Whatever Podcast - She Is 6ft10？! She Gets BORED & Dumps Men？! Single BUT Unavailable？ 3 VlRGlNS？

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00:03:13.560 channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:03:17.380 Please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead. Hi, my name's Macy. I'm 21.

00:03:23.420 I'm from Texas, and I do OnlyFans. All right, and you have, do you, you have a world record?

00:03:30.340 World record. It's a Guinness world record. For what? The female longest legs. That's crazy.

00:03:40.020 And you, how tall are you? I'm 6'10". Nice. Nice. That's cool. But where's your standing on torso?

00:03:49.980 Like, where do you fall in the torso category? Like, are you like second tallest torso? I have no idea.

00:03:57.040 Do they, is that like a thing? Is there a torso? I don't think so. Because there's the legs. They

00:04:00.960 have the legs ranking. But is there a torso ranking? There might be. Like someone with like,

00:04:06.140 just really, okay. Anyways, that's cool. All right. And at what age, you're 21 now, what age did you

00:04:12.500 hit 6'10"? 16. 16. Okay. And were you pretty tall, like throughout most of your like childhood and

00:04:20.220 younger? Yeah, I was about four to five inches taller than everyone in my grade. So I've always been

00:04:26.380 the tall bean. All right. Got it. And you said you do, for work, you do OF. Is that correct?

00:04:33.080 Yes, it is correct. Okay. And you are from Texas. Welcome from Texas. And what about you?

00:04:38.680 Hi, my name is Victoria. I'm 20 years old. I go to UCS. I'm from LA.

00:04:43.580 Garris Godfrey donated $69. Hello panel. Okay. On behalf of Josh from whatever discord,

00:04:50.520 he is a Canadian giga chat and is looking for lady. Must be Christian, not crippled or too old.

00:04:57.320 Low BC. Ladies interested, please see the discord. All right. I'm sure they're going to hop on the

00:05:03.520 discord immediately. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you, Godfrey. Appreciate it. Sorry. So

00:05:08.700 you're 20. You go to UCSB. Yeah. And I'm a bio major. Where are you from originally?

00:05:12.380 LA? Los Angeles. LA. What part? Like West Covina. SGV? Yeah. West Covina. Is that like

00:05:19.480 valley-ish or? No, it's like, how do you describe West Covina? It's that area. Okay. What do you

00:05:25.660 study at UCSB? Biology. Bio. All right. What about you? Hi, my name is Jin. I'm 21 years old and I don't

00:05:33.980 go to school here, but I work full time pretty much at a private home daycare. And were you in

00:05:43.740 school previously or? I was for a little bit. I did a semester taking photography classes, which was

00:05:49.620 really fun and really interesting. And it helped me grow my skill, but ultimately I just realized that

00:05:54.960 that wanted to stay a hobby. Okay. And where are you from? I'm from here. Santa Barbara. Born and raised.

00:06:03.420 Okay. 805. Let's go. What about you? Hi, I'm Sophia. I'm 20 years old. I'm from LA and I'm here. I'm a

00:06:11.160 student here at UCSB. All right. What are you studying? Bio. Bio. All right. You two want to be

00:06:16.740 doctors or? Yeah. Medical doctors. Do you know what kind of specialty you might want to go in yet?

00:06:23.940 I want to do sports physical therapy. Sports physical therapy. What about you? I want to go into

00:06:27.920 cardiovascular surgery. Okay. All right. Surgeon in the making. All right. What about you?

00:06:32.300 I'm Haley. I'm 22 years old. I am from Michigan. I go to Michigan State and I'm an athletic training

00:06:38.120 student at the grad school program. Okay. All right. Welcome. Thank you. What about you? Hi,

00:06:44.440 I'm Kaylani and I go to Michigan State University as well. And my major is kinesiology. Age? Oh,

00:06:51.260 22. Are you guys seniors? I'm in grad school. Oh, grad school. Just about to graduate. Okay. Still

00:06:57.720 undergrad. Okay. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Aaliyah. I'm 31 years old. I'm from Indiana

00:07:04.460 and I work at a casino. All right. What do you do at the casino? I'm a windows and grounds person.

00:07:11.940 So I just walk the property and pick up the trash and wash windows. Is it like pretty chill job? Oh,

00:07:19.100 yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just walk around and stuff. That's cool. Oh, yeah. And are you going to like

00:07:23.820 ever think about going into like being a dealer or anything? Oh, yeah. Definitely. Do you get paid

00:07:28.520 more? Like the dealers get paid more? Oh, yeah. And they get tipped too, right? Oh, yeah. They get

00:07:31.820 tips. They get paid a lot. So I'm going to work my way up there. What would your game be? Like

00:07:36.540 blackjack? Probably Texas Hold'em. Poker. Okay. Cool. All right. What about you there? Hey,

00:07:42.460 I'm Natalie. I'm still a senior in high school. I'm 18 years old and I live in Germany. I'm just

00:07:47.780 here for a vacation. All right. And you're in high school in Germany? Yeah. Right. Okay.

00:07:53.180 And what part of Germany? From Berlin. That's the capital. So you're just here for the? Well,

00:07:59.440 we have summer holidays right now. And I'm in like a program where we have school for two

00:08:03.760 hours a day to improve our English. Oh, you're EF? Yeah. EF? Yeah. Okay. And do you know

00:08:10.860 what you're going to study once you go to college or? Yeah. I want to go to college. Actually,

00:08:15.120 I want to do veterinary medicine. I think it's called in English. Yeah. Okay. Be good

00:08:21.940 with that. Cool. Cool. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Jasmine. I'm 19, also from Moscovina,

00:08:27.340 and I'm a student at UCLA studying astrophysics. Astrophysics. Okay. That's dope. Okay. Do you

00:08:35.680 take math classes and stuff? Yeah. And physics. Okay. Very cool. What about you? Hi, I'm Sophia. I'm 29

00:08:42.340 years old. I do data analysis for work. I'm also a home baker. I own a baking business where I bake

00:08:49.620 wedding cakes, custom cookies, all types of baked goodies. I'm also currently your Miss Nevada

00:08:55.380 United World. I will be competing for... I will be competing for the international title this

00:09:04.120 Labor Day weekend. So that is what's going on with the crown and sash. And you have the sash? What does

00:09:09.480 the sash say? Oh, just... Miss Nevada. Miss Nevada. Yeah. So cute. How do you pronounce... Is it

00:09:15.040 Nevada? Nevada? Nevada. That is a hill I will die on. Nevada. Nevada. It's crazy. It hurts. All right.

00:09:22.780 We got a bunch of people from everywhere today. Cool. Cool. And you sit... Wait, hold on. So

00:09:30.880 that's this weekend? No. Or wait. Labor Day. Oh, Labor Day. Okay. Got it. Cool. All right. So

00:09:35.820 going around the table once more. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. Andrew Wilson, he's going to be doing

00:09:41.040 a call in in two hours, three hours. He will be joining us a little bit later. So going around

00:09:47.020 the table once more, what is everybody's current relationship status? So are you single, talking

00:09:52.720 stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polykill, sex, cult

00:09:57.060 harum, whatever it may be. A lot of ways people get together nowadays. If you're single, how

00:10:02.860 long have you been single? What's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead.

00:10:06.580 I... Well, I am in a relationship and I've been in my relationship with my girlfriend for

00:10:14.900 two months now. And what was the other question? Longest relationship? My longest relationship

00:10:21.880 was only six months. Six months. Okay. And your orientation, are you bi? I'm pansexual. Pan.

00:10:30.220 Okay. All right. So currently dating your girlfriend for two months. And how did you

00:10:37.780 guys meet? We met off of Discord, actually, during COVID. Were you guys, like, gaming together

00:10:45.500 or just... Well, kind of, sort of. She would kind of just pop in the chat while me and my

00:10:52.820 friends were gaming. And then eventually we turned into a friendship. And then we all met

00:10:57.300 each other in real life. And then after that, I was like, you know, I kind of like you. Do

00:11:01.340 you like me? Is it long distance or... Yeah. Okay. Because you're in Texas, met on Discord.

00:11:06.680 Where to... Well, yeah, I guess you don't have to... In any case, it's long distance. How often

00:11:10.940 do you guys see each other in person? I try to visit her at least once a month. Okay. All

00:11:18.080 right. Oh, we forgot. There was a news article. We got pulled a news article from the New York

00:11:22.480 Post about Macy. If you have any doubts as to her credentials, it's been verified. I'm 6'10 and

00:11:31.480 have the world's longest legs. Here's how I date and shop for clothes. Okay. How I date for clothes.

00:11:37.880 Wait. It's a tall... Wow. They did you dirty. It's a tall order having these gargantuan...

00:11:43.480 They did you dirty. First sentence. They did you dirty. Okay. Texas woman boasts world's

00:11:52.340 longest legs. Serious setbacks to being super statuette. Wow. The alliteration there. Serious

00:11:59.320 setbacks to being super statuette. Say that 10 times fast. This journalist needs a... What

00:12:05.980 is it? The Pulitzer prize? I don't know. Okay. Stands at a staggering 6'10". Legs measure

00:12:13.060 52 inches. And then what's the component of dating? Can we find that in the article or...

00:12:17.780 I don't even know. Did... Okay. Scroll down there. Just keep scrolling. Is there anything

00:12:23.320 in there about dating? Is that... Is that mom's? That is my mom. All right. Okay. And is...

00:12:28.640 Is your dad tall or... He's 6'5". 6'5". Okay. Scroll down. All right. Is there... Where's the dating?

00:12:37.940 Do you know what they wrote in there or... I don't think I ever read it. Did they interview...

00:12:42.660 They interviewed you though, right? Yeah. They did, but like... You know. Okay. Okay. Cool. Should

00:12:51.180 we get... Are you down to stand up so the viewers can see how the pipe... Sure. I don't want to hit

00:12:56.520 your camera. Maybe just... You should be fine if you scooted... Just get the thing back and

00:13:02.080 then... Record. Oh. Oh, wow. Can you stand up for comparison? Sure. Just a comparison here.

00:13:10.760 I'm still... Oh, no. How tall are you? I'm 5'4". You're 5'4". So average... Okay. There she is. All right.

00:13:19.960 All right. Thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. All right. And I saw on your

00:13:27.460 link tree that you do advocacy for... One sec. Something called Marfan Syndrome? Marfan Syndrome.

00:13:35.940 Is that... I was... I didn't do research. Is it something that you have or... Yeah. So it's a

00:13:40.480 connective tissue disorder and it mainly affects like my heart. So every year I have to go get

00:13:45.860 my heart checked to see if my aorta has dissected. And if it dissects, you can basically just bleed

00:13:52.620 out internally. Whoa. So it's... It's kind of... So every year you got to go to the doctor

00:13:59.040 and... Yeah. And is that... Is there any... Do people have Marfan Syndrome? Does it...

00:14:04.740 Buck Key Larson donated $75. Hello, MSU girls. I'm an auto worker from Michigan. Go green.

00:14:13.340 Go white. Go white. This is Sparta. This is Sparta. All right. Thank you, Buck Key. Appreciate

00:14:20.680 it. Does it have an impact on height at all or people who have Marfan Syndrome or... Well,

00:14:26.640 yeah. So like if you're taller and you have like longer limbs, you're more likely to have

00:14:34.520 it. But I've also noticed someone DM'd me on Instagram and they're like really short

00:14:38.820 and they also have Marfan. So I don't really know what you, you know, I don't know. Is

00:14:46.740 there any treatments out there or... You can go on medication. I chose to not go on medication.

00:14:53.660 Okay. So that's why I don't play any sports anymore or anything. Gotcha. Okay. And then what

00:15:01.240 about you? Relationship status? I'm single. Single. How long you been single for? Like

00:15:07.700 a year. Like a year. Okay. Longest relationship? Five years. Five years. Oh, wow. When did that

00:15:13.800 end? Was that the one that ended a year ago? Yeah. Okay. Any prospects in this past year?

00:15:19.720 No. Nothing? No. Nothing like even just short-term fling? No. Anything like that? No.

00:15:27.240 No. Side chicks? Nope. Nope. Nothing? Nothing? You got... Who broke up with who in this? I'd be

00:15:32.780 clean. Sorry. Wait, so you've been celibate? I've been celibate. You've been celibate for a year?

00:15:40.600 Hey, good for you. Okay. All right. Wait, actually though, celibate for you? No, yeah. Okay. All

00:15:45.280 right. What do they say with like long relationships? It takes you like half the time of the relationship

00:15:51.080 to get over it? Is that... Have you found that to be the case or? No, not really. Who broke

00:15:58.740 up with who? I broke up with him. Why is that? Just long distance wasn't working. Long distance. Wait.

00:16:04.360 Yeah. So you guys met in high school, I'm assuming. Yes. And then you dated for a period during college,

00:16:09.200 but it was long distance at that point. Yeah. So you guys went to high school together. Yes. And

00:16:13.000 then the distance made it complicated. Yeah. Was there infidelity? No. It was just like...

00:16:18.620 It was hard because of the distance. Yeah. Okay. How did he take it?

00:16:25.980 It's hard. Okay. It was hard. Do you guys still talk? No. Okay. No. All right. What about you?

00:16:37.460 It's complicated. I don't know really how to quite describe our relationship. I guess the best

00:16:42.340 way would be situationship. Mm-hmm. I think in your pre-show notes, you described it as you're

00:16:48.080 single, but you exclusively... You're exclusive with one hookup. Yeah. Okay. So there's a guy

00:16:56.000 in the picture. Yeah. Okay. Just one guy or... Well, exclusive. I mean, like, there are a couple

00:17:02.200 guys that I find really attractive and I've been, like, kind of looking at my options, but

00:17:08.080 yeah, I'm kind of just really content with this one guy. Okay. So single, but there's one

00:17:15.080 guy... How long have you been seeing this one guy? Not long at all. Like, maybe a couple

00:17:23.820 weeks. A couple what? A couple weeks. Oh, weeks. Okay. Yeah. Like, maybe a month max. And we

00:17:29.680 don't even see each other that often. Okay. Let's see. So does he live in town? Yeah. Okay.

00:17:36.900 How often do you see him? Um... I've seen him probably maybe... Well, it depends. I don't

00:17:47.880 know. It's weird. We'll go out and then we'll see each other at, like, bars and stuff. So

00:17:52.640 I don't know if that really counts. But, like, hanging out-wise, I guess, probably three

00:17:56.060 or four times. You both go out to bars and clubs? Mm-hmm. And you'll see him? Yeah. You

00:18:01.220 see him flirting with other women? Um, no. Not flirting with other women, to be honest.

00:18:06.320 I don't know. That's also one of the things of our, like, situationship where it's just,

00:18:10.400 like, no pressure. And we're both free to do as we please. But at the end of the day,

00:18:16.340 we both know that we're going to only be hooking up with each other if we choose to take someone

00:18:20.340 home. So you aren't exclusive? No, we are. You're exclusively hooking up. But at any given

00:18:27.140 moment, another person could come into the picture and you could have sex with them? Yeah.

00:18:32.160 I... I mean, I guess I would hope that, like, we would both respect each other enough to, like,

00:18:41.440 tell the other one and then just, like, you know, stop seeing the other person.

00:18:46.480 Mm-hmm. So you guys are both... But we both...

00:18:50.320 We both have this mutual understanding of, like, we're not going to hook up with other

00:18:54.800 people. Unless there's a determination that's been made that this new person is superior in

00:19:02.080 some way to one of you, in which case the relationship ends instantly and then they'll

00:19:07.520 go sleep with the other person. That's true. Right? I mean, if some guy who you thought

00:19:13.540 was really good... In which case, then, hey, he's more welcome to do that. Right.

00:19:17.000 And I can't do anything about it. Sure. But so... I'm not going to be butthurt over it.

00:19:22.560 You guys don't have a title. There's no title. You're not, like, boyfriend, girlfriend. No.

00:19:26.120 No title. And you said a couple weeks, three, four weeks? Yeah.

00:19:28.480 Okay. And you said there are potentially other guys in the picture, but you're not hooking

00:19:33.960 up with them. Is that correct? I'm not hooking up with them. We said there's a couple guys

00:19:36.260 who... I'm not flirting with them. I've just, like, they're guys that I, like, know of and

00:19:41.360 I'm just like, okay, you're kind of cute. I could maybe see something with you. But ultimately,

00:19:47.040 I have my mind set on this one person because... Would you like this current situation to be

00:19:51.360 more? If he's listening, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really like him. But, I mean, like,

00:20:01.200 if he wants to find someone else, then, hey, there's nothing I can do about that. Have you

00:20:04.460 had a conversation about this? We've had a conversation at least about what I want because

00:20:14.220 I met him coming out of, like, a pretty shite relationship. Or not relationship. Honestly,

00:20:21.740 I would not qualify it as a relationship because we were stuck in the talking phase for way too

00:20:27.080 long. How long?

00:20:28.960 Like, three or four months. Okay.

00:20:32.060 And we would hang out a lot. And it was just a very interesting experience. He's gonna sit

00:20:38.220 by the fact that, you know, I'm the one at fault for everything. But, um... Were you?

00:20:45.500 No. I mean, I was definitely at fault for some of the things. But I came to realize he didn't like

00:20:50.940 how I, like, wasn't able to, like, open up and, like, lean on him. Like, you know how some people

00:20:55.900 have, like, good and bad days? That's me. And I'll have, like, good and bad days. I'll have,

00:21:00.220 like, a great day. And then I'll be like, oh, yeah. Like, I'll see my plans through with this person.

00:21:04.620 But if it's a bad day, I'm just like, okay, yeah. I don't really want to see you. I don't

00:21:07.580 want to bring my bad attitude to you. And I don't want to, like, bombard you with all of my

00:21:12.540 overwhelmings. And so that was just something that he was, like, very adamant that I did not do.

00:21:20.380 He was like, I want you to still come see me. I want you to lean on me. I want you to do these

00:21:23.580 things. But I was just like, you're not my boyfriend. I'm not gonna do it unless you are

00:21:29.180 my boyfriend. Because otherwise, you're just, I'm gonna lean on you. And then what? You're gonna get

00:21:33.500 up and leave. I'm not gonna lean on someone. When you were dating this guy, did you want

00:21:39.180 it to be more serious? Yeah, 100%. So did you ever have overt conversations about that?

00:21:46.300 We definitely did. But there was definitely a lot of things that never got talked about.

00:21:50.940 Were you guys exclusive? We were.

00:21:57.580 Isn't that a, I mean, if you're, like, exclusive with somebody.

00:22:02.300 I know, you would think that would be, like, a little. Isn't that essentially boyfriend-girlfriend?

00:22:06.140 I don't know. I mean, I guess, yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

00:22:12.620 It's confusing these days. But I mean, like, okay, you have the conversation. What are we?

00:22:19.900 What is this? And then the guy says what?

00:22:26.220 Well, okay, the way I heard it from, like, one of his friends was that he wanted to make

00:22:32.620 the relationship official for a while, but just didn't feel comfortable doing that because

00:22:37.420 I couldn't do the things that a girlfriend needed to do. But I was like, sir.

00:22:41.820 Which is what?

00:22:45.420 I don't even fully know how to, like, get into all of this. Just the good, healthy communication

00:22:53.740 and, like, there were definitely things that were my fault. I wouldn't lean on him. I wouldn't do

00:22:58.060 certain things that a good girlfriend would do. But to be fair, I wasn't his girlfriend. And I would

00:23:03.500 tell him that when he would want me to lean on him. And I'd be like, I'm not going to lean over me.

00:23:06.940 Like, I'm not going to tell you every horrible thing that's been going on in my head right now,

00:23:14.220 because it's just going to do nothing but overwhelm you and make me feel like you now see me in an ugly

00:23:18.940 light. And then I'm overwhelmed. And like, I also just felt like he was going to judge me for whatever

00:23:25.580 I had to say. But what was what were the the girlfriend things he wanted you to do that you

00:23:33.260 weren't? It wasn't anything like it mostly had to just do with, like, communication and being able

00:23:40.300 to see plans through. You get really frustrated whenever I would, like, make plans and then later

00:23:44.780 cancel because I was, like, having a shit horrible moment. So, yeah, a lot of them are literally just,

00:23:55.420 like, really, like, basic level things that I should have been able to do with someone

00:24:02.060 that I actually cared for. I have no problem showing up for my friends, being there for my friends,

00:24:07.180 talking with my friends. It was, like, this weird pressure where I just couldn't do it with him.

00:24:16.460 He wanted, like, good, healthy communication where I talked to him about anything. I was

00:24:21.980 honest with him about anything, even if it was, like, really hard for me, even if I thought,

00:24:29.580 I don't know, despite whatever was going on in my head. But I just, I don't know, I couldn't do it.

00:24:35.580 All right. And then there's this current guy. You were saying how

00:24:43.660 you want to be boyfriend, girlfriend, but haven't had the conversation.

00:24:49.580 I'd like to, yeah. Yeah, I'd like to be with him, but I don't, I don't know. He seemed like not a

00:24:57.900 relationship type. He seems content with what we are now. I'll put it like that. It's probably

00:25:05.420 a better way. Just having, like, a hookup every now and then, basically, kind of casual. Yeah.

00:25:11.740 And are you okay with that? Thank you. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be okay with that,

00:25:19.580 but I definitely do want something more in the future, whether that's with him, not with him.

00:25:27.100 The moment of deciding will come, I guess. All right. Did you say longest relationship?

00:25:33.500 I did not. Um, maybe a little under two years. All right. Was that a situationship too, or was

00:25:42.380 that actually a boyfriend? That was actually a boyfriend. All right. Cool. Cool. All right. What

00:25:46.860 about you? I've been single all my life. Okay. Single all your life. Uh, any interaction with the

00:25:54.860 opposite sex at all? A lot. A lot. I just can't commit. You can't commit. You're the non-committal

00:26:04.700 one. Okay. And, uh, what's the longest period of time you've seen somebody? A little over a year.

00:26:12.780 Wait, hold on. Okay. Was it on again, off again, or? On again, off again. A lot. Okay. A couple

00:26:19.580 questions. Did you call this person your boyfriend? No. Okay. But it was so situationship. I don't know

00:26:27.420 what to call it. Uh, how old were you? Last year. Okay. So you're fresh, freshman or sophomore? Sophomore

00:26:35.580 in college. I see. Okay. One year situation, situationship. How many times was it off and on?

00:26:45.420 Three times. Three times. Who would end it? Me? All, all three times you ended it. Yes. And

00:26:55.420 then who would go back to the other asking for it back? Him. You would end it. He would come

00:27:02.900 back. Why would you end it? Because I would get bored. Why would you come back? Huh? Sorry.

00:27:09.580 Why would you come back? What? Sorry. I never went back. Huh? Go ahead. Wait. Oh, why did I go

00:27:14.920 back? Yeah. Because then I got bored again. That's what I love about. So why'd you end it?

00:27:22.820 What? Okay. Wait. So, so when you say you got bored, what does that mean?

00:27:31.700 Hmm. I get bored with a person. How so? Like, you know, I don't know how to explain it. It's

00:27:43.720 like, do you know the three month rule? You're always excited to see this person and you just

00:27:47.920 want to hang out with them all the time. And then like that feeling just slowly fades away.

00:27:51.700 You saw that on TikTok? Yeah, exactly. So it's a rule. It's like a law of physics. Yeah.

00:27:56.760 Exactly. After three months, the person's just terribly dull and boring. Boring, I guess.

00:28:03.200 Okay. So three months and he was like, he was boring or you would get bored? I would get bored.

00:28:12.940 Okay. And this, like, is there any blame on this individual for you getting bored? Like maybe

00:28:19.600 you weren't. He's too sweet. Too nice. Oh gosh. Well, I, okay. Too nice. Too sweet.

00:28:27.180 This is why women say there's. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's, let's, hold on. Okay.

00:28:31.920 So when you say he was too sweet, okay. Uh, in what ways was he too sweet? So you know

00:28:39.300 how you're only young once and you just want to do like crazy things and you just like want

00:28:43.800 him to grab you in the face and like kiss you one day. But then like, he's always like,

00:28:47.260 can I, can I, can I? And it's like, dude, it's so boring.

00:28:50.280 You mean asking for consent?

00:28:51.280 Just do it.

00:28:52.520 Oh.

00:28:55.060 Well, okay. But that's the thing is like, if you're seeing someone, you shouldn't have

00:28:58.680 to continually ask for consent every time. Wait, I mean like, I don't, I, that's just

00:29:07.320 my personal thing. Like if you're dating someone or seeing someone on the regular, I wouldn't

00:29:11.720 constantly be like, is it okay if I can kiss you? I would just kiss them because I'm comfortable.

00:29:17.580 But hold on, let's get a, let's get some more specifics here. In every instance he wanted

00:29:21.700 to kiss you, he asked you for your permission.

00:29:24.560 Exactly.

00:29:25.260 No, no way.

00:29:26.140 No, no, no. I'm not saying like consent. I don't think I can do it. No, it's cause it's

00:29:31.500 like, why are you getting so nervous every single time? Why are you not comfortable?

00:29:36.080 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:36.900 Into the mics. Um, there's a lot to unpack here. Um, so, okay. You were for a year. And so when

00:29:49.160 you would go off, would you see other people in the off periods?

00:29:54.320 Of course.

00:29:55.400 Of course. Okay. And then, and then I think if I recall you saying you, you were, I don't

00:30:02.820 want to put words in your mouth. You said something along the lines of you were looking for, for

00:30:07.300 fun or excitement or I'm trying to remember what you said.

00:30:12.720 Fun and excitement.

00:30:14.640 Okay. In your dating life.

00:30:16.380 Exactly.

00:30:17.240 Does that include so variety?

00:30:19.260 Mm-hmm.

00:30:19.920 Okay. Uh, and prior to this guy, have you, I mean,

00:30:24.320 you said you've been single your whole life, but at no point you guys called each other

00:30:28.420 boyfriend, girlfriend.

00:30:29.320 Never.

00:30:30.640 I'm confused though. So you'd break up with him because you were bored, but you'd also

00:30:33.800 get back together with him because you're bored. I kind of get it almost.

00:30:38.180 Mm-hmm.

00:30:39.040 Exactly.

00:30:39.440 But is it because when you guys were not together, no other men materialized?

00:30:44.400 Mm-hmm. Kind of, yeah.

00:30:47.020 Okay. So you'd break up with him because you want a new guy,

00:30:51.180 but no new guys came along?

00:30:54.020 They did, but then we would break it off. So then I'd get bored.

00:30:57.020 You'd break it off with the new guys.

00:30:58.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:59.340 Okay.

00:30:59.860 Why go back to the other guy then?

00:31:02.860 Comfort?

00:31:03.780 Yeah.

00:31:04.780 Convenience?

00:31:05.160 Yeah.

00:31:05.800 It's a comfort.

00:31:06.400 You're used to him.

00:31:07.080 Uh-huh.

00:31:07.420 Yeah.

00:31:09.080 Okay. Um, that's, it's an interesting one. And so, uh, when's the last time you, or you

00:31:16.080 said you've been single, well, your whole life, your whole life, but so when's the last

00:31:20.640 time you, it's off currently with this guy, correct?

00:31:23.720 I saw him four days ago.

00:31:25.740 Okay.

00:31:26.660 And, but did you off it at four days ago or you're kind of on?

00:31:30.580 Yes.

00:31:31.400 It's off.

00:31:32.000 Yeah.

00:31:32.620 Oh, man.

00:31:34.420 This guy is a glutton for punishment.

00:31:37.480 Okay.

00:31:37.880 All right. And has he been, now that it's been off for four days, has he been trying

00:31:44.580 to win you back over, trying to get back with you?

00:31:47.540 Yes.

00:31:48.400 Can we, you got to show us these text messages. I got to see this.

00:31:53.820 No.

00:31:57.220 Okay. So, like, is it, does he, does he cry when you break up with him?

00:32:05.460 I don't know.

00:32:06.640 Is he sad?

00:32:07.880 Well, he asked me last time, well, three days, four days ago when I saw him, he was

00:32:12.480 like, why do you always ghost me? I don't remember. I blacked out.

00:32:16.900 So.

00:32:17.960 As in you were from alcohol.

00:32:20.860 Blacked out from alcohol.

00:32:22.180 Yes.

00:32:23.980 Yes.

00:32:26.380 Interesting. Okay.

00:32:30.420 And so, um, I'm just curious, uh, white guy, black guy, Asian guy.

00:32:37.880 Asian guy.

00:32:39.940 Okay. And, uh, have you seen a new guy since you broke up with him four days ago?

00:32:47.960 No.

00:32:48.820 No.

00:32:49.800 Okay. Um, besides him, is there any other guys you've seen for kind of extended periods of

00:32:55.960 time, even if, off and on?

00:32:58.360 Yes.

00:32:59.020 What's the longest?

00:33:00.560 A year.

00:33:01.560 Oh, there's another year guy.

00:33:03.500 Was that also off and on?

00:33:05.640 Yes.

00:33:06.280 How many? Okay.

00:33:07.160 I like this girl. She's, she's funny. Okay.

00:33:11.220 Uh, and it was, uh, how many times was it off and on?

00:33:17.060 Four times.

00:33:18.060 If you said, you're about to say three. Okay. Four, four times with this guy. And may I guess,

00:33:25.660 were you bored?

00:33:26.480 You got bored. Yes.

00:33:29.040 Oh.

00:33:30.160 You got bored. Okay.

00:33:32.040 Yeah. He was too busy.

00:33:34.420 Too busy. So he was too busy. The other guy, too sweet.

00:33:38.420 Yes.

00:33:39.060 Wait, this is making me sound so bad.

00:33:40.800 No.

00:33:42.120 No, the honesty is much appreciated and the forthcomingness. Uh, it's good. Uh, you often

00:33:48.320 don't hear this sort of, uh, forthcomingness with it from people. Uh, so too sweet. Did

00:33:56.780 it, would this guy like buy you flowers and compliment you all the time? And he never bought

00:34:01.820 me flowers. Would he simp? No, he didn't simp pay for dates. Oh, he would. Okay. Yeah. But too

00:34:08.620 sweet in terms of his demeanor, like how he acted towards you. Oh, actually he did buy

00:34:12.480 me flowers. I lied. Ah, the first guy. Yeah. And then the other guy was too busy because

00:34:17.920 he was, he was a CS guy. So computer science. Yeah. That's pretty serious there of a major.

00:34:24.180 Okay. So, um, um, Hmm. Interesting. Interesting. I have so many questions. Um, are you desirous of

00:34:38.140 something a little more stable? Yes.

00:34:42.020 Um, I'm sorry. I'm gathering my thoughts here. Um, your desires of something more stable,

00:34:53.920 but it needs to be with the guy who is not so sweet and has enough time, but maybe not

00:35:00.740 too much time so as to become boring. I want a long distance relationship. Maybe see each

00:35:06.660 other once every two weeks. What if it's not long distance, but you still see each other

00:35:13.520 just once every two weeks. So he's local or would you feel too tempted? He would want

00:35:17.880 to see me too many times. So no, he would. How do you know? What if it's a guy who has

00:35:21.800 like milk toast interest? But no. So the guy has to be very interested, but only wants

00:35:32.720 to see you once every two weeks. Exactly. Are you trying, is she trolling Chad? I can't,

00:35:40.660 I don't know. I can second. She's being very serious. I don't know. She's just super honest

00:35:45.540 or trolling. But her delivery is also funny too. You should be a standup comedian. Just

00:35:53.120 drop out of UCSB and start standup. Um, I kind of believe her. I believe her. You guys,

00:35:59.180 are you guys roommates, housemates? We're best friends. Okay, cool. Uh, I'll come back to

00:36:05.600 you, to you a little bit later. What about you? I am single. I've been out, I've been single

00:36:11.460 for about four or five months and my longest relationship, probably three years. But in

00:36:20.060 that three years, we only really dated for maybe like four months total with a couple

00:36:26.900 breaks. Wait, three years, but together you were only for four months. Yeah. Like putting

00:36:31.620 the label on it. Okay. But you were like hanging out. Yeah, we were, we just like, he, I should

00:36:38.180 say just wouldn't, couldn't be with me, but we were best friends and I was home to him and blah,

00:36:43.320 blah, blah, blah, blah. So we were best friends and I was talking to someone, he was talking to

00:36:47.500 somebody, both ended the relationships. So we're together, but he couldn't put a label on it, but

00:36:53.580 wanted to do every relationship thing with me. Eventually he got to the point of putting the label

00:36:58.720 on it, but then about like a month and a half in, it ended. And then we like tried again because

00:37:06.360 we were best friends, we couldn't break up. And then it ended this past like March, April.

00:37:11.940 Okay. And did you say it was off again, on again, on again, off again?

00:37:15.600 For the first year it was just because we weren't exclusive. We were just pretty much

00:37:20.660 really good friends. We'll both talking to our own people, but we knew we had feelings for each other.

00:37:26.260 And then the last, since January of 2022, we have only been exclusive with each other. We just

00:37:33.580 going to have a label until November of 2023 or October of 2023.

00:37:37.900 Okay. Got it. And then what about you?

00:37:42.180 Hold on.

00:37:43.240 Morgan sniffs Brian's chair donated $69. Ladies, would you date Brian? On one hand,

00:37:50.740 he is tall, six foot one, blue eyes, rich, sometimes funny, successful, but he has a dead bod,

00:37:57.820 probably autistic, has a weird liking for big labial outies and a small peepee.

00:38:02.640 Okay. That, hold, it's, okay, hold, that's, it's average first off. Get it right, dude.

00:38:08.700 Okay.

00:38:09.320 Okay, fine. We'll go around the table. Would you date me?

00:38:14.360 Probably not.

00:38:15.900 Am I too tall for you?

00:38:18.200 You're a man.

00:38:19.640 Oh.

00:38:19.800 There you go.

00:38:20.520 Wait, I thought, I thought you're a pan though.

00:38:22.720 Yeah, but like, I've had so many bad experiences with men that it's like, I'm kind of like turned

00:38:27.920 off by them. Okay. But if, if I were to transition, would, would I have a shot?

00:38:36.060 Ooh, maybe.

00:38:37.060 Ooh. All right. It's in the works. Call up the surgeon. Okay. All right. That's interesting.

00:38:44.140 We'll touch on that later. What about you?

00:38:46.040 I'm sorry, Brian. No.

00:38:47.960 Is it because I'm white?

00:38:50.640 No.

00:38:51.120 Okay. Just checking. Just a racism check. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding.

00:38:54.900 No, no, no. All right.

00:38:56.160 No, don't clip me. I'm just kidding.

00:38:58.060 Okay. That's fine. You won't offend me. I won't be offended. Don't worry.

00:39:02.360 No, probably not.

00:39:03.620 All right. What about you?

00:39:05.440 How old are you?

00:39:06.360 35.

00:39:07.240 No.

00:39:08.320 Now, what about you?

00:39:10.020 Um, I mean, your eyes are gorgeous and everything, but probably not. Fair. Fair. I'm sorry, but

00:39:14.820 no. Fair. No. I'm married. Congratulations. Thank you. All right. Germany? No, you're pretty

00:39:22.820 old. I'm pretty old. No. Hey, it's okay. It's all right, you know. If I speak German, does

00:39:29.380 that change anything? Um, if you get younger, maybe. I feel like my boyfriend's going to look

00:39:34.780 like you when he's older, so maybe. Okay. What about you? Um, no, it's an age thing. All right.

00:39:41.080 Fair enough. And no, it's a difference in values. A values difference. Okay. We'll get into that

00:39:46.660 later. All right. Thank you for that. Uh, by the way, TTS, we're bumping the TTS up to, uh,

00:39:52.660 it's up to 200 now, guys. So, uh, it should be shifted. TTS is 200. Read is 100. Display is 10.

00:40:01.320 Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Let me just make, double check, make sure that's all

00:40:04.700 set your relationship status. I am single, but not available. What the hell does that

00:40:10.080 mean? Um, I'm single, but I'm not interested or looking for anyone. So there's a guy in

00:40:16.340 the picture then? He was, but my heart is still for him. That's why I have to heal. Okay.

00:40:23.740 So you're single. Now, if I recall you, this isn't new either because you, in your pre-show

00:40:30.880 notes, when you reached out, at least going back to May, this is a disclosure you made

00:40:35.320 in May that you're single, but not available. Yes. So you were dating somebody. Yes. And

00:40:42.000 although you're not together, you, because of him, you won't date somebody else. I still

00:40:48.080 love him and it wouldn't be fair for me or another person. Um, so how long were you guys

00:40:52.420 dating? Um, almost a year and a half. And for, uh, for how long have you been single? Um,

00:41:01.400 a couple of months now. Uh, when did you guys break up? So we broke up in November, but we

00:41:09.360 were still, I know, but we were still talking. It was complicated because we still love each

00:41:15.100 other, but it's also a difference in religion. So what do you mean? I'm Christian and he's

00:41:22.780 Muslim. And so, and that would cause an issue for him or you or both? It was, um, I think

00:41:30.620 both. I'm pretty sure both equally strong of an issue for both. Did you not know he was

00:41:39.580 Muslim when you met him? No, I did. And I, I, I, I knew what I was doing. He's complicated. Yeah.

00:41:46.000 We'll just say that. Well, how it doesn't occur to me that it's complicated at all. You knew he

00:41:50.980 was Muslim. You're a Christian. If that has, if that's a conflict of values, how could it possibly

00:41:56.440 be complicated? Because it was love is love. Um, so you guys officially broke up in November. So

00:42:08.720 nine months ago ish. Yeah. Okay. Nine months ago. And then, but you continued seeing each

00:42:17.980 other. Uh, when's the last time you've been in communication with him? Probably about a

00:42:28.380 month and a half ago. Do you guys still hang out? No. When's the last time you saw him in

00:42:33.160 person? A month and a half ago. What was the nature of your hangout? Um,

00:42:38.720 we were just talking and in person, it was just like closure. Honestly, it was just closure.

00:42:44.880 It was a, from the breakup seven months prior. I know. Yeah. And for the, okay. So you officially

00:42:54.620 ended things nine months ago, your closure conversations persisted for a period of

00:43:00.980 seven months. Yeah. Because we weren't dating, but we were, it was just complicated in those

00:43:07.400 months. Were you guys living together? No, no, no, no, no, no. Were your finances mixed

00:43:11.880 up? No. How was it complicated? Because we both love each other and we still wanted to be

00:43:19.060 together. But he, he needs time right now. And I just, I need to focus on God. Um, okay.

00:43:29.000 So single, but not available. Now, did you guys continue hooking up? No, no. So official

00:43:36.420 breakup in November. Mm-hmm. But you guys were hooking up, you guys were hooking up prior

00:43:41.380 to that. I don't want to talk about that stuff. You're on a dating podcast. I know. But yeah.

00:43:47.860 But so you were hooking up. Mm-hmm. But then no hooking up at all. Not even once. Mm-hmm.

00:43:53.700 Not even a cuddle? Yeah. Yeah. We would kiss and stuff. Yeah. Hold on. Well, no, no, wait.

00:43:58.440 Just to clarify. After the breakup, would there be kissing? Yes. Cuddling? Yes. Heavy

00:44:04.260 petting. What's that? Like, titty grabbing. Uh, no. But you would cuddle and kiss. Yeah.

00:44:13.600 Yep. But you were broken up. Yes. But you had sex previously. Yes. But, and, but no sex after

00:44:26.320 the breakup. Mm-hmm. But you were still in love. Mm-hmm. But you weren't together, but you

00:44:31.740 were still kissing. Mm-hmm. And cuddling. But not together. Um, was, so the, you said

00:44:39.420 you had this closure conversation a month, month and a half ago. Uh, was that a final closure

00:44:45.600 conversation or was that like a preliminary closure conversation where there will be a

00:44:49.720 follow-up closure conversation? Um, right now, it's just, we're just done right now. We're

00:44:58.240 just, it's done. Like, nail in the coffin. Mm-hmm. Never gonna talk to you again. Never

00:45:03.580 gonna see you again. Done. Well, I'll probably see him. We go to the same college. MSU? It's

00:45:09.760 a big college, isn't it? I know. It is. But, I mean, I sometimes see random people. Mm-hmm.

00:45:14.880 Yeah, you just sometimes see him. Yeah, I could be out grocery shopping or something and I might

00:45:18.180 say, you know. Um, uh, do you think it's made it difficult to move on given that you guys

00:45:29.040 continued to see each other and cuddled and kissed? Definitely. Because I didn't want to

00:45:34.280 move on. But why continue, why continue seeing each other? Mm-hmm. And like most people when

00:45:39.780 they break up, at least, I mean, if, if your intention is this is over. Because we want it,

00:45:44.500 yeah, because we wanted to get together. But we would just sometimes, it was a lot of

00:45:49.120 arguing. We would just argue a lot. And so it would just sometimes get toxic. And that's

00:45:55.700 why we were like, we can't be. Well, initially you said you broke up because of a difference

00:45:58.840 in values. Yeah. Because he's a Muslim. It's all of it though. And you're a Christian. Yeah.

00:46:01.760 It's a lot. Was it arguing due to the Christianity and Islam or for just? Actually, sometimes,

00:46:07.680 yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Well, what was the nature of like some of these other arguments

00:46:12.680 and disagreements that had nothing to do with religion? Mm-hmm. I mean, even secular couples

00:46:20.000 are fine things to argue about. Yeah. It, I don't know. It was getting to the point where we would

00:46:24.620 just argue about honestly everything. It was just getting kind of toxic. Even post-breakup? Mm-hmm.

00:46:32.320 So you broke up, but you'd continue to argue? Yeah. I can't explain it. Okay. I'm trying.

00:46:39.580 Okay. Um, and so you said, you said you've been celibate. Mm-hmm. Okay. Uh, at what point

00:46:49.400 will you, so you said you're single, but not available. Mm-hmm. At what point will you,

00:46:53.020 do you think you will be available? Um, when I am fully with, I just, I just need to really,

00:47:00.520 really focus on God. And when God lays the man for me, I will know.

00:47:05.660 What if God tells you that this is the man? If, um, if that is the man, then, then he's the man.

00:47:18.320 But he's not Christian. Because that would not work. No, that would not work. We, we could not

00:47:23.480 get married. But what if God told you? God wouldn't. What if he did? But he didn't. Well,

00:47:28.100 he hasn't, but what if he did in the future? That would be because he... Would you convert to

00:47:32.840 Islam? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But God spoke to you. God would never speak to me and tell me to

00:47:38.180 be a different religion. Yeah. Especially if I'm a Christian and I believe that Jesus Christ is my

00:47:42.940 Lord and Savior. Okay, that logically checks out. He would never tell me that, oh, now you're just a

00:47:46.860 prophet. No, I believe Jesus is God. I don't, that just wouldn't work for me. All right. Were you

00:47:52.400 religious prior, like this religious prior to meeting him? Um, I was pretty lukewarm actually. Okay. Um,

00:48:00.020 last year. I was very lukewarm. Um, and that's probably why I was like, oh, it's fine. And then

00:48:06.480 it's really not because I think I actually grew closer, um, to my faith because I was trying to,

00:48:12.920 it sounds so bad, but like, I was trying to like show him that his was wrong in the beginning.

00:48:19.000 Yeah. Which is terrible. I know. But, and then I actually grew closer because... Is he devoutly Muslim?

00:48:23.880 Yeah. He's, he just, he's opening his eyes. Like, I've just been praying for him. I can see why you

00:48:30.820 guys argued. Um, what about you? I'm married. Uh, we've been married for four years and we've been

00:48:36.880 dating for about eight. Sorry, married for four, married for four, dating. And I, I don't mean

00:48:42.420 because you're argumentative. I mean, because, uh, of the difference of, of faith and you trying to

00:48:48.280 proselytize to a Muslim. Um, go ahead. Um, yeah, we've been dating for seven years and married for

00:48:56.920 four. Dating for, all right. Is this your longest? He's my longest. Yes. All right. How did you guys

00:49:01.320 meet? Uh, we met in high school. Okay, cool. What about you? Well, it's pretty hard because if you

00:49:10.040 say you see your boyfriend, like every two weeks, I see him in like three times a year because we met in

00:49:15.560 America. So he's, he lives in Missouri and I was, yeah, I live in Germany. So that's like

00:49:21.880 thousand, $500 every time we want to see each other. How long have you guys been together?

00:49:27.400 For in a couple of days, it's two years actually. And thank you. Okay. Two years. You guys met here.

00:49:36.280 Uh, yeah. In Missouri, I was there for an exchange year in high school. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Two years

00:49:42.840 ago almost. And we've been starting dating pretty quickly. And yeah, then I had to leave and we're

00:49:50.040 only seeing each other like a couple of times. And so you said you've been together though for two

00:49:55.240 years? Yeah. Okay. It's, we've met like, I think we've known each other for like four days until we

00:50:01.640 dated. Like it was really fast. Wait, hold on. So you were in an exchange program. You were in Missouri.

00:50:08.680 How long were you in Missouri for? For 11 months. And, but you met him like four days before you

00:50:15.440 were going to leave? Oh, no, no, no. Like how long were you? I was in Missouri for, um, yeah, like right.

00:50:20.660 I met him right in the beginning and like, um, four days after I met him, we started dating.

00:50:28.180 Okay. All right. I see. But you've only, after the separation in terms of distance,

00:50:33.720 you've only seen him four times. Yeah. Okay. And he's, has he gone to Germany? Yeah. He's been

00:50:39.200 there once and he, yeah, it's hard because we both have school so we can't just fly whenever we want

00:50:46.220 to. Is he coming to California to see you or? No, he's busy right now, unfortunately. All right.

00:50:51.680 And otherwise is the relationship good? Yeah, it's good. And, um, like when we see each other,

00:50:58.340 we're obviously like super happy and then maybe that's good because you said like the three months

00:51:03.000 rule or you, I don't remember. So, um, so we still then have some distance from each other if we like

00:51:09.480 get annoyed. All right. And, um, were the German lads not doing it for you or? Yeah. I've never had a

00:51:18.520 boyfriend before him actually. Um, I don't know. It's just never the right guy. All right. Um,

00:51:25.880 but it's also, we have, I'd say we have similar culture, but some things is a little different

00:51:32.000 with dating also. Like when we're at his parents' house, I sometimes get mad that like, I feel like

00:51:39.260 Americans' parents are really protective that you don't do certain stuff, at least with his parents.

00:51:45.160 And we have to like keep the door open and everything. And I don't really, I don't know,

00:51:49.740 don't agree with that. So. Why? I, I don't know. Like I'm used to like parents just like asking like,

00:51:57.800 yeah, should I maybe leave? And you want to be alone with your boyfriend in the house?

00:52:01.740 And I don't see the reason for not like being allowed to do stuff.

00:52:08.300 He lives at home with his parents, I, I assume, right? Yeah. He's still 18. Um,

00:52:14.320 I imagine it's because they don't want you having sex. Yeah, but why? Huh? Why? Are you guys?

00:52:20.740 What? Are you guys hooking up? We're, what I mean? Are you having sex? Are you guys having sex?

00:52:26.740 How do you say sex in German? Sex? No. Uh, well, if his parents weren't, yeah, but not as, yeah.

00:52:35.740 Not as much as you'd like because the door has to stay open. But if we only have like two weeks,

00:52:39.840 that sucks. Okay. Yeah. I mean, they probably, uh, I don't know. They're, you guys are both young,

00:52:46.480 you know? So probably at least at the time you guys been together for two years, probably didn't

00:52:51.980 want you guys fucking while they're in the living room or some shit, you know? Yeah. Maybe it's a

00:52:56.920 little different and yeah, the parents are just like, here's a condom. Here's some lube. Is that

00:53:05.920 how it is in Germany? Yeah. Wait, what? Actually? I mean, they, I mean, I can, we can buy our own

00:53:11.320 condoms, but they're like, yeah, have fun. I don't know. Are you so serious? Yeah. I mean,

00:53:16.360 they just teach you about how to use protection or whatever, and then it works. I don't know.

00:53:22.140 Interesting. Cool. All right. And, um, but you said it's otherwise a good relationship. Oh yeah. Um,

00:53:30.980 okay. What about you? Um, currently single, um, longest relationship was probably around a year

00:53:37.440 and a half and, oh, sorry. Longest relationship, probably a year and a half and recent relationship

00:53:44.940 was like three months. That happened like over a year ago. So you've been single for a year? Yes.

00:53:51.640 And longest 1.5 years. Uh, the one that ended most recently, uh, in the, in these two, so the three

00:54:01.660 month 1.5 year one, who ended it? Um, the first, the longest relationship, it was both of us ended it.

00:54:11.440 So it's like, there was one mutual, I ended one, he ended one, cause it was three times we ended things.

00:54:16.820 And then the second relationship was, I ended it. Yeah. Okay. Uh, what about you? I'm engaged.

00:54:26.880 Aw. Congrats. Thanks. It's also my longest relationship. Um, this October will be four

00:54:33.500 years together. All right. Show us the ring. That's beautiful. Congratulations. He loves me

00:54:41.720 very much. Aw. All right. Cool. Well, we've got everybody's, uh, relationship status. So, uh, let's

00:54:48.820 get into some of the pre-show notes here. So who do we have first? Uh, we don't have Angelina. Hold on.

00:54:59.740 Is it from previous show? Uh, we'll do. Yeah. Why not? Okay. We had a girl who was going to be on

00:55:06.120 last, last episode, but wasn't able to make it. We were going to review her dating app, but she's,

00:55:12.760 we forgot to do it last show. So we're just going to do it right now. Dating app review. Go ahead,

00:55:17.740 Nick, pull it up. Okay. This is her. All right. She wants to break the ice by running a race. Loser

00:55:25.100 has to make all the small talk. Propose to me in public. Talk like we've known each other for years.

00:55:29.800 Next. Uh, going on a spontaneous, dating me is like going on a spontaneous adventure.

00:55:37.600 What does that mean to, well, okay. We'll get back to that. Uh, Princeton short, she's looking

00:55:42.140 for short term and she's non-monogamous. That means if you're, you know, this is for the viewers in the

00:55:48.440 chat who are, you know, considering she's going to be sleeping with seven other men. Okay. Next.

00:55:53.840 My most spontaneous thing I've done, download this app. Is there another one or go back to the

00:56:05.760 adventure one? Most. Oh, okay. We'll see the other ones. You should leave a comment if you want to

00:56:13.060 show me around town. Okay. Next. All right. Good. So go back to, yep. Wait, no, no, no. Go back to

00:56:19.880 dating me. Dating me is like going on a spontaneous adventure, but then go to that next prompt.

00:56:28.400 Yeah. No, the prompt going. No, no, no. Okay. Dating me is like going on a spontaneous adventure

00:56:35.400 and go to the next prompt. The most spontaneous thing she's ever done though is download a dating

00:56:43.280 app. So dating her, go back again one more time. So dating her is like going on a spontaneous

00:56:49.440 adventure, but the most spontaneous thing she's ever done is downloaded a dating app. This is

00:56:55.380 going to be a very dull affair, very dull adventure. Yeah. Right. When I think of adventure, I think

00:57:01.540 you're going to go somewhere. There's going to be a view, but you'll just download the dating app

00:57:08.000 with her. Anyways, that's my, I don't know. So what does it mean to the panel? Do y'all want a guy to

00:57:15.260 take you on an adventure? I hear this from women all the time. You want a guy to take you on an

00:57:19.460 adventure? What the fuck does that mean? I'm confused. I'm confused as a guy. What does it mean

00:57:26.100 starting with Macy? If you're inclined to have adventures? I mean, for me, I'm not very much of an

00:57:35.200 adventure person, but like if a person was to like plan out a whole day's event and like take me around

00:57:44.000 and like do stuff, I feel like that's kind of what she means when she says that. Okay. What about

00:57:50.840 you? Spontaneous to me, I guess that really just means like kind of last minute doing something

00:58:00.940 really just fun and kind of random that like the other person wouldn't really expect.

00:58:06.440 Okay. What about you? Miss, I get bored. It's super easy. I like to have them plan out the entire

00:58:16.020 day and have like 10 different things to do in that one day. Yeah. It's like a bunch of spontaneous

00:58:22.200 things in one day. Would you consider yourself more introverted or extroverted? I think I'm

00:58:28.700 introverted. Do you like to go out and do things or you prefer to stay at home? I love to go out and do

00:58:33.760 things. You like to go out and do things. Okay. Um, the guy who you were dating, the first one you

00:58:39.980 explained to us that was on again, off again, three times. You said he was boring, too sweet. Uh, what,

00:58:46.040 how often would you guys go out? Would you say and go out and do a date? Anytime I'm back at home.

00:58:52.920 So, Oh, was this long distance? Oh, you didn't tell us that. Oh yeah. So you're here and he lives,

00:59:00.040 you're from LA. So he's in LA. Oh, it's not too far then. Oh, okay. All right. Uh, what about you?

00:59:09.800 I think for me, I know spontaneous is just randomly at any time, but I think for me, it's when the guy

00:59:14.220 puts in the effort and the work to plan something on his own without me having to hint at it or him,

00:59:20.440 me telling him or sending all these random videos about what I want. It's just him putting the time,

00:59:24.700 not telling me about it, picking me up and we do whatever he wants or what he plans, I guess.

00:59:29.140 I can agree with that. Um, when a man is considerate and like he thinks of what you would

00:59:34.000 want, um, and then just plan the day, even if it's random. Yeah, I agree. Just like plan

00:59:41.340 date on a random day. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I kind of want to be involved in the process just

00:59:49.280 to like make sure we're doing something cool, but, um, I like being like spontaneous. So just

00:59:55.780 decide now and do it five minutes later. Also very last minute, but also like maybe something

01:00:04.200 out of my comfort zone, but also safe so that I know it's going to be fun, but I know that

01:00:09.040 I'm like, you know, like secure pretty much. I think guys don't want to have any sort of

01:00:16.580 failure or room for failure. So like what you were hinting at is she kind of wants to have

01:00:20.800 a say in what you're doing. So I think by a woman saying that she wants to be spontaneous,

01:00:26.460 she's hinting that she wants to just go do something out of the blue, but the guy is like,

01:00:31.120 how do I win at that? How do I make you happy? So I've learned that communication is important

01:00:36.240 there. Um, by adventure, probably doing something that you've never done, but you've expressed

01:00:42.620 interest in is probably the key there. So for men listening, here are the cheat codes is pay

01:00:48.660 attention to what she's hinting at those memes that she sends you on Instagram. Like that's,

01:00:54.400 you should take note of that. Um, and then I'll give an example of one that was really good for me.

01:00:59.780 My fiance bought us this package. It's called pack up and go, and they plan a whole vacation for you

01:01:05.960 and you open up an envelope the morning of, and they send you off somewhere. And like, that was an

01:01:10.800 awesome, spontaneous, and fun adventure. So win, win. All right. Cool. Uh, yeah, I still don't really

01:01:21.200 know what an adventure means, but I see it all the time. Well, at least when I was on the dating apps,

01:01:27.120 I would see it all the time. Take me on an adventure. Okay. Uh, oh, going around. Uh, have you

01:01:35.920 ever had a roster like multiple people dating multiple people? No, no. And by dating, I can

01:01:47.960 mean like casual, like anywhere from like, you're even just talking to them. Not like multiple boy.

01:01:54.920 I don't mean multiple boyfriends when I say like dating multiple people, no roster, no, nothing,

01:02:00.940 no roster. You don't got no, you don't got the main, no main hoe, no side hoes. No, no,

01:02:07.120 I can't. No bench. You don't have a bench. I mean, they're, they're there, but I don't

01:02:11.100 respond. They're on the bench. Okay. No. They're on the bench. They're staying on the bench. Yes.

01:02:15.380 Okay. So there's no, nothing, nothing right now. I know you want to get out of me, but no.

01:02:21.460 There's not one guy you have your eye on. Like sure, but like he doesn't, he doesn't want,

01:02:28.700 I don't have like multiple. You're asking, you're asking for a roster. I don't got one.

01:02:32.700 Okay. But is there, there's one guy currently in the picture, maybe sort of. Sort of, kind

01:02:37.520 of. Yeah. Single for one year, but kind of like, there's a guy sort of. Sort of, kind

01:02:42.580 of, could be. Kind of. Could be. In the works. Wait, did you say you've been celibate? Was

01:02:47.540 that you? Who said, was it you? Yeah, I was. Celibate for one year. Okay. All right. And are

01:02:52.960 any of you, those of you who go to school here in a fraternity, fraternity, sorority,

01:02:58.020 excuse me, any sorority, sorority, sorority, anybody? I'm in a frat. Which one? Like a

01:03:05.240 business frat. The business frat? A local frat. The what? A medical frat. Okay. But that's

01:03:11.180 not like typical Greek life anyways. Oh, you still like parties and stuff? Yeah. Into the

01:03:19.140 like. Yeah, it is. Okay. And it's, and you, but there's women and men in it, correct?

01:03:30.900 Yes. Okay. All right. Roster. What about you? Have you had a roster? I have. Currently

01:03:38.360 though, no. Currently though, no. How big was the biggest the roster's ever been?

01:03:46.420 Probably five guys. Five guys at the same time? Okay, cool. And, uh. Well, not like, oh,

01:03:51.860 okay. Well, at the same time. Not the same day. Not the same guy. Maybe not the same day.

01:03:56.340 Maybe not the same day. No, not the same day, not the same time, yeah. Maybe spread over a

01:04:00.240 couple days, a couple weeks. Someone takes you out Monday night. Someone takes you out Wednesday

01:04:04.780 night. Maybe someone takes you out Saturday night. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, just a little

01:04:09.940 rotation. A little rotation. And would you, but like, you would also be hooking up with

01:04:14.940 them too? Yeah. Some of them? Uh-huh. All of them? Uh, not all of them. Three? No. Maybe

01:04:21.580 like. Four. Two or three? Two or three. Okay. Yeah. It depends. Good times. All right. What

01:04:25.680 about you? No. Come on. You've had a roster. You've had a roster. You get too bored. I have

01:04:32.060 you get bored too easily. So you're, you're saying only one at a time. Exactly. You got

01:04:37.260 to stay loyal. What do you tell? Hold on. You got to stay loyal. This girl, you're

01:04:42.220 breaking up with this dude three times. You get back with him. Uh, you're bored. Every

01:04:47.920 three months. Exactly. Thank you, Sophia. If, if I recall the, like during the breaks

01:04:52.300 that you had with, uh, your guy in LA, you said you would see other men during the

01:04:57.880 breaks. Yes. Yeah. But you would only, you're saying you'd only see one,

01:05:02.060 guy. At a time. Yes. How long would those one guys last during the breaks? A

01:05:08.100 week? A month? A month? Two months? So it'd go like, it'd be like this sort of

01:05:12.600 long-term guy who's too sweet on again, off again, break up, date a guy for a

01:05:17.840 month, date another guy for a month, date another guy for the month, back with him

01:05:20.580 for three months, break up with him, another guy for a month, another guy for a

01:05:23.640 month, another guy for a month, break up with him, another guy for a month, like

01:05:27.080 kind of like that. Basically? Basically. Basically. Basically. Okay. Uh, and how

01:05:31.460 would you meet these guys typically? Dating apps, in person, your fraternity? In

01:05:36.220 person. In person? Do you go party? No. Where would you meet them? Anywhere. So you

01:05:43.400 would approach them or they would approach you? Both? Yeah. Through friends a lot. Through

01:05:50.540 friends, you'd get introduced. Okay. All right. What about you? I'm gonna say yes. Had

01:05:57.120 a roster? Okay. But only of two. Two. And it really was only when the guy I mentioned

01:06:02.580 of three years, he wasn't wanting to commit to me at that time, so I was just

01:06:07.420 like hanging out with one of his distant friends until he ended things with his

01:06:13.320 girl and then we got together. Okay. What about you? I've never had a roster. No

01:06:18.140 roster. Okay. Any roster? In my early 20s, yeah. In the 20s had a roster? Yeah. Okay.

01:06:23.160 How big was the roster? Uh, like no more than two. No more than two? Okay. I've never had

01:06:28.840 one. All right. No roster. Never roster? Never roster. Zero roster. Zero roster. What

01:06:35.640 about you? Um, I agree. In my early 20s, I think I, I had a, I wouldn't call it a roster,

01:06:41.100 um, but I would have like someone in a back pocket perhaps, but I would never like hook up

01:06:46.900 with someone and then like cross contaminate. So any, anybody who has like, there's just

01:06:53.800 a set, um, timeline for people and I've never like gone back to that one person. So I would

01:07:00.560 end things with that person physically. We, we wouldn't hook up again. I'd move on, find

01:07:06.340 a new person, but I would never hook up with that guy again, but I would kind of keep them

01:07:10.420 in my back pocket for attention perhaps. Um, this is in my early 20s, but.

01:07:17.740 Okay. Cool. Uh, I'm going to get into some of my pre-show notes here. So, uh, maybe we'll

01:07:24.060 touch on the roster thing a little bit later on, but so going to Macy, um, are your DMs

01:07:30.640 fucking wild?

01:07:33.320 Yeah, they're, they're pretty crazy.

01:07:35.320 Do you have like a top three messages you can tell us?

01:07:38.340 Well, there's like, like, like what kind of DMs are you looking for? The weird ones or

01:07:47.920 like nice ones?

01:07:49.920 Well, I'm wondering like if you just get, and I'm curious if it bothers you that people,

01:07:55.640 cause I, I've had tall friends and they're like, they tell me, oh, like everybody fucking

01:07:59.740 asked me if I play basketball. Like it gets annoying.

01:08:02.060 Do you have, do you have that experience? Like, does it bother you that people will make

01:08:06.460 comments about your height or you're just kind of used to it and it is what it is?

01:08:10.980 I'm used to it, but like, it's still, it can get annoying.

01:08:15.580 Can get annoying. Okay. And I mean, like when it comes to your DMs and stuff, do you get

01:08:19.580 DMs like that are height related?

01:08:22.000 Oh yeah. All the time.

01:08:23.720 Some crazy ones.

01:08:24.840 Some crazy sexual ones too.

01:08:27.200 Okay.

01:08:27.460 And it's like, why are you saying this to me? That makes me a little uncomfortable.

01:08:30.100 What, what's like, if you're, if you're at Liberty to share, what's like the, some crazy

01:08:34.140 ones, some crazy ones.

01:08:37.100 I mean, it's not really crazy, but like a lot of like really short men are like, can I

01:08:41.140 eat it standing up? Like, can you stand up and can I eat it? And I'm like, what the fuck

01:08:44.860 bro?

01:08:50.480 Standing up is crazy.

01:08:51.840 Is that possible? I guess.

01:08:56.600 I did ask my roommate about it and she did it once and she was like, it's a little uncomfortable,

01:09:01.220 but it's, you can do it.

01:09:03.360 You've done, you've tried it out.

01:09:05.440 I don't think I want to try it out.

01:09:06.980 Okay.

01:09:08.840 All right. Dang. What, so, okay. What other crazy ones have you gotten?

01:09:12.760 There are like people that are into like the giant test stuff and it's like, can you stomp

01:09:22.340 on me? Like, I want you to smush me, step on me, like smother me, that kind of stuff.

01:09:30.560 Yeah.

01:09:30.760 I get that a lot and it's, it's a little weird.

01:09:33.580 Is, is giant a compliment or is it insulting?

01:09:36.540 It's a compliment, but it's also like a fetish. Yeah. Yeah. But if like, if somebody calls

01:09:46.780 you like a giantess in like a non-sexual way, is that insulting or is it like a compliment?

01:09:51.980 I'll take it as a compliment.

01:09:53.760 Okay. Cause I can imagine like a really tall guy, if he got called like, you're a giant,

01:09:57.880 it could be, it could be compliment.

01:10:01.060 That's what most people say.

01:10:02.260 You get Amazon. Okay. Um, what's like, I don't know if you remember this,

01:10:06.540 do you have like worst pickup lines related to height besides the like, eat it standing

01:10:12.080 up thing? That's wild by the way. That's crazy.

01:10:16.320 I mean, that's crazy.

01:10:18.160 I feel like people never like try to do pickup lines. They're just like straight to the point.

01:10:23.040 Yeah. Okay. Hmm. Okay. Uh, the DMs must be crazy though. Any others that you can think

01:10:31.480 of or just the standing up one?

01:10:34.000 I mean, those are really the ones I get the most. I mean, I can look through my DMs, but

01:10:40.760 yeah, I clear them out regularly. So I don't see people like that.

01:10:45.000 Okay. Now you said in, uh, your pre-show notes that you said modern dating isn't even worth

01:10:50.020 it. So what are your, I guess, what are your thoughts there? Bad experiences or just, uh,

01:10:56.280 I've had some really bad experiences, um, especially through dating, uh, apps. Um, just like I'll tell

01:11:06.280 people, I'm like, Hey, I am like, I'm really nervous and like, I don't do a lot of physical

01:11:13.600 touch. So if we like meet up, you just know that it's just going to be like a conversation.

01:11:19.040 Yeah. It's going to happen. And then that's where men mostly test my boundaries. I've had

01:11:28.320 one guy, like we were supposed to go out to eat lunch and then he was like, Oh, I can't

01:11:35.520 do that. Do you want to just like come over and watch a movie? And I was like, that's all

01:11:39.800 sus. But sure. I'll give you the benefit of doubt. You seem like a nice person. I was

01:11:45.540 wrong. We start the movie and he does the little like reach over arm thing. Can you do

01:11:53.220 it? Demonstrate on her? One of those like this, not even like five minutes into the movie.

01:11:59.700 He's like trying to kiss me. And I tell him, no, I don't want to do that. I don't know who

01:12:05.320 you are. And when I, when I say, I don't know who you are. He then goes like, okay,

01:12:09.780 I was born here. I went to school here. Yada, yada. You know who I am now? And I'm like,

01:12:14.760 no, that's not how it works. And so I'm like, can we just, can we just watch the movie and

01:12:21.020 maybe like talk afterwards? Maybe another five to 10 minutes in the movie. He tries it

01:12:26.160 again. I tell him, Hey, you're making me uncomfortable. He's like, well, if you're so uncomfortable,

01:12:32.640 why don't you leave? So I got up and left. There you go. Good for you.

01:12:40.100 Good. Yeah.

01:12:43.560 Said you leave, you left. Yeah, that's probably, it didn't, it sounds like you didn't really take

01:12:51.000 a hint though. You know, you just kind of, yeah. Yeah. It's always uncomfortable in those

01:12:55.360 situations. Uh, well, sorry, sorry to hear that. Definitely awkward. Uh, and then anyways,

01:13:03.040 moving on from that, you said that, uh, and you, you also do OF, um, what kind of, uh, content are

01:13:12.180 you doing on there? Is it like tasteful stuff or like full blown, you know, I kind of do a

01:13:19.220 little bit of everything now, but I'm trying to like wean off of only fans cause I want to go to

01:13:25.800 college and actually get a degree. Sure. Is your girlfriend involved with the, like, do you guys?

01:13:31.960 No. It's just like solo. Yeah. It's just solo. Okay. I have a video with an ex partner and that's,

01:13:39.360 that's about as deep as it goes. Okay. Got it. You also said you do dick ratings

01:13:45.360 on your OF, on your OF you do, um, is it in like, do you do it in inches or centimeters?

01:13:55.780 Sorry. That was a bad joke. I mean, they just send me a photo of their penis and I look at it and

01:14:04.540 I'm like, well, I usually rate it on like the color, the color, the texture, tech texture,

01:14:11.780 how big it is, how worthy it is. Yeah. You know, got to cover all of that. Okay. But there's a,

01:14:20.240 there's. And are you, do you try to be pretty reasonable with the ratings though? Or sometimes

01:14:24.340 I like to be really mean. Oh, oh. So it's like degradation. Yeah. You do. Okay. Cause

01:14:31.220 it's just a lot of dicks and I, I'm not really a lot of dicks. I'm not really into that anymore,

01:14:40.480 really. So it's like, I'm just going to like roast the fuck out of these men and they're

01:14:45.240 going to pay me for it. There you go. What's the highest dick rating? Like, is it a one out

01:14:51.120 of 10 or is it like a review? So either I'll do like a one out of 10 or I'll just be like,

01:14:57.040 why the fuck is your penis so textured? Like do you have herpes or some shit? Damn. You know?

01:15:02.460 How much do they pay you? That's crazy. Earlier on when I was doing OnlyFans, it was like $35,

01:15:10.620 but now I only do it for 15. Okay. Oh. Good times. Is there like a discount code going on right

01:15:17.920 now for anybody who wants? No. No. Sorry. No. Okay. All right. Sorry, boys. Sorry guys in the chat

01:15:23.540 if you want to have your pee pee degraded. Um, all right. Uh, going to, uh, let's go to

01:15:31.680 Kalani. Kalani? Kalani. Kalani. Yes. Uh, let's see. You said, it's pretty complicated right

01:15:40.980 now. Oh wait. This guy I was with for nine months tried kissing my new roommates at the

01:15:44.760 time and turned out he had a girlfriend the whole time. Was that the Muslim guy? No. Oh,

01:15:49.900 somebody else. This is like previous, three years ago. Yeah. Okay. Was there a story there?

01:15:58.960 Um, yeah, we were together for like nine months and I didn't know he had a girlfriend and she

01:16:04.900 called me when I was going to the pool and I was like, Oh, spam call. So I answered. I'm

01:16:10.800 like, hello. And she's like, Hey, is this K? I'm like, who's asking? She's like, Oh, how

01:16:18.140 do you know? So-and-so? I'm like, what do you mean? And she was like, that's my boyfriend. I was

01:16:22.520 like, yikes. That sucks. Can I have you just tilt your mic down a little bit? Perfect. So,

01:16:31.460 okay. And then also in your notes, you said you want to talk about Christianity or talk about or

01:16:37.160 talk about why women can't just bring a personality to the table and they need to be traditional women

01:16:43.240 if they want a traditional man. Yeah. Uh, so I, what do you mean by that? I was a little

01:16:47.920 confused. I mean, if you want a traditional man, you kind of got to be a traditional woman.

01:16:53.400 That's fair. That's fair. Okay. So your position is they, women can't just bring a personality.

01:16:59.660 I mean, they can if they don't want a traditional man. Right. Okay. All right. And you said,

01:17:05.980 I used to have a hard time understanding this until my brother broke down for me. And it's like

01:17:10.220 this. We as women are sticky notes. And if you keep sticking a sticky note everywhere,

01:17:14.720 the sticky note loses its value and no one wants a sticky. If it needs some tape, we as women can't

01:17:22.180 expect it to be the prize. If we have lost our stickiness, there's no need for a sticky that

01:17:26.460 doesn't stick when you can't get a fresh new sticky note that does stick. There you go.

01:17:32.200 That's a good way to put it. Okay. No, that's sticking everywhere. That's so that's what you said.

01:17:37.720 And so you said that. So is this related to like body count? Is that what it's related

01:17:43.380 to? I mean, I'm not one to shame women who have a high body count, but you're not. You

01:17:48.920 can if you want to. Oh my gosh. I'm not gonna. If you want to, you can do it. No, I don't

01:17:54.540 feel like doing that. But yeah. But so the sticky note thing, it's basically the more bodies

01:17:59.180 you have, the less you can stick onto a new partner. I mean, you're basically having sex with

01:18:05.180 all those people they had sex with. And I see you kind of shaking your head and you

01:18:09.280 agree, you disagree. So I'm not like a church goer anymore, but I, yeah, no, it was taught

01:18:16.220 to us the same way where, except for us, it was like a rose or a piece of chewed gum. They

01:18:21.500 were like, you take this flower, you crumple it up. You can't fucking put it back together

01:18:24.520 again. It's ruined. You're done. Oh, okay. Yeah. But so do you, do you agree with that sentiment

01:18:30.680 or disagree? I think I agree with the sentiment of if you want a traditional man, I don't

01:18:37.180 think you necessarily have to be traditional to get a traditional man, but I think it, you

01:18:43.500 are definitely more likely to get a traditional man if you are a traditional woman. Do you

01:18:48.640 think? And I think it is a bit, yes, hypocritical. If you're going to say you want a traditional

01:18:52.120 man, but not be a traditional woman. So I'm going to open this up to the whole panel, going

01:18:56.560 around the table, when it comes to the sticky note thing, do you agree with this? Do you

01:19:01.400 disagree when it comes to the more partners you've had? You tend to stick less to the next

01:19:09.220 partner, starting with Macy. Go ahead. I mean, if you want a traditional husband, yes, but

01:19:15.680 like anyone else, I disagree with that. Well, I think for this one, we, we remove the traditional

01:19:21.900 component to it. Then I don't agree. Okay. What do you think? Into the mic. I don't know.

01:19:30.760 I don't really have a firm opinion on that. No firm opinion? Yeah. Like me personally, I

01:19:36.900 guess I'd lean more towards that idea. Like I wouldn't, that's one of the reasons why I

01:19:41.960 don't date like anybody, anywhere, anytime. Are you selective with who you? I am very selective.

01:19:47.400 Yeah. Okay. Um, but I don't think it's a bad thing if other people disagree. What about

01:19:55.400 you? Um, I mean, I don't, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, but I think you should

01:20:03.980 be realistic about if that is the path you're going to take, who then may or may not be available

01:20:12.940 to you because that was the path that you chose to take. I think that's totally valid

01:20:17.500 for everyone to be like, Oh yeah, like you may have a lot of bodies, so I don't really

01:20:20.820 want to be another one of those. But I think also if you can't take the time to look past

01:20:27.100 someone's past and then sit down and say, okay, well, why were you the way that you were?

01:20:31.940 I think that's also just a bit immature of you. And that tells me that you can't look past

01:20:36.800 the past. I think everybody should be forgiven again. Again, it goes back to the traditional

01:20:43.440 thing. If you want a traditional man, a traditional man should be able to forgive you and then change

01:20:47.760 you and lift you up. Okay. Well, how do you feel Brian? Because I mean, let's say you met

01:20:54.780 a girl who wasn't necessarily traditional, but you loved her enough and she was willing enough to then

01:21:00.120 go to church, go the traditional path. People do that. People are technically rebirthed or

01:21:06.700 whatever. Like Nala Ray. Oh, oh.

01:21:13.340 You know that girl? I don't know her, but I've seen her on TikTok quite a bit.

01:21:17.000 The girl with red hair. Yeah, we've had her on the show. I know, that's the only reason why I know her.

01:21:23.840 Nala Ray, you think she's...

01:21:26.040 She changed. She can be... I think it's definitely... She changed for her man too.

01:21:30.400 I think it is so, so critical for people to think and believe that people are subject to change.

01:21:36.800 Like yes, someone can have an event in their life. Yeah, you can change. Turn around and change

01:21:40.320 everything. Well, you can change, but men are not obliged to then disregard your history and baggage

01:21:47.180 and date you. That goes back to what I was saying with, yeah, if they say that they don't want to date

01:21:50.860 you because you have too many bodies and don't want to be another body, yeah, that's fine. You can't

01:21:54.960 really be heard about that because that was the path you chose to take. Yeah, true. What about you?

01:22:00.860 What do you think? Sticky note thing. I agree. You agree? But to an extent. To an extent. What is

01:22:08.620 the extent to which you agree? I think it goes for both, like it goes for both ways, right? You don't

01:22:14.500 want your man to be a whore either. Yeah. You don't want your what? You don't want your man to be a whore

01:22:19.940 either. Oh, I'm sorry. I can't hear one more time. A whore. A whore. A whore. A whore. You don't want him to

01:22:25.840 be a whore. Yeah. Okay. So it goes for both ways. You would not date a whore. A man whore. Never. You would

01:22:32.960 not date a man whore. Never. Never. So if a guy revealed to you, I have a body count of 20, is that

01:22:40.600 too high for you? Way too high. What about 10? Way too high. No, fuck. Come on. Really? Way too high.

01:22:48.500 Too high? What's your body count? Zero. Shut. No. Come on. It's a zero. It's a zero. Yeah. It's a zero.

01:22:58.420 I'm confused. I'm so confused. It's a zero. Can you stop playing the music?

01:23:10.600 It's a zero. It's so mysterious. Okay. Okay. Zero? Zero. Maybe that's why you get bored.

01:23:20.860 You're not fucking. Exactly. That's why you get bored. You ain't having sex. Exactly.

01:23:27.340 What else is there to do? I'm kidding. But actually, what else are you going to do? Wait,

01:23:35.260 for real though? You're a V card? Yes. Virgin. Okay. Still a flower. Yes. Have you, I mean,

01:23:42.100 have you, have you, I mean, like, are you waiting until marriage or what's the story here?

01:23:49.820 Yes. Good child of God. Good story.

01:23:53.600 Stop the cap.

01:24:01.320 I don't, are you, so you're religious? I'm Christian. Yes. What's a nomination?

01:24:09.240 Oh, Presbyterian. Okay. And you've been, like, your parents are religious too? Very much.

01:24:15.860 And you go to church? Yes. Is there a church here? Not here. There's not a Presbyterian church here?

01:24:22.080 Oh, no. The churches here are kind of culty. I've been to some. They're culty. Okay. Presbyterian. Huh.

01:24:28.080 So you are waiting for marriage? No. Wait, what? I was just kidding about that. No. About? You're

01:24:36.640 kidding about what? Waiting for marriage. Not waiting for marriage. Are you, but are you a virgin?

01:24:42.620 Yes. Well, so what are you kidding about and what's, I mean. I am. I have a body count of zero. I'm not

01:24:49.400 waiting till marriage. Okay. So you're waiting for the right guy. Yes. But you've dated multiple men

01:24:58.160 and none of them were the right guy? No. The guy you dated, was he a Christian? The two guys that you

01:25:05.920 had, like, a year-ish? I have no clue. What? How would you not know?

01:25:11.720 I don't ask about religion. Is it important? Is it important for you, for your partner to

01:25:18.080 be Christian? It is. But unless it's, like, serious, I don't want to ask. And it's never

01:25:27.500 been that serious. But you want something serious, don't you? Not yet. But if, okay. I'm just

01:25:38.180 confused. So you don't want something serious, but you also, you're not engaging in casual

01:25:46.460 sex. You do want, you don't want to wait until marriage, but whoever you do have sex with,

01:25:52.880 you want this to be, like, the right guy, I'm assuming. Yes. Could the right guy, like,

01:25:59.700 could you have sex with the guy on the first date if he's the right guy? No. So you would

01:26:03.940 have to be in, like, a relationship? A legit relationship, yes. Okay. But you're avoiding

01:26:09.020 a legit relationship through your conduct? Yeah. Okay. I mean, but, like, you said you

01:26:20.160 get bored very easily. So how, I mean, this, it occurs to me, given what you've disclosed

01:26:28.820 so far, that this is, I'm not saying this to be insulting, is probably a defect on you

01:26:32.980 as opposed to the men that you're dating. Probably.

01:26:37.240 And it's not necessarily, perhaps, an innate defect, but, I mean, to be dumping someone because

01:26:45.040 you're bored, but then getting back with them because you're bored, and then, uh, it's a

01:26:51.300 bit, uh, it's not conducive to procuring a long-term serious relationship. If your primary,

01:26:59.040 like, what's the primary thing you're looking for? Excitement?

01:27:03.160 I don't know. I'm young once. I'm doing what everyone else is doing.

01:27:07.660 Well, no, well, you aren't, because, I mean, everybody else is just having casual sex.

01:27:10.980 Yeah. Well, on one hand, you are kind of casually dating, but you're not having casual

01:27:20.640 sex. I suppose that's better than if you were just having casual sex. But it's, you're,

01:27:27.400 you're getting the same experience, but without...

01:27:31.940 Without the sex, exactly.

01:27:34.220 The attention.

01:27:35.460 The attention.

01:27:36.520 Exactly.

01:27:37.040 I'm just confused what, like, I mean, what, what are the guys looking for?

01:27:45.040 I don't know. I never asked. I never got that serious.

01:27:50.060 I feel like you like the attention, you just don't like the commitment.

01:27:53.240 Because you're not ready for it.

01:27:54.460 Yes.

01:27:54.920 But here's where I'm confused. So, most guys who would be inclined to casually date,

01:27:59.920 sex is going to be a component of that for most men. You disagree?

01:28:04.020 I, yeah, I disagree. I, I, well, for me, sex isn't, like, a big thing in a relationship.

01:28:12.120 It's not? Well, for you or in general?

01:28:16.020 For me.

01:28:16.920 Okay.

01:28:17.340 Just personally.

01:28:17.820 But what about for other, what about for other people?

01:28:19.540 Well, like, if I'm going to, like, casually date, I would definitely talk about it with

01:28:28.400 the person I'm going to date. But, like, for me, I, I don't participate in the hookup culture.

01:28:35.800 Sure.

01:28:36.000 I am really weird about having sex. So, I understand where she's coming from. You know, you don't

01:28:44.280 need to be, have a sexual relationship to have a relationship.

01:28:47.780 No, you don't, you don't need it. I don't have really any objections to what she's actually

01:28:52.040 doing. I'm just kind of confused because if a guy is inclined to, to wait because she

01:28:59.580 wants to wait for sex, it seems like it would be a mismatch on the guy's part to casually

01:29:05.540 date her. But there's no, there's a total lack of sex. That's, I mean, look, there's asexual

01:29:11.320 people. There's people with really low sex drives. But is that you? Are you asexual?

01:29:16.280 No.

01:29:19.300 What? But, I mean, you guys are friends. You chuckle at each other.

01:29:23.880 It's me, bro. It's me.

01:29:25.960 Oh, you're, you're the asexual one? Or low sex drive?

01:29:29.280 I just, yeah.

01:29:30.500 Like, that's always been the case?

01:29:32.720 Yeah.

01:29:33.920 Okay.

01:29:34.320 Yeah. That's why I understand where she's coming from.

01:29:36.640 So, like, when you say low sex drive, what does that mean?

01:29:38.700 Like, the guy I was with for five years, we never, mm-mm.

01:29:41.740 Wait, hold on.

01:29:42.520 Yeah?

01:29:42.880 Hold on.

01:29:43.400 Wait, wait.

01:29:49.060 The guy you were dating for five years, you guys never had carnal knowledge.

01:29:53.860 We didn't do it.

01:29:54.460 No carnal knowledge.

01:29:55.360 Are you also virgin?

01:29:57.060 Yeah.

01:29:59.280 This is why we're best friends.

01:30:00.200 Stop the cap.

01:30:01.100 Wait, are you also virgin?

01:30:02.240 No.

01:30:02.880 Okay.

01:30:03.440 Any other virgins?

01:30:04.580 Any virgins?

01:30:05.760 Virgins at the table?

01:30:06.820 No fucking way.

01:30:07.600 There's no way.

01:30:08.480 This is why we're all friends.

01:30:10.060 The trifecta, the trifecta of virgins are, hold on.

01:30:15.520 Lewandowski for the hat trick!

01:30:16.980 Somehow he's put it in!

01:30:18.960 Oh, my word, this is one of Lewandowski's finest performances.

01:30:23.500 It's a hat, a virgin hat trick.

01:30:25.060 Okay.

01:30:25.400 That's crazy.

01:30:27.480 I don't, do you guys believe this?

01:30:29.540 Do you guys believe this?

01:30:30.860 Yeah.

01:30:31.360 I do.

01:30:31.940 I do.

01:30:32.700 Yeah.

01:30:32.920 I do.

01:30:33.540 I do.

01:30:33.760 Okay.

01:30:33.980 Are you, are you, are you religious?

01:30:40.900 Um, yeah.

01:30:42.120 Uh, Christian?

01:30:43.240 Yeah, I would say Christian.

01:30:44.840 Presbyterian?

01:30:44.980 I'm like, I'm kind of, I'm kind of like, I believe in God, but I'm not, I don't have

01:30:48.900 a firm stance.

01:30:49.980 Yeah.

01:30:50.220 And then you, also?

01:30:51.680 I am Christian, yes.

01:30:52.740 Oh.

01:30:54.000 So, yeah.

01:30:55.240 Okay, it's a little more believable.

01:30:57.760 It might be worth noting we'd go off the street, too.

01:31:01.020 Oh, my, that's true.

01:31:02.440 The mean streets of Santa Barbara.

01:31:04.440 Got me off the streets.

01:31:05.280 Got them off the streets.

01:31:06.680 You go off the streets.

01:31:07.660 They were walking the streets.

01:31:09.600 Okay.

01:31:09.740 Um, well, I don't know how that would, it wasn't, well, no, I mean, um, okay, cool.

01:31:17.000 So, uh, five years?

01:31:21.880 Yeah.

01:31:22.180 Was, like, was he trying to smash, or you guys were just kind of in this asexual?

01:31:26.580 He had, like, asked me about my opinion on it, and I was like, yeah, no, I'm chill.

01:31:30.860 He, wait, he asked you on your opinion?

01:31:32.560 Yeah, he, or, like, he asked me.

01:31:33.240 He sat me down one night.

01:31:34.540 My dear, what are your thoughts and feelings and opinions on the chances of us having sexual

01:31:41.440 intercourse tonight?

01:31:42.360 Well, yeah, that is what happened.

01:31:44.100 Not tonight, but.

01:31:45.080 Verbatim.

01:31:45.480 That's what he said, verbatim.

01:31:46.880 We had the conversation.

01:31:48.520 Yes.

01:31:49.100 Yeah.

01:31:49.660 And how did, so how did it go?

01:31:51.420 It went fine.

01:31:52.320 Was, did he put, was there a PowerPoint presentation?

01:31:55.100 No.

01:31:55.620 These are the reasons why we should have sex.

01:31:59.660 Exhibit A, exhibit B, exhibit C.

01:32:02.540 No.

01:32:02.940 It was a very casual conversation.

01:32:04.920 And what did you say?

01:32:05.800 You were just like, he, like, he, how long did he talk for?

01:32:10.100 Like, he asked the question for, like, 30 seconds.

01:32:13.560 And then were you just like, nah?

01:32:16.680 Yeah, I was like, no, I'm chill.

01:32:19.000 Like, I'm not interested.

01:32:20.740 Yeah.

01:32:21.300 Okay.

01:32:21.760 Are you waiting for marriage?

01:32:22.760 Originally, yeah, I wanted to wait for marriage.

01:32:24.340 You wanted to wait for marriage?

01:32:25.340 Yeah.

01:32:26.460 Well, you still are.

01:32:27.840 Yeah.

01:32:28.540 I'm still on that path.

01:32:29.720 Okay.

01:32:30.120 And then you, waiting for marriage?

01:32:31.640 Yes, waiting for marriage.

01:32:32.820 Okay.

01:32:33.400 All right.

01:32:33.880 There you go.

01:32:35.160 All right.

01:32:35.500 Wholesome group here.

01:32:36.380 Kind of.

01:32:37.680 Kind of.

01:32:38.460 Kind of.

01:32:40.780 Anyways.

01:32:42.420 Okay.

01:32:42.780 Good to know.

01:32:43.780 That changes a lot of things.

01:32:46.000 So, did not know that.

01:32:49.300 What were we talking about?

01:32:50.380 Sticky notes.

01:32:51.020 Sticky note.

01:32:51.980 Yeah.

01:32:52.160 Sticky note.

01:32:53.280 Your turn.

01:32:54.480 Okay.

01:32:55.060 I think I'm 50-50 on it.

01:32:56.740 I think it really just depends on the guy.

01:32:58.500 It depends on the situation.

01:32:59.560 If you are looking, again, for somebody that has the same values as you, then maybe you might

01:33:05.680 want to choose ahead of time not to live that life.

01:33:07.640 But you can also find a man that says and believes that your past was your past and to

01:33:12.780 keep it as that and to be loyal and faithful to that singular person moving on.

01:33:16.360 And I relate to a lot of, like, what you had said a while ago in terms of if somebody truly

01:33:22.000 loves you, they will forgive you for your past and move on.

01:33:24.960 And I only know that because in my situation of three years, he held my past over my head.

01:33:29.700 And then when one month of us breaking up, he started dating another female that had the

01:33:35.360 very identical past as me but is doing everything that he refused to do with me.

01:33:40.060 So, he was able to forgive her but not me.

01:33:41.820 And that's just the type of person.

01:33:44.920 Huh.

01:33:46.100 Yeah.

01:33:47.960 What about you?

01:33:49.140 What do you mean?

01:33:51.220 Oh, yeah.

01:33:51.640 It was your take.

01:33:52.300 It was your take.

01:33:53.000 The sticky note thing.

01:33:53.660 Yeah.

01:33:53.980 Sticky note thing.

01:33:54.700 I agree with it.

01:33:55.760 I agree.

01:33:56.120 I think if someone has a past, it's their past.

01:34:00.500 So, I can't really change the past.

01:34:03.940 Mm-hmm.

01:34:04.400 What about you?

01:34:05.560 I mean, I think people can change.

01:34:07.820 Maybe they just haven't found the right one before.

01:34:09.960 But I think most of the time, they're not going to change and just carry on.

01:34:16.500 People can definitely change.

01:34:18.440 And I think you just have to have an open conversation with your partner and make sure

01:34:22.940 that you agree before committing to something.

01:34:25.880 Yeah.

01:34:26.000 I think it depends on the woman's stance on her past, if she's willing to be honest about

01:34:33.160 it or if she's going to try and ... What a lot of women try to do is double down and

01:34:37.560 defend their actions and act like they didn't do anything wrong.

01:34:41.380 And I find a big problem with that.

01:34:44.620 But if you're able to own up and admit that you made a mistake and you have a change of

01:34:49.120 perspective, there's something to be respected there.

01:34:51.960 Mm-hmm.

01:34:52.300 I want to kind of reframe the question a little bit.

01:34:56.360 So, let's say either a guy you were interested in dating, and this is assuming, I know some

01:35:02.480 of you guys are here are virgins, but let's assume you had a sexual history he wasn't satisfied

01:35:08.660 with, or you just vaguely heard about a guy who he refused to date a girl because, strictly

01:35:19.360 because, of her sexual past.

01:35:21.460 So, let's say she had a body count of 20.

01:35:24.040 Would you object to a guy on that basis alone, choosing not to date her, to reject her?

01:35:31.500 Would you object to that?

01:35:34.560 I'm a little confused by the question.

01:35:36.220 Okay.

01:35:36.600 Yeah.

01:35:36.840 So, question.

01:35:38.660 Either somebody, you can look at it from either somebody you're interested in, or you're just

01:35:44.200 hearing about this, a girlfriend of yours, or you just heard a news story about it, whatever

01:35:49.640 it is.

01:35:50.640 A guy refuses to date a woman, turns her down because she has a body count of 20.

01:35:57.660 She slept with 20 guys.

01:35:59.820 Do you object to him refusing to date her on that basis?

01:36:03.880 Is it wrong?

01:36:04.720 Is it wrong?

01:36:12.020 I feel like, because, like when, for me, I don't judge people based on, like, what they

01:36:21.460 do, who they do.

01:36:23.000 Like, I don't care.

01:36:23.840 So, I feel like it's a little wrong, but then again, it's personal opinion.

01:36:31.440 The guy can do whatever they want.

01:36:33.900 He can do it, but do you think he'd be, you think he's immature or it's not reasonable?

01:36:42.100 I think it's a little immature, yeah.

01:36:48.160 That you can't see a person past what they do sexually.

01:36:54.300 What about you?

01:36:55.500 No, I don't think it's wrong.

01:36:57.000 No objections?

01:36:57.740 What about you?

01:36:58.100 Um, I mean, if it were someone that I was interested in, I guess it really depends, like, interested

01:37:07.600 in seeing.

01:37:08.340 I guess it really depends.

01:37:09.040 I wouldn't turn them down just for the fact that they had a lot of people in their past,

01:37:12.580 but if they were still, like, hooking up with me and I was just one of the bitches on

01:37:16.140 their roster, and they were sitting here being like, oh, yeah, I want this with you, but

01:37:20.420 then not cutting off those other girls or cutting them off as soon as he said that, yeah,

01:37:26.600 no, good.

01:37:28.100 Okay.

01:37:28.820 What about you?

01:37:29.480 No objections.

01:37:30.640 No objections?

01:37:32.380 I don't think I have any objections.

01:37:33.980 I think it just depends on the guy's values and what he wants.

01:37:36.720 If he's okay with a female having a body count and that person has changed, then there should

01:37:41.940 be no issue with them dating, but if that's something he's not interested in, then he needs

01:37:45.020 to go find a lady that has not slept with many men.

01:37:48.640 No objections.

01:37:50.200 No objections.

01:37:51.900 Yeah, I think as long as he's polite about it, there's no problem saying that.

01:37:56.440 No objections.

01:37:57.160 Objections.

01:37:57.960 Also, no objections.

01:37:59.380 Okay.

01:38:00.380 All right.

01:38:02.300 Pretty, pretty much, almost consensus there.

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01:38:39.760 We're going to get into some of the other pre-show notes.

01:38:42.100 Let me get to, we did.

01:38:44.660 Can I add something to the last topic?

01:38:48.220 So when I, before my marriage, before I got with my husband, I was in a serious relationship

01:38:54.460 with a man who was a virgin.

01:38:58.400 And at the time, my body count was three.

01:39:02.200 And he actually told me after we had already been dating for like three years that he had

01:39:07.220 a problem with my body count.

01:39:08.640 And it changed our entire relationship.

01:39:11.560 We ended up breaking up because of it.

01:39:14.180 So, yeah.

01:39:15.300 It happens.

01:39:16.980 You guys were dating for ten, or sorry, three years?

01:39:19.680 Yeah, we were dating for three years.

01:39:21.240 And then he finally told me that he had a problem with my body count.

01:39:27.000 Good times.

01:39:28.320 Yeah.

01:39:28.440 It was like he was holding resentment the whole time, but he just wasn't being honest with

01:39:31.800 himself about it.

01:39:32.840 Yeah.

01:39:33.240 I think a lot of people do that.

01:39:34.320 They'll enter into a relationship thinking that they're okay with something.

01:39:37.340 And it's, it's, it's not just body count, right?

01:39:39.580 It could be someone's really into hiking and then the, the woman's like, oh yeah, I'm into

01:39:43.920 camping.

01:39:44.340 And like, you know, she'll lie about it because they like you up front and they want to get

01:39:48.840 you.

01:39:49.120 And then over time that resentment builds.

01:39:51.300 Yeah.

01:39:51.780 Sorry that happened to you.

01:39:52.980 Yeah.

01:39:53.160 And you said the body count was three?

01:39:55.240 Yeah.

01:39:56.460 Okay.

01:39:57.020 All right.

01:39:57.640 Nobody's safe out there.

01:39:58.780 No one's safe.

01:39:59.880 I have a question for you, Ms. Girl.

01:40:02.560 How?

01:40:02.800 You said in your like question or answer to the last question, how like if people came

01:40:10.600 and were honest and realized that it was a mistake, what if it wasn't a mistake that they

01:40:15.180 made?

01:40:16.100 What if they don't consider it a mistake?

01:40:17.920 Their past?

01:40:18.640 That's what I said.

01:40:19.480 Some people try to like, they'll double down on it and then they'll defend their past.

01:40:23.940 And if that's the route you want to go, then take that route.

01:40:29.480 But I just said someone can either defend their actions, feel justified in what they

01:40:34.980 did or feel remorse for what they did, repent, change their behavior.

01:40:42.100 Do you think it's okay to not take the repentance path?

01:40:47.100 I think that's up to the individual and what she chooses to do.

01:40:51.020 At the end of the day, you're responsible for your actions and you have to answer for

01:40:55.340 what you choose to do.

01:40:58.860 Did you have another question?

01:41:02.580 Sorry.

01:41:02.880 I like just, just got in here.

01:41:05.680 I guess we'll go around with a random question.

01:41:08.360 What is everyone's biggest red flag in a guy or in a girl, I guess, if you date girls?

01:41:17.540 Can I go first?

01:41:18.260 Yeah.

01:41:18.760 Lack of communication.

01:41:21.020 I was going to say more communication.

01:41:22.880 I feel like we should have different ones for everyone.

01:41:25.380 Oh.

01:41:25.780 So it's like, like obviously.

01:41:27.740 Good luck.

01:41:28.380 But.

01:41:29.160 Thanks.

01:41:33.760 I'll give you something different.

01:41:35.920 This is one I learned later on in life and that's difference in values is huge.

01:41:41.500 That actually, I learned that from my fiance.

01:41:44.420 That's huge.

01:41:45.380 If you can't agree on morals and values, you don't have anything.

01:41:48.900 Um, so that's a huge red flag.

01:41:51.320 I feel like not very many people understand that until later in life also because they

01:41:55.620 don't really know what their morals or values are yet.

01:41:58.120 Right.

01:41:58.620 Yeah.

01:41:58.840 I guess in their like 20s, I would say, but that's very valid.

01:42:02.880 Um, yeah, I think, um, in my early 20s, I was kind of loose on like my political views.

01:42:09.880 Um, I wasn't confident in who I was as a person.

01:42:13.260 So yeah, that, that made me just date different people and I was pretty impressionable as well.

01:42:20.160 Um, so I would kind of cater towards what their stance was, but I wasn't being true to myself.

01:42:27.360 And it just took maturity and growth to learn what was important to me, um, and then become secure in that and then demand that of someone else as well.

01:42:37.400 I really just think respect, respect for me, my time, my space and the relationship, respect for everything.

01:42:45.320 It's important for me.

01:42:46.360 I agree with that.

01:42:47.080 Mine's consideration.

01:42:48.520 Like, I want you to be considerate of me.

01:42:50.740 Um, like if you're out somewhere and obviously we're dating that you would know not to do something because it would make me feel a certain type of way.

01:43:00.040 So to like, in a way, selflessness.

01:43:04.780 Is there anything more like physical?

01:43:11.020 More physical, like an ick?

01:43:17.720 I wouldn't.

01:43:18.560 Physical turn offs?

01:43:19.680 Okay.

01:43:20.060 I know this probably sounds a little shallow, but I wouldn't want to date a guy who's shorter than me.

01:43:26.160 Oh, yeah.

01:43:27.180 I just, I don't want to look down on him, man.

01:43:30.420 How tall are you?

01:43:31.740 5'4".

01:43:32.460 So, okay.

01:43:33.200 It's not hard.

01:43:34.400 It's not hard.

01:43:36.460 Maisie, you had quite a reaction there.

01:43:39.660 Um, what are your, what are your thoughts there?

01:43:41.660 I mean, I've never really met anyone, like a man taller than me.

01:43:45.560 So I've always had to like deal with the fact that they're always going to be shorter than me.

01:43:50.540 Yeah.

01:43:50.880 So that was kind of surprising.

01:43:53.820 I'm sorry.

01:43:54.640 It's okay.

01:43:56.500 Word.

01:43:58.100 I have a question for Maisie.

01:43:59.280 How do you handle that?

01:44:00.620 Like, how do you deal with a guy being shorter than you?

01:44:03.760 Is it something that's ever like bugged you or no?

01:44:07.240 No, not really.

01:44:08.720 Um, it probably bugs them more than it bugs me.

01:44:12.780 I remember last year I dated a guy and we went on a date and we were holding hands and walking and I made a comment.

01:44:19.540 I was like, you look like my little toddler.

01:44:24.360 It really hurt his feelings and I, I meant it as a joke.

01:44:28.340 Like, he took it to heart.

01:44:29.980 He's like, never say that again.

01:44:31.920 Please.

01:44:34.920 Can I ask you a question?

01:44:36.220 It's okay if you don't answer.

01:44:37.420 Yeah.

01:44:37.580 Do you think that that experience with men has led you to want to date women?

01:44:43.920 Um, not really.

01:44:47.840 It's, it's been more of like the, the bad parts of having to date a man that have.

01:44:54.180 And what bad parts?

01:45:01.660 They're kind of scary.

01:45:03.620 I've had some really scary instances, instances with men.

01:45:09.880 And I knew ever since high school that I've like, liked other genders.

01:45:15.920 So, but it didn't take me until after high school to kind of like explore that.

01:45:24.860 I have a question on that though.

01:45:28.540 So, you're saying essentially you've had bad experiences with men.

01:45:33.640 Because of these bad experiences, you sort of have a prejudgment now towards all men or a bias essentially.

01:45:40.760 Yeah, I'll go there.

01:45:47.480 Now, let's add another identity factor to this.

01:45:52.100 Let's say these were all black men.

01:45:55.260 And you had a lot of experiences with, poor experiences with black men.

01:45:59.800 Or actually, let's just say black people.

01:46:02.640 Would it be racist to have a bias against all black people because of your poor experiences with some black people?

01:46:10.760 I've actually never had any experiences with black men.

01:46:16.480 But that's not my question.

01:46:17.600 I know.

01:46:18.320 But no, I wouldn't like, I wouldn't not date a whole race just because one person was bad to me.

01:46:28.980 You know?

01:46:29.960 Mm-hmm.

01:46:31.560 But couldn't the same apply then to gender?

01:46:36.940 Yeah, kind of.

01:46:40.760 I feel like yes and no.

01:46:43.980 Because, like, mmm.

01:46:47.780 That's mmm.

01:46:49.280 Yeah, it's mmm.

01:46:50.280 Because the way she put it was that she had repetitive bad experiences with men.

01:46:56.280 And I feel like as a collective, yes.

01:46:58.480 When you have shit experiences with one group of people, it's kind of the responsible thing to just sit back and say, okay, well, I'm just not going to interact with them anymore.

01:47:07.460 I mean, that doesn't say that you still have, like, that's not to say that every interaction is bad.

01:47:12.420 It's not to say that there won't be a good interaction in the future or that there can't be.

01:47:16.240 Sure.

01:47:16.660 But right now, it's just the wiser choice to take yourself out of that situation.

01:47:20.840 And I think it's totally valid for someone not to want to date a specific gender just because they've had repetitive bad experiences.

01:47:29.060 Well, even removing the dating component, it's kind of the general, the bias exists regardless of whether she wants to date the men or not.

01:47:37.300 So my question then would be, if you've had multiple bad experiences with somebody who's black, for example, can you then extend this sort of logical thinking in terms of your bias towards black people?

01:47:50.600 Well, because, okay, I would also never, well, because that's the thing is, like, some people don't find certain races attractive.

01:47:59.220 And I'm, like, they would never still be racist or bad towards that person of that race.

01:48:03.640 I think as long as you're still respecting everybody on a, like, good, humane, respectable level, it's fine.

01:48:09.580 I'm not saying anybody should be, I'm not, you don't have to be, you're not compelled to date anybody.

01:48:15.940 If you have a racial preference, I think that's totally fine.

01:48:19.320 I think that what I'm more so getting at is this, I guess, this bias against men, if applied to a racial group or a religious group or, you know, whatever, ethnic group or whatever it is.

01:48:30.500 I mean, yeah.

01:48:31.600 If you had poor experiences with Asian people, would it then be justified to have a bias against all Asian people?

01:48:41.920 No.

01:48:42.400 Because you've had poor experiences with an Asian person or some Asian people.

01:48:46.340 That's different.

01:48:46.900 That's completely different.

01:48:48.000 How's it different?

01:48:48.440 Because then you're seeing a whole group of people in that light in a different situation.

01:48:52.080 Dating and just real life situations are so completely different.

01:48:57.240 Dating bias is really completely different than just bias bias.

01:49:02.980 Because you can still have someone who's plain out just not attracted to that race.

01:49:06.880 Well, I think if my understanding is correct, the justification here.

01:49:09.560 Not everything like that has to be fueled by racism.

01:49:14.320 You can just say you don't find someone attractive.

01:49:16.540 Right.

01:49:16.800 But it's not clear to me if that's at least the case here with Macy.

01:49:19.340 I think, Macy, you said that you don't date men not because there's perhaps a lack of romantic or sexual interest, but precisely because you've had poor experiences with them.

01:49:31.040 And then there's also a corresponding bias that you have in general towards men.

01:49:36.340 Did I say white men?

01:49:37.200 I'm sorry.

01:49:37.480 Just men, men.

01:49:39.040 No, I think you just said men.

01:49:40.200 I think I said, yeah, just men.

01:49:41.420 Like, as of currently, I probably wouldn't, like, sorry, I wouldn't date men right now because I am low-key, very traumatized.

01:49:55.360 But that doesn't mean I wouldn't date them in the future.

01:49:58.680 I, I, it really depends on the personality of the person.

01:50:05.240 Sure.

01:50:06.500 Yeah.

01:50:07.380 But that's all I have to say.

01:50:10.220 Okay.

01:50:10.840 No, I'm just, I don't think there's actually anything wrong with if you, you have your orientation.

01:50:19.180 You said you're pansexual.

01:50:20.140 If you're more interested in dating women, I don't think there's anything wrong there.

01:50:24.660 I guess it's just the more, it's more so I'm trying to analyze the actual underlying bias here.

01:50:34.740 So, that's kind of what I'm getting at.

01:50:41.080 I, I, I don't know how to, like, explain it.

01:50:43.980 Well, I think a lot of women feel the way you feel.

01:50:46.060 And I think, actually, a very good segue is you get randomly dropped into a forest.

01:50:55.660 You can choose for a random man or a random bear to also be randomly dropped in a forest with you.

01:51:02.620 Oh, no.

01:51:03.560 So, so, hold on.

01:51:05.760 Let's get everybody's answers, starting with Macy.

01:51:07.720 Which do you pick?

01:51:08.900 I pick the bear.

01:51:09.900 The bear?

01:51:10.400 Okay.

01:51:10.780 What about you?

01:51:13.100 Probably the bear.

01:51:14.340 What about you?

01:51:15.000 I need to kill.

01:51:16.780 I mean.

01:51:17.860 Did you say they're cute?

01:51:20.280 Okay.

01:51:21.360 Well, they're sleeping.

01:51:22.640 There's a greater chance of the bear being cuter than the guy being cuter.

01:51:27.560 This isn't about attraction.

01:51:29.260 This is about survival.

01:51:32.140 So, she would date the bear.

01:51:33.920 She's going to date the bear, then.

01:51:35.140 I'm shocked.

01:51:36.220 What about, what about you?

01:51:38.960 I think I, I feel like this is such a hard one.

01:51:43.020 It's so easy.

01:51:44.160 Wait, wait, wait.

01:51:44.880 No, because for me, I feel like it's hard.

01:51:47.820 Because for me, I feel like it's hard.

01:51:50.640 I feel like, what if you just already know how to survive?

01:51:54.080 Like, what kind of bear is it?

01:51:55.080 Is it a brown bear?

01:51:55.900 A black bear?

01:51:56.500 Are we laying down and playing dead?

01:51:57.800 Random man.

01:51:58.720 Random man.

01:51:59.620 Random bear.

01:52:01.480 Could be brown.

01:52:02.100 Could be grizzly.

01:52:02.780 Could be polar bear.

01:52:04.140 Aw.

01:52:04.600 Those are so cute.

01:52:06.260 Not cute when they're trying to attack you.

01:52:07.660 Polar bear is guaranteed death.

01:52:09.400 Yeah, polar bear is like the most dangerous type of thing.

01:52:11.080 No, that's death.

01:52:11.760 You're dying.

01:52:12.060 Literally, you're dying.

01:52:13.340 Which do you pick?

01:52:15.600 Don't think about death.

01:52:17.320 Oh my god.

01:52:17.940 Don't think about death.

01:52:19.180 One, like, shoot.

01:52:21.920 Huh?

01:52:22.320 Bear.

01:52:23.040 Bear?

01:52:23.500 I'm going to say bear, because I think either way, you have chances of either the man or

01:52:28.260 the bear just leaving you the fuck alone, or getting attacked and killed, or possibly

01:52:33.340 worse.

01:52:34.100 Actually, there's really not much worse than getting attacked and killed.

01:52:37.520 Oh, there's worse.

01:52:39.240 Actually, yeah.

01:52:40.280 Yeah.

01:52:40.480 Okay.

01:52:41.380 There's worse.

01:52:42.280 Sure.

01:52:43.220 I'll grant to you.

01:52:43.720 Worse being the things they do up to you before death.

01:52:46.460 I will even grant.

01:52:47.940 Oh, yeah.

01:52:48.860 And then after death.

01:52:49.860 Yeah, so I would even grant to you that a malevolent human could conceivably come up

01:53:00.700 with some way that would be, your death or torture would be much more horrible than the,

01:53:06.000 even, you know, some bears, for example, they won't kill you right away, but they'll

01:53:09.980 start eating you.

01:53:11.260 So the death by the bear could be terrible, but I'll even grant that the worst death by

01:53:16.440 bear versus the worst death by human, or experience with a human, could conceivably be worse than

01:53:23.060 the death by the bear.

01:53:24.920 But even granting that, is it still bear?

01:53:29.200 I think it'd be still bear.

01:53:30.720 Into the mic, if you can, but.

01:53:32.320 Bear.

01:53:33.120 Bear?

01:53:34.020 In terms of survival, I'm going to choose.

01:53:35.840 Wait, hold on, hold on, sorry.

01:53:36.900 I think we missed you.

01:53:38.960 Go ahead, again, please.

01:53:40.760 Bear?

01:53:41.300 I'm choosing a man, in terms of survival.

01:53:44.040 Man?

01:53:44.560 Okay, what about you?

01:53:45.380 A man.

01:53:46.900 I actually had a man pop out of the woods at my job, and I'm, like, really grateful

01:53:51.240 that it was a man and not a bear, so.

01:53:53.080 Oh, there you go.

01:53:54.480 So, man.

01:53:55.180 Man, definitely.

01:53:56.640 Yeah, definitely man.

01:53:58.080 Gonna have to go with man.

01:53:59.740 Absolutely man.

01:54:01.200 Okay, so, those of you who said bear, I think it was you four here.

01:54:06.800 Why?

01:54:08.360 Starting with you.

01:54:09.440 If I was in the middle of the forest, and a bear or a man, like, suddenly appeared, I'd

01:54:16.300 be way scared, I would be way less scared if a bear, like, was in front of me.

01:54:21.480 You'd be less scared.

01:54:22.260 Yeah.

01:54:22.420 Have you ever been confronted by a bear?

01:54:25.620 No.

01:54:26.100 But I've also never been confronted by a man in the woods, so.

01:54:30.160 I don't think I could say anything.

01:54:31.220 You could just, like, bark at the man and act like a zombie or something, you know?

01:54:34.240 But if, like, you do that to a bear.

01:54:35.320 Wait, you could, what?

01:54:37.680 You could, like, you know, like, start acting like a zombie or something.

01:54:40.880 You said bark?

01:54:41.920 Yeah, or, like, act crazy.

01:54:42.680 Now that you've said that, you actually have to do it right now on the show.

01:54:46.060 I can do it, Javi.

01:54:47.080 I can do the Minecraft zombie noise.

01:54:48.740 Do it, do it, do it.

01:54:49.240 Okay, do it.

01:54:49.560 I can do the, ouch.

01:54:53.240 But if you do that to a bear, you might, like, you know, invite it to attack you.

01:54:57.960 Versus a man, you can kind of scare them off, maybe.

01:55:01.040 Okay, all right.

01:55:01.980 Okay, so you said why, because you'd be more scared of the man.

01:55:07.440 Okay, what about you?

01:55:09.260 I feel like I already said this, but, yeah, I just take my chances.

01:55:13.320 I feel like it's pretty, I don't know, it was a hard question for me,

01:55:18.220 because I feel like either way, if you just, like, you know, I don't know,

01:55:23.080 don't mess with it, it could not mess with you.

01:55:25.920 I feel like there's a chance of survival for both.

01:55:27.860 Definitely, it's less with the bear, but, I don't know, I think I'd rather take my chances with the bear.

01:55:32.980 At least that one's actually supposed to be in the forest, because it lives in the forest.

01:55:36.340 Well, so the scenario is, you randomly get dropped into the forest,

01:55:40.280 and then the man, like, a random man from the entire U.S. population also gets dropped into the forest.

01:55:46.880 So there's no motivation, why is he in the forest?

01:55:49.340 It's just randomly in the forest, but, okay.

01:55:53.640 Are we getting dropped in the same location?

01:55:55.860 You will come across either the man or the bear.

01:55:58.100 There's not, you're not going to be able to, like, hide.

01:56:01.460 He won't see you, like, he will see you, you will see him.

01:56:04.200 The bear will see you, you'll see the bear.

01:56:06.720 Damn, okay.

01:56:09.280 But you can run away, you can stand there, you can walk past, like, what you do is up to you, I guess.

01:56:15.100 I can play dead.

01:56:15.800 I can play dead, yeah.

01:56:18.920 Well, okay.

01:56:21.960 Okay.

01:56:22.820 Well, I can't outrun a bear.

01:56:25.280 So maybe I'll change my answer to a man.

01:56:29.020 But your original answer was bear.

01:56:30.680 Yeah.

01:56:31.940 But, but.

01:56:33.660 Well, maybe the bear leaves you alone.

01:56:35.640 Maybe the bear does nothing.

01:56:36.800 Yeah.

01:56:38.180 Yeah.

01:56:38.660 But so why did you pick the bear initially?

01:56:41.800 Um, I don't know.

01:56:44.500 I think just literally, because I like animals.

01:56:46.500 I know that's such a stupid answer, because my life is on the line.

01:56:49.040 But, like, I do like animals, so.

01:56:56.060 Well, I'll just grant that you do like animals, but in this situation that really, it's ultimately a question about your survival, right?

01:57:03.920 Yeah.

01:57:04.280 So your like or dislike for an animal is kind of irrelevant?

01:57:07.660 I feel like a random man could be more scary than a bear.

01:57:11.840 Like, bear have a, bears have a set nature.

01:57:15.340 Men don't.

01:57:16.460 And, like, what?

01:57:17.940 Don't.

01:57:19.620 It's true.

01:57:20.380 You never know what a man can do.

01:57:21.540 What's a man's?

01:57:22.020 You know what a bear can do.

01:57:22.900 What's a man's set nature?

01:57:24.300 They don't have one.

01:57:25.540 Men don't have a?

01:57:26.520 They don't have a set nature.

01:57:27.500 How many random men do you pass on the street every day?

01:57:30.980 Oh, like many, yeah.

01:57:32.540 Do they harm you?

01:57:33.640 No.

01:57:34.980 So they're predictable to some degree?

01:57:37.360 Um, yeah, I guess you could say, like.

01:57:39.880 Well, I mean, okay, so let's say, I mean, do you go party on DP?

01:57:44.580 I have before, yeah.

01:57:45.700 And you walk, I mean, they're fairly predictable in that none of them have ever walked up to you and, like, punched you in the face?

01:57:53.600 Yeah, they're fairly predictable.

01:57:55.000 Okay, so you can predict that.

01:57:56.040 But that's here, and if we're going into the wide scope of the whole world, you think of everything that's ever happened, there's nothing to say that it can't happen to you.

01:58:04.580 Yeah, sure, geographically, your risk could be higher in some geographies, but, I mean, I'll just simplify it.

01:58:10.060 Let's just say it's a forest in the U.S., and the man will be a U.S. citizen.

01:58:14.240 That still doesn't change anything.

01:58:16.120 There's still plenty of men who have done horrible things in the U.S.

01:58:18.500 Sure, yeah, there's plenty of horrible men who have done terrible things.

01:58:20.460 I would rather die honorably by a bear and have it eat me and, like, it be useful or something than die to, like, a man.

01:58:29.480 But remember, the scenario is not, you don't know for certain for either the man or the bear if they're going to be aggressive towards you.

01:58:36.860 They might.

01:58:37.760 Yeah, they might.

01:58:38.600 Both of them might, but both of them might not.

01:58:40.620 Yeah, but I feel like a man could do far worse than a bear can, like, eat me, like, I don't care, like, so, yeah.

01:58:49.900 A man could also eat you.

01:58:52.140 Cannibalism is a thing.

01:58:53.380 Sure, yeah.

01:58:54.480 And then, Macy, what about you?

01:58:56.460 I agree with her, but, like, I am, like, low-key, I have a fear of men.

01:59:03.320 Like, if I was alone with a man, I would be scared, so I would rather just be killed by a bear than, like, I don't know the intentions of a man, but, like, I would just rather be killed by a bear.

01:59:15.300 Okay, so you're scared of men.

01:59:16.880 Mm-hmm.

01:59:17.920 Are you scared of Nick?

01:59:19.760 No.

01:59:20.660 No, he's cool.

01:59:21.200 You guys seem chill.

01:59:22.000 Okay, all right.

01:59:22.860 Ulysses, the Pagan donated $200 by the ones that picked bear.

01:59:28.700 Do you realize is that if a bear got into you home and you called animal control or the police most likely men would arrive to save your stupid asses?

01:59:37.260 Hmm.

01:59:37.840 There's only one man in the four.

01:59:40.220 There's no police.

01:59:41.460 Well, police.

01:59:43.300 I've actually made this argument before, but, Pagan, thank you, man.

01:59:46.460 Appreciate the TTS.

01:59:47.320 Good to see you in the chat.

01:59:48.500 We also do have another chat here.

01:59:50.200 Dude1990, ladies, I would pick you over the bear 10 out of 10 times, even though a majority of you would pick the bear.

01:59:58.560 Wow.

01:59:59.480 Thank you.

01:59:59.680 Kind of a simp, but okay.

02:00:01.780 What a simp.

02:00:02.900 All right, thank you, though.

02:00:03.520 I appreciate it, man.

02:00:04.120 Thank you, thank you.

02:00:05.440 Actually, though, I mean, truthfully, though, it would be, at least from the male perspective, if it's random woman, random bear, yeah, the smart move would be to pick the woman, but I would pick the man, too.

02:00:16.920 Men are stronger.

02:00:17.740 And to be fair, man and man, like, if you, as a man, being in the forest with another man, that's less of a threat than, like, as a woman.

02:00:26.740 Why is that?

02:00:28.520 Really?

02:00:29.360 Okay.

02:00:30.400 Because men can physically overpower us.

02:00:34.060 Like, me, I'm, like, working on being a bodybuilder right now.

02:00:37.320 No matter how fucking strong I get, there's always going to be someone stronger who can just fucking pin me down and do whatever the hell they want.

02:00:43.280 Don't you want them on your side?

02:00:44.400 Yeah, but in a random forest, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be on my side.

02:00:51.020 This is a random scenario.

02:00:52.380 They could be on my side.

02:00:53.260 They could not be.

02:00:53.800 So, a bear is 100% guaranteed to not be on your side.

02:00:58.340 You realize that?

02:01:00.220 No, it could leave you alone.

02:01:02.180 It could leave you alone.

02:01:03.660 Most likely alone.

02:01:04.500 But it can smell you.

02:01:06.380 It can hunt you.

02:01:09.300 You're guaranteed to get hunted by a bear.

02:01:11.520 A random man, you're not 100% guaranteed to get hunted down by him.

02:01:15.320 And if two humans are working together, your chances of survival greatly increase.

02:01:22.540 You either come across the man or the bear.

02:01:24.540 Not both.

02:01:25.380 Wait, is it both?

02:01:26.300 No, it's one or the other.

02:01:27.300 It's one or the other, but you're in a survival situation in the middle of the woods.

02:01:33.760 Oh, I thought you were just, no, I thought it was a survival, like, against the man or the bear.

02:01:38.240 No.

02:01:39.000 Oh, it's just a survival, like, in the middle of the woods.

02:01:41.300 Who do you want on your team?

02:01:46.520 Yeah, we're talking about, like, you.

02:01:50.780 Push it back over there.

02:01:54.800 You kind of got freaked out by that spider there.

02:01:59.940 Are you going to, I mean, you're not going to be freaked out by a giant bear?

02:02:06.220 That's a good point.

02:02:07.060 Have any of you, like, been in contact with a bear?

02:02:12.900 I've seen them.

02:02:13.720 I've never in contact.

02:02:14.960 Yeah, they're, like, in the zoo or something.

02:02:17.420 I've seen them on the street.

02:02:18.620 It's pretty cool.

02:02:20.200 Thank you.

02:02:21.060 Like, I don't think we're fully dialed in on the dangers of a bear here.

02:02:25.940 I think modern conveniences have made people believe that they're just safe all the time.

02:02:30.820 They don't realize that bears will absolutely rip you apart.

02:02:33.540 A couple of women have died recently from bear attacks.

02:02:38.440 Yeah.

02:02:39.260 Yeah, so it's not totally safe.

02:02:42.140 I'm curious, though.

02:02:43.340 So, I mean, even if I grant even that there is, well, look, there certainly is, if it is a random man,

02:02:51.480 there is some potential for one of this randomly selected man to be a threat to you.

02:02:56.740 So, what percentage, though, do you think that that is, that you would be attacked by the man in this situation?

02:03:06.460 High.

02:03:07.880 High.

02:03:08.480 How high?

02:03:09.560 If you had to assign a percentage into the mic.

02:03:13.980 We'll start with you.

02:03:14.940 We'll go back that way.

02:03:17.920 More than 50%.

02:03:19.980 More than 50%.

02:03:21.200 Okay.

02:03:24.200 60%?

02:03:27.160 60%.

02:03:27.600 So, 60% would do what?

02:03:30.480 Murder you?

02:03:31.820 Either murder me, rape me.

02:03:33.140 Or try to, like, SAU?

02:03:34.560 Mm-hmm.

02:03:35.220 Well, what percentage would try to SAU?

02:03:40.760 60%?

02:03:43.560 Yes.

02:03:44.460 Okay.

02:03:44.720 I mean, like, obviously, okay, I totally misunderstood the question, but with men, I don't know, I'd say 50-50.

02:04:00.800 50-50?

02:04:01.620 Yeah.

02:04:02.280 50% chance of murder?

02:04:04.040 And that's just honestly because I've had my own personal experiences, and you, someone can lie to your face.

02:04:11.840 Like, I...

02:04:13.040 Sure.

02:04:13.500 I had someone harm me who had known me since I was 15, and then the second I was 18, he was just like, oh, yeah, give me that.

02:04:20.920 And then, well, there was nothing I could do about that.

02:04:24.940 So, 50%?

02:04:26.200 Yeah.

02:04:26.740 Murder chance?

02:04:27.600 Because you really never know who someone truly is.

02:04:31.220 Sure, yeah.

02:04:32.500 What about you?

02:04:36.500 Yeah, I'll go, like, 30%.

02:04:38.440 30% of the men would try to attack you.

02:04:43.500 In some way.

02:04:43.960 Okay, what about you?

02:04:45.040 I would say it's a 50-50.

02:04:46.600 50%.

02:04:47.320 Okay, so, I think it was 60, 50, 30, 50.

02:04:53.400 Okay.

02:04:53.760 So, the male population of the U.S. is 165 million.

02:05:02.020 If we do 60, I'll just, 60, that would be, well, 50% would be about 80 million.

02:05:10.120 Do you think, so, I mean, you said 60, 50-50.

02:05:14.080 For you two, do you genuinely think that 80 million men in the United States would be inclined to SA or murder you?

02:05:22.840 From the stats at UCSB, yes.

02:05:25.340 What are the stats at UCSB?

02:05:27.760 I don't know, but I remember it being high.

02:05:30.900 What are, you'd have to cite the, or at least say what the stat is.

02:05:37.540 Something like seven out of ten girls at UCSB.

02:05:42.420 Have been full-blown essayed.

02:05:44.520 Yes, in some kind of way.

02:05:46.320 Well, what, what is the definition of SA?

02:05:52.620 Either catcalled, either...

02:05:54.700 Catcalling is sexual assault.

02:05:56.260 No, no, no, no, no, no, just harassment in general.

02:05:58.440 No, you just, hold on, you just said catcalling.

02:06:00.400 While I'm not, while I think that's not appropriate behavior, how can that be sexual assault?

02:06:05.680 Okay, sorry, just any kind of harassment in general.

02:06:08.320 Well, I'm just going to take that that was included in the data.

02:06:12.100 How could you believe data that includes catcalling is sexual assault?

02:06:17.320 Harassment.

02:06:18.440 Just any kind of harassment.

02:06:18.800 Okay, fine.

02:06:19.620 I'll even grant you that catcalling is harassment, but it's not sexual assault.

02:06:26.680 I'm not saying it's...

02:06:27.660 I don't think catcalling is cool.

02:06:28.660 Other types of sexual assault include ass-grabbing.

02:06:32.700 Sure, yeah.

02:06:34.900 But you're saying the study cited includes catcalling.

02:06:39.640 No, that was part of harassment.

02:06:41.980 I just, like, morphed everything together.

02:06:43.600 So you said seven out of ten women at UCSB have been...

02:06:46.800 Something like that, yes.

02:06:49.800 Okay.

02:06:54.600 I mean, this is a study done by who?

02:06:57.400 Is it done by UCSB?

02:06:59.960 No, it was, yes.

02:07:01.860 It was some kind of program we had to finish before entering UCSB.

02:07:06.020 And I remember reading about...

02:07:07.400 What about the rates towards men, or do they only care about when women are sexually harassed?

02:07:13.920 I doubt they provide that.

02:07:16.400 They didn't provide that, but yes.

02:07:17.900 There's no information about the rate of harassment towards men.

02:07:21.620 No.

02:07:22.560 Interesting.

02:07:25.040 So, I'm trying to see.

02:07:26.900 Nick, were you able to find anything on that?

02:07:28.420 I can't find...

02:07:33.720 I can't find it.

02:07:34.980 70%.

02:07:35.700 By the...

02:07:41.620 In any case, it includes catcalling.

02:07:48.960 Okay.

02:07:49.900 Any type of harassment.

02:07:52.400 Okay.

02:07:52.780 But it includes catcalling.

02:07:57.100 So, what if the rate...

02:07:57.760 I honestly don't remember.

02:07:58.220 What if the rate of, like, actual SA was 5%, but it's incorporating this 70% of women get catcalled?

02:08:09.500 How could this ever be useful statistics?

02:08:13.880 Huh?

02:08:14.560 How could that be useful statistics?

02:08:16.920 If it's so broad that it includes catcalling?

02:08:20.440 Something women even do to men.

02:08:22.100 Catcalling, I just included.

02:08:23.400 But the three...

02:08:24.380 I wouldn't be surprised if the study did actually consider it included.

02:08:29.520 But the three top ones that did include were ass-grabbing at parties, especially.

02:08:34.600 Just unwanted touch, anything like that.

02:08:36.940 And rape, of course.

02:08:38.440 Yeah.

02:08:38.620 I say that word, but it's like I just use SA.

02:08:41.940 SA.

02:08:43.560 Okay.

02:08:44.080 And so, for this reason, because somebody at freshman orientation told you that 7 out of 10 women who go to UCSB have been or will be a victim of vague, vague SA, including, but not limited to, catcalling.

02:09:03.960 This is your basis for saying that 60% of men in the United States or 80 million men in the United States would be inclined to murder or SA women.

02:09:14.180 Even if we don't go with specific numbers, I'd say a higher population of men are more inclined to, like, hurting women in any way possible.

02:09:22.120 Yeah.

02:09:22.260 So, 60%.

02:09:23.120 Okay.

02:09:23.780 Yeah.

02:09:23.980 Let's go with that number.

02:09:25.200 Okay.

02:09:25.440 So, then, do you think, I mean, these are pretty high numbers.

02:09:28.660 I mean, there's something pretty defective here going on with men, then.

02:09:33.460 Well, if we go with, like, general statistics that everyone probably knows, whether that's from TikTok or any kind of social media that has, like.

02:09:40.580 Do you think TikTok is a reputable source of information?

02:09:43.220 No, I'm just sitting and saying just, like, any kind of, like, social media.

02:09:45.340 You're going to use TikTok when you go to med school?

02:09:48.020 Twitter, Instagram.

02:09:49.060 Twitter isn't, Twitter is not a reputable.

02:09:51.860 How about we use Department of Justice statistics?

02:09:53.980 And whatever is in the Department of Justice statistics, I'll grant you that that's the rate in which women are victimized in this specific way.

02:10:02.140 Or do you not believe the Department of Justice statistics?

02:10:04.400 And what is that?

02:10:05.940 It's a federal.

02:10:07.420 No, I'm saying what are the numbers there?

02:10:08.880 Oh, no, Nick, you can pull it up.

02:10:10.220 Rate of, I guess, the incidence of our word, department.

02:10:17.380 That also doesn't take into account any of the things that weren't reported.

02:10:20.640 Okay, but how do we, if we're going to, if we're going to cite two statistics, and if something wasn't reported, how do we have a conversation about that?

02:10:32.260 I mean, facts.

02:10:33.380 I mean, like, when it happened to me, I didn't report it because I was essentially told, oh, there's nothing you can do.

02:10:38.960 We can't do anything to him.

02:10:39.700 You went to the police?

02:10:40.660 Uh-huh.

02:10:41.040 And they essentially told me that there was nothing I could do.

02:10:44.700 Was there a kit done?

02:10:45.840 There was not a kit done, because it wasn't that kind of essay.

02:10:51.680 Okay.

02:10:52.340 Well, I don't know the details of it, but.

02:10:55.160 We can get into it, because it's tea, but we don't have to.

02:10:58.900 It's real tea.

02:10:59.880 Oh, it covers one of the other topics we weren't technically supposed to talk about.

02:11:05.700 Like you were underage or something?

02:11:08.480 I wasn't, but there were other girls involved who were.

02:11:11.040 Okay, all right.

02:11:14.720 In any case, though, your position, Nick, can you get this data?

02:11:20.520 Yeah, I was looking for the Department of Justice, but I'm doing, like, the Justice and FBI.

02:11:30.380 You could look at both.

02:11:31.880 There's Criminal Victimization 2022.

02:11:35.240 Oh, excuse me.

02:11:35.800 I think it's the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

02:11:39.140 Okay.

02:11:41.040 So, according to the Department of Justice, they say for rape, sexual assault, the rate per 1,000 is in 2018, 2.7, 2019, 1.7, 2020, 1.2, 2021, 1.2, 2022, 1.9 per 1,000.

02:12:11.040 So, what's the percentage there?

02:12:13.820 Is it less than 1%?

02:12:17.700 In a given year.

02:12:22.700 Do you have something from the FBI?

02:12:24.500 I had something from the Bureau of Stats, but it's in a different way.

02:12:29.040 If you want me to look up what you just have or pull it up, you should send it to private chat.

02:12:32.760 Okay, I'll send it via private chat just so we have a reference here.

02:12:39.280 Okay, I sent it to you.

02:12:42.120 I sent it to you.

02:12:43.160 It should be, it's the third page down.

02:12:46.460 Okay, thank you.

02:12:49.240 Ulysses, the Pagan donated $200.

02:12:52.560 Brought to you by Fourth Wave Feminism, indoctrination and brainwashing young impressionable girls into thinking all men are predators.

02:13:00.580 This is why McToy is a thing.

02:13:03.100 Congratulations.

02:13:03.540 Congratulations.

02:13:04.680 All right, thank you, Pagan.

02:13:05.600 Appreciate the TTS.

02:13:06.460 Do you have it, Nick?

02:13:07.240 Maybe.

02:13:08.620 All right, one sec.

02:13:10.600 Can I say something?

02:13:12.000 Sure.

02:13:12.240 I think regardless of what these statistics are, I think the reason, like, even though my number isn't as high as her number, I think the reason that is is because although you might think TikTok, like, yes, people can say false things and it might be fake.

02:13:27.480 A lot of stuff on social media is fake.

02:13:29.740 But on TikTok, on social media platforms, that's where we hear most of our news.

02:13:34.440 That's where we hear about everybody's experiences.

02:13:37.180 And because we're on it, we're exposed to that.

02:13:40.100 And regardless of what the statistic is, it's real.

02:13:43.560 And I don't agree with the saying that all men are bad.

02:13:46.220 I genuinely don't.

02:13:47.240 I don't think that at all.

02:13:48.240 I've met plenty of, like, amazing men in my life.

02:13:51.100 And I wouldn't be where I am today without them.

02:13:53.520 But it is, I think, the reason why in our heads, like, it's preferable to choose this bear is because there is a chance and it's real.

02:14:04.440 Regardless of what the statistic is, it's possible.

02:14:07.260 And in my opinion.

02:14:08.380 Yeah, there's a chance.

02:14:09.200 Yeah, and in my opinion, I would blatantly rather die by a bear than by a man.

02:14:15.040 Like, I would prefer that death over one by a man.

02:14:18.440 Right, but it's sort of a question.

02:14:19.260 And that's with me saying that I'm not afraid of men.

02:14:21.680 But you're assuming the man's going to kill you is the problem.

02:14:25.420 Just the same way I could assume that the bear is going to kill me too.

02:14:28.500 Right, so you're equating the chances of death the same between both parties.

02:14:32.780 And that's what this comment was just alluding to is that that's the issue with feminism and social programming that's happening to young women is we're being told that men are inherently dangerous.

02:14:43.840 I don't think all men are dangerous, but it's possible.

02:14:46.600 Well, you think there's enough?

02:14:47.460 If you ask me the same question, would I rather be, like, a bear or a woman?

02:14:51.620 My answer would still stay with a bear.

02:14:56.020 Really?

02:14:56.980 People?

02:14:57.620 People in general.

02:14:59.320 You can't trust people.

02:15:00.760 You don't know people.

02:15:01.560 But if it's just two people or whether a bear, one person, one bear in a forest alone to survive, why would you not choose somebody else that could help you survive, help you build, hunt, fish, search for things?

02:15:13.600 Because you just don't know what their intentions are.

02:15:16.600 You're right, but more than likely they're coming in with that mindset of, oh, we are here to survive.

02:15:20.980 I'm with one other person.

02:15:21.780 We're going to work together as a team.

02:15:23.000 We're going to do this together.

02:15:24.400 Biologically, we're wired to gravitate towards those who look like us.

02:15:28.620 Yeah.

02:15:28.780 Right, so if you see a familiar human being, you're going to gravitate towards that person for help, and that's just biological nature.

02:15:38.400 Especially if it's just two of you in a forest alone.

02:15:41.500 Going back to what you said about TikTok, do you think that perhaps your feed is curated to deliver a certain message to you about men?

02:15:49.260 No, because that's not based on my feed.

02:15:51.860 That's from feed that I've seen on other people or, like, that they've talked about it.

02:15:55.960 You pay attention to other people's feeds?

02:15:57.140 No, like, they've talked about it.

02:15:58.920 Like, oh, I saw this girl, yada, yada, yada.

02:16:00.980 And I'm like, oh, damn.

02:16:02.260 Right, but if you start consuming and watching content on TikTok that is talking about SA and victimization of women by men, and you stay engaged on it, you leave a comment, you like it.

02:16:14.040 Right.

02:16:14.280 Or even if you don't, but your watch time is high enough, TikTok is, like, their algorithm is super strong, and it's just going to push you that stuff.

02:16:23.140 That's true.

02:16:24.060 That's true.

02:16:24.900 They're very careful with how they...

02:16:26.520 Like, I don't know.

02:16:27.540 For some reason, I watched one fucking K-pop thing on TikTok, and now all I get is girl K-pop bands, and it's fucking crazy, bro.

02:16:37.180 That's really funny.

02:16:38.620 Blackpink, Illit.

02:16:40.600 That's all I'm seeing on my TikTok now.

02:16:42.800 Twice.

02:16:43.420 See, all I get on my TikTok is animals.

02:16:46.140 It's bothering me, bro.

02:16:47.700 Okay, pull up the stats really quick, and then we'll get back to the bear thing.

02:16:51.320 All right.

02:16:52.180 Oh, hold on.

02:16:53.520 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

02:16:57.220 You strumpets go to associate with a better class of men.

02:17:00.900 It is far more likely a man will help you.

02:17:03.640 Renounce the evils of feminism.

02:17:06.100 Embrace the patriarchy where we value and protect women.

02:17:09.440 I don't know about that one.

02:17:11.240 That's true.

02:17:11.560 All right, embrace the patriarchy, Grid One Motorsports.

02:17:13.880 Very good to see you in the chat, man.

02:17:14.980 Hope you're having a good day.

02:17:16.820 I'm going to read two other chats, then we'll pull up the statistics.

02:17:19.880 We have Dude1990.

02:17:22.720 Hold on, let me see if I can...

02:17:25.040 Imagine being more afraid of a toy spider than an actual bear.

02:17:29.800 Yeah, keep picking the bear.

02:17:32.520 Okay.

02:17:33.100 All right, Dude1990.

02:17:34.480 Appreciate it, bro.

02:17:35.620 And then we have another one from Dude1990.

02:17:38.160 He says...

02:17:39.160 He's cashing out.

02:17:40.360 He's so funny.

02:17:40.800 Dude1990.

02:17:42.020 Let's see.

02:17:43.120 What's crazy is, as a random American male, I would die to save every single woman on this panel versus a bear of any kind.

02:17:50.480 Why am I so dumb?

02:17:51.580 Make them answer this question.

02:17:53.180 Why are you so dumb?

02:17:57.040 And also, he said...

02:17:58.840 He said earlier...

02:18:00.700 I'm going to pull this one up again.

02:18:02.640 Ladies, I would pick you over the bear 10 out of 10 times, even though the majority of you would pick the bear.

02:18:06.860 Okay, so...

02:18:07.740 Dude1990.

02:18:08.500 Appreciate it.

02:18:08.940 Thank you, bro.

02:18:10.280 Okay, so let's pull up the statistic really quick.

02:18:12.760 You guys might disagree with the statistics, but I mean, this is a...

02:18:16.200 This is pretty Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics.

02:18:21.500 So they're saying that grape and SA is, like I said, 2018, 2.7, 2019, 1.7, 1.2.

02:18:33.860 And in 2022, 1.9 per thousand.

02:18:39.240 So I don't know, what's the percent that...

02:18:41.120 I'm terrible at math.

02:18:42.220 What would be the 0.2 in a given year?

02:18:47.540 Is that correct?

02:18:48.680 Okay.

02:18:49.480 All right.

02:18:49.740 My math is math-in.

02:18:51.300 So I'm just curious, though.

02:18:56.320 If it really was...

02:18:58.560 If it was genuinely, like if women were getting victimized at the rate that you suggested it is, 70%, and it's occurring more so on college campuses than in the broader general population,

02:19:12.980 why would any woman ever go to college if it was actually the case that the victimization rate was 70%?

02:19:24.380 Like if I was in an airplane, and there was a parachute, and they told me there was even a 5% chance that your parachute wouldn't open,

02:19:33.460 there's no scenario where I would get on that airplane and jump out.

02:19:39.500 And is SA one of the worst things a woman can experience in her life?

02:19:45.820 Sure.

02:19:46.440 Okay.

02:19:46.640 You could get tortured by Dexter.

02:19:48.340 Okay.

02:19:49.120 It's probably one of the worst things you can experience in your life.

02:19:51.640 Like, if it was actually the case, why aren't parents up in arms about this and refusing to send their kids to college?

02:20:00.940 And why are you willingly going to the slaughterhouse?

02:20:07.360 Because I don't think it's necessarily college.

02:20:10.700 I don't think people are getting, you know, having that done to them on college campus while they're attending class necessarily.

02:20:18.500 I think it's probably happening outside.

02:20:19.720 Is that the activities that they're attending at college?

02:20:22.500 Wait.

02:20:22.920 Like parties.

02:20:24.360 Can I ask you guys a question?

02:20:25.720 Can I ask you guys a question?

02:20:27.100 So you meet...

02:20:28.380 There are plenty of people who...

02:20:29.860 Hold on.

02:20:30.120 So you meet a guy at a party.

02:20:31.560 You're drunk.

02:20:32.440 He's drunk.

02:20:33.560 You guys have sex.

02:20:35.720 You regret it.

02:20:36.900 That's just regrettable.

02:20:37.420 We're USA'd.

02:20:38.360 That's just regrettable.

02:20:39.580 We're USA'd.

02:20:41.920 Sorry, what?

02:20:42.840 Were you not listening to...

02:20:44.420 No, sorry, what?

02:20:45.620 You said...

02:20:46.700 Here, try to repeat back to me what I said.

02:20:48.600 If two people were drunk.

02:20:50.020 Okay.

02:20:50.860 The guy's drunk.

02:20:51.940 The girl's drunk.

02:20:53.720 Equally drunk.

02:20:56.380 They hook up.

02:20:57.380 They have sex.

02:20:59.160 The girl regrets it in the morning.

02:21:01.000 What's she USA'd?

02:21:03.600 I wouldn't necessarily say she was USA'd.

02:21:06.220 What would you...

02:21:07.940 Would it be consensual sex?

02:21:09.400 I'm not talking blackout drunk.

02:21:17.820 I mean, they've had three beers.

02:21:19.460 Okay.

02:21:20.220 That's enough to get most people tipsy, but I don't think most people blackout drunk to

02:21:26.120 the point where they're just totally...

02:21:28.180 You'd be surprised by that.

02:21:29.940 I've known people on medication, like specifically antidepressants, who later told me that...

02:21:33.840 Okay, but so they're equally tipsy.

02:21:38.440 They hook up.

02:21:39.480 She regrets it.

02:21:41.060 Was she USA'd?

02:21:42.040 Was it non-consensual?

02:21:44.260 That's not...

02:21:46.260 That's not...

02:21:47.040 Just because she regrets it doesn't mean that it was non-consensual, right?

02:21:50.020 She still consented to it.

02:21:51.460 So I think that's a different scenario, because you can't regret it and then say that that's

02:21:56.000 non-consensual.

02:21:56.720 That's unfair for the guy, right?

02:21:57.600 How many women try to claim that?

02:21:59.960 What percentage of women try to claim that?

02:22:02.380 We can Google that, too, but that's a common thing that happens to men all the time, especially

02:22:07.640 men of status.

02:22:09.140 Yeah.

02:22:10.360 Wait, so going around on the question I asked, though, is it SA, the scenario I provided?

02:22:16.600 No, I wouldn't say it's SA.

02:22:18.340 No, I don't think so.

02:22:19.960 Okay.

02:22:20.400 I just wanted to get that clear.

02:22:24.340 Anyways, going back to this bear thing.

02:22:26.320 I mean, so 60, 50, 30, 50, the male population of the U.S. is about, it's a bit over 160

02:22:35.040 million.

02:22:36.000 You said 60% will just say it's 80 million men, 90 million men.

02:22:40.420 Are you prepared to say that 90 million men that currently live in the United States, if

02:22:44.620 given the opportunity, would be inclined to either murder or SA a woman in this forest

02:22:50.060 bear situation?

02:22:51.140 In this forest?

02:22:52.840 In the forest.

02:22:53.780 Yeah.

02:22:54.080 There's no one around.

02:22:54.960 I'd still say so, yeah.

02:22:55.640 90 million men.

02:22:56.860 Mm-hmm.

02:22:58.260 Okay.

02:22:58.820 What do you think?

02:23:00.280 You said 50%.

02:23:01.280 You think it's 80 million men?

02:23:03.200 I mean, I definitely misunderstood the question first.

02:23:05.940 But like, if you were on a plane of survival, I think you would probably team up and try and

02:23:11.580 survive more.

02:23:13.000 But then, yeah, I mean, eventually, once you are surviving and thriving, probably.

02:23:18.440 Probably.

02:23:18.940 Probably.

02:23:19.540 You would probably, so more than 50%, the guy would SA you?

02:23:24.560 Once we're thriving and not having to survive and be in survival mode?

02:23:29.840 Yeah, I think so.

02:23:32.780 What percentage?

02:23:34.660 50%?

02:23:35.500 Yeah.

02:23:35.920 50-50.

02:23:36.700 Okay.

02:23:36.920 You said 30, if I recall.

02:23:40.140 So, what would 30% be?

02:23:41.980 Like, 50 million men in the United States would be inclined to do this?

02:23:47.660 Like, maybe.

02:23:48.940 I don't know.

02:23:49.340 50 million men.

02:23:50.080 Okay.

02:23:50.580 What about you, Mesa?

02:23:51.520 You said 50.

02:23:52.480 So, you prepared to say that 80 million men in the United States would be inclined to murder

02:23:56.320 or rape women?

02:23:57.680 I probably would lower my percentage to probably, like, 30%, but still, if it was me versus

02:24:04.880 a man and a bear, I would still pick the bear.

02:24:08.660 So, 50 million men in the United States would be inclined to murder or SA a woman.

02:24:18.140 Okay.

02:24:20.700 It's interesting.

02:24:22.200 Well, how could it be, then, you are not, all of you are just not totally biased against

02:24:26.460 men if this is the case?

02:24:28.500 Because there are also 50% of men who are so good out there.

02:24:33.920 We're not just totally delusionally sitting here saying, oh, we hate all men.

02:24:38.040 Yeah, but, I mean, you're leaning towards the majority of men.

02:24:40.780 I mean, 60%.

02:24:42.200 She's saying the majority of men.

02:24:44.320 Why do you think dads always tell their daughters, watch out for men?

02:24:49.720 Why do you think so?

02:24:51.380 Because they've seen it all, right?

02:24:52.820 There's such a high percentage of girls or women who, I don't know, men do something

02:25:00.760 to them.

02:25:02.380 I mean, moms give this same warning, but I think it's sort of this general stranger danger

02:25:08.340 thing that, that exists.

02:25:10.620 How come they don't say that about women?

02:25:11.620 Okay, but that's the thing is most people who are sexually assaulted, most of the time

02:25:17.700 it's not a stranger.

02:25:18.600 For me, it wasn't a stranger.

02:25:19.980 It was someone who had known me since I was 15.

02:25:21.920 Yeah, that's true.

02:25:23.180 That is true.

02:25:24.300 And that wasn't even my first experience ever.

02:25:26.780 It's more likely to be somebody you know.

02:25:28.340 It's always repeatedly been someone I knew.

02:25:30.440 Yeah.

02:25:32.140 But in any case, I mean, it's still not really...

02:25:35.460 And that'll completely rock your world.

02:25:37.120 Like, I don't...

02:25:38.780 You're asking why, but, like, you have to actually look in it on depth.

02:25:42.620 When someone goes through something like that, so traumatizing, with someone that they did

02:25:50.220 know and that they trusted, I mean, it rocks your world.

02:25:55.880 You sit there and you question whether or not anything was even real.

02:26:00.200 Yeah, essay is bad.

02:26:01.440 That's not really the...

02:26:02.100 It leaves you feeling insane.

02:26:03.080 That's not the conversation at hand, though.

02:26:05.180 Okay, but you're asking why?

02:26:06.220 Trauma.

02:26:07.680 Okay.

02:26:07.980 But, again, so you said your parents tell you that be wary of men.

02:26:13.440 Mm-hmm.

02:26:14.240 Okay.

02:26:14.780 They tell you that, but, I mean, it still ultimately comes down to you that your assessment is that

02:26:21.540 60% of men, you feel, would be inclined to murder or essay women.

02:26:30.640 200 Acuipyrus 29 donated $200.

02:26:34.380 This panel seems to have trolls and it's annoying, but I love your pot, so I still want to give

02:26:40.500 support.

02:26:41.320 Thank you, man.

02:26:41.700 They are saying half the men in the room would essay.

02:26:44.740 The girl next to Brian has a very high IQ toe.

02:26:48.740 Toe?

02:26:49.460 Thank you.

02:26:49.900 She's got an IQ toe.

02:26:51.580 All right, thank you, bro.

02:26:52.720 Toe.

02:26:54.840 Epirus?

02:26:55.420 Epirus?

02:26:56.220 200 AK Epirus.

02:26:57.420 Thank you for the TTS, man.

02:26:59.600 Really appreciate it.

02:27:00.120 I think this is our first time seeing you.

02:27:01.460 Thank you for your first TTS, man.

02:27:02.840 Thank you.

02:27:04.380 I just think it's crazy that you think, like, that many men.

02:27:13.060 You're throwing, like, huge swaths of the population under the bus.

02:27:18.100 Nick, do you have that meme?

02:27:19.280 The Kyle meme?

02:27:20.400 You got the Kyle meme?

02:27:21.400 Oh, wait, sorry.

02:27:24.240 That's crazy.

02:27:25.960 Y'all crazy for that one.

02:27:27.920 Do you guys see you're saying...

02:27:29.540 Wait, hold on.

02:27:30.220 Let's react to this meme really quick.

02:27:31.380 Call me crazy one more time.

02:27:33.100 Like, literally.

02:27:34.000 Up to nine feet tall, up to 1,300 pounds, claws, bite force, 1,200, Kyle, 5'10", ew,

02:27:41.620 170 pounds, project engineer, said hi to you at the gym.

02:27:46.120 This is essentially that...

02:27:47.380 Wait, so go ahead.

02:27:49.260 No, no, go ahead.

02:27:50.160 You're good.

02:27:50.440 No, you were about to...

02:27:51.380 I was saying, that's crazy.

02:27:52.940 And then you got all...

02:27:54.360 Say that one more time.

02:27:55.460 Say it to my face.

02:27:56.140 Literally, because I literally just sat here and told you how my experiences have led me

02:28:00.820 to feel about men, and how I told you how I felt literally insane.

02:28:05.420 Literally insane.

02:28:06.680 So you're insane.

02:28:07.080 And questioning whether...

02:28:08.260 No, I'm not insane.

02:28:09.540 No, you said you feel insane.

02:28:10.580 Because I've done a lot of healing.

02:28:11.360 I said I felt insane.

02:28:13.620 Do you think insane people have good grasp of statistics and likelihood and probabilities?

02:28:18.200 No, I'm sure they probably don't, or they could, maybe.

02:28:22.240 I don't know.

02:28:22.980 Yeah, you just conceded you were insane.

02:28:24.180 A lot of it probably has to do with trauma.

02:28:26.080 I said I felt like I was insane because of everything that I have been through.

02:28:31.300 Sure, bad things happen to people.

02:28:33.000 Totally get it.

02:28:33.820 And I've moved on.

02:28:34.980 I'm not saying that they're still present in my life.

02:28:36.840 I've moved on.

02:28:37.640 It's good.

02:28:38.220 It doesn't sound like you have because you're holding it against men.

02:28:40.980 And just because you had trauma doesn't mean that you can justify...

02:28:44.200 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, babe.

02:28:45.160 Let's back up.

02:28:45.780 I'm not holding it against all men.

02:28:47.120 I never said all men.

02:28:48.700 I said about 50%.

02:28:50.300 That's a majority of men.

02:28:52.880 It's half.

02:28:53.300 It's half.

02:28:54.020 It's not a majority.

02:28:55.440 It's half.

02:28:55.740 50%, 0.5%.

02:28:57.200 But again, because of my personal experiences where someone I knew who knew and trusted

02:29:04.380 to protect me, especially as a child, failed to do that.

02:29:09.080 Lol Paladins donated $200.

02:29:11.900 I also agree this panel is the absolute worst.

02:29:15.220 60% of women are child abusers.

02:29:18.440 And I can just say that because I feel that.

02:29:21.700 Her logic.

02:29:23.740 Well, that's the point that I was getting at.

02:29:25.500 It sounds like you're holding on to trauma.

02:29:27.340 I'm not saying they're child abusers.

02:29:28.740 No, he's saying that all women are doing that.

02:29:32.700 It's an example that he gave.

02:29:34.140 Yeah, no, I'm not saying that at all.

02:29:36.260 I was definitely saying that at all.

02:29:38.080 I was definitely saying that at all.

02:29:39.900 Good to see you in the chat, Lol Paladins.

02:29:41.640 That's his, he has a sound.

02:29:43.120 That's so funny.

02:29:43.380 He gets like a sound.

02:29:44.900 Oh, because he's just like a regular?

02:29:46.300 Go ahead.

02:29:46.780 Go ahead.

02:29:47.120 Did you?

02:29:47.540 Well, I was just saying just because something horrible happened to you, and I'm sorry that

02:29:51.140 that happened to you repeatedly with, I'm assuming, different people.

02:29:54.280 It sounds like you're holding on to that drama as a means to justify your bias towards men

02:29:59.780 in general.

02:30:00.120 Mistrust.

02:30:00.620 I'm not, don't say bias, mistrust.

02:30:02.840 And it's not just mistrust of men.

02:30:04.360 It's mistrust of all people.

02:30:06.460 I like, because literally, like I hold those who are close to me so close and dear because

02:30:11.980 like looking at you guys, I don't know who any of you people are.

02:30:15.800 I wouldn't trust you for anything.

02:30:17.900 No offense.

02:30:18.640 I mean, that's, it's just because I don't know you.

02:30:20.640 Do you think that that's an unhealed part of you that's going to challenge you in your

02:30:24.960 relationships?

02:30:25.440 No, I think that's a survival instinct.

02:30:28.380 I think that's what's keeping me from getting hurt repeatedly and making maybe the same mistakes

02:30:33.120 that I did make that got me hurt in the first place.

02:30:35.680 As an older woman than you, I look at you and I see a lot of pain.

02:30:40.400 I come from an abusive household.

02:30:43.740 I hold a lifelong restraining order against my father.

02:30:46.300 I have every reason in the world to despise men, to feel unsafe in their presence, to

02:30:52.420 totally reject them and not want to be around them.

02:30:56.480 But I worked through that trauma and I healed from it.

02:30:59.480 And I'm able to sit here and look you in the eye and tell you, I need a man.

02:31:03.300 I'm so much safer in this world with a man.

02:31:05.900 I never said I didn't need a man.

02:31:07.440 Right.

02:31:07.640 Why do you need a man to feel safe?

02:31:09.160 Because of who?

02:31:11.800 Life is so much easier with a man by your side.

02:31:15.100 Why?

02:31:15.600 I agree.

02:31:16.180 Who said I wanted life to be easy?

02:31:19.240 Well, then you're picking your poison there with that.

02:31:22.280 Yeah, but life can be easy, just me being on my own as well.

02:31:24.920 You're choosing a very challenging path to go down.

02:31:26.900 I don't have to have a man to make my life easy.

02:31:29.480 It would be easy.

02:31:29.980 Okay, then don't sit here and complain that you want this man to take you seriously then.

02:31:34.280 What man?

02:31:35.060 The one that you described earlier in the podcast when you were saying, oh, I wish that we could

02:31:40.740 be exclusive and now you're backpedaling and you're like, oh, well, if that's challenging,

02:31:45.260 that's okay.

02:31:45.740 You're doubling down on your argument is what's happening because you don't want to be embarrassed.

02:31:49.500 I'm really not.

02:31:50.120 No, because the way I see it with a guy, you have no one to compete with but me.

02:31:56.080 I love my free time.

02:31:57.480 I love the shit that I do in my personal life.

02:31:59.840 I wouldn't give that up for, I mean, someone unless they were really good.

02:32:03.600 You've got to sit here and prove to me that I should give that up.

02:32:07.300 Give what up?

02:32:07.980 Your hobbies?

02:32:08.680 Who's asking you to do that?

02:32:09.680 My hobby is whatever I'm doing.

02:32:11.880 How is that relevant?

02:32:13.840 What do you mean, how is that relevant?

02:32:15.940 What man is asking you to give up your hobby?

02:32:18.140 I don't know why that was brought up.

02:32:19.060 Okay, well, that's the thing is like in the past, I've had men who have been like, oh,

02:32:23.540 you need to set aside time, which is fine.

02:32:26.300 I don't mind setting aside time.

02:32:28.480 But then they would venture into like, okay, well, maybe don't do this so you can set aside

02:32:33.000 time.

02:32:33.600 No, I'm not going to give up on my training just to set aside time for you.

02:32:39.060 I have things in my life that I would like to accomplish.

02:32:42.840 But what if he helps you accomplish those?

02:32:46.460 Then he's really got to step up and like actually prove it.

02:32:49.380 And he wouldn't be asking me to skip training if he wanted to really help me train.

02:32:54.380 He would enforce that.

02:32:55.740 I think he would help you.

02:32:57.100 I just think when you're with a man that can lead you, you can just turn your brain off and

02:33:02.840 you trust that wherever you're going, wherever he leads you.

02:33:05.480 Yeah.

02:33:05.840 I'd like a man who would lead me 100%.

02:33:08.300 I just don't trust any of the men to actually lead me because based on their behavior, you're

02:33:14.800 holding yourself back then from having a man lead you.

02:33:17.980 No, because that's never stopped me from pursuing men or pursuing that.

02:33:21.720 I still pursue that.

02:33:24.260 And I trust until given a reason to not trust.

02:33:28.080 Would you submit to a man or no?

02:33:30.060 What do you mean by submit?

02:33:32.020 Because like I feel like everybody has such different definitions.

02:33:35.540 No, no, no, no.

02:33:35.980 No, no, I'm just asking what do you specifically mean by submit?

02:33:39.360 Because I feel like everyone can have very personal definitions of that.

02:33:43.200 Well, I would say you let him take the lead and that's literally submitting.

02:33:49.620 Like you're allowing him to take control of mostly, I mean for me, I would let my man take

02:33:56.040 control of it all.

02:33:57.040 Yeah, like what we do, financials.

02:33:59.180 Right.

02:34:01.800 I can't even think of what else there might be.

02:34:04.200 Like would you let the man be the head of the household or do you want 50-50?

02:34:07.660 What do you mean head of the household?

02:34:09.380 Like working.

02:34:09.800 Make big decisions.

02:34:10.320 He provides for you.

02:34:11.480 I'd like to be included on big decisions.

02:34:13.720 Yeah, I think that's important.

02:34:15.060 I wouldn't really, I don't like the word submit because that makes it seem like one's higher

02:34:19.820 than the other.

02:34:20.320 I think it needs to be a partnership.

02:34:21.820 I don't think it's, I don't think it's one's higher than the other because as women, we

02:34:26.680 can do things that men can't do and men can do things we cannot do.

02:34:30.460 And it's not one's better than the other.

02:34:32.020 It's just, it's a puzzle.

02:34:33.980 No, no, and I didn't say one's better than the other.

02:34:37.400 I think you're misunderstanding me.

02:34:38.500 I didn't say one's better.

02:34:39.780 I said in a household when one is submissive, it's an authority thing is what I'm saying.

02:34:45.840 It's an authority thing.

02:34:47.960 But you need to have trust to allow that.

02:34:50.160 Yeah, you need to have trust to allow that.

02:34:52.920 Most of the men who I've been with aren't trustworthy.

02:34:55.660 But why?

02:34:56.000 And that's just plain and simple.

02:34:57.120 Because I've seen their behavior.

02:34:58.980 No, because I've seen their behavior and they don't bring the safe.

02:35:03.180 So why don't you surround yourself around men that have better values?

02:35:06.340 Oh, well I have now.

02:35:07.280 The guy that you were just talking about who you said may not respect me and I can't expect

02:35:12.180 him to have a conversation.

02:35:13.380 That's, what do you mean?

02:35:15.540 Like have a conversation with him to let him know this is how I feel.

02:35:17.960 I don't want to just speak, like to mess around.

02:35:20.200 We've had a conversation.

02:35:21.840 Does it line up with what you want?

02:35:23.720 Like how you want to settle or just fully give yourself in?

02:35:26.620 I've made him well aware of what I want and we talked a little bit.

02:35:34.380 It didn't go too into depth and we talked about talking more in depth.

02:35:38.380 But yeah, he's someone who actually does bring that out of me and actually makes me feel like

02:35:43.760 a man can lead.

02:35:44.860 Good.

02:35:45.200 That's good.

02:35:45.500 I'm happy for you.

02:35:46.520 Cool.

02:35:47.000 Yay.

02:35:48.180 Yeah.

02:35:48.580 Like, no, I was just like, just listening to you talk, like I was just going to ask,

02:35:52.620 like, do you actually like allow yourself to trust people?

02:35:57.700 Yes.

02:35:57.860 One hundred percent.

02:35:59.060 I trust you until you give me a reason to trust and not to trust you.

02:36:02.920 Yeah.

02:36:03.100 But that's the thing.

02:36:03.800 It sounds like you just have some, like some sort of like hurt in you or I don't know how

02:36:11.060 to explain it, but then you're holding on to.

02:36:12.940 So it's like, cause listening to you talk, it's like, he has to prove something to me.

02:36:17.100 But it's also when you have to allow yourself to want to be able to trust someone.

02:36:19.900 No, one hundred percent.

02:36:21.180 I'm definitely guarded.

02:36:22.520 I'll agree with that.

02:36:24.340 Do you think that makes it a little harder for you to pursue men?

02:36:27.980 I think it definitely makes it harder, but at the same time, not really, because I'm

02:36:34.020 definitely not that guarded.

02:36:35.700 All you have to do is bring it out of me.

02:36:37.920 The thing is, like, I don't communicate with someone.

02:36:40.760 Like, if I'm not communicating with you, if I'm giving you mixed signals or you're questioning

02:36:45.280 how I feel, that's a clear sign that I'm not, I'm not into it.

02:36:51.120 And that clearly I'm just like, not, you're not, see, it feels bad to like put it on them,

02:37:00.080 but you're not bringing something out of me.

02:37:03.700 But what are you bringing to them?

02:37:05.780 Yeah.

02:37:06.520 That's fair.

02:37:08.220 That's fair.

02:37:08.880 That was a good question.

02:37:11.960 Like, what do you offer to them?

02:37:14.780 And I mean, personally, I think that can only be decided by that person.

02:37:20.320 I don't think that can be decided by me.

02:37:22.360 What do you think that you bring to the table?

02:37:26.360 When you are allowing yourself to trust someone.

02:37:28.720 When I am allowing myself to trust somebody, I think I can be super open and I can have

02:37:34.140 really good communication and I can be loving and supportive.

02:37:38.400 Like, with my friends, it's totally, yeah, it's great.

02:37:41.300 But do you think that that's all a man needs?

02:37:44.280 No.

02:37:44.800 No, definitely not.

02:37:48.380 Wait, I have a question for you.

02:37:50.100 So, like, what you expect, like, in a relationship or, like, from a man,

02:37:53.720 what you want them to offer, can you also offer the same thing in return?

02:37:57.660 Yes.

02:37:58.300 Yeah.

02:37:58.820 I had a, I actually feel like I probably already talked about this, but, yeah,

02:38:02.960 before the guy I'm seeing now, my last situationship, he wanted me to do things

02:38:09.240 and act like his girlfriend and I was like, I'm not your girlfriend, though.

02:38:15.840 Until you make me your girlfriend, I'm not going to do certain things.

02:38:19.000 But it's also kind of, like, you can, like, flip those situations and he can be like,

02:38:24.340 oh, well, you're not my girlfriend yet because you're not, like,

02:38:26.920 you're not displaying that behavior.

02:38:28.820 A lot of men do that with marriage, too.

02:38:30.500 Yeah.

02:38:30.980 And I'm not saying that I can't display that behavior with someone that I'm not dating.

02:38:35.560 I can.

02:38:36.600 It just, that has to be a very special person.

02:38:40.720 That guy who I was seeing before this guy was also just very immature and doing things very wrong.

02:38:46.440 He kissed another girl out of pettiness, like, right in front of me.

02:38:49.560 So, like, he was just not it.

02:38:51.180 He was just not there.

02:38:52.700 Yeah.

02:38:53.500 I'd agree.

02:38:54.000 That's not it.

02:38:55.000 Were you guys just, like, talking at the time?

02:38:57.140 Oh, yeah.

02:38:57.560 We had had a three-month-long talking, like, phase, I guess.

02:39:03.720 What are you guys giggling about?

02:39:06.060 I was just saying, I feel left out because I don't even, like, pursue men.

02:39:09.480 You can talk about your experiences with what you bring to the table, you know, those types

02:39:16.440 of topics are open.

02:39:18.500 Like, what do you think about that?

02:39:19.600 Like, are we going off the, like, bear topic?

02:39:22.380 No, I guess we can just go bear.

02:39:24.880 It goes men versus women.

02:39:26.880 But, like, it's like cooking, cleaning.

02:39:29.100 Do you think it's a lot easier to trust women than men in your experience?

02:39:34.320 But, see, with the cooking, the cleaning, I feel like that should be like thinking of

02:39:37.320 that.

02:39:37.380 I agree with that.

02:39:38.180 Oh, no.

02:39:39.040 If you see something that needs to be done, just do it.

02:39:41.360 It just came in.

02:39:43.480 In what ways, do you think?

02:39:46.900 Well, when y'all are talking about, like, being with a man and women have the roles and

02:39:53.700 the men have the roles, I don't see that.

02:39:56.400 I don't really understand it, more or less.

02:40:01.060 I feel like a woman can also do a man's roles, and a man can also do a woman's roles.

02:40:07.480 So.

02:40:08.740 I think that kind of is what we're talking about, though.

02:40:11.520 So there's, like, even, so would you say in your relationships with other women you've

02:40:16.060 seen a dynamic of one playing the more masculine role and one playing the more feminine role?

02:40:22.620 So, I think that's essentially what we're kind of saying, like, there's things that

02:40:28.160 men do, aka masculine things that they do, and there's also things that women do, which

02:40:33.420 is, like, in every relationship it works out, but.

02:40:36.880 And I think the more masculine a man is, the more feminine you can be.

02:40:40.840 He'll bring that femininity out of you, if that makes sense.

02:40:43.900 And there's definitely peace in the relationship.

02:40:46.500 And that's what I was trying to, like, get at when I was saying, like, oh, he doesn't bring

02:40:50.820 something out of me, and, like, it sounded bad, and it sounded like I was trying to make

02:40:54.100 it, like, oh, it's your fault.

02:40:55.140 You're not bringing something out of me.

02:40:56.540 No, that's the thing, is they're just not masculine.

02:40:59.540 They're, like, they're not masculine.

02:41:01.940 They're emotionally immature.

02:41:03.820 I mean, like, this guy used to, like, crap on me for not being able to communicate, and

02:41:08.540 I'm like, you won't communicate with me, either.

02:41:12.260 You literally, oh, he was such an interesting man.

02:41:14.860 Do you think there's, like, an outbreak of a lot more feminine men these days?

02:41:19.680 Yeah.

02:41:20.080 They want princess treatment.

02:41:21.780 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

02:41:25.400 The trauma llama chick cannot offer the one thing men want, peace.

02:41:29.300 You are disagreeable and feminist, and good men avoid those things.

02:41:34.000 I think you need self-reflection.

02:41:36.540 Embrace patriarchy.

02:41:38.580 Thank you, Grid One.

02:41:39.980 Do you want to respond to that?

02:41:41.740 I heard that.

02:41:44.860 Did you have a response, or?

02:41:46.660 Huh?

02:41:47.120 Did you have a response to that?

02:41:48.540 Yeah, thank you.

02:41:50.720 Thanks, Grid One.

02:41:52.500 So, princess treatment.

02:41:54.240 What is, like, what is princess treatment for men?

02:41:57.740 What does it look like for men, you think?

02:42:02.360 Wait for men.

02:42:03.420 Can I ask a question before we start talking about that?

02:42:06.360 I agree with you on, like, the idea of, like, not, I wouldn't say I need a man, but

02:42:10.820 I would want one for the same reasons, but where would you?

02:42:13.640 This is just, like, since you're engaged, like, I'm sure you've had a lot of experience.

02:42:17.220 Where would you draw the line of, like, what a man's roles, quote-unquote roles are, or, like, in terms of, like, how she mentioned, oh, my God, why can't I remember the word?

02:42:28.240 S word.

02:42:28.980 Submission.

02:42:29.440 Submission.

02:42:29.780 What's the man's role of the dynamic of having a woman submit, being worthy of submission?

02:42:36.560 So, I'll give you a girl's context so you can understand where I'm coming from.

02:42:40.440 I think I would have been the perfect poster child of feminism.

02:42:43.740 So, I was raised by a single mother.

02:42:46.360 I went to college.

02:42:47.400 I got my degree in statistics, which is a male-dominated field.

02:42:51.040 I got my job at Visa, and at the age of 24, I bought my home in the Bay Area, which is an expensive market to purchase a home in.

02:42:58.300 I don't mean to brag about myself, but it just proves to you that I worked my butt off to get what I had.

02:43:03.940 Yeah, you could do it by yourself.

02:43:04.880 After I bought my home, I proceeded to remodel the home with my own two hands using YouTube tutorials.

02:43:10.200 So, like, literally, I did not need a man.

02:43:12.320 I did the manly work.

02:43:14.140 I scraped a popcorn ceiling.

02:43:15.900 I put in a full laminate floor.

02:43:17.760 I learned how to use a table saw and not cut off all ten fingers, right?

02:43:22.020 So, like, I proved it.

02:43:23.480 I did the thing.

02:43:24.720 I proved that I can live this life without a man, and I'm telling you, it is not fulfilling.

02:43:29.320 Because at the end of the day, I was sitting in an empty home, absolutely miserable that I was alone.

02:43:35.080 So, I need a man to fulfill my greatest potential in life, which is to become a mother.

02:43:41.560 There is nothing that's better than becoming a mother and having that legacy.

02:43:45.880 And when you find the right man who wants to have that legacy as well, you will want to submit to him.

02:43:51.380 I think the issue is, and what we've come across with this whole bear thing, is that women are being fed this lie that men are bad, men are dangerous.

02:44:02.260 And so, you have that in your mind.

02:44:04.480 And when you believe that men are bad, you're not going to see the best in them.

02:44:08.800 You're not going to pick out the best men.

02:44:10.900 I used to lie to myself when I was 21, 20, and I would tell myself, I don't want kids.

02:44:17.480 What do you think that did subconsciously to me?

02:44:19.800 You don't want men.

02:44:20.580 When I'm dating, I don't care if he's going to be a good dad.

02:44:24.360 Right.

02:44:25.060 So, if you start dating a guy who's going to be a terrible father, how is he going to treat you?

02:44:30.640 Terribly.

02:44:31.460 Right?

02:44:31.940 And it wasn't until I met my fiancé, who would be an amazing father, was I like, oh my gosh, I want your babies.

02:44:39.740 Like, when you are in the presence of a strong man, it brings out the feminine side of you.

02:44:45.800 It truly allows you to flourish and become the best version of yourself possible.

02:44:50.580 And without my fiancé, I would not be who I am today.

02:44:53.860 I'm so grateful for him.

02:44:55.920 Because we, as women, we multiply.

02:44:57.840 A man brings a house, we make it a home.

02:44:59.600 A man brings a deer he was hunting for, we make it food.

02:45:04.140 Right.

02:45:04.580 A man gives us love, we give him children.

02:45:06.460 We multiply what a man does.

02:45:08.420 So, if he's also bringing in chaos, we're going to also multiply that, though.

02:45:12.660 Right.

02:45:13.080 So, a man needs to be worthy of submission.

02:45:16.300 And that's a huge problem that I see on social media is these men just try to demand so much out of women.

02:45:23.420 And they're not secure.

02:45:25.380 They're not stable.

02:45:26.460 So, how dare they demand that of a woman?

02:45:29.220 So, you need to be vigilant and filter through your men that you decide to date.

02:45:33.680 And don't give these guys who aren't worthy of submission your attention at all.

02:45:38.460 You have to learn.

02:45:39.180 The woman is in total control.

02:45:40.860 But women give the most awful men the attention.

02:45:44.780 And all of the control.

02:45:45.980 It's awful.

02:45:47.700 I feel you.

02:45:48.660 Thank you.

02:45:49.140 That was so perfectly...

02:45:50.660 Yeah.

02:45:51.080 I love you.

02:45:51.740 That was great.

02:45:52.540 Greatly rewarded.

02:45:53.040 It took me a few years to get to that.

02:45:55.960 All right.

02:45:57.400 Where are we?

02:45:58.220 Welcome back.

02:45:59.820 I had to get some...

02:46:00.720 I forgot to post all the Instagram stories and stuff.

02:46:03.460 So, all right.

02:46:05.380 Let me read a couple chats.

02:46:06.640 We'll maybe finish up with the bear stuff.

02:46:08.460 Epirus, thanks for the gifted subs.

02:46:09.800 I've been done with the bear stuff.

02:46:10.760 We're still on that.

02:46:13.240 We've some fears.

02:46:14.200 Hold on.

02:46:14.660 And then we have Christopher Martin.

02:46:18.100 Yo, thank you for the $200 soup chat, man.

02:46:19.760 No message, though.

02:46:20.480 Thank you for the soup chat.

02:46:21.480 If you want to do a TTS, it's like where the robot voice comes in.

02:46:25.760 You can do it streamlabs.com slash whatever.

02:46:30.920 And a little robot voice comes in nearly instantly.

02:46:33.640 So, Christopher Martin, thank you for your soup chat, though.

02:46:35.420 Nevertheless.

02:46:36.680 And then let me just make sure we're...

02:46:38.300 I need to change.

02:46:39.820 Yeah, guys.

02:46:40.540 Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

02:46:43.760 Drop us a Prime sub.

02:46:45.700 And a follow if you have one.

02:46:47.060 Guys, it's been 31 minutes since we last got a Prime sub.

02:46:50.620 I think I got bugged again.

02:46:52.240 Can you guys, like, do a little test?

02:46:53.900 Like, if any of you have, like, a Prime sub available, boys?

02:46:56.640 Like, test out if, like, you can get us one, you know?

02:46:59.200 Also, like, drop us a follow.

02:47:00.620 What accent is that?

02:47:01.640 It's like Canadian.

02:47:03.080 What?

02:47:03.380 That looks Scottish.

02:47:05.120 That looks Scottish.

02:47:05.620 That looks like Canadian.

02:47:06.440 Or Irish.

02:47:06.900 Yo, Darth Jig.

02:47:07.960 Like, thank you for the Prime, man.

02:47:10.240 Thank you, dude.

02:47:11.280 Oh, my God.

02:47:11.940 Look at this.

02:47:12.680 Oh, my God.

02:47:13.160 The chat is on fire.

02:47:14.300 Look at all these follows.

02:47:15.460 Holy shit.

02:47:16.660 Oh, my God.

02:47:17.580 They are on fire.

02:47:19.120 Scheisse.

02:47:20.320 That's German.

02:47:21.220 That's German.

02:47:22.520 I'm thinking of Germany in the corner.

02:47:24.080 Yo, Barry Crunch.

02:47:25.620 Thank you for the Prime.

02:47:27.060 Look at...

02:47:27.420 Oh, my God.

02:47:27.920 These guys are on fire.

02:47:29.180 Holy shit.

02:47:29.960 What is going on?

02:47:31.540 Blunsky.

02:47:32.040 Thank you for the Prime.

02:47:33.260 Oh, my God.

02:47:34.080 Oh, my God.

02:47:34.800 Oh, shit.

02:47:36.220 Yo, Tall Rick.

02:47:36.980 Look at the Prime.

02:47:37.740 Oh, my goodness.

02:47:39.240 Oh, my...

02:47:39.840 What is going on?

02:47:40.740 Um...

02:47:41.180 Wait.

02:47:41.840 Is this, like...

02:47:42.640 Is this bugged?

02:47:43.320 I've never seen this happen, bro.

02:47:44.900 This is crazy.

02:47:46.220 Like, we'll get, like, two followers.

02:47:48.040 It actually might be bugged this time, bro.

02:47:49.640 I think it's actually bugged.

02:47:51.300 Yo, Tasty.

02:47:53.000 Oh, my God.

02:47:53.760 These guys are on fire.

02:47:54.740 What are you doing?

02:47:57.600 No fucking way, bro.

02:48:00.100 Are we getting...

02:48:00.960 Is it, like, a bot attack?

02:48:02.620 Like, they're just bots who are following?

02:48:04.140 I don't know.

02:48:04.820 Yo, Tasty.

02:48:05.360 Think for the Tier 1.

02:48:06.820 Tall Rick.

02:48:07.280 Think for the Prime.

02:48:07.860 Blunsky.

02:48:08.240 Think for the Prime.

02:48:09.300 Barry Crunch.

02:48:09.940 Think for the Prime.

02:48:11.180 No, there's no way.

02:48:12.740 Who's fucking...

02:48:13.560 That's going on.

02:48:14.340 Oh, my.

02:48:14.880 Someone's buying it.

02:48:15.160 This has to be...

02:48:16.760 Is somebody, like, trying to...

02:48:22.060 I don't know.

02:48:23.200 That's crazy.

02:48:24.020 It's not stopping.

02:48:26.140 Somebody's definitely buying...

02:48:28.020 Applebee's.

02:48:29.040 There's no way.

02:48:30.020 This is not...

02:48:30.420 Somebody's, like...

02:48:31.100 I don't know if they're trying to, like, make it look like we're buying follows or something.

02:48:34.940 That's super weird.

02:48:36.100 Anyways, whatever.

02:48:37.260 Okay.

02:48:37.720 All right.

02:48:38.580 Are you trying to get us banned on Twitch, boys?

02:48:40.300 It's already bugged.

02:48:41.040 Our Twitch is already bugged, and you're trying to get us banned?

02:48:43.000 All right.

02:48:43.860 All right.

02:48:44.260 Thank you, guys, for the follows.

02:48:45.660 And then also, reminder, can you pull up the center thing?

02:48:48.600 Yeah.

02:48:49.860 You're going to have to...

02:48:50.820 You guys, TTS 200.

02:48:54.080 Read 100.

02:48:55.460 Display 10.

02:48:56.180 Okay.

02:48:56.500 All right.

02:48:57.040 Final things here on the bear thing, I guess.

02:48:59.940 A couple questions.

02:49:01.880 Clarifying questions.

02:49:07.560 If you were in a bathroom, would you rather a man or a bear wanders in?

02:49:17.400 In a bathroom?

02:49:20.480 In the bathroom.

02:49:21.020 I don't know.

02:49:23.040 Like, I'm at home.

02:49:24.840 This bathroom?

02:49:25.920 Go to the mic.

02:49:26.400 No, like, into the mic.

02:49:27.340 This bathroom?

02:49:28.660 Any...

02:49:29.340 A public bathroom.

02:49:32.160 A bathroom.

02:49:33.020 There's stalls.

02:49:34.980 You want me to describe the bathroom?

02:49:36.620 There's five urinals.

02:49:38.200 I don't know why you're in the men's bathroom.

02:49:40.420 And then there's five...

02:49:43.800 No, there's...

02:49:44.260 Sorry, there's no urinals.

02:49:45.160 It's the woman's bathroom.

02:49:46.220 Woman's bathroom.

02:49:47.080 You're in the woman's bathroom.

02:49:47.960 And a man walked in.

02:49:48.820 So he thinks he's a girl?

02:49:50.260 So would you rather a man or a bear wanders into a woman's bathroom?

02:49:53.540 A woman knows that it's a woman's bathroom and walked in.

02:49:54.860 So he thinks he's a girl.

02:49:56.440 Well, then we'll know.

02:49:57.480 Well, we're not getting there yet, but...

02:49:59.400 So a man knows that it's a woman's bathroom and he just walked in?

02:50:03.160 Or he knows it's in there?

02:50:03.760 We don't know what he knows.

02:50:05.380 Or he just walks in.

02:50:06.260 Would you rather...

02:50:07.480 It's what you would rather.

02:50:09.660 A man or a bear wanders in.

02:50:12.040 I'm just fine.

02:50:14.500 It's not that hard, though.

02:50:16.760 God damn.

02:50:17.960 I don't...

02:50:23.980 And we don't know the intentions of either, right?

02:50:26.200 No.

02:50:26.460 Still.

02:50:27.040 No.

02:50:27.240 Sorry, still bear.

02:50:28.780 Still bear?

02:50:29.600 Okay, what about you?

02:50:30.460 Skip me for now.

02:50:31.300 I don't know anything.

02:50:32.000 Macy, what about you?

02:50:33.020 I'd probably still go with the bear.

02:50:36.140 I feel like she'll go with either a man.

02:50:38.040 Do you...

02:50:38.500 What do you pick?

02:50:41.360 Dude, okay.

02:50:42.820 Dude.

02:50:43.180 Like, probably a man.

02:50:50.000 One eternity later.

02:50:52.380 Just because I've been in, like, the multi-gender use bathrooms and, like, it doesn't bother me at all.

02:51:01.760 Like, I'm chill.

02:51:02.360 Does it change if it's a transgender woman?

02:51:07.580 Transgender woman?

02:51:09.180 I would choose a transgender woman.

02:51:10.820 Yeah, I would, too.

02:51:11.560 Even though they're still male?

02:51:16.220 No, because to me, she's a woman.

02:51:18.320 I'll grant you that she's a woman, but she's still a male.

02:51:25.800 Like, has male genitalia?

02:51:28.180 No, just still a male.

02:51:29.140 We don't know about the gonads.

02:51:31.000 What do you mean by still male?

02:51:33.520 Well, you can't.

02:51:34.540 You can't change your sex.

02:51:37.980 Unless you think you can.

02:51:39.660 So you're saying the genitalia is still there?

02:51:42.020 No.

02:51:43.780 The genitalia could be there.

02:51:45.320 It could not be there.

02:51:46.260 Like the biology?

02:51:46.960 Unless you're saying a transgender woman can't be a woman.

02:51:51.160 No, she is a woman.

02:51:52.780 Regardless of the genitalia.

02:51:54.240 Yeah.

02:51:54.680 So the transgender woman could still have a penis, but also be a woman.

02:51:58.640 Yeah, but I would rather have the transgender woman in there.

02:52:01.460 Because to me, that's a woman.

02:52:03.700 She's a woman.

02:52:05.760 Okay.

02:52:07.500 Interesting.

02:52:08.640 But you would have no issues, then, perhaps somebody who's a bit more hardline than you,

02:52:13.680 not wanting the transgender woman in the bathroom.

02:52:16.960 Because they consider that to still be a man.

02:52:21.860 Any objections there?

02:52:23.180 No, that's their preference.

02:52:25.240 Their preference?

02:52:26.020 Yeah.

02:52:26.380 Okay.

02:52:29.820 Did you answer?

02:52:31.680 Trans.

02:52:32.420 Oh, yeah.

02:52:33.160 I'd still choose a human.

02:52:35.100 Oh, okay.

02:52:36.580 Yeah.

02:52:37.660 Macy, what about you?

02:52:39.320 I agree with her, and I would choose the transgender woman.

02:52:45.800 Interesting.

02:52:48.600 What would the, I mean, going back to the original bear question, does it change if it's a transgender woman?

02:52:54.760 Do you prefer the transgender woman over the, can you scoot into the table, please?

02:53:02.540 Yeah.

02:53:04.240 Oh, you're asking me?

02:53:05.600 Yeah.

02:53:05.900 Does it change your answer to the original question?

02:53:10.240 Transgender woman.

02:53:11.360 I'm scared of men.

02:53:12.160 Huh, okay.

02:53:18.520 Sorry.

02:53:19.120 What do you pick?

02:53:20.280 What was the question?

02:53:21.320 I was in the bathroom.

02:53:21.560 For the original question, transgender woman or bear?

02:53:25.700 And you're in the bathroom this time.

02:53:27.060 So if you were in the bathroom.

02:53:27.800 I don't know.

02:53:28.740 If you were in the bathroom, would you rather...

02:53:30.360 Some people don't think that that's a woman.

02:53:35.440 I don't know where you land on that, but some people don't consider that a woman, so...

02:53:40.020 Okay, that's valid.

02:53:41.840 I mean, in a bathroom, transgender woman.

02:53:48.440 Or a bear.

02:53:49.460 Or a bear.

02:53:50.640 I'm going to say transgender woman.

02:53:52.620 I don't know.

02:53:53.320 It really depends, because, like, some people, like, oh my gosh, on TikTok the other day,

02:53:58.680 I know you talked about TikTok not being a valuable source of information or whatever,

02:54:02.200 but this was actually very different.

02:54:04.420 This was a TikTok creator talking about their experience of a woman being harsh and being,

02:54:12.920 like, get the F out of the bathroom.

02:54:14.380 Like, what are you doing in here?

02:54:15.280 To be fair, they made no effort to appear, like, feminine at all.

02:54:23.060 Still very much dressed as a man.

02:54:24.680 Still very much, like, presented as a man.

02:54:30.620 So, like, yeah.

02:54:32.260 So, they're not a woman, then?

02:54:33.440 If they don't dress like a woman?

02:54:35.880 I mean, you're not even, like, attempting to present as a woman?

02:54:38.360 Yeah.

02:54:39.140 Like, you're just sitting there doing what?

02:54:41.480 Nothing.

02:54:43.100 So, if I'm not transgender, but I present like a woman, does that make me a woman?

02:54:50.600 I mean, no.

02:54:51.680 So, it's clearly, it's not how you present that simply makes you a woman.

02:54:59.100 No.

02:55:00.120 You're good.

02:55:01.060 Okay.

02:55:01.680 But at least that would make people more comfortable and at least give the illusion that, you know,

02:55:07.680 not give the illusion, but, you know, give the, I don't know what the right word is, but...

02:55:14.620 The visual cue?

02:55:15.140 Yeah.

02:55:15.940 Yeah.

02:55:16.700 Okay.

02:55:16.860 It'll signal to other people that you're at least trying to, like, go that route.

02:55:22.640 And my mind is really going blank right now.

02:55:28.540 Okay.

02:55:29.740 Well, I'm going to move off of that part, but so a couple more scenarios here.

02:55:34.100 You're on the top floor of a burning building, and the only way you can get down is to, the

02:55:41.420 elevators are still working.

02:55:42.480 I know they say to take the stairs, but you're going to take, there's two elevators.

02:55:46.520 They both open at the same time.

02:55:48.260 One has a man in it.

02:55:49.320 The other has a bear.

02:55:51.180 You need to get to the bottom floor.

02:55:53.060 You can only pick one elevator.

02:55:54.280 Which elevator do you pick?

02:55:56.120 Oh, question.

02:55:56.740 Can I just jump off the building?

02:55:58.700 Oh, my gosh.

02:55:59.480 Nope.

02:56:00.760 You have to pick, you got to pick...

02:56:02.300 The man.

02:56:03.100 Oh, who's next?

02:56:03.760 The man.

02:56:04.240 You got to pick...

02:56:05.240 This is only for the people who answered dare, so what do you pick?

02:56:08.820 You got to pick one.

02:56:13.440 I still pick the bear.

02:56:16.460 In closed space, okay.

02:56:17.900 I pick the man.

02:56:18.760 What about you?

02:56:19.440 In closed space, yeah, I'm picking the man.

02:56:21.680 Okay.

02:56:22.400 In this scenario, I would choose the man, too, because I know for a fact that once I reach

02:56:26.540 the bottom floor, I'm able to get out, and there will be civilization if the man tries

02:56:31.820 to do anything.

02:56:32.600 I suppose he could still try to do something, but...

02:56:35.020 Yeah, if he has a 60% chance, right?

02:56:38.100 There's a 60% chance he holds on to you, right, using your logic earlier.

02:56:42.240 But there's some civilization down there, right?

02:56:43.200 It's a burning building, so I'm hoping the firefighters arrived, right?

02:56:46.300 I guess my other question, I think one of the TTSs has actually made it already, but

02:56:51.700 why is it then, when it comes to this man-bear thing, if you go to a zoo that has a bear

02:56:58.220 enclosure, why aren't all the women just jumping into the bear enclosure to get away from all

02:57:02.860 the men that are in the zoo?

02:57:05.460 If it's safer to be with a bear than with a man.

02:57:09.640 And why are bears required to be in closures if they're...

02:57:13.660 So harmless?

02:57:14.640 So harmless, at least in comparison to men.

02:57:17.320 Whereas men are free to walk the streets, how dare they?

02:57:20.180 I think if you're isolated...

02:57:22.580 I think this is a different scenario once again, you know?

02:57:24.460 You're saying man or bear in the middle of the woods where no one is around.

02:57:28.300 There are people around.

02:57:28.740 What if you're at the zoo, and there's nobody around, and there's a bear enclosure, and there's

02:57:34.300 just one man, and there's nobody around.

02:57:37.400 They can't hear you scream.

02:57:38.720 You're just...

02:57:39.080 I don't know if you're at a...

02:57:39.960 It's a Tuesday.

02:57:43.560 It's a not well...

02:57:45.560 It's a Tuesday.

02:57:47.100 It's not a frequently visited zoo.

02:57:49.240 This part of the zoo is, you know...

02:57:51.960 There's other more interesting parts of the zoo.

02:57:54.080 There's a tiger, a lion, the bear.

02:57:57.300 Nobody gives a...

02:57:58.080 Bears are kind of dull.

02:58:01.580 So you're alone.

02:58:04.400 There's a zoo.

02:58:05.660 There's the bear enclosure.

02:58:08.220 And then there's a man.

02:58:12.080 Why am I at the zoo alone, and why is this man at the zoo alone, too?

02:58:15.680 Wait, can I ask you a question?

02:58:17.380 How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

02:58:22.400 Terrible.

02:58:23.620 Okay.

02:58:24.840 Okay.

02:58:26.400 Let's see.

02:58:27.000 What else?

02:58:27.480 What are some of the other ones?

02:58:32.460 I don't know if there's another one.

02:58:35.520 There's the bear enclosure.

02:58:38.040 We did the bear enclosure.

02:58:39.460 I'm just curious.

02:58:41.420 Did any of you walk by any men today?

02:58:43.840 More than the past week?

02:58:44.860 How many of them attacked you?

02:58:46.520 I guess not.

02:58:48.260 None, but one cat called me while I was literally on my way to practice.

02:58:52.240 I considered just dropping my stuff, putting my shinies on right there, and just like...

02:58:56.180 What did he say?

02:58:58.140 He literally...

02:58:59.100 And it was so funny, because this guy was decked out in all pink.

02:59:02.420 Like, I'm not talking like pink.

02:59:03.920 Like, he was wearing all neon pink, from his hat, to his glasses, to his shirt, to his shorts, to his socks, to even his slides.

02:59:12.060 Wow.

02:59:12.380 And he just...

02:59:12.800 I'm getting my shinies out of my trunk, and he looks at me, and I'm just like not paying attention.

02:59:18.500 I'm walking in, and he goes...

02:59:20.920 Ay, chica!

02:59:22.460 And then he says something else that I didn't even hear.

02:59:24.940 At that point, I was already just like, okay, whatever.

02:59:28.300 I'm assuming it wasn't a white guy?

02:59:30.360 No.

02:59:30.580 He said, ay, chica.

02:59:33.400 That's it.

02:59:33.880 He was black.

02:59:34.360 Well, he looked like he was black.

02:59:35.080 Kissy, kissy, ay, chica.

02:59:36.580 Well, and then he said some other stuff, but I just didn't...

02:59:39.320 I didn't catch it.

02:59:40.600 You didn't catch it.

02:59:41.700 No.

02:59:42.180 But I walked into my gym cursing.

02:59:43.620 My coach was like, what?

02:59:44.780 You were cursing?

02:59:45.880 Who pressed your buttons?

02:59:47.080 Okay.

02:59:47.480 It's so funny to me, because...

02:59:48.180 Well, yeah, because I told him to F off, obviously.

02:59:50.940 Hmm.

02:59:51.540 Hmm.

02:59:52.540 Okay.

02:59:55.760 I'm curious, actually, on the catcalling thing, right?

02:59:57.740 So, if you could opt to never get cackled by men again, but men will never hit on you

03:00:08.020 ever again.

03:00:09.300 In other words, you would have to take all the initiative.

03:00:12.100 I'm okay with that.

03:00:12.520 I'm okay with that.

03:00:13.220 You'll never be approached again.

03:00:14.740 You'll never get attention from men again.

03:00:16.680 You'll never get a DM.

03:00:18.260 You'll always have to take the initiative.

03:00:20.180 You'll always have to take the lead.

03:00:21.760 Would you make that trade starting with you?

03:00:23.880 Yes.

03:00:24.520 Oh, yeah.

03:00:25.200 Okay.

03:00:25.440 Uh, no.

03:00:27.460 Yeah, 100%.

03:00:28.660 I would.

03:00:29.500 Make the trade?

03:00:30.480 Mm-mm.

03:00:31.140 No.

03:00:31.900 No.

03:00:34.020 Mm-mm.

03:00:35.140 No.

03:00:35.640 Speak?

03:00:36.100 No.

03:00:37.400 Okay.

03:00:38.560 Uh, okay.

03:00:40.600 Yeah.

03:00:41.000 In different countries, like, in Costa Rica, it's so...

03:00:45.560 Like, if you don't get catcalled, it's kind of like, dang, do I look good today?

03:00:48.960 Like, when my mom first came here from Costa Rica, um, she was like, Costa Rica.

03:00:55.060 No one, no one's, like, saying anything to me.

03:00:57.040 Like, this is real.

03:00:59.940 So, I think it honestly just depends in the countries, because I feel like people from

03:01:04.980 different countries might like it, and then here, they don't.

03:01:09.120 Um, so, for those of you who said, uh, you would switch up, I think it was you, you, not

03:01:17.560 you, you, um, I want to see how you would approach a guy, so...

03:01:22.340 Oh, my God.

03:01:24.100 I mean, unless you're just, because, here's the thing, you will never receive any, like,

03:01:28.300 initial attention from men moving forward, so, like, hold on, I'll let you raise your

03:01:34.400 thing later.

03:01:35.420 So, unless you just intend to never get married, never have a boyfriend, never have kids, maybe

03:01:43.040 that's your intention, but you will have to make the initial move, so I'd like for

03:01:46.040 you to...

03:01:46.600 Here, I'll be the guy.

03:01:47.660 No, I'll be the guy.

03:01:48.700 What?

03:01:48.980 No, no, no.

03:01:49.540 She probably did too.

03:01:50.120 No, I have to be the guy.

03:01:51.060 What?

03:01:51.280 Why do you have to be the guy?

03:01:51.860 Because I'm the guy.

03:01:52.420 He is a man.

03:01:52.980 She has to be attracted to the guy.

03:01:55.060 Well, that's...

03:01:55.460 Well, that's...

03:01:55.980 Well, that's...

03:01:57.980 Well, just pretend I'm, just pretend I'm, like, a feminist soy boy.

03:02:02.260 Okay, go ahead.

03:02:03.040 I cannot.

03:02:04.600 I cannot.

03:02:05.740 Just pretend I'm a feminist soy boy.

03:02:08.800 I believe in you.

03:02:09.560 I believe in you.

03:02:10.180 No.

03:02:11.500 No.

03:02:12.160 I can't.

03:02:12.700 Okay, then don't pretend it's me, like, pretend there's a blob here, and then let's see your

03:02:17.360 game.

03:02:17.740 Go ahead.

03:02:19.340 I don't have game.

03:02:20.840 Yeah.

03:02:21.600 So, you're going to just die?

03:02:22.980 A nun, basically.

03:02:24.280 You just never have kids.

03:02:25.480 Well, you said he wanted to get married.

03:02:27.000 Mm-hmm.

03:02:27.420 Do you want kids?

03:02:30.420 Yes.

03:02:31.340 So, how are you going to make that happen?

03:02:34.280 When he's the right man, it'll work out.

03:02:36.800 It's just, I can't do it with Brian.

03:02:39.200 You don't have to do it with me.

03:02:40.420 You can just speak it into the mind.

03:02:41.220 No, I just can't do it in this scenario, but once it's the right guy, I'll approach him.

03:02:45.880 Yeah, what would you say?

03:02:47.400 Mm-hmm.

03:02:48.400 Hey, dude.

03:02:49.840 You're boring.

03:02:50.760 Hey there, you coming here often?

03:02:53.180 Got it.

03:02:53.700 What else?

03:02:54.340 That's it?

03:02:55.120 And then you just expect him to carry the rest of everything forever?

03:02:59.700 Mm-hmm.

03:03:00.640 There you go.

03:03:01.680 I mean, this is kind of the attitude of most women.

03:03:03.640 Yeah.

03:03:03.920 That's crazy.

03:03:04.640 It's true.

03:03:04.920 Just, there's this dating app called Bumble.

03:03:08.540 They actually had to change it because the mere fact that you had to send the first message

03:03:12.820 was so overwhelming for women that they just had to change it.

03:03:17.320 It was, women were overwhelmed by the burden.

03:03:20.080 That's what they called it.

03:03:20.800 The burden of sending the first message and somebody who was on this, as somebody who was

03:03:25.280 on this dating app, women overwhelmingly would just say hi or hey, and then immediately

03:03:30.580 push all the burden right back onto you as the man.

03:03:34.300 And so even this dating app, which is about female empowerment and giving women the opportunity

03:03:40.020 to take charge, even when the rules of the dating app, like the men cannot message first,

03:03:46.480 you women still can't do it.

03:03:48.820 You still can't do it.

03:03:50.480 It's still a burden for you to even do a token level of initiative.

03:03:54.880 You just say, hey, and then immediately, boom, everything else just falls right back into

03:04:00.380 the man's lap.

03:04:01.140 It's interesting how that works.

03:04:02.320 Well, I was kidding.

03:04:02.980 I would say, hey, dude.

03:04:04.300 And then make conversation with them and see where it goes all from there.

03:04:08.180 I don't know.

03:04:08.580 Like throughout this conversation, your answers are pretty yes, yes, no.

03:04:15.540 I'm not very confident in your conversational ability.

03:04:19.300 No, when it's the right guy.

03:04:21.020 When it's the right guy.

03:04:22.880 But what makes you the right woman?

03:04:24.840 I don't know.

03:04:26.400 That's compelling.

03:04:27.400 Who knows?

03:04:28.680 Who knows?

03:04:29.640 Super good faith answer.

03:04:31.560 Just a mystery.

03:04:36.360 What about you?

03:04:37.080 Let's hear it.

03:04:37.560 Run some game.

03:04:38.660 Oh, shoot, man.

03:04:40.500 I don't really got no game.

03:04:42.020 Is there space for you to scoot your chair like way into the table?

03:04:44.620 Yeah, a little.

03:04:44.920 Is this close enough?

03:04:46.100 At the mic?

03:04:46.720 The chair.

03:04:47.100 No, I mean, just scoot your chair in so you don't have to lean in so much.

03:04:50.020 Well, I tried before, but I have a feeling that I kind of, oh, thank you, ladies.

03:04:53.180 They got you.

03:04:54.440 They got you.

03:04:55.560 Love the girl support.

03:04:57.320 All right.

03:04:57.700 Run some game.

03:04:58.520 Let's hear it.

03:04:58.920 Go ahead.

03:05:00.160 You got this.

03:05:01.360 Spit some game.

03:05:02.380 I don't got no game.

03:05:03.280 I'd probably just approach them like a normal person and be like, hi, my name is Ginny.

03:05:07.700 It depends on the setting.

03:05:09.040 I guess if we're like, oh, Trader Joe's.

03:05:11.740 Okay, okay, okay.

03:05:12.500 I've never been there.

03:05:13.280 Same.

03:05:14.480 Then, honestly, I'd still probably just walk up to them and be like, hi, my name is Gin.

03:05:19.140 I think you're really attractive.

03:05:21.300 I would like to see if we have or could have a good connection.

03:05:26.580 Can I get your phone number or can we set something up?

03:05:30.020 Like, I don't know, just approach them like a normal human being.

03:05:32.740 If it's at a bar, I'd probably ask if I can buy them a drink.

03:05:35.760 We can sit down and talk.

03:05:37.820 I don't know.

03:05:38.820 Or you can offer to buy their groceries.

03:05:40.900 Bro, I'd be like, you get this, I get this, and we make dinner.

03:05:44.280 Okay, okay.

03:05:47.040 I'm disappointed.

03:05:47.840 I didn't think of that.

03:05:48.100 You had something, Macy, that you wanted to.

03:05:49.960 Oh, I, like, don't even want to attract men.

03:05:53.280 That's not my goal.

03:05:54.720 That's fair.

03:05:55.540 It doesn't really apply to you, I guess.

03:05:57.440 Yeah.

03:05:58.120 Okay.

03:05:58.860 All right.

03:05:59.500 I'm going to get into some of my pre-show notes here.

03:06:01.500 Here we have, let's see, let's go to, who do we have?

03:06:06.380 Haley.

03:06:07.620 Mm-hmm.

03:06:08.200 Haley.

03:06:09.500 You said that, hold on, what's the condom story?

03:06:16.660 Oh, great.

03:06:17.180 Okay, so, um, a couple years ago, I was just, like, talking to some guy, and he, we, it was

03:06:27.220 just, like, just, we couldn't really put a label to, he didn't really want to, he just

03:06:31.500 told me, hey, I'm loyal, da-da-da-da-da, but I had another person in my ear, like, say,

03:06:36.280 no, he's not loyal, he's not, he's doing this, da-da-da-da-da, but I had never had any

03:06:39.440 proof, and for me, I struggle with trust, so I really need to visually see it or know

03:06:45.300 it, and I can't take, hear from other people, I need to get the evidence from the person

03:06:49.460 themselves, and I had, went over to his place and found, like, a used condom on his ground

03:06:54.820 under his pillow, and I was, like, the pillow was, like, on the ground.

03:07:00.460 That's fucking disgusting.

03:07:01.900 Yeah, it was.

03:07:03.440 And it was crazy, because we had, I'm wondering, like, how long it's been there, because we

03:07:07.380 went to, like, the dog shelter all day, like, it was just insane, and so he was out playing

03:07:14.280 the game or whatever with his friends, and I was just doing homework, and still, like,

03:07:19.180 to this day, I have such trust issues from that, because he told me it was from a trash

03:07:25.720 bag that he had, like, put old clothes and stuff in, in his closet from when he moved

03:07:30.020 out, like, eight or nine months prior, and he was randomly going through it that day,

03:07:34.120 and it must have fallen out, and he didn't see it, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and

03:07:36.660 it was, like, it really messed me up, like, emotionally.

03:07:39.600 Were you guys using condoms?

03:07:43.680 Oh, no.

03:07:47.640 So he can't explain it the way that way.

03:07:50.780 Uh-uh.

03:07:51.360 Yeah.

03:07:53.300 Yeah.

03:07:54.500 Yeah, he's cheating on you.

03:07:56.420 Yeah.

03:07:57.140 Till this day, he still denies it.

03:07:58.980 Till this day, I don't talk to him anymore.

03:08:00.440 You know what?

03:08:00.780 I actually believe him.

03:08:01.240 I could pull him up, and he'd deny it.

03:08:02.620 What?

03:08:03.000 Oh, come on, Brian.

03:08:03.740 Hey, there's mystery condoms.

03:08:05.200 Hey, it happens.

03:08:06.460 Come on.

03:08:07.020 You've seen, I've seen mystery condoms.

03:08:08.120 Thrown into a trash bag months later.

03:08:09.760 Okay, actually, for eight months to be fair.

03:08:10.920 Okay, then he's just gross.

03:08:12.480 Then he's just gross.

03:08:14.120 I found one in my car that my ex's friend had left, because unbeknownst to me, they

03:08:20.300 looked in my car.

03:08:22.700 Ew.

03:08:23.440 Yeah, that's pretty scary.

03:08:24.180 Ew.

03:08:24.400 What?

03:08:24.980 That's fucking disgusting.

03:08:25.380 Okay, to be fair, we were pretty drunk a good portion of the weekend, so I could have

03:08:31.500 said yes and just don't remember it, but I feel like I would never say yes to someone

03:08:35.440 who's not even my friend, who's my boyfriend's friend, and his girlfriend screwing in my car.

03:08:42.780 Yikes.

03:08:43.100 Speaking of condoms, if, question, let's say you were hooking up with a guy, and you were

03:08:52.640 like, you know, you were down DTF or whatever, and then you're, but you asked her, like, do

03:08:57.800 you have, like, a rubber?

03:08:58.740 Do you have a condom?

03:08:59.380 And he's like, of course, of course, of course.

03:09:03.680 And then he pulls this out.

03:09:06.080 What is that?

03:09:07.220 It's a female.

03:09:07.900 A female condom.

03:09:09.640 I've never seen one.

03:09:11.220 Can I see that?

03:09:12.180 Okay.

03:09:12.380 Put it on.

03:09:13.120 Yeah.

03:09:13.500 Put it on.

03:09:14.380 Yeah.

03:09:15.400 What's your reaction?

03:09:17.220 Wait, how do you do this?

03:09:17.960 I just put it on.

03:09:18.840 I don't, I'm confused how that even works.

03:09:20.780 The woman, it's for you.

03:09:22.260 So, yeah, but how does it even work?

03:09:23.800 You push it in there, bro.

03:09:25.500 No, it's like a plastic bag.

03:09:27.220 Yeah, where it just goes in.

03:09:28.360 Just goes in?

03:09:29.040 Yeah.

03:09:29.600 I've used one.

03:09:30.280 I've never seen that.

03:09:31.440 This is weird.

03:09:32.560 They're weird for a man.

03:09:35.040 Wait, what?

03:09:35.960 This is weird.

03:09:37.520 Weird.

03:09:39.300 Weird.

03:09:39.620 I don't like that.

03:09:40.560 You wouldn't, you wouldn't pee down?

03:09:41.880 Like, would you go for it or not?

03:09:43.240 I'd prefer that the guy has a, I'd prefer that he didn't pull out a condom like that

03:09:46.940 because, okay, the one time I did do it, he was the one who said it felt weird.

03:09:51.680 And I think that was just a him not being able to fill it out issue.

03:09:59.000 Wait, this?

03:09:59.860 Yeah.

03:10:00.420 He's not supposed to.

03:10:01.960 No, I know, but he said that was uncomfortable.

03:10:04.420 I was so confused about that.

03:10:05.280 Oh.

03:10:05.960 He was like, it's uncomfortable because I, like, don't fill it out.

03:10:08.900 And I was like, I don't see how that makes it uncomfortable, but whatever.

03:10:11.640 Sweet.

03:10:12.420 Okay, I don't know.

03:10:13.160 I just thought I'd throw that out there.

03:10:15.240 That's funny.

03:10:15.960 He's hilarious.

03:10:16.580 Anyways, going back to you, you said, anytime someone tells you they won't do certain things

03:10:21.880 for you unless you are their wife, run.

03:10:25.340 Yeah.

03:10:26.140 So, buckle up.

03:10:28.080 My relationship or whatever of the last three years, it literally, the whole three years,

03:10:33.080 it was, I'm not doing this unless you're my wife.

03:10:35.080 I'm not, we can't go to the bars.

03:10:37.220 I wasn't allowed to do his birthday party.

03:10:38.720 He strongly manipulated me and convinced me that, like, that was normal.

03:10:43.040 I can't go hang out with him and his friends, like, for his own birthday.

03:10:46.720 We have to, we had to celebrate his birthday on, like, a different day because he was supposed

03:10:50.000 to go to the bar with his friends.

03:10:51.780 I can't, like, have his location, which I was never huge into that.

03:10:55.260 It's just, he was like, nope, you can't, you're not my wife.

03:10:57.900 I will not post you until it's literally our wedding day.

03:11:00.360 I don't care how long we're dating.

03:11:01.620 Like, manipulated me.

03:11:03.280 And I'm like, I love this guy.

03:11:04.360 He's my best friend.

03:11:05.200 We've been best friends for three years.

03:11:06.580 Like, I'm getting little bits here and there.

03:11:09.360 So, I'm like, maybe it could work.

03:11:10.640 Maybe it won't.

03:11:11.820 And then we ended things this last February, March, April-ish.

03:11:17.260 And he got a new girlfriend literally a month later and did everything, post, within one month.

03:11:24.500 And he told me this.

03:11:25.760 He, we were together in the car when he was like, by the way, I'm talking to somebody else.

03:11:29.200 And was like, oh, and you know, Haley, like, it's so weird because you always said that once you find the one,

03:11:34.600 like, these are going to become, it's going to become easier.

03:11:37.620 You're going to want to do these things.

03:11:38.820 You're going to want to go out of your way to make this person feel special because that's what I did to him.

03:11:42.900 Like, I loved this guy and I still do.

03:11:44.940 He was my best friend for so long.

03:11:47.100 He laid it all out on the table and literally was like, oh, I shared my location.

03:11:52.240 It was just an accident.

03:11:52.980 But, like, literally one week of knowing her, I went to go hang out with her in Novi, the big mall over there,

03:11:57.760 and shared my location with her.

03:11:59.580 And I just didn't feel like I needed to unshare it.

03:12:01.440 And then, oh, yeah, I'm like, I've been posting on TikTok.

03:12:04.120 Like, I love you.

03:12:05.160 It took him three years to even say he loved me and he probably didn't mean it.

03:12:08.620 And within one month, he's posting this girl on social media, sharing it.

03:12:11.880 Not his wife, but, you know, so I've just, I've learned my lesson that if someone says,

03:12:16.340 I'm not going to do this unless X, Y, and Z, that they're going to do it, just not for me.

03:12:21.180 They're going to do it for somebody else that they feel more comfortable in or with.

03:12:24.160 Yeah, you were the side piece.

03:12:25.620 Oh, yeah.

03:12:26.760 Well, you were the side piece.

03:12:29.200 Well, I think the lesson learned is you need to set your boundaries and stand by them.

03:12:32.920 Oh, yeah, I never did.

03:12:34.060 I set them, but then I got little bits here and there.

03:12:37.140 Right, you bent.

03:12:37.920 And he made me believe in, but, yeah.

03:12:38.920 So this woman, most likely strong-willed, and she had requirements, and she wasn't going to bend on them.

03:12:44.440 Oh, absolutely.

03:12:44.860 So he respected her for it.

03:12:46.240 So it's a lesson learned.

03:12:47.400 I'm so sorry that happened to you.

03:12:48.840 Oh, my gosh.

03:12:49.360 I'm going to read this really quick.

03:12:50.320 Brian, you just found the perfect $15 McDonald's hamburger versus $1 steak girl.

03:12:54.920 Don't worry.

03:12:55.560 I'm sure she'll make the next man wait three months for sex.

03:12:58.940 Wait, what?

03:13:01.200 $15 McDonald's hamburger versus $1 steak girl.

03:13:04.700 Don't worry.

03:13:04.960 I'm sure she'll make the next man wait three months for sex.

03:13:08.560 Wait, what?

03:13:09.400 What does that mean?

03:13:10.000 I don't know.

03:13:10.520 I'm confused, all paladins.

03:13:13.140 I'm confused.

03:13:14.220 What do you mean?

03:13:14.940 Perfect $15 McDonald's hamburger?

03:13:17.520 Oh, my God.

03:13:19.160 Okay.

03:13:19.640 Is that a compliment?

03:13:21.420 Maybe.

03:13:21.980 I don't know.

03:13:22.520 Okay.

03:13:22.900 Well, whatever.

03:13:25.100 Going back to you, you said that I...

03:13:29.140 Hold on.

03:13:30.400 Why do men move on faster?

03:13:31.640 So, I mean, just a show of hands at the table.

03:13:34.460 Do you guys think men move on faster than women from relationships?

03:13:40.660 I think it depends.

03:13:41.760 Yeah, I think it depends.

03:13:43.860 So, just you two?

03:13:45.220 Well, in my situation, we've been emotionally not connected anymore for many, many months.

03:13:52.400 It was just that thought of, you're still my best friend.

03:13:54.980 I can't live my life without you.

03:13:56.440 But we knew the relationship was over.

03:13:57.980 We were stretching for months to make it work, just digging in for anything.

03:14:02.540 So, I think he moved on a lot quicker because while we were still together, he knew we were done.

03:14:08.680 And so, he was moving on day by day.

03:14:10.280 Like, a little bit.

03:14:11.260 He was seeing things.

03:14:12.080 I was seeing things.

03:14:12.900 We weren't communicating.

03:14:13.840 We weren't...

03:14:14.480 We were just arguing.

03:14:15.300 So, he was moving on while we were still together.

03:14:17.380 And I was still hanging on to that hope of, one day, one day he'll do this.

03:14:21.080 One day he'll do that.

03:14:22.040 Because I got a little bit here and there.

03:14:23.980 And I clinged on to that.

03:14:25.760 Like, any red flag that came my way.

03:14:27.740 I was like, no, but remember that one time he did that one thing.

03:14:30.720 I was just really, like, hanging on to that.

03:14:32.500 And so, I think in my situation, he moved on quicker.

03:14:35.800 I think in some situations, maybe a man, like you said, just a side piece.

03:14:39.520 He doesn't really care about the girl.

03:14:40.560 He's going to move on quicker because he didn't have true feelings.

03:14:43.020 But I didn't move on.

03:14:44.260 Well, I think the nature of this question is assuming both people are fairly equally invested into the relationship.

03:14:52.500 No, I don't think so.

03:14:53.380 So, a man's in love.

03:14:54.360 I think women move on way faster.

03:14:56.720 They do.

03:14:57.380 Way faster.

03:14:58.520 Because even if a man does hook up with another woman, I don't think he's using that head.

03:15:03.920 It's not emotional.

03:15:05.080 It's just physical.

03:15:05.880 Yeah.

03:15:05.900 It's just a nut, basically.

03:15:09.220 Word.

03:15:09.440 And, like, and I also think that over time, they start, they, like, will miss you more over time.

03:15:19.440 And then realize it.

03:15:20.860 Afterwards, compared to a woman, we try to detach immediately.

03:15:24.180 And then over time, we actually don't have any things.

03:15:26.960 We seek validation immediately.

03:15:28.640 I think women just get checked out, like, two months before the breakup.

03:15:32.060 And then they're just planning the breakup.

03:15:33.480 That was not me.

03:15:34.840 And then by the time the breakup actually occurs, they're, I mean, sometimes there's, like, spontaneous breakups and stuff.

03:15:40.220 Here, pass me the spider back.

03:15:42.860 Got it.

03:15:43.360 Thank you.

03:15:45.940 Tick tock over here.

03:15:47.100 Tick tock brain.

03:15:49.160 Oh, a spider.

03:15:50.320 Let me.

03:15:52.020 Okay.

03:15:52.620 So, yeah.

03:15:55.320 I think, I think women move on way faster.

03:15:59.000 I actually think there's a biological reason for this, an evolutionary reason.

03:16:02.900 What is that?

03:16:03.380 Well, like, here it is.

03:16:06.200 So, historically, men would go off to war and die.

03:16:11.920 And so, and then also, I mean, even there's, like, a bit more darker, sinister component to this.

03:16:17.020 Like, back when there were, like, conquering, conquering tribes and shit, where it's basically, like, one civilization conquers another civilization.

03:16:25.460 Okay, we're going to kill all the men.

03:16:26.960 And then we're now taking your women as wives.

03:16:28.900 Conquering the wives, yeah.

03:16:30.000 So, like, women had to almost be able to, like, how do I cope with, like, that, you know?

03:16:36.760 Okay.

03:16:37.140 So, I think on that level, because their men are more likely to die in war.

03:16:42.920 And also, that component, I think there's an evolutionary basis, maybe.

03:16:47.000 That makes a little sense.

03:16:47.980 Give them some grace there.

03:16:49.440 Wait, I have a question for people.

03:16:51.200 Do you guys, since you were talking about going off war, do you guys believe a relationship should be 50-50 or no?

03:16:58.120 Let's go around the table, starting with you.

03:17:00.000 In terms of...

03:17:00.560 Yeah, I believe 50-50.

03:17:02.740 Close to 50-50.

03:17:03.820 Close to 50-50.

03:17:05.060 I think we kind of already talked about this a little bit, but, yeah, pretty close to 50-50.

03:17:09.720 I think 50-50.

03:17:10.900 I did, too, yeah.

03:17:11.740 No.

03:17:12.980 Yes.

03:17:13.380 Wait, did you say yes?

03:17:14.540 Mm-hmm.

03:17:15.040 Yes?

03:17:15.580 Yeah.

03:17:16.320 Yes.

03:17:17.440 I think men and women give, like, different parts in a relationship, so I don't think I can put it in, like, a number, because it's so different.

03:17:24.220 That's true.

03:17:25.020 I also don't have a number.

03:17:26.680 Well, do you think it should be 50-50?

03:17:28.380 I don't know.

03:17:31.980 I think people pull their weight differently.

03:17:33.960 I'll ask some clarifying questions, but...

03:17:35.620 Yeah.

03:17:36.000 I think that's unrealistic.

03:17:37.720 Yeah.

03:17:37.960 I think both people give 100%, and sometimes someone's going to give 20%, and the other person has to make up for that, and it's just a season of their relationship.

03:17:48.000 I'll come back really quick to 50-50, but I do want to read Low Paladin's chat here.

03:17:52.940 This is the gender-swapped version of a woman making a man wait for sex.

03:17:56.840 She got side-pieced, even though he was willing to give emotional commitment right away to another woman.

03:18:03.920 Well, let me preface that.

03:18:05.300 Oh, I see what you're saying.

03:18:06.380 I see what you're saying.

03:18:07.280 No, no, no.

03:18:07.740 We had an emotional connection for many years.

03:18:10.300 It was just he wasn't...

03:18:11.840 He wasn't...

03:18:12.840 I don't think I was a woman for him.

03:18:15.100 Is he ready?

03:18:15.960 Oh, go ahead.

03:18:16.820 I just personally don't think I was a woman for him, no matter how much I gave my life to him.

03:18:21.300 We didn't even have sex for the longest of time, and when we did, we were only having sex for almost two years, just each other only, and I firmly believe that was the truth on his end.

03:18:30.260 And I just knew I wasn't the right woman for him, and no matter how much I tried to make him the man for me, I was just digging my hole deeper.

03:18:38.680 And we got to the point, there were instances towards the end of our relationship where he did things, and I did things, and we just, like, we knew this was this.

03:18:46.040 No, okay, but okay, okay, hold on.

03:18:47.800 So you said that even though you guys had, like, a two- or three-year relationship, he got into a new relationship, and all the things he was withholding from you, he gave to that new girl immediately.

03:18:57.980 Okay, so to provide a bit of context,

03:18:59.900 We've had this conversation on the show a whole bunch, is about, so, like, women who have really no qualms at all with having casual sex, but when they land on a guy who they perhaps deem as, like, long-term worthy or boyfriend worthy, despite having no hang-ups when it comes to just fucking a guy immediately, they're going to make him wait, conceivably the guy who would obviously be most deserving of it.

03:19:25.300 But they'll make him wait, LTR guy, boyfriend guy wait weeks, months, longer to have sex.

03:19:32.040 So this is, like, this sort of, he's just alluding to that by saying how that would be a frustration as a woman that you dated this guy for the longest, and he didn't do any of that shit, but he's dating a new girl, and he's giving her all this?

03:19:48.480 Yeah, it's very frustrating, but that's just the lesson I learned that I should have, and I did, oh my gosh, many times I put my foot down, but it's just like...

03:19:57.360 Wait, you put your foot down how?

03:19:58.840 I, we broke up, like, when we were even just going through our talking phases, I said, I'm not, I'm not doing anything with you until there's a title, like, you need to show me your worth, and da-da-da-da-da, but I think the more we just grew as friends, that's what I was clinging on to, than just the idea of the relationship, and I was, I was mixing the two personally, but eventually, I just, I think I gave up because I knew our connection of, that we built on friends was so much stronger than any hope of a relationship to begin with.

03:20:25.780 Sure, sure, really quick, so going back to 50-50, show of hands, who said 50-50, show of hands, raise them high, raise them high, so we can see them, keep them up, boom, boom, boom, boom, ish, over here, I guess, okay, who, I want to skip you, initially, we'll come back to you, who should pay on the first date?

03:20:49.120 Whoever asks.

03:20:49.840 You're too far into the mic.

03:20:51.160 Whoever asks.

03:20:51.940 Whoever asks?

03:20:52.700 Yeah, that's a good idea.

03:20:53.440 Okay, I'll come back to whoever asks, what about you?

03:20:56.900 I'm with her on that one, whoever asks.

03:20:59.880 Whoever asks?

03:21:00.420 I agree, whoever asks.

03:21:01.820 Whoever asks?

03:21:02.820 I would say whoever asks, but in a more traditional way, I think it would probably be the man, I think is what most would say.

03:21:11.440 Who should pay?

03:21:12.260 Yes.

03:21:13.700 Well, here, let me get everybody's answer, who else is 50-50?

03:21:18.700 I am.

03:21:19.120 Who should pay?

03:21:19.600 I honestly wouldn't expect the man to pay.

03:21:23.520 Yeah.

03:21:23.780 I always bring enough money for myself, so.

03:21:26.860 Okay, so.

03:21:27.360 Don't expect.

03:21:27.840 Split the bill.

03:21:28.180 Yeah.

03:21:28.460 Don't expect.

03:21:28.800 Okay, so whoever says, whoever asks, who should ask?

03:21:33.160 I think whoever.

03:21:34.380 Starting with you.

03:21:35.080 Whoever's interested.

03:21:40.360 Like, if I'm interested in the guy, then I'll ask him.

03:21:45.020 How many times have you asked a man out?

03:21:48.080 I've only had one real boyfriend, so I never have.

03:21:50.780 Okay, so hold on.

03:21:52.740 Well, let me get everybody's answers.

03:21:55.620 Yeah, I agree with her.

03:21:56.660 You guys are just going to be sheep and just agree with her?

03:22:00.660 No, no, it's not being a sheep.

03:22:02.360 It's just because, yeah, whoever's interested, you should have.

03:22:05.200 Who should ask?

03:22:06.180 You should have the confidence to have.

03:22:07.980 Okay, so who should ask?

03:22:11.040 Traditionally, yes, it would be the man, but I think that anyone can ask.

03:22:16.200 I've asked and I've paid, so.

03:22:18.040 It's whoever's interested.

03:22:19.260 I've actually only ever asked guys on dates.

03:22:21.080 I've never personally been asked out on a date.

03:22:23.360 I've only ever asked guys.

03:22:24.760 Stop the cap.

03:22:27.060 Swear to God.

03:22:27.980 I don't, have you ever been on the dating app?

03:22:30.280 Back, like, freshman year, but I've never, ever, ever gone on dates with those guys.

03:22:33.620 So every single date, every single date you've been on, you asked the guy?

03:22:37.340 The last three years, the only date I was with that guy.

03:22:38.760 First date, I'm talking first date.

03:22:40.460 You can't count.

03:22:41.560 I've been dating a guy for three months, and I asked him out on a date.

03:22:44.540 That does not count.

03:22:45.380 I've never had, like, flings of relationships or hookups.

03:22:48.160 I've only ever dated or on and off with that guy for three years, and I've asked.

03:22:51.920 I'm the one that pursued him.

03:22:52.840 So you made the first move?

03:22:53.580 Yes, I pursued him at the bar, and that's what he said.

03:22:57.240 The one thing he's always loved about me was he's never had a female that's went and pursued a man, and that's what he liked.

03:23:01.920 Of all the guys you've been on a date with, did they ask or did you?

03:23:08.100 They ask.

03:23:09.180 How many dates have you been on?

03:23:10.100 I haven't gone on, like, real dates, but people will just, like, because I usually say, like, no, but they've always asked me.

03:23:18.040 Of all the dates you've been on?

03:23:19.380 I've never even gone on, like, a real date.

03:23:21.180 Just hang out, kick it, whatever.

03:23:24.080 They've asked.

03:23:25.000 Every single time.

03:23:27.840 And what about all the dates you haven't gone on or hangouts you haven't done, but you've been asked?

03:23:34.180 What about that?

03:23:35.340 How many, how many, okay, so how many first dates do you think you've been on?

03:23:39.220 I'm going to say dates.

03:23:39.960 We'll include just casual, kick it, hang out.

03:23:42.840 Like, two.

03:23:44.560 Two.

03:23:44.900 So, in those two, the guy asked?

03:23:46.680 Yeah.

03:23:47.180 And then have you been asked by a guy to kick it, but you said no?

03:23:51.380 Yeah.

03:23:51.840 Have you ever asked a guy to kick it, and they said no?

03:23:54.620 No.

03:23:55.440 Okay.

03:23:55.920 But you've never asked a guy?

03:23:57.380 No.

03:23:58.000 Okay.

03:23:58.620 What about you?

03:24:02.720 I know in high school, I definitely asked guys out.

03:24:05.580 I think more frequently now, I definitely don't.

03:24:09.120 Definitely don't?

03:24:10.800 No.

03:24:12.400 No.

03:24:12.720 Of all the first dates you've been on, who asked?

03:24:15.760 Was it the guy or you?

03:24:18.360 Of all of them, there were probably, I don't know, about two that I've been on that I've

03:24:23.260 asked.

03:24:24.000 How many dates have you been on?

03:24:25.780 First dates?

03:24:26.500 Quite a few.

03:24:27.220 How many?

03:24:28.140 10, 20, 30, 40, 50?

03:24:30.840 If we're including just, like, kick it, hang out, I feel like it's just too many to count.

03:24:34.880 Sure.

03:24:35.440 Well, how many?

03:24:37.200 20 plus, 30 plus, 40 plus, 50 plus?

03:24:39.160 Yeah, probably, like, 20 plus.

03:24:40.200 And you asked two?

03:24:42.720 No, honestly, I've probably asked more.

03:24:45.040 I just can't remember.

03:24:47.140 Okay.

03:24:48.060 What about you?

03:24:50.720 I've asked a few.

03:24:53.220 Okay.

03:24:53.780 How many first dates have you been on?

03:24:57.080 How many first dates have I been on?

03:24:59.180 Like, more than 10.

03:25:00.240 Huh?

03:25:00.560 Like, more than 10.

03:25:01.600 More than 10?

03:25:02.400 Mm-hmm.

03:25:02.960 Okay.

03:25:03.320 Of all those who initiated it, you or the guy?

03:25:08.940 Usually the guys.

03:25:10.020 Usually the guys?

03:25:10.860 What about you?

03:25:11.820 Oh, well, you already answered.

03:25:13.440 Well, I've only had, yeah, I've only really had three first dates.

03:25:15.800 I don't casually date anybody.

03:25:17.240 It's when I'm in a relationship with them.

03:25:19.060 And I mean, my first one was high school boyfriend, probably mutual.

03:25:22.480 Well, this whole thing on, like, whoever asks should pay, none of you ask, really.

03:25:35.180 You'll do it once, twice, whatever.

03:25:37.420 But, I mean, your answer might as well be men, especially in your case, right?

03:25:42.440 You said you've never asked a guy out?

03:25:44.960 Nope.

03:25:45.340 Yeah.

03:25:47.920 So, but your answer was whoever asks should pay.

03:25:51.620 If I asked, I would pay.

03:25:52.440 So, what you're saying is, of all the times you've hung out, did any of these hangouts

03:25:57.120 include the man paying for a meal?

03:25:58.860 Yeah.

03:26:00.400 How is that?

03:26:01.220 You said you've never been on a date.

03:26:03.800 I'm just, or you said two, or?

03:26:07.120 Do these hangouts include food?

03:26:09.020 Yeah.

03:26:09.580 But you don't consider that on a date?

03:26:11.640 No.

03:26:11.920 Do you meet at the food place and eat at the food place?

03:26:14.780 No.

03:26:15.920 So, you get to go food and you eat it at his place?

03:26:18.760 No, they just pick me up and we eat in the car.

03:26:21.380 Oh.

03:26:21.860 You eat in the car?

03:26:22.860 That's why I'm saying I've never been on a real, it's like more of like, I can't put

03:26:27.540 it in terms of like a dating stance because it's more like just hanging out with, I guess,

03:26:32.900 distant friends that I haven't got with in a long time.

03:26:35.760 Okay.

03:26:36.060 But in those cases, like, they always pay.

03:26:38.360 So, 50-50 then?

03:26:42.680 I can put it in this sense.

03:26:43.900 When I was with my boyfriend, I would pay.

03:26:48.040 Like, sometimes I would pay, sometimes he would pay.

03:26:51.800 Right.

03:26:52.280 But how do you get into a relationship?

03:26:54.840 Isn't there like an initial dating stage?

03:26:57.140 He asked me.

03:26:58.320 Yeah.

03:26:58.680 Yeah.

03:26:58.880 But how can all of you who said like 50-50, it seems overwhelmingly the case that you're

03:27:07.220 looking to men to take initiative.

03:27:08.760 So, how could it possibly be 50-50?

03:27:10.940 Right.

03:27:11.160 Because they're the ones asking.

03:27:13.660 It's not going to be trying to pursue them.

03:27:15.420 But nothing is preventing you from equally contributing to a start of a relationship by,

03:27:20.820 oh, that guy's attractive.

03:27:22.180 Let me approach him.

03:27:24.400 Let me make the first move.

03:27:25.520 Let me ask for his number.

03:27:26.260 Let me plan the date.

03:27:27.200 Let me try to set up the date.

03:27:28.720 Let me pick the location.

03:27:30.140 Well, for me specifically, it takes a lot for me to like someone.

03:27:32.840 So, then if I do find them attractive and if I do like them, I will approach them.

03:27:37.200 That's me being interested.

03:27:38.760 And that's me asking them out on a first date.

03:27:40.600 So, then I will pay.

03:27:41.460 But there hasn't been a lot of those kinds of instances.

03:27:43.960 It was more so a man who found me attractive and he was the one who was asking me out on

03:27:49.240 a date.

03:27:52.040 Okay.

03:27:52.780 What about going for the first kiss?

03:27:54.340 More often than not, do you initiate the first kiss or does the guy?

03:27:57.160 Starting with you.

03:28:00.080 I don't know.

03:28:00.880 I feel like that's like mutual.

03:28:02.440 Like you just look at each other and you're like, okay.

03:28:05.140 It's not, it's rarely mutual.

03:28:07.280 But I think so.

03:28:09.040 Like, I guess in my case, but again, I don't have that many.

03:28:12.100 So, you're saying it's just mutually like you both at the exact same instance, just.

03:28:17.660 Like you, you, you lock eyes and then you're like, oh, okay.

03:28:21.620 Like, you go, oh, okay.

03:28:23.820 Like it's kind of mutual.

03:28:24.840 The guy is going to.

03:28:26.620 Like it's kind of mutual.

03:28:27.860 Yeah.

03:28:28.480 I feel like I'm so used to guys actually asking for like consent before they kiss me.

03:28:33.240 And they're all like, can I kiss you?

03:28:34.640 And I'm just like, um, yeah, I've been sitting here leaning in, giving you flirty eyes for

03:28:39.940 the half hour.

03:28:40.760 Like, yeah.

03:28:45.000 Okay.

03:28:45.640 But I mean like.

03:28:46.260 So it's the guy then.

03:28:46.940 Um, I mean, sometimes it's the guy, but like sometimes it's also just like mutual where

03:28:51.800 we like, yeah, both lean in, but yeah, usually I'll just ask him like, well, he'll just like

03:28:57.100 ask for consent and I'm just like, yeah, okay.

03:28:59.660 Yeah.

03:28:59.940 Yeah.

03:29:00.180 Like I've been sitting here waiting and sometimes I just kind of, but so, but so you already

03:29:05.180 made the determination that you wanted to kiss the man.

03:29:07.500 So shouldn't you have done it?

03:29:09.780 Yeah.

03:29:10.360 And I guess that's the point where like I could also ask.

03:29:13.300 Not 50, 50.

03:29:14.440 Okay.

03:29:14.660 What about you?

03:29:15.560 Mine's been 50, 50.

03:29:16.840 You're 50, 50.

03:29:18.660 You won't initiate, but you'll go for the kiss.

03:29:20.960 No, I have initiated.

03:29:22.180 You'll initiate the kiss?

03:29:23.440 Mm-hmm.

03:29:24.220 You ask for permission or you just go for it?

03:29:26.380 Of course.

03:29:28.380 Okay.

03:29:28.880 What about you?

03:29:29.580 I've initiated before.

03:29:31.000 Yeah.

03:29:31.360 Okay.

03:29:31.960 I mean, if I'm interested in that person, I'm not trying to play games or wait around or drop

03:29:36.520 the hints.

03:29:36.800 Okay, of all the times you've kissed somebody, who initiated the kiss?

03:29:40.040 The man.

03:29:41.140 The man.

03:29:42.780 The man.

03:29:43.840 The man.

03:29:44.540 The man.

03:29:46.100 Macy.

03:29:46.880 How about you, Brian?

03:29:48.320 The man.

03:29:49.100 The man.

03:29:50.000 Yeah, the man.

03:29:52.320 I want to say 99% of the time I've initiated it, yeah.

03:29:56.640 I love that.

03:29:57.420 There's maybe been one time where the girl went for it, I think, but otherwise.

03:30:02.080 By the way, welcome, Andrew Wilson.

03:30:03.980 What is going on with your background, sir?

03:30:05.880 Holy shit.

03:30:07.800 Oh, I can't see you guys.

03:30:09.620 Oh.

03:30:10.020 Oh, you've got to start virtual cam.

03:30:11.920 Sorry about that, Andrew.

03:30:14.180 Welcome, welcome, Andrew.

03:30:15.120 Good to see you.

03:30:15.840 Good to see you.

03:30:16.480 You too.

03:30:17.020 Do you want to just give yourself a quick intro?

03:30:19.580 Yeah.

03:30:19.940 My name is Andrew Wilson.

03:30:21.160 I'm the host of the Crucible, the fastest growing debate channel on YouTube.

03:30:24.980 To my knowledge, I'm a political analyst, a political satirist, and I enjoy engaging in

03:30:29.860 debates occasionally.

03:30:30.660 All right.

03:30:32.040 Good to have you, Andrew.

03:30:33.000 I'm going to finish up some of my pre-show notes here.

03:30:36.280 So, let's see.

03:30:38.260 Going back to Haley, we were talking about, why do men move on?

03:30:41.740 So, move on faster.

03:30:43.200 We already talked about that.

03:30:45.380 You wanted to, how to get that bad bitch energy back without being scared or worried about

03:30:50.880 what others think.

03:30:53.400 In my defense, I was babysitting, and the 12-year-old was like telling me kind of what

03:30:57.040 to say a little bit.

03:30:57.980 I don't remember sexing that.

03:31:00.400 Yeah, I struggle.

03:31:01.580 I mean, she can contest to it, but I struggle a lot now with my confidence and a lot of insecurities

03:31:05.960 and trust issues.

03:31:06.760 So, I just kind of want to have that, like, I want to be able to walk down the street and

03:31:10.040 not have to care what every single person is thinking of me, even though they're probably

03:31:12.440 not looking at me.

03:31:13.400 Or, you know, like, oh, what if I post this?

03:31:15.240 What's someone going to say?

03:31:16.240 I just want to do it for me.

03:31:17.900 Live my life.

03:31:18.680 I'm young and single.

03:31:20.520 And, I mean, just focus on myself, my career, and just not care what others are thinking.

03:31:24.240 I just want to get that energy back.

03:31:25.860 All right.

03:31:26.280 And then, I guess moving on, you said that, what is everyone's thoughts of going into

03:31:31.220 a new relationship and sharing your past with that person?

03:31:34.740 Should you be open about your past, or is it not their business?

03:31:38.160 So, is this, like, related to body count, essentially?

03:31:42.220 I would say a little bit, yeah.

03:31:43.860 I'm just curious as to, because that was in my situation with my relationship.

03:31:48.680 He held my past over me, constantly never forgave me for it, even though when I, like, made

03:31:54.200 decisions, I made them, like, pretty dumb and everything.

03:31:57.580 I just am curious as to when you get into new relationships, is that something you're

03:32:00.820 supposed to disclose?

03:32:01.820 Like, oh, by the way, X, Y, and Z, I did five years ago.

03:32:05.160 Or, is that only when it gets, like, brought up in the conversation?

03:32:08.400 I'm just, I've always heard one end be completely open and honest and lay it all out on the table

03:32:13.160 day one or whatever.

03:32:14.220 And then, I've also heard it's not their business.

03:32:15.860 Keep it to yourself.

03:32:16.560 Like, if it gets brought up, be truthful and be honest, but you don't need to go spill

03:32:21.400 the beans on your past.

03:32:22.600 It's just, it's your past.

03:32:23.720 Keep it there.

03:32:25.920 Just curious on everyone else's viewpoint on that.

03:32:28.840 I would agree if somebody asks you a direct question, be honest.

03:32:33.480 If it's topical and relevant.

03:32:36.120 But if you're just spilling the beans, it can be off-putting.

03:32:41.760 Here's how I'll frame it.

03:32:42.980 Here's how I'm going to frame it to the panel.

03:32:44.240 Now, is it okay for a woman to lie to a new partner about her body count?

03:32:54.540 Absolutely not.

03:32:55.700 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

03:32:57.600 Be honest.

03:32:59.580 No.

03:33:00.740 I think resounding no's.

03:33:03.000 Wait, Andrew, one request.

03:33:06.640 Can you turn those LEDs on?

03:33:10.220 It's very, I know you're patriotic, Andrew.

03:33:13.020 I like them.

03:33:13.040 I know the blue.

03:33:14.020 I know you love the French.

03:33:16.560 I know you're a fan of the French, Andrew.

03:33:19.240 Is it possible?

03:33:19.940 I mean, this is not white like all of the flags your country has always made.

03:33:23.640 So.

03:33:26.040 Why you got to bring it there?

03:33:27.500 Andrew, why you got to do that to me, man?

03:33:31.360 Yeah, I'll turn them off.

03:33:32.380 Thank you, thank you.

03:33:32.860 You can take me off the screen for a second and I'll turn them off.

03:33:35.820 Thank you, Andrew.

03:33:36.280 Sorry.

03:33:37.400 Sorry.

03:33:37.860 Sorry.

03:33:38.240 Sorry.

03:33:38.260 Okay.

03:33:39.680 Kehlani?

03:33:41.240 Kehlani.

03:33:41.760 Kehlani.

03:33:43.440 You said, one time I had my friend add my now ex-boyfriend on Snapchat.

03:33:50.880 Oh, okay.

03:33:51.320 No, hold on.

03:33:51.720 I'm going to skip that one.

03:33:53.000 Yeah.

03:33:54.460 Let's see.

03:33:58.720 How to know.

03:34:00.180 Oh, you wanted to talk about who has more power in society, men or women?

03:34:05.240 Yeah, I do.

03:34:06.120 Who do you, why don't you start off?

03:34:08.340 Who do you think?

03:34:12.260 Honestly, I think women have a lot of power towards a man, but I think the man should have

03:34:20.020 the power over all because the man is the leader.

03:34:24.880 In society or in a relationship or both?

03:34:29.760 I guess both, actually, both.

03:34:32.200 I mean, for me personally.

03:34:33.500 Okay.

03:34:33.800 I think the man should have.

03:34:36.480 Hot take there from her.

03:34:37.280 I think the man should have the power, but.

03:34:39.300 In society, because the question was, who has more power in society, men or women?

03:34:44.020 Do you think it's women, but men should?

03:34:46.520 Mm-hmm.

03:34:48.880 Was that an acknowledgement of my statement?

03:34:51.240 Yeah, no, no.

03:34:51.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:34:52.600 So you think women have more power in society, but men should have more power?

03:34:56.820 I think it just depends because I think a woman has a lot of power because with a man,

03:35:02.540 for example, like if you think of a pastor and his wife, no one sees like the struggles

03:35:10.240 that's going on, but the wife still helps him.

03:35:13.680 So I think women have a lot of power when it comes to like persuading men in ways to

03:35:20.980 get what they want, if that makes sense.

03:35:23.600 So like, okay, I see what you're saying.

03:35:25.040 Uh, going around the table, agree, disagree with what she thinks, who has more power in

03:35:31.500 society, men or women?

03:35:33.560 Um, I think men definitely have more power in society, although I feel like it should

03:35:39.140 be more equal.

03:35:41.420 More equal?

03:35:42.200 Okay.

03:35:42.700 All right.

03:35:43.040 What do you think?

03:35:44.400 Um, I think men have more power in society, but it's for sure like more women are starting

03:35:49.700 to be appreciated now, like, like towards equal power, at least.

03:35:54.680 Yeah.

03:35:54.840 Mm-hmm.

03:35:55.540 I agree.

03:35:57.980 Yeah.

03:35:58.400 I agree as well.

03:35:59.780 I think it's definitely still a bit male dominated, but you know, women are kind of sliding in

03:36:05.980 there, I guess.

03:36:07.000 Mm-hmm.

03:36:08.220 Yeah.

03:36:08.520 For now, men still have a lot more power.

03:36:10.620 Men have more power.

03:36:11.600 I agree.

03:36:11.780 I don't see how men have more power than women, but I, it's, it's becoming more equal

03:36:19.400 now to me, I think.

03:36:20.640 Mm-hmm.

03:36:21.380 Well, sort of.

03:36:22.800 I think it's pretty much equal.

03:36:24.680 Equal?

03:36:25.140 Okay.

03:36:25.380 I also agree on that.

03:36:26.580 You agree on what?

03:36:27.980 That it's like inching towards like more equal, but I would say men would have more power

03:36:34.120 usually.

03:36:34.780 Okay.

03:36:35.720 I'm a bit unclear.

03:36:37.120 It's like, are we saying men are in positions of power?

03:36:39.880 So their leadership roles, I think men should be in leadership roles.

03:36:44.920 Yeah.

03:36:45.080 So I don't see an issue with it.

03:36:46.620 I think women are the gatekeepers to life and they hold a lot of power and have influence

03:36:52.720 over men.

03:36:53.580 Mm-hmm.

03:36:55.960 I don't know if that answered anything.

03:37:00.760 Okay.

03:37:01.440 What do you think, Brian?

03:37:02.100 Uh, well, as an egalitarian, I think, I don't think that men have more power.

03:37:16.060 Yeah.

03:37:16.400 I think we have a gynocentric society.

03:37:18.680 I think women have more power than men and, uh, women have more rights than men too.

03:37:24.340 Mm-hmm.

03:37:24.640 You got more rights.

03:37:26.240 More rights.

03:37:27.000 You seem to disagree.

03:37:29.020 You dis, do you disagree?

03:37:29.940 Mm-hmm.

03:37:31.500 On the rights thing?

03:37:32.860 Housing.

03:37:33.800 Do you disagree on the rights thing?

03:37:35.500 I do, but no comment.

03:37:37.400 Well, so what rights does a woman have?

03:37:41.980 Or excuse me, what rights does a man have that a woman does not?

03:37:46.980 No comment.

03:37:47.780 I mean, come on, you got to engage here.

03:37:52.580 You're just not going to engage?

03:37:54.440 The right, the right to not comment?

03:37:58.560 Is that, is that, is that the right, the right to not comment?

03:38:02.060 Is that a right that women have that men don't have?

03:38:03.700 Is the right to not comment?

03:38:06.260 No, but I'm saying I don't want to comment on this right now.

03:38:10.520 Why, why is that?

03:38:13.600 Just no comment.

03:38:14.700 I just disagree, but no comment.

03:38:16.320 So you're not prepared to actually defend your position because you're...

03:38:19.780 Well, I just disagree with your disagreement, and I disagree with you not commenting.

03:38:24.420 So I disagree with that.

03:38:26.060 Okay, but I still...

03:38:27.280 Yeah, Dano, but I still want you to.

03:38:30.180 I'm still commenting.

03:38:30.580 So since we're just making assertions about asserting things, then I disagree with your

03:38:35.420 disagreement, and you don't want to, but I want you to.

03:38:38.280 So I don't, I don't know, I don't know where that leaves us.

03:38:41.100 If you disagree, can you tell us why you disagree?

03:38:44.460 Huh?

03:38:46.320 What's that?

03:38:47.880 I just said it's just me not commenting.

03:38:50.840 Oh.

03:38:51.400 Well, you did comment by saying you disagree, but...

03:38:53.920 Right.

03:38:55.040 I...

03:38:55.480 How?

03:38:56.520 I just disagree.

03:38:58.140 But, okay, so you disagree because you do think that there would be something that points

03:39:03.720 to men having more rights to women, and I'm simply asking you, which ones?

03:39:10.340 No comment.

03:39:15.120 That's not how you have a conversation with somebody.

03:39:18.460 Let me think on this for a second, but no comment for now.

03:39:21.320 I don't...

03:39:22.560 I mean...

03:39:26.020 Do you want...

03:39:28.120 How long do you want?

03:39:30.420 I don't know, but no comment for now.

03:39:34.460 You can't...

03:39:35.580 You need to think about it?

03:39:37.200 You're able to disagree with it immediately, but...

03:39:39.240 I'll provide an example.

03:39:40.800 Chris donated 200美元.

03:39:42.700 She doesn't want to explain her disagreement because she is a coward who cannot defend her own positions.

03:39:51.260 These bimbos are pathetic, and there is reason they shouldn't be in charge.

03:39:55.660 Thank you, Chris.

03:40:00.240 True sexist.

03:40:01.460 Okay.

03:40:04.740 Cool, I guess.

03:40:05.840 Thank you, Chris, for that.

03:40:07.200 That was...

03:40:07.720 That was a good one.

03:40:08.660 Thank you, Chris.

03:40:09.220 200 Zakaipiru 29 donated 200 dollars.

03:40:14.320 A man that has experienced dating and isn't a synth can tell when a lady has a high body count nothing to do is vague,

03:40:20.540 but it's obvious the way the way they carry themselves and why they are approaching.

03:40:26.380 Okay.

03:40:27.240 Sorry, I got to change it back to English.

03:40:28.980 I'm sorry, bro.

03:40:30.620 I'm sorry.

03:40:32.760 Well, you've had about a minute there to meditate on it.

03:40:36.400 Do you want to take a crack at...

03:40:38.400 I don't think women have more rights than men because that's what you initially said, correct?

03:40:44.680 That is what you said, right?

03:40:46.560 Mm-hmm.

03:40:47.320 So what...

03:40:48.320 Let me flip this question on to you, then.

03:40:50.100 I disagree with that, okay?

03:40:53.260 What kinds of women...

03:40:54.600 What kinds of rights do women have that men don't have?

03:40:57.220 Well, hold on, but...

03:40:59.380 Wait, wait, wait.

03:40:59.780 That's what you said, though, right?

03:41:00.860 That women have more rights than men, and that's what you said.

03:41:03.580 Sure.

03:41:03.840 So I disagree with that.

03:41:05.400 Hold on.

03:41:05.740 I'll answer your question if you answer mine first, since I posed it to you first.

03:41:10.320 Okay, yeah.

03:41:10.560 I disagree.

03:41:11.260 I don't...

03:41:11.580 I think men and women have the same amount of rights.

03:41:15.340 I don't think that women have more rights than men.

03:41:17.620 No, but initially...

03:41:18.100 Because that's what you said.

03:41:19.180 Right, but initially you said that...

03:41:21.180 If I recall, I could be slightly mistaken here.

03:41:24.440 You did seem to imply that there are rights that men possess that women don't.

03:41:29.500 When did I imply that?

03:41:31.620 You stated that.

03:41:33.100 Yeah, when you...

03:41:34.160 Yeah, that was your initial answer to the question.

03:41:36.140 Was that you thought that men had more rights than women?

03:41:38.640 Yeah, he...

03:41:39.500 I said men have more rights than women.

03:41:41.500 That's what I said verbatim.

03:41:42.480 Brian verbatim asked, do women have more rights than men?

03:41:45.220 And you quickly said yes.

03:41:46.860 I apologize, but I disagree with what you said.

03:41:49.460 Women do not have more rights than men.

03:41:50.580 So there's equal rights then?

03:41:52.060 Yeah, I think we have equal rights.

03:41:53.920 So I'll answer your question then.

03:41:57.160 Where do I begin?

03:41:58.500 Let's talk immediately upon birth.

03:42:01.900 So most boys, most newborns in this country, immediately upon birth have their genitals mutilated.

03:42:09.160 They don't have a right to consent or not consent to this because they're obviously newborns and they can't make an informed decision on that.

03:42:18.460 So immediately that's one way in which boys in this country are not protected.

03:42:23.420 They don't have a right to their own bodily autonomy.

03:42:26.800 And I'm sure you have arguments of your own when it comes to bodily autonomy.

03:42:30.460 That's one.

03:42:31.420 Another bodily autonomy argument I have is that men are compelled...

03:42:35.800 So women...

03:42:37.800 I don't know if it's so much from the framing of a right as a lack of a duty slash responsibility, but I suppose I could...

03:42:47.660 Lol Paladin's donated $200.

03:42:52.120 Sixty percent of women don't comment in the warts.

03:42:57.840 Thank you, Lol Paladin's.

03:42:59.060 Appreciate it.

03:43:00.100 So women have the right to not be subject to forced military conscription.

03:43:08.140 They don't have to register for selective service.

03:43:09.860 If there was a draft, they can't be drafted by law.

03:43:15.120 They don't have, as a man, if you don't register for the selective service, there's certain negative repercussions.

03:43:21.780 It's technically a felony.

03:43:22.960 You could be imprisoned.

03:43:23.900 It's a $250,000 fine.

03:43:25.820 You're barred from certain federal programs.

03:43:28.500 You can't apply for certain federal jobs.

03:43:30.360 You can't get student loans, for example.

03:43:32.040 You can't, I think it might bar you from, I'm trying to, there's a couple more, but in any case, beyond just, oh, you can't vote, too.

03:43:41.540 So those are two that kind of strike me immediately, ways in which there's an inequality between men and women.

03:43:48.960 Why do you think that is?

03:43:52.980 Why?

03:43:54.540 Because the men, is that going to be your argument?

03:43:56.680 No, no, no, no, I'm genuinely curious, like, what do you think about that?

03:44:00.060 Why do you think that is?

03:44:01.500 Think about the circumcision one or the draft one?

03:44:06.840 Well, either one, like for the draft one, for example, would you want women to get drafted as well?

03:44:11.000 Absolutely, in the name of equality.

03:44:13.240 Are you against equality?

03:44:15.300 No, I'm for it.

03:44:16.400 Yeah, women should be subject to forced military conscription the same way men are.

03:44:19.960 Okay, then.

03:44:21.240 You disagree?

03:44:22.340 I was going to say, why not just get rid of it?

03:44:26.260 Yeah, we should just get rid of war, too, shouldn't we?

03:44:28.940 Well, I mean, we haven't used it in how many years?

03:44:32.200 We haven't had to have a draft in how many years?

03:44:34.420 Do you know when the last draft was?

03:44:36.660 No, I'm asking.

03:44:38.180 You're asking me when the last one was?

03:44:40.000 Vietnam?

03:44:40.600 Okay, yeah.

03:44:41.800 That's.

03:44:42.280 Yeah.

03:44:42.480 There are men who would have been alive today had they not been drafted, and there are men alive today who were drafted who have cut up arms, their, what's the word for it?

03:44:56.240 PTSD.

03:44:57.040 PTSD.

03:44:58.080 Trauma.

03:44:58.440 Trauma, et cetera.

03:45:02.380 And even though we haven't had an actual draft, in order for us men to be able to vote, we have to be subject to it.

03:45:11.180 We have to register for selective service.

03:45:12.680 We cannot vote unless we register.

03:45:15.180 And I already listed out there it's technically a felony, $250,000 fine.

03:45:19.820 You are barred from certain federal programs, federal jobs, student loans, can't vote, et cetera.

03:45:30.380 And we can't.

03:45:31.260 So assuming in a world where you can't get rid of the draft, would you agree with me that women should be subject to forced military conscription?

03:45:38.960 I mean, in the event that it's necessary, yeah.

03:45:44.100 Yeah.

03:45:44.360 And I know plenty of women who have just voluntarily signed up to go be Marines.

03:45:49.780 What does that have to do with anything?

03:45:51.500 Well, I mean, like, you don't even, there are plenty of people joining the military, are they not?

03:45:56.960 Are they not?

03:45:57.320 Yeah, they can volunteer.

03:45:58.600 Yeah.

03:45:59.100 But they're not forced to, in the event of a draft, they wouldn't be forced to.

03:46:05.380 Yeah.

03:46:05.740 And there are also plenty of men just volunteering to go.

03:46:09.880 Sure.

03:46:10.280 So my point being, do we not have plenty of people?

03:46:15.480 Why do we still need it in the event that we need it?

03:46:20.200 Do you think we're closer to war now than we were 10 years ago?

03:46:23.260 Probably.

03:46:24.140 Yeah.

03:46:24.840 Yeah.

03:46:26.920 So, I don't know.

03:46:29.360 It's just an interesting thought.

03:46:31.780 Anyways, we were talking about, by the way, Nick, does this look overexposed?

03:46:40.280 Well, it's too late now.

03:46:43.360 But it's, if somebody steps in front of the camera, it tends to overexpose it.

03:46:47.300 I think it looks okay.

03:46:48.400 It looks, well, but it'll only last briefly.

03:46:51.800 Just something to be aware of.

03:46:52.960 If it is overexposed, I can fix it.

03:46:55.280 We have a message here from, new bear question.

03:46:59.080 Donate 100.

03:46:59.680 Let's say it's a starved bear or an evil man.

03:47:02.200 Both of them are fully intent on making sure you have a bad day.

03:47:05.480 Do you think your chances of escape are greater against the bear or the man?

03:47:10.360 Starting with you.

03:47:11.060 Are we answering this question?

03:47:14.240 Into the mic.

03:47:15.640 I feel like you would probably be dead either way.

03:47:20.300 So, I'd still pick bear.

03:47:21.300 I would pick the man, and I think I'd change my answer from the first time, too.

03:47:28.380 I think I'm going to stick with the bear.

03:47:31.800 I'm going to stick with the bear, too.

03:47:35.040 Okay.

03:47:35.660 All right.

03:47:37.040 Oh, was that just about?

03:47:38.580 Okay.

03:47:39.060 Well, the question was, do you think your chances of escape are greater against the bear or the man?

03:47:44.600 I think my chances are zero, and I'd rather be killed by the bear.

03:47:48.680 Oh, okay.

03:47:49.260 Yeah.

03:47:49.760 Yeah.

03:47:50.100 Me, too.

03:47:50.880 Andrew, you missed quite an interesting bear segment, but I don't know if it's worth rehashing it.

03:47:56.600 In any case, there was a bit of a determination from the girls over here that something about 80 to 90 million men in the United States would be inclined to either murder or harm, like, essay a woman, essentially.

03:48:11.880 So, that was interesting.

03:48:16.000 Can we try to play a game of, can Andrew pick out the feminists on the panel?

03:48:20.940 So, I don't know anything about them, but can I just see if my feminism radar is up to snuff?

03:48:27.740 Yeah, let's do it.

03:48:28.820 Let's do it.

03:48:29.340 All right.

03:48:29.820 All right.

03:48:30.320 Let's do it.

03:48:31.620 So, we'll start with Big Red on the right, right?

03:48:34.360 Pleasure to meet you, by the way.

03:48:36.420 Feminist, for sure.

03:48:37.820 100%, 100,000%.

03:48:39.700 Got to be a feminist.

03:48:40.480 Am I wrong?

03:48:42.240 I mean, I never identified as one, but sure.

03:48:45.780 Yeah.

03:48:46.140 Well, okay.

03:48:46.680 So, that's actually a good point.

03:48:48.740 When I say feminism, I mean, definitionally, the movement towards egalitarianism and the rejection of patriarchal systems.

03:48:56.420 That's feminism.

03:48:57.380 Yeah.

03:48:57.700 Okay, yeah.

03:48:58.040 Yeah.

03:48:58.360 So, you'd be a feminist, right?

03:49:00.040 And then to the gal next to you, definitely a feminist.

03:49:05.540 Yes?

03:49:06.160 By that definition or no?

03:49:08.320 Sure.

03:49:09.540 Okay.

03:49:10.240 Gal next to you, definitely a feminist.

03:49:12.560 Am I correct by that definition?

03:49:14.340 I've never outright called myself a feminist, but I mean, I...

03:49:19.480 Well, let me just give you the definition again.

03:49:20.780 It's pretty accurate based on the definition.

03:49:22.240 Okay.

03:49:22.360 I guess it's accurate.

03:49:23.200 Yeah.

03:49:23.560 Yeah.

03:49:24.200 Gal next to you, definitely a feminist.

03:49:27.220 Yes.

03:49:28.220 Okay.

03:49:28.940 Got it.

03:49:29.720 Gal next to you, definitely a feminist.

03:49:32.780 Really?

03:49:33.960 Yeah.

03:49:34.580 Oh.

03:49:35.320 I wouldn't consider myself one based on that definition.

03:49:37.940 Movement towards egalitarian systems with the rejection of patriarchal systems.

03:49:44.060 No.

03:49:44.720 No?

03:49:45.420 No?

03:49:45.800 No?

03:49:46.080 Did I get it wrong?

03:49:47.860 I mean, no, no.

03:49:48.780 Okay.

03:49:48.840 So, I just want to let you know I can totally cheat and just call everybody on the panel a

03:49:52.420 feminist by that, and I would still get most of them right, right?

03:49:54.900 So, I could just cheat.

03:49:55.760 But I'm going to try not to do that.

03:49:56.840 I'm going to try not to do that.

03:49:57.920 Okay.

03:49:58.140 Gal next to you, not a feminist.

03:49:59.820 Correct.

03:50:00.920 Not a feminist.

03:50:01.560 Gal next to you, not a feminist.

03:50:03.340 Correct.

03:50:04.240 Gal next to you, possibly a feminist by that definition.

03:50:08.300 No.

03:50:09.540 No?

03:50:10.160 No?

03:50:11.100 Not at all?

03:50:11.800 Well, not that I see their question.

03:50:12.900 Okay.

03:50:12.920 And then the gal next to you, and then the other one, not feminist.

03:50:16.700 Correct?

03:50:17.120 Hold on.

03:50:17.900 Is it, I don't know if there's any room, is there a possibility for you three to like

03:50:21.580 scoot that way a little bit?

03:50:24.160 No, no, no.

03:50:24.680 Just like you three, room for you guys to scoot chairs this way a little bit?

03:50:28.280 There's no room.

03:50:29.100 There's like no room.

03:50:30.420 Okay.

03:50:30.900 Sorry.

03:50:31.560 Continue, sorry.

03:50:34.280 Continue, Andrew.

03:50:35.580 Okay.

03:50:35.980 So I called the last two.

03:50:37.080 I think I got it.

03:50:37.560 So I only got, I think I only got one wrong.

03:50:40.100 Did I only get one wrong?

03:50:41.580 I only got one.

03:50:43.360 Yeah.

03:50:44.420 So I think my feminist radar is doing pretty good.

03:50:47.300 I question why you think I'm a feminist.

03:50:50.900 I know she's a guess.

03:50:51.560 I mean, I know she's a guess, but I'm just going to, I'll be totally honest with you.

03:50:55.860 There is, this is completely non-scientific.

03:50:59.200 One hundred percent.

03:51:00.660 I just feel like after talking to so many women at this point, based purely on how they're

03:51:05.880 dressed and their physiognomy, I can tell pretty quick if they're a feminist.

03:51:09.160 We are just almost the same.

03:51:12.020 Plus, I have honestly more guy friends than I do girls, so I'm not a super big feminist.

03:51:16.360 I mean, that doesn't mean anything though, right?

03:51:20.240 Women usually prefer the company of men over other women.

03:51:22.900 Now, before we get into the feminist conversation, I think I do want to try to at least finish

03:51:30.020 up all the pre-show notes before we dive into that one, but that'll certainly be an interesting

03:51:34.480 conversation.

03:51:35.500 So, Aaliyah, I want to bring it to you.

03:51:39.400 So, you went through an unfortunate hoe phase after you ended up a 4.5 year relationship.

03:51:48.220 You got with someone who I was going to marry after a week of knowing them and ended up being

03:51:51.580 ghosted.

03:51:52.320 You were rated by your ex and used to be offended by the rating.

03:51:55.400 Now you understand?

03:51:56.400 Yep.

03:51:57.700 What was the rating?

03:51:59.420 He rated me a six.

03:52:01.260 The reason why I was offended though is because he rated other women at eight.

03:52:04.580 Don't you think that that's a little high?

03:52:06.920 Yeah.

03:52:07.760 Yeah, I know.

03:52:08.320 I agree.

03:52:08.860 But I was saying that he rated other women an eight in front of me and we were together.

03:52:14.760 So, that's why I was upset about that.

03:52:17.220 Well, that seems a little crass.

03:52:19.240 That's mean.

03:52:21.040 Yeah.

03:52:21.400 You should at least save that for when you're out drinking with your buddies, right?

03:52:24.080 Isn't that the rules?

03:52:25.840 Yeah.

03:52:26.980 Yeah.

03:52:30.940 Okay.

03:52:31.900 So, and then, sorry, he rated you what?

03:52:35.460 He rated me a six when I was 20.

03:52:38.020 That's above average.

03:52:39.400 Yeah.

03:52:39.800 Yeah, it's above average.

03:52:41.460 I understand now.

03:52:42.640 I fell for the whole, I'm a 10 bullshit, so.

03:52:47.380 Okay.

03:52:47.760 Yeah.

03:52:48.240 Oh.

03:52:48.740 Wait.

03:52:49.260 Everyone ourselves.

03:52:50.520 Do we rate?

03:52:50.860 Speaking of, Stifler asked everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10, starting

03:52:55.860 with?

03:52:57.940 I'm supposed to rate myself.

03:52:59.560 Hold on.

03:53:00.860 Yes.

03:53:02.120 Looks.

03:53:02.740 Scale of one to 10.

03:53:05.020 Wait.

03:53:05.860 Who do I want to start with?

03:53:09.200 Yeah.

03:53:09.740 Okay.

03:53:09.940 We'll just start over here.

03:53:10.680 Why not?

03:53:11.520 I'd give myself a solid seven.

03:53:13.640 Okay.

03:53:14.180 Well, you can't pick seven.

03:53:15.000 You can't pick seven.

03:53:15.500 You've got to pick eight or six.

03:53:16.280 That's such a horrible number.

03:53:17.200 You've got to pick eight or six.

03:53:18.580 Yeah.

03:53:18.880 Same.

03:53:19.740 Right?

03:53:19.880 I was like, that's such a median number.

03:53:21.980 I'm going to give it an eight.

03:53:23.560 Okay.

03:53:28.160 Eight.

03:53:30.040 Eight?

03:53:30.640 Okay.

03:53:31.800 I'd say I'm an eight.

03:53:33.240 Eight?

03:53:33.920 I'd say 7.5.

03:53:35.680 Ooh.

03:53:36.300 Oh.

03:53:36.960 I'm saying six.

03:53:38.100 I say six.

03:53:39.120 Five.

03:53:40.360 Eight.

03:53:41.540 Eight.

03:53:42.740 Nine.

03:53:45.240 That's true.

03:53:46.920 Thank you.

03:53:48.000 I'd give it a 10.

03:53:48.920 Thank you.

03:53:50.060 Got to be humble.

03:53:52.540 I don't know if there's really, Andrew, I don't know if there's anything to pick apart here

03:53:55.360 on the radio.

03:53:57.360 Just a couple things.

03:53:58.800 I just want to be clear.

03:54:00.760 Raise your hand if you understand the question to not mean your personality or any other contributing

03:54:06.400 factors, just your looks.

03:54:08.240 Can you raise your hand if that's how you understood the question to be?

03:54:11.760 Okay.

03:54:12.820 So then, if I were to ask you what ugly is, right?

03:54:17.580 Like, what is an ugly woman?

03:54:19.060 What does that look like?

03:54:20.640 Can you describe that for me?

03:54:25.680 No?

03:54:27.440 Can anybody on the panel describe that?

03:54:29.460 Hang on.

03:54:29.780 Hang on.

03:54:30.060 Feminist first.

03:54:31.800 Can any of the feminists describe for me what an ugly woman looks like?

03:54:35.140 I think more of really what would make...

03:54:37.660 Are you talking, like, physically ugly?

03:54:39.420 Yeah, just physically, yeah.

03:54:40.500 Is that just their looks?

03:54:41.360 Oh, just their looks.

03:54:42.760 They're a beautiful person on the inside, you know?

03:54:45.360 They've gone to all the great spiritual retreats.

03:54:47.600 They're wonderful human beings.

03:54:48.820 I'm just purely talking about their physical looks.

03:54:52.720 Yeah, but I feel like that's just kind of, like, unnecessarily kind of rude.

03:54:58.700 I don't know.

03:54:59.440 Why?

03:54:59.660 I don't want to, like, state what makes someone ugly, because, like, you're going to find someone

03:55:04.160 who finds it beautiful.

03:55:06.520 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so...

03:55:09.300 The right person will see you as a piece of heart.

03:55:11.960 Mm-hmm.

03:55:12.940 Mm-hmm.

03:55:13.880 Well, so, let me ask you a question.

03:55:15.700 If you can't tell me what ugly is, then why should we believe you about what beautiful is?

03:55:19.740 And why should we believe that you're in that category?

03:55:26.640 Believe whatever you want.

03:55:27.780 I don't care.

03:55:28.840 Yeah, I mean...

03:55:29.980 Well, whether you care about it or not, I'm asking you a question.

03:55:34.240 I'm not asking you if you should care about what I believe.

03:55:37.400 I'm not...

03:55:38.300 That's not the question I'm asking.

03:55:39.400 I'm asking, why would a person believe, if you can't tell them what an ugly person is,

03:55:44.480 why you should think that you should be in the beautiful category?

03:55:49.640 That is a really good point, that it's just subjective.

03:55:53.140 Right.

03:55:53.320 And it's all, like, society built.

03:55:59.260 Now, going over to the non-feminist side of the room, I'd like to note that I think we're

03:56:04.280 going to get more honest answers.

03:56:05.640 To the non-feminist side, can you describe what an ugly woman looks like?

03:56:10.880 She's disproportionate with her facial flaws.

03:56:14.780 Very flawed.

03:56:15.680 How they present themselves.

03:56:17.060 Gray hair.

03:56:17.960 Obese.

03:56:19.240 Disformed.

03:56:20.540 Aging wrinkles.

03:56:21.820 Fat skin.

03:56:23.000 Yeah.

03:56:24.280 Leather skin.

03:56:26.420 Yeah.

03:56:27.080 What about old?

03:56:28.480 Yeah, old.

03:56:29.200 Is that a contributing factor?

03:56:31.080 Age?

03:56:31.480 I don't think so.

03:56:34.440 Yeah.

03:56:34.740 I don't think it makes you ugly, just maybe not pretty.

03:56:38.060 Not as attractive.

03:56:39.400 Yeah.

03:56:39.560 I think.

03:56:40.060 Yeah.

03:56:40.780 When you.

03:56:41.240 But not as attractive would be moving you down the scale towards ugly, right?

03:56:44.820 That's true.

03:56:45.380 Yeah, that's true.

03:56:46.040 Ugly.

03:56:46.420 But I don't think they're but ugly just because you're old.

03:56:48.940 No, no, I'm not saying that they're ugly just because they're older.

03:56:51.780 Yeah.

03:56:51.900 That's not my claim.

03:56:52.660 I'm just saying it's at least a contributing factor.

03:56:54.900 Well, I mean, some men age like fine wine, you know?

03:56:59.720 Men are attracted to youth and I think that's what he's getting at.

03:57:04.840 Yeah.

03:57:05.360 Well, I was just curious.

03:57:06.580 There's a distinction.

03:57:07.940 So how come, so to the feminists on the panel, how come they're able to describe this but you're

03:57:13.940 not able to describe it?

03:57:15.140 Even though you do have standards for what it is, otherwise you couldn't put yourself in

03:57:19.100 the beauty standard.

03:57:20.300 Is it just because you don't want to hurt people's feelings?

03:57:22.660 No, it's not because, well, for me personally, it's not because I don't want to hurt people's

03:57:28.460 feelings, but it's like, I look at my mom who has wrinkles all over her face, I would

03:57:32.340 never consider her ugly.

03:57:33.520 I see every moment of her life in which she enjoyed, where she sat out in the sun, had

03:57:39.180 time, shared laughs with her friends.

03:57:42.080 Like, I, no.

03:57:45.060 So, I think I understand what you're saying.

03:57:47.940 You're saying, like, I know people personally.

03:57:49.960 Because I don't think it's ugly.

03:57:51.200 Who, yeah, according to my beauty standard may not be beautiful, but I wouldn't tell

03:57:55.240 them that.

03:57:55.840 I, I get that.

03:57:57.220 But, no, I genuinely don't think it's ugly.

03:58:00.300 I, I think I understand what you're saying.

03:58:02.860 Do you just have no standard for what ugly is at all?

03:58:06.720 None?

03:58:08.280 I mean, no, but.

03:58:10.660 No?

03:58:10.920 No, it's like if a chick had a big hunch on her back and warts all over her face and

03:58:16.740 she was missing all of her teeth and half of her face right here, her cheek was completely

03:58:21.220 busted out and her tongue was hanging out the side through her teeth.

03:58:24.300 Is that still a beautiful woman?

03:58:26.400 I mean, physically, I guess, no.

03:58:29.440 But, like, you also don't know what happened to her.

03:58:31.960 You just look and you're judging her face.

03:58:33.000 Why would that matter?

03:58:33.920 Why would it matter?

03:58:34.620 Why would it matter if a meteorite hit her and that's what caused it, or she got hit

03:58:38.140 by a truck and that's what, why would that matter?

03:58:40.340 Why would that be a contributing factor?

03:58:43.320 Why would the why in this case matter at all as to whether or not this person is physically

03:58:47.920 attractive or not?

03:58:49.720 Because the why always matters.

03:58:51.800 You always need to look deeper.

03:58:53.960 I mean, if you don't think so, that's fine.

03:58:55.760 We can just keep that.

03:58:56.480 Okay, but, I mean, I want you to think about this.

03:58:58.520 So, I'll try to, I'll try to reframe this.

03:59:01.040 Let's say that society had a beauty standard where people with two arms were considered

03:59:04.880 more beautiful than people with one arm.

03:59:07.260 Whether or not I got my arm lopped off by a machete, or it was blown off in a war, or

03:59:12.300 a dump truck fell on it and that's what severed it, I would still only have the one arm.

03:59:17.640 So, the beauty standard would still be the same, right?

03:59:19.660 I don't, I'm not sure why, how that happened has anything to do with the standard of what

03:59:25.220 is beautiful or not.

03:59:26.220 You see what I'm saying?

03:59:26.740 No, I get what you're talking about.

03:59:27.780 Like, I, no, I get what you're talking about.

03:59:31.680 Like, a homeless person might not be considered pretty or attractive because of how they may

03:59:39.080 present themselves based off living off the streets for however, that's why I love that

03:59:44.840 you're just lighting a cigarette right now.

03:59:46.420 That's so okay.

03:59:48.420 I just was not expecting that.

03:59:51.120 The hell's wrong with lighting a cigarette?

03:59:52.920 No, nothing, I, nothing, I just, I, no judgment, I just was not expecting it, it, no judgment.

04:00:00.760 You act like I'm over here snorting cocaine off of a hooker or something, like, what's going

04:00:04.680 on, what's going on?

04:00:05.640 No, I just wasn't expecting someone, like, to light up in the middle of a podcast, I don't

04:00:09.980 know, it just caught me a bit off guard.

04:00:11.620 I mean, like, at support, do you?

04:00:13.460 If you feel like you need a cigarette, shoot, grab a cigarette.

04:00:16.360 Andrew, I don't know if you want to, maybe just for the sake of time, I don't know if,

04:00:22.620 Yeah, yeah, I'm done, I'm done with the inquiry here.

04:00:24.820 Yeah, yeah, and I guess just, like, this is always just an interesting one to ask, but

04:00:28.480 I don't think we'll linger too long on the whole rating thing.

04:00:31.560 Will you be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you, as compared to now?

04:00:36.600 Probably not.

04:00:37.500 Okay, what about you?

04:00:39.840 You're 20, will you be better at 30?

04:00:42.460 I hope so.

04:00:43.220 Better looking.

04:00:45.300 I hope so.

04:00:46.760 Yeah, but you hope so, but what do you think?

04:00:53.780 Yeah.

04:00:54.960 Better looking at 40?

04:00:58.600 Shit, probably not.

04:01:00.080 What about you?

04:01:01.000 You're 21, better looking at 31?

04:01:03.300 At 31?

04:01:04.760 Or are you better looking now?

04:01:06.260 Depending on what, ooh, see, that's such a hard question.

04:01:13.180 I'd hope I look better at 31.

04:01:15.020 Hope has nothing to do with it.

04:01:19.640 That's true.

04:01:20.380 I don't know, because I, like, observe how women grow, and they seem to kind of grow into,

04:01:25.080 like, this womanhood.

04:01:27.260 Like, I'm looking at you, and you seem like you've grown into your womanhood, now that you've

04:01:30.660 aged a bit.

04:01:31.900 Thank you.

04:01:32.360 But, like, yeah, like, I would, I, yeah, okay, I think I'll be, I think so.

04:01:42.760 What about 41?

04:01:44.360 41?

04:01:45.020 Probably not, but.

04:01:46.140 Okay.

04:01:46.580 But you will be more attractive at 31 as compared to now at 21.

04:01:49.440 What about you?

04:01:50.860 I'll be more attractive at 30, but not at 40.

04:01:53.580 Okay.

04:01:54.460 What about you?

04:01:54.940 I don't think I will, no.

04:01:57.400 What about you?

04:01:58.840 No, as much as I would want to, I don't think so.

04:02:01.840 Okay.

04:02:02.440 No.

04:02:03.300 And then you're 31.

04:02:04.660 Do you think you're more attractive at 21 than you are now at 31?

04:02:07.800 Yes.

04:02:08.440 More attractive at 21.

04:02:09.580 Yeah, I was more attractive at 21.

04:02:11.020 All right.

04:02:11.320 What about you?

04:02:11.900 You're 18.

04:02:12.420 Do you think you'll be better looking at 28 versus now?

04:02:14.520 Yeah.

04:02:15.580 38 versus now?

04:02:16.740 No.

04:02:17.420 38 versus 28?

04:02:19.180 No.

04:02:19.760 Okay.

04:02:20.600 What about you?

04:02:22.040 Morgan?

04:02:22.520 Me?

04:02:22.700 28, yeah.

04:02:24.340 Okay.

04:02:25.240 38?

04:02:26.400 No, no.

04:02:27.020 Okay.

04:02:27.300 What about you?

04:02:28.540 No.

04:02:29.480 Not better looking.

04:02:30.260 You're 29, not better looking at 39?

04:02:32.320 Correct.

04:02:33.040 Were you better looking at 19 as compared to now?

04:02:35.420 I'm better looking now.

04:02:36.740 Better looking now.

04:02:38.380 I wonder if I should change how this question is asked.

04:02:42.880 Are you more attractive to men now as opposed to when you were 19?

04:02:49.740 That's a good way to phrase it.

04:02:51.000 Am I more attracted to men now?

04:02:55.360 Do you think if we took 1,000 men now and 1,000 men back then, I'm trying to think how

04:03:02.940 to frame this, do you think they would be more attracted to you now or when you were

04:03:08.560 19?

04:03:09.700 The men would be more attracted to the 19-year-old.

04:03:12.120 Oh, okay.

04:03:14.180 Or, yeah, the simple way, like, if there were 1,000 men, do you think they'd be more attracted

04:03:17.580 to you now or how you looked at 19?

04:03:20.400 19.

04:03:20.920 Yeah, okay.

04:03:22.680 Why?

04:03:23.180 But you believe you're better looking now, though, despite this?

04:03:26.120 I do.

04:03:26.700 Okay.

04:03:27.040 I think I take better care of myself now than I did at 19.

04:03:30.120 Okay, cool.

04:03:30.980 Let's see.

04:03:32.600 We have, did we get through all of the notes from Kehlani?

04:03:36.340 No.

04:03:36.520 Should the relationship be 50-50?

04:03:38.100 No.

04:03:38.420 I'm not going to be able to hit all of your notes, but do you believe in gender equality?

04:03:43.320 You wanted to...

04:03:44.440 Do you believe in equality?

04:03:46.860 In equality.

04:03:47.800 This is one you wanted to pose for the table?

04:03:50.600 Mm-hmm.

04:03:55.780 It's different than your previous one.

04:03:59.060 Do you believe in equality?

04:04:01.340 Mm-hmm.

04:04:02.560 Let's come back to that later.

04:04:04.020 Okay.

04:04:04.700 Let's see.

04:04:06.160 Should our relationship be 50-50?

04:04:07.700 We already talked on that.

04:04:08.820 You said you disagree with the host on anything, but maybe thinking that all women are whores?

04:04:15.760 What?

04:04:16.280 Where did you get that one?

04:04:17.240 No, because...

04:04:18.100 Not all women.

04:04:19.180 No, I know, but like...

04:04:20.300 60% of women.

04:04:25.160 Would that be a biased thing to say, that 60% of women are whores?

04:04:29.820 If that's what you think, then that's what you think.

04:04:31.840 But you wouldn't object to it?

04:04:33.160 You wouldn't be like, well, that's a bit excessive.

04:04:34.840 If that's the experiences you had, then no, I don't object to it.

04:04:38.000 Okay.

04:04:39.340 We're doing a callback here, Andrew, where she said 60% of men would, in the bear, man-bear

04:04:45.740 thing, would opt to victimize.

04:04:48.840 So she said essentially like 80 to 90 million men in the United States would choose to murder

04:04:55.660 or arrest a woman, essentially.

04:04:59.460 And then it was 50-30-50% for the rest of the girls here.

04:05:03.020 So it's a lot.

04:05:03.900 A lot of 80 million men.

04:05:05.520 It's a lot of men.

04:05:06.060 But we...

04:05:08.240 I don't know if you want to...

04:05:09.440 No, okay.

04:05:09.920 Let's get through the pre-show notes here.

04:05:11.340 All right.

04:05:12.580 Oh, going back to Aaliyah, you said your now husband dated your sister.

04:05:17.040 Yes.

04:05:17.480 In high school, 16 years ago.

04:05:20.200 It was their high school relationship.

04:05:23.700 That's crazy.

04:05:25.240 Nice.

04:05:25.500 Did they, um...

04:05:26.680 Were they boink?

04:05:28.340 Did they?

04:05:29.120 Did they?

04:05:29.820 Did they boink?

04:05:30.360 They did.

04:05:31.340 They did.

04:05:33.680 And me and him discuss that, too.

04:05:37.280 We...

04:05:37.620 Me and him discuss a lot of things, so...

04:05:39.500 Has he ever told you, like, who was better?

04:05:40.820 He told me I'm better.

04:05:44.580 I mean, of course...

04:05:45.640 I mean, he's gonna...

04:05:46.480 Yeah.

04:05:46.720 Wait, what's your sister think?

04:05:48.260 I mean, I don't really talk to her about what me and him talk about, so...

04:05:53.940 Like at the wedding?

04:05:55.000 Oh, no.

04:05:55.680 She's fine with it.

04:05:56.600 She's moved on.

04:05:57.880 She has a kid with somebody else.

04:06:00.040 She's...

04:06:00.600 I mean, she's doing great.

04:06:01.780 She's moved on.

04:06:02.840 It's crazy.

04:06:03.320 So...

04:06:03.820 All right.

04:06:05.480 Interesting.

04:06:06.340 You said, is it spiteful to be eye for an eye in a relationship?

04:06:10.280 So if someone isn't giving what the other gives, is it wrong or ingenuine to step back?

04:06:14.740 Is this, like, about, like, oral sex, basically?

04:06:17.360 No, it's more about the 50-50 thing.

04:06:19.660 Oh, okay.

04:06:20.660 I guess not really oral sex.

04:06:23.120 It's just mainly...

04:06:24.300 I don't know.

04:06:24.720 I thought that's where you were going with that.

04:06:26.420 It's just, like, if you're in a relationship with somebody and they're not giving you what

04:06:32.760 they once were giving you, is it spiteful to step back and kind of reevaluate the relationship

04:06:41.120 and not give your all because they're not giving their all anymore?

04:06:45.860 Okay.

04:06:46.420 All right.

04:06:47.420 That's with that.

04:06:48.400 Fair enough.

04:06:49.720 Age gap relationships.

04:06:51.200 No.

04:06:51.400 You said 15 years and more is gross or gross.

04:06:56.380 It is double standard to...

04:06:59.040 Oh, that's a different...

04:06:59.780 Hold on.

04:07:00.160 Okay.

04:07:00.360 So we'll touch on the age gap stuff.

04:07:02.760 So you said 10 to 15 years is pushing it.

04:07:05.240 Sorry, but it gives me the ick.

04:07:06.780 Yep.

04:07:07.400 All I think about...

04:07:08.020 I know you guys don't like that, but it just...

04:07:10.520 It's weird.

04:07:11.940 You say it's weird, gives you the ick, and that it's pushing it, and it's gross.

04:07:20.480 So...

04:07:21.200 Can I explain?

04:07:21.900 Can you make an argument?

04:07:22.940 Okay.

04:07:23.280 Yeah.

04:07:23.540 Okay.

04:07:23.760 So I know that I'm projecting because I, too, have been...

04:07:31.280 Okay.

04:07:31.580 Let me start over.

04:07:32.920 So...

04:07:33.320 You've been in one of those relationships, haven't you?

04:07:36.140 Yes.

04:07:36.460 Actually, I have.

04:07:37.660 I was underage dating someone that was five years older than me.

04:07:43.840 Now, looking back on it, it is gross.

04:07:47.540 It does...

04:07:49.000 To me, that gave the pee vibe, if you know what I'm saying.

04:07:53.600 Um, but...

04:07:55.340 But what about the, uh, the 18-year-olds and them engaging in an age gap relationship?

04:08:01.100 Okay.

04:08:01.380 So it just...

04:08:03.340 The way I'm looking at it is if...

04:08:06.680 I'm talking about bigger age gaps, like 15, like, okay, 10 to 15 years.

04:08:13.000 Yeah, me too.

04:08:13.440 So what I'm, what I'm looking at is, like, okay, and I know this is wrong.

04:08:18.400 Me and my husband even agrees that the way I look at this is wrong.

04:08:22.180 Um, so, like, if you're, if you've been with someone, let's say they're 10 years younger than you, um, I just look back at the fact that you were 10 years old and they were a baby.

04:08:34.240 To me, I just see that as kind of gross, but that's where I was going with that.

04:08:40.220 Okay.

04:08:40.960 So how come it doesn't give you incest vibes that you could be dating somebody who's the same age as your brother?

04:08:48.800 That's a good question.

04:08:53.480 Um, I don't, I don't know.

04:08:58.120 I don't know if that really relates.

04:09:00.860 Oh, I don't see how it doesn't.

04:09:02.460 If it gives you the vibe, so what you're doing, you're saying, how could you date somebody that young?

04:09:06.740 Maybe that's, that could be your daughter.

04:09:08.500 That could be, this is where we're going with this, right?

04:09:11.440 Yeah.

04:09:12.280 Yeah.

04:09:12.660 So, I mean, if that is the case, then how come it doesn't give you incest vibes to date somebody around your own age?

04:09:17.320 They could be your brother.

04:09:18.200 They could be, right?

04:09:19.660 Yeah.

04:09:20.280 I could see that.

04:09:21.000 So, so I don't, so I don't even understand the argument.

04:09:23.400 It makes, it literally makes no sense to me.

04:09:25.420 If that person, if you date a woman who's 15 years younger than you and you say, well, that's like dating your daughter.

04:09:31.740 Okay, well, then if you date a man who's three years older than you, that's like dating your brother.

04:09:35.520 Does that even make sense to you?

04:09:37.620 I mean, that part doesn't, but I don't know.

04:09:40.180 It could just be because of the.

04:09:41.780 It's a completely, it's a completely nonsensical worldview.

04:09:45.220 It makes no sense what, and I said that.

04:09:46.980 I said I was projecting.

04:09:48.820 Yeah.

04:09:49.280 So.

04:09:49.800 I'm just letting you know, right?

04:09:50.980 Yeah.

04:09:51.120 It's like, it's, it's just nonsensical.

04:09:52.620 Yeah, you make a valid point.

04:09:53.840 I, I already know that I'm projecting.

04:09:55.860 I already said it.

04:09:56.640 Um, it's just how I feel.

04:10:00.840 Okay.

04:10:01.440 So it just gives you the egg.

04:10:02.900 Yep.

04:10:03.680 Literally.

04:10:04.180 It gives me the egg.

04:10:06.180 Well, what if a woman wants that?

04:10:08.340 Like, let's say an 18 year old is trying to get with a 40 year old, like women do sugar

04:10:12.940 daddies or whatever.

04:10:14.100 What if that's the situation?

04:10:15.580 She's pursuing him.

04:10:17.440 Yeah.

04:10:17.900 Yeah.

04:10:18.240 Um.

04:10:20.100 Is that how it's doing?

04:10:21.360 I still think it's gross.

04:10:22.840 Do you pursue the man in the whole sugar baby situation?

04:10:25.180 I don't know.

04:10:26.240 I've never done it.

04:10:27.420 I've been approached to be a sugar baby, but they've always just like hopped in my DMs

04:10:31.520 and I'm like, you're probably fake.

04:10:33.260 Um, cause I know, well, I'm not friends with them anymore, but back when I first was in college,

04:10:39.240 I knew women would go on apps to literally look for that.

04:10:44.200 Yeah.

04:10:44.680 I'm not surprised that there are apps that like hold it, but I don't think I've ever seen

04:10:49.300 like an 18 year, 18 year old approach a 40 year old and try and do that.

04:10:56.360 I've always seen the opposite.

04:10:57.500 Like I've always seen men approaching women in my life.

04:11:01.780 So even when women are older, does that give you the ick?

04:11:04.340 Yeah.

04:11:04.680 Oh yeah, definitely.

04:11:05.780 Okay.

04:11:06.040 Well, let me give you a personal anecdote.

04:11:09.040 So I'm 35.

04:11:11.200 Uh, I've had multiple women who are like 19, 20, 21 slide into my DMs.

04:11:16.620 Did somebody say, Ooh, did you just say, Ooh, they're like fresh out of high school.

04:11:24.000 And that's like, if you're 19, you're in college, finishing your, starting your sophomore.

04:11:29.180 So you think it should be criminalized then?

04:11:31.880 No, but I, I don't know.

04:11:34.560 I said they were, they were DMing me.

04:11:38.220 Yeah.

04:11:38.760 But like, why?

04:11:40.540 Because they're interested in him.

04:11:42.320 You don't, well, like, let's look at some like really successful, uh, older men.

04:11:48.240 Um, like Henry Cavill, Ryan Cavill, Ryan Reynolds.

04:11:53.620 You don't think like 19, 20, 21 year old women aren't attracted to these men?

04:11:57.520 About Leo, who only dates until they're 25.

04:12:02.260 My fiance is 10 years older than me.

04:12:04.760 But does it still give you the ick if the woman's the initiator?

04:12:09.760 Um, I mean, it is kind of weird.

04:12:13.260 Like, why are you trying to date someone that's older?

04:12:17.860 I don't know.

04:12:18.440 Well, let me, uh, let me reframe.

04:12:20.260 Does it give you as much of the ick?

04:12:23.160 Hmm.

04:12:27.520 Maybe a little bit, maybe a little less, but, but it, yeah, it's still, it's still a little

04:12:37.320 gross, my opinion.

04:12:38.820 Why?

04:12:40.280 Why is it gross?

04:12:42.740 Um, you're just, I don't know.

04:12:47.140 Um, I'm trying to think about it.

04:12:56.400 It just, it kind of just comes back to like, when you were, I got the ick, it gave me the

04:13:05.060 ick.

04:13:05.580 And I don't like that shit cause it gave me the ick, right?

04:13:09.420 Yeah.

04:13:09.620 That's what it comes down to really, right?

04:13:11.460 Yeah.

04:13:11.920 I mean, honestly.

04:13:13.100 I actually want, I actually want to tackle this from a different perspective.

04:13:17.340 So if I even, let me just grant you all that it's icky, gross, creepy, predatory, whatever.

04:13:24.560 I'll just grant it to you.

04:13:26.120 Make a, make an actual compelling argument in terms of the benefits to the man for why

04:13:32.360 he should date, for example, a 35 year old over a 25 year old.

04:13:37.560 Well.

04:13:38.320 Make an actual compelling argument to the benefits to the man.

04:13:41.900 I mean, there's not really a benefit for the man.

04:13:45.260 Okay.

04:13:45.700 I'm open to hearing from the rest of the panel.

04:13:48.340 Make it, make an actual argument.

04:13:51.060 Maybe maturity.

04:13:52.340 I was going to say they're probably emotionally more mature.

04:13:54.760 Does maturity also sometimes come with baggage and trauma and you're less good looking?

04:13:58.320 Yes.

04:14:01.260 Okay.

04:14:01.860 So do you think maturity, the benefit of maturity is going to outweigh 10 years of aging?

04:14:11.540 No.

04:14:12.040 In terms of a woman's beauty?

04:14:13.680 No.

04:14:14.080 She's more fertile when she's younger.

04:14:16.140 And actually the reality is this whole, this whole trope of older women being more mature.

04:14:22.060 There's plenty of young women who are mature and plenty of old women who are incredibly

04:14:27.400 immature.

04:14:28.000 It's true.

04:14:28.540 It's not like you turn 30 and all of a sudden you're not toxic.

04:14:31.280 You're not a piece of shit.

04:14:32.540 You're not a pain in the ass to deal with.

04:14:35.280 All this shit, it stays and it gets worse a lot of times.

04:14:39.860 If you have like any sort of mental illness, that shit gets worse as you get older.

04:14:43.960 Oh, absolutely.

04:14:45.020 It's 100% true.

04:14:46.600 Some of the worst women I know are old ladies, bro.

04:14:50.300 They're fucking old ladies.

04:14:51.920 They're Karens.

04:14:52.400 We've had, me and Andrew have encountered them on the show.

04:14:58.200 Goddamn, bro.

04:14:59.080 If we, if me and Andrew get into a bad argument, like an argument with like a 22 year old and

04:15:04.520 we disagree or whatever, it ends at the show.

04:15:07.860 Some of these older women want to have a fucking vendetta for fucking months because there was

04:15:13.460 a disagreement.

04:15:14.720 For real?

04:15:15.080 Absolutely.

04:15:16.000 Yeah.

04:15:16.260 I was crazy.

04:15:16.660 Yeah, it's not, it's not a joke.

04:15:18.060 I ain't joking around.

04:15:18.840 They hold grudges.

04:15:19.480 They, they, they create spy dossiers.

04:15:22.040 No joke.

04:15:23.100 Little spy dossier.

04:15:24.420 It's, it's insane how, um, how this goes because there was an adversarial conversation.

04:15:29.820 Yeah.

04:15:30.240 So we, it's, it's understood that, uh, pressing some of these issues on us or back on you guys,

04:15:37.920 um, in an adversarial way can be uncomfortable.

04:15:41.140 Like I understand that, but that doesn't mean it comes from a place of bad will or, or, uh,

04:15:45.060 meanness or cruelty.

04:15:46.680 Um, it just means that dating in modernity is adversarial.

04:15:51.180 And so the questions that are asked around it are super uncomfortable often and having

04:15:56.180 to actually think about why it is that you believe what you do is also uncomfortable sometimes.

04:16:03.420 I still have not heard a compelling reason why, uh, a, a man should date a 35 year old

04:16:09.680 woman over a 25 year old woman.

04:16:15.060 I don't really know if there is a compelling reason on my end.

04:16:17.780 I feel like it's what they, then why should they be barred from dating younger women?

04:16:21.560 If you can't even make a compelling argument to the contrary, I think the only argument

04:16:26.200 that there could be made is that if he actually can't have kids and the woman already has kids

04:16:30.540 and he wants to share with those kids.

04:16:33.580 How common of a scenario is that?

04:16:35.880 Exactly.

04:16:37.320 Yeah.

04:16:39.400 Wait, hang on.

04:16:40.600 Let me, I'm trying to figure this out.

04:16:42.440 Can you repeat that to me?

04:16:43.640 Okay.

04:16:44.120 So let's say.

04:16:44.420 I think I understand what she's saying.

04:16:45.800 Um, so I think what she's trying to say, the only reason why a 30, like a 35 year old

04:16:52.340 man would pick a 35 year old woman of her 25 year old woman, the 35 year old woman is

04:16:57.380 more likely to have children than the 25 year old.

04:16:59.980 And if he's infertile, his only chance to have children would be through no adopting.

04:17:06.960 No, I don't think that's what she's saying.

04:17:08.820 Right?

04:17:08.940 No, no, no, no.

04:17:09.980 No, I'm saying that he's infertile.

04:17:11.620 And the only reason a man would even be with a woman that is older, if she has kids and

04:17:16.060 he couldn't have kids.

04:17:17.060 Wait, isn't that exactly what I'm, that's what I'm saying.

04:17:19.720 No, she's inferring something totally different here.

04:17:23.040 Go ahead.

04:17:23.500 Finish, finish the thought.

04:17:24.460 I'm just saying the only reason a man would probably be with a woman is if she has kids

04:17:30.320 and he literally cannot have kids and he loves these kids and he'd be like, all right,

04:17:35.100 I want to be with this woman.

04:17:36.060 Isn't that what I'm saying?

04:17:36.860 Okay.

04:17:37.080 Well, then that is what Brian was saying.

04:17:38.840 I thought you were going totally, somewhere totally different, but Brian was totally right.

04:17:42.200 That's exactly what he was saying.

04:17:43.040 I'm sorry.

04:17:43.280 W.

04:17:44.320 Yeah, that is a W. Brian.

04:17:45.760 L. Andrew.

04:17:46.100 W. Brian.

04:17:47.200 Yeah, that was W. Brian.

04:17:48.660 Okay.

04:17:49.080 He takes it on that one.

04:17:50.500 Yeah.

04:17:51.000 I just, um.

04:17:51.940 I don't really think there's a big reason though.

04:17:53.380 Well, I think, do you feel it's gross because the man's predatory?

04:17:56.140 Is that it?

04:17:56.660 It's predatory?

04:18:00.520 It's a big word.

04:18:02.860 I think that's the initial thought.

04:18:05.220 He's 31, she's 21.

04:18:09.240 I think that's a stereotype.

04:18:11.660 I don't see.

04:18:12.240 I think it's just like an age from like 18 to 20 that it's still kind of, it's still on

04:18:19.760 the cusp of being really close.

04:18:22.520 You don't touch 18 to 20 year olds.

04:18:23.800 They're still teenage, like 18 to 19, that's still a teenager.

04:18:26.720 Well, you're not a teenager if you're 20.

04:18:28.520 No, if you're 20, no, but you're still more prone to doing bad and making bad decisions

04:18:33.580 than you would if you're older.

04:18:34.440 So should 18 to 20 year old women not be able to vote?

04:18:38.740 No.

04:18:39.680 I think it's all out the window until you're 18.

04:18:41.320 They can join the military, they can buy a firearm, they can get five figures, six figures

04:18:49.600 of student loan debt, they can sign legally binding contracts, and they can vote, but

04:18:56.300 they can't make a determination as to having a consensual romantic and sexual relationship

04:19:00.940 with a man who's a bit older than her.

04:19:04.120 I didn't say they can't.

04:19:05.520 I said your, what I mean is more your responsibility as an older adult is to just not seek that.

04:19:13.460 Because if you're like, overhear it, like, well, because I'm, see, you said 31 and 21.

04:19:19.300 Sure.

04:19:19.620 10 years to me is like, whatever, that's fine.

04:19:22.120 Okay, so like the 31.

04:19:23.240 35 and 20, 15 years.

04:19:27.980 Oh, sorry, I did not register that in my brain.

04:19:30.220 35 and 20.

04:19:31.040 Yeah, let's say that that's it.

04:19:32.660 I mean, 15 years, that's still slightly weird to me.

04:19:39.160 I don't know why you can't just find someone your own age.

04:19:43.080 That's pushing it for me, too.

04:19:44.320 Well, I mean, that just kind of goes for anyone.

04:19:45.140 A man is motivated to date a younger woman because she's...

04:19:47.980 Fertility.

04:19:48.360 Because she's pretty.

04:19:49.540 No, it's not pretty.

04:19:50.260 No, it's fertility.

04:19:51.060 It's literally she can bear his children.

04:19:53.380 She has a higher chance of success of carrying a successful pregnancy.

04:19:56.900 Can a 31-year-old woman not do that?

04:20:04.000 Her chances of success decline rapidly when she hits 30.

04:20:08.240 They decline, but it's not impossible.

04:20:10.320 No, they can still get pregnant, but...

04:20:12.460 It's not like you're just completely poof.

04:20:14.400 Well, I think perhaps the argument is...

04:20:16.760 I mean, there's a biological basis for this beyond just the actual...

04:20:22.120 Like, I don't think a man intellectualizes she's fertile.

04:20:25.800 But because men are programmed to find fertility attractive, they will find more youthful, for

04:20:32.160 example, more youthful adult women attractive.

04:20:35.120 For me, I think it's just they think younger women are sexier.

04:20:39.420 I mean, that's what I've heard from nothing but men.

04:20:41.960 It's like, yeah.

04:20:42.440 I don't object to that.

04:20:43.580 Yeah, they're more physically attractive.

04:20:45.680 Yeah, and that's just weird to me.

04:20:48.120 It's what?

04:20:48.940 That's just kind of...

04:20:50.380 Like, I get it, but at the same time, it's weird to me.

04:20:57.000 Why is it weird?

04:20:57.580 What do you think attraction is for?

04:21:01.200 Why do you think men and women are attracted to each other?

04:21:03.240 What do you think the ultimate purpose of that would be?

04:21:05.640 Well, like, I'm just thinking if you're attracted to an 18-year-old, what's to say that that

04:21:11.400 attraction can't then bend to a 17-year-old just because she's hot?

04:21:15.680 Yeah, so we can tackle all of that at kind of the same time.

04:21:21.560 What do you think men and women are attracted to each other for?

04:21:25.580 What is the purpose from an evolutionary standpoint of them being attracted to each other?

04:21:30.160 What is the purpose of that?

04:21:31.720 For procreation?

04:21:33.240 For procreation, right?

04:21:37.200 And pleasure?

04:21:38.520 Well, it wouldn't be...

04:21:39.480 I mean, it's a pleasurable act, but the purpose of the act itself would not be for pleasure.

04:21:44.640 It would be for procreation, right?

04:21:47.440 Isn't that the primary edict is to reproduce?

04:21:50.640 Mm-hmm.

04:21:51.000 So if that is true, then why wouldn't it be true that through this kind of evolutionary model that men would be the most attracted to women who had the highest likelihood of being able to reproduce?

04:22:06.420 Those women are going to be between about the ages of 18 and 26, right in that window.

04:22:13.620 That makes sense, right?

04:22:17.960 Yeah.

04:22:18.520 Yeah, that makes sense.

04:22:19.860 I also...

04:22:20.460 Why not just...

04:22:21.580 So then not only would it not be weird, wouldn't it be like almost a biological certainty?

04:22:27.820 Like that most men would be attracted to women who were between 18 and 26 more than any other kind of group of women?

04:22:35.720 Sure, maybe it'd be a certainty.

04:22:39.720 But, I mean, then why not just find that person when you are that age?

04:22:46.600 Yeah, well, I mean, but we're talking about attraction, right?

04:22:50.140 Yeah, you still find those people attractive at that age when you're the same age.

04:22:55.180 Yeah, no, I get it.

04:22:56.580 But what's actually the problem?

04:22:58.680 Why not...

04:22:59.260 If the opposite is true.

04:23:00.460 So, wouldn't it also make sense from an evolutionary standpoint that women would find men who are older to be attractive

04:23:08.080 because they would associate this with a wider array of survivability?

04:23:13.420 No.

04:23:14.660 I feel like...

04:23:16.600 I mean, I don't know.

04:23:17.960 I've never, like, dated an older man.

04:23:20.040 But, like, you talked about the, like, age being too close to, like, a brother or something.

04:23:27.820 I've dated a younger guy where I had that experience where I was, like, oh, you're actually, like, kind of the same age as my brother.

04:23:35.840 And I was just, like, that's icky.

04:23:38.040 Thanks.

04:23:38.520 So, I backed off.

04:23:40.100 And, like...

04:23:41.040 So, if you had a twin brother, you're basically screwed over if you date anybody your own age?

04:23:45.080 I'd date someone older.

04:23:46.700 I'd date someone maybe, like, a year or so older.

04:23:49.020 That's fine.

04:23:49.740 But, like, why...

04:23:50.360 But that's like dating your brother because he's only a year older.

04:23:54.440 No.

04:23:54.880 Right?

04:23:55.940 How would that not be?

04:23:57.020 Couldn't you have a brother who was only a year older?

04:23:59.220 I mean, yeah, you could have a brother who's only a year older.

04:24:01.720 Then date two years older.

04:24:03.200 Date three years older.

04:24:04.440 Date younger.

04:24:04.960 Yeah, but I mean...

04:24:06.280 But I don't understand why that's necessary.

04:24:08.760 Like, why would that be something which is even necessary?

04:24:11.100 If you're attracted to a guy who's three years older than you and you have a brother that's three years older than you,

04:24:15.840 who gives a shit?

04:24:16.820 Why would that even be problematic?

04:24:18.000 I also think that a lot of...

04:24:23.880 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

04:24:24.680 Let her answer, let her answer.

04:24:25.900 Sorry.

04:24:26.640 I mean, I don't know why it would be problematic, but, like, just for me, personally, I felt like it was problematic.

04:24:32.720 Because, like, I don't know, my brother's younger and he's, like, two years younger, so it just felt weird for me to, like, be with someone who was the same age as my little brother.

04:24:44.320 Or... I don't know.

04:24:46.340 Okay, so I get... I understand.

04:24:48.700 From your personal perspective, it gave you the ick.

04:24:51.940 Ginger donated $199.99.

04:24:56.620 My husband and I just got married Wednesday, and there is a 27-year age gap.

04:25:02.460 We have been together for six years.

04:25:04.940 Honestly, nothing is weird about it.

04:25:07.700 Both consenting adults.

04:25:09.960 Oh, there's a meme.

04:25:11.200 Oh, there's such a great meme.

04:25:12.660 We gotta pull it up.

04:25:13.500 I agree with that.

04:25:14.400 You're both consenting adults, like, you're free to do what you want to do, but, I mean, like, yeah, me personally, I just wouldn't do it, because I think it's...

04:25:20.880 Let me read...

04:25:21.420 And I think that that's fine, right, for you to have that feeling, but I just want to know that whether or not this is just a feeling and it's just the ick,

04:25:32.360 and you actually don't have any compelling reason why people shouldn't do it other than for you personally, it's just kind of icky.

04:25:37.240 Um, I think for me personally, it's just kind of icky, but then also, I was thinking more of, like, you guys were saying, like, a 10 to 15-year age gap, which I feel like is more acceptable, and, like, I don't know.

04:25:50.300 I was definitely thinking more, like...

04:25:52.300 Like a 20-year-old than a 70-year-old?

04:25:54.660 Well, I was thinking more someone, like, my dad's age, yeah, who's, like, above 75, 75, god, 65, sorry, dad, um, not that he's gonna see this, but, um...

04:26:08.660 Okay, well, I'm willing to engage with that, too.

04:26:12.300 Why would it actually be a problem if somebody your age was with somebody your dad's age?

04:26:17.260 Why would that actually be a problem?

04:26:18.780 I, that would, ooh, that would be such an issue for me.

04:26:22.240 Change the split.

04:26:23.060 I would, mm, I wouldn't want to have a stepmom the same age as me.

04:26:27.000 I'm good.

04:26:28.900 No, no, okay, I get, I get that you find it icky.

04:26:31.720 I'm asking, though, how it would actually be problematic.

04:26:33.880 Why can't you just marry someone your own age?

04:26:37.260 I, I can't, I couldn't hear you.

04:26:39.040 I'm sorry, go ahead.

04:26:40.060 Why can't you just marry someone your own age?

04:26:42.940 I mean, again, unless you just want to still be too...

04:26:43.580 Because you fell in love with somebody who wasn't your own age.

04:26:48.660 That's why.

04:26:49.260 But is it actually love, or is it just attraction?

04:26:53.060 I mean, is that even a concern of yours?

04:26:56.600 Doesn't love require attraction?

04:27:01.000 Yeah.

04:27:02.680 But, I mean...

04:27:04.320 But assuming, assuming even, assuming even that they were just boinking, they were just having sex, right?

04:27:09.540 That's all that they were doing with each other.

04:27:11.580 What would your objection to that even be?

04:27:13.220 I don't know about it.

04:27:14.040 I'd prefer to just not know about it.

04:27:17.260 Yeah, I know, I know you don't want to know about it, but what would the objection to it be?

04:27:21.080 I think, honestly, I think it would be worse off if he was just seeking attraction from her than, like, actual love.

04:27:30.100 I feel like I'd be more supportive if they were actually in love.

04:27:32.840 And, like, had, like, actual love for each other that I could observe in, like, a way similar to, like, you know, kind of how, like, my mom and dad have love that I observe.

04:27:45.820 You know, like, there are things that you observe that make love evident in a relationship.

04:27:49.880 I think seeing that would make me more supportive if they were actually...

04:27:55.880 But, yeah, the just boinking, that would bother me more.

04:28:00.840 Okay.

04:28:01.520 I got a couple questions.

04:28:02.540 Why?

04:28:05.580 Purely just because I think it's...

04:28:08.880 It's just icky.

04:28:17.320 And, I mean, like, I think that may just go back to me having, like, sexual assault trauma from my person who did that for me when I was...

04:28:27.300 Oh, okay, okay.

04:28:28.240 Well, I'm not going to dive into the trauma, right?

04:28:30.780 No.

04:28:30.860 I just wanted to know if the answer was, because it's icky.

04:28:34.160 I think, A, yeah, just because I think it's icky.

04:28:37.340 And I just don't think it's...

04:28:41.680 It's just harder...

04:28:44.080 It's harder for me to view it as real and, like, genuine, you know?

04:28:49.160 The relationship?

04:28:51.220 Well, yeah.

04:28:52.340 I mean, like, I mean, unless there's, like, actual, like I was saying, like, you know, how mom and dads clearly show that they love each other.

04:29:00.100 And, like, their children can observe it and that's how you're supposed to know, like, what a healthy relationship should or shouldn't look like.

04:29:07.380 You're supposed to call me all that for your kids.

04:29:09.800 So, I got to ask you, then, on this ick factor, because I think I can grant to you that, I don't know, let's say an age gap of 20 years or more, that's pretty icky, right?

04:29:23.040 It's weird.

04:29:23.700 It's pretty, well, it's pretty icky, right?

04:29:26.800 I think it also just depends on what age people are, because, like, yeah, if it was someone who was, like, 65 and someone who was, like, 20 or 19 or 18, I'd be like, yo, what are you doing with someone who is still a teenager?

04:29:41.120 Do you know what the group is?

04:29:43.300 Hang on, hang on, hang on, real quick.

04:29:45.480 If you're of drinking age?

04:29:46.680 Do you, are you aware of the group that has the largest age gap relationship is LGBTQ men?

04:29:58.600 Is that, is that, is that, is that, hang on, does that give you the ick?

04:30:02.880 It does, because my, I, I actually, it does, because I've talked to.

04:30:09.840 Private chat.

04:30:11.380 Huh?

04:30:12.540 Disregard, go ahead.

04:30:13.280 Oh, I've talked to people who are gay, and they've, like, explained so many, like, it's mainly a fetish thing.

04:30:23.260 I'm not going to go into, like, all the details.

04:30:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have to go into details.

04:30:27.140 It's mainly for that.

04:30:27.620 It's a bit of a taboo subject, but I just wanted to make sure that you were consistent and that that also gives you the ick.

04:30:32.380 No, I think it's mainly for that, it's a fetish thing, which is why it's so hard for me to believe genuine attraction.

04:30:37.180 I'm just like, are you sure you don't just have a fetish for younger women?

04:30:40.060 Yeah, no, I know, I get it.

04:30:44.480 I just want to make sure you're consistent that that group is 5%, which is astronomical compared to any other group.

04:30:53.040 You do think that that's icky, right?

04:30:55.040 Yeah, and the same goes for cougars.

04:30:56.800 Yeah, yes.

04:30:57.660 Okay.

04:30:58.340 Got it.

04:30:58.980 Thank you.

04:30:59.860 I got a couple questions here.

04:31:01.380 First off, I want to show this meme.

04:31:02.700 Nick, if you could pull it up.

04:31:05.700 The myth of consensual sex.

04:31:07.480 So 30-year-old, I consent.

04:31:08.900 I consent to 30-year-old woman.

04:31:10.300 She doesn't consent to their consensual relationship.

04:31:14.400 The 30-year-old woman has to consent for them to be together.

04:31:18.160 So I thought that's an interesting meme.

04:31:21.280 I do think it is like a, it's almost a romantic warfare.

04:31:26.300 Because if women shame men for having this preference towards wanting to date younger women

04:31:33.560 or finding younger women more attractive, it secures their ability to get a mate when they are older.

04:31:42.420 But I do think it is this sort of shaming tactic.

04:31:48.100 I wonder how you guys would react if, for example, men, large swaths of men said that women who were attracted to tall men,

04:31:56.820 this is actually evidence of your incestuous fetishization of your fathers.

04:32:02.600 Because when you were young, your fathers were tall, you looked up at them.

04:32:05.380 And for this precise reason, women's attraction towards tall men actually has no evolutionary basis,

04:32:12.280 has nothing to do with tall men are more likely to protect you, et cetera, et cetera.

04:32:15.900 But actually that you have incestuous fantasies.

04:32:19.420 And it's actually predatory.

04:32:21.120 And also to add on to this, if you're dating somebody of your own age or around your own age,

04:32:26.100 you must be having incestuous fantasies of your own brothers, right?

04:32:28.940 But it's this whole tall thing.

04:32:34.000 I mean, I think women, by and large, prefer to date tall men.

04:32:38.320 Or at least are attracted to tall men.

04:32:41.280 You are incestuous and predatory for seeking out tall men to satisfy your perverse, incestuous fantasies.

04:32:48.120 Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

04:32:52.020 I mean, yeah, when you say it like that in that instance, yeah.

04:32:57.380 Date somebody your own height.

04:32:58.940 Who makes exactly the same amount of money that you do.

04:33:05.180 Works in the same occupational field that you do.

04:33:07.460 Drives the same type of car that you do.

04:33:09.100 And has the same type of apartment that you have.

04:33:12.780 All of these different things.

04:33:14.640 Essentially, no two people are equally yoked is what Brian's getting at, right?

04:33:19.140 And so this is going to be the case with age.

04:33:21.480 It's going to be the case with looks.

04:33:23.020 No two people.

04:33:23.700 There's always going to be one partner who's more attractive than the other, right?

04:33:27.900 There are some rare instances where they're about the same, but not mostly.

04:33:31.440 Most of the time, one of them's at least a little bit better looking than the other one, right?

04:33:35.700 So there's just no such thing as really truly being equally yoked that way, right?

04:33:40.580 I think you can be equally yoked spiritually, but I'm not sure that you can materially.

04:33:43.720 Now, I do have a question going back to you, Macy.

04:33:47.080 You seem to have...

04:33:49.160 McKenna Keith donated $200.

04:33:51.980 I believe couples stay together longer if the girl is eight plus years younger than the man.

04:33:57.600 My husband's eight years older than myself, and I wouldn't even mind the little bigger age gap.

04:34:02.880 Actually, interestingly enough, one of the largest objections to age gap relationships is that 95% of them fail.

04:34:12.440 Turns out that this stat is unequivocally false, that the UK did a massive study on this,

04:34:19.580 where they went through the Department of Statistics, and they took every marriage which had ever occurred in the UK,

04:34:25.380 and they found no statistical deviation whatsoever between those in an age gap relationship

04:34:32.400 and those not when it came to separation and divorce.

04:34:38.080 Interesting.

04:34:39.140 Going to Macy, so you had a pretty strong reaction to even when I said if there were like 19, 20, 21-year-old women

04:34:47.060 sliding into my DMs, I'm 35.

04:34:50.100 You have strong feelings on the age gap stuff.

04:34:53.060 You're 21, correct?

04:34:54.640 Yes, I am.

04:34:55.380 When did you start your OnlyFans?

04:34:58.420 I was 19.

04:35:00.960 Well, I guess, like, I mean, do you think it's less weird for a 19-year-old to have OnlyFans

04:35:05.340 than for a 19-year-old to date a 31-year-old?

04:35:10.360 I mean, you are correct on we're both consenting adults,

04:35:14.860 but, like, from a personal perspective, I think it's just weird.

04:35:21.000 But that's just me personally.

04:35:22.740 Well, what about doing the OnlyFans thing?

04:35:24.780 It's such an age where, I mean, men even much older than 31 could very well be consuming

04:35:30.000 your content.

04:35:30.880 I don't know if you have analytics on who your OnlyFans subscribers are.

04:35:34.240 Perhaps you can share.

04:35:34.940 I think it ranges from 25-year-olds to 50-year-olds.

04:35:44.000 But so then why is it okay, for example, for a 19-year-old woman to be distributing pornographic

04:35:48.160 photos to these men, but she can't have, like, a loving, monogamous relationship with an older man?

04:35:56.920 I mean, you totally can have one.

04:36:00.080 Right, but it gives you the egg.

04:36:03.060 For me, I...

04:36:05.380 It's just, like, a personal thing.

04:36:07.460 Like, I don't understand why.

04:36:11.800 Why what?

04:36:12.940 A woman, a young woman would date an older man?

04:36:15.340 Or the reverse?

04:36:15.540 It sounds...

04:36:16.220 Well, I think I understand where you're coming from.

04:36:19.060 Let me see if I can make sure I can make sense of it.

04:36:21.180 But you're saying the reason it gives you the ick is because you think it's a fetishization

04:36:27.340 of older men with younger women, right?

04:36:30.420 Wouldn't you say that a woman who's anomalously...

04:36:34.040 Is an anomaly and is, like, 6'10", that most of the people who subscribe to her OnlyFans

04:36:39.640 are going to be doing it out of a fetish?

04:36:42.260 Yeah.

04:36:43.540 Yeah.

04:36:43.860 And that doesn't give you the ick?

04:36:46.500 It does, but I'm getting paid for it, so I don't even care.

04:36:51.820 So, in this particular case, if the younger woman is with this man based on resources,

04:37:00.340 isn't that like she's getting paid for it?

04:37:04.060 Yeah, and I support that.

04:37:05.860 Yeah, I support that, right?

04:37:07.760 Wait.

04:37:08.180 Oh, I have a follow-up question on this.

04:37:11.180 Note, would you have any issue with a woman who is prostituting herself to a man?

04:37:15.040 Like, actual prostitution?

04:37:16.820 So, sex for money.

04:37:20.420 With a...

04:37:20.980 She's 19, he's 35.

04:37:25.420 She's getting money, right?

04:37:27.340 Yeah, that is where you kind of cross a line.

04:37:30.420 Well, it's sex work, right?

04:37:32.120 But it's legal.

04:37:34.040 Well, assuming it's legal.

04:37:35.420 Let's say this is in Nevada, where it is legal in some places.

04:37:39.120 She lives in Nevada.

04:37:43.140 She's not a prostitute, though, don't I?

04:37:44.380 Confirming that it is correct, and I'm not a prostitute.

04:37:46.520 It's only some.

04:37:47.360 It's only some places.

04:37:49.640 Let's say it's illegal.

04:37:50.580 In Germany, right?

04:37:51.300 You're from Germany.

04:37:51.920 I believe in Germany, prostitution is legal.

04:37:55.400 Right?

04:37:56.000 Red light districts, et cetera.

04:37:58.920 Assuming it's illegal, any objections?

04:38:01.360 Or illegal, excuse me.

04:38:04.140 I guess not.

04:38:07.340 Like, I don't know.

04:38:12.260 Okay.

04:38:12.520 If you're above 18, you're technically an adult, so you can do whatever you want, but it's just a personal thing.

04:38:23.000 But isn't it basically what you do?

04:38:24.120 Yes, but let us remember, though, that money cancels ick, right?

04:38:30.000 Money cancels ick.

04:38:31.060 Money cancels ick.

04:38:31.660 So the formula here is ick, unless money, X amount of money, no more ick.

04:38:39.020 Is that correct?

04:38:42.520 That's facts.

04:38:45.220 Yeah.

04:38:47.680 I understand where you're coming from.

04:38:49.840 It's like the money to ick ratio.

04:38:51.640 I don't know exactly what it would be.

04:38:52.840 Is it like $10,000 per disgust point?

04:38:56.920 Like, I don't know exactly what it is.

04:38:59.520 Maybe there is no delineation point, but it does seem that X amount of money cancels X amount of ick.

04:39:07.000 Lopaldin says, if I give money to Brixen, is he taking advantage of me for my resources,

04:39:11.200 or am I taking advantage of him for his resources?

04:39:19.760 What?

04:39:20.560 Hmm?

04:39:22.100 What does that even mean?

04:39:23.180 I don't know.

04:39:28.620 He does have another chat here.

04:39:30.240 Shocking that the woman, who only cares about the superficial, stuck in a situationship and

04:39:35.020 dating a man who won't commit to her, now cares only about what's inside a person must

04:39:39.320 only apply to women.

04:39:41.120 I think this is directed at you.

04:39:43.080 Do you want to say something back to Lowell Paladins?

04:39:45.740 Lowell Paladins.

04:39:46.160 I mean, I just don't understand.

04:39:48.720 I don't only care about things that are superficial.

04:39:52.120 I feel like I've been sitting here the whole time talking about how you should look into

04:39:56.340 people's trauma and see why they are the way they are.

04:40:00.140 But I mean...

04:40:00.660 Wait, guys should look into a woman's trauma?

04:40:02.460 Well, I mean, like, not like look into it, obviously, but like you should...

04:40:06.940 Can you just keep it like bottled away?

04:40:09.620 That sounded really bad.

04:40:11.320 Wait, what you said or what I said?

04:40:13.560 No, what I said.

04:40:14.660 Not in like a way of like, oh, yeah, therapist, let's assess your trauma.

04:40:18.120 But like, if she brings up something that's like hard for her to deal with, I totally just

04:40:26.420 lost my train of thought.

04:40:27.580 I know what you're about to say.

04:40:28.900 You were about to say, she just shouldn't bring it up.

04:40:31.980 No, that's actually not what I was going to say.

04:40:34.100 I'm pretty sure that's what you're going to say.

04:40:35.500 No, because there have been plenty of times where I haven't brought things up.

04:40:37.560 My dream in a relationship, just don't tell me anything.

04:40:40.920 Oh, I'd cry.

04:40:42.020 You'd cry?

04:40:42.600 I'd cry too.

04:40:44.240 No, there are plenty of times where I've like...

04:40:45.840 Don't you not want to be married?

04:40:48.180 Pretty much, yeah.

04:40:49.620 Although, who knows?

04:40:50.540 Maybe if I...

04:40:51.580 Who knows what the...

04:40:53.160 What my future holds.

04:40:55.720 Oh, you've changed.

04:40:57.140 You flipped on that.

04:40:57.440 No, I'm still pretty strong on this, but you never know.

04:40:59.280 Maybe Andrew...

04:41:00.020 You don't want kids.

04:41:00.720 Andrew proselytizes me or something.

04:41:03.620 And then I'll become an Orthodox Christian and then...

04:41:07.200 There you go.

04:41:09.020 Or, you know, maybe I meet a nice...

04:41:10.660 Wait, no.

04:41:11.460 Don't become a...

04:41:12.220 What?

04:41:12.560 Don't become a Christian or an Orthodox Christian.

04:41:14.620 Why do you do whatever you want?

04:41:15.200 Oh, boy.

04:41:15.700 Okay, let's not go there.

04:41:16.760 Okay.

04:41:17.520 Andrew's going to debate with you for two hours.

04:41:18.980 Wait, is Andrew an Orthodox Christian?

04:41:20.800 Andrew is a based, giga-chad, Orthodox Christian.

04:41:24.920 Okay, I don't know what the rest of those first few words were.

04:41:27.780 That's totally fine.

04:41:28.600 But, um...

04:41:30.040 Speaking of which, Lol Paladins is back.

04:41:33.040 Look into your trauma.

04:41:33.820 Woman, you literally said you broke up with a dude because he tried to pry too much into

04:41:37.920 your past and get you to open up...

04:41:41.500 Gotcha, bitch.

04:41:42.840 That's fire.

04:41:44.320 Wait, old man Marine, my mom's 17, dad's 85.

04:41:47.960 Does that give you the ick?

04:41:49.800 Been married for almost 50 years, still have the ick.

04:41:53.760 She married at 20 when he was 35, and they met when she was 18.

04:41:57.940 Does it give you the ick?

04:41:59.360 Show of hands if it gives you the ick.

04:42:00.760 Like, nobody?

04:42:03.140 Well, how much money does he make?

04:42:05.240 There you go.

04:42:05.840 That's the real question.

04:42:06.720 That's very good.

04:42:07.820 That's true.

04:42:08.820 That is true.

04:42:09.780 I don't care.

04:42:10.080 I just feel like I'm not...

04:42:11.600 I don't comment on other people's relationships.

04:42:14.740 Like, I'm not gonna...

04:42:15.780 We'll give you a pass for the show.

04:42:17.560 Okay, thank you.

04:42:18.680 Thank you, Brian.

04:42:20.100 One question...

04:42:20.620 Okay, how about this?

04:42:21.940 Would you rather see a woman going from fuckboy to fuckboy to fuckboy who's her age,

04:42:29.440 her age, maybe one year older max, just never getting commitment, she's jaded, these guys

04:42:36.120 don't commit, they're players, they're fuckboys, right?

04:42:40.320 Or would you rather see her in a loving, safe, healthy, monogamous relationship, long-term

04:42:48.180 relationship?

04:42:49.800 She's 20, he's 33.

04:42:52.460 Which do you prefer to see?

04:42:53.920 The healthy relationship?

04:42:56.320 Yeah, the healthy relationship.

04:42:57.780 Healthy relationship.

04:42:58.940 The healthy relationship.

04:43:00.460 Healthy.

04:43:01.240 Healthy.

04:43:01.780 Healthy.

04:43:02.500 Healthy.

04:43:03.600 Healthy.

04:43:04.220 Okay.

04:43:04.740 We do have to move on from the age gap discussion, but it was a wonderful one.

04:43:09.920 Twitch.

04:43:10.600 Yeah, we'll do Twitch really quick.

04:43:12.580 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow, drops a Prime sub if you have one.

04:43:16.240 Boys, it's been 33 minutes since we last out of Prime.

04:43:19.320 Can you please...

04:43:20.220 I think it's bugged.

04:43:21.000 Can you guys...

04:43:22.120 By the way, thank you for getting us to 80,000 followers.

04:43:24.760 What was going on with the followers earlier?

04:43:27.520 That was crazy.

04:43:28.040 I want to see if it happens again, though.

04:43:30.120 Okay.

04:43:30.700 Guys, drops a follow in a Prime sub if you have one.

04:43:33.180 Yo, Mo, Andrew, thank you for the Prime.

04:43:34.960 Artist, thank you for the Prime 33 minutes ago.

04:43:37.620 Boys, drops a follow in a Prime sub if you have one.

04:43:41.400 I have no idea what was going on before.

04:43:42.840 I'm pretty sure somebody just bought us fake followers or some shit.

04:43:47.420 I don't know.

04:43:47.860 I think that's something you can do, but...

04:43:51.100 Yeah, you can get bought it.

04:43:52.160 I don't know why somebody would do it for you.

04:43:54.700 I don't know.

04:43:55.000 Whatever.

04:43:56.600 Yo, G-Squared.

04:43:57.460 Thank you for the Prime.

04:43:57.900 Appreciate it.

04:43:58.300 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:43:59.300 Drops a follow.

04:43:59.720 Drops a Prime.

04:44:00.140 Okay.

04:44:00.980 So, need to get back to my pre-show notes.

04:44:03.140 I think we're pretty close to getting through most of them.

04:44:06.480 We had Aaliyah?

04:44:09.780 Duren, thank you for the Gifted Five.

04:44:10.940 You said, you think it's hypocritical for a man or a woman that has a high body count to want someone who is a virgin or low body count, especially if they demand sex early in the relationship and if they are judging people who do have high body counts.

04:44:25.980 Yeah.

04:44:27.180 So, me, basically.

04:44:29.420 Oh.

04:44:29.620 Although, I've never revealed my body count.

04:44:32.020 I'm a virgin.

04:44:32.940 Okay.

04:44:33.340 Just kidding.

04:44:35.500 But...

04:44:35.900 Born again.

04:44:38.340 Yeah.

04:44:39.280 So, you think, for example, let's say a guy has a body count of 10.

04:44:42.380 Is it hypocritical for him to want a woman who's a virgin or low body count?

04:44:51.520 I mean, not if he's willing to wait.

04:44:56.600 What if she's not willing to wait?

04:44:57.840 She just wants to lose it.

04:45:01.140 I mean, then...

04:45:04.000 I mean, why is she...

04:45:06.400 Why did she hold it off for so long and then...

04:45:08.760 I don't know.

04:45:09.840 He's the right guy.

04:45:11.480 Sorry.

04:45:12.600 He's the right guy.

04:45:13.300 We have three virgins here at the...

04:45:14.560 Two virgins.

04:45:15.340 Never mind.

04:45:17.100 I don't even know.

04:45:18.000 I think you guys...

04:45:18.480 She's gone.

04:45:19.160 Have you guys been lying the whole time?

04:45:20.240 She's gone.

04:45:21.020 Somebody's going to sit back in the...

04:45:22.940 Where's my staff?

04:45:24.840 They're just back there.

04:45:26.860 One's playing classwork.

04:45:27.840 Yeah.

04:45:30.080 So...

04:45:30.640 Wrong, though, for the guy with a high body count to want a woman with a low body count?

04:45:39.520 Or virgin?

04:45:42.400 I just think...

04:45:44.140 Well, I said it's wrong if he's judging.

04:45:49.260 Yeah.

04:45:49.820 So...

04:45:50.220 Like, if he's judging a woman...

04:45:53.340 Wait.

04:45:53.940 Wait.

04:45:54.320 Hang on.

04:45:54.700 I'm sorry.

04:45:55.140 Sorry to cut in.

04:45:55.940 I just caught something that Brian just said.

04:45:58.320 Did you claim that there's women on this panel who claim that they're virgins?

04:46:02.000 Yeah.

04:46:02.620 So, her and her.

04:46:05.700 The girl in the black and the girl in the white right there.

04:46:08.360 Why are you laughing?

04:46:10.120 I'm such a...

04:46:10.840 All right.

04:46:15.140 All right.

04:46:15.440 We get back to the conversation.

04:46:17.520 I thought...

04:46:19.560 I kind of believe them, but it's a little dubious.

04:46:23.540 I'm not sure I believe them.

04:46:25.540 That's so funny.

04:46:26.400 I definitely believe the other Sophia.

04:46:28.680 Which one?

04:46:29.280 The other Sophia.

04:46:29.840 I believe it.

04:46:30.360 The black.

04:46:31.100 I believe it.

04:46:31.960 I don't know.

04:46:32.460 I don't know.

04:46:32.620 We came off the streets.

04:46:33.800 You have to believe everything we said.

04:46:35.640 I mean, just...

04:46:37.800 Anyways.

04:46:39.940 Anyways.

04:46:40.620 Can I say something to your thing to her?

04:46:42.900 Sure.

04:46:43.660 I think men...

04:46:44.980 So, women want men with experience, and men want women with purity.

04:46:50.540 That's a good take.

04:46:51.660 It's true.

04:46:52.900 That's facts.

04:46:53.780 You can't argue with facts.

04:46:55.500 Can't argue with facts.

04:46:58.160 I mean, so...

04:46:58.800 I guess I'm just trying to hear out your argument here before I can respond.

04:47:02.280 Okay.

04:47:04.060 Well...

04:47:06.680 It's only...

04:47:07.580 I just feel like it's hypocritical.

04:47:10.780 Okay.

04:47:11.280 Say it to me again.

04:47:12.060 I'm sorry.

04:47:12.440 Just say it one more time.

04:47:14.600 Well, no, this is...

04:47:15.440 I know.

04:47:16.080 Just say what I said again.

04:47:17.040 I'm sorry.

04:47:17.340 I'm sorry.

04:47:17.820 I'm tired.

04:47:18.060 So, a man who has a high body count to want someone who is a virgin or low body count?

04:47:26.560 Well, I must have worded that wrong.

04:47:30.180 What I'm saying is I think it's hypocritical of a man to judge a woman with a high body count...

04:47:37.440 If he has one?

04:47:38.760 If he has a high body count as well, and then he expects her to have sex with him, like when

04:47:46.920 they first meet.

04:47:48.080 But he's judging her.

04:47:49.300 Well, so, okay.

04:47:49.880 Here's what you wrote.

04:47:50.680 You said, I think it's hypocritical for a man or a woman that has a high body count to

04:47:54.940 want someone who is a virgin or low body count.

04:47:57.440 Especially, this is the qualifier, especially if they demand sex early in the relationship

04:48:01.840 and if they are judging people who do have high body counts.

04:48:06.660 But, I mean, even if we remove the qualifier, you still think it's hypocritical even if the

04:48:10.800 man is not demanding sex early in the relationship or if they're judging.

04:48:14.160 No, it's just with the qualifier.

04:48:16.180 Okay.

04:48:16.440 So, fine.

04:48:16.940 We'll include the qualifier.

04:48:18.100 Especially if they demand sex early in the relationship.

04:48:21.940 Well, even a low body count woman could have sex early in a relationship, right?

04:48:26.800 She could, yeah.

04:48:27.880 Okay.

04:48:28.900 Now, when you say judging people, so, for example, like he would, he's judging her insofar

04:48:35.740 as he would not date her because of her body count?

04:48:37.720 Um, I think it kind of, what I was getting with that is going back to that relationship

04:48:46.860 I had where he judged me for my body count and he was a virgin.

04:48:52.180 Oh.

04:48:53.220 But, I don't, I don't know.

04:48:54.500 Well, it's a little different, but.

04:48:55.580 I know it's different.

04:48:56.000 So, I'll just open it up to the panel.

04:48:57.880 Do you think that if a guy has a really high body count, let's say he has a body count of

04:49:02.560 a hundred and he wants a girl with like sub-five, sub-ten body count, or even a virgin, do you

04:49:09.020 think that that's hypocritical?

04:49:11.460 And if you want, just show of hands, is it hypocritical?

04:49:16.980 Hypocritical?

04:49:17.700 If he's judging her for it.

04:49:20.220 Okay.

04:49:20.520 Well, he's judging her for it.

04:49:21.580 I don't put judging.

04:49:22.620 This is what I'm trying to say.

04:49:23.480 If he's judging women with higher body counts, but he has a high body count himself, I think

04:49:29.180 that is hypocritical.

04:49:30.860 That's what I'm saying.

04:49:32.360 I think it's hypocritical regardless, but him judging her makes it wrong.

04:49:36.260 Yeah.

04:49:36.860 Well, okay.

04:49:37.460 So, what would the judgment be?

04:49:39.220 So, the judgment is, I have a high body count.

04:49:41.240 She has a high body count.

04:49:42.480 I know that women with high body count, with high body counts are not the type of woman

04:49:47.180 I'd want to date because they're promiscuous.

04:49:49.400 It's the sticky note.

04:49:51.280 Well.

04:49:51.900 Is that the judgment?

04:49:53.020 Or is the judgment like, she's a fucking whore, she's a fucking skank, blah, blah.

04:49:57.820 Is that what you're talking about?

04:49:58.780 Pretty much, yeah.

04:49:59.620 Okay, so, but is it still hypocritical absent that sort of judgment?

04:50:04.140 If the judgment is just, I believe in my heart of hearts that women who have a promiscuous

04:50:09.960 past or who are currently promiscuous do not make for good partners, is that a judgment?

04:50:17.260 No.

04:50:17.660 If, I mean, if.

04:50:19.160 I think it's a judgment, but.

04:50:20.460 It's a judgment, but it's not wrong.

04:50:21.960 I don't think it's wrong.

04:50:22.820 I don't think it's high as well.

04:50:24.180 It's not me.

04:50:24.680 It's what I'm saying.

04:50:25.160 Or I don't think it's wrong.

04:50:25.840 Okay.

04:50:26.140 It's just your personal preference.

04:50:27.720 Okay.

04:50:28.160 Well, I don't want to linger too long on this, but I'll just say that.

04:50:31.080 Can I, can I, can I ask you again, just to repeat real quick, where's the actual hypocrisy?

04:50:37.820 Because you're judging someone with the same number of body count that you have.

04:50:46.040 Yeah.

04:50:46.460 Why would that be hypocritical?

04:50:49.420 Because you're making them feel like they're less than you because you guys share the same.

04:50:56.560 You don't need to tell them your judgment if you don't tell them the judgment.

04:50:59.180 Yeah, so let me give you, let me give you an example of this.

04:51:01.620 I smoke cigarettes.

04:51:03.260 If my daughter comes to me and says she wants to smoke cigarettes and I tell her she shouldn't,

04:51:08.040 am I a hypocrite?

04:51:16.040 No.

04:51:17.640 No.

04:51:18.160 So can I have, so even if, so if I engage in an activity and then have a preference against

04:51:23.580 that same activity from somebody else, how exactly would that even make me a hypocrite?

04:51:27.960 So let's say for instance, I, I banged 800 chicks and you banged 800 dudes.

04:51:33.920 Let's just say in this hypothetical, that was the case, but I prefer to date women who

04:51:38.500 haven't banged 800 dudes.

04:51:41.000 How would that actually make you a hypocrite?

04:51:46.080 The, the judgment, like the outright judgment is what makes the person the hypocrite.

04:51:52.760 Why would that be hypocritical?

04:51:53.740 You can have a preference.

04:51:55.040 What if it's, if you think that it's worse for women than men, let's say, if you think

04:51:59.740 it's worse reputationally for women, you think it does more damage to them than it does men,

04:52:05.200 right?

04:52:05.580 Well, yeah.

04:52:05.720 If you don't think that men and women are interchangeable widgets, then why is it that it would be hypocritical

04:52:10.920 to say, well, this does less damage to me than it does for you, so my preference is against

04:52:14.500 that?

04:52:16.140 I'm not actually sure that that's hypocrisy.

04:52:20.840 Maybe it's not then.

04:52:22.080 I don't know.

04:52:22.620 Well, that's just, the whole, and just keep going back to the, the judgment part, that

04:52:29.080 outright judgment.

04:52:30.900 You can have a preference.

04:52:32.840 Okay.

04:52:33.280 If you were a serial killer and you judged other serial killers for as bad, you said that what

04:52:39.060 you're doing over there is bad, right?

04:52:41.460 Even though I'm doing the same exact thing that you're doing.

04:52:44.760 Aren't you just making an argument from hypocrisy?

04:52:48.180 You're just, you're just saying, but what about you though?

04:52:51.320 He could still be right that what you're doing is bad, couldn't he?

04:52:54.000 Yeah.

04:52:55.080 Yeah.

04:52:56.100 So I don't really know, even, even if it was, let's say, hypocritical in this case, why would

04:53:00.900 that even be a problem?

04:53:01.760 Well, it's like I keep saying, it's the judgment part.

04:53:08.700 Did hypocritical give you the ick?

04:53:10.780 No.

04:53:11.680 It's the judgment part.

04:53:13.920 Yeah.

04:53:14.180 But what's wrong with the judgment part?

04:53:17.120 It's the belittling part of it.

04:53:20.900 Like, there's a difference between having a preference and figuring out, okay, someone

04:53:25.980 has a higher body count than me.

04:53:28.880 Okay.

04:53:29.080 I don't want to be with them.

04:53:30.200 Okay.

04:53:30.460 That's fine.

04:53:31.020 But if you're outright going like, oh, you're a fucking whore, then yeah, like that's hypocrite.

04:53:36.320 That's wrong.

04:53:36.920 Especially if you have a high body count yourself.

04:53:41.260 Okay.

04:53:41.740 So I'm not sure how you can say that being a hypocrite is even wrong.

04:53:45.900 What's the standard for saying that a hypocrite is wrong other than you just don't like it?

04:53:50.900 I guess I just don't like it.

04:53:52.940 Right.

04:53:53.460 You just don't like it.

04:53:54.340 So hypocrites give you the ick.

04:53:57.180 Hypocrites.

04:53:57.700 Let me ask you this too.

04:53:59.040 Is basically everything that you think is bad or immoral or that you don't like just shit

04:54:03.960 that gives you the ick?

04:54:05.040 Is it just stuff you find icky?

04:54:07.240 No.

04:54:08.700 No?

04:54:11.520 I'll say one thing on this, I guess, question.

04:54:16.240 So in order for you to want to be with someone, need you possess all the traits that they too

04:54:31.220 possess?

04:54:32.800 I mean, you don't have to.

04:54:34.520 Right.

04:54:34.840 But so.

04:54:36.660 Sorry.

04:54:37.280 You don't have to, not to interrupt you, but didn't we kind of already get into this back

04:54:42.640 at the whole like tradition standpoint when we were talking about tradition?

04:54:46.100 Well, a little bit, but it is somewhat different here.

04:54:50.040 But so.

04:54:51.080 In order for you to desire a trait in a partner, need you also have the trait?

04:54:56.840 No.

04:54:57.420 No.

04:54:57.760 Right.

04:54:58.240 But body count is different than trait.

04:55:00.440 So does body count matter?

04:55:01.640 It is.

04:55:02.000 Well, hold on.

04:55:02.620 So for example, I think, one, men and women want different things.

04:55:10.640 Men and women prioritize different things.

04:55:12.500 They prioritize different traits.

04:55:15.800 Would you then object or find it hypocritical for a woman who's broke to find a billionaire

04:55:21.120 attractive?

04:55:21.700 I mean, I guess you could say that since she doesn't, since she's not rich herself.

04:55:33.560 But is it, is it wrong for a woman who's dead broke to find rich men attractive or want

04:55:40.760 to date a man who's rich?

04:55:45.920 Is it hypocritical?

04:55:47.120 I mean, it could be since she doesn't possess the same financial situation.

04:55:55.940 Okay.

04:55:57.020 A woman may find a famous professional athlete, actor, musician attractive, but they may not

04:56:02.660 be a pro athlete, actor, musician themselves.

04:56:05.040 Is she hypocritical for finding men with status, athletes, actors, musicians?

04:56:10.940 Is it hypocritical for her to desire to be with such a man?

04:56:17.120 I don't know.

04:56:22.820 Okay.

04:56:23.080 What about funny?

04:56:24.880 A lot of women, funny is at the top of the list for a lot of women.

04:56:29.820 It's not clear to me if they're funny themselves.

04:56:33.380 So I'm not saying, what I'm saying is this woman in particular.

04:56:37.640 I'm saying the woman in particular.

04:56:40.560 I'm not saying women aren't funny.

04:56:42.380 Oh, I'm funny.

04:56:42.900 That's what Andrew says.

04:56:44.520 I make myself laugh.

04:56:45.940 Uh, but so is it hypocritical for a woman who's not funny herself to find men who are

04:56:52.580 funny attractive?

04:56:56.700 No, but it's, that's like a trait.

04:57:00.460 Body count is like something physical.

04:57:03.120 It's physical.

04:57:04.480 Okay.

04:57:04.980 So is it hypocritical then for short women to find tall men attractive?

04:57:08.880 I think it's just your preference, your type, what you like about that person.

04:57:14.000 That's right.

04:57:14.440 And men got a preference for women with a low body count.

04:57:16.800 Yeah.

04:57:18.060 Even if they're man-hose themselves.

04:57:21.600 Don't shoot the messenger.

04:57:23.120 Yeah, because they won't.

04:57:24.240 They're more likely to not take a woman seriously if she opens up the same day.

04:57:27.200 It doesn't mean that the preference can't be critical though.

04:57:28.700 Yeah.

04:57:28.860 Now let me, um, let me, let me ask this, uh, this kind of last, uh, segue here.

04:57:36.180 Um, so from your perspective, if the hypocritical part is that if a man slept with 500 women,

04:57:44.080 you slept with 500 men and he's judging you for that, you think that that is hypocritical

04:57:49.780 as the judgmental part, correct?

04:57:51.440 Yes.

04:57:52.240 Okay.

04:57:52.600 But what if he says, it's fine for you to judge me by the same standard I'm judging you is

04:57:56.060 that's no longer hypocritical, right?

04:57:58.240 Right.

04:57:58.940 Yeah.

04:57:59.380 Okay.

04:57:59.760 So if that is true and they're willing to be judged by the same standard that they're

04:58:04.000 judging you, but society happens to judge them for it in a totally different way and

04:58:09.120 you just don't like how they're being judged differently than you, how would that actually

04:58:14.100 make them a hypocrite?

04:58:19.020 Wait, repeat that again.

04:58:20.340 So here, let's do it.

04:58:22.860 Let's, uh, let's give an example.

04:58:24.900 Guy goes up to a room and he bangs five chicks in one night and he walks out and his buddies

04:58:30.040 are around and they're like, Hey bro, high five.

04:58:32.500 Right.

04:58:33.440 Woman does the same thing and they come out and they're like, Oh God, what a skank.

04:58:36.880 Right.

04:58:37.840 You, you would agree that this is a, probably a much more common occurrence than people want

04:58:42.360 to admit.

04:58:43.020 Yeah.

04:58:43.440 Right.

04:58:43.620 But here's the thing that's interesting is that even women judge those men by that, a different

04:58:49.140 standard than they judge other women.

04:58:51.040 So if the men are saying, okay, you can judge me by the same exact standard, then I'm judging

04:58:54.820 you.

04:58:55.600 It's just that people really don't like it men or women when you do it and don't care

04:58:59.740 so much when I do it.

04:59:01.240 How would that may actually make them a hypocrite?

04:59:03.100 That's true.

04:59:06.900 I mean, I guess if you're judging each other both in the same way and at the same level,

04:59:11.600 then yeah, it's not hypocritical, but I think it's, it's not fair, right?

04:59:18.700 It's not that it's not fair.

04:59:20.640 I think it's just a bit hypocritical to judge someone.

04:59:24.800 You just said it wasn't hypocritical.

04:59:25.780 When you've done the same actions.

04:59:26.860 No, no, no, no, you're just, you're, but you can be judged by the same standard.

04:59:31.560 Just so happens that when the standard is applied to you, people judge you less harshly

04:59:35.940 for it.

04:59:36.940 How would that be hypocritical?

04:59:41.100 And they just judge me.

04:59:42.800 Okay.

04:59:43.300 Wait.

04:59:48.160 Thank you.

04:59:49.000 Thanks, Ryan.

04:59:51.140 Okay.

04:59:52.020 You want me to move it on?

04:59:53.840 No, I think I get what you're saying.

04:59:55.900 I'm just like a little confused on the wording.

05:00:00.440 I don't know.

05:00:01.320 Maybe I'm just misinterpreting things.

05:00:04.500 Okay.

05:00:04.860 So let's put it this way.

05:00:06.520 If you call a woman a whore, that's offensive to women, right?

05:00:12.140 Yeah.

05:00:12.540 That's a harsh negative judgment.

05:00:13.920 Yeah.

05:00:14.340 Yeah.

05:00:14.860 If you call a man a whore, he goes, yeah, so what?

05:00:17.880 Right?

05:00:20.380 He goes, yeah, so what?

05:00:21.860 Now you're judging him by the same exact standard.

05:00:24.060 He's judging you.

05:00:25.020 So, hang on, hang on.

05:00:27.540 You're judging him by the same standard he's judging you.

05:00:30.920 He just doesn't give a shit, right?

05:00:33.860 Okay.

05:00:34.100 So how would he be a hypocrite?

05:00:35.520 He's using the same standard you're using.

05:00:37.800 Yeah.

05:00:38.080 He just doesn't give a shit about your standard, right?

05:00:40.400 Yeah.

05:00:40.720 Okay.

05:00:41.100 And again, my answer is it wouldn't be if you're judging each other at the same level.

05:00:44.800 Yeah.

05:00:45.440 And in the same way.

05:00:46.420 Yeah.

05:00:46.540 Right.

05:00:47.920 Right.

05:00:48.420 So that wouldn't be hypocrisy then.

05:00:52.760 Yeah.

05:00:53.700 Right.

05:00:54.720 Okay.

05:00:55.560 So, cool.

05:00:56.640 That's, we're in agreement then.

05:00:58.700 I'll move it on unless, Andrew, did you want to, you had more or?

05:01:03.320 No, no, no.

05:01:03.860 Okay.

05:01:04.080 So, before I get into the next thing, Andrew, Andrew was a very handsome man when he was

05:01:12.040 younger.

05:01:12.500 So, I want to bring it back to age gap dating really quick though.

05:01:15.080 Maybe, you know, Andrew, he's older now.

05:01:17.760 But would you guys date him when he was in his prime?

05:01:22.980 Yeah.

05:01:23.260 Let's see a photo.

05:01:23.780 I love the pictures.

05:01:25.520 By the way, Twitch.tv is, what the fuck?

05:01:26.860 There's no way.

05:01:27.880 Wait, where did that come from, bro?

05:01:31.020 Wait, why does he look like my brother?

05:01:32.020 Wait, how did, why is that even there?

05:01:34.440 Wait, what happened?

05:01:35.380 What, were you just like yanking it to fucking him back there or what?

05:01:39.420 He's just like my brother.

05:01:40.240 Why was he pulled up, bro?

05:01:41.860 Because he looks just like him.

05:01:43.220 Oh, like Andrew.

05:01:43.940 Okay, pull up Andrews.

05:01:45.300 Pull up Andrews.

05:01:45.880 Does Andrew look like him?

05:01:47.020 Oh, okay.

05:01:47.960 I can kind of see it.

05:01:49.000 So, Andrew, how old were you here?

05:01:52.760 I think, I think I was 19.

05:01:55.960 19.

05:01:56.540 Okay.

05:01:57.200 All right.

05:01:58.120 Going around the table, would you date Andrew Wilson?

05:02:02.920 Starting with you, man.

05:02:04.400 You mean 19-year-old Andrew Wilson.

05:02:06.040 Yeah, 19-year-old.

05:02:06.920 Okay, what about you?

05:02:07.700 Just based off looks?

05:02:08.720 Just off looks.

05:02:09.420 Like, don't disregard his feminist personality.

05:02:15.580 No, I'm sorry, Andrew.

05:02:17.160 Light that cigarette up, Andrew.

05:02:18.840 Light it up.

05:02:19.480 No.

05:02:19.940 No?

05:02:20.480 What about you?

05:02:21.480 I mean, I had way hotter chicks than you, so.

05:02:23.480 Oh, I'm glad.

05:02:24.700 That doesn't hurt my feelings.

05:02:26.440 I'm really glad.

05:02:27.420 By the way, Andrew.

05:02:28.820 I mean, did you see me?

05:02:30.140 Did you see me back then?

05:02:31.480 I mean, come on.

05:02:32.100 I was way out of your league.

05:02:33.100 Yeah, when you were in your prime, I believe you.

05:02:34.640 Let's face it.

05:02:35.040 Way out of your league.

05:02:35.840 We weren't even in the same year.

05:02:36.680 By the way, Andrew, somebody sent earlier on, somebody sent in the TTS asking if the

05:02:41.880 girls would date me, and they were all brutal.

05:02:44.640 They were all brutal.

05:02:45.860 So you can excoriate all the girls.

05:02:48.480 No, not all of them are brutal.

05:02:48.860 I have no problem whatsoever.

05:02:50.720 Go ahead.

05:02:52.920 Would you date young Andrew Wilson?

05:02:54.600 Pull the picture back up.

05:02:55.640 Yeah, one more time, man.

05:02:56.900 She needs it fresh.

05:02:57.940 She wants that double pic.

05:02:58.800 She needs it fresh.

05:02:59.540 Yeah.

05:02:59.560 Okay, yeah.

05:03:00.580 Oh, shit.

05:03:01.640 W. Andrew.

05:03:04.280 Oh, yeah.

05:03:05.100 Wait, say that one more time?

05:03:06.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:03:08.740 Okay.

05:03:10.700 Okay.

05:03:11.300 What about you?

05:03:12.600 No.

05:03:13.280 Is it because he's white?

05:03:16.000 No.

05:03:16.400 She's just not my type.

05:03:17.960 Oh, come on.

05:03:18.860 Back then?

05:03:20.000 Back then, I would have been like, who's this dorky chick with these Coke bottle glasses?

05:03:23.680 Get her out of here.

05:03:24.540 Get this chick out of here.

05:03:26.060 A friend of mine would have come over and been like, this is my friend, you know, Tanya

05:03:29.280 or whatever.

05:03:30.040 And I'd have been like, get this chick away from me.

05:03:31.640 What are you doing?

05:03:32.720 What are you doing?

05:03:33.700 But then look at you now.

05:03:34.200 Her prescription, it looks like she's wearing my mom's glasses.

05:03:37.180 What are you doing?

05:03:39.040 What's that?

05:03:40.040 Look at you now.

05:03:41.080 Oh, boy.

05:03:42.600 Oh, God.

05:03:46.400 Are you waiting for me?

05:03:51.680 Yeah.

05:03:52.040 Oh, I thought you were going to point me out.

05:03:54.440 In high school, yes, I would, but probably not in my age now or my type now.

05:04:01.060 Yeah, the redheads always did adore me.

05:04:03.240 Oh.

05:04:03.420 That's fair.

05:04:04.200 That's fair.

05:04:05.140 All right.

05:04:05.420 What about you?

05:04:06.700 I would only say no because you look, you remind me of my brother.

05:04:09.860 You kind of really look like my brother in that picture.

05:04:12.060 Huh?

05:04:12.780 I know.

05:04:13.460 So then I'd be like, I'm just not attracted to my brother, so.

05:04:18.800 Andrew, do you have anything more to say to this girl in the corner over here?

05:04:22.200 Do you have anything else?

05:04:23.180 Wait, why?

05:04:24.080 I don't know.

05:04:24.500 Yeah, let's just keep on.

05:04:25.420 I don't know.

05:04:26.380 You mean the Urkel chick over there?

05:04:28.240 I don't know.

05:04:28.600 The what?

05:04:29.520 I don't know.

05:04:30.200 Where does this self-esteem come from?

05:04:32.460 In that picture, right, it was soon after high school.

05:04:36.340 Why would you have passed a girl like you by in the hallway and just scoffed at you?

05:04:39.600 You weren't in my league.

05:04:41.980 What are you thinking?

05:04:42.920 Look at you.

05:04:44.140 And look at that picture of me.

05:04:45.560 Look at you, Andrew.

05:04:45.900 Not even in the same universe.

05:04:47.780 Andrew.

05:04:48.120 Why do we feel the need to insult the women who said no?

05:04:51.900 Why are you getting so butthurt?

05:04:53.400 Why do we feel the need to give and pass such harsh judgments towards the women who said no?

05:04:57.340 Why did they have to pass such harsh judgment on my 19-year-old son?

05:05:00.520 They just said no.

05:05:01.480 They just said no.

05:05:01.500 I said so bad, Andrew.

05:05:03.000 That guy in that picture is very sensitive.

05:05:04.620 Andrew, this is why you're not married.

05:05:07.160 He's very sensitive.

05:05:08.580 He actually is married, right?

05:05:09.140 He's a very sensitive young man.

05:05:10.640 Yeah, he is married.

05:05:12.960 Shit.

05:05:14.020 I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right look,

05:05:17.620 you can be very striking.

05:05:21.440 All right, that was pretty good.

05:05:25.440 Bring the wife in.

05:05:27.140 What about you?

05:05:27.680 At the age that I am now, no.

05:05:29.680 Too young.

05:05:30.480 What about when you were younger?

05:05:31.860 Would you have gone for him?

05:05:32.920 Yeah.

05:05:33.080 Probably, but then I would have breaking up by now.

05:05:37.060 Into the mic?

05:05:38.160 Yeah, probably, but I would have breaking up by now.

05:05:41.900 Why?

05:05:42.420 Because you're German?

05:05:43.780 No, because the way he looks now.

05:05:45.860 Oh.

05:05:46.600 Back then?

05:05:47.340 Yeah.

05:05:48.800 I think that's fair.

05:05:50.400 Brutal.

05:05:51.380 Morgan?

05:05:51.780 What's up, Andrew?

05:05:52.720 But you would have been SOL because I didn't date big girls, so I just, you would have been

05:05:58.300 SOL.

05:05:59.760 She's not big.

05:06:02.520 Okay.

05:06:03.000 Okay, well, that's so...

05:06:04.180 I think he was attractive, but I don't know.

05:06:07.100 I don't know.

05:06:07.760 Sorry, Andrew.

05:06:09.400 I don't know.

05:06:11.280 If I wasn't taken, yes.

05:06:14.620 Now, I want to throw my hat into the ring here.

05:06:17.160 I found...

05:06:18.720 Oh, my...

05:06:19.040 I'm not going to do it for less than a champagne pop.

05:06:21.500 I found a video of me at 22.

05:06:25.720 This is like 2012.

05:06:28.460 Shirtless.

05:06:29.380 Oh, poor.

05:06:30.260 I'm posing into a 480p webcam in my fucking small-ass bedroom with my karate belts hanging

05:06:40.120 in the back.

05:06:41.660 No, can we see it?

05:06:43.280 I'm only fucking doing it for a champagne pop.

05:06:46.120 I will only play this video for a champagne pop.

05:06:49.340 Please, someone give that champagne pop.

05:06:50.880 No one has a champagne pop.

05:06:52.760 But it's me flexing into...

05:06:54.400 Well, I can match it.

05:06:55.720 So, if there's five champagne pops, I found an old video of me the other day at that same

05:07:01.940 age where I was playing the guitar and roasting my sister, and it's fucking hilarious.

05:07:06.980 So, I'll see that and match it.

05:07:09.060 I think five champagne is...

05:07:10.360 What about one champagne pop for mine?

05:07:12.260 Oh, no.

05:07:12.680 No way I'm releasing that for less than five.

05:07:14.700 Five champagne.

05:07:15.460 Okay.

05:07:16.540 All right.

05:07:17.660 But, yeah, it's a video.

05:07:18.860 So, I'm cringey, I'm like cringey flexing into a webcam that's 480p.

05:07:27.240 Yeah, anyways.

05:07:29.660 Is it on standby?

05:07:31.420 I have it pretty much.

05:07:33.260 It's ready to go, pretty much.

05:07:34.800 Man, come on.

05:07:36.020 Come on, people.

05:07:37.040 So, champagne pop.

05:07:39.580 Anyways, moving on here a little bit.

05:07:41.740 We need to...

05:07:43.100 Oh, okay.

05:07:43.540 I think...

05:07:45.020 Oh, you said if women want the right to vote, then they must be in a mandatory draft.

05:07:49.740 Yeah.

05:07:50.340 I agree.

05:07:51.560 That's fair.

05:07:52.560 Yeah.

05:07:53.860 Oh, wait.

05:07:54.360 Fuck.

05:07:56.440 You agree?

05:07:58.240 I mean...

05:07:59.320 For the sake of equality, I think that would be fair.

05:08:05.620 Women should have to be drafted.

05:08:07.960 Well, traditionally, isn't that why women weren't able to vote?

05:08:14.080 Well, that's how men got the right to vote.

05:08:17.340 Right.

05:08:17.860 It's because they were drafted.

05:08:19.220 Essentially.

05:08:19.780 I mean, there's a lot of components, but to simplify it...

05:08:22.640 It's like a main driver.

05:08:23.780 That's...

05:08:24.300 Yeah, main driver.

05:08:25.660 Main driver.

05:08:26.880 Anyways, we won't linger on that one.

05:08:30.240 And then...

05:08:31.360 Going to Sophia, you are a financial analyst and a magician's assistant.

05:08:35.860 Are there any videos of you being a magician's assistant?

05:08:38.220 We should pull this shit up.

05:08:39.640 Because your boyfriend is a magician.

05:08:42.440 What?

05:08:42.760 Oh, wait.

05:08:43.440 That's awesome.

05:08:43.980 My fiance is a professional magician.

05:08:45.320 Can you show us a magic trick?

05:08:46.720 Or is that more so the purview of your boyfriend?

05:08:49.520 He's like, poof, you're taken.

05:08:51.440 What kind of magician?

05:08:52.520 Is he a street magician?

05:08:53.600 Stage magician?

05:08:54.800 He has his own show in South Lake Tahoe.

05:08:57.340 So come see us.

05:08:58.840 Alex Ramone.

05:08:59.740 Magic show.

05:09:00.380 He performs at Harvey's Lake Tahoe.

05:09:02.320 Do you have videos of you...

05:09:03.660 Yeah.

05:09:04.200 Getting cut in half.

05:09:04.700 Find that shit, Nick.

05:09:05.600 Yeah, let me see it.

05:09:06.140 Find that shit.

05:09:06.520 Let's cut her in half right now.

05:09:09.480 Has he been on Penn & Teller?

05:09:10.780 Yes, he actually won the show.

05:09:11.800 Are you kidding?

05:09:13.260 I love that show.

05:09:14.260 Oh, yeah?

05:09:15.000 Well, explain this magic trick then.

05:09:18.280 You see this Eminem wrapper?

05:09:19.640 Here we go.

05:09:20.860 Ready?

05:09:26.900 Whoa.

05:09:27.520 Oh, wow.

05:09:28.020 Beautiful.

05:09:28.540 Wow.

05:09:29.240 Yeah.

05:09:29.820 That was pretty amazing.

05:09:31.760 You know, those off-camera angles.

05:09:32.920 I'm going to pretend like you need to just make my dick go soft.

05:09:35.040 I got nothing.

05:09:38.140 Okay.

05:09:41.020 Oh, yeah.

05:09:42.300 I don't know why I pressed that one, but okay.

05:09:46.020 So you said...

05:09:47.380 Are we finding the video?

05:09:49.960 You said how women are setting themselves up to be single, how women can sabotage their

05:09:54.000 own relationships, how feminism has ruined unions between women and men.

05:09:57.940 Do you want to elaborate on all three of those?

05:10:04.460 Yeah.

05:10:05.680 Sure.

05:10:06.180 Okay.

05:10:06.320 Let's start with this first one here.

05:10:09.120 Women are setting themselves up to be single.

05:10:11.280 I believe that feminism is feeding women a lie.

05:10:16.040 It's leading them down a path of loneliness.

05:10:19.960 I don't see how a man would want you if you inherently believe that they're dangerous

05:10:25.440 and they can't offer you anything.

05:10:28.100 So under that guise, how can you possibly expect somebody to want to commit to you?

05:10:33.640 It doesn't make sense to me.

05:10:37.780 Okay.

05:10:38.800 Okay.

05:10:39.660 Moving on.

05:10:40.340 My next statement.

05:10:42.560 I have to read it.

05:10:43.600 I've heard it.

05:10:43.700 Yeah.

05:10:43.960 You also wrote, modern dating is trash.

05:10:46.240 Hookup culture is the epitome of instant gratification and slowly chips away at especially

05:10:49.980 women's self-worth.

05:10:51.500 I believe women pretend to be things to look attractive to men, then get the attention

05:10:55.220 they seek, so their behavior gets more and more extreme.

05:10:58.120 They're being tossed around and used.

05:10:59.600 We wonder why depression is at an all-time high.

05:11:04.440 Hit it on the nail.

05:11:05.780 Oh, this is an easy panel.

05:11:08.620 I was not expecting this tonight.

05:11:10.340 Okay.

05:11:10.540 And then I guess the other thing, you tend to agree with Brian on most things, except

05:11:13.340 his stance on marriage.

05:11:14.560 I believe marriage is important and look forward to getting married.

05:11:17.420 Yeah.

05:11:17.900 And I'm surprised you flipped your stance.

05:11:19.860 It sounds like.

05:11:20.700 Oh, no, I'm still against marriage.

05:11:22.380 Okay.

05:11:22.920 But I'm saying I could also become a stage magician in the future.

05:11:27.820 If you know anyone, you could find your wife.

05:11:30.860 Actually, I wanted to be a magician when I was younger.

05:11:32.980 That's fun.

05:11:33.760 Should have followed your dreams.

05:11:34.700 Never happened.

05:11:35.380 Why didn't you?

05:11:36.160 I didn't have the dexterity for the card stuff.

05:11:38.900 It's rough.

05:11:39.700 Or windows with your hands to see through.

05:11:42.560 That's a big problem.

05:11:44.020 It was very difficult.

05:11:45.180 It was a hard time for me.

05:11:47.140 So the marriage stuff, I mean, do you want to make it?

05:11:50.860 How about this?

05:11:51.680 I've already laid out my arguments plenty of times.

05:11:54.140 Why don't you give me a compelling reason why I or other men who are marriage hesitant should get married?

05:12:02.760 Let me answer your question with a question.

05:12:05.080 Do you want children?

05:12:07.560 Let me answer your question with an immediate rebuttal.

05:12:10.580 You don't need to be married to have children.

05:12:12.420 Well, that's correct.

05:12:13.380 But thinking about the well-being of your child and setting them up for the most success, that's why I'm asking the question.

05:12:21.840 So do you believe in a partner for life and just not getting married?

05:12:24.500 Yeah, you can be in a monogamous, long-term relationship for the entire duration of your life and have children.

05:12:31.340 I fail to see how it would set them up better if you're married, especially given the divorce rate.

05:12:37.200 And divorce seems to have a very negative impact on children.

05:12:39.720 So what about a prenup?

05:12:41.920 Do you believe in that?

05:12:42.240 What about it?

05:12:43.160 I mean, you could have a prenup.

05:12:44.500 What does that have to do with anything?

05:12:46.300 I mean, if a prenup still doesn't undo the damage that a divorce has done to a child.

05:12:50.980 That's true.

05:12:52.440 I think that's what he was talking about.

05:12:54.180 Keep going.

05:12:55.120 No, I'm going.

05:12:56.700 Keep going.

05:12:57.180 What else?

05:12:57.580 Okay.

05:12:58.040 So, sure, I want kids.

05:12:59.740 Go ahead.

05:13:00.420 So would you be in a long-term relationship?

05:13:01.820 No, this is her time.

05:13:03.200 This is her time.

05:13:03.720 I'm sorry.

05:13:04.420 I'm sorry that we were all talking.

05:13:05.900 Her time.

05:13:06.400 I feel like I can smell the smoke.

05:13:07.860 I mean, in my opinion, a woman is going to seek marriage because she wants the security that it offers.

05:13:16.020 It certainly sets a boundary around the relationship.

05:13:18.880 Yeah, that's what the woman wants.

05:13:20.680 Correct.

05:13:20.980 In fact, I asked you, why should a man get married?

05:13:26.160 Because a marriage...

05:13:27.980 For the benefit of the woman.

05:13:30.440 Right.

05:13:30.900 That's what the woman wants and requires.

05:13:33.420 I'm selfish.

05:13:35.340 Okay, then.

05:13:35.980 Actually, I'm not even selfish.

05:13:37.020 Hold on.

05:13:37.320 That's a poor argument.

05:13:38.780 What's the benefits towards the man?

05:13:41.340 You get a committed woman, but if you're not willing...

05:13:43.160 I can get a committed woman without marriage.

05:13:44.860 Then you don't need to get married.

05:13:45.860 Then great.

05:13:47.400 That's fine for you.

05:13:48.560 Come on.

05:13:49.020 You need to make a stronger argument than that if you're going to convince me that marriage is good.

05:13:52.920 If you can find a woman who is perfectly okay with not getting married and having your children, then I'm happy for you.

05:14:00.780 So, me personally speaking, I would not be okay with that.

05:14:04.260 And I believe that a lot of women, might I say high value women, would not be okay with such an arrangement.

05:14:11.420 Because the woman is risking more in that exchange.

05:14:16.280 How is she risking more?

05:14:17.620 Well, if she is having a baby, now she's sacrificing her body potentially.

05:14:23.640 If she has a career and a source of income, she's now going to hopefully quit that and become a full-time mother.

05:14:31.860 So, she relies on the father to provide the source of income.

05:14:36.100 So, that's why...

05:14:36.440 Oh, no.

05:14:37.760 No.

05:14:38.160 She had to not go to work every day?

05:14:40.340 Oh, it's terrible.

05:14:40.660 No, it's a blessing.

05:14:41.860 It's a super high risk that she had to stay at home and not go to work every day.

05:14:45.580 I agree with you.

05:14:46.700 No, earlier on this podcast, I was saying how I could have been the perfect poster child for feminism.

05:14:52.500 Because I have proven to be independent.

05:14:55.320 I bought my own home.

05:14:57.060 I can provide for myself.

05:14:58.720 And I absolutely hate having a job.

05:15:01.980 I tell my fiancé all the time, like, when can I quit my job and fold your laundry?

05:15:05.940 Like, I would love to do that every day.

05:15:08.160 So, I agree with you.

05:15:09.560 So, it's a really good deal to be able to stay at home.

05:15:12.300 It sure seems to be.

05:15:13.200 I don't know why, if you're saying it's a good deal, though, why you think that women would demand that they be married in order to get this deal.

05:15:20.400 If somebody gave them the same deal and they weren't married, from a secularist perspective, why should they get married?

05:15:25.520 I think the marriage just provides the security that that is going to be provided to them.

05:15:31.260 Okay.

05:15:31.680 So, then let's see if we test this, if this is true.

05:15:35.040 Let's say the man says, okay, I'll get married to you if you sign a prenup that says, no matter why we get divorced, I get to keep everything that I bring into the marriage.

05:15:42.480 And so do you.

05:15:44.600 Would you sign that?

05:15:45.580 I think that certainly puts a boundary around the woman's behavior and motivates her to behave in a certain way in the marriage and make sure that the marriage doesn't deteriorate.

05:15:56.300 So, I think that's a good motivation.

05:15:58.220 Yeah, great.

05:15:58.800 So, then if that is the case, then you could definitely have that exact same relationship absent marriage, right?

05:16:04.960 I see what you're saying.

05:16:16.560 I personally would not be comfortable with it.

05:16:19.500 Why not?

05:16:21.900 I believe that man and woman is supposed to get married.

05:16:25.220 I mean, you got married yourself, right?

05:16:27.520 Yeah, I'm religious.

05:16:28.500 Okay.

05:16:29.640 Yeah.

05:16:30.040 Are you religious?

05:16:31.200 Yes.

05:16:32.240 Yeah.

05:16:32.480 So, then that would, I can understand, and Brian also argues this as well.

05:16:37.500 He understands why there would be motivation for religious people to get married.

05:16:40.860 But what I don't understand is why there's any motivation for a secularist to get married.

05:16:45.600 I don't actually understand that.

05:16:47.440 Because you can have all of those same exact things absent the marriage.

05:16:52.460 So, I don't even understand what the point is.

05:16:54.960 I agree.

05:16:56.740 Because I think a marriage is also a contract with God.

05:17:00.900 Wait, if I can actually jump in on this also.

05:17:06.060 Even the objections that I raise as to the negatives of marriage, these also apply to religious men, too.

05:17:17.400 Yeah.

05:17:18.860 Unless they get a covenant marriage.

05:17:20.520 So, you can have a covenant marriage and not involve the state.

05:17:27.100 Right.

05:17:27.340 And then it's not nearly so egregious.

05:17:31.040 But assuming even then for a second that you do involve the state, at least I understand that motivation.

05:17:37.200 Because you're filling out your teleology.

05:17:40.140 So, like you said, you said your purpose is to get married, right?

05:17:42.920 So, that's part of your telos or what you consider your purpose to be.

05:17:46.720 Yes.

05:17:46.980 So, that's part of your religion.

05:17:48.700 I get that.

05:17:49.600 I understand that motivation.

05:17:51.080 It makes total sense to me.

05:17:52.920 What I don't understand, though, is from a secularist perspective, non-religious perspective, what motivation they could possibly have for it.

05:18:00.000 Because it just doesn't seem like what would there actually be.

05:18:03.580 Yeah.

05:18:03.920 No, I understand why you're asking that question, especially with divorce and the way that that goes over for men.

05:18:10.580 They get the shorter end of the stick, almost guaranteed.

05:18:15.300 So, I understand why men don't want to get married.

05:18:18.800 I do.

05:18:21.200 Yeah.

05:18:21.620 Well, could you give a single argument, then, from Brian's perspective, who's not religious, why you should actually get married?

05:18:31.060 Hmm.

05:18:33.980 I don't think I can.

05:18:35.400 Why shouldn't Brian be able to have his cake and eat it, too?

05:18:40.040 If he can find a woman who's okay with that, truly, who would be honest and wouldn't hold resentment, then that's great.

05:18:48.840 Yeah, but, I mean, you run that same risk, even if you're married.

05:18:52.820 That a woman could be being dishonest and holding resentment.

05:18:56.780 Like, these are not exclusive to secularists, nor Christians, nor Muslims, nor whoever.

05:19:03.080 Right?

05:19:03.580 Whoever gets married, this is still a possibility.

05:19:05.920 Yeah, but I'm speaking specifically to the idea that the woman, her own morals, she's not okay with a relationship that's not in a marriage, but yet she agrees to it and she allows herself to be in that relationship.

05:19:22.520 And so, the resentment is harbored from the lack of legality of the marriage is what I'm specifically talking to.

05:19:29.640 But, yes, resentment can exist.

05:19:31.300 I don't even know what perks you would get from the legality purpose at this point.

05:19:35.400 What, like a couple of tax breaks?

05:19:36.640 Tax write-off?

05:19:37.520 Yeah.

05:19:37.660 You know, some earned income child credits, maybe?

05:19:41.240 It doesn't seem like it's worth it.

05:19:42.920 Mm-hmm.

05:19:44.020 So, I really, like, I've tried to rationalize this.

05:19:47.880 How do you convince a guy like Brian, from a Christian perspective, that they should get married?

05:19:53.200 And I do have good arguments for this, but the women on these panels never do.

05:19:59.900 They never have any, because they only think of it from the perspective of self, which is, oh, it's to protect the woman.

05:20:05.880 It's to do good by the woman.

05:20:07.220 Everything's for the woman.

05:20:08.020 I'm also thinking of it from the perspective of the child, too, though.

05:20:09.920 And so, if your child asks you, Mom, why didn't you ever marry Dad, you have to be prepared to answer that.

05:20:16.800 And I would assume that a child would want their parents to have a union that's sacred.

05:20:23.140 Yeah, but why, I mean, again, that's from a religious perspective, because you use the word sacred, right?

05:20:30.860 Secularists don't believe in sacred nothing.

05:20:33.360 So, if there's this saying, Mommy and Daddy love each other, and there's these little chemicals in our brains that make us love each other,

05:20:40.000 because that's the way that we're constructed, and we love you, too, because there's chemicals in our brain that make us love you, too.

05:20:46.040 And we're going to stay together forever and ever, and that seems to work from a monogamous standpoint.

05:20:52.260 I don't actually know why they would ever want to take the risk of getting the state involved in getting married.

05:20:57.840 I don't actually understand why they would do that.

05:20:59.780 It seems like the dumbest decision possible.

05:21:16.040 W's in the chat.

05:21:18.960 Don't get married, boys.

05:21:21.820 I agree with him.

05:21:23.560 I don't want to get married.

05:21:25.760 W Macy's in the chat.

05:21:27.240 I just need you to know, though, that I have an ulterior motive for this, and I don't know if I'm going to go to hell for it or not.

05:21:36.740 I sure hope I don't.

05:21:37.700 But my ulterior motive is I want all secularists to end up being genetic dead ends and not to breed so that the religious take over.

05:21:47.080 That's ultimately, I would prefer that.

05:21:50.000 So if I can give all secularists motivations to not have a healthy, happy marriage and to instead just embrace complete and total selfishness, I actually would prefer that for society.

05:22:02.960 I think that the ends of that would be better.

05:22:04.840 Well, then.

05:22:05.640 Nice.

05:22:13.420 Good times.

05:22:15.040 Good times.

05:22:19.060 Anyways, I think that's it for all the pre-show notes.

05:22:21.700 We're going to get into a couple more things here.

05:22:23.660 Nick, were there any reacts we had to do?

05:22:25.520 I think we need Macy and you to stand up.

05:22:35.640 I'm going to put it up one more time just so, because Andrew wasn't here.

05:22:37.980 He needs to see this.

05:22:41.540 I'll stand up first this time.

05:22:43.360 Okay.

05:22:43.800 Okay.

05:22:45.160 Excuse me.

05:22:47.160 He's only as tall as I can.

05:22:48.820 Oh, chair.

05:22:56.740 No comment?

05:22:58.480 Nice.

05:23:00.220 I think you've got to hit that cricket button one more time.

05:23:03.520 All right, cool.

05:23:05.640 She's taller than you, Andrew.

05:23:09.940 What do you think of that?

05:23:13.600 I mean, it happens.

05:23:14.940 It happens.

05:23:16.320 It happens.

05:23:17.920 So I do want to, just show of hands, I mean, we kind of did this again, but I want to get

05:23:22.280 into a bit more detail here.

05:23:23.660 Who's a feminist?

05:23:24.800 Show of hands.

05:23:26.320 I guess.

05:23:26.800 By Andrew's definition that he provided earlier.

05:23:31.900 Now suddenly nobody's a feminist.

05:23:34.420 They're not a feminist anymore.

05:23:36.260 Can you pull up the Google definition?

05:23:42.640 I guess.

05:23:44.880 I guess we could do that.

05:23:47.440 While we do that, just going around the table, what do you think of, or what do you think of,

05:23:53.560 oh my God.

05:23:53.980 Okay, so the Google definition, the advocacy of women's rights and the basis of equality

05:23:58.280 of the sexes.

05:23:59.840 So an entailment of equality of the sexes is going to be rejection of patriarchy, otherwise

05:24:04.980 you can't be equal, right?

05:24:06.380 You would agree that that's true?

05:24:07.360 So then my definition was absolutely correct, right?

05:24:13.080 Yeah.

05:24:14.340 Okay.

05:24:15.540 Perfect.

05:24:18.020 Let's see.

05:24:18.800 So going around the table, I'll just ask my stack.

05:24:22.780 Who is the primary victim of war, men or women?

05:24:27.540 War?

05:24:28.280 Yeah.

05:24:28.600 Who's the primary victim of war, men or women?

05:24:30.760 Men.

05:24:31.580 Men.

05:24:33.040 Men.

05:24:34.260 I think both.

05:24:35.560 Both?

05:24:35.920 Men.

05:24:36.700 Men.

05:24:37.360 Men.

05:24:38.060 Equally.

05:24:38.980 Men.

05:24:39.300 Equally.

05:24:40.220 Men.

05:24:42.580 Did the German girl say equally?

05:24:44.560 Okay.

05:24:47.100 So why and why, for those of you who said equally?

05:24:51.900 I think everyone suffers from war, right?

05:24:54.580 Like there's, yeah, there are more fatalities within men, but suffrage is different, right?

05:25:00.680 Everyone suffers, so equally they both suffer.

05:25:04.140 Are there different degrees of suffering?

05:25:05.940 Like somebody who stubs their toe, for example, suffers less than somebody who loses a family member.

05:25:15.060 Would you agree with that statement?

05:25:17.060 Sorry, could you repeat that one more time?

05:25:24.060 You're saying that.

05:25:24.800 What?

05:25:26.180 Repeat that one more time.

05:25:28.120 You said.

05:25:29.220 Okay.

05:25:29.580 Somebody who stubs their toe, they bang their toe on a corner versus somebody who loses a family member.

05:25:37.800 Which is worse.

05:25:40.340 Is the suffering worse?

05:25:41.520 Well, obviously, obviously the person who lost a family member is worse.

05:25:44.980 Are you saying like between men and women whose suffering is worse because men, for example, and then women, for example?

05:25:52.100 Well, I mean, you said everybody suffers, therefore it's equal.

05:25:58.980 But granting that women will suffer in war, is the suffering equal to the suffering of men?

05:26:06.640 Knowing what you know about war.

05:26:07.780 Well, obviously they're different, right?

05:26:08.920 But the way that women have to suffer, they lose a son, they lose a brother, they lose a dad.

05:26:14.580 That suffering, you can't compare the two, but that suffering, you can't say that that suffering is less than men suffering because they're dying in war or they're getting shot up in war.

05:26:26.280 So, well, okay, the question is who's the primary victim?

05:26:29.620 So, when it comes to, I guess, victimhood status, are you more a victim if you're murdered as compared to being the family of the murdered?

05:26:44.440 I think.

05:26:45.660 I'm not saying.

05:26:46.440 I'm sure the suffering.

05:26:47.700 I'm sure it'd be awful to have a family member murdered, but they didn't get murdered.

05:26:54.920 You still didn't get murdered.

05:26:55.740 Let me ask you a question.

05:26:57.020 Would you rather be murdered or would you rather someone you know got murdered and deal with the suffering that would come along with that?

05:27:05.340 I'd rather both of us not get murdered.

05:27:07.820 Can you engage with a hypothetical?

05:27:10.500 No, I don't want to.

05:27:12.860 Why not?

05:27:14.620 Because I don't want to.

05:27:16.820 I don't want to think about it.

05:27:17.560 It's not even like a crazy, controversial.

05:27:21.660 Either way, my actions, I think both are suffering.

05:27:22.540 You don't have the mental constitution to.

05:27:25.120 No, I'm saying I don't want to think about it at all.

05:27:29.600 Just that in itself.

05:27:30.760 I don't want to think about it.

05:27:31.720 But my answer still stays, right?

05:27:33.620 I think both suffer.

05:27:35.340 Both are victims.

05:27:39.180 Okay.

05:27:39.660 Question.

05:27:40.020 Your, your cousin is murdered.

05:27:46.940 Would you prefer that over you being murdered?

05:27:55.380 Would I rather have my cousin murdered or me be murdered?

05:27:58.260 Yes.

05:27:59.260 In terms of perhaps the framing could be like, what is a, what would have a bigger impact on you?

05:28:06.820 Of course my cousin being murdered would have a bigger impact as me being murdered.

05:28:10.240 How the fuck would I remember that right?

05:28:11.700 All right.

05:28:12.000 I'm moving it over.

05:28:13.020 Oh, here.

05:28:13.660 Hang on.

05:28:14.060 Hang on.

05:28:14.440 Let me just engage very quickly.

05:28:15.900 In life, are you going to suffer?

05:28:19.900 Everyone suffers.

05:28:20.780 Yes.

05:28:21.600 Is it preferable to live even though you suffer?

05:28:25.940 Sorry, what?

05:28:26.760 I was reading that.

05:28:27.300 Is it preferable to live even though you suffer?

05:28:30.640 Yes.

05:28:31.680 Okay.

05:28:32.100 Well then if it's preferable to live even though you suffer, then if men are dying and you're not,

05:28:37.820 then isn't it preferable for you to be in the state where you're not dying and so can live to suffer?

05:28:47.720 No.

05:28:48.560 I'd rather kill myself because I don't want to see my men, my brothers, my dad, all the men around me to die and then me suffer watching that.

05:29:01.100 Okay.

05:29:01.540 So you said it's equal.

05:29:07.060 Why do you think that?

05:29:08.360 Because I think if there is war in your country, it's just like it's terrible even if you're not drafted.

05:29:17.460 And I think if your partner or family member or friend dies in war, I think it's, I'd say it's also terrible for you.

05:29:26.620 Well, let me ask you about a recent conflict.

05:29:28.400 Because they have to live with that.

05:29:29.460 You're from Germany.

05:29:30.460 You live in Europe.

05:29:31.060 You're not too far away from Ukraine.

05:29:33.480 In Ukraine, all the women could leave the country.

05:29:38.420 Men between the ages of 18 and either 60 or 65.

05:29:41.740 I need to figure out what the actual number is.

05:29:44.340 Men had to stay in the country.

05:29:46.860 They could not leave the country.

05:29:49.280 Men are overwhelmingly the casualties of war in the Ukraine conflict, the civilian and the military casualties.

05:29:56.920 Knowing that all women, if they were inclined to, could flee the country and all men had to stay, in this specific conflict, would you say that the suffering experienced comparatively between Ukrainian women and Ukrainian men is comparable, is equal?

05:30:13.440 I think it's really hard to tell, but I've not seen any of those men, but I've seen kids on the street who were allowed to come to our countries suffer and cry for their parents or dad because they don't have them anymore.

05:30:27.700 And I think that's pretty much equal.

05:30:31.520 Well, I would imagine the distribution of children is 50-50 about between boys and girls.

05:30:41.480 So the suffering between boys and girls would be equalized.

05:30:47.340 I mean, little boys are not forced to stay in Ukraine.

05:30:51.240 No, but I'm saying they can flee, but the question is between men and women.

05:30:57.560 But the children, the distribution there is probably fairly equal, 50-50-50.

05:31:03.340 So you have both boys and girls who are suffering.

05:31:08.520 Yeah.

05:31:08.800 Yeah.

05:31:11.480 Okay.

05:31:12.040 Do you think they're suffering equally?

05:31:15.180 The kids, yeah.

05:31:17.460 Right.

05:31:17.980 Okay.

05:31:18.260 Let me ask you this.

05:31:22.480 When it comes to suffering, are people capable of moving on from the death of a loved one?

05:31:29.460 I don't know.

05:31:31.260 You've never had a loved one die?

05:31:32.780 No.

05:31:33.760 Never?

05:31:34.400 Never.

05:31:35.260 Okay.

05:31:35.980 But do you concede that there are people who have loved ones die every day and they are able over time to move on?

05:31:41.480 From those traumas, right?

05:31:43.100 I'm sure there are.

05:31:44.640 But I'm sure there are.

05:31:45.240 Yeah.

05:31:45.260 Can you move on?

05:31:45.920 Hang on.

05:31:46.420 I'm sure there are.

05:31:47.320 Can you move on from death?

05:31:49.680 No.

05:31:50.700 No.

05:31:51.320 So then how are these even close to equally yoked?

05:31:53.720 If you can move on from the suffering of a loved one dying, but you can't move on from death.

05:31:57.160 How can you ever compare and say that the victims then primarily would be both?

05:32:03.840 It would only be one, right?

05:32:05.360 You could at least recover from the suffering of the lost beloved one, but can you recover from death?

05:32:12.020 No, you can't.

05:32:13.180 No.

05:32:13.360 But you don't have to suffer through the life after.

05:32:17.180 Oh, but wait.

05:32:19.420 So suffering, death is preferable to suffering?

05:32:25.460 I mean, no.

05:32:27.540 I guess not.

05:32:28.240 Okay.

05:32:28.880 I guess not.

05:32:30.040 Isn't in your life, haven't you suffered?

05:32:34.400 Not as bad as...

05:32:36.480 I'm not saying as bad, but you have suffered, right?

05:32:38.620 Yeah, and I noticed that you're still quite alive.

05:32:42.780 And you probably likely prefer to be alive, correct?

05:32:46.440 Yeah, because my worst suffering was when I hurt myself.

05:32:50.080 When I, like, got injured or something, like, nothing terrible.

05:32:54.120 Mm-hmm.

05:32:55.200 Yeah, so, but the thing is, is that even though you suffer, you still prefer life.

05:32:59.440 So let me ask you this.

05:33:00.800 If you could ask all of the dead soldiers on the battlefield that one question,

05:33:04.880 would you prefer that I brought you back to life, even though you would suffer,

05:33:09.780 or would you prefer to be dead?

05:33:11.380 Which answer do you think they'd give you?

05:33:14.720 Honestly, after what the soldiers experienced on the battlefield,

05:33:19.700 seeing friends being blown up by bombs, I think they would not want to live anymore.

05:33:24.940 Oh, okay.

05:33:25.940 Gotcha.

05:33:26.940 So you think that they would prefer to be dead.

05:33:29.180 That's awful convenient that you think that the people who have to die in lieu of you

05:33:33.740 because you can't be drafted nor be sent to war

05:33:36.260 would prefer to be dead over having to suffer,

05:33:39.480 but you have an equal claim to their suffering

05:33:42.160 because, after all, you're still alive and have to deal with the aftermath, right?

05:33:46.760 Poor, poor you, poor you.

05:33:50.200 No, okay, I...

05:33:51.480 They would prefer to be dead, right?

05:33:53.120 They would prefer it.

05:33:54.140 They wouldn't want to be alive.

05:33:57.120 I didn't, no, I'm talking for myself.

05:33:58.820 I just can't imagine that I still would want to live,

05:34:01.400 but I also see your point that it's, like, yeah,

05:34:04.960 I'd probably agree that men who are drafted have it harder

05:34:08.480 if they actually have to fight there.

05:34:10.900 What if they just volunteer?

05:34:12.560 They still have it harder.

05:34:14.740 Yeah, yeah, of course, but if they volunteer,

05:34:17.640 I think it's way different than if you have to...

05:34:20.920 Yeah, I don't think it's way different.

05:34:22.020 So let's try this.

05:34:23.140 Dear Amanda, I've been in the trenches for 15 months,

05:34:26.720 fighting a brutal war.

05:34:28.060 I can't wait to get home to you and my three young children.

05:34:31.360 Wait for me, my dear.

05:34:32.660 I love you.

05:34:33.860 Boom!

05:34:34.280 A grenade goes off and blows him to smithereens.

05:34:37.280 You think that he would prefer to stay dead

05:34:40.320 rather than have to deal with the suffering

05:34:42.640 of his friends getting killed on the battlefield.

05:34:46.760 Is that really your position,

05:34:48.600 after you think about it for even one second?

05:34:50.780 No, I think for some people it is that way.

05:34:53.100 I'm not talking about everyone.

05:34:54.420 Sure, some, but, I mean,

05:34:55.580 I mean, not even the vast majority, right?

05:34:57.840 It can't even be that way for the vast majority of them.

05:35:01.200 I think if you live through horrible things

05:35:05.120 and war and experience horrible things,

05:35:07.500 some people probably don't want to live anymore with that.

05:35:11.680 Okay, well, I'll give you a...

05:35:13.120 I'll just end this real quick

05:35:14.020 so Brian can move it on with a final quote

05:35:15.940 from a famous movie called Full Metal Jacket.

05:35:18.640 One of the most famous lines from that movie was,

05:35:21.040 The dead only know one thing,

05:35:23.580 that it's better to be alive.

05:35:26.820 Hmm.

05:35:28.580 Those were some new arguments, by the way, Andrew.

05:35:30.560 Those were very good.

05:35:34.140 Now, I think there's a bit of confusion here also, though,

05:35:37.220 because we're trying to compare the degrees of suffering.

05:35:42.820 It's not really the question, though.

05:35:44.180 It's who is the primary victim of war, men or women.

05:35:51.140 I just find that interesting.

05:35:54.080 In any case, though, Natalie,

05:35:57.520 at least in the Ukraine example,

05:35:59.820 you have not been convinced

05:36:01.080 that men are the primary victims of war.

05:36:02.860 Well, yeah, I see your point,

05:36:10.540 and I think it makes sense,

05:36:12.960 but I don't know.

05:36:18.180 I wouldn't say it's much more of a victim,

05:36:20.300 but yeah, probably a little bit more.

05:36:24.780 What about you?

05:36:26.700 I believe that men have it worse.

05:36:30.280 Men's lives are harder.

05:36:31.100 Why is it so hard for some women to acknowledge,

05:36:34.240 like, you can acknowledge, like,

05:36:36.140 women have it worse in this way,

05:36:37.480 this way, this way, this way,

05:36:38.380 this way, this way, this way, this way.

05:36:40.060 But even in the one that appears so obvious,

05:36:43.620 you can't even grant to men one grievance,

05:36:47.600 one way in which they can become,

05:36:51.240 can be considered a victim.

05:36:53.560 I find that really interesting.

05:36:55.600 Men are still the victim,

05:37:00.860 just a lot of people are the victim

05:37:02.500 if there's war.

05:37:03.460 But, I mean, if we're doing a comparison,

05:37:05.200 so feminism, the genesis of feminism,

05:37:06.840 is a comparison between men and women.

05:37:09.200 Men have it better in X way.

05:37:11.420 Men have this right.

05:37:12.740 Women get mistreated in this way.

05:37:15.980 But it's interesting,

05:37:17.040 you can't even, in this situation,

05:37:19.100 I think there's no doubts that men are more,

05:37:21.300 like, if you look at death rates, for example,

05:37:25.480 throughout all of human history,

05:37:27.840 you look at World War I,

05:37:30.100 you look at World War II,

05:37:31.120 there's tens of millions of male-only military deaths.

05:37:36.960 And so, I think we can tie it up

05:37:39.640 pretty easy with this idea.

05:37:43.400 If I were to ask you this question,

05:37:45.680 do men or women suffer more during childbirth?

05:37:49.640 Women?

05:37:51.660 Women?

05:37:52.260 You want everybody,

05:37:53.300 or just the people who said?

05:37:54.340 Just the people who said war.

05:37:55.820 Do men or women suffer more during childbirth?

05:37:58.300 Women.

05:37:59.480 Yeah, probably.

05:38:00.260 Wait, women?

05:38:01.580 What about my trauma

05:38:02.560 from seeing my poor woman

05:38:04.680 going through all that agony and pain,

05:38:06.840 and I can't do anything about it,

05:38:08.500 and then I have to live with that?

05:38:10.460 Then you're also a victim.

05:38:11.800 I have to live with the fact that she was in,

05:38:13.720 wait, why would she be the primary victim?

05:38:15.520 What about my trauma?

05:38:16.920 What about my suffering

05:38:17.880 from having to see that?

05:38:19.260 Oh my God, you also have trauma then.

05:38:22.020 You're also a victim.

05:38:23.480 Yeah, I'm a total, I'm total victim.

05:38:24.980 In fact, wouldn't you say

05:38:26.280 that I'm an equal victim?

05:38:29.080 If you want to be, yeah.

05:38:30.960 Okay.

05:38:31.540 Well then, I guess, I guess,

05:38:33.460 I want to, so over to the one

05:38:34.660 who's not trolling,

05:38:35.600 doesn't have the stupid Coke bottle glasses.

05:38:37.460 Can you answer my question?

05:38:38.660 Are men or women the primary victim

05:38:42.180 of pregnancy, pain, and childbirth?

05:38:46.260 Well, women, but I also think it's...

05:38:49.020 Wait, why?

05:38:49.800 Why are women the primary victims of that?

05:38:52.540 Because their body suffers.

05:38:54.880 Oh, and whose body suffers in the war?

05:38:57.340 Okay, but...

05:39:00.460 Oh, oops, oops, oops, oops.

05:39:04.200 No, no, no, oops.

05:39:05.520 But the...

05:39:06.200 Gotcha, bitch.

05:39:06.860 No, oops.

05:39:08.020 No, oops.

05:39:08.900 Wait, go ahead, continue.

05:39:10.140 Go ahead.

05:39:10.540 But for the war,

05:39:12.660 the man just stands there in a hospital

05:39:15.800 and has to help the woman a little bit,

05:39:17.940 but for war, the...

05:39:19.060 No, no, no, no, it's the trauma.

05:39:20.560 Don't you understand?

05:39:21.320 It's the trauma.

05:39:22.380 It's the fact that I have to live

05:39:24.260 with the fact that I couldn't do anything

05:39:26.580 while she was going through

05:39:27.980 all that pain and agony,

05:39:29.940 and it's haunted me forever.

05:39:32.560 How am I not at the same scale of victim

05:39:35.460 as she is,

05:39:36.860 even though it's her body

05:39:38.040 that's being ripped asunder?

05:39:39.840 Can you explain that to me?

05:39:43.900 I just don't think childbirth

05:39:46.460 is that traumatizing.

05:39:48.140 Oh, yeah, well, I just, you know,

05:39:49.640 I just don't think that you not getting blown up

05:39:51.680 is as traumatizing as getting blown up either,

05:39:53.880 but, you know, what do I know?

05:39:55.840 It is traumatizing to getting blown up.

05:39:59.220 Yes, is it more traumatizing

05:40:01.000 for the loved one to get blown up

05:40:02.480 or for you to get blown up?

05:40:04.680 Probably for you to get blown up.

05:40:06.780 Yeah, probably for you to get blown up,

05:40:08.520 so then, therefore,

05:40:09.480 the primary victims of war

05:40:10.900 would have to be...

05:40:13.280 Men.

05:40:14.300 Yeah, men.

05:40:15.760 Yeah!

05:40:16.540 I'm proud of you.

05:40:17.120 You got it.

05:40:17.600 Oh, boy.

05:40:20.240 Okay.

05:40:20.880 Let me read some chats.

05:40:21.760 We have a few more questions.

05:40:23.020 We have Law Paladins.

05:40:24.500 I'm curious if she even knows

05:40:25.560 she's brainwashed.

05:40:26.840 She literally quoted

05:40:27.980 Hillary Clinton,

05:40:29.220 word for word, 1998.

05:40:30.740 Does she even know

05:40:31.740 that she just did that?

05:40:33.300 Yeah, I mean,

05:40:33.600 this actually question originates

05:40:34.900 in Hillary Clinton.

05:40:36.780 She said that

05:40:37.560 women

05:40:38.280 have always been

05:40:40.680 the primary victims of war.

05:40:43.620 That's probably not

05:40:44.440 precisely verbatim,

05:40:45.400 but essentially.

05:40:47.380 G.R. Gracie,

05:40:48.140 Bri,

05:40:48.460 In-N-Out,

05:40:48.840 is doing wonders

05:40:49.400 for your cup size.

05:40:50.140 Thank you, man.

05:40:50.840 Rocking the dad bod.

05:40:51.700 Gotta lose weight.

05:40:52.400 Working on it, boys.

05:40:53.480 Working on it.

05:40:54.500 To the boring,

05:40:55.180 disinterested panel,

05:40:56.080 what would make you

05:40:57.440 more engaging?

05:40:58.220 A, shots,

05:40:58.880 B, lines,

05:40:59.920 C, talk more about yourself,

05:41:01.240 or D, shiny things?

05:41:02.540 Shots.

05:41:04.660 Yes.

05:41:05.520 Yeah.

05:41:09.300 Like injections?

05:41:11.420 No.

05:41:12.000 No, like drink.

05:41:12.860 Thank you, Gracie.

05:41:18.420 Good to see you in the chat.

05:41:19.340 We have Epirus.

05:41:20.300 Thank you, man.

05:41:21.760 Would the girls

05:41:22.960 next to Brian

05:41:24.380 ever consider

05:41:25.040 a man making

05:41:26.360 $500,000 a year?

05:41:29.900 What?

05:41:30.800 What?

05:41:31.120 So, I guess this is you

05:41:32.680 and Morgan

05:41:33.400 and Natalie.

05:41:35.320 Would you consider

05:41:36.680 a man who makes

05:41:37.860 $500,000 a year?

05:41:40.640 Excuse me.

05:41:41.380 For the hypothetical,

05:41:43.360 we're going to pretend

05:41:43.980 that I'm not taken.

05:41:45.500 Okay.

05:41:46.760 Yeah.

05:41:49.100 This is like

05:41:49.920 asking a guy,

05:41:51.220 would you consider

05:41:52.280 dating a girl

05:41:53.000 with big tits

05:41:53.660 and a fat ass?

05:41:54.500 Yeah.

05:41:55.740 What?

05:41:57.680 What?

05:41:59.420 Bruh, come on.

05:42:01.220 That's crazy, bro.

05:42:03.620 Would you, ladies,

05:42:04.820 would you consider

05:42:05.620 dating a billionaire?

05:42:07.880 Would you?

05:42:09.560 I guess, yeah.

05:42:10.220 Oh, wait, no.

05:42:10.900 I think he's shooting

05:42:11.640 his shot.

05:42:12.180 Epirus, are you

05:42:12.800 shooting your shot?

05:42:15.240 Would you date him?

05:42:16.760 That's all you know.

05:42:17.400 He makes $500,000 a year.

05:42:18.600 That's all you know.

05:42:19.480 You made it very clear.

05:42:20.500 I'm taken and not interested.

05:42:23.220 $500,000 a year.

05:42:24.300 Oh, snap.

05:42:25.220 Okay, good for you, man.

05:42:26.180 Congrats.

05:42:26.820 Congrats, Epirus.

05:42:28.600 Appreciate it.

05:42:29.760 Okay.

05:42:30.820 Can we pull up

05:42:31.500 Andrew's photo

05:42:31.920 really quick?

05:42:32.380 I'm missing it.

05:42:32.940 Yeah.

05:42:34.340 I need it.

05:42:35.200 Pull it up

05:42:35.820 really quick.

05:42:36.300 Oh, my God, Natalia.

05:42:39.000 Thank you for the

05:42:39.380 gift of 20 memberships.

05:42:40.260 Appreciate it.

05:42:40.680 Oh, that was it?

05:42:41.260 That's all I get?

05:42:41.840 Okay.

05:42:42.400 Rude.

05:42:44.000 Damn, look at this jawline.

05:42:46.040 Right?

05:42:46.640 Yo, me and Andrew

05:42:47.720 were joining Weight Watchers.

05:42:49.660 All right.

05:42:51.160 But do we have proof

05:42:51.980 that's him?

05:42:52.940 That is...

05:42:53.600 What do you mean?

05:42:54.360 Yeah, it looks just like you.

05:42:55.840 Wait, Andrew,

05:42:56.800 what's your body count?

05:42:58.040 I would never

05:43:02.840 like the host of the show.

05:43:05.520 It's privileged information.

05:43:07.000 It's true.

05:43:07.820 It's true.

05:43:10.120 It wouldn't be nearly as fun

05:43:11.740 to when there's trolls

05:43:13.640 and I'm trolling back

05:43:14.760 if I revealed

05:43:16.220 just how much of a stud

05:43:17.620 I truly am not.

05:43:18.900 That would make the trolls

05:43:20.180 not nearly as fun, right?

05:43:22.500 That would make it...

05:43:24.040 It wouldn't make it as fun.

05:43:26.020 Going around on this,

05:43:27.260 are men or women...

05:43:28.600 Who's physically stronger,

05:43:29.640 men or women?

05:43:30.280 Men.

05:43:30.960 Men.

05:43:31.320 Wait.

05:43:31.820 Anybody think woman?

05:43:33.880 I've got guns, but...

05:43:34.920 She's got guns.

05:43:36.700 No, I think men are stronger.

05:43:38.440 Like, naturally, men.

05:43:39.860 Yeah.

05:43:40.240 The women who are

05:43:41.200 majoring in biology,

05:43:42.500 like, isn't the muscle fiber

05:43:44.240 of a man actually

05:43:45.520 more dense than that

05:43:46.660 of a woman?

05:43:47.440 Yes.

05:43:47.780 They're just naturally stronger.

05:43:48.780 Men are stronger.

05:43:49.920 There's no way of going

05:43:50.960 about that.

05:43:51.000 Women have thinner bones.

05:43:51.740 Some women are stronger

05:43:52.500 than men.

05:43:52.840 I can pretend.

05:43:53.880 I know I'm stronger

05:43:54.860 than a lot of men.

05:43:55.460 Right, but I'm saying

05:43:55.980 like the actual...

05:43:56.660 Yes, the makeup of a man

05:43:58.260 is...

05:43:58.880 Anatomically, yes.

05:43:59.920 Men are stronger.

05:44:01.780 So, next question.

05:44:05.560 Can you be sexist

05:44:06.720 towards men?

05:44:08.280 Yeah.

05:44:08.900 Wait, starting,

05:44:10.180 we'll just get answers

05:44:11.100 from everybody.

05:44:12.120 Yeah.

05:44:12.580 Yes.

05:44:13.220 Yeah, of course.

05:44:14.380 Yes, definitely.

05:44:15.100 Yes, of course.

05:44:16.380 Oh, okay.

05:44:16.880 All right.

05:44:19.560 Can you be racist

05:44:20.400 towards white people?

05:44:21.020 Go ahead, Macy.

05:44:26.500 Can I not answer?

05:44:27.520 You got to answer, Macy.

05:44:29.180 Yes, you can.

05:44:29.760 You got to answer.

05:44:30.340 Yes, you can.

05:44:30.920 I thought we weren't

05:44:31.320 supposed to ask

05:44:32.120 these kinds of questions.

05:44:33.180 This is fine.

05:44:34.180 This is fair game.

05:44:34.940 Don't worry about it.

05:44:35.880 This is fair game.

05:44:37.280 This is fair.

05:44:37.700 I feel like racism

05:44:38.280 can go like any way.

05:44:41.320 So, yes.

05:44:41.860 Okay.

05:44:41.880 So, yes, you can.

05:44:42.960 Okay.

05:44:43.420 What about you?

05:44:45.280 Oh, you're for real?

05:44:46.060 I'm for real, for real.

05:44:50.100 For real, for real.

05:44:52.500 When keeping it real

05:44:53.740 goes wrong,

05:44:55.500 I'm going to keep it real.

05:44:58.380 I'm keeping it real.

05:44:59.560 I don't know.

05:45:00.480 I'm very mixed

05:45:01.260 on this question.

05:45:03.700 Like, people have asked me

05:45:04.660 and I never know

05:45:05.260 how to answer.

05:45:06.220 Tell us how you really feel.

05:45:07.660 Dude, I literally.

05:45:08.940 Mask off.

05:45:09.760 Tell us how you really feel.

05:45:10.200 I literally, like,

05:45:11.400 I can't.

05:45:11.960 Tell us how.

05:45:12.980 Like, it's, like,

05:45:14.040 I understand both ends

05:45:16.220 of the stick.

05:45:16.820 Like, I, like,

05:45:18.180 I can't outweigh

05:45:18.940 one more than the other.

05:45:20.100 It's a really mixed.

05:45:22.160 Can

05:45:22.560 Mongolian people

05:45:26.380 be racist towards

05:45:27.200 white people?

05:45:29.280 Dude, like,

05:45:30.360 it's the same question.

05:45:31.660 Can you be racist

05:45:32.320 to white people?

05:45:32.920 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

05:45:33.660 You just rephrased

05:45:34.700 the question.

05:45:35.180 I'm trying to help you out, bro.

05:45:36.160 I'm trying to keep you on.

05:45:36.680 It's not helping me.

05:45:37.540 I can't outweigh it.

05:45:39.140 So, should we just assume

05:45:40.200 that your answer is no?

05:45:41.800 You can't be racist

05:45:42.460 towards white people?

05:45:43.140 No.

05:45:45.540 Can't you make inferences,

05:45:46.780 Andrew?

05:45:47.060 Can't you, like,

05:45:48.060 by virtue of someone

05:45:49.200 refusing to answer a question,

05:45:50.640 can you not make inferences

05:45:51.940 about their position?

05:45:54.140 Or is that?

05:45:54.860 Yeah, you can make inferences,

05:45:56.420 but that doesn't mean

05:45:57.340 that they're going to be,

05:45:58.280 that doesn't mean

05:45:59.180 that they're going to be rational.

05:46:00.280 I'm inferring.

05:46:01.160 I'm making an inference.

05:46:02.600 Regardless of the

05:46:03.480 rationality of it,

05:46:04.540 I've inferred.

05:46:05.620 I have inferred.

05:46:08.600 I've made an inference.

05:46:09.880 How do you feel about that?

05:46:10.780 I've inferred.

05:46:12.260 Do you infer?

05:46:12.840 Do you like to infer?

05:46:14.000 I concur that you inferred.

05:46:17.760 I concur that you concur.

05:46:19.620 Can you be racist towards it?

05:46:20.620 What about you?

05:46:22.600 Yeah.

05:46:23.440 Okay.

05:46:23.800 What about you think?

05:46:25.160 Yeah, I think so.

05:46:26.380 Okay.

05:46:27.100 100%.

05:46:27.500 Yes.

05:46:28.080 Yes, definitely.

05:46:29.860 Yeah.

05:46:30.960 Yeah, I actually wrote a paper

05:46:32.320 about this at college,

05:46:33.480 and I failed the class

05:46:34.860 because of it.

05:46:35.560 Oh, my God.

05:46:36.300 Did you say yes,

05:46:37.180 and you failed?

05:46:38.280 There's the T.

05:46:39.660 Oh, my God.

05:46:40.480 That's crazy.

05:46:41.040 Wait, you failed the class

05:46:41.880 because of why?

05:46:43.420 That paper.

05:46:43.880 Did you say yes?

05:46:45.040 What was your position

05:46:45.720 in the paper?

05:46:46.860 I was talking about

05:46:47.900 reverse racism

05:46:48.760 against whites,

05:46:50.200 and the professor

05:46:51.380 just disagreed with me,

05:46:53.720 gave me a failing grade

05:46:55.440 on the paper,

05:46:56.140 even though it met

05:46:56.700 all the requirements

05:46:57.600 of the paper.

05:46:58.580 It was well-written.

05:46:59.740 Yeah.

05:46:59.900 What ethnicity

05:47:00.380 was the professor?

05:47:01.520 Oh, she was white.

05:47:02.320 Aren't you supposed

05:47:02.920 to just lie in college?

05:47:04.740 Oh, I refuse to.

05:47:05.920 Isn't the doctrine

05:47:06.700 you just lie

05:47:07.440 and just tell them

05:47:08.200 what they want to hear?

05:47:09.240 Mm-mm.

05:47:09.760 Mm-mm.

05:47:11.280 Isn't that what

05:47:11.820 you're supposed to do?

05:47:12.500 That's what you're supposed

05:47:13.100 to do in college.

05:47:14.160 Yeah, college is supposed

05:47:15.060 to brainwash you,

05:47:15.880 but I refuse.

05:47:17.140 Okay.

05:47:18.020 Well, anyways,

05:47:18.600 moving on.

05:47:20.620 Do we live

05:47:21.240 in a patriarchy?

05:47:25.520 Macy,

05:47:26.780 turning with you.

05:47:29.500 Are we going that way?

05:47:31.180 Yeah.

05:47:31.300 Yeah.

05:47:32.320 No, we got to start

05:47:34.060 over here.

05:47:34.760 We got to start

05:47:35.220 over here.

05:47:36.360 Tallest to shortest.

05:47:37.480 That's how it works.

05:47:39.040 Okay, I'm the shortest,

05:47:40.140 so I'm probably

05:47:40.700 the shortest.

05:47:41.620 Actually, I feel like

05:47:42.960 currently in no.

05:47:45.100 Previously, yes.

05:47:46.120 Previously, yes.

05:47:47.260 Yeah, I would say

05:47:47.900 closer to no.

05:47:49.000 Closer to no.

05:47:49.920 Yeah, I'd agree.

05:47:50.640 Closer to no.

05:47:51.940 Closer to no.

05:47:53.400 Yeah, I think we're...

05:47:54.260 Closer to no,

05:47:55.580 there's...

05:47:56.260 When you say no...

05:47:57.500 Like, yes,

05:47:58.300 but we're inching

05:47:59.160 towards a no.

05:48:01.300 Well...

05:48:01.740 Okay, so there's still

05:48:03.620 a patriarchy,

05:48:04.580 but it's not as bad.

05:48:05.740 Yes, but there's obviously

05:48:06.120 progression.

05:48:06.900 It's not as bad.

05:48:08.300 Bingo.

05:48:08.720 Thank you.

05:48:09.240 Yeah, I think I would

05:48:09.840 agree with you.

05:48:10.780 I don't even think

05:48:11.520 we live in a patriarchy

05:48:12.480 anymore.

05:48:13.060 Me neither.

05:48:14.200 It depends.

05:48:15.540 What does that mean?

05:48:17.960 Well, patriarchy has

05:48:18.880 different definitions.

05:48:21.280 Different definitions.

05:48:21.780 It just means that

05:48:22.580 men are basically

05:48:24.220 in charge of shit.

05:48:25.020 What the fuck?

05:48:25.400 That's it.

05:48:26.080 Pin that chat.

05:48:27.740 Huh?

05:48:28.460 Nothing.

05:48:31.800 I'd say 51%.

05:48:34.440 Did you see the chat?

05:48:39.700 What did it say right there?

05:48:40.720 It said,

05:48:40.960 Brian has a crush on you.

05:48:42.300 Anyways, let's stay

05:48:43.320 focused here.

05:48:45.900 Patriarchy?

05:48:46.600 Believe in the patriarchy?

05:48:47.700 Yeah.

05:48:48.520 Believe in the patriarchy?

05:48:49.680 Yeah, it's a little bit there.

05:48:51.280 Even when Angela Merkel

05:48:52.440 was running the German

05:48:54.740 government for a long

05:48:56.260 ass time?

05:48:57.400 Was it the patriarchy then?

05:48:58.460 Well, America never

05:48:59.140 had a girl president.

05:49:00.600 Yeah, what about Germany

05:49:01.280 though?

05:49:02.020 Yeah, but we're in

05:49:02.720 America right now.

05:49:05.080 Okay.

05:49:05.840 All right.

05:49:08.960 Coming down this way?

05:49:10.320 I don't think we are.

05:49:13.100 Yeah, I think the

05:49:13.960 patriarchy has been ruined.

05:49:16.180 Patriarchy's ruined.

05:49:16.800 You're in favor of the

05:49:17.400 patriarchy.

05:49:17.820 I'm in favor.

05:49:18.720 She's in favor of the

05:49:19.420 patriarchy.

05:49:20.520 Do you guys, okay, so

05:49:21.660 I've heard this like

05:49:22.420 under the patriarchy

05:49:23.420 women are oppressed.

05:49:25.120 Do you agree?

05:49:25.760 Like, do you think women

05:49:26.660 are oppressed in the U.S.?

05:49:28.400 No.

05:49:28.980 Absolutely not.

05:49:29.720 No?

05:49:30.360 Well, let's just let

05:49:31.280 people answer.

05:49:33.260 They can be, but like,

05:49:34.460 no.

05:49:34.960 They can be, but no?

05:49:36.400 Yeah, but that's like

05:49:37.060 with everything, so I

05:49:37.820 just don't know.

05:49:38.720 Okay.

05:49:39.940 I think to a certain

05:49:41.100 extent, both men and

05:49:42.400 women are.

05:49:44.680 No.

05:49:45.480 No.

05:49:45.740 Is that your genuine

05:49:46.640 answer?

05:49:48.280 Yes.

05:49:50.680 No.

05:49:52.420 I don't know.

05:49:52.980 Earlier, she tried to

05:49:53.760 make the argument that

05:49:54.560 women have less rights

05:49:55.480 than men, though, so

05:49:56.520 it's a contradiction.

05:49:59.520 I said what I said.

05:50:01.460 She said what she said.

05:50:03.900 Wait, I have a question.

05:50:05.120 What?

05:50:06.320 Do you guys believe in

05:50:07.280 gender equality?

05:50:08.920 No.

05:50:11.840 Me neither.

05:50:12.500 First of all, I don't

05:50:14.700 believe in gender at all.

05:50:15.900 I don't even think

05:50:16.220 gender exists.

05:50:16.980 It's just nonsense.

05:50:18.080 Nonsensical, made-up word.

05:50:19.380 There's only sex.

05:50:20.380 That's all there's ever

05:50:21.000 been, and people make a

05:50:22.260 conflation.

05:50:23.260 They say gender, they

05:50:24.320 actually mean sex, and so

05:50:25.600 what happens in the

05:50:26.220 commons is when people say

05:50:27.460 gender, they actually mean

05:50:28.500 sex.

05:50:29.160 They actually mean male,

05:50:29.980 female, not gender.

05:50:31.260 Gender is just nonsense,

05:50:32.740 made-up bullshit,

05:50:33.940 essentially.

05:50:34.520 That's my world view on it.

05:50:36.200 I believe in gender

05:50:38.380 equity.

05:50:41.180 Ah, equity.

05:50:42.840 I love equity.

05:50:43.980 What is equity?

05:50:45.060 Yeah, what is equity?

05:50:45.640 Okay, can I give an

05:50:46.340 example?

05:50:46.820 This is how I think of it.

05:50:49.040 Are you going to give me

05:50:49.600 the box example?

05:50:50.620 Yes!

05:50:51.900 Yeah, you're going to

05:50:52.340 give me the box example.

05:50:53.380 Yeah.

05:50:53.980 Did you just learn this in

05:50:55.300 Feminist 101 the other

05:50:56.580 day?

05:50:56.900 No.

05:50:57.140 The box example, you

05:50:58.100 stand up on the box, and

05:50:59.280 the person next to you has

05:51:00.080 a shorter box, so you

05:51:00.900 got to give them a bigger

05:51:01.460 box so they can stand

05:51:02.240 over the fence, too?

05:51:04.060 No, I didn't just

05:51:04.780 learn that.

05:51:05.200 See, they don't even

05:51:06.220 know it.

05:51:06.480 I don't know it.

05:51:07.340 Go ahead.

05:51:07.800 Go ahead.

05:51:08.160 Explain the box.

05:51:09.460 Explain standpoint theory,

05:51:11.060 the box.

05:51:11.820 Go ahead.

05:51:12.420 Okay, fine.

05:51:15.100 Basically, the equality is

05:51:16.440 everyone has the same box,

05:51:17.820 but not everyone can see

05:51:19.260 over the fence.

05:51:20.460 And then equity is everyone

05:51:22.100 gets the box according to

05:51:24.660 their height so that

05:51:25.640 everyone can see the exact

05:51:26.680 same over the fence.

05:51:31.080 Don't you think that the...

05:51:33.020 Why does everybody deserve

05:51:33.980 to have the same box size?

05:51:37.760 Right.

05:51:38.980 Correct.

05:51:40.380 Why does everybody deserve

05:51:42.040 to have the same box size?

05:51:44.880 I don't think they do.

05:51:46.660 Right.

05:51:47.220 So then you don't believe

05:51:48.840 in equity.

05:51:50.880 Why?

05:51:52.400 Well, how...

05:51:53.260 If you...

05:51:54.000 So what you're saying is...

05:51:55.140 They all have different

05:51:55.440 boxes.

05:51:55.840 All of us have a box.

05:51:57.700 Yeah.

05:51:58.200 Right?

05:51:58.620 That's equality.

05:51:59.840 Correct?

05:52:00.000 But the boxes are

05:52:02.480 different sizes.

05:52:03.780 And so you have to increase

05:52:04.580 some box sizes...

05:52:05.600 Right.

05:52:05.820 ...so that they get bigger

05:52:06.920 so that you can then look

05:52:08.220 over the fence, right?

05:52:09.320 Right.

05:52:10.180 Why do people deserve

05:52:11.440 to have the larger boxes?

05:52:14.060 Why do you actually deserve

05:52:15.360 to have that?

05:52:16.820 Maybe we don't deserve it,

05:52:18.180 but...

05:52:18.400 Just so everyone can see

05:52:21.560 the same.

05:52:22.360 Well, should they be given

05:52:23.460 the ability to work

05:52:25.040 to get that box?

05:52:27.240 Definitely.

05:52:28.140 Okay.

05:52:28.580 Do you think people

05:52:29.340 don't have that opportunity?

05:52:31.820 Mm-hmm.

05:52:32.820 Well, I think everyone

05:52:34.280 has the opportunity to work.

05:52:36.000 It's just what you do

05:52:37.420 with your time.

05:52:38.120 Like, I see people on the road

05:52:39.160 begging for money

05:52:40.080 with the same time,

05:52:41.560 and I get that people

05:52:42.900 have disabilities and everything,

05:52:44.560 but that same time...

05:52:45.400 Sorry, go ahead.

05:52:46.680 Go ahead.

05:52:46.960 That same time

05:52:47.560 that you're spending out there,

05:52:48.760 you could literally

05:52:49.600 be trying to get a job.

05:52:50.880 More productive as you are.

05:52:52.000 Exactly.

05:52:52.200 Why would you want

05:52:52.840 to try to get a job?

05:52:54.020 Those bums are making

05:52:55.040 $60,000 a year

05:52:56.340 panhandling on the street.

05:52:57.800 They don't give a shit

05:52:58.360 about a job.

05:52:59.000 San Francisco, they're getting paid.

05:52:59.460 Plus, they never report

05:53:00.560 any of the income.

05:53:01.900 So due to people

05:53:02.820 who love equity like yourself,

05:53:04.840 what ends up happening

05:53:05.840 is the state comes in

05:53:06.840 and gives them tons of cash,

05:53:08.260 sets them up

05:53:08.740 with tons of social programs.

05:53:10.260 They go get food stamp cards

05:53:11.480 that are loaded with $2,000

05:53:12.820 of EBT spending cash

05:53:14.440 because they're homeless.

05:53:15.780 They get literally

05:53:16.880 free health care

05:53:17.760 because they get put

05:53:18.680 on Medicaid.

05:53:19.680 And then on top of that,

05:53:20.820 they get put

05:53:21.280 in low-income housing

05:53:22.220 so their rent is only

05:53:23.280 one-tenth of what

05:53:24.240 a normal person's rent is

05:53:25.420 and they have just

05:53:26.240 as nice of a place.

05:53:27.520 How the fuck

05:53:28.000 is that equitable?

05:53:29.500 How is that equity?

05:53:31.480 You know what

05:53:31.800 that sounds like to me?

05:53:32.600 It sounds like

05:53:33.040 what happens is

05:53:33.820 you take my box

05:53:35.180 and you shrink it

05:53:36.100 to make your box bigger.

05:53:39.620 It's a good way

05:53:40.320 to put it.

05:53:40.740 Well, I don't think

05:53:44.920 you can break down

05:53:47.100 the something as nuanced

05:53:49.620 as economy

05:53:50.460 or gender dynamics

05:53:53.280 or I don't think

05:53:56.820 you can break that down

05:53:57.860 to this box example.

05:54:00.380 There's way more

05:54:01.080 like complexity

05:54:02.080 and nuance to it.

05:54:03.700 I don't think

05:54:06.380 I mean,

05:54:07.120 in that specific example,

05:54:08.740 it makes sense

05:54:09.500 but I don't know

05:54:09.980 if that maps on

05:54:10.940 to applying it

05:54:12.320 to like economics

05:54:13.300 or

05:54:14.660 like gender stuff.

05:54:18.500 Okay.

05:54:19.460 Okay.

05:54:21.080 Okay.

05:54:22.080 Okay.

05:54:22.840 All right.

05:54:24.000 Yeah, but that's

05:54:24.560 but I mean,

05:54:25.840 speaking to equity,

05:54:27.180 equity is every bit

05:54:28.140 as impossible

05:54:28.720 as equality

05:54:30.040 because it's just

05:54:31.120 the same principle.

05:54:32.560 It's the same exact

05:54:33.340 principle applied.

05:54:34.260 You still want everybody

05:54:35.080 to have an equally sized box

05:54:37.240 so that they can see

05:54:37.900 over the fence.

05:54:38.560 So our equality standard

05:54:39.640 now is just

05:54:40.420 everybody has to be here.

05:54:42.360 Right?

05:54:42.700 It's still the same

05:54:43.340 exact principle.

05:54:44.600 Same principle applied.

05:54:46.420 It's just now

05:54:47.180 we have to move

05:54:48.000 the goalpost

05:54:48.500 so everybody can see

05:54:49.280 over the fence

05:54:49.760 the same way.

05:54:51.080 And this kind of idea

05:54:52.460 of sameness

05:54:53.080 and interchange

05:54:55.220 of that human beings

05:54:56.200 are interchangeable widgets.

05:54:57.700 Right?

05:54:58.120 So I think

05:54:58.860 that there's a lot of people

05:54:59.560 that don't deserve

05:55:00.020 to see over the fence.

05:55:01.200 Fuck them

05:55:01.540 as the proverbial

05:55:03.200 saying goes,

05:55:03.940 right?

05:55:04.140 Fuck them.

05:55:04.780 A lot of people

05:55:05.400 absolutely do everything

05:55:06.520 in their life

05:55:07.060 to make damn sure

05:55:08.000 that they'll never

05:55:08.580 see over the fence

05:55:09.480 and why should

05:55:10.480 they be able to?

05:55:11.500 While good working people

05:55:13.380 are busting their ass

05:55:14.680 so that they can

05:55:15.480 so that they can

05:55:16.460 build that body.

05:55:17.080 That's what I never

05:55:17.640 understood about

05:55:18.240 the equity argument.

05:55:20.520 I just never

05:55:21.240 really understood it.

05:55:22.400 It doesn't make any

05:55:22.920 it just sounds like

05:55:23.600 it's egalitarianism

05:55:24.640 just framed in a

05:55:25.400 different way.

05:55:28.140 Word?

05:55:29.300 Hold on guys

05:55:30.040 one sec.

05:55:30.420 Oh let's see.

05:55:33.060 Oh any

05:55:33.480 those of you

05:55:34.340 who like

05:55:35.080 have seen the show

05:55:35.740 before

05:55:36.180 any disagreements

05:55:38.180 either that you

05:55:38.920 have with me

05:55:39.460 or Andrew

05:55:39.960 that haven't

05:55:40.480 already been

05:55:41.400 addressed throughout

05:55:42.000 the show?

05:55:45.980 Go in ones?

05:55:47.160 Yeah actually

05:55:47.780 I think I wrote it

05:55:48.920 in the pre-notes

05:55:50.180 thing

05:55:50.460 and I was kind

05:55:51.200 of talking about

05:55:51.840 Nala Ray

05:55:52.380 because like

05:55:52.960 she's changed.

05:55:54.280 Do you believe

05:55:54.800 a woman

05:55:55.360 can change

05:55:56.700 as when she

05:55:57.420 like a born

05:55:58.660 again virgin?

05:56:00.340 No you can't

05:56:01.020 become a born

05:56:01.640 again virgin.

05:56:02.100 Right you can't

05:56:02.680 be a virgin.

05:56:03.460 You can't be a virgin

05:56:04.120 again.

05:56:04.860 That's Protestant

05:56:05.980 prattle.

05:56:06.980 Okay.

05:56:07.280 They're taking

05:56:07.600 they're conflating

05:56:08.300 two different ideas.

05:56:10.460 Idea one

05:56:11.200 is that

05:56:11.980 if you are a

05:56:13.400 Christian

05:56:13.680 you convert

05:56:14.240 to Christianity.

05:56:14.880 Sorry I didn't

05:56:22.020 I didn't know

05:56:22.480 if you were

05:56:22.740 saying something.

05:56:24.100 No the chat.

05:56:25.580 No I was

05:56:25.920 on the chat.

05:56:27.620 So yeah yeah

05:56:28.580 so if you

05:56:29.700 convert to

05:56:30.100 Christianity

05:56:30.440 yes your sins

05:56:31.180 are washed away.

05:56:32.060 This is what

05:56:32.620 is then conflated

05:56:33.720 with born again

05:56:35.040 virgin.

05:56:36.360 No your

05:56:37.360 virginity is gone

05:56:38.400 and the amount

05:56:39.540 of sex that you

05:56:40.560 had doesn't go

05:56:41.240 away.

05:56:42.080 That's not

05:56:42.680 that's still

05:56:43.280 that still

05:56:44.440 happened.

05:56:45.320 Right.

05:56:46.200 Your sins

05:56:46.760 don't go away

05:56:47.500 either.

05:56:47.980 They're just

05:56:48.300 forgiven.

05:56:49.100 They're forgiven.

05:56:50.540 That's this is

05:56:51.120 the principle

05:56:51.660 and the point.

05:56:52.640 Right.

05:56:53.100 So the thing

05:56:54.140 is is that

05:56:54.720 the idea

05:56:55.220 of born again

05:56:55.940 virginity

05:56:56.540 is basically

05:56:57.780 a bunch of

05:56:58.520 feminist cope.

05:57:00.020 Right.

05:57:00.260 There's a lot

05:57:00.640 of feminists

05:57:01.080 who move

05:57:01.440 towards Christianity

05:57:02.340 specifically as

05:57:03.340 a shield

05:57:03.820 from criticism

05:57:04.620 rather than

05:57:06.180 as a way

05:57:07.160 to salvation.

05:57:09.100 And so

05:57:09.620 they you know

05:57:10.860 that's why we

05:57:11.540 end up with

05:57:11.900 these female

05:57:12.400 ministers who

05:57:13.080 preach these

05:57:13.580 crazy ass

05:57:14.240 gospels that

05:57:14.880 make no

05:57:15.260 sense at

05:57:15.620 all.

05:57:16.880 I agree

05:57:17.320 with that.

05:57:19.720 Okay.

05:57:21.160 Anything else?

05:57:23.500 TTS is now

05:57:24.340 69.

05:57:25.880 $69 TTS

05:57:27.580 and then

05:57:28.740 back to the

05:57:29.720 notes here.

05:57:30.380 So we have

05:57:31.020 let's see

05:57:33.820 sorry I lost

05:57:34.940 my place in

05:57:35.760 the notes

05:57:36.120 here.

05:57:37.020 Going around

05:57:37.560 the table

05:57:37.900 are your

05:57:38.180 parents still

05:57:38.580 together?

05:57:39.820 Yes.

05:57:41.100 No.

05:57:42.500 Yes.

05:57:43.640 Yes.

05:57:44.600 No.

05:57:45.040 They have

05:57:45.500 been divorced

05:57:45.900 three times

05:57:46.600 and are on

05:57:47.440 their now

05:57:47.880 third marriage

05:57:48.380 or divorced

05:57:48.980 twice on

05:57:49.360 their third

05:57:49.640 marriage.

05:57:50.520 Okay.

05:57:51.140 Yes.

05:57:52.200 No.

05:57:52.880 Yes.

05:57:53.600 No.

05:57:54.440 No.

05:57:57.000 All right.

05:57:58.660 And one

05:57:59.520 sec.

05:57:59.840 Where did

05:58:00.180 my sorry

05:58:01.940 guys I lost

05:58:02.420 my place in

05:58:03.660 my notes

05:58:04.040 here.

05:58:04.160 John Zunders

05:58:04.940 Cormuth

05:58:05.440 donated

05:58:05.920 $69.

05:58:07.560 Where does

05:58:08.300 Big Red

05:58:08.700 stand

05:58:09.180 literally

05:58:09.860 in the

05:58:10.420 box

05:58:10.720 analogy?

05:58:11.340 She don't

05:58:11.360 need a box

05:58:11.720 because she's

05:58:12.040 perfect.

05:58:13.020 Period.

05:58:14.360 Okay.

05:58:18.500 She's

05:58:18.940 seeing over

05:58:19.380 the fence.

05:58:20.160 Yeah.

05:58:20.400 Oh question.

05:58:23.400 Is a man

05:58:24.060 less of a

05:58:24.720 man?

05:58:24.760 All of

05:58:25.320 you can't

05:58:25.960 see over

05:58:26.380 the fence

05:58:26.940 unless we

05:58:27.920 get you a

05:58:28.380 bigger box

05:58:29.060 right?

05:58:30.260 I don't need

05:58:30.720 to see.

05:58:30.840 Isn't that

05:58:31.100 the point?

05:58:31.680 How could

05:58:31.980 you ever be

05:58:32.400 equitable?

05:58:32.880 I don't

05:58:33.240 know.

05:58:33.360 I don't

05:58:33.580 watch

05:58:33.840 baseball.

05:58:34.400 Fuck

05:58:34.540 that shit.

05:58:36.140 Stupid

05:58:36.580 box.

05:58:37.100 It's a

05:58:37.340 baseball game.

05:58:38.200 Who the

05:58:38.500 fuck gives

05:58:39.020 a fuck

05:58:39.500 about a

05:58:40.180 box to

05:58:40.720 a baseball

05:58:41.280 game?

05:58:41.760 What the

05:58:42.100 fuck?

05:58:43.080 Get out

05:58:43.560 of here

05:58:43.780 with your

05:58:44.120 fucking

05:58:44.660 1930s

05:58:46.440 pastime.

05:58:47.120 Fuck

05:58:47.320 that shit.

05:58:49.060 I watch

05:58:50.000 baseball.

05:58:51.840 When was

05:58:53.340 that even

05:58:53.780 a thing?

05:58:54.480 In the

05:58:54.780 40s?

05:58:55.840 Fucking

05:58:56.080 Babe Ruth?

05:58:56.940 Who gives

05:58:57.520 a fuck?

05:58:58.580 I like

05:58:58.960 baseball.

05:58:59.400 I just

05:58:59.640 got like

05:58:59.940 100

05:59:01.280 unsubscribed

05:59:02.120 right there.

05:59:03.580 But Brian,

05:59:04.660 what about

05:59:05.020 a league

05:59:05.300 of their

05:59:05.580 own where

05:59:05.960 Dottie

05:59:06.320 could catch

05:59:06.780 the ball

05:59:07.240 with her

05:59:07.540 bare hand,

05:59:08.220 Brian?

05:59:08.520 What about

05:59:08.880 that?

05:59:10.520 I don't

05:59:11.100 know.

05:59:12.120 How many

05:59:12.420 fucking

05:59:12.720 baseball games

05:59:13.360 are there

05:59:13.580 in a season?

05:59:14.120 God damn,

05:59:14.480 it's like

05:59:14.700 200 goddamn

05:59:15.380 games.

05:59:15.780 I can't

05:59:16.100 follow this

05:59:16.560 shit.

05:59:17.480 Get out

05:59:17.800 of here

05:59:18.000 with your

05:59:18.280 fucking

05:59:18.540 500 games.

05:59:20.160 Okay.

05:59:21.560 Anyways.

05:59:23.040 Oh, is

05:59:23.400 a man less

05:59:23.980 of a man

05:59:24.420 if he can't

05:59:25.000 change a

05:59:25.360 flat tire?

05:59:26.940 Oh, gosh.

05:59:29.660 Yo, AB

05:59:30.040 Check,

05:59:30.380 thank you for

05:59:30.600 the gifted

05:59:30.920 memberships.

05:59:32.000 Yeah.

05:59:32.460 Yes?

05:59:32.780 Less of a

05:59:33.240 man if he

05:59:33.780 can't change

05:59:34.200 a flat tire,

05:59:34.860 but no?

05:59:35.240 No.

05:59:35.860 No.

05:59:36.360 No?

05:59:36.700 I don't

05:59:36.980 think so.

05:59:40.040 No, but I

05:59:41.980 would want my

05:59:42.480 man to know

05:59:42.940 how to change

05:59:43.360 tire.

05:59:43.920 So he's less

05:59:44.300 of a man

05:59:44.680 then.

05:59:45.300 You wouldn't

05:59:45.680 date the guy.

05:59:46.180 Own it,

05:59:46.520 girl.

05:59:47.340 Own it.

05:59:47.780 Own it.

05:59:50.100 I guess.

05:59:52.160 Okay.

05:59:53.040 No.

05:59:53.880 Yeah.

05:59:54.660 Yeah.

05:59:55.060 Oh, okay.

05:59:56.920 Yes.

05:59:57.200 Can't change

05:59:57.680 a Volkswagen?

06:00:01.200 You can just

06:00:01.820 find it on

06:00:02.500 YouTube.

06:00:03.040 Just a done

06:00:03.500 deal.

06:00:03.940 Okay.

06:00:05.400 Yes?

06:00:05.840 I said yes.

06:00:06.880 So then, for

06:00:07.720 those of you who

06:00:08.260 said yes, is a

06:00:09.220 woman less of a

06:00:09.860 woman if she

06:00:10.400 can't cook a

06:00:10.960 meal?

06:00:11.580 I was literally

06:00:12.280 about to ask the

06:00:12.900 exact same

06:00:13.300 question.

06:00:13.500 No.

06:00:16.380 No.

06:00:17.360 Oh.

06:00:18.120 Yes?

06:00:20.220 No.

06:00:21.760 I'm going to

06:00:22.260 say no.

06:00:23.340 I'm going to

06:00:23.860 say yes unless

06:00:24.500 your man likes

06:00:25.140 to cook and

06:00:25.600 you don't know

06:00:25.960 how to cook.

06:00:26.980 Okay.

06:00:28.080 No.

06:00:29.200 Yeah.

06:00:30.600 Yeah?

06:00:32.820 No.

06:00:33.540 Wiener

06:00:33.940 schnitzel?

06:00:36.180 Absolutely

06:00:36.580 yes.

06:00:37.740 If a woman

06:00:38.180 doesn't know

06:00:38.620 how to cook,

06:00:39.100 she needs to

06:00:39.520 learn how to

06:00:39.960 cook.

06:00:40.400 And ladies,

06:00:41.260 the biggest

06:00:41.920 thing that I

06:00:42.600 could ever

06:00:42.980 urge you to

06:00:43.480 purchase off

06:00:44.060 Amazon, it's

06:00:44.680 called the

06:00:45.020 sous vide,

06:00:45.740 S-O-U-S-V-I-D-E,

06:00:47.740 you will make

06:00:48.160 the perfect

06:00:48.560 steak every

06:00:49.240 single time,

06:00:50.240 and you will

06:00:50.660 win over 100%

06:00:51.780 of the men

06:00:52.160 that you make

06:00:52.560 a steak for.

06:00:53.440 Hey, Ryan,

06:00:53.900 can you change

06:00:54.300 a tire?

06:00:54.580 I don't believe

06:00:56.400 you.

06:00:56.760 I absolutely

06:00:57.340 do not believe

06:00:58.180 that this book

06:00:58.820 will ever teach

06:00:59.420 women how to

06:00:59.980 cook.

06:01:00.040 It's not a

06:01:00.360 book, it's

06:01:01.160 an instrument

06:01:01.760 to which you

06:01:02.940 cook a steak.

06:01:03.620 Ryan, can you

06:01:04.240 change a tire?

06:01:07.040 No, but I

06:01:08.420 can pay somebody

06:01:09.120 who does.

06:01:09.620 There you go.

06:01:11.100 And he's got

06:01:11.600 money.

06:01:12.060 Okay, let's

06:01:22.380 see, we're...

06:01:23.380 Wait, you really

06:01:24.420 can't change a

06:01:25.040 tire?

06:01:27.640 I got AAA, what

06:01:28.900 are you talking

06:01:29.260 about?

06:01:30.600 I got AAA, they

06:01:32.100 can take care of

06:01:32.780 it.

06:01:33.080 There you go.

06:01:34.220 AAA takes care of

06:01:35.440 it.

06:01:35.580 I know how

06:01:38.160 to jumpstart a

06:01:38.700 car, does that

06:01:39.900 count for anything?

06:01:40.880 That counts.

06:01:42.160 Can jumpstart a

06:01:42.860 car?

06:01:43.600 I don't know

06:01:44.160 what you girls

06:01:44.620 are laughing about.

06:01:45.860 Anytime you see

06:01:46.620 a woman try to

06:01:47.680 jumpstart a car,

06:01:48.640 when it sparks,

06:01:49.280 she goes, ah,

06:01:50.500 oh my god, it

06:01:51.060 sparked, they

06:01:51.880 think they're

06:01:52.220 going to

06:01:52.420 electrocute

06:01:52.940 themselves.

06:01:53.800 Go ahead, tell

06:01:54.620 me I'm lying.

06:01:55.700 No, you're

06:01:56.200 true, not us.

06:01:57.860 I would probably

06:01:58.480 do that.

06:01:58.820 I'd be like,

06:01:58.900 what's going on?

06:01:59.900 This past

06:02:01.020 winter, I had

06:02:01.780 to put chains

06:02:02.680 on the car by

06:02:03.600 myself in the

06:02:04.220 middle of a

06:02:04.600 snowstorm in the

06:02:05.560 middle of the

06:02:05.960 night.

06:02:06.500 That was

06:02:07.000 horrendous.

06:02:08.400 Oh my gosh, I

06:02:09.280 made a video and

06:02:10.060 I said everybody

06:02:10.660 needs to thank a

06:02:11.420 man today.

06:02:14.140 It's rough out

06:02:15.640 there, you can't

06:02:16.220 put chains on a

06:02:16.900 tire.

06:02:17.360 I did it though,

06:02:18.580 but I prefer a

06:02:19.380 man to do it.

06:02:20.560 Most impressive.

06:02:21.920 Do you guys

06:02:22.260 know how to

06:02:22.620 change your

06:02:23.000 blinker fluid?

06:02:24.620 No such

06:02:25.340 thing.

06:02:27.260 There definitely

06:02:28.100 is, I don't

06:02:28.580 know what you

06:02:28.820 guys are talking

06:02:29.300 about.

06:02:29.900 Wait, who

06:02:34.480 said there was

06:02:34.920 no such thing

06:02:35.420 as blinker

06:02:35.880 fluid?

06:02:37.940 Rude.

06:02:38.700 What?

06:02:39.920 You think

06:02:42.000 there's no such

06:02:42.540 thing as blinker

06:02:43.220 fluid, really?

06:02:45.280 You don't really

06:02:46.120 believe that, do

06:02:46.760 you?

06:02:47.720 Your blinker is a

06:02:48.740 light bulb.

06:02:49.240 They're powered by

06:02:50.040 electricity, yeah.

06:02:52.360 She's not that

06:02:53.000 gullible.

06:02:53.260 Your car is also

06:02:53.980 powered by

06:02:54.620 electricity, which

06:02:55.440 is generated by

06:02:56.380 the gas that you

06:02:57.880 put in the car.

06:02:58.600 She's trying to

06:02:59.960 see if you're

06:03:00.260 gullible.

06:03:00.760 Thank you.

06:03:02.420 Stand by myself

06:03:03.240 on that one.

06:03:04.120 Oh, damn it.

06:03:04.880 I thought I

06:03:05.240 could gaslight you.

06:03:05.880 See, I told you.

06:03:06.900 I told you.

06:03:07.880 I was so close.

06:03:08.520 I got my back

06:03:09.120 here.

06:03:09.300 I told you.

06:03:11.680 Can we pull up

06:03:12.680 young Andrew?

06:03:15.260 Oh my gosh.

06:03:16.240 Guys, I will show

06:03:18.200 you a video of you.

06:03:19.740 Oh, she's melting

06:03:20.300 over here.

06:03:20.920 She's getting a

06:03:21.600 hot spot on.

06:03:21.720 At 22, flexing in a

06:03:24.220 480p webcam for

06:03:28.120 champagne pump.

06:03:28.780 Just saying.

06:03:29.240 Just saying.

06:03:30.440 Okay, twitch.tv slash

06:03:31.880 whatever, guys.

06:03:32.720 Go to twitch.tv slash

06:03:33.720 whatever.

06:03:34.460 Drop us a follow on

06:03:35.060 the Prime sub if you

06:03:36.080 have one.

06:03:37.620 Guys, it's been 14

06:03:38.560 minutes since we last

06:03:39.320 got the Prime.

06:03:39.780 I'm pretty sure it's

06:03:40.320 bugged.

06:03:40.700 Can you help?

06:03:42.820 Help.

06:03:43.740 Louder more.

06:03:44.780 Help.

06:03:45.220 Help.

06:03:45.340 Sweet Cheeks

06:03:46.780 donated $69.

06:03:48.920 I am enjoying a

06:03:50.160 delicious poke bowl

06:03:51.180 whilst riding bicycles.

06:03:53.640 Maybe later a bagel

06:03:54.780 or cozy coffee with a

06:03:56.160 Sammy.

06:03:57.040 Wash it down with a

06:03:58.160 six pack.

06:03:59.360 A keg or a bottle.

06:04:00.780 A small stroll around

06:04:02.100 the plaza four times.

06:04:04.720 Sounds like a plan.

06:04:06.480 What did you just say?

06:04:07.340 Anyways, so moving on.

06:04:08.960 Yeah, moving on.

06:04:10.600 So any dating related

06:04:12.640 topics you guys want to

06:04:13.580 hit on?

06:04:13.900 No, I think I, you

06:04:22.260 guys hit it on the

06:04:22.780 nail for me in my

06:04:24.720 situations.

06:04:25.820 I have one more

06:04:26.540 question to ask that's

06:04:27.920 dating related.

06:04:29.760 I'm going to just start

06:04:30.720 asking all panels this

06:04:31.920 question because I

06:04:32.600 actually want to know

06:04:33.480 the answer to this.

06:04:34.660 Why can't women ever

06:04:35.620 decide where they want

06:04:36.440 to eat?

06:04:37.120 Honest question.

06:04:37.820 Because it always, at

06:04:40.340 least for me, it really

06:04:41.920 just, it depends on my

06:04:43.080 mood.

06:04:44.580 Yeah.

06:04:45.260 But I want a man to

06:04:46.260 decide for me.

06:04:48.760 I just want to turn my

06:04:49.780 brain off and let him

06:04:51.220 take the lead.

06:04:51.780 So when he says, let's go

06:04:53.120 to Subway.

06:04:53.640 Let's go to Subway.

06:04:54.460 You're down?

06:04:54.960 Let's go to Subway.

06:04:55.840 You're never going to have

06:04:56.140 a problem with it?

06:04:57.000 Unless I'm not feeling

06:04:58.020 Subway.

06:04:58.560 But I'm going to always

06:05:00.500 go with whatever he wants,

06:05:02.660 I want.

06:05:03.480 Honestly.

06:05:04.020 Well, this leads me to my

06:05:05.060 second very quick question,

06:05:07.020 which is, you have heard

06:05:08.360 that there are people out

06:05:09.420 there who do not have an

06:05:11.200 internal dialogue, right?

06:05:13.320 Oh, I can't believe that.

06:05:15.120 Yeah, when they think in

06:05:16.420 their head, they don't

06:05:17.840 actually, they don't

06:05:18.960 actually do that.

06:05:19.940 That's not a thing that

06:05:20.760 they do.

06:05:21.640 Yeah.

06:05:22.920 Is there anybody here who

06:05:24.140 does not, and there's no

06:05:25.180 shame in this, right?

06:05:26.140 It's just something that is,

06:05:27.540 is there anybody here who

06:05:28.760 does not have an internal

06:05:29.680 dialogue?

06:05:30.700 Raise your hand if you

06:05:31.480 don't.

06:05:33.980 No?

06:05:35.040 Everyone here has an

06:05:35.880 internal dialogue?

06:05:38.140 I don't know.

06:05:39.040 You look like you, I don't

06:05:40.720 know, you look like maybe

06:05:41.660 you don't have an internal

06:05:42.520 dialogue going on right

06:05:43.640 now.

06:05:45.900 You look, yeah, you look

06:05:47.560 a little baffled by the

06:05:48.600 question.

06:05:48.800 Yeah, you're like, well,

06:05:50.060 wait a second.

06:05:50.560 I'm not baffled by the

06:05:50.660 question.

06:05:51.200 I'm just still kind of

06:05:52.460 shook that some people

06:05:53.500 don't have that.

06:05:55.060 Oh, yeah, that's fair.

06:05:56.800 Yeah.

06:05:57.060 All right.

06:05:57.880 I feel like that's like

06:05:58.780 maybe...

06:05:59.780 I have an ex-boyfriend who

06:06:01.240 said that he didn't have an

06:06:03.100 internal dialogue, and I

06:06:04.560 think that explains a lot of

06:06:05.840 things.

06:06:06.620 Yeah, yeah.

06:06:07.560 I was going to say, it

06:06:09.180 sounds like not necessarily

06:06:10.600 the best thing to have

06:06:13.720 going on.

06:06:15.560 You talked to him, and it

06:06:16.680 was like crickets.

06:06:17.580 I'm just being mean.

06:06:21.060 Sorry.

06:06:21.560 Yeah, I have the dad thing

06:06:22.460 going where I talk to myself

06:06:24.060 all day, and I do it out

06:06:26.080 loud constantly and have

06:06:27.640 arguments with myself, and

06:06:29.580 yeah, I think that this is

06:06:31.400 just a typical man-dad thing

06:06:34.060 that we all do.

06:06:37.240 Oh, I got it from my phone.

06:06:38.420 That and lose whatever tool

06:06:40.200 we're using right in front of

06:06:41.240 us.

06:06:41.480 We do that a lot, too.

06:06:45.800 Yeah, it's a tough crowd.

06:06:46.880 No sense of humor.

06:06:47.920 Nothing.

06:06:48.560 You know, these are real

06:06:49.680 winners.

06:06:50.100 I think they're scared of

06:06:51.540 you guys.

06:06:52.340 I think they're scared.

06:06:53.360 200 Dacopyrus 29 donated

06:06:55.860 $200.

06:06:57.340 Thank you.

06:06:57.760 Andrew doesn't know what

06:06:58.940 he's doing, and I wouldn't

06:07:00.200 trust him in the North Shore

06:07:01.520 on the Fun Flint Trail.

06:07:03.280 Plus, he's slowly killing

06:07:04.720 himself from Toe's smokes.

06:07:06.960 I love Andrew, but he need

06:07:08.540 to look within.

06:07:09.980 Oh, man.

06:07:10.800 Okay.

06:07:12.020 All right.

06:07:12.620 Well, I looked within, and

06:07:14.660 I'm doing okay, man.

06:07:18.540 Sweet.

06:07:19.060 I'll consider it.

06:07:20.500 Me and my internal dialogue

06:07:22.340 have come to the conclusion

06:07:23.960 that I'm doing fine.

06:07:27.500 Wow.

06:07:28.280 I think we need more

06:07:29.240 arguing from her in the

06:07:30.320 corner over there.

06:07:32.520 Huh?

06:07:33.300 We need more arguing.

06:07:34.740 We need to hear your hot

06:07:35.680 takes.

06:07:36.820 On what?

06:07:37.860 Disagreements.

06:07:38.940 On what?

06:07:40.060 I don't know.

06:07:41.320 Feminism?

06:07:43.680 No.

06:07:44.200 Ask me a fun one.

06:07:45.580 Ask me a fun one.

06:07:47.460 Yeah, ask me a fun one.

06:07:48.360 All right.

06:07:49.900 I'll just throw out a really

06:07:50.800 hot take there.

06:07:51.700 See if you bite.

06:07:52.940 Men have been more

06:07:53.780 oppressed than women.

06:07:56.380 Yes.

06:07:58.000 Yes.

06:07:58.540 You're just going to agree?

06:07:59.360 Why do you say that?

06:08:01.400 Because men have been.

06:08:03.040 Why?

06:08:03.320 For one.

06:08:04.120 I have a way hotter take.

06:08:09.900 Women can't troll

06:08:10.600 worth a shit.

06:08:12.360 That's it.

06:08:12.940 I got.

06:08:13.380 I think that's the really

06:08:14.860 the more hot take.

06:08:16.520 Women suck at trolling.

06:08:18.200 They're terrible at it.

06:08:19.080 I agree.

06:08:20.860 Yeah, I agree too.

06:08:22.560 I agree with your agreement.

06:08:24.480 Ulysses, the pagan donated $69.

06:08:28.120 A meritless-based society

06:08:29.760 will inevitably decay.

06:08:31.420 There would be no desire

06:08:32.540 to aspire and to create.

06:08:34.500 What you are describing

06:08:35.640 is socialism.

06:08:37.080 It never works.

06:08:38.300 Why there is only

06:08:39.140 five socialist nation

06:08:40.560 out of 190.

06:08:42.780 Hey, pagan.

06:08:43.480 Thank you for the TTS, man.

06:08:44.460 Appreciate it.

06:08:45.000 Thank you.

06:08:45.320 Oh, the bow video?

06:08:48.500 Well, I want to see

06:08:49.300 if I can get somebody

06:08:50.120 to bite on something.

06:08:54.020 Do you just not want to engage

06:08:55.440 because Andrew is such

06:08:56.320 like a master class

06:08:57.620 magnificent,

06:08:58.600 magnificent,

06:08:59.140 magnificent,

06:09:01.040 magnanimous,

06:09:04.600 magnificent debater.

06:09:07.420 I'm just really hungry right now.

06:09:09.000 You guys smell weed?

06:09:09.960 Yeah, I'm smelling it.

06:09:11.340 I've been smelling weed

06:09:12.480 and cigarettes.

06:09:13.180 It's crazy.

06:09:14.140 I can smell it.

06:09:15.560 That desk is easy.

06:09:16.740 I can smell down there

06:09:17.360 and be smoking all the time.

06:09:18.300 The Karen downstairs.

06:09:19.980 Yeah.

06:09:21.020 She's probably lighting one up.

06:09:22.680 Yeah, so,

06:09:23.660 anything you want to talk about?

06:09:28.260 Why are you pointing at me?

06:09:29.300 You can't smell my cigarettes

06:09:30.240 through the screen.

06:09:31.740 You realize that

06:09:32.760 that's a physical impossibility, right?

06:09:38.080 What you got for us?

06:09:39.140 Give us something.

06:09:40.500 What you got?

06:09:41.500 You got a question.

06:09:42.240 What you got?

06:09:42.800 A question.

06:09:43.140 Kill me.

06:09:46.720 Oh, my God.

06:09:47.820 Whoa.

06:09:51.000 No question.

06:09:52.800 Yeah.

06:09:54.000 I have a question for you.

06:09:55.560 Do you genuinely think

06:09:56.600 that men are more oppressed

06:09:57.400 than women?

06:09:58.060 Bro.

06:09:59.260 He's trying to buy something.

06:10:00.820 He's trying to get

06:10:01.380 something out of you.

06:10:02.840 Give him what he wants to know.

06:10:04.180 Yeah, no.

06:10:08.640 Yes.

06:10:09.900 You're really good

06:10:10.720 at giving those answers.

06:10:12.560 Thank you.

06:10:17.440 I can really hear the crickets now.

06:10:19.760 Without the noise either.

06:10:20.900 It's kind of annoying.

06:10:21.800 I can't,

06:10:23.260 like,

06:10:23.660 the whole show.

06:10:24.100 Can we go back

06:10:24.700 to your husband

06:10:25.780 banging your sister again?

06:10:27.360 I had some questions

06:10:28.260 about that.

06:10:29.040 Okay.

06:10:29.820 Can we jump back

06:10:31.260 to that real quick?

06:10:32.200 Okay.

06:10:32.780 So,

06:10:33.140 because you said

06:10:33.780 that you were in a discussion

06:10:34.880 about this.

06:10:35.900 Yeah.

06:10:36.780 Okay,

06:10:37.160 with him.

06:10:38.080 And that he said

06:10:39.340 that you're better than her.

06:10:41.340 Yeah.

06:10:42.180 I mean,

06:10:42.720 he has to.

06:10:43.360 Okay.

06:10:43.900 He picked her.

06:10:45.040 Yeah,

06:10:45.320 I get it.

06:10:46.240 Okay,

06:10:46.740 but I'm just curious,

06:10:49.040 why would he ever

06:10:50.080 tell the truth,

06:10:50.880 though?

06:10:51.840 Like,

06:10:52.100 why would he ever

06:10:52.560 tell you the truth

06:10:53.220 about that?

06:10:53.960 I mean,

06:10:54.280 he's told me

06:10:55.260 a lot of truths

06:10:56.800 before that I

06:10:57.700 didn't necessarily

06:10:59.580 want to hear.

06:11:00.620 Oh,

06:11:00.940 man.

06:11:01.420 So,

06:11:02.080 for example,

06:11:03.040 some of his exes

06:11:05.020 are a lot prettier

06:11:06.000 than me,

06:11:07.260 and he's told me that.

06:11:09.540 So,

06:11:10.140 I believe him

06:11:11.600 when he tells me.

06:11:12.620 I mean,

06:11:12.740 he's very direct

06:11:13.620 with me,

06:11:14.300 so.

06:11:14.780 Yeah,

06:11:14.920 but wouldn't he have

06:11:15.480 literally every incentive

06:11:16.800 on planet Earth

06:11:17.560 to lie about that?

06:11:18.840 No.

06:11:19.120 To be like,

06:11:19.860 no.

06:11:20.460 I mean,

06:11:21.040 think about how

06:11:21.920 the conversation would go.

06:11:22.920 I'm trying to envision it

06:11:23.660 in my head

06:11:24.220 where if you banged

06:11:26.440 your wife's sister,

06:11:28.060 how you could possibly

06:11:29.260 be like,

06:11:30.020 well,

06:11:30.240 you see,

06:11:31.460 dear,

06:11:32.060 actually,

06:11:32.580 she did this one thing

06:11:33.780 I really like,

06:11:34.760 and I wish you would do it,

06:11:36.200 right?

06:11:36.860 No.

06:11:37.640 It was more of her doing

06:11:39.000 things he didn't like.

06:11:43.160 I mean,

06:11:43.420 they were 16,

06:11:44.120 right?

06:11:44.460 Yeah.

06:11:44.720 Kind of young.

06:11:45.460 So,

06:11:46.000 they're pretty inexperienced.

06:11:49.380 Okay.

06:11:51.140 I mean,

06:11:51.700 I guess that changes things,

06:11:52.800 but I'm just saying,

06:11:53.940 but I don't know,

06:11:55.280 I don't know how

06:11:55.780 that would be believable

06:11:56.780 exactly.

06:11:57.800 Was he ever,

06:11:58.420 like,

06:11:58.720 flirty with you

06:11:59.420 when they were dating?

06:12:00.560 No.

06:12:01.440 You had no interest in him?

06:12:03.060 Yeah.

06:12:03.280 When they were dating?

06:12:03.860 Yeah.

06:12:04.320 I met him.

06:12:05.180 How long were they together?

06:12:06.580 They were together

06:12:07.320 for,

06:12:07.600 like,

06:12:07.660 two years.

06:12:08.280 Oh,

06:12:08.520 wow.

06:12:09.260 But she cheated on him

06:12:11.000 the entire time

06:12:12.180 they were together.

06:12:13.220 Oh,

06:12:13.540 wow.

06:12:13.660 How did,

06:12:14.000 like,

06:12:14.120 your mom and dad react

06:12:15.280 to your relationship

06:12:16.180 with him?

06:12:17.360 They adore him.

06:12:19.500 He's always treated,

06:12:20.400 he always treated her

06:12:21.640 really well.

06:12:23.160 It was just her.

06:12:23.740 They wanted him

06:12:24.200 in the family

06:12:24.620 one way or another.

06:12:25.720 But,

06:12:25.940 like,

06:12:26.100 how long between when?

06:12:27.620 Always treated

06:12:28.300 both their daughters well.

06:12:29.640 Yeah,

06:12:30.180 apparently.

06:12:30.700 And the mom.

06:12:31.680 Just kidding.

06:12:31.880 When your sister

06:12:33.460 broke up with him

06:12:34.480 and,

06:12:35.100 like,

06:12:35.260 what was the length

06:12:36.100 of time between that?

06:12:36.840 It's like a six year

06:12:37.860 difference.

06:12:38.520 And when you started

06:12:39.120 dating him.

06:12:40.280 Yeah.

06:12:40.840 So,

06:12:41.080 the family's like,

06:12:41.740 welcome back.

06:12:42.740 Pretty much,

06:12:43.540 yeah.

06:12:44.200 I mean,

06:12:44.480 he's always stayed

06:12:45.400 pretty close

06:12:46.220 with our family,

06:12:46.980 too.

06:12:47.340 So,

06:12:47.920 and,

06:12:48.480 yeah.

06:12:49.400 How does it feel

06:12:50.360 for you as a wife

06:12:51.240 to hear your husband

06:12:52.080 tell you that

06:12:53.080 other women

06:12:53.780 he's been with

06:12:54.500 are more attractive

06:12:55.240 than you?

06:12:56.540 Um,

06:12:57.300 it doesn't really

06:12:59.260 bother me.

06:12:59.920 I mean,

06:13:00.320 we're,

06:13:00.860 we were best friends

06:13:01.960 before we became

06:13:03.160 married,

06:13:03.680 so we always

06:13:04.320 discussed these

06:13:05.460 things together.

06:13:06.500 Did he say that

06:13:06.740 to you prior

06:13:07.680 to marrying you?

06:13:08.960 Prior,

06:13:09.440 and during,

06:13:10.640 so.

06:13:13.180 Who here

06:13:14.180 would lie

06:13:15.060 to their partner

06:13:15.820 about that?

06:13:16.440 I just got a couple

06:13:17.240 quick clarifying

06:13:18.220 questions because

06:13:19.200 I,

06:13:19.680 I didn't catch

06:13:20.660 all of that

06:13:21.240 combo.

06:13:22.000 So,

06:13:22.380 the first question

06:13:23.040 is,

06:13:23.720 were you doing

06:13:24.280 stuff with this

06:13:24.860 guy while he

06:13:25.420 was dating

06:13:25.780 the sister?

06:13:26.600 No.

06:13:27.800 Not at all,

06:13:28.680 no.

06:13:29.140 I was,

06:13:29.560 I was with

06:13:30.240 other people.

06:13:30.740 You were best friends

06:13:30.820 with him?

06:13:31.680 Yeah,

06:13:31.940 we're best friends.

06:13:33.740 Were you best

06:13:34.380 friends with him

06:13:34.860 then?

06:13:36.100 When?

06:13:37.040 When he was

06:13:37.640 dating your sister?

06:13:39.500 Yeah,

06:13:39.820 we were really

06:13:40.420 good friends.

06:13:43.520 Okay.

06:13:44.600 What a hobnocker.

06:13:45.820 What's a,

06:13:49.120 what's a hobnocker?

06:13:50.400 I don't know,

06:13:50.900 I got it from

06:13:51.300 iCarly when I

06:13:52.040 was in middle

06:13:53.280 school.

06:13:55.400 You're quoting

06:13:56.100 iCarly?

06:13:57.080 From middle

06:13:57.540 school and I've

06:13:58.020 always used it.

06:13:58.960 I just don't

06:13:59.500 swear,

06:14:00.000 so.

06:14:02.160 I'm proud of

06:14:02.860 you for not

06:14:03.280 swearing.

06:14:03.660 Thank you.

06:14:04.300 That's very good.

06:14:04.780 It's the fruits.

06:14:06.980 I don't know

06:14:07.680 if quoting

06:14:08.320 Disney is better

06:14:09.140 than swearing,

06:14:09.880 but okay.

06:14:11.040 Nickelodeon.

06:14:11.520 It's actually,

06:14:12.100 it's Nickelodeon.

06:14:13.820 So.

06:14:15.520 I thought,

06:14:16.260 didn't Disney

06:14:16.900 buy all that out?

06:14:18.240 I don't know.

06:14:18.980 I really don't know.

06:14:19.520 I don't watch

06:14:20.040 any of that

06:14:20.640 anymore.

06:14:21.740 Disney owns

06:14:22.440 everything at this

06:14:23.680 point.

06:14:25.460 If your partner

06:14:26.400 asks,

06:14:27.140 like,

06:14:27.260 would any of you

06:14:27.980 like,

06:14:28.480 lie to them

06:14:28.960 about that

06:14:29.420 to make them

06:14:29.940 feel better?

06:14:32.320 No.

06:14:33.060 No.

06:14:33.680 No.

06:14:34.020 So you would

06:14:34.680 be like,

06:14:35.160 oh yeah,

06:14:35.560 my past partner

06:14:36.460 was better in bed

06:14:37.340 than you?

06:14:37.900 I don't think

06:14:38.360 I would say

06:14:38.820 it like that.

06:14:39.400 I would think

06:14:40.020 that I would

06:14:40.880 personally,

06:14:41.460 like my interest

06:14:42.120 of who I liked

06:14:43.140 and went for

06:14:43.560 in high school

06:14:43.960 is a complete

06:14:45.100 180 from

06:14:46.240 who I'm attracted

06:14:47.040 to now.

06:14:47.760 So I think

06:14:48.800 I would just

06:14:49.220 say I was

06:14:50.400 attracted to

06:14:50.940 that person

06:14:51.440 in whatever

06:14:51.920 manner,

06:14:52.480 but it's

06:14:52.800 different than

06:14:53.160 how I'm

06:14:53.480 attracted to

06:14:54.020 you,

06:14:54.260 and there's

06:14:54.500 just a

06:14:54.760 different bond

06:14:55.180 between that

06:14:55.540 person,

06:14:55.860 but I'm

06:14:56.060 not going

06:14:56.360 to bluntly

06:14:56.760 be like,

06:14:57.220 oh yeah,

06:14:57.480 he was better

06:14:58.080 in bed,

06:14:58.600 he's cuter

06:14:59.420 than you,

06:14:59.860 sexier than

06:15:00.380 you,

06:15:00.560 he did this,

06:15:01.000 he did that,

06:15:01.640 but then continue

06:15:02.420 to date the

06:15:02.960 other guy.

06:15:03.400 How has your

06:15:04.220 attraction changed?

06:15:06.580 So, I mean,

06:15:07.680 I only had

06:15:08.080 one boyfriend

06:15:08.540 in high school

06:15:09.020 that was like

06:15:09.540 almost three

06:15:10.040 years,

06:15:10.500 two and a half

06:15:10.900 years,

06:15:11.320 and he was

06:15:11.840 just like

06:15:12.460 kind of my

06:15:13.900 height,

06:15:14.380 little white

06:15:15.580 guy,

06:15:16.040 I'm from

06:15:16.440 Frankenmuth,

06:15:17.040 Michigan,

06:15:17.560 so it was

06:15:17.940 just a little

06:15:18.620 convenient,

06:15:19.160 happy,

06:15:19.580 yeah,

06:15:19.820 I mean,

06:15:20.100 we lived

06:15:20.360 there,

06:15:20.640 and then I

06:15:22.660 started going

06:15:23.100 to college,

06:15:23.620 and I really

06:15:24.000 wasn't to

06:15:24.400 like the

06:15:24.640 country guys.

06:15:25.660 Frankenmuth

06:15:25.860 sucks.

06:15:27.120 Oh,

06:15:27.820 okay.

06:15:28.840 It sucks,

06:15:29.480 I live very

06:15:29.900 close to

06:15:30.320 Frankenmuth,

06:15:30.940 it's a

06:15:31.180 terrible place.

06:15:31.620 Where are you

06:15:32.220 from?

06:15:33.400 So, I live

06:15:34.380 near Grand

06:15:34.800 Rapids.

06:15:35.460 No way,

06:15:36.260 that's crazy.

06:15:37.420 Anyways,

06:15:38.940 he,

06:15:40.140 my type was

06:15:41.060 kind of more

06:15:41.420 the dad bods,

06:15:42.120 the country,

06:15:42.800 the whatever,

06:15:43.880 because I was

06:15:44.300 into that,

06:15:44.740 and now I

06:15:45.980 like,

06:15:47.520 you know,

06:15:47.900 I'm dabbling

06:15:48.920 more into

06:15:49.440 like the

06:15:49.920 mixed areas.

06:15:52.060 What are you

06:15:52.660 attracted to now?

06:15:53.460 Like,

06:15:53.600 what do you

06:15:53.940 look for in

06:15:54.420 a man?

06:15:54.920 Right now,

06:15:55.700 I am looking

06:15:56.380 for one that

06:15:56.980 can be honest

06:15:57.580 and respectful

06:15:58.300 with me.

06:15:59.100 I'm attracted

06:15:59.540 to a man

06:16:00.260 that can make

06:16:00.760 time and

06:16:01.540 commitment,

06:16:02.040 not lie to

06:16:02.620 me,

06:16:02.880 not,

06:16:03.400 just be

06:16:03.720 straight up,

06:16:04.260 don't beat

06:16:04.700 around the

06:16:05.100 bush,

06:16:05.360 and then I

06:16:06.300 think more

06:16:06.700 I went for

06:16:07.140 physical attraction,

06:16:08.160 now that's just

06:16:08.620 kind of coming

06:16:09.180 second or third

06:16:10.000 to me and I'm

06:16:10.600 realizing that.

06:16:11.540 Do you have

06:16:11.920 like a minimum

06:16:12.500 amount of income

06:16:13.380 that he needs

06:16:14.160 to make?

06:16:14.460 No,

06:16:14.820 because my

06:16:15.300 career,

06:16:15.920 I'm not going

06:16:16.460 to be making

06:16:16.760 jacks,

06:16:17.260 so I mean,

06:16:17.700 I'm not really

06:16:18.120 expecting anybody

06:16:18.900 to make as much

06:16:19.620 either.

06:16:20.180 But are you

06:16:20.540 looking to get

06:16:21.000 married?

06:16:21.600 Oh yeah.

06:16:22.060 So wouldn't it

06:16:22.540 behoove you

06:16:23.240 to be interested

06:16:24.060 in what this

06:16:24.740 person's income

06:16:25.680 potential to do?

06:16:26.680 Yes,

06:16:26.920 100%.

06:16:27.580 Grimnak donated

06:16:28.700 $69.

06:16:30.480 Andrew has been

06:16:31.500 fantastic for my

06:16:32.580 marriage.

06:16:33.640 My wife makes me

06:16:34.680 lunch for work,

06:16:35.900 lays out my clothes

06:16:37.080 for work,

06:16:37.620 and meets me at

06:16:38.500 the door with a

06:16:39.080 kiss and a beer

06:16:39.760 when I get home.

06:16:41.240 God bless you,

06:16:42.100 Andrew.

06:16:42.420 Sounds like

06:16:44.560 a good wife.

06:16:46.540 Wait,

06:16:48.220 bow video?

06:16:49.680 No,

06:16:50.100 no,

06:16:50.360 no,

06:16:50.540 no,

06:16:50.640 no,

06:16:50.920 no,

06:16:51.080 no,

06:16:51.200 no,

06:16:51.300 that's not

06:16:51.680 luck.

06:16:53.260 Having a

06:16:54.020 minimum requirement

06:16:55.060 for the duty

06:16:55.820 of a wife,

06:16:56.940 that's just,

06:16:57.680 you know,

06:16:58.300 what should be

06:16:59.260 the expectations.

06:17:00.560 It shouldn't

06:17:01.380 be luck.

06:17:02.420 It should never

06:17:02.920 be associated

06:17:03.580 with luck

06:17:04.220 that women are

06:17:05.180 held to a

06:17:05.800 minimum standard

06:17:06.840 for behavior.

06:17:07.900 That's not luck,

06:17:09.320 that's what

06:17:09.800 they all should

06:17:10.560 do.

06:17:11.100 That's my

06:17:12.460 opinion.

06:17:13.120 I think it's

06:17:13.580 fair to hold

06:17:14.040 men to a

06:17:14.980 same standard,

06:17:15.700 right,

06:17:15.860 a minimum

06:17:16.180 standard for

06:17:16.760 behavior,

06:17:17.800 but we sure

06:17:18.560 as shit don't

06:17:19.040 do that with

06:17:19.480 women at all.

06:17:25.520 Nobody's going

06:17:26.040 to disagree with

06:17:26.660 them?

06:17:27.220 You're just

06:17:27.440 going to bite

06:17:27.900 your tongue?

06:17:29.280 I agree.

06:17:30.040 I agree with

06:17:30.480 what he said.

06:17:31.760 Really?

06:17:32.400 Yeah.

06:17:34.400 Really?

06:17:36.040 I think men

06:17:37.240 should hold

06:17:37.620 their women to

06:17:38.360 have some

06:17:39.340 standards and

06:17:39.840 make it

06:17:40.580 I agree

06:17:41.900 with him.

06:17:42.520 I just

06:17:42.720 feel like

06:17:44.960 women...

06:17:45.240 Isn't that

06:17:45.620 like the

06:17:45.980 least they

06:17:46.420 can do

06:17:46.880 is make

06:17:47.760 your fucking

06:17:48.200 lunch and

06:17:49.200 meet you at

06:17:49.960 the door with

06:17:50.460 a beer?

06:17:51.140 It doesn't...

06:17:51.960 It seems like

06:17:52.760 it's the easiest

06:17:53.360 job in the world

06:17:54.480 to just not

06:17:55.840 be an insufferable

06:17:57.020 bitch.

06:17:57.520 It seems like

06:17:58.080 that would be

06:17:58.480 the easiest

06:17:58.980 thing in the

06:17:59.500 world,

06:17:59.880 but it seems

06:18:00.880 to be extremely

06:18:02.240 hard for women

06:18:02.960 and they're like,

06:18:03.360 well, you see,

06:18:04.100 due to my

06:18:04.560 solipsism and

06:18:05.520 rampant selfishness,

06:18:06.840 I just can't

06:18:08.400 do it for you.

06:18:09.220 I just can't.

06:18:10.500 It would just...

06:18:11.380 Something in me

06:18:12.480 wants to be

06:18:13.400 rebellious towards

06:18:14.380 the fact that

06:18:15.420 you want me to

06:18:16.120 act like a

06:18:16.580 proper wife.

06:18:17.360 That's just

06:18:17.680 something I've

06:18:18.980 noted.

06:18:19.640 Well, I think

06:18:19.960 you brought up

06:18:20.340 earlier, it's

06:18:20.900 kind of some

06:18:21.380 days it's 80-20.

06:18:23.260 I mean, you

06:18:23.620 might have a

06:18:24.040 day where you're

06:18:25.100 not feeling your

06:18:25.640 best, you're not

06:18:25.960 able to do

06:18:26.440 something, so the

06:18:27.120 husband picks up

06:18:27.940 a little bit, but

06:18:28.440 then maybe a week

06:18:29.260 later it's opposite

06:18:30.060 roles.

06:18:30.500 It's just kind of

06:18:31.220 a pulley system.

06:18:33.160 I think the...

06:18:34.040 Go ahead.

06:18:34.680 Well, I was

06:18:35.620 going to say, what

06:18:36.700 women need to

06:18:37.300 constantly keep in

06:18:38.220 check is their

06:18:39.080 emotions.

06:18:40.280 We're not taught

06:18:41.280 that, and society

06:18:42.640 is actually, I

06:18:43.740 think, capitalizing

06:18:44.660 on women's

06:18:45.280 emotions, and it's

06:18:46.220 making them more

06:18:46.940 emotional.

06:18:47.620 I agree.

06:18:48.500 There's so many

06:18:49.320 things that influence

06:18:50.260 the way that we

06:18:52.080 react, and our

06:18:53.220 hormones are being

06:18:53.940 impacted not just by

06:18:55.160 the food that we

06:18:55.720 eat, but the

06:18:56.140 products we put on

06:18:56.820 our bodies as

06:18:57.480 well.

06:18:58.080 That's a whole

06:18:58.600 other topic, but

06:18:59.880 women need to keep

06:19:01.420 their emotions in

06:19:02.240 check.

06:19:02.560 They're highly

06:19:03.380 emotional, and

06:19:04.700 that will lead you

06:19:05.840 to all of the

06:19:07.360 misery.

06:19:07.820 You will create it

06:19:08.500 in your head.

06:19:09.140 I struggle with

06:19:09.640 that, and I've

06:19:10.200 sabotaged my

06:19:11.040 relationships because

06:19:12.060 of that.

06:19:12.620 I cannot...

06:19:13.300 I can express my

06:19:14.280 emotion very well,

06:19:15.180 but many men do

06:19:16.140 not like that, and

06:19:17.140 I need to learn

06:19:17.840 when is the

06:19:18.860 appropriate time to

06:19:19.500 express it and

06:19:20.200 when it's not.

06:19:20.880 Can you demonstrate

06:19:21.500 a way in which

06:19:22.180 you've expressed

06:19:23.380 your emotions and

06:19:24.220 it had a negative

06:19:24.780 impact on your

06:19:25.460 relationship?

06:19:25.980 Yeah, definitely.

06:19:26.780 I get...

06:19:27.340 Roll play.

06:19:27.880 Go ahead.

06:19:28.960 Oh, I don't

06:19:29.660 think I can

06:19:30.040 roll play.

06:19:30.700 Say it in the

06:19:31.580 same tone.

06:19:32.560 That you said

06:19:33.140 it to your

06:19:33.480 boyfriend.

06:19:35.700 Oh, man.

06:19:36.920 Do I need to

06:19:37.600 roll play?

06:19:38.100 Yep.

06:19:38.960 Okay, let's

06:19:40.120 see.

06:19:40.940 Well, I like...

06:19:42.000 Okay, I just

06:19:42.600 get kind of really

06:19:44.080 upset, and I feel

06:19:45.280 like when he's not

06:19:47.040 listening to me, I

06:19:48.280 get louder and

06:19:49.220 louder.

06:19:49.640 Okay, demonstrate.

06:19:52.920 Okay.

06:19:53.920 Can you be my

06:19:54.820 ex?

06:19:55.320 Okay, okay.

06:19:57.160 You're not

06:19:57.740 listening to me.

06:19:58.440 Why are you not

06:19:58.920 listening to me?

06:19:59.540 Like, you are just

06:20:00.020 on your phone.

06:20:00.520 You're picking up

06:20:01.020 your phone.

06:20:01.460 Shut up.

06:20:03.460 That's what he'd

06:20:03.960 do, too.

06:20:05.000 I'm not even

06:20:05.420 playing.

06:20:05.980 Yeah, but you're

06:20:06.660 telling me.

06:20:06.940 So your ex was

06:20:07.620 awesome?

06:20:08.280 Your ex was

06:20:08.820 awesome in every

06:20:09.540 conceivable way?

06:20:10.280 We just struggled

06:20:10.300 with our

06:20:10.700 communicating.

06:20:11.740 Like, I mean...

06:20:12.220 That's literally

06:20:12.800 Andrew Tate, too.

06:20:13.920 Like, shut up.

06:20:14.760 Yeah, I mean, I

06:20:15.820 knew what I was

06:20:16.620 doing was not

06:20:17.260 beneficial at all,

06:20:18.280 but I needed that,

06:20:19.940 hey, okay, listen,

06:20:20.720 I hear you, Haley.

06:20:22.260 Take a moment.

06:20:22.840 Take a breather.

06:20:23.500 I'm not going to

06:20:24.040 listen to you if

06:20:24.520 you're going to

06:20:24.800 yell at me, and

06:20:25.440 I'm not going to

06:20:26.260 listen to him if

06:20:26.760 he's clearly acting

06:20:27.680 disinterested into

06:20:28.740 our conversation.

06:20:29.720 You have to

06:20:29.740 emotionally detach

06:20:30.000 yourself.

06:20:30.360 Yeah, I just

06:20:30.660 have to...

06:20:31.200 That's something

06:20:31.660 I'm learning.

06:20:32.120 It's a process.

06:20:34.660 Is it a journey?

06:20:36.700 Oh, it's a journey,

06:20:37.760 yeah.

06:20:37.960 It's a journey.

06:20:38.720 It's not so easy.

06:20:40.340 Psalm 21, an

06:20:41.260 egging wife.

06:20:41.700 It's a show, Andrew.

06:20:43.880 Nick?

06:20:44.680 You mean the girl.

06:20:46.080 That girl from

06:20:46.620 last show?

06:20:47.580 Yeah.

06:20:47.800 It's your emotional

06:20:48.400 controlled journey.

06:20:50.180 Andrew, you'll get a

06:20:50.860 kick out of this, so

06:20:51.680 we reacted to this

06:20:52.920 earlier on in the

06:20:53.640 show.

06:20:54.680 This girl submitted

06:20:56.040 her dating app

06:20:56.740 profile, and

06:20:58.600 Oh, I had a

06:20:59.600 comment on her

06:21:00.380 profile.

06:21:01.460 I didn't know if

06:21:01.980 we were allowed to.

06:21:02.560 Do you have it?

06:21:03.160 Yeah.

06:21:04.340 Okay.

06:21:05.520 See, my problem is

06:21:06.980 running a race.

06:21:08.280 Looser has to make

06:21:10.040 all the small

06:21:10.680 jobs.

06:21:10.880 Looser.

06:21:11.300 Not loser.

06:21:11.920 Yeah, well, she

06:21:12.760 goes to Princeton, but

06:21:13.940 English is not her

06:21:14.780 strong suit.

06:21:15.160 No way she does.

06:21:15.680 Next.

06:21:17.040 Okay, so she says

06:21:18.160 dating me is like

06:21:19.180 going on a

06:21:20.100 spontaneous adventure.

06:21:22.980 Next.

06:21:23.800 Next.

06:21:24.140 But the most

06:21:26.500 spontaneous thing

06:21:27.440 she's ever done is

06:21:28.260 download this dating

06:21:30.000 app, Hinge.

06:21:37.960 So if dating her is

06:21:39.180 like going on a

06:21:40.040 spontaneous adventure,

06:21:41.860 but the most

06:21:42.660 spontaneous thing she's

06:21:43.740 ever done is

06:21:44.180 downloading a dating

06:21:44.980 app, what do you

06:21:46.960 think, Andrew?

06:21:47.480 Are the prospects of

06:21:48.360 it being a worthy

06:21:52.140 adventure?

06:21:52.640 I mean, an

06:21:55.280 adventure to do

06:21:56.160 what exactly?

06:21:57.880 To, I mean, what

06:21:58.860 is her adventure?

06:22:01.420 The most spontaneous

06:22:02.540 thing that I've ever

06:22:03.460 done is got an app and

06:22:04.680 taken pictures of

06:22:05.460 myself half naked.

06:22:06.880 Highly spontaneous

06:22:07.720 woman, right?

06:22:09.160 It sounds like it's a

06:22:10.220 choose your own

06:22:10.980 adventure, meaning

06:22:12.220 that you get her and

06:22:13.620 then you get to take

06:22:14.520 her on your

06:22:15.520 adventures.

06:22:16.440 That's what it

06:22:17.160 sounds like to me.

06:22:19.960 I don't think I've

06:22:20.920 ever had a girl take

06:22:22.560 me on an adventure.

06:22:25.420 I've taken my ex on

06:22:26.540 an adventure.

06:22:27.360 No, I don't think

06:22:27.920 I've had a girl like

06:22:28.640 Bella.

06:22:29.000 Let me take you to

06:22:30.260 fucking...

06:22:30.700 Well, okay.

06:22:31.300 Well, what kind of

06:22:32.080 adventure did you take

06:22:32.860 your ex on?

06:22:33.600 Don't...

06:22:33.860 Okay, so here's the

06:22:34.620 rules, though.

06:22:35.360 Oh, man.

06:22:35.840 You can't say camping,

06:22:37.500 you can't say kayaking,

06:22:38.940 and you can't say a

06:22:39.780 hike.

06:22:40.440 Nada.

06:22:40.980 Oh.

06:22:41.300 No.

06:22:42.100 No, I just...

06:22:43.080 I planned a surprise

06:22:44.140 date, and one day, and

06:22:45.480 he knew, like, when the

06:22:46.320 day was, but he didn't

06:22:48.020 know what it was.

06:22:48.660 Just told him, like,

06:22:49.980 don't wear sweats, and I

06:22:51.120 just took him to a little

06:22:51.800 winery because we were

06:22:52.680 trying to...

06:22:53.280 We did wine nights

06:22:54.020 together, so we were

06:22:54.600 just trying to figure out

06:22:55.140 a good wine that we both

06:22:55.980 liked and could buy and

06:22:57.320 drink together, and it

06:22:58.020 was a lot of fun.

06:22:59.660 That's a date.

06:23:00.360 That's not an adventure.

06:23:01.700 That's a date.

06:23:02.440 That's an adventure for us

06:23:03.760 because we don't really go

06:23:04.600 out, and we didn't do a

06:23:05.780 lot.

06:23:06.320 Like, that's an adventure

06:23:07.520 to me.

06:23:09.740 Your adventure is going

06:23:11.120 and tasting, tasting

06:23:12.200 wine at a local winery?

06:23:14.480 Sure.

06:23:14.640 That's an adventure?

06:23:15.600 I don't see a problem with

06:23:15.780 that.

06:23:16.780 I mean, we were both from

06:23:18.060 school at the time.

06:23:18.640 We can't go book a

06:23:19.600 weekend away.

06:23:23.300 That's not a very good

06:23:24.100 adventure.

06:23:25.560 Yeah, I have different

06:23:26.460 levels of adventures.

06:23:27.820 I was hoping for some

06:23:28.680 Indiana Jones shit, you

06:23:30.120 know what I mean?

06:23:30.600 There was a tank.

06:23:31.140 Maybe if I had the time

06:23:32.180 and income.

06:23:32.740 It was crazy.

06:23:34.280 He ducked under a doorway,

06:23:36.160 and he grabbed his head.

06:23:36.960 You know, not I went to a

06:23:39.120 winery and sip wine.

06:23:40.180 That doesn't sound very

06:23:41.560 adventurous.

06:23:42.460 Okay.

06:23:42.780 I feel like I've been on

06:23:48.860 an adventure, kind of.

06:23:50.740 My girlfriend took me to

06:23:52.080 the woods to try and find

06:23:53.580 mushrooms that we could

06:23:54.520 eat.

06:23:55.640 We did not find any.

06:23:56.640 Mushroom hunting.

06:23:57.280 Yeah.

06:23:57.780 All right.

06:23:58.480 That was fun.

06:24:00.080 Okay.

06:24:02.360 I have a topic I want to

06:24:03.560 touch on.

06:24:04.040 This will probably be the

06:24:04.720 last.

06:24:05.040 We'll do the roast

06:24:05.600 session, then we'll try to

06:24:07.240 wrap up.

06:24:07.720 So, show of hands, who

06:24:15.540 here has been on the

06:24:16.120 dating app at any point?

06:24:19.120 Never.

06:24:19.600 No dating app?

06:24:20.360 No dating app?

06:24:21.420 Dating app.

06:24:25.240 As a woman, if you're on

06:24:26.540 a dating app and you're

06:24:27.600 like using the dating app

06:24:28.760 in a location, you only

06:24:29.880 know that you're going to

06:24:30.960 be in for like one, two,

06:24:32.380 or three weeks, what would

06:24:35.220 you think?

06:24:36.500 Like, hey, sorry about

06:24:40.320 that.

06:24:40.720 What the fuck?

06:24:41.680 I'm yelling at my cat

06:24:42.840 right now.

06:24:45.360 I was like, what the

06:24:46.480 fuck?

06:24:47.720 Okay.

06:24:48.900 What do you think, like,

06:24:50.580 the expectation there

06:24:51.660 would be, like, what could

06:24:53.060 a woman possibly want on a

06:24:55.000 dating app if she's, like,

06:24:57.080 in a different location for

06:24:58.200 one or two weeks?

06:24:59.520 And she's using the dating

06:25:00.500 app there.

06:25:01.860 Very obvious.

06:25:02.820 She's just looking for a

06:25:03.560 hookup.

06:25:04.680 Right.

06:25:05.080 I would assume she's, like,

06:25:06.000 DTF because, like, you're

06:25:08.620 only here for a short

06:25:09.500 period of time.

06:25:10.620 Yeah.

06:25:11.100 Right.

06:25:11.340 What other possibility

06:25:12.820 exists besides a short-term

06:25:14.940 point?

06:25:15.200 She's so shallow, she

06:25:16.280 might just want to free me

06:25:17.460 all.

06:25:18.560 I didn't even think about

06:25:19.840 that.

06:25:20.320 Yeah.

06:25:20.820 But I've encountered

06:25:22.020 this.

06:25:22.480 Like, there will be girls

06:25:23.220 who are on dating app,

06:25:24.400 they're in town temporarily,

06:25:25.500 a long time ago, but they

06:25:27.560 don't want to hook up.

06:25:29.660 And they'll do the thing,

06:25:30.460 like, I had one experience.

06:25:31.960 I was on a dating app.

06:25:33.600 She was in town for one,

06:25:35.040 two weeks, and she lived,

06:25:37.080 like, in a different state

06:25:38.220 or something.

06:25:39.520 And she, we met up, and I

06:25:42.840 was under the impression,

06:25:43.800 like, she would be more

06:25:45.460 inclined to have a, not a

06:25:47.100 one-night stand, but, like,

06:25:47.920 a more casual hookup while

06:25:49.160 she was here.

06:25:49.940 We'd continue seeing each

06:25:51.040 other, have a fling,

06:25:51.900 whatever.

06:25:52.780 When I say continue seeing

06:25:53.960 each other, I mean just we

06:25:55.740 would hang out a couple

06:25:56.520 times, and then that would be

06:25:57.740 kind of the extent of it,

06:25:59.100 unless she came back.

06:26:00.220 But then she wanted to

06:26:02.080 keep hanging out, but she

06:26:03.560 didn't want to hook up,

06:26:05.400 and that was, like,

06:26:06.020 confusing.

06:26:06.720 I was like, what do you

06:26:09.960 hope to achieve?

06:26:10.680 Because you're going back

06:26:11.520 home in a week or two,

06:26:13.660 so to me it just seemed

06:26:15.900 kind of weird.

06:26:17.820 Maybe she wanted a

06:26:18.600 relationship.

06:26:19.820 Yeah, but why is she on

06:26:20.560 a dating app in a city she

06:26:21.820 doesn't live in?

06:26:23.280 Maybe she's able to travel.

06:26:26.440 She might be able to travel

06:26:27.680 and come back and visit,

06:26:28.760 but, I mean.

06:26:30.360 But she knew who you

06:26:31.060 were.

06:26:31.420 She was bored.

06:26:32.020 She knew who you were.

06:26:33.200 What do you mean?

06:26:33.500 Like, she knew that you

06:26:34.220 had, like, a pretty big

06:26:34.960 following.

06:26:35.940 No, it, no.

06:26:37.300 This is prior to your

06:26:38.400 podcast?

06:26:40.300 Yeah, well, prior to me

06:26:41.360 starting my podcast, this

06:26:42.360 was three years ago,

06:26:44.180 probably.

06:26:44.860 Something, I don't know

06:26:45.640 the exact timeline here.

06:26:47.300 This is weird, bruv.

06:26:48.760 That is weird.

06:26:49.220 But it wasn't, like, a

06:26:49.940 hard, like, where she was

06:26:51.380 like, oh, I still want to

06:26:52.120 hang out, but, and I

06:26:53.060 was like.

06:26:53.500 Maybe she wanted a

06:26:54.000 companion.

06:26:55.060 Yeah.

06:26:56.080 Attention.

06:26:56.360 Brian, your tour guide,

06:26:57.460 bro.

06:26:57.680 Attention?

06:26:58.600 Brian, your tour guide.

06:27:00.400 Yeah, she probably

06:27:00.940 wanted attention.

06:27:02.120 Yeah.

06:27:05.100 Did you pay for any

06:27:06.140 meals for her?

06:27:07.940 I think we just met

06:27:08.900 for a drink.

06:27:10.980 Did you buy her a

06:27:11.820 drink?

06:27:12.060 Yeah, I got her a

06:27:12.640 drink.

06:27:13.500 She's looking for free

06:27:14.360 drinks.

06:27:15.460 No, no girl's going on

06:27:16.880 a date for, like, a

06:27:17.820 drink.

06:27:17.880 Just for a free drink.

06:27:19.000 Like, a $10, yeah, I

06:27:20.660 don't think that's worth

06:27:21.960 the effort, but I just

06:27:23.840 thought it was

06:27:24.120 interesting.

06:27:25.000 Yeah, that is

06:27:25.440 interesting.

06:27:27.020 Word?

06:27:28.040 Mm-hmm.

06:27:29.080 Okay.

06:27:30.040 All right.

06:27:30.880 Any final thoughts from

06:27:32.220 anybody else on the

06:27:32.920 panel?

06:27:33.280 Otherwise, I'm going to

06:27:33.920 hold on.

06:27:34.780 Let me just read.

06:27:35.280 I had to, um, hold

06:27:36.280 on.

06:27:37.060 I'm going to let

06:27:37.500 these.

06:27:38.880 For underscore the

06:27:40.280 underscore patriarchy

06:27:41.460 donated $69.

06:27:43.660 Miss Nevada, instead

06:27:45.440 lies such as of world

06:27:46.800 peace.

06:27:47.600 Please answer every

06:27:48.640 contest question

06:27:49.660 promoting women being

06:27:50.880 submissive to their

06:27:51.880 husbands.

06:27:53.080 Brickson, watch out.

06:27:54.580 I think I see

06:27:55.940 lint on your hoodie.

06:27:57.340 It's true.

06:27:58.040 Fuck.

06:27:58.600 Wait, instead

06:27:59.300 lies such as

06:28:00.520 words of peace.

06:28:01.860 Please answer

06:28:02.440 everything.

06:28:03.820 Lord of

06:28:04.800 Ukulele donated

06:28:05.800 $100.

06:28:07.600 For the two

06:28:08.140 girls, look up

06:28:09.580 Junko Furuta, and

06:28:11.160 tell me her male

06:28:12.020 family members are

06:28:13.020 equal victims of

06:28:14.160 suffering as her, I

06:28:15.480 dare y'all.

06:28:16.600 Andrew, can't wait

06:28:17.900 for you to rip

06:28:18.740 destiny and you

06:28:19.600 won.

06:28:19.940 Yo, Ukulele, thank

06:28:23.520 you for the TTS

06:28:25.080 man, really

06:28:25.480 appreciate it.

06:28:26.040 Thank you, bro.

06:28:27.440 And we have one

06:28:28.480 from Bradford.

06:28:29.260 Rendon Bradford

06:28:30.140 donated $69.

06:28:32.600 Question for the

06:28:33.440 panel, how would

06:28:34.420 you react to a

06:28:35.260 nice-looking guy

06:28:36.060 approaching you in

06:28:37.020 a public place while

06:28:38.060 he is with one of

06:28:38.900 his children?

06:28:40.000 Is that icky?

06:28:41.420 Can I talk?

06:28:42.440 I've actually had

06:28:43.220 that happen at my

06:28:44.360 gym.

06:28:44.940 It's a super cute

06:28:45.840 gym, but you can,

06:28:47.140 like, they have a

06:28:47.880 little cafe where you

06:28:48.880 can buy drinks.

06:28:50.820 We were sitting in

06:28:51.400 the hot tub.

06:28:52.500 I had seen him in

06:28:53.520 the gym before, but

06:28:55.840 she's, like, she

06:28:57.020 looks like she's at

06:28:59.240 least in, like, upper

06:29:00.040 elementary.

06:29:01.180 So I kind of, and

06:29:02.400 he looks younger.

06:29:03.840 Like, he clearly had

06:29:04.680 her when she was a

06:29:05.400 teenager, and we

06:29:06.080 talked about this,

06:29:06.920 actually, but, like,

06:29:07.920 I was under the

06:29:09.760 impression that it

06:29:10.580 was maybe, like, a

06:29:11.740 little sister or

06:29:13.140 something that he

06:29:13.860 was just bringing

06:29:14.640 with him to the

06:29:15.440 gym because he

06:29:16.640 didn't have, like, a

06:29:17.520 wedding band or

06:29:18.320 anything.

06:29:19.880 And no, it was

06:29:21.780 not, it wasn't

06:29:23.120 icky, but it was

06:29:27.860 definitely just weird

06:29:29.980 because then she was,

06:29:32.740 like, sitting right

06:29:33.360 there, and I'm,

06:29:34.100 like, you're offering

06:29:36.520 to buy me a drink and

06:29:37.520 trying to flirt with

06:29:38.140 me in front of your

06:29:39.620 child.

06:29:41.160 It just seems really

06:29:42.620 weird to me.

06:29:43.340 Did you have previous

06:29:44.080 interactions with him

06:29:44.940 at your gym?

06:29:45.600 No, that was the

06:29:46.300 first time we had

06:29:46.900 ever talked.

06:29:47.740 And he approached

06:29:48.240 you with his

06:29:48.700 daughter?

06:29:49.520 He didn't approach

06:29:50.380 me with his

06:29:51.040 daughter.

06:29:51.800 We had been

06:29:52.200 sitting in the

06:29:52.700 hot tub, and we

06:29:53.720 just, like, everyone

06:29:54.840 in the hot tub ends

06:29:55.620 up striking up a

06:29:56.360 conversation at some

06:29:57.240 point, and she came

06:29:58.120 and joined us in the

06:29:58.900 hot tub.

06:29:59.620 Oh, the daughter?

06:30:00.400 The daughter joined?

06:30:01.160 That's so cool.

06:30:01.660 You guys have a hot

06:30:02.140 tub at your gym?

06:30:02.800 Yeah, dude, it's

06:30:03.480 such a nice, we just

06:30:04.160 got a cold plunge.

06:30:06.760 Speaking of gyms,

06:30:08.580 how, why is it that

06:30:09.300 you guys think that

06:30:10.300 gyms, which only

06:30:11.880 allow women to

06:30:12.780 go, don't do

06:30:14.240 very well?

06:30:16.860 I didn't know

06:30:17.500 that.

06:30:18.060 Yeah, I didn't

06:30:18.500 know that either.

06:30:19.260 I didn't even know

06:30:19.820 they made gyms just

06:30:20.580 for women.

06:30:21.420 Oh, yeah.

06:30:22.320 I didn't know that.

06:30:23.160 Well, you see, there

06:30:23.880 was such a pandemic

06:30:24.820 of women getting

06:30:26.020 harassed at gyms,

06:30:28.260 you see, because I

06:30:29.560 guess men just can't

06:30:30.420 seem to control

06:30:31.140 themselves.

06:30:32.400 There was a slew of

06:30:33.560 different entrepreneurs

06:30:34.360 who have tried all

06:30:36.160 female gyms with

06:30:37.500 only female

06:30:38.300 memberships, and they

06:30:39.880 did not do very

06:30:40.760 well, it turns out

06:30:41.680 that women don't

06:30:42.400 want to go to

06:30:43.060 women-only gyms.

06:30:44.720 That's really weird

06:30:45.800 to me.

06:30:46.400 If you had to guess

06:30:47.240 why that is, what

06:30:48.360 would your guess be?

06:30:49.480 Attention.

06:30:50.740 Yeah.

06:30:55.540 I don't know, I'm

06:30:56.480 at a women's only

06:30:57.220 gym, and it's

06:30:58.140 pretty full always.

06:31:01.540 I like to work

06:31:02.540 out, too.

06:31:04.100 Boom.

06:31:05.560 Here you go.

06:31:06.380 Just attention, you

06:31:11.000 think that's it?

06:31:12.420 I think women

06:31:13.260 probably want to

06:31:14.980 scout out their

06:31:15.940 options, perhaps, so

06:31:17.500 they go manhunting at

06:31:18.920 the gym.

06:31:19.780 I mean, yeah, a woman

06:31:20.800 wants a man who works

06:31:21.780 out.

06:31:22.520 Right.

06:31:22.920 Best place to find

06:31:23.640 them.

06:31:24.200 Is that the gym?

06:31:27.060 Maybe they work out

06:31:28.040 with a male.

06:31:29.540 Oh, yeah, get

06:31:30.080 yourself a good gym

06:31:30.860 bro.

06:31:31.300 Yeah.

06:31:32.160 Maybe they encourage

06:31:32.900 them more.

06:31:33.300 I've seen a lot

06:31:34.840 of times when men

06:31:36.640 will go up to the

06:31:37.460 women and encourage

06:31:38.460 them when they're

06:31:39.220 lifting and help

06:31:40.060 them out.

06:31:41.660 I've seen so many

06:31:42.640 videos of women

06:31:44.440 setting up a camera

06:31:45.520 and then, you know,

06:31:48.040 they're working out

06:31:48.720 and then they try to

06:31:49.680 like make a video of

06:31:51.160 like this man

06:31:51.740 approaching them

06:31:52.420 and they're like,

06:31:52.880 I wish I could just

06:31:53.880 be left alone at the

06:31:54.800 gym.

06:31:55.060 And it's like, girl,

06:31:56.100 you asked for it.

06:31:56.940 You're wearing short

06:31:57.680 shorts with a little

06:31:58.460 scrunchie up the butt.

06:31:59.960 Like you got the

06:32:00.680 sports bra on, like

06:32:02.000 come on.

06:32:02.560 Like, what are you

06:32:03.300 doing?

06:32:04.140 That's not even what's

06:32:04.860 happening in the videos.

06:32:05.880 The women will be

06:32:06.980 dressed in the way

06:32:07.840 that you're describing

06:32:08.620 and a guy will glance

06:32:10.200 vaguely in their

06:32:11.460 direction and then

06:32:12.680 they'll like totally

06:32:13.820 blow it out of

06:32:14.460 proportion and say

06:32:16.300 that the guy was

06:32:16.960 creeping on them.

06:32:18.080 Right.

06:32:18.360 I mean, that's what's

06:32:19.020 really happening.

06:32:20.020 I feel so sorry for

06:32:21.140 men.

06:32:21.880 It's hard to be a man

06:32:23.020 today.

06:32:23.520 Why?

06:32:23.880 I mean, even removing

06:32:25.600 like this sort of gender

06:32:26.740 component to it, I don't

06:32:27.680 think people should be

06:32:28.320 filming in gyms,

06:32:29.740 period.

06:32:30.380 Right.

06:32:30.600 Do you think that all

06:32:33.140 female gyms would do

06:32:34.280 better or all male gyms

06:32:35.680 would do better?

06:32:36.960 All male.

06:32:37.720 All male.

06:32:38.800 I don't think enough

06:32:40.020 women work out.

06:32:41.540 That's probably part of

06:32:42.560 the problem as well.

06:32:46.220 Think so?

06:32:46.920 I think more men than

06:32:50.740 women partake in gym

06:32:53.120 activities and prioritize

06:32:55.640 their fitness.

06:32:56.500 You know, I'm not sure

06:32:57.860 if that's actually true.

06:32:59.520 They could just be

06:33:00.200 prioritizing it in

06:33:01.120 different ways that

06:33:01.760 don't include a gym.

06:33:03.300 All right.

06:33:03.660 TTS has been lowered to

06:33:04.600 30 if you want.

06:33:05.560 Get them in.

06:33:06.080 We'll do a row section.

06:33:06.980 I have to pause it

06:33:07.580 temporarily because I just

06:33:08.540 want to scan a couple of

06:33:10.620 them and we'll let it

06:33:12.600 come through.

06:33:13.080 We'll do a brief row

06:33:14.140 section and then we'll

06:33:14.960 wrap up the show if you

06:33:16.000 want and get them in.

06:33:17.200 I do want to go around

06:33:18.000 the table on one

06:33:19.020 question to maybe get

06:33:20.620 things a little more

06:33:21.340 lively.

06:33:21.920 Who knows?

06:33:22.640 Who knows?

06:33:23.840 We'll see.

06:33:25.120 This is dating related.

06:33:26.720 So would you object to

06:33:30.680 a man not wanting to

06:33:32.100 date a transgender woman

06:33:34.760 starting with you?

06:33:37.320 I mean, it's all about

06:33:38.600 preference.

06:33:39.360 If they don't want to

06:33:40.520 date a transgender woman,

06:33:42.120 they don't have to.

06:33:42.940 But do you think it would

06:33:43.600 be like hinting towards

06:33:44.760 being transphobic?

06:33:46.000 Not unless they're just

06:33:49.640 like outright transphobic.

06:33:51.800 Let's assume they're

06:33:52.580 not.

06:33:53.020 But the reason they don't

06:33:54.980 want to date this person

06:33:55.780 is because they're trans.

06:33:59.020 I mean, everyone has a

06:34:00.680 preference, so I don't

06:34:01.600 think that's...

06:34:02.620 No.

06:34:05.000 Oh.

06:34:07.660 Yeah, everyone has a

06:34:08.700 preference.

06:34:09.280 Okay.

06:34:10.120 Can you say the question?

06:34:11.120 I missed it.

06:34:11.920 Let's just...

06:34:13.760 That's fine.

06:34:15.280 You can skip me.

06:34:16.920 No.

06:34:17.800 I'd be gay.

06:34:18.700 No.

06:34:19.720 No.

06:34:20.840 Wait, sorry.

06:34:21.480 Say that one more time.

06:34:22.500 I said no.

06:34:23.220 That'd be gay.

06:34:25.140 No.

06:34:25.640 I can't say that.

06:34:26.440 Sorry.

06:34:26.760 No, it's not.

06:34:28.400 It's...

06:34:28.920 You're fine.

06:34:32.860 No.

06:34:34.720 So you brought up

06:34:35.620 something interesting

06:34:36.200 there.

06:34:36.500 You said it would be gay

06:34:37.860 for a man to date a

06:34:39.980 transgender woman.

06:34:41.240 Mm-hmm.

06:34:42.000 I guess going back around

06:34:43.480 the table, do you object to

06:34:45.200 that categorization that it

06:34:46.560 would be gay?

06:34:48.920 It would not be straight for a

06:34:51.280 man to date a transgender

06:34:52.380 woman?

06:34:52.780 I don't want to answer.

06:35:04.240 Hmm?

06:35:04.880 Can I not answer?

06:35:10.040 I mean, it's...

06:35:11.480 We're not going to judge your...

06:35:12.980 You can have your position.

06:35:14.440 I don't think we're going to be

06:35:15.220 upset if you...

06:35:16.260 No.

06:35:16.520 With your position.

06:35:18.440 I think if they transition to a

06:35:20.760 woman, it would be considered a

06:35:22.340 straight relationship.

06:35:23.820 Okay.

06:35:24.420 What about you?

06:35:25.120 I think it'd be considered

06:35:26.240 straight.

06:35:27.080 Considered straight?

06:35:28.020 Yeah.

06:35:28.360 Yeah, I think if she was fully

06:35:29.900 transitioned, it would be

06:35:31.380 considered straight.

06:35:32.380 Fully transitioned, okay.

06:35:35.000 It's straight.

06:35:36.540 Straight?

06:35:37.540 I really don't care.

06:35:39.080 It's not my business, so...

06:35:40.580 But I do think that if...

06:35:43.280 I can see the sides of people

06:35:45.080 where they're like, if a man

06:35:46.240 were to transition into a woman,

06:35:47.760 that it would still be

06:35:48.620 considered gay because going

06:35:49.740 back to what Andrew had said

06:35:51.740 of it's your sex, it's your

06:35:53.760 underlying sex from the

06:35:54.940 beginning, but I just stay out

06:35:56.000 of that.

06:35:56.480 It's not my business.

06:35:57.140 Do what you want.

06:35:58.780 Yeah.

06:35:59.200 It would be gay.

06:36:00.960 Yeah, I think so, too.

06:36:01.960 You can never, like, 100%

06:36:03.480 change your gender.

06:36:05.900 Yeah, I agree with her.

06:36:07.920 I have a story on this topic.

06:36:11.760 So, in my early 20s, I was

06:36:13.980 dating a guy who was having a

06:36:17.120 bit of a problem with

06:36:18.240 identifying his sexuality, I

06:36:20.480 suppose.

06:36:21.060 So, he...

06:36:22.080 I found messages in his phone

06:36:24.040 where he was telling his

06:36:25.960 friend that he was dating me

06:36:27.160 and I'm very nice, but

06:36:28.560 ultimately he thought that he

06:36:29.880 would end up with a man.

06:36:32.580 So, gay.

06:36:34.780 But in the closet still.

06:36:36.920 And I remember when we broke

06:36:38.760 up, I was venting to a friend

06:36:41.580 of a friend who was transgender.

06:36:43.720 Um, and so this was male to

06:36:46.320 female.

06:36:47.200 And they were like, oh, I'm

06:36:50.620 the perfect person for him

06:36:51.860 because he isn't quite ready

06:36:54.240 to come out of the closet and

06:36:55.660 I present as female.

06:36:57.220 And so, like, he should just

06:36:59.860 message me.

06:37:00.800 And first of all, like, if

06:37:02.320 you're going to go male to

06:37:04.160 female, you need to understand

06:37:05.580 girl code in that.

06:37:06.980 And it totally broke girl

06:37:08.240 code.

06:37:09.240 You just don't do that to a

06:37:11.720 girl.

06:37:13.140 Right?

06:37:13.540 Like, I'm, like, venting about

06:37:14.820 this person who I just broke

06:37:15.960 up with.

06:37:16.640 So, um, anyways, with that

06:37:18.360 context and that fun story,

06:37:19.780 I would, um, say that I

06:37:21.720 believe if a male is dating

06:37:23.600 somebody who transitioned male

06:37:25.580 to female, I, I would, I

06:37:27.620 would say that's, it's still a

06:37:28.620 gay relationship.

06:37:33.480 Did they end up together?

06:37:36.600 Yeah, did they end up

06:37:37.380 together?

06:37:38.080 He, oh gosh.

06:37:39.560 No, they, they, those two did

06:37:42.880 not end up together.

06:37:44.280 Oh.

06:37:45.480 Unfortunately.

06:37:46.300 Would have been perfect.

06:37:48.860 So you were dating a gay guy in

06:37:50.380 college, what are you saying?

06:37:52.060 I had no clue at the time.

06:37:55.020 That's crazy.

06:37:55.460 I, I landed myself a guy who was

06:37:58.500 in the closet and he used me as

06:38:00.400 his little trophy to convince the

06:38:02.660 world that he was straight.

06:38:03.820 Yeah.

06:38:04.260 Aw.

06:38:06.200 Was it hard or hard for, pretty

06:38:07.660 easy for you to move on when you

06:38:08.880 kind of found that out?

06:38:09.880 Oh gosh.

06:38:10.800 So I was 21.

06:38:11.820 Um, man, it did wonders on my

06:38:16.460 self-esteem because as a 21 year

06:38:18.460 old, you're not mature enough to

06:38:20.740 realize that it's nothing about

06:38:22.140 you.

06:38:22.520 Right.

06:38:22.900 So I was like, am I the reason why

06:38:25.340 he doesn't want women?

06:38:26.320 You thought he turned it gay?

06:38:27.560 Yeah.

06:38:28.120 Like that was my first thought.

06:38:31.820 Um, so it was really hard for me to

06:38:33.980 deal with back then.

06:38:35.240 Um, but I look back and I'm like,

06:38:36.980 that has nothing to do with me at

06:38:38.240 all.

06:38:39.520 Are you sure that's not cope?

06:38:41.820 Well, maybe I can try to walk

06:38:47.280 through the logic here a little bit

06:38:48.800 on this whole thing.

06:38:49.620 So, um, I'll keep it pretty simple

06:38:52.100 and short.

06:38:54.280 Um, so, uh, is straight short form

06:38:58.820 slang for what?

06:39:06.060 Oh, you mean like what is it

06:39:07.560 shortened for?

06:39:09.300 Like, like a nickname?

06:39:10.460 Like heterosexual.

06:39:12.180 Okay.

06:39:12.600 So does homosexual mean same

06:39:14.480 sex?

06:39:15.300 Yes.

06:39:15.520 Yes.

06:39:16.440 Okay.

06:39:16.820 Homo means same.

06:39:17.760 Hetero.

06:39:18.440 Hetero means straight.

06:39:19.400 It would be heterosexual.

06:39:20.420 Right.

06:39:20.720 But does homosexual mean same

06:39:22.280 sex?

06:39:23.520 Yes.

06:39:23.920 And straight is short form slang

06:39:25.580 for heterosexual.

06:39:26.800 Yes.

06:39:27.680 Okay.

06:39:27.920 So when we say homosexual, we mean,

06:39:29.360 we mean same sex relationship.

06:39:32.200 Yeah.

06:39:32.640 Okay.

06:39:34.040 And you would agree that, um, these

06:39:37.340 people have not changed their sex?

06:39:39.220 Like transgender people don't change

06:39:41.200 their sex?

06:39:44.820 I disagree.

06:39:46.200 I, I think they can change their sex.

06:39:49.080 I mean, well, that's just a fund,

06:39:50.480 fundamental misunderstanding of, uh, sex.

06:39:54.320 You can't change sex.

06:39:55.100 You can change your gender.

06:39:56.680 Right.

06:39:57.000 I'll just grant that you can change

06:39:59.100 your gender, I guess.

06:40:01.900 Well, I, I'm curious, um, I, I actually

06:40:05.060 would like to hear, um, you think, if

06:40:07.860 you think that, that people can change

06:40:09.200 their sex, what, what do you mean by

06:40:11.380 that?

06:40:12.540 Like you can, if you're transitioning

06:40:16.900 from female to male, you can, you

06:40:21.680 know, get your, you can get your, you

06:40:24.680 know, organs removed and you can get

06:40:27.120 built, you know, a penis.

06:40:29.780 So I feel like in a way you can kind

06:40:32.080 of change your sex.

06:40:33.960 If you, well, let, let me just make

06:40:36.820 sure that if I test this real quick,

06:40:39.240 that this is true.

06:40:42.260 Let us assume for a second, a man fell

06:40:44.920 into a vat of acid and it burned off

06:40:48.520 his, um, you know, his junk and it

06:40:52.500 burned all of that completely off.

06:40:54.680 Is he still a man?

06:40:58.560 Yeah.

06:40:59.760 Yes.

06:41:00.160 And aren't there grafts that can be

06:41:02.160 done?

06:41:02.500 I'm not talking about like grafting a

06:41:03.820 whole.

06:41:04.200 Let's just say that they never are done

06:41:05.640 though.

06:41:05.920 On there, but like.

06:41:07.260 Yeah.

06:41:07.380 But let's just assume that they never

06:41:08.560 are.

06:41:09.120 Is he still a man?

06:41:10.540 Yes.

06:41:11.380 But I don't understand then if he's

06:41:13.780 still a man, how reconstructing anything

06:41:16.340 in that region would not make him a man

06:41:19.000 anymore.

06:41:19.500 That, that I don't understand.

06:41:20.920 Yeah.

06:41:21.080 But transgender people take like

06:41:22.580 hormones, like the opposite hormones

06:41:24.360 that they don't have.

06:41:25.360 So it does more than just.

06:41:27.500 They do have.

06:41:28.360 Women have, women have estrogen and

06:41:30.560 women have testosterone and men have

06:41:33.320 estrogen and they have testosterone.

06:41:34.800 So what they do is they just quantify

06:41:36.920 the hormone.

06:41:38.000 This is, but this is just, all that this

06:41:40.100 does is change external appearances.

06:41:41.760 It doesn't actually change your sex.

06:41:45.280 Right?

06:41:45.860 If I might jump in here.

06:41:47.020 So we can assume for a second, for

06:41:48.680 instance, that men who have different

06:41:50.980 various medical conditions can up the

06:41:53.020 estrogen in their body and they can

06:41:54.420 grow boobs, literally.

06:41:57.020 And if they can do that, you still would

06:41:58.820 not say that they were not men.

06:42:00.540 Right?

06:42:02.940 Right?

06:42:04.140 Yeah.

06:42:04.540 I agree with that, but I think that you

06:42:06.500 should still be like kind to the people

06:42:08.960 who want to transition and call them what

06:42:11.340 they want to be called.

06:42:13.020 Sure.

06:42:13.560 And I'm not even going to dispute that

06:42:15.560 you believe that.

06:42:16.800 All I'm asking is that if they're still

06:42:18.700 the same sex or not.

06:42:20.460 Yeah, they are.

06:42:21.640 Yeah.

06:42:25.040 But I think it's a mental, maybe not

06:42:27.700 disorder, but like that you were mentally

06:42:29.420 feel like you were born in the wrong

06:42:31.120 body.

06:42:31.480 So it still like helps mentally if you

06:42:35.380 just call them by their preferred

06:42:37.820 gender pronouns.

06:42:40.740 But do you think that there's something

06:42:42.380 mentally going on if they believe that

06:42:44.880 they were born in the wrong body?

06:42:47.380 You mean like from a trauma or?

06:42:50.040 Like, you mentioned mental.

06:42:52.600 So if somebody believes that they are

06:42:54.820 a different gender than what they were

06:42:56.220 born as, do you think that perhaps

06:42:58.220 something is mentally off?

06:43:00.900 I think it's like a disorder.

06:43:02.520 Mm-hmm.

06:43:03.780 Yeah.

06:43:04.840 So if we're claiming that to be a

06:43:08.200 disorder, what happens if there's, you

06:43:10.120 know, the classic argument of an

06:43:12.220 anorexic person could, has a mental

06:43:14.680 disorder and they believe that they need

06:43:16.600 to go get liposuction?

06:43:18.060 Should we affirm that person and allow

06:43:20.060 them to go get that surgery?

06:43:22.280 But there, I think like there are, the

06:43:27.340 anorexic people, they have a chance to

06:43:30.060 heal or like get not anorexic anymore.

06:43:33.740 But, well, if they go, it's not like, I

06:43:37.100 think like every 10th person dies from

06:43:38.780 it, I think I've read a study.

06:43:40.200 But there are plenty of people who have

06:43:42.660 been underweight and went to therapy and

06:43:45.620 it's a lot of time, of course, but they

06:43:47.920 have healed from it.

06:43:48.860 But their therapy is not affirming the

06:43:51.480 disorder.

06:43:52.840 No, right.

06:43:53.580 But because it's something you can heal

06:43:56.660 from, but trans, to be trans, you can't

06:43:59.200 heal from it.

06:43:59.760 So like, I don't think there's like

06:44:01.620 worse trying it.

06:44:02.900 You can't change your belief of what you,

06:44:07.820 if it's like a disorder, disorder, I

06:44:09.540 don't think so.

06:44:11.380 Because I think anorexic is more like

06:44:13.220 you being sick and I feel like a mental

06:44:15.700 disorder is something else to me.

06:44:17.400 Yeah, a mental disorder is like

06:44:18.720 depression.

06:44:19.740 I mean, like anorexia can definitely

06:44:21.260 start mentally, but I don't, I think

06:44:24.880 that's definitely more about it.

06:44:25.920 Is it anorexia, a mental disorder?

06:44:30.060 Yeah.

06:44:30.620 So, I mean, just going back to your thing

06:44:32.240 about the hormones and stuff, you said

06:44:35.340 that they're on like hormones.

06:44:37.400 Hormone replacement.

06:44:38.520 Yeah.

06:44:38.840 So, I mean, but do you think the

06:44:39.960 differential between men and women comes

06:44:43.460 down to solely the endocrine system?

06:44:47.400 That's a hard question.

06:44:51.520 Can someone else answer that?

06:44:56.020 Well, that, the endocrine system like

06:44:57.840 regulates hormones and stuff.

06:44:59.020 So I'm just trying to understand.

06:45:00.220 Okay.

06:45:00.520 You said, well, they're on hormones, but

06:45:02.100 it's not clear to me if the endocrine

06:45:04.160 system is the sole differential between

06:45:05.900 men and women.

06:45:06.460 No.

06:45:08.680 And like, again, I don't think they can

06:45:10.740 ever change their gender completely or

06:45:13.500 sex or whatever you want to call it.

06:45:16.080 I just think that it's a good indicator

06:45:18.980 that if you take hormones and do the

06:45:21.820 operations and stuff that you are

06:45:24.880 legit trans because there are some people

06:45:27.180 who just like grow their hair maybe and

06:45:29.660 don't really make an effort to appear

06:45:31.500 trans and I don't think those people

06:45:34.020 should be qualified as trans.

06:45:39.200 Well, I guess going back to what I was

06:45:40.660 trying to say, when it comes to this,

06:45:44.420 I think I was asking if you guys would

06:45:46.340 agree that transgender people have not

06:45:48.460 changed their sex.

06:45:49.900 I think it was only you who had some

06:45:51.500 disagreements there.

06:45:54.080 You're on the fence, too.

06:45:55.280 But I suppose you could argue that they

06:45:59.040 changed their gender, but I don't think

06:46:00.520 you could ever argue that they changed

06:46:01.840 their sex.

06:46:03.240 So, I mean, if that's the case, then

06:46:05.140 wouldn't they be in a homosexual

06:46:07.480 relationship if it's a male and a male

06:46:10.280 who are dating, regardless of their

06:46:12.020 gender expression?

06:46:17.880 I mean, oh, sorry.

06:46:20.080 You guys said it was straight.

06:46:21.680 I'm providing counter arguments.

06:46:25.320 Yeah, you're saying if you didn't...

06:46:27.340 Wait, okay, say that again.

06:46:28.460 Sorry.

06:46:28.700 I guess I think that if, technically

06:46:32.840 speaking, yeah, you'd be correct.

06:46:34.860 Like, it would be termed a gay

06:46:37.940 relationship, but I think society has

06:46:42.300 changed the meaning a lot, and that

06:46:44.540 goes for many things.

06:46:46.040 Society's changed the meaning of sex?

06:46:48.260 Society's changed the meaning of, like,

06:46:50.100 But, I mean, sexual preference has

06:46:53.900 always been intended as referring to

06:46:55.960 what sex you prefer.

06:47:00.020 Yeah, but I think, from what I've seen,

06:47:04.400 society ties it up more with gender

06:47:06.020 than sex now.

06:47:07.360 Even though, technically speaking,

06:47:09.380 it has to do with sex.

06:47:11.160 In order to create a baby, does it

06:47:14.500 require a male and a female?

06:47:15.580 No.

06:47:21.460 In order to create a baby, does it

06:47:22.960 require a male and a female?

06:47:23.920 Yes, yes.

06:47:25.340 Yes, okay.

06:47:26.560 So, I assume that you believe that two

06:47:28.680 transgender people can have babies,

06:47:30.260 right?

06:47:30.980 Mm-hmm.

06:47:32.580 And that they would still be male and

06:47:34.520 female, right?

06:47:38.040 So, wouldn't the man, in a

06:47:39.860 transgender relationship, what is

06:47:41.360 considered the man, be the carrier

06:47:43.200 then of the baby?

06:47:45.600 I have seen that before, yes.

06:47:47.660 Yeah, so if you've seen that before,

06:47:49.460 then what we've established here is

06:47:50.980 that their sex hasn't actually

06:47:52.180 changed because only women can

06:47:54.000 produce babies.

06:47:55.160 Yeah.

06:47:55.860 Thank you.

06:47:58.660 Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

06:48:01.020 Yeah, no, and that was kind of my

06:48:02.520 opinion.

06:48:03.020 That's more why I was on the fence.

06:48:04.800 All right, yeah, yeah, we've got to

06:48:06.500 move off of that.

06:48:07.320 But, what were you saying?

06:48:08.560 I'm sorry.

06:48:10.420 Oh, me?

06:48:11.500 Yeah.

06:48:11.960 Oh, sorry, I thought you said we

06:48:13.040 were moving off of that.

06:48:14.040 I was like, okay, my bad.

06:48:14.820 I was talking to the gal in pink.

06:48:16.300 I'm sorry, I came late, so I didn't

06:48:17.500 catch all your names.

06:48:18.960 Go ahead.

06:48:19.780 Go ahead.

06:48:21.760 But the best, I don't know, a way I

06:48:27.140 heard it explained once was, it was

06:48:30.420 this trans woman talking about how

06:48:33.820 the issue or what she was addressing

06:48:40.880 was how trans women want to be

06:48:43.540 addressed as women and, like, cut the

06:48:46.980 trans portion out or whatever.

06:48:50.020 And that was her whole portion is

06:48:51.700 you're not a woman, though.

06:48:53.920 You're not a natural woman.

06:48:55.300 Like, as much as you want to be, you

06:48:58.100 just aren't.

06:48:58.800 You're not going to be.

06:49:00.960 And you are imitating women like

06:49:04.900 your mother, like your aunties, like

06:49:06.720 your sisters that you see that you

06:49:08.380 want to be exactly like.

06:49:09.880 And I don't think there's anything

06:49:11.400 wrong with that.

06:49:12.020 I think that's totally fine to each

06:49:13.300 their own.

06:49:13.920 But that was just, her point was,

06:49:17.700 you're not a woman.

06:49:19.900 You're a trans woman.

06:49:21.720 You don't have all the parts.

06:49:23.140 You can't do everything.

06:49:24.540 How do you feel about the videos of

06:49:27.960 trans male to female who make videos

06:49:31.740 pretending to have period cramps?

06:49:34.660 Oh, okay, because I actually came

06:49:36.240 across one thing on my TikTok the other

06:49:38.160 day where there was, like, this trans

06:49:40.040 woman who was male to female talking

06:49:43.000 about how she had a...

06:49:45.700 Cramping.

06:49:47.200 No, no, like, a miscarriage.

06:49:50.100 And I was just like, what?

06:49:52.200 How delusional do you have to be?

06:49:54.540 Andrew, do you have more on this?

06:49:56.280 Do you have more on this, or...?

06:49:58.280 Yeah, well, I mean, I can see.

06:50:00.620 We'll wrap it pretty quick.

06:50:02.780 But I guess my ultimate question is

06:50:05.400 that if the sex can't change, if, in

06:50:08.520 other words, it requires a woman to

06:50:09.680 have a baby, or only a trans man can

06:50:12.860 have a baby, then we have not actually

06:50:14.800 created a distinct category here.

06:50:16.900 We're still in the same category, right?

06:50:19.480 This is the same...

06:50:20.540 We have not taken a separate

06:50:24.220 ontological approach here.

06:50:25.880 This is still in the same exact category.

06:50:29.260 If only one sex can have a baby,

06:50:31.980 and whatever configuration that you make

06:50:34.400 around that sex is still the only sex

06:50:36.320 that can have the baby, then whatever

06:50:37.780 you're making around it is in some type

06:50:40.800 of distinct non-category, wouldn't it be?

06:50:44.880 So then are we going to put women

06:50:46.360 who are completely infertile in that

06:50:47.840 same category, because they can't have a baby?

06:50:49.800 What about men who are completely infertile?

06:50:51.100 But only women have the capacity

06:50:52.660 to have babies.

06:50:55.040 Then men have zero capacity

06:50:57.300 to have babies, right?

06:50:58.920 That's where we come up with a category.

06:51:00.780 Not because all women can,

06:51:03.000 but because only women can.

06:51:05.960 That's how we can make the distinction

06:51:07.460 between womb, man, woman, and man, right?

06:51:12.480 So all women can't have babies, we agree,

06:51:15.820 but only women can have babies.

06:51:17.900 Do we agree with that, too?

06:51:19.340 Mm-hmm.

06:51:20.140 So then, therefore,

06:51:21.400 only trans men can have babies, right?

06:51:25.320 Well, no.

06:51:26.180 I think we all just came to the consensus

06:51:28.240 that we disagree with that.

06:51:30.720 Trans men can't...

06:51:32.380 Oh.

06:51:32.460 Well, wouldn't a trans...

06:51:33.520 Yeah, trans man, right?

06:51:37.220 Okay, no.

06:51:38.180 Trans women couldn't have babies, could they?

06:51:40.040 Yeah, women and male, yes.

06:51:42.740 Yeah, so only trans men can have babies,

06:51:45.240 but we established that the only biological sex

06:51:47.560 that can have babies are women, right?

06:51:49.720 Women, that's it.

06:51:51.160 So then we've created no new category.

06:51:53.020 We're still just talking about women.

06:51:57.540 Well, a woman and then a woman

06:51:59.320 with a busted hormone situation, but yes.

06:52:03.340 I would imagine that that baby

06:52:06.500 being carried by a trans person would...

06:52:09.260 All right, I'm going to let some chats come through.

06:52:11.160 Sorry, I had to hold them for a sec, guys.

06:52:12.580 I don't even think it's, like, physically possible.

06:52:15.000 Like, what?

06:52:18.820 What the fuck?

06:52:19.820 Sorry, I got to skip that shit.

06:52:20.980 What the fuck?

06:52:21.620 John's underscore myth donated $30.

06:52:25.560 It's definitely gay.

06:52:27.500 Maximus Decimus Meridius.

06:52:30.040 Okay.

06:52:30.840 Are you not entertained?

06:52:36.040 All right, thank you, man.

06:52:37.340 200 donated $30.

06:52:39.860 Women smell like shit in the gym

06:52:41.640 and if she lies about her cisgender,

06:52:43.720 it's hiding thing things and a piece of shit move.

06:52:47.100 Men know the difference.

06:52:48.580 You have to be 100% open.

06:52:50.760 Ulysses the Pagan donated $30.

06:52:55.460 Should a transgender person reveal that

06:52:57.500 to someone they're dating if they pass?

06:52:59.940 In my opinion, it's a lack of informed consent.

06:53:03.340 No consent is essay in guise of self-protection.

06:53:08.080 Yeah, I would say yeah.

06:53:09.480 You should 100% disclose it.

06:53:12.260 All right.

06:53:14.920 I'm going to let some more come through.

06:53:16.480 Lol Paladins donated $30.

06:53:18.680 Thank you, Lol Paladins.

06:53:19.200 Can we get some more examples of girl code?

06:53:22.680 What is it?

06:53:23.400 Girl code.

06:53:23.940 That's your best friend's ex.

06:53:26.140 What is girl code?

06:53:26.660 Yeah, number one.

06:53:27.220 Girl code.

06:53:27.460 Number one, you don't link up with your girl's ex-boyfriend.

06:53:32.900 Hmm.

06:53:33.380 That's girl code.

06:53:35.040 David Tuzetziak donated $31.

06:53:38.160 Steam labia matters has been a pain in the app.

06:53:41.240 Had great day at the track Sunday.

06:53:42.960 What is your favorite horse name?

06:53:45.980 Bronco or Seabiscuit?

06:53:47.720 Seabiscuit.

06:53:48.140 Roast folks?

06:53:49.540 Or is this sensitive time?

06:53:53.320 Epirus 29 donated $200.

06:53:56.240 Hey, thank you, man.

06:53:56.620 Appreciate it.

06:53:56.820 Everything falls front of the girl's standpoint end of line.

06:54:00.620 They are the same sex.

06:54:02.160 There is a mental health issue beyond that.

06:54:04.320 A mental disorder shouldn't be used to disate a hormone controller.

06:54:09.340 All right.

06:54:09.580 Epirus, thank you for the TTS.

06:54:11.000 David, do Bronco.

06:54:13.760 Do Bronco, David.

06:54:15.520 Appreciate it, man.

06:54:18.480 By the way, some of you are asking questions.

06:54:21.040 We can only do one question.

06:54:23.200 We might not even be able to do all questions.

06:54:25.100 Brian and Andrew say one positive thing you have been educated on by a woman in your life.

06:54:30.540 Define what being a high-value man is contingent on.

06:54:34.320 Are men entitled to a higher baseline of opportunity?

06:54:38.080 That's three questions.

06:54:38.980 We can only do one.

06:54:42.660 One positive thing you have been educated on by a woman in your life.

06:54:47.020 Define what being a high-value man is contingent on.

06:54:49.880 Andrew, you go first.

06:54:50.840 Go ahead.

06:54:51.460 You pick just one of those.

06:54:54.820 My mom taught me that not all disco music sucks.

06:55:01.200 I have the same exact answer as you, Andrew.

06:55:03.240 Appreciate it.

06:55:03.900 That's good.

06:55:04.320 Thank you, Oscar.

06:55:07.820 Walking Roscoe underscore on underscore YouTube donated $77.70.

06:55:14.000 Statistically speaking, three of you ladies will be scorned and alone.

06:55:18.080 When that occurs, will you be affirmed a crazy cat lady or psycho tiny purse doc broad?

06:55:24.440 P.S.

06:55:24.880 Name the three branches of U.S. government.

06:55:27.480 Legislative, judicial, executive.

06:55:31.920 Legislative, judicial, executive.

06:55:33.900 Boom.

06:55:34.400 Boom.

06:55:38.520 Oh, good show tonight, boys.

06:55:40.760 Going to simp a little bit.

06:55:41.920 Always a pleasure to encounter women like Miss Nevada in the world.

06:55:45.040 Need more like her in this country.

06:55:46.520 Super based.

06:55:47.160 Get your ass to the gym, Brian.

06:55:49.120 Working on it, boys.

06:55:50.060 Working on it.

06:55:50.560 Oh, my gosh.

06:55:51.680 Random bird ad for donated $30.00 back to the public approach when a man is with his child.

06:55:58.660 Full-time dad.

06:56:00.000 What if it's the grocery store and he just finds you beautiful?

06:56:04.680 Still icky?

06:56:05.640 This could be a rare opportunity for him.

06:56:09.800 I don't think it's icky.

06:56:10.980 No.

06:56:12.260 No, I don't think it's icky.

06:56:13.880 I mean, no.

06:56:16.780 I think if you're just coming up to someone and being like, oh, hey, can I get your phone number?

06:56:20.640 I think you're really attractive.

06:56:22.020 And then you just walk off and continue about your day.

06:56:24.480 Yeah.

06:56:25.200 I mean, if you sit there and talk to them for however long with your child, I think so.

06:56:30.380 I think it should just be a very brief interaction if your child has to be present.

06:56:34.200 Yeah.

06:56:34.440 I was going to say, that's weird that your kids are.

06:56:35.500 Because I think early on, when there's a child involved.

06:56:37.840 MRT underscore hoodie donated $30.00.

06:56:40.800 Brian, please explain to the panel how to properly jumpstart a vehicle step-by-step with each cable.

06:56:47.180 Yeah, Brian.

06:56:48.700 Well, see, what I just do is, first off, I have one of those pre-charged thingies in the car that you just,

06:56:58.780 there's the red and the black.

06:57:01.940 The black.

06:57:02.780 Oh, God.

06:57:03.820 You put it on the corresponding thingies.

06:57:06.060 Which one's the corresponding thingies?

06:57:07.940 Where are the thingies?

06:57:09.440 What are the thingies?

06:57:10.760 You know, the positive and the negative.

06:57:13.000 Next to the blinker fluid.

06:57:13.880 You put one on that one.

06:57:15.040 There you go.

06:57:15.520 There's instructions on the jump there thingy.

06:57:18.040 I can figure it out, though.

06:57:19.560 I got this easy, boys.

06:57:22.000 I've done it.

06:57:22.840 Nick saw me jumpstart a car.

06:57:24.320 I jumpstarted a...

06:57:25.320 What voltage is your battery?

06:57:27.320 Bro, I don't know that shit.

06:57:29.240 What the fuck?

06:57:30.520 You don't know what voltage your battery is?

06:57:34.220 No?

06:57:35.580 Really?

06:57:37.240 No?

06:57:38.360 I feel like this is a trick question.

06:57:41.100 No, it's not a trick question.

06:57:43.820 No, I don't know what the voltage...

06:57:44.840 I don't know what the voltage is.

06:57:45.860 What are you trying to do, Andrew?

06:57:46.720 What are you trying to do, bro?

06:57:48.460 Well, I mean, it says...

06:57:49.660 It's like usually in big, bold letters right on the battery.

06:57:53.080 You never caught how many volts it was.

06:57:55.100 I've not committed it to my memory what the voltage is.

06:58:00.020 All right.

06:58:00.660 What's the voltage on your car, Andrew?

06:58:04.320 On all cars, you mean?

06:58:06.060 12 volts?

06:58:08.160 Hmm?

06:58:09.560 What is it?

06:58:10.400 12 volts.

06:58:11.480 12 volts?

06:58:12.620 Mm-hmm.

06:58:13.600 Okay.

06:58:14.780 All vehicles, at least I'm aware of.

06:58:18.820 12 volts on cars, yeah.

06:58:20.440 Yeah, it's good.

06:58:21.000 Yeah, and so if you want to jump the car, you would take off your battery covers, and

06:58:26.260 you would put your black and your negative first, and then you'd put the negative on

06:58:30.160 the other side, and then you would connect your box.

06:58:31.500 Post donated $30.

06:58:33.000 For those who are feminists but believe in trans, how do you reconcile fighting for

06:58:37.320 women's rights but allow men to be women and can't say what a woman is?

06:58:40.680 Oh.

06:58:45.120 Warren.

06:58:46.080 Dyer, letter 0430, donated $30.

06:58:49.380 Given that spanking is considered child abuse, that women are far more likely to engage in

06:58:54.260 this abuse against children than men, would the pro-bear panellists like to reconsider

06:58:58.400 their bias against men?

06:59:00.880 Max donated $30.

06:59:03.160 If the patriarchy doesn't exist statistically by definition, why is Congress?

06:59:07.140 Is that, that's it?

06:59:09.860 Why is Congress?

06:59:12.220 Considered if you need to ask, what is Congress?

06:59:15.800 There's more, so basically this is just the, this is just the argument that, you know, men

06:59:23.140 occupy, a very small percentage of men occupy these sort of powerful positions, C-suite,

06:59:28.620 executives, CEOs, et cetera.

06:59:31.260 But I mean, I'll just explain it away, in a way I like to, I mean, there's a bunch of reasons,

06:59:36.140 but if 50% of women are inclined to date men who have, or value deeply, to relate it back

06:59:46.060 to dating, if women want men to pay for dates, if they want them to be providers, this creates

06:59:51.520 enough of a mating pressure to make men want to achieve more than women.

06:59:57.360 So I'll just blame women.

07:00:00.900 It's women's fault.

07:00:02.640 Because you desire men to be providers, because you desire men to pay for dates, because you're

07:00:08.100 attracted to high status men, because you're attracted to powerful men, men will pursue

07:00:13.160 these things in an effort to get the most women, the highest quality women, in order to secure

07:00:20.280 a mate.

07:00:20.580 There's other reasons why men want power, but that's a very strong motivating factor.

07:00:26.660 So it's women's fault.

07:00:29.060 I'd say that's fair, but I'd also argue that men are actually better in those positions of

07:00:33.820 power.

07:00:34.600 Well, I'm not making that argument.

07:00:36.340 I'm just saying that...

07:00:37.700 I'm adding to yours.

07:00:38.780 If there's enough, like there's this, this also is related to the wage gap stuff.

07:00:44.100 Why is it that men, and which is actually debunked, but if I just grant that there is a wage gap,

07:00:49.700 why is it that men earn more money than women?

07:00:53.200 Well, if 50, 60% of women want men to be providers and won't date a broke man, no scrubs, TLC, no

07:01:01.560 scrubs, bills, bills, bills, what have you done, blah, blah, all this stuff, if there's enough

07:01:06.920 of a mating pressure from coming from women directed towards men, wouldn't that just explain

07:01:12.780 away the wage gap?

07:01:14.780 Right.

07:01:15.180 And if there's no corresponding pressure on women to be providers and to make money, wouldn't

07:01:20.500 that just explain away all this shit and why you find men in positions of power?

07:01:25.020 Because women desire men in positions of power.

07:01:28.080 You can't really say the same thing about men.

07:01:30.440 It's not really an attraction trigger.

07:01:35.580 Does anybody disagree?

07:01:36.900 You just all agree or you just want to be silent?

07:01:38.700 I feel like not all women desire men in power.

07:01:41.880 Sure, that's fine.

07:01:44.280 But do you think all women desire a man who can provide for them?

07:01:48.700 I don't.

07:01:50.060 You don't desire men at all.

07:01:52.160 Well, right.

07:01:52.900 But if we're speaking generally, if even 50% of women say the guy has to pay for the

07:01:59.560 first aid, he has to be a provider, he has to be able to hold down the household, and

07:02:04.480 then there's like 1% of men who can say, I don't even think it's 1% of men who are prepared

07:02:11.720 to say, I want a woman to pay for first aids.

07:02:14.100 I want a woman to be a provider.

07:02:15.840 I want a woman to, I want the woman to be the sole breadwinner.

07:02:18.760 And I want to stay at home.

07:02:19.940 First off, those men are going to struggle far more in the dating marketplace than women

07:02:24.520 who have the exact same standard that they do for men.

07:02:28.320 So, I mean, it's just, it's honestly, there's plenty of factors, but it can just really just

07:02:33.400 be explained away by women's own preferences.

07:02:36.160 And actually men have a, um, men want women more than men want women more than women want

07:02:45.060 men, like men have a higher sex drive.

07:02:48.800 Men are much more motivated by, uh, being able to secure courtship or not in secure, uh,

07:02:56.320 romantic partner or whatever.

07:03:00.440 Okay.

07:03:03.020 Okay.

07:03:03.480 I'll just ask you guys a question.

07:03:04.720 Do you guys think men care about your career?

07:03:07.720 No, no, no, no.

07:03:10.220 Yeah.

07:03:10.720 Doctor, you want to be a doctor, don't you?

07:03:12.640 Don't you want to be a doctor?

07:03:13.520 Do you think, huh?

07:03:15.060 I don't know.

07:03:15.820 I think it depends.

07:03:16.360 You don't know?

07:03:16.900 Yeah, maybe it depends.

07:03:17.640 You guys aren't offended.

07:03:18.780 You guys are going to sit here and not be offended that I just said men probably don't really

07:03:23.860 care in terms of what they find attractive.

07:03:28.140 In terms of what they find attractive, you won't be more attractive.

07:03:32.500 You won't be more attractive to a man if you have various academic achievements, you get

07:03:37.620 your bachelor's degree, master's degree, PhD.

07:03:40.880 You won't be more attractive to a man because you have a high status or high paying job.

07:03:45.060 It's really not important to men.

07:03:48.060 You guys have no objections to this at all?

07:03:49.920 As women in college, look at you sitting there with your crossed arms.

07:03:55.180 Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

07:03:57.760 The men I've dated have looked for those, so I do disagree, but it's also preference.

07:04:04.000 I don't know.

07:04:04.440 The men you've dated have looked for what?

07:04:07.120 Education.

07:04:07.720 High levels of education.

07:04:09.360 Good careers.

07:04:09.980 You haven't graduated from university.

07:04:13.200 You haven't achieved the high level of...

07:04:15.420 I mean, you're in college.

07:04:16.060 I'm saying that's what they look for.

07:04:17.240 What's that?

07:04:17.700 In our future.

07:04:19.740 Wait, didn't you say that you're still a virgin and not by choice?

07:04:25.480 Yes.

07:04:26.480 Wait, what?

07:04:27.260 Wait, not by choice?

07:04:28.640 Not by choice?

07:04:30.260 No, she's voluntarily celibate.

07:04:33.080 By choice.

07:04:33.840 Or are you a felon?

07:04:34.640 No, I thought that you said that you weren't going to wait until marriage.

07:04:39.080 Yes, but I haven't met the right guy.

07:04:41.400 Yeah, right.

07:04:42.040 You haven't met the right guy.

07:04:43.400 You've only met guys who are interested in your education, right?

07:04:47.800 No.

07:04:48.160 And you haven't given it up to any of them, right?

07:04:50.260 I haven't done that.

07:04:50.600 So they haven't been the right guy?

07:04:54.300 No.

07:04:55.380 Yeah, so maybe try a construction worker.

07:04:57.760 I don't know.

07:04:58.940 Somebody's not too interested in the education.

07:05:01.400 So I used to believe that lie that men look for women who have a career or have education,

07:05:08.640 or at least the principle that I used to operate under is if I'm going to demand that of a man,

07:05:13.600 I should at least be able to deliver that, which is part of the reason why I got my degree

07:05:18.320 and then I started down my career.

07:05:20.500 And then my dating preference was always the man had to make as much money as myself or

07:05:25.300 higher, right?

07:05:26.660 And when you look at men, they really honestly don't care.

07:05:29.960 And it wasn't until I got with my fiance, and it offended me at first because I worked so

07:05:35.040 hard to get to where I was to making the amount of money that I was making.

07:05:39.100 And he made it abundantly clear, like, that does not matter at all.

07:05:42.820 So there's such a lie that's being fed to women.

07:05:45.760 And you don't need the degree to impress the guy.

07:05:50.380 You don't need the career.

07:05:52.200 I think a lot of women would be better off staying out of debt, not getting that degree,

07:05:58.440 and being honest.

07:05:59.860 And if they want to be traditional, find a traditional man and just skip the whole heartache

07:06:04.180 of going through college because I'm telling you, I wasted a lot of time and money.

07:06:08.900 And I just want to make one thing clear here.

07:06:10.860 I don't have any objections to women pursuing higher education.

07:06:15.760 If you want, totally great.

07:06:18.440 I think we should be, and I mean this in the most charitable way, we ought to be exploiting

07:06:28.040 women's intelligence and manpower, especially if they want to research things like cancer.

07:06:35.180 I think we should be throwing all our manpower, and I suppose woman power too, although manpower

07:06:41.400 encompasses woman power, into researching these things and trying to find cures for Alzheimer's

07:06:49.160 and cancer and et cetera.

07:06:50.700 And if women can assist in this endeavor, I think it's expedient, not expedient, it's good

07:06:56.660 to do so.

07:06:57.820 But when we're talking about dating, when we're talking about what men and women find attractive,

07:07:02.020 it's not clear to me, Andrew is laughing, he's like, nah, it's not clear to me if a man

07:07:09.500 will find you more attractive because you're a lawyer or a doctor.

07:07:15.220 I used to be afraid of being called a gold digger all the time.

07:07:19.740 That was my fear when I would pursue wealthy men, and I didn't want to be called a gold digger,

07:07:26.040 so I wanted to be able to say, well, I bring this to the table, so I'm not a gold digger.

07:07:30.480 That was my thought process as a 21-year-old.

07:07:33.520 It doesn't necessarily hurt in a relationship, but if a guy has a choice between an attractive,

07:07:43.080 pleasant, nice girl who works at Chick-fil-A who makes minimum wage and a 30-year-old female

07:07:50.460 attorney, he's picking the girl who works at Chick-fil-A.

07:07:56.920 Right.

07:07:59.400 Well, I know at least for me, I work at a little home daycare, and any time I tell a guy that

07:08:07.300 I work at a daycare, he's just like, oh, damn, those lucky kids.

07:08:11.060 What I wouldn't do to be one of your students.

07:08:13.640 What I would do if you were my teacher, and I'm just like, okay.

07:08:17.900 It's always just made into a fetishizing thing.

07:08:20.700 Wait, what?

07:08:21.240 Well, I don't think you should be offended.

07:08:22.640 I think that's a compliment.

07:08:23.640 I'm not offended.

07:08:24.460 It just seems that that's the only reason guys care is because they think it's hot that

07:08:29.400 I'm a little preschool teacher.

07:08:31.560 What?

07:08:31.960 They find it attractive that you're good at caring for children.

07:08:35.460 They've never said it that way, though.

07:08:37.900 Well, men are never going to say things the way that women want them to say it.

07:08:42.180 Except that now.

07:08:42.640 Okay, okay.

07:08:42.980 So hang on, hang on.

07:08:43.960 Hang on.

07:08:44.160 Let me see if I get this right, though.

07:08:45.600 No, you could just say, hey, it's really cool.

07:08:47.140 I want to know if you're full of it here.

07:08:48.600 You're good with kids.

07:08:49.500 Do they come off like it's fetishizing, or do they say, damn, those are lucky kids?

07:08:54.160 Yeah, I mean, some of them are just like, damn, damn.

07:08:55.740 That's not fetishizing to say that.

07:08:58.720 What they're doing is they're trying to give you a compliment and tell you that they think

07:09:02.120 that you're beautiful.

07:09:03.140 They're not trying to fetishize nothing.

07:09:05.460 And so what they do is they take an occupation that you're familiar with, and they make an

07:09:09.120 offhand comment like that because it's funny and it's witty, and they think that they

07:09:13.540 can in that way call you beautiful without it sounding sappy.

07:09:17.580 No, it's just immature.

07:09:19.000 Sorry, boys.

07:09:20.060 I think it's just immature.

07:09:22.760 You could just tell me that.

07:09:24.060 I think it's immature to compliment women at all because you're all just brats about

07:09:27.700 it and finding, you know, it's that fetish, it's a death, it's a death, it's just always

07:09:30.740 brat.

07:09:31.080 I wouldn't compliment any of them.

07:09:32.500 It's just always a bad idea.

07:09:34.700 Always a bad idea.

07:09:35.840 Just wouldn't do it.

07:09:36.860 That's totally okay.

07:09:38.880 That's not okay.

07:09:39.960 For underscore, the underscore patriarchy donated $30.

07:09:43.980 Ladies, Brian proved everyone needs random men in their life to help them on a daily basis,

07:09:49.540 not bears.

07:09:50.960 This is true.

07:09:51.460 All right.

07:09:51.840 Thank you for the patriarchy.

07:09:53.120 Appreciate it.

07:09:54.600 Like, how can a man even compliment you?

07:09:55.880 A model donated $30.

07:09:57.860 All men have a percentage of gay in them.

07:10:00.160 It's just a matter of how gay are gay.

07:10:02.800 Lol, all men are gay.

07:10:04.160 What percent of gay are you?

07:10:06.400 That's funny.

07:10:07.300 Okay.

07:10:07.740 Is it a spectrum now?

07:10:08.380 It's pretty.

07:10:09.240 I guess so.

07:10:11.240 200 FHIRIS 29 donated $69.

07:10:14.960 I'll save the three girls by Brian.

07:10:17.940 Okay.

07:10:18.440 Thank you.

07:10:19.340 Cool.

07:10:21.340 Sweet.

07:10:21.780 So, I'm just curious.

07:10:23.320 There's more coming through, just FYI.

07:10:25.020 Oh, okay.

07:10:25.800 I was just wondering, very quickly, what is the proper way for a man to compliment you?

07:10:31.240 For me, personally, I would just rather much them come up to me and say, hey, I think you're

07:10:36.140 really pretty.

07:10:36.600 Just something nice and plain and simple and not something that can be weirdly misconstrued.

07:10:42.660 That's the point.

07:10:43.220 So, no extra credit for being witty, for trying to figure out a way to compliment you while also

07:10:49.920 being kind of funny.

07:10:50.800 No extra credit for that.

07:10:52.180 No, I like that.

07:10:52.660 It's not really funny.

07:10:53.700 I don't appreciate being told back, oh, I wish you were my teacher.

07:10:58.960 I don't appreciate that.

07:11:00.500 It's not funny to me.

07:11:01.340 All right.

07:11:01.680 I think it just depends how you perceive it.

07:11:03.060 It's going to be miserable waiting for a man to compliment you the way you want to be

07:11:06.920 complimented.

07:11:07.040 Brian's lack of car knowledge lost all my respect.

07:11:10.540 Now due strictly to physical limitations, Big Red is the only one in the room I look up to.

07:11:18.300 Okay.

07:11:18.740 Robbie Heck Music donated $30.

07:11:21.840 John 3, 16, 16.

07:11:24.100 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in

07:11:28.480 him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

07:11:31.340 God bless.

07:11:32.240 Amen.

07:11:32.840 God bless you.

07:11:33.600 Mike Mafia donated $30.

07:11:39.840 Thank you, Mike.

07:11:40.660 Connect the battery terminals to the sleepy Asian girl in glasses.

07:11:44.420 Her BS stories about being bored of men and wasting their time is a joke.

07:11:48.920 Fake.

07:11:51.740 Okay.

07:11:52.380 David Terzechiak donated $31.

07:11:55.100 Thank you, bro.

07:11:55.660 Sent a pic of Bronco shirt.

07:11:57.140 To roast I can't, everyone was nice, and I hope Tom Brady runs for Veep and Andrew

07:12:02.380 quits smoking.

07:12:03.860 You're welcome, Rachel.

07:12:05.120 Andrew.

07:12:05.660 Bad Eat More.

07:12:07.160 Ryan, show me the Weight Watchers app.

07:12:10.360 Yo, David.

07:12:11.160 Good to see you in the chat, man.

07:12:11.980 Appreciate your patronage.

07:12:12.980 Thank you, man.

07:12:13.360 Appreciate it.

07:12:13.780 Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $30.

07:12:17.240 Makeup removal time.

07:12:19.760 Go on my Instagram.

07:12:20.760 It's there.

07:12:21.380 Sofa of all trades.

07:12:26.060 We have quite a few more coming through.

07:12:29.340 School, thank you for the Twitch sub.

07:12:32.280 Michigan Christian donated $30.

07:12:35.240 Oh, is she not here?

07:12:36.280 You are very beautiful.

07:12:37.760 Your views have been spot on, and I respect your work to focus on gold.

07:12:41.960 That's annoying.

07:12:42.620 I'm not far from MSU.

07:12:44.720 I'd love to meet you, even if it means waiting.

07:12:47.300 She's going to say no.

07:12:48.160 Any contact info slash socials?

07:12:50.220 She'll say no.

07:12:51.120 I'll re-trigger it.

07:12:51.860 Tricks donated $30.

07:12:54.240 Bow video.

07:12:54.820 All right.

07:12:55.160 Here, we'll do the bow video.

07:12:56.420 Go ahead.

07:12:56.720 Pull it up.

07:13:00.680 I want you to...

07:13:02.700 Boom!

07:13:03.640 Huge bow.

07:13:04.460 Love it.

07:13:05.160 Bow.

07:13:05.560 That's funny.

07:13:06.320 Huge.

07:13:07.280 I think women should, like your girlfriend or whatever, like even first date, I think a

07:13:11.460 girl should, like, hit a bow for you.

07:13:13.760 It shows respect.

07:13:16.380 And this is, like, me coming home after my, like, long podcast session.

07:13:21.380 She's got my beer ready.

07:13:23.080 She's going to stir my noodles.

07:13:25.560 Dinner's ready.

07:13:27.460 You know, not stirring it fast enough so she, you know, picks up the pace.

07:13:32.160 And then just, yeah, it's half set.

07:13:33.960 Watch as you eat.

07:13:34.620 One more time.

07:13:35.200 The bow, though.

07:13:35.780 The bow.

07:13:36.280 Boom!

07:13:37.420 Huge.

07:13:38.820 Huge.

07:13:39.300 Do you...

07:13:39.700 Would you guys bow for your...

07:13:40.920 I'm going to try that.

07:13:41.860 Would you guys bow going around the table?

07:13:43.380 Oh, man.

07:13:44.780 Would you bow for your partner?

07:13:45.940 Sure.

07:13:46.740 Yes.

07:13:47.760 I don't know.

07:13:48.340 Gary, yeah.

07:13:49.460 Yeah, you do it.

07:13:50.420 Maybe.

07:13:51.040 I don't know.

07:13:51.720 I don't know.

07:13:52.020 If he bows to me, then yeah.

07:13:53.620 No, he doesn't bow to you.

07:13:54.660 Then no.

07:13:55.180 No?

07:13:55.660 Wouldn't do it.

07:13:56.280 I don't know.

07:13:56.720 Has to go both ways.

07:13:57.940 Okay.

07:13:58.960 What about you?

07:13:59.820 I wouldn't be opposed to it, but I probably wouldn't do it every single time.

07:14:03.580 I would, but my husband told me no, so...

07:14:05.900 Oh, okay.

07:14:06.500 All right.

07:14:07.040 Yeah, if he'd ask me to.

07:14:08.800 No.

07:14:09.180 Morgan?

07:14:09.620 No.

07:14:10.420 Damn, Morgan, what the fuck?

07:14:12.160 Yes, Morgan.

07:14:13.200 I would.

07:14:14.080 You'd do it?

07:14:14.760 If he asked me to, yeah.

07:14:16.280 Okay.

07:14:16.720 All right, yeah, yeah.

07:14:17.080 Oh, no, never mind.

07:14:17.880 I just made it here.

07:14:18.560 I don't know.

07:14:18.980 Robert Pratt donated $30.

07:14:21.860 Question to the panel.

07:14:23.640 Women being the gatekeepers of sex and men the gatekeepers of marriage, who is the prize?

07:14:29.480 Just really quick, who's the prize?

07:14:31.060 Men or women?

07:14:32.100 Women.

07:14:33.680 Who's the prize?

07:14:35.300 Women.

07:14:37.620 I don't know.

07:14:42.660 Can we move this on, please?

07:14:44.520 Oh, sorry.

07:14:45.120 Yeah, I don't know.

07:14:45.840 I guess women.

07:14:47.420 Both.

07:14:48.540 Yeah, I'd say both.

07:14:49.540 I think men.

07:14:50.840 Both.

07:14:51.600 Both.

07:14:53.040 Women are the prize, but women should prize their men.

07:14:56.200 There you go.

07:14:58.120 Are there more attractive women or more attractive men?

07:15:01.040 Women.

07:15:01.400 Women.

07:15:01.520 Women.

07:15:01.980 Women.

07:15:03.360 We can present ourselves better.

07:15:05.460 How is the man not the prize, then?

07:15:07.540 You'd be lucky.

07:15:08.840 Because the man's value is not defined by his physical appearance.

07:15:12.660 Well, I mean, attractive in general.

07:15:17.280 So.

07:15:21.320 Okay.

07:15:21.800 So it's other things beyond just his physical appearance, too.

07:15:26.500 Correct.

07:15:27.360 Which is also more rare than female beauty.

07:15:31.080 Right?

07:15:31.640 If he's the leader, shouldn't he be the prize of the household?

07:15:35.440 So then men should be the prize.

07:15:38.080 Well, the logic here Brian's getting after is that if more, far more men are less attractive

07:15:43.960 than women, then that means there's a broader pool for men to choose from of attractive women

07:15:49.780 and less of a pool of attractive men for women to choose from.

07:15:53.280 So if there's less of us to choose from than there are you, then wouldn't that necessarily

07:15:58.820 make that small pool of men the prize?

07:16:02.000 Yeah.

07:16:02.380 Zilva underscore Amsterdam donated $30 in one cent.

07:16:09.280 Re, women's contribution to science.

07:16:11.880 The Indian COVID vaccine team were mostly women.

07:16:15.100 Indian Space Agency, Israel Moon Mission, mostly women in control center.

07:16:20.520 Lots of places they could contribute.

07:16:23.040 Yeah, that's totally fine.

07:16:25.100 Scared underscore of underscore public underscore toilet donated $30.

07:16:28.220 Doesn't make them more attractive to men in a dating perspective.

07:16:30.380 What do you call it when two midget transsexuals have sex?

07:16:33.380 What the fuck?

07:16:34.820 Microtransaction.

07:16:35.460 What the fuck?

07:16:36.180 Question.

07:16:37.000 If it's socially unacceptable to push your religion onto others, then how come it is when

07:16:41.760 it comes to gender views?

07:16:44.660 That's a fair question.

07:16:46.700 Okay.

07:16:49.440 Cool.

07:16:53.280 Max donated $30.

07:16:55.860 Conflating compatibility with sexual attractiveness.

07:16:58.580 You want to be bored with a hot wife who will eventually grow old?

07:17:02.900 There's a wage gap.

07:17:04.240 I make a ton more than most men.

07:17:06.180 Make me a sandwich.

07:17:08.460 Low Paladins donated $30.

07:17:11.480 Stop coping black hoodie.

07:17:13.000 You had a good man.

07:17:14.160 You scared him off with your broken feminist conditioning.

07:17:17.060 You say you want friendly compliments, but you're not attracted to any man that would.

07:17:21.800 Damn.

07:17:23.100 That's crazy.

07:17:24.020 All right.

07:17:25.900 We had, while you were gone, Kehlani, this one came through.

07:17:29.160 Michigan Christian donated $30.

07:17:31.440 I like this for us.

07:17:32.000 Kehlani, you are very beautiful.

07:17:34.280 Your views have been spot on, and I respect your will to focus on God.

07:17:38.280 I'm not far from MSU.

07:17:40.120 I'd love to meet you, even if it means waiting.

07:17:43.240 Any contact info slash socials?

07:17:45.180 I think I answered for you.

07:17:49.860 Mike Mafia donated $30.

07:17:52.540 Sorry I can't get over this.

07:17:54.540 There is no way I trust a surgery done by sleepy, yawning glasses slash lying girl who wants to be a heart surgery.

07:18:00.280 I agree.

07:18:01.080 Good luck world.

07:18:01.700 I second.

07:18:02.600 It's past her bedtime.

07:18:04.000 I second that.

07:18:04.600 Good luck world.

07:18:05.760 Okay.

07:18:06.480 I like this voice, man.

07:18:07.880 I'm going to keep it maybe.

07:18:10.520 Let's see here.

07:18:11.460 What else?

07:18:14.540 What else was there?

07:18:16.380 Wait, we did the bow video.

07:18:19.020 There's something else.

07:18:24.200 I don't know.

07:18:26.240 We're going to do a Twitch raid.

07:18:27.820 We're going to raid Andrew.

07:18:29.780 I'm trying to think.

07:18:30.500 What was the other thing?

07:18:32.560 It was so good.

07:18:37.040 No, it wasn't that.

07:18:38.780 It wasn't that.

07:18:39.500 Or me getting cut in half.

07:18:41.460 No, it's in no time.

07:18:44.200 Hold on.

07:18:44.920 Andrew, I'm going to get set up here to raid you.

07:18:47.620 Are we not going to see you flexing?

07:18:49.740 Nobody did the champagne pop.

07:18:52.700 We were a boring panel.

07:18:55.300 Sorry, everybody.

07:18:57.600 Sorry.

07:18:59.280 Sorry.

07:19:00.440 Hold on.

07:19:01.680 One sec, guys.

07:19:02.600 I'm doing.

07:19:04.480 What was the other thing?

07:19:06.560 There was another thing.

07:19:08.360 Oh, it's going to bug me so much.

07:19:09.640 Oh, wait.

07:19:11.700 Wage gap.

07:19:12.880 Did somebody bring up the wage gap?

07:19:14.740 You did.

07:19:15.160 I think that was in a comment.

07:19:15.920 It was in a comment.

07:19:17.300 Oh.

07:19:19.260 Since we have a couple Asian women here, what do you guys think about the whole Asian women

07:19:25.600 out earning white men?

07:19:27.140 What do you think of that?

07:19:29.200 Congrats, guys.

07:19:29.880 I didn't know that, but that's awesome.

07:19:31.620 I also didn't know that.

07:19:32.560 W in the chat for Asian women.

07:19:35.200 That's awesome.

07:19:36.020 Overcoming the white man.

07:19:37.720 Let's go.

07:19:38.620 Can you pull up the infographic, Nick?

07:19:40.700 I don't want them to think I'm faking this.

07:19:44.040 It's absolutely true.

07:19:46.560 Absolutely true.

07:19:48.120 Ba-da-bing.

07:19:49.220 Ba-da-boom.

07:19:50.100 Do you know what it's called?

07:19:50.840 It's probably in the wage gap infographics folder.

07:19:57.640 I can try to find it if you can't.

07:20:01.080 It should be wage.

07:20:03.840 Wage Asian women.

07:20:07.520 It's the...

07:20:08.840 Yeah, that works.

07:20:13.500 Look at that.

07:20:14.260 W Asian women.

07:20:15.240 You guys have overtaken the white man.

07:20:19.680 Oh, my goodness.

07:20:20.580 22 bucks.

07:20:21.640 That's cool, right?

07:20:23.360 Good job.

07:20:25.080 Can we get a round of applause for Asian women?

07:20:30.200 Oh, my God.

07:20:31.160 Damn, bro.

07:20:31.740 Holy shit.

07:20:32.540 That was crazy.

07:20:33.260 Okay.

07:20:34.360 Congrats.

07:20:35.080 Congrats.

07:20:35.480 You guys did it.

07:20:36.360 You guys overcame oppression and all that stuff.

07:20:41.260 I'm proud of you guys.

07:20:42.440 I'm proud of you guys.

07:20:43.420 I thought you should bow to you.

07:20:43.880 I am passing the...

07:20:45.960 The storm.

07:20:47.760 The whatever it's called.

07:20:49.260 Okay.

07:20:50.000 We're going to do Twitch Raid.

07:20:52.440 Nick, if we can...

07:20:54.180 Who are we going to raid?

07:20:54.820 Who are we going to raid?

07:20:55.760 We got Woe Grandma.

07:20:57.120 We got Aladar.

07:20:58.100 We got S-Fant.

07:21:01.980 We're going to do Aladar.

07:21:06.260 All right, guys.

07:21:06.960 I'm going to do my outro.

07:21:08.740 So, GG.

07:21:10.760 Well played to the panel.

07:21:12.340 Last call.

07:21:12.800 Hit the like button, please.

07:21:13.520 On your way out.

07:21:14.360 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

07:21:15.240 You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

07:21:17.560 I appreciate that.

07:21:18.360 Thank you to everyone who superchats, donates, and supports the show.

07:21:21.780 Your patronage is very much appreciated, really.

07:21:25.200 I want to thank all you guys who sent in a TTS or a message or what have you.

07:21:29.720 Thank you, guys.

07:21:30.600 We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.

07:21:33.400 I made it $30.

07:21:35.080 Hey!

07:21:35.320 Asian women.

07:21:36.460 Who the F said, $22.

07:21:38.360 It was $102.

07:21:40.240 I thought y'all were supposed to be good at math.

07:21:43.320 Hey!

07:21:44.700 Okay.

07:21:45.420 Cool.

07:21:46.720 Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to

07:21:49.760 Santa Barbara, 07's in the chat.

07:21:51.740 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

07:21:53.240 Nick, could you pull up Aladar?

07:21:54.840 Yeah.

07:21:55.140 I'm going to give him a rate.

07:21:56.300 He's playing World of Warcraft, Classic Fresh, Vanilla.

07:21:59.620 All right.

07:22:02.720 I'm going to send that over in just a moment.

07:22:04.560 07's in the chat.

07:22:05.680 Oh, wait.

07:22:05.920 Really quick.

07:22:06.640 Ah, shit.

07:22:07.240 Wait.

07:22:07.460 Hold on.

07:22:09.540 Wait.

07:22:09.940 Nick, pull up Twitch really quick.

07:22:10.860 We've got to do our last Twitch shoutout.

07:22:12.380 My bad.

07:22:12.700 I forgot that.

07:22:15.300 Guys, go to Twitch.tv slash whatever.

07:22:16.860 Drop us a follow.

07:22:17.340 Drop us a Prime sub.

07:22:18.560 Twitch.tv.

07:22:19.460 Drop us a follow.

07:22:19.940 Drop us a Prime sub.

07:22:20.600 Guys, really quick.

07:22:21.320 Check if you have an available Prime sub in the chat.

07:22:23.740 It's been 19 minutes since we got Prime.

07:22:25.940 I think it's bugged.

07:22:27.420 Help.

07:22:27.900 Help.

07:22:28.360 Help.

07:22:28.600 Drop us a follow also on your way out, guys.

07:22:31.760 Drop us a Prime sub if you have one.

07:22:33.080 Really appreciate it.

07:22:33.640 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

07:22:34.780 Thank you.

07:22:35.120 Thank you.

07:22:35.740 All right.

07:22:36.240 Pull it back to Aldar.

07:22:37.460 I'm going to send that over in just seven seconds.

07:22:41.240 Like I said, he's playing World of Warcraft, Classic Fresh.

07:22:45.620 Refresh it.

07:22:46.120 You're going to have to refresh it probably.

07:22:47.860 Okay.

07:22:48.420 You got it?

07:22:49.660 All right, guys.

07:22:50.180 Thank you for watching on Twitch.

07:22:52.060 Thank you, guys.

07:22:52.640 Appreciate your support over there on Twitch.

07:22:55.620 I'm going to send the raid.

07:22:59.600 Damn, his hair's all fucked up.

07:23:00.400 All right, let's go to Thunder Bluff.

07:23:02.160 He's got a bad head, man.

07:23:03.060 Is there a...

07:23:04.520 He's playing...

07:23:05.380 Hey, whatever.

07:23:06.620 What's up, man?

07:23:08.160 He's playing an orc?

07:23:09.900 I was watching some of the whatever podcasts today.

07:23:13.000 Do you want to hear it?

07:23:16.520 No.

07:23:17.020 How's it going?

07:23:17.780 I watched some of your podcasts today, actually, before I had to go out.

07:23:22.680 What the fuck?

07:23:22.760 What the fuck?

07:23:23.280 World's tallest human...

07:23:24.760 Or longest legs.

07:23:26.640 Yeah.

07:23:27.260 For a woman.

07:23:27.600 If you guys haven't seen this.

07:23:29.740 This woman's got legs that are longer than Alex Enchel.

07:23:33.840 Amazing.

07:23:35.500 Who?

07:23:36.280 Who?

07:23:37.240 I guess it's another streamer.

07:23:39.060 Five, three-inch legs or something like that?

07:23:40.720 Or 52 inches?

07:23:41.700 Crazy.

07:23:43.520 Welcome, everyone.

07:23:44.640 Okay.

07:23:44.980 Okay.

07:23:45.280 All right.

07:23:45.620 That's it for that.

07:23:46.320 Welcome, welcome, welcome.

07:23:47.460 You can stop that.

07:23:49.200 I just want to double-check here.

07:23:50.300 Make sure we have the raid all good to go for Andrew.

07:23:52.860 We do.

07:23:53.660 These girls know sign language or something.

07:23:55.280 I'm not sure it entirely will.

07:23:56.320 Were you doing gang signs?

07:23:57.380 What were you doing, bruv?

07:23:58.260 It was her birthday yesterday, so she turned 20.

07:24:00.760 Happy birthday.

07:24:02.520 Yesterday or just right now?

07:24:04.660 Oh, I guess, yes.

07:24:05.580 What time is it?

07:24:06.700 12.33.

07:24:07.380 The 23rd.

07:24:09.360 So yesterday.

07:24:10.480 So today, technically.

07:24:11.380 Yeah, just letting you know it's all downhill at 20.

07:24:13.280 Okay.

07:24:13.640 Thank you.

07:24:14.280 I know.

07:24:14.840 Congrats.

07:24:15.460 Your life is over.

07:24:17.160 Anyways, 07's in the chat.

07:24:19.260 Guys, we're sending a raid over to Andrew.

07:24:21.620 Be sure to drop him a sub when you're over there.

07:24:25.260 Always good to have Andrew in the chat, in the show.

07:24:30.120 Thank you.

07:24:31.180 Yeah, I enjoy your perspective.

07:24:32.760 Final word.

07:24:33.660 Yeah, it was nice to meet all you guys.

07:24:35.100 I hope to see all of you back.

07:24:38.220 Except for the troll back there.

07:24:39.540 But all the rest of you, you're okay.

07:24:41.700 I don't know if she's coming back.

07:24:43.360 Bye, Andrew.

07:24:44.540 All right.

07:24:45.640 Okay, 07's in the chat.

07:24:47.260 I hope you guys have a good night, and we will see you Sunday with the next Dating Talk.

07:24:51.900 Good night, guys.

07:24:52.640 Bye.

07:24:53.200 Bye.

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Whatever Podcast - July 24, 2024

She Is 6ft10？! She Gets BORED & Dumps Men？! Single BUT Unavailable？ 3 VlRGlNS？｜ Dating Talk #181

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