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00:02:49.220 your name age location and occupation go ahead my name is mj i'm 22 years old um i am a recent

00:03:10.240 ucsb graduate and i studied film and media and religious studies um yeah currently unemployed but

00:03:18.820 looking for work film media and what and religious studies religious studies is that a minor or major

00:03:25.680 no it was a double major double major so film and media and then the religious studies that's the

00:03:30.680 those are the two majors okay and you said you're from where again i'm from palm springs originally palm

00:03:36.640 springs god what about you um my name is selena i'm 19 i'm from la and my occupation is porn star

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00:03:50.400 okay all right hi my name is claudia i go by cc i'm 20 years old and my occupation is i'm a pharmacy tech

00:04:00.900 what happened to your friend who was uh supposed to be here with you my roommate um she was supposed

00:04:05.900 to come but it was maybe it was just a too too much of a fun night last night she couldn't wake up

00:04:11.500 now she told me she had a family emergency she did have a family emergency because she's in santa cruz

00:04:17.240 so she's what she's in santa cruz she's in santa cruz with her family but she said she had to fly

00:04:24.780 that's why she flies to santa cruz she flew to santa like today

00:04:28.240 i don't believe it but okay all right what about you hi i'm jesse taylor i am from clearwater florida

00:04:37.240 born and raised and i live out in los angeles um i own property um i manage my property i was fortunate

00:04:44.740 enough to buy my house in cash so i kind of do that and then i do music with my boyfriend

00:04:50.400 he's a um he's a gold record producer and then um i sing um i've been an influencer since

00:04:59.860 the end of 2016 um i was on a tv show and um i was part of the original streaming group with

00:05:09.620 ice poseidon called the cx network and i was one of the original members and i also was the number one

00:05:16.740 creator on tiktok for comedy um at the end of 2021 beginning of 2020 um throughout 2022

00:05:23.900 and um i have an only fans but yeah and i'm also a mother and i'm getting married

00:05:30.080 that was quite possibly the longest introduction ever made well i need to like explain myself i guess

00:05:37.000 it was thorough yeah largest comedy channel on tiktok well yeah throughout 2022 i did public pranks and um

00:05:44.700 public questions so yeah but i gave that up because i ended up getting a boyfriend were you running

00:05:50.460 that with somebody else no just like myself i had like a manager at the time but i like gave that up

00:05:56.540 i still do music but um to like be with my boyfriend and kind of like put social media on hold and just

00:06:04.240 kind of like start a family age oh um 26 all right my name is madison i'm 19 i'm currently working at

00:06:16.500 the whatever podcast and i'm also a student at santa barbara city college um studying business and

00:06:23.840 communication all right what about you my name is ali i'm 18 um i'm from new york and i am a student at

00:06:32.660 uc santa barbara all right welcome hello my name is jolie elena i am 19 years old um i just graduated

00:06:42.800 from csun with my bachelor's in criminology and justice studies i have an associate and i also got

00:06:49.180 my associate simultaneously in general education for social sciences i do sorry i do content post content

00:06:59.980 on tiktok and instagram reels at jolie elena j-o-l-i-e-l-e-n-a and my youtube channel

00:07:08.440 with the same name

00:07:10.120 what kind of content um i it's kind of random but i post like kind of like opinionated stuff and

00:07:20.540 sometimes it's fun stuff but opinions uh conspiracy i did like a video on youtube about

00:07:25.280 a conspiracy i researched so yeah okay

00:07:30.060 andrew what about you yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's the

00:07:36.240 fastest growing youtube debate channel to my knowledge anywhere um political satirist and

00:07:41.900 political analyst and uh i like to engage in debates now and again all right welcome everybody

00:07:48.120 and uh very good to have andrew back in the studio uh me and andrew actually have a uh big announcement

00:07:54.700 guys so uh we've been working on this for uh six months now me and andrew we are launching a debate

00:08:02.900 course a debate program as you guys know we both get involved in uh various kinds of uh debates on

00:08:10.160 the show andrew has his own channel where he uh recently debated uh with destiny and had a

00:08:16.300 fantastic performance but we're launching a program it's called debate university you can

00:08:21.460 find it at debate university.com have we made the determination as to

00:08:25.840 the program is verbal combat yeah verbal combat yep but we also are are we do we have two names for

00:08:34.820 it well debate university is the flagship that all the content will go under yes so the main course

00:08:42.080 that's on it right now is called verbal combat yes and uh you can find it in debate debate university.com

00:08:47.620 we're going to pull that up in just a sec guys we have uh 80 can you pull that up nick the website

00:08:51.740 first uh hide that please so we have 80 plus modules uh if you can maybe put us on the other side

00:08:59.140 yeah uh there's 80 plus modules six hours of video and uh we've been working tirelessly to uh

00:09:07.640 get this launched we uh it's been uh many months in the making so if you guys want check it out

00:09:14.080 debate university.com there's the course offering and then we also have a what's going to be a private

00:09:21.800 membership group that and me and andrew are going to be doing monthly q a sessions on there uh and it's

00:09:27.840 going to be private members only group and um we also have a trailer that we want to play really

00:09:33.200 quick nick if you can get that going and um yeah go ahead the trailer please you can uh why don't you

00:09:44.400 i think hide us just hide us yeah all right good your job is not to show mercy your job is not to

00:09:55.580 back off and allow them to maintain their false ideas it's not your job it is nebulous i understand

00:10:02.860 it's nebulous but i'm also not the one who's making the affirmative claim you are so let's start

00:10:09.160 with some dirty tricks some dirty tricks some kind of hitting below the belt god damn it you're still

00:10:16.800 whining stop whining that is a product i don't smack you honestly does your dad say thank you for

00:10:23.240 prostituting yourself so i have air conditioning well now as we hang on again let me finish my

00:10:28.160 turn go ahead so as we dive into this though by the way you say that you can't make a deterministic

00:10:33.840 statement which is a deterministic statement how again how dumb are you vosh debate is a weapon

00:10:41.540 especially in the 21st century when living in the information age worry about this debate is over

00:10:46.640 goodbye goodbye goodbye jackass i'm not interested in your stupid prattle answer my question that makes

00:10:53.460 no sense that's the stupidest thing i've heard out of you tonight why would you do anything if you

00:10:59.040 didn't care and pull up the site again nick uh debate university.com guys and by the way we're gonna

00:11:09.380 you know there's gonna be uh what's that term from video games dlc there'll be dlc you know so

00:11:15.440 uh we we might be we'll be adding modules as uh uh as the months progress so uh be sure to check it

00:11:23.440 out debate university.com anyways we'll get right into the show we're gonna go around the table once

00:11:28.880 more well hang on let me oh did you want more sorry i didn't mean let me say a couple okay go ahead

00:11:32.640 let me say a couple things so seven and seven out of ten messages that i get are from people who

00:11:38.540 want to know how to have better rhetorical skills and how to debate better that's i mean far more

00:11:43.520 than half of people who contact me that's what they're contacting me for so that's the entire

00:11:48.600 reason that we did the project so i have a place to refer people to for just that thing so go check it

00:11:54.960 out tons of you who are watching right now have probably dm me asking for just this and here it is

00:12:01.000 it's everything that you wanted everything cool so we're gonna go around the table once more what

00:12:08.740 is everybody's current relationship status are you single talking stage situationship friends with

00:12:15.520 benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be if you're single how long

00:12:20.800 have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead i am

00:12:25.760 currently single um and i've actually never been in a relationship um so yeah um have you ever never

00:12:36.940 had a boyfriend no not like a committed boyfriend no not a committed boyfriend so you've had a boyfriend

00:12:43.820 but he cheated on you no it's you know um i've been in relationships with people for long periods of

00:12:51.720 time and i've been asked to be you know people's girlfriends but i've never been someone's girlfriend

00:12:57.800 there was never that title on it what's the you said you've been in relationships what's the longest

00:13:02.900 relationship you've been in

00:13:04.480 probably like eight months and is that the guy who asked you to be his uh girlfriend yes

00:13:14.400 and you said no yeah why is that because it isn't it wasn't what i wanted at the time why did you

00:13:23.580 date him for eight months then um probably because of uh

00:13:29.740 things i hadn't resolved within myself at the time opinionated bro donated 69 dollars

00:13:38.500 andrew i like you but you rarely portray christian morals on here anymore plus lately misogyny

00:13:43.840 slash anger are hurting your credibility however you did hilariously own west watson giving me the

00:13:49.500 best laugh all year you want to respond to that andrew fuck you all right there you go thank you

00:13:57.200 opinionated bro all right uh you said you were working through some issues

00:14:03.560 i just kind of had realizations about what i what was truly healthy and what was not and so i decided

00:14:12.160 to not pursue anything further and like looking back i do think that things could have played out

00:14:18.300 differently but that just wasn't the case so but now i'm single how long have you been single

00:14:23.660 um i don't really know i i haven't been keeping keeping track was there um are you currently

00:14:33.520 talking to a guy um like i talk to guys and like go on dates but nothing like serious or um

00:14:43.040 do you have a roster right now i wouldn't say a roster no i wouldn't call that a roster what would

00:14:51.660 you say it is um i have certain i feel special a special type of connection to certain people in my

00:15:00.560 life and i have experiences with people but i wouldn't say that's necessarily a roster i don't

00:15:07.340 have like a list of names that i'm going through and like hitting up when you know i want something

00:15:14.380 from people you said you have special connections with people yeah how many special connections do you

00:15:20.860 have currently um maybe like it's really hard to actually answer that question because you know

00:15:34.420 people come and go and i just graduated so people have like come into my life and left my life

00:15:39.840 uh so i couldn't really give you a solid number on that yeah i'll try to make it a little easier so

00:15:46.540 um you said you just graduated and then maybe other people are back home during the summertime

00:15:52.120 uh if we just rewind four months ago so that brings us to april let's say april prior to ucsb letting

00:16:02.080 out how many special connections did you have then i was exclusive with one person was that the

00:16:07.840 eight month guy no okay how long were you exclusive with the guy back in april four months four months

00:16:14.920 when did that end in may in april okay let me fast forward one month so let's go to may um

00:16:22.060 how many special connections did you have then i wasn't counting but like special connections isn't

00:16:30.380 i just don't define it in like um in in uh

00:16:37.440 love is complicated for me man i don't want to answer that question

00:16:42.860 well yeah okay i'm really confused as to what a special connection is

00:16:48.500 right i don't mind that you're confused i don't think that's the question i want to answer

00:16:55.040 well it's kind of like that's the purpose of the show is to talk about people's actually no you're

00:17:02.460 right you're right relationship situations um are you currently like dating a couple people right now

00:17:08.340 no do you have a special connection with anybody right now

00:17:14.980 yes okay so do you take issue we're not dating well so you take issue with the term dating

00:17:23.540 to you dating would would that imply what i think it's because actually people who i develop a

00:17:32.080 relationship with tend to be my friends first for a long time so that's why it kind of complicates it

00:17:36.640 because even if something happens between us or we have a romantic connection they are still my

00:17:42.820 friend first at least in my the way that i my perspective on it um i prioritize our friendship

00:17:51.240 before anything else so it doesn't feel like it's a roster necessarily because it's not i don't view

00:17:57.120 them as you know i have a question for you brixton underscore is underscore daddy donated sixty nine

00:18:04.500 dollars brixton your dumper be looking dumpy tonight tell the narcissistic strumpets to be

00:18:10.360 considerate of the live viewers andrew you making destiny squirm like a 300 foreign church was the

00:18:16.260 highlight of the week all right for me too my dumper be looking dumpy tonight thank you appreciate that

00:18:22.460 that's no just i know paladins donated 69 sorry a little bit behind but low at how quickly my

00:18:32.120 roommate had a late night turned into family emergency i noticed that keep lying for one

00:18:36.480 another that's why i can't trust any woman ever i wasn't lying i was not lying you should honestly i

00:18:43.760 unless she like were to send me like a flight itinerary i just refuse to believe people when

00:18:50.500 they make up these lies about no because she used to play in soccer and now she lives out here in

00:18:54.840 downey with me and her family's all in santa cruz i don't believe yeah but she said she had a flight i

00:19:01.080 just unless she shows me like a ticket so like a screenshot well i mean i don't really care she's not

00:19:09.200 here but yeah i just it's irrelevant people just lie all the time to get out of things so i mean yeah

00:19:14.280 so i need to fix some there's some funky things going on over there on can you put it on split

00:19:21.840 really quick no that was weird how it's getting like cut off i'm not sure okay um so never had a

00:19:32.500 boyfriend oh go ahead yeah so i wanted to ask you um from your perspective what is a girlfriend

00:19:38.480 or a boyfriend i think that's someone who you have consciously chosen to pursue kind of a

00:19:49.720 partnership with where there's a shared goal and you guys are moving towards that shared goal together

00:19:56.080 um and i think a label is involved where a conversation is had and that's decided that

00:20:02.660 you guys are gonna be going on a journey together whether you know a journey forever yeah like a

00:20:08.460 journey together you know um it's all about the journey honestly yeah it is so how would you

00:20:15.880 define a special connection i think it's but there's certain people and i know not everyone believes in

00:20:23.180 this but there's certain people that you meet who i like to the way i view it is that people act as

00:20:32.040 either a door a mirror or a window kind of and there's people that you meet who will either reflect

00:20:39.340 yourself back to you um open a door for you and show you how a different way that life could be

00:20:48.160 or maybe give you a glimpse of something that you want but isn't necessarily in your reach just yet

00:20:54.780 and i think that there's been certain men in my life who i've met who have brought out the parts of me

00:21:04.200 that have questions that needs answering and that relationship that i the emotions that i feel

00:21:10.940 through a relationship like that often become romantic and that's when a connection for me becomes

00:21:16.680 special sounds almost like um like um esoteric sex magic right slightly sure yeah

00:21:25.340 um so you have a so you have friends and they teach you stuff and then you end up in a romantic

00:21:34.720 relationship with them you can yeah but i think that mature communication is really important when it

00:21:41.920 comes to those situations because you can actually end up complicating your life quite a bit um when

00:21:48.460 you don't have open communication with people who you love um what do those men teach you

00:21:53.900 i think more recently they've taught me about

00:22:03.160 like specifically this one person that i have in mind has taught me the difference between

00:22:09.880 like i feel like i'm constantly trying to get closer to the truth whatever that may be

00:22:16.100 and i've realized that there is a really big difference between perception and perspective

00:22:22.300 and how we lack understanding amongst each other because we fail to see the differences

00:22:29.520 in our perspectives because of our own perception which is built on

00:22:34.580 our own personal life experiences and all these labels that we give ourselves that form our identities

00:22:41.320 and um it's they they teach me about who i the woman i want to be and also maybe where i'm failing

00:22:50.660 to kind of step up to the plate failing to take on responsibility out of fear maybe running away from

00:22:58.320 myself in certain ways where actually certain people will highlight that i'm strong enough and brave enough

00:23:05.080 to confront those dark sides of myself and the way i view my relationships is in a very spiritual way

00:23:13.180 so i that that's what i grow to appreciate and maybe that's never led to a relationship for me

00:23:20.320 but it's because it really just wasn't you know i do believe in divine timing and it wasn't it wasn't right

00:23:29.160 you know so it just hadn't fit

00:23:31.700 um so are you currently seeing somebody no currently i am not

00:23:42.200 special connections though you said you've you currently have multiple special connections

00:23:49.780 yeah but i'm trying to word this in such a way because you didn't you didn't like the dating

00:23:55.000 divinely inspired special connections

00:23:56.960 yeah so you've just been celibate for four months

00:24:04.000 um well i mean that wouldn't be a very special connection now would it

00:24:09.900 um no i haven't been celibate but

00:24:17.400 so when i use the word dating or date that sort of in cap that can encapsulate everything from

00:24:28.420 a one night stand to like super serious boyfriend and girlfriend just as an umbrella term

00:24:35.600 so i know it sounded like you had a different definition of because i asked you if you're

00:24:41.020 dating anybody right or if you've dated these people yeah so that's why we're trying to figure

00:24:45.400 out the distinction when you say special connection that's why i'm asking what would the difference

00:24:49.380 between that and dating be kind of under your worldview you know what i mean yeah it's people that i

00:24:55.380 encounter on a day-to-day that i've built a relationship with a friendship with and we hang out do

00:25:02.060 certain things together um like as friends but then maybe suddenly there's a kind of shift in in

00:25:10.200 uh the way that we feel about each other but i'm not necessarily hooking up with those people that's

00:25:16.620 why i don't consider it to be dating them like it it doesn't necessarily

00:25:22.200 have to encompass all the things that you might consider when you that imply that that implies

00:25:29.760 so i see i understand you don't like labels hey i get that right but the way that human beings

00:25:36.920 associate things is through labeling them right that's how we have a frame of reference to point

00:25:41.560 at something so if you had to take this idea of special connection and put a label on it which

00:25:49.020 commonly would be understood what would it be closest to

00:25:51.840 just friends that i'm attracted to kind of like friends with benefits no no no it's i i prefer not

00:26:06.400 to define it honestly but if but if you could put a label on it that people would understand best

00:26:15.180 like if you're going to if you're going to describe a concept to somebody usually use concepts which

00:26:22.100 are different but they're close that way we can make it an association right that way we can figure

00:26:27.300 out what it's close to what it's like a crush a crush okay

00:26:33.840 isn't a crush typically one directional it could be a reciprocated crush

00:26:43.180 well okay crush in my essentially means you like somebody yeah you're attracted to them yeah

00:26:52.220 right but that doesn't really explain the actual dynamic that is occurring like the between the two

00:27:01.460 people right no and sometimes it can be a like unrequited kind of attraction and then other times

00:27:10.880 um it could be that for me too so it just depends on the person and the circumstance

00:27:20.700 okay uh so you said you've been single for four months

00:27:25.560 you said in in april you ended things with a guy you were seeing you were seeing him for four months

00:27:33.480 is that correct okay was it monogamous okay the eight month relationship was that monogamous

00:27:40.400 okay um are all are you always monogamous

00:27:46.880 if it's serious yeah gauge underscore kitty donated 69 dollars it's a special connection because it's a

00:27:58.440 journey that ends with a crush it's all about the journey baby it's all about the journey uh so

00:28:04.820 fuck yeah you said you are monogamous if it's serious but you've never had a boyfriend

00:28:11.300 for underscore the underscore patriarchy donated 69 dollars sounds like she has a lot of male

00:28:24.240 friends who turn into carnal knowledge no man in her journey will pursue a relationship well that's

00:28:30.080 actually not true because i'll fix that i'll get up and fix that um you can't split it right now i don't

00:28:36.700 know what's going on um she said that she was dating a guy and he asked for a relationship and she

00:28:42.460 turned it down

00:28:43.020 will a donated 69 dollars orders from the patriarchy inquisition brian you are sitting next to the

00:28:50.320 grand inquisitor you are ordered to turn over the autographed blue white cup with certificate of

00:28:55.980 authenticity immediately we'll get him one we'll get him one we'll get him the certificate too

00:29:01.180 thank you mr belay appreciate it thank you thank you mr belay thank you mr belay appreciate it man um

00:29:07.100 okay so have you ever dated curtis underscore leon underscore coordinated 69 yeah thank you curtis

00:29:20.200 thank you let me translate for her so everyone can understand the window she is talking about is a web

00:29:26.560 browser and her special connection is six dollars and 99 cents a month i'm sure she is talking to them

00:29:33.340 when they simp i don't you don't have an of no yeah she doesn't have an of but thank you curtis

00:29:41.720 that's the girl next to her um uh so um have you ever okay have you ever dated multiple people at the

00:29:49.760 same time yeah okay what's like the most amount that you've dated at the same time like three four

00:29:57.200 15 maronite catholic aussie donated 69 why are you complicating something that doesn't need to be

00:30:05.800 complicated wtf are you hiding or preventing yourself from being labeled as everyone can see right through

00:30:13.260 your prattle okay so this as as not maybe perhaps refined right this is a good point which is being

00:30:21.980 made which is usually if i'm trying to explain a concept to somebody and they're just kind of like

00:30:27.980 not getting the concept maybe it's a personalized concept i try to use things that they can closely

00:30:33.680 associate with something else that way i can explain to them what's in my head right because by that's

00:30:39.500 where you're trying to draw a picture inside somebody's head so they can understand what you're

00:30:42.880 talking about but it does seem like you're being a little bit evasive on kind of letting us know what

00:30:48.440 you mean here by special connection right right i think the reason why i'm quote-unquote complicating

00:30:56.320 it it's not intentional i think it's actually because it's quite complicated for me in my head

00:31:01.300 um so if you're going to explain the if you were going to explain it to a 10 year old how would you

00:31:08.560 explain it to a 10 year old we're gonna uh we're gonna boost the tts by the way guys so um tts is now uh 200

00:31:15.700 go ahead um explain it to us like we're five unfortunately i do not have the words to

00:31:24.860 articulate myself i actually it's i i'm uh i guess the yeah no i i don't have the words to

00:31:37.580 explain myself i'm sorry about that okay here well we're gonna get everybody's relationship status we

00:31:43.680 will come back to it a little bit but what about you um special connections only first let's start

00:31:49.160 with those no no no special connections wait can i um really quick can i have you guys all three of

00:31:56.740 you scoot this way just a bit and scoot your mics along with you or just uh if all three of you can

00:32:04.780 just sorry guys we need to make a couple adjustments here uh and scoot your mic with you

00:32:09.280 sorry to interrupt just trying to and you guys remember who to blame right yes okay

00:32:16.300 okay go ahead with your relationship status um i am single i'm not talking to anyone i kind of

00:32:26.340 just focus on myself right now okay and uh how long you've been single um about like over a year now

00:32:36.020 i've only had one boyfriend and it was for like a month um and that was you guys knew each other

00:32:42.780 total for one month or how long had you known each other prior to becoming um honestly like it was

00:32:50.720 probably just for one month like it was for like a summer so like i met him in the summer and then we

00:32:55.920 were dating for a month and then um i just i don't know he just wasn't the person for me and i didn't

00:33:03.320 want to be with him anymore so i just broke up so longest relationship one month yeah okay longest

00:33:09.600 anything one month for that includes friends with benefits situationship casual hookup one month yeah

00:33:16.880 okay and you also but you do adult content correct yeah i do mainstream porn only fans and camming

00:33:24.500 and uh is it difficult for you uh to date at all because of that or absolutely it is yeah do you date

00:33:31.980 people in the industry or no um i haven't yet but a lot of people in my industry do because it's easier

00:33:39.620 like just to like understand each other and um it just makes more sense that way okay all right are

00:33:48.940 you desirous of uh like a relationship are you kind of fine maybe just keeping things casual or short

00:33:55.040 term or honestly i don't want any kind of relationship i don't want any hookup because i'm just like

00:34:01.880 at a point where i did have a lot of hookups and like situationships and stuff in the past and it

00:34:08.400 just didn't do anything for me like mentally that was positive i mean it was a learning experience for

00:34:14.980 me but now i understand like what i like in a person what is worth my time to pursue and like

00:34:21.980 right now i kind of just want to focus on my work and like myself sure okay how old did you say you

00:34:28.420 i'm 19 how didn't you just like graduate high school at 18 um yeah i graduated about two months

00:34:38.060 ago from high school yeah so how did we go on your journey from graduating high school to hardcore

00:34:47.080 porn star um well when i turned 18 i had made an only fans because i don't know like i feel like in

00:34:54.920 20 i made one like 2023 it was just like it's very big on the internet now and so i kind of just

00:35:03.020 wanted to try it and so i got into that it didn't really go anywhere um and then last summer um i

00:35:09.420 actually couldn't get a normal job like actually like i applied to so many places like at least 30

00:35:14.540 places and i really wanted to you know just have a job you know and so i started doing camming on

00:35:22.000 chatterbait um and then i realized like you know it's cool to have like a fan base it's cool to get

00:35:28.660 income that way where i can just do it from home it's convenient um later on i decided to do

00:35:35.920 mainstream porn because my fans were requesting it they really wanted to see it so i started that

00:35:42.440 in like late december early january and i've been doing that um ever since so it was easy money

00:35:48.440 basically i definitely wouldn't say it's easy money but i definitely thought that before i got

00:35:55.320 into it and now that i'm into it i just feel the need to like keep pursuing it so that i can i don't

00:36:04.060 know grow my audience and grow my income because like i don't know but it's definitely not easy money

00:36:11.780 i'll say that i mean you're carving out a decent living doing that um right now yes i am

00:36:18.700 how much does uh how much does somebody who's engaged in that at 19 make um for me it changes

00:36:28.180 monthly because i have all these streams of income but um it just depends how persistent i am like on

00:36:35.980 average on average monthly yeah um the most i made was like maybe like close to 10 000 a month

00:36:46.960 but that's not every month like sometimes it'll be 4 000 but probably i mean it might have been

00:36:52.680 between 10 to 15 000 a month like if the work is good but sometimes the work isn't good and i only make

00:36:58.580 three to four thousand you know what i mean but it changes per month is it worth it for me um i think

00:37:06.540 it is because i don't know like i made the decision to do this job and so i feel like it's worth it for

00:37:14.960 me ten thousand dollars a month isn't that much money right oh yeah completely like some people like

00:37:20.780 they make 500 000 a month or a million a month yeah but like this field it's like so competitive

00:37:26.340 with the internet now that i just feel the need to like compete so even if i'm not the best even if

00:37:32.480 i'm not like the top person i just feel the need to continue because i am competitive and i want to

00:37:39.560 just like keep pursuing it until i feel like i don't want to do it anymore you know you know i'm young

00:37:45.520 you know sorry um i was gonna ask what your goals are like within the industry um right now my goals

00:37:52.720 with the in like just like online or like with porn like yeah um for me it's kind of just like

00:38:00.900 i really want to be like contracted to a brand because that means a lot for like you know branding and

00:38:09.780 like you get a certain like you get a guaranteed amount of money per month but other than that i'm

00:38:15.160 just working on growing my audiences on all of my platforms because that's what matters the most you

00:38:20.860 know when i don't have the mainstream porn income i have my only fans that i could work on or my

00:38:26.360 camming i could work on um so yeah can you worry about long-term consequences i'm not worried about

00:38:34.260 the long-term consequences only because of how many people are in adult content let's say in 20 years

00:38:40.920 like usually when people bring up consequences they usually bring up things like having children or

00:38:46.660 going into a different field for me personally i don't see myself doing a job where i would be

00:38:53.960 judged for that um and as far as kids or anything in the future like i use a stage name like i mean i'm

00:39:01.940 not planning to have kids for a while so it would just not really matter at that point there's so many

00:39:07.540 people in the industry now okay can i add to that i find it very interesting like you sharing your story

00:39:15.540 because people like me have like never like met really a porn star and like heard their stories

00:39:22.660 like that so i think it's very interesting just to hear like different perspectives especially people

00:39:28.540 that are not really like exposed to like like never really met like you know people like that

00:39:34.500 it's definitely very interesting hold on aren't you involved don't you do oh i mean i have only fans

00:39:40.560 but i'm not like porn no it it's like playboy i feel like but you you did an interview with adam 22

00:39:46.800 yeah but playboy is porn well no i know i did adam 22 but i'm saying like he's a pornographer no i'm

00:39:52.780 saying like woman perspective i've never met like woman perspective how long have you lived in la for

00:39:58.260 well i just moved here from nashville so and then i'm from clearwater so i mean i know adam for a long

00:40:06.280 time but i just i don't know it's like interesting hearing somebody all right you don't really know

00:40:11.380 that well but um have you ever had a uh roster uh i mean kind of but probably like last year

00:40:20.440 okay not really since then how big was it um probably like two to three people honestly okay

00:40:28.560 keep it here nick maddie fix that please this would be a great opportunity to say that me and

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00:41:00.520 or not to fire maddie because that was definitely your fault all maddie's fault all maddie's fault

00:41:04.600 andrew what's what am i doing wrong today i i just want to blame you everything is my fault

00:41:10.140 i feel like we need a bag man around here somebody to blame everything on yeah she's the fall guy

00:41:16.760 yeah all right relationship status um i'm single i'm single but like i like somebody okay uh how long

00:41:26.420 have you uh been liking somebody a week okay long time yeah longest longest relationship two years two

00:41:35.320 and a half uh before you started liking this guy how long had you been single for uh i've been single

00:41:42.400 since february 17 2023 so like a year and a half yeah all right and this is the first guy who's ever

00:41:53.060 come into the picture since then no there's been other guys yeah there's been one like one that was

00:41:58.040 like ah you know like i really did like him but he really broke my heart so i don't like to talk

00:42:02.080 about him but i'm gonna talk about him uh so well how long were you seeing the guy who broke your

00:42:06.640 heart for six months six months yeah like we met each other's family when did that end january

00:42:13.120 you said you were single for one but he wasn't but he never asked me to be his girlfriend so like

00:42:17.840 she said a special connection this is why when a girl says she's single she's fucking at least three

00:42:22.860 dudes no yeah for sure a girl who says there's a girl always has a dude in the picture she said no

00:42:29.940 yeah for sure for sure so she agrees but so like i wasn't with him for six months and didn't do

00:42:35.420 anything wait what like i wasn't just with him for six months and i didn't like you know fuck

00:42:40.640 obviously fucked i'm not gonna go six yeah but like you weren't seeing like you're not being blunt with

00:42:48.060 us i'm not being blunt no just because i mean you said you were single uh you've been single for 1.5

00:42:57.020 years but you dated a guy for six months uh a little more recently than that so that's just my

00:43:02.060 there's that's what's because the thing is is that i lived with my two two year like the two

00:43:06.040 year relationship when i lived with him the recent one i didn't live with him and he was never official

00:43:10.340 it was more kind of like we were like you know messing around we met each other's family but never

00:43:14.480 did he go out of his way and be like hey be my girlfriend it was a special connection yeah special

00:43:18.520 connection special connection wait as part of your journey he he met your parents but you don't

00:43:23.780 const that doesn't constitute as no not really because my relationship with my parents isn't like i don't

00:43:30.200 even have a relationship with them so it was kind of like oh you have to do that because you have to

00:43:33.900 oh okay all right wait what yeah like i i made him meet my parents because i was living with them

00:43:40.040 at the time but now i don't so if if i would have if he were to come back into my life now it would

00:43:44.660 be great i mean i don't want him to though wait that definitely sounds like you do no i don't i don't

00:43:51.940 i i hundred percent sounds like you do i don't wait you said it would be it would be great no like

00:44:00.220 if so he left me because of my family problems so like now if he were to come back into my life it

00:44:04.720 would be like better it would be different you know but you don't but i don't want him back in my

00:44:09.460 life because he left me because he was a weak person and couldn't stand like hey you have family

00:44:12.820 problems i'll help you through it oh okay hang on hang on so he's not here so i'm gonna devil's

00:44:17.760 advocate on his behalf okay what did he do that was so terrible he didn't do nothing terrible he

00:44:23.700 was a really good person but he left me because how is he white calling him weak because he's weak

00:44:29.520 he left me because what do you mean he's weak he just said he was a great person no he was a good

00:44:33.360 person but he left me i have a question in each instance where a woman breaks up with a man

00:44:39.620 is that evidence of her being weak or is it no no actually so if a guy breaks up the girl it's

00:44:46.240 because he's weak but if a guy if a girl breaks up with a guy it's because she's strong no no no

00:44:52.260 i think it's neither it's not case by case basis that's fair uh okay hold on privacy mental health

00:45:00.580 substance abuse stis physical safety legal issues financial instability exploitation only some of the

00:45:06.380 consequences of doing corn yo special connector thank you for the tts and for it didn't trigger just

00:45:12.200 because uh the ai voice didn't trigger because probably you said corn so thank you man though

00:45:18.000 thank you for the tts um go ahead okay so back to what you were saying about um how it's weak if a

00:45:24.700 girl breaks up or whatever you said if a guy wakes up he so he left you because you were

00:45:29.180 sounded like you're going through like a really crazy time yes and he didn't want to deal with it

00:45:33.980 what was this crazy time you were going through um basically like my parents they live together but

00:45:39.460 they're not together but they're only together for the kids um and just a lot of like you know

00:45:44.920 just crazy stuff in my house you know which he was having to deal with yes when he when he would

00:45:49.820 come over and like we would just be in my room but you would still hear everything and he didn't want

00:45:53.620 to deal with it anymore no which i like i understand like i know i say weak but at the same time i

00:45:58.000 understand which is why i say he's not a bad person yeah because he didn't want to deal with a bunch

00:46:02.940 of bullshit exactly that's why that seems fair okay but he's an only child coming from an only

00:46:07.680 like you know he's only child so he doesn't know what it like the struggles are of being in a

00:46:11.540 household of eight people well why does he why does he need to that's why he doesn't need to

00:46:15.820 because he's weak like i don't want to deal with any of this bullshit okay and that's him he's weak

00:46:20.020 then how's that weak because he is that's just my opinion because if he really loved her you would

00:46:24.840 really no because no because he the thing is is that he broke up with me january 6th we spent

00:46:31.340 christmas together like nothing happened he literally bring the insurrection into this

00:46:35.040 yeah keep going keep going alleged that has not been demonstrated but anyway no he basically made

00:46:45.400 me base like a thousand dollars on christmas and broke up with me right after so he made me get

00:46:48.900 everything he wanted for christmas and then broke up wait he like made you what do you mean like he

00:46:54.860 was like oh i want this dude's a legend i would sue him wait sue him it builds character i would

00:47:03.400 like just sue him just to sue him what do you mean emotional distress wait hold on let's i'm being

00:47:11.080 funny but like i would just do it just for like revenge if someone because it sounds like he

00:47:16.360 deserves the one did that to me with all the shit but so she she okay you bought him presents yeah i got

00:47:24.200 him essentials outfits ps5 ps5 controller for christmas and then in a couple like two weeks

00:47:30.480 later he broke up with you yes january 6th we were supposed to go on a sushi date but hold on the ps5

00:47:35.800 yeah he kept everything but hold on and the shoes so going to this suing thing gotta keep why i'm just

00:47:42.140 curious why would you sue a guy for breaking up with you no like i'm not that i can't say that to

00:47:49.140 like i i don't even know what it's like to be in that position so like i don't know like that's

00:47:55.220 beyond to be in what position spend a bunch of money on a guy then you mean he breaks up you mean

00:48:01.060 what men do to women all the time not stop maybe i maybe i'm just like in a good relationship i don't

00:48:08.260 know i can't even picture that but anybody at any time can choose to exit a relationship

00:48:14.420 exactly even even after they've they've received some sort of hey yeah what's he gonna do if you're

00:48:20.040 like well okay baby i know that this sucks but you did buy me a ps5 right like that's what it was

00:48:25.600 a gift it was a gift anything before that there's no compensation the thing is i'm not i never got

00:48:31.040 no hard feelings under what legal theory hold on under what legal theory like what claim would you

00:48:35.960 bring like some bullshit claim probably what would be just paper terrorism basically yes yes

00:48:42.780 basically i'm very sue happy you're sue happy i'm very sue happy you've like sued people before

00:48:50.580 yeah for for what well i can't legally talk about everything that happened because i signed an nda but

00:48:59.120 um that's how i bought my house basically secure that peanut what's your law fair no it was um i almost

00:49:06.040 got killed while getting arrested oh so you sued the police department no no i sued a company um there

00:49:12.180 was a company renting out stolen vehicles to customers and um i actually was visiting los

00:49:17.640 angeles i can't disclose like the company no i understand and um yeah so i got arrested by the

00:49:24.660 police and they pulled me over they pulled a gun on me they beat the crap out of me it was two men

00:49:29.000 and they threw me in jail and i got out and um i saw like an ad on instagram and it was like are you

00:49:36.280 a victim of this clicked it and um it's really a class action lawsuit yeah well basically what

00:49:42.780 happened with other people in the lawsuit um they didn't read the contract in the lawsuit and a lot

00:49:49.120 of them were like sitting in jail for like up to a year having babies in jail um like a lot of bad

00:49:54.580 things and they got a settlement money but because they didn't read what the lawyer put and they didn't

00:50:00.000 have a team of lawyers to get that money um they got all of the money taken from them

00:50:05.100 that the victims yeah but i was the only one that got my money because i had lawyers yeah but i could

00:50:12.940 that's all i can say that sounds like a way different situation than you bought me a ps5 though

00:50:18.200 slightly different like that that sounds like a legitimate lawsuit yeah i mean not a hey i just

00:50:28.460 bought you all this stuff for christmas and now you're leaving me so i'm gonna go get a lawyer

00:50:32.260 i don't know i feel like i would do that like but i'm not in really i'm just really petty you got

00:50:38.320 into the mic really yeah i'm very good well that's really petty yeah yeah thank god that's never

00:50:44.580 happened to me i feel bad for you i'm sorry so if a guy breaks breaks up with a girl like to be petty

00:50:50.320 you would file a frivolous lawsuit and just depending on the situation what i don't know i have no idea i'm

00:50:57.960 not in my personal life and when it happened i would because i'm sure there's there's situations

00:51:02.340 that do qualify for i mean well i want you to listen to this out loud you're not going to leave

00:51:08.080 me or i'll sue you does that sound like if the girl spent a lot of money on the guy like if she's

00:51:15.160 spending like thousands of dollars that's her choice like that is her choice yeah like that's crazy

00:51:20.200 that's my fault yeah i'm gonna stick beside it oh also i got my card keyed by a guy i was talking

00:51:26.920 to oh no okay i think you can do for that damn yeah you can why it's because i was outside when i

00:51:33.040 shouldn't have been outside so you didn't listen to him i don't he's not my boyfriend i should not

00:51:37.200 be listening to him so what he didn't want you to like go out or something basically yeah you went

00:51:40.640 out so then he keyed your car yeah oh i'm just still trying to figure out under what legal

00:51:47.000 principle you would who are all these fucking people no if a girl spent hypothetically if you

00:51:54.600 know a girl spent a lot of money on a guy i'm talking about thousands of dollars let's say it's

00:51:59.580 50 000 50 000 i mean billy ray on a tuesday is she spends 50 grand and on wednesday he wakes up and he

00:52:06.360 goes get the fuck out i don't want to be with you anymore like what would what would actually be

00:52:11.840 the problem with that there's situations like that like billy ray saris he's suing his wife

00:52:16.580 because uh she spent like 70 000 on the credit card that he authorized to give her and now he's

00:52:21.560 well hold on that's a totally different situation first off there's probably an entire divorce

00:52:28.520 proceeding that's going on that's probably a component of their divorce proceeding yeah uh

00:52:34.260 in this case there's no legal relationship between the parties if you're just boyfriend

00:52:40.760 girlfriend assuming you're in a state where there's not common law marriage in which this

00:52:45.240 doesn't apply in this scenario how long were you dating the guy um which one the guy who dumped

00:52:51.760 you after you bought him the six months okay so but in so in your view if a girl's been dating a guy

00:52:57.500 for six months and she buys him things they're not married you think that a legal claim can be

00:53:04.540 brought i have no idea i'm not in that situation right but so you would do a frivolous i would do it

00:53:11.600 just to do it just to be like you you would intentionally bring a frivolous lawsuit and

00:53:17.720 just waste hypothetically yes so just a vexatious lawsuit essentially if i spent a lot of money

00:53:24.960 hypothetically yes right but if you have this like pure vindictiveness wouldn't you spend more money

00:53:29.220 doing the lawsuit no but that's not the point she's saying she's saying that she's been she's a

00:53:33.560 vindictive person right yeah that's what she said yeah so she's like i know it's petty and vindictive

00:53:39.740 but i'm gonna do it anyway yeah basically but i'm not in that situation none of that what do you think

00:53:45.980 if we just reverse the genders though so if it was a man who bought a girl a bunch of gifts

00:53:50.080 she was no longer happy in the relationship no longer satisfied two weeks later after he bought her a

00:53:55.540 nice i don't know uh necklace or whatever it is you know whatever thousand bucks two thousand bucks

00:54:01.380 you think that's their that's their prerogative no hold on but justifiable for the man in that

00:54:06.740 situation to file a if he feels like he's done hold on let me finish justifiable for a man to

00:54:12.460 file a frivolous and vexatious lawsuit i feel like that's his prerogative he can do whatever he wants

00:54:19.540 and that's exactly you know if he wants to do that go for it so wait hold on just to be clear

00:54:25.380 so let's let me just remove relationships entirely from this conversation do you think

00:54:29.860 people are justified in general to file frivolous and vexatious lawsuits against people

00:54:35.940 if it makes sense okay so in order to succeed on a legal like petty revenge no sure petty revenge

00:54:44.940 i like i'm just saying like never happened to me sorry yeah but okay in order to succeed

00:54:51.640 on a legal claim you need to actually have like a cause of action probably just you know you can

00:54:57.300 put them through hell you know worrying and stuff like that so i you know trolling or i mean i that

00:55:04.680 won't happen to me so i'm just i feel like i'm not trolling no i don't i don't think she's trolling

00:55:11.480 i think she's being honest i would do that just to like make somebody's life miserable even if i were

00:55:15.820 to lose even if they minorly inconvenienced you in some way like i'm talking about like finances

00:55:22.340 like relationship like if a girl were to spend like a lot of money but okay have have you um how

00:55:28.980 many like relationships would you say you've had um not many but like i'm okay with my boyfriend i

00:55:35.260 have and is it 50 50 with you and your boyfriend yes it is 50 50 have you ever had a relationship

00:55:38.920 with where the guy was more so providing getting you gifts and you weren't um not really i was like

00:55:44.600 alone for like a year before my boyfriend so we've been dating for like a year we had a kid but we're

00:55:50.760 planning on getting married but just like can't agree on a venue and stuff like that but before

00:55:55.120 that i was alone for a year because i had you know bought my house in nashville and i had moved there

00:56:01.000 and i didn't know anyone and i was literally just like at music classes like a couple days a week and

00:56:06.640 i would just literally come home after that and like sit and play guitar and be with my dogs it was

00:56:12.020 very depressing just for one year i mean not to boil this down to like a legal podcast but like

00:56:18.920 if you willingly and maliciously bring a legal action without any merit and you do so for uh sort

00:56:25.840 of uh a kick frivolous and vexatious reasons they can actually they can then go after you and seek

00:56:32.940 i have probably not a good idea they can seek they can seek attorney's fees they can seek uh

00:56:38.040 comment uh what's it called maybe isn't that defamation maybe i just do small claims a frivolous

00:56:46.300 lawsuit anyways um so i don't think we it's not gonna happen i'm just you know this is funny to me

00:56:52.700 you know okay uh relationship status um i have a boyfriend i just had a kid a month ago all right

00:56:59.060 we've been together for a year and we are planning the wedding but he wants to get married in san

00:57:04.040 francisco because that's where he's from i want to get married in las vegas and so it's not really

00:57:09.000 he wants to like have all his family there and i'm just to each other and see who wins

00:57:13.640 no but i just i rather just have it like very small and intimate like with our child and

00:57:21.060 you know my family like my intimate family but he wants to invite like wait how long have you been

00:57:25.880 dating him a year but i have a child with him how long did you you've known him for a year

00:57:30.600 no no no i've known him for four years but you only started dating yeah dating him for a year but

00:57:36.300 he you know he was like an acquaintance like i would hang out with him in a group and stuff like

00:57:40.700 that but there was never like a point to like maybe like a year and some months ago where we're like

00:57:46.000 hey like we've never really like hung out alone and then we like wait so question i mean had you

00:57:51.240 had you guys had hooked up no never okay so no started dating like two months into the relationship

00:57:57.600 you got pregnant um no two three months yeah like a couple months yeah but i told him straight

00:58:04.240 up like i told him it wasn't an accident i said listen i'm looking for a serious relationship i'm

00:58:09.560 26 years old i was 25 at the time and i was very open and honest and i said i do want to start a

00:58:15.520 family and i already knew him for a while so all the girlfriends that he had prior two three two three

00:58:21.880 year relationships a five-year relationship and i knew that he was like the type of guy that was

00:58:26.560 not only a good guy but he was holding you know serious relationships and i told him from the

00:58:33.000 start you know i want to have kids i want to get married this is what i want i want to start my life

00:58:39.820 you know i'm not happy just sitting alone in nashville you know what's wrong with him wanting

00:58:45.180 to get married in front of his family though um what oh well it just there's nothing wrong with it

00:58:52.380 it just i'd rather just go to vegas you know he wants to invite every aunt every cousin every

00:58:57.740 friend it's his wedding too right i mean it's fine yeah i mean it just i and then he wants to get

00:59:01.840 married like in a church and all this stuff that bastard yes i rather church and family that son of a

00:59:08.800 bitch man this guy i love him so much i love him to death but man that he wants to like already

00:59:15.600 yeah i just i feel like how dare he how dare he he's so out of line he wants his aunt's uncle's

00:59:21.840 there bro rude aunts uncles family and a church what is this i just feel like it's cute i just feel

00:59:30.080 like vegas would be more fun and i just i want to get married like with like you know the elvis

00:59:35.300 impersonator my daughter's name is priscilla so i mean i'm a big elvis fan so i just you know i thought

00:59:40.900 it'd be really cute it's like a reverse uno car it's like you want to go have a shitty wedding

00:59:45.240 and he wants to have a real wedding i guess i mean i just i feel like it'd be fun to like you know my

00:59:51.240 cousins like one of my best friends like you know how my cousins out with me in vegas and oh but his

00:59:56.360 aunts and uncle that says they could you know they could come but i mean they're not not invited

01:00:01.740 you want to go to vegas so you can party i would like to party after the wedding with him yeah

01:00:07.180 yeah and your friends reception well my cousins yeah typically after a wedding you have a honeymoon

01:00:13.040 that's typically not spent with can't you go to vegas i don't know i just i love vegas and i just

01:00:18.920 feel like that would be a fun wedding so i know how dare he wanted a traditional wedding i know that

01:00:24.860 bastard uh what's the longest relationship you've ever had um just with him like a year too far oh sorry

01:00:31.060 just with him like a year but okay i was and prior to that so i was alone for one year

01:00:36.480 literally just going to music classes coming back was actually rescuing dogs can you stop

01:00:41.080 banging on the table sorry i was rescuing dogs for like a year basically before that and i was

01:00:46.820 dog mom yeah i had like three dogs to five dogs in my house at a time just like taking care of them

01:00:52.520 and then also going to like music school but it was temporary like i only had three dogs and i only

01:00:57.980 have wait hold on can we arrive at the point here yeah before that i mean for a year i was single

01:01:03.440 before that i was really single not really talking to anyone too so i guess like two years really just

01:01:10.140 alone and not even dating anyone just single and the year before that i did try to date somebody

01:01:16.700 um but it didn't work out and he just told me he wasn't like looking for anything serious and then

01:01:23.000 once we broke up he got a girlfriend but honestly i truly believe everything happens for a reason and

01:01:28.500 now i have a beautiful daughter i have a family i was very all part of the journey man

01:01:32.920 yeah but um i guess yeah i'm really happy with like him and my daughter and my family is like

01:01:41.120 involved now so i noticed you have uh some neck tattoos what's that one that's right in the center

01:01:46.440 this one it's an eight ball um i just thought it looked cool when i was 22

01:01:52.060 i don't know i like does is there a meaning no there's like no meaning another one on the side

01:02:00.340 of your neck yeah um i just so like when i was i have a few but when i was like 21 22 i never had

01:02:07.760 tattoos and i met this tattoo artist and he was like if you give me a shot on an instagram i'll do

01:02:14.700 all your tattoos for free and i was like okay why don't i spice myself up and then i've had

01:02:21.700 tattoo removal over 50 times so yeah wait what yeah wait you you got the tattoos but then you

01:02:29.380 were getting move them remove them like a few years later it's like i was like 21 when i started i got

01:02:34.660 i started tattoo removal at 23 and i'm still doing tattoo removal okay all right um relationship status

01:02:40.700 for you i'm single all right uh hold on how long have you been single for 18 years all right uh what's

01:02:51.760 the extent of your um relationship experience i had one situationship like a month ago and it was it

01:03:01.740 lasted like a month are you uh going into your freshman year yeah at ucsb yes okay um you said you had

01:03:09.240 one situationship it was a month ago how long did it last um about a month one month um okay and

01:03:19.000 that's the longest yeah and when you say situationship is it like that's the only guy you've ever had

01:03:26.320 anything with yes like first kiss yes first kiss more was there no just kiss of one month

01:03:37.980 kissing situationship okay um any dating apps no okay um are you religious at all um no not really

01:03:49.500 so you are uh you're a virgin then yes are you waiting until marriage no not waiting just waiting

01:03:55.520 for the right guy yeah okay got it all right uh what about you um i'm in a relationship

01:04:02.820 how long have you guys been together four years and six months all right i'm assuming that's your

01:04:11.520 longest relationship yes okay all right cool so we've got everybody's relationship status certainly

01:04:18.020 some interesting answers there uh i did want to come back to you

01:04:23.080 can you try to make sense of your i don't i still don't have any idea what's going on

01:04:30.140 do you want to ask like a question that could like yeah okay so um like a special connection

01:04:41.920 have you ever had like a one night stand or anything like that i don't really want to answer those

01:04:48.220 questions you don't want to like on camera like and you know in this context isn't isn't that within

01:04:58.300 the purview of like dating and relationships though yeah but to be fair i did get recruited off the street

01:05:07.080 like right you know so pretty i i didn't really know completely what it entailed but i prefer

01:05:14.820 keeping that you told them dating and relationships right okay right okay uh

01:05:21.320 um so what what dating and relationships things are you at liberty to discuss

01:05:26.760 why don't you tell me what you yeah you tell me what you're at liberty to discuss

01:05:35.420 um i would be open to discussing

01:05:41.500 i just honestly i would prefer not to put a lot of my personal details out on the table like that

01:05:53.620 but i didn't expect that those questions would be asked like i have never seen this podcast

01:06:00.580 um sure so it's just out of you know being a little naive and uninformed um right but it is like

01:06:09.920 dating and you don't have to answer that specific question it is just dating and

01:06:13.900 relationship uh relevant uh in any case you said you've dated a guy

01:06:19.380 i don't know if you consider dating for eight months that's the longest period of time you've seen

01:06:24.960 somebody he asked you to be your girlfriend you declined how long how soon into the eight months

01:06:32.420 did he ask you this question the will you be my girlfriend question

01:06:36.840 like at the towards the end towards the last two months okay is that what caused the breakup that he

01:06:47.280 wanted more i guess you could say that yeah okay um

01:06:54.960 all right and so what are you looking for right now do you want something more serious or you find

01:07:03.600 just kind of with more casual stuff i think that right now actually i want to be single and not even

01:07:13.240 have something casual with anyone um just because i like i mentioned earlier i did just graduate so i'm

01:07:20.040 going through a lot of transformation in my life right now and a lot of things that i want to tend

01:07:24.920 to in my own um mind that kind of nag at me and i think that if a relationship were to happen it would

01:07:31.120 be outside of my expecting one so i'm actually i i would like to be single right now at least

01:07:38.740 in this month or so because i'm also moving and

01:07:44.000 oh yeah back underscore to underscore the underscore roots donated one thousand dollars

01:07:52.060 pop champagne thank you brian andrew and the crew for doing what you do yeah thank you bro really

01:07:59.180 appreciate it thank you for a great youtube channel by the way thank you man appreciate it

01:08:03.100 thank you for the uh pop for the pop uh here i need uh honestly only me and andrew are allowed to

01:08:11.460 drink this show um can you get me a uh can you get me a uh like a hand towel or something

01:08:18.800 why are the girls not allowed to drink uh well we have people who are not of age and um

01:08:27.520 if if i give you a bit of this super pricey champagne maybe the more juicy details

01:08:36.260 will you tell me she saw the champagne i'm 22 we can share okay well i get this fucking thing

01:08:43.300 opened what the where's the tab bro oh i found it okay i think it was tucked uh andrew you want to

01:08:49.280 take over for a little bit well so i'm still hung up on the conditionals of a of what one of these

01:08:57.400 special connections i know it was a bit silly but it's because um a lot of the relationships that

01:09:06.880 i've had with people have been quite complicated and that's it just comes back to actually flaws in

01:09:12.740 my own personality that sometimes are a bit uh what's the word what's the word when you kind of

01:09:20.580 crazy you're crazy son am i crazy no i'm not crazy um like avoidant that's exactly what a crazy lady

01:09:28.400 would say by the way right i'm not crazy all right so so back to so back to the condition i think i

01:09:33.980 get it i think i understand what you're saying you're saying look it's it's complex these different

01:09:37.780 situationships these different types of relationships situationships yeah yeah i was

01:09:42.620 explaining it a little interesting but no yeah like a situationship where it's like i don't really know

01:09:49.460 how to feel about it and i also tend to avoid certain things because um yeah just my inability to

01:09:59.440 to meet people there so yeah i hope that kind of provides some clarity

01:10:05.980 yeah i mean kind of but i think i think the reason brian's trying to get into details

01:10:13.640 and i get i get what you're saying you don't want to put your personal life on the table that's fair

01:10:17.180 um but maybe you can kind of walk us through a little bit of the background without doing too

01:10:22.680 many of those hyper specific details and kind of generalities right that way we can understand better

01:10:28.700 because it's flitty right it sounds flitty like um a bit evasive i feel like i would need a question

01:10:37.280 to cut like to know what where to go because i have had like um experiences with multiple people

01:10:45.480 but it's complicated because of the circumstances that the relationship starts on so it's like we're

01:10:55.260 about to graduate we're about to move maybe there is someone else in the picture um or maybe we're

01:11:01.960 friends maybe we work together and so these things kind of it's like a yeah like a blockage between

01:11:11.060 me and someone else really fully being so this last this this last elongated relationship you had

01:11:16.540 well not a relationship because there was no there was no label right yeah cheers

01:11:21.760 there's no label he wants the label you say no well that wasn't the last one the last one

01:11:32.660 i was exclusive with for four months that was actually so bad

01:11:37.600 so bad and also he like lived in new york and actually i wanted more so bad it was really he was

01:11:48.980 like quite a bit older than me and i was an experience in many ways and um i was exposed to a

01:11:56.740 lot of new experiences through him and it put me in a lot of dangerous situations and

01:12:04.300 and you and you wanted it to be more and i wanted it to be more of course

01:12:09.120 i wanted it to be right and then it didn't so the guy who wanted something to be more with you

01:12:15.960 that fuck that guy the guy you're in dangerous situations with you'll want more right that's what

01:12:22.360 goes back to like me being a little fucked up too where that's why i prefer to be alone right now

01:12:27.720 because i could see that yeah maybe my perception on what love is is a little fucked up and i should

01:12:33.700 probably work that out before i get into something that pretty common that women it is it is really

01:12:37.780 common it is really common i mean that women gravitate towards men who love bomb they love

01:12:43.300 bomb well is it love bombing or is it they love bomb for you they love bomb for a week buy you this buy

01:12:48.400 you that and then it's like they do it to the next person the next week and then again the next

01:12:52.200 week but didn't you didn't you love bomb your ex i loved on him but before he broke up with me

01:12:58.880 and he wasn't my ex he's just some guy i talked to he's irrelevant some guy that you were living

01:13:07.160 with and sleeping with who definitely wasn't your ex that was the two-year one oh my mistake yeah

01:13:13.300 yeah no yeah no no wait was that the was that the two-year i thought you said that this last guy

01:13:20.840 six months yeah but you did okay no no he came over to your house yeah so he didn't we don't live

01:13:26.720 together he would just go back and forth okay but he broke up with you because your family situation

01:13:31.480 yeah okay he did tell me it was nothing i did and he cried about it he cried to me about it he said

01:13:37.840 i'm not the problem you were definitely the problem no i mean definitely the problem no i'm nice

01:13:45.380 trust me i'm like the coolest person

01:13:47.280 feel like you might have been the problem no no that doesn't sound right you didn't do it no of

01:13:54.520 course not of course not

01:13:57.800 no well we're gonna get into some of the uh pre-show notes here so uh let's see who do we

01:14:07.720 start with well actually i i guess i'll come back to you or wait hold on angel who's angel

01:14:12.640 oh right okay that's that's one of the flakes okay all right my notes out the table actually she

01:14:20.980 does have something i'll pull it up really quick nick could you pull up that photo it's like the girl in

01:14:27.200 the yellow shirt or whatever she was supposed to be on the show today she's flaked i saw this on

01:14:31.660 her instagram i thought andrew would like it oh my god andrew her t-shirt says jesus loves you

01:14:38.080 oh all right sorry no what jesus loves porn stars excuse me andrew uh does i don't i'm not an expert

01:14:47.620 does jesus yeah love porn stars yeah jesus loves loves everybody yeah oh okay yeah sex is natural but

01:14:56.080 no no no that's now you just now you just went over the threshold you went over the threshold yes

01:15:02.880 jesus will still love you but that doesn't mean you should be a porn star right that's not um it's not

01:15:10.880 within the purview of christian ethics so yeah no it would still be a big no on that yeah yeah yeah

01:15:19.120 anyways i just thought i'd bring it up i actually will do her notes really quick because fuck it

01:15:22.720 uh she said she's had a couple boyfriends steal money from her one stole two thousand the other

01:15:28.520 stole twenty thousand honestly though i think she deserves it because she flaked on us

01:15:32.860 she deserved it you can't say anything because it's petty and vindictive and you like that shit

01:15:38.500 that's right she deserved it totally she inconvenienced us if you guys feel like that

01:15:45.940 she inconvenienced us i think it's justified uh this is a post hoc justification the thefts are

01:15:55.640 justified because even though that happens in the past she inconvenienced us so anyways um she also

01:16:03.300 says i don't know i'm curious how much pussy he gets i don't know if this is to andrew or to me

01:16:08.900 this is one of her notes she's curious of how much pussy we get um unfortunately she's not here

01:16:14.160 but it's not clear to me even if me and andrew were both giga chat virgins how would that diminish

01:16:21.000 any of the things that we say or the arguments or the positions that we have um in any case

01:16:29.500 that's a good question thank you angel for uh not being here so uh going to cc cc that's you okay

01:16:40.280 uh you said you caught your ex picking up a hooker oh my gosh oh what the fuck sorry sorry

01:16:46.540 did not sure why not sure why that came up my elbow bumped it yeah

01:16:52.820 okay go ahead i hate andrew tape because his name's andrew the one that picked up his name's

01:17:01.240 andrew his name is andrew wait i didn't mean to say that out loud but yeah that's his name

01:17:06.960 cancel him uh so your ex you caught your ex picking up a hooker yes you want me to tell you the story

01:17:14.560 yeah okay so basically one night we were home we always we used to fight all the time um

01:17:20.080 he left the house one night he has two phones an iphone like two try phones whatever he left one home

01:17:24.960 and then i turned his location on on the phone he left home he was going to the bank from the bank he

01:17:30.280 went i don't know if you guys ever been to arizona but there's bethany home road in 27th

01:17:34.500 av it's like figueroa thank you for sharing the exact street corner it's like figueroa it's where

01:17:39.820 the prostitutes are yes the hookers like multiple like loads of them loads loads like he left the

01:17:46.600 load for them you know anyways if you know what i mean are you talking about yeah ejaculate yeah

01:17:53.380 you're talking yes yes so when i pulled up are you talking about ejaculate yeah just checking okay

01:17:58.380 yeah so when i pulled up to him so i told my best friend to drive me to his location he didn't know

01:18:02.340 i was going so i saw his truck there and there was like like you know a couple hookers surrounding

01:18:06.080 his car yeah and then i swung i like kind of like this is his car and i parked right in front of it

01:18:11.620 so he couldn't like leave so i like yanked his like door open and then he had cash in his lap and

01:18:17.500 you know how like when you know you do the dirty in the car the car smells you know like the dirty like

01:18:21.780 after i don't know if you guys have done that but i mean it's like you premature ejaculate it's not

01:18:27.420 that bad yeah no but like he had somebody in the car he had it's quick you know like you're not

01:18:33.920 gonna like build up a sweat so okay i don't know anyways so stank and yeah it's stank like you know

01:18:40.720 whatever but um yeah he basically so he was already on round two probably going to be maybe in round

01:18:48.860 three four i don't know borehide a lot of cash do prostitutes do that they do round two

01:18:52.540 no he just gotta go to like five different prostitutes right like he said or she said

01:18:57.580 they charge by the hours so i guess if you like you like you try to come quick like some charge by

01:19:02.260 the hours some charge by like what you do like is there by the nut what's the nut i don't know i'd

01:19:07.220 love to ask him how much he charged him but it's like what if they buy an hour but like the guy's

01:19:13.060 like super quick does he still get the hour like can he make her like wash his car or some shit

01:19:17.140 i don't know i wonder do you think you could like if you if you're like trying to get a

01:19:23.680 prostitute you like you don't actually want her to have sex with you you just pay her this her rate

01:19:27.720 to like like wash your car or some shit you think she'd do it yeah i think she would i think she would

01:19:33.840 no i'm pretty sure she would wash huh go to a car wash that can do real work come on you don't

01:19:40.320 think so i'm just curious there's there's tons of people who've gone out and tested that

01:19:43.900 there's videos all over youtube of them they say no yeah they say no you know what we should do

01:19:48.280 andrew we should go i'm definitely not doing whatever it is you're about to suggest hear me

01:19:52.780 out whatever it is hear this out okay we go but like we we challenge them to like a game of chess

01:19:59.380 and we'll pay them their rate but we just like play chess with them and if they're not smart enough

01:20:03.140 we'll do we'll bring checkers but what if one of them beats me like my ego could never recover

01:20:06.600 from that they used to what if she's like an undercover what is it the elo rating or whatever

01:20:16.680 so hang on your big plan is to go play chess with hookers that sounds great what do you you don't

01:20:22.800 like it i'm not sure there's a couple there's about is it figaro andrews are pretty hey andrews

01:20:29.480 are pretty good with hookers so go for it what's the street in santa barbara no we're really good

01:20:34.020 with chess there's it was just there haley street haley street has hookers there's a hookers in santa

01:20:40.760 barbara yeah yeah i think so yeah at the all right did you used to work the oh by the strip club

01:20:48.360 oh no you see but one of my friends she was a hooker no no no her ex-boyfriend like uh cheated on her

01:20:55.760 um with hookers at the this massage this chinese massage place why you got for the chinese under the

01:21:03.200 that's it's infamously known for giving massages happy endings exactly i went one time to a place

01:21:10.640 for a legit massage but then they tried to like do more i'm like get your hands away what's that

01:21:16.740 yeah right no i was legit trying to get a massage i didn't know it was like i mean yeah right

01:21:21.040 may i ask something where do you guys find these people that cheat on you with hookers oh um i found my

01:21:29.740 man or my ex on um he was his mom was best friends with my aunt since before me and him were born

01:21:36.020 so they set us up oh okay yeah i've never like not even in my circle do i know someone that's been

01:21:42.760 cheated on or has slept with a hooker like i think that's something so specific well it's because he's

01:21:47.620 a sex addict thank you wait so did you finish the story though so you you confronted him right

01:21:53.400 yeah did you tell us that part or no so yeah i did confront him so i when i opened the car door i

01:21:57.680 was like what the hell are you doing he was like he honestly wasn't shocking he was like oh like

01:22:01.260 let's go home talk about it like completely manipulated the situation so i got in the car

01:22:05.060 we went home and then as soon as we got home he started like cussing me out like he ripped the

01:22:09.320 phone out of my hand you know he was like you know like why like why are you going through my

01:22:13.640 phone you're crazy like how'd you find where i was and you know one thing led to another and stuff

01:22:18.320 like that what do you mean what do you mean one thing led to another just you know boys you were

01:22:23.380 kind of gesturing like you did like a that yeah did you fuck him up no you did you smack him around

01:22:32.760 no the other way around like instead of me hit me yeah he hit you yeah after you fucked a prostitute

01:22:37.800 yeah damn that's heavy and he almost pushed me down my stairs and how long did you stay with him

01:22:41.700 after that i left the week after i just couldn't i just couldn't come back here because i didn't have

01:22:45.240 my own car so i had to wait to get paid so you should have gone and fucked a prostitute

01:22:49.500 that's what you should have done i don't know that's i just know he needs to get like tested

01:22:54.520 or something because i don't know it was weird are there male prostitutes yes yes i would just

01:23:00.220 like but do girls need like can't girls get dick anytime it's probably like uh like gay guys

01:23:08.280 who are prostitutes no but i mean like straight male prostitutes that fuck chicks is that a thing

01:23:13.360 yeah no idea where that's a thing attractive woman probably like the magic mic shows in vegas

01:23:18.780 even unattractive women can get dick pretty easy i don't know maybe just a really yeah with a bag

01:23:24.540 women have getting sex on on easy mode i mean there's sugar mamas so that's a thing it's rare

01:23:32.200 though there's find me i'll i'll take a sugar mama where's the sugar mamas i feel like you want to be

01:23:37.120 my sugar mama no no i i charge i'm keeping all the money i'm keeping it all for my allowance is

01:23:43.640 ryan your degeneracy tonight sorry i swear to ten bro took two shots and i swear to god dude i'm a

01:23:50.840 lightweight i don't drink yeah i'm already that was me last night you don't hear me slurring my words

01:23:54.420 okay anyways in truth there are in wine there is truth brian andrew i'm just having a little banter

01:24:00.420 it's just a little banter you want to be my sugar mama i'm a little it's a little banter bring brian

01:24:05.560 some more champagne she's 19 what and what does what does that have to do with it you want a 19

01:24:13.480 year old sugar mama yeah she's you're doing well yeah i ain't giving you the money it ain't for you

01:24:19.780 wait but so wait what i'm just curious what what's the objection is it just because like you she's 19 so

01:24:26.280 she doesn't have money is that the objection or she's too young for me specifically yeah like how

01:24:33.900 old are you 35 yeah she's like pretty young what oh wait just to be clear i mean but but what if

01:24:42.960 somebody was paying her to sleep with him would you have an objection to that

01:24:46.080 i mean i didn't say anything about i think to each their own i see i know but i'm but i'm bringing

01:24:55.060 it up because i want to know would you object to the chick who does corn next to you if she was

01:25:03.480 getting paid to sleep with a 35 year old versus datum um i think that

01:25:11.960 i think that that's a moral dilemma i it well yeah that's why i'm asking the question it's a moral

01:25:23.960 dilemma yeah in order to be consistent you either have to say yes in both cases or no in both cases

01:25:29.740 right well that's fair i think that it's a moral dilemma and i think that in certain ways side on

01:25:39.060 this moral dilemma i would probably say that to each their own but maybe i don't think that it's

01:25:46.180 right either way so you object to both low key yeah high key yeah but not not necessarily like i think

01:25:54.660 i i object i object to both low key i object to both but at the same time

01:26:00.300 i object to both but at the same time i don't object to both because i believe in free will and that

01:26:08.700 people are free to do as they please and i actually won't judge someone for doing that

01:26:13.020 and maybe more likely if it's a 35 year old man well hold on hold on just to be clear so i said

01:26:19.200 nothing about sex at all simply sugar daddy so she would just pay me money and she would get nothing

01:26:26.400 in return essentially that's what women do in any case um so you have an issue is that a moral

01:26:34.140 dilemma what does that mean no she wants to give him money that's cool but you said people have free

01:26:40.560 will and they can do what they want but not let's say she wanted to date a 35 year old doesn't even

01:26:48.760 have to be me could be somebody else right if she wanted to date a 35 year old would you object to her

01:26:55.440 wanting to date the 35 year old or to the 35 year old wanting to date her to the 35 year old wanting

01:27:00.840 to date her okay it gives you the ick doesn't it no because it just shows the maturity is low

01:27:08.140 like why would you want to date a teenager at 35 that makes no sense like you mean an adult

01:27:13.760 um i think that i say the latter because a 35 year old man has more experience than a 19 year old

01:27:24.080 girl so how do you five year old man huh so does a 25 year old man right but like 10 more than 10

01:27:32.560 years is like quite a bit have you ever dated a man who you had a 10 year gap with have you

01:27:40.060 see i've noticed i want to tell you this trend that i've noticed right i used to think that all of the

01:27:46.880 women who said i have zero moral argument to this whatsoever and people should be allowed to do what

01:27:52.040 they want but i just think it's icky i used to think that they were just dumb and i'd be like

01:27:57.380 you got to just be dumb to believe that because you have no moral argument against it at all so

01:28:03.380 why do you believe but then i figured this out after talking to so many of them all of the ones

01:28:08.620 who go i gives me the ick they've all been in an age gap relationship wait did i say it gave me

01:28:13.440 didn't say yeah you did kind of say it gave you the ick that what other objection could you have

01:28:18.600 no it's not that it gives me the ick it's that i think that there's a gap in knowledge

01:28:23.260 and experience there's a gap in knowledge and experience with people your own age you can date

01:28:27.280 somebody your own age exactly your age and they could be 10 times more sophisticated than you and

01:28:33.360 dumber than the 35 year old down the street right but in that situation it puts young girls at risk to

01:28:39.640 be put in really negative life-altering situations really that as a man you put that younger woman in

01:28:49.440 that position what what position would this be um a position that maybe she was too naive to know

01:28:56.800 she was getting herself into yeah but she could be in that position no matter what right but why

01:29:02.200 would age especially more likely why is age the factor because of experience okay in the uk

01:29:10.640 there's a a department of uh of statistics they took all of the relationships ever all of the

01:29:19.980 marriages on record ever that they have they wanted to see if the age gap relationships failed

01:29:26.340 as much as the similar age relationships they don't they don't fail at any higher rate they

01:29:34.100 said there's no statistical anomaly between the two how could that be if the sophistication is such

01:29:41.380 that these men who are older and they were talking 20 years in some of these gaps can you explain why it

01:29:48.660 is that those relationships wouldn't fail us any more than similar age relationships

01:29:53.380 so i don't want you to misinterpret me here because i'm not anti age gap relationships but i'm just

01:30:05.320 saying that it puts you more and it puts i think especially in america specifically it's different

01:30:11.500 because of the culture and it puts younger women at more of a risk to be in situations that might

01:30:18.580 leave them the risk the risk part i don't get i don't understand why would it be a higher risk

01:30:26.240 than dating somebody who's going and getting hookers at 22 right why what is the what is this risk issue

01:30:32.440 may i ask a question it's because the certain sorry it's this certain type of man who is 35 and has a

01:30:39.100 relationship with a 19 year old girl it clearly has no agency by the way it's um no definitely women do

01:30:46.140 have agency but especially young women they have agency but their lack of knowledge translates into

01:30:53.900 a lack of wisdom and often those women are a bit more naive because of like i said their lack of

01:31:00.300 experience also as a 35 year old man when you can't obtain a relationship within your age dating pool

01:31:08.480 and you go for someone who's younger maybe based on attractiveness or maybe you guys do have certain

01:31:17.040 things that are that similarities at the same time

01:31:20.320 maybe you're less i find that 30 men who are older who go for women who are younger are less likely to

01:31:30.620 actually be able to sustain a relationship with women in their age age group and i think that that goes

01:31:37.600 for a certain level of manipulation but that's not always the case because i'm i don't believe

01:31:43.600 in generalizing initial point i just want to make sure that i heard you correctly right you have no

01:31:49.680 objection to an age gap relationship no i'm not i'm not i'm there's nuances but i'm not objected

01:31:55.760 i've been in an age gap relationship well what knew it knew it knew it what was hang on hang on so i was

01:32:01.600 right but that's you're in an age gap relationship so that's why i'm saying yeah so you're projecting

01:32:06.560 you're projecting right no i'm speaking from was it a good or a bad experience bad experience right go

01:32:12.400 ahead no it was a good experience until it was a bad experience right so it was a bad experience wait i

01:32:18.160 have so many questions every single time by the way i just want to point this out that i did call that

01:32:23.760 right yeah but i'm speaking from experience i'm sure you are go hey can you guys be quiet back there

01:32:32.480 guys we're in the middle of a show

01:32:36.000 okay so i'm a look you said you had an age gap relationship

01:32:42.240 yeah what was the gap it was over 10 years it wasn't over here tell us the gap just tell us

01:32:48.160 the gap it was nine years okay how old were you how old was the guy i was 21 and the guy was 29 and

01:32:56.640 then i turned he turned 30 and i turned 22 shortly after okay so um you said that

01:33:07.280 slipped my mind okay um so based on this negative experience right that you had with this guy you're

01:33:15.840 not in any way projecting that other people don't have similar experiences to that in an age gap

01:33:21.040 relationship no i think that age like i think that those relationships could work and this was

01:33:27.280 actually the relationship that the ex the exclusive relationship i was in for four months at the

01:33:32.960 beginning of this year that i wanted to work but i just found there to be more right and he said

01:33:40.000 what did he say again no he didn't say no it just i it's complicated how does he not say no

01:33:50.160 because he kept trying to contact me but i didn't let it continue further i initially wanted it to be

01:33:59.200 more until things went south and then i cut it off okay so in this age gap relationship where you

01:34:05.680 wanted there to be more why did you want there to be more because he was really cool because it

01:34:13.440 was that because he had more experience and was more sophisticated and had more money and all that

01:34:17.840 stuff yeah yeah and he was really cool he did and you had agency to choose for that and you wanted

01:34:25.120 more out of it right right but i was naive i don't understand though he sounds like he was hyper

01:34:30.640 predatory he's preying on a poor helpless 21 22 year old girl she just did the experience gap was

01:34:37.840 so wide right she he was he was a super predator right no he wasn't no he wasn't he wasn't predatory

01:34:45.520 at all right so this is this is my whole point so when you when you kind of bring it up and you frame

01:34:49.840 it oh these guys they can't get anybody in their own age bracket this guy couldn't get anybody in

01:34:54.880 his own age bracket really well maybe he wanted to but uh i guess he didn't have luck doing that

01:35:02.800 or he just found a younger chick he thought was more attractive right i actually i i wanted to

01:35:07.200 come in on the whole so you made an argument about how men who are older who date younger women they do

01:35:13.360 it one of the reasons they do it is because they're incapable of getting women their own age i have a bit

01:35:18.480 of a counter to this i actually think a man who's attractive enough at 35 to date a 19 year old

01:35:25.600 is probably a he's so attractive that he's able to uh from just being able to date a 19 year old

01:35:32.960 that the women in his age range are probably more attracted to him than to men that are incapable of

01:35:39.280 securing uh romantic or sexual interest from 19 20 21 year old women because typically for a guy who's in

01:35:47.920 his 30s to date like a 20 21 year old he has to be really attractive to pull that off most men who

01:35:58.000 are 35 40 they're not attractive enough to pull off dating a 21 year old so actually this whole

01:36:06.720 argument of they they're incapable of securing relationships from women in their whole age range

01:36:11.520 therefore they go for younger more attractive more desirable women i think kind of falls flat on its face

01:36:18.720 i think it's very circumstantial to not generalize and then also it's kind of this thing where the

01:36:23.760 roles are reversed right where when a girl is young she kind of has a larger dating pool and then as a man

01:36:30.560 ages and gets more agency and money and maybe gets his priorities in check the roles kind of reverse where

01:36:38.800 now his dating pools kind of expands and as women age maybe they don't have the same dating pool as when

01:36:47.120 they were young and maybe that's another reason why men date younger but just kind of contradicted

01:36:52.160 yourself no but it's because there's new there's a gray area you know but if younger women have an

01:36:57.520 expansive dating pool and then when men get older they have an expansive dating pool if the younger

01:37:04.000 women's expansive dating pool would exclude all 35 40 year old men's because there's are the whitest at

01:37:09.520 that point why wouldn't they go for them in their own age no you you bring up a really good point i

01:37:15.120 did contradict myself but at the same time i just want to end by saying that it's always circumstantial

01:37:20.720 and it's hard to generalize so i take back my generalization easy to generalize it's it's not

01:37:27.200 productive to generalize i think it is i think it's productive to make general statements like there's a

01:37:33.040 bunch of palm trees outside that's a pretty general statement i didn't tell you how many but you can

01:37:38.960 agree that there's definitely a bunch of them out there right can i add something i would say

01:37:44.800 let us finish the exchange i think that it is even important

01:37:54.000 to

01:37:54.240 not generalize how important or how productive it can be to generalize sometimes it is sometimes

01:38:02.800 it's not that's what i'm saying like you can't make a generalization about everything because

01:38:06.960 context matters circumstances matters you can't personal experiences i agree with you in principle

01:38:12.720 that you can't generalize everything she can generalize a lot of things with a pretty good

01:38:17.600 degree of accuracy you live most of your life through generalization true but when it comes to

01:38:21.440 conversations about men and women there's a lot lost in translation when there's general

01:38:27.440 immediately you are generalizing because you say men and women this is both of those are just

01:38:32.400 general statements right we're not having a conversation about a specific woman a specific

01:38:38.640 man but men and women so aren't you generalizing yeah it got me there it's it's it's in terms about

01:38:49.040 the conversations that you have it within the within the niche you have to see this gray area or else

01:38:55.920 um a lot is lost you don't see you get further from the talk about nuance the more yeah you get

01:39:00.400 further from the truth the more that you generalize generally it was that what is that hang on

01:39:06.640 was was that statement you get closer to the truth you get further or further from the truth the more

01:39:12.640 you generalize did that come from one of your these um special connections did they teach you that the

01:39:17.920 truth now the truth now did they no no no no i don't know okay okay i want to a hundred percent

01:39:30.640 agree with what brian said um and especially when you get to be my age i'm 26 i'm the oldest one here

01:39:37.760 right now when i had a motherly instinct at 23 that okay that i want to find somebody like that's when i

01:39:45.280 really start to feel like that i want to find somebody that i can settle down with and even

01:39:48.720 with my relationship i was you know very up front of what i wanted and as a woman that gets you know

01:39:54.880 it's to and not all women but for me it was very important to me to find you know somebody to build

01:40:00.720 a family with and a boyfriend before i'm 30 because once you turn 30 as a woman your dating pool you know

01:40:07.440 gets really small because guys do want younger girls that is the truth especially if they have money

01:40:12.640 and stuff and guys i feel like they can you know depending on the guy nobody really a guy can

01:40:19.280 basically you know they can have kids as long as they want especially the kid situation where you

01:40:23.920 know as women get into their 30s they have to do ibf where men can keep having kids basically as long

01:40:29.680 as they want so i feel like they can have natural births but you're gonna have a lot less of a lot less

01:40:33.840 yeah and like my dad um he had kids with a woman that was significantly younger and he's in his 50s

01:40:40.080 and the kid actually came out how much younger um i think 17 18 years and um i don't agree with it

01:40:47.360 because i don't personally like her as a person but the kid came out wait does that mean you don't

01:40:52.800 agree with the age gap or you just don't like her i don't like her yeah but um their kid came out

01:40:58.560 disabled so which is because of how old she was um how old he was he was like in his 50s and how old

01:41:04.640 was she she was um i believe um 32 or 33 well why would you put in on him i don't know maybe it

01:41:12.960 could be both i'm not sure but i know that you know i'm not i don't know there's situation like

01:41:19.200 that but i do feel like you know woman personally me my um opinion is women should think about

01:41:25.680 hang on hang on hang on so you gotta stop you gotta stop why do you keep saying woman in lieu

01:41:31.680 of women women i think should yeah but why do you think women do that why do they say woman

01:41:39.360 instead of women i don't know that's my bad but i mean is it is it am i being super pedantic but

01:41:47.600 every time i have a conversation with modern women they say woman as the plural version of women

01:41:56.240 good point why why i don't know i i i didn't even think twice when i said that yeah yeah you said it

01:42:03.840 seven times i didn't i honestly didn't even think about that perspective yeah just but um i think you

01:42:11.600 know to me what was important was starting a family and finding somebody that i want to spend the rest of

01:42:16.640 my life with and you know not many women are like that but you know when you get older the dating

01:42:23.360 pools of women get smaller that's just my opinion but not everyone has to agree with it okay may i add

01:42:32.000 on opinion to the topic may i add my opinion on to the topic of the age gap um so i would argue that

01:42:41.600 there's actually a lot of benefits to dating older because typically men mature more when

01:42:46.400 they're older i'm not sure like someone can fact check this men are five to six is that true like

01:42:54.480 years behind in the maturity no no okay then never mind don't use that but it's it's commonly accepted

01:43:01.920 that it used to be so this is due to nourishment a lot of this goes down in nourishment science so

01:43:10.000 it used to be that people didn't get as good of nourishment as they do now right food was a little

01:43:14.320 scarcer this type of thing people were shorter uh iqs were lower that happens a lot of that is

01:43:20.000 directly correlated with how well nourished you are when when you're growing so used to be that women

01:43:25.600 would get a lot of the lion's share of the food they mature a lot quicker so that's kind of where

01:43:30.000 that stereotype comes from um what did you want to add more yeah yeah uh so i would saying i would

01:43:39.840 argue that there's a lot of um benefits to dating older because i find that a lot of men when they're

01:43:46.000 young they're not established in their career and a lot of women go spend their youth which is when they

01:43:51.760 have the most um dating value so they spend their youth dating a man who has no money provides no

01:43:58.960 value to their life no marriage um nothing literally and they're sleeping with them and they get broken

01:44:07.360 up with when the man it finally establishes career and feels secure finds confidence in himself and wants

01:44:13.280 um to kind of upgrade his girlfriend or starts looking starts expanding his dating pool and then the

01:44:22.240 woman just wastes her youth and and then they're left with nothing bringing value to their life

01:44:30.960 so i i could argue that some girls can obviously we're all females but i can argue that some girls

01:44:36.400 as well like they'll be the ones that will use the guys for the money and then they'll come successful

01:44:40.960 and the guys just left with nothing um that you mean gold diggers yeah but like relationship wise

01:44:49.600 yeah but you're talking about specifically referencing gold diggers there right yeah the man has to have

01:44:54.640 money for the woman well typically like you know if he doesn't have money to take advantage of there's

01:45:00.160 nothing there so i'm talking about like in young relationships there's it's not likely for a woman to

01:45:05.680 like use the man and leave him with no money when he hasn't even established a career yet to be

01:45:10.800 taken advantage of like that yeah women don't usually date down can i add something i was uh

01:45:18.080 financially very established when i met my boyfriend like when we started dating and um but

01:45:23.920 what about potential potential yeah so there's two there's kind of two theories behind this right and i

01:45:30.800 think that they're both interconnected theory one is uh they're going after men who have higher

01:45:36.080 resources this is kind of biologically ingrained in women makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint

01:45:41.040 let's say the second is they also go after earning potential meaning right now maybe you're not making

01:45:48.160 a lot but i can tell based on personality this that that you definitely will be yes like a man that has

01:45:54.800 ambitions not just ambitions but the potential to fulfill ambition and like certain character traits that go

01:46:00.400 along with successful people right i would like to speak from my experience i've been dating the

01:46:06.160 person i'm with since i was 14 years old and i definitely see a lot of potential in him because he

01:46:11.040 is constantly working he's investing he hasn't made it yet but i do believe yeah he has extreme potential

01:46:16.560 because he has discipline um and he's an outlier to the majority of the young men population exactly

01:46:25.840 yeah i i that's great yeah yeah i do like that i mean so you might have been in other words you

01:46:32.720 might have been established and had money like you have this settlement right successful channels this

01:46:37.200 kind of thing yeah but i wanted a family but are you saying that he doesn't have the potential

01:46:41.760 no he 100 does no then i think he definitely does then you're kind of proving the well kind of

01:46:49.520 proving the point definitely he's a lot more accomplished than me in many areas he you know i'm

01:46:55.600 pursuing music he's already gold um and there's he's signed to a record so you're marrying up i'm

01:47:02.480 not signed to a record so you're marrying up um essentially we we both balance each other out i

01:47:08.800 might be you know doing better with you know the properties that i own the property i own or he might

01:47:14.480 be doing better than me and music but i feel like okay hang on yeah because you're kind of evasive

01:47:21.440 here a little bit so let's just see if we can narrow this does he make more money than you do no no

01:47:28.560 is he going to um yes that's it then yeah pretty simple right so you're still dating up yeah

01:47:40.480 i just i really loved him so i didn't care about me everybody always says that but then when you get

01:47:45.760 into the nitty-gritty it's like yeah family you have to you know everything changes you know so

01:47:52.080 before we move on to a new topic did anybody else have any other further objections or arguments when

01:47:56.400 it comes to the uh age gap stuff so are you conceding the point on this that age gaps are perfectly

01:48:05.600 acceptable is that your position yes are you yeah oh okay well done andrew uh all right moving on to

01:48:16.560 selena uh uh selena i noticed in one of your profiles it looked like you had some arabic

01:48:24.320 writing are you do you speak arabic or no so actually i really wanted to learn arabic

01:48:30.800 but it was too hard so no i can teach you really yeah i really wanted to like learn other languages

01:48:38.160 because when i grew up i um i was always in language class but i'm like really bad at learning

01:48:45.120 languages so when i got older i really wanted to learn arabic but from what my understanding

01:48:50.320 it's just very hard and so i kind of just gave up uh you said that you if i recall from the pre-show

01:48:56.800 notes you said that you personally like traditional dating do you consider yourself traditional um as

01:49:04.800 far as my work no but it's like right in my personal life yes like i like traditional like so roles you

01:49:13.440 know with a man well what does that look like for me it's just like a man that's dominant that will

01:49:18.240 approach me um that has something that um that maybe i don't have like i don't know like that can bring

01:49:25.760 like me happiness and like it's just for me i feel like i do better in relationships where the man is

01:49:33.840 the dominant one like you know even simple things like planning a date instead of you know leaving

01:49:39.840 it up to me you know what i mean like i just like that dominant role in being the submissive one in a

01:49:44.720 relationship so then other than naming a thing which is reciprocal what i mean by reciprocal is if i ask you

01:49:51.680 this question what do you bring to the table then that you would want this from a man without naming

01:49:59.280 a trait which is going to be reciprocal meaning he's bringing the same thing what a value are you

01:50:05.520 going to be bringing to this relationship i feel like that's subjective only because

01:50:10.720 no really subjective sure well the man would decide that so it's like if he doesn't think i'm good enough

01:50:15.760 to date well no no in this case i'm asking you what you think i assume that he's going to that this

01:50:22.000 potential guy is going to come up with all sorts of different metrics for whatever those are but

01:50:28.320 you specifically from your perception what would you be bringing ulis is the pagan donated two hundred

01:50:36.640 part of the feminist indoctrination they put a chips in gen z and alpha's head over reading their

01:50:41.760 cerebral cortex making them say woman has the plural four motives only known by lacy pelosi and

01:50:47.760 mars so are meaning yeah that's definitely about me i don't get it what does that mean uh thank you

01:50:54.160 pagan well he's saying that when gen z women are born the doctor puts a microchip in their brain which

01:51:02.080 causes a short circuit along their cerebral cortex so when they say woman as a plural form of women

01:51:09.760 that's why it's a special comment okay wait you don't believe that no that's because he's trolling

01:51:17.360 no i know you didn't know you can't play it off now you messed it all up you can't play it off

01:51:25.600 you were so close so close so close anyway so back to this question um yeah what would you be bringing

01:51:34.640 to the table do you think that that is non-reciport so like if a man sees me on the street or something

01:51:42.240 like what would what would be the traits that he would see that would draw him in no no no what

01:51:47.120 would you be bringing to the table that he wouldn't be bringing to the table

01:51:50.560 in the context of what like of a relationship like as far as like the maturity anything um

01:52:06.560 i mean i don't know it's just like i'm trying to like trying to be like open without thinking about

01:52:11.840 like too like narrow-minded like you know can you restate back to us the multiple traits that you

01:52:17.760 listed out that you wanted a man um i was saying i like a dominant man yep um is established mature

01:52:28.960 and um i guess not an asshole i don't know but so it's very easy for you to answer what you're looking

01:52:34.800 for but why is it a little harder for like here's all the traits that i want in the guy why can't you

01:52:40.560 just as easily say here's what i'm bringing so what are those things i mean for me personally like it's

01:52:46.800 definitely hard to like narrow things down because like you don't seem to have any trouble narrowing

01:52:51.440 them down for what you want right because that's in my perspective of what i want but it's like it's

01:52:56.480 hard for us as people to reflect that inward and know what traits you know what i mean really wait a

01:53:04.480 second is it in my opinion because i can wait don't you know yourself the best you've been living with

01:53:10.560 yourself for 19 years you know everything there is to know about you so how would you not be able

01:53:18.080 if you're looking externally at externally about men who i might not even know i want xyz

01:53:24.880 but why can't you just list out well here's what i'm bringing here's me this is what i bring well i mean

01:53:33.600 i'm i i don't know like it's just hard to like okay that's fair you know just it's just i think it's

01:53:39.200 just the phrasing let me ask the second part of the question what baggage would you bring baggage i

01:53:45.760 mean relationship wise or just in general relationship um baggage wise i mean i guess

01:53:54.560 if they were to look at my sexual things you know like i guess body count or my profession

01:54:02.160 the fact that i don't have a lot of relationship experience

01:54:04.720 um i think age could also play a factor because that comes with the lack of experience

01:54:11.040 um so we have at least four four pieces of baggage right can we get one

01:54:18.640 positive that you're going to be bringing to this relationship that's non-reciprocal from from what men have

01:54:25.360 told me like in my personal life they like me because i'm honest with them i'm funny like in my personal

01:54:34.480 reciprocal traits though you would expect honesty as you're getting honesty right right so that's

01:54:40.240 a reciprocal trait it's a non-reciprocal trait that you think you would bring

01:54:48.320 something that would benefit him no by being with you um i mean yeah i mean that that's why i was

01:54:56.560 saying it's up to the individual like i'm not gonna be like i don't know like i'm just not like i don't

01:55:01.840 have like a giant ego you know what i mean so i'm not gonna be like oh he's gonna get to date the

01:55:06.720 baddest bitch around and blah blah blah like to me that's subjective to whatever man i'm dating or

01:55:12.640 whatever man finds interest it's up to him to find those traits in me that he is attracted to

01:55:18.320 too and that's different for everybody wait so

01:55:21.920 how about like i feel like i have like just a different question that kind of would give the

01:55:36.160 same answer like what do you think a traditional man who's dominant who's a provider and all those

01:55:41.760 things you listed would want in a woman did she say i don't know if she said provider although that

01:55:46.000 would be an entailment of being traditional do you want a provider okay so that i'm assuming you

01:55:52.720 want a guy to pay for the first date right to leave you want a guy to pay you would you want

01:55:58.720 a guy to pay for like subsequent dates to uh like provider yeah like i mean i think that comes with

01:56:05.520 the dominant role okay um so you would be submissive then i assume that's what you would bring

01:56:13.280 right so i have a question if you were dating a guy and he told you i want you to stop doing porn

01:56:22.080 would you be submissive and listen to him um if i loved someone absolutely what if you didn't love

01:56:28.080 him then i would not stop i wouldn't you're in a relationship with him i wouldn't be in a relationship

01:56:32.400 you don't love him yet that's that's pointless to me because i'm like if we're not i don't know if i

01:56:39.360 don't love you yet i'm not gonna quit my job for you but somebody can grow to love somebody

01:56:44.480 that's very possible right but i'm not gonna cut off my financials because you told me he's providing

01:56:52.560 right but it's like i don't know like i feel like i would want to be in love with someone for them

01:56:58.640 to like cut off like or at least attraction maybe not love but like attraction to them would you

01:57:03.680 like give it up for them she ain't giving up if she's attracted to a relationship yeah i mean if

01:57:12.640 i'm just attracted like i don't really care but it's like how long does it take for you to fall

01:57:17.040 in love with someone i don't know i haven't been in love okay yeah a week for me so wait the last

01:57:24.560 question i got for you why would a traditional man who had those traditional traits and values

01:57:31.440 want somebody see now i'm understanding like anyway um i'm not saying they would i'm just

01:57:37.360 saying what i like yeah so it's like for me i'm not stupid like i understand what i do as a job i

01:57:43.200 understand the way the world would view that in a negative light or whatever and at the end of the

01:57:48.560 day that was my decision so maybe it's harder for me to find a man that i want but let's circle

01:57:53.520 we're going to circle all the way back now to the original question i asked you do you think that

01:57:58.560 there's going to be any long-term ramifications from you doing corn the response to this was

01:58:05.680 everything except this answer which is that it could definitely have significant problems when it

01:58:12.000 came to the relationship that you would want with a man who had the traits characteristics and values

01:58:16.960 that you're after how come you left that out um i wasn't thinking about that because most of the

01:58:22.560 time when people bring it up you weren't thinking about it well they always bring up oh what is your

01:58:27.440 what about your family what about your children they're not thinking about like oh what about

01:58:32.640 your future relationships you're gonna have children with somebody you're in love with

01:58:37.120 yeah then you want that person to have those values right of course that comes before the kid

01:58:41.520 right of course so if that comes so that comes before the kid there's a step-by-step process here

01:58:47.600 right the type of man that you're after for the values aren't you hamstringing yourself

01:58:52.880 i mean no because i mean at the end of the day if a dude doesn't want me back i'm not gonna chase

01:58:58.960 it like i'm not gonna look stupid but why would a man who had values structured values and was

01:59:04.240 traditional which is what you want why would you want to be with a corn star right i'm not saying a

01:59:10.320 traditional man has to be so how's that not hamstringing yourself well because it's like i grew up in a

01:59:16.720 household that was a christian household sure and so maybe it's just the way i grew up that it's kind

01:59:22.320 of ingrained in me to like certain traits in a relationship i'm not saying that's an indefinite

01:59:29.760 to what i'd be looking for like let's say i find someone and they're not even like that at all but i

01:59:34.400 love them and it works for us that's fine too really you think that you're going to be able to change

01:59:38.960 things like you want to be dominant a provider have traditional values you really think you're going to

01:59:43.280 change your attractive what you're attracted to really i mean if you love somebody yeah andrew can

01:59:48.960 ask your question on this um can a guy be

01:59:55.680 can a guy be dominant and a provider but not be traditional yes yes yes so that's what i mean that's

02:00:02.560 where i i kind of think about this part of me when but but there's an under there's an undercurrent

02:00:08.800 here to look at yes so in other words i'm going to concede that this is logically possible right

02:00:14.480 i don't ever see it though meaning that the types of men i think who who desire to be in those roles

02:00:22.960 generally seem to have a value structure which underpins why they want to be in those roles

02:00:28.480 otherwise what the hell would be the point you just go out and be a promiscuous man whore and hump

02:00:32.640 every chick you saw and lie to them be a scumbag there wouldn't really be any negative ramifications

02:00:38.480 to that so why not do that on the provider front i i do wonder though like if there's like liberal

02:00:47.040 cuck soy boy who's like just you know he's making they nothing precludes a liberal cuck soy boy

02:00:53.040 from making a ton of money so they can fall into the provider role it's not clear if they're

02:00:58.560 the dominant component is a little more questionable but generally but let me ask the counter to this

02:01:04.320 yeah so the liberal cuck soy boy yeah why does he want to fall in the provider role

02:01:12.000 that's a good question maybe well it would occur maybe it's like instinct because like

02:01:17.280 weren't you talking about like male instincts or something earlier like what if it's just like

02:01:21.760 ingrained from where they grew up i would think it would be instinct to not be a liberal cuck soy

02:01:25.440 boy boy too though right that seems instinctual but maybe it's not just purely instinct so if we're

02:01:32.560 backing up though what would be the incentive for somebody who lives in modernity man who lives in

02:01:40.000 modernity makes tons of cash right and um he doesn't see really any value in being a provider when he can

02:01:49.920 just basically go out and hump whatever woman he wants what would be the principle underpinning

02:01:55.120 behind that so you you said you're raising a christian household so you probably assume in your head

02:02:01.280 the way that you think about it is it's supposed to be man woman children devoted wife right head of

02:02:07.600 household husband these are the examples that you see right you know do you know why that becomes

02:02:12.320 ingrained though it's because those are examples that work and so you look your whole life and you

02:02:17.280 look around you and you see all kinds of examples that don't work traditionalism are is it really

02:02:23.200 just the study of experiments that worked that's an experiment that always works it seems to work

02:02:29.200 the best out of every other it didn't work for my parents that doesn't always work yeah right of

02:02:34.400 course not but but even if your parents split that doesn't mean they won't enter into another

02:02:40.320 traditional relationship with other people right so again this is the experiment again seeming

02:02:47.200 to work as it's supposed to even if with these two people it did not work doesn't mean they're

02:02:52.000 not going to look for a reformation for exactly that same kind of relationship again that's the

02:02:58.400 examples that we see that work the most and so that's why we kind of are always looking at them

02:03:02.480 and going okay why does this work so yeah i mean i i don't know like that i don't think that's relevant

02:03:10.240 to like the original point though i think it is because what you're after is you seem to be after

02:03:15.920 all the the values of somebody who has an underpinning ethical system the ethical system being one of

02:03:22.160 the things you value honesty right integrity honor part of that the nature of i provide for a woman i take

02:03:30.480 care of wife wife doesn't have to work right i'll kill myself at the factory every day to make sure the

02:03:37.600 family's taken care of there has to be some kind of underpinning there for for ethics right

02:03:43.520 otherwise why the hell would you do it right yeah so you're saying like saying that absent the ethical

02:03:49.280 part i don't think you get you can arrive at the traditional part i don't think it's easy to arrive

02:03:54.560 there right does that make sense yeah i guess can i add something yeah nobody wants to be a single mom

02:04:02.080 i have a child and i would not be able to do it alone i just got a c-section and i was in the icu

02:04:08.400 for septic shock and you know my boyfriend had to step up and take care of my kid i was literally dying

02:04:15.760 on my deathbed and i had to get blood transfusions everything i don't know how some women do it alone

02:04:22.000 that is like it's sad that you know some women go through it but that's definitely you want a partner

02:04:27.200 that's going to stick by you now i couldn't even put on my own underwear but you got weren't you

02:04:33.600 with this guy for for three months before well no i knew him for a long time before then yeah i know

02:04:40.080 but romantically right romantically yeah we'd hang out in like groups so wasn't that just a gamble

02:04:44.960 um well i guess i took his word for it when he told me that he was serious and he did want a family

02:04:51.120 in a serious relationship and it just so happened that we got along and we have very similar interests

02:04:56.880 so i mean it worked but i mean if you were to take yourself out of your shoes

02:05:01.360 this worked right for you this did work yeah you would never recommend it for somebody else though

02:05:06.800 right honestly i got really lucky i won it because maybe they would end up a single mom right

02:05:14.960 that's what i'm saying is like yeah i understand i understand the principle of what you're saying yeah

02:05:19.600 it's really difficult uh it seems like even it seems like it seems stupid that a woman would

02:05:24.560 actually choose to be a single mom though they do yes um because you're right right it takes there's

02:05:30.320 there's a lot more work involved then well it doesn't take a village but it does take a dad and also

02:05:36.000 like you don't want your child growing up hey mommy and daddy are dating different people that's not a

02:05:42.000 good example you know that's just you know a good example of what though good example of having a

02:05:48.880 traditional household of having yeah under and then ethical underpinnings yeah and then my

02:05:54.720 daughter is going to grow up well my mommy and daddy weren't together so i'm going to go be a single

02:05:58.400 mom right hypothetically you know not my situation i mean that depends how you like view the world

02:06:04.960 though yeah i'm just like i'm working for some people for me personally because i did grow up

02:06:10.480 and in a certain way i'm striving to not have that happen not to be like you know nobody what i

02:06:16.480 you know wait hold on because just as far as like a certain way wait

02:06:23.040 you don't want so you do want to get married one day yeah do you want to have kids absolutely but

02:06:27.600 don't you think simply by virtue of the work that you've done that's going to make it much more

02:06:32.240 difficult to have a stable relationship no impact whatsoever on the it'll definitely have an impact

02:06:39.840 but for me like again as i was saying like well how it doesn't need to be like the concrete like

02:06:46.000 but if it'll definitely but if it'll definitely have an impact wouldn't that have a impact on the

02:06:53.360 likelihood of the relation the success of the relationship no because i'm not going to get

02:06:59.600 married to someone that i have like things like like about my past you know like if you're mad that i did

02:07:06.400 this job you're not the one for me you know but what if it introduces issues down the line in your

02:07:14.000 relationship that materialize years years later or for example this is perhaps one you won't be able

02:07:22.080 to avoid if you said you won't have kids okay what what sort of complications will be introduced

02:07:29.360 into not only your relationship with your partner but your relationship with your children

02:07:34.000 which will invariably introduce issues with your partner if the child is bullied for example because

02:07:40.320 of the work you've done um i mean i'm planning to have kids in like 15 years like i don't know how

02:07:48.400 would they you never know you don't think you never know when you're gonna have videos of you in 15

02:07:52.960 years from now and not only that but they'll be a holographic next week not only that but 15 years from

02:07:59.440 now the father of that child will still be the father and you could choose that father from

02:08:04.960 today and they could be the father in 15 years and i don't think doing the industry that you're in

02:08:11.760 i'm sorry was i not clear i understood what she said okay just keep on keep on

02:08:17.760 no you weren't clear no i'm kidding i can't rephrase it um but and also so the father that you choose

02:08:24.720 now could be the father of your kids in 15 years and the father that you choose most likely won't be

02:08:30.480 a better father while you're in the industry like do you really think you're more likely to get a good

02:08:37.200 man in the industry that you're in or or are you more likely to not get a good man while you're in the

02:08:43.680 industry i mean based off of their argument it would be i'm less likely but what do you think for me like

02:08:52.000 i mean i don't really care like for me like i'm wait no you do care hold on hold on but but you do

02:08:57.600 care because you said that due to your past experiences yourself as a child you said you

02:09:03.520 don't want that for you and you don't want that for your future children correct you said you don't

02:09:08.160 want what happened to your parents to happen to you correct simply by virtue of the work you've done

02:09:14.000 and the work you do it has increased the likelihood that that will be the outcome

02:09:19.440 it's not a guarantee i never denied not a guarantee but it's increased the likelihood

02:09:23.440 right of that yeah i mean that's true and when you have a kid you're going to want to protect them

02:09:29.760 and you know i'll protect my kids but i mean it doesn't have to be in the context of what i used

02:09:34.480 to do for work i mean i i know a lot of girls that i grew up with and their moms were strippers and

02:09:39.840 stuff you know and like no one cared it's just like you like i feel like shaming someone for their past

02:09:47.520 at the end of the day well i mean wait sorry go ahead finish but what i was saying is that shaming

02:09:53.920 people for their past like obviously that's an issue but i i feel like wait why well it's an issue

02:10:02.320 because um like as you were saying like would you date a broke guy a broke guy would you date a broke

02:10:13.840 i have in the past yeah okay was that the question no but would i now absolutely not well so hold on

02:10:21.040 because of a man's perhaps lack of action his current state of affairs he's broke perhaps and

02:10:29.040 this is due in part or in totality to actions or lack of actions he took he took in the past so you are

02:10:36.960 essentially essentially shaming him for his past actions no by not being at a place financially

02:10:44.960 that you deem acceptable in the present but that's not the same as shaming them i'm not shaming you for

02:10:50.160 being broke bro you chicks shamed bills bills bills by destiny's child uh uh tlc no scrubs i don't i have

02:10:59.360 no idea i mean bro you come on hey but does a man want to broke women so i mean don't men don't

02:11:06.240 care what about shaming women for their future

02:11:12.960 like for instance i hear you okay that's fair shouldn't shame me for what i did

02:11:18.720 a week ago right 10 days ago 20 days ago but what if the perception is okay but you're going to do this

02:11:26.640 again tomorrow and next tuesday and next thursday is that okay then to shame or is it just what you're

02:11:33.920 really saying is just not okay to shame people i didn't say it wasn't okay to shame people but in

02:11:38.880 the context of what we were saying which was my job which i'm not the only person in the world that has

02:11:44.880 a controversial job i agree right sure um it's just like what you guys were saying was coming under the

02:11:52.720 context that it would cause an issue i don't even know like i could die tomorrow like and none of

02:11:57.680 this would even matter yeah but what do you know what i meant you know what i mean like but if you're

02:12:01.840 when when you live your life you live your life through risk mitigation whether you think so or not

02:12:08.160 you don't blow through red lights right how come how come you don't blow through red lights for fun

02:12:15.040 illegal you're most likely gonna let's say it was legal

02:12:17.920 would you blow through red lights for fun no why because i would get t-boned oh so you're mitigating

02:12:25.920 risk right right do you want to get into a car that had shaky wheels no no why because it's dangerous

02:12:33.520 and so you're what mitigating risk it's risk you're mitigating risk so you live your entire life mitigating

02:12:40.320 risk doesn't it sound like a little bit of cope to say well it just so happens i'm in this industry

02:12:46.560 which has a high risk associated with it i just don't care about mitigating it i mean couldn't

02:12:52.400 you say the same thing about like police officers or something like that put their life on the line

02:12:57.200 every day like that it's a very safe job very few police officers die yearly sorry but it's like

02:13:02.480 that doesn't relate to the point because i think it does relate to the how well because if we're talking

02:13:07.680 about if we're talking about risk mitigation assume for a second that every single police officer

02:13:14.240 got shot while they were on duty do you think that anybody would want to be a police officer

02:13:19.600 no no probably not right but if you were to have acceptable risk where you go okay almost no police

02:13:26.400 officers actually get shot on duty now that seems like it's not that much of a risky job right however

02:13:32.640 when you're talking about doing corn for instance what do you think the risk likelihoods increase that

02:13:38.560 they don't end up with happy marriages with traditional men i don't know the statistics so

02:13:43.360 i can't say anything if i were to tell you though let's just say i were to tell you a ridiculous number

02:13:49.360 like it's 95 would that even change your mind would you stop doing it tomorrow the truth no no so then it

02:13:57.440 does so then i don't even know why why ask me the question of but i don't know the statistic

02:14:02.640 regardless of what the statistic was if it was 100 you still wouldn't stop right no so then

02:14:10.320 ultimately you're just saying to hell with risk mitigation in this right because i want to

02:14:15.200 fucking do it right right yeah i mean you know it's life you make choices and there's consequences

02:14:21.600 i'm not denying i never denied the consequences i'll say that i'm not like delusional like i i understand

02:14:27.360 i'm not saying you're delusional there is a point you know and there is like a place where you know

02:14:33.360 it might be an issue in my life yeah but what if what if in 10 years though you remember that you were

02:14:38.720 on this random podcast with this asshole who told you who told you don't continue you could stop now

02:14:47.600 and it'll mitigate risk overnight you can just stop you can go get a job as a secretary you go get a job

02:14:53.840 as a car salesman you can go get a job as a as a i don't know fucking stand-in teacher somewhere you

02:14:59.520 can do anything but this and your life's outcome is going to likely be better right wouldn't it be

02:15:06.480 better if when you think about that objectively to not kick yourself in the ass in 10 years and go

02:15:12.560 fuck i should have listened to that guy and instead just quit do anything other than that well if that

02:15:17.840 happens i'll find you and take you out to a nice dinner uh-huh right can i can i say something no

02:15:22.400 you're going to find me and here's what's going to happen i'm going to tell you what's going to

02:15:24.880 happen right 10 years i'll get the phone call and you're going to say man andrew you were so right

02:15:30.640 about this and i'm going to do this i'm going to go i told you dummy right because that's social

02:15:39.760 shaming the hope there is that you'll take that laughter and internalize it and it'll make you

02:15:45.440 seethe with anger so that you'll speak out in 10 years to the next generation and say this didn't

02:15:51.520 work out so well life you know you learn things right yeah i mean it who knows maybe it'll it'll

02:15:58.240 go my way and i'll be i'll call you and be like yo it worked out and laugh in your face maybe i love

02:16:04.800 your opinion just now and i think that you know you're still 19 you're young he you know i think

02:16:10.800 he brings a really good point but i want to ask you something would you date a broke guy

02:16:15.440 mm-hmm if like you could build a life with him like he doesn't have any money right now

02:16:22.000 but hypothetically let's say you get pregnant right and he's like you know i don't have the

02:16:26.080 best job right now but i'm willing to get another job but who knows maybe he's making

02:16:30.400 twenty five hundred three thousand dollars a month would you be okay with dating him

02:16:35.200 um if he's really trying and he does love you well yeah because that shows ambition okay but it's like

02:16:40.480 if you're just a broke man and you have no ambition and you have no plan and you have no like i don't

02:16:46.560 know like again like what i was saying is like like a dominant man if you're not doing anything to

02:16:50.480 improve your life that doesn't attract me i think and i would never get pregnant by a dude that couldn't

02:16:56.800 afford a child but do you know why things can change he can get a job he could say do you know what

02:17:02.080 i need to step it up yeah but you're you're honestly like you're just exing like a bunch of guys that

02:17:09.360 you know could potentially you know you could potentially date there's nothing wrong with that

02:17:14.400 i you know not to get personal you know that's that situation happened with my boyfriend he he

02:17:20.160 couldn't afford a kid he got another job you know and you know i'm a essentially a lot better off than

02:17:27.680 him financially i didn't care but there is guys that you know who cares if they're broke who cares

02:17:32.640 honestly once you have two hundred thousand dollars in cash are you going to care about if a guy is

02:17:37.360 broke seriously does two hundred thousand dollars in your hand mean anything to you would it mean

02:17:42.320 anything to you well i already said that it's not about it make you happy broke it's about their

02:17:47.840 ambitions and there is some people that you know money would make them happy i'm the happiest i've

02:17:52.720 ever been in my entire life having a child and having a family and being a mother i don't give a

02:17:58.080 fudge about money and i've seen that much money in cash easily right so i didn't say i didn't say i cared

02:18:05.280 about money how do you support your kid without money without money yeah you can how would you

02:18:10.160 support your kid without money yes you're saying you don't care about money but how would you support

02:18:13.760 that husband i mean you need money to support a kid but you guys can be a team you guys can build a

02:18:18.800 family together but i'm not doing that like that sounds like a gold digger comment that really does

02:18:24.000 how is that gold digger to want to find someone that wants to be able to provide for the child

02:18:29.920 well i'm not gonna get pregnant if you can if we cannot know but you know why that makes no sense

02:18:34.720 you know why every situation is different every guy is different but if a guy is willing to come up

02:18:39.280 to you and say hey listen i don't care about your past i really don't i want to start a family with

02:18:44.560 you and you know i don't have a bunch of money but i'm willing to step up and get another job are you

02:18:49.840 going to reject him because he maybe has a hundred dollars in his bank account no because he has that

02:18:54.960 thing where he's not and then money doesn't matter he has the ambition to get more money i

02:18:59.920 rather be broke as shit and not have any money in my bank account not have anything to my name

02:19:05.840 and have a loving husband and a child and be a happy family that's what really matters not about

02:19:12.480 being broke or not exactly you can't provide for yourself you have no money yeah but you know what

02:19:16.400 there's assistance out there there really is but i'm not gonna do that after i'm pregnant

02:19:20.640 like that that makes it doesn't matter the point is like there's so many options like i

02:19:25.600 can't even believe some people's like perspective i think the point is like there's so many options

02:19:30.880 you could do before resorting to that to working in that industry that would not have you go through

02:19:36.240 all of those consequences and you're still young and you know that okay there's you could do a lot

02:19:40.720 seriously absolutely and i love that you're humble enough to understand what we're saying to you

02:19:44.880 but for that same reason i would actually shame you more for understanding it and not doing anything

02:19:50.080 about it then if it's her choice yeah but it's not just about like i understand that's your choice

02:19:55.040 but that i'm gonna shame people for their choices because i care about society and i think the worst

02:20:02.880 part of this is the kids like the if you acknowledge that there's consequences with kids i think you're

02:20:07.920 irresponsible if you know that there's going to be some type of consequence or something put on those

02:20:13.040 kids and i remember you said well i have friends that have strippers as like moms or all of that

02:20:17.520 that yeah you don't want that you don't want to raise your kid like that i could argue if we

02:20:21.600 really go in depth that there is consequences but let's say there isn't it sounds very mediocre and i

02:20:28.080 i i don't want to like i just really dislike people who want kids and they're like well it's fine

02:20:34.160 instead of having the intention of i want to do my absolute best not mediocre not well they'll turn out

02:20:40.000 fine they'll have food and and roof over the head they'll have money from what i'm working as

02:20:44.880 not with the intention of i want the absolute best thing for them not just you know you could go to

02:20:52.240 college you could do a lot of things i mean i do want the best for my future you know you're still

02:20:56.240 19 children what she's doing is her decision at the end of the day but she could have better you

02:21:00.960 shouldn't sit here you're a fake friend if you literally sit here and say that it's okay for what

02:21:05.920 she's doing long term she's going to probably have kids one day of course you're still young too so

02:21:10.960 so you might not get it i'm a lot older than i work at a pharmacy so i know what i want to do in

02:21:14.880 life i get it but you shouldn't sit here and condemn what she's doing it's wrong and i will

02:21:19.680 say it right now it's completely your opinion okay well guess what i think you have an only

02:21:24.720 you have an only fan it doesn't matter

02:21:27.600 it's kind of it doesn't matter okay but you're not going to shame me for what i do when you have

02:21:31.520 an only fan but it's not mainstream and you have a child so what about you i'm not doing

02:21:36.320 porn i'm not doing porn seriously at least take your naked body still somewhere on the internet

02:21:41.520 girl i'm sure but it doesn't what i'm trying to tell you is you shouldn't you shouldn't go if you're

02:21:47.680 gonna have a relationship you shouldn't go and fuck guys and then come home and fuck your boyfriend

02:21:52.160 you're disgusting for that if you ever do that i don't have a boyfriend you're literally and that's

02:21:56.400 why you won't get a boyfriend because nobody wants to be with somebody that's going to have sex

02:22:00.800 with multiple guys you probably are going to end up with some type of sti one day and also

02:22:05.360 you're laughing you're next it's in her defense no literally you guys you guys are just immature

02:22:11.200 and honestly this is wrong with society like you guys you have an only fan matter i don't have

02:22:17.840 bitches i can literally shut down my fucking only kids and never have to

02:22:21.520 fucking work again for the rest of my fucking life so shut the fuck up are you gonna touch me

02:22:26.080 i'm not going to touch you seriously you need to stop don't encourage that please don't put your hand

02:22:31.840 in my face yeah i mean we could be calm about it i can delete only fans and never work again in my

02:22:37.120 life because i'm fucking rich that's why go home i'm calm no bitch you go the fuck home i'm calm girl

02:22:44.160 i was just saying that it was it just sounded hypocritical it doesn't matter find better for

02:22:48.640 yourself you're young you have potential seriously i actually had a positive thing for you you are young

02:22:55.360 you are 19 you have a whole life ahead of you go do something better seriously you have the capability

02:23:00.800 i think absolutely i never said that i was gonna have the same job for the rest of my life that was

02:23:05.600 never something i said let's say i find a different interest and you know i feel like i'm not shaming

02:23:10.960 you i actually would like to see you do better and then she's sitting here saying um it's her choice

02:23:15.680 you know you're wrong or whatever i'm judging her right now no i'm literally saying it doesn't

02:23:20.880 it doesn't matter i can shut down my only fans i have a daughter to take care of i don't give a

02:23:24.560 fuck i can shut down my only fans but guess what i'm not going to i'm not going to because it's my

02:23:29.840 choice and there you go i'm not a hypocrite i'm not sitting here and doing porn you're a hypocrite

02:23:36.240 girl at the end i actually do you know what i take back my good advice i hope you literally

02:23:40.720 end up homeless in the street because you won't take good advice here's another thing i will also

02:23:45.360 judge a person for not being calm because the point the point is to to you guys are like young

02:23:53.200 you guys don't get it until you have children you will understand all i was saying is that it was

02:23:58.880 just coming from a place of someone that has an only fan so it doesn't fucking matter i made it in

02:24:03.760 life i made it in life i own a fucking mansion i can do whatever the fuck i want and i fucking manage

02:24:09.040 my properties and collect right the fuck do you do fucking fuck guys so shut the fuck up like you

02:24:14.560 not come for me no i don't i fuck my fucking husband thank you so much not yet he's not your

02:24:19.200 husband no it doesn't fucking matter if you are a child i'm getting married if you are getting married

02:24:25.680 she's not going to understand by yelling if we actually want her to change if you actually care

02:24:29.520 no you guys honestly you guys are going to have a very tough time in life something very tough time

02:24:34.880 all i wanted to say very tough time you're sitting there and laughing very tough time in life i'm a lot

02:24:40.160 older than you guys and also i've done a lot of stuff in my life and i actually tried to be

02:24:44.800 fucking nice to you and say that you have capability you have potential you're sitting here wasting it

02:24:49.280 you could you don't you know you could be a nurse you could do so much you could still be a nurse

02:24:54.240 exactly i could be a nurse at 25 as well nobody's saying take back what you did but you should at

02:24:59.280 least strive to be better so maybe this is a stepping stone you know to get to where you're at but at

02:25:04.720 least have like another plan is what i'm trying to tell you i am not coming after you i'm trying

02:25:10.000 to tell you there is a plan b you're laughing i mean you're you should want better for your friends

02:25:16.640 you should literally want better for your friends don't sit there and laugh where is the line for

02:25:21.200 you though because i feel like like if you have an only fans oh i can do it i already okay how much

02:25:26.640 money have you made on only fans how much money have you made on only fans tell me a fucking number

02:25:30.480 right now how much money have you made i've made half a million dollars and i can prove it on only

02:25:35.600 fans okay i can do whatever the fuck i want out of ten let's drop down to a two yes inside no like

02:25:41.440 anyway and i've been doing social media since 2016 you are 19 at the end of the day do better for

02:25:47.360 yourself you'd even give life a chance you literally went straight into porn you'd even try to do better

02:25:51.600 for yourself read the comment what did you say it doesn't matter at the end of the day because guess

02:25:58.240 why i can do whatever the fuck i want i'm rich as fuck it doesn't both of you no both of you brought

02:26:03.440 up like the stripper thing so like where's the line for you like if i was a stripper would that still be

02:26:08.800 as much of an issue because it's not online or is it just because just one better use that as a

02:26:13.520 stepping stone use it okay if you're doing porn right now okay do you know what i'm i hypothetically

02:26:20.160 if i was you okay i'm doing porn i don't want to do porn in two years right i want to go to college

02:26:25.440 i want to go to you know be a nurse whatever you want to do right use that as a stepping stone

02:26:29.840 and at least have a plan they're laughing what is your plan what is your plan that you're a model

02:26:34.880 no my plan how much money have you made in your life i work monday to friday nine to five i make

02:26:39.680 23 an hour i work 23 what is 23 an hour it's more than all that it's more than yelling supporting my

02:26:45.360 body on only fans being a hypocrite about it i know like i mean more money than all of you

02:26:50.000 only not more than you guys like it doesn't matter and i don't sit here it's giving hater

02:26:54.800 girl it's it's not hater do you know what it's not giving hater i literally said i wanted to see

02:26:59.200 you do better and you can't accept that and you took it as offensive though you met me today you

02:27:03.520 don't know it doesn't matter i actually feel bad for you because you're 19 and you didn't give

02:27:07.680 life a chance you can't decide where you want to get married do you know what do you know what that

02:27:12.480 is a good reason to feel bad for me because i actually want to find out where the

02:27:15.680 fuck i'm getting married to i would like vegas doesn't matter at the end of the day you shouldn't

02:27:20.000 sit here and laugh you don't know me either and i don't know you i don't know you i don't know you

02:27:26.080 but i said it would be nice to see you do better i don't know you're you don't know how i'm doing

02:27:30.320 in life you're a stranger to me exactly where i want but here's the thing you don't ten thousand

02:27:34.320 dollars a month at the end of the day what the hell is that as a person though what is it like how

02:27:39.760 long is that gonna last that will fulfill you in life that's the whole point just just have a

02:27:45.040 all i'm trying to say is figure out how long you want to do this for if it's till you're 25 and then

02:27:50.160 say do you know what i'm gonna save up this much money and this is what i want to do next

02:27:53.840 that's all i'm literally that's perfectly fine i know that is perfectly fine i never said that's

02:27:58.240 what i was trying to say and then she came and she like girl i can change careers whenever i

02:28:02.480 want exactly and no you're choosing to do it and i'm saying that you're still young right

02:28:07.600 find out what you want to do next that's what i'm literally trying to tell you right i never said

02:28:11.360 i could erase the past but it's like if i wanted to change jobs i could do that that's great yeah

02:28:15.760 but for me i don't want to change jobs that's the issue and then you guys go and then let her respond

02:28:22.560 and then you guys go okay thank you go babe right so like from from from what okay before you got mad

02:28:30.800 okay and i'm on my mood stabilizer pill for anybody wondering 25 milligram lamectal girl whatever but

02:28:37.200 i'm trying to tell you that before you popped off on me i was trying to say like where the line

02:28:43.200 was for you because typically you would be in that ulysses the pagan donated 200 that's what i'm

02:28:49.440 saying like no and also

02:28:54.960 all i'm saying is category you're not better than money girl it doesn't matter about having money i

02:29:01.120 actually said i would like the money multiple times you said i'm rich i'm better well i okay

02:29:06.720 personally i'm very fortunate i never have to work again that's my progress okay i want to work again

02:29:12.000 i do music because i love trying to get money i do music because i love music at the end of the day but

02:29:18.160 i i sincerely never have to work again that's my position so when i see other girls actually do have

02:29:24.720 to work i'm like oh my god like so you're mad that i have to work no i'm not mad i i said i would

02:29:30.080 like to see you do better in the future that's it that's literally my point here

02:29:38.400 my point my point is very simple my point is super simple you nothing you said made sense because

02:29:44.480 it was just coming from the someone who was being a hypocrite and then when i'm not doing

02:29:49.600 professional porn but here's the thing you have an only fan earlier you literally said that your

02:29:54.160 naked body pictures are online you can't get rid of them no i literally didn't say yes you did

02:29:59.200 you said i can erase my only fans but doesn't mean i can erase my content yeah that is true you can't

02:30:03.520 erase content off only does are you worried about you know your kid finding that no but there's ways

02:30:08.160 to get it right why should i be worried about my kid finding it i don't know your financial

02:30:14.080 situation you might not be a millionaire moving forward all i'm saying if you are congratulations

02:30:19.520 you two all i'm saying is have a backup plan you might have to work until you're whatever

02:30:26.800 years old i don't have to work again so i can really do whatever i want when i see 19 year

02:30:34.320 olds literally going straight into porn and not did you go to university i went to mississippi

02:30:38.480 state university i did college first i tried first before i had an only fans but it didn't work out

02:30:43.280 right that's why you did only fans well guess why i'm a mother so i can do whatever the

02:30:46.560 fuck i wanted i have almost a million followers what do you have how many followers do you have

02:30:51.920 you have a thousand followers i have my instagram you have a thousand followers i have almost a

02:30:56.000 million followers i've been doing this for a long time okay i was one of the first live stream

02:31:01.520 groups okay okay and i was also on television so here's the thing when i was your guys's age i went to

02:31:09.040 university i didn't go straight to only fans where did university get you do you know where it got

02:31:17.200 me where it didn't get me anywhere

02:31:23.040 i don't use my university i don't use that came up to me and said you should you know what i don't

02:31:29.040 but i don't have to work what if you go to college maybe you might have to work unless you become a

02:31:34.720 millionaire overnight how do you become a millionaire it doesn't matter everything that you were saying

02:31:39.600 and i'm not a millionaire i'm almost okay all i'm saying is i might not have to use my degree i might

02:31:46.320 not have to do any of that but you know you could you could do a lot of stuff right you know what i i

02:31:51.040 can't be positive with you because you take everything the wrong way i can't you here's

02:31:57.200 the thing you guys knew each other coming in so obviously you know you're gonna put your two cents

02:32:01.760 in it doesn't matter you're gonna put your two cents in for a week i literally defended her

02:32:05.840 just gerald donated two hundred dollars okay no one cares how much okay i don't care at the end of

02:32:13.200 the day there you go i feel bad for your child i don't know who's on your side right now i don't

02:32:18.000 give a fuck you what okay what do you have are you do you have money do you have followers what

02:32:23.840 the fuck do you have what do you have i'm 20 years old i'm literally when i was 20 years old guess

02:32:29.040 where i was living i was living in a fucking penthouse in west hollywood what the fuck are

02:32:32.560 you doing at 20 years i pay for my own rent i pay for my own car i have my dog congratulations if you

02:32:37.040 literally have a 20 you make 23 an hour and i'm 23 23 an hour guys viewers 23 an hour like that's

02:32:47.040 going to get you and you're really trying to take control so aggressive because you're better

02:32:52.960 than her we get it make your good luck on 23 an hour is what i'll say making that for the rest of

02:33:01.360 your life we'll see where that gets you to even have a you don't need to diss people

02:33:04.240 you have no retirement fund i bet you guys are you guys can't even afford a pill where's the mood

02:33:17.200 stabilizer it's in my body and guess what you guys have no you guys have no retirement fund you guys

02:33:23.600 you guys are going to be losers for the rest of your life i'm 19 because i don't need retirement

02:33:26.560 fun there's going to be losers for the rest of your life okay but what is your point so you're

02:33:31.200 saying that it's a problem that she has an honest living making 23 an hour at a normal job i don't

02:33:36.080 care that's an issue it's an issue for fans and it's an issue for porn but what is your point like

02:33:41.520 all i'm trying to say is see you're mad is because i use my brains to get money while you had to use your

02:33:46.160 body to get money oh okay that's what i was also on youtube and tiktok and i was number one for

02:33:50.800 comedy exactly you're not even funny you're boring that's why you're starting up with me and you know

02:33:55.840 i have followers i'm starting up with me because you saw that i had a lot of followers do you not

02:34:02.240 know who i know i don't care you're irrelevant to me i promise i don't care i don't care stop starting

02:34:09.840 up with me and shot okay uh okay we got your mic for 10 minutes that's a 10 minute that's a 10

02:34:18.720 minute next to maddie oh wow he really wants uh okay all right you guys can pick it up in 10 minutes

02:34:24.800 i guess uh i'll read a couple chats here that was that was eventful um sometimes it's best to just uh

02:34:32.160 let let that play out you know and andrew you need a smoke or all right andrew needs a smoke

02:34:37.840 i need to smoke after i was very popular for being a live streamer a long time ago because

02:34:44.000 i said isn't her microphone muted yeah yeah so anyways it's not always a good thing okay wait

02:34:49.600 stop okay stop stop pick it up in 10 minutes just stop three dollars an hour everyone congratulations

02:35:00.320 it should not be just like mute and mic but that person can't talk oh fail okay

02:35:08.480 i want to see where you're at in 10 years okay hold on hold on you cannot talk to me

02:35:12.800 so so yeah yeah you got to stop talking so if you've never seen it is not fair that i came here

02:35:20.640 for you to be young about your opinion if you have if you have have made a hundred thousand dollars

02:35:25.360 she's a troll show it right now i will sit here and i'll debate with you if you don't have a hundred

02:35:29.440 thousand accounts right now i don't give a fuck about what you got to say okay can you can you stop

02:35:33.840 talking we gotta move this okay we'll move it okay put the cuckoo back in the clock for a minute

02:35:42.640 okay i'll calm down please all right so uh lol paladins i'm gonna read a couple chats here

02:35:51.600 she's malleable women will become whatever the man they are attracted to once goth prep actually maddie

02:35:56.240 can you read these goth preppy emo she's still a blank slate good sign she hasn't been alpha widowed

02:36:03.360 this is in response to you i so it's towards me yes huh that's a compliment right

02:36:15.040 kill of cereal that was bs i demand you replay my 200 tts she yelled all the way through it no one

02:36:19.840 cares you still show your body off online so you're cheating on your husband emotionally that is true i

02:36:24.720 should replay it because you guys uh yeah i mean you know that's what they think i really don't

02:36:29.520 care yeah can you stop talking killer of cereal donated 200 my tv volume is at 10 out of 100 and

02:36:39.920 she's making it sound like it's at 50 you really trying to take control of this life lesson so

02:36:46.320 aggressive because you're better than her we get it make your blank blank blank uh killed cereal thank

02:36:53.680 you man appreciate it sorry you know they were in the middle of their little squabble or whatever

02:36:58.720 we also have another one from kill of cereal here

02:37:03.840 good to see andrew in person i'm now a crucible fan and good to see you again brian question for

02:37:08.720 the panel what is the most embarrassing moment you've experienced on a date i praise almighty

02:37:13.440 let me just get through the chats killer but i promise you i'm going to write that down i'm going to

02:37:17.840 just say most embarrassing moments and we will go around the panel in just a moment on that

02:37:23.040 once i get through all the other chats we have mac daddy first time donating i listen every day

02:37:30.240 andrew's reactions are sending me right now as a 22 year old woman these other young females are

02:37:35.360 embarrassing please get a real job the military has enlistment bonuses the military all right mac daddy

02:37:41.760 hey thank you for the message man appreciate your patronage uh thank you thank you for joining the

02:37:45.840 stream and then we do have is there a backlog or there's quite a backlog okay i'll read this one

02:37:53.600 maddie can you read it what would happen when the law changes or school policies now ban any of content

02:37:59.600 creators from schools aka you can't pick up your kid go to their graduation and you likely be single

02:38:05.040 the rest of your life is the money you've made today worth it short answer no great question

02:38:11.760 that's do you want to respond to that i mean it's just a hypothetical thing so i mean i mean just to

02:38:18.640 be i don't think that that would happen to be honest yeah no i don't think it would happen so uh

02:38:24.800 but uh yeah avalos thank you for the a hundred dollars super gem man really appreciate it but if it did

02:38:31.040 happen if it did happen would it be worth it the money if i had a kid no okay all right and uh

02:38:40.720 uh i have nick i have a bunch in my stream yard that aren't showing up in over there uh here let

02:38:48.880 me did you pull this one up uh no i don't believe can you is there another one here i'll uh there's this

02:38:58.880 one these are below the read threshold but i'm not jealous i'm not jealous to anyone i love my

02:39:08.080 mic your mic's muted hold on uh my mic is muted yeah that's why they that's why they're telling you

02:39:14.480 like yeah they paid to meet your mic that's why we're saying like your mic is not working so like

02:39:18.880 but you didn't get those previous ones you might have to do a refresh it was like for 10 minutes

02:39:24.400 uh so just tied the stream yard there so basically they can't hide it in there and then sorry guys

02:39:30.640 we're just refixing uh andrew's coming back if you want to oh no someone actually like paid to do it

02:39:39.120 yeah uh so this would be a good time to um once andrew's back we're gonna who this is

02:39:49.040 get into our next topic here um i know you had some pre-show notes though before we move on from

02:39:54.240 some of this stuff uh pull up your notes it's joe joe lee right yes you said that uh you're confident

02:40:05.520 arguing against sex workers only fans in the porn industry you're hugely against it and can get fired

02:40:10.720 up for it you have also well that's something else um so what's your arguments against sex work

02:40:18.560 i just believe that it's i think everything's a slippery slope to what's going to happen in

02:40:25.280 society and i think every detail matters i think something like that isn't a small thing it's a huge

02:40:33.120 way you're not contributing to society in fact you're doing the opposite you're downgrading society

02:40:39.040 when you're doing that is what i believe and i understand that could be controversial but the main

02:40:46.320 thing is i think parents who are in that industry are more likely or statistically not going to raise

02:40:55.680 better children than the people that aren't in that industry for multiple reasons one the person that

02:41:03.760 is in the industry is more likely to be in that industry for a reason second the partner that they

02:41:09.760 choose to choose to have children with and reproduce with um is most likely also not going to be the ideal

02:41:17.040 partner to raise a child with third um there's going to be um there's a more possibility for that child to grow

02:41:26.320 up with shame um we've seen example examples of this already on social media uh children speaking out of how

02:41:34.960 embarrassed they are because of the industry that their parents or mother works in um so yeah i just i

02:41:44.080 think it's irresponsible and i um i think one of the greatest contributions to society is how you raise a

02:41:54.720 child and paying attention to even the partner you choose to make that child with and all of those other

02:42:01.920 things i mentioned do you agree with her yes um i don't agree but i'm tired after the yelling like

02:42:10.240 i'm just like i don't even i'm like i wish we could talk about that before the yelling i i really yeah

02:42:18.320 i really appreciate like how humble you are about it um i truly care like i really do care about

02:42:25.200 society i i really care for the world to be a better place which is why i would never yell at you

02:42:30.320 because i know that's not how i'm going to get to you or change your mind i genuinely care about like

02:42:36.320 you understanding yeah no i appreciate um i appreciate um which is why i also like i was i

02:42:43.840 thought we were cool but now i'm just like i'm like no like that's annoying like

02:42:52.400 it seems like a person just wants to argue rather than actually help right right

02:42:56.880 you're looking at me okay uh really quick question i know you guys is it unmute yet or no

02:43:07.200 is it unmute is she has it been 10 no it's like one minute one minute on the unmute uh this would

02:43:15.520 be a good opportunity for us to say guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash whatever

02:43:21.440 drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one and guys it's been

02:43:27.680 five minutes since we last caught the prime i'm pretty sure it's bugged can somebody like test it

02:43:31.360 out help test it out boy oh there it is trump trumbull thank for the prime subinov thank for the prime

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02:44:37.440 we we it's been in the works for six months guys um and uh yeah be sure to check it out we also have a

02:44:44.160 also a membership debate university.com and andrew any thoughts on any other additions uh yeah i have

02:44:51.440 some questions oh i meant with the debate oh debate yeah uh well we spent a long time on it months

02:44:57.360 constructing it again about uh seven and ten uh dms that i get and i get hundreds and hundreds of them

02:45:04.320 are in regards to how can i um how can i get my skills in debating up so we made this course for you

02:45:10.080 and i do also want to say i mean this is not we didn't just take a week slap together an ebook

02:45:16.560 a pdf these are high quality videos video content not just some slap together pdf or whatever so uh and

02:45:24.240 also quite frankly if you don't buy this course you won't know how to proceed in life so uh one question

02:45:32.000 for you and then i'll pass it over to andrew so yeah you're unmuted nick okay so you guys had a

02:45:40.880 bit of a back and forth a heated exchange about the fact that she's involved in porn uh isn't that

02:45:46.640 precisely what you do no i'm not like having sex on camera you've never done that i mean privately

02:45:53.520 but there's no like you've never done bg content no okay all right but that's my choice i mean so

02:46:01.920 can you confirm something for me yeah so somebody sent me a text i know i guess it's familiar with your

02:46:07.760 work and you can my work your work okay well it has gotten leaked before because i have gotten a leak

02:46:14.720 but it was like against my will and that person is actually getting investigated by the fbi and

02:46:19.360 facing six months in prison nice so yeah laugh all you want he lives in seattle his name's sam he's

02:46:25.280 55 years old and he will be going to prison oh i didn't know any of that fbi hi hi my special agent

02:46:32.960 that well the message i got said this and you can just yeah you can confirm or deny but yeah i guess

02:46:38.320 you were on a live stream and gave somebody a blowy is that right no no no no a live stream i've only

02:46:45.920 done um adam ice poseidon a long time ago and then i've done my own live streams but no it never gave

02:46:53.760 it i don't look i don't know the context i'm just asking that's not true okay yeah i i if it was true

02:46:59.760 i will sit here and i will stand on it so what what about their argument i was actually trying to be

02:47:06.080 positive and trying to say hey you're 19 when i was 19 i was in university why not you know try

02:47:13.360 something to do better you know but you ended up there's there's 18 and 19 year olds that don't

02:47:18.400 even give their life a chance that just jump straight into it it's like you know why don't

02:47:22.320 you try to you know when i was 18 i worked at mcdonald's yeah truth well hang on hang on let me ask my

02:47:26.880 second question yeah all right so you can confirm this for me or deny it is this the only child you

02:47:31.680 have is with this guy yeah i can't have any more children okay um like medically yeah okay so then i'll die

02:47:37.840 that's so that's all good that's the only one you have that's the only child i have okay great okay

02:47:43.440 but so i just wanted to just wanted to clarify i unfortunately cannot have any more children okay

02:47:48.640 so so now they made essentially their argument to you is how's a prostitute calling me out on

02:47:55.840 prostitution that's the argument essentially yeah i mean i'm not a prostitute i have an only fans but

02:48:01.360 i've also i've made a lot more money than these girls sitting right here so do you know what even

02:48:06.960 you know people in my family then why have the only fans to keep an only fans because it generates

02:48:12.320 more income why just sit in my house all day and just live off my savings i could do that but

02:48:17.920 eventually you know that money's gonna run out maybe like in 10 15 years whatever it may take so

02:48:23.120 wait a second you're rich but you have i also spend 32 000 in a month well how much do you make on

02:48:30.000 your only fans and it doesn't matter i don't i don't want to say exact as a percentage of your

02:48:35.440 income but you're a millionaire no i'm not a millionaire i said close to you but i'm saying

02:48:40.640 if i sat at my house all day and just said okay i'm gonna live off my savings okay and i just had

02:48:46.560 a c-section i can't like hypothetically if i were to work it's gonna be hard and you know i just had

02:48:53.760 the baby a month ago so i mean i can't really like so but i mean if you're if you're making

02:48:59.120 excuses to do sex work how can you lecture people for making excuses when they're doing sex work i

02:49:03.680 mean they're young so i was i had a you're fucking young you're 26 i'm almost 30 yeah 30 you're not

02:49:10.720 walking around with a walker grandma right so what's going on here but i mean you know i consider myself

02:49:16.960 old unfortunately so when i see like young girls i'm like you know you should have at least given

02:49:21.360 it a chance you know yeah no okay i understand but what is the actual reputation to you're a

02:49:28.880 prostitute yeah but so i'm not a prostitute hang on hang on listen to what i'm saying okay do i

02:49:33.920 is there guys that give me money let me finish what would the refutation be to you're a prostitute no

02:49:41.200 you're a prostitute and you're both prostitute what would add the actual refutation i mean if you want

02:49:45.680 to get technical i do want to get technical i love technicality yes there is an only fans that i

02:49:50.880 have and there's pictures on there which you sell yes which i sell but how is that not prostitution

02:49:58.880 because there was playboy back then it just that would be prostitution to do playboy so playboy's

02:50:04.160 prostitution i don't agree with that why what would be the distinction i mean they're making like the

02:50:12.240 choice to do that so are so are hookers they're making the choice to do that i am not the same

02:50:17.040 as a prostitute why what's the distinction i'm not having sex with people why would that oh wait so

02:50:22.480 wait hang on so let me get this right but prostitute i have sex with one prostitute goes up to a guy's

02:50:27.680 room yeah right and he she just dances naked for him and he jerks off to it she's not a prostitute

02:50:33.840 yeah that is the prostitute yeah yeah that's still a prostitute so hang on hang on hang on it's

02:50:40.560 online let's track the logic here but hypothetically i really don't have to have one but i don't want

02:50:46.960 to go you're just filibustering you're filibustering because you don't want to go broke i own a house

02:50:51.440 filibustering so let me finish it let me finish it the the question great i'm never going to let you

02:50:56.880 evade no matter how much you filibuster you're gonna have to answer many millionaires that have

02:51:01.200 only fans bella thorne daniel brugoli bad baby there's many celebrities so when you get

02:51:07.120 it when you get a total obfuscation so listen because i want to finish what she said

02:51:11.040 many millionaires are only fans honey many millionaires okay so finish finish this way okay

02:51:16.720 maybe you've made nothing maybe you've made a couple thousand dollars congratulations

02:51:20.560 i thought you were making the argument because um no i'm replying to what she said

02:51:28.480 she said if you're she said if you have money then why are you at only fans yeah i know but

02:51:32.400 you're telling her like oh like give it a shot like yeah give it a shot go go work a normal job go

02:51:37.680 give it a shot i am i work at a pharmacy i'm not talking about you i'm talking about having a normal

02:51:44.320 job okay well then don't just me and i won't just you for making 23 dollars an hour

02:51:48.400 don't diss me when you make 23 dollars an hour next she just i'm giving it a shot i'm giving it

02:51:55.440 a shot like you said i'm giving it i wasn't referencing you don't be a hypocrite please

02:52:00.720 okay hang on i can do whatever i want at that end so nothing so let me so let me no it doesn't

02:52:06.160 apply because the difference is you guys have to work for the rest of your life and i don't

02:52:09.280 do you know what if i actually flip my real estate i'm good and then i keep buying condos

02:52:18.720 i could do that and buy houses you don't have the ability to do that you don't have the ability

02:52:22.960 to do that that's really good but you don't have the ability to do that for you don't tell me what

02:52:26.560 to do with my life and what i do for my family simple i can sell my house and go buy two condos

02:52:33.120 that's good and then i can buy a condo at the fucking trump tower so let's start there all right

02:52:38.720 great yeah i am hang on i could do real estate for the rest of my life you're going to be stuck

02:52:43.120 making 23 dollars an hour and you're going to be a fucking sitting here and fucking complaining

02:52:47.520 23 dollars an hour that's really good that's pretty good no it's poverty you can't so do you

02:52:52.640 know why if she had a kid good i don't have a kid i'm saying hypothetically if you had a kid

02:52:56.880 good luck's trying to support you and your kid girl i supported an entire family on less than

02:53:02.560 that but okay yeah so so anyway well it's gonna be uncomfortable if you live in california so i'll

02:53:08.480 start there i did it in a very expensive place also but did you have a partner to help you no she

02:53:14.560 stayed at home took care of my kids but you're also a man period what would the hell do you get

02:53:20.960 typically get paid more and you probably have a college education if you're a woman making 23

02:53:24.960 an hour that's less money than when a man makes 23 maybe i don't know how much 23 an hour is because

02:53:31.280 i don't work because like i said just better no do you know why i can go and buy property and

02:53:36.560 continue to sell it i already bought a house and i'm comfortable with the house renting it out and

02:53:41.040 collecting my money every month okay so let's back up to this conversation because i'd like to finish it

02:53:46.160 yeah if these girls just don't want to stay next to these people hang on they're long they're fine

02:53:52.320 right why are you hating look at you you're a fucking hater look at your face seriously what

02:53:58.160 is what you're talking to me put some fucking respect if you give me respect i'll give you

02:54:03.120 respect but you have no respect i just said i'm proud of you nothing yeah you're being

02:54:07.360 fucking sarcastic come on let's be real all right let's be real okay how would there actually be

02:54:13.040 if if you want to go i will put this out you said that you're a debater i won best

02:54:17.680 are you a filibuster let's bring it

02:54:20.000 better than you so don't fucking come after me i've been doing social media since 2016 i have

02:54:34.800 almost a million followers i've worked my ass off for where i'm at now bye i didn't get everything

02:54:41.360 fucking handed to me in the beginning but you're still a prostitute i'm not a prostitute

02:54:48.480 how is that not prostitution it's online there's a difference between actually going around and

02:54:53.280 having sex and getting money with other people why when i gave you the example did you say that

02:54:57.600 was still a prostitute it's i'm saying online but you don't have to leave your house you don't

02:55:01.840 have to meet up with anyone why would that matter because that is a real prostitute by definition

02:55:06.400 that is a prostitute no a prostitute is somebody who sells sexual favors for money you can get

02:55:10.400 arrested for being a literal unless you're no unless you're in nevada right then he can't

02:55:14.880 be arrested then he can work legally that's actually that's uh that's the ranch it's like

02:55:18.720 an hour so you can so you can work legally as a prostitute you can in nevada what is the actual

02:55:22.960 distinction here it doesn't matter the difference it doesn't matter listen wait wait wait can i

02:55:27.520 finish can i finish okay listen the difference between me the difference between me can i talk no can

02:55:37.280 i can i talk can anybody else talk or is it nobody going to be here

02:55:41.760 and then i never have to work again

02:55:46.240 and you have your time i'll let you have your moment difference between me and other people

02:55:55.760 i don't have to work by the neck like the little dog i'm sorry

02:55:58.800 i like i like my face too much to get hit i've never lost a fight

02:56:05.360 okay that's okay what the yeah i have money but i i could be a little ghetto okay let's bring it

02:56:12.240 my family's from new jersey that's i'm from new jersey too i'm not acting like you well guess what

02:56:17.200 i'm a little trash i don't care guess what i'm a little trash and guess what you're much trashier

02:56:24.480 than me honey you're a fucking porn star one prostitute to another

02:56:31.440 she's having sex on camera for money with multiple men and then trying to get a

02:56:35.120 fucking boyfriend good luck on the internet it doesn't matter i'm not having sex with multiple

02:56:41.040 men i'm not i don't give a fuck do you know what i don't care you're trying to be against me let's go

02:56:46.640 right now i'm do you want me to come out against you i don't give a

02:56:50.160 fuck if you're against me you're broke too shut the fuck up okay at least she's pretty shut up

02:56:58.080 i actually use my degree i didn't get a degree in liberal arts okay i didn't get

02:57:02.320 it i got a degree in marketing so let's start there what happened what happened

02:57:10.080 to do any of that you want to insult my looks like your fucking look shut the

02:57:14.240 fuck up i may be broke but i have the class enough to have a man to provide for me i don't

02:57:19.200 my man does actually provide for me i do help with the rent because i have

02:57:22.800 the financial because i'm renting a place in california but i own property in nashville

02:57:27.280 tennessee stop it i do whatever i want get some help i really don't care i just i have

02:57:31.360 i don't care until you have a hundred thousand dollars in cash i don't want you to fucking talk to

02:57:36.160 me okay bring me a hundred thousand dollars in cash why are you yelling you can say shit to me

02:57:42.080 okay you two hundred thousand hundred thousand you can't do it so shut the

02:57:46.720 fuck up out of ten i feel like you're playing the bit if none of you have that much money you're not

02:57:51.280 richer than me i want you to shut the fuck up what does that have to do if you are not richer than me

02:57:56.640 i want you to shut the fuck up and don't do you know that scene in dance moms where it's like get

02:58:00.720 your finger out of my phone do you know what i don't give a fuck you guys think it's all funny

02:58:05.840 you're gonna end up fucking homeless in the streets i don't know what the fuck's gonna happen to you

02:58:09.600 good luck with your thank you fucking 23 dollars an hour thank you shut the fuck up why you're still

02:58:14.880 gonna be broke she's so nice she's just like why oh girl you're better than me because anybody

02:58:20.240 talk to me like that okay enough coming for me let's go to the next topic and let's choose another

02:58:27.440 topic i'm just no let's keep coming for you let's keep going i do you know what no i don't know what

02:58:35.840 what that's it that's it to yourself you're literally on their podcast yeah you're on their

02:58:45.680 podcast trying to talk to me you can't talk to me i'm sure they have a lot of money okay then why

02:58:51.600 are you trashing them you're on their podcast you're in their chair you're in their property

02:58:55.120 well i mean humble yourself i don't i don't have a lot of money humble yourself okay well

02:58:59.920 do you know what it doesn't matter but i'm still not a prostitute okay i just want to point that out

02:59:07.040 at that point whatever it doesn't matter all right a little more popcorn here for that one

02:59:12.160 that was that was good i thought the popcorn was i already knew people were gonna come out

02:59:16.080 i thought it was fake until you started eating it you know i would have given you some popcorn i asked

02:59:20.960 you for some oh yeah yeah i know you did but you've been a brett well you did deal with some

02:59:24.880 shit i'll give you some popcorn can we both have some maybe you should try that not you what poison hands

02:59:32.800 it's tainted i can't eat that first of all i don't put my hand in it

02:59:37.200 i only touched the one kernel

02:59:38.560 wow quiet crickets let's go i'm ready who wants to come after me now well okay so here's how let's

02:59:49.600 go let's go bitches okay so hold on you're actually so sweet you're so sweet you're so cute do me a

02:59:54.800 favor so because the way that this podcast yeah you got to stop talking if somebody else is talking

03:00:00.080 whether it's me whether it's none of us okay sl underscore i dot d dot underscore f9 r2 c zero

03:00:08.000 ff 17 a three thousand five i might be crazy i'll give you the crazy i'll give it to him too

03:00:16.560 when you actually i might be a little crazy you don't care about simple things like this broad is

03:00:21.360 losing her mind over she's absolutely broke insecure and crazy okay thank you definitely

03:00:28.160 crazy i'll give you that i appreciate it uh so look for this podcast to work if somebody else is

03:00:33.520 talking you can't be interrupting you gotta let them finish andrew was trying to multiple times

03:00:41.040 arrive at asking you a question and you would just immediately divert to attacking one of them too

03:00:46.480 so if i'm talking and just anybody's talking let them finish their thing you can respond and then

03:00:51.840 we can have a uh hopefully civil conversation except for her she took my popcorn i didn't

03:00:57.920 rude yeah that was fucking rude rude maddie can you pass the popcorns back over i only took one

03:01:03.120 just pass both of them back over one too many uh why don't i read a couple of chats here while

03:01:07.440 we're uh actually maddie uh here you read these maddie just pass them next to andrew is an ideal

03:01:13.200 partner she is smart logical and understands long-term effects woke virus is grooming

03:01:18.640 she also just seems to genuinely be a nice person congress passed laws to help prevent

03:01:22.640 sexuality of kids uh just watch because parents care about all right avalos thank you for the

03:01:28.160 super chat man appreciate it this lady talking about money in homes is extremely insecure it couldn't

03:01:34.800 be more obvious all right pelagic thank you for the 200 super chat okay um normally i would ask if you

03:01:41.840 want to address that but i'm a little uh yeah so thank you pelagic appreciate the soup chat man guys

03:01:51.680 like the video like the video if you're enjoying the stream now um i don't know andrew if you want

03:01:58.400 to continue on with i do want to continue on so um a couple a couple of critiques so you critique her

03:02:05.600 over here you are not actually a sex worker correct no okay can i ask you do you think you're better

03:02:12.320 than a sex worker no because i have friends who are in that that's too bad i was hoping you would

03:02:17.920 say yes and then i was going to be like awesome credit words to do uh so just backing up though you

03:02:24.000 you do have a regular job i do yes monday to friday so can i ask you what were you even going off on

03:02:29.440 her about her because she stepped in yeah to say that it's say that it's hypocritical

03:02:35.920 for you for you a prostitute no actually i actually had good intentions with her i was

03:02:41.120 actually trying to be positive but they don't you know they're 19 they don't know any better

03:02:45.440 so you know that's just what it is if she wants to step in i'm gonna attack that's how it is if i

03:02:51.360 if she stepped in i attacked her so let's go well it occurs to me that you were kind of the aggressor

03:02:56.640 and the belligerent i can be the aggressor i don't care don't start up with me i'll end it

03:03:01.840 no but i mean like i don't it seems you kind of just started going off yeah you know look me up

03:03:08.800 go watch my old youtube streams with cx network you'll see me going off all the time i have more

03:03:14.000 time to do okay nobody's asking you because nobody gives a fuck about you but i mean i mean

03:03:18.640 you are a loser keep that in mind i feel i feel like now i feel like now i think it's performative and

03:03:25.120 it's a bit i think you're just doing no i'm not i'm not doing it i'm not doing a bit i'm i'm

03:03:30.000 honest i don't give a fuck no you're doing a bit about me you're doing a bit you know what it's

03:03:34.080 not a bit it's a i don't care it's a bit they come after me i'm going 10 times harder at them

03:03:40.720 okay that's how it is you come after me harder out i'm going 10 times harder than them and i'm

03:03:45.840 not gonna stop beef is for life so let's go beef is for life i don't have beef with you okay

03:03:51.120 then don't fucking have beef with me period end of story anybody wants to smoke come on right now

03:03:56.880 i'll catch you outside that's my catch me outside i'm not trying to be like that but seriously if

03:04:03.360 anybody wants to do something actually i just had a c-section so technically i can't fight right now

03:04:09.120 but you know if i was 100 healthy it would be a fucking different story if you were two decibels

03:04:14.400 louder would your scar explode okay well my scar is technically still open it's healing you know

03:04:21.840 that was very traumatic maybe you should calm down that high blood pressure down yeah you know i'm

03:04:26.080 probably sure you know whatever i will give it to the chat that said i'm crazy yeah i'm

03:04:30.560 fucking crazy and i don't give a fuck how about that and dumb i'm not dumb i'm definitely not dumb

03:04:36.480 are you sure i'm 138 iq i'm not dumb you don't have 138 iq you can't count to 138

03:04:44.400 who are you to say that i'm that i'm dumb well just i went to university oh i went to university

03:04:51.600 what'd you do and the money no she said she didn't get anywhere with it incredible marketing

03:04:56.080 yeah you didn't do anything i didn't do anything with my degree and that's my choice i never have

03:05:00.160 to that doesn't sound very smart sounds kind of dumb why don't you focus on that i never have to

03:05:04.960 work again you focus on working i'm 20 years old it doesn't matter i still got my whole life you're

03:05:10.000 gonna stay where you're at right now i promise you first of all i got i got a two dollar raise

03:05:14.240 last week two dollars an hour okay i'll throw that two dollars an hour in your fucking face bye wait i

03:05:19.280 have like a genuine question for you like i please don't attack me it's just a genuine question like

03:05:25.040 i don't do it maddie it's a trap no i'm just you know i'm gonna yeah no i understand like you work

03:05:30.960 you say that uh you don't have to work for the rest of your life like what's stopping you from

03:05:35.520 stopping only fans and just putting all your time into honestly raising your child that's what i'm

03:05:40.320 to be honest i love money and me and my dad had this talk would be stupid for me to shut down my

03:05:45.440 only fans oh your dad's in favor yeah okay so my dad wants you to do all my dad said that you've made

03:05:51.360 a lot of money and you need to keep going i said i can shut it down he goes that would be the most

03:05:55.040 retarded what didn't you say you didn't care about money like all you care about is having a happy

03:05:59.360 family yeah i do but i love i don't get it i don't get it unless you're rich yeah don't talk to me

03:06:04.880 unless you're 100 000 that's okay but the year before like i don't care if i'm broke as long as

03:06:08.640 i have my family well do you know what at the end of the day hypothetically if that were to happen

03:06:12.720 no realistically not hypothetically hypothetically if that were to ever happen i would still be okay

03:06:18.400 i used to be broke when i was your guys's age and i was just i thought you were doing so much at our

03:06:22.560 age no 19 19 your age i was living in a penthouse when i was your age and literally just started

03:06:29.600 everything i was really broke because working i had worked at mcdonald's and i was like what 18 19

03:06:34.640 and then went to university i live in my own house with my two roommates i'm roommates congratulations

03:06:39.760 thank you thank you they're actually my friends roommates they're my friends you can't afford the

03:06:43.760 full rent so you have no i can all right all right she has roommates guys that's all you need to

03:06:48.960 know about her and i love them she has roommates and she makes 23 an hour literally we're gonna

03:06:54.880 start it like that who the who the fuck said that me you said that shut the fuck up you can shut the

03:06:59.840 fuck up too what's up what's up bitch you want to say something come say it to me i've been talking

03:07:07.280 shut the fuck up you're a fucking clout chasing hoe that's why you're on here and guess what that's

03:07:12.240 you that's right i already have followers i'm on next question i'm taking yeah next question

03:07:17.680 cloud chasing hoe that's you honey that's why you're doing porn professional porn and you can't

03:07:22.560 get a boyfriend you do too much you cannot get a boyfriend because nobody wants to fuck you after

03:07:26.640 you just fucked five guys they and come home nobody wants to do that you literally yeah if you send

03:07:32.480 other guys your nudes that's okay you know why i don't give a fuck it's on the phone at the end of

03:07:40.400 the day i don't even know you got you guys like that so it doesn't even matter i'll never see you

03:07:44.720 guys again in my life great lucky yeah yeah great exactly what would you think about your future

03:07:52.480 husband if he told your daughter that it was okay for her honestly he's not okay with her donated 500

03:08:01.440 nope shut up yelling psycho you have nothing of value to say i feel bad for your child what an awful

03:08:09.600 mother you're going to be i will come after you right now oh do not talk to her like that you

03:08:14.560 know i can actually sue for that if you want to talk about sue i can actually sue for that that's a

03:08:18.400 threat so i can actually say wait did they like mute her again or something i guess they muted me

03:08:24.240 yeah you're muted um just gerald thank you for the um thank you for the mute appreciate it um 10 minutes

03:08:32.720 10 minute mute i don't need to talk to these people all right i'm gonna get you probably don't

03:08:38.560 need to talk to any people you're a drama starter you're a drama starter if you found out hold on

03:08:42.640 you've been muted you guys know i have followers because i literally said it in my intro so uh jesse

03:08:47.680 do me a favor you've been muted so let us carry on with the conversation here so hey you want some

03:08:52.960 popcorn no i don't know are you sure you don't need popcorn no i don't now jolie going over here

03:08:59.040 to jolie what if it had like gold on it i'm not gonna i don't give a fuck about anything that you

03:09:03.200 have to say you got to stop talking do me a favor and stop talking okay so jolie i think i should

03:09:12.960 yeah anybody else you can do that because yeah i just okay why don't you just not spurred yeah yeah

03:09:19.360 because they're coming after me okay yeah you can you know okay i feel like you're offended yeah

03:09:24.480 you're the one offended because you're leaving girl you're offended but whatever give us the rage quit

03:09:28.960 give us the rage quit give us the rage quit give us the rage quit do it enough i keep calling all

03:09:36.400 these broke people losers not you you're you're pretty cool i like you you're an angel you just got

03:09:42.080 to go at this point i think i should go can you just go nice meeting you guys good luck in life

03:09:48.080 yeah can good luck yep thank you thanks for coming congrats on the baby thank you

03:09:57.200 this is sparta

03:10:05.840 peace out peace out with you too homie great to see you glad you can make it

03:10:11.520 that was scary um you handled that like a true one good job uh ab check thanks for the gift of 20 memberships

03:10:26.240 um hold on one second great combo yeah very very productive

03:10:36.800 got a lot out of that you guys made a lot of headway don't you think i learned a lot from that

03:10:40.960 i didn't learn shit i was just i was listening to her yeah the people are just

03:10:44.880 yeah

03:10:52.960 thank god she's gone let's celebrate

03:10:55.840 she's still yapping

03:10:59.100 hang on

03:11:00.380 okay she's good

03:11:04.300 alright

03:11:05.760 it's all good

03:11:06.760 I love how she was like

03:11:09.260 I would sue if I paid for my boyfriend

03:11:12.120 and then she threats me

03:11:13.040 and I'm like that's actually somebody

03:11:14.980 that was the closest I've ever got

03:11:18.660 to being hit in my life

03:11:20.760 me too she's like you wanna go

03:11:22.340 I thought she was gonna actually hit me

03:11:24.780 dude as soon as she started

03:11:26.860 attacking you I was like oh no

03:11:28.320 I cracked my fingers I said alright

03:11:29.940 I'm diving in

03:11:31.580 literally no that was definitely for like

03:11:34.660 clouds

03:11:35.160 it's Morgan time

03:11:38.300 tell them about the thousand dollar donation

03:11:40.680 for your video

03:11:41.420 the thousand dollar donation for your video

03:11:45.220 oh I don't think any of these

03:11:47.000 count towards that

03:11:48.200 yeah I know but I'm just saying

03:11:49.360 first we gotta show Andrew's photo and then I'll talk about it

03:11:52.740 first let me pop the

03:11:53.680 let me pop the champagne

03:11:55.200 um that was interesting

03:11:57.660 I mean

03:11:58.180 she was obviously

03:12:00.480 it was an act

03:12:01.360 I literally thought she was gonna hit me

03:12:02.440 definitely clout or whatever

03:12:03.860 um

03:12:04.980 you think

03:12:05.520 I really think she's actually like that

03:12:07.300 low key

03:12:08.220 I think it was like

03:12:09.120 no bro

03:12:09.800 nobody's that like

03:12:11.160 I would have calmed down after a while

03:12:12.980 I was like

03:12:13.300 yeah no

03:12:14.180 it was getting old

03:12:15.900 I was enjoying it

03:12:16.940 I'm not gonna lie

03:12:17.560 I was like

03:12:19.080 I was like

03:12:19.580 I was like

03:12:20.480 here we go

03:12:20.820 she came in being like

03:12:22.520 I'm very

03:12:23.340 I just feel so old to be here

03:12:25.360 like I'm not too old to be here

03:12:26.780 and then

03:12:27.740 to be like

03:12:28.520 you're a broke loser

03:12:29.400 you're like

03:12:30.020 she said she was

03:12:30.880 I'm 18

03:12:31.220 I have a thousand followers

03:12:32.620 you were out of line the whole time

03:12:34.180 what

03:12:34.720 you got right up in her face

03:12:35.920 why don't you calm down next time

03:12:37.800 I'm so sorry

03:12:38.000 I couldn't stop staring at her eyeliner the whole time

03:12:43.240 dude

03:12:43.500 oh my god

03:12:44.560 I know

03:12:45.140 so crazy

03:12:45.760 I'm a dude

03:12:45.980 what was wrong with her eyes

03:12:46.980 it was very thick

03:12:48.080 I wanted to go and just wipe it so bad

03:12:50.140 let me clean my creases before I talk shit

03:12:53.540 well

03:12:57.380 that was interesting

03:12:59.420 beef for life

03:13:02.240 beef for life

03:13:03.040 I was like

03:13:03.380 no one has beef with you

03:13:04.280 she made me finish my Celsius

03:13:06.160 I've never done that before

03:13:07.240 that's my next tattoo

03:13:08.300 beef for life

03:13:09.120 maybe it'll be my next tattoo

03:13:11.000 okay

03:13:11.480 champagne

03:13:12.560 round two

03:13:13.580 alright

03:13:15.940 who was it by the way

03:13:17.100 I should thank them

03:13:17.900 I was

03:13:18.240 I forgot the name

03:13:20.100 who

03:13:20.780 who was it

03:13:22.060 let me look

03:13:22.880 just Gerald

03:13:24.760 was it just

03:13:25.900 it was got boop

03:13:27.540 did I have more shayat

03:13:28.340 it was just Gerald

03:13:29.080 oh

03:13:29.500 yo Gerald

03:13:30.380 thank you so much for

03:13:31.220 he muted

03:13:31.800 two mutes

03:13:32.960 and champagne pot

03:13:33.680 and it never worked

03:13:34.680 you are a legend

03:13:35.760 I know

03:13:36.040 she would keep yelling

03:13:37.000 um

03:13:37.780 but Gerald

03:13:38.600 thank you for the champagne pot

03:13:39.540 much appreciated

03:13:40.280 definitely

03:13:40.940 got booped

03:13:42.660 this man just eating on stream

03:13:44.940 not giving a single fuck

03:13:47.000 that was Andrew

03:13:48.440 enjoying the popcorn

03:13:49.700 the delicious

03:13:50.840 really really good popcorn

03:13:52.680 delicious popcorn

03:13:53.640 top tier popcorn

03:13:55.120 yeah

03:13:55.440 it's only really good

03:13:56.400 thank you got boop

03:13:57.140 it's pretty shits

03:13:57.840 what the

03:13:59.020 what the hell

03:14:00.280 did I say that out loud

03:14:01.920 shit

03:14:02.280 it's valid

03:14:02.880 I think so

03:14:03.380 did you say valid

03:14:04.660 yeah

03:14:05.280 welcome

03:14:05.880 we have Morgan joining us

03:14:07.320 Morgan

03:14:07.640 do you want to

03:14:08.600 introduce yourself

03:14:09.300 I'm Morgan

03:14:09.700 introduce like

03:14:10.780 okay

03:14:11.160 that's it

03:14:12.020 what

03:14:13.160 they already know

03:14:14.300 I'm 18

03:14:14.600 I go to

03:14:15.640 the city college

03:14:16.980 and I'm

03:14:17.820 majoring in political

03:14:18.540 yo chat

03:14:19.100 are you pleased

03:14:19.780 with the replacement

03:14:20.620 chat

03:14:22.300 are you pleased

03:14:23.180 do you prefer

03:14:25.280 the color

03:14:25.960 like the

03:14:27.760 the hat

03:14:28.720 I don't know

03:14:29.480 she was wearing yellow

03:14:30.640 but now

03:14:31.880 it's like

03:14:32.240 it's like pink

03:14:33.480 and

03:14:33.720 okay

03:14:34.120 and this one's not a prostitute

03:14:35.720 oh shit

03:14:36.560 this one

03:14:37.340 oh my goodness

03:14:39.520 right from the peanut

03:14:40.880 this would be

03:14:41.400 this would

03:14:42.080 when did I last

03:14:43.100 do the

03:14:43.400 twitch

03:14:44.140 yeah we'll do

03:14:45.780 twitch a little later

03:14:46.440 and we'll do the other

03:14:47.060 the last time

03:14:47.900 uh okay

03:14:48.940 ask everyone

03:14:49.820 stifler

03:14:50.660 ask everyone to rate

03:14:51.480 their looks

03:14:52.080 on the scale of

03:14:53.840 one to ten

03:14:54.540 can't pick seven

03:14:55.460 okay hang on

03:14:56.260 let me clarify the question

03:14:57.500 let me clarify it

03:15:00.260 well I think we should

03:15:00.960 let them answer this one

03:15:01.980 and then you ask

03:15:02.720 your follow up

03:15:03.360 and yeah

03:15:04.460 okay go ahead

03:15:06.460 bro I don't want to answer

03:15:07.840 you have

03:15:08.320 okay hold on

03:15:09.140 you gotta answer this one

03:15:10.300 it's so like

03:15:12.400 subjective

03:15:13.160 like I don't want to

03:15:14.120 I don't want to answer

03:15:15.280 yeah what do you

03:15:16.480 subjectively think

03:15:18.020 if you had to rate

03:15:19.720 your physical looks

03:15:21.160 what would it be

03:15:24.740 can't say seven

03:15:26.900 I already know

03:15:28.180 eight

03:15:28.940 oh

03:15:29.960 okay

03:15:30.320 what about you

03:15:30.860 I'll say eight

03:15:31.800 I'll say eight

03:15:33.020 and a half

03:15:33.580 that makes

03:15:34.780 eight

03:15:35.440 yeah eight

03:15:36.440 actually

03:15:37.900 everyone's saying eight

03:15:38.860 so what do you

03:15:40.280 what do you

03:15:40.740 I'll go

03:15:42.260 I'll go eight

03:15:43.020 hold on

03:15:43.640 no no no

03:15:44.060 hold on

03:15:44.520 don't follow the trend

03:15:45.680 you can't just

03:15:46.640 because everybody else

03:15:47.680 is saying

03:15:47.980 like it's

03:15:48.860 I mean maybe you do

03:15:50.420 that's what you think

03:15:51.240 I mean sure

03:15:51.860 but

03:15:52.200 but you

03:15:54.480 you prefaced

03:15:55.180 eight by

03:15:55.960 everybody else

03:15:56.620 is picking eight

03:15:57.200 so I'm gonna pick eight

03:15:58.320 was that gonna be

03:15:59.720 your original answer

03:16:00.580 no

03:16:01.500 what was your original answer

03:16:02.920 I'm a little jet lagged

03:16:04.200 I'm a little

03:16:05.000 not looking my best

03:16:06.080 today

03:16:06.240 so you were gonna

03:16:06.780 say ten

03:16:07.260 no

03:16:09.660 oh

03:16:10.500 no

03:16:11.320 what were you gonna

03:16:12.440 say

03:16:12.680 like six

03:16:14.060 but now you're an eight

03:16:15.760 because you're jet lagged

03:16:16.980 no

03:16:17.660 no

03:16:18.160 you're too far from

03:16:19.180 you gotta scoot

03:16:19.760 into the table

03:16:20.620 oh

03:16:21.000 no

03:16:21.740 I was

03:16:22.240 I was gonna say six

03:16:23.520 and then everyone

03:16:24.200 was saying eight

03:16:24.760 so I said eight

03:16:25.480 okay I'll be a six

03:16:26.320 too

03:16:26.680 I'll be a six

03:16:27.600 with you

03:16:27.860 I can't say seven

03:16:29.500 nope

03:16:30.340 wait why can't we say seven

03:16:32.060 okay

03:16:32.880 Andrew

03:16:33.360 what about you

03:16:34.380 four

03:16:35.220 I give myself a five

03:16:37.200 now Andrew

03:16:39.160 if you want to ask

03:16:39.680 your follow-up question

03:16:41.300 let me ask the question again

03:16:42.940 yes I understand

03:16:45.040 it's subjective

03:16:45.600 if you look around

03:16:49.160 you have to admit

03:16:50.500 that the woman next to you

03:16:51.700 looks nothing like you

03:16:52.760 right

03:16:52.980 and the woman next to her

03:16:54.920 looks nothing like her

03:16:55.940 but somehow you're all

03:16:57.560 in the same category

03:16:58.460 looks wise

03:16:59.300 does that sound rational

03:17:01.000 to you

03:17:01.440 yeah

03:17:02.480 yeah

03:17:04.980 yeah

03:17:06.160 okay

03:17:06.780 who's the prettiest girl

03:17:08.320 in the room

03:17:08.740 no no no

03:17:11.160 let her answer

03:17:11.980 who's the prettiest girl

03:17:12.860 here

03:17:13.080 to me

03:17:13.700 that I think is prettier

03:17:14.500 who's the prettiest girl

03:17:16.800 in the room

03:17:17.220 I love everybody

03:17:17.920 but I think she's prettier

03:17:18.800 okay

03:17:19.360 who's the prettiest girl

03:17:20.620 in the room

03:17:21.080 okay

03:17:21.800 she's the prettiest

03:17:22.680 wow

03:17:24.460 okay

03:17:25.940 what about you

03:17:26.860 who's the prettiest girl

03:17:27.580 in the room

03:17:28.380 Madison

03:17:29.400 who's the prettiest girl

03:17:31.140 in the room

03:17:31.580 I don't know her name

03:17:34.260 but the

03:17:34.620 Morgan

03:17:34.960 Morgan

03:17:35.540 it's really weird

03:17:36.980 that suddenly you have

03:17:39.120 standards

03:17:39.900 which you can

03:17:40.700 subjectively apply

03:17:41.880 and pick out

03:17:42.580 who the

03:17:42.960 most bestest looking girl

03:17:44.660 is in the room

03:17:45.520 somehow when it comes

03:17:46.540 to yourself

03:17:46.960 you always

03:17:47.720 land on

03:17:48.560 about the same number

03:17:49.620 which is

03:17:50.160 I'm perfect

03:17:51.060 right

03:17:52.260 eight

03:17:52.580 that's like

03:17:54.120 let's say

03:17:56.320 there's no nines

03:17:57.100 or tens

03:17:57.540 right

03:17:57.920 they're

03:17:58.520 they're

03:17:58.820 real rare

03:17:59.840 like

03:18:00.280 if you see one

03:18:01.340 they block out

03:18:02.360 the sun

03:18:02.900 that's how

03:18:03.740 intensely gorgeous

03:18:04.600 they are

03:18:05.200 would you change

03:18:06.560 your answer

03:18:07.060 based on this

03:18:07.920 I said

03:18:11.880 eight

03:18:12.280 not for like

03:18:13.220 face

03:18:13.600 but for body

03:18:14.340 like I thought

03:18:15.100 like I think

03:18:15.680 I have a nice body

03:18:16.440 so that like

03:18:17.040 raises my looks

03:18:18.100 I guess

03:18:18.540 so okay

03:18:19.200 give us your face

03:18:19.880 rating and your

03:18:20.460 body rating

03:18:21.400 uh face

03:18:22.540 probably like a six

03:18:23.560 and then body

03:18:24.280 eight

03:18:24.820 or

03:18:25.560 yeah

03:18:26.180 okay

03:18:27.080 cool

03:18:28.480 so still an eight

03:18:30.340 yeah

03:18:32.040 but like

03:18:34.640 that's what I was

03:18:35.240 thinking about

03:18:35.720 think of a famous

03:18:36.360 person for me

03:18:37.200 who's a nine

03:18:37.880 and tell me her name

03:18:39.040 who's a nine

03:18:44.600 mm-hmm

03:18:45.440 no help

03:18:47.720 don't cheat

03:18:49.160 sorry

03:18:49.420 well

03:18:49.840 now that you

03:18:50.580 put me on the spot

03:18:51.460 I'm trying to like

03:18:52.200 think of a person

03:18:53.060 I'm like blank now

03:18:54.280 can't think of one

03:18:56.520 one female

03:18:57.900 who's a nine

03:18:58.580 not one

03:18:59.340 not one female

03:19:02.180 who's a nine

03:19:03.100 no there's definitely

03:19:04.640 nines

03:19:05.080 I'm just like

03:19:05.660 I'm trying to think

03:19:06.560 of someone

03:19:07.160 that's like well

03:19:08.140 known

03:19:08.460 that's a nine

03:19:09.120 or like

03:19:11.540 you're saying a nine

03:19:12.720 based off of my own

03:19:13.600 standard

03:19:14.000 or the society's

03:19:15.160 standard

03:19:15.360 your standard

03:19:15.740 um

03:19:16.680 that one that makes

03:19:17.520 you an eight

03:19:18.000 I can't think of a person

03:19:27.840 okay

03:19:28.720 name four actresses

03:19:31.280 um

03:19:33.420 Kristen Stewart

03:19:36.820 I think she's really

03:19:39.060 pretty

03:19:39.480 um

03:19:40.920 four pop singers

03:19:46.240 um

03:19:47.780 Katy Perry

03:19:49.140 Lady Gaga

03:19:50.020 um

03:19:51.000 Olivia

03:19:52.820 Rodrigo

03:19:53.820 and

03:19:54.440 who's a fourth

03:19:58.180 fourth one

03:20:00.580 just make it

03:20:01.060 any singer

03:20:01.580 who's a female

03:20:03.580 Billie Eilish

03:20:06.600 Billie Eilish

03:20:07.640 so you're more

03:20:08.220 attractive than

03:20:08.800 Katy Perry

03:20:09.300 um

03:20:11.320 I don't really

03:20:15.320 remember what she

03:20:15.980 looks like

03:20:16.580 but yeah

03:20:18.900 sure

03:20:19.300 okay

03:20:22.080 you can't think of a

03:20:24.180 single actress who's a

03:20:25.140 nine though

03:20:25.460 singer

03:20:26.860 or singer

03:20:26.880 what about singer

03:20:27.540 can you think of a

03:20:28.120 single singer who's a

03:20:28.860 nine

03:20:29.020 who you're just one

03:20:31.720 step below

03:20:32.260 okay well I think

03:20:33.460 I think Olivia Rodrigo

03:20:34.760 is a nine

03:20:35.240 I think she's really

03:20:36.480 pretty

03:20:36.800 so you're just one

03:20:38.400 step below her

03:20:39.120 sure

03:20:39.700 is that what you

03:20:41.220 actually think

03:20:41.720 well yeah based off

03:20:42.520 the rating that we

03:20:43.400 gave

03:20:43.700 yeah not based off

03:20:45.140 the rating

03:20:45.480 you can revise

03:20:46.360 the rating you

03:20:47.220 gave

03:20:47.780 but yeah

03:20:48.400 if you think she's a

03:20:48.900 nine

03:20:49.180 yeah I'll say I'm an

03:20:50.460 eight

03:20:50.660 you're an eight

03:20:51.300 okay

03:20:51.780 but like yeah

03:20:52.660 yeah

03:20:53.180 okay same to you

03:20:54.100 three nines

03:20:56.840 who you can think of

03:20:58.080 who are women

03:20:58.580 uh Megan Fox

03:20:59.800 Julia Roberts

03:21:00.920 and

03:21:02.160 the

03:21:04.600 if Megan Fox

03:21:07.000 is a nine

03:21:07.680 how the fuck

03:21:08.420 are you an eight

03:21:09.060 no no no

03:21:09.520 she's a ten to me

03:21:10.420 she's a twelve

03:21:11.020 thousand

03:21:11.740 she's perfect

03:21:12.540 she's an infinity

03:21:13.160 even if she's a ten

03:21:14.580 how could that make

03:21:15.640 you an eight

03:21:16.320 well if you're

03:21:17.540 if I'm comparing

03:21:18.220 myself if we're

03:21:18.820 going to that scale

03:21:19.780 then it was next

03:21:20.540 to Megan Fox

03:21:21.080 I'd put myself

03:21:21.580 at like a three

03:21:22.160 or four

03:21:22.580 realistically

03:21:23.620 realistically

03:21:24.800 I'm gonna be honest

03:21:25.640 okay

03:21:25.880 okay then back up

03:21:27.020 you gotta help me

03:21:27.520 out here

03:21:27.840 okay

03:21:28.120 if thing over here

03:21:31.400 ten

03:21:31.960 uh-huh

03:21:32.520 you eight

03:21:33.620 but if you compare

03:21:34.680 yourself to thing

03:21:35.480 ten you four

03:21:36.340 how can you be

03:21:37.460 an eight

03:21:37.940 wait wait what

03:21:39.600 she's a ten

03:21:41.720 yes

03:21:42.060 you're an eight

03:21:42.840 not next to her

03:21:44.240 yeah next to her

03:21:45.400 you're a four

03:21:45.940 yeah

03:21:46.360 but she's a ten

03:21:47.160 yeah

03:21:47.640 you realize there's

03:21:48.300 only ten numbers

03:21:49.060 on this scale

03:21:49.680 yes

03:21:50.400 I'm not the

03:21:51.760 ugliest girl

03:21:52.200 in the world

03:21:52.460 but I'm not

03:21:52.800 I'm not saying

03:21:53.400 you are

03:21:53.960 right

03:21:54.780 not saying

03:21:55.300 that you're

03:21:55.640 the ugliest

03:21:56.080 girl in the

03:21:56.460 world

03:21:56.620 prettiest girl

03:21:57.120 in the world

03:21:57.360 not saying

03:21:57.740 anything

03:21:58.020 okay

03:21:58.380 there's ten

03:21:59.340 numbers on

03:21:59.760 the scale

03:22:00.120 how can you

03:22:01.420 put yourself

03:22:01.940 up next to

03:22:02.880 a number

03:22:03.200 which is higher

03:22:03.820 than you

03:22:04.320 and then say

03:22:05.320 when I'm up

03:22:05.920 next to the

03:22:06.320 number higher

03:22:06.800 than me

03:22:07.140 it lowers

03:22:07.680 my number

03:22:08.280 that makes

03:22:08.860 no sense

03:22:09.600 I mean

03:22:11.680 I guess you're

03:22:12.280 right it really

03:22:12.680 doesn't but

03:22:13.400 in like

03:22:14.000 since you're

03:22:14.420 asking the

03:22:14.840 question like

03:22:15.480 realistically

03:22:15.860 now that I

03:22:16.360 think about

03:22:16.860 it

03:22:17.060 you know

03:22:17.660 like there

03:22:18.260 is you know

03:22:18.840 Megan Fox

03:22:19.340 like she is a

03:22:20.000 standard

03:22:20.300 like she is a

03:22:20.980 beauty standard

03:22:21.460 you know

03:22:21.820 so obviously

03:22:22.540 I don't fit

03:22:23.100 in that beauty

03:22:23.520 standard

03:22:23.840 I would not

03:22:24.460 categorize myself

03:22:25.200 as an eight

03:22:25.680 in that beauty

03:22:26.700 standard with

03:22:27.320 Megan Fox

03:22:27.980 so then what

03:22:29.640 would you

03:22:30.000 categorize yourself

03:22:30.880 as

03:22:31.060 like a four

03:22:31.440 or five

03:22:31.940 a four

03:22:32.480 or five

03:22:32.920 what about

03:22:33.560 you compared

03:22:34.020 to Megan Fox

03:22:34.800 um

03:22:36.660 like a three

03:22:37.520 like a three

03:22:38.860 you realize

03:22:40.040 but that's like

03:22:40.620 in the context

03:22:41.240 of comparison

03:22:41.980 me and

03:22:42.960 versus her

03:22:43.600 not just like

03:22:44.760 the general

03:22:45.240 question

03:22:45.800 it's all

03:22:46.460 women

03:22:46.940 between one

03:22:48.140 to ten

03:22:48.740 so if you

03:22:49.800 categorize yourself

03:22:50.660 as an eight

03:22:51.160 it's a comparison

03:22:51.840 to all women

03:22:52.680 on planet earth

03:22:53.500 but originally

03:22:53.600 the question

03:22:54.360 wasn't comparing

03:22:55.480 us to other

03:22:56.400 women it was

03:22:56.780 just initially

03:22:57.480 can't pick seven

03:22:58.500 how can you

03:22:59.320 rate your looks

03:23:00.360 unless you're

03:23:01.460 comparing them

03:23:02.060 to other women's

03:23:03.000 looks

03:23:03.380 well but I

03:23:04.580 wasn't when I

03:23:05.260 said the answer

03:23:05.920 but now we

03:23:06.580 what were you

03:23:07.260 using as your

03:23:08.100 metric

03:23:08.620 just whatever

03:23:09.960 came to my

03:23:10.540 mind

03:23:10.900 like as to

03:23:13.060 how I feel

03:23:13.500 today

03:23:13.900 like tomorrow

03:23:14.960 if you ask

03:23:15.400 me I could

03:23:15.980 feel like a

03:23:16.420 three tomorrow

03:23:16.980 you know

03:23:17.420 if I don't

03:23:18.400 have makeup

03:23:18.800 done or a

03:23:19.360 cute outfit

03:23:19.820 maybe I'm

03:23:20.340 a three

03:23:20.600 tomorrow

03:23:20.880 what the

03:23:21.080 fuck does

03:23:21.440 it have to

03:23:21.780 do with

03:23:22.020 how you

03:23:22.320 feel

03:23:22.700 that's how

03:23:24.160 I feel

03:23:24.460 today

03:23:24.820 I feel

03:23:25.220 like an

03:23:25.460 eight today

03:23:26.040 okay

03:23:26.400 so it

03:23:28.580 clearly was

03:23:29.480 miscommunicated

03:23:30.420 so I'm

03:23:31.100 going to ask

03:23:31.480 again

03:23:31.800 based on

03:23:33.960 physical looks

03:23:35.480 only in

03:23:36.440 comparison to

03:23:37.260 all of the

03:23:38.180 women who

03:23:38.560 exist in the

03:23:39.200 world the

03:23:40.240 scale is one

03:23:41.020 to ten for

03:23:41.640 all of them

03:23:42.400 where do

03:23:43.880 you fit

03:23:44.380 um three

03:23:46.160 three

03:23:47.100 do you

03:23:49.080 revise or

03:23:49.580 no you

03:23:50.200 don't look

03:23:50.460 like you're

03:23:50.720 going to

03:23:51.020 you look

03:23:51.220 like you're

03:23:51.520 going to

03:23:51.620 stubborn it

03:23:52.060 out but

03:23:52.400 you can

03:23:52.760 you can

03:23:53.020 change your

03:23:53.300 answer if

03:23:53.660 you want

03:23:53.900 to

03:23:54.080 I mean

03:23:58.680 maybe a

03:24:01.640 six

03:24:04.240 four

03:24:06.260 now you're

03:24:07.220 four

03:24:07.480 yes

03:24:07.880 so

03:24:08.940 so what

03:24:09.900 changed

03:24:10.520 when we're

03:24:11.480 asking you

03:24:12.320 on a scale

03:24:14.400 of one to

03:24:14.980 ten

03:24:15.440 rate yourself

03:24:17.220 looks wise

03:24:17.960 what did you

03:24:19.360 think that that

03:24:19.920 meant

03:24:20.380 I just

03:24:21.220 meant like

03:24:21.740 you know

03:24:22.320 like

03:24:22.680 you're just

03:24:24.500 like you know

03:24:24.840 you're cute

03:24:25.260 you're pretty

03:24:25.600 yeah like how

03:24:26.120 do you feel

03:24:26.560 right now

03:24:26.920 that's how I

03:24:27.580 put it

03:24:28.060 because like

03:24:28.400 if I came on

03:24:29.480 here with no

03:24:30.020 makeup and

03:24:30.980 like hair and

03:24:32.400 just outfit not

03:24:33.440 cute like I

03:24:34.200 would I would

03:24:34.860 rank myself

03:24:35.540 lower but just

03:24:36.300 like how I feel

03:24:36.940 today I feel

03:24:37.740 like an eight

03:24:38.100 today so

03:24:39.200 but I wasn't

03:24:39.980 thinking about

03:24:40.560 other women when

03:24:41.400 I was saying

03:24:41.880 but do you

03:24:42.220 think that your

03:24:42.680 physical beauty is

03:24:43.600 based around

03:24:44.480 um how you

03:24:46.200 feel

03:24:46.520 yeah

03:24:47.740 yeah

03:24:48.500 yeah

03:24:48.980 let's say

03:24:50.240 you feel bad

03:24:51.440 about it

03:24:52.000 right

03:24:52.680 say you dial

03:24:53.820 yourself up

03:24:54.600 and you look

03:24:55.240 even better

03:24:55.860 than you do

03:24:56.320 right now

03:24:56.640 but you just

03:24:57.000 don't feel

03:24:57.560 good that day

03:24:58.340 how would that

03:24:59.020 actually diminish

03:24:59.720 your physical

03:25:00.160 beauty

03:25:00.480 um in reality

03:25:02.340 no I would be

03:25:03.000 the same person

03:25:03.780 but it would

03:25:04.500 change my

03:25:05.320 perspective

03:25:06.000 sure but in

03:25:06.960 reality it

03:25:07.540 wouldn't right

03:25:08.060 so why wouldn't

03:25:08.500 you just base

03:25:09.020 the answer on

03:25:09.700 what in reality

03:25:10.560 is true

03:25:11.040 because it's all

03:25:13.120 about perspective

03:25:13.840 it's all about

03:25:14.400 perspective

03:25:14.720 my perspective

03:25:15.160 now was

03:25:15.960 and your

03:25:16.500 perspective

03:25:16.900 when it was

03:25:17.360 Megan Fox

03:25:18.060 was changed

03:25:19.440 like the

03:25:21.880 factors in the

03:25:22.580 question changed

03:25:23.600 because you

03:25:23.980 didn't

03:25:24.100 nope the

03:25:24.520 factors never

03:25:25.040 changed

03:25:25.460 they did

03:25:26.180 change because

03:25:26.740 you brought

03:25:27.200 in Megan Fox

03:25:28.100 as like the

03:25:29.120 beauty standard

03:25:29.780 to what we

03:25:30.360 were comparing

03:25:30.900 ourselves to

03:25:31.680 what were you

03:25:32.340 comparing yourself

03:25:33.320 so then what

03:25:33.800 were you comparing

03:25:34.520 yourself to

03:25:35.140 the way I feel

03:25:36.320 now

03:25:36.680 well then that's

03:25:37.400 not comparing

03:25:37.940 yourself to me

03:25:38.600 that's just you

03:25:39.160 saying how I

03:25:39.820 feel

03:25:40.160 what's the

03:25:41.180 comparison to

03:25:42.020 no I'm saying

03:25:43.620 you made the

03:25:44.300 comparison because

03:25:45.780 then we started

03:25:46.640 talking about

03:25:47.060 Megan Fox

03:25:47.660 and like how

03:25:48.200 do I compare

03:25:48.680 to her

03:25:49.060 yeah how

03:25:49.680 can you

03:25:49.960 so like because

03:25:50.520 I think she's

03:25:51.740 really pretty

03:25:52.300 like if I was

03:25:53.320 someone that

03:25:53.760 thought Megan Fox

03:25:54.560 was ugly I'd be

03:25:55.420 like I'm still

03:25:56.040 innate but because

03:25:56.780 I think she's

03:25:57.440 gorgeous of course

03:25:58.320 I'm gonna be like

03:25:58.900 I'm not as

03:25:59.740 pretty as her

03:26:00.320 right so it

03:26:01.480 changed my answer

03:26:02.480 because it's in

03:26:03.260 comparison to

03:26:03.900 Megan Fox now

03:26:04.740 not just how I

03:26:06.040 feel right now

03:26:06.640 so in compared to

03:26:07.820 women that you

03:26:08.360 consider to be

03:26:09.080 really really pretty

03:26:09.980 you don't consider

03:26:10.900 yourself to be

03:26:11.540 really really pretty

03:26:12.320 no not as

03:26:13.620 pretty as them

03:26:14.260 then why would

03:26:15.020 you rate yourself

03:26:15.840 an eight

03:26:16.440 because that

03:26:18.020 wasn't factored

03:26:18.800 into the question

03:26:19.520 just how it was

03:26:20.380 just how I feel

03:26:21.080 it's just how you

03:26:21.680 feel looks are

03:26:22.600 about how we feel

03:26:23.740 oh like like I

03:26:25.000 was saying you

03:26:25.600 don't think there's

03:26:26.040 any objective

03:26:26.540 standard for looks

03:26:27.320 um just like the

03:26:29.600 way society views

03:26:30.940 like looks or

03:26:31.820 yeah yeah of

03:26:33.420 course like there's

03:26:34.080 always a standard

03:26:34.820 for like who's

03:26:36.240 prettier than this

03:26:37.300 person but it

03:26:39.700 that wasn't

03:26:40.300 factored necessarily

03:26:41.600 into the initial

03:26:42.320 question yeah I

03:26:43.880 think and then it

03:26:44.780 was what other

03:26:45.620 standard could you

03:26:46.480 use my personal

03:26:48.480 feeling on how you

03:26:49.700 feel you don't

03:26:53.360 think that's a

03:26:53.820 little delusional

03:26:54.540 okay let's say

03:26:55.460 this delusional

03:26:56.340 let's how I feel

03:26:57.220 right now let's

03:26:57.920 say you're going

03:26:58.400 out right on a

03:26:59.080 like just on a

03:26:59.760 date like a night

03:27:00.540 to eat dinner you

03:27:01.760 get dressed you

03:27:02.720 feel you when you

03:27:03.440 dress nice like do

03:27:04.400 you feel nice sure

03:27:05.720 so when you're not

03:27:07.500 dressed nice do you

03:27:08.920 feel nice

03:27:09.520 let's say I

03:27:10.960 don't okay so

03:27:12.340 what would you

03:27:12.680 rate yourself on a

03:27:13.300 day that you're

03:27:13.800 dressed super nice

03:27:14.740 you're ready to go

03:27:15.360 out to dinner ready

03:27:16.080 to go take some

03:27:16.720 family photos what

03:27:18.040 would you rate

03:27:18.360 yourself then for

03:27:19.420 and then what so

03:27:20.780 you would you rate

03:27:21.240 yourself the same

03:27:21.780 when obviously you're

03:27:23.020 not looking your

03:27:23.500 best and who do

03:27:25.120 you compare yourself

03:27:25.720 to saying that to

03:27:26.880 like not agree though

03:27:27.960 and who do you

03:27:28.380 compare yourself to

03:27:29.120 I'm saying that

03:27:29.920 because I think

03:27:31.020 that there's an

03:27:31.540 objective beauty

03:27:32.380 standard which

03:27:33.080 exists exactly

03:27:34.060 and the reason I

03:27:35.100 think there's an

03:27:35.620 objective beauty

03:27:36.200 standard which exists

03:27:37.000 is because I have a

03:27:37.820 historical standard to

03:27:38.760 compare it to so it

03:27:41.000 seems like it exists

03:27:41.760 for sure that we all

03:27:42.780 so I agree that

03:27:43.760 there's some

03:27:44.080 subjectivity there

03:27:44.920 some people like

03:27:45.800 blue eyes they like

03:27:46.740 this they like that

03:27:47.660 doesn't seem like

03:27:49.020 men are competing

03:27:49.580 really hard for 600

03:27:50.600 pound burn victims

03:27:51.860 though right no no

03:27:53.200 so there's something

03:27:55.500 that we're kind of

03:27:56.280 leaning towards as

03:27:57.580 being pretty beautiful

03:27:59.580 things like this and

03:28:00.780 I've seen you women

03:28:01.840 you're vicious when

03:28:03.320 you're competing

03:28:03.860 with each other

03:28:04.940 vicious in competition

03:28:06.140 judge each other

03:28:07.500 like nobody's

03:28:08.200 business okay you

03:28:09.520 look at me like

03:28:10.380 you're skeptical so

03:28:11.160 let me ask you this

03:28:11.660 question and honestly

03:28:13.240 answer when you go

03:28:14.780 into a room and you

03:28:15.360 sit down with a bunch

03:28:15.980 of women do you

03:28:17.060 judge them in your

03:28:17.620 mind how pretty they

03:28:19.180 yeah yeah what are

03:28:21.200 you judging them

03:28:21.800 against not judging

03:28:23.960 them against anything

03:28:25.120 but just kind of just

03:28:25.860 judging them because

03:28:26.560 I'm just a girl and

03:28:27.320 like I'm always have

03:28:28.180 an opinion about

03:28:28.740 someone on something

03:28:29.440 you're gonna have an

03:28:30.200 opinion about how

03:28:30.840 they look right

03:28:31.380 right which is a

03:28:32.260 personal so what are

03:28:33.380 you comparing it to

03:28:34.300 though the standard

03:28:35.500 of beauty in their

03:28:36.360 head which they're

03:28:38.940 relaying to society

03:28:39.960 right yeah yeah

03:28:41.080 that's just can we

03:28:43.480 pull up that photo

03:28:44.120 of young Andrew

03:28:45.060 let's pull it up

03:28:47.460 look at wow that

03:28:49.660 is not a four that's

03:28:50.860 not a four that's

03:28:51.720 not a four I was

03:28:52.540 19 I'm 40 you

03:28:54.600 eight bro but I

03:28:55.920 don't personally I

03:28:56.860 still don't think

03:28:57.500 you're a four yeah

03:28:58.380 like in my opinion

03:28:59.320 see I'm personally

03:29:00.320 into white boys but

03:29:01.260 like in high school

03:29:02.960 you're not into

03:29:03.640 white boys I am I

03:29:04.440 am yeah oh you

03:29:05.060 are yeah like that's

03:29:06.240 your type no no no

03:29:06.980 see like there he

03:29:07.800 doesn't look white boy

03:29:08.500 he doesn't look like

03:29:10.080 a white boy I think

03:29:10.860 he looks white boy

03:29:11.720 no what does he what

03:29:13.280 does he look like

03:29:14.040 he just look like

03:29:14.600 Latino what what

03:29:16.020 yeah Latino like a

03:29:18.000 blue-eyed Latino

03:29:18.960 bro your eyes are not

03:29:19.900 blue in that photo

03:29:20.580 I pull the photo up

03:29:21.940 they don't huh

03:29:22.940 they look brown in

03:29:23.680 that photo yeah

03:29:24.220 they're dark yeah

03:29:25.040 Andrew did you used

03:29:26.300 to obviously they're

03:29:27.460 not dark but it's

03:29:29.460 the lighting no

03:29:30.340 Andrew were you

03:29:31.480 uh affiliated with

03:29:33.000 any Mexican drug

03:29:35.280 gangs or anything

03:29:35.800 yeah my my last

03:29:36.680 name is um Wilson

03:29:38.600 that's a really

03:29:39.980 Hispanic last name

03:29:41.140 as you know

03:29:41.840 Wilson

03:29:42.520 that's good oh

03:29:48.180 speaking of which

03:29:48.980 Maddie Maddie brought

03:29:50.360 this up uh since

03:29:52.480 Andrew revealed that

03:29:53.560 young photo of him

03:29:54.440 we also have a

03:29:55.720 challenge oh my god

03:29:56.760 uh I don't even

03:29:59.320 want to say that's

03:29:59.960 so cringe I have

03:30:03.220 I have a video of

03:30:04.740 me when I was 22

03:30:06.120 flexing into a

03:30:12.920 webcam oh no

03:30:14.520 like your arms like

03:30:16.740 I'm wearing pants

03:30:17.580 but um it's in like

03:30:21.420 a 480p webcam so

03:30:23.480 for another champagne

03:30:24.320 pop I'll fucking

03:30:25.400 show the video

03:30:26.060 champagne only

03:30:27.440 because Maddie

03:30:27.960 really wants to

03:30:28.680 see it I want to

03:30:30.100 see yeah and then

03:30:31.520 if you send in five

03:30:32.780 there's a video this

03:30:35.080 is Andrew asked for

03:30:36.080 for five there's a

03:30:37.760 video of him playing

03:30:38.380 guitar and like

03:30:39.800 singing or something

03:30:40.560 right yeah so what

03:30:42.920 were you singing I

03:30:44.480 was actually roasting

03:30:45.280 the shit out of my

03:30:45.920 sister the song was

03:30:46.920 called Tetris and

03:30:47.880 drugs oh my god

03:30:49.760 yeah nice

03:30:50.620 anyways um let's

03:30:54.400 actually really quick

03:30:55.420 last thing on the

03:30:55.980 whole like looks

03:30:56.480 thing do you think

03:30:58.040 you will be better

03:30:59.300 looking in 10 years

03:31:01.780 time yes starting

03:31:02.760 well hold on

03:31:03.460 starting with you

03:31:04.100 I think that I'll

03:31:08.260 damn Maddie chill

03:31:11.480 sorry I gained some

03:31:12.440 weight

03:31:12.800 you think what

03:31:16.140 what'd you do you

03:31:17.560 cheese it

03:31:18.100 yeah I had two

03:31:19.660 cheese hits

03:31:20.240 I would like to

03:31:30.820 say yes if I

03:31:32.080 prioritize my

03:31:33.340 health and

03:31:33.800 well-being

03:31:34.260 so better looking

03:31:39.240 at 32 as compared

03:31:40.420 to now at 22

03:31:41.340 no I don't think I

03:31:46.220 think that I would

03:31:47.160 be better looking

03:31:47.760 now wait you just

03:31:49.400 but like I hope that

03:31:50.660 I would look equally

03:31:51.400 as good equally as

03:31:52.900 good yeah okay do

03:31:55.340 you do you think you

03:31:56.220 will be equally as

03:31:57.560 good looking at 32

03:31:58.820 as you are now at

03:32:00.460 22 no but you

03:32:04.280 hope but I'd like

03:32:05.860 to yes but you know

03:32:07.800 for certain you

03:32:08.540 won't be I'm just

03:32:10.360 answering the

03:32:11.280 question you're

03:32:14.360 struggling too but

03:32:15.340 what about you

03:32:17.000 yeah probably okay

03:32:23.280 so better looking at

03:32:24.140 29 as compared to

03:32:25.080 now at 19 yeah like

03:32:26.340 I mean I always

03:32:27.240 think I don't know

03:32:28.380 like I look up to

03:32:29.340 older women and I

03:32:30.100 always think they're

03:32:30.580 really pretty so I

03:32:31.360 you know do you

03:32:32.400 think they were

03:32:32.920 prettier like when

03:32:35.860 they were younger I

03:32:37.360 feel like it's all

03:32:37.960 about like how you

03:32:38.980 take care of

03:32:39.520 yourself yeah you

03:32:40.300 know okay all

03:32:41.160 right I'll let

03:32:42.160 everybody answer

03:32:42.840 this wait so well

03:32:44.080 better looking at 20

03:32:46.080 in 20 years 20

03:32:47.760 years yeah so you're

03:32:49.840 better you're gonna

03:32:50.240 be better looking at

03:32:50.860 29 than you are now

03:32:51.740 at 19 but what

03:32:52.780 about at 39 as

03:32:53.840 compared to 19

03:32:54.640 um maybe not

03:32:58.260 maybe not yeah

03:32:59.760 maybe not but so

03:33:02.000 there then there's a

03:33:02.740 chance that you will

03:33:03.600 be yeah because you

03:33:05.380 said maybe like it's

03:33:06.680 not definitive for

03:33:07.580 you right like you're

03:33:08.760 a little on the

03:33:09.200 fence who knows I

03:33:09.740 could be like a

03:33:10.340 total like milf like

03:33:11.700 when I'm 40 you know

03:33:12.800 like I could be like

03:33:13.520 okay but um I've

03:33:19.200 seen like some like I

03:33:20.720 mean I saw this one

03:33:21.620 girl that was like 50

03:33:23.020 she looked like 30 and

03:33:24.640 I was like I don't

03:33:26.060 know how women age so

03:33:27.080 well are most of the

03:33:28.020 35 year olds you see

03:33:29.180 walking around looking

03:33:30.520 as good as most of the

03:33:31.540 19 20 year olds you see

03:33:32.800 oh no of course not

03:33:34.040 there but for me then

03:33:35.420 the assumption really

03:33:36.640 probably shouldn't be

03:33:37.860 that you're gonna be in

03:33:38.580 that little tiny

03:33:39.540 category right I think

03:33:40.560 it could be because you

03:33:41.740 know it could be right

03:33:42.940 what is the likelihood

03:33:43.780 remember that whole risk

03:33:45.040 mitigation conversation

03:33:46.000 we had earlier so let's

03:33:47.840 use the same logic

03:33:48.560 applied here right if

03:33:50.760 it's true that this pool

03:33:51.840 is really small and it

03:33:52.960 must be because most

03:33:53.720 of the women you see

03:33:54.300 who are 35 40 years

03:33:55.460 old are not as

03:33:56.220 attractive as women

03:33:56.820 you see in 1920 right

03:33:57.980 why do you assume you

03:33:59.480 would be in that group

03:34:00.260 because I mean it

03:34:03.080 depends on how

03:34:03.880 yeah I mean shit

03:34:05.120 because I want to be

03:34:06.340 I mean am I going to

03:34:07.220 be like you know I'm

03:34:08.400 going to I want to be

03:34:09.100 ugly when I'm 40 no

03:34:10.320 but you know I'm not

03:34:12.200 saying you have to be

03:34:12.860 ugly at 40 just saying

03:34:14.320 do you think you'll be

03:34:15.240 as attractive as you

03:34:16.060 were 20 I mean

03:34:18.240 probably not yeah okay

03:34:20.480 let's get everybody's

03:34:21.320 answers what about you

03:34:22.140 um I honestly I would

03:34:26.380 like to think so um

03:34:28.640 just because like you

03:34:30.740 know I don't know I

03:34:31.500 feel like my mom and

03:34:32.120 my grandma aged really

03:34:32.980 good so I want to age

03:34:34.140 good as I'm okay so

03:34:34.960 you're 20 do you think

03:34:35.740 you'll be better looking

03:34:36.400 at 30 than you are

03:34:38.040 now yeah I look more

03:34:42.080 grown more like fit

03:34:43.060 into my like how like

03:34:44.340 I'm gonna look I feel

03:34:45.560 like I would feel

03:34:45.940 confident look at 30 I

03:34:47.520 feel like hold on did

03:34:49.080 I ask you about

03:34:49.560 confidence no you

03:34:50.640 didn't but okay I feel

03:34:52.660 that I would look better

03:34:53.880 confidently saying that

03:34:55.540 okay what about 40

03:34:57.580 would you be better

03:34:58.420 looking at 40 no I

03:34:59.860 feel like I would be

03:35:00.340 aged definitely a little

03:35:01.560 aged okay so you'll

03:35:03.520 peak at around 30 then

03:35:05.420 in your 30s maybe like

03:35:08.180 no I won't like look

03:35:10.280 fully bad in my 40s but

03:35:11.560 I'll probably start

03:35:12.080 peaking on my 40s on my

03:35:13.480 40s I probably look like

03:35:14.320 I'm pushing 45 and that

03:35:16.540 45 I look like I'm

03:35:17.320 pushing 50 okay well this

03:35:19.460 girl left um she would

03:35:21.320 have given an interesting

03:35:22.160 answer should we have

03:35:23.560 kept her you think

03:35:24.580 well she chose to leave

03:35:27.120 so yeah she said that

03:35:28.360 she was gonna go

03:35:28.960 anyway yeah well yeah

03:35:30.860 it was okay like it

03:35:32.480 was yeah anyways um

03:35:34.100 uh I mean you guys had

03:35:37.140 a good back and forth

03:35:37.960 you two were going at

03:35:38.940 it oh me and her

03:35:40.860 yeah I'm gonna keep it

03:35:41.860 moving they've answered

03:35:43.080 this bunch what about

03:35:44.180 you I feel like maybe

03:35:46.080 at like 25 or 26 like

03:35:50.000 I hope I'm not like

03:35:50.980 yelling at teenagers on

03:35:52.140 the podcast you're 18

03:35:53.180 I am 18 I feel like

03:35:54.820 maybe not at 28 okay

03:35:56.960 so no okay what about

03:35:58.520 you will you be better

03:35:59.600 looking in 10 years I

03:36:00.760 actually do think so um

03:36:02.600 because I I'm like

03:36:04.940 overall yes because I

03:36:07.080 do plan on getting like

03:36:08.680 stuff done like you know

03:36:10.380 what what do you mean

03:36:11.420 like maybe the only thing

03:36:12.840 I'm pretty insecure about

03:36:14.080 is kind of like my lips

03:36:15.100 maybe get some lip

03:36:15.840 injections maybe that's

03:36:18.060 it like I want to look

03:36:19.060 natural I do not want to

03:36:19.860 look like you know

03:36:21.300 I've never seen good

03:36:24.140 lip filler but there is

03:36:25.440 there's people that do

03:36:26.140 it subtly that like

03:36:27.540 influence it like I I

03:36:28.580 did not so just just so

03:36:30.620 I have I understand this

03:36:31.700 correctly so you're 19

03:36:34.640 yes at 29 simply by

03:36:37.780 virtue of you getting

03:36:38.580 lip filler not just by

03:36:40.080 that well you said you

03:36:42.120 were gonna get work

03:36:42.680 done there's other

03:36:42.720 factors that I that

03:36:44.160 lead me to believe to

03:36:45.400 that I will look better

03:36:46.340 right but the first thing

03:36:47.200 you said was you're gonna

03:36:48.600 get work done that was

03:36:49.680 the first thing yeah but

03:36:50.440 that's not the main

03:36:50.940 reason that's just like

03:36:51.800 one thing I listed okay

03:36:53.460 what else genetics my

03:36:56.620 mom looks really good

03:36:59.440 for her age she's 50 no

03:37:01.360 one thinks she's 50 and

03:37:03.020 I'm not saying that I

03:37:04.060 think she looks better

03:37:04.820 now than she did at 30

03:37:06.860 no but that's a

03:37:09.260 different question like

03:37:10.260 comparing her from 30 to

03:37:11.780 50 is different from

03:37:12.600 comparing me 19 to 29

03:37:14.520 like if you're gonna ask

03:37:15.480 me am I gonna look better

03:37:16.700 at 40 or 50 than 29 okay

03:37:19.460 then I'll say right but

03:37:20.540 your answer is a

03:37:21.420 different answer to the

03:37:22.540 question because you're

03:37:23.440 saying my mom is

03:37:25.340 attractive at 50 even if

03:37:27.680 I just grant that you may

03:37:30.900 very well be attractive

03:37:32.100 still at 50 yeah but that

03:37:34.840 doesn't answer the

03:37:35.380 question because the

03:37:36.220 question is will you be

03:37:37.640 more attractive at this

03:37:39.800 advanced age than you are

03:37:41.480 currently that's what I'm

03:37:42.480 saying at 29 it's like so

03:37:44.900 at 29 I do believe I will

03:37:46.620 look better because okay I

03:37:48.580 plan on taking care of

03:37:49.800 myself and I don't like I

03:37:51.060 see my I have an older

03:37:51.920 sister who's around the

03:37:52.960 age she does looks the

03:37:54.760 same so I do think I'll

03:37:57.460 look better with taking my

03:37:59.580 care of myself more I

03:38:00.680 don't think there'll be

03:38:01.260 like I'll start aging at

03:38:02.560 that time based off of

03:38:03.640 what I see in my family

03:38:04.660 what about 20 years

03:38:06.580 20 years for sure I'll

03:38:08.820 start you'll see aging

03:38:10.640 okay so then yes 29 no

03:38:14.920 39 but you said that 29

03:38:18.560 you'll take better care of

03:38:19.720 yourself so in what ways

03:38:20.820 would you are you just not

03:38:23.200 eating well I just recently

03:38:24.760 started really getting into

03:38:27.360 like my like how I eat like

03:38:31.200 being very strict on how I

03:38:32.520 eat how I work out like

03:38:33.700 skincare I didn't do

03:38:35.040 skincare before I don't I

03:38:36.260 didn't know what that was

03:38:37.080 like there's a list of things

03:38:39.480 that I do well assuming you

03:38:41.600 were doing all these and

03:38:42.780 this this is for the entire

03:38:44.400 panel assuming your entire

03:38:46.600 life you were living your

03:38:48.640 life in such a perfect

03:38:50.340 manner so your diet has

03:38:53.080 always been impeccable your

03:38:54.780 fitness has always been

03:38:55.920 impeccable you've always

03:38:57.320 exercised your body fat

03:38:59.080 percentages and what is

03:39:01.560 deemed like a perfect range

03:39:03.000 or whatever your skincare is

03:39:05.740 good if I if we're

03:39:09.480 consider all these things is

03:39:13.500 there ever any point that

03:39:16.600 you're going to be better

03:39:17.360 looking say if you're 20 as

03:39:20.980 compared to 30

03:39:21.640 sorry

03:39:24.900 well okay so you're saying if

03:39:27.640 I do all these things let's

03:39:29.720 say I just you had all those

03:39:31.200 things right now right

03:39:34.020 will you and then you have all

03:39:37.820 those things in 10 years when

03:39:39.400 you're 29 will you still then be

03:39:42.080 better looking at 29 no like if

03:39:44.660 I had if I did everything that I

03:39:46.420 plan to do in the future now and

03:39:47.840 if I had all the things that I

03:39:49.100 wanted to do now which isn't

03:39:50.780 which isn't much I would just say

03:39:52.220 like I'm a little insecure about

03:39:53.500 my body and stuff then for sure I

03:39:57.020 would look better now than in the

03:39:58.180 future that's like you know I mean

03:40:01.400 but you said you're like insecure

03:40:03.580 about your body now

03:40:04.520 look some people get really

03:40:08.160 tuned in on fitness and eating

03:40:10.300 but I would argue the vast

03:40:13.680 majority of people vast majority of

03:40:15.820 people are gonna say and I think

03:40:18.760 this is this is more so women are

03:40:20.640 gonna feel this way they're gonna be

03:40:22.560 30 and they're gonna look back at

03:40:24.580 their 20 year old selves that felt

03:40:26.240 insecure about their body and be like

03:40:28.560 damn that's when my body was the

03:40:32.160 best yeah I shouldn't have been so

03:40:35.040 insecure because now my body is not

03:40:38.120 as good as my body used to be well

03:40:40.360 it depends on what we're talking

03:40:42.540 about that's a good point and I try to

03:40:44.140 be in the present I try to appreciate

03:40:45.620 like I think about them like one day

03:40:47.000 I'm gonna have kids and I'm gonna

03:40:48.220 have like long has like even if you

03:40:49.740 didn't have kids even if you didn't

03:40:51.420 have even without kids I understand

03:40:52.880 that but I guess there's it just

03:40:55.640 depends what we're talking about and

03:40:57.260 also if you have money I what does

03:40:59.360 that have to do you could call me

03:41:01.040 delusional but I do believe I'm gonna

03:41:02.240 have enough money in the future to

03:41:03.620 like get like a mommy makeover and

03:41:04.820 stuff but so like okay this okay so

03:41:09.340 20 year old broke you versus 40 year

03:41:12.800 old you with mommy makeover best skin

03:41:15.020 care best diet you've been working out

03:41:18.940 who's better looking most likely like

03:41:24.120 facially 20 year old me because it's

03:41:29.860 like it's like some guys my age would

03:41:31.800 rather hit Kim Kardashian and she's in

03:41:34.480 her 40s and I'm young and all these

03:41:36.580 things and I'm not Kim Kardashian you

03:41:39.160 know some guys would much rather go with

03:41:42.220 Kim Kardashian why would they rather go

03:41:43.960 for Kim Kardashian over you she's more

03:41:46.820 attractive physically that that's just

03:41:49.880 like this is what it is she's bro no

03:41:54.500 you don't think she's more attractive

03:41:56.560 no no no and also body modification she

03:42:00.540 took those out she could float in the

03:42:02.500 ocean no but she took all out all her

03:42:05.000 implants I mean I've asked the chat

03:42:06.900 chat uh Jolie Jolie over here do you

03:42:11.360 want I don't know if you want like stand

03:42:12.660 so they can like see you or some shit

03:42:14.120 Jolie over here Jolie or Kim Kardashian

03:42:19.940 now which do you pick Kim is better

03:42:22.680 looking Jolie Jolie or Jolie or Kim

03:42:27.540 Kardashian also I think your lips are

03:42:32.000 perfectly fine yeah like they're fine

03:42:35.120 it's not like a deep insecurity look at

03:42:37.120 that look read Jolie they're all saying

03:42:40.320 Jolie thank you Jolie what's that

03:42:43.120 fucking song Jolie baby okay what's

03:42:46.880 like what the fuck is a mommy makeover

03:42:48.340 says just like a like tummy tuck like

03:42:51.360 liposuction of your stomach but not in a

03:42:54.080 fake way there's there's a I do my

03:42:55.740 research okay there's yeah like you

03:42:58.520 could get a liposuction and there's

03:43:02.320 360 awake liposuction where it doesn't

03:43:04.340 look like fake it looks like I've seen

03:43:07.680 it like or I could go in the gym which

03:43:09.700 is what I'm doing go to the gym take my

03:43:11.880 protein progressive overload calorie

03:43:16.420 surplus and lift weights and then get

03:43:20.540 the liposuction so my ass doesn't look

03:43:22.680 fake and then get the liposuction and

03:43:25.980 then just keep getting liposuction I'm

03:43:27.340 just kidding but my mom looks good

03:43:30.360 without that and she's she has she

03:43:32.540 hasn't done anything wait you genuinely

03:43:34.440 think like if given the option most men

03:43:36.420 would rather hit Kim K than you

03:43:38.960 okay yeah how old is Kim Kardashian

03:43:45.080 how old is Kim Kardashian or like Megan

03:43:47.600 even Megan Megan Fox like that's a good

03:43:50.460 example right there I mean Megan Fox I

03:43:53.740 think status yeah saying that you like I

03:43:56.580 mean Megan Fox would probably outcompete

03:43:59.240 Kim K in comparison to you I still am not

03:44:03.860 sure if I mean it's a bit more of a

03:44:07.280 challenge guys would hit what you think

03:44:09.740 you think Megan Fox would like guys would

03:44:13.360 rather I don't know actually I think

03:44:15.780 Megan Fox is like 30 I feel like guys

03:44:19.400 wouldn't hit Kim K for the fact but no you

03:44:21.540 got we're like when we think of Megan

03:44:23.060 Fox I'm thinking of like Megan Fox like

03:44:25.440 Transformers Megan yeah most guys like

03:44:27.620 you if you put Megan Fox as she if

03:44:29.980 she's Megan Fox current Megan Fox is

03:44:32.480 sitting right here she she might I don't

03:44:36.360 even know what doesn't she look kind of

03:44:38.400 it's because she's had work done on her

03:44:40.220 face so she has a lot of you know I think

03:44:42.200 Jolie still wins can we put find a

03:44:45.480 recent photo of Megan Fox she's probably

03:44:47.660 still attractive don't get me wrong but

03:44:50.380 I think Jolie still takes this one but

03:44:53.340 don't get a big head or anything no

03:44:54.740 stay humble hold it up hold it up let's

03:44:59.580 see Megan Fox oh she's beautiful oh

03:45:02.180 Jolie wins Joe I'm pretty sure Jolie

03:45:04.760 pull up Megan Fox without makeup I think

03:45:09.760 we got the idea show us the chat chat do

03:45:11.860 keep going modern Megan Fox current

03:45:14.800 Megan Fox 38 year old Megan Fox or

03:45:17.020 Jolie Jolie Jolie or I honestly

03:45:23.020 38 year old Megan Fox you agree with

03:45:25.320 Morgan yeah because guys would hit Megan

03:45:27.860 Fox but imagine a guy for the fact that

03:45:30.200 they can be like I hate Megan Fox he's

03:45:32.460 literally like no but on top of the world

03:45:34.820 by status not by look wise it has to be

03:45:36.960 yeah if it's just looks yeah there has to

03:45:38.920 be just look yeah if it's just looks

03:45:40.280 otherwise hey Jamie can you pull up a no

03:45:44.460 that's a Rojo again reference sorry not

03:45:46.460 funny that's good sorry anyways you in

03:45:53.380 your pre-show notes you said that you

03:45:55.160 have strong opinions on sexual

03:45:56.640 promiscuity yes I believe that sexual

03:46:01.940 promiscuity once again the same way being

03:46:06.080 in the corn industry damages society I think

03:46:08.660 sexual promiscuity damages society and

03:46:11.180 ruins the dating game and ruins it for

03:46:14.260 everyone people who don't even deserve it

03:46:16.460 to be ruined for I think people and women

03:46:20.600 preach about women empowerment through

03:46:22.220 sleeping around but it's actually the

03:46:23.700 opposite it's not what's the opposite of

03:46:26.300 empower deep power because there's scarcity in

03:46:33.080 in there's value in not being sexually

03:46:37.520 prom promiscuous and there's so much value

03:46:40.640 that comes from it that you'll be treated

03:46:42.920 much better for it than when you are

03:46:45.800 sexual promiscuous and I think when women

03:46:52.520 complain about having a hard time finding a

03:46:54.560 man it's because women are casually

03:46:57.680 sleeping with them to the point where men

03:46:59.540 have seen no point in putting effort into a

03:47:02.240 a date or paying paying for the day or

03:47:05.240 romancing them like romance is just done

03:47:08.300 chivalry is dead because women are giving

03:47:11.900 it up easily like that's the that's the

03:47:14.360 power that women have over men just as it

03:47:18.800 is like that's what we have over men I

03:47:20.960 think that's where our power comes from is

03:47:23.480 our keeping our sexuality for one person or

03:47:31.640 less people and you said you can argue why

03:47:34.880 body count does matter yes and you believe

03:47:39.140 it's wrong for both men and women to

03:47:40.700 casually sleep around let's go around the

03:47:42.980 table though first so do you think men who

03:47:47.700 care about a woman's body count are

03:47:51.200 insecure starting with you no do you object to

03:47:58.640 two men having that preference like if a guy didn't want to date a girl because she was promiscuous you object to that no okay what about you I think it's a little insecure because I mean me personally I don't judge if a guy has a high body count so I would expect the same a little insecure okay

03:48:21.640 okay and what about if a guy won't date you because of the work you do also insecure or

03:48:28.640 that's fine I'm not going to force you to date me but does it make it does it make them insecure no that's his decision but how how's that different than a guy not wanting to date you because of your body count well with body count I was just saying I don't judge your body count so for me like it would be a little insecure because they're judging mine I guess right but like why does that make them insecure

03:48:55.640 insecure um I don't know maybe they're worried I don't know maybe they're worried I mean I've heard this from a few guys like they're worried that their sexual skills don't compare to other men so like sure that's kind of what I'm thinking about when I say that

03:49:08.640 what if the guy is confident that he's good in the bedroom he just doesn't want to date a girl who's had a bunch of bodies that's fine that's his decision okay is he still insecure though

03:49:22.640 um I mean I guess not but you're saying it would be insecure if he was like worried about his how he measures up to other guys she slept with right yeah but if but I'm sure you can agree that there might be other reasons why a guy might not want to date a girl with a high body count yeah so what if the reasons are those and have nothing to do with him not feeling like he would measure up

03:49:51.640 I mean I guess like if you change factors I mean if a man is secure in saying I want a woman who's a virgin or I want a woman with the body count under five that means that he's secure in what he wants

03:50:09.500 but if a man um rejects me for a high body count because he is worried about like I don't know um how he compares to other men sexually that would be a rooted insecurity and most of the men that I've talked to that do judge body count it was because of that that's what they told me but again that was just what I was I do have a question on that so um

03:50:35.120 I guess we'll perhaps get this a bit uh okay we'll go there so as a woman I'm just curious I'm genuinely curious if you found out and I'll know the degree of your I don't know if you found out that a guy had been with a girl previously who was like multi-orgasmic came super easily he had to do nothing basically

03:51:02.980 whereas for you I don't know what the case is for you whereas for you I don't know what the case is for you but let's let's say that you struggle to climax during sex

03:51:10.980 maybe you can't even climax during sex but his last girl could come ten times just from intercourse

03:51:18.720 would that make you what well it's true that shit happens uh would would that make you feel insecure

03:51:27.240 no no it wouldn't make that you're nothing not not me personally no because I mean with everybody

03:51:37.120 everybody has something especially for women I feel like it's harder to climax than a man during sex

03:51:43.040 so it's like I feel like you know when you're in a relationship your partner would cater to your needs

03:51:49.620 for you to climax but I don't get insecure if a girl can climax easier just from like my perspective of being

03:51:56.700 a woman the sex that he had with his previous girl was undeniably better because of the ease with which

03:52:05.160 she could climax it doesn't make me feel insecure no not insecure even if the sex with her was better

03:52:14.380 than the sex it was with you yeah I don't feel insecure oh okay all right uh so going to you object to

03:52:21.920 men caring about body count um I think that genuinely it's not being insecure just because

03:52:28.980 like let's say I wouldn't want to you know mess with the guy that has more than a body count than

03:52:32.940 10 just simply because in the like like world that we live in everybody just messes with everybody

03:52:38.480 like literally I I'm not even gonna talk about that but like talk about it no talk about that shit

03:52:43.900 do it like it's just a lot because like you can have you know you could be talking to somebody and

03:52:49.020 then like you know they ended up you know you never knew that but they mess with your friend too

03:52:53.420 and it's like oh shit you know like what do you do then does it happen to you a lot yes because I

03:52:58.780 live in a small like I literally live in LA like downy area like everybody knows everybody it's crazy

03:53:04.880 it's crazy son uh what about you um I don't think it's about being like insecure like I don't really

03:53:11.520 care what preferences like a guy has about that okay joe well joey we've already heard your take on

03:53:20.020 that um now you said that uh you said your general stance on modern dating is that it's gone completely

03:53:27.020 downhill I believe both men and women have just lost their senses and standards you have a few hot takes

03:53:32.640 you support a dominant man submissive woman relationship traditional values you believe

03:53:37.980 sex work harm society porn harm society gender is not a social construct there are some issues with the

03:53:43.680 wokeness community um and but all that aside excuse me you said you wanted to debate the extreme red

03:53:53.540 pill ideology I don't know if you categorize this podcast as that but I wrote that a long time ago so um

03:54:02.320 like um I wouldn't say necessarily debate it but like I want to it's more like I can I've seen

03:54:10.640 extreme parts where like I remember you had forgot her name but she was saying don't you think it's a

03:54:20.200 limited mindset that you cannot commit to one girl and that's an extreme that's something that I find an

03:54:25.220 extreme is when a man says that they or encourages like if you want to do that individually sure but

03:54:33.400 if you're encouraging that it's okay to for men to sleep around while women aren't I think that's

03:54:41.020 harmful because I think it breaks women women what not woman women women oh sorry thank you um

03:54:49.060 hold on you see how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've dined

03:54:55.300 okay

03:54:56.960 R.I.P. Christopher Hitchens okay um

03:55:02.120 what makes that red pill ideology I don't know um I mean that's just what people

03:55:09.960 category categorize it as like uh just people on social media like they

03:55:18.460 can you name one um no but that doesn't mean I I'm I haven't seen it I just I'm not gonna

03:55:26.180 well you're talking about when Lila Rose was on with Justin Waller yes Lila Rose yeah and so

03:55:31.520 I mean I actually I mean I think there's actually an evolutionary argument that can be made for why

03:55:37.480 this exists now I'm not saying it's right I actually believe that uh it's better um I think

03:55:42.980 monogamy is better I think uh I don't think men or women should be promiscuous but I actually do

03:55:48.640 think that there can be an argument to be made for uh men desiring that sort of arrangement I

03:55:55.680 understand it I just don't agree with when people with big platforms like that I don't know his name

03:56:04.640 that was with Lila Rose um Justin yes I just don't agree with that being advertised because

03:56:12.220 men will see it who aren't on his level of um you know richness and will think that applies to him

03:56:20.740 wait so you're saying a guy has to be rich to be able to pull that off it's definitely more ethical

03:56:26.700 than if you're broke because you're at least providing some type of value but even then what

03:56:30.640 you mean hold on hold on if you have sex with a guy the guy has sex with you it's an equal value

03:56:38.220 exchange what repeat that it's a sex is an equal value exchange a lot of women don't view it that

03:56:45.120 way but sex if I get sex you get sex too and I can actually make an argument y'all are the ones that

03:56:52.340 can come like multiple times but that's not what I believe sex is better for y'all that's not the part

03:56:56.760 that I'm arguing isn't valuable what I'm arguing is women do get jealous and they do like loyalty on

03:57:03.080 the other end and if they're sorry I think I am saying women I just don't think I'm pronouncing it

03:57:09.040 I do say women well you I could totally wrong I don't know over watch it you could totally be right

03:57:14.240 sorry but um I just believe that either way it is harmful because what I what what I care about the

03:57:25.640 most is family structure that's the emphasis so anytime I disagree with the corn industry um sexual

03:57:32.440 promiscuity it's because it destroys the family structure Justin is that his name he I don't know

03:57:40.220 him personally but I know from what it how he speaks he probably has multiple families that don't have

03:57:47.540 him always present and I actually think that's a root to the issues that I'm not saying I agree with

03:57:52.720 that like sexual promiscuity and people going to the corn industry it's from a lack of a father in

03:57:57.800 the home people like to say oh fatherless activities and it's well I agree but I also agree that we

03:58:03.340 shouldn't have fathers handling multiple families even if they say they can I do not think that's

03:58:08.200 helpful I have a dad I understand that but I have a dad too but it doesn't mean it's always um I want

03:58:15.860 to hear your evolution argument I want to hear your evolution argument against this okay so

03:58:20.720 if a woman has 10 husbands and they're all they're all sleeping with her who's the father you don't

03:58:33.440 know whereas if a man has 10 wives you know who the father is in each instance and you know who the

03:58:41.440 mother is in each instance so on that basis and this is one of the reasons not just for kind of

03:58:47.520 why that sort of arrangement might be more appealing to men and unappealing in the reverse uh it's also a

03:58:56.640 strong argument when it comes to men's stronger um shoot what's called men's stronger disgust response

03:59:05.100 to promise promiscuity in women

03:59:06.780 so okay I know the body count thing is separate but men's stronger disgust response when it comes to

03:59:20.900 female promiscuity one of those reasons is due to paternity uncertainty so if a woman's promiscuous

03:59:26.860 and she is sleeping with 10 10 men this is before the age of DNA tests right yeah uh you can't determine

03:59:35.960 who the father is so it's a major uh major one of the biggest uh L's a man can take in his life

03:59:44.440 is to be raising like a child who he thinks is his who he's been tricked into believing is his but

03:59:51.840 actually isn't um so I think that's why that arrangement is I'm not advocating for that sort

04:00:00.300 of arrangement but I can understand why it's uh perhaps more acceptable yeah I I agree I never

04:00:06.400 disagreed on why it's more acceptable I definitely agree that if it's going to happen if it's going to

04:00:11.620 be done that way it should be like that I just disagree with having it on a platform and encouraging

04:00:18.400 it or making it normal normalizing it I think Andrew Tate and Sneeko I love Andrew Tate the only part

04:00:26.180 is like I don't really agree with is when he'll say stuff like oh and what's his religion is

04:00:32.280 they're like they're like okay they're like um oh in our religion we can have four wives but

04:00:42.800 that that there's a context to that you can have four wives because um I mean it says that they can

04:00:49.020 have four wives because I believe it's because there was a scarcity of men that could take care of

04:00:54.960 a what like um why their wives so multiple women would have would be dependent because women were

04:01:01.760 dependent on men they needed to kind of share the husband what's changed um in this society I don't

04:01:07.880 think there's a scarcity like right now we women are entirely dependent in like as they are in that

04:01:16.000 context or culture so why so while I agree with you in principle that um that polygamy is bad

04:01:23.020 polygamy and polygamy is bad yeah there's a big huge gaping hole in your argument okay which is

04:01:31.340 you're referencing hypergamy this is the idea that women will go towards a man who has a ton of

04:01:39.460 resources and so you point this out you say there's a scarcity of men who have the resources that can

04:01:44.600 take care of x amount of women but wouldn't it follow then that women would be attracted to men

04:01:49.880 who have the capability of doing that for them um yes there are so then in modernity that would still

04:01:58.340 include a small select few amount of men who could do that yeah so then I don't see what the

04:02:06.740 disagreement would actually be I just I disagree with um the way it's portrayed on social media like

04:02:14.340 if you like I could you could I could you could totally flame me for this but the way I perceive or

04:02:22.080 the way it comes across is that these people a lot of these influencers like on fresh and fit

04:02:26.660 myron agitates nico justin they're like oh I'm traditional we love traditional women

04:02:31.140 da da da da but they aren't traditional and they are in some ways but they

04:02:35.880 they're they have this platform and other people are going to see what they're doing and it's not

04:02:41.160 going to contribute to society they're going to have multiple families multiple and although

04:02:46.100 there's women that are attracted to it I could also argue not every woman is in love maybe like I

04:02:53.900 understand attracted and can grow to love a man but it's it I guess it's a to each don what you value

04:03:00.820 like if like personally if I was a man I'd have some sort of insecurity if like a woman needs to be

04:03:07.020 with me and I like you know what I'm saying like I need to sleep around not really I can only sleep

04:03:13.200 around if like so let's well let's back up do you think that hypergamy is real yes then I don't

04:03:20.120 understand your argument okay I just think it's you know technically it's ethical to you know

04:03:28.000 be hypergamous and then have the man sleep around it's value in that there's value that they're

04:03:32.840 providing to each other and it's fair but to society and to kids it's ruining the family structure and

04:03:37.920 that's what I mean then how is it ethical it's ethical in the context that for like between the

04:03:42.380 two people in the in the relationship okay it works for them but the kids are being affected and the

04:03:46.360 family is being affected well what what is our ethical standard we're using here for this

04:03:51.080 harm is it are you just using like a basic harm ethical standard

04:03:54.920 psychological harms are multiple factors that could lower the value of a good family like like I said to

04:04:04.840 her I don't like even if kids will turn out fine I don't it comes off as mediocre it's not the intention

04:04:11.320 of having the best for that kid and and you're not looking for what's best for them if you're

04:04:17.960 okay with the father going back and forth between families and also for overall society men aren't being

04:04:26.600 encouraged to live a fulfilling life and have deeper connections where they're just committed to one

04:04:32.120 woman if they're sleeping around okay so

04:04:39.720 those guys aren't here tate's not here waller's not here it's not a position I hold don't really feel

04:04:45.480 inclined to devil's advocate their position so moving on uh you said you disagreed with the host

04:04:52.520 what uh you disagreed with the host was when they were kind of mocking or calling this girl

04:04:56.600 a dictator in her marriage for finding her husband through rotational dating you do believe

04:05:03.000 rotational dating is good for women uh so rotational dating means what exactly um so that I've seen

04:05:12.360 people on tiktok completely not use that term correctly and make it like they ended up just like

04:05:22.040 hoeing around but in this specific episode you had someone who rotationally dated which meant that she

04:05:29.320 would date she wouldn't kiss wouldn't touch wouldn't even hold their hand and she would just get to know

04:05:35.720 them through conversation look at their values and then whoever was the best for her and her eyes in

04:05:42.440 her rotation she would marry or the person that like proposed I don't know what her standards were but

04:05:48.680 it's very similar to how women used to kind of date like no nothing intimate physically um just see what's

04:06:00.200 out there and so you so you're saying a woman should for example be dating five men at the same time and

04:06:09.080 pick the best one um talking to them if that's what we consider because some people don't consider that

04:06:16.360 dating uh like talking to them just talking yes if you cross the line and you turn into something

04:06:22.440 physical that's where it's wrong if you're being physical with five people at the same time that's

04:06:26.680 wrong but if you're talking to them just talking to them that's so what about just going on dates

04:06:31.320 but nothing physical happens that's good that's good yeah so for example I really like this girl

04:06:37.400 and I take her on a date and then she goes on a date with another guy immediately after my date with

04:06:46.040 her totally cool no problems yeah if she's open about it and most she's open she tells me this yeah

04:06:54.440 I mean most likely the guy most likely people who are going on dates aren't loyal I mean they're on that

04:07:01.400 date for reasons because they're single and they want to get to know people so they're getting to know

04:07:05.080 people multiple times they're not being loyal to anyone or committed to anyone and most likely

04:07:10.200 people aren't going to do two dates on the same day but if what if they did then sure no problem

04:07:14.840 yeah well I suppose a woman could do that yeah she could do that from the guy's perspective though

04:07:22.960 uh which you seem to often ignore uh no I'm willing to I trust me I'm right so at least in in my book

04:07:31.440 so even if I'm on a first date with a girl and she tells me by the way I have a date with a guy

04:07:38.680 after I hang out with you I've instantly lost all interest I don't care how attractive she is

04:07:46.140 I don't care how cool she is well she's just been she's precluded from me ever taking her seriously

04:07:52.760 if she states it in that way like I'm going on a date after you it doesn't no no no she could say

04:07:57.520 in the most congenial polite way possible I would still just disregard her what if she told you

04:08:06.040 I'm going uh like if you because on the first day you're getting to know each other and you're trying

04:08:11.480 to see each other's values you get to know her values and you ask her are you traditional and

04:08:15.800 how do you date like how do you and it comes up that well I'm traditional I'm a virgin I'm don't

04:08:20.940 sleep around I don't touch I don't kiss I don't do any of that she's never kissed someone

04:08:24.360 and she's like and I'm dating around and I'm a virgin I'm just waiting till marriage and I'm

04:08:31.280 molt shouldn't ask me that go ahead and and she goes on she lets you know that she's going on a

04:08:38.860 second date because she's looking because of how picky she is on who she's going to lose her virginity

04:08:45.580 okay but so we have 52 weeks in a year so let's just let's just say like why do you need to go on

04:08:58.980 five dates in a week like even if I grant you as a woman like do you think going on one date a week

04:09:07.320 is like that's too little that would be 52 first dates in a year I mean are you that pressed when

04:09:15.600 it comes to your dating life that you got to be dating like five dudes at the same time like 52

04:09:21.080 first dates in a year is a fuck ton of people I wouldn't argue for like date and I would like

04:09:27.680 I'm not arguing like date like talk to people have five days in a week what I so that's what

04:09:33.060 rotational dating is isn't it no rotational dating like the woman that you brought on

04:09:37.780 is when you're talking to people you don't have to have five dates with them in the same week it

04:09:42.560 means you're talking to them so like you yeah I wouldn't be interested in that girl I mean that's

04:09:50.620 you I mean at least look maybe my standards are a little crazy that's kind of the point of

04:09:55.200 rotational dating is to eliminate who is who works for you who doesn't and as you guys understand the

04:10:00.380 value the dating pool value is the most women have the most when they're young which is why they

04:10:05.340 don't have time to waste their time is precious and they need a they need to hurry up they they're

04:10:10.180 looking to marry and they want to lose their virginity to someone special hey it might not have time

04:10:14.060 to play around save you time and it might work for you I'm just saying that at least my standard would

04:10:20.880 be if we go on the first date and if you're like going on a date later that night I would feel kind

04:10:28.160 of weird about it but I'll say this if I go on the first date with the girl and if she wants a second

04:10:33.180 date with me and there's other dudes in the picture I'm not interested I mean I'm arguing that there's

04:10:39.140 nothing wrong with rotational dating and most likely someone that's doing rotational dating you can look

04:10:44.200 as a girl you can do it I'm just saying I think you have the potential there to lose a guy who you

04:10:50.580 would otherwise like and secondly I'm actually advising men if you I mean look if you're interested

04:10:58.200 in something serious as a guy if you go on the first date with the girl she wants a second date

04:11:04.080 and she's still dating other dudes I think it's a wrap I think it has to be a wrap yeah I mean you keep

04:11:11.180 I don't know yeah yeah I do I mean she's right right so I'm trying to think of it from her perspective

04:11:16.920 from from a woman's perspective here and even from a man's perspective if the idea is that chastity

04:11:24.000 and virginity is virtuous and it's important and you have knowledge that this woman is willing to

04:11:32.740 marry you while she's young knowing that that is a thing of value and if she dates she's not having

04:11:39.280 physical intimacy with any men I don't actually see why that would be problematic

04:11:45.380 what do you mean well how would it actually be problematic if she's let's say a woman's dating

04:11:52.540 five different guys but is physically intimate with none of them and is a chaste virgin her isn't that

04:11:59.380 like if you if you had a daughter if you were going to advise her in dating and he wanted her to get the

04:12:05.240 best spouse possible wouldn't you advise her to have a physical relationship with none but to date many

04:12:11.760 well I mean I would say that while I mean they're in terms of her sexual attention you're saying she's

04:12:17.560 not having sex with anybody yeah that's off the table her romantic interest is divided so

04:12:25.120 well in the same way that you could cheat on a partner if you're an option you could cheat on a

04:12:30.780 partner without having sex with somebody else for me and look people have different timelines as to

04:12:36.600 what's acceptable when what's not acceptable yeah I and also I would just think like even if she goes on

04:12:44.120 this if I go on a first date with a girl first date and she tells me I have another date planned

04:12:49.920 immediately after some people might not have an issue with that I just feel like that's just kind of

04:12:56.120 generally disrespectful she's she can do it that's just how I I would feel well I just think it would

04:13:05.720 be yeah I mean that's fair I'm just I'm trying to think of how you have a win condition so what's the

04:13:10.640 win condition in dating so I think the win condition for for most young men is I want a woman with a

04:13:16.340 really low body count virgin preferably but if I'm going to get this valuable thing which is a virgin

04:13:24.980 going to bury bury my children they have x amount of years like she she points out we have very few

04:13:30.660 years that are fertile to give you lots of children if they're starting at 22 23 that's good right 26 27

04:13:38.600 not so great so if we're talking about a limited window between 18 24 we got six years um it seems

04:13:46.840 like if they were out dating uh multiple men but having a physical relationship with none of them

04:13:53.260 that that would broaden their options to the point where they could try to select for that best

04:13:57.460 partner it seems like it's a win condition for both well so I guess let me ask you this so you're saying

04:14:03.400 this woman's a virgin she's waiting until marriage um now in this scenario let's say she goes on just

04:14:13.380 one date a week so that this scenario of and like if she likes the guy she'll continue seeing him and

04:14:19.660 she won't date other men right she won't go on dates with other men but you're saying well if she

04:14:24.880 has the opportunity to kind of be uh considering multiple suitors not sex just just on dates multiple

04:14:32.660 suitors say five suitors at the same same time so within a week or two period she's gone on five dates

04:14:40.800 with these different men and she's she's still kind of considering all of them so she's going to continue

04:14:44.920 going on second dates I mean I would think that a woman who's a virgin who's not immediately jumping

04:14:50.800 into bed who's desirous of marriage if there's 52 weeks and she starts dating at 18 there's 52 weeks

04:14:56.840 in a year what would actually be wrong with her with just going on one date per week that would be 52

04:15:02.980 first dates in a year that's a lot of first dates and so if we we expand that out I mean we can we can

04:15:10.220 say that right but let's say it's uh it's every three days she's got the gold bar if she's got the gold

04:15:17.940 bar everybody wants the gold bar she's got it and so if she does and it's that valuable and everybody

04:15:25.200 else is wasting their gold bar so all women are all given this gold bar that all the men desire and

04:15:30.300 they just like give it to them for free so one of them looks at it and says wait a second this is

04:15:34.440 really fucking valuable i can get whatever i want with this why the fuck would you discourage

04:15:41.800 him right at that point it seems like they did everything right the very same women that we're

04:15:48.100 complaining about are the women that will give you the time for free just for you they will they will

04:15:54.600 stop talking to other guys and then just date you easily those are those the women that men say are

04:16:00.840 ran through a lot of the times are women that have been in multiple relationships because they have

04:16:05.180 been gone on the first date liked the guy decided to jump into a committed relationship then broke up

04:16:11.400 it didn't work out because that was the only option they saw then they jumped into another relationship

04:16:15.320 and then continue to sleep yeah i'm not sure about that but i am sure that um if if you're dating

04:16:22.660 multiple suitors and you're not sleeping with them i don't see how the opposite sex could have

04:16:30.520 an issue with that if they say well i just want pure exclusivity with you on the first date

04:16:35.080 um i think that's good and on the first date not like on the first date but like if you really

04:16:41.200 genuine like me personally like i went on a date last week and i really live with this person but

04:16:45.340 your gold bar is gone right huh your gold bar was already given away for free right so let's let's

04:16:53.420 let us assume virginity is a golden bar that when you're born but half this generation no one's a virgin

04:16:59.400 yeah okay just because half of the people give away their gold bar 95 it's a lot more than let's

04:17:04.280 say okay let's say let's say let's say 99.9 give in fact that's the best example okay let's say 99

04:17:11.880 percent give away the gold bar doesn't that make the remaining one percent of gold bars even more

04:17:17.160 valuable exactly but a guy you think that a guy that wants to grow that's a gold bar also has his gold

04:17:22.860 bar but no no no hang on hang on back up who cares but if the man who has his gold bar and doesn't

04:17:31.940 have his gold bar and by the way for men it's not a gold bar for women it's a gold bar okay no so it's

04:17:37.420 a different standard so it's just yes oh no no wait wait fair wait a second who the hell who the hell

04:17:44.440 said who the hell said you said that women if you're a virgin it's a gold bar but if you're a guy it's

04:17:49.660 okay listen the thing here's what gives things value what gives things value what gives the money

04:17:54.860 in your pocket value what gives that camera value what gives the screen value is the fact that people

04:18:00.340 desire it as long as women desire men who don't have a gold bar men aren't ever going to keep a

04:18:07.200 gold bar because women don't fucking want a gold bar the distinction is is that men do and so that's

04:18:13.280 what makes it valuable but men want a gold bar to satisfy their ego so right i would say there's like

04:18:18.640 hang on hang on so what do they want it yeah okay then if they want it it's valuable right yeah

04:18:25.440 then if it's valuable and you gave this really valuable thing away for free and the chick next

04:18:30.940 to you isn't she's like nah that was really dumb no you had a million dollar gold bar and you just

04:18:37.080 gave it to this fucking asshole okay okay what if what if like the guy that wants the gold bar he gets

04:18:41.640 the gold bar he has her everything good to go but then he's like oh she's not a gold bar anymore let

04:18:45.960 me go find another one that's why you wait till marriage but what if you because then it's really

04:18:50.780 hard right what if you wait till marriage and you do it on the first night you're like oh damn i don't

04:18:55.140 like this bar do you think so that's a let's engage with the argument okay do you think that men who

04:19:03.920 marry virgins on their wedding night are more likely or less likely to get divorced more guess what

04:19:10.880 you're gonna this is gonna blow your mind i'm wrong way less likely why would you say that is

04:19:16.000 because i'm like with them like i feel like there's more a relationship that's viable than virginity

04:19:21.820 though might as well stay because it's because no it's because chastity is directly linked with

04:19:25.840 religion and so the more religious people are the more they tend to say chase and the thing that keeps

04:19:31.800 their marriage together those are the men who they value virtue what if they're not religious if

04:19:37.500 they're not religious they still value virtue and even in those relationships yes even in well

04:19:43.340 you don't even have to scientifically test it you can use statistics true so even in i mean that is

04:19:49.600 science but it's it's not it's not hard science wait but using statistics even virgin women who get

04:19:56.300 married to non-virgin men who are secularist still end up staying married longer but they could

04:20:01.480 they could like still stay married but what about is a man cheating that's a little wait hold on

04:20:05.880 do you think that a man cheating would be a requisite which would lead to divorce yes well then they

04:20:13.340 must cheat less right you don't know that yes we do know that because we have the statistics on the

04:20:18.360 reason given for divorce but everybody gets divorced for different reasons yes but they give a top four

04:20:24.580 reasons okay and infidelity is low on the list it's usually just partner dissatisfaction interestingly

04:20:30.440 enough men who end up with virgins tend to have the least amount of partner dissatisfaction what a

04:20:36.000 shock like sexually like in the like you know when they're having sex yeah i don't know where this

04:20:40.920 idea comes from that like and you should know this because of the industry you're in but all the parts

04:20:46.940 basically work the same way with everybody they don't really work very very differently between

04:20:53.360 different people every man's penis is essentially designed for every woman's vagina and vice versa the idea of

04:21:00.300 sexual compatibility is not really a thing most people most people historically right they got

04:21:07.980 married without ever having sex and they stayed married their whole lives and most of them had good

04:21:12.860 sex lives because we're designed to have sex with each other we're designed that way you can sense the

04:21:18.060 tension too without doing it like the chemistry yeah oh i'm really super attracted to you until i got you

04:21:24.700 naked and had sex with you said no guy ever in history yeah no no yeah literally that could be

04:21:28.980 impossible i could be super attracted to a guy i think he's super like you know cute but he's just

04:21:33.100 like not like i don't just don't vibe with him i couldn't like you know what are you comparing it to

04:21:37.060 though if he's your only partner right so that's why they would stay married longer because they have

04:21:41.500 nothing good this is bad why it's not bad well i mean it's like if there's better out there like

04:21:48.460 sexually oh so they should all so they should all be a bunch of skanks because they could find mr

04:21:54.220 right no no no not at all what i was arguing um is that i feel like the at least from my perspective

04:22:01.420 the reason why a man would want a virgin is because the virgin doesn't have anything to compare it to so

04:22:08.300 there's no competition it's not just that it's just like they only had one boyfriend so what he should

04:22:14.060 do so then let's use the reverse of this okay so would you advise a man then to go to his virgin

04:22:21.180 soon-to-be wife and say you know honey you should go out and fuck at least 10 guys before we get

04:22:27.200 married so you know that i'm the right one no but i then what would you advise them to do marriage

04:22:32.440 lasting longer and i feel like it's just not relevant to the factors of a marriage lasting longer

04:22:37.560 just because she's only had one sexual partner you know why would that not be relevant i don't think

04:22:43.180 it's relevant because there's like i feel like i've heard from women that were married or were in a

04:22:51.340 committed relationship with one guy that like they weren't sexually satisfied but they stayed with them

04:22:56.440 anyway you know what i mean so it's like darn i feel like they wait they were with the person that

04:23:02.320 they loved and they weren't sexually satisfied so they got rid of their heated so wait so they set

04:23:06.880 aside you love them so they set aside their hedonism in order for to obtain higher value those sons of

04:23:14.200 bitches you realize that hedonism and self-pleasure is not the purpose of life and if you get married

04:23:22.320 to somebody make a commitment to them why would it be a problem for you to keep a commitment because you

04:23:26.780 feel like you're unsatisfied in a single area of life right and that's the that's the complicated part

04:23:32.260 that's why for me at least me personally like i would never marry someone that i didn't know i had

04:23:38.060 sexual chemistry with you know what i mean like that's why i do think you can have sex before

04:23:43.260 marriage because if you i feel like sexual chemistry is very important in the relationship i don't feel

04:23:49.160 like sexual chemistry is hard between people i don't you pretty girl you handsome guy they have said

04:23:55.480 mostly i don't agree because you don't agree right imagine you can feel that because i've liked sex

04:24:02.180 better with this person but maybe not with this guy you know but it's like yeah but but this is

04:24:07.260 because you're making a comparison between many guys assume for a second that you had what you

04:24:13.120 consider right this second to be mediocre sex but you were a virgin right and to you it was the best

04:24:19.540 feeling thing on planet absent the comparison warlord 69 you donated 69 dollars ladies understand once

04:24:28.700 you are on the internet it's lights camera action you are never truly valuable once you've given up the

04:24:34.560 controls to your brain they joke in your reality what does that mean thank you warlord he's just saying

04:24:42.660 that once you put nudes of yourself out it's forever right or you have sex with guys on camera it's

04:24:47.800 forever which is true of course but anyway so back to this assuming for a second you were a virgin

04:24:52.880 you married a man you had what you would right now consider to be mediocre sex with that man

04:24:58.680 but it was still the best feeling thing you'd ever you'd ever had because there was nothing there was

04:25:03.720 nothing else compared to how the world could you in the world could you make a reference

04:25:08.600 that oh it could be better over here no no that's not what i'm saying what i was saying

04:25:14.320 is that i feel like from what i've heard from a lot of women that are divorced they didn't have the

04:25:22.680 level of sexual chemistry that they wanted and had all of those women been fucked by other dudes

04:25:27.460 before their husband i i don't know what would you think i mean i'd like the perspective of a virgin

04:25:35.160 person right now that only had one partner because i don't have that perspective so i don't know well

04:25:41.120 what virgins report is that they're highly satisfied in their sexual relationships that's what they report

04:25:46.780 when they're asked good for them okay let's say let's say it's a virgin and you know a guy whatever

04:25:51.780 they get married and everything and they're just together for 10 years what happens in the in those 10 years

04:25:55.900 they're just like oh i just don't want to be with you anymore what happens what happens if you're not

04:26:00.320 a virgin and that happens that's why either or because you're saying that people who aren't virgins

04:26:05.100 last longer in their marriages so what happens if that's not the case what happens with anybody if

04:26:10.620 it's not the case no but i'm directing it specifically to your comment on saying that but it's it i'm

04:26:15.800 explaining to you why it's a nonsensical circular question so what if i retain my virginity and then have

04:26:21.520 the same outcome as if i didn't retain my virginity that's what i'm saying it's not different yeah no

04:26:28.680 it's different so again let's let us assume that we have nine virgins one non-virgin okay the outcome

04:26:37.880 for the non-virgin x bad okay now let's say it's it's worse than these you know the non-virgin the

04:26:45.380 outcome is worse than the nine okay now we take two of those virgins who also get married and they have

04:26:50.920 the same outcome as that non-virgin which group is still more likely to have better outcomes

04:26:55.460 the virgins the virgins so even if it were true that some virgins have bad outcomes similar to those

04:27:07.980 who are not virgins at marriage most virgins still have better outcomes than them right okay

04:27:14.560 that's if you know men like the man that's marrying that woman cares about their virginity you know their

04:27:19.420 specific virginity let's say not every man views it as being the gold bar yeah so you remember how

04:27:24.560 you said every there yeah right and i agree with you not every man does right but let me counter with

04:27:30.920 this do you think that most men if they could take you they could take you these are your romantic

04:27:38.140 partners but they could take away every man you've ever fucked before them would they yeah okay then

04:27:43.760 anything else you guys want to add to that gotcha bitch nick nick why you gotta come on bro

04:27:50.900 why you gotta do what about you do you think any romantic partner that you have who's a man

04:27:56.440 that's a good question if they could unfuck you would they do it like you're saying oh like so it

04:28:04.060 well but doesn't that would they do it but doesn't that would they do it i i guess but

04:28:11.200 like well then the question doesn't the question now okay but then that's an insecure man secure

04:28:17.380 why is it insecure because you don't want her to have any comparison except you what if that's not

04:28:22.900 the reason that doesn't make sense what's the reason what was our last chance i don't know have

04:28:26.940 you have you ever had a traumatic sexual relationship like you dated guy hang on it was traumatic i'm

04:28:33.200 going to use your logic back okay a man doesn't want a woman because she has 10 kids he's insecure

04:28:41.900 right but that brings kids hang on he's insecure or not insecure no because there's 10 children that

04:28:49.340 he would have to be a father wait a second wait that's not the same as hang on hang on hang on

04:28:53.040 he's not insecure if she has 10 kids right i just want to make sure we got that answer no not not

04:28:59.840 insecure or he's insecure if you won't date her because she has 10 kids i definitely think that

04:29:06.080 he has a spot to be insecure simply because he still would have to deal with her the past why would

04:29:11.260 that be insecurity though but your question is would a man be insecure if a lady has 10 kids

04:29:18.880 my question is if a man didn't want a lady with 10 kids does that make him insecure no it just makes

04:29:25.720 him he just has self-respect and he doesn't feel comfortable being with a woman who has

04:29:29.000 multiple kids with different guys so he has a preference self-respect right and part of self

04:29:34.600 respect his preference yeah that's his preference is to not be with the woman so if your preference

04:29:38.780 is to be with a virgin and not with a woman who has a high body count that's not insecurity that's

04:29:43.180 perfectly it's not insecurity right not the woman that simple sleeping around are risking having kids

04:29:49.640 it's kind of almost the same thing the only difference is the actual part of having the kids

04:29:53.880 like the woman with 10 kids with different men it's kind of the same thing with the woman that

04:29:58.740 sleeps around because she's still risking pregnancy with all of those men the same way a woman was

04:30:03.020 willing to get pregnant by all those men and have those kids i think it comes down to that it's just

04:30:07.700 unattractive that a woman would disrespect herself because respect is attractive to be willing to risk

04:30:13.960 pregnancy stis and all and just be willing to be that intimate with someone when they just met them

04:30:19.900 or without certain requirements it doesn't it's just it's basic psychology when someone not only

04:30:25.920 that but think about it let's let's insert yourself in a man's shoes for a second on your wedding night

04:30:32.000 you say this really valuable thing i saved it for you how good of a feeling would that be for a man

04:30:39.960 i know but we're already married but what about a girl though okay we're not adding hang on engage with

04:30:46.800 what i'm asking first and then change the conditionals that's fair right from a man's

04:30:52.940 perspective let's say you're a man tomorrow you wake up and you're a man okay right and a woman

04:30:58.180 on your wedding night says i saved my virginity for you because that's how much i love you right

04:31:07.120 i'm sorry would you not be extremely pleased and happy with that outcome

04:31:12.620 i mean she's marrying me she chose to say yes to the marriage that would already be enough for me as

04:31:20.160 a man yeah but okay but she kept her virginity and told you those words i kept myself chaste to give

04:31:28.360 this to you right because she felt like i was the right person to write to you how would you not how

04:31:34.440 would that not make you feel like a million bucks as a man i don't know i just i don't know i don't

04:31:38.680 that's i don't know isn't an argument no no but i'm saying in my mind i don't view virginity as

04:31:43.620 valuable i'm not asking you i'm not asking you to view it from your perspective i'm asking you this

04:31:49.640 assume for a second that i crammed a man's brain into your head okay and then your physiology changed

04:31:58.100 tomorrow and now you're in a man's body and now suddenly your value structure and the way you think

04:32:03.160 things change and in your head you crave women who have a low body count you marry a woman who's a

04:32:10.540 virgin and on her wedding night she says these words to you i saved my virginity for you nobody else

04:32:18.340 ever got this but you because that's how much i love you how could a woman ever give you the man

04:32:25.140 a better gift than that

04:32:26.740 i mean i don't know i just i think the marriage what else could she give that could ever be more

04:32:33.260 valuable than that what else yes to marriage a kid a child saying yes to marriage i feel like that

04:32:38.400 means more than a virginity no i feel like if i hang on hang on anybody who's a man can give you a kid

04:32:44.480 who's fertile which is most men right you can only give your virginity to one man

04:32:51.740 right so if that is the case you saying well i chose to marry you right and i'm fertile so i can

04:32:58.520 accept your seed you can do that with any man correct but you can only give your virginity to

04:33:03.160 one and if you say i gave this to you this one man he's the only one who's ever going to have that

04:33:10.100 no other man ever will how could you give him something more valuable than that there's nothing

04:33:14.360 else you could ever exchange to him that that uh couldn't be replaced with something else you

04:33:19.660 couldn't give him a car that he couldn't replace you couldn't give him a gold bar he couldn't

04:33:23.740 replace you couldn't give him anything that could not be replaced except that that's the only thing

04:33:29.620 you could ever give a man that he can't replace but how long is that high going to last like oh i

04:33:35.720 took her virginity like i'm like i feel great how long is that virginity of your wife hopefully for

04:33:41.280 life i don't know she gave you the most valuable thing she had ever that she'll ever have but again

04:33:49.360 like i mean i don't know i just i i just i don't see like what's valuable about virginity

04:33:55.740 it's not it's not what i'm not understanding again what determines value it's what people want

04:34:02.660 that's the society view yeah it's what people want right no i believe yeah but well you know what

04:34:07.940 let me ask you i don't know what gives what gives money value i don't even know it's nebulous

04:34:12.500 warlord 69 you woo donated 69 dollars brian please do not allow these women to speak while andrew is

04:34:20.760 asking a question directly to one women poison women terry's already proof with that rage quit today

04:34:27.260 i don't know no spoiler for today's hog episode they've been they've been totally reasonable this

04:34:32.120 entire episode i don't i don't i actually don't know what that warlord thank thank you for the uh tts man

04:34:37.620 um i do want to uh maybe we can come back to that a little later i do want to move it on a little

04:34:42.880 bit going around the table uh i got to get through some of my commonly asked questions here at the end

04:34:49.220 uh would you rather be a would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear

04:34:56.860 starting with you a random man really i thought you were going to say bear that surprised me

04:35:04.360 no no yeah um a random man because then he could build us a shelter and then he would go get food

04:35:15.300 for me and then like if there was a bear he would just kill it okay reasonable response i think a

04:35:21.980 bear because they're so cute no seriously and because like let's say like there is a man the bear

04:35:27.500 can just kill the man if the man don't like the man you know like a caveman like a caveman it's

04:35:32.860 because the bears are cute i just don't see a reason being stuck in a wood with a random man

04:35:36.560 they'll kill me

04:35:38.040 what about you oh we're just gonna morgan's answered it like a bunch okay um i think i liked your answer

04:35:47.260 about the the man because okay what about you um a man because most likely the average man is not

04:35:54.660 gonna like you you do realize these aren't koala bears

04:35:57.900 they're not cute panda bears is it a sloth bear it could be a fucking grizzly bear but grizzly

04:36:05.160 bears are cute oh they're cute oh why why why friend or why friend shaped if not friend let me

04:36:11.000 let me ask you this question okay i'm going to agree with you that most grizzly bears are cuter than

04:36:18.420 most men would you say that yeah but if you went over and patted a random man on the head

04:36:24.820 or a random grizzly bear on the head which one do you think would be more likely to fucking kill you

04:36:29.860 well obviously a bear oh well obviously a bear so now which one would you rather be trapped with

04:36:35.800 in the forest again a bear oh okay checks out makes sense yeah it makes sense totally rational

04:36:42.720 i could see that well okay next question going around the table who's the primary victim of war men or

04:36:50.360 women men wait what of a war yeah you mean like that are drafted to the military men no that's not

04:37:01.380 the question just war war in general the victim of war yeah victim men okay women just being a

04:37:09.740 contrarian yeah that's what that was what i was detecting there yeah men um men okay why are women

04:37:18.900 the primary victim of war because i made that shit up right now because you guys sexualize you guys

04:37:22.620 sexualize a lot men sexualize women a lot what does that have to do with that's war no i don't know

04:37:28.500 i don't know what kind of war i don't know what kind of war they're killing it's not the war for

04:37:33.180 helen of troy like what would you oh like the war like fighting what war what the fuck are you

04:37:39.980 what war do you think we're talking about here no the war you're referring to

04:37:43.980 we're not talking about world war sex like what are you talking about okay like can you specific

04:37:51.700 like be specific with the question war and what how is it not specific you said you said you said what

04:37:56.840 what was the question okay let's start let's back up what is a war a war there's so many like there

04:38:03.340 could be a war between like whatever was going on yeah yeah that's a war what is a war um like

04:38:08.960 shooting killing opposites countries and who usually fights those men well like guys yes i thought we

04:38:16.720 were talking about so who's the primary victim of war guys oh okay so then why did you say women

04:38:22.320 because i thought you were meaning it and like like you know boy to girl way not like fighting

04:38:28.080 like war has there been a great man versus woman war that i'm not aware of i think she probably heard

04:38:33.280 like in general like in life because you know how we're talking about dating and whatnot i didn't

04:38:37.000 think we were talking about like you know war war like guns shooting yeah but i mean war war would

04:38:42.060 have a relationship to dating when you consider that there's wars going on all over the world

04:38:46.160 and women do have to make choices when it comes to whether or not they're going to date soldiers

04:38:50.740 whether or not they're going to date men during wartime because there's going to be drafts well

04:38:54.240 a lot of women don't a lot of women choose to not date men that you know are marines or simply

04:38:58.980 because it's just difficult sure sure i totally agree with that but that's why the question is asked

04:39:03.240 who's the primary victim men or women so they based on that answer they determine bear underscore in

04:39:10.240 underscore the underscore was donated 69 get these delusional entitled baby gravy storage units out of my

04:39:19.020 damn forest we don't even want to eat them hashtag stop hawk code damn okay thank you bear in the woods

04:39:26.860 appreciate it bro thank you boo bear appreciate it

04:39:30.820 is that a rage quit um is that a rage quit or

04:39:47.940 is it a rage quit i think so chat i think there's i think there's a rage quit

04:39:55.540 i think it's a rage quit should we just whisper about it while she can still hear us

04:40:01.380 i think

04:40:03.940 is it is it rage is that a rage quit are you rage quitting or hello are you rage quitting or

04:40:14.820 no i just was like oh yeah sorry i was like an Irish accent but you guys were like good conversation

04:40:24.980 do you want to answer a few more questions

04:40:30.180 um no

04:40:33.940 you should wait stay for another how about like 15 does that sound good

04:40:37.220 can you can i get fit before you what can you fit me before i go no we're in the middle of the show

04:40:46.660 so you can figure that out i guess

04:40:54.980 okay yeah no i'm gonna head out but okay yeah so yeah yep okay you can leave

04:40:59.620 have a good night it was nice to meet you yep ah what a mess today all right

04:41:12.260 uh can we get people back at the table uh here can you guys scoot down this way

04:41:17.460 morgan you'll take that seat no just like take take her seat take her seat

04:41:23.060 together oh i have to move like

04:41:27.060 i don't want to talk about my dating life i don't want to talk about my date oh i don't feel like

04:41:32.180 talking

04:41:42.660 fucking waste of a seat bro

04:41:44.660 fucking nothing the whole show all right

04:41:47.220 all right sorry i'm on my period

04:41:55.620 uh okay um well um

04:42:09.140 the fuck is going on back there

04:42:10.660 i don't know i'm sorry hold on

04:42:19.140 i am

04:42:23.060 okay um

04:42:27.300 uh let's see hold on well uh here we're gonna do sorry guys just

04:42:35.700 it's always annoying man um we're gonna do

04:42:40.660 uh brother i'm sorry they're fucking talking back there she can

04:42:44.340 if she wants to stay in the studio she can rejoin the panel otherwise she needs to kindly exit the

04:42:50.420 studio can we can we have that

04:43:04.820 oh my god okay um

04:43:06.660 um

04:43:08.900 sorry guys it's just frustrating people no show people cancel

04:43:12.500 your friend fucking canceled we wouldn't have had to uh

04:43:16.340 family emergency it's always convenient though that somehow the family emergencies always tend to

04:43:22.420 manifest

04:43:24.660 mere hours before our show

04:43:29.220 it's weird i like harassed you guys that's not me

04:43:32.580 like a year to get on like i really wanted to get on so i don't i don't get get it uh people are

04:43:39.060 just incredibly flaky so uh it is what it is but um okay so i'm gonna go back to my notes

04:43:46.580 selena you said you wanted to talk about um you had a bad date anecdote oh like my bad dating story

04:43:56.260 yeah something about um

04:44:00.100 you got dropped off on the side of the highway yeah so like i don't know it might have been like

04:44:05.860 a year and a half two years ago now but i went on a date and everything was fine you know like he

04:44:11.380 picked me up because this was before i had a license um so he picked me up we go we eat whatever

04:44:17.940 on the way back um he just randomly brought up like oh i really want to have a threesome with my ex

04:44:27.300 for whatever reason and then i was like no that's weird and then he's like okay get the

04:44:32.580 out of my car type thing um so then from there i just had to uber home like

04:44:41.460 how how long ago was this this was about a year and a half ago probably so you weren't doing

04:44:46.100 your profession at this time or you were um i had an only fans but this was before i started

04:44:52.180 camming so i didn't really have an audience on only fans yeah but you were doing only fans

04:44:56.020 yeah do you think that that set an expectation sure for in his mind sure yeah did he bring that

04:45:02.580 up as a justification to why he thought it would be okay yeah um no he didn't he didn't say oh because

04:45:11.940 you have an only fans i thought you'd be down he didn't say that was it implied sure yeah but you

04:45:18.980 know i mean it's his perspective and you know whatever but um yeah that was crazy that's definitely

04:45:26.820 the craziest experience i've had on a date he dropped you on the highway yeah damn

04:45:38.100 that's crazy at least i had i had enough money to uber home though it was interesting you did say

04:45:43.780 i we already pretty much talked about it but you said uh age gap uh dating but i think you

04:45:50.420 are fine with age gaps is my understanding yeah i'm cool with age gap dating um you said that

04:45:56.260 disagreements i've heard various things i've disagreed with uh one of which was the marriage

04:46:01.460 divorce thing what was the disagreement there well hold on one side sorry brian uh maddie can you read

04:46:08.820 it i just wanted to make sure my woods was a blank free environment andrew come on out we can hang

04:46:14.660 out and do some fishing i bet i catch more than you do okay thank you bear in the woods you're not

04:46:21.300 you're not gonna you're not gonna catch more than me but anyway go ahead what were your disagreements

04:46:26.980 with the marriage divorce thing so before i was on the podcast i only saw one video about it and it was

04:46:33.700 was on moist critical's channel and there was this guy i i even forgot what they were talking about

04:46:40.660 critical doesn't he go by another name i know exactly he goes by penguin zero yeah penguin zero

04:46:46.980 that's on youtube he's my favorite she's the pagan donated 69 dollars does picnic tops use booster

04:46:54.500 seats when dining out like she is in the studio you're you're like short right you're like 4 11 yeah

04:47:01.380 okay but no i don't do you use booster seats okay no um i i mean i know exactly what you're talking

04:47:07.780 about that was a panelist on the show uh i don't agree with his position so there's really no point for

04:47:13.060 me to like have you state right oh yeah because i don't agree with his position so i'm not prepared to

04:47:20.500 like argue on his behalf but was there something that was it it was yeah that was pretty much it that

04:47:29.700 was the only example i had seen of the podcast before coming on but you said you've heard various

04:47:34.180 things you've disagreed with um i don't know i guess i worded it badly i had seen things in that

04:47:40.500 video that i did not agree with right that was another male guest panelist who is not a host of the

04:47:47.860 show who what did he say that's not i don't want to i don't want to okay is there anything else you

04:47:56.580 said you disagree with the various things though no i that was pretty much it okay um

04:48:06.980 you're i saw in your link tree your of is called malicious kitty what why just why um well i put the

04:48:18.260 name malicious kitty for my only fans name um i just thought it was like a cute like i don't know

04:48:25.620 cunty name at the time like i mean i i was thinking about changing it to my stage name which is selena

04:48:31.620 imai and i was thinking about changing it to be more professional but i'm like i think it's like a

04:48:36.500 cute name for professional well yeah because my stage name versus like just a random username you know

04:48:42.740 but yeah okay i like it you know i'm not actually familiar with what is considered a professional or

04:48:51.940 non-professional level of of porn names to be honest with you well because like my stage name is selena

04:48:59.460 imai but like my only fans name is just a random username so like if someone wanted to find mine it

04:49:06.420 might be harder for them to find it based off the random name okay uh guys go to twitch.tv slash

04:49:13.300 whatever twitch.tv was there something we were supposed to pull up nick uh yeah there's a couple

04:49:18.580 what what was the i totally forgot uh what was the whatever stats oh the stats that would be guys we

04:49:26.340 somebody uh a a dear friend a dear friend painstakingly went through every episode and did

04:49:34.740 like stats analysis data we're gonna pull that up in a sec but first let's do twitch guys twitch.tv

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04:50:30.260 debater teaching you oh what wait so is it like videos from the both of you or uh it's it's andrew and

04:50:38.660 he has two other uh like high caliber uh speakers debaters um yeah so you're just like on the board i'm

04:50:49.060 on the board of directors okay andrew like how andrew's on the my board yeah we do have footage

04:50:54.500 of brian but there's dlc content and that's what matters yeah so um and i'm not much i'm not much

04:51:03.620 of a debater but uh in any case so we have that program available debate university.com there's a uh

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04:51:24.980 comes to this thing debate it has so many like i'm sorry i'm still tipsy from the i'm still tipsy

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04:52:38.420 wanted to make sure i put something really high quality together and that's exactly what we did

04:52:43.060 rock and roll rock and roll now guys we're gonna get into some of the stats but whatever stats 181

04:52:49.780 episodes this is taken from it'll take us just a minute or two to get through this pull it up nick

04:52:57.140 all right uh put us on the other you can go big yeah that's fine okay scroll down a little bit page

04:53:04.980 too i wonder if you yeah uh put put me in the other the other corner other corner yeah small do small

04:53:14.100 i think all right guys we've done 100 corner is there a left small corner okay whatever um 181 episodes

04:53:23.940 longest show was number 177 longest show nine hours damn rip uh like i was on that one i think you were

04:53:32.260 scroll down uh guest appearances we've had over we've had 1381 guests we've had 168 repeat appearances

04:53:44.020 uh unique guests 1045 okay that's crazy top 10 most frequent guests next all right we have uh

04:53:52.820 uh number one andrew with 36 chase with 13 q with 11 prio with nine shania nine damn she's been on nine

04:54:01.060 times mason eight kelly seven jake seven kiko seven lauren roses six okay cool age average age people say

04:54:11.300 we bring on like super young people but i mean 20 average age 25 uh okay next

04:54:18.020 uh that one's uh that one's not super interesting but relationship this is the relationship status

04:54:24.900 breakdown of everybody we got mostly single people and okay next now this is the most interesting one

04:54:35.540 because people uh is that all scrolled all the way down yeah sex worker status so uh it's about

04:54:42.740 80 percent 80 80 non-sex worker 20 sex worker we often receive this criticism that

04:54:53.620 whatever is a of ad agency and this has been levied multiple times we only they claim we only bring on

04:55:00.820 of girls it's actually looking at the stats for all the episodes it's uh it's pretty minimal you know and i

04:55:10.820 i wonder what the percentage of the female population at 25 who's on of even is that might be interested

04:55:17.140 you know i'm interested to see that well it's probably not 20 no it's not going to be that high

04:55:22.900 question to everyone who you voting for brian we all know you're voting for kamala bro stop the cap

04:55:30.980 and but i noticed you made a distinction there which was interesting

04:55:34.420 mm-hmm it actually says only three percent are sex workers and then it says 17 are only fans workers

04:55:43.940 so by women's metric how many of them are actually sex workers then wait by women's metric yeah

04:55:52.740 so this guy whoever put this together you're saying like by women's metric of girls are not sex

04:55:57.620 right oh okay um yeah it was like two percent three percent yeah three percent yeah am i wait

04:56:08.260 am i missing something well yeah so if they're accusing you of having a bunch of sex workers on

04:56:12.900 oh right so then the distinction there is well wait do you actually consider only fans sex work

04:56:18.740 a lot of the female perspective it seems like they don't

04:56:20.900 mm-hmm i think they're sex workers yeah i think that's why well yeah you included them

04:56:28.180 you said 20 sex workers so you included sex worker oh okay and only fans but i'm saying from

04:56:33.620 the position of those who are critical like feminists for instance they wouldn't consider the only fans

04:56:39.620 girls to be sex workers so it's actually right from their perspective it's only three percent i see okay

04:56:45.620 true that's true right maddie well i feel like the people who don't consider the only fans

04:56:50.660 girls who don't consider themselves sex workers are like solo content girls which is obviously still

04:56:55.620 sex work but yeah i think that's what i'm yeah but it's from the perspective of an internal critique

04:57:02.020 yeah so most of the people who are going to be critics of whatever are going to be leftist feminists

04:57:08.580 not usually a lot who aren't leftist feminists yeah there's there's some who aren't i agree there's

04:57:13.700 christian conservatives who are also pretty critical i think that they would agree that of is sex work

04:57:19.940 yeah but i'm not sure leftist feminists would true interesting very true stats guys he did ask a

04:57:27.380 question though who are you voting for starting with you um i don't honestly like i'm uneducated in

04:57:37.940 politics so i wasn't even planning to vote which i know is bad but no no it's not bad because i know no

04:57:46.580 no no but here's the thing i know that i am uneducated in politics so i don't feel like i

04:57:50.740 should vote because i'm uneducated totally agree do you promise you're not going to vote this cycle

04:57:55.620 no i i don't want to you promise she's promised she's promising if you if you promise the steakhouse

04:58:03.380 of your choice the crucible will send you to you promise yeah okay you're not voting right i promise

04:58:09.700 okay wait is this like voter is this like a crime to be like i will give you money to not vote no no

04:58:16.660 i'm down it's not it's not even a crime to give them money to vote really no you can just do it

04:58:21.860 oh through a steakhouse i was just curious yes the crucible will send you to the steakhouse of your

04:58:27.700 choice but you promise you're not voting promise your word bribery is it my word okay no it's not

04:58:33.300 it's not bribery it's not bribery she already said she wasn't gonna do it we're just incentivizing

04:58:38.580 her to continue not to just encourage who cares i don't have a pack anyway i'm a private i'm a private

04:58:43.700 citizen i can bribe people if i want to who are you voting for um i don't know um i'm uneducated too

04:58:52.500 but can i just say that i vote for somebody because they're funny steak dinner steak dinner

04:58:56.100 because they're funny is that bad do you do you like steak no okay okay what's your favorite meal

04:59:03.060 chicken nuggets if if i get you a 20 piece like mukbang 20 piece chicken nugget and the sauce of your

04:59:10.580 choice and you promise you're not voting well i've never voted oh yeah deal i'm about to take

04:59:15.860 back so deal i just don't see relevance but i mean never mind i'm gonna say it all right

04:59:23.300 who are you voting for oh um i was told this was like a dating and relationship podcast you

04:59:29.940 don't prefer not to talk about that's fine that's fine politics but it isn't politics something that

04:59:34.500 comes up in dating a lot i wouldn't know i mean i think i feel like it is

04:59:39.860 i think it does yeah yeah i think i think it does it definitely yeah you want to you want to date

04:59:49.380 somebody who has the same values yeah or even if you don't have the same values you're gonna you're

04:59:54.100 gonna discuss politics at some point but those are interesting conversations though yeah they are

04:59:58.980 it's just like fun they are and then you can with chicken nuggets bribe them not to even vote it's

05:00:03.140 perfect and um avocado lime yeah food like as bribery uh i'm always gonna pick the food to be honest look

05:00:10.580 and we're we're gonna make sure that you get that steak because you're not gonna vote

05:00:17.780 um i wanted to vote for rfk but now i just have to vote for trump who's rfk uh robert f kennedy

05:00:26.500 uh john f kennedy's son or great grandson related to john f kennedy it's okay you're voting for

05:00:36.020 yeah yeah okay cool as long as it's trump we're good sorry i'm joking so so i just want to make

05:00:44.020 sure i got this right no vote no vote no vote sure i think my dad my dad works for the county so i

05:00:55.220 can't talk about any of this stuff online please that's about who you're gonna vote for because

05:00:59.860 your dad works for the county i i just can't okay you're underestimating and then trump right

05:01:10.260 listen man the county it's serious business andrew which county because there's a lot of counties

05:01:17.460 orange county is he even a politician or does he just work for the county suffolk county it's new

05:01:22.740 york uh bro that's new york yeah oh yeah we don't even know oh i forgot it's all the united states

05:01:28.660 new york not just california

05:01:31.220 i thought they were probably for california for a second not talk about who you're going to vote

05:01:34.740 for if you're not it's against the law it's against the law what was the other thing was there

05:01:40.340 something else i'm sure it's not against the law but react to okay while he's doing that does is there

05:01:46.580 any dad bod thing yeah we could do that all right boys saw this tweet saw this tweet uh so this girl

05:01:56.180 says dad bods over six packs now there's one glaring issue that that's not a fucking dad

05:02:03.380 that's like where's the beer belly that's like you think that's average bro that's cute well you

05:02:12.340 think that got you think jason momoa is on the left yeah you think like his body i thought it was

05:02:18.020 pretty you think on the left is an average physique yes yeah because like he doesn't like have like

05:02:24.420 pecs so he's not going to the gym but he's not like his pecs are invisible he got some do you think

05:02:30.340 that men that look like that don't go to the gym because they don't have six-pack abs not at all

05:02:34.660 i'm just saying like i feel like that was that dude he got that daddy makeover yeah he clearly works

05:02:40.260 out i don't i don't know what you're talking about honestly but like compared to this guy yeah but

05:02:44.980 his body fat percentage is a little bit lower but like jason momoa is gonna have like abs well like

05:02:50.900 strength which guy do you think weighs more if you look at their biceps their biceps look this guy

05:02:56.740 weighs more i mean it's hard to do a comparison i'm not the gym person yeah he's like hella tall

05:03:02.420 yeah well he's like a bigger man he's huge i just like my man by the way i just want to point out

05:03:07.620 that the dude on the right has no body here mm-hmm wait so he shaves yeah oh did you know that guy

05:03:14.980 no but i i have been told that men should shave their arms no men what no show us your tummy

05:03:21.860 no no i i like well they're showing their tummy that's true no like he doesn't have shaved arms

05:03:27.460 that's true so hair is manly you know like for me what would you think if a if like a well like

05:03:35.780 let's say you were at an event and a bald former prisoner lost his mind and told you to show him

05:03:42.500 your tummy would you do it i would run away you wouldn't stand your ground and tell him that he was like

05:03:50.100 dumb and stuff like that the prisoner no i'm running you're running i'm running

05:03:57.940 what if he told you you should shave your arms would you shave your arms yeah i get laser hair

05:04:01.780 removal so that's irrelevant so you're not shaving your arms my my arms are are bald because i get

05:04:07.940 laser hair removal all right fair enough

05:04:09.700 okay wait bow video oh wait okay a couple things uh

05:04:21.700 any uh disagreements from anybody on the panel who's seen the show

05:04:26.100 like any other disagreements maybe you've seen andrew maybe you've seen me

05:04:29.700 something we said you disagree with any disagreements

05:04:31.940 okay then i'll just throw out let me see if any of you are going to bite on any of this so

05:04:41.060 all right hold on all right let me just throw out some toxic toxic all right uh women have

05:04:48.900 dating on easy mode what does that mean like they can get dates easier as compared to men

05:04:54.660 women it's way easier for i think they can get dates easier yes okay cool sweet we all agree women

05:05:00.900 have it on easy mode you're 100 yes definitely i think that because there's more like men begging

05:05:07.380 women to fuck than girls begging a man to fuck facts that's facts that's facts i think good answer you

05:05:14.900 think what women have better chance women women women i think i'm saying no you said i i paid attention

05:05:23.700 woman you said woman woman woman am i right i said yeah he heard woman he heard woman is it like

05:05:30.500 an l.a thing i don't know it said every woman on planet earth thing but did i say woman you

05:05:38.100 i don't know i don't think i don't think so go ahead go ahead make your way make your point

05:05:43.700 is the same sounds the same anyways go ahead um

05:05:46.180 um okay i think with women um with women um i think it's more about we have better chances with

05:06:00.340 like we have it easier when it comes to quantity but not with quality and with men it's like the other

05:06:05.140 way uh i don't i think men are more likely to find a good woman depending on the man but i think

05:06:14.180 it's in the age range too i mean

05:06:23.540 hello i want to make sure i got this right i don't understand

05:06:27.540 say say it one more time a little more concisely have better chances with quantity so they will

05:06:33.860 easily have men all over them like they want to hit you know they're they can easily find a date men

05:06:41.300 can't find a date that easily because you have to put effort more effort into pursuing a woman

05:06:46.980 but women have a harder time finding quality men even though they have a quantity of men around them

05:06:52.660 um but why do you think women end up in women women women i'm saying no you said woman i'm telling you

05:07:03.140 but what what regardless of the reason behind whether it's women's fault or men fault because

05:07:06.820 i do believe it's well we're not talking about fault there's there you made a different claim

05:07:10.580 that's what i'm saying but regardless i'm putting that aside because i feel like you were gonna like

05:07:14.820 bring that up um i still think women women have a harder time like seeing identifying who's a good

05:07:25.460 man or not which is why they end up in a lot of relationships and i think it's kind of contradicting

05:07:30.900 to argue that that's not the truth because a lot of men will well you change your claim that wasn't

05:07:36.980 your claim your claim was uh quantity versus quality yes so to be concise um yes uh there's a

05:07:45.220 lot more quantity for um you know for for what men to choose from and then it's the quality on the

05:07:53.380 women's part they can't find a good quality man it's like it's harder for them to find a quality man

05:07:58.500 because for multiple reasons like they can identify it maybe they're out there i'm not saying that it's

05:08:03.700 hard because they're don't they don't exist i'm saying like maybe they just not taught well how to

05:08:09.860 identify a good man okay so what's a quality man um i mean it's subjective but people with obviously

05:08:16.740 good well hang on hang on if it's subjective how are they not being how are they not finding them if

05:08:24.980 it's a subjective metric wouldn't that mean that their metric would be fucked up well most women want the

05:08:32.660 same thing so if i then it's not subjective i mean i'm just pointing that out because people could

05:08:37.940 disagree with my definition okay and speaking for everyone like you know because i would be speaking

05:08:42.340 for everyone um but someone who doesn't cheat someone who has morals and um doesn't cheat has morals

05:08:51.140 has morals and attractive that's obviously and they're obviously attracted to like the masculine

05:09:00.980 that's part of quality like having ambition goals and um not there's details about it too like

05:09:11.380 certain habits like there's a lot of men that are addicted to corn and i don't think like i think

05:09:18.420 that's just majority and i think that's really hard to find okay so so backing up real quick let's take

05:09:23.620 the first four they have to be attractive do you remember the other three um good morals um loyal

05:09:33.060 and um ambitious ambitious okay we'll leave it there what is a quality woman um loyal

05:09:41.780 um um um morals good morals um attractive and ambitions in different ways in different ways because

05:09:59.060 i do believe what ambitions are we looking for in women exactly okay i would say hobbies what hobbies are

05:10:04.260 men looking for in women an ambitious cooker i do believe a man and like does kind of look for a

05:10:11.140 woman that has like personality at least like you know yeah but women are looking for men with

05:10:17.540 personality right sorry men men are looking for women with personality as well yeah so women that are

05:10:25.540 at like have class i won't embarrass them basically like educated they aren't women looking for that

05:10:31.540 quality in men as well um yes okay so then what's our fourth criteria here i'm not sure i can't i'm like

05:10:41.060 so then i don't understand if there's only three criteria for women but five criteria for men

05:10:48.180 um so then it's then it seems then it seems like there would actually be more quality men than quality

05:10:56.180 women no because women require more for men which is why there's less quality oh they require more for

05:11:03.860 men and but so it's not really that there's a quality issue with men it's that women require

05:11:10.580 higher quality men than men require higher quality but our requirements is what sets that standard for

05:11:16.900 them to be quality i mean regard like i still think they aren't quality men because i mean we're the

05:11:23.700 who else are they going to date like there's like other men like the woman set that standard and

05:11:28.180 determine what is quality man like they set that standard so it's still a lack of quality okay but

05:11:33.540 is the standard higher than what men have um you could say like as i believe in equity not equality

05:11:40.980 i do believe women probably have more standards but it's balanced okay define equity and don't use a

05:11:46.740 fucking box in your example i already know you're going to use a box in the example define equity i

05:11:52.660 honestly can't give you like a oxford dictionary definition just like your own definition my own

05:11:57.620 definition it's when things are fair um in in that context i mean i could give an example like you could

05:12:08.660 say women and men are you could argue there's equality if they fight in a boxing match but it's not really

05:12:15.460 equal because women have a less advantage physically they aren't physically okay okay fair enough

05:12:22.260 like so let's back it up super quick because we only have so much time for the conversation

05:12:27.060 if the standards and quality are lower for men to women than women to men then how in the world can

05:12:34.340 you say that women have a harder time finding a quality partner if men's standards for what a quality

05:12:39.380 partner is is lower than women's towards men well because i think the standards that we set for men

05:12:43.860 are justifiable it's something that i'm not saying they're not i'm assuming they are okay so

05:12:48.820 real quick listen to the actual question i'm asking i'm going to assume that you're correct

05:12:54.340 and that women are assuming the standard for what quality of men are and vice versa but if that's true

05:13:03.220 if women desire higher quality in men than men desire in women then how is it that uh that

05:13:14.100 women are having trouble finding a quality partner i'm not understanding i think women and

05:13:22.900 i'm okay let's back it up again let's go over our standards let's start way back at the beginning yeah

05:13:30.980 what are the qualities that you think women want in men um ambitious loyal um good habits um attractive

05:13:40.980 uh morals i'm not sure if i said something else okay so now let's move over to the other side

05:13:49.780 what do you think it is that men want in women um attractiveness good morals loyalty

05:13:58.500 and good personality so the standard is lower yeah yeah so when you're saying quality you're just

05:14:07.700 actually saying that women have a higher standard than men do yeah yeah that's it right it's like

05:14:14.420 it doesn't balance i thought you believed in equity it's like i did you could yeah she said that

05:14:20.980 that women require more uh-huh but it's almost like how's that equitable it's almost like

05:14:28.900 it's inevitable it's like the only extra thing we require yeah how's it equitable

05:14:34.100 what are you asking how is it equitable that women have higher standards for men than men have for

05:14:40.020 women we have what does equitable mean well she just explained it standards okay well the original

05:14:50.260 question was can women find quality yeah but but you brought this to a subjective man no like seriously

05:14:58.740 i'm lost i'm like on the dead i just think that a woman that a woman can demand a certain

05:15:04.100 quantities from a man hang on let us finish we're almost done because we're going to bring it way back

05:15:08.580 again instantly how this argument started or how we we got on it yeah because we're talking about

05:15:16.580 the standards yeah that men have versus women have for the opposite sex you say it's subjective

05:15:22.900 so therefore women are going to set the standard for what is a high quality man right

05:15:29.460 women set the standard for what is a high quality man yeah okay so if women set the standard for what

05:15:34.100 is a high quality man and you're saying their standard is higher than what men's standard is for women

05:15:42.260 for what is high quality right um so yeah women set the standard

05:15:47.220 for what is quality and like it's like the way the way i could simplify my thought process is

05:15:54.840 like it's not my fault like sorry this sounds weird but like to sum it up it's like not my

05:15:59.300 fault if men require less like there's a reason behind like a biological reason but at the end

05:16:04.380 of the day there's still because they require less there's still an abundance of quality women

05:16:08.880 and because women require more there's a lack of quality quality in men oh okay so then so then

05:16:15.160 let us solve the issue okay men should raise their standards um

05:16:20.920 yeah actually yeah so you're so the way that we would solve that issue to make it equitable is that

05:16:30.880 men should raise their standards and then there would be less quality women right but i would like

05:16:38.220 to just for like the people sitting at home like specify what that means could i express what i

05:16:44.820 oh i can't wait to hear it okay so what do you think where do you think is the first place a man

05:16:52.020 should like raise their standards in a woman because that's where i think we would argue like

05:16:56.700 i think a lot of men will be like well i'm going to start requiring a woman to split bills 50 50 and i

05:17:01.540 think that's like where i would find an issue i think that they they should begin to try to move

05:17:09.320 towards women remaining chest i agree that's what i mean by men should raise their standards i think a

05:17:14.300 lot of men look at any woman and expect her to be good but she's like they don't look for good

05:17:19.320 qualities like educated women like good woman yeah wait well i don't educated women i think i think

05:17:25.240 that the qualities that you listed for what women are looking for men aren't good qualities either

05:17:29.800 sorry i think that the qualities on the opposite end that you're listing

05:17:34.920 for men not necessarily good qualities either well so here's the thing i didn't hear i didn't hear you

05:17:40.420 say virtue well that's because i correlate that with morals i correlate that with i tie that into

05:17:48.120 morals i could get specific and list like stoicism and stuff like yeah so so okay morals he doesn't

05:17:55.820 steal but does he hump a bunch of chicks before he meets you that's why i said loyalty okay loyalty

05:18:02.300 but if you're just saying that the way to correct this imbalance so this you're actually thinking about

05:18:08.220 this the wrong way okay so you say uh when i think of the word quality i think of better than

05:18:15.260 right cool so if i said this is a shit cup this is a quality cup which which one's better

05:18:23.220 if you were to say one is a garbage cup and one is a quality cup which one do you think is better

05:18:29.620 the quality cup right so if you say women have trouble finding a quality man but men don't have

05:18:38.180 trouble finding a quality woman you can realize where most of us would say ah it sounds like you're

05:18:44.580 saying one of these is better than the other right cdt five thousand and seventy four donated sixty nine

05:18:52.020 dollars women want men who earn more money than they do now women in the primary dating age bracket

05:18:58.740 out earn men they are illogical can you stop they want to hijack the workforce in order to disqualify

05:19:04.900 men as mates women want men who earn more money than they do

05:19:13.220 okay i want to try to bring in the rest of the panel here soon so i'm super super close i'm just

05:19:18.180 saying that if if we're looking at what is quality versus what is quantity

05:19:24.180 i think that if the standards are going to be higher for women to men than men to women that doesn't

05:19:30.420 mean that it's quality that doesn't mean that it's it's actually quality that they're looking for

05:19:37.620 right i guess you don't know i'm just kind of lost okay but i i'm trying to i'm trying to figure

05:19:46.580 out how to frame this so that you'll understand it um subjective preference real quick real quick

05:19:53.380 we have a subjective preference right women set the standard right okay if they set the standard higher

05:19:58.740 than men repeat that it's because i'm distracted right now it's no problem has it been the whole

05:20:06.740 show chad is saying the whole show she's been playing with her microphone and there's been audio

05:20:13.060 issues the whole show all right um i'm going to add it to the another thing to the pre-show notes but

05:20:20.260 it looks i mean the cable looks pretty loose to me it could be she loosened it because she was

05:20:34.580 talking with it it's just the last bit i don't think it's the whole show i'm pretty sure we're

05:20:39.780 that's been on and off and then checking on it but we're just going to swap four

05:20:46.900 well we already have multiple microphones on the table we don't we don't we don't shift yeah

05:20:54.580 pass it back so which one which mike is that that's four

05:21:09.540 okay let's bring okay all right

05:21:19.700 uh a few more minutes or yeah just we'll just quickly wrap it up okay you're just talking about

05:21:25.940 an overage standard so you're just saying one has a standard that's higher than the other but i'm not

05:21:31.220 sure that that makes it quality i mean i guess i agree yeah so i mean if that's the case then all

05:21:38.980 you're saying is that men need to raise their standards right yeah so that women have higher

05:21:45.300 standards for men than men have for women women have higher standards standards for men than men

05:21:51.140 have for women yeah yeah but because of that i to the original question i think it's harder for women

05:21:56.500 to find quality men to them because that's what they determine to be quality like through those standards

05:22:03.460 oh yeah so for men it's just you're hot that's that's usually enough of a quality right

05:22:08.100 that was my intention of answering the question is like women have more standards and there's like

05:22:12.260 reasons behind that and i mean i guess if if we could just agree that um the answer to that would

05:22:18.740 be men raising their standards then i i don't really have an issue with it yeah i don't i don't really

05:22:24.100 see a way around that right yeah so okay we can move it on brian okay um

05:22:31.060 um i did want to ask just who here considers themselves a feminist should anybody

05:22:40.260 honestly can i be i don't even know like the real definition of feminist feminist

05:22:46.660 no not the feminist feminist not okay well the definition is like equality between women and men

05:22:56.020 women but like yeah i don't identify as a feminist

05:23:04.340 okay like maybe the first one no no i was saying for her because she didn't know the definition of a

05:23:10.500 feminist but i don't identify myself because like i think there's a lot of negative stuff associated

05:23:16.820 with the label of a feminist and i don't know in today's day like a lot of people that claim to be

05:23:22.180 feminists don't actually practice the definition of feminism so to me it's like why label you how do

05:23:28.100 they not practice the definition of feminism from i mean on the internet i feel like a lot of people

05:23:33.780 that claim to be feminists usually um as women they try to be pro women only but the whole point

05:23:41.860 of feminism was supposed to be equality between women and men yeah but you know what i mean yeah so

05:23:47.860 if you thought that men were above you and you wanted equality what would you be advocating for

05:23:55.620 men or women if you thought men were above women and you're trying to equalize it then who would you

05:24:01.300 be advocating for women so to make it so then a feminist would be advocating for women right they

05:24:07.220 don't believe we're equal all right yeah that makes sense yeah so then by that standard are you a feminist

05:24:14.180 um sure like i believe in equality like equal rights you know yeah and to advocate on behalf of

05:24:21.380 women because you don't feel like they're equal to men um sure okay

05:24:31.300 feminist um

05:24:33.940 honestly needed to tell you no no no i just i need you just to think about it for a sec but

05:24:43.460 honestly if it's with between equality i don't think that men and women are equal wise

05:24:51.060 should they be though no no which way shouldn't they be equal in just in everything i feel like

05:24:58.180 they both have different things like you know women has certain you know women has the

05:25:01.220 characteristics of being a mother while meanwhile a man has the characteristics of being what about

05:25:05.220 rights should they have equal rights yeah i definitely do believe that well so what do you

05:25:10.980 think what do you think that's different though you're trying to contradict what would you think

05:25:14.260 that women's advocacy would be for that men can have children or equal rights no i'm just saying

05:25:20.820 that they're not equal in that way because i'm a woman a woman could be a mother that's her that's

05:25:25.700 hers so she's not equal to a man in that way asking for men to have children or no i'm just

05:25:30.740 saying so i think they're not equal yeah i okay i understand they're not equal in action

05:25:36.900 men can't have children we agree on that right yeah yeah but do you think that feminists are

05:25:41.860 advocating that they do no they're advocating that they have equal rights right okay when it goes to

05:25:47.700 equal rights then yes okay so then you want to have all the same rights that men have right

05:25:56.020 i feel like that's already what it is sure but that's what you want right yeah okay and if there

05:26:02.020 was any imbalance to that you'd want it corrected right so that men and women stayed with their whole

05:26:07.860 equal rights thing right no i feel like if a woman thinks that and feels that she could do what a man can

05:26:14.500 do then she should do it that would still be equal rights that's why yeah so yeah so then yeah you're

05:26:20.660 a feminist no yeah okay yeah how could you not be there's nothing wrong with that just as long as

05:26:29.620 you're not like i mean there's something well yeah there's something well i mean there's some people

05:26:34.660 that are like angry and like just very it's just i'm just i'm just chill about it like by this

05:26:39.700 definition technically but like i like i wouldn't call myself a feminist yeah i don't label myself

05:26:45.300 technically like okay yeah i mean you don't want the baggage that comes with the fact that you have

05:26:49.380 an incoherent world view i understand that but like uh for instance if you really believe in equality

05:26:55.060 how come none of you demand to be drafted that's what i was gonna say i was gonna say the reason i'm

05:26:59.860 not a feminist is because i don't want to go to war well there's like some so then do you want to vote

05:27:04.580 no i already said i don't no no i want the right to have a decision to vote oh how come you think

05:27:10.580 you should have the right to have a decision to vote for men or for politicians who can send men to

05:27:15.140 war when you don't have to go to war um how is that the same as going to war well you see

05:27:28.500 men can be drafted and you cannot right well because in politics and with like you know the values of

05:27:34.260 like the you know republican liberals all that there's different values and people are going

05:27:39.300 to vote for their values it's not all about war yeah i totally agree people are going to vote for

05:27:43.380 their values it's just weird that men if you can vote for a politician who can send men to war

05:27:48.340 but they can't send you to war how's that fair it's not fair that's why i don't identify as a feminist

05:27:53.860 yeah i get it so why should women vote because voting doesn't all have to do with war there's many

05:28:02.740 factors of why i would vote there's laws that affect women yeah so let's get into this

05:28:12.500 like but like also couldn't you just who who who takes the american population of war

05:28:18.020 you men do men yeah like you're saying the people that get sent to war right i'm sorry females can't

05:28:24.980 be politicians no no i i thought who sends them to war um whoever's in office i guess and again i'm

05:28:32.420 not politically educated yeah yeah but who is that it's men and women right that vote for a certain

05:28:37.220 politician yeah yes yeah but who has to fight the war the men yeah but women fight they can volunteer

05:28:44.900 to fight that's why so they can't be compelled but also if we go back to the traditional values so the

05:28:51.060 government can't of the dominant man no regardless of whether they were drafted or not they're still

05:28:55.060 in the war the government can't come to you and say guess what princess you're gonna strap on a

05:29:00.180 helmet and go to the front lines we're gonna use you to walk through this minefield so that we can

05:29:05.780 make sure that there's no mines in this field but also does that sound like a great job i don't

05:29:11.860 agree with that job because i think it's like no no unhuman you know like i feel like it's like

05:29:17.540 that's nice you don't agree with i don't agree with war that's great it goes anywhere and it's

05:29:21.540 just unnecessary it's nice that you don't agree with war but now let's assume that there's other

05:29:26.180 countries that don't share your value which there are who attack your country that you live in whether

05:29:32.180 you agree with war or not you're in a war right right who's gonna fight it the men because that's

05:29:37.620 and why do you get to send men to war i'm not sending them to war are you voting for politicians

05:29:43.060 i haven't voted yet yeah but can women vote for politicians absolutely but men also vote for

05:29:49.700 people that go to office that send men to war yeah so it's like the same thing yes but they should be

05:29:55.140 able to because they're the ones who get sent to war but also if we talk about other rights with women

05:30:01.300 like abortion not to get into that but it's like that is a woman's right so it's like women's rights are

05:30:07.380 only secured by how powerful the military is which secure their rights that's it but what i'm saying is

05:30:12.580 in the context of voting if there are laws that they you know want the right to an abortion maybe

05:30:18.580 they vote this way versus the other so it's kind of the same thing with the war it's not the same

05:30:22.820 so let's back up um level of severity but it is kind of all of women's rights are secured by men

05:30:30.900 soldiers specifically here's my example to demonstrate this for you if you have no army of

05:30:37.620 men to protect you at night if the chinese said you don't have any rights and just came into the

05:30:42.660 united states they could just take it over right could women do about that i mean if they're in the

05:30:50.820 war let's say all the men in the united states disappeared tomorrow they were just gone and the

05:30:56.500 chinese sent all of their men over here to go to come and take over the united states because women

05:31:00.820 do anything about that yeah of course what could they do they i don't know i mean it depends what

05:31:07.700 they do like again if it's are they gonna fight the red chinese army women no but i'm saying in the

05:31:14.660 context of the war like they could still like you know try like yeah what are they gonna do what are

05:31:21.380 you gonna throw big cookies at it like what do you think women are gonna do if all the men in the

05:31:26.420 united states there are such things as strong women i think that can fight how many strong women do you

05:31:31.060 think are going to repel the red chinese well i'm not saying that yeah so what i'm saying is is that

05:31:37.060 absent the men in society if another society's men wanted to take your society over and take all of your

05:31:43.620 rights could women actually do anything to prevent that well i don't know i mean i guess they're not in

05:31:50.980 the war so they're not there's no one to fight for us basically you're saying how would you feel if

05:31:56.500 you didn't eat breakfast this morning if i didn't eat breakfast um i i didn't eat breakfast yeah i thought

05:32:04.020 you didn't all right i had a coffee yeah but what was like the wraparound point that you were making

05:32:14.420 if you take so so you wake up tomorrow all the men in the whole country are gone they disappear they

05:32:29.300 don't exist they they're out of existence another country sees it and sends all of their men over

05:32:37.300 to take this country over can you tell me what women could do about that i mean whatever they want

05:32:44.260 i mean if they have a gun they can shoot or something right if they feel threatened or fight

05:32:48.500 or attempt to fight back right but it's like it at that point there's no traditional war because

05:32:54.980 there's no men to fight the war right so do you think that women would lose quickly

05:32:59.540 probably because they're not trained to be in a war and if those men wanted to take all of those

05:33:03.060 women's rights away could they probably so we need men to fight in the war right right so if that's

05:33:08.580 the case i'm not denying so then if that's the case i'm not denying that's the case

05:33:12.660 that shouldn't men be able to determine the fate of who sends them to war but that doesn't mean that

05:33:18.980 only men should have a right to vote well okay but because again the voting isn't all about okay

05:33:25.300 well then how about this women can never vote for a politician ever who has any authority over sending

05:33:33.300 people to war which would be all of congress is that a good compromise

05:33:40.420 so you're saying that women wouldn't be able to vote at all nope i'm saying that they could never

05:33:45.460 vote for the president or congress or the senate that's it well that's mostly what people vote for

05:33:54.260 i mean there's other things we voted for like no you can vote for property you can vote for property

05:33:58.260 taxes and right right but it's like you know i mean that's a big part of it because like the

05:34:04.340 president and like congress they run the country and who sends everybody to war the politics the

05:34:10.740 president and congress right congress makes an act of war president's the commander in chief they send

05:34:17.460 everybody to war right right yeah so how is it fair that they can send us to war but not you

05:34:25.220 they can send women to war if they want they can't why because they're not compelled to be drafted

05:34:32.260 only men are right but it's like i'm not saying that like one day a politician isn't gonna make

05:34:37.940 well how about this as a compromise then what if women had to be drafted would that be fair

05:34:44.420 it would be scary it would be scary though yeah you don't want to be drafted then why do you want

05:34:49.460 to vote i never said i wanted to vote so do you think women should have the right to vote

05:34:53.220 um i think it's hard no no girl don't women should be able to vote it's a hard question

05:35:04.580 because i don't get it like you're only focusing on the war that's a pretty major aspect right but

05:35:11.700 what about everything else w raniere bricks when we're getting a morgan bow video make her wear a

05:35:16.900 baseball uniform um what when we get a morgan a what a bow video uh excuse me

05:35:27.860 uh make make her wear a baseball uniform why they want you to bow morgan

05:35:33.620 you down to hit a bow right now sure fuck it right now like stand up stand up into this camera

05:35:41.540 hit a bow i don't know what's a bow you got this like a bow you got it morgan like in like a video

05:35:46.660 bow bow bow i'm just kidding like a like in a video like scoot over to your this way a little bit

05:35:52.980 yeah a little more okay yeah okay hit it like this the hands go like your hands like yeah the hands

05:36:05.700 go there okay go it that was pretty bad no offense morgan it was it was the first time that i'm proud

05:36:12.340 of you good good job she did good she did good for first first go by the way tts is uh we've dropped

05:36:19.540 it to 30 guys uh 29.99 technically but 30 will do it what's up nick the bow video i guess we could do it

05:36:31.220 all right guys here's the bow andrew needs a sig he needs to take a little smoke break

05:36:36.980 all right boom huge this is i think this is kind of like what i'm looking for in a girl

05:36:43.300 like the bow you know what does that mean though it's like a sign of respect it's respect it's a sign

05:36:48.820 she's bowing to a man yeah yeah she's bound to a man is he a king is he a king bro look at this

05:36:54.580 penthouse you know how much fucking it's probably is this is that korea honestly if a man got me like

05:36:59.780 that then i'll bow to him right right because he's providing that nice apartment he's providing

05:37:05.300 yeah boom the bow one more time let's see it boom boom huge bow look at that right because he's

05:37:13.140 providing great things that she needs that's a provider i love that i love providers fantastic

05:37:18.420 depth though oh like the quality morgan did like a begrudging like like that you know that little

05:37:24.980 like string guy outside like the car yeah yeah oh yeah maddie you can move for just while our good

05:37:32.740 friend andrew wilson's out there smoking all right boys chat we're gonna ask the chat um

05:37:38.340 um oh i know what's everybody's body count damn i should have asked that

05:37:45.140 fucking sooner before everybody that should have been the first question god damn

05:37:51.460 oh wait who who was zero oh her but what about joe lee i don't know i don't know she was giving me

05:37:57.860 innocent or not innocent well because her thing was about the virgin thing so i'd assume she was a

05:38:02.180 virgin but it would be interesting if she wasn't i was curious that that girl who was sitting there

05:38:07.700 she probably wouldn't say no she probably she wasn't all right so uh starting with selena what is uh

05:38:13.620 body count body count um i don't know my body count but i don't count the porn bodies you have to count

05:38:21.060 the porn bodies selena estimate estimate the porn bodies the porn bodies um do women also count oh yeah

05:38:29.780 uh how about tell us your woman count and your dude count okay in porn women count i think is

05:38:35.540 four and then man count and then man count um i mean i've worked with a lot of the same people but

05:38:44.420 i'll just say 10 i've worked with a lot of the same people but what's the have you done like group

05:38:50.340 scenes um i've only done threesome scenes threesomes like two dudes um i've done one with two guys but

05:38:57.540 most of the time it's me and another girl and one guy yeah okay and i've done so you've done like

05:39:02.660 10 10 scenes no i've done like a lot probably 100 you'll do like repeat yeah like there's a lot of

05:39:09.380 people that i've worked with previously so who's the favorite who's your favorite oh my god who's your

05:39:14.260 favorite dude that you've worked with favorite i can't believe i'm asking favorite dude um isaiah

05:39:20.180 maxwell no fucking idea who that is but he's so sweet that name he's so sweet he's a sweetheart yeah like

05:39:26.900 he's a very nice man cool um so that's your so you said 10 from probably more

05:39:36.500 bro selena come on bro well but it's okay how are you gonna do this perspective selena how are you

05:39:41.860 gonna do me put it in this perspective right if i'm doing porn first since january and it's been

05:39:47.220 seven months like am i really gonna remember over seven months yeah bro joshua stacy donated 30

05:39:53.140 dollars andrew i love you forever for teaching how government works i recently ran for state senate

05:40:00.260 and got 28 of the vote with two percent of the budget i lost a battle with an old lady l for josh

05:40:07.060 i feel so bad kill of cereal are you still in the stream for the question he asked he asked a

05:40:14.100 question at the beginning of the stream and i said we would do it after oh my what was the kill of

05:40:18.660 cereal are you still in the stream i'm sorry bro i'll ask i'll ask this panel and i'm gonna nick can

05:40:24.100 you make a note for me i'm gonna re-ask it next stream it was most embarrassing like dating dating

05:40:30.500 story oh yeah okay kill of cereal i don't know if you're still here i'll ask it tonight and i'll ask

05:40:34.340 it complimentary again uh on tuesday my bad bro my bad kill of cereal i apologize wait so it's like

05:40:41.220 a hundred what well like i've probably done i've probably done like a hundred it's over nine thousand

05:40:48.500 how many well like the scenes i've done what no i'm saying this i've probably done like a hundred scenes

05:40:55.780 in seven months or something somewhere close to that yeah right so like it's just hard but with

05:41:00.900 like 20 20 dudes like 30 dudes probably like 40 dudes like 50 dudes not 50 but like maybe like 60

05:41:08.900 60 dudes not 60 but like 70 well if it was different every time but it i've worked with a lot of the same

05:41:16.660 people so can you um and then tell us the body count like outside cities tell us the civilian body

05:41:24.180 count civilian yeah tell us the civvies boys so uh i don't know if i remember because how many like

05:41:33.140 chicks just hear me out are you like do you talk when you like fuck chicks or what um i don't really

05:41:38.980 have sex with girls i thought you've done scene with chicks yeah but like oh the threesome stuff

05:41:44.740 or whatever yeah like and again i'm submissive so like i always do the submissive role okay but like

05:41:50.740 outside of porn like i don't really remember because like i didn't have sex like with like

05:41:56.500 outside of porn for like it's been over a year like i've only had sex within porn for the last year

05:42:02.820 like wait did you lose your virginity like porn no okay no i was i was not a virgin when i did

05:42:10.500 but i haven't slept with anyone since like last june i think and then the first time i had sex again

05:42:18.980 was in december which was my first porn scene so i haven't had sex outside of the industry so

05:42:24.180 i don't really remember my body count outside of that if that's fair i don't know you don't remember

05:42:30.420 the like civilian body i mean let's just keep it at like an even 10 you know just like an even 20

05:42:40.900 and even 10 like an even 30 or something that's cool no it's it's all good yeah it's all i mean i

05:42:50.340 i don't know what about you what my body count yeah five

05:42:56.660 multiply it by three that's the real number it's five it's five hers is actually five it could have

05:43:02.660 been one last night but what the oh the guy who you're six he's cute that's my husband that's my man

05:43:08.020 okay good times good times good times good times um maddie

05:43:18.740 if you know you know

05:43:22.340 morgan one cool cool guys tts 29.99 get them in get them in roast section there's clearly a lot of

05:43:34.660 people here here to roast yeah there's so many people and oh man i feel like we maybe should

05:43:41.940 have kept of them andrew's chugging that crazy girl yeah well but she said she wanted to leave

05:43:47.940 though well like this she like i think that was just like a cry for attention even though she had

05:43:53.700 all the attention and then since we were like shut up be quiet in the corner she's like i'll just leave

05:43:58.420 but i really want you guys to beg me to stay yeah probably yeah like get the

05:44:04.420 fuck out my patience was tested it's weird though i think her mom had to pick her up

05:44:13.780 oh yeah she said in the beginning of the show so we're we're down to two yeah this is it this is the

05:44:19.300 fucking panel bro this is what i deal with this is it boys look at this we was the only loyal one

05:44:26.020 yo w selena wcc only the d gens made it only the d gens well the thing with her right the crazy chick

05:44:35.780 is that grim-eyed reaper donated thirty dollars body count matters stats say that 30 of dna paternity

05:44:44.740 tests are negative and the chance women cheat in marriage are 16x higher if body count greater than

05:44:50.660 20 guys paying support for or raising other guys kids yo thank you for the uh tts grim-eyed reaper

05:44:58.340 good to see you back in the chat by the way guys up er aquatic donated 35 dollars does pineapple belong

05:45:05.540 on pizza this is serious you will be judged by this answer yes that's no because that's

05:45:12.180 fucking disgusting did you say yes yeah get out get out get out get the fuck out of here

05:45:19.460 get out of here

05:45:27.140 you put pineapple in your tacos too

05:45:29.940 okay but that would be good i have jack-in-a-box tacos in my purse what do you mean it would be

05:45:34.100 it's even worse damn you just ruined your purse bro it's fine no no no have you ever had like

05:45:39.620 some mozart spaghetti donated 33 dollars pineapple in a taco hold on hold on hold on try to stay

05:45:48.340 healthy and hydrated so you don't die from stress like kevin samuels stop smoking cigs andrew stop

05:45:55.300 eating burgers brian i gotta lose some weight boys pinkerton seven donated 30 dollars women didn't

05:46:01.780 turn the right to vote majority of them vote democrat who are war happy always ruin the

05:46:06.660 economy pro delusion also want to give women the right to kill their unborn children for any reason

05:46:13.140 all right democrats are lunatics vote trump vote trump word um funny yeah yeah he's funny by the way

05:46:22.580 oh that's below the threshold but i'll just read it darth andrew two out of three is not bad bring them to

05:46:30.900 the dark side bring them to the dark side

05:46:39.700 what i did where is it wait minimum amount to read oh okay um guys all our recent live streams

05:46:47.460 i haven't mentioned this all our recent live streams have been getting demonetized almost every single

05:46:52.580 one uh so i really appreciate your patronage now it's much needed like every single live stream

05:47:01.140 yellow icon age or age restrictions are not as common but it happens occasionally but almost

05:47:07.460 every single one like yellow check icon basically means it's demonetized it's not gonna so i appreciate

05:47:13.220 all your patronage guys thank you guys so much uh what were we talking about body count yes talking about

05:47:20.500 selena's body count pizza i remember what i was gonna ask selena so i mean i i always like to extend a call

05:47:29.700 to action by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to write here right now good song

05:47:41.700 would you consider stopping sex work entirely and making a commitment on the whatever podcast to stop

05:47:49.220 stop for for like what stop it get some help stop it stop it selena selena

05:48:01.380 for what oh oh so you want me to say stop it no i want you to make a commitment on the show

05:48:07.460 that you will stop being a mattress actress no that you will stop no that's my source of income

05:48:15.620 what if we found you a job for four thousand bucks a month no because i i could make more in sex work

05:48:22.100 than four you can make more than 4k at a job true but you said for 4k a month yeah sure but

05:48:29.140 let's assume because you said in your average months about less than 10k honestly okay no job

05:48:36.180 would make me quit but like again if i had a man that wanted me to quit and i loved him and he was

05:48:42.500 going to be a provider then i would quit how come no job like i how come no job would make you quit

05:48:47.940 because i have a man providing for me yeah but you can provide my dream you do realize that almost

05:48:53.620 every woman on planet earth who provides for themselves does not do it through sex work

05:48:58.180 right so you could easily provide for yourself absent sex work exactly so why sex work specifically

05:49:04.740 you already said it's not any easier than another job right no it's not well it's very competitive

05:49:12.340 then i don't understand why do sex work specifically um i don't know i mean i could have done something

05:49:20.180 else but that's what i chose to do and that's what i yeah but you can also choose to not do it

05:49:25.300 so like you can imagine if i had a job as a garbage hauler and i decided to not be a garbage hauler that

05:49:31.540 i could get a job that wasn't hauling garbage right well but i'm not a garbage hauler yeah but that's not

05:49:38.580 the point the point is is that if i was i could just change my profession right just like i can change

05:49:44.500 my profession right but there must be some underlying motivation and if it's not that

05:49:49.540 this is easier than a different motivation then what the hell is it i mean i'm already here i i like

05:49:54.740 what i do you know then that sounds like it's easier with that no no but what i'm saying is like for me

05:50:00.340 if if i were to quit my job now like i would want like a husband that's going to provide for me so i

05:50:06.500 never have to work again why would a husband be required for you to have a different career

05:50:09.620 no no well because that's my decision i know it's your decision but why would it be a requirement

05:50:17.220 because i don't want to have to work ever again like you know what i mean like if i were to quit my

05:50:22.580 job now like then i would want to have like the guaranteed just like i don't know i just always

05:50:31.700 wanted a man to take care of me but you can still get that that's this is so bizarre to me because

05:50:37.300 the career that you're in is going to lessen the chances of that and then you can have a career

05:50:43.620 i can find a man to provide for me and all that yeah yeah is he going to be in your industry no

05:50:52.660 no i mean he might be i don't know but um i don't know just like i kind of i kind of like what i do

05:50:58.900 you know and like it's not because it's easy money no it's it's definitely not easy money

05:51:05.220 so then your only motivation is that you just like to get fucked on camera yeah i think it's fun

05:51:12.420 that's really yeah so would you do it without money no that's really weird so wait a second

05:51:21.300 if you weren't getting paid for it you wouldn't do it right but it's the only job but it's the

05:51:27.460 only job you're willing to do thirty dollars unfortunately i missed the loud annoying woman

05:51:33.140 but as someone who makes more money than all of the girls combined do something different air

05:51:39.140 traffic control will hire you off the streets at 200k it's a stressful job is that what yeah but

05:51:45.540 she has a stressful job that is true that's true the pussy's getting stressed out well no she says

05:51:52.500 it's stressful for the pussy 100 no having it's is it stressful for the pussy sometimes yeah does

05:51:57.860 the pussy get stressed out yes sorry malicious kitty yeah the kitty's not so malicious

05:52:05.380 the pagan donated thirty dollars andrew any popcorn crumbs in the container that you can put on brian's

05:52:11.940 who do you trigger his ocd are they don't do it andrew do it do it do it do it do it do it oh

05:52:20.900 oh boy wow oh hold on andrew immediately wait i got a little piece of popcorn

05:52:34.900 oh it's all over right i want you to have it's so bad dude it's all over andrew next time we have you on

05:52:41.860 this super serious debate it's you're going to be debating abortion and i'm just going to like

05:52:45.860 slowly come up and just

05:52:52.340 or some crazy shit like that wait you got like a hair wicked wally donated thirty dollars

05:52:57.620 have you considered applying for a job as a train conductor it sounds like you've been railed so

05:53:03.220 much you're overqualified there's a hole on your face

05:53:06.820 get your train

05:53:08.660 oh if that's what you call it thank you wicked wally for the tts thank you pagan for

05:53:15.780 or not thank you pagan i guess um wait better help train

05:53:21.700 what were we talking about something else okay but also okay but like what and you're petite too

05:53:26.660 bro i'm just looking out for i'm looking out for the pussy

05:53:28.580 right totally totally i'm looking out for the pussy i'm just saying no but you're 4-11 right you're 4-11

05:53:41.140 i'm just saying you say it's a stressful job yeah i'm just looking at

05:53:46.180 psycho donated 30 dollars girl in red and white top you seem nice-ish so i wish you the best and hope

05:53:53.060 that one day when you are 60 and have a cat you realize that it might not have been the best

05:53:58.180 choice when wanting a man damn psycho that's crazy damn that's crazy i'm tearing up wait i got some

05:54:05.940 good news for you i just want to know though i gotta ask but also like so you stretch you wake up

05:54:12.100 tomorrow right after not having breakfast again and you stretch right i had coffee yeah so you stretch

05:54:20.580 your arms right you're like i'm not going to do only fans anymore walk me through what life then

05:54:27.940 looks like i don't have a job yeah well like yeah i know i know so you get a job

05:54:34.500 so like why would i do a career change though the emperor of the united states tomorrow's like

05:54:40.580 sex work is illegal of all kinds so it's done i've thought about that yeah so you wake up in the

05:54:45.860 morning it's totally illegal you can no longer do it psycho donated 30 dollars the truth is crazy

05:54:53.220 brian also you are a freak for fostering the blm movement weirdo i will not stand for the for for

05:55:02.580 your disrespect of bia big labia matter okay too many women 10 000 labiaplasties a year son that's one

05:55:13.860 too many if i can do what i can do to prevent one girl from getting her chopped up i'm gonna do it

05:55:22.420 because i'm a gentleman and a feminist it's a lady and an all-around great guy it's your vagina

05:55:27.940 it's a part of your vagina anyways um anyway what was happening okay so you wake up tomorrow

05:55:33.460 you stretch porn's illegal what do you do um i go find a man to provide for me

05:55:40.980 do you think you would be able to yeah well then why don't you quit doing porn and go do that

05:55:49.780 um but i i do i do do that i'm i'm pursuing men all the time oh it's both and but like i still like

05:55:56.420 my job you know and you know that i think that's but the ultimate goal is you want a man to provide

05:56:01.620 for you yeah and you think do you think i've wanted that my whole life you think that your chances of

05:56:06.180 that are going to be lessened by you doing corn well that was only earlier when we were talking

05:56:13.700 about the traditional values or whatever yeah so the man so right but if a man was going to provide

05:56:19.700 for me and he didn't meet all the criteria like i'm not that picky you're not that picky

05:56:25.620 joshua stacy donated 30 dollars my pen 15 thinks someone could be at a stage in life where being

05:56:34.180 her lifetime fuck toy would be a sweet gig she just can't find christ after that

05:56:41.860 i don't get it well you're saying that there's a lot of women woman in your position a lot of woman in

05:56:50.980 your position who um well they'll ride the cock carousel as they say and then engage in sex work

05:57:00.020 and then later about 27 28 seems to be the age where all that work gone because well the wall is

05:57:09.380 undefeated and so once they hit it they realize they're not going to get as many gigs they tend

05:57:14.500 to move over to any type of bastion where they won't get shamed christianity seems to be one of

05:57:21.380 those bastions where they think they can hide out without being shamed that's what he's saying oh

05:57:28.100 okay yeah i mean my parents raised me as a christian i don't identify as a christian but i was raised that

05:57:34.580 way oh sorry you should no i meant you meant come back oh come back to come back to christianity

05:57:41.940 i don't know but i don't know i i wouldn't do it to cover it up god are you so i believe there is a

05:57:48.100 god yes you believe there's a devil yes well then let me ask you a question if the devil or god were

05:57:55.540 speaking to you as for what you should do when it comes to corn do you think that god would endorse

05:58:00.500 your decision to do corn or the devil well god accepts everybody what about the devil what would

05:58:07.060 he want you to do but that's assuming that the devil exists which you just said he does right but

05:58:14.500 that's assuming that he holds a certain opinion but like what opinion do you think the devil holds

05:58:19.860 is the question lol paladins donated 30 dollars in the world the problem is that you could survive on 60k a

05:58:26.100 year but you won't be attracted to any man who makes less than what you make via exploiting your

05:58:31.620 looks it's ruining your chance of finding a good man yeah so what do you think the devil would want

05:58:37.700 you to do but like technically we don't know what the devil thinks because we never talked to him

05:58:44.260 well you do believe there's a devil you said yeah well for me like i'm pretty sure based off of

05:58:49.780 christian christianity if there's god then there has to be an existence of the devil okay so if i

05:58:55.700 believe in god then i have to believe in the devil that's based off of christianity so then you believe

05:58:59.380 in the devil yes what do you think he would want you to do versus god when it came to corn

05:59:10.180 i mean i don't know i feel like it's more of a world view because i'm asking you your world

05:59:15.700 viewers okay when the devil so let me ask you this does god want you to do corn

05:59:21.780 i don't know i'm gonna have to ask him okay what do you think

05:59:31.460 i don't know i mean you don't know for me like hey then does the devil want you to do corn i don't

05:59:37.620 know you don't know it's all based off the assumption that the devil holds it holds a certain

05:59:42.340 view and then god holds a certain view but we don't know get the devil or god does this sound right

05:59:46.980 right the god wants you to do corn and the devil wants you to not do it i didn't say that at all

05:59:56.820 i know i'm just saying i know i know you didn't say it listen again to what i'm asking if i were to

06:00:03.060 say this out loud god wants you to do corn the devil wants you to stop doing corn does that sound

06:00:10.900 correct to you the world view of that is a no yeah because the world doesn't view it that way

06:00:16.980 but we're not god or the devil let's reverse it let's reverse it now god wants you to stop doing

06:00:22.100 corn and the devil wants you to continue does that sound correct or incorrect based off the world view

06:00:27.700 it sounds correct okay but again we're not god or the devil and we don't have a right to judge people

06:00:32.980 on that scale so it's irrelevant because we don't know where does where does god put people after he judges

06:00:38.580 um he puts them in hell but based off of christianity oh people that accept god into

06:00:48.180 their heart are you know accepted into the kingdom of god what about uh what i understand about

06:00:54.020 christianity so as far as my sex work he wouldn't judge me for doing sex work what does god judge anybody

06:01:00.740 for um then why the hell do they end up honestly dude religion is confusing why do people end up in

06:01:08.500 hell if god doesn't judge them no i'm saying he does judge them based on but what does he judge them for

06:01:14.820 doing i don't know you don't know because i don't understand full christianity then why do you believe in

06:01:20.900 god i believe in the existence of a god and an existence of a devil yes because with you know in the world

06:01:30.020 all paladins donated thirty dollars you don't have to judge other people judge your own actions be

06:01:36.820 better thanks all paladins appreciate it continue go ahead um i was saying because we were talking

06:01:43.700 about christianity in christianity if you say there is an existence of god then you have to say that

06:01:50.180 there's an existence of the devil okay forget in christianity yeah yeah okay i understand what you're

06:01:54.420 saying let's forget all of that let us assume assume christianity is not true big sass energy

06:02:01.860 donated thirty dollars this girl is so full of shit she knows for sure she's doing the devil's work

06:02:09.140 let's assume for a second christianity doesn't exist it's we've proven it's totally false do you still

06:02:15.060 believe in a god yes okay do you still believe in a devil yes because i because okay okay hang on

06:02:21.780 hang on now we've removed christianity from the table what is this god that you now believe in

06:02:29.380 who's not the christian god think about you doing only fans i have no idea but it's like why do you

06:02:36.260 believe in it no but hold on let me finish okay so what i was gonna say is i feel like as far as

06:02:42.500 occupation there are true evil people in the world that do evil things i don't have evil intentions in my

06:02:50.420 heart so it's like if you judge me for doing sex work fine that's up to you i don't care you know

06:02:56.980 it's what i do do you judge but it's like i feel like it's more about you judge a thief

06:03:02.420 it depends what they stole right you know they stole a snickers bar right is that wrong that's not

06:03:08.180 like evil intention like they're not robbing someone's house i feel like that has a more evil

06:03:13.540 intention than taking a candy bar is stealing a snickers bar wrong being a thief is wrong but there

06:03:20.420 are scales that's not what i asked you is stealing a snickers bar wrong yes yes to be a thief yeah is

06:03:28.660 having sex outside of marriage wrong no is being a prostitute wrong which you consider to be only

06:03:36.420 fans and anything in between a person who gets paid to have sex you do this yeah

06:03:43.220 you get paid to have sex i get paid to create entertainment and that entertainment is you doing

06:03:50.660 what is sexual p p in the v just so you're having sex p in the v correct okay so you get paid to have

06:03:58.740 sex correct how in the world could you ever envision any definition where getting paid to have sex on

06:04:07.380 camera is not prostitution because it's for the purposes of entertainment it's just like a movie

06:04:12.980 so is prostitution what if you know but it's like if you think about porn it's a fake concept with fake

06:04:18.420 characters right with real sex entertainment we're selling entertainment with real sex let me get this

06:04:24.740 right let me get this right a prostitute isn't a prostitute as long as there's a camera there

06:04:31.460 no but porn is made to be sold entertainment so it's a prostitute's vagina what do you think but

06:04:38.660 that's not they're buying it for the entertainment value it's entertaining to have sex right so what

06:04:44.660 do you mean but i'm saying on a scale being a private prostitute like on the street and getting money to

06:04:52.980 have sex is not the same as making entertainment to be on the internet when you're playing a role

06:04:59.860 which is just like a movie just think about are you both so so let's say that i went like i play

06:05:04.420 characters in sex so i just want to make sure i got this clear okay fair enough i just want to make

06:05:08.340 sure i got this clear so i'm driving down the street and i see two women wearing practically nothing

06:05:14.980 off to my right and one of them has a sign who says hey i'll suck your dick for 20 bucks

06:05:20.420 i can assume she's a prostitute right i walk over to her and i say hey i really want you to do that

06:05:28.100 for 20 bucks on camera so that i can then sell it to people for entertainment she's not when she goes

06:05:36.100 and no that's hang on hang on and then sucks it for 20 bucks as long as she's on camera and i sell it

06:05:42.180 for entertainment she's not a prostitute then no but i'm saying that it's like you're still creating

06:05:49.700 like pornographic material uh-huh which for me so what makes her as far as what i do i don't

06:05:55.220 understand what makes her a prostitute then in that case well you were saying that the definition

06:06:00.900 of a prostitute is anyone that sells anything sexual so by definition the word prostitute right

06:06:07.940 i don't really i'm not offended by the word yeah but there are definitely different levels of sex

06:06:16.100 work uh-huh i don't personally do any escorting or anything so forget my definition let's try this

06:06:21.780 again forget my definition forget i ever gave you any definition woman holding a sign i will s the d for

06:06:30.340 20 bucks is that a prostitute that is prostitution okay great so then you pull up in your truck and you

06:06:37.140 say get in we're going up to that hotel room and you're going to do it while my friend films and

06:06:41.700 then i'm going to sell that film is she engaging in prostitution street prostitution is she engaging

06:06:49.940 in prostitution when you pick her up take her up to the room your friend yes that is the definition

06:06:54.820 that we have created yes she's a prostitute so then how are you not because i don't know maybe it's

06:07:01.300 just the way i view it i'm not denying like you know the definitions of words but for me like

06:07:06.100 i always viewed porn as being a movie but sex because i'm playing like when i go to set i get

06:07:12.580 a script and i'm you know the babysitter or i'm this you know it's like a role in a movie but it's

06:07:18.420 just or like guest on the podcast i mean so so let me let me break it let me break down even so like

06:07:25.620 again for me like as far as porn when there's like a whole crew and all this professional camera equipment

06:07:31.060 like i feel like i'm on a movie set but the movie the point of the movie is to be sexual content

06:07:36.980 right have you ever seen acting in which a sex scene is done but nobody's actually having sex

06:07:45.620 like you mean in movies

06:07:47.300 yes right so you can have movie scenes where you're having sex but there's no actual sex

06:08:00.740 meaning you're in a movie it appears to the audience that you're having sex

06:08:05.300 like you mean just in a normal movie like on netflix it appears like you're having

06:08:08.580 sex but you're not actually having sex right right that is fake you're not getting paid to have

06:08:13.460 fake sex are you you're getting paid to act in that role just like i'm getting paid to act in a

06:08:18.660 porno role act but except it entails are you acting like a penis is entering your vagina or is that

06:08:25.460 not acting um because in a movie that's acting i never said that the sex was fake i mean there are

06:08:32.180 aspects that are fake right in a movie no penis enters an actual vagina no actual penis enters a

06:08:38.260 vagina they just act like it in your movies does an actual penis enter an actual vagina right that's

06:08:46.100 what makes it how's that acting then because i'm playing like a fake character and you know if they're

06:08:52.340 telling you doing the real thing of sex right so the sex is real the character's fake well if you

06:08:58.980 want that no no but if you're but if you define prostitution no i'm saying if you define like okay

06:09:05.860 the dick entering the vagina yes but are all the reactions real no it's fucking for entertainment you

06:09:11.380 know okay do you think that do you think that all of the reactions of a prostitute are going to be

06:09:18.180 real when you hire her of course not so she's playing a role just like you right right so then

06:09:25.060 she's not a prostitute or you are a prostitute sure i'll take it i mean i mean you already said

06:09:32.340 the definition of a prostitute was any explicit material off your definition and like i don't

06:09:38.100 again i don't be offended by words like that i'm going off of your definition i said forget mine and

06:09:43.380 i asked you if a woman's holding a sign says twenty dollars i'll do x you call that a prostitute

06:09:48.500 well again if you look at sex work there are different divisions of sex work right

06:09:56.180 i mean so per your definition a prostitute is also my definition what is a prostitute by your

06:10:02.260 definition by my definition even if i wasn't in porn my definition of a prostitute my idea my brain

06:10:11.060 immediately goes to like street walking hopping in the back of cars that's what my brain goes to

06:10:16.340 or like you know can women but like i mean that's fine can you be walking down this so so let's see

06:10:25.060 if this is correct if madison here was walking down the street and a guy pulled up and said hop in the

06:10:33.460 back and she hopped in the back and no sex occurred and then he cruised her to a location she got out

06:10:39.460 is madison a prostitute she's a slut and she knows it would madison be a prostitute if she hopped in

06:10:47.860 the back of a guy's car and had not everyone that hires prostitutes hire them for money yeah i know

06:10:53.540 answer my question sure but like she wasn't a prostitute because she wasn't being like labeling

06:10:59.620 herself as like a sex worker on the street okay let's assume that madison is a virgin labels herself

06:11:08.180 a sex worker but has no sex at all with anybody ever is that a sex worker i mean i don't know i'm

06:11:18.020 just like i'm kind of i kind of lost the plot a little bit let's try again i don't know man that

06:11:22.580 sounds like a lot of work let's pretend that madison says i'm a sex worker who has no sex with

06:11:29.300 anybody at any time is she a sex worker

06:11:36.420 so just identifying like as for no reason no no so then her identifying has nothing to do with

06:11:43.540 the sex work her jumping in the back of a car has nothing to do with the sex correct what has to do

06:11:49.220 with the sex work specifically if you had to think of one thing one quality about sex work that would

06:11:56.340 make it sex work what would that one quality be crazy dancing sorry sorry what would it be

06:12:05.940 i mean for me like i mean it's sex work right so the one quality no no but if a man i feel like it

06:12:15.380 it's more emotional because if a man oh i mean you know it's more emotional because if a man

06:12:23.060 gets sexual gratification from just having a conversation with a woman you know and she's

06:12:28.020 getting paid for that that would be considered sex work i see right so so i just want to make

06:12:33.460 sure i get this right so let us assume for a second that your job is to pick up the phone and have

06:12:41.540 a con a conversation with a guy on the other end yeah there are sex sure sure yeah sex phone callers

06:12:50.180 right uh are they engaging in any sort of sex work by your estimation technically yes okay so sex work

06:13:00.020 because that's how they get their sexual gratification which involves sex something sexual got it got it so

06:13:06.260 then if you move down to the next line okay if they engage on the street with a sign that says

06:13:13.860 come plow me for 20 bucks they're engaged in sex work correct okay so then if they're on camera and

06:13:19.940 they're getting plowed for money that's sex work right correct if they're on only fans and they're

06:13:25.940 stripping that's sex work right correct okay great great got it if we were to formulate a word that would

06:13:34.420 encompass all of this let's say that we assume that that word was um prostitute and what prostitute

06:13:42.100 meant was that you sold sexual favors for money would all of those women fall under that category yes

06:13:50.740 do you think that that's how the category is usually referred to no no but again like my initial

06:13:59.780 like i was telling you earlier when i think of the word prostitute even again even before porn my brain

06:14:08.900 immediately went to like street walking like selling sex because like i don't know if i just grew up and

06:14:15.300 that's the word that they used to say that but it was always in that context sure so so walking down

06:14:20.900 the sidewalk based off of your definition sidewalk you blow a guy that's that's a prostitute but if

06:14:26.660 that same woman was 50 floors up with three cameras on her that's not a prostitute based off of my

06:14:33.700 initial um thoughts yeah i mean if the actual definition of a prostitute is someone that involves

06:14:41.140 anything sexual then sure no sells sexual favors for money right sure i didn't know the proper definition

06:14:48.020 of a prostitute well that's that's that's my dad i'm purely just going off of yours but like no but

06:14:54.020 you did say that earlier that the definition that is mine that's yours that's not a fact if you were

06:14:59.540 going to only your opinion yeah so that's not valid to the conversation so because i thought your

06:15:07.300 opinion that the distinction between a prostitute and a non-prostitute is camera because that's not

06:15:13.060 that's valid i thought that the actual dictionary definition was what you were telling me so based

06:15:18.740 off of that if that was a fact then yes that would be in the same category but you don't have a problem

06:15:24.500 being called a prostitute anyway no because fine call me whatever you want you know i'm used to

06:15:29.540 people getting but i just want to make sure do you yourself think you're a prostitute i'm a sex worker

06:15:37.220 no no that's not my question do i think i'm a prostitute do you think no no but it's like if

06:15:46.340 it was based off of your definition i'm just talking about you yourself i never viewed myself as a

06:15:52.580 prostitute no but i just want to confirm this you one you do not consider yourself a prostitute right

06:16:00.100 uh no but two you can confirm that men do pay you to have penetrative sex on camera for the purposes

06:16:09.460 of sexually gratifying other people p in the v correct is there any and that in that

06:16:15.540 to you just to be crystal clear crystal is not prostitution in my own definition no okay well we

06:16:24.580 can move on from there uh guys we put the tts on pause temporarily to allow the conversation to

06:16:32.900 play out i'm gonna allow quite a few uh we're gonna let all the tts's come through pinkerton

06:16:38.580 seven donated thirty dollars ephesians 6 11 put on the whole armor of god that you may be able to

06:16:44.420 stand against the wiles of the devil christ is king christ is lord christ is god should we do different

06:16:50.820 voices rude just for the money or fun donated thirty dollars you guys are judging the book on its

06:16:57.860 cover selena is actually a really engaging camp model she literally squirts for fun without being

06:17:02.340 donated she does it for the fun not just for the money uh okay i i don't know the context

06:17:14.340 dress underscored pussy donated thirty dollars i am an atheist but i think i have a better grasp

06:17:19.700 of religious doctrine than so-called christians girl you're fucked according to the christian

06:17:24.420 doctrine you're going to hell that's not true though based off of christianity though justin martens

06:17:30.020 donated thirty dollars maybe selena should hear maddie's harrowing near miss would have been how

06:17:34.820 andrew brought her back to the light hashtag doing the lord's work no only fans for you right no awesome

06:17:42.820 silence donated thirty dollars mrs wilson is having a hard time she just punched her head

06:17:49.620 three times and has said her butt hurts three times she says you are not telling the truth

06:17:55.940 uh i'm going to pause the tts temporarily here so you guys might find this interesting because you

06:18:00.580 guys got into it with that chick who's sitting there so i received a dm i don't know if there's

06:18:06.180 any validity to this it could be whatever the dm said let me actually just pull it up because i don't

06:18:11.220 want to misquote it in regards to that girl again don't know the validity here he says i found three

06:18:19.540 videos of this jesse chick where she is having carnal knowledge with different men in each video

06:18:25.540 her face and tattoos are there with pictures yeah when and she claimed there's no videos of her oh

06:18:32.020 so she was she was uh kind of digging on you because you do porn and she was saying i don't do that

06:18:38.020 but this guy dm me saying there's like videos with three step i don't know if it was three

06:18:42.580 videos or three separate men she's a hypocrite three videos with three videos having carnal

06:18:50.180 knowledge with different men in each video so three different men that's why she was so offended

06:18:54.980 because she knew that she was a hypocrite but she's rich but she's rich so it doesn't matter yeah

06:18:59.780 she was definitely a troll she's definitely like she knows what she's doing to her it doesn't matter

06:19:04.340 because she's so rich or well honestly what what like the issue was it actually it was kind of

06:19:10.260 entertaining and funny but then when she started like getting a little too aggro and like sticking

06:19:15.540 her finger in people's faces yeah and then like but like calling what did she say like she called

06:19:20.260 this girl uglier she called her uh that's like taking it too far rip her earrings out of her yeah

06:19:25.620 it's taking it too far she took it too far fix her eyeliner first like no her eyeliner if she's

06:19:31.140 gonna troll she can make it entertaining without like what is your obsession with this chick's

06:19:34.900 eyeliner well because okay so like her eyeliner like the black was like i mean i'm only dissing

06:19:44.340 her because she's the hawk twat you don't know the hawk twat you don't know what the hawk twat

06:19:49.460 put it put it put it put it i'm not gonna play you're like i'm not i'm not playing it you

06:19:53.300 mean you mean hawk twat hawk twat hawk twat yeah dude that meme was so unfunny the hawk

06:20:00.580 not not hawk-ta hawk-ta yeah it's not like a cherokee word it's not the hawk-ta

06:20:05.940 mad eras donated 19 dollars and 99 cents revised questions rate yourself one to 10

06:20:15.300 megan fox at peak is 10 also in the forest average man not random random can be crazy

06:20:21.300 lady from before i'll take the bear brian reminding you to ask okay rate yourself one to 10 megan fox

06:20:29.220 peak is 10 uh like i said earlier a three compared to megan fox what about you zero okay

06:20:37.060 morgan six and a half okay morgan all right maddie like four or five okay what are we compared to

06:20:45.140 megan fox andrew you don't know you have to compare it to like like some hot guy that one guy

06:20:50.980 that's on i feel like i'm still five who doesn't change my answer who's the guy

06:20:56.340 who's like the hottest guy in the world brad pitt no that one guy from what's the past and the

06:21:02.980 furious paul walker paul walker compared to paul walker wow frankie would really not appreciate

06:21:09.060 the way you fucking okay did that maddie it's not rude okay i'm a seven for sure oh wait paulo

06:21:16.820 paladins donated 30 you aren't fake you are a real person stop compartmentalizing it just because

06:21:23.860 the camera is on doesn't mean you stop being a human pull up andrew's photo pull up andrew's

06:21:27.780 photo all right bro come on

06:21:35.620 andrew did you say you were like a man hoe when you were younger did you say that

06:21:40.180 maybe for the purpose of an argument i'm not going to confirm or do oh okay okay um

06:21:44.740 okay yeah cool um thank you i don't know cut steel with that jaw can you read this maddie a

06:21:57.380 solo in-person prostitute sells sex one at a time a porn video start prostitutes themselves in mass

06:22:06.820 one ways worse val dave donated 20 i can't tell if it's your eye shadow or skin tone that's makes

06:22:14.420 your eyes pop so well morgan andrew fave voucher i meant cal

06:22:19.540 it's just her eye color um thanks low paladins donated 20

06:22:26.820 madison pretends to be happy on camera regularly it is probably less fun working for brian than

06:22:31.700 pretending to be a babysitter in a corn movie babysitter in a corn movie

06:22:38.980 whatever billiam mars donated twenty dollars flee from sexual immorality every other sin a

06:22:44.980 person commits is outside the body but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body first

06:22:50.180 corinthians 6 18 thank you god rejects all forms of sin thank you thank you low paladins donated

06:22:57.140 twenty dollars twenty dollars a person in particular a woman who engages in sexual

06:23:02.980 activity for payment that is what you are doing dictionary.com

06:23:10.900 silence donated twenty dollars facts andrew wilson master debater master debater a man's man a man's

06:23:17.220 name destiny a female stripper's name listen to the master debater master debater

06:23:22.180 that was pretty good you do realize many 13 to 16 watch your videos right make sure to wave to them

06:23:32.980 in future scenes smiley face uh huh what i mean that's a good point i'm not going to elaborate

06:23:43.140 it's a good how do you feel about that selena i ain't even gonna address why don't you just apologize

06:23:48.340 right now why they have access to that in the first place literally like parent your kids better

06:23:52.660 maybe i'm not the mom like okay low paladins donated thirty dollars andrew doesn't understand the

06:24:02.420 younger generation hawk two or twa is the same issue as woman versus women versus women younger

06:24:07.940 generations are pronouncing words based on the spelling they see gif versus jif

06:24:12.340 woman versus women i didn't say woman though i said women oh a little paladin beat me last time he

06:24:22.660 hasn't beat me this time yet though guys if you want get your last minute uh messages in we're

06:24:28.900 gonna wrap up the show here pretty soon just to uh kill of cereal i'm very sorry that totally slipped

06:24:33.940 my mind uh so most embarrassing dating story i think that's what it was i do let me just double check

06:24:40.660 really quick um didn't you say that the most embarrassing one you had was the highway yeah

06:24:45.380 oh you already told it yeah she told it already and then you told it yeah she told her to the guy

06:24:49.860 with the prostitute yeah yeah who was smashing the prostitute oh and then when i was in the hospital

06:24:55.380 he also rented a hotel room for like a week and said he was at work but whatever and had tinder plus

06:25:02.660 bro he looks like sid the sloth from ice age

06:25:05.300 most people most embarrassing moment you've experienced on a date okay that's the question

06:25:12.260 uh morgan most embarrassing experience i don't really think i have an embarrassing moment

06:25:19.060 i don't i don't know morgan's just perfect i don't really go i don't really call him that many dates

06:25:25.220 maddie i don't think i've dated that much either

06:25:28.740 okay whatever andrew pretty normal andrew this is your baby with your black ex-wife and you're just

06:25:38.260 gonna disregard it child abuse what most embarrassing dating i'm not getting into it

06:25:49.300 oh plead the fifth i've got a couple i've probably got a lot i've probably had so many i've forgotten about

06:25:55.860 some uh let's see uh one time a girl started like me out like was meowing ed georgens donated 20

06:26:06.660 if you want selena to stop just reminder her that because of her job she'll be wearing diapers in her

06:26:11.300 40s she vibed

06:26:24.660 uh yeah i was on this date with this girl she started uh like she wanted to be a cat

06:26:32.740 i was like i can try i can try but i don't know

06:26:35.460 and then like it wasn't your kink or whatever yeah look i'm i'm open-minded but she started like

06:26:42.020 trying to like she acted like a cat and was like licking her paws and shit

06:26:47.140 i don't know it was kind of it was like first time too i was kind of like this is this is a lot

06:26:52.580 too freaky that was pretty huh i would have gotten the egg

06:26:56.260 it was a chick though so whatever they get a pass i guess low paladins donated 20

06:27:04.500 according to a cross that i saw on the whatever podcast your opinion only matters if you have the

06:27:09.140 most money therefore i win andrew can't argue with that logic that's fair that's true most money wins

06:27:17.220 argument fair yeah that's how that works that's how that works yeah i won't talk to you

06:27:20.900 according to her a million a million she's like you don't have a million in the bank i'm like

06:27:26.260 chill johnny since donated twenty dollars selena what's the going rate for a babysitter

06:27:38.420 23 an hour 23 an hour 23 an hour

06:27:44.740 that's actually i've done real babysitting that's not have you have you shot with yeah but what's the

06:27:49.140 going rate for a babysitter oh

06:27:58.100 is it like a thousand bucks a day

06:28:02.980 how many kids

06:28:06.980 what

06:28:10.020 the kids referencing right like okay so let's frame it a different way right

06:28:13.300 how much per day to have a pizza delivered to your house you can't pay for

06:28:20.420 no i'm not playing this game i plead the fifth okay

06:28:31.140 wait she does prostitution

06:28:32.500 billiam theme must donated twenty dollars for you may be sure of this that everyone who is

06:28:40.900 sexually immoral or impure or who is covetous that is an idolater has no inheritance in the kingdom of

06:28:46.740 christ and god ephesians five five

06:28:50.420 selena i think you should make a commitment on the whatever podcast

06:28:54.420 you're gonna quit doing porn and only fans i do not accept on the street corner i do not accept

06:29:03.540 you're young enough now if you walk away from it now time release underscore one donated twenty dollars

06:29:10.340 which intervention saved trump from the projectile if god saved trump then did god also sacrifice

06:29:15.620 firefighter corey confer tour i'd assume that manifestation would be more in the devil's wheelhouse

06:29:22.580 okay is that a hypothetical or go ahead andrew you had something yeah i was saying um

06:29:30.580 if you quit now you got a good chance you actually do have a good chance it'll get buried and people

06:29:35.460 won't care and that at 25 the man that you get together with who has all those traits that you want

06:29:41.140 right won't care it was 19 it was a phase i was really young and i was stupid but every year that

06:29:49.700 goes can i just say that at 22 you could right every year that goes by the results get worse and worse and

06:29:57.060 worse i'm not even saying it's good now but it's still going to be better now right so like think of it

06:30:03.140 this way um if your kid said your son says my mom shot 10 porn scenes that's pretty bad but if he says

06:30:13.780 my mom shot 10 000 porn scenes it's a lot worse right i mean not really because no wouldn't the whole

06:30:23.060 context be 10 to 10 000 is to one no no but wasn't the whole context that like the job in the first place

06:30:29.220 so like i'm already in deep so i already have a less chance and like if my kid finds it like blah

06:30:34.340 blah blah so like it's the same thing like oh i see you know what i mean so it's like your feet get

06:30:39.060 caught on fire don't put it out might as well let the whole body go up might as well no but like

06:30:45.940 based off of like you know what you were saying like isn't it just as bad like who cares how many

06:30:51.860 scenes it is bad but i'm telling you the distinction between i was 19 to 19 and did this to i was 19 and

06:31:00.820 30 and did this is night and fucking day night and day i don't know i i don't feel shame for my job

06:31:08.100 honestly yet selena i have a very good relationship with the assistant manager and chick-fil-a in santa

06:31:20.260 barbara i will get you a job no i've already worked in fast food actually in and out ain't that bad

06:31:27.060 i've worked at hey don't don't don't start with me is corn is corn easier than working at in and out

06:31:33.060 burgers that's a tough job in and out that's a hard job i'm not gonna lie is corn easier than that or

06:31:39.620 harder i mean i don't know it depends the person i guess you do you think it would be easier to work

06:31:45.860 in and out or based off of me okay i used to work at a fast food restaurant which one honestly i feel

06:31:52.100 like working at the fast food restaurant was probably easier really yeah interesting but like

06:31:59.540 i also had a lot of friends what job have you had that's harder honestly dude the hardest job was she

06:32:05.300 did roofing one summer i've had a lot of jobs what was the hardest what was the hardest job

06:32:10.740 was working at walmart before porn um i was like a like a shopper you know like with those little

06:32:18.020 baskets like the personal shoppers and like they were so picky like just like the department of like

06:32:23.700 the requirements like it was very like that was definitely more stressful than my job now in my

06:32:29.940 opinion in my experience you poor thing i'm sorry that you had to work as a shopper at walmart

06:32:35.380 yes was it air conditioned yeah air conditioned it was nice very cold in the freezer section it's

06:32:41.140 terrible terrible the check was donated twenty dollars yeah thank you you do realize that to

06:32:47.620 parent your kids better means not to allow them to do it in the first place i'm a legal adult i'm a

06:32:54.020 legal adult yeah i didn't ask you though what does your dad think about what you do low paladins donated

06:33:00.660 twenty dollars easy money is an addiction don't be lazy yes you have to work harder at other jobs for

06:33:07.540 the same money it's worth it what does your dad think about your job um he and my mom support me

06:33:16.660 because they love me you know i'm their kid you know they love me yeah hang on let's untangle two

06:33:22.900 concepts here i'm not disputing that your parents love you because you're their kid

06:33:28.340 mm-hmm i'm asking what they think about your job in corn mm-hmm well at first my parents were like

06:33:38.020 girl what the fuck like obviously you know very not with it um and then i don't know i feel like now

06:33:45.780 especially my dad like he does accept it only because like as long as i am safe you know and i am

06:33:53.380 you know he just like wants me to be happy so if doing porn makes me happy like he'll support me

06:33:59.620 you know like a dad should like you should support now let me ask you a different question just real

06:34:04.100 quick i've always wondered this i've always wanted to ask somebody this uh do you have a problem with

06:34:11.460 people who have fetishes and so they watch corn for the purpose of fulfilling that fetish do i have a

06:34:18.500 problem with people with fetishes um and that's why they're watching corn because they want to fulfill

06:34:24.100 the fetish i don't have a problem with people with fetishes just as long as those fetishes aren't like

06:34:29.780 i don't know i don't know i i'm not going to get into like what fetishes i like and don't like sure but

06:34:35.460 it's like i don't disagree with fetishes because everybody has their own like niche so you walk in

06:34:40.580 one day and your mom and dad are watching a corn and it's of you what what would your reaction to

06:34:48.660 that be um that's disgusting really i thought you didn't have any problem with fetishes but you didn't

06:34:58.020 say for me to narrow down the fetishes you only said do you have a problem with fetishes why would

06:35:02.740 that one bother you but if they were watching somebody else's daughter well but you were your

06:35:09.380 example is in the context of incest and i don't believe in incest so you think that people who

06:35:14.500 watch incest porn that fetish is no good i mean to each their own it's not my business to determine

06:35:21.940 well then if it doesn't bother you why would it bother you if your parents were watching it because

06:35:26.340 it's not my fetish right so you do agree that people are going to be watching your corn for the

06:35:33.940 purposes of some type of sexual of course that's why you know most of the concepts are like so what

06:35:41.220 would your actual objection be to your dad if your dad was watching you for the purpose of sexually

06:35:49.940 gratifying himself my objection i mean it's disgusting it's incest i don't i don't know

06:35:58.180 yeah i mean it gives you the ick right but i mean you could be taking it up the rear

06:36:04.500 and uh in a porn and i'm sure that that would give your dad the ick right or your friends the ick so

06:36:10.500 the ick isn't a very great argument right so i get that it would give you the ick would he actually be

06:36:15.540 doing anything wrong though like he just walked in he was just going at it he was just really hammering

06:36:22.100 himself while he's watching your cornography what would what would actually be your objection

06:36:29.540 to this i mean it would just disgust me that's it i don't believe in like incest then and and would

06:36:37.380 you tell him that he should stop w selena would you tell him that he should stop watching your corn

06:36:42.580 yeah because it makes me uncomfortable so then when your dad came to you and told you to stop doing

06:36:49.860 it because it made him uncomfortable how come you didn't heed him but he's not involved in in it

06:36:56.020 you're making a concept where you're not involved in him doing that no no but your image you're

06:37:02.020 merging the concepts where it's like my porn and him are in the same concept in this in this case they

06:37:08.020 are my work doesn't affect him and him fapping to your work doesn't affect you

06:37:13.620 it does it how it affects my emotional and it affects his emotional

06:37:21.940 i mean i never denied that like i mean i never denied that you know he you know wants me like

06:37:28.820 it's the best thing he wants for his kid but at the end of the day i just think it's really weird

06:37:32.660 that you think it would be gross for him to fap to you right but at the same time when he comes in

06:37:37.540 and says i think it's really gross that other men fap to you that you just dismiss that

06:37:41.860 but that's completely fair though because i mean like you're bringing up a concept

06:37:46.900 in the context of incest which i don't believe in and none of my family members believe in that

06:37:53.300 to my knowledge so it's just not realistic in the context of what would it him but like if the challenge

06:38:01.620 it was the context of him because i feel like most people think that like if

06:38:07.300 like let's say i'm a parent and my kid does sex work i'm not gonna like cut off my kid because

06:38:14.900 they do sex work like i love my child like i'm their parent i'm always gonna love them yeah i mean

06:38:20.100 how much love does your kid have for you if they're gonna shame your name by doing sex work

06:38:24.580 doesn't sound very loving i don't use my name i have a stage name yeah you have a name

06:38:29.140 i have a name but i use a stage you do share your parents so i'm not shaming you do share your

06:38:34.420 parents last name

06:38:37.620 yes yeah so but my stage name doesn't bring to their name do you think that because you're a

06:38:42.980 robber and you wear a face mask nobody can identify you that it doesn't shame you or your parents that

06:38:50.180 you're robbing because nobody can tell who you are doesn't that seem a little odd to you

06:38:58.740 it's like haha you can't you don't know who i am therefore there's no shame in the context of a

06:39:03.700 crime which is being a thief which is no it's not crime i'm talking about shame it's still shameful

06:39:08.900 crime or not right so the thing is the thing is it's like how much can you love your parents

06:39:14.500 how much can you love your parents if you shame them i mean you could throw out

06:39:24.660 you could throw out the context like let's say i didn't do porn right and my parents were

06:39:33.220 very religious you know whatever religion and i didn't believe in their religion wouldn't that bring

06:39:38.660 just as much shame to their family no because it's not agreeing with their values right it doesn't

06:39:43.860 agree with their values but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be shameful

06:39:48.180 there could be all sorts of no but if you are highly which don't agree with the value so for

06:39:52.340 instance what you're talking about here it is shameful in that context how because from i don't know like

06:40:00.020 again i'm not like the religion expert but from people that have come from highly religious families

06:40:05.700 that don't agree with that religion their family will turn their backs on them and you know shame

06:40:11.380 them for not agreeing with their religion so it's still shaming the family in that context it's

06:40:15.860 the same maybe but do you think that they would prefer that you didn't know their religion or you

06:40:20.100 took random strangers d's in your ass it's all up to your own personal morals yeah which do you

06:40:25.940 think most people what do you think most people who are fathers and have little girls would prefer

06:40:32.100 that they go dad i'm having a crisis of religion or dad i'm gonna have random strangers f me up the a

06:40:37.780 which do you think they'd prefer uh not porn obviously yeah exactly so i never i never

06:40:44.020 disagree with that i was just saying like in the context of some element of shame here they're not

06:40:48.580 going to be equal in category uh i mean whatever again i feel like it's all about morality and like

06:40:56.020 the individual family's morals in my opinion okay i'm gonna let the ttss come through then we got to wrap

06:41:01.860 the show uh pinkerton seven donated twenty dollars 100k i am from jersey 100k let's go 100k you ugly i

06:41:11.540 had a c-section i am from jersey 100k b for life 100k i had a c-section let's go b for life i am going

06:41:18.100 to see you okay that was cool president joe biden donated 20 million hello my beautiful handsome son

06:41:40.820 andrew i miss you very much and i miss sniffing you and taking showers with you when are you and

06:41:47.060 richland my smoking hot looking grandchildren going to visit me what's a christian donated

06:41:55.540 that spring shame back and show people the truth spiritual wealth is more important than material

06:42:02.260 wealth matthew 6.19 i recommend these verses for a good read thank you

06:42:10.500 lol paladins donated twenty dollars call to action for brian will you commit today on this

06:42:16.020 podcast to stop being lazy stop snacking between meals start fasting and get back into shape not

06:42:21.940 because it is because it is right you're right you're right i'm i'm working on it boys donated 20

06:42:28.820 i have to bring context incest is degusting but she has seen she calling the male actor daddy

06:42:34.020 sorry step daddy so also second girl has a tono will she commit to close it and stop no she doesn't

06:42:43.460 have an only fan donated 20 don't listen to him honey i'm a big fan of your work it's the best stuff

06:42:50.340 out there selena you're the best in the biz believe me thank you

06:43:01.300 the stoic roman donated twenty dollars selena would you have sex if almost 80 000 people were

06:43:06.980 watching you live in the flavian amphitheater and if the emperor gave you a thumbs down you would die

06:43:11.060 what the hell is that what emperor low paladins donated twenty dollars choosing to eat meat during

06:43:20.260 lent is not the same thing as eating sausage on camera right but it was in the context of bringing

06:43:25.380 shame to the family i don't think that you're gonna bring shame to the family bring shame to the family

06:43:30.420 right ulysses the pagan donated twenty dollars the value of virginity andrew was right my wife's and

06:43:37.940 i's 32nd anniversary is in two week we both went in as virgins the only woman i've been with quality

06:43:45.220 over quantity total love and faithfulness typer donated twenty dollars some guy math for you

06:43:53.220 thoughts if you have 10 bodies and the average dick size is six inches then you've had five feet of

06:43:58.660 dick run through you 50 bodies now imagine how many pumps gross wasn't that a joke from that one

06:44:07.540 youtuber like 10 years ago i forgot his name and he did like the calculation i don't know i think

06:44:12.660 there's a silicon valley episode where they did something like that but they're trying to determine

06:44:20.660 like the maximum never okay all right guys i've seen that before though uh go guys like the video

06:44:27.540 like the video please on youtube also go to twitch.tv slash whatever

06:44:32.180 drop us to follow on the prime sub if you have one guys it has been two hours

06:44:38.820 since we last had a prime selena's dad donated twenty dollars selena we're from polish descent

06:44:47.060 you eat all the sausage you want it brings no shame to our family we're so proud

06:44:51.460 okay are you sure you're not polish no are you are you positive yes uh back to twitch really quick

06:45:01.380 guys twitch.tv slash whatever drops follow drops prime sub uh wizards thank you for the prime man

06:45:06.100 appreciate it i think he fixed it i think he he got it unbugged thank you guys can we get guys before

06:45:11.220 we wrap the stream can we get to um 81 000 followers ppc in the chat 81 that's 60 like 60

06:45:21.300 followers can we get 80 81 000 followers guys thank you appreciate you guys uh thank you all for

06:45:27.220 watching over there on twitch we also need to really quick just before we head out here uh guys we

06:45:33.380 launched me and andrew launched a program debate university.com the link for that is in the

06:45:39.460 description the course is verbal combat 80 plus videos six hours of andrew teaching you step by step

06:45:51.060 how to be a master debater you will go from amateur debater to master debater cream 3.14 donated 19

06:46:02.660 dollars and 99 cents destiny loves to eat me um

06:46:11.620 damn that's it okay cool what does that mean oh because that yeah because of that thing

06:46:18.020 yeah anyways um okay xander thank you we need morals to run the show okay thank you bro uh i think

06:46:27.540 that's pretty much it what am i ready for what oh raid okay yeah we'll do a twitch raid

06:46:34.820 uh we're gonna raid we are gonna raid s fan tv let me just double check though make sure there's nobody

06:46:42.500 else then we're gonna wrap so if you want get your last minute uh tts's and thank you guys so much for

06:46:48.100 all the patronage tonight really appreciate it uh you guys are legends like i said almost all our

06:46:53.540 videos are getting uh demonetized like the little yellow thing so uh we are viewer supported so really

06:47:00.020 appreciate it guys thank you just want to make sure yeah okay we're gonna do s fan tv he's playing street

06:47:06.340 fighter 6 guys when you go over there tell him whatever raid's coming and tell him uh he should

06:47:13.700 come on the show we'd like him on the show he's a world of warcraft paladin legend okay uh check was

06:47:21.460 donated 20 of girls has no morals it's all about me me me me me me me me oh and don't shame me because

06:47:28.340 it's my life not my family's you can shame me i don't care you can shame me me me me me me me me me

06:47:33.860 me me me it's beautiful beautiful can you can you harmonize me me me me you ready on three one

06:47:41.780 two three me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me it's good um so oh noted that

06:47:51.940 donated twenty dollars what do you think is weirder a father subscribing to his daughters of or a

06:47:57.060 god is subscribing to her father's both weird it's gotta be way weirder for the daughter to be

06:48:05.860 yeah that's that's like big fetish right there that's crazy that's why how is that fucking weirder

06:48:10.740 they're both they're both like they're both like the creepiest shit ever dude they're both terrible

06:48:15.540 but i feel like it's way weirder yeah low palate is donated twenty dollars don't shame her i bet she is

06:48:22.180 into that yeah don't yeah don't yeah all right let me pause it just temporarily so i can uh get

06:48:30.420 those right out uh but if you want you can still get your uh tts's in so uh gg well played to the

06:48:36.980 panel those of you who the two of you who fucking made it to the goddamn end yeah oh gee not a lot

06:48:43.220 made it to the finish line can we get some w's in the chat for selena and cece for making it to the

06:48:49.380 end of the show i don't think this is uh this is rare uh w so we want wolina will i want to see

06:48:56.580 wolina in the chat and i want to see um just wcc i guess okay um so gg well played last call hit the

06:49:04.420 like button please on your way out thank you guys for tuning in tonight you could be anywhere in the

06:49:08.500 world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who's super chats donates and

06:49:13.140 supports the show your patronage means the world like i said you know a lot of these recent streams are

06:49:18.980 just a lot of them even past ones just demonetized so i appreciate your patronage we will be live

06:49:24.980 again tuesday at 5 p.m pacific maybe we might even do something i don't think we're no i don't think

06:49:31.300 we're doing i think i've seen selena shoot a football dating talk we'll be back 5 p.m pacific

06:49:37.220 any girls who want to be on the show dm whatever on instagram if you can make it to san barbara

06:49:40.260 oh sevens in the chat thank you guys for watching on twitch give me just a moment to uh get this raid out

06:49:46.340 hold on uh nick can you pull up s fans tell him to guys i love street fighter tell him he needs to

06:49:56.740 come on the whatever podcast okay all right thank you guys for watching on twitch i'm going to send the

06:50:02.820 raid right now

06:50:13.620 like what is it's it's throwing me off so much man

06:50:18.180 dude okay i have photoshop open no wonder

06:50:29.140 i have photoshop open i didn't give you any lag supplies i'm like what is going on this on the

06:50:33.380 other side

06:50:35.940 yo thank you for the raid what's up guys i was doing a little bit of straight it's late for me too i was

06:50:41.460 doing a little bit of street fighter to end the night yo what's up guys

06:50:47.860 do the podcast

06:50:50.740 frick dude why how many of these things i'm open

06:50:56.260 whatever is i remember talking about whatever like uh

06:51:00.660 the 2019 or something um about uh yeah it was like classic wow stuff this is the first time we're

06:51:08.180 talking about we're talking about all kinds of classic wow stuff because uh i think whatever grew

06:51:16.500 up playing wow okay all right that's that's all right guys and then let me just allow okay no tts's

06:51:25.460 i think we're good oh nick there's some supers i think this one yeah josh didn't pop up uh josh

06:51:36.260 josh are you sure or wait when did this come through

06:51:44.180 uh i'll check for you really quick josh okay let me see what's going on here

06:51:50.660 you're gonna have to nick can you keep an eye in the in the youtube chat just ask for his name

06:51:55.620 like his what his paypal or what his email or what his username was for how he donated

06:52:00.500 oh my god why is it taking so long pull up uh

06:52:13.380 i don't know when you sent it man if you want send me an email after the show we'll get it we'll get

06:52:18.420 it sorted um okay guys thank you so much again for tuning into the show it was an interesting one

06:52:23.700 a little hectic there just a little complications with guests and stuff and stuff but uh thank you

06:52:28.420 guys for watching oh seven's in the chat i hope you guys have a uh good night thanks for the two

06:52:33.700 champagne pops that was awesome yeah thank you uh gerald i don't know if you're still in the uh

06:52:38.100 chat but that was a very generous of you and uh thank you man appreciate it also the the uh

06:52:43.860 mic mutes too that was helpful i mean it didn't stop her but he tried to meet her twice i mean it did get

06:52:49.700 her to leave so that was kind of nice i guess she was going fucking gonzo that chick that was crazy

06:52:54.660 okay well thanks again for watching guys i goes i sorry stroked out hope you guys have a good night

06:53:01.860 uh wait sorry hold on just okay just wanted to make sure there are no tta okay guys hope you guys

06:53:06.180 have a really good night we'll see you on tuesday good night guys enjoy house of the dragon if you

06:53:09.940 haven't watched it yet

Whatever Podcast - July 29, 2024

Cat Fight RAGE QUIT! BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! Andrew Wilson IN STUDIO! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ｜ Dating Talk #182

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