FERAL Feminist RAGE QUITS？! Andrew Wilson HEATED DEBATE! House Of The Strumpet! ｜ Dating Talk #170
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have a special guest on the show, Kate Paloma. She's a 20-year-old college student living in Santa Barbara, California, and working at a clothing company. We talk about what it's like to be a college student in the big city, how she got into the clothing business, and how she's planning on going to law school in the fall.
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the shit in like 10 minutes to go watch that. Who knows? Anyways, disclaimer, the
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views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever
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channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests
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introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, and
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occupation starting with you. Go ahead. My name is Kate. I am 27 and I am from
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Indiana and I do only bands. All right. Welcome. My name is Paloma. I'm 20 and I
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literally live in Isla Vista. You go to UCSB? No, I just graduated CC. Are you
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going to transfer to UCSB or? I will be doing that eventually. Like in the fall
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or? Can I have you scoot your microphone this way or scoot your chair that way?
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Sure. Taking gap year, going to UCSB the following year. Okay. But you're going to be
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living in IV? I live in IV. Okay. For the gap year? For the gap year. Okay. Yeah. All right.
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What are you studying at? What are you studying? I'm a psychology major. So I transferred with
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my psych. And that's what you'll be doing at UCSB? I'll be doing sociology. They don't
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have psychology. Sociology at UCSB. Okay. What about you? I am a student and I am a
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courtesan at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. My name is Lauren Roses and I focus on tantra and
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hypnotherapy. Yeah. Age? Oh, I am 31. Okay. And now I had a question for you. You've been
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on the show a couple of times. Yes. What, like four times, I think? And you're a courtesan.
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Yes. Have you, I'm just curious, have you received from the, that you can directly source coming
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from your appearances on the show? Yeah. Have you had clients? Yeah. Yes. From the
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whatever podcast? Yeah. Yeah. They're very nice. How many? Oh, I mean, I can't count. That's
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how many. Can't count. You've been busy? I've been busy. We've sent you a lot of business? I've
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been, I've been very busy. But you know what? I will say this. It, you know, they, they come
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seek, this audience comes seeking a specific service. Yes. They like tantra. You got a lot of
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tantrics in here and a lot of couples. Couples? Yep. Got a lot of people that want to experiment
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with tantra and couples. So that's, uh, yeah, I could show you. How many, like, what do you
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think? Like a hundred from the, whatever? Yeah. I mean, at least. What? Yeah. A hundred
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people, a hundred viewers? Yeah. I would think, I would think so. Yeah. Like, do they tell you
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they're like, Hey, what's up? I saw you on the whatever podcast. I want to utilize your
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services. Yeah. Well, everything's private, but I mean, I would definitely. Yeah. Yeah.
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But, but everything like, you know, from, if I was to like block out the words and then
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have the message, whatever, like say how many people did it, it was definitely over a hundred.
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Absolutely. More than 200. Probably. Holy shit. I mean, it's been like a year. Wait, so hold
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on a couple other questions. So, uh, yeah. So what's that thing called? Attorney client
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privilege? Attorney client. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you have like hooker client privilege?
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We're sorry. Uh, like, uh, courtesan. Courtesan. Courtesan client. Wait, what is it? What is
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hooker client privilege? Wait, what's that? Well, you said you can't. Oh, well, I just don't
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disclose anyone's name or anything. But, but, but if, if you were to tell me like how many
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said the word whatever that was specifically related to the podcast, I could pull up, like
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I could count the word one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. And so
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wait, are you typically booking them? Like they'll message you on Instagram? Is that typically
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ranch? Oh, through the ranch. They'll hit up the ranch and they'll be like, yeah, I saw
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Lauren on the, they like Tantra. You got a lot of Tantrics in here. They're curious. That's
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what it is. They want Tantra and, and they like it. That's good to know. Yeah. That's good
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to know. You got a lot of experience. People are interested. I don't know if that's
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a good thing or a bad thing. They're curious. They're curious. They're curious
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about any virgins. Have you? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You've got virgins. They're curious
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about their sexuality. Yes. It's, it's fun. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, you've been on
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the show a couple of times and, uh, you know, you're, you know, despite what you do, you're
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probably one of the nicest guests, most pleasant guests we've ever had. I've been through a blender
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of life. So I think that, I think that probably helped a little bit. So if they are gonna go to
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a prostitute, it's legal, they are gonna go to a courtesan. I mean, I kind of got to
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give you, do I give you the endorsement? I don't know. Well, I definitely will, you know,
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I don't endorse prostitution, but if they're gonna do it, I feel like they're kind of like
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they're gonna probably, I'm gonna get in trouble for a second. They're gonna have like a good
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experience, you know, cause you, you seem like, uh, you know, you're a professional,
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you're a consummate professional. So, yeah. I have to be able to give a hundred percent.
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A hundred percent. If I can't give a hundred percent, then it's not worth it. It's not worth
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my time. Like, like, and like, if I'm tired, I reschedule. Yeah. And then I give a special
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because I cannot be tired when I'm having an intimate moment because then I'm thinking
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about myself. You gotta, it's game day. Yes. It's fucking game day. That's what they taught us
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in the retreats. They said, you have to be here. And I remember my coach, like, so one
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of my coaches, uh, well, he's not a coach, but he's, uh, he was actually, he is a tantric
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practitioner and he actually fought in Afghanistan and went to the war and he recovered using tantra
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and he's very good, but he always is like, stay with me, stay with me. Like, you know,
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he recovered from the war. Uh, he had a lot of trauma and he recovered. He, he had a lot of
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through the war. Yeah. No, but he, how did he, through tantra? Well, cause tantra, like
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through sex. Yes. And, and through intimacy, like, uh, being present, like tantra teaches
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presence. Presence. Yeah. A hundred percent or nothing or it's not worth it. A hundred
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percent or nothing. All right. Yeah. All right. There you go. What about you? Um, my name
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is Lillianne. I'm 19 and my occupation, I guess I'm a student and a music producer, but I guess
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that's also what I'm studying is music production. So that's what you're studying both worlds.
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Yeah. Where are you from? I grew up here in LA. I grew up in LA. Gustavo donated $69. A
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UDA S toy in the basement. Cannot blink. It's dark. Send help. Poor favor. Yeah. Uh, we, Gustavo
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has, has been kidnapped. So. Uh oh. Yeah. He's still got 69 bucks. Yeah. He should have
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called the police. Thank you, Gustavo. I mean, uh, and you said you had a funeral this morning.
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I did. Um, my really good friend passed away last year yesterday. So that's honestly why
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I was more than fashionably late was cause I had a funeral this morning for my very good
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friend. May he rest in peace. I'm so sorry. Yeah. Sorry to hear that. That's life. I don't know.
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He's in a better place now. That's how I like to think of it. Like he has people that care
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about him. It's definitely hard, but he definitely has people like me that care about. I mean,
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obviously, but like, yeah, you, this is somebody you like grew up with or not grew up with.
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I say, um, sorry, he was a musician. Um, so I, I met him this year, but he was, he was a dope
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person. He was, he was awesome. Like he was just one of those people, like where he walks
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into the room. Like, like it's like a light, you know, if that makes any sense, like whatsoever.
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But yeah, he was, he was awesome. He was a, he was a great person. He was a great artist.
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So he passed away yesterday. Yesterday. That's crazy. And you're doing this props to you.
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Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. That's why I was like fashionably late. Wait, hold on. Uh, wait,
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he passed away yesterday and the funeral was today. Is it normal for a funeral? The turnaround
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on the funeral? It could be. I've had gone to a funeral. That was like a two days turnaround
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time. That was kind of, I mean, I had the same thing kind of happen two weeks ago where
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I also knew someone who passed away or it was my friend's dad who passed away and they
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had the funeral a day after. I think it has to do about the embalming. Some people don't
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believe in embalming. And I think that's what it, yeah. Yeah. That's fair. I mean, yeah,
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honestly, I guess it's different for everyone, but yeah. And wait, he was a musician.
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You said, yeah, like famous musician or he was, he was, he was well known. I wouldn't
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say like Michael Jackson, but he, he was, he was, he was known. And was it, was it like
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a guy you were dating? No, I wasn't dating him. He was just, he was a good friend of mine.
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Like I, I would just, he would be at the studio and I would be at the studio and we were kind
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of like, I guess in the same vicinity and that's kind of how we became friends too, through
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mutual friends. But yeah, I mean, I was, I wasn't dating. He was just a, he was a good
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friend of mine. He was a dope person. Wait, are you sure he didn't like pass, you know,
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he didn't pass like a couple of days ago and then you heard about yesterday or you passed
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yesterday? Yesterday. What time? Um, I heard that something was wrong in the morning and
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I was, was he in the hospital or something or? I'm not too sure on the details, but kind
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of, I'm not quite sure, honestly, but. Was it a, like an OD or? I honestly don't know
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honestly. I mean, I don't know if that's like appropriate to ask. I don't even like want
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to know the answer, honestly. I just, it's, it's fair. I just, I hope that he's in a better
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place, honestly. I don't even, I don't even know if I want to know cause I feel like that
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like make it like feel worse, you know? How old was he? Um, he was young. He was in his
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twenties. Okay. I've just never heard if I've never heard of somebody passing and then
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the funeral arrangements being made for the following day. As somebody who's been to funerals,
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I've never. I know. I haven't either until literally last week. Like literally last week
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on the right donated $69. Hypnotize Brian to work his big dumpy. Okay. What do you spend?
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Oh, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Um, what about you? Well, my name's Josie or Josie with
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the work. Um, I'm an artist, uh, hustler, um, singer, songwriter, model. That's really
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what I do. Age? Um, 25. All right. And, uh, where are you from? Oh, I'm from, uh, Wisconsin
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actually, like super up North Wisconsin, but I live out here in LA. I'm trying to think
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what is, uh, Wisconsin. Like Milwaukee, Milwaukee Bucks, Green Bay Packers. Okay. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah. But you, how long have you, uh, how long have you been in LA? Uh, I've been
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in LA for five years now. Okay. What about you? My name's Grace. I'm 18. I'm studying sociology
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at UCSB right now. And right now I'm working on campus as well. All right. Uh, sorry. You
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said you're studying what again? Sociology and minoring in psychology, which is like, like,
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that's so cool. Yeah. All right. What about you? Uh, my name's Allison. I'm 30 and I work
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for a technology company. I think that's it. 30 tech company. Where are you from? Um,
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oh, I'm from Texas. Texas. Okay. I grew up in Wisconsin though. Yeah, but I've been living
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in Texas. Uh, 45 minutes South Milwaukee. Okay. Like, uh, Racine or like Kenosha or something.
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McWanago. Shout out. I'm Abigail. I'm 20 and I'm a leasing agent. And occasionally I coach
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boys gymnastics. You said 20, right? Yeah. Okay. All right. Welcome everybody. Guys, Andrew
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Wilson will be joining us a little bit later on. Yo TV Spectre. Thank you for the gifted
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subs. Andrew Wilson will be joining us via call in a little bit later on during the show.
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He had a couple of things, uh, going on here, but fear not. He will be joining us. So we're
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going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship? Saddest.
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So are you single talking stage situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,
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polycule, sex cult, whatever it may be. Uh, and, uh, Oh yeah. So if you're single,
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how long have you been single? Wait, I'm sorry. I'm going to pull a Larry David here.
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Was there really a funeral? Just if you're lying, just be honest. Like it's okay. Yeah.
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There's really a funeral. I won't be mad if there wasn't. It just seems a bit dubious.
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No, I mean, I understand that. I mean, I didn't think I'm going to come off like a massive asshole
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if there was a funeral. It could have been as the religion, the religion, some religions don't
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like embalming fluid. And I don't know which religion at some cultures, they don't do embalming
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fluid or what? You might just be a massive asshole. Honestly, could be, I mean, could be you're
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being honest. Well, it's pretty, it's rare, but it does happen. There's some people that,
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that it's, some people don't. I honestly don't want to know, honestly, cause I feel like that'd
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make it arguably worse. I mean, occasionally. Well, I don't know if someone does. Jamaican
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culture, they can't amputate like, like, well, that's why Bob Marley, he didn't want to amputate.
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So, I mean, I'm sure that there's embalming fluid. You have to be natural. Like it depends
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on what culture it is. That's very true. Yeah. I think that's why, honestly, what happened
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two, three weeks ago now that, that affected me a lot too, but like, I don't know. It's been
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like, it's just been a crazy three weeks for sure, but they had the funeral, um, two days
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after and I missed it cause it was so soon and I felt terrible. Yeah. If they probably
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don't believe in embalming fluid. Yeah. It honestly depends. I don't know what religion
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they were though. I don't know what he was. Look, the only reason I'm kind of questioning
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it, it may be totally valid. I could be wrong. I could be an asshole. The reason I'm questioning
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it. You are. Could be getting cremated. So the reason I'm questioning it is because you
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guys were scheduled to be here at 4 PM. You guys were nearly two hours late. And then the
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fact that you found out like he passed yesterday as somebody who's been to funerals, I've never
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of the funerals I've gone to, I've been to like 10. It's never been the next day.
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That was my first next day funeral too. I've been to, I think four funerals through my
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life, but it also wasn't a super formal funeral. It was like people who cared about him. They
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gathered and kind of like held like a ceremony, like in the morning. Did the family reach out
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to you? I didn't know his family. Well, then he lived out here alone. How did you get invited
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to the funeral? How did you find out? Mutual friends. It was like a friend funeral. It was
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mutual friends. Well, like he didn't have family. There were no family there. I didn't know him
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well enough to question his family past, but I knew him well enough to show up to his funeral
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the next day. But I mean, typically there's family that's going to arrange a funeral. Some
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people don't have family. Some people don't have good relationships with their family. I'm
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not sure. I'm sorry. Can I interrupt? Why is this something we're even like trying to
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like figure out? Because truth is important. That is very true. That is true. I mean,
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yeah, but it's also like a private situation. That is also true. I don't really know why
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you're trying to like pry into it. I do know her friend died. She was at a funeral this
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morning. Definitely she's not lying about that. Yeah. You don't know her. She's crying
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all night. I don't know why you're trying to like. I had to drive so she could get ready
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in the car. This is really what happened. Like, I think that's weird. I think it's fair
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to ask questions under the circumstances. I mean, it's fair, but it's weird. Okay, cool.
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I'm just assuming there's no embalming food. He could be cremated. And that's what I'm
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assuming. Anyways, we'll move on. I'll accept it. But I have a couple questions. Anyways,
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relationship status. So if you're single, how long have you been single? What's your
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longest relationship and your current relationship status? Go ahead. I am currently in the best
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relationship I've ever been in. And we've been together almost two years, which is also
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my longest relationship. Okay, two years. And it's not an open relationship, correct? No.
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Okay, you guys are monogamous, correct? Carolina girl 13 donated $69. You boys ever met a real
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country girl talking true blue out in the woods down home country? Come on. Let me fix you
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be. You'll love it. Sounds like a song. Let me fix you. I like that. I don't need to be fixed. I'm
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good. I'll stay how I am. Thank you, though. Brian learned to speak English donated $69. English
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is my second language. My sprinkler goes like this. What's your first language? Yeah, what's the
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first? French. Oh. So you're from America? I'm a citizen. Have you been to the Eiffel
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Tower early? Wow. That's really cool. Something in French. So, I mean, I was born in France,
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but then I moved. Hey, guys. Stop. Born in France, but then I moved to the U.S. when
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I was five. Mm-hmm. So. That's really cool. I'm in Eiffel Tower. Oh, have you been to the
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Jim Morrison? What's up? What's up? Why are you laughing? Because I asked them to stop. I
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know. I just thought that was kind of funny. Because I asked them to stop. I don't know why.
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There's just a lot going on right now. Look, so we didn't have, because everybody was so
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late. That was because of me. We didn't have time to do the pre-show. But so one of the
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things we typically tell people during the pre-show is no sidebar conversations. Unfortunately,
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because we're starting so late, Nick didn't have time to do the 10 to 15 minute pre-show
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that is requisite to make sure that we have a good production, a smooth show. One of the
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things, so she didn't know, she knew, because she's been on the show before, is you don't
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have sidebar conversations while somebody else is talking. It's just a rule of, you got
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a weird, you got a bad attitude. Just like, I'm just explaining the rules to you. I don't
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need the attitude. I can take blame for that, though. Like, everything that's happening
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right now. Yeah. Like, this second. Yeah. Why is it on me? Sorry, guys. Why is it on
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me? She's talking. Don't take the blame. Here, can you, why don't you just repeat it? No, don't
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take the blame. Wait, what's happening? Because I was, I mean, when you were late, you were
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late. You were late. Okay, I didn't see. All right. So, held the show up, man. Okay, your relationship
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status? Single and situationship. Longest relationship? Like a year and a half. Okay.
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So, how long have you been single? I guess, like, ten months? Carolina guy 14 donated $69. Sign
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me UPPP. Please be fit, though. Drop the Carolina girl 13. Please be fit, though. Okay. Cool.
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Thank you, Carolina girl. Appreciate it. Thanks for your TTS. So, wait, you're single slash
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situationship. Yeah. You've been single for ten months. So, just a couple points of
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clarification here. So, how long have you been in this situationship? I don't know, like
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six months or something. Six months? Yeah. Okay. And are you, since you're single, are you
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entertaining other options? Hold on. The Bronaissance donated $69. I guess why Scott
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Peterson killed his wife. These women make life horrible for the soldiers out there. You
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crazy for that one. Can you please bring up how perfect Patrice O'Neill was? These women
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are brainless. Can you pass me that picture back there? Yo, Bronaissance, good to see you
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back in the chat, man. That first part's pretty crazy, bro. I don't endorse. I disavow the
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domestic violence. But W. Patrice O'Neill, rest in peace. Can I get some RIPs in the chat
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for Patrice O'Neill? Gone too soon. Here, you just hold him for a couple minutes, I guess.
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Just, okay. So, you're, what's your orientation? Straight, bi, ban? Bi. So, you date men and
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women? Yeah. Okay. And the situationship, is it with a man or a woman? A man. Okay. Given that
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you're in a situationship and you consider yourself single, are you dating other people?
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No. During the six-month period of time that you've been in this situationship, have you
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dated other people? No. Slept with other people? Yeah. Hookups? Yeah. So, like, one-time
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things? Somewhere like two, or one was a two-time thing, but. And so, is it kind of, you've been
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seeing each other for six months, but you're, it's open on both ends then? Yeah. Like, it's
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not, it's not exclusive, it's not monogamous? Yeah. Okay. And so, are you currently seeing,
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like, when I say seeing, like, are there other people that you're currently involved with,
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hooking up with? Okay. Do you want more from this situationship, or are you happy as is?
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I honestly, like, do not know. Sorry. Um, I honestly don't know. Have you ever had a conversation
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about, uh. Oh yeah, multiple. Well, who, who initiated those conversations, him or you?
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Both of us. And so, how would those conversations go? Just kind of like, what the fuck are we
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doing? I don't really know. Do you want a date? No. Do you want a date? Yeah. Do you want
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a date? No. Do you want a date? Yeah. Wait, has this been, like, on again, off again? It's
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been just kind of, like, he wanted to date, I didn't, I wanted to date, he didn't. So,
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on again, off again, just, like. Wait, uh, just so I have the order correct, he wanted
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to date, you didn't, then you wanted to date, he didn't? So, he was interested in, like,
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a title first? Yeah. And then you turned him down. Is that correct? Yeah. Okay. Why,
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why did you turn him down? I don't know. I was just, like, freshly out of relationship.
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I was not mentally stable by any means, so. When you say fresh out of a relationship,
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so, how, how long was that relationship? Like, a year. A year. Okay. So, I mean, how
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fresh, like, was he your rebound, kind of? Um, I wouldn't really call him that. I think
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maybe at first, but then. Well, so, how soon after your one-year relationship ending did
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you meet him? Two months. Two months. Okay. And then you also said you were not in the
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mental place. Yeah. What do you mean by that? Like, I just, like, my relationship was super.
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Wait, hold on. We need you to, like, straight because you're ducking behind. Okay. That's
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good. Perfect, perfect. Go ahead. You said your mental condition was not great? Yeah, I mean,
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the relationship was just super mentally abusive, and I just, like, already have dealt with mental
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health issues, so I just, like, felt like I wasn't really in a place. How did you mentally
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abuse him? Girl. You said, oh, you said it was mentally abusive. How did you abuse him?
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Um, well, I didn't. Oh, okay. That wasn't specified. Uh, how was he mentally, what, can we, well.
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I would not like to elaborate on that. Plead the fifth. You don't need to give us specifics,
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but can you tell us, uh, what can you, well, can you define mentally abusive then? No. You
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can look it up. Y'all can look it up. Y'all old enough. Well, I could look it up, but it might
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not correspond with your assessment of the meaning of that. Well, um, I think, you know,
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people can look up what mentally abusive is. There's a lot of manipulation that goes into
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that, different forms of it. Um, that's all I'm really going to say. Was he physically
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abusive? I'm not going to speak on that. Were you physically abusive? No. No. Okay. Um,
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so in that case, it was not. What underscore, underscore, waste, underscore of underscore time
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donated $69. Just kick the girl in the green shirt. She clearly doesn't want to be there
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and is just going to be a burden to the show. Get rid of her. So the people who want to be there
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have a better time. So true. We'll make it work. We'll make it work. It's all good.
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Lol Paladins donated $69. Love the show. Off to a good start. Calling out lies made the other woman
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uncomfortable because they know when other women are lying. She'd be a good wing woman for a cheater.
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Always trust your gut. What? Cheater? English. Y'all all cheaters. That's real. Oh, man.
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She said she was a hustler. Accountability. Accountability, you know? Accountability is
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kryptonite. So, okay. Um, so you were in a situation-ship for six months. Uh, and so not
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currently, but previously you were like kind of seeing other people at the same time, but
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this guy's been like the most interested that of the other people that you've been in. Uh,
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do you, uh, I guess during that situation-ship or like any previous dating experience, like
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would you consider when you're seeing multiple people, did you have a roster?
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What 20-year-old doesn't have a roster? Like, let's be real.
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Chair 2, green shirt, is going troll and keep up a BTCH vibe. Maybe Andrew will set her straight if she lasts that long.
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Oh, look. She's, uh, it's good. She'll love it. Wait, you'll love it?
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I love it. No, she loves it. There you go. All right.
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I feel like we're like all like chilling. Like nothing's ever that deep.
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The magnesium's really got to me. I'm just kind of like, you're going to go like cry now.
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It's all good. Like she's a bit sassy. I'm a bit sassy. It's all good. I'm in my drizzle, drizzle.
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I'm in my soft, soft guy era. So drizzle, drizzle.
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Uh, so I'm a little sassy. She's, she's matching energy. She's giving it back. It's all good guys.
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We're going to have a good show. Don't even trip. Uh, so anyways, okay. So you had a roster.
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You said, uh, what 20, 20 year old college girl doesn't have a roster. Yeah. Um, that's
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a fair point. Uh, what's like, uh, like it, what's the biggest the rosters ever been? We talking
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because I feel like you got Riz. I feel like you got game. So I feel like you, right. And
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you date men and women too, right? It's true. Yeah. So that's like double the pool of people
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you got. Absolutely. Like that's the Tinder pool is huge, huge, huge, big. Okay. What's
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the biggest the rosters? I don't like know what you mean. Like three people, four people, five
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people. Oh, I just, guys, I just don't know. Like give us a range. It doesn't have to be an
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exact number. Maybe like 15 or something. 15. Like people I'm actually like considering like to
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like kick it with or like people I'm just like, I guess we got a serial donated 69. We'll define
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roster for the panel. Can you explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern society in
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your viewpoint and experience? I got something to say about that. Uh, hold on. We'll get to that
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kill. I'm going to read that. We're going to get through or I'll, uh, save it. I'll pull
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it back up in a bit. Uh, we need to get through the relationship stuff first though. So I'll
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get that pulled up later. Um, what the fabric of American culture is. Oh, this is a dating
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show. Okay. Hold on. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll have it. I can answer that one. Uh, so, okay.
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So for, uh, a roster, right. So how about like just people not necessarily hooking up with
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well, so break it down two ways, not people you're hooking up with, but people you have,
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uh, you're like talking to. Like seriously talking to her or just like respond to them
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like, uh, you're messaging. Like it could, it could have been like, you've been talking
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for a couple, a couple days from a dating app. What do you mean by talking though?
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When I say like literally talking, like having a conversation. Yeah. Like you're conversing.
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Oh, I don't, I do that with just like one person and then all the other. Hold on. I meant
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literally talking. Yeah, no, no, I get what you're saying. No, you're thinking figuratively
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talking. What does that mean? So we're, we're talking would indicate like some further degree.
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Yeah. No, I'm telling you it's usually just one person. Right. But so I'm talking, I'm talking
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about literally talking. Yes. Literally talking. Literally talking is talking right now. No.
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Yeah. I get what you're saying. No, but you said you had a roster of 15 people. So I mean,
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I just snapshot them. Right. But so you're literally talking to them. No. Cause
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we usually don't talk like this. No, I don't mean literally in person. I mean, literally
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just conversating, whether it's Instagram, dating apps. Maybe twice, twice at most. I don't
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really do. But you said your roster was 15. Well, I thought you meant roster by like how
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many people I'm Snapchatting or how many people like are into me type thing. But I'm assuming
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they could reciprocate the interest. But I'm assuming if they're into you, you guys
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have conversated. No, a lot of them are very boring. No, but no, no, no. But okay. So when
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you say they're into you, they must have expressed their interest in some way. Yeah. Via a
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communication. It's usually like Snapchat. Yeah, that's fine. I'd, I'd put that in the talk,
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your talking category. Um, it's usually just like, okay, so I'm going to put it like this
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for you. I usually Snapchat without words. What, what do you mean? Like just kind of
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like a face snap or like, you just send photos. Literally. You'll just send a foot, like you
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just do emojis or whatever. Maybe you have my cat, you know, it could be something. I don't
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know. Okay. The floor, even the wall, maybe. And you, do you put a caption? You put a
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caption? Sometimes I'm like, look at my cat. Sometimes I don't say anything. Um, uh, okay.
00:34:24.480
Yeah. It's like, uh, um, but you know, and I don't really respond to them like until 15
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hours after they respond to me. That's like intentionally. Not intentionally. I just like
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don't care to talk to them. Oh. So that's usually like around like 10 people. So it's like,
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are you sending like nudes to these guys or? Absolutely. I am not. Do not get it
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twisted. I'm not sending it. It's literally just like a picture of the wall or like of
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like my cat, which is a real cat before you want to twist that around too. But how did
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they get your Snapchat? From Tinder or from Instagram? I don't know. Well, do any of
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them, have you met them in person? I've met a couple in person. Usually when they're
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really weird, I don't add them when they're not, I just kind of keep snapping them. So
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in terms of, cause you said you were in the situation, you've, you're still in the
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situationship that you've been in for six months, but you would like be dating, sleeping
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with other people. So like at any given time, what's the most amount of people that you've
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been like hooking up with at the same time? Two. Have you ever done like two in a day?
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No. Like a 24 hour period? No. 72 hour period? No. A week? Yeah. Week. Okay. So a week. Okay.
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All right. Killer of cereal donated $69. Let me specify the question. After your opinion on the
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fabric of culture in America, how do you think it affects the modern dating society? Part two.
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I got an answer for that. We'll get to that in a bit. So, okay. Related to dating
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culture. Okay. So you have two X of those. I'll write that down. All right. So, okay.
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And is the guy who you're in a situation ship, he's also a student?
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Is he staying here for the summer? No. Are you guys going to do long distance or is that a wrap
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then? I don't, I don't know. Wait, is he, cause everybody just graduated? Did he graduate? No.
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Okay. So he's like a sophomore or? He's my age. Okay. So like junior going into his junior
00:36:29.900
year or some shit? Yeah. Okay. Something like that. Something like that. Okay. Is he in
00:36:35.380
school? Mm-hmm. Okay. And so you guys gonna, is he dating other girls? Um, I mean, I don't
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know about dating, but definitely fucking. Is he, he's fucking other girls? Doesn't bother
00:36:48.940
you at all? Depends on the girl. What do you mean? It just depends. On what? On the
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girl. Like if she's, does it bother you more if she's more or less attractive than you?
00:37:02.720
That doesn't have anything to do. No, no bearing. What, then what would be the, uh, maybe if
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she's clean or not? Um, I mean, yeah, that as well. Like if she's white, like does, is it
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a race thing? You know, I'm white. No, I, that's fine. But maybe you, that, I don't
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know. That's the stupidest question I've ever been asked. Um. Okay. Why, why is that
00:37:24.140
the stupidest question? Cause that's just like stupid. Like it's 2024. I don't give
00:37:28.140
a fuck if he fucks a white bitch or a black bitch or someone who's Asian. Like I literally
00:37:31.840
do not give a fuck. Do you want him to be monogamous with you? Do I want him to be
00:37:36.340
what? Monogamous with you? I have a question. Yeah. Okay. Question. I've got, I've got a
00:37:40.620
question. So I sometimes, if a man like that I'm interested in says he gets with an older
00:37:45.340
woman, I start getting kind of feisty. I'm like, wait a second. Like what, she got that?
00:37:49.040
Like sometimes, sometimes I'm like, yeah, he's gone with an older woman. Sometimes like I
00:37:53.900
get kind of like, it's like, Ooh, like that, like I don't really experience, like, I guess
00:37:58.180
would say jealousy, like for looks or anything. But I will say if someone like gets with someone
00:38:02.180
that's older than me, I'm like, why do I got like some sort of like anger about it? Like,
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I don't know. Like, like I keep it to myself, but what is that? Like she did get with an
00:38:10.140
older woman. I didn't really care. I honestly was more like, dude, like that's weird. I
00:38:15.520
feel like I can't compete with an older woman. Like, I don't know. Like I just, that's how
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I feel. Like, I don't know. I don't feel like the way I view, you know, like a man I'm involved
00:38:23.540
with getting with other women. It's not really like a competition in my head. I don't really
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view it as like, Oh, she's prettier than me. I don't know what it is about the older thing.
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Yeah. Cause the prettier never got me, but the older thing always did.
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He is so real. All right. Thank you for that. I love that comment. Personally. Okay. Thank you.
00:38:57.340
Appreciate it. Okay. So what, Oh, I've never, so what is the differentiating factor then?
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Just like the type of person they are. Like if you're going to get with somebody who's
00:39:07.140
like really, let her answer. Go ahead. Just like, like a freak, honestly. Wait, if the
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girl's a freak, not okay. Here's the way I say, I don't say freak like as in like in the
00:39:17.020
sexual way, just like a weirdo. Like, like her outward appearance or personality. No, it's
00:39:21.840
never about appearance. You got to get rid of that one. Um, it's literally just about
00:39:26.280
like their personality. Like if they're just kind of like strange, like, I don't know,
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like just like immature, like immature. I don't know. Like, I don't know how to explain
00:39:36.240
it. Like if you're just like a weirdo, like I'm going to kind of be like, why are you fucking
00:39:39.280
with her? Like, but what, like, is he introducing you to these chicks? Like I, that, I was going
00:39:47.300
to say, have you ever got caught? Oh wait, is this like, do you guys like, is it a threesome
00:39:52.040
type thing? No. Cause you're into girls. So maybe. Nope. But like it, if I was inclined.
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I mean, he's not introducing me to these girls, but like we were open, you know, it was, it's
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a friend, it's been a friends with benefits for a while. So. But so if, if I was inclined
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to, uh, keep a girl in a situation ship for six months or she wasn't interested or, you
00:40:14.260
know, if I was trying to fuck multiple different girls, it wouldn't occur to me to tell the main
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piece, like show her pictures of who I'm fucking, tell her about the other girls I'm
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fucking. So I'm just confused how you've come to like, how you've come to kind of been
00:40:30.820
like open about it. I don't really know. So like, he'll, like, he'll be laying in bed
00:40:34.640
with you after he fucked you and be like, here's Tiffany. What do you think? Like that
00:40:40.300
kind of, what do you think? But it'll be like, Hey, I fucked this girl, you know, a while
00:40:44.800
ago. And he'll tell, so he'll tell you, I'll be like, Oh, who is she? Like, you know,
00:40:48.560
so he'll show you the, he'll show you the IgE or what? I mean, I usually ask, I'm, I'm
00:40:53.360
curious. Okay. Like I'm a nosy person. I'm a nosy person. I've got a question and
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I've got an answer. So let's say you, you meet, you meet up to hang with him and you
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guys haven't yet hooked up for the, for the meetup. You and the guy in the situation
00:41:11.840
ship. Yeah. Like you, you're meeting up and he, I don't know if this has occurred, but
00:41:16.020
he reveals to you before you guys have sex. Hey babe, this past weekend, I fucked
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this chick. He doesn't call me that. Okay. Um, pumpkin, whatever you want. So here, here's
00:41:29.760
and then you make the determination. Oh, that's a goofy bitch. That's a goofy bitch. And then
00:41:35.500
do you, do you choose to not fuck him after he reveals that he fucked a goofy bitch based
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off of their pictures? No. Okay. Uh, whatever you, you said she's weird. You said that she's
00:41:46.140
weird. I think you're like taking it from a standpoint, like she's not in a relationship.
00:41:49.800
So it's like, they kind of just do, we do what we want to do. It's better than like,
00:41:53.440
it's going to be honest. Like, like I, when I said like, I don't even know if she really,
00:41:57.640
yeah. Yeah. But you said, you said you feel a certain type of way. You get kind of twisted
00:42:01.560
twisted. If he's like, I don't get twisted. Okay. Whatever. Do you ever like, hold on.
00:42:05.880
Stop, stop, stop. If she feels like it's a goofy bitch. Yeah. She's like, why are you
00:42:09.380
like, if I've met the girl and I know her, so she doesn't have a right to really even
00:42:13.080
trick. Oh, you know, you know, some of the chicks that he fucks. Maybe. Oh yeah. I mean,
00:42:17.060
if I know like the girl that he's fucking or he wants to fuck and I think she's kind of
00:42:22.400
like, I, like I met her like personality wise, I'm like, she's kind of strange, you know,
00:42:26.160
like she's like, something's wrong. Yeah. Um, I'm going to be like, that's weird. Like
00:42:30.860
if you fuck her, like we're not going to be fucking. Oh, okay. So you, if, if he did
00:42:35.200
fuck her, wait, but don't you only find out after the fact, if he fucked her, like he's
00:42:41.960
telling you beforehand, Oh, excuse me. Is it okay if I fuck this chick? Like he'll ask you
00:42:47.180
for the co-sign. Like honestly, yeah. That's so much better than like not being like, we're
00:42:53.080
very much open. Like I'll, I'll let him know who I'm interested in. I'll be like, yo, this
00:42:57.300
guy texted me this. Like, I don't know. What do you think about it? He'll be like, this
00:43:00.340
girl texted me this. I'm kind of into her. And we kind of just go based off of that.
00:43:05.020
Like, it's not like a super like crazy situation. Okay. The Brawnaissance donated $69. I don't
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agree with stoning, but the vibration bimbo is dumber than a bag of rocks. Question for the
00:43:17.840
panel. Would you risk going to war on the frontline or give up your right to vote? Who is the
00:43:22.880
vibration bimbo? Yeah. Who is the vibration bimbo? I'm not sure. I'm not sure who the
00:43:27.420
vibration bimbo is. I would like to know. Who let us know? Slide another 60. So actually,
00:43:33.440
yeah, let's find out. Before we come back to this. So his question is, would you risk going
00:43:38.540
to war on the frontline or give up your right to vote? Now, recently, I think it was this
00:43:44.840
past couple of days, the house of representatives passed something where men between the ages,
00:43:50.880
I believe it's 18 to 25, 18 to 26, are automatically registered for the selective service.
00:43:58.660
It's pretty much hasn't changed anything. You had to, all men between the, once they hit
00:44:06.140
18, they had to register for the selective service anyways. But now they're just automatically
00:44:10.340
registered. I don't know if it really changes much. I'm going to have to look into it.
00:44:14.760
But it is kind of topical. So again, the question, would you risk going to war on the frontline
00:44:22.620
or give up your right to vote? I'm giving up my right to vote because I'm weak and I will
00:44:29.180
die the minute I go on the frontline. Don't say that. Okay. Whatever. What about you?
00:44:34.400
I would not last on the frontline. So you'd give up your right to vote? I would. Okay.
00:44:42.360
So currently, because I'm in the embodied work and I'm disabled, I would say no, I guess
00:44:49.140
I'd give up the right to vote. I'd have to. Yeah. I would have to go with the frontline.
00:44:53.760
So keep your right to vote. Keep my right to vote. Go to war. Okay. What about you?
00:44:57.420
Um, I would probably, uh, be on the frontline too. Oh yeah. I would if I wasn't. I'm all
00:45:03.820
right. Wait, wait, hold on. Before I have you answer, you two, can you hold up your fingers
00:45:09.980
like this to the camera? Okay. You got longer nails than her. Those nails are not, they're
00:45:17.280
going to have to go. I'm also a violinist. So I have like mad precision. Wait, you're a violinist?
00:45:21.460
Why didn't you bring your violin, bro? I don't bring my violin. Yo, can we get a fucking
00:45:27.100
violin? Nick, do we have a violin in studio? No. Fuck. That'd actually be true. I mean,
00:45:31.660
like I would have brought it, but I just like both of y'all. Like, are you good though?
00:45:34.680
Yeah. Seriously. That was like my life. Ooh, I like those. You got it. Why don't you tell
00:45:39.340
me this shit? I don't know. Like I was really a nerd like that. Like, I don't know. But
00:45:42.480
okay, go on. Hold on. Guys, guys, guys, guys, stop. Okay. Sorry. No cyborgs. Yeah. No cyborgs.
00:45:47.080
I'm sorry about that. I really do. Okay. So your nails, they're going to have to go. I mean,
00:45:53.080
oh, like in general. Yeah. I don't think that's allowed. But I feel like Katana from like Mortal Kombat. I don't think
00:45:56.840
is allowed in the military or whatever. Okay. That's fine. Give up my right to vote. Give
00:46:02.380
up my right to vote. Oh, give up the right to vote. Totally. I'm giving up the right to
00:46:05.700
vote. I want a family. What? Okay. I want my kids to have a future. Yeah, for real. Exactly.
00:46:11.820
I feel like if I have any daughters, I don't want them to be, you know, fighting for their
00:46:17.560
rights. I would fight for the rights. You die in five minutes though. So like, it wouldn't do
00:46:22.560
that. Ooh, I tried. I actually was kind of worried. I actually was, I was kind of worried
00:46:27.700
about the draft because my brother's 16. So I'm kind of worried about that. I'd rather
00:46:32.400
be with a man. That's fair. But if I have to choose. That's fair. I don't want to be
00:46:34.660
eaten alive. I could get counseling after being sexually. Yeah. What the fuck?
00:46:39.200
Guys, no sidebar, please. Oh, well, they don't know. Okay. Um, so. We didn't get the rules
00:46:47.100
read to us. Okay. Okay. Well, she was saying something important. I was worried about the
00:46:55.540
draft because my brother's 16 and he wants to be in the military. And so, but he, I told
00:46:59.540
him, I said, I'm going to train. I'm, he, he knows Muay Thai and he knows, um, martial
00:47:03.960
arts. And I told him, I said, I want to pay for like the best trainer for you. Despite
00:47:07.340
like, I don't know if you're going to go into it or not, but I told him just yesterday, I
00:47:10.260
had that conversation and he's very mature. So I'm, I'm confident he's going to do well.
00:47:15.420
Yes. I wouldn't be worried. My, my dad was in the military, so he, you know, he's very
00:47:19.180
supportive. Yeah. So I got a question for you. So you, you, do you currently live in
00:47:23.580
this area? Yeah. And you go to the Santa Barbara city college. Not anymore. Well, you
00:47:28.620
graduated, but you're planning to, you're taking a gap year. Then you're going to go
00:47:31.820
to university of California, Santa Barbara is, uh, is kind of the situation you find
00:47:38.940
yourself in where you've been in this situation ship for six months. You've had
00:47:43.380
roster. You've had periods where you're dating multiple people, hooking up with multiple
00:47:46.720
people, doing the casual hookup thing. Would you say that's pretty common among like your
00:47:51.300
friend group? Um, I mean, some people in my friend group are in a relationship. Some
00:47:58.200
people aren't. So yeah, I guess maybe for the single people. Like, yeah. Yeah. Moving beyond
00:48:03.920
friend group. Like if you had to kind of look into your peers. So I guess people that are,
00:48:10.980
you know, freshmen, sophomore, juniors in city college, UCSB, would you say it's more common
00:48:17.240
than not to be in kind of your situation ship as compared to like long-term monogamous boyfriend
00:48:22.100
and, you know, dating? I honestly, I feel like it's half, half and half out here. Like I've,
00:48:26.620
I know tons of people who are in situationships, tons of people who are just single doing their
00:48:30.080
own thing. And I know people who are in like super committed, like going to move in together
00:48:33.760
type of situations. So I think it's, it's half and half. It just depends.
00:48:40.020
Got it. Okay. And what about you? Your relationship status?
00:48:44.820
I am single. I'm single currently. I've been single for a while now.
00:48:56.740
Longest relationship, I would say about like, maybe like two and a half, almost three years.
00:49:04.980
And, but right now you're doing the courtesan thing.
00:49:09.500
I am. So technically I had a question. Am I, if I'm a relationship based courtesan, real
00:49:14.980
talk, and I have repeat clients who I've seen for years, technically, am I in a relationship
00:49:24.040
I mean, if they're, they're paying, they're paying.
00:49:28.200
I'm not going to lie. I don't know what a courtesan is.
00:49:33.740
Yeah. It's legal in Nevada. In Nevada. Um, I work at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch in Nevada.
00:49:51.720
You were supposed to talk about that afterwards. No, I'm just kidding.
00:49:55.620
I just, like, I literally just, like, don't know what that means.
00:50:00.120
They have a Moonlight Bunny Ranch, and so it's a legal brothel in Nevada. And where people
00:50:04.400
can go, um, it's completely legal. There's porn stars that work there. There's people that
00:50:09.720
are just, you know, uh, certain, there's also dominatrixes that work there. I'm just more
00:50:14.580
like, I do the Tantra and the embodiment, but they have everybody there. So it's a safe
00:50:18.160
place. There is 100% discreet, 100% everybody's in. It's, yeah, you just pay and you enjoy.
00:50:33.140
Um, right now I'm single. What was the next question?
00:50:38.060
Oh, longest relationship and how long have you been single?
00:50:40.700
Right. Um, I've probably been single for about like, I want to say eight years.
00:50:44.580
Eight months, nine months now. My longest relationship was a year and a half.
00:50:48.720
Longest relationship. All right. And so you've been single for nine months. Was the relationship
00:50:54.220
that ended nine months ago, was that the 1.5 year relationship?
00:50:57.680
No, the 1.5 year relationship. It was in, it was in high school. So I think my junior
00:51:02.040
to senior year of high school. And then, yes. And then the next one was the most recent
00:51:11.700
Um, honestly, we were both super busy all the time. Like too busy to tend to each other's
00:51:17.240
needs and see each other and shit like that. So I'd pretty much be working every single
00:51:22.060
night and I go to school every single morning. So it was just like, I don't know. I, we just
00:51:30.080
And so in that nine months that you've been single, what is the scope of any dating experiences
00:51:37.960
you've had? Have you had like a short-term thing in that period?
00:51:40.880
Um, I'd say kind of short-term, I guess, but it wasn't really that, it wasn't even that
00:51:53.540
Like of people that want to talk to me or that I'm interested in talking to?
00:51:58.120
Uh, I think the best way to look at, how about just people like you're in a one month period,
00:52:05.420
people that there's a continuity and you're hooking up with them.
00:52:10.300
So like multiple people that I would hook up with. I don't really see myself as like,
00:52:17.840
I've always said this, but I don't know why my mom said the same thing. It's like, she's
00:52:21.860
like a one man woman and I don't know why, but my brain is like trained to think like that.
00:52:25.760
Like I just, I just don't think. And I've like, I've tried like casually hooking up and
00:52:30.040
stuff like that, but it's just like, I don't know. It's just not for me. Like it just feels
00:52:36.620
Like I was interested in someone and we both were too busy for a relationship, too busy for
00:52:41.800
the label and stuff like that. But we both like, we were both cool with each other. Like
00:52:45.080
there, we were just cool. We were on some friend shit, but, um, yeah, it wasn't that
00:52:51.240
it wasn't serious like that or anything. Like we were honestly, it was just like friends with
00:52:55.520
Okay. So right now you've been single for nine months. You had maybe one or two things in
00:53:00.420
between. Uh, is there currently any guy in the picture right now? No.
00:53:06.200
Yeah. Not, there's nothing. There's not a single band. Not even a guy you've never
00:53:09.860
even met, but you're talking to. I mean, no, I mean, there are people that I'm interested
00:53:13.620
in, like Fernando Tatis Jr. I mean, like, if he's, sorry, uh, who the fuck is that guy?
00:53:19.920
Who the fuck? Are you a Dodgers fan? Huh? Are you a Dodgers fan? Oh. Baseball?
00:53:25.720
Oh, that type of name. Are you a Dodgers? I'm sorry. He's a baseball player. People watch
00:53:31.520
baseball? Girl, that's my team. That's my team. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
00:53:36.080
you. Go Padres. Exactly. Go Padres on God. Yeah. Go Padres. Yellow and brown. I believe
00:53:40.340
yellow and brown. People love baseball. I wouldn't be here. I will get like slander for
00:53:43.300
my wearing my hat, but like I will still wear my hat. The Dodgers picture. Wait, so you
00:53:46.880
have a crush on a professional baseball player? Yeah. Are you talking to him? I mean, I wish.
00:53:53.600
I mean, like if he sees it. Well, then he's not. Is that the American dream though? Like,
00:53:57.220
you know, like that, that kind of thing. No, there's no. Wait, have you slid into his
00:54:00.260
DMs? No, but. Oh, I should right now. You should right now. You should right now. You
00:54:06.460
should be like, hey, like if you see this, like. You should be like, watch me up. And
00:54:10.100
I think you need to text me. Or I could be like, I can like a bunch of his pictures. That
00:54:14.460
or I could be like, I could try to strike him out. And then he might DM me. I'm going
00:54:17.700
to try to strike him out. I just have to lose the nails first because I was a pitcher. But
00:54:20.880
I don't know if he could hit underhand like that. Wait, you played softball? I did play
00:54:23.660
softball. Period. What's your, what's your orientation? What do you mean? Orientation.
00:54:28.720
Oh my gosh. Do you date men? Do you date women? Are you bi? How is that stupid? Are you bi?
00:54:34.340
It's just a stupid, like, like, that's just like. I'm straight. Huh? I'm straight. Okay.
00:54:38.580
Why is it? Why is that stupid question? Because that's just like a, what's it called? Like
00:54:41.100
a. Stereotype. Stereotype. Yeah. Stereotype. What was the fourth op in the polyamorous
00:54:45.540
sexual thing? Yeah, whatever. Hold on. You don't have any stereotypes? Like about what?
00:54:51.160
Everyone has them. Do you stereotype people? Yeah. I mean, yeah, but I think, I just thought
00:54:55.860
that was a stereotype. What do you mean? Like it was just a stereotype and I was just like,
00:54:59.880
oh my God, that's like a stupid stereotype. That I made. Yeah. But there typically tends
00:55:05.500
to be some truth sometimes to some, not all stereotypes, but. Yeah, but it's not even that
00:55:10.280
serious. I was just like, oh my God, you know? Like I wasn't like, oh my God. Kind of sounded
00:55:15.740
like you were a little triggered by, by it. Well, guess what? I wasn't.
00:55:24.600
Huh. So is it like a common stereotype for softball players to be bi? Like what? Oh,
00:55:30.200
actually, yeah. I don't know why, but like most of my teammates, like they have been like
00:55:33.300
bi. I don't know why. Like, I don't know why. And I respect it. Okay. Why don't we ask
00:55:36.900
the source here? Yeah. Was there a higher proportion? Was there, was there a greater
00:55:42.740
in comparison to the broad general population of the women that you played softball with?
00:55:49.600
Was there a higher proportion of women who are either bisexual or lesbian?
00:55:53.880
Um, honestly, cause I played soccer and softball. So I can like really compare it like soccer,
00:55:58.760
soccer, soccer, like there were like more, the population was straight and then softball
00:56:04.140
was more, honestly, I'd say lesbian as opposed to bi. Or I mean, both. Sure. Yeah. I mean,
00:56:10.020
just like an overall statistic. I don't know why I respect it.
00:56:16.720
I actually kind of feel like that. Like a lot of my like my homegirls played softball in high school.
00:56:23.880
Okay. So there's no, no guy in the picture then? Not right now. No. So you've been,
00:56:29.920
have you been celibate for nine months? What's, I'm trying to get an understanding of your current
00:56:33.400
status here? Um, I have been celibate for probably, I want to say five of those nine months.
00:56:40.020
So I was celibate for a while just cause I wanted to get my money. So you've been celibate for the
00:56:43.980
past five months? Yes. Okay. I wanted to focus on myself, get my money up and then focus on
00:56:49.200
Get your money up. Yes. Get the money up. Is that, do people not say that over? No.
00:56:53.360
In Santa Barbara? Okay. People do. Get the money up. I don't know. I listened to Pearl Jam. Wait,
00:56:56.760
where are you from again? Sorry, no sidebars. Where are you from? I grew up in LA. Okay. So I guess,
00:57:00.820
I don't know. Valley girl. Can you see? It just, it sounds like you're from the Bay.
00:57:04.720
The Bronisons donated $69. I'm speaking for the boys. Kick the second chick to the right out of
00:57:11.680
the panel now. She's an abomination to the world. Abdul, please get the rocks and bring on the
00:57:17.520
fucking Comet. Get the rocks. Abdul, get the rocks. Get the rocks. An abomination to the world.
00:57:24.100
Don't. Work. We'll see how the show goes. We'll see how the show goes. What about you?
00:57:32.940
Oh, okay. Well, it's a question. I'm single and... How long you've been single?
00:57:39.500
For like a year. And your longest relationship? Was five years. From what age to what age?
00:57:47.560
From 17 to 22. Wow. What happened to that? Um, well, actually it was my, my baby daddy.
00:57:56.380
Oh, you have a kid? I have a son. Yeah. Okay. Just one kid? Just one kid. Yeah. He's, um, six.
00:58:01.980
Oh. Can you scoot into the table a little bit? Just, uh, scoot, like scoot the chair in?
00:58:07.200
Are you able to? Is he in the kid's life? Yeah. Yeah. My baby daddy's a really good dad.
00:58:11.760
Just one kid. Were you guys married? We did get married at one point. Oh, okay. Like, uh,
00:58:17.720
who initiated the divorce? Uh, kind of both of us. I mean, he filed for it, but I mean,
00:58:25.940
we both didn't want to be together. So it was kind of mutual. Did you get married before or after you
00:58:31.300
had the kid? After. After. How long were you married? Um, about, well, we weren't, we separated when
00:58:39.040
I was 22, but we didn't divorce until I was 24. So, I mean, I don't know what you want to consider
00:58:44.720
that. Well, so you said you've been single for one year. When you say you've been single for one
00:58:48.320
year, was that you counting the divorce? No. I mean, I'm counting. So you were dating somebody else?
00:58:53.800
Yeah. I dated somebody else. Okay. I see. Yeah. All right. And then, um, did you guys have split
00:59:00.260
custody? Yes. Like 50-50? 50-50. Okay. Yeah. We didn't really like bite each other on anything. You guys both
00:59:06.080
live in LA? No, he lives in Wisconsin, actually. We did both live in LA together. Well, wait,
00:59:11.020
how do you guys have 50, the kids with you or with him? Well, it's kind of weird, like the court
00:59:16.640
agreement. Um, we have like a weird, unusual court agreement, but it's like, I'm supposed to have my
00:59:22.600
son for like three years. He's supposed to have him for three years. I take him for four years and he
00:59:26.160
takes him for four years. It's kind of like, it's weird. It's very weird. Does the kid like go back
00:59:31.000
to the other parents on the holidays? I've heard that. Yeah. Well, honestly, right now my son is
00:59:35.900
with, uh, my baby father and I go up there like once a month and I always go for holidays and
00:59:43.360
birthdays, of course. So are the three years, like your son lives with your baby father for
00:59:47.640
like three years straight, you visit him like on holidays and stuff? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean,
00:59:53.440
it's kind of like, like, for example, I'm supposed to take him for the summer. This clean shirt girl
00:59:59.500
been on her phone on and off and it's only been an hour. If she doesn't go, can't wait for these
01:00:04.220
Caucasian to destroy her. Nick, can you grab her phone, please? Yeah, we got to collect the phones.
01:00:09.380
God damn it. Uh. It's true. You got me. I got me. Poor man.
01:00:14.720
Now the snitching is crazy. That was crazy. That was fucked up. That was fucked up. Yeah, that was fucked up.
01:00:20.180
Say it again. The camera wasn't on you. That was messed up. No, you can. Okay.
01:00:26.220
And it's probably past his bedtime. It's a little grumpy. Yeah. Uh, okay. So.
01:00:30.400
I'm at a museum for him. And you're a musician, correct? Yes.
01:00:34.700
Okay. I said the music. I want to do, uh, are you, what kind of music do you make?
01:00:40.560
Um, I make like pop music. I actually started out. Are you a rapper? Uh, I like to rap. Yes.
01:00:51.720
You should? Uh, I don't really want to. That's fair.
01:00:56.180
I don't want to embarrass myself. I mean, you have to, like, you have to, like, pay. It's
01:00:59.220
not, it's, like, premium. It's, like, you know. Yeah, it's not free. Like, I give her.
01:01:01.840
I actually do like to freestyle, but. She does, like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like
01:01:06.340
what artists, you know, unless they're going on, like, a, you know, like, a radio type show
01:01:11.360
or whatever, and they're, they're coming on there to freestyle. What artist is just like,
01:01:15.140
like, oh, let me just freestyle. Unless it's like, mm, I mean, I get, I get exposure. So
01:01:19.320
maybe I should just do it. I think you should. Yes. But also, if you don't want to, no pressure.
01:01:23.700
Like a perk. No, I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm playing. I would
01:01:30.700
have loved to hear more. Okay. Uh, so where were we? Uh, are you, have you ever had a roster?
01:01:38.320
Um, um, kind of. Like, I guess when I was single, like, I kind of was, like, may the
01:01:50.020
best man win. I mean, right now. Yeah, literally. That's what it is. But I kind of have, like,
01:01:58.080
high standards. So, like, my roster is very much full of, like, who can do the most for
01:02:02.380
me, like, type of thing. What do you mean? Like, I'm just, like, I feel like I'm getting
01:02:07.240
older. So I just feel like I've, after a certain age, you've got to, like, mature up
01:02:12.680
and only date people who can, like, actually help you in life. Like, I don't know. Rather
01:02:17.960
than just dating people because, oh, he's nice to me. Like, in six months, he might not
01:02:22.380
be nice to you. You know what I'm saying? So I just feel like wasting your time. There's
01:02:26.960
no point in wasting your time. Like, you might as well find somebody who, like, really wants
01:02:30.620
to, like, invest in you and, like, help you. When you say invest in you, what do you
01:02:35.560
mean? Like, pay my bills. You know what I'm saying? What are your bills? I have a lot
01:02:42.800
of bills. Rent, my car, insurance, phone. What are your monthly expenses? My rent.
01:02:50.900
Honestly, well, I have a roommate, but my rent without my roommate is, like, $5,000, but
01:02:55.600
I paid $2,500. Are you guys roommates? No. No? Okay.
01:03:00.620
So you said your car? Yeah, which is $5,000. Your rent. Your cell phone bill? What was
01:03:06.820
the other stuff you want a guy to pay for? All of that. Well, just can you... My hair,
01:03:11.900
my nails, my lifestyle. Here, let's do this. Just so we have a better understanding, tell
01:03:18.760
us, like, itemize this shit. Okay. My rent's $2,500. My car payment's $530. My insurance
01:03:25.760
is, like, $300. Let me think what else I got. My phone bill's, like, $200. My Wi-Fi
01:03:31.080
is probably, like, $50. My electric bill's probably, like, $100. So, yeah, that. And
01:03:36.960
then I like to travel. I mean, I pay for everything by myself, so if you can't do that, I don't
01:03:42.420
need to waste my time with you. That's just how you do that. You got it on your own.
01:03:45.020
So, have you ever been in that sort of situation where a guy did pay for all that stuff? Yes.
01:03:52.900
Definitely. Can I ask, if you're wanting a guy to pay all your bills, what do you feel
01:03:59.000
like you are bringing into the relationship if he's doing all of that? Because that's
01:04:03.140
a lot of bills. My pretty self. That's what I bring. I know that's right. And I'm pretty
01:04:06.560
smart. You know what I'm saying? I'm a hustler, so I get money. I feel like most men that I've
01:04:11.060
dealt with, I brought a lot of value into the play. War Seapoo donated $69. Number
01:04:18.460
eight is the most attractive. Number three coming in second. Number two definitely has
01:04:24.080
HPV. Stay far away, fellas. Brian, keep the dumpy. Drizzle, drizzle. Drizzle, drizzle.
01:04:30.380
Question for the panel, cut or uncut? Okay, we're going to come right back to what you're
01:04:35.940
talking about. So, his question is, circumcised or uncircumcised? Do you have a preference?
01:04:42.780
Starting with you, go ahead. Circumcised. I don't really care. For health purposes, circumcised,
01:04:49.300
just so they don't run into health issues or any infection or anything. This is for like
01:04:52.940
somebody to be interested in eating. Yeah, yeah. Circumcised. Could eat their way. Circumcised,
01:04:56.980
for sure. Circumcised. My husband. Period. What's the answer? Your husband? Yeah, the... Yeah,
01:05:05.840
whatever he got going on. So, whatever he got. Yeah, exactly. That is what I want. Okay.
01:05:09.400
She's not trying to put his business out there. May I ask how long you've been married? It's
01:05:13.480
been a little over a year now. Oh, my God. Um, wait, so, would it be a deal breaker if he
01:05:22.840
was not cut? Are you asking me? No. The whole panel. Yeah. Because all of you said cut.
01:05:29.340
Is it a deal breaker if he's, uh, uncut? Yes. Deal breaker. I don't think I've ever been
01:05:34.360
with a guy who has it, so. No. For health purposes, I would say, yeah. Health purposes.
01:05:41.940
Scientifically, there's more bacteria and buildup under there. Well, there can be. There can
01:05:47.180
be. I mean, unless if you clean yourself right, but you know what? A lot of these guys don't.
01:05:50.300
A lot of them do not. A lot of them don't. And I mean, it's not. Have you ever encountered
01:06:02.440
It was unclean? I would say yes. I mean, it wasn't consensual.
01:06:11.380
I'm not getting into anything. I'm not, I'm just, that's just a statement.
01:06:14.720
That's a statement. Wait, I'm just curious. I'm not saying what topic.
01:06:18.020
Was it at, like, were you at a party when this happened, or?
01:06:23.240
Uh, I don't think I've ever been with someone who wasn't, so.
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Beaten Cheeks donated $69. The delusion this singlehood mother states. Cash at me $4,000. Pay
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All right, thank you, Beaten Cheeks. And we also have LPEs about to come in here. Wait,
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Okay, quick answer. Deal Breaker, if he's uncut.
01:07:16.420
Um, oh, I don't know. I've never been with somebody, so, like, that wasn't, so I don't
01:07:32.420
Were you just not here for the question? I can repeat it.
01:07:36.720
There's a 50% chance that this is the right answer.
01:07:39.720
Would it be a Deal Breaker for you if the guy was uncut? Circumcision?
01:07:53.120
Um, so, and actually, I'm gonna have to boost the TTS here. We've already gone over the first
01:07:58.640
30 minutes. I'm gonna get in Kill of Serial's questions. We'll come back to your thing. We'll
01:08:03.100
come back to relationship status. Kill of Serial asked, can you explain? God damn, bro.
01:08:08.480
Okay, I'll do it, man. Can you explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern
01:08:13.240
society and how you think it affects modern dating society? Start with you. Go around
01:08:19.480
I'm not gonna lie. My mind goes completely blank when you ask that question. So, well,
01:08:25.320
That sounds like it was written by ChatGBT. Not to lie.
01:08:31.680
Yeah, yeah. So they were asking, how has modern society, how has it changed dating? And I have
01:08:38.300
a couple things that... It has definitely changed dating.
01:08:40.680
Okay. So we're getting a lot of... So, I mean, I obviously, you know, am in the adult entertainment
01:08:45.980
world, and I've done OnlyFans and all that, but I don't have one anymore because I don't
01:08:51.000
believe in the commercial... Brian needs Xanax donated $16,000. You've got to get on some
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manga management pro LMFAO. You get stressed... He needs some magnesium. He needs some magnesium.
01:09:02.640
He needs some magnesium. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, so yeah, the magnesium. That, dude,
01:09:07.140
that got me chilling. Yeah. Magnesium? Living. Yeah. You just relax, you know? And so they
01:09:15.600
asked what was the... How has modern dating changed the landscape? In the 90s, we didn't
01:09:22.900
deal with all this crazy stuff happening on the street. You know what I mean? Like, we
01:09:25.940
didn't get these crazy reports in the 90s. Like, maybe they happened, but probably it was
01:09:29.140
like one in 200. Now it's one in like 10. Yeah. We're getting a lot of rags to riches stories
01:09:34.820
because the whole OnlyFans things, it... What it does is I've done OnlyFans before. I don't do it
01:09:40.460
any longer just because it's very difficult for me to keep up with the consumption of the
01:09:47.140
pornographic material. I believe that, you know, with certain things. So we're getting a lot of
01:09:54.400
people who never had money get money. And now we're watching their reactions in society, which is we
01:10:00.040
are watching, you know, they go on a plane and they're like, oh my gosh, you're being a jerk to
01:10:04.880
everybody or you're doing something. They go, well, I have a million followers, whatever. And I make
01:10:08.080
money or whatever. And I've seen this. And, you know, we're going to get that because this is their
01:10:14.440
first encounter with a large amount of money and it can really change the way that certain people
01:10:19.080
react. I am really, really tired of watching women... Okay. If you're going to do bedroom stuff and
01:10:24.040
bedroom nude lingerie, whatever, do it in the bedroom. Don't do it when... I've seen people walk out,
01:10:29.240
not in bikinis, in full-on lingerie, in public, in front of families. And it really pisses me off.
01:10:34.300
I really don't like that. I've never done that as a model. I've only gone out in a bikini at a beach.
01:10:38.700
Like, that's it. And I really think that that behavior actually needs to stop. I think that it
01:10:43.780
distorts things for people and it puts parents in a really precarious search situation of having to
01:10:49.580
explain what that just was. Why did they watch a person with like a gag ball in their mouth? And,
01:10:55.960
you know, one of my... Yeah, that's one of my concerns. So, I think that it affects dating
01:11:01.020
because these kids watch this behavior and they see these people walking around in broad daylight
01:11:07.320
with like, you know, lingerie on. And they're just like, mommy, what is that? And this mom's like,
01:11:11.180
fuck, I gotta explain that? Like, now? Like, to this? Like, how am I going to explain this? Like,
01:11:15.520
a six-year-old? Like, good God. You know? And it's... Have some... You know, I don't believe in
01:11:20.200
shaming people because shame is stored in the body and it can lead to diseases. But I do believe
01:11:24.740
that there needs to be a healthy amount of shame to keep the common decency of society going.
01:11:31.360
Do you feel like a lot of... Romances... You know, because like influencers and, you know,
01:11:37.060
like tons of people are all on OnlyFans and like posting stuff, like they don't really know...
01:11:41.780
They don't know. They don't know. They've never been trained in media. So, we look at K-pop stars.
01:11:46.060
So, I've been trained in media. So, I work for a PR company and I've been trained in media. I've
01:11:50.360
been... My family's been in entertainment for over a hundred years. And the Rosas family has been
01:11:55.060
there. However, there's certain people in the Rosas family that I can't disclose because they're in
01:11:58.640
children's entertainment. And I don't want to risk, you know, I mean, even though I'm in adult
01:12:02.200
entertainment and it's completely legal, I don't want to risk their jobs. So, I don't want to say
01:12:06.200
that. But a lot of these entertainers really need to look into media training because these K-pop
01:12:10.080
stars, they're groomed to be a star. And not like groomed in a bad way. They're molded. They're
01:12:14.280
manicured to be a star. You need media... Absolutely. And that's negative. And that's
01:12:19.640
negative. But manicured is the word I should have used. No, yeah. They are manicured to
01:12:24.380
be stars. And you need to be manicured to be a star because you represent... If you represent
01:12:29.860
something of people like you, you probably should do media training. Honestly. Especially
01:12:33.160
in the adult film industry. Exactly. I absolutely agree. I mean, I'm all for supporting that and
01:12:37.300
doing what you want to do, like whatever career path you want to take. But... Oh, here.
01:12:42.680
There you go. There you go. Oh, okay. Speak straight. Yeah. Like look at Abigail if you're
01:12:46.760
speaking. Looking at Abigail. What was I even... They need to be manicured to be celebrities
01:12:52.740
if they really want to do that. And they really need to like dedicate their life to it. I got
01:12:55.380
to move things on. Okay. Sorry. Damn. Were you guys actually answering the question or did
01:12:59.740
you guys... Yeah. No, I answered it. Yeah. Did you... Did you guys answer? No. Yeah. I don't
01:13:04.740
even remember the question at this point. Well, it affects dating because that's what people
01:13:08.700
see on television. And that's how they read... I think there's a lot of political agendas
01:13:11.780
that definitely are going on. Hold on. Guys, guys, guys. Hold on. I need you guys to be
01:13:15.380
paying attention. I mean, you left. It was... I literally asked the question right before
01:13:21.220
I left. And it came in multiple times. Okay. Yeah, but there was... It was a very, very big
01:13:26.160
question. It was a... It was... We were having a good conversation over here. Tell you that.
01:13:37.860
After your opinion... Wait. Okay. Can you explain what the fabric of American... Kill it
01:13:44.160
if cereal. I fucking love you. This is... I'm already tilted. I'm already tilted today. This
01:13:49.060
is a dog shit question, but I'll ask it. Okay. Explain what the fabric of American culture
01:13:55.920
is in modern society and relate it to modern dating. I want to say, I guess, the fabric...
01:14:03.200
You got it. Please. I'm sorry. Kindly speak into the microphone. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
01:14:06.400
I'm sorry. She was thinking. Lo siento. No. If she speaks, she needs to be in the fucking
01:14:11.140
microphone. You don't need to challenge me every time I'm trying to get the show on the
01:14:15.580
fucking rails. Do you understand? But it's just kind of fun. Yeah. How about you don't do
01:14:19.460
it and just fucking drop the fucking attitude? Go ahead. I just don't want to. It's about
01:14:23.760
getting heated. I was going to say the... Oops. Sorry. I got the claws. Anyway, I was going
01:14:29.440
to say that I think the... Honestly, I think the biggest issue right now is arguably social
01:14:34.660
media, especially the way it portrays young minds and dating, like pornography and stuff
01:14:40.720
like that. And that's so common. Like Twitter just legalized porn and there's nothing wrong
01:14:44.620
with it. But if it gets found at a young age, like per se, like I first found it by accident
01:14:49.760
when I was like 12 and I was like, what the fuck is this? Like, so I think that that
01:14:53.620
honestly, like, I don't want to say it like poisons your brain, but it kind of does if
01:14:58.780
you're unaware of the repercussions of that, especially if it's found at a young age. So
01:15:05.920
I guess the internet pornography and the way that that kind of portrays that affects modern
01:15:10.300
dating. Completely agree. Yeah. What she said. I agree the same. I agree the same. I think
01:15:19.820
that casual sex and just being so casual situationships, I think it just allows people
01:15:28.180
to be unhappy and be used. And people, in my opinion, will pretend to be like a certain
01:15:35.320
type of girl to keep a guy sometimes because they think that's what he will like and they
01:15:40.120
don't want to lose him. And they think maybe eventually he will like them. And social media
01:15:44.000
is pretty much all fake. So I think people, yeah, just too casual about sex and love. And
01:15:51.640
I think it's kind of ruined our generation. It was very true. Definitely. I think social
01:15:56.460
media is definitely ruining it. I feel like it's dividing men and women a lot. I mean, women
01:16:02.260
are being told that they don't need a man. They're being told to go get the bag, to be independent
01:16:07.020
women. That divides them. Men are, I mean, I've seen a video and the comment section was.
01:16:18.800
Dude, holy shit. Calm that down, Brian. Take some deep breaths. You're more agitated than usual
01:16:22.680
today and it's annoying. They aren't being that dumb. Really, bro? We're not. Thank you. He needs
01:16:27.840
a Xanax. Bro, I'm just going to be honest. Like this is one of the most fucking feral days
01:16:33.540
we've had, dude. What is feral? Like what do you even mean by feral? Like you're kind
01:16:37.020
of feral. How am I feral? These girls are fucking nearly two hours. These two girls are two
01:16:41.280
hours late. My friend died. Yeah. If you could just like have any type of sympathy, that would
01:16:46.380
be amazing. But what do you mean by feral? Why don't you just Google what feral means?
01:16:51.340
No, but I'd like you to elaborate it in this context. No, I think you can just Google it.
01:16:54.160
No, I think in this context, I think in this context, it's important for you to elaborate
01:16:57.860
on feral. We had two no-shows. We had two flakes. And that makes me feral, but we here.
01:17:03.920
Yeah, you've been feral. You have an attitude. So feral means attitude? I don't know. Like
01:17:11.120
I feel like if you look that up, that's not what it's going to say. Why don't you Google
01:17:13.800
it? Why don't you Google it? Sassy. It's a sassy man apocalypse, right? That's what I said.
01:17:22.500
That's what I said earlier. I know that most of you have moved through your lives in a
01:17:27.780
very sort of pampered way because of the female privilege that you all have. But I tend to
01:17:33.760
lean on this. You know, shut the fuck up. You don't need to be fucking being disrespectful.
01:17:37.840
I didn't say a single word. Why don't you repeat the gesture you were just making?
01:17:43.640
Is that not disrespectful? I just think it's funny. You think it's funny? I think you've
01:17:48.080
said a lot of disrespectful things. Give me an example. I don't know. Just like completely
01:17:52.000
interrogating her friend's death. Also just ignoring it at the same time. Like how did
01:17:57.060
I ignore it? She would speak on it. You'd be like, yeah, whatever. Moving on to the next
01:18:00.420
person. But then you'd also be like, how did they lie? Literally never said that. Like
01:18:03.380
blah, blah, blah. By the way, this is a panel show. So yeah, she said her piece. I moved
01:18:07.320
it on. I'm the host of the show. I will move things on whenever I like to. You do that.
01:18:11.960
I don't know. I guess feral in my opinion. Holy fuck, bro. This chick's a. You got a
01:18:15.980
bad fucking attitude. This is going to get you more views though. Like if I'm being
01:18:19.880
completely honest, like not on any disrespectful shit. Like honestly, if you have more beef
01:18:23.180
like that, if you want to get a reaction out of someone, which as a podcast host, that's
01:18:27.300
what you're trying to do. Honestly, I'm helping you. Yeah, no, but there's a, it's, it's cool
01:18:32.100
if you can have an actual, I prefer to actually have back and forth over, you know, actual
01:18:36.780
conversation topics instead of somebody. You think just asking girls like, oh, what's
01:18:40.360
your situation? What's your relationship? What's your relationship is back and forth.
01:18:43.940
What we were doing was back and forth. What we were doing was back and forth. You just
01:18:46.880
asking, what's your body count? What's your blah, blah, blah. How many subscribers does
01:18:50.140
your podcast have? Girl, I don't have a fucking podcast. How many? Like, do you think numbers
01:18:56.480
matter? If you're trying to lecture me over how I can make a successful podcast. I'm just
01:19:04.360
saying you want back and forth. You're not doing back and forth. Prove that your friend
01:19:07.400
died. If my friend died, I would not be on there. I would be drinking and listening
01:19:11.940
to Creed. She wasn't even going to come. Can I answer that? I told her to come. I had
01:19:16.700
a commitment. She told me to come and I was late, which I DMed the podcast and asked if
01:19:22.020
I should still come because I knew it was disrespectful to be late. But because I had a commitment, I
01:19:25.380
was... What time was the funeral? It was like 10 AM. And I live two hours away from here.
01:19:32.980
You're in LA, right? Yeah. I'm like Calabasas. Hollywood. Calabasas. I just moved back to
01:19:38.000
Hollywood. So I guess where I'm a little confused, you would have had to leave around 2 PM. You
01:19:45.560
didn't message our page until 3 18. You wrote, apologies. Me and Josie are running very late.
01:19:51.980
I was at my friend's funeral this morning. Yes. I've been to funerals. Not the day after though.
01:19:59.420
Me neither. That's why I didn't know what was going on. Right. So, but I understand
01:20:05.140
that you had this last minute thing come up, but you know, given that you had a predetermined
01:20:11.380
plan to be here, one, you could have given us a bit more notice. You would have known
01:20:17.240
it. I didn't have noticed that my friend died. No, but, but I didn't have noticed. I went
01:20:22.100
to the funeral to be respectful. At 10 AM. Is there something wrong with that? Holy fuck,
01:20:26.000
dude. She's a human being. No, genuinely. She's a human being. If your friend, no, hear me
01:20:29.560
out genuinely. Like, please. If, if I had agreed to be somewhere and something came up, I would
01:20:35.040
have just done the courteous thing and let them know, Hey, sorry, I'm going to be running
01:20:37.900
late. As soon as I found out. No. Yeah. It was a very rough morning. It was a very rough
01:20:42.760
night for me. Okay. I'm not that it was just, it was sudden. I have empathy for that. I'm sorry
01:20:48.720
to hear about it. No, you do not. I literally just said it. Shut the fuck up. So. Okay. Do not speak
01:20:54.580
to me like that. You're the one with the fucking attitude. I'm just saying you don't
01:20:57.640
have fucking empathy. This is speaking of empathy. This is the, that famous. She has
01:21:03.540
something to say. May I? Go ahead. Thank you. If you had a friend's funeral that happened
01:21:08.920
very suddenly, which I don't, I would, if I show up to the funeral, he's saying he would
01:21:13.340
have told, if I had a doctor's appointment, if I had a doctor's appointment at 5 PM and something
01:21:19.020
came up and I had to cancel it, I would have called, uh, as soon as possible and just took
01:21:25.260
it done the courteous thing. Hold on. Hold on. Done the courteous thing and just said, taken
01:21:30.680
30 seconds. Hey, I'm very sorry. Something came up. I'm not going to be able to make it.
01:21:35.540
That's it. No. Yeah. That would have been the courteous thing to do, but you were crying
01:21:40.700
all night. You were running around doing stuff, going to the funeral. You weren't even sure if
01:21:44.860
you really wanted to come because of that. You're calling me like, I'm, I don't know
01:21:49.620
what to do. I'm like, let's just go if you feel up to it. That's, and she was like halfway.
01:21:54.360
Yeah, I do. Halfway. I don't. And she was kind of like, oh, I want to, I kind of don't.
01:21:58.060
And I told her, I was like, well, I already got ready. Like, let's, like, if you want to
01:22:00.860
go, let's go. So then we ended up going, we were late. Yeah. But I mean, this girl was fricking
01:22:05.860
hurricane Sandy, whatever. Yeah. I mean, it was, I'm not saying that it wasn't, I'm not saying
01:22:11.240
that it was courteous. I definitely could have done more. And I'm a very punctual and
01:22:14.680
on-time person. I'm a student. I have worked two jobs. I have a fricking studio internship.
01:22:19.740
Like, I'm a very punctual person. I have a very busy schedule that I have to manage because I'm
01:22:25.600
very focused on my education and making money. So I do call ahead when I'm late to work. I call
01:22:30.320
ahead. But today, this specific thing, this was so sudden. This hurt me so bad that this was like
01:22:34.760
the last of my worries. And I know that that's not respectful. That's not courteous, but courtesy
01:22:38.900
wasn't on my mind. And I can admit that's not the right thing necessarily. And I apologize for that.
01:22:43.300
And I'm sorry that we were late. I'm sorry. Your friend passes away yesterday. What's
01:22:48.060
your name again? Brian? Your friend passes away yesterday, Brian, is the first thing you're
01:22:51.500
going to do when you find out your friend passes away and be like, Oh my God, whatever
01:22:54.700
podcast. I'm so sorry. I can't make it in. Like, no, it's not the first thing I'm going
01:22:58.380
to do. However, I will. No, hey, shut the fuck up. Let me finish.
01:23:02.060
So if you're going to ask my friends, no, you keep interrupting. You've been rude this entire
01:23:06.020
fucking time. I'm matching your energy. If I'm speaking, stop interrupting. You asked me a
01:23:10.520
question. You asked me a question. I was responding to your question. Do you understand? So if I'm
01:23:16.760
going to be responding to your question, you need to allow me to respond instead of just fucking
01:23:21.860
bulldozing and refusing to let me fully answer the question. So yes, if something catastrophic
01:23:28.060
Oh my God. Lulu donated $69. Perfect example of females only being able to see when they've
01:23:36.240
been disrespected, but don't take accountability when they disrespect others. Typical pampered
01:23:41.880
my feelings more important than yours. I mean, so hold on. I'll answer your question. So
01:23:47.920
yes, if I, if I became aware of, I suppose, uh, would you consider this a dear friend or just
01:23:55.220
an acquaintance, dear friend, dear friend. Okay. You known him for a year. Okay. So if
01:24:00.320
I knew, if it was a guy who I knew for a year and he was a dear friend and I found out I
01:24:04.720
would obviously be upset. I would be distraught and I would prioritize. Okay. Can I make it
01:24:09.220
to the funeral? If I had any plans for that day that required me to clear my schedule, I
01:24:14.600
would have done the courteous thing because two things can coexist at the same time. You can
01:24:18.700
be frantic and moving around when it comes to, okay, funeral plans. And you can also realize,
01:24:23.640
well, I told these people, I have a commitment. I don't know if this is just me. I don't know
01:24:28.040
if this is just, I'm crazy for trying to be respectful of other people's time. Even if
01:24:32.540
I'm going through some crazy shit, I would just do the courteous thing and just reach
01:24:36.400
out and say, Hey, something came up. Uh, I'm going to be really late. I'm going to try to
01:24:40.620
give them as much advance notice as possible. That's it. Maybe some people don't operate
01:24:45.440
that way. That's fine. Yeah. I mean, she's a little younger than you. And I also feel like,
01:24:49.980
you know, she's 19. I don't know how old you're like 30, 40, maybe, but I'm God, you're
01:24:55.280
fucking bitch. You know that? What's your fucking problem? I don't know. Yeah. So I just feel
01:25:01.380
like I'm going to have to kick her. I probably. Mexicana. I can't read that.
01:25:07.580
Okay. He was speaking like gibberish, literally. And he was, he's saying, I love tacos and Mexican
01:25:27.680
chicks. Okay. Me too. Yeah. The way, the way you're conducting yourself right now, the way you're
01:25:36.100
conducting yourself with me, have you ever conducted yourself this way with the guy you
01:25:40.440
claim was mentally abusive towards you? Did you ever conduct yourself that way towards him?
01:25:44.680
We're not going there. I don't think we're going to. Because I think it's perhaps you who's the
01:25:48.360
abusive one. Oh, wow. Yeah. Um, yeah. I don't really think you know me at all. Well, it's
01:25:58.260
interesting. You're making quite a lot of judgments and knee jerk assessments about me. I'm actually
01:26:04.660
not. I just think you're kind of like a dick. You've literally done it multiple times. I haven't
01:26:07.820
made any. Cool. So, okay, cool. I've just responded to you. I'm a dick, you're a bitch. I just, yeah.
01:26:11.680
Agree? You've called me a bitch multiple times. Have I given a single fuck? No. I've. And you've
01:26:16.000
called me an asshole multiple times. And you've given many fucks, man. You walked off the fucking
01:26:19.420
stage, so. I had to fix the camera angles. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Holy fuck, bro. Do you have a question?
01:26:25.720
What's your relationship like with your parents? With my parents? Yeah, I knew that one was
01:26:29.220
coming. It's great. I love both my parents. Are they still together? No. Okay. What's
01:26:35.940
your relationship like with your father? I don't feel like I need to tell you any of
01:26:39.240
this. I'm just curious. I'm just not going to tell you. You're just not going to answer
01:26:44.760
the question? Correct. Plead the fifth. I know it's troubling.
01:27:00.000
I'm pretty sure you just came on intentionally just a troll. I don't know. I was like in the road
01:27:06.600
and you guys just approached me, so I didn't really come on here. You guys kind of asked me
01:27:10.880
to come on, so. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But you've kind of come on with like a very nasty
01:27:15.540
attitude. Not really. I just think you kind of ask ridiculous questions. You ask like dumb
01:27:20.820
questions. And I know they all agree. You agree? No. You agree? I think. You agree? He's been
01:27:29.260
doing this for a long time. He knows how to get views. Yeah, I think he's smart and I think
01:27:33.100
he's just kind of picking at certain things. Exactly. I think. I'm not picking at. I'm literally
01:27:38.820
asking you guys about your dating history. It's a dating show. Yeah, it's not that that you're
01:27:42.740
picking at. It's totally, the questions I'm asking are totally contextual. Yeah, we're not
01:27:47.200
saying anything, or I'm not saying anything about that, but I'm more, more like just picking at
01:27:52.000
the, yeah. Yeah. Poking the bear, man. Well, I mean, it depends. That's honestly. Is she poking
01:27:58.580
the bear back? It's definitely both ways. Yeah, you're poking the bear. I'm poking the bear back. Like,
01:28:02.240
what's the problem with that? I'm not poking the bear. I'm asking legitimate questions. Yeah. I think the
01:28:08.540
fact that you're a guest. But you were asking her like her relationship with her father and
01:28:12.080
like all that. That's, that kind of, that kind of could be offensive. You're trying to go into my
01:28:17.260
like relationship. You're asking who was the abuser? What, how, what kind of abuse? Like
01:28:22.480
what kind of fucking human asked somebody that? I wouldn't even ask my like closest friend that.
01:28:26.720
You're the one who brought up abuse. You're the one who asked me why we weren't together anymore.
01:28:32.560
I said it was a mentally abusive relationship. You're like, oh, what kind of abuse? Did he hit you?
01:28:36.380
Like who the fuck asks that? That's not how I framed it. You said, did he hit you? Same
01:28:41.460
fucking question. That's not, that's literally not what I said. I asked if, I asked if it was
01:28:46.020
physically abusive. That's the same thing. Physically abusive. Did he hit you? That's the
01:28:51.060
same thing. No, it's not. The words are literally different. Oh my God. You think it's, you don't
01:28:56.060
think it's fair game to ask a question? I just feel like the questions you ask, you ask them
01:29:00.400
for a very specific reason. And I think you're strategic about what you're doing. Of course. And I respect it.
01:29:05.380
I know what you're doing. And I think you're doing, what am I doing? I think you're really
01:29:07.940
good at it. What am I doing? You're just trying to get some content and I respect that, but
01:29:13.700
I'm just not going to literally asking you guys questions. Okay. So continue asking your
01:29:19.340
questions. Well, I mean, the questions technically weren't covered in what we were DMed with the
01:29:23.200
question rack. So I think that caught some of us. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
01:29:27.440
Like there's absolutely nothing wrong with that question. I don't even know what you're
01:29:30.500
referencing now. Like, I'm just going to move on. Like what's the relationship with
01:29:33.980
my father? What's the deal with my friend's death? It's sus to have a funeral. I know it
01:29:37.320
sounds sus, but that's like, Oh, well your friend passed at two. You should have been here
01:29:41.820
at four. We're like, that's fucking weird. I know that might not be exactly what it was,
01:29:45.440
but you were questioning why she wasn't here when her friend passed yesterday. Can I say something
01:29:49.480
like, hello? Go ahead. Let's just say he was your boss and you had to be at work and someone
01:29:54.900
died and you decided to not show up. If you just say last minute, Oh, well, sorry. I had a funeral.
01:29:59.740
They would expect you. It's kind of the same thing. It's if you're expected to be somewhere,
01:30:05.740
I mean, if someone died and I had to go to work, the first thing I would do is call out
01:30:08.900
of work because I don't, I don't, I don't want to one, lose the respect of, you know,
01:30:13.540
my employer, my coworkers. I don't want to leave that shift to fall on someone else.
01:30:18.840
It's not at all, but this isn't a, this is a shift. It's not like your mind just goes blank
01:30:22.760
when those things happen. Like that's exactly what happens when you have diagnosed PTSD.
01:30:26.300
I mean, I've definitely been in situations where I was super frantic and like things
01:30:30.720
were going crazy. Like I was like, no, I'm okay. And I'm okay most of the time.
01:30:33.380
And what you're saying is that's what happened. I mean, it's a commitment to make. Like I am in
01:30:38.120
the wrong. I can admit that. And her friend did die. And I mean, to like elaborate a little
01:30:43.320
bit on it, I guess, um, you know, her friend is a artist who, um, gave her a lot of like placements
01:30:51.080
and things like that. So that's why she's really distraught about him passing because
01:30:55.700
it's not like this person was just, I mean, it was more than really a friend. It was kind
01:30:59.480
of a business relationship you guys had as well from what I understand at least.
01:31:03.420
Well, yeah, I mean, it was, but you're not really speaking.
01:31:05.720
I mean, all we're saying is if he, you know, everyone feels bad, of course, if it did happen,
01:31:10.380
it's just like, he's just saying, Hey, it would have felt better if you would have been like,
01:31:13.820
look, I'm really sorry. I should have texted you.
01:31:16.120
And she did apologize to him. So, and I'm saying like, she's 19. Like, I don't know if
01:31:21.660
you can really, not that she's probably a very, one of the most mature 19 year olds I
01:31:25.780
know, but it's just kind of like answering for her too.
01:31:29.860
Yeah. Well, because I feel like you guys are attacking her. So, and he's kind of like,
01:31:33.460
I just don't like seeing that. And I don't feel like she knows how to respond to all the
01:31:36.480
questions properly sometimes. And I'm not saying like, you're not intelligent, but I know you
01:31:40.760
haven't slept last night. And I also know you haven't slept at all. I know what's going on
01:31:45.760
with you. So that's why I feel entitled to speak on it a little bit.
01:31:49.680
You also have to understand on this topic is that we've probably had on over a thousand
01:31:55.620
guests every single week. We do show Sunday, Tuesday, mind you, I believe, I don't recall
01:32:01.360
the precise details. Uh, we've had you scheduled previously.
01:32:08.560
If I recall correctly, you let us know like two hours before the show.
01:32:12.220
Cause my car transmission blew out when I was on the road.
01:32:14.760
But so you understand, and we've had a couple of girls here who've been on the show before.
01:32:18.320
They've seen it firsthand. Some people have legitimate, legitimate excuses.
01:32:25.180
A lot of the girls who come on the show, they lie. They make up some bullshit. For example,
01:32:31.300
we have, we've had girls who've said my car, my car, uh, I had a car issue, broke down and
01:32:37.100
they'll send us a photo even. And it's local here. They'll send us, we had this, um, a couple,
01:32:42.380
a couple of weeks ago. It was a cloudy in the photos, a cloudy day. Now I live in the
01:32:49.440
same area. It was clear skies and sunny the whole day. Here's my car broken down from today.
01:32:55.580
So people will lie. We've had girls who say, Oh, I'm sick. Oh, something happened. I can't
01:33:01.080
make it. And then we look at their Instagram later. They're at the club. They're at the
01:33:05.040
bar. They're on a boat. They're on the yacht. A lot of people lie. Okay.
01:33:08.720
No, they do. I'm not saying you're lying. I actually believe you. Well, I don't blame
01:33:11.960
you. I actually believe you. Assuming that. But a lot of people are liars. They'll come
01:33:16.080
up with, Oh, my dog ate my homework type shit. So I am skeptical in general when people choose
01:33:24.560
to flake on plans. Now this is, can be dating related. It can be professionally related.
01:33:29.060
People tend to lie. People lie frequently. Well, especially when you're put on the spot
01:33:32.440
like this, cause you're put on the spot and on the spot right now, I'm driving my dad's
01:33:36.580
Chevy Equinox. I drive a 2016 Chevrolet. I'm not saying, I'm not saying you're lying.
01:33:40.180
No, I'm just saying, no, I know you're not talking to me. I'm giving you the reason for
01:33:42.160
why I'm skeptical when people come up with, Oh, here's why I'm late. Here's why I, you
01:33:46.980
know, can't make it. You're saying people do it all the time.
01:33:49.580
No, I imagine that. That's why I was so no show today. No, I understand. That's why I was
01:33:53.740
so like, I need to get here today because I failed to that commitment last time because
01:33:57.860
some like crazy, like it was like the stupidest shit. Like I, like I started the car and
01:34:02.160
it wouldn't go forward because the transmission blew and it's literally still in the shop.
01:34:06.100
Like, it's just like, I don't know. I might, I need to get like a rabbit's foot or something,
01:34:09.380
but like, I don't know. It's okay. It's all good. We're going to keep things moving.
01:34:14.000
I appreciate that you, you were able to make it here today. I apologize for being late.
01:34:18.380
It's okay. I thank you for your apology. Okay. So we're going to get back. We're going to get
01:34:26.940
back. You, you were saying something about what you want from a man. Oh yeah. Back to
01:34:35.900
that. Back to this controversial subject. So what, like, what do I want from a man? That's
01:34:44.940
what you're asking me? Yeah. You were saying how, um, you want a guy to pay for all your
01:34:50.360
bills and stuff. I feel like, um, that I feel like men don't really like, and just from my
01:34:58.240
own relationship experiences, um, and just being a person who was really loyal and held
01:35:06.320
things down, made most of the money, went to college, moved from Wisconsin to Phoenix to
01:35:12.120
California and kind of held the team up and try to put motivation into a man and all that.
01:35:18.720
I just feel like men only really, I won't say they, this will even make them loyal or whatever,
01:35:26.480
but I feel like they have to invest into you for them to like really be, um, I don't know,
01:35:33.740
like stable with you. I feel like if they don't invest in you, then it, you know, you end up,
01:35:39.960
that's why women just end up in these situations where it's like, oh, I have a kid and he cheated
01:35:45.320
on me and all this that happened. And then, and, and now I'm left with nothing and I have,
01:35:50.280
now I got to raise this kid by myself and all this stuff. Well, I feel like you didn't have a
01:35:53.740
standard going into the relationship. Like, like, you know, this is my standard. I'm not dating you.
01:35:58.820
I'm not having sex with you unless this is met. Because once they do that, I feel like once those
01:36:04.520
requirements are met and standards are met, it's going to be a lot harder for them to leave you,
01:36:07.960
a lot harder for them to like move on. So that's my take on it.
01:36:10.820
I have a question for you. Yeah. Um, you said if he's paying for all your stuff,
01:36:15.420
you're bringing to the table your pretty self. Um, if a man was just attractive, very attractive,
01:36:22.380
and that was it, and you're with him, would you stay with him? No, I don't date men based on
01:36:28.120
their attraction. I don't date them based on their looks. So don't you think it's a bit
01:36:32.800
hypocritical that you expect him to pour in all this effort? I feel like men definitely date based
01:36:38.340
on looks. I feel like women don't, you know? Um, so I don't feel like, you know, sure, there's a
01:36:45.920
double standard on stuff, but you know, society is the way it is. And I feel like women need to,
01:36:50.980
um, have more standard for themselves. And that's my opinion on that. Okay. So if all you're bringing
01:36:57.160
to the table is looks and good looks are pretty common. And so he can go and find another girl
01:37:02.700
with good looks. Do you expect him to stay with you? Well, if he's investing in me, he's not going to
01:37:07.760
want to lose his investment on me. So he will stay with me, I think. And if he doesn't, then
01:37:13.200
on to the next, like you, I didn't lose anything in this relationship. I only gained rather than me
01:37:19.080
losing like, okay, we got in a relationship. You didn't invest anything. Now I'm emotionally
01:37:25.020
involved with you. Maybe you cheat on me with my best friend. Maybe you, who knows what happens.
01:37:30.260
Now I'm emotionally distraught. Now my dating life is messed up because I'm still thinking about you.
01:37:36.080
I'm trying to get over you. I can't all that. No, instead, if a man invests in you, I just feel
01:37:41.520
like now it's going to be a lot harder for him to leave you. If you have that standard from the jump,
01:37:45.920
like, like to begin with, if you understand what I'm saying, like, so do you think having
01:37:50.320
that standard from the jump might keep you, keep you single longer? Um, I think it makes it,
01:37:55.840
it weeds out all the men who, you know, don't want to do that. And a lot of men have their like,
01:38:03.200
little, you know, oh, she's a gold digger. Oh, you're this or that, you know, but I don't really
01:38:07.760
care because like, what are you? You're probably not any better than me. Like, you know, so. And do
01:38:14.480
you think you'll respect a man, like truly respect him if he is accepting you for just your looks and
01:38:21.120
you're expecting all of this from him? And so he's catering to your needs and has no standards for
01:38:26.880
himself besides look. I mean, I don't think that that means he doesn't have a standard. I think it
01:38:31.040
means he has more respect for women if he feels like I don't want my woman to be struggling. I
01:38:37.040
don't want her to be in this like fight or flight mode, you know, like rather than I'm taking care
01:38:43.600
of her, you know, and I'm providing this safe space for her to be herself and, you know, maybe work on the
01:38:50.240
things that like now do I, I mean, I'm personally not ever, oh, I never stopped working. That's just
01:38:56.320
me, my type of who I am. But I don't think if a woman wants to be with a man, I don't think like
01:39:03.520
she should, that like, it shouldn't be like, oh, you got to work too. That should, a guy should not
01:39:08.320
be coming, approaching a woman like, what do you bring to the table? Like, if you like me, okay,
01:39:12.240
you like how I look because I think men, like I said, date for looks. So you like me, you like how I look,
01:39:16.800
you want, we're, maybe we go on a few dates, whatever, whatever. And you're interested in me.
01:39:20.960
Okay. Well, before I do anything with you, this is my standard. If you don't want to meet that,
01:39:26.640
then that's what it is. We can be friends or we just don't even got to be like, we, if you don't,
01:39:31.440
if you can't be my friend, then we don't got to be anything. And that's what it is. Like, and I think
01:39:36.320
like he, he, I definitely have respect for a man because also if a man is providing for me,
01:39:42.320
why would I leave somebody who's doing all this for me? That's not easy to come by either.
01:39:47.120
So, you know what I'm saying? Like, it kind of goes both ways. I feel like, I almost said,
01:39:52.480
I would say, wait, you tell them right up front that you want them to pay for everything. Um,
01:39:57.760
yeah, I mean, I make it pretty clear. Like, I feel like, oh, sorry. I feel like I make it pretty clear
01:40:04.560
from, um, the, I mean, if you know me and you're around me, you're going to know, like, that's the
01:40:10.160
type of time I'm on. And then if you don't know me or just getting to know me, you're going to learn
01:40:13.600
pretty quickly. So how do you say it to them? I mean, I just say like, honestly, they mainly
01:40:20.000
kind of understand the vibe because generally what happens is if it's not spoken, like they've
01:40:26.080
taken me on a few dates and I didn't do anything with them and I leave. And then it's like, okay,
01:40:30.720
so obviously she wants something. So then maybe they'll be like, oh, I want to spoil you or I
01:40:34.800
want this. And I'll be like, okay, like, yeah. Or I want to take you on a vacation or something.
01:40:38.160
I'm like, okay, well, I have bills to pay. I have stuff. I can't just leave. You know, I got to work.
01:40:43.600
So if you want me to be all accessible to you, I need some money. Like I need some, I need a bill
01:40:51.280
paid. Like, here's my rent. I don't know. Like, I don't know. So yeah, I mean, I kind of do like,
01:40:56.400
honestly, by like the third date, it's known. Do you tell them you're a rapper on the date?
01:41:02.240
Yeah. Tell them everything about me. Do you rap for them? Yeah. If they want to put a bean on.
01:41:09.200
Abigail, we need to do a couple chats. I'm going to have you read them heads up guys.
01:41:13.120
We're not doing $69 anymore. We boosted it back up. I should have announced it, but you know,
01:41:18.160
we only do for the first 30 minutes of the show. I'll have Abigail read them.
01:41:21.760
Uh, so we'll let them come in. So Abigail, I'm going to have you read a couple.
01:41:28.800
Into the mic. You got to do it into the mic though.
01:41:30.720
Second girl, you are a guest. This is Brian's show. It is very sus to have a funeral the day
01:41:36.160
after death. That is very strange. So Brian is right to question.
01:41:43.600
No respect. Pathetic. All right. Uh, we have another one come in and go ahead, read that.
01:41:49.840
Brian stopped milking green shirts attitude and behavior for views and kicker. She brought the
01:41:56.800
show to a grinding halt and it's annoying. All right. We have bro naissance.
01:42:07.520
Uh, but thank you, Illinois boy. Appreciate it. Go ahead. Andrew is not here.
01:42:12.080
But the, I'm, I have really bad vision. Bro-a-sance. Okay. But the bro-a-sance is,
01:42:19.440
I have really bad vision. Question to all the women. Is your father or stepfather in your life,
01:42:23.600
the blue sweater chick looks like someone too hurt to the sad basement for a diddle? What?
01:42:29.840
Diddle what? I have no idea what that means. Yeah. Uh, is your father or stepfather in your life going
01:42:36.480
around the table starting with Abigail, actually. Go ahead. My father. Oh yeah. He's in my life.
01:42:40.880
He's wonderful. Happy father's day back. Happy father's day. I love you. Yes. He's very much in
01:42:46.480
my life. Yes. My dad is very much in my life. Bolt up. Yes. I love my dad. Shout out dad. Yes.
01:42:56.560
Yes. Love you, dad. Happy father's day. Yes. My dad and re-entered my life as an adult. And yes.
01:43:02.400
Yes. Yes. Love you, Gary. Yes. My dad is. All right. And then we have one more. If you can't
01:43:10.160
read it, I'll read it. Go for it. You can read it. Hey, Brian, long time fan of the podcast and your
01:43:16.080
social projects. And I want to hop on the podcast someday if I can, but keep cooking these OF girls
01:43:20.880
and snap them back to reality. You're doing the Lord's work. All right. Thank you, man. By the way,
01:43:26.880
guys, uh, read is 99 from here on out. TTS is 199 from here on out. So a hundred and for read 200
01:43:35.520
for TTS. Um, but, uh, those just kind of slid through there. So I just wanted to at least get
01:43:40.720
them read. Sorry. They didn't come through as a TTS. Just forgot to mention that. So
01:43:44.720
yeah, we'll do Twitch guys drops. Follow on Twitch, uh, follow us on Twitch. If you've got
01:43:56.640
the prime sub drops, a prime sub 1600 people watching no ads over there on Twitch drops.
01:44:02.160
Yeah. Walsh. Thanks for the prime man. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Thank you for all the follows
01:44:05.680
and primes. Appreciate it guys. And, uh, okay. I want to, uh, what did we have to, I will come back
01:44:12.960
to some of your stuff. We need to get relationship status though. So go ahead. Single. How long you've
01:44:18.800
been single? Well, for five months now. Longest relationship was a year and a half. And if you
01:44:25.440
want to see why we ended, um, go to the other podcast that I was in. Oh, can you just give us
01:44:32.880
a recap for the new viewers? Mommy issues with him and it was, we were just both immature. Both
01:44:39.920
immature. Okay. Uh, and you were on like two months ago, a month ago or something. Yeah.
01:44:45.520
Like a month ago. Any dating, any dating prospects? No. From that. Okay. What about you? Um, I am
01:44:53.600
single. I've been single for four years and my longest relationship was six years. Okay. And, uh,
01:45:02.000
you're religious, correct? Yeah. I have a relationship with Jesus. Yeah. I know you're
01:45:07.600
going to say that. So are you, you're like non-denominational Christian? Yeah. Non-denominational.
01:45:14.800
Protestant or just non-denominational? You could say Protestant. Okay. And so
01:45:21.520
are you, uh, do you consider yourself a born, born again? Um, yes, I do. Now, do you consider
01:45:28.240
yourself a born again virgin? I mean, I don't really think about the term, but, uh, no, I don't
01:45:33.440
think of it like that. I just went celibate now cause I repented from premarital sex and got to pick
01:45:40.080
it up and keep it moving. Sure. What about you? Uh, relationships. Is that, we're still on that?
01:45:48.000
Yeah. That's yeah. Okay. I'm married. I've been married for a little over a year and my longest
01:45:53.040
relationship is my marriage. Still married? Yep. Okay. Love that ring. Thank you. That's amazing.
01:45:59.840
How long, uh, how long were you guys dating? We didn't actually didn't date. Um, I've known him
01:46:04.960
for a little over three years now. We were best friends and we just started falling for each other
01:46:12.400
and we wanted to buy a house together and I'm big on not living together before marriage. So we got
01:46:17.680
married. And you were on about a year ago, if I recall, is that correct? Yeah, I think it was like
01:46:21.760
nine months ago or something like that. Okay. And, uh, marriage going, going well. Yeah, very well.
01:46:28.080
Good. Good. Uh, what do you say to people who kind of, uh, raise an eyebrow, you know, getting married
01:46:34.720
at 22 is, uh, I would say a bit uncommon nowadays. Yeah. Uh, I don't know if you ever get, uh, criticisms
01:46:42.560
or what do you say to those people? People definitely do criticize. Um, I guess my biggest defense is my
01:46:50.640
parents have been happily married for a very long time and they raised me, uh, to get married and
01:46:57.520
they approve of this man and they approve of the marriage. Um, and I'm way happier married than I was
01:47:06.400
single. I don't intend to get married to end up divorced. So it's till death do us part. And
01:47:13.520
I think, I mean, I don't have to answer to the people who raise an eyebrow to me. Um, of course,
01:47:19.840
people are going to have their opinions, but it doesn't affect the longevity of our marriage.
01:47:26.400
Okay. I see. All right, cool. We've got everybody's relationship status. Uh, we're working on getting
01:47:34.000
Andrew. Uh, he, he should be joining us here in just a few minutes. Uh, so we have pelagic. It's
01:47:41.600
on purpose. She's purposely trying to throw you off with her mental manipulation. She's good.
01:47:46.480
No doubt about that. Uh, for me. Yeah, no, you're right. Pelagic. Thank you, man. Appreciate it.
01:47:53.760
Appreciate it, dude. And, uh, like the video boys like the video, uh, it helps out with the algorithm. So,
01:48:01.280
uh, thank you guys. What was the, uh, Nick, is there anything we had to react to? Um,
01:48:06.560
yeah, there's that. And then, yeah, um, hold on.
01:48:25.200
Uh, okay. I'm trying to think when I want to do this.
01:48:28.320
One sec guys. I'm just checking on Andrew here. I think, uh, Nick, do you want to boot
01:48:34.880
up discord and just see if he's, uh, just give him a call, see if he's good to go.
01:48:39.040
All right. So I do want to come back to what you were saying here for just a moment. I was
01:48:43.280
hoping to get a little more detail. Yeah. On, uh, you, what you're looking for in a guy,
01:48:49.360
you said you don't really care about looks. Yeah. Um, not that I don't, but it's not like my top thing.
01:48:56.320
Like, you know, like he's gotta be clean, but he doesn't gotta be like the most handsomest.
01:49:02.800
I do have a question. So you said for a guy looks are important and for you clearly being able to
01:49:09.680
support you financially is important. So I'll re ask my question before instead of just looks,
01:49:15.280
if he only had money and that was it, that's all he had going for him. Would you stay with him?
01:49:21.200
I mean, is he helping me? It's all he brings to the table is money. He's giving you his money,
01:49:28.400
but he could be super ugly, bad personality, dirty, ruins your house. Definitely not. Okay.
01:49:35.520
But that, that, yeah, definitely not. I mean, if you're, um, I feel like cool, you pay all my bills,
01:49:42.560
but I mean, if you're just stressing me out. So you expect more than just financial stability?
01:49:48.000
Well, yes. I mean, I'm kind of confused with like exactly what else I, what else I'm only asking
01:49:56.160
this because you said you bring to the table, your looks, you didn't, you didn't list any other
01:49:59.840
things. Yeah. I mean what I'm going on. I don't think a guy who likes me as like as much to help
01:50:06.320
me out like that. I don't think he's probably only interested in my looks, but he might be.
01:50:11.440
I am, um, you know what I'm saying? So if he's interested in more than your looks,
01:50:14.160
but if he's not a good person, if he's not a good person, then he's not for me. Like,
01:50:18.640
I don't want to deal with anybody who's a bad person. Like, you know, at least to what I would
01:50:22.880
define a good person or what I would define a bad person is, which my definition is going to be
01:50:27.200
different from everybody else's. So, you know, um, so would you say you're a good person?
01:50:31.520
I'm a pretty good person. I think so too. And Nick, how's it getting worked with Andrew? Have
01:50:39.200
you tried calling him? You can still try to do the voice call. Uh, I think he should,
01:50:48.720
maybe he's just getting a couple of things all set up. Well, to kind of echo the question that
01:50:54.560
Abigail was asking before, perhaps you can restate it because there's a bit of hecticness going on.
01:50:59.600
Uh, she asked, what do you bring to the table? Yeah. Um, you know, my pretty self.
01:51:06.400
Do you cook or clean? Uh, I clean, I cook sometimes, but I'm not gonna cook or clean,
01:51:13.680
um, unless you're providing for me. So do you expect a guy to do all those things that you want
01:51:20.240
him to do immediately? Not necessarily. Okay. No, I mean, I think if the relationship builds out
01:51:27.680
over time, sure. But then we're not having sex, if that makes sense. You're not like we could be
01:51:32.560
dating, but we're not having sex. You know what I'm saying? Like, as in if, if I like you and you
01:51:38.000
like me and you know, it's not, you're not there yet. Like you're not trying to do something for me
01:51:44.720
or help me out in my life, like whatever, then yeah. I mean, we could date for a while and stuff,
01:51:50.240
but you wouldn't have sex until they start paying you for things. Yeah. I want to say paying me for
01:51:55.680
things. I mean, you're going to make it sound like I'm an escort. Well, but I mean, I'm trying to be,
01:52:00.720
I'm trying to be charitable here, but you said that you're waiting until to have sex until they fall
01:52:06.160
into the provider role, correct? Yes. I think so. Yeah. So you'll date a guy and then, but you will
01:52:12.400
withhold sex until he does what? Until, um, you know, my life is taken care of. Okay. So like,
01:52:19.920
why would I be intimate with you? Why would I be intimate with you? If you're not, if you don't
01:52:25.080
care about like, just cause we're intimate doesn't mean you care about me. Like show me that you
01:52:29.160
actually care about me, like do stuff, like even just bringing flowers and stuff. Anybody could do
01:52:34.280
that and then stop doing that. So I feel like that doesn't for a man. Couldn't the guy provide for
01:52:38.940
you and then stop providing. Yeah. And then we're not going to continue our relationship.
01:52:43.240
My question here is how is this not definitionally prostitution? It's definitely not prostitution
01:52:50.500
because I'm not for one. I mean, I'm definitely not slandering anybody. Um, but I'm not on the street
01:52:59.260
corner. Um, I'm not, it's not, it's not, it's not, Oh, this, you want to, uh, this is what it is.
01:53:05.000
Like, even if you give me money, that doesn't mean I'm going to be intimate with you.
01:53:08.560
Well, it might not be, but if I like you, then yeah. Right. But that's okay. I, I acknowledge
01:53:14.560
that it's not a super overt transaction insofar as I will have sex with you, pay me $300 right
01:53:23.900
now and then I'll fuck you. But if your standard is, I will not sleep with you until you pay
01:53:31.440
X, Y, Z bill. I think that's just the standard. I don't think, I think that's the standard women
01:53:36.400
should, most women should. Cause I feel like women are selling themselves short, selling
01:53:41.520
themselves short of what they could actually be receiving in a relationship. And most men,
01:53:47.200
especially wealthy men have stay at home wives and they provide for them. So are they prostitutes?
01:53:53.200
Are they escorts? Are they all that? I mean, I think you're selling yourself short because
01:53:57.940
I don't think so. Guys that have money and spending it on girls, it doesn't really even
01:54:02.760
mean that he likes you or cares about you. If he, especially if he has money, he'll do
01:54:05.740
that for multiple women. When a guy really likes you, he'll probably marry you. Um, guys
01:54:11.240
are into marriage and stuff, but just spending money on you doesn't mean that he truly likes
01:54:14.860
who cares about you. And just, and just because, you know, just like a lot of women date for
01:54:19.680
a very long time and you know, they might be bringing a lot to the table. They might've
01:54:24.100
held this man down when he was down and out. They might've took care of his kids. They
01:54:28.600
might've raised his kids. They might've bailed him out of situations, what, what not. That
01:54:33.980
doesn't mean he's going to marry you either. So what, you know, what's the standard? Like
01:54:38.160
marriage is really a choice between both people. Like, so that's not like money being involved
01:54:43.300
or not has nothing to do with marriage. I think like personally, but you know, I think,
01:54:48.620
I think a man has more interest in you and will be more interested in a deeper relationship
01:54:56.020
if he's already investing in you, it's going to make it very much harder for him to leave
01:54:59.120
you. I don't think guys can. I have a question. I think they do. I have a question. I think
01:55:04.180
that sometimes in, in just my personal experience with life and everything, what I've brought to
01:55:10.600
the table has made men not want to date me and intimidated them to the point where like,
01:55:16.080
it makes me like, try to like hide who I am. Men don't like very independent women.
01:55:20.580
And, and, and it hurts me. It does. They have the desire to provide. I know. It's an independent
01:55:24.760
woman therefore. And that, that's why I'm like, I'm here to love you and I'm here to be there. And I,
01:55:30.240
I would, I'm a very submissive person, but I just find myself in that situation a lot with dating.
01:55:36.340
And it's just, it seems like they get jealous of me, like very angry. I've noticed this in my
01:55:40.380
personal life to the point where like, it's like, I've given and I've given and I've given,
01:55:44.640
and I just don't know why you just can't accept, like want to see me smile kind of thing. Like you
01:55:50.000
won't, you don't want to see me live. So, so, so that's, that's what I wonder about things. So
01:55:54.400
that's where, that's where the whole, you know, bringing to the table, I try to hide what I bring
01:55:57.980
to the table because I feel like if I bring too much. Can I ask you a question? So, okay. So your new standard
01:56:02.960
is, has this always been your standard with every single guy you have had sex with? Okay. So your
01:56:10.040
standard is you'll date a guy for months, but until he starts providing for you, so paying for your rent,
01:56:16.700
paying for your car, paying for your makeup, your, uh, I forgot the other stuff, your insurance,
01:56:23.540
your utility bills, you won't sleep with him until he starts doing that. Uh, yeah. Can I ask you a
01:56:31.820
question? So you, you do, you're a single mom, the father of your child, did he have to do all that
01:56:37.580
stuff for you to sleep with him? No, but that was, he's the reason why I'm like this. So what do you
01:56:42.880
mean? He's the reason you helped me out, but don't you think, I mean, um, I mean, what about, I'm sure
01:56:49.540
I'm sure, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. So you dated other guys too before him, right? Yeah. I was in
01:56:55.160
one relationship. And so have you ever had this stand? Like, yeah, I mean, my last relationship,
01:57:00.140
no, no, no, no, no. But I mean, like prior to that, like, have you dated multiple guys? Not at
01:57:05.940
the same time, but have you dated multiple guys and this was never the standard? You just
01:57:09.480
no, you liked them. So you slept with them? Not really. I mean, cause so are you saying that
01:57:14.460
every single guy you've slept with, they had to what provide provide? No, I just said that my baby
01:57:21.240
daddy, I mean, my baby father didn't really, but we were both really young. So, I mean, I can't really
01:57:26.040
expect, when I look back at that relationship, I can't really expect that because I didn't have
01:57:30.940
that standard going into the relationship as well. Also, I was young, I was 17. So what 17 year old
01:57:35.980
is thinking like, oh, I got bills and stuff. Like, you're not thinking that. So like that relationship
01:57:41.320
and the, and me having a kid and all that, those were consequences of my actions, you know?
01:57:46.920
Wait, but so. Honestly. And I love my son. No, I love my son. And, um, he's a blessing and
01:57:51.920
everything, but I have my son at like 19, like that's young, like, you know? So I just feel
01:57:57.860
like for women, I just wish women would have more of a standard and they wouldn't end up
01:58:02.200
in such crazy predicaments. But I mean, in terms of kind of looking at, uh, you know,
01:58:10.940
what the guys who would potentially be wanting to date you, uh, in terms of like the value proposition,
01:58:19.780
don't you think you would have, Oh yeah. Sorry. What?
01:58:24.180
She's just got shit. So I just don't know if you can.
01:58:31.060
Don't you think the value proposition to the men, like, don't you think you would have had
01:58:39.940
more leverage prior to dating all these dudes, having, being a single mom, you would have
01:58:46.940
had more leverage to secure a guy who would actually be okay with the sort of arrangement
01:59:05.600
you got it, you got a kid, a lot of single men, like if they don't have a kid, they probably
01:59:13.780
don't want to deal with that. Not all men. Some men are okay with it.
01:59:19.740
how are the guys going to feel like, okay, you let the past 10 dudes hit it on the first
01:59:25.780
date, but I got it. You got a three month. I don't know what your actual minimum. You
01:59:29.660
got a three month waiting rule and the guy's got to pay for you and all this stuff.
01:59:32.740
I'm no, I mean, it's not, it's definitely not that it's, um, first off, I didn't let the
01:59:38.920
last 10 dudes hit, um, for free and nobody's hitting like that because I have a standard
01:59:44.900
for myself. So, and I've always had a type standard. I was in a very long relationship.
01:59:49.080
I was very loyal, you know, coming out of that relationship, getting another relationship.
01:59:52.880
It was the same thing. I was very loyal, but I just had more standards in this relationship.
01:59:56.400
Let me rephrase the question. So is the standard that you just disclosed that you have now the
02:00:02.480
standard of? Yeah. Hold on. The guy has to provide. Is that a standard that you held
02:00:09.920
like all the previous men to? I don't know how many that is. My, my, my last, my, my baby
02:00:16.660
father. No, because we were young. Like we were both in like high school, like what high
02:00:21.560
schooler is going to pay for a high schooler's bills? Like that's not even a thing, but I didn't
02:00:26.580
know at that time. So every guy after high school. Yeah. I mean, kind of not after high
02:00:34.640
school. I was in my baby daddy till I was 22. So anyways, I do want to introduce Andrew
02:00:40.160
Wilson. Uh, welcome. This is a welcome. This has been an absolutely hectic show. Andrew,
02:00:47.340
you've missed quite a bit, but welcome in. Hello everybody. How are you doing? My name's
02:00:54.540
Andrew. Um, you know, I guess, uh, to the, whatever podcast chat, happy father's days,
02:00:59.900
all the fathers out there, um, mass respect for you. And, um, yeah, thanks. Uh, thanks
02:01:05.800
for having me. I did have, uh, another engagement, um, this, uh, this father's day, but that's taken
02:01:11.640
care of. So here I am on the show and looking forward to interlocking with you guys.
02:01:16.560
All right. Welcome, Andrew. Good to have you, man. Good to have you. So even, even the,
02:01:20.720
the one who's been totally disrespectful the entire, even you, right, even you, I'm happy
02:01:25.920
to have a convo with you. You see, you see how charitable I am this father's day.
02:01:33.260
Did you get some Intel, Andrew? Did the crucible crew, did they give you a little Intel?
02:01:38.940
Well, I listened a little bit as I was driving over to get some beer because I could tell I was
02:01:44.320
going to need to fortify myself for this show. Um, I did, uh, I did give a bit of a listen.
02:01:50.760
Um, but I mean, there's been way, way worse women on the show. Let's be honest. Uh, thus far,
02:01:57.580
I think it's all, I think it's all good, right? We're all having a good time. Let's get back to
02:02:01.420
that. Let's get the energy back up. We'll get back to having a good time here. Sounds good. That
02:02:05.720
sounds good. So I'm going to get into some of my pre-show notes here. Uh, I'm trying to see where we
02:02:12.380
are. I don't know if you need any intros from any of the girls, but, uh, I'm trying to think
02:02:18.400
where we left. Anson Knowles donated $200. Yo, thank you. Happy Father's Day. Anson. Question
02:02:26.840
for each lady. Is satisfaction or joy what your father feels about their little girl's relationship
02:02:33.200
and all strumpet behavior? Pride in immutable characteristics is evil. Strumpet is a crazy choice
02:02:40.180
person. Is satisfaction or joy what your father feels about their little girl's relationship
02:02:44.620
and their strumpet? Wait, I'm a little confused. Oh, what, what Anson is asking here, uh, he's
02:02:51.220
saying, do you think that your father feels pride and joy, uh, at any of the person? Now,
02:02:57.760
I don't know, uh, as I don't have the background on any of you just yet. Uh, but he's saying if,
02:03:02.840
if any of you, uh, kind of are involved in promiscuous behavior, do you think that your parents
02:03:08.500
feel joy about that? Specifically your father's? I got something to say about that. When, when
02:03:17.060
my dad. You look like you, you look like you had something to say about it. So. Anyway, go ahead.
02:03:22.320
I try, when I first started dancing, I don't dance anymore, obviously, but I work as a, you
02:03:26.940
know, courtesan. Uh, but when my mother. Hey, wait, wait, hang on. I'm sorry. Um, I just want
02:03:31.700
to clarify very quickly. When you say courtesan, do you mean an escort? A legal, uh, prostitute at the
02:03:37.220
Moonlight Bunny Ranch. Uh, it's legal and it's in Nevada. Uh, yeah, they have got one in Vegas
02:03:41.620
actually. Yeah, they, they do. Well, well, isn't, I mean, yours would have to be in Nevada,
02:03:45.780
right? It is in Nevada. Yeah. Uh, mine's in Carson city, but they used to have one in Vegas.
02:03:51.580
Okay. So yeah. So Carson city, about 25 minutes away from Reno roughly. Yeah. So, um, pretty much,
02:03:57.640
um, when my dad, my mom was mad that she found my W2 when I was a dancer back in the day when I
02:04:05.760
danced, she said, you weren't working at the new dance bar. And I was like, well, yeah, I am.
02:04:12.880
And, and, and my mom was kind of upset about it. But when my dad, he was like, he gave me the fist
02:04:17.140
pump and he's like, you go girl. And I'm like, from like, you know, a dude that was in the military
02:04:21.220
and stuff. Like, I was like, but, but I'm going to tell you this. So my, my middle name didn't yell.
02:04:26.920
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on. Hang on, hang on. Hang on. Let's back up. And just so you guys know,
02:04:32.540
um, if, if we're having a discussion back and forth, because I'm remoted in, uh, when you're
02:04:38.640
talking, if we're, if we're talking at the same time, I actually can't hear you. Right. So I can
02:04:43.300
only hear it one way. Um, so, so if we can just talk one at a time, that'd be, that'd be great.
02:04:47.940
So, but backing up, I just want to make sure your dad fist found your W2 that you're working as a,
02:04:54.620
as I'm sorry, a prostitute and he fist bumped you. It wasn't the prostitute. I was a dancer at the
02:04:59.100
time, but he said, you go girl. What kind of, well, what kind of dancer? I was a nude dancer
02:05:03.260
at a Deja Vu. Okay. But I mean, the, the delineation, I think, I think that it's kind
02:05:08.360
of semantics, right? So yeah. Well, like, you know, I mean, a lot of people, including myself
02:05:13.420
would consider, um, stripping to be prostitution. It was, yeah, yeah, it was, it was, but he's like,
02:05:20.060
yeah, he's like, go girl. And I was like, Oh my God. I was, it felt kind of just, it felt good to me.
02:05:24.960
Cause I felt like at the time when I was a dancer, I tried to hide it. You know, I got a bunch of fake
02:05:29.220
Red Bull shirts. So I would make fake Red Bull shirts and fake, cause to be like, I was a promoter
02:05:33.540
or something. And I'd put on these shirts and say, I was going downtown. This is when I was like 22
02:05:37.720
years old. And, and I would come back with the shirt on. Obviously I wasn't using it the whole night,
02:05:42.620
but, um, finally that's when my mom found out. But when my dad said that, I just, I thought it was so
02:05:47.100
funny. And what'd your mom say? My mom was mad. Cause she was an ex cop and she didn't like,
02:05:52.860
she didn't, she didn't like, she's fine with the Tantra. I don't know if she's fine with anything
02:05:57.680
else, particularly as far as like the, uh, courtesan work goes with a Tantra. What's the
02:06:02.740
Tantra. So I'm a Tantra practitioner and I've been to many retreats. Um, these are like holistic
02:06:08.340
retreats where we learn mind, body, soul, and sexual, uh, and you know, connection. And it's like,
02:06:15.780
um, it's like S esoteric sexuality. Essentially. She's fine with that. She's not really fine with like,
02:06:21.200
like stuff that's like even girlfriend experience, porn starts. She's kind of like borderline on that.
02:06:26.360
Um, but she's fine with the Tantra, but she's not fine with the others. So it's really interesting.
02:06:30.840
I think it's because like I had to get trained in it and she's, she wants me to get trained in
02:06:35.480
something. So she does, my mother does say to me, like, you know, I hope you that, you know,
02:06:39.220
you're smart girl. I hope you get trained in something. And I told her, I was like, you know,
02:06:43.000
I enjoy a holistic sexuality. I enjoy exploring with people. I feel like I'm a safe person. And I
02:06:48.860
have been to many, you know, retreats and I've just been through a lot. So I, I know how people
02:06:54.640
feel. What happens at these retreats? Um, at the retreats. So we really kind of got to dive into
02:07:00.780
ourself. There's a lot of, if you Google, I'm trying to say like not a lot of them are, they're
02:07:06.520
not filmed, but, um, I went to the international school of temple arts and, um, a lot, a lot of,
02:07:12.760
is this like, is this like teal swan stuff? This is teal swan. I like teal swan, but, but you know,
02:07:17.600
teal, I, you know, I gotta, but I mean, is that, it is teal swan ballpark is like teal swan.
02:07:22.520
Yes. Esoteric sexuality. It is. Um, kind of diving into yourself and channeling spirits in
02:07:28.820
order to do sex magic, that kind of thing. Kind of, but, but, but they'll rip you apart at these
02:07:33.440
things. Like you'll be in tears by like day three. They will just shred you to pieces and, and, and,
02:07:38.100
and it has to, because you have to break and like crack open in order to be able to understand the
02:07:44.340
depths of someone's emotions. So you have to be like put through the paper shredder. And,
02:07:48.660
and if you are ready, a lot of these people were kind of grinded by life and then you get grinded
02:07:52.980
by life even more when you go there because they, they, they open, I'm so sorry. They open up the
02:07:57.780
wounds again. And yeah, I mean, but it's basically cult brainwashing, right? You know, there is that,
02:08:04.880
um, okay. So I actually have some, some, okay. So that is why I don't believe in communes and living
02:08:12.540
on communes is because, uh, my mentor, she's passed away now, but her name was Psalm Isadora
02:08:17.780
and she's a tantric sex guru. And, um, she grew up, yeah, she grew up on, on one of those like kind
02:08:24.920
of, you know, the Jim Jones, that whole thing. And, and I don't believe in the problem with some
02:08:33.660
spiritual communities that I have is, is the, like you said, with the brainwashing it's so in
02:08:39.760
spiritual communities, you can't fight. You can't like to say, oh, you're a jerk. You're a bitch. You
02:08:43.600
can't say that. So what they do is they start to, oh, your vision might not be good today. Oh, oh my
02:08:48.240
gosh, you might not be hearing me correctly. The gaslighting is big. So you've got to be really in
02:08:53.380
tune. And when you call somebody out on that, they will block you. Like I was actually blocked by a
02:08:58.320
spiritual like person who I followed with over a million followers and I was blocked by her because
02:09:03.580
I called her out on it because they were questioned. They said, oh, I think you just need to listen to me
02:09:07.700
again. I mean, so, so why do you participate in these things? So there's, there's some things I
02:09:12.140
believe in and then there's some things I don't. And that's why I don't, I don't completely live
02:09:17.160
like on a commune. I don't live that life because even my spiritual teacher, um, Aaron Kleinerman,
02:09:22.960
who, who was the, you know, he was a war vet and he went into the Tantra and became a Tantra
02:09:27.740
practitioner. He didn't agree with some of that stuff too. There's certain great things about Tantra,
02:09:32.420
but the community and how they interpret it, there are those, there could be that weirdness that goes on.
02:09:37.420
Is there, is there a lot of sex that's going on at these things?
02:09:40.820
There, there is, um, as far as not, not like sex, but it's like, there is talk about sex. There's
02:09:47.000
talk about like, you know, I guess how you open yourself up to, you know, the world, how you open
02:09:54.100
yourself up to others. Um, it's, everything has to be consensual. Um, for me, I didn't have sex at any
02:09:59.620
of these. Um, but I'm, I've heard at other retreats, not at the ones that I went to, that there were
02:10:04.700
sex that goes down and I didn't go to those, but I have heard that. Okay. So I'm very selective
02:10:10.340
with teachers. Yeah. Yeah. I get, I get it. I just want to make sure that I'm, I'm clear because
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I'm kind of coming into the conversation late. So, but you are right. There are, that doesn't,
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so you're hiding. Yeah. I mean, it's very, it's very culty, right? It's very, it's very culty.
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There's, um, there's no if, hands or buts about it. Tons of data. Some, tons of people get damaged
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from these sorts of, uh, of retreats and speak out about it for years afterwards. Some can, yes.
02:10:34.140
There's, there's entire swaths of Teal Swan's following who've broken off and talked about the
02:10:38.340
horrors that go on inside of these kinds of, uh, sexual based retreats. So my, I guess my,
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my overarching question is, and I, you know, think about it for a second before you answer.
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Do you think that maybe the reason you're interested in those, in those cult-like retreats,
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the sex retreats is because they're actually less judgmental than the population at large
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about your profession? I think that, um, I've been devious, like with, I think sex is something
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that isn't new to me. I've known this like my entirety of my life. And, um, I think that
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the retreats, it's almost like a moth to a light, you know, like I go and I, I just feel
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like in my soul that it is right for me. Um, but I, I know when something is wrong. I know
02:11:25.900
when boundaries get pushed and that's when I'm not cool with, I respect everyone's boundaries
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that I've been with. I would never run one of those retreats because I feel like that
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would be one of the most difficult jobs in the world. I don't know how my teachers do
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it. The ones that I have are the ones that I recommend.
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Well, they get paid a lot of money. That's how they do it.
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They do. They do. And, and they, the ones that I have are very good. And I would honestly,
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like on God would not recommend anybody else than the ones that I saw because I don't trust
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Okay. So I think, uh, I think you got a bit about your background now and kind of understand,
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um, where it is that you're at and where it is that you're coming from. So, uh, Brian,
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if you want to continue with your questions, uh, on the backgrounds.
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Uh, yeah. So we are going to get into some of the, uh, pre-show topics here. Uh, we have
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a decent amount to get through just trying to no shows. I'm going to skip that, but I do
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want to, uh, I kind of actually want now that you're here, Andrew, I'm kind of want to get
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into some of our more, uh, more heated questions, heated conversation topics. So I don't think
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we'll debate it, but I do actually want to get answers. So we'll do the bear thing. We're
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not going to really debate it much, but I always like to at least get the answers. So starting
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with you, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
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I'm a man. Um, I don't even know. You haven't heard this? No, I have. I've thought about it.
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I think both can bring danger. If you had to pick one. Well, like, um, yeah, if you just, if,
02:13:12.220
if, if you had to pick one, if, um, you know, there was, there was a, there was a button,
02:13:16.640
there was a magic button and you had to select one, one was bear, one was man, which one do
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you think you would press? I'd probably say bear. Bear. Why is that? Um, I just feel like,
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you know, it's just like easier to kind of get them to go away. It's easier to get a bear to go away.
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Okay. I mean, yeah. I mean, I just feel like men are very unpredictable. Aren't wild animals
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unpredictable? I can predict that the bear is going to kill me. Yeah. I mean, that's why I'm
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saying y'all like, I don't know, but if you're going to ask me to choose one, I'm probably going
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to say bear. We'll get everybody's answers. Go ahead. So I picked the bear last time and I picked
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the bear this time. I could either move. That's it. No, that's it. Okay. What about you?
02:14:03.500
Bear. Man. Wait, what did you pick last time? I picked the bear. Yeah. Okay. What do you
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pick? Uh, I picked the man. Yeah. Random man. We do need to wait until she's back for the
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one who's gone from the table to get her answer. Um, those of you who said bear, so you said
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bear, you said bear, bear, uh, why bear? So I picked bear. So I've noticed I've done some
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self-reflection since then. And just recently I've had a lot of negative experiences with men,
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but it seems like the more positive experiences that I have with men and the more like safety
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that I feel, I might be inclined to pick the man. And I'm starting to wonder is just, did I just get
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bad luck of the draw? Like in a sense, like in the past, and that's why my judgment is skewed
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because that's the way I choose bear because of that. Is that a safe thing for me to do? Or
02:15:00.060
it, if some people have really bad things happen to them, should they just kind of look at things
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as a whole and be like, look, you might've had like 10 bad things happen to you, but things could
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change. So I don't know. Yeah. Why do you pick bear? Sorry. Um, I think I would pick, well, I know I
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would pick the bear just because I'd say both have primal instincts, but overall a bear would be more
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predictable considering the fact that it is a primal animal and less intelligent than a man. Um,
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I just feel like when you say the bear would be more predictable, you mean you could like the
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more predictably imagine it attacking you compared to a man? Well, the bear say both are like per se
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hostile. Then if the bear is hostile, that's not, but okay, that's not the question. You don't know
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if the random man's hostile. You don't know if the bear's hostile. They could be, they might not be.
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Well, if the man's hostile, then you're taking the chance. That's less predictable. I'm saying
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if you know that like, say like if you're stuck in the forest with a man and a bear,
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if the bear gets provoked, what's it going to do? Attack you. If the man gets provoked,
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you don't know what the fuck the man's going to do. So I'm saying the bear, like, you know what
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it's going to do if it gets provoked. Well, let's, let me ask you a question though. Um,
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you mentioned provoked. If I put both of the men, like just a random man and a random bear in this
02:16:23.060
situation, I think actually if you provoke a bear versus you provoke like some nerdy gamer guy
02:16:31.120
who's net, who would never hurt a fly, like you could even go, like you could probably walk up to
02:16:35.900
a lot of dudes and literally poke them and they would not do anything to you. Do you think you
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would have that same experience with men or sorry, excuse me, with bears? Um, well,
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the bear would definitely try to eat you and you don't know if the random man in the forest is
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going to be a nerdy gamer. I would argue you could actually do, hold on. I would argue you could
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actually do this social experiment and you could actually go out into the street and just approach
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a random man and you could even, you could even like, like poke him kind of annoyingly poke him in
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the shoulder. You don't know what they're going to do. He can't eat you alive. Yeah. Well, here's the thing
02:17:11.020
though is, I mean, the, but I mean, he's agreeing, right? He's saying you're right. You don't,
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you don't know what they're going to do, but, but let us assume for a second that you had 20 men
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and 20 random bears. If you went and poked the 20 men in the chest like this versus poking 20 bears
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in the chest like this, which one do you think would be more likely to, I don't know, eat your
02:17:32.940
face? Well, I don't know. I mean, you don't know. No, no, listen, like the bear would be more likely to
02:17:38.860
eat your face, but you don't know if the man, like that's the thing you don't know, like what
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he has on him. He could have, no, I agree. You don't know. The man could freak out, right? He
02:17:45.640
could freak out. He could do horrible things, but which one do you think is more, which one do you
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think is more likely to freak out if you walk over and start poking them in the chest, a random man or
02:17:56.280
a random bear? Well, the bear would definitely eat your face, but you know, for a fact that the bear
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would eat your face. That's predictable. That's what I'm saying. The whole point of my entire,
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I guess, opinion on this factor is that the bear would in fact eat your face. So
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you'd rather die because it's guaranteed you're going to die? So you'd rather predictably die
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than just have a man look at you like the fuck you're doing? You guys like aren't understanding
02:18:17.040
what she's saying. No, we're just trying to word it where like she wants to hate men so
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bad, but it just doesn't make sense. Wait, wait, wait. We do need to get her response from
02:18:26.600
this. So the question is, would you rather, would you rather come across a random man or a random
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bear in the woods? Oh, I mean, why are you in the woods as a man? Okay. Hold on, hold on,
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hold on because you guys are incapable of engaging with a hypothetical. No, no, no. I'm going to
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answer the question. Here's the scenario. Okay. There, there is no motivation there. You're
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literally, you press, there's a magic wand and a random man in the United States, a totally
02:18:56.140
random man gets dropped into the woods. So do you. And you guys are going to cross paths.
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But I'd rather, I'd rather cross paths with a man than a bear to be honest. Cause maybe you can
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help me get the hell out of these woods. Like a bear is not going to be able to help me, but.
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Okay. So in this scenario you pick. I'm picking a man, I think. I have a series. But I just feel
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like, you know, if I'm walking through the woods and then I just randomly see a man, I mean, let's
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run like a walking trail, but if I'm like lost in the woods and there's just a random man in the woods,
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I'd be kind of creeped out. It's not really the question. Wait, well, if you were lost in the woods and you
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found, I came across a random man in the woods. Well, I mean, I'd be like, I'm lost, but I'd be
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like, what are you doing? I guess you're right. You're right. I mean, wouldn't you be like, I'm lost.
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Can you help me? You're right. You're right. I'd be freaked. I'd be like, not like, what are you
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doing here? I'd be like, help me. Yeah. Help. I'm lost in these fucking woods. This sucks.
02:19:47.100
I have a question. You switched to man, right? Yeah. I switched to man. Okay.
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Andrew, you're going to have a back and forth, I think with her. Yeah. Well, I wanted to ask,
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so, so I just want to make sure, cause I think I understand why a lot of women pick the bear.
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And I think, I think that what you're trying to say is it's due to the predictable nature of bears.
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They're easier to predict. Men can do much more unpredictable things and they have kind of the
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strength and will in order to have more perverse actions than the bear. Yes. Okay. So you kind of
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want us to see it from your angle. So let me ask a counter question so you can see it from our angle.
02:20:27.340
And I'd like an honest answer from everybody. Do you think a man would rather tell his feelings to
02:20:32.360
a woman or a tree? A tree probably. Hang on, hang on. Going around the table. Would a man rather tell
02:20:40.520
his feelings to a woman or a tree? Definitely a woman. A tree. A tree. I feel like it depends on
02:20:47.000
the situation, but I guess a tree. I feel like he wants to tell it to a woman, but he feel like he
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can't. So he'd rather just go talk to a tree. I agree. A tree. Probably a tree. Well then if the
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social commentary is that we need to be looking at it from your end, that you perceive men as being
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kind of unpredictable and dangerous in comparison to this massive wild animal, which is known for,
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you know, mauling random people, then shouldn't you also take into account and take responsibility
02:21:17.420
on the woman's end for the fact that men can't even talk to you or discuss with you how we feel
02:21:23.480
about anything and would rather tell it to an inanimate object than you?
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Yes. And I have a quick question about that, that this for the table or whatever.
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Um, my question is this, how come the idea of 20 men finding them in the forest compared to a bear
02:21:36.620
sounds safer than me, than me with one man? How come that is? I don't know. But, but I mean,
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I could engage with you on it, but why would I tell you how I felt about it? I'd rather talk to a
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fucking tree, right? And this is, this is the whole point. The whole point is, is that, you know,
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I would rather open up about my feelings to a tree than open up about my feelings to you by your own
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admission. And yet the social commentary is only one dimensional where you say, but well,
02:22:02.740
how come men won't take responsibility for how we feel about them? Well, how come you won't see
02:22:08.000
it from our angle that as we're having this discussion, I would probably prefer to take
02:22:13.100
a random inanimate object, in this case, a tree and open up about my feelings to the tree than you,
02:22:18.700
and you know, it's true. Well, I mean, like, I mean, isn't that crazy though? Like where's the
02:22:23.380
responsibility from the other direction? I admit it, it is a bit, it is a bit outlandish in a sense,
02:22:32.560
because it's like, I mean, I'm thinking if I were to encounter 20 men or a bear, I would feel safer
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with the 20 men than the one man. I don't know. Maybe it's, is it because you have bad experience
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with one man? I never had a bad experience with 20 men. Is that, is that it? Is that just the bias?
02:22:44.600
Like the confirmation? Well, no, no, no, no, no. Listen. So what we're looking at is we're looking
02:22:49.300
at, um, the kind of a, a plural, a plural meaning here from the woman's perspective. So I'm taking
02:22:56.200
myself out of my shoes, trying to put myself into the shoes of you. You say, listen, I'd much rather
02:23:02.340
come across a random bear than a man, because I can ascribe all of these motivations onto a random
02:23:08.140
man of things that they could do to me, which are sick and twisted, dark and horrible. And you know,
02:23:14.460
I can maybe at least predict a bear. And it's like, man, from a woman's perspective, like I
02:23:19.800
don't understand why men don't get donated $200. Only a female could be stupid enough to pick a
02:23:26.020
wild animal that will kill them over a grown man who can save her life. There is a reason. No good
02:23:31.520
man wants these women. All right. Grin won motorsports. Uh, there he is coming in. Grin won
02:23:38.900
the legend himself. Actually, I do have a point to make about the, um, like you have a woman.
02:23:44.460
So anyway, so back to this, just real precise exchange. Um, what we're looking at is the duality
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here. If I'm taking myself out of my shoes and I'm putting myself in your shoes, I'm trying to see
02:23:54.920
it from your angle. Cause to me it's insane, right? A woman saying, I don't, I'd rather, I'd rather
02:23:59.420
have a random, but I'm going, okay, this is the problem with the social commentary from
02:24:04.300
the female perspective. We're not listening to the women and how they feel about us. But
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then when I bring up the tree, you kind of instantly are like, yeah, of course a tree,
02:24:13.360
but then don't give a shit. Right. You're just like, well, and fuck them. I don't care if
02:24:17.460
they would prefer to talk to a tree. We have done nothing. We're perfect. If they have to
02:24:23.460
go talk to a tree, that's also men's fault. Can I ask you a question? Go ahead. Why do you
02:24:28.780
think men can't express their feelings to women or to anybody, honestly? Cause y'all
02:24:32.900
don't give a fuck. Yeah. Because you don't care and you don't. So the thing is, if you
02:24:37.180
don't, if you don't response. Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm going to answer your question,
02:24:42.080
right? If you don't give a shit, uh, and you don't, right. And this is why you know that
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no, not, and we don't, not, and we don't. Who said we don't give a shit? You did because
02:24:52.360
you said that, you know, that men would rather open up to a tree than you. I'm so sorry, but
02:24:56.040
that doesn't mean that I know men would rather open up to a tree does not mean that I don't
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give a shit about what a man says. Like, why would they prefer to open up to a tree than
02:25:06.640
you? Because men don't want to be nagged. Probably because of the system men have set up for
02:25:10.800
themselves. It's men's fault that they would rather talk to a tree. Probably because of
02:25:16.660
the system men have set up for themselves. Right. So it's men's fault that they would rather
02:25:19.800
talk to a tree. Women have no accountability at all, right? It actually is. Yeah, right.
02:25:24.220
Exactly. That's the whole point of the duality. The reason we don't give a shit about the
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absurd fucking answer of women who go, I'd rather fight a bear in the woods, even though
02:25:32.260
none of you ever experienced a fucking random bear in the woods. You have no idea what that's
02:25:36.760
like. It could be the most terrifying experience of your life. You have, what happened with you
02:25:41.340
and the bear in the woods? Tell me. Go ahead, tell me. Tell me a story about you and the bear
02:25:46.040
in the woods. I stood still and it was predictable and it went away. Yeah, what happened?
02:25:49.640
I stood still. I could predict what the bear would do when I would stand still and hide.
02:25:55.320
This actually happened? Yes. Where? I'm from California. I've been to Tahoe multiple of
02:25:59.200
times. So up in Tahoe, what type of bear came around you? A black bear. You just stood still
02:26:04.240
and it walked off? Yep. Where? Because bears, guess what? They're predictable. Men aren't.
02:26:12.060
Now, bears, especially in Tahoe, are not predictable. Especially because they eat human garbage and
02:26:17.820
things like this. People out there feed them. It's a massive problem. They're usually in those
02:26:22.660
areas ultra violent because they have no fear of humans. Totally unpredictable. But the point
02:26:27.660
is, is that we don't, the reason that we don't give a shit about the social commentary on this.
02:26:33.100
We don't care to see it from a woman's perspective of, but don't you men understand why it is that
02:26:38.840
you're so dangerous? It's because when I bring up a counter example of the tree, you go, well,
02:26:43.480
that's also men's fault. It is. It literally is your fault. You guys have set up this system
02:26:48.020
for yourselves. Wait, what system? What do you mean what system? Like men telling, men telling
02:26:54.240
their sons, men telling their sons, you know, you can't cry. You can't express this. You can't
02:26:58.780
express that. Be tough. That's y'all set that shit up. So hold on, Abigail, you respond. Then you have
02:27:03.760
something. Go ahead. Okay. I would say the reason sons are raised to suck it up is you asked him.
02:27:10.700
Exactly. This is just, hold on. This is just an example. You asked. Hold on. Paladins donated
02:27:16.180
$200. Maybe the bear was at the funeral. Could be. Y'all making some money. You asked him why he
02:27:23.700
thinks that men would pick the tree. And he answered and he answered with the same answer. And you said,
02:27:31.740
okay, give me an actual good answer. So they elaborated on how they feel on the subject. And
02:27:36.380
you started yelling. I never asked why they think. I wouldn't want to share my feeling
02:27:40.680
things with that. Can you be straight? Just be straight on. No, I'm. Oh, straight on. Like
02:27:46.160
turn the microphone. You're hiding behind the mic. Scoot it. Scoot it to the edge. Just scoot
02:27:52.300
it to the edge of the table. Scoot the mic to the edge of the table. Yeah. The reason, the
02:27:58.960
reason he's asking that from the, from the audience perspective, if you're, if your mouth isn't
02:28:04.760
actually close to the mic when you're speaking. No, I hear, I hear that. I hear what you're
02:28:08.600
saying. I, I didn't know my mic was far away. I apologize. Yeah. Yeah. It, well, I mean,
02:28:12.340
it happens all the time because, uh, you're in the conversation and it's easy for people
02:28:17.240
to shift. That's how body language works, all that stuff. So my bad. Yeah. Yeah. No big
02:28:21.320
deal. But, um, so if he expressed to Brian here, why he would rather talk to a tree than
02:28:28.540
a woman, Brian would understand. I doubt he'd talk over him or say that's not a good enough
02:28:32.820
answer. He expressed those feelings to you. You talked over him. You said it wasn't a good
02:28:36.560
enough answer, but you're also saying you responded that way and nobody would want to share their
02:28:40.740
feelings with that. That's just objectively true. You responded that way. And you're also
02:28:44.080
blaming men for not wanting to share their feelings with women. If I'm correct me if I'm wrong,
02:28:49.220
but all they said is they would rather talk to a tree. And that was just the answer. You're
02:28:53.800
actually interrupting me and you're just talking to me about interrupting you. I'm so glad I'm not
02:28:57.900
dating donated $200. Big stresses that I can only solve must be internalized and dealt with saving
02:29:05.740
the stress and worry from a spouse whom looks up to me for guidance and leadership.
02:29:13.560
Yo, I'm so glad I'm not. Hey, thank you for the TTS, man. Also, kill of cereal. Sorry if I was a
02:29:18.440
little tilted earlier. I don't know if you're still watching. Uh, it was just kind of a hectic
02:29:22.640
moment, but I'm so glad I'm not dating. Very good to see you. He was waiting for me to come on and
02:29:26.840
wish me happy Father's Day. That's all. I'm not even sure if he, he's still in the chat,
02:29:32.460
but I'm so glad I'm not dating. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Uh, go ahead with your...
02:29:35.980
That, um, I was just saying, they told me that they would rather speak to a tree
02:29:40.220
and they said, Oh, why is that? And I just said, well, y'all set that system up. That's all I said.
02:29:45.340
No. Well, no, actually the opposite happened. What happened is we asked you, what do you think men
02:29:50.460
would rather do? Talk to open up to a woman or open up to a tree? And you said to a tree, right? So
02:29:57.260
this was not us juxtaposing a position onto you. This was you rather telling us your position.
02:30:02.720
And then you guys agreed that you would rather talk to a tree. Right. Why? And I said, yeah. And
02:30:06.820
I said, it's why. Why would you rather talk to a tree? Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Can you just
02:30:10.160
straighten up? Here, look, straighten up, scoot the mic this way, scoot it to the very edge of the
02:30:15.120
table. Cause you end up, what you end up doing is you're like hiding behind the microphone.
02:30:19.580
So just speak straight into the microphone. So I have really bad posture. It's okay. Go ahead.
02:30:23.460
Um, so yeah, I was just saying like, why would men rather talk to a tree? Probably because
02:30:29.300
from the age of like two, they were told that they can't express their emotions. They can't
02:30:32.880
feel this. They can't feel that. They can't cry. They need to toughen up. Yeah. What I'm
02:30:36.760
going based off of is when you said you asked them, why do you guys think women would rather
02:30:42.400
or men would rather talk to a tree? And they said, because women don't care. And you said,
02:30:46.820
give me an actual good answer. That was both of their answers. And you didn't like their
02:30:50.480
answer. That was them expressing how they feel and you didn't like it.
02:30:53.460
So I'm happy to engage with their answer because I think it's actually interesting and rather
02:31:00.420
telling, right? It's, it's the man's fault that he would rather do that. But I, but this
02:31:05.420
is the duality that I'm trying to point out. The duality is this, the reason that you think
02:31:09.820
that men are so unpredictable, you don't know what they're going to do, this and that is
02:31:14.220
precisely because some men cannot control their emotions because they don't have good impulse
02:31:20.660
control because they do act out. And when they do act out, they do a lot of damage because
02:31:26.180
of their lack of emotional control. And yet here you are saying, if only men had less of
02:31:32.280
this emotional control could open up to us, uh, wouldn't that be actually counterproductive
02:31:38.300
So I think opening up to a part of empathy, like to, on a level of empathy, Nick, I, well,
02:31:47.560
okay. I'm willing to challenge my own delusion. I will say this. I'm willing to challenge my
02:31:52.260
hold on. I'm sorry. I wasn't this directed at you.
02:31:55.780
So you're kind of, uh, he was directing what I said towards you. You didn't hear what he
02:32:06.440
Okay. Well then I'll just have the conversation with the person who's listening to what I'm
02:32:09.220
actually saying. So anyway, back to, back to where we're at.
02:32:12.120
Wait, you know, hold on. I want to tune into something that actually just occurred. Andrew,
02:32:17.080
the, the thing that you brought up was, do you think a man would rather share his feelings
02:32:20.640
to a woman or a tree? Yeah. She wasn't listening to anything. Right. She wasn't listening. Even
02:32:26.600
though you've been perfectly. She doesn't care. Right. Even though, even though you've been
02:32:31.980
perfectly respectful, Andrew, you've been perfectly polite. She intentionally just refused to even
02:32:38.480
hear what you had to say and hear how you felt and hear how you thought about the conversation
02:32:45.760
at hand. She's literally just proved your point. I'm just going to say it wasn't intentional.
02:32:51.160
It's also your fault. I'm just going to say, you're speaking on me. So can I say something?
02:32:54.920
Go ahead. It wasn't intentional. I genuinely just spaced out. He was, you guys, you literally
02:33:00.560
asked him a question. Right. Which is why, which is why I would rather share my feelings
02:33:03.540
with a tree. What would be the difference? If I had shared my, if I shared my feelings
02:33:07.820
with you, you had as much of an emotional response as a tree. Andrew, Andrew, dude, I've shared
02:33:13.720
my feelings with men before and they've spaced out. Okay. ADHD is a thing, honey. Learn about
02:33:17.680
it. What is a thing? I said ADHD is a thing, honey. Learn about it. Hold on. Well, I mean,
02:33:23.200
learn about it. Any gender can have it. Any sex can have it. Okay. Hold on. What's your
02:33:27.540
ADHD? Yes, dude. You spaced out. Like, hello? I'm sorry. I didn't hear what you said. My
02:33:34.960
ADHD was going. Okay. And that's fair. And that's fair. Okay. A couple of things. Wait,
02:33:38.200
wait, what? I did. I'm sorry. I can't, I can't pay attention to what word you're saying
02:33:41.740
because my ADHD is going. That's fair. But anyway, back to it. So back to it. Wait,
02:33:44.820
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Can you just
02:33:49.580
scoot your mic to the edge of the table? My mouth is literally an inch away from this
02:33:53.240
microphone. I don't know. Fix your posture. I don't want to. My mouth is literally so
02:33:57.200
close to this microphone. No, but I'm saying you can scoot the mic back and then you move
02:34:01.460
your head back. But I'd rather just sit like this. Like I'm more comfortable. Whatever.
02:34:04.580
I'm not going to deal with this right now. Go ahead with your point. Okay. My point is
02:34:08.000
it is like in our society, women do find emotional men who talk about their feelings less attractive
02:34:13.480
and less masculine. And so they really don't want to be with them. So men will mask those
02:34:17.840
feelings because women don't want to be with a whiny guy. Who said that? I have a couple
02:34:23.600
things on this whole vulnerability shit too. Um, no, but who said that? It's not what you
02:34:29.040
say. It's actions. People, women will leave emotional men. They just will. You see it.
02:34:35.420
Who said that? I mean, I don't know. I feel like it depends on the women. I don't think
02:34:37.540
that's true. I don't think it's a gender thing. Okay. First of all. I mean, it's a, it's pretty,
02:34:41.540
it's pretty observable. It must be by your own standard because you say that men are too
02:34:45.060
stoic. I can ask a couple of clarifying questions on this. First off, men and women tend to try
02:34:51.680
to resolve problems in different ways. Typically men don't like to talk about our problems.
02:34:56.780
We either want solutions or we're just going to, we're just going to accept it and move
02:35:00.720
on. Now I do want to try to look at this from a dating lens here. So when it comes to this
02:35:06.020
vulnerability thing, uh, do you guys just show of hands, do you prefer a confident guy or
02:35:11.880
a guy? Like if a guy's approaching you, do you prefer him to be confident or would you
02:35:16.080
prefer him to be like kind of nervous and shy and shaky? So raise your hand if you prefer
02:35:21.940
confident, raise them high, raise them high, please. You prefer confident guys. Okay.
02:35:28.060
So you and you prefer nervous, shy, shaky dudes. I don't prefer like honestly anything. Cause
02:35:33.400
like if someone comes up to me, I'm not going to judge them for how they, I prefer. You're
02:35:36.880
not going to, so your confidence is not an attraction trigger for you. Confidence is attractive,
02:35:42.840
but I've been with someone who I was very happy with. He was, he was a dope guy and he
02:35:45.900
was, he was emotional. He was, oh, sorry. But you're not. Okay. If given the option.
02:35:50.860
You're not telling him that he wants to hear you. Oh, what do you want to hear?
02:35:54.300
It might genuinely be her answer, but she didn't really like, I don't know if she fully understood
02:35:58.860
the question. So. Maybe not. Would you prefer a guy to step to you in a confident manner
02:36:03.640
or a guy who's like shaky, a little nervous, eye contact's not great. I mean, he can, he
02:36:09.360
can be nervous. So if he's, if he's nervous, does that make him emotional? Well, we're talking
02:36:13.740
about vulnerability. I think that that, so I do think that that would be the trigger,
02:36:17.180
right? So if you're, if you're looking for a confidence or the things which you would
02:36:21.700
gauge as a confidence in men, I think that the metrics are somewhat similar between men
02:36:26.440
and women for how they judge confidence. And I think one of those standards is going to
02:36:30.780
be emotional control. So if a person, in other words, if a fire starts in your kitchen and
02:36:36.880
a guy starts running around and screaming, just like you do, you would say that that's
02:36:41.160
not a sign of confidence nor competence, right? Yeah. So that would be this kind of lack of
02:36:48.600
emotional control under adversarial conditions. Seems like that would be tied in with confidence
02:36:54.920
and competence. Well, I feel like a lack of emotional control doesn't like, I mean, like people
02:36:58.680
can have lack of emotional control and completely fake being confident. Like that's, yeah, I
02:37:02.740
don't think that has to do with being confident. Yeah, hang on. Yes, that's true. But what's
02:37:05.780
interesting is that that's why when adversarial positions are, are pushed on them, you start
02:37:11.200
to see whether or not that's a facade or it isn't a facade. That's one of the reasons that
02:37:15.560
women shit test, right? Because they're trying to kind of push that and see if this guy actually
02:37:20.780
is giving you a facade or if it's the real him. Well, what I've noticed a lot is that you've
02:37:25.480
made a general stereotype about women, just saying woman this, woman that, when you've
02:37:28.520
made an assumption about one woman at the table. Not all of us are, we don't, not all
02:37:32.800
of us don't care. Not all of us would rather a man speak to a tree than us. Like genuinely
02:37:37.600
like as me, like I try to be the best person that I could possibly be. If someone needs to
02:37:40.780
talk to me, I'm not going to judge them for it. If someone walks up to me. Yeah, but actually
02:37:43.720
the kind of the fallacy here or fallacious argumentations on your behalf, because what you're doing is
02:37:49.200
taking a generalized statement saying, but not me though, but it's not. No, I'm just saying
02:37:53.160
it's not, it's not mapped to you specifically. So if I say, for instance, most women, hang
02:38:01.280
on, hang on. If I say most women like tall men and you go, but I don't like tall men
02:38:06.680
though. That's a non sequra has nothing to do with what I'm saying. It would not change
02:38:11.080
the fact that most women do, even if you don't. But it does change an opinion. Well,
02:38:17.300
I'm just saying that not that you're asking for the same opinion. Like I have a different
02:38:20.480
one. She's going to have a different one. They're going to have different ones. Like everyone
02:38:23.080
like you can't make a generalized, sorry, I'm not talking. You can't make really a generalized
02:38:26.340
statement based off of one woman, like per se, like I don't want to. We're not, we're not
02:38:30.340
doing that though. Well, you keep saying women, this woman, that. Yeah, I know. I'm making
02:38:34.520
a generalized statement based on what we see in observations in society. Not that every
02:38:39.400
specific woman follows these same criteria. I'm sure that there's plenty of women who like
02:38:45.040
short guys. I haven't met very many of them, but I'm sure that they're out there, but in general,
02:38:49.160
but hang on, but in general, they don't seem to like short guys. Was it not a generalized
02:38:53.100
statement when you said women don't care when men speak about their feelings? That's a generalized
02:38:56.680
statement. Well, no, that was applied at the micro, not the macro, because every woman at
02:39:01.000
the table said that they know that men would prefer to talk to a tree rather than them.
02:39:05.380
What does that have to do with a woman? Okay, that's where I had an original point. That's
02:39:09.380
society's norms. That's not, it can be gender based, but it also can't. So your objection
02:39:13.020
to generalize, you object to generalizations? Is that your point? Not necessarily. I would
02:39:19.440
say that some men would prefer to talk to a tree, but that's just because of society.
02:39:23.200
That's not because of women or men. It's not like a gender. It's not because of gender.
02:39:27.840
That's because of how society has trained them to think. Like I would rather talk to a tree
02:39:31.940
than anyone. It's not a thing about gender. It's just like comfortability because like
02:39:35.540
If that's true, I think we can test and see if that's true by asking a follow-up question.
02:39:40.300
That's my point. Let's just ask a basic follow-up question. Do you think that men
02:39:43.660
are more likely to open up to their feelings to women or to other men?
02:39:47.860
Probably to other men. Honestly, it depends on the type because I feel like with my
02:39:51.420
Just in general, in general. Everything depends. Well, it depends because you talk about different
02:39:55.040
stuff with like girlfriends. Well, yeah, the world isn't black and white, dude.
02:39:58.220
There's layers to everything. There's generalizations you can make. There's layers to everything.
02:40:02.040
I have a comment. I agree. There's layers to everything. But if we were to say
02:40:05.200
that 51% would be most and 49% would be not most, would you say that most men would prefer
02:40:13.920
to talk to other men about their feelings or would prefer to talk to women about their feelings?
02:40:17.840
From what I've noticed, actually women, like most of my guy friends at least, they've talked
02:40:22.780
about it. And I've talked about this with my parents as well, including my dad and my stepdad.
02:40:26.880
And they're like, oh, like there's just women and men have a different relationship.
02:40:30.380
Then why in the world would you take the position that they would rather talk to a tree about their
02:40:35.720
feelings than you if you think most of them would prefer to talk to women over men? That
02:40:41.280
makes no sense. It's absurd. Because first it was trees and men and now it's women and men. So
02:40:45.400
what are we talking about? Yeah, but if your position is, do you think that a man would rather talk to
02:40:50.440
a tree about their feelings than talk to a woman? That's what your actual position is. Then why then would
02:40:57.940
you say that you think that men would prefer to talk to women about their feelings over
02:41:03.280
men? I feel like anyone would rather talk to a tree than another human being. It's easier
02:41:05.880
to open up, honestly. You think, so, okay, so I see. So you think that all people would
02:41:09.880
rather talk to a tree about their feelings? Not all people, but like coming from, I don't
02:41:13.540
know, everyone here, I don't know, would you guys rather open up to someone or like talk
02:41:17.020
to a tree because the tree's not going to judge you? A tree? So then let me, so then, so
02:41:20.240
that we can just clear this up really fast. I guess if you want feedback, yeah. We can clear it up
02:41:22.720
super quick. We can totally clear this up in one second. So going around with just a
02:41:30.700
quick question, do you think then going around the table one more time that men would rather
02:41:35.740
open up about their feelings to women or to other men? Show of hands. Can you take her
02:41:41.460
phone? Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Would you, would, do you think men would prefer to open up to
02:41:47.180
other men about their feelings or to women about their feelings? Honestly, going around the
02:41:52.340
table. I'm still saying women. I'm going to say women. I say women and I have some interesting
02:41:57.060
statistics on that. Okay. I, I, hold on, keep going, keep going. Um, men probably, I don't
02:42:07.240
know. Probably women. If they're married women, but men usually friends. Probably men because
02:42:15.600
they can relate to what they're saying. Women usually aren't able to. Andrea, I do want to
02:42:20.380
move this on pretty soon here, but do you, do you want to finish up? No, I'm just going
02:42:26.460
to let that stand. Yeah. Okay. Well, now last thing on the bear thing, I do actually want
02:42:32.380
to ask the question. So what percentage of men, those of you who answered bear, what percentage
02:42:39.660
of men do you think in the circumstances provided would choose to victimize you? Starting with
02:42:46.400
you? Go ahead. What percentage of men? Right. Cause it's, so if it were in the United States,
02:42:52.260
uh, it's a random man, that's half the population. I don't know. How much is that? 160 million
02:42:58.780
men? Yep. You're asking what percentage of them would choose to victimize me? Right. So you,
02:43:03.920
so you picked the bear over the man. So you must've done some sort of calculus where you feel
02:43:09.040
that the risk that's okay. You feel the risk is greater with a man compared to a bear. So you must
02:43:15.120
have some sort of determination when it comes to, uh, risk assessment. So if you had to assign a
02:43:22.420
percentage, which men would choose to attack you? I guess. Which type of men? No, no, no, no. What
02:43:28.380
percentage of men would attack you? I mean, like, I feel like that's kind of hard to answer. I'm just
02:43:35.840
going to piggyback off of what she said, which is that bears are predictable. Okay. You know that
02:43:41.480
their main, but I'm asking you a question. So this, I'm getting to the answer. Okay. Go ahead.
02:43:47.440
Bears main, like a bear. We know their main goal is to kill us, right? Whatever. They want to attack
02:43:52.900
our face, how you guys are saying whatever. Talked about that. Yep. Men, we don't know. They have
02:43:58.120
like a plethora of things they could do. Sure. Manipulation could be a part of it. They could
02:44:02.540
be like, Oh, I'm going to take you home. Don't even worry. And then boom, they kill you. It could
02:44:05.560
be, uh, and so that's why I feel like it's a higher percentage with men versus bears. Cause we know what
02:44:13.780
to do in the situation with a bear. Most people have been, I don't know if most people have, but I've been
02:44:17.860
taught what to do in the situation with a bear with men. I'm, am I not speaking
02:44:22.680
into it? You're, you're like, you're like over here. Is it like only in the center? You just
02:44:26.820
like, think of like, I'm like actually so confused. Okay. Think of the center of your mouth. The
02:44:33.300
center of your mouth needs to be center with the microphone. Okay. So the sides don't count.
02:44:37.300
I can't talk into the sides. Center of the microphone. Gotcha. Center. Um, yeah, there's a
02:44:43.000
plethora of things men can do. So can you answer the question though? What person? I, yeah, I just
02:44:49.560
guesstimate. I acknowledge, yes, a man could do all sorts of things. So I'm going to say
02:44:53.840
a higher percentage. I don't fucking know the percentage, but I'm going to say it's
02:44:56.020
higher. Well, like 50, 75. How about, do you think it's a majority of men? So more than
02:45:01.140
51%. Yes. Okay. Do you want to actually give us a range? Do you think it's 60? You think
02:45:08.660
it's 70? I don't know. I don't know. I just think it's, it's a lot of men. Okay. So do you
02:45:16.180
want to actually just throw a percentage out there? No. Well, you've, you already
02:45:20.100
said it's over 51. So just throw a percentage out. I just don't know the percentage. I just
02:45:24.100
know it's like higher than half. More than half. Yeah. Per se, we could like 51%. Sure.
02:45:29.400
51%. Okay. You said there, correct? Yes. What percentage of men do you think would attack
02:45:34.740
you in these circumstances? Based on my life, based on my track record, 10%. Honestly. I agree.
02:45:41.260
Again, from my personal record, I feel like, I feel like 51% from my personal statistics,
02:45:47.700
not from anyone else's. Your personal statistics. Like from what's happened to me in my life,
02:45:51.640
not anyone else's. Like. Okay. Um, so you have a, like, do you have any siblings, male siblings?
02:45:59.700
Uh, my brother. Mm-hmm. Father, uncles. Oh yeah. No, I have a stepdad and a dad, uncles. Okay.
02:46:09.800
And like all the men, so you're basically the men that you know in your life, 51% of them
02:46:15.740
would victimize a woman in these circumstances? I wouldn't say the men in my life, but men.
02:46:21.540
So you're just a better judge of character than the general population or? Oh no, no, no, not
02:46:25.540
at all. Like again, from my, like, and I'm not speaking for everyone else. Everyone has their
02:46:28.600
own stuff. Like I don't hate men. Like I'm just saying from my personal life, I love my
02:46:32.080
stepdad. So in your personal life, what's the percentage? I'd say 51%. And I'm not saying
02:46:37.460
like my. No, of the men that you know in your personal life. Oh, that are right now? That
02:46:40.820
you know. Yeah. Right now, none of them. Cause I don't like, I, I don't need those people
02:46:44.140
in my life if they're going to like victimize me and like do this bad shit to me. Like
02:46:47.120
there's no reason to have them in my life. So every man that's in my life right now
02:46:50.320
is they're cool. I don't have nothing but respect for them, including my father. Who
02:46:57.320
else said there? Did anybody over here say there? No. Okay. So just to be clear, you
02:47:02.140
guys think that 80 million men in the United States would choose to attack a woman in these
02:47:08.680
circumstances. Just so I have that understanding. Correct. I think it's hard to put a number on
02:47:13.980
this. How is it hard? I just think it really just like kind of depends. I don't know. If
02:47:21.920
you put like a bunch of men and like say like a purge night where everything is legal, do
02:47:25.440
you think that 51% of men would like be like go like nuts or not? That's just. I'm not entirely
02:47:33.340
familiar with that movie. I think I have a. Basically they kill and all the crimes are legal.
02:47:37.880
Basically. All the crimes are legal. Yeah. Even in that movie, it wasn't that high. Like
02:47:41.920
murder and stuff like that. So if you put. Yeah. Yeah. Even in the movie, it wasn't that
02:47:45.780
high. Even in the movie, not at that many people participated in the purge. That's an insane
02:47:51.060
number. Well, that's a fantasy. 50. She was actually using that as an example. 51% of men
02:47:56.640
would do that. Why wouldn't they just enslave all women then? I don't know. I mean, that's
02:48:00.340
like, that's like going back to the movie, the midwife or what's it called? The midwife
02:48:03.600
or whatever. But like, that's, that's not. Why are we talking about movies? Movies are
02:48:07.560
not real life. It was a hypothetical. No, I'm saying hypothetically, if you got a real
02:48:11.900
life purge, like if everyone in this room, if we, sorry, if we started a purge, I think
02:48:16.220
that 51% of men would like, I don't know. What percentage of women? I'd say, I don't
02:48:22.360
know. 1%? 1% of women? 99% of women are good. 50, minimum 51% of men are bad. Oh, they
02:48:29.040
would like go after men? No, I'd say like, I mean, it's obviously going to be a large
02:48:31.920
amount because like both genders obviously like have issues, but statistically more crimes
02:48:35.680
are committed like by men. Like according to studies. What percentage of women in the
02:48:39.920
purge situation? Yeah, it's true. I mean, that's true, but it's such a tiny, do you, do you realize
02:48:45.120
that the amount of violent crime perpetrated by men as a whole, it's still very, very small.
02:48:51.240
Most men are not out committing violent crime. Almost no man, in fact. Well, almost no man,
02:48:55.860
but if you think that the repercussions were taken away. Almost no man, you're talking about
02:48:59.940
a small percentage of society, whichever commits violent crimes, teeny tiny percentage.
02:49:06.020
I mean, you're saying most of them are not men who are committing these crimes.
02:49:10.900
No, that's not what I said. I said even if more men commit crimes than women, it's still a small
02:49:16.300
percentage of men overall who commit crimes. No, but are we speaking like, say again, there's
02:49:21.560
repercussions, say the repercussions are taken away. Do you think that that would make more men act
02:49:24.820
out? Are they not acting out like that because it's against their morals? Yeah, I think that more women
02:49:29.040
would act out as well if you took the repercussions away. Well, I mean, yeah, I'm not saying that's
02:49:32.340
wrong. I just think statistically, according to all of that, like I don't want to mention
02:49:36.960
certain topics on here, but more, and I'm not saying it doesn't happen with women, but statistically
02:49:40.940
more men do crimes like that. And I'm not saying like, because I hate men or anything, like
02:49:46.860
it's literally just a statistic. Yeah, but I mean, there's no disagreement that more men commit
02:49:51.860
violent crimes than women. Nobody's disagreeing that that's true. Oh, no, I know. It's this scale in which
02:49:57.060
you believe it's true that we're questioning. Well, let's say beyond probable cause, that's 51%.
02:50:01.460
Your statement, women could be like 49%, was that
02:50:09.300
men commit a small amount of crimes. Grid One Motorsport
02:50:17.080
forest is trying to get away from women and have no interest in
02:50:20.960
hurting you. Stupid women. Fucking professional victims on this show.
02:50:24.200
Get some fucking help. Thanks for the 200. Nah, that's real sad. I'm going to let a couple
02:50:29.220
pay $200 to say that. Okay. I need to read two chats. Um, Abigail, you want to, you want
02:50:34.960
to try to hold on? Nick, hide it, hide it, hide it, hide it, please.
02:50:46.380
How is the pink shirt? I'll read it. I'll read it.
02:50:58.660
I'm not going to read, I'm not reading the rest of that
02:51:15.360
Well, it's Ben's fault. I don't think he's being emotional.
02:51:21.500
It's a podcast. You can share his opinion. That's what a podcast is.
02:51:28.420
Paladins, I was kind of, uh, I was kind of noticing that. Like when I got tilted, like,
02:51:33.380
do you see the sort of like, uh, how do I explain it? When I was tilted, there's almost
02:51:38.740
this sort of like, wait, hold on. Let me, please let me finish.
02:52:01.580
I feel like you have the same. I don't enjoy riling people
02:52:08.680
I feel like you've been, um, talking very, um, rudely, like even just, oh, speak in the
02:52:17.500
It's not, it's not that it's rude. It's your, um, the tone in your voice that you're
02:52:27.540
You did it to me and you didn't have to remind me seven times and you gave me a
02:52:32.500
I did, before the show, before the show, did I instruct you politely to speak into the
02:52:38.700
Sure, but you don't have to be rude about it. You've got to remind somebody one time.
02:52:41.700
And I don't even think it was about the microphone, which you-
02:52:44.200
It's your little comments like, oh, these girls can't even comprehend hypotheticals.
02:52:47.840
You couldn't actually comprehend a hypothetical.
02:52:53.140
No. Um, you actually couldn't comprehend a hypothetical when she brought up the Purge movie.
02:52:58.580
You were like, why are we talking about movies? That was a hypothetical.
02:53:00.600
You're out here saying, we can't comprehend hypotheticals. That's rude.
02:53:03.400
You're making all these little side comments. Sorry for fucking that word.
02:53:05.800
Well, no, that actually wasn't a hypothetical. So she was, what she was doing was taking
02:53:10.100
an event, a placed event, and then making a creative analogy. It wasn't actually a hypothetical.
02:53:24.280
No, you're not going to have to interrupt him. Go ahead, Andrew.
02:53:27.000
Yeah, well, I'm just saying that that wasn't actually a hypothetical.
02:53:29.780
She was trying to draw statistics from something which is observable that she has seen before.
02:53:35.340
There was not really, there wasn't a question which was involved that would have made that
02:53:43.780
You telling me, oh, can you even pronounce the word hypothetical? That's a rude comment
02:53:48.180
right there. Like, you know what you're doing. You're trying to rile it up.
02:53:54.420
I don't know how you, like, can't even, like, see that for yourself. Like, truly, it actually
02:53:58.720
is boggling my mind, and I'm honestly concerned that you can't understand how you have been-
02:54:03.020
And you can't understand how to speak into the microphone.
02:54:09.980
Oh, my God. Is that really our biggest issue here? I feel like you're our biggest issue here.
02:54:14.060
Or is this really me speaking into the microphone, our biggest issue here?
02:54:19.520
You've now corrected it. Go ahead with your point.
02:54:26.800
You can't even converse with me on important things.
02:54:29.340
You just, like, to point out, oh, look at you. Cool, cool, cool.
02:54:31.700
Like, you don't even know how to, like, have an actual conversation when a woman is bringing up a point that's actually correct.
02:54:38.680
My point is that you've been just as rude as I have been.
02:54:42.200
And when I say that, you're just like, oh, can you even speak into a mic?
02:55:00.260
Oh, I think I can definitely have an attitude when necessary.
02:55:05.040
You were prying her about her friend's passing.
02:55:07.500
I think that's rude and disrespectful, and I called you out on it.
02:55:10.700
And then suddenly you have a problem with that.
02:55:16.240
Are we doing call-out culture, you fucking bimbo?
02:55:33.080
Yeah, you remember how I never insulted you, but you insulted me?
02:55:37.340
That's exactly how it started with Brian, too, because you're a brat, and you can't control
02:55:46.800
You called me a brat first, then I called you a bimbo.
02:56:00.940
No, I mean, just like the nagging and the name-calling and just like-
02:56:06.920
It's just funny because I'm watching a grown man nag like a girl-
02:56:17.500
No, you called me a brat first, then I called you a bimbo, honey.
02:56:25.900
You called me a himbo, so I said you're a brat.
02:56:30.600
I thought he said that you were being a brat, and that's why-
02:56:33.840
No, no, I thought you said she was being a brat because-
02:56:39.880
And then I think she called you a bimbo, but maybe I'm wrong.
02:57:11.640
No, I'm a himbo, and that's the shirt that we got made.
02:57:31.680
A bear might mull you to pieces if it thinks you are a threat to its cubs.
02:57:35.260
Also, a bear is not going to help you find a way out of the woods, but the man might.
02:57:40.420
In fact, most men are decent and would try to assist a woman lost in the woods, no matter
02:58:09.220
You can reason with a man, you can't reason with a bear.
02:58:11.540
I don't actually know if you can reason with a man.
02:58:13.460
I mean, I tried to reason with y'all, and it wasn't working.
02:58:15.680
I'm going to reason with a predator, but I'm not saying all men are predators.
02:58:18.680
Your guys' logic why you wouldn't choose the man and you'd choose the bear because the
02:58:23.640
bear is more predictable is why I would choose the man because I can predict.
02:58:28.660
There's like, even if it is a 51% chance, a 51% chance that I'm going to be victimized,
02:58:34.120
that is way better odds than 100% or like even 99% chance that I'll get killed.
02:58:39.980
I feel like if you had a 51% chance that you were going to get victimized, you would go with
02:58:43.740
the odds that you're going to get victimized and you wouldn't talk to a man, but with that
02:58:49.560
51% chance that I'm screwed versus 100% chance that I'm screwed?
02:58:53.920
So you've got a 49% chance that you won't be victimized.
02:58:57.800
It's also not a 100% chance that you're screwed.
02:58:59.900
But if you've got a 51% chance, you're going to be victimized by a man for sure.
02:59:10.260
I'm choosing the man because the odds that I'm going to be victimized.
02:59:15.940
You guys, you guys, please just speak into the mic straight on.
02:59:18.480
Versus the, I would say maybe 99% chance that I get victimized by a bear.
02:59:24.860
But you don't, I mean, so you're saying it's a 100% chance you're going to get victimized
02:59:28.820
by a bear and only a 51% chance you're going to get victimized by a bear?
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If you had to choose between these two, which do you pick?
03:00:14.880
What if Kyle manipulates you, takes you into his truck?
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Yeah, we're working alone in a forest with a man.
03:00:30.420
I'm just going to get through my rapid-fire questions here.
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Women also have testosterone, just so you know.
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they'd rather fall victim to a bear 100% of the time
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compared to the 51% probability of being victimized by a man.
03:01:58.120
but it will be entertaining to watch you make excuses
03:02:31.040
Allison, why don't you tell us the abandoning guy...
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So, please keep that in mind on the way that I acted.
03:04:14.460
He went to a gas station to go get something to drink.
03:04:25.880
And I was like, block him on everything right now.
03:04:39.800
But I know Liz's parents did eventually get it back to them.
03:04:48.200
Oh, well, I guess that makes it all better then.
03:04:58.540
Yeah, I mean, maybe hanging out with a tree is a better idea, too.
03:05:04.040
Would the tree abandon you in the bottom of Illinois?
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You don't think, like, men have done type things to women?
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So, she does something absolutely horrible, and that's also men's fault, right?
03:05:20.900
Because they've done horrible things, so therefore no accountability, right?
03:05:32.060
I put myself in a bad, dangerous situation and a stupid situation.
03:05:57.780
This guy who trusted you and got in your car and did nothing to you, who you abandoned
03:06:01.040
and stole his luggage, I mean, because you didn't feel safe.
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What kind of man just gets in a car with two random women?
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I'm definitely not saying it's this man's fault in this situation.
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Like, oh, yeah, no wonder why I'd rather talk to a tree.
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Like, men have done all types of stuff to women, too.
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So it's not really, like, fair to say that's why.
03:06:51.740
You can shift accountability off from her story and horrible things she did that she justifies
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Where are you debating this from against yourself?
03:07:01.000
I said I did that thing before I was a Christian.
03:07:05.300
You said you justified it by saying that you didn't feel safe.
03:07:20.440
It's that I put myself in a dangerous situation.
03:07:24.360
I'm just saying, I said it was before I was a Christian.
03:07:34.560
I felt bad for him, but also I was a terrible person.
03:07:38.900
I mean, have you ever said you were sorry to this guy?
03:07:42.200
No, because it was years later when I realized how bad it was.
03:07:48.820
She said she didn't feel safe, and that's okay.
03:07:54.520
I ditched him because I was a mean person back then, and I didn't care about other people
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or how bad it put them out or anything like that.
03:08:04.140
I went to Buddy O'Brien's house and went snowboarding, and we did go to my mom's, and yeah.
03:08:30.740
I'm sorry, does every question need to lead to some kind of gotcha outcome?
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Probably to get that reaction, I guess, out of the question.
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You don't know what the point of her story was?
03:09:07.240
It's a video game term, actually dating all the way back to pinball machines.
03:09:12.480
So when you used to play a pinball machine, if you were, like, playing the game and you
03:09:16.320
got frustrated, people would literally tilt the game.
03:09:20.080
And so in a video game, like, if you're, you keep losing matches or you're not getting
03:09:25.360
good RNG, you're not getting good luck in a video game, you can become frustrated.
03:09:33.420
By the way, I'm glad you turned it all around and that you don't do horrible things like that
03:10:04.640
No, we just wanted to see, like, what was in here and we found.
03:10:09.400
Okay, you know, like, those little pills that you can buy at a gas station?
03:10:14.820
So I was like, so he already thought, because I gave off that impression.
03:10:28.260
There's no way he had boner pills in his luggage.
03:10:36.460
But he was under the impression you guys were going to go off for the weekend and smash,
03:10:48.000
I've done something like that before, and I felt bad.
03:10:58.180
So, basically, I was at the club, and I met this old man who was buying me and my dude some
03:11:09.280
I met this man, this older man, who was buying me and this dude some drinks, and then he offered
03:11:18.680
to give us, me and my friends, an Uber back home.
03:11:21.660
So, you know, he was going to give us an Uber back home, and then I checked the address, and the address
03:11:37.440
He got in the car, and then my friends kicked him out of the car.
03:11:41.560
I actually don't think you did anything wrong there.
03:11:44.460
As explained, he was going to get you and Uber back to your place, right?
03:11:50.100
But then he was trying to get you guys, unbeknownst to you, to his place.
03:12:00.660
Well, unless I'm misunderstanding something, but...
03:12:06.080
Well, the plan was to go back to your place, right?
03:12:10.460
Well, yeah, but, like, it wasn't for him to come back to the place.
03:12:13.180
He was just supposed to get us an Uber to our house.
03:12:17.400
I think he thought he was supposed to come hang out with us.
03:12:24.000
He was kind of just doing you, like, a nice thing, just like he was going to pay for your...
03:12:31.820
And he maybe thought he was going to go hang out with you guys, but then he put the address
03:12:41.260
Yeah, originally he put it into his address, and I was like, no, put it into our address.
03:12:44.120
And then I think he thought he was going to come kick it with us.
03:12:46.620
And then they, like, started screaming in the Uber, which I thought was a great move.
03:12:56.660
Like, they started screaming in the Uber and being like, we don't know this dude.
03:13:02.320
So, yeah, I'm saying from your guys' perspective, like, yeah, maybe that was fucked up.
03:13:06.340
Nah, I think this was actually probably just like a drunken mix-up.
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I mean, if you didn't want to hang out with a guy, I don't think there's anything wrong with telling him no.
03:13:27.000
In any case, okay, let's go through the rapid-fire questions.
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Who is the primary victim of war, men or women, starting with you?
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I'm going to need a minute to think about that.
03:13:45.100
You're going to have to start with somebody else.
03:14:04.340
Now, for those of you who said both, assuming you had to pick one or the other, which do you
03:14:15.780
I mean, I don't want to know if y'all want me to elaborate, but I feel like the women
03:14:21.900
If the men are at war and they're dying, and the women got to pick up the pieces of all
03:14:26.940
that, you know, and then raise children by themselves and all that, then, I mean, they're both really
03:14:32.620
I would say both are victims, but he asked who's the primary victim.
03:14:40.000
I mean, there's children now growing up with fathers and all that, and so...
03:14:47.820
So, and then we're talking about, like, literal war, right?
03:14:59.600
So, going back to your point, you're saying, well, it's both because, well, the men are
03:15:08.100
They've lost their husband, their father, son, whatever it is.
03:15:10.780
Yeah, you don't know what they have to do to keep it going.
03:15:13.820
But wouldn't you agree that when it comes to being a victim of something, being really,
03:15:23.340
I mean, what's the emotional trauma being passed down now onto these generations through
03:15:36.840
Now, let's say your grandpa goes to war, your dad goes to war, your uncles go to war.
03:15:40.820
Now, your grandma and your mom is raising, let's say, five, six, seven children, and you
03:15:48.660
Like, and these kids don't have any fathers in their lives.
03:15:51.300
So, are they really the, I mean, the men, sure, they died.
03:15:54.480
They went to war and fought and died, but they're still a victim.
03:16:00.040
If somebody has cancer and then they die of cancer, are they the primary victim?
03:16:09.240
Yeah, but you still have to pick up the pieces and you have emotional trauma.
03:16:13.220
All the same, all the same side effects, right?
03:16:15.780
Well, are you, when you say primary victim, are you talking about like physically?
03:16:24.720
I'm not making any differentiation between mentally, physically.
03:16:27.480
I feel like you kind of have to, though, in this situation.
03:16:35.480
I think he made a good point with the cancer thing.
03:16:40.280
Speaking of which, we didn't get your answer to the question.
03:16:44.640
I would ask, who would you rather be, a man in war or a woman at home stuck with, you
03:16:53.060
I mean, you're asking a woman from her point of view what I would rather be.
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Just what situation would you rather find yourself in?
03:17:10.900
Would you rather go fight the wars while the men stayed at home?
03:17:28.920
I mean, I don't think anybody wants to fight a war.
03:17:30.580
Do you think, so let's assume for a second that you're happily married, okay, and your
03:17:34.820
husband has like a busted leg, okay, and you get drafted and you get sent off to war
03:17:41.740
And while you're in the war and there's blood and guts everywhere and you're watching your
03:17:45.200
friends get, you know, sniped and all this other stuff.
03:17:49.220
And you, hang on, and you die, is your husband as much of a victim as you?
03:18:08.380
He's just as much of a victim of war as I am, I think.
03:18:12.720
In his next marriage, he can sit down and be like, oh, man, I've had it rough.
03:18:18.120
My wife died in a war and I'm as much of a victim as she is.
03:18:29.380
I mean, if a woman has stood there and her man died and now she's got to go on with that.
03:18:34.760
I mean, who is to even say like she goes and remarries, but let's say she does.
03:18:39.980
I'm not saying she's not going to have like emotional trauma from it.
03:18:42.460
I'm just asking, do you really think that she's the primary victim here?
03:18:53.040
Well, then how come your husband wouldn't be the primary victim if you went off the war?
03:19:01.400
Like my answer to the question wasn't man or woman.
03:19:12.440
I think they're very much equally primary victims of war.
03:19:20.960
If if my husband dies of cancer, I feel like I'm primarily a victim of cancer.
03:19:26.460
Now I have to sit here and pick up the pieces of that.
03:19:28.900
So now that makes me somewhat a victim as well.
03:19:33.740
So if you could choose if your husband if your husband had cancer or you had cancer, you could choose which one would you choose?
03:19:43.320
What if like if we had to choose which one had to have cancer?
03:19:45.800
I mean, I think being a righteous person, you'd always choose yourself.
03:19:54.880
I mean, but would you be victimizing him a bit?
03:19:58.820
I mean, yeah, but he would be a victim if he chose him.
03:20:02.800
If I wanted to do it and he wanted, you know, so.
03:20:07.840
Well, I have a couple clarifying questions on this one.
03:20:10.820
So when it comes to some of you said both, does anybody here think it's women or is it both?
03:20:20.440
So I'd like to perhaps break this down into a couple different conflicts.
03:20:27.480
So the United States, for World War I, who's the primary victim of war of the U.S. population during World War I, men or women, or is it both?
03:20:49.540
Does that change your answer at all for those of you who said both?
03:20:52.120
Well, I mean, who was the primary victim who had the most casualties was obviously men and probably young men at that.
03:20:58.920
But, you know, does that mean the women weren't victims in World War I?
03:21:12.900
For World War I, what's your answer for U.S. men?
03:21:16.760
For U.S. men, I think, well, since I said both, I feel like men, it's more physical, like physical trauma.
03:21:28.240
Well, I mean, it's just because, like, say your, like, husband died, and that's, like, the love of your life.
03:21:35.840
And I believe in World War I, or no, I guess it was probably more like World War II, where it was, like, the economy went really bad.
03:21:42.380
And women were the ones who had to carry the economy.
03:21:45.660
So, just to be clear, on the World War II note that you just brought up, the economy.
03:21:51.920
Yeah, but it's sad because women didn't have rights before that.
03:21:55.580
That's why they gave us rights, because they couldn't work.
03:21:58.840
Just to be clear, you said women didn't, there's a lot.
03:22:01.600
I mean, they did have some rights, but they didn't have the right to vote.
03:22:06.640
Wait, just to be clear, just to be clear, women, you're saying, your argument is women didn't have the right to vote during World War II.
03:22:12.780
I mean, I can't remember the year, but if it was the 30s, 40s, or 50s that women were able to vote.
03:22:21.340
Well, here, let me ask you a different question.
03:22:34.480
It was the 19, the late 1920s, 1930s, I believe, wasn't it?
03:22:39.600
Or didn't it start, it all started, like, Nazi Germany, all that started around, like, the 20s, the early 20s.
03:22:46.780
So, I can't give you exact dates, because I can't remember.
03:22:51.340
I mean, you said late 30s, so you're not totally far off.
03:23:00.420
Okay, so, okay, women got the right, okay, World War I, 1914 to 1918, women got the right to vote, 1920, World War II, 1939, 1945.
03:23:15.260
Well, I know women weren't really working during World War II up until that time, so I know that that's when women became in the workforce.
03:23:22.880
And you think women having to be involved in the war effort during World War II is a bigger level of success?
03:23:30.380
Suffering and victimization than the men who had to go to war?
03:23:33.700
I mean, what are the women having to deal with?
03:23:49.460
They had to go into factories, sometimes for up to eight hours a day.
03:24:01.700
They're at home taking care of all the children, all the bills.
03:24:19.540
Man, I know some history, but I can't remember exact years.
03:24:23.240
Wait, what would be the distinction now between a single mom getting up and going to work?
03:24:29.760
If the victim, they're victims because they had to look after their own children, which
03:24:36.740
they would have to do anyway, and they had to work.
03:24:57.460
I know during the World War II economy was not that great.
03:25:02.760
Maybe the economy was great, but I thought it wasn't from what I thought.
03:25:17.520
It's way more emotionally traumatizing to deal with the death rather than getting blown
03:25:25.580
So let me just throw out a couple statistics here.
03:25:29.180
So 16 million Americans served in the United States Armed Forces during World War II.
03:25:46.320
There were also 130,000 American prisoners of war, of whom 116,000 were turned home after
03:25:59.860
And maybe, Andrew, I don't know if you can help me search this.
03:26:02.740
What percentage of the serving military men were married?
03:26:10.200
Because typically, they are drafting 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds.
03:26:17.480
Again, uncles, fathers, brothers, not just husbands.
03:26:19.820
Let's just, for the sake of argument, say that a majority of the men were not married, didn't
03:26:26.080
have children, didn't have a significant other, didn't have a girlfriend.
03:26:34.000
In my view, the secondary victims would be who?
03:26:37.620
It's estimated, it's estimated, wait, hold on, about 46% were married.
03:26:47.700
But let's talk about then that majority of men who were single, who were not married.
03:26:55.000
If we talk about them, we look at them, they, I assume they only had a mother and a father.
03:27:01.380
If they're the ones that go and die, and they don't have a significant other to mourn for
03:27:07.700
them, wouldn't the, hold on, let me finish my point.
03:27:14.040
Wouldn't, you said, okay, you said mom, grandma, sister.
03:27:20.980
You, you do realize that the suffering, the, the secondary suffering that you're alluding
03:27:26.000
to, that is experienced by family members, is equally shared by the genders.
03:27:31.580
The mother loses a son, the father loses a son.
03:27:37.980
I think it's wrong to like, think that women aren't just as much as victims, but okay.
03:27:46.320
So, but actually engage with the scenario I'm giving you here.
03:27:49.840
Of the single men who had, let's assume they had a mom and a father who were living, and
03:27:55.820
let's say they had no siblings, and it was just the mom and the father, and then that
03:28:04.480
His mom is going to, his mom is going to grieve.
03:28:10.480
In that scenario, who's the primary victim of war?
03:28:15.340
Um, I mean, definitely the guy, I guess, but I mean, who's, who's to say that the emotional
03:28:22.840
impact and physical and financial impact doesn't reflect just as much in the family?
03:28:32.960
Let's, I'm, I'm trying to look at this from a math perspective here.
03:28:47.740
Yeah, I'm just asking you, who's the primary victim?
03:29:00.460
I feel like, I feel like I'm definitely pro-woman's choice, so I'm not going to sit here and handle.
03:29:05.140
All right, let me, let me, we can come to that later.
03:29:09.920
If there's one mother, if there's one father, and there's one male who dies, and if this is the majority of the men that were involved in World War II that lived in the United States.
03:29:27.600
But just because they were single doesn't mean that they didn't have children or anything.
03:29:33.200
They probably, if they weren't married, they probably didn't have children in this time period.
03:29:41.280
No, I agree with you because during that time, obviously, yes, but does that mean they didn't have children at home?
03:29:46.860
But the children, let's assume the gender of the children of these men who had children out of wedlock, 50% were boys and 50% were girls.
03:30:00.660
Yeah, so what does that have to do with who's the victim?
03:30:03.660
These children are now growing up with no father.
03:30:08.700
I don't even understand your argument here because the child could be a boy or a girl.
03:30:14.780
The framework of the question is who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
03:30:20.060
So if it's a boy child, and if it's a female child, and this is equally distributed, then this doesn't help your argument that it's both.
03:30:36.300
He has one father, one mother, one boy, and one girl.
03:30:48.140
So I don't even know how to actually argue this.
03:30:53.880
I'm just going to, if Andrew, if you, I'm going to defer to you because I can't even.
03:30:57.760
I was just going to say, if the baby is the primary victim in an abortion, what is the deciding factor that makes the baby the primary victim and not the mother?
03:31:15.700
She was the one who gave the answer that she thought that the baby was the primary victim.
03:31:19.100
If that's the case, what is the deciding factor as to why the baby is the victim, the primary victim and not the mother?
03:31:24.660
I mean, I feel like I can't really answer this question because it's not really something I want to speak on, for one.
03:31:32.780
And two, I'm pro, like, people just make their choices.
03:31:37.140
Like, what I would do personally, I don't put on to what the next person could do.
03:31:42.020
So what I feel like would be wrong, I'm not going to judge somebody else.
03:31:50.800
Yeah, and so I'm not going to answer the question for that reason.
03:31:53.080
What I feel like my opinion is on the answer, I don't want to give it because it's a very political question.
03:32:01.440
You would agree that aborting at nine months would be, that would be bad, right?
03:32:14.340
So if the mother had the abortion, then who would be the primary victim?
03:32:27.920
So what would make the baby the primary victim?
03:32:31.640
I mean, you carried a baby full term to where it should be.
03:32:35.440
Would it be the death part that would make the baby the primary victim?
03:32:38.420
So it doesn't even need to be in your, you know?
03:32:41.240
So at that point, if you get an abortion, then sure.
03:32:44.080
But I don't really want to speak on abortion because, yeah, it's not my place, I don't think.
03:32:52.660
I think the point he was trying to get at is the baby's the primary victim because the baby's dying.
03:32:57.520
And so he was going to turn that over to men in war dying and saying that if you use that logic for abortion, it can be applied to this scenario.
03:33:06.200
It's like comparing apples and oranges, like war to abortion, like it's two different things.
03:33:12.820
You can compare things that are very different.
03:33:15.440
Yeah, there's no, there's never a comparison which is going to be exact.
03:33:19.300
What we're trying to just do is just test the logic for perceived victimhood.
03:33:23.540
So in this case, in war, I think I understand what you're saying.
03:33:26.300
You're saying that there's a bunch of external factors which could make women also victims in war, which would include things like emotional damage, trauma, psychological intergenerational trauma, which could happen because you lost grandpa when you were a kid.
03:33:41.760
All these different factors, which could possibly go into this.
03:33:46.660
But if we're looking, even though we have all these correlates for different factors of victimhood, I would still say there's primary correlates.
03:33:53.260
In this case, I would say the primary correlate is death.
03:33:56.440
And so I would ask that even in an abortion, I would assume that this type of trauma and stuff like this at nine months would also exist for women.
03:34:08.220
Yeah, I don't really want to speak on the abortion.
03:34:18.760
Nick, you know that Ukraine split screen that we have?
03:34:30.660
You guys are all familiar with the Ukraine conflict, correct?
03:34:34.820
Before I do that, ask her if a woman goes to war, who's the primary victim of war?
03:34:46.340
You said if your husband got his leg blown off and you had to go and you got, what's the word, whatever the war, and you had to fight, would he be the victim too?
03:34:55.540
I mean, I already stated that I think both are the victims.
03:34:59.540
So, there's a very recent conflict, the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
03:35:07.160
So, this one's an interesting one because it's much more recent.
03:35:15.620
So, Ukraine is kind of the perfect microcosm of the inconsistency inherent in feminism.
03:35:24.780
Women are the equals of men until the bombs start to drop.
03:35:30.220
Now, I'll ask you once more for everybody who said it's both.
03:35:35.620
In the Ukraine conflict, who's the primary victim of war, men or women, starting with you?
03:35:40.120
I am not familiar enough on this situation or educated enough on this situation to speak on it.
03:35:48.480
Well, but you were able to, for the previous question, you were able to say both.
03:35:53.980
But you are familiar that there is a war in Ukraine, correct?
03:36:13.540
Does your answer change at all when it comes to Ukraine?
03:36:16.300
Who's the primary victim of war with the Ukraine?
03:36:26.880
Let's assume that 5% of the military is female.
03:36:32.960
But aren't the citizens fighting the war as well, not just the military?
03:36:35.620
Aren't the citizens of Ukraine fighting the war, not just the military?
03:36:43.440
I mean, I think both regardless of if the woman is fighting or not, so...
03:36:48.340
No, civilians aren't really fighting in the war, no.
03:36:50.880
There are some incidences of that, but it's primarily the two military forces.
03:36:55.400
And civilians are doing what they usually do in war and supporting the military operations via support roles.
03:37:01.940
And I guess the primary victim would be whoever's the biggest, bigger statistic, which I don't know.
03:37:12.680
That's what he's trying to make his whole point this whole time.
03:37:15.400
I mean, it's overwhelmingly men who are dying in the war, for sure.
03:37:20.540
It's overwhelmingly men who are dying in every war.
03:37:22.900
It doesn't matter if it's that conflict or a different conflict.
03:37:41.800
You can't even compare two different types of pain.
03:37:44.340
Because if someone's staying at home, they're still going to be hurt and affected by the people that are fighting in the war.
03:37:48.360
Like, if my, like, say, son gets drafted, I'm going to feel the pain of that just as much as he might be feeling the physical pain.
03:37:58.160
Because you can't really compare physical and mental pain.
03:38:11.100
You guys are simply just not liking the answer.
03:38:13.140
No, because we're giving why we feel like it's both.
03:38:15.400
And we're saying it's not just a physical aspect.
03:38:20.080
And not just that, but it's a lot of other things that, you know, women have to pick the pieces up on in war.
03:38:26.140
And so that makes them less of a victim because they didn't die in it.
03:38:33.300
So I'll just kind of where I'm going here with the Ukraine.
03:38:43.480
I'll just give you guys an additional information and see if it changes your mind at all.
03:38:47.880
So at the breakout of the war, there was a decree by the Ukrainian government that required all military age men, in fact, even very old men.
03:38:58.740
So all men between the ages of 18, I believe to either 60 or 65, had to remain in the country.
03:39:07.640
They had to stay, whereas women and children could leave.
03:39:11.340
And in fact, a great many women, millions of women, fleed Ukraine.
03:39:16.480
They were not compelled to join the military or anything like that in the same way that men wore.
03:39:21.600
Knowing this additional information, this inequality, that the men had to stay, I think if they got caught, they could face punishment.
03:39:33.720
Knowing just this additional piece of information, does that change your answer at all?
03:39:44.200
I think, yeah, I guess that would make them more of a victim, but that makes them a victim of their own country and, you know, politics and physical...
03:39:52.720
Well, a victim of their own country, but their country's at war.
03:39:55.700
Yeah, because your country, of course, which it's...
03:39:56.920
And if the wartime policy, if the wartime policy is to allow every single woman in the country...
03:40:05.560
So there's a draft, and you have to go if they say you got to go.
03:40:12.420
Okay, does it change your answer at all, knowing this extra piece of information?
03:40:18.300
Like, men are more of the victim of physical pain because, like, even if it's vice versa, like, if the men were staying home.
03:40:23.500
Wait, do you think war is strictly physical injury?
03:40:40.600
Because if you go onto a war field versus stay at home, like, how are you...
03:40:43.600
Like, are you more likely to get, like, bombed?
03:40:47.000
Like, if you walk out into your minefield versus staying at home.
03:40:49.320
I guess where I'm confused here is you're saying, well, men on the physical realm are, they have it worse, but in the psychological, mental realm...
03:40:59.860
But so, I don't really understand, because you say both.
03:41:03.100
So, it's, if you say both, wouldn't you follow your argument up from, well, men on this hand have it worse, but women on this hand have it worse.
03:41:11.020
But I fail to see on which hand women have it worse when it comes to war.
03:41:22.460
If somebody stole $5 from you versus somebody stole your entire life savings, I don't know how much your life...
03:41:29.920
Maybe if it's $5, it doesn't matter, but which one would be worse?
03:41:37.420
Because of the magnitude in which someone has deprived you of your belongings, in this case, your money.
03:41:49.480
Well, if a woman gets trips and falls and get a boo-boo, you know, versus a man gets a shell impaled through his body...
03:42:02.620
But, like, his kids at home, like, it's just as bad like his kids...
03:42:07.700
But the kids at home are still going to, like, feel shit.
03:42:11.920
So, I guess, arguably, men would have it statistically worse.
03:42:22.460
But I guess my point is that the people at home are still going to feel that, too.
03:42:28.440
I mean, it sounds like you're coming from a physical standpoint.
03:42:35.340
I mean, arguably, because they experience both mental pain and physical pain, I would say, statistically, yeah.
03:42:45.040
But I'm not taking away from those who are suffering back at home as well.
03:42:50.060
Nobody ever denied that the women aren't victims of war.
03:42:57.140
But, thank you, Abigail, the original question was, who is the primary?
03:43:06.700
It's situational if, like, if the man got killed and then the son...
03:43:09.480
Like, let's say a woman had a son and then he, like, went in a spiral and died, too.
03:43:15.840
If she has a son, wouldn't men still be the primary victim?
03:43:41.160
Also, I would like to say, so, yes, you have a whole family that's losing their father as
03:43:46.580
he goes off to war, but you have the father that's losing his whole family as he goes off
03:43:59.720
Nick, can you pull up that photo of Ukraine, then we'll move it on.
03:44:02.280
When you said the whole statement about $5 versus life savings, were you comparing life
03:44:18.100
Obviously, death is worse than losing your life savings.
03:44:21.260
But what I'm asking is when you did that analogy, is it worse to lose $5 or is it worse to lose
03:44:34.420
Obviously not compare, but was your analogy with life savings, you know, were you trying
03:44:41.980
When you brought up that analogy, what was your point?
03:44:47.720
I was trying to, I guess, differentiate by degrees of harm, degrees of hurt.
03:44:53.400
So, for example, if somebody stole $5 from me, I'd be upset for like 30 seconds.
03:45:00.320
If I went and saw my bank, you know, looked at my bank statements and saw that all my
03:45:04.820
money had been drained, the degree of like anxiety response I would have, the degree
03:45:09.840
And assuming it's like unretrievable, like it's gone, I've lost my money.
03:45:15.980
There's legitimate concerns over can I afford rent?
03:45:24.840
What was the comparison to the, you know, men in war?
03:45:33.400
The men in the war were the life savings because the men in the war are getting more deprived
03:45:38.580
So, like an order of operations to scalability.
03:45:41.580
If I steal a penny from you, it's going to affect you less than if I steal five bucks from
03:45:44.840
you, it's going to affect you less than if I steal a hundred, it's going to affect
03:45:47.260
you less than if I steal a thousand, et cetera, et cetera.
03:45:50.460
So, on a scale of, you know, how much you've been victimized, he would say if somebody stole
03:45:55.820
five bucks from you, it would victimize you less than if they stole your entire life savings.
03:45:59.760
So, he's saying the ultimate thing here, though, is your life.
03:46:05.500
So, meaning that the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
03:46:10.000
Meaning the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
03:46:13.180
Meaning the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
03:46:16.240
So, in that situation, I think the other person is a bigger victim.
03:46:26.040
He experienced death, which obviously is horrible.
03:46:38.060
So, that's why I'm saying this question is situational, because...
03:46:41.120
So, then, by this logic, then, you think it's better to be dead than be alive with trauma?
03:47:09.220
Like, I don't know why you can't understand that it's situational.
03:47:12.740
But what I'm saying to you is that it's beyond obvious to me that people would much rather
03:47:23.480
No, no, it's not because a lot of people kill themselves every year.
03:47:30.620
Actually, a lot of people pass away from self-inflicted injuries because of the trauma they've been through.
03:47:35.860
A lot of people kill themselves, especially when a lot of people died of suicide.
03:47:38.980
A whole lot more people live with trauma than unalive themselves from trauma.
03:47:42.280
But a lot still unalive themselves because of that.
03:47:44.820
But, like, what statistic, like, can you pull that out of and say, like, yeah, these people
03:47:50.760
So, therefore, can you just, like, say that it's situational?
03:47:53.300
Okay, I'm just saying, so, well, let's just see if we can agree if it's obvious or not.
03:47:57.060
Well, because you guys are being very statistical, so...
03:47:57.460
How many women as a percentage, as a percentage, do you think live with significant trauma?
03:48:07.900
Do you think that women are unaliving themselves at a rate of 20%?
03:48:16.000
You don't know if women are unalive themselves at a rate of 20%?
03:48:18.580
People want to kill themselves every year goes up?
03:48:21.620
Which means people are dealing with a lot of trauma and they don't want to live with it.
03:48:24.300
If you lost 20% of a population in a war, it would be the biggest bloodbath known to
03:48:37.400
There's no way, it should be completely obvious to you, that there's no fucking way 20%
03:48:53.880
We didn't know what you meant by the whole time.
03:48:55.460
It was very high in America and I know every year.
03:48:59.540
You talk more than you listen and yet I've been sitting here listening, not talking.
03:49:04.100
So the thing is, what I asked specifically was this question.
03:49:07.740
Do you think that more women unalive themselves due to trauma or live with the trauma?
03:49:17.380
Well, if that's the case, do you think that at least more than 20% of women experience
03:49:31.200
No, because I don't feel like what you're saying is like real statistics.
03:49:33.800
You're just throwing numbers out and saying, 20% of women who experience high trauma, are
03:49:56.660
If you have 30 women who are experiencing severe trauma, do you think 15 of them are going
03:50:07.920
Whatever you look up is going to be like too big of a statistic anyway.
03:50:10.820
Like I don't really, I don't think it matters if it's like 5% or 20%.
03:50:19.260
So no matter, it doesn't even matter that it's like 20%.
03:50:26.420
The point of the question is to make the determination as to whether people would rather, if it's
03:50:30.520
obvious that people would rather live with trauma rather than not, it seems that that
03:50:34.740
would be self-obvious to everybody in existence considering that most people, the overwhelming
03:50:39.840
majority, the vast, vast majority of all of humanity does not unalive themselves, even
03:50:45.840
though many, many, many of them experience massive trauma.
03:50:55.520
Yeah, they could be suffering, but if they're making the choice not to unalive themselves,
03:50:58.980
then it seems that they consider that to be the superior position.
03:51:09.340
I think there's a statement that it's better to live with trauma than die, or that it's
03:51:23.120
Now what one person might consider serious is very opinion.
03:51:25.140
I think just because somebody chooses to stay alive throughout their trauma doesn't mean
03:51:33.700
Stress, trauma, like very high levels of stress and trauma and are very not well in their head,
03:51:43.280
How many of these people are unaliving themselves?
03:51:50.060
I'm not saying 50%, but maybe 3, 4, 5 to 10% might be, and that's still.
03:51:57.220
Let me just ask this in the most basic way possible.
03:52:04.320
Let me just ask this in a way all of you would just intuitively kind of understand.
03:52:07.560
Do you think if you went to most people, most people, men and women, and you ask them this
03:52:13.880
question, if you push button A, you're going to have experienced serious trauma, and if
03:52:32.120
Do you want to get shot or do you want to get raped?
03:52:39.240
Would you rather die or would you rather be raped?
03:52:58.720
The question is, button A, you experience significant trauma.
03:53:05.020
A lightning bolt shoots out of the sky and you die.
03:53:10.740
Do you think most people would choose button A or button B?
03:53:14.540
I think people would choose the trauma, but I think would they regret that?
03:53:21.880
Because after you have dealt with the trauma, now I'm living with this crazy, wild shit.
03:53:29.500
You might at that point decide it was I should have chose to just die.
03:53:41.140
Like I said, if it's like, okay, what's the choice?
03:53:50.480
Why does it always seem to me they put the dumbest and retarded girls at the end of the table?
03:53:55.960
So, the trauma could be, you know, okay, you've dealt with, I don't know, like a little bit of whatever the fuck.
03:54:03.080
Like, being made fun of in second grade, right?
03:54:08.560
If the trauma is emotional trauma, I'd press the trauma button.
03:54:12.700
If it's medical trauma, I'm pressing the death button.
03:54:18.500
Because, I mean, everyone, you know, everyone's trauma is valid.
03:54:21.520
But, like, I mean, if I were to have these two buttons in front of my face, I don't know.
03:54:27.660
I mean, I don't know what would happen after death.
03:54:31.360
What medical trauma do you experience if your husband dies at war?
03:54:36.140
Yeah, what medical trauma are you experiencing?
03:54:44.600
So, the thing is, is that when we're talking about trauma here in this context,
03:54:51.680
Would you rather push, do you think most people would choose button A or button B?
03:54:55.580
Do you think intuitively most people would push button A or button B?
03:55:03.840
Then that should give you some self-obvious, some self-apparent evidence
03:55:07.700
that the death portion for most people is the non-preferable option.
03:55:16.720
If intuitively you think almost everybody would choose the button to not die,
03:55:22.420
then it seems self-obvious that people would rather be traumatized than dead.
03:55:33.460
Like, back in, like, Nazi Germany or Jewish, and you had the option before...
03:55:45.120
So, you could go through all this trauma, right?
03:55:47.780
You could go get sent to an extermination, can't be severely abused.
03:55:52.480
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
03:56:05.880
The terms of service for the platform we're on, they mind the analogy.
03:56:09.820
Had you guys been on time today, we would have been able to have gone through the entire pre-show
03:56:16.220
and have given you the instructions about what to avoid.
03:56:22.480
Let's say you leave here tonight and you get in a terrible car accident
03:56:24.980
and you wake up in the hospital and you've broken legs,
03:56:27.600
you have severe damage, you know, medical to your body and it's psychological.
03:56:31.680
Are you going to say, I wish I would have died?
03:56:33.940
I mean, I feel like that's not extra traumatic,
03:56:38.200
like that's traumatic, but it's not like to the extreme of what somebody could deal with in trauma.
03:56:45.000
So, like going and getting in a car accident is trauma, yes, but that doesn't mean...
03:56:49.480
Yeah, you lost a loved one in war. That's your trauma.
03:56:51.160
Both your legs are amputated from this accident, but you're still grateful to be alive.
03:56:55.020
Go here. Go here. Let's just make it even simpler.
03:56:58.200
Button A is you experience all of the trauma a person would experience losing a loved one in war
03:57:05.260
Which button do you think most people would push? Button A or button B?
03:57:11.260
Most people. I'm just asking for most people, which button do you think most people would push?
03:57:16.320
I just don't think that's something you can ask.
03:57:20.320
Rate of major depression, matter of emotional trauma in US femme is 26% per 100k.
03:57:31.700
Most people rather live with severe adversity than death.
03:57:50.980
Ten plus years interviewing thousands of women.
03:57:54.300
To reach the same conclusion as the most intelligent, respected theologians, philosophers, etc.
03:58:12.200
Why can't you understand that there's layers to things and that people are different and it can't just be one or the other?
03:58:26.580
Okay, so then why are you trying to argue that with us?
03:58:32.540
So I can grant this to you and say every single human being is different with different preferences.
03:58:38.400
Everything from whether or not they like pineapple on pizza or pepperoni, right?
03:58:44.640
However, there seems to be shared intuitions that most people have that you would agree that we have, right?
03:58:52.940
So here's a good example of a shared intuition.
03:58:57.120
Taking people's shit that they don't want you to take, they don't like that.
03:59:01.420
That seems to be a shared intuition all over the world.
03:59:04.460
For instance, is there anybody at this table who prefers that people take their stuff away from them?
03:59:14.680
Seems like that's a shared intuition, even though all of you have totally different preferences about all sorts of things.
03:59:21.040
So if there's that shared intuition, why shouldn't I think that there could be other shared intuitions like trauma, people wanting to live with trauma rather than death, which could be self-obvious just based on the fact that you think most people would push button A or button B.
03:59:36.120
That seems like now we're getting into, well, we share some sort of intuition here, right?
04:00:00.120
Obviously, people don't want their shit taken, right?
04:00:12.580
Dude, can we establish right now that nobody in the room with you is the same as you?
04:00:16.380
But that's so much different than somebody saying that they'd rather live with trauma.
04:00:36.800
And so back to this just real quick, you agree that everybody in this room is totally different
04:00:42.200
from each other right down to their preferences.
04:00:43.920
Even the way that you just took a drink of that drink that you have, water, whatever it
04:00:47.740
is, is going to be different than how the gal next to you drinks that cup of water.
04:00:51.460
We're going to agree it's totally layered and nuanced all the way down.
04:00:55.940
But that doesn't mean that we don't share some intuitions which make us human beings.
04:01:00.380
And a seeming intuition I can point to right now is you don't want your stuff taken from
04:01:09.060
Wouldn't you agree that almost nobody in the whole world wants you to take their stuff
04:01:18.620
So what's wrong with this analogy of a shared intuition that people would rather be alive
04:01:24.980
Well, you're saying it seems like, and you're asking for facts from us, but you're not giving
04:01:32.740
I'm just asking you, what does your intuition say most people would do in this situation?
04:01:39.480
I think it's situational, and I think it depends on the person.
04:01:48.900
Button B, your stuff is not taken away from you.
04:01:50.780
I would prefer my shit to not be taken away from me.
04:01:53.920
Right, so intuitively, everything which you have observed around you your entire life
04:01:59.200
informs you intuitively that that's what they would push, but you didn't need any data.
04:02:12.980
You didn't need a single shred of data to come to that intuitively.
04:02:19.120
That I said I would prefer my shit not to be taken?
04:02:22.040
You think that you would prefer, you think everybody would push the button for the most part that
04:02:30.380
Yeah, I think most people don't want their shit taken.
04:02:32.900
So you can arrive to these intuitive conclusions absent any data at all just based on observation.
04:02:42.220
Hey, when he's talking and you talk, he can't hear you.
04:02:44.140
But my intuitive conclusion about your question whether people would rather live with trauma
04:02:54.580
You asked me my intuitive conclusion about if I'd want my shit taken or not.
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I'm saying personally I'd rather not have my shit taken.
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Yeah, so I can agree with you that you may not know the answer precisely.
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You might say, well, I'm not sure this or that.
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But then when I kind of counter with, then why aren't people who experience severe trauma
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unaliving themselves at this kind of massive rate?
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You would think that if the preference was the other direction that they would be doing
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I get what you're saying, but I'm also not saying that the suffering is equal to the counter
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I feel like for certain people, the suffering is equal to death.
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Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the argument, though.
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You're asking me about my shit being taken or it not being taken.
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I feel like most people would rather not have my shit taken.
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You're saying that most people, you think most people would prefer not to have their
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I think most people would rather not have their shit taken.
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But for this other argument, I'm saying I don't know.
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You cannot come to an intuitive conclusion that you think most people would prefer death
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I just want to make sure we got that on record.
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I'm not going to give you the answer that you want.
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Then you're not sure that most people wouldn't choose death.
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I'm not going to give you the answer that you want, Andrew.
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I'm not going to give you the answer that you want.
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You can just sit there and be quiet while I explain it.
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So the thing is, thing is, is that here's your logical extension so that you understand
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But you're still going to hear me because you have to, right?
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The logical extension of you saying it depends on the person.
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When I ask you, what do you think most people would do?
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Which means the logical entailment of that is you don't know if most people would choose
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And it literally roots back to all of us saying both men and women.
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I think, I think I made the final point already.
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So last thing on that thing, I have some more questions here.
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I did actually really quickly, I'll just show you the Ukraine thing, then we'll move on from
04:05:50.620
So on the left here, you have Ukrainian women who are screenshotted on dating apps when they
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were able to flee to Stockholm and the United Kingdom and Barcelona and Lisbon.
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Um, where's, is that, Lisbon is in, is that Portugal or Spain?
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Anyways, women, Ukrainian women were found on Tinder trying to go to the club, trying to,
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you know, get their hot girl summer on, whatever.
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Ukrainian women on dating apps and Tinder trying to get dicked down by foreign men.
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But on the right, you have dead Ukrainian men and soldiers.
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If that picture is a manifestation of not just the Ukrainian conflict, the Ukraine conflict,
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but all wars throughout history, perhaps excluding the Tinder, do any of you, do any of you, do
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any of you who said both change your mind seeing that image?
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I mean, how about the women that are like actually suffering, not the women that you just put
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So then stop talking about just women who are on Tinder.
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There are women who are suffering and then there's women who are on Tinder.
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I think the point is the women are alive and still living their lives.
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But not every woman who is alive and dealing with the suffering due to their husband or
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Every, here, let me, hold on, hold on, I'll just engage with you on this.
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But if you're Ukrainian men, there's zero Ukrainian men that are on Tinder in Stockholm, in Oslo.
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You don't think there's any Ukrainian men in Tinder, in any of those places?
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And think about the older men too that aren't fighting the war.
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Are you trying to argue that there's just as many men?
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Do you recall when I said no, men could not leave the country?
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So, it's actually plausible, yes, no, from the age of 18 to 60 or 65, men could legally
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If you did, you would be imprisoned, you'd be punished, they beat a lot of the men who
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If you see videos of these men trying to cross the border, the Ukrainian military police will
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It actually would be fair for me to say that there's a good point.
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At least, you know, I don't know how things have changed.
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I still think men can't even leave the country.
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This is now, we're what, two, three years into this conflict.
04:08:53.320
I think it actually would be fair of me to say that there are no men in Stockholm, no Ukrainian
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men in Stockholm, just partying it up, swiping on girls, fucking hot Swedish chicks.
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That weren't in the country when it went to war.
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Do you doubt my assertion that men between the ages of 18 to 60 were precluded, were not
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Tell me the news organization, which you respect, and I'll gladly pull it up.
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I honestly do not know what this has to do with Tinder.
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All I'm saying is that I'm sure there's men who are on Tinder in Ukraine.
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I think there's Ukrainian men on Tinder, but they probably weren't, they probably weren't
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They probably are maybe half citizens of other countries.
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But, but to the statistic that was there, sure, they are the primary victims, if that's
04:10:04.100
That's not, that's not the argument I'm trying to make at all.
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But, but do you think, you think that the Ukrainian men, um, don't feel like their women
04:10:12.060
that are, that are fighting this war in Ukraine, you don't think that they feel like their women,
04:10:16.420
their daughters and their grandmothers are not suffering?
04:10:23.700
Could you tell us the argument you're trying to make?
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So what does this have to do with these specific men being on Tinder?
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But they're not victims because they're on Tinder.
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Even though they might be on Tinder and doing the crazy shit they're doing.
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They're victims, but they're not the primary victims.
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Because they have the privilege to be on Tinder and not in war.
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Like, why did you get pictures of, like, random pictures of girls on Tinder and compare them to dead bodies?
04:11:17.020
That is the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard in my life.
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Because they're on Tinder, I guess that means everything's good, right?
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Why don't you just steel man my position instead of straw manning my position?
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Well, I'm just saying, like, I'm confused by the picture.
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When somebody says, like, steel man my position, it just means, can you repeat my argument back to me?
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Random pictures of girls on Tinder to dead bodies.
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Are you aware that there's currently a massive military conflict in Ukraine?
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And are you aware that, I've already stated this, men between the ages of 18 to 60 or 65
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And a lot of those men were drafted into the war.
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Whereas, if a woman was so inclined, she could freely leave, she could cross the border, and
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then she could end up in Stockholm, Oslo, Lisbon, whatever fucking really nice.
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Like, that's why I'm wondering why you're not comparing them.
04:12:45.180
If I told you that, like, zero men between that, those age range, between that age range
04:12:50.660
of 18 to 60 or 65 left the country, and millions of Ukrainian women in that age range left the
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I've tried to explain it multiple times, but go ahead.
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Why did you put pictures of, like, girls, like, in provocative poses next to pictures
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I'm just like, why would you, like, hunt down girls with pictures?
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Men who died in war to pictures of girls grabbing their asses on a Tinder profile.
04:13:46.880
To put women's seconds to men as victims of war.
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I'm just confused on why you're attacking me for asking a question.
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Why are you, like, getting mad at me asking a question?
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I mean, you could get pictures of, like, women, like, in Ukraine.
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You could literally get them at their house, and, like, you went to Tinder.
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The reason that he showed that picture is because it illustrates.
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It illustrates that women have the freedom to be able to be on Tinder.
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They can't get pictures of them in their houses.
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Brian, do you have any numbers on human trafficking and blank?
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This is not to take away from men suffering, which we do not have accurate numbers.
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Because what about all the trauma that the men who are in their families have to experience by those women being trafficked?
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I feel like it's very sad, especially to Ukrainians at this moment, to compare who's a bigger victim and are women.
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And I feel like it's very sad to say women are secondary victims, second victims under men, victims of war in any situation.
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And y'all have been suppressing all types of people.
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I think it's absolutely despicable that you guys, you know, here's the epic female empathy, that you guys are unable to acknowledge a singular realm in which men suffer more than women.
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I bet every single one of you would say that in this specific category, women suffer more.
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When it comes to SA, who suffers more, men or women?
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More men are in war and more women get sexually assaulted.
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I think war is a different subject than sexual assault.
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But I'm just saying there's like different types of trauma.
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Is it worse to abort the child or to abandon it on a stranger's doorstep?
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Child is alive, but the gamble on the future life of the child would be of concern.
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And I think we did kind of talk about that a little bit already.
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Is it worse to abort the child or to abandon it on a stranger's doorstep?
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Maddie Ice, people have family members that die every single day.
04:17:14.660
Yeah, people go through traumatic things every single day.
04:17:17.420
Death is something that we're all going to experience, whether it's a family member or our own, you know, our own thing eventually,
04:17:23.740
either through illness, old age, et cetera, et cetera.
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Who's the primary victim of rape, the woman being essayed, or the support system that has to pick up the pieces?
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Can you sit down while the person is in the bathroom?
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Who's the primary victim of rape, the woman being essayed, or the support system that has to pick up the pieces?
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Brian, do you have any numbers on human trafficking and essay?
04:19:13.560
The amount of suffering on the Eastern Front is a terrible suffering during World War II.
04:19:20.640
There were a few women military casualties, but the overwhelming amount of casualties were
04:19:27.040
men, at least in the military component, and then I believe the civilian component,
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you know, it's pretty comparable between men and women.
04:19:36.320
So, yeah, more men in total died during World War II than women, and more men were injured
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Why does the government send men out to war and not women?
04:19:50.640
I think we've got a problem with the government.
04:19:53.200
Brian and Andrew, you proved tonight that the majority of women lack any type of logic.
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And then we have this one, and then Nick, if you could get those yellows.
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Brian, men from Ukraine have fled and are partying.
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You are wrong, thinking all stayed, and that Ukraine men aren't partying or on Tinder.
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Well, okay, if I can grant you that, yes, some men were probably able to cross the border.
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That doesn't change the fact that all men were barred legally from, like, for example, I think my understanding of United States law when it comes to the border, it's technically illegal to cross into the United States.
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For example, being in possession of certain drugs is a crime.
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So the reality is, while some men were able to escape, the vast majority haven't.
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And if they did escape, they had to go through much more extreme means of attempting to escape as compared to women who could literally cross the border without any harassment or any sort of potential reprisals.
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Whereas a guy, if you get caught trying to leave, you're fucked.
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So they're, yes, some men were able to flee, of course.
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But, and then A, B, check, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships, man.
04:21:29.360
Nick, if you can hide all those that we went through.
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I feel like, I don't know, what's, like, the definition of racism?
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It's, like, making somebody feel, like, less than you or something.
04:22:24.560
Yeah, but it's, like, it's, like, a deep, isn't there, like, a deeper, I don't know.
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I can't really even speak, because I, isn't there, like, a thing, like, systematic, I don't
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You tell us, remember, you're way more educated than we are.
04:22:45.660
You know what, I'm sure you know what racist means.
04:22:54.420
You're discriminated against based solely on your skin color.
04:23:10.020
Yeah, but I'm white, so, I mean, isn't that because I'm a minority?
04:23:16.040
I'm saying, in general, can people be racist towards black people?
04:23:20.800
I mean, they're minorities, so isn't that, like, I don't know.
04:23:33.720
Can black people be racist towards white people?
04:23:38.020
Can Asian people be racist towards white people?
04:23:47.860
Can any other race besides white be racist towards white people?
04:23:51.260
I mean, it just, I feel like the, to my friends that are, you know, not white,
04:23:58.480
they've explained this to me before, and I'm not the best one to explain it, so I'm not going to.
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Or are you just kind of saying yes, just to say yes?
04:24:24.520
So, you can't be racist towards white people, though?
04:24:35.900
Just going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist related to dating, you know?
04:24:56.600
Okay, I'll wait until she's back at the table to ask her the question.
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I wouldn't say, like, an extreme feminist, but, yeah, I guess I'm a feminist.
04:25:19.820
So, those of you who said yes, you're a feminist.
04:25:25.680
Like, not an extreme one, but definitely a feminist.
04:25:38.220
I've seen good patriarchies, and then I've seen, like, some of their...
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I'm sorry to cut in, but I don't actually understand...
04:26:04.540
Now, I don't know your name, gal, who's sitting, from my perspective, would be to the right
04:26:12.140
side of the table, second one over, who has been kind of verbally sparring with everyone
04:26:23.840
I don't understand why, when Brian said, just please answer the question, you went,
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He's going around the table, and he wants to get everybody's actual answer.
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If somebody goes on a diatribe right then, how could he get everybody included in the
04:26:48.920
I really don't care about answering your stupid questions anymore.
04:26:58.040
Let me ask you just a few more questions, if you don't mind.
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I just, like, really don't have the energy to keep going back and forth with you, because you
04:27:18.640
want a specific answer, and I'm not going to give it, and you're going to keep
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prying and prying until you get that answer, and I'm not going to give it to you.
04:27:28.240
I just don't feel like arguing with you anymore, like, plain and simple.
04:27:31.780
You're not somebody I'm obligated to argue with.
04:27:35.760
If you want to rage quit, it's totally up to you.
04:28:02.040
So, well, I'm asking you some more questions, so.
04:28:40.720
Yeah, so, um, so just, uh, very briefly, to go over the question, um, the, the reason
04:28:48.000
that this is being asked is in, in, we've heard this a lot on the show, between men
04:28:52.680
and women dynamics, obviously there's many men who prefer not to end up in relationships
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And so this is why it's being asked if you consider yourself to be a feminist, and that's
04:29:06.600
how it's tied back into, um, kind of the dating talk, so that we can figure out where
04:29:12.360
It makes a lot of sense to me, as, uh, politics in the United States is highly polarizing,
04:29:18.160
So, um, so this is, this is why it's, uh, it's asked, and why it is, he just wants to
04:29:23.460
get everybody's answer on record before we start to kind of press in where your feminist
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beliefs come from, why you think that way, and how that applies to when you're dating.
04:29:32.100
Um, so, going around the table, let me give a different definition of feminism and see
04:29:38.580
I think that the most charitable definition of feminism I can give is a rejection of patriarchal
04:29:44.160
systems, uh, in lieu of egalitarianism, meaning equality between the two sexes.
04:29:50.540
By that definition, would you guys consider yourself feminists going around the table?
04:29:57.180
We'll start, we'll start with you, um, gal with the red bangs.
04:30:05.660
Sorry, I didn't, I was here late, so I don't know anybody's names, so if I just call you
04:30:09.680
out by your clothing, please don't get mad at me, right?
04:30:12.260
That's it, that's basically the only thing I can do.
04:30:17.080
I've been up for like 24 hours, and my brain is just...
04:30:21.600
Yeah, so, uh, if, if the definition of feminism was a rejection of patriarchal systems,
04:30:26.660
for the movement of equality between the two sexes, men and women, would you consider
04:30:36.540
Nope, that's not, that's not actually what's being asked.
04:30:39.940
Um, so, if the definition of feminism is the movement towards the equality of the two
04:30:47.260
sexes, men and women, and a rejection of patriarchal systems, meaning men in charge of shit, would
04:31:02.040
It depends, for me, it really depends on what type of men I've seen, because obviously every
04:31:07.060
man's different, every patriarchal system that I've encountered in life, like, some men
04:31:11.000
run it good, real good, and they're, they're cool and everything, so I would be down with
04:31:14.880
a cool man running stuff, but I've had, seen some weird dudes running stuff too, and then
04:31:19.900
I literally am like, oh my gosh, thank God that I have my own rights, because going under
04:31:24.000
this guy would be like 11, hell, like, you know, like, so, so, if it's a good dude, then
04:31:29.760
I'm cool with it, but if it's a dude that I don't, like, that's a really weird dude,
04:31:34.360
then no, so, so I'm, I'm, I could flip, it just depends on if I'm comfortable with men.
04:31:41.360
Okay, so, so to, to kind of engage with what you're saying, we'll say, systems where men
04:31:47.180
are in charge and have traditionally been in charge, they are going to stay in charge
04:31:53.960
Yes, but, but, but if, question, would this be related to that, so, if it was a patriarchy
04:32:02.780
society where, like, women, like, they're like, oh, women can't work, it's like, does
04:32:07.960
that keep vulnerable populations vulnerable in a sense where, like, what if, like, the
04:32:12.020
I mean, we, we can, we can kind of get into that, but just to get it on record, if that
04:32:16.680
was the definition of feminism, charitable definition, would you then call yourself a feminist?
04:32:22.080
If a, a good man running shit and following him, or a bad man running shit and following
04:32:27.460
Just a rejection of patriarchal systems for the movement of egalitarianism, meaning
04:32:33.460
Hmm, I mean, I guess I could reject it, but if I see a good one, then I'll, then I'll go
04:32:38.960
for it, you know, I'd be like, okay, cool, like, it, I just have to know if the dude's
04:32:43.320
Okay, okay, so going to the, to the next person at the table.
04:32:51.320
Um, so by the first definition, so you're saying a re, a rejection of patriarchal.
04:32:59.700
And a movement towards equality between the sexes.
04:33:01.700
I mean, I think they should be the same, so, no, I mean, equal.
04:33:19.700
Yeah, so you wouldn't, you wouldn't want to see rejection of patriarchal systems for movement
04:33:44.520
Yeah, we have a certain role and it's not to be in charge.
04:33:47.440
It's not to be equal and it's not to be, you know, independent technically.
04:33:58.380
Well, I understand money is your God, but my God is.
04:34:11.460
It's talking about people worshiping the creature rather than the creator.
04:34:22.020
I mean, I don't believe the creator has a name.
04:34:27.800
You guys don't want to get into what I believe.
04:34:32.960
Because I believe in like the Bible, but I also believe in like all them other books
04:34:36.020
that like were outside the Bible, like the book of Enoch and all that stuff I think
04:34:45.780
Well, the book of Enoch is not a forbidden book.
04:34:48.400
It just was not, it wasn't put into, it wasn't put into the canon for a reason.
04:34:53.740
But I mean, all the book of Enoch is, is basically an extrapolation from, you know,
04:35:02.200
It gets into fallen angels, all that type of stuff.
04:35:04.600
So then what my God is and what her God is, is going to be two different gods.
04:35:09.680
Well, do you, do you have a reason why you think that that should be canonical?
04:35:17.320
Well, people put the Bible together and left that book out.
04:35:24.440
I think they did it because they don't want us to know the truth.
04:35:28.900
I think that's what religion was really made for.
04:35:32.600
I mean, this was, this was a very public debate.
04:35:39.860
I'm saying at the time when they were putting, when they were putting these books together
04:35:44.380
to make the Bible, that it was publicly debated which books are going in and which ones aren't.
04:35:50.000
And the way that they're able to verify this is they're looking at, is this a third party source
04:35:55.040
or is this something that actually came, you know, from the apostles themselves?
04:36:00.760
There was good reasons why they kept many books out.
04:36:04.500
Yeah, I'm not really going to dive too deep into things because, you know, I'm not, I'm not even going to get into it actually.
04:36:12.600
Well, I mean, I feel like religion was created for comfort.
04:36:14.140
Well, I was just curious about your beliefs on this creator of yours, that's all.
04:36:22.320
I just think that, like, you know, I'm not, I can't, I don't want to speak too, too much on it just because I don't want to.
04:36:28.920
But I think that the Bible and the stories in the Bible were translated.
04:36:36.340
Also, a lot of the kings and stuff made them a lot of these things, different, false, yeah, to have power among people.
04:36:45.900
So you don't, you don't believe in the same God because God, we believe he is who he says he is, which says that the eternal scriptures have not been tampered and that they are true.
04:37:01.780
And when we were talking about gender roles specifically, you were like, you guys are religious.
04:37:07.140
We believe that because we believe in the Bible.
04:37:08.780
But didn't you just say you also believe in the Bible?
04:37:13.180
Well, some stories in the Bible aren't meant to be, like, word for word.
04:37:17.720
I mean, I do believe in the Bible, but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by kings and all types of people.
04:37:23.320
So you don't believe God is who he says he is in the Bible?
04:37:29.100
There's tons of Bibles which have been manipulated by kings.
04:37:36.460
I just, I'm not sure that that gives you much information about your creator.
04:37:45.240
I believe, like, certain things, like, a lot of the stories are correct, but I also believe that it's been manipulated.
04:37:51.660
I think there's a lot of truth missing out of the Bible that you can find.
04:37:54.620
So you get to pick and choose what is and isn't?
04:37:56.900
I'm not sitting up here saying I'm a Christian.
04:37:59.360
So I don't believe, like, you have to pick and choose.
04:38:02.180
I don't believe, I think you can pick and choose.
04:38:10.520
And I mean, either way, like, there's stories in the Bible that aren't.
04:38:12.820
Andrew, thoughts on the religious conversation.
04:38:17.420
Did you agree that you believe that some of the Bible has been manipulated?
04:38:23.560
And that it's not, that God didn't have sovereign control over that?
04:38:26.620
Yeah, I believe that Protestant churches constantly have manipulated the Bible.
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Everything to the feminist Bible, which they wrote, the brand new Bible, which was a feminist
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version, to several Protestant churches making their own scripture.
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Like, for instance, I would consider Mormons to be Protestants.
04:38:45.520
I would consider Jehovah's Witnesses to be Protestants.
04:38:47.640
I would consider those to be extra canons, which they added, which they're not allowed
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So, yeah, there's been tons and tons of modification when it comes from Protestants.
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I mean, my opinion, I believe God has sovereign control over everything.
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I mean, God allowed it to be taken out for a reason, and he knows better than you and I.
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The original church put the Bible together, right?
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And we're still using that same Bible to this day.
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I don't know what Bible you're using, but it's not the Bible I'm using.
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Yeah, well, no, I'd have to go upstairs to get it.
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It's going to have things in it that yours clearly doesn't, right?
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But you just got done saying something different that's never been modified.
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I'm saying, do you think that God didn't have sovereign control ultimately over his word?
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You're reading something that's not complete, that was not the original Bible which was put
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But how do you know I haven't read Apocrypha's?
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Yeah, why isn't it in the Bible, in your Bible?
04:40:32.260
Because I believe that God allowed it to be taken out, that people didn't need it.
04:40:35.760
Oh, okay, well, Joseph Smith believed the same thing.
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But it just has nothing to do with our salvation, and I think a lot of people fall to idolatry.
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But talking about whether or not it has to do with salvation would be the same argument
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The question is, how can you make the claim that you're not reading a modified Bible when
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you're reading a modified Bible and you know you're reading a modified Bible?
04:41:17.640
They all have translations based on, you know, the language and stuff like that.
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But I just, I, like I said, I believe that it reflects God's word, and I do think God
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Well, then, okay, so, so, so then if that's true, God also has control over this Bible that
04:41:37.760
And if this Bible that I'm reading is different than the Bible that you're reading, are you
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saying that the God that I'm worshiping is different than the God that you're worshiping?
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Or did he give me a different Bible for some reason?
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There's only, there can only be, there's only going to be one Bible, right?
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You guys, if you guys look into the camera, right, this is what, look, I know it's annoying
04:42:14.100
for me to go, Matt, about this and interrupt this conversation.
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What you guys end up often doing is blocking your entire faces with the microphone.
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You can see chin, mouth, speaking into the microphone.
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Yeah, so anyway, so I'm just, I'm just saying to you that when she, when she claims that
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there's all sorts of modifications which have happened to the Bible from Protestant sex,
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I, I don't see how she's wrong because that, I mean, that's true.
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What I was arguing was she was saying that men manipulated it to, to use it for their own
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You don't believe that any men have manipulated the messaging in the Bible for the purposes
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I mean, maybe they've taken the context and the terms and twisted it to their own use,
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but no, I really do believe that the Bible is, you know, God breathed.
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Let's, let's see if we can untangle this mess real quick.
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Uh, do you believe in prosperity doctrine, prosperity gospel?
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How are men not using the Bible and twisting it?
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I'm saying that the scriptures were not taken like written scripture, then taken, twisted,
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twisting God's words, like in the Bible to hand to more people to be misunderstood.
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I believe if you got dropped off on an island with a Bible, you can find salvation and Jesus
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I mean, so you're saying absent a Bible, absent a Bible, if you're dropped on an island,
04:44:13.020
you would be able to come to Jesus Christ, right?
04:44:16.020
Well, I said with a Bible, but without a Bible, yeah, God is manifest within you.
04:44:23.920
Well, if you're lucky enough to have one, then yeah, I know.
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Can you, can you each make your final statements on this?
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I just want to know why do you need one at all?
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If you're just going to come to the truth anyway.
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I think that that's not what we were talking about.
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Why do you even need it at all if you're just going to come to the truth anyway?
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The moral law is written on their hearts, and God tells us so.
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I'm just saying you don't need the Bible to know that God is real.
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It tells us that in the book of Romans, chapter 1.
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If you want to get to know God's nature and character and to get closer to him,
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because if you love God, why would you not want to get to know him through his word
04:45:32.400
I didn't hear what you said, so I was just asking.
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Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there.
04:45:53.560
I'm kind of drunk, so I disregard my previous Ukraine comments.
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Isn't the Orthodox Study Bible based off the NKJV?
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Ko, thank you for the soup chat, but, I mean, they probably don't even know what that is.
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God made you, although you don't believe in God.
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She's the one saying I don't believe in her God.
04:46:59.760
Wow, you're really far from that microphone there.
04:47:07.440
Right now, I'm going to have to go with like a six.
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Like, so like, okay, your total count would be, could be ten max.
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Yeah, eight for the face and then six for the body.
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For total, I would do six, face, six, body, seven.
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So, since I can't say seven for anything, I think my face would be closer to an eight than
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a six, body probably six, and then total probably closer to a six than an eight, so six.
04:48:41.300
And can I quickly follow up with this by asking, if we can go around one more time, and ask
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from your personal perspective, who do you think the prettiest girl in the room is?
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Who do you think the prettiest girl in the room is?
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I feel like everyone here is, like, the guy in here, like, yeah.
04:49:37.100
Well, because, like, everyone in here is, like, hot.
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Who's the prettiest out of all the hot girls that you see is?
04:49:53.820
Um, probably these two ladies right here next to me.
04:51:06.000
We're getting, boys, we're getting him to 100K fucking tonight.
04:51:17.980
Guys, we have 8,000 on YouTube, 2,000 on Twitch.
04:51:22.100
Can the mods put his channel in the description?
04:51:42.740
Andrew Bartholomew Wilson to 100,000 subscribers tonight.
04:52:02.780
No, I actually wanted to come back to the Soul 10 ranking here.
04:52:50.480
By the way, have you girls also noticed how much better the panel's already gotten now
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It was that time of the month for me before the show.
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Granted, we had like flakes and we had two no-shows and then...
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And a couple people running late, but the no-shows, that was pretty bad.
04:53:32.240
And she was also a soul-sucking energy vampire.
04:53:47.420
Have you ever like hyped up a dog and you just like start spazzing out a little bit and the dog starts spazzing?
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Like I was a little on edge and she was like, okay, let me start to freak the fuck out too.
04:54:10.000
Nick wasn't able to lay down the law because normally he does like a whole like 10, 15-minute pre-show, but we skipped the pre-show.
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I don't think we've ever skipped like pre-show instructions.
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So, yeah, I think that didn't really set the stage for like expectations and conduct and shit.
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If God made you perfect, why do you need to get fake titties?
04:55:34.420
Well, did God make you perfect before the fake titties?
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I'm trying to understand because you said you're a 10.
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Because I'm not going to rate myself anything less than that.
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Now, what other people want to rate me, they can.
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Because you could get lipo and just get lipo, right?
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I had to gain like 20 pounds to get the procedure.
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How much did you weigh before you decided to intentionally get fat?
04:57:15.060
I mean, 145 for my height actually isn't like any type of...
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It's pretty actually like regular weight for my height.
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Like skinny chicks will intentionally gain weight so they can have it removed so they
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Like they're not going to just get the lipo if they're going to gain...
04:57:43.340
Like they're going to use the fat, put it on the booty.
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If you're perfect before, like there's nothing wrong.
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It was just something I wanted to do, you know?
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I did a lot of like photo shoots, videos, stuff like that beforehand.
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It wasn't one of your like sugar daddies that paid for it?
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Earlier you were saying you want a guy to pay for...
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Like as my man, if he's going to be my man, like you want to deal with me like that.
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Even if he didn't, should I still rate myself less?
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If he already made you perfect, why would you need the BBL, the lipo, and the fake boobs?
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I mean, that came from her mouth, not mine, but okay.
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Wait, so did you view yourself the same way prior to the cosmetic surgery?
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If you were a 10 before the procedures, you wouldn't need the procedures.
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Well, it's like I want a boob job and like say I'm an 8 right now, I'm gonna get the
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Is there something wrong with the titties currently?
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Just because you want something doesn't mean...
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Is she like supportive or is she like fuck now?
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Can I ask you a question about getting a boob job?
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You know I had a breast augmentation before I became a Christian.
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I wish I wouldn't have now because I didn't do it for me.
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So I would recommend to like wait on something like that.
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Like it's not something you just want to jump and do because you could regret it.
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I think like anywhere from like 5k to like 10k right?
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Are you going to go on the low end or are you going to try to get like a better, you
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And then ladies here who've had fake boobs or maybe you haven't but you know about, my
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understanding is don't you need to get them replaced every like 10 to 20 years?
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So over the course of a lifetime, you could go, you could have anywhere from like three
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So over the course of a lifetime, that's maybe 30, $40,000.
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So you're telling me, you're telling me that the surgeon will redo the surgery for free?
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I mean, if you get a certain kind, yeah, you have insurance on them.
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Yes, you got to pay to go under the knife, but you don't have to pay for the implants.
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Or like, I don't know what the cost of the, I assume you still have to pay the surgeon to redo it.
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Mine don't have to be replaced every 10 years, though.
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Like, they've come out with new ones that unless something punctures or happens, you're fine.
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I was under the impression that you had to get them redone.
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In any case, that's not really the central point of my argument.
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But I'm just kind of confused here in terms of, you said it's not for men.
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Like, I've always seen myself as a perfectionist.
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So, like, when I look at my body in the mirror, like, I have a very specific way that I want to look.
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Kim Kardashian has done absolute destruction on women's mental psyche.
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So, besides, do you want to get anything done besides the breast implants?
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I mean, everyone's, like, perfect the way that they are.
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Even if you got small titties, don't do that shit.
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Even if one titty is bigger than the other, don't do that shit.
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Even if one titty is, like, a little leaning that, pointing that way.
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The other titty, it's like you got fucking, what's it called?
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If the lazy titty pointing that way at one point, you don't need it.
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You'll find a man who will love your lazy titty.
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There are men out there who will worship your lazy titty.
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I mean, but, like, who cares what the men think?
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Wait, if you don't mind me asking, what's the current cup size, I guess?
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Isn't that, like, the most, like, desired already?
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That's, like, me already having a big dick and be, like, well, let me just make this shit bigger.
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Well, I mean, like, if they want to do that, like, we want them big old, big old tits.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Men also go to the gym to get bigger, stronger, and whatnot.
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And men will straight up admit that they do that to be more attractive to women.
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The difference is women never admit to doing that to be more attractive for men.
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Well, if I got, like, say, I don't know, like, veneers, like, that'd be to be more attractive to men.
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But, like, a boob job, like, I don't know, just be for myself.
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Wait, just to be clear, you think men will care more about your teeth?
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Nobody here has ever noticed them, so it's just something the only you notice.
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I feel like teeth will actually be more for me.
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Don't let these men or women tell you otherwise.
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I just said, I think people, women with their bodies and men with their bodies should do
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Don't let other women or men tell you otherwise.
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Because what I was just going to end up saying was just don't overdo it and don't get body,
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That's literally what's causing y'all to get this fucking plastic surgery.
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I have body dysmorphia and that's why I want to get it, but it's not for men's because
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You have, listen, I want to, I'm going to get, don't worry about, what the, is it fucking
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If it fucking comes for me, if it comes for me, I'm going to, you know, I'll take the bullet,
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Okay, but you, you also, you, you have agency, right?
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So instead of just seeding, instead of capitulating to your supposed body dysmorphia, who knows if,
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What if that's programming from society that's in your head?
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You can be steadfast and say, I'm not fucking buying into this.
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I'm not going to be, I'm going to be in control of my mind.
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My, my, my mind is not going to be in control of me.
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I mean, I, I do try to do that, but I mean, I do overthink things.
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I mean, I'm like, I don't really try, but like, I'm tired, bro.
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In comparison to other girls and how guys like 30 girls like that.
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She's already got double D's, but now she's getting triple D's.
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Yeah, I definitely have something to do with it, but I'm just like, I feel like, I don't know.
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And it, and it's okay to, you know, admit like you want other people to view you sexy like those other women on social media.
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A lot of women make a lot of money off of having a nice body, like done a body, so.
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Even if you had small titties, even if you had small titties, I'd be telling you, like, it's not like, oh, your boobs are already good.
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Even if you had small boobs, saggy boobs, pointing in two different direction boobs, I'd still say this shit to, to a girl.
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But I mean, it's, it's kind of even more crazy for you because you already got the titties, but why you got it?
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You need to curate and develop a constitution that responds to the programming that you've been fed through TV and movies.
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And you got, not only just that, you got to fucking destroy that shit.
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I think it's that I'm just like a perfectionist.
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Like, I think that I already look good, but I'm just like.
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Like, what if I told you, and I know you said you're not doing it for men, but what if I told you that actually from a purely aesthetic perspective, that actually fake breasts, do I have a lisp?
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Fake breasts are less aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
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For both men and women, fake breasts are, they don't look right.
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It just, I don't know, bro, it's like, especially like these girls who had nothing before, it looks like, I don't know, the skin's too tight on that shit.
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Well, that's if you get a, like a, it depends on like the doctor and the sizing and everything like that.
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But like, if I like it, then I like it, you know?
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I ain't ever seen some fake titties, then I'm like, those, their, her titties look better now.
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No, I'm like, I'm sure there's a lot of crazy titties in there and a lot of nice ones, too.
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A lot of men prefer, here's the crazy thing, you already have nice boobs.
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So it's like, men already are going to like what you got going on.
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Like, I know that some men don't like that, and I'm just like.
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I mean, like, it's like if you're like, per se, really short, and like, you don't, like,
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Do the guys, I don't know, say you're really short, you want to be taller, and you're like,
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I'm trying to think of an example of like something that would be like a boob job to
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What if you lost, like, what if you had complications, and you had like lost sensation?
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What if you, what if you died under anesthesia?
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Yeah, but you're willing to take, you're literally willing to risk the chance of death, albeit
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So like, you're, you're single D, and you want to go double D, is that correct?
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So you're willing to risk your life, albeit it's a low chance of death.
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Well, I mean like, I mean people get on airplanes to go to fucking Ibiza, and there's a slight
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And like the statistics were low, like at least in like, because I was like, I was like,
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It's more likely to have like, capsular contractions and other problems with, you know.
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Yeah, and I know the risks, but it's also like, I was also in like, my first year of college,
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like we didn't study that kind of stuff, but I wanted to be an anesthesiologist, so I was
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in pre-med, but it's like, all I remember from, in pre-med was like, this statistics.
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It's just, I'm too tired to finish my sentence.
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I'm like, I'm like, seeing the moth still, and I know it's not there, like.
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It's just, because like, normally I'll hear like, it's rare to hear this from a girl who
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I don't know what the term is, but like, you know, it kind of makes a little more sense
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if like, the girl has small boobs or it's flat.
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I'm still against it, but like, it's interesting to be like.
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At the end of the day, it's like, it's for them, yeah.
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I went up to a triple D when I was pregnant with my son.
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And then I had my daughter, breast cancer, suck the life out of me, and they've shrunk
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So then there's that extra skin from where it's stretched.
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Getting a boob job to get bigger to where it was would make it where.
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Okay, well if I, let's say I just grant that I'm fine with that, although I'm not.
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But, um, I still think prior to that, I just don't, I don't, I don't know, I just don't
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Sometimes I feel like men just want to keep us ugly, like, keep us in a closet and keep
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But as like moms, like we have these kids and then like, you go from regular titties to
05:14:16.500
big titties back to small titties and then you breastfeed and then you look like.
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And then guys, I think, I think, I think, exactly.
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They look like those like long tube sock titties you got going on and you just like don't like
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Do you think that most women who get breast implants are doing it under those circumstances?
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No, you gave me an example of women who've breastfed and there's changes to the breast.
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I would argue most breast implants are not for like something corrective, but it's just
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like some chick, never had kids, wants big fake titties.
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I feel like girls get it more because they want them, not because they're.
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I didn't get my body done until after I had a kid.
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I did it so I would be more sexually desired by men at the time.
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Look, I've done polls in the chat for the show.
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And I'll ask, men, do you prefer, would you prefer a woman with small natural boobs or
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And it's like 80-90% of men prefer natural, even if they're small.
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I feel like men, a lot of times, like, say they like natural this, that, and the other.
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But then they go and cheat on their girls with these crazy BBL bandits and whatnot going on.
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And I'm definitely not, like, an advocate for plastic surgery.
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So I'm definitely not saying, like, go get that done.
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But I just, I feel like I see it all the time where, like, even, for example, like, a guy
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I previously dated, you know, would always tell me, oh, you're so skinny.
05:16:08.720
But then went and cheated on me with girls who were, like, all done up.
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And it's like, bro, that's what you really like.
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Like, I'm just, I'm just the whatever, the one that's here dealing with you.
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I just feel like men say they like this and like that.
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Because why are all these women then going and getting all these surgeries?
05:16:35.240
I was going to say, if we didn't have, like, social media the way we do, do you think women
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Like, if there was no social media, do you think there'd be any fake boobs at all?
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Because I was actually just thinking about this today.
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Because I think that sometimes, like, with the occurrence of OnlyFans, you know, with
05:16:53.260
that happening, I think that, like, what would happen is, is, like, that temptation would
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And I think that maybe the girlfriend or wife would be like, why are you looking at
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The Kardashians have absolutely savaged, like, generations.
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But I think you, as women, on the individual level, need to have agency and be like, I'm
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not going to buy into what society is telling me.
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And that's why the patriarchy needs to come back.
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So, one, so we can ban and outlaw cosmetic, purely cosmetic surgery.
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They be getting height surgery, all types of stuff.
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There's not very many men who are getting height surgeries.
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I'm talking about when you say a lot more than you'd think.
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A lot more men get cosmetic surgery than you think they do.
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I said that a lot, most men, I'm sorry, basically no men anywhere are getting height surgery.
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There's a few, but there's not very many at all.
05:18:42.940
It's not something that most men, whatever you can consider, honestly.
05:18:53.960
They have penal injections to make your penis bigger.
05:19:00.240
Men are not going to come open on a podcast like women are and be like, yeah, I got this
05:19:12.760
No, I think that there would be just as forthright as women.
05:19:18.020
You just can't hide the shit that you've had done.
05:19:20.920
Like, we can tell when you've had nose jobs and your Brazilian butt lifts and your boob
05:19:32.620
If they've had a bunch of plastic surgery, you can easily tell.
05:19:35.640
It's not like it's something where we're like, oh, wow, I didn't know that.
05:19:43.820
Do you think that plastic surgery is a byproduct of social media and that it wouldn't be around
05:19:49.860
I mean, plastic surgeries existed before social media.
05:19:52.880
There was depictions in all kinds of media prior to social media.
05:19:56.320
I mean, if you look at the 80s and 90s, these big, giant, fake titties that look fucking
05:20:01.240
terrible, terrible, were kind of, you know, I feel like for a period they were kind of
05:20:10.620
falling out of favor, but then Kardashians came around.
05:20:15.780
BBLs, no offense to you, BBLs look fucking terrible.
05:20:21.840
It looks like women are dragging a full diaper.
05:20:26.100
It looks like women are dragging a full diaper.
05:20:52.860
You have pretty, very evident scarring, I believe.
05:21:03.100
I don't know if it's scarring, but lipo tends to...
05:21:07.120
I feel like my stomach doesn't even look warped, like the lipo bellies you're talking about.
05:21:10.860
I can find the photo if you're fine with me pulling it up.
05:21:16.520
I do need to just double check and make sure it's not like...
05:21:26.800
So it's not clear to me if these markings on your belly are from...
05:21:41.020
You're not aware of the markings on your belly?
05:21:44.000
Yeah, if you want me to point it out, I mean, it's no scarring.
05:21:50.400
The lipo was done on my back and, like, way down in my bikini line.
05:21:58.200
Okay, so then maybe it's from your pregnancy then, the scars...
05:22:00.680
It's not scars, but I mean, if it's a stretch mark.
05:22:03.320
Okay, well, I mean, I've seen, like, the lipo belly.
05:22:06.940
It does tend to, if they get it from the lower abdominal or the mid-abdominal, it does distort the belly, the front belly.
05:22:16.200
Maybe you got it from a different region, but...
05:22:21.400
I think women go into surgery a lot of times not very educated on how expensive post-op care is and stuff.
05:22:28.640
So you've got to get massages, and you're supposed to get them for, like, four, six months after your surgery.
05:22:40.640
And then the first month, you need them every single day.
05:22:42.940
So in the first month, you're going to spend $2,000, $3,000 just on massages.
05:22:48.060
So if you don't do that, you're going to have a lipo-crazy-looking belly because all that fluid is still stuck in your stomach.
05:22:59.440
Like, you have full range to speak on it because, like, you are educated.
05:23:06.200
Wait, you're, like, co-signing her cosmetic surgery?
05:23:11.680
Well, I think that I don't have to agree, per se, what she's saying, but she is educated.
05:23:33.400
For example, I'd rather a girl with an A cup over, like, she could be flat over fake tits.
05:23:41.020
I'd prefer, like, even a little belly fat over lipo.
05:23:48.600
Basically, you can just take any woman who's had these procedures,
05:23:51.480
and I'd prefer them as they were before having got the procedure.
05:23:57.820
So, and I genuinely think a lot of men feel this way, and I do think, ladies, you kind of,
05:24:03.420
at least when it comes to your dating prospects, I know you guys aren't, like,
05:24:11.420
It still hurts your dating prospects, I genuinely think, because I think a man who does have his
05:24:17.220
head on right is going to see a woman who's got all this cosmetic surgery,
05:24:21.100
and, like, it's going to kind of, like, make him consider, like, hmm, okay.
05:24:27.740
Someone who has a lot of plastic surgery, that's a proxy for body dysmorphia.
05:24:36.360
No, because there's a lot of men who date a lot of women that are done up.
05:24:43.680
There are plenty of men in long relationships with women.
05:24:48.220
All their women are BBL'd up out and freaking booed out.
05:24:57.220
Do you think society would be better if women didn't feel a need to get plastic surgery?
05:25:06.340
Like, would it be better for women if there was no plastic surgery?
05:25:12.320
Because if nobody could get plastic surgery, then there would not be this competition thing.
05:25:16.740
I think some plastic surgery is, like, good, but then some is, like, way over the top.
05:25:24.460
Okay, give me an example of a good plastic surgery.
05:25:26.080
What if somebody, like, wanted, like, had a big mole on their face and they wanted it removed?
05:25:35.540
I think we're going to make the same argument, Andrew.
05:25:37.380
The origin of plastic surgery was actually to fix some sort of deformity.
05:25:43.760
Or if somebody was injured in warfare, for example, half their face is blown up.
05:25:48.780
Someone got in a, you know, they were in a fire.
05:25:53.560
I think in those circumstances, plastic surgery is medically indicated and justified.
05:26:02.400
It's not clear to me if most plastic surgery that's done today is done for these same sort of righteous reasons.
05:26:10.460
It occurs to me that it's typically done for vanity.
05:26:15.580
There's not a medical indication for putting plastic...
05:26:19.580
There's actually, I don't think really any medical indication for implanting plastic into your chest.
05:26:30.880
And fine, I'll grant, in the case of a woman getting breast cancer, she has a breast removed, I'll grant that.
05:26:36.140
Or like kids and then it's all, you know, she feels like...
05:26:40.500
In the case of a single woman who's never had children and who doesn't have breast cancer,
05:26:46.880
I can't think of a medically indicated reason for why she would need plastic surgery.
05:26:51.640
I don't think anyone needs plastic surgery unless you have one of those medical...
05:26:54.660
Like, I don't need plastic surgery, but I'm like...
05:26:56.740
I think if someone had a deformity or felt like people were staring at that instead...
05:27:01.800
I remember when I was younger, I had something that people I felt like were staring at constantly
05:27:05.340
and I just felt so self-conscious about it and nobody cared about it but me.
05:27:09.420
So when I got older, I paid for it and then it was gone.
05:27:11.740
And I was like, wow, like, I feel so much better now.
05:27:13.800
Like, I feel like people aren't staring at that anymore.
05:27:17.300
But yeah, like you said, if it's over the top, then it's like not...
05:27:27.140
I've thought about it far more than I probably should.
05:27:29.980
But because I'm on the show so much, I kind of had to dive into it.
05:27:37.660
Or what if you're morbidly obese and you lose a ton of weight?
05:27:45.840
And then they go in and they kind of cosmetically fix it
05:27:48.060
and they stretch the stomach and this type of thing.
05:27:55.500
is what we're looking at, we know kind of what a normal proportion
05:28:01.380
So we engage in society day in, day out, all day long.
05:28:05.320
We see hundreds and hundreds and thousands of human beings
05:28:07.740
and hundreds of thousands over our lifetime, this type of thing.
05:28:15.420
And so if somebody has horrible burn scars or things like this,
05:28:29.540
suddenly that actually creates a different kind of disproportionality.
05:28:33.500
And I think that that's what he's actually objecting to.
05:28:35.820
And I think that that's what he means by a beauty standard,
05:28:40.120
what they would consider natural proportions on people,
05:28:50.660
well, wait a second, I wish I had bigger breasts,
05:28:56.760
but then the proportions often are totally off for their body type.
05:29:02.380
And so you say, well, but men will still have sex with me.
05:29:11.160
That's not an indication that the beauty standard itself is actually good.
05:29:28.420
do you think he's with you solely because of those things?
05:29:40.600
like if you lost those alterations that you've made
05:29:49.980
you think he wouldn't have even been interested?
05:29:52.600
Just, let's assume you didn't have any of that stuff
05:30:10.240
and I was with them obviously before I had got my body done
05:30:26.740
Maybe you'll get attention from superficial men
05:30:33.160
I think superficial men will do that to anybody,
05:31:26.880
like if you were obese and then you had a bunch,
05:31:32.200
I think it's a little different Andrew there because,
05:31:35.360
and I actually would kind of be fine with like loose skin removal.
05:31:41.180
There actually could be medically indicated reasons why it could potentially,
05:31:45.300
loose skin could present some actual physical discomfort.
05:31:57.300
You are all beautiful and deserve a lot better.
05:32:16.040
assuming this person wasn't obese and assuming at one point in their life,
05:32:41.300
She's not doing a return to a previous breast size.
05:32:45.000
She's not doing a return to how she used to be her normal,
05:32:58.200
You could have like a disfigurement on your face or something like this,
05:33:03.060
And then later technology becomes available that will fix this disfigurement so that you kind of look like everybody else who's around you.
05:33:16.060
And I don't think you would object to that either.
05:33:20.800
an example here might be like somebody who's born with a,
05:33:28.600
there must've been some point in history where there was no medical intervention for some people who have cleft palates.
05:33:44.040
now they can get that procedure when they're very young and they pretty much look just about totally normal.
05:33:54.720
it's not clear to me if a woman who has small breasts,
05:33:59.600
it doesn't occur to me that that's a disfigurement.
05:34:19.160
something's wrong here because it's totally disproportionate frame.
05:34:24.440
this is a sign that it's not healthy or you look bad.
05:34:27.700
this type of thing that would be kind of ingrained in you as a sign of non-health.
05:34:40.220
all the things that I observe about human beings,
05:34:49.120
There's some sort of enhancement or there's something I think that you can
05:34:52.620
generally tell about people just based on their body frame.
05:34:56.780
I think that the attractiveness level does decrease.
05:34:59.520
There's a reason that human beings look the way that we do and why we're
05:35:04.520
And oftentimes these kinds of medical enhancements actually detract from that.
05:35:16.660
I just kind of see this as an assault against the physical and mental health of our,
05:35:38.360
it's like half a trillion dollar global industry.
05:35:44.800
keeping women feeling insecure and self-conscious about their physical appearance.
05:35:56.820
there's almost like two feminist views on this.
05:35:58.860
One feminist view is women should be allowed to get these procedures,
05:36:10.040
which actually acknowledges my position on this,
05:36:12.560
which is that this is sort of a societal attack on women essentially.
05:36:19.300
there's this undue pressure and burden on women,
05:36:26.980
and unnecessary medical procedures that otherwise are not medically,
05:36:46.500
And we must protect them of attacks of mind and body.
05:37:01.240
even over whatever it is that we're feeling in the whim.
05:37:12.560
inject my penis with X so that it looks bigger.
05:37:15.700
that doesn't seem to comport with reason when it gets to what the risk potentially could be.
05:37:19.880
But what's interesting is that women seem to ignore these risks far more,
05:38:07.080
your increase for cancer and breast cancer and everything else,
05:38:15.900
I'm not really sure how that really comports the reason to do that.
05:38:24.080
I don't think ultimately I haven't seen many boob jobs that look good.
05:38:33.060
Then you can tell immediately and you're just like,
05:38:54.440
we gotta put some respect on the small titties.
05:39:01.600
which is every single one is just a fucking dagger to my heart.
05:39:05.120
These poor women getting their labias chopped off.
05:39:18.460
there's one more thing on the fake titty thing.
05:39:41.540
You've been chewing on your fingernails and chewing gum at the same time.
05:39:51.540
I have a compulsive disorder cause I have severe ADD.
05:40:03.840
The girl you kicked reminds me of a great value Kiko and the girl with the red bangs.
05:40:39.960
she was doing that on purpose to get you guys ticked off.
05:40:57.180
I'm not going to say to you what you want to hear.
05:41:01.100
Women need to chill with all the cosmetics and makeup.
05:41:04.120
I'd rather marry someone with a monobrow and whiskers than a fake.
05:41:29.120
she'd be kind of bratty and annoying sometimes,
05:41:44.660
let's get into some of the pre-show notes unless there's anything over there.
05:41:52.900
I feel like there's something related to the plastic surgery stuff that I
05:42:06.160
Me and my ex-boyfriend would hang out with this girl a lot.
05:42:21.200
and I don't have problems with like my boyfriend's like having female friends,
05:42:31.240
And we went out to dinner with her one time and like,
05:42:37.120
like literally everything from like gas to like,
05:42:41.860
And so we brought her out and ate with her one night and it was literally
05:42:52.880
I found out later that that was his ex-girlfriend and that we were hanging
05:43:07.460
like under the table and like pretend to like pay for it with my card.
05:43:10.100
Or like when he got a tattoo and didn't tell me that he couldn't afford the
05:43:15.040
tattoo until after he got the tattoo at the front desk.
05:43:26.120
That's not the worst thing that's happened to me in a relationship.
05:43:31.900
You also said most people have been brainwashed by the media adult content when it
05:43:42.220
Do you mean like both men and women have unrealistic standards?
05:43:45.520
I think so for personally for themselves and other people.
05:43:50.060
but honestly the media and like pornography and all of that has had like a
05:43:57.120
I know a boot job exists like from the internet.
05:44:05.360
Have you ever done any kind of sex work or anything?
05:44:14.280
Now you said when it comes to dating and intimacy,
05:44:30.400
it's like being like shredded in the gym and stuff like that,
05:44:33.860
like having like perfect tits and like a nice ass.
05:44:46.620
like their body and like how the way that they look and stuff like that.
05:45:00.000
or I was in a relationship one time where it's like,
05:45:03.320
and I would be scrolling through like Instagram and I would see like,
05:45:06.500
he would be liking all the girls with like unrealistic body standards,
05:45:11.960
so that kind of put into my brain that that's what he wanted.
05:45:31.440
you told me before with this girl that rage quit,
05:45:36.880
Did she actually tell you what those disagreements were?
05:45:51.600
but that would have been interesting to actually hear her criticisms.
05:45:54.460
Cause it's always interesting to actually see if people,
05:46:04.260
DM'd us asking to be on the show and they believe her name was Paloma,
05:46:09.800
So they were originally going to maybe come on in May,
05:46:17.380
And so that's probably how they knew about like how she knew about the show.
05:46:28.040
I was actually going to get into the disagreement stuff,
05:46:44.720
You want to tell them to their face that you're anti,
05:48:13.860
because you want to do long walks on the beach?
05:48:20.860
Hear about how you're emotionally stable you are
05:48:25.760
Or are they there because they want to see your boobs?
05:48:28.560
Which thing do you think that they're there for?
05:48:43.480
Having an OnlyFans does not make you a sex worker.
05:48:46.060
People have OnlyFans and freaking do chef stuff on there.
05:48:52.320
I mean, a sex worker is really somebody who sells their body for...
05:49:10.400
Well, sex is not a requirement of prostitution.
05:49:20.520
If you were to go and just like fondle a guy's gonads...
05:49:26.760
You're never going to let me answer the question.
05:49:33.100
would you be a prostitute if he paid you money and you did that?
05:49:43.120
So you don't know by your own standard what a sex worker is?
05:49:50.620
How do you know if you don't even have a standard for what one is?
05:50:03.220
Somebody who is going and getting money to have sex with somebody.
05:50:11.280
No, because you could be showing up as a prostitute
05:50:20.000
I mean, I think you're still a prostitute if you have sex for money, yes.
05:50:28.460
and that's all you ever did, does that make you a sex worker?
05:50:42.360
If you just show up at a guy's house, you take off all of your clothes...
05:50:46.880
If you take off all your clothes in front, it's still prattling.
05:50:48.960
If you take off all your clothes in front, it's still prattling.
05:50:50.900
Anyway, if you take off all your clothes in front of him
05:50:52.580
and you start masturbating, you're not a sex worker.
05:50:55.240
just want to make sure if he pays you for that you're not you're not a sex worker if he pays
05:51:00.840
is that right yeah ask the police don't ask me you don't i know what i do is illegal so i'm not
05:51:07.440
a sex worker and i i mean it's legal it's legal in other places so i don't know so let me get
05:51:13.580
this right the only standard for what a sex worker is is what the police say it is i mean yeah that's
05:51:19.800
the people who came okay so then why is it even illegal like why is it right so then so then if
05:51:27.080
i can give you a single country that has the standard that only fans workers are classified
05:51:31.140
as sex workers then you would be a sex worker right if that's what yeah they classify it oh okay i don't
05:51:36.540
think every person with these two that i don't think every person with the only fans is a sex
05:51:40.560
worker not every person who does only fans by the way i made only fans like two weeks ago so
05:51:45.620
i didn't say that every person who has an only fans is a sex worker i said that women who are
05:51:52.420
selling sexual pictures and only fans are sex workers i don't think so i would disagree but okay
05:51:58.560
yeah i know but anytime i give you an example you just go ask the police so any woman who sends a
05:52:04.020
sexy picture does that make her a sex worker no it's selling it like a subscription service but but but
05:52:09.660
okay so then if a guy pays me for a sexy picture and i'm not naked that makes me a sex worker
05:52:15.560
yeah just like how if you can go out you can go out and sleep with 50 guys and that would make
05:52:21.000
you a slut but it wouldn't make you a prostitute unless they paid you okay so right again if i if
05:52:29.400
if if i'm getting paid if i send somebody a picture of me in a bikini right and he and they give you
05:52:37.360
money that makes me a sex worker yes all right then by your definition sure okay but by society
05:52:44.560
by the law's definition by by 5-0 i don't think it's the same so by all definitions it would be
05:52:50.360
sex whether they prosecute you for the sex work or not whether they prosecute you for it or not
05:52:55.640
doesn't mean it's not so here uh i think wait andrew uh i shouldn't even came so on her of
05:53:04.340
there's no wait did you say you shouldn't have come on yeah because you guys are just rude
05:53:09.460
well how's it how's it rude to call a sex worker i'm not a sex worker but thank you all right i'm a
05:53:15.660
sex worker that's true that is true i don't want to ever be labeled thank you i'm sure well i mean
05:53:25.280
most people who are engaging in anything bad probably don't want to be labeled as thing bad
05:53:29.980
no i don't know because i don't feel like i feel like it's a pride and respect thing and just because
05:53:36.460
i made an only fans does not make me a sex worker which i made like a month ago so you're selling your
05:53:43.640
body which people are getting sexual gratification from on purpose so that they get sexual gratification
05:53:48.760
from it you are a sex worker you're just coping i don't know why you're coping so hard i'm not
05:53:54.280
coping i think you're just trying to label me something and i disagree with you thank you
05:53:59.080
okay well i'm sure that there's plenty of prostitutes who would disagree that they're
05:54:02.800
prostitutes who exchange money for sex i definitely don't think so i think if a woman is out selling
05:54:07.160
selling coochie she knows exactly what she's doing i don't think you would label so you would label
05:54:12.120
a prostitute whether she liked it or not huh so you would label her a prostitute whether she liked
05:54:17.560
it or not i think she knows she's a prostitute what yeah but if she thought if she said i'm not
05:54:21.720
a prostitute you would still label her one right i'm selling a subscription to a website that if you
05:54:28.360
want to go look and see pictures of me in bikinis and me shaking ass which you can literally see on
05:54:32.840
my instagram same thing um sure and now i gotta take my only fans down because i just ruined it for all
05:54:38.840
my fans so i actually wanted to do an only fans where it was lunch dates and i got a
05:54:44.520
so i like to just eat lunch and um yeah oh firework wait uh andrew so what did i don't think it so that
05:54:55.480
she none of her images are uh public on her only fans it's literally like a blank screen but there are
05:55:02.040
some descriptions that i think would actually help uh make the case that based on that's the point
05:55:08.680
duh so it's thirst traps i just told you that yeah so from a tos yeah i'm gonna start doing y'all how
05:55:17.000
y'all doing y'all like that okay just let me talk though so andrew from a tos perspective
05:55:22.840
do you think there's any concerns there yeah i wouldn't do it i mean he's already saying that
05:55:27.560
he's labeling me a sex then i'll just okay we won't so to the viewers we just just out of an
05:55:32.840
abundance of caution we're not going to pull up her of yeah but okay i'll just read the the little
05:55:40.040
you know in an instagram post you can put like a little description so the same with only fans
05:55:45.160
these are all behind a paywall it's a 25 subscription uh you have one that says big booty
05:55:51.080
you have one that says titties you have one that says y'all want to see me take this off
05:55:58.120
removing your clothes that could go go subscribe and see what i do okay well seriously you want to
05:56:04.840
find out so bad want to see it up close water emoji kissy face uh let's see body yadi yadi yadi i want
05:56:15.640
to look up to you like this uh water water splashing emoji winky kissy face booty cheeks would you see
05:56:25.480
um see me at the club fresh out the shower slippery and that's it my dear you're a sex worker no i'm
05:56:35.480
not you're just no i'm not you're a sex worker you're a sex worker you do only fans so to the gal who
05:56:41.400
who self-identifies as a uh prostitute yes um do you take off your clothes if men pay you yeah if
05:56:49.320
they yeah yeah and does she take off her clothes if men pay her uh well i guess with the i don't
05:56:56.760
i haven't seen her only fans but i guess with i would yeah i haven't i mean even if it's not full
05:57:02.040
nude if you accept would you would you accept if a man paid you money to take off your clothes even if
05:57:07.800
it was not the full monty well i'm having you know full-on sex with them yeah i know i get it
05:57:13.080
but would you take off your clothes for a client and not show them the rest of your body uh if that's
05:57:19.160
what they wanted if that's what they wanted yeah but usually i sit down and i'm like hey we got to
05:57:24.680
do the you know it's got to be full union and because then i i don't like people leaving the room
05:57:29.240
if they oh well i i don't like people being being like oh i let i paid all this money and then didn't
05:57:34.760
have sex with her like i'm like hey yeah but if they want yeah but that was if it was the client's
05:57:39.240
request that's what they like oh that's what they like okay yeah i mean i would i would do it yeah i
05:57:43.960
would and would you consider yourself less of a prostitute for showing up and only doing that no
05:57:48.600
right so i mean because it's something they like yeah i masturbate to guys because you're selling your
05:57:55.320
body for sexual gratification even if even if you're not taking off all your clothes and getting
05:57:59.720
penetrated right i agree totally agree couldn't agree with you more word all right moving on moving
05:58:07.480
on uh y'all crazy y'all wild shit okay hold on i'm gonna make a couple adjustments here uh one sec guys
05:58:17.720
okay uh we're gonna do guess the all my ladies if you've got only fans remainder of the show tts is 69
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come join the club adjustments here i'm gonna hide this top one um and then we need to do a couple
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adjustments but remainder of show uh tts is going to be 69 dollars time permitting we'll do a brief
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roast session actually i think we we might stay at 69 for the rest of the show so are all strippers
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sex workers yep yeah all strippers are sex workers interesting uh wow okay anyways all right
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going actually i would go so far as to call all of them prostitutes personally that's what i i
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consider all sex workers to just be prostitution even if you only make content with your boyfriends
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hold on yeah yeah i mean that's still prostitution i'm changing these names oh man i mean i don't see
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a way i don't see a way around it i mean all your clothes on you're a sex worker
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just know that according to these men according to these men right exactly right okay they sex
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workers too shit who are sex workers wait oh can you say catch me outside really quick just go ahead
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do it i know just say catch me outside how about that no come on are you gonna pay me uh i'll give
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you i'll give you three i mean that's what a prostitute would ask exactly that's what i just
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said you're gonna pay this expert by the way andrew you missed me you missed the part earlier on in
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conversation maybe you heard a brief part of it so in order for her to be willing to date a guy and
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then well in order for her to sleep with the guy the guy has to be willing to pay her rent her car bill
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her uh utility bill uh insurance etc etc etc you did say that correct yeah i said i don't want to
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be intimate with anybody they're not trying to provide for me and that's just how i feel so
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prostitution sure at this point i guess i okay all right that's more i'm like i guess i could be
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married to somebody they could be doing all that for me and it's still prostitution right that's more of
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like a what's the standard but okay like they're gonna label it i mean it would be they want to label
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it gold digging prostitution escort they want to say whatever it would be if the only reason that
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you're married to him is for the material is for the material exchange so if you were to
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it's not no that's not it i i generally date if i like you okay if i'm going on dates with you i like
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you that doesn't mean i'm gonna have sex with you okay but you said you said you could that doesn't
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mean anybody can just have sex with me to pay me either that doesn't mean that any guy can just
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come around hey i'll pay your bills i'm gonna be like yes oh my god come here you don't think
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prostitutes can pick who they sleep with obviously duh they can pick but that's not what a sex work
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that's not what a prostitute does a prostitute is getting the money in every way listen i would have
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to i would have to say that i think that if a woman is only with a guy because she gives him money
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to have sex with him that she's a prostitute i don't know what else to say
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it's like a caretaker role it's a more traditional mindset i think it's not necessarily that
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no well i think it's a more like traditional like exactly it's a caretaker role
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i was at a traditional no listen because i give you stuff for sex you're a prostitute
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like oh my god okay so like they said that like women are supposed to like like play the role right
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this is playing the role it's not that she's like them to get money it's like she like won't
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fuck them unless they like they can really take care of her like that and pay for her she can pay
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for herself yeah it's not like i need a guy to pay my bills she literally okay so my like my only
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fan like my point was is that if it were to be just transactional i'm only having sex with this guy
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because of stuff i get no i don't see how that's not prostitution at that point then all all
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traditional relationships are that you said you would not sleep they're not trans they're not
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transact yeah but how is it all transactional if i like you traditional i'm not it's not
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transactional because anybody can make a transaction then anybody can just make a transaction like
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traditional yeah it's traditional so like does that mean traditional relationship because you're
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gonna provide you're gonna provide and take care as a man which you should do y'all patriarchy as
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man right then is it y'all is it y'all responsibility y'all y'all with the patriarchy right y'all y'all
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believe in providing for women then do you believe women did you grow up no you don't exactly like
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i i gotta add did you where did you grow up with this uh with the uh with the accent wisconsin i'm
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from she's from she's from the mean streets of milwaukee son put some respect i'm just curious but
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anyway andrew put some respect i'm just curious where the traditional thing so how is it that housewives
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are prostitutes again huh that's what you're saying right housewives are prostitutes well that's
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technically no no that's kind of like what i'm saying underscore blocks underscore x underscore wf
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underscore big underscore mike donated sixty nine dollars does a higher body count equate to a
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better chance of attracting a higher quality husband slash father to your future i feel like having a
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standard wait answer answer the question answer the question first does a higher body count equate
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to a better no definitely not um but i think that you know oh my goodness ulysses the pagan donated 69
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most men that are overly open about their feelings is a grift the purpose take advantage bang and then
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ghost a man that's stoic and logical will respect women and won't play games just to get laid
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it's beautiful thank you ulysses i just think but what i was saying wait you think what oh my
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goodness i just i feel like nowadays women need to have a certain kind of standard because i think women
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end up being put into positions where they have to raise children by themselves and all types they're
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put into positions oh my goodness here we go it was an accident oh man oh man listen yeah but okay
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as a man if you made a a baby with a woman whether you want it or not it's here you're not taking care
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of it what does that make you pro-choice yeah aren't you pro-choice so wait women hold on okay so you're
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saying that men i'm not saying no because i know where you're gonna go i know exactly you're gonna
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go you're saying you're saying you're saying that men out here are these deadbeats for not wanting to
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take care of a child but it's cool for women to murder their child no is that that's what you're
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arguing right hold on hold on answer the question actually say this again hold on wait no now i'm
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interested so you have you have an objection to men being deadbeats to not being willing to
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financially provide or be there parentally custodially but you're totally cool with women
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killing the child in the womb i mean what i i said i'm pro-choice but what am i personally okay with
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is different than other people but i don't want to judge other people in their situations it's just
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crazy man so these pro-choice people yeah you might have to call prostitute sex workers no like do i i
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mean shut up oh my god anyways no but why was it why no if a woman gets pregnant what does that
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mean you have unprotected sex okay so as a man whether or not you wanted to keep the baby or
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whether or not the woman wanted to keep it or not say she did and you didn't want her to okay we
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used to have unprotected sex with her so you so let me use that same justification for arguing that
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women shouldn't get abortions what i didn't say that they shouldn't no but you you said that for
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you personally maybe you wouldn't get an abortion but you're you're fine with other women getting
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abortions under those scenarios that same scenario i mean if a woman wants an abortion she can get
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an abortion but it's never okay for a guy to leave the child right no they're deadbeats it's only
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bad what do you mean either or women could be deadbeats too so what are you talking about
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i'm confused on like how this is i'm confused too because like what do you okay i don't understand
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what she was asking but where were we were talking about sex work yeah what i was trying to say was
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basically that he was saying that the care the caretaking what they said earlier like that women fall
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into a role in a traditional relationship and they would fall under the man would be the
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bucky larson donated seventy dollars dear blonde strumpet in pink bow to brian right now or else you
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are titled a sex worker please stop being a strumpet and stop doing only fans be better and take of
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yourself yeah how good are you doing to give me advice thank you bucky larson thank you man i don't
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know bucky larson definitely doesn't make as much money but it's fine anyway i want to live as make as
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much money as who she started i thought she started on only fans like two weeks ago i don't know not
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just off only fans this girl does like have you even had your first payday yet yeah i mean yeah
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can i please just started two weeks ago well no i've had it for like a month it's been one month
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like three weeks to a month cash me outside please why no that's just no he just wants to
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because i mean what are you what are you rolling on your only fans after a month about a hundred
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thousand dollars a month like what are you rolling a hundred thousand you know i'm saying no why are you
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worried about what i make well because you're saying that this guy clearly doesn't make as much as you
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do i didn't say that she said but i didn't say that i said i said i don't take advice from people who
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don't live the life i want to live and i said that i don't know what type of life he lives i
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don't know who brian bucky get it right whatever yeah get his name right it's bucky larson but what
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would i what was i trying to say yeah so the they fall under the caretaking role right so by saying
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that like whatever you just said sorry i'm like so tired whatever you just said you should pay for
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first dates i do you you agree yeah no i like i have i don't have an issue with that yes like drizzle
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drizzle yes like women should i don't have an issue with like split shit that's what i'm saying
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is like is that you think a traditional relationship is basic that's basically prostitution at this
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point if the man is the caretaker and paying for shit which is what they said earlier a traditional
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relationship and how that's pretty much prostitution you're saying look i'm in my
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no the relationship itself is not transactional it's not transactional she's worried about a
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caretaker she didn't say she like fucks her money but i said i don't be i didn't i didn't apply it to
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you what i said to you specifically was only if it's purely transactional it's not it's purely
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transactional i have to like you it's not oh boy i don't like you got you if i don't emotionally like you
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then but you won't fuck until until he pays for your because i feel like if he invests into me
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then it's a less likely a chance that i'm not going to get cheated on left for freaking dead all that
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which left for dead i mean would you like would you would you put like a car payment down for like
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six months and just like fucking like give it away after all of that work if you if you sit there and
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you get and you have a woman and i'm treating her nicely i'm taking care of her right maybe we do
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some cool stuff whatever you're not gonna just up and leave this woman one i mean you might but the
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chances are are you in a relationship right now um i told you i was single okay so i happened in a
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relationship where my bills were paid yeah and i was that was my last relationship six thousand nine
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hundred and sixty nine blah blah 69 donated 69 dollars josie do not attend you are two at best
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yeah you aren't here laughing as a black chicken it's lame as you are not black we do not want you
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hold this asterisk asterisk l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l uh okay cool
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we should have a conversation about cultural appropriation i think okay oh man okay anyways
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okay no yeah sorry that was a bad joke well no like i'm down bad joke okay let me move that was so late
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uh going back to abigail abigail you're married where you know look i looked on your instagram i
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uh you know i didn't congratulations abigail yeah she's married i was married too once 20 years old
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married at 22 i was married at 22 kids coming no kids let's see how long eventually of course
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down the road of course andrew do you think she should just like start pumping them out now or
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just like wait a couple years i mean you generally the earlier the better for fertility purposes how
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many kids do you want as many as the husband will allow i can't hear you because you're not talking
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to the money as many as the husband will allow that's a good answer good answer anyways but i
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don't see you you got an instagram i don't see him anywhere on instagram why is that is he kind
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of private guy or what yeah that's that's upon his request it's personal reasons for him um in his
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situation he asks me not to post him i absolutely would i tell everyone about him all the time um but
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he's asked me not to i see okay moving on to cana tricks cana tricks well congrats i'm happy for you
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may you have many children and many many years of happiness with your husband thank you okay
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now uh do what's your actual name or okay okay you said you're the uh the queen of banishment
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what did i always like post borderline stuff on social media and i always
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hold on gr underscore mo to underscore fn underscore gracie donated 69 dollars to the gross blonde in the
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middle the men you meet only care about breast size because vanity is the only thing you have
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to offer do you want to respond quickly to that into the mic the men you meet only care about breast
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size um i mean i've met men before i got my body done and so successful men i dated a pretty successful
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man like a year ago i mean um before i had my body done so i don't really know what you're getting at
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but okay it sounds like he's projecting definitely he's definitely projecting that's what i'm saying
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like just because you couldn't pull a 10 doesn't mean you should tear other women down who are 10s
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gracie you're projecting dude stop projecting so much on god this is like sad like i almost like feel bad
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for him thanks for the 69 dollars uh i so you like i think on your twitter and your instagram you say
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queen of banishment what what does that mean that started because i got five tiktoks banned in one day
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so i made a new one oh yeah okay my bio was just queen of banishment and then because you got
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banished yeah and then all my other bios just kind of got transferred to that okay and you do of you
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do uh yeah you got a boyfriend correct yep some kids too yeah so then there's more than two sex work
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two sex workers in here since you know three well we got three three yes so uh and you do you shoot
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content with your boyfriend yeah okay um wait is your boyfriend the father of the children no
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the children have the same dad though they both have different dads oh wait so okay you have two
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children but they're both from different dads uh just want to say to the lifeless blonde can you please
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blank a blank a blank for some potato chips lolololololol
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i don't know there's a couple like i don't like i'm like wait are you natural blonde
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i am but i have to lighten it now because my hair wait you're natural oh when i was younger it was
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like this color but i'm like stuck i don't know you got your eyebrows yeah that's how you that's i
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like fill them in too like my eyebrows i'm actually natural blonde but my eyebrows are pretty dark
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I can tell you're a natural blonde from your skin tone.
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Yeah, I married my son's dad and then got divorced.
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You said you had someone propose after a month and a half?
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After I divorced my son's dad, I started seeing this guy.
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And after literally a month and a half, he had got down on one knee.
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Oh, you can scoot the mic to the very edge of the table.
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I did not feel comfortable wearing that ring because that was not what I was ready for.
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In Catholic Austria, we got special canyons where we throw them cock goblers into.
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You want to throw all the sex workers into a fricking fire?
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Like, you donated $69 just to, like, shit on people for making money?
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I remember what I was going to say during the plastic surgery bit.
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I'm single, 34, earn over $100,000 as an auto worker in Michigan.
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Better yourselves and don't sell sexy photos for money.
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Oh, the plastic surgery thing I was going to say, if I ever came into, like, I just had
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authoritarian power, like it was just a coup d'etat, I would ban, make...
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I would criminalize plastic surgeons and plastic surgery, like fake titties, felony, BBL, electric
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chair, electric chair for BBL, lipo felony, lip filler misdemeanor, although three strikes,
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then you get a felony if you get that shit more.
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No, actually, you get the guillotine because I'm French.
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What are the other plastic surgeries chicks get?
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You said you had another dude who wanted to impregnate you and tried to talk you into the same
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We have the money and you only sell your only seller body to make money while we work
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I just want to say that I know Aquatic personally.
06:19:10.980
And two, he actually made a shit ton of money in Dogecoin.
06:19:14.760
So like for him, this is like literally a penny.
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You know what's crazy is I could be going to charity and not for shitting on some bitches
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Instead of you getting fake titties, you could put that shit to charity too.
06:19:28.640
I'm not going to get fake titties unless I can afford to donate that much titty.
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He just said he's shitting on bitches on a podcast.
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I want you to apologize to every woman here who you just called a bitch.
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You in the wrong neighborhood to be disrespecting some ladies.
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And I will not stand for that in my neighborhood.
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Now we need to talk about cultural appropriation.
06:20:38.400
Again, you're going to spend like 7 to 10K on some fake titty.
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Why don't you just put that money in the chair?
06:20:56.680
The only reason Josie wears panties is to keep her ankles warm.
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Because someone told me one time, if you can't like say you're going to buy a really nice
06:21:26.600
car, don't buy the car unless you can buy two of them.
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Yeah, but you could just put more of that money towards the starving kids in Africa.
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Nah, but why you need fake titties when you could just keep sending them out?
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Criminalize on the grounds and watch how fast the childless blonde deletes it and I make
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How are you going to follow that up with an ooh-woo, bro?
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He was, I didn't know it, but going through a divorce at the time, and then I found out
06:22:36.540
later that him and that girl were trying to do IVF.
06:22:39.280
Meanwhile, before I knew all that, he was trying to convince me to not get back on birth
06:22:43.680
control when I went to go get my birth control switched.
06:22:46.060
And then, like, two months in, was trying to get me to go get married at the courthouse,
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and it was just an insane deal, and he was a psychopath.
06:22:54.760
And then you also, no, that's it for the notes.
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Didn't I guess, like, 1,050 last time, and now it's, like, probably 1,100.
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Hey, please don't, please respect a woman over here.
06:23:29.040
I said, 1,000, because I wasn't ready for that.
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I've been doing this for 10 years, so over 10 years.
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Please show respect to her and her 1,000 body count.
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Because at least she's not sitting here at the table being freaking hypocritical like
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I like the girl when she has every diamond on the table.
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I just feel like you guys are a little misogynistic.
06:24:58.280
Do you think a sex work keeps pedos and artists off the streets?
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Also, lady in the back, I would bet $1 million that your BD is black.
06:25:29.920
First, just so I make sure we're talking about the same thing.
06:25:45.240
I mean, it's like you know what it means, but you don't know how to explain it.
06:25:50.160
I don't want to say suppression, but like I want to.
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Because then I'll elaborate why I feel like it'd be like that.
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There's like a word, but like I can't think of it.
06:26:15.800
Well, so the question again is how do you define misogyny?
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I don't know what the actual definition is, but I think it's something around the.
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I don't want to say oppression of women, but like it's like putting women down because
06:26:38.080
I'll just give you a kind of a Google one here.
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Hatred or contempt for or prejudice against women.
06:26:44.300
So can you give me like what is the definition for the word prejudice?
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Because I just want to make sure when I say this, it's right.
06:26:58.300
Having a preconceived opinion or feeling, especially an unreasonable or unfavorable one towards
06:27:19.240
I mean, I feel like, yeah, I guess you guys are a little prejudiced towards like, you know,
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No, but towards plastic surgery, towards a woman wanting a provider.
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I don't think you can be prejudiced towards plastic surgery.
06:27:38.240
How would it be, how would it be misogynistic to be against plastic surgery?
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Wouldn't, isn't that more pro women than anti women?
06:27:50.960
But from a dating perspective, I don't, I'm interested in women.
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And so I can speak to my romantic and sexual interest in women.
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And what I find personally aesthetically pleasing.
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You wouldn't say that if a person said, I'm not attracted towards, um.
06:28:49.160
Andrew, I'm going to pause the TTS just briefly here to allow you to, uh, have this.
06:28:53.400
Yeah, so you would, you, I mean, if somebody said that they didn't want to, um,
06:28:57.180
I don't know, date a certain race because they weren't attracted to it, you wouldn't say
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I mean, that is kind of being prejudiced, isn't it?
06:29:10.020
So you think that you should date people you're not attracted to?
06:29:12.580
You're, so you won't date somebody because of a certain race, so you're not, you're not
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attracted to how they, I don't, yeah, if you're not attracted to the people of that
06:29:23.040
race, I don't know, like, that sounds a little something, yeah, because like, I don't
06:29:30.640
So you have to understand, if you're talking while I can't actually hear what you're saying,
06:29:34.500
it's just because the way the communication works, because I'm, I'm mobile, I'm not in
06:29:38.980
the room with you, so, um, my, my question is, why would it be prejudiced to, uh, let's
06:29:46.900
say you weren't, you weren't attracted to Asian men, you just weren't, for whatever
06:29:50.780
reason, they just didn't do it for you, is that prejudice?
06:29:56.880
I would think that's a generalization, because like, maybe there's one like, you know, you're
06:30:01.800
There's not one on planet Earth who does it for you that you've ever seen, so you, when
06:30:06.680
somebody says, hey, uh, do you date Asians, and you say, no, because I'm not attracted
06:30:11.520
to them, because you've never seen one ever that you're attracted to, is that prejudice?
06:30:17.140
Uh, I would just think it was a generalization, I, I would think it's, because, because, because
06:30:21.380
they really haven't seen all of them, so it's a generalization, but I think that, you know,
06:30:27.400
the, I would say it's a generalization, I wouldn't say it's prejudice?
06:30:32.900
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's prejudice, do you think, I mean, you think that that's
06:30:36.160
prejudicial, that you're being prejudiced towards a group, because you won't date
06:30:41.800
Well, I don't know, I don't know about that, and race, race, uh, I don't know, I mean.
06:30:47.040
Well, hold on, we've, like, if Brian says he's not ever going to date a trans woman, is
06:30:53.360
Well, no, that's, you know, I mean, if he dates women, so no, I mean, like, you know,
06:31:02.180
I feel like on a racial standpoint, it kind of is, but I don't know.
06:31:08.080
If you're not attracted to, uh, you know, X race, why would that, I don't understand how
06:31:13.220
that would be, uh, prejudice, that would just be your preference, that, you're not saying
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that there's anything wrong with them, you're just saying that for you, they don't do it
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Let's not allow ourselves to get off track here.
06:31:31.520
You said that I was prejudiced towards plastic surgery, and that is evidence of my misogyny.
06:31:52.580
You're using, but okay, you're making an accusation, you can't even define the word that you're using.
06:32:00.280
You guys are, I mean, you are, I just can't tell you the definition, because I'm, I'm the
06:32:05.240
type of person that I like to, if I'm going to speak on stuff, I like to at least know
06:32:11.900
what I'm kind of like, whatever, I do feel like you guys are being.
06:32:15.280
No, I want to, well, I wanted to finish this real quick.
06:32:16.780
Yeah, like, I know what, like, feminism is in misogyny.
06:32:18.280
Just on the, on the term prejudice, I'm almost done.
06:32:20.700
I just wanted to ask you, what, is it okay, or do you think it's being prejudiced if a
06:32:38.780
Nothing, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
06:32:42.780
I don't know if prejudice would be the word, I think, yeah, I would say general, generalization
06:32:51.080
But see, I feel like that's where the confusion is.
06:32:52.840
I wouldn't know how to coin that, actually, yeah.
06:33:00.740
So, going back to this, so, you used the fact that I'm against plastic surgery as evidence
06:33:12.940
I always thought that misogynists, like, want to have sex with, like.
06:33:24.520
The question is, how is being prejudiced against plastic surgery?
06:33:27.400
I feel like if a woman doesn't have the same opinion as you and whatnot, I feel like
06:33:34.080
So, I don't know what you want to define that as, but that's what I feel like.
06:33:37.100
I have a problem with everybody who has a different opinion than me.
06:33:42.960
Yeah, no, but is that misogynistic if I have a problem with everybody who has a different
06:33:49.240
I mean, when it comes down to women and how women feel about other women and you have
06:33:55.120
an issue on it, I mean, sure, you can speak your opinion.
06:33:59.460
But if I have a problem with everybody's opinion, which is different than my own opinion, then
06:34:05.420
that wouldn't be misogynistic because I'm not singling women out.
06:34:09.000
I'm saying everybody who disagrees with me is wrong, right?
06:34:12.680
I mean, wrong by what in your head may be, but maybe not in theirs.
06:34:22.500
It's not a preconceived notion that you're wrong because you have breasts.
06:34:26.380
It's a preconceived notion that you're wrong because I don't fucking agree with what you
06:34:38.540
I think to me, like, a misogynist is somebody that, like, kind of just, like, stomps on,
06:34:48.000
Like, doesn't, like, it's one thing to desire a woman and femininity to stay feminine in a
06:34:56.900
sense where, you know, keeping them, how do I, how do I, ooh, I think it's just, just
06:35:05.360
us, like, you, you can't work, but I'm, like, dude, I, like, need to, and then they're, like,
06:35:11.240
I'm, like, dude, well, what if I can't get married?
06:35:13.240
Like, what, like, can you, can I live my little life over here, my little hole in my little
06:35:16.820
Like, and if someone's, like, no, like, that, that's who I would, and then they're, like,
06:35:20.540
That's, that's who I want to think misogynistic.
06:35:21.900
I'm not going to, she's, she's walking away now.
06:35:24.100
Well, I'm going to want to have a little bit of further back and forth on the misogyny
06:35:28.000
accusation, but since she's now gone, we were going around, wait, I have to wait also
06:35:37.420
Okay, that's, you already told us about the whole, like, car thing.
06:35:44.680
So you met a guy, so basically the short version of it is you met a guy on Tinder, you abandoned
06:35:55.180
You said you'd love to talk about women showing their bodies online, seeking validation and
06:36:04.560
I just feel like nobody, it seems like no one wants to, you know, hear it here for my
06:36:14.440
I've just seen a lot of run around mental gymnastic answers, and I'm just not sure it would go
06:36:21.480
And did you have a history of, prior to, I guess, becoming a Christian, did you do any
06:36:30.720
So I was like a hot girl on Instagram, and I modeled for Harley Davidson for a few years.
06:36:36.880
And after coming to Jesus, I just thought, this just doesn't serve me.
06:36:44.040
And I just decided that, you know, if God hates it, so do I.
06:36:55.140
And when you converted, were you still a model at the time of your conversion?
06:37:07.580
It kind of happened over a few months, but as I was reading the Bible and getting through
06:37:11.780
it all, because I had a dream from God, that's like what started it.
06:37:16.160
After going through the Bible, I started feeling conviction over a few months.
06:37:28.880
Were you still working for Harley Davidson as a model?
06:37:33.580
And they were, so they were paying you to model for them?
06:37:37.600
It took like a few months to get to the conclusion of, okay, I do believe in Jesus.
06:37:43.300
And you were baptized as part of your conversion?
06:37:48.160
When you got baptized after your, was that after your conversion or before your conversion?
06:38:03.580
So at the time of your baptism, were you working as a model for Harley Davidson?
06:38:10.860
So what's happening is you're slowly converting to Christianity, your model for Harley Davidson,
06:38:17.520
but at the time you actually did convert, you were no longer working as a model, right?
06:38:24.420
And did you quit that job or were you removed from that job or what happened?
06:38:27.820
No, I quit that job with nothing else backup and I did it because I just put faith in God
06:38:34.000
and he did provide me another job, which is the job I have to this day.
06:38:37.920
And you wanted to also talk about sex outside of a marriage, correct?
06:38:44.020
I mean, it would be for the other girls and their opinions.
06:38:53.380
Well, what is your, just, why don't you state your position and the girls can respond?
06:38:59.520
Well, I guess I just wanted to know for anyone who only those who claim to be a Christian,
06:39:04.620
anyone who does not claim to be a Christian, like I don't think she does.
06:39:15.540
So anyone who claims to be a Christian, what is their viewpoint on sex outside of marriage?
06:39:19.460
And if you do it, why do you think that that's okay in the eyes of God?
06:39:27.940
I mean, I guess I grew up Christian, but honestly, I, my family was never like super,
06:39:35.520
Like they weren't like, and I had my grandma, um, she was Catholic, so they were super, super
06:39:41.360
But honestly, like sex outside of marriage, like, I don't know, like everyone like does
06:39:47.360
Like, honestly, cause it's like, if anything, like you could, you could wait until
06:39:52.340
marriage and then have sex during marriage, but then you could still get like, like something
06:39:56.240
bad could still happen and then you guys would get divorced and it would just be like that.
06:40:00.120
Like I, I have friends who are waiting until marriage and stuff like that.
06:40:02.540
And like, sometimes like I wish I did, but then like to each their own, like everyone
06:40:07.800
Like, I don't want to bash anyone for anything like that.
06:40:12.260
So my understanding is you're waiting until marriage, correct?
06:40:25.100
Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with that from the Christian worldview, but
06:40:34.060
Do you think if a man didn't want to wait until marriage, wait, please into the mic.
06:40:39.480
Cause he didn't want to wait for something that another man didn't have to wait for.
06:40:48.160
I think, uh, if it's, you know, who God wants me to be with, he wouldn't feel that way.
06:40:53.540
And he's probably, you know, in the same boat I am.
06:41:04.560
Have you faltered on this waiting until marriage thing?
06:41:06.440
Um, not with like actually doing it, but like with flirting and stuff like that and kind
06:41:16.120
I've fallen a few times, uh, a couple of years ago, but how long have you been celibate
06:41:25.260
Uh, I guess the thing that always, I mean, again, it makes sense if you've, I guess, become
06:41:30.840
a Christian on one hand, women should certainly like, if they can change up, move in a better
06:41:37.820
way, it's commendable, but I would, I would raise massive eyebrows.
06:41:43.580
If like a girl had previously slept with five, 10, 15, 20 guys relatively quickly, this is,
06:41:49.800
this doesn't even necessarily have to do to waiting till marriage.
06:41:54.320
These girls who will like have had one night stands, they've never actually had the standard
06:41:59.520
at any previous point in their life, but then they're going to now use sex as leverage
06:42:08.400
It could be, you know, you said you want the guy to pay your rent, pay your car bill, et
06:42:13.780
I kind of, while you women are free to do this, my counter advice to men is I don't
06:42:20.000
think that's an acceptable, uh, a dynamic you ought to accept.
06:42:23.820
And so what I mean by that is you shouldn't even, you should just move on to a different
06:42:28.500
That's not a girl that I think is really worth dating, to be honest.
06:42:36.160
But if you're just like some secular chick or even like sort of, uh, you know, don't really
06:42:47.640
Look, if you can find a guy that's willing to wait, that's totally cool.
06:42:51.480
But I think it's kind of a raw deal for like, oh, the past 10 that you, you fucked a dude
06:43:01.180
And now, oh, babe, I want to wait for three months.
06:43:14.640
It's just, uh, cause it's one thing if it'll be the standard for the rest of your life.
06:43:20.260
They'll, a girl will be fucking a guy, but she won't have commitment with him.
06:43:29.760
She'll be dating a guy who she sees long-term potential in while fucking him.
06:43:37.840
So while she's getting dicked down by dude, who's never going to give her commitment,
06:43:41.760
she'll be simultaneously dating a guy and making him wait and jump through hoops.
06:43:50.960
And like, so that's where it gets really ridiculous to me.
06:43:54.400
I feel like if you like him, you want to be in bed with him immediately.
06:43:57.440
Anyways, a couple of chats are going to come through.
06:44:01.780
If you took all the money spent on unnecessary plastic surgery in the history of this planet,
06:44:06.920
and the money used to fix those surgeries, everyone would have food in the world.
06:44:13.420
Yeah, the cosmetic industry, trillion dollar, uh, trillion dollar industries.
06:44:17.780
I mean, something with those, like, Ferraris and, I don't believe in that sort of thing.
06:44:26.300
Pink shirt, ghetto blonde with the smelly coochie death doesn't date Asians.
06:44:31.380
She's just attracted to the brothers for their soul and not be see the three hundred and four as a pee-pee enthusiast.
06:44:48.380
Austrian's trumpet slayer donated sixty-nine dollars.
06:44:52.200
Sex outside marriage is degenerated and sinful.
06:44:55.680
Repent and your time in purgatory may not be eternal.
06:44:58.980
Also using logic and speaking the truth is not misogyny.
06:45:17.140
Many transgender people will exclusively only date biological people.
06:45:21.220
Does that make them transphobic by their own criteria?
06:45:31.660
But, so I guess to bring it back to this, so you, uh, you were making, or you made the
06:45:43.220
I'd still like to give you an opportunity to define it just to make sure we are talking
06:45:48.320
Or did the definition that Andrew, is that sufficient?
06:45:59.460
Yeah, that's, uh, hatred or contempt for or prejudice against women.
06:46:07.220
I just think you guys, like I said earlier, it's just my same, maybe you're not misogynistic.
06:46:14.940
But, um, you know, you guys have your opinions and I have my own.
06:46:18.700
Well, okay, don't weasel out of a statement that you made.
06:46:28.520
Well, okay, so, I feel like it's, it's only fair.
06:46:33.760
I've been debating with you guys for six hours.
06:46:36.020
It's only fair since you've thrown out an accusation.
06:46:39.400
Accusations of misogyny are very, uh, very serious.
06:46:42.620
So, you ought to at least defend it instead of just, Buck, he lost and donated $72.
06:46:50.560
Question for everyone, including Brian and Andrew.
06:46:53.800
If a woman takes longer than 30 minutes to put makeup on her face with no distractions,
06:47:19.680
So, you know, I'm not going to let you weasel out of this just as easily as you just threw
06:47:27.520
So, why don't we actually have a conversation about it instead of kind of trying to weasel
06:47:57.280
Every conversation that we've kind of had tonight, which isn't necessarily misogyny, has been
06:48:02.220
So, you're like, you woman this, you woman that.
06:48:05.340
She got, oh, you woman get dicked down or whatever.
06:48:15.800
They'll make this guy wave while they're getting dicked down by this guy.
06:48:22.180
All your conversations are about women and what women are doing wrong and nothing about
06:48:36.280
And in this particular case, the context was about women who have had many sex partners
06:48:41.880
previously and then suddenly become chased with a man who they're interested in.
06:48:49.400
And Brian, who has a lot of experience talking to these women, said, oh, yeah, they do it all
06:48:54.020
A, B, C, and D. And here's the example of that.
06:48:56.880
So, he's still giving only the specific criteria to those kinds of women.
06:49:01.300
That's not a broad generalization for all women.
06:49:03.640
It's only the women specifically who are engaged in that activity.
06:49:10.280
She actually takes objection to the specific phrase of getting dicked down.
06:49:17.300
Well, it's just like, I mean, like, would you go.
06:49:24.580
You just said, why are you talking shit to bitches?
06:49:30.040
Like, you guys are like nagging on me for saying that.
06:49:32.180
But then you're like, oh, like she got dicked down.
06:49:40.840
Why women in today's society and like our thoughts.
06:49:46.720
Here's the further context for the conversation.
06:49:49.440
She wanted to talk about waiting until marriage.
06:49:55.500
I feel like there's just like other ways to say it.
06:50:01.320
To be honest, like, we didn't actually care that you said that.
06:50:09.020
If you're going to tone police, we'll tone police back.
06:50:11.480
Like, I didn't actually give a shit that you said.
06:50:22.840
Was offended when I used the term getting dicked down?
06:50:38.000
Even if any of us were offended, the definition of misogyny isn't offending a lot of women.
06:50:43.040
The definition of misogyny is having a prejudice against women.
06:50:49.820
He doesn't like these specific things, but he doesn't have a prejudice against all women.
06:50:53.920
That's why I'm just saying that all of the conversations.
06:50:55.900
So, maybe you're not misogynistic, but you know, it's definitely something going on with
06:51:09.440
I think that maybe you got a problem with, which is okay.
06:51:15.260
I mean, I got a problem with it too, and that's why I act the way.
06:51:37.940
I feel like, I don't want to accuse you of interrupting me.
06:51:42.060
No, I can take my time to answer this question if I feel like it.
06:51:46.420
Anyway, I think that you just have a problem with maybe women in today's society or like
06:51:58.420
I think you have a problem with that, and I feel like women, especially women who are
06:52:03.800
in my lane of a type of thought pattern, I feel like are more like this because we gave
06:52:11.620
a lot to men and didn't receive the best experience.
06:52:20.220
I'm not saying all men need to pay your rent or something like that, but what I am saying
06:52:25.020
is I don't feel like there's anything wrong with how I want to go about it, but I feel
06:52:32.840
And that's all I was saying earlier was it's y'all opinions.
06:52:41.240
So you said that my views on social media, again, you called us misogynists.
06:52:50.760
If you didn't hear me, I took it back three fucking times.
06:52:54.800
I said, maybe you're not misogynist, but you have an opinion.
06:52:57.840
And that's the only thing I'm like really debating with you is that.
06:53:10.980
It's just like, it's not like it doesn't make sense to you.
06:53:14.500
Oh, I was going to say, I think, yeah, like I think misogyny is, is more like stopping
06:53:19.000
someone's or not wanting someone to be able to sustain themselves and then be a woman and
06:53:23.960
That's what I think misogyny is, but I don't think, yeah, I don't.
06:53:32.000
Like you, you have what, then what are the things I've said that you have an issue with?
06:53:41.000
I just feel like it's been kind of like, I don't want to say catered toward men, but
06:53:43.880
you're like, oh, in this situation, like what percent of men, blah, blah, blah.
06:53:48.140
So you women would rather be in the forest with a bear.
06:53:51.400
Like you guys are so wrong for that because like, but like, I don't know.
06:53:53.960
It's just like people have different opinions and like how I said, like bitches, like that
06:54:01.780
Like, I feel like you're, you're very against women being like, let me get my body done.
06:54:15.740
So you said, I'm against, well, I have to interrupt you because you list out 30 different criticisms
06:54:21.800
and I can, it just, I don't know, Andrew, if you call that gish galloping or whatever,
06:54:28.740
So why don't we address this whole me being against plastic surgery?
06:54:36.800
I just, when I asked you earlier, I'm not going to keep repeating myself.
06:54:42.160
So you object to me, then you just blanketly in a general sense, just object to me being
06:54:47.000
against plastic surgery, which is fine because you're a proponent of plastic surgery.
06:54:56.260
I mean, it's not just plastic surgery, but it's whatever I said.
06:54:59.700
It's really just anything like in a feminist type of viewpoint, you don't agree with.
06:55:08.040
Like the whole body empowerment or, you know, my body, my choice, but it's actually like
06:55:25.120
I feel like we have the choice to do what we want.
06:55:29.200
So I don't think you should be able to, you know, just like somebody, I don't know the
06:55:36.580
I'm trying to think of the word, but it's just like the chick, the gal with the red hair
06:55:42.040
who's, who's sitting, you know, one, one, one gal over.
06:55:46.000
I, she's, she's actually probably far more misogynistic than Brian is.
06:55:54.720
Well, no, I think you would be considered more misogynistic than Brian.
06:55:58.460
So, I mean, you believe in original, you believe in original sin.
06:56:01.560
You believe in me are, are definitely a little bit more misogynistic than you guys are.
06:56:09.900
I think feminism is a lie to trick women into hating themselves.
06:56:34.120
The thing that you just got done saying that you didn't want to talk about at all.
06:56:39.060
Because all the show has been talking about men.
06:56:41.620
Now you're like, why don't we talk about the men?
06:56:54.020
I can't believe that all these women's issues, you keep on making it into talking about men.
06:56:59.880
And then when we get down to an issue you want to talk about, you say, I want to talk about men.
06:57:05.240
I mean, so what she was saying, she was saying something about feminism.
06:57:14.680
I do think that women are deceived with this whole feminine movement.
06:57:28.760
For no other reason than just them being women.
06:57:37.120
You do realize that you can be anti-feminist and not be a misogynist?
06:58:05.160
And I believe that women are nurturers and would be better off, you know, submitting to their
06:58:11.260
So then is it wrong for me to not want to submit to a man unless he's providing for me?
06:58:23.900
And women should submit to their husbands and nurture the children.
06:58:37.220
And I don't feel like there's anything wrong with that.
06:58:38.900
And I feel like it's wrong to sit here and call me a prostitute for that.
06:58:48.540
There's an emotional level of taking care of me.
06:58:56.020
I'm going to untie a couple of concepts for you.
06:59:05.840
Not for the idea that you want to be taken care of by a man.
06:59:13.260
Before he even knew I had OnlyFans, he called me a sex worker.
06:59:33.620
So, to untangle the concepts for you, concept one, yes, if you're an OnlyFans worker, you're
06:59:45.520
But when it came to the relationship, what was asserted to you was if it's only transactional,
06:59:53.160
if the relationship is purely transactional, then it would be prostitution.
06:59:57.540
And I said multiple times it wasn't transactional.
06:59:59.940
Yeah, I know, which is why we weren't calling you a prostitute for that.
07:00:03.840
We were just saying if it were purely transactional, that would be prostitution.
07:00:09.940
He said earlier I had sugar daddies and da-da-da, which I said, no, I don't have...
07:00:15.540
Well, I wasn't here for that part of the conversation.
07:00:17.440
So, when he called me a sex worker earlier before he even knew I had an OnlyFans or anything
07:00:22.020
like that, then by what you guys are saying, I'm not.
07:00:27.400
Yeah, well, I wasn't here for that conversation then because I didn't hear him mention anything
07:00:32.580
about sugar daddies to you while I was here anyway.
07:00:35.320
Well, I think it's funny that when we put it in a certain sense of like in almost like
07:00:40.660
a religious standpoint, all of a sudden it's okay.
07:00:42.940
But when I was saying it earlier in a different standpoint, because I'm not the most religious
07:00:47.320
person, now all of a sudden I'm a sex worker and I have sugar daddies and all this crazy
07:00:52.820
I didn't say anything about you having sugar daddies.
07:00:57.400
No, what I'm saying is that if you have a relationship with a man which is purely transactional,
07:01:04.160
you're only getting resources in exchange for sex, I don't know what to call that except
07:01:09.640
Yeah, and I said multiple times that it wasn't purely transactional.
07:01:14.920
Which is why I didn't call you a prostitute for that.
07:01:21.220
You called me a sex worker and you said I had sugar daddies earlier before you even
07:01:25.540
I asked you when we were talking about your whole relationship thing and you wanting to
07:01:29.180
wait until a guy starts providing, et cetera, et cetera.
07:01:32.640
I asked you something along the lines of, look, we've talked a lot.
07:01:45.760
Yeah, and I said I'm not out working on a corner.
07:02:05.280
And I want to submit to my man, but I want to be taken care of and I want him to provide
07:02:19.640
I understand I didn't say the word submit earlier, but that doesn't mean that's not what
07:02:29.660
It'd be very hard to get rid of somebody who's doing everything to me.
07:02:32.560
You said something along the lines of, I will not have sex with a man until he pays my bills.
07:02:42.120
I don't know if that's verbatim, the way that came out, I will not have sex with a
07:03:06.100
No, then you made it going back to your, you know, whatever it is that you're doing on
07:03:10.420
this podcast, like, trying to mm-mm to women who feel some type of way or who believe in
07:03:32.600
I'm just saying, how is, like, her wanting her bills to be paid?
07:03:35.480
Wait, I kind of want to change up the seating arrangement really quick.
07:03:37.960
Wait, so, okay, I just, I don't know, because I'm...
07:03:44.440
I want you and you, can you guys take those seats, and then I'm going to put you in that
07:04:01.900
So, you sit in that seat, you sit in that seat, and I'm going to move you into that.
07:04:12.880
All right, I'm going to let a couple chats go through.
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She doesn't know anything besides her friend talking for her to make sure she don't look
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Why is it the blonde lady's doing all the screaming?
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I want to hear the Latina lady, and she's the only one I need in my life.
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Imagine the ignorance for a woman to choose a bear.
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Whereas a man's natural instinct is to protect the woman.
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Brian, how dare you invite these women on and not pander to them and a dollar kiss them
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Don't you know you're supposed to coddle them and make them feel special?
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Amanda underscore the underscore medtech donated $69.
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You try to assert your dominance by talking over everyone else.
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It's not much of a mystery why you're single TBA.
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Like if they kind of bullied the girl if they liked it.
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One is unnecessary mutilation with health consequences.
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My point was if you're going to donate to charity.
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He said, oh, why would you spend $10,000 on a BBO and you could donate to charity?
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Then why would you buy a $60,000 car if you could donate that to charity?
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Andrew, before we do the Bumble segment, did you want to touch on anything?
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Wait, Andrew, why are you making that face, Andrew?
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How many of those are from the whatever podcast?
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At the beginning of the show, she said that, like, over a hundred people from the podcast
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So going around the table, what's your body count?
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My boyfriend, who I had for one year and a half, and then I spoke on the last podcast,
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how I was sort of in a situationship and, like, I don't know.
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I had sex with him and I thought that would make him stay, but no.
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I feel weird sharing that online, but it's single digits.
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These women's inability to prescind or using basic logic makes me more angry than Brian calling me Australian.
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Listen, why don't you go get some Vegemite and put it on some bratwurst.
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I'm in misogynistic for not catering to your needs, PC.
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You bring nothing to the table besides nonsense.
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Multiply it by three and that's the real number.
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Multiply it by three and that's the real number.
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But that's why, hey, I brought math to the table.
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I just must have thought it was three or something.
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We're going to show you some eligible bachelors,
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Can I, question, can I, I don't like to say no without a reason.
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Because I don't want people to feel like I'm rejecting them.
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Because I just don't want to seem like I'm just, like,
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If it's the one with the blue shirt, I might let him take me on a date.
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Wait, did she say yes to, did you say yes to anybody?
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Yeah, you get, if you don't say yes to anybody, you get an extra 10.
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Oh, I thought it was a high school with him, too.
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You know, my mom told me she got bullied for that in high school, and that was a trend.
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It was probably more than 50, but we'll just say, so one out of 50, so that's two, she
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Oh, it's not that I didn't find them attractive.
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Like, the other guy gave a cool vibe, but he just, like, I don't know.
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Like, I just have to get a certain vibe, and that guy.
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So let's start looks, and then we'll do, like, personality, other things.
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Well, looks for me, like, looks obviously play a part.
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Like, if I have a really good smile, like, that gets me.
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And then personality-wise, like, someone funny.
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Like, one was Israeli, one was white, and one was black.
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I've liked, honestly, like, I like taller guys.
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But, like, honestly, like, height, like, it's not that deep.
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So when you say you like taller guys, what's the bare minimum height for a guy?
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But, like, I don't know, I look like guys who are, like, I don't know, if they're, like, 6'0", that's, I guess, what I, like, ballpark for.
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But, I mean, I've dated a guy who was, like, 5'8", and I didn't have a problem with that.
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Well, of your three boyfriends, I don't know if you recall their heights, did you?
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One was 6'5", one was 5'10", and then one was, he had to be, like, probably, like, yeah, like, 5'8", 5'9".
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Personality-wise, I just like someone who can, like, make me.
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But scoot it this way, because you end up getting your face blocked.
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Like, if I can really vibe out with someone and, like, just click with them, I think that's my favorite part about dating, honestly, is finding someone who I can, like.
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I don't, like, go by the, like, the caretaker role specific.
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My mom, like, she grew up, like, she made everything herself, and, like, I had my dad.
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They're not together anymore, but, like, I mean, she literally, like, she's built from nothing into something, and I'm the same way.
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Like, I don't want a man to have to provide for me.
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I want to be able to provide for myself if he wants to help, which I would hope he would help.
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I don't need him to do all the work for me, basically.
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Um, well, usually, like, whoever I'm with, I don't see them as average.
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I mean, even if someone else could say that they were average, like, whoever I'm with, I'm with them because I don't think that they're average.
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Or, at least, every time, like, I'm with someone, I'm like, oh, like, this is the coolest person in the world.
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Have you ever met a guy who you have really good chemistry with and they actually ended up being terrible, a terrible person?
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So maybe, would you agree then that perhaps chemistry is not the best thing to.
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I think he, people switch up for sure and he definitely switched up.
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But I think there were other things that came into factor, like going through stuff and stuff like that.
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Do you think that there should be, like, some degree of reciprocity in terms of relationships?
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So, like, if a man, for example, wants a woman who is a virgin, he should also be a virgin.
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Or if a man wants a girl with a low body count, he should have a low body count?
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Yeah, I don't like double standards because I noticed, like, even, like, my guy friends are all like, oh, like, I want a girl with a super low body count, but they have, like, a body count of, like, 60.
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So you object to the desiring a trait in a partner that they don't possess themselves?
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Like, I'd have to, like, come into more examples, but in general, I don't really think so.
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Because I'm, like, I'm pretty, like, even, I'd say.
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I mean, not right now because I have two brain cells left.
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Well, I mean, even earlier on in the show, I don't think your personality has changed a whole bunch.
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I acknowledge you might be a bit tired at this point.
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You want a guy who's funny, who can make you laugh.
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Do you think you're funny in the same way that you want men to be funny?
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I don't want to, like, toot my own horn, but I've been told I've been funny.
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So on the charismatic front, I don't know if somebody wants to tell her, I'm not saying this to be mean, you're not charismatic.
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And I find that that's a bit of a double standard, don't you think?
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Wait, were you one of the people that said if, I'm just, I don't remember.
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Were you one of the people that said if a guy came up to you and was all shaky and nervous?
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So in that situation, she says, I'd be fine with a guy who was nervous and shy and et cetera, et cetera.
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That doesn't mean he doesn't have charisma, though.
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No, once you get to know someone like that, like if your husband was super shy when he met and then you found out later that he ended up being super charismatic.
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I mean, he could be charismatic once you get to know someone.
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So you think a guy who's super nervous and shy and shaky, is that good Riz or bad Riz?
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I guess stereotypically speaking, it wouldn't be good Riz, but I've dated a guy like that.
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There can be a difference between being objectively charismatic and you enjoying his personality.
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Maybe that's not the word I'm looking for, but like enjoying their personality.
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Well, you did say that you consider yourself to be charismatic.
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That's confidence is a different word than charismatic.
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Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
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I mean, I've been told that I'm charismatic by people.
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Like maybe not here because we're in like a vicious debate like all night.
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Some people have like told you that you're charismatic.
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But like usually people that I like end up being friends with, they'll be like, oh, like, yeah.
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Like when you walk into a room and like you light it up and stuff.
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I don't know if you guys have ever seen like a girl's Instagram page.
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If you look at the comments, it's literally just all girls gasp.
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And the girl could be like obese and you will still see comments.
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I feel like it's kind of dangerous to just make, just take people at their word sometimes when it comes to puffery or.
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knotrikes underscore is underscore hot underscore af donated twenty five dollars
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shout out to the girls in the back that showed up on time were professional and respectful the whole show but got little to no mic time
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you know shout out w w's in the chat mute girls well she had like w's in the chat she had what she had a funeral like oh wait what what like no like that's not i don't know like it's okay that we showed up on time but it's like she didn't show up on time because she had a funeral like
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okay uh yo blah blah blah your message is i think i might have to censor this one dude it's a little uh you're gonna have to resubmit it i apologize man
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donated twenty five dollars to the girl in the back middle eye like your tattoos
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the blah blah blah one i'll read part the part that i can at least i'm not going to totally throw you under the bus here
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circumcision is nothing more than genital mutilation
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any publicly cited benefit is a completely fraudulent claim
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an american love story in front of a live harvard audience
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okay okay thank you bro uh i am definitely some of these girls said that it's a deal breaker if the guy is
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uncut and i actually want i kind of wanted to go into that earlier on in the show but
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that's where you get to know them and make sure they're clean
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you don't want my okay i should have called you a non-christian but i should have said maybe leave more
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lastly a woman preferring a man cut is the pinnacle of female privilege because it's mostly based on aesthetic preference not principle or reason cut men are more likely to have ed
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up he are aquatic donated twenty five dollars wrong andrew has turned my life to christ after a life of sinning and so many others and i haven't never heard of you ever and stop tone policing hash the crucible
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tom jones donated twenty five dollars i fucking love andrew's diction i've learned a lot from him he is fucking awesome if i were there i would give him a big fucking fist bump
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so am i allowed to smoke should i smoke as a christian light austrian's trumpet slayer donated twenty five dollars light it up
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give him permission to live in the darkness whilst its leaves wave in the sun and to those who suspect naught
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i have been a fairly secular christian my entire life
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since watching andrew i have been seriously considering catholicism
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to be fair no real christians would watch the show it's secular
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i just want to say thx for opening my eyes in the dating and you have an awesome pod
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red is the epitome of why the church is devolving into blasphemy
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you have done a real service to the world by being gentle and understanding
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brian and i maining destroy warlock in war within
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uh i mean i i uh i don't play world of warcraft anymore i used to
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okay what about eating a jelly donut is that a sin
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also do you believe scripture doesn't say you shouldn't curse
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Andrew likes to rub his fat titties on brains dumpy.
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All right, Nick, we're going to raid WoeGrandma78.
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Gentlemen, you need to get this guy to 100,000 subscribers
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He stayed up very late so that he could argue with these fine...
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And so, guys, you need to get him to 100,000 subscribers.
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We're going to do a raid here in just a moment to his channel.
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We were going to have Natalie Winters, but her flight got...
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There was a flight issue, so she will be there on Tuesday.
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What are some other reasons why you should go subscribe to him?
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Like, the way he smokes cigarettes is really cool.
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That I'm not going to drive you hundreds of miles away,
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leave you stranded at a gas station to steal your luggage.
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I can't wait to go home and watch the new season of House of the Dragon Boys.
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Thank you to everyone who soup chats, donates, supports the show.
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We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram
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If you're watching over on Twitch, drop us a follow.
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She's on a crazy sleep schedule, but she's a fucking legend.
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She actually only sleeps like two hours a night because she's a fucking giga...
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So I'm going to start the raid here in just a moment.
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She's got like a couple hundred, 200 followers.
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Before we send you over, be sure to follow the whatever channel.
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Drop us a prime sub on the way out if you have one.
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See, this is where I disagree with Whoa Grandma.
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She's switching around her talents on the cast bar.
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I don't think we're going to get any attention from her, so...
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Unfortunately, she did not notice us senpai or whatever the fuck.
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We'll let these come through, and then we will wrap.
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Celebrating men who raise children instead of Degens and the mentally...
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Brian, thank you for being the anti-Degen podcast.
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This is the unbreakable litany, and may it forever be so.
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One of our longer shows, probably the second longest show ever, I think.
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I'm not going to try to make this a habit, boys, but it was an interesting panel.
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Am I forgetting anything, Nick, or are we good to go?
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I want to double check that I have the redirect going to Andrew.
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You guys are legends for being troopers and making it to the very end.
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He went down to the mean streets of Santa Barbara to go grab someone off the street because we had the no-shows.
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So, on one hand, thank you, Nick, but also not thank you, I guess.
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And then, of course, Nick, you know, I was kind of...
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I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.
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And, you know, I get a little worked up when no-shows happen.
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You know, he's trying to make some money on the side, boys.