ONLY 1% Of Men Attractive?! She ONLY Dates Narcissists?! Men Are LAZY?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #171
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we talk about how to make sense of the modern dating hellscape, what it's like to be in a crypto-dating world, and what it means to be single in the 21st century.
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welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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hellscape i'm your host brian atlas thanks for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere
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here that i'm just going to trigger immediately so uh k donated two hundred dollars k that was that
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and uh but what was i saying uh if your chat or tts
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run the south bay ultra marathon with me in san diego this august i told you before it started he
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asked me ultra marathon she's been training that's hard i told him he said would you run a half marathon
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or a marathon and i was like oh maybe i would do a half marathon he was like okay it's in a month i was
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like okay that's wait did you do it no it's way too little time i need more time to train it's still
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what 13 miles for half a marathon that's that's a big ask ultra marathon i'll i'll do like um like
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the 100 meter dash sign me up for that i can do it the jog 100 meter jog okay uh where were we
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we've been we're going to be posting bts stuff i added another bts thing the other day
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uh it was of it was one of the uh fail from uh last tuesday's show we had a little slippage so
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uh not not a real slippage but we thought it was a slippage in any case we had to restart the stream
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and then a karen one of the karens on panel freaked out on at me so that was fun but we had
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to restart the stream so you guys missed that if you saw the secondary stream anyways oh also
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got to do a little thank you to uh to razor uh they sent us a gaming chair madison is going to be
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sitting in it today nick's nick you've been sitting it for the pat we got like two weeks ago right
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you've been sitting in it instead of the herman millers right yeah yeah so uh thanks to the team over
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bro thank you for hooking it up thank you razor appreciate it and uh yeah so disclaimer the views
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have had maddie up in the front anyways it's okay with that said without further ado we're going to
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have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead
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um jojo i just recently graduated with my master's in joe strumpets the bow video donated 69 dollars
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uh cool thank you man uh we'll we'll show them the bow video we'll show the bow video later
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go ahead so i just graduated recently with my master's in international affairs i'm 25 years old i know
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i also somewhat twitch stream with curb of being and i'm from los angeles 25 right yes all right and
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you just graduated uh last friday you said for with a master's in international affairs okay from where
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ucsd okay nice what about you um i'm abby i'm 21 uh i live in santa barbara now but i'm originally
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from vermont and i don't have an occupation and i'm pretty happy are you a neat am i neat
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yeah are you yeet no are you a neat n-e-e-t right not in employment education or training i believe
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that is me okay so you're neat you're neat that's what's up yeah you're neat uh you're from vermont
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when did you move to santa barbara like a year and a half ago you've been out here for a year and a
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half why did you move to santa barbara um i don't know it was pretty and i liked it had you been before
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or you just found it on the internet you're like cool place yeah okay yeah so did you have a job
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lined up or you have family out here no so you just rolled the dice from vermont yeah what part of
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what we're in vermont um by like the quebec border like northern okay yeah so and you haven't had a
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job for a year and a half no like i had a job but i just like got fired like eight months ago
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and i haven't picked it up since because why would i do that why did you get fired um i was
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working at like a nursing home embezzlement what no i'm not really sure they just didn't like me
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and they fired me i thought i was good with the old people though i really did anybody
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pass away on not good enough did anyone perish um yeah people did but like no i mean because of you
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i hope not okay i don't know why i'm asking that but so they just didn't the old people didn't like
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you or your co-workers didn't like you uh my co-workers
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is it because you were from vermont no um there's a lot of bigotry against
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people from vermont yeah no they just didn't like what i did they thought i was like what do you mean
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what did you do what why did they tell you why not really um like i got a letter stacy perralt
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donated 100 thank you we provide and protect when we receive the submissive respect
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word what the yeah that's well put but we so wait stacy i guess stacy could be a man's name
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stacy are you a man or a woman i've heard i've heard of man male stacy's right you could be a male
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because he says we or she says we i don't know see yeah what gender is ambiguous is it are you a man
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are you a woman but stacy in any case thank you for the uh tts appreciate it uh okay so you were fired
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um yeah and so you've been out of a job for i don't even are you like you got a trust fund what's
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going on no your parents own a maple syrup conglomerate i mean that's not too far up i don't
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have parents though i'm just like oh are you like a i'm just abby like it's fine yeah are you
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orphan you could say that oh okay does does does that require like an uh oh i'm sorry to hear
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that you know like if somebody's dad passed not at 21 not at 21 it's still sad no i'm just wondering
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like you know like for example when it comes to new years like if you said happy new year in april
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people be like the fuck you talking about oh sure so is it like is it ever too late to be like oh
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i'm sorry i'm sorry you're an orphan no i'm sorry it's your first time hearing it honestly
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sorry but like is i i don't know i don't know what the social uh etiquette etiquette is do you if
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somebody says that they're you know if they're in if they're 21 but they say they're an orphan
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and does it warrant does it warrant like one of those like i'm i'm sorry to hear that i guess it
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just depends on the vibe you can hit it with a dad about it do you gotta think were you adopt were
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you adopted or no were you in an orphanage or no like are you not even an orphan did i just make
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assumptions no i'm definitely an orphan i was in like foster care for like a year oh okay me too
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okay but so you did get placed with the family like you were adopted for a year and then they
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kicked me out so wait but so you said for a year wait at what age did your parents pass away my mom
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passed when i was 16 and then my dad passed when i was like 17 ish i think it warrants a sorry yeah
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that's awful sorry to hear that sorry to hear that sorry abby that's okay um and so uh you were in
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vermont you moved here not in work you just been surfing what are you doing i can't swim actually
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you you should you don't know how to swim i don't know how to swim can somebody get this girl some
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like floaties for i have a pool noodle that i keep in my car like a fucking one that's awesome
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danielle lilval donated 69 dollars nicolette definitely gained some weight did she quit off
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depression and shame must be eating at her first of all okay me and nicolette are joining weight
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watchers okay so you be nice to the both of us okay listen you know we've been we've been going
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through stressful time right we've been we cope by eating right we're coping okay all right don't
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come for my girl nicolette okay anyways so you going to school no school no sir so what do you what
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are you doing to keep yourself busy um i go to yoga like a good bit okay just because like what else
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you know yeah um i hang out with random people on hinge i usually don't like them when's the last
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time you were on a hinge date uh two nights ago okay abby goodbye yeah oh definitely not good did you
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guys have carnal knowledge that's a later question come on was there carnal knowledge no i told him
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he wasn't my type and then that was not any like physical type or personality yeah he was very white
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well wouldn't you have seen that in his pictures yeah yeah no i did i just like thought i'd like give
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him a chance wait very white so he was you didn't he wasn't your type because he was white or he was
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pale no he's he's just like white like so do you not date white guys not usually sorry nick
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um what so what's what's your type then um i love i love mexican men um but like that's why she came
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to santa barbara yes that's exactly why i'm not in california not enough mexican men in northern
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vermont there's none it's like right by the canadian border right why didn't you go to san diego or
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close to the border i mean should i like i can't san diego is right next to well every state's a
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border you could go to texas natalie has insight on this topic but um san diego is like two hours
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from tj or you just moved to mexico yeah no that's a great wait is it just mexicans what about other
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latinos like do you fuck with costa ricans it's just not as good like i love them tall and like
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tall wait curly hair tall mexicans yeah i know it's rare but i do you like the edgar cut is that
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what they're called is that what they're called it looks like a broccoli head it's it's not great
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no uh okay what about like nick oh my nicaragans anonymous donated 100
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holy shit i'm so sorry to buy you seem like a nice person and it's heartbreaking when terrible
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things happen to good people yeah sorry to about the yeah the orphan thing i'm sorry i am sorry
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that's fucked i i would i'm 35 i'd be all fucked up if my parents passed away so all fucked up anyways um
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no no i'm not saying you're i'd be like i'd be i'd be i'm not saying you're fucked i'd be like
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fucked up in the sense of distraught grieving anyways wait so okay uh brazilians or are they too white for
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you yeah no like it matters it definitely matters they're too white it's nice i like that so just
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mexicans what's north what's south of mexico like there's the country that's water i was like
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no the panama canal belize panama yeah panama panamanian panamaniac el salvador if they have
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dark curly hair that's really you're gonna love panama anonymous donated 69 dollars
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brian is extremely fucked up so don't worry about a thing you've got this yeah we got something in
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you did have a problem with that bug in the bathroom i was trying to get me to pick up a bug
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for him right yes that's definitely not true that's that's 100 true i didn't want you to pick
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it up i wanted you to squish it oh so that's even more fucked up what's wrong with you i was in the
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middle of putting my contacts in i couldn't i gotta keep my hands you just well you just toilet
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paper but then you should have done it uh okay so you don't what about like asian men
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no i have like dated um like two asian guys it was okay um but now like i'm really dialing in i
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really know well two days ago you went on a date with a white guy yeah i mean he was there he was
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available i'm just confused because i mean if you're so strict with your type of it being
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has to be mexican guy like was this guy like catfishing like he kind of looked mexican the
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white guy no um i think i just wanted like a friend to hang out with and he was very upset about
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that my bad my bad damn okay all right we'll come back to some of that stuff later nicolette
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introduce yourself please uh anonymous donated 69 dollars brian can you tell us your current weight
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and how much weight you've lost in the last two weeks guys it's bad i'm like 215 i lost five
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pounds though i'm losing it it's gonna boys it's coming off it's coming off i'm gonna my goal by
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the end of the year is like 190 180 oh you got that easy peasy are you gonna change the outfit
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when you lose the weight the flannel's coming back call the date off for donated 69 dollars
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glasses on the top left of the panel is for sure a 10 would definitely put a ring on that
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okay oh corgi oh like that's my husband does he have four four corgis yeah we have
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four four i guess i thought we had five okay okay can i have you just tilt your mic up oh i'm sorry
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my bad no tilt tilt it up there that's good that's good that's good okay go ahead nicolette
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i'm nicolette i'm 24 from orange county and i do only fans and i'm a dancer all right welcome back
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nicolette what about you i'm julie i'm 25 i'm from vancouver bc oh wow okay mike davis donated 100
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dollars i'm glad she didn't say black cause i would have passed her right on to them spikes
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btw brian if you ever get banned on the tube you'll always have open job offer to flip burgers
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at one of my joints that's mike davis right there um w that's rough buddy w burger king he owns like
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100 burger kings uh they're chicken fries thank you man uh yeah you know look the youtube thing
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might not you know always uh always you know who knows what what is in the cards i guess so
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uh i'll probably just disappear move to hawaii anyways um go ahead julie 25 from vancouver bc
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um i'm a full-time student in accounting and i also do only fans what do you think of pierre polivier
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i need to look into more but listen all politicians today are kind of crazy
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yeah they're all crazy do you prefer him over trudeau they're both terrible choices they're both
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both terrible okay all right i don't know anything about canadian politics nobody does
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not even canadians what about you oh wait actually you described yourself as a certified e-whore
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e i thought it was e-slut whatever same thing what so what makes you there's just only fans
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brian you're fat as fuck bro come run the south bay 24 with me to embrace pain and suffering
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jo joe joe you said you'd run but never got back to me you're fake and now you must run the south
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bay 24 damn did you did you i said i would run a marathon he gave me or half a marathon did you stand
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him up no what happened was he said would you run a half marathon i was like oh yeah i would do that
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and then he was like okay this is the date and location i was like i didn't know he meant like
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with him in person like at this event this is crazy crazy i just thought you know it's crazy
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there's a chance i could be murdered thank you chase uh yeah definitely well i mean look i i can
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tell you personally i've actually you know yeah i've met bro naissance uh he's a very good guy okay
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he's a good man he's only um i'll keep that in mind next time yeah i mean he he went one time we
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were camping right and he did save me from like a pack of uh bears no no no it was the coyotes but
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it was they were it was not just one like one coyote i could fuck up but if there's like 10 of
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them it was like a pack of coyotes yeah those things are you know how did he save you a pistol
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yeah he's got he's a good shot 10 coyotes with a pistol yeah sure he's a sharpshooter wow
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he hadn't he he brought an ar-15 so hello brian yeah thank you coming from england huge respect for
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keeping patience with these 304s guys we use strumpet here keep it going things are hard over
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here but keeping the patriarchy going as hard as i can keep it based isn't the uk lost what's that
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song by the uh the kinks killer of cereal donated 69 dollars panel what's up ladies and brian
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question what is the most embarrassing thing you can remember doing or happening to you on any dates
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what's the most embarrassing thing you can remember doing or happening to you on any dates most
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embarrassing uh i'll save that after the introductions but i'm just going to write it
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down okay uh kill of cereal gets to see you in the chat good to see you back thank you major scumbag
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donated 69 dollars i'll be overhead isla vista in an f-18 within the hour if you need close air
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support i got you no need for your coordinates the snail trail can be seen
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oh fuck that was really loud my bad the snail true trail these strumpets leave by can be seen from
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from space from space from liberty donated 69 dollars dang bro trans women are men and it would
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be gay for a straight man to date one yes you can be racist towards white people fjb all right
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free trump thank you 2024 okay sons of sons of liberty thank you thank you appreciate it we got
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another one coming in i'll try to get through these intros it's just one after the other thank you
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guys so much for your support appreciate daniel donated 69 dollars okay women lose their
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innocence when they sell themselves my friend used to say that every time he banged a prostitute
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he took a bit of their soul what do only van's girls lose part of themselves too it's just you
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two who have of right w do you guys just i guess simple question do you guys feel you've lost
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part of your soul i didn't have a soul before i started that checks out okay what about you nicolette
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uh no i think i still have a soul still have a soul i've lost you're preserving your value as a
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woman when you sell yourself online yeah it doesn't matter to me you think you're you're worth five
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dollars a month well mine's 17 20 bucks get it right madly it's 17 not even in the triple digits still
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in the double well it caps out at 50 a month i wouldn't know i've never been on only fans so i
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guess you got me there yeah i feel like this this conversation can continue keep going guys
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fine yeah keep going go ahead madly no i'm just curious do you think it's cool to consider yourself
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an e-whore are you proud of that no i think it's a joke it's just funny wait it's just stupid
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you think it's funny to demean yourself as a hundred percent yeah yes i do it's funny
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i'm just curious i maybe don't get the joke what's so funny about you know some jokes aren't for
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everyone so could you explain it uh yeah whores it's funny it's it's fun to be a whore no no it's
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funny funny to be a whore yes okay um do you ever plan on like having a family having kids do you
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want to get married i'll see when i get there i don't know what whatever happens happens living
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in the moment sure why not okay wow that's pretty depressing that's fine yeah i'm chilling i'll go with
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that so i've never seen someone so flippantly be okay with selling their body and soul online i'm
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chilling sorry i'm chilling dollars a month but um so how many dollars a month it's 20
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brian underscore drinking underscore game donated 69 dollars taking shots whenever brian says it
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occurs to me good times answer the question can you move your mic that way i have a neck injury
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uh blacked out i need to do like a whatever bingo thing that it's like there's going to be a one for
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grid one motorsports there's going to be a one for uh move the mic or the broad essence donated 69
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dollars jojo and brian i need a yes or no to the race request question for the panel israel or
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palestine no who are you rooting for bro i hope both sides have a great time bro come on bro
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naissance almost adam bro how are you gonna how are you gonna like i'm talking just answer the
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running question i'm talking you up dude i'm trying to say you you hooked you fought off uh
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burgess donated 69 dollars coyotes woman to the right is extremely based give her all the time wait
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who's i think it's her no it's right it's probably dude i think it's jojo thank you burgess appreciate
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it uh do you guys want to continue on with your little back and forth there go ahead we didn't answer
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your pronouns hers is 20 yeah not 70 20 dollars sal brian sarva donated 69 dollars merci beaucoup
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maddie will be on twitch maddie is starting twitch maddie on twitch maddie's twitch when bro maddie is a
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10 you need to instead of is a 10 you should have just said in french actually i shouldn't even say
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it because it's kind of like you know okay anyways whatever uh go ahead guys if you want to continue
00:26:49.800
with your little back and forth there for a second what else there is to continue with
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uh i mean she she's gonna call me home and be like yeah
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well so then what's so for someone who doesn't think that being a whore is great what is so
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empowering about being a whore i didn't say it was empowering okay so if it's not empowering what
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about it makes it great i'm just getting my bills paid and finishing school so it's just for money
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yes so would you be okay with i don't know being a hit man just because of the money you don't look
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at them i got bills to pay i need food to eat i feel like you'd be okay killing people mike davis
00:27:25.360
donated 69 dollars everybody pull up to the trump rally at north carolina if you want to meet the
00:27:31.920
legend mike davis i'm a trump mega donor and i might even give out some bread to some of you brokies
00:27:38.340
dude mike davis good to see you in the chat man it's been a while i haven't seen you in a while you
00:27:42.020
know you're always welcome here at whatever uh you know and by the way you know if the whole burger
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burger king thing never works out you're welcome to come and uh you know be a you know my personal
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assistant here in the podcast studio just saying okay anyways um so i think you guys were talking
00:28:02.000
about murder a murder for hire which would be a assassin and i think you said you need your bills paid so
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you would do that yeah you might not want to admit to that on a live show but i digress what's up i
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in game in game i would not murder for hire thank you for clarifying thank you for clarifying
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nicolette appreciate it uh i don't really know how to engage with that apparently i'm gonna get
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if someone paid me i'd say no not for you looking forward to her input
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okay cool thank you man thank you burgess good to see you oh the the the kinks song living on the
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thin thin line this is for burgess right you said something about let me see coming from england
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uh things are hard over here things are hard in england so you should listen to the song on the
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thin line by the kinks the braunson's donated 69 dollars answer the first one ignore the second
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24 israel or palestine this is for you no no it's for you as he said brian and jojo oh are you just us
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two yes no no are we running the south bay 24 oh answer that yeah i keep saying ignore the second
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part answer the first part no i'm not i'm i'm it's kind of far kirby's been training she
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needs to do it i i need well i need a few more months you know he said it treadmill at hers
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i can't i can't train for a marathon that soon he said it's a mega marathon mega marathon he said
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something like that so to burgess the uh the lyrics for this from the kinks song living on the thin line
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uh it's a british band by the way all the lives of the people running around their castles have burned
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i see change oh wait hold on hold on wait fuck i fucked it up where is it uh wait now another
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centrally now another century nearly gone what are we gonna leave for the young uh wait god damn
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that's not even it come on i don't know something about all the castles burned all these wars uh
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wait oh oh oh no okay i'll start it illinois boy donated 69 dollars answer the question
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israel or palestine in call of duty 1v1 on rust i'll destroy him on rust i will destroy him on rust
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whoa what a way to get around it yeah i was like what a way to get around it i'm destroying anyone
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oh my god we're up till three in the morning thank you illinois boy yeah i'm the only one playing the
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recent versions yeah not really interested in discussing the conflicts anonymous donated 69
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dollars natalie you call out of girl but you are not modest at all see for example do you want to
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address sure and i want to finish sure sure um i don't sell myself on online so there's a complete
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difference the job that i have i know we haven't gotten to it yet but it's for my brain and my
00:30:58.960
investigative reporting um so i'm i'm content with how i present myself online and i don't think
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there's anything super wrong with living your life in a way not necessarily just to attract male
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attention i'm not gay so i like guys like i don't think there's anything really wrong with
00:31:16.040
like looking nice and presenting yourself in a feminine way um so yeah i'm really fine with how i
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present myself we should pull up her instagram no they subscribed to her of for her brain
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i gotta use my brain to take these angles i gotta get the right the right angles for the photos
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that's a lot of brain work yeah i was just curious what do you think of your subscribers do you respect
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them or do you just look at them as a vessel for cash basically uh i don't like i i mean i don't
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really message i don't really go on i'm like i just post photos so the i know the people who pay for
00:31:48.540
your pictures like do you you don't really care you you you're just using photos and if they want
00:31:53.580
to subscribe they can they don't have to but what's your opinion on them come on yeah like i'm saying
00:31:59.240
what do you what do you think of them they're chilling like me would you date any of them
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if they're the right man is if it's the right man i've dated a a chatter before that might have
00:32:10.460
been a mistake but can i ask a quick question a chatter like a twitch
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sorry twitch lingo twitch lingo can i ask a quick question um did you say that you like in your
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future you see like you want a husband and kids no i said i'll see when i get there do you think
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you're maybe the precluding yourself from ever being able to have that by no i don't think so
00:32:31.020
so does every hobby ever people settle i don't care certain people don't want to date people
00:32:36.100
on podcasts it's there's people that she's gonna include herself but there's plenty of people she
00:32:40.820
won't they don't want to date me because i have only fans i don't i don't give a shit i agree i think
00:32:44.760
it's a sad state of the world that probably 10 years from now having an only fans will not be
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like a cardinal sin it'll probably be more normalized um but nonetheless do you think the
00:32:52.740
quality of man that you're going to attract by doing only fans do you think there's going to be
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any effect on that given that you have quality she don't care i mean not as much as like you're
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cutting down the type of guys you attract by wearing that top so i feel like what's wrong with
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what the hell i think we're wearing is it purple is it colored yeah but i'm not talking down i'm not
00:33:14.040
talking down on women i don't sell my body for money you just do it for free yeah i don't sell my
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body right it's better to do it for free understood i don't sell my body and by the way if you want to
00:33:26.540
go down the financial route the average only fans creator makes about 150 a month so that's not
00:33:30.620
really worth i'm not the average creator they make more well so congrats you're part of the
00:33:35.360
people who are perpetuating the like pyramid scheme that is only fans so you're at the top
00:33:39.260
earning money while the rest of the girls who are buying into it are selling you know what a pyramid
00:33:44.220
scheme is she's just buying into it me personally i tell people i've had people from my hometown be
00:33:50.660
like how do i set this up i'm like don't do it don't get an only fans don't if you don't want
00:33:54.780
okay but i think you sitting here laughing about it acting like your life as an only fans creator is so
00:33:58.960
awesome and you just make money from it and effect is normalizing i didn't say it was awesome but i
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think it's it's funny and by the way i do know what a pyramid scheme is when you give people your
00:34:06.520
referral codes you do get a percent off of the first year i don't advertise my referral okay well
00:34:11.380
you might not but other people do that's fine if they want to i mean i just don't personally do it
00:34:15.540
and my critique of only fans as a pyramid scheme is a bit more niche it's not in its typical sense i
00:34:20.700
think what it is having women buy into it's not that you're having them you know buy a bunch of
00:34:24.980
products and start selling it to people you're having them basically demean themselves and give
00:34:28.500
up their value and have a such low self-worth and saying it's empowering and think that it's
00:34:33.180
i personally don't think most women should not join most women shouldn't have an only fans and i
00:34:37.700
advertise towards men not other women to make only fans hey whoever wants to subscribe we want
00:34:42.560
ladies to make only fans no to like subscribe i'm saying the pyramid scheme is on the creator side i
00:34:48.320
think i understand but you're having the conversation with the wrong only fans creator because i
00:34:51.920
neither of us do that neither of us do referrals okay well that doesn't negate the fact that there are
00:34:56.380
people who do i'm not necessarily attacking yeah yeah no no okay and your point is understood but
00:35:00.680
we can't continue further if we don't do that well i mean we could try to argue but yeah i can't
00:35:05.900
really argue because i don't understand it because i don't do referrals so i can't give you like a
00:35:09.240
why was just maybe then to bring it to something that you guys can't talk about why do you guys think
00:35:12.820
that you are uniquely cut out to do only fans like why are you like why some it's i mean it's pretty
00:35:19.120
damaging to your mental health and shit to be honest so why why do you i'm already cooked i said i was
00:35:24.140
cooked already before i started do your parents know you do it yeah what do they think uh they're
00:35:30.380
like super old and christian so they don't like it but they don't say anything about it i mean i went
00:35:34.980
into foster care like i went into foster care so whatever my parents have to say about it it doesn't
00:35:39.160
matter i'll just walk away like interesting yeah different different different lives for different
00:35:44.480
people abigail do you have any thoughts on the of stuff oh voice crack nice um i do i of course
00:35:50.700
don't think um selling your body online is something to be proud of but i will say i don't
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think they make a bad point when they mention the top that you're wearing being selling i thought it
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was fine i have nothing wrong with purple it looks fine let me say is it especially if you're going
00:36:11.040
to talk down on somebody not being modest first of all this is it's a regular tank top which is like
00:36:16.480
the world's most popular workout brand like ever it's not like it's some niche when i wear a workout
00:36:21.880
clothes i put a big t-shirt over oh yeah workout clothes aren't modest they're not very modest like
00:36:28.440
sports bras and things i don't really think it's a problem honestly i have a high enough self-worth
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in my intelligence that i am okay wearing a like marginally low-cut shirt yeah i honestly as the
00:36:38.740
only fans who are here i really don't think it's a problem that i don't also honestly like you guys
00:36:43.300
like i'm on here with some like it's just a shirt offensive provocative shirt i feel like
00:36:49.320
no you're just wearing a shirt like if we switch tops it's gonna look a lot different on me that's
00:36:53.920
all i'm saying okay we get it i don't even what does that even mean she's busty i'm saying you
00:37:00.160
heard leche bags in the first comment we put it are you guys competing over yo who's got the
00:37:06.740
we got the biggest also like it's it's it's like what i do is different from what you guys do
00:37:16.260
wearing even if say say i was wearing a shirt that was down to here that doesn't negate the
00:37:20.640
fact that i'm not selling myself online for 20 a month are you online right now have i ever been
00:37:26.940
online yes no you may not be selling yourself but are you online i co-host one of the largest
00:37:31.160
political podcasts in the country it's on tv it's so i guess i guess online gotcha bitch
00:37:35.820
what podcast is it it's called oh no we're ahead of it wait abigail you object to what natalie's
00:37:43.680
wearing i do i think if you're going to talk about um modesty and selling yourself online i which i
00:37:51.040
agree with everything you said but i would say i mean your cleavage is out on the internet and so
00:37:57.840
it doesn't put you in a position you want her in a burka what do you want you want you want natalie
00:38:02.100
in a burka i will say the last time i was on here and brian pulled on my instagram i live i'm from
00:38:07.720
the beach people like how dare she wear a bikini and called me a whore so you know it's wait i did
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not call you no you didn't some people in the chat did okay and i'm like i'm from the beach like what
00:38:19.180
is that i feel like your tank top is fine also like i i think i'm a little different in the sense i
00:38:24.160
know a lot of girls come on here and probably sit in this chair like hardcore like trad wife
00:38:28.060
trad life trad life and i'm not saying that i'm not i am definitely more traditional but like
00:38:33.360
i come at it from a space more of thinking that the push to have women subscribe to only fans and be
00:38:41.040
feminists and take that whole approach to life is sort of a kind of top-down propaganda campaign
00:38:46.860
coming from like globalist corporations that want to suppress the birth rate and all that i won't
00:38:51.240
get you demonetized but it comes more from that as opposed to from a religious point of view
00:38:55.720
so i'm not i know this might be a lot but i'm not saying that like i'm some hardcore like oh i just
00:39:00.400
want to be in the kitchen baking cookies i just don't like what you guys are doing because i think
00:39:04.440
it is destroying society and making gender norms very skewed to the point where it's not productive
00:39:11.020
for a stable society in terms of monogamous relationships again i'm not saying that i am not
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religious i'm not christian or anything like that but i don't come at it maybe from the same angle
00:39:20.620
that you guys do again i'm really you stand by what i'm wearing i don't really think it's anything
00:39:24.540
that bad but i i think maybe a little different from like your typical trad person and that i just
00:39:31.120
approach it from a different angle yeah okay it's also you know summertime southern california
00:39:35.840
it's hot here i've been traveling for a week and i have like no cool time it's hot it's been hot
00:39:39.200
how does only fans the hell okay oh no abigail abigail's coming from natalie natalie's coming
00:39:47.880
for you guys everybody's fine okay no one's coming for anyone it's a conversation i should just leave
00:39:51.840
right so how does only fans wait let's do this let's get everybody's intro yeah we'll come back
00:39:56.440
to the of topic uh so you introduced yourself certified e what e whore okay that was a wild
00:40:04.900
ride there are only five people in go ahead uh hi my name is nikki i'm 28 years old i'm from los
00:40:11.720
angeles and i was a project manager for a space and defense company all right welcome hello my name
00:40:17.920
is malia i'm 27 i'm from los angeles i work in only fans management and i also sometimes twitch
00:40:23.880
stream if i get really bored but i'm from the 805 originally san luis obispo carpinteria oh carp okay
00:40:31.800
oh you're from santa barbara okay county anyways yeah um my name is alissa i'm 24 i'm a student and
00:40:38.920
a stay-at-home wife all right welcome what are you studying uh political science i'm finishing in
00:40:44.260
december okay i'm abigail i'm 20 and i am a leasing agent and occasionally i coach boys gymnastics i'm
00:40:53.460
also from washington state did you do gymnastics growing up i did yes okay all right i just have to
00:40:59.640
add our necklines are like the same length yeah debatable that's exactly why it's different
00:41:12.600
you have cleavage and it's skin tight that's the two that's that what people would call it
00:41:18.440
i look conservative as hell right now anyways i am uh natalie winters i don't know why i said her
00:41:26.640
last name um i co-host steve bannon's war room i'm from santa monica i live in palm beach florida now
00:41:32.240
and i'm 23 all right welcome welcome everybody uh i paused the tts there temporarily just so they
00:41:38.400
could have the back and forth there's like 10 that are just in the queue so it's just gonna be rapid
00:41:44.600
fire you oh man this is crazy bro you're crazy bro sure who manger the plot to madison sure
00:41:53.160
will try to settle our crew and the frankie's just poor gutte the plot to madison oh hashtag
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partahomo can you translate for us uh merci beaucoup okay what does this mean good stuff to what else
00:42:09.000
loose pussy energy donated 69 dollars thank you brian these simps don't know how to read the room or
00:42:18.040
take a hint holy shit that pigtail chick not interested move the fuck on braunasian simp
00:42:24.680
fucking weirdos hashtag cringing hashtag free neck number eight at 18 hashtag free neck hey i'm very
00:42:32.200
interested in running half a marathon it's just mike davis donated 69 dollars who cares about israel
00:42:40.840
or palestine you goofy it's america first all day everyday land of the free home of the brave
00:42:46.760
all right thank you mike davis america you got it easy
00:43:01.480
bird donated 69 dollars acquiring money always comes at a cost often when money seems to come in
00:43:09.080
easy there are costs that you are or will have to pay in one way or another easy now hard later
00:43:15.480
hard now easy later hmm yes well put seaberg well put what is what they say fast money comes with
00:43:25.080
fast problems kill of cereal i'm request oh wait this is below the throne okay that's just one of the tens
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kittles donated 69 dollars maddie is a 1000 okay it's over 9 000 all right thank you appreciate it
00:43:48.680
kittles good to see you in the chat man i recognize the name uh i think it's been a while thank you
00:43:54.280
appreciate it we have another one coming in here in just a moment nick did we hide the uh that
00:43:59.640
suit check that came in i should have probably sal brian sarva donated 69 dollars madison est parfait
00:44:07.480
chevou manger the plot de madison chevou trisousa de coon de frankie de la plot de madison just
00:44:13.960
poor couté madison hashtag par de hobo that's ridiculous
00:44:18.760
that's ridiculous bro that's rough buddy oh boy i'm gonna change it after it's wild boy
00:44:27.480
he donated 69 dollars brian where's the cat fight sound i don't i need one i need a like
00:44:33.960
i thought you had one before no we have uh just do it ourselves yeah that's terrible that's pretty
00:44:43.240
good i don't know we need something like that yeah unfortunately we don't but uh i'm gonna get
00:44:49.960
that i'm gonna get that in for sure illinois boy donated 69 dollars no offense but can we put a cap
00:44:56.600
on the af conversation and be courteous and let the other guests introduce themselves this came in
00:45:02.680
before it's funny that you have that pic of mike davis on standby for the show uh yeah yeah look he's
00:45:11.560
he's mike davis is an og i most of you guys don't know he's been around since like an anonymous donated
00:45:17.640
69 dollars would it be too early to pop a bottle never too early never we need that if you want
00:45:23.560
it's her graduation we got a champagne pop it's um it's her graduation her birthday and it's tuesday
00:45:31.800
and it's tuesday yeah it's a tuesday and we're on vacation because that's relevant yeah we're on
00:45:36.520
vacation uh so ananda ananda moose yeah man uh it's only right that i share this one time a girl's
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cat licked my brow don't read that that's crazy ironic that's crazy man so brian savard donated 69
00:45:55.320
brian does tts not allow french actually bro w tf here salute if you send one in
00:46:03.480
if you send one in i'll switch it to a french tts thing temporarily you got to make sure though
00:46:09.400
whatever you send i'm not gonna the fucking vile vulgar shit you've been sending send in something
00:46:16.360
like evil underscore donated 69 dollars i thought only fans was for hot chicks to make money all the
00:46:24.840
hottest girls starting with maddie do not have enough but the female shrek and the skeleton do
00:46:37.640
first off you misspelled shrek bro don't don't put some respect on shrek's donated 69
00:46:44.600
purple shirt degenerate black hair reveling in sin giddy it seems at the thought of morals they sell
00:46:51.720
themselves sad i wonder what if any morals does she have left wait to i think to me i think to me there
00:46:59.400
there was no in there this purple shirt yeah it's a dress and that my hair is brown but you're
00:47:03.960
also a dipstick so make it work okay anony moose donated 69 thank you has a girl ever touched your
00:47:12.040
star hole and did you like it early answer up we're starting early what's going on this chat time to up
00:47:21.080
that tts he's turning red right guys yeah he's turning kind of red no it's that's not my thing
00:47:27.640
man sorry anonymous not my thing but hey if you like it if you like it evil underscore is underscorial
00:47:33.720
donated 69 dollars i thought only we're gonna bump it up the hottest girls here starting with maddie
00:47:41.800
the tenth have no one but female shrek and skeletor have won skeletor i'll take skeletor google a photo
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of skeletor please no no i you know that might actually be me that might actually be me they
00:47:52.680
might be right uh-oh all right guys i've i've bumped it up uh 16 it's now 200 tts whoa and then 100
00:48:02.280
others to read uh i'll still do the french one if you want to get one in uh what's it called i'll do
00:48:07.880
the french one if you want to get one in but you have to do it at the uh threshold or whatever let
00:48:12.920
me just make sure everything has been changed up uh so going around the table once more what's
00:48:17.960
everybody's current relationship status they didn't finish introductions yeah we did we did oh
00:48:23.800
you're crazy you gotta lay off the yep you gotta lay off the you know whatever you're smoking okay
00:48:30.360
so current relationship status are you single talking state situationship friends with benefits
00:48:34.840
whatever if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've
00:48:38.920
ever been in starting with you uh single for two years i had a four-year relationship and
00:48:46.040
you've been single for two years yeah have you have you in the two-year period have you
00:48:50.600
had anything i i don't date i i said this last time i was on i don't date i wanted to finish
00:48:55.480
school before because i i don't know where i'm going to end up with my job and are you going to
00:48:58.680
get your phd um your master's right well i just got it last friday yeah so so i'm open to dating
00:49:04.840
now no i'm okay so you got your master's though correct are you going to go get your phd or you're
00:49:10.520
happy with your master's um i might in like after i work for a while i i want to go into the work
00:49:16.120
field now okay so no dating in two years no you haven't even been on a date no i went on one date
00:49:23.800
what about a like because some people wouldn't consider a date if you just went over to a guy's
00:49:28.120
house had sex with them and never talked to him again so have you had that that's crazy i don't
00:49:33.960
consider that a date do you consider that a day depends on definitions but did you have that
00:49:40.840
maybe that sounds like a yes okay so how many uh
00:49:48.600
when's the last is that was that your mo so you wouldn't be in a relationship but you just like
00:49:53.240
have casual sex then yeah okay all right so you have not been celibate for two years no i haven't
00:50:01.720
you've been single for two years but you haven't been celibate for two years yes so what's the
00:50:05.240
longest period of time that you uh or would be seeing a guy for that two-year period wait the
00:50:09.800
longest like maybe you saw a guy for a month yeah um or was it all one night stands no i i usually it
00:50:17.800
was like i saw them a few times but and then never again yeah usually like two or three times yeah
00:50:25.000
and then you'd get bored or they get bored yeah mostly them no i usually ghost people it's like i
00:50:32.040
freak out a little bit why do you freak out because it's like it's like i don't want to continually talk
00:50:38.200
to them because i i know it's it's first of all i don't want to date them second of all it's like
00:50:43.960
like it's safe it feels safer in the moment that you continually talk to them but they're
00:50:48.600
probably talking to like i don't like sleeping around with multiple people at once because i i
00:50:53.240
feel gross doing that so i will talk to them continually but i i have the realization they're
00:50:58.280
doing it too so i'm like i don't want to continue this okay cool good times uh so when's the last time
00:51:07.720
you had one of these rendezvous uh like a month ago okay
00:51:16.280
do you have a did you have a roster it was a roster like you'd be seeing multiple people
00:51:21.240
i just said i don't do that okay but you would just have like one after the other
00:51:26.520
casual sex no like i i took a like a lot of months off like off of sex
00:51:32.520
a hiatus a sabbatical you took it yeah a few months of a sabbatical you know how it is okay
00:51:38.680
all right uh okay i could say my body count real quick yeah sure eight it's not like crazy or anything
00:51:45.240
like that if you don't press the times three button don't do this multiply it by three and that's
00:51:51.000
i swear thank you for reminding me actually i wasn't even gonna press it i wasn't gonna press it but
00:51:55.480
then you're like oh give me the like i said don't do that okay so all right and uh well now that you're
00:52:02.520
graduated are you ready to step away from your strumpet life and get serious don't do it i'm like
00:52:10.360
terrified to go on dates because like even with like uh you're terrified to go on dates yes but you're
00:52:15.880
not terrified to just go over to a dude's house and have sexual intercourse with him well it's to me
00:52:22.200
very different because it's like um it is very different with dates you're like more an emotional
00:52:27.160
attachment i don't get emotionally attached to people like that to be clear if you sit across
00:52:30.600
from somebody at the table and you have a conversation yeah you learn more about their
00:52:33.880
personality like a man can literally be inside you and you feel nothing
00:52:38.360
whoa that's a crazy phrasing not physically i mean emotionally emotionally yeah you so so man
00:52:43.640
you could be like kissing a man looking him in the eyes he's he's literally inside you
00:52:47.240
you don't know anything about the personality he's literally inside you with a woman you feel
00:52:50.360
nothing yeah emotionally like yeah emotional attachment damn bro you're what was the term
00:52:56.600
you used cooked yeah yeah she's good you're good i just it's done it's over how is it over okay it's
00:53:05.320
like you actually learn about personality yeah get the rock get the rocks sorry go ahead you learn
00:53:11.240
about the personality right and you get more attached yes or are you only about looks kind
00:53:18.040
of person i'm not sure what you're asking i'm saying okay looks wise sure you can like go hook
00:53:23.640
up with a chick but you're you're there long term for like personality usually right because you guys
00:53:28.440
get along and like yes or no what's your question my question is are you there for a girl's looks
00:53:35.880
only yes hold on sal brian sarva donated 200 hold on i'll switch it to french hold on go so continue
00:53:43.240
on with your uh your thing i'll pull it back up go ahead well it was a question on you if you're
00:53:48.600
talking to a girl and you let's say sleeping with someone just for the looks versus the actual
00:53:53.640
longevity of like personality right you rather you get along with them personality wise and that's why
00:53:58.680
you get attached is because because what what was their personality you're attached to their
00:54:06.120
actual being with them rather than just their physical appeal wait i don't really understand
00:54:11.800
your point i'm asking you a question i only sleep with girls who i have an interest in dating long
00:54:18.040
term okay well yeah so she didn't go okay let's calm down uh but so what can't i have my college face
00:54:28.040
please also i mean also there's a differential did you have a college face there's a differential
00:54:32.360
here hold on let me answer this question i mean there's a differential here between men and women
00:54:37.000
i think what is it uh isn't it the case that women release oxytocin is it when they have sex at
00:54:44.680
least at higher rates than men will release it i don't think she does it's a bonding it's a bonding
00:54:50.840
chemical i don't think she does yeah so for for you to have like been able to inhibit that
00:54:57.560
like typically you'll hear like men can typically have a bit more meaningless sex than not to say
00:55:03.880
that women can't have meaningless sex meaningless sex but men are i think i think are more capable of
00:55:09.000
it compartmentalize a little more mm-hmm but but even for me i mean i don't i don't have interest in just
00:55:15.960
sleeping with the girl once and never talking to her again so what's the point based hmm that's fine
00:55:22.760
but so you're telling us how you were cooked no no you said that about me but yeah oh am i wrong
00:55:30.200
cooked what do you mean in the future sure i feel like my body counts like not like crazy high or
00:55:36.600
anything like that yeah but you said you like have sex and feel nothing yeah because i don't learn
00:55:42.920
anything about them i'm a very uh personality heavy person yeah well this okay so this stemmed from you
00:55:48.600
saying like you feel first dates just like sitting across from buddy it's like across from somebody
00:55:53.960
truthfully i don't go on first date so it's too so but so you've never been on the first day i've been
00:56:00.280
on like one first date and that's too intimate for you is what you're saying yeah in a way okay
00:56:06.920
because you learn more about them and that's why i also when i do start dating i would not be like
00:56:11.640
sleeping with the people like i'm dating because i it feel like like you said it is a little bit more
00:56:16.600
personal in a sense nicolodeon donated 200 guaranteed this the me would pick bear over
00:56:24.040
man while sitting here admitting she'd wander into a random man so man open shop for him with
00:56:30.360
complete lack of concern for her well-being that actually came through pretty good but i was about
00:56:35.480
to hear i'll thank you nickelodeon uh i just i switched it to the french voice really quick so i'm
00:56:40.440
gonna trigger this one uh one sec guys nicolodeon thank you man and i hope you're fine that it came
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salut brillant ça va donate 200 dollars 200 j'ai dit ces choses just pour plaisanter hashtag pas
00:56:54.600
vraiment j'adore maddie et de la podcast de natalie et steve as-tu déjà pensé a changer le mardi
00:57:00.200
or mercredi oh he wants us to change the date from mardi or mercredi uh now we're going to
00:57:14.600
stick to sunday tuesday but maybe in the future we'll add a thursday we'll add a thursday so three
00:57:18.840
days uh three shows a week thank you man appreciate it eh bien s'il te plaît je veux un peu de
00:57:24.920
le champagne et bien donc tu dois tu dois c'est uh c'est un mille uh dollars bien mon france
00:57:33.320
n'est pas très bien mais uh les filles il a il est oh my god i'm so bad
00:57:41.400
il a besoin de bouvoir le champagne okay okay très bien merci beaucoup okay all right all right
00:57:49.400
anyways go ahead i don't remember what i was saying i think it means like separating sex and love for that
00:57:54.360
long probably isn't the best way to go about things no wait question i have a question for
00:57:59.640
you but so you you now that you've graduated you are going to start like dating seriously right yes
00:58:03.800
i hope so okay so are you gonna like make these dudes like wait for sex yikes that's it no good
00:58:13.000
for you good for you wait really yeah okay well we'll talk about that but
00:58:17.720
look it's okay look on one hand we've are natalie's been here when we've talked about
00:58:23.800
no okay i'm that's crazy let me explain it in one way let me explain in a way it's like
00:58:28.520
with the date and learning about each other's personalities plus like also sleeping with them
00:58:32.440
i feel like it's more of a chance of like leading them on more and more versus you both know at like
00:58:37.720
the initial like starting point if you just sleep with each other and that's it like you guys aren't
00:58:42.120
like gonna go and see each other after that that's i guess my point of view where it's like
00:58:46.520
how do you know that well if they ask me out sure but usually it's like hey they text me at 10 pm hey
00:58:51.800
what's up it's like okay you're gonna ask me on a day so you think a guy who would otherwise be
00:58:57.320
interested you in you in a long-term relationship if you have if you have sex with him that's going to
00:59:02.680
be the deal breaker no having sex with him like he otherwise would have uh you know if he's already made
00:59:09.320
the determination that he wants to be in a long-term relationship with you having sex with
00:59:13.480
him is going to be the deal breaker no but i think uh yeah i think you are able to deem whether they
00:59:20.200
want just sex or they want long-term sometimes from like a for after a first date you you're able to
00:59:25.160
tell oh if like let's say i'm like oh i don't want to sleep with you first date and then they never
00:59:29.560
text you again then you're like okay they're kind of weeding out people who are you're not they
00:59:33.160
weren't ever interested in and you also want to figure out like do i like you personality-wise when you
00:59:37.640
start sleeping with someone it's hard to separate that do i like you or do i just like yeah how
00:59:43.160
you are in other areas so there's a lot of like weird i mean i again i don't date so i don't know
00:59:47.480
a lot of like it's gonna i'm gonna feel it out when i get there i guess okay here i'll read this chat
00:59:52.440
really quick um thank you matt appreciate it uh john green sounds like she's afraid of getting
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emotionally attached because she's worried they'll hurt her so she cuts it off before she can that
01:00:02.120
could be a possibility for sure okay i wouldn't doubt that all right we'll talk about the whole
01:00:09.000
like waiting thing in a little bit here but um your relationship status um i'm in a very loving
01:00:18.280
situationship at the moment with the guy from two nights ago no um wait what the white man two nights
01:00:26.520
two nights ago no yeah i think that's how i would put it very very loving but there was a guy two
01:00:34.200
nights ago yeah why isn't it a relationship wait okay so how long have you been in this situation
01:00:41.080
i don't know i like maybe a month oh it's not very loving then well maybe it is sorry what's your
01:00:50.520
longest relationship it's been like four years on again off again in high school okay yeah that was
01:00:59.800
back in vermont correct yes okay so you're in a loving situationship for sure split it um
01:01:11.080
are you sorry well i'm assuming you guys are not monogamous
01:01:13.400
um yes we are oh yeah um you are monogamous as of yes um hopefully not two days ago
01:01:28.920
no we we are not dating um but we are monogamous apparently what do you mean apparently
01:01:37.240
someone better at math has to explain this to me
01:01:39.320
yeah maybe in the early stages of dating maybe let's get your mic that way can i ask like what's
01:01:46.360
loving about it if you guys aren't making it official like not you oh you go ahead like like
01:01:54.120
what part of it makes it loving like the situationship if you guys can't even label
01:01:58.200
it like to be monogamous like what makes it like loving um it might have been a little bit sarcastic
01:02:05.240
uh no it's very complicated i'm not sure what's going on like i would probably like for it to be
01:02:11.000
a relationship and they are kind of like being a little hot and cold so they also live in arizona so
01:02:19.640
have you guys met in person yes uh how um he's from oxnard so he was like visiting around here and
01:02:28.520
yeah so we met like that way and we spent like a few days together after it was supposed to be
01:02:35.080
like a hookup situation um and then he went back home and we went on vacation together and here it is
01:02:42.360
you went on vacation together where joshua tree okay and you knew though going in that he was going
01:02:49.000
back to arizona correct mm-hmm i did yeah okay and so wait hold on mexican guy mm-hmm okay
01:03:03.000
but you said so wait were you being sarcastic about it being monogamous uh no it's it's definitely
01:03:11.880
monogamous i think you just went on a date two days ago with somebody else
01:03:16.520
and you're still on dating apps how could it possibly not be monogamous yeah no i'm not i'm
01:03:23.320
not sure i was told it was monogamous what do you mean you were told it was monogamous i was told it
01:03:28.520
was monogamous okay so by when you say you were told it was monogamous he said what he said we are not
01:03:38.680
in a relationship but um we're just seeing each other and i said oh okay red flag
01:03:45.880
yeah you deserve better honey it's okay wait hold on we he said we're just seeing each other
01:03:52.600
so he said i'm just seeing you and you said okay but you didn't you didn't make any representations
01:03:58.840
about you not stopping so he's monogamous you're not i i think it might be the other way around
01:04:05.960
sometimes i don't know what that means me neither you said you're monogamous he's not
01:04:14.200
i think i don't know what's going on i don't know but you went on a date yeah you're not monogamous
01:04:19.320
you just went on a date words have meaning um words have meaning so you said you guys were monogamous
01:04:25.000
yes that's what he says what do you say did you tell him you know lying did you tell him you
01:04:32.520
went on a date the other day um perhaps not okay so you should let him go she also said that she
01:04:39.880
just wanted a friend to hang out with and she didn't do anything with this guy she went on a date
01:04:44.600
with okay she said friend and then she said date what's going on here was it a hangout or a date
01:04:49.080
this is the guy two days ago guy we didn't like do anything like we just hung out so i would say
01:04:56.680
we just hung out lol paladins donated 200 be the guy that women will sleep with on the first date
01:05:03.560
if she makes you wait you're a chump if she's attracted to you she won't make you wait these
01:05:09.560
women at least have told you the truth yeah truth is good truth is always good thank you lol
01:05:14.280
paladins very good to see you in the chat man you're you're a legend thank you uh okay so you guys
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are not monogamous then i don't know when you say you hung out with somebody two nights ago uh i
01:05:26.200
guess he wasn't your ended up not being your type i'm still confused by that because i mean i'm assuming
01:05:31.960
he has pictures on his hinge profile yeah no i definitely knew i didn't like him um oh you're
01:05:37.640
just like romantically he was just like around and he was willing to hang out with me and i said okay
01:05:43.320
oh what day was it what time what day was it i don't even know i have no idea
01:05:51.000
was the sun out or not i don't know well two days ago you can sunday okay uh did you guys hang out at
01:05:57.640
night time uh yeah around what time it was like seven okay seven p.m it sounds like a police report
01:06:07.960
yeah yeah yeah for sure he's taking notes too well it's a bit different if you meet a girl for brunch
01:06:13.240
versus it's 11 p.m on a friday and you're telling her to come over to your place little different
01:06:19.320
dynamic there so uh in any case okay did you sleep with him no absolutely not okay uh
01:06:28.680
uh so you've been in this situation ship for one month and you said you moved out here sorry uh
01:06:36.360
when like a year and a half ago a year and a half ago okay have you in terms of like dating history
01:06:42.680
and stuff uh have you had anything longer term in that period no not really um i would say like not
01:06:50.600
for lack of trying it just like hasn't worked out um i feel like a lot of men especially in this
01:06:57.240
area like around ucsb and isla vista they're just um not interested in that at all and sometimes
01:07:04.120
there's some dishonesty but yeah it's a lot of like late night booty calls and you just figure it
01:07:10.280
out it's like take it or leave it that's what's available so obviously there are outliers but like
01:07:15.160
i would be dating men like 10 years older than me if i were to expect like an actual date in a courtship
01:07:21.880
okay all right good to know um we'll come back to some of that later what about you
01:07:28.200
um i'm single all right what were the other questions longest relationship how long have
01:07:34.040
you been single uh longest relationship seven years and i kind of had a relationship
01:07:43.640
recently it was only a month so okay i don't know if i count that all right uh sure what about you
01:07:52.360
um i'm single my longest relationship was five and a half years i've been single for like three
01:07:57.160
months now yeah last time you were on the show you were in a relationship right yeah as soon as i got
01:08:01.320
home he dumped me wait he didn't like the pod didn't like the pod at all yeah as soon as i got home he
01:08:07.160
dumped me he dumped you because of the shit you said not not because of the podcast as soon as we
01:08:12.920
got home though but it was a show the entire weekend i was in la it was a whole show what do
01:08:17.640
you mean wait it was a show with him or yeah with him wait so you've been single for three months yeah
01:08:22.520
wait the was it the five-year relationship no no no no how long were you dating the guy that
01:08:26.600
like seven months it was online like i only seen him a couple times have you had a rebound
01:08:32.120
no have you dated anybody since no have you been on a date since no have you hooked up with anybody
01:08:38.440
since no so you've been selling it for three months three months baby okay so why did he dump you he
01:08:43.800
found a new only fans chick she had bigger tits i couldn't compete watch okay what was i supposed to
01:08:52.360
do what was i supposed to do she was right there i'm all the way in canada couldn't compete where did
01:08:57.160
he live texas we went to texas it was awful you were in a long distance uh yeah a different country
01:09:07.400
relationship that's what i said last time i was here yeah i just i know it's crazy i'll never do
01:09:12.840
that again oops learn my lesson okay you might for green card you know for a green card hey hit her up
01:09:19.240
all right so how often would you see him um i saw him we started dating in august i saw him
01:09:27.720
in october i saw him in december and i saw him in february so you guys only saw each other three times
01:09:34.120
yeah and i flew to him every time you flew to him but what did he pay no he paid he paid the first time
01:09:40.200
but so i know so i came to vegas and i paid my own ticket and then when i saw him the first time he
01:09:45.000
paid and then the second time i saw him i paid and then wait for uh did you do content with him
01:09:50.200
no like your of content i i don't do i don't do like you don't do bg no i don't do nudes you don't
01:09:55.560
do nudes it's like lingerie yeah uh unless you subscribe and maybe you'll find out no parental
01:10:01.160
guidance sorry sorry that was a joke that was a joke all right okay so you've been single for three
01:10:07.320
months uh are you looking or what's no no i'm just uh what's your orientation um by
01:10:14.840
curious by curious have you ever dated a woman no i was in a relationship back this way orientation
01:10:21.480
gay for pay but straight but your face don't like but straight what is but but yeah that's
01:10:28.840
oh okay okay um because i i don't know i don't know no i don't like anal but oh i'm into men
01:10:35.560
but we'll for money for money i'll do like girl stuff have you done gay for pay yeah not recently
01:10:42.600
good shout out brian all right what about you orientation i'm straight straight all right moving
01:10:49.640
over to you your relationship status uh in a relationship in a relationship okay uh how long
01:10:55.160
have you guys been dating uh six months now six months and last time you were on the show you were
01:10:59.160
not in a relationship i was not um is it getting pretty serious you know this is the one you think
01:11:05.560
all right yeah he's the best guy i know longest relationship you've ever been in uh five years five
01:11:10.360
years okay and when were you on the show like nine months ago was it uh last summer i think
01:11:17.960
yeah yeah it's been nine almost a year i think maybe nine or ten months now you were on the show
01:11:22.680
almost a year ago uh we talked about this a little bit in the chat uh here we go and so you've been on
01:11:30.040
the show before and in your previous pre-show notes and i think you talked about it on the show you
01:11:34.200
mentioned uh you know not having sex until marriage um and i think you kind of were big upping her that
01:11:41.160
she should wait for no no she wasn't she was actually adding on to my point no no she said she's
01:11:47.960
like i want to get to know the person first before just jumping into a sexual relationship and i said yes
01:11:53.560
that's great yeah i know no one's gonna go as extreme as i am right now but and it's really hard but
01:11:59.960
it's worth it um but i feel like it kind of cheapens the connection when you're like oh okay
01:12:06.280
we're just sleeping together like yeah that's that's it it does in a way yeah does it no in my way
01:12:13.240
i don't think it cheapens i i'm just i again when i start dating maybe my opinion well we'll get into
01:12:18.920
that but so uh and you're christian right yes what denomination non-denominational okay you get into
01:12:25.320
all this and so but in the pre-show notes you said you you said don't have sex before marriage
01:12:30.920
uh and we i don't recall the details if we did we talk about that on the show we did when you were
01:12:36.600
on i don't remember the exact back and forth but you have been dating somebody for um six months and
01:12:42.280
so i guess the question to you is uh saved by the tts sky blue top your shirt has buttons every button
01:12:51.320
used equals less no you it's fine yeah button that it's fine you don't know button that up
01:12:57.720
safety first wait is he gonna read it uh to sacagawea next to her auburn dress with white flower
01:13:04.760
print and maddie men would kill for women like you so sacagawea oh i was like who's wearing a flower
01:13:14.040
okay evil is real thank you bro appreciate it okay anyways back to this so so you said don't
01:13:22.920
have sex before marriage you were previously single when you were last on the show you've
01:13:26.680
been dating somebody for six months so have you stuck to the i guess the not having sex before marriage
01:13:34.120
it is really hard it's super hard have not been perfect but we're both in agreement that this is
01:13:40.920
the right thing to do what do you mean yeah we're doing a little something but not all that yeah
01:13:47.320
it's not all the way super hard you know you're in love with someone and you're really compatible
01:13:53.240
like this is your best friend it's really hard not to want to share every single part of yourself
01:13:57.320
in that way but i believe that it should be reserved for a very strong commitment a covenant
01:14:03.480
that's what marriage is is he that way too yes so i mean it's but it's still hard i'm not saying
01:14:08.760
like oh yeah it's totally fine and anyone who doesn't do this is stupid not at all this is
01:14:12.360
really difficult and if i could find a way around this i would have you heard of the poll loophole
01:14:21.400
anyway well so in your notes you said we haven't been perfect but we both agree on abstaining is the
01:14:28.520
way to go i mean so a little clarification there you so you said it's been really hard yeah it's
01:14:34.680
difficult i really like him he's a good-looking guy he's he's the best guy i know but you know
01:14:40.760
it's not easy to be around him sometimes and so you so you guys have had carnal knowledge
01:14:49.720
like you know like what meets like carne asada like what are you can you expand on that or is
01:14:53.560
that tos carnal no it's just have you done he just likes that did you do it that's his favorite word
01:14:58.440
did you do it or no guys my parents are tuning into this yeah but we need answers because it's
01:15:04.680
going to get heated here and i need to know all i'm going to say is we have not been perfect not
01:15:10.760
perfect okay so we know the answer yeah but okay so you've been dating him for six months how soon
01:15:17.320
into the six months were you guys not being perfect
01:15:29.560
month three that's not bad that's not bad that's good yeah it's rough out here guys it is rough out
01:15:37.160
here it's rough out here but so you said you we haven't been perfect but we both agree
01:15:44.840
on abstaining is the way to go so is this are you guys continuing to not be perfect
01:15:53.160
no that's what we're agreeing upon so you're just because you mess up doesn't mean it all
01:15:57.080
goes out the window right but i'm saying like so you're you've already had the slip up correct
01:16:06.120
they're trying to be perfect just to say do you ever just slip up on purpose
01:16:09.400
yes so you mean on purpose just intentionally no no that's what the point of of trying very hard
01:16:18.680
not to means but have you slipped up multiple times you have not been perfect and that's what
01:16:26.200
i'm gonna leave it at just answer answer the question yes okay so i guess how recently has
01:16:33.480
the most recent slip up been it's like yesterday today
01:16:42.200
that is watching how recent about a week ago about a week ago don't call bobby smurda to me
01:16:52.280
now look my my understanding of you know of christianity is christianity is not about being
01:16:57.480
perfect it's not nope but but this is where this whole like i don't know i don't know how to explain
01:17:08.360
it we are we were gonna get into the whole like waiting for sex thing uh
01:17:16.200
isn't it kind of like practice what you preach a little bit because like
01:17:20.840
if you keep telling each other in your relationship well we because this is what
01:17:24.840
you wrote we both agree on up on abstaining is the way to go but you don't for example
01:17:31.080
if you both that's not the default state of being like oh no it's totally fine but like we
01:17:35.080
know that's the right thing like that's not the intention like you both have agency right
01:17:39.240
like do you guys are you guys both drinking no actually don't drink okay so that's even more
01:17:44.360
agency that you have you can't even blame it on liquor well i wouldn't blame it on liquor
01:17:47.880
anyway that's kind of a cop out okay fair enough but it's like at for example right so again christianity
01:17:57.000
is not about being perfect but for example if i were to encounter a muslim okay and this muslim was
01:18:03.480
constantly eating bacon all the time and they were not adhering to the to islamic doctrine and
01:18:12.840
worldview why and they but they considered themselves a muslim even though i'm not for
01:18:18.120
example i'm not muslim i would sort of as an outsider look at that and perhaps question well
01:18:23.800
are you genuinely a muslim yeah of course i can see that and that's why we and i mean all of us on
01:18:31.320
earth are not equipped to judge one another and i'm not saying like actually we are equipped to judge
01:18:35.720
each other you're you're allowed to discern but judge say oh look you're not a follower you're not this
01:18:40.600
you can make your own notion i think that's smart to do but to genuinely say oh you don't believe
01:18:46.920
this i feel like that's a little out of everyone else's wheelhouse well but okay but so i think one
01:18:53.400
of the criticisms at least when it comes to christianity is that so people view christianity
01:19:00.600
as this at least the main a lot of these mainstream churches as this weak religion that just sort of
01:19:06.760
allows anything disagree well do you think women can be clergy hmm no hold on hold on oh my god sorry
01:19:27.880
i don't think that was gonna be your answer but you didn't think it was gonna be my answer well if you
01:19:31.560
had to think about it so well i wanted to phrase it very carefully that's a very hot button issue
01:19:37.720
it doesn't mean is it hot hold on it's a hot button because some people in christianity because like
01:19:43.160
clergy like i don't really subscribe to it's literally that kind of thing i'm still talking
01:19:47.880
even in protestant even in pro even if you're a protestant it's a heresy
01:19:52.200
shouldn't it be an instant okay so anyway uh like we this poison okay sorry yeah there's no
01:20:01.960
condemnation that was in christ jesus but anyway uh for that part like i don't think when i think of
01:20:08.440
clergy i think of like priests i think of which i don't actually subscribe to that idea you don't need
01:20:12.280
a priest that's what jesus christ is for um but as far as like women being able to teach like of course
01:20:17.560
that's how you teach other women and disciple them but as far as like pastoral like no there's
01:20:25.400
this there's a leadership that kind of is bestowed upon men and they should kind of step into that
01:20:29.720
and it's not really our place to take that from them okay i just i don't know i want to what is this
01:20:36.120
poisoned well thing what did i poison no it wasn't used so she said no when the direction was
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oh i see i see and then people are very easily influenced oh no so if if ever if i ask a question
01:20:50.840
and everybody else yeah i understand if you're inclined to say yes you'll probably just like
01:20:55.400
from the pressure i wanted to i wanted to distinguish like when you're in small i don't know if you guys
01:20:59.880
know too much about christianity but we have like discipleship groups it's like you have a more mature
01:21:04.520
christian mentoring the younger ones that happens male uh to male and then female to female so i have a
01:21:09.560
spiritual mom so to speak that's discipleship that's teaching that's being a leader but it's
01:21:14.760
not necessarily being a pastor there's a difference in that so my answer to like women being a pastor
01:21:19.600
and getting up on the pulpit i don't is clergy different than pastor i wouldn't know clergy sounds
01:21:23.560
very catholic to me i don't know about any of that it's a lot of extra rules and somehow you just say
01:21:28.600
one thing and everything is fine and that's not what the bible teaches so i'm going to stay away from that
01:21:33.320
um because i don't know what that entails fully can i also ask what exactly are they teaching you
01:21:39.440
like what's your like what do you do in discipleship in small groups yeah yeah like you said you have
01:21:44.900
someone above you like teaching you like it's like a very casual thing so she's telling me like here's
01:21:50.100
how i go through hard seasons here's how i resist temptation here's what i have done in my own life
01:21:55.480
and it's more relatable because she's an older woman so it's a little bit easier yeah she's more
01:22:00.360
experienced it's a little bit different than um like an older man talking to me about how he fights
01:22:04.520
temptation it's a different battle does he you know or does she tell you about like like things that
01:22:09.240
she messed up on earlier yes of course and that's the very real part of this is here's all of the
01:22:14.660
times where i've tried so hard to live this way to live the way jesus lived but i am not jesus i'm not
01:22:21.700
perfect i i fall i stumble but that doesn't mean you just give up and quit so that's kind of what
01:22:27.140
where everything she's been through does it always relate back to jesus for her getting through it
01:22:31.120
most of the time yeah so like i mean earlier seasons when she wasn't a christian she's like
01:22:36.300
i felt really lost i didn't know what to do i thought all these things were going to help me
01:22:39.960
and they didn't and she became a christian and she said okay well now i understand why this is how i
01:22:45.540
want to live my life so it's nice to see the before and after too that's my personal relationship
01:22:49.400
with my spiritual mentor um i'm sure everyone's is different but i guess this is why it's kind of
01:22:55.580
and what we'll get into the whole like waiting for sex thing in a bit this is why it's hard for
01:23:00.340
me to take even christian women i would like to see like if a man came on especially reformed on
01:23:07.040
this what do you mean like i want to see if like a christian guy came on the show and was like hey
01:23:10.980
i'm trying to do this like how would how would it be received would you get the same like would
01:23:15.760
you get the rapid fire like what did you do this when did you do this what was the last time you
01:23:18.780
slipped up i want to know like how would that be experienced would you ask him the same questions
01:23:23.040
i mean if he if he came on and was like preaching heavily that you ought to wait to have sex you
01:23:31.360
shouldn't have sex before marriage and then there's like videos of him like going out to the bar and
01:23:38.160
like fucking chicks yeah i would i would ask well yeah if he's like if he's gonna go and say that and
01:23:43.880
then do it that very night i feel like that's a problem but this is like i found this video of you
01:23:48.920
10 years ago it's like well now i know the truth are you am i supposed to just stay in that because
01:23:53.260
i messed up once and i didn't know any better do you just never go back to it wait i'm not sure
01:23:57.900
what you're are you a lot so someone who kind of found out this is the truth and now now i know
01:24:04.220
better did you just stop because oh well you knew better you knew okay you were talking one week ago
01:24:09.840
yeah hold on you were hold on six months guys you guys are the framing on this is totally not
01:24:16.360
you came on the show nine months ago you were single nine months ago your your uh worldview was
01:24:24.840
not to have sex before marriage so it's not this is like a i think it's called a post hoc
01:24:30.640
or wait post hoc justification your your worldview and value system was already don't have sex before
01:24:37.580
marriage you were single you then three months later met a guy and then shortly into your
01:24:43.020
relationship you guys had sex and you've had multiple slip-ups allegedly wait she and then
01:24:48.720
you had sex as recently as a week ago okay but the frequency of time versus like you're trying to turn
01:24:55.860
away every single day like it's a battle every single day but so are they and they're being on
01:25:00.020
coming on here honest and saying they've had sex so it's not fair to be like well i'm religious and
01:25:04.380
i'm reformed so i don't have to face the consequences and they're gonna get shit but
01:25:07.840
they're just being honest whoa i would like to say i'll totally i'll take all the consequences i'm
01:25:13.120
i'm telling you it's really hard and if i could find a way out of this i totally would hold on where's
01:25:18.480
the accountability i'm sorry where's the accountability find the way out of this i think
01:25:24.200
like if uh just don't have sex it's still really hard i think it looks a little worse when you're
01:25:33.320
preaching that people shouldn't do it and you're doing it yeah but do okay but hold on you've been
01:25:37.540
honest but doing but doing it every single day like it doesn't matter is very different than
01:25:41.720
i had to slip up here nobody hears that's where you lose me go ahead abigail go ahead it doesn't make
01:25:48.380
any sense i mean you can say like yeah it doesn't happen every day but still it happened and you're
01:25:54.460
out here preaching you know don't have sex before marriage he just makes a good point when he says
01:25:58.340
practice what you preach yeah i mean yes you made a mistake so don't preach on it oh well i'm still
01:26:04.440
obligated to tell people the truth like hey it's not a great thing to be doing and i have made mistakes
01:26:09.780
i think it's okay to to to you know make mistakes and be like don't do this because i did this and i
01:26:14.180
knew it wasn't right but then it's but then the problem comes in when you're saying well they're
01:26:18.640
fucking around so well i never hold on i never said that i supported jojo when she said i would
01:26:23.400
rather not have it was bright it was bright it wasn't me but hold on i supported i supported
01:26:28.920
everyone who said i think waiting is a good idea i think that's what i'm saying you were very bad
01:26:33.660
thank you sad please thank you i need you in my life but also like the the bigger thing brian what
01:26:40.000
you said of christianity is not about being perfect i think you at least i feel i have the
01:26:45.120
duty to be as honest and forthcoming as i possibly can be because i could have easily said nope never
01:26:50.800
did that yeah i could have lied i could have lied i could have done that and that's what no i appreciate
01:26:55.680
your honesty thank you and that's what to me that's what a hypocrite is and that's the only people that
01:27:00.180
jesus criticized it wasn't the woman at the well who had many husbands he said no i love you don't do
01:27:05.620
this anymore like it's a thing but it was the hypocrites who said we're just so perfect you
01:27:10.340
can't do any of this and lied about all the stuff when they were you know sinning so that's kind of
01:27:16.740
where i'm coming from i'm still a human being like i have needs like i you know your honesty is
01:27:22.640
remarkable thank you i appreciate that okay but it's okay but you you say you have needs you say it's
01:27:29.360
difficult but yeah i'm a human person right but if your world if your worldview is if your value
01:27:35.240
system is and you wrote this in all caps don't have sex before marriage yeah so that's where
01:27:43.400
that's that's my brand you know how you're on like a journey of losing weight and it's like you're
01:27:49.880
like it's really hard to stick to a diet right yeah sure and now what you should do is just not eat
01:27:56.000
any junk food cut out your carbs whatever you want you only eat healthy only whole foods sure but
01:28:00.900
there's gonna be that one oh it's suzy's birthday at the office gotta get her a cake oh i could just
01:28:06.100
have one slice you slip up but i mean okay like it seems really bad oh now you can throw away your
01:28:10.560
whole diet that there's a bit more gravity when it comes to christian faith of course i do like
01:28:15.960
there's i don't think there's any preclusion in the christian faith from eating a donut okay i think
01:28:21.060
you're missing the point of you're trying to stick to something so hardcore and it's a noble endeavor
01:28:27.000
but it's hard it's hard to be disciplined it's hard to be disciplined it's there we go why because
01:28:31.500
we're battling flesh every single day but it's it's like because you you said okay don't have sex
01:28:36.860
before marriage you both agree both you and your partner agree that abstaining is the way to go but
01:28:43.680
it's almost a mockery if you it's not a mockery but you can't okay yes i can yes i can so now you're
01:28:50.480
just justifying having no i'm not justifying i'm not justifying you literally just said yes i can have
01:28:55.740
sex i did not say that i think she's acknowledging that she made a mistake i'm saying i'm allowed to
01:29:00.560
make mistakes am i not allowed to make mistakes i didn't realize every single person on here was
01:29:05.640
perfect if you can how do i do that mistakenly and accidentally hold on but that sees that's where
01:29:10.540
if you if you can that's where things are different we fall on his dick every single week
01:29:16.200
oh and then you repent i don't know i'm sorry i don't know where he's getting that from but it's
01:29:21.140
like but you're saying but hold on you're making the assumption that it's a continuous thing
01:29:26.080
what you're making the assumption that this is happening every week and it's like oh fine well
01:29:30.040
it is what it is like it's really not that big of a deal so that's what you're implying you said
01:29:36.000
the word you're continuously doing this how long have you been together as recently as a month a week
01:29:41.500
so you started sleeping together three months in you know hold on we we messed up we you slipped
01:29:47.460
up there was a time and then and then you slipped up again and then so how often did it happen between
01:29:52.860
the three months that you were together in the week i know it does they're probably having sex
01:29:57.980
regularly i i don't i i find it hard i mean you're allowed to make your assumptions i think
01:30:02.320
why don't you just remove remove all doubt why don't you just tell us thanks jojo i don't need to
01:30:09.920
do that i said you don't know you don't need to i don't need to but you made your assumptions
01:30:14.020
anyway so okay then correct my assumptions okay i will correct that this is not a continuous thing
01:30:20.860
and this doesn't happen every single week i said what i said okay do you guys live together no no we
01:30:28.760
don't shouldn't do that either i'm just i don't know it's a mess it's a bit confusing uh i think
01:30:38.040
you're fine it's like expecting an addict to go cold turkey they're gonna relapse
01:30:41.960
oh that's a crazy i think but nicolette is touching on a really good point the point is
01:30:47.780
and we touched on this with the diet thing it's hard to be disciplined in any facet this is mine
01:30:53.120
that you're you're continuing to continuing to poke and prod at which is fine you can't i know i'm not
01:30:58.840
perfect i did not sit here and say i've never done this i'm admitting that i did like and i'm like
01:31:04.740
but i'm trying to be better you guys like this isn't what i want to do your honesty is commendable
01:31:08.900
your forthcomingness is commendable but if you're if you are essentially preaching or recommending
01:31:15.320
or your worldview is not having sex before marriage and you and your partner both agree
01:31:20.120
that you ought to be abstaining uh okay i'll let me give you this scenario okay uh let's say
01:31:27.020
i actually don't drink but i'll use this as a as a thing okay so let's say i have a drink
01:31:30.800
and then 45 minutes later i drive my car home okay now i know i did that once i'm still gonna
01:31:37.920
tell people hey don't drink and drive are you gonna say oh you can't say that because you did it
01:31:43.600
yeah it's really dangerous and i i don't want to do that again like let's just not do that
01:31:47.420
no but i'm not making the mistake doesn't negate your ability to say okay so my i'm not i'm not
01:31:54.000
criticizing your worldview that uh you're criticizing that i made a mistake hold on i have a different
01:32:00.500
worldview okay but i don't think it's it's a wrong statement to say i'm not arguing don't have sex
01:32:06.400
before marriage i have a different worldview but i don't think it's it's a wrong way to approach dating
01:32:11.840
relationships marriage i think if you can do it great not my own personal uh worldview but for
01:32:18.600
example i'm not a muslim but if i encounter a muslim who just totally disregards any of the but do i
01:32:25.680
totally disregard hold on am i totally disregarding hold on if i meet a muslim who totally disregards
01:32:31.660
the doctrines of the islamic faith eating bacon i'm not an expert in the without you know anything
01:32:38.780
anything else that's haram or they're just not uh meeting uh you know they're not they're sinning
01:32:45.620
i don't know it's haram sinning i don't know what it is haraming i don't know haraming there you go
01:32:49.420
um i'm gonna be like thinking in my head well even though i'm not muslim lol paladin's donated
01:32:56.800
two hundred dollars i like the drinking and driving analogy except brown shirt has drunkenly driven
01:33:03.440
like 10 times already and you know she's about to go out to the bar next week i don't drink but
01:33:10.160
anyway i think what you're the mistake you're making is you're assuming that i'm continuously
01:33:15.260
totally disregarding and i'm telling you i'm not i think i'm telling you i'm not i think this
01:33:21.160
what they're trying to say this the analogy is they're trying to compare it to and apparently i'm
01:33:26.860
gonna go to the bar oh they're saying like sleeping wise you're gonna i just feel like it should be
01:33:31.160
honestly it should be kind of one or the other it's like you're asking me to be perfect or shut up
01:33:39.320
that's my only option do you have a set wedding date maybe that'll show like it's a weird way to
01:33:42.840
put it well put up or shut yeah i'm like oh man that's a rock and a hard place it's really a rock
01:33:49.800
and a hard place you've already it's kind of like oh you're saying yeah you've already done it you
01:33:53.340
might as well just you've already passed the threshold in this but that doesn't mean you have
01:33:57.560
to continue down it is my point but you keep making this well i see you're saying it again you
01:34:02.600
keep making the same mistakes but you you've literally okay so fine the only thing you've told us thus
01:34:07.880
far is you had sex three months in and then as recently as a week ago that's all we know you've
01:34:13.020
refused you so so let's assume you've perhaps you've had three other slip-ups five slip-ups total
01:34:20.900
every couple weeks i don't know why i love where people are getting these numbers
01:34:23.900
sorry so i mean uh oh i don't know it's just but i knew you're i knew you're gonna i knew you're
01:34:35.760
take this angle i totally get it guys i have a confession i am not perfect i don't keep doing
01:34:40.900
this like oh it's fine i'm gonna i'm gonna mess up next week but like i'll totally like ask for
01:34:44.960
forgiveness like that's not my attitude there are people out there like that i won't lie to you
01:34:49.280
i'm trying really hard not to be a hypocrite and not to be one of them it's just okay i'll tell you
01:34:53.360
we've had a lot of christian women come on the show a lot who claim to be these virtuous pure women
01:34:59.940
who are waiting for marriage i'm a sinner dude it sucks cool i hear things through the grapevine
01:35:05.220
okay they're hooking up with dudes behind the scenes they're they're holding their they're
01:35:10.560
taking photos they got they got fucking scripture in their uh instagram bio they got scripture in
01:35:15.740
their instagram bio don't you have like a cross emoji yeah i love jesus in your instagram yeah you
01:35:21.200
know oh i'm waiting till marriage and then like i find find out that they they're hooking up with
01:35:26.680
fuck boys but didn't i'm not doing that he did that's what no condemnation in christ jesus means
01:35:32.440
hey but also the reason i'm comfortable talking about all this is because while i respect all of
01:35:37.260
you and your opinions not one of you can judge me except jesus and he chooses not to so i'm just
01:35:43.400
gonna throw that out there is why i'm okay can i ask confronting this kind of stuff you said you're
01:35:48.560
a christian right so when you make the mistakes do you go through the process of like repentance
01:35:52.960
of course so repent just means turn away and stop doing it well no i from what i understand it's to
01:35:59.300
take accountability for the action of course actually not do it yeah continuously yeah the
01:36:05.240
mistake because then because then it's like there's not really we're getting we're getting really hung
01:36:09.100
up on the continuous again i never said like this is happening every single week i never said that
01:36:14.800
that's what people in chat are saying that's what brian is saying the continuous and the total
01:36:18.260
disregard of principles i'm telling you i'm not doing that i'm just confused because you guys have
01:36:25.760
already had premarital sex so you're saying oh who cares like you might as well no i mean though
01:36:31.240
the ship has sailed no more and just who's who's the one who like seems to be a little more
01:36:38.760
interested in having sex you or him i'd say it's very equal it's it's like we still have the desire
01:36:45.940
but it's like oh no we agreed we're not doing this like it's a you know so i guess like my
01:36:52.140
hang a little hang up on this is to speak more generally or broadly yeah so is we've had a lot
01:36:59.940
of these christian women come on nothing wrong with a generalization great um but they come on
01:37:06.580
and they claim that they're waiting for marriage and they're trying they're putting on this sort of act
01:37:11.720
is that what you believe i'm doing i'm really sorry if that's how it's no i don't think you're
01:37:15.060
well putting on an act insofar as oh i'm waiting i want i'm gonna wait till marriage and like almost
01:37:22.000
all and it typically is the like the non-denominational uh christian women or like
01:37:26.640
protestants or whatever um no offense and some taken no they tend to like come on and speak a big
01:37:34.240
game because it's almost this virtue signaling uh but the reality like what i and i wouldn't i'm not
01:37:40.320
going to expose anybody but like what i hear behind the scenes what i hear through the grapevine
01:37:45.720
they're not waiting till marriage they're hooking up they're doing all this what did you hear about
01:37:49.980
me brian i didn't hear about you okay just wanted to clear that up but so i guess what i'm saying is
01:37:55.420
they'll come on and it's like it frustrates me when people come on and say one thing oh these are
01:38:03.260
my values this is my worldview i'm a good christian woman i'm waiting till marriage and then we had
01:38:08.920
one girl uh she's taken like stories with her bible bible study whatever and then i find find out like
01:38:16.820
she's hooking up she fucks a guy on the first date some fuck boy guy how do you know this
01:38:22.340
people don't go don't gossip and you believe everything you hear from what if i'm f-boy this
01:38:30.420
how about this in that specific with that specific girl i got it directly from the source
01:38:35.820
from the guy she allegedly hooked up with he sent a picture the fuck boy in question he sent a picture
01:38:41.600
let me see the red receipts who cares they actually ended up uh like dating for a while so yeah they
01:38:48.040
were taking stories together but they fucked the first night and she's on the podcast two weeks
01:38:53.240
earlier saying i'm waiting for marriage here's here's the scripture in my instagram bio here's a
01:39:00.260
bible photo that sounds so like judgy i really apologize how is it judgy if i'm coming off that
01:39:07.220
way and uh gross wait what's judgy like the the connotation that's coming out of you describing
01:39:13.920
these christian women like i'm waiting i like if i'm coming off like that someone somebody come get
01:39:19.020
her because that's not how i want to come off at all well i'm just saying i'm speaking in general
01:39:23.140
like these people who come on and will say oh i'm waiting for marriage and then like behind the scenes
01:39:29.320
but i'm saying there's no behind the scenes they're larpings it's really respectful that
01:39:35.160
you came on and were honest because that's the issue with this panel a lot of times it's going
01:39:38.100
to be these girls who are like they're catering to the audience in a different way they're like
01:39:41.480
i never do that i never do that at least the of girls are being honest and they're being truthful
01:39:46.840
you have a bunch of like girls up here i would never you're being honest and you're taking
01:39:51.960
because that's not that's hypocritical if you were and you'd become that kind of person like
01:39:56.860
holier than thou and that's not that's not realistic you're taking the flack for a lot
01:40:01.640
of other girls i am a thousand percent and i'll take i will take all of it that's totally fine
01:40:05.840
i don't mind because i know what i'm doing i know what i'm trying really hard to accomplish
01:40:10.340
and if people want to judge me for it go right ahead judge me for other things i'm also like
01:40:15.000
a huge interrupter like i'm really impatient get me for those things too okay anyways um so let me
01:40:22.040
get a couple chats in we'll continue on with the relationship status bro naissance uh can i have
01:40:26.500
you read this one who me yeah if you can do the reads go ahead what's hina you know i know what is
01:40:34.000
this the girl in the blue shirt is a wife she needs a ring the a cup brown shirt makes the turner
01:40:40.820
look like a decent human being brian i can guide you to uh oh a better diet and exercise mindset
01:40:46.860
dm me okay thank you bro appreciate it read this one please one second go ahead you okay uh thank you
01:40:56.280
man but the appeal to hypocrisy a doctor who smokes advocating for people not to smoke doesn't suddenly
01:41:03.460
negate the fact that smoking is objectively bad for you she fucked and fucks up and knows oh my gosh
01:41:10.600
and she does she knows me too okay she said me too is the problem is the problem that you have
01:41:19.920
with it that she advocates like no sex before marriage or is it like because like i totally
01:41:25.880
understand because i'm kind of like same situation but i'm married but i'm just but i don't advocate
01:41:31.620
no sex for marriage i say like hey it's a good idea because i know i've messed up already so there's
01:41:36.760
no i can't say anything about it but is the problem that you feel like she's advocating it's
01:41:41.620
definitely the advocation because it seems hypocritical yeah when you say when you say
01:41:46.080
advocate what is what is the advocate okay well just okay because i didn't talk to anyone for not
01:41:51.200
doing it i'm just saying that's my choice so he's trying to say that i'm doing a uh two quote
01:41:55.500
two coquet i don't know how the fuck i don't know an appeal to hypocrisy so basically it's it is
01:42:00.500
it would be so here's the thing though it would be a logical fallacy if you were trying to discredit
01:42:06.780
somebody's argument so example i'm not saying that her claim is wrong is the difference so in your in
01:42:12.620
your example you're saying a doctor who smokes advocating here i'll pull it up a doctor who smokes
01:42:19.060
advocating for people not to smoke doesn't suddenly negate the fact that smoking is objectively bad for
01:42:25.400
you so i don't actually disagree with her on her position however because that's the case because
01:42:33.000
i'm not actually trying to say i'm not trying to say or argue well actually waiting until marriage is
01:42:39.380
bad and because you're a hypocrite i made a mistake at all so i should just no i'm just it's not i'm not
01:42:45.840
appealing to hypocrisy or doing a like a what's it called um i'm not trying to destroy your worldview
01:42:55.540
or your argument you're just saying me personally you should speak on this because you failed no i'm
01:43:01.580
just literally calling you a hypocrite oh interesting okay so i'm not trying to i'm not
01:43:07.280
trying oh it's just that i'm not trying to defeat your argument that you're in favor of waiting
01:43:12.060
until sex for marriage by pointing out that while you're a hypocrite so in this example a doctor
01:43:17.320
who smokes advocating for people not to smoke doesn't suddenly negate the fact that smoking
01:43:21.820
is objectively bad uh so in this case brian if that's the case since i have made mistakes in my
01:43:28.200
life i will never tell anyone what to do because i'm like hey i already did it sorry brian said i can't
01:43:32.880
do it that's not what i'm saying of like hypocrisy you could admit you're like a little bit of
01:43:36.900
hypocrite right yeah who cares but guys hypocrite is like a continued pattern of behavior like
01:43:43.140
it's a day like this is who you are now okay to avoid taking that ability that's your opinion
01:43:49.300
which you're allowed to have can i see it's not what i'm doing just go ahead actually okay um i
01:43:55.600
actually think that like making mistakes is super crucial and like advocating for what you believe
01:44:00.080
in because if you are blindly following something and you've never like experienced the other side like
01:44:05.400
how are you going to know where you stand fully because you're just like following like without
01:44:11.220
even knowing like i mean some people learn by example and that's what wisdom is where you can
01:44:14.980
learn from other people's mistakes and not have to experience it hear you but if i was drinking one
01:44:19.300
week ago and i came on the podcast i do not drink it's horrible you're not going to take me like
01:44:23.400
seriously is the word of the yeah you know what i mean and then nine months because you were honest
01:44:28.720
but at the same time it seems so little she didn't take that route you guys caught me at a bad time
01:44:34.680
no you're good i i genuinely respect you so much for being honest because it would have been way
01:44:39.020
easier to lie but i understand what they're saying as well no i get what you guys are saying but
01:44:43.940
again i agree what the the basis of your argument is since you have made this mistake you can no
01:44:48.600
longer advocate for what you believe is the right way which you can but it doesn't mean as much
01:44:53.260
to be honest right i mean then i don't think anyone should advocate for anything none of us are
01:44:57.560
perfect i don't even agree with that you're totally welcome to advocate for whatever you want to
01:45:00.860
but also understand that people are going to call you a hypocrite and you don't follow your own
01:45:04.380
that's fine i do follow it so i do follow it and i made a mistake going back going back to what he's
01:45:08.540
trying to argue when it comes to the appeal to hypocrisy so there's a lot people will use logical
01:45:13.260
fallacies in an attempt to defeat a position but i'm not trying to defeat her position yeah he's
01:45:18.900
not trying to prove me why that's not a good i'm just simply outright calling her a hypocrite yeah
01:45:22.840
you're allowed to do that i don't think you understand what it means so with the doctor smoking hold on
01:45:25.780
the doctor smoking example it would be like you can certainly acknowledge that smoking is wrong
01:45:33.360
but you can still be like just because the doctor smokes i'm not trying to negate that smoking is
01:45:40.240
objectively bad i'm just simply pointing out it's he's saying the doctor should practice practice what
01:45:47.020
he preaches yes he ought to he ought to but it's not make if if my position like if my position was
01:45:54.420
well smoking is good smoking's good you're saying don't smoke well you smoke so my position is is uh
01:46:02.500
reaffirmed that's what that's not really what i'm trying to get out anyways you're a fat girl
01:46:07.600
telling us we need to lose weight you're not wrong you're just a asshole and you're also everything
01:46:12.760
wrong with modern christianity oh wow oh damn i didn't know i was fat i you're not literally i think
01:46:19.460
he's trying to make an analogy here oh i need to lose my mic oh my brother i was like damn that
01:46:26.580
sucks john john green says how many mistakes constitutes mistake is that john green like
01:46:31.480
the author she knows she made a mistake yeah it's definitely the author no no you're good it's 100%
01:46:35.660
the author he's lying yeah thank you john green i love your book he's a liar uh where we're oh we're
01:46:42.540
getting around damn okay it's taking us a while to get through all this stuff okay what about you
01:46:45.640
relationship um single i've been single for about three years uh my longest relationship was almost
01:46:51.400
four okay single for three years now last time i perhaps this was an error uh i asked if you've been
01:46:58.540
on any dates in that three years and i believe you said no correct i hadn't i recently started dating
01:47:03.200
about the last two months ago since then i've been more willing to date more trying to get out there
01:47:10.680
i guess okay can i also interrupt because jojo had to say her body count but nobody else has yet
01:47:17.980
i said oh because i just felt like people were assuming all right so this i guess this is a bit
01:47:26.460
of a new revelation here with jojo because i think i previously asked if you've been dating you said no
01:47:30.260
i haven't been dating at all but you are doing kind of like the more casual hookup thing so i mean for
01:47:34.880
you even though you've been single for three three years have you been doing like casual hookups um i
01:47:39.520
haven't been doing casual hookups the most recent since i've been on the podcast has been about like
01:47:44.680
a month and a half that i've been seeing one person so it's is it still ongoing i don't think so oh so
01:47:51.800
you how long were you seeing them uh like a month and a half but it and like you stopped recently yeah
01:47:57.520
okay so you guys were hooking up them uh once yeah just just once yeah and wait so how many times did
01:48:06.320
you guys hang out like five wait orientation um i would say bisexual for sure man or woman i was a
01:48:19.040
man okay and so wait the last time you hung out was that time you guys hooked up no there's one time
01:48:28.380
after that i mean we never we haven't stopped seeing each other i just don't know i don't know
01:48:33.720
do you guys live in the same city yeah i just don't really see it going anywhere
01:48:38.020
whoa i think you just have to date a few people and see who you like i'm just i'm really not perfect
01:48:45.460
i'm trying to be perfect well you should be perfect i'm trying you should be figure it out figure it out
01:48:51.720
no i was um well are you religious no i was just celibate because i'm her worldview probably has no
01:49:00.320
uh restrictions i was hold on her worldview probably has no restrictions on premarital sex
01:49:06.420
so it wouldn't be imperfect for her to have sex at any point in the courtship process at least from
01:49:12.860
her worldview i was only celibate because like you said i can't separate i just don't enjoy casual sex
01:49:19.080
it's not it was never a thing of oh i want to go this long i want to like i want to wait till this it
01:49:24.800
was like if i met somebody and we clicked and i felt comfortable and i liked them and i thought it was
01:49:29.260
going to go somewhere i was comfortable doing that uh it just happened to take two and a half years
01:49:33.920
but yeah i'm not religious by any means i'm not waiting for anything right um i just don't enjoy
01:49:40.780
casual sex so okay yeah but you think this is over then uh we'll see it's still early i don't i don't
01:49:48.200
want to say too much i don't know do you do you like him a bit more than he likes you or is it
01:49:52.360
i can't tell i think because i've been alone for so long it's hard for me to really tell if i'm like
01:49:57.240
infatuated or like actually like somebody i don't think you like this guy that much to be honest
01:50:02.480
sorry what about you i am married married how long have you guys been married gonna be a year in july
01:50:11.760
all right how long were you guys dating before that so it's gonna be 10 years now so we've been
01:50:18.400
together since we were 15. wow high school sweethearts okay you go girl thank you do you guys
01:50:23.480
have kids no okay just corgis yeah just four corgis five allegedly five i thought we had five
01:50:30.100
um i am married all right how long a little over a year now all right cool cool uh natalie what about
01:50:41.720
you i'm single i've been single for like a year and a half my longest relationship is probably about a
01:50:47.300
year all right and one year no prospects you've been on the when you were on a couple months ago
01:50:55.480
nothing in between um wait last time you're wrong wasn't there a little something there's a little
01:51:01.640
something i was contemplating because i don't want to go viral for this because i don't want to
01:51:06.420
disrespect steve um wait you're dating steve am it no no no no no he's a handsome guy steve's a cat
01:51:13.200
steve's a cat no no no he's he's he's thrice divorced do you want to be thrice no no no no no no
01:51:20.160
no the guy i was talking to yo shout out steve bannon steve is the best we love steve we should get
01:51:26.080
him on the show well he's a little busy start in july is he what's the i go to prison
01:51:32.160
wait what uh for how long for four months and we can wait he'll be out he'll be out like he'll be
01:51:39.980
out in the fall for the election no conspiracies no coincidences but i'm sure you guys don't hear
01:51:44.300
about that uh no i wasn't i haven't really been following that what uh what did they get him on
01:51:49.480
okay so the tl dr on that is um he technically they say defied a congressional subpoena which came
01:51:56.740
from the january 6th committee but it was an illegitimate sham committee uh comprised by the
01:52:00.940
democrats so there is a small chance that of house republicans get their act together and
01:52:04.420
establish this like blag advisory group that they can basically render that committee null and void
01:52:10.780
so then that subpoena would not really be in effect an actual subpoena so and it could be overturned the
01:52:16.720
prosecution and currently peter navarro is serving a similar sentence uh he's the only misdemeanor in a
01:52:23.060
miami-based correctional facility everyone else is felons but he's technically still waiting on his
01:52:27.720
appeal but i would argue and i feel like it's wait steve bannon's appeal um no no peter navarro
01:52:32.780
one of trump's top economic advisors but um the timing to me is very curious war room like i said
01:52:38.600
is a very very influential show on sort of the maga right in terms of getting people involved and his
01:52:43.960
sentence is going to overlap right to the run-up um to the election and you can already see msnbc the
01:52:49.620
way they were covering they were gloating on air about how it's going to be silencing our podcast and
01:52:53.300
all that jazz so again democrats ignore congressional subpoenas all the time nothing happens to them
01:52:59.740
but when it's not just republicans but anti-establishment republicans they always seem
01:53:03.220
to get thrown in jail but the the story of unrelated to that yeah as you can imagine i'm busy dealing
01:53:09.780
with with all of that and if steve goes to jail i will likely have to take over the show um but i think
01:53:15.740
that the guy that i was talking to last time i feel like he was gay it happens that was a wild turn
01:53:22.140
watch yeah he was like we should uh hmm i don't know if i want clips to be saying this
01:53:31.360
um he was like we should okay let me let me just put this in context sure so i'm i'm hosting my show
01:53:39.780
okay and i always have my phone on do not disturb and i open it when i get off air like i'm expecting
01:53:46.100
nothing to you know whatever like maybe a good morning text i don't know and i just open it and
01:53:52.280
it's just like stream of consciousness like 20 texts like we should s the d together i really want
01:54:00.500
to be on like just crazy stuff he's had pictures of other people's other men's that came out of nowhere
01:54:08.520
out of absolutely i have known him for like 72 hours i had like okay i was excuse me what the
01:54:16.460
literal f it gets better it gets better i ignore it okay i'm like i don't even know what to say to
01:54:25.180
this so i fly back home and i think from my instagram story or something he sees that i'm home he's
01:54:30.720
like hey are you around i'm like oh like i'm busy he's like oh i'm leaving town tomorrow i was like
01:54:35.620
oh like too bad the next day he texts me he's like hey so sorry uh i just met someone that i'm gonna
01:54:43.320
start dating you're really cool we should be friends but um i'm gonna like focus on her
01:54:50.980
and then kept texting me and like sending me really weird pictures like of where i live
01:54:58.160
so it got really weird wait the guy who's the guy you thought was gay or was gay yeah well i think
01:55:05.940
we don't know i think he like it's like a repressed thing i and and it's like i would he it was he
01:55:12.160
didn't really want to have it three-way he just wanted to be there for plausible deniability so he
01:55:15.600
wasn't gay wait you but you how long did you know this guy three days three days you knew him
01:55:22.220
three days how did you guys mean the podcast um like dating up no no just out in florida we had
01:55:29.660
mutual friends we'd come and so he's he texted you and he said he wants to s the d
01:55:36.880
he wanted to s the d with me like a like yeah wow that's not weird that's a lot that's crazy
01:55:45.440
so i was like okay he's probably not straight there's something funky there i mean yeah you
01:55:53.940
dodged a bullet girl what else any anything else that he was saying you said it was like a stream
01:55:58.480
of consciousness um well besides s and d pictures of like dudes yeah that he wanted like like just
01:56:08.240
like one of them looked like ai he is not closeted but he's out yeah no it was really weird i was
01:56:15.100
like i was like oh my gosh i don't i don't know what to do uh what's going on in florida man
01:56:20.140
serious florida's just rated the worst day to date and that being said there is a new person that i'm
01:56:24.660
talking to how many days has it been i know every time i call whatever it's there's always someone new
01:56:29.900
but it's like too early to say anything um it's been like a month oh be careful no yeah no
01:56:37.480
nothing weird yet nothing weird yet well yeah everything we're gonna call it the the natalie
01:56:43.600
winters rule you have to wait 72 hours before making a determination if a man's potentially gay
01:56:49.440
or not if you get any sus text from a guy within a 72 hour period you've been wintered isn't that wild
01:56:58.440
damn that's his name is steve no no yeah this is so not oh i don't know okay no no no steve is
01:57:06.640
i would be honored to find a man like steve that is age appropriate but i don't know if they make
01:57:11.600
guys like that anymore so going back to steve do you think you were going to get him out or what
01:57:18.520
you know get him out of prison yeah once he got does he have a report by day he has to report by
01:57:23.000
july 1st and even though he is a non-violent offender no history of anything at all they're
01:57:28.660
trying to put usually like people maybe people are familiar like dinesh d'souza or those type cases
01:57:33.380
they go to what's called like club fed which is sort of like a low security like bunk bed style
01:57:38.680
it's not like hardcore but they're putting steve in like a hardcore maximum security with like child
01:57:44.600
i won't get into it all like really bad people and even potentially putting him in in rikers because
01:57:50.620
he uses another court case that's pending in the state of new york for other stuff all of this being
01:57:55.540
said obviously just like president trump is a convicted felon same with steve they're just going after
01:58:01.000
them it's obviously just lawfare but it really is horrible what they're doing to someone who is
01:58:04.920
i think one of the leading patriots in this country i'm honored to work for him and i'm sorry to bring
01:58:10.100
him up after i just said what i was talking about but um yeah and it was just like he didn't respond
01:58:16.700
to a subpoena that's it yeah eric holder has defied subpoenas nothing happened to him um he was a
01:58:23.540
democrat had to do with the fast and furious scandal they just voted to hold merrick garland the ag
01:58:27.140
currently um in contempt of congress nothing has happened to him um but like i said it's really
01:58:32.480
just because of the um the podcast i mean i'm sure you know when it comes to censorship and demonetization
01:58:37.880
and all that it's really just the culmination of years of censoring a deep platform or banned on
01:58:42.300
youtube and spotify so they just want them off off air well yeah i'm sorry to hear about what's going
01:58:48.920
on with steve sorry to hear what happened to you and that one guy that's crazy wait what was going on
01:58:55.280
over here my dad texted me oh you still have your phone on you apple watch even though you did you
01:59:02.700
miss the part where we were collecting the phones i didn't know it was watches too i'm sorry oh it's
01:59:07.160
just a watch okay all right that's why we missed it all right whatever uh we're going around
01:59:11.860
relationship status and body counts well we got everybody's right okay so oh she wants you really
01:59:17.700
want that you want to ask body count question go ahead hey guys what's your body count my date
01:59:21.520
eight um i have to count real quick okay let it wait do you have a list in your phone or something
01:59:28.100
no i can like recall yeah okay go for it let it out can you say their names while you do it
01:59:33.040
and their social security number and their credit card number would you give us the ranking
01:59:36.780
mother's maiden name while you're at it no like i'm gonna say like maybe six range i'll say six
01:59:41.520
if it's six you can count to six yeah do you want to keep counting hit that multiply by three button
01:59:47.480
i know multiply it by three and that's i don't have to answer i don't know exact number somewhere
01:59:54.640
like in the 30s 30s okay mine's six i've been more than forthcoming range do you want to give us a
02:00:01.880
range no less than more than no eight one one less than five all right there you go cool
02:00:15.000
good talk multiply it by three that's the real number just kidding i'm just kidding okay so let's
02:00:22.260
get into uh some of the pre-show notes it's taken us a while let me do two chats and then we'll get
02:00:26.220
into it uh can you read this oh i feel bad already brown shirt you are very smug self-righteous
02:00:34.560
holier than thou and a hypocrite you can advocate for abstinence before marriage but we don't have to
02:00:42.100
take you seriously when you slip up often damn sorry i'm not perfect my bad i wish i were perfect
02:00:51.500
all right go ahead thank you john green i wish most women were like maddie opened conversation
02:00:57.780
understanding that are willing to sacrifice so you don't have to what okay john green thank you man
02:01:05.220
appreciate it appreciate it dude all right thank you man all right let's get into the pre-show notes so
02:01:11.720
we have uh abby let's start with abby abby you said you've been on many dates most of them were
02:01:17.520
weird but the weirdest was probably the guy from ventura who kept taking photos of me for keepsake
02:01:23.440
on a first date uh what happened there tell us the yes so i was on a date in ventura um and we were at
02:01:34.040
the beach and it was just like a normal first date we were going on a walk that's what i like to do
02:01:39.040
um and he kept taking pictures of me on the date and i wasn't doing anything i was just like walking
02:01:47.140
beside him and his phone kept coming up and i'd be like oh haha that's cool that's funny um and i like
02:01:55.840
was a little uncomfortable but i wasn't gonna say anything about it because like maybe that's normal
02:02:01.320
maybe i don't know if that's normal maybe it's normal but it wasn't until he kept saying like oh this
02:02:06.840
one's just for keepsake oh this one like i'm gonna look at this later then i got pretty ew i got pretty
02:02:12.780
freaked out yeah um that was probably the weirdest one
02:02:25.920
can i get those pictures back i want those pictures some of them were probably cute
02:02:32.980
but like wouldn't it be kind of cool if this is the guy you end up dating for a long time or even
02:02:39.480
like spending your life with that would be cool and here's like here's photos of us on our first
02:02:43.380
date that'd be kind of cool right but he was weird about it sorry i was like no it was weird it was
02:02:48.240
weird okay he said i'm saving this for later that's yeah i don't know about that i feel like it always
02:02:54.120
depends who does it like if it's some super hunk that does it you're like that was so hot that was
02:02:58.460
straight out of a movie and if it's some guy you're not attracted to you're like oh that was
02:03:01.880
kind of odd so if you're not attractive it's gonna feel if a hunk is still taking photos of you saying
02:03:07.640
i'm saving this i'd be like dang i look good probably oh shit i don't know you you also said
02:03:14.820
you have stories about sugar daddies yes i've had some sugar daddies how did you meet them seeking
02:03:20.140
um it's called sugar daddy.com oh sugar dad i've never heard of that one sugar daddy.com
02:03:26.060
i couldn't like figure out seeking arrangements like maybe i'm just dense but like i couldn't
02:03:30.380
figure it out couldn't figure it out wait okay i feel like we must know because you've lived in
02:03:34.240
santa barbara for nine months without a job it has to be a sugar daddy right it's not cheap here it's
02:03:40.140
more expensive than la your money it's fine if it is i want to add are the dates for like free meals too
02:03:47.400
wait yeah the guy from like what two two nights ago did he buy you dinner no oh it was we were only
02:04:00.820
like hanging out for a little bit and then it was did you meet him on sugar daddy.com no okay
02:04:06.680
uh so you have how many how many sugar daddies have you had i've had just two sugar daddies for
02:04:13.620
like a very short amount of time okay let's yeah let's talk a bit about that so how short like a
02:04:20.060
month each ish one month each yeah okay did you hook up with either of them um kind of like it depends
02:04:27.820
on your definition of carnal knowledge sure sexual intercourse um maybe
02:04:41.760
okay so you saw them and you both met them or you met both of them from this website
02:04:49.000
are you still on the website no why did you get off it um because i don't like them they're like
02:04:55.460
they're too old like i'm not attracted to them like i don't know like i thought i could be attracted
02:04:59.440
to the like older guys i was seeing and then like i just wasn't like i'm not going to use them
02:05:04.640
isn't that literally what a sugar daddy i'll use them like a little bit but like not fully
02:05:10.440
okay so uh what was the nature of the exchange or transaction with the first sugar daddy
02:05:20.480
um what do you mean like what was like the well i'm assuming you met him maybe for coffee or dinner
02:05:26.720
initially we went on a walk did he have to pay for that date did he pay for the walk
02:05:32.480
i mean i've we've had girls on the show who do these seeking arrangements sugar daddy things
02:05:39.340
and they charge for dates yeah they'll charge to even meet up for coffee no it actually happened he
02:05:45.120
offered to like grab the coffee while we walked and i was like too freaked out because i didn't want
02:05:49.500
him to like spike it so i bought the coffee and i brought the coffee to the date did he pay you for
02:05:56.560
the date no okay so how was he sugaring like what was the sugaring the sugaring came later like after
02:06:03.820
so what okay but so would he just send you money just because um not usually like it would be like
02:06:10.120
after the date like if we went out to supper he'd like buy supper and then send me some money yeah how
02:06:15.820
much no way you want to know how much yeah that's very very much no way no way i like that you called
02:06:24.320
it supper that was really cute anybody else here had sugar daddy i had sugar daddies but i never
02:06:29.260
wanted dates with them i've had men send me money but i want to call them sugar daddies yeah i just
02:06:33.940
went on one on friday yeah well let's hear from you really quick then we'll come back to her so you
02:06:38.160
guys just random dudes on internet send you money like twitch streams yeah yeah yeah same yeah like i
02:06:44.060
don't communicate with them offline but like sometimes i'll even be in like the background
02:06:47.760
of one of their streams and i'll get like a paypal of eight hundred dollars i'm like dang okay
02:06:51.160
yeah damn i don't get eight hundred dollars yeah that happens i get like 20 bucks if i'm lucky
02:06:56.780
dial yeah sorry about you nicolette how much yeah it depends like the amount of time but they'd pay
02:07:04.820
you for like if you went out with them for dinner they'd pay you yeah and i wouldn't wait till after
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i'm definitely getting it like when i get there all right putting her on some game right here okay
02:07:12.680
so like for a dinner i mean what what would you charge i guess um on friday i got a thousand
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yeah what about like a wednesday um it would still be a thousand it just depends on like how much time
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they want with me okay so if it's just a dinner and it would be just dinner right yeah yeah they want
02:07:32.380
more time with me than more money okay and have you had any dudes just randomly send you money or
02:07:38.840
yeah i twitch stream as well well i think like sending a donut during a stream i don't know if
02:07:44.980
that's really like it's more so like you're privately conversing and no no not conversing hey babe here's
02:07:50.420
200 sometimes i i will get like random money and be like hey i bought your lunch today and they'll
02:07:55.500
send money like so they'll message well yeah chatters will do that they'll like even off stream they'll
02:07:59.960
just like yeah it's not expected to respond from discord yeah yeah just yeah yeah so if you're
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comfortable uh just i'm curious how much they're paying you um like a few hundred like 300 maybe
02:08:12.060
not in total or like in one transaction um like per date per date yeah 300 bucks always 300 bucks
02:08:22.180
with one of them yeah like that was like the rate if you will okay and then would they ever send you
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money to like take care of expenses like for a haircut or for a car bill or uh utilities rent anything
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like that no not with like a sugar daddy but i was seeing a guy who was like how old was he 24
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and he was sending me mad money all the time just i wasn't even like hanging out with him he would send
02:08:48.620
me things he'd be like how did you meet him just like hinge and when you said he you say he was
02:08:55.040
sending you mad money what do you mean yeah no he'd be like here's 200 for yoga clothes like here's
02:09:00.460
100 for gas like whatever just i didn't ask how much total do you think he sent you maybe 2 000
02:09:08.380
2 000 okay and what about the uh other two sugar daddies how much did the first one send you total
02:09:14.960
i don't know like i wasn't counting well a couple thousand if we say like i went on a date with him
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like once a week for a month that's like 36 like not very much and then the other one do you know
02:09:28.280
how much total maybe 500 like it wasn't anything okay why was the hinge guy sending you money just
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because i don't know i really don't know i'm not sure did you guys ever hook up no you never slept
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together no i know i know simps are ruining dating oh boy imagine like you're 21 right
02:09:51.740
imagine dating a girl in college and some fucking simp is sending her hundreds of dollars just
02:09:57.040
because she exists should have been on the dating app sooner oh my god that's crazy uh i want to know
02:10:04.180
how he has that much money at 24 and he's know what he's doing the problem is he probably doesn't
02:10:07.940
oh yeah a lot of men will go into debt to send wait was he was he trying to like meet up with you
02:10:13.340
though or he was just being full-on simp like here's money but no expectations yes he literally
02:10:18.640
said that like it's okay if like we don't hang out or do anything is it pay pig you like that
02:10:22.800
would you yell at him he would also like was it like a fandom thing
02:10:30.420
this is an insane what the hell was that what the hell was even that
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oh boy all right uh we're still okay it's crazy it's crazy all right no i mean not what you're
02:10:48.260
doing is crazy more so i blame the dudes yeah i blame the guys doing this shit that's that's
02:10:54.200
crazy he would do this weird thing where he would like take me out to dinner and order a lot of food
02:10:59.020
even though i insisted like it's kind of expensive like we don't need that much food he would order
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like a whole buffet for us and wouldn't touch a single bite and he'd say go have some no have some
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was he a feeder i think so he's a feeder he's trying to get her fat yeah you're not a great target
02:11:14.520
you're quite small no i don't even know he's trying to make her big he's trying to get her
02:11:19.140
big why me was it a white guy yes oh my fuck the white guys no more white men no more feeders
02:11:25.420
oh boy man white men what the fuck fuck all right you said uh you almost got kidnapped
02:11:35.280
yes that's a different guy yes what happened there um he was like almost 30 and he just had like
02:11:44.300
all sorts of red flags he did actually have a minivan a honda what is it called a honda odyssey
02:11:49.140
that's why i don't go outside yeah you gotta be really quick your chat is the audio we we changed
02:11:56.340
something with the audio does it sound different does it sound better we boosted the gain a little
02:12:01.660
bit and then also we did like a it's either a high pass or low pass filter uh to hopefully
02:12:08.240
hopefully cut out some of the background uh background noise i don't know if it's done
02:12:13.900
anything but chat can you i saw somebody in the chat saying the audio sounds bad nick could you pull
02:12:19.780
up the chat for me really quick uh so chat is it sound okay does it sound does it sound better does
02:12:26.480
it sound worse does it sound better or worse than normal audio is good i hear the low pass
02:12:34.760
seems like we're good sound weird trying to explain sound good clear sounds normal so we we boosted the
02:12:45.040
gain last show but we didn't change the like either high pass low pass filter that we just did today
02:12:50.900
but last show we boosted the gain a little bit uh have you guys heard any peaking yes peaking or no
02:13:01.060
butters blue pills background cars sound worse sus statement audio chill sounds okay more low than
02:13:11.720
wait more low than normal that's weird i think it sounds lower than normal audio good show equals bad
02:13:20.020
sweet thank you man what is peaking i'm peaking oh my god all right i'm sure it's fine i'll do an
02:13:29.400
assessment i would just leave it for the rest of the show so uh kidnapped did you tell the story there
02:13:35.400
um i didn't actually get kidnapped obviously because i'm i'm here right now today what was the story of
02:13:41.520
the story was that like we were on a date we were walking around that's like my favorite first date
02:13:47.160
because like i don't know i don't want to be stuck anywhere public place easy to run away for sure
02:13:51.960
for sure i did run don't you worry i did um but yeah like he was like we should get some ice cream or
02:13:58.120
something like after this and i said okay sure and as we were like walking to his minivan because at the
02:14:05.160
time i didn't have a car um he just like kind of grabbed me and he was like oh like hop in like
02:14:12.540
why are you resisting and i was like oh um you know i don't actually really want ice cream anymore
02:14:18.980
like i'm not comfortable and he's like well most women would have gotten in the car by now and i was
02:14:23.320
like oh okay and i like i don't even remember like i blacked out but i like somehow weaseled my way out
02:14:28.760
and i just booked it well that's the story well i'm happy you're safe now yeah he actually said like
02:14:34.360
the word resisting yes oh wow well i was resisting you need to be more careful on these hinge dates
02:14:39.840
i wonder how he would explain a public place yeah yeah i don't think you can explain that
02:14:46.860
i mean that's a weird scenario to put any person in though he's like come in the van if you want
02:14:51.340
to come in the van that's literally what they teach you in stranger danger yeah but what if was he like
02:14:57.860
did he go was he already in the van like did he sit in his seat and then you were yeah if you're
02:15:03.840
walking towards the van and then he just like grabbed me and i was like oh yeah you like grabbed
02:15:11.580
your arms yeah my arm and was like get in the van but like what has the conversation been before you
02:15:17.900
went on the date wasn't more of like a hookup vibe a date vibe even not that anyway whatever
02:15:23.280
i'm just very pro stating expectations before dates because then there's no like miscommunication
02:15:29.220
but it would have never been your fault i'm just curious like i have no idea he seemed normal enough
02:15:35.920
i guess like we were having normal like first date conversation i don't know you didn't know if it
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was like a sort of hookup situation or even through conversation i have no idea oh i'm glad you're safe
02:15:49.040
i'm glad you're safe too but i feel like well at least the the way you explained it definitely sounds
02:15:54.720
sus from from his part that's pretty pretty pretty sketchy so there's two sides he was like almost 30
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that's uncomfortable that's very uncomfortable that's creepy uh okay you said dating hot takes
02:16:11.320
i keep finding people that people don't understand how stds are transmitted fucking scary because nobody
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around here has ever seen a condom what do you mean by that um exactly what i said um in isla vista
02:16:22.320
people like don't use protection and i've also found that like if i've ever like hooked up with
02:16:27.860
someone and i was the one to bring up like oh like when was the last time you got tested they either
02:16:33.400
like just have never like been tested ever in their entire fucking lives and they might be like in their
02:16:39.640
20s and they've hooked up with several people um and then like sometimes like people would say like
02:16:46.760
oh you would just know if you have an std i was like holy shit you can have chlamydia for months
02:16:54.740
and not know it and it'll totally it can mess up your fertility you want people to have children
02:16:57.820
you have it too long like it's you gotta get tested regardless the whole thing yeah okay all right
02:17:04.000
and i mean so like you'd be hooking up the guy and he's oh don't have a condom i'm allergic to latex
02:17:11.520
you can get um you can get condoms that aren't latex oh i know there's other mediums i know he
02:17:17.000
didn't i guess you should keep them on you you should keep them on you yeah you should just he
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wasn't gonna use it either way um you can make him use it don't do anything until he uses it we
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didn't do anything okay but i'm just like saying for the future you should keep them with you
02:17:31.540
and keep yourself safe keep yourself safe yes i'm aware yeah okay great wait i have a question on
02:17:38.920
this i have a question on this so obviously like uh would you guys be fine like let's say you're
02:17:44.240
hooking up the guy and you want to have sex but he's like oh i i don't really like to use condoms
02:17:49.460
and assuming he respected your boundaries but he said well i don't want to have sex unless it's uh
02:17:58.100
without a condom would you respect no i'm not i'm not saying would you have sex with him that's not
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what i'm asking you respect you he can have his boundaries you can have your boundaries right
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but would you respect his choice to not want to have sex um i'll respect and also think that he
02:18:17.640
might be a little nasty everyone has their preferences i think it's just having those
02:18:23.120
conversations before you're intimate with somebody and knowing strangers without a condom that's crazy
02:18:27.700
if he can pull up his like std history and when he's last but did he get tested two days ago
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also if someone says they don't want to have sex i'm not gonna be like what the are you serious
02:18:37.660
like if you don't want to we don't have to it's okay if he's pulling it same day hey this is my std
02:18:42.540
test and it's like all i just think if you want to coincide it's dated today what yeah literally i
02:18:48.640
feel like if you want to have sex without a condom that's like you either need to be in a relationship
02:18:52.060
or very close to being in a relationship everyone's entitled to their preferences and you're entitled to
02:18:57.160
say no safety first well i'm i'm very yeah pro safe sex as in like getting tested every sexual
02:19:04.660
partner every time you even have sexual intercourse things like that so like 70 first yeah i'll get
02:19:12.240
shit i'll get my view on this uh so i'm not interested in like having a bunch of casual sex
02:19:17.080
a bunch of different people like i prefer having like a girlfriend long-term relationship but truthfully
02:19:23.140
at least for me um i feel like it's kind of like land of no return or whatever i don't know
02:19:28.140
once you've had sex without the condom you can't go back i'd honestly literally like if if it's the
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the choice is have sex with her with a condom and don't have sex with her i'd rather just not have
02:19:38.920
sex i mean condoms do i know that sounds crazy i'm a woman and i'm a 100p on that i'd rather just not
02:19:44.800
it honestly it doesn't do but it could go two ways with men and women they could be kind of like
02:19:50.780
manipulating in the way where it's like oh i'm not saying it's but that's the thing is like i
02:19:56.140
totally agree with you but that's why i would never have sex if i wasn't like in a relationship
02:19:59.440
very close to being in one i i would rather like i'd rather just if we have to have sex with a condom
02:20:04.720
like i'd rather just not and i'm totally cool with us not having sex yeah i would just rather
02:20:10.160
like if she tried to like pressure me no let's still fuck i'd be like toughy let's just cuddle
02:20:15.280
that's a toughy day i'm gonna turn her down i'm gonna turn her down i'm not gonna if she's not
02:20:21.920
like if she's just not down we can hit it from the back that's totally cool that's totally cool we
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don't i just rather not have sex crazy sorry crazy no if you're a relationship guy that makes sense to
02:20:33.620
me that's fine yeah all right if you never said that if you're sleep if you're sleeping with random
02:20:38.100
people you should be you know using condom whatever they're like if it's hookups easily
02:20:41.980
completely different but like if you're not having sex outside of relationships like it doesn't
02:20:45.260
really like matter that's as long as you're tested before and after probably just during as
02:20:50.800
well wait during yeah during as well in case your partner you're getting tested during a
02:20:55.860
relationship yes i'd rather just not have a hand job like if the only choice like i'm with a girl
02:21:03.660
and she's like i don't want to do anything else but i guess i'll get oh yeah that's terrible
02:21:07.600
framing but yeah like the pity hand job it's a pity hand job this dry hand can do a lot of work
02:21:13.500
i'd rather just not even i don't even want a hand job no hand job natalie's like right right chat
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wait chat i'll take three i'll take three like i don't want to do anything but i'll give you a
02:21:28.140
hand job wouldn't you turn down the hand job that's crazy that's crazy you rather your own hand
02:21:33.540
no i'd rather nothing you rather world of warcraft there's no such thing as a good
02:21:39.240
world of warcraft my baby there's no such thing there's no there's no such thing as a good hand
02:21:44.680
job right chat no yes if you agree i don't know about this conversation man what do you what there
02:21:50.080
might be a decent one out there there's got to be at least one that was good there's no such thing
02:21:53.060
no such thing he's got calluses his skin's all ripped up sandpaper yeah he's got a sandpaper hand
02:22:04.500
a woman's touch might hit a little nicer anyways all right all right moving on moving on um earmuffs to
02:22:12.440
the to the uh anyways um you said you think that men have become really lazy and dating
02:22:19.120
yes what do you mean what do you mean by that um i mean i'm paying a lot of the time
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oh uh one sub thank you everyone clap thank you i didn't even know we had that like
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that seems crazy that's a new one five dollars thank you for the subbies w i'm gonna have to
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streaming backpack i'm getting it set up are you gonna do like street interviews it's gonna be
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mad yeah can you give it to us so i can follow you after i've street interviews would go so hard
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and then you guys can like come on and stream with oh absolutely like just like i'm reading you every
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night baby i think she's the best person in the world oh wow that's offensive what's your
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orientation hello i'm right here i don't care you trying to shoot your shot with them i'm still
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maddie okay please she's bi-curious uh both our body counts i'll make you curious
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so yeah guys we are gonna prioritize uh those those streams just on twitch so uh maybe we'll i don't
02:24:21.560
know if we simulcast i think we do just twitch for is it is it gonna be like what days is it gonna
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be we're still figuring out the schedule but i i think what do you know i'm asking she's asking
02:24:31.340
shut your mouth but yeah i mean we're gonna try to do like super regular streams and like i roll
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walking around or like yeah well we kind of want to bring the show to the street that would be fun
02:24:42.400
like you do that would be that would be super fun yeah makes sense so entertaining god damn i gotta i
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gotta get on the street around here works no it's perfect sense men are being lazy tell us about that
02:24:52.560
like sling the bill you're super lazy you're paying for the bill or yes like outside of the sugar
02:24:57.320
daddy situations and like that one random like feeder guy um like i'm i'm paying you mean for
02:25:05.460
both yes you pay for the guy yes really i'm paying pay for your meal and walk out so how does that work
02:25:12.020
so is it the guy who's asking you out yeah like he's like hey let's go get dinner can i ask a question
02:25:17.940
i'm sorry if it comes off offensive how are you affording this because there's no income you moved
02:25:26.080
here from massachusetts right her her inheritance her parents owns a maple syrup conglomerate
02:25:33.240
she's from vermont vermont vermont she's a hustler what i don't understand is like why would you pay
02:25:40.940
for their meal as well like why don't you just pay for yours and walk out screw them you don't have to
02:25:45.040
pay for them usually because i like them she seems like i'm going out i'm too nice she seems yeah i mean
02:25:50.660
i mean if they're but if they're like are they even offering beforehand or like they're just like
02:25:54.960
being weird about it yeah so if they're not going to offer and they're going to be weird like okay
02:25:58.480
pay for your own stuff and be like okay pay for your own meal then the least that you can do is
02:26:02.180
offer i mean i'm totally fine paying for my own meal and all that but the least you can do is
02:26:05.920
offer it's not like that it's simple though because they guilt trip you like some of these guys
02:26:09.320
are you think you say no you're like i don't have any money that sucks to suck that's crazy
02:26:14.200
but it comes after like saying though they go on a date they have no money that's not your fault
02:26:18.740
you just don't eat a dick what's that no scrubs down by tlc you sit down and you like have your
02:26:23.760
meal like they give you the bill like i'm not gonna walk out and not pay like my waiters my
02:26:29.860
waitresses like the restaurant they can they can figure out how to pay the waiter i'm not trying to
02:26:33.920
be pro man but this is what happens to men every single day so like it's kind of a crazy discussion
02:26:39.500
that we're having rewind they expect me to pay no i agree i like when men pay for me but it is
02:26:45.860
kind of like the funny well no i'll pay for my own stuff but the i like inviting the person out to
02:26:50.020
the date whoever invites i agree yeah how are you affording this how this is a good question i don't
02:26:55.320
know why do you have money i think that's what i mean is because i'll just like none of us none of
02:27:00.580
us are narcs but i do want to know uh-oh she's a psyop i think that's the last check or wire that
02:27:07.640
came into your bank account like where was the source of that don't listen to you don't have
02:27:11.200
to they work for the irs they work for the ops believe me the irs get audited no but i think
02:27:17.460
that's what i mean because like even then like if i went on a first date with a guy i'd still pay my
02:27:20.720
own bills so where i'm coming from is like you should just pay your own stuff no no i'll just
02:27:24.840
pay my own things i'll pay for i don't need to split half i don't go on no i'm not splitting it my
02:27:28.800
mentality is different though you have like your own taps it's not weird sorry yeah if my mentality with
02:27:33.560
dates and i've told you guys this many times if i go on a date and they they want to pay the whole
02:27:39.100
bill i feel feel almost obligated to text back and that's why if they want to pay the whole bill i'd
02:27:43.760
be like no let me get at least a portion i'll pay for the whole like check but i i just the the idea
02:27:49.220
to me is like if they pay the whole bill i'll feel bad i'll feel obligated to like text them that's
02:27:53.620
what i mean oh yeah thank you so much i'm oh so sweet if he offers even though i don't like them
02:27:58.480
whole bill i'll be like well no let me get it yeah but if he's gonna sit there and be like
02:28:02.820
i have to go to the bathroom like fuck you pay your own bill was he like dying yeah i'll pay my
02:28:08.060
own bill like whatever like he didn't like what about the situationship are you guys going 50 50
02:28:13.380
he's no no situation ship no chance i really no i hope he's paying just because i think i think when
02:28:19.520
you're actually dating i think the dynamic when you're dating it's different because you do you
02:28:23.080
usually like with dating you do okay you hit it i hit it you hit it i hit it at least for me
02:28:27.300
like one at a time i agree i am not saying that i want to be paying for everything and i think that
02:28:34.320
i would like to stop doing that um i think you should yeah i think i should as well and don't
02:28:39.460
pay like oh like abby you think that men are being lazy and dating yes and this is why i find myself
02:28:46.620
like guilt tripped and manipulated into paying for literally everything just don't pay for their meal
02:28:51.000
dog just get my get your bill for your own meal like them what if you care about i'm gonna be honest
02:28:55.860
are you gonna like you you're you're literally saying that you you feel like men are being lazy
02:29:01.020
and dating but then you're also saying like what if i like them you don't like them he didn't pay for
02:29:05.200
your meal you gotta be your own meal leave come on back girl give your own meal and leave back up
02:29:10.060
it's not your man baby it sounds like you're willing to put up with it because you're making
02:29:13.660
don't put up with it i think so don't put up with it it depends on that's what she wants
02:29:19.760
she's paying the whole bill what does she need to put up with oh she doesn't need to but she is
02:29:26.140
i gotta i fixed it that's true what no but what what does she need to put up with i didn't say
02:29:31.620
she's talking about what should she not she's she's talking about how when she goes out to dates with
02:29:35.400
men and then at the end of the date you know she feels she has to pay the whole bill like her bill
02:29:41.000
and the man's meal kind of like but then but yeah no that's fine but then she's also saying like but
02:29:45.600
i'm super traditional i don't like that men aren't paying for my dinner wait did i miss the part where
02:29:49.640
she said she's super traditional that's what she said she said she wants men to pay for her things
02:29:53.340
oh hold on let me just come in here for just a sec you're super traditional
02:29:57.500
okay so let me okay i'll throw that out the window to be okay let me throw super traditional
02:30:03.660
out the window for the right let me throw super traditional out the window but she did say she would
02:30:09.720
prefer that men pay for meals because they're lazy and dating but if you're going out on dates with men
02:30:15.260
who aren't paying your meals why are you paying for their meals throw them out the window well it's
02:30:19.020
not intentional um besides maybe with like some specific people i'm seeing like repeatedly like i
02:30:27.340
don't go into a first date thinking like oh yeah like if they don't want to pay i'm gonna like put up
02:30:32.180
with it like it's just what are you gonna do like i am not the type of person to not pay if we sit down
02:30:37.000
if it's more like no it's just so awkward like or what if it's just burgers and you're like at the
02:30:42.000
window and you like order your burgers and they're like okay the bill is this i'm not gonna
02:30:45.820
like look at like the person serving us or like taking the bill and look at like the guy and be
02:30:50.980
like um okay like i guess we can't wait let's go into an actual example okay give us did that
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happen you were you were at a burger place i i hold on hold on hold on were you actually at a burger
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place and this actually happened um it probably has happened what do you what do you mean it
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probably has are you just how does it happen that often how are you just i really want to know how
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you're affording all of this i also have that question i really do my thing is is that it's like
02:31:22.400
if you want a man to pay for your dinner yeah why would you pay for his dinner at all i understand
02:31:27.100
that you you're saying you feel awkward and stuff but like you either want him to pay for you or not
02:31:31.040
i can't force someone to pay well hold on no you can't you can you can say i'm paying for my own
02:31:36.600
meal they'll get there and i say that like i offer i'm like hey why don't we go 50 50 but they guilt
02:31:42.800
trip you they say i don't have any money like there's always tell them to eat a dick what and
02:31:47.000
then you walk out no no no you pay for your own meal and tell them screw you i'm not paying for
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these white guys i think you don't really have to put up with something like this what kind of
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baby you gotta stick up for yourself you gotta stick up for yourself what's happening
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you're getting way too many questions everybody's talking let's do one at a time abigail is gonna
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ask you oh i want to know how you're getting money okay yeah people have been curious why don't you
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answer that okay um i don't know super like how to i just have it um yeah i just have a lot of money
02:32:17.200
in your bank what how'd you just come across a ton of money can you take me to dinner i might not pay
02:32:22.740
don't have any money yeah don't look at me i'm not saving you no we don't have to go into it
02:32:30.840
and remember the almost 30 year old we might kidnap her i seriously just feel like if you
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i seriously feel like you should just tell men no if you don't want to pay for their meals you need
02:32:42.640
to get to a point where you can tell people now can you walk me through this situation where here's
02:32:46.740
a problem put yourself in my shoes yes like it's going down you are sitting down you're sitting
02:32:52.280
down at supper you get the bill and they say so this is when i ordered can you put that on a
02:32:59.220
separate bill for me no that's what you would say to the yes i would because i'm paying for my own
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stuff us are like single like well no no even if i'm in a relationship anything like that i'll pay for
02:33:08.720
my own thing that i think the thing is is you need to get more comfortable telling people now
02:33:12.660
no you need to stop going on hinge dates with dudes you don't like and then being surprised when it
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doesn't work out it's like not a match from the beginning if you're hanging out you're hanging out
02:33:20.220
if you're on a date i don't think it's i don't think it's necessarily that i was gonna say there
02:33:23.740
seems to be a pattern of you going out with guys who don't pay so maybe i mean it's on her look for
02:33:30.200
a different guy on her i think you just need to get comfortable with telling people no i think
02:33:34.100
you'll get there eventually i'm just a little confused i mean okay so how old are the guys you're
02:33:38.060
typically dating like in their 20s in their 20s yeah and i'm assuming at least the way it typically
02:33:45.160
goes like they're asking you out correct um yes okay so you're matching with them on dating apps
02:33:51.920
yes of how many and how many times would you say that this has occurred where you've gone on a date
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and you paid the whole bill 50 of the time but no not percentage how many dates there's been so
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many brian i could not give you a number three oh for sure more than 10 um i don't know
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i don't know how long have you been dating i've been dating since i was like legal to do that
02:34:17.620
like i just okay legal wait wait let me read this law paladin stress fund baby obviously
02:34:25.060
she's picking dates the same way that men pick women she doesn't care about their money just like men
02:34:29.980
don't care about a woman's money well it's still i mean even if you're wealthy or not wealthy
02:34:34.900
typically people are gonna i'm not wealthy i i also wanted i also just feel like you seem like a sweet
02:34:40.340
girl and you kind of have a duty to you know put your you know protect yourself and whatever and if
02:34:45.340
you don't like the way you're being treated because you think you know men aren't treating you right
02:34:49.120
on date stuff you have a duty to tell them no i'm not paying for you on the date if you don't want
02:34:53.140
to no one's gonna advocate for you except yourself exactly i feel like maybe it's the way you're
02:34:57.020
presenting yourself to these guys yes yes i mean i i have pretty bad anxiety i have to say you're not
02:35:04.980
julie has terrible anxiety i've horrible anxiety i had panic attacks in the karaoke bar kind of i mean
02:35:09.940
as a guy i've never gone into a date especially if i asked the girl i've never gone into the date
02:35:17.260
ever expecting that she paid the whole bill perhaps there's you know perhaps it could at minimum be a
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split or i'm gonna just pay for the whole thing so it's odd to me that these guys are going like
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they're asking you on a date but they're not even going in prepared to at least pay their bill that's
02:35:34.700
really weird that's really weird that's what her point is but that's what she's saying that men are
02:35:41.600
getting lazy and dating that's her point we can even double down with this area and like how expensive
02:35:47.420
this area is in particular and things like that it's like it's santa barbara problem but even but
02:35:52.360
even no no that's that's what's weird about it i'm saying it's like well i mean people are definitely
02:35:57.100
struggling i mean even with all that you should be able to tell people like fuck no like you know i
02:36:02.060
earned this myself maybe the problem is trying to move out here even if you do like them they
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should respect you if they like you they'll respect you when you say no but i think the problem is like
02:36:11.260
from what you've said earlier is that you win on dates because you want a friend and like you're
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kind of filling time and like looking for a companion so i think you're probably just not
02:36:19.100
picking the kind of men who are paying for dates and that's no shade to you like i like hanging out
02:36:23.460
with people as well i think it's probably just the people that you're picking you should be a
02:36:27.740
little more selective i don't like go on like dates where you would like pay for something like
02:36:32.280
supper yeah with guys who i don't think i like very much that's like a walk okay can i ask a
02:36:36.620
question are you so you said this has happened like at least 10 times or so yeah probably okay
02:36:42.880
and are you going more so to like sit down restaurants sometimes and or sometimes it's like
02:36:48.280
go to the counter a second day have a burger you go to the counter and order
02:36:51.560
no first date but it's happening on second dates too you're still paying
02:36:59.720
well like on the first date i don't we don't we walk like we like it doesn't cost money like he has
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to get himself there okay so on okay so on first dates you don't go for like food or drinks or
02:37:10.420
anything okay so this is this is happening on second dates that's why are you propose hold on are you
02:37:16.380
proposing the walking date or are they me because i i don't so then but okay so if you're initiating
02:37:22.420
the first date are you not then initiating the second date i didn't initiate the date i just chose
02:37:27.280
the but you said men are lazy men are lazy because i go on dates with them and they don't pay
02:37:32.080
but that's never been the case for a first date because you only go on walking dates and you ask for
02:37:37.140
the walking dates so second dates you're asking for the second date or they're asking for this the
02:37:42.280
second date it depends like it depends on the it's not like the same every time so second dates that
02:37:49.560
they ask for you're encountering men that are not willing to pay yes the bill yes even though they're
02:37:56.520
asking for it correct okay and so are you offering to pay no i'm not offering i get put in a position
02:38:06.200
where i feel like i have to so give us an example give us three examples i feel like i have
02:38:10.880
okay well so the waiter comes yes and then puts okay uh hope you guys had a good meal
02:38:19.560
i'm the waiter what happens explain it to me i'll kind of like sit there and like i always will like
02:38:27.040
fuck around with my purse or my wallet just to like seem courteous yes exactly you want to see like
02:38:33.000
what's gonna happen here what's going to unfold and then at that point sometimes they really don't
02:38:39.440
pick up their wallet and they might be on their phone they might have gotten up to leave and then
02:38:44.840
i'm kind of like oh fuck like you get anxious and you don't think about it you're just like well
02:38:49.420
it's okay it's not that big of a deal it's only like 20 like there you go and it's just done you
02:38:55.300
want it off your hands i'm not going to be like confrontational yeah i just might not see them again
02:38:59.320
after that but like it's not one of those things where i'm going to be like oh you should pay or like
02:39:03.220
we need to do this what do you think about like bringing cash to your dates and you just kind of
02:39:07.480
yeah you also don't have to be you don't have to be confrontational but you also need to be
02:39:12.320
assertive if that's what you want like it's not even assertive it's like oh hey we're splitting this
02:39:17.900
well yeah that's what i'm saying just be like just saying like hey are we splitting this or or
02:39:22.800
what's going on here and then they say oh like i'm really tight on money right now like i can't do it
02:39:29.880
and then so then say pay for your own meal then how many times has that actually happened
02:39:34.240
has that happened more than one time yes it's happened listen i've been different guys different
02:39:39.460
guys how many different guys has a guy said the checks come oh i'm tight on money half the time
02:39:45.340
i go on a date which i have been on quite a few that happens that's also like if they're tight on
02:39:50.840
money and they can't pay for their own meal go wash dishes in the back baby you did it to yourself
02:39:53.900
you did it to yourself okay but what makes it this seems i this is i i believe you it just
02:40:01.000
sounds very no she makes a point lazy is like you can't even pay your own way i would say that's
02:40:08.300
what makes it lazy why are you going out for a lobster dinner if you can't pay for your lobster
02:40:12.120
dinner it's a 20 day the type of guy who's okay going on a 20 date i wouldn't expect him to pay
02:40:18.260
hold on hold on that's not true that's let's go nicolette i hold on that's not true i'm totally
02:40:22.780
fine with a 20 date i just i you need to pay your own way or let me know beforehand instead of me
02:40:28.440
being stuck there with a bill even mcdonald's isn't even 20 i'll fuck up mcdonald's on the first date
02:40:33.900
listen i'll get a 20 i'll pick you up in my car and i'll drive us to mcdonald's right now
02:40:39.020
i don't care i'll be your sugar but my question is like i just feel like you're describing the fact
02:40:47.000
that you had to pay as like the men are lazy but like for the multiple years years ago where men
02:40:52.660
were meant to pay were the women lazy that's silly that's silly i even want to scratch that
02:40:58.480
idea the lazy the how are they lazy as in they go to this dinner they they're there and you don't
02:41:03.920
even like present the idea of being like let's split the bill laziness would be like like i don't
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even know what laziness would be it seems like you're shy you're being taken advantage of work
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behind what's happening lack of communication hold on lol paladins donated two hundred dollars
02:41:21.600
if you run into one broke dude you ran into run into one broke dude if you only run into broke
02:41:28.120
dudes you are the problem she's picking dudes only on disappearance and riz i don't think that's
02:41:33.680
necessarily true i think she might just be shy do they speak english oh i'm shy yeah i'm really shy
02:41:38.460
do they speak english are they fluent in english yes okay well do you i'm really shy i mean you're
02:41:44.080
young and you're meeting even if you're not shy well even if you're not shy i'm here because i'm
02:41:49.260
shy coffee dates maybe just exclusively coffee dates or worst case scenario that can be your
02:41:54.600
just one sec guys lol paladins thank you let me just read this really quick uh john green okay how
02:41:59.320
many women do you think would have to be respected after before sex considering stds wait what that
02:42:04.440
doesn't make any sense what would their body count be before how many women do you think would have
02:42:07.740
to be respected after before sex that doesn't make any sense this is when we were talking about oh
02:42:12.260
this is a while it's a while ago but what does it mean 20 minutes ago john green by the way send it
02:42:16.980
through stream labs if you can i mean youtube's fine but youtube takes that big percentage so thank
02:42:22.960
you john green appreciate it man appreciate it i don't understand the question really though do you
02:42:26.760
guys get what he's asking if it's something about stds i do ask about like when's last time you got
02:42:31.880
stds sexual partners i always ask about that for you you should always respect them before sex
02:42:37.060
not after not after does that i'm kidding does that answer your question after you go get tested
02:42:46.160
still right i still do it right i have a feeling he's saying like would we really be considering
02:42:51.100
respecting a woman if we have to consider stds meaning she's had so many partners that like you
02:42:56.600
have to consider stds he's saying he's saying about like would we consider it only takes one
02:43:02.060
she does whatever you need to consider she's gonna do whatever mckenna does whatever she does
02:43:10.940
whatever that's kind of frisky there mckenna thank you all right uh wait so anyways going back to
02:43:16.280
this uh okay so i want to give you a couple strategies here okay first off you gotta just like
02:43:22.820
debts if at the end if the waiter brings the the bill i'm giving you game here right uh you gotta
02:43:29.820
just you can't be oh let me look through my purse try to do the whole like uh token oh you want should
02:43:35.640
you want me to get this no you gotta just sit there sit there and just fucking look at him yep
02:43:41.840
but then what if i'm a bitch like i don't want to be a bitch well this is your opportunity
02:43:46.560
would have no money wait oh wait here's another question any of these guys who made you pay on the
02:43:51.960
second date did you smash them oh don't tell me it ain't so damn good for them good for those guys
02:44:01.520
good for those guys alpha stand up oh let's go wait did you have carnal knowledge you gotta be
02:44:08.780
pick a different phrase carnal knowledge um s and uh p and the v
02:44:15.500
yeah so no it's fine um not all of them well if you're gonna reward them for bad behavior and not
02:44:23.380
do anything that's gangster son i think you need to have a much more clear line of communication
02:44:31.980
before they get a cell phone from the government okay they got an obama phone no i think you should
02:44:38.320
just have these conversations before you go out and it seems like you do because it's on the second
02:44:41.700
day but be like hey this is what i'm looking for if this is not what you're looking for wait are these
02:44:46.220
you said you date like only mexican guys were these like mexican guys sometimes yes i thought like
02:44:52.120
mexican guys were super traditional like more not from oxnare they are most of the time no but they're
02:44:57.260
more like traditional i was like mine do you like that's crazy yourself as having a lot of money
02:45:04.420
like do you say oh i'm just here i don't have a job i think she's actually an heiress to a
02:45:08.020
i'm just existing like i'm wearing like normal clothes like i'm i'm not even wealthy i'm just like
02:45:14.780
me like i think they do assume that though because they assume that because i'm like not in school i
02:45:19.480
don't work but i'm still existing and have been do they have and in santa barbara california yeah
02:45:25.040
literally yeah and i have like i don't have a beater car like they kind of do you have your own
02:45:30.280
place no i don't have my own place you have a roommate or housemate i have a housemate okay
02:45:34.980
detective mike hunt donated two hundred dollars oh yes they were brave and decent men he's a brave
02:45:43.940
and a decent man he's a pioneer these men are pioneering i gotta i gotta get some game from these
02:45:49.260
guys they're they're hold on the girl is paying for the date and they're still it's manipulation
02:45:56.320
do you want to manipulate people wait how are they manipulating yeah but at what cost like
02:46:01.320
these guys are a guilt trip like if someone's telling you i'm dirt poor like i really i really
02:46:08.500
like you like you're so beautiful like i really want to see you but like i just really don't have
02:46:12.700
the money like this week maybe next week like what are you gonna do you're getting finessed
02:46:17.160
you're getting finessed i'm sorry if you're you you're going out to dinner with him you shouldn't
02:46:22.780
have seen him in the first place he can't even pay for his own portion of the meal oh if that's the
02:46:27.400
case if he's like oh i'm so i'll do it next week i'm so sorry i'm so broke then he should have waited
02:46:31.840
till next week this is crazy this is a crazy conversation wait okay hold on well i don't think
02:46:37.000
there's anything necessarily wrong first off i think they're lying they probably do have money
02:46:40.940
but they're they're probably just using you secondly send a venmo request secondly i think that
02:46:46.820
sorry interrupted i feel like men just think that they look bad to women if they don't pay so like
02:46:54.640
they have to kind of find a way to get them to pay so it's not necessarily manipulation in my eyes
02:46:59.060
but it's like find a way to get kind of like they want they have the money maybe they're just lying
02:47:03.540
about it because they're like hey like i don't know how to tell you that like i'm not i'm not
02:47:07.120
gonna pay for the date like i think you should pay yeah i just like men get looked down on if they
02:47:13.960
don't pay for it so they kind of have to make an excuse so in addition to splitting the bill or even
02:47:18.360
paying for the whole bill you said driving so you'll pick these dudes up on occasion and then you'll
02:47:23.420
also you put in more time i guess um ah man it sucks i'm not happy about it and i hear like
02:47:30.980
the table saying that like yeah that's that's the consensus is like this is your fault like
02:47:35.860
no i don't think it's your fault no i don't think it's your fault at all i think oh whoa i feel like
02:47:41.660
we're missing no i think you're young and i think there's a lack of like communication and a lack of
02:47:46.320
like boundaries that you're comfortable with i don't mean it in a way that it's your fault i'm
02:47:51.500
just trying to be like oh you should just be more careful you don't have to allow yourself to
02:47:56.180
continue yes going through this and you deserve a lot better i do want to say when i said you
02:48:00.680
when i said you might have been shy earlier you seemed like you were a little like upset by me
02:48:04.140
saying that and i i didn't mean that it was just me like trying to engage with like what exactly is
02:48:08.580
going on like i was just trying to figure it out like if you're not shy you're not shy city boys but
02:48:14.660
city boys summer i i do think you should probably you know vet these men out before you go on dates
02:48:21.820
with them if you don't like the dates that you're going on if you don't like that you're picking
02:48:26.000
them up you don't like that they're that you're paying for their their dinner blah blah blah you
02:48:30.400
should say tell them before you go on the date i'm not paying for your dinner i'm not picking you up
02:48:34.220
it seems like you're really uncomfortable hold on hold on hold on hold on this is crazy though
02:48:39.260
because like i've never encountered a girl who's like asked me like hey do you have enough to at
02:48:45.380
least pay for your meal like the fact like she's admirable really the girl like it's a bold
02:48:53.120
i can't at least as a girl like the the minimum should be you're at least gonna you're gonna pay
02:48:58.060
your thing he's gonna pay his that's a given like that's that's a fair minimum that's a given a lot
02:49:03.140
of guys are just gonna pay for the whole meal but the fact that they're the guy as a male you're
02:49:08.800
going on a date and not at least expecting to pay for your own shit that's weird like i've never
02:49:14.600
i mean you should just at the end of the day that's weird you should i have enough next week
02:49:18.320
that's like no at the end of the day you just shouldn't pay for their stuff if you don't want
02:49:22.720
that would be weird to do with a friend like if you're meeting up with a friend for food
02:49:26.240
and like i pay for their shit all the time with that oh no but if you don't bring it like
02:49:31.680
you should always have your own money that's oh no you should always have your own money but you
02:49:35.920
should also be ready to tell people no at the same time or beta bucks be the alpha fucks that gets
02:49:41.380
the woman to buy you dinner if you're buying her food she sees you as a provider trend harder
02:49:46.240
i only buy dinner for brian oh yeah dude he's eating good tonight
02:49:50.780
god does that mean he's an af call me brian i want a free meal okay paladin thank you bro
02:49:58.340
identify as brian i identify as brian lol paladins thank you bro i'm a paladin actually i'm a level 11
02:50:04.700
blood elf paladin you're a level 11 i just started last night i renewed my wow subscription i'm busy for
02:50:09.500
the next couple months good to know thank you for sharing yeah that's crazy man you got you got
02:50:15.280
to talk to a doctor about that or something i think no i think you're just a sweet girl and you enjoy
02:50:20.860
the company but i think you should you need you should set more boundaries you should set more
02:50:24.600
boundaries definitely walking all over you what yeah besides just the fact that you like mexican
02:50:29.100
guys what else is your type guys who don't like blasted in tats guys who have no money no that
02:50:34.320
doesn't necessarily matter um i like the hair like curly hair like physically like that's more
02:50:41.540
important than what do they call that haircut the curly hair haircut doesn't matter just like i thought
02:50:47.180
it was called the edgar he said no i don't think she's referring to that what's the age range of the
02:50:52.380
guys they're like all all over like anywhere from like 19 to like 30 what's the oldest guy who made
02:51:00.100
you pay that's tough it's like 35 28 that's crazy that's some that's some game right there yeah
02:51:09.480
i gotta meet these dudes these guys are some fucking legends game that's just like taking
02:51:14.020
advantage of someone who hasn't yet kind of game hasn't yet stepped into her own boundaries it's
02:51:19.200
kind of game would we ever say hold on would we ever say any of this shit in the reverse though
02:51:25.000
because hell yeah that's game as fuck no men are overwhelmingly paying for first dates paying the
02:51:30.060
whole bill um if i get a 28 year old man to pay for my meal that's game as hell it's just me
02:51:34.020
that's normal that's you think it's game to get a guy to pay for your dinner no because i usually pay
02:51:38.620
for my own shit oh yeah but it's not game you think it's game to make a guy pay for your dinner listen
02:51:43.100
i got games that's like the default no no that's the default no no i have game oh yeah okay
02:51:49.320
yeah yeah i think it's the default if that's what are you saying i have no game no you have you have
02:51:54.760
he might have a little more game than you just no actually you know what though just a little more
02:52:00.640
i i actually don't i think she does have game paying for men's meals explain like the naivete
02:52:06.620
thing that's game yeah that is game i mean like that's her brain that's game naivete no no but
02:52:12.920
hold on because if the game went hard enough her meal would be paid for if the game went if the
02:52:18.620
game went hard enough her meal would be paid for she's just not playing the game right yeah
02:52:22.840
you're playing the game but you gotta just tell you you gotta play it the other way and get your
02:52:27.240
that's also called manipulation just for reference you should do that just for reference i think you
02:52:32.600
should do that i don't think this is like me being naive i think that i like can see what's going
02:52:37.320
on i know that they're manipulating me i know that they probably have the money and i just like
02:52:41.800
feel fucking bad and it works like i'm sorry like i can be manipulated like it you're just too sweet
02:52:46.940
you're honestly just too sweet you really gotta tell people it's such a strange coincidence though
02:52:51.280
that you've ran into so many men that won't even pay their bill
02:52:55.220
i've never gone into a date like that i asked for expecting her to pay for that it's just different
02:53:09.540
people that's like next level i props to them what do you think about women inviting you on a date
02:53:15.100
do you expect she she would pay the whole bill if she invites you on a date what do you think about
02:53:19.360
that at least half huh or at least half i mean i'd go in like yeah probably like half or if she
02:53:24.100
wants to pay for it fine but i'd be prepared to at least pay half but if she asked me out and she's
02:53:28.720
like you pay i'd be like oh okay well yeah that's that's actually you know what i probably still
02:53:33.440
would bet because you'd be like dang are you easily manipulated too i mean it's a 10 20 meal
02:53:38.840
i don't know where are you going damn what the hell in and out in and out we had we had arby's the
02:53:45.820
other day it was kind of hit it was expensive 15 arby's was expensive but i mean this brings up like
02:53:50.340
what kind of first date etiquette like maybe go out for coffee or like tea instead of like a steak
02:53:54.480
dinner at you know what this is my this is my soft guy era drizzle drizzle yeah actually girls
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girls should pay for the first date what i agree next time for all first dates soft guy summer i
02:54:07.460
don't know i think it depends on the kind of relationship that you want i think it depends
02:54:11.080
on the kind of relationship that you want you're looking for for sure if you're looking for like
02:54:14.460
a relationship like that's super traditional where you want a man to provide or whatever the
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hell it makes sense that he would pay on the first date if you are liberal and you don't give a
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fuck okay pay on the first date then yeah so men are lazy though no no no she said that in any
02:54:26.920
other ways that was the is it just like paying for the date thing is that's how they're lazy
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is it also like sex too like they only want you on top
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tmi that lapsed in it from below dial nothing nothing i didn't say nothing i didn't say god damn
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why is it okay ladies uh what's happening hey yo ladies uh how's your day going
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is that it though is that i mean i don't know we have nothing to add guys are lazy i guess
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no i want to know like i feel like it's easy for you guys to say like if you were in that position
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this is what you would do but it doesn't sound like many of you guys have been in the position
02:55:08.040
where you have felt like you had to pay regularly on dates so it's like oh yeah like you should just
02:55:12.860
say like fuck off but like no what would you actually say i don't think you need to say fuck off
02:55:17.180
some people really do have the confidence you don't need to get aggressive you don't need to
02:55:21.780
get aggressive and fight them you just say i'm paying for my own meal throw hands you should be
02:55:25.880
like wait what's that thing from borat oh it's like my wife you'll never get this yeah you'll never
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get this you know what you're not gonna pay you always wait if you do the borat voice guaranteed
02:55:37.640
winning with a statement i i would never say fuck off i would say at least let's split like even if
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they ordered more than me i would be like okay you can only say like oh sorry i only have enough
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for mine like you can split the bill you can do that too yeah also too to answer your question i've
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been on sorry go ahead i've been on a lot of first dates and i've never paid so i don't know like
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wait let's go let's go like you get the whole thing you would never get this
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go ahead go ahead i no just do your no go ahead just do your it's not that we've never been in
02:56:13.240
that position before it's that we understand the position that you're in and i i i hope that you
02:56:18.580
will get to a point where you can tell people no i want you to get to a point where you can tell
02:56:22.520
people no i'm not i have a few things because it seems like you don't want to pay for it you don't
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like it do you like paying for their meal play it nick oh so then so then i
02:56:31.100
i don't want i'm not paying for your stuff just my sister she showed her vagina to
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my brother below and say you will never get this you will never get this
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you can stop it i love borat god damn i feel like we're not getting the whole story on this
02:56:54.860
you know what i mean oh i'm sorry i keep playing with this clip god damn it stop it i have my hands
02:57:00.240
i need adhd yeah she needs adhd i need the ddd what the
02:57:06.920
anyways oh i will say though like is the audio we're trying sorry sorry uh okay anyways so men
02:57:18.080
are lazy though men are lazy they're not putting in enough effort yes well i think they're putting
02:57:24.300
in a lot of effort to get you to pay every time i feel like there's a group chat like that seems
02:57:29.500
weird like one after another that seems odd anyways we're gonna move on we've been talking
02:57:34.120
about this for a little too long i want to come back kill of cereal i don't know if he's still in
02:57:37.720
the chat he was he asked about the most embarrassing date was that what he asked from you
02:57:42.980
no i think it was it was from you wasn't it for the whole panel no he said brian what's yours
02:57:48.040
yeah what's yours oh wait i thought you asked the whole panel no you go with you out of frame
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oh sorry sorry i try to tell us yours it's hold on let me look at what he actually wrote hold on
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a sec guys it's probably about you probably so you could just skip it and then ha ha brian he says
02:58:06.340
what's up ladies he says what's up ladies and brian question what is the most embarrassing thing you
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can remember doing or happening to you on any dates i don't think i've had anything too embarrassing
02:58:18.380
to be honest one time i was on the first date with this girl barely spoke english japanese chick
02:58:24.440
we're at this like dive bar super dark and i accidentally spill wine all over her oh no
02:58:33.080
nothing too embarrassing toughie unfortunately i did not that did you pay for the wine yeah i paid
02:58:40.140
i was super apologetic it was an accident i just like i don't know the couple's on the table and i was
02:58:45.320
doing your moves you're showing her some moves fucking this spilled over fucking red or white
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one red one oh you gotta pay for her outfit too i said sorry and then uh can you pay for my wine
02:59:01.840
what about you most embarrassing thing i mean i've only been on two first dates of my life so how
02:59:08.360
about okay hanging out with a guy most embarrassing thing any guy michelle 92 donated 200
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good for them these guys are fucking legends trucker here met my fiancee six years ago and engaged
02:59:21.580
for almost a year paid for 99 of our meals even if money is a bit tight she rarely pays they gots to do
02:59:30.460
better i'm confused it's a w when a girl well i'm confused because your your your donators are saying
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that they pay for a meal but they're also saying you know women are you know greedy gold diggers and
02:59:42.880
disgusting well i agree with the person i don't know what's going on you paying for our meals do
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you do you hate that you pay for our meals both oh well i don't know i don't know who said it but
02:59:52.380
somebody said if you're looking more for traditional then it makes more sense but i personally think even
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if you're looking for if you're looking for traditional i feel like the woman should pay and the
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only reason why i say that is because at the end of the day we're looking for providers so how do we
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prove that we're capable of having them as no they prove that so we would like they prove that
03:00:10.180
they're a provider by paying for the meal they prove they can provide how would we prove that
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we're worthy of having them being a good person yeah just it's it's a very first thing being a
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sweet woman being being enjoyable being a put-together woman not someone that can raise
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your children dollars babe no no burger women receive first like it's the guy that should be taking
03:00:33.320
initiative and then you show because we have to bear your child hello maybe that part most terrible
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argument for why it's the best argument it's such a good argument all the men who've ever paid for
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a first date for you i've never how many children yeah not me baby you're not gonna get me okay fine
03:00:51.380
you've dated men right yeah i was in relationships you've hooked up with men right no i haven't you've
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well i was like yeah well i was like in high school these girls have never dated anybody but
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they have like a body count of 20 my body is actually 87 i dated one guy for four years and
03:01:09.280
i had a little bit okay no no i guess i was like i was in high school and it wasn't like serious like
03:01:14.300
i was just like yeah but when i use the word date it's not like you you're both he's in a tuxedo
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you're in a super nice dress no no me neither a couple times no no no i had i had two real
03:01:25.540
boyfriends like real date and then other than that it was just like fucking hookups like it
03:01:29.680
didn't mean anything that was before i got into relationships did they take you out no i never
03:01:34.700
went on a date or anything okay no i was like 17 i was 17 i didn't know what it meant to like
03:01:39.980
date another human being but like this whole argument of well i birth children therefore you
03:01:44.680
should pay well hold on birthing children is really fucks you up it fucks your body up it fucks
03:01:49.320
your mind up it destroys your career so there are girls i would say probably you have to give
03:01:55.220
a lot to have a kid a lot of girls will go on dozens if not over a hundred dates before they
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meet the guy who will finally give them a child sure so what do you say to all those men that she
03:02:05.860
did not get pregnant for the justification for you having to hold on stop interrupting the justification
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for you having to pay for the first date is because potentially one day you might get me
03:02:16.740
pregnant but none of them got her pregnant i don't think it's justification for the very
03:02:20.800
first date you made men should pay for dates because women get pregnant you made that argument
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well i'm just here i'm just a girl the order is different like men have to kind of take the
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initiative and then yeah i feel like you should take the initiative what he gets in the end is like
03:02:37.260
him kind of feeling out anyways most embarrassing date go ahead damn um again i don't really have any
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embarrassing dates i guess okay okay hold on most embarrassing moment with uh a man can we like
03:02:49.800
come back to me and i think about it um i think like just like getting my period um while having
03:02:57.020
sex and then queefing blood everywhere watch yeah no that happens to the best of us
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that's a fucking disgusting the best of us bro you didn't have to go there i really didn't happen
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tmi damn son okay your honesty is i wanted to know i told you yeah maybe shit okay hey look you know
03:03:18.120
you just hit it i think the best strategy as a guy you just gotta ignore that shit
03:03:23.300
it's hard to respect that just i respect just you know what never mind keep hitting because
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she's gonna feel bad no for the queef if she queefs you have to just ignore it because there's
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blood splattering no well there's queef and the blood thing that's different but that was
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the blood you wouldn't keep i try to avoid i'm celibate
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that's a band that's our band name that's a bannable offense blood queef what was our other
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bad band name natalie's gonna be the lead singer no i think she's gonna be the lead singer
03:03:57.840
she's gonna be the lead queefist i'm the blood queefer oh fuck the lead queefist that's gonna be
03:04:02.820
the we're gonna put a mic are we gonna do an opera right now
03:04:06.040
it's like a organ it's just all these women someone's got the keys put a trumpet in there
03:04:12.980
put a flute put those deep notes this one time at band camp this one time at band camp i need a
03:04:20.440
noise for one time at band camp now i want to watch it stuck a flute in my pussy okay what's that
03:04:25.220
show called it's american no no not american pie what is it called um it's probably like trying to
03:04:32.500
think about it my ex-boyfriend's brother walked in i thought that was really embarrassing
03:04:36.700
anyways moving on what about you nicolette most embarrassing situation with the guy um so it's
03:04:46.740
more embarrassing on his part we went on a really nice date took me to this like expensive sushi
03:04:53.780
restaurant la the date went really well he ordered for me which i thought was really cool yeah um he
03:04:59.820
paid obviously and then we go back to his house we're just like sitting there watching music
03:05:05.380
videos i'm like okay like i want to get laid so i'm like oh um like show me your bedroom wait you
03:05:11.500
wanted to get laid yeah okay of course i'm sure you did too but i had to like initiate because he
03:05:16.160
wasn't he's being a pussy yeah so we're like trying to hook up and it's like his dick isn't getting hard
03:05:23.380
and that's never happened to me before so i was just like i didn't say anything about it i was just
03:05:28.580
like we can just cuddle and he was like okay so we cuddle then we start making out you know start
03:05:35.200
up again and i like told him like put on a condom because i'm not gonna like fuck him raw so he's
03:05:43.740
just like trying to get hard it's not working and then i'm like in doggy and i just feel him like
03:05:50.140
sitting there waiting no i just feel him like i don't know playing around back there trying to
03:05:54.460
figure it out so i like look back and there's no condom on his penis so i freak out and i'm like
03:06:02.420
where he didn't get in me because he was just like soft you know but like still i'm gonna freak out
03:06:07.180
because what the hell are you doing and i'm like where's the condom and we're in the middle of the
03:06:11.980
bed it's like a big bed and it's like on the floor behind you know so he's like oh it must have
03:06:19.280
fallen off and i'm like freaking out and then i start making fun of like his age he was older he's
03:06:25.100
like 42 so i'm like does this happen to you often you can't get hard um you're old this hasn't happened
03:06:31.640
to me before blah blah blah so i was just like being uh really mean but i wouldn't have done that if he
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hadn't tried to fuck me without a condom because remember i didn't bring up the soft dick issue right
03:06:44.360
away it was kind of a little more dark than i was hoping well anyway anyway so i'm like a technically
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no anyway so i'm a bitch to him i leave his house and then i felt so bad how um i was like bullying him
03:06:58.660
you went back to fuck him no okay i sent him flowers to his house oh this guy's not paying for dates
03:07:07.300
getting flowers he paid for the date but yeah so that was like embarrassing for him okay
03:07:14.980
um i call this the rumble stick story so hold on everyone because by the way can we try to be brief
03:07:22.920
with the yeah so okay so i was with my ex of five years and in the middle of sex or whatever you know
03:07:30.460
he's doing his thing he stops kind of you know he pulls back but he's not all the way out
03:07:34.880
farts huge fart i swear to god i felt a rumble through his dick into me the whole thing it's a
03:07:43.140
rumble stick story it was awful why are these all six stories yeah i know i'm the only one who gave a
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wholesome there's no i'm from only fans would you expect a wholesome i don't know maybe that's great
03:07:54.320
no i would never anyways it was awful it was embarrassing i couldn't stop laughing i hated every
03:07:59.800
second of it but we made it through okay the question was what is the most embarrassing thing you
03:08:03.900
can remember doing or happening to you on any date i've never been on a date i've never been on a date
03:08:08.600
but it could be like a date could could that was our day involve like you guys hanging out yeah we
03:08:15.020
hung out all right all right intimacy you d jen okay we hung out all right what about you i don't
03:08:20.560
have any i don't have any embarrassing date stories okay mine's gonna be pretty lame compared to these
03:08:25.260
uh i went on a date not that long ago and i left kind of early because it wasn't super enjoyable
03:08:29.160
and i was in my uber home and i left my phone at his house so i had to like knock at his door after
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like hey i left my phone there that was kind of awkward but it's not not a period queef unfortunately
03:08:41.580
i don't have one i don't have one either um i don't well the guy who that is the contender
03:08:50.820
but something i did i don't i don't drink or do drugs i've only ever smoked weed once in my life and
03:08:56.460
i was it was this guy who had just started dating and i was like trying to be cool so i i took a hit
03:09:01.740
i don't even know like what it was and like five minutes later i just fell down and passed out
03:09:08.500
for like two hours and apparently i like came to and i was like no we are going to dinner and went to
03:09:16.280
dinner and it's funny because i don't eat like anything that's fried or like seed oil stuff and then
03:09:21.180
ate a bunch of fried gator apparently and i don't really remember it damn crazy girl madison
03:09:28.480
come on you got you got stories there's gotta be one come on one time in tijuana
03:09:35.800
tijuana this one i said the most insane thing you could say a little something
03:09:40.880
there's more than one tijuana story when we went oh you and him oh right hold on i took brian to
03:09:54.160
tijuana okay never happened that's crazy all right that sounds amazing anyways uh mckenna i really want
03:10:03.220
to know how vermont girl makes money why is it such a secret what kind of car do you drive because you
03:10:07.160
say you pick up the guys what kind of car do you drive um it's a mercedes suv i have so many
03:10:13.260
what's the msrp what car does everyone drive msrp um i i will say i bought mine lightly used so it
03:10:22.480
wasn't like how many what year uh 2021 oh okay used so like 60k um i think like brand new they go for
03:10:32.380
like 55 maybe 50 i don't know so used it was what i'm not gonna say oh can i ask how many
03:10:40.140
horsepower is that how many miles were on it a few okay kelly blue book that shit 2021 uh 2021
03:10:47.720
mercedes suv gla how do you make wait you just i think she's manipulating all of us i just want to
03:10:54.300
know how many horsepower it is wait wait i just want to know how many horsepower it is it's not like
03:10:59.340
super fast it's not how many horsepower it's just like okay you answer every question except for how
03:11:07.280
do you make money somehow like all of her answers leave me with more questions yeah quick me yeah
03:11:14.560
okay sorry i actually understand the point of view of this girl she has my sympathy it's hard to show up
03:11:19.200
to a date in a porsche and then not be willing to pay for a hamburger for sure for sure yeah you sell
03:11:27.680
drugs i don't sell or do drugs i'm sober to sell any illicit black market shit i'm getting a narc on
03:11:37.380
herself that's so true okay uh good talk uh let's see we have a couple chats here we'll get to really
03:11:43.100
quick mckenna does whatever did i miss it how does charming fork make her money i totally want to know
03:11:48.560
charming thank you mckenna does whatever she does the whatever podcast i guess you gotta dm the
03:11:56.420
instagram page if you want to be on the whatever okay whatever how does vermont girl make her damn
03:12:01.660
money mckenna is really invested we all are in how you make your money mckenna how do you make your
03:12:07.520
by the way nick on the split can you change it to black sorry but the cushion oh my bad uh just go
03:12:17.020
ahead do you want to answer the question click on color source me answer yeah you can talk and then
03:12:23.760
answer what question perfect um if you want to answer how you make your money that's what mckenna's
03:12:29.640
asking um i like make a little money but i mostly just have money you got stocks i have some yeah gme
03:12:38.740
she has bitcoin actually do you have any crypto just a little she started bitcoin you got some
03:12:46.260
i don't really fully trust it but what do you got doge are you a doge into the doge no she but you
03:12:54.680
know ethereum bitcoin a little bit a little bit i told you bitcoin i don't know right kind of
03:13:01.980
wait when you asked the msrp she said i don't know i didn't buy it who bought it no i bought it
03:13:07.660
with my money um i meant like i i didn't get to finish i didn't buy it brand new so i don't know
03:13:12.320
what the like msrp for like a brand new version of my car i mean it's everyone's asking how she got
03:13:18.860
her money i mean uh not to be like flippant about it but like your parents passed away when you were
03:13:23.700
young i don't know what kind of estate they left to you but i was i would assume there was some degree
03:13:28.040
of inheritance is that fair to assume um some but like i will be like so like blunt and so
03:13:34.780
straightforward like i grew up poor as fuck like we were in poverty like constantly like my dad left
03:13:40.820
me nothing he died with like a shit ton of like credit card debt so your dad left you nothing
03:13:45.180
absolutely nothing except a bunch of shitty clothes what about mom um mom she had like a life insurance
03:13:51.720
policy which is like a smidgen so you're not helping your case i know i don't know so it wasn't your
03:13:57.560
parents you know how you make your money you know how you make your money you're just not saying it
03:14:02.200
at least say that say i know how i make my money i'm just not saying it well like honestly i don't
03:14:07.860
because i feel like it's just in there she's just so land funds your life where did it come from
03:14:12.760
i also do that like it's just in my account like i don't know it just shows up i know that i invest
03:14:18.960
a little here and there like sometimes i do like you said you said you grew up poor your father left
03:14:24.760
you with nothing your mother had that life insurance policy that could have i don't know
03:14:30.060
i'm not familiar with life insurance how much it would pay out in this sort of situation my mom but
03:14:35.740
you said it wasn't a lot no well you haven't i guess that's subjective i guess that's subjective
03:14:42.520
i'm assuming you paid at least 40 000 for that uh mercedes around there right
03:14:49.260
it's a lot of money wait are you getting this money she lives in santa barbara which is one of
03:14:59.300
the highest cost of living cities a hundred percent uh in the in the united states what bank is this
03:15:06.140
that it just shows up because it's a random like rogue bank in montana because i used to live in
03:15:11.060
montana huh and money just shows she's a mystery you're lord so a man funds her life she hasn't
03:15:17.580
said no so i know are you a assassin obviously i'm an assassin yeah that's me for sure for sure
03:15:29.960
so you always what other options aren't you what do you guys think chat maybe she had a really good
03:15:38.140
job before she stopped working it could have been in there from no she she talked about her
03:15:42.260
past job yeah she's too young to have gotten into bitcoin oh yeah what no i mean look she could have
03:15:48.780
been like one of these like 11 year olds or some shit nfts she made so nobody nobody made money on
03:15:56.400
nfts didn't that like eight year old make weird money they're all saying escort sugar baby s have you
03:16:01.980
done escorting no that's what every girl she's paying for the dates yeah it's just
03:16:08.120
it's not adding up it doesn't add up to me either but i'm glad i'm happy yeah but you would
03:16:14.080
know your own yeah circumstances i swear i don't like i know i know how money gets into my bank she
03:16:20.240
just has somebody else's credit card i would like to not know where all this money came from
03:16:24.520
she stole it whatever she's got it now i just i have more questions each time we ask her
03:16:37.520
she answers it's a mystery boys um can you can you read this one you want me to read it yeah um okay
03:16:47.220
they say sounds like life insurance policy awarded to trust trust managed by bank she magically receives
03:16:55.060
this dispersion yeah i can read um yeah i mean that's part of it what's the other part part of
03:17:04.640
it like all sorts of things like i don't know what do you do like odd jobs here and there i do okay
03:17:11.640
odd jobs okay so somewhat of a all right we're not we won't press her too much uh we were going oh
03:17:17.680
you're embarrassing thing did you embarrassing thing oh it was you asked to skip right well yeah
03:17:24.660
i mean yeah i guess like a family member walking in that's oh okay it's not that embarrassing yeah
03:17:30.240
that's good good to know it's not all right let's get back to the pre-show notes here uh let's see
03:17:35.600
we're gonna go to back to nikki you said hookup culture is a lie we've been fed are you going from
03:17:43.320
like our dms from a year ago yeah your pre-show notes oh okay yeah you said you dated a guy from
03:17:49.020
an old nickelodeon show but he ends up being a huge racist what's the story though i told that the last
03:17:55.420
time i was on yeah it was 10 second story then i guess yeah it was just like i thought it was a
03:18:01.220
regular guy i thought he was gonna be really cool uh we went out and like we go back uh we're driving
03:18:07.100
back and he's like so anyway i think certain race of people aren't as smart because they are certain
03:18:13.280
race and i just went is this a joke is this a real thing that's great and i was like oh this is he
03:18:19.660
probably just has really weird off-the-wall humor i guess and then he doubled down and just kind of kept
03:18:26.400
going and i was like you know what you can just i'm gonna go it was just the most awkward experience
03:18:32.240
of my life that he was not kidding and i was like wow ruin that show for me 90s nick or y2k
03:18:38.480
y2k 90s nick all right is that like all that yeah you said slightly rational deal deal breakers that
03:18:47.480
shouldn't be deal breakers but totally are mine is anyone who likes country music immediate no
03:18:51.740
i still don't like country music ironically enough law paladins looking forward to the
03:18:57.840
caleb hammer whatever podcast collaboration taquitos taquitos taquitos who is caleb hammer
03:19:03.900
doesn't he do the like the audits on your bank account i don't know i don't know who that is
03:19:09.640
a guy from texas who like goes through your bank statements oh so he's gonna audit her okay
03:19:13.640
sounds good uh we'll we'll get her back on the show with caleb i guess uh anyways and then
03:19:21.100
you said red pill culture is also bullshit what do you mean so kind of like the people in the chat
03:19:27.300
saying like oh these guys are legends like they're getting girls to pay for dates like is that really
03:19:32.460
the kind of person you want to be like tricking people into paying for wait how's it tricking
03:19:36.760
people i mean well at least in abby's case the whole like oh i'm sorry like i don't have money
03:19:43.260
and she's thinking they probably do and then some people are like what a legend like odd thing to
03:19:48.600
idolize in my opinion my question i is it more red pill culture or uh more like blue pill culture
03:19:57.240
with that point which one is which which one's which red is what blue is what conservative right
03:20:03.680
leaning so like isn't it isn't it more like uh democratic left leaning to be like having um women
03:20:10.840
pay for dates i thought red pill was like the like all women are 304 yes you just that is red pill but
03:20:17.280
okay but if if women are paying for dates dates that's usually under the category of like oh it's
03:20:24.160
a more like a liberal point of view or like left leaning because it's like usually men are the
03:20:29.440
providers of like their red pill point of view i would say just the the red pill culture that has
03:20:34.460
anything to do with like treat women however you want and they're not worth any type of respect like
03:20:40.740
that's what i think of when i think of red pill culture um i feel like that is not conducive to a
03:20:46.520
good society it kind of pits people against each other and since men are in my opinion the initiators
03:20:51.440
and the providers the leaders really uh women are kind of more in the responding section of that
03:20:59.280
so it's hard for women to stand up and be like no we don't really want to do this because it's more
03:21:04.440
natural for us to lead and follow so okay yeah i would say that you also said men aren't the enemy
03:21:10.220
it's women acting out of line what do you mean by that wild take no that's what you said oh i know
03:21:16.960
what i said um i was thinking more of like the the really crazy liberal feminists that are like
03:21:23.060
kind of parading around like proud that they're getting abortions like proud of just like sleeping
03:21:28.580
around and like it makes me so sad and it just makes me wonder like are you truly happy living
03:21:35.420
this way or have you been so hurt by your past experiences that you're trying to use anything
03:21:40.040
to cope and kind of make it empowering so yeah i feel like there's been a lot of uh do you think
03:21:47.660
there are men who have you know you know done that hurt to women who are you know proud of the hurt that
03:21:53.940
they've done to that there's yeah it's on both sides anyone who's proud to hurt people is reactionary
03:21:59.400
on women's side or do you think what is it on women's side i think it's hard to make that kind
03:22:04.460
of generalization because there's there's made a huge generalization generalization you said women
03:22:09.460
the women out of line are bad for society and now you don't want to make a generalization make a
03:22:13.160
generalization you already did i think anyone acting out of out of line like anyone proud to
03:22:19.000
manipulate people men or women is is wrong so why are you focusing specifically on the woman
03:22:25.440
though to do it i can sorry i'm a little i got a little tired in that minute there but i'm here
03:22:32.100
i'm here now i'm fighting someone bring chick-fil-a it smells like it smells like chick-fil-a
03:22:38.020
it smells like chick-fil-a uh no but i'm saying you brought up uh you brought up something against
03:22:42.460
women but you didn't say anything like oh but men do this as well you didn't say you know i can bring up
03:22:47.580
i can bring up context as well a little bit but it's fine that's that's the whole point of this
03:22:51.380
questions i just want to know you know what actually prompts a lot of these questions i
03:22:56.320
don't know if we can talk about these topics so i'll let brian they probably but what's
03:23:00.960
let it out give me a little details i'll see if it's fine like i don't know if i want to go here
03:23:09.900
supportive of people who aren't actually women saying that they're now women oh like trans yeah
03:23:19.100
i don't know if that's allowed it's pride month let's let's just drop the subject yeah
03:23:22.740
well oh i thought you said get into it i got excited let's drop it let's get into this as in
03:23:28.160
like let's like i feel like that's not advocating for women well i mean yeah but we were talking we
03:23:35.200
were talking about trans people we were talking about men talk about certain subjects during
03:23:39.440
pride month on your podcast and that's also not great either like you can't even not supporting
03:23:44.380
certain viewpoints and it's yeah is that yeah which is very adamant about supporting certain
03:23:48.740
viewpoints so i feel like you should drop i also want to say that i wasn't talking about trans
03:23:52.020
people i was talking about men specifically what do you want to talk about well you dropped you
03:23:56.200
dropped something about women specifically so i was like so why not bring up anything that men have
03:24:00.980
done why is it that it's a woman's issue rather than i can bring up i can bring up both i mean
03:24:06.200
there's sure places where like men are at fault and there's places where women are at fault so in
03:24:10.420
that specific issue that you brought up is it just a woman's issue or do men have any played a part
03:24:15.760
of course i have a part so what would be the what would the part be i would probably say being the
03:24:21.460
not the demand like they're kind of creating a demand for a certain type of
03:24:27.460
woman like oh i want to just sleep around on the first date and i want to make sure i have a girl
03:24:34.420
who does that and then women are kind of like okay i guess i'll just do that okay so men created hookup
03:24:38.980
culture and women participated in them i think if you take a step back and i think if you say that
03:24:43.520
feminism i would say is sort of the precursor to the red pill movement i think women did create the
03:24:49.420
problem because feminism went way too far in a telling women that they could treat their sexuality
03:24:57.160
basically not basically acting like men and i think it subverted what was a really really nice
03:25:03.320
traditional arrangement between men and women where men would provide for women do you think it's okay
03:25:07.780
if men sleep around i don't support promissivity i don't i don't think men should sleep around either
03:25:13.060
so you really should so so no one should how are we getting to this point where you call yourself a
03:25:18.280
certified e-what oh baby e-whore baby um sorry with the shout out when you like joke about that i think
03:25:27.140
that sort of dovetails with what what you're saying in the sense that when you joke about being an e-whore
03:25:32.920
that doesn't really make men want to like treat you or view women as respecting themselves and as deserving
03:25:39.560
they're gonna call me a whore regardless whether i call myself well if you're what if you're on only
03:25:47.600
fans no you've got i think it's kind of like a catch what's what i don't really think my
03:25:54.840
watch yourself brian watch yourself what watch yourself i think we just call shitty people shitty
03:26:01.960
people yeah i mean i yeah people are gonna call me names regardless like no matter what like i'll be
03:26:06.320
live streamer on twitch playing fucking world of warcraft and they'll be like you're a disgusting
03:26:09.600
whore show me your asshole and i'm like wow you're like in the same breath too yeah i'm like can i
03:26:14.460
just play this game like i'm gonna get treated like garbage regardless just for being a woman
03:26:17.900
and online especially in the scope of dating though i think only fans are just that general approach to
03:26:24.180
female sexuality where you're commodifying your body for yeah okay not five dollars a month but
03:26:28.460
twenty dollars a month that sort of just breaks down the fabric of traditional relationships where men
03:26:32.580
yeah feel like they can treat you poorly because if i feel like a man is treating me poorly i wouldn't
03:26:38.040
give him the time of day it's hard because like men are consuming content but women are creating the
03:26:43.080
content like the ability to enforce that supply and demand that's hard i do no you don't a creepy guy who
03:26:49.660
could be treating you horribly could still pay and subscribe to your but i wouldn't date him if he's
03:26:53.800
treating me horribly but they still get access to you and they could subscribe and watch a podcast
03:26:57.960
it's the same thing as like me posting on my instagram i have all my clothes on during my podcast
03:27:01.740
she doesn't do it me too i don't do nudes i don't think you just have to pay to look at it
03:27:05.700
lingerie it's lingerie is fine that doesn't bother me the thing is is i wouldn't interact with someone
03:27:10.800
who i felt like was being mean to me you're gonna be mean to me because of something that i do
03:27:15.360
bye that's not an issue for me i'm not necessarily talking about like an interpersonal like being
03:27:20.480
mean to you like you're talking about dating i'm talking about how men approach relation i'm not
03:27:26.420
talking like you're sitting on a date and they say something offensive to you i'm talking about
03:27:29.860
like i think when when women have sort of taken the feminism pill hardcore and they're oh i don't
03:27:34.940
need a man men or whatever that men are going to be more inclined to not treat you with what is a more
03:27:40.780
traditional cherishing role that women i think that i do need a man i would love to have a man in my
03:27:48.060
life and i would love to have some sort of relationship when the time comes but right now because i'm doing
03:27:53.840
only fans there's a lot of men who don't want to interact with me and also because i'm not
03:27:57.260
particularly interested in having a relationship right now there's a lot of men who don't you know
03:28:00.940
wouldn't pursue me and that's fine with me that doesn't bother me i think women are born inherently
03:28:05.100
with their value and your job as a woman is to preserve it by not making choices where you sell
03:28:10.180
yourself out for a variety i think my job to work hard can i add something to this but a lot of these
03:28:16.420
like companies and these like the whole like everyone sells sex it's all also started by men
03:28:22.920
a lot of times everyone sells sex weird this is a weird like point of view to be like oh it's
03:28:27.400
women's fault for doing this but a lot of times these are porn happened before only fans exactly
03:28:32.080
people were profiting off of women before only fans came again by pimps and things like that so it's
03:28:37.200
like it's weird to be like blaming the women my critique is a feminism and we have women to
03:28:42.440
to to to blame pretty heavily for that feminism we we're not we're not saying oh bring power to
03:28:50.620
like prostitution or anything it's weird it this has been happening for many many many years i'm
03:28:55.280
also i mean it's right though or like a healthy road for people so if i'm more parasocial hold on
03:29:01.180
if i did pornography would it be okay if i was straight up on porn hub so so why are you saying
03:29:05.960
only fans is on a different level than pornography well what i was saying is women are born inherently
03:29:12.320
with their value in my opinion and men are not and they have to work to achieve it right if you look
03:29:18.580
at what men go after beauty and women more or less and women go after men with you know status that
03:29:23.780
they can provide for them and all i'm saying is that when you do things like only fans when you do
03:29:28.460
things like porn now take a step back okay if it would have been you know 30 years ago it wouldn't
03:29:32.820
have been only fans it would have been you know who knows prostitution whatever that up in that current
03:29:37.740
that year it would have been that you are denigrating yourself and basically proving that you are not
03:29:43.780
a woman that is deserving not of respect but that you're not upholding your inherent value as a woman
03:29:48.800
would you say a man's inherent value would be ruined if he did porn well not even i would say anyone i mean
03:29:54.540
i think anyone would but i think where we derive our value from is slightly different and just on your
03:30:00.140
point about only fans or the men running this again it's it's like these women who are in these
03:30:05.500
vulnerable states who they they have they don't have any means to be able to make money we can
03:30:10.160
throw the vulnerable states of the window though so you're saying you guys are being exploited by
03:30:13.820
no no no i'm saying we can throw that out the window your original point from many many years ago that
03:30:18.120
that was my like my statement no no it's like where this first started right it was it was like for
03:30:24.340
example men's taking advantage of these women who who needed a means of making money right sex work
03:30:29.800
years and years ago sex work has always been a thing though even in like years is years of like
03:30:36.960
before christ after christ all those years like sex work has always been a thing so it derived from
03:30:43.600
men controlling women a lot of times too so like i i don't get the point of holding women accountable
03:30:48.900
but saying men men are like it's okay right no i think we ought to hold them both accountable yeah
03:30:54.160
exactly i think you want to hold one accountable with the other i'm not saying to not hold men
03:30:59.100
accountable i think the ceo of only fans who i actually believe is a woman but the owner of it
03:31:02.420
is a ukrainian the ceo now is a woman but who it was it was from it was it started in england
03:31:07.880
it was a dude it sounds like you guys are trying to deflect blame you guys are choosing to make
03:31:13.240
content i'm sorry it's crazy the women doing only fans wouldn't be popular if they just didn't put
03:31:21.480
themselves in the situation to be on only fans men are gonna make women popular whether you're
03:31:25.600
on only fans what is the point of this conversation what's like i'm so lost here what's the point i
03:31:29.620
feel like what i don't respect is more like the not so much like someone doing only fans i because
03:31:35.480
obviously i would respect most people because you're a person any person has inherent value but
03:31:39.740
it's this idea of chasing meaningless pleasure like just the ease yeah i don't respect people like oh
03:31:46.380
it's easy it's easy to consume porn it's easy just like put out content like that doesn't seem
03:31:51.320
if the point is that it's gonna like limit your dating pool sure i hear that if the point is that
03:31:56.440
it's not morally correct in your eyes sure i get that like what is the point of this i don't
03:32:01.600
understand what is like what is your oh i guess i think it's who's who is to blame for this it's
03:32:05.900
kind of like a chicken and the egg it's also like nobody is to blame but it's also like is it
03:32:09.500
detrimental to society you're a model that's kind of thing it's like it is only fans detrimental to
03:32:15.240
society i mean the normalization of only fans is detrimental to society yes
03:32:19.240
yeah how do you say that as someone who works and we should also blame every fast food worker for
03:32:26.340
obesity see yeah i wouldn't like anyone who works in any bad we should blame every bad aspect of
03:32:32.200
capitalism at that point we should not get rid of capitalism you are playing you just said the
03:32:36.520
industry i think if i don't believe in the normalization of it that like that's crazy um i
03:32:43.520
would never recommend to anyone that came to me to make an account i would never say yeah you should
03:32:48.440
make one if you have an account i can probably make you more money than you can make yourself
03:32:52.320
like that's that's it i'm just curious from your personal moral perspective how do you justify
03:32:58.560
working in an industry that you i have no moral dilemma with it i don't think that we should be
03:33:03.360
talking about it like vlogs of oh i just bought this yacht it went on this 20 000 day i think people
03:33:08.480
should be open to the discussion of the negative side effects of only fans and we should have these
03:33:12.560
conversations like dopamine depletion if you watch you should vilify the people in it vilify the
03:33:16.840
industry not the people well i just think i'm very sex work neutral if you do it you do it if you
03:33:21.700
don't for your actions yeah and have i not taken have i not taken accountability this whole time
03:33:29.120
i'm not vilifying you okay what's up i do think uh i do think she makes a good point that women who
03:33:38.640
are participating in the industry are a problem and i think that they make a good point that men who
03:33:45.760
are participating in the industry by watching it and paying for it are playing a part both of the
03:33:51.280
i mean sex work in general is wrong and anyone who participates in it it's not a good thing to do
03:33:58.280
it's wrong thing to do so i mean of course the men who are watching it shouldn't be watching it and
03:34:05.060
the women who are yeah perpetuating the demand shouldn't be participating it we can take
03:34:09.000
accountability the industry is ruining society nobody should be participating there's also the
03:34:14.020
fact that like even like even if i wasn't doing like only fans or whatever like there's gonna be
03:34:19.360
men who speak to me in in such a disgusting horrible way like who who come into me like why aren't you
03:34:24.940
selling nudes like i literally was streaming on twitch the other day playing world of warcraft
03:34:28.800
and they're like why aren't you showing your ass yeah but that shirt is so tight on you why
03:34:32.920
there's so many like i don't do of and i still get those dms you don't have to no no it's not the
03:34:37.600
men bad i'm just saying they're creating a demand for it they're like i literally had someone mad at
03:34:41.560
me being like why aren't you advertising your only fans why aren't you being nice to me i'm like i'm
03:34:44.580
not being nice to you because you're being weird this is chatterbait you freak it's crazy sorry my bad
03:34:48.440
i don't mean what is your what is your plan like kind of after only fans is yeah i'm getting my
03:34:54.160
degree in accounting oh nice yeah and if it if someone doesn't want to hire me because i have
03:34:58.720
only fans or whatever that's fine whatever i'll work at a gas station for the rest of my life i have
03:35:03.260
to she sounds like a hustler whatever makes it work listen i'm from the boonies dog we got three
03:35:08.840
mcdonald's she didn't mention that no like again i don't i don't want to make anyone who has an only
03:35:14.000
fans like feel bad i wish you didn't do it but it's what it is it is what it is but
03:35:18.420
yeah i can't say like oh it's julie's fault you're from the boonies dog i'm from the boonies
03:35:24.040
three mcdonald's from vancouver no no no she's from vancouver i'm not vancouver i'm not i'm not
03:35:31.120
from couver i'm from like a small town she's from the mean streets of vancouver no no no hold on it
03:35:36.040
takes eight hours for me to get to couver so couver leave me alone that's what it's called
03:35:41.120
leave me alone eat your peaches go ahead continue um well i was gonna say wait hold on abigail go
03:35:47.200
in go ahead continue oh wait i think i'm i think i made my my point that um women who participate in
03:35:54.660
the industry are absolutely part of the problem of course we're not blaming those women you're not
03:35:59.340
the sole holder of the blame but you're absolutely part of the problem and if if you think that sex
03:36:04.400
work or the industry is ruining society i don't think you should play a part in it yeah i get that
03:36:12.200
i gotta eat i mean yeah you might you might really need money but there really are other ways to make
03:36:19.100
money no there are this is an easy way but there are certainly not everything that's easy is good
03:36:23.460
usually things that are easier or hold on but yeah that's the point i was trying to make of like
03:36:27.860
the ease like the procedures i want to do the easiest thing there's here's the thing here's the
03:36:32.700
thing about so i could work at a gas station i'm working there 30 hours a week you know i get i get
03:36:37.480
a paycheck of 1500 a month that covers my rent doesn't cover all of my bills you know it doesn't
03:36:43.040
cover my schooling or anything like that i i work on only fans i post three photos a week i make three
03:36:49.260
grand a month without doing anything if i work harder i make more than that why wouldn't i do that
03:36:54.920
why wouldn't i my my schooling's paid for my rent's paid for my food is paid for my gas is paid for
03:36:59.840
my insurance is something else that's very easy monetary yeah yeah i care about having a roof
03:37:05.340
over my head no can i add something that i see so you turn 18 years old and you marry a 40 year old
03:37:10.340
and then you you get a roof you get everything right i don't want to marry a 40 year old i'm saying
03:37:14.780
but it's easy so you're saying easy means bad right easy is not always bad yeah it's not always bad
03:37:21.260
i said usually yeah usually bad so you're saying just marrying a random 40 year old just to pay your
03:37:26.720
bill do we hate age gaps is bad i mean i would say yeah there's better if you if you care about
03:37:32.500
a future and a family and you're just settling for a guy just because he has money that's not a great
03:37:36.960
situation well the money's a benefit the money's a benefit it's not the sole reason it's easy like
03:37:41.100
i think my i'm sure most of us probably think our jobs are maybe inherently easy like we're naturally
03:37:44.980
drawn to something it is the job in and of itself i would say that only fans is probably like
03:37:50.760
morally wrong yeah there's a lot of things in life that people do that are morally wrong
03:37:54.720
well i don't think only fans is easy though yeah because you have to deal with all this hate from
03:37:59.740
people and telling you you're bad you're contributing to the society getting fucked up it might mess with
03:38:06.200
your head a little bit the backlash but it's pretty easy to take a picture well there's a
03:38:09.320
fuck with my head but it's not easy i'm fucked up you have to like actually promote it you don't
03:38:14.940
just like post your butthole and you're rich you know jesus loves you so much jesus i like to make
03:38:28.220
jokes i will say though like i agree make that same joke but with the the a different mussolini
03:38:34.560
yeah mussolini that's the choice oh but like a different religious figure that same joke with
03:38:40.540
a different about muhammad muhammad yeah you're gonna get banned you're gonna get banned but that's
03:38:46.260
the point like you can make fun of christianity you can't make fun of any other religion i don't know
03:38:49.960
muslim was a dictator muslims would get more upset about people making fun of jesus than christians
03:38:57.300
yeah yeah yeah that's true because uh jesus i guess is still like a one a what do they call him
03:39:04.340
yeah the muslim's a prophet king of the jews he's the son of god he's talking about
03:39:10.020
he was a prophet to christianity and to muslims oh you mean a jewish people
03:39:13.940
you'd probably i don't want you to say it but i'll say he wants you to say it he wants you to
03:39:20.800
say it don't tempt me don't tempt me you can't blame only fans on male i was saying earlier i
03:39:25.480
just think i do really believe it's both men and women that need to take accountability i think men
03:39:31.100
need to be stronger and need to be able to not engage yeah self-control and not engage in this
03:39:37.380
kind of stuff i don't think it's necessarily a man thing i mean i have to be honest like men have
03:39:41.840
more of the power to like that's great disintegrate this because if they stop
03:39:45.460
if they stop like women stop consuming content then there'd be nothing does anybody want to take
03:39:51.040
a peach shot i want to please no it's just the juice you touched me you touched it you try to
03:39:58.960
make me crush a bug and you won't give me the peach juice if someone don't he took it himself
03:40:02.700
you stole it from me that was my peach juice that was my i will say the only problem that i feel
03:40:11.740
like i have though is to bring up like that your bills are paid or like rent is paid and that
03:40:16.100
that's why you do it because there's other jobs there's no no i'm not i can't do other jobs and
03:40:21.240
still get myself paid but it's so much easier to just do only fans but that's easier okay that was
03:40:25.380
it i'm totally fine with it being easier i'm totally fine with it but she also has her own hours because
03:40:29.960
there's a lot of like nine to fives and things like that if i'm trying to stand by that you would be
03:40:34.540
you would kill someone if you needed to put a provide for my family me dog absolutely there's
03:40:41.080
so many people though that are able to do that without doing only fans so i feel like that i'm
03:40:45.660
so happy it is difficult i'm so happy for them i had a very different life situation i don't have
03:40:51.400
anyone to fall back on i don't have parents i don't have friends i don't have i mean are you also
03:40:55.640
i was fostered i went to foster care beginning of the show yeah she yeah is it is it too late for
03:41:02.300
an apology yes actually it's too late for an apology however you can't give me 10 grand
03:41:07.440
or the peach juice yeah at least the peace peach juice yeah you if nothing else the peach juice i
03:41:14.220
could have taken the peaches i'm gonna read uh i'm gonna have actually natalie read some of these
03:41:18.400
chats red pill is sorry red pill has seen the world for how it is like the fact that you're a sex
03:41:24.880
hypocrite and that if you can get a woman to pay for a date that's a win she doesn't care about
03:41:29.440
her money why should i huh hmm all right thank you that's a good couple they belong together and
03:41:37.440
then we have another one about to come in from him you can't blame only fans uh or corn on male
03:41:44.180
control it's a lack of male control if anyone wants to be controlled by a man hit me up in my dms
03:41:49.920
but you won't that's why carol woman is an insult by the way do you play world of warcraft
03:41:56.320
i'm a paladin i thought you knew that before i thought that's your buddy you should know if he's
03:42:02.100
a paladin or not you don't play wow anymore he's my he's my homie but we don't talk about video
03:42:05.840
games because it's a sensitive subject why do you know what was your main yeah what's your class
03:42:10.800
what's your race what's your class are you on alliance oh he's alliance for sure huh you are
03:42:15.680
alliance aren't you oh well then you play on horde we're all horde i used to play i don't play
03:42:21.760
okay but what did you play wow uh well what did you play do that one more time zog zog let me hear
03:42:27.880
you for the horde for the horde okay okay but wait what race were you on horde for real
03:42:35.060
all right i have no idea what is being said i'll keep going we're playing world of warcraft
03:42:41.940
okay decent she's rogue she's rogue blood elf i'm paladin blood elf your hunter blood elf
03:42:48.580
i'll play anything blood elves are hot as fuck what can i say
03:42:51.860
what the fuck was that shit i'm sorry i'm sorry you don't get wow it's not my problem dog lady sylvanas
03:43:01.220
is my queen no matter what all right all right stop pandering to the world of warcraft no we actually
03:43:07.700
just ladies of honor is my queen no we just had a lot of fun last night my bad our bad what's that
03:43:13.780
oh i the the kinks living on the thin line like three hours later burgess probably still isn't even
03:43:19.700
watching burgess let me know if you're watching and i'll tell you about the i'll give you the scoop
03:43:25.220
i'll give you the deal okay let's get into back to cat over here you i don't know if this is on your
03:43:31.940
ig or like your twitter you say you're boringly white yes on my instagram bio boringly white what
03:43:37.540
is it what does that it was a joke it's just funny as fuck boringly white i don't care it's funny is
03:43:43.300
that not funny it was like a chat she got imagine you go to an ehor's instagram and you read the bio
03:43:48.980
and this shit says it boringly white you're like what the fuck is that not funny as hell i i mean i i
03:43:57.140
came across it and oh did you not laugh you ready for my reaction yeah this is my reaction did you
03:44:03.220
laugh did you laugh this is my reaction this is how i reacted when i saw that shit you didn't like it
03:44:10.180
cold-blooded hold on let me also andrew tate actually also
03:44:15.780
that was his reaction to it too it's funny it's just a joke it's just a joke like it's just stupid
03:44:21.700
it's just genuinely stupid oh wait actually hold on oh no okay that's fine i say stupid
03:44:28.340
shit all the time like i just i genuinely think it's a joke uh okay anyways thank you yeah you're
03:44:35.940
very fun let's see oh going to how do you say your name again jojo oh herba fiend
03:44:44.740
it's josephine is my wait actually i gotta ask because i ask you this question every single show
03:44:49.140
oh let's go so i'm excited we've been preparing the great hillary clinton once said something along
03:44:56.500
the lines of women and children are the primary victims of war oh that's so crazy so between men
03:45:04.660
and women who's the primary victim of war who is whoa you've never asked this before
03:45:11.940
i have to think about something new and different you've changed after no i've actually uh it's crazy
03:45:17.300
because she's double down no it's because i've even asked like my dad who's 20 years military
03:45:22.660
and things like that and guess what he said oh yeah what did your dad say he said women oh he i have
03:45:28.100
a full text message i can go get my phone and like show you the full text message of the reasonings
03:45:33.540
the reasoning is why it's the women that he believes is the victim okay why don't you just tell us what
03:45:38.500
what your argument is then or his argument that you believe in uh it's the same things that i've been
03:45:43.300
like repeating it's like restate it because there's new people at the table new viewers well it's what
03:45:48.660
you constitute as the main victims for example if you constitute a death as a victim more of a victim
03:45:55.140
versus like brutally brutally like tortured or graped i feel like it's grape grape yeah i'm not gonna
03:46:02.980
say i can't go into the details of it like what you constitute it's like the economy that you have to
03:46:09.780
pick up versus especially the time periods wise of what like a lot of time period wise there's a
03:46:15.700
majority of men who had to go to war for example so women were not working at the time so even with
03:46:22.500
majority of men dying for example you have to still pick up the economy and things like that of the
03:46:27.460
countries you're from and uh they were gonna have to go and would the women exclusively be picking up
03:46:34.100
the economy of the country majority of men are dying in wars right so especially at the time period so
03:46:40.660
it's not understanding clearly clearly coughing sorry you're not understanding
03:46:49.380
so yeah so yeah um they would have to go and get the pick up the jobs that like the men were like
03:46:54.900
dying from for example and so like it hurts the economy in a way and then so uh just to be clear you put
03:47:02.980
bad economy over millions of men dead so again it's what you constitute what what's the victim of war
03:47:10.900
picking up a dead economy okay let me here let's let's bring it i'm gonna bring it so war is on the
03:47:17.540
macro level let me bring it to the micro level if somebody gets shot dead in the street yeah are they a victim
03:47:24.180
um is there another is there no versus you could answer the question versus what versus nothing i'm
03:47:33.780
just asking you a question yeah of course they're a victim yeah so sad would the police now if the police
03:47:40.500
wait what i said so sad rest in peace okay so if the police are investigating a murder for example
03:47:47.220
okay um how do they categorize the person who was murdered as a what a victim a victim okay how do
03:47:55.860
you think they categorize like r-worded victims and essays are worded victims or s8 and r-worded and
03:48:04.100
things like that there you go so same yeah okay how do you think they categorize somebody who's been
03:48:09.140
who uh someone who owns a uh a business and someone came in and shop shoplifted a five dollar piece of
03:48:17.380
merchandise yes victims as well uh but so there's scales right but are there scales to it so would
03:48:22.980
you would you agree when it comes to victimization somebody who's had their shop uh their store shoplifted
03:48:28.420
of a five dollar piece of merchandise that's less of a victim than somebody who's been murdered
03:48:32.580
your answer the question yes answer the question okay yes do you remember when your guest andrew
03:48:38.420
wilson came on and it said would you rather be r-worded or would you rather be killed what
03:48:42.260
what did he say do you remember yeah i remember him as asking the question no i i asked that and he
03:48:49.460
said killed okay cool so there's some people who would say that what women have gone through in war
03:48:57.940
is worse than a lot of times in war is worse than men is worse than men you'd have to define victim
03:49:03.540
like he also you gotta be you gotta be intellectually honest with this he also said that he was being
03:49:09.780
essayed by somebody of the same sex that's a crazy statement don't you understand but i disagree with
03:49:15.300
him i disagree with him but i guess for him specifically and he's also not here so i'm not
03:49:20.980
making but no we're talking about i'm not making his argument we're talking we're talking about
03:49:24.580
would it not mostly be men in war essaying you yes it will be but he's saying if a woman he he's
03:49:32.820
okay with a woman doing it okay so but okay well we can get into that if you you keep seeming to
03:49:41.220
want to bring up essay so i get well actually hold on before we do that let's i should have asked the
03:49:45.700
whole panel this who's the primary victim of war men or women i'll keep going women you know that's fine
03:49:52.260
good i don't know well you if you had to pick like war like with the military like are we talking
03:50:00.820
about a specific uh historically modern war so okay you could look at world war one world war
03:50:05.780
two vietnam war iraq war ukraine war etc who's the primary victim of war men or women well men i think
03:50:15.860
obviously okay yeah i'd say men probably men men uh i would say men men you mean women men men okay
03:50:27.620
i don't want to linger on this too long since the oh go ahead that is because what i value as like
03:50:32.100
the ultimate punishment is i would rather get essayed and tortured than unalived and but i think
03:50:38.900
that's where me and kirby disagree where she sees that as the ultimate punishment so i would
03:50:42.420
rather not man or bear you picked bear no i don't pick the man i pick the man i could i could choke
03:50:48.260
out a man i can't choke out a bear we might have to go to bear man question like straight yeah yeah
03:50:52.100
well we can let's go bear bear because now i'm guys you can put a man in a chokehold not a bear
03:50:59.700
like you're gonna lose i'm not putting any man in a chokehold if you need i'm just saying if you
03:51:02.820
needed to like i would pick the man hopefully he's a regular person who doesn't want to
03:51:06.180
a regular question bear worst man in the world let's go so a regular man will dominate
03:51:12.020
worst man best bear worst man worst bear both of those i like bears they're cute they're cuddly
03:51:17.780
i don't know the question is who's the primary victim so it's not that the women aren't victims
03:51:23.060
everyone's a victim of war they're secondary victims so the primary would be the first person who's the
03:51:27.300
victim exactly yeah draft me women would be draft me the issue is because what she's trying to explain
03:51:32.820
is like in her head when you're dead you're gone your suffering is over whereas like the women of
03:51:37.620
these countries but lost their families their children there's no agreeance on that not all
03:51:45.220
of them die in war a lot of them walk away with trauma they had to do with a lot of it still
03:51:50.740
fucks up your whole family for sure and i mean yes the women and the children are back home and
03:51:56.660
suffering because their father or their husband is out in war so they've lost their father or husband
03:52:02.740
but that father husband that man has lost his wife and his kids and his friends and his family
03:52:08.420
to go out into war to get traumatized and so even if he doesn't die i would still say that that's
03:52:15.460
pretty that's ptsd and you have to leave your family as well you like you have your whole life back at
03:52:21.220
home to fight in a war that makes you a pretty pretty primary victim and just to like i don't disagree
03:52:27.540
with you i think it's still men disagree on that i think we shouldn't discount women's suffering
03:52:31.540
though well we're well we're not yeah anymore but the women yeah the women don't become victims
03:52:37.220
until the men are the victims so like they're not even considered victims until something happens to
03:52:42.020
the man yeah well hold on we have to just getting even your husband even your son just getting drafted
03:52:46.740
is horrible yeah of course that would totally but your son would have to be drafted yeah but which
03:52:50.820
one's worse getting drafted that would suck it depends maybe he loves the idea he watched top gun
03:52:57.300
last week he's like i'm ready to go of course there's gonna be exceptions to the rule but the
03:53:01.540
exception doesn't make the rule it's generally men and generally women who's the primary victim
03:53:07.220
wait hold on you said drafted though so if he was that gung-ho he would have volunteered not been
03:53:12.740
drafted yeah i mean you but even he could have just watched top gun last week and been hyped
03:53:17.940
i don't know what time you're watching but you didn't watch top gun you wasn't into that i have
03:53:22.580
and i don't think it's the same when you watched okay i watched it so can you make your case for
03:53:27.060
how women are the primary victims we can you you keep making this case with ukraine or russia there
03:53:31.940
um statistics online is 53 of the people assaulted is actually women and girls right so there is a
03:53:39.540
statistical online explaining like 53 so half over over half 53 is over half you literally okay yeah cool
03:53:47.380
that means the other 47 that one metric that three percent increment yes that's your basis for
03:53:55.940
at least in the ukraine conflict well i gave you an a basis you asked me what's my argument and i
03:54:01.220
could you google that well hold on because when you talk about the ukraine i looked it up before this
03:54:05.060
podcast when you keep bringing up the ukraine argument when you talk about the ukraine conflict
03:54:09.700
you show a bunch of like girls on tinder with their ass out and then a bunch of like dead men and
03:54:14.100
it's like well it doesn't exactly work that way it doesn't it kind of does it does but it doesn't
03:54:21.940
at the same time so 60 000 women are actually fighting the lines right but there's 3.2 million
03:54:28.500
women in ukraine so they allow this but there is gender biased assault on women a lot of times in the
03:54:36.180
invading country of russia and that's why of the assaulted women are or 53 of people in ukraine
03:54:45.380
are women and girls that that's the whole point and that's my basis it's not like like obviously
03:54:51.860
there's women on tinder and there's men dead in the ditch but there's also women dead in the
03:54:55.540
ditch and men on tinder it's just like i would say one of the things to consider i think i saw this on
03:55:00.660
another one i don't remember what the percentage was but we're not considering that not all men that
03:55:05.700
go to war are married or have like anybody to be victims back home no no well the ultimate price
03:55:12.660
you're paying is with your life hold on you don't need to be married to have victims back home they're
03:55:15.940
still like your you know your brothers and your sisters and your parents and your siblings and
03:55:20.100
if you're yeah but you can have kids okay but i'll even i'll even argue even if the man is married
03:55:25.620
even if he's married and he has five daughters even if he's married has five daughters doesn't
03:55:33.380
have a father has a has a mother and has a dozen sisters the man is still the primary victim of war
03:55:42.580
even with all this collateral uh mental harm to like a group of 20 women the men is still the man is
03:55:51.380
still the primary victim of the of war nick do you pull up can you pull up the did you find her
03:55:57.300
thing why are we trying to like say who has it worse they were getting attacked in a different
03:56:08.340
country can you pull it up but it's uh can you just drag it over so i can see it i guess why are we
03:56:17.620
trying to play the oh my hurt is worse than your hurt kind of game what was that my whole point
03:56:21.940
from the original argument the first day i said i don't think we should pick which is the worst
03:56:27.140
because like they're both she tried to say both earth is the victims like this is yeah click it she
03:56:32.500
tried to say both and they're like no you have to pick and she's like well i'm going to go with one
03:56:37.620
so they just kept pushing her she wanted to yeah yeah she ruffled some feathers yeah of course not
03:56:42.180
necessarily but i i just think everyone's but it doesn't it doesn't take away like the plight of
03:56:46.580
women like you do when there's no men to protect you like the good ones who are going out and trying
03:56:50.580
to fight for you know freedom and stuff like there's no one to protect you against the oppressor
03:56:55.540
i mean there's no one to protect men against the oppressor like on the front lines like that's
03:56:58.820
obviously fucking horrid again you can make a class you can make a class argument so that that's the
03:57:03.620
whole thing with like well um men men are the one who initiate words wars but then and then men are
03:57:09.380
the only ones able to like go to war and things like that but then you can that's a class claim it's not
03:57:14.260
it's not a gender claim it's a class claim a class claim yeah what like a class claim as in like
03:57:21.140
it's based off i also sent you something in private chat nick it's like based off of um
03:57:28.260
here we'll pull it we'll pull your study up is this mine is this it's another one that i found
03:57:33.380
but are you saying only poor men have to go to war well when i say it's a class claim
03:57:38.340
yeah go ahead i don't know they're just prattling about something by a ccr that's not that's not
03:57:43.300
the study that this is literally the same person that had the 53 there was another one i had but
03:57:48.740
this one is not it what's your study then well i don't know the website but tell us what's a google
03:57:53.700
then give us the prompt and we'll find it so what i looked up is ukraine women and then i looked up like
03:57:59.300
ukraine women and i'm literally allowing you to pull up because i looked up a lot because okay
03:58:10.180
well fine we'll go to mine then we can go to yours nick pull this one up
03:58:17.140
make it bigger by the way this is from the women's refugee refugee commission so it's already going to
03:58:22.180
be biased towards women uh as of february 2023 okay so this is like old this is old but anyways uh has
03:58:29.140
displaced more than 14 million people stop don't fucking interrupt me more than eight million
03:58:35.540
ukrainians are now refugees uh hold on where is it where is it about the percentage does it have
03:58:43.460
percentage for women it was like 90 or something one sec oh what showed it in the fucking thing it
03:58:51.700
says many displaced ukrainian women are particularly vulnerable because they are pregnant or have small
03:58:56.980
children wait hold on let me see if i can so or have a disability or a victim of violence so most of
03:59:01.940
the women that left aren't actually doing very good nick i'm sending you a different one this one's
03:59:08.820
even more biased and they pulled it off the screen towards women it's the un women which has a
03:59:13.540
un is major cucked un women let's find a feminist organization fits our uh narrative it's literally
03:59:22.660
not fitting my narrative no i sorry i just like to i'm i like to make jokes okay make it bigger
03:59:29.300
uh okay five as of this is this is uh 5.5 million refugees have already fled ukraine uh of those who
03:59:38.340
have fled the country it's estimated that 90 are women and children right while most men aged 18 to 60
03:59:47.060
this is from a feminist source by the way are required to stay behind under martial law it did also
03:59:52.500
say in the last city that most of the women that left were pregnant or had children or were disabled
03:59:57.700
or had already been assaulted what that's literally what it just said in the last study i read it out
04:00:02.580
you're telling me the women who are going to the western border that i just read it in the east
04:00:08.980
most of the women are coming what i just read the last study out loud that's what it said what can i
04:00:14.500
say brother what can i say the majority of the women who have that's what it said are disabled that's
04:00:22.500
what it said literally go back to no it literally said they were pregnant or they had children or they
04:00:27.220
were disabled or they they were had already been victimized by the war that's literally what it said
04:00:33.140
in the very last study you were on i read it out loud am i wrong or am i right i don't know dude
04:00:42.340
i literally just read it out loud i swear to god it said many displaced ukrainian women are
04:00:47.700
particularly vulnerable because they are pregnant or have small children have a or have a disability
04:00:53.780
or are a victim so maybe not the majority we can throw the majority out the window but a lot of
04:00:57.780
displaced yeah so we'll throw the majority out the window i'll take that part but
04:01:00.740
literally everyone in ukraine is a victim of violence they're in a fucking war so the majority
04:01:06.180
baby i'm still right yeah but it doesn't mean anything no okay it's fine it doesn't mean anything
04:01:12.100
it literally means nothing in any case so you're good i just like to mess around my bad okay so you
04:01:18.580
think in the ukraine in the ukraine conflict that women are the primary victims of war i i i can send you
04:01:25.860
the article because i have the history on her computer how about i just grant how about i just
04:01:31.460
grant you that you said what 53 yes i'll just grant you the statistic okay so then 47 sure now if i gave
04:01:39.700
you a statistic that like 95 of the uh military casualties so deaths and injuries are men which
04:01:48.260
which one's worse um well sure you and again the statistics you give right there you disagree you
04:01:56.420
think i don't know the exact numbers but i would assume that yeah 95 of the military casualties are men
04:02:06.020
well you can give in your the statistics of what you're giving me the frame framework of what you're
04:02:13.620
giving me sure men are the victims wait king donated two hundred dollars brian i'm sure you have heard
04:02:21.540
that the government is in the process of passing a bill that would automatically sign women up for the
04:02:26.660
draft would the feminists here support this it's been like the any push to have women have to register
04:02:34.820
for the selective service has been uh has been shot down every single time it's been brought i think
04:02:42.340
it went to the supreme court it's been to congress on the in the legislative branch uh i know recently
04:02:52.180
men are now automatically registered for selective service you no longer have to you're just
04:02:56.740
automatically placed in the uh program as a man between 18 to 25 26 i think uh so men no longer have
04:03:04.340
to register because you're just automatically in it i've not heard a corresponding thing for women
04:03:10.260
i'm not sure how that'll play out maybe they get um they get automatically registered maybe they don't
04:03:16.900
but in any case currently they're not required to so wait so i'm just a bit confused okay so back to
04:03:21.220
this ukraine thing so are you seeding the point i'm just confused i'm i'm saying in again framework
04:03:28.260
just like what happened last time framework of what you give me yes i can see so but are you
04:03:33.060
denying that that's the framework i am denying that's the framework wait i'm so i'm confused i'm
04:03:38.180
denying that's the the reality of the framework right it's the framework of what you give me but
04:03:43.060
i don't you deny that this is the reality like current so you're saying that i'm overestimating the
04:03:48.900
amount of male military casualties let me just here i'll just be charitable and i'll just say we'll go down
04:03:54.820
to eighty percent eighty percent of military casualties are men which it's not but even if
04:04:00.420
we use those numbers if you're only doing military casualties that's very different than civilian
04:04:05.540
casualties so that's which would also incorporate male civilians of course it does
04:04:12.580
dude robert tanner thank you for the uh 50 memberships man really appreciate it you're a
04:04:16.580
fucking legend thank you man well women deal with war in a different way than men do
04:04:22.420
nice good point look at you i'm helping you out i'm helping you out so uh i'm just a little confused
04:04:28.900
here how come we can talk about this but not as real the only way it'd be comfortable like the point
04:04:35.300
that you made is he's not bringing up yeah great contribution to the conversation there was mine good
04:04:41.220
no when did world war one start the only reason that your point that you brought up that he's not
04:04:48.180
bringing up civilian casualties would actually be a good point is if the civilian casualties were also
04:04:53.460
eighty percent women because if if not then you've got like the eighty percent ninety something percent
04:05:00.580
of military casual casualties being men well and then the civilian casualties it's likely it's fifty
04:05:07.220
percent but even if it's even if it's mostly women it's not a it's not a good point to bring up and
04:05:13.540
to defend his argument or to you you get what i'm saying um unless continue with the that's the whole
04:05:19.620
point of like the 53 with the ukraine war and like russia because this is such a recent like war in
04:05:25.140
statistics they are able to actually deem like this is a gender bias but gender bias assault is the
04:05:31.140
majority of these women and like i i wish i could tell you the website i wish i memorized the website and
04:05:35.700
and i had it like on my phone right now so i could tell you guys it i i did research it before i came
04:05:40.980
here but it's it's gender bias assault it's not it's not like so wait what does that mean gender bias
04:05:48.980
because they are women they are choosing to assault them over men for example so it was a man in the
04:05:55.460
household it well this is this is absolutely bogus why well how so you you say so ukraine is partying
04:06:02.340
so so the women in ukraine are partying up somewhere in the clubs and this is bogus it
04:06:08.020
absolutely is bogus because the gender bias i can if you want to frame it from a gender bias the gender
04:06:13.780
bias is and this is from a this is a systemic thing this is from the government down men between the
04:06:21.300
ages of 18 to 60 or 65 i can't remember exactly what are barred under martial law from leaving the
04:06:28.260
country women are allowed to flee children are allowed to flee so i'll just turn it around on
04:06:33.940
you and say yeah there's a gender bias against men when was that passed
04:06:40.420
are you denying are you denying this because this article that at the breakout of war literally days
04:06:46.900
within the breakout of the war men could not flee the country women could you want me to pull up cnn bbc
04:06:53.620
i'll pull up any news source you want and it will show this because this was a 2020 23 article that i
04:06:59.460
i'm referencing right now so that's why i'm confused men have been barred from leaving the country from
04:07:05.380
the outbreak of the war what's your point but well if you want your country defended don't you want men
04:07:13.060
defending it i mean women are pretty well yeah there's reasons why but they're weak we don't want
04:07:17.540
them on the front lines it's a bad battle strat that's not really the argument and again the
04:07:22.500
conversation stems from who's the primary victim of war men or women play men yeah but kirby you
04:07:30.260
have to say victim you know i'm assuming you mean death like casualties so yeah that's the real
04:07:36.020
debate here yeah women have to suffer a lot of the ramifications of war wait nobody ever said that
04:07:40.980
you don't think casualties are victims i think casualties are victims and that's what my original point was but
04:07:46.740
again i think it's what do you think is the worst victims the people who are being tortured
04:07:52.020
and like okay i don't want to get into the the extremes of what happens in war crimes and things
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like that but it's again what you deem a fucking victim is she kind of cooking no not really okay
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so death instant gunshot and i'm not saying that of course men but there's no way for it to get
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better i guess it's just over versus over in there's a possibility for those kind of people to
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has anybody here gone through something traumatic yes yes absolutely would you rather have just not
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gone through that and be dead right now yes oh no no no you're going around the table have you ever
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gone through something traumatic oh no we're good it's fine oh nothing traumatic okay traumatic anything
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yeah and i i'm glad i'm alive i wouldn't rather be dead okay yes and i'm glad i'm alive
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sure i don't know yeah life's good now i choose death i mean you're living with the trauma now and
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you haven't yeah you're you're currently and look at that's fine i don't give it i don't give a
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but it it's wait there's a potential making your point irrelevant no no sorry it's my it's my elbow
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i need to go grab a band-aid we're good i'll hold it down here okay i'll hold it down here for a
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second it's just bleeding what about you um i wouldn't trade like any human experience for
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anything in the world because that's like what living is like i want to be as alive as possible like
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good bad whatever like it's life like i want to be experiencing life whatever it's handing to me i'm
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serious i'm so that is such a ridiculous statement with you wanting to live human life but you can get
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you can get completely tortured but you're living human life like that that's crazy well is that i
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guess that hope is like still alive right then you're just that's pretty much well that was pretty much
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my like original statement it's like well he asked me something how many how many women are being
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tortured in ukraine i don't assaulted 53 percent uh okay we're talking about torture has its own
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definition yeah okay like when i think of torture i think those like uh medieval like oh the stretcher
04:10:06.180
machines like like sawing you in half or something yeah like some crazy shit i don't know why torture
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what what it's possible that people are being tortured but uh yeah prisoners of war also but that's
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still like i feel like we're fighting a weird like who i would argue there's probably more men who are
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being tortured yeah in ukraine than women so your whole torture angle here the only thing i would
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even grant you is the this essay component sure okay agree to disagree actually wait i heard something
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about even men were being men men are essayed but women are predominantly essayed um i have a quick
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question just because i want to kind of like understand like where you're coming from so are you
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are you kind of saying like let's say the man is the is the primary victim but like since they're
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technically gone they don't have the ability to feel victimized no it's like it's kind of the point
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where it's like if you have instant death you're no longer like you're not you don't feel the pain
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the continual pain so they're like a lot of times with war crimes there's like the family's dying
04:11:13.860
family's dying in front of you family's getting like um like assaulted in front of you things like
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that and so you have to live with the pain of being not able to do things like that so like
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they've passed so they don't have the ability to feel victimized so they're like they're they're
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gone like right but i think in the question it's just like kind of like at least for me it's just
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very straightforward it's just in the action that happened who was the first victim well you don't
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know who went first right the man could have been allowed things are happening the the women don't
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become victims until the man does so like they're not i don't think that's necessarily true and i
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agree with that men are the victim of war like we don't know oh like they don't start like saying
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women before they go yeah we don't have any like right but i think you're framing it from the angle
04:12:00.820
of well the the family members will be sad but yeah yeah that's pretty much where i'm coming off of
04:12:06.900
it's like they're not going to be sad unless something happens to the man that i would agree with
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no we're talking about no i'm talking about kids as well the kids are at home they're not at like oh
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i mean of course if it's their older kids yeah sure but like well young kids i mean actually her point
04:12:22.500
even in the case of essay is still kind of valid no because there's typically a front line if the
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enemy then breaks through the front line aka a fuck ton of dead men then they can get into civilian
04:12:34.020
areas and then they can uh commit atrocities but it's typically not oh the women are just at the
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front and then the women get essayed then the fighting happens it's typically the fighting
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happens they break through the front line and if the uh belligerent force is inclined to uh commit
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war crimes basically then yeah i suppose after the men have been killed or casualties yeah they have to
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get through the men to get to the women well dependent on the area dependent on the invasion
04:13:04.500
dependent on if it's like a a new attack things like that yes i well hold on fine i'll even
04:13:10.420
argue this too so let's say they break into a civilian population where there's no front line
04:13:15.220
there's no uh defending force they're going to dispatch the men who could potentially uh put up
04:13:22.340
a resistance so if there's any men in the community of fighting age that potentially have access to
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firearms they're going to dispatch the men first then they might choose to you know i don't know what
04:13:34.740
the numbers are when it comes to the frequency of essay let me ask you a question though okay so let's
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say a hundred thousand men die and then ten thousand women get essayed which is worse you've said this
04:13:47.540
before cool we're having the conversation again which is worse i mean sure the men just by pure volume
04:13:56.660
well what's your actual answer by volume the men okay what if it's a hundred thousand to a hundred
04:14:05.140
thousand which is worse um i would say when what about fifty thousand to a hundred thousand fifty
04:14:13.380
thousand essays i can't give like a determining number based on these like these okay so what if that
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is the proportion per hundred thousand men that die there's ten thousand women that get essayed what
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if that's the case it's also dependent on the kids it's dependent on the family members there's
04:14:27.620
a lot of like actual proponents based off of these numbers right okay and so i would not be able to
04:14:37.140
give you an answer unless you tell me the actual statistics let's say that's the let's say those are
04:14:41.380
the numbers well i'm telling you i can't say that regarding do you believe that those men that die
04:14:49.220
are going to have an afterlife or they're just totally gone after they die what does that have to do with
04:14:53.460
anything i think that has to do a lot like because if i'm just no no if i'm just gonna die and nothing
04:14:59.780
matters i don't give a shit about dying all right that's totally irrelevant
04:15:09.540
um um well no if i'm gonna am i would i rather get assaulted or would i rather go to heaven
04:15:16.660
like it depends if you're religious and how what you feel about the afterlife 100 wait okay fine
04:15:22.900
it begs the question it begs the question then so would you rather be essayed or killed i'd rather
04:15:30.500
be killed me too no shot really well it depends if i'm getting r worded killed really yes and no
04:15:39.940
absolutely not well you'd rather get like no i don't want to die i don't okay yeah uh essay murder me
04:15:48.580
baby baby i don't know what you'd say uh i would rather get essayed but you said essayed different
04:15:56.180
answer yes sam i don't want to die we have to fight i'd rather look they're both terrible they're both
04:16:01.860
terrible it could be traumatizing absolutely but uh okay so if that's the case then so you view essays worse
04:16:14.180
than death dependent on what kind of essay okay that's why i said that's why i said r worded yes
04:16:24.980
well then i could just make the same argument for death then there's easy ways to die and there's
04:16:30.020
fucking terrible because at the end because when you die at the end of death there's nothing when you
04:16:35.300
when you die and after you get essayed there's everything the essay ends yeah you have trauma
04:16:41.140
you have to live the rest of your life you don't have to live the rest of your life after you die
04:16:44.900
that's a fair point but if that were if that were a good argument for like essay being worse then why
04:16:52.100
hasn't everyone who's been essayed just kill themselves they've tried to because because after you get
04:16:58.260
essayed in the moment you feel like i would rather die in the moment you feel like i don't want to be
04:17:05.860
here i don't want to experience this this is horrible this is awful i'd rather disappear i hate every
04:17:11.940
second of this but you can't do anything about it so i have a question for you then if you're married
04:17:20.420
since you like to make this argument of what about the family though uh if you were essayed who's the
04:17:26.180
primary victim if you get if if excuse me if a woman gets essayed the woman or the husband
04:17:33.220
i mean it's to wait so what do you mean whoever gets dead and then i'm essayed who's okay who's
04:17:40.580
the primary victim if you if a woman gets essayed the woman or the husband if she has a husband
04:17:46.980
let's assume she has a husband okay what's am i the only one getting essayed who are just the woman
04:17:53.220
gets essayed is the husband of the victim or is the woman the victim who's the woman obviously the
04:17:59.300
woman yes yeah oh but it's the husband it's going to be hard for the husband yes no you seem confused
04:18:06.980
he's using this argument because you guys are saying that women are the primary victims of war
04:18:11.700
because they're having to lose their husbands trying to turn your argument so he's trying to turn it
04:18:14.740
around well no it's in the time period of like 1945 it is predominantly there was males working
04:18:22.740
it working and it's predominantly females at home so it's not only like the males dying and the women
04:18:29.540
like yes war crimes are terrible for the one but it's also i'm not gonna let you get away with this
04:18:33.140
you're shifting the goalposts here we were talking about the ukraine war okay sure okay oh sorry i got
04:18:39.860
excited because you guys are fighting go ahead yeah no i'm asking yeah keep going hold on you
04:18:44.580
haven't even engaged with the situation i've just given you i did look at her she's engaged okay you're
04:18:49.620
telling me about the 1943 world 45 and in 1945 and men worked and women i know no predominantly men
04:18:59.700
worked women didn't right okay back at that time and well in the the preface of your argument
04:19:07.860
it was more that you said okay a woman got essayed right and so i my claim was that if a man dies it's
04:19:19.300
harder on the woman for the economy as well right the economy as a whole as well do you understand
04:19:27.300
because women weren't working at the time that can you ask me what are you talking about women were
04:19:32.340
during world war ii women were absolutely working not as much as the men in the no that was like rosie
04:19:37.700
the riveter but they were working because all the men went to war no yeah exactly so but if like
04:19:42.260
a majority of men died they had to pick up a lot of jobs and things like that you can and we could
04:19:48.180
many many articles based on this so what's your argument i mean that sucks but like going to work
04:19:52.500
versus dying i feel like like i hate i hate work as much as the next guy you speaking for yourself
04:19:59.860
because dying might sound a little chill all right well that that's a different so what's the
04:20:05.860
question what's the actual argument well this was another another claim with like why
04:20:13.460
like the victimization and things like that but i don't i don't get your original
04:20:17.380
if a woman got essayed and she's married and he's in the household and he's the victim right i don't get
04:20:23.300
that no that's insane no he's not saying that he's a victim it'd be insane to say that he's the
04:20:28.340
victim yeah that's what i'm saying that it's insane to say that the woman's the victim
04:20:32.820
it's not insane to say he's not the victim at all but he's not the primary victim wait can i
04:20:36.980
ask you to say the woman's the way can i not be the primary you wouldn't be that's all he's
04:20:41.220
that's all he's saying wait i have to i'm confused can i ask a question so if i'm in my house and
04:20:45.540
a man breaks into my house and he essays me am i not the primary victim that's literally
04:20:50.020
okay no i was confirming no i was confirming imagine how crazy you would think i was if i
04:20:56.660
said no the woman's not the primary victim yeah it's the no no i agree with you the husband is
04:21:03.620
i agree with you i i definitely agree with you i was just confirming with
04:21:07.940
what if we went to another topic what if both people are still victims i've always said this
04:21:16.580
no when i no no but the people the people around you are still victims i literally asked you the
04:21:21.780
question who's the primary victim of war men or women you said women you didn't say both
04:21:26.820
i said the first time you want to roll back wanted to say both i always wanted to say both
04:21:31.540
but this is the third time you've asked me on this podcast is it not both everybody everybody is
04:21:38.020
a victim when it comes to war but when i'm asking you who's the primary victim i can't say both yeah
04:21:44.660
i can now no you can't okay because the question is who is the primary victim of war and you continually
04:21:52.420
pick women yes and you make arguments for women so i don't know why you're trying to walk back
04:21:57.620
your position here i'm not at all how am i walking back my business i said day one that i
04:22:03.140
think everyone on the planet earth is a victim and then you said you have to pick one so i said okay
04:22:07.540
sure women because of war crimes and other factors that's exactly what we're talking about
04:22:13.540
yeah so i don't what where are we now where we are where we are at now is that we we understand
04:22:20.660
that men are the primary victims of war but women suffer a lot okay sure yeah by going yes
04:22:26.180
agreed to agree with that no no but see that's exactly okay no kirby you agree that is what we
04:22:31.540
that is because i've never agreed okay so you disagree with men are the primary victims of war
04:22:38.260
she doesn't disagree with that men yes oh no that is precisely what we are arguing wait hold on if i
04:22:45.860
got drafted to the front line would i get drafted and put on the front lines that would be real
04:22:49.940
no you can't even you can't be drafted that's what i'm saying you're from canada too oh yeah
04:23:00.020
not because you're a woman because you're canadian conversation i'm sorry here we're
04:23:03.540
gonna read a couple of chats uh abigail are you able to see it or no this is a good breakup
04:23:08.420
oh no i can't if you haven't you can read it go ahead can i read it can i read it out loud just
04:23:16.260
let her read if you have in only fans you're a waste of space you're lazy you're you disrespect
04:23:22.180
yourself and men and you disrespect the veterans who died to give you the freedom to live like the
04:23:27.060
degenerates you are i'm canadian all right we have this one go ahead wow your girlfriend leaves you and
04:23:34.340
bangs your friend while you're away all your friends move on and your life changes without you
04:23:38.420
it blows they don't draft women it's not all about death think okay cool thank you forced peach thank
04:23:45.300
you mean a lot to me yeah we have law paladins coming in here in just a bit thank you for speech
04:23:51.540
appreciate it there's not a lot going on b is not red pill red pill would realize that women are
04:23:56.340
incapable of having empathy for weak men and weak men lose in war winners come home and reproduce
04:24:01.780
old school horde before paladins existed let's go he's old school horde he's talking about world
04:24:08.660
of warcraft hold on before pallies are existed okay i know pallies came around level 70 or wherever
04:24:14.500
the fuck if death isn't as big of a deal and if you die it's just over is it worse for someone to just
04:24:21.780
essay someone or to essay them and murder them and i'd rather well we already answered this yeah we
04:24:26.900
already talked about this right yeah if you die it's just over hmm durin dolls thank you man
04:24:33.460
appreciate it i obviously uh must have read your thing before i asked the question we have that uh
04:24:44.980
can you read this one yeah i probably have not paid attention but studying the western front taking
04:24:49.380
world war ii for example aerial bombing was indiscriminate uh but i can go more in detail
04:24:56.900
in other conflicts however not sure what you're trying to prove depending on the time period you
04:25:01.380
need to study context okay yeah a lot of civilian casualties in uh world war ii thank you robert tanner
04:25:11.140
appreciate it although i mean i would argue in pretty much every single war that's ever occurred
04:25:15.540
every single war even wars i don't even know about i can confidently state that men
04:25:21.860
are and have been the primary victims of war more what casualties yes ergo men are the primary
04:25:36.260
okay it's it's crazy to me that you just haven't been convinced on this
04:25:42.980
i don't even know how to approach it maybe somebody in the chat knows how to uh make a
04:25:50.100
compelling enough argument for you to step out of your delusion i don't know both my parents
04:25:55.220
agreed with me so it's hard it's like yeah they yeah they got to back up their daughter but no no no
04:26:00.500
no i don't think i think before the context i said this is why you're my parents i don't think it's about
04:26:06.180
that i think it's kind of almost crazier that you said your dad was in the military for 20 years
04:26:10.900
he was and he thinks that that's almost before he knew the context of even this podcast that makes
04:26:16.180
sense though but that makes sense like it's like if you're in the military and you know you you've
04:26:20.980
died and your family is back my dad's alive my dad's alive and well i know i know but even that
04:26:30.580
but it's still like you've put your family through so much like men are more resilient than women are
04:26:34.820
they not disagree i don't know you don't think men are more resilient than women how would that how
04:26:39.700
would that be relevant resilience how would it be in comparison to war who cares how would it be
04:26:46.580
relevant resilience is a major aspect of war resilience yeah but how would it be relevant
04:26:54.260
if you're resilient in a war are you insane google resilience right now if you're dead what does it
04:27:01.700
matter how resilient no no but if you live but if you live the resilience the resilience the
04:27:08.820
resilience what about the resilience what about the resilience does anybody know about the resilience
04:27:15.540
it's crazy all right we're gonna we're gonna move it on i guess oh we have to do man versus bear
04:27:20.260
yes yes fun i like this story she likes do you did you take something are you are you good no no
04:27:28.020
sorry i'm just i'm just a girl are you on meth i'm just a girl i'm just a girl i'm just a girl in
04:27:34.180
the world starting with you if i had to pick the words hold on hold on hold on would you rather come
04:27:38.660
across a random man or a random bear in the woods okay random as i pick man you're shocked i know
04:27:44.580
man man pandorian answer the question that's what i said bear i don't know pandorian
04:27:55.940
just answer the question is that that's not what i said she's she's picking that's a bear okay so
04:28:01.140
say bear so i said pandorian say bear can i not have a specific pandorian please say something
04:28:07.460
anything i cannot have a specific man hold on hold on hold on you don't know what a pandorian
04:28:12.980
is it's literally yeah yeah it's a literally literally a video game character it's not real
04:28:19.780
life okay if i had to truly cool bear he's a cool bear and he'd treat me nice just answer the
04:28:25.220
fucking question okay i'll pick a bear i'll pick a bear god damn okay man man because you're being a
04:28:31.620
retard that's why can you say that i just did i really hate this question but man you said man
04:28:38.340
yeah man yeah man man okay all right everyone said man well i okay why bear why bear because the
04:28:46.740
worst thing that a man could do to me doesn't compare to the worst thing that a bear could do
04:28:50.020
to me but you're like wait then you should have picked a random no no no no a bear could a bear
04:28:56.100
a bear would eat me alive a man could you know tie me up a man could also help but you're in the
04:29:01.380
woods though yeah he could bring me back to his house okay so what percent what percentage of men
04:29:07.540
do you think would well like one percent so not even i feel like every single bear would probably
04:29:12.900
try to eat you no no that's not true that's not true i've been around a lot of bears that's not true
04:29:18.660
bears tend to run away i'm not trying to take that chance no bears tend to run away bears i still
04:29:25.060
don't want to take that chance yeah you don't have to i don't want to i'm just saying this is a
04:29:28.020
reality i'm not i don't really want to argue the bear thing you want to argue the bear thing because
04:29:32.180
you know i'm so right no did you like drink some liquor back there or something you were like i've
04:29:38.340
never done anything julie move on hold on yeah click it no find it brian find it too late now all
04:29:48.180
right moving on to our next notes here we have uh let's see uh hold on so you're uh christian
04:29:59.860
what are you doing there's i scratched my arm i'm wiping it off is that allowed sorry she's bleeding
04:30:06.100
yeah yeah i scratched my arm for a second i know i got a i got a sun i got a sunburn uh you're a christian
04:30:12.180
mormon correct yeah i'm lds lds okay you said you're conservative you have your pronouns in your
04:30:17.860
bio though i thought that was interesting yeah i had a it's because you have like my business
04:30:23.780
thing on there and a lot of clients kept asking me so i just kind of felt like i had to put it in there
04:30:28.660
okay uh you said you're 100 trad not feminist and you said you live out your life through your clients
04:30:34.820
who are ultimately living what they are living out what they like to tell me their whole phase
04:30:47.220
and do you want me to go into yeah yeah elaborate elaborate a bit oh sorry um they told me a few
04:30:53.620
things they told me a few fetishes some men have one of them told me they have they had an ex who had
04:30:59.140
an ankle biting fetish and then another one told me that she was dating a guy who literally within a
04:31:09.460
month of dating kind of confessed that he liked eating stuff off of her but specifically kfc
04:31:16.180
that sounds lit what does that have to do with a whole phase yeah that's crazy
04:31:20.980
specifically okay you guys don't like chicken fries no i'm not saying that that's part of the
04:31:25.460
whole phase but i'm just saying like obviously i'm not just talking about it's just funny like
04:31:29.380
hearing the stories from them it's just like interesting hearing that kind of stuff because
04:31:33.460
i wouldn't do that but all right and you said that you're you know you're married you have a husband
04:31:38.180
been together for 10 years you paid for the first date without hesitation yeah i paid for us for about
04:31:45.860
two to three years into our relationship for everything until he got his first job until he got his first
04:31:50.820
job you got this don't do it babe don't do it all right you said your parents have a pretty interesting
04:31:57.540
story yeah um so basically my mom and dad were clubbers when they were younger and my dad invited
04:32:04.980
my mom back to his apartment and try to make a move on her she got grossed out and walked out literally
04:32:11.460
maybe about a year later they ended up meeting back up again not realizing that that's who they were
04:32:16.900
and as my as my mom was like pregnant with me already they drove past my dad's old condo and she
04:32:24.820
said oh my god it was so weird i i dated a guy who was who lived in that condo and he tried to make a
04:32:30.580
move on me and he's like i dated a girl who walked out on me because i made a move on her and then they
04:32:36.100
realized that that's who they were they knew each other from that okay and you wanted to speak on i think
04:32:42.580
we talked a little bit already who makes the first move in the dating process yeah i mean the only
04:32:47.460
thing is that like for me it genuinely worked like i and i've asked my husband this before i never
04:32:53.060
looked down on him for not having a job in fact like that's why two to three years into it i was
04:32:57.780
strictly paying for everything i didn't think it mattered i was more interested in the personality
04:33:02.260
the type of person he was things like that and i ended up being granted with a provider who took care
04:33:06.900
of me for the rest of pretty much where we're at right now and he tells me it's because you know
04:33:12.580
i essentially showed that like i didn't care about the materialistic part of it i genuinely cared
04:33:18.740
about his personality so do you do you guys really like everyone at the table do you really like would
04:33:24.420
you genuinely prefer a man that just paid all of your bills no hell yeah yes that's exactly what
04:33:31.540
you want you want you want every fucking every bill sorry who's paying your bills just out of
04:33:36.500
curiosity if we're gonna have the me dog who do you think is subscribing to your oh yeah me i'm not
04:33:41.700
even trying to be enough it's one thing it's one thing if a couple men subscribe it's another thing
04:33:48.580
if it's a lot of men but like if you were gonna get into a relationship with a man would you be like
04:33:53.300
you know i can't date this man unless you know depends on the situation i think for most is that like
04:33:58.660
one one round at the table would you be like you know if he can't pay my rent i can't date him would
04:34:04.500
you run at the table i've never had a man pay my my rent okay you um it wouldn't be a deal breaker if
04:34:11.780
he couldn't provide fully it wouldn't be a deal breaker whatsoever okay yeah it would be sick but i
04:34:18.980
can pay my own bills okay your turn depends on what life stage we're at yeah yeah do you prefer that
04:34:25.380
do you prefer when a man pays your rent so you ask three different questions
04:34:29.940
i'm a fool i'm just a fool baby question just a girl do you prefer when a man can just pay your rent
04:34:36.660
like of course of course it's perfect yeah of course like but if you do do you
04:34:42.580
let me read let me actually your phrase do you prefer like you wouldn't date a man unless he
04:34:46.900
actually could pay for your rent like you're like i'm not going to do this unless you're willing to
04:34:58.740
i wish you would have been like yes absolutely get out of here well there are there are a lot of
04:35:03.540
women that are like i wouldn't well that can't be anyway i don't think that should be like the
04:35:07.460
primary reason you're with someone is just because you can pay your bills i feel like there's other
04:35:11.540
qualities yeah but there are a lot of women that are like i'm not engaging in this relationship unless
04:35:16.900
i get my rent paid hold on are you talking about me you are are you talking about she just said you
04:35:25.220
yeah we just went back and forth whatever the hell that was if i don't yap who who else will yap
04:35:30.660
probably anyone else yeah anyone okay we're not yapping because you are i'll sit back
04:35:37.780
i'll fix that how did that even happen wasn't me can someone yeah i was like
04:35:42.180
where's the yappinator because it ain't me i'm cut well i wish i'm cut somebody yap oh use that
04:35:50.180
five hundred dollars to mute her mic of course yeah you had to be told i just came up with it
04:35:56.740
on the spot he's asking okay let's go around yeah i came up with it on the spot my definition of
04:36:01.940
feminism feminism is equity not equality so equity as in fairness that's not equality equality is
04:36:08.660
different you you uh you acknowledge the differences in gender equity as in fairness
04:36:13.300
and opportunity and things like that that's my um i don't personally like describe myself as a feminist
04:36:22.980
not a feminist my feminism means coming up with your questions on the spot no julie just keep going
04:36:30.340
ignore it ignore it keep going i'm thinking like are you a feminist yes or no oh like when i actually yes
04:36:36.580
yes yes or no please please yeah i mean probably but like yeah keep going but also no no and another
04:36:44.980
thing uh if we're saying like feminism like that little trademark i would say no definitely not i would
04:36:51.540
say the most recent variation of feminism probably not but i would agree with kirby's definition of
04:36:56.900
feminism second wave third wave don't stop please thank you robert you don't i'm sorry i was just asking no
04:37:04.180
what are we going around no i'm not a feminist did you yeah oh so it was just you i think you
04:37:13.540
and i think maybe yeah and like ish ish so what what was your definition i said equity over equality
04:37:20.420
so it's equity as in fair fair treatment but um equality is different to me because it's um not
04:37:26.820
recognizing the differences between like women uh women and men right so like for example we can bring
04:37:32.820
up the olympics talk i don't think women and men should compete because i it it should be equitable
04:37:38.260
not like equal because like um equality would be men and women doesn't equity mean that you're
04:37:43.860
trying to get equal outcomes no no equity means fairness so that's why equity means you get this
04:37:49.780
you get a a different uh like so i need a taller ladder anyone else hold on show your mouth i need a
04:37:59.060
taller ladder to look over the fence so equity means you you get the things you need to look
04:38:03.780
over the fence so you want someone to get you at the beginning to mute someone's mic for 10 minutes
04:38:08.500
i think we know who has she been i think we know who bro you know what she's my friend
04:38:13.620
what mic number is that what mic number is that no no nick no do we put it down please nick that's a
04:38:23.060
10 minute mute please yo pico steins thank you for that i got the um you to mic just put it on the
04:38:31.540
table it'll still be muted are you saying that you think that women need special treatment so that the
04:38:39.060
outcome so they can play on an equal level equal no you misunderstood of course um
04:38:45.300
of course so the misunderstanding is uh for example in like athletic athletic terms in
04:38:52.660
the terms of the olympics yes men out compete women every time and that's why when i say equitable it
04:38:57.620
should be in fairness of you acknowledge the differences in the genders right and so that's
04:39:02.020
why women should be if you're saying to make it equitable wouldn't that mean that then you would
04:39:06.340
have women start you know you would take on the same level but you would like give women an unfair
04:39:10.660
advantage to no equitable is fairness yeah that's why i'm saying do you mean like equitable means
04:39:15.220
like they have their own league and it's only women because men would kind of dominate because
04:39:19.140
they're built differently do you want to like the olympics because i'm on your side yeah that's not
04:39:23.540
okay female male right there's two categories like i'm not all for you know that one swimmer who's like
04:39:28.900
oh i really suck in the men's division let me just dominate all these women women should compete
04:39:32.820
against each other in said olympic sport like i think that's sort of a bad example in some form
04:39:37.220
of feminism well but they are saying that and that's the same with like even actors and actresses
04:39:41.860
they're saying there there should be a general categories of acting rather that we you call
04:39:46.500
everyone actor and i i don't agree with that because it kind of also defeats the purpose there is going
04:39:51.700
to be more of like you can see a shift in general with like let's say for one year more more act more
04:39:59.140
males win like the acting category and it's like it's kind of like reverse you still want to give
04:40:03.940
like equal opportunity in the sense so where do you think women lack yeah no offense i don't maybe
04:40:09.140
apparently i'm the one who misunderstands stuff i don't really get what you're saying so maybe to
04:40:12.260
make it pragmatic where do women not have equal opportunity like in practice with men compared to
04:40:18.580
men rather i i'm not saying they don't even it's equal opportunity that's like if both resumes are
04:40:25.300
completely the same for example in a job that they're both very qualified for like let's say
04:40:30.180
marketing or something like that if resumes are you can't talk for 10 minutes um if both resumes
04:40:37.220
are exactly the same they should have equal treatment and they do there's like laws now saying
04:40:43.780
you can't discriminate against women so like it was different back then you're like oh yeah you can
04:40:46.980
not hire she's a woman some people don't support that if it's exactly who doesn't think that if
04:40:52.980
you what do you mean who doesn't who do you who do you mean there are some like females that still
04:40:58.660
believe that like that's my terms of my my definition my understanding of how i want to perceive feminism
04:41:09.460
you said a whole bunch of nothing goes to the civil warship okay okay okay so if you're so i don't
04:41:15.620
understand you're saying you're a feminist because there's if there's a two resumes a man and a woman they
04:41:20.340
have the same qualifications that they should both be entitled to get the job yes which we establish
04:41:27.140
that there is existing legislation yes and codified laws that say that is the case yeah i did so i
04:41:33.700
support and i asked you where is there a lack of equal opportunity or an attitude that is why you justify
04:41:43.700
being a feminist like where is i mean yeah because you can see even in cases like in 2017 for example
04:41:51.060
um there was a case in even the movie industry there's like uh the top grossing films of the years
04:41:58.580
30 30 of the top grossing films had no females in like the back end of things
04:42:04.500
like in itself so so what do you mean so it's more of like the process of the wnba critique it's
04:42:10.180
because people aren't watching it so you're not going to get fairly compensated if people aren't
04:42:15.140
watching your movie it's the it's the back end of the filming industry what do you mean they're not
04:42:19.220
watching the females are not in the front ends they're even the back end of production so 2000
04:42:24.340
there's nothing preventing women from starring in movies no it's not there's also nothing preventing them
04:42:30.740
from working behind the scenes there is because they're hiring less preventing them actually
04:42:35.060
there's then they would get sued and there's actually yeah there might just be less women
04:42:40.820
applying well i can give you another example 2017 was the kind of like the front run of the me too
04:42:47.220
movement because the big harvey weinstein incident wait wait hold on let's go back to the let's go back
04:42:52.020
to the movie thing yeah so okay frequently women are paid less in sporting for example like basketball
04:42:58.820
players sure do you object to female basketball players being paid less than their male counterparts
04:43:05.060
i think same job i think sporting is a really weird and interesting um category because it's not just
04:43:13.860
about the actual industry it's actual it's also about the individual players for for example like
04:43:18.980
attraction like popularity of each individual player it deems how much they get paid right and how good
04:43:24.820
they are oh that as well but like you can even like you can argue with women's soccer is way worse
04:43:30.500
let's let's say you want to argue that but alex morgan got paid crazy numbers because she was also a
04:43:36.260
very beautiful soccer player she was a crazy great at the sport but let's say you don't like watching
04:43:40.900
women's soccer but you also got paid tons of money for endorsements okay yeah brand endorsements
04:43:45.620
things like that answer the question so okay let's just let's just assume here that women do get paid
04:43:51.140
less than men in sporting so soccer basketball i trying to think of any other you know professional
04:43:58.740
sports tennis uh tennis actually i think they've well i have a question is there like a don't think
04:44:04.740
it like pay the same i think they is it like how do you do it is it like standard like women's team
04:44:09.940
make 30 men's team make 30 but men generate more revenue so it's a higher 30 because the total number
04:44:15.940
is bigger or is it like okay so but do you okay for example let's just use the basketball example
04:44:20.980
do you object to female basketball players being paid less than male basketball players
04:44:26.580
i want to at least acknowledge that they should at least play on the same courts right so there there
04:44:33.540
there is especially in soccer i i mostly know about soccer because i grew up playing soccer they had to
04:44:40.260
play on turf fields for example which everyone in soccer knows that those are way worse they should at
04:44:45.220
least get women have to play on turf fields and back when i played when i back when i watched
04:44:50.260
high school no no no okay no no it's uh okay why don't you answer the actual question though
04:44:56.660
should they get paid we're talking about pay yeah i don't know why you're bringing up turf fields
04:45:01.220
and i asked you about basketball not soccer it's like one okay never mind yeah um
04:45:06.740
no i don't think they should get paid the same if if they don't equity then so you're not in
04:45:11.540
favor of that no that's not that's not necessarily true because i said fairness so if if one is
04:45:16.100
generating way more income then that's equity not equality well i guess well yeah you have to
04:45:21.540
define what would that look like very different quality and equity there equality would be like
04:45:27.620
both are the same they get paid the same equity is fairness so one generates way more revenue they
04:45:32.500
get paid more that's equity over how is that but then why did you have such an issue with movies that
04:45:38.580
are getting less views making less no they're not getting less views that was my whole point
04:45:43.700
they were there's two there's like so what my point was you said you we were talking about the how are
04:45:50.340
women getting less opportunity and i told you the top grossing films of 2017 30 of those films had no
04:45:56.420
women in the back of the question taylor so uh taylor swift i think is earns more than probably 99 of
04:46:04.180
male musicians what do you say to that it's fine why does she earn more good for her well that's not
04:46:11.220
fair to the 99 of male musicians who make less than she generates revenue based off like sales and
04:46:17.140
things like that yes that was my well no that was my point with uh those movies generate revenue
04:46:22.260
i said back end i didn't say front end i keep saying back in front like same okay so it's the people
04:46:28.500
working the cameras versus the people what do you mean back end back end of movies are the director
04:46:32.980
producers um cinematographers and everything like yeah she's saying you are cherry picking like first
04:46:39.060
of all the year 2017 it's like of all the movies that were produced it's the top 30 it's not the
04:46:45.220
front end actors it's the people who are in the back like it's not like like i asked you for your
04:46:49.540
like i would think that it would come pretty easily to your head like why you'd be a feminist why you
04:46:53.460
think there's lack of equal opportunity in the united states i never said and the best you can give is
04:46:58.660
like well in this one year like a third of movies where women were like not working the cameras they
04:47:04.580
uh didn't get a lot of views so that's why i'm a feminist like i think that's very that's very nice
04:47:10.340
that you said that but you're still misunderstanding what i was coming across i said respectfully i'm
04:47:16.260
i'm really trying but i died maybe it's you said why are you a feminist i said because of equity i
04:47:20.980
would want to be such a buzzword you can't just say because of equity yeah but and they're like
04:47:26.100
because equity and equity is what are you confused about because you're saying like oh then give me
04:47:30.100
example how we're not equitable and i'm not saying we're not equitable like there are but if you said
04:47:34.020
we need you're a feminist because you need equity and then you just said we're not equitable like
04:47:38.580
no i didn't say that that's what again no i said the basketball analogy was a good one wait
04:47:43.940
actually nick you can pull that thing up that you sent me nick this is an article women fronted films
04:47:50.100
oh but like got nominated less overall for like best categories i think it was something like
04:47:56.980
that well you referenced the year 2017 so make it bigger women fronted films are top three highest
04:48:05.380
grossing movies of 2017 uh last jedi beauty and the beast and wonder woman topped north america's box
04:48:13.300
office so even looking up the precise year that you provided actually in the year you provided
04:48:20.020
this is front end i keep the poor back end but how does that justify you being a feminist so okay so
04:48:28.180
i didn't justify this of being being i'm telling you when you ask me how is it unequal opportunity i told
04:48:34.100
you that in even these movies and these categories women are not being hired that was my whole point that
04:48:39.700
was but what you're saying women not being hired really doesn't correlate to what you are talking
04:48:45.940
about you're talking about highest grossing films and film popularity there's nothing in what you're
04:48:51.060
saying that's like there's a systemic campaign that studios are waging to not hire women it was it's
04:48:57.780
kind sorry on on the back end and not the front end only on the back end well it correlates in the
04:49:03.140
sense because the 2017 like i was saying was the actual the year of the me too movement and this this
04:49:09.380
this you're all over the place right now i'm just you're all over the place well it was the
04:49:15.620
direct shift between 2017 people's acknowledgement of that women aren't being hired in the movie
04:49:21.460
industry right i don't really think that you've proven that and i don't really think that's true
04:49:27.140
and i don't really think the me too movement was about women not being hired in the industry it's about
04:49:30.980
their treatment in the industry because they were being hired and they were getting treated poorly
04:49:36.180
because they had jobs within the industry the me too movement couldn't have happened if women
04:49:39.860
didn't have jobs in the industry i mean there's a direct correlation after after the me too
04:49:44.580
movement of the hiring of women i don't understand the actual argument though i also don't know if
04:49:48.980
i grant like like okay say in really cushy hollywood jobs on the back end they're not hiring female
04:49:58.580
directors for again i don't really even know the reason why how does that prove that like there's
04:50:05.300
not equal opportunity for women it's like the opportunity for women when i said like i i talked
04:50:11.220
about the top grossing films when i said 30 of like these back end top films had no women i'm not
04:50:17.540
saying even in the category of maybe women don't want to do that that's just not true it's like okay
04:50:25.780
let's look at early childhood education women make up the majority of jobs there women make up
04:50:30.180
the majority of jobs in nursing so you could flip that logic on your head and say well that's sexist
04:50:34.900
because there's not men and men would want to do it because hypothetically men would want to do it
04:50:38.580
they hire more women in those job categories because more women are applying yeah wait wait
04:50:43.300
just to be clear so it's sexist if more women get hired in a job field and it's also sexist if too
04:50:50.500
few women get hired in the job field no that's not what i said at all but you said your issue is that
04:50:57.620
not enough women are being hired on the very niche back end of studios but you don't find issue with a
04:51:04.580
a majority overwhelming majority of women being hired for jobs like nursing and early childhood
04:51:10.420
education no it's because oh women a lot of times are more like uh the general gender biases are
04:51:19.060
are associated women with these jobs right so like well i don't know gender biases is a pejorative
04:51:24.340
connotation i would say it's just your innate biology women have always empirically been drawn to more
04:51:30.020
that's your that's your opinion it's not really it's biological fact and statistics and studies
04:51:36.420
and i hate studies but it it shows that empirical data shows that women have always gravitated towards
04:51:41.380
nursing and early childhood education as opposed to say oil rigs and hardcore machinery work which
04:51:47.540
by the way if we bring up deaths again workplace deaths are like 80 upwards of 80 percent if not 90
04:51:53.540
percent men over fourth i think every year it's like nearly 5 000 women it's like 400 just to bring
04:51:59.140
up deaths but that aside i just don't really understand so your issue that you are resting
04:52:04.180
your case for feminism on again i asked you like give me your best shot as to why you're a feminist and
04:52:09.620
the best you could give me is say that you said i thought it was a better no no she said what is our
04:52:14.420
unequal what's the unequal opportunity that's what you said okay first of all you gave an example that
04:52:19.460
was false because we just said that the 2017 that's the actresses that's the actresses okay
04:52:24.180
so why does back-end film production matter more than front-end male and female lawyer what if one
04:52:29.060
makes less i feel like that would have been a way simpler argument i'm just curious why your metric
04:52:32.900
for why there's you there's a lack of equal opportunity you said why is there a lack of you said
04:52:38.340
why is there a lack of fairness i gave you an example of something that has a lack of fairness
04:52:42.660
and then you're like oh what's that what's what's your what's your point of feminism your example was
04:52:47.140
in one year the top 30 highest grossing movies only on the back end didn't have women and that's
04:52:57.220
so like niche and then we just showed you that actually the top three grossing films had women
04:53:02.900
on the front end and i guarantee you if you look in 2017 no percentage of women who are holding
04:53:08.340
frankly percentage of women who are getting college degrees and probably getting preferential
04:53:12.180
financial treatment from banks in terms of loans and women in business programs certainly outnumbers
04:53:16.500
men so i just because you gave me one random statistic which i don't even know if it's actually
04:53:21.220
true that doesn't negate or support your point like that's just that's so irrelevant it's like
04:53:27.140
a drop it's relevant to what you were asking me my general opinion of like oh why do you think
04:53:32.740
women have unequal opportunities i told you so what societal forces are preventing women from working
04:53:39.220
only on the back end in film in that case it's sexism that was my whole point it's sex so how
04:53:46.500
does that work a lot of women want to work as like transportation coordinators it's like a lot of like
04:53:50.500
manual labor so you're telling me that the back end i'm talking about is not transportation coordinators
04:53:56.740
it's it is the directors it is producers it is like the apex jobs like the desirable jobs
04:54:04.660
well i mean it's something yeah like i said it's a co-producers things like that so you think that
04:54:09.060
like people are in the c-suite executive like paramount studios they're like oh wow this candidate looks
04:54:15.140
awesome they produce all these cool films they have this this and that oh she's a woman so we're not
04:54:21.220
going to hire her like you think that's realistically what's happening and conversely while you're focusing
04:54:25.460
and you're putting the spotlight on very high paying high status cushy jobs again only on the
04:54:29.540
back end not the front end what about the fact that i would argue that most of the i would say
04:54:33.940
low end low status jobs just from sort of a finding like an income perspective and just not a very
04:54:39.300
glamorous lifestyle right people who are working machinery paving the road stuff that they don't
04:54:43.380
get any thanks for any gratitude overwhelmingly majority men like i said overwhelming majority workplace
04:54:48.980
deaths are men so you're hyper focusing fixating on the fact that like these really cushy jobs women
04:54:54.180
aren't getting but the inverse of that is that overwhelmingly men are taking up the bottom rung
04:54:58.660
of jobs but again i gave you one example right so there's many many examples so then give another
04:55:07.460
one free julie for example like i i bring this up a lot the tech industry for example this startup
04:55:13.460
industry a lot of times majority are men being hired not women do we know the majority of who's
04:55:19.300
supplying really wait hold on i don't know you mean like software engineers no you mean what a
04:55:25.300
tech industry a tech that's made up of like coders it's like software engineers so the tech industry
04:55:31.300
can be any any and i think that's actually like aerospace engineers like you said um but that's a
04:55:37.940
particularly bad example because when they do studies majority of people even in college are
04:55:43.620
when societies become more egalitarian particularly i'm talking nordic countries again i don't like
04:55:51.540
studies but when you go through them they've actually found that the more egalitarian the
04:55:55.780
more quote-unquote liberal society becomes the less women that there are who get involved in stem
04:56:01.220
fields and the more that they naturally gravitate towards what i would argue they're biologically
04:56:05.140
inclined and wired to want to do which is like nursing early childhood education so the stem argument
04:56:10.580
is is particularly i think falls falls flat is particularly bad but even if you take a step
04:56:15.620
back i don't really even think that that's true if you look at what's going on in silicon valley
04:56:20.340
right now or any of these startup companies and frankly i think startups are a particularly bad
04:56:23.860
example because that industry is pretty cutthroat and that you're raising money and you either
04:56:29.140
make it work or you don't there's not really room for like dei hiring style practices like if you
04:56:34.100
suck at your job you suck at your job but in all of those big corporations they are prioritizing
04:56:40.100
hiring women they want i mean have you heard yeah because all stem all the statistics are if you
04:56:45.780
have diversity inclusion you you have better innovation every study can show you that if you
04:56:53.460
have over 30 percent like um mixed executive team you're usually it's more successful right
04:56:59.860
that is true which i don't necessarily think first of all every show you're talking about dei if you
04:57:05.060
have diversity who every patient who paid for those studies yeah the united nations a bunch of
04:57:10.900
a bunch of like companies there's tons of people who show this so you think that just because like
04:57:16.100
there's a black person a white person and a brown person in a room that you're going to have better
04:57:19.060
outcomes even if you you you yes because you have different you have different markets you have
04:57:22.980
different okay point of views different wait wait wait can i ask you a question when it comes to math
04:57:27.460
do you think that like like top level like math mathematicians like a black mathematician and a
04:57:33.220
white mathematician like they're going to come to like better conclusions because one's black
04:57:37.700
didn't you just hear what i said answer the question answer the question answer the question
04:57:41.860
yes i do i genuinely do oh well that's not really how that's not how math works though it's objective
04:57:47.540
no if they can't if they can't solve that's not how math works if they can't solve
04:57:52.580
something if they can't solve something they all have different point of views of what to look at
04:57:56.340
even if i take you even if i take you at your word right and say that this mythical you know
04:58:01.140
unicorn that is diversity is so great for the workplace okay say it's true if all these
04:58:06.500
corporations and studios and whatnot which are ostensibly i'm sure you'd probably agree motivated
04:58:11.300
by profit right and wanting to to produce returns and there's this magical strategy that is going to
04:58:16.900
allow them to increase their profits tenfold because apparently a black mathematician is is
04:58:21.460
the key to all their financial woes or hiring a female doctor or whatever is going to fix all the
04:58:27.220
problems why would they then be sitting in the boardroom and saying oh we can't hire women oh
04:58:33.220
we can't have any women not on the front end but on the back end right isn't that sort of a dumb
04:58:37.700
approach to take to hiring it's because a lot of times with especially board of directors they have
04:58:44.420
someone they know they have someone they can influence okay but that that you literally just
04:58:48.260
said and what what is how does that even engage with what i just said there's a board of directors
04:58:52.260
where there's someone they know and they have influence she's talking what wouldn't wouldn't
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nepotism equally benefit men and women yeah like if it's just about a personal relationship not
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necessarily no so you're saying your argument is nepotism unfairly it benefits men i'm i'm saying
04:59:09.220
in the case of what we were the context of what we're talking about especially a board of directors
04:59:14.340
and hiring teams and things like that a lot of times yes nepotism is involved in like a lot of times
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the hiring of a lot of these i'm not disagreeing with you i don't know what that has to do with
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with anything it has a lot to do with a lot of this because they for example if
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but nepotism is not a gendered thing yeah well i feel like having a diverse amount of people like
04:59:36.260
in more subjective fields like marketing and movies makes sense but you can't be it can't be
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like oh we have all these different minds for like something very objective like math and coding
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but there's right answers and there's wrong answers either it works or it doesn't
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dei studies the legend studies that you're talking about they're not actually talking because
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believe me those same institutions that are putting that out i can guarantee you that they
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do not support diversity of thought i'm sure they're part of the group of people who are
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pushing political correctness and when you say diversity you're not talking about bringing
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together groups of people who disagree and having actual debate you're talking about just
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figurehead diversity poster child diversity where it's like oh this guy's black this person's
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this person's trans this person's this this person's that that doesn't yield any any results
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at all frankly i would almost argue you see why is it it's always like the roads that are collapsing
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the bridges that are collapsing those are always the ones that have the diversity programs going on
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i do have to move things on but why don't you each make a final point
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and then we'll move things on do you have a response and then natalie does the diversity claim
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is you need at least 30 percent of a more diverse team in order to actually get a solid response and
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it is a it is solid responses and it's a response that actually has like so if you're at 25 29 the
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statistic is you at least need a 30 percent team a 30 percent more diverse
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what is this statistic it's can i ask you a question would a company be considered diverse if
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there were no men in it uh no no you need diversity in all all angles oh okay oh all viewpoints all
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angles okay all right i mean do you want to did you finish your point or yeah sure okay i just think
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it's funny every time i come on the show and i ask every feminist for like one example of an actual
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grievance that they would have that would justify their rationale for being a feminist it is the most
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niche anecdotal one-off examples that is like pigeonholed to one year one subset
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of an industry that's not even the front end of actors but the back end of actors
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only in films they all tell you that that's crazy they all yeah last time last time by the way is she
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unmuted um but i just my last point on this and i think this is my always key issue with feminism
05:01:49.780
is that so many girls say they're feminists but then they're actually pressed on it they honestly don't
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know why and i think you should ask yourself why you've been so conditioned to think that you are a
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feminist why you're so adamant that you know women need to be the larger amounts of victims
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in more time than men why there's such an ingrained why you're conditioned to not be a feminist
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um you don't think you can be conditioned to not be a feminist have you ever read the news
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i can be like why am i not a feminist well i have a question like the whole women make 82 cents to a
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dollar and now it's like oh for a white man's dollar i don't know what that means but i thought it was
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more like they're choosing professions that i mean there's not really a lot of money i don't know if
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you want to get into child care or oh you're yeah you're rage quitting no i know i'm just kidding
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this is a long conversation i do have some follow-up questions for you once you're back though you can
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go ahead uh natalie could i have you read uh this one please why would any 304 give up their jobs
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making six to seven figures a year to take off their clothes on only fans to instead carry around
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a 100 pound camera for half as much money even panace 304 wouldn't do that it doesn't quite work
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like that but okay uh thank you little paladins appreciate it and then we have walshy poo if you
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can read this one brian i get back from kill tony to a goat panel drizzle drizzle sorry number eight
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number nine is most attractive um number five and number one tied for second sup nicolette baller
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as usual maddie equals goat question cut or uncut okay going around the table i guess uh do you
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prefer guy cut or uncut um i'm actually gonna say uncut i feel like that is a hot take maybe not we'll
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find out i prefer cut i don't care no preference i don't give a singular fuck i'm not gonna answer that
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question yeah same um whatever my husband is neither is a deal breaker i'm here for the same
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on the one ambivalent ambivalent okay all right thank you walshy poo uh does anybody here i mean
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we've had some of you on the show show before anybody here who's seen the show have any disagreements
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with anything anything you guys want to touch on i have a question for you go ahead because it's not
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necessarily a disagreement because i totally agree like that marriage has been completely made into
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being like this thing with the government do you agree like that marriage should be strictly within
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the church then like i'm just curious on your stance on that because i know you don't believe
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in marriage yeah i'm fine with that is it just because the government's involved and it kind of
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creates like obviously now women can really kind of screw men over so do you think like
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it should go back to being only like a church type of thing within the church
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i'm just fine the government get involved in the first place yeah i'm fine with the government gets
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involved for taxes taxes are the only reason they're they're interested yeah i was just curious yeah yeah
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i i think that would be really good if the government was got out of uh it's involvement
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would you say that that's one of the reasons why you don't believe in marriage or is that like
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or do you just generally not believe it in general okay oh no i just wanted to ask yeah i mean primarily
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just the state's involvement with it and okay the potential ramifications in the event of a divorce
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that's pretty much it uh and then i think those are all the chats let me see i had some more notes for
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you actually i think uh we have hold on uh women expect you said women expect too much from men
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when they don't have much themselves yeah so a lot of the times when i was or actually in the very
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beginning of my relationship uh whether i had an argument with my now husband or a disagreement a lot
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of friends around me would tell me that he's not worth anything because he didn't have a job or like he
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wasn't necessarily making like a lump sum of money and they said you have a job he doesn't so i mean
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go find somebody that does and you know if i would have listened i wouldn't be married right now and in
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a happy relationship so i just think that like women expect too much of men but don't have the
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same in return like i feel like if you're gonna expect a six-figure salary from a man
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maybe have something have have something to offer or at least be making six figures yourself but
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expecting a job is like bare minimum expecting what would be the the equitable thing to offer
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if you're looking for a six-figure man i mean i just think that you should have the same in return
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i think if you have less and you're expecting higher i think that's kind of like an unfair thing to do
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isn't that women's nature though hypergamy to want a man who is well yeah like i i'm saying in terms
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of me like i had a job very young and my husband didn't and just i didn't mind about that go off
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nicolette i didn't go off nicolette nicolette tell us how you feel come on uh i mean i think that's just
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like the bare minimum to want a guy with a job maybe like you don't have this job in a car i mean you
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don't have to expect him to make more money than you but i mean that's not what you expect
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um yeah but you don't have to i mean just say like that's crazy like i'm glad it worked out for
05:07:06.900
you but can i can we ask why he didn't have a job um for so long well at the time he was actually
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trying to figure out what career he wanted to do and i was completely fine with that because we were
05:07:19.500
both in school at the time and then so he's a student yeah he was a student we were both students
05:07:24.980
at the same time so he was just trying to figure out what he wanted to do did he ask you to pay for
05:07:31.220
stuff or was that something you just volunteered i voluntarily did it oh okay myself and you said
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moving on though uh you said when women have a bias against men it is socially accepted and usually
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laughed off when men do the same they're seen as misogynists i'm not saying both genders don't
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have a right to be biased however when men do it it's seen as wrong to the most extreme level
05:07:50.680
yeah so like i was watching like a prior podcast and a lot of the times they talk about like you
05:07:56.000
know like if you would prefer someone who's overweight and somebody who's not you know if
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a female has a preference that a man not be overweight it's seen as like a preference but
05:08:04.220
when a man doesn't want an overweight woman he's seen as like biased he's rude he's an ass things like
05:08:11.660
that i just think that it's a little unfair yeah to be saying that kind of stuff well it's kind of
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like i mean if we look at the bear versus man one question like that's a really strong bias to have
05:08:23.480
against men that you would rather for those of you who said bear actually this panel overwhelmingly said
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man which is most of the times we've been asking this question for two months now i said randomized so
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that that's why i don't mean okay thank you for that addition thank you oh you're back i had some
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questions for you um but no you make a really good point so i mean the i mean to say that like
05:08:46.400
you would rather be with a bear over a man is a very biased thing to say because the presupposition
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there is like a uh law like such a large majority of men would opt to victimize you in some way
05:08:58.960
paints men as like inherently predatory which is really not the case there are absolutely terrible
05:09:04.160
men out there but the vast majority of men would not opt to harm a woman there are monstrous men out
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there but it's a small like small minority very small minority of men so uh yeah that's why i
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would i would hope for the best in people that's why that was my point it's randomized yeah hope for
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the best but not in the past last thing on the feminist thing uh so do you believe women should
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be drafted i'm fine with that okay i thought you said something differently last time and i asked the
05:09:34.640
whole panel if anybody has any disagreements with anything they've heard from the podcast do you
05:09:38.820
have any disagreements you want to disagree i just want to disagree with this one statistic that
05:09:42.920
keeps coming up andrew wilson and his wife both said it that majority of divorces happens because
05:09:48.840
the woman is unhappy and i'm like no i just really looked it up the first time i came on i said majority
05:09:55.240
of divorces happen because of infidelity i told him that he was like that was a money issue no no no
05:10:00.460
re-look it up you can do u.s divorces 2024 it is infidelity on nick can look it up
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what do you mean she's getting cheated on or she is cheating
05:10:13.700
look it up divorce.com or whatever the fuck so i'm so sorry the number one reason for divorces is
05:10:22.980
male infidelity no not male i'm saying infidelity infidelity in general sure that would be a good
05:10:29.480
reason for divorce but i'm not sure if that's the primary that's the primary i'm telling you i
05:10:33.340
looked it up okay before the first time i came i'll actually just take your word for it i don't
05:10:37.620
really care to argue it okay to be honest if it is it just bothered if it is i heard it like uh i
05:10:43.280
don't remember when andrew wilson's wife was on but i heard it again and i was like no it's infidelity
05:10:47.780
i just looked this up yeah well maybe we have different stats on that well you can look it up i'm fine with
05:10:54.140
it yeah okay okay uh okay you said brian thanks for the bow advice what so uh oh yeah we had to
05:11:03.120
play the bow video okay we'll do that in a bit so i actually did it just like out of nowhere for like
05:11:07.820
a good week and at first my husband was like a little bit like kind of thrown off but he just
05:11:11.840
accepted it but i noticed that the week that i was doing it it brought out the chivalrous side of
05:11:16.520
him so like that's when i got more of like the opening the door for me you know holding my hand
05:11:22.560
things like that like being a little bit more like pulling the chair out for me when we go out
05:11:26.640
to dinner like it just brought out and i had asked him about it before i came on the show and he said
05:11:31.280
well it just it just feels like you know like i kind of see you as more of like a little like kind
05:11:35.960
of like i want to protect your femininity like you seem more of like something like i just want to
05:11:41.040
protect it so it's kind of like i want to do these things for you so i just i thought it was funny and
05:11:45.760
i thought it was actually it actually kind of helped with doing the small like gesture i mean
05:11:49.880
he saw it as just more of a respect thing it wasn't more of like yeah what is what it what
05:11:54.860
are you guys talking about what is that you don't know about the bow what is that you guys don't know
05:11:59.320
about the bow i haven't played the bow video for you no you guys been on the show like two times
05:12:03.600
yeah you never play this for us neither time we got the luxury shit i gotta introduce you guys to
05:12:08.380
like the bow wait does your husband does your husband watch the show no i would say more
05:12:14.800
what's bow wait cat you gotta watch or what's her name julia julie julie julia you're gonna watch
05:12:20.400
the bow video julie come here yeah come here stop doing meth in the bathroom please yeah please
05:12:25.220
i think i said math i'm like i don't think i gotta stop cut the cut the
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she's not a method all right so your husband doesn't watch the show so it's not like he knew
05:12:40.480
oh she's doing the whatever podcast thing okay yeah all right i'm check this check this is what
05:12:45.560
i need from a girl this is what i need watch check this out guys i'm so excited go ahead you can play
05:12:50.680
it now boom check out that bow technique son oh i would like to do that all the time there's the
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laundry yeah all right oh look at that uh dinner's ready oh she's you know attentive oh great okay
05:13:08.940
oh that's fine we can still see a little differences uh getting me a beer look at that
05:13:13.460
this is so nice and she's beautiful yeah i mean her eyes kind of scare me a little bit
05:13:20.900
she's got that like kind of crazy she's got the crazy uncanny valley boom huge bow what if i did all
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that without the bow at the beginning uh so not what if i only know not the same worthless
05:13:35.420
she really needs that meth yeah doesn't she okay i i studied abroad in japan for like a month so
05:13:42.800
like i bow all the time everyone makes fun of me i'm like oh thank you well now you're dating so
05:13:49.140
yeah the bow it worked she did it i've had a couple girls come on the show i've had girls even message
05:13:54.600
me saying hey i tried the bow i thought it was ridiculous and it worked the husband loved the
05:14:00.780
boyfriend husband loved it loved it i do like just a mini i think i just want to be appreciated
05:14:05.360
for the reference no no it's like if like someone opens a door open for me i'm like oh thank you
05:14:10.800
like next day i'm going yes thank you oh thank you i mean it's really embarrassing i've been told
05:14:16.720
several times that i do too much for my husband so i've been i've been judged by a lot of women
05:14:21.940
because of what i do for my husband so i've also been yeah a lot of women for what i do for my husband
05:14:27.620
are those women married but conveniently you guys are married yeah i was gonna say are those women
05:14:32.620
married because the women who judge me for how much i do for my husband i've actually been judged by a
05:14:36.560
few people that are clients that are married heaven forbid you do too much well i think shouldn't you
05:14:44.060
shouldn't you want to do things for your spouse yeah everything i do for him i i get joy yeah like
05:14:49.580
it's not like he's forcing you into it right is what you're yeah that's what you're saying right
05:14:53.440
like yeah like i have a few clients that actually really think that i do way too much and they'll
05:14:57.700
say the ones that are doing the whole thing no they're even married i have one i have a client
05:15:02.800
that's married with a child and she'll tell me like you do way too much and then i ask her like okay
05:15:07.140
well finances and things what do you do and she's just like well usually 50 50 i contribute and i'm
05:15:11.400
like see that's i don't i'm i'm very traditional so i don't believe in that so the nails oh
05:15:17.160
wait so you okay so he pays most of your bills and that kind of allows you the time he pays all
05:15:23.400
of my bills and oh yeah of course that makes sense yeah well he has constant food on the table his
05:15:28.420
outfit or uniform for work is put in the morning for him already laid out so i think that's really
05:15:34.100
much already taken care of for him when he comes would you guys be down nicolette would you be down
05:15:38.880
to bow for a bow for a go sure we don't we don't want a begrudging bow we want an enthusiastic bow
05:15:51.040
okay i'll do it oh wait like right now yeah oh i mean that's not what i was asking but okay fuck
05:15:55.520
it let's see the technique go ahead i'll stand up i guess i guess no this is getting weird it's like
05:16:01.440
no i'm excited don't stop this hey stop shaming okay it's okay please don't bow it's not like
05:16:07.360
uh okay it wasn't bad i mean i i think this is a bit much the you know the rare hands oh now
05:16:14.340
the hands need to be like folded down here yes like i dream of genie instead no no no it needs
05:16:23.720
to be like okay uh like just show you're non-threatening uh would you do vow um yes but
05:16:32.160
i think i'd laugh i would feel bad you should try it maybe the guys will pay for dates
05:16:42.420
i'm just giving her i'm trying to help out yeah they'll be like oh she's worth
05:16:48.340
going half on at least half she's worth what wait what you take that back take what back
05:16:57.580
she's worth the whole meal did you just hear what you said out loud what would i say maybe
05:17:03.280
she's worth going half on are you implying that i'm not that that would wouldn't that be an upgrade
05:17:08.400
from oh no the what you've been the the guys paying for nothing just said no huh that's what you just
05:17:15.740
said what do you mean i'm confused would you would you moving on oh what would you bow what you bow
05:17:22.600
i bow all the time i just said that no for like a guy it's like it's
05:17:28.700
if you were dating nick would you bow for him it's like it's like a respect answer the question
05:17:35.100
it's a respect thing if he does anything nice i'm like oh thank you would you bow for nick if
05:17:39.100
you're dating him thank you all the time i do this like now you open the door can you read this
05:17:44.080
go ahead just did a quick google search the primary cries of for divorce is your
05:17:49.140
irrecon oh my god irreconcilable differences and is primarily initiated by women meaning women
05:17:56.220
aren't happy so they want to leave uh that's not the statistic i read you're done you're wrong
05:18:01.080
thank you but you're wrong uh we need to let's see we got to get through a couple oh dating
05:18:07.080
profiles let's do the dating profiles guys a couple girls have dating profiles we're gonna reveal
05:18:12.240
nicolette first she's single ready to mingle bachelorette number one
05:18:19.120
enjoy a coffee or get a yummy dinner okay all right next that's the win i'm just kidding
05:18:27.140
all right that that's her and her friends next i want someone who will treat me like a princess
05:18:36.680
who's next to you is that my friend that looks like kamala harris okay next you are you friends
05:18:44.360
with her okay to me relaxation is skincare reading a book or listening to a podcast like you listen
05:18:49.180
to the whatever podcast i did on the way here nice next or is that it okay that's you again okay
05:18:57.660
wait you want to be treated like a princess so that's actually um to find sugar daddies
05:19:04.540
that's like yeah so not love all right so the whole coffee thing i wouldn't actually go on a
05:19:13.240
real date with someone that i wanted to like take seriously for coffee that's just like yeah yeah paid
05:19:21.200
all right respect the honesty all right next you want to be treated like a princess though but
05:19:29.720
so you can't just straight out say on hinge or any dating app like looking for a sugar daddy or i'll
05:19:36.360
still ban you so that's like kind of my way of just you know yummy desserts like getting around it
05:19:45.020
sure uh let's do the next app oh god jojo all right this is jojo okay uh one piece
05:19:54.580
what uh she's a student at full-time student okay i just graduated atheist okay next you're welcome
05:20:04.320
unusual skills i can lick my elbow okay let's see it oh no actually i have double jointed shoulders so
05:20:10.540
i can like make a hole in my shoulder lick your elbow oh don't that is unsettling i had to prove
05:20:17.560
it first and then this is gonna be the highlight what wow that's hot that's wild that's definitely
05:20:26.940
not hot someone in my wait are you also able to put both your elbows together
05:20:30.720
do it above huh yeah there you go okay that's crazy next one next image from the dating app oh no
05:20:44.440
dating a menace what what hold on what do you mean dating a menace do you understand how annoying i am
05:20:52.640
yes oh i understand yeah i understand very well so wait i'm just curious though because i mean here
05:21:00.420
like we're in a podcast setting we're just having conversations debates disagreements whatever but
05:21:05.640
like in a dating setting so how are you annoying i i only had one ex i've only dated one dude so he
05:21:12.480
absolutely hated that my like how much i would debate him he would be i'm so competitive like i in an
05:21:19.540
annoying way where it's like so like in an annoying way where it's like even in video games and things
05:21:25.000
like that i would have to like be like top fragging or like um sorry um i would have to be top of the
05:21:31.880
leaderboards whatever you know yeah leaderboards okay um and he hated that on the back argumentative
05:21:38.500
on the back i'm so argumentative and i have to win everything oh and here we are combative i'm very
05:21:45.420
mad at him so even if i lose i've gotten a lot better so you're super quarrelsome
05:21:52.220
yeah yeah i've gotten better i gotta say okay all right i'll back up every once in a while good to
05:21:58.920
know all right is that is there more oh oh it's cosplay yeah of course of course wait what that's
05:22:06.480
who a lot of like people were like oh let's do who do we have next we have um abby right
05:22:12.880
let's check out her dating app abby oh damn okay uh next wait leave a comment if you want to meet
05:22:24.100
here your bed oh oh shit a little scandalous okay next pick the most underrated okay something's
05:22:34.540
not okay next 21 vermont moderate she's looking for short term open to long girl that's why they're
05:22:43.660
not paying yep that part yeah so you just want to you just want to hit it and quit it is that no
05:22:53.780
like it depends on the person oh okay yeah interesting all right next
05:22:59.340
dating me is like too much caffeine what do you mean um i drink a lot of caffeine
05:23:07.740
so so you're like hyper you're hyper yeah i can be you like got that crackhead energy
05:23:17.580
huh not like that not like that like who where did you point there
05:23:24.360
what is the moderate part mean moderate i don't even know what oh fuck just keep going keep going
05:23:45.160
okay all right please keep going um what was your question moderate i don't know what like what does
05:23:52.120
that mean like i know what moderate means but on that yes i'm sorry it's not it's not keep going
05:23:57.800
okay well i don't really like i made this a while ago so i don't even know what the other options were
05:24:02.640
but like i think it has to do with my like stance like political views yeah yeah i don't like
05:24:07.760
think i think i am a liberal or republican so i just picked that i said that sounds like the middle
05:24:12.160
publican what's that good old publican those guys i love the publicans them my favorites
05:24:18.640
sign me up okay uh let's see what else was there more nick
05:24:26.400
more photos okay oh look at that to be yours and it's only for a short time short time but she's
05:24:38.320
open to a good time not a long time that's a good catch nicolette and only if they're mexican too
05:24:44.080
right yeah for sure wait is that like a must wait do you have that set on your preference to like
05:24:48.720
hispanic where does that does that come like where did that where did that come from i'm just
05:24:53.200
i don't fucking know just you you met a mexican once and you're like this is it it started when
05:24:59.760
i was like a tween like i was probably like 13 oh oh a tween who was it that did it for you was
05:25:07.680
it mario lopez i was on vacation to california and there there you have it okay next one nick
05:25:18.160
oh it's a little out there but i like it would you get would you date her would you pay for the
05:25:25.840
date no i'm cheap would you pay for yourself like age gap relationship right you're like 28 right i
05:25:33.760
was just her profile is beautiful but wait what her profile is beautiful but i would you wouldn't
05:25:39.920
she wouldn't tap you wouldn't hit that's a crazy question brian what so it is yes okay fine you
05:25:47.360
wouldn't take her on a romantic date depends where mcdonald's no i think i'm taking a break from
05:25:53.360
dating again okay so uh is there more nick or is that it uh yeah definitely get rid of those tabs
05:26:03.280
and then we also had to do the uh attract oh the uh rating yourself thing but i'm gonna is she coming
05:26:12.800
back yeah she's gonna go to the car real quick i'm so sorry she'll probably not come back oh she's
05:26:17.920
not coming back uh i hope she's still here hey oh no come on no she's gonna go to my car she's having
05:26:25.440
a little bit of anxiety sorry we got some applesauce if you want some applesauce you want some applesauce
05:26:32.960
no peaches a boo no i'm sorry a boo oh hey boo i'm sorry i didn't leave peaches for you okay i
05:26:41.440
apologize are you hungry no no she's hungry that's what it is right let me get i got applesauce what
05:26:52.400
you need girl what you need i got a protein bar okay do you want to go on the balcony we could close
05:27:01.360
the door oh yeah you could oh dissociate yeah uh how long well the only thing is if you leave
05:27:10.800
it's like you can't really get back in do you want to just kick it on the balcony that way think about
05:27:15.760
this way it might help your anxiety we got we got eyes on you so if like anything that's true if you
05:27:20.240
need us we're here okay me no it's good it's okay can you want just can we close it yeah we can close
05:27:27.760
the balcony yeah so you can would you be better sitting wait but it's gonna be closed yeah do you
05:27:36.480
want to get a chair for like the little thank you guys so much you guys are beautiful do we have a
05:27:42.080
blanket yeah oh man this is gonna be one of the little nick sacrifice the girl has anxiety attack
05:27:48.720
oh true gentleman applesauce thank you guys applesauce we've already got the title it's
05:27:54.480
post taste no you know how there's like little like applesauce oh yeah go ahead anxiety attack
05:28:01.120
anyways uh i'm already back don't worry what were we uh you know what this would be a good time
05:28:08.720
to say that uh oh my god it's dead so um sorry she had an anxiety no it's all good it happens to the
05:28:18.320
best of us she's having a lot this week all right nick lock the door guys let's leave
05:28:29.520
she just came up on a nice apartment that is she's done
05:28:32.720
okay so uh wait where were we we're gonna do the oh no look let's do the we gotta do the i'm
05:28:41.920
gonna do the rating and do the rating stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one
05:28:46.880
to ten you can't pick seven starting with you can i can i do 0.5 you can do 0.25 like you can go
05:28:57.040
to the third digit or the um i'll say like fuck i don't know it depends on the day like i'll say
05:29:17.280
what about the like the times where the guy didn't pay for the date like what would you
05:29:21.520
write yourself on that he loves it what an ass my god no i'm just i'm you know you could have
05:29:27.680
maybe it was because you were 10 that you know they they wanted to bring you down the peg because
05:29:31.920
you're so hot that's it that's what i i figured this shit out you're you were so hot you were so
05:29:38.400
hot on those dates you were 10 they're like oh man like she's kind of out of my league i gotta
05:29:44.000
bring her down a bit pay for the date lady lady lady right that's what happened right
05:29:51.520
okay nicolette i'm gonna change it up no yeah oh shit i was a nine you used to be a 10 i know
05:30:04.720
what happened why why do you why downgrade i don't know i don't feel too hot right now why
05:30:08.240
are you downgrading no tell us why you're downgrading uh i don't know i think it's my
05:30:11.920
hair right now i didn't definitely that's what it is i usually curl it i'm just kidding your hair
05:30:18.800
wait but hold on i think i think your hair is a 10 out of 10 oh thank you yeah it looks good
05:30:23.520
i don't know i feel like not good right now but anyway i feel it what's up what about you
05:30:32.480
on my good days say a solid 7.7 6.9 i'd probably say like a five one maybe an eight like an eight
05:30:42.240
i give myself a five all right good good talk thank you what do you think what what did uh julia
05:30:49.360
say last show she's a seven she's a seven okay all right i think today what what did she say
05:30:56.800
i don't know how she's doing right now i can't tap into that mine gonna probably be lower let's go to
05:31:00.640
twitch guys go to twitch twitch smash twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub guys it's
05:31:10.000
been 22 minutes since we've gone to prime i think it's bugged guys i think something's wrong with our
05:31:15.520
twitch there's 1600 people watching if you're not following hit that follow button so you can see
05:31:21.360
you know madison's cooking streams and some irl shit that we're gonna do and you can also see madison
05:31:27.440
talking about things that are definitely important oh there it is okay the prime is working thank you
05:31:32.880
primal oh oh primal oh ab check with the gifted 20 memberships thank you dude you're you are a
05:31:42.480
he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer you're a pioneer dude ab check you've been here
05:31:47.200
for a long time thank you man appreciate it speaking of which speaking of which i think we've
05:31:52.800
gone through most of our stuff we're gonna do maybe a roast section for a little bit a roast section
05:31:59.360
right roast of who well nobody said the 10s so you know okay i mean nicolette over here you know
05:32:07.040
she's with her with her nine but you're gonna go over six we could do the bumble there's actually
05:32:14.080
this this uh subreddit called true rate me that actually like will show categorizations it'd be
05:32:20.880
interesting to look at it briefly why don't you show the men first and then we'll look at the men the
05:32:25.280
women i've only seen like and it has like guidelines on how to rate so pull up the men
05:32:30.480
it's so funny whoa yeah oh my god i'm trying to see where i fit in so this is like how you would
05:32:38.240
rank men so we won't read like you can see the details on the right we're not going to read all
05:32:44.080
those but um oh there's francisco lachowski we've pulled that guy up before okay all right scroll down
05:32:52.800
scroll down scroll down ronaldo's in the 7.5 these are 6.5 oh man i'm so glad i should have gone lower
05:33:02.160
though 5.5 that's a 5.5 wait hold on stop there little wayne jeremy alice rodriguez wait whoa 4.5
05:33:14.560
the 5 to the 4.5 is a crazy drop do they have this of women yeah can we see the women
05:33:20.080
well let's go to the very bottom on this that's a crazy drop damn that's crazy
05:33:33.360
scroll down keep going hey i might be a two wow okay
05:33:55.200
check the ladies all right i actually disagree with some of the placements here a little bit
05:34:01.200
okay tell us like that okay the the second row the asian girl so he uh there's like other women
05:34:09.040
in lower tiers that i would yeah i would agree that i would put higher than her like the lisa
05:34:14.080
liza liza i would put her higher don't talk about liza you don't know even some of the other asian
05:34:18.560
women i'd put higher than like i'd put i'd put these three these bottom three asian women
05:34:24.000
liza's the filipino i'd put them higher than so i can't pronounce her name the soy he i don't
05:34:31.040
know dude i want to i feel like they could have done better let's go down let's go down we'll keep
05:34:34.960
going down though all right now we're getting into six this is the women at six five point five
05:34:43.040
you've got uh kiki palmer wait wait wait european women let's rewind i feel like women are really
05:34:50.720
the victims because like look how beautiful all the women are oh okay so we're all like twos we're
05:34:56.960
all like twos they're all beautiful hey speak for yourself okay scroll down all right amy schumer
05:35:04.320
with a at the 3.5 okay and then uh sandra oh okay all right donatella versace okay uh oh man
05:35:16.000
i don't want to be in two i take it back i don't want to be in two i want three
05:35:22.720
tammy do okay so that's the ratings these the the people on reddit have done some really thorough i i
05:35:35.120
you know it's actually pretty good i disagree with that uh that one asian woman i feel like they could
05:35:40.400
have been hotter liza some of those at the top i was like yeah do you generally agree with it though
05:35:46.000
like do you generally agree with that when you're looking at it you could move some people up and
05:35:51.040
down but like overall it's well according to that i'm like a 12 then whoa whoa stop it get some help
05:36:03.360
this is different standards okay beauty's in the eye of the bee holder yeah you didn't even say
05:36:08.800
that confidently it's an eye i'm sleepy it's okay whoever holds the bees they get to decide we are
05:36:16.320
going to lower the hold on i'm going to lower the tts to 69 if uh just if any of you want to get in
05:36:26.080
200 the whole show huh i was like it's really quiet so uh 69 tts if anybody wants to get
05:36:31.760
it in a message uh so what was the other stuff we had to get through nick there was uh
05:36:40.960
yeah we'll do that fuck it we'll do it real quick
05:36:44.640
yeah if he won't find someone who will like if he won't open your door for you find someone who will
05:36:49.600
wait pause it real quick do you guys agree if he won't find somebody who will wait like if he won't
05:36:56.880
open the door for you is that what she said no she in general like if he won't do x find somebody
05:37:02.320
who will if it's something you want yeah no no wait but paying for dates um
05:37:14.560
i um you said we're skipping we're skipping you we're skipping
05:37:19.760
while paladins donated 69 dollars i'll pay money just to have someone read out that honor
05:37:27.520
to our mass is actually a 10 reddit is a liberal cesspool disregard yeah that's crazy he's saying
05:37:34.240
she is a 10 or no yeah she's beautiful oh yeah she didn't deserve to be a six maybe i guess when
05:37:39.200
she was a younger younger i guess no she's beautiful have you seen this woman how old is she i don't know
05:37:44.320
like your age no she's in her 40s isn't she like your age she is she looks great
05:37:53.120
what about you um if he's not doing it find someone who will yeah if he won't find someone
05:37:59.280
who will agree or disagree um i don't go looking for anyone but if they're not meeting my standards
05:38:05.120
i'll like just like not entertain it yeah i'd say yes find what you want i feel like that's terribly
05:38:11.040
vague but overall no no yeah same overall no but there are specific things that can be deal breakers
05:38:20.160
i mean unless you're already committed to the guy then yeah if it's like a small stupid thing then
05:38:25.760
no but like opening the door that's obnoxious of course i'm not going to go find someone for
05:38:30.640
something like that go find someone nick we can play the rest we'll press start from the beginning
05:38:35.600
actually just so it's only a few seconds you got it i believe in you nick yeah oh oh man
05:38:47.360
oh man to start the whole thing over yeah i guess we got to restart the whole podcast fuck that oh
05:38:52.880
just refresh it just refresh guys tts is now 69 if you want to get a tts and yeah go for it
05:39:00.880
if he won't find someone who will like if he won't open your door for you find someone who will
05:39:08.320
simple right my brother just asked me does that work for guys too i was like of course so he's like
05:39:13.040
so if she doesn't cook for me find someone who will if she won't do my laundry for me then find a girl
05:39:18.800
that will why does it sound so bad when men say it it sounds bad because our society and culture are in
05:39:26.800
a fallen state and our media has everybody brainwashed into believing that life is about
05:39:33.120
what i want who owes it to me and how i get it from them but not about what i should be providing to
05:39:41.120
others this is my depiction of a transactional relationship this is one thing she wants from him
05:39:46.480
one thing he wants from her and if you stop there it's just a negotiation how much do i have to give to
05:39:52.960
get more mature relationships are focused on what i can provide what is it that makes me a quality
05:39:59.680
partner that's why these conversations about the table are so stupid women will say i am the table
05:40:06.160
as if he has no needs at all that's what these princess treatment relationships are it's just
05:40:11.440
simping with no reciprocation and it ends when you can't keep it up anymore so when you say why does it
05:40:17.840
sound so bad when men say it it is because you are experiencing a demand instead of an offer of
05:40:23.520
support and that is how the internet pulls consciousness downwards you might be a unique
05:40:29.520
individual who recognizes multiple valid perspectives but when you're flipping through tick tock you're
05:40:35.040
being programmed to be egocentric self-interested and self-protective and to see others mainly as a means
05:40:42.480
to an end we still need to get our needs met it's just so annoying to hear you all talk about it i
05:40:48.800
want this and i want this and i want that where's the part that would make us want to give it i'll
05:40:54.480
give you an example i would love donated sixty nine dollars natalie you're not nearly as intelligent as
05:41:01.040
you think the donning kruger is strong with you you've barely dispatched of the chimp in blue
05:41:07.280
quit politics you're hurting the cause do you want to respond to that uh no
05:41:15.600
oh okay yeah okay all right thank you paul thank you in denver well it's impossible to dispatch
05:41:21.280
somebody the chimp in blue doesn't make that's a good that's a good she says good description it's
05:41:28.560
it's kind of hard hard you know yeah you should have more women on the back end of your show
05:41:32.480
oh that's true actually actually no he's actually got some better than actually i got i got one male
05:41:40.800
employee one female employee that's what i'm saying better i'm a feminist 2007 better than 2017
05:41:49.840
that's my point all right we can play he's actually a feminist yeah somebody to do chores for me i just
05:41:57.440
don't list it as a primary requirement i say that i'm looking for someone who is excited about
05:42:03.280
who i am as a person so we can both help each other live fuller more satisfying lives and that
05:42:09.120
would have to include someone doing the laundry so there's no reason to mention it it's a question of
05:42:13.600
language and mentality everyone's talking about the results they want but not about what they're going
05:42:19.120
to do in order to deserve them if you don't like your situation you need to figure out why it's like that
05:42:25.360
and then rethink a few things and then change how you show up and what you do or who you hang out
05:42:31.920
with and see if you get better results but instead people just like to list off their demands on tiktok
05:42:37.680
and offer nothing it's social degradation don't do it all right that is uh uh excuse me ho math
05:42:45.600
he's got a very interesting channel he uh does analysis he has buddy draws stuff he has buddies
05:42:52.720
what's that guy's channel he's been on the show he's been on the show well he did a call in who
05:42:56.400
is that oh i love his ticket oh he doesn't have a name okay can i recommend something
05:43:04.400
can i yeah he's got to improve his art skills man that was tough you you talking about
05:43:10.240
home math yeah his art skills you think you can do better a hundred percent i can't
05:43:14.160
can you draw better than a hundred percent i can't in the street i'm an artist a hundred percent
05:43:18.640
you can't i'm an artist yeah clearly i'm an artist wow uh okay good talk uh did you guys have any
05:43:27.120
reaction he mentioned something about princess treatment you mentioned that in your dating app
05:43:32.720
shots fired at nicolette do you want to respond to home at he took shots at you bro
05:43:36.480
so i cater to men who like want to do that so your audience isn't going to agree with that
05:43:49.920
like i'm not forcing okay i'm not forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to
05:43:54.560
it's true are you asking like what do i provide for them or like what's the question
05:43:58.480
well yes indeed well put well put we had to also do boys we had to do oh there's oh okay
05:44:09.600
so guys last week we had this girl and this actually will tie back into the thing we were
05:44:14.320
talking about really early on in the show which was waiting and for uh like waiting to have sex or
05:44:19.200
whatever there's a girl who was scheduled to come on the show on sunday she no showed she no showed so
05:44:26.560
what we're gonna do is oh what are we gonna do what are we gonna do we're gonna call her out we're
05:44:33.360
gonna i mean she is kind of trash she's a bag of trash uh for no showing and not having the courtesy
05:44:42.560
to just be like hey sorry i couldn't make it by the way she did text me like 6 p.m so the me time
05:44:48.320
is 4 p.m 6 p.m the day of the show oh uh i had a work call about her excuse she had a work call
05:44:55.920
for two hours so she couldn't make well you said 6 p.m your time she messaged me at 6 p.m oh i'm
05:45:04.720
so sorry i couldn't make it i got a work call two hours your time yeah so super weird anyways um
05:45:12.000
so she had some interesting pre-show notes so since she's not here but we're still gonna react to them
05:45:18.000
so nick pull up the uh first or wait hold on her profile do we show her profile i feel like it's a
05:45:25.760
little free clown she can't defend herself yeah but she also can come back and defend herself
05:45:33.280
is this the penalty for no showing yeah uh public shaming
05:45:39.120
shame i'll ask the chat do we show the instagram chat do we show the instagram yes or no
05:45:45.040
show the instagram yes or no otherwise i'll just show the messages
05:45:52.480
no yes i like james's answer yes shame show it show yes no everyone's gonna say yes
05:45:59.040
yeah i was gonna say yes it's easy it's not the footage i'm seeing an overwhelming
05:46:04.720
young metro uh it's like oh no free clout no no class no freak i would die for you jojo oh
05:46:12.480
but she'd still be the victim lol paladin's donated 69 dollars make shaming great again
05:46:26.880
i agree with that uh we're not gonna show it but we're not gonna show it but so just go to the
05:46:32.800
messages nick it's a better choice yeah okay so uh we have to kind of wait jojo can you read
05:46:44.000
starting from her message i've dated in three different states even a couple different countries
05:46:50.480
and i've been on the dating scene for five years i've had two serious relationships and after that
05:46:57.200
tallied a decent body count suddenly at 25 my frontal lobe kicked in and i decided i was fed
05:47:03.760
up with myself and the way i was dating i told myself i wouldn't have sex with someone i wasn't
05:47:08.640
genuinely connected to and i haven't had sex in a year in seven months last summer i had a dating
05:47:14.400
experiment i ran on i ran on hinge and the results were fascinating plus i love to talk have me on your
05:47:21.040
podcast okay so there's a couple things here leave it here for a sec uh she stayed in three different
05:47:26.160
states three different couple different countries she's had two serious relationships and after
05:47:31.520
those tallied a decent body count suddenly at 25 my frontal lobe kicked in and i decided i was fed up
05:47:39.600
with myself and the way i was dating translation fed up with being a strumpet and sleeping i mean by
05:47:47.040
her own admission she tallied a decent body count i'm gonna assume that's like 30. i told myself i
05:47:54.160
i wouldn't have sex with someone i wasn't genuinely connected to and i haven't had sex in a year
05:48:00.000
in seven months and then i don't know about this hinge experiment actually i messaged her let me see
05:48:05.120
if she got back and then there's another one nick just pull up that other one from her it should be
05:48:10.400
the next tab over all right which part oh scroll down a little bit uh that's it that's it that's it up
05:48:18.640
okay i mean to read the oof uh okay so she's single she's single as fuck and yeah read the oof
05:48:27.280
please oof yes small town dating in high school then dating my volleyball coach who got stage four
05:48:33.360
cancer and beat it and then i dumped him and then went feral in europe really great story from there
05:48:40.080
been single ever since five years i literally am literally am working on a book then i turned 25 my
05:48:46.160
brain did things and i decided i wasn't going to have sex with someone unless it was for love
05:48:50.720
and i haven't been laid in a year and seven months hashtag thoughts and prayers so she said she went
05:48:57.120
feral in europe what do you think feral in europe means in terms of body count anyone who wants to sleep
05:49:04.480
with her she's down 10 plus turn 25 my brain did things and she decided she wasn't going to have
05:49:17.600
sex unless it was for love she hasn't been laid in one one year seven months uh so
05:49:25.920
bringing it back to the whole waiting for sex thing so this girl admits she had a very promiscuous
05:49:34.880
past went feral in europe i'm gonna just say 30 let's ask the chat pull up the chat
05:49:41.920
what does going feral in europe mean they're gonna say like one no to me it's like anyone who's like
05:49:49.920
down she's down 100 plus is crazy she's down if they're down oh at least 50 if she's she's probably
05:49:59.360
there for like a week let's be honest so like wait what was the thing about the cancer thing did i miss
05:50:03.600
that part yeah it was like uh she said she was sleeping with her teacher or a coach and then
05:50:08.320
he got cancer and he she dumped him after he beat it apparently i gotta be she dumped him after the
05:50:15.680
cancer yeah stage four feral in feral in europe i mean that's at least we don't know bare minimum
05:50:22.400
10. that's 10 bodies i think i need more context on the trip yeah if she's there for a week that's
05:50:29.280
some strumpet baby i want to say body counts 50. body counts 50. sans soft liberty donated 69 dollars
05:50:37.760
democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to eat for dinner a republic is two wolves and a
05:50:43.920
well i'm glum deciding what to have for dinner benjamin franklin the usc is a republic fjb okay
05:50:52.800
what does that mean thank you that was beautiful oh hey what's up julia what's up what's up you want
05:50:57.920
some applesauce you good i'm chilling i just had an anxiety attack but we're chilling we're vibing
05:51:03.680
we're out here we good just a little anxiety attack it happens to the best of us so casual
05:51:09.520
right brian brian remember this every time a girl cancels she's here i'm here even with an
05:51:14.320
anxiety attack mid-show she's here i put i i give respect to to all you three because you guys been
05:51:20.240
on the show three times or what you two three and then you twice me uh i i always commend those who
05:51:27.920
show up we got a lot of on time we get on lakes and late people on time too so you guys are consummate
05:51:34.080
professionals even though we disagree on things sometimes we have heated debates sometimes i call
05:51:38.560
people retard i still i still got love crackhead it's all love it's all love what's your and sorry
05:51:47.840
that i was a little you know i did a little i was a little uh to you so i'm sorry it happens eyeball
05:51:53.840
no to you i was like damn it why do you gotta say i was a little i was a little bit out of it i was a
05:52:00.320
little out of pocket well i was a little out of it this is a kumbaya this is kumbaya
05:52:05.920
the vibes have been immaculate should we all hold hands yeah we should we should hold hands i'm a
05:52:11.280
german i needed a man on the balcony but i'm alive wait okay so going back to her thing though so
05:52:17.840
ladies so she she's i assume she's maybe done some dating in that one year seven month period and
05:52:24.880
so like imagine like she hit 25 she fucked like 50 70 dudes 100 dudes in europe okay 200 dudes in
05:52:34.320
europe sure probably throwing a couple chicks why not crazy why not who knows it's europe right
05:52:41.120
it's answered it's fucking lisbon yeah it's fucking amsterdam
05:52:44.160
do you think if she like now her her shift was going from fucking guys pro i'm assuming sure
05:52:55.520
fucking guys within 30 minutes of meeting them to
05:53:01.440
i'm waiting until love that's what she says she wants a connection she wants love what does that mean
05:53:07.120
just being in love do you think that's that that's valid i don't think it's fair to make a man
05:53:16.960
wait for something that other man other men got like that hold on i have to wait too they have to
05:53:23.360
work for it and hold on we're gonna have to wait too i mean he probably he bought dinners for so many
05:53:28.400
women i had to wait for that dinner i think it's good that she came to that realization and as long as
05:53:32.960
they're having open discussion about it and he's comfortable with it i don't see the problem but it
05:53:37.840
is kind of i don't know i think maybe it would be easy to go back to that same behavior probably so
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oh interesting now it's easy to go back i might have been better off on that bathroom that's the
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one uh i think he was looking at me during this conversation you know i might have been better off on
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that but no um i think uh i think it's okay well she didn't know what she wanted in her youth right
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that's i think the the change in mentality or whatever yeah i mean i think what would be your
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desired outcome she's like oh i already gave this puss away to everyone i guess i should just give it
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away more like the better choice is for her to she's like oh that was harmful behavior she's
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rethinking your mentality right yeah yeah do you guys think if a guy was like no i don't want to
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have to wait if a bunch of other men were then that's a hundred percent within the right
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it's his own preference nobody yeah that's fine but he shouldn't try to like convince her
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force her to have sex do you think you also shouldn't shame her you shouldn't make someone
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feel bad for you know she's already got that body count but you can't change her by fucking oh you've
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had 20 people you're disgusting okay what now do you guys think do you guys think um you know girls
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usually will stick with who they're lol paladin's donated 69 dollars she's only pure until the next
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time she takes another trip to europe once a strumpet always a strumpet any man that will
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wait for her is a moron what is a strumpet it's like thank you where does it originate from thank
05:55:08.640
you like is it a trumpet like like a sexy trumpet what is strumpet
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i think it's like i think it's a promiscuous i think it's a sexy trumpet
05:55:17.760
panel di includes lower the training bar would you rather have a police officer respond to your
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home invasion that fires kill it can handle the situation or a dei higher that could cost lives
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no female cops i'll take a female cop whatever my phone got stolen the other day
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no no that's not true hold on robert demita donated 69 dollars canadian girl you are awesome
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people were being super unfair don't worry about it brixton love you buddy thanks for the cast
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thanks robert that's super nice i want to preface i didn't have an anxiety attack because i thought
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people were really mean to me i don't give a fuck about that i just i had an anxiety attack because i
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got my it's just anxiety i got in my own head and then it started it was like a ball it's like a
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snowball it keeps rolling and rolling and then suddenly i'm thinking like oh my god i can't
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exist right now you know like that it'd be like that sometimes that's how anxiety works that's how
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anxiety works like it wasn't nobody did anything i just got in my head and it kept going it was
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i don't know you looked at me you're here how come some people put an x and brian's no no he nobody
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nobody did anything nobody made me upset nobody made me feel bad there wasn't a chatter that like
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maybe go off the rails it just it was genuinely just like i got in my head and then my head
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wouldn't stop yelling at me and then i was i needed to take a minute that's how it works that's anxiety
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if you have anxiety you know exactly what i'm talking about so what do you guys think glad you're
05:56:47.760
okay rachel or what rachel the chick who fucks like 300 dudes in europe oh i wish i had 300 dudes
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right now we have to know her body count because if it's like 100 she's like too far gone can't we
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like yeah she's just too far gone already aren't there like tons of born again virgins who come on
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the show and we it's like a same scenario yeah yeah oh i don't care where they want to see but she's
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just waiting for love if she's interested in the guy then i mean she had no problem sleeping with a
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bunch of other guys that she wasn't even interested in but then her frontal lobe developed in born again
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what if it were a reverse situation where or a guy who had like a whole phase and then he's like oh i'm
05:57:30.640
not gonna sleep so you can't like self-improve and be better and be like oh maybe that's not a good
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idea do you have to like nope too bad i'm already too far gone just gotta keep going
05:57:39.280
no i'm curious i'm curious on your take what do you do if it were a man do you guys judge men and
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women the same for sleeping around or is it just a woman problem are men capable of sleeping around
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and being okay and still starting a family i don't think obviously i don't think anyone should sleep
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around i i believe in um no sex before marriage but i do think that men and women are different and
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can be judged differently so what was that part before you said right before the marriage part what did
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you say i want one i just didn't hear you wait where do you get them just repeat what you said
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i didn't hear you like just now to yes in response oh okay yeah i said i said of course i believe no
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sex before marriage regardless of gender but she asked if i judge men and women lead or women
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differently and on the basis of sex before marriage like like if a man sleeps around a lot a woman sleeps
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on are you going to look at them differently honestly probably that's just subconscious
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mine was specific to that situation though say a man were to have slept around and then he changes
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his mind jc donated 69 ladies if you were dating a man who used to take girls out to fancy dinners
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but now wants to only take you to mcdonald's will you accept that's fine with me i love mcdonald's
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give me a cheeseburger baby i need a cheeseburger and fries what's he getting taken advantage of and
05:58:58.560
he's like maybe i should just like chill on the first dates like what's the context it's all about
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learning about personality if it's dates like that why not i don't care where we go dude if
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when we go to mcdonald's i'm in sweatpants we go to fast restaurant i'm like what about you nicolette
05:59:12.640
no yeah exactly i don't need mcdonald's it's the same logic terrible for you so i'll take whatever
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it's about learning it's like we go to ice cream like kfc well a lot of first dates are like coffee
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shop yeah same kind of i think that's nice but if it's like oh it depends on like the heart behind
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it it doesn't matter about like if he took previous girls to this maybe he got like scorned like yeah
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that's what i'm saying like what's the context he's like wait a minute i feel like girls are just using
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me because i take him to nice fancy dinners they got a group chat on the side who cares well there's
05:59:42.160
also an in-between you know there's like applebee's and stuff it doesn't have to be there's apple
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oh it's about i think it's about getting wow there's joey's maybe like maybe that's kind of
05:59:53.520
the vibe where it's like oh like haha yeah let's see what the girl's into like and if she's like no
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you have to take me somewhere nicer first date it's like oh maybe you guys aren't met for each other
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i feel like i would know i would know it when i see it if someone if either party is being manipulative
06:00:08.320
or just kind of like oh i'm not gonna do that i feel like you know when you see it it does
06:00:13.280
oh it's whatever you touch for first date if he said we're going to mcdonald's would you go
06:00:18.720
first date we're going to mcdonald's no but only because i don't eat mcdonald's it's gross i'd be
06:00:23.680
like hey can we go anywhere else like chick-fil-a okay so so first date like fast food would you go
06:00:29.040
no i need to know if you're like a cool person first but if he's like hey i just don't think you
06:00:34.160
ever deserve anything nice i'm like you know what maybe we shouldn't date he's just he's just asking
06:00:38.400
you're feeling you're feeling someone out i don't think there's anything wrong with a simple date
06:00:42.560
you know that's just a bad way to like test somebody like you can see my character on an
06:00:48.160
appropriate date that's not mcdonald's you don't have to pay all that you're also assuming that
06:00:53.760
mcdonald's is a decent date so like you're like what if like you guys don't you don't like his
06:00:59.040
character you're assuming that he's going to take you to this like hundred dollar place or whatever
06:01:02.720
and then he feels your character and you don't like him seems kind of like entitled i'm all for like
06:01:07.680
show effort and you know be courteous but it seems presumptuous to be like you better take me to
06:01:12.480
you know a michelin star restaurant that's what she's looking for and that's what she's looking
06:01:16.000
for in the long run why would she go on the first date that doesn't align with that 100 bringing it
06:01:20.560
back to the you fucked 400 men sky radio 69 question for the mormon did you ever soak if so who was
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your shaker also jesus is king fjb hashtag voting for all felon hashtag fuck feminism drizzle drizzle drizzle
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you screwed up the uh the sprinkler you screwed it up uh but
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no and that is not a thing what does that mean you don't know sorry
06:02:12.820
I think you guys were discussing that a little bit
06:02:15.580
But you guys think that that's fine then, right?
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Is that a first date or is that the standard for life?
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So it doesn't make sense to take me to somewhere more expensive
06:02:38.660
I think it would be dependent on that kind of stuff
06:02:40.940
Well, here, let me paint it a little differently then
06:02:45.740
And you know that every single previous girl he dated
06:03:08.260
Yeah, so I think the way that that question is posed
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Maybe he realized financially that was bad for him
06:03:18.960
But there have been no material changes to his income
06:03:47.140
I'd have to know more of his personal reason for doing it
06:19:46.120
We knew that you were gonna go through my tweets
06:36:29.880
I don't think any of us are really truly angry at each other
06:36:31.980
Yeah I don't think there's any animosity on this panel
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Also I didn't really understand what you were saying
06:37:32.220
Disappointed with Natalie's lack of engagement all night
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Natalie you would have been very good on Sunday's episode
06:38:09.860
But this Christians can't judge thing is insanity
06:38:14.660
Jesus says to check your own sin before confronting others
06:38:30.560
There's no fucking way that even the simp of all simps would pay you $1k to have dinner
06:38:42.180
Ronald Reagan was said soldiers when they'd either give up two lives
06:38:56.940
The money I contributed is money I would have spent on $304 in person
06:39:17.740
The women that come on this show need to stop saying they don't gaff about whether or not a man is genitally mutilated or not
06:39:25.720
Especially with the standards you'll expect from men
06:39:33.920
Brain underscore has underscore that underscore fat underscore dumpy donated $25
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Wait somebody sent me a message that I was supposed to read
06:41:05.140
If it means we can get his critical and deep-sighted wisdom and advice back on the show
06:41:30.800
Steve is a martyr of a tyrannical abuse of power
06:41:37.580
The house sergeant to Tom's needs to arrest Garland
06:41:50.320
Madison OF proves to me that women are never happy
06:55:13.100
You think any of these guys watch the pod and they're like
06:56:57.740
Alright guys we're gonna let these last few messages come through
06:57:12.120
We only have a few more months till this shit ends
06:57:22.320
Soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soo soi soi soi soi soi soi soi
06:57:37.920
To see if your viewers actually want to see the Bumble section
06:57:41.480
Because most of them seem like they don't want to see it
06:57:50.140
Starting from Blue Top with really nice cleavage
06:58:07.740
Brian with beard equals Hagrid from Harry Potter
06:58:11.880
Brian without beard equals year one Harry Potter
06:58:26.580
Natalie, fuck the haters, I loved your presence here
06:58:31.400
If he wants to come back on, he can come back on
06:58:49.440
I'd literally get on my knees and bark like a dog for you
06:58:58.580
Brian, I come home from working in a 100-degree auto factory
06:59:04.340
Also let me know if you want me to send you a drug test kit for the Canadian
06:59:16.140
An American love story by Eric Klopper is a bulletproof case against
06:59:23.980
Educate yourselves and make sure you never essay your future male infants
06:59:45.220
I did want to read it because it was interesting
06:59:50.360
He says, I can tell you having spent 13 straight hours in heavy combat
06:59:54.640
There's not one woman dead on the battlefield or in this village
06:59:59.280
And about 130 enemy combatants scattered around
07:00:11.720
You live in the first world and have no idea what a bear or what a combat would look like
07:00:22.060
But he was overseas somewhere for combat things