CONFRONTING Daisy Chen？! ROAST Episode! Andrew Wilson! Are They VICTIMS？! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ｜ Dating Talk #160
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7 hours and 13 minutes
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168.5362
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, host Brian Atlas sits down with two of his good friends to talk about their experiences in the dating world, how they got into the game, and what they're doing to change the culture.
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and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your
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name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead. Hi, everyone. My name is Daisy. I'm 28. I'm from China
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and I live in New York City right now. And I work with a plastic surgeon and I'm a model.
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What part of China are you from? Shanghai. Shanghai. Okay. And how, like you born there,
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grew up there? Yeah, I was growing in a city that's like four hours drive by Shanghai. I grew up in
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Shanghai. And you said, oh, go ahead. So I recently just moved to USA. I'm planning to stay, so. Okay. And
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you said you work for a plastic surgeon? Plastic surgeons. Yeah, I'm a plastic surgery broker,
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if that makes sense. So you procure... Like I connect my clients with surgeons. Okay. Yeah. And
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have you yourself, you've... Yeah, I've done many. You've done many? Yeah. How many surgeries would
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you say you've done? Uh, I don't really remember, but the major one is my breast and my nose,
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eyeliner, lip injections, stuff like that. The eye, so the eyeliner, is it like tattooed on or... No,
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it's not tattooed, like, because we have small eyeliner, Asian girls. Oh, eyeliner. Yeah. So
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they just do a procedure so I could have bigger eyes, but you know, it's not, it's not like huge
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difference. Okay. But yeah, the, it's my nose. I see. Okay. All right. Uh, well, welcome. What about
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you? I'm Noelle. I am 24 years old. I am from California and I am a scientific analyst. All right.
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Welcome. Thank you. I'm Destiny. Um, I am 22 years old. I'm also from California and I work in
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commission sales, selling, um, a cookware product. All right. Welcome. Thank you. Hi, I'm Kelly. I am
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22 and I'm a personal stylist and social media influencer. And I am going to school to study
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communications as well. And where are you from? Los Angeles. Los Angeles. Okay. Welcome back. Thanks.
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What about you? Hi, my name is Christine. I'm 20 years old. I'm from California and I am a student
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at UCSB. What are you studying? Uh, economics. Economics. Okay. Welcome. Uh, hello. My name
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is Latsiri. Um, I'm currently a student, um, and I work in commission sales too. Age? Uh, 19. All right.
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Welcome. Hola. Um, me amo Gustavo. Tengo 23 años. Mucho gusto. Ah, si. Thank you. Thank you. Uh,
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Madison. My name is Madison. I'm 19 years old. I'm from San Diego, California. I currently work
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for the Whatever Podcasts and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College studying communication.
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All right. Welcome everybody. Last but not least, my Caucasian, Andrew Wilson. Go ahead.
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Yeah. My name is Andrew Wilson. I am the host of the one and only Crucible Fastest Growing Debate
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Channel on the internet. Um, I am a blood support debater, political analyst, and also a political
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satirist. And you can find me there. All right. Welcome, Andrew. So what we're going to do now,
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we're going to go around the table once more. So what is everybody's current relationship status?
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So, you're single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,
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polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it is. If you're single, how long have you been single?
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And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? I'm single.
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Uh, how long have you been single for? How long? Since March. Since March. Okay. What's the longest
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relationship you've ever been in? Nine months. Nine months. Okay. How long ago was that nine-month
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relationship? That was like my first boyfriend since 19. When you were 19? Yeah, when I was 19. And
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you're 28 now. So from pretty much from 20 to 28, would you say you've not really had any long-term
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relationships? I did. I did. But it's just like not longer than nine months. The longest was six
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months. Okay. Gotcha. For the nine-month relationship, who ended that? Was it you? Was it him? Was it
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mutual? It was me. It was you. Okay. Why did, why did you break up with him? Because I was like kind
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of young. I was in school and he's from America. I lived in Shanghai. He wanted to get married,
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but I was too young. I wanted to explore my life. So I told him like, I'm not able to do
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it. So that's why. Okay. Yeah. So it was long distance. It wasn't. He lived in Shanghai. Oh,
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okay. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Well, we'll get into your other, uh, other one in a little
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bit, but what about you? I am single. I have been single since March. You've been single
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since March also. Okay. So single for about, let's say two months. Longest relationship?
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Almost four years. Four years. Okay. And why did that one, why did your four-year relationship
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end? He cheated on me. He cheated on you? Okay. And then the two-month relationship, or the,
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excuse me, the one that ended two months ago, why did that one end? So I was engaged.
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Um, wait, you were engaged as recently as two months ago? Yeah. How long were you dating
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this guy? Like two months. So he had proposed on Valentine's day and that was very soon for
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me. Cause we only had been together for like two months. And then when I went to Utah to
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visit my sisters, we were going to go wedding dress shopping. And then I discovered that he
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was stepping out on me. And then I found one of his accounts where he was only following
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like AI, like, can I say it? Like AI girls? Like porn. Oh yeah. So I was like, no, thank
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you. Okay. So the most recent guy cheated on you, your four-year relationship cheated on
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you. Of all the relationships have you, that you've had, have they all involved in fidelity?
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Every single one of them has cheated on me. Do you have any, uh, suspicions as to why
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that might be? That seems a bit disproportionate that all your relate, they all, they're all
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cheating on you. It's probably my choice in men. I could take accountability for that,
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but it's lack of sexual discipline. It has nothing to do with me. Like all of my relationships
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were very peaceful and happy. I never argued in my relationships unless it was bringing up
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the cheating. So I think they were just, you know, lack of sexual discipline and they were
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dissatisfied. Did they ever, like when you talked to them about it, did they ever tell you
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why they cheated? I didn't, when I find out, I don't care why. I'm just like, you know,
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we're done. Leave it at that. Sure. Okay. What about you? Um, I am in a relationship and
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I have been in that relationship for two years, a little over two years now, two years. And
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my longest relationship was three years prior to this one. All right. How did you meet your
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current boyfriend? Um, I just met him at the gym. I wasn't actually looking for a relationship.
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I had, I was living in Toronto and I was just visiting my family. Um, are you, are you from
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Canada? I'm from, um, California, but I moved out there for university. Oh, interesting. Yeah. You
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moved, you moved to Canada where you, was it a scholarship or? Um, well there was a, there
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was my ex. He was, he's Canadian. Oh, he's from, okay. So you wanted to be closer. Yeah. It was
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during COVID and, um, sure. You know, the borders closed down. So I moved out there to be with
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him. All right. Kelly, what about you? Um, I am not single. I am in a two and like four
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month relationship and this is my longest one too. All right. And before the show, you
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said that you, uh, you have the past. Can you tell us about that? Uh, no. Come on. No,
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it was a funny anecdote. It was a, yeah. You want me to say it? Have you never met my
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boyfriend? No. No. Okay. You should just meet him. Okay. You should just meet him. Yeah.
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Seriously. Should, should I tell the story though? No. It's funny. Come on. Well, I won't,
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if you don't want to, that's fine. Yeah. It just makes sense. If you just met my boyfriend,
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it would. No, I'm not. I don't have any issues with the scenario. It's just a funny scenario.
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No, it's okay. Yeah. You should share it. No. All right. That's fine. That's fine. Uh,
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what about you? Um, I am single. My last relationship ended in February. So yeah.
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February. Uh, how long were you in that relationship for? Um, one and a half years.
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Was it long distance? Yeah. Yeah. Kind of. Well, you go to UCSB, right? Yeah. And he went to UCLA.
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UCLA. Okay. So not too far. Yeah. Are you originally from, did you say you're originally from LA?
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No, I'm originally from San Francisco. Oh, up North. Okay. Um,
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and so why did it end? Who broke up with who? Um,
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he broke up with me, but it was going to end. Like I just,
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like we were both weren't really feeling the relationship anymore.
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It was just, you both weren't feeling the relationship or like, I guess I wasn't,
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but it's a little complicated. Why is it complicated? Um,
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because I wasn't feeling the relationship anymore. Then, um,
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no, wait, I didn't, um, I wasn't feeling it anymore. And then, um, I like didn't break up,
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break it off. Um, when I should have, and then, um,
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um, so there's a little crossover maybe with, uh, another individual.
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What was, did you have a sense that he might've been seeing somebody else too or?
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No. Okay. Um, but yeah, definitely my fault. I was in the wrong.
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Um, so you, you said you ended it? No, then he found out and then he ended it. Okay. Yeah.
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How often would you guys see each other? Cause you said he goes to UCLA. You were,
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we would see each other like weekends. Yeah. On the weekends.
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Every weekend or kind of like every other weekend or, um, every other weekend.
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More often than not, would you go there or would he come to see you? Um, well,
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I had a single, so I have a single, so he'd come here. Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah. Like a, your own apartment or you just had a single bedroom?
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Oh, like my own apartment. Yeah. Oh, okay. I see. And he had,
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he was in a triple or something. Like he had roommates and yeah. Okay. So he would come to see
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you. Um, and are you, are you involved like the, this other guy, are you involved with him currently?
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No. Okay. Um, so in that, in the three month period that you've been single, any other
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dating prospects, anything more casual, short term? No, I not, just not interested. Everyone
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here's no, it's not it. Well, so the other guy that was kind of in the picture, was this
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like a short term thing or what happened there? Um, it was a frat party and yeah, I just like
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we were just, I don't know. I didn't really like spring break happened and then we didn't talk.
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And so then just, yeah, like me and this other guy just like stopped talking after spring break
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just cause like, we saw each other like, yeah. Okay. We, so we were seeing each other
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spring quarter and because we had the same class and then we didn't have the same class
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anymore. And so, yeah. Frat guy? Yeah. Are you in the sorority? No. No sorority? Okay.
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All right. Um, okay. Well maybe we can talk about that a bit more later. Uh, what about
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you? Um, I've been single for about three years. My longest relationship was a year and
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the reason we broke up was because of his cheating. He was cheating? Yeah. Okay. All right.
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Good times. A lot of cheating, I guess. Uh, Gustavo? Married to whatever podcast.
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Okay. Matt. I'm luckily in a relationship. Um, my current one is my longest. It's been a year
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and eight months. All right. Sweet. Um, Andrew Wilson, what about you? I'm, uh, happily married,
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have been for well over a decade. All right. Cool. And then Brian loves roast beef labia donated
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$200. Ladies, would any of you date Brian? Sorry, Brian. I know you like fresh off the boat
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Asian women, but Daisy only likes BBC. Your average white clock ain't gonna cut it. Uh, Daisy
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length for girth. Uh, by the way, I'm a fan of this sub of the, okay. And it's not true.
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I don't know if he's talking about the, the subreddit or if he's talking about like the, I'm a fan
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anyway. Oh, of, of, of both of length or girth? No, I mean, Reddit. No, but like the actual
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question. Both. Who doesn't, I mean, who doesn't, right? So, okay. I guess, I guess we'll do it.
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Okay. Uh, would any of you, would any of you date me? I guess everybody would. Why not?
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Oh, okay. Um, you can be, you can be super honest. I already know your type. So like I
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wouldn't, what's my type? You like, you're pretty Asian women. Hold on. I like white women. I'll date
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any race. Okay. Date any race. I mean, what races have you dated? Yeah. White, Latina, Asian.
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But which one did you date the most? I think I had a short, very short-term thing with a black woman
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once. I live in Santa Barbara. Okay. You can't fault me. There's like no black people here. Okay. It's not my
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fault. But, uh, yeah. I don't discriminate. I agree with your values. Pacific Islander.
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Throw me a Pacific Islander. She would date you. Oh, okay. There you go. All right. What
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about you? I wouldn't. Rip. Hi. Kelly. Nar. Is it because I'm white? You're such a racist
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girl. No, it's not because you're white. Sure. Sure. Okay. What about you? No. Rip. Is it
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because I'm white? No. What? What's the reason? Old. Too old. Yeah. I'm a boomer. That's fine.
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How old are you? Huh? How old are you? 34. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People tell me. Nevermind.
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Okay. Yeah. What about you? No. You're like my dad's age. What the fuck? Your dad's young.
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Yeah. Gustavo? Si. Mucho. He'd date me. There we go. He's married to you. Thank you. He's
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married. All right. Um, thank you for that, for that one. Um, okay. So I'm trying to think
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where we, let me actually really, and we'll come back to the chat. I think, uh, we're all
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caught up on everything, right, Nick? Okay. So we're going to just, uh, get into some pre-show
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notes here. Actually, no, I have a quick, I have a quick question for the whole panel. Um, who
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here is religious? I don't know what's the definition of religious. Like, are you
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Christian? Uh, I'm Buddhism. Buddhist. Yeah. Okay. Buddhist. Okay. I am a Christian. All
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right. Um, I go to church and I go to a Catholic church, but, um, I'm not like a
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hundred percent, like, I don't know, I guess religious. Like I just, I go to church and
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I try to be a good person and have a good relationship with God, but I don't
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believe every single thing that every role Catholicism has. Okay. Um, I am a
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Christian. I am not religious. What, so, like, atheist, agnostic, Satan, Satanist?
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No. Satanist? I don't really have a stance or anything. Sure. I don't know. Um, I was
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born Catholic, but I'm not religious. I'm Christian. All right. Cool. So, let me see
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here. Uh, let's, uh, just get into, let's get right into it. Um, trying to think here.
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Do you guys hear that, like, old-timey music? It's kind of nice. You can leave the door open.
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All right. So, uh, got some pre-show notes from Daisy. Uh, actually, first thing, Daisy,
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you said you've done, like, you've had, you work for a plastic surgeon. You've had quite
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a bit of plastic surgery done. Um, just out of curiosity, because sometimes very often
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on the show, we talk about makeup, plastic surgery. Yeah. I'm always curious, like, how
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did people look before? Like, do you have any photos of you? Like, no plastic surgery
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at all? I do, but... None. Are you, could we, would you send them to us for us to look
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at? Yeah, I would. Not, like, for the show? For the show? Yeah. Right now? Yeah, we could,
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do you have your, for the phone? Yeah, I could. I could. I don't mind. I mean, it's not just
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a plastic surgery makes you look different. Uh-huh. You have, you got to work on your
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body as well. Sure, yeah. Right? You can work out. And the makeup. Yeah. The style,
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everything. Sure. So, like, I'm talking, like, Daisy at 20 versus Daisy now at 28. Yeah.
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Like, when did you start getting plastic surgery? Uh, I got my first surgery when I was, uh,
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2018, probably. Okay. Like, my eye, eyes. Eyes. Okay. I've done my eye three times. You've
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done your eyes three times. Yeah. Press three times. Three times? Yeah. Damn. So, do you,
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are you saying, like, you go... I just upgrade them. Like, bigger? Yeah, bigger. And it's
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very common in China, you guys. Every girl gets their work done. In China? Yeah. I think
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it's common everywhere now. In China, in Korea, Middle East, it's very common. Because when
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I said that before, on the other shows, they were, like, roasting me, you know? Who was
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roasting? Everybody was roasting me because, oh, she ugly before, because she have done plastic
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surgery. Her body's all fake. That's not true. They were saying that you looked worse before
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the plastic surgery. I look, uh, they were saying that I look good right now because I've done
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all the work. Okay. Because I typically tend to make the argument that people look better
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before the plastic surgery. I want to know what people look like years after the plastic
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surgery. Yeah. So, if you want Daisy, blast to the Instagram. Send one at a time if you
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want any photos. And maybe we'll let the chat decide. Okay. Better before plastic surgery?
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Better after. I'll try to find it. Let's see. It's going to take some time. You guys go
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ahead. That's fine. I'll, I'll ask another question. Then we'll come back to the, the main
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topic at hand. Going to Noelle here, you said you were raised in a very traditional, strict
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Mormon household. Yes, very strict. Now, you're no longer Mormon, though. Is that correct?
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No, I'm not Mormon. You, you said you're Christian? Christian, yeah. And you didn't say
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Catholic. You're not Catholic. No, no. Okay, just Christian. What denomination? I'm, like,
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non-denominational. Non-denominational. Okay. So, I follow Jesus and God. I don't follow
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a denomination. Okay. I don't congregate. You said also you do not consider yourself a feminist.
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You wanted to speak on traditional relationships, marriages, and the importance of it. You'd also,
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so what was your take on traditional relationships and marriages and the importance of them? I think
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nuclear family and traditional marriages are, like, extremely crucial in our society in terms of, like,
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raising kids and populating the world, keeping STD rates down, and, you know, being happy. I think
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most people will get ultimate fulfillment of joy through nuclear family, and most of the people that
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I know that have children's, or children say that that's their main source of joy, like, true joy is
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through having children. Sure. You know, kids need a father and a mother to raise them to get that
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good balance of feminist values and, like, masculine values. Wait, hold on. When you say the good balance
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of feminist? I meant feminine. Do you mean feminine? Yeah, feminine. Okay. You said that you also wanted to
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speak on monogamy. Yes. The science behind it and why it's not feminine or empowering to sleep around.
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Did you want to elaborate on that at all? Yeah, so I think monogamy is very important. You know,
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it's not necessarily healthy to sleep with a bunch of different people in a short period of time,
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and that is one thing that has contributed to STD rates. They're super high right now,
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and it's because people aren't monogamous anymore. They're not getting married, and they're just,
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you have girls that are sleeping with a new dude every week,
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and that's kind of why dating is not working out. It's wild out there in the streets.
00:24:22.460
Literally the streets. In the streets, it's wild. You said when you were 21, you were living in the
00:24:26.260
bay, I assume the San Francisco Bay. You were on your own. You met your boyfriend at work. You
00:24:32.060
ended up allowing him to move in. You would drive to him, or excuse me, you would drive him to and
00:24:38.160
from work every day, and it was an hour drive there and back. This is a story from last time. Did we
00:24:43.020
already go over this? Yeah, this was from last time. He didn't pay rent. That's fine. Yeah.
00:24:46.620
Didn't pay rent. I'm just going over this just while we give Daisy here a bit of time. He didn't
00:24:51.680
pay for groceries, didn't provide. He leeched off you and ended up catching him cheating as well.
00:24:56.880
Yes. This was not the four-year relationship deal, was it? No, no, no. This was the third
00:25:01.060
relationship. How many relationships would you say you've had? I've been in five now. Five. In the span of
00:25:05.860
nine years. Does that include our dear friend? No, that was a brief dating. Brief thing. Not even a
00:25:12.720
title. Okay. So has every single guy cheated on you, basically? Yes, yes. I think the majority of
00:25:22.140
men and some women are cheating nowadays, just because with social media and how dating has
00:25:26.960
changed. All right. Let's see. You wanted to talk about laws on infidelity and abortion.
00:25:32.280
I didn't say abortion, but infidelity, yes. Well, this might have been from your previous
00:25:36.500
time you were on. And you also wanted to talk about the importance of nuclear family, raising
00:25:42.780
children, monogamy. But laws on infidelity and abortion, so would you be in favor of, for
00:25:48.720
example, like somehow criminalizing cheating, infidelity? Yeah, absolutely. Within the confines
00:25:53.160
of marriage or even in just any long-term relationship? I think in just like a civil relationship, probably
00:25:59.580
like a fine of some sort, like how there is in other countries. But in terms of marriage-
00:26:03.800
Other countries have fines for non-married infidelity? Cheating, I guess? Yeah. I'm pretty
00:26:09.520
sure China has a law on that. Which country? China. China? Is this true, Daisy? Confirm or
00:26:14.440
deny? Does China have a law against cheating in a relationship? Sort of. Like if a guy cheats
00:26:25.520
on their wife, if the wife wants to divorce, so there's kind of like financial, how to say
00:26:36.440
like? It's like a fine. Like they pay. Yeah, the guy pays more. Well, there actually is something,
00:26:42.480
and maybe Andrew, if you can help just looking this up. There is something actually in some
00:26:47.340
U.S. states where it's, I'm trying to think, there's a specific legal term. This typically
00:26:53.420
involves married couple. A spouse can actually go after the third party that's sort of making
00:27:02.160
the cheating happen. There's a specific legal term for this. Alienation of... Any thoughts
00:27:16.380
on that, Andrew? There's a specific legal term. It's only in some states, though. You can
00:27:20.700
actually sue the person that, the cheating partner, I guess. Any luck? I'm not aware of
00:27:30.480
what the law is called. Alien, I think it's alienation of affection. Somebody in the chat
00:27:35.020
is saying. Alienation of affection. And it is a civil, I don't think it's criminal, but I
00:27:43.060
think you can bring a civil claim against somebody. Yeah, I just sent. You sent it? Did you send
00:27:48.660
them individually, by the way? Yeah, I did. Okay, perfect. Thank you, Daisy. So, but going
00:27:53.700
back to you, Noelle, so okay, you think should be, what about criminal penalty? I think it
00:27:59.640
should be criminal. So going around the table, do you guys think that there should be a criminal
00:28:02.780
penalty for cheating? And maybe it's a misdemeanor and like a non-married couple and a felony
00:28:09.540
if you're married. Going around the table, starting with you, Daisy, what do you think?
00:28:15.920
Well, I think so, because I think if a man, like, if they want to cheat, I think it's okay to sleep
00:28:21.600
with other women, but I'd prefer you be honest. What? Wait, you, oh, you're, you're, so you're cool
00:28:27.540
with if a dude. Yeah. As long as they're up front with it. Let's be honest, like one guy sleeping
00:28:32.980
with one woman for the entire of his life, I don't believe that. Just not me. Do you think it's the
00:28:37.920
same for women? Like, could you see yourself sleeping with just one guy? Yeah, because
00:28:41.820
feeling fades away, especially sex, sexually. So you're fine with it if the guy has other
00:28:48.220
women? Yeah. Okay. Just be honest. I, I think it should be criminalized. Criminalized? Straight
00:28:52.960
to jail? Um, I haven't thought that deep into it, but something should be done about
00:28:57.660
it. Okay. So, um, and it should go both ways. If the woman cheats, what if it's just
00:29:05.640
like a hand job? Like, should that, is that like less? I actually have a question about
00:29:09.000
this. So maybe you can, maybe you can like confirm. You're like itching yourself like
00:29:13.760
you're a fucking like crack. I itch myself. Crack. What's that? Dave Chappelle? Like
00:29:19.700
he's all like, okay, sorry. Go ahead, Madison. Go ahead. So I heard in France, S-ing the D
00:29:25.580
is not cheating. My French friends told me that. France is, I'm, I was born in France.
00:29:33.580
Yeah, is that true? I don't know. I don't keep tabs on the dick sucking laws in France,
00:29:37.840
but, uh, France has really interesting kind of social views on, um, kind of dating relationships
00:29:46.000
and stuff. It's a little different. It's a little more, uh, open, I guess. I don't know.
00:29:51.980
Like mistresses are a bit more tolerated, I guess. But anyways, um, so straight to jail,
00:29:59.360
felony. Yeah. Even if it's a hand job, what's that? I said, even if it's a hand job, even a handy.
00:30:04.240
Yeah. Anything sexual, whether it's a primary sex organ or a secondary sex organ, anything
00:30:08.900
involving. And you're fine with, you're fine with divorce, right? I like, I would never like,
00:30:15.060
for example, Catholics. I know you're not Catholic. They're against divorce.
00:30:18.060
I mean, I'm against divorce to an extent. I think the only exception would be like severe
00:30:22.500
abuse or infidelity. Okay. What if, what the, what if the wife, like it's a dead bedroom
00:30:28.920
relationship and she no longer wants like has sex with her husband, would that be grounds
00:30:35.160
for divorce on the husband's part? I would say there should be actions taken prior to deciding
00:30:39.740
that, like maybe therapy, couples therapy. I don't know. Sure. But okay. Assume you do all those
00:30:45.380
things and it's still like, she just no longer wants to have sex with her husband. Do you think
00:30:49.080
it'd be fair for the husband to divorce her? Maybe once the child is grown up and an adult.
00:30:57.160
Okay. What about you? Um, I don't think that there should be a law. I mean, I think that
00:31:02.540
if people decide that they would want to do that within their relationship, but everybody's different.
00:31:07.640
So if it was a law, there's people who have poly relationships, open relationships. So I don't
00:31:11.800
think that there could be a law in place because at the end of the day, I mean, we vote for this
00:31:15.940
and we live in a democracy. So if it were a poly relationship, that wouldn't be cheating because
00:31:21.340
that's agreed upon prior. Okay. Oh, wait. Okay. If you don't, if you don't mind, if I kind of dive
00:31:28.120
into this position a little bit. Yeah, you go for it, Andrew. So when you say, um, as long as it's
00:31:34.380
agreed upon, then it's okay. Um, and so the, the inference here is what if you're married,
00:31:41.660
uh, to the, to a person and they agree inside of the marriage to do this?
00:31:47.420
Like afterwards, like after they're married. Um, if it's agreed upon by both parties, then that,
00:31:53.600
you know, that's two way consent, but you have a lot of marriages that happen where the man all
00:31:57.900
of a sudden wants to become, you know, polyamorous and the wife doesn't agree or vice versa.
00:32:02.780
And so, well, the reason you think that it should be criminalized is because they're
00:32:08.140
breaking a vow, correct? Yes. And also you're pretty much jeopardizing that child's development
00:32:14.660
and in some, well, let's assume there's no children. You would still agree that he needs
00:32:20.200
to be punished the same way, right? Yeah. You're still putting either partner at risk to contract
00:32:25.700
an STD. Okay. Well, let's assume that they are able to get women who have a clean bill of
00:32:31.200
health. Um, you would still be for such a law, right? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. So even
00:32:37.020
if you, even then with all those things, you'd still be for the law, but wouldn't you be for
00:32:40.900
the law because it's breaking a vow? Yes. Because it's breaking a vow. Yeah. But wouldn't
00:32:46.180
it be breaking a vow anyway, even if in the middle of their marriage, they decided to open
00:32:50.120
it up, wouldn't you still be breaking a vow? That's a tough question. I mean, if, if both
00:32:55.200
people are agreeing on it, I don't see how that could be breaking a vow because you're both
00:32:59.740
agreeing on it. Well, you can agree to make a vow and then later, um, you can consent to break
00:33:06.220
the vow, but you've still broken the vow, haven't you? I don't understand how you can get around
00:33:10.360
that. Like if I vowed, for instance, to never defend myself in a fight and then, uh, somebody
00:33:16.240
attacked me and I said, well, I'm going to take that vow back. I, I still broke the vow, didn't I?
00:33:22.140
Yeah. But in that case, it would be self-defense. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But I still broke the vow,
00:33:27.080
right? Yes. Yeah. So then if people in the marriage decided to open their marriage up,
00:33:31.900
why wouldn't you arrest them for that as well, for breaking their vow? That's the point.
00:33:35.880
Well, if it were a two-way, you know, opening up of the marriage, then yes. Then they still broke
00:33:42.220
their vow. That's very true. So then your justification for them breaking their vow,
00:33:47.640
and that's what the justification is to have them arrested, doesn't make much sense because they can
00:33:52.300
break their vow in the middle of the marriage and still be arrested by your logic, uh, that are not
00:33:58.080
arrested. That doesn't make any sense. Now they can break vows as long as they just kind of consent to
00:34:02.620
break the vow, right? Yeah. But there should probably be like something like similar to a prenup prior to
00:34:09.020
getting married that goes through all of these things that they agree upon. Yeah. Right. But if in the
00:34:15.860
middle of the marriage, they both decide to break their pre-agreement and open their marriage up,
00:34:21.840
from your perspective, that's okay. But they still made a vow and broke their vow. And that's a
00:34:26.620
justification for why you think they should be arrested if one cheats on the other. So that
00:34:30.900
doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Well, I think situation, like depending on the situation, maybe not
00:34:35.640
arrested, but definitely something like a fine or something to, you know, punish them. Because
00:34:42.780
why would, why would you even get married in the first place if you plan on it of opening up your
00:34:47.720
marriage or if... Well, we'll assume that they didn't plan on it, but they just decided in the
00:34:52.800
middle of it to do so. Just like I'm sure that people don't plan on having a sexless marriage, but
00:34:57.220
oftentimes they do, right? Well, maybe those laws would be an incentive for people to choose wisely
00:35:03.640
and get married. Like if you truly love that person. So you would retract, so you would retract it
00:35:09.920
then and say that it's actually probably a better policy that you could not open your
00:35:15.000
marriage up even by consent because you would still be breaking your vow, right?
00:35:22.920
You answered the question, I believe. Kelly, should it be, you know, straight to jail, cheating?
00:35:32.320
Criminal penalties. Criminal penalties for cheating.
00:35:42.940
Oh. I think that there shouldn't be a law if you cheat because there's different positions
00:35:51.040
that can be put in. And I don't think it's like a straight line. Like I get married, I cheat
00:35:57.620
and then pay a fine. I feel like there's open relationships. There's people who the partner
00:36:04.000
likes the other partner to have relationships with other partner.
00:36:08.260
Well, cheating would imply that there was some understanding that it was monogamous, but
00:36:15.240
Like if you're in an open relationship, it's not... I don't consider it cheating.
00:36:19.000
But I feel like when a marriage... When you live so long together after a time, you do not
00:36:25.720
want to have sex with each other or you still do. And I feel like people change and they're
00:36:31.260
like, okay, let's open up our relationship. And that's when the other person's like, oh,
00:36:41.080
I mean, yeah, I think cheating is terrible, but I just also think it's unrealistic. But
00:36:45.500
I feel like by your standards that you would set criminalizing infidelity, I guess, don't
00:36:52.460
you think people would just be in more open relationships?
00:36:55.760
It would probably cause that, but then it would also lower divorce rates. It would lower a
00:37:01.760
Are you okay with like open... Or like what's your stance on that?
00:37:04.260
For me, I'm not. I don't care if other people are in an open relationship as long as it's
00:37:10.760
If you don't care if other people are in open relationships, then why would you legislate
00:37:16.760
Why would I allow for open relationships to be...
00:37:19.760
No, why would you make legislation penalizing people for breaking their vow in an open relationship
00:37:28.760
I mean, that's a difficult question. I haven't thought that far into it. It's just like a
00:37:35.760
Well, just to be clear, are you against open relationships or it's specifically cheating
00:37:41.760
within the confines of a monogamous, clearly indicated monogamous relationship?
00:37:47.760
Well, we'll move on from that. Daisy, we have your Instagram things. Don't pull it up quite
00:37:58.760
Yeah. 2015, 2018, 2020. Okay. So guys in the chat, we're checking, you know, Daisy, back in
00:38:06.760
the day, back in the... Was this the... This is like the Obama administration? Okay. And
00:38:16.760
then 2018, the Trump administration, and then 2020. Okay. All right. Let's pull it up.
00:38:34.760
He doesn't believe, right? You don't have to believe, but I'm just telling you, that's
00:38:45.760
Fit. Because I... My skin are very tight. But here, my boobs are small, but they're just
00:39:18.760
18 years old would be getting fake titties and BPLs and shit.
00:39:20.760
Maybe not in nine years ago, because that time it wasn't like very popular, you know,
00:39:34.040
And so you said you did have some stuff done with the face.
00:39:40.320
Have you had the – was it the buccal fat in the –
00:40:11.400
The biggest is my nose because if I change my nose, I look completely different, you know.
00:40:17.460
It's because my makeup, my style, the way I dress, and also because I did bodybuilding.
00:40:26.600
Because like that first photo from 2015, you're looking down, you're wearing sunglasses.
00:40:36.600
Anybody else here ever had any plastic surgery?
00:40:49.800
Have you guys considered like, oh, I'd like to maybe get fake boobs?
00:40:58.240
I've like thought about it, but like I wouldn't do it.
00:41:26.460
It feels like I'm kind of singling Daisy out here now because I'm asking this.
00:41:35.660
With or without plastic surgery, me personally, I'm not a fan.
00:41:57.660
He might be lying because there's a bit of a flirtation.
00:41:59.900
There's a flirtation between Gustavo and Daisy.
00:42:05.880
It was just like a little eye contact I picked up on.
00:42:10.640
Have you ever seen a girl that has plastic surgery and you're like, you actually didn't look
00:42:21.840
Who has plastic surgery and then seen her prior and you're like, oh, you actually look
00:42:43.180
I'm a, I'm, I'm part of the small titty committee.
00:42:52.040
How big are the, when we say big, how big are we, like some fucking melons?
00:43:07.460
Like you can see clearly, like you can see clearly the cleavage.
00:43:19.320
No, look, big boobs are nice, but like I would never, like if a girl had absolutely no boobs,
00:43:24.640
I would never be like, that would disqualify, that would never disqualify her.
00:43:31.260
In terms of like what is most perhaps, actually, you know what though?
00:43:37.560
Let me double down on the small boob team here.
00:43:44.240
These women aren't like have giant fucking melons, right?
00:43:51.820
And those are like, that is sort of like what's beautiful.
00:43:54.640
And so I have this theory that pisses everyone off.
00:43:57.620
So a girl with small boobs, she can be, she can be beautiful and she can be hot.
00:44:04.360
But a woman with like giant fucking knockers, she can be hot.
00:44:11.980
I don't know if she can be beautiful in terms of her titties.
00:44:29.480
So I'm not going to say, I wouldn't, I wouldn't use the term disgusting, but I actually don't
00:44:42.880
I don't, I don't like the feel of the fake titties.
00:44:44.500
But you know, a good surgery could be very natural.
00:44:52.720
Mine look fake because I have like very tight skin.
00:45:04.260
She could be wearing a turtleneck and I'm like fake tits.
00:45:06.500
But how do you know if you haven't had experience with that?
00:45:11.080
Because you told, you told everybody you don't like fake tits.
00:45:15.280
I've had one or two encounters with women who've had plastic surgery.
00:46:02.560
I don't think you needed to change anything, to be honest.
00:46:06.000
Well, to be honest, I don't care what people think of me.
00:46:14.660
I wanted to look like this, and I look like this.
00:47:06.240
Would you have preferred Daisy after or before?
00:47:22.300
It's just a conversation that comes up all the time.
00:47:46.960
Well, we'll get into that in just a second here.
00:47:53.440
Let me actually, before we do that, I do have to read one.
00:47:55.900
Actually, Daisy, I'm going to have you read it, okay?
00:48:30.320
Speaking of Mother's Day, it's Mother's Day today.
00:48:57.700
So, I've, I'm going to get through some of my questions.
00:49:00.760
I have some questions for you, some questions for Noel, and then Andrew has some questions.
00:49:05.220
So, I'll just try to get through mine as quickly as possible, and then Andrew has a couple questions,
00:49:10.640
I think a good starting point, though, is, so there was, so you were involved, romantically
00:49:16.080
involved with Walter from the FNF podcast, and you guys were dating.
00:49:24.180
And why don't you, can you just give us a quick, maybe 30-second summary of kind of everything
00:49:31.740
that, that's gone down, and then we'll get into the details.
00:49:38.560
He was the owner of the podcast of Fresh and Fit, and I met him on last year, November, and
00:49:47.240
then we started to become official on December, end of December, it was like New Year, so he
00:49:53.420
made it official, he posted us on YouTube, caption was, she bought my mom a gift, now
00:50:00.700
it's serious, and she, he asked me in person, like, I want you to be mine, no other guys.
00:50:06.120
Then I went back home for Chinese New Year, then we started talking, like, you know, then
00:50:11.740
I told him I was going to move to Miami, and that's what happened, and when we actually
00:50:17.720
came back to Miami, I stayed in his apartment for more than two weeks, then I got pregnant,
00:50:23.420
pregnant, I got pregnant, then he, like, when I found out I'm pregnant, he already broke
00:50:29.280
up with me, that was like two weeks later, I stayed in Miami, he broke up with you, he
00:50:34.400
broke up with me before I found out I'm pregnant.
00:50:40.280
I don't know, he just switched off, which I found out later that he might be playing a
00:50:46.960
game the whole time, and he didn't want the kid, so I, when I called him, he told me,
00:50:58.840
Actually, I did have one other question before we delve into this.
00:51:03.780
Um, actually, you know what, maybe we'll, we'll come to it at the end.
00:51:07.060
I was going to ask you, kind of, did you do any dating when you were living in China?
00:51:17.380
Because I just, it's unrelated to the Walter thing, but I was just curious about, you know,
00:51:23.520
perhaps the differences in terms of dating in China versus here in the U.S., or, you know,
00:51:28.800
those differences, but we'll come back to that.
00:51:30.740
So, uh, so let's, I think you went over timeline here.
00:51:39.220
Um, and then you broke up in February or March?
00:51:58.180
So that's, like, I went ahead and I texted him.
00:52:17.340
And then not long thereafter, you wanted, he wanted to call you or you wanted to call him?
00:52:22.660
He said he was on some kind of party and he said, I'm going to call you back.
00:52:39.360
So I guess what, perhaps the first thing we do is actually listen to the, uh, con,
00:52:49.080
the recorded conversation that you have with him.
00:52:56.240
You, there seems to be some discussion of a lawsuit.
00:53:16.440
So there's, but there's not currently, nobody's filed.
00:53:21.580
My lawyer is working on heavy evidence right now.
00:53:26.300
So there hasn't been a filed case yet, but you intend to file, uh, is it a defamation
00:53:39.580
Um, and you're doing this, I'm assuming in the state of Florida.
00:53:44.380
Uh, that I have to like follow up with my lawyer.
00:53:50.380
Is there any reason you would file it in New York versus Florida?
00:53:58.420
Actually, my lawyer, they're super busy because they are like very big in New York
00:54:05.040
Just like a few days ago, they text me, like they're going to collect all the evidence.
00:54:11.580
Is this, um, you're, are they taking this on, uh, shit.
00:54:22.900
Like, um, are you paying them or is this like they're taking it on contingency?
00:54:32.660
I was supposed to be paying, but then, uh, I told them like, cause low feed is very
00:54:38.460
I wasn't be able to collecting all this money and my bank account is in China.
00:54:46.260
Well, we can talk more about the potential lawsuit later, but, um, while we play the video,
00:54:51.860
because you recorded a, uh, a phone call, a phone conversation that you had with him.
00:54:57.960
Uh, we'll, we'll play it just so the audience can hear.
00:55:01.280
Um, what, I, I guess my question for you is what prompted you to want to record this
00:55:14.040
Well, but you had not gone public at this point.
00:55:19.120
Like when you recorded the conversation, this was still a private matter.
00:55:28.140
I want to prove that I am pregnant with his child and he doesn't.
00:55:36.760
But I did this in advance so I can show people whatever I'm showing right now.
00:55:41.640
As people can see, I have showed all the receipt and they still don't believe in me.
00:55:50.280
But so at what point prior to the recorded phone call, the leaked phone call conversation,
00:55:55.700
at what point did you make the determination that I'm going to go public with this?
00:56:01.020
The first time I reached him out, he told me, no, he doesn't want the baby.
00:56:10.820
So then I was like, okay, I'm going to give him some time.
00:56:19.800
So you texted him, hey, I'm pregnant, and he didn't respond?
00:56:34.380
Then like, so first time I did the pregnancy test, it wasn't like very clear.
00:56:41.740
But, you know, I thought maybe he thinks I'm trying to trick him or something.
00:56:45.860
So I just double sure and went to the hospital.
00:56:54.960
Then I told my friend, maybe it's time to record it.
00:57:00.420
Because in my head, I was very upset and emotional.
00:57:06.360
Because I know this guy doesn't want to take responsibility.
00:57:14.500
Well, he broke up with you, but it's not clear if...
00:57:26.740
Do you think it's wrong to break up with somebody for...
00:57:31.080
You can break up with anybody for any reason, right?
00:57:35.220
But just because of that, I kind of sense that he's not like a responsible man.
00:57:45.760
I had all my pockets delivered to his apartment.
00:57:53.960
I couldn't even wait because he was telling me, you should go.
00:58:00.360
It didn't seem like he was going to take responsibility.
00:58:04.700
What kind of responsibility were you hoping he...
00:58:09.720
What responsibility were you hoping he would take?
00:58:12.620
At least to take the responsibility as to be a father, be there for the kid.
00:58:16.880
Okay, so you wanted him to be involved with the parenting.
00:58:20.580
And it seemed at that point he would have been unwilling to do that.
00:58:26.940
Why don't we play the video and then we'll go from there.
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The pill, they just give it to you from the doctor and then you're good.
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Because I'm like, there's no way that that's true.
01:00:30.300
If you force me to kill the baby, then you're a sin.
01:00:42.120
At the very end there, you say force you to get an abortion.
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Is your position that he forced you to get the abortion?
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And once Trump is back, she'll be deported faster than the Japanese running from Godzilla.
01:01:39.460
And I want to have this certain understanding when the father is there.
01:01:45.720
He, just to be clear, he planned to have the baby.
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For four months and you wanted to have his baby?
01:02:06.800
I said, I'm going to keep the baby because I want to have a baby with you.
01:02:28.400
I mean, we know that like you had some tweets that you also released or excuse me, not tweets,
01:02:34.240
text messages that you guys that you released, which indicated that you guys were perhaps
01:02:41.640
I won't get into more detail, but you guys were not being safe on that front.
01:02:45.680
You were not on birth control is my understanding.
01:02:52.680
As you guys know, he does that to many girls, not just me.
01:02:57.960
Was he doing that with other girls when you guys were together?
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I don't believe in kill anything, like even the ants.
01:03:25.180
The reason you don't believe that is because why?
01:03:28.220
The reason you don't believe you should kill anything in Buddhism is for what purpose?
01:03:31.120
It's because in Buddhism, religious, we don't believe in do anything harm to any, to people
01:03:39.280
So, if we do that, we go to, if we do that, we go to hell.
01:03:43.620
So, this would be in your estimation of person, correct?
01:03:48.360
That means that the baby that you were carrying, it was a person from your worldview.
01:03:59.720
Guys, I'm going to actually put a brief temporary pause on the TTS just so we can get through this
01:04:13.000
I just want to get a clarification on that point.
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I just want to try to get through my questions, and I'll totally open it up to you, Andrew.
01:04:23.220
And under the Buddhists, is a Buddhist position, like abortion is, it's not allowed within that
01:04:41.140
So, I meant in Buddhism, we don't believe in kill anybody or doing anything harm to people
01:04:50.600
And that's how I feel when I'm surrounding with people.
01:04:56.260
But, I just can't keep the baby because they are harassing me after.
01:05:02.300
They hired many people and they made many allegations on me.
01:05:06.700
I don't want my kid's father to behave like that.
01:05:14.560
I have to be responsible for my life and my kid.
01:05:18.940
I don't want my baby father is this type of guy, you know.
01:05:26.280
Wait, but even, I think even in that conversation, it sounded like you did want him to be, I mean,
01:05:34.700
you were having sex with him, sleeping with him.
01:05:41.360
Before, even when I had the conversation with him, I was sure I want to keep the baby.
01:05:53.760
Well, but you did say like in that phone conversation that you don't want to kill the baby.
01:06:08.160
I did because after everything happened, they were harassing, internet harassing me.
01:06:12.260
While I'm pregnant, he didn't show up, doesn't respond to everything.
01:06:17.200
Instead, they, the whole group of people would insult me on internet and they were saying,
01:06:22.780
they were celebrating me being a single mother, playing a song like you let him hit in a row
01:06:32.060
And then also I found out other things about him that he was doing this to many other girls
01:06:41.320
Let's just stay focused on, on your specific relationship with him.
01:06:47.620
So, um, how far, how far long, when you told him, were you four weeks, five weeks, six weeks
01:06:57.000
Uh, when I told him it was like probably less than four weeks, less than four weeks.
01:07:03.320
And then, so, and is that, how long from when you told him to when you recorded that phone
01:07:13.220
And then from the point that you recorded the phone call, how soon after did you release
01:07:25.380
Well, I don't really remember when I recorded, but I know when I, I released it a few days
01:07:34.580
And I mean, you're saying though he was hesitant to be involved.
01:07:38.900
I mean, certainly look, I mean, even if it was the case that he, he, I mean, you could,
01:07:45.140
you can't force him to be involved in terms of parentage, but I mean, there would have been,
01:07:49.320
there would have been some sort of a child support payment, for example.
01:07:56.700
Well, but I mean, don't you think, I mean, this is from the time you told him to the point
01:08:03.080
that you released all of this on the internet, it sounds like maybe only about what, seven
01:08:10.340
I mean, so, I mean, for most men, I would assume it's pretty, can be pretty shocking,
01:08:18.840
I mean, don't you feel like you kind of took the first shot in all of this?
01:08:25.200
Well, you, I mean, you leaked the private conversation.
01:08:30.300
But I mean, but don't you think that that was an escalation in this?
01:08:34.060
You can say that, you know, he wasn't being responsive to you, but this was an escalation
01:08:41.160
And then, of course, I mean, I, from perhaps his perspective, he would be less inclined
01:08:46.120
to want to communicate with you further because when he did communicate with you, he called
01:08:50.100
you on the phone, you recorded it, which was a private conversation.
01:08:54.500
I'll tell you, even if I didn't leak the message, he wouldn't take the responsibility.
01:08:59.060
You gave him one week and then you, you went nuclear on the guy.
01:09:07.360
He basically tricks women, buys fake stuff to trick women, and also made other women pregnant.
01:09:15.980
I asked him, have you ever made anyone pregnant before?
01:09:23.100
So, for me, in my head, I was like, okay, this man doesn't want to take responsibilities.
01:09:37.340
So, for me, if you don't want a kid, just tell me.
01:09:44.260
But don't you think in furtherance of either a reconciliation of your relationship,
01:09:50.400
or if that was just never going to be possible, you guys reconciling romantically,
01:09:55.560
having him involved as a parent, don't you think extending him just the most basic courtesy
01:10:03.080
of keeping this whole thing private could have been in furtherance of, you know,
01:10:18.140
When the moment I decided to leak the message, it's because when he texted me,
01:10:27.040
So, can you imagine when your boyfriend telling you that while you're pregnant,
01:10:35.300
So, he admitted that he was seeing other four girls at the same time having sex without protection
01:10:47.960
Wait, but earlier on in the conversation, you said you don't object to a man having sex with other women.
01:10:57.820
And even if I do see other girls, I use protection.
01:11:01.060
So, he kind of like always avoid me, like avoid this conversation.
01:11:06.620
Plus, when I was with him two weeks, mostly he was with me 24 hours, except for three days.
01:11:13.640
When he tried to break up with me, he just like he disappeared for three days.
01:11:29.120
But like, I know, I'm just like, I just want to know like, what did you think that was like
01:11:32.520
so great about him that to make you want him to, like, because that's a big title to have.
01:11:36.600
Like, whoever you choose to be your child's father is a big choice.
01:11:54.840
First time I wanted to have kids with somebody.
01:11:59.100
So, and then at the end of that video, you were making, you were saying something about
01:12:11.240
It was like, kind of like misunderstood with my English.
01:12:15.180
Translated in English, that means like, if you ask me for a abortion.
01:12:27.040
And then you guys together, you and Noel, you guys did make a video titled.
01:12:53.040
So, and so just before we pull that up, do you guys consider yourselves to be victims
01:13:03.320
I don't feel quite victim, but I do feel like I was played.
01:13:06.220
Well, you said we, so the title of the video is we are the victims.
01:13:09.640
So, I mean, you were both in the video, so I would assume that means that.
01:13:26.220
I wouldn't say a crime, but emotionally damaged.
01:13:38.000
Like, he was dating, like, different women, but he kind of made me, like, his main girl.
01:13:43.520
Well, how was, when you say he was emotional abuse, what specifically?
01:13:49.800
When he found out I'm pregnant, instead of standing up and wipe it up, he told his partner,
01:13:56.540
making allegations about me, pull up some fake videos about me, saying I'm an escort.
01:14:07.560
All this internet attention, attacked, that caused me emotional damage.
01:14:12.620
Did you do that before or after you leaked the?
01:14:16.880
Well, so, do you think it's emotionally abusive to leak private phone calls?
01:14:28.380
For example, let's say Walter had recorded a private conversation that you and him had
01:14:49.980
It may certainly be the case that Walter isn't.
01:15:00.720
Well, I mean, did you know that, I mean, for example, he, I mean, his podcast, he does
01:15:09.380
Well, one, you said that you would not object to a man sleeping with other women, even if
01:15:16.600
And also, we human build that, this laws and this restrictions for our generation, for
01:15:29.340
But before, when we were back in thousands of years ago, we didn't have these rules.
01:15:35.200
Guys, guys, like, could sleep in with different women just to produce babies.
01:15:40.200
So, human nature, human nature, we don't just sleep with one person.
01:15:48.440
If my husband or my boyfriend respect me and always be honest with me, I'm fine.
01:15:56.860
But instead, he could tell me the truth, but he lied to me.
01:16:04.680
And then when I told him I'm pregnant, he told me I need to get four other girls tested.
01:16:14.680
Wait, so if you, if you're, like, I'm trying to figure out what the goal was and all of it.
01:16:19.500
Did you just want him to be your baby's father?
01:16:23.660
Because you said you didn't care about marriage.
01:16:25.180
So, it's like, if the, if everything else, like, him sleeping around with other girls
01:16:29.540
or whatever, if that doesn't matter to you, like, then I don't, like, how are you guys
01:16:34.820
I was hoping that he could just treat me nicely instead of just telling me go ahead and get
01:16:42.840
So, like, if he could just, like, say, oh, baby, I'm going to get you through this.
01:16:54.060
But, I mean, he, they do sort of hold themselves out to be these kind of playboy characters.
01:17:00.140
I mean, they have a segment on Womanizer Wednesdays.
01:17:03.920
Walter claims to have had a body count of over a thousand.
01:17:10.900
I mean, you must have known to some degree that he was probably involved with other women.
01:17:17.080
Well, I know he's a playboy, like, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's, okay, you knew that.
01:17:21.480
Yeah, I knew that, but I didn't know that he has bad character.
01:17:26.060
Playing boy and bad character is different, okay?
01:17:39.680
Like, what, just what specifically did he do that was evil?
01:18:09.000
We cannot control if a man's going to come inside of us or, no, we cannot control that.
01:18:15.940
Well, but I mean, you had sex with him multiple times, I'm assuming.
01:18:20.580
And he was coming inside of you every single time.
01:18:25.600
But so, I mean, it's not like you were saying, please don't do this, please don't come inside
01:18:33.860
And my future teller told me, you're going to get pregnant on March, which it happened.
01:18:37.080
Well, that's, yeah, I think that's typically how children happen, you know, the guys.
01:18:42.040
Like, my future teller literally told me last year, you're going to be pregnant.
01:19:05.100
Okay, well, it seems like they were planning to have a child.
01:19:12.480
I take that and I quit drinking, you know, stuff like that.
01:19:16.620
I really, I really sincere, like, wanted to have the baby.
01:19:23.080
I mean, he didn't say like, oh, I really want the kid, but by his behavior and action.
01:19:28.560
If he didn't want to have the kid, he wouldn't have, he, like, I asked him many times.
01:19:32.800
I don't think, well, I think genuinely, he didn't want to have a kid.
01:19:36.700
I think he didn't want the kid, but he also enjoyed nutting in you.
01:19:45.020
Guys are just going to, you know, if a guy gets to hit it raw, they're going to, why would
01:19:54.540
Then he should know that their partner is going to get pregnant.
01:19:58.080
Or he didn't care if she just go ahead, get an abortion.
01:20:08.720
I think it's just important for women to choose who they're having sex with without a condom
01:20:14.280
because we should already know, like, we're going to get pregnant and everything.
01:20:21.700
And so just going back to the video, you guys, the video is titled, We Are the Victims.
01:20:27.060
Um, I'm not sure if I really heard an answer to this.
01:20:35.860
Well, I don't think I'm like a victim victim, but prior to going out and meeting fresh, I
01:20:50.040
And then when it came to that, he just didn't, didn't ask me about it.
01:20:59.460
Like, and it took me by surprise because I was trusting that he wasn't going to, you know.
01:21:07.420
So you allowed him to have sex with you without protection or?
01:21:34.120
So you had been following their podcast for, for a while.
01:21:40.440
And then one day I saw a reel, followed fresh from it.
01:21:43.840
And then like an hour later, he hit me up and he said, come to Miami.
01:21:47.560
And I thought it was about the podcast because I was already scheduled to be on it.
01:21:51.380
And I was like, oh, like I'm already going to be there in January.
01:21:57.360
He was like, when you come out here, he's like, I want to take you out.
01:22:01.980
And then he had me end up coming out in December.
01:22:06.080
It just worked out a little more conveniently because she wasn't going to be there.
01:22:17.620
So he first saw you and then he started seeing Daisy.
01:22:29.300
The Fresh and Fit podcast, probably like a year and a half.
01:22:38.860
You know, you'd tune in for 30 minutes or something.
01:22:45.500
You guys had a couple of conversations, text messages, phone calls.
01:22:50.860
And then he picks you up at the airport and then drives back to his place.
01:22:56.580
And then you guys pretty much immediately go at it.
01:23:02.360
So from like stepping through the door, stepping through the door to, does he throw it down quick?
01:23:08.740
I mean, I would say cool 10, 15 minutes into getting into his apartment.
01:23:19.600
Was there like any, you know, oh, the weather is.
01:23:35.320
Well, so, so you, but you step through the door.
01:23:37.660
So how much time elapsed from stepping foot into his place to hooking up?
01:23:48.140
But I mean, so you were, I assume you're enthusiastic about that.
01:24:00.760
If two people are turned on, what do you expect?
01:24:04.460
And did you hook up more than, more than once with him?
01:24:21.380
And did, and did, and did both times that you hooked up with him, he didn't use a condom?
01:24:48.020
So you, you saw, but you were very familiar with their podcast.
01:24:55.060
I mean, were you familiar with the, look, there's a lot of content, both in my podcast, their podcast.
01:25:01.520
Were you aware of the fact that, you know, these guys are a bit, you know, they're playboys, you know, they get, they, they date a lot of women.
01:25:09.880
Like I, I, at that point, I hadn't even seen the Hail Mary video.
01:25:16.800
You guys, you can go to my, I'll send you, I'll send you.
01:25:22.700
He was, he admitted, basically he admitted that he made other girl pregnant.
01:25:30.080
Well, I'm not surprised if he's, you know, sleeping with women.
01:25:33.480
And then he'd lie to the girl that we're going to have kids later, then took her to the McDonald's
01:25:41.100
Like, told her to get an abortion, never talked to her again.
01:25:44.200
But, but what, what are those instances actually have to do with the two of you?
01:25:48.080
Like, um, if, uh, if, uh, if Walter had impregnated half of the United States, I don't actually
01:25:54.760
understand how that's pertinent to your particular situation.
01:26:00.960
If your wife or your ex-girlfriend, any woman that you were in a relationship with, if she
01:26:07.800
was pregnant with every guy she dated, does that make she, does that, does that make
01:26:26.920
Yeah, but, um, nobody's really questioning whether or not you broke up with a guy based
01:26:31.580
on the fact that he's out humping a bunch of other women.
01:26:35.480
That's like, that's not what's in question here.
01:26:39.360
So I'll tell, well, I'll tell you what the question is.
01:26:41.080
Um, so when you're talking about inside of your religious faith of Buddhism, Buddhism takes
01:26:46.280
a neutral stance on abortion, as you know, but you clearly told fresh inside of that phone
01:26:51.920
call that it's against your religion to terminate this pregnancy.
01:26:55.680
Does that make it murder that you terminated the pregnancy?
01:27:00.700
So if he's not a murderer and you're not a murderer, I don't actually under, hang on,
01:27:05.640
I don't actually understand what the problem is as what could he have coerced you to do?
01:27:10.120
He didn't coerce you to murder because you're not a murderer and he's not a murderer by
01:27:16.280
Well, there is some behavior that he done that made me decide to have the abortion.
01:27:25.100
Yeah, but even if all of the behavior, um, even if he did coerce you, let's just say hypothetically
01:27:34.860
Even if he did hypothetically coerce you to have an abortion, if it isn't murder, then
01:27:40.180
that isn't that like coercing you to pick up a rake in the yard?
01:27:47.400
The actual problem is I lost the baby that I was supposed to have.
01:27:55.080
I supposed to have it with Walter and he doesn't want it.
01:27:59.660
Yeah, but why would that be a problem if it's not a person?
01:28:02.100
If you don't believe that it's murder to terminate the pregnancy, you don't believe he's a murderer,
01:28:07.720
you don't believe you're a murderer, then what's the actual problem?
01:28:10.180
It's just like picking a rake up in the yard, right?
01:28:18.920
I think women in here, they won't understand me.
01:28:24.980
I don't want to argue with you because I know I can't.
01:28:30.780
You're just like into these details and so sophisticated, trying to catch me something or twist my word.
01:28:43.260
I know that I've made a mistake by dating this guy.
01:28:51.680
Yes, but I believe this is the best choice because I don't want a father.
01:29:00.060
I'm just telling you that if you're saying that it's not murder to abort the child,
01:29:06.400
but you're saying he coerced you into aborting it,
01:29:09.160
I still then don't even understand what exactly he coerced you into doing,
01:29:20.480
Yeah, but the abortion, you consider it not to be a murder.
01:29:31.020
How could he be a murderer if you don't consider it murder to abort?
01:29:37.600
The internet harassed me, and he caused me emotional damage and all that.
01:29:43.900
Yeah, no, I get that, but how could it actually be murder
01:29:48.500
if you don't consider it to be murder if you abort?
01:29:56.920
Okay, so you do consider it murder, so you're murder.
01:30:05.600
It's not a coercion to do anything bad if it's not a murder.
01:30:12.980
Well, if you terminate a pregnancy, it's not murder, right?
01:30:19.820
So then even if he coerced you to terminate the pregnancy,
01:30:25.080
Because you didn't do, it's like picking up a rake in the yard, right?
01:30:32.500
If it's not murder, then what did he coerced you to do that was actually bad?
01:30:37.940
For you, it's putting a dish away because you're not in my position.
01:30:44.160
You wouldn't understand how I feel when I actually carried a baby.
01:30:48.740
It was a baby, a dot in my belly, and I had to end it.
01:30:55.800
It's not murder, but it's also not something we should encourage people to do.
01:31:03.880
It's just something she didn't want to do, and that's the principle.
01:31:10.400
So are you encouraging people to have abortion?
01:31:16.080
Well, I mean, I wouldn't because I consider it murder,
01:31:21.560
So if you don't consider it murder, why would it be a problem if people went and had abortion?
01:31:29.340
You don't understand the consequence for women to get an abortion, the health damage,
01:31:42.180
So you just don't understand because you're another woman.
01:31:46.600
That's why I was perhaps hoping that you could explain it to me.
01:32:05.380
It's like he gave me a food that's a person that he knows it's going to make me sick,
01:32:25.820
The thing is, is that if Walter doesn't consider an abortion murder, and you don't consider an abortion murder,
01:32:33.480
I don't even really understand what the problem is here.
01:32:36.660
A consequence of sex is pregnancy, and if neither of you consider abortion murder, he doesn't and you don't,
01:32:43.380
then I don't actually understand what you're upset about, to be honest with you.
01:32:48.060
I think the problem, I think her issue is she wanted somebody to go through it with her.
01:32:57.780
And I don't know, I don't know why somebody, four months is really short, but I'm not judging her for that.
01:33:07.500
If I ask you, for instance, you know, if you got pregnant, and neither one of you consider it to be a murder,
01:33:15.500
or in any way, shape, or form immoral to do an abortion.
01:33:21.260
Well, then that would make you a murderer, ma'am.
01:33:24.080
No, I didn't make the decision because I wanted to.
01:33:34.480
So if you don't consider yourself a murderer, then you can't consider having an abortion murder.
01:33:48.600
Is that okay to get an impregnate woman and ask her to get a potion, like taking a pregnancy, like taking a Plan B pill?
01:33:59.200
But from your worldview, you just said it's fine.
01:34:00.960
You just said from your perspective, from the Buddhist perspective...
01:34:15.860
If you didn't take a human life, then why is it actually a problem?
01:34:26.760
And if it is a murder, then that would make you a murderer, wouldn't it?
01:34:37.260
Wait, so are you saying that Fresh is the murderer?
01:34:53.320
I didn't want my baby daddy to be like someone like that.
01:34:58.100
But no matter what, you still had the decision to either take the pill or not take the pill, right?
01:35:04.480
So it just seems like you're putting all of the accountability on him.
01:35:13.500
So you did have this video called We Are The Victims.
01:35:33.180
I actually watched it, and I have a couple notes here with timestamps.
01:35:37.740
If needed, I'll pull up the actual point of time corresponding to some of my questions I had.
01:35:44.600
So starting with Daisy, you said that 13 minutes in, you, when it comes to abortion and pregnancy, you consider it as you actually have a life in your belly.
01:35:58.500
At 1830, in that video, you said one of the reasons you got the abortion, or perhaps women can get abortions, is you feel it carrying a baby.
01:36:17.680
And so, you said that perhaps one of the reasons women will get abortions is for health issues?
01:36:26.680
Was that one of the reasons that you decided, or that wasn't related?
01:36:33.340
Yeah, some women, you said some women might choose to get an abortion because they face potential health issues if they continued with the pregnancy.
01:36:57.160
Now, at 2930, Nick, could you actually skip to 2930?
01:37:53.400
We're just going to pause it just to kind of get through some of this stuff, and then we'll
01:38:07.240
What do you mean by you're here to take him down?
01:38:18.380
Maybe that's, like, let's just say that, you know, take your word for it, and that he did
01:38:25.000
Do you think it's, like, do you see yourself just moving on from this?
01:38:40.600
That's why I chose, in the end, to take the bill.
01:38:44.940
I mean just, like, this ongoing conflict with them.
01:38:56.260
But you said you're pursuing a lawsuit against him.
01:39:02.640
And to be clear, you're doing a defamation lawsuit?
01:39:11.920
I believe it's, well, I don't know what you're specifically going for, but intentional infliction
01:39:19.780
Yeah, and he could have bring me a serious STD.
01:39:28.840
I don't think you can sue somebody for what they could have potentially done to you.
01:39:59.040
Well, no, I know there's other things, but I'm asking why you are planning to sue him, but...
01:40:06.120
Like, they are defending me and putting slander on me.
01:40:19.600
What's the main thing that they're accusing you of that you find defamatory?
01:40:36.340
I addressed that already, which is also why I'm working with my lawyer.
01:40:52.760
And they also called me a thief, which I am not.
01:41:00.160
You're filing this lawsuit in New York, is that correct?
01:41:13.400
It's a good state, is my understanding, to be a plaintiff in a defamation case.
01:41:23.100
No, I'm saying that's probably one of the best states if you're a plaintiff in a defamation case.
01:41:29.880
Given that he lives in Florida, you were in Florida when...
01:41:35.260
It just seems like venue shopping a little bit.
01:41:38.380
Like you chose the best state to file a defamation lawsuit in.
01:41:54.280
Because I know Andrew's got a bunch of questions.
01:41:56.200
So I'll try to get through this as quick as I can.
01:42:00.840
You said at 38 minutes that you hid the time that you had your abortion.
01:42:07.900
So there was a period of time while there was this kind of...
01:42:31.040
Until when I was drinking a glass of wine in Miami.
01:42:40.940
Oh, it's okay to drink a little bit even if you're pregnant.
01:42:44.560
But at that time you weren't even pregnant at all.
01:42:52.400
But at that point were you still intending to carry on as if you...
01:42:55.700
At least publicly that you were still pregnant.
01:43:07.880
But I just wanted my vacation, like a little vacation.
01:43:21.720
And just a reminder, guys, we are taking a pause on all the chats and the TTSs just while we get through this segment.
01:43:27.760
Until I take you guys down, like, I'm not going to, like...
01:43:46.760
But what prompted you to decide to, like, leak all this, go public?
01:44:10.240
They didn't like that, the fact that I leaked the message.
01:44:16.440
It's because when somebody tried to hurt me, and actually they did, and they don't think
01:44:21.740
about the consequence after, and am I letting them just, like, to, like, move on like that?
01:44:29.280
Like, they're never going to learn a lesson if they don't.
01:44:32.040
If I didn't do anything, actually, like, that's going to damage them.
01:44:37.100
So you can go ahead and judge me for being, you know, what I'm not really saying.
01:44:45.120
But the motivation, you think that the primary motivation that you had was vengeance?
01:44:51.380
First, revenge, because he hurt me, so I want to hurt him.
01:44:55.720
Second, because I wanted to warn other women as well, because there is a lot of message
01:45:02.420
When you say he hurt you, what precisely did he do?
01:45:09.700
No, he made me pregnant, and he didn't want to take the accountability.
01:45:17.700
Does him getting you pregnant, was that him hurting you?
01:45:28.960
Was he, like, telling you he didn't want to have a baby?
01:45:36.740
He didn't even say, oh, come to Florida, come to Miami, I'm going to go to the hospital
01:45:42.300
You know, we broke up already, we can't keep the kid.
01:45:45.540
Like, he can just say anything, like, that's nice.
01:45:47.600
Like, all of a sudden, he switched from somebody that's nice, charming, to somebody that's like,
01:45:58.760
Yeah, and he deserved to be punished for that, right?
01:46:06.560
He deserved for you to punish him for doing that horrible thing to you, right?
01:46:12.680
Well, I didn't expect that from you, but thank you.
01:46:26.680
Yeah, so, I mean, he needed to be punished, didn't he?
01:46:32.420
Yeah, and he still needs to be punished, doesn't he?
01:46:38.920
Do you want to, like, see him in jail or, like...
01:46:53.280
For making me pregnant, for making other women pregnant,
01:46:56.060
for giving other women STD while knowing he's sleeping with multiple women without protection.
01:47:22.400
So, I am a little bit confused. So, if you had so much conviction about keeping the child and being against abortion, the father being a perceived or actual scumbag who doesn't want involvement and the ensuing drama,
01:47:47.580
the public drama, it doesn't seem like enough pretext to go and get an abortion if it's against your religion, against your values.
01:48:00.640
There's a lot of different reasons. Also, one of the main reasons because I was like during the pregnancy where I had to fight with all of them.
01:48:09.800
I was like very stressed. You know, I was worried about my health.
01:48:15.300
No, I'm not questioning that you were stressed, but why were you stressed? Because of the drama.
01:48:19.940
Because they were putting, yeah, the drama, the allegations on me and especially he never like actually made any announcement.
01:48:27.900
He was keeping his mouth shut while his partner was speaking for him.
01:48:33.220
So, I want you to just be a man, man up. Like even if you made a mistake, just say, Daisy, I made a mistake.
01:48:38.620
Like, I shouldn't have done that. That's okay. I take the apologize.
01:48:42.980
Even though it takes both to, you know, how to say, to get pregnancy.
01:48:52.180
So, like, yeah, two. So, like, I would be okay.
01:48:55.720
Like, I just, he just so stubborn. He wouldn't even apologize to me.
01:49:05.320
Like, well, I mean, he's a real son of a bitch, right? I mean, treating you like that.
01:49:10.140
I mean, he kind of, he kind of has it coming, right? Kind of has it coming.
01:49:15.300
Well, I didn't really know that because I just felt, I just, like, personally, I just wanted to feel who this guy is.
01:49:23.680
Like, I didn't know he's like this scumbag until he broke up with me.
01:49:29.200
I searched him on Google. A lot of things came out.
01:49:36.340
And when somebody treats you like that, I mean, they deserve to be punished by you, don't they?
01:49:49.780
So, you said that you were, when you say that the primary reason for you getting the abortion was because you were stressed out by this whole thing.
01:49:58.460
There's another reason. As I told everybody, I was growing up in single family.
01:50:05.860
And when I was in childhood, when I was in school, people always laughing about me, making fun about me without, like, I don't have a mother.
01:50:13.720
You know, like, it's just, like, very tough for me.
01:50:18.140
Like, I don't want my kid to go through similar situations as me.
01:50:24.160
Okay. So, but you said the primary reason was because of the stress. Is that correct?
01:50:33.120
You know, the stress, that was the main reason, from all the drama with Fresh and, you know, all that, that was the main reason you decided to get the abortion.
01:50:43.240
Do you think that you kind of brought some of this on yourself?
01:50:51.720
Because I, truthfully, like, looking at all this retrospectively, had you kept all this private, had you not leaked the phone call?
01:51:01.800
Because, I mean, he, he, they have grounds to have been upset with you for leaking a private phone call.
01:51:08.240
You could argue that that's a, that's a pretty big breach of trust, even though you guys had broken up.
01:51:14.380
And, I mean, look, maybe he wasn't moving in the, the best way when it comes to his relationship with you.
01:51:20.260
But, I mean, leaking a private, well, it's not just leaking the phone call.
01:51:24.460
I mean, you intentionally, there was, like, forethought.
01:51:29.540
You recorded the phone call with the intention of then releasing it.
01:51:34.040
Um, so, I mean, perhaps none of this stress would have been caused if you just tried to handle this privately.
01:51:41.140
And you did take, in, in this conflict, in this war that you're, you're now finding yourself in, you did kind of take the first shot, at least from how it looks.
01:51:53.180
I think whether it was leaked or not, he was still going to tell her to abort it, and that's still going to cause stress.
01:52:01.380
I was already very stressed when he told me he didn't want the kid.
01:52:04.980
In the beginning, like, I gave him four days to think about it.
01:52:10.320
But, I mean, just myself being involved with, you know, being out there publicly and doing a podcast.
01:52:17.400
And, I mean, it can be very stressful getting, you know, I don't know if you've got any death threats.
01:52:32.260
Uh, I don't, I don't suspect any of that would have occurred if this would, had been kept private.
01:52:44.220
I'm not saying, I'm not saying Fresh was perfect, but it does seem in terms of making this whole thing public, they obviously responded to you.
01:52:50.800
But you kind of, once you opened that door, you sort of, what's it, opened Pandora's box and kind of, well, okay, you went public.
01:53:14.180
And in that video, an hour and five minutes in, you were speaking about ABBA Atlas.
01:53:20.900
Me and him, we're actually related because we share the last name, apparently.
01:53:26.840
We're not, I'm not really, we have the same last name, but we're not related.
01:53:29.960
Um, you were upset that he betrayed you by leaking DMs.
01:53:41.320
ABBA and I, we don't, like, I didn't hurt him, like, or anything.
01:53:50.600
The reason why he did it, because he probably want to show off, you know, or he wants to,
01:54:00.000
Your ex-girlfriend actually hit on me, stuff like that.
01:54:02.720
And he actually, like, I, like, he had, like, a huge, he almost hit one million reviews
01:54:14.100
Like, he didn't have to leak the private message.
01:54:16.040
Like, that was just, like, that's what you, that's precisely what you did to Walter.
01:54:19.640
And you didn't, well, you went beyond just leaking DMs.
01:54:23.220
You also leaked, you recorded, premeditated, recorded a phone call and leaked the phone
01:54:29.020
But ABBA didn't have to, because I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't in a relationship with
01:54:40.280
Like, that just shows him that I really had a respect, my respect for him.
01:54:48.160
He knows, by the way, by the way, he knew that I was getting an abortion.
01:55:07.980
So you feel like you, you, when people, and when people betray you, right, that you should
01:55:17.880
Don't you think you should be able to go after people hard who betray you and do, and do
01:55:23.960
So think about how you feel about what ABBA did to you.
01:55:29.460
Would it be fair to say that that's how Walter feels about what you did to him times a hundred?
01:55:44.700
In terms of the leaking the private, because you, ABBA, he leaked the private DMs between
01:55:50.040
You leaked these phone calls, text messages, et cetera.
01:55:52.960
That's probably the way that you feel about that.
01:55:56.100
Is how Walter feels about what your leaks, but probably way worse, because I mean, there
01:56:05.700
But, and also you said that you feel like you didn't do anything wrong to ABBA, correct?
01:56:15.360
What, what if I told you that maybe Walter feels that way?
01:56:23.500
Well, I don't know, but maybe he feels that way.
01:56:31.380
Well, you said it seems like your main quarrel is that he got you pregnant.
01:56:36.880
It's not clear to me though, if that is enough pretext to get revenge.
01:56:46.400
Like he didn't have to play all this game to make me pregnant and dump him and didn't
01:56:51.120
want the kid, you know, that's like very, something very serious for me.
01:56:57.380
That's like something you wish for, for a long time.
01:57:05.760
And he took, and he took, and he took that away from you.
01:57:18.840
I mean, how could you even help yourself, but go after him like this?
01:57:27.300
Well, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm agreeing with you.
01:57:30.320
I'm saying, like you said, you've never done this to anybody.
01:57:37.080
I mean, cause he took this away from you, right?
01:57:40.380
So, I mean, he deserves everything that's coming to him and then some, doesn't he?
01:57:44.800
Moving on in the video at the 1-12-50 mark in that video, you, I think you were talking
01:57:50.880
You said that Noel, she's a victim because he slept with her without a condom and nutted
01:58:00.360
But you said you don't view yourself as a victim, right?
01:58:04.160
Like, I did consent to have sex with him and I did go through with having sex without a
01:58:12.860
But prior, I told him, I don't want children out of wedlock.
01:58:17.060
I wanted him to use a condom at first, but in that moment, it just didn't happen.
01:58:21.380
But you don't just go and nut in someone, like, without their permission.
01:58:26.820
He's just playing Russian roulette with pregnancies.
01:58:38.240
At that point, it's assault because you didn't talk about that prior.
01:58:45.900
And you would think he would get, yeah, I probably should knock this girl up.
01:58:52.300
But at the 117.50 mark, you said, don't let a man take advantage of you.
01:58:59.220
You said, don't let a man take advantage of you.
01:59:01.600
So, do you feel that Fresh took advantage of you?
01:59:10.380
Because he wasn't really planning a future with me.
01:59:37.660
He was, like, even, like, before a week, he broke up with me.
01:59:48.080
So, you feel like he was, like, leading you on?
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Just tell me, like, I don't want a relationship.
01:59:57.500
Even though before him, I was single for a while.
02:00:07.360
How soon after meeting him did you say, I love you?
02:00:15.960
Like, so how long would you say you had been dating before?
02:00:23.780
It takes me, like, three years to say that shit.
02:00:31.920
He took me to his country, Barbados, to his mother and his entire family.
02:00:42.460
Like, if he stepped up, like, financially and he told you, you know, I don't want the
02:00:49.740
Would that have changed the outcome of your abortion?
02:00:55.520
So, like, if the father is there and the father is a good guy and he provides.
02:01:06.680
I mean, financially and physically and, like, emotionally to the kid.
02:01:19.420
But my question is that if he told you, you know, I don't want to be part of the baby's
02:01:23.600
life, but I will take care of you guys financially, you and the baby.
02:01:38.980
Like, because it seemed like you were trying to paint him, like, I don't know, as a hypocrite
02:01:42.880
or a deadbeat or not a Christian man because he wanted an abortion.
02:01:48.140
But it seems very clear that, at least from kind of the conversation we've had and from
02:01:54.780
some of the stuff that's, you know, been talked about on the internet, like, it seems
02:02:00.340
like you had no intention of actually keeping the baby.
02:02:09.000
And when I, and even though when things happened, I wasn't, like, still wasn't, like, sure.
02:02:14.680
I was, like, going back and forth, thinking what to do.
02:02:19.320
Only, like, I think, actually, I went to the, like, parenthood twice.
02:02:27.280
First time when I tried to get rid of it, I didn't.
02:02:36.160
Can I ask, just briefly, I was just curious if I could get some clarification.
02:02:40.700
Have you ever taken Plan B or any contraception of any kind before?
02:02:45.460
Like, we have, like, an emergency pill if someone, like.
02:02:52.480
Yeah, have you ever taken that emergency pill before?
02:03:06.260
You have to wait until you're pregnant, and then you take it?
02:03:15.300
Wait, so, Andrew, I think when it comes to the Plan B pill, it's possible that you can take that pill prior to conception?
02:03:24.660
Sure, that's what I'm asking about, this specific pill she's talking about.
02:03:28.740
Do you have to conceive, or how does that pill in China, the emergency pill, work?
02:03:32.840
So, after the intimacy, you can take it within 70 hours, 72 hours.
02:03:46.420
Wait, so, when you were trying to, because, like, it seems your goal is to, like, expose him?
02:03:55.080
Expose him for, like, being a pro-choicer, being a deadbeat, is that?
02:04:00.060
But, like, so, why try to expose him for that when, I mean, that's, you opted to get the abortion, so, why expose him for, essentially?
02:04:12.960
When I did it, it was just, like, very emotional, you know, like, I was just very, very mad at that time, and I didn't, I didn't want to get an abortion at that time when I exposed it.
02:04:24.820
But, like, I only decided later, later, because things get really worse, and he never showed up after that.
02:04:35.640
Well, hold on, I mean, plenty of women who are pregnant, but even if the dad's totally out of the picture.
02:04:42.600
In this country, but not in my country, it's not something very in common.
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If they impregnate a woman, they will take responsibility.
02:04:57.660
That's why I didn't, like, I had, I didn't know, like, I only got here last year on October.
02:05:05.320
Well, now, wait, wait, now, hang on, wait a second.
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I'm confused, and maybe you can clarify this for me.
02:05:11.620
If you have taken this pill before in China, but you say that the culture in China is that they always take accountability, why take the pill?
02:05:19.200
Well, because sometimes you have casual sex, and things could happen.
02:05:26.960
Okay, so this, so when you're having casual sex in China.
02:05:31.040
Yeah, so when you were in a, when you would have casual sex in China from time to time, you would take this pill to prevent yourself from conceiving.
02:05:38.400
Okay, I just wanted to get clarification on this.
02:05:43.540
So, I mean, it just seems like, so the efforts to expose him and ruin his reputation for precisely the same behavior and conduct that you ultimately did, you wanted to expose him.
02:05:56.300
Here's this Christian man who tried to get me to get an abortion.
02:05:59.420
Here's this guy who, he seems like he's going to be a deadbeat, but you, you got an abortion, so I'm just like, why expose him for conduct that you're basically the, the, his conduct is your conduct?
02:06:15.360
I told you when I exposed him, I didn't want to do the abortion.
02:06:19.960
I think what he's trying to say is he's trying to, like, you kind of enabled him to do that to you because there was all these signs, like, you know, he's not a good, not a good dad.
02:06:32.380
If you watch Fresh and Fit, he's not boyfriend, not husband.
02:06:41.420
It just comes, like, you, you basically just got, like.
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Like, why expose him if you agreed to his terms?
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That's what he wanted you to do, and you went through with it.
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In your defense, he deserved to be punished for this.
02:07:21.960
Like, what, what, what the question about here?
02:07:24.860
Like, if you think I did some, I did wrong by leaking his message, fine.
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But if you say he's, he didn't do anything wrong, I don't agree with it.
02:07:35.300
Like, I don't see, like, what, what, what's the argument here?
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I'm not, well, I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not making any accusations at all.
02:07:42.440
I'm just saying, in your defense, if something like that happened to me, and I felt like I was
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fooled in some way, or I felt kind of, like I had been made a fool of, I would be super
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And I would want to get some revenge on a person.
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Like, if that happened to me, that's how I would feel.
02:08:00.820
I would literally feel like I needed to get some kind of revenge on them for making me
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I mean, and I guess, I guess that's my perspective, too, right?
02:08:25.840
So, I mean, like, in this situation, though, you said that he forced you to get the abortion.
02:08:32.580
Um, but I'll know, at least here in the United States, Nick, can you close that?
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So, here in the United States, I mean, Walter and men in general have really zero reproductive
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So, as a woman, if you want to abort the child, you can.
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There's nothing a man can do in either scenario to either force you to keep it or force you
02:08:57.960
Now, it could certainly be the case that the man in a scenario where a woman's pregnant
02:09:04.360
Um, I'm not, I'm not making that accusation towards fresh, but just to make an argument.
02:09:09.180
Um, just because a man's a would-be, uh, a deadbeat or, you know, he's causing you stress,
02:09:16.600
uh, that would not be him forcing you to get an abortion.
02:09:22.860
Coercion for abortion is actually illegal in all 50 states.
02:09:27.520
Well, when you say coercion, what do you mean precisely?
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If it's intimidating somebody, threatening them online, embarrassing them, you could
02:09:36.840
Well, um, to respond to this, I, I actually would agree that coercion to make somebody
02:09:43.300
do anything, regardless of what it is, would be a crime in all 50 states, not just abortion,
02:09:49.520
Like, if you're a man and you're going to knock someone up, the best bet is to just
02:09:52.860
not tell them to abort it and let them make the decision for themselves instead of telling
02:09:56.460
them, oh, I can't afford it, or, oh, if you don't do this.
02:09:59.220
But, but, but to my point, if you don't mind responding to my point, coercion for anything
02:10:07.340
So it's, I mean, it's not specific to abortion.
02:10:10.960
It's specific to anything which you utilize coercion, which is why coercion is such a specific
02:10:18.020
Usually coercion has some type of implicit threat of violence or something like this.
02:10:22.180
I mean, surely neither of you ever felt like you were physically threatened by, by, uh,
02:10:34.400
Not Walter, but I believe, I believe Myron represent Walter because he was silent and Myron was saying
02:10:44.040
that he wished he's a woman so he can punch me in the face.
02:10:54.040
But you just said that you didn't feel any type of coercion from Walter.
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Like he didn't feel physically threatened from him.
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Neither of you felt physically threatened from Walter.
02:11:03.740
I mean, I heard the call and Walter said in the call, he said, well, what are you going
02:11:21.240
But if I was, uh, let's assume for a second that, that me and Brian were partners on whatever
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we're not, but assume that we were, if Brian said bad things about you and I didn't say
02:11:33.280
bad things about you, how would that be me coercing you?
02:11:42.180
So I'm just saying if you didn't feel actually physically threatened in any way by Walter or
02:11:58.480
His company, but his company ever physically threatened you or?
02:12:07.400
Well, no, wouldn't Walter represent Fresh and Fit?
02:12:28.940
But I mean, you would have to hold Myron responsible for that.
02:12:32.900
But Walter himself, did either of you actually, I just want to make sure I'm clear on this.
02:12:37.460
Did either of you ever actually feel threatened in any way, shape or form physically from Walter?
02:12:50.940
So I mean, at least the initial definition here from Oxford Dictionary.
02:12:59.260
The practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.
02:13:05.220
So is it your guys' position that he coerced either of you in any way?
02:13:10.700
They have a site, C-A-F-A, the Center of Abortion Something, but there's specific laws on abortion coercion.
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Just look up abortion coercion and the link should pop up.
02:13:54.840
Or it could just like, for example, would me like pressuring you to get an abortion, would
02:14:04.300
Like if I was like, babe, I'm not ready for a child.
02:14:12.380
No, in your view of whatever the term coercion is, if we were dating, I got you pregnant, I
02:14:18.060
didn't want to have the kid, and I was like, babe, I'm not ready to have the kid, can't
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have the kid, don't want the kid, please, please, please get an abortion.
02:14:27.340
What about, um, what about if somebody, if a guy, uh, begged for sex that way, would
02:14:40.000
I mean, that's a really weird thing to compare that to, but.
02:14:44.840
I mean, I heard that, I heard, I heard tales from women like that when I was in high school
02:14:56.040
I guess that would depend on who you ask, me personally.
02:15:03.540
Hold on, well, let me, let me even use a different example.
02:15:08.460
If, let's say I would, I just asked you, I just said, hey, listen, um, I'm not ready
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to have a kid, um, would you consider getting an abortion?
02:15:20.540
If it's a question, no, but if you're saying, I can't have a kid, I'm broke, I don't have
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money for it, I don't want a kid, that's coercion.
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You can't get someone pregnant and then tell them to abort it just because you don't want
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That's totally up to the woman and the man has no say.
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But I mean, ask, so I think even in the prior example, I asked for it.
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Um, so you're saying if it's, if it's a statement instead of a question, then it would be coercion.
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What if, what if the statement is, for example, that I'm just coming up with this off the top
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I want to, I love you, but I'm not ready yet to have a kid.
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If you're saying I would like for you to, instead of I'm telling you to, then no, that's not
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Even if a man were to say, I'm telling you to get an abortion.
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First off, he has, he would have no legal right to actually force you to get it.
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But even if he were to say it, um, there's a reason that they have laws on this.
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I mean, if you have the link, let's look at it.
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So you, there's, if a man were to say, I'm, I'm telling you to get an abortion, but he has
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no intention of otherwise being mean to you or threatening you with in any way, he's not threatening
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He's just saying, I'm telling you to get an abortion.
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I'm telling you, babe, you have to get an abortion.
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But do you think it's fair if he's saying that like to the woman and then she still keeps
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She should be able to do whatever she wants with it.
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I'm not an expert in the definition of coercion.
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It's not clear to me if that would be coercion to just be like, well, any of the scenarios
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I do take notes as we're going and I usually get all the gals name, but I had an ear issue
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It was the gal wearing the crucifix next to, um, the blonde gal with a crucifix over on the
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So by that logic, then is the gal sitting next to you a murderer?
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I, honestly, that's, I don't want to share my opinion on that because it really doesn't
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I just, I just would like her answer, if you don't mind.
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If you believe abortion is murder, is the gal sitting next to you a murderer?
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A fetus, is a fetus, uh, equivalent to a baby to you?
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But that's her decision and I'm not going to judge her for it.
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I, I usually don't judge people who murder babies either.
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I mean, I don't, I'm not going to really respond to that.
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Well, anyway, I'll, I'll turn it back over to Brian, but I did want to get that clarified
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because I don't, I just want to make sure that I get the worldviews down and that you
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are assisting right this second with a person who you believe murders babies.
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I just, I just want to make, make sure I got that clear.
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Oh, I think everyone's missing the entire principle of the whole thing.
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They use their platform to urge men to step up as fathers or to be high value men.
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Is it hypocritical to support murderers when you're against abortion?
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Is it hypocritical for you to do that as you point out other people's hypocrisy?
02:19:38.720
Oh, well, how are, then you should love fresh, right?
02:19:45.360
Well, but why, why it's, it's interesting to me that you would assist the woman next to
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you, uh, who has the same bad behavior that you were accusing fresh of as you accuse fresh
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Would that not also make you a hypocrite as you call him a murderer?
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Would you not have to call the person next to you a murderer as well?
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I don't think fresh is in the right, but I have my own side that happened with fresh and
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Because she can speak on what she wants to speak on, but I'm not going to speak on her
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Uh, I will just to the rest of the panel, I'll open it up to you guys here soon.
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So, um, at least for Daisy, just to conclude, um, I don't know if I'm old school, but in
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my book, you never leak anything to do with family, friends, or somebody you're dating.
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Even if a relationship or somebody you're dating, maybe it doesn't even end the best.
02:20:56.240
Uh, I don't think you put them on blast publicly.
02:21:03.540
Um, and it is dating related because I mean, should you go public?
02:21:09.360
Um, I do think Daisy, uh, I do think you escalated things here.
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But I do think this was an unnecessary escalation.
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I think, I do think you're in the wrong, uh, in multiple ways here.
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Uh, and in life, people are going to mess up again.
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I'm not saying fresh with Walter, what he did was perfect.
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I don't necessarily think it means you have to go public though.
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And I think it made the whole situation, uh, bad for you made it bad for them.
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Uh, and I do, you know, I, again, I'll know all the details of your guys's private relationship.
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I do think though, that leaking it, leaking the private calls, recording it pre all premeditated.
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In my view, I think what you did is worse than what he did.
02:22:25.960
Uh, my point is if I didn't leak the message, he would have never take any punishment from
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And I would be only the only one who gets punished.
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Like punished by making me into the situation that I would be the only one that's suffering
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from this, the whole process that getting pregnant, be a single mother without, without
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Well, you would have opted for the abortion even if you hadn't gone public, right?
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Like you would have, even if you, let's say you didn't go public, you kept everything private.
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I mean, you would have still gotten the abortion.
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But when I called him, I was sure I wanted the baby.
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When I just find out I'm pregnant, I was really surprised and I was really happy.
02:23:17.000
Um, yeah, so my, my point is if I die, he die with me.
02:23:34.600
Because then he needs to get his punishment anyway.
02:23:39.060
But okay, so I'm, I'm still a little confused, you know.
02:23:45.320
But it doesn't sound like, I mean, you're not, um.
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No, but I mean, like, you don't, you don't take issue with him breaking up with you, correct?
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A lot of people don't understand why I did that.
02:24:25.400
But when you, there's a quote or a saying, it goes something like, if you seek revenge,
02:24:33.560
Because, I mean, look, you got, I guess you kind of got revenge on him.
02:24:41.140
Um, it seems like a lot of negative attention came your way too.
02:24:46.960
Uh, you, you know, probably, I assume it's been super stressful, more stressful than it
02:25:17.640
But, so if your mission was to get revenge on him, um, now that it's clear, like, perhaps
02:25:26.780
if you had continued with the pregnancy, that would have been a stronger position.
02:25:35.060
But you actually realize that this whole thing was probably the most viral that, like, they've
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got so much attention from this that it's actually probably, to some degree, actually
02:25:52.460
People have been, you know, tuning in, continuing to tune in.
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Did you get a lot of, like, attention when it was going on?
02:25:59.780
Did you, like, benefit from the attention at all?
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At least, at least for me, I don't know how they view it.
02:26:07.840
I don't, I actually, me personally, even if, you know, getting negative, like, being involved
02:26:12.420
in some drama gets me more viewers, I actually dislike that.
02:26:15.620
Like, I'd rather not get, like, uh, like, uh, negative attention.
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And if that means I don't get as many viewers from it, I'm fine because I personally don't
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But, so I don't know for them if they feel the same.
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I don't know for them, though, if they feel the same way with negative attention.
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Some people like negative attention because it comes with, there will be people who, oh,
02:26:41.860
This has definitely, like, been a huge windfall for them in terms of audience, attention,
02:26:49.160
So, you've almost done them this sort of, like, perhaps, uh, accidental additional benefit.
02:27:01.240
Because they're only going to be attract people that's who's similar behavior as them.
02:27:06.420
But, like, you almost gave, like, you've given them.
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Those people are not going to be successful because...
02:27:10.800
Well, I think they're, they're doing pretty well, aren't they?
02:27:13.840
But you get, but, like, okay, if their goal is, like, we want as much attention on our
02:27:19.320
podcast as possible, because the whole narrative of, like, hey, Fresh, he's this, uh, you know,
02:27:25.460
uh, that whole narrative is gone now that you got the abortion.
02:27:29.220
Like, the whole thing of, like, it being an own, like, he's going to be on the hook for
02:27:33.780
You're going to, like, take him, you know, take him to task in the family court system.
02:27:38.820
So, he got all the, they got all that attention.
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So, I mean, just from the argument of, like, you're trying to take them down, get revenge.
02:27:47.120
This has brought so much attention to them, whilst a lot of it negative, it's also been
02:27:53.400
beneficial in the, in the sense of, you just boosted their viewer, like, their viewer count
02:28:04.600
So, anyways, um, I do need a $30,000 purse, though, just saying.
02:28:10.380
Just very briefly, very briefly, to follow on that.
02:28:12.600
I just was wondering, what does Buddhism say about revenge?
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Does it say that you should avoid revenge at all costs?
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Like, I, as I, as I said, I've never done anything like that.
02:28:40.080
But adhering to Buddhism, you would have to say that Buddhism, especially, is against
02:28:52.580
No, let us assume for a second that, um, I've called this man directly and given him my
02:28:59.320
critiques of his behavior, uh, but regardless of that, why would that somehow mean that I
02:29:09.340
Well, we can accept critiques, but what about Fresh?
02:29:15.440
Right now, we're just talking specifically about your purview, how you are viewing the
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It's always easy to make an obfuscation and say, what about this person?
02:29:36.880
Right now, we're just talking about everything from your perspective.
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And I'm not being, I don't think I've been overly critical here at all.
02:29:44.140
I've just asked you some very, very basic questions about your worldview.
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But we would also like to hear about critiques on Fresh.
02:30:00.060
I, at least from my thing, don't have beef with these guys.
02:30:04.800
My critique would be, you probably shouldn't be blasting girls if they're not on birth control.
02:30:12.440
That's a, that's a, I mean, it feels good, but you probably shouldn't be doing it.
02:30:23.640
Walter, there's plenty of girls, Walter, there's plenty of girls in Miami on birth control, buddy.
02:30:37.900
Can we internalize that critique, though, Noelle?
02:30:50.320
So, I mean, you're saying that it's irresponsible for fresh to come and you're fine, but you
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also, unfortunately, you are guilty of the same criticism, right, which is that you are
02:31:01.940
the receiver and allow yourself to receive a man's seed.
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You're just as responsible as the man for giving it to you.
02:31:11.540
Well, it's not exactly in a woman's control for a dude to blast in them, and I think we
02:31:16.700
Is it within a woman's control to let him stick his penis in her without a condom on?
02:31:22.100
And what would the general resulting thing of that be if a man is having sex with a woman
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If you allow a man to have sex with you without a condom on, you're not on any birth control,
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So, you are just as responsible as the person who you're criticizing for the action.
02:31:51.400
It seems to me that this is a kind of a deflection, right?
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That you're deflecting away from your own personal responsibility in this.
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I could admit that I could have been more responsible.
02:32:02.760
If you got pregnant, were you okay with having his kid, or would you have not?
02:32:08.720
No, but if I had been irresponsible enough to get pregnant, then I would have taken responsibility
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But it would have been as much your irresponsibility as it would have been his.
02:32:24.020
Yeah, and if you can admit that, then I'll give the criticism both ways, tell this guy
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you should wrap it up, but also tell you that you should close your legs, right?
02:32:32.300
Like, these are fair criticisms both ways, aren't they?
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But also, it was discussed beforehand that he should not be doing that, and I told him
02:32:46.860
Well, absent him forcing you to, which is not a claim you've made, in fact, you have
02:32:55.100
Because he didn't force me down and pin me down, he just did it without, like, it was...
02:32:59.600
But you knew his dick was going inside of you with no...
02:33:01.680
Did you, okay, so did you tell him at any time, no, you need to go put a condom on before
02:33:09.820
Then, no, if the answer is no, then, then what are you talking about here?
02:33:19.880
Even if he didn't, you still have pre-cum and everything else that you potentially have
02:33:24.260
to deal with, even if he didn't, you're no fool.
02:33:29.600
You know that the precondition of accepting a man's penis inside of you, who does not have
02:33:35.240
a condom on, could inevitably lead to pregnancy.
02:33:40.060
If he's not ejaculating into you, the chances of you getting pregnant are significantly lower
02:33:48.960
So, I mean, you not telling him to go, hey, I'm not going to accept you without a condom
02:33:58.280
He still shouldn't have just blasted in me without telling me.
02:34:01.320
And you shouldn't have allowed him to enter you with no condom on, right?
02:34:05.720
Wait, one question on the whole blasting inside.
02:34:18.320
Did you say, like, but I want you to pull out or?
02:34:22.860
I literally did not know he was going to do it.
02:34:32.360
How do you reconcile the fact that you allowed him to do it a second time, knowing he had
02:34:38.800
The first time we had sex, that's when he did it.
02:34:58.280
So, it stands to reason, if the first time he blasts inside you, and you let him enter
02:35:02.760
you again unprotected, that you would have the expectation that he may not pull out, right?
02:35:09.280
Well, I think my reaction was enough for him to not do it the second time.
02:35:14.140
But if you let him enter you again, without a condom on, a second time, you're still running
02:35:31.840
But there was no conversation, like, even before the first time, you weren't like, hey,
02:35:36.520
I'm cool with not using a condom, but maybe you could pull out.
02:35:42.240
Or, I think you said it was in the heat of the moment.
02:35:52.760
There wasn't anything like, how did the condom conversation go?
02:36:00.680
Prior to me going out there, which I've said this before, I told him I'm not on birth control.
02:36:12.340
And then in the heat of the moment, things happen.
02:36:17.380
So, there was no actual in, like, in the moment, there wasn't actually, like, either from you, like, oh, do you have a condom?
02:36:24.360
There was never any actual in the moment, like, any conversation on his part, your part about protection.
02:36:31.380
And I accepted, you know, this could end in pregnancy.
02:36:45.900
Just like how a condom prevents sperm from getting to the egg, so does plan B.
02:36:50.880
So, that wouldn't, you wouldn't consider that to be any type of abortion?
02:37:06.800
Like, what position were you in when he blasted?
02:37:09.780
Because if you're on top, it's, like, it's a little harder to pull out.
02:37:19.260
I couldn't just shove him off of me, and I'm not going to, because I was attracted to him, you know?
02:37:30.400
So, just, I have a couple notes for you, then I'm going to pass it on over to Andrew, and then hopefully
02:37:36.420
soon we'll get the whole panel in on something.
02:37:38.020
I'll be very brief, I promise, and I won't, I'm not going to be mean.
02:37:46.300
I think you have very good questions that make people think, and, look, I have no problem
02:37:53.400
So, one minute, Mark, we already went over this.
02:37:55.900
You said that you followed the Fresh and Fit podcast, a whole bunch.
02:38:00.860
At 3.30 in the video, the We Are the Victims, Are We the Victims video, you said coercion
02:38:07.300
is illegal, and we already had a conversation about coercion.
02:38:10.980
At 3.50, you say forced her to get an abortion.
02:38:17.680
I think I asked Daisy her view on that, but so, do you view that Walter forced her to get
02:38:34.080
I don't think she was physically forced, but coercion is an actual thing.
02:38:41.940
So, what specifically did Myron or Walter do, which is coercion?
02:38:48.960
So, saying that you don't want to have a kid, and that you don't have money for it, and then
02:38:54.400
intimidating her online, embarrassing her, accusing her of being an escort, that's all
02:38:59.860
You're intentionally trying to persuade someone.
02:39:02.020
So, are you saying totality of the circumstances?
02:39:05.580
Actually, Ryan, I can just grant this as being true.
02:39:08.120
So, let's just grant for a second that that's true.
02:39:12.140
You would have to give the same criticism the other way for coercion, that she was trying
02:39:16.320
to coerce him to give her something that he did not want to give her by this same logic,
02:39:22.740
She provided the texts and the receipts where he was pretty much okay with her having a
02:39:27.880
Right, but I guess the point is, is that if it is coercion, if it is to say that due to
02:39:34.240
the actions of objecting to the various things that people do, if the other direction is vengeance
02:39:41.980
is being sought, isn't that also, in and of itself, a form of coercion saying, do this
02:39:49.920
When it's not pertaining to abortion, yes, that is a form of coercion aside from the specific
02:39:58.160
Yeah, so I would say that wasn't there coercion both ways then?
02:40:03.120
Both ways, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's not okay for men to try and
02:40:07.660
tell women whether they can have a child or not.
02:40:12.660
I think in your worldview it is okay to even tell people that they can't cheat or men will
02:40:20.100
Don't you think within your worldview it's perfectly acceptable, in fact, for men to tell
02:40:23.700
women whether or not they should be able to have an abortion?
02:40:27.580
Wait, Andrew, do you mean within her worldview men would...
02:40:33.600
Yeah, men saying you shouldn't get an abortion.
02:40:37.680
Well, I'm just saying that you seem to adhere to kind of the idea that men can pass laws
02:40:49.020
The question here becomes, if this is really coercion, if the case here is this was coercive
02:40:55.980
and you admit that then it had to have been coercive both ways, how the hell do we determine
02:41:06.320
Yeah, if it's coercive both ways, if it's vengeance for the sake of do this or else, how is that
02:41:19.320
Yeah, I know, but I'm asking her directly because I want to hear her opinion.
02:41:22.740
I don't think anyone is right in this situation.
02:41:24.560
I think he is very wrong to have deceived her and, like, sell her the dream, and I don't think
02:41:37.320
Well, is coercion a first come, first serve, Daisy?
02:41:43.860
Is it a who got to the coercion first is the one who's actually wrong?
02:41:49.200
Or is it that two rights don't make a wrong, that even if somebody did coerce you, it's
02:41:59.140
She was coerced to do something physical that has a detriment on her body.
02:42:05.420
Couldn't coercion the opposite way, reputational slander, things like this, lead to men doing
02:42:11.300
self-harm the same exact way that Daisy claims self-harm was done to her?
02:42:21.880
Well, the thing is, is that if you are coercing a person and it affects their mental illness
02:42:27.640
on the other side, couldn't they easily commit the same type of self-harm that you're objecting
02:42:33.360
to that you're claiming here, Daisy, was subjected to?
02:42:37.380
Wouldn't that be the same exact entailment of that, that the coercion led to her doing
02:42:42.460
Why would the coercion in the other direction not lead to self-harm as well?
02:42:47.600
Yeah, I mean, it didn't, but it could have, right?
02:42:53.700
If you say that, he could also have got her pregnant.
02:42:58.580
So the thing is, is like, in your case, it also...
02:43:08.500
So if the coercion goes the other direction, then it also didn't have to lead to self-harm,
02:43:17.480
Right, that's right, it's an indictment of both of you, right?
02:43:22.900
Did he put her in the risk that she could be pregnant?
02:43:29.340
Wait, did she put herself also, Daisy, at risk of becoming pregnant?
02:43:33.340
She didn't put herself at risk of becoming pregnant?
02:43:44.960
Why don't you guys, like, just can't understand...
02:43:47.920
Does a man put his penis inside of a vagina for babies to get made, Daisy?
02:43:56.880
They're taking control, the men taking control.
02:44:00.740
No, I think that women have an equal amount of control for whether or not they open their
02:44:05.220
Okay, now you're talking about women have equality.
02:44:10.160
So now you're talking about women have equality?
02:44:15.480
If women have equal responsibility for the action of sex...
02:44:23.740
So, wait a second, I just want to make sure I got this right.
02:44:28.460
So, men led you to having sex with them, unprotected, and it's their fault.
02:44:40.540
I don't have responsibility if I wanted the baby.
02:44:57.120
Should men be able to tell you that you can't have an abortion?
02:45:02.700
Oh, well, I thought they were the leaders five seconds ago.
02:45:12.300
And so, therefore, because they're the leaders, we have no way to take responsibility for sex.
02:45:19.100
I just asked you if men should be able to tell you if you can have an abortion.
02:45:21.300
Men shouldn't be able to tell me to get an abortion, but he did it anyway.
02:45:36.860
Yeah, but can he tell you not to have an abortion?
02:45:39.000
Should he be able to tell you that, that you're not allowed to?
02:45:47.980
So, then men are not the leaders by your own worldview.
02:45:51.620
Because you're saying that women have autonomy over pregnancy.
02:45:55.420
Therefore, they have autonomy in the gatekeepers of sex.
02:45:59.540
I think you just don't understand that women cannot control when the man decided to come inside her.
02:46:09.060
And she control her legs opening and closing, Daisy?
02:46:13.120
Come inside a woman and open the leg, there are different things.
02:46:17.120
I think you're just playing the words because we understand.
02:46:38.660
Whether or not I think he did wrong, would that in any way...
02:46:40.720
You just don't want to admit it, Dad, because you're the man.
02:46:45.080
But we'll just assume that I think he did the wrongest thing on planet Earth.
02:46:48.320
How does that get you off the hook for your responsibility that he did something bad?
02:46:57.460
Am I here talking to him or am I here talking to you?
02:47:05.380
If I'm here talking to you, you're the person who I'm talking to, who I'm discussing the choices...
02:47:18.140
I'm happy to criticize him to his face like I am to you.
02:47:22.420
But it doesn't get you off the hook for any wrongdoing that you have done just because
02:47:38.280
And you're talking about both of our situations.
02:47:41.200
Yeah, but right now I'm just talking about how you see the situation from your perspective.
02:47:55.720
Well, it seems to me like this was perhaps some form of entrapment, ultimately.
02:48:03.540
It looks to me like you wanted, as you admitted, some sort of revenge on this guy for the fact
02:48:12.420
You committed a felony by recording him and releasing it.
02:48:16.780
And then on top of that, as you guys began to get into this, you said that your entire
02:48:21.760
motivation around this was purely revenge related.
02:48:29.700
From my perspective, should I believe you are credible in any way?
02:48:38.400
And I don't care if you do or not, because I know what happened, and I provide all the
02:48:50.360
The people who are not agree with me because they are the fan of Fresh and Fit.
02:48:56.020
You don't have to agree with me, and you don't have to take accountability for him, and you
02:49:01.440
You haven't been through what I have been through.
02:49:25.400
It should be like a screenshot, black, white text.
02:49:38.100
I'm here to stand out as a woman, as a victim in a relationship, as a mom.
02:49:45.940
I think we already talked about the victim stuff a little bit.
02:49:50.540
We'll just go through the receipts really quick just to show them.
02:49:52.600
So this is you, and you posted these to your story.
02:49:58.820
You said you want to keep the baby, don't want to kill a life.
02:50:22.600
So you said not being a good human for wanting the abort-
02:50:35.240
He says he said, I don't want kids right now, and we spoke about it, and you agreed.
02:50:45.860
Yeah, we have to review the words when they said and what actually happened.
02:50:50.420
What actually happened is he did it not inside of me every day, and I'm pregnant.
02:50:59.920
If I did agree with him, I would have already taken a pill.
02:51:35.080
I have suffered many days before I decided to tell everyone what happened.
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I need to help other girls to know it's true color.
02:52:21.620
So, Noelle, you were talking about, like, this coercion thing forced her to get an abortion.
02:52:27.200
You said that, I was about to say something about that, it's the totality of the circumstances.
02:52:33.600
What were some of the ways that he, you said he coerced her or forced her to get an abortion?
02:52:38.440
So, you said there was the, you listed, like, four things.
02:52:41.620
Yeah, telling her that he can't have kids, that he can't afford it, putting it online, intimidating her online, embarrassing her online.
02:52:56.200
It was saying that he doesn't want kids or that he can't have kids.
02:53:04.180
He speculated that he had a vasectomy, and then he's lying about that, and then-
02:53:08.600
Well, did he mean he doesn't want kids or can't have kids, more so from, like, I don't want to have kids right now?
02:53:17.480
If he had had a vasectomy, then is it in any way, shape, or form possible for the gal next to you to have gotten pregnant?
02:53:25.880
Yeah, it's a very slim chance, but it could still happen.
02:53:32.940
And are you claiming that he's had a vasectomy?
02:53:41.120
You were talking about there's this website, so we actually found it.
02:54:03.860
Forcing a woman to have an abortion, including minor, is illegal in all 50 states of the United States of America.
02:54:13.340
Any individual who attempts to use force or coercion could be subject to criminal or civil liability, including child abuse, fetal homicide, domestic partner violence.
02:54:36.460
Women who first learn or suspect they are pregnant may feel pressured to an abortion, including from the parent, the baby's father, school counselor, blah, blah, blah.
02:54:45.460
So it's illegal to feel pressured or to be pressured to have an abortion.
02:54:56.960
I don't know if there's actually there's actually a law making it illegal to pressure somebody.
02:55:03.660
Like, let's say you were dating a guy and like every time you hung out with him, he was like, I don't know.
02:55:12.740
I don't know if that's how could that ever be illegal?
02:55:17.320
When women are pregnant, they're hormonal and emotional.
02:55:21.460
Okay, but I'm this website is not citing an actual law.
02:55:27.040
I would like to see an actual codified law called who?
02:55:37.460
That's that's the main reason why this website is exist.
02:55:50.960
Is it illegal to be like, babe, please get an abortion?
02:55:56.920
I can't see how that would ever be against the law.
02:55:59.880
Because you can't ask or tell a woman what to do when she's pregnant.
02:56:04.560
Okay, it's not clear to me if it's it might not be the nice thing to do.
02:56:08.640
But how could it be illegal to be like, how about this?
02:56:24.320
And if you would that doesn't is that coercion?
02:56:27.500
No, because that's not pertaining to reproductive like organs.
02:56:35.800
But we're talking specifically about laws on coercion towards abortion.
02:56:41.580
But if it would be coercion towards one thing, you would assume that that would apply to the other thing as well.
02:56:55.920
But if coercion is coercion, then Brian's point of asking you, just like I did earlier, somebody did the exact same thing begging for sex.
02:57:05.060
I don't really understand where we delineate between where coercion for abortion isn't like coercion for basically just anything.
02:57:13.960
Well, because we're not talking about anything.
02:57:21.400
Would it be coercive and would it be coercion if you're dating a girl to tell her, say she gets pregnant and you don't want to have the kid as the guy and you say, babe, I'm not ready for the kid.
02:57:49.360
Would it be coercion for him to say, babe, please get an abortion?
02:57:54.200
The best thing would be for guys just to not say anything at all.
02:58:01.880
They should just tell you, I will support whatever decision you need.
02:58:12.180
Do you agree that men should try to coerce their women to keep the child instead of aborting it?
02:58:17.740
Well, I think because you're already having sex and accepting that you will get pregnant, then.
02:58:23.840
Yeah, but she wants to abort it and he doesn't want her to.
02:58:27.380
In your worldview, should he try to coerce her to not murder the child?
02:58:38.400
But my question is, if it comes to coercion in your worldview, would you prefer that he coerced her into keeping the child?
02:58:47.080
Me, personally, I think men should coerce whoever to keep the child.
02:58:53.440
A coercion is actually fine just depending on worldview, right?
02:58:57.600
Well, and specifically talking about coercing a woman to abort, that's not okay.
02:59:04.840
Yeah, I know, but if coercing them not to abort is okay, then we're just talking about a worldview difference.
02:59:10.440
So if both of these people don't think that abortion is murder, then why would it not be okay for him to do a coercion towards abortion the same way you would prefer that your man coerced you to not do an abortion?
02:59:23.300
Honestly, I don't quite understand what you're trying to get at.
02:59:28.900
So assume for a second, in your worldview, you want men to coerce women to not have abortions, right?
02:59:38.300
I personally believe that abortion is murder, so I would hope that men would convince their woman to keep the child.
02:59:48.680
Yes, that is coercion, but I'm talking about coercing someone to abort.
02:59:53.600
What if both of them don't believe that it's an actual child, then why shouldn't the man coerce them not to have the child?
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I don't understand, because now it's just a worldview difference, right?
03:00:07.000
You want them to coerce based on what the best outcome is, clearly.
03:00:12.820
I would want women to keep their children and not abort them.
03:00:21.800
But if the other two people did not believe like you did, and they both thought that it was not a child,
03:00:27.840
then what would actually be the problem with the coercion in that case, from your worldview?
03:00:44.640
But she still didn't want to, so I guess that's based on how that person feels.
03:00:49.320
Like if you said, you said that even if the woman wanted to abort, though, you'd want coercion on the other end.
03:00:59.240
It's like, it seems like it's holding a dualistic standard to say that because you believe it's a child, you want coercion that way.
03:01:08.200
But if they don't believe it's a child, you wouldn't want coercion the other way.
03:01:15.980
So you're saying voters should not take any responsibilities for this situation?
03:01:20.800
No, I'm saying that paradigms, I'm saying that when you look at worldview paradigms, it's important to understand that within her worldview, actually coercion is fine as long as it's on behalf of the things she wants it for.
03:01:41.120
My point is I wanted to have this kid with him, not alone.
03:01:49.380
But the thing is, is that you believe that ultimately it's up to you to be able to make that decision, correct?
03:01:56.900
Yeah, I get what you're trying to do with the analogies with coercion in different situations, but I was talking specifically on coercing a woman to abort.
03:02:09.620
Yeah, I'm talking specifically on that too, which is why I asked you if a woman wanted to abort, should a man coerce her not to?
03:02:18.080
I don't think a man should coerce a woman to abort, but yes.
03:02:27.380
Yeah, so if that's fine, then what you're saying is that coercion actually is fine as long as it's just towards the things you want it to be fine for.
03:02:36.780
I just don't think it's okay for a man to tell a woman to abort.
03:02:38.900
So that's my whole point here is that it seems that diametrically you don't even have a problem with coercion.
03:02:46.260
As long as it's to coerce people for what it is that you want, right?
03:03:06.500
I just wanted to dive into a couple of quick questions for you before I turn it back over to Brian.
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Can you actually prove in any way, shape, or form that this was Walter's child to begin with?
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First of all, he did not deny it's his baby because he know on the record.
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I know I don't have any medical proof to prove that it's his child.
03:03:45.860
But there is a law that during this time, I was with him in his bedroom, sleeping under his roof, from the time when I met him, when I saw him.
03:04:03.940
Why should we actually assume that this was his child?
03:04:08.380
So then why he didn't stand up and say it's not his child in the beginning?
03:04:13.640
Well, I mean, didn't you abort before a DNA test could be done?
03:04:19.020
But didn't you do an abortion before a DNA test could be done?
03:04:27.680
But do you know how far along before he can do a DNA test?
03:04:34.940
I thought it was really far along in the pregnancy.
03:04:51.280
If that was the only guy she was sleeping with, then who else would it be?
03:04:59.600
Why should we actually make any assumptions absent proof or evidence?
03:05:12.580
Well, I mean, the thing is, is that absent proof or evidence?
03:05:16.520
Why should we just assume that this was Walter's child?
03:05:21.000
Well, the burden of proof would be on you, not on me.
03:05:24.000
Why didn't he stand up and say, it's not my child?
03:05:38.200
I'll admit it could have been, but we don't actually have any proof that it was.
03:05:43.400
You're saying that because I abrored the kid, and I asked him many times.
03:05:48.360
So how could we ever make the determination as to whose kid it was?
03:05:55.520
Judge would know that I got pregnant during the time I stayed in his house.
03:06:05.760
I just have one quick follow-up, and then I'll turn it right back over.
03:06:13.260
When you got your pregnancy test, I just want to be clear.
03:06:17.860
How far along were you when you got your pregnancy test?
03:06:23.860
All I know is when I saw him on March 12th, oh, March 9th, I just finished my period.
03:06:43.480
And did you have an actual ultrasound, or did you have a just like a peed on it thing?
03:06:49.160
I had blood test both and the pregnancy test, blood test.
03:07:09.780
So I just want to make sure that you had an ultrasound for that, and that, so it was past eight weeks?
03:07:27.960
If you had to guess, how long was it for the ultrasound?
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Like, just do the calculation from March 9th till April 1st.
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I'm just doing a little bit of basic research, and it looks to me, now I could be totally wrong on this.
03:07:59.300
I just wanted to speak to it, that usually ultrasounds aren't done until the six-week marker.
03:08:09.320
First time, ultrasound, there was like very, very little duct, and the doctor said it's not clear to see.
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And then on March 15th, I got another ultrasound.
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I just wanted to make sure I got, I just wanted to make sure I was clear on it.
03:08:36.140
I want to try, if possible, to just get through all of them as quick as I can, and then I'll pass to Andrew if you have anything,
03:08:42.980
and then I will just move on to the regular show because we have been, just to be considerate of the other panelists here,
03:08:51.180
we've been talking about this most of the show for quite a long time.
03:08:55.700
So, Noel, going back to you, you said that at the 15-minute mark of that We Are the Victims video,
03:09:03.460
you said something along the lines of you're leaking private information about Myron, about his condom usage, Plan B usage.
03:09:12.880
That came, I don't know, do you have something against Myron too?
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I just think they're both hypocrites, and that's not really private information.
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He has like a drawer full of Plan Bs in one of his, his old condo or whatever.
03:09:32.040
I was just going to, I don't know, I feel like it's always, again, I feel like I'm old school.
03:09:36.580
I don't ever leak anything private when it comes to friends, family, and relationships.
03:09:41.840
I was just going to see if you feel like it's appropriate to, although you're claiming it's already public information.
03:09:50.720
it's not legal to manipulate someone into an abortion.
03:09:59.100
Although it's not clear to me, like, for example, the phone call that Walter and Daisy had,
03:10:08.020
any, and maybe I should wait until Daisy's back to ask this,
03:10:11.780
but is any of the conduct that you heard in that phone call, the leaked phone call between Walter and Daisy,
03:10:17.140
was anything there that he said coercion or manipulative?
03:10:28.640
Okay, what specifically did he say that you viewed as coercive?
03:10:32.800
I mean, telling her that he doesn't want to have a kid, that he, I mean, I've been over this,
03:10:39.640
I mean, I'm not sure precisely if it actually is a crime, but assuming it is,
03:10:43.620
you would be totally fine with Walter being prosecuted for saying, I don't want to have a kid.
03:10:50.080
You think that that ought to be criminally prosecuted?
03:10:54.500
I don't agree with what he did, and I don't really have an opinion.
03:10:58.920
Well, just to answer the question, do you think it should be criminally prosecuted for a man to say to a woman
03:11:02.940
who's pregnant with his child, for that man to say, I don't want to have this kid?
03:11:12.840
Do you think that should be criminally, do you think saying, I don't want to have a kid,
03:11:33.380
If it's the law, and it could be implemented, and they could go to court and be found guilty for that, then sure.
03:11:38.160
All right, at the 2345 mark, you say, this is why women don't come out in reference to, I guess, you know, their conduct.
03:11:57.540
No, just the stuff about, with Daisy, about telling her to abort it, and then about, like, the stuff with me.
03:12:08.100
Like, you said, this is why women don't come out.
03:12:14.560
Like, are you trying to, like, are you trying to me-too Walter over consensual sex?
03:12:19.500
I'm just trying to show people that he's a massive hypocrite.
03:12:24.220
Will you yourself sign on to a lawsuit suing Walter for coercion?
03:12:47.760
Is this really just a case of you kind of regretted the experience or you had a bad time with this guy?
03:12:57.040
I just, people should see that he's a massive hypocrite and women should know.
03:13:04.240
He plays the red pill card and he's going to go and tell a woman to have an abortion.
03:13:09.560
I don't think red pillers are necessarily against abortion.
03:13:26.840
She was just trying to help me, like, as woman to woman because she failed me and something happened similar.
03:13:31.960
Something similar happened to her, so she failed me.
03:13:37.900
Does it sound logical to both of you from our end hearing this, that since both of you interlocked with the same man and you both had bad experiences with him,
03:13:47.400
that because Daisy here saw this as an act of revenge, that you assisted her with it because you also wanted, in your own way, a little bit of payback?
03:14:03.540
Yeah, I know, but isn't that in and of itself some payback?
03:14:07.600
Sure, a little bit, but that's not the intention.
03:14:10.980
Isn't it, though, like, what would the opposite to the intention be if it wasn't to kind of get a little bit of revenge, a little bit of payback for what you feel like he did to you?
03:14:34.520
If you don't care, then can I get a commitment from you here on out that you'll just cease attempting to expose Walter?
03:14:44.400
Like, this is the last time I'm talking about it.
03:14:54.160
This isn't even about me trying to, like, get in good with-
03:15:04.260
No, but all I'm saying is people see what happened here.
03:15:07.860
I'm okay to take my accountability, but we also have to see my point of view, why I did that in the beginning.
03:15:17.200
It's not like he treat me good, all of a sudden, I expose him.
03:16:07.720
Could his ex want a little bit of revenge as well?
03:16:09.540
But why is everyone trying to take advantage of him?
03:16:13.420
Well, it seems like there's a lot of women who are out to get a little bit of revenge.
03:16:30.780
Daisy, do you have anything, you know, a little on the frisky side?
03:16:37.120
Maybe you like a guy to play with your knee or something.
03:16:48.160
Daisy, if we were dating and you bought me a $30,000 purse, and we've been intimate,
03:16:54.520
we've been dating, and you're like, Brian, I really like it when you touch my clavicle.
03:17:07.660
If you did something crazy, like you like to make like cat noises or some shit, I wouldn't
03:17:12.740
come out and be like, hey, yo, Daisy, she like wants to be a cat while we're having-
03:17:21.400
Yeah, I know, but why don't we pull up some evidence that when he done wrong, things wrong,
03:17:31.400
I'm just saying, would you like it if a guy leaked to the world intimate details about-
03:17:38.940
With great accusation comes a great responsibility to prove said accusation.
03:17:52.300
He defensively, he has defended himself, but he did not go publicly and accuse her of anything.
03:18:00.220
But he did not defend on himself that the fact he didn't make me pregnant.
03:18:07.740
Why did he try to make people distracted from what situation is about?
03:18:15.580
You publicly went after him, recorded him, and then-
03:18:22.320
Once you did that, of course people want you to be able to prove your accusations.
03:18:33.820
Andrew, do you think men should step up in situations like these and take on the responsibility?
03:18:43.260
If the situation is that you get a woman pregnant, should you take care of your child?
03:18:49.820
In this particular case, though, I'm not certain that that's actually what happened here.
03:18:56.220
And I'm not convinced that that's what happened here.
03:18:58.740
And there's more holes in this story than a block of Swiss cheese.
03:19:05.120
And I'm not so sure that this is exactly how things went down just because they're presented that way.
03:19:13.460
The more that we question it, the more that we start to get to the bottom of it, the more this looks like a revenge blot by the admission of both of you to try to get some kind of backseat at these guys.
03:19:24.480
Because they basically fucked you, or he fucked you and dumped you, right?
03:19:28.500
I mean, basically, he fucked you both, and then he dumped you both, and you're pissed off.
03:19:33.480
Then every time I try to go in the queries and give you a chance to defend yourselves against that allegation that I'm making, you basically prove it true over and over and over again by your own logic and reasoning.
03:19:44.920
If you love something that I could prove that he's an asshole.
03:19:52.860
Brian, I ask you, if I send you a video, would you play right now?
03:20:03.100
Okay, let's just be fair right here, right now.
03:20:11.020
I don't think it was fair for you guys to leak the nipple play stuff.
03:20:21.200
Would you like it if a guy shared intimate details?
03:20:30.060
Any of you got, like, a weird kink or anything, you know?
03:20:32.560
You wouldn't want a partner to leak that shit about you.
03:20:45.220
Especially if you're going to be fucking so many different people.
03:21:14.640
Let me just get through this, then I'll look at the video.
03:21:26.860
I think we give this another 10 minutes tops, then we got to move on.
03:21:34.860
Oh, at 5640, you said you realize that having sex doesn't mean you're not traditional.
03:21:41.860
You still hold the same traditional beliefs the man should provide.
03:21:53.140
And this is in reference to the fact that you did, you hooked up with Fresh, you know, pretty quickly.
03:22:03.360
But I did want to offer a little pushback there.
03:22:07.060
I would argue that having casual sex doesn't really fall into being like a traditional Christian woman.
03:22:23.100
Even the best of Christians, they still do things that, you know, they're not necessarily supposed to.
03:22:34.000
Last time we talked about this, that ship has sailed.
03:22:38.120
No, but what I'm saying is, let's say you met a fantastic, good value Christian man.
03:22:47.600
But the issue is finding one that will wait until marriage.
03:22:51.440
But do you think it would be a hard sale to that kind of guy who has those kind of values
03:22:59.060
to learn that you got flown out by top dog podcaster, you had sex with him, you stepped
03:23:11.320
through his door, you guys basically got right down to business.
03:23:17.180
Yeah, we were already talking before I came out there for a couple of weeks.
03:23:19.700
And he also made her feel like he wanted to make her a girlfriend.
03:23:24.700
Look, me personally, I'm not a big fan of waiting.
03:23:27.140
But if you're going to hold yourself out as this traditional Christian woman, and then
03:23:32.680
it's like you got flown out, you, you know, smash them really quick.
03:23:36.420
That's the first time I've ever been flown out.
03:23:45.340
The only way she could do is fly out to see him.
03:23:53.280
I don't go having one night stands or hooking up with people.
03:24:01.220
So when you were on our show, you were in a, you had just gone out of a relationship.
03:24:05.360
If I recall, you were on our show in November of 2023.
03:24:14.400
In December, you had a sexual relationship with Fresh.
03:24:19.400
And then you said that you broke up two months ago and you were again in a relationship,
03:24:33.320
And were there any other sexual relationships at all?
03:24:40.160
I mean, it's just, I'm a little confused here about the whole being traditional.
03:25:20.800
He played it off like he was trying to pursue me.
03:25:23.040
And like I said in the last one, I'm very transparent when I start talking to a guy.
03:25:26.640
I tell them, look, I'm only interested in marriage and having children.
03:25:29.680
So if he's going to lie and deceive, that's not on me.
03:25:37.620
But, and I do want to point out, you said you'd been following their podcast for a while.
03:25:43.920
Did you think that flying, did you think that flying out to Miami and staying with this guy
03:25:56.340
I didn't just talk to him one time and fly out.
03:26:01.120
I mean, he flew you out there because he was going to, you were going to smash, right?
03:26:05.020
Like that's what, that's what was going to go down.
03:26:12.440
She admitted, she just admitted she knew what the intentions were.
03:26:16.260
Fresh was probably like, yo, we're going to fuck, right?
03:26:25.660
Do you really think, do you really think, do you really think, do you really think he
03:26:29.240
was like, this was the guy you're going to marry?
03:26:34.720
Were you like, yo, Walter, I'm going to marry you.
03:26:35.960
But like, what were the odds that you thought that he was the man that you're going to marry?
03:26:38.800
Because if you've seen the show before, like it can, it should be quite obvious that he's not married.
03:26:43.960
Wait, did you know he had a thousand body count?
03:26:47.120
When I flew out to see him, I did not know that.
03:26:50.220
And like I said, I didn't know about the Hail Mary video.
03:26:53.520
I've only seen, like I said, the clips and the reels from the podcast.
03:26:57.020
But you didn't know about the thousand body count claim.
03:27:01.080
If he's like, he might be selling the dream, but if he's saying, I got a thousand body count.
03:27:06.760
A thousand one is going to be, that's going to be the one that works out.
03:27:11.080
Like I said, I didn't know about the thousand body count until afterwards.
03:27:30.420
He said, I will take a look at it and review it before I play.
03:27:36.540
Because now, right now, you try to make us look bad.
03:27:41.460
So let's just play a video when Walter admitted something.
03:27:47.040
And it kind of sounds like you guys are enabling value.
03:28:17.820
Because you guys are accusing us of being a fool.
03:28:24.200
If you want to defend on him, okay, I have no issue.
03:28:31.920
I say that whatever you play, I'll probably be able to review it in 15 seconds.
03:28:38.620
We want to be fair right here on the whatever podcast.
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I do not want to contend with any arguments that are not done in the fairest light possible.
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For some reason, I have a feeling, though, that whatever he's about to play is not going
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But then we got to, Andrew, I'll give you five, ten minutes if you got any questions.
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If you guys want, we got some chips back there.
03:29:31.540
Noelle, it seems like you do have a history of going public.
03:29:36.280
You were dating another man, and you went public about that relationship.
03:29:55.700
You don't want to get into the details, just to be clear?
03:30:09.300
Well, then, I won't pull it up, but you, you said in this, you said that he abused your
03:30:16.460
You said he became manic, threatened me, and gave me no choice but to lose my precious baby.
03:30:23.700
So, what do you mean by, and when you say lose your precious baby, I mean, I'm assuming you had.
03:30:27.860
He dragged me by the hair into his car and drove me two hours away somewhere I didn't know, and literally, quite, literally forced me to get one.
03:30:36.940
Well, if that, if that's what happened, that's obviously not acceptable.
03:30:48.720
Was there, was there any component of, like, telling when you did get to the hospital, being like, hey, I'm being fucking abused by mine?
03:30:57.620
If I were to say anything, it was either my life or.
03:31:11.280
Um, I think we'll, I think we'll pull up the video.
03:31:16.500
Is it, it's not deceptively edited, though, is it?
03:31:21.920
Well, just to be fair, since you requested, I'm not going to just, you know, be like, here's all, you're not going to be allowed to share anything, not share any proof or anything.
03:31:31.980
Just to be fair, Nick, I'm going to send this in the private chat.
03:31:48.180
And these other women have been waiting patiently for us to get to them.
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And both of you need to get up where you're at and get the fuck out of here.
03:32:02.860
Get out of here with your bullshit, false allegations.
03:32:36.800
Well, then stay in silence while we get to the rest of the girl.
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We're not staying in silence because we're the guests here.
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You're here on a visa from the Chinese government.
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This is the type of guy that's teaching you guys.
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And you couldn't, you couldn't entrap him in your little fucking CCP scam.
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And it didn't go over exactly how you thought it would go over, did it?
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When you tried to entrap this guy, did it, lady?
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I didn't like you from the first time I saw you.
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As soon as I brought up the video, you told me to leave.
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How does that make the entire CCP feel that you're down here getting impregnated and murdering your offspring?
03:34:59.960
This whole CCP angle here is totally new to me.
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Are you involved with the Communist Party of China?
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Can you badmouth the CCP for us just so that we know you're not a communist spy?
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Can you badmouth the CCP right now live on this show, or are you or can you not?
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You don't know what the Communist Party of your own country is?
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Can you criticize a single politician from your country right now?
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Because I know exactly what your country does with these entrapment work pieces.
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Because you know you're a loser and you're wrong.
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I just don't want to promote any misinformation on my platform.
03:36:17.740
Are you alleging that this whole thing, this is breaking news, that this whole thing was like some CCP attack on Walter Walter?
03:36:52.880
His show is highly political and highly politically engaged.
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It wouldn't surprise me a bit if you were part of some CCP spy network.
03:37:04.300
I didn't know that he was going to come in with the CCP angle.
03:37:08.980
I don't know where he's even getting this shit from.
03:37:19.660
Well, then stay while we get to the other fine gals who have been waiting patiently for us to talk.
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Buddhist, you decided unilaterally to kill a child.
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Andrew, want to hear from you, my spirit animal.
03:38:05.160
Just giving you guys a heads up on some of these.
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I'm going to have to read some of them because they've fallen off.
03:38:24.700
The question is, have your parents told you how they met?
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You guys will have to give quick answers on that.
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I'm going to write all these down because they're just now coming in.
03:38:43.360
We wanted to turn it off just so there weren't interruptions while we were just trying to get through the main story.
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It's going to take forever to get through all of these.
03:38:56.320
So while we're doing that, how did your parents meet?
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And my mom was definitely like a rock in my life.
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She said it's a problem, not because it's murder, but because she was forced to do something she didn't want to to an individualist.
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An individualist from the Communist Party of China?
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We've never done that before where we kind of like pause it, but just wanted to make sure we could get through everything okay.
03:40:23.280
While we're waiting for some of these to come through, we're going to ask the age-old question here.
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Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
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I was just wondering, why don't we play the video right now?
03:40:47.180
Can we just play the video if Daisy wants to see it?
03:40:51.180
Well, but now, Daisy, you're disrupting the show.
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Be kind to the other people who are on the show.
03:41:04.620
You two have proven my point of telling men to avoid all clout and money chasing demons such as yourselves.
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Streamlabs did a whole bunch of weird, weird shit.
03:41:58.600
Andrew acts holier than thou and shreds women apart for their pasts.
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But he married a 304 who had five kids by three different men.
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Unlike a certain CCP murderer who is here before you today.
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You can give all sorts of criticism to my wife because she's supposed to have my children.
03:42:30.600
But just saying, but just saying, just gonna throw this out.
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Since when did this podcast turn into the people's court?
03:42:45.600
Brian, how can you as a man sit there and allow another man to talk to your guests like that, let alone women?
03:43:00.600
If he was sitting next to me, I could, like, give him a little elbow bump.
03:43:14.600
He might be a dirtbag with poor values, but that's not a criminal offense.
03:43:18.600
You deleted your golden ticket and now you're still looking for a payday.
03:43:40.600
You have the most fantastic of all plastics at the table.
03:43:43.600
Daisy, next time have your work done in Korea, it will look much more natural.
03:43:58.600
Have you ever engaged in your life in prostitution?
03:44:10.600
How many other places get your profile on their prostitution sites?
03:44:19.600
Well, there's no less than three which have been released.
03:44:30.600
The Asian on the right is obviously here for a publicity stunt.
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Her eyebrows are fighting for the last available real estate on her forehead.
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Please have her stand in the corner for three minutes of sale.
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Daisy's been very, you know, she's been good faith.
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She's been, you know, I'm not going to do the corner thing.
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Madison, can I have you read this chat, please?
03:45:01.600
That bitch needs to shut the F up and act accordingly per her illegal status.
03:45:05.600
If she talking like that in my home, I drag her the hell out and let my dogs chase her back to the border.
03:45:12.600
Look, I mean, nobody's perfect in this situation.
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I mean, my final thought on it is I do think leaking the phone call, premeditated recording of it.
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So why don't you admit that he did wrong as well?
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But ultimately here in the United States, the ultimate arbiter of who gets to murder the child or not murder the child is the woman.
03:45:57.600
Well, my main gripe is the whole, the leaking thing.
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Uh, and I think it's a bit, uh, I don't know, a little despicable.
03:46:11.600
I feel like we're going over this topic around and around and around.
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Cause they've been sitting here for like four hours and I'm sure they want to.
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I work for the Trump campaign in the swing state of Nevada.
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Get your affairs in order because I can personally guarantee you will be deported after inauguration.
03:46:50.600
Ask everyone to rate their looks on the screen.
03:47:06.600
We have to mute your microphone for 10 minutes.
03:47:23.600
You're going to have to buy me a $30,000 purse.
03:47:54.600
He gets to pay $500 or something to mute me for 10 minutes.
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Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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Think about what you've done in the corner in a timeout.
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I could bring down the mute to like three minutes if you're willing to wear this hat.
03:50:51.600
Daisy, if you wear the hat, if you wear the hat, Daisy, there'll be no muting
03:51:57.600
I'm maybe a three five or a four or something in there.
03:52:14.600
Was it one of the chicks who got pulled out to have sex with a random guy?
03:52:19.600
I want to hear 10 minutes of Andrew Spilling sharing his thoughts.
03:52:23.600
Well, we can't give Andrew a monologue for 10 minutes, but I suppose that we were adding
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Daisy, let me get you a game where you can play well.
03:53:06.600
You know, I'll always be better looking than your child, though, Daisy.
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Because I wasn't, you know, murdered in the womb.
03:53:49.600
Like, everyone, like, has beauties in the eye of the beholder.
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But, I mean, I think that Daisy is, like, physically, I think that she looks really good, too.
03:54:00.600
So, it's like, and maybe some guy will look at her and say she's a 10.
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And, like I said, for the right guy, I'll be a 10 for him as well.
03:54:31.600
For the love of God, can we please let the other four girls talk before they decide to go home from boredom?
03:54:38.600
As a podcast host, it's honestly kind of rude to ignore them the whole show.
03:55:01.600
Actually, really quick, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
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Drop us a prime sub if you're watching over there on Twitch.
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And by the way, Maddie here is going to start doing Twitch streams.
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We're going to get that going here pretty soon.
03:55:30.600
Nick, if you're able to show the thing from this thing.
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I know another female or used to be a prominent female Twitch streamer named Destiny.
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You said you believe in traditional relationships and you have high standards in your relationship.
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You said you consider yourself more traditional because you're Mexican?
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So what do you mean by when you said you believe in traditional relationships?
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We do a segment on the show actually going around the table.
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Where we review your Instagram and we let the chat decide if you're traditional.
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So, Nick, if you could pull up Destiny's Instagram, we're going to see, is she traditional?
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Uh, okay, I think you can just kind of stop it there.
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Like, what you post on Instagram, like, what does that have to do?
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Kind of like, how you have like, your relationship.
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Even within, in the confines of being in a relationship, one component of being traditional would be your public facing modesty?
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Nowadays, um, like, I was into modeling for a long time.
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And when I got into my relationship, I made it super clear.
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Don't worry, they are used to being fucked and thrown to the curb.
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Like, she grabbed his necklace, broke his necklace.
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Cause our policy is if we're kicking someone out, we just film it.
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Like, when Nick took out his camera and started filming her.
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So, she reaches for the cameras, trying to wrestle it from him.
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So, we were talking about the whole traditional thing.
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In posting on pictures on Instagram, kind of, like, had to do with...
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Part of being a traditional woman would be being modest.
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Let's say you're walking around with your girlfriend.
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And she's just wearing, like, super revealing clothing.
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Would you agree that that would, like, not really fall into a traditional frame?
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If we were walking together in public like that?
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So, how would it be any different if it's, like, on your Instagram?
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Then I would consider myself not traditionally about what I dress and what I post.
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But inside of my relationship, I would consider myself traditional when it comes to my relationship.
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I don't post or wear anything that my boyfriend is not okay with.
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You said you dated a guy who you had to break up with because he confessed to you he was sleeping with his cousin.
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So, I was dating this guy and I was back in high school.
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And I was kind of getting suspicion about him and his cousin.
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And I know that's kind of weird, but just something was off there.
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And at first, I thought he was cheating on me with somebody else.
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And when he would go and sleep over, like, he wouldn't respond to me.
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I thought that they were, like, going out and meeting other girls or, you know, just being unfaithful.
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And it got to a point where I was super frustrated with the situation of him keeping secrets from me and being super suspicious that I confronted him.
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So, yeah, so I kind of put him in a corner and I started to question him.
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And I started to tell him that he needed to tell me, like, what was going on and be honest with me about if he was being faithful.
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And he, like, started crying and he started telling me that he was sleeping with his cousin.
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And that this has been going on since he was, like, a kid, like, younger.
04:02:58.600
Um, so he said that when he was growing up that he, um, was experimenting with his cousin.
04:03:03.600
And, um, he was experimenting with his cousin and, like, since he was younger, like, since he was, like, you know, like, 10 years old.
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And this just, and then it escalated to the point where they were sleeping together.
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How long were you with this guy and how long was he banging his same-sex cousin while you were with him?
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Um, I was in high school, so the relationship wasn't, like, like, sexual.
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Um, but, uh, because I was younger at that time.
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But he, um, I was dating him for maybe a couple of months, four or five months.
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And he, at that time, I was maybe around 16, 17, or I think 16.
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And he said that he started, like, being physical with his cousin since they were 10.
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So they had been already doing it for around six years.
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Bro, I don't want to talk about that, like, kid shit.
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Dating at a young age during your mom's passing?
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You mean you were just dating, like, other high school boys?
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Uh, we talked and dated for around a year when this happened.
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And somehow, he still found a way to cheat on me.
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And I feel like after that, I never trusted guys.
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Isn't that pretty common in Hispanic Catholic families?
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It's not uncommon to have those around 15, right?
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So, it's not that uncommon culturally for women in that age bracket to even marry at 16, is it?
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Um, in very Mexican households, like in Mexico, um, people do marry at a young age.
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But, um, my parents were studied in high school.
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They weren't very traditional except for religion.
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So, they were devout Catholics, but other than that, they were not particularly traditional
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as far as, like, an adherence to, um, what, Catholicism or how you would view tradition?
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Andrew, if it's all right, I, I won't linger too long on, on this thing.
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Um, Maddie, I'm gonna have you read this one that's about to come through.
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Killa of Cereal says, for the panel, would you let a friend set you up on a blind date?
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Uh, well, just show of hands, is anybody here currently on a dating app?
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Uh, would you, starting with you, would you let a friend set you up on a blind date?
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We have, trying to see what was the other thing we had to do.
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There's some other thing we were going to react to, and we'll come back to that.
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Well, that was mostly for her since she claimed to be traditional, but, um, can I have
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Um, going back to you, remind me, what's your name again?
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So, Christine, you were dating a guy for 1.5 years.
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So, that was like, what, a month and a half ago?
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And so, since the breakup with the fraternity boy...
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Is there anything dating related you'd like to get off your chest?
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So, like, you hook up with a guy, and then they never talk to you again?
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I, like, have to get to know them first for a long time.
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And I, like, don't talk to a lot of guys because I'm just really not interested.
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It takes a long time for me to, like, actually be interested in someone.
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So, like, how long do you think, like, you would typically want to wait for a guy to hook up?
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It's not, like, a rule, but it's just, like, that's just how you...
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Like, are you going out on proper dates, or is it more just like, hey, let's meet up at
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Well, I've only been on one date since, and so it was, like...
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I mean, most of these college guys, it's like, hey, come over.
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What's one of the big grievances that you hear from your girlfriends who are dating?
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Or like, they'll just be really bad kissers or something.
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Like, when you say, this is happening to your girlfriends?
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That's kind of a compliment though, right, ladies?
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Like, you know, it's like 10 seconds, you know?
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That's how you, as a guy, that's how you have to frame that shit.
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If you come too quick, you gotta be like, ah, babe, it's cause you're so hot.
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Of course, I never, like, that's not a problem for me, but...
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Round two, you know, usually like, adds a minute or so, you know?
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But what, ladies, okay, so if a guy, okay, I'll open up the question to the panel.
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If a guy was consistently, like, he just, bam, too quick.
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Like, 90% of the time, is it just, is it a deal breaker starting with you?
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Like, honestly, as long as they finish me, like, honestly, not horrible.
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I've encountered somebody that we were making out and he came.
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Yeah, we were making out and he was like, and I thought we were going to go to, like,
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And he was like, I'm sorry about, like, if I came.
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You know that scene in American Pie where, yeah.
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What if a girl sucked your dick for three seconds and then just stopped?
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If a girl just was sucking your dick for three seconds.
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Put your dick in her mouth and then she was just like, okay, done.
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Would you be like, oh yeah, that's enough for me.
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Or like, what if you're in a relationship with someone?
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What if you're in a relationship with someone and she never wanted to suck your dick?
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I'd prefer if she's like, needs to suck the dick.
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Give me a scenario of how you would deliver that information to the guy.
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Show me how you would let him down for that reason.
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She wants to tell us about these premature ejaculators.
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So first I would probably bring it up to him respectfully.
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What is the like ecclesiastical orthodox Christian perspective?
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I'm trying to say this without being like disrespectful.
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This is all forms of Christian ethics, by the way.
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It doesn't matter if they're Catholic, Protestant, whatever.
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That would probably not be a good grounds for divorce.
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Though it probably would be something you would need to work on, I would guess.
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Madison, I'm gonna have you read this chat here.
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David Treziak says, question, met a girl this week, hung out twice.
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She's good at pool, pretty, going for a PhD program, but she's covered in tattoos and smokes.
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Why doesn't the butt come before the going for a PhD program?
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She's good at pool, pretty, but she's going for a PhD, and she's covered in tattoos and smokes.
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As in, like, she's gonna invest her time in that rather than the relationship.
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She's gonna have six figures of student loan debt?
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The fuck, am I covered in tattoos or something?
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Just from a dating perspective, but probably you having a penis, Andrew, is probably the
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Uh, so, what are the flat, are those red flags?
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Ladies, do you think it's a red flag that she's covered in tattoos and smokes tobacco
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Yeah, what if he means, like, angel dust, meth, PCP?
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She's covered in tattoos, and she, because David didn't clarify, she smokes meth.
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Sorry, I do think covered in tattoos is a red flag.
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Like, you wouldn't date a guy covered in tattoos?
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Nick, can you get it just to, should we get her an applesauce?
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Uh, we were talking about premature ejaculation.
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But as soon as a guy does it, y'all get all up in arms about it.
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Like, I can't come quick, but y'all can come quick.
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I'm just tired, sick and tired of these double standards.
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Speaking of double standards, like, you know how the, like, if a woman sleeps with a lot
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of men, she's viewed as like a slut or whatever.
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But if the guy does the same thing, like all of a sudden he's like gay.
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Like if women sleep with a bunch of men, like she's a slut.
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I get to be the slut, but I have to be gay if I sleep with a bunch of men.
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So for, but you guys, I think we're going around the table.
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Um, I wouldn't tell him there at the moment because I wouldn't want to make him feel bad.
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But I do date to, to marry or to have like a long relationship.
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And I think that like being sexually satisfied in relationship is super important, especially
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because I am somebody who is monogamous and I expect my partner to be loyal to me.
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So I do think that sex is one of the most important parts of having a faithful relationship
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is making sure that both partners are very sexually satisfied.
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So if that person doesn't meet my, my, my needs, then I just, I can't continue a relationship
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with them because I want to be faithful to my partner for, for the rest of my life.
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I would probably just, Kelly would be like, really?
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Like, I mean, am I like, is it the first time that I'm having sex with him?
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And then just, uh, let's just say it's the first three times.
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If it, that happens the second time that happens, I, I, I would be iffy.
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And then, I don't know, after that second time, I just be like, meh.
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Would this scenario, like, let's say you knew, like, let's say you knew his ex-girlfriend.
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And you knew that he never had an issue lasting or like in terms of coming too quick with all his other girls.
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Would it almost be flattering if like with you, he came really quick?
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You just admitted that it's never really a compliment.
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He said that guys could use that as like an excuse.
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About a 30 minute minimum refractory period for most men.
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I think that like, it depends like what he does after.
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Like if he just like comes and just lays there.
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Because at least my philosophy, she has to do what I do.
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When she can answer, I just have to know which congressman Daisy is planning to sleep with to keep her in the country.
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I was going to say like, what if the guy, because at least for me, I want to make the girl come before we even have sex.
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So like, what if he already makes you come, but like when it comes down to sex, it's just like.
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That adds a little more to the, you know, it's completely different than him just fucking you for three seconds and then that's it.
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I feel like by virtue of me, like trying to argue this, people are going to think.
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That I'm giving off here that I'm, because I'm defending this.
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I think it's men shouldn't be, women shouldn't be judged for these things.
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And I don't think men should be judged if they're busting nuts really quickly.
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That women are, that women are coming really quickly.
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Oh wait, I don't know if that, is this too, is this like asking for too much info?
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With my partner, but it's because he knows what I like.
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So we have a little bit more sexual chemistry with someone then.
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Uh, do you have any plans to date any congressman Daisy from grid one?
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I do have to ask her one question because I was about to ask it.
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Um, we have, uh, we've got four Asian women here at the table.
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I wanted to ask, uh, when it comes to like racial preferences, what do you guys, would
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The first one and I got roasted so hard for it.
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You would not date, would not date an Asian guy.
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Um, I just haven't met somebody, an Asian guy that I've had that kind of connection
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But like, is it just like a whole on, just wouldn't even consider it?
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Like gone on dates, but that was like a while ago, but I've only had like two like real
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And then the other guys were just like, um, you know, a couple of Asian guys.
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It's a lot of Vietnamese people and I'm, I'm Vietnamese too.
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And, um, but in my area, there's not a lot of Asians like at all.
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Is there like a famous Asian guy you can be like, I would date him?
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I mean, I don't, it's not like some of them I find like, I can say like, oh yeah, like
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he's attractive and he's not like, he's not ugly.
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And so you would date, uh, would date an Asian guy?
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I, okay, I didn't say this last time, but I, like, I'm not opposed to it.
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The first two guys that I ever, like, really liked, like, in my life were Asian, so.
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But didn't you say you wouldn't date an Asian guy?
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I, I just, all I said was like, I, I like white guys.
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No, I was just wondering, just a quick question for Daisy.
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Oh, can we unmute her just for the purpose of me asking this one question?
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We let, Andrew, can we, can we put it on pause for like five, six minutes?
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While we're doing that, we do have Nickelodeon.
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A perfect 10 body for 10 years or be a single mother but get covered six figures a year
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So a perfect 10 body for 10 years or be a single mother but you get covered six figures a year
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I would say the mother because I would always want to be a mother.
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So you have a perfect 10 body for 10 years or you?
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For the panel, what ethnicity have you dated mostly?
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If you've never dated a certain race, what are your reasons for not?
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I haven't really dated a specific or certain race.
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Race is not what I think about when I'm dating someone.
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It's just whoever I'm attracted to and have a connection with.
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Now for you, is it like, and for Kelly too, only black guys or like you would date other
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Um, again, like I've never found, I've never met somebody who I found like that physical,
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not just physical, but just emotional connection with.
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I was gonna ask if, um, you like, prefer, if you were dating an Asian guy, if you would
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prefer to date a Vietnamese guy, or if you're a different Asian guy.
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And, uh, wait, on that really quick, I've, I've seen these like TikToks and shit.
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When it comes to like the different ethnicities of Asian people, it's like, like what's the
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So, I don't know if you guys want to weigh in, like, what do you guys feel is like the
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I don't feel like I've had, I've had a big enough dating pool to tell which ethnicity
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To be honest, I don't think Asians are really toxic.
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I would, like, honestly, like, a lot of Asian men aren't toxic, like, at all.
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It was a question for Daisy, if you don't mind.
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I was just wondering, do you think that Hong Kong should be free?
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I already said I'm not answering any question that's related.
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Do you think that what happened in Tiananmen Square was good or bad?
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Yeah, but in your opinion, in your personal opinion, should Hong Kong be free?
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Sorry, but you think I'm stupid, but I'm sorry.
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You know this is some type of question we're not supposed to talk about.
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I mean, maybe if the CCP had control of you or something you couldn't answer, but...
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You don't know if Hong Kong should be free of Chinese influence?
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I was just wondering what you thought about Hong Kong and Taiwan, and if you thought Tiananmen
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Square, did you think that that was okay, or...?
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He asked her a political question, and she declined.
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Just ask what she thought of Hong Kong and Taiwan, and that's all.
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Well, I mean, I understand, because there could be some kind of political ramifications
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if you were to take a position on that in your home country, right?
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There could be ramifications against you and your home nation if you were to answer those
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What does this have to do with related to my situation with Walter?
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Well, I think that it has a lot to do with dating.
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If you're talking about women who are coming in on visas, student visas to date, and they
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get nominated by United States citizens, that has a lot to do with dating.
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If you ask me this type of question, I don't want to answer you.
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Oh, you don't know what kind of visa you're on here on?
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You're just making allegations that doesn't make any sense.
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He's just being crazy right here, trying to get me, like, treat me right here, because
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Like, you're just trying to accuse me because I'm not American, so...
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Andrew, would it be treason of me if I were to date a woman who was part of the CCP?
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But not only that, I would say that it ties directly into dating.
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To ask about people who are here on visas dating American citizens and getting impregnated
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by them, I don't understand how that wouldn't be pertinent to dating.
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Oh, by the way, my first boyfriend ever was American.
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Why do I have to need a visa to date American men?
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And as everybody knows, I've traveled everywhere.
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I have all this access to all the American guys.
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I don't have to come here to date an American guy.
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You can date American guys in your own country, but you also are dating American guys here in
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So then it's pertinent to dating talk for this country if you're coming to this country
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I'm just asking you about some general political beliefs that you have from your home nation.
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I just want to know what you think about Taiwan.
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Did you have, like, questions for the other panelists?
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I just wanted to see if I'd get an answer to the question.
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I smoked two of her cigarettes as an ex-smoker.
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But my question was, what is the main red flag to look out for in women?
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Thank you, Brian, for giving us a platform to speak.
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Oh, she's gonna be streaming on twitch.tv slash whatever.
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I, the only time I ever drink is if someone does a champagne pop on the show.
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What if I brought you a tequila that tastes good?
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There's no such thing as alcohol that tastes good.
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I've maybe been like, I got sick one time from drinking and then after that I was like,
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Really quick, while I'm opening up this champagne bottle, I'll just throw this out
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Oh wait, I wasn't supposed to take the fucking cage off.
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I know you can, but you're not supposed to take the cage off.
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Or does he just have a lot of passion for this one?
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I'm pouring out some liquor for my dead homies.
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I'll get back to actually hosting this if you can pour.
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I think we're going to do a cheers to the Wuhan lab.
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It's mostly soda water with a little bit of vodka.
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I'll have the white thing on a straight shot, though.
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Andrew, was there anything you wanted to talk on?
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During this segment, I'd like to open it up to the panel.
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Is there anything dating related that any of you would like to get off your chest?
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I was just going to ask you, like, do you want to get married like one day or you just
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I do want a family, but marriage doesn't matter to me.
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Like, honestly, are you going to get a Buddhist marriage?
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But I believe in Buddhism because I believe in people should be kind to people.
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But don't Buddhists have marriage ceremonies and that type of thing?
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Well, then how do people get married in China if they're Buddhist?
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Yeah, but we don't have a, like, religious, like, marriage religious thing.
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Like, we don't have to, like, do, like, a church marriage if you're a Christian.
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I'm pretty sure Buddhists have marriage rites that they do when they get married.
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I think it depends on the culture, like, which, like, country you're in.
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Because I know, like, Vietnamese, they don't have, like, a specific, like, way of getting
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Well, I'm pretty confident that Vietnamese also engage in religious marriage ceremonies.
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I'm basically 100% confident that Vietnamese engage in religious ceremonies for marriage.
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Like, that's, there's, I have no doubt that that's true, in fact.
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They do indeed engage in religious ceremonies for marriage, right?
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For the panel, if your partner caught fire and got third degree burns on 99% of their
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body, horribly disfigured from face to toes, would you stay in a relationship with them?
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Would you stay with you and go around the table?
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So if your partner got, like, was in, like, a fire and got, like, burned really badly, would
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I really don't know because I've never been in that situation.
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I'd, I'd probably be with him, like, in the beginning, but I don't think I can do that
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It's like a fat man killing a wallamelan eating contest on 250 milligrams edible munch munch chomp chomp
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Have you, like, have you, um, like, after all this shit went down?
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Like, have your DMs just been, like, full of dudes, like, trying to get at it?
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They say they hate me, but they DM me, you know?
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It's literally the ones, like, hating on her on your son.
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Yo, for real though, like, what's the chance, cause I'm a peace broker, right?
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Is there a chance for this, like, maybe not, obviously you guys aren't getting back together,
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Can you just like, do you think there's an opportunity for you guys to just be like,
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I'm just saying, you know, maybe a sit down, like a mafia sit down.
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I want to see you doing bigger and better things, Daisy.
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What do you mean by doing bigger and better things?
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Daisy and her friend's new names are baby killer and blond bleep, fresh skeeted king.
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He's a germaphobe and doesn't want me to touch his cup.
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And then we had this one that I guess I missed.
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For the panel, if your partner caught fire and got third degree burns on 99% of their body,
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horribly disfigured from face to toes, would you stay in a relationship with them?
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No, I kind of directed them to answer, but she answered.
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So is this like, they look like the guy from Deadpool?
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Would you date a soldier, a veteran who has put people in the forever box in an active war zone,
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and now who may suffer from issues like PTSD and TBI?
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Would you date a soldier who has like PTSD or TBI?
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But he left Rachel after knocking her up, married a black woman, got back with Rachel,
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He married Rachel when she had five kids by three men.
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The police finally just set in up here in E. Washington.
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What if you found out the perfect guy you just started dating loves Teflon Don-
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What if you found out the perfect guy you just started dating loves Teflon-
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This is in response to the 99% burns on the body.
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He doesn't believe he thinks you guys would break up with the guy.
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Wait, so going back to kill if cereal, would you date a soldier, veteran, who's put people
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in the- who's deleted people, but who now suffers from PTSD and a traumatic brain injury,
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Um, if I was married to them prior to them developing PTSD-
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I got PTSD doing this podcast sometimes, you know what I mean?
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Can we go back to the, I was married to a black woman thing?
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I'm sure, I'm certain that somebody has some evidence of this, right?
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They're not just completely full of shit and making shit up.
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I've heard a lot of great rumors about myself, but that one by far must be the funniest one
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I was going to ask, is it possible that Rachel has like vitiligo, like the Michael Jackson
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But I'm sure somebody is going to post a picture somewhere of my black ex-wife who exists
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inside only your mind because you're a fucking lunatic on the internet.
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Well, I mean, it feels fine for me because the truth is on my side.
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And then try to get revenge on the person and blame it on him because I'm not a fucking
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When you say nervous, do you mean confident because I didn't smite my own child in the
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I don't remember Walter smiting a child in the womb.
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Oh, what if you found out the perfect guy you just started dating loves Donald Trump?
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So do you consider yourself more liberal politically?
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I think that I would want to see his point of view first.
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I think that that would have to be a conversation like why he loves Donald Trump.
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Well, his point of view is Donald Trump is like the was the president of the United States
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He's the nominee for the Republican ticket for president.
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If your boyfriend came to you and had a Donald Trump tattoo.
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Baby Killa and Blonde Blank who fresh skeeted in dot dot dot.
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I mean, Daisy, you're like a bodybuilder, right?
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My current boyfriend is my perfect boyfriend and he loves Donald Trump.
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It looked like you were doing something weird, Andrew.
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Well, I was singing a song about my black ex-wife that I didn't know that I had, but
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It goes like, my black ex-wife, my black ex-wife.
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Well, I don't really like to date women who are like super overt politically.
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Cause I feel like, it doesn't matter if she's like conservative or liberal.
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If you're super invested in politics, you're kind of like, it doesn't matter what, you're
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So, if she was like, it's okay if she has her opinions, that's, I guess that's fine.
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But if you, if she's like super like into whatever, it doesn't matter if she's like super
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It's like kind of annoying if they're like really, cause these people are constantly annoyed
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To the girl my fellow Andrew has been destroying tonight, would you have been able to sue in
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Could you have sued Walter in China for the same thing?
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Have you been keeping a, have you been keeping track?
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Maybe just, can you do like, just blink and do Morse code.
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I want you to give your answer by blinking using Morse code.
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So like, do you know how to do, do you know Morse code?
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We were talking, what was the thing with the Donald Trump thing?
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Would you date a perfect person, boyfriend, girlfriend?
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Like, I don't really like to date people who are overly, you know, political and like that.
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It's, I think it's sometimes hard being with people who are super overly political.
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They just take a lot of things really, really personal.
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This is the exact reason my fucking business is taxed to insanity.
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Fuel is expensive and groceries are astronomical.
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Baby Killa is a 304 times two and blonde blank who fresh skied, skied in are both hordes.
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Get if a girl asks for flowers but three months into dating, is it okay to ask for a fancy
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If a girl asks for flowers but three months into dating, is it okay to ask for a fancy
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I think he's saying like, okay, like, it's okay to ask for flowers, but is it okay to ask
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for a 6k bag or whatever 3k bag after six months?
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I think Daisy would never be able to date because like, I-
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No, I'm just saying like, I'll get you like Chick-fil-A.
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That's the whole point why I told you to play the video.
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No, but you did eventually buy the real one, right?
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Jeremy, I am not spending $500 on a spy, but shut this CCP 304 up again.
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So, if I didn't mute you, you would have given me the bracelet?
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There's a law in the United States when you give somebody to some-
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There's a law in the United States when you give somebody to some-
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Did you hear Kevin Hart weighs 140 pounds and if the rock blows in Kev's butthole, he weighed
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Yeah, but I mean, speaking of Kevin Hart, I heard that he married my black ex-wife.
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Why do I deny something which is patently false?
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You would think that they would make such crazy accusations if they didn't know if they
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Like, I have to, like, listen to your bullshit.
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Are you saying, Brian, you really brought on Daisy just to dogpile her when Myron hates
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Daisy, sue those losers and take them for all they have.
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But that's how it works in a non-communist nation.
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If you make accusations, you have to prove the accusations.
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Well, you were the one who just stated yes, so I'm just curious.
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Oh, you didn't say yes, so you're just full of shit?
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When I say that you smited your child in the womb, am I lying, Daisy?
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Let me ask, what's wrong with marrying a black woman?
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When I say that you smited your child in the womb, am I lying?
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Now, Daisy, did your child magically evaporate?
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Or did you do something to exterminate its life, Daisy?
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If it's not murder, then you have nothing to complain about with Walter.
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I didn't say anything about it being wrong to marry a black woman.
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You don't believe, though, that this is murder, so why would you hold Walter accountable
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So some dude from another show blasted your ovaries and you decided to kill the baby?
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And if it's not murder, Daisy, then you can't call Walter a murderer.
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Wait, we have talked about it a little too much.
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Yeah, but I want to bring it back because I just want to.
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Daisy, what did, did, did Walter convince you to murder anybody or not?
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Daisy, did Walter make you murder somebody or did he not do that?
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So anyway, if you don't mind answering my question, did Walter make you murder somebody or not?
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Myron made you murder, but it's not murder though, Daisy.
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Well, that's the main reason why I had to take a pill because I was in most-
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Yeah, but it's not a problem because it's not murder, right, Daisy?
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Because I was seeing a doctor and I was seeing a therapist because I'm emotionally damaged.
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From the allegations, from the defense that they're putting me in the situation.
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So I was sick in my head because of what happened to me and nobody's-
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I was sick in my head because what Myron and Walter put me in through.
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You explained in here because people haven't been through this situation as I did.
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And if you don't know, you go ahead and Google it.
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So now that we've established it's not murder, what did they put you through exactly?
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You cannot blame someone else for actions that put you in the position to take accountability.
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I just want to address a couple things here real quick.
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This is the most expensive thing that's been on my wrist.
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I'm not doing this in furtherance of a collaboration.
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I certainly appreciate Daisy for coming on, for being willing to have this conversation.
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And regardless of who that's done to, I'm not in favor of leaking private information.
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Well, he should, because Walter is clearly right.
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A person who smited your child in the womb and wanted to deflect-
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You want to deflect responsibility for what you did to him-
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And you explained that it was a massive revenge plot against this guy, as did the person who's next to you.
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I don't know how you wiggle your way out of that now.
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So, if somebody punched you in the face, what do you do?
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Yeah, that's right, because you want to get revenge, because it made you feel bad, right?
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If somebody punched you in the face, just like somebody said you marry a black wife, what was your response?
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I'm not responsible just to be like, nope, that didn't happen.
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I was just wondering, just from his perspective, what would he feel like was the best thing that she could have done in that situation?
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I mean, let us assume for a second that we're going to take two different worldviews, because that's what we're doing.
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My worldview, which is Christian ethics, and her worldview, which is I don't fucking know what.
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So if this is so, if this is true, then I would always default towards life.
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However, our CCP loving friend over here smited this child in the womb and has done everything in her power to place the blame on him.
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Or has she not done everything to place the blame on him for her action as the ultimate arbiter?
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Brian, you aren't a fan of leaking, but clearly Daisy is.
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Stop shifting the blame to everyone but yourself.
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I don't even think that these women should be in your studio.
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With these other fine women here, Brian, after what they did, it's almost unconscionable.
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Also, there's a joke about the roast of Tom Brady.
05:22:07.600
I think the funniest joke from that was, it was from Tony Hinchcliffe, and he said something along the lines of,
05:22:14.600
Tom Brady, why do you look like a gay Tom Brady?
05:22:22.600
And then we have Yvonne, Yvonne, Yvonne, Yvonne, Yvonne, Yvonne, Yvonne.
05:22:35.600
Had you decided to have Fresh's baby, Fresh may have been able to file a
05:22:38.600
file a federal lawsuit against you for false advertisement 15 usc section one one two five
05:22:46.680
due to the drastic cosmetic changes you had from your original phenotype do we have the old photos
05:22:53.960
nick the og photos anyways it's fine whatever that's from you've you've
05:23:04.600
she looked good yeah that was like what like nine years ago like 10 like wait 2013 so damn he's
05:23:15.160
he's going on he's going on uh thank you it's been a while i haven't seen you in the chat
05:23:23.080
daisy send this message to your ccp overlords the inquisition and mobile infantry stands ready to
05:23:29.640
assist defending the free nation of taiwan invade at your peril would you like to know more
05:23:40.200
that no why do they keep saying like political stuff because they try to trick me they're being
05:23:46.040
right yeah like we're in america anyway let's talk about yeah guys let's talk about um what's everybody's
05:23:58.600
what should i start we already know brian what's my what do you mean you already know
05:24:06.280
what's my type kelly if you know me so well what's i feel like you definitely like like
05:24:11.960
asian girls and i feel like you like white girls too yeah that's like your top two for sure top two
05:24:17.080
yeah yeah it's probably equal between like white girls and asian girls yeah you know it's what what
05:24:23.400
you doubt that maddie it's probably i feel like i know your type now what's my
05:24:28.120
what do you want to say it for me wait maddie can you read this why does daisy keep changing
05:24:33.720
clothes you choose to spread your legs you knew the potential you had a protected sex does one
05:24:38.040
girl's lower jaw move except for she didn't even change clothes
05:24:50.840
good times yeah so like how's the like date and teach him a lesson
05:24:55.000
since right so daisy how's the day uh houdini 41 donated 69 dollars his daddy grid
05:25:03.240
oh he's been here he's our champion smite this 304 my guy oh my god
05:25:08.440
andrew would you rather sleep with the oldest woman or a trans woman which one andrew all this
05:25:14.120
woman same right sign me up the oldest one who exists
05:25:19.320
okay good times uh what's my type madison go ahead say it for me um if it doesn't if her height
05:25:28.360
doesn't start with the four you don't want it right preferably yeah you do like small short short
05:25:35.320
women you like them to not wear makeup minimal makeup minimal makeup doesn't have to be absolutely
05:25:43.240
zero preferably if it's zero if she shows them on the first date with a full face of makeup on it's a no
05:25:48.200
go no it's not no go not i'd just be like this doesn't have a promiscuous pass uh you know it's a no
05:25:56.120
no it wouldn't be it wouldn't be a deal breaker what if she looked different when she took her makeup
05:26:01.480
off i'd still hit no plastic surgery but like surgery doesn't drink doesn't smoke doesn't have any
05:26:10.600
mental illnesses what if she smokes weed um what if she smokes weed a deal breaker uh i'd have a
05:26:18.040
preference for her not smoking weed it's not necessarily a deal breaker but if she's smoking
05:26:23.480
it a lot then like every day i actually agree with you it's uh yeah i don't know it can make you really
05:26:31.400
like lazy and like what about functional i don't i don't smoke at all though so i just feel like there
05:26:36.280
would be such a mismatch of such a mismatch there what if she was like crazy though and smoking made
05:26:42.760
her like a really chill you like chill i like chill but if she's like what if i encounter of course
05:26:52.280
eventually if you're dating somebody you're you're gonna encounter them sober so did you ever go on a
05:26:57.480
deal with emily who she was um bro what the shut up hey kelly what the oh like uh no no no we didn't
05:27:09.160
go with it no no she was i'm kidding okay i think she was like she's a really good prospect for you
05:27:15.320
what the okay are we talking about the same emily bro why are you bro what the
05:27:19.960
you're outing him right now when was she was on like seven months ago or some that was a long time
05:27:26.760
like back in like september no that was like seven eight months ago or something that was when i was
05:27:33.880
on i was on yeah back in like september or something yeah no we didn't i oh because we were like joking
05:27:38.920
about it on the show oh no we never went never went on no date no because i think you like no because
05:27:44.760
you gave her the ring that's why and then oh the ring i proposed to her yeah where's that
05:27:49.000
should emily who should should i propose to somebody tonight yes uh okay
05:28:05.480
the light katherine will you cat christine christine will you marry me
05:28:26.520
someone whispered that shit somebody whispered that shit
05:28:31.080
all right what's up um wait what were we talking about
05:28:36.120
oh my basically i covered everything right oh like the main things she has to be willing to bow
05:28:42.440
bow she has to bow smote smote uh maddie can you read that i can't handle this bleep it is too
05:28:51.480
muda it not muda you're an effing murder daisy yeah lay down and got your icky
05:29:01.960
baby or it's too dbl oh y'all be nice guys be nice be nice a little bit eh come on
05:29:08.600
oh yeah we gotta do the bumble thing okay we'll do the bumble thing hold on guys we're gonna then
05:29:15.560
we're gonna do a couple other things we are gonna try to wrap relatively soon 20 20 minutes or so
05:29:21.960
then we'll yeah we'll do a couple things uh i think we should do the age change the age range though so
05:29:27.480
daisy my home girl we're we're friends right we're cool
05:29:32.600
oh damn are we cool are we cool are we good are we good
05:29:44.120
yes can i keep the bracelet no okay i'll think about it um what's your age range for guys you'd be
05:29:51.160
willing to date anonymous donated 69 dollars daisy the baby killer how is the business going has duke
05:29:59.640
koraba signed up with your lebanese pimp clout chasing low value woman bro how could you
05:30:10.680
do you want to answer the question no not worth it okay okay
05:30:23.080
it has to be younger than my father so like minimum age maximum age 30 to 40 maybe uh
05:30:37.080
older than me like so older than 28 and then younger than 53 53 wait so nick are you changing it in bumble
05:30:46.600
29 so wait you said 29 to what 29 to 53 53 yeah okay uh let me just get all the age ranges right now
05:30:57.800
while next doing that age range um 24 to 34 24 34 slide we'll just do it one by one
05:31:07.000
daisy i say again tell your ccp overlords the inquisition and the crucible infantry stands united with
05:31:13.960
hong kong and the nation of taiwan defending freedom from commies would you like to know more
05:31:19.960
yeah we do i mean definitely you believe that taiwan don't donate it again donated 69 dollars
05:31:27.240
something i like to ask on the first date and would like the panel to answer is taiwan a country
05:31:32.920
yeah is taiwan a country i'm asking you right now do you think yeah we're just asking the panel is taiwan
05:31:39.240
a country yeah az is taiwan a country you're asking the panel so ask other girls yeah speak into the
05:31:51.560
mic we can't hear you why do why do i have to answer well it's for the whole panel anonymous donated 69
05:31:58.760
question for the asian women what happened next when the american soldiers when the tree started
05:32:04.040
speaking vietnamese what you two are vietnamese right yeah catherine right chris christine chris
05:32:16.920
christin christine christine sorry is your last name win because you're winning me over right now okay
05:32:24.440
no no it's not no kelly no kelly win no oh my mom my mom's um maiden name is yeah yeah okay
05:32:40.120
lady gent gents if you're talking to a vietnamese girl it's a good line to try it's like 70 of their
05:32:46.120
last names are win yeah or she might very it's a very common vietnamese last name she might be really
05:32:51.640
offended were you offended was that offensive jeremy donated 69 dollars doesn't daisy have some mute
05:33:00.440
time let's just let her time to go to andrew if you've got 20 minutes left let's do what her country
05:33:07.320
does silence everyone veteran of 15 years here hey jeremy thank you for your service um i'm sure brian
05:33:18.040
also thank you uh thank you very much for your service well thank you for i didn't want jeremy's
05:33:23.160
thank you for your question i'm sorry i was just saying thank you jeremy for your patronage
05:33:29.240
i'm still tipsy from the the champagne pop so thank you i but i did wonder if we could get jeremy's
05:33:36.280
previous question answered and if you thought taiwan was a nation i just wanted a country do you think
05:33:43.320
taiwan is a country daisy i don't think she's gonna have a lot of people are wondering if you
05:33:49.880
think taiwan might be a country ask jeremy donate 10 000 i will answer
05:33:56.840
jeremy is she getting 10 10 and you get the bracelet
05:34:02.200
and you get the bracelet jeremy okay donate 10 000 and then you have money right donate
05:34:07.320
okay okay all right we'll do the bumble thing shut the fuck up loser oh oh he's broke ass
05:34:15.160
you think he donate 2 000 you can let me make me to speak wherever you wanted to speak
05:34:22.440
69 dollars taiwan has a monopoly in microchip production china reclaiming taiwan would surely
05:34:29.800
spark world war three how did this get so what do you think what do you think what do you think do you
05:34:34.840
think that do you think that if if china took over taiwan it might spark world war three
05:34:42.200
i don't pay attention to can we i feel like we got to keep it that doesn't got related
05:34:52.600
okay that was good um all right let's do the bumble thing okay so here's the segment uh put us on the
05:34:58.120
other side nick put us on the other side do you know video uh yeah so you get 20 swipes daisy
05:35:08.120
hold on okay maddie could you read that daisy the baby killer no value zero class and not a woman
05:35:12.840
that's how you do it brian that cankles losing fans like a bleep loses business in church cankles are
05:35:18.520
two feet lower than cankles seaward these gotta just be your haters huh damn that's rough
05:35:28.920
i feel bad for like reading this i'm sorry guys i don't think she i know
05:35:33.800
i'm not even tripping maybe this is weird but like a girl with nice calves
05:35:38.520
like if a girl has nice calves it's kind of like damn that's david tozak donated 69 dollars almost like
05:35:44.760
be respectful please debate is important christine respect to the whole panel think this is biggest
05:35:53.240
gross cast best tool taiwan is a nation state we've had hey david no bad david you know that book no
05:36:07.880
daisy double d daisy i'm sorry i blame it on the alcohol i'm sorry i'm i never drink i'm sorry
05:36:22.280
now can i have my bracelet back wait hold on let me just hold on i'm i like wearing it
05:36:27.880
once are you i promise i'll give it back to you okay
05:36:29.960
you get 20 swipes yes oh my god oh my god if i already a man donated 69 he's from florida boys
05:36:38.360
to the demon possessed women sacrificing unborn souls for the sake of revenge and comfort christ is
05:36:44.520
lord and you will answer for it so blind from demon possessio they even see the evil they are
05:36:59.640
okay um swipes nick okay daisy you have 20 swipes no no no no no no really no that's crazy no
05:37:18.120
no no no he was his girlfriend i know right his wife i think i don't have to look at wait just
05:37:28.360
keep going keep going no everybody's gonna do it no no oh he seems sweet no really david no wow damn
05:37:37.320
bro no daisy no he's good no james no look at that damn you're picking just not my type i'm sorry how
05:37:47.080
many is that nick are you counting no at what no no is that 20 that's zero daisy that's zero for 20
05:37:56.680
what's up that's why i'm i'm not we'll do another 10 more we'll see if we can get a yes go ahead
05:38:00.680
no no no that feels really nope nope nope damn y'all picky nope daisy you're picky nope nope
05:38:28.280
oh my god just not my type nope there's not enough forest nope never mind wait what about
05:38:36.280
no hold on really not even this guy what are you trying to say i don't like you're saying
05:38:42.680
just any black guy he's no i'm just it's not that he's it's not it's not even that he's black he's
05:38:47.000
just got good style he's he's got a nice watch um he looks with the fit he's he's definitely nice
05:38:52.600
watch watch why is he fit he's not even like he's cut he's fresh and fit look at this okay
05:39:00.360
you go date him i'm not gonna date him all right noel uh age range noel oh you said 24 to 34.
05:39:06.840
yeah uh nick you can bring it back 24 if you can adjust the ages 24 to 34. 24 to 34.
05:39:14.360
oh david to zechiak donated 69 dollars oh i did not mean to type gross oh i meant best i don't
05:39:23.000
think so i meant highest grossing donation cast i like them all i i we've had higher we've had higher
05:39:29.480
thank you david good to see you man uh once you have it nick go ahead and pop it up pop that
05:39:36.200
shit up all right pop it up pop it up noel no i don't know which one so no he's with a girl no
05:39:58.760
no no what you can barely see his okay all right all right uh no
05:40:17.000
i feel like a girlfriend took that pic he's 25. oh he looks so young um a girlfriend yeah
05:40:22.280
yeah let's say yeah no oh oh the dog no jesus yeah oh yeah okay no
05:40:37.080
i can't really see what is that um no it's jeremy filter no
05:40:42.440
he has an attractive face but the tats she likes tattoo no you don't like tattoo yes
05:40:53.800
yeah he's cute that's 20. so she said yes to this guy okay three damn y'all picky y'all picky uh what
05:41:01.320
about you like 22 and like maybe the highest like 30. 22 to 30. okay we'll do that
05:41:08.520
oh you guys are in relationships though like you two right
05:41:14.680
you're fine you're fine to do this don't check in
05:41:22.200
daisy the real question is do you swipe right on andrew or plead the fifth
05:41:27.640
daisy would you if you saw andrew would you would you smash like would you swipe yes on him
05:41:33.640
that's a dumb question i don't know i kind of feel like you like toxic eyes so like you might have a
05:41:38.040
thing like you totally i don't like you don't like toxic guys why do you think i like toxic
05:41:42.760
don't most girls like toxic guys no i'm not like wait guys guys guys stop stop stop
05:41:51.400
i don't like toxic guys and i like guys who's respectful would you prefer definitely not andrew
05:41:56.200
would you be more inclined to date a guy who's like yes queen you're so right about everything
05:42:01.720
doesn't have to you can never be wrong about anything ever no it doesn't have to be in between
05:42:06.840
okay you just have to act normal okay okay all right sorry andrew sorry
05:42:14.040
do you have it ready nick bumble go ahead pull it up oh whoa what the oh that's a gym pick okay
05:42:28.360
no what i'm just it's not my type oh latinos okay no no no no no no
05:42:53.240
damn y'all pick no no no how many left keep going
05:43:10.200
are you guys like the answer yeah yeah all right yes no
05:43:14.840
no damn y'all picky okay no it's not that they're not like attractive people go uh age
05:43:23.480
kelly it's gonna be a no for everyone because your boyfriend i think he's the hottest guy ever
05:43:28.520
yeah so you don't but just like as a hypothetical you don't have to do it if you don't want to
05:43:32.760
well i just already know like okay for sure it's not gonna all right let's gonna be zero out of 20.
05:43:55.320
boom boom no no no no no no no no what the fuck is that a pillow yeah it was yo no holy
05:44:22.360
oh shit no i can't see him no no no no no no no no so you got a do rag on what the fuck white boy
05:44:38.440
with a do rag no no no no let's do 10 more to see if we can get a yes one yes go ahead
05:44:48.360
they go they took all the cute ones no no no damn he had a good jaw no no what no like
05:45:02.280
that's just like i don't know that's like a weird photo that's a really weird photo
05:45:05.480
guys just suck at picking photos i feel like if it was a better photo maybe but like in person
05:45:10.280
like you could imagine like you could imagine how he looks okay no what sorry no no no no
05:45:24.760
no no no what the no two gay guys in a row three gay guys in a row hold on uh ccp government
05:45:36.760
here daisy you blank strumpet we're gonna put you in prison with the tape brothers
05:45:41.320
with the tape brothers they still in jail no no they're out you can bring it back we're gonna get
05:45:47.400
a yes oh damn no wait hold on grandma's underscore box underscore is underscore not underscore a underscore
05:45:59.560
cop donated 69 brian my caucasian new hamid was same last wk when bottle bopped andrew if brian
05:46:08.280
get black out and ends up missing after daisy gets deported will you take over she set her sights
05:46:14.440
on our boy and evil me if oh the evil ccp decides to retaliate against brian i promise that i will
05:46:23.960
personally take over the whatever brand yes you heard it heard it here for up first he's drunk
05:46:33.800
thank you uh let's keep going with the bumble thing let's keep going
05:46:41.480
really he plays baseball no but you can't see his yeah you see his side profile he's handsome
05:46:46.680
can you show more photos please w tf brian ring spun cotton how about some polyester for us rednecks
05:46:54.040
in the south oh the merch deport daisy are you talking about the merch shop double different.com uh
05:47:02.120
guys we're not gonna deport yeah there's no deportation yeah but there should be that's the
05:47:10.200
oh my god anyways uh bumble bring it back nick no nice side profile no really
05:47:21.480
he's like getting the ache from all of these yeah i know wait like sleeping huh what what was your
05:47:26.680
answer honestly yeah okay i see what's going on i get it okay they're winning they're just winning
05:47:39.000
hey you know what though okay never mind go ahead next wait just i want to see like three more i want
05:47:44.920
to see three more from from um gertrude over here gertrude ew next absolutely not
05:47:56.360
no no no no i just okay we'll stop there we'll stop there you
05:48:04.920
you you you're you're like one percent of the guys you think are attractive that's crazy son you're
05:48:10.840
picky yeah so are they you're picky i wouldn't even say they're just all like
05:48:17.080
well those are average those are like some of those dudes were like pretty good looking some of them
05:48:21.960
look like they don't shout but also this is like based purely off of looks i know they were but it's
05:48:28.040
also just like one picture and honestly like if i'm on a dating app i'm going to put the best picture
05:48:33.160
of myself and if these guys think these are the best pictures themselves like they're trying to be
05:48:36.360
modest no they're trying to be modest they just think oh this picture is hard so i'm going to use
05:48:40.600
that as my profile picture and then they're just going to put it as that and it's like dude what
05:48:44.440
what made you think this picture was good all right or like i've seen like you know like you can
05:48:49.000
take better photos of yourself at least all right last one what about you i would say 20 to 27 20 to 27
05:48:56.760
all right once nick has that all ready to go guys twitch.tv slash whatever and drop us a follow
05:49:12.360
no yeah wait wait okay wait one thing one thing one thing i don't want you guys to influence her
05:49:19.160
because you guys were kind of like influencing um um gertrude over here so if you just guys don't do
05:49:26.760
any indication don't do like just let her no indications just let like zip zip it okay go ahead uh no
05:49:37.880
no no sorry brian no no no no no no no no no no no
05:50:08.680
no let's give her five more no no no no bro i'm gonna be straight up you're way too
05:50:21.640
fucking picky that's crazy that's that's crazy there was no hispanic guys i know there was a
05:50:28.680
couple there was a no no they're all white guys there was a couple of hispanic no there's at least one
05:50:35.400
puerto rican there's a one guatemalan and there's at least one mexican trust me i know this here do
05:50:41.160
five more i bet you they're all gonna be white all right well fuck we'll do another 10 go ahead nick
05:50:45.560
you're like you can't even see him though literally no no oh i'm just you wait really
05:50:59.000
quick you won't even date you won't date a white guy i would so then what wait but you said it's
05:51:05.400
because most of the pictures you can't even see their face they're like switch to another
05:51:09.240
keep going keep going let's see would you go on a date with them just a date yes wait keep
05:51:14.760
it's okay just just go ahead yes or no oh i said no i would go on a date with him
05:51:28.920
no okay but why did it shift i don't know what it's because i asked her it like to just think
05:51:35.560
about it like if she would go on a date with them like you know just a date i think she said about
05:51:40.680
like would he be my boyfriend would you date this guy like girls will go on a date with a guy they're
05:51:47.800
not even necessarily like date them like be in a relationship yeah like like me yeah here let's
05:51:53.320
let's bring it back okay we'll do a few more i wouldn't date him you would i wouldn't wouldn't okay
05:52:08.120
i would go on a date with him which one hopefully the middle the one in the middle yeah yeah the one
05:52:18.440
no no i can't no no he's holding a fish what's wrong with that
05:52:30.840
do you eat fish for his dating profile though what's wrong with that oh i guess i mean he likes
05:52:34.120
fishing that's actually looks like a handsome guy that's pretty appropriate if you're stranded on a
05:52:38.040
lake he could oh man these girls are picky all right these girls are picky picky picky picky
05:52:50.680
yeah why don't you do one yeah just girls what's your age oh yeah what should do what what i do for
05:52:57.400
my age range yeah uh it's pretty it's pretty big it's pretty wide i would do i would do uh 40
05:53:25.000
what are you guys whispering about what are you whispering about wait we're not gonna do it though
05:53:30.680
oh we're not why not it's a it's a male profile so we or a girl profile so we wouldn't just turn it
05:53:37.160
to the girl one it's gonna show like no it's not it's gonna show all the girls he'll show all the
05:53:41.560
girls if you just show that you're sitting girls really okay this box is not a cop oh well then
05:53:46.280
i'll pick a different age range learned this from my mother first time i met her i was 25. you can't
05:53:53.320
trust anything that bleeds every month and don't die that we don't stand for a show on the next age
05:53:59.160
range up with dating and no 304s or would you consider doing a show on the next age range up with
05:54:07.240
dating you mean like age gap relationships is that the question
05:54:15.720
i disavow the the message i disavow i disavow okay i guess we can do it nick are you able to swap
05:54:21.480
the that's what i was thinking there's a lot they're like it's gonna be they do like it's
05:54:28.040
gonna show me like bi and lesbian no no no okay all right i'll show you like no no it wouldn't show
05:54:34.280
if they consider themselves straight i think like but there's like a lot of bi girls are just bro you're
05:54:38.600
gonna show me you're gonna show it's gonna show me a bunch of like woke bi chicks let's just try
05:54:43.800
let's just try what did you put it to what did you put the age to be friends too i can't see her but
05:54:49.080
yeah sure yes business connections yes yes oh wait i didn't mean to say what the
05:54:57.480
no i i don't think i meant to say yes to the other like uh
05:55:04.840
she's wearing sunglasses i can't tell i'm a i'm actually gonna i'm a pass i'm a pass on this one
05:55:11.080
uh she looks pretty yeah she looks really pretty i'll say yes
05:55:23.960
i know exactly what the sex will be good so yes
05:55:28.520
no no no she's really pretty come on man natural tits well okay we can't put you up but we have to let
05:55:38.360
him oh yeah right right yes yes yes yes no no no no no for both
05:56:02.040
oh she's really pretty uh the tattoo i'll just say she's attractive though so yes
05:56:27.960
she like asian what are we working with here like
05:56:35.800
like cambodian or something what are we talking indonesian or something i have no idea okay yes why
05:56:40.520
not um okay this is a tough one color in the hair color in the hair isn't that a red flag too
05:56:48.520
but she's four foot she does look short she looks on the short side the ooh but the the piercings
05:56:56.600
four three uh she has a dimple piercing maybe if she's secretly based
05:57:09.400
yes like a begrudging yes a begrudging yes uh yes
05:57:31.000
he's a pretty girl pretty girl although i'm gonna pass i'm passing septum piercing for the septum what the
05:57:39.800
actually i'm gonna i'm gonna go yeah i'm that's a yes for me
05:58:19.320
what does this mean is that um she doesn't shave that's a no go no that's a no if she shaved it it
05:58:56.680
what the fuck are you y'all are foot that's a face full of makeup i'm gonna go no on that
05:59:07.960
is she asian though she works in retail she could be she just looks like one of those
05:59:11.960
she could be like a white girl who's trying to be asian
05:59:24.760
can't really see the body probably probably like a little yeah i'm kind of chubby right now too so i'll
05:59:34.920
what's the over under this chick does like drugs and shit
06:00:10.680
not not quite as modest as i'd like but uh yes but do you notice how all these girls
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yes they're better than the boys no they're not
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they're not no that's a wait hard no and i'm gonna do three more
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what i'm on the fence you're not picky at all i like uh i like chubby asian women why not
06:00:35.640
she might be mexican though i don't know what the fuck oh my god
06:00:50.360
i'm gonna i'm actually gonna say no to this one
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okay i changed my mind and with that we'll uh okay all right uh we're gonna go uh
06:01:05.960
andrew do you have anything otherwise we're gonna get into the chaos section of the show and
06:01:10.680
then we're gonna wrap up no man go ahead okay boys we are now dropping the tts to twenty dollars
06:01:20.280
we're getting into the chaos section and then we're gonna wrap up the show so if you want get
06:01:24.680
your tts is in gonna be all china china china china china i gotta remind you uh we got need men
06:01:30.840
video reddit and touches doors not gonna wait what are the other two touches doors need men reddit
06:01:38.840
we're not going to do the door we're going to skip the reddit and then what's the other one
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need men video youtube the view one yeah uh we'll do that another show we'll do another show
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uh tts has been lowered ladies and gentlemen if any of you want to get in during the chaos
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section here um so how's the love life been daisy
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any prospects you mean like currently real trump donated twenty dollars i want to be ninja i want
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to chop chop chop chow down take chow down to china town i learned to chop real hard die fight
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with credit card i use my nunchucks even while feeding ducks hashtag bad friends podcas
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that's beautiful famous the goddess of divine law donated twenty dollars brian if you are a man at
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all and not a putsy play the goddamn video that daisy wanted you promised to all viewers you're gonna play
06:02:40.200
it multiple times let the panel vote and play it now he's not gonna play you guys can go watch my
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youtube video anonymous donated twenty dollars to answer the question when the trees are speaking
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vietnamese the axe started shooting next vietnam war reference what grammar's box is not a cock donated
06:03:04.760
twenty dollars seems teresa range between 18 to 30s panel i'll see get some older wiser guests to
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role model better passing down is easier than pounding into someone degeneracy is never slow
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and they get dumber and stupid we we have other people on the show we get stochastic decay donated
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twenty dollars fake boobs fake jaw fake lips fake cheeks fake eyes fake boobs seems like halter wasn't
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the only one selling a dream your response daisy what do you think about that daisy were you selling
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a dream donated twenty dollars thought of the night boys are taught how to treat girls but not what
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to expect from them girls are taught what to expect from boys but not how to treat them ps ladies the
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bears thank you treks trucking more donated twenty dollars ladies what is your favorite kind of apple
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fuji honey crisp i'm more of a fuji kind of guy honey i like the fuji is the only correct honey
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crisp honey crisp it's amazing okay brian is daddy donated twenty dollars this has been a great
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you're welcome i guess i should have a simp come on here
06:04:23.320
a simp ring king donated twenty dollars gustavo salute
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brian do you know there is a term in china for women who are not married by 25 years of age
06:04:42.440
don't you just hate it when your cat wakes you up like this
06:04:46.120
meow meow by the by the way guys for this twenty twenty dollar segment
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meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
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meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
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Brian is fat, fat, fatty, fat, fat, fat, fat, fattest.
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696,96,969,696,969,969,969,969,969,969,969,969.
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06:07:00.300
Daisy, Andrew is only hating on you because his wife was a single mom with multiple baby
06:07:05.420
daddies when he saved her like the simp that he is.
06:07:12.460
He's still mad that she didn't kill him like Daisy did.
06:07:24.300
I understand you just didn't want to have one, but you get upset about Andrew's fake black wife.
06:07:36.800
Andrew, why you married a non-virgin and divorced 304 and why you're raising other man's kids?
06:08:05.600
I'm going to try to get these all re-triggered.
06:08:17.600
You're an American citizen, so stop S in his D.
06:08:22.600
You lost your shit on Daisy when it was time to play the video because you knew you got destroyed.
06:08:33.380
Andrew, there's a middle ground between murder and no problem.
06:08:39.160
Abortion isn't good, but there's a difference between fully formed person and embryo or fetus.
06:09:07.040
Doesn't anyone realize this whole man versus bear thing is not new?
06:09:11.140
Remember in 1991, the Beauty and the Beast Disney movie?
06:09:25.800
Said yes to the girls with the same side profile.
06:09:41.780
Brian, you're working on losing weight like all the big women on Bumble do.
06:09:57.160
Apologize to the big head so the little head can give you more baby gravy.
06:10:14.880
I understand you just didn't want to have one, but you get upset about Andrew's fake black wife.
06:10:27.760
Andrew, why you married a non-virgin and divorced $304 and why you're raising other man's kids?
06:10:42.820
I thought the drama between Drake and Kendrick was bad, but between Daisy and Walter is nothing new other than being both fools for the internet congra.
06:10:57.800
Daisy looks like a James Bond side chick villain.
06:11:00.980
Only difference is that I wouldn't spend $20 on a movie ticket to see the villain try and trap James Bond with child support.
06:11:13.380
Still didn't kill them like Daisy did plus two.
06:11:28.600
Andrew, remember when asked to name three countries on F&F podcast, you said Australia is only a continent and not a country.
06:11:48.080
I cannot for the life of me figure out what 5 plus 10 is.
06:11:55.840
Please someone get a steroid freak to answer this question.
06:12:05.180
Guys who F-girls then pressure them to get abortions are worse than hoes.
06:12:09.820
Responsibility lies on the dude to have the final say with upholding standards.
06:12:20.480
Andrew, stop running from 304 lawyer, farer, not so erudite and destiny.
06:12:27.520
You know that they will all crush you in a debate as they have in the past.
06:12:32.460
The other two I think will, but I've heard it from them.
06:12:35.660
Andrew, why you have the nerve to think you have the competence to vote, when you don't
06:12:40.320
even know that Australia is not only a continent, but a country, too.
06:12:56.920
No credibility or intellectual authority on any topic.
06:13:28.980
Andrew was the best part of the stream tonight.
06:13:54.340
Yeah, but just always remember, too, that my haters are poor.
06:14:39.080
Notice, every other chick is so pretty, but even with total chads, they say nope immediately.
06:14:44.640
Modern Western chicks are total brainwashed bots.
06:14:56.620
Guys who have girls then pressure them for an abortion are the real problem.
06:15:11.340
Brian, can you suggest a new character for me to play in WoW Vanilla?
06:15:21.200
If you're going to go Alliance, you play female human Rogue.
06:15:27.980
Andrew, why are you on here giving other men advice?
06:15:30.200
You literally married a blank and a sinner and are raising other men's kids like a cuck.
06:15:34.460
Is her only positive that she didn't get an abortion?
06:15:45.120
Some mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, mommy milkers, wah, yoo woo woo.
06:16:03.280
These two halls on the right both let the same amoral playboy blow out their backs and empty his balls in them.
06:16:10.160
And have the nerve to come on to complain about what they knew he was.
06:16:20.660
Getting big time small PP energy from all these in sales spending their last $20 to bully Daisy.
06:16:40.640
How did you find out it was a girl so early in the pregnancy?
06:17:06.940
I would rather spend my money on the thought of you.
06:17:10.400
Instead of actually wasting any of my brother's time with you.
06:17:31.140
No competent lawyer would let her come on here.
06:17:52.840
Brian says he's working on it, but inflates every show.
06:17:56.900
When he starts deflating, we'll know he's doing it.
06:18:00.720
Maybe hit the Ozympike, or you'll look like fresh and maybe Daisy will want your babies.
06:18:13.600
Have girls name when World War II started and name who was the Axis.
06:18:29.480
Andrew, you turn your camera and pander to half the RP community to make a living.
06:18:34.500
You have no academic background or credibility on any topic.
06:18:38.480
Daisy actually performed better than you tonight.
06:18:47.540
Can't believe Rachel Wilson had kids with three different men.
06:19:02.960
Andrew, if you continue smoking two packages of cigarettes every day, I will get a cancer.
06:19:09.960
My slogan is get rich or die trying, and your slogan is get cancer or die trying.
06:19:18.320
Guarantee which one of us is going to get rich first.
06:19:41.760
If you say Taiwan is a country, I'll forgive you.
06:19:54.660
The Yankees just upset that China is going to be the world's superpower by 2050.
06:20:09.640
Daisy, if you have a soft heart, you need to have tough skin.
06:20:14.060
People dissing you because we have no chance with you.
06:20:17.300
These are the fleas that come with messing with guys like Walter.
06:21:12.280
I don't have to agree with Brian or Andrew or Brian.
06:21:28.480
Andrew talks a lot of Shiite for a kucky captain save her single moms.
06:21:46.000
As long as Daisy is silent, money well spent, go, Andrew.
06:22:02.340
So Australia has continental gov tea and not a country's?
06:22:08.620
We're going to strap him and get him butthole prego with baby dolls and start a nice family and do better should see Grammy's milkers.
06:22:15.540
Daisy's underscore womb underscore is underscore A underscore grave donated $20.
06:22:51.760
Australia is a prisoner colony, not a real country.
06:22:55.020
The best thing to come out of there was Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin and the latter didn't even last very long.
06:23:05.760
Andrew, by your own words on F&F Podcast, your grandma was promiscuous and that's why you hate female promiscuity and feminism so much.
06:23:15.260
Every feminism-hating man like you has a promiscuous family member.
06:23:31.240
Wait, you guys gotta stay at the table while the...
06:23:39.420
If I had the choice between a woman and a bear in the woods, I would choose the bear.
06:23:44.380
At least I could get to have sex with the bear.
06:23:56.900
Andrew, thank you for speaking the truth to the baby murderer.
06:24:00.220
That the seat is stand up with that awful spray tan.
06:24:09.180
Andrew's shivering in his sleep after getting confronted by Wes in person.
06:24:26.120
Andrew, if the sexual orientation is a choice, then why homosexuality exists in the animal
06:24:38.700
Bane gay is plan B of the nature for procreation.
06:24:46.920
To Daisy, it's nobody's business but you and them.
06:24:55.220
Um, Jeremy's about to come in, just warning you, Daisy.
06:25:17.060
PLS, bring Kelly back to battle the of models again, lol.
06:25:26.660
But like, only like the hose with the actual hose, though.
06:25:33.300
Does Brian sniff your chair after every stream is over?
06:25:48.360
I could be the love of your life, but you don't like tattoos.
06:26:02.500
Did Rochelle Wilson really have three kids with three different men?
06:26:20.620
You should have kicked the Latino after her first bad faith answer instead of you saying
06:26:25.120
that if the police doesn't do their job, nobody cares.
06:26:31.360
I should have absolutely kicked her much earlier on.
06:26:48.660
If Daisy's womb was a pilot, it would be named the Red Baron.
06:27:05.040
Daisy, you handled this well and with a degree of class.
06:27:34.600
15 years from now, they will swipe right on any guy with legs.
06:27:44.780
Andrew, Wes Watson is the definition of a douche.
06:27:54.320
I've got to be honest, I usually date white girls, but Kelly is giving me some jungle fear.
06:28:27.260
Now I'm at rats and human waste after you rejected me down the toilet.
06:28:52.080
I needed proof of the black baby, so I recorded a phone call instead of keeping the baby lol.
06:28:57.380
Make it make sense, and the pride she has for it is crazy.
06:29:09.660
Daisy, can you consult your fortune cookie and see when your next baby truck scam will occur?
06:29:52.940
Naryl, talk me, and my girl was cheering Kelly on that episode.
06:29:57.620
There are good women and men, but the few mess it up for the many.
06:30:07.780
Lamar mad about a low stock continent, speaking of which we could use a new penal colony to put modern-day witch doctors, aka abortionists, to work on ejecting murderers, essayers, and PDFs spawn.
06:30:24.300
By the way, Andrew, just letting you know, we're going to do a redirect to you after the show, okay?
06:30:36.200
Would you do show on child support queens trapping dudes?
06:30:39.800
My brother has six kids with four baby mams, and he helped plan one.
06:30:44.840
Believe or not, but I've verified myself three have admitted others IQ 70-ish, duh.
06:31:04.240
Or, uh, working on her split ends or whatever it was.
06:31:06.560
Uh, okay, I'm going to read these really quick while there's a pause.
06:31:14.700
Meant to save you the rats for being internet famous.
06:31:16.620
I'll say this, Daisy, you'll never get men higher than Walter.
06:31:18.640
That's the best you're going to get in the dating scene.
06:31:35.360
If the amount of D they've had when stacked on top of one another is taller than you, no go.
06:31:42.620
Guys, this is like the roast of Tom Brady, okay?
06:31:56.780
It's all through Streamlabs, but I'll pull them up just to be...
06:32:05.220
Who is the absolute epitome of Christians today.
06:32:08.720
Racist to the core and feels rightous in the name of his so-called religion.
06:32:19.480
It would be fitting if the CCP plant's baby was female.
06:32:23.800
This is how the PRC has destroyed their country through the one-child policy and so many more murderous policies.
06:32:38.400
So glad my mom decided to send me into a shop vac, said Daisy's child.
06:33:43.560
Raise your hand if you would date a chilling soldier.
06:33:58.880
Check me out on Insta to add Kamikaze Cam lollier or nail on 33 today.
06:34:17.840
He goes to your competitor right after they said terrible things about you
06:34:21.720
and comes on here to pretend like he's best friends with Fresh.2brook
06:34:32.300
Brian, would you date Maddie if she was single?
06:35:04.180
We'll pull up everything, but we're not going to...
06:35:08.260
Everything has to be through Streamlabs if you want it to be a TTS.
06:35:27.440
I have to say, man, that roast session is a great idea.
06:35:35.940
Gustavo, I noticed you have expressive eyebrows.
06:35:55.220
Definition of I only being named Daisy when those are the flowers used when death occurs.
06:36:00.740
Little would have been Daisy Child, R.I.P. Little Guy.
06:36:33.000
Blonde bimbo, how do you reconcile yourself after taking up for someone you know is a murderer?
06:36:52.540
I need to make sure I frame this section as the roast section.
06:36:58.940
Our blue daisy killed her baby and took it from this world.
06:37:10.360
It is the roast segment of the Whatever Podcast, okay?
06:37:13.320
They want to spend their money is how they want to spend it.
06:37:32.100
Brian, stand up and do a spin so we can see that dump truck.
06:37:43.100
I'll pop another champagne bottle, but I ain't doing that.
06:38:05.120
Guys, if you have an available Prime sub, you know, through Amazon Prime, you link it to your Twitch.
06:38:15.740
CCP Plant probably saw her baby was a girl and said, scrap it.
06:38:29.940
Real talk if Maddie gave Kelly her helmet, I'm not sure I could tell the two of you apart.
06:38:53.060
The same guy who said terrible things about Brian.
06:38:56.220
Brian doesn't even come in person to say these things.
06:39:09.580
Had to make the mood light a BC tonight was toxic.
06:39:25.860
I didn't ride the yachts and don't meet you by princes.
06:39:39.960
My daughter is the most beautiful Asian I have ever seen.
06:39:46.600
That doesn't mean you are not a beautiful person.
06:40:00.940
If you have watched the previous podcast, whatever I've been,
06:40:04.840
and also my YouTube video, you would know it's not true.
06:40:11.120
I'm so happy that Daisy trapped someone other than me.
06:40:19.840
Daisy realized the baby was white and grabbed a coat hanger.
06:40:40.860
Nick, if you can pull up the, pull up the chat.
06:41:02.260
My guy, Jeremy, you could be in Hawaii, Japan, Brazil.
06:41:06.620
With baddies, I'm a Navy vet, but damn dog, you using up them disability checks, huh?
06:41:20.460
The fact that Andrew can go from the podcast that trashes Brian to Brian's podcast shows the true character of Andrew.
06:41:28.480
This entire podcast has been in defense of the very people trying to bury Brian.
06:41:32.820
I'm not doing this in further, like, you know, I'm not doing this in furtherance of trying to, like, do a collaboration.
06:41:44.600
That ship, my understanding, that ship's pretty much sailed.
06:41:49.560
If this, you know, I just, hey, I see something kind of not so good, I want to address it.
06:42:07.060
Yeah, I like the whole premeditated recording, leaking it.
06:42:27.260
If Daisy wasn't traumatized before, she certainly is now loljk.
06:42:41.460
Gustavo, my man, I would slap you and turn you into the army, but that salute needs extreme work.
06:42:59.920
We're going to do a raid over there on Twitch for her.
06:43:04.480
There's probably going to be a few more TTSs that trickle in, but I do want to say a couple things here.
06:43:09.960
First off, still looking for a lawyer in Dubai who can go after these scammers.
06:43:33.220
Daisy, if you're not a CCP agent, can you tell us what 10 plus 5 is?
06:43:40.320
Are they like, are you not allowed to say what 10 plus 5 is?
06:43:51.220
I wish we could have seen Santa all the fun things we could have done.
06:44:10.700
Sorry I commented on your ass and started all this, but you got the dumpy?
06:44:23.760
Women blame the man for leaving, but don't take accountability for picking a bad partner.
06:44:30.980
Make him commit and marry you first and watch how quickly they leave.
06:44:55.640
Poor baby Daisy grabbed a coat hanger and went to work.
06:44:59.680
That baby could have made it as a one percenter, but now that it's gone to heaven, we will never
06:45:04.380
Netflix original should be Daisy the baby killer.
06:45:12.200
To top it all off, you never actually heard Daisy out to give her side of the story and
06:45:18.700
Absolutely controlled to be a one-sided argument.
06:45:32.860
Like, even if they don't know from this panel, they will know later.
06:45:38.080
So I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be tired.
06:45:56.560
Because I asked you 10 times to play the video.
06:46:06.480
After we get past all of this hatred and my own problems, thank you for this.
06:46:35.180
All of your baby deleting, cash grabbing scams will fail.
06:47:04.780
Kelly, you look like you cooked some fire-o-mine noodles.
06:47:09.360
Your child literally could have been the next Tiger Woods, but you said someone being mean
06:47:20.400
You guys are disgusting for trolling a woman who just lost her baby.
06:47:37.960
Mommy, this person is loaded with money to help me speak to you.
06:48:03.920
I did tell them before the show that they were going to get pushback.
06:48:11.060
The shit I took earlier had a higher IQ than fresh.
06:48:36.060
Once these are done, we're going to wrap the show.
06:48:44.520
This situation could have been avoided had Daisy used her bunghole instead.
06:49:20.060
I've also learned so much about women because of your show.
06:49:34.420
If only pushing up daisies meant something else.
06:49:42.900
I mean, as they were leaving, I was like, hey, you can...
06:49:48.900
My mommy left because not sticking around runs in the family.
06:50:11.640
Tried to get a viral moment tonight so he can go to fresh and say he tried.
06:50:24.140
The fact you didn't show her video makes this podcast trash AF.
06:50:28.040
Should give a fair and reasonably cited argument.
06:50:33.220
I mean, we showed all the stuff that she leaked, though.
06:50:42.440
I think the video that she was going to share...
06:50:45.960
Look, if any of you are interested, it's on her YouTube channel.
06:50:48.580
You're welcome to go find it on your own time, but...
06:50:54.620
And now she leaves like that sweet little soul leaving her womb.
06:51:04.380
Netflix did a roast segment that was way more intense.
06:51:08.980
I have always wondered if snakes killed their babies.
06:51:13.460
I mean, Daisy has given me the answer I was looking for.
06:51:41.160
I'm a little upset, but God gave me grace to forgive you.
06:51:47.360
The ride to heaven down the toilet wasn't nice.
06:52:29.100
She know which planned parenthood clinic in New York that she left the kid at.
06:52:36.460
Uh, Nick, so we're going to do, well, Grandma on the bridge.
06:52:48.520
Welcome to the whatever roast segment of the show.
06:52:52.220
That's what we should call it, the roast segment.
06:52:58.240
Okay, those of you, a couple things really quick before I wrap up the show here.
06:53:05.840
The truth is that Fresh paid $50 extra to put it in her starfish.
06:53:11.340
Daisy just didn't realize that you can't get pregnant that way.
06:53:15.060
This is why everyone knew you weren't pregnant.
06:53:18.240
Also, just to address the thing, like Andrew going on the other platform.
06:53:31.860
Brian, it was very unfair for you to not play the video and troll Daisy the whole show.
06:53:38.580
This is clearly an attempt to appease Fresh and Fit in a hope that they will not attack you again.
06:53:48.320
Like I said, I wasn't doing this in furtherance of trying to do collaboration with them.
06:53:53.960
I do think that the conduct was despicable, whether this was done to somebody who I have an issue with, who's neutral, who I even like.
06:54:03.040
I think this conduct is actually a prime example of – I'll get to it in a second.
06:54:11.840
Maddie, you better wash that seat before you sit there.
06:54:21.600
Would it be disloyal of you then to have on female guests who I don't like because you've had on many?
06:54:44.200
I just want Andrew and Brian to take my dollar.
06:54:53.380
Wait, Jeremy, have you been – I know we've had like a Jeremy message before.
06:54:58.760
Have you been in the chat before or this is your first show, Jeremy?
06:55:07.240
Look, I mean, the thing is the video she sent me, it's not clear if that video is material to the actual conversation we were having.
06:55:15.640
I mean, you could – we could pull up, I'm sure, tons of videos of – that paint Walter in a bad light.
06:55:22.280
I don't think it's really material to the actual argument that was going on when it came to – we showed all the DMs she leaked.
06:55:33.300
So, I'm not – I would – for example, then would it be fair for me to show like any other kind of things that would discredit even Daisy?
06:55:41.000
I don't think any of that stuff is material to the actual conversation at hand.
06:55:45.300
If you guys are really interested, you're welcome to check out her YouTube channel and you can find it there.
06:55:54.060
Plus, the point where that came up, we had been on it for like two or three hours or something.
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I was really wanting to try to involve the rest of the panel who are now about to pass out and die.
06:56:06.100
Tony donated $20, except they straight-up disrespected Brian and his show by name.
06:56:12.460
Has any of the girls disrespected you by name prior to the show, Andrew?
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And I don't say shit because it's not my fucking business.
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I'm a guest here like everybody else and you're a fucking idiot and just got proven wrong by your own logic.
06:56:32.020
First of all, you guys, she said she took a pill.
06:56:55.840
Brian, you are go too far, sir, and now I are going to airport.
06:57:15.340
What will it take to beat your best grossing net?
06:57:25.200
What is the number to make your highest number?
06:57:28.700
I actually don't know what the most, I don't know what the highest show is.
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Can you just have a number of money, and then everything that you leave is what will get you in the middle of your life.
06:57:58.840
Sir Andrew, you're not about to be able to play.
06:58:25.240
Different level of convo when you can challenge.
06:58:40.060
Matt, Maddie's mic is muted because that's where CCB was.
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I've been talking this whole time and no one can hear me.
06:58:56.660
Wait, could the guys even hear her say her thing?
06:59:23.840
You are getting way more in return than Brian is by coming onto his platform, not equal at all.
06:59:30.580
F&F attacked Brian personally and you come on here simping for fresh.
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The difference is that they have girls have simps as an audience.
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F&F's audience is the same demo, not the same Andrew.
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Trash talk from the same demo is much more damaging than the simps.
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All you did was switch the goalpost when you realized your original argument was fucking stupid.
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Once you got proven wrong, you switched to the next one.
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This argument is also equally as stupid because you're saying that if it was not mutually beneficial,
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Anyways, so as soon as Kelly's back, I'll wrap up.
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But I just want to say GG, well played to the panel.
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Those of you watching on YouTube, last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
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We are going to do a Twitch raid if you can hang tight for a second.
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And then we will be sending you guys over to Andrew's channel as soon as we end the stream.
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I am Heather Bobo and I'm looking for a new Brack man to trap.
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Brian, you need to pay Andrew to be a permanent guest host on the show.
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By the way, tell Daisy I threw pots and pans down the stairs to find out what her aborted baby's name would have been.
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Yes, I still watch them, but not as much as you because of that.
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Ladies, there's no reason to kill an innocent human being.
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Guys, if you get a woman pregnant, step in the F and F.
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The self-hating Asian 304s love to get gassed up by yellow fever simps.
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No, I'm saying Brian shouldn't bring you on since you are a grifter.
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Not that hard to understand, big brain, Andrew.
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I will sleep good tonight knowing Daisy will be crying herself to sleep and baby ABA will
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Watched every episode since the beginning of the show.
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Andrew, love your content and the way you handled Wes at the live event in Miami.
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Mr. Andrew, you're my adopted daddy on earth for giving me a voice.
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I died to two rich, famous adults who couldn't be responsible for me.
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I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but if I was in a relationship for two years trusting the person and she purposely stopped taking birth control to get pregnant, how does it make me bad to leave?
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No, I mean, I just put it up when you left the twitch.tv came up.
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Artificial intelligence, less the intelligence.
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Okay, let's just actually try to just get through that.
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So those of you watching on Twitch, thank you for tuning in on Twitch.
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CCP wants to take down the red pill spaces because men are starting to step up.
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All right, guys, those of you on Twitch, thank you for tuning in on Twitch.
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I'm going to do a raid here, sending a raid now.
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Showing some love to a small streamer on Twitch.
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She's got a better stream setup than we do, though.
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Andrew, how many cigarettes have you smoked this whole podcast?
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Next show, try and include all you panelists more.
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The girls still here look tired out and annoyed.
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Real Trump, Daisy's possibly aborted baby name.
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We will be doing a redirect to Andrew on YouTube after this ends.
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So if you want to stick around there, drop him a follow, subscribe, whatever.
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Can we get Madison's boyfriend on the next show and see her Bo to him?
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Uh, that's the only way I would ever bow on this live stream.
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I want to do a big thank you to everyone who tunes in, supports the show.
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Thank you to everyone who super chatted, sent in the Streamlabs message, TTS, whatever it may be.
07:08:03.880
How does Simpai Frankie feel to stick his penis in that loose hole that had seven other penises in?
07:08:19.200
Brian, you should have respected Andrew's booting of Daisy.
07:08:23.120
He's your Caucasian and you've respected him in the past.
07:08:36.840
If somebody's otherwise being respectful, even if they're, they did something pretty, uh, egregious, even if I disagree with them ideologically, uh, if they're conducting themselves respectfully, uh, I'm not going to kick them off.
07:08:53.600
Uh, she ended up just leaving anyways, so it is what it is, but, um, yeah, if I, just because I disagree with somebody or even if they've done something, um, which I think in this case is egregious, you know, leaking the DMs, premeditated recording the phone call with the intention to leak it, uh, terrible thing.
07:09:10.900
Don't co-sign it at all, but I'm not going to invite, you know, I'm not going to have her come on the show and then kick her off.
07:09:20.200
Um, we have, we make it a habit to reach back out to people who've been on the show before.
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So it wasn't like we didn't reach out to Daisy.
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Um, I'd actually like to call her out for what I view as a despicable behavior.
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I mean, um, uh, first off, Andrew's a wonderful guest.
07:10:03.920
Uh, he's, uh, our most frequent recurring guest.
07:10:07.960
As far as, uh, Chase, um, you'll have to ask him.
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Uh, Chase has had a, you know, open invitation to come back on the show.
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I think he's just kind of doesn't really enjoy, at least from what I've heard from him, I don't
07:10:20.140
think he really enjoys arguing with, uh, although this was not an OF girl panel, he doesn't like
07:10:25.280
arguing with OF girls and, uh, Kelly will do it for him, but, um, yeah, you know, some
07:10:46.780
Okay, anyways, um, trying to think if we're, are we forgetting anything?
07:11:18.840
Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram, if you can make it
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Are we forgetting anything, Nick, or are we good?
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No, you said you didn't want to be able to do the other stuff, but you might have to give
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Yeah, I think we're, I think we're all caught up.
07:11:42.700
Andrew, birth control was invented to reduce the number of kids in the nuclear family.
07:12:01.680
Have you ever considered doing a Q and a episode?
07:12:07.000
I mean, maybe down the road, but I mean, we just do the dating talks.
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We don't tend to do much of, like, other formats, so occasionally we do, but mostly we
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Anyways, any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make
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We'll see you on Tuesday, and yeah, good night, guys.