Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! HEATED DEBATE With Feminists! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #172
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Summary
In this episode, we introduce ourselves and talk about what we do, how we got into the dating game, and what we are looking for in a significant other. We also have a special guest on the show to talk about her job as a flight attendant.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. Thanks for tuning in tonight. A few quick announcements.
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takes 30. Streamlabs.com slash whatever. Link for that is in the description. We do prioritize
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messages that are made via Streamlabs. Since we have Charlie here for the sake of a smooth stream,
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disruptive, we may have to boost it higher or temporarily. Pause it. Time permitting, we will
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try to get through all reads and TTS while Charlie is still here. You can see the description for all
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triggers and full details. With that said, we're going to just jump right in. We're going to have
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the guests introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead.
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My name is Karina, and I'm turning 28 next month. I am currently, well, I'm going to be a law student
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in August. Are you currently a student right now? I am currently waiting for school to start. I work
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at a firm. So you're like a paralegal, or you have your undergrad in something? I have my undergrad in
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psychology, and I'm a law clerk. Okay, very cool. What about you? Hi, I'm Larissa. I'm 21. I live here
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in IV, and I just graduated from UCSB, so I'm actually going to start my new job as a behavioral
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interventionalist and trauma caregiver. And what was your major at UCSB? Sociology. Sociology. Okay,
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SOCH. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Caitlin. I'm 20, and I go to UCR, and I'm a student.
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UC Riverside? Yeah. Okay. What are you studying? Media. Media. Just media? Or media and cultural studies.
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Media studies? Okay. And cultural studies. Is one a minor, or that's the program? No, it's one
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major. Media and cultural studies. Okay. And you're from, originally from Riverside?
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Fullerton. Fullerton. Okay, got it. What about you? I'm Amy. I'll be 48 at the end of the year,
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and I'm a pilot, and I've been a bit of a gold digger. You've been, like, past tense, or?
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On and off. Current. Okay, been a bit of a gold digger. You also, hold on, I had some notes here.
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In addition to that, hold on, you're also pilot? Correct. Model. You said model. And what's the
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other thing that you do? High-end? I've dated wealthy men. Okay. Who've provided for me.
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But you're also a high-end companion. Do I have that? Yeah, I've dated wealthy men who've provided
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for me. Okay, got it. All right. And when you say pilot, is this a commercial license?
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Commercially licensed. I've flown cargo and charter, and I've been a flight instructor.
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Okay. Wow. All right. Cool. What about you? I'm shy. I'm 19, and I'm also from the Gold Coast.
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All right. And are you in school or anything like that? No. What do you do for work? Only fans.
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Okay. How long have you been doing that for? Six months. Six months. All right. And any school at all?
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Like college? What do they call it? Uni? Yeah, but I was doing my Cert 3 for beauty, but then I kind of
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just ditched that and became an OnlyFans. For beauty. Okay. Got it. Like cosmetics or? Yeah. Okay. Got it.
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What about you? Hi, my name's Serena. I am 21, and I just recently graduated from UCR,
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and this fall I will be attending SF State to get my Master's. And what did you do for your
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undergrad? Biology. And what are you going for your Master's? What do you? Still bio?
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Yeah. Biomedical science with a concentration in biotechnology. Are you wanting to be a doctor?
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I just want to go into research. Research. Okay. What about you? I'm Imogen. I'm 18,
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and I'm from Australia, Gold Coast. All right. And what do you do for work? OnlyFans. Okay.
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What about you? Hi, I'm Leah. I'm 26. I'm from North Carolina, and I do marketing.
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All right. Welcome. Hi, I'm Heather. I'm 35, currently a stay-at-home life. I was a corporate
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director of food safety and quality assurance for a very large food manufacturer, and I will
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be a law student in August. Okay. And Charlie, what about you? Hi, I'm Charlie. I'm Erica's
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husband and father of two. We just had a new baby. So we have two under two. So, and yeah,
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it's book promo week. That's the only reason I was able to get away. There we go. It's one
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of my first trips since we've had the new little one. Gotcha. Age? Of the baby or of me?
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Both. One month. I'm 30 years old. All right. 30. Got it. And you're also the founder of...
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A small little thing called Turning Point. Turning Point. And podcast, radio, and all
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sorts of fun stuff. All right. Rock and roll. Welcome, everybody. So we're going to go around
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the table once more. What's everybody's current relationship status? So are you single, talking
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stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, harem, polycule? There's
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all kinds of... It's 2024, you know, all kinds of arrangements. If you're single, how long
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have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Starting with
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you. Go ahead. I would say I'm off the market. I've been dating somebody for a few years
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now. All right. So we'll say relationship? Sure. Yes. But you said off the market. Okay.
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But you said like two or three years? Two years. Yeah. Two years. Are you guys boyfriend,
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girlfriend, or is there no title? There's not. I don't like the titles before marriage,
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but... Is it exclusive, like monogamous? It's exclusive monogamy. Yeah.
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We'll just say two years. Yeah. Longest relationship? I think like three and a half,
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four years, maybe. All right. Yeah. What about you? I'm single. I've been single since 2023,
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and my longest relationship is like two-ish years. Like the beginning of 2023 or like the end of
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2023? You've been single? Like April-ish. So about a year you've been single. And sorry,
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longest relationship? Two-ish years. Two. All right. What about you? I'm in a relationship.
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About three years. Three years. Okay. And where did you guys meet? UCR. UCR? Okay. And is he like
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also... Are you going into your senior year at UCR? Yeah. Is he also going into senior? Okay.
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Are you guys both in the... Like, are you guys in sororities? Yeah. Yeah? Same one? Is that how you
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guys know each other? Yeah. Okay. Is he a frat guy? Yeah. Okay. Did you meet at a frat party or
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something like that? He just reached out to me on Instagram. Oh, he slid in the DMs. Okay. Yeah.
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All right. Did you guys... You guys didn't have like a class together or anything? You just...
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No. Same dorm? Anything like that? No. Okay. You went same school, slid into the DMs. It worked.
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Okay. Cool. And is this your longest relationship that you've had? It's my only relationship. Only
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relationship. All right. What about you? I date two people casually. Okay. I've been seeing both
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of them for 18 years and they are my longest relationships. Okay. So date... I've never
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had to write that. Dating two for 18 years. All right. Have you ever been married? No.
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Engaged. Never married. Engaged. How many proposals? Any proposals? Many. Many proposals. No acceptance
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of the proposals. They just... Did they not... They just didn't meet the... Or do you not want
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to get married? I'd like to get the last round of the draft picked. That's what I'm waiting
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for. Just the very last round. The last rock birdie. Yeah. Okay. And so these two men
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that you've been dating both for 18 years? Mm-hmm. Do they... They know about each other?
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Yeah. And they're... Are they dating other women? Not that I know of. Not that you know
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of. But they can. They can. Okay. And so you're... You said you've been casually dating them
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for 18 years? Yeah. We don't live together. We have no plans for marriage. That's all I mean
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by that. Do they live in different parts of the country? So you'll like fly out? How
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often would you say you see each of them? Every other week or so. When I feel like it.
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And they fly you out? Or did you have something? No. Oh, okay. I'm learning. He's taking it
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in. Yeah. We meet wherever we feel like it. Okay. The world's small. Everywhere's got airports.
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Sure. No big deal. All right. And how did you meet those guys? Internet. Okay. All right.
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And in this 18-year period, did you ever have like a third person you were dating? Like
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you'll date a guy here, a guy there? So someone I met in 2017, I thought I'd probably cash it
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in and end up with that maybe permanently. Sorry, cash it in? Like trade in everything else,
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my freedom, other opportunity, whatever, and pick this person. And that failed after a few
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very romantic years. So that was about five years, maybe six. I'd have to go back and look.
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And the two men that you're dating currently? We hung it up for those years. Okay. But the two men
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that you have been dating for the past 18 years, you mentioned that you're, I'm sorry, was it
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professional? Not professional gold digger. What was it? You can say that. I don't mind. Okay.
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Okay. Uh, are you, did you gold dig them? I mean, they're, they're wealthy. Yeah. It's my type. That's
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the sort I like. What's the, like, what is the procedure for, for gold digging? I don't know. Like,
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what's the process? Walk me through. I only know my life. Um, yeah. So I can't speak for everyone else.
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Maybe they get you nice gifts. They fly you out. Sure. She flies herself. I mean, that takes a long
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time in little planes. So not usually I like being back and let the pilots work. Do you own,
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maybe you own, do you own a private plane or anything? Can we next? Okay. That'd be what you
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could, you could try to gold dig a plane, right? That's like, that would be a good, put it on the
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resume. I'm fine. I'm fine for transportation. Somebody bought me a plane. That's a, that's a W,
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right? Okay. What about you? I've been single for two years. All right. Two years, longest, uh,
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relationship, any relationships? Uh, yeah. One year. One year. Okay.
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All right. Uh, and that was in Australia, I'm assuming. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, was he, I've heard
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this term bogan. Was, was he a bogan? Yeah. I could say that. Can you explain just for the
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viewers and the panel who might not know what a bogan is? Um, it's just like the lingo. It's
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just like how they speak and like what they do, like walk around in thongs all the time and
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like shorts and like sandals. Yeah. That's Australian for Australian for sandals. Yeah.
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And like singlets, like singlets. Yeah. Like just like, like wrestling singlets. Like they
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just pin somebody or text them or something. Okay. Uh, okay. What about you? I've been single
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for like a month or two. Oh, uh, how long were you? Sorry about that. Uh, how long were
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you dating that guy? Three years. Oh, rip. Uh, frat guy. Was it a frat guy? Yeah. But
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I knew him before he joined a frat. Okay. So you said single for one month? Yeah. About
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or so. And now was that your longest relationship? Yeah. Three years. Okay. Uh, why did you guys
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break up? Um, it just didn't work out. Didn't work out. Yeah. Who broke up with who? Um, I
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guess you could say he broke up with me, but yeah. What did you do? What did you do to him?
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I didn't, I didn't necessarily do anything. It was just more of the fact that like, did you
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slash his tires? No, I'm not crazy. I swear. But, um, we broke up because of like cultural
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differences. Oh, uh, what's he like? He, he was Arab. Yeah. So what, what were the differences
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that were sticking points in the relationship? Like culturally, like if we were to get married,
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it wouldn't work out. Like I would have to convert to Islam. Are you religious at all?
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Right. Not really. Not really. But you, so you didn't want to convert basically? No. Okay.
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And you dated him for three years? Yeah. Did you, did, was this like, uh, something that
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came along later on in the relationship or was he always kind of like, we talked about
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it, but like, we never like really talked about it until yeah. Recently. Is there a doubt?
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Would there have been a dowry? Is that part of, I don't know how it works. What do you mean?
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The dowry? Like you would pay, I think you were like the, your family would pay. Was
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it a bride price or something? I don't know. I don't know how it works. That's very serious
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Islam. I don't think that would. No. In any case, cultural differences. Okay. Uh, and
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so you guys, uh, split up. You've been single for one month. Any, any rebounds? No. Focusing
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on myself. Like SIGUP. Any guys from SIGUP? SIGUP. No. No SIGUP rebounds? No SIGUP rebounds.
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Do you guys have a pike? No. Charlie, were you in a fraternity? I didn't go to college.
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Didn't? Oh, that's right. I didn't go to college. Okay. Yeah. Uh, okay. So no, no rebound
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then. Okay. But are you, uh, you kind of taking a break or you, uh, you know, you're looking
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for a new, a new boo? No, definitely not. Definitely not. Okay. What about you? Um,
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I've been single for like a year and a bit. One year. Okay. Yeah. And any relationships?
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Have you had a relationship? Oh yeah. Um, for like five months, but we broke up like a year
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and a bit ago. Okay. Was he also a? Yeah. He was like an Esche. Oh, I don't, what is that?
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Oh, like he wears like TNs and like, he has like tattoos everywhere and like, he's got like
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a rat's tail. A rat tail. Yeah. Like a ratty. It's like a little plat. A ratty. Is that what
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they're called? Ratties. Okay. Um, and yeah, he was a bit of a bogan. Yeah. How do you define
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bogan? Like kind of like really Aussie, like really Aussie. Like I don't really know how to
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define it, but kind of just like Aussie and like, you're just like, yeah. Like I don't even know how
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to define it. Okay. All right. Yeah. Just like a really like big Aussie, big Aussie. Yeah. He was
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overweight. Oh no, no. Oh, okay. No, like a big Aussie as in like, he was really, really
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Aussie. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. All right. What about you? Um, I'm single, have been for
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a year and a couple months. Um, my longest relationship consecutively was a few months,
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like maybe three months, but it was kind of on and off for four years. And is that the
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one that ended about a year ago? No. Okay. So, but your longest relationship was a few
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months, but it was on again, off again for a couple of years. Yeah. Okay.
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How many times on and off or off and on rather? Oh God. Dozens. If not hundreds. Wait,
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hundreds. Yeah. He was real into drugs. That would do it. Yeah. That'd do it. Um, which
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what was his drug of choice? Meth. Oh, did you partake? No, no, no. Okay. Not you, but he
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wait. So you said you on and off hundreds of times, how early on into the, this multi-year
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long off again, on again relationship, did you find out he was on meth? Like the first
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time you guys broke up? No. So I met him in middle school and then it was kind of like
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a talking stage kind of thing for a couple of years and we started dating. Um, and then
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it was on and off again. And probably about three years in is when he was like, oh yeah,
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I tried meth. And I was like, oh, okay. And he assured me that he was not going to do it
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again. And he did not like it. Um, and then we got back together and about two years later
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he was like, yeah, no, I saw my body under the pier for meth. And I was like, oh, okay.
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Wait, you, what about his body? He would prostitute himself for meth. Oh, that's horrible. Uh,
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what? Hold on. To, um, yeah. I hate that for us. To men? To men. And you were dating
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during this time? Yeah. It was not a good moment. I think you win the whatever podcast.
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That's pretty wild. No, no, no. No need to apologize. Um, uh, okay. Is he okay now? Oh,
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I don't really know. The last time I talked to him, he, it was like a year ago when I bought
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my house and he was like, oh, congrats on life. And I was like, good to know you're alive,
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dude. So, yeah. Huh? Uh, okay. So off, off again, on again, hundreds of times. Uh, all
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right. We'll come back to that a little. I'll just write down meth. Okay. Uh, what about
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you? That'll remind me. Go ahead. What about you? I am married and my longest relationship
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was about 12 years. Is that your current? That was my ex-husband. Is it? So this is your
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second marriage. Correct. Okay. And you have kids? We do not. How long have you been married?
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April 5th. So a couple months. And how long were you dating before? A year and a half
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for two years. So you've been together for about two years then? Yes. Okay. Two years
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and no kids at all. No kids. Do you want kids? No. No kids. Um, don't want kids. Okay. Do
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not like kids. Cannot have kids. Don't, don't like, Oh, can't have kids. Correct. I had some
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medical issues about five years ago and got her taken out. Oh, like a hysterectomy? Oh, okay.
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Sorry to hear that. All right. And well, before that though, were you inclined to have kids
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or still not so much? I've never really had the maternal instinct. Um, I've always been
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very career and school driven. Okay. All right. Uh, and your previous marriage, that was the
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one that was 12 years, correct? Yeah. We are married for eight of those. And put together
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for 12. Okay. All right. And Charlie, uh, I think you kind of went over it a little
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bit, but we'll just, so married for how long? We've been married. We got married in May of
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21. So that is, uh, three years. And then together, how long total? Uh, five and a half
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years. Yeah. All right. Got it. And two kids under two. Two kids. Congrats. Boy, girl or? Yeah.
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Boy, girl combo. All right. Girl is older. How many, how many kids total are you aiming
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for? Uh, we'll see. Like a whole, uh, battalion. Yeah, we'll see. They, they, uh, a quiver
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is supposed to be five. So we'll see. I don't think we'll get there. What's that? What's
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that verse about children are a gift from the Lord. It's something along the lines of a quiver,
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which is five. So there's this verse though. And it's something along the lines of, uh, children
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in a man's youth are like arrows in the hand, something I'm totally butchering. It's the
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quiver verse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So five ish, but I don't think we'll get there, but we're,
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we're super blessed. I'm very happy. Perfect. Cool. Cool. All right. So that's everybody's
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relationship status. Charlie. I mean, I'd like to, you heard a couple of the, uh, girl's
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stories here. I don't know if you had any that you want. I'm curious about the, um, the,
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the gold digging thing. Do both men know about each other? They do. And are they married
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or are they single? They're single. And they're, they're cool with that? Yeah.
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Everybody's different. Just tell me more. I'm curious about it. What would you like
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to know? Do they pay you? Uh, not in so much as actual handing me buckets of cash. That'd
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be cool though. Um, but yeah, both of them have been very generous. I like things that
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way. Okay. Keeps the schedule freer too. So we can all see each other. Do they, have
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they ever met? No. And so they, they're in like different, do you, would you mind if they
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met? Uh, with me? Are you, are you talking about like biblically or something? No, I'm not
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biblically. No, I'm fine. I'm just curious. Like if they were ever to like meet each
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other, that'd be a, sure. Whatever. Okay. Interesting. Nick, if you can change the split
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back to it. Yeah. Um, did you have any other questions? No, I'm just, why not three more
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money, right? I think everything in moderation, especially moderation. So two is moderation.
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For me, it's what works. It's, I, I like my life as it is. So that's what works. If
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maybe I'll change, decide differently tomorrow. Cool. No, I, I, I'm, it's a, it's a brave new
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world for me. I'm just learning. Okay. Uh, I wanted to ask Charlie, do you have any plans
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to, uh, run for political office? No, I do not. No plans? No. I'm very happy the way
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I am. No, no, I'm too young actually. Oh, you have to be 35. Yeah, that's right. I'm only
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30. So I'm very happy with the life we have right now. So yeah, super blessed. Not even
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in the future? No, no, no. You don't want it? No. Yeah. Okay. No, I, I love hosting
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radio, love doing the podcast, love doing books, traveling the country. So. Okay. Got
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it. I want to start off the show. We're going to react to a clip. Oh wait, I, did I pull
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it up? Of mine? Uh, great. No, no, not of yours, but I definitely want you to weigh out when
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weigh in on it. Excuse me. So Nick, it's actually in the Dropbox folder. I forgot to put it
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on one of the tabs. It's, uh, let me get you, I'm going to see if I can just send you the
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link, but one sec. Actually just go ahead, pull up the Dropbox folder. My bad. Forgot to
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get this pulled up. It's, uh, Dropbox and then the videos tab. Uh, podcast, podcast folder.
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Nope, nope, nope. In there. Podcast. So it's actually right there. The first one, the first
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video. Wait, no, no, no, it's not, it's, it's in this one. Yeah, that one. Uh, you
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should actually just pull it over to the tab. Do you want to know one of these tabs? Can
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you mute the audio please? Yeah, I got it. Okay, can you pull it over please? Yes. You
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got it? Yeah. Were you, were you able to like pull it into one of the tabs? Yeah. Okay.
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All right. Oops. Oh, that laptop came out of nowhere. Okay.
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Who has that one? Can you, can you, can you, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick? Sorry. Okay. Wow. All
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right. Uh, Nick, can you, okay. At the very bottom there, Windows tutorial. Okay. Okay. And
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that, all right. Go ahead and, uh, start from the beginning, please. All right. We're
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going to have you guys react to this. Do you want to know one of the saddest realizations
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I recently had was that as a liberal woman, it is really hard to find a man who is willing
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to play the more traditional masculine role in the relationship in today's day and age, who
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is not a conservative, a man who wants to pay on the first date, who wants to open your door,
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who has that want and desire to take care of you and to provide, who is not a conservative.
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And obviously as a liberal woman, I do want to be respected from independence. And I do
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want to have my own autonomy in the relationship and not be confined or conform to the traditional
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female homemaker childbearing role. And most of the men that I've dated who do have that
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more natural provider masculinity about them are normally conservative. So I don't really
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know what to do because I don't want to compromise my morals and values just to find a man. But
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All right. All right. So we're going to get the girl's reactions just going around the table.
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So what are your thoughts on the clip? And do you think that liberal women deserve chivalrous
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My question is, is liberal the same as progressive for the most part?
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I think because of that, it'll be hard for her to find somebody who's, you know, anti,
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who has anti-liberal morals while still being progressive at the same time.
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With that being said, I think she is also grouping morals into just like political values, which
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is kind of dumb. I think she can find a guy who's morally in the right place with his head
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and still doesn't mind that, you know, she goes to work. I don't know.
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I actually agree with everything you just said, because I feel like that's the only type of
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guys I date. Like every guy I've dated feds under that. So it's not that rare.
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What? The type of guy that she described she's looking for.
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I don't date conservative men. Men that are like straight up conservative.
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Do you think men should pay on the first date? Everybody?
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For the most part, yeah. It shows your role as like you're willing and provider-like.
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Yeah. Any guy who went 50-50 with me is like...
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So what do you think of the feminist movement that says women should go 50-50? What do you
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guys think of that? Unlike the first... On dates?
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I'm totally down for that. And then we're friends for life. We're not dating if we're going 50-50.
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Well, so yeah, we'll go around the table. Who should pay on the first date?
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Okay. Can you tilt the microphone down just a tad?
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I think it depends on who asked... Like who asked the person on the date. So like if I
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This is for first date? Or even your boyfriend? You would pay with your boyfriend? Wow.
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Or like... Like say if I initiated the first date, then I feel like I should pay.
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Okay. Well, with your boyfriend, when you guys go on dates, you've been dating for three
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years. Do you guys kind of... Is it 50-50? Or how is it with your boyfriend?
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I mean, he like usually initiates to pay, but I try to pay and help.
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Right. Or like, because he doesn't let me, so...
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Okay. So like overwhelmingly for like dates and stuff, he'll pay?
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Okay. And then before you met him, if you were going on first dates, what was your experience
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The guy will pay? Because you said whoever asked should pay. For first dates, have you
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Interesting. Okay. What about you? Who should pay on a first date?
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So that's... She's correct. That's the typical etiquette rule is whoever asks.
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For me in my romantic life, I like generous men, as we've talked about ad nauseum, so I
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would not be attracted to a guy who wanted me to pay.
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I don't know if it's been ad nauseum yet, but...
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I honestly don't mind. Like, I wouldn't go 50-50 with the bill. I would rather pay the
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full amount or he, like, pay the full amount. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Typically, I think usually the guy should pay for the first date, but then I feel like
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after you guys have been, like, dating for a while, then usually, like, in my past experience,
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I would take turns. Like, if I'm paying for dinner, then he would pay for, like, dessert.
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Well, you were in a relationship for three years, right? So was that a case in your three-year
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What's up, Kirk? Panel epitomizes modern culture, where a pack of nobody girls can be on the
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That's him. Mike Davis. He's a longtime supporter.
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I want to meet him. That's cool. We'll arrange it. He owns, like, hundreds of Burger King.
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Yeah, he's a little sassy. He's a little sassy, but thank you, Mike Davis.
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Wait, so going back to you with your relationship, you know, what was the dynamic there?
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Definitely when we first started dating, he would pay for a lot more because he had, like,
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And then the longer that, like, we started dating, it definitely went more 50-50.
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But also it kind of depended, like, if I wanted to go somewhere more expensive, but he, like,
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didn't want to eat there, then I would pay because I want to go there.
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I'm, like, 50-50. Like, it doesn't really matter.
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But, like, on first date, I feel like it would be good if a guy could pay just for, like,
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But when it comes to, like, further down the track, like, it doesn't really matter.
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I think it should be 50-50 regardless of who asked.
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I think it shows that they have more of a provider mindset.
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I do want to get some follow-up a little bit on the clip.
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Yes, men should always pay regardless of what date it is.
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Even if you have to go into debt, borrow money, it's a complete humiliation or embarrassment
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I think it's the downfall of a lot of things in society where we're asking women to pay
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Men should, you should look yourself in the mirror and figure it out.
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If you want to court a woman regardless of she.
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By the way, women shouldn't be asking men on dates.
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I mean, not that there's anything wrong with it, but I'm saying, like, men should be the assertive
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And sort of a follow-up question on some of your guys' answers.
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Do you, going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist?
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I feel like that word has been so misconstrued.
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For example, like, feminism has given rights to even, like, men who have had S.A. in the
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past and they're able to speak up on it now or...
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So men who have experienced that, you know, women at one point weren't able to visit the
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And now it's given patient privacy in the sense that...
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Women were not allowed to get health care from a hospital.
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So if they had, like, a limb chopped off back in the farming days or some shit...
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I'm sure they had emergency, but, like, in terms of checkups.
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This is a new feminist talking point I've heard, that women were barred from getting
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I think you just kind of manifested this out of nowhere.
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Oh, no, I, like, searched it up before I got here.
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I don't believe in a lot of modern feminist ideals.
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Well, you got to, okay, you kind of didn't want to react to the clip there.
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Okay, let me ask you a question to perhaps help things along.
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Do you believe in a patriarchy, that there is a patriarchy?
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Did you take any, like, feminist studies or sociology classes in university?
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I mean, I guess there's more, like, men, like, in positions.
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Do you think there should be a movement towards egalitarian?
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But, so, do you think there ought to be a movement towards egalitarianism and equality in all realms?
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And do you think the current social order, at least through the feminist standpoint of there's this patriarchy,
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do you think we ought to dismantle a patriarchy, if there is one?
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I mean, I think, in the end, like, it could be equal, but I don't know.
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So, can we define what you're using the word feminist?
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My understanding was it was that women should have equal access to rights in pursuit of happiness sort of thing,
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Yeah, so first way feminism would be, like, the equal rights amendment.
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No, going back before that, universal suffrage, that women should be able to vote.
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Second way feminism was, like, Gloria Steinman, where she wrote The Feminist Mystique,
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where she was rather nasty in her writing, saying that women are in a prison cell called The Home and barefoot and pregnant.
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But that led to a lot of women in the workforce and a lot of career advancement for women for positive or negative.
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Third way feminism is that any inequity that we see between men or women is inherently wrong.
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So that, for example, if you have modeling, women should not earn more than men and men should not earn more than women.
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You know, that if there's any inequity, third way feminism is very much as, I forgot your name, I'm sorry.
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Karina, you said it's rooted in a hatred of men more than the advancement of women.
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Second way feminism is more of a critique that child rearing, nuclear family development, those things are largely negative,
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and that women should be allowed to be liberated beyond that.
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I'm generalizing, but that's first, second, and third way feminism.
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So first way feminism goes back to the passing of, you know, universal suffrage and all that.
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And then I think it's a shame if anybody, I like a world where people can do what they want.
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And that's a shame that people have been told that being a stay-at-home mother, all these other things, having children, is lesser than.
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Do you guys think that women, if we were to get into a war, should be enlisted in the draft?
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Because this is currently being debated in front of the Congress right now, the Senate.
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Senate Democrats are pushing to say that men and women, if we were to get into a time of a draft, which we had back in Vietnam, both should be drafted into war.
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But they don't necessarily put them at the front lines.
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Well, I think Charlie was speaking about the United States.
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I mean, are they going to pass the same physical standards?
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Because then there'll just be fewer of them because of virtue of sexual dimorphism.
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They're accommodated for female fitness standards.
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When military activity requires less physical strength, it is more sort of hacking and flying drones from a building.
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Perhaps women's military service could be different.
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But does anyone think that women should be sheltered from the horrors of war and men should lead into the nastiest, ugliest things for society on behalf of society?
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And the reason I ask is because feminism, if it's implemented at its core premise, is they want equal outcomes but then also equal treatment.
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Which is that if we go to war, women have to go storm Normandy Beach next time too, not just men.
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I want you guys to answer that question, but let's actually get the answer to are you a feminist?
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I mean, I love women, and I think women have a beautiful place to play in society, but especially third-wave feminism is a toxin on society.
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And I think also the degradation of stay-at-home motherhood has been really, really dangerous and destructive for our society.
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It should be celebrated as an option for women.
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So going around the table, so this is something that's currently being contemplated.
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I think, so my understanding is, they're also, instead of men having to register for the Selective Service, they're just automatically-
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Everyone automatically gets enrolled, male or female.
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Well, they're debating it in the Senate Armed Services Committee, and it very well might pass.
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Which is just, I'm just curious what young ladies think of the perspective of maybe having to go into the military at a time of war.
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So the question is, do you think women ought to be drafted or required to-
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Or protected from the draft, which would be my position.
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So do you think women ought to be subject to forced military conscription, a.k.a. the draft, a.k.a. the Selective Service?
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However, perhaps they have to have a more concrete role in their place, either at home or if they choose to serve the country, to do it in a way where it's not at the front lines.
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But the front lines argument, I think, is a little bit disingenuous.
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Because a drone operator is not the front lines, but you could kill more people as a drone operator than being on the-
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So the question is, should we shield women from the ugliest front-line massacre situations that we can imagine?
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I want you also to think, sorry to interrupt, beyond results, too.
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Do we have a moral obligation to protect women from bullets, missiles, and artillery shells?
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The other stuff I'm fine with, but the missiles, I think they can get the missiles.
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I don't think women should be drafted because, at the end of the day, it wouldn't really help the war in any much way.
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Whoa, that's a really sexist statement of you to make.
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No, because I'm making front-line, physical, you know what I mean?
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Whereas, if you're saying, oh, should they have a place in the war?
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Yeah, I feel like if a woman wants to be able to be in the war-
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But if a woman- I feel like they definitely have a role in the war.
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But you shouldn't just draft any and every woman in the terms of equality, you know?
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Yeah, it wouldn't be equality in terms of a war.
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Yeah, there's so many nuances and so many things with feminism where I don't agree with
00:40:43.420
Like, if he says, are you that type of feminist that he just described?
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The type of feminist that's for actual equality?
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Well, what about the feminists that, in pursuit of equality, want women to be drafted?
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It's mostly men that are actually pushing for it in the Democrat Party.
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The women of America are largely silent on this.
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And for as much people hate Donald Trump, he was the one that said women will never be
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Yeah, well, just going around the table, do you think women should be subject to military
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I think if they have attributes that will proceed, then I think they should.
00:41:38.540
Well, it would just be a blanket general draft.
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That's what happened in Vietnam or World War II.
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Like, if we go to war with Kazakhstan tomorrow, you're there.
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Yeah, that was pretty politically neutral, I guess.
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But so, yes in favor of the draft for women or no, not in favor?
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I just think if everyone does go to war, then, like, everyone goes to war.
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Like, if you think about animal husbandry, after war, you tend to need to repopulate, right?
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Uterus is busy for about a year, a little less, right?
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So, when you do animal husbandry, you tend to need more females than a male.
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I don't think anybody really understands why, because it probably shouldn't be.
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But, that said, I think losing uteruses to war death is probably long-term more damaging for a society.
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So, even if you hate men, like men, hate women, love men, you probably don't want to sacrifice the uterus people when you're going to need them.
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Because you're going to need them to repopulate.
00:43:15.760
Well, let's assume, like, the draft, you know, on a micro level, I think that argument makes sense.
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But, let me ask you, would you feel as if it's consistent with your nature to get in the plane and drop bombs?
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If I was drafted and it was my service, I would do it, because I love my country.
00:43:49.000
Well, there's been an attack on the whatever podcast.
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Incredibly qualified, but these are largely volunteer.
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Well, the Russian is not as much, but they have exemptions for their draft.
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No, but, okay, so the question is, like, this would be something that's forced.
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So, okay, so currently, I know you're from Australia, but I suspect there's probably a military draft or conscription in Australia where they have to register.
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So, in the United States, I assume it's the same in Australia, men have to register for something called the Selective Service, which, in wartime, if the government opted to, you know, they couldn't find enough soldiers, they could force people, force males to join the war effort, become soldiers.
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That's strictly men, currently, but Congress, the government, they're contemplating making it both men and women.
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So, do you think women should also be subject to potential forced military conscription, a.k.a. the draft?
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You personally wouldn't want to go to war, right?
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It would, because you're 21, so you would potentially be subject to draft.
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You guys are giving the most non-answer answers to this question, but if it happens, it happens.
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For the sake of everything being 50-50, then, yeah, sure, go for it.
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But I know we are a lot weaker than men, especially of the same size and stature.
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I mean, they could beat us at any point in time unless, like, we have a gun.
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And then I think just the emotional trauma of, like, seeing somebody killed.
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Females are more emotional than guys are generally, and that would be a lot harder for us to get over.
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So, and then I would imagine no one has a problem if the war got really crazy for men being drafted.
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So then, for those of you that said you were feminists, do you see any inconsistency between saying that you want equality, but you're cool with sending men to run into machine guns to protect your society?
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I didn't say I was a feminist, but it's definitely mental gymnastics, right?
00:46:52.800
No, but what I'm getting at, though, is that it's easy, and I know that you have all been so polite, but let's just dive right into it.
00:47:01.240
Taylor Swift just today was one of her songs, F the patriarchy, and everyone in the concert screams that, right?
00:47:08.260
Well, it's a lyric to one of her songs of some name tag that was dropped, but she says it like a rallying cry, like F the patriarchy.
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When it comes down to it, it's like you're cool throwing men to the front lines of war, but not yourself.
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I think that it is an idea toxin where we have really denigrated having children and staying at home for a lot of women.
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And there needs to be an ideological reason as to why you don't get married and you don't have kids for the vast majority of the population.
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And they developed feminism where they said that for young women, becoming a CEO of a shoe company is as fulfilling as having children.
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And you look at the way Gloria Steinem wrote the feminist mystique.
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It was, I feel as if I'm in an open-air prison, being a stay-at-home mom, barefoot and pregnant, basically, being in the kitchen.
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And it started this whole push, which is where we are the same as men.
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And that's the problem of third wave feminism is that it ties with the trans movement is they don't believe there's any sort of biological differences between men and women, which we all agree is insane, right?
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That men and women are made completely differently.
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And, yeah, I think it's a, I think it's an intellectual and ideological cancer that needs to be crushed.
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And I think deep down, most people don't even believe it.
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And the draft argument actually, I think, really draws that out.
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But when it comes down to it, most American women are okay sending men to war, which you should be, by the way.
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Do you young ladies, like if you feel like you say, I'd like to marry and be a stay-at-home mom and not work, if any of you would say that, I don't know.
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Do you feel like other people would shame you that you get more social clout by saying something else?
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I think it's praised right now to be a stay-at-home mom.
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Before we do move on, I'm not going to allow you guys to weasel your way out of Charlie's question here.
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So just a show of hands, who of you guys said you were feminists?
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So both of you said you're feminists, but you also said you're non-favor of women being subject to military conscription.
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It occurs to me that feminism, in the most, I guess, generous definition I could give it, is a movement towards equality.
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It's not, that's not honestly the definition I would give it, but to be charitable, I'll give it that.
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Cook, I'm a fan, but stop that corporate nice Christian boy facade.
00:50:14.920
America is on its last leg being overrun by illegals and degenerates.
00:50:40.760
Those of you who consider yourself feminist, how do you reconcile being a feminist, being for equality, but also not being in favor of women being subject to forced military conscription the same way that men are?
00:50:55.060
Um, because feminism isn't just feminism, as in if you're a feminist, you have to agree with every single thought and every single idea that every feminist pushes forward, like the draft, for example.
00:51:08.660
It's not clear to me if that's a feminist, like, specifically a feminist position.
00:51:15.060
Well, then if I'm not a feminist under your eyes, then that's fine.
00:51:18.800
Would you acknowledge, though, that that would be a pure equality between men and women?
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So, you're not in favor of equality when it doesn't stand to benefit women?
00:51:29.520
Yeah, but again, I never pushed for 100% equality within feminism.
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So, you only want the equality that benefits women?
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Are you guys then okay when you find out that women might earn less in the workforce than men?
00:51:53.920
If women are doing the same exact job and producing the same exact amount, quantity, and quality of work, I think they should be paid the same.
00:52:06.720
Yeah, the law, you can't discriminate based on sex.
00:52:10.040
But usually, there's a lot of other factors, such as where you went to school, what you studied.
00:52:13.600
So, yeah, I'm just trying to flush out the consistency or lack thereof here.
00:52:25.300
So, I think the new wave feminism, if they're talking about, hey, women are better than men, that's like the dumbest thing that you can ever say.
00:52:34.060
I think women complement men, which goes back to your draft concept.
00:52:40.740
Well, I'd like to ask you another question here.
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Do you think women should be barred from volunteering for the military?
00:52:48.440
They shouldn't be barred from volunteering, but they should be barred from being forced into conscription, despite men being forced into potential conscription.
00:53:01.940
Well, why would you, if you're fine with women volunteering, why would you object to women being forced?
00:53:07.160
I feel like we made so many points on why women shouldn't be in war.
00:53:15.560
Like, for example, a woman being sent out to war.
00:53:21.520
If we send half women, half men to war, and we lose an incredible amount of population, what would it be of the country and our workforce?
00:53:28.040
Well, let's assume, women are the ones that are able to have one child at a time.
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Some occasions, two, three, you have twins, triplets, whatever.
00:53:36.480
But one man can produce how many kids in a year?
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One man can repopulate a population so much quicker than a woman can.
00:53:42.460
Okay, well, let's assume the conflict we get involved in is similar to Vietnam, where it's not like we're drafting, like, huge swaths of the U.S. population.
00:53:53.520
But I think the United States military conscripted two million service personnel throughout the course of Vietnam War.
00:54:02.740
So, I mean, if we'd lost, you know, a million from a population perspective, I don't think it would be catastrophic.
00:54:11.740
But, again, those one million women aren't just one million women randomly.
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They're occupying special type of forces, like, for example, teachers.
00:54:19.840
How many teachers would we lose because of that?
00:54:25.820
They're in the middle of doing OnlyFans or college or something.
00:54:30.160
All of Isla Vista would end up being the Marines.
00:54:41.100
Get rid of those silly Australian headbands twins.
00:54:44.560
I have been to Australia and all their women are like them.
00:54:50.260
Charlie Cook looks like he's battling Metro Man.
00:55:13.360
So, if you are with your boyfriend or husband and there's a home intruder in the house, who,
00:55:18.860
who would you expect your husband to put himself first into that situation to take care of it?
00:55:28.920
I mean, I know my husband and I have had this conversation multiple times.
00:55:31.020
I mean, we have multiple guns in the house and he's told me, he's like, go hide in the bathroom and hide in the closet.
00:55:38.660
I mean, and I, I know where the guns are and I know how to use them just in case he dies for some reason.
00:55:45.500
Or I can, you know, shoot and hopefully scare somebody away.
00:55:49.580
I think you were maybe in the middle of making a point.
00:55:57.200
Well, you were saying how, like, one million women dying doesn't really hurt society.
00:56:00.720
And I was saying that it does because women have a higher amount of, like, in certain roles, like, for example.
00:56:09.100
I'm saying, like, a lot of women's jobs are already majorly women.
00:56:12.640
Right, but I was arguing your point about, like, you're making this point of, well, if all the women go and die to war, how are we going to repopulate?
00:56:19.580
But, like, I'm not, I don't think any conflict would reduce the female population to such a degree that it would, like, have some catastrophic, if they were drafted front line, whatever.
00:56:33.920
It'd actually probably be good for the population if women got drafted because here's what happens, actually, with the volunteer force of women.
00:56:40.900
If they ever do face a deployment, a lot of these female soldiers just get pregnant to avoid having to be deployed.
00:56:49.160
So, actually, this is, wait, Charlie, this, hold on, Charlie, I think, actually, conservatives need to get on board with the female draft.
00:56:57.560
Charlie, I need you to commit on the whatever podcast here that you actually are in favor of the female draft because they get drafted, right?
00:57:03.600
We draft only women, and then they're going to get pregnant so they can avoid, you know, being deployed.
00:57:09.580
If there is a pregnancy exemption, they still allow certain pregnant women to.
00:57:17.180
How about, like, only third trimester can't get deployed?
00:57:20.560
Look, I'm just saying pregnancy jumpsuits, but they're not in the Air Force, which is just the same.
00:57:23.620
I think this could be a great talking point for the conservative party.
00:57:27.740
Let's draft the women, and then we'll fix the population problem.
00:57:33.980
We will have to ban smush-mortion, and, you know, just.
00:57:37.500
And then everyone's going to be raised in a single-parent household?
00:57:46.320
They get married to their husband who's deployed?
00:57:56.060
Don't draft women because then we can't repopulate?
00:58:01.060
Okay, what if we only draft, like, 100, or, excuse me, not 100, 1 million women?
00:58:07.100
And we can draft 1 million women and unlimited men.
00:58:09.660
Wouldn't that also not be equal under your eyes?
00:58:11.200
No, just, like, say, 1 million women, 1 million men.
00:58:16.220
And if they can prove that those 1 million women are competent and would advance the
00:58:26.620
But wouldn't you want, in a war, the people going to war.
00:58:29.860
Then why do we have women for the volunteer force, which you're in favor of?
00:58:32.620
Because I do believe that the women who are volunteering know that they can provide quite
00:58:42.260
Why would a woman volunteer if she doesn't, if she's not certain that she can provide some
00:58:47.340
Well, I mean, people volunteer for all kinds of reasons.
00:58:52.820
There's, perhaps they're coming from a, you know, very low socioeconomic position.
00:58:57.860
Getting into the military can be helpful in that way.
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But I don't think most women would put their lives on the line and have that be their number
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Just volunteering just because, like, shits and gigs.
00:59:15.600
So, I haven't really heard a compelling reason, at least from the feminist viewpoint standpoint,
00:59:22.820
But why would you want women to be drafted, is my question, as a man.
00:59:28.220
But wouldn't you want your country to, like, do good in war, not just for the sake of equality?
00:59:33.020
So, if I make that same argument about, like, the workforce, would you call that a sexist
00:59:42.300
I'm not arguing this, but the same argument you're making about, well, wouldn't you want
00:59:49.320
Couldn't you just make that argument about the volunteer force?
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You could say about policemen, fire, police officers, excuse me, firefighters, et cetera.
01:00:04.100
You don't want women, so you're trying to exclude women from other workforces, is what
01:00:08.360
Well, you said, wouldn't you want the best people?
01:00:13.340
Because, like, if we lose the war, is that not a big deal?
01:00:16.760
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, it's kind of like, you know, let's put equality to the
01:00:21.180
side in terms of the war, because the war is really going to affect all of society, not
01:00:26.220
But you could even draft women into positions of, for example, not front-line soldiers.
01:00:32.260
Yeah, and if you can prove that those women are competent, and they can do that, then
01:00:36.160
That still wouldn't really be equality, but it would be closer.
01:00:39.620
It would be closer to equality, and actually most positions in the military are not front-line
01:00:44.560
combat positions, so I wouldn't, you know, so I'm just a little confused here.
01:00:51.400
What are you confused about if we just agreed on the same point, just because I label myself
01:00:55.280
as a feminist, and I have the same opinion within this as someone who's not a feminist?
01:00:58.940
But it seems like you want equality only when it suits women.
01:01:03.120
I've made that clear that I don't want it when it just suits women.
01:01:12.800
So then you acknowledge that there's an inequality that's currently impacting men, because men
01:01:18.500
are the only sex that are required to register for the selective service.
01:01:23.280
Yeah, that's an inequality in terms of, yeah, if one sex has to go to war, then one doesn't.
01:01:26.940
So your solution then is to get rid of the draft?
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My solution to that would just be, let's not go to fucking war.
01:01:35.980
But obviously that's, exactly, but since that's not a realistic thing that the U.S. will do,
01:01:43.480
What if there's a belligerent force like China or Russia or something?
01:01:52.680
Feminism should have never been brought upon society by evil men pushing women to become
01:01:59.680
In the West now, what are women currently oppressed on?
01:02:12.560
So assuming we can't get rid of war, assuming there had to be a draft.
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Do you acknowledge the current inequality that exists?
01:02:25.780
But shouldn't you, as a feminist, be desirous of moving towards egalitarianism and equality?
01:02:37.620
What would a victory for the feminist movement look like or your view of feminism?
01:02:46.040
Or what is an injustice or something wrong in America that you would like to see remedied
01:02:57.340
I work in the healthcare field and I see a lot of inequality within that.
01:03:01.120
So that's one way where I'm a feminist where I can see, okay, women aren't being treated
01:03:04.840
the best way within the healthcare field specifically.
01:03:07.340
They don't have the same rights as a man does specifically.
01:03:18.500
A man as a patient versus a woman as a patient.
01:03:27.160
Isn't it the case that women use, like see doctors more frequently?
01:03:31.780
They get more, they're more likely to go visit a doctor.
01:03:34.280
Yeah, that's 100% the case, but that's because they're not getting adequate care.
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That's why they have to keep seeing new specialists, new people.
01:03:42.300
I think women just tend to care about our bodies and men only care when they're on their
01:03:48.420
Yeah, women, like for like Medi-Cal or whatever, I don't know what it's called.
01:03:53.440
The reimbursables for women are like seven to one.
01:03:59.200
But it's taken me like six months just to get a checkup.
01:04:02.940
I don't think that's because you're a woman, though.
01:04:05.680
I think that, why would it be because you're a woman?
01:04:08.580
Maybe because women's health care is harder to get.
01:04:16.240
Why would that be because you're a woman, though?
01:04:18.480
It actually might be because I have shitty health care.
01:04:20.700
It also could be because we just brought a couple million people from the third world into
01:04:25.120
That kind of creates long lines, but it's a separate issue.
01:04:29.020
Well, could you elaborate a little further on the health care thing, though?
01:04:34.440
Well, you said women have, I don't know if you said rights, like women have X that men
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So that's something I would want to see women progress.
01:04:51.760
A woman doesn't get the same adequate care from her primary doctor, from her specialist,
01:05:01.860
I see this firsthand by, I'm told about this by my coworkers, by my actual patients, by the
01:05:11.500
So you asked me for a specific example about feminism, and that's what I gave you.
01:05:15.840
Um, honestly, I'm not an expert within the health care field to be able to say, you need
01:05:22.640
But I just believe that there is something that could be done.
01:05:25.560
Do you think that women sometimes might be overemphasizing a condition that might not
01:05:33.140
I mean, yeah, possibly person to person, there's many women who could do that.
01:05:40.060
No, if, because the survey you're citing is that women think they're not getting the
01:05:45.140
care that they deserve when I think they actually are, and then, then some, but you're right.
01:05:50.320
Men will not go to the doctor unless there's, they're missing a limb where a woman will call
01:05:54.800
their doctor as soon as they have a sniffle or a sneeze or a cough.
01:05:58.200
And so they're, they engage in the health care system more often.
01:06:01.580
So when you have more interactions and more touch points, you'll have more people who think
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that there's an injustice when there really isn't.
01:06:10.640
And do you also, you, you, well, actually here, we'll come back to that a little bit.
01:06:14.600
I did also want to get an answer from you really quick on the draft thing, then we'll
01:06:19.120
Uh, you said you're a feminist, but not in favor of women being, uh, drafted.
01:06:26.200
I mean, I think that there should definitely, I think there should be definitely things that
01:06:32.000
are more, or I guess not more important, but like, I'm more for like, if, uh, me,
01:06:39.800
if I'm working a job in the lab and the man is working a job in the same lab, we're doing
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the same things and we should be getting equal pay.
01:06:58.300
Then they would probably recognize the hard work that they're doing.
01:07:05.020
I mean, I think it would depend on like your lab position and like how high you are.
01:07:09.900
Do you want, do you want it to be based on merit or just equality no matter what?
01:07:18.100
I mean, I guess like if you are working harder than I feel like you should get paid more regardless
01:07:24.340
So men are more likely to show up early at work.
01:07:27.040
They're more likely to not take seven to 10 years off for having a child, whether you
01:07:35.900
They're also more likely to get their boss to notice their hard work.
01:07:39.900
So maybe it's not that women are getting paid less than men.
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Maybe just men are better at working the corporate system than women.
01:07:46.520
Well, then if that's the case, then I guess that's something we need to work on.
01:07:53.560
Well, you didn't really answer the question, but you did bring up the wage gap there a little
01:07:57.260
So the question was about the draft though, because you said you were a feminist, but you're
01:08:01.380
not in favor of women being conscripted into military, forced military conscription.
01:08:09.060
Well, I think they brought up a good point about how like biologically women are not
01:08:19.880
And I don't understand like, or I guess like they do bring up a point, like how would it
01:08:24.540
benefit like the United States if we're putting more women onto like the military, if we're
01:08:33.300
not putting like the strongest like people out?
01:08:35.840
Well, if they're not benefiting, then why would we allow women to volunteer?
01:08:42.120
I mean, but that's like what, I mean, that's what they want to do with their time.
01:08:52.680
Do you guys think the military would be better if women weren't in it?
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If it was just men, hardcore men that want to win for the country?
01:09:03.280
Do you think the American military was a better fighting force when women were not in it?
01:09:08.700
I think they're a lot more aggressive, a lot more assertive.
01:09:12.280
I mean, there's, I don't want to sound like I'm hating on women, but I just think guys
01:09:18.920
when they're, especially in a war, I mean, they're out there that they're wanting to be
01:09:29.380
So would the U.S. military be better if it was just men?
01:09:33.960
Yes, and I say this for a group of women who know female nature very well.
01:09:39.460
If you're trying to create a fighting force to defeat the Russians, defeat the Chinese,
01:09:44.820
But if you want a good military, should women be in the military at all?
01:09:50.000
If you want the best military, not an equal one.
01:10:02.080
Not private investigators, because women are the best at finding out that your boyfriend's
01:10:10.820
We're talking about storming Normandy, defeating the Nazis, winning a war.
01:10:20.160
They actually had women in the military in the Soviet Union, but that's a separate issue.
01:10:35.460
But also, make sure that every single man that is in there also is up to par.
01:10:41.200
Yeah, I think if the men are really passionate about it, then no women.
01:10:47.380
I don't want a world where people are barred from much.
01:10:56.420
I don't know if you guys even remember the question.
01:11:04.800
I want to come back to what you said really quick here.
01:11:08.020
When I asked you the question, you brought up the wage gap, like equal pay for equal work
01:11:14.700
Do you think that that should also apply to like police officers?
01:11:36.540
For our two Australian friends, can I ask a question for you?
01:11:39.460
Do you think men OnlyFans models should make the same as female OnlyFans models?
01:11:57.660
Online presenting yourself earn fractional what women earn.
01:12:04.740
I mean, I've always been told like the gay people actually get a lot of subscribers.
01:12:14.440
Me and Charlie are going to open up an OF account and we're going to see...
01:12:21.340
For example, the best paid male model in the world makes about three million bucks a year.
01:12:25.720
The best paid female model is like 35 to 40 million dollars a year.
01:12:31.360
It's like a 10X and it's almost across all disciplines.
01:12:35.600
And so, in OnlyFans, I imagine this would be the case.
01:12:38.760
I mean, for example, I'm not a fan of pornography at all.
01:12:41.060
I write about it in the book, how I'm not a fan of it.
01:12:42.900
However, in online pornography, female actresses earn way more than male actresses.
01:12:57.740
So, I guess for my two Australian friends, if you...
01:13:01.640
Do you think that there should be a law that says that you should earn the same as your
01:13:11.860
Show the panel the opening scene of saving private Ryan and see who would still believe
01:13:19.480
Communism is of the devil and destroys the human which breaks society.
01:13:33.600
Like, it's up to you how much money you earn by how much you are posting on your...
01:13:42.260
And trying to find the right niche and everything for yourself.
01:13:45.740
So, therefore, if there was a law generally in America where it says that women should be
01:13:59.200
See, you're both in an industry where women earn way more than men.
01:14:05.380
Because progress is easy to support until it hits your bank account.
01:14:32.880
So, how come the man just doesn't set his own price equal to the woman's?
01:14:42.980
So, if the law gets passed, they would still make more than the man because they have more
01:14:50.820
But in the abstract, it would say that equal work for equal pay.
01:14:54.280
That's literally what they just marched in the streets for.
01:14:56.300
So, your question is not so much as getting paid by the same rate pay, but you're saying
01:15:03.940
So, let's say there was a company that employs OnlyFans models, and then they take a cut
01:15:10.220
And they employ male and female OnlyFan models, and they both work 10 hours a day.
01:15:15.160
The female OnlyFan models will earn a million dollars a year for the company, and the males
01:15:20.460
will only bring in $100,000 a year for the company.
01:15:23.320
Should they have to pay both of them the same because it's equal work for equal pay?
01:15:29.260
Or should they give more money to who's actually bringing money to the door?
01:15:47.260
That women should be able to earn what they earn, and they provide in the OnlyFans model.
01:15:53.400
That's a separate issue we'll talk about later.
01:15:56.040
However, how is that any different in a corporate environment when men are more likely to travel
01:16:02.860
They're more likely to go make the second or third call for a promotion or a raise?
01:16:07.020
So the equal pay for equal work movement kind of falls apart when it comes down to online
01:16:14.440
Honestly, I don't think like, I think it should be fair.
01:16:23.580
I think it should be fair between like how much they earn, but it is actually up to like
01:16:30.100
how much you want to earn by the amount of posting you're doing.
01:16:33.860
If you're not posting anything, you're not going to make just as much as that girl that
01:16:44.520
She posts more than me, and like she makes more than me.
01:16:54.760
So shouldn't we structure all of society that way?
01:17:01.660
Let's say I work two hours a day, Imogen's working eight hours a day doing TikTok reels and
01:17:05.520
all of that stuff, like making content for the OF wall and everything.
01:17:08.480
She's earning more than me, but then I'm being like lazy and I'm laying back.
01:17:14.520
You're making an argument for market-based capitalism pretty well.
01:17:20.480
If like, if he was to work just as much as Imogen doing eight hours a day, then he should
01:17:32.380
And if he falls short and he ends up earning half?
01:17:35.820
Then just work harder because she's been working harder.
01:17:38.620
So when, if you look at a big company like Apple and I tell you that the female engineers
01:17:43.200
earn less than the male engineers, just let it happen, right?
01:18:10.780
You're saying, well, should be paid equally in, uh, you know, if you're doing the same
01:18:17.160
So you're, you're, and do you believe that there is a gender wage gap since you brought
01:18:24.060
I mean, that's what we've been like taught in school.
01:18:30.660
So, um, shoot, I missed my notes on the specific thing with the wage gap.
01:18:38.020
Uh, this is kind of an interesting stat that we found out recently.
01:18:41.300
So what are your thoughts on, for example, they actually found that Asian women out earn
01:18:58.400
So median weekly earnings of full-time workers, white men versus Asian women.
01:19:03.140
So you have white men, Asian women there recently.
01:19:05.480
Just the Asian women, you're got, you guys are killing it.
01:19:22.900
But is, so is this perhaps evidence of Asian women oppressing white men?
01:19:31.880
I think Asian women are oppressing white, I'm kidding, men.
01:19:46.200
So, you know, when it comes to basketball, soccer, there's been a bunch of articles on
01:19:51.260
Do you think that, uh, women in sports should be paid the same as the men in sports?
01:19:56.040
So, like, men's basketball, women's basketball.
01:20:01.960
I mean, I think that generally the men's sports are watched more.
01:20:06.520
So, I think it would make sense that they would get paid more.
01:20:09.000
Because they have more, like, views and sponsorships.
01:20:15.300
Any object, anyone object to the differential payment, though, in sports?
01:20:25.780
Female, female basketball player, should he, should be paid the same as male basketball
01:20:31.540
You're talking about pro sports, not like the Title IX stuff in colleges and, like, spending
01:20:37.520
Let's say, like, where I grew up in San Antonio.
01:20:49.220
And by the way, JSR, I'll just quickly adjust your message that came through.
01:20:53.280
By the way, I've just paused them temporarily really quick just to get through a few things.
01:20:58.460
JSR, yes, the scene from Saving Private Ryan, absolutely excellent.
01:21:07.660
It kind of shows the just savagery and brutality of warfare.
01:21:20.640
Charlie, I've got to push back here against you a little bit here.
01:21:23.920
I'm actually, so I'm in favor, Charlie, of women being drafted.
01:21:30.280
First off, actually, that just occurred to me, the whole, like, well, then they would just get pregnant.
01:21:35.480
You know, they'd just go and get pregnant to avoid deployment.
01:21:42.300
And then also, you know, I say frontline combat, too.
01:21:50.320
Then when the men come in, like, soften up the enemy.
01:21:54.500
And then, like, you know, they, like, soften them up.
01:21:56.740
And then, like, the guys can come in and, like, finish the job, you know?
01:22:05.240
But, like, throw them in, soften them up a little bit.
01:22:30.020
Just really quick, is everybody in favor of capitalism, or would you prefer some other?
01:22:34.720
I mean, it creates, like, problems, like the overusage of adult content, for example.
01:22:45.060
So, there wouldn't be no OnlyFans if we were, like, communist or whatever?
01:22:51.980
There's probably still going to be, like, some runaround.
01:22:54.160
But, I mean, no, that doesn't mean, that, no, one doesn't negate the other.
01:22:59.760
So, in favor of, I don't know why I wrote this down, but I have, okay.
01:23:04.800
In favor of capitalism, or do you prefer, would you prefer, like, socialism, communism?
01:23:13.760
But, I also, that's the only option we have at the moment.
01:23:16.580
I'm not for socialists or communism or any of that.
01:23:19.960
So, you acknowledge that there's issues within capitalism, but despite those issues, it is
01:23:32.800
So, if, let's say we were communist, you would not be able to, if it was a, like, you
01:23:38.240
wouldn't be able to, like, dye your hair blonde if it was communist.
01:24:08.360
Or, like, I'm just saying, like, why do you bring up me being blonde?
01:24:11.760
Well, he was making a tongue-in-cheek point of saying that in communism, it's for
01:24:19.640
So, you can get stupid and arbitrary rules like that.
01:24:37.020
I think total unfettered capitalism is a little brutal.
01:24:40.240
That's why we have, you know, antitrust laws and some things to regulate when it's completely
01:24:47.420
I'm gonna get it wrong, but there's somebody famous who said it's a terrible system, but
01:24:56.940
I want to come back to that clip we saw, because we didn't really get a full reaction to it.
01:25:00.560
Then we have a couple of other things we need to react to.
01:25:04.280
We're just letting a few of these come in, and I'm gonna let...
01:25:12.560
By the way, guys, Charlie's book, Right Wing Revolution.
01:25:20.700
Bangs Jr., there are more women than men doctors in primary care, and there is a specialty exclusively
01:25:47.940
We're not gonna debate it, at least now anyways.
01:25:50.140
Do you think that part of your position on that has to do with abortion rights?
01:25:56.360
Okay, we can, I'll write that down, perhaps if time permitting, we'll get to that in a bit.
01:26:04.000
Sorry, guys, a couple of these chats are coming in.
01:26:06.040
I'm gonna read them, and then we'll get back to the reaction to that clip that we pulled up.
01:26:10.260
Kirk, can you make the same argument about equal pay about any other institution but only fans?
01:26:21.620
And there are also more female nurses than male nurses.
01:26:26.320
There's also more women that are OBGYNs than men.
01:26:33.960
I'm extremely disappointed that nobody on the panel knows what real feminism is.
01:26:38.040
An extreme short feminism is the destruction of the nuclear family.
01:26:47.780
By the way, if you can, just scoot into the table a little bit.
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I'm going to pause it just temporarily just to get through our next couple things,
01:27:00.120
So going back, if you guys recall that clip that we were looking at,
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so you guys all remember essentially she's this kind of more liberal, progressive woman
01:27:09.180
who's like upset that she can't find, at least among the men that she wants to date that match her values
01:27:16.460
and match her progressive, liberal, feminist values.
01:27:19.980
She doesn't get the traditional treatment from those guys.
01:27:26.640
And also, do you think liberal women deserve chivalrous treatment?
01:27:35.980
I'll just ask you, do you think liberal women deserve chivalrous treatment?
01:27:55.880
So, okay, do you think liberal women deserve...
01:27:59.580
The guy opening the car door, paying for the first date.
01:28:01.740
Walking next to, on the left side of you on the street instead of the right side,
01:28:07.820
so he's walking closer to the car in case something happens.
01:28:12.040
So do you think liberal women, because chivalrous treatment,
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but it's not clear to me if liberal, progressive women are traditional women?
01:28:33.620
Do you think non-traditional women are deserving of traditional treatment
01:28:51.460
I mean, I don't think it's for me to say what people deserve and don't deserve,
01:28:55.180
but I do think that if you're dating liberal men,
01:28:58.680
you're less likely to get the sort of traditional types of things.
01:29:03.020
where women have even more power and money per capita than here,
01:29:09.660
I'll just get your guys' answers again, if you already answered it.
01:29:13.040
Do you think liberal women deserve chivalrous treatment?
01:29:20.720
Because you consider yourself progressive, right?
01:29:24.960
Yeah, I'm not like hardcore liberal, but I'm progressive,
01:29:27.400
and I don't see a reason to ever date someone who wouldn't give me chivalry.
01:29:33.240
I think every woman deserves the wonderful experience of a man courting her
01:29:39.660
and treating her well and respectful, da-da-da.
01:29:54.340
Yeah, I think women, or liberal women, do deserve that.
01:30:02.760
I think ladies deserve to be treated like ladies, and not all women are ladies.
01:30:09.220
Let's say I think everybody deserves the experience of at least once having a chivalrous guy.
01:30:14.960
I don't believe that all women want the chivalry, especially the more progressive feminist.
01:30:26.460
I mean, you don't always get what you deserve in life.
01:30:28.760
But, yes, every woman should be treated the same, regardless of their political views.
01:30:32.580
But if you are a progressive and you go out of your way to go, you know, date femboys,
01:30:36.720
then don't be surprised when they can't even hold the door when they open it.
01:30:42.180
I mean, do you think the type of men that are more likely to give women that more traditional treatment,
01:30:48.460
do you think they would lean more conservative or liberal?
01:30:58.740
But the vast majority of conservative men would, at least everything I understand,
01:31:03.560
would consider it to be insane not to treat the lady with chivalry.
01:31:07.100
Because conservative, the conservative movement in general is much more understanding and appreciative
01:31:12.720
and trying to protect the natural order of male-female differences and distinctions.
01:31:23.320
I completely agree with what you said right there.
01:31:25.100
But what would you say about incels who describe themselves as part of the conservative community?
01:31:37.220
I mean, I think that it's destructive if we have a...
01:31:43.660
In the Bible, it says, God said to Adam, it's not good for man to be alone.
01:31:51.920
And by the way, women being single over 30 is also a big problem, and I talk about that.
01:31:56.140
But single men are more likely to commit crimes, more likely to go to jail, more likely to get into drugs,
01:32:00.180
more likely to be isolated and distant on society.
01:32:05.200
So if it was up to you, you wouldn't allow the incels to be a part of the...
01:32:09.500
I mean, if you believe in my value system, but if I ever confront it, I'm going to tell you,
01:32:16.840
This is actually a perfect segue into our next segment.
01:32:36.360
This is a spicy clip, but you guys can say whatever you want about me.
01:32:40.300
But it's not the full context, just so we're clear.
01:32:47.280
You're always in the news, Charlie, but you said...
01:32:50.860
I mean, and I think they're probably taking you a little bit out of context, but Arizona
01:32:54.740
I said it, but that's not the totality of the point, right?
01:33:04.560
And I said hormonal birth control messes with women's brains, which is true.
01:33:09.220
And then you faced backlash for saying women in their 30s are past their prime.
01:33:19.620
By the way, so we're going to pull up a couple of the clips.
01:33:22.600
If they exclude any additional context, you can let me know.
01:33:28.180
Or just tell us what the additional context is.
01:33:39.660
And birth control, like, really screws up female brains, by the way.
01:33:43.340
Every single one of you need to make sure that your loved ones are not on birth control.
01:33:46.660
It increases depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation.
01:33:50.040
Birth control is the number one most prescribed medication for young ladies under the age of 25.
01:33:54.760
They will give young ladies birth control for pimples, for acne, to control their moods, their period.
01:34:03.260
And it creates very angry and bitter young ladies and young women.
01:34:07.940
Then that bitterness then manifests into a political party that is the bitter party.
01:34:13.540
I mean, the Democrat Party is all about bring us your bitterness and, you know, we'll give you free stuff.
01:34:17.840
It's like we'll trade you, you know, bitterness for stuff, essentially.
01:34:26.620
To be clear, I meant hormonal birth control, to be very clear.
01:34:30.500
I think it would be interesting to at least hear from the women.
01:34:32.820
Is anybody here currently on hormonal birth control?
01:34:36.500
No, I actually hated birth control and how it made me feel.
01:34:39.480
So do you sympathize with what I was clumsily trying to say?
01:34:44.260
How did it make you, can I ask, how did it make you feel?
01:34:46.740
I was kind of confused when you mentioned, what was that you said?
01:34:51.780
What causes them to go into that political party?
01:34:55.280
But I'm more focused on how did it make you feel?
01:35:00.120
My skin was awful and I just, I didn't feel like I was aligned with my life.
01:35:16.960
I took it years past in my late 20s and I also didn't like the way it made me feel.
01:35:27.300
I used to take it when I was younger, but I didn't agree with it.
01:35:32.660
And the way it made me feel like sick, gave me a bit of acne.
01:35:37.440
And I think it's the reason why I did like come up with entremetriosis.
01:35:47.520
I'm not on birth control, but I used to be on the pill.
01:35:50.800
Personally for me, I didn't experience any side effects.
01:35:57.540
But I stopped taking it because I was just scared of the side effects that it might have.
01:36:13.060
I'd say in addition to the side effects, there's also been a couple studies that have come out
01:36:16.740
showing that women that are on hormonal birth control look at more of the beta guys.
01:36:23.840
And then once you get off of it, you're looking for more of the alpha type guy.
01:36:27.480
And I would say in my experience, I was on hormonal birth control because I had entremetriosis and PCLS.
01:36:40.240
And I am now very much with a very dominant alpha male.
01:36:46.900
Do you feel, those of you that were on birth control, that they properly informed you of the possible side effects before you went on the pill?
01:36:54.960
They didn't let you know about the spiritual side effects, which was like hanging out or getting guys who were like less of your caliber or whatever that was for you.
01:37:05.440
Because I had a similar experience of like unalignment generally.
01:37:09.720
So you felt that you were attracted to different people while you were on the pill?
01:37:14.280
I was very, it was only like a few months, but yeah.
01:37:21.120
There's an interesting study at my alma mater that they found exotic dancers made way more money when they were not on hormonal birth control because they, and they're not sure either men could sense it, like maybe smell or, or maybe, we don't know.
01:37:38.440
But it made a distinct difference in their income.
01:37:46.500
You said you had a question, though, about the second part of it, of my comment.
01:37:55.520
If you get too far in your life, in my, most young ladies deep down want to find a partner.
01:38:02.500
They want to get married and they want to have children.
01:38:06.000
But if you suppress that for too long, it can create a lot of bitterness.
01:38:19.200
Now he's saying, get your kids off birth control.
01:38:22.180
And praise God, they shouldn't be on birth control if they're your kids.
01:38:26.340
No Christian parent should ever allow their daughter on birth control.
01:38:31.600
That is, if your daughter's on birth control or granddaughter, get them off immediately.
01:38:40.700
I was using a filler term of hormonal birth control.
01:38:43.700
And then the next clip, I think, is the one that drew the most ire, not just from both sides.
01:38:50.100
So a better way I could have said this is that as you get older, your dating pool shrinks.
01:38:58.520
And I met my wife, Erica, when she was in her late 20s.
01:39:08.140
Because, again, no one is above criticism or reproach.
01:39:11.320
However, the essence of what I said is 100% true.
01:39:14.680
Is that you can kind of sometimes, you know, stumble over your words.
01:39:23.020
We basically told a great generation of young women, don't get married.
01:39:33.040
And then in their early 30s, they get really upset because they say, you know, the boys don't
01:39:37.480
want to date me anymore because they're not at their prime.
01:39:43.560
It's like you're not as attractive in the dating pool as you were in the early 20s.
01:39:46.520
But, again, you have your corporate job in Cats.
01:39:56.960
Anyways, your reaction to the clip starting with you.
01:40:08.920
No, I really don't have anything to say about that.
01:40:11.140
But, I mean, yeah, the dating pool does shrink.
01:40:19.980
I also don't really feel like I have to make a comment on that.
01:40:33.500
Again, I lean toward a world in which people can do what they want.
01:40:45.600
I thought when you told me you were going to play my tapes, Brian, I was going to get
01:40:48.800
screamed at and people were going to throw stuff.
01:40:50.680
I guess I'm not as controversial as I thought I was.
01:40:58.160
We don't have to answer now, but I do have a question.
01:40:59.900
If you want to make it cooler culturally for young women to want to be mothers and be
01:41:05.620
married and anti-Steinham stuff, then there's got to be a long-term plan, right, to change
01:41:12.140
Yeah, and that's part of what I'm trying to do.
01:41:13.880
I'm first trying to live what I believe and build a family, because I think that's important.
01:41:18.240
Then I'm also trying to advocate this in a culture where it's not always celebrated.
01:41:23.200
And I would love to just really go quickly around the corner, super quick.
01:41:25.980
If you had to choose between, if you could only pick one, marriage or career, which
01:41:35.560
So is it, so great, amazing career or beautiful, healthy family?
01:41:42.480
Now, you can have both in life, but if you could only pick one.
01:41:57.860
So I actually want to back him up on, you know, you're not really in your prime once
01:42:16.520
But yeah, once I divorced him after I turned 30, the dating pool was vastly smaller.
01:42:29.280
No, and I just, the last question I'll ask is, I want you to think about it.
01:42:31.940
If everyone, when you said marriage, are you making deliberate steps every day to get
01:42:37.680
Or are you making steps to get closer to the career goal?
01:42:42.580
Because I believe that in a marriage, since it is, you're coming together as a contractual
01:42:51.460
agreement, I do want to provide, to a certain extent, just in case my husband can't, I am
01:43:02.740
No, and I only ask just, and again, you don't have to go, we don't have to go on the horn.
01:43:06.000
I think it's important, though, to answer your question.
01:43:08.080
Far too often, we do not tell young ladies, if you have to prioritize one more than the
01:43:13.620
other, would you rather have your tombstone say, CEO of a shoe company, or loving mother
01:43:22.460
And if you would, and if you would rather have loving mother and, you know, of three
01:43:26.420
children and a wife, then you should prioritize that more in your early 20s than your career
01:43:32.640
Because the tragedy is, there are far more single, early 30-something women in this country
01:43:38.360
than married 30-something women in this country.
01:43:41.380
The fertility rate's the lowest ever been, marriage rate's the lowest ever been, and
01:43:44.720
it's because we tell young ladies, you can wait forever to do this, and that's not the
01:43:50.300
It's the case for some people, but not the case for everybody, and I think it's a tragedy.
01:43:56.460
I think while even you have a family, you should...
01:43:59.160
Even when you have a family, you should still have, like, what happens when the kids are
01:44:04.080
done, and they graduate, and they move on out of the nest?
01:44:09.860
Well, that's assuming that your children want to.
01:44:14.560
We should say, focus on family formation in your early 20s, then go to college in your
01:44:33.340
But I feel like we also have to acknowledge the fact that one of the reasons why so many
01:44:37.680
women don't want to prioritize marriage right now, just straight out of, you're 18, let's
01:44:42.420
work on getting married and having kids and then think about college, is because college
01:44:46.480
gives you so many opportunities that, like, you can focus and work on that directly.
01:44:51.060
You come out of college, you have all these open doors.
01:44:53.440
Whereas if you're 18 and you decide not to go to college because you want to prioritize
01:44:57.440
a marriage, that can go wrong in so many other ways where you have no backup plan.
01:45:02.220
Now you're 25 making minimum wage so much farther behind towards a marriage than the
01:45:08.000
woman who already graduated college who has financial stability to be able to have kids
01:45:21.960
The problem right now, as it is, because the problem you're talking about was the problem
01:45:25.820
in the 1960s, which is what Gloria Steinman said.
01:45:28.000
If my husband left, I would have no way to feed myself.
01:45:32.360
Like, if my husband left, I would be having to go to get food stamps because I have no
01:45:38.100
Which, by the way, is, like, the most important thing ever, being a stay-at-home mom, but that's
01:45:42.420
But right now in America, we've gone to the other extreme, which is you could delay it.
01:45:48.580
And we have 15 to 20 million single women in the country that have great careers.
01:45:56.300
And I feel like another reason why a woman right now, it's so hard for them to just prioritize
01:46:00.160
having kids is because if you haven't gone to college, got the education, you don't
01:46:03.600
have a husband who also is very financially stable, who is going to provide for those
01:46:15.820
First of all, if you get married, by definition, your costs go down because you have two people
01:46:24.020
But studies actually show men earn more as soon as they get married and have children.
01:46:28.080
Children, something primal kicks into us where we take a second job.
01:46:37.540
Men, as long as we feel appreciated, we feel noticed, and we feel special, and we see our
01:46:42.660
role and our purpose, we will go to the ends of the earth to feed our family.
01:46:48.720
We say, oh, you know, I wait until I'm 27 or 28.
01:46:54.540
And the cost is, right now, just as we're clear, we are on pace 10 years out from now,
01:47:00.000
we're going to have 20 million 40-something women that never got married or have kids,
01:47:04.860
but they have big apartments and they go on lots of vacations.
01:47:08.420
And I also think that's one of the reasons we're seeing the suicide rate, the anxiety
01:47:12.180
problems, the depression problems in our country.
01:47:15.320
I just feel like how many people that are like, or how many males that are 20 are like
01:47:20.160
ready to get married and like ready to have a family?
01:47:27.820
But in the 1950s or 1960s, the time we're supposed to hate, young ladies looked at, it was my
01:47:36.400
And it was like the most important thing for them.
01:47:39.600
Some people would say that it was handcuffs and, you know, being in prison.
01:47:43.460
But if young ladies, first and foremost, no offense to my two Australian friends, got
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off of OnlyFans and stopped, you know, posting naked pictures of themselves online and made
01:47:52.180
themselves harder to get, men would step up to the plate.
01:47:56.640
One of the reasons why men are grown infants is because women are so easy to get right now
01:48:04.020
So you can be a grown infant and you can get sex.
01:48:06.700
When it used to be in 1950s, women would be like, I'm not giving myself over to you.
01:48:12.940
You don't even, you have nothing going for you when now, unfortunately, you can pay 10
01:48:20.880
Well, actually kind of offensive, but that's a separate issue.
01:48:27.380
But to my OnlyFans friends here, do you think that, do you both want to get married, right,
01:48:34.520
Do you think that you are more desirable or less desirable to a future husband when you post
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I think that we're entitled just as much as other people.
01:48:47.580
Are you more, are you more desirable or less desirable for a man?
01:48:53.600
Like, I've always like received love the same way, and that's pretty shit.
01:49:01.000
They all looked at me the same from the beginning.
01:49:05.640
Because, like, when I talk to them, like, I usually feel head over heels for them, and
01:49:12.340
So whether or not I'm doing OnlyFans and selling my body or not doing OnlyFans and selling my
01:49:27.380
Then how could you know they're telling the truth?
01:49:34.540
I'd say a lot of the guys that I know are more, I guess, the higher value type guys.
01:49:43.660
Some people actually do want OnlyFans women and want to marry OnlyFans women and have kids
01:49:51.460
Do you think those men are virtuous, high-quality men that won't cheat on you?
01:50:01.460
It doesn't sound like it, but it's actually really normalized in my area.
01:50:07.900
No, the fact that it's normalized is not the point.
01:50:12.080
Is it right to post suggestive pictures of yourself online, number one?
01:50:15.980
And does it get closer to your goal of being married for the rest of your life with a soulmate
01:50:23.960
And obviously, I feel like if I was with a guy and he didn't accept my past, I wouldn't
01:50:35.060
If you met a man and he says, I'm earning two million bucks a year, would you quit OnlyFans?
01:50:40.900
If they can make as much as I can, then yes, I'll quit.
01:50:43.840
But if they're going to say, like, stop doing it, but they're not doing anything with their
01:50:54.280
Would you agree it's just purely financial for you?
01:50:58.180
Do you think that you have more to offer to the world than your body?
01:51:06.180
Because you chose, but I know, but don't you think you're...
01:51:08.280
I mean, we have more to offer, but we also want to be able to travel and explore.
01:51:16.460
A free life where we can travel, like live our life, like young.
01:51:21.760
And the cost for you is that your body will now be shared by tens of thousands of people,
01:51:28.880
But don't you feel a little bit of sadness that you wish that your body would just be
01:51:33.400
sold with your future, shared with your future soulmate?
01:51:37.220
And then like, I feel like men actually changed me and turned me into this person.
01:51:53.980
But I feel like if a man wants to be with me and love me for who I am, then so be it.
01:51:58.380
But if they're going to judge me for what my work is and what I do, then I'm not going
01:52:06.920
I'm just, do you think the type of man you want, I imagine, is one that tells the truth
01:52:14.240
That pool of men that you eventually want to have a family with, do you think they will
01:52:25.160
I could tell you as a man that we look so lowly on only fangirls.
01:52:41.520
It is factual that the average Western male looks at only fans no different than an escort
01:52:52.960
I think you're both victims caught up in this terrible trend.
01:52:56.380
I just want to ask you, have you thought deeply about how this might get you further
01:53:05.860
When I first started it, I was like, this comes with consequences, though.
01:53:10.400
So, like, I obviously thought about it and was like, but I'm taking, I'm going to do
01:53:14.860
this, and obviously it's going to be harder to find a guy to marry, but I'm taking that
01:53:19.040
Yeah, I've always thought about just taking the risk, and I've always been, like, a risk
01:53:22.900
I don't really care about what anyone else thinks.
01:53:25.080
Like, that's up to you and what you think, but if I think that I can get somewhere by it,
01:53:41.820
So, if you were to have children, and you were to go to your first grader's career day,
01:53:47.340
and you were to present to a bunch of first graders, how would you describe what you do
01:53:52.260
Well, I don't think that I'll still be doing OnlyFans when I do have kids.
01:53:56.460
I feel like that's something that I would stop before I did have kids.
01:53:59.740
Just so, like, it's not like, obviously, like, the internet is always going to be there.
01:54:04.180
Yeah, but I feel like it's something that I would stop before I did have children, kind
01:54:08.740
Can I ask approximately, I have no idea, how much money do you earn annually?
01:54:14.660
So, in the last six months, I've earned over $115,000.
01:54:26.460
You can buy, like, a croissant or something with that.
01:54:37.220
So, you're projected to have, like, over $150,000, $180,000 by next year?
01:54:48.760
No, I just want to make sure everybody watching and you guys all think deeply about that and
01:54:54.300
how men view, not just OnlyFans culture, but you all said marriage, and some of you said
01:54:59.260
marriage and kids is the most important thing, but far too often our actions and what we do
01:55:03.860
every day is actually not getting us closer to our stated goal.
01:55:07.800
Well, you can say that to the subscribers, too, who subscribe to their...
01:55:11.760
Contribute to their pockets, but that's what I mean.
01:55:14.200
How can we find husbands in our 20s, in our early 20s?
01:55:18.040
I'm not in my early 20s, but how can we find husbands if they're busy subscribing to
01:55:23.520
Well, not every man is, and that's a really good question.
01:55:29.500
The first piece of advice I have for young ladies is do not post suggestive material yourself
01:55:36.860
Mystery is lacking in the West, and I know this is lost on a lot of young ladies.
01:55:41.580
They say, the more I post of myself with a bikini on the beach, the more men will like
01:55:46.260
No, I mean, the more they'll want to have sex with you, but then they'll look at you as
01:55:50.300
just a visual or a commodity, not as a future soulmate.
01:55:53.320
And the second part is, to be perfectly honest with you, religious men check a lot of the
01:56:02.740
I feel like that's one reason why I was able to find men like that.
01:56:06.420
It's because even though they weren't conservative, they still had very, very deep religious values.
01:56:15.340
So, and they were, they believed in the God, right?
01:56:20.140
They didn't necessarily like read the Bible word for word every day, but they like followed
01:56:25.320
So would you, would you say that's, if you're looking to find a man in the West and it's
01:56:29.560
your number one priority and you were given a random selection of a Catholic man or kind
01:56:35.320
of a femboy atheist, you would take the Catholic?
01:56:42.360
So how many of you are then going to church actively trying to find a man?
01:56:48.280
I also, I know, but I didn't meet any of my boyfriends in church and I feel like I
01:56:52.260
wouldn't have, if I'm going to be honest, I feel like you can meet a really religious
01:56:57.420
You just have to find where you guys both coincide.
01:57:00.200
And yeah, I got the library studying for your exams, for example.
01:57:04.300
I actually recommend to my single friends to find men in the church because I agree.
01:57:11.820
And I mean, there's, there's exceptions to every rule.
01:57:13.700
And so my advice to my two Australian friends is that if you want the thing that is the
01:57:18.980
most important thing to you, start making those decisions younger than older, because
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you might end up be filled with a lot of money and a lot of regret.
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Let me read two of these chats that we have kind of, uh, Hugo.
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Hugo, Brian Reed, I know your faith, service, and perseverance, but you tolerate that fake
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prophet Jezebel who leads my servants into sex, immorality, and idol worship.
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She refuses to repent, so I will cast her into suffering and make her followers suffer unless
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1922, uh, and then in this one, though, you said it was 1921, so, uh, thank you.
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Uh, yeah, these are the same, but Hugo, thank you, man.
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I really appreciate your chat, guys, if you want to get any, get in some, a couple chats.
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Uh, so I do want to get into our next topic here, and that topic is, we've asked this on
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the show a couple times, it went viral, uh, this conversation, not from the show, went viral.
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Uh, I think it'd be good to do it while we have Charlie here.
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Question is, would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or a random bear?
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So, the U.S. male population is like over 150 million, so just a random man.
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Well, what, what's, uh, I guess kind of your knee-jerk gut choice here?
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I think you're overthinking the question a little bit, but, so it's just random man or
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The choice is between crossing paths with a random man or a random bear?
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I was on the show, like, what was, like, a month ago?
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And we had that question, and I did answer bear.
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And I, I, I'm just going to say, I'm going to change my answer for the sake of, I don't
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You can't change your answer for the sake of not wanting to argue it.
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No, because the reason why I chose the bear last time was for the sake of the argument,
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Like, if I, a random man, the chances of it being, like, all those points I made of the
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violent, the essay, all that, the chances of that are pretty low compared to the chances
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of the bear seeing me, running after me, you know, so I don't feel like arguing for
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So, to be clear, your answer is the bear, but you just don't want to argue it because
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I said, I chose the bear on the show last time because I, I, for the sake of the argument,
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Whereas, like, right now, I'm like, why would I even do that?
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Like, the chances of it being a violent man and all those things that I had already mentioned,
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So, so I convinced you through my argumentation.
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No, the thing is, I already knew that from the start.
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Like, if you told me, if you phrased the answer, like, if you phrased the question like
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this, one of my male friends or a male I knew or a male that I've even, that is in
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IV that I know, like, you know, atmosphere here.
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So, I'm saying, I choose the man if you frame the question like this.
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By the way, don't let people's previous, like, you can't, if somebody else says man and
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you think bear, you can, don't let them pressure you into answering otherwise.
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Of course, man, but I'm curious what your reasons for bear were.
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Yeah, I don't understand why I would be with a bear, so.
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You guys are going to cross paths within five minutes, let's say.
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I think when we ask men this question, I'll frame it differently for you, Charlie.
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Would you rather your daughter be alone in the woods with a random man, totally random
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I know how vicious bears can be, and you might get a man who would be charitable.
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I just think, like, the chance of you potentially getting stuck with a man that could, like,
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like, yeah, you can get mauled by a bear, but, like, a man can, like, keep you in captivity
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Yeah, but I feel like I could probably do it myself, too.
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So, you said that there's a chance that the men could do X, right?
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So, they could, they could, you know, whatever.
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What percentage of men do you think, in this scenario, would opt to do, like, victimize
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I mean, I would say maybe hi, just because, like, even if I'm walking on the street, I'm,
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And that's wrong, but so, when you say hi, can you, like, give us a percentage?
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Okay, so 50, so, in the scenario, you think 50 percent of men would choose to attack you
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I just think, like, yeah, like a bear, you can approach the situation more calmly and
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You could, what if I told you bears run faster than humans?
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So, you think 50 percent of men are inclined to victimize you in some sort of way?
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I just would rather not be in the forest with a man.
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We have, so, so, half of us, three of us in this situation would, like, try to do something
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But, like, if it's, like, the whole population, there's probably a good amount of men that
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would want to try to do something that's not helping you get out of the forest.
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And is that percent of the population, is that 50 percent?
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Do you think it's, you go to UC Riverside, right?
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Do you think it would be 50 percent of the men at UC Riverside would do this?
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What's the population of the United, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
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If I was stuck in the forest with a man from UCR, like, I don't think they're going to help me, so.
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Yeah, like, I don't think they're going to do anything.
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Okay, so, what's the population of the United States?
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Sorry, it's been a minute since I took algebra.
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So, are you prepared to state that 85 million men in the United States would choose or opt
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Well, what you hope is kind of irrelevant here.
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I'm just trying to get clarification on if you think the number is actually that high,
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I just think it's a 50-50 chance that the person that you're stuck with is that they
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Well, okay, that's, well, you think it's a 50-50 chance that they would help you or not
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Yeah, depending on the person, there's a 50-50 chance that they will help you or not.
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But you said your fear is about being attacked.
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So, I don't, how does helping you play into this?
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Or, like, there's a 50-50 chance of them either attacking me or wanting to, like, help
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No, I think it's either he'll help you or not help you.
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And then within not help you, maybe he'll attack you.
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I mean, I feel like I've been camping enough, so I feel like I'd rather just be with a bear.
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My friend, me and my friend discussed this one time, and she chose bear.
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She genuinely thought that, like, baby bears were, like, Winnie the Pooh size, and, like,
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Brown bear, 9 feet tall, 1,300 pounds, claws up to 4 inches, bite force, 1,200 PSI, speed
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up to 35, Kyle, 5'10", ooh, 174 pounds, project engineer, said hi to you at the gym.
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So, this is kind of like, this is my views on this.
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It's just, I don't know, it's pretty interesting.
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So, I mean, Charlie, so, we've asked this question a bunch of times on the show.
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What are your thoughts on this sort of, the women picking the bear?
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Well, I'm curious, have you been victimized by men?
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Like, catcalling is, I think that's what you were alluding to before, right?
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No, I'm curious how many people give those answers have had repeated negative interactions
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But, no, I mean, there's, I mean, in America, a lot of people would think that men are out
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But, I mean, percentage-wise, you're much more likely to have a bear rip you apart than
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What are the stats on, like, is one in three, one in four women report that they've been
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That's, yeah, it's, there's a lot of rapes and sexual assaults, but that's...
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What are the stats on, I hung out with a bear and lived to tell?
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I've seen a grizzly bear up close and personal, and I've lived.
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I mean, and I'm a tall guy, and you're looking up...
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Yeah, 6'4", 6'5", and they get up, and you look up at them, and they...
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Now, you didn't specify what type of bear, though.
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But if it's a, if it's a black bear, they will not hurt you.
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But if it's a grizzly bear or a polar bear, a polar bear will hunt you.
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I thought, sorry, third, I thought brown bear is safe.
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Yes, brown is, no, it's, I said, brown is safe.
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Well, brown is a mixture of black and grizzly, but...
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Grizzly is a round face, and they'll hunt you down.
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Polar is the only animal that actively hunts humans.
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Yeah, see, if Brian would have specified polar bear that first round on that last episode,
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Polar bear, as soon as they smell your scent within, like, a 50-mile radius, they're hunting
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So if you have, if you pull a tag to hunt a polar bear, it's a two-way hunt.
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Yeah, I think everyone is under the assumption it was the other bear.
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Yeah, but the grizzly bear will leave you alone as long as you don't, like, overly provoke
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Within the past month, here in California, first ever black bear fatality, a woman...
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If you take a 22 when you're bear hunting, make sure to, like, stand off the end, because
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Bear spray is actually more effective than 99% of firearms in stopping a bear.
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That's a good little side note if you're ever backcountry hiking, because most guns
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Yeah, it's like pepper spray, but it's so irritating to the bear, it just flees the
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Yeah, it goes right up there, not in nasal cavity, and they just...
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I mean, again, the goal is not to kill the bear.
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So, you do not want to mess with a mama bear, either.
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Now, I did want to get back into some, perhaps, dating-related...
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What if he's, like, a conservative from, like, a different nation?
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But, like, if there's, like, a country where conservatives are, like...
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They're kind of less conservatives in the UK or less...
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When you hear of, like, MAGA-E Trumpy, what is...
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I, like, for one, like, it's not even just that.
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Like, is that what they would not like about you?
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Yeah, this hair tends to have a very different type of man than the Trumpy.
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But that's good, because I don't like Trumpies.
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The type of Trumpies that I grew up with, because I'm from Woodland, California, so those are, like,
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Yeah, right next to Sac, and then right between Davis, so it's, like, cow town, like, farmer's
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I think you were going to list, kind of, some of the reasons why.
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Yeah, because that's the type of man I'm envisioning.
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A racist redneck who drives his little tractor around town and raises goats for his free time.
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Yeah, well, I'm also Hispanic, and I speak Spanish, so it's, like, yeah, these men wouldn't
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There's a lot of conservatives that are, like, Latinos.
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Are there, like, immigrants for Trump, or is that...
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I wouldn't date an immigrant for Trump, either.
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Well, didn't you say that part of the reasons your relationship broke up, he, I think, if
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I recall, you said he was a bit more on the conservative side, your ex-boyfriend of three
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And I like Melania, so I'm not going to do that to her.
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I have friends who used to date him in the 90s.
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I mean, in Manhattan, everyone above a certain floor is a Trump fan.
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It must be nice living in Australia away from him.
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I don't even know what he looked like when he was young.
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I don't know much about him, so I can't really have an opinion.
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So, if the election was today, would you vote for Trump?
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Who are you going to vote for in the presidential election?
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I think perhaps some of them are a bit frightened in your presence, Charlie, to reveal their super progressive and liberal positions here.
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I did want to come back to the feminist conversation.
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I think that question has to be elaborated a little bit more.
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Well, is he anti-feminist or is he just like, oh, I don't hold political views type of guy?
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Actually, and you were gone when we asked this.
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If he's hateful and hates women, I don't want to hear it.
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Well, so you can be not a feminist, but also like women.
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I can't be anti-feminist and like woman, really.
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I mean, because anti-feminist men are saying that women shouldn't vote, that they should
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It has nothing to do with, like, you could love women.
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If they label themselves as an anti-feminist man, let's say.
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And we're going under generalization, you know.
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Do women who label themselves as feminists, do they hate men?
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There's anti-feminist women who also don't have any hate for women either.
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So what, I mean, if you had to assign a percentage, what percentage of anti-feminists do you think
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That's why I would just choose no for that man.
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I'm not sure I, I don't know if they've done a study on this, but I can't imagine that
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Let's say they do that and they promise you everything traditional, right?
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But then they say, by the way, because of the way that we've been living under the way
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things are right now, we're under the whole population thing where there's not enough workforce,
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So what if they implement a new law where they say, women have to have four kids, five kids,
02:22:25.940
And you are okay with all your daughters being forced to have six kids and their daughters
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Like, you understand that it's not just you being affected.
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Wait, you object to people being forced into something?
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I object to people being forced to have six kids.
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Yeah, but you, but okay, the current status quo is men are forced into registering for
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Because we already agreed that there has to be a draft.
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By the way, the scenario that you outlined would, I can't imagine, even, I don't even
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I don't even think historically there's ever been a law that compelled women to have children.
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Now, it could have been socially and culturally.
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I just wanted to, I just wanted to see where her mind was at.
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It's just, I wanted to see where she stood with that.
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What if we lived in a world that forced men onto the battlefield and they had to die and
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go in the trenches and get trench foot and get chemical gas?
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What if we lived in a world where men created that themselves?
02:23:41.120
Well, actually here, let me just rebut what you're saying.
02:23:44.260
So they actually did an analysis of monarchs and they actually found that, uh, queens were
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Yeah, queens were also a lot more likely to have successful empires.
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Cause why did they have, you're saying, but it's men's fault.
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If I point out something, no, I said that thing, the war thing.
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So are you arguing that women are actually outlaw of war?
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Hold on, let's assume that there were no men and there, it was just societies of women.
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You don't think like differing tribes of women, you don't think they would like engage in warfare?
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I just don't think that they would have the current draft that we have.
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Yeah, it very much is, but I don't think we'd have the current draft scenario that we have
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No, he just asked me who started war and I said men.
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I said men started war and you were arguing against that.
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So you're saying that women, if men didn't start war, then who did?
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It's not clear to me if it's because of gender that wars occur.
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Because of this, I'm going to go to war with other men because they're men.
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That's not the justification or pretext for war.
02:25:39.200
I think that the current way that we handle war and that war is, is because of men.
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The current political state, the way war is, I just feel like that's because of men.
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If you disagree and you say it's because of women, that's...
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And it's not clear to me if it's because of gender or because of sex.
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So you think, so men engage in warfare because men?
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I feel like it could be handled very much other ways than war.
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But because of the way that the war, the world already is, like, we're at a point where the only option is war.
02:26:31.900
You can't, you can't give humans war and atomic bombs and all these things and then expect them to be like, actually, let's just have peace forever and ever.
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Like, because you guys already introduced war and all these things and the current political state, we're always going to have war with the way we run things right now.
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You wanted to argue against that, so this kind of prolonged.
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Is it because of men or because of human beings?
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So if women ran the world, what would that look like?
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I honestly don't know, but a lot more peaceful than it is right now.
02:27:11.520
Do you fight more amongst other women or do you see men fight amongst other male friends?
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Honestly, the way things are handled, I see men have a lot more conflicts than women.
02:27:26.360
Do women hold grudges more or do men hold grudges more?
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Honestly, the way I see it in the world, too, men.
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Wait, you were going to say, actually, when it came to the grudges question, what was going to be your statement?
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You didn't hear what he literally just said 10 seconds ago?
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I wanted to say that there's lots of war in non-humans.
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There's very few things more violent than a mama if you come after her babies.
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So I don't think violence is the exclusive bastion of men.
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I just think because in sexually dimorphic species, ones where the male is bigger than the female, men are stronger and can do more damage.
02:28:50.080
Would the world be better run with more of a feminine approach or masculine approach?
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Because what I mean by that is men aren't just masculine forces, whereas women aren't just feminine forces.
02:29:05.420
So currently in America, is America run in a more feminine way or more masculine way right now?
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It's kind of hard because even, I feel like, if you look at most men in America right now, they have a lot more femininity than they should.
02:29:27.140
Do you think in America, feelings triumphs over reason or does reason triumph over feelings?
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I think, certainly on the internet and it's nonsense.
02:29:42.540
And that would be more feminine than it is masculine.
02:30:00.480
And maybe there's a time to be sort of a man and there's a time to be what's ascribed as more feminine, right?
02:30:07.440
When you listen to your wife, Kvetch, about stuff.
02:30:16.060
So in the traditional nuclear family, it is dad or the male's job to say no, to be the rule giver, to put in order and regimen.
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And that's not to say that mom can't, but mom is supposed to be there to be the more empathetic, compassionate.
02:30:30.060
And we see this time and time again, by the way, of boys that are raised by just moms, very, very violent in their trajectory, right?
02:30:41.480
Because they've never had a male figure to tell them no.
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Do you guys think in America right now we have a self-control problem?
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Do you think that might be because we have more homes without fathers than homes with fathers?
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Because if I can buy it, I'm going to buy everything.
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I want to buy six of these types of sweatshirts rather than just one.
02:31:12.140
We definitely do not have willpower or self-control.
02:31:15.800
It's actually the two greatest predictors of human success is intelligence and self-control.
02:31:34.600
Let's talk about something like abortion, trans.
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Is there something I can get people talking or something?
02:31:47.980
I'm going to make it dating related, but related here.
02:31:55.440
Would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?
02:32:01.400
Would I object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?
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I wouldn't object to a woman not wanting to date a trans man.
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That's his choice if he wants to date a trans man or not.
02:32:44.900
Are there other definitions of women that we should accept?
02:33:07.060
Can someone that doesn't have a uterus that has a...
02:33:15.840
However, a uterus doesn't always define a woman because, for example, you can have your
02:33:21.920
You're not any less of a woman because of that.
02:33:39.960
You're asking if gender and sex are synonyms, and that's the big debate.
02:33:43.880
If you think the word woman is a synonym for the word female, then you would say a woman
02:33:48.560
has primary and secondary sexual characteristics.
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If you're saying the words woman and female are not synonyms, then you could include trans
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people who call themselves women but don't have the first or primary or secondary characteristics.
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I mean, biologically, it's someone that has XX chromosomes.
02:34:17.600
I mean, yeah, I think there's men and women, there's not really anything in between.
02:34:21.700
I think you need to be born with uterus, vagina, boobs.
02:34:26.720
Well, intersex is more common than red hair or green eyes.
02:34:43.640
So we do have people that are not male, sort of, not female, sort of.
02:34:48.140
Right, right, but they're not choosing to be, trying to become a male.
02:34:53.340
So, for example, if I was born without a leg, that's absent of being two-legged.
02:34:58.040
It doesn't create a new category of something, right?
02:35:08.460
But sometimes they cannot have both sex organs, a.k.a. they cannot impregnate themselves.
02:35:17.280
Does anyone believe that biological men can become a woman?
02:35:25.960
I think people can call themselves unicorns at this point in time if they want to.
02:35:30.440
So if that's what they choose to say, that's what it is.
02:35:49.240
As a woman, can womanhood then just be appropriated?
02:36:01.140
So Dylan Mulvaney, who's a biological man who thinks he's a preteen woman, is he a woman?
02:36:09.120
I feel like I'm just not in the position to tell him he's not a woman.
02:36:12.540
If he says, if they say that they are a woman, I have no, you know what I mean?
02:36:23.260
So if I'm 30, if I said I was 12, would you acknowledge that?
02:36:36.880
But why is it with sex or gender, we kind of get really cautious and saying, well, I'm
02:36:41.460
not going to deny it, but if I said I was a wolf, you would laugh at me.
02:36:46.680
But with sex and gender, we're like, oh, you could be whatever you want.
02:36:50.560
Because it's, I don't know, honestly, I've been looking at it from different perspectives
02:36:57.220
Because I'm also, like I said, religious and also believe in the Bible.
02:37:02.260
But I feel like I heard this one thing on it where it was saying that it's almost like,
02:37:08.240
again, I'm not saying this is my concrete belief, but I just heard this, which kind
02:37:13.600
And they were saying how it's kind of like a mental illness.
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Like, you know, how someone could be 30 and they could truly believe they're 12.
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Like, you acknowledge that it's a mental illness and you treat the person as such.
02:37:34.380
So if somebody, you're in healthcare, came to you with, and they said, I'm anorexic.
02:37:47.140
Because that would be compromising their actual health.
02:37:49.260
But you just said that we, basically, that we have to affirm somebody's mental illness.
02:37:57.700
No, I didn't, I didn't mean to affirm their mental illness as in, except, oh, you are 12.
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I'm saying we shouldn't treat them as in, you shouldn't go up to them to the 12, the 30.
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The 30-year-old who thinks he's 12, which is a thing.
02:38:10.120
And you shouldn't, because, like, that's how people talk to trans people, right?
02:38:12.860
They'll go up to them and be like, ha, ha, you think you're a woman.
02:38:16.100
Treat them with that disrespect and all that disdain.
02:38:18.540
Whereas if you see the 30-year-old who's a 12-year-old, you don't go up to them telling them that they're 30.
02:38:28.840
So let's apply it to the trans thing, the 30-year-old, 12-year-old, and the liposuction thing.
02:38:33.540
Wouldn't it make more sense to treat the person and say, you're not what you think you are,
02:38:38.240
rather than affirming the lie that they think they're something else?
02:38:43.980
Because in the liposuction example, anorexia, you'd be like, no way would we give you forcible removal of fat if you're anorexic.
02:38:49.920
But they'll just go to the next doctor who will.
02:38:53.460
A doctor will not, under current medical procedure, give liposuction to anorexia patient.
02:38:59.700
But in trans care, a 14-year-old can get their breasts removed if they think they're another sex.
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See, and that's, that's where, like, it's really complicated.
02:39:09.400
Because it's like, if it is a mental illness, and if that, I'm not saying I 100% can't believe this,
02:39:14.160
but if that's the case, then you shouldn't, there should be a line of marker.
02:39:18.020
Because it's like, you shouldn't let someone who wants to mutilate their genitalia before their brains even develop.
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Do that if, if it is a mental illness, and it is something that's heavily messing up their brain.
02:39:31.320
And so the question is, when it comes to trans people, why don't we treat their, treat their brain instead of their body?
02:39:38.480
See, I feel like, yeah, that's a good, really good point.
02:39:42.480
But, I can't really argue against, I, I also, if my, even though I accept trans people, and I do believe that trans women exist, I'm not going to deny them.
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I don't know, you're, you're close, you're close to, you're just saying that as a, I think you're saying that as a talking point.
02:39:56.260
Listen, but if my daughter, who is 10 years old, tells me, mom, like, I want, or actually, let's make this easier.
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If it's my son that tells me, because that way he has a genitalia that could be cut off, right?
02:40:08.060
If he tells me, mom, I'm not a, I'm not a boy, I'm actually a woman, mutilate my genitalia, I wouldn't do that.
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But if they turned 18, and they asked me, mom, will you consent to me doing this?
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Like, will you disown me as a child, or are you going to accept me as your child who's a woman?
02:40:27.760
No, you're, you're being consistent, and at least you acknowledge the adult-child distinction, which is super important.
02:40:32.380
Which right now, just so we're clear, in California, as a 14-year-old, you can get your breasts chopped off, hysterectomies, like, insane, irreversible damage.
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It's great, and I totally, I think that's a bipartisan agreement.
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However, it gets back to the question of, and I don't even know if you believe it, but you're saying it, that you say trans people exist, trans people exist.
02:40:54.000
The question is, are they objectively the thing they say they are?
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Yeah, that's what it was in the DSM-3, DSM-4, and then the DSM-5, which is the Diagnostic Statistical Manual for Psychiatric Care in the United States.
02:41:15.460
But no, very, you've been intellectually honest on that.
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And I think it's not a silly question, because I'm here with a panel of women.
02:41:24.100
What it means to be a woman is a very serious thing, and it's a beautiful thing,
02:41:29.100
but it shouldn't be trivialized for somebody that can just appropriate it, wear a dress and some makeup,
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and all of a sudden they enter the club of womanhood.
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Sometimes frustrating what the most ardent ones think is womanhood, that it's just wearing pink and prancing around.
02:41:51.780
Yes, but you're complex beings made in the image of God.
02:41:58.460
It's not like dressing for Cinco de Mayo or something, right?
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It feels like they're wrapping themselves up and cosplaying womanhood in a sometimes weird way.
02:42:05.760
You brought up Dylan Mulvaney, and in his first video, it was like the day one of womanhood.
02:42:10.000
It was like, well, I cried four times and went into credit card debt.
02:42:14.700
Yes, but they do, because they think that the...
02:42:19.780
But I don't trivialize that some people that are trans are suffering.
02:42:25.240
So the question is, how do you treat suffering people with the truth?
02:42:28.840
So in a medical situation, if somebody comes in and you take their diagnosis, what they want,
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and you know that there's something better for them, then you should lose your license as a doctor.
02:42:41.560
But the issue is that the new standard of care is no longer to try to bring somebody back
02:42:48.800
It's now to try to let them on whatever journey they might think they're on.
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And especially with youth, that's a dangerous trajectory.
02:42:56.100
I'm going to switch things up a little bit here.
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We're going to do something I don't think we've really done before.
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We're going to do a little tagging in, tagging out.
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So this will only be temporary for the last about 20, 30 minutes that we have Charlie.
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Just we'll tag you back in in 30 minutes or so.
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We're going to sub people in, so you guys are going to get tagged out.
02:43:23.340
So just you guys can kick it back there for like 30 minutes.
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You can, you know, grab a slice of pizza, take a little break.
02:43:43.920
By the way, for everybody watching, is it a book plug?
02:43:55.320
Get a copy right now as we're doing the hockey change.
02:44:39.300
Something that I think could be interesting, interested about, talking about, is submissiveness.
02:44:50.680
And I'm curious, Charlie, if you kind of agree with the...
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This is kind of, I guess, the biblical order of, like, a relationship.
02:44:56.720
Nick, do you know I'm talking about that umbrella picture?
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So, going around the table, starting with you, do you think, when it comes to dating,
02:45:25.740
Yes, the wife should be submissive to the husband.
02:45:28.920
Okay, so, you got Christ, husband, wife, and you agree with...
02:45:34.140
Yes, but the key is that the husband must submit to Christ.
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That's important, is that if the husband fails to submit to Christ, then the wife no
02:45:45.140
See, I've never heard of that point when people talk about submissiveness.
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They always say you have to follow the husband as...
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The scripture says that women submit to your husbands as husbands submit to Christ.
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And so, if the husband fails to submit to Jesus on the throne, well then, again, the entire
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So, if the husband's an alcoholic, a drug addict...
02:46:05.800
Yeah, I mean, you have to use prudence, but yes, if the husband is repeatedly defying God's
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teaching or law, if he's being adulterous, if he's being abusive, then submission is violated
02:46:17.160
That doesn't mean that the husband won't sin, but if he makes a pattern and a repeated defiant
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form of action, then that would violate that graphic and that scripture.
02:46:28.560
Isn't that one of also AA's things, submit yourself to Christ?
02:46:32.840
Yeah, it's very important in AA to submit yourself to Christ.
02:46:34.720
AA is the most successful model to how to free people from addiction.
02:46:40.920
And the reason, and they've tried to replicate it, is because in AA, it is a uniquely Christian
02:46:50.000
I think when you're very down about yourself and down in your own life, it's very easy
02:46:58.040
Otherwise, it's a lot harder for other people, but when you're experiencing something like
02:47:01.240
addiction, it's a little easier to bring God into...
02:47:06.140
When you're down on yourself, it's like, oh, this is when I can accept a higher power because
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You want to be like, oh, it's a bigger power that's happening.
02:47:16.460
And it works because they realize that there is a God and it is not him.
02:47:22.660
I'm not him, essentially, so that there's a higher power.
02:47:25.620
Now, those of the three of you who we tagged in, you've heard Charlie here, you've heard
02:47:32.700
Where were you hiding this whole time, by the way?
02:47:52.440
It was more generally disagreed with the panel.
02:47:57.500
It was about the whole war talk and how men will start wars and all this because of testosterone
02:48:16.780
So it's an argument based off of class rather than gender.
02:48:20.920
That's why the queen talk comes into play as well where queens start more wars than...
02:48:27.720
But is there anything you heard Charlie say that you have any disagreed with?
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We were just arguing in the chat, but I don't remember exactly a specific point.
02:48:59.300
Just because some of these chats are going to fall off, I'm going to read like three or
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I put everything on pause, so it's just going to come in like, ladies, do not say man.
02:49:32.700
This is our chance to passively, aggressively remind men how much we hate them.
02:49:37.360
Well, men are trash, and we need to remind them of this every day.
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They look like they're boxes for me that I can't lift.
02:49:55.000
Mtay, marriage and family is really important, but what if a woman feels gay?
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To have a family, or should we try to change to not be attracted to women?
02:50:34.440
Really quick, so do you want a random man for help?
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But I think everybody here said man, so Nickelodeon.
02:50:49.080
Okay, so it's one-fifth of women are sexually assaulted, right, in the U.S.
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So statistically, we should choose man, right, if it's a random person.
02:51:11.240
That includes verbal assault, which is not the same thing.
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Do yourselves a favor and open your minds to his genius.
02:51:37.960
I'm just trying to get through all of these because a few of them are about to fall off.
02:51:43.200
I just had to pause it just to get through all of them kind of in...
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Instead of them coming in piecemeal, I wanted to just get them all out at the same time just for the sake of time.
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Say your daughter is 15-year-old, hypothetically.
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Just so happens he's a 35-year-old man that identifies as 15.
02:52:17.780
Well, it's because you said that any age can identify as any age.
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No, I said that was a mental illness, actually.
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I said there are 30-year-olds who do actually involve and actually say I'm 12, and that's a whole mental illness.
02:52:31.740
So, he says, didn't want to submit a second, but why is TTS not working?
02:52:34.820
My question was tied to the current conversation and never went through.
02:52:37.600
We had to pause it temporarily just so we could get through a couple segments here, but I just got it now.
02:52:43.480
And you submitted that just like 10 minutes ago, but thank you, man.
02:52:51.760
And, Nick, you can hide this one that's a super.
02:53:06.580
Hey, for the sake of time, I got to skip that one, man.
02:53:09.520
We only have Charlie for a limited time here, but we got the message.
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Apparently, a lot of the chat said that last stream.
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And then we just have three more coming in, and then we'll get to the question at hand.
02:53:38.640
Guys, get Charlie Kirk's book, Right Ring Revolution.
02:53:58.880
Draft for Women is all part of their depopulation agenda to find what is progressive.
02:54:06.460
Nickelodeon, you get stuck in a pattern of what you invest your time in.
02:54:09.380
If you go to college, you want the best career.
02:54:11.240
If you invest in OF, you obsess over the money, sex, and attention.
02:54:30.160
Brony Sans, this deserves a champagne pop that we put.
02:54:33.420
This deserves a champagne pop that we put JoJo on.
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By the way, panel, Charlie Kirk is going to give you signed copies of this brand new book.
02:55:10.600
I'm in the boonies, so I'll spread the word in the boonies.
02:55:20.880
If he signs a copy for you, you have to display it by your bedside for the rest of your life.
02:56:03.640
I want to thank you guys for sending all those in.
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I just wanted to make sure we got through everything.
02:56:09.560
Charlie, you wanted to talk about shmushmortion.
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Let me see if I can frame it from a dating-related.
02:56:35.060
If the chats are interrupting the conversation,
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then you need to raise the price or not advertise it.
02:56:50.980
Well, we only have a few minutes left with Charlie.
02:56:58.420
I just had to pause it just because we had to get through a whole bunch of stuff.
02:57:03.280
So would you date a guy who was pro-life, starting with you?
02:57:21.680
I mean, I think women should have the right to choose in certain situations.
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For those of you that are pro-abortion, any one of you can chime in.
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Um, it's debated, but probably around 20 to 24 weeks.
02:58:00.980
So then would you say we should allow no more abortions after 18 weeks?
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I probably would agree that maybe you shouldn't.
02:58:10.820
If you do, maybe, you know, I'll be more okay with it, but at the same time, I'd be a little weary about it.
02:58:22.060
Hold on, because some abortions late-term are kind of crazy.
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Which America has the craziest late-term abortion laws.
02:58:47.400
I think it's, but abortion is also a medical term, so it's not necessarily that someone wants
02:58:52.260
It's also a medical abortion, so you need to, because I had someone in my life who, six
02:58:58.840
months in, they were super happy about their pregnancy, and they had to have an abortion
02:59:10.980
Well, you're not really aborting a pregnancy, so it's just a...
02:59:13.260
Maybe not aborting a pregnancy, but you're still aborting.
02:59:25.980
Well, when you're thinking of abortion, you're thinking of aborting a live fetus that may
02:59:29.880
be viable to live on, but an abortion can still be a fetus that is already dead, that
02:59:37.300
you have to abort because it will rot inside of you and kill you.
02:59:42.900
No, even pro-life people, myself, are okay if the fetus is no longer living, removing
02:59:47.260
Well, that's what happened to this person that I knew.
02:59:49.420
They had to have an abortion at six months because they're...
02:59:53.100
I wouldn't say that's an abortion, but I don't want to debate that.
02:59:57.220
Like with Texas, for example, Texas law, right?
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It doesn't have to be living for it to be an abortion.
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Well, you can remove it without surgery, though.
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When you have to remove a six-month-old fetus...
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I wouldn't disagree that it requires surgery, but...
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No, because you're not actually aborting the mission.
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So then 500 years ago, how did that fetus leave the...
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The fetus would rot inside the mother, and the mother would die.
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The woman could also give birth to the dead fetus.
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That doesn't happen all the time, but that doesn't...
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That's why they call upon it to be removed, because nine times out of ten, the mother
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Do you think that if a baby can feel pain, regardless of consciousness...
03:01:29.120
But going way back to when abortion should be illegal, so you say life begins at consciousness.
03:01:53.880
Okay, so then if somebody is without consciousness after a car accident and they're on...
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So even the ones that come back to full consciousness when their brainwaves are no longer detected,
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Okay, but also I see her point because so many people are kept alive by their family members who are grieving.
03:02:29.660
Their bodies are kept physically alive by their families that are grieving.
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And I'm talking about for years and you're the families that can afford it, right?
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But also a physically developing fetus is not the same as a full-grown human that's already alive.
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That's why we differentiate a fetus from a human.
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Which could be as early as six weeks, 12 weeks.
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If we have data that shows six weeks, you'd be cool with cutting it off.
03:03:12.520
Yeah, if we could see six weeks that you had mental consciousness that you could experience life and form memories, but at six weeks you can't.
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So, yeah, but if a baby can feel pain and have a heartbeat, you're okay with that?
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I don't care about a heartbeat in any capacity.
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Because if I'm brain dead and I'm laying in a hospital bed and I have a heartbeat and my brain is dead, you're going to pull the plug.
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Do you think that a human being is more than brain waves?
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Does anyone else think human beings have souls?
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No, I believe you have a soul, but your soul connects to your brain.
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So, you think soul, brain, and mind are all one thing, right?
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So, I believe that soul happens as soon as creation happens.
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So, then if you are terminating a baby prior to brainwaves, you're still terminating a soul.
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When you die, if we believe in a soul, then it transcends your brainwaves.
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So, what would be the difference between pulling the cord or not pulling the cord?
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With that argument, we should just kill a lot of people and think nothing of it.
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I know, but what you're saying is that since a being has a soul, which is my argument,
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we don't have a right to pull the plug or to terminate that being, regardless if it has
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brainwaves or not, because the soul is there at the moment of creation.
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Why, no, because when your loved one is suffering and they're, you know.
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It's because it's like, we can argue, we can argue, we can argue about abortion and
03:05:38.960
things like that and how it's wrong, but then some, a lot of, or some more right leaning
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are okay with war still and, like, sacrificing men's lives.
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I mean, I'm totally against the Ukraine-Russian war, for example.
03:05:54.220
I mean, again, I think all human beings are made in the image of God.
03:05:58.200
But, as far as, like, people being okay with war, I mean, you have to give me an example.
03:06:05.220
Would perhaps a better argument from your position be, why are these people also in favor
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But, okay, so you're in favor of the death penalty, but you're not in favor of abortion?
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This last week, two illegal aliens in this country just kidnapped and raped a 12-year-old.
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Yeah, so a baby in the womb did not kidnap and rape a 12-year-old.
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Well, everyone has free will and the potential to, but someone who just kidnapped and raped
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two 12-year-olds, they're in a complete different moral universe than a baby who is sitting
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It's also, it's the argument, like, I totally understand that fetuses are innocent, but
03:06:56.780
it's the same argument that, like, you know, if it, if it's the, what is it, the violinist.
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I talked about this before, the first time I was on the violinist argument.
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I know you've been through this, but I'll still run it through.
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The violinist argument where you're hooked up, you wake up and you're hooked up to the
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most famous violinist and they're hooked up to you and you have to sit there for nine
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In order for that metaphor to be true, did you know the night before that you had a chance
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to potentially be hooked up to a violinist if you had a bunch of pleasure?
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Because you agreed to have sex before all of a sudden the violinist showed up in your room.
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Even at that point, even at that point, accidents happen.
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Like, you can, like, it's also like you could just leave your front door open by accident
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and now someone's sitting in your house for fucking eight months, nine months.
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Now, less than one percent of all abortions are rape incest, but having sex is a choice.
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But you, but you don't choose to be pregnant when you have sex.
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But you have a choice to have sex in the first place.
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Pregnancy, sex doesn't always lead to pregnancy.
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Women are only fertile for five days of the month.
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So we should just do what feels good regardless of the choices or consequences?
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But just because people do things all the time, is that right?
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People like doing good things that give them dopamine and serotonin.
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So should what feels good be prioritized over what is good?
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So if I can have pleasure and a bunch of people die, that's perfectly fine.
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So again, back to the point, is that you don't, outside of rape or those very, very
03:08:40.720
fringe text cases, 99% of the time, you don't just wake up and you're magically pregnant.
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You know that you had sex and you're like, oh shit.
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So why do you then get to have the orgasm without the responsibility?
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No, but if the woman chooses to keep the baby, the man has to pay child support.
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Both parties made the choice, which is interesting.
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Do you think that men should be able to have a say before a woman has an abortion?
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I don't think you should be able to force women into abortion, just like you shouldn't
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But is it their body or is it that another body is within their body?
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But if someone broke into my house, I would put a gun to their head and say, get the
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You invited the baby into the house with somebody in a night of passion.
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Why do you have control over somebody else's DNA?
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If they want to control, they should have come.
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Just because somebody happens to be within a womb.
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However, so if somebody has, if it's your DNA, you have total choice of your DNA, to take a
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vaccine or not a vaccine, to be able to drink Coke or drink Sprite.
03:10:29.920
If they're in my body and they're affecting my life, I'll do what I want with them.
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Okay, so that, so just because somebody's location determines their moral worth.
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For, for nine months after you chose to be able to get in that circumstance.
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So your argument is you should do what is expedient, even if there is a victim and there might
03:11:01.740
If, is it okay to murder if the person does not know they were murdered?
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So it's okay to go to an old person's home, a bunch of people with dementia and just start
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So we can go to old people's homes, dementia, Alzheimer's, they're drained on society.
03:11:25.560
By the way, millions of people have dementia and Alzheimer's and we just kill them.
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But it's not necessarily like, if, if they're never going to know, they're never going to
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I think there is a little bit of inconsistency because like after you're dead, you're dead in a lot
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Just a person on the street, someone goes and shoots you.
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Is just because something is not born, are they alive and do they have value?
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So just because, is it because the baby is, the fetus or baby is small?
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Environment or, but you said degree of dependency.
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I don't, but I don't agree with the environment.
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Well, meaning like where the, I'm going through the acronym of what most pro-abortion arguments
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Size, level development, environment, degree of dependency.
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So I'm trying to, I always try to find which one your prior, because every pro-abortion
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Are you glad your mom nurtured you for nine months in the womb?
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So, so you, so if you were just to be killed tomorrow, not a big deal.
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I think that, I think, I think that this is important because 40 years ago, an average
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They would have, they would have said, my life is beautiful.
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I don't think that's the case for every single woman 40 years ago.
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Well, the vast majority of women 40 years ago were not as depressed, not as suicidal.
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So do you think that she is the mainstream opinion or do you think she's a fringe opinion?
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Do you think she's a mainstream opinion or fringe opinion?
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If I were to say that abortion was illegal in America tomorrow, that would be worrisome
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I think it's, when we say pro-abortion, I don't think that that's necessarily accurate
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I think I'm pro-choice because people are probably going to get abortions anyways.
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It's not something I would necessarily do for myself, but I do think if it's going to be
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happening, which it is, it should be safe and it should be something that everyone
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talks about and everyone's educated on beforehand.
03:14:23.860
They're going to other states to get them, but the birth rate's gone up.
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So it's like this idea that people are going to find them otherwise.
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Are you more concerned with the birth rate going up or?
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The morality of it's the number one issue, which we do not have a moral obligation to
03:14:40.760
So if it was scientifically proven, like 100%, without a doubt, that you don't have a consciousness,
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you don't feel pain until the day you come out of the womb, you're fine with any and
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My argument is that at the point of your DNA's creation, a new soul is entering the world
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So you're saying soul and consciousness aren't related?
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We know that, at least in the religious realm, because when your consciousness ceases, your
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I'm not going to win you over on a modern context on that.
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Because there are points when we all see beauty, when our reason or our consciousness is not
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It was, at times there are things that hit us on a soul level.
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When we hear a certain song, see a certain painting, experience natural beauty, that touch us on a
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level that cannot always be described using our reasonable faculties.
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And I know we all have had those, when you go to Yosemite, when you see a sunset in Santa
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Barbara, all of a sudden you're like, wow, that is, that touches me at a level that is
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My argument is that every being at the time of creation, which is when the sperm and egg
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meet, when the deoxyribonucleic acid is formed, that being has a soul.
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And if you don't make the soul argument, then you make the consciousness argument and it's
03:16:10.920
Cause it's just, we're all, we're not, I think our being is more than just a bunch of brain
03:16:14.880
Well, no, I think we have souls as well, along with the consciousness.
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No, so I mean, you're indifferent towards allowing a soul to be dismissed without.
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Cause I fully believe a soul will move on to another being.
03:16:36.940
So the Jewish souls were going to another place.
03:16:45.800
Let's just, a lot of deaths were incidents to execution.
03:16:51.700
Well, some were, but let me just, let me rephrase it then.
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Some Jews were immediately killed when they got off of the rail cars.
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They were, they were tearing away from their families.
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Let's, if, if the death was seamless and without pain and immediate.
03:17:09.000
Can you just pull away from the Auschwitz argument?
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Well, no, you just, you just said that the soul goes to another place and that's fine.
03:17:21.000
No, it's about the living being, what they experienced.
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But I don't fully believe that fetuses experiencing a living life until they have consciousness.
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And they, I don't believe that they do until, what, 22 weeks.
03:17:31.120
When you have a 14-week abortion at Planned Parenthood in Southern California, they offer
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for an additional fee pain medication for the fetus.
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Nobody can ask them, but the data assumes that at 14 weeks, which is legal, California
03:17:46.740
At 14, the data shows that the fetus can feel pain and struggle.
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So they offer, for an additional fee, you can either get pain medication for your fetus
03:17:57.720
It's about 40 bucks extra to get pain medication for your fetus.
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But women also have to, what, get an IUD with no pain medication.
03:18:04.000
The medical industry derived towards women is not fair.
03:18:08.180
If there were less abortions in America, would that be a good thing?
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The more birth control we've had in the West, the more abortions we have.
03:18:23.880
People need to be implemented, like, self-control.
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What if people waited to have sex when they got married?
03:18:40.600
That's amazing for you, but you are not everybody.
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I know it's not easy, but that's a good question.
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So to those of you that haven't, I'm guessing you've all haven't waited until you got married.
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So in the ideal, if I could paint a world for you that you only shared your sexual experience
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with one person that was your soulmate, that's not interesting to you?
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Wait, you guys don't regret any of the men you've slept with?
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You meet so many people throughout your lifetime.
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I do think the sex is better when you're in love.
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You meet so many people throughout your lifetime.
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I was saying, with as big as the world is, you're not going to necessarily find exactly
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Because you're going to grow throughout your life.
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But if that person were to grow with you, then that's...
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So then, if it's not a soulmate, I mean this not facetiously, then what is the purpose
03:19:49.600
I wouldn't do a legal marriage to come into a union.
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Is marriage even a thing that we should care about?
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If you got divorced, and I don't wish that, but if you got divorced...
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It's not even a hypothetical I want to entertain.
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Charlie, do you think secular people should get married?
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What I find interesting, though, is that we're starting...
03:20:16.320
If you have as much sex as you want before, and marriage really doesn't mean much, does
03:20:20.460
Do you think America was a better country when people waited to have sex when they got
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No, it was the vast majority of women in the 50s and 60s.
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I don't think we have the technology to prove that, though.
03:20:36.180
I think a lot of women are still having sex outside of marriage.
03:20:37.960
First of all, talk to your grandparents' generation.
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And we know this, by the way, because birth control wasn't that widespread.
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Yeah, but you can still have sex without getting pregnant.
03:20:52.600
You do not think that people are having more premarital sex today than they were 60 years
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But that doesn't mean they weren't at all before.
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So I'm asking, do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, that people are having
03:21:10.840
You don't like hookup culture, but you're not regretting sleeping with a bunch of guys
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And you don't like hookup culture, but you also do OnlyFans?
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Okay, so my body count is six, and two of those I was in a relationship with.
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The third one I thought I was going to be in a relationship with.
03:21:32.540
And the three before that, all of my friends were hooking up with guys, so I thought, oh,
03:21:36.220
that's what I need to do, because they're all hooking up, so this is the normal thing.
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And I realized very quickly, I don't like hooking up with random men.
03:21:45.840
Do any of you think that women are being harmed by hookup culture?
03:21:50.220
So you all agree at that, but then you say that, you don't think women are being harmed
03:21:58.480
However, so then, why don't all of you make a commitment that you're going to save yourself
03:22:07.300
Well, you can always become a new version of yourself.
03:22:11.300
What's done is done, but you could say, I'm now going to save myself from this point forward.
03:22:19.300
Whatever I've done in the past and up to this point.
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If one is an alcoholic, and they go through AA, and no, it's okay.
03:22:45.340
I'm asking the question, what is the argument against any of you young ladies saying, you
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He's never been with another partner, and I'm going to start a new chapter.
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Because then you're going to come on this podcast, and we're going to have a two-hour-long conversation
03:23:04.400
about how if everybody waited in the drive-thru, and they paid $100, why has a man got to
03:23:11.540
It's a conversation they have on here about everybody being reborn.
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They're like, oh, so if you wait now, everyone's already done it.
03:23:24.700
She's giving an example about the fact that if I don't...
03:23:27.920
All these people are going to participate in this anyways, so why...
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You're kind of going to get shit on it anyways, is what I'm saying.
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You're going to get treated like garbage whether you do it or not.
03:23:37.840
So you think you'll be treated like garbage if you don't have premarital sex?
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Well, I just think maybe potentially the next guy wouldn't want to wait, because they might
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be like, oh, but everyone else didn't have to wait.
03:23:48.320
Hold on, but do you think that you have any leverage over the men in your relationships?
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Well, you said in your relationships you guys had premarital sex, so...
03:24:04.080
But you could also not participate in hookup culture and also decide to not wait until
03:24:11.880
They're not synonymous, but then if you aren't waiting until marriage, then you're basically
03:24:21.620
It's more than sex, you're right, but what is marriage about?
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It's the person that you choose to have a family with.
03:24:29.700
If you meet someone who you don't want to have a family with, but you're actually in
03:24:33.980
love or whatever, and you want to have sex, you should be able to.
03:24:38.880
I'm arguing what one ought to do, not what able to do.
03:24:45.700
I'm saying in the ideal, what is the argument against the women of America saying, men,
03:24:50.980
you have to marry me to be able to sleep with me?
03:24:53.640
You should ask your co-host right here, because he doesn't want to get married.
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Look, me and Charlie aren't going to agree on everything.
03:25:12.240
I do think that sexual compatibility is important in a marriage.
03:25:16.240
Because that was one of the biggest pieces of tension with my ex-husband is, I mean, we
03:25:26.240
I mean, my new husband and I, I mean, we waited a while.
03:25:29.460
And you said that he was more of a femboy, right?
03:25:36.700
I mean, he was a big, tall Mexican, but he just...
03:25:43.140
Can I ask, do you think that men should wait until marriage or just women?
03:25:48.080
If women have to wait, men have to wait as well.
03:25:51.640
One of the problems has been that sex, in its ideal, is weighted in a holy setting between
03:25:57.840
a male and female that share that experience only with their life partner.
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But if we just throw it all out the window and say, men won't like me and hookup culture,
03:26:09.920
I think there's a lot of damage and a lot of ramifications for that.
03:26:13.180
And again, the point being is this, is I believe firmly young ladies are damaged mentally by having
03:26:25.080
Hookup culture hurts women far more than it hurts men.
03:26:28.220
It hurts women more, but I think men are like...
03:26:30.280
I don't think men realize how damaging it is as well to them.
03:26:36.260
But men are wired differently where many sexual partners for men does not hurt men nearly
03:26:42.640
as much as many sexual partners for women because women are far more relational driven
03:26:48.680
So they look at sex as a culmination of a bond where men look at it as sex, as physical,
03:26:55.000
purely, not always with those other elements, unless there is a component of we're going
03:27:04.460
So do you think that men have driven hookup culture then because they don't care about
03:27:11.880
But you're saying that when women have sex, they need to have that bond and they're more
03:27:18.820
So women are wired to want to have a bond when they're having sex with someone.
03:27:24.440
Would you not think that men are driving hookup culture then?
03:27:33.280
Because they think it's going to be a longer bond.
03:27:37.680
And women should know male nature before they start sleeping around with men.
03:27:41.220
So is it a woman's fault or is it a man's fault?
03:27:44.520
Like, if every woman today that was marketable, and all of you guys are on the market, correct?
03:27:53.600
Every one of you, it's simple supply and demand.
03:27:55.980
If you said, we're off limits until the ring is there and the priest says the final vows,
03:28:05.220
That would decrease half the dating pool, probably, at least.
03:28:16.960
So you're one of the ones who also probably argues against, like, there's, like, sexual
03:28:25.240
No, I think sexual chemistry is a real thing, but it's a culmination of different types of
03:28:31.400
There are deeper types of love that transcend the physical.
03:28:35.820
Sexual compatibility, as you say, is a huge part of the relationship.
03:28:39.840
You could have a partner where you had great sex and you have nothing in common.
03:28:45.040
That's an orgasm and a one-night stand or whatever.
03:28:57.800
I just, without legislation or big decrees, I know this, that men have very primal, undeveloped,
03:29:10.720
So should women be punished for men taking advantage of women for that?
03:29:15.040
I'm talking about cultural stuff, not legislation or punishment.
03:29:18.320
But if women want a man that they are worthy of, and many of you are not getting men you
03:29:24.820
are worthy of, then you need to then stop giving the one thing that men want the most.
03:29:30.560
And that is unlimited amounts of sex all the time, bodies on the internet, because men
03:29:34.880
will only view you as a visual stimulation and they'll move on.
03:29:38.620
And if you disagree, you do not understand male nature.
03:29:40.960
But the thing is, men will treat you like that and talk to you like that, whether you want
03:29:49.700
Their Twitch chats are just as degenerate as mine, because people come in there and say
03:29:59.520
I'm saying this as someone who cares about humanity.
03:30:08.940
And they get just as horrible comments as I do.
03:30:18.820
You lift it up by saying you don't get what you want the most until you commit.
03:30:29.920
Because I'm not doing anything more crazy than they are.
03:30:34.460
I'm not doing anything more crazy than they are.
03:30:40.500
But I'm saying they're getting the same degenerate comments that I am on Twitch streams.
03:30:44.820
Because you're now seeing a window into men's sexual nature.
03:30:49.740
Do you lift it up by giving more sex and more bodies and more pictures?
03:31:01.740
If you don't believe that, then you basically are dismissing all of humanity.
03:31:05.120
It's not that I can't believe that men will grow up.
03:31:12.420
And so if you say, you can be with me, but here's the rules of the road.
03:31:16.740
Okay, but I'm on the internet and there's how many?
03:31:19.220
Thousands of hundreds of millions of men on the internet.
03:31:28.320
They're not even doing a wave and they're still getting treated like garbage.
03:31:30.720
Hold on, so again, if you believe that what you do doesn't matter, then you're a nihilist
03:31:38.180
It's about the way that men treat you when you're a woman.
03:31:40.420
So this is the point though, is that how do you get treated better by men?
03:31:47.680
Do you think you get treated by men better by showing more skin or less skin?
03:31:53.740
But hold on, because even when you show less skin, there's women in full-blown covered up burkas
03:32:02.240
They still get R-worded in the middle of the street.
03:32:09.380
So if you want, so men's sexual nature on the internet, you are seeing a window into the
03:32:13.500
depraved because there's no guardrails and there's no guidelines.
03:32:16.900
So how do you, one second, how do you lift up that primal, carnal sexual nature towards
03:32:23.240
Why is that my responsibility to lift up their...
03:32:29.680
But I would imagine you want a life partner at some point.
03:32:36.060
Doing OnlyFans, you're not going to find a life partner.
03:32:45.060
If you think that you can find a virtuous, ethical man who tells the truth by showing
03:32:50.100
a lot of skin online, you do not understand male sexual nature.
03:32:54.000
And I don't profess to know female sexual nature.
03:32:57.660
Men want what they cannot see and they cannot have.
03:33:02.300
They do not want abundance and cleavage and skin.
03:33:13.820
I couldn't be more, like, cruel on males' primal carnal instincts.
03:33:17.740
The question is, how do you lift us up to something better?
03:33:26.400
So what's the difference between her and, like, Gigi Hadid or, like, any Victoria's Secret
03:33:32.220
I mean, is Gigi Hadid in a really great relationship and doing great?
03:33:35.320
I mean, I believe one of them has, like, clinical depression.
03:33:39.260
Again, most celebrity relationships last, like, what, six or seven years?
03:33:43.740
Well, so your point is that they, what, they divorce more often?
03:33:50.120
Again, if you're looking for celebrities for life partner roadmaps, you're looking at
03:33:55.960
So you're fine with comparing that and being like, oh, yeah, they're both not...
03:33:59.680
They can't find high-value men or whatever your claim is.
03:34:02.360
And I am very short on their long-term prospects of being a couple for the next 30 years.
03:34:11.140
When women were more modest in their presentations, when women were more humble in their...
03:34:18.680
Was that necessarily a woman being humble or was that also the laws of the day and age
03:34:24.260
You couldn't get a divorce because you never had a job.
03:34:42.400
If more women than not made a commitment that we want a life partner, I think the reason
03:34:47.860
why you all and women are willing to engage in hookup culture, even though you know
03:34:53.480
Even though you know it's bad for you is because deep down women tend to be more insecure than
03:34:58.020
And you think that you can get praise from men by doing this, and it gives you temporary
03:35:02.140
security, and you're willing to then sacrifice long-term viability of finding a life partner
03:35:16.740
But more broadly, if women were willing to actually say that I am not going to present
03:35:24.200
You would actually have more male suitors, not less.
03:35:29.840
I'm not worried about more or less male suitors.
03:35:33.800
Ones that you feel as if this is the best man I've ever met?
03:35:44.840
So let me ask you, what is more important in your life, good career or great marriage
03:35:49.320
I want my bills paid, so whatever takes the cake.
03:35:54.980
And I'm not necessarily looking for a good husband right now, because I'm not looking
03:36:06.320
I guess I am pretty jaded on this conversation.
03:36:08.500
I didn't get to do the introductions, but I do OnlyFans management.
03:36:14.620
I'm not on the site myself, but I read a lot of messages.
03:36:18.040
And it kind of sucks, because you see so many messages coming in daily that are like,
03:36:25.660
So for me, as someone who's single and in their 20s, it's hard to be like, yeah, I'm
03:36:30.060
going to be a really perfect woman for these kind of men.
03:36:36.460
I even got a message on my OnlyFans from your podcast being like, my girlfriend is so
03:36:42.240
I subbed your OnlyFans because you're so much better than her.
03:36:44.860
It's really hard to see both these conversations.
03:36:47.840
But you're actually proving my point, is you're seeing a window into the depraved male sexual
03:36:54.540
You can say, forget all men and become a lesbian and just forget it, right?
03:36:59.880
Or you could be like, I actually think that men have a proper role in society.
03:37:10.220
I agree that they're grown infants, but it's not my job to fix you.
03:37:14.420
You have a moral obligation not to make it worse.
03:37:26.400
No, I'm not saying it's all your fault, but if you...
03:37:32.480
If you are producing sexually explicit content online, you are increasing the supply, not
03:37:40.780
Even though you're a small part of it, I get it.
03:37:42.240
Okay, even if I didn't have an OnlyFans, the comments that I've gotten on all of my
03:37:46.320
social media without it have been even more degrading than the comments I've gotten
03:37:51.000
Got it, but you're blaming the comments for your action, not taking responsibility for
03:37:56.100
No, no, because even if I post a selfie of just my face, I'm going to be like, I want
03:38:02.340
Okay, but again, you're seeing a window into the depraved sexual nature.
03:38:13.060
That could be an attitude, and that has been the attitude the last 30 years.
03:38:17.580
Less people married, less people in happy relationships.
03:38:21.800
If you were a panel of men, I'd be talking completely different.
03:38:23.340
Are you saying it's a woman's job to fix men from being depraved, or what are you saying
03:38:28.760
I have an entire chapter of this book about how we should ban pornography.
03:38:35.200
But no, I have an entire chapter of this book on how men need to stop watching pornography
03:38:41.800
Both sides have growth to do, but we're here at a female-driven panel, so I'm trying to...
03:38:56.000
So you're an OnlyFans, so help me out and say that.
03:39:01.560
Yeah, borderline, but it's a Victoria's Secret model.
03:39:04.280
You do OnlyFans, are you in favor, do you object to Charlie's position on banning porn?
03:39:18.640
Julie wants to ban porn, so you'd be banning what you do.
03:39:38.180
Do you have time for just a few more questions?
03:39:43.240
I'm just saying that you have to then act in the direction of the man you want.
03:39:48.840
And men have to act in the direction of the woman they want.
03:39:52.400
And at some point, maybe romantically, we can meet halfway.
03:39:58.040
What if it's a man who wants an OnlyFans girl and an OnlyFans girl who wants a man?
03:40:03.840
But, of course, you get what you want, but that's not what one ought to want.
03:40:07.580
By the way, those watching, afterwards, we do have Andrew Wilson.
03:40:10.860
He's going to do a call-in once Charlie has to go.
03:40:13.440
But I do want to ask, going around the table to open something else up to the table,
03:40:29.120
I don't know enough about guns to have an opinion.
03:40:43.860
So, can I just say one thing in closing, though?
03:40:45.540
Um, there's a lot of attention towards that men need to be better men, and that's a thing.
03:40:50.860
I think that women are exempt far too often in that conversation, you guys.
03:40:58.560
The most important thing you can do is give your life to Jesus and to give your life to
03:41:11.320
I'm sure he loves me, but let me find it out on my own, please.
03:41:18.320
In the book, is there a specific chapter about dating?
03:41:22.400
No, there's actually a whole thing about life advice for men and women.
03:41:52.160
Date seriously right away with an eye towards marriage and family, which we talked about.
03:41:55.700
If your goal is to put family and children above your career, avoid an educational path
03:42:00.800
Watch your weight and do your best to maintain your attractiveness.
03:42:04.300
Listen to your parents, especially your mom, and don't be afraid to ask her for advice.
03:42:16.240
Volunteer to help out your Sunday school nursery.
03:42:19.500
You can laugh at that, but it's a great way to see if you like kids or not.
03:42:30.520
Charlie, I got to play this right before you leave.
03:43:18.080
I think they had better body positivity because OnlyFans, they're seeing so many different
03:43:21.960
body shapes and sizes now, having fans, that a lot of women are saying, oh, everybody's
03:43:27.460
It's not just 19-year-old blondes like it used to be in Playboy.
03:43:30.460
I don't think it has to take to this level to get that body positivity, but...
03:43:35.900
And apparently, in porn addiction, a friend of mine's a neurologist.
03:44:09.780
We'll probably just take these off the table for now.
03:44:12.860
So, Maddie, maybe just put them on the kitchen island there for a bit.
03:44:18.600
In just a moment here, we're going to have the other girls tap back in.
03:44:25.580
I'm going to read some chats while that comes through.
03:44:35.420
And then disgrace comes upon her because the arrogance is an abomination.
03:44:57.800
That's, I guess, a nod, head nod to Grid 1 Motorsports.
03:45:06.900
What's your standard for your partner's income?
03:45:09.200
You should prioritize making some junior pilots before it's too late.
03:45:16.720
I'm not going to Oshkosh this year, but thanks.
03:45:20.380
What's your standard for your partner's income?
03:45:47.800
We had a, I don't know if you were watching for a little bit there, we had a doozy of
03:45:53.700
No, I wasn't able to catch a lot of it, unfortunately.
03:46:03.020
Yeah, I see my biggest fan back there whispering about me.
03:46:18.620
Yeah, see, I knew my biggest, all I have to say is my biggest fan, I knew that she would
03:46:27.160
So I think we're going to, we're going to tap you guys out.
03:46:31.140
Then you guys are going to be in, there's going to be a surprise, but so why don't we
03:46:36.660
get, actually, we'll want to, hmm, let me think I want to do this.
03:46:42.100
Let's bring the other girls back in, same seats.
03:46:45.140
And Andrew, why don't you introduce yourself real quick?
03:46:55.320
I'm a political satirist, and I also like to engage in a little bit of debate from time
03:47:05.320
Sorry, guys, we're playing musical chairs here, so we're tapping people back in.
03:47:34.760
I mean, gentleman might be, it might be a little, it might be a little far.
03:47:39.300
Andrew, you got a little fluff on your microphone, Andrew.
03:48:00.040
Did we get rid of the, did we get rid of the white fluff for you?
03:48:16.440
We've tagged in, excuse me, Andrew Wilson in place of Charlie Kirk there.
03:48:41.680
Well, why don't you guys start tangling on whatever you want to tangle on?
03:48:52.600
Well, I was just wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions.
03:48:56.360
And we start with, at the beginning of the podcast, and I only, I was only able to watch
03:49:02.320
about 45 minutes, but I did hear a little bit of your backstory.
03:49:06.340
You're kind of a gold digger by your own admission, right?
03:49:17.020
But what was interesting is you said you were in a relationship with two different men for
03:49:24.000
But then you said that you were in a relationship with somebody else, and you put those relationships
03:49:32.000
As it got more serious, I tried to make that work as the only relationship, and then it
03:49:35.260
And then how many years were you with that primary relationship?
03:49:40.100
In total, it was like between five and six, I think.
03:49:43.480
I'd have to go back and look at the old calendar.
03:49:47.880
So then you weren't really with those men for 18 years?
03:49:55.100
Well, I mean, are you saying that it was 18 years split?
03:50:06.580
So this would mean that you took, what, 24 years you've been dating these two men?
03:50:16.200
You just said it wasn't, right, because of the one in the middle.
03:50:23.980
So you weren't with them for all 18 years, or there was a split, or what?
03:50:30.620
Concurrent means at the same time, back-to-back is in serial or tandem.
03:50:34.440
Yeah, so you were dating them both at the same time.
03:50:39.920
So back to the, you're dating these two concurrently.
03:50:41.760
Are you trying to figure out when I started dating?
03:50:46.000
Are you trying to figure out when I started dating men?
03:50:49.080
Oh, I'm trying to figure out if there was a gap between this 18-year mark that you dated
03:50:54.680
these two men and the six years that you had with this other guy.
03:50:59.380
So I'm trying to figure out, was it 18 years straight?
03:51:06.000
So in this gap, does that mean that those six years that you weren't dating those two guys,
03:51:12.940
So you were only really dating these guys for, what, 15 years or 14 years?
03:51:25.940
How long you were actually with these two guys.
03:51:39.760
Yeah, so you've been dating these guys on and off for 24 years?
03:51:52.440
Well, I mean, I'm just trying to make sense of the story.
03:51:59.980
Because when you say, well, I was with these two guys for 18 years, right?
03:52:04.460
And then, but I was dating another guy for six years, and then I dropped those two guys.
03:52:10.060
So that could mean, well, wait, it was 18 years with these two guys, but then six years where
03:52:17.840
Or it could mean it's 18 years in total, but in the center, I dropped that off.
03:52:24.040
What would be the difference to you one way or the other?
03:52:27.860
Well, let's assume for a second that you started dating these two guys 18 years ago.
03:52:32.700
And then in the center of that, you, yeah, I know, but I'm just saying that that would
03:52:38.160
be the difference is let's assume that you did 18.
03:52:43.280
Then you would be trying to gotcha me because at one point there would have been three, which
03:52:47.320
But that's what you'd be saying is, well, actually for six years, there was three.
03:52:52.760
I'm just trying to make sure that it was actually 18 years.
03:53:00.020
Why would it, why would it be odd that I'm trying to make sense of the story you told?
03:53:06.740
I mean, I think it's super important if you're on a dating podcast and you're giving a descriptor
03:53:12.640
for the relationships that you're in, and then you get the year mark for those relationships
03:53:17.980
I just want to make sure that I'm clear on, on what's going on.
03:53:25.260
Okay, but I'm still not clear, so I just want to make sure I get this right.
03:53:32.280
So the grand total, the grand scheme of things is like 24, 25 years, actually, that you've
03:53:41.240
No, because there were years in between, so no.
03:53:43.640
Yeah, no, no, no, I get it, but I'm just saying on and off again.
03:53:49.660
Okay, so then, at that 24-year mark, after the six years were done, how did you approach
03:53:58.180
those dudes and ask them to come back in your life?
03:54:09.320
So you were talking to them the entire time you were in the six-year relationship?
03:54:22.320
Did they, like, find out through social media or something, or did you tell them that you
03:54:34.460
Yeah, I'm just asking about the particulars there.
03:54:39.200
Like, how did the word get out to them that you were no longer dating this guy?
03:54:56.400
I don't have a lot of time to reach out to old friends.
03:55:03.280
How far spaced apart around the country are these two guys?
03:55:11.160
Well, you don't have to give me an exact geographical area.
03:55:21.860
Well, I mean, again, I'm just asking for the particulars.
03:55:34.100
So have you ever been in, like, a committed, just monogamous relationship where it's just you and one other man?
03:55:41.460
And is there anything specific to those relationships that you've been in which is making you want to date two people at once for the past 18 years?
03:55:50.040
Yeah, I'm asking if there's, like, anything specific that prompted you to do that rather than spend your life with one person.
03:55:58.120
Not just, like, oh, like, because I want to do that.
03:56:00.060
But, like, what prompted, like, what made you want to do that?
03:56:25.300
Or maybe there's some, like, underlying reason.
03:56:34.380
Do you have any other questions for any other of the guests, Andrew?
03:56:41.140
That was, also, that was really unnecessarily combative in a strange way.
03:56:47.020
I don't feel like I was asking anything that was way, that was, like, hardball or anything.
03:56:50.940
I was just curious about the story and trying to make sure I got your story correct.
03:56:55.100
When I said hello and you said hello to everybody except the pilot, then I didn't like you anymore.
03:57:06.060
By the way, did you realize that every other woman at the table laughed at that?
03:57:14.100
You know, now, if everybody had said at the table, now, let's pretend for a second.
03:57:18.540
And they were like, hello to everybody on the panel except Andrew.
03:57:41.300
No, it's just funny because it's a dating podcast, but people don't like to talk about
03:57:54.720
This would be a good time to ask the question from Stifler.
03:58:00.120
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10, and you can't pick 7.
03:58:55.840
Nick, can you pull up the current viewer numbers?
03:58:58.140
I just really quick since I should have done this sooner.
03:59:13.720
If you're new to the channel, drop us a follow.
03:59:32.080
We're going to be doing Madison exclusive streams on there.
03:59:37.940
And if you're watching on YouTube, oh, Nick, can you pull up the thing in the middle here?
03:59:41.900
Guys, we got 12,600 watching on YouTube, 2,000 on Twitch.
03:59:48.640
And then two, hop on over to twitch.tv slash whatever.
03:59:51.960
We are going to be doing some really good streams over there too that are not going to be on YouTube.
04:00:06.220
Andrew, we were going around the table on the rating thing.
04:00:10.460
Yeah, I was going to pick on the pilot a little bit, even though, you know, now it's in good fun, right?
04:00:16.840
I was just going to ask, do you think that you're the prettiest girl in the room?
04:00:44.040
This means that she must disagree with the gal in the black who rated herself as a ten.
04:00:55.680
Since it is, in your opinion, that Madison over there is the prettiest girl in the room, but the girl in the black rated herself as a ten.
04:01:08.880
What are the features that you would pick out that you think are less good than the features that Madison has?
04:01:21.460
My personal taste, I think her long straight hair is really pretty.
04:01:33.720
I also feel like that's such a weird question to ask.
04:01:49.020
But if you do, I think whatever future questions you have are weird then.
04:01:52.380
I mean, saying it's a weird question is meaningless to me.
04:01:56.440
But perhaps you can tell me instead, instead of giving me your emotional state, tell me instead what it is that you think is problematic about the question.
04:02:07.500
I feel like it doesn't really get anyone anywhere.
04:02:10.180
She has a certain standard that, like, just like everyone, everyone finds everyone differently attractive.
04:02:32.240
I just feel like it's just a really odd question to ask.
04:02:54.380
subjective standard and each individual has a subjective standard,
04:03:05.700
that they're not telling the truth about their rating.
04:03:09.480
And one of the ways that I've found that I can test that
04:03:12.520
is by simply asking them to rate the person next to them.
04:03:16.900
suddenly they have a much more objective standard
04:03:19.120
as to what beauty is than when they're rating themselves.
04:03:35.920
So I guess it's not a weird question after all.
04:03:54.900
Have you guys had any other cosmetic procedures done?
04:04:19.620
Well, you just stated you were not perfect in some dimension.
04:04:51.880
If you were to work on something you considered a flaw,
04:04:55.440
then how could you logically also think you were a 10?
04:05:18.100
It's because some flaws actually do make you less
04:05:25.020
will make you more confident if it's no longer a flaw,
04:05:37.080
So I think that your argument here makes sense.
04:05:39.660
You can have flaws, which can increase your confidence,
04:05:46.180
But then you consider them flaws if you fix them, right?
04:06:04.360
Because if you're using that skill of 10, perfect,
04:06:10.280
there's no one human that's perfect without any single flaw,
04:06:49.380
Do you only want answers from the girls who said 10?
04:07:14.040
Like, how do you rate your flaws in that way, you know?
04:07:38.980
if 10 means without flaw from a beauty perspective,
04:19:33.360
Are you prepared to state that they're equivalent physical attractiveness?
04:19:44.900
Actually, like, honestly, I find the first guy more attractive.
04:20:16.400
Let's assume they both have good personalities.
04:20:20.320
Yeah, let's just assume they both have good personalities.
04:20:28.540
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
04:20:32.360
Like, I'd have low blood sugar and hungry and tired.
04:20:55.100
You have no preferences when it comes to looks.
04:21:01.700
No, because then you're not taking care of your body and your health and yourself.
04:21:04.840
So, the first guy, he's not obese, but he is chunky.
04:21:11.120
Okay, obese is an overstatement then, because that man is not obese.
04:21:24.580
I'm not really attracted to men at the moment, so...
04:21:41.680
Well, no, because my type is women who look like me, so...
04:21:50.360
So, then there's some standards, some beauty standards that you have then.
04:21:54.400
I'm not saying that I wouldn't find her attractive, but I wouldn't want to date her because my type
04:22:12.500
I don't think that the second guy is attractive at all.
04:22:25.520
Not that I'm against them, but that's not mine.
04:22:29.260
Can I ask someone that you guys think is really attractive, so we can have something
04:22:46.260
I honestly don't even have any celebrity crushes to, like, share with you right now.
04:22:51.680
The amount of cope that's going on right now is fucking crazy.
04:22:57.780
That's why we're more about feelings and how somebody's connection is.
04:23:00.440
Yeah, assume both of those men will give you good feelings.
04:23:12.600
Which of the two guys would you rather date, marry, have kids with?
04:23:25.220
Um, I don't know how cool or fun or nice or all that the others are, so I'd have to meet
04:23:41.780
I want to congratulate you for not going along with the herd, not going along with the sheep
04:23:54.320
Number two, kind of look like a boy, and I want a man.
04:23:59.140
What if I told you he's, uh, I think that guy's 31, 32.
04:24:05.460
Okay, you don't know anything about his mentality.
04:24:12.040
I look like I weigh more than him, and I think I do.
04:24:23.240
I would go with number one, because I've dated guys that looked like number two.
04:24:28.600
I have dated guys that looked like number two before, and I much prefer, like, the dad bod.
04:24:45.940
If he slid into any of their DMs, they'd love to hit it no problem.
04:24:50.100
Saying the model isn't hot is ego protection, because they assume they'd be rejected.
04:25:39.840
Well, I don't know if we're going to figure anything out with the whole rating thing.
04:25:56.000
Because for one, you'd be a top, and for the other, you'd be a bottom.
04:25:58.700
I feel like you'd pick number one, to be honest.
04:26:08.380
Brian, I'm also curious to see what you and Andrew would rate us.
04:26:16.700
I don't know what you want your son to look like.
04:26:18.260
I feel like number one, because he kind of looks like Drake.
04:26:24.180
So if you really want me to do a rating, I'll do one.
04:26:30.680
Go around, do rating on me, and then I'll go around, do rating on you.
04:26:35.240
So quickly to answer your thing, though, like, just objectively, yeah, number two is more
04:26:42.620
I can objectively look at different men and make assessments about, this guy's more attractive
04:26:53.460
But also, when you're dating model types, they're, I mean, one, they're workout obsessed,
04:26:57.880
and two, like, they don't let you order what you went to at dinner.
04:27:05.700
So, I don't know if we get into that, but you were suggesting that you wanted the guys
04:27:19.000
I would only do it if the girls were fine with us rating them.
04:27:55.760
So, it's just, is it just you who's opting out?
04:28:28.420
I think you're a ten, but your opinions are just not valid.
04:28:36.300
Given that we're, like, not the same age and you're not someone who I'd go for, probably
04:28:56.440
So, I'll start from right to left, and I'll do it from my own subjective kind of viewpoint.
04:29:03.940
So, I would say three, two, five, two, two, two, two, two, one.
04:29:24.920
Yeah, now that you rated me a two, it just made me so much more attracted to you.
04:29:33.060
I mean, if we're going to just troll, then let's just troll.
04:29:52.440
If I send a PayPal account, will you send me some money?
04:30:04.460
If I send you my PayPal account, will you send me some money?
04:30:07.140
I just want to make sure you're going to send me some cash.
04:30:13.440
That doesn't sound like you're as into me as you had first kind of alluded to.
04:30:20.960
It seems like perhaps your trolling has backfired here a bit.
04:30:31.160
I'll just say those of you who said you're 10s, you're not 10s.
04:30:50.160
I could articulate it further, but yeah, I can...
04:31:09.000
I'm going to grab one because I'm going to go to the bathroom.
04:31:15.040
Would the Sistine Chapel look just as good if it was covered in spray paint tags and littered
04:31:19.780
A picturesque city looks same with heroin addicted homeless intense?
04:31:36.680
We're going to go into some of the pre-show notes here.
04:31:42.980
Hold on just one moment here while I just check over a couple things.
04:31:54.780
Actually, I'll wait until Madison's back for that one.
04:32:07.840
So you said that you disagree on people not accepting sex work and judging us for it.
04:32:17.380
So you disagree that people don't accept sex work?
04:32:26.740
But, like, it doesn't mean that you have to, like, say it out loud sometimes kind of thing.
04:32:34.100
And you object to people judging you for it, too?
04:32:37.460
Yeah, but, like, I don't really give a shit, either.
04:32:44.600
Let's say a man doesn't judge a woman necessarily,
04:32:46.980
but would you object to a man refusing to date a woman because she does sex work?
04:33:05.520
Like, a guy who wouldn't date a sex worker, it's probably because he's insecure.
04:33:08.560
I think it could be that, but also because he doesn't really want a girlfriend that's going
04:33:12.200
to be, like, online and, like, naked and stuff, which I do get that side as well.
04:33:22.600
I feel like any man that loves you will love you no matter what, so...
04:33:28.180
Right, but so, okay, the question is, do you object to men who would not, who refuse to
04:33:56.080
You had an Instagram story that I thought was interesting.
04:34:00.240
You have an Instagram highlight that says, come see why my family hates me.
04:34:14.440
I had, like, managers on my Instagram running my accounts.
04:34:17.080
Like, I run my OnlyFans account, but I had managers on there, and they were just trying
04:34:20.160
to get traction, like, viewers to the story to go and subscribe to my OnlyFans at the very
04:34:27.280
No, my family actually, like, don't care what I do.
04:34:30.520
They have an opinion, but, like, they know if they were to diss me for it, then I'd still
04:34:51.140
I mean, at the start, obviously, they were upset, but then again, like, I'm an adult,
04:34:55.880
Obviously, they're not happy about it, and they're not going to, like, tell me, like,
04:35:13.340
Actually, I'll come back to that a little bit later.
04:35:21.180
You said the only unique story I have is that I go to UCR, and you're dating a guy from
04:35:25.200
UC Riverside, and your parents, who are happily married, also met at UC Riverside.
04:35:29.580
You said that you think dating in this generation is hard because it's really hard to find genuine
04:35:38.400
people nowadays, and you think that's on both sides, both men and women, they're hard
04:35:44.540
I mean, somebody who's using you for, I don't know, sex, that's disingenuine.
04:35:59.000
Somebody who is not loyal to you, that's also disingenuine.
04:36:16.040
Like it doesn't change your physical appearance at all?
04:36:32.540
I know a lot of people, I showed you the two photos of those two different men.
04:36:38.620
Would you feel deceived, for example, if a guy, you thought a guy had a full head of
04:36:49.800
Only if he's like, hey, this is my real, real hair.
04:36:53.300
Yeah, like if you guys are like six months in and he's never once shown you the toupee
04:36:57.600
and you find it out, I would honestly be a little hurt.
04:37:00.240
But like if he starts off the date by like, ha ha, look at my toupee, and you're like,
04:37:05.720
I mean, but at six months, like if you didn't notice the toupee.
04:37:11.160
So you guys, I mean, when it comes to the makeup thing, you guys don't think like makeup
04:37:20.540
Some men will shave off their beard and they're a completely different person, for example.
04:37:26.240
I was looking at your Instagram account before I came and I seen you without a beard and you
04:37:32.000
Yeah, I look different with and without a beard.
04:37:34.400
Yeah, you look like a baby, but now you look like a grown man.
04:37:45.340
I feel like that picture was a really long time ago too.
04:37:50.340
Yeah, a lot of those, a lot of my, uh, hold on.
04:37:55.380
I'm going to show you two, I'm going to show you guys two comparison photos.
04:37:58.380
Nick, you're going to have to open image new tab on both of those photos.
04:38:02.240
And I'm going to show you two photos before, after makeup.
04:38:04.500
Actually, we have a bunch of tabs open still for the makeup stuff, right, Nick?
04:38:12.440
Is it still kicking Andrew off for some reason?
04:38:18.860
So you're going to have to, like, open image and new tab on both of those.
04:38:32.160
The ladies who rate themselves a 10 are lying to themselves because their embrace of pride
04:38:45.380
It seems to not be pulling them up in the way that we want them.
04:39:06.980
Yeah, just save the images to file and then just get them pulled up.
04:39:13.020
So we are going to show you guys two different images.
04:39:15.300
Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever and drop us a follow on the Prime sub if you have one.
04:39:20.100
And Nick, try to get those as quickly as you can, please.
04:39:26.780
Also, speaking of that, we did lower the read and TTS trigger.
04:39:49.460
And then, remind me, Nick, we'll go through the other ones, too, okay?
04:40:07.340
I don't know why it's doing that, but it's annoying.
04:40:21.640
Okay, well, let's assume you could achieve this, and I think you can achieve this through
04:40:30.620
No, you can clearly tell she's, like, really beautiful, even on the far right picture.
04:40:36.900
Like, her lips are a different shape on the AI.
04:40:45.600
I think she's really pretty on the right side, though.
04:41:16.600
I actually hate her makeup, but she looks better.
04:42:23.960
I feel like the most deceptive part was the AI and the Photoshop,
04:42:27.560
which it could have been done by the person who got the picture,
04:42:30.860
or it could have been done by the person who posted the picture.
04:42:34.780
but I feel like that's the most deceptive part.
04:42:39.160
So you guys don't think makeup changes somebody's physical appearance for the better?
04:43:21.020
That's why I disagreed with the fact that AI and the filter in the Photoshop,
04:43:26.140
even if you're using a picture from 10 years ago,
04:43:29.660
You should be using current pictures of what you look like and what you,
04:43:39.860
then why would you not post a picture of your bridal makeup?
04:43:43.600
if you post a picture of you with no makeup and then the guy's like,
04:44:01.720
posting the picture of what you genuinely look like on a day by day basis or
04:44:08.680
if you wear the bridal makeup every single day.
04:44:11.480
So you're saying you would be more deceptive to post a picture of you
04:44:34.640
why wouldn't you want to see that from the start?
04:44:39.740
then I'll make a deal with all of the women at the table who think that a
04:44:43.480
beard like this is just as deceptive as the makeup,
04:44:52.200
if you guys will take the makeup wipes and wipe all of your makeup off
04:45:22.660
that's not telling you to go ahead and wear makeup.
04:45:24.720
That's assuming that if you do opt to wear makeup,
04:45:27.500
don't come into the studio and take 10 minutes in the bathroom to put it on
04:45:34.020
I'm not specific because the new people wouldn't know that.
04:45:44.740
The reason we say be makeup and hair ready is so that women don't show up
04:45:48.640
and spend 20 minutes in the bathroom getting ready when we need to get the
04:46:00.120
But that's not me saying you have to show up with makeup.
04:46:19.300
make sure that it's been applied prior to you arriving.
04:46:34.860
this is one of the largest IRL podcasts in the world,
04:46:39.000
would you guys actually agree if I shave my beard to grab the makeup wipes?
04:46:43.860
Then he has the makeup removers right there to remove your makeup while you look at the camera for the rest of this podcast.
04:47:01.160
I think it's going to be a little too disruptive to be honest.
04:47:18.440
I don't think that you guys would actually wipe your makeup off right here live.
04:47:23.320
What if we each show a picture of us without makeup?
04:47:39.640
So I think that many of you would disagree with this assessment and would not actually
04:47:45.700
one of the largest IRL podcasts in the world with all those eyes on.
04:48:12.520
I got to veto this because I need you with your beard.
04:48:15.580
but what they actually look like lasts forever.
04:48:32.440
So everybody can see what you actually look like.
04:48:38.720
So I was talking with my wife who was recently on whatever.
04:48:44.700
I go back and I watch these videos and these chicks don't actually look
04:48:56.240
I imagine what they would look like without all of that makeup and all
04:49:06.860
shave this whole thing off right down to the bear.
04:49:20.100
Somebody send in a champagne prop and then he'll do it.
04:51:05.540
That has a lot to do with your physical appearance.
04:52:05.080
Just like gun charges and like the smart stuff,
04:52:28.520
what kind of crimes then would they have committed?
04:52:37.320
So like what kind of crimes would they have committed?
04:52:45.480
but not as far as murder or rape or anything like that.
04:53:04.180
Like they assault somebody because out of defense.
04:53:10.440
it wouldn't be a crime if it was in self-defense.
04:53:13.400
They could still be put into jail for at least a few days before.
04:53:19.920
nothing to do with hurting anybody or anything like that.
04:53:29.960
They've always got the money to like look after themselves.
04:53:31.540
What about people who defraud elderly out of their money?
04:53:40.660
Like they steal money from old people basically.
04:53:49.980
nothing to do with like robbery or anything like that,
04:54:20.400
why would I be okay with him selling drugs to like 11 year old?
04:54:23.300
You think somebody who's inclined to be a drug dealer is going to make that?
04:54:28.820
There might be some drug dealers that make that,
04:54:37.780
But there's probably drug dealers who have no qualms with,
04:55:04.420
I'm talking about the drugs where they've all got tunnels and stuff.
04:55:14.980
he says it's the equivalent of a man walking around with a banana stuffed in his pants.
04:55:23.520
I think it's also would be the equivalent of a guy who had like inserts in his shoes that
04:55:30.960
Or a guy who just lies about being six inch or six inches, six feet, six feet, excuse me,
04:55:56.740
I would say that like wearing makeup is the functional equivalent of a guy who works at
04:56:17.780
the equivalent confusing catfishing with being a sociopathic liar.
04:56:25.040
Do you guys have consequences the same way that lie would.
04:56:29.060
So do you guys agree that men are primarily visual in terms of what they're attracted to?
04:56:34.400
And can we manipulate the visual for men to like us more?
04:56:43.820
I don't think it would be criminal for a man to lie and say he's an attorney in the dating context.
04:57:06.500
the moral equivalence of wearing makeup for a woman.
04:57:26.420
Makeup has a way bigger impact than some dude lying about his job.
04:57:32.680
makeup will make a guy who otherwise maybe wouldn't be as attracted to you or attracted to at all.
04:57:39.380
Versus the lawyer lie might help out a little bit.
04:58:12.620
Training the suits in the back for the draft so they can vote.
04:58:17.760
Eastern feminism was not about voting or property rights.
04:58:31.260
I don't know what he means by Eastern feminism.
04:58:37.880
we're talking about specifically the rejection of patriarchal systems.
04:58:46.000
and you're saying it's something different than that,
04:58:47.820
then we're talking about two things which aren't alike at all.
04:59:04.600
You should have just let me answer the question before you,
04:59:25.980
What do you girls think about Asian women who refuse?
04:59:31.980
What do you think about Asian women who refuse to date Asian men?
04:59:54.080
What do you think about Asian women who refuse to date Asian men?
05:00:35.400
like it doesn't have to do if you're like Korean,
05:00:42.640
I think I'm more particular on the type of Asian guys that I think are cute.
05:00:50.780
you just mean like type of who they are as a person?
05:01:20.480
But what do you think about the women who refuse,
05:01:59.120
he was talking about the distinction between Western feminists wanting like land liberation
05:02:08.900
but when I'm talking about feminism specifically in the case of this panel,
05:02:13.860
I'm talking about a rejection of patriarchal systems or modern feminism.
05:02:45.100
Can I have you just scoot your mic to the edge of the table,
05:02:52.640
I'm assuming that you mean more people when you say general public.
05:03:16.920
like escort type of women have told me that I don't qualify as one.
05:03:24.600
they tell me that I don't qualify because I don't do the same stuff and live the same way.
05:03:30.620
I very much think sex work should be decriminalized.
05:03:49.400
what are you bringing to the table besides your body to these men who are taking care of you?
05:04:07.320
you'd have to ask someone who loves me why they love me.
05:04:16.100
I assume you know what you bring to the table of the relationship,
05:04:26.440
I don't really give it that much consideration.
05:04:31.280
if you had to take the attributes you think that they're after the most,
05:05:17.080
what do you bring to the table between you and your wife?
05:05:25.100
I think I would have pretty good answers for what I think I bring to the table.
05:05:33.440
Does that mean you have answers for somebody else who's not me?
05:06:01.800
I sort of thought it was similar with very much longer relationships,
05:06:05.820
but in the sense that I like men who provide for me.
05:06:11.160
but with extremely long and deep relationships,
05:06:32.260
if a guy contacted you and wanted to go on a date with you,
05:06:38.680
would you charge him for your time to like go on the date?
05:06:45.000
I would never date a guy who didn't provide enough for the vacation,
05:07:00.760
what does he have to do for the date to actually occur?
05:07:12.080
I'm looking for something a little more concrete.
05:07:24.160
he's taking you a nice steak dinner in New York.
05:07:39.960
Let us assume for a second that you met an attractive man in an age bracket that you thought was fantastic.
05:07:54.760
I'm going to take care of whatever it is your material needs,
05:08:10.000
So then there's something additional to the material that is valuable,
05:08:16.400
so what are those things about you that are additional to the material that are valuable?
05:08:30.540
if there's additions to that from your perspective,
05:08:34.300
what are those additional things about you other than your body,
05:08:43.400
I'm more concerned with whether I want him or not.
05:08:46.060
I sent you a text if you could check it really quick.
05:09:04.660
Maybe it's just a question of definitions here.
05:09:27.740
but I've been told by that escort community that that is not what I am.
05:09:50.440
you've never been on a first date where there was like a,
05:09:54.740
I'm just talking like going out on the date where he just gave you like,
05:09:59.540
I've had men send me more than that and never meet me.
05:10:18.120
And he was just wondering if you could walk us through how you land a
05:10:26.480
they differ the over the gate speed is different based on the type of
05:10:55.440
and I have to land this plane because the pilot like had a heart attack and
05:11:03.480
you're going to need to find where the push to talk is,
05:11:06.340
They're going to give you progressive instructions.
05:11:11.600
first you're going to need to talk to tower through it.
05:11:54.420
And you're going to need progressive instructions to try to live.
05:12:10.360
it's after you 45 to the downwind before you turn base,
05:12:13.360
you're going to have to put the gear down and you're going to declare mayday.
05:12:22.600
are you thinking that she's not telling the truth about the pilot thing?
05:12:28.820
I'm just wondering if you could walk me through it.
05:12:32.660
he's saying just ask her to walk you through how I land this plane step by step.
05:12:49.880
So first you're going to have to talk to people because you don't know how to fly a
05:12:55.540
Then you're going to get a bunch of things to do in series.
05:13:01.460
If you can get them done fast enough before dying,
05:13:05.440
They're going to have the foam and the ambulances out.
05:13:14.500
They're probably going to extend your downwind,
05:13:16.560
give you lots of time to try to save your own life.
05:13:20.680
it depends if it has like reverse thrusters or brakes or what the,
05:13:26.760
And so you're going to have to slow down and taxi off if you're not dead by
05:13:34.780
They'll walk you through as quick as they can and you'll try to live.
05:13:56.500
I feel like if I was going to explain to a person in a video game,
05:14:06.140
I'm just wondering if you could just walk me through step by step.
05:14:11.420
you can come up with whatever scenario you want in whatever demographic you want,
05:14:15.720
in whatever city you want that I'm going down over and how you would instruct a person
05:15:06.600
like you were on another podcast and they were asking you like something about money.
05:15:11.480
I got like 20 K from this guy and 30 K from this guy.
05:15:15.540
but these were like men you were dating over the period of time or even some,
05:15:38.320
What's the biggest amount that a dude sent you that,
05:16:13.540
you're open to crypto and have the government got half of it.
05:16:34.800
Do you know any like gay dudes that like just send people money without meeting them?
05:16:45.260
As long as I don't have to meet them like shit.
05:16:47.640
that's kind of what you're getting right now with the.
05:16:56.920
I need a couple of ladies to throw through a couple of TTSs.
05:17:00.680
How do you know it's not ladies behind the screen?
05:17:11.740
So also I don't know if I can you in your pre-show messages,
05:17:15.580
you said you previously worked in two industries.
05:17:21.900
I did my undergrad at Cal and I worked in biotech for a couple of years.
05:17:25.720
And then I did an MBA in LA and I worked in oil.
05:17:33.260
I was in the investor relations of a small oil company that we took public and then sold.
05:17:45.560
What's the biggest like one time transaction that you've gotten from a dude?
05:18:23.020
If you had to say how much you've made total from,
05:18:47.220
we should have gotten to this while Charlie was here.
05:18:49.280
you said that some issues you're perhaps a bit more liberal.
05:19:00.480
I think most people peg me as traditional because I like men to provide and women to stay feminine
05:19:06.820
but I don't have any problem with people who don't want that.
05:19:21.540
I don't think we can criminalize our way out of it.
05:19:30.460
I perhaps want to offer a little pushback here.
05:19:33.240
you said you're a little bit on the more traditional side with marriage and family.
05:19:46.480
you've been in like two long-term relationships for 18 years.
05:19:50.660
I'm assuming you don't acknowledge like those aren't,
05:19:59.200
how do you kind of reconcile that the whole traditional thing,
05:20:20.860
I do some of the things that are sort of masculine,
05:20:22.960
I shoot guns and fly planes and that's kind of ascribed to men.
05:20:30.240
That's for some reasons I'm not going to discuss on the show,
05:21:00.500
So I was just curious what type of guns you like to shoot.
05:21:11.380
we can go over to New Jersey and shoot cooler stuff.
05:21:15.320
I used to love to go to Oak tree when I lived here in Southern California.
05:21:33.300
They give you a series of rifles and I don't know much about rifles,
05:21:36.420
so I wouldn't be able to tell you what brand they were.
05:21:43.640
A squirrel that goes across the ground and the thing that shoots in the air.
05:21:53.500
What is that long gun thing that they give you at Oak tree?
05:22:06.720
you mentioned this during earlier with Charlie Kirk,
05:22:21.720
I don't think all women should do anything I say to do.
05:22:54.960
I'm actually just trying to kind of figure out,
05:22:58.640
kind of what your history is that you're presenting.
05:23:18.580
like if I ask you honest questions about the gold digging thing,
05:23:28.800
some idea of what it is that men see in you or wanting you or something like this.
05:23:39.760
does that even really sound reasonable to you or?
05:24:31.220
unless you can kind of point to something that I said,
05:24:37.340
when I said about 17 times that I came here not to argue.
05:25:13.060
I'm trying to think of this as like disagreements.
05:25:14.760
You said some of the enraged stuff is hard to watch.
05:25:22.140
You think being mean to people doesn't help the world.
05:25:25.360
So I don't like any of the clips where people are being cruel.
05:25:34.520
So you said you've seen some pretty cruel episodes.
05:25:40.920
You said you find it very cruel and rage clickbaity.
05:25:49.680
It's a show that can be so very mean and cruel.
05:25:52.760
The show is often very antagonistic towards the women.
05:25:56.880
I guess I wanted to get a better sense of what specifically,
05:26:03.940
what is cruel or what you found cruel or mean or nasty.
05:26:12.420
The algorithm probably showed me the most incendiary stuff.
05:26:18.160
I had never heard of you and the assistant connected us.
05:26:24.080
You asked me if I wanted to go in with Andrew Wilson and I told you,
05:27:03.980
you said you saw a lot of poor young women being verbally abused.
05:27:28.280
if you had told me to save it or send it to you,
05:27:32.520
Do you feel like Charlie Kirk was verbally abusive?
05:27:37.360
I was shocked how elegant and well-mannered he was today.
05:28:11.160
I would like to get a bit more of a precise answer again.
05:28:27.500
it's typically better to have these conversations in person,
05:28:43.020
I just don't think that being nasty is cute or funny or edgy or interesting.
05:28:47.280
I think being kind and helpful and looking for solutions and being positive is better for everyone involved.
05:29:05.620
I don't think being nasty is sort of interesting.
05:29:16.380
either real or perceived grievances when it comes to,
05:29:26.820
I like to hear people's criticisms of the show so I can potentially,
05:29:34.920
This is your project and you should do as you see fit.
05:29:43.660
I'm seeking out what your criticisms are so that I can engage with them.
05:29:49.160
I think some of the stuff that popped up first on YouTube was sort of ugly and I don't know.
05:29:58.240
I don't remember which videos I'll have to go back and look at.
05:30:13.460
To make people angry for clicks and likes and money is sort of icky,
05:30:20.800
my goal is never to try to make somebody angry,
05:30:48.360
I just think kindness is cooler and more interesting.
05:30:55.240
And I've told you like six times I don't have them.
05:31:48.780
he's definitely going out against it or something.
05:32:03.580
You don't think I really know how to fly a plane,
05:32:21.080
at least if you're going to try to ask me if I know my stuff.
05:33:16.500
I'm going to read a couple of chats while that's going through.
05:33:18.880
we had to switch it over to our backup internet,
05:33:20.780
which I don't know what's going on with our internet recently.
05:33:28.520
Training the suits in the back for the draft so they can vote.
05:33:51.440
The wife insisted on having the word obey removed from our wedding vows.
05:33:56.240
Do you believe that it is a woman's role to obey her husband?
05:34:02.640
Do you believe that it is a woman's role to obey her husband?
05:34:05.520
I think we already addressed this earlier when Charlie was here and he brought up that chart.
05:34:15.520
I feel like the fact that it was under God made a really,
05:35:13.560
rent a plane with the pilot to join the mile high club.
05:35:35.300
you should ask her what epistemology means to the panel.
05:35:38.400
Would you date a homeless person who decides to be on the street and homeless,
05:36:00.160
It's things like statistics and sociology and social sciences.
05:36:02.720
It's sort of the search for knowledge as opposed to like abstract math,
05:36:48.780
The second part was when you date a homeless person who decides to be on
05:37:03.220
If you decide to live on the streets and cause play a homeless person.
05:37:28.600
I don't need to like what hand told you guys all night.
05:37:58.060
Push yourself into the table so you can speak into the microphone.
05:38:35.600
Because the website used to be called seeking arrangement.
05:38:47.560
not actually getting dates with people just wanting to Netflix and chill.
05:38:59.560
over six figures and I didn't want to be a provider anymore.
05:39:04.900
I said I was looking for a long-term relationship.
05:39:07.360
And then his profile actually stuck out saying that he was looking for somebody
05:39:14.100
So we were both looking for an actual relationship.
05:39:20.840
What happened that the pilot talked shit while you were gone,
05:39:28.180
Do you want to just restate what you were saying while I was not paying attention?
05:39:54.160
And the reason I ask is because you're super butthurt and nobody knows why.
05:39:57.960
Nobody has any idea why you're so fucking butthurt.
05:40:01.440
But maybe you should just stop being such a brat and engage in the conversation.
05:40:09.920
but maybe you can just engage in the conversation.
05:40:29.300
I'm just curious about your backstory as you've been talking about it.
05:40:53.840
It had nothing to do with what I believe or don't believe.
05:41:04.180
It seemed like I just asked some basic questions
05:41:14.820
I just was following up on a question which was asked.
05:41:47.740
or was he like the first guy that you met on there?
05:41:50.360
I mean, I went on some meets with some other guys,
05:41:54.480
And so what was the nature of their arrangements?
05:42:00.720
Well, yes, but I wasn't looking for an arrangement
05:42:07.180
Because I couldn't find guys that made more than me on...
05:42:14.120
And you said your husband had consulted with Fresh?
05:42:31.740
I'm pretty sure he charges like four Gs for an hour.
05:42:43.020
This has gotten way up in the last couple years.
05:42:45.160
Wait, how long ago did he do this consult with Fresh?
05:42:52.420
So your husband updated his profile based on Fresh's feet, Walter.
05:43:14.380
How'd you like change your pictures if they're not good enough?
05:43:24.200
And you said that he retired you when he proposed so that you could follow your dream and go to law school.
05:43:33.200
So you were previously making six figures and you had a high level corporate director job in food manufacturing.
05:44:12.020
But I won't have to work, like, a crazy big law job working 80 to 100 hours a week.
05:44:16.940
I have a very little niche field of law that I want to go into.
05:44:25.200
Do you know how much you anticipate to earn, like, first, second, third year?
05:44:30.100
The companies I worked for, we paid our attorneys $1,500 an hour.
05:44:41.460
So, like, if companies go into, like, a recall, for a product recall...
05:44:45.260
...and you help deal with the USDA and the FDA and...
05:45:05.740
I go to the gym and I get my hair done and my nails done.
05:45:10.420
You said you were previously married to a bum for eight years who had no ambition and I made quite a bit more than him.
05:45:17.780
You also had become obese while I was with him.
05:45:19.820
When I left him, I decided to get my body back and you lost over 100 pounds and bettered yourself.
05:45:24.720
So, why, why, what was the breakdown or what was the cause of the breakdown of your previous marriage?
05:45:32.900
I mean, I honestly almost left him at the altar.
05:45:41.640
And I just, you know, kept getting more depressed and suicidal and I hated my life.
05:45:51.100
I ended up going to Uganda for a couple weeks on kind of a humanitarian trip and it was really the first time I had ever been away from him and I felt so free.
05:46:06.680
I worked with some high school girls and helping them work on college stuff.
05:46:16.300
You wanted to talk about roles in relationships, male-female equality, and how to attract a high caliber guy.
05:46:23.580
So, what did you want to speak on when it came to roles and then male-female equality?
05:46:36.340
I know I've heard on the podcast sometimes that, like, girls think that men and women are equal.
05:46:45.800
I think that they each bring different qualities to a relationship.
05:46:51.220
And that there are things that each of them are better at.
05:46:59.700
And you said you wanted to talk about how to attract a high caliber guy.
05:47:04.280
I mean, I think one thing that, a couple of things that I've learned from my husband and a couple other guys that I've talked to that, you know, he networks with.
05:47:17.880
They do want somebody with intelligence, even though a lot of times they say that they don't care about their careers.
05:47:22.700
I know I'm really good with all of his business centers and business contacts.
05:47:39.520
You said you're looking to one day get married.
05:47:43.560
So I want to get other thoughts and opinions about what to do, what not to do, where to meet quality guys looking for relationships,
05:47:48.900
common red flags to spot the possible red flags that I may need to work to improve qualities, traits, skills that guys would look for in partners.
05:48:01.300
So basically I grew up in North Carolina, which is Bible Belt.
05:48:10.620
I'm not really the kind of guy that I want necessarily.
05:48:13.340
Um, so I'm just trying to, like, find other ways to maybe better myself or, like, maybe new ideas of where to look for quality guys, that kind of thing.
05:48:24.600
Um, so if y'all have any ideas, please let me know.
05:48:29.840
Um, but also I'm trying to do stuff to, like, better myself.
05:48:33.860
Um, I do own a home that I'm, like, it's really fucking old.
05:48:37.900
But I'm working on, like, fixing it and making it better.
05:48:41.000
So even one day if I do get married and we don't live in that same town or whatever, I can then, like, provide a little bit more money, you know, that kind of thing.
05:48:49.120
So that was basically what I was trying to say.
05:48:52.060
And, like, that's something that me and my friends talk about all the time.
05:48:54.420
Like, we always try to figure out, like, what our type's type would be and then how we can become our type's type.
05:49:03.380
Where else besides, like, the church would you say you look for men?
05:49:06.840
Like, what other extracurricular activities, I guess, would you say you do that?
05:49:13.700
So, like, trying to find, like, mutual friends of friends, you know?
05:49:19.160
Like, you know 90% of the people that live there.
05:49:25.180
Like, we can go to Raleigh, but still, like, I've been to clubs before in Raleigh and run into 15 people that I know.
05:49:31.360
And then you get, like, caught up doing the whole, like, oh, my God, how have you been?
05:49:37.160
Yeah, you need to look for guys that are way outside your area.
05:49:44.360
It tends to still just be a lot of the guys that I went to high school with.
05:49:50.300
Okay, you said that, uh, now you said it seems like your audience, the whatever audience, is made up mostly of the type of man you want to attract for a relationship.
05:50:05.420
So, I'm looking for some honest, constructive criticism for what I can be doing differently better.
05:50:11.980
First off, she, guys, she's open to dating a whatever viewer, a whatever enjoyer.
05:50:16.800
So, but you didn't want your IG in the description, so that's going to be hard for them to, like, slide into the DMs.
05:50:26.620
The only reason why I really have social media is because for my job, I run social media accounts.
05:50:31.780
So, I have to kind of have one to connect so I can, but I don't think I've posted anything on social media since, like, 2016.
05:50:40.760
This applies to all the women here at the table.
05:50:42.300
If you want to be really attractive to a guy, there's only really one thing that you can do.
05:50:48.120
Well, there's a lot of things you can do, but this is the best one.
05:50:55.320
Like, literally, literally hit a full respect bow.
05:51:48.640
I think that wasn't a 90-degree bow, so that wasn't respectful.
05:51:55.000
I feel like even that wouldn't be enough for the men.
05:52:00.220
Yeah, for the type of guys that are watching this, they want you to fully, fully do it.
05:52:07.940
Yeah, like she needs to be on her knees and head down for a couple seconds.
05:52:37.420
Next time you see your boyfriend, just be like, oh, hey, Rupert.
05:52:57.720
Rupert, if you're watching this, if she doesn't bow to you, you're going to see him, what,
05:53:10.220
If she doesn't do the bow, you fucking come talk to me.
05:53:16.560
We'll have you come on the show, and then you can talk about, you know, dating shit.
05:53:37.500
I think it's fine, like she said, but me personally, no, that's an ick.
05:53:49.820
What if he's, like, your perfect bad boy, and he's just, like, bow?
05:54:20.240
Not a simp, because sometimes when they're too, like, affectionate, it's kind of, like...
05:54:26.760
Like, a little hard to get, but, like, not playing games.
05:54:47.480
I don't necessarily know that I would bow, but...
05:54:58.700
If you hit a bow for me, you're coming back on Tuesday, or...
05:55:09.220
If you hit a bow for me on the show, I'll try some Vegemite for the first time ever.
05:55:25.080
Like, I think, like, you guys, because you're, like, from a different state.
05:55:38.140
Like, you only put the littlest bit on, and it's, like...
05:55:43.560
You may not know this, but in the United States, we have the equivalent of a Vegemite sandwich.
05:55:53.300
Okay, but the thing is, is that, yes, they're not really that similar, right?
05:56:01.720
And the thing is, like, you know Vegemite is gross.
05:56:05.400
The same way that spam is gross, and the same way that pimentos and cheese is gross.
05:56:21.500
But I do think that a wife should be submissive to their husband, and I do whatever he asks
05:56:31.280
No, like, for me to be doing that, that's an ick.
05:56:38.860
Have you ever, like, hooked up with a guy the same day of meeting him?
05:56:56.400
No, I just was trying to see where you were going with that before I agreed.
05:57:01.580
Which one of you is shy, and which one of you is Emmy?
05:57:05.980
Sorry, you guys are, like, trying to do some twin shit right now.
05:57:17.540
So just to be clear, like, on your Instagram, it says you do GG and BG content?
05:57:26.620
And that was to someone who, like, I was talking to him.
05:57:34.580
So I wouldn't actually go and do OnlyFans with random men.
05:57:42.420
But, like, no, like, I'm just not like that as a person.
05:57:44.720
Like, you're only collabed with guys that shoot.
05:58:06.080
One of you said you like guys who kind of treat you badly?
05:58:14.860
So, oh, but you do like guys who treat you poorly.
05:58:23.220
So, like, I like a guy to like stick up for himself.
05:58:44.080
I'm not saying this isn't the case for all of you.
05:58:46.240
But like, there will be women who have qualms with some of these things.
05:59:02.120
But you'll fuck a guy on the first date and let them blast all over your face.
05:59:24.220
Like with the other men that I've had, I haven't had sex with them on the first date.
05:59:46.400
You won't like, you say, bowing to a guy gives you the ick, but you'll like hit after you
06:00:12.260
I think you guys kind of like give me Perth vibes, to be honest.
06:00:19.560
Just be honest, you guys are from like Western Australia.
06:00:26.360
Like, I swear to God, like, I'm legit from Goldie.
06:00:50.220
I can't see myself like, oh, hello, baby, and bowing.
06:00:55.860
He would get the ick and probably put my head in a wall.
06:00:59.680
Yeah, no, Australians are so much different than you think.
06:01:03.040
Like, if I was to bow to a guy and he's like, let's say my boyfriend of four years, he'd
06:01:09.260
literally put my head in a wall and I just know it.
06:01:15.260
If he was to sit down and bow at me, I'd put him in a wall too.
06:01:20.580
I'd probably break up with him for bowing at me.
06:01:38.500
Our icks are literally, like, so, like, out-of-pocket weird.
06:01:45.100
So then, if you get the ick from a man, is he still a 10?
06:01:53.880
If you really like someone, like, you get past the ick.
06:01:59.340
If you don't love him and you get the ick, is he still a 10?
06:02:05.200
And he'd do stuff that would usually give me the ick if it was any other person.
06:02:09.180
But because I liked him, I just, like, kind of brushed it under the carpet.
06:02:17.580
If it's a guy you don't really like and he gives you the ick, is he still a 10?
06:02:25.380
The ick is, like, very, very, like, it, like, really, like, damages him.
06:02:31.080
Yeah, like, honestly, probably, it would make you buy not a 10.
06:02:37.080
However, if you get the ick from a guy who you don't like, is he still a 10?
06:02:51.340
But when you get to know them and if they give you the ick and stuff like that, you're
06:02:59.620
So then earlier, when you said every man was a 10, you were kind of fibbing a little
06:03:06.020
So every man is a 10, except the ones that give you an ick?
06:03:08.940
You're a 10, and look, you're giving me the ick by having a guitar in the background.
06:03:12.160
I mean, you're, like, giving me the ick because you have a stupid accent.
06:03:15.340
So do you think that we can get back to the conversation at home?
06:03:18.300
Do you know why I get the ick, like, on this podcast?
06:03:22.780
But anyway, back to where we're at, can you explain very quickly, very quickly, my Vegemite
06:03:27.980
eating friend, is it true that if a man gives you the ick, he's no longer a 10, or isn't
06:03:37.320
Suddenly, suddenly, suddenly your brain doesn't work.
06:03:41.320
If I like you, and I don't love you, and you do something that's an ick, I will get
06:03:47.240
But if you're a random, if you're, if you're, if you're a random person, I would not get the
06:04:02.280
Um, I mean, if you were my friend and you give me the ick, you're, I don't know how to
06:04:11.920
But do, do you think that you can just give me a direct yes or no to my question now?
06:04:16.060
Um, but I don't really want to answer that because.
06:04:18.780
I know you don't really want to answer it because it would prove that you were fibbing and
06:04:23.800
So do you think, do you think now you can answer honestly?
06:04:27.200
If a dude gives you the ick, he gives you the ick.
06:04:33.740
That you don't actually think he's a 10 at that point.
06:04:57.880
What you should do is you should go buy, you should go buy some like, I don't know, some
06:05:08.120
No, I mean, I think it would suit your personality.
06:05:14.060
You're one of those chicks, you saw another chick, she's rowing a boat out in a field and
06:05:17.900
you were like, you stupid blonde, you're lucky you don't come out there right now and kick
06:05:22.300
You're lucky you don't swim out there right now and kick your ass.
06:05:32.340
I was just thinking about if you were to be bald, you'd be so much hotter with your
06:05:38.500
But if you were just hot, you'd be so much hotter.
06:05:43.260
It's like, if we're doing tit for tat, it's when somebody who's, I don't know, a three
06:05:51.280
You're sitting there talking into a mic, making me thousands of dollars.
06:06:05.420
You would do a lot better though if you were, you know what?
06:06:08.700
The audience, both on the whatever side and on my side, they would actually like you a
06:06:18.320
So, if you're just honest, and let me just ask you directly, if a guy gives you the ick
06:06:23.220
who you don't know that well, is he still a 10?
06:06:33.360
But, like, if I don't know you and you do something that's ick, I wouldn't really say,
06:06:42.900
So, I mean, if you're being honest then, if we're just doing, if we're doing, like,
06:06:46.260
the honest thing, not every man's a 10 and not every chick is a 10, right?
06:07:04.380
Well, are we actually doing that or are we not doing that?
06:07:13.900
Wait, what would you say is if someone gives me the ick, they're, like, not a 10?
06:07:21.440
Like, if we're going to backtrack, we're going to be totally honest with each other.
06:07:26.860
Not every man, I mean, probably most men, aren't fucking 10s.
06:07:32.180
And not every woman, and probably most women aren't 10s, right?
06:07:41.860
But, like, no, that's only under one circumstance.
06:07:55.240
No, but, like, no, everybody's a 10, and now we're on the ick subject.
06:08:00.300
So now, if you're going to give me the ick, like, you have a guitar in the background now.
06:08:11.260
No, but, like, only if you give me the ick, you're not a 10.
06:08:15.120
Yeah, no, but you just got done saying just five seconds ago in the conversation,
06:08:19.960
yes, of course, Andrew, not every chick is a 10.
06:08:25.300
So, like, why earlier, earlier when we brought this up, like, why were you messing around?
06:08:33.660
Was it just because you didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings?
06:08:39.420
But is it just that you didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings?
06:08:53.180
And you must be at least this tall to date Andrew Wilson, and you're not.
06:08:56.820
And you must have an American accent, and you're not.
06:09:00.500
Before you so rudely interrupted me with words I don't even understand,
06:09:03.680
because your accent's so thick, it makes no sense.
06:09:20.420
We were like, we're about to have this great honest moment.
06:09:26.200
There was honesty between me and you, and then you just kind of messed the whole thing up.
06:09:29.160
Okay, between me and you, between me and you, if you bow for me, I'll answer your question.
06:09:35.220
I would rather drink turpentine and piss on a brush fire than bow, not just to you, but to any Australian.
06:09:49.900
I don't believe in any type of big cartographic conspiracy.
06:10:01.080
If we were, let's pretend that you were honest for five seconds, right?
06:10:11.880
Yeah, we're just going to at least pretend that that's true.
06:10:26.840
Stand up, do a little curtsy, and then maybe I'll consider the bow.
06:10:35.600
Okay, I'll give you the answer, but you have to do the curtsy first.
06:10:46.780
You give me a bow, and I'll give you the honest truth.
06:10:49.280
No, you give me the curtsy, and then I'll think about giving you the bow.
06:10:58.820
I thought you just said I was the hottest thing you ever saw.
06:11:14.020
Yeah, the name of all that's wrong with kangaroos.
06:11:25.800
Is that actually an ick to not seeing a girl curtsy?
06:12:08.440
Because you think I'm going to give you a curtsy.
06:12:16.020
I'm starting to feel like you're a little bit disingenuous.
06:12:19.860
Like, you might not be being completely honest with us.
06:12:28.560
It's such an ick that I'm talking to him through a TV screen.
06:12:33.880
Yeah, but I mean, I'll be there in, what, like a week and a half.
06:12:50.280
Like, I can still see it, even if I'm not there.
06:12:53.940
I can still see it, even if I'm not present in the room with you, right?
06:13:23.760
Do you want to do the makeup wipe thing for the beard?
06:14:19.040
I think you've got to get your American accent.
06:14:33.840
Look at how far along I am on this fucking Minesweeper shit, boys.
06:14:44.700
Well, it starts with a mind, which is a thing you don't have, and then it moves over to
06:15:04.520
In the spirit of aviation, G.D. Violet seems legit to land a dead stick emergency landing
06:15:11.260
It seems suspect with the transactional amounts just to enjoy a pilot's company.
06:15:26.900
Since we've been talking about ics, you get one ick.
06:15:47.800
That gives you the ick if they don't laugh at the jokes.
06:15:50.740
Yeah, like I'm like all of a sudden uninterested.
06:15:53.800
Have you ever had a guy who you really fucking liked, but he would never, like he wouldn't
06:15:58.520
No, I feel like that only happens with like, like once they start getting, huh?
06:16:04.000
No, like I feel like I'll get that ick like with like my exes, like, like randomly, like
06:16:08.920
I'll make a super funny joke and they won't laugh.
06:16:10.760
I'm like, you would have definitely laughed at this.
06:16:15.940
So not laughing at your jokes gives you the ick.
06:16:37.940
So if they're right all the time, so is your boyfriend like, when you guys, when you and
06:17:01.760
When they act rich on social media and then you come back and do a nice night out.
06:17:10.160
Brian needs to apologize to Jojo and get on his knees and propose.
06:17:14.460
Dot also Brian on full passive aggressive troll here.
06:17:20.740
So many examples of her baby tantrums and passive aggressive.
06:17:26.560
Well, I'm not going to get on my knees for Jojo.
06:17:28.860
And also, Brian can spell passive aggressive and you can't.
06:17:39.840
When they act rich on social media, but then you come back to his after a nice night out that I paid for.
06:17:45.340
And his car got taken away by debt collectors through finance.
06:17:51.660
A lot of these dudes be on social media flexing up there.
06:17:59.500
But, like, he acts rich and then, like, I'm the one paying for the date.
06:18:13.820
Is these dudes will buy fake Instagram accounts and it'll be anywhere from, like, they'll give themselves either 50k or some of these guys are really brash.
06:18:23.260
You ever, like, seen a guy with, like, 10 million Instagram followers and you're, like, you Google this guy?
06:18:37.900
I, like, went through and they're, like, they look like bot followers.
06:18:46.720
They'll, oh, buy, like, 100k fake followers, 300k.
06:18:49.880
Some of them will buy these, like, 10 million follower accounts.
06:18:58.220
And then they'll DM a chick and some chicks will be, like, naive to it.
06:19:02.100
And know that, like, this guy's actually a nobody but here's he posing with some fucking, oh, here's me in Dubai, blah, blah, blah.
06:19:15.600
If I see a dude who's, like, fake flexing, that gives me the ick.
06:19:24.980
Um, like, men at the gym that are just, like, grunting, like, really obnoxiously, like, loud.
06:19:36.520
Like, the whole gym can, like, hear you working out.
06:19:43.980
Can I ask a quick follow-up to you on the gym thing?
06:19:48.480
Why do you think it is that all-female gyms fail?
06:19:52.720
Why do you think that women always seem to want to go to gyms where males are, and they
06:19:57.080
don't seem to want to ever go to all-female gyms?
06:20:04.980
Yeah, I know, I know, but it's not a question for you.
06:20:07.480
All-female gyms don't have enough actual equipment.
06:20:16.060
Yeah, so, I mean, if all that grunting is the ick and it's annoying and this and that,
06:20:21.120
why is it that you think that somebody hasn't cornered the market, like a man?
06:20:25.360
Couldn't a man open a gym that was just for women and just make a killing so you didn't
06:20:31.580
have to see all those icky fucking men making all those evil grunting sounds?
06:20:36.940
Well, I think it would be better if a woman opened up a gym for women that want to work
06:20:47.520
Well, it's really weird because when people open these all-female gyms, the all-female
06:20:53.540
It's almost like the women want to work out where the men are.
06:20:57.440
I mean, I've never been to an all-woman's gym, so...
06:21:02.520
You would think that if all of these icky men were around who were trying to check out
06:21:06.680
all these women's asses and, you know, kind of coom all over them, and you were just,
06:21:13.080
you know, the ick, you got the ick from the grunts and all of this, you would think that
06:21:17.320
tons of other women would have that same feeling and you would just make a killing by having
06:21:32.220
The biggest tick is Fat Boy Andrew with those huge bacon-greased titties.
06:21:36.920
He call other simps but marries single moms and take care of other men's kids.
06:22:00.260
Been watching the clips for several months now.
06:22:03.340
As someone that grew up with no dad figure, this podcast is very beneficial to young men.
06:22:11.580
First off, thank you for tuning in for the first time.
06:22:45.680
Like they're fucking squatting like 400 pounds.
06:22:48.640
I mean, I've seen people do it without like being obnoxiously loud.
06:22:52.460
I mean, I feel like sometimes people might do it for attention that they're lifting like
06:23:00.940
I get the ick when it's raining and then a guy pulls out an umbrella.
06:23:12.620
I prefer to like get drenched than have an umbrella on top of my head.
06:23:23.320
Like, why do you have an umbrella in the first place?
06:23:25.360
And then it starts raining and then they just pull out like an umbrella.
06:23:48.100
Because I feel like he ticks it off, gives it to you.
06:24:18.580
It's like an actual disease that people are born with.
06:24:21.400
I know some people, but maybe people just do have wonky ankles.
06:24:29.260
Sorry, all the guys out there with wonky knees.
06:24:35.800
The redhead in the corner is so cute and so feminine.
06:24:39.160
I'm recently single and need to work on myself, but I hope when I'm ready,
06:24:56.040
If you do, and if you don't have wonky knees, it's a deal breaker.
06:25:01.980
Either somebody that's not intelligent or somebody who is intelligent that refuses to
06:25:17.080
Like someone that like laughs really hard at their jokes when it's like not funny.
06:25:47.060
Please describe to us the general purpose of a qualitative EMC checklist with respect
06:25:59.940
You're talking about like emergency management?
06:26:08.240
I don't know what a qualitative EMC checklist is.
06:26:11.200
And they don't exist for every type of aircraft.
06:26:13.620
I would know because I've flown a few and we didn't have something called that.
06:26:23.600
I mean, there's checklists, you know, fire in the engine.
06:26:25.700
There's checklists for lots of different stuff.
06:26:27.520
But qualitative EMC checklist I have not heard of.
06:26:41.900
Oh, somebody who doesn't keep their word for the most part.
06:26:48.720
What about like something weird that a guy does though?
06:26:51.520
I'm like thinking about it because mine is like so basic.
06:26:55.920
Like someone should always keep their word, but.
06:26:59.520
I mean, that will just give me automatic failure.
06:27:09.860
I was going to say uneven tans, but I guess that doesn't hurt me too much.
06:27:20.280
So that's going to be like neckline, wrists, and ankles.
06:27:34.080
Well, so I would actually, there are women who come on these panels and some of them are
06:27:41.040
quite intelligent and they have these kind of great back and forth because they've thought
06:27:46.440
through all the issues that they're talking about.
06:27:49.400
I mean, some of them have been, I mean, basically in every single seat you've been sitting in,
06:27:54.420
all of you women, there's been a woman there arguing successfully for her worldview.
06:28:01.780
And then there's Australian trolls and they give me the fucking ick more than anything else.
06:28:08.240
And it's only because in my defense, because they're so fucking stupid.
06:28:13.240
One, go to a hardware store and buy some clips to keep those stamped boards in place.
06:28:18.780
Two, with cues to the panel, alternate which ends to start.
06:28:23.460
Sometimes we never hear from the left side table.
06:28:28.360
Yeah, we need to do something about the boards and then.
06:28:34.400
By the way, the Australians in chat are saying they don't claim you.
06:28:41.200
They were saying, find a different penal colony.
06:28:56.480
They don't want y'all to be from their country.
06:29:08.000
I know you like your country, but your country meant your country.
06:29:29.780
The American knows the Australian national anthem better than you.
06:29:35.020
Australians, oh, let us rejoice, for we are young and free.
06:29:49.120
Dude, you guys are going to lose your fucking citizenship when you go back there.
06:30:00.800
I put two surgeries on my right knee, so yeah, I think I qualify for wonky knees.
06:30:08.180
I can shoot my shot at some time that doesn't mind.
06:30:18.600
You need to come back, get your knees fixed, and then you'll be exciting Nova.
06:30:42.180
A land of bounty nature's gifts, of beauty rich and rare.
06:30:56.120
Two does, two 13 and 14 year old boys rubbing one out to you online give you the ick.
06:31:03.880
Damn, Gracie, why you gotta bring it there, son?
06:31:07.040
Andrew, Andrew's not gonna work with me anymore now that I've sang the Australian national anthem, though.
06:31:15.900
So, I'm sorry, Andrew, but I just know that I watch too much rugby.
06:31:24.360
Yeah, you guys, do you guys like fuck with the wallabies or what?
06:31:50.500
I mean, maybe if you shared a photo, I don't really.
06:31:52.800
The only, wait, I don't really follow footy or anything, or like soccer, if that's what
06:32:01.840
You don't know about, you know about the drop bears?
06:32:17.800
What part of Australia are you guys from again?
06:32:23.720
I'm pretty sure you guys live in like, um, uh, Christchurch, New Zealand.
06:32:38.060
You put on a good accent, but I think you guys are lying.
06:32:53.180
It's a bear that drops from a tree and attacks you and eats you.
06:32:54.920
In Australia, the bears will drop out of the tree and, like, drop on you.
06:32:59.240
And then it will try and tackle you to the floor.
06:33:09.540
Yeah, and it landed on my back and I fell to the floor and it fed me Vegemite.
06:33:16.400
You should go to Australia so you can have a drop bear experience.
06:33:23.700
Australia, foster, foster, foster, foster, Australia.
06:33:31.720
So, Leia, you also said that, hold on, let me see my notes here.
06:33:36.980
You said that the worst first date I went on, the guy spent the whole time telling me about
06:33:44.420
And then he hit on the, oh, he ignored the waitress.
06:33:52.280
And the whole time he just talked to me about his friend that had passed away like two or
06:33:58.140
And he just seemed like he really needed to like vent about what he was feeling.
06:34:06.280
It was super awkward because like the waitress came over and was like, hey, can I get y'all
06:34:09.840
drinks and like get your order and stuff like that?
06:34:12.060
And he just talked the entire time and like, after like three minutes of standing there,
06:34:20.220
We just sat at the table for two hours on like a Saturday night.
06:34:25.340
He felt like, I felt like he needed to just talk about this.
06:34:32.380
I want to do, I do want to go back to the whole you dating a guy who did meth thing.
06:34:37.020
So, you guys were on again, off again for over a hundred times and he did meth.
06:34:43.920
Like, you must have seen some crazy shit, right?
06:34:47.420
That's why in my message I said there's a lot of stuff that I think is probably TOS that
06:34:52.220
Did he ever, like, would he, were you guys hooking up?
06:35:00.400
Are you like waiting until marriage or I'm confused?
06:35:20.520
We also need to fix the F-I-N-G posters on the windows or put the uniform girls in front
06:36:05.200
I'm just gonna double check if I got through all my notes, and then we'll do, like, a roast
06:36:08.920
session, and then we'll do a couple things, and then we'll wrap up here pretty soon.
06:36:15.920
Guys, you need to roast Madison, and you need to roast me.
06:36:20.820
It's been too much on, you know, the panel here.
06:36:46.640
I honestly care less what insult I would say about any of this, right?
06:36:52.240
Anyone else notice the whatever TTS banner looks like a phallic symbol in Andrew's mouth?
06:37:03.800
If having boobs qualifies as femme, Brian laid bloomer.
06:37:22.700
It's only an island full of two-headed inbreeds.
06:37:54.760
The red Hamburglar has a sweet personality and I hope she finds a good guy.
06:38:19.660
Madison, that piece of pizza is bigger than you.
06:38:23.580
For everyone that thinks my head is big, this pizza is almost as big as my head.
06:38:31.820
You remember how they used to always be in front of me?
06:38:42.080
We were using like Rusty's or like Domino's or, you know, going around the table, or wait,
06:38:48.060
really quick before you leave or have to get up, going around the table on this, have
06:39:07.520
Like when I was in high school and I used to like text guys all the time, yeah, I had
06:39:12.120
a little roster before I eventually found a boyfriend.
06:39:15.160
Probably like, I don't know, like five guys I was texting, but like it was nothing sexual,
06:39:21.120
nothing, you know, just like dating perspectives.
06:39:35.040
I date two right now, so I guess it's a small roster.
06:39:49.140
Anyway, yes, I've had a roster, and I still have a roster.
06:39:54.000
I like my roster, but it's not always the same.
06:40:30.360
So, like, I'll get rid of one guy, and then the next...
06:40:32.960
And then the next one will come, and then it just, like, fucks off like that.
06:40:36.200
And then the new one comes, and that one goes away, and that one comes.
06:41:20.220
Can we get the Butterface Aussie girls to kiss?
06:41:38.960
Wait, so you guys share a roster and the roster is, like, 50 deep?
06:41:42.100
No, like, we don't share all the time, but sometimes...
06:41:46.380
Okay, so, like, how many dudes currently are you, like, seeing actively?
06:42:11.660
These two aren't high-valuable men donated $69.
06:42:28.820
So, I was just, like, two days ago on Tim Pool's show, and he has a massive indoor skate park,
06:42:36.000
and that guy can fucking skate, and that dude is definitely not broke.
06:42:43.240
Uh, you were about to say, like, how many people are on the...
06:42:46.280
Um, right now, on the roster, I'd say about maybe 25 that I'm seeing.
06:42:57.880
Yeah, we try to, like, keep, like, the same number, so we can, like, keep count, and sometimes,
06:43:01.460
like, when a guy's finished with me, they'll, like, go to her, and, like, vice versa.
06:43:27.120
Do you guys want, like, a really, really corny one?
06:43:29.500
Because, like, I don't really know any other, like, funny jokes.
06:43:45.700
May we recommend you get a bigger cocks to handle all of your needs?
06:44:12.420
You just can't stand having anything questioned about your degeneracy.
06:44:22.480
Good job on the upgrade there with the name, bro.
06:44:31.560
I need you to update, upgrade to, like, Sublime Nova.
06:44:36.340
Exciting is not going to fucking cut it anymore.
06:44:57.920
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
06:45:07.820
Yes, and sometimes, sometimes, like, he'll be in my room first,
06:45:30.060
You're trying to do the most provocative thing you can do.
06:45:41.260
Next person who sends in a TTS triggers a missile.
06:45:48.360
Guys, the missile, we're sending the missiles, boys.
06:46:26.320
It only started since, like, about five months ago.
06:46:30.360
So, like, if we were to ask you to be honest again, I know that that's in the realm
06:46:36.440
How many actual guys are you dating at the same time?
06:47:08.920
The Aussie twins should take some advice from the peers on the panel.
06:47:12.580
If you keep degrading your value with of, you both should consider marriage to the Island
06:47:40.920
They're like, we can't have these fucking chicks on this American podcast.
06:47:45.140
The Aussies came in with their, um, like, World War II era, because, I mean, you know,
06:48:03.000
If there is a woman who is sleeping with 30 men, um, not at the same time, but is sleeping
06:48:10.580
with all of them within intervals, very close, back to back to back, on a rotation, would
06:48:16.580
you consider that woman to be a slut going around the panel?
06:48:25.880
But other people who aren't you, so going around the panel, would you consider that
06:48:40.180
So back to the rest of the panel, who's not you, would you consider that slutty behavior?
06:48:56.760
So if there's a woman who's sleeping with 30 men, at various intervals, but she's dating
06:49:04.120
all of them simultaneously, she's sleeping with one Tuesday, one Wednesday, maybe three
06:49:08.660
Thursday, maybe four Friday, would that be, stop talking, would that be considered slutty
06:49:42.400
First time saw this pod thought Maddie was a lady boy.
06:49:46.280
Only when she extends her arms and they invert, know she's lady.
06:50:33.740
These twin in briefs from noobs who make wanna smack my pee-pee on the boardwalk until it
06:50:39.660
Rather a dead pee-pee, then pee-pee something like that down.
06:50:48.840
I'm gonna pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft.
06:51:06.120
I wanna know if it's considered skankish behavior.
06:51:12.180
Yeah, skankish behavior to be doing 30 different men.
06:51:22.080
Well, I mean, when you're not aiming at trolling.
06:51:30.360
By the way, if I was in your seat, just to show you that a man could do everything better,
06:51:34.020
if I was trolling in your position, I could do it way better.
06:51:44.100
Andrew, do you think you'd be more successful on OnlyFans than them?
06:51:53.420
After all, according to her, I'm the hottest guy I've ever lived.
06:52:03.740
Didn't some of the girls send screenshots of dating apps?
06:52:19.600
So you're on dating apps just to get more, like, simps or whatever?
06:52:42.060
I mean, it's only up there just looking for a friend or something like that.
06:52:47.800
It's not like I have that under relationship status.
06:53:02.100
But you can just call me Emi if you can't pronounce it right.
06:53:09.740
Would you rather be the king's mistress or a peasant's wife?
06:53:37.200
This girl's just, she's like, what's it called?
06:53:48.880
Okay, so just real quick, just as a very fast follow-up, with a raise of hands, if it was
06:53:56.820
considered by almost all women on planet Earth to be immoral, to be the king's mistress
06:54:03.760
rather than the peasant's wife, who would change their answer with a raise of hands?
06:54:34.260
Um, if you are with a man, specifically because they are powerful and rich, but you're not
06:54:41.740
interested in them for any other reason than just their wealth and their power, are you
06:55:03.740
It sure sounds transactional, but isn't the king's mistress just transactional?
06:55:09.300
Didn't all of you just basically call yourselves prostitutes?
06:55:13.460
No, I'm saying being a prostitute is transactional.
06:55:23.520
And so you're willing to, based on want thing, to sleep with person to get thing.
06:55:30.940
Does that mean men who want a submissive woman are transactional in nature?
06:55:36.860
In essence, all relationships are transactional.
06:55:40.240
In essence, all relationships are transactional.
06:55:43.000
No, we can assume for a moment, for instance, if you loved the peasant and he became rich,
06:55:58.040
You basically all just called yourselves prostitutes.
06:56:03.660
No real country declares war on and sends its military after birds.
06:56:19.560
It was the great emu war, Australia or some shit.
06:56:33.960
We'll do a half-off champagne pop if anybody wants.
06:56:43.040
All right, we got to do the half-off champagne pop.
06:56:57.720
I hope any of you who partake will have a shot with her.
06:57:00.980
Brian, your OG prank videos inspired a lot of confidence with me back in the day to go out and talk to PPA.
06:57:12.180
We're perhaps going to do a little testing this coming week.
06:57:43.220
By the way, I'm changing the TTS for the next three TTSs to a French voice.
06:57:48.380
So, it's going to come in with like a French accent.
06:58:05.500
So, if any of you want to, you know, write in French, it'll actually speak French.
06:58:16.280
Ladies, would you first off, ladies, scroll down a bit so we can see that photo.
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Click, click, just, ladies, would you date this guy?
06:59:07.620
Minimal impact on the overall, had no impact on the overall emu population.
06:59:15.160
It was led by Major Gwinninid, Pervais, Winn, how many fucking names does this guy have, bro?
06:59:20.800
Winn Aubrey Meredith of the Royal Australian Artillery.
06:59:26.500
And I'm just saying, like, fallow caused by emus.
06:59:45.760
Would you date a guy who participated in, like, an emu culling?
07:00:07.860
I mean, honestly, if he doesn't go 50-50 on the first date, sure, why not?
07:00:22.520
A couple questions, then we're going to do the rest session, then we're going to wrap up.
07:00:40.440
Who's the, hang on, who's the primary victim of specific hypotheticals, men or women?
07:00:50.640
Who's the primary victim of hypotheticals that are specific, men or women?
07:01:08.260
Eh bien, c'est pas, c'est pas, c'est pas gentil, ça.
07:01:11.400
Tu dois vraiment, tu dois vraiment dire, c'est pas, c'est pas gentil.
07:01:36.720
Bring the Trois Yappé in the back, close to Amique.
07:01:46.180
Maddie, Maddie, listen, listen, Brian can't stop this.
07:01:51.760
Make them want it, but don't give them any of the pizza.
07:02:08.100
Pork is actually the closest, has the closest relation to humans,
07:02:39.800
Yeah, so you don't have any moral objection to meat?
07:02:44.640
So then what the hell is wrong with me going out,
07:02:46.400
blasting a pig in the face, and then eating its face?
07:02:50.420
Well, you're American, so you can do anything you want to do.
07:03:20.500
Okay, I thought I said that, but if you didn't hear that, then, yeah.
07:03:38.000
I'm just wondering what the moral objection is.
07:03:40.720
Yeah, anatomically, they're the closest to humans,
07:03:52.540
No, the way that their brains are, not the closest to humans.
07:03:55.620
Oh, did you know cannibals, people who eat people, obviously, when they try...
07:04:03.600
Are you saying that pigs are closer, as far as the brain goes,
07:04:19.820
Is it problematic, especially for older individuals on the panel,
07:04:23.500
to bringing someone home to perform 3D slash gun maintenance
07:04:26.660
for a cosplay pilot event while caring for pet slash kids slash teen humor home?
07:04:36.200
Are you saying you think that pigs are closer to human beings than apes?
07:04:48.540
Okay, so then I would say that if you were to eat a monkey,
07:04:52.760
that would be a lot closer to a human than a pig, right?
07:04:59.140
Yeah, so I think you're just talking about the digestive system,
07:05:08.260
I just want to make sure I got this clear, then.
07:05:09.960
You think a pig's brain is closer to a human's than a great ape's brain?
07:05:18.620
but I think a pig's brain is closer than, let's say, a chicken lamb.
07:05:21.560
Do you think that we evolved from, like, I don't know, pigs?
07:05:24.740
Or do you think that we, if you look at the evolution,
07:05:27.380
would you say it's more of an ape-like creature?
07:05:46.180
Yeah, so then an ape would be closer to a human than a pig, right?
07:05:58.980
I don't know where he got the idea that people don't eat monkeys and apes,
07:06:04.960
I don't know where he got the idea that they don't,
07:06:09.980
I think she's talking about, like, the texture.
07:06:22.420
But, like, evolutionary-wise, we're closely related to, like, apes.
07:07:40.780
You don't know who Seven of Nine is from Deep Space Nine?
07:07:44.640
Andrew, I know your favorite fucking movie is Starship Troopers, right?
07:07:57.500
Andrew, would you have carnal, to save the human species, would you have carnal knowledge
07:08:08.240
Would you have carnal knowledge to save the human?
07:08:18.800
So I answered your, hang on, Brian, I answered your question.
07:08:35.860
Would you have logical sex with a Vulcan, Brian?
07:08:52.140
Would you have logical, would you have the most logical sex ever with a Vulcan, Brian?
07:09:03.480
I mean, it's illogical to do anything but that.
07:09:22.780
You find out your boyfriend's an alien, do you continue having carnal knowledge with your boyfriend?
07:09:29.560
Like, he opens up here and it's like a little, you know what I mean?
07:09:53.840
Like, you can't hit it and quit it with a fucking alien.
07:09:56.200
But like, what's the long term of, I don't think so.
07:09:59.420
Bro, some of these girls, like, you hit and quit, they're slash a tiger.
07:10:02.000
These aliens, they'll fucking blow up the planet.
07:10:04.740
Like, an alien comes down, it's like the boss of aliens.
07:10:07.020
And they're like, how do you say your name again?
07:10:12.900
You are never getting into the United Federation of Planets.
07:10:27.120
I don't know where, I don't know how I got to this.
07:10:44.420
Because you're in this, like, United Federation of Planets.
07:10:47.520
And it's basically some big, massive communist super center.
07:10:51.620
And only people, by their merit, are judged in this particular system.
07:10:58.540
Would you, would you date a guy if he had a food replicator?
07:11:06.200
I mean, if he had a food replicator, he's like the only guy who can create wealth, which
07:11:12.020
So, so if he was the one guy who could do that, would he be the only guy you would date?
07:11:22.400
Yeah, it just makes food out of nothing, essentially.
07:11:29.320
Yeah, so the guy with the food replicator, that's the guy you're going for.
07:11:33.680
Whatever will get you to talk to somebody else, I will say it right now.
07:11:38.720
Well, not only are you a phony baloney, you know, person who fires guns, but you can't
07:11:59.440
Carly is just so expensive and I don't have of money.
07:12:37.680
I might have gotten up like right when I saw that, but I don't know.
07:12:49.120
Andrew, can you enlighten the panel on Eastern feminism, particularly the Bolshevik feminist
07:12:56.980
I'll have my people send you a bottle of vodka and Russia chocolates.
07:13:01.640
Well, considering that that's a very communist way to put that, I'll take the vodka and chocolates
07:13:13.860
Otherwise, I feel in the sense of a good comrade like you must be that I'll never actually get
07:13:20.780
I'll give the explanation, but I'll never get the vodka and the chocolates.
07:13:30.400
Andrew, I love you, but seven or nine is Voyager, not DS9.
07:13:44.000
Is that a massive L for, is that the first L for Andrew tonight?
07:13:49.820
That would have been fun if she would have like, you know, been engaging and funny and
07:13:54.220
But other than that, maybe, maybe I took an L for the chat.
07:14:27.160
What is one piece of advice slash tip for young men struggling to find partnership in this
07:15:16.360
I don't know if the champagne pop is still $500.
07:15:20.640
But this is for Andrew for the shop and 90 zebras on the crucible.
07:15:29.820
Before we do the champagne pop, though, Brian did say $500 for the pop.
07:15:33.600
Let me tell the woman, bring me down a shot, woman.
07:15:38.300
But now she has to get her lazy ass up and bring me a shot so I can cheers with you guys.
07:15:42.620
While we're getting that, you got to min-max yourself, bro.
07:15:45.400
If you play World of Warcraft, you know, you got to min-max.
07:16:17.860
Go to where you're, go to where you are appreciated.
07:16:32.160
Also, this is like if just nothing works, there's better things than posting.
07:16:38.760
Also, also, grow out your beard and get a really good haircut.
07:17:13.140
So my recommendation, if all else fails, dude, find a hobby.
07:17:18.080
If after making a good faith effort to self-improve, you can't find success, just start surfing, bro.
07:17:25.420
Getting some, like, honestly, getting, like, waist to chest high, like, glassy ring con.
07:17:33.220
I'd rather get chest high ring con, glassy, preferably no crowds, than, like, the best pussy in the world.
07:17:42.360
I'm telling you, bro, surfing's way better than pussy.
07:17:55.240
I know geographically there's not waves everywhere.
07:18:04.060
I know it sounds crazy, but I'm telling you, you catch that first wave, you get that little, that little speed on the first wave, man.
07:18:10.580
I'm telling you, bro, you're going to be fucking hooked, man.
07:18:13.360
It's going to be fucking, you're going to be fucking frothing.
07:18:24.940
Not the, not the vaginal tube, the, the, the wave tube.
07:18:28.480
I think you're discouraging them at this point.
07:18:31.300
I, I, like, I would rather, okay, here's the crazy thing.
07:18:38.020
Um, I'm just saying there's better things than like sex and dating.
07:18:42.820
You ever, you ever surfed where you live in LA?
07:18:50.800
The crowds are fucking terrible, but the waves, the wave is good.
07:19:03.460
I, I'm more like, Leo Carrillo's a little better, but like, the, it's a point break,
07:19:14.100
It's like, well, pa, you come out, do the fucking.
07:19:33.180
How does it feel to save single moms and take care of other men's kits?
07:19:56.960
Is it problematic, especially for older individuals on the panel, to bringing someone home to perform
07:20:02.580
3D-slash-gun maintenance for a cosplay pilot event while caring for pets-slash-kids-slash-teen-humor home?
07:20:46.600
Use your face to block it from hitting the screen.
07:21:06.700
Can I get, like, a little paper towel or something?
07:21:19.540
Mainly because I love my women like I love my fish.
07:22:17.900
Well, I've got a whole bunch, like basically a whole bottle of vodka here, so I'm ready when
07:22:28.340
Here, I'm going to leave it here for just two minutes.
07:22:30.580
If somebody does another champagne pop, she has to drink this whole thing.
07:22:45.800
We should have a little pizza party right here real quick.
07:24:04.560
Because I want to have a pizza party with the girls.
07:24:29.560
If you do another 500, we'll pop another champagne bottle, and she'll drink the whole thing.
07:24:35.120
Well, then, maybe I should wait, because, you know, I'll match.
07:24:40.700
Wait, Maddie, can you pour it so I can just, like...
07:24:49.980
Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
07:25:42.800
Go to twitch.tv slash whatever and drop us a file.
07:25:53.000
I, like, had my hand on the table when I sat down.
07:26:05.880
If you have one, Maddie's going to pour some liquor.
07:26:11.160
Boys, it's been 17 minutes since there's been a prime.
07:26:18.680
I'm trying to do Dr. Evil, but it's not working.
07:26:27.100
Guys, drop us a follow on a prime sub over on Twitch.
07:26:31.880
Because Maddie's going to start doing streams over there.
07:29:04.500
especially when it comes to the spirit of the thing.
07:29:25.760
Andrew, you're on the hook for a drink and Russian chocolates.
07:29:29.120
We can send Brian some water and Russian chocolates.
07:30:26.800
While I'm doing this, Maddie, why don't you ask the question that you always like to ask?
07:30:41.760
Do you guys object to a man caring about your body count?
07:30:55.060
Say a man that you're dating or going to date, a dating prospect.
07:30:59.580
I feel like any man I've dated hasn't asked me for my body count.
07:31:11.940
I've honestly only shared it because I was curious what his was.
07:31:17.340
So I, you know, by nature told him what mine was just in conversation.
07:31:24.400
I haven't had, like, a high-value man ask me that.
07:31:39.700
Well, just how about take a decent, you know...
07:31:54.600
Well, I didn't tell you to spit it back out, but okay.
07:33:02.920
Somebody in Twitch said somebody get the stomach pump.
07:34:02.460
Why you got to throw me under the bus like that?
07:34:05.460
I thought you were, I thought you were my Caucasian.
07:34:51.240
I don't know if I really want to debate it, but I will just say, you guys, any of you
07:35:02.740
So just concede the point and just say, Brian, you're right.
07:35:05.760
I'm going to crawl under this table and cry now.
07:35:07.380
I thought you were about to say something else after that's the first part.
07:36:18.000
Well, I still have what's left of a mixed drink.
07:37:35.500
do you object to men caring about your body count?
07:37:38.740
I've also never had a man who cared about that.
07:37:49.240
I'm going to lose my man card if Maddie opens this shit.
07:38:19.760
Yeah, that's how I did it when I was a bartender.
07:38:36.260
Because if not, his hand's just going to slide.
07:39:33.800
No, you're literally going to be blacked out and ganged.
07:40:27.160
Well, he donated a grant, so that's technically two champagne pops.
07:40:39.080
Champagne pops, if you're going to do any more.
07:40:49.640
So, okay, Maddie's question was, oh, man, my hand's, like, tired, boys.
07:40:59.000
I'm going to get carpal tunnel syndrome from that.
07:41:40.560
The next upgrade, since we're out of champagne...
07:42:28.420
It's less funny now that I'm explaining it, but...
07:43:16.740
So like I had to put one there, but yeah, growing up, I always went to Catholic private
07:43:30.020
But I don't go to church or anything, but I am like...
07:43:32.640
What does the Catholic faith say about you like having current knowledge of like 30
07:43:46.820
I'm not really like interested in that stuff anymore like I used to be, but I did it.
07:43:52.900
Like, obviously, like before, like when I went to school, like I was a lot more Catholic
07:43:58.560
and then when I like left school and then started like working, then like I did...
07:44:02.540
I wasn't really like into like into that stuff anymore kind of thing.
07:44:15.380
Like I always went to Catholic private schools growing up.
07:44:25.200
Like, I guess I kind of just left school, started like another job, and then I kind of
07:44:33.740
Now, forgive me, I wasn't here at the start of the stream.
07:44:46.580
Um, not really like my dad, more like my like mom.
07:44:59.140
If you're talking in the mic while I'm talking, it cuts my audio out.
07:45:05.960
Just, just put your hand up so that I know that you're talking.
07:45:09.360
Um, but, but back to where I was at, mom's a Catholic, right?
07:45:23.100
So, so mom, mm, uh, does not approve of the OnlyFans?
07:45:32.800
Well, she doesn't really say, she can't really do much, but she just doesn't support it.
07:45:45.080
I mean, he is, but like, he's not really like involved as much as like my mom, like my mom is.
07:45:52.940
So mom is, um, I don't know, uh, more dogmatic.
07:46:01.360
Like I wouldn't say that she's like really into it, but like, like her growing up, like she went to like Catholic schools as well, whether my dad didn't.
07:46:08.100
So like my dad never really got brought up in like a Catholic household, but my mom did.
07:46:25.400
And like, I value her opinion, but I am an adult and I can do what I want.
07:46:30.720
I'm not disputing that you can do what you want.
07:46:35.280
But when you, when you sit down with mom, if you're like, let's pretend for a second, you're having that heartfelt conversation with mom and you're sitting down with mom and you say, I'm on OnlyFans, mom.
07:46:56.380
You're sitting down for that one heartfelt combo where mom says, sweetheart, can we just talk?
07:47:06.420
And you sit down with mom and you explain to her everything about your OnlyFans.
07:47:26.000
Oh, she just said that she was disappointed and that like, she wishes that I went down like the other path.
07:47:31.440
But at the end of the day, I am an adult and I can choose what I want to do with my life.
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But all she can do is just support me and try to tell me what, what is right and what's wrong.
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But at the end of the day, she can't control my life.
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You think your mom wants the best for you even if you can't see what is the best for you?
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And hasn't she always been that way ever since you were a little girl?
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Then if she says to you not to do OnlyFans, why don't you trust her?
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But when you were a little kid and you wanted to stick your finger in the light socket, you
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wanted to stick your finger in there and she said, no, sweetheart, you can't do that because
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I love you and I want to make sure that you don't hurt yourself.
07:48:30.860
I want to make sure that you don't do something terrible to yourself.
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What changed from knowing that mom knows everything about her little girl?
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And now, at this one pinnacle moment, you say, fuck off, mom.
07:49:03.740
Um, I guess, like, my age and, like, what comes with it and, like, yeah.
07:49:20.620
I don't even think we're talking about anything untoward.
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I'm like a baby and then realize it's not a good...
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She took care of you your whole life, made sure you reached adulthood.
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You didn't stick your finger in the light socket.
07:50:16.020
Why is it her one piece of advice is don't do this, and you just say, fuck off, Mom.
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I don't really fuck to answer that question, because I'm not going to win with you.
07:50:44.300
You're just going to keep trying to, like, say shit.
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Like, I'm trying to, like, it's too late, and I want to go...
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Yeah, like, I'm trying to explain to you that, like, obviously, like, it comes with age,
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and obviously, like, as I get older, like, I'm not going to listen to some things that,
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like, my parents think, but you just keep arguing, so just...
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As we were having this great-spirited conversation that you butted into, I'm just curious.
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If we're talking about you and your mom, and you say, mom loves me, mom has taken care of
07:51:28.460
me my entire life, she absolutely adores me, she just happens to be wrong on this one
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thing that she's adamant that I don't do, why don't you yield to her wisdom?
07:51:44.080
I think that was a checkmate, and I think you checkmated, Andrew.
07:51:47.140
And I want to answer this question, and it's getting boring now.
07:51:50.680
Yeah, I know, but I don't care if you're bored.
07:51:53.740
You know, the funnest part of this entire night is this exchange.
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This is the exchange that people will look at, and who cares if you're bored?
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I want to know the fucking answer to the question.
07:52:06.400
Can you actually answer the question, or can you?
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Put some shrimp on the bobby and answer the question.
07:52:10.420
Well, what if I don't want to fucking answer the question?
07:52:16.960
So, the question is, why don't you trust your mother now, even though she kept you alive
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till your majority, and she tells you to stop being a whore?
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She kept you alive your entire life, and now you're a whore.
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I already actually said she doesn't want to answer the question, so.
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She doesn't have to answer the question if she doesn't want to.
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Is she so stupid she can't answer the question that I asked her?
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I'm having a singular conversation with one person.
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I don't want to answer your fucking question, Ray Todd.
07:53:39.960
Why did you choose humiliating people as a job?
07:53:49.520
Andrew, she's so stupid, she needs me to speak for her.
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So, if she can speak for herself, I'm asking her the question, not you.
07:54:04.840
Just like the other girls said, I don't want to answer this question, and they go off.
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I've already tried to explain it to you, but you just don't comprehend it.
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With that said, with that said, we're going to do a brief roast session.
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Call me a retard like you called Andrew a retard.
07:55:04.060
Andrew, what is the fastest, most solid argument to shut down feminism?
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I've been trying to change the hearts and minds of the women I work with.
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All you have to do is ask them a single question.
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Do you want a society which is non-patriarchal and watch them do all sorts of mental gymnastics
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And every time you prod it, you'll find out that they do.
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Wait, did the one that said, Andrew, you're a real one telling them how it is, did that
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Andrew, you're a real one telling them how it is.
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So that would be me asking the question that wasn't answered by your fucking idiot friend.
07:56:10.660
At least now we know it wasn't water that we were drinking.
07:56:25.580
Chemical warfare being invented caused as estimated 90,000 plus deaths.
07:56:34.700
Um, that, uh, the, the mustard gas, the mustard gas, that shit was crazy.
07:56:41.380
Brian, the council has convened in an emergency session tonight.
07:56:45.480
Your man card has been suspended for 30 days because of your repeated inability to pee.
07:56:57.040
Why do women have one brain cell more than a chicken?
07:57:10.340
Maddie, ask your question about the body count really quick.
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We keep like, we were only on the second person.
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Five hundred, twenty-five thousand, six hundred.
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Listen, we're not going to do Rent in here, okay?
07:57:45.460
If we're going to do Rent, you do Bohemian Rhapsody.
07:58:00.380
I will grab the guitar and play that if you will sing it.
07:58:04.000
Oh, I won't sing it, but somebody who can sing should sing.
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Remember last time you were on the show, you had a not-a-virgin shirt?
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I mean, technically, if we're going to speak in technical terms, yeah.
07:59:29.620
Brian, Brian, you're kind of playing the save a little bit.
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Let's pretend for a second that I only tell lies.
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Let's pretend for a second I only tell lies and you only tell the truth.
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I've slept with 25,000 women and you've slept with how many men?
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If Gal in the black said zero, then I would say zero.
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From your perspective, zero to one, would you say at least one from your subjective metric?
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Has this person at least had a single P in the V?
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I think that it could be between 1,000 and 20, and I think that you would never give us
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Why would I make myself look silly if like there's like friends in that?
08:03:20.700
Hashtag you make yourself look silly all night.
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Every time you're on the show, you make yourself look like a joke because you're an annoying troll.
08:03:26.760
The one thing people can determine from this conversation is that you are one dishonest troll.
08:04:06.460
You would have had a way better showing if you had come in and you had been honest.
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I don't know what it means either, but it was insulting.
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It's a Vegemite sandwich nonsense from a bunch of trolls.
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You don't even know what half the words you say means.
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You don't even know what half the words you say.
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He should sign up to be president in the United States of America.
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You're pissing me off now because I'm so tired.
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Please tell me you're drunk or something because you can't be this annoying.
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You can't be this bad at trolling and be sober.
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Please do yourself a favor and save yourself some wrinkles and go tuck yourself in bed.
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I'm asking how awesome I am and how much of a failure you are.
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Do yourself a favor and save yourself some wrinkles.
08:05:52.800
Save yourself some wrinkles that you got on your forehead and go jump in bed.
08:05:56.380
Do yourself a favor with all the Botox and the bullshit and just understand your terrible
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control and I'm ten times better at it and you failed miserably and I owned your ass all
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I reckon you should sign up to be President of the United States of America because you're
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You just said that I'm off from every particular way and then you failed at trolling?
08:07:04.340
Andrew, I swear you've been chain-smoking them all day.
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Imagine she doesn't love her mother to care enough.
08:07:57.940
Far right's cleavage is the best I've ever seen on the panel.
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You're telling me the stingrays came for me before these molasses?
08:09:45.680
Would you rather be alone in the forest with a bear or an alien?
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Me, personally, alien, but for this Andrew guy, I'd love to get him a grizzly bear so he can
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Does it change if there's, like, a probe in the forest?
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We're going to do these last few, and then we're wrapping up the show.
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First time Donna, but long time listener, W to B and A.
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Also, can we see Nick never seen that man ever?
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What changed that she won't trust-slash-listen to her mom anymore?
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Having intelligent conversations with Andrew seems to be super difficult.
08:11:30.940
The assy twins should sing a song for the future.
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Now I understand why koalas get high off of eucalyptus.
08:12:00.360
Putting up with Australians would be Helen the one in the black dresses.
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Can you blow a kiss into the camera right here?
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I had a long day fighting light tards and foreign vehicle lovers lol.
08:12:22.740
But, well, good job on wrecking the libtards, but to the ladies.
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If somebody DM me her ad, I'll try to invite her on the show.
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To the twins, anyone ever tell you you both look like trans Richard Spencers?
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Also, if Brian wasn't an effeminate weirdo with a D cup, would you let?
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Wait, so he's asking, if I wasn't, if I was not an effeminate weirdo with, first off,
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Actually, I thought I was going to be beefing with you on the podcast.
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It's okay, because after this podcast, you probably wanted to.
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Andrew, we're having to laugh, and you take it so dark.
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I'm just saying, I just doubt you're going to want to tangle with me again.
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When I'm more awake than not 1 a.m. in the morning, I would be weird.
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Gohan underscore S underscore realization donated $30.
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Immy, maybe you can't answer because you know deep down what you are doing is slash feels wrong.
08:14:22.980
Maddie is hugging that fake baby like it's going to save her from the deranged strumpets around her.
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The sad part that nobody in that room understands.
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Andrew and Ozzy's strumpets mother are the only people that give a shite about her soul.
08:15:17.160
What do you think about Austria starting both world wars, yet the whole world blames Germany?
08:15:59.620
Two bratty wannabe Lindsay Lowans in the back shut the puck up.
08:16:16.180
Have you ever noticed that Australian girls love fake tan?
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It's almost like everything in their life is fake, including their answers.
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If you had it joined about eight hours ago, you would have heard.
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Whose dick do I have to suck off for a pilot license?
08:17:27.220
RP Aquatic, can the pilot lady land a plane on the crying Aussie's big-ass forehead?
08:18:02.680
I am superior, but only because I have a full head of hair.
08:18:15.260
Butterface twins, did you get French kiss by a mattress?
08:18:17.760
Damn, bro, because you both would be pro at plank to mouth resuscitation?
08:18:34.280
We got to finish your dating app, then we got to wrap the show up.
08:19:51.780
Guys, it's been 47 minutes since we've last had a Prime.
08:20:02.100
I should have announced this the previous times.
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We should do like a pool episode of the whatever.
08:20:23.540
Yeah, you have to put it in the right category though.
08:20:29.760
So if you're watching on Twitch, just check if you have a Prime because I think our Twitch
08:20:34.520
We haven't gotten any Primes in like 47 minutes, boys.
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And like thank you for like the tier ones, you know.
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We're going to be raiding Andrew after this, boys.
08:21:56.100
Well, we're raiding Andrew, but then on Twitch, we're going to be raiding.
08:22:00.740
While I'm doing that, any final thoughts from the panel?
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It's so irrelevant to drag on everything for no reason.
08:22:18.320
If he's in another one on Tuesday, can we please mute him the whole time?
08:22:21.580
He can just sit there and watch and wish he could say something, but he can't.
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Yeah, you know who's not saying that you're a legend?
08:22:54.900
You're just trying to be a wannabe, any female who's here, who's good looking.
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Remember how I asked you if there's any woman here who's better looking than you?
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But I was lying earlier and I don't know what to say now.
08:23:38.080
You know, they don't have those sayings over there.
08:23:47.840
I mean, if you guys want to keep beefing, you can, I guess.
08:23:49.680
No, I don't want to keep beefing because it will never end until 5 a.m.
08:24:05.140
An Australian woman definitely broke his heart once upon a time because he has something
08:24:24.140
Nick, we're going to rate Frostadonis on Twitch.
08:24:26.480
I do appreciate the psychoanalysis, but you should really emphasize the psycho portion
08:24:58.840
Don't pull it up quite yet because I just need to get through the outro here.
08:25:12.460
Okay, look, I did have a debate on this with Jake Rattlesnake, who is the official emperor
08:25:40.240
The Aussies look a little skeptical about it being a fun show.
08:25:43.480
Can you at least say it was a fun show that was a fun back and forth that we were just
08:25:48.480
It was fun, but, like, it was really fun, but...
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Look at her busting up laughing because that was actually funny.
08:26:09.400
You don't want to be Donald Trump, but you're Donald Duck.
08:26:25.860
You would be so much better and so much funnier if you didn't drag on everything you said.
08:26:34.340
You have come into your troll and you sucked so bad that you got out trolled by me and I
08:26:46.900
Like, what are your dreams and hopes and just to you, I just want to know.
08:26:51.460
What are your dreams and aspirations and hopes?
08:26:58.700
Anyways, we're going to wrap up the show, so...
08:27:26.280
We do want to actually give you a chance to shout your channel out to everybody where they
08:27:34.460
Shout your channel out to everybody where they can find you.
08:27:40.180
Anyway, back to you, Brian, if you're going to close the show.
08:27:50.340
Steve Murphy, yo, had to choose the one word that's not allowed.
08:28:20.820
I'll tell you how many cigarettes I've smoked this year.
08:28:29.440
I will tell you how many cigarettes I've smoked this year.
08:28:32.060
If you tell me how many dicks you've sucked and you're honest.
08:28:48.080
I just want to go home and go to sleep and get a good night's sleep.
08:28:57.020
But I just need to recover all the way to Tuesday.
08:29:12.180
Of all the inventions of the last hundred years, the dry erase board has to be the most
08:29:42.480
Ladies, don't walk away from this podcast negatively.
08:29:46.500
This whole team is trying to open the dialogue and explore viewpoints through conversations.
08:29:53.800
And actually, the women on the right, I would have enjoyed, I think, tangling back and forth
08:30:02.480
And by the way, the Asian gal in the back, not you.
08:30:05.220
But the two Aussies, yeah, they're just low-tier trolls.
08:30:08.560
They kind of ruined it for the rest of the panel.
08:30:24.200
They're provocative, and I'm more provocative than you just owned them.
08:30:37.800
I know I'm selfish, but I do my best not to care.
08:30:48.920
I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you
08:31:25.680
Do you commit on the whatever podcast to stopping only things?
08:31:35.500
Do you know how much money I'm going to make tonight from this?
08:31:48.700
The two girls from Riverside have been thinking this shit.
08:33:11.360
Imagine a full-fledged stumpet trying to shame you.
08:33:16.680
You suck the deep for a living, so no one will ever respect you.
08:33:24.700
Just making the Aussies wait a little longer to make sure their night is just a tiny bit worse.
08:33:47.700
It's actually really funny, though, because the Aussies are so much more worse than you guys.
08:33:52.880
We are looking used to this on the daily basis.
08:34:15.300
So I got to ask, Maddie, if you'll do me a favor, just real quick.
08:34:20.160
As we sign off, can you grab a piece of pizza, just because I want to settle a bet in my chat?
08:34:29.160
Just grab a piece of pizza and just kind of, you know, like do your thing with a piece of pizza while we wrap down.
08:36:06.260
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
08:36:09.100
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
08:36:11.560
So, we're actually going to be live again on Twitch tomorrow, twitch.tv slash whatever.
08:36:18.860
Still sort of a test stream, but, you know, I think we're actually going live early tomorrow,
08:36:24.100
We might push it because we went pretty late tonight, so we'll see.
08:36:27.640
Yeah, we'll see about the timing, but we will do a stream tomorrow, so be sure to tune in for that.
08:36:36.340
Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram, if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
08:36:40.580
We're going to do a Twitch raid to Nick, if you can pull it up.
08:36:46.180
Who's going to boost us in the Wailing Covenants when we get Elder Quests?
08:36:53.600
He's playing Fresh, Classic Fresh, World of Warcraft, Classic Fresh.
08:37:14.360
All right, because he lives in Romania, you know?
08:37:49.920
The best dating podcast in the world, probably.
08:38:05.940
Would you date one of the girls from the whatever podcast?
08:38:49.820
Anyways, let me just make sure we don't have any other chats.
08:38:55.180
By the way, Andrew, congratulations on hitting 100K on YouTube, man.
08:39:05.860
None of it had to do with anything related to Australia.
08:39:33.840
I'm sending a raid over to Andrew via YouTube or whatever.
08:39:41.140
We will see you tomorrow on Twitch with a Madison stream and then Tuesday back on YouTube with another dating talk.