Whatever Podcast - CONFRONTING Viral Gym E-girl! 50 Body Count At 21？! Makeup DEBATE! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ｜ Dating Talk #139

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00:03:33.460 hi i'm maddie ruve i'm 21 i do only fans wait in location yeah like where where are you from oh

00:03:42.000 california california so like uh orange county oh okay all right and you recently went viral uh for

00:03:49.700 like what do they what are they calling you pulse squat girl that's the name of the gym the or or 1.00

00:03:55.560 pulse that's what i was that's the name of the move that's the name of the movement yeah okay i was at

00:03:59.640 la fitness okay and you you got how many views like across social media like 300 million or something

00:04:04.620 300 million yeah yeah okay well we're gonna pull it up we're gonna we're gonna joey swole reacted to it

00:04:10.700 so we're gonna see his reaction we're gonna see the original and we'll have a little discussion on that

00:04:15.360 what about you um misra um 21 okay and i did only fans um i'm in between right now

00:04:27.820 so sorry um i did only fans but i'm in between right now um and yeah where are you from um

00:04:40.220 originally in turkey but right now riverside were you born in turkey turkey okay istanbul uh no

00:04:48.260 uh ismir i love that place it's dope my okay and are you a student or um not anymore what were

00:05:00.060 you studying previously um i was psychology psych okay yeah what about you my name is megan robinson

00:05:07.960 i have a mindset coaching business and i have a podcast called lessons in self-love i'm 22 years

00:05:15.620 old and i'm from washington dc all right welcome so you flew here i did first time to california no okay

00:05:23.700 got it what about you hi my name is kendall i'm 19 years old and i'm a student where at i'm at the

00:05:32.780 santa barbara city college what are you studying i'm studying communications gotcha and where are you

00:05:37.140 from originally um i've moved a lot but originally from san diego got it what about you my name is

00:05:45.620 kayla um i'm 30 i live in las vegas um i'm a stripper an author and i'm also starting real estate

00:05:53.120 all right welcome um my name is kyla i'm 18 years old um i'm a student and i'm from santa barbara

00:06:02.580 and uh what are you studying i'm studying business econ as of right now at the city college yeah got

00:06:10.760 it okay hi thank you for having me my name is jordan i'm 25 my husband and i own a private gym

00:06:17.660 in riverside we also do personal training online coaching entrepreneur i'm a wife and a dog mom

00:06:24.320 and we're uh riverside you're you grew up born in riverside um yeah okay thank you uh the q pill

00:06:35.080 behavioral scientist certified relationship coach youtuber entrepreneur author age 31 government name

00:06:43.600 jaquan jaquan okay do you what do you prefer you want them to call you q pill call me q call him q

00:06:52.640 call him q all right cool so we're gonna go around the table once more so what's everybody's

00:06:58.500 current relationship status so you're single talking stage situationship friends with benefits

00:07:06.240 relationship married polycule uh sex cult part of a harim is it harim or harem i've heard 1.00

00:07:14.820 i've heard harim i've heard harim let's go chat chat is it harem or harim harim is ugly as fuck 0.99

00:07:22.960 i thought it was harem for my entire life but then i started hearing harim 0.96

00:07:28.320 so which one is a chat is it which one help us out ppc help us out in the chat first one wait

00:07:39.600 okay one for harim two for harim one for harim two for harim one for harim two for harim

00:07:51.240 okay so if you're in if you're in either of those um let us know if you're single how long have you

00:08:02.340 been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead

00:08:06.700 i'm single not talking to anyone not having sex with anyone and the longest stop the cap 0.77

00:08:14.520 maybe lower it to 90 you're not having p in the v with anybody no i mean don't check my twitter but

00:08:24.460 yeah i did check your twitter and they're on twitter you're having is that ai or are you saying

00:08:29.360 that's ai no um i stopped seeing that person so currently i'm not hooking up with anyone so that's 0.83

00:08:35.100 that was just like in your backlog no that was like a week ago oh oh so you had sex as recently 0.57

00:08:43.840 as a week ago but i also stopped a week ago so you've been are you claiming celibacy yes i feel

00:08:52.640 like a at least a minimum a month before you can claim celibacy okay but before that it was like eight

00:08:59.760 months okay so okay you're was this a guy you were dating or was it just for work no i was dating him

00:09:10.580 my friend introduced us to start dating and then she got jealous that we were seeing each other so

00:09:15.720 she also started fucking him and then i said that makes me uncomfortable and she said i was fine with 0.97

00:09:21.380 sharing and i said well i'm not so i don't talk to either of them anymore yeah how long were you 0.95

00:09:29.980 friends with this lady a few months okay i yeah i have a hard time actually being friends with other

00:09:37.420 sex workers which is funny because i find that these situations always happen so did you consider 0.96

00:09:44.820 the guy that you were seeing your boyfriend or what was it just he asked to be exclusive and i said

00:09:52.160 i'm not seeing other people but like i want like a little bit more time you want a little more time

00:09:59.340 to what decide if there's something better comes along no i'm just like i'm scared of people you know 0.99

00:10:06.220 you never know people slip up i have like a three-month rule yeah they might fuck your friend 0.95

00:10:09.420 yeah okay uh well he was was he in the content adult content creation space yeah you met him he 0.96

00:10:20.460 he was but not in an online way okay but he was also okay to like make and sell content with me so

00:10:27.300 it kind of was like an l i'm not gonna lie for him or for you for me to make content with him yeah

00:10:33.800 why is it now because you had to pay him or no because i only want to make content with a partner

00:10:37.940 i you know i don't make content with strangers so but you'd made content with him yeah who was a

00:10:44.440 kind of a stranger sort of i had known him for like you know oh okay a little bit all right well

00:10:49.660 so okay you've been uh single and not talking to anybody for a week yes okay do you think that's

00:10:56.020 going to reconcile or that's donezo um no it's done okay all right what about you

00:11:03.640 um as of a week i'm in a relationship now as of oh so you've been it's like that wait are you

00:11:14.120 seeing are you dating is this is this your friend yeah we have beef oh yeah i texted her she's a 0.99

00:11:24.580 crazy cunt like what how many days ago no oh my god no no wait that's chat no they're just how's 1.00

00:11:31.980 this nine inch cock though nine inches and girthy i noticed you're wearing a size queen 1.00

00:11:39.440 hold on a minute shirt no i mean i i don't believe that there's actually a oh 0.99

00:11:45.360 so you okay you've been dating a guy for for purposes of clarity for the audience you're not

00:11:52.560 dating her guy no okay so how long have you been seeing this guy or like because you said has it

00:12:02.040 been official for a week but you've been seeing him for longer or um okay so technically i've been

00:12:08.180 talking to him for like a year um but he just came or like technically yeah he just came like a

00:12:18.860 month ago because he used to live in turkey and so he moved to the u.s for me and then i was like

00:12:26.100 now i can be in a relationship because i didn't want to do long distance but but so you first met him

00:12:32.260 a year ago was this in turkey okay well or here i met him like a few years ago because he was my

00:12:39.000 uncle what he was my ex's friend what your ex's friend like best friend but wait you met so while

00:12:51.500 you were dating a guy you met your current

00:12:55.320 yeah ting yeah okay yeah

00:13:02.320 but he deserved it who deserved it like my ex why because he cheated on me 0.96

00:13:12.580 oh so you're just with this new guy as revenge basically because that was like that was like five

00:13:19.960 years ago oh okay so we knew each other back then um obviously we were friends and then um

00:13:27.700 yeah a year ago then we just like we're just friends and i went back to turkey and i was

00:13:32.800 there for like six months and so we were like seeing each other on off and then he officially

00:13:38.060 like moved to u.s for me for you yeah why didn't you move to turkey for him

00:13:44.240 i didn't want to so he likes you more than you like him

00:13:51.900 maybe that's basically what it boils down to not i wouldn't say so because i think like it's very

00:14:01.360 different because turkey it's not good economically right now so it's like no one would choose to

00:14:09.200 yeah i think i can i think i can i think that's the one exception to the man moving america is

00:14:15.360 better than turkey so i mean watch out all the watch out you're gonna invoke the wrath of the turkish 1.00

00:14:22.940 do you want to apologize to all the turkish people that you've just 0.99

00:14:27.740 fuck no america number one sorry okay all right so okay so he moved here so you've been talking to him 0.98

00:14:37.120 for a year you said is that correct yes okay were you seeing were you seeing other guys in that one 0.99

00:14:43.760 year period yes hey but it was on and off like you had an on and off again long distance relationship

00:14:52.920 no i was in turkey for six months okay so for the first for the first six months okay so you guys

00:15:00.940 were dating there yeah was it on and off again there yeah yeah so you've always been on off oh

00:15:07.640 okay yeah he moved for an on again off again relationship yeah i mean i don't know okay all

00:15:16.240 right so you've been he's been here for a week um he's been here for a month oh been here for a month

00:15:22.900 has it been off yet no how's it is it any arguing so far no arguing did he move with you or did he

00:15:30.020 move into oh so y'all live together okay okay good times okay all right uh okay what about you

00:15:38.380 i have a boyfriend we've been together for about 10 months now and we just had our first session of

00:15:45.660 premarital counseling like a week ago so we're very serious wait uh you and him went together to

00:15:54.320 see a therapist no so premarital counseling in like the christian religion you have to go there and

00:16:00.860 like talk to a priest for a couple sessions okay before like you get engaged so that you can prepare

00:16:07.360 properly i didn't know that what what denomination it's a christian christian pastor

00:16:16.120 protestant evangelical um this specific church we go to is just like a bible church i don't know

00:16:25.080 so in order to denominational something like that in order to get married at that specific church you

00:16:30.140 have to do like the couple premarital i don't think it's required but it's something that we wanted to

00:16:36.860 do okay just to make sure we're like doing right by god in like the covenant that we have so love

00:16:44.860 that huh how many sessions is it i think it's like five and what so what is discussed in so the first

00:16:55.360 one he just kind of gave us advice because he's been married for like 40 years so he was just talking

00:17:01.800 to us about like our relationship who we are why coyote 50 donated 100 what's up with kaiser wilhelm

00:17:10.120 back there dude looks like he's planning to go around the magino line and invade france suspicious

00:17:16.600 well you know here's the thing right so this is a chilean chile south america military uniform

00:17:24.460 uh you know it has certain prussian uh military influences dating back to the early 19th uh 1900s perhaps

00:17:34.180 even before and uh so he's thinking about you know i think he's looking at peru he's looking at peru

00:17:43.460 um you know there's argentina's pretty close you know so yeah thank you for that appreciate it what

00:17:54.200 uh go on you were talking about the meeting thing yeah we just had our first session so i'm not

00:18:01.340 entirely sure what it entails but i know there's a section on like handling conflict and it also talks

00:18:08.540 about like sexual stuff and how you're supposed to approach that so we how are you supposed to

00:18:15.920 approach sexual stuff so we are not having sex until we're married and that's the decision that

00:18:23.880 we both made like early on in our relationship um we want to do what god says is right in a marriage

00:18:33.180 and we feel like sexual activity and that kind of pleasure and like the hedonism aspect of that

00:18:41.100 is something to be earned from having like a good relationship and growing together got it wait so

00:18:49.920 are you both virgins no but you guys have not with each other haven't had right that's correct any 0.98

00:18:58.060 sexual intercourse that's correct okay um and so 0.99

00:19:03.740 okay cool i feel like i had a follow-up question so okay 0.98

00:19:13.480 why why the shift is my question so neither of you are virgins why all why go from having had sex 0.82

00:19:23.780 previously to now we want to wait all the way until marriage

00:19:27.660 well before him and i started dating so we were friends for a couple years before we started dating

00:19:36.940 he actually decided like autonomously that he wanted to do a nine month period of celibacy himself so this

00:19:45.300 was before like my influence he chose to do that and i was also going through a similar thing

00:19:51.880 and when we started dating like right off the bat i just told him like you know i want to wait like

00:19:58.740 that's just what i prefer and then as we grew in our relationship with god we made like more strict

00:20:06.480 decisions about what we were going to do so it was a process all right got it are you guys engaged

00:20:14.860 not yet not yet okay what about you go ahead um i'm in a relationship how long have you guys been

00:20:21.380 dating like a month one month yeah what's your longest relationship like two and a half years

00:20:28.160 when did that end like four months ago so you were single for about three months yeah okay

00:20:37.740 so you're currently how did you guys meet your current situation um we met at a party party

00:20:44.980 how long did y'all talk before y'all got in a relationship

00:20:49.800 like a month so two you've known him for two months total okay who uh he approached you you

00:20:59.720 approached him he approached me what was his what did he say he's like sup yeah exactly was that a frat

00:21:06.260 party yeah is he a frat boy yes called it okay which frat sig app uh i can't say okay that's fine

00:21:16.180 was it a foam cannon party a what foam foam cannon no it was like a it was a rodeo a rodeo theme

00:21:26.240 yeah something like that so you came dressed as a cowgirl and he just saw you and got to talk to

00:21:32.080 that cowgirl yep oh god that was sorry that was okay uh okay so

00:21:40.320 my god it's pulling teeth tonight okay he approached you oh um yeah he approached me and he

00:21:52.240 called me like really pretty and we just kind of talked and then we realized we were both from

00:21:56.380 san diego we went to the same high school worked at the same job just like didn't even realize okay

00:22:03.900 lives like six minutes away from me from home just like perfect match did you guys have a one night

00:22:11.000 stand well not a one night stand but like did it go down that night no no the night after what

00:22:18.320 the night after no it did not happen that night okay what about you um so i've been completely

00:22:25.240 single for like two years um but i've been dating and since then but now my ex is trying to come back

00:22:32.720 into my life but i don't like him i don't even want him single you said single for two years yeah

00:22:37.700 longest relationship it was five years but i was like 15 to 20. any kids one one kid yeah

00:22:45.660 is the guy who's trying to come back is that your no okay all right what about you i'm single

00:22:54.660 my longest relationship was two years and a month how long have you been single uh

00:23:01.920 for a year and two months one year two how many days me days yeah you said one year two months how

00:23:11.640 many days hours minutes two seems like you're keeping track of when the breakup occurred

00:23:16.000 who dumped who i dumped him of course yeah why um he just wasn't changing the things i asked him to

00:23:26.260 change oh what and what are those um he oh gosh that was so long ago i feel like

00:23:36.500 um he just wasn't really prioritizing the relationship he was more prioritizing other

00:23:43.380 things not that like you have to prioritize me specifically like constantly but it was kind

00:23:50.040 of just like he was putting me in the dark all the time so i just like had to respect myself and

00:23:57.160 couldn't take it anymore but you said you asked him to make certain changes and he wasn't he didn't

00:24:05.100 make those changes so what was it just the example that you provided were there other things

00:24:10.360 um it was mainly just like he wasn't prioritizing prioritizing you like how often would you guys hang

00:24:17.220 out um like once or twice a week depending on um the season because he played basketball

00:24:25.080 how tall was he um like five five ten this was definitely high school basketball well of course

00:24:36.120 okay wait so depending on this yeah go ahead so excuse me you said he was prioritizing other things

00:24:45.340 what were the things he's prioritizing like his friends um yeah he well he was also like to be

00:24:50.660 honest he was kind of lazy um he just like red flag um like we'd make plans and then he would just be

00:24:58.120 like i'm really tired i just want to lay in bed we're so basically tired of um he was playing junior

00:25:04.460 varsity basketball i mean give the cut the guy it wasn't even during that season cut him some slack

00:25:09.720 he was tired after practice but also like i'm an extrovert he was an introvert we just didn't match

00:25:15.800 word okay so you guys only so it's pretty much what you guys just weren't hanging out enough

00:25:23.820 um it wasn't even just that i just like think that like over the span of two years after like

00:25:31.420 constantly asking him to change certain things i just kind of got change what change what though

00:25:36.200 just like him like prioritizing the relationship but you said plural change things besides that change

00:25:42.640 what um i mean specifically i'm like trying to think i'm like blanking she mentioned lazy

00:25:50.460 yeah he was just like attractive yeah like i would i would ask him to like go for like go somewhere to

00:25:57.280 like do something and he would just be like oh i just want to lay in bed or like for example i he

00:26:04.260 liked the dodgers i took him to dodger games and he um never did any of that for me like went to

00:26:12.160 disneyland for my birthday my mom paid for my ticket he didn't pay anything not that you have to pay

00:26:17.080 but i mean it's like 50 50 right and it was more 80 20 i'd say okay is it possible was he loyal to

00:26:27.560 you um that's so funny you say that um yeah for as much as i know i mean i have my own reservations on

00:26:39.660 things but that's what he says is it possible you were the side chick i definitely don't think so he

00:26:47.480 for he for sure was definitely like like in love with me don't get me wrong he was a good boyfriend

00:26:54.680 he just like definitely got too comfortable i think too comfortable okay all right what about you

00:27:02.320 happily married for how long uh six months six months but we've been dating for like six years

00:27:11.240 six years six months kids nope planning to yep how many don't know don't know okay cute what about

00:27:21.240 you man single doing me whatever i want whenever i feel like it that's right

00:27:26.360 all right cool so we're gonna get we're gonna get into our first uh actually you know what before

00:27:34.820 we pull up maddie's viral no let's do maddie's viral clip thing first all right maddie

00:27:41.800 the clip

00:27:45.660 yeah

00:27:47.460 are you

00:28:08.940 okay uh so first off a couple questions there i noticed something uh

00:28:30.160 your phone screen was cracked but i i have uh okay the kick the supposed kick right it looked

00:28:43.040 pretty like a gentle kick not a kick that would sufficiently crack a phone screen so was your

00:28:49.280 screen already cracked yes so you but you kind of framed it you gave it the spin where like he

00:28:57.080 cracked the screen but it was already damaged my screen was already cracked and it got one more

00:29:01.840 crack from from the from the slight kick kick okay not saying look it's not appropriate for him to uh

00:29:10.920 to kick your property that's never appropriate um but that's one thing that caught my eye so uh

00:29:18.300 you're doing that in the gym yeah okay and that she posted that it went viral

00:29:26.020 well tell us a bit about the backlash okay any back any backlash any praise

00:29:33.140 okay first we need to go back like two years because yeah let's go back there so we go back

00:29:38.660 totally totally related no i swear we're gonna get there okay because this like will help oh my god 0.93

00:29:44.960 that mic came out nowhere holy fuck if you think it's like right or wrong like you need to know like 0.71

00:29:49.780 where the exercise came from yeah yeah right definitely so two years ago my friend's super 0.98

00:29:53.840 into fitness i watch all of her stories she posts all this stuff she posted that exercise without the

00:29:59.180 bouncing and said that if you can do this for a minute it's linked to longevity did i look any

00:30:04.080 further into it no but did i start doing it like every day when i went to the gym yes okay as a

00:30:09.540 stretch okay and then i was working out like probably a year ago and i was filming just for

00:30:17.460 vlogging and then i realized that it looked kind of sexual and so i started adding like a bounce to it

00:30:22.980 okay and i started filming it for reels but it still was a part of my warm-up and i had just you know

00:30:30.580 added it for that um so that's where the exercise came from i still do it like three times a week

00:30:37.460 doesn't matter yeah at that same gym or have you no i moved to equinox oh you moved okay do people

00:30:45.440 recognize you when you're doing yeah doing that exercise yeah wait i have a question though okay okay

00:30:51.420 all right was it staged no

00:30:56.060 you sure yes

00:31:02.780 okay okay okay all right 0.99

00:31:19.360 oh why are you why are you looking at me now what the fuck i thought we're having a staring 0.96

00:31:24.580 contest yeah but the the sound the sound thing ended so kind of put me in a trend 0.99

00:31:28.880 you're tranced out so it wasn't it wasn't you know people be staging shit for you know it's not 0.90

00:31:36.840 you know yeah not stage no i do understand that wasn't the guy who just dumped you

00:31:41.140 no oh sorry oh sorry just flashbacks flashbacks no the guy that i was just with was like six 0.98

00:31:51.300 something yeah that guy was ryan holt donated 100 that clip pissed me off so much fuck that 1.00

00:32:00.660 entitled pos girl without natural selection unfortunately we have to deal with idiots like 1.00

00:32:06.500 smh can't believe you have her on but i get it views actually you know what maddie's here's the 1.00

00:32:13.400 thing she's been on before and i actually reached out to you to invite you back before the whole

00:32:18.380 viral thing like we had scheduled you to be on today's show like two weeks ago three weeks ago

00:32:24.100 before the before it went viral so it's kind of just happenstance that she happened to have this

00:32:28.640 yeah this wild gym moment um in between that but uh not staged not staged because like i just i

00:32:37.920 don't know q like i'm trying to figure out what

00:32:42.340 sorry go ahead i'm trying to figure out you why the fuck did you add the bouncing why did i add the 0.98

00:32:51.500 bouncing yeah okay because when i post it on reels it looks like i'm like riding a dick and so i always 0.97

00:32:56.820 put that clip with a caption that says wondering when i'm going to be recognized from my leg day

00:33:01.200 warm-up or from my videos based off my leg day warm-up on youtube does that make sense you just

00:33:07.220 said that yeah okay i'm sorry to the world i'm sorry for her i'll pray for her initially i thought

00:33:13.740 you said it looks sexual so you added the wait i'm confused you added the bouncing because people

00:33:19.200 thought it was already sexual so you just fit you just fit into it i started doing it like a long

00:33:25.200 time ago uh-huh i it always had the bounce when i was filming oh okay okay i thought you said you

00:33:30.040 added the bouncing when i filmed it like anytime i filmed it it's been the same thing oh okay yeah 0.96

00:33:35.440 okay so so it was to elicit sex yeah okay i mean it's also good for you but yeah sex is good for you 0.95

00:33:43.700 yeah so it's you know deep was it so you do of was it helpful in terms of procuring subscribers 0.86

00:33:51.380 that the whole viral okay um so i had like 281 000 followers on instagram yeah and then after

00:34:01.980 everything it went to 285 but on average a day i gain like 500 followers when i'm not like my videos

00:34:09.580 are just doing normal yeah so it gave me like a little boost and then my the money that i made for

00:34:15.880 the day for like four days doubled okay well so i'm gonna open and we have a video from joey swole

00:34:21.760 that i'll pull up after i get the panel's opinions on that you all saw the video so your guys's reaction

00:34:28.020 do you think is that a actual exercise do you think it's appropriate appropriate to be doing in the gym

00:34:34.720 do you think it's a bit a bit sexual you know because like if you saw a guy like doing like hip thrusts

00:34:41.240 you know you might be like eh it's a little i don't know if it's uh you know appropriate for gym

00:34:46.420 okay but before about or on valentine's day there were all these reels going viral and it was men

00:34:52.860 doing hip thrusts rolling out but they were just humping the floor and then doing this with a weight

00:34:59.180 that's all sexual they're all doing sexual things in the gym but every single one of those videos got

00:35:04.760 praise what what is the exercise they're doing like they're like spot they put like weights on their

00:35:10.940 like wow that's yeah and like that okay maybe you see someone doing that like whatever but like

00:35:16.820 humping the floor in a gym like i wasn't humping the floor okay i was riding it all right there you

00:35:22.980 go all right going around the table your reaction your thoughts i don't think there's anything wrong

00:35:28.220 with it of course okay also sorry i'm in full sweats making no noises no tripod hold on but you're

00:35:37.140 doing you did like the the like lip in the side of the mouth people make all kinds of faces when

00:35:44.140 they work out here pull it pull it up again pull it up again you're doing like a face like the the you

00:35:49.740 know the the i'm facing a wall though yeah go ahead you can mute the audio oh wait can you start it from

00:35:59.720 the beginning maybe well it's like right at the beginning yeah

00:36:03.980 we don't need look at that the tongue in the in the cheek there's something in my mouth that's okay

00:36:19.200 okay all right anyways so nothing wrong what your thoughts appropriate inappropriate i think

00:36:26.960 based on like the environment you grow up in certain things you do like one person would feel

00:36:34.080 comfortable with someone else wouldn't feel comfortable with i don't think i would feel

00:36:38.500 comfortable doing that but like if you feel comfortable then you know that's that

00:36:46.020 okay um i kind of i kind of agree with what you're saying kind of just it depends on

00:36:57.160 i also like feel like it depends on like the location of it too like if you if there was an

00:37:02.820 option to go into like a smaller room like a private room and do it like maybe that would be

00:37:07.560 more appropriate than doing it on the open but i also don't think there's like a huge problem with

00:37:13.260 doing it on the open so usually i do do it in like the rooms in the gym see that makes sense then

00:37:19.560 yeah that that's and like at this gym i went into the smallest corner like on the stretching mats and

00:37:24.660 like the corner corner of the gym yeah like i tried to be respectful

00:37:28.180 i mean i like it um i do like would i do it in the gym probably not um i like it

00:37:38.460 i personally like don't see an issue with it i mean like you do you like thanks girl

00:37:44.640 okay so i'm an actual trainer so great mobility thank you good ankle mobility good knee mobility

00:37:54.040 um now if you were in my gym because i probably would say something too not like that and i definitely

00:38:02.640 wouldn't kick your phone um but it definitely does give like a sexual message for sure which 1.00

00:38:08.720 i'm sure that's what you were trying to do anyways but when there's like a public gym like you don't

00:38:12.900 know like a lot of a lot of women feel insecure about their boyfriends whatever going to the gym

00:38:18.780 because they might say something like that right so i mean in terms of like it being in a public

00:38:24.820 place i don't entirely agree but i don't entirely disagree either i'm more impressed with your form

00:38:30.740 looks really good thank you i looks really good so that would say i don't think it's my problem

00:38:37.080 that other people's boyfriends can't keep their eyes anywhere else in the gym yeah yeah i mean so i

00:38:44.520 mean that's not for me but definitely for a lot of people also hip thrusts men can do hip thrusts

00:38:50.420 it's nothing wrong with that yeah by the way it's good actually the creative hip thrust is a guy

00:38:54.980 it's attention 304 behavior 304 damn attention 304 behavior of course the women are going to support 0.99

00:39:04.460 it because girl power female empowerment but you know you're listening a sexual response that's the 1.00

00:39:10.360 whole motivation behind why you're doing it and we understand that men are visual creatures so when

00:39:14.620 you get in a setting around men and you do things like this that's why the guy came to you and said

00:39:18.300 this is not going to be done in my gym because he understood the underlying motive and what you were

00:39:23.140 doing and he didn't like it because too many women nowadays who are doing that trying to elicit 1.00

00:39:27.320 sexual responses for attention to make money on social media and it's just that simple i mean if

00:39:32.000 that's what you want to do that's what you want to do but as you can see he didn't like it so yeah but

00:39:36.660 i wasn't harming anyone it doesn't matter it's not about it's not about harm it's about what you're

00:39:41.560 doing what you're what you're eliciting what you're evoking that's all it is so to play innocent as you

00:39:47.540 said in the caption what'd you say in the caption um what'd you say in the caption she was like i can't work

00:39:52.380 out in peace or something what'd you say in the caption what'd you put in the caption um i can't

00:39:58.580 believe i'm not here maddie why don't you read it i can't believe i'm not allowed to stretch at the

00:40:02.640 gym because of what i do for work do you guys actually think this was called for someone please

00:40:06.400 have my back yeah see it's the innocence it's the position of innocence that you took like oh my god

00:40:10.740 i'm just stretching i'm just i mean what you were doing dog in the corner of a gym in the corner of a

00:40:16.500 gym facing a wall you are gonna come up to someone doing an actual exercise that a personal trainer

00:40:22.420 has labeled as an actual exercise that's good for my ankles and knees i mean that's good it's good for 1.00

00:40:27.920 your ankles like are you gonna come after the yoga girls next like damn she's in downward dog fuck her 1.00

00:40:32.720 yoga is a little different is it yeah it's a form of exercise it is a form of exercise but you're not 1.00

00:40:39.140 actively trying to elicit a sexual response you've already stated that that's what you were trying

00:40:44.600 to do overtly you've stated that so once you've stated that's what you were trying to do that now

00:40:49.020 it becomes valid that's what you were doing yeah but it also is a stretch like you're saying i

00:40:53.140 was trying to elicit a sexual response yes but that's not true because i do that when i'm not

00:40:58.300 filming you're trying to do that same exercise you're trying to use the strength as a trojan horse

00:41:03.160 it's an exercise so it's actually not a stretch it's an exercise but if you hold it it's a stretch

00:41:08.260 if you just hold it by itself which i do both like i'm gonna read this one really quick grid 0.73

00:41:12.860 grid one motorsports uh fuck's sake if you want to be a stripper just get a job as a stripper this 0.92

00:41:17.380 304 is the lowest form of blank stop it get some help the patriarchy is here to help you be better 0.95

00:41:22.420 from grid one you have any anything you want to say to grid one the little grid one if you want to

00:41:30.520 be a stripper just get a job as a stripper i don't want to be a stripper i want to be an online 304

00:41:35.580 because that's what i chose to do i've been a stripper she chose i chose this the 304 life

00:41:41.700 304 life yeah you you didn't i think yeah i don't know what i'm trying to say i was meant for it what's

00:41:47.960 that destiny framing of it the streets oh i didn't show the streets chose me but i chose the how's that

00:41:57.040 go anybody you know i didn't choose the streets the streets chose me yeah that thing i would like

00:42:04.540 to defend you for a second i don't think like you being completely comfortable with doing that

00:42:12.240 i don't think that that's necessarily your fault because there is some accountability on you know

00:42:19.720 the gym and the higher-ups and just society in general to not normalize that kind of behavior

00:42:25.600 you know so if someone is not saying that it's bad and you don't even know that it's bad

00:42:31.420 like we're just accepting that and we're condoning it and we're enabling it that's true you got anything

00:42:36.960 more i know you wanted to have more cure you got i actually lost my train of thought that's it

00:42:43.100 when you came in okay but if someone comes back let me know came up to me and said hi this makes

00:42:49.580 me a little bit uncomfortable like i would be like oh my god i'm so sorry i was like you know

00:42:55.380 what i mean and also to the point of like what we've normalized and stuff and like what's okay in a

00:43:03.200 gym and what's not there's no rules against filming there should be though okay i think filming should

00:43:08.360 be banned in gyms in some gyms yeah i agree that there should be something you can go to and

00:43:12.920 there's no phones like no filming in that gym and you just know that that's the one that you go to

00:43:16.720 and other ones they do allow it and so other people can go to that one i don't see why gyms 0.98

00:43:22.740 aren't uh anybody here currently go to a gym do it is there any sort of filming policies for any

00:43:29.200 of the gyms that you guys go to it's shocking to me that gyms just having the wholesale

00:43:34.020 banned filming in gyms do you guys see that often when you do go to the gym somebody has their like

00:43:40.880 iphone uh propped up tripod even you guys see that at all no not really they banned is it just 0.99

00:43:48.620 fucking la that this shit is going down happening in just fucking people filming in gyms tripods are 0.97

00:43:54.500 banned tripods are banned in the gym that i go to currently okay uh pull up the instagram again i want 1.00

00:44:02.540 to read some of the comments let's see what the people the people are saying okay no one should have

00:44:09.280 your back uh put us on the other side no one should have your back on this one yeah people don't want

00:44:16.760 to see you making sexual content in public you got a follow just because of how that a-hole treated you 1.00

00:44:23.120 and again look uh assuming it wasn't fucking staged uh absolutely not appropriate for him to have touched 0.98

00:44:30.320 your property like that that's uh not cool and he definitely stepped you in a pretty aggressive way 0.75

00:44:35.400 that's not cool too uh even if he had an issue he could have approached you more diplomatically

00:44:41.840 i mean i would even argue it's probably like he probably shouldn't even honestly i mean i don't know

00:44:48.920 if he has an issue maybe he's got to go to gym management if he feels like he has a valid concern

00:44:54.640 because i don't think what honestly like look there's definitely a a lot of people doing like 0.93

00:45:03.020 ridiculous shit in the gym people are getting fed up with it that guy was probably frustrated 0.73

00:45:06.800 um but probably best to address it with the gym management directly um so yeah but i don't know 1.00

00:45:16.280 if you were like if you're doing something more egregious i don't know like fucking damaging the 0.97

00:45:22.140 gym in some way then he could like come up to you be like yo what the fuck you doing but i don't know 0.97

00:45:26.780 was that actually his gym or was no i think there's no way that's his pull it back up because 0.98

00:45:32.680 he could say that if that was his gym uh you deserve it he's right that's a real man i totally agree

00:45:37.780 with him okay these guys are a little more someone please have my back i'm a victim hopefully and her

00:45:42.880 she'll blame her all her mental health issues on others i have a question i mean i haven't done a

00:45:47.740 deep dive on all of your uh tiktoks and reels and whatnot do you frequently find yourself in kind of

00:45:55.160 public conflict situations in public like does this happen to you like you just get into

00:46:03.140 situations like this with people in real life yeah um is that not real life and

00:46:10.460 i'm like in video game or no um okay honestly no like i've never had anyone that's like has met me

00:46:22.980 okay besides guys that i've dated but not just like people okay in that i'm interacting with in

00:46:28.840 like a grocery store or this or that all right well let's pull it back up really quick there's a few

00:46:34.540 more comments then we'll see what joey swole has to say uh deserved coffee tea i'm gonna don't do 0.99

00:46:41.100 your 3fo shit in public place how come people don't see this as fake you're literally smiling the 0.99

00:46:46.500 whole time see i thought it was fake dude okay i thought it was fake the thing is when like a man 1.00

00:46:52.180 comes at you like kind of aggressively as a woman like you don't really have a choice but to be 0.65

00:46:56.460 submissive like what am i gonna do like argue with him when he already like got to a form of aggression

00:47:02.660 of like hitting my personal property it's just here's why i think look it might be real here's why i think

00:47:08.560 it's staged it's just seems so

00:47:11.500 his kicking your phone is really disproportionate to what you're doing so it just seems like

00:47:22.400 contrived and then your reaction to it kind of like if somebody like kicked my phone i'd be like

00:47:29.880 i don't know people react in different ways but you

00:47:34.460 but you're not a girl and you don't see she doesn't seem confrontational well i'm not yeah

00:47:38.680 she doesn't she doesn't seem confrontational so i was like do you i mean i don't know i think she

00:47:43.380 might i don't know were you scared i was scared i was like shaking after i just grabbed my stuff

00:47:50.460 and i don't know i'm going home this place sucks oh you didn't finish your workout no okay all right 0.88

00:47:56.060 okay uh let's let's get the joey oh actually we have a couple chats hold on get the joey swole 0.97

00:48:02.740 already though we had a dose dostoevsky can you read this one maddie of course she was right it's

00:48:08.980 a public gym and why the hell would a dude be there just approaching women out of nowhere and

00:48:13.720 make some inflammatory remark while she's working out and then oh wait okay uh we have this one

00:48:20.440 you don't film in gyms uh and then this guy says if the gym is public then yeah you have every

00:48:28.620 right to film and you know anyways we have joey swole here he has some thoughts on it

00:48:33.500 all right go ahead and play it

00:48:39.280 grid one motorsports donated 100 let's be honest the craptastic video was staged better than the

00:48:48.980 2020 election results we get it you need to be a who to drive traffic i weep for our youth

00:48:55.440 may god have mercy on you may god have mercy on you thank you i don't think that's a true like

00:49:08.160 religious person thing to say though because like in the bible god always says you know don't

00:49:15.160 be harsh on them for they know not what they do and if there is an element of like naivety

00:49:20.600 wait is that verbatim i thought that doesn't sound verbatim to me don't condemn close we're not

00:49:26.820 yeah we're not supposed to judge or condemn i know this one it's uh wait isn't it like we can

00:49:33.100 say in a loving way for they know not what they do or hold on chat help me out here okay let's play

00:49:39.580 thank you grid one let's play the joey swole video

00:49:50.200 Are you playing?

00:50:05.300 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:06.000 This is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

00:50:08.360 Don't come to my gym. 1.00

00:50:10.520 Don't fucking do to somebody. 0.99

00:50:13.320 Oh, no. 0.99

00:50:18.040 A ton of people sent me this video asking me who's right, who's wrong.

00:50:22.400 My answer, they're both wrong.

00:50:25.080 First off to this man, you have no right to speak to anyone that way.

00:50:29.480 You don't classify all women based off that girl.

00:50:33.400 And you absolutely never touch someone's property.

00:50:37.280 If you have a problem, you talk to gym management and you let them handle it.

00:50:41.620 But this woman is also wrong.

00:50:43.680 The type of content she creates in the gym is not okay and not appropriate. 0.99

00:50:48.480 Including this video.

00:50:50.920 She tries to defend herself saying that she's doing pistol squats and warming up.

00:50:55.680 This is not a pistol squat.

00:50:58.000 You know exactly what you were doing.

00:51:00.420 And then you go and say, why do we have to sexualize everything?

00:51:04.120 We don't.

00:51:04.840 But you do, including when you did the exact same warm-up and said this on the video and put it in the caption, practicing every day to please you, daddy.

00:51:15.800 And a photo like this, bent over on all fours, where you say, let me sit on it.

00:51:22.180 Now listen, I have no problem with OnlyFans.

00:51:24.660 You make money however you want as long as you do so legally.

00:51:27.680 But there is a time and place for everything.

00:51:31.280 And the gym is not one of them.

00:51:34.020 If I was manager or owner of this gym, I would ask you once, politely, to stop doing that.

00:51:39.700 If you continue to do so, I'd ask you to leave to protect my gym members and my gym community.

00:51:45.160 Let me know what you guys think below.

00:51:48.740 Your reaction to Joey Swole?

00:51:52.140 Oh, did you see the reaction video?

00:51:54.160 Oh, you made a reaction video?

00:51:55.560 Yeah, it's pretty good.

00:51:56.540 Well, you're here in the flesh.

00:51:57.480 Why don't we just have you?

00:52:00.100 I actually didn't watch his whole video through where he pulled up.

00:52:07.820 You made a reaction video without watching?

00:52:10.560 I just, when he said, like, you knew exactly what you were doing, I stitched it.

00:52:15.260 And I actually said, yeah, I was practicing to please you, daddy.

00:52:17.320 Which is funny because I didn't know that he pulled up to please you, daddy.

00:52:22.400 Oh, so you admit you were doing it for?

00:52:24.360 Oh, I'm just trolling trolls at this point.

00:52:26.300 Like, I'm getting ripped apart on the internet.

00:52:28.460 Like, it might as well be funny.

00:52:29.760 Oh, okay.

00:52:30.580 All right.

00:52:32.480 But I didn't see where he pulled up my photos and screenshots of my videos and stuff.

00:52:37.320 He had receipts.

00:52:37.840 He had receipts.

00:52:38.440 But, like, those pictures of me in the gym is in an empty room.

00:52:45.960 Like, I took those photos in an empty room.

00:52:48.740 So, like, I don't really see why that would be an issue in a gym.

00:52:54.440 But it's sort of like, I'm trying to think what the exact wording is.

00:52:59.240 There's a, it's sort of like additional circumstantial evidence against your case.

00:53:04.200 Like, okay, here, here's her taking these, she's got the subtitles or whatever.

00:53:11.480 What's it called?

00:53:12.020 I don't know.

00:53:12.360 You put a caption saying sexual things.

00:53:16.480 So, there's like a pattern of behavior.

00:53:18.440 I think that's what I was looking for.

00:53:19.880 A pattern of behavior of you going into gyms, taking sort of provocative photos with captions that are sexually provocative.

00:53:27.980 And then, all of a sudden, you're going to claim, oh, but this one, that's innocent.

00:53:33.420 That's, so it's a pattern of behavior.

00:53:35.580 I'm arguing that it is a stretch.

00:53:38.740 And, you know, I'm arguing that it's for both.

00:53:41.700 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:53:42.840 It's like, I do it all the time at the gym.

00:53:44.780 I've never had a problem.

00:53:46.340 No one's ever even looked at me when I do it.

00:53:48.320 Okay.

00:53:48.700 I go into the corner of the gym, film my little thing.

00:53:50.740 It's a whole warm-up.

00:53:51.920 Like, that takes not very long.

00:53:53.380 You know what I mean?

00:53:54.080 So, like, to, like, just focus on this one thing at the gym ever.

00:53:58.480 Like, I saw a video of this guy doing those, like, bent over.

00:54:01.520 What are they called?

00:54:02.140 Where you, like, stand wide and then you just bend over.

00:54:06.020 Stand wide?

00:54:06.700 Good mornings?

00:54:07.580 Oh, when you, like, hinge your hips back and stretch.

00:54:11.100 Yeah.

00:54:11.340 Good mornings.

00:54:11.640 He was doing, you know, he's doing those in the gym.

00:54:14.240 Like.

00:54:14.380 Yeah, that's a workout.

00:54:15.740 I love those.

00:54:16.600 What's that what you are doing?

00:54:16.960 They're great.

00:54:18.000 Yeah, they're good.

00:54:19.560 What do you want to see?

00:54:21.420 Look directly into this camera here.

00:54:23.180 And I want you to give a message to Joey Swole.

00:54:25.820 What do you have to say to Joey Swole?

00:54:27.900 To Joey Swole?

00:54:29.260 Hey, wait, Joey, you can come down now.

00:54:32.020 He's up.

00:54:32.720 No, I'm kidding.

00:54:33.520 What do you have to say to him?

00:54:35.300 Oh, wait.

00:54:36.860 Look deep into this camera.

00:54:38.280 Deep into the camera?

00:54:39.540 What do you want to say to Joey?

00:54:41.080 Do you want to?

00:54:41.520 I want you to apologize to Joey.

00:54:45.000 Apologize?

00:54:45.960 Joey.

00:54:46.480 I need.

00:54:47.360 I plead innocent.

00:54:49.080 Oh, okay.

00:54:50.480 All right.

00:54:50.800 He's going to further prosecute you.

00:54:52.080 I don't think I did anything wrong.

00:54:53.720 Stop sending your army out to get me in my comments.

00:54:56.820 They're not nice.

00:54:58.500 You're saying he's trying to cancel you?

00:55:00.360 No, I'm saying like.

00:55:01.220 Oh, the followers?

00:55:02.040 My comments got flooded with like Joey Swole's armies here.

00:55:05.480 Okay.

00:55:05.840 They ripped me apart.

00:55:06.920 Yeah, they.

00:55:08.320 He.

00:55:08.660 I agree with him.

00:55:09.860 Joey Swole.

00:55:11.120 He's got to get some.

00:55:12.560 Fair.

00:55:13.320 Yeah.

00:55:14.960 Yeah.

00:55:15.280 Wait, okay.

00:55:17.580 Yo, we should get Joey Swole on the show and like have you guys do.

00:55:20.260 Yes.

00:55:20.640 He lives or he goes to a gym down the street from me.

00:55:24.340 He's in SoCal, right?

00:55:25.220 All right.

00:55:25.520 We'll set it up.

00:55:26.400 Yeah.

00:55:26.840 I should just get him on the show.

00:55:28.520 Period.

00:55:28.960 Joey.

00:55:30.040 All right.

00:55:30.440 We're going to make it happen.

00:55:31.280 Okay.

00:55:32.220 I think that's pretty much it unless anybody else on the panel has any further thoughts.

00:55:37.320 Agree with Joey Swole.

00:55:38.520 How about we'll go around the table.

00:55:39.700 Agree or disagree with Joey Swole?

00:55:41.020 Disagree.

00:55:47.400 Disagree, but also you can like go to the gym and like do your own like workout and like

00:55:54.660 whatever that you need to do and also be sexual with it. 0.68

00:55:58.280 Like there doesn't have to be like one purpose.

00:56:02.180 Grid One Motorsports donated $100.

00:56:06.040 Jesus said on the cross, forgive them, Father.

00:56:08.380 They know not what they do, but she did know what she was doing and will go to hell for

00:56:13.420 her sins as remorseless as she is for those are the wages of sin. 0.99

00:56:17.800 Wow.

00:56:17.940 Look at that. 0.58

00:56:18.660 You're going, you're going to hell for your little, uh, gym pull squat video.

00:56:27.020 You're going to, you're going to get up to those pearly gates and they're going to be

00:56:31.040 like, they're going to play that video and be like, you were on the fence, but because

00:56:35.780 you did that, sorry, straight to hell. 0.93

00:56:39.460 Yep. 0.99

00:56:40.460 Brutal.

00:56:41.580 Um.

00:56:41.800 But you can repent.

00:56:43.820 Of your treacherous misdeeds. 0.95

00:56:49.520 Treacherous. 0.87

00:56:49.980 Okay.

00:56:51.320 Go ahead.

00:56:51.900 You're finishing your point.

00:56:53.140 I was just saying that like, there doesn't like need to be just one purpose of you going

00:56:57.880 to the gym.

00:56:58.400 Oh, we got another one.

00:57:00.200 Wiley Coyote 5-0 donated $100.

00:57:03.700 Forgive them for they know not what they do.

00:57:06.200 It is finished.

00:57:07.660 Father, into your hands I commend my spirit were the last words Jesus spoke before he died

00:57:13.640 on the cross.

00:57:14.960 Also, 1 Corinthians verse 18.

00:57:17.940 Hey, Wiley Coyote, thank you for the TTS, man.

00:57:20.340 Appreciate it.

00:57:20.940 Thank you for, thank you guys for getting us the actual, uh, quote.

00:57:27.900 Oh.

00:57:29.500 Um.

00:57:30.260 If I ever stare at you, that typically means I'm waiting for you to talk.

00:57:33.640 Go ahead.

00:57:35.040 Um, but, like, she can work out and then also like post for her OnlyFans and get the bag. 1.00

00:57:45.200 But, like, that doesn't mean she's going there for OnlyFans.

00:57:48.440 That means she's going to the D&D and it's like a side note.

00:57:51.820 Okay.

00:57:53.280 Can you read this one, Maddie?

00:57:54.780 If it's not about being a 304, what is it then?

00:57:59.780 It's blank with more steps. 1.00

00:58:02.720 You are a fucking clown. 1.00

00:58:05.340 You're a fucking clown. 1.00

00:58:06.340 Do you want to, he's, he's shooting shots. 1.00

00:58:19.960 You got to respond, Maddie.

00:58:21.280 Uh, okay. 0.98

00:58:22.680 The thing is, is like anyone that openly hates on strangers, like you don't fucking know me 0.98

00:58:29.300 and you're like saying nasty things to me and you think that you're better than me. 0.98

00:58:33.540 Like, I think you're a bad person, so I don't really care what a nasty, mean person would 0.86

00:58:40.100 have to say about me.

00:58:41.260 Yeah, guys, you guys don't know her.

00:58:42.960 You haven't seen her underwater photography.

00:58:44.920 You don't know me.

00:58:45.760 I'm talented.

00:58:46.180 Her underwater videography.

00:58:48.700 Okay, so you're saying it's cool.

00:58:50.420 You're, you're saying like, it's okay to go to the gym and make OnlyFans content?

00:58:54.480 Yeah.

00:58:55.620 Because it's not, like, she's not going there to make content, but she's there.

00:59:01.540 There's some, why not post a story while there?

00:59:05.240 But like, so it sounds like you're saying that if a girl wanted to go to the gym and

00:59:10.080 do kind of like a semi-sexy video that she was going to later distribute on OF, no issue 0.95

00:59:16.120 there?

00:59:18.160 Okay.

00:59:18.680 You think that you-

00:59:19.100 No, no, no, no, no, hold on.

00:59:20.040 This is for her.

00:59:20.760 Go ahead.

00:59:22.820 Could you re-ask the question?

00:59:24.640 Well, you said that, you know, even if there is this ulterior purpose, like it's okay to

00:59:32.380 post it on OnlyFans, so is it, is it your view that it's, let's say you went into one

00:59:37.560 of these, you know, the, one of the classes, classrooms that they have at gyms where it's

00:59:44.440 like wood floors or whatever, where they'll do Pilates yoga.

00:59:47.440 And somebody goes in there when there's not a class, for example, and they're just, I

00:59:52.760 don't know, doing some semi, not nudity, but like semi-sexual stuff with the, with the

01:00:00.400 explicit purpose of posting it to OF.

01:00:03.600 My understanding is, based off of what you said, you're, that's cool, you're fine with

01:00:08.740 that.

01:00:08.820 Condoning it.

01:00:10.580 You support it.

01:00:14.120 Oh my, oops, sorry, I did not mean to-

01:00:17.040 Huh?

01:00:17.480 Whoops.

01:00:18.700 Oh, that was weird.

01:00:19.560 Ryan Holt donated $100.

01:00:22.920 Haha, please tell me those butterfly tats are fake. 1.00

01:00:26.480 You can't make this shit up long. 0.99

01:00:28.780 Such a stereotypical red flag tat. 1.00

01:00:31.580 Also a salute to the soldier.

01:00:33.600 Um, oh, he's, he's saluting.

01:00:38.260 Thank, thank, yo, Ryan Holt, thank you, man.

01:00:40.080 Do you want to say anything about the, he called out your butterfly tattoo?

01:00:43.240 Yeah.

01:00:44.540 Um, I've had these for years before they ever started trending.

01:00:49.280 Okay.

01:00:50.140 And-

01:00:50.520 Can you show it?

01:00:52.000 Oh, oh, wait.

01:00:53.480 Yeah, there you go.

01:00:54.260 Okay.

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01:01:34.500 Nice.

01:01:35.080 Thank you, man.

01:01:35.500 Appreciate it.

01:01:36.240 Thank you.

01:01:37.060 Thank you.

01:01:37.660 What about the butterfly tattoos?

01:01:39.820 Oh, I've just had them forever.

01:01:41.820 I don't care if things trend and come out and this and that.

01:01:44.720 It's just, you know.

01:01:46.080 I feel bad for the girls who had the sternum tattoos before they were cool. 1.00

01:01:50.480 Yeah.

01:01:50.800 And then everybody got them because they're basically, I mean, I was never a fan of, no offense to any girls here who might have that tattoo.

01:01:57.240 I was never really a fan of them to begin with, but I hated them from the get-go.

01:02:01.800 So I'm a trendsetter in that regard.

01:02:03.420 But they're kind of the tramp stamp of the 2010s.

01:02:08.820 They started getting popular around like 2015, maybe.

01:02:14.080 Okay.

01:02:16.080 Yeah.

01:02:18.480 I'm not a fan of the modern tramp stamp, the sternum tattoo.

01:02:24.600 Yeah.

01:02:25.100 I don't know.

01:02:25.640 Red flag.

01:02:26.160 Huge red flag.

01:02:26.920 Anybody here got one?

01:02:28.040 Who's got a sternum tattoo?

01:02:29.140 Don't be shy.

01:02:30.660 Anybody?

01:02:33.980 It's going to be a long show, boys.

01:02:35.360 All right.

01:02:36.720 Back to her.

01:02:37.520 No.

01:02:37.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:38.260 So you were saying that you think it's okay.

01:02:41.180 Why do you think that's okay?

01:02:42.600 Like Joey Swole said, he doesn't think that's the appropriate place to do it.

01:02:46.540 He has no issue with OnlyFans girls making their content, doing whatever they want to do to make money. 0.99

01:02:50.560 So why is it okay for her to do that in a public gym? 1.00

01:02:53.160 Why do you support that?

01:02:54.980 I can't wait.

01:02:55.600 I'm saying that it's okay to take a story or like take like a video, like a TikTok.

01:03:05.440 Because it's a TikTok.

01:03:06.640 I'm not selling it on OnlyFans.

01:03:07.940 I think you're kind of walking back your previous stated position.

01:03:14.000 Like you previously, I don't remember it verbatim, but it was pretty clear like from what you said that you said,

01:03:20.480 it's okay if you're doing something for OF at the gym, you know, if it's sexual or whatever.

01:03:26.380 Okay.

01:03:26.620 What I'm saying is, let's say I'm going to the gym.

01:03:29.080 If I go to the gym and I want to post a story so it has benefits for my OnlyFans also, then I don't see a problem in that.

01:03:40.960 But that in itself is the problem.

01:03:43.520 Why is the gym the place to do that?

01:03:45.640 Why are you using the gym to promote your OnlyFans or to you?

01:03:49.360 Do you guys also have a problem with girls that work out in sports bras and spandex? 0.97

01:03:53.560 I got a problem with girls who work out and use it as a Trojan horse to sell sex, period. 1.00

01:03:59.400 Because you know what you're doing. 0.64

01:04:01.460 It's not about the workout itself.

01:04:02.860 Of course, you can say, yes, I'm working out.

01:04:04.680 But the reality is, as I said, you're doing it for attention.

01:04:07.900 It's not for the genuine workout.

01:04:09.300 Because if you were really working out to work out, you don't need to record yourself doing it.

01:04:13.100 I mean, I work out to work out, and I also use it for my job.

01:04:16.800 Like it doesn't have to just be one thing.

01:04:19.360 That was what I was trying to say.

01:04:20.900 I do think that there's probably, just to answer your question directly,

01:04:24.760 I do think that there's probably appropriate gym attire.

01:04:28.020 And I think, you know, there's a decent amount of leeway as far as what I would deem as acceptable to wear in a gym.

01:04:35.860 I mean, the most obvious example, I think this got a bit of attention recently.

01:04:42.540 I don't know if Nick's able to find it. 0.98

01:04:45.080 There's a girl basically wearing like, her ass was essentially hanging out of her, 1.00

01:04:52.360 it was almost like approaching a bikini. 0.99

01:04:54.760 Would you agree that wearing a bikini at the gym, doing a workout, would be inappropriate to wear?

01:05:06.080 Honestly, yeah.

01:05:07.400 I think like spandex, because that's not meant for working out.

01:05:10.880 You know what I mean?

01:05:11.480 No, but let's say it was the appropriate fabric.

01:05:15.180 No, I mean, I'm in like spandex shorts.

01:05:16.760 They're wearing the same shape as essentially a bikini.

01:05:20.460 I'm saying like booty shorts, sports bra, meant for working out, that's gym attire, right?

01:05:24.660 So that's fine. 0.85

01:05:25.480 So booty shorts where like the ass cheeks are hanging out. 1.00

01:05:28.560 Why do they have to hang out? 1.00

01:05:30.460 Do all these girls just have bad asses? 1.00

01:05:32.980 Fuck. 1.00

01:05:33.840 No, but it occurs to me that that might be a bit, maybe a bit much. 1.00

01:05:40.620 A bikini is meant for swimming, you know what I mean? 0.70

01:05:43.500 Right, but I'm saying like an outfit that approached the amount of revealingness, 0.96

01:05:54.640 that's not a fucking word, that was close to as revealing as a bikini. 0.91

01:06:01.500 Would that be appropriate to wear at the gym? 0.99

01:06:05.220 Can I see it?

01:06:07.360 Nick, were you able to find anything?

01:06:09.480 It's kind of tough to find.

01:06:11.100 It doesn't matter.

01:06:12.040 Just picture like booty shorts, but they're way too small.

01:06:15.320 I don't want to linger too long on this.

01:06:16.840 So just your reaction to Joey Swole.

01:06:19.200 I agree with Joey Swole.

01:06:21.540 And I think what we're discussing here and like why we're going back and forth is we're

01:06:26.380 talking more about what is sacred.

01:06:29.220 Like one person views sexuality as sacred and another one doesn't view it as sacred.

01:06:34.820 So I think that's what we're debating.

01:06:36.300 And I agree with what Joey says.

01:06:40.460 I think it's not appropriate in a public setting.

01:06:43.940 Okay.

01:06:44.380 Going around the table, just you, you, you, you, and you.

01:06:47.900 I kind of agree with both sides.

01:06:50.520 I'm kind of neutral.

01:06:51.640 I think they both make very valid points.

01:06:54.680 Oh, um, I would agree with what's the name?

01:07:00.260 Joey, Joey, Joey.

01:07:01.540 I would agree with Joey, Joey, just because it's in a public setting.

01:07:06.880 Um, I'm neutral too.

01:07:08.680 I just feel like the gym is like, like, I feel like personally when I get in there, like

01:07:13.460 it's my place.

01:07:14.240 Like, I don't really want to talk to anyone else.

01:07:16.200 Like, don't, no one talked to me.

01:07:17.700 So like, I don't know.

01:07:19.300 I think both points are very valid.

01:07:22.380 Yeah.

01:07:22.880 I, I do agree with, with Joey.

01:07:25.580 I mean, I think that kind of stuff, I think it should be like more in a private setting.

01:07:31.100 I think in like a public place.

01:07:33.140 Now I do want to say though, not everybody would even know that what you were doing was

01:07:37.020 sexual at all.

01:07:38.060 They could just be thinking you're squatting.

01:07:40.020 Right.

01:07:40.500 But because you had someone viewed it as sexual.

01:07:43.200 Yeah.

01:07:44.000 If somebody like saw the video, then they would know what you're doing by your facial

01:07:48.100 expressions and the angle where it's like, but you can see like I made a face for how

01:07:52.980 many seconds and the rest of the time my face is normal.

01:07:55.760 So like, why are you going to sexualize a whole exercise based off like two seconds?

01:08:00.980 Yeah.

01:08:01.460 I think maybe because a guy like saw your phone there.

01:08:04.440 Yeah.

01:08:04.900 And then maybe it was like, oh, she's making content.

01:08:07.360 I'm tired of seeing this kind of stuff.

01:08:08.960 And then he figured out that it was sexual.

01:08:11.460 Yeah.

01:08:11.900 I would have to agree with, sorry, what was your name?

01:08:14.240 Megan.

01:08:14.700 Megan.

01:08:15.040 I have to agree with you.

01:08:15.840 That's my sister's name.

01:08:17.020 Anyway, I'd have to agree with you.

01:08:19.280 I think for me, sex is very sacred.

01:08:21.260 And I think like bringing it into a gym is just not the time and place.

01:08:26.560 I think that should be in the bedroom only.

01:08:28.600 Doc Venabilly is donated $100.

01:08:31.740 My teenage kids go to the gym with me.

01:08:34.400 If you behave like that in front of them, I will actively work to get you banned from our

01:08:39.100 gym.

01:08:39.340 Public modesty is important for a healthy society.

01:08:43.920 You couldn't get me banned from your gym for stretching.

01:08:47.520 So try again.

01:08:51.040 What'd I miss?

01:08:52.500 Have you guys just been sitting here in silence since I left?

01:08:55.140 No, we were all talking.

01:08:56.640 She went, I went.

01:08:57.620 I was saying I agree.

01:09:00.480 She's neutral.

01:09:01.920 Okay.

01:09:02.600 Well, moving on, we do have a chat here from our good friend.

01:09:06.340 Peter Stines.

01:09:07.200 Cost Tines donated $107.

01:09:11.780 Ladies and men, I have 14 and 12-year-old daughters.

01:09:16.800 What is the best information or advice you can provide a 50-year-old guy who has been out

01:09:21.760 of the market for a long time as it relates to dating?

01:09:24.700 You got anything on this queue?

01:09:30.920 Is he singing?

01:09:32.440 Yeah, I think he's out of the dating game.

01:09:35.320 And he wants to get back in.

01:09:36.320 But he says he's what, 50?

01:09:38.080 What did he say?

01:09:38.760 This is 50.

01:09:39.680 50.

01:09:40.960 Two kids.

01:09:41.960 Well, the kids, I don't think, are super related to the question at hand.

01:09:46.060 Anything, Q?

01:09:46.540 Yeah, I would say for the most part, he ain't missing much in the modern dating era.

01:09:52.400 It's a lot of chaos amongst women and what they feel they can do and how they feel men 1.00

01:09:58.080 need to behave and the lack of accountability and all of those things.

01:10:02.480 So if he really wants to get back out on the dating market, I would suggest he find somebody

01:10:05.760 more around his age just to settle down who would probably be more likely to have the

01:10:10.560 same values and the same belief set and who wants to grow old together, who's in the

01:10:15.360 same head space.

01:10:16.540 Otherwise, he'll die early.

01:10:20.420 Because of the stress?

01:10:21.580 Because of the stress that we're doing.

01:10:23.680 I was like, whoa.

01:10:26.160 Actually, related to what you said, I read recently something like a 19-year-old woman today, I

01:10:33.520 don't know if it's 19 or 21, a 19-year-old woman today is going to have a higher body count 1.00

01:10:38.420 than a woman who's 50.

01:10:40.660 I saw that.

01:10:41.680 I don't know if that's the exact, the age is.

01:10:44.380 But so you've got your average 19-year-old has had more sexual partners than a 50-year-old

01:10:51.060 today.

01:10:52.340 Yeah.

01:10:52.620 I mean...

01:10:53.100 Something like that.

01:10:53.560 Yeah.

01:10:53.760 Honestly, at first, I was skeptical.

01:10:56.920 Sadia had said it.

01:10:58.160 Me and Sadia had a little bit of a falling out.

01:10:59.980 We used to follow each other.

01:11:00.820 Okay.

01:11:01.020 But when I thought about it, I was like, honestly, yes, it's likely possible.

01:11:05.760 Because for one, the body count did increase for the average woman in the past 20 years.

01:11:11.620 The body count has increased.

01:11:13.000 So that's true.

01:11:13.900 And then the second thing is, a lot of these women, due to feminism, feel a lot more sexually 1.00

01:11:18.280 liberated.

01:11:19.280 They have less shame.

01:11:20.760 Their moral compasses are not what they used to be.

01:11:23.380 They're a lot less selective.

01:11:25.360 Social media makes access to men who will run through them, use them, and abuse them sexually

01:11:30.020 a lot more prevalent.

01:11:31.880 So yes, it's honestly a valid point.

01:11:34.700 It's a valid take.

01:11:35.460 I do believe that the body count for a 19-year-old today would probably be higher than the body count

01:11:39.740 of a 50-year-old woman.

01:11:41.240 Speaking of that, I'd like to go around the table on this.

01:11:43.380 So I'm not asking you guys yet for your body counts, but of your friend group, like if

01:11:50.180 you had to, because I mean, you know, we have a 30-year-old, a 25-year-old, but you've

01:11:56.840 got 21, 21, 21, 22, 19, and then 18, she stepped away to go to the bathroom. 0.96

01:12:03.060 Of like your friend group, girls you know, what is, what do you think the average body 1.00

01:12:11.100 count of your friends is?

01:12:13.380 Um, a few of my friends have been with their partner since high school, so they bring the

01:12:20.600 average way down, but I would say probably around like 14.

01:12:25.720 Okay, at 21?

01:12:27.260 Yeah.

01:12:27.640 Um, they're all older.

01:12:28.900 Most of my friends are like 29.

01:12:31.280 Oh, well I'm talking, well okay, what about you?

01:12:34.300 Do you, do you, first off, do you have girlfriends around your age?

01:12:37.360 Yeah.

01:12:37.840 Okay, what, what would you say like their body count is probably?

01:12:41.280 I think like around, like around 14.

01:12:46.040 Okay.

01:12:46.360 This is tricky, because I feel like I'm like in between friends right now, like I recently

01:12:52.580 went through some things where I had to like let go of people, so.

01:12:57.120 Okay, so tell us like your new friends and your D-Gen friends, go ahead. 1.00

01:13:00.760 Old friends, probably like eight, I'm guessing.

01:13:06.100 Yeah.

01:13:07.240 Okay.

01:13:09.120 Um.

01:13:10.000 You live in Isla Vista, right?

01:13:11.440 Yeah.

01:13:12.860 UCSB, number one party school, huge party scene in Ivy, what's your herd?

01:13:17.380 For like average, I would say maybe like five or six.

01:13:23.120 Okay, actually I want to add one thing to this question, um, what's the highest that you've

01:13:30.740 heard from a girl?

01:13:32.080 From a girl? 0.97

01:13:32.840 Yeah.

01:13:33.640 That you know?

01:13:35.200 Ooh.

01:13:37.860 Like 40.

01:13:39.020 40?

01:13:39.580 Here, let's actually come back around starting again with you on this.

01:13:44.380 Ooh.

01:13:46.320 Probably like, honestly girls not as high as guys, like maybe 30.

01:13:53.740 That's the highest?

01:13:54.580 Yeah, and guys always in the hundreds, ran through.

01:13:58.240 Okay, all right, what about you?

01:14:00.880 Um, I think the highest I've heard is 50.

01:14:05.300 Okay.

01:14:06.800 Probably like 10.

01:14:08.320 Okay.

01:14:09.320 And you said 40?

01:14:10.320 I said 40, like the highest I've ever heard.

01:14:12.780 From a girl? 0.97

01:14:13.360 Yeah.

01:14:13.640 That you know, personally?

01:14:15.220 Not that I'm friends with anymore.

01:14:16.500 Well, you don't have to be friends, just like acquaintance, whatever.

01:14:19.360 Yeah.

01:14:19.880 Okay, what's the next highest?

01:14:22.560 What do you mean?

01:14:23.520 So like the second highest?

01:14:25.400 Oh, um, 20.

01:14:28.420 20, okay.

01:14:29.660 Um, I haven't been told what's like the highest from my friends.

01:14:34.400 They haven't told me.

01:14:35.140 Wait, hold on.

01:14:36.660 Uh, yeah, they haven't told you?

01:14:39.180 They haven't told me.

01:14:40.020 Can I have you tilt your microphone down a little bit?

01:14:41.800 Yeah.

01:14:42.060 Yeah.

01:14:42.220 Uh, maybe a little less.

01:14:45.880 Yeah.

01:14:46.840 That you don't talk about, you don't talk shop with any of your girls?

01:14:50.040 No, I do.

01:14:50.420 Um, but she's never told me how many.

01:14:53.680 You have one singular.

01:14:55.060 Come on.

01:14:55.460 Well, I've known her since.

01:14:56.720 Yeah.

01:14:57.040 I've known her since, um, elementary.

01:14:58.980 But like, what about, okay, you used to work with girls in the club, right?

01:15:01.560 You used to strip.

01:15:02.440 Well, I still do.

01:15:03.180 I still do, yeah.

01:15:04.160 You, y'all, no sideboard.

01:15:06.300 You guys don't.

01:15:06.780 No, they don't, they don't tell me.

01:15:08.180 They don't tell me.

01:15:08.620 You're not, you don't have any like that.

01:15:09.560 But I'm pretty sure it's a lot, like, but they don't, I'm not really friends with the

01:15:13.060 girls in the clubs.

01:15:14.040 Yeah.

01:15:14.600 But like, you guys don't even talk about that sort of stuff.

01:15:17.600 Not really.

01:15:18.020 All right.

01:15:18.400 What about you?

01:15:19.200 Um, the highest probably is like 20.

01:15:21.820 20.

01:15:22.340 Okay.

01:15:23.180 I had a friend.

01:15:25.200 I'm not friends anymore, but she was in the thirties.

01:15:28.400 Okay.

01:15:30.220 Q, what about you?

01:15:31.060 What's the highest body count you've heard from a girl? 1.00

01:15:32.960 From a girl? 0.97

01:15:33.600 Yeah.

01:15:33.740 From a girl? 1.00

01:15:37.180 Um, shit. 1.00

01:15:39.800 Probably about 25. 1.00

01:15:41.480 Really?

01:15:42.340 Yeah.

01:15:42.760 Probably about 20.

01:15:43.840 About 20.

01:15:44.740 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:46.140 Women don't tell me their body counts. 1.00

01:15:47.640 Yeah.

01:15:47.860 Some girls are proud of it? 1.00

01:15:48.820 I'm going to say this.

01:15:50.020 So I've heard, and this is before I started my show, because I've heard some outrageous body 0.93

01:15:53.560 counts on this show.

01:15:56.300 I, this was a 19 year old girl.

01:15:59.420 Actually, she might have been 18.

01:16:00.420 She had a body count over a hundred at 18. 0.52

01:16:04.360 Oh, poor thing.

01:16:05.200 Yeah.

01:16:06.540 And, uh, she, that was on her.

01:16:08.780 That was on her.

01:16:10.260 Uh, but, uh.

01:16:11.640 Saying poor thing for her future partners. 1.00

01:16:13.580 Yeah, poor, poor them, right?

01:16:15.940 Poor the future partners, yeah.

01:16:16.980 Poor them.

01:16:17.700 Uh, okay, so, and I'm trying to think, because I mean, I've heard, I, you know, I'm from Santa

01:16:24.260 Barbara.

01:16:24.600 So for those watching who aren't familiar with the area, we have UCSB here.

01:16:29.540 We have Santa Barbara City College.

01:16:30.680 UCSB is frequently ranked the number one party school in the United States.

01:16:35.220 We have the Isla Vista area, which is basically a square mile where you have, like, 20, 30,000

01:16:41.600 students crammed into an area less, uh, the size, less of a, less than the size of a square mile.

01:16:47.440 Sorry.

01:16:48.680 And, uh, you know, bunch of parties, et cetera.

01:16:51.860 And, uh, a lot of drinking, drugs, et cetera.

01:16:58.060 Some girls be putting up 40 bodies their freshman, their first freshman semester or quarter, 1.00

01:17:04.240 depending which school you go to.

01:17:05.800 So, maybe putting up bodies.

01:17:10.800 So, to answer Pico Stein's thing, uh, I think you should move.

01:17:17.720 I think you should move because there's a lot of, uh, you know, inflation, if you know

01:17:23.800 what I mean, in the U.S.

01:17:25.380 So, you got to go to, you know, an Asian country or Latin, actually, I don't know, not Latin America.

01:17:31.820 Definitely not Latin America. 0.95

01:17:32.800 It's Asia. 0.90

01:17:34.140 Yeah, go to, uh, Asia.

01:17:35.300 I think, or you could go to the bingo hall here in America.

01:17:40.540 You know, you said you're 50.

01:17:41.680 That might be a little outside of your, you know, check out the bingo hall.

01:17:45.800 There's some lovely grannies over there. 0.94

01:17:50.860 Okay.

01:17:51.940 All right.

01:17:52.500 So, we're going to, oh, actually, before we get into the pre-show notes that some of you

01:17:55.820 guys provided, I like to start things off an hour and 15 minutes into the podcast.

01:18:03.020 Does anybody here disagree with anything that you've heard or seen on the podcast?

01:18:09.620 Some of you have maybe seen the podcast before, and I love to, I think a good jumping off point

01:18:16.860 is to hear from anybody who disagrees with anything.

01:18:19.360 Maybe you've seen a clip from Q here who's gone viral on the internet several times.

01:18:24.440 So, anybody disagree with anything, if you've seen, if you've seen anything?

01:18:28.960 I do.

01:18:30.020 Okay.

01:18:30.480 We'll start with you.

01:18:31.200 Go ahead.

01:18:32.100 I want to start off by saying I do agree with most of what you say.

01:18:35.620 Sure.

01:18:36.300 Sure.

01:18:36.520 Um, but I see a contradiction in something that you say.

01:18:42.240 Um, you mentioned you're not a fan of casual sex. 0.64

01:18:45.820 You don't partake in casual sex. 0.74

01:18:47.560 I think that's great.

01:18:49.280 Um, but you did also mention in another podcast, I don't remember which one, that you wouldn't 0.78

01:18:55.660 mind having sex on the first date. 0.54

01:18:57.840 Yep. 0.99

01:18:58.360 Now, in my view, having sex on the first date would be considered casual sex. 0.98

01:19:05.000 Maybe your definition is having...

01:19:07.420 Depends on the definition, right?

01:19:08.920 Yeah.

01:19:09.140 So, maybe yours is considered a hookup, right?

01:19:10.920 So, you don't plan to follow through.

01:19:12.500 You don't plan to maybe see that person again.

01:19:15.020 It's literally just a hookup.

01:19:16.840 Yeah.

01:19:17.140 But then some people can hook up multiple times, right?

01:19:19.460 Mm-hmm.

01:19:19.720 So, then I don't know what that is.

01:19:21.140 That's gray area, I suppose.

01:19:22.780 Um, but I think you do partake in casual sex.

01:19:26.620 If you are willing to do it on the first date, because you're not in a relationship.

01:19:31.680 My definition is casual sex means having sex with somebody that you're not in a committed

01:19:37.900 relationship with. 0.86

01:19:39.720 Sure.

01:19:40.320 Well, first off, I think it's certainly important to define exactly what casual sex is.

01:19:44.860 Yeah.

01:19:45.140 It's sort of a vague, nebulous term, and people can define that differently in the same way

01:19:50.100 that, for example, someone might, uh, might describe, I'm trying to think of a somewhat

01:19:56.560 similar example, uh, promiscuity.

01:19:59.800 Someone might define promiscuity as, you know, having a new sexual partner every week.

01:20:05.040 Someone might just define promiscuity as dressing, somewhat revealing.

01:20:09.160 Um, so, and I'm not even sure, and I could be wrong on this, but I typically, when my objections

01:20:16.600 really stem from promiscuity, is it possible that I replaced promiscuity with casual sex?

01:20:24.440 So, I'm not sure if I've actually ever used the term me being against casual sex, but I'll

01:20:29.940 take your word for it and I'll say I did use it.

01:20:31.880 Multiple times.

01:20:32.360 So, it's possible that I potentially used it erroneously, uh, but to, so I'm, I don't

01:20:39.240 have any objections to people having sex rather early on, and if that means having sex the

01:20:45.220 first time you're meeting someone, I don't object to that.

01:20:48.780 Where I perhaps differ on this is that if I have sex with somebody, I want to continue

01:20:55.040 seeing them.

01:20:55.820 So, if I choose to have sex with somebody, I have a genuine interest in continuing to see

01:21:00.680 them with the hope of it developing into a long-term relationship.

01:21:05.940 So, I don't want to have a one-night stand.

01:21:07.960 I don't want to have sex once or twice and then never see the girl again. 0.82

01:21:12.120 If I have sex with you, I want to keep seeing you. 0.68

01:21:14.600 I want there to be a continuity. 0.75

01:21:16.560 So, the only thing that differentiates it is your intention?

01:21:19.280 I think, yes, it would be intention because, for example, I've, I've gotten feedback from

01:21:23.740 people.

01:21:24.660 I got a message from somebody who, um, and I've heard from a couple people who've said this,

01:21:29.920 that their current spouse, their current long-term partner that they've been dating for years,

01:21:36.080 they're married, have kids, they're, tell me, oh yeah, you know, I had sex the first, we 0.72

01:21:41.840 had sex the first time meeting. 0.98

01:21:43.760 Uh, so. 0.95

01:21:45.500 Yeah, I don't have any issue with, with, you know, if you're gonna, you know, have sex with 0.99

01:21:51.140 somebody on the first date, that's totally your choice.

01:21:53.540 I think that's giving way too much to them for literally just sitting down and having a meal.

01:21:59.140 Quick question for you on that.

01:22:00.360 Who's giving too much to who?

01:22:02.920 I think the woman is giving way too much to the man. 1.00

01:22:06.000 Now, why is that?

01:22:07.700 Because we're the gatekeepers of sex.

01:22:10.020 Okay.

01:22:10.240 So you don't view sex as an equal value exchange.

01:22:14.240 You think men are getting, if it, despite both partners getting sex, you view that as

01:22:21.880 the man getting more than the woman.

01:22:25.300 Yeah.

01:22:25.700 Because I think once you have sex with the man, you, you're, I guess the chase, the value

01:22:34.020 of that woman gets a little bit depleted because I think once you give it to him, then it's

01:22:39.400 like, okay, now he's experienced it.

01:22:41.660 What's so, what's so special about you now?

01:22:45.520 I mean, I mean, obviously he can still find something special, but, but my point is, is

01:22:51.700 like, I think in the Bible, it says a woman, we are the gatekeepers of sex, right?

01:22:57.360 So I agree with that.

01:22:58.520 Yeah.

01:22:58.800 So what I'm saying is I think the woman is giving too much to the man on the first date 1.00

01:23:03.380 because, because he can just have sex with her and choose to not see her again. 0.53

01:23:07.340 Oh, that was easy. 0.99

01:23:08.200 On to the next.

01:23:09.700 Yes, that's true.

01:23:10.960 And, um, look, and I'm not saying I need to have sex on the first date.

01:23:16.860 Grid one motorsports donated $100.

01:23:19.940 Oh, wow.

01:23:20.420 Okay.

01:23:20.660 My wife of 18 years and I had sex after the first date, nothing casual about it. 1.00

01:23:26.060 There is a difference between casual sex and promiscuity and being a cum dumpster or village 1.00

01:23:31.600 bicycle. 1.00

01:23:32.040 Oh, okay.

01:23:33.380 So grid one motorsports.

01:23:34.800 Thank you, grid one.

01:23:35.920 That's a good point.

01:23:36.720 You make, look at this exhibit a grid one motorsports sex on the first night.

01:23:42.340 He's married.

01:23:43.000 He's kids.

01:23:44.160 He's rich.

01:23:45.320 I think it worked out for him.

01:23:46.480 And a giga chad.

01:23:47.680 I think it worked out for everybody though.

01:23:49.500 Sure.

01:23:49.700 But I think you can have, I mean, certainly look on, from the woman's perspective, if you're

01:24:00.060 choosing to have sex with a guy and you know, there's no prospects of a long-term relationship,

01:24:06.040 then part of that falls on the woman.

01:24:08.620 And also you can kind of, you know, talk to the guy, get a sense of where he's at. 0.68

01:24:16.580 You can have this conversation before you have sex with him. 0.57

01:24:19.620 Now, look, I'm not saying that you need to have sex with a guy on the first date.

01:24:22.780 And if, if you want to wait, that's certainly your prerogative.

01:24:25.600 Um, but for example, like here's something very simple for women to do to mitigate or 1.00

01:24:32.800 reduce the risk.

01:24:34.040 Even if you are so inclined to sleep with a guy on the first date, uh, to, to reduce the

01:24:38.500 risk that he's just trying to hit it. 0.99

01:24:40.140 So first off, if you're traveling, don't fuck men when you're traveling because well, obviously 0.99

01:24:45.700 just logistically speaking, if he lives in fucking Germany and you meet in the Netherlands 1.00

01:24:52.500 and you're leaving in two weeks, he's leaving tomorrow. 0.98

01:24:55.140 There's no long-term prospects there. 1.00

01:24:56.920 A lot of women be traveling and just fucking dudes. 1.00

01:24:59.980 So, but it's not clear to me if women are going traveling and fucking dudes and having 1.00

01:25:05.920 any expectation of there being a long-term relationship. 1.00

01:25:08.540 Don't fuck dude. 1.00

01:25:09.720 Don't go, well, okay, let me, don't go to bars and clubs period. 1.00

01:25:13.860 But if you're so inclined, certainly don't sleep with men that you meet out while intoxicated

01:25:18.640 while either he's intoxicated, you're intoxicated or both.

01:25:22.500 Any sort of sex that occurs with alcohol involved is greatly diminishes the chance that that

01:25:29.140 could lead, not necessarily it could, you know, you could still end up in a relationship with

01:25:32.940 this guy, but greater likelihood that that's going to be, end up being a casual encounter.

01:25:37.340 Uh, so there shouldn't be alcohol involved, preferably, preferably it should, you shouldn't meet contextually in a party type

01:25:44.720 environment, bar club, et cetera.

01:25:46.500 Um, if he's from out of town, if he's not tied to your geographic region, it's probably not a good 0.98

01:25:53.840 idea to just fuck the dude because, uh, you know, it's low likelihood that I think one of the big 0.97

01:26:01.200 things to help a relationship proceed is convenience. 0.99

01:26:05.560 If you guys live close, close, I think that makes things a lot easier, romantically speaking.

01:26:12.140 Um, so, so wouldn't you say that if you had a first date with, you had a first date, you guys had sex.

01:26:20.980 Okay. 0.79

01:26:21.620 Yeah.

01:26:21.940 But then she doesn't see you again.

01:26:24.580 Wouldn't that just be a spruced up hookup, but it just included a meal?

01:26:29.040 Huh, that's funny that you'd think I'd get a meal for her, but wait, what?

01:26:34.880 Or whatever you guys did.

01:26:36.460 I don't know.

01:26:36.960 I'm kidding.

01:26:37.320 But it had a happy ending. 1.00

01:26:38.820 Wait, so you're saying we fuck, okay, we fuck, but she doesn't want to see me? 1.00

01:26:41.540 Okay. 1.00

01:26:42.100 That's an L for her. 0.73

01:26:44.240 That's a major L for her.

01:26:46.300 She doesn't want to see me again.

01:26:48.900 Like, I didn't put it down right?

01:26:50.200 Is that what you mean?

01:26:50.640 I agree with you, but.

01:26:52.980 No, sometimes these girls, like, even if you put it down right, they, they fur the streets. 1.00

01:26:59.040 Yeah, but, yeah, but I look at it more from a, I mean, there's a lot of neurochemistry

01:27:03.200 at play.

01:27:03.700 I mean, a lot of times we forget how the, how the human brain functions.

01:27:07.260 This, at the end of the day, it has the ultimate say, it's in control.

01:27:10.160 So if you put it down and she's releasing oxytocin, she's coming back.

01:27:13.920 She's going to, she's going to be thinking about you.

01:27:15.440 Yeah, she'll probably come back.

01:27:16.540 Yeah, she'll come back.

01:27:16.900 I'm saying most guys though.

01:27:18.380 I would say like women might be calling back, but the men might just ghost. 0.95

01:27:21.920 But on, on the same token, women typically don't orgasm from having sex with a guy that 0.99

01:27:26.740 they don't know. 0.86

01:27:27.400 So the more you get to know a guy, the more you date a guy, the more you got, the more 0.89

01:27:30.640 time you guys have spent together, the more sex you have, the more likely you are to orgasm

01:27:34.420 and that creates deeper attachment.

01:27:36.360 But I wanted to, um, um, you know, what you said about his intention.

01:27:42.160 Intention matters because intention is objective.

01:27:44.340 I can do the same thing.

01:27:45.980 Normally it comes down to how attracted I am to the woman.

01:27:49.040 If I find the woman extremely attractive, whether we have sex on the first night doesn't matter.

01:27:53.600 I'm attracted to her.

01:27:54.560 So I want to continue to see her over and over.

01:27:56.600 And essentially that's just going to make me want to be with her, especially if she has

01:27:59.860 a personality that is conducive to a healthy relationship and it aligns with who I am.

01:28:04.160 So the common dating pattern is we sleep together before we get in a relationship in most cases

01:28:10.680 because chastity and women being virgins is long gone. 0.60

01:28:15.240 So a lot of men don't want to wait to have sex with a woman who didn't wait to have sex 0.97

01:28:19.060 with the guy before her.

01:28:20.460 So, um, you know, it's, it's essentially a trial run.

01:28:24.860 Um, do we like each other?

01:28:26.660 Are our bodies, you know, sexually compatible in a sense? 0.99

01:28:30.040 Like, do I enjoy having sex with you? 0.99

01:28:32.420 Is there something I can gauge from having sex with you? 0.99

01:28:34.440 It's just acting on attraction. 0.73

01:28:35.840 That's basically what it boils down to.

01:28:37.960 That's all it is.

01:28:39.140 So there's no way you love this woman on the first date. 0.99

01:28:41.600 I mean, that's purely lustful, right?

01:28:43.020 If you're having sex on the first, on the first date, it is, it is, it is lustful, but

01:28:47.920 at the same time, there's no guarantee that you're not going to not see each other

01:28:51.980 again either.

01:28:53.480 Yeah.

01:28:53.760 And I think there's, everybody should have their own timeline.

01:28:57.260 My point is, it's like, you can go on a million first dates and have, you know, sex with every

01:29:02.360 single guy on the first date.

01:29:03.940 And I think if, if it also depends on what the guy wants and the woman, if a guy wants

01:29:08.820 and a woman, somebody who is a virgin, which I know Brian mentioned, the closer you are to

01:29:13.160 a virgin, but like the better, right? 0.98

01:29:16.880 I mean, as somebody who would be a virgin, I don't think she would have sex with you on 0.98

01:29:21.200 the first date, unless you were just like super duper special.

01:29:24.960 Um, because more than likely she's had that opportunity many times and isn't just going

01:29:29.940 to randomly have sex with you on the first date.

01:29:32.160 She's probably going to wait and she's, she, because she values herself and because she 0.96

01:29:36.400 knows, okay, if you want to continue to see me, then see me, I'm going to hold on to sex 0.83

01:29:40.480 until we're ready. 0.88

01:29:42.300 Yeah.

01:29:42.380 And that's fine.

01:29:42.900 Look, and then I certainly realize if she's a virgin, not a born again, virgin, uh, that,

01:29:49.860 uh, well, I suppose even, yes, but you know, they, you can be born again, but it doesn't

01:29:56.560 erase your past.

01:29:57.780 Um, I'm not, yeah, I certainly probably am not going in with the expectation that a virgin

01:30:04.480 is going to want to have sex on the first date, but, um, you'd probably question if she 1.00

01:30:08.620 really is one.

01:30:09.160 Uh, not, I mean, not, I don't know if I would, I might question, I might question a little

01:30:17.840 bit, but I don't know. 0.93

01:30:20.380 Have I, I don't think I've, I've been with a, oh shit, I don't want to reveal my body. 0.86

01:30:25.460 Have you ever been with somebody? 0.99

01:30:26.500 She says she's a virgin, but then you look at her and you're like, I don't know, based

01:30:30.240 off the conversation, you're like, I think you're, I think you're lying.

01:30:35.540 Uh, I don't think I've had a girl lie about being a virgin, but I've, I've dated a few.

01:30:40.660 Uh, I'll just say that.

01:30:42.380 Yeah.

01:30:42.740 Typically sex does not occur on the first date in that situation.

01:30:45.780 Okay.

01:30:46.600 But it's also not like necessarily a six month thing either.

01:30:51.940 Right.

01:30:52.500 It can happen.

01:30:53.360 Yeah.

01:30:54.820 Let's just say between three to 10 dates.

01:30:59.180 Typically.

01:31:00.680 Okay.

01:31:01.240 How about a week and a half? 0.99

01:31:02.400 I'm revealing too many fucking details. 0.98

01:31:04.280 Okay. 0.99

01:31:04.560 How about a week and a half?

01:31:05.880 Week and a half?

01:31:06.700 A week and a half.

01:31:07.500 My last girlfriend was a virgin. 0.97

01:31:09.160 She was 22. 0.79

01:31:10.400 Took her about a week and a half before we had sex.

01:31:13.260 No pressure from me, but that's how attractive she was to me.

01:31:17.860 Good for you.

01:31:19.900 Congrats, buddy.

01:31:21.620 Um, so.

01:31:23.360 So, wait.

01:31:24.240 So, okay.

01:31:25.840 Go.

01:31:26.300 So.

01:31:28.140 Grid One Motorsports donated $100.

01:31:31.620 Yeah.

01:31:31.900 This is why it is important to date with intent and not just hook up.

01:31:36.680 Men and women have gotten far too casual and callous in the dating pool, and that needs to change.

01:31:43.000 The patriarchy stands ready.

01:31:45.880 Yo, Grid One Motorsports, thank you.

01:31:47.600 I agree with you.

01:31:48.920 Really, to answer your question, though, is for, I think your initial question was sort of a definitional one.

01:31:57.180 How do we define casual sex?

01:31:58.400 Yeah, I guess, I guess I was trying to get, like, the actual definition, because I think we just have different ones, and I think that's okay.

01:32:03.540 Yeah.

01:32:03.720 Um, but that would be, that's kind of where I maybe felt a contradiction.

01:32:08.260 Sure.

01:32:08.620 Because you said you didn't believe in casual sex, but yeah. 0.82

01:32:10.980 Yeah, I mean, I'm, I think you can sleep with someone relatively quickly, but also not be promiscuous.

01:32:17.460 So, if you have a good read on the person, and you, you yourself, as an individual, for, if you're a woman, you want a long-term relationship, you've done a bit of an assessment on the guy. 0.99

01:32:31.200 Okay, is this guy a fuck boy, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

01:32:33.540 Look, sometimes you get bamboozled. 1.00

01:32:35.600 Women will get bamboozled. 1.00

01:32:36.700 The guy will say he wants something long-term.

01:32:39.300 It was all, it was all, he was selling you the dream. 0.99

01:32:42.560 It was bullshit, uh, but if the guy seems genuine with his intentions, and also there's this whole trope of, well, if you sleep with the guy too quick, he's not going to respect you, and what otherwise would have turned into a long-term monogamous relationship, uh, had you waited a bit longer, oh, now he just ghosted you after he fucked you once. 0.99

01:33:05.120 No, the reality is, is that it doesn't, it doesn't occur to me that if you make a guy wait, that's going to guarantee you a long-term relationship with this guy. 0.99

01:33:17.120 And if the guy, let's say you, let's say, okay, same guy, and in two separate universes, right, in one universe, you sleep with him on the first date, in another universe, you sleep with him on the third, in another universe, you sleep with him on the fifth date, whatever.

01:33:30.700 Um, it's plausible that regardless of which decision you choose, you would ultimately still end up in a long-term relationship with him.

01:33:40.780 So.

01:33:41.940 I can attest to that. 0.96

01:33:43.200 Okay, so I actually did have sex with my now husband. 0.95

01:33:47.080 Oh. 0.93

01:33:47.660 Very early on.

01:33:48.620 Oh.

01:33:48.940 No, no, no, no.

01:33:49.760 Oh.

01:33:50.440 I'm not, I'm not saying.

01:33:51.980 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:52.640 I don't think you're against it necessarily.

01:33:54.100 No, I'm not saying that I'm against it.

01:33:55.920 I was trying to find the definition.

01:33:57.900 I'm not saying I was against it.

01:33:59.020 How early?

01:33:59.360 Um, I, but I would say generally speaking, casual sex is not good, generally speaking.

01:34:06.440 However, let me make this very clear.

01:34:08.800 I don't, I wouldn't consider it casual sex because we knew each other for a very, very, very long time.

01:34:15.280 Wait, how, how soon?

01:34:18.540 Because you said pretty early, early on.

01:34:20.880 Um, the third date.

01:34:26.000 Yeah, that's fine.

01:34:26.880 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:34:28.180 In his car.

01:34:30.240 Not the ideal.

01:34:31.800 You didn't ask for that.

01:34:32.920 My bad.

01:34:33.720 Not the ideal venue.

01:34:34.720 Not the ideal venue.

01:34:36.260 What, there wasn't a bed available?

01:34:37.020 It was hot and steamy.

01:34:38.700 In a car?

01:34:39.820 Yeah.

01:34:40.640 Mercedes.

01:34:43.000 Hmm.

01:34:43.240 Okay, cool.

01:34:44.400 Move on.

01:34:46.160 I don't know. 0.70

01:34:46.500 I'm not, what do you guys think about car sex?

01:34:48.180 I'm not a fan.

01:34:49.520 Honestly.

01:34:50.020 Just give me a bed.

01:34:51.520 It's about the vibe, honestly. 0.99

01:34:53.180 I had car sex like last week and it was so nice. 0.93

01:34:57.620 So that was your last time? 0.94

01:34:58.720 Angle because I drove a truck and he didn't have a car.

01:35:02.460 So anyways.

01:35:04.340 What?

01:35:04.500 Is this the guy who, wait.

01:35:05.660 It was, yeah.

01:35:06.860 Your guy doesn't have a car?

01:35:08.260 But for some reason.

01:35:08.940 Is he like a bike guy?

01:35:10.280 Like he bikes places? 0.99

01:35:11.940 Like saving the environment type shit? 0.99

01:35:13.740 It's an Uber situation. 0.99

01:35:16.040 Okay.

01:35:16.580 All right. 0.98

01:35:17.220 I'm traumatized by car sex because I think I told you what happened when I had car sex. 0.96

01:35:22.200 How I got stuck. 0.96

01:35:23.300 Oh.

01:35:23.600 I got stranded.

01:35:24.060 You want to tell us a story real quick?

01:35:25.340 Yeah.

01:35:26.060 I'll tell y'all a story. 0.98

01:35:27.520 I had car sex with the girl that I was seeing. 0.98

01:35:30.700 We was at a family event. 0.98

01:35:32.240 It was around Christmas time. 0.97

01:35:33.340 She came to Christmas with my family and she wanted to have sex, but we couldn't have sex 1.00

01:35:38.220 because it was a house full of people. 0.98

01:35:39.560 So she had texted me next to me like, I'm horny. 0.67

01:35:42.160 I was like, okay.

01:35:43.340 So I had to tell everybody like, listen, we about to run to the store.

01:35:46.360 I'm in South Carolina in the middle of nowhere.

01:35:48.580 So I'm in the back country, country roads.

01:35:50.940 So I try to find somewhere to pull over. 1.00

01:35:52.880 My dumb ass goes on a dirt road after it just rained, hella mud puddles. 1.00

01:35:56.780 And my immediate thought was we might get fucking bogged down in the mud. 1.00

01:36:01.880 So drove on the back road, tried to back out after we did what we did, got bogged down for 0.96

01:36:08.320 four hours.

01:36:09.560 In the mud.

01:36:10.500 Called 911.

01:36:11.820 911 said tow truck, they couldn't send a dispatcher out because I was too far in the

01:36:17.400 boonies.

01:36:18.220 And the tow truck company was like, we don't have any trucks in the area.

01:36:21.640 So I was stuck trying to get my car out the mud, doing everything I could.

01:36:27.380 Scariest, scariest, most anxious moment of my life. 0.57

01:36:31.600 I'm like, yo, how the fuck we going to get out? 0.76

01:36:33.320 And then lo and behold, as I'm walking back to my car from the street, because I was trying 0.53

01:36:38.680 to find a signal, I didn't even have service trying to find a signal. 0.99

01:36:41.560 There was a shadow coming towards my car and I thought I was seeing shit. 0.99

01:36:45.840 And it was a white guy with a shotgun. 0.99

01:36:48.340 And I was and I saw a sign that said private property.

01:36:52.580 And he was like, what are you doing back here? 0.99

01:36:55.340 And I was like, oh, shit. 0.99

01:36:58.120 I'm like, sir, we stuck. 0.99

01:37:00.420 Can you can you help us?

01:37:01.680 You know, I didn't tell him what we was doing, but luckily he has some he has something that

01:37:06.620 could pull us out.

01:37:07.380 And that's how I got out after about five hours.

01:37:09.760 So scary.

01:37:10.900 So I'm traumatized by car sex. 0.79

01:37:12.680 I don't have car sex anymore because of that. 0.91

01:37:14.620 Yeah, I think when it comes to car sex, I for me personally, I'd rather like if the option 0.92

01:37:20.080 is to have sex or to not have sex in a car, I'd rather just not, you know? 0.95

01:37:25.460 Really? 0.96

01:37:25.900 Yeah, I'd rather just not.

01:37:27.980 But it's kind of like, well, I could go really far with this one, but just go oral.

01:37:33.400 It's it's kind of like cute.

01:37:38.300 Maybe I want you to weigh on this, too.

01:37:40.440 You know, like you ever been hooking up with a girl and she's like, well, I could give you 1.00

01:37:46.420 a handjob. 0.98

01:37:48.220 And it's like, I'd rather just not have anything, to be honest. 0.99

01:37:51.700 If it's like, if it's nothing versus a handjob, I'm good.

01:37:59.000 I think I'm OK.

01:38:00.300 I'm just never mind.

01:38:01.880 You know, or they even want to give you one in any.

01:38:06.660 I don't even want one in any scenario.

01:38:09.080 Yeah.

01:38:09.620 Like all by itself.

01:38:11.180 Hello.

01:38:11.500 Why is that even a thing?

01:38:13.600 Like, no, just no.

01:38:16.720 Yeah.

01:38:17.140 I'm good.

01:38:17.760 Yeah.

01:38:18.080 Handjobs aren't really.

01:38:19.260 They don't really do anything.

01:38:19.860 You're not your thing?

01:38:20.460 Yeah.

01:38:20.720 They're not your thing?

01:38:21.620 No, I've only had one my whole life.

01:38:23.140 And that was that was walking down the hallway in high school.

01:38:25.880 You were walking?

01:38:26.920 I was walking down the hallway in high school.

01:38:29.480 And my girlfriend was in front of me and she had reached back like in my pants and was 1.00

01:38:34.440 like giving me a handjob as we walked. 1.00

01:38:36.640 Surprise, bitch. 1.00

01:38:38.380 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:39.320 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:39.540 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:38:40.160 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:40.480 You ever have one like when you're sitting at a table and it's like under the table?

01:38:44.360 They try.

01:38:45.120 I stop. 0.96

01:38:45.700 Don't you feel like guys already give themselves handjobs when they self-pleasure? 0.98

01:38:51.840 Wait, what? 0.99

01:38:55.060 Don't guys give themselves handjobs? 0.99

01:38:57.920 Yeah. 0.99

01:38:58.620 When they're self-pleasuring?

01:38:59.760 Yeah.

01:39:00.260 So maybe that's maybe they're like, hey, I already I'm already used to this.

01:39:05.280 This is lame.

01:39:06.040 I want something different.

01:39:07.660 Maybe that's why.

01:39:08.240 I just don't think y'all know what you're doing.

01:39:13.000 What we're doing?

01:39:13.640 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:13.860 We don't have a penis. 1.00

01:39:14.280 Women often complain men can't find the clit. 1.00

01:39:16.780 Y'all don't know how to do that. 0.99

01:39:22.420 Why are you looking at me?

01:39:23.820 I don't know.

01:39:24.840 I'm a professional. 1.00

01:39:25.860 You're a penis. 1.00

01:39:27.380 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:27.520 Okay.

01:39:27.980 Yeah.

01:39:28.300 Normally we don't get two sexual talks into the show.

01:39:31.160 Oh, y'all like working out?

01:39:32.000 Get a shake weight.

01:39:32.920 Yeah.

01:39:33.180 Shake weight.

01:39:34.120 I don't know about like shake weight.

01:39:36.720 Okay.

01:39:37.260 I guess I'll get a little graphic for some, like you can't go over the, the head.

01:39:43.000 Like girls will like dry. 1.00

01:39:47.600 No.

01:39:47.960 Like you can't.

01:39:48.600 Not dry.

01:39:49.520 Go over the head.

01:39:51.180 It's a lube.

01:39:52.560 At least spill.

01:39:53.120 No, it has to be, it has to be on the shaft.

01:39:55.880 If you're going to do a handy, even then still don't give me one, but like, yeah, I'm giving

01:40:01.100 you instructions.

01:40:01.960 She knows.

01:40:03.320 I've given you instructions, bro.

01:40:04.620 They trying to like, you watch my videos or what?

01:40:08.280 You like what you saw?

01:40:09.720 Don't, you can't like rub the head.

01:40:12.440 Okay.

01:40:12.800 Whatever.

01:40:13.860 Moving on.

01:40:14.760 Yeah.

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01:40:40.200 All right.

01:40:40.760 Where were we?

01:40:41.520 We were talking about, oh, let's talk a little bit about waiting for sex.

01:40:46.320 So I have a question.

01:40:48.560 Have any of the girls here going around the table, starting with you. 1.00

01:40:51.520 Have, and this is a chronological question, so think chronologically.

01:40:55.740 Have you ever, chronologically speaking, had sex with a guy relatively quickly, perhaps

01:41:04.020 even a couple guys relatively quickly, and then you stumble across a man, maybe you like

01:41:13.080 him, especially a lot.

01:41:15.000 But those other guys, though, you had sex with them quick, first night, an hour after 0.94

01:41:21.020 meeting, in the bathroom at that nightclub, behind the dumpster of the bar, at the frat 0.93

01:41:28.920 party, whatever it is. 0.97

01:41:30.140 You had sex relatively quickly.

01:41:32.440 Then you meet a guy, and then, oh, you like this one. 0.57

01:41:35.620 Oh, no, hold on.

01:41:37.680 I think we should wait three months.

01:41:41.680 Have you ever done that?

01:41:45.720 Oh, sorry.

01:41:46.880 I would say I didn't go back and forth on it.

01:41:49.580 Like, when I broke with my ex, like, last year, over a year ago now, is when I started, like,

01:41:55.660 waiting to sleep with people.

01:41:58.000 And then I just ended up not sleeping with anyone, because after, like, a few months or,

01:42:05.240 yeah, whatever, I just wouldn't like them.

01:42:07.300 Um, and then I kind of got over it, and then I found with the guy that I actually did have

01:42:13.480 sex with, I, it was like, I don't know why, but I just, like, had no respect for him, and

01:42:21.220 so I just figured it would be fine.

01:42:23.980 Wait, one sec, really quick.

01:42:25.300 We're going to continue with this question.

01:42:26.400 I just need to read this before it falls off.

01:42:28.840 Alberta Sovereign donated Canadian 50.

01:42:31.520 Maddie, can you read it?

01:42:32.780 It's bad, because guys are being shamed to hell for looking at girls in the gym.

01:42:37.300 Then they do this.

01:42:38.620 Brian, you better not French me. 0.93

01:42:41.060 Q is great, but I miss Chase of base.

01:42:44.720 Keep fighting the good.

01:42:47.940 Finding the good?

01:42:48.660 Keep fighting the good fight, I think.

01:42:50.060 He meant to say, hey, Alberta Sovereign, thank you, man, appreciate it.

01:42:53.280 And yes, Q is great.

01:42:55.520 Thank you, man, appreciate it.

01:42:56.900 So, continuing on.

01:42:58.420 Oh, okay.

01:42:59.320 So, he was kind of like, it was low stakes, emotionally.

01:43:04.120 Yep.

01:43:04.260 Like, I knew, it was good for business, and emotionally it was low stakes, so that's why

01:43:08.880 I think I slept with him.

01:43:10.440 Okay. 0.71

01:43:13.960 Um, I have, but it was more, like, there was a different reason of me not having sex.

01:43:24.080 What was the reason?

01:43:24.800 I was going to therapy, because I had a sex addiction.

01:43:30.320 Oh, you got a sex addiction.

01:43:32.940 I used to. 0.88

01:43:34.160 Used to.

01:43:35.160 Does that, does it ever go away, a sex addiction?

01:43:38.640 It cannot go away.

01:43:40.420 Um, can you tell us a bit about your sex addiction?

01:43:44.760 What would you like to know?

01:43:46.740 How did it manifest itself?

01:43:48.060 Um, that's, like, deeper stuff, but.

01:43:54.960 We love deep.

01:43:55.940 Deep is great for the whatever podcast.

01:44:00.300 I'm saved by the fact.

01:44:01.000 Cost times donated $107.

01:44:04.420 I'm watching in retroactive time.

01:44:07.580 I meant, what info can I get slash give to provide my young daughters in the current market?

01:44:12.800 Yeah, first, that's why I asked.

01:44:13.460 Sorry, badly worded question.

01:44:15.580 Not me.

01:44:16.560 I am married for 17 years.

01:44:20.080 Uh, advice to your young daughters. 0.99

01:44:22.780 Hmm.

01:44:24.600 Hmm.

01:44:26.860 Uh, how young, did he say how young they were?

01:44:30.240 He said 12 and 14, I think. 0.99

01:44:31.920 Oh, dude, they don't get fucking smartphones until they're 18. 0.99

01:44:37.900 They don't get any social media. 1.00

01:44:39.880 They can have a fucking pager, dude. 1.00

01:44:43.120 Give them a fucking pager. 1.00

01:44:44.340 It's probably too late. 1.00

01:44:45.260 If they already have smartphones, you gotta fucking burn them in front of them and be like, 1.00

01:44:48.900 this is the work of the devil. 1.00

01:44:50.100 They cannot have smartphones until they're 18.

01:44:52.620 They can't have social media until they're 18.

01:44:55.300 Uh, private school.

01:44:58.100 Consider, you know, what else?

01:45:00.120 Uh, try to keep them living in the household for as long as possible.

01:45:06.440 Uh, what else?

01:45:07.360 Uh, and, uh, cause I, here's the thing.

01:45:11.920 Like, I think when it comes to picking a good man, your brothers and your fathers are gonna

01:45:18.220 give you the best advice and be able to help you screen out dudes.

01:45:22.940 No offense. 1.00

01:45:23.820 Left to your own devices, you're gonna pick the fuck boy. 1.00

01:45:26.660 You're gonna pick the bad boy who's gonna ultimately treat you like shit, rack you with 1.00

01:45:30.740 trauma, and then you're probably, depending on how fucking bad it is, you're probably 1.00

01:45:35.540 thoroughly, uh, fucked for your whole, no, I'm just kidding. 0.99

01:45:39.780 Maybe not fucked for your whole life, but, um, you should seek the advice of your fathers 1.00

01:45:47.680 and brothers when it comes to men. 0.98

01:45:52.880 You guys clearly disagree with that take.

01:45:55.380 Can, can you guys give me a little, I mean, maybe you agree, I don't know. 0.99

01:45:58.900 Don't just, if you disagree with something, don't just sit there quietly and be like, fuck 1.00

01:46:02.980 this misogynistic piece of shit, but I'm not gonna say anything. 1.00

01:46:06.120 Actually engage with the conversation. 1.00

01:46:07.760 How about, like, not having the phones and stuff?

01:46:09.460 Well, I mean, anything, but I mean, that's my advice.

01:46:12.540 First, I, if, you know, if, if, and when I have, uh, kids, uh, yeah, you're not, you're

01:46:18.780 not getting a smartphone until you're 18.

01:46:20.620 You're not going to be on social media until you're 18.

01:46:22.840 Um, I think it depends, depends on.

01:46:24.480 You don't need a smartphone.

01:46:25.380 I grew up without a, I'm 34.

01:46:27.000 I didn't have a, I had a flip phone.

01:46:29.640 I'm a very lucky that I was, I think in my senior year of high school, my space was just

01:46:34.220 becoming a thing.

01:46:35.040 Yeah. 0.97

01:46:35.460 I know it sounds like I'm a fucking boomer here, but. 0.97

01:46:37.260 Yeah, but you were not a teenager in 2024. 0.97

01:46:41.300 It is not 2024. 0.99

01:46:42.860 Oh, I don't give a fuck what, I don't give a fuck what the other kids in school. 0.99

01:46:45.960 Maybe they can have a phone, but not a smartphone. 0.99

01:46:48.720 Maybe they can have one of those phones where you have certain numbers where you can dial.

01:46:52.240 Maybe a flip phone if you're lucky.

01:46:53.880 I don't even know if they sell pagers like that.

01:46:55.800 Yeah, I know.

01:46:56.240 I'm being a bit facetious.

01:46:57.340 A little bit.

01:46:57.940 There's no way.

01:46:58.760 Maybe they can have, maybe they can have like a phone, like a flip phone.

01:47:02.380 I agree.

01:47:02.400 No social media.

01:47:03.660 I think social media is toxic.

01:47:04.900 No social media, no smartphone. 0.99

01:47:05.300 That's why I don't have all those social media twitters and shit. 0.99

01:47:08.980 Excuse me. 0.88

01:47:09.860 Sorry.

01:47:10.200 Banned.

01:47:11.080 Okay.

01:47:12.080 Private schools always go wrong.

01:47:14.060 All the roles that I know that went to private schools ended up way worse.

01:47:16.680 I went to private school.

01:47:17.980 Oh no.

01:47:19.000 Okay, then homeschool.

01:47:20.060 I don't know.

01:47:21.800 I mean, I would keep them off social media, to be honest.

01:47:25.040 Yeah, no social media, but a phone for safety?

01:47:27.940 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:47:28.220 Yeah, that's fine, but no smartphone, because then they can access all that bullshit. 1.00

01:47:31.760 That's true. 0.99

01:47:33.140 You get a flip phone.

01:47:35.720 Yeah, flip phone.

01:47:36.900 That's right.

01:47:37.720 Flip phone, yeah.

01:47:38.040 Do flip phone. 0.82

01:47:41.340 Yeah.

01:47:43.080 I don't know.

01:47:44.060 That's my advice when it comes to dating.

01:47:46.300 I'd tell them, I'd tell them don't fall into hedonistic behaviors.

01:47:52.160 Seek an instant gratification.

01:47:54.180 I would tell them that don't fall into believing in the concept of soulmates, the one. 0.99

01:47:59.420 Don't be aligning astrology signs, all of that bullshit. 0.99

01:48:03.940 Witchcraft. 0.99

01:48:04.520 Yeah, don't, yeah.

01:48:05.600 Witchcraft.

01:48:06.100 Witchcraft.

01:48:07.120 Witchcraft.

01:48:07.640 Yeah, definitely.

01:48:08.660 Let's add witchcraft in there. 1.00

01:48:10.900 Men are not their enemies.

01:48:12.900 They have to have some accountability for the guys that they choose in their lives.

01:48:17.240 Don't be afraid to discipline them and let them know that you don't approve of the gentleman

01:48:21.060 that they bring home, especially if you feel that their values don't align.

01:48:24.700 There's a lot of things.

01:48:25.940 As a father, like Brian said, you have to be the one, you're going to have the biggest

01:48:29.700 influence on who they date.

01:48:31.860 If they have brothers, I'm not sure.

01:48:33.180 He didn't say they have brothers.

01:48:34.760 Yeah.

01:48:35.160 Well, as a father, you're literally, your daughter's, like, you're showing your daughter

01:48:41.920 what, how a man should treat you, right?

01:48:44.320 So, I couldn't get the words out.

01:48:47.280 So, I mean, you have a big job.

01:48:49.620 You have two daughters that are, like, at that prime age where it's, like, comparisons

01:48:54.840 that, you know, the thief of joy.

01:48:57.500 So, that's why the social media thing is so big because you see girls who are, like, you

01:49:01.560 know, at the epitome of vanity and, like, wanting to look so beautiful and, like, you

01:49:06.700 know, be skinny, be thick, whatever.

01:49:09.220 Like, so, I think it has a bad influence on how, like, women think. 1.00

01:49:13.760 That's why there's so many women with eating disorders. 1.00

01:49:16.360 That's why there's women who want to, you know, go and get so much plastic surgery. 1.00

01:49:20.700 That's why, you know, girls want to, like, outdo the next. 1.00

01:49:23.960 So, I think, honestly, just show her, show your daughters that they are beautiful and

01:49:30.920 they are designed how God intended to design them and just show them how a man should treat

01:49:37.240 them.

01:49:37.520 So, that way, you're actually proud and happy with who they choose because they're going

01:49:42.840 to choose the right person because of everything that you instilled in them through their childhood.

01:49:47.440 You have a big, big job to do.

01:49:49.740 I 100% agree with everything you said and I think another really important thing to

01:49:54.980 do when you're raising kids is teach them accountability for what is happening in their

01:50:01.060 lives because all of the internal thoughts and beliefs that we hold about ourselves get

01:50:07.020 reflected in the external world.

01:50:09.440 So, if some guy is showing up in your life and he's not treating you well, you have a core

01:50:14.780 foundational belief that's not in alignment with who you're trying to become.

01:50:18.760 So, really getting people aware of the power that we have with our thoughts.

01:50:26.800 And this is what I teach in my coaching, too.

01:50:29.600 That's good. 0.99

01:50:30.760 In the Atlas household, it's going to be the fucking 1800s. 1.00

01:50:35.400 You're going to be working on the farm. 0.99

01:50:38.220 No, I'm just kidding. 1.00

01:50:39.260 No fucking internet. 1.00

01:50:40.740 Oh, no internet, too. 1.00

01:50:41.820 Maybe like a censored version of the Atlas censorship.

01:50:47.680 You have parental controls.

01:50:49.180 Maybe you can like, Wikipedia is way too woke.

01:50:53.140 Maybe you can like Google historical articles about World War II.

01:50:56.700 I'll allow her to, you know, but like, you know, you know.

01:51:01.780 Books.

01:51:02.220 It has, I'm going to, I'm going to procure, it's going to be the Atlas internet.

01:51:06.920 There's going to be historical things on there.

01:51:09.720 You can learn about history.

01:51:14.460 Primarily World War I, World War II.

01:51:17.020 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100.

01:51:20.660 Brian, you are correct.

01:51:22.620 I don't know a single woman who has a body count under 300.

01:51:26.380 Under 300.

01:51:27.180 What kind of woman do you know? 1.00

01:51:28.960 Puffy.

01:51:29.840 Puffimus.

01:51:30.840 Maximus.

01:51:31.840 Here, let me do, let me have Maddie read a couple of these chats. 1.00

01:51:34.660 Yo, Puffy, good to see you in the chat, man.

01:51:36.140 Thank you so much for your TTS.

01:51:37.800 I appreciate your patronage, man.

01:51:39.260 It's always good to have you in the chat.

01:51:42.220 And, you know, maybe.

01:51:44.320 Yo, chat.

01:51:44.860 One in the chat or two.

01:51:45.880 One in the chat if you want to see Puffy on the show.

01:51:47.940 Two in the chat if you're like, nah.

01:51:50.240 Okay.

01:51:51.100 Maddie, let me have you read this one.

01:51:54.740 Hi, Brian.

01:51:55.560 I'm first time donating.

01:51:57.000 Been listening for months.

01:51:58.400 Thank you for all the entertainment.

01:51:59.860 Love the show.

01:52:00.600 To the ladies, when is the last time you complimented a man on his appearance?

01:52:05.080 Go ahead.

01:52:06.540 Um, a week ago.

01:52:11.700 Today.

01:52:12.760 What was the compliment to?

01:52:16.120 You're so sexy.

01:52:18.020 Okay.

01:52:19.020 Thought it was going to be more vulgar than that, but okay.

01:52:22.420 I just thought you were really cute.

01:52:23.820 I told my boyfriend he was handsome, like, last week.

01:52:29.360 I told my boyfriend that I think he's pretty and handsome, like, a couple days ago.

01:52:34.940 Um, I told my ex who's trying to come back that he looked good.

01:52:39.740 Oh.

01:52:40.100 But, I don't know why I said that.

01:52:43.380 No, you just said you didn't like him.

01:52:44.860 Yeah, you said you didn't like him.

01:52:46.140 Yeah, you said you didn't like him.

01:52:47.660 What else was I supposed to say?

01:52:48.780 He sent me pictures.

01:52:49.560 Is he a words of affirmation guy?

01:52:50.840 He sent you a picture?

01:52:51.860 Yeah, he sent me a picture.

01:52:52.860 You ain't leaving him on read?

01:52:53.640 Of what?

01:52:54.660 Of just himself.

01:52:55.580 Oh, okay.

01:52:56.380 Oh, he got a response.

01:52:57.340 I'm so bad.

01:52:58.060 I know.

01:52:58.480 You're giving him hope.

01:52:59.580 You're giving him hope.

01:53:00.780 Yeah.

01:53:01.560 Wrong signal.

01:53:02.140 What about you?

01:53:03.320 I'm bad at that, honestly.

01:53:06.020 Oh, um, like, two weeks ago, I told someone that they were sweet.

01:53:11.980 Oh.

01:53:13.400 Um, I probably, today or yesterday, I tell my husband all the time, he's handsome.

01:53:20.180 He's perfect.

01:53:21.440 Yeah.

01:53:22.760 Q, when's the last time you complimented blah, blah, blah, man?

01:53:25.480 I got told I was handsome today.

01:53:27.040 Oh.

01:53:27.620 By who?

01:53:28.620 By who?

01:53:29.820 By who?

01:53:30.440 By a couple ladies. 0.82

01:53:32.460 By his mom.

01:53:33.340 No, I'm kidding.

01:53:36.080 I, the last time I complimented a man was my Chilean bodyguard back here, and I said that

01:53:42.920 uniform, that Chilean military uniform really brings out the color of his eyes.

01:53:49.280 Really just flattering.

01:53:51.000 Okay.

01:53:51.860 His name's, um, Gustavo.

01:53:58.000 Gustavo.

01:54:00.440 Good.

01:54:01.880 Good.

01:54:02.600 You see that?

01:54:04.760 Attentive.

01:54:05.660 Attentive.

01:54:06.020 Okay.

01:54:06.920 All right.

01:54:07.400 Can you read this one, Maddie?

01:54:09.280 If a man pushes for sex on the first date, he is low value or thinks you are not valuable

01:54:14.280 and is just trying to drop a nut.

01:54:16.880 Disagree.

01:54:17.980 Disagree.

01:54:18.500 I agree.

01:54:19.460 You agree?

01:54:20.140 I agree.

01:54:20.940 I agree.

01:54:21.820 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:22.160 Push, oh, pushes for sex. 0.99

01:54:23.820 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:54:24.520 I agree.

01:54:25.480 Okay. 0.99

01:54:26.060 Pushes for sex. 1.00

01:54:27.140 He's tacky. 0.99

01:54:29.960 Because he's not being, he's probably not being authentic. 1.00

01:54:32.220 He's probably, he's probably saying a whole bunch of stupid shit and trying to run game, 1.00

01:54:37.460 trying to, you know, use a whole bunch of cliche lines, trying to seduce her verbally. 1.00

01:54:42.080 He, he desperate.

01:54:43.460 And women can smell desperate on men when they're desperate. 1.00

01:54:45.880 So, I agree.

01:54:46.940 Okay. 0.99

01:54:48.820 Pushes for sex. 0.99

01:54:49.820 Maybe that's the crux of it. 0.99

01:54:52.280 Yeah.

01:54:53.120 Not if sex happens to happen on the first date.

01:54:56.860 That's different.

01:54:57.540 If he pushes for it, though.

01:54:59.300 I see.

01:55:00.180 Okay.

01:55:01.180 Okay.

01:55:01.640 Let's go back to you. 0.56

01:55:02.400 You said you had a sex addiction.

01:55:03.620 Let's talk about that a little bit.

01:55:05.800 When did that, has that, you always had that or?

01:55:10.800 I thought we stopped.

01:55:13.020 I started my first year of college.

01:55:20.980 And you're 21 now, right?

01:55:23.040 Yes.

01:55:23.620 So, when you, you were 18?

01:55:26.260 19.

01:55:27.340 19.

01:55:28.040 So, you didn't, when did you lose your virginity?

01:55:33.260 17.

01:55:33.980 17.

01:55:34.820 But it, it didn't, it didn't start until 19.

01:55:39.060 Yes.

01:55:39.960 Okay.

01:55:40.300 And so, sex addiction, it's kind of a vague term.

01:55:45.700 What, what did that mean?

01:55:47.180 How did that look?

01:55:48.840 Like, this sounds really weird, but genuinely, like, I felt like I wouldn't have a personality

01:55:56.940 unless I slept with someone.

01:55:58.460 Or, like, not, like, it wasn't about the person, but it was just, like, about the feeling.

01:56:04.940 Like, I needed that, like, little release.

01:56:07.720 Oh, release?

01:56:08.400 Or validation?

01:56:10.180 Comfort?

01:56:10.540 It was.

01:56:12.000 All the above?

01:56:14.560 Um, it was more of, so, my therapist told me that it was because, like, of my, like,

01:56:24.000 abandonment issues.

01:56:25.300 So, it was just, like, the fact that, like, I could leave them.

01:56:28.520 Because, like, I, like, it's really hard, like, for me to get, like, attached to someone.

01:56:34.440 And so, like, when I would, like, sleep with someone, all feelings would, like, I would

01:56:38.560 lose it, like, instantly.

01:56:40.440 And so, like, it was just, like, the fact that I could leave them. 0.99

01:56:43.660 So, it was, so, you would have sex with the guy and then just blame him, ghost him. 0.99

01:56:50.080 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100. 0.99

01:56:53.520 I've been complimented by a naturally born woman every day of my life multiple times a day.

01:56:59.160 I would like to come watch your show and live.

01:57:02.000 I don't even if I have to be a penal.

01:57:04.440 Penal?

01:57:05.580 Penal colony? 0.95

01:57:07.660 Uh, thank you, Puffy.

01:57:10.200 We have another one coming in, so I'm just going to hold off.

01:57:13.240 But, um, thank you, Puffy, man.

01:57:15.480 Appreciate your patronage over these many, many months.

01:57:20.060 Plato the Kid 22 donated $100.

01:57:23.500 Can you ask the panel if they have ever seen some good Red Bill videos that are about men

01:57:28.540 being just genuinely better people?

01:57:31.580 This feels like a very vague, uh, question.

01:57:36.120 They've seen good Red... 1.00

01:57:37.900 First off, I doubt the panel even knows what Red Pill is.

01:57:43.880 So, I...

01:57:45.720 I appreciate your TTS, but this is a very vague question. 1.00

01:57:50.960 But you, I mean, okay, fuck it. 0.99

01:57:52.680 Have you ever seen some good Red Pill videos that are about men being just genuinely better people? 1.00

01:57:58.280 I haven't.

01:57:59.340 Okay.

01:57:59.580 Yeah.

01:57:59.960 Yeah.

01:58:00.440 Wow.

01:58:01.020 What is Red Pill?

01:58:02.680 See this...

01:58:03.780 Okay.

01:58:05.120 I can explain what it is.

01:58:07.520 Red Pill is the truth.

01:58:09.280 But I'm not sure if...

01:58:10.620 Huh.

01:58:11.160 Oh, God.

01:58:12.200 You...

01:58:12.360 Mostly.

01:58:12.700 Guys, you should...

01:58:13.560 I appreciate the patronage, Plato, but you need to ask, like...

01:58:17.280 You know what I mean?

01:58:18.480 You gotta ask, like, a question that they're gonna understand.

01:58:21.160 Um...

01:58:22.160 But you understand, right?

01:58:25.240 You can explain it.

01:58:26.940 Well, no, because, I mean, my definition of the Red Pill differs from...

01:58:30.760 My view of the Red Pill is strictly the truth.

01:58:33.960 The truth of something.

01:58:35.880 Other people view it as, like, this sort of dogmatic thing when it comes to intersexual dynamics between men and women.

01:58:43.160 And then there's, like, a sort of, uh, there's dogma where it's, like, you know, some of which I agree with, some of which I don't.

01:58:54.960 I mean, I'll go around the table on it, but...

01:58:57.780 I don't understand the question.

01:58:59.140 Like, yeah, I don't...

01:59:01.540 I agree with most of it.

01:59:03.520 Okay.

01:59:04.120 All right.

01:59:05.280 Um...

01:59:06.000 You were saying?

01:59:10.520 I don't remember.

01:59:12.500 You said you had an anxious attachment style.

01:59:14.780 Anxious boy attachment style. 0.99

01:59:15.500 No, so, yeah, yeah, I think I was asking, okay, so you would have sex with a guy once, and then you'd ghost him. 0.99

01:59:20.900 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:59:22.040 Okay.

01:59:22.680 How many times did you do that?

01:59:24.340 In a span of, like, the whole time?

01:59:31.620 Yeah, since she was diagnosed with your...

01:59:33.500 Or just not even diagnosed, just, like, your whole life.

01:59:38.880 Well, I don't think, like, it's been, like, a whole life type of thing.

01:59:42.060 No, no, no, but, like, the first time you just had sex with the dude and just blanked him, ghosted him.

01:59:49.660 That was the first time, because I was, like, um...

01:59:52.860 Because I had, like, my first relationship, and that was for two and a half years, and that was the only relationship I had.

02:00:02.180 Mm-hmm.

02:00:02.280 And then after that ended, then that's when I started having a sex addiction.

02:00:07.400 Okay. 0.79

02:00:07.900 So you didn't ghost the guy, you lost your virginity, too.

02:00:10.920 No, I don't think it was from the get-go, but I mean, like, how many times total did you do that?

02:00:16.120 I don't know.

02:00:17.700 If you had to give a range.

02:00:21.040 Probably 30.

02:00:21.800 Can you take this?

02:00:22.860 Okay.

02:00:26.720 You're not supposed to gasp that hard.

02:00:29.280 Sorry!

02:00:30.900 Judgment-free zone. 0.86

02:00:31.920 No, no, no, no, I'm not judging, but now we know it's been at least 30 times.

02:00:35.880 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100.

02:00:39.540 My bad.

02:00:40.360 I'm just Delix.

02:00:41.520 What I was trying to say is I would like to come watch your show live.

02:00:45.500 I don't even need to be a penalties.

02:00:47.500 Wow, you've made it more confusing now.

02:00:51.980 Thank you, Puffy Vegas.

02:00:53.380 I don't even know what that meant.

02:00:54.520 Penalties.

02:00:55.540 Wait, I don't want to come across as judging at all.

02:00:58.540 Okay, the reason I gasp is, like, because I wanted to understand, like, why.

02:01:01.600 Like, what, like, why did you do that?

02:01:05.280 Like, you know.

02:01:06.880 Like, it was, I was just very depressed in that moment in my life.

02:01:10.660 So that was kind of, like, your outlet?

02:01:13.400 Yeah.

02:01:14.340 Like, it was, like, everything would just go away.

02:01:17.720 The guys wouldn't, they didn't know your intention, right?

02:01:20.440 What is it that would go away?

02:01:22.020 What was, like, I don't know how to explain it, because, like, like, right now, like,

02:01:25.940 I don't even think the same right now, but in that moment, like, I just remember I was

02:01:30.420 just, like, like, as soon as, like, like, I would come or whatever, and then, like, I

02:01:39.160 would, like, leave them, like, it was just, like, like, just, like, like, I feel, like,

02:01:43.680 relaxed.

02:01:44.120 Like, I'm, like, good to, like, go to sleep or whatever.

02:01:46.540 Did you initiate a lot of these?

02:01:49.360 Oh, no, never.

02:01:50.460 No?

02:01:50.880 No.

02:01:51.500 So you just accept it?

02:01:53.600 Yeah.

02:01:54.140 Wait, so you said you, once you come, you just, like, dip?

02:01:58.120 Well, no, not.

02:01:59.740 Come and dip.

02:02:00.360 Because, like.

02:02:01.220 Like, I was just saying, like, like, in general, like, at the end.

02:02:04.820 Like, after, like, I would, like, in general, like, come, like, it would just feel, like,

02:02:08.400 good, like.

02:02:09.620 Can I ask you something?

02:02:11.160 Did your, okay.

02:02:13.280 Did your ex-g, don't you? 0.67

02:02:15.020 Yeah.

02:02:15.900 Okay.

02:02:16.800 So I think, okay, I think I understand, like, maybe we're in the mind.

02:02:21.100 What's that's coming from?

02:02:21.740 Because, like, and this is what I've heard from, like, other friends that I've had that

02:02:27.320 have been cheated on is, like, okay, so a dude did a dude thing on you, right?

02:02:31.800 And cheated, right?

02:02:32.680 Because dude's cheap.

02:02:34.740 Anyway, everybody cheats, but.

02:02:36.460 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100.

02:02:39.460 Oh, thank you, sir.

02:02:40.580 Thank you.

02:02:41.280 Puffy, I just want to send this to you.

02:02:43.080 He's a brave and a decent man.

02:02:44.660 He's a pioneer.

02:02:45.880 Thank you, Puffy.

02:02:46.500 That's you.

02:02:47.080 Okay.

02:02:47.760 So it's kind of like your way of getting back at men, right?

02:02:50.820 Like, you're kind of not getting back at men, but, like, kind of acting like a dude.

02:02:54.820 Because dudes do that. 1.00

02:02:56.120 Ah, that sounds like bullshit. 1.00

02:02:57.640 I'm not going to lie. 1.00

02:02:58.300 That's a huge L. 1.00

02:02:59.900 That's a huge L for a girl to, you get cheated on, let me just go fuck a bunch of dudes. 1.00

02:03:04.560 Nobody's saying that's, like, the hierarchy of morals. 1.00

02:03:08.860 How are you getting, but you can't get me back for coming.

02:03:11.480 Like, you just can't.

02:03:13.000 It's never, it's never a W.

02:03:15.400 Like, as a guy, as a guy, like, say there's validity to what you just said.

02:03:19.760 I wouldn't feel like she got me back. 1.00

02:03:22.980 Like, if I fuck a woman and I come. 0.99

02:03:25.560 This is not for her ex, though. 1.00

02:03:27.140 Plato the Kid 22 donated $100.

02:03:30.800 Okay.

02:03:31.700 Oh.

02:03:31.920 So the videos that I was talking about were videos of men being stoic, of men being truly great, of men not bending to life, and being truly masculine.

02:03:40.960 Brian, I should have asked Candace instead.

02:03:45.000 Shout out to Candace Owens. 1.00

02:03:47.940 Candace who?

02:03:48.940 Candace Owens?

02:03:49.660 Is that who you're talking about?

02:03:50.920 Actually, you know what?

02:03:51.840 We have a video.

02:03:52.840 We'll pull it up later.

02:03:53.980 One of these compilation videos that I'm trying to see if I can find it. 0.99

02:04:01.280 Fuck. 0.99

02:04:03.100 We'll do that, but continue on, guys. 1.00

02:04:05.840 Oh, holy shit. 0.98

02:04:07.540 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100. 0.99

02:04:11.020 Have the girls rate this $500. 0.99

02:04:13.580 This guy, he's a madman. 1.00

02:04:16.280 He's a fucking madman, dude. 1.00

02:04:18.220 We'll do it in a sec. 1.00

02:04:19.140 Okay, Puffy.

02:04:19.640 Continue on.

02:04:21.700 I think you were.

02:04:22.360 Okay, yeah.

02:04:23.060 So I'm not validating what she's saying or saying that I even agree with it, but what I'm saying is I'm trying to place my head and where her head was at that time.

02:04:33.920 I think for a lot of women, when... 1.00

02:04:36.920 Jesus Christ.

02:04:37.640 Helicopter, our cool donated $100.

02:04:41.020 Who is the girl in the back? 0.99

02:04:42.480 She's always so perfect and quiet.

02:04:45.380 Madison?

02:04:46.520 I assume they're talking about Madison.

02:04:48.300 That's Madison. 0.86

02:04:49.640 She doesn't speak English.

02:04:51.640 She's mute.

02:04:52.960 That's why she's so quiet.

02:04:55.500 Go ahead.

02:04:56.440 Go ahead.

02:04:56.840 I just feel like once I talk, then there's going to be something that happens.

02:04:58.980 Just go ahead.

02:04:59.460 Just go ahead.

02:05:00.440 Okay, so I'm just trying to get inside her head.

02:05:04.840 Like, I think, you know, for everybody, depression can hit you differently and you're coming back in his... 0.99

02:05:10.340 Jesus fucking Christ. 0.99

02:05:10.900 See? 1.00

02:05:11.160 Billy donated $100.

02:05:13.920 Respect to talking about it.

02:05:16.020 Many good men get hurt from women with that outlook. 1.00

02:05:18.760 Hookup culture wouldn't be as bad if woman took the same self-accountability and tried fixing it. 1.00

02:05:25.040 Agreed.

02:05:25.620 Mm-hmm.

02:05:25.960 Thank you, Hilly.

02:05:26.620 Appreciate it.

02:05:28.320 Gotta take accountability.

02:05:29.820 Go ahead.

02:05:31.140 Maybe she should talk and then there wouldn't be something that pops up.

02:05:33.840 It's better if you just go ahead and make your point.

02:05:36.140 That was basically my point.

02:05:38.780 I'm just saying that I was saying that depression...

02:05:42.420 Jacob underscore W donated $100.

02:05:45.720 Don't tell me that again, Brian.

02:05:47.240 You're wrong. 0.83

02:05:48.300 Sounds like she's slash was using orgasm to cope with emotions. 1.00

02:05:52.580 Goddamn. 0.99

02:05:53.200 Now for the reason why. 0.99

02:05:54.780 One can only speculate.

02:05:57.420 Hmm.

02:05:58.160 I feel like I could agree to that.

02:05:59.460 Yeah, so you can't say anything about me saying about popping up anymore.

02:06:04.120 So anyways, yeah.

02:06:06.580 I think everybody can approach depression differently.

02:06:08.980 Some people go to drugs.

02:06:09.780 Some people go to sex.

02:06:10.560 Some people go to, you know, drinking.

02:06:12.400 So, you know, I'm not saying it was right, but I'm saying I can understand where you came from.

02:06:17.980 I was in a very toxic and horrible relationship with my first boyfriend, who's like my high school sweetheart, the whole deal.

02:06:26.660 I moved in with him.

02:06:29.160 It was a whole thing, and he broke my heart in many ways.

02:06:33.500 He didn't cheat on me, not that I know of, but he was just a horrible person.

02:06:37.980 And so for me, like, I fell into the promiscuity.

02:06:40.600 I went on a lot of dates.

02:06:42.660 Hilly donated $100.

02:06:45.140 I just wanted to interrupt again.

02:06:47.340 Smile.

02:06:49.080 Thank you, Hilly.

02:06:50.080 All right.

02:06:50.580 She invoked to the wrath of the TTSers. 1.00

02:06:55.540 Thank you, guys.

02:06:56.120 I'm done, honestly, because it's honestly, it's a coincidence every single time.

02:07:00.380 Wait, so you said it was about 30 guys where you would just have sex with them, and then, but would they want, I'm sure you're an attractive girl, I'm sure they would want to see you again, right?

02:07:12.640 Some of them?

02:07:13.080 Um, I'm, like, trying to remember, but, um, it was mostly, like, frat guys, so, like, it was people that, like, I already, like, knew, like, day to day.

02:07:24.780 Oh, this would, like, this would be, like, you're out at a party, alcohol, alcohol's involved, you'd, after the party, you guys are liquored up.

02:07:32.200 Yeah, and it was, like, my first year, like, it was my first time, like, at, like, college, or, like, in general, like, without, like, a boyfriend for the first time.

02:07:40.720 And, also, like, my experience, like, dating, like, was very different, and he cheated on me, like, I think, 36 times, 33, 36. 0.99

02:07:53.160 What the fuck? 0.99

02:07:54.060 Damn, you kept count, and let it get to 36? 1.00

02:07:57.100 I did. 0.99

02:07:58.800 But it's because I moved to Turkey for him, though.

02:08:01.560 That's why I wouldn't do it this time.

02:08:05.180 Wait.

02:08:05.800 I'm sorry.

02:08:06.820 You moved to Turkey?

02:08:08.300 Wait, so is this the, wait.

02:08:10.060 It, it, it's.

02:08:11.360 The current dude?

02:08:12.140 It's the friend.

02:08:12.920 It's the best friend.

02:08:13.820 Oh, okay, okay.

02:08:15.580 And, yeah, I moved to Turkey for him, and then.

02:08:19.680 The guy who cheated on you?

02:08:21.060 Yes.

02:08:21.920 Crazy how that works.

02:08:23.660 What she did for the guy that, she, she moved to Turkey for the guy that cheated on her 36 times, so you was definitely into him more than he was into you.

02:08:31.960 Well, I just want to say, I didn't know that he cheated on me until after I moved.

02:08:36.700 To Turkey?

02:08:38.460 Yeah.

02:08:38.820 So he was cheating with Turkish women in Turkey?

02:08:44.380 There was a lot.

02:08:46.560 Okay, there could have been some travelers, I guess, but, okay, so.

02:08:54.060 I have a question.

02:08:55.000 Wait, was this, what was the age of that relationship?

02:08:58.200 From what age to what age?

02:08:59.180 Because you're 21 now, so.

02:09:00.740 17 to 19.

02:09:02.520 17 to 19.

02:09:03.460 Okay, so this was a long-distance relationship for periods?

02:09:08.120 Yes.

02:09:08.980 Okay.

02:09:09.640 We were basically, like, engaged.

02:09:11.320 Like, it was a very serious relationship, and it was my first relationship.

02:09:16.200 Was it?

02:09:17.400 He cheated on you 36 times.

02:09:18.980 For her, it was.

02:09:19.980 Well, yeah.

02:09:21.820 Okay.

02:09:22.320 And also, like, I, I'm obviously Turkish, but I didn't grow up in Turkey.

02:09:27.760 Okay.

02:09:28.000 And so there's also, like, the, like, the cultural differences.

02:09:33.280 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:34.020 That I didn't know of, like, what was, like, really appropriate, obviously, back then.

02:09:39.280 But, yeah.

02:09:40.380 Okay, wait, so, you said the sex addiction was precipitated by your depression.

02:09:52.460 Was the depression caused because of the breakup of this relationship and the infidelity?

02:09:59.080 Um, partially.

02:10:00.560 Partially, okay.

02:10:02.000 So, wait, but you said that most of these scenarios would be, like, frat guys go.

02:10:07.980 Yeah.

02:10:08.400 Alcohol was often involved.

02:10:10.880 Okay.

02:10:12.220 It would be, like, like, my friends, like, would, like, force me to, like, go out.

02:10:15.880 Like, they'd be, like, like, oh, like, would you want to be, like, depressed and be in or, like, go out?

02:10:19.700 And so then I would go out and drink too much and then sleep with someone else.

02:10:23.680 Okay.

02:10:24.220 And then.

02:10:25.380 And that was, so you said that was about 30 times you did that?

02:10:31.100 Like, just one night, 30, one night stands?

02:10:33.160 I would say, like, probably 30 guys.

02:10:35.780 Oh, 30 guys.

02:10:37.520 I, I repeat a few.

02:10:38.640 Okay, so some of them you wouldn't, but it was never, like, ever serious.

02:10:43.940 Helicopters are cool.

02:10:45.060 Rigged, donated $100.

02:10:47.400 Is there any way we can teach her to speak English, please?

02:10:50.840 Who, Madison, back here?

02:10:54.520 Well, here's what you got to do.

02:10:56.120 It's really weird.

02:10:58.240 I don't know if you guys heard about that woman who had a TBI and then she woke up, or maybe she was in a coma.

02:11:03.560 She woke up and she, American woman, white woman, she woke up and she had, like, a Chinese accent.

02:11:11.740 Madison, it's not, it's not like she needs a TBI.

02:11:18.500 For some reason, she's, she's capable of speaking English when she gets liquored up. 0.89

02:11:24.300 Oh, wait.

02:11:25.000 Hold on.

02:11:25.300 No, this doesn't work.

02:11:26.460 She's not 21.

02:11:27.760 Okay, never mind.

02:11:29.180 I was going to say, we have a champagne.

02:11:31.760 Oh, my God.

02:11:32.480 I'm sorry.

02:11:32.840 I'm being a goblin.

02:11:33.920 I'm being a little goblino.

02:11:35.040 You know, never mind. 0.99

02:11:38.480 God damn, that was so corny. 0.99

02:11:39.640 I'm sorry, guys. 0.99

02:11:40.740 All right.

02:11:43.240 So, okay, you'd recycle a couple of the dudes.

02:11:46.560 Okay.

02:11:47.700 But so it was like 30 guys.

02:11:49.580 What was the span of time where you had slept with these 30 guys during your sex addiction?

02:11:56.020 Was it a one-year period, six-month period?

02:11:58.280 I would say one year.

02:11:59.680 One year.

02:12:00.160 So, like, the first year of college.

02:12:01.420 Okay.

02:12:01.880 Do you still have a sex addiction? 0.60

02:12:03.380 No, I wouldn't say so. 0.65

02:12:04.600 Okay.

02:12:05.840 Okay.

02:12:07.140 Good times.

02:12:08.940 What were, how did we arrive there?

02:12:11.680 There was a question.

02:12:12.500 I was going around the table on this.

02:12:15.140 I'm trying to recall.

02:12:16.400 I think it was, how soon did you sleep with the guy or something like that?

02:12:21.020 Oh, yes, I recall.

02:12:22.080 The question was, we're going around the table.

02:12:24.120 So, have you ever had, like, one-night stands, string of one-night stands, hooked up with whatever guys relatively early,

02:12:32.060 but then you stumble upon a guy you actually like, and then you make that guy wait weeks, months, whatever, to have sex with him?

02:12:40.520 Yes, but that was just because I was trying to actually, like, like them instead of losing feelings after sleeping with them.

02:12:51.600 So, I'm, I, usually I, before I give my response, I usually like to get around the table first on this.

02:12:59.800 So, I know you were going through something, however, if a girl told me, for example, that I was interested in dating, she told me,

02:13:10.800 Helicopters are cool, donated $100.

02:13:15.140 I will buy the bottle just to hear the English.

02:13:18.500 Tequila-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a.

02:13:25.400 Nice.

02:13:26.460 The champagne pop, the trigger for that is in the description if you're interested.

02:13:33.120 It'll trigger Madison to start talking. 0.98

02:13:36.380 We'll say that.

02:13:37.520 Thank you, man, appreciate it.

02:13:38.440 Uh, so if I was pursuing a girl and she told me, well, uh, six months ago, I was going

02:13:46.720 through a period of my life and I had, I was having one night stands and sleeping with

02:13:52.780 guys within, let me ask you a question.

02:13:55.340 What, um, from first meeting a guy to having sex with him, what's the quickest, like 30

02:14:02.120 minutes?

02:14:02.660 Have you had that?

02:14:04.100 No guys don't laugh.

02:14:05.200 Don't laugh.

02:14:05.540 Don't laugh.

02:14:06.260 Have you had that?

02:14:06.900 I'm not, I'm not attacking you for this.

02:14:09.740 I'm just asking, like you meet a guy at a frat party from first meeting him to having sex.

02:14:16.420 What's the quickest?

02:14:17.840 I think within like the first hour.

02:14:20.240 Within an hour.

02:14:21.040 Right. 0.53

02:14:21.580 So if a girl told me, uh, that she wanted to wait to have sex with me, multiple dates, weeks, 0.91

02:14:31.620 months.

02:14:31.980 But then she told me a few months prior, she had sex with a guy within an hour of meeting 1.00

02:14:38.560 him.

02:14:40.560 It's your prerogative to, to pay a week ago. 0.84

02:14:44.540 You had sex with guy within 30 minutes of meeting him a week later.

02:14:48.500 I'm waiting until marriage. 0.75

02:14:49.880 Then it's your choice.

02:14:52.140 But from my perspective as a guy, I'm going to feel like I'm getting a bad deal.

02:14:57.500 Like I'm a feel a certain type of way about that.

02:15:01.880 And I would, I would be like, well, that's your choice. 0.79

02:15:05.360 But I would feel like a sucker if I just, I would feel like a sucker in that situation. 0.63

02:15:13.680 I mean, it depends.

02:15:15.700 Cause if I communicate this with like a guy and I tell him like what the situation is

02:15:21.160 and what the reason is, and he thinks that way, then what I'm understanding out of that

02:15:28.960 is that he just wants to sleep with me in general.

02:15:31.520 No, not necessarily. 0.68

02:15:32.700 But you, you provided a certain treatment to the other men who you, who you had sex 0.92

02:15:40.140 with, but this guy who you, if you want a long-term relationship with him, who you perhaps

02:15:48.440 value more than those other guys, you're going to make him wait.

02:15:53.440 That makes me raise an eyebrow.

02:15:55.040 Well, I feel like it really shouldn't because like, let's say the other guys, for instance,

02:16:05.440 that I like slept with, or the one that took like an hour, that was someone that I didn't

02:16:12.660 care about.

02:16:13.440 So I didn't even put any like time into that relationship or any thought into it.

02:16:20.340 Like, so this should like show you how much like effort I'm putting into this.

02:16:27.480 Here's how, here's my translation of that though.

02:16:31.000 I thought this is what you would be.

02:16:33.540 This is sort of the framing of it.

02:16:35.220 I thought you were a better long-term prospect. 1.00

02:16:37.380 So I treated you worse than the guy I knew who was an asshole or toxic. 1.00

02:16:43.980 I'm not treating you worse. 1.00

02:16:45.480 We're just not having sex.

02:16:46.800 So you were so, you're so important to me. 0.92

02:16:49.320 I'm treating sex like it's sacred just for you, but not those other 30 guys who had sex 0.94

02:16:56.820 with me the first night. 0.53

02:16:59.500 I'm not sleeping with you so I don't lose feelings for you the first night I see you

02:17:06.760 or we hook up because I generally see something in you that I want to continue.

02:17:13.900 A hundred percent.

02:17:15.100 It's not the, in the guy's perspective, they're not going to see it that way.

02:17:18.680 But it's not like it's benefiting him.

02:17:20.860 It's more so, but it's benefiting her.

02:17:22.860 She's healing her heart and that's why she's choosing that.

02:17:26.060 So maybe she shouldn't tell him that she was giving it up to these guys right away so soon.

02:17:33.220 Would you hold the same standard to a man?

02:17:36.020 What do you mean?

02:17:36.800 Like could, okay, we'll say you. 1.00

02:17:39.040 Let's say you fuck a girl tomorrow and you don't care about her and then, okay, I know. 1.00

02:17:47.000 I don't do that, but okay. 1.00

02:17:48.040 Well, the average man does.

02:17:50.080 Okay.

02:17:50.800 Any man that I know does.

02:17:52.600 So we'll go off the average man. 0.98

02:17:54.180 Okay. 0.99

02:17:54.720 Fucks a girl tomorrow, meets a girl maybe the next week and he's kind of talking to her, 0.99

02:18:00.900 but he actually respects her and maybe wants something more with her. 0.99

02:18:04.680 And so like does the girl now get to have the same like perspective on him?

02:18:11.640 Okay.

02:18:12.520 So if, first off, men and women are different.

02:18:17.160 So it would surprise me, I think, it would be a bit surprising for,

02:18:24.520 because who's typically like pushing to have sex?

02:18:29.740 Who's typically pursuing sex? 0.88

02:18:31.660 Men. 0.57

02:18:32.000 It's typically men. 0.97

02:18:33.200 So, I mean, this sort of hypothetical scenario. 1.00

02:18:36.440 So the question is, would I object to a woman feeling upset if the guy didn't want to fuck her right away? 0.98

02:18:46.680 First off, I'm not sure in what world that ever would play out. 0.99

02:18:50.060 But like, no, I, if, if a woman, if a woman was upset that a new guy wanted to wait and she wanted to fuck him right away, 1.00

02:19:00.660 would, would I object to her being like, well, why don't you fuck me sooner? 1.00

02:19:06.060 Because you fucked all these other chicks sooner. 1.00

02:19:09.280 No, she can have that preference, I guess. 1.00

02:19:12.400 Okay.

02:19:12.880 I don't think any, most women are going to ever have that dynamic ever. 0.98

02:19:17.860 Like, oh, you fucked all those other girls really quickly, but you're making me wait? 0.89

02:19:24.520 In what world has that ever occurred? 0.99

02:19:26.760 Like, but no, I don't object to it if a woman has that standard. 1.00

02:19:30.620 Okay.

02:19:31.300 And then also, because you feel like, because she has like slept with people quickly, 0.93

02:19:35.840 and then all of a sudden has decided that she wants to wait.

02:19:38.380 Do you want to wait now with like future partners if there was another one?

02:19:42.240 Like, if this relationship ended, would you treat another relationship the same way?

02:19:47.060 Would you go about sex the same way?

02:19:48.620 What do you mean?

02:19:49.140 Or do you think you would like partake in one night stands again?

02:19:51.820 Or would it always depend on the person?

02:19:53.500 Well, with my current relationship, I didn't wait.

02:19:56.080 Okay.

02:19:56.440 But if something happened to this relationship, would you wait or would you still treat it person to person?

02:20:03.140 Or do you think that phase is over in your life?

02:20:04.940 I'm not sure.

02:20:08.580 Well, see, that's my concern then, because you say you're not addicted to sex anymore.

02:20:12.460 So why would you still have the same fear that was because of the sex addiction moving forward?

02:20:18.880 Why, if you used to have sex and then move on after you came, 0.72

02:20:23.760 why would you still fear that that's going to be present if you have sex with somebody that you really like?

02:20:28.940 Like, why would you hold off, hypothetically speaking?

02:20:31.600 Why would you then hold off because you don't want to lose feelings?

02:20:35.700 But that was an effect of being addicted to sex.

02:20:39.700 So if that effect is no longer, if you're no longer addicted to sex, why would you still fear that outcome?

02:20:45.780 Because let's say, like, she was saying that if I were to get out of this relationship,

02:20:51.900 which means that I would probably, like, have to go through another breakup, which that's what was the outcome of the person.

02:20:57.880 I don't think it was a sex addiction.

02:20:59.220 I think it was a lack of value for herself and depression,

02:21:03.360 because an addiction would mean that you probably shouldn't do it again.

02:21:07.260 Like, if you're addicted to alcohol, you shouldn't go to a bar, right?

02:21:10.980 But if you have a sex addiction, what does that mean?

02:21:13.140 You have to be celibate for life?

02:21:16.600 You have to eventually heal that bond, so that way you can have sex with your future partner.

02:21:22.320 So I wouldn't even label it as a sex addiction.

02:21:24.640 I would just label it as you were suffering with depression and didn't value yourself enough.

02:21:31.160 Wait.

02:21:31.980 Okay, look, I don't know the intricacies of your situation,

02:21:35.380 but could claiming that you had an addiction be a way of you...

02:21:41.320 What's the right wording?

02:21:43.940 Could you trying to frame this pattern of behavior as an addiction be a way of you trying to escape accountability for the specific actions that you took?

02:21:56.640 Because if you claim something's an addiction, then you can kind of just relinquish yourself of responsibility of having done it.

02:22:04.760 Oh, well, I have an addiction.

02:22:05.900 I have an illness.

02:22:07.780 I had no control.

02:22:09.840 Okay, well, in today's society, I don't think any girl would just randomly just be like, oh, I have a sex addiction.

02:22:15.400 I think a sex addiction also, it's like, if it's risky, like, it's categorized as if you, like, cannot help it and you're putting yourself at risk,

02:22:27.120 but you're doing it anyways because you just, like, I'm pretty sure that's what it is defined.

02:22:34.140 I mean, look, but she said her friends were, like, trying to drag her out to these parties.

02:22:38.720 It's very common for, were you in college at the time, I'm assuming?

02:22:42.100 I mean, you're in college, that's what people do, they go out to parties Thursday, Friday, Saturday night.

02:22:47.520 You're an attractive girl, you said you didn't even approach these dudes, these dudes are coming up to you. 0.98

02:22:53.380 Is this a sex addiction or were you just being promiscuous? 0.85

02:22:56.120 Like, that's my sense of this.

02:22:58.060 It's, it's very hard to explain the situation, but basically, I wasn't just randomly, like, I didn't wake up one day and was like, oh, I have a sex addiction.

02:23:07.040 I went to...

02:23:08.840 Helicopter R. Cool donated $100.

02:23:12.100 I am a guy and I have a sex addiction and I love it, I never want to fix my problem, best problem in the world, what's your thoughts, sex?

02:23:23.760 The British voice sounded, like, really high-pitched and excited for some reason.

02:23:29.000 I got high all the time.

02:23:31.520 You were saying?

02:23:32.160 Okay, so, um, what I was trying to say was, um, oh, I didn't just wake up one day and I was like, oh, I have a sex addiction.

02:23:43.860 It was, I went to therapy because my friends actually made me because I was actually having, like, a really bad problem.

02:23:49.860 Um, and then he was like, I think you have a sex addiction, like, you need to stop, like, having sex, like, you need to, like, you know, just get yourself, like, just focus on yourself for a little bit and just, because this is, like, your outlet and this can't be your outlet, if that makes sense.

02:24:04.340 How early on did your therapist tell you that you have a sex addiction during that process?

02:24:10.560 I think I was at probably 10 or 15 guys.

02:24:15.320 Do you think that maybe the therapist telling you that, since it was placed into your head, do you think maybe you, um, decided to use that label?

02:24:26.080 No, because, you know, because sometimes therapists will be like, oh, you've got ADHD, so then people are like, oh my god, I have ADHD, this is why I'm this way and I'm never gonna change.

02:24:34.020 Right, so sometimes if they tell us anything, it kind of reassures.

02:24:38.520 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100.

02:24:42.160 She's not lying of the 200 women I hooked up with, I known less than two hours shortest girl I knew was two minutes. 1.00

02:24:49.580 She just asked me to go into the bathroom at a club. 1.00

02:24:53.360 Have the girls rape me. 1.00

02:24:54.800 We'll get to it in a bit, Puffy. 0.99

02:24:56.440 Um, thank you, man, appreciate it.

02:24:58.420 Uh, so.

02:25:02.180 I think she was responding to me.

02:25:03.720 Yeah.

02:25:05.520 Okay.

02:25:06.660 I'm so sorry.

02:25:07.840 Yeah, do you, do you think that because your therapist kind of gave you that label, it kind of enabled you to give yourself that label and continue to do the thing?

02:25:16.560 Honestly, I think that probably did have, like, an influence, because it was also, like, my first year of, like, college.

02:25:22.880 Like, that's, like, technically that's where you learn, like, your life, because, like, that's the first time you're on your own.

02:25:29.440 And also, like, this is just me trying to, like, live life, and then someone's telling me that I have a sex addiction.

02:25:35.860 Like, obviously it's a doctor, like, I'm going to believe it.

02:25:38.500 And, like, that's subconsciously most likely going to do some things to me, but.

02:25:44.400 Because sometimes, like, giving, giving someone a label will box them in.

02:25:49.180 And so then they, you know, it's like if you tell yourself over and over and over, you know, you label yourself something, whatever.

02:25:55.800 You say, oh, my gosh, I'm ugly, I'm ugly, I'm ugly. 0.79

02:25:57.820 You believe it. 0.99

02:25:58.640 It's what you give out.

02:25:59.860 Right?

02:26:00.180 So then if you say, like, then you kind of become the addiction.

02:26:03.960 Right?

02:26:04.280 Because now you have that label rather than, like, looking inward and trying to see what are the deeper rooted problems.

02:26:09.540 Yeah.

02:26:09.800 I mean, I guess I will say, like, whenever, like, I do get too, like, sad or, like, depressed or, like, whenever, like, I have, like, too much of, like, a problem.

02:26:18.440 I do still use sex to cope.

02:26:21.000 But it's obviously differently.

02:26:23.540 That's what I was curious about.

02:26:25.240 Do you think you think it's easier to have sex with the men than to, like, introspect about the cheating and, like, what's going on emotionally with you?

02:26:35.100 What do you mean?

02:26:37.300 Helicopters are cool.

02:26:38.400 Donated $100.

02:26:40.600 No, it's not a problem, and I won't go see help.

02:26:43.380 Please don't see help. 0.98

02:26:44.720 Sex is great. 0.99

02:26:45.940 Does anyone here need a therapist? 0.98

02:26:47.700 I can be a great therapist.

02:26:49.760 Miss Quiet and I have a thumbs up or down, please.

02:26:52.500 Who's Miss Quiet? 1.00

02:26:56.040 Oh, thumbs up, thumbs down.

02:26:59.700 Okay.

02:27:00.360 All right.

02:27:01.860 Like, some people have trouble kind of, like, sitting with their emotions.

02:27:06.500 So do you think, like, going out and...

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02:27:20.420 Always a pleasure.

02:27:21.420 Hey, Grid One Motorsports, thank you for tuning in tonight, man.

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02:27:24.720 Thank you.

02:27:25.060 Thank you.

02:27:27.440 So do you think that it was easier than, like, going out?

02:27:31.680 Like, sitting with it was easier?

02:27:33.840 It's harder.

02:27:35.060 Hi.

02:27:37.760 I think...

02:27:38.800 Therapy session right now. 1.00

02:27:40.560 Shit. 1.00

02:27:41.940 All right. 1.00

02:27:42.280 Go ahead.

02:27:42.580 Give her your answer. 0.64

02:27:43.400 Go ahead.

02:27:43.580 I think going out was easier because, like, you know, like, you're drinking, like, at least,

02:27:49.660 like, I'm not in control of me.

02:27:51.400 Like, it's kind of, like, an excuse.

02:27:52.780 But, like, if I'm at home, then I'm going to be, like, texting people, like, guys, like,

02:27:56.520 hey, like, and then that would be...

02:27:58.780 And that makes sense because our brain, like, moves towards pleasure all the time.

02:28:03.420 So if that was, like, harder for you, then it makes sense why that...

02:28:06.540 Wait, so...

02:28:08.040 She needed a dopamine hit.

02:28:10.080 So question here for you.

02:28:11.580 Um, now that you have kind of moved past this, with your current new guy, how long did you

02:28:22.560 make him wait?

02:28:25.640 Um...

02:28:26.240 If you even did?

02:28:27.660 Well, we were friends for years.

02:28:29.880 Okay, so it's kind of different.

02:28:31.100 So it was very different.

02:28:32.380 Like, I generally, like, had feelings for him, and that's how we started.

02:28:36.580 Okay, but you're saying if, like, for you moving forward, your experience has been, and

02:28:44.820 will be, if you were to have, let's say this guy goes away, whatever, you meet a new guy,

02:28:50.900 let's say you're interested in a relationship with him, if you have sex with him too quick,

02:28:54.860 you'll just, despite your potential long-term interest in him, you'll just, it's over?

02:28:59.680 Well, I'm not saying that that's how it's going to be.

02:29:02.780 Oh, because you said if you have sex too quick, you just, like...

02:29:05.780 I'm, I was just trying to say, like, that's just how, that's been the pattern recently.

02:29:10.140 Like, it's just, I don't know, like, if it will change, but it hasn't so far.

02:29:16.420 Yeah, okay.

02:29:17.260 It will.

02:29:18.220 It will.

02:29:18.960 Yeah.

02:29:19.580 I'll, look, going back to my point, though, if a girl previously has engaged in, if she's

02:29:25.580 had sex quickly with a guy, and then all of a sudden you have this new standard, to me, 0.99

02:29:31.380 I just think it's bullshit. 1.00

02:29:32.220 It's, again, you're free to have it, but I'm going to feel like it's bullshit. 1.00

02:29:36.860 Hilly donated $100. 0.92

02:29:39.560 Can we start a challenge?

02:29:41.440 Having a conversation without using the word like every second word.

02:29:45.440 Thank you, Hilly.

02:29:46.260 Yeah, I just think it's BS.

02:29:47.680 What if I'm trying to be a better version of myself for you?

02:29:51.940 Like, for that guy, though?

02:29:53.100 Yeah, that's like saying, like, if an alcoholic says, I'm going to bring alcohol into this,

02:29:58.800 right?

02:29:58.940 Because we're talking about addiction, so let's label it.

02:30:01.640 If alcohol, if somebody who struggles with alcohol, and you're saying, oh my gosh, you're

02:30:06.460 not going to have a drink with me?

02:30:07.700 You're not going to have a drink with me on the first date?

02:30:09.740 Oh my gosh, I know you're trying to better yourself, but that's not fair.

02:30:12.640 I don't think that's a perfect analogy.

02:30:15.100 What if that's the standard that they take for the rest of their, like, life?

02:30:21.560 You know what I mean?

02:30:22.160 That would be more fair, but I'm fairly certain that, like, you'll have women who will have 0.99

02:30:29.960 had casual sexual encounters, fuck guys on the first date, and then, oh, let me switch 0.98

02:30:35.680 things up, and then, okay, I'm going to make this guy who I view for long-term potential, 0.99

02:30:40.360 I'm going to make him wait three months.

02:30:42.100 Let's say you date that guy for a year. 1.00

02:30:43.580 You break up with him, you're going to fuck a guy on the first date within a week of breaking 0.99

02:30:48.480 up with him, so your standard is just going to be wishy-washy. 0.99

02:30:51.960 That's my issue with it, is there's not, like, you don't actually have a value, you don't

02:30:57.800 have, like, a deeply held value, it's just like you're playing a game. 0.99

02:31:02.360 You're trying to leverage pussy to get a long-term relationship, basically. 1.00

02:31:08.060 It's not going to be fair no matter what, life's not fair. 0.99

02:31:10.560 I mean, obviously, it's, I'm not saying that, obviously, the guy wouldn't take your perspective,

02:31:18.640 but maybe the right guy will understand.

02:31:21.660 It's kind of like when you become a Christian, you become a Christian, you change your ways, 0.53

02:31:26.980 right?

02:31:27.420 You change your lifestyle, and you can tell your future husband, hey, I used to do these things,

02:31:32.940 and I'm not proud of it, but this is who I am now, and she can change her behavior,

02:31:39.300 she can change her patterns, that's what she's trying to do. 1.00

02:31:41.740 This is more about her healing.

02:31:43.340 I'm not saying it's fair for the guy, because it's not.

02:31:45.860 It's not fair for the guy.

02:31:46.920 The moment the guy knows, hey, you gave it away, you know, all quick, then yeah, he's going

02:31:51.540 to be like, well, what the heck?

02:31:52.620 Why didn't I get that, you know?

02:31:54.120 So I understand that, but again, this is about her healing.

02:31:58.020 Sure, and look, I understand, like, it is a bit of a tough position to be in this woman, 0.98

02:32:02.960 because obviously, look, if you're trying to change the way you move, I'm not saying, 0.58

02:32:08.340 well, if you used to be promiscuous, well, you should just continue being promiscuous.

02:32:12.700 I understand that it kind of puts women in a bind, but like, I'm just telling you the male 0.98

02:32:18.120 perspective here, like how we're going to feel, it's good for you, but like, you previously,

02:32:23.760 let's say you previously had sex with a hundred men, you slept with all of them on the first 0.71

02:32:27.440 date, first off, I would not advise a man to ever date a woman who's had sex with a hundred 0.96

02:32:31.800 other men, but that's another conversation, and then you want to make me wait for marriage? 0.97

02:32:38.960 So, if you're thinking in your best interest, you know, as a man, if you're thinking in your

02:32:44.520 best interest, would you also want her to think in her best interest for her healing journey

02:32:49.960 and being unapologetic about her boundaries?

02:32:53.280 Look, you can move however you want to move. 1.00

02:32:56.260 You can fuck three guys in one day within 30 seconds of meeting them, and then the very 1.00

02:33:01.820 next day, you can say, I'm waiting until marriage from here on out. 1.00

02:33:06.100 That's your call.

02:33:07.080 But if I meet you that day, and you tell me that you're waiting until marriage, and you 1.00

02:33:10.560 just fucked three guys yesterday? 1.00

02:33:14.380 Later. 0.99

02:33:14.780 Later, I ain't taking you seriously.

02:33:16.660 You're not, I'm not pursuing you.

02:33:18.560 And that's how a lot of guys are going to feel, because it's, it's going to look like 0.99

02:33:22.280 clown world shit. 0.98

02:33:23.520 That was never your, like, I guess you can turn a new leaf, but. 1.00

02:33:27.900 Anyone can turn a new leaf.

02:33:29.680 I mean, we're saying that, we're saying though, sorry, you want me to, okay.

02:33:35.120 We're saying that it's not beneficial for the guy at all.

02:33:39.220 We agree with you.

02:33:40.060 We agree that he's going to feel some type of way, because men do want to have sex, especially

02:33:47.040 if they know, hey, she's giving away sex, so, okay, I should have that pass too.

02:33:51.820 I should, I should be able to play that card too.

02:33:53.920 But the thing is, is it's not going to benefit her.

02:33:57.260 It's going to leave her in a worse place, and she knows that she can't go there, because

02:34:02.180 then it'll bring the addiction back up, and she'll lose feelings for the guy. 0.99

02:34:05.160 So, if I was the guy, and I knew that if we had sex, she's going to lose feelings for 1.00

02:34:09.400 me, and I genuinely want to have a relationship with her, I mean, see, I'm not a guy, but

02:34:14.500 if I was, then maybe I would pursue her.

02:34:17.880 I would avoid it altogether.

02:34:19.060 That's why you just avoid women who have, who have past traumas, issues altogether. 0.60

02:34:23.980 Yeah, I'm giving prescriptive advice to men that that's not a woman that you even date.

02:34:29.880 So, you're saying, well, if you really like her, da-da-da-da-da, like, sorry, you're

02:34:35.060 disqualified, peace out, A-town down.

02:34:37.860 Okay, but don't guys also treat women differently?

02:34:41.060 Like, there's women that, like, you sleep with, like, that are casual, and then there's

02:34:46.760 a girl that you take seriously.

02:34:48.940 You treat both of them differently.

02:34:52.320 He doesn't do casual sex.

02:34:54.660 Oh.

02:34:54.820 I mean, you're saying, so, okay, guys will have two boxes, like, the sex-only category

02:35:00.040 and the relationship category?

02:35:01.460 Yeah.

02:35:02.560 Okay.

02:35:03.380 Like, I'm saying, like, in general, though, like, guys also do that, like, where it's,

02:35:08.600 like, there's...

02:35:10.800 Well, I'll give you an analogy, right?

02:35:12.540 And it's not clear to me.

02:35:15.980 I don't know if what you're saying is a perfect example, but for example, here's an analogy,

02:35:20.800 right?

02:35:22.380 I've got, I've actually got a bunch of these.

02:35:24.240 I'm going to read them, because I've got them written down.

02:35:26.680 So, here's the, here's the sort of opposite framing.

02:35:35.760 These women, they were just for hookups. 1.00

02:35:37.620 So, of course, I brought the, I, I bought them expensive stuff, and I took them to the

02:35:42.340 best dining places, and I even paid their bills.

02:35:44.960 But you're different from them.

02:35:46.680 I see you as a potential girlfriend wife. 1.00

02:35:49.000 So, you have to wait for those benefits.

02:35:50.920 So, let's go to McDonald's, and you're paying, by the way.

02:35:53.520 We'll go 50-50.

02:35:54.780 But those casual hookups, no, no, no.

02:35:57.200 I got them.

02:35:58.060 I took them on vacations.

02:35:59.340 I did X, Y, Z.

02:36:00.240 I did all these nice things for them.

02:36:01.840 I didn't, they weren't serious, though.

02:36:03.060 But because you're my potential girlfriend, potential wife, we have to wait for those benefits.

02:36:09.700 That's so unrealistic.

02:36:11.060 How could you relate that to sex, though?

02:36:13.440 It's totally related.

02:36:14.540 Because it's, because, because, because the analogy is about value.

02:36:17.240 So, he's saying men, what, the value that men place on sex, that's why we want it.

02:36:22.940 What women value is the resources, the allocation of resources, us whining and dining you, showing 1.00

02:36:28.180 you ways that you're special, how we're willing to invest in you.

02:36:31.080 So, if we withhold, if we say the casual hookups that we had, we did those things for those women,

02:36:36.280 which is what women value, and then we took you, who we want to be serious with, and we 1.00

02:36:40.460 withheld that from you, then how would that, how would you feel about that?

02:36:44.080 Okay, but I'm not talking about how much money you spend.

02:36:47.100 I'm talking about your manners, and how you treat me, like, versus, like, like, let's 0.97

02:36:53.600 say, like, we're casually, like, hooking up, and there's a serious relationship.

02:36:57.720 You treat both those people differently.

02:37:00.640 So, you don't value, uh, resource allocation?

02:37:05.540 Lato, the kid 22, donated $100.

02:37:09.180 Girls, would you date a guy who's been to war?

02:37:12.580 Who's had a troubled past?

02:37:14.520 I would bet the answer is no, because of the society on vets with PTSD.

02:37:19.240 It's the same thing with your sex life.

02:37:23.120 Okay, going around the table, would you date a guy who's been to war?

02:37:26.120 I would.

02:37:27.000 Okay.

02:37:29.000 With PTSD?

02:37:30.640 Yeah.

02:37:32.040 Unless he's physically abusive.

02:37:42.740 I wouldn't.

02:37:44.080 I think we should absolutely judge people based on their past, and that's not a bad thing.

02:37:51.240 I think when you're investing in someone, and you're deciding to marry someone, you should

02:37:55.440 know about them, and you have the right to decide whether their past is a deal breaker

02:37:59.720 for you or not.

02:38:00.740 Absolutely.

02:38:01.020 Whether it's men who have war trauma, or women who have sexual history.

02:38:05.980 Absolutely.

02:38:07.140 So would you date a guy who's been to war?

02:38:09.320 I don't think so.

02:38:11.400 Okay.

02:38:12.860 I was going to say yes, and then after you said that, I'm like, I don't know.

02:38:17.020 I wouldn't.

02:38:19.540 I wouldn't.

02:38:20.380 Because I wouldn't be able to take on that extra trauma.

02:38:23.880 You've been to war at the strip club.

02:38:26.560 Yes.

02:38:27.320 Yes, I have.

02:38:29.460 But I have my own trauma, so I don't think I could take on someone else's trauma.

02:38:33.840 Okay.

02:38:34.100 Um, I don't think I would.

02:38:41.260 Okay. 1.00

02:38:42.440 Do you guys fuck with the war? 1.00

02:38:45.680 What? 1.00

02:38:46.220 What do you mean?

02:38:47.460 Like, do you guys?

02:38:50.300 What?

02:38:51.120 Do they respect veterans?

02:38:52.860 Of course I respect veterans. 1.00

02:38:54.100 Do you guys fuck with the war? 1.00

02:38:56.280 What? 1.00

02:38:57.480 Do you fuck with the war? 1.00

02:38:58.600 I absolutely. 1.00

02:38:58.820 I appreciate you going to war for this country. 1.00

02:39:00.220 You can't have no pussy, though. 1.00

02:39:01.220 I absolutely appreciate anybody who fights for our country. 0.99

02:39:03.860 I have two brothers in the Navy.

02:39:05.600 Um, however, I wouldn't.

02:39:09.080 I honestly, I wouldn't be with, yeah.

02:39:11.980 Because a lot of the time, you know, guys with PTSD have a lot of anger issues.

02:39:16.040 And personally, I grew up with a very angry father, dad.

02:39:19.800 I hope you're not watching this.

02:39:20.620 You're a much better man now.

02:39:21.840 Um, but my dad was very, had a lot of anger issues.

02:39:26.220 And I just seen how that, um, really affected my upbringing.

02:39:30.380 And just everything.

02:39:32.100 So I, I don't think I could deal with that.

02:39:33.920 No.

02:39:34.940 You want me to give you more analogies?

02:39:36.660 I got some more analogies for you here.

02:39:38.500 Yeah, that one didn't hit.

02:39:39.380 She don't mind.

02:39:39.980 That's an allocation.

02:39:40.820 Okay.

02:39:41.320 Let's see here.

02:39:42.240 So here's, I'm going to give a bunch of analogies here.

02:39:45.340 So, um.

02:39:45.940 That was a perfect analogy.

02:39:47.040 You got a guy with manners in there?

02:39:48.780 A guy with manners.

02:39:50.740 Okay.

02:39:51.140 So here's one.

02:39:51.860 Uh, telling your date that all your exes got five-star meals, but she gets McDonald's because 1.00

02:39:57.200 you have turned over a new leaf and decided that money has better uses than just trying

02:40:01.560 to impress people.

02:40:02.720 There's one.

02:40:03.900 Um, let's see.

02:40:05.560 How about this?

02:40:06.120 Every woman, the man she's, uh, going for has dated in the past, got tons of effort, trips 0.99

02:40:12.740 to Hawaii, Paris, Tokyo, personally selected gifts based on her likes, excellent communication

02:40:18.060 on everything she needs to know about, et cetera.

02:40:20.120 And now that she gets with him, he decides to be very tight with his money and effort.

02:40:24.560 No trips further than the target in their local city, maybe like a $50 gift card, maybe.

02:40:30.760 Um, and, uh, he just keeps everything from her that might help her understand.

02:40:35.120 Then when she asks what's up with him doing so much less for her, he says, it's because

02:40:40.800 I knew they were just momentary fun, but I think you might be the perfect partner.

02:40:45.420 So you have to earn all the effort.

02:40:47.640 I normally just give out freely.

02:40:50.220 How about that?

02:40:51.460 Does that help at all?

02:40:52.960 I still disagree.

02:40:54.180 Here, I got more.

02:40:54.720 I got more.

02:40:55.420 I got this.

02:40:56.080 I got this.

02:40:56.580 They're written down.

02:40:57.320 Okay.

02:40:57.800 Thoughts on this scenario.

02:40:58.940 You've been in a situationship with a guy for six months.

02:41:02.140 You're really like him.

02:41:03.200 You want him to commit to you.

02:41:04.480 But he says he likes to take things slow.

02:41:07.380 Somehow you find out that the last three girls he had committed relationship with, he

02:41:12.760 initiated the commitment conversation after only three weeks of dating.

02:41:17.400 How does that make you feel?

02:41:21.540 Well, the other girl shouldn't concern me.

02:41:25.340 Dang, she's holding.

02:41:26.560 All right.

02:41:26.840 Here's another one.

02:41:27.320 I got more.

02:41:28.080 I can keep, I can go all night. 0.95

02:41:29.920 She's going to die on that hill.

02:41:31.500 My guy that says please and thank you to the women that he dated before, but he withholds

02:41:36.640 it from her.

02:41:37.260 I got this.

02:41:38.060 Okay.

02:41:38.240 I need some manners.

02:41:38.880 I got some more analogies.

02:41:40.840 Okay.

02:41:41.420 So, making a man wait while her 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 previous partner she slept with on the 1.00

02:41:48.060 first or second date is like me going to McDonald's.

02:41:50.600 Everyone in the restaurant paid $1 for a cheeseburger.

02:41:53.540 There's three people in line ahead of me.

02:41:55.580 They all pay $1 for a cheeseburger.

02:41:57.180 Then I get to the front of the line, ask for a cheeseburger, and the clerk looks at me

02:42:02.340 and says, it's $1,000 for you, sir.

02:42:06.360 Then don't pay.

02:42:08.160 Exactly.

02:42:09.560 Let's see.

02:42:10.240 I got more.

02:42:11.020 Or it's more like the McDonald's cashier stating you need a reservation.

02:42:15.720 Okay.

02:42:16.680 For Mickey D's?

02:42:18.400 I'm not forcing them to be in relationships with me or like to wait for me.

02:42:23.820 No, you're not.

02:42:24.500 Here's some more.

02:42:25.020 Okay.

02:42:25.840 I think she understands.

02:42:27.820 Wait, wait, hold on.

02:42:28.580 And when she breaks up with you, divorces you, the next guy is not going to have to wait.

02:42:33.360 She'll have a rebound within days. 0.99

02:42:36.120 Hours.

02:42:37.040 Oh, okay.

02:42:37.860 All right.

02:42:38.960 Dang. 1.00

02:42:39.540 Damn. 1.00

02:42:40.440 Oh, also the McDonald's one with the $1,000 cheeseburger. 0.99

02:42:43.240 That'll be $1,000 for you because I like you the most.

02:42:46.220 Those other customers were just a mistake.

02:42:50.800 Anything?

02:42:51.660 No?

02:42:52.660 Because you're going to give me some real calls.

02:42:54.500 How about this?

02:42:55.320 Oh, let me read.

02:42:56.340 Okay.

02:42:57.000 Madison, can you read this? 0.98

02:42:58.400 I'm sorry, but Puffy Vegas, calm the fuck down. 1.00

02:43:03.300 Your Instagram is fucking weird. 0.99

02:43:05.460 I've listened to this podcast for quite a while and Jesus Christ, I'm alone. 1.00

02:43:09.660 Yo.

02:43:10.000 And even I can see that. 0.98

02:43:13.240 Damn, even the other TTS is coming after Puff, Puffimus Maximus. 0.95

02:43:18.040 Yo, Puffy, we'll get it pulled up in just a sec, brother. 0.97

02:43:20.200 Oh, God.

02:43:21.820 There's a war going on in the TTS.

02:43:24.380 Okay.

02:43:25.000 This whole argument, though, is only valuing sex.

02:43:28.640 Like, she's a person. 0.51

02:43:29.040 But it's about sex. 0.85

02:43:29.960 That's what I'm saying. 0.98

02:43:30.820 But it's about sex.

02:43:31.760 Yeah, but you're, like, only saying, okay, that she's just worth this one thing.

02:43:36.220 I didn't say that.

02:43:37.260 He's going for a whole room.

02:43:38.300 I didn't say that at all. 0.95

02:43:39.040 Sex is, like, gold to men. 0.52

02:43:40.700 Yeah, it's how much we value it.

02:43:43.580 But there's, like, time with her.

02:43:44.880 There's a partnership.

02:43:45.980 There's, like, this, that.

02:43:46.940 Yeah.

02:43:47.480 So it would make worth, like, waiting because it's not the only thing he cares about.

02:43:52.500 Okay, let me just ask you this.

02:43:54.060 Do you agree that it's unfair to the guy?

02:43:58.100 Do you agree that that's unfair?

02:44:00.600 Because, like, to the first example, he...

02:44:02.480 I don't think it's really his business.

02:44:04.020 I mean, he shouldn't be with me just for sex either way.

02:44:06.120 Like, he shouldn't care about, like, the other guy.

02:44:08.440 Like, how I treated them.

02:44:09.380 Like, he shouldn't even know how I treated them.

02:44:11.100 But, like, if, let's say he...

02:44:12.400 Oh, we got...

02:44:13.100 Hold on, we got...

02:44:13.800 Can you read this, Madison?

02:44:16.000 Oh, true. 1.00

02:44:17.300 Do you fuck with the war? 1.00

02:44:19.780 She, like, huh? 1.00

02:44:21.380 What did you just say?

02:44:22.780 Huh?

02:44:24.280 Keep going, keep going.

02:44:25.160 Like, just now? 1.00

02:44:26.660 Yeah, do you fuck to the war? 1.00

02:44:30.360 No, I don't fuck with the war. 1.00

02:44:32.240 I'm, like, no, I don't fuck with the war. 0.99

02:44:34.860 That was beautiful, Truth Bomb. 0.98

02:44:36.160 Thank you.

02:44:36.780 That was, like, Shakespeare.

02:44:38.140 That was poetic.

02:44:39.400 What?

02:44:39.880 Okay.

02:44:40.380 So, let's take it...

02:44:41.680 Maybe we take it another direction.

02:44:43.260 Maybe we say, okay, the guy that you're seeing, every relationship he's been, he abused them.

02:44:51.120 Oh, okay.

02:44:51.480 Would you be with him?

02:44:53.220 Wait, what?

02:44:53.860 Or would your past...

02:44:55.060 What?

02:44:56.600 Okay, I got it.

02:44:57.380 Sorry, go ahead.

02:44:57.960 No, no, I know.

02:44:59.040 Come on, right?

02:45:00.060 Because we're talking about past. 1.00

02:45:01.640 That shit got dark, though. 1.00

02:45:04.960 That's dark. 1.00

02:45:06.080 Okay, but still...

02:45:07.400 I'm listening.

02:45:08.120 Go ahead.

02:45:08.440 I'm with you.

02:45:09.080 Go ahead.

02:45:09.340 Yeah, you're hearing me, right?

02:45:10.460 Yeah, I'm following.

02:45:11.120 You understand.

02:45:11.260 I'm following.

02:45:12.120 I'm following.

02:45:12.260 Okay, so, he's following.

02:45:15.100 Anyway, so, every girl that he's been with, he's had issues, he gets angry, he hits them.

02:45:20.500 Okay, maybe he doesn't hit them, but he grabs them, whatever.

02:45:22.980 And he tells you that.

02:45:24.080 Would you still pursue the relationship?

02:45:27.480 No.

02:45:27.720 Why?

02:45:29.740 Abuse is different.

02:45:31.160 That's not a thing of value.

02:45:33.440 But the thing is, is it's action, right?

02:45:37.080 And for you, you took action in sex, and abuse is also an action.

02:45:41.320 So, you're kind of, we're looking at the past as, like, what are the things that you have done?

02:45:46.220 I get, like, it is a value system.

02:45:48.340 It's not a good value system to abuse a woman, but still, a guy will look at your past and,

02:45:53.180 you know, he will decide if he wants to be with you based off that.

02:45:56.920 I'm saying, like, in general, like, I'm not forcing a guy to be with me.

02:46:03.540 Like, obviously, like, these, like, things that, like, I have, like, these, like, little boundaries are my boundaries.

02:46:09.600 And, like, if a guy, like, is actually, like, I do believe, like, there's, like, that one person for you.

02:46:17.020 And if he's that one person for me, then he would wait for it.

02:46:20.940 Like, he would, you know, be there for it.

02:46:23.080 Does your current boyfriend know about your past?

02:46:26.900 Yes.

02:46:27.860 And that doesn't affect him at all?

02:46:30.700 No.

02:46:31.520 Well, I mean, I'm just curious.

02:46:33.800 I was just asking.

02:46:34.840 I mean.

02:46:35.340 See, so there is a guy that, you know.

02:46:37.260 Yeah, I was just curious if he had known and how he felt about it.

02:46:40.560 Well, we have very different perspectives because he's Turkish.

02:46:46.480 Like, he was actually raised there, which is very different perspective than, like, if you, like, like, you two, like, would have very different perspectives.

02:46:56.420 Like, even, like, as a guy.

02:46:57.660 But, in general, we just, like, don't really talk about it.

02:47:05.420 Oh, okay.

02:47:08.340 No, we have talked about it, like, completely, like, once.

02:47:12.540 And it was just, like, he knew what I went through.

02:47:18.220 So, as he should, he was more there for me than worrying about if I gave, like, the guy before him, like, had sooner than him, you know.

02:47:31.540 Okay.

02:47:32.600 Okay, I get it.

02:47:33.640 Yeah, but, I mean, essentially what Brian was just saying, he was just trying to get you to understand it from the value, value system.

02:47:39.560 That's all.

02:47:40.260 Because a lot of women, they don't consider the male perspective. 1.00

02:47:43.220 Like, why do men, well, why would you only want to have sex with me?

02:47:45.740 And it's like, no, it's just a principle because in the mind of a lot of men, the first thing we think about, okay, is what have you done with these guys that I have to wait for?

02:47:54.780 And then there's also, well, I don't want to be graphic, but when we think about women having sex. 0.95

02:48:01.980 Truth Bomb donated $100.

02:48:05.100 Okay, cool, love.

02:48:06.300 So, you're from Minnesota?

02:48:07.520 Only thing I know is that it's cold, break it down.

02:48:11.160 How's it compare to living in L.A.?

02:48:13.400 Well, I can't compare them, they're so different, you know what I'm saying?

02:48:18.760 Huh.

02:48:20.100 Huh?

02:48:21.340 Huh?

02:48:22.660 Huh?

02:48:24.060 Huh?

02:48:26.880 Is somebody from Minnesota here?

02:48:29.180 It's a song.

02:48:30.320 Oh, who?

02:48:31.540 Oh.

02:48:32.080 What song?

02:48:32.620 Lil Dicky? 1.00

02:48:33.200 Is that it?

02:48:34.260 Don't show that, Nick.

02:48:35.300 I have a question.

02:48:37.520 You see what I mean there?

02:48:38.860 Yeah, yeah, just, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:48:41.440 Thank you.

02:48:43.620 You probably would have caught it, I think, Nick.

02:48:45.860 Hopefully, hopefully.

02:48:48.700 Okay.

02:48:49.300 Wait, I have some more analogies.

02:48:52.540 Great, right?

02:48:53.500 Great.

02:48:53.900 Actually, you know what?

02:48:55.760 No, Q, you were saying something.

02:48:58.000 Yeah, I was just talking about, I was saying that the psychological foundation of the male

02:49:02.740 mind with us valuing sex, when you do that, what you're saying is essentially what Brian

02:49:07.560 was saying.

02:49:08.160 We're not as important because the thing that we value, you aren't willing to give it to

02:49:11.640 us.

02:49:11.760 We don't really care about what you've been through. 0.99

02:49:15.000 We care about the fact that these other motherfuckers got it, and I'm not getting it. 0.99

02:49:18.840 That's what we value. 1.00

02:49:20.920 And it doesn't mean we necessarily only want you for sex, but for men, sex is what creates

02:49:26.140 and continues a bond.

02:49:28.720 So, withholding that is something that can obstruct the development of our relationship.

02:49:35.860 I have a question for you, Q.

02:49:37.680 Let's say you were, you didn't really get a thorough background on a girl you were dating,

02:49:42.840 and you're engaged, or even let's say you're married, and you find out, no, let's say engaged,

02:49:48.960 right?

02:49:49.120 And you find out somehow, it never came up in conversation, you thought a certain way about

02:49:53.620 the girl, but then she, somehow you find out that she'd previously slept with a hundred 0.84

02:49:59.140 men.

02:50:00.320 Are you calling the engagement off?

02:50:02.180 Yeah.

02:50:02.700 Me too.

02:50:03.960 Yeah.

02:50:04.680 Do you guys object to that?

02:50:06.560 Do you think that's wrong for us to call off the engagement because she, it's wrong? 0.94

02:50:11.120 It's personal preference.

02:50:13.000 It should have been disclosed earlier.

02:50:15.260 Well, I do agree with that.

02:50:16.940 I do agree with that.

02:50:18.760 But, hey, some people, I would say the conversations we have on this podcast,

02:50:23.380 where we're talking about body count, I hear from a lot of women, they say, oh, I've never 1.00

02:50:28.040 had a guy ask me about my body count.

02:50:29.820 It never comes up in conversation.

02:50:31.260 So, I assume a lot of these men are dating women.

02:50:34.160 They, frankly, don't know.

02:50:35.900 Yeah.

02:50:36.140 They don't know.

02:50:36.820 And a lot of them, it's like ignorance is bliss.

02:50:39.260 They don't want to know.

02:50:40.420 But if they found out, so, in that scenario, would you object to the guy calling off the

02:50:46.120 engagement, breaking off the relationship?

02:50:49.400 He finds out she's previously slept with a hundred people.

02:50:54.000 I don't understand why that would affect anything.

02:50:58.000 Well, we can get into that in a bit, but you object to the guy breaking it off under

02:51:01.880 those circumstances.

02:51:03.740 I don't think it's wrong.

02:51:05.200 Don't think it's wrong?

02:51:06.580 I don't think it's wrong either.

02:51:08.000 Be honest.

02:51:09.000 I think, like, I mean, if I was a girl and if I was in the exact same situation, I would

02:51:15.000 kind of call it off, too.

02:51:16.980 Oh, okay.

02:51:17.600 What about you?

02:51:18.140 I would call it off.

02:51:19.440 I would call it off.

02:51:20.680 Oh, you would?

02:51:21.240 Well, that's not really so much.

02:51:22.900 Well, okay, fine.

02:51:23.940 Do you object to the man calling it off?

02:51:26.360 Maybe you might call it off, but.

02:51:27.600 Oh, yeah.

02:51:28.620 Wait, how about a different question?

02:51:29.840 And without asking what your body count actually is, if a guy found out what your body count

02:51:36.760 was and you guys were engaged, let's assume, though, you know, you didn't spend anything

02:51:42.340 on the wedding, right?

02:51:43.280 So let's not make it that dramatic.

02:51:46.720 He never asked you what your body count is, but somehow it comes up in conversation and

02:51:50.120 he's like, whoa, I thought differently of you.

02:51:53.720 Whatever your body count is, right?

02:51:55.420 And he calls it off.

02:51:56.560 Would you feel like that was an unfair, unjustified breakup?

02:52:01.840 With my current body count or with, can you say that again?

02:52:06.680 Like, are you saying if this guy is.

02:52:08.600 Okay, you're dating a guy, whatever your current body count is.

02:52:10.840 You've been dating him for a year, you're engaged.

02:52:13.080 Yeah.

02:52:14.100 He finds out somehow.

02:52:15.520 Yeah.

02:52:15.720 Whether you tell him, he finds out from other people.

02:52:18.100 And he's like, whoa, that's a bit too high for me.

02:52:20.860 I'm actually reconsidering this relationship.

02:52:22.940 I think we should break up.

02:52:24.580 Fair, unfair?

02:52:25.340 Fair.

02:52:27.960 It depends on how high the body count is.

02:52:31.020 Whatever yours is.

02:52:32.020 Oh, yeah, no.

02:52:32.880 I would say then have fun finding someone, like, with lower.

02:52:36.720 It's, you know what I mean?

02:52:38.280 It's, there's not that many girls with lower, so. 1.00

02:52:42.160 No, there's a lot.

02:52:42.860 But, you know what?

02:52:43.780 I'm not that high.

02:52:44.840 So, I wouldn't say, I would say that he's probably going to have to find a virgin.

02:52:53.200 Okay.

02:52:56.060 I disagree.

02:52:58.160 Okay.

02:52:58.920 I would respect that person even more, I think.

02:53:02.200 Okay.

02:53:03.780 I mean.

02:53:04.500 He dumps you because of your current body count.

02:53:06.460 I'd be like, oh.

02:53:09.060 Oh.

02:53:10.680 Oh.

02:53:11.620 That's it.

02:53:12.120 Okay, cool.

02:53:12.720 Just oh.

02:53:13.780 I don't know.

02:53:14.500 Later.

02:53:16.300 I think I would respect him, too.

02:53:18.540 Okay.

02:53:18.740 I would just be like, okay, that's your problem.

02:53:25.020 I would not object to it, but honestly, he seriously should have passed away before the

02:53:29.600 engagement.

02:53:30.820 I think that's honestly his fault for not doing due diligence to begin with, but I would

02:53:36.940 not object to it.

02:53:38.240 Yeah.

02:53:39.040 Hmm.

02:53:39.460 I think that is fair.

02:53:40.820 Like, if it is a deal break, like a huge deal breaker for you, then maybe you should

02:53:48.760 ask sooner rather than later.

02:53:51.880 All of the deal breaker stuff should be asked earlier.

02:53:53.840 But how many people, like, y'all have been in relationships, right?

02:53:56.720 Of all the relationships you've been in, how often is that a conversation?

02:54:02.500 Never. 0.87

02:54:02.600 Like, do you disclose, like, you talk about, yeah, I fucked 10 other dudes. 0.98

02:54:05.500 I would say most of them, but I've only been, like, ridiculed for having a sugar daddy, 0.93

02:54:13.680 but never for how many people I've been with.

02:54:15.360 Okay.

02:54:15.580 We'll talk about that later.

02:54:17.560 Thanks, bro, for the prompt.

02:54:19.180 You're welcome.

02:54:20.620 Here we go.

02:54:22.560 We wait on you.

02:54:24.360 I don't think I've never...

02:54:26.500 I got you.

02:54:29.580 I got you.

02:54:31.060 I've never gotten judged for my body count.

02:54:33.200 I don't think.

02:54:33.880 Or at least not.

02:54:36.460 To your face?

02:54:36.800 The current guy...

02:54:37.580 Yeah, like, at least not to my face.

02:54:38.860 The current guy that you're seeing...

02:54:45.280 He didn't judge it.

02:54:46.180 Does he know?

02:54:47.660 He knows.

02:54:48.960 A little closer to the mic, if you can.

02:54:50.400 He knows.

02:54:51.280 He's cool with it?

02:54:52.240 Yeah.

02:54:52.920 And he moved from Turkey to the U.S. to be with you?

02:54:55.600 Yeah.

02:54:56.640 Yeah, obviously he couldn't.

02:54:59.860 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

02:55:01.540 Sips water.

02:55:02.120 What was the exact question?

02:55:02.960 I forgot.

02:55:06.280 What was it?

02:55:07.980 What did he ask you?

02:55:10.300 Yeah, what was it?

02:55:11.480 What was what?

02:55:12.240 Oh, if a guy found out your body count, would he call it off?

02:55:15.640 Oh, no, no, no.

02:55:16.460 Have you been asked about...

02:55:18.280 In your relationship, have you ever been asked your body count?

02:55:20.700 Yeah, yeah, I ask all the really personal questions.

02:55:23.400 Yeah, I agree.

02:55:26.360 Agree with what?

02:55:27.380 With what she said, and yeah.

02:55:29.160 What did she say?

02:55:29.860 I don't think you know what the question is, my dear.

02:55:32.680 Maybe I don't.

02:55:33.260 Can you repeat the question?

02:55:34.280 Has a guy ever asked your body count?

02:55:35.800 Yes.

02:55:36.300 Okay.

02:55:37.040 I haven't been asked that.

02:55:39.160 Yeah.

02:55:40.140 Yeah, like my ex, yeah.

02:55:41.820 Okay.

02:55:42.560 I've never been asked, but I disclose it anyway.

02:55:44.680 Yeah, it doesn't really come up.

02:55:45.500 I have a photo that we're going to pull up that is kind of related to this, the whole waiting.

02:55:52.600 Can you put us, just maybe get rid of us?

02:55:55.180 Oh, no.

02:55:55.680 Oh, my gosh.

02:55:56.880 This is, see the guy in the suit and the flowers?

02:56:00.860 It's a Turkish guy.

02:56:02.420 No.

02:56:03.000 No, no.

02:56:03.560 But, like, that's kind of what I'm trying to say.

02:56:08.760 That's how it feels.

02:56:10.160 Oh, I come along and I'm supposed to be the guy with the flowers and we're going to wait

02:56:16.780 until we're married.

02:56:19.660 You know what I mean?

02:56:20.580 Okay, but you're judging me for sleeping with other, like, men, technically, but most guys

02:56:29.160 are sleeping with other, like, girls as well.

02:56:33.300 And as a woman, you are more than welcome to judge men for their promiscuity, but it

02:56:38.820 happens to be the case that I think women are not quite as invested in male promiscuity 1.00

02:56:45.800 as the reverse.

02:56:46.660 Of course, you're welcome to disqualify the men you date because of their body counts.

02:56:53.300 Realistically, though, women typically don't, so. 1.00

02:56:56.540 I think it's just because we're not insecure.

02:56:59.100 Not what?

02:56:59.720 You're not insecure?

02:57:00.460 Oh, oh, okay.

02:57:01.240 We can go into that.

02:57:02.100 We can go into that.

02:57:02.380 Well, I think our standards are different.

02:57:03.460 Like, we might not, you know, judge a man for his body count, but we might judge him for

02:57:08.260 if he has, like, a porn addiction or if he's liking other women's pictures on Instagram.

02:57:11.940 That's fair.

02:57:12.420 Like, I don't like that.

02:57:13.940 Wait, so going back to you, though.

02:57:15.560 So you, you said insecure.

02:57:19.540 Do you, so you think, is it insecure for a guy to care about a woman's body count?

02:57:24.500 I think, like, that, like, that's, like, what I would assume.

02:57:28.200 Because, like, if you're caring about, like, my past, like, like, who's done what with me

02:57:34.820 in the, like, in the past, then, I don't know.

02:57:39.520 Like, I, I would just.

02:57:41.080 Assume they're insecure about what?

02:57:44.140 Like, just, like, like the other guys.

02:57:48.180 Okay.

02:57:48.580 Because, like, I.

02:57:51.420 Like, I hear this a lot.

02:57:53.100 And it's, you're not necessarily wrong, but I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to add

02:57:57.740 a twist to it.

02:57:58.880 So what?

02:58:00.320 What's wrong with a man being insecure about his woman having slept with a whole bunch of

02:58:04.680 men?

02:58:05.720 Now, that's what I really want to know the answer to.

02:58:07.520 Because I get tired of women saying, he's insecure, he's insecure.

02:58:10.860 Okay, let's say you're right.

02:58:12.320 So what?

02:58:12.960 Now what?

02:58:13.540 Yes, I'm insecure.

02:58:14.420 I don't like the fact that you slept with a whole bunch of men. 1.00

02:58:16.940 I don't like the fact that you were a sperm depository, a cum, a cum dumpster. 1.00

02:58:22.500 I don't like that. 1.00

02:58:23.580 So let's, so let's say that.

02:58:24.780 So then what?

02:58:25.660 Now what?

02:58:26.280 Now that I've admitted that I'm insecure and that it bothers me because I'm worried about

02:58:29.720 your fidelity, your loyalty to me.

02:58:31.940 I'm worried about if you're going to fall back into your ways, your habits, that when you

02:58:37.040 were sleeping around with these men, that is going to reveal itself in our relationship.

02:58:41.260 I'm worried about if you're going to cheat.

02:58:42.340 I'm worried about all of these things.

02:58:43.700 Because I slept with other men.

02:58:46.360 Yeah, I'm worried about the concerns.

02:58:47.820 You're worried that I'm going to cheat.

02:58:48.860 But did you not sleep with other women? 0.69

02:58:50.760 We ain't talking about me sleeping with other women.

02:58:52.300 We talk about you addressing me being insecure.

02:58:53.780 But that also means that you would cheat.

02:59:00.640 I'm just showing him notes.

02:59:01.960 I have notes from a video he did a while ago.

02:59:05.300 I did a video.

02:59:06.580 Yeah, you did a video.

02:59:07.720 Like insecure on all these fronts.

02:59:10.500 Insecure for this.

02:59:11.700 Insecure for this.

02:59:12.900 Remember?

02:59:13.140 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:59:14.020 Remember that video?

02:59:16.060 Wookiee donated $100.

02:59:18.400 They're coming for you, Puffy.

02:59:19.600 I'm sorry.

02:59:19.620 Brian, please never have Puffy Vegas on.

02:59:21.880 It will be worse than the meth head from the last podcast.

02:59:25.340 I can't my IQ getting any lower.

02:59:27.920 I said what I said.

02:59:31.600 I think Puffy just wants some love.

02:59:32.920 Thank you, Wookiee. 1.00

02:59:33.560 Appreciate it.

02:59:34.280 So, did you want me to read?

02:59:37.380 Oh, if you wanted to, like, I have the list pulled up for you.

02:59:39.920 Oh, okay.

02:59:40.240 If you wanted to look at it.

02:59:41.320 Okay, yeah, because I was on a whim.

02:59:42.680 Yeah.

02:59:42.960 But, okay, so I'll read from the list.

02:59:45.200 Yeah, read from the list.

02:59:46.080 All right.

02:59:46.260 I'll send this.

02:59:46.860 I'll send this.

02:59:47.160 So, I had said initially in response to a woman I went viral for this several times.

02:59:52.860 She said, why does body count matter?

02:59:54.600 I said, I'd be concerned about the long-term benefits of dealing with promiscuous women. 1.00

02:59:59.380 I'd be concerned about, yeah, oxytocin receptors densified to the point where you can't effectively pair bond, poor sexual discipline.

03:00:05.240 And you didn't receive orgasms from the guys that you dealt with, which means you constantly chase validation because you want to orgasm.

03:00:16.300 So, you constantly have sex with more guys trying to chase an orgasm. 0.94

03:00:19.660 That's a thing that happens. 0.64

03:00:21.720 A hidden STI, increased risk of divorce.

03:00:25.140 All of those things are correlated to women having higher body counts, not to mention the scientifically rooted perspective of we are repulsed by women with higher body counts 0.89

03:00:34.360 because of a phenomenon known as paternity uncertainty, which means a promiscuous woman is more likely to cuck you, to have a baby by another man, and you don't know about it. 1.00

03:00:45.640 So, what's the difference with a man? 0.87

03:00:48.760 Wait.

03:00:49.400 Like, when a man does that.

03:00:50.260 Oh, she wants to know, what's the science behind men who have a high body count?

03:00:56.980 How does that affect marriages and relationships with future women? 0.98

03:00:59.580 I don't think men, but I don't think men call women who don't want to date promiscuous men insecure.

03:01:06.840 Men don't really care. 1.00

03:01:09.980 It's about the way we get labeled, but we don't do that to women. 1.00

03:01:13.980 We don't.

03:01:14.260 Yeah.

03:01:14.380 So, that's the difference.

03:01:15.360 Yeah.

03:01:15.560 We don't say, oh, you're insecure because you don't want to date me because I slept with a lot of women.

03:01:18.960 I'm not going to say that.

03:01:20.000 We'd probably just like, okay.

03:01:21.440 Right.

03:01:22.000 That's your call.

03:01:22.920 That's fine.

03:01:23.300 That's the point.

03:01:23.520 That's where these conversations, see, anytime women try to apply the same thing to men, the difference is what women say about men is not the same thing that men say about women.

03:01:33.280 When the tables are turned, we accept when a woman don't want to date us for whatever reason, but women will shame us, call us names, say things about us. 1.00

03:01:42.540 Oh, you're insecure. 0.99

03:01:43.600 It's because you have small dick energy, yada, yada, yada. 1.00

03:01:46.620 And that's what we want to know. 0.99

03:01:49.600 What y'all call insecure, I call having a boundary.

03:01:52.560 I agree.

03:01:53.120 Yeah.

03:01:53.400 I agree.

03:01:57.400 Period.

03:01:59.680 Did you say period?

03:02:00.400 You want more?

03:02:00.900 You got more for us?

03:02:01.720 What you got?

03:02:02.380 What you got?

03:02:03.460 No, I actually agree with that.

03:02:05.660 Oh, okay.

03:02:06.420 Okay.

03:02:07.080 Everybody has boundaries.

03:02:08.140 I mean, yeah.

03:02:09.980 I actually had, I got some more analogies, by the way, if that would be helpful.

03:02:14.200 No, more.

03:02:14.780 You know what?

03:02:15.860 I'll tell you what, though.

03:02:16.960 I am insecure about catching herpes.

03:02:20.740 How about that?

03:02:22.000 You're right.

03:02:22.560 I am insecure.

03:02:23.180 I will say health-wise, like, I would be scared.

03:02:25.120 Okay.

03:02:25.980 Well, someone who's had more sexual partners is more likely to have an STD, whether known

03:02:30.220 or unknown.

03:02:31.220 Well, you should get checked after.

03:02:34.300 Yeah, but somebody who's like, let me ask you a question, right?

03:02:36.620 So you said it was like, was it a six-month period, a one-year period, where you had the,

03:02:41.500 was it 30-so sexual encounters?

03:02:44.660 Were you getting tested between each of those?

03:02:48.840 Every single time.

03:02:50.880 Stop the cat, bro.

03:02:52.420 No.

03:02:53.160 I actually went, I was, because I went to UCR.

03:02:57.380 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100.

03:03:02.800 Oh, look at that.

03:03:03.320 I've known thousands and thousands of women. 1.00

03:03:05.720 I've never met one that was faithful ever.

03:03:08.040 Wow. 0.94

03:03:08.280 Every minute woman I met has tried to have sex with me. 1.00

03:03:12.140 Write have the one rate dot PS nine inches. 0.98

03:03:14.920 Oh, my gosh.

03:03:17.900 What?

03:03:20.020 I don't even know what button to press for that one.

03:03:23.880 Word.

03:03:24.720 Thank you, Puffy Vegas.

03:03:25.520 Appreciate it.

03:03:26.000 We'll get to, we're going to pull it up in just a sec. 0.95

03:03:28.020 Wait, so you're saying you'd have sex with a guy, and then you would not have sex with

03:03:33.940 another guy until you were tested. 0.89

03:03:36.860 Yes.

03:03:38.060 I'm going to call the cap on that one.

03:03:39.660 No.

03:03:40.020 I'm calling the cap.

03:03:40.640 No, I'm genuinely scared for that.

03:03:43.400 I don't, I don't, because it was.

03:03:45.560 My ex, I don't know how to explain it, but he scared me, so I'm actually scared.

03:03:50.740 All right.

03:03:51.320 Okay.

03:03:52.780 Well, I have some more analogies here I'm going to give.

03:03:56.440 Okay, how about this?

03:03:57.740 Okay.

03:04:01.880 Let's say we're dating, and I tell you I'm not the romantic type.

03:04:04.960 I don't buy flowers.

03:04:06.040 I don't do much of anything that would be considered romantic.

03:04:09.160 That's something that I think should wait until we're engaged or married.

03:04:12.980 Meanwhile, you are treating me much better than the women I dated in the past ever did.

03:04:18.140 And one day, somehow, you discover that the women I dated before you got flowers, cards,

03:04:23.600 expensive dinners.

03:04:24.400 And they were women that I've told you were significantly of lesser value than you, 0.94

03:04:30.200 and I cared far less about them.

03:04:31.620 They were just kind of, you know, these casual flings, and they didn't really matter to me.

03:04:35.900 How about that one?

03:04:37.220 Anything?

03:04:39.020 Anything?

03:04:39.900 You can communicate.

03:04:40.880 I don't think you're going to win her over.

03:04:46.200 I really don't.

03:04:48.120 Like, I don't know how to explain it better, but.

03:04:54.100 So, none of those scenarios.

03:04:55.720 I'm still going to disagree.

03:04:56.860 None of those scenarios say, okay, yeah, I understand.

03:04:59.300 None of those.

03:05:00.460 No.

03:05:01.180 Oh, my God.

03:05:02.320 Okay, how about this?

03:05:03.160 It's like going to a fancy restaurant.

03:05:04.800 You're waiting in line.

03:05:06.780 Everyone is paying $1 for a fancy T-bone steak.

03:05:10.540 And then when it's finally your turn, you're informed that all they have left is a McDonald's

03:05:16.620 burger that will cost you $1,000.

03:05:18.680 You're then told not to get angry.

03:05:21.620 You should be lucky that you're paying for everyone else.

03:05:26.360 That was a terrible, I'm sorry, that was not a good one.

03:05:28.740 Okay.

03:05:32.040 I don't know how to, never mind.

03:05:33.960 How about this?

03:05:35.320 It's kind of like, I mean, I would certainly give women, a woman credit if she was upfront

03:05:42.040 about it.

03:05:42.600 But when, what ends up happening is women will sort of like LARP and pretend like, oh, I, 1.00

03:05:47.580 these were always my standards and I've always treated men, you know, I've always made men

03:05:51.720 wait.

03:05:52.480 Lo and behold though, like that was never truly, you're basically lying, which is an issue in

03:05:57.160 and of itself.

03:05:58.920 That was never your standard in the past.

03:06:01.060 So it's kind of this fraud because the whole point of a woman having a waiting period before 1.00

03:06:06.120 she has sex is supposed to be due to her not being someone that gives sex away so easily. 1.00

03:06:12.440 So having a man wait implies that I'm not easy to get into bed. 0.99

03:06:17.160 Okay, but it's kind of things to men that we think that way, isn't it?

03:06:25.800 Think what way?

03:06:26.780 Like the fact that, anyways, does anyone else want to talk? 0.89

03:06:32.200 Like, she's going to die on that hill.

03:06:37.680 So, I mean, let's just, I say we just cap it.

03:06:44.580 No, I'll read one more.

03:06:46.500 I don't know if I, I think I tapped out.

03:06:48.780 I feel like mine about, what's a good analogy, but nobody agreed.

03:06:52.200 I got maybe one more.

03:06:53.380 Your boyfriend of five years has yet to propose to you.

03:06:56.140 He tells you he wants to take things slow and he isn't ready yet.

03:06:59.320 You find out that he proposed to his previous two ex-girlfriends after just nine months of dating.

03:07:05.900 Anything?

03:07:07.380 Bueller?

03:07:08.540 Anything?

03:07:09.520 If I'm waiting for a proposal and he hasn't given it to me in two years,

03:07:17.020 then I probably wouldn't have stayed in that relationship for two years.

03:07:20.640 That doesn't make sense, though, because how would you know what the future looks like?

03:07:24.700 Because, like, let's say it's been a year.

03:07:27.140 Then you would break it off because, like, it's been a year and you still haven't proposed.

03:07:31.200 Would you give an ultimatum?

03:07:33.380 No.

03:07:34.480 You don't believe in ultimatums?

03:07:35.420 Because you can't really change a person.

03:07:37.380 I think ultimatums are powerful.

03:07:40.040 If you actually mean it, though.

03:07:41.880 Not if you're just using it manipulatively.

03:07:43.700 Yeah, but most people use it manipulatively.

03:07:45.720 Yeah, but if you stand on that, it can work.

03:07:50.620 We've lingered on this one for too long.

03:07:52.600 So, hold on.

03:07:53.240 Let me just, last thing here.

03:07:54.500 So, basically, look, it's this.

03:07:56.960 Women are going to, it's like, I'm, a woman's position is, I'm going to make you wait an arbitrary amount of time 1.00

03:08:04.420 because I want to give you the impression that I'm not quick to give out sex.

03:08:09.220 But in actuality, I am, just not for you.

03:08:12.660 That's how we're going to view it as a guy.

03:08:17.420 Moving on.

03:08:18.040 Let's do Twitch. 0.97

03:08:18.840 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:08:20.640 Drops a follow, drops a prime sub.

03:08:21.940 If you have one, if you also can go subscribe to our Clips channel on YouTube, we're trying to get to 1 million subscribers.

03:08:28.840 Appreciate it, guys.

03:08:29.500 Thank you.

03:08:30.980 And, what's up?

03:08:32.020 Oh, we got, yes, we have to do, we were, wait, we were originally going around, oh, really quick.

03:08:38.440 This is the last thing on this.

03:08:40.080 We got stuck on you.

03:08:41.220 We were going around the table.

03:08:42.080 So, have you ever had sex with a guy kind of early on, and then you met a future guy, maybe you saw long-term potential, and you made him wait?

03:08:52.340 Sounds like it might have been the case for you.

03:08:56.020 Like, I've only had sex in relationships.

03:09:00.680 So, I don't, if there was a guy, and then there was another guy, that didn't happen.

03:09:03.580 Okay, what about you?

03:09:04.400 No.

03:09:04.720 What's the, wait, so, okay, what's the shortest period of time you've waited before hooking up with somebody?

03:09:12.680 Hooking up or having sex? 0.94

03:09:15.000 Oh, I thought those two were pretty much, yeah, having sex, yeah.

03:09:18.420 Um, I'd say, like, maybe three weeks.

03:09:24.120 That's the shortest?

03:09:25.280 Yeah.

03:09:26.080 I'm not, like, a one-night stand.

03:09:30.080 I'm a relationship girl.

03:09:31.560 I'm a relationship girl.

03:09:34.720 You really commit to the whole thing, right, with the eyes.

03:09:47.080 Three weeks?

03:09:49.120 Okay.

03:09:50.280 All right. 0.88

03:09:50.720 Um, I made a guy wait, sorry, I made a guy wait, um, three months before I had sex with him.

03:10:10.180 Um, have you ever hooked up with a guy before that quick?

03:10:14.060 Yeah, so, um, after my, um, relationship ended, I hooked up with, um, a guy, um, a guy very

03:10:24.580 quickly, because I was kind of going through, like, my heartbreak, um, and I didn't know how

03:10:30.200 to, like, manage it at the time, so, yeah, I hooked up, and then that kind of, like, turned

03:10:33.340 into, like, a very long situationship, um, but, yeah.

03:10:38.040 Um, so, yeah, the shortest amount of time, a few hours.

03:10:45.860 Okay, there you have it.

03:10:47.960 Wait, did we, okay, let me see, oh, I have to wait until she's back before I pull this 0.99

03:10:52.120 one up.

03:10:53.160 Uh, let's see what else we have.

03:10:55.860 Wait, where were we?

03:10:57.180 Oh, the Puffy, Puffy rating.

03:10:58.780 Well, I gotta wait for the girls to come back, but, Nick, just do a double check, because there's 0.99

03:11:02.940 definitely TOS shit on Puffy's Instagram. 0.99

03:11:06.400 I'm pretty sure there's, like, an ass somewhere. 1.00

03:11:08.320 I think I saw it last time. 0.98

03:11:12.960 Do you see what I'm talking about?

03:11:15.360 I haven't gotten to that yet.

03:11:16.760 Sorry.

03:11:18.200 Um, there's a, Jordan Peterson, actually, there was a previous chat that came in.

03:11:23.860 Nick, also, I want you to go into the Dropbox podcast videos folder.

03:11:28.080 Let me know when you're there.

03:11:29.080 Okay.

03:11:29.380 This was kind of related, uh, so, it's, and then the men folder, and it's called After

03:11:43.320 Dark, Men Are Necessary. 1.00

03:11:45.540 You can load that one up.

03:11:47.900 Load it up.

03:11:49.280 Load it up.

03:11:50.980 And, oh, there's also, wait, oh, there's two.

03:11:52.960 We're gonna do two.

03:11:54.200 Okay.

03:11:54.960 There's that one, and then there's one that's in the browser. 1.00

03:11:58.400 Oh, fuck. 0.99

03:11:59.380 It was one of the, the ship videos. 1.00

03:12:07.320 What's that?

03:12:08.560 I think it's, no, no, no.

03:12:09.980 This is not in the Dropbox folder.

03:12:11.480 It's gonna be at the top of the browser.

03:12:13.580 Okay.

03:12:14.240 In the videos folder. 1.00

03:12:17.460 It's, uh, fuck. 0.99

03:12:20.420 I don't know if I labeled it. 0.99

03:12:22.320 Can you, can you tell me what it, it's the, should be the last one or the second, like,

03:12:27.620 the second one?

03:12:28.780 The second one?

03:12:29.860 Yeah, I think it's a YouTube short.

03:12:31.920 I think.

03:12:32.860 Or wait, maybe it's IG video?

03:12:34.960 Just pull it, pull it up.

03:12:36.160 Let me see what you have.

03:12:37.400 Okay.

03:12:39.340 This one?

03:12:39.900 Uh, show me the other one.

03:12:45.080 Show me the other one.

03:12:54.000 I think it's this one. 1.00

03:12:56.100 Fuck. 1.00

03:12:56.480 Okay. 1.00

03:12:57.000 Fuck it. 1.00

03:12:57.500 Wait, F11. 1.00

03:12:58.300 F11.

03:12:58.680 Okay.

03:13:04.120 Sorry, turn the controller.

03:13:05.460 Okay, you want to watch it?

03:13:06.580 Yeah.

03:13:07.420 Uh, no noise?

03:13:09.260 Uh, just play it.

03:13:10.360 That's fine.

03:13:13.760 There's, wait, is there no audio on this?

03:13:17.640 Is this, wait.

03:13:21.180 I guess there's no audio on the video.

03:13:23.080 Actually, it might be the other video I wanted to, wait, let me see if. 0.97

03:13:27.340 Damn. 0.98

03:13:28.680 Look at the, okay, there's ships. 1.00

03:13:30.940 This is so out of context.

03:13:32.620 I'm sorry, guys. 0.52

03:13:33.120 This makes no fucking sense whatsoever. 0.79

03:13:36.400 Do you guys think women should be paid equally to men? 0.98

03:13:40.580 What do you guys think?

03:13:43.060 Men are doing these jobs, so, no. 1.00

03:13:46.240 Like, do you think, I actually think we should, like, you know, like, equal board seats for women. 1.00

03:13:52.440 There should be equal, like, deaths at sea for women, too. 1.00

03:13:55.600 Don't you guys think?

03:13:56.340 Like, like, equal drowning deaths at sea, like, workplace deaths.

03:14:02.120 Do you guys think we should equalize that?

03:14:06.140 Like, equality, right?

03:14:07.320 Like, I'm a feminist here. 1.00

03:14:08.540 I think an equal amount of women should die at sea working. 1.00

03:14:12.740 You guys, are you guys also not, are you guys, like, do you hate women? 0.99

03:14:16.380 Are you guys not feminists like I am?

03:14:18.980 Because I'm a feminist. 1.00

03:14:20.120 I think women should also die at sea. 1.00

03:14:22.820 Because I'm a feminist. 1.00

03:14:23.720 I mean, I would say that women are less like being whipped for those jobs because we don't have the same strength that men have. 0.99

03:14:31.520 Are you guys just, you hate women?

03:14:32.880 Is that what it is here? 0.99

03:14:34.140 Do you, are you guys, like, misandrist, like those evil red pill guys? 0.96

03:14:39.460 Like, are you just, you guys are just misogynist, aren't you?

03:14:42.340 Because you don't want, like, I can't believe none of you are standing up and, like, demanding an equal amount of women die at sea while working.

03:14:51.960 I'm not a feminist. 0.96

03:14:52.980 I agree with you.

03:14:54.100 I'm conservative.

03:14:54.920 Like, this is really upsetting to me as a feminist here who believes women should also die at sea while working. 1.00

03:15:01.360 What the fuck? 0.99

03:15:05.780 Wait, can you pull up the other one? 0.99

03:15:08.260 Not the Dropbox one, but the other one.

03:15:10.820 I think that was the one I was interested in.

03:15:12.640 The audio is muted, by the way.

03:15:16.640 Yeah, go ahead, play it.

03:15:19.140 All right.

03:15:19.640 The most treacherous sea in the world.

03:15:22.780 Okay.

03:15:23.500 All right.

03:15:24.400 Oh, I feel like I didn't save it.

03:15:28.040 Wait.

03:15:29.900 Is this it?

03:15:31.360 No, there's another one.

03:15:34.420 I thought, is there another one in the folder, Nick?

03:15:37.340 No, I pulled out all the ones in that folder.

03:15:40.520 Huh.

03:15:42.500 Do you guys believe in equal pay between men and women?

03:15:47.280 I believe in meritocracy.

03:15:50.160 Ooh.

03:15:52.180 Okay.

03:15:52.800 Because, like, you know, I think, I'm a feminist.

03:15:55.360 I think we should also be, like, you know, having, you know, women on, you know. 0.99

03:16:00.660 Boats and shit. 0.99

03:16:04.520 You know? 1.00

03:16:05.720 You're just saying that because you're tired of women saying that they're feminists. 1.00

03:16:10.140 No, I'm, like, a feminist.

03:16:11.780 I would really like to see, like, more women, like, you know, representation. 1.00

03:16:15.360 I believe in equal representation.

03:16:17.000 Like, there should be equal debt, like, drownings for women. 1.00

03:16:22.320 Like, I'm a feminist, guys. 0.70

03:16:24.740 An equal amount of women should also drown, like, in, you know, their course of, their line of work. 1.00

03:16:30.280 No, honestly, men do far more dangerous jobs.

03:16:45.740 And, therefore, you know, that's why they're getting paid what they do.

03:16:50.240 Because they're honestly doing the things that women wouldn't want to do and get their hands dirty. 1.00

03:16:54.640 All right, let's play that video, if you can play that video, Nick.

03:16:59.060 Yeah, the JP one. 0.96

03:17:00.880 Last one.

03:17:01.680 Oh, I love Jordan Peterson.

03:17:03.140 We're going to need audio for this, I think.

03:17:06.980 Oh, the one comparing the way you got.

03:17:09.280 No, you can leave the audio.

03:17:11.320 Go ahead.

03:17:11.540 Nick, make us smaller.

03:17:39.620 No, no, no, no, no.

03:17:40.380 Just make us smaller.

03:17:41.540 Oh, yeah.

03:17:48.560 All right, what's that?

03:17:52.140 All right, yeah.

03:17:53.460 All right, yeah.

03:18:09.120 All right.

03:18:10.380 All right.

03:18:11.380 There we go.

03:18:18.780 Oh, it's good.

03:18:34.900 Wow.

03:18:41.900 Oh, okay, yeah, we, there you go.

03:19:02.900 There you go, look at that.

03:19:09.900 Oh, all right.

03:19:17.900 Oh, nice, nice, okay, good times.

03:19:19.900 That was so hot.

03:19:20.900 That was, I don't know if that was what I was looking for.

03:19:22.900 Honestly, I love masculine men, that was like, I got goosebumps.

03:19:25.900 Boom, that was beautiful.

03:19:26.900 That was hot.

03:19:27.900 Yeah.

03:19:28.900 All right, that was, those of you who are just tuning in,

03:19:31.900 somebody requested one of the red pill, red pill.

03:19:34.900 I don't even consider that red pill, but, you know,

03:19:37.900 about men being important and necessary.

03:19:41.900 Actually, well, do we go around the table on that?

03:19:44.900 Do we need men? 0.81

03:19:45.900 Yes.

03:19:46.900 Yes.

03:19:47.900 Yes.

03:19:48.900 Yes, absolutely.

03:19:49.900 Oh, girl, I'm serious.

03:19:51.900 I just laughed because you looked at me.

03:19:54.900 What?

03:19:55.900 Yes.

03:19:56.900 Into the mics if you can.

03:19:57.900 Yes.

03:19:58.900 Yes.

03:19:59.900 Yes.

03:20:00.900 Yeah.

03:20:01.900 Yes.

03:20:02.900 Good.

03:20:03.900 That's good.

03:20:04.900 Okay, we have CJ here.

03:20:05.900 Misra, is that how you say your name?

03:20:07.900 Mm-hmm.

03:20:08.900 Can you read this one?

03:20:09.900 Misra.

03:20:10.900 Can you read this one for us?

03:20:12.900 I'd rather not.

03:20:13.900 Why, why not?

03:20:15.900 Um.

03:20:16.900 Uh-oh.

03:20:17.900 I'd rather not.

03:20:19.900 Don't mean to read it.

03:20:20.900 Okay, I'll have you read it, Maddie.

03:20:22.900 Misra said in the intro that she did, OnlyFans and is in between right now.

03:20:27.900 Her pay chatter logged in a few minutes ago. 0.94

03:20:29.900 She's a liar and is defrauding her sims. 1.00

03:20:32.900 I don't believe her addiction claims. 1.00

03:20:34.900 Get the rocks, Brian.

03:20:36.900 Get the rocks.

03:20:37.900 Get the rocks.

03:20:38.900 Yeah.

03:20:39.900 Abdul.

03:20:40.900 Yeah.

03:20:41.900 Get the rocks.

03:20:42.900 Get the rocks.

03:20:43.900 I'm actually quitting OF and those are.

03:20:47.900 Because you came on the whatever podcast.

03:20:49.900 Mm-hmm.

03:20:50.900 I want to claim that the whatever podcast is claiming that victory.

03:20:53.900 I respect that.

03:20:54.900 We got, did you know Nala?

03:20:56.900 No way.

03:20:57.900 The ahigao queen. 0.97

03:20:58.900 Yeah.

03:20:59.900 With the red hair.

03:21:00.900 Yes.

03:21:01.900 She quit? 1.00

03:21:02.900 She, she stopped doing OF because of the whatever podcast.

03:21:04.900 What?

03:21:05.900 Cause she came on? 1.00

03:21:06.900 I'm not sure if that's true.

03:21:07.900 Wait, Brian.

03:21:08.900 Probably.

03:21:09.900 I think we directed her.

03:21:10.900 She, she got baptized.

03:21:12.900 What?

03:21:13.900 Yeah.

03:21:14.900 She found Christ, I guess.

03:21:15.900 Again.

03:21:16.900 Praise God.

03:21:17.900 There's a video of, wait, Nick, can you find Nala's Instagram?

03:21:19.900 She got baptized shortly after her second appearance on the whatever podcast.

03:21:23.900 And I was her spiritual guide to getting there. 0.96

03:21:26.900 So that's a big fucking W for the whatever podcast. 0.91

03:21:29.900 And we'd love to add you to also to maybe both of you. 0.97

03:21:36.900 Are you going to stop now that you've come back on the whatever podcast?

03:21:39.900 Are you, can you, can you just look deep into this camera and be like, hi.

03:21:43.900 Hi.

03:21:44.900 My experience on the whatever cat, whatever podcast was so enlightening. 0.91

03:21:48.900 My experience on the whatever podcast is so enlightening and I'm now considering becoming more of a whore online. 0.96

03:21:57.900 Online. 0.98

03:21:58.900 Oh.

03:22:00.900 Bail. 0.99

03:22:03.900 That's a fucking 50 DKP minus. 1.00

03:22:06.900 What the fuck was that shit? 1.00

03:22:09.900 Okay. 1.00

03:22:10.900 Nice.

03:22:11.900 Um, so you're quitting your only fans because you came on the whatever podcast.

03:22:14.900 Sure.

03:22:15.900 Sweet.

03:22:16.900 Add it to the resume boys.

03:22:17.900 We got it.

03:22:18.900 We got it.

03:22:19.900 Two.

03:22:20.900 I think three.

03:22:21.900 Three.

03:22:22.900 I told the kid 22 donated $100.

03:22:25.900 Feminism, the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

03:22:30.900 Girls, how does that make you feel?

03:22:32.900 Advocacy of women's rights on the basis of what? 0.98

03:22:38.900 What?

03:22:39.900 Yeah.

03:22:40.900 How does that make you feel?

03:22:41.900 His definition of feminism.

03:22:48.900 One eternity later.

03:22:52.900 We should be basing it on more than just gender. 1.00

03:22:55.900 Mm-hmm.

03:22:56.900 Okay.

03:22:57.900 So, Misra, he says something about, do you have a chatter?

03:23:03.900 Um, I believe?

03:23:05.900 No.

03:23:06.900 What do you mean you believe no?

03:23:07.900 Wouldn't that be like a definitive?

03:23:09.900 No.

03:23:10.900 Like, I, I've quit.

03:23:11.900 Like, I've told my agency, so no one should be on my account right now.

03:23:16.900 Should.

03:23:22.900 Okay.

03:23:23.900 All right.

03:23:24.900 Thank you, CJ.

03:23:25.900 There you go.

03:23:26.900 Okay.

03:23:27.900 Uh, Junior Soprano.

03:23:28.900 Oh, he wrote that.

03:23:29.900 Okay.

03:23:30.900 We have Stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10, starting with

03:23:32.900 you.

03:23:33.900 Go ahead.

03:23:34.900 Give my looks an eight.

03:23:35.900 Okay.

03:23:36.900 And personality a 10.

03:23:37.900 Thank you.

03:23:38.900 Thank you for that addition.

03:23:39.900 Much appreciated.

03:23:40.900 You're welcome.

03:23:41.900 It's great.

03:23:42.900 Wait, am I answering?

03:23:43.900 Huh, Sabana? 0.97

03:23:45.900 Are you what?

03:23:46.900 What was the question?

03:23:47.900 What was the question?

03:23:48.900 Oh, what was the question?

03:23:50.900 Well, my dear, if I can direct your attention to the screen right there, ask everyone to

03:23:54.900 rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.

03:23:57.900 So like me?

03:23:58.900 My own?

03:23:59.900 Yeah.

03:24:00.900 Your own looks.

03:24:01.900 Yeah.

03:24:02.900 Probably like five and a five.

03:24:05.900 Five and a five.

03:24:06.900 So 10?

03:24:07.900 Like no, like five for looks and five for personality.

03:24:08.900 Are we doing math here or what are we?

03:24:10.900 Are we?

03:24:11.900 Huh?

03:24:12.900 Five for looks, five for personality.

03:24:15.900 Okay.

03:24:16.900 All right.

03:24:17.900 I would say eight or nine.

03:24:18.900 Eight or nine.

03:24:19.900 Okay.

03:24:20.900 I would say eight.

03:24:21.900 All right.

03:24:22.900 I would say seven and a half, eight.

03:24:26.900 Okay.

03:24:27.900 I would say like a seven.

03:24:29.900 All right.

03:24:30.900 My husband says I'm a nine.

03:24:32.900 I agree.

03:24:33.900 Nine.

03:24:34.900 All right.

03:24:35.900 Q, what about you?

03:24:37.900 I'm going to go with a six.

03:24:39.900 All right.

03:24:40.900 I give myself a five.

03:24:41.900 All right.

03:24:42.900 Ask everyone who said that.

03:24:45.900 No, he's not a six.

03:24:47.900 You're like seven point five.

03:24:50.900 All right.

03:24:51.900 There you go, Q.

03:24:52.900 Here, wait.

03:24:53.900 What if we change it like this?

03:24:55.900 Stiff Meister.

03:24:56.900 No.

03:24:57.900 Okay.

03:24:58.900 What do you think other people would rate your looks on average one to

03:25:01.900 10?

03:25:02.900 Oh.

03:25:03.900 So the first question is what do you rate your own looks?

03:25:06.900 And this question, he's finally after 140 episodes.

03:25:10.900 He's finally decided to add a slightly clarifying question here.

03:25:15.900 That's not just a self-assessment.

03:25:19.900 Well, I guess it still is, but.

03:25:21.900 I feel like that's such a hard question to answer because so many people like prefer different things.

03:25:26.900 Some people don't like girls that are taller than them. 1.00

03:25:30.900 I'm taller than a lot of guys, so.

03:25:33.900 Let's say a cross section of 100,000 men.

03:25:37.900 On average?

03:25:38.900 Average. 1.00

03:25:39.900 Fuck. 1.00

03:25:40.900 Seven. 1.00

03:25:41.900 Girl, you're beautiful.

03:25:42.900 I actually think, I will tell you, I think you rated yourself lower than you actually

03:25:52.900 are.

03:25:53.900 100%.

03:25:54.900 Thank you.

03:25:55.900 Maybe you're fishing for a compliment though.

03:25:56.900 I don't know.

03:25:57.900 I would say probably six.

03:26:00.900 Six.

03:26:01.900 Oh wait, so your own self-assessment is five, but you think people on the outside would view

03:26:07.900 you as a six.

03:26:08.900 Yeah.

03:26:09.900 Because you said five and then, but other people will see you as a six.

03:26:12.900 Okay.

03:26:13.900 I think probably eight.

03:26:14.900 Okay.

03:26:15.900 I would say like a seven or eight.

03:26:17.900 I would say, like at work or just like in general?

03:26:22.900 In general.

03:26:23.900 Um, like an eight, nine.

03:26:26.900 Okay.

03:26:27.900 I would say like a six or a seven.

03:26:30.900 Mm-hmm.

03:26:31.900 Yeah.

03:26:32.900 Yeah.

03:26:33.900 Nine.

03:26:34.900 Hmm.

03:26:35.900 Okay.

03:26:36.900 All right.

03:26:37.900 No tens at the table.

03:26:38.900 Thank God.

03:26:40.900 I'm not going to linger on that one for too long.

03:26:44.900 Let's see.

03:26:45.900 What do we have here?

03:26:46.900 Okay.

03:26:47.900 Let's get into some of our pre-show notes finally.

03:26:49.900 So, let's see Maddie.

03:26:51.900 Okay.

03:26:52.900 We talked about, you know, your whole gym thing.

03:26:55.900 Um, you said that.

03:26:59.900 Sunker donated $100.

03:27:03.900 Listen, Brian, first time donation.

03:27:06.900 Felt like you've been mailing it in lately.

03:27:08.900 This might be your definitive performance.

03:27:11.900 Very entertaining.

03:27:12.900 Keep doing the Lord's work.

03:27:15.900 Wait, what does mailing it in mean?

03:27:17.900 Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

03:27:19.900 Sounds positive.

03:27:20.900 I think it's a good thing.

03:27:21.900 What does it mean to mail something in?

03:27:22.900 Bring it in?

03:27:23.900 I don't know.

03:27:24.900 Like to bring it.

03:27:25.900 I think it means nailing it in.

03:27:26.900 Nailing it in?

03:27:27.900 Oh.

03:27:28.900 No, I think mailing it in.

03:27:29.900 What does mailing it in mean?

03:27:31.900 I know what nailing it in means.

03:27:32.900 Can I email it?

03:27:33.900 I don't know what mailing it is.

03:27:34.900 Like, can I email it?

03:27:35.900 You're putting it in the right place.

03:27:36.900 What if it's just like a text message?

03:27:38.900 That sounds more like mail.

03:27:39.900 So if text, like is mailing something, like to mail something that's, that you're putting

03:27:44.900 in the effort, like you're doing a good job.

03:27:46.900 Oh yeah.

03:27:47.900 Like you nailed it.

03:27:48.900 I would say nail.

03:27:49.900 No, I think he means mailed.

03:27:51.900 Let us know.

03:27:52.900 I'm pretty sure he means mail.

03:27:53.900 Yeah.

03:27:54.900 Okay.

03:27:55.900 I'm going to need clarification.

03:27:56.900 I've never heard that term before.

03:27:57.900 Do you agree?

03:27:58.900 Brian, do you agree with our ratings?

03:28:00.900 Ooh.

03:28:01.900 Uh, let's see.

03:28:02.900 I only wrote down, I started here cause I heard her nine. 0.84

03:28:06.900 So I wrote that down.

03:28:07.900 Uh, hold on.

03:28:11.900 I'm just taking another gander.

03:28:13.900 Maybe I shouldn't have asked that.

03:28:15.900 Hold on.

03:28:20.900 Okay.

03:28:21.900 I have some like makeup wipes here.

03:28:23.900 Can you guys like maybe, I would do it.

03:28:27.900 Maybe remove, remove your makeup and then cause like makeup can definitely add like at 0.99

03:28:33.900 least one point.

03:28:34.900 I'm down.

03:28:35.900 I'll remove half my face for you.

03:28:37.900 Maybe even two.

03:28:38.900 You're not even wearing that much makeup.

03:28:39.900 Yeah.

03:28:40.900 Yeah.

03:28:41.900 You're not.

03:28:42.900 Or maybe you are.

03:28:43.900 And it's just like that, you know, kind of natural makeup.

03:28:48.900 Okay, cool.

03:28:49.900 Uh, I think you guys were pretty, uh, there's definitely over inflated ratings.

03:28:56.900 I'll say that much.

03:28:58.900 Okay.

03:29:00.900 Can you be more specific?

03:29:02.900 What do you mean?

03:29:03.900 She wants me.

03:29:04.900 Be more specific.

03:29:06.900 Okay.

03:29:07.900 Fine.

03:29:08.900 You want me to just come out and say it?

03:29:09.900 No, wait, wait, wait.

03:29:10.900 No, no, no.

03:29:11.900 I'll say it.

03:29:12.900 No, no, no.

03:29:13.900 They want you to answer that too.

03:29:15.900 Because I don't know.

03:29:16.900 I'm just saying something.

03:29:17.900 Oh, you.

03:29:18.900 Okay.

03:29:19.900 Who's fine with me being honest?

03:29:20.900 You can be honest.

03:29:21.900 You're already.

03:29:22.900 You're already answered.

03:29:23.900 I already pointed towards you.

03:29:24.900 I was already pointing towards you.

03:29:25.900 Well, I was going to say not a nine, not a nine.

03:29:28.900 You said eight, right?

03:29:30.900 No.

03:29:31.900 Hey, you're attractive girl. 1.00

03:29:35.900 Attractive.

03:29:36.900 Uh, eight.

03:29:39.900 I'll give you a seven.

03:29:44.900 Okay.

03:29:45.900 All right.

03:29:46.900 Okay.

03:29:47.900 Here we go.

03:29:48.900 You're an eight.

03:29:49.900 Oh, wait.

03:29:50.900 I said seven and half an eight.

03:29:51.900 Yeah.

03:29:52.900 You said eight.

03:29:53.900 Not an eight.

03:29:54.900 No.

03:29:55.900 Seven.

03:29:56.900 You said not an eight.

03:29:57.900 You said not an eight.

03:29:58.900 Rude.

03:29:59.900 What am I?

03:30:00.900 Seven.

03:30:01.900 Six.

03:30:02.900 Six or seven.

03:30:03.900 Oh.

03:30:04.900 You, you said nine.

03:30:05.900 Sorry.

03:30:06.900 Not nine.

03:30:07.900 Rude.

03:30:08.900 What would you call me?

03:30:09.900 Oh, you want me to see?

03:30:10.900 Cause I.

03:30:11.900 Oh.

03:30:12.900 Huh?

03:30:13.900 Just go around at this point and tell us all.

03:30:16.900 Uh.

03:30:18.900 Hold on.

03:30:19.900 Let me get. 0.97

03:30:20.900 Let me look into the camera over here.

03:30:21.900 Let's see.

03:30:22.900 What?

03:30:24.900 This is awkward.

03:30:26.900 Uh.

03:30:27.900 Uh.

03:30:28.900 Six or seven.

03:30:29.900 Seven.

03:30:30.900 Maybe.

03:30:31.900 Six.

03:30:32.900 I'd have to see you without makeup.

03:30:34.900 Maybe seven with makeup.

03:30:35.900 Six without.

03:30:36.900 Maybe.

03:30:37.900 I don't know what you look like without makeup.

03:30:38.900 I think I look better without makeup.

03:30:39.900 I honestly.

03:30:40.900 What?

03:30:41.900 99% of the time I don't wear makeup.

03:30:42.900 You look better without makeup.

03:30:43.900 Yeah.

03:30:44.900 I own a gym.

03:30:45.900 I don't wear makeup.

03:30:46.900 You're telling me.

03:30:47.900 You spend money on makeup.

03:30:48.900 And you spend hours putting it on to look worse.

03:30:51.900 Actually.

03:30:52.900 Actually.

03:30:53.900 Actually.

03:30:54.900 I haven't bought makeup in years.

03:30:55.900 Make it make sense.

03:30:56.900 You haven't done makeup in years?

03:30:57.900 I haven't bought makeup in years.

03:30:58.900 I wear makeup.

03:30:59.900 Oh.

03:31:00.900 You've got that. 1.00

03:31:01.900 Expired shit. 1.00

03:31:02.900 She's got that expired shit. 1.00

03:31:04.900 Okay. 1.00

03:31:05.900 Okay.

03:31:06.900 Okay.

03:31:07.900 Once in a great while.

03:31:08.900 Okay.

03:31:09.900 I don't care when you bought it.

03:31:10.900 But like all my eyeshadow palettes.

03:31:11.900 Yeah.

03:31:12.900 Okay.

03:31:13.900 Whatever.

03:31:14.900 You bought it.

03:31:15.900 Okay.

03:31:16.900 Maintenance.

03:31:17.900 That wasn't really the central argument that I was trying to make.

03:31:19.900 But how do you.

03:31:20.900 I wear makeup less than 10 times in a year.

03:31:22.900 I'm proud of you, babe.

03:31:23.900 And I literally wore it.

03:31:25.900 Okay.

03:31:26.900 Today.

03:31:27.900 For you.

03:31:28.900 Well, for this podcast.

03:31:29.900 Thank you.

03:31:30.900 Well, for this podcast.

03:31:31.900 Not for you.

03:31:32.900 But for this podcast.

03:31:33.900 Cool.

03:31:36.900 I get it.

03:31:37.900 You're in front of a camera.

03:31:38.900 You want to look nice.

03:31:39.900 I don't object to women coming on the show wearing makeup. 0.99

03:31:41.900 You can go to my Instagram.

03:31:42.900 There's pictures of me without makeup.

03:31:43.900 That's great.

03:31:44.900 Do you not like women wearing makeup? 0.99

03:31:45.900 That was the other thing I disagreed with Ryan on.

03:31:48.900 Okay.

03:31:49.900 We can.

03:31:50.900 Oh, let's talk about that.

03:31:51.900 In my pre-show notes.

03:31:52.900 So in terms of women that I'm dating.

03:31:53.900 Yeah.

03:31:54.900 I prefer.

03:31:55.900 Just in general.

03:31:56.900 I prefer minimal or no makeup.

03:31:57.900 Well, okay.

03:31:58.900 We can have a conversation about like general makeup usage.

03:32:01.900 But I do want to linger a little bit on.

03:32:05.900 You said that you look better without makeup.

03:32:08.900 Who else said that?

03:32:09.900 You two?

03:32:10.900 I don't even wear makeup at work.

03:32:11.900 Okay.

03:32:12.900 You would spend time putting something on you and perhaps spending money on it.

03:32:17.900 If it made you look worse.

03:32:19.900 That doesn't make sense.

03:32:21.900 Honestly, I kind of regret wearing makeup tonight.

03:32:24.900 What?

03:32:25.900 I don't really like wearing makeup tonight.

03:32:26.900 Wait, make it make sense to me though.

03:32:27.900 What do you mean?

03:32:28.900 What do you mean?

03:32:29.900 I mean, I'm on camera.

03:32:30.900 Oh, you're saying, but.

03:32:31.900 The camera will wash your face out.

03:32:33.900 Right.

03:32:34.900 Those like, you know, I have like little dark circles like around my eyes.

03:32:39.900 Wow.

03:32:40.900 My husband says it looks like I'm wearing all day eyeshadow.

03:32:43.900 He's a sweetheart.

03:32:45.900 But, and my cheeks are naturally rosy.

03:32:48.900 So, honestly, I'm just wearing the makeup to enhance.

03:32:53.900 I'm not wearing it to change my appearance in any way.

03:32:57.900 Like, I can say, why do you wear hair gel?

03:32:59.900 Your hair's not that tall and slick back.

03:33:01.900 I don't.

03:33:02.900 I put a little maple syrup in it to, you know, I like, I put a little maple syrup in it.

03:33:07.900 It's not hair gel.

03:33:08.900 Get it right.

03:33:09.900 Gone.

03:33:10.900 Whatever.

03:33:11.900 So, you're using something.

03:33:12.900 Actually, I just use water.

03:33:13.900 This is just water.

03:33:14.900 No, it's not.

03:33:15.900 I swear to God.

03:33:16.900 No, it's not.

03:33:17.900 There's no way water's making it stick like that.

03:33:18.900 No, I swear to God.

03:33:19.900 No.

03:33:20.900 I don't know if you know Santa Barbara water. 1.00

03:33:21.900 That shit's rough. 0.99

03:33:22.900 I use a little tap water. 1.00

03:33:23.900 I go like this, and I...

03:33:25.900 I don't know.

03:33:27.900 Maybe your hair's oily, so that's why.

03:33:30.900 That's probably why, actually.

03:33:31.900 No.

03:33:32.900 Refrigerated, Maddie Rude. 1.00

03:33:34.900 Wait, can you get me room temp?

03:33:36.900 I want room temp, babe.

03:33:41.900 Oh, my God.

03:33:43.900 I'm kidding.

03:33:44.900 Sorry.

03:33:45.900 I'm being, I'm sassy.

03:33:46.900 I'm sorry.

03:33:47.900 It's like a sassy thing.

03:33:48.900 Whoa.

03:33:49.900 I'm in my sassy man era, okay?

03:33:54.900 But what is it enhancing?

03:33:56.900 I called her babe.

03:33:57.900 She's married.

03:33:58.900 What is wrong? 0.90

03:33:59.900 I'm going to get beat up.

03:34:00.900 I'm just being sassy.

03:34:01.900 I'm not, I'm not saying it.

03:34:04.900 I'm being sassy.

03:34:05.900 I'm not...

03:34:06.900 Hilly donated $100.

03:34:10.900 Bring out the wet wipes and see if they're legit or not.

03:34:13.900 She said she would do it.

03:34:15.900 Wait, what were we talking about?

03:34:17.900 Oh, my hair?

03:34:18.900 Wait, I'm confused.

03:34:19.900 The wet wipes.

03:34:20.900 How did my hair come into this?

03:34:21.900 Yeah, you know, listen, I...

03:34:23.900 She was comparing it.

03:34:24.900 She was making a comparison.

03:34:25.900 I don't believe in showering, okay?

03:34:26.900 Do you have a problem with that?

03:34:27.900 Yeah.

03:34:28.900 You got a problem with that?

03:34:29.900 Do I?

03:34:30.900 I don't know.

03:34:31.900 The...

03:34:32.900 What?

03:34:33.900 What's wrong?

03:34:36.900 What?

03:34:37.900 Hygienically, yeah.

03:34:38.900 You don't shower?

03:34:39.900 I have an issue.

03:34:40.900 Listen.

03:34:41.900 Not showering.

03:34:42.900 Listen.

03:34:43.900 I live in the woods.

03:34:44.900 It's a luxury for me to shower.

03:34:46.900 No, I'm just kidding.

03:34:47.900 Do you rinse?

03:34:48.900 I shower.

03:34:49.900 I shower.

03:34:50.900 Huh?

03:34:51.900 I don't know.

03:34:52.900 Listen, I swim almost every day.

03:34:53.900 I have a little chlorine stiffness in my hair.

03:34:55.900 Oh.

03:34:56.900 You know?

03:34:57.900 So, it's the chlorine water that keeps it nice and spruce.

03:35:00.900 But, but see, you're sprucing.

03:35:02.900 We're sprucing.

03:35:03.900 We're sprucing.

03:35:04.900 Wait, so okay.

03:35:05.900 What's the argument?

03:35:06.900 The argument is that we wear makeup to enhance our beauty.

03:35:11.900 But you said you look better without it.

03:35:13.900 And the hair gel would be the same thing.

03:35:15.900 So, the argument is hair gel is...

03:35:17.900 I am wearing makeup for the camera.

03:35:19.900 Exactly.

03:35:20.900 Oh.

03:35:21.900 Well, I put in a little maple...

03:35:24.900 No.

03:35:25.900 No.

03:35:26.900 Wait, so what's the argument?

03:35:27.900 I'm just confused.

03:35:28.900 I'm just confused.

03:35:29.900 But you enhancing your hair with product is the same as enhancing our faces.

03:35:35.900 I actually don't.

03:35:36.900 I'm being honest though.

03:35:37.900 There's zero product in my hair.

03:35:38.900 That's like a rule of thumb with production.

03:35:39.900 It's zero product.

03:35:40.900 If you wear something.

03:35:41.900 In my hair.

03:35:42.900 Even guys wear makeup on production.

03:35:44.900 There's zero, there's zero product in my hair right now.

03:35:47.900 I literally put water in it.

03:35:49.900 Okay, but have you put product in your hair before?

03:35:51.900 I haven't put product in my hair since elementary school.

03:35:54.900 I used to put a gel in it.

03:35:55.900 Cap.

03:35:56.900 No, I swear to God.

03:35:57.900 I've not put any gel.

03:35:59.900 Gel is disgusting too.

03:36:00.900 And then like you sweat and then it's like ugh.

03:36:03.900 I don't put any product in my hair.

03:36:05.900 Do you do anything to enhance your appearance?

03:36:08.900 Any...

03:36:09.900 I don't understand anything that enhance...

03:36:10.900 Do you do anything that doesn't come naturally?

03:36:13.900 Like you didn't wake up like this.

03:36:16.900 You did something to enhance your appearance.

03:36:19.900 I mean, I styled my hair for like two minutes before the show.

03:36:24.900 Why'd you style your hair?

03:36:25.900 Huh?

03:36:26.900 Why'd you style your hair?

03:36:28.900 Are you comparing like...

03:36:30.900 Yes.

03:36:31.900 Yes.

03:36:32.900 It's not...

03:36:33.900 I mean, look, I'll engage with it, but it's not...

03:36:36.900 I'm reaching a little bit.

03:36:37.900 It's not anywhere...

03:36:38.900 Most guys wear gel.

03:36:39.900 Let me ask you a question.

03:36:40.900 Do you think that a woman who wears a little bit of eyeliner 1.00

03:36:43.900 is comparable to a woman who has lipo, fake tits, and a BBL? 1.00

03:36:48.900 Do you think that's like an equivalent sort of enhancement of your physical appearance? 0.98

03:36:55.900 Like is that a fair equivalency?

03:36:57.900 Makeup versus surgery? 0.90

03:36:58.900 No.

03:36:59.900 Right.

03:37:00.900 So I'm saying that the jump you're making is somewhat similar from styling your hair a

03:37:04.900 little bit to putting on a facade.

03:37:07.900 I don't...

03:37:08.900 I think your comparison is like way bigger than what I'm saying.

03:37:13.900 But it is a...

03:37:14.900 You do at least acknowledge that you're making a leap.

03:37:18.900 Perhaps you don't consider...

03:37:19.900 I'm making a leap for you because apparently you don't wear hair gel.

03:37:22.900 I don't.

03:37:23.900 A lot of guys do wear hair gel or style their hair in some sort of way or like, you know.

03:37:29.900 Okay.

03:37:30.900 So let me ask you a question.

03:37:31.900 Do you think men who style their hair, even if they do use hair gel, is as much of a deception

03:37:37.900 or a fraud or a facade or a veneer as is wearing a full face of makeup?

03:37:47.900 No.

03:37:49.900 Do you think that it changes the appearance to the same degree that a full face of makeup

03:37:55.900 will?

03:37:56.900 Or even some makeup will?

03:37:57.900 I don't know how crusty is his hair in the morning.

03:38:00.900 You know what I mean?

03:38:02.900 Okay.

03:38:03.900 Could be a little crusty.

03:38:05.900 But so your argument hinges on...

03:38:08.900 The degree.

03:38:09.900 The difference is though is women are also capable of styling their hair too. 1.00

03:38:14.900 Wet men typically don't wear makeup. 0.98

03:38:20.900 But that's why...

03:38:21.900 Hopefully.

03:38:22.900 But we're different.

03:38:23.900 Right.

03:38:24.900 And I'm like...

03:38:25.900 Men and women are different.

03:38:26.900 I would be questioning if a man wore makeup.

03:38:27.900 What were you going to say?

03:38:28.900 Sorry.

03:38:29.900 I'm like, I literally have videos all over YouTube without any makeup on.

03:38:33.900 Yeah.

03:38:34.900 Me too.

03:38:35.900 Literally.

03:38:36.900 Okay.

03:38:37.900 Wait.

03:38:38.900 So what's your objection?

03:38:39.900 I don't understand what you're...

03:38:40.900 No, not you.

03:38:41.900 Oh.

03:38:42.900 You...

03:38:43.900 No, it's about...

03:38:44.900 It's about makeup, right?

03:38:45.900 So what's the argument?

03:38:46.900 Oh, I'm saying like makeup goes back all the way.

03:38:51.900 Okay.

03:38:52.900 Like centuries back, right?

03:38:53.900 Yeah.

03:38:54.900 It's like always been...

03:38:55.900 It's always been our thing.

03:38:57.900 It's not like...

03:38:59.900 It's not a normal thing for a guy to just like wake up and like throw on a full face.

03:39:03.900 It's not even normal for me to do that.

03:39:04.900 Like I said, I don't even really wear...

03:39:05.900 Yeah, I agree with you.

03:39:06.900 Men shouldn't wear makeup. 0.90

03:39:07.900 Yes.

03:39:08.900 Okay.

03:39:09.900 But women, we can. 1.00

03:39:10.900 There's nothing wrong with that.

03:39:12.900 You can...

03:39:13.900 Well, here is where...

03:39:15.900 Wait.

03:39:16.900 Oh, there's a meme, Nick.

03:39:17.900 There's a meme where it's like...

03:39:18.900 I don't know how you're gonna find it.

03:39:20.900 Oh, okay.

03:39:21.900 It's like one person standing facing like a crowd of...

03:39:26.900 It's a cartoon.

03:39:28.900 Facing a crowd of people and it's just one person and there's a little speech bubble

03:39:33.900 and it says, yes, I disagree with you.

03:39:36.900 I'm trying to find it.

03:39:38.900 Maybe I can find it.

03:39:39.900 Wait.

03:39:40.900 Cartoon.

03:39:41.900 Yes, I disagree with you.

03:39:44.900 I don't know if that prompt is gonna find it.

03:39:48.900 Oh, man.

03:39:49.900 Wait.

03:39:50.900 Frick.

03:39:51.900 Hold on.

03:39:52.900 See if you can find it, but...

03:39:55.900 Wait.

03:39:56.900 Sorry.

03:39:57.900 I'm kinda... 0.99

03:39:58.900 Oh, shit. 0.98

03:40:03.900 This is not gonna... 1.00

03:40:04.900 Wait.

03:40:05.900 Sorry.

03:40:06.900 Okay.

03:40:07.900 I'll try to engage in the conversation while I'm trying to find this.

03:40:08.900 So, what is it?

03:40:10.900 What's your...

03:40:11.900 No.

03:40:12.900 What's your disagreement?

03:40:13.900 Um...

03:40:14.900 I don't remember what I said.

03:40:19.900 Oh, yeah.

03:40:20.900 Makeup.

03:40:21.900 That women... 1.00

03:40:22.900 It's normal for us to wear makeup.

03:40:24.900 It's not normal for guys to wake up and wear makeup.

03:40:28.900 Um...

03:40:29.900 Okay.

03:40:30.900 So, I'm saying it's...

03:40:31.900 It's a normal thing.

03:40:32.900 If you see a woman with makeup, are you gonna be shocked? 1.00

03:40:34.900 Are you gonna be surprised?

03:40:35.900 Are you gonna be like, oh, my God, you're lying about how you look?

03:40:38.900 Right?

03:40:39.900 And obviously, you can also tell, if you look at a woman, is she caked? 0.70

03:40:43.900 Uh-huh.

03:40:44.900 Or is she just wearing something that's natural and just flattering?

03:40:48.900 There's also a difference there.

03:40:50.900 Mm-hmm.

03:40:51.900 Of how she's applying it.

03:40:53.900 How much is she applying?

03:40:54.900 Is she really trying to, you know, hide something?

03:40:58.900 Does she have, like, acne or something that she's insecure about?

03:41:01.900 Mm-hmm.

03:41:02.900 I can't find...

03:41:04.900 Oh, actually, wait.

03:41:05.900 Yes, you are all wrong.

03:41:06.900 Okay, hold on, Nick.

03:41:07.900 I'm gonna send it to you.

03:41:08.900 One sec.

03:41:09.900 Give me just one sec.

03:41:10.900 I'll address...

03:41:11.900 I'll address...

03:41:12.900 Puffy underscore Vegas donated $100.

03:41:15.900 Please have the girls rate me. 1.00

03:41:16.900 Oh, shit. 0.99

03:41:17.900 We still have to do that. 1.00

03:41:18.900 Ten.

03:41:19.900 Okay, we'll do that in...

03:41:20.900 We'll do that in a sec, Puffy.

03:41:21.900 I'll engage.

03:41:22.900 Can you pull that up?

03:41:23.900 Yeah.

03:41:24.900 Okay.

03:41:25.900 Just pull up the image.

03:41:26.900 So, this is my view.

03:41:27.900 This is my thing on makeup, right?

03:41:29.900 Uh...

03:41:30.900 Can't vary.

03:41:31.900 Hmm?

03:41:32.900 Can I call the image?

03:41:34.900 There you go.

03:41:35.900 There you go.

03:41:36.900 There you go.

03:41:37.900 There you go.

03:41:39.900 Make a...

03:41:40.900 Okay.

03:41:41.900 So, that's the horde of people who are pro makeup, and then that's me over there.

03:41:49.900 Wait.

03:41:50.900 Okay, that's not, like...

03:41:51.900 Ignore the speech bubble.

03:41:52.900 I don't know.

03:41:53.900 Is that the original one?

03:41:54.900 I think there's different varieties, Nick.

03:41:56.900 You might have pulled up the wrong one.

03:41:59.900 Sorry.

03:42:00.900 Yeah, it's...

03:42:01.900 Here, scroll down.

03:42:02.900 Scroll down, Nick.

03:42:03.900 It's like...

03:42:06.900 Here, I'll find it.

03:42:08.900 I'll find it.

03:42:09.900 Hold on.

03:42:12.900 Yeah, but I'm just gonna send it to you. 1.00

03:42:15.900 Fuck. 1.00

03:42:16.900 Oh, my God. 1.00

03:42:17.900 Just pull down...

03:42:18.900 Can you just show us the page, and I'll just...

03:42:22.900 It's the me one?

03:42:24.900 Yeah.

03:42:25.900 Also, my husband does prefer me without makeup, so I also don't really wear makeup because

03:42:33.900 of that, too.

03:42:34.900 It's kind of low quality.

03:42:35.900 Okay, that's me when it comes to makeup.

03:42:37.900 Okay, so...

03:42:39.900 You object to my view on makeup.

03:42:43.900 What is your sense of my view?

03:42:46.900 I think that your view is saying that, you know, maybe you think it's unfair.

03:42:53.900 That woman can wear makeup, and we can look all cute, but a guy, you're just...

03:42:59.900 You have to go all natty, you know?

03:43:02.900 So maybe you're envious of that.

03:43:04.900 I'm not envious, but there...

03:43:06.900 So, I mean, I have a couple different positions on this.

03:43:09.900 My first position to address the actual thing that you just said was, there is certainly

03:43:14.900 a double standard.

03:43:15.900 So, men are expected to accept women's usage of makeup and not have any objections to it,

03:43:22.900 despite how significantly it can totally transform how you actually look.

03:43:29.900 Whereas, I bet most women who... 1.00

03:43:33.900 There's no second thought when it comes to applying a full face of makeup, will very quickly

03:43:38.900 judge a man who wears a toupee, who wears a cap, but he's actually bald.

03:43:42.900 Who would judge a man for wearing makeup, even though I don't recommend it.

03:43:47.900 You would judge a man for wearing lifts in his shoes.

03:43:52.900 You would judge him for doing any sort of comparable or similar deception or fraud or veneer

03:43:58.900 or facade when it came to his physical appearance.

03:44:01.900 You would certainly judge him.

03:44:02.900 You would think he's insecure if he were to change, like, use something fake to enhance

03:44:10.900 his physical appearance. 0.97

03:44:11.900 Like, if a guy showed up to a date wearing a muscle suit or some shit, you'd be like, 1.00

03:44:15.900 the fuck? 1.00

03:44:16.900 But women will wear push-up bras or even fake... 1.00

03:44:19.900 They'll stuff their bras. 1.00

03:44:20.900 They'll wear, like, butt pads and shit. 1.00

03:44:23.900 You know. 1.00

03:44:24.900 Okay, so I think...

03:44:26.900 Those...

03:44:27.900 What are the waist trainers? 1.00

03:44:28.900 What those fucking things are? 0.99

03:44:30.900 Those things? 1.00

03:44:31.900 Okay, so I...

03:44:32.900 And men are supposed to accept your deception and your deceit, whereas...

03:44:35.900 That's just too deep.

03:44:36.900 That's just literally too deep for me.

03:44:38.900 It's just makeup.

03:44:39.900 I could see if it was, like, loads and tons of makeup, but I'm like, it's just...

03:44:45.900 I don't understand it.

03:44:47.900 Makeup compared to, like, a butt pad also. 0.96

03:44:49.900 Right. 0.93

03:44:50.900 Like...

03:44:51.900 Well, I'm just giving some examples.

03:44:52.900 Bad stuff in the bras.

03:44:53.900 I'm just giving some examples. 0.98

03:44:54.900 I mean, if you don't got boobies, rock your little boobies. 1.00

03:44:56.900 Okay. 0.89

03:44:57.900 But...

03:44:58.900 Women employ plastic surgery also. 1.00

03:44:59.900 Okay, wait.

03:45:00.900 Let's go back to makeup.

03:45:01.900 Like, if a man got... 0.99

03:45:02.900 If a man got bicep implants, you would fucking think it's ridiculous. 0.99

03:45:05.900 I would especially think that's ridiculous. 1.00

03:45:07.900 Most women would be like, he's a fucking clown, but you guys are putting that in your chest. 1.00

03:45:12.900 Okay, but you could work out for bigger biceps. 1.00

03:45:14.900 True. 0.99

03:45:15.900 I can't work out for bigger tits. 1.00

03:45:16.900 I know. 0.99

03:45:17.900 That's why you gotta accept it.

03:45:18.900 And, listen, I'm... 0.89

03:45:21.900 I think small boobs are great. 0.99

03:45:23.900 I don't give a fuck about boobs. 1.00

03:45:24.900 Well, look, big boobs are great. 1.00

03:45:26.900 Small boobs are great. 1.00

03:45:27.900 Don't give a fuck. 1.00

03:45:28.900 Okay, but, like, see... 1.00

03:45:29.900 I'm part of the small city committee.

03:45:31.900 I'm part of the small city committee.

03:45:32.900 I respect his opinions.

03:45:34.900 Okay.

03:45:35.900 And my husband has seen me without makeup many...

03:45:38.900 Yeah.

03:45:39.900 I mean, for years.

03:45:40.900 Yeah.

03:45:41.900 And he prefers me like that.

03:45:43.900 Or very, very minimal.

03:45:44.900 Sure.

03:45:45.900 Maybe just a little mascara and, like, tinted blush or something.

03:45:47.900 Mm-hmm.

03:45:48.900 Mm-hmm.

03:45:49.900 And so, that's why I say 99% of the time I don't wear it.

03:45:54.900 But I don't think there's anything wrong or it's really not that deep if a girl wears makeup 1.00

03:45:59.900 because it literally goes back centuries.

03:46:00.900 Mm-hmm.

03:46:01.900 Again, if she's trying to...

03:46:04.900 If she's trying to completely...

03:46:06.900 What's the word?

03:46:08.900 If she's trying to completely modify how she appears with makeup and, like, change her appearance, then, yeah. 0.98

03:46:15.900 You know, if she's going out every single day like that, you know, and she's completely covered up, then... 1.00

03:46:20.900 Mm-hmm.

03:46:21.900 I can see that being a facade.

03:46:22.900 But, like, if you look at a girl, even when she has makeup or not, you'll know she's pretty.

03:46:28.900 Let me ask you a question.

03:46:30.900 In all instances, if makeup didn't make you look better, regardless of how minimal the makeup you apply is, if it didn't make you look better in some capacity, why would you otherwise wear it?

03:46:43.900 Because we enjoy the process, and when we were little, we had dolls, and we played with makeup, and we played with our mom's makeup.

03:46:49.900 You would...

03:46:50.900 It goes back to our childhood.

03:46:51.900 Just like you played with cars, we played with makeup and dolls.

03:46:55.900 It's literally ingrained in us to, like, beauty-related things.

03:46:59.900 Let me add that to my list of other things when it comes to my daughter.

03:47:02.900 She doesn't get makeup until she's 18.

03:47:04.900 I would also argue a lot of people...

03:47:06.900 I think your wife would disagree.

03:47:08.900 Use it as an art form.

03:47:09.900 I don't care.

03:47:10.900 Like, people that do, like, a lot of makeup.

03:47:12.900 You know what I mean?

03:47:13.900 Hold on.

03:47:14.900 Hold on.

03:47:15.900 Hold on.

03:47:16.900 She disagrees?

03:47:17.900 She's not gonna... 1.00

03:47:18.900 My wife isn't gonna disagree with me on this.

03:47:19.900 I can guarantee you that.

03:47:20.900 I don't think you can guarantee something that hasn't happened yet.

03:47:23.900 Well, I can...

03:47:26.900 No, I can guarantee it because, I mean, the woman who I would marry would probably share my sentiments on this.

03:47:34.900 Like, I'm...

03:47:35.900 Typically, I'm not dating women who cake on makeup. 1.00

03:47:38.900 Typically, the women I date wear minimal or no makeup. 0.87

03:47:43.900 So, yeah.

03:47:44.900 You have to think about it.

03:47:45.900 Like, every movie, like, you see, like, the woman has makeup on and she's seen as beautiful.

03:47:50.900 Even, like, you think about, like, the geishas with, like, the white paint on their skin. 1.00

03:47:53.900 That shit looks fucking terrible. 1.00

03:47:55.900 I'm sorry. 1.00

03:47:56.900 I'm just gonna say it.

03:47:57.900 In their culture.

03:47:58.900 In their culture. 1.00

03:47:59.900 That's dog shit. 1.00

03:48:00.900 You're being disrespectful. 1.00

03:48:01.900 I'm not being...

03:48:02.900 It's not disrespectful to think that that level... 0.94

03:48:05.900 To talk crap about somebody's culture? 0.98

03:48:06.900 That's not talking crap about somebody's culture. 0.99

03:48:08.900 It is. 0.97

03:48:09.900 That's me.

03:48:10.900 No, it's not.

03:48:11.900 Yes, it is.

03:48:12.900 How is it talking?

03:48:13.900 I don't object. 0.99

03:48:14.900 Aren't geishas prostitutes? 1.00

03:48:16.900 Okay, fine. 1.00

03:48:17.900 Sorry, Japanese people. 1.00

03:48:18.900 Yes, prostitution is terrible, whatever term you apply to it. 0.99

03:48:21.900 My husband's Japanese. 0.98

03:48:22.900 Cool.

03:48:25.900 Anyways, back to my point.

03:48:26.900 Hold on.

03:48:27.900 Hold on.

03:48:28.900 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

03:48:29.900 One sec.

03:48:30.900 So, I'm not allowed to be critical of somebody else's culture?

03:48:34.900 No, you...

03:48:35.900 Let me ask you a question.

03:48:36.900 So, let's talk about culture, right?

03:48:38.900 Do you object to the Saudi government disallowing women to drive cars?

03:48:44.900 Do I object to it?

03:48:46.900 Do you think women should be allowed to drive cars in Saudi Arabia? 1.00

03:48:49.900 Yes.

03:48:50.900 How...

03:48:51.900 Hold on.

03:48:52.900 You're being very dis... 0.70

03:48:53.900 What is make...

03:48:54.900 You're comparing makeup to driving a car?

03:48:56.900 No, what do you think about women who are required to wear hijabs? 1.00

03:49:01.900 I don't really have an opinion about that.

03:49:04.900 You don't have an opinion?

03:49:06.900 No, I don't.

03:49:07.900 I don't really understand the culture at all.

03:49:09.900 So, let's...

03:49:10.900 I'm not making a judgment either way, but I'm asking you.

03:49:12.900 You have no...

03:49:14.900 Let's say a woman doesn't have the right to dress as she wants in certain cultures. 1.00

03:49:18.900 Okay.

03:49:20.900 Yes.

03:49:21.900 Well, hold on.

03:49:22.900 You're being very disrespectful of Muslim culture. 1.00

03:49:24.900 I'm saying that you're going, oh, that's ridiculous. 1.00

03:49:27.900 Like... 0.97

03:49:28.900 Yeah, it looks like...

03:49:29.900 I'm sorry. 0.63

03:49:30.900 It looks like clown.

03:49:31.900 He's saying how it looks.

03:49:32.900 I don't think it looks...

03:49:33.900 It looks weird, okay?

03:49:34.900 Okay, but...

03:49:35.900 And I think they're...

03:49:36.900 It's like the white...

03:49:38.900 Yeah, I get it.

03:49:39.900 It's cultural...

03:49:40.900 It's white face, okay?

03:49:41.900 Cultural appropriation.

03:49:42.900 Well, like...

03:49:43.900 Asians, especially Chinese, do.

03:49:45.900 I know.

03:49:46.900 The more pale your skin is, the more beautiful you are.

03:49:48.900 I'm being facetious.

03:49:49.900 Am I going to get canceled for this?

03:49:50.900 Anyways...

03:49:51.900 Is this cancelable conversation?

03:49:52.900 What?

03:49:53.900 Huh?

03:49:54.900 Huh?

03:49:55.900 That actually wasn't even my point, though.

03:49:56.900 What I was just saying was that...

03:49:57.900 No, but you wanted to like virtue signal, Brian.

03:50:00.400 That's very disrespectful.

03:50:01.900 First off, I'm...

03:50:02.900 Let me show some respect to the Japanese culture.

03:50:04.900 Nick, can you pull up the bowing video?

03:50:06.900 Yeah. 0.99

03:50:07.900 Let me show some fucking respect. 0.98

03:50:08.900 I actually... 0.99

03:50:09.900 You know, my wife will... 1.00

03:50:11.900 This is my future wife here. 0.95

03:50:12.900 Okay, go ahead.

03:50:13.900 Play it.

03:50:16.900 I want to bow.

03:50:17.900 I want a woman who will bow for me. 0.99

03:50:18.900 I very much...

03:50:19.900 I have immense respect for the...

03:50:21.900 For Japanese culture, for Asian culture. 0.99

03:50:24.900 I'm...

03:50:25.900 I want to, you know, get...

03:50:28.900 You know, I'd like a woman to bow for me. 1.00

03:50:31.900 Look at that.

03:50:32.900 Attentive.

03:50:33.900 Getting me a drink.

03:50:35.900 Oh, no.

03:50:36.900 She's wearing makeup.

03:50:37.900 Right.

03:50:38.900 Eh, she can get rid of it. 1.00

03:50:40.900 You know, it's okay.

03:50:41.900 All right, look.

03:50:42.900 She's stirring my noodles.

03:50:43.900 Look at that.

03:50:44.900 She's great.

03:50:45.900 Look at the bow again.

03:50:46.900 Let's get ready for the...

03:50:47.900 You know the tricks they do for hooded eyes?

03:50:49.900 What?

03:50:50.900 I'm talking about the bow. 1.00

03:50:52.900 Look at that fucking bow. 1.00

03:50:53.900 That was huge. 1.00

03:50:54.900 See, I have...

03:50:55.900 I want a woman who will bow. 1.00

03:50:57.900 That's crazy.

03:50:58.900 Okay, so anyway...

03:50:59.900 Trying my best, guys.

03:51:01.900 I have immense respect for the Japanese culture, okay?

03:51:04.900 I do too.

03:51:05.900 I married one.

03:51:06.900 I just think...

03:51:07.900 Aesthetically, I think the geisha look doesn't...

03:51:09.900 I don't like it.

03:51:10.900 Yeah, I mean...

03:51:11.900 It's Japanese.

03:51:12.900 I'm sorry.

03:51:13.900 It doesn't look good.

03:51:14.900 That makeup.

03:51:15.900 I don't think it looks that great either, but my point was...

03:51:17.900 Whoa, stop disrespecting their culture.

03:51:19.900 Rude.

03:51:20.900 But see, my choice of words were different than your choice of words.

03:51:23.900 What did I say?

03:51:24.900 Maybe I was a bit abrasive.

03:51:25.900 Whatever.

03:51:26.900 That was the only thing I was trying to say.

03:51:28.900 Was I?

03:51:29.900 A little... 1.00

03:51:30.900 Are geishas not prostitutes? 1.00

03:51:31.900 I thought geishas were prostitutes. 1.00

03:51:34.900 Isn't that... 1.00

03:51:35.900 Hold on.

03:51:36.900 Am I wrong here?

03:51:37.900 Someone in the chat's like...

03:51:38.900 No.

03:51:39.900 Or sent a chat...

03:51:40.900 Geishas... 1.00

03:51:41.900 Geish? 0.96

03:51:43.900 Oh, okay.

03:51:44.900 I thought...

03:51:45.900 Okay.

03:51:46.900 Hostess trained to entertain men with conversation, dance, and song? 0.96

03:51:49.900 What?

03:51:50.900 Were they not historically known as...

03:51:54.900 Was...

03:51:55.900 Okay.

03:51:56.900 I could be...

03:51:57.900 I...

03:51:58.900 Hold on.

03:52:04.900 Okay. 1.00

03:52:05.900 I don't know the fucking history on this shit. 1.00

03:52:06.900 Whatever. 1.00

03:52:07.900 Okay.

03:52:08.900 Let's continue.

03:52:09.900 Go ahead.

03:52:10.900 What?

03:52:11.900 I don't even know what...

03:52:12.900 We were talking about makeup.

03:52:15.900 Okay.

03:52:19.900 Can you...

03:52:20.900 Why don't you look up on your computer?

03:52:22.900 How far back does makeup go? 1.00

03:52:26.900 Hmm.

03:52:27.900 Okay.

03:52:28.900 Here.

03:52:29.900 Okay.

03:52:30.900 Okay.

03:52:31.900 So...

03:52:32.900 I see what you're saying.

03:52:33.900 That there's really...

03:52:34.900 There's nothing negative about it.

03:52:37.900 Okay.

03:52:38.900 So...

03:52:39.900 Okay.

03:52:40.900 War goes back...

03:52:41.900 I already know where your brain's going.

03:52:42.900 Yeah.

03:52:43.900 So war goes back very far.

03:52:44.900 Does that mean that that's a good thing?

03:52:47.900 We've been warring with each other.

03:52:50.900 Humans have been warring even before makeup existed.

03:52:56.900 Does that mean that that's the natural...

03:52:58.900 Well, I shouldn't say...

03:52:59.900 I don't think that's a very good parallel.

03:53:00.900 I don't want to use the word natural.

03:53:02.900 Do you think that that means that it's a desirable thing?

03:53:05.900 I would say that if a woman chooses to enhance her beauty... 1.00

03:53:15.900 Yeah.

03:53:16.900 With makeup, she's not lying to you.

03:53:20.900 She's not being a facade.

03:53:22.900 Because you could easily just ask her on a date and ask her to not wear makeup or take her swimming.

03:53:28.900 Oh, my God.

03:53:29.900 We've got to find a makeup video where I'm going on makeup. 0.93

03:53:31.900 I actually...

03:53:32.900 Oh, I think I added one, Nick.

03:53:34.900 It's in the makeup tab.

03:53:35.900 We'll look at it.

03:53:36.900 So, you said it's not lying and it's not a facade.

03:53:39.900 So...

03:53:42.900 Nick, let me...

03:53:43.900 I think I showed you the video that I was wanting to pull up.

03:53:46.900 You got it, Nick?

03:53:47.900 You're going to show an extreme transformation.

03:53:49.900 So you're going to show...

03:53:50.900 I am going to show an extreme transformation.

03:53:51.900 That's right.

03:53:53.900 It's a blonde lady. 1.00

03:53:55.900 I'm pretty sure it's in the makeup tab.

03:53:58.900 I don't know.

03:53:59.900 Oh, it's on the TikToks.

03:54:00.900 So there's like a bunch and then you want me to pick one, right?

03:54:05.900 It's the first.

03:54:06.900 It should be the last tab in the makeup tab. 0.79

03:54:08.900 Yeah.

03:54:09.900 And then which girl was it?

03:54:11.900 I...

03:54:12.900 What do you mean?

03:54:13.900 Which one was it?

03:54:14.900 Because there's like a bunch of...

03:54:15.900 Well, it should be the last one that I added to the makeup tab.

03:54:19.900 Yeah, that's TikTok.

03:54:21.900 Wait, you're...

03:54:22.900 I have a pause.

03:54:23.900 You're getting up in...

03:54:24.900 I have to be.

03:54:25.900 Okay.

03:54:26.900 We'll have to put a pause on the...

03:54:28.900 Okay.

03:54:29.900 Did you find it?

03:54:30.900 He's...

03:54:33.900 Okay.

03:54:34.900 Do you need to go and then we'll...

03:54:35.900 I can take it really fast.

03:54:36.900 Okay.

03:54:37.900 Okay.

03:54:38.900 Okay.

03:54:39.900 All right.

03:54:40.900 It's kind of interrupting, but all right.

03:54:41.900 So you wouldn't date a woman who wears makeup? 0.99

03:54:46.900 Depends how much.

03:54:47.900 Preferably minimal or no makeup though.

03:54:49.900 Yeah.

03:54:50.900 So why would you be concerned about other women wearing makeup?

03:54:54.900 Why would you judge them? 0.99

03:54:55.900 Frankly, I don't give a fuck. 0.98

03:54:56.900 You can do whatever you want, but like if we're having a conversation... 0.99

03:54:59.900 Like if we're trying to have a conversation about it, like my view on it is that it is...

03:55:07.900 Deceptive.

03:55:08.900 Deceptive.

03:55:09.900 Yes.

03:55:10.900 You can get around it all you want, but if it didn't change your appearance for the

03:55:15.900 better in some capacity, you wouldn't wear it.

03:55:19.900 I wore it because I'm on camera.

03:55:22.900 As of today.

03:55:23.900 Do you think...

03:55:24.900 Yeah, but let me ask you a question.

03:55:25.900 Mm-hmm.

03:55:26.900 What...

03:55:27.900 Okay.

03:55:28.900 I'll engage that.

03:55:29.900 So...

03:55:30.900 Do you think most women who wear makeup only do so when they're on camera? 0.99

03:55:36.900 Um...

03:55:37.900 Like, you know, women who go to school, go to work... 0.99

03:55:40.900 I don't really concern myself about that.

03:55:41.900 Who are never on camera.

03:55:42.900 I'm just talking about myself.

03:55:43.900 I'm just talking about myself.

03:55:44.900 Right, but I'm not...

03:55:45.900 This conversation is not strictly about women who are invited onto podcasts or on videos.

03:55:58.900 What is your question again?

03:55:59.900 I'm sorry.

03:56:00.900 What is your...

03:56:03.900 What's your question on this?

03:56:04.900 He's saying that makeup is deceptive.

03:56:06.900 And he'd prefer a girl with no makeup or minimal makeup. 0.90

03:56:09.900 Um...

03:56:16.900 I know you...

03:56:17.900 You guys are probably all super triggered by this.

03:56:19.900 Just say...

03:56:20.900 Go ahead, say.

03:56:21.900 I'm not triggered by it.

03:56:22.900 I...

03:56:23.900 I'm anti-makeup.

03:56:24.900 I think...

03:56:25.900 I'm sure you guys are very against that.

03:56:27.900 I would say that, like, wearing a lot of makeup...

03:56:29.900 To knit.

03:56:31.900 I got a video that I'm triggered on.

03:56:34.900 What's that?

03:56:35.900 I got a video that I'm triggered on.

03:56:36.900 Here, while I read...

03:56:37.900 Maddie, can you read this chat here?

03:56:39.900 Hold on.

03:56:41.900 This one.

03:56:42.900 Mailing it in.

03:56:43.900 Mailing it in.

03:56:44.900 To deliver a performance without commitment or effort with lackluster results.

03:56:49.900 That is what that means.

03:56:51.900 But Brian is awesome, so I don't get why anyone said that about him.

03:56:55.900 Ignore the haters, Brian.

03:56:57.900 They are jealous of your success.

03:56:58.900 Yeah, I thought it had a negative commentation.

03:57:00.900 Wait, what?

03:57:01.900 But the rest of the comments seemed so positive.

03:57:03.900 I know that's what confused me.

03:57:04.900 Maybe it's, like, normally...

03:57:05.900 Did you find the makeup video?

03:57:06.900 I was confused by it, but...

03:57:08.900 Okay.

03:57:09.900 Not yet.

03:57:10.900 Nick, do you have the video?

03:57:11.900 It's a blonde woman. 0.97

03:57:14.900 Can I just show you the tab of the TikToks?

03:57:18.900 Yeah.

03:57:19.900 You can even drag it over here so I can see it.

03:57:21.900 Okay.

03:57:22.900 You don't need to minimize that.

03:57:24.900 Or actually, yeah, you do.

03:57:25.900 Okay.

03:57:26.900 Hold on, guys.

03:57:27.900 We're getting it pulled up.

03:57:28.900 Nope.

03:57:29.900 Okay, here.

03:57:30.900 No, no, no.

03:57:31.900 Leave it there.

03:57:32.900 Leave it there.

03:57:33.900 I'm gonna direct you.

03:57:34.900 Okay.

03:57:35.900 Makeup tab.

03:57:39.900 I think it's the top, the one above it.

03:57:42.900 No, no, no.

03:57:43.900 Nope.

03:57:44.900 Nope.

03:57:45.900 Nope.

03:57:46.900 It's the second to last.

03:57:49.900 Nope.

03:57:50.900 Second to last.

03:57:51.900 Second to last.

03:57:52.900 Like, down here?

03:57:53.900 Yeah.

03:57:54.900 Oh, okay, yeah.

03:57:55.900 All right.

03:57:56.900 I...

03:57:57.900 Can you click it so I can make sure?

03:57:58.900 Can you click it?

03:57:59.900 Yeah.

03:58:00.900 Yep, that's it.

03:58:01.900 Okay.

03:58:02.900 Here, just bring it over, so...

03:58:05.900 Okay.

03:58:06.900 So, we're gonna look at this video.

03:58:08.900 This is a pretty substantial transformation.

03:58:11.900 I don't think it's, like, one of those super extreme ones.

03:58:14.900 I've seen some really extreme ones.

03:58:16.900 Go ahead.

03:58:17.900 Audio or no audio?

03:58:18.900 No audio.

03:58:19.900 Just go ahead. 1.00

03:58:30.900 Damn. 1.00

03:58:31.900 That's too fucking much. 1.00

03:58:33.900 Yeah, okay. 0.98

03:58:34.900 Now, play it again.

03:58:35.900 Play it again.

03:58:36.900 Okay.

03:58:37.900 Okay.

03:58:38.900 Actually, hit pause.

03:58:40.900 Hit pause on that.

03:58:41.900 Go back to the very beginning.

03:58:43.900 Uh...

03:58:44.900 Don't play it.

03:58:45.900 Let's see her face.

03:58:46.900 Okay.

03:58:47.900 There.

03:58:48.900 Now, scroll...

03:58:49.900 Just scroll to the very end.

03:58:51.900 Or just put it at the very end.

03:58:53.900 So we can see the...

03:58:54.900 Nope.

03:58:55.900 I'm sorry.

03:58:59.900 That's... 0.99

03:59:00.900 That's fucking an insane transformation. 1.00

03:59:02.900 That is... 1.00

03:59:03.900 That...

03:59:04.900 Do you deny that that's totally different?

03:59:07.900 She looks totally different.

03:59:08.900 She beat her face. 0.74

03:59:10.900 It looks good, though.

03:59:11.900 Tell Nick to pull up...

03:59:12.900 Tell Nick to pull up my makeup.

03:59:13.900 Yeah, Nick.

03:59:14.900 Can you pull up cues?

03:59:15.900 Did you send it to the Instagram?

03:59:16.900 It's in a DM, yeah.

03:59:17.900 You can kind of tell if a girl's wearing a lot or not.

03:59:19.900 It's in a DM.

03:59:20.900 Yeah, give me a second.

03:59:22.900 The girls are silent because they know it's true. 0.66

03:59:25.900 I said something.

03:59:27.900 A full face and, like, slight makeup is different.

03:59:30.900 Yeah, you can tell.

03:59:31.900 But it categorizes a whole.

03:59:32.900 Do you admit...

03:59:33.900 So, if I can admit that that's, like, a pretty extreme transformation, can you admit that it's a scale?

03:59:37.900 Yeah.

03:59:38.900 So, like, perhaps, like, it's not all the way over here, but maybe it's in the middle, right?

03:59:43.900 Okay.

03:59:44.900 So, it's enough to create a...

03:59:47.900 From...

03:59:48.900 If we're talking about dating, right?

03:59:49.900 It might be enough to be like, oh, she's a no, but, like, the makeup could put her over into the, like, I think she's attractive. 1.00

03:59:58.900 Yeah.

03:59:59.900 Okay.

04:00:00.900 Deception.

04:00:01.900 Boom.

04:00:02.900 Checkmate.

04:00:03.900 You could also work out and look a lot better, too.

04:00:04.900 I agree.

04:00:05.900 Like, you'll see, like, a woman who's overweight or obese spend time putting on makeup. 1.00

04:00:16.900 And I think you'd be much better suited by hitting the gym.

04:00:22.900 But what's easier?

04:00:23.900 I agree.

04:00:24.900 That's a very good point.

04:00:26.900 Makeup, you can instantly transform yourself.

04:00:29.900 You can instantly add one, two points to your attractiveness.

04:00:32.900 Yeah.

04:00:33.900 They don't want to put in that sweat equity.

04:00:36.900 Yeah.

04:00:37.900 Do you have the video?

04:00:39.900 Oh, oh, it's cute.

04:00:41.900 It is me. 1.00

04:00:42.900 Oh, shit. 0.99

04:00:43.900 I think there should really be limitations on how much makeup women can wear. 1.00

04:00:47.900 I mean, this shit is sorcery. 1.00

04:00:49.900 It's deception. 1.00

04:00:50.900 It's manipulation.

04:00:51.900 It's catfishing.

04:00:52.900 Women give themselves a whole bunch of features that they don't have. 1.00

04:00:55.900 Y'all give yourselves eyebrows y'all don't have, cheekbones y'all don't have, lashes y'all don't have, lips y'all don't have,

04:01:01.900 skin y'all don't have.

04:01:03.900 And then when y'all take it off, y'all look smeared.

04:01:05.900 I've never seen human beings look like you drew them on a piece of paper and then you just erase all the most prominent features in certain areas and that's what you're left with.

04:01:14.900 But that's how y'all look.

04:01:15.900 A lot of y'all be looking sickly without it because you wear it so much and you wear too much of it.

04:01:19.900 Y'all be looking like y'all either have a severe cold, the flu or the suds.

04:01:24.900 That's legit a turn off.

04:01:26.900 When you meet a woman, you see her face.

04:01:28.900 That's what you're attracted to initially, that face that you see.

04:01:31.900 When y'all have on this makeup and then you take it off and we realize that that's a whole made up face that you just put on top of what that is under it.

04:01:37.900 That's scary.

04:01:38.900 That's scary. 0.99

04:01:39.900 How the fuck is that? 0.98

04:01:40.900 Not grounds for prosecution. 0.98

04:01:41.900 Y'all should be subject to legal action.

04:01:43.900 I think there should.

04:01:45.900 But you just call the woman.

04:01:47.900 Dude, that's so basic.

04:01:48.900 He wants to criminalize.

04:01:50.900 Q, you want to criminalize women? 1.00

04:01:54.900 Listen, what we just saw was grounds for what I just said.

04:01:57.900 Okay.

04:01:58.900 That fits the criteria for exactly what I'm explaining in the video.

04:02:01.900 It should be a crime.

04:02:02.900 You should go to prison.

04:02:04.900 Can I ask you something?

04:02:05.900 I'm kidding.

04:02:06.900 In that video?

04:02:07.900 Yes.

04:02:08.900 Was there a filter on your face?

04:02:09.900 The original filter.

04:02:10.900 It's called the original filter.

04:02:11.900 Still a filter.

04:02:12.900 It's called the original filter.

04:02:13.900 It kind of smoothed out your face a little bit.

04:02:15.900 It smooths out your skin.

04:02:16.900 Yeah, but it's called the original filter.

04:02:18.900 Dang.

04:02:19.900 You should have raw-dogged that video so you can really get the essence of your message.

04:02:24.900 That's not makeup.

04:02:26.900 That doesn't undermine my message either, nor does it eliminate.

04:02:28.900 It is a little bit.

04:02:29.900 That's kind of what makeup does to us.

04:02:30.900 It smooths out our face.

04:02:31.900 It gives y'all a face y'all don't have.

04:02:33.900 That filter gave you the smoothness that you don't have.

04:02:36.900 I don't have that smoothness?

04:02:38.900 No.

04:02:39.900 You have smoothness?

04:02:40.900 Oh, okay.

04:02:41.900 Thank you.

04:02:42.900 I appreciate it.

04:02:43.900 There we go.

04:02:44.900 She just said it.

04:02:45.900 You have smoothness?

04:02:46.900 But not to that degree.

04:02:47.900 So then there's no difference.

04:02:48.900 You tried it, but it's not really a difference.

04:02:49.900 No, I did it.

04:02:50.900 I didn't try.

04:02:51.900 No, you tried it.

04:02:52.900 There's no difference.

04:02:53.900 No, because you are a filter and your message was literally to be unfiltered.

04:02:55.900 At the end of the day, at the end of the day, makeup is sorcery like I say it.

04:02:59.900 So are filters.

04:03:00.900 We should get rid of filters then.

04:03:01.900 We should get rid of filters.

04:03:02.900 Yeah, we should get rid of filters.

04:03:03.900 Yeah.

04:03:04.900 I do a lot of videos without filters.

04:03:06.900 Yeah.

04:03:07.900 So you should have did it without a filter.

04:03:08.900 I'm just saying, to really get a whole essence of your message, you should have

04:03:11.900 did it without a filter.

04:03:12.900 Nah, I think they got the gist of it.

04:03:13.900 It got enough likes.

04:03:14.900 It went viral.

04:03:15.900 I got you though.

04:03:16.900 I kind of got you.

04:03:17.900 There's certainly a difference though when, for example, could we make this argument

04:03:23.900 of like, let's say someone's involved in a theatrical production and that person's a male.

04:03:27.900 And in the theatrical production, typically they apply eyeliner even to men.

04:03:32.900 They'll put on makeup.

04:03:34.900 Not even to change your face, but they do apply makeup in a theatrical production.

04:03:38.900 And we can almost extend this to, for example, you know, somebody who's creating content

04:03:45.900 online or involved in a film of some sort.

04:03:47.900 Now, I don't think cue using a filter in a non-romantic setting.

04:03:53.900 Like what I'm making an argument from these are women who were choosing to date. 0.98

04:03:59.900 These are women who we see on dating apps who are using filters, who are wearing makeup. 1.00

04:04:03.900 We go and meet them in person.

04:04:05.900 They're wearing makeup.

04:04:06.900 If, you know, if we're meeting organically in person, say that, you know, at a, not that

04:04:11.900 I recommend bars or nightclubs, but say you meet a girl at a bar or nightclub, she may

04:04:15.900 very well be wearing a full face of makeup.

04:04:18.900 So I don't think it's a totally fair comparison because cue was using a filter to like, when

04:04:25.900 he meets a girl on a first date, there is no filter.

04:04:29.900 Exactly.

04:04:30.900 He's not wearing any makeup.

04:04:31.900 Whereas if he meets a girl on a date, she's probably wearing makeup. 0.61

04:04:34.900 But that's the thing about online, right?

04:04:35.900 It's like, you don't like, we don't always see the raw footage when it's online.

04:04:41.900 You know, the funniest part about all this, my husband's probably at home laughing going,

04:04:45.900 I agree with you, Brian.

04:04:46.900 Cause our, my husband's not a fan of, of makeup either.

04:04:50.900 Maybe not to your degree.

04:04:52.900 He likes when I wear a little bit here and there, but he does prefer me without it.

04:04:56.900 I just don't get this whole, like, I'm sure like, okay.

04:05:01.900 If makeup didn't improve your physical appearance in some way, if it didn't do that, you wouldn't

04:05:08.900 wear it.

04:05:09.900 You already made that point.

04:05:10.900 And I said, we enjoy the process.

04:05:11.900 We enjoy the process.

04:05:12.900 We enjoy how it makes us feel like me when I'm like doing, if I do my makeup, like I

04:05:17.900 said, I do it like literally less than 10 times a year.

04:05:19.900 So when I, but when I do it though, it's kind of like when I'm doing my skincare, it's like,

04:05:24.900 I enjoy that time.

04:05:25.900 Maybe I put a podcast on me.

04:05:26.900 I put some music on.

04:05:27.900 I enjoy the art of it.

04:05:29.900 Like being able to go, Hmm, what kind of look do I want today?

04:05:33.900 You know, it's nice.

04:05:34.900 It's fun.

04:05:35.900 It's, it's enjoyable.

04:05:36.900 Okay.

04:05:37.900 That's, that's totally cool.

04:05:38.900 Your motivations aside, if we're speaking within a dating context, whatever your reasons

04:05:44.900 for doing it may be like, it is deceptive.

04:05:49.900 But don't we all do that on the first date?

04:05:51.900 Like, don't you want to put on your best look on your first date?

04:05:54.900 Like you're going to wear a shirt that like compliments your shoulders.

04:05:56.900 And like, you don't know about my first date.

04:05:58.900 I would assume that you put an effort.

04:06:01.900 I'm wearing sweatpants.

04:06:02.900 I'm wearing sweatpants and a flam.

04:06:03.900 Maybe you were like extra nice cologne.

04:06:05.900 Oh, I don't wear cologne either.

04:06:07.900 I, and I'll tell a girl, don't wear perfume. 1.00

04:06:09.900 That shit smells disgusting. 1.00

04:06:11.900 You're a bit extreme, but I'm, I'm high maintenance. 1.00

04:06:16.900 You're a bit extreme.

04:06:17.900 I would say you're low maintenance.

04:06:19.900 Technically.

04:06:20.900 Cause I'll be, I'll tell a girl, don't wear, don't wear perfume.

04:06:24.900 I don't know, man.

04:06:25.900 It doesn't smell.

04:06:26.900 I don't like the smell.

04:06:28.900 Okay.

04:06:29.900 That's, that's a different conversation.

04:06:30.900 Yeah.

04:06:31.900 That's different.

04:06:32.900 Um, but again, you should wear deodorants.

04:06:35.900 Fine.

04:06:36.900 I wear deodorant, but cologne.

04:06:38.900 No, that.

04:06:39.900 I just honestly think if you look at a woman, whether she's wearing makeup or not, you can,

04:06:44.900 for the most part, like, again, that example is really extreme, but for the most part, you

04:06:47.900 can tell like, okay, this woman has natural beauty or not. 0.79

04:06:50.900 Like if you look at me right now and go, I don't think you'd be pretty without makeup.

04:06:53.900 I think that you're delirious.

04:06:55.900 Well, that's not what I'm arguing, but see, it's, it's like trickery.

04:07:00.900 It's, it's deception because we make like snap instant assessments that are subconscious

04:07:09.900 even about somebody.

04:07:10.900 Oh, are they attractive?

04:07:11.900 Are they not attractive?

04:07:12.900 Are they not attractive?

04:07:13.900 Now, if we take like a decent, like a look, you know, we can sort of start sussing out.

04:07:18.900 Okay.

04:07:19.900 She's wearing makeup.

04:07:20.900 But I mean, again, we should, but like no amount of makeup can make a woman just go 1.00

04:07:25.900 from like, but ugly to just showed you one.

04:07:30.900 Okay.

04:07:31.900 Okay.

04:07:32.900 She was being a bit dramatic.

04:07:33.900 Like she was like, Oh, I'm making a funny face.

04:07:35.900 And she didn't have her hair done.

04:07:38.900 And she was being a little bit dramatic. 0.86

04:07:40.900 She was really showing her worst angles.

04:07:41.900 Like if you, if you do a video and it's like your worst angle and you're like making

04:07:45.900 a double chin and you're like doing all this crazy stuff.

04:07:47.900 Like, yeah, you might not look.

04:07:49.900 It's pretty bad.

04:07:50.900 If you put her, if without the makeup, you put her, if you do a before and after exact

04:07:56.900 same angle, lighting face, exact same.

04:08:00.900 It's night and day difference.

04:08:02.900 Yeah.

04:08:03.900 Some women, they go like, Oh, D I get it, but not, let's play the dentures. 1.00

04:08:08.900 Can you get, find the, it's in the makeup tab.

04:08:10.900 There's the dentures video.

04:08:12.900 That one's pretty crazy too.

04:08:15.900 So, I mean, you know, yeah, look, here's the thing, right?

04:08:22.900 The makeup industry is a, I looked this up.

04:08:25.900 The global cosmetic industry is a $500 billion a year industry.

04:08:30.900 It has a vested interest in keeping you essentially slaves to the paint, as I call it.

04:08:36.900 You're slaves to the paint.

04:08:38.900 You're going to fight for, you're, you're basically, this is like some, I'm not going

04:08:43.900 to do the matrix thing.

04:08:45.900 You're going to defend it because, uh, you know, you are, you're beholden to the paint.

04:08:54.900 I wouldn't say I'm beholden to the paint.

04:08:56.900 Cause I don't really wear it, but I know a lot of, a lot of women do. 1.00

04:08:59.900 And I don't think there's really anything.

04:09:01.900 The makeup industry, the cosmetics industry.

04:09:03.900 If you're going to be in a relationship with her, you're going to see her without makeup. 0.92

04:09:07.900 Eventually you're going to see her without makeup.

04:09:10.900 Okay.

04:09:11.900 Let me ask you guys a question.

04:09:12.900 Would you object to a man breaking up with a girl?

04:09:14.900 If say they went, they were dating for, they've been on 10 dates and then he didn't see her

04:09:19.900 without makeup until the 10th date.

04:09:21.900 And then he's like, Whoa, this woman is not as attractive as I thought she was fair or not

04:09:28.900 fair to break up with her.

04:09:32.900 I think it's fair.

04:09:33.900 Fair.

04:09:34.900 Oh, it's fair.

04:09:37.900 Don't, don't let me bully you just because I'm very convincing.

04:09:40.900 Don't let me bully you into a position that you don't actually hold.

04:09:44.900 I mean.

04:09:45.900 No, I think it's fair.

04:09:46.900 Yeah.

04:09:47.900 If you're not attracted to someone anymore, you're not attracted to someone anymore.

04:09:49.900 Let me ask you.

04:09:50.900 What about this?

04:09:51.900 Do you think that on dating apps, women should include at least one photo of themselves 0.72

04:09:56.900 without any filter or makeup?

04:09:58.900 Yes.

04:09:59.900 Yeah.

04:10:00.900 That seems fair.

04:10:01.900 And I do.

04:10:02.900 That seems fair.

04:10:03.900 Nick, do you have the video?

04:10:04.900 Go ahead.

04:10:05.900 No, stop it.

04:10:06.900 Just play it.

04:10:07.900 Yeah.

04:10:08.900 Nice body though.

04:10:14.900 Whoa.

04:10:15.900 It's a pretty big transformation.

04:10:17.900 I mean, and this is like, play it one more time.

04:10:21.900 Oh, look at all those recommended videos for the whatever podcast.

04:10:24.900 Once again, I mean, I don't like, you might want to claim that that's a glam.

04:10:34.900 I actually think that that's like scam.

04:10:37.900 I think that a lot of women would do that amount of makeup. 1.00

04:10:41.900 A lot of like, I don't think that's a crazy amount.

04:10:45.900 She's it's like full face. 0.98

04:10:47.900 Right.

04:10:48.900 But I don't like you'll see you'll meet a girl at a club wearing that much makeup.

04:10:52.900 Mm hmm.

04:10:53.900 You'll meet a girl in person wearing that much makeup. 0.88

04:10:55.900 Yeah.

04:10:56.900 With extensions and everything.

04:10:57.900 Yeah.

04:10:58.900 With all that.

04:10:59.900 I'm just saying.

04:11:00.900 Yeah.

04:11:01.900 But of course it's extreme.

04:11:02.900 Like some guys like like the full glam look.

04:11:05.900 You know what I mean?

04:11:06.900 So it's like teach their own.

04:11:08.900 Hey, teach their own.

04:11:09.900 Do you think it's fair if a woman gets with a guy and he had like a full six pack and then 0.96

04:11:14.900 he gained 50 pounds and she's like, you know what?

04:11:16.900 It's a bit different, but no, but I'm just saying because that's what you're working with.

04:11:21.900 Right.

04:11:22.900 As a guy would it be fair for her to dump him?

04:11:23.900 Yeah.

04:11:24.900 Yeah.

04:11:25.900 If she's not physically attracted to him anymore.

04:11:27.900 He it could be evidence of some sort of he's not being disciplined. 0.87

04:11:32.900 He's lazy.

04:11:33.900 The the circumstances of the initial physical attraction could change.

04:11:39.900 She's within a right to break up with him. 0.81

04:11:43.900 Honestly, I think it's not.

04:11:47.900 She also might not care.

04:11:48.900 She might not care.

04:11:49.900 If you're going on a on a date with a woman and it's like, you know, you only go on a 1.00

04:11:54.900 date or two and you've only seen her with makeup. 0.92

04:11:56.900 OK, it's not really going to affect you.

04:11:58.900 But like if you get into a relationship, then obviously you should see her without makeup. 1.00

04:12:02.900 And then at that point you can make an assessment that you want to make.

04:12:05.900 But I don't think you should, you know, deem women as like sorcerers because they decide

04:12:10.900 to wear a little bit of mascara and a little bit of blush like.

04:12:13.900 I don't think that's ever a negative thing.

04:12:16.900 OK, well, the thing is, though, is that when I was on dating apps and I no longer am.

04:12:22.900 I mean, I can't tell you the this wasn't just a rare thing.

04:12:27.900 Every single profile like I could pull up.

04:12:29.900 I think I still have like I don't use it, but I still have like one of the dating apps.

04:12:34.900 I think it's connected to Facebook or whatever.

04:12:37.900 It's the Facebook dating.

04:12:39.900 I could like pull up, pull out my phone and we could swipe together looking at the women. 1.00

04:12:43.900 The first photo you're going to see.

04:12:46.900 It's 99 percent of profiles filter or makeup or both.

04:12:55.900 And then maybe some of them have a photo that's not them in makeup or not filtered, but there will be more than I would argue more than 50 percent.

04:13:05.900 Their entire profile is filter and or makeup or both.

04:13:11.900 So this is something that's very like women. 1.00

04:13:13.900 You don't really.

04:13:14.900 I mean, look, there's dudes on dating apps, I guess, who use filters.

04:13:17.900 I think it's much less common than women, but it's like every single profile, every single photo.

04:13:26.900 I don't know what you actually look like.

04:13:28.900 And I've experienced it in person because I went out with a lot of my followers.

04:13:34.900 I'm not going to lie about that.

04:13:36.900 And the girl I see that I'm following and the girl that shows up, sometimes I don't even realize it's the same person.

04:13:43.900 So it's not the same level of attraction that I that I have when I see them when I'm following them.

04:13:48.900 And then I meet them in person.

04:13:49.900 It's completely different.

04:13:50.900 So that's what we're saying.

04:13:51.900 Like y'all saying, no, it's not as profound as we're making it.

04:13:55.900 But when you actually experience it, it occurs pretty often, if you ask me.

04:14:00.900 I honestly think like I do agree that the extreme measures is sorcery or scam, as you would say.

04:14:09.900 But would you have an issue with a woman who's already very beautiful and decides to wear natural makeup here and there? 0.99

04:14:16.900 Bender the offender donated $100. 0.92

04:14:18.900 That's a good question, Bender.

04:14:19.900 He has a question.

04:14:20.900 Who created and socially enforces the current beauty standard for women? 1.00

04:14:24.900 Starting with you.

04:14:26.900 Go ahead.

04:14:31.900 Starting with you?

04:14:32.900 Starting with me?

04:14:33.900 Yeah.

04:14:34.900 Oh, I was asking him a question, but it's fine.

04:14:36.900 Who created and socially enforces the current?

04:14:40.900 I don't know.

04:14:41.900 I can't answer that.

04:14:44.900 I don't know.

04:14:45.900 Let me ask you a question.

04:14:46.900 So, well, it's kind of changing now.

04:14:51.900 But if you had to point to an individual who has probably been responsible for a large swath, large swaths of women getting breast implants, lipo, and BBLs, a famous woman or a famous person, who is that individual?

04:15:13.900 Kim Kardashian.

04:15:14.900 Kim Kardashian.

04:15:15.900 Checkmate.

04:15:16.900 Checkmate.

04:15:19.900 No, I want to answer.

04:15:20.900 What?

04:15:21.900 He's saying women create. 0.99

04:15:23.900 He's answering the question.

04:15:24.900 He's saying women create. 1.00

04:15:25.900 Men don't ask for your fake nails and your lip filler and your caked on makeup and your fake tits and your BBLs. 1.00

04:15:34.900 We don't ask for that. 1.00

04:15:36.900 So, in other words, it's a sexual competition.

04:15:38.900 We're not asking for that.

04:15:39.900 But to answer your question, what would you say you said?

04:15:42.900 So, my question was like, would you have a problem if you were, say, dating a woman who's already very beautiful naturally without makeup?

04:15:54.900 But here and there, she decides to wear natural makeup when you're going out.

04:15:59.900 Maybe it's like socially.

04:16:01.900 Like, do you have a problem with that at all?

04:16:03.900 I've been in this situation plenty of times.

04:16:04.900 And honestly, I don't have a problem with it, but my preference is still for her natural beauty.

04:16:09.900 Checkmate.

04:16:10.900 Yeah, I don't have a problem with it, but my preference is, I prefer lip gloss.

04:16:13.900 Wait, how's that checkmate?

04:16:14.900 Because he just agreed that there's no problem with natural makeup, and that's what I've been advocating for, natural makeup.

04:16:21.900 Are you wearing natural makeup right now?

04:16:24.900 I'm a little spruced up.

04:16:25.900 This isn't normally how I would wear makeup if I were to.

04:16:29.900 I would ditch the eyeshadow for sure.

04:16:31.900 Like I said.

04:16:32.900 The last girl I was seriously dating, when I first met her, she wore makeup, like, a lot. 0.62

04:16:36.900 And then when I seen her naturally, you know, she started not wearing it because I was like, I don't, you look better without it.

04:16:42.900 Yeah, that's what happened.

04:16:43.900 And then there's been women who don't wear makeup, and as soon as they put it on, I actually think they look worse with makeup than they do without it. 0.97

04:16:50.900 Because I've gotten so used to seeing them without it, and their natural beauty is what I'm accustomed to. 0.99

04:16:55.900 So when they put it on, I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

04:16:57.900 Like, what did you just do? 0.99

04:16:58.900 Not all women know how to wear makeup either, or know how to apply it. 1.00

04:17:01.900 But my point is that, you know, if you think she's beautiful either way, then you're not going to have an issue with it.

04:17:13.900 Maybe not as much as Brian.

04:17:16.900 Okay.

04:17:17.900 Yeah, not as much as Brian.

04:17:18.900 I think Brian's a little bit more extreme.

04:17:20.900 But I understand, but I understand what he's saying.

04:17:23.900 I did hear you say, as I was walking to the restroom, that you would date a woman who wears a little bit of makeup or something like that. 0.97

04:17:33.900 Me?

04:17:34.900 Yeah.

04:17:35.900 You said it depends how much she's wearing, right?

04:17:40.900 My strong preference is to date a woman who wears minimal or no makeup. 0.97

04:17:46.900 Yeah, so minimal is fine.

04:17:47.900 So if she's wearing a bit of eyeliner, honestly, anything that goes on your face, don't like it.

04:17:52.900 Don't like it immediately.

04:17:54.900 If you're wearing a bit of mascara or eyeliner, that's not the crime of the century.

04:17:59.900 I don't like lipstick.

04:18:01.900 Gets on me.

04:18:02.900 Anything that can get on me, I don't like.

04:18:04.900 See, it's a preference.

04:18:05.900 It's a preference because some guys do like makeup.

04:18:09.900 Right, because they want to take the blue pill.

04:18:12.900 They want, ignorance is bliss.

04:18:15.900 But just because they like women with makeup doesn't negate the fact that they still like their women without it.

04:18:22.900 They want to believe the lie.

04:18:23.900 Because they can trick their minds into thinking that you're more attractive than you actually are.

04:18:29.900 Okay, so my husband's Asian, right?

04:18:33.900 His hair is flat.

04:18:35.900 Like straight and flat.

04:18:36.900 But when he puts it up, it just does something to me.

04:18:39.900 I just like when his hair is up a little bit.

04:18:42.900 It's not equivalent.

04:18:43.900 He puts his hair up.

04:18:44.900 It's not equivalent.

04:18:45.900 What are you?

04:18:46.900 That's not equivalent.

04:18:48.900 I'm reaching.

04:18:49.900 Facial attraction. 1.00

04:18:50.900 Facial attraction is something totally different than the hairstyle. 0.96

04:18:53.900 But it does.

04:18:54.900 It changes his look.

04:18:55.900 Yes, it does change the appearance.

04:18:56.900 I can see more of his forehead.

04:18:57.900 His forehead's cleared out.

04:18:58.900 You know, I like it.

04:19:00.900 And to me, it's a significant change.

04:19:04.900 To me, it's significant.

04:19:06.900 But that's his actual hair.

04:19:08.900 That comes down to styling.

04:19:10.900 It's different.

04:19:11.900 These are my lashes.

04:19:16.900 Okay.

04:19:17.900 Look, it ultimately comes down to by wearing makeup, you're depriving us of making an informed decision about your true attractiveness.

04:19:26.900 I don't deprive anybody.

04:19:27.900 They see me without makeup a lot.

04:19:29.900 Right.

04:19:30.900 But like, okay, if you are, let's say you're going to a party where you anticipate meeting a guy and you want to, you know, you're single, ready to mingle.

04:19:42.900 You're wearing a full face of makeup.

04:19:44.900 Well, you are changing your physical appearance and men are not able to like, especially if it's dark, throw in some alcohol.

04:19:55.900 You, you're certainly like by wearing makeup, you are changing your appearance.

04:20:00.900 I suppose men are so oblivious that they don't really notice like what she's wearing or what product she's wearing. 0.73

04:20:06.900 You're kind of debating on a topic that maybe you don't really understand makeup as well as women do.

04:20:11.900 So like we know, we know what we're wearing.

04:20:13.900 Yes.

04:20:14.900 Maybe you don't know exactly what we're wearing.

04:20:16.900 Right.

04:20:17.900 Which adds to the, which adds to the deception and the facade.

04:20:20.900 Sure.

04:20:21.900 I, like I said, I, I'm saying if you're going extreme, then yeah, that's, that's doing too much.

04:20:27.900 And, and I would argue, I'm actually, I have a fairly good assessment of, you know, looking at a woman being able to assess if she, you know, her degree of makeup usage.

04:20:37.900 But like take an 18 year old, 19 year old guy who's naive, who maybe doesn't have a lot of dating experience, who doesn't even know that, you know, what to really be looking for.

04:20:47.900 Mm hmm.

04:20:48.900 Mm hmm.

04:20:49.900 He might get bamboozled.

04:20:51.900 Yeah, he might. 1.00

04:20:52.900 And he's a sucker and he'll learn. 1.00

04:20:54.900 Right. 1.00

04:20:55.900 So it's a trick.

04:20:56.900 It's a trick.

04:20:57.900 It's a deception.

04:20:58.900 You can also find ways to trick women. 0.99

04:21:01.900 Absolutely.

04:21:02.900 And it's wrong.

04:21:03.900 How about this?

04:21:04.900 Let me ask you a question.

04:21:06.900 So would you like to know before, like, here's the reality, right?

04:21:10.900 Most women like men with a full head of hair. 0.90

04:21:12.900 Agree or disagree, panel?

04:21:13.900 Agree.

04:21:14.900 Agree.

04:21:15.900 You like a man with a full head of hair, right?

04:21:17.900 I think Andrew Tate looks really good bald.

04:21:19.900 Yeah.

04:21:20.900 Some men can look bald. 0.99

04:21:21.900 Loose pussy energy donated $100. 1.00

04:21:23.900 Oh shit. 1.00

04:21:24.900 Brian, that's a W disgusting 300 and Forsby catfishing and busted gremlin looking motherfuckers 1.00

04:21:30.900 without makeup extensions and wits. 1.00

04:21:32.900 Busted gremlin looking.

04:21:33.900 I will take my makeup off right now.

04:21:35.900 I don't care.

04:21:36.900 Hashtag deception.

04:21:37.900 Hashtag fugly.

04:21:38.900 Hashtag get the rocks.

04:21:39.900 Hashtag Brian is 9th body at 19.

04:21:42.900 No, but honestly.

04:21:43.900 No, here you go.

04:21:44.900 Here's some Neutrogena makeup remover.

04:21:45.900 No, but honestly.

04:21:46.900 There you go.

04:21:47.900 I don't like Neutrogena makeup remover.

04:21:48.900 Go ahead.

04:21:49.900 I prefer Avon.

04:21:50.900 And you have to hold up the wipe so we can see how much comes off.

04:21:55.900 No, I'm going to take it off and then you're going to like lower my rating just to

04:21:58.900 be rude.

04:21:59.900 No, I'm not going to lower your rating.

04:22:00.900 You just do well.

04:22:02.900 No, I'm not.

04:22:03.900 You just said you won't.

04:22:04.900 I just said I won't.

04:22:05.900 Take my word for it.

04:22:08.900 Okay.

04:22:11.900 Okay.

04:22:12.900 She's doing it.

04:22:13.900 Has this ever been done before?

04:22:14.900 Yeah, we've done it before.

04:22:15.900 Really?

04:22:16.900 Yeah.

04:22:17.900 I've never seen that before.

04:22:18.900 Any other girls want to do it? 1.00

04:22:19.900 You want to do it?

04:22:20.900 Hold on.

04:22:21.900 You can pull my videos up actually.

04:22:22.900 I'm not taking off my makeup.

04:22:23.900 You said you look better without me.

04:22:24.900 I do.

04:22:25.900 Pull it up.

04:22:26.900 Pull it up on you too.

04:22:27.900 I'm not.

04:22:28.900 Am I going to pay for that?

04:22:29.900 No, no, no, no.

04:22:30.900 Wait.

04:22:31.900 She said she was going to do it.

04:22:32.900 Yeah.

04:22:33.900 Actually.

04:22:34.900 Am I going to change the terms?

04:22:35.900 What's the terms?

04:22:36.900 And say.

04:22:37.900 You just said you would do it.

04:22:38.900 Are you going to pay me for it?

04:22:40.900 I'm paying off.

04:22:41.900 Why would I pay you to take your makeup off?

04:22:43.900 You're trying to make a point by saying, oh, I don't look that off.

04:22:47.900 Fine.

04:22:48.900 I don't care.

04:22:49.900 I will take one to go though.

04:22:50.900 Huh?

04:22:51.900 I need to take one to go though.

04:22:52.900 Yeah, me too.

04:22:53.900 Oh.

04:22:54.900 I'm all out.

04:22:55.900 Sorry.

04:22:56.900 All right.

04:22:57.900 Let me read a couple chats.

04:22:58.900 I think I'm going to need more than one.

04:23:01.900 Oh, I'll give you more.

04:23:02.900 Cause I have to do it.

04:23:03.900 Oh.

04:23:04.900 I have to do it very thoroughly.

04:23:05.900 Brian.

04:23:06.900 Brian and Islam doesn't force specific items or style of clothing.

04:23:09.900 Hijab means barrier of modesty and is a guideline enforcing it isn't an Islamic law.

04:23:14.900 It's a cultural issue in a few select countries.

04:23:16.900 I'm here.

04:23:17.900 Okay.

04:23:18.900 I'm just doing this blindly.

04:23:19.900 It's not that great.

04:23:20.900 By the way, just to be clear, I wasn't taking a position on cultural positions in these

04:23:30.900 various countries.

04:23:31.900 I was just countering her argument to her accusations of me being culturally disrespectful.

04:23:39.900 Antenna boy.

04:23:40.900 Oh, don't throw, by the way, don't throw out the wipe.

04:23:43.900 You said you need more, right?

04:23:44.900 I might need more.

04:23:45.900 Okay.

04:23:46.900 Please don't throw.

04:23:47.900 I want you to bring back the wipes.

04:23:48.900 It looks like right here.

04:23:49.900 You have to bring back the wipes.

04:23:50.900 You want me to throw it here?

04:23:51.900 I'm throwing it.

04:23:52.900 Catch.

04:23:53.900 There you go.

04:23:54.900 Okay.

04:23:55.900 Bring back the wipes so we can hold them up to the can.

04:23:57.900 Okay.

04:23:58.900 You're done?

04:23:59.900 Yeah.

04:24:00.900 I took half for you.

04:24:02.900 I mean, there's probably still a lot more on your face.

04:24:06.900 I mean.

04:24:07.900 I have.

04:24:08.900 You what?

04:24:09.900 You have.

04:24:10.900 Where's half?

04:24:11.900 Half.

04:24:12.900 Off.

04:24:13.900 On.

04:24:14.900 Yeah.

04:24:15.900 There's more. 1.00

04:24:16.900 Damn. 0.99

04:24:17.900 Even on camera. 1.00

04:24:18.900 Oh, I'm doing the other side now.

04:24:22.900 No, you're doing the other side.

04:24:23.900 I'm going to do it uneven.

04:24:24.900 Yeah.

04:24:25.900 It's awkward.

04:24:26.900 Good.

04:24:27.900 Good talk.

04:24:28.900 Antenna boy.

04:24:29.900 Yeah.

04:24:30.900 Believing makeup is deception, tricking and blasphemy.

04:24:32.900 He didn't say that. 1.00

04:24:33.900 Just sounds like some incel shit. 0.99

04:24:35.900 Literally nothing wrong with a woman trying to make herself look her best and enhancing 1.00

04:24:39.900 her beauty.

04:24:40.900 It really ain't that deep.

04:24:41.900 Yeah.

04:24:42.900 That's cool.

04:24:43.900 But keep that same energy, ladies, for dates when a guy shows up with a cap and actually

04:24:48.900 he's bald.

04:24:49.900 You're telling me you wouldn't feel a little bit deceived.

04:24:54.900 If he's bald.

04:24:55.900 Be honest.

04:24:56.900 Sure.

04:24:57.900 But I think men care a lot more about looks than women. 0.63

04:25:00.900 I actually disagree with you.

04:25:01.900 Me too.

04:25:02.900 Really?

04:25:03.900 I think women care way more about looks. 1.00

04:25:04.900 We're just more visually stimulated by looks.

04:25:05.900 I think women will date a guy who's not like their type, but men won't like date or

04:25:11.900 marry a woman who's not their type. 0.68

04:25:13.900 For the long term.

04:25:14.900 And he has to overcompensate in some way.

04:25:16.900 I don't know.

04:25:18.900 He can be less attractive, but he has to be more attractive in other areas to make up

04:25:23.900 for the fact that he's not as physically attractive.

04:25:27.900 I think women care way more about looks than men do. 0.99

04:25:31.900 And here's why.

04:25:32.900 Here's a couple of reasons why.

04:25:33.900 What do you guys think?

04:25:34.900 Like, I'm not alone in this, right?

04:25:36.900 I think women care about looks, but in a sense of... 1.00

04:25:42.900 How do I say...

04:25:44.900 Like, I don't know how to, like, exactly say this, but like, I think it's more of like...

04:25:49.900 Show us the paper.

04:25:50.900 Show us how much you got...

04:25:52.900 Ew.

04:25:53.900 Hold it up to this camera here.

04:25:55.900 That's actually so little.

04:25:57.900 Yeah, right?

04:25:58.900 See, that...

04:25:59.900 I mean, I can see it on the piece of paper.

04:26:02.900 And there's...

04:26:03.900 You could probably take off more.

04:26:05.900 And granted, I think you said you're not wearing all that much.

04:26:08.900 Wait, so what was your point?

04:26:10.900 I was just saying, like, women usually wear makeup, like, for other women. 0.97

04:26:16.900 Like, it's usually not for...

04:26:17.900 No, no, we were saying who cares more about looks.

04:26:20.900 That was the conversation.

04:26:21.900 But I know, but, like, the point of makeup is...

04:26:25.900 Like, isn't that, like, the topic?

04:26:31.900 Well, but you said that, well, men care more about looks.

04:26:34.900 And I countered.

04:26:35.900 I actually said, well, actually, I think women care more about looks than men care about women's looks.

04:26:40.900 I disagree.

04:26:41.900 I'm agreeing with you, though.

04:26:42.900 But I'm just...

04:26:43.900 Oh, wait.

04:26:44.900 I'm confused.

04:26:45.900 I'm confused.

04:26:46.900 Well, really quickly to address antenna boy here.

04:26:49.900 Um, nothing wrong with a woman trying to make herself look her best. 1.00

04:26:53.900 Okay.

04:26:54.900 Well, there is something wrong with it if it's changing your physical appearance to such a degree that a man would feel deceived.

04:27:08.900 It really comes down to that.

04:27:10.900 Now, listen, here's the reality.

04:27:12.900 It's socially acceptable.

04:27:14.900 Makeup is socially acceptable.

04:27:24.900 I feel like you will see...

04:27:27.900 It's a socially accepted lie.

04:27:29.900 It's a socially accepted lie.

04:27:30.900 Okay.

04:27:31.900 Yeah.

04:27:32.900 But you're arguing, like, the most extreme case of makeup.

04:27:34.900 I'm not, though.

04:27:35.900 Like, all of these girls here today are wearing maybe a little bit of makeup, but it's like... 0.97

04:27:39.900 I don't think so.

04:27:40.900 I'm here in 4K, and nah, not really.

04:27:46.900 I mean, compared to the video that you showed, like, none of this is full glam.

04:27:52.900 Right.

04:27:53.900 You know?

04:27:54.900 Okay, sure.

04:27:55.900 I don't know.

04:27:56.900 I feel like it's not really deceptive, anyone here, and this is...

04:27:59.900 Do you want to take your makeup off?

04:28:01.900 No?

04:28:02.900 Okay.

04:28:03.900 Look.

04:28:04.900 Okay.

04:28:05.900 I'm trying to...

04:28:06.900 Oh.

04:28:07.900 Like, the average woman. 0.97

04:28:08.900 The average woman that you see in the street, at the grocery store, out, like, we're not 0.99

04:28:11.900 talking about at a club, because...

04:28:13.900 But the average woman that you're seeing out, you're at Whole Foods. 1.00

04:28:16.900 Okay.

04:28:17.900 They're not wearing a full face of makeup.

04:28:19.900 Cool.

04:28:20.900 Okay, so you're arguing for an extreme.

04:28:26.900 I'm not.

04:28:27.900 No, I'm not.

04:28:28.900 Because if I download a dating app right now, and you sit next to me, and I'm swiping on

04:28:33.900 Tinder, and we're looking at the first photo that comes up, I guarantee you, 90% of the

04:28:39.900 first photo, it's going to be full face of makeup.

04:28:43.900 And then perhaps it's a lower percentage of the entire, every single photo in her profile

04:28:48.900 she's wearing makeup.

04:28:50.900 So I don't know what she actually looks like.

04:28:53.900 Okay, that's fair.

04:28:54.900 But with the whole thing with, like, women caring about looks more than men... 0.95

04:28:58.900 Yeah, that's what I really want to talk about.

04:29:00.900 Then why do you see unattractive...

04:29:01.900 I feel like more commonly, I see unattractive men with more attractive women than you see

04:29:06.900 the opposite.

04:29:07.900 Yeah.

04:29:08.900 No, because women are generally slightly more attractive than men.

04:29:12.900 Yeah.

04:29:13.900 Scientific fact.

04:29:14.900 Yes.

04:29:15.900 Women are generally... 1.00

04:29:16.900 Yeah.

04:29:17.900 Women are rated higher than men are rated. 0.93

04:29:20.900 Yeah.

04:29:21.900 Women are generally slightly more attractive than men.

04:29:23.900 Y'all are supposed to be the pretty sex. 0.99

04:29:25.900 Y'all are supposed to be.

04:29:26.900 It's kind of the way we evolved.

04:29:27.900 That's kind of more women's realm too. 0.99

04:29:30.900 If there's an entire industry, the beauty industry, and let's say, like, the consumer

04:29:35.900 base of that industry is 90% women, and you're going through... 0.99

04:29:40.900 You're spending this money and going through this effort to make yourself look more physically

04:29:45.900 attractive, then that'll just naturally end up bolstering your physical appearance. 0.99

04:29:53.900 Okay, so I took my makeup off.

04:29:55.900 You're still wearing makeup, but it's okay.

04:29:58.900 No, I'm not.

04:29:59.900 Hold it up to the camera.

04:30:00.900 Hold it up to that camera.

04:30:01.900 No, she's not.

04:30:02.900 Hold it up to...

04:30:03.900 Hold it up to...

04:30:04.900 What makeup am I wearing?

04:30:05.900 There's still a little lingering...

04:30:06.900 I think I see a little lingering... 1.00

04:30:08.900 These suck. 1.00

04:30:09.900 I'm not saying... 1.00

04:30:10.900 Look, I'm...

04:30:11.900 You took most of it off, I suspect.

04:30:12.900 You understand.

04:30:13.900 Here.

04:30:14.900 Hold it up to the camera.

04:30:15.900 I'm not going to jam this in my eye.

04:30:16.900 Hold it up to the camera right there.

04:30:17.900 I think you look, like, the same.

04:30:18.900 Wait.

04:30:19.900 You still look beautiful.

04:30:20.900 Hold it up to the camera.

04:30:21.900 Did my rating go down?

04:30:22.900 Hold it up to the camera.

04:30:23.900 Okay.

04:30:24.900 Hold it up to the camera.

04:30:25.900 Where's the other one?

04:30:26.900 You said there was two.

04:30:27.900 No, I only used one.

04:30:28.900 She didn't use it. 0.91

04:30:29.900 I didn't open it.

04:30:30.900 Oh, give it back.

04:30:31.900 The seal is still intact.

04:30:32.900 Give it back.

04:30:33.900 Thank you.

04:30:34.900 I threw it at you like you threw it at me.

04:30:36.900 I gently tossed it to you, and you caught it.

04:30:40.900 Congrats.

04:30:41.900 Yeah.

04:30:42.900 So...

04:30:43.900 Okay, so what's your question?

04:30:45.900 Did my rating go down?

04:30:47.900 I told you I wasn't going to rate you.

04:30:50.900 That was my condition.

04:30:52.900 I did not go through all of this work.

04:30:55.900 Well, I'll actually give you this.

04:30:57.900 What?

04:30:58.900 I tend to think women look as good or sometimes better without makeup. 0.91

04:31:03.900 I think you're an attractive woman with or without makeup.

04:31:08.900 Thank you.

04:31:10.900 You're welcome.

04:31:12.900 Okay, really quick to adjust the whole women caring more about looks. 1.00

04:31:17.900 Okay, so here's my view on this, and you guys feel free to weigh in.

04:31:21.900 So, I think women care a lot, a lot about things, physically speaking, that are totally outside of a man's control. 0.93

04:31:32.900 Things like height.

04:31:35.900 You could even, I mean, height, hair, and if a man's balding, that's really out of his control. 0.96

04:31:44.900 Penis size, physical size, and then we can also talk like race, skin color. 0.97

04:31:50.900 That's a component. 0.97

04:31:51.900 Two, women are far less likely to, men are more likely to, or more willing to date outside of their race than the reverse.

04:32:01.900 And perhaps the, I think the solely, well, there's stats on this.

04:32:08.900 I haven't committed them to memory.

04:32:10.900 But men are more likely to date outside their race.

04:32:13.900 So, there are more things out of our control that are a really big deal for women, oftentimes deal breakers, than the reverse. 1.00

04:32:23.900 So, like I said, height, whoops, hold on. 0.98

04:32:26.900 There's height, there's balding, penis size. 0.99

04:32:31.900 That's out of our control. 0.98

04:32:33.900 Whereas the things we care about when it comes to your looks, aside men who have like a very, very, who care about breast size. 0.99

04:32:41.900 And ass size, yeah. 1.00

04:32:43.900 Which ass size, women can control to some extent through exercise. 1.00

04:32:48.900 Really, the primary thing that, you know, in terms of, you can control when it comes to your weight. 0.95

04:32:56.900 Weight, women can control. 1.00

04:32:58.900 Height, we can't control that.

04:33:01.900 So, that's why I think women care more about looks than men do. 1.00

04:33:04.900 Yeah, I'd say men care more about looks for women. 1.00

04:33:10.900 And I'd say women care more about like money and stuff like that. 1.00

04:33:16.900 You know what I mean?

04:33:17.900 I feel like all of that stuff kind of blows over depending on how much money the man has.

04:33:20.900 You're literally wearing a t-shirt that says size queen. 0.94

04:33:23.900 This is for my gay sister.

04:33:25.900 This was a gift to her and I'm wearing it in spirit of her tonight.

04:33:29.900 A size queen is a woman who wants, who... 1.00

04:33:32.900 A big dick. 1.00

04:33:33.900 Yeah. 1.00

04:33:34.900 Okay.

04:33:35.900 I'm also manifesting.

04:33:37.900 So, yeah.

04:33:38.900 Clearly, you want a guy... 0.94

04:33:39.900 Okay. 1.00

04:33:40.900 Penis sizes... 1.00

04:33:41.900 How big of a peen do you want? 0.99

04:33:43.900 The thing is, is like, if you look at all of my old videos, if you look at my stuff pinned

04:33:48.900 on Twitter, like my ex was average is...

04:33:51.900 I don't know.

04:33:52.900 I don't know.

04:33:53.900 I don't want to burn my eyes anymore, but...

04:33:57.900 Um, so like, if it's a nice person that I like spending time with and it's an average 0.99

04:34:04.900 size dick, I don't care. 1.00

04:34:06.900 But if he's a jerk and an asshole, but he has a huge dick, he'll tolerate disrespect 1.00

04:34:10.900 and poor treatment because he's compensating or he's, he's, uh, bringing something else 1.00

04:34:16.900 to the table.

04:34:17.900 Me personally?

04:34:18.900 No.

04:34:19.900 Okay. 1.00

04:34:20.900 But like, is a big dick nice? 1.00

04:34:22.900 Like, of course. 1.00

04:34:23.900 Okay.

04:34:24.900 Cool. 0.99

04:34:25.900 So look, a lot of women have a penis size preference, height preference, right? 1.00

04:34:28.900 Yeah. 0.99

04:34:29.900 Here, let's go around the table.

04:34:30.900 Uh, how tall are you?

04:34:33.900 And like, do you have a bare minimum height preference for a guy?

04:34:36.900 Um, I'm 5'10", and I've dated all the way down to 5'6".

04:34:41.900 Okay.

04:34:42.900 Do you prefer a guy to be taller than you?

04:34:44.900 Um, I don't care.

04:34:46.900 Okay.

04:34:47.900 Yeah.

04:34:48.900 What about you?

04:34:49.900 5'2".

04:34:50.900 Do you have a height preference?

04:34:52.900 As long as he's taller than me.

04:34:54.900 So 5'3", totally cool with it.

04:34:56.900 Yeah.

04:34:57.900 Doesn't sound like the truth, but okay.

04:35:00.900 What about you?

04:35:01.900 I'm 5'9", and I have gone on a date with a guy who was 5'8", but after you were explaining

04:35:06.900 like, your perspective on that, I see what you're saying.

04:35:09.900 I was-

04:35:10.900 There wasn't a second date with that guy, was there?

04:35:12.900 Well, for other reasons, not because of his height.

04:35:15.900 Okay.

04:35:16.900 But-

04:35:17.900 Interesting.

04:35:18.900 Um, I think I was thinking more of men like to have an attractive woman, because that like

04:35:22.900 gives them more status.

04:35:23.900 Yeah.

04:35:24.900 Whereas women don't really care about the status. 1.00

04:35:26.900 Like if their man is not as good looking, if they love their man, they're still going

04:35:30.900 to be with their man.

04:35:31.900 Yeah.

04:35:32.900 Well, you had me in the first part.

04:35:35.900 Women are more attracted to status. 1.00

04:35:37.900 I get what you're saying.

04:35:38.900 I get what you're saying.

04:35:39.900 But I mean, maybe the way you worded it just, but I get what you're saying.

04:35:43.900 Okay.

04:35:44.900 If women didn't really care all that much about looks, actually, hold on. 1.00

04:35:49.900 I'll come back to that.

04:35:50.900 We were going around the table.

04:35:51.900 Go ahead.

04:35:52.900 Um, I'm 5'5", and I think like minimum for me is like 5'10".

04:35:58.900 Okay.

04:35:59.900 Um, I'm 5'3", and as long as he's taller than me.

04:36:03.900 Okay.

04:36:04.900 I'm 5'4", and I honestly like don't mind.

04:36:07.900 I like-

04:36:08.900 Wait, what about you?

04:36:10.900 Um, I'm 5'2", and three quarters.

04:36:14.900 Um, like 5'9", and up.

04:36:18.900 But I do want to add that on average women are shorter than men. 0.78

04:36:26.900 And so I think that kind of goes just with-

04:36:29.900 It's just natural that they're going to date a man who's a little bit taller. 0.99

04:36:33.900 Now the penis thing, I think that's a little bit ridiculous. 0.98

04:36:37.900 And I also think that men care more about beauty and women care more about status. 0.99

04:36:42.900 Yeah.

04:36:43.900 Yeah.

04:36:44.900 Well, I can give you an argument, but really quick on the height thing.

04:36:47.900 How tall is your husband?

04:36:49.900 5'9".

04:36:50.900 Uh, you were in a relationship, right?

04:36:53.900 How tall was your boyfriend?

04:36:55.900 He was like 5'8".

04:36:59.900 How tall was your last boyfriend?

04:37:01.900 I think we were like the same height.

04:37:05.900 How tall is your current boyfriend?

04:37:08.900 Six feet.

04:37:09.900 Okay.

04:37:10.900 How tall is your boyfriend?

04:37:12.900 6'3".

04:37:13.900 6'3", okay.

04:37:14.900 5'10".

04:37:15.900 5'10".

04:37:16.900 6'1", and then the one before that, 5'7".

04:37:20.900 Okay.

04:37:22.900 Well, I mean, a lot of women say, you know, height's not that big of a deal, but... 1.00

04:37:28.900 6'1", 6'3". 0.55

04:37:29.900 So women are shorter on average than men on average. 0.98

04:37:33.900 Right.

04:37:34.900 But you'll have videos of women who are like five feet saying, like, they'll have like height requirements for men. 1.00

04:37:41.900 And this is also evidenced as what's going on on dating apps.

04:37:44.900 Women can filter by height and they've actually looked at, they've done analysis on this. 1.00

04:37:48.900 Women will filter, like put in a filter and say, I want to date a guy above this height. 1.00

04:37:53.900 But some guys also say I only date blondes. 1.00

04:37:58.900 It's true. 1.00

04:37:59.900 Or blue eyes, or big butt, or big boobs. 1.00

04:38:03.900 He's saying that those are things that you can change, though. 0.96

04:38:06.900 You can change your hair color, you can get implants, you can get a BBL, but he cannot do anything to make his bone structure taller.

04:38:15.900 I mean, the resort to not having...

04:38:18.900 To make yourself taller?

04:38:19.900 Yeah.

04:38:20.900 No.

04:38:21.900 There is a surgery.

04:38:22.900 Yeah, you can get a surgery to make yourself taller.

04:38:24.900 And also there is a surgery you can get to change your ankle.

04:38:27.900 Wait, go around the table questions.

04:38:28.900 I saw that.

04:38:29.900 Who here has been on a dating app?

04:38:30.900 Just show of hands.

04:38:31.900 Who's been on dating apps?

04:38:35.900 No?

04:38:36.900 Never been on a dating app?

04:38:37.900 Never been on a dating app?

04:38:38.900 Never been?

04:38:39.900 Never been?

04:38:40.900 No.

04:38:41.900 Okay.

04:38:42.900 What percentage of men do you swipe no on, on a dating app? 0.91

04:38:45.900 Well, probably 99.8.

04:38:50.900 Probably the same.

04:38:51.900 Yeah.

04:38:52.900 How many do you swipe no on?

04:38:53.900 Like, most of them.

04:38:55.900 Yep.

04:38:56.900 What about you?

04:38:57.900 Like, 99.9.

04:38:58.900 Wait, hold on.

04:38:59.900 So on dating apps where you're really just making a very quick judgment about someone's

04:39:04.900 physical appearance, why is it the case that you guys are only swiping yes on like 1% of

04:39:10.900 dudes, whereas dudes are swiping on like a lot of, like what, 50% of women? 1.00

04:39:15.900 Because men are more desperate.

04:39:17.900 I feel like, yeah.

04:39:18.900 So women are much pickier when it comes to physical appearance. 1.00

04:39:22.900 No, they're not as desperate.

04:39:23.900 Ergo, ergo, women care more about looks than men do. 1.00

04:39:27.900 Yeah.

04:39:28.900 When it comes to, when it comes to dating apps, things like speed dating, you will find that

04:39:33.900 women place a premium on a man's physical appearance. 1.00

04:39:36.900 That's what all the studies have shown.

04:39:39.900 And it makes sense because you have nothing to judge other than his physical appearance.

04:39:43.900 So if you initially see that he's not physically attractive, you're going to disqualify him.

04:39:47.900 So that's what we see.

04:39:48.900 The guys who are typically attractive, they get the most swipes, they get the most matches.

04:39:52.900 Whereas the guys who's not typically attractive, they tend to be the most, most of the men.

04:39:58.900 They don't get matches at all.

04:40:00.900 They don't get swipes at all.

04:40:01.900 So his point is valid in that regard. 0.66

04:40:03.900 Also, this is a really niche example I'm about to give.

04:40:06.900 But I would argue men who are physically disabled compared to women who are physically disabled. 0.97

04:40:11.900 Men are going to struggle way more in dating if they're physically disabled than women.

04:40:17.900 Do you know what's interesting is that there's a study done.

04:40:21.900 And if a woman in a marriage gets, or not terminally ill, but severely ill,

04:40:26.900 they're six times more likely to be left by their male partner than if the male was to get sick.

04:40:32.900 Well, the issue with that study is probably I don't think it's been replicated.

04:40:36.900 So you have a huge issue with a lot of these soft science studies called the, I forgot the exact term.

04:40:45.900 They can't replicate any of these studies.

04:40:49.900 Okay.

04:40:51.900 And also, I would add, ask you, who is doing these studies?

04:40:57.900 Like, a lot of these studies are done by, like, feminists who already have decided what the end result is, 1.00

04:41:07.900 and they're going to try to confirm their bias.

04:41:10.900 And if you go into a study, for example, cigarette companies in, I think, the 60s, right,

04:41:17.900 hired scientists to study the harmful effects of cigarettes.

04:41:22.900 And they came out with studies that said, well, cigarettes are actually not harmful.

04:41:26.900 In fact, they can be, you know, they can have some positive health impacts.

04:41:33.900 Okay.

04:41:34.900 So if, who, you got to ask yourself, who's funding these studies?

04:41:37.900 Yeah, well, who's funding yours?

04:41:38.900 I don't have a computer with notes in front of me.

04:41:40.900 I haven't cited any studies.

04:41:42.900 Okay, then let me bring a computer with some notes.

04:41:44.900 Let's go.

04:41:45.900 Typically, you know how valid they are about how controversial results are going to be.

04:41:49.900 Like, a lot of these are bought, they're political.

04:41:53.900 So, like what Brian said, there is a replication.

04:41:56.900 A lot of these studies don't replicate.

04:41:58.900 I won't call it a crisis, because I work in the field of psychology, so I won't call it a crisis.

04:42:03.900 But there are studies, when we talk about attraction and things like women valuing looks,

04:42:07.900 those are some of the most replicated studies, like evolutionary psychology, et cetera.

04:42:11.900 They replicate all the time.

04:42:12.900 But when you talk about, like, what did you just say?

04:42:14.900 Men were more likely to leave their sick wives than their sick partner were to leave them.

04:42:20.900 See, I've never heard of that study.

04:42:22.900 That's not to say it's invalid or unreliable, but I've just never heard it.

04:42:25.900 I would like to review it.

04:42:26.900 I would like to actually see that.

04:42:27.900 No, yeah.

04:42:28.900 I mean, I reread it yesterday, but I knew about it probably two years ago,

04:42:33.900 because my sister and I talk about this kind of stuff all the time.

04:42:35.900 And she also majored in psych, criminology, all of that, so.

04:42:40.900 But let me, well.

04:42:42.900 But you agreed, though, that men do value beauty more than women do.

04:42:49.900 Yeah, because that's how we draw inferences about a woman's fertility. 1.00

04:42:52.900 But the argument is that, like, I guess for an initial date, yeah, maybe women are a little bit more judgmental. 0.99

04:43:00.900 But in terms of long term, like, if you get with a woman and she's, like, really beautiful, but then, like, she just, she just totally goes downhill. 0.95

04:43:11.900 Mm-hmm.

04:43:12.900 Then maybe you wouldn't want to stay with her versus.

04:43:15.900 Or I just cheat.

04:43:16.900 Versus a woman who's with a guy and if he, if he gets. 0.99

04:43:19.900 Did you say cheat?

04:43:20.900 Yeah, I'm speaking objectively, though.

04:43:22.900 Yeah, I'm saying, like, if she declines.

04:43:23.900 I was like, whoa.

04:43:24.900 If she declines in appearance, then the guy, he'd probably stay with her, but he'd probably step outside of the relationship.

04:43:29.900 But typically you would say, like, men have more stressful jobs, right?

04:43:31.900 Yeah.

04:43:32.900 So, like, men age faster.

04:43:33.900 Yeah.

04:43:34.900 So, but a woman isn't going to leave a man for that. 1.00

04:43:37.900 Not if he has money, status, resources.

04:43:40.900 Right.

04:43:41.900 So you, but you, you agree, though, that there is that difference.

04:43:44.900 Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't disagree.

04:43:46.900 But the, the distinction I drew was that I would say men, women value physical appearance as much as men, but men are more visually receptive and sexually stimulated by a woman's physical appearance than women are with men.

04:44:00.900 Mm-hmm.

04:44:01.900 Yeah.

04:44:02.900 That's, that's, that's how I would say it.

04:44:03.900 Okay.

04:44:04.900 Last thing on this.

04:44:07.900 So, I would also argue, in terms of appearance, depictions of aspirational body types for men are far harder to achieve and attain than what you see of women.

04:44:22.900 No.

04:44:23.900 Okay.

04:44:24.900 But like, so let me, what are you going off of?

04:44:26.900 So she said no, but so let me, let me try to give a bit more details because I, it's, so if you look at, for example, superhero movies.

04:44:34.900 So if you look at the men in superhero movies, the aspirational body type, in order to achieve as a man, the aspirational body type, the apex, the optimum body type, that's going to require either.

04:44:50.900 Either, I mean, elite level genetics, treating the gym like a full-time, part-time job, excuse me, or steroid use.

04:45:00.580 Whereas women, I would argue, an eight, any, any 18 year old woman, so long as she monitors her caloric intake without even having to do any sort of physical training, can achieve a near idealistic, uh, aspirational body type. 0.99

04:45:21.040 A woman need not do strength training, for example, to have what 99% of men will deem like a sexy or a hot body. 1.00

04:45:31.920 But for a man to have an aspirational body, to have a hot or sexy body, he will need to have some degree, or perhaps a huge degree, of, uh, physical training to achieve that.

04:45:47.640 Not just caloric, uh, restriction.

04:45:50.040 I would say that your ideal body type that you're talking about in the superhero movies and all of that is, like, ideal to men by other men.

04:46:02.320 But if you, okay, most women are on, like, some kind of hormonal birth control. 1.00

04:46:05.940 And if you look, birth control makes women more attracted to more feminine features. 1.00

04:46:09.700 And, like, okay, let's, let's remove poison from the conversation.

04:46:15.180 And let's talk about, I'm being, I'm exaggerating, but you're, you're making the argument that it's, it's changing women to be more attracted to feminine features.

04:46:25.340 It is.

04:46:26.240 It has.

04:46:27.160 That's not the natural order of things, though.

04:46:28.800 It's not the natural order.

04:46:29.740 Yeah, but that's the reality.

04:46:30.680 But that's the reality right now of what women are more attracted to. 1.00

04:46:33.440 It's that, like, Pete Davison, that scrawny, like, drugged-out motherfucker. 1.00

04:46:37.900 You know what I mean? 1.00

04:46:38.480 Like, people think that he's hot.

04:46:39.420 This is the fall of Western civilization.

04:46:42.320 And it's sad.

04:46:42.880 This is a failed society.

04:46:43.900 I don't think women and more women on average prefer men that are, like, taking, like, a heavy dosage of PEDs, performance-enhancing drugs.

04:46:54.220 And honestly, I think everybody should strength train.

04:46:56.980 I don't think women should just watch their calories. 1.00

04:46:59.420 But I do get your point.

04:47:02.000 Because for a man, because you're naturally going to have more testosterone, 0.91

04:47:06.480 you're going to be able to put on a lot more muscle mass and a lot quicker if you train in the gym.

04:47:11.500 And honestly, if you're a guy, you're not going to the gym.

04:47:13.820 You need to go to the gym.

04:47:16.060 And that goes for women as well. 1.00

04:47:18.420 But honestly, I don't think, like, personally, if you just work out and you take care of your body,

04:47:24.920 that's very achievable for most people.

04:47:29.020 And I don't think women are attracted to, like, super yoked, like, we're not attracted to that. 0.60

04:47:33.940 I'm not saying that.

04:47:34.760 But I would argue, like, I'm not saying, like, full-on bodybuilder status.

04:47:39.580 But I would argue, like, if you compare an untrained man to a guy who has just an athletic build.

04:47:48.020 So, like, you know, he's got definition and he's cut, whatever. 0.97

04:47:52.520 Not fucking full-on bodybuilder. 0.88

04:47:55.080 I would argue most women are going to be more attracted to the athletic build versus, like, 0.99

04:48:01.780 most women would probably actually put the guy who's just skinny. 1.00

04:48:05.300 They're not going to put that in, like, the attractive category from a body perspective.

04:48:11.340 Whereas a woman can be just have a low body fat percentage and be deemed physically attractive, 1.00

04:48:17.700 like, pretty much across the board.

04:48:20.500 Whereas a guy who's done no physical training and he's just, he just has a low body fat percentage,

04:48:27.760 probably not.

04:48:29.280 Yeah, that's not attractive.

04:48:30.220 Don't be skinny.

04:48:31.800 Okay, thank you.

04:48:33.100 You're making my point.

04:48:33.820 No, but I'm just saying, but even then, if you think about it this way, like, men typically 0.64

04:48:38.600 have more physical jobs.

04:48:39.980 So, sometimes, you know, you can build a little bit of muscle from your job.

04:48:44.460 But honestly, I don't think it's ridiculously hard to get in shape.

04:48:49.160 I think it's just consistency.

04:48:51.080 And I think that goes for both men and women.

04:48:53.600 For a woman to, like, have a body that a lot of men will view as sexy, 1.00

04:48:57.640 she need not never participate in a sport, she need not never even exercise, she need not ever even step foot in a gym.

04:49:08.600 Where I would argue for women to find a particular male body type, like, hot or sexy or attractive. 0.95

04:49:18.920 He has to put in more work.

04:49:19.720 He's gonna have to put in more work than a woman. 1.00

04:49:23.940 So, because I'm bringing this up, because there's this whole trope about women have to meet these, like, unrealistic beauty standard.

04:49:31.820 But the beauty standard for a man is, like, leaps and bounds, like, orders of magnitude more difficult to achieve for the average guy than the reverse.

04:49:41.640 Like, an 18-year-old woman can fairly easily have the ideal female body type, but an 18-year-old male probably has not or cannot achieve his physique potential.

04:49:54.640 It could take him years.

04:49:55.160 Yeah, but also women give birth and go through a lot of bodily changes. 1.00

04:49:58.580 And we, it is relevant.

04:50:00.240 Irrelevant?

04:50:00.780 No, but it is relevant, though.

04:50:02.240 Erroneous!

04:50:03.500 Erroneous!

04:50:04.080 Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

04:50:05.020 Okay, and also we have menopause, right?

04:50:07.820 You think a woman who just watches her calories can stay the same size forever? 1.00

04:50:12.280 No, because she would continue to have to eat lower calories.

04:50:15.680 Because, you know, another reason why we go to the gym as well is because it increases your metabolism so you can eat more food.

04:50:23.260 You can eat more calories.

04:50:24.560 The metabolism changes is the case for both genders. 0.82

04:50:29.240 Yes, but it's...

04:50:30.640 Well, I think also, like, the hormone cycle, too.

04:50:32.340 Like, every week of the month, we're different.

04:50:34.940 We crave different things.

04:50:36.040 So it's not steady, like, a man has his testosterone spike once, and then that's it.

04:50:41.360 It's very normal, but women's different. 1.00

04:50:43.040 Midjack donated $100.

04:50:45.640 It's always funny watching two men try to help women understand more reasonable standards that will help women find better men slash relationship, and women argue it. 0.91

04:50:55.980 Women are their own worst enemy. 1.00

04:50:57.600 Yeah, but my point is that working out will benefit both genders, women and men. 0.87

04:51:07.500 And I think it's very important that they both work out.

04:51:10.760 If a woman literally doesn't work out at all, you understand she can still gain weight. 0.99

04:51:16.580 But he's arguing...

04:51:18.580 We're talking about, like, beauty standards here.

04:51:21.980 Yeah.

04:51:23.000 Isn't that what you're saying?

04:51:24.020 For women, you basically just have to not be fat. 1.00

04:51:29.240 That's it.

04:51:30.200 Yeah, essentially.

04:51:31.700 That's it.

04:51:33.780 Like, but for a man...

04:51:35.240 Okay, I almost feel like we have some photos.

04:51:37.640 Like, we can pull up...

04:51:38.580 I have a folder in the Dropbox folder.

04:51:43.680 I have a folder in the...

04:51:44.780 Oh, you went...

04:51:45.360 Did you go into podcast?

04:51:47.000 Yep, and I went to men and women.

04:51:48.780 And I have Gal Gadot, Scarlett Johansson.

04:51:51.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:51:52.120 Let's...

04:51:52.480 Yep, yep.

04:51:53.060 Well done.

04:51:54.020 All of them work out.

04:51:55.360 I'm trying to figure out...

04:51:56.640 What folder is that, Nick?

04:51:58.180 I'm trying to...

04:51:58.760 Podcast.

04:52:00.420 Dropbox podcast.

04:52:01.620 And then beauty standards.

04:52:02.700 Beauty standards, yes.

04:52:03.960 Okay.

04:52:04.980 Oh, thin men.

04:52:06.140 Can you do...

04:52:06.720 Also, I want to compare...

04:52:07.820 Like, thin men, thin women. 1.00

04:52:09.320 Yeah.

04:52:10.840 Oh, can you pull up...

04:52:12.320 Can you pull up the second...

04:52:14.020 Wait, go into thin men folder?

04:52:18.740 Hold on.

04:52:19.300 I'm trying to find...

04:52:21.220 I was giving birth irrelevant to this conversation.

04:52:24.420 Like, you're not having to go through that.

04:52:27.080 Yeah.

04:52:29.880 Here, pull up...

04:52:31.080 I don't know.

04:52:31.600 Oh, my God. 0.99

04:52:32.060 That's ridiculous. 1.00

04:52:33.680 What the fuck? 1.00

04:52:34.560 All right. 1.00

04:52:35.440 Pull up...

04:52:36.560 Hugh Dodge.

04:52:40.000 It's the blue backdrop.

04:52:41.740 Do you see it?

04:52:42.420 Yeah.

04:52:42.980 All right.

04:52:43.400 And then go to thin women folder. 1.00

04:52:46.180 And then...

04:52:47.560 Pull up...

04:52:54.560 I don't know.

04:52:57.180 I'm trying to find one that's reasonably fair, right?

04:53:00.020 Do you work out, Brian?

04:53:00.840 I should work out more.

04:53:05.660 I'll say that.

04:53:08.740 I don't know.

04:53:09.480 Pull up the one where she's, like, holding coconuts.

04:53:13.320 It's the second one, isn't it?

04:53:15.680 Just the guy first, and then the woman. 0.97

04:53:18.560 Okay.

04:53:19.060 And then the ones you pulled up, we'll look at those two.

04:53:23.860 Okay.

04:53:24.300 That's fine.

04:53:25.060 Go ahead.

04:53:25.500 It's coming, guys.

04:53:31.360 All right.

04:53:31.640 That's a skinny dude.

04:53:34.060 Okay.

04:53:34.760 Skinny dude.

04:53:36.200 Now let's go to the woman. 1.00

04:53:39.500 That's a skinny woman. 1.00

04:53:42.720 She probably works out, too.

04:53:43.660 I would argue more men are going to be like, she has an attractive body than if you go back 1.00

04:53:49.700 to the man, then women are going to be like, he has an attractive body.

04:53:55.280 Honestly, I see more women in the gym than I do men nowadays.

04:53:59.400 That's cat.

04:54:00.540 No, it's actually not.

04:54:03.340 How's that relevant, though?

04:54:04.520 We have a woman's gym. 1.00

04:54:05.220 Going around the table, like, that body that I showed you of the guy, he had a good body.

04:54:09.880 He had a low body fat percentage, but he's thin.

04:54:12.860 He has no muscle, yeah.

04:54:14.060 Okay.

04:54:14.780 Do you think that that's, like, the apex?

04:54:16.540 Are we arguing, like, just those photos, photo to photo, compared to each other right

04:54:21.680 now?

04:54:22.160 Okay, but you're showing a photo of someone that's pale compared to someone that's in

04:54:25.900 the sun, which pale is already...

04:54:27.740 I'll find a pale, thin woman. 1.00

04:54:29.840 Not every guy just looks like that, though, without going to the gym.

04:54:33.120 Also, like, I would argue that he's an unhealthy body fat percentage.

04:54:37.020 He looks like he doesn't eat.

04:54:37.840 That looks anorexic to me.

04:54:39.440 Yeah.

04:54:39.860 I would argue that's anorexia.

04:54:41.340 That's not average.

04:54:42.160 That's not an average, thin man.

04:54:44.700 Come on.

04:54:45.240 Okay, fine.

04:54:45.780 I'll find an untrained, thin guy.

04:54:47.940 And that girl clearly goes to the gym. 1.00

04:54:49.740 Okay, here, no, no, no, hold on.

04:54:50.820 Probably does Pilates or something.

04:54:51.540 Nick, Nick, go to the thin men folder, pull up the first one.

04:54:55.520 Pull up the first one.

04:54:56.520 It should be 1, 2, 8, 4, 8, 5, 6.

04:54:57.540 I'm an actual health coach.

04:54:58.500 I know what I'm talking about.

04:55:00.260 All right.

04:55:00.820 Women need a strange train just as much as men do. 1.00

04:55:03.000 This will be a more fair example.

04:55:04.500 I'm actually...

04:55:09.400 Okay, there you go.

04:55:10.780 That's...

04:55:11.260 Is that a bit more fair?

04:55:12.900 Yeah, that's fair.

04:55:13.520 Sure, sure.

04:55:13.960 So, I would argue he's tan like a...

04:55:18.520 All right, there you go.

04:55:19.360 There's the untrained male body. 0.99

04:55:20.900 Okay.

04:55:21.260 Okay?

04:55:22.040 But he's not fat.

04:55:23.240 He's not overweight.

04:55:24.080 And then go back to the woman.

04:55:26.660 Okay.

04:55:27.260 That girl definitely works out. 1.00

04:55:28.360 She works out.

04:55:29.180 I don't know. 0.99

04:55:29.520 Like, that girl's fit as fuck. 1.00

04:55:30.480 She probably does Pilates. 1.00

04:55:32.760 Look at her stomach. 0.75

04:55:33.560 She probably does yoga. 1.00

04:55:34.360 No, that is not a girl that doesn't work out.

04:55:36.320 Trust me.

04:55:37.060 Having that body, maintaining that with just a diet is very difficult.

04:55:41.160 You need to work out to build muscle, to build your metabolism, to keep the fat off.

04:55:45.740 I'm literally trying to educate you right now.

04:55:49.140 How are you educating me?

04:55:51.320 Because that's not in a body of a girl that doesn't go to the gym. 1.00

04:55:55.600 Like, or...

04:55:57.980 Yeah.

04:55:58.500 That doesn't go to the gym. 0.98

04:55:59.220 Like, that girl clearly works out. 1.00

04:56:00.700 It's so much harder to keep a lean body if you're not going to the gym and building your...

04:56:04.280 No, it's all through diet.

04:56:05.400 Building metabolism.

04:56:06.020 It's all through diet.

04:56:07.560 You know what?

04:56:08.340 Diet is very important.

04:56:10.260 But you know what happens when you combine bowl?

04:56:12.440 That's all that matters.

04:56:13.120 Amazing things happen.

04:56:15.760 Huh?

04:56:16.900 With muscle?

04:56:18.580 You can't just eat your way into muscle.

04:56:22.320 Not every woman can just look like that without going to the gym and, you know, eating a thousand calories a day. 1.00

04:56:29.300 Here, Nick.

04:56:30.100 Why don't you try the Thin Women folder? 1.00

04:56:34.780 It's C-B-R-E-T. 1.00

04:56:36.460 You have to also take into account genetics.

04:56:40.560 Yes, I know.

04:56:41.480 Obviously, I can't find, like, the perfect one-to-one comparison.

04:56:46.400 I'm just trying to, like...

04:56:47.460 You're trying to say it's harder for men.

04:56:49.640 I'm trying to say that that guy...

04:56:52.640 Here, maybe you feel like...

04:56:54.760 She works out.

04:56:56.520 She's like...

04:56:58.260 Yeah, she does have muscle. 1.00

04:56:59.600 I can see her shoulder.

04:57:00.680 She looks my normal.

04:57:01.040 I can see her tricep.

04:57:02.380 There's an indentation there.

04:57:03.580 I feel like this is fair.

04:57:04.680 This is an achievable physique for a woman without having to go to the gym. 1.00

04:57:09.160 She works out at home, then. 0.95

04:57:10.040 This is an achievable physique.

04:57:11.700 Look at her legs. 1.00

04:57:12.600 There's no muscle.

04:57:13.420 There's minimal muscular definition in the legs.

04:57:17.000 Fair.

04:57:17.180 That's how you know.

04:57:18.240 Okay.

04:57:18.480 I would argue that most men are going to be like, whoa, she's got a nice body. 1.00

04:57:25.000 Go back to the guy.

04:57:27.580 Most women are not going to be like, whoa, he's got a nice body. 1.00

04:57:32.100 Okay.

04:57:32.520 But women are supposed to represent, like, child-bearing qualities where men are supposed to represent protecting you and your family. 1.00

04:57:41.520 So, muscular development, right?

04:57:43.620 Yeah.

04:57:43.920 So, the beauty standard is it's harder for men to achieve the aspirational body type than the reverse. 0.71

04:57:53.300 The female beauty standard that feminists cry about is more than obtainable for, like, 90% of women. 1.00

04:57:59.780 You basically eat flat stomach.

04:58:00.940 You don't need abs.

04:58:02.040 Maybe a little bit of muscle tone.

04:58:03.760 Healthy BMI.

04:58:05.900 Where are you getting that muscle tone from?

04:58:08.220 What's that?

04:58:09.060 Where are you getting that muscle tone from?

04:58:10.920 He's saying our workouts are easier than what they have to do.

04:58:13.500 Like, we could do Pilates, low impact, and they have to live. 0.69

04:58:16.120 Fine.

04:58:16.140 I'll give you the gym comparison.

04:58:18.040 Go to the gym three days a week.

04:58:19.300 Eat, like, 200 calories below maintenance, and you'll be there in a year if you're starting from average.

04:58:24.020 The male beauty standard that's rarely challenged by the mainstream media is literally unobtainable without two, if not three, of the following elite genetics, steroids, five-plus years of treating the gym as a part-time job.

04:58:39.200 I disagree.

04:58:40.240 I've seen very not-muscular men get muscular with not-good genetics in way less time.

04:58:50.240 Men do build muscle a lot quicker, and it's a lot more dense.

04:58:56.340 I'm not saying you have to look like the rock to get a woman or that all women necessarily prefer the ideal.

04:59:01.360 I'm just stating what the cost of a perfect body is for each gender.

04:59:06.980 I don't think you even know what women really like in terms of body type because we don't want, like, the crazy Thor-looking body. 1.00

04:59:14.420 I didn't say that.

04:59:15.500 I didn't say that.

04:59:16.660 You don't need steroids to look great.

04:59:19.300 That I know would like.

04:59:21.020 Or five-plus years.

04:59:22.440 Okay, let me just make it easy, and I know you want to come in here.

04:59:25.860 I was just going to clear up your point.

04:59:27.840 Let me just say it like this.

04:59:29.060 Here's my point.

04:59:31.520 Agree or disagree.

04:59:33.120 The beauty standard that each gender is trying to achieve, my position is that it's harder for men to achieve the male beauty standard than it is for women to achieve the female beauty standard.

04:59:47.140 That's it.

04:59:47.900 That's what I'm arguing.

04:59:48.740 Yeah, but I disagree.

04:59:50.960 Why?

04:59:52.180 Because it's not that hard.

04:59:54.580 Because how you feel?

04:59:55.980 No, because you have more testosterone.

04:59:58.020 Do you know that, like...

04:59:58.740 You put muscle on faster.

05:00:00.200 Okay.

05:00:00.400 But you need not even weight train as a woman to reach the beauty standard. 0.99

05:00:07.360 You said leg muscle.

05:00:08.560 It's very hard to build a muscle definition.

05:00:11.160 No, but the point I was trying to make is that normal woman... 1.00

05:00:13.720 Oh, my gosh.

05:00:14.580 That normal woman... 1.00

05:00:16.720 These people that you think are normal are working out.

05:00:19.460 Do you know that, like, women take up most of the market when you see, like, weight loss ads, weight loss pills, all of these things?

05:00:25.920 Because women are, like, flooding the market with that. 1.00

05:00:28.540 Because women really do have a hard time getting in shape. 1.00

05:00:32.760 And you can't discredit child giving birth.

05:00:36.640 Okay?

05:00:37.040 Because that does change your body.

05:00:38.180 That's not related to the conversation.

05:00:39.980 It's not about being in shape, though.

05:00:42.900 Which occurs more naturally and easily, a desirable female body or a desirable male body, ideally? 0.95

05:00:51.180 Women have to have a nice waist-to-hip ratio, not be overweight, breasts, ass, hips. 1.00

05:00:57.720 Those things develop naturally through puberty.

05:01:00.500 Men do not put on the amount of muscle mass that women find desirable without having to work for it. 0.99

05:01:06.080 So that's what we're saying.

05:01:07.280 The female body is going to develop to be desirable quicker than the male body is going to be desirable.

05:01:12.540 You have to work to get it, but we also have to work to maintain it.

05:01:15.780 That's neither here nor there, though.

05:01:18.000 We're talking about getting there.

05:01:19.580 I can't argue with this girl anymore.

05:01:21.040 Which occurs first?

05:01:22.660 You love it. 1.00

05:01:24.080 Your husband must be very bitch. 1.00

05:01:26.360 No. 1.00

05:01:28.020 It's about which occurs first.

05:01:29.920 I don't really argue with that.

05:01:30.700 Women are found more desirable because your bodies are naturally going to develop into having desirable features. 1.00

05:01:37.700 You're going to grow breasts. 1.00

05:01:39.460 You know, you're going to grow hips. 1.00

05:01:41.420 Not everybody, but yeah, most.

05:01:43.020 Yeah, but that's what he's saying.

05:01:44.740 He's saying it's easier for the female body to develop into a desirable body than it is for the male.

05:01:49.700 Men have to work to get the ideal body that women are attracted to. 0.76

05:01:53.520 Women don't necessarily have to work. 1.00

05:01:55.020 Puberty will take you there.

05:01:56.380 Mm-hmm.

05:01:56.940 That's what he's saying.

05:01:57.540 If you tilt your leg down, your face is getting blocked.

05:02:01.620 More.

05:02:02.720 More, more, more.

05:02:03.440 Go ahead.

05:02:03.900 Go ahead.

05:02:04.800 Okay, so I can say this.

05:02:06.360 I've been, I was a dancer for eight years.

05:02:08.780 I did weight training for five plus years.

05:02:10.740 I've done bodybuilding shows.

05:02:13.340 I know how much work it takes to look good.

05:02:15.900 But here, let me tell you this.

05:02:17.840 Me before, without doing weight training, I would say I did look better than maybe my husband did.

05:02:25.880 But I didn't meet him before he worked out.

05:02:28.240 I already met him after he'd already been trained for five years.

05:02:31.560 He did say he was a chubby kid.

05:02:34.080 And even when he hit puberty, he didn't look that good.

05:02:36.980 So I think it's relative.

05:02:38.420 I don't know if we can even say a generalized statement right now, which is harder.

05:02:43.540 I really don't know if we can say that.

05:02:46.280 Let me ask you a question, right?

05:02:49.120 Who has it?

05:02:50.300 This is like kind of totally out of left field. 1.00

05:02:53.060 Who would have an easier time being a slut? 1.00

05:02:55.780 An obese woman or an obese man? 1.00

05:02:58.720 An obese woman. 1.00

05:03:00.020 An obese woman. 1.00

05:03:01.560 Hmm.

05:03:02.460 Interesting.

05:03:03.460 Well, women are more likely to be fetishized. 1.00

05:03:05.740 So like obese ones. 1.00

05:03:07.740 Nick, you have those photos of like what Henry Cavill and Scarlett Johansson and shit. 0.99

05:03:12.980 We'll just, let's just blast through all of them. 0.87

05:03:15.240 What's that?

05:03:15.920 Men first, then women. 0.87

05:03:18.180 Or maybe, okay, there's, now these are depictions in media.

05:03:21.800 Yeah, women often complain to, oh, the beauty standards as depicted in magazines and media. 1.00

05:03:27.260 It's on the unattainable beauty standards.

05:03:30.080 Wait, put us on the other side so we can, or make it smaller, make it smaller.

05:03:32.940 Am I just alone on this?

05:03:33.980 Left side.

05:03:35.520 All right.

05:03:36.140 What is it?

05:03:36.860 Chris Evans?

05:03:37.560 Is this Chris Evans?

05:03:38.340 Yeah, it's Chris Evans.

05:03:38.600 Okay, next.

05:03:39.500 It's my hall pass.

05:03:40.900 That's Thor.

05:03:42.480 What's his name?

05:03:43.020 Chris Hemsworth.

05:03:43.840 Okay.

05:03:45.660 Henry Cavill, next.

05:03:47.800 Now the women. 0.99

05:03:48.620 That's, okay, Scarlett Johansson.

05:03:52.820 That's, what's her name from?

05:03:54.160 Gal Gadot.

05:03:54.760 Gal Gadot.

05:03:56.100 Okay.

05:03:57.080 That's it?

05:03:57.860 Yeah.

05:03:58.420 Okay, the two, the two, the bodies of the men, that's like, that is so much more unobtainable.

05:04:08.080 Almost any woman could achieve the bodies of those women. 1.00

05:04:12.300 The whole, the whole feminist position is, there are depictions in media of these unobtainable 0.99

05:04:23.260 body types, but we never look at the opposite side of the coin as, actually, the depictions

05:04:28.180 of male body types in media.

05:04:30.500 And I'm using superhero movies here.

05:04:33.240 Women who, Scarlett Johansson, Gal Gadot, superheroes, right?

05:04:36.920 Those guys, superheroes.

05:04:37.900 Heroes, again, elite level genetics, treating the gym like a part-time job, and or steroids

05:04:45.560 to achieve those physiques I showed.

05:04:49.000 Disagree.

05:04:50.900 Okay.

05:04:51.480 On what?

05:04:52.380 What do you disagree on?

05:04:53.180 Let me go back to my, let me go back to my, let me go back to my, let me go back.

05:04:57.460 I got a P, go ahead, say your thing.

05:04:59.280 What the?

05:05:00.140 This was directed towards you.

05:05:02.360 I'm listening, I'm listening, go ahead.

05:05:03.880 Okay.

05:05:04.360 Maybe when you're younger, this would apply.

05:05:08.300 Okay.

05:05:08.620 Because when you're young, you're a dude, you want to hit the gym with your, you know,

05:05:12.940 with your guy friends, whatever.

05:05:17.380 With your guy friends and whatnot.

05:05:20.480 Are you still listening?

05:05:24.020 Should I continue my point?

05:05:26.020 Okay.

05:05:26.460 I'll continue my point.

05:05:27.460 Okay.

05:05:27.760 So, what I'm saying is when you're younger, yeah, maybe for a woman, it might be a little

05:05:32.360 bit easier to maintain a petite physique. 0.98

05:05:35.520 And then for a guy, maybe it is a little bit more work.

05:05:38.420 But if you think about it, when you're in your 40s and your 50s, a woman is going through.

05:05:44.700 Plato, the kid, 22 donated $100.

05:05:48.180 The body is a determination of the willing.

05:05:51.220 It's running faster, stronger, and better than most guys that makes us desirable.

05:05:56.000 The girl can just not eat cheeseburgers. 1.00

05:05:59.600 That's never going to be fair.

05:06:02.580 That's all we say.

05:06:03.820 I eat cheeseburgers all the time.

05:06:06.120 That's all we say.

05:06:06.960 Anyways.

05:06:09.980 Because I go to the gym, I can't afford it.

05:06:11.740 That's what I'm trying to say.

05:06:12.740 Everybody should go to the gym.

05:06:13.660 But my point is, is that maybe when you're younger, it's a little bit easier for women

05:06:20.660 to keep their, you know, petite physique. 1.00

05:06:23.220 But then for a guy, maybe, yeah, he does have to take extra time, go to the gym, lift weights,

05:06:28.700 you know, do bench press, do his pull-ups, deadlifts, and all that stuff.

05:06:32.140 But later on down the road, you know, women have a really hard time staying in that shape 1.00

05:06:41.080 versus a man, you know, his body's not going through a hormonal, you know, tsunami as it

05:06:46.900 would with a woman.

05:06:47.840 And so he can usually maintain his body a lot better than a woman can. 1.00

05:06:51.560 At that point, we don't even want the woman. 1.00

05:06:54.260 Oh, shit. 1.00

05:06:55.100 What? 1.00

05:06:55.560 What kind of sexist, misogynistic shit have I walked into? 1.00

05:06:59.200 At that point, she's talking about menopause and after pregnancy. 1.00

05:07:02.960 Well, you need to discuss that because you're talking about women. 0.99

05:07:05.980 No, we're talking about, we're talking about achieving, who achieves the most desirable

05:07:11.380 body more naturally and easier.

05:07:14.960 Do you say you don't want women, like, what, if they're 40 to 50 or if they hit menopause?

05:07:19.480 I'm talking about, generally, I'm talking about the way we perceive it.

05:07:21.560 I don't want people to perceive attractiveness.

05:07:22.660 I'm talking about the general population.

05:07:24.380 We're talking peak performance.

05:07:27.220 I'm not going to agree.

05:07:28.920 We're talking about who gets there easier.

05:07:30.260 I'm not going to agree 100%.

05:07:31.180 We're talking about like for like, bringing in, yes, there are certain biological realities

05:07:35.280 of women going through pregnancy, but if we're comparing like for like, if we're comparing

05:07:39.220 men between the ages of 18 and 30 who, we're not factoring in women who get pregnant,

05:07:47.260 then there's no comparison.

05:07:50.960 Yeah.

05:07:51.560 I guess I'm a little bit biased.

05:07:52.660 Just take the L, bro.

05:07:54.880 Just take the L.

05:07:55.760 Don't call me bro.

05:07:57.160 Okay, sorry, dude.

05:07:57.820 I'm not a bro.

05:07:59.280 I'm not your bro.

05:08:00.320 You know what?

05:08:00.840 I'm sorry.

05:08:01.660 Hold on.

05:08:02.160 I just, I do.

05:08:03.620 I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.

05:08:09.220 Okay, girl.

05:08:10.180 So.

05:08:10.480 I don't care.

05:08:13.740 Here, let's, we need to, I'm sorry, Puffy.

05:08:16.260 Puffy.

05:08:16.580 I'm so sorry.

05:08:17.740 Great Puffy.

05:08:18.580 I'm sorry, Puffy.

05:08:19.400 I'm going to say that.

05:08:20.340 Puffy.

05:08:20.700 I ain't even watching no more.

05:08:21.900 Great Puffy.

05:08:23.140 Go ahead.

05:08:23.820 Never mind. 0.94

05:08:26.420 Your mouth is so big, it's unattractive. 0.96

05:08:29.020 You say Marvel bods aren't women's desire. 0.85

05:08:31.940 Five minutes later, Chris Pine is your hall pass.

05:08:34.840 Please go put your makeup back on so we don't have to hear you for an hour.

05:08:38.860 Wow.

05:08:40.040 Any girl that says that, that, uh, the picture of Chris Evans saying that they would prefer

05:08:47.160 a dad bod over Chris Evans physique that we showed, which isn't like super steroided

05:08:53.720 up, although he might be, I don't know.

05:08:56.600 Yeah, he looked more normal.

05:08:57.640 I think, yeah, it was, it was like a little more on the athletic side, I'd say.

05:09:01.420 I mean, still, that's pretty insane, um, physique, but yeah, they're, they've taken

05:09:07.920 his physique.

05:09:08.560 They're not, they're not going for the dad bod.

05:09:11.340 Yeah.

05:09:11.700 If they had a choice, they're picking his physique.

05:09:13.320 I don't think I've ever heard a woman see a dad bod pop up and just be like, oh my God.

05:09:18.260 Like if you like put a girl that's not really into it, a dad bod would be a girl that maybe

05:09:21.980 has a few extra pounds and then a girl that's like very fit, you would choose the girl that's 1.00

05:09:26.760 also, you would choose the overweight girl. 1.00

05:09:29.340 What?

05:09:29.760 I'm confused.

05:09:30.600 Everyone wants the best that they can get.

05:09:32.380 Also, you might see the, one of these girls that have the natural nice bodies because 1.00

05:09:35.960 they just don't eat cheeseburgers.

05:09:37.820 You don't know if they're like running three times a week.

05:09:40.820 You don't know if they're like eating 1200 calories every day.

05:09:45.080 You know, they've lost their period.

05:09:46.880 Like you don't know these things, right?

05:09:49.340 This is what happens.

05:09:50.900 This is why it's so important to go to the gym.

05:09:53.240 Go to the gym.

05:09:55.240 She's like, shout out my gym. 1.00

05:09:57.880 Let's Puffy.

05:09:58.840 Let's see Puffy.

05:09:59.100 I have a woman's gym, by the way. 1.00

05:10:01.480 Puffy.

05:10:01.800 Let's, let's, okay, girls, rate Puffy. 1.00

05:10:05.540 Oh, wait.

05:10:06.300 I already saw him in the other one.

05:10:07.580 Wait, don't scroll down.

05:10:09.120 Yeah, I think that's fine.

05:10:10.780 Can you just like, come here, scroll down, and then we'll just look at his other ones.

05:10:15.240 Yeah.

05:10:15.520 Is there such thing as a 0.5?

05:10:17.860 Of course.

05:10:18.620 Of course.

05:10:19.700 All right, guys, here's Puffy.

05:10:21.940 Look at, scroll down.

05:10:24.780 Puffy got the value.

05:10:25.280 This is Puffy Vegas.

05:10:26.980 This is his Instagram.

05:10:28.020 So, rate him on a scale of 1 to 10.

05:10:32.080 Wait, scroll.

05:10:32.940 No, no, no.

05:10:33.360 Scroll down.

05:10:33.900 Keep scrolling down, I think.

05:10:35.340 Unless, was there.

05:10:37.220 All right, cool.

05:10:39.600 Starting with you, going around the table, rate him on a scale of 1 to 10.

05:10:42.380 I think that's what he wanted.

05:10:47.520 You can be honest.

05:10:48.440 We made.

05:10:50.740 Personally, for me, personally, 2.

05:10:54.040 Okay.

05:10:54.260 Okay.

05:10:58.020 3.

05:10:59.720 Go ahead.

05:11:00.500 2, 2.

05:11:02.460 I would say like a 1.5.

05:11:04.640 Oh, my God.

05:11:07.760 A 0.

05:11:08.900 Whoa.

05:11:09.860 Yeah, what?

05:11:11.440 Y'all are doing too long.

05:11:12.980 Like, what?

05:11:15.840 So, 0 for you?

05:11:17.360 Yeah. 1.00

05:11:17.980 Damn. 1.00

05:11:18.780 What the fuck? 1.00

05:11:19.460 What about you? 1.00

05:11:22.300 Whoa.

05:11:25.140 Sorry.

05:11:26.020 He's not a 0, guys.

05:11:27.640 I actually was going to say 0.5.

05:11:28.700 You do realize like 0 would be like significant facial asymmetry, like deformity, like he ain't

05:11:37.620 a 0, okay?

05:11:39.340 Sorry.

05:11:41.620 1.

05:11:42.100 Obviously, he's a 10.

05:11:44.080 Obviously.

05:11:45.260 Because he's my sugar daddy.

05:11:46.680 Just kidding.

05:11:47.160 Just kidding.

05:11:47.480 Right?

05:11:48.820 What?

05:11:49.680 He's not my sugar daddy.

05:11:50.800 I'm kidding.

05:11:51.540 He is a patron of the whatever podcast, though.

05:11:54.860 Thank you, bro.

05:11:55.500 That's the motto.

05:11:56.040 All right.

05:11:56.780 Dude, I think we bring him on the podcast.

05:11:59.500 Do it.

05:12:00.140 Should I do a poll?

05:12:01.280 Well, maybe.

05:12:02.060 I'll think about it.

05:12:02.520 Okay.

05:12:02.560 You should bring grid one.

05:12:04.320 Yeah.

05:12:04.920 Okay.

05:12:05.340 Maddie, I'm going to have you read this one.

05:12:06.440 I tell women I'm six foot three inches.

05:12:11.120 They look very confused when they realize I'm only six feet tall.

05:12:14.400 By the way, you look much better without the makeup.

05:12:18.460 Just talking about me.

05:12:19.300 Oh, yeah.

05:12:19.640 I took my makeup.

05:12:20.200 Thank you.

05:12:20.960 Yeah.

05:12:21.120 You're like a young Kim Kardashian.

05:12:28.780 Whatever.

05:12:30.220 Yeah.

05:12:30.660 I put time into that, and I took it off.

05:12:34.360 I was expecting a little bit more praise for it.

05:12:36.340 Here, Maddie, can you read this one?

05:12:38.980 Men fall in love with looks.

05:12:40.620 That's why women wear makeup. 1.00

05:12:42.280 Women fall in love with words. 1.00

05:12:43.620 That's why men lie. 0.98

05:12:44.680 What?

05:12:47.120 I've heard this before.

05:12:48.380 Yes.

05:12:49.640 That's a good thing to read to it.

05:12:50.820 It's good.

05:12:51.240 Thank you, Jay.

05:12:52.120 That was great.

05:12:53.240 That was great.

05:12:54.100 Guys, go to twitch.com slash whatever drops a follow and a prime sub if you can.

05:13:01.160 Also, subscribe to our Clips channel, please.

05:13:06.660 Sub to our Clips channel.

05:13:07.740 There it is.

05:13:08.160 Thank you, guys.

05:13:08.640 Appreciate it.

05:13:09.460 All right.

05:13:09.640 Let me get through our notes here from people.

05:13:13.820 Maddie, you said you found your boyfriend making corn on Twitter with another girl when

05:13:16.840 he was supposed to be on a work trip.

05:13:20.160 Bro, that story, I don't even know.

05:13:24.100 Okay, basically, that happened.

05:13:26.160 We stopped seeing each other.

05:13:27.980 Big Sas Energy donated $100.

05:13:31.240 Seat number four, sing along. 0.80

05:13:33.580 Chill out.

05:13:34.300 What you yelling for?

05:13:35.960 Lay back.

05:13:36.800 It's all been done before.

05:13:38.980 And if you could only let it be, you would see I like you the way you are.

05:13:44.340 When we are driving in your car.

05:13:46.080 Read it.

05:13:46.680 Sing it.

05:13:47.140 Go.

05:13:48.160 Oh, there we go.

05:13:49.040 Here we go.

05:13:50.380 Wait, I actually don't want to sing, though.

05:13:54.100 That was so disappointing.

05:13:56.260 She cleared her throat and everything.

05:13:58.460 No.

05:13:59.560 All right.

05:13:59.980 Sorry, brother.

05:14:00.260 I've been taking singing lessons.

05:14:01.320 So, what's the story real quick?

05:14:03.500 Okay.

05:14:04.300 I was seeing a guy.

05:14:06.020 We were exclusive.

05:14:07.540 He wasn't fast enough on a comment on his Instagram.

05:14:13.140 I saw the girl's page while he was on a work trip because she said, like, poppy or something.

05:14:17.900 And I was like, huh?

05:14:19.360 Went on to her page.

05:14:20.900 She lived in the same state that he was working in.

05:14:23.600 And then I clicked on her Twitter and there was a whole lot of... 0.89

05:14:26.540 There was a whole lot of porn.

05:14:33.240 So, we stopped seeing each other.

05:14:35.520 And then they broke up a few weeks later.

05:14:38.340 I hung out with him one time. 0.99

05:14:40.040 Also, if this goes anywhere, like, in a clip or something, I will get my ass beat. 0.98

05:14:44.260 So, like... 0.98

05:14:45.040 I'm not sure what you're talking about, but...

05:14:46.880 Like...

05:14:47.320 What are you talking about?

05:14:48.680 So, then for the next two months, I got death threats from this girl.

05:14:54.200 And I don't know why.

05:14:56.320 Still don't know why.

05:14:57.520 But it's all over her Twitter.

05:14:58.920 If you go look at her Twitter. 0.99

05:15:00.280 Her threatening to kill me.

05:15:02.920 And a bunch of videos of what she wants to do to me. 0.98

05:15:05.800 Because I hung out with the guy that I was seeing at the same time as her.

05:15:09.300 That I stopped seeing.

05:15:10.340 And when they broke up, I saw him one time.

05:15:12.180 And then they got back together and never spoke to him again.

05:15:16.540 Sounds healthy.

05:15:17.180 That's a little story.

05:15:18.020 Yeah.

05:15:18.560 Sounds healthy.

05:15:19.580 Yeah, that's awful.

05:15:20.440 You said that you find the bigger you get on social media, the harder it is for me to

05:15:23.580 date.

05:15:23.920 But I'm starting to not really care.

05:15:25.820 Men were terrible to me before SW.

05:15:28.560 And now they just show who they are faster.

05:15:30.820 Saves me time.

05:15:32.020 Yeah.

05:15:32.920 Yeah.

05:15:33.620 I've dated, like, more without doing sex work than I have with doing sex work.

05:15:39.140 Obviously.

05:15:40.320 And I find the treatment very similar.

05:15:42.980 But then, like, men slip faster in the same ways that maybe would have taken them

05:15:47.860 six to nine months.

05:15:49.460 They're slipping in three months.

05:15:51.120 And it's the same behavior.

05:15:54.080 Yeah.

05:15:55.000 Yeah.

05:15:55.380 And the more I grow.

05:15:56.260 Okay.

05:15:56.460 So I've seen this other guy.

05:15:57.740 The one that I stopped seeing, like, last week.

05:15:59.580 And one of the last things he said to me, because I got recognized in a Starbucks when I was with

05:16:03.380 him by a girl.

05:16:04.300 Well, I didn't think anything of it.

05:16:06.940 And then on the phone, he said, I actually don't want to be with a girl that gets recognized

05:16:10.620 in public.

05:16:11.440 I don't want to be with a girl that makes me feel bad about myself because she's making 0.99

05:16:14.460 all this money and I'm a server.

05:16:16.020 When I told him, I don't put any importance on, like, financial stuff with men.

05:16:22.720 Because I just don't care.

05:16:24.520 If you're, like, a cool person trying to do anything with your life, it's fine.

05:16:28.040 You don't need to have all of this stuff.

05:16:29.400 And I didn't ask him for anything either.

05:16:33.080 It's beautiful.

05:16:34.240 Thank you.

05:16:34.800 Beautiful story.

05:16:36.140 Thank you.

05:16:37.600 Thank you, Maddie.

05:16:38.560 That was good.

05:16:39.520 It is a good one.

05:16:41.500 You said men were terrible.

05:16:43.100 Well, you kind of told us, but maybe, okay, we'll come back to that.

05:16:45.760 I'm bringing it over here to Meg.

05:16:50.660 So, Meg, you said dating younger men is safer.

05:16:54.740 Yeah, I think a lot of women, probably not anyone here, but a lot of women, like, try 1.00

05:17:03.540 to go for younger men or men who are less experienced because I believe that if they're

05:17:10.180 not as experienced, they're not going to trigger you as much.

05:17:13.700 So, when you date, like, an older guy who's had more experience, who's a bit more mature,

05:17:18.100 he triggers you more and it, like, makes you look more at yourself.

05:17:21.200 And some people want to avoid that, so they date younger.

05:17:26.720 So, wait, are you advocating for women to date younger?

05:17:32.740 I'm not taking a stance.

05:17:34.100 Oh, you're just kind of making an observation.

05:17:36.020 Yeah.

05:17:36.520 Okay.

05:17:39.360 So, what do you personally do?

05:17:43.180 Do you date younger men?

05:17:44.020 So, I dated a younger guy before and I didn't grow at all in the relationship because he

05:17:50.500 couldn't, like, push me or show me anything about myself.

05:17:54.100 And now, with my current partner, he's always mirroring back to me things that I can improve

05:17:59.780 about myself.

05:18:01.200 So, the easier thing to do is date younger or, like, less mature.

05:18:06.340 So, kind of are you saying that younger men are going to tolerate your bad habits?

05:18:11.960 I don't think tolerate, I think just not be aware as much.

05:18:17.260 Right.

05:18:18.160 Wait, how much older is your partner?

05:18:20.140 He's 24.

05:18:21.320 And how old are you?

05:18:22.040 22.

05:18:22.880 Oh, yeah.

05:18:24.000 Okay. 1.00

05:18:24.780 You said, you also said, all men are trash. 0.99

05:18:28.820 No, I didn't. 1.00

05:18:30.500 Wait.

05:18:31.460 You said.

05:18:31.940 I did not say that.

05:18:33.720 Well, okay.

05:18:34.400 Read the whole thing.

05:18:35.240 You're right.

05:18:35.680 Okay.

05:18:36.060 Yeah. 0.99

05:18:36.260 You said, if you think all men are trash, you're right. 1.00

05:18:41.780 Yeah. 0.95

05:18:42.560 So, I think it's Henry Ford who says, whether you think you can, you will, or whether, what

05:18:53.520 was it?

05:18:54.260 You keep messing up the quotes tonight, but.

05:18:57.260 I'm doing my best.

05:18:58.680 Those that say they can and those that say they can't are both usually right. 1.00

05:19:01.540 They're both right.

05:19:02.160 Yeah.

05:19:02.640 Okay.

05:19:03.500 So, whatever you think and feel about someone is how they have to show up for you. 0.98

05:19:08.880 So, if, like, people keep saying, like, all men are trash, all men are trash, that's the 0.99

05:19:13.480 story that they're telling themselves. 0.99

05:19:15.420 If they say, oh, all men that I see, they cheat or they're in their marriages and they're

05:19:21.080 not loyal, that's just the story that you're telling yourself.

05:19:24.080 And you can always choose to think and believe something else.

05:19:28.000 Okay.

05:19:28.220 Okay.

05:19:28.640 All right.

05:19:29.120 Yeah.

05:19:29.480 I kind of misunderstood.

05:19:31.360 Perception.

05:19:31.640 Increase your interpretive reality.

05:19:34.920 Yeah.

05:19:35.100 Okay.

05:19:35.580 All right.

05:19:37.100 You also said trust issues aren't a real thing.

05:19:40.260 What do you mean by that?

05:19:41.340 I love these.

05:19:42.820 So, I think when you're in a relationship and you choose the right partner for you, like,

05:19:49.080 you go through the extensive vetting process, you understand who they are as a person, then

05:19:54.420 when you're dating them, you shouldn't have trust issues.

05:19:57.240 You only have trust issues when you don't trust yourself to use your discernment when it comes

05:20:02.920 to your partner.

05:20:06.340 That's beautiful.

05:20:07.420 That's nice.

05:20:08.200 Thanks.

05:20:08.360 I like it.

05:20:09.020 Yeah.

05:20:09.200 All right.

05:20:09.680 Oh, question for, how do you say your name again?

05:20:13.900 Misra.

05:20:14.420 Misra.

05:20:15.400 Is that your real name?

05:20:16.700 Misra.

05:20:17.360 Or is that like a stage name?

05:20:19.180 Um, I mean.

05:20:20.660 Yeah, it's a stage name.

05:20:21.700 It's English.

05:20:23.180 No, is it a stage name?

05:20:24.780 No.

05:20:25.920 Like, it's my.

05:20:27.300 Wait, what?

05:20:27.900 Can you scoot into the table?

05:20:29.460 Yeah.

05:20:29.760 Uh, do you consider yourself traditional?

05:20:35.060 No.

05:20:36.020 Oh, okay.

05:20:36.500 All right.

05:20:37.800 Cool.

05:20:38.760 Okay.

05:20:39.800 Uh, moving to our good friend, Kala?

05:20:45.820 Kayla?

05:20:46.360 Yeah, Kayla.

05:20:47.300 Kayla, you wanted to talk about your experience as a stripper.

05:20:50.820 Yeah, um, I actually wrote a book, um, basically where, because most people think that strippers, 0.98

05:21:02.480 um, are like having sex for money or they're whores or any, you know, things like that. 0.99

05:21:07.820 And actually it's not true for the most part. 0.91

05:21:11.120 It's not true.

05:21:11.560 And I wrote a book which basically teaches women how they can use their feminine energy 0.62

05:21:16.560 energy and their power, um, to make money in the club. 0.90

05:21:24.620 Hmm.

05:21:25.420 Okay.

05:21:26.520 Oh, he's saying straight into the mic.

05:21:28.860 And so, I have a question for you.

05:21:31.260 Mm-hmm.

05:21:32.240 What, generally speaking, you don't need to go into specifics about your own experience,

05:21:36.300 unless you want to.

05:21:37.240 Okay.

05:21:37.520 What, speaking of money, what kind of money are girls making in the club? 1.00

05:21:42.340 Um, I can't speak for other girls, but I can speak for myself.

05:21:47.680 Um, so, the most money that I've brought into a club was $30,000.

05:21:53.560 In the night?

05:21:54.360 In the night.

05:21:54.840 Mm-hmm.

05:21:55.300 I made $8,000.

05:21:57.100 I brought in a friend.

05:21:58.540 She made $5,000 cash.

05:22:00.440 And then the club gets the rest, because I think he bought like two bottles, two or three

05:22:03.620 bottles.

05:22:04.600 Okay.

05:22:05.460 Nice.

05:22:06.540 Nice.

05:22:07.960 What about, how are things looking in a year?

05:22:10.360 Um, I don't really want to continue stripping, so.

05:22:15.640 Well, how long have you been doing it?

05:22:17.300 Since 2019.

05:22:20.040 Okay.

05:22:21.900 Hmm.

05:22:22.660 Okay.

05:22:23.180 Interesting.

05:22:23.820 Question.

05:22:24.480 Mm-hmm.

05:22:24.660 Like, you approach dudes, and, right?

05:22:26.660 Yeah.

05:22:26.900 You approach dudes.

05:22:27.580 All right.

05:22:28.040 Pretend I'm a trick, or a mark, or whatever they're called.

05:22:31.280 I don't even call them tricks.

05:22:33.000 Oh, okay.

05:22:33.440 Yeah.

05:22:34.780 So, how would you come up to me?

05:22:37.140 Oh, that's interesting.

05:22:37.840 Um, I'd just be like, well, I, yeah, you, you were the type that I would go up to. 1.00

05:22:43.700 What the fuck? 1.00

05:22:44.580 You are. 1.00

05:22:45.440 I'm the type?

05:22:45.980 I have a type that I would go up to in the club.

05:22:48.020 For, to get money off.

05:22:50.140 So, I just, um, if you walk in, I'd just be like, hey, like, what's your name?

05:22:55.140 Where are you from?

05:22:56.380 That's the most insulting.

05:22:57.860 What?

05:22:58.880 What?

05:22:59.200 He's the, he's the.

05:23:01.540 That's so funny.

05:23:02.260 Yeah.

05:23:02.980 Wait, why are you agreeing?

05:23:05.040 No, it's funny.

05:23:09.080 I'm sorry.

05:23:11.000 Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

05:23:12.040 So, I'd just be like, hey, like, first off, I would, like, I mean, I wouldn't grab you,

05:23:16.200 but I, I, I wouldn't grab you.

05:23:18.840 I don't grab anybody.

05:23:19.880 You took some MILF.

05:23:21.700 What?

05:23:22.420 Whoa.

05:23:23.160 Where did that come from?

05:23:24.800 So, I would just, um, I just, you know, make my presence known.

05:23:28.360 Hey, how are you?

05:23:29.740 What's your name?

05:23:30.580 Where are you from?

05:23:31.720 I'm Cornelius.

05:23:32.820 Okay.

05:23:33.340 Good to meet you.

05:23:34.720 Is it your first time here?

05:23:36.460 It's my 20th.

05:23:38.920 Oh.

05:23:39.800 So, are you a local?

05:23:41.020 Because I don't deal with locals.

05:23:43.320 No, I just drive three hours to come here to get away, because, so my wife doesn't see. 0.78

05:23:49.100 So, you, so you pretty much know how the club works.

05:23:51.540 Okay.

05:23:51.740 Um, it's kind of hard when they kind of know how the club works, because when they don't

05:23:57.420 know, I feel like you can, like.

05:23:59.240 You can finesse?

05:24:00.060 You can finesse more.

05:24:01.540 How do you finesse?

05:24:03.160 Finesse me.

05:24:03.780 Let's see it.

05:24:04.200 Okay.

05:24:04.620 Oh, so, oh, yeah, um, it's my first time.

05:24:08.080 Oh.

05:24:08.720 It's your first time?

05:24:09.340 Okay.

05:24:09.720 Yeah.

05:24:10.120 Well, okay, so here's the thing.

05:24:11.520 So, where I'm working now, they have set prices.

05:24:14.180 Okay.

05:24:14.420 Set price?

05:24:15.440 Set price for, like, an hour is $600.

05:24:17.700 Now, when I worked at another club that didn't have set prices, you can, like, literally go

05:24:23.380 in and you can just say, like, for an hour, for example, in the hour VIP room, I just

05:24:28.420 go in there with a guy and I just throw a number out there.

05:24:30.420 $4,000.

05:24:31.220 Either he's going to do it or he's not.

05:24:33.280 Where I'm working now, you can't do that.

05:24:35.800 So, um.

05:24:36.140 Okay.

05:24:36.340 Basically, how I would finesse you, if I wanted more out of a $600 room, I would just say

05:24:43.100 things like, um, like, okay, the club's going to take a percentage of my money, can you make

05:24:51.840 it an even thousand, can you tip me $400?

05:24:54.840 And they do.

05:24:56.620 And sometimes they tip more.

05:25:00.380 Cool.

05:25:01.320 Mm-hmm.

05:25:01.980 But, like, let's do a role play here.

05:25:03.780 So, like, let's actually role play.

05:25:06.440 Okay, so I'm in the club.

05:25:11.040 That's how you're in the club?

05:25:13.420 You're in the club like that?

05:25:16.380 What?

05:25:18.080 Me. 0.97

05:25:21.440 Oh, look at the titties. 1.00

05:25:25.200 Like, you're coming at me like that? 0.87

05:25:27.160 No, just, that's, I'm just like, oh, the club.

05:25:30.080 Oh, oh.

05:25:33.060 So, like, you're coming in like you don't know nothing. 0.99

05:25:35.720 Like, like, like an airhead? 0.94

05:25:36.680 Just, just, just, just, just role play it. 0.94

05:25:38.160 Just role play it.

05:25:39.040 If you, well, if you came at me like that.

05:25:41.360 Bro, I'm just like, I'm just like a naive white boy. 0.95

05:25:43.780 That's it.

05:25:44.280 Just come up to me. 0.98

05:25:45.780 Naive white boy. 0.98

05:25:47.360 Okay. 0.99

05:25:47.840 Like I said, what's your name?

05:25:48.880 Where are you from?

05:25:49.560 Have you been here before?

05:25:50.520 Have you seen the rooms?

05:25:51.220 Hey, yo.

05:25:52.040 My name is Henry.

05:25:53.680 Okay, Henry.

05:25:54.460 The fifth.

05:25:55.040 Are you ready to have some fun tonight?

05:25:56.520 Ooh.

05:25:56.780 What kind of fun?

05:25:59.000 Oh.

05:26:01.700 Well, what kind of fun are you looking to get into?

05:26:07.660 I don't know.

05:26:09.140 What does the missus provide for the services? 0.98

05:26:15.080 Well, come here and let me show you.

05:26:18.260 Let me take you to our VIP.

05:26:20.740 Ah.

05:26:21.780 Can you tell me more about this VIP section?

05:26:24.360 So that's what, so basically, this is what I tell guys.

05:26:28.400 I'm British, by the way.

05:26:29.340 This is what I tell guys.

05:26:30.820 And it's not true because where we work, where I work, you're not allowed to get naked.

05:26:36.240 You're not even allowed to wear a G string.

05:26:39.000 Yeah.

05:26:39.520 Yeah.

05:26:39.780 They're real strict. 1.00

05:26:41.000 What if we're in the VIP room, my dear, and I want to have sexual intercourse with you? 0.99

05:26:47.580 Oh, that's not going to happen. 0.97

05:26:49.100 I thought in the, what's that song by, is it Chris Rock?

05:26:53.740 It's like sex in the champagne, something about the champagne room.

05:26:57.480 What is it? 0.65

05:26:58.260 I don't know.

05:26:59.120 I don't think I've heard that.

05:27:00.320 But no, you're not having sex with anybody in that club.

05:27:05.380 What about after?

05:27:08.100 No. 1.00

05:27:08.540 I would like, my dear, to have sexual intercourse with you after the club. 1.00

05:27:14.440 Pay me money right now, and then maybe I'll come. 1.00

05:27:18.640 But then I really don't come.

05:27:20.100 Yep.

05:27:20.500 I'm about to say that she goes.

05:27:21.440 That sounds like my ex-girlfriend right there. 1.00

05:27:24.380 She never came.

05:27:26.440 Now it became Australian.

05:27:27.580 I don't know.

05:27:27.840 So they're like super desperate about wanting to hang out with me after the club.

05:27:32.020 And if I know that I can get them to get me money in the club.

05:27:35.500 Okay.

05:27:35.920 It's kind of game.

05:27:37.320 It's just trickery, honestly.

05:27:39.480 Cool.

05:27:41.880 That was enlightening. 0.99

05:27:45.400 Damn. 1.00

05:27:45.680 It's just a game. 0.99

05:27:46.660 You said you regret working in the industry, though.

05:27:49.020 Why don't you tell us about that?

05:27:50.200 I mean, I don't really regret it.

05:27:52.320 Oh, okay.

05:27:54.120 I just think that I've grown tired of it.

05:27:59.780 Even though I make good money.

05:28:01.620 Even on nights where I make good money, I'm still like over it.

05:28:05.760 And I just think that comes with just being in the industry.

05:28:09.720 I mean, no.

05:28:10.560 Have you ever had a sugar daddy?

05:28:12.500 You know what?

05:28:13.220 No, but there was this guy that I met last week.

05:28:17.680 He's actually a YouTuber.

05:28:19.940 He wanted, he was telling me he was on this site.

05:28:24.920 Seeking?

05:28:25.760 Seeking, yeah.

05:28:26.540 And he was like, have you heard of this site?

05:28:27.700 And I was like, no, I've never heard of it.

05:28:29.200 And he was like, well, you know what?

05:28:30.920 Like, I'm a YouTuber now.

05:28:32.600 I'm making all this money.

05:28:33.740 Like, I want to take care of a woman. 1.00

05:28:36.080 I'm like, okay.

05:28:37.100 And he's like, I want to take care of you because you're smart.

05:28:39.240 You're the first woman who came up to me.

05:28:40.340 I think you're smart.

05:28:41.460 You have a book out there.

05:28:42.600 And you're on YouTube.

05:28:44.480 I want you to be my sugar baby or whatever.

05:28:48.200 So basically, I was supposed to hang out with him on Sunday, right?

05:28:56.960 He was going to take me to dinner.

05:28:58.220 And he told me, he was like, you know, I'll pay you to take you to dinner.

05:29:01.040 Long story short, I didn't go because I just didn't want to.

05:29:12.560 And he ended up sending me $500 because I still asked him, can he send me $500 so I can,

05:29:16.420 you know, use it to get out here because he knows I'm on this show.

05:29:18.880 He just sent you $500?

05:29:27.500 Yeah.

05:29:27.780 I literally showed you the message.

05:29:29.180 He just literally sent me $500.

05:29:31.120 So that's the only sugar daddy situation?

05:29:33.540 Well, he wasn't even really a sugar daddy because I never even met him.

05:29:36.640 Oh, okay.

05:29:37.060 You said you had a sugar daddy situation too?

05:29:39.280 Yeah.

05:29:40.220 How many sugar daddies have you had? 1.00

05:29:42.760 One long term.

05:29:43.960 And then I've done like a few like dinner dates.

05:29:46.980 Going back to you really quick, how many, actually show of hands, any other girls here 1.00

05:29:51.620 had a sugar daddy ever?

05:29:55.180 No?

05:29:55.840 Come on.

05:29:56.160 You've had a sugar daddy, right?

05:29:58.540 I wouldn't like count it as that.

05:30:00.440 What do you, what did you count it as?

05:30:02.480 Whatever it was.

05:30:04.000 Was it?

05:30:05.140 I said it last time I was here.

05:30:07.080 I forgot.

05:30:07.780 Sorry.

05:30:08.260 It was like.

05:30:08.800 Oh, you've been on?

05:30:09.320 No, I'm just kidding.

05:30:09.740 It was like, um, this dude asked if he could like pay me to like send a voice memo over 1.00

05:30:20.500 Instagram saying he has a small dick. 1.00

05:30:23.060 Oh, wow. 1.00

05:30:24.760 And actually, after I went on this podcast, some random person Venmo made $500.

05:30:30.200 What?

05:30:31.120 Yeah.

05:30:31.840 So shout out to that man. 0.80

05:30:32.560 Wait, what's the, give us a little more details than that.

05:30:34.560 So I was like checking my Venmo and then I was like, Whoa, why do I have $500 in here?

05:30:39.640 And I saw that a random person sent me $500 with a rose.

05:30:43.980 So then I did like FBI investigation.

05:30:46.860 Then I went on his profile.

05:30:48.280 I found his mom.

05:30:49.100 Then I found his mom's Instagram.

05:30:50.380 Then I found his, his Instagram from his mom.

05:30:53.440 Then I saw that he followed the whatever podcast.

05:30:55.320 I was like, okay, that makes sense.

05:30:57.340 Did you message him?

05:30:58.420 No.

05:30:59.240 I thought it was a scam.

05:31:00.060 I called my mom and I was like, is this real?

05:31:02.300 Like, can you take money back from Venmo?

05:31:04.220 That's an L for, if you're watching right now, dude, that's a, that's an L.

05:31:07.520 Please don't know me.

05:31:08.560 He sent you five.

05:31:10.280 $500.

05:31:12.140 Did it say like in the Met, the memo, whatever podcast?

05:31:16.220 No, it was a rose.

05:31:17.960 What?

05:31:18.560 And I, I mean, it went through.

05:31:20.360 It's in my bank account. 0.99

05:31:21.340 Damn. 1.00

05:31:22.280 Simp. 1.00

05:31:23.780 Simp.

05:31:24.680 That's it though.

05:31:25.420 And then you said there, you, a guy paid you how much to say he had a small ween?

05:31:29.320 I don't know, like a hundred or $200.

05:31:31.180 And I was like, that's crazy, dude.

05:31:35.160 I want to finesse.

05:31:36.340 I would love to finesse women in this way. 1.00

05:31:38.580 Like where's all the women sliding into my DMs wanting, I'll degrade. 1.00

05:31:44.220 Actually, I don't know. 0.74

05:31:46.020 That's, I don't know if I want to, is that sex work to do that?

05:31:50.220 Yeah.

05:31:51.040 I don't know if I want to be classified as a sex worker.

05:31:53.400 Yeah.

05:31:53.620 I had an opportunity like that.

05:31:54.940 I don't know if I, I, the whole degradation thing's kind of weird to me, but, um, where's

05:32:01.600 all I want, at least I want the option to say no, at least like, I want to at least have

05:32:07.680 women like Mies, Miesra, Miesra, Miesra. 1.00

05:32:12.680 Why can't you just fucking message me? 1.00

05:32:16.220 Be like, yo, Brian, can you just like cuss at me or some shit? 0.99

05:32:18.620 And I want to be like, no, here's $300. 0.99

05:32:22.560 Oh, no.

05:32:23.620 I want to do the reverse, I want to do the reverse finesse.

05:32:31.540 Yeah.

05:32:31.900 Like y'all be getting all these dudes.

05:32:34.520 It's got to funnel up to me.

05:32:37.560 Bro, but you have like these kind of girls on your podcast, so you get more views. 1.00

05:32:41.480 Like you're finessing.

05:32:44.960 Like you're still using like girls and sex work for views. 0.96

05:32:49.740 I guess she's right. 1.00

05:32:51.260 Damn, you're in sex work. 1.00

05:32:52.800 Oh, no, not really. 1.00

05:32:54.620 I'm in podcast.

05:32:57.240 You're capitalizing on us.

05:32:59.520 Podcast.

05:33:00.100 Oh, wait.

05:33:00.520 Yeah.

05:33:00.700 Capitalize.

05:33:02.560 Boom.

05:33:03.260 But wait.

05:33:03.820 So, okay.

05:33:04.280 Sugar daddy.

05:33:05.420 What about you?

05:33:06.260 Ever had sugar daddy scenario? 1.00

05:33:08.060 Sold feet pics, 300 bucks, that kind of shit. 0.99

05:33:10.520 No, I got a lot of messages from like people claiming to be sugar daddies, but I felt like 0.99

05:33:15.260 it was always just fake.

05:33:16.920 I've gotten a lot of those too.

05:33:18.300 When I was single, I actually considered it.

05:33:25.660 I didn't.

05:33:26.700 What about you?

05:33:27.340 Any sugar daddies?

05:33:28.540 I know.

05:33:28.860 You got some.

05:33:30.160 You got some.

05:33:31.060 You got some.

05:33:31.080 A few, but before, obviously.

05:33:37.520 Before?

05:33:37.980 Before my relationship.

05:33:40.440 When you break up with this guy, are you going back to OnlyFans?

05:33:43.020 I mean, I'm, I'm not thinking of breaking up.

05:33:50.400 Is that why you stopped doing OnlyFans?

05:33:52.120 Because of your new relationship?

05:33:53.640 And he didn't like it?

05:33:54.840 I just like, it felt like, like I was just bored. 0.89

05:33:58.080 Of taking naked photos of yourself?

05:34:01.700 It's a lot of work.

05:34:03.860 Like, it's really time consuming.

05:34:09.020 Okay.

05:34:09.460 Mentally, I'd say it's exhausting, honestly.

05:34:13.940 Yeah, like it's, it's a lot.

05:34:15.880 And especially like, because like my family's Turkish.

05:34:19.400 So it's like a lot of.

05:34:20.880 They would disown you?

05:34:23.180 They already did.

05:34:23.920 They already did?

05:34:24.640 Whoa.

05:34:25.160 Okay.

05:34:25.520 That's new.

05:34:26.540 Yeah.

05:34:26.780 I don't talk to any of my family members, but.

05:34:29.020 Was it worth it?

05:34:30.340 It wasn't for that.

05:34:31.800 Oh, why?

05:34:32.280 They disowned you for what?

05:34:35.360 Did you stab somebody?

05:34:37.040 No.

05:34:37.560 Let's go deep here.

05:34:38.360 Let's figure this out.

05:34:39.900 Okay.

05:34:40.480 So we're ruling out stabbing, correct?

05:34:43.840 So no stabbings occurred.

05:34:45.720 Have you.

05:34:47.480 Did you commit treason?

05:34:49.400 Any acts of treason?

05:34:51.580 High treason?

05:34:52.900 Low treason?

05:34:54.720 Medium treason?

05:34:59.440 Any violent acts of, you know, no violence?

05:35:02.480 Yes.

05:35:05.100 You.

05:35:11.540 It's something you're not going to be able to guess.

05:35:14.080 Oh, you should just tell me then.

05:35:16.040 I just, I want to let you do it.

05:35:18.380 You want me to guess?

05:35:19.500 Thank God.

05:35:20.000 You burned a Turkish flag.

05:35:27.680 Is that illegal?

05:35:29.320 I don't know if it's illegal, but you bring great dishonor to family.

05:35:33.180 No.

05:35:34.720 It wasn't like, it was something deep. 0.99

05:35:36.960 You are a witch and put a curse on somebody. 0.99

05:35:43.500 Yeah. 0.99

05:35:45.640 Can you just tell us what it is?

05:35:47.160 No.

05:35:48.880 I'm sorry.

05:35:50.060 Wait, you got to speak into the mic.

05:35:52.420 Why were you, can you tell us the theme of why you were disowned?

05:35:57.800 Um.

05:36:00.260 By both parents?

05:36:01.820 Whole family?

05:36:02.780 It's my whole family, so even like my extended.

05:36:05.240 It wasn't the OnlyFans?

05:36:06.460 Huh?

05:36:06.880 It wasn't the OnlyFans?

05:36:08.160 No, but they were pretty close about that afterwards.

05:36:08.960 Let me, wait, I have something, I have something here. 0.99

05:36:11.100 On your OnlyFans, it says perkiest tits on OnlyFans. 0.99

05:36:15.120 Your words, not mine. 0.99

05:36:16.420 Was it, was it because of the perkiest tits thing? 1.00

05:36:20.120 No. 0.99

05:36:21.760 Is that, wait.

05:36:23.460 So, okay, what was it?

05:36:24.400 Just tell us.

05:36:25.760 No, like.

05:36:26.800 It was, it's like nothing that I can say on camera. 0.95

05:36:29.800 Did you like kick a baby in the face?

05:36:32.200 It wasn't anything that I did. 0.97

05:36:34.020 What?

05:36:34.640 That doesn't make sense.

05:36:35.240 It was, it was something that was done to me.

05:36:38.100 Oh.

05:36:39.060 So sorry.

05:36:40.040 It was something like that was like done to me and then like they, like it was just like

05:36:43.760 a religious, like it was just like a different perspective.

05:36:47.180 And so, there it was.

05:36:51.480 Like that was it.

05:36:53.340 Were you assaulted?

05:36:54.180 Thomas the Poet donated $99. 0.99

05:36:58.780 I fucking love Maddie. 0.98

05:37:00.640 I totally would simp for her. 0.99

05:37:02.440 Which one?

05:37:02.840 She rocks my world. 0.86

05:37:04.700 Maddie is curse lit.

05:37:06.820 I assume it's this Maddie here.

05:37:09.220 Do you know who Thomas the Poet is?

05:37:10.900 I have no idea.

05:37:12.260 That's so nice. 0.78

05:37:13.580 What the heck?

05:37:15.960 Thank you, Thomas.

05:37:16.940 Was it a, was it a, you didn't want to do an arranged marriage?

05:37:21.840 No.

05:37:24.160 Give it, give us a hint.

05:37:26.000 The one previous to what you said was correct.

05:37:28.560 Oh.

05:37:29.340 Yeah.

05:37:29.660 That's why I like, I'd rather not.

05:37:31.160 Okay.

05:37:31.720 All right.

05:37:33.700 Well, sorry to hear that.

05:37:35.160 It's okay.

05:37:36.860 Does your, your family, they live in Turkey?

05:37:39.680 No.

05:37:40.300 My mom and my stepdad live in like the U.S. 0.90

05:37:45.000 And then all my other family members are in Turkey.

05:37:48.160 Wait.

05:37:48.660 I mean, not that I want to linger on this conversation for too long.

05:37:52.620 And I'm sorry that.

05:37:53.920 And I have no problem.

05:37:54.480 If it's what I think it is.

05:37:56.400 No, I.

05:37:57.980 Is that a thing where I've heard of this maybe?

05:38:05.480 Wait.

05:38:05.920 You were disowned because you were S-A-ed?

05:38:11.040 Is that it? 0.78

05:38:15.980 Did that occur before or after your sex addiction?

05:38:21.820 It was from ages 6 to 12.

05:38:24.420 So.

05:38:25.760 Yeah, that was like way before.

05:38:27.760 But that's why like I don't have any.

05:38:28.820 So you've, you were orphaned at.

05:38:31.220 I wasn't orphaned.

05:38:33.140 I'm confused.

05:38:34.060 I told like my aunt and then she was like, oh, it's normal in Turkey.

05:38:39.440 To be disowned by your family?

05:38:41.440 No, to, to be S-A-ed.

05:38:43.620 So that I continue.

05:38:43.880 I don't think that's normal.

05:38:45.500 Like that's why I would continue.

05:38:47.400 But no.

05:38:49.220 Then my mom and I were like still close.

05:38:51.740 And then we just get into like mom and daughter fights.

05:38:54.600 That's it.

05:38:57.120 All right.

05:38:57.700 Moving on.

05:38:58.340 Sorry to hear that.

05:38:59.520 Okay.

05:38:59.880 So sugar daddy.

05:39:02.060 Wait, did, did we talk about you had a sugar daddy?

05:39:04.800 Yeah.

05:39:06.160 A few.

05:39:07.020 A few.

05:39:07.820 Here and there.

05:39:08.400 Question for you.

05:39:09.260 What is in, in one transaction, what's the most that you've ever received from a sugar daddy

05:39:14.000 into the mic?

05:39:14.620 I think 10 or 15.

05:39:22.100 $1,000.

05:39:23.040 Yes.

05:39:26.580 What's the most total you've received from one?

05:39:34.000 What's the most total?

05:39:35.260 Like, so you said in one transaction, they sent you like $10,000 or $15,000, but let's

05:39:41.900 say they sent you, maybe they sent you 5,000 here, 3,000 there, a thousand here.

05:39:46.920 If you were added all up for just one, what's the most total?

05:39:53.580 I'm not sure.

05:39:54.640 I think it would be more than six figures, like over a hundred thousand dollars.

05:39:59.420 No, no, definitely not.

05:40:00.740 More than $50,000 from just one.

05:40:03.540 No.

05:40:04.120 Oh, okay.

05:40:04.680 More than $20,000?

05:40:07.640 Like around there.

05:40:10.240 Okay.

05:40:11.880 All right.

05:40:12.520 What about you?

05:40:13.480 Like around a hundred.

05:40:14.660 Wait, in one transaction or overall?

05:40:16.260 One transaction.

05:40:17.300 Oh.

05:40:25.680 Sorry.

05:40:26.700 I'm trying to think of everything.

05:40:30.020 Honestly, my long-term one got me like the most stuff.

05:40:33.180 But like at a time and maybe like two, three thousand, you know, but then he also like paid

05:40:39.100 for everything.

05:40:39.740 And then like my, bought me a laptop, this, that, anything.

05:40:43.780 So biggest individual transaction was one or $2,000?

05:40:47.700 No, like two to three, but.

05:40:49.660 What about total?

05:40:51.280 Like around a hundred.

05:40:52.480 A hundred thousand?

05:40:53.520 Yeah. 1.00

05:40:53.780 Damn. 1.00

05:40:56.500 Yeah. 1.00

05:40:56.960 Damn. 1.00

05:40:58.860 Damn, son. 1.00

05:41:00.000 Yeah. 1.00

05:41:01.060 He still hits me up.

05:41:02.420 Still?

05:41:03.060 Yeah.

05:41:03.560 I still make him Venmo me sometimes.

05:41:05.800 But you don't, what, have you met him in person?

05:41:08.320 Yeah, I dated him.

05:41:09.620 Oh.

05:41:10.380 Okay.

05:41:11.520 So you guys were.

05:41:12.420 For like a long time.

05:41:14.340 But he's also your sugar daddy.

05:41:15.980 He was my sugar daddy.

05:41:16.800 Yeah.

05:41:17.200 I see.

05:41:17.520 And then I ended up dating him, but he still paid for everything.

05:41:19.860 Where's all, where's all the women trying to pay me to date me? 1.00

05:41:24.540 You know?

05:41:25.060 You can probably find it.

05:41:26.020 Go on Seeking.

05:41:27.000 Make a profile.

05:41:28.060 There's also girls that like want to be sugar mamas. 1.00

05:41:32.140 I've been there.

05:41:32.920 Yeah, it's a thing.

05:41:34.520 It's not like it doesn't exist.

05:41:36.980 I'm just saying a hundred K, you know, listen, you want to throw a bit of that my way.

05:41:40.440 I'm cool with that.

05:41:41.420 If you want to, you know, these women, they, I don't know. 1.00

05:41:44.860 They're not.

05:41:47.760 Yeah.

05:41:48.740 It's crazy.

05:41:49.680 You're not willing to put in as much financial effort as men are. 1.00

05:41:54.100 To what?

05:41:55.300 The ladies.

05:41:56.760 Not willing to put in.

05:41:57.320 Like, even if you get a girl who DMs you, they're, they're not even going to like, like

05:42:03.880 a dude.

05:42:04.520 If you give a, say a dude DMs you and you're down to meet him, he'll either fly you out

05:42:10.840 or he'll fly to you.

05:42:11.960 Yeah.

05:42:12.980 But like a girl could DM a dude, bro. 0.66

05:42:19.180 She still wants you to pay for the flight.

05:42:21.280 Yeah.

05:42:21.820 She ain't, she ain't paying for the flight.

05:42:23.180 Yeah.

05:42:24.280 I've had it.

05:42:25.180 Well, actually that's not true.

05:42:26.280 Have you ever paid to fly girl out?

05:42:28.980 I've had, so I've had women fly out to come see me. 0.97

05:42:31.820 But they paid for it?

05:42:33.180 Mm-hmm.

05:42:33.760 Knowing them they're desperate for you.

05:42:35.660 Hot.

05:42:36.020 I've had that.

05:42:40.040 But, yeah.

05:42:42.760 Good talk.

05:42:43.680 That was nice.

05:42:44.680 That was a good talk.

05:42:45.520 Okay.

05:42:45.720 What else?

05:42:46.100 Let me see what else.

05:42:47.100 We have, okay, we did that.

05:42:49.880 We have Jordan here.

05:42:51.820 Jordan says, back when I wasn't a Christian, I was very promiscuous.

05:42:57.920 How so?

05:43:00.520 I went on a lot of dates without the intention to be in a relationship.

05:43:07.080 One night stands.

05:43:08.380 Things like that.

05:43:11.940 You had a lot of one night stands?

05:43:13.420 Is that what you're saying?

05:43:14.060 I've had, yeah, in the past.

05:43:15.860 Okay.

05:43:16.340 Yeah.

05:43:18.280 Let's see.

05:43:18.840 You had some other disagreements here that you listed.

05:43:23.180 SL underscore I dot D dot underscore 272 A 39 D F 91 B 5 3,716 donated $100.

05:43:34.760 Let you cook Brian.

05:43:36.500 Pick a subject that works for the man.

05:43:39.760 Yeah, I'd like to hear.

05:43:40.620 I'd like, yeah, let's get, let's get Q in here in just a sec.

05:43:45.200 Really quick, just since we have the chats coming, Maddie, can I have you read this one

05:43:49.640 that's about to come up from the Pope who donated $50?

05:43:54.000 Peace to the Saints.

05:43:55.120 That girl on the far right got caught lying about Marquette Burton after the show, saying 0.90

05:44:00.760 that he subscribed to her. 0.99

05:44:02.080 One of Marquette's songs say, you'd be a fool if you trust her. 0.99

05:44:05.560 Actually, that's not what I said. 0.94

05:44:07.620 So after the show, Marquette DM'd me and he asked how old I was.

05:44:12.120 And when I said I was 21, he said, when are you coming to Vegas?

05:44:15.800 Do you want to link with a cheersing emoji?

05:44:18.400 When I didn't reply, he unsent the message and then said like hours later for a podcast 0.98

05:44:24.960 because he know that he got caught trying to fuck in OnlyFans girl. 0.93

05:44:29.280 He didn't subscribe to my page. 0.99

05:44:32.240 Okay.

05:44:33.180 So yeah, he doesn't practice what he preaches.

05:44:35.220 Well, he's not here to defend himself.

05:44:41.160 I have receipts.

05:44:42.760 Okay.

05:44:45.980 Cool.

05:44:47.060 Good times.

05:44:51.920 Where were we?

05:44:52.920 Oh, Jordan.

05:44:54.200 Jordan.

05:44:54.720 We're back to Jordan.

05:44:55.820 And then I need to get...

05:44:56.860 Okay.

05:44:57.020 You said that Brian mentioned that women should be drafted.

05:45:01.200 I highly disagree with that.

05:45:03.680 Yeah.

05:45:04.280 Let's go around the table on that, starting with Jordan.

05:45:06.260 Should women be drafted to the military? 1.00

05:45:10.840 No.

05:45:12.220 The same way that men could be drafted to the military?

05:45:17.520 No.

05:45:19.060 Pointing at you?

05:45:20.520 Um, I don't really know.

05:45:24.480 I don't really have an opinion on that.

05:45:25.840 You don't have an opinion?

05:45:27.240 Okay.

05:45:27.640 So we go to war, right?

05:45:30.720 You're 18, you said?

05:45:32.260 Mm-hmm.

05:45:32.480 Okay.

05:45:32.860 Drafting age.

05:45:33.460 Cool.

05:45:34.160 So we go to war.

05:45:35.820 Right now, currently, only men can get drafted into the military.

05:45:40.600 You say you don't have an opinion about it.

05:45:44.160 Let's say, you know, there was a risk of them equalizing the draft.

05:45:50.700 You have any opinions on it?

05:45:52.620 Okay, wait.

05:45:53.320 No, I don't think they should.

05:45:55.160 Sorry, I did not understand your question, at first.

05:45:58.760 Okay.

05:45:59.660 So being forced to go into the military?

05:46:01.940 Yeah, I thought that now, yeah.

05:46:03.220 Okay.

05:46:03.580 What about you?

05:46:04.320 No.

05:46:05.000 Okay, what about you?

05:46:05.900 No.

05:46:06.300 What about you?

05:46:09.340 No.

05:46:10.940 No.

05:46:12.380 Wow, we have no feminists at this table. 1.00

05:46:14.760 That's crazy.

05:46:15.960 That's crazy.

05:46:17.180 I thought some of you might have been feminists. 1.00

05:46:19.660 You disagree with my position?

05:46:22.220 Why?

05:46:23.460 I mean, we're not as strong as men, realistically.

05:46:27.380 If you're fighting a war.

05:46:28.600 You can pull a trigger.

05:46:31.160 In any way, running, endurance, stamina, anything.

05:46:35.040 Equality. 0.95

05:46:35.940 Okay, then more women are just going to die and not benefit the war. 1.00

05:46:39.300 Also, just mentally and emotionally, we're not as strong.

05:46:42.220 Like, I would say, like, it would honestly be so much more trauma for us to deal with

05:46:47.520 afterwards.

05:46:47.960 Yeah, we should protect men from that.

05:46:49.640 Okay, but you have to protect the women.

05:46:51.760 And I agree with you, and I do agree.

05:46:54.780 It should be equal, right?

05:46:55.820 No, not on that part.

05:46:56.600 Well, women are the ones that make children. 1.00

05:46:58.820 So?

05:47:00.680 So?

05:47:01.420 What if I was supposed to protect the women?

05:47:04.880 Huh?

05:47:05.080 You protect the women, men go to war. 0.92

05:47:07.200 Like, that's how it goes.

05:47:08.480 Well, we send the ones who don't want kids to live. 0.92

05:47:10.080 I thought it was equality.

05:47:11.220 I thought we have equality now.

05:47:13.360 Within reason.

05:47:13.780 None of us are feminists. 1.00

05:47:14.700 What do you mean within?

05:47:15.180 This is the wrong crowd.

05:47:16.360 Some women here are probably feminists. 1.00

05:47:18.040 They just haven't.

05:47:18.680 Does it genuinely make sense to send an equal amount of-

05:47:22.180 Yes.

05:47:22.540 To fight for our country when it literally would put us back physically.

05:47:27.780 No, check this out, right?

05:47:28.640 I actually think it makes more sense.

05:47:30.740 We send-

05:47:31.760 Maybe this is some-

05:47:32.640 I don't know anything about military strategy.

05:47:34.780 We send the women in first to kind of weaken up them. 1.00

05:47:38.040 Then the men- 0.98

05:47:38.640 After all the women die, then the men come in, and we can scorch them. 1.00

05:47:42.300 Right? 1.00

05:47:42.700 If you killed all the women, how do we procreate? 1.00

05:47:45.480 Right. 1.00

05:47:45.960 Yeah, you're literally willing to throw away our chance of procreating.

05:47:51.580 Period.

05:47:52.900 What?

05:47:53.880 I didn't say, send all the women.

05:47:56.520 Just like maybe 50% of them. 1.00

05:47:57.680 You literally said, and I quote, kill all the women. 1.00

05:48:01.080 Send 50% of them. 1.00

05:48:03.160 It's great.

05:48:04.020 Brian, respectfully.

05:48:05.340 Respectfully?

05:48:05.960 No.

05:48:06.760 Respectfully?

05:48:08.280 Listen, okay.

05:48:10.100 I think as a matter of fairness and equality, equality, women should be drafted. 1.00

05:48:17.000 Okay, but it hasn't been fair for how long?

05:48:19.600 No, I'm egalitarian.

05:48:21.240 What's that?

05:48:21.680 But that's not how this world works.

05:48:25.220 Oh, I don't care about Scandinavia.

05:48:27.120 You're arguing for fighting for our country.

05:48:29.960 Yes.

05:48:30.280 You would want to use the strongest, most fit.

05:48:32.920 We're strong, independent, boss babes. 0.99

05:48:35.180 Women are strong, boss bitches, boss babes. 1.00

05:48:42.900 You guys can go to war. 1.00

05:48:44.760 No.

05:48:44.980 Go into the, you know.

05:48:46.020 You're just trolling now.

05:48:47.080 I'm not trolling.

05:48:47.720 I'm dead serious.

05:48:48.380 No, you're trolling.

05:48:48.840 No, I swear to God, I'm not trolling.

05:48:50.400 No, you're 100% trolling.

05:48:51.780 I'm not trolling.

05:48:52.820 I'm not trolling.

05:48:53.100 You know that women shouldn't go to war. 1.00

05:48:54.960 You know that it would literally put us back.

05:48:57.520 How would it put us back?

05:48:59.120 We're not as strong as men.

05:49:01.740 Bro.

05:49:02.080 Physically.

05:49:02.820 What's that saying?

05:49:04.520 God made men unequal.

05:49:10.460 Smith and Wesson.

05:49:12.260 Oh, Jesus Christ. 1.00

05:49:13.260 I always fuck this one up. 0.99

05:49:14.420 God. 1.00

05:49:14.520 Damn, missing up all your quotes tonight. 1.00

05:49:17.780 Firearms made humans equal. 1.00

05:49:21.520 Okay, a woman is capable of depressing a trigger just as well. 1.00

05:49:26.040 Yeah, but that is literally saying if you sat in one position, war was sitting in one position

05:49:31.200 and just sitting there.

05:49:33.000 What do you mean?

05:49:33.220 It's not in the counting carrying the guns.

05:49:35.700 Women can't carry as heavy equipment for as long. 1.00

05:49:38.560 So?

05:49:39.280 We can't.

05:49:40.580 So?

05:49:40.940 So why would you send more unfit people to fight for something to actually fight?

05:49:47.760 Because equality. 1.00

05:49:48.820 No, because stupidity. 1.00

05:49:50.740 No, because equality. 1.00

05:49:51.580 No, because stupidity. 1.00

05:49:52.980 Well, then why are women allowed to volunteer for the military? 1.00

05:49:56.720 Because that's their choice to make.

05:49:58.240 Let me ask you a question, though.

05:50:00.540 Would you object to us preventing women from volunteering for the military?

05:50:06.820 Honestly?

05:50:08.300 Okay.

05:50:09.020 All right.

05:50:09.400 Yeah.

05:50:09.660 There it is.

05:50:10.200 Yeah.

05:50:11.140 Honestly, yeah.

05:50:12.080 Okay.

05:50:12.680 Why?

05:50:13.400 Because men are supposed to protect women and our country so that women can have kids 0.98

05:50:20.820 and be caregivers to the children and take care of the home.

05:50:24.080 Okay, but you're talking about, for example, let's go back to the most recent draft.

05:50:27.820 Who's going to watch the kids, by the way?

05:50:29.060 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

05:50:29.420 Let's go back to the most recent draft, right?

05:50:31.180 The Vietnam War.

05:50:32.060 So this was not like a massive, granted, a lot of men were drafted in the Vietnam War, but

05:50:37.920 it wasn't like we didn't send all the men to Vietnam.

05:50:41.920 So let's say we were in a conflict like Vietnam again, and we drafted, I would actually be 1.00

05:50:47.920 curious if you can look up the exact numbers, how many troops we sent over to Vietnam, how

05:50:52.700 many of which were drafted.

05:50:53.980 Let's say we drafted 100,000 women to go to Vietnam. 1.00

05:50:57.480 That wouldn't have any real impact, like we wouldn't be able to repopulate, like that

05:51:01.920 would have no real impact, you know, in terms of, oh, all the women are gone, we can't repopulate 1.00

05:51:07.440 our nation.

05:51:09.140 Are you saying like 100,000 men, 100,000 women go?

05:51:12.320 Sure.

05:51:12.860 Equal amounts?

05:51:13.500 Sure.

05:51:14.120 That are drafted against their will.

05:51:15.880 It's a very soft version of population control there, buddy.

05:51:18.360 It's fine.

05:51:18.940 That makes no sense, but okay.

05:51:19.840 It's fine.

05:51:20.460 Yes, it does.

05:51:21.400 There's 200,000 people, and half of your entire army is less fit for the job.

05:51:27.940 Why would you want that for your country?

05:51:29.320 That's really a sexist statement for you to say.

05:51:31.720 No, it's not.

05:51:32.500 That's so sexist.

05:51:33.860 No, it's not.

05:51:34.520 It's scientifically proven that men are stronger than women. 0.99

05:51:38.020 Oh, I agree with you.

05:51:38.660 And any time a woman literally killed herself trying to climb Mount Everest.

05:51:42.040 Check this out.

05:51:43.080 By herself or something to prove that she could do it.

05:51:45.400 A woman-led group.

05:51:46.420 How about this?

05:51:47.080 Dead.

05:51:47.240 How about this?

05:51:47.840 Let's say, then how about...

05:51:49.560 Finito.

05:51:50.060 We draft women into support roles. 1.00

05:51:53.940 Okay, that's fine.

05:51:54.920 We need military nurses. 1.00

05:51:56.340 We need support roles.

05:51:57.120 That's fine.

05:51:57.660 Oh, I'm okay with that.

05:51:58.940 Okay, but we currently don't.

05:52:01.300 Okay, well...

05:52:02.000 Well, we should have them.

05:52:02.200 But also, as I object to this view that men are the disposable sex, and we are. 0.98

05:52:09.280 Men are the disposable sex. 0.99

05:52:10.820 That's why for millennia, for centuries, men are sent off to war to go and die.

05:52:16.020 Now, I think that this is clearly evidence of some deep-seated bias towards men.

05:52:25.160 No, it's not, because you're not making babies.

05:52:28.240 It's irrelevant.

05:52:29.040 It is relevant.

05:52:29.880 Totally irrelevant.

05:52:30.480 No, it's the most relevant thing, because we need less of you to make more humans. 0.75

05:52:37.100 We can get by with very few men.

05:52:39.140 Okay, but see, as a man, I don't really feel good.

05:52:43.240 How do you feel?

05:52:43.940 I don't really feel like, you know, that's...

05:52:47.820 Like it's fair?

05:52:48.580 As just on an individual level, do you think that that's a guy not...

05:52:53.040 Let's say a guy doesn't want to go to war, right?

05:52:55.680 Okay.

05:52:58.860 And he's forced into war.

05:53:00.420 Okay.

05:53:01.160 Which happened a lot.

05:53:03.140 Happens a lot.

05:53:03.900 Happens exclusively to men.

05:53:06.780 Okay.

05:53:07.780 Okay, there's benefits that come with being a man, and there's benefits that come with being a woman, 1.00

05:53:11.840 and there's also drawbacks to both.

05:53:13.460 You're less likely to be killed by your partner. 0.62

05:53:15.740 You're less likely to be raped.

05:53:18.120 You're less likely...

05:53:18.620 All of these things.

05:53:19.320 Okay, we can talk about the differences on a societal level, but let's talk about what's enforced by the state and the government.

05:53:30.500 And if the government says that men and women are equal by law, then so too should they be subject to military conscription,

05:53:37.560 regardless of whatever social dynamics are just sort of ingrained.

05:53:46.240 To me, it's not like a social thing.

05:53:47.820 It's like a physical thing.

05:53:49.320 Like, you know, like I'm never going to leave the argument that a woman would be less fit to serve in a war. 0.98

05:53:59.940 Like, that's just the truth.

05:54:02.340 And Brian, I'm sure you agree with that.

05:54:04.560 Agree with what?

05:54:05.380 That men are physically stronger.

05:54:07.540 I think men make better soldiers.

05:54:09.400 Yes.

05:54:10.040 Yeah.

05:54:10.360 Exactly.

05:54:11.620 So then why would you want...

05:54:13.500 A woman on the front lines.

05:54:15.300 So then why would you want half women on the front lines? 1.00

05:54:17.480 How would you feel about your wife being on the front lines?

05:54:19.900 To soften up the enemy. 1.00

05:54:21.180 You're insane. 0.99

05:54:22.580 To soften up the enemy. 0.98

05:54:24.040 That way, you know, when the men come...

05:54:26.780 When our men come in...

05:54:27.540 To be cushioned?

05:54:28.100 You're delusional.

05:54:29.160 Yeah, meat shield. 0.99

05:54:29.860 You're delusional.

05:54:30.300 Me shield.

05:54:30.940 The delusion is just...

05:54:33.240 I don't know what you're talking about.

05:54:34.380 Delusional.

05:54:34.920 Delusional.

05:54:36.320 Explain to me...

05:54:37.320 You would be okay with your wife being drafted? 0.95

05:54:40.580 What?

05:54:41.020 Being used as a cushion?

05:54:42.640 Hey, you know what?

05:54:43.720 That's fair.

05:54:45.540 That's equal.

05:54:46.900 What about your kids?

05:54:48.760 What do you mean, my kids?

05:54:50.520 Who's going to stay home with your kids? 1.00

05:54:52.720 I am.

05:54:53.520 Bruh.

05:54:55.720 Here's...

05:54:56.280 Yo, it's actually funny.

05:54:57.460 I was thinking about this.

05:54:58.700 I've said this before on the show, right?

05:55:00.560 So, okay.

05:55:01.180 You think about, like, what is the most...

05:55:03.840 And I don't like to use this term, but, like, a girl started asking me about this one show.

05:55:07.940 So, like, there's this trope about, well, like, the most, like, boss thing to do as a man

05:55:14.100 is to, like, jump in front of a bullet to protect your wife.

05:55:17.180 And, like, that's the most alpha thing. 0.99

05:55:21.080 Actually, the most fucking alpha thing would be to use your woman as a meat shield. 1.00

05:55:27.680 That way you can continue on and get another woman pregnant and continue spreading your seed 1.00

05:55:33.980 instead of sacrificing yourself like you're disposable.

05:55:38.460 That sounds like a selfish answer.

05:55:40.400 You're trolling.

05:55:41.220 No, I swear to God.

05:55:42.300 Brian, six hours deep.

05:55:45.020 Wait, wait, what's it called?

05:55:46.360 You're still trolling.

05:55:47.180 No, no, no, no. 1.00

05:55:47.540 I swear to fucking God. 1.00

05:55:49.280 That's... 1.00

05:55:50.360 So, continuing on your bloodline by finding a new woman to procreate with 1.00

05:55:55.360 technically would be the most alpha thing.

05:55:59.400 I'm just saying. 0.88

05:55:59.900 Loose pussy energy donated $100. 0.96

05:56:03.020 Am I wrong, Chad? 0.99

05:56:03.520 Am I wrong, Chad?

05:56:04.120 Women in general, we're strong and independent and want equality. 0.99

05:56:07.300 Women on draft, we're not strong as men. 1.00

05:56:10.260 Stop the fucking cap. 1.00

05:56:12.080 Get the fuck out. 1.00

05:56:13.520 Hashtag equality. 1.00

05:56:14.700 Hashtag you fucked up. 1.00

05:56:15.920 Hashtag Brian Isama Clolland 9 at 19. 1.00

05:56:19.920 We're literally saying we're not as strong.

05:56:22.020 I'm saying...

05:56:22.920 But they're saying the whole movement.

05:56:24.720 Mentally, I would argue that women have better intuition. 1.00

05:56:29.680 But physically...

05:56:33.680 Dude, here's the thing, right?

05:56:35.360 These guys, like, I get it.

05:56:37.280 Like, oh, it's the masculine thing to, like, sacrifice your life for your woman. 0.99

05:56:41.800 But, like, the apex fucking male maneuver to continue propagating your bloodline with other women would be to... 0.99

05:56:50.200 I'm not winning any fucking friends with this one. 0.99

05:56:53.400 Would be to sacrifice your woman so you can continue. 1.00

05:56:57.520 What if she's already pregnant? 1.00

05:56:59.040 That's the selfish...

05:57:00.400 Like, that is the most selfish thing.

05:57:02.220 But it's in your best interest.

05:57:04.080 And that would be, like, the most...

05:57:05.500 In your best interest?

05:57:06.460 Yes.

05:57:06.880 Exactly. 0.97

05:57:07.400 Yeah, you're selfish. 0.93

05:57:08.520 Exactly. 0.99

05:57:08.740 You'd be a bad partner.

05:57:09.920 No, that's not...

05:57:10.200 I feel bad for your wife.

05:57:11.200 So, a man not wanting to die is being a bad person.

05:57:16.220 You're saying sacrifice your wife.

05:57:19.300 If I...

05:57:20.060 Yes, if you have to choose, yes.

05:57:21.240 If you have to choose.

05:57:22.300 Yeah.

05:57:22.700 I actually think it makes more sense because I'm more capable of providing for my children than she is.

05:57:29.300 So, therefore, yes.

05:57:30.500 Are there children already, hypothetically?

05:57:32.760 Like, they're alive and born?

05:57:34.020 Yeah, but you don't have, like, the nurturing motherhood. 1.00

05:57:36.140 Let's say they are.

05:57:36.760 Then, yes, it's better if I continue raising our children than you.

05:57:39.940 I'm more capable of providing and protecting.

05:57:42.420 I heavily disagree with that.

05:57:49.000 Sometimes, Corn Pop in the chat says, sometimes you need to sacrifice the queen to get the check made.

05:57:55.020 Yeah, but women can learn how to sew. 1.00

05:57:56.560 We can sew clothes.

05:57:57.760 We can plant fruit and vegetables.

05:58:00.440 We can be very resourceful when we need to to take care of the children if we don't have enough money.

05:58:05.560 I swear I'm not trolling.

05:58:06.580 I swear I'm not trolling.

05:58:07.800 Hopefully, you left some dinero before you left to war.

05:58:11.820 Arguably, currently, I would be able to provide better than.

05:58:14.260 And, again, I don't consider myself an alpha male.

05:58:17.900 But, like, if we're using, like, that sort of, like, those terms, right?

05:58:22.680 I'm asking the chat here.

05:58:24.060 What's more alpha?

05:58:26.140 Taking the bullet for your wife. 0.79

05:58:28.540 So, if you choose, you have the scenario, right? 0.99

05:58:30.660 She dies or you dies. 0.64

05:58:31.820 I would argue the most, you could call it dark triad, whatever.

05:58:36.200 The most alpha move is your, she dies, you survive.

05:58:41.840 You can continue passing on your genetic legacy with other women. 1.00

05:58:45.840 That's the most gangster shit. 1.00

05:58:48.700 Right? 1.00

05:58:49.840 All these, oh, I'm a masculine man. 0.97

05:58:52.360 I'm going to die for my woman. 0.95

05:58:54.380 Okay. 0.81

05:58:55.360 What if you didn't, I don't know.

05:58:57.720 Maybe it's Sigma.

05:58:58.540 I don't know.

05:59:00.160 Right?

05:59:00.640 What is it?

05:59:01.100 Chat, what are your thoughts? 1.00

05:59:02.060 Uh, I'm never getting pussy again. 1.00

05:59:08.980 They hear that. 1.00

05:59:09.740 No, you're canceled.

05:59:10.620 That, like, dries up. 1.00

05:59:11.740 Like, dude, a girl hears that shit, it's like, bro, you're dumb. 1.00

05:59:14.300 He took this troll way too far. 1.00

05:59:15.840 No, I, women should get drafted, though, as a men's rights advocate. 1.00

05:59:18.940 You should, shut the fuck up. 1.00

05:59:20.140 Okay. 1.00

05:59:20.540 As a men's rights advocate, women should get drafted. 1.00

05:59:23.100 Stop the cat. 1.00

05:59:23.900 Okay, I was hearing about our country.

05:59:25.480 S-L underscore I dot D dot underscore 272 A-39 D-F-91 B-5-3-716 donated $100. 0.96

05:59:37.500 My last dollar tonight, volunteer service and involuntary service is not some stupid metaphysics. 0.87

05:59:44.300 History tells you that a county who doesn't have young men willing to sacrifice, the country will die. 0.99

05:59:50.480 Period.

05:59:51.220 Yeah. 1.00

05:59:51.520 Volunteer service is not the stupid, okay, history tells you that a country who doesn't have young men willing to sacrifice, the country will die. 0.99

06:00:01.680 Okay, cool. 0.99

06:00:02.860 Thank you.

06:00:03.400 Appreciate it.

06:00:04.300 Here, we got some chats here.

06:00:06.640 Move that.

06:00:07.480 Can you read this one?

06:00:09.660 Can you read this one?

06:00:10.820 Yeah.

06:00:12.140 Thank you, Jay.

06:00:13.100 It's known that women make better marksmen, snipers, when it comes to military services. 1.00

06:00:18.620 They take instruction better than men. 0.85

06:00:22.440 There's no ego involved.

06:00:23.740 23-year veteran of the Canadian Air Force.

06:00:30.540 I've heard that before.

06:00:32.960 This one.

06:00:33.940 Maddie is so talented. 0.95

06:00:35.520 She can be live on a podcast and respond on LF at the same time.

06:00:39.960 Could have at least turned on honors while in seriousness.

06:00:42.440 How much time?

06:00:43.500 That's not true, but I do have an open message when you subscribe that gets sent out automatically.

06:00:48.760 Oh, okay.

06:00:50.260 No typer or whatever it's called.

06:00:52.280 Okay.

06:00:52.880 Good times.

06:00:54.380 Look, women should get drafted. 1.00

06:00:57.100 Nope.

06:00:57.800 Nope.

06:00:58.400 Okay.

06:00:59.120 All right.

06:01:00.280 Should we take away the vote for women? 1.00

06:01:05.740 What?

06:01:06.220 You realize that that's how men got the right to vote, right? 0.60

06:01:13.160 Is being subject to military conscription?

06:01:17.840 Honestly?

06:01:18.740 If you took away my right to vote, I wouldn't be upset.

06:01:23.480 Any other ladies here want to weigh in on the voting thing? 1.00

06:01:25.940 Girl, for your body? 0.99

06:01:28.080 Like, what if you're raped and you get pregnant? 0.99

06:01:30.540 And this is our word. 0.83

06:01:31.540 I'm so sorry.

06:01:32.080 Okay.

06:01:32.460 I mean, I think.

06:01:33.860 What does that have to do with voting?

06:01:36.280 Because you're voting for rights over your body.

06:01:38.860 Like, rights over.

06:01:40.140 Even if women didn't have. 0.97

06:01:42.540 You're voting for so much stuff, but that's what's included.

06:01:45.020 Like, women's rights are getting, like, rolled back with all of the laws. 1.00

06:01:49.240 So, SA has been criminalized even before women's suffrage. 0.99

06:01:53.900 You do realize that, right?

06:01:55.000 Yeah, but you know that they're trying to make.

06:01:57.240 I don't.

06:01:58.180 Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.

06:01:59.620 No, I don't want to say the words on it.

06:02:01.320 Can I say that a baby eater 3000, when you get rid of your baby, they're trying to make

06:02:07.320 that.

06:02:07.900 Abortion? 0.89

06:02:08.220 Illegal.

06:02:08.820 Yeah, I'm scared of being able to eat it.

06:02:10.280 I'm so sorry.

06:02:11.180 Yeah, they're trying to make that.

06:02:12.980 Who?

06:02:15.320 They got rid of Roe v. Wade, which just put it back to the states.

06:02:18.780 The states decide.

06:02:20.360 Yeah, but now some states don't allow, right?

06:02:24.020 So, why, as a woman, would you give up your right to vote on things that have to do with 1.00

06:02:28.980 your body and everything else?

06:02:32.380 There's so many other things, but that's just, like, one example.

06:02:35.140 Well, I'm pro-life, so there's that.

06:02:38.320 Okay, but would you feel the same way if it happened?

06:02:40.960 And, like I said, if I didn't have the right to vote, I wouldn't be upset.

06:02:50.660 That's so sad for women, honestly, and our society.

06:02:56.100 I disagree.

06:02:56.520 I don't know if the feminists are coming out. 1.00

06:02:57.960 Are you saying that, like, your husband would vote in your best interest?

06:03:01.660 Not about the abortion issue, but...

06:03:03.580 Absolutely, my husband would vote in my best interest.

06:03:05.520 Yeah, you would trust that.

06:03:06.660 Yeah.

06:03:07.620 Being a good wife is being able to submit to your husband and trust in his decisions to lead.

06:03:12.640 Yeah.

06:03:12.880 I think what the problem is is that we've lost sight of the real traditional nuclear family

06:03:18.860 that is supposed to be valued, and if things were the way that they should be and that

06:03:24.780 we do have those values, then, yeah, the woman wouldn't really need to vote. 1.00

06:03:29.840 I mean, if the man is representing her well, then I can see that.

06:03:33.580 In today's society, you know, I do, I do like the right to vote, but like I said, maybe

06:03:38.960 if I'm changing the perspective to if I never had it, I don't think it would affect me.

06:03:44.460 But now that I've had it, if they were to take it away, that's kind of different.

06:03:52.480 Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I think...

06:03:54.920 Wait, I have a question for you, Maddie.

06:03:56.480 If a guy gets a woman pregnant and she wants to keep the kid... 0.99

06:04:00.840 Yeah.

06:04:01.140 But he, let's say he's not ready to be a dad, maybe he's not mentally ready, he doesn't

06:04:07.720 want...

06:04:08.520 He's not financially ready.

06:04:09.860 Okay.

06:04:10.020 What do you say to him?

06:04:11.320 Did he consensually make the choice to come in this woman? 0.63

06:04:19.440 I'm not sure where you're going with that argument, but sure, let's say yes.

06:04:23.300 If you come, sorry, let me point at you.

06:04:26.620 If you come in a girl, then you are consenting to the idea that if she could, that she could 0.99

06:04:35.120 get pregnant and you are doing that willingly knowing that she has a choice now because it's 1.00

06:04:41.700 in her body.

06:04:42.160 Okay, so as a woman then, if you consent and you want a man to come inside of you and you 0.93

06:04:53.160 realize that that carries a pregnancy risk, are you saying that would you not be in favor 1.00

06:05:00.820 of her not, or would you not be in favor, oh, fuck Jesus, would you be against her getting 0.99

06:05:08.920 an abortion? 0.99

06:05:09.940 I'm not against abortion.

06:05:12.440 Okay, well, I'm a little confused there.

06:05:16.140 So you're saying when, if a, you think that consent to sex on the man's part or consent

06:05:23.980 like coming inside of a girl means you are consenting to being a father and being financially

06:05:30.140 obligated to 18 years to, for child support?

06:05:33.000 When you come in a girl, that is what you are doing, right? 1.00

06:05:37.200 What you come in a girl to try to get pregnant. 1.00

06:05:40.680 Like now people do it for fun.

06:05:41.820 Or you could just, or you could just think it's a, it feels pleasurable.

06:05:45.260 Well, it doesn't matter because biologically that is what people do to get pregnant. 1.00

06:05:50.160 So you don't get to say that that's just for fun.

06:05:50.860 Wouldn't that apply to women too? 0.99

06:05:53.140 To get came inside?

06:05:54.880 What?

06:05:55.300 Yeah, I mean, you let him do it.

06:05:58.880 You let him do it.

06:05:59.600 But isn't that, like that's a risk you're taking is getting pregnant.

06:06:04.080 Not only did you let him penetrate you without a condom, you're also more aware of your cycle.

06:06:07.920 You're aware of your, closer to ovulation.

06:06:10.440 He doesn't necessarily know that.

06:06:12.320 You know what stage in your cycle you're in.

06:06:13.880 But are you arguing that like the man shouldn't have to be a father to the kid or should have a say in whether the baby is had or not?

06:06:22.060 Well, it's interesting because you're basically, so you're saying that if, if a man consents to sex, then he's also consenting to.

06:06:30.180 To a risk of pregnancy.

06:06:31.320 Which you acknowledge he has, if the woman chooses to.

06:06:35.560 Then he has no say in because it's not growing in his body.

06:06:38.940 So he should have, the man should have done what?

06:06:41.500 He should have kept his legs closed? 0.99

06:06:45.460 He should have not had sex? 0.99

06:06:48.280 There's protection or there's trust in the person that you're having sex with?

06:06:52.320 Sometimes it, sometimes those things fail.

06:06:55.100 Okay, but.

06:06:56.300 What if the woman lied that she was on birth control? 1.00

06:06:59.640 Then that's plan B.

06:07:01.780 No, but what if she wants to keep the kid? 0.99

06:07:03.740 No, that's deceiving.

06:07:04.980 I don't agree with that.

06:07:06.100 I've seen it happen.

06:07:07.400 Ah, but legally he would still be obliged to pay child support. 0.58

06:07:11.700 Yeah, but he's, you're still having sex with the person.

06:07:13.880 You know what?

06:07:14.420 Birth control fails too.

06:07:15.760 I've seen people get pregnant on IUDs.

06:07:17.860 But it's interesting that how you have.

06:07:20.840 So you're saying that it's more ethical.

06:07:23.700 Or well.

06:07:27.080 You're saying that. 1.00

06:07:30.500 Murdering, killing an unborn child is better than. 1.00

06:07:38.280 Better than what? 1.00

06:07:39.200 Than a father abandoning his child. 0.99

06:07:42.020 Killing an unborn child is better than a father abandoning. 0.78

06:07:45.580 Abandoning the child? 0.99

06:07:46.600 Like that's more acceptable.

06:07:49.100 I'm arguing that the, that women should have a right to their body. 1.00

06:07:55.180 And.

06:07:56.400 But we're talking about a life.

06:07:58.300 Like if the woman decides to have. 0.98

06:07:59.580 It's not a life.

06:08:00.480 It's, it's a few cells clumped together.

06:08:02.680 But it will produce a life.

06:08:03.680 It's still your body though.

06:08:05.020 It's, it's going to produce a life.

06:08:06.700 Someone can't force you to give birth.

06:08:09.020 Yeah.

06:08:09.380 That's, that's a lot.

06:08:11.400 Yeah, but you also had a choice.

06:08:12.600 You have a choice to not have sex. 0.70

06:08:14.160 So did the man.

06:08:17.100 Yeah.

06:08:17.540 But so why.

06:08:18.360 You're both taking.

06:08:19.380 Which is a lot easier, isn't it not?

06:08:21.480 When it comes to.

06:08:22.220 To not come.

06:08:23.740 What do you want to do?

06:08:25.220 She again donated $99.

06:08:28.120 Whoever just sent the last message is lying.

06:08:31.060 I messaged Maddie asking for a naked squatting video an hour ago and still haven't gotten a response.

06:08:37.260 Maddie message me after you're done.

06:08:39.400 You're beautiful.

06:08:40.220 Thank you.

06:08:43.060 Okay.

06:08:43.600 Thank you.

06:08:44.520 It's just interesting.

06:08:45.480 Like people who, like when you look at the male perspective, when it comes to perhaps an unwanted pregnancy, you guys, your arguments are basically pro-life arguments.

06:08:56.880 But for men, you should have not done that.

06:08:59.740 You should have kept your legs closed.

06:09:02.020 Too bad. 1.00

06:09:03.080 Suck it up. 1.00

06:09:03.700 Enjoy the 18 years of child support. 1.00

06:09:10.400 But a woman, here's the other look at it. 1.00

06:09:14.760 A woman, you would tell a woman who says, I'm not financially ready to have a child. 0.99

06:09:19.740 You'd be like, totally fine with you getting an abortion. 1.00

06:09:23.220 A woman who's not ready to raise a child, you'd say, totally fine with you getting an abortion. 1.00

06:09:27.160 But when it comes to the man side of that equation, you're like, tough. 1.00

06:09:32.880 Suck it up. 0.99

06:09:35.780 He doesn't carry the baby. 1.00

06:09:37.600 Doesn't matter. 0.99

06:09:38.240 But it's his semen. 0.99

06:09:39.500 Tell you what. 0.99

06:09:40.100 How about this?

06:09:41.520 So if a man fails to pay child support, we've done away with debtors' prisons in the United States.

06:09:48.880 You cannot go to prison for a financial debt, except when it comes to child support.

06:09:55.820 And this is definitely a gendered issue, because men are overwhelmingly the ones that are legally compelled.

06:10:03.280 Typically, through the mothers, this is something mothers seek out, men are legally compelled to pay child support.

06:10:10.840 And if they don't, they're going to be jailed.

06:10:13.860 That is taking away their bodily autonomy.

06:10:20.740 And you're forcing them to labor, and pay money that they would perhaps not want to give.

06:10:27.800 That's taking away their bodily autonomy.

06:10:30.180 You'd force them to work.

06:10:32.140 But I'm arguing that women should always have the choice if they keep the baby. 1.00

06:10:37.320 I didn't say it was right that men have to pay for the next 18 years, whether they're involved or not.

06:10:42.580 I agree with that.

06:10:43.860 That's what I'm saying.

06:10:46.620 We're just saying that a woman should have her own choice over her own body. 0.84

06:10:51.400 But it's interesting to me, though.

06:10:53.160 You're talking about bodily autonomy.

06:10:55.220 But you say that men shouldn't have bodily autonomy because they get drafted into war.

06:11:02.840 What?

06:11:03.560 Men don't have bodily autonomy, because they're subject to military conscription.

06:11:08.240 They're not carrying children. 0.99

06:11:09.820 I don't see how that's relevant.

06:11:11.320 I do.

06:11:11.820 I would actually argue that forced military conscription is a bigger infringement on bodily autonomy than abortion.

06:11:18.880 A woman's lack of ability to get an abortion. 1.00

06:11:22.920 Do you disagree?

06:11:25.860 Can you say it one more time?

06:11:27.120 Okay, so here's the difference.

06:11:28.540 So, I would argue that forced military conscription is a bigger infringement upon bodily autonomy than a woman not having a legal right to an abortion.

06:11:41.240 I'd say they're almost similar, honestly.

06:11:46.200 Really?

06:11:46.780 Okay, so forced military conscription is your government saying, despite your desires, we are going to pluck you out of Kentucky, put you in a war zone where, let's look at World War I. 0.83

06:12:03.800 You're going to be in a trench for months.

06:12:06.460 You're going to see a bunch of death.

06:12:08.320 You're going to have tinnitus because of all the military, excuse me, because of all of the shelling that's just bombardment nonstop.

06:12:19.520 You're going to have trench foot.

06:12:20.660 You're going to get chemical gassed.

06:12:21.940 You may very well just die, or if you're not, you're going to be a casualty, and you'll have, you know, perhaps substantial physical injury.

06:12:30.300 And if you don't have physical injury, you'll have significant mental injury.

06:12:34.360 You know, they called it shell shock.

06:12:36.640 There's been different names, PTSD.

06:12:38.040 PTSD, I would argue that the state forcing you to do that versus a woman who, for example, consents to having sex, and she has an unwanted pregnancy, and she's not capable of getting an abortion. 0.65

06:12:53.940 So my position, again, is it's a bigger infringement upon one's bodily autonomy to be forced into war than you not being able to undergo a medical procedure.

06:13:06.340 It's not just a medical procedure.

06:13:08.960 That's actually exactly what it is.

06:13:10.860 It's 18 years.

06:13:11.560 Oh, but if you don't do it, what is, if you don't do it, it is a life.

06:13:15.600 It is a whole person.

06:13:16.180 No, you could give it up for adoption if you were so inclined.

06:13:19.620 If you're not ready to carry the responsibility of motherhood, then you're not ready for sex.

06:13:23.420 That's my opinion.

06:13:27.620 You could give the child up for adoption.

06:13:30.320 So your argument about, well, it's an 18-year commitment isn't necessarily true.

06:13:34.380 And there's actually safe, like, you can, almost in every single, you can.

06:13:39.200 But why is that fair to, like, that kid?

06:13:42.540 Like, why would you go through all of that? 1.00

06:13:44.920 I know adopted kids, and they are fucked up. 1.00

06:13:47.720 Sure. 1.00

06:13:48.280 Beyond belief.

06:13:49.140 Sure.

06:13:49.520 Every single one of them.

06:13:50.760 So why would you choose to do that?

06:13:51.680 You have the option to do it.

06:13:54.180 You could give it up for adoption.

06:13:55.280 But why should that be an option? 0.98

06:13:56.180 But why would you want to take away someone's option to not make someone else's life fucking miserable? 0.64

06:14:02.160 Wait, so are you guys arguing that adoption, like, give, look, I'm not saying it's great for the child, but I think if a woman, you can go, you can go the fire department, you can go the fire department and leave it with the, this is a thing that women can do that you won't get in trouble for it. 0.87

06:14:18.800 You leave it with the, at the fire department, and I'm not saying it's ruining someone's life, like, it genuinely is.

06:14:27.780 I mean, now we're arguing about something different.

06:14:29.520 My initial argument was, and I'm, if you, is, it's a bigger bodily autonomy infringement.

06:14:36.240 Matthew Lee donated $100.

06:14:39.140 Fact, biology says human life starts at conception.

06:14:42.960 Yep.

06:14:43.440 The baby is not your body.

06:14:45.080 When you consent to sex, you know the risk of pregnancy. 0.97

06:14:49.620 Own up to your actions.

06:14:51.520 Do not play God and kill another life.

06:14:55.000 This is very, very true.

06:14:56.560 It's like we have a lot of, we have precautions, we have warning signs, but yet we choose to ignore them.

06:15:01.780 That's like driving without a seatbelt.

06:15:03.660 It's like you know what the risk is.

06:15:05.500 Okay, but I got pregnant on birth control and never was came inside.

06:15:10.400 With an abusive partner that beat me.

06:15:13.080 You want me to keep the baby? 0.71

06:15:13.820 Maybe I'm not saying anything to you personally, and I don't, this isn't even a personal attack.

06:15:19.500 I'm just, I'm, I'm questioning your values.

06:15:22.480 I'm questioning your argument.

06:15:24.080 That's the only thing that I'm talking about.

06:15:25.700 I'm not saying anything about you.

06:15:27.220 Yes, that's unfortunate, but you could have given the baby up for adoption.

06:15:31.440 But why?

06:15:32.360 What?

06:15:32.660 But you are ruining another person's life.

06:15:35.780 But you're not going to guarantee that that baby's life is ruined.

06:15:39.300 Wait, so you're saying, you're saying, putting a baby up for adoption versus aborting them?

06:15:45.160 Is that your argument?

06:15:46.000 It's growing up without parents.

06:15:47.540 But so is your argument that it's better to have been aborted than to grow up in foster care, basically?

06:15:55.940 Than to just have it to give it up?

06:15:57.400 Yes, I am saying it is better to do that.

06:16:00.160 If you are not going to have the child have a good partner that you think is going to be a good fit as another parent, then you should not have the kid.

06:16:06.720 If you're not financially stable, you should not have the kid.

06:16:09.880 Okay.

06:16:10.140 I, like, that's my stance.

06:16:14.280 Okay.

06:16:15.100 Okay.

06:16:16.340 Sure, you're pro-life.

06:16:17.580 Or, excuse me, sorry, sorry, you're pro-choice.

06:16:20.600 Okay, I don't even know how we really got there.

06:16:22.880 In any case, I still think, I mean, I don't know if you still, if I've been able to convince you that it is a greater infringement on bodily autonomy to be drafted as a man forced into...

06:16:33.720 God King Xerxes donated $100.

06:16:38.160 Thank you, man.

06:16:38.560 We're all starting off as a ball of cells, but that's the beautiful thing, is look what it created.

06:16:57.560 It created you, created everybody that's sitting here at this podcast.

06:17:01.640 You know, your parent could have easily chose to not have you and aborted you, and that's sad, and that's devastating.

06:17:08.000 My parents were together and financially stable, and I grew up in a good household.

06:17:12.820 And my parents weren't financially stable, and I ended up being okay.

06:17:17.800 You know, everybody makes choices in their life that can change for the better.

06:17:22.740 Somebody who's adopted, grew up in the foster system, you know what, they can get out of the system, they can make something of themselves.

06:17:28.260 But the trauma, you are guaranteeing certain trauma to someone before they are even born.

06:17:34.000 Trauma happens to everybody.

06:17:35.140 We're just talking about men who go to war, they have trauma.

06:17:37.140 But why would you guarantee certain trauma before someone is even born, you are not giving them the best chance at life?

06:17:42.980 Isn't life suffering in general?

06:17:43.560 But we're also generalizing the foster system.

06:17:45.360 Not every foster kid who's going to have a bad life.

06:17:47.960 Shouldn't we just take your argument to the maximum?

06:17:50.340 Like, isn't it the Buddhist saying, life is suffering, right?

06:17:53.160 So should we just abort everyone because we'll inevitably encounter some sort of suffering in our life?

06:17:58.660 No, I'm saying you should only have kids if you have a good situation already to give them the best chance possible.

06:18:07.360 Anyways, this kind of stemmed from, look, I want to restate it one more time.

06:18:17.540 So, forced military conscription is a bigger infringement upon bodily autonomy than abortion.

06:18:27.760 Agree or disagree?

06:18:29.720 I feel like they're similar, which is what I said earlier.

06:18:34.020 I'm in the same place.

06:18:35.260 So, okay, you think that, I don't even know how to convince you on this, similar.

06:18:41.900 You think it's similar?

06:18:43.880 I think it is, this is what I said.

06:18:45.660 Okay, so let me ask you a question.

06:18:47.260 Let's remove abortion from this. 1.00

06:18:48.760 Do you think that the average woman's experience with pregnancy is worse than the average person's experience in the military?

06:19:05.260 But you're not saying, you're not saying the pregnancy and how it is going, you're taking away the choice or not, right?

06:19:15.760 Like, that's what you're arguing?

06:19:17.080 I don't think pregnancy is as bad as going to war. 0.67

06:19:24.300 If you're getting shot at, it's not as bad as carrying a child for nine months.

06:19:28.820 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

06:19:30.000 But that doesn't end in nine months.

06:19:31.800 Because the government will, has the potential to force men into that position. 0.56

06:19:41.260 Yeah, in the same way that if you take away rights to an abortion, you are also forcing women.

06:19:47.560 You're not, actually, no, because, I mean, look, there's certain situations where women are assaulted and that's terrible.

06:19:53.340 But the vast majority of women are getting abortions of convenience. 1.00

06:19:59.720 They got not, they got pregnant. 1.00

06:20:01.420 They're fucking, they're consensually fucking their boyfriend. 1.00

06:20:04.360 You know this. 1.00

06:20:05.380 Most women are getting abortions. 1.00

06:20:07.860 Like, their fucking boyfriend knocked them off. 1.00

06:20:10.180 You know this. 1.00

06:20:11.400 Yeah.

06:20:12.300 Yeah.

06:20:13.280 With Brian's point, though, like, men being drafted to war, you know, they're going to have a risk of, you know, dying.

06:20:21.340 Right?

06:20:21.600 So we're talking about actually taking away a life that's here.

06:20:23.980 To your point, if you believe that life doesn't begin until a certain amount of time, I don't know what your belief system is on that.

06:20:30.520 You're saying because we're taking away a potential life versus taking away an actual life, that potential life is worse than actual life?

06:20:44.340 Women actually have a higher chance of dying during pregnancy. 0.95

06:20:49.580 Have a higher chance?

06:20:50.380 As compared to men?

06:20:51.100 Compared to what?

06:20:51.780 No, I'm so sorry.

06:20:53.160 Men don't get pregnant. 1.00

06:20:54.540 From, like, your first pregnancy is, like, your highest chance of dying.

06:20:58.200 Okay.

06:20:58.640 What are the exact numbers on that?

06:21:00.940 Relatively low.

06:21:02.160 Well, I'm just saying there's still a chance, just like the war. 0.99

06:21:04.460 Yeah, of course.

06:21:05.140 I mean, you can...

06:21:05.960 Okay, but it's the same as the war.

06:21:07.620 No, it's not the same.

06:21:08.640 Here, we're going to move on a little bit, but one final thought on this.

06:21:12.460 So, I think what would be fair, in states where abortion is legal, I think men should have a corresponding right called legal paternal surrender to, if the woman gets pregnant and he can make some sort of legal election to not be financially responsible, he can waive his parental rights. 0.58

06:21:35.720 Yeah, I would agree with that.

06:22:06.620 I think men should be able to legally surrender their parental rights. 0.53

06:22:14.580 Yeah, I think...

06:22:15.360 Which includes no...

06:22:16.080 So, not being compelled to pay child support, basically.

06:22:18.900 Yeah, I think within a certain time frame that you should be able to make that decision and sign off on it and it be legal.

06:22:26.740 Yeah.

06:22:28.040 Yeah, that's my position.

06:22:30.200 If there was a middle ground, then yeah, I guess that's fair.

06:22:33.680 Mm-hmm.

06:22:34.880 If there was.

06:22:36.080 I think that would honestly be a big W for the pro-choice movement.

06:22:40.700 Mm-hmm.

06:22:41.120 Try to, you know, appeal to some men on this.

06:22:45.040 I don't know.

06:22:46.300 Anyways, okay.

06:22:47.520 Let's get a couple chats in, then we're going to try to wrap up here very soon.

06:22:50.400 Okay, so we have...

06:22:51.700 Can you read this one, Maddie?

06:22:54.560 Deleting your unborn child is not your body. 0.73

06:22:57.560 You are ending the life of your own child who has yet to be born.

06:23:00.260 So selfish, how is that so hard to understand?

06:23:03.620 Mm-hmm.

06:23:05.480 I'll just never have a kid in this world without a good partner.

06:23:09.600 I think Dave Chappelle has a joke.

06:23:11.300 Like, if you can...

06:23:13.300 Actually, I don't know.

06:23:14.280 It's kind of...

06:23:14.920 Eh, Dave Chappelle.

06:23:15.840 I don't know.

06:23:16.120 Should I say it?

06:23:17.200 Say it.

06:23:18.260 He has a joke. 0.99

06:23:19.200 It's like, well, if you can murder the kid, I can at least... 0.93

06:23:21.380 I should at least be able to abandon it. 0.80

06:23:23.760 Yeah, fair.

06:23:25.220 Fair, right?

06:23:26.220 Down.

06:23:26.580 My wallet, my choice.

06:23:28.920 Sorry.

06:23:29.780 No, yeah, that's good.

06:23:30.800 Yep.

06:23:31.260 All right, we have OPC Don.

06:23:34.020 I've heard through the grapevine that Grace Thorpe has been invited to be a guest on the

06:23:38.120 show.

06:23:38.500 Can't wait to see her on.

06:23:39.660 She will definitely be one of your most interesting podcast guests yet.

06:23:44.380 Yeah, we still need to get that scheduled, but I've been messaging with her.

06:23:49.700 We have another one here.

06:23:51.020 It's coming in, so...

06:23:52.880 You are a few cells as well.

06:23:57.040 Everyone is.

06:23:57.700 By your logic, I can go around and delete whoever I like whenever I want.

06:24:02.560 Actually, no, because those cells didn't have a consciousness, so...

06:24:08.220 Profound.

06:24:10.320 Oh, hold on.

06:24:11.300 This one's coming in.

06:24:12.220 One sec.

06:24:13.540 Can you read that one?

06:24:14.440 An abortion is never a necessary health care.

06:24:18.360 When a woman's health is at risk, it's called an atopic pregnancy.

06:24:21.620 This is not an abortion. 0.94

06:24:22.960 Please educate yourself on pregnancy.

06:24:25.360 Oh, okay.

06:24:27.340 All right.

06:24:27.900 And then we have this one.

06:24:31.080 Oh, hold on.

06:24:33.040 Sorry.

06:24:33.640 Not sure why that's not coming up.

06:24:35.380 Oh, wait.

06:24:36.980 What?

06:24:37.880 That one already came up.

06:24:38.920 Weird.

06:24:40.160 Let me skip that.

06:24:41.440 Let's see.

06:24:42.260 Hold on.

06:24:43.000 Is it going to trigger?

06:24:44.520 I'm not sure.

06:24:45.520 Okay.

06:24:45.680 Let me read this one.

06:24:46.800 Can you read this one?

06:24:47.760 Brian uses this draft point so much as if it's a good argument.

06:24:52.060 Draft hasn't happened in half a century.

06:24:53.940 No one is worried about getting drafted.

06:24:55.640 It'll never happen.

06:24:56.980 As tech advances, we have peeps volunteer for the military.

06:25:00.760 It isn't comparable.

06:25:03.600 Okay.

06:25:04.100 Wait.

06:25:04.320 Actually, leave it up because I'll address it.

06:25:06.660 Okay.

06:25:06.920 First off, so the draft was used in the Vietnam War.

06:25:12.160 So, there are men who were drafted in the Vietnam War who would have still been alive today had they not been drafted.

06:25:19.660 And there are men who are alive today who were drafted in the Vietnam War who have significant injuries, who have injuries of mind, who have PTSD.

06:25:32.620 So, yes, it's still relevant.

06:25:36.520 Absolutely.

06:25:37.500 Now, if we look at other countries, for example, if you look at the Ukraine-Russia conflict, if you look at the conflict in the Middle East right now, that's certainly relevant.

06:25:50.260 And I actually think we're closer to war now than at any point in the past, I don't know, since the Cold War, basically.

06:26:01.180 I don't think the draft is irrelevant.

06:26:06.220 And also, when it comes to the draft, even if we're not currently engaged in some military conflict where there's a prospect of the draft being initiated, there are still consequences as a man if you do not register for the selective service.

06:26:21.820 For example, while there hasn't been prosecutions for this in recent history, it's still technically a crime.

06:26:30.300 It's a felony.

06:26:31.480 You can go to jail for, I think it's five years.

06:26:34.260 There's a $250,000 fine.

06:26:36.700 Also, you're not eligible to vote if you don't register for the draft, or excuse me, register for the selective service.

06:26:42.300 If you don't register for the selective service, there's also certain federal ramifications.

06:26:48.200 You can't get certain federal jobs.

06:26:49.600 You can't get federal student loans.

06:26:51.940 You're barred from certain federal programs if you're not registered for the selective service.

06:26:57.280 So even if there's not an actual ongoing draft, there's gendered ramifications exclusively for men that negatively impact men on this front.

06:27:10.160 So also, look, I'll point to a modern conflict.

06:27:13.840 Look at the war in Ukraine.

06:27:14.820 Ukraine isn't exactly a Western country, but if you can look at it, all the men had to stay in the country.

06:27:25.660 As a man, you had to stay in the country if you were in Ukraine.

06:27:28.860 All the women could leave the country. 1.00

06:27:32.340 That seems rather unfair to me.

06:27:36.380 All the feminists disappear when there's a war. 1.00

06:27:39.800 There's no more feminists when fucking Russia invades your country. 1.00

06:27:42.980 In fact, you know, it's very funny. 1.00

06:27:44.820 Let's talk about often you hear terms like male privilege, right?

06:27:48.540 Men are privileged while the men had to stay in Ukraine and could not leave the country, could not flee the country.

06:27:57.120 We're talking like 18, 19, 20, 21-year-old Ukrainian men.

06:28:02.100 You had Ukrainian women who could leave the country, and they're going to Stockholm. 1.00

06:28:08.460 They're going to the U.K.

06:28:09.620 They're going to a safe territory.

06:28:12.020 They're going in the club.

06:28:13.240 They're partying.

06:28:14.820 They're on Tinder, while the Ukrainian men, their male counterparts, are dying in Ukraine. 1.00

06:28:26.500 So, actually, there's a – wait, fuck. 1.00

06:28:28.140 There's a really good – oh, wait. 1.00

06:28:29.500 Hold on.

06:28:29.780 Ooh, okay, we can't pull it up. 1.00

06:28:31.980 Fuck. 0.99

06:28:33.600 Someone made a compilation video of, like, people were taking screenshots of Ukrainian women on dating apps in, like, Sweden and the U.K., living their best lives. 1.00

06:28:44.040 And then, like, on the other side of this photo, there's, like, just dead bodies of Ukrainian men.

06:28:56.060 So, we should have a conversation about female privilege. 1.00

06:29:00.880 Oh, oh, male privilege.

06:29:04.020 Male privilege.

06:29:07.980 Anything?

06:29:09.400 No.

06:29:09.740 Nothing?

06:29:10.660 Not going to get any pushback tonight.

06:29:12.120 No, there's no male privilege.

06:29:13.200 What's that?

06:29:13.840 There's no male privilege.

06:29:15.220 Okay.

06:29:15.660 All right.

06:29:15.940 There you go.

06:29:17.380 Okay.

06:29:18.700 Let's see.

06:29:19.300 Oh, there's this one, if you can read it, Maddie.

06:29:20.620 Already been subscribed before pod, got to your messages during pod, common practice, also videos definitely staged.

06:29:30.460 Bro, no one is on my account.

06:29:33.660 I'm not on my account right now.

06:29:35.360 There's no messaging happening.

06:29:37.380 Hmm.

06:29:38.640 Okay.

06:29:39.160 You could pull up.

06:29:40.560 I would give you $11 to message me right now.

06:29:43.880 Oh, okay.

06:29:46.060 Can you read this one? 1.00

06:29:47.580 Oh, fuck. 1.00

06:29:48.220 Sorry. 1.00

06:29:48.520 Wrong one.

06:29:48.980 Hold on.

06:29:49.260 This one?

06:29:51.240 Shout out from Tusacola, Alabama.

06:29:54.380 Retired, USN, 100%.

06:29:56.560 Tuscaloosa.

06:29:58.240 You said it wrong?

06:29:58.960 Sorry.

06:30:02.140 Okay, okay.

06:30:03.160 100% disabled veteran via PTSD.

06:30:06.080 Abortion is murder, and yes, I've been in that room.

06:30:08.540 It hurt me so much, I can't even date anymore.

06:30:10.520 I'm only 33.

06:30:12.140 I hate Margaret Sanger.

06:30:14.740 You feminists know her. 1.00

06:30:16.420 I don't know her.

06:30:17.120 Abortion has a huge effect on a woman, on our mental health, our bodies.

06:30:22.100 They go through a lot.

06:30:23.500 After you have an abortion, it's a really sad experience, and it's something that you're

06:30:28.040 never going to forget.

06:30:29.760 Really?

06:30:30.260 Because I forgot about it a long time ago.

06:30:33.260 It doesn't sound like it.

06:30:34.040 You brought it up.

06:30:34.740 Birth control.

06:30:36.800 What?

06:30:37.360 So does birth control.

06:30:39.320 Yeah.

06:30:39.900 Birth control affects a lot of things, too.

06:30:47.680 Q, you have a story.

06:30:50.420 Q, you got a story here about a woman who erupted in a jealous rage. 1.00

06:30:54.340 Can you tell us about that?

06:30:58.540 Yeah, so I was casually seeing a woman.

06:31:05.160 It was long distance.

06:31:06.040 That's why I say casually.

06:31:07.120 So it wasn't going to be a serious thing.

06:31:10.480 At the time, I was living in Philly.

06:31:12.280 She was living in Long Island, New York.

06:31:15.100 And she had actually took a bus to see me.

06:31:17.940 She took a bus from Long Island to Raleigh, North Carolina to see me on her own dime.

06:31:22.000 And we spent some time together when she went back.

06:31:25.740 Never told her that we were actually serious in terms of monogamy or commitment.

06:31:31.780 And she followed me on social media.

06:31:34.340 So one day, I seen this post that said, I love girls who speak Spanish.

06:31:41.060 And they was quoting a song by Nelly.

06:31:45.260 Underlay, underlay, mama, yeah, yeah, uh-oh.

06:31:47.500 So I commented, and I posted that in Spanish.

06:31:50.940 If the head right, cue there every night.

06:31:53.460 And she's seen me post that.

06:31:55.340 And when she saw me post that, I got my phone blown up with a whole bunch of messages. 1.00

06:32:00.360 Go fuck that Spanish bitch. 1.00

06:32:02.540 Fuck you. 1.00

06:32:03.280 I'm done. 1.00

06:32:04.340 Never hit me up.

06:32:05.620 Leave me alone.

06:32:06.860 So I'm like, I didn't even know why she was reacting this way. 0.78

06:32:09.760 So I'm like, what the hell?

06:32:10.760 Like, why is she doing all this? 0.89

06:32:12.600 And I said, okay.

06:32:14.640 When she said, I'm done, I just responded, okay.

06:32:16.580 So then after that, she proceeded to call me 54 times.

06:32:19.920 Like, back to back to back.

06:32:21.360 Like, consecutively.

06:32:22.640 54?

06:32:23.300 54 times.

06:32:24.940 So I finally picked up on the 55th time. 1.00

06:32:27.000 And she was in the phone screaming, the fucking Spanish bitch. 1.00

06:32:29.540 She said something. 1.00

06:32:30.340 So I hung up.

06:32:31.840 And then she called me back.

06:32:33.540 And I ignored it.

06:32:34.700 She called me back again.

06:32:35.400 I said, yo, stop calling me. 1.00

06:32:36.320 She said, fuck you. 1.00

06:32:36.960 So after I didn't respond, she called me like 20 more times. 1.00

06:32:42.680 So instead of, and since I didn't respond, she hit me with a text message.

06:32:45.840 I'm getting on a bus right now.

06:32:47.180 And I'm coming to Philadelphia.

06:32:48.580 It was like 2 a.m.

06:32:49.820 She jumped on a mega bus at 2 a.m.

06:32:52.700 And took the mega bus to Philadelphia to come see me to try to talk it out.

06:32:57.500 We ended up talking.

06:32:59.620 I hit again.

06:33:01.880 She got up.

06:33:02.820 She left.

06:33:03.540 I never talked to her again.

06:33:05.080 Because I told her, once you tell me you're done, I'm going to take it as you're done.

06:33:10.220 There's no reconciling with me.

06:33:11.860 You know what would have been funny is if after she came back and you guys were finished,

06:33:16.040 you should have posted, why are you so obsessed with me by Mariah Carey and put that on your story.

06:33:20.780 But before she got on the whole bus on her own dime, as you say,

06:33:25.020 was it clear to her that you guys' relationship was casual and non-monogamous?

06:33:31.020 I'm transparent.

06:33:32.580 Honest.

06:33:33.240 Directly.

06:33:33.480 Okay, that's her.

06:33:34.160 Any woman I deal with, yes. 1.00

06:33:35.380 That's her fault.

06:33:36.200 That's her own fault.

06:33:37.080 Yeah.

06:33:38.240 Q, you also wanted to talk about the woman's self-assessed flaws in dating without blaming the men. 0.97

06:33:47.720 Yeah, I did.

06:33:49.600 Because a lot of women lack accountability when it comes to their poor dating experiences. 1.00

06:33:54.240 So I wanted to know what do you women think you lack when it comes to dating? 1.00

06:33:59.120 What would you change about yourself or what do you think is a flaw about yourself that would ruin a relationship?

06:34:05.160 Um, I would say having an OnlyFans isn't great. 0.67

06:34:11.080 There's sex tapes of me and other men on the internet. 0.85

06:34:13.660 That's not great.

06:34:15.080 Also, my social media is not great.

06:34:18.080 Like, you know, I would agree with all those things.

06:34:20.380 Am I a good partner?

06:34:21.560 Yes.

06:34:22.140 Am I loyal?

06:34:23.380 Yes.

06:34:23.860 Do I, like, care about money and all that stuff?

06:34:26.600 No.

06:34:27.900 But I would say that that takes a huge toll.

06:34:30.520 So you wouldn't turn around and blame the man or say he's insecure for not wanting to date you if he said...

06:34:34.940 No, that's personal preference.

06:34:36.500 That's totally fine.

06:34:37.580 Okay.

06:34:38.720 What about you?

06:34:40.440 I would view it the same way.

06:34:42.880 OnlyFans?

06:34:43.620 Problematic?

06:34:44.260 You wouldn't have an issue if the guy told you he didn't want to deal with you?

06:34:47.260 Well, yeah.

06:34:48.520 That's okay.

06:34:49.840 Okay.

06:34:50.140 So you think...

06:34:51.280 As long as, like, you're not...

06:34:52.380 Like, as long as you respect me and, like, you can communicate it with me, then I don't have a problem.

06:34:57.320 Okay.

06:34:58.180 So neither one of y'all, no behavioral issues, no attitude, no proclivity to be spiteful, jealous?

06:35:05.140 I don't have an attitude.

06:35:06.780 I'm, like, very mellow, but I'm also...

06:35:10.500 Rage in Cajun donated $100.

06:35:13.640 Brixen asked Maddie if she ever has it or not to reply.

06:35:16.960 This will be fun to watch, and she just got up to change it, plus your voice says it all.

06:35:22.380 Drop an Insta, I have receipts.

06:35:25.280 Patriarchy is here to warn men. 0.95

06:35:27.740 Wait, what is it?

06:35:30.120 Do you ever have it on auto-reply?

06:35:32.460 That's his question, I guess?

06:35:33.980 No.

06:35:35.160 I have a message that goes out when you subscribe, and then I have messages that go out on time stuff to, like, everyone at the same time.

06:35:46.600 Okay.

06:35:46.840 Which you can schedule.

06:35:48.300 Good times?

06:35:48.660 Because, yeah, so, as I was saying, behaviorally, no, never burn clothes, never burn video games, never slash tires, never...

06:35:57.440 No.

06:35:58.540 No?

06:35:59.300 Okay.

06:35:59.660 No. 0.94

06:36:00.160 My ex hard-launched another girl while I was with him, because he was, like, that bad of a cheater.

06:36:07.320 And I offered, because he was, like, a little bit ill, I offered to house him for free, get him a car, and pay for his therapy and medication so he could get better.

06:36:19.900 So, no.

06:36:21.060 You dated this guy?

06:36:22.660 For a year and a half.

06:36:23.860 Did he have a...

06:36:24.580 I mean, you were wearing a size queen t-shirt.

06:36:26.320 Did he have a huge peen?

06:36:28.300 Honestly, no, he's, like, slightly above average.

06:36:31.360 Huh.

06:36:32.120 Yeah.

06:36:32.860 Hmm.

06:36:33.420 Really loved him.

06:36:34.260 Never burned.

06:36:35.200 Wow.

06:36:35.540 Any clothes, any video games, slash tires.

06:36:38.280 Did you buy him a car?

06:36:39.180 Was it a beater or, like, a good car?

06:36:41.020 I was rent...

06:36:41.920 What are we talking about, excited?

06:36:43.340 I'm talking about what are your behavioral flaws when it comes to dating you.

06:36:46.780 Yeah.

06:36:47.800 I just...

06:36:48.340 I wouldn't count my first relationship.

06:36:50.440 Like, I wouldn't count what I did in the relationship.

06:36:53.540 Why?

06:36:54.640 Because he deserved it.

06:36:56.420 It was well-deserved.

06:36:57.100 Well, what did he deserve?

06:37:00.100 So, like I said, the economy in Turkey is pretty bad.

06:37:04.120 And this guy, I was talking to him since I was 17, and we were practically, like, engaged.

06:37:10.620 We were going to get married within a...

06:37:13.240 Like, at that time, I think it was, like, two years or something.

06:37:15.860 Um, and then I caught him, like, cheating.

06:37:19.660 And this, like, kept happening.

06:37:23.380 And he would blame me, like, somehow. 0.76

06:37:25.420 Like, you'd be like, oh, like, it's because, like, you're ugly or, like, something like that.

06:37:29.080 And I was, like, little.

06:37:30.480 So, I thought, like, that was, like, the only thing I knew about a guy.

06:37:34.160 So, I was like, oh, like, he's right.

06:37:35.940 Like, so, then, um, so, you know how we were going to get married?

06:37:42.100 Well, he was going to come live in the U.S. 0.69

06:37:44.040 Because, obviously, I didn't want to live in Turkey anymore.

06:37:47.480 Um, and so, he had a sponsor here.

06:37:51.120 Um, and that was his only way of being able to come.

06:37:53.960 Because I'm not a citizen. 0.99

06:37:55.800 Um, so, I fucked his sponsor and filmed it. 0.99

06:37:59.820 So, you're spiteful. 1.00

06:38:01.640 Revenge. 1.00

06:38:03.060 Oh, shit, so sorry. 0.99

06:38:04.040 Uh, what? 0.99

06:38:06.340 Sorry, that took a while.

06:38:07.320 Sorry. 0.99

06:38:07.920 You fucked his bouncer. 1.00

06:38:10.120 Sponsor. 1.00

06:38:10.780 Sponsor.

06:38:12.420 But, did he not deserve it?

06:38:14.660 What did he do again?

06:38:15.780 He cheated.

06:38:16.980 Oh.

06:38:17.460 Even, like, with my mom's friend.

06:38:19.620 Like.

06:38:20.960 Was she hot? 1.00

06:38:22.300 She was 70.

06:38:23.760 70? 1.00

06:38:24.440 He fucked a 70-year-old. 1.00

06:38:25.780 What the fuck? 1.00

06:38:27.280 Sounds like he had a sex addiction. 1.00

06:38:30.600 Were you wanting to go around the table? 0.99

06:38:32.640 Yeah, yeah, I was going to go around the table.

06:38:34.140 I want it all to tell me.

06:38:36.520 Um, I think my flaw in the relationship is probably emotional volatility.

06:38:41.520 Okay.

06:38:41.920 I think a lot of women struggle with that. 1.00

06:38:43.720 And, as you mature, I think you get a better handle on your negative emotions.

06:38:48.200 And, you stop being such, like, a detriment to your partner.

06:38:51.900 Okay.

06:38:52.380 So, that's what I'm working on.

06:38:53.820 Okay.

06:38:54.360 I like that.

06:38:55.780 What about you?

06:38:57.500 Um, I don't know.

06:39:00.100 I feel like.

06:39:01.420 Oh, you perfect.

06:39:02.740 I'm not perfect.

06:39:03.720 Oh, okay.

06:39:04.340 But, I don't think there's anything, like, crazy or anything.

06:39:06.740 I can just be moody and, like, hangry.

06:39:09.480 What do you think would piss a man off?

06:39:10.680 Red flag.

06:39:11.740 Yeah.

06:39:12.120 What do you think would piss him off?

06:39:13.280 Or, hangry, red flag.

06:39:15.940 No self-sabotaging.

06:39:17.780 No.

06:39:19.280 Wait, what was the question?

06:39:20.540 Like, what do you think would at least piss him off?

06:39:23.240 Or.

06:39:23.560 Something that I would do?

06:39:24.600 Yeah.

06:39:25.000 Like, behaviorally.

06:39:27.040 Like, what do you have a tendency to do when you're upset?

06:39:30.100 Like, ignore people when I'm mad.

06:39:32.420 Ignore people?

06:39:33.180 Like, I'll, like, completely, like, not, like, ghost, but I'll just, like, don't go on my phone.

06:39:38.620 Just won't respond.

06:39:39.740 Yeah.

06:39:40.660 How do you respond if that's done to you?

06:39:44.780 By a man? 0.86

06:39:45.920 Mm-hmm.

06:39:46.420 That's never happened to me.

06:39:47.680 Oh.

06:39:48.020 Oh, she got it made.

06:39:48.980 Okay.

06:39:49.680 Excuse me.

06:39:50.560 Well, you, you was laughing.

06:39:52.400 I'm curious to know about you.

06:39:53.760 I'm curious.

06:39:55.240 Um.

06:39:57.440 What have I done to a man?

06:39:58.860 Yeah, what do you do?

06:39:59.740 When he's done something bad to me?

06:40:02.360 Um.

06:40:03.560 Okay.

06:40:04.860 And don't judge me.

06:40:06.240 But in the past, I have sliced tires.

06:40:09.960 I have thrown bricks in cars.

06:40:12.300 I have put sugars in tank.

06:40:14.140 I, yeah, I have hit.

06:40:16.420 I've.

06:40:16.620 Ooh.

06:40:17.340 Yeah.

06:40:17.600 You've physically.

06:40:19.240 Physical abuse?

06:40:21.160 Yeah.

06:40:21.820 She reminded me of one of my exes. 0.99

06:40:24.760 I have.

06:40:25.480 I have.

06:40:27.540 What, what did the guy do?

06:40:28.980 He just kind of like, he was five minutes late to pick you up?

06:40:32.220 No.

06:40:32.800 Like, he was just cheating and playing with my emotions.

06:40:36.260 And I, um, don't like that.

06:40:39.440 You could just broke up with him.

06:40:41.320 You know, I have this, like, very, um.

06:40:43.980 Instead of committing multiple felonies.

06:40:45.600 I, I, um, and I have done that to more than one person.

06:40:50.600 I'm so gnarly.

06:40:51.480 I'm so happy.

06:40:52.060 But, um, I just have this, like, it's really bad, and I'll admit it, but. 0.56

06:40:55.280 You deranged.

06:40:57.420 I'm bipolar. 0.95

06:40:59.360 One or two.

06:41:01.320 And one.

06:41:02.820 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm working on it, but, um, yeah, I'm, I got a temper on

06:41:09.400 me.

06:41:09.580 I will say that.

06:41:10.220 I got a temper.

06:41:12.200 But I'm fun.

06:41:13.320 I mean, I'm.

06:41:14.400 They, they always are.

06:41:15.920 They always are.

06:41:17.100 It's always the fun ones that'll put sugar in your tank.

06:41:19.100 You know what they say. 1.00

06:41:19.960 Crazy people fuck the best, though. 1.00

06:41:22.380 Is it worth it, though? 1.00

06:41:25.280 Is it worth it?

06:41:26.800 There's a verse in the Bible, better a man alone in the desert than with a nagging wife. 1.00

06:41:31.440 Proverbs 21, 19.

06:41:32.960 Yeah.

06:41:33.640 Of course, you know that one, right?

06:41:34.900 Yeah, that's my favorite.

06:41:36.380 Perhaps the only Bible verse.

06:41:38.860 Name, name a few more.

06:41:40.720 Name a few more.

06:41:41.580 No, I think that's it.

06:41:42.440 That's the only one I know.

06:41:44.520 Jesus whooped.

06:41:45.680 Well, John 3, 16, but okay.

06:41:48.120 She said she got a crazy side.

06:41:49.840 I said no.

06:41:50.940 Oh, okay.

06:41:51.500 I thought you said, yeah.

06:41:52.440 Nothing?

06:41:52.960 I feel like she's a sweetheart.

06:41:54.540 She, she appears that way, but. 0.60

06:41:56.100 I could, I could never.

06:41:56.820 Every woman has something hiding under. 1.00

06:41:59.480 It's just waiting.

06:42:00.720 She slashed tires, for sure. 1.00

06:42:02.020 It could be, it could be anything, like, maybe you're insecure.

06:42:03.820 Have you ever stabbed anybody?

06:42:04.840 Yeah, insecure, jealousy, spiteful, petty.

06:42:08.360 I mean. 1.00

06:42:08.980 Murdering his whole family. 0.92

06:42:10.120 You ever slap the guy? 0.98

06:42:10.680 No.

06:42:11.460 No.

06:42:12.280 Genocide.

06:42:13.700 Anything?

06:42:13.940 Maybe, like, that's, like, my way of flirting. 0.99

06:42:15.900 I'll, like, hit them. 0.98

06:42:17.600 Oh, okay. 0.99

06:42:18.140 Not, like, slap them. 0.69

06:42:19.900 Oh, okay.

06:42:20.600 So you've never been pissed off at a man?

06:42:22.240 I mean, yeah, of course, but, like, not physically or anything, like.

06:42:26.000 Have you ever ruined a man's whole reputation and got him fired from his job?

06:42:30.260 We know you have.

06:42:30.920 Wait, shoot, hold on.

06:42:31.780 We, we, we, we know she has.

06:42:33.700 Holy cow. 0.89

06:42:34.260 She's taken it up to CEO.

06:42:36.140 Oh, yeah.

06:42:36.600 Oh, yeah.

06:42:37.260 Yeah. 1.00

06:42:37.440 Oh, shit. 1.00

06:42:38.420 Okay. 1.00

06:42:38.960 I'm not proud of it.

06:42:39.580 I'm not proud of it. 0.98

06:42:40.940 I've reported my ex for disability fraud and sent in videos of us fucking to the government. 0.98

06:42:48.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

06:42:50.000 I love it. 0.51

06:42:50.920 You're a snitch. 0.81

06:42:52.080 Um, he was lying to me about having a job. 0.95

06:42:55.960 So, he was faking disability.

06:42:59.840 Snitch.

06:43:00.180 Yeah, you ain't have to write. 1.00

06:43:00.960 Fucking rat. 1.00

06:43:01.760 That's crazy. 1.00

06:43:02.380 He was a cheater. 1.00

06:43:04.780 And lying. 0.97

06:43:06.220 You want him to just get a free almost seven grand a month?

06:43:09.080 No, I'm Russian.

06:43:10.160 Russian.

06:43:10.740 That makes sense.

06:43:12.260 Oh, right.

06:43:12.920 Yeah.

06:43:13.300 I'm Russian, too.

06:43:15.160 You are?

06:43:15.760 Yeah.

06:43:16.240 Oh.

06:43:16.680 I knew you was something spicy.

06:43:18.780 I, what, what's your story?

06:43:21.840 What do you, what you do when you get angry?

06:43:24.520 Because I know you got some stories.

06:43:26.440 Well, as you know, I like to debate.

06:43:28.200 Yeah, I know that.

06:43:29.900 Um, honestly, so I was in a really toxic relationship for like three years.

06:43:34.820 Mm-hmm.

06:43:35.300 Um, and my, my ex was like abusive physically, verbally.

06:43:42.840 I mean, like things that I could tell you, I could go on and on, but I'm not going to

06:43:45.920 get into it.

06:43:46.900 But I, I never did anything back.

06:43:49.600 I kind of just took it and like sat in the corner and cried.

06:43:52.660 That's really what I did.

06:43:54.220 Then after I left him, I carried some of that trauma into my relationships.

06:44:01.260 Mm-hmm.

06:44:01.560 Um, and so for me, um, what I needed was because my ex would, would say things about my appearance.

06:44:09.060 And so like, I'm the person that like, I do have insecurity.

06:44:13.060 And so I need my man, my husband to like validate me a lot.

06:44:18.660 And I think that's probably my downfall.

06:44:20.900 And also I can catch an attitude real quick, but I have worked on that a lot.

06:44:24.940 Mm-hmm.

06:44:26.620 Seriously, I'm a lot better.

06:44:29.080 Mm-hmm.

06:44:29.440 It's the personal growth for me.

06:44:30.880 He loves me.

06:44:33.960 Love you, babe.

06:44:34.580 If you're watching, I know you're watching.

06:44:36.900 Hmm.

06:44:38.240 Last thing from you, Q.

06:44:39.520 You said also that you.

06:44:46.520 Who?

06:44:47.240 What do they expect from the men they date?

06:44:50.140 Do you want me to go around the table on this?

06:44:51.800 Yeah, you can go around the table.

06:44:52.600 What do you expect from the men you date?

06:44:55.280 I expect honesty, transparency, a drive, some kind of passion.

06:45:01.420 I don't care if you make a lot of money, but if you're passionate about something that's

06:45:05.060 important to me and respect.

06:45:09.420 Those are valid.

06:45:10.480 What if they're passionate about like frogs?

06:45:14.180 I was going to say ducks.

06:45:15.840 Ducks.

06:45:16.580 I was going to say ducks.

06:45:17.420 Okay.

06:45:18.080 They know like the taxonomy of ducks.

06:45:21.440 I would usually prefer some kind of artist over that, but if, I mean, well, if you're

06:45:30.060 really well-versed in something, you're probably intelligent.

06:45:34.000 What if he has like a really good knowledge of World of Warcraft?

06:45:39.520 Like what if he knows, like.

06:45:40.480 Oh my God, I love this topic.

06:45:42.120 Yeah.

06:45:42.420 So what if he knows, for example, you know, all the best, you know, everything.

06:45:51.260 Oh my God, I'm butchering it already.

06:45:54.320 The BIS races.

06:45:56.420 So for example, if you're playing warrior, classic World of Warcraft and you're human,

06:46:00.560 right, you're going to want to be, wait, sorry, warrior, you're going to want to be

06:46:04.300 human, right?

06:46:04.920 Because of that passive sword spec, five plus sword skill, five plus mace skill, PVE, you

06:46:12.220 definitely go human, right?

06:46:13.580 Now there's some debate over what's best, of course, if you're going to be a PVP, right?

06:46:19.360 Now, what if he has like in depth, like he, he's, his knowledge of World of Warcraft, he's

06:46:25.540 a raid leader.

06:46:26.180 Like he knows all the mechanics with, with bosses in Molten Core, Black and Will Air,

06:46:32.580 Max, AQ40, also world bosses too.

06:46:36.260 He knows all the mechanics.

06:46:37.660 He can competently teach and raid, teach how to, you know, even somebody who doesn't have

06:46:43.600 any experience, he can teach them how to raid.

06:46:46.620 Yeah.

06:46:47.300 Right.

06:46:47.720 And he's just like, he knows everything.

06:46:50.800 He knows like everything about the game, best in slot.

06:46:54.980 He knows like what's best in slot. 0.98

06:46:56.600 He knows the best enchants for your gear and your weapons and shit.

06:47:00.840 And then like, obviously when it comes to like the world buff meta, like he knows, okay, 0.99

06:47:04.920 here's the best way first, check this shit out, right? 0.86

06:47:07.000 If you're on Horde, the first thing you do, you get DM, no, no, no, sorry, excuse me. 0.98

06:47:11.460 The first thing you do, if you're buffing on Horde, like, you know, uh, for getting world

06:47:15.580 buffs and shit, you're going to definitely, you have to go to Dire Maul first and you're

06:47:19.760 going to get the three buffs from Dire Maul, right? 0.99

06:47:22.160 Boom.

06:47:22.660 Then you're immediately going to, you're going to Hearth, you're going to Hearth, right?

06:47:26.520 Yep.

06:47:27.200 Hearth.

06:47:27.920 Then you need to go and get Songflower from Felwood.

06:47:31.560 You need to get Songflower.

06:47:32.660 That only lasts an hour.

06:47:33.760 You need to, hopefully you get summoned.

06:47:35.980 You get summoned to Felwood.

06:47:37.360 You get Songflower buff.

06:47:38.940 That only lasts an hour.

06:47:39.740 Or, then you just Hearth back to, no, no, sorry, you have a mage there.

06:47:43.880 The mage is going to give you a portal back to Orgrimmar.

06:47:46.200 Then you're going to get Warchief's, Warchief's Blessing.

06:47:48.900 Right, I think I'm experiencing brain rot.

06:47:51.040 Wait, quick question, fire mage or ice mage? 0.99

06:47:54.200 I thought you were going to say you were, like, getting wet or some shit. 0.97

06:47:54.800 I thought she was getting wet over here. 0.97

06:47:57.360 No.

06:47:57.720 So you play video games? 1.00

06:47:58.900 So, like, check this shit out, right? 0.99

06:48:00.900 You're going to get Rally and Cry, you're going to get Rally and Cry of the Dragon Slayer, 1.00

06:48:05.500 and you're going to get Warchief's Blessing, right? 0.99

06:48:07.880 Check that shit out, right? 0.99

06:48:08.820 Then you've got to fucking get, like, summoned to Stranglethorn because you need the ZG buff, right? 1.00

06:48:18.660 Yeah. 0.98

06:48:19.040 You know what I mean.

06:48:20.000 I'm right there.

06:48:21.060 That's sufficient passion?

06:48:22.520 Okay, so...

06:48:23.420 I don't like video games.

06:48:27.420 So someone that spends that much time on a computer playing video games would be hard for me to be with, hypothetically. 0.99

06:48:35.700 Damn, you just wasted your time. 0.99

06:48:37.000 No matter the amount of passion, but I did start to get wet, like, maybe 30 seconds in, 1.00

06:48:42.920 but at the 2 minute, 45 second mark, I, like, started to dry up.

06:48:47.000 So maybe, like, cut the spiel a little.

06:48:49.400 What if he's, like, a little goblin, like Joker D, right?

06:48:52.520 And he's, like, world first to hit 60 on, like, a fresh realm?

06:48:55.580 Like, he's a mage, right?

06:48:56.580 No, yeah.

06:48:56.860 Obviously, you're going to be a mage if you're trying to hit, like, level 60 first.

06:49:00.480 For sure.

06:49:00.800 So, like, you're just, like, think...

06:49:02.080 The way I compare this show is, like, I'm AoE farming you guys.

06:49:05.460 Like, you guys are kind of noobs, right?

06:49:07.280 Like, you're kind of noobs.

06:49:08.600 And I'm, like, just AoE farming you.

06:49:10.660 Like, you're, like, some murlocs, right? 1.00

06:49:12.160 I'm not a noob.

06:49:12.920 And I'm just AoE farming you guys.

06:49:14.500 And it's just, like, I'm going to Frost Nova.

06:49:17.120 Boom.

06:49:17.560 Easy.

06:49:18.200 And then I'm going to, like, Arcane Explosion.

06:49:20.100 And then, like, Flamestrike Cone of Cold.

06:49:22.900 And then Arcane Explosion. 0.99

06:49:24.240 Like, but Cone of Cold to keep you guys snared and shit. 0.97

06:49:27.080 And it's just, like, I'm just farming you guys. 0.71

06:49:29.180 Like, easy XP.

06:49:30.900 I respect that.

06:49:32.060 Yeah.

06:49:32.720 Honestly.

06:49:33.420 Yeah, that's something that I would, like, maybe respect.

06:49:35.420 And, like, when you explain it the second time around...

06:49:38.000 Yeah.

06:49:38.380 I would now consider that a high-value man that I would consider dating.

06:49:42.940 Definitely.

06:49:42.960 Huge.

06:49:43.380 Yeah, like, this is, like, I'm, like, basically, like, I'm just pulling mobs, right?

06:49:47.820 Like, this is me pulling, like, mobs?

06:49:49.520 Literally, you're pulling mobs.

06:49:51.020 Yeah.

06:49:51.620 No, but my biggest question is, like, what are you doing later?

06:49:55.300 What?

06:49:57.080 You should ask the panel.

06:49:58.160 It worked.

06:49:59.020 Huh?

06:49:59.300 It worked.

06:49:59.980 It worked.

06:50:00.500 Mage, paladin, or warrior.

06:50:04.300 I'm sorry, Maddie.

06:50:05.200 I know you're enamored with me.

06:50:07.740 I know, but unfortunately, because...

06:50:10.860 I'm on my knees.

06:50:12.320 Yeah, yeah.

06:50:13.820 Unfortunately...

06:50:14.340 I'm begging.

06:50:15.820 Unfortunately, Maddie, the fact, just by virtue...

06:50:18.740 Degrade me, Daddy.

06:50:20.300 No.

06:50:21.700 He's...

06:50:22.380 What?

06:50:25.880 She's trying to... 0.99

06:50:26.680 Just by virtue, Maddie, just by virtue of there being videos of you having sexual intercourse 0.99

06:50:32.960 with men on the internet, I couldn't do it. 0.97

06:50:35.980 Sorry.

06:50:37.040 For those reasons, I'm out.

06:50:40.460 Next one.

06:50:41.600 You've been eliminated.

06:50:44.880 You're fired.

06:50:46.540 Respect.

06:50:48.340 I have a question.

06:50:49.380 Yeah.

06:50:49.820 Have you had a girl on the panel that played WoW?

06:50:52.180 Probably.

06:50:53.200 I don't play video games anymore.

06:50:54.860 That's just, like, my old self.

06:50:57.400 That's all just on memory?

06:50:58.960 Yep.

06:50:59.720 That's pretty.

06:51:00.480 My husband plays a lot of WoW. 1.00

06:51:03.060 Well, the fucking Chad. 1.00

06:51:04.720 A fucking legend. 1.00

06:51:06.180 I think he got legendary today. 1.00

06:51:07.560 Wait, okay, I'm sorry.

06:51:07.900 I totally...

06:51:08.500 We were going around the table.

06:51:09.420 Yeah, we were going around.

06:51:09.980 I'm sorry.

06:51:10.820 I don't know if she remembers the question.

06:51:12.340 What was it?

06:51:12.720 Oh, what do you expect from men that you date?

06:51:19.900 Not a lot.

06:51:27.120 Really?

06:51:30.240 Like, probably just, like, respect.

06:51:32.560 And then, like, kind of just, like, keep me on my toes.

06:51:35.420 And that's it.

06:51:36.160 Keep you on your toes.

06:51:37.280 Yeah.

06:51:37.600 Just, like, so, like, I'm not, like, bored.

06:51:39.460 Like, you know, like, just always, like... 0.99

06:51:40.840 Like, occasionally treat you like shit, but also... 1.00

06:51:43.060 Well, he should treat me like shit at times. 1.00

06:51:48.020 He should? 1.00

06:51:48.920 Like, in bed.

06:51:50.680 Like, you know? 1.00

06:51:51.560 Bro, these girls be like, I want a guy to respect me, but also spit on my face and call me a fucking cum slut whore. 1.00

06:51:59.120 You... 1.00

06:51:59.520 Right?

06:52:00.160 Yeah.

06:52:00.520 It's so weird.

06:52:01.720 I don't get it.

06:52:03.700 It's kind of weird.

06:52:05.760 You know what's funny? 0.95

06:52:06.740 Like, the, like, most, like, zealous feminists who are like, men should respect women are also, like, the most degenerate in the bedroom. 1.00

06:52:16.520 Like, they want, like, I'm talking gnarly fantasies and shit. 1.00

06:52:20.380 Want to be degraded. 1.00

06:52:21.700 Want fucking, like... 1.00

06:52:23.360 They're, what is it? 1.00

06:52:26.360 Masochists. 1.00

06:52:26.760 It's fucking crazy, bro. 1.00

06:52:31.260 It's weird. 0.99

06:52:32.220 Makes sense, though. 1.00

06:52:34.840 Okay, so you want to be treated like shit in bed, basically? 1.00

06:52:39.640 Give us an example. 1.00

06:52:41.500 No.

06:52:42.940 Do you want to be slapped? 0.92

06:52:44.260 Is that it? 0.99

06:52:44.740 You want to be slapped in the bedroom? 0.99

06:52:46.440 At least. 0.99

06:52:47.460 At least? 0.97

06:52:48.200 You want to be punched? 1.00

06:52:49.620 Damn. 1.00

06:52:50.440 You aight? 1.00

06:52:51.760 You aight?

06:52:54.560 You aight.

06:52:56.760 You aight, bro.

06:52:59.660 Trauma.

06:53:00.140 Why are you laughing, bro?

06:53:05.960 It's like that Rihanna song.

06:53:07.380 Wait, so, okay.

06:53:08.060 So, at least, the bare minimum is a guy for just to smack you across the face as hard as he can? 0.98

06:53:14.080 I mean, he should at least slap me. 0.95

06:53:15.300 Bro, she's getting excited now, right? 1.00

06:53:16.580 What the fuck? 0.99

06:53:17.260 She's, like, fanning herself. 1.00

06:53:19.080 Like, ooh, this talk is getting me excited.

06:53:23.080 It's really hot.

06:53:24.240 Oh, temperature-wise?

06:53:26.500 Okay, cope. 0.96

06:53:28.580 I would say, like, he needs, like, at least slap.

06:53:31.120 You want to be tied up? 0.94

06:53:32.080 Like, shabari? 0.99

06:53:33.340 I would say, like, at least slap or, like, to choke me. 0.98

06:53:37.400 At the very least. 0.99

06:53:38.420 Like, drag nails across your back? 0.87

06:53:41.500 You want that? 0.80

06:53:42.040 No.

06:53:46.040 You want me to leave?

06:53:46.740 Oh, whoa.

06:53:47.540 Whoa.

06:53:49.000 Sorry, you want a guy. 1.00

06:53:49.880 Whoa, what the fuck? 0.99

06:53:54.360 You want a guy to leave, like, marks on you, basically. 0.99

06:54:00.340 Not scratch marks.

06:54:02.080 Spank marks?

06:54:03.360 Sure.

06:54:03.660 Like, you want to be raw, basically.

06:54:05.600 Sure.

06:54:07.040 You okay, bro?

06:54:08.040 You aight?

06:54:10.240 You okay?

06:54:11.680 You straight?

06:54:13.720 You good, bro?

06:54:15.680 What else?

06:54:16.560 What are we talking here?

06:54:18.420 Like, you want to, like, not be able to walk the next day?

06:54:20.700 What are we talking about?

06:54:22.560 It's a bonus if I can't.

06:54:24.780 Like, no, I got squatty.

06:54:31.520 You want to be, like, choked to death, pretty much? 0.52

06:54:35.900 Near death?

06:54:37.400 Bro, she's, like, hardcore with the choking, right? 1.00

06:54:39.720 Am I right?

06:54:40.320 She wants to see the pearly gates for a second.

06:54:41.720 Like, you want to be, like, near passing out, correct?

06:54:44.920 I never said that.

06:54:46.520 Oh, I'm asking you for clarification.

06:54:49.160 Yeah.

06:54:50.640 Okay.

06:54:51.100 Okay.

06:54:51.480 All right.

06:54:51.880 Do you want to be, like, tied up and, like, be, like, hanging from a roof? 1.00

06:55:00.100 Wait, what the fuck? 0.99

06:55:01.960 I don't know where that is. 1.00

06:55:02.440 Stop.

06:55:04.080 Hanging from the ceiling, basically.

06:55:05.720 Digging a hole.

06:55:07.400 Oh, I get you're into that, but relax, bro.

06:55:11.320 She's laughing because she's like, yep, sign me up.

06:55:14.440 Sign me up.

06:55:15.020 I'm getting rubbed up, too, over here.

06:55:17.880 I mean, I'll try anything.

06:55:21.880 Are you currently not being fully satisfied in your current relationship?

06:55:28.380 No, but I am.

06:55:30.960 Yeah, you're way too far from the mic.

06:55:32.360 So sorry.

06:55:33.340 No, but I am trying everything once.

06:55:36.340 You're, like, I feel like your boyfriend's a really nice guy, and you're, like, forcing him. 1.00

06:55:41.060 Dude, girls be doing this shit. 1.00

06:55:42.400 They be fucking, they be fucking, uh, what's the word for it? 1.00

06:55:46.760 They'll be, uh, corrupting, you're corrupting your nice boyfriend into abusing you during sex. 1.00

06:55:53.940 Consensually, but, like, you know. 0.98

06:55:55.260 Is he watching this?

06:55:57.740 I hope not. 1.00

06:55:59.000 Like, he doesn't, he wants to be, like, oh, sweetheart, and you're, like, no, bitch, call me a fucking whore. 1.00

06:56:04.520 No, he was so sweet. 1.00

06:56:05.960 He, like, said something, like, really, like, romantic, and I was really in the mood. 0.98

06:56:13.760 And he fucked it up. 0.99

06:56:14.720 And so I slapped him last night. 1.00

06:56:19.460 You slapped him last night?

06:56:20.780 I just asked you what was your problems in relationships. 0.69

06:56:23.600 You slapped him last night.

06:56:25.540 Because he was being romantic. 0.56

06:56:29.120 You punished this man for most of the things that men think they're supposed to do with women.

06:56:33.360 Wait, you slapped him?

06:56:34.260 Yeah, she slapped him. 0.99

06:56:35.160 Wait, during sex? 0.99

06:56:36.500 Yeah. 0.97

06:56:38.460 Was, did, did, did he ask for that?

06:56:43.180 No.

06:56:44.720 Non-consensual slapping.

06:56:47.880 No, but it was, like, so he would slap me.

06:56:52.040 You slapped him so he would slap you back?

06:56:55.540 Did he slap you back?

06:56:58.280 No, he'd say, what'd you do that for?

06:57:03.120 He was so confused.

06:57:05.140 Yeah, she made him soft. 0.99

06:57:06.280 Sex session was over. 0.99

06:57:08.800 Oh, my God. 0.97

06:57:10.240 What else did you do?

06:57:12.240 Oh, God.

06:57:13.040 Last night? 0.96

06:57:13.680 Did you, like, punch him in the sternum? 1.00

06:57:16.700 Like a fucking sternum punch? 1.00

06:57:21.480 Tell us more. 0.99

06:57:22.720 Come on, let's get, we need more details.

06:57:24.040 This is good.

06:57:24.680 Oh, God.

06:57:25.540 Into the mic.

06:57:27.880 Scoot into the table, please.

06:57:30.780 Is this good?

06:57:31.980 Huh?

06:57:32.340 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

06:57:33.320 Oh, the whole chair.

06:57:34.040 Yeah, you can scoot the chair in.

06:57:35.060 That's why.

06:57:35.560 That's the problem.

06:57:36.420 Yep, there you go.

06:57:37.360 Go ahead.

06:57:39.380 Okay.

06:57:40.480 What else?

06:57:41.700 Last night?

06:57:44.120 Sure.

06:57:44.600 What else went down?

06:57:45.280 She stuck on last night.

06:57:46.340 No, I can't say anything else about last night.

06:57:53.020 Oh, okay.

06:57:56.080 No, because I was just, okay.

06:57:59.280 In the moment, I was really high, and I thought it would make sense.

06:58:03.500 Because, like, I don't know.

06:58:06.540 Because I'm, like, doing it to him.

06:58:07.720 She committed sexual assault.

06:58:10.480 And a sexual assault. 0.70

06:58:15.760 That's crazy.

06:58:16.880 That's crazy.

06:58:18.800 And she was laughing while she... 0.70

06:58:21.180 That's the crazy part.

06:58:21.880 She was, like, yeah, I slapped him. 1.00

06:58:23.480 That's some Harley Quinn shit. 1.00

06:58:24.520 Damn, bro. 1.00

06:58:26.660 Damn. 1.00

06:58:26.840 Wait, it's sexual assault? 1.00

06:58:27.860 Because she slapped him while... 0.99

06:58:29.080 During sex. 0.98

06:58:29.620 It's kind of dark.

06:58:30.380 Not going to lie.

06:58:32.060 We're just laughing.

06:58:32.700 But the sex was consensual.

06:58:34.340 No, sexual assault.

06:58:35.520 You know what I mean? 0.99

06:58:35.860 She slapped him during sex. 0.99

06:58:39.600 Girl. 0.99

06:58:41.260 Not the literal sexual assault.

06:58:44.240 You get what I'm saying?

06:58:45.420 Oh, my God, yeah.

06:58:46.640 Okay, I was, like, huh?

06:58:49.100 I'm there.

06:58:49.740 I'm there.

06:58:52.880 We can move on.

06:58:54.620 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

06:58:55.680 Before we do...

06:58:57.880 So you slapped him?

06:59:01.540 Was it, like, hard?

06:59:02.860 Or was it just, like, a little, like...

06:59:03.880 Oh, it was hard.

06:59:04.420 It was probably hard.

06:59:05.220 It was...

06:59:05.880 She got...

06:59:06.440 She got...

06:59:07.060 She got a good...

06:59:07.960 She got a good cross.

06:59:09.380 So the first one wasn't.

06:59:11.300 Oh.

06:59:11.860 Oh, there was more than one.

06:59:14.600 I'm out.

06:59:17.220 How many times did you slap him?

06:59:20.500 Twice? 0.84

06:59:21.880 Two chains.

06:59:23.380 Two to three times, actually.

06:59:24.720 Oh, two to three.

06:59:25.340 Whoa.

06:59:26.240 I think it was...

06:59:26.840 This is girls who are, like... 1.00

06:59:27.840 Yeah, my body count's, like, 11, maybe 12, 13, maybe 14, maybe 15, 16, you know?

06:59:33.920 That's what I do.

06:59:35.380 What do you mean? 0.98

06:59:36.100 Slap niggas. 1.00

06:59:36.620 Have a high body count? 0.83

06:59:39.300 No, it's just, like, it's lower.

06:59:41.500 Oh, so you slapped him, like, seven times?

06:59:43.740 I don't know.

06:59:44.340 Was he into it?

06:59:45.120 And then pretty sure it was twice.

06:59:46.680 Was he into it?

06:59:47.300 It was twice.

06:59:47.860 Was he into it?

06:59:49.200 No.

06:59:50.100 Wait, so you...

06:59:51.200 She ruined it.

06:59:52.480 You did it once, he didn't like it, and you did it again?

06:59:55.340 No.

06:59:56.000 And then you did it once, and he didn't have a reaction.

06:59:59.980 Oh, so you slapped him harder.

07:00:06.360 You, you, I, bro?

07:00:08.260 And then, wait, so then you did it again, and he didn't have a reaction, right?

07:00:14.200 The second time.

07:00:15.460 So then you slapped him harder the third time.

07:00:17.100 No, I, I think he, he had a reaction the second time.

07:00:20.360 I was really high.

07:00:21.720 Was this...

07:00:22.300 You said you just started dating this guy, right?

07:00:24.900 Is this, like, your first few times having sex?

07:00:27.760 No. 0.94

07:00:29.060 Are you high right now?

07:00:30.340 No.

07:00:31.500 We've been talking for a year.

07:00:33.600 Oh.

07:00:34.420 Okay.

07:00:35.800 And this is your first time ever slapping him? 0.96

07:00:37.300 When's the, when's the first time you had sex? 0.77

07:00:40.760 Like, a year ago?

07:00:41.720 Yeah.

07:00:42.140 Oh, okay.

07:00:43.000 Rage in Cajun donated $100.

07:00:45.820 I was already subscribed, and you sent a message four minutes before Podden responded to message during.

07:00:52.180 I didn't know you'd be on, but decided to try it.

07:00:55.020 I bet your heart just thinking about it lol.

07:00:58.000 Oh.

07:00:59.100 Okay.

07:01:00.260 Here, wait, let's, it's getting late.

07:01:01.940 I do, we'll go around the table on this final point, and then...

07:01:05.940 Have you abused other partners?

07:01:09.200 Have you slapped other partners?

07:01:10.600 Wait, of the 30 men, how many of them did you slap?

07:01:14.700 No.

07:01:15.460 Oh, okay.

07:01:15.960 Sorry.

07:01:16.320 Okay, go ahead.

07:01:16.700 I want a man who's in deep commitment to himself and God.

07:01:23.280 That is beautiful.

07:01:24.980 That is so beautiful.

07:01:26.620 Touch my heart.

07:01:27.280 What was the question again?

07:01:28.380 What do you want in a man? 0.93

07:01:29.360 What do I want in a man? 0.95

07:01:30.260 Yes.

07:01:30.700 For them to be loyal, like a support system, and like a genuine connection between us.

07:01:39.360 Okay.

07:01:42.620 I would like a man who's honest, loyal, understanding of me, and passionate, very fiery, passionate,

07:01:54.300 and has integrity, and respectful.

07:01:58.500 So what?

07:01:59.320 Okay.

07:02:00.280 What?

07:02:01.160 What?

07:02:03.240 Respectful.

07:02:03.840 I'm just thinking about everything he need not have, just in case you get pissed off.

07:02:11.140 He need an electric car.

07:02:12.560 No.

07:02:13.120 Not an electric car. 0.99

07:02:14.560 Might find some way to electrocute him. 0.98

07:02:16.640 Oh, my God. 0.99

07:02:18.000 I don't know.

07:02:18.900 I don't know what that guy is.

07:02:21.160 I don't know.

07:02:22.300 Next.

07:02:23.720 I want a man that's, like, respecting of me.

07:02:27.700 Not just me, though, but, like, my family, my friends.

07:02:30.480 I think that's, like, really important, especially, like, my friends.

07:02:34.840 Honest, loyal, definitely has a passion, like, he's driven something.

07:02:40.980 Okay.

07:02:43.240 There's a lot I can say, but I'll make it concise.

07:02:45.980 Somebody my dad approves of, a Christian, God-fearing man, protector, leader, strong in

07:02:52.220 shape, makes good money, and is loving.

07:03:00.880 Okay.

07:03:01.320 I asked that question because I wanted to see if you guys had any delusional answers,

07:03:05.540 but you all did good, except you. 0.98

07:03:07.020 You slapping niggas. 1.00

07:03:08.140 I don't know about that one, but you all did good. 0.70

07:03:10.980 You guys got some realistic expectations.

07:03:13.260 I like that.

07:03:13.700 Did you have anything further on that one, or?

07:03:17.480 No, no.

07:03:18.640 That's what I was looking for.

07:03:19.640 They didn't give me what I was looking for.

07:03:21.080 Last thing.

07:03:22.140 What's everybody's body count, starting with?

07:03:25.280 12.

07:03:26.080 Yeah.

07:03:26.240 45.

07:03:35.060 2.

07:03:36.540 I prefer not to say.

07:03:38.220 Range?

07:03:39.900 I prefer not to say.

07:03:41.200 It's for me and my boyfriend.

07:03:43.140 Do you want to do, you could do, like, less than 5, less than 10?

07:03:47.340 Prefer not to say.

07:03:48.880 Yeah, same.

07:03:49.760 Oh, boo. 1.00

07:03:53.700 Yeah, same.

07:03:55.620 Boring.

07:03:58.400 I'm not saying my answer.

07:04:02.360 Sorry.

07:04:03.280 I said enough.

07:04:05.320 Okay.

07:04:06.560 Well, yo, I'ma give you guys props, those of you who didn't answer.

07:04:11.560 Thank you.

07:04:12.420 You get my respect, my admiration.

07:04:17.660 Would you judge me for that number?

07:04:20.420 What do you mean?

07:04:20.980 If I was, like, interested in dating you?

07:04:22.940 If I was, yeah, not an OnlyFans girl, no sex tapes, a girl that you were attracted, whatever,

07:04:28.540 that you met on a dating site, and then you were like, oh, I kind of like her, and then

07:04:32.080 I was like, my body count's 12, which you'd be like, ugh.

07:04:35.440 She belongs to the streets. 0.92

07:04:37.780 Really?

07:04:38.820 You're a 10 and under.

07:04:40.560 Are you a 5 and under?

07:04:41.940 You mean my body count?

07:04:43.180 No.

07:04:43.860 Or just what I'd prefer?

07:04:44.940 What you'd prefer.

07:04:45.560 Well, the lower, the better.

07:04:46.760 Okay, then what's yours?

07:04:48.240 Oh, I don't share my body count.

07:04:49.500 Yeah.

07:04:50.240 Yeah.

07:04:51.120 I don't share it.

07:04:52.480 Don't share it.

07:04:53.340 Seems like a double standard.

07:04:55.560 Well, it's not a double standard, do you?

07:04:57.360 Well, is it?

07:04:59.540 Well, give us, like, above 10?

07:05:01.500 Below 20?

07:05:03.440 Under 50?

07:05:04.900 I don't know, man.

07:05:05.760 I might be a virgin.

07:05:06.680 Who knows?

07:05:08.260 You'll never know.

07:05:09.500 Never know.

07:05:13.420 Why are you looking at me that way?

07:05:14.620 Chill out, bro.

07:05:15.600 Just tell us.

07:05:16.640 Chill out.

07:05:17.160 Just tell us.

07:05:17.660 You straight?

07:05:18.920 Am I straight?

07:05:19.740 You straight, bro?

07:05:20.540 I identify as bisexual, actually.

07:05:22.220 No, I wasn't talking about your sexual.

07:05:23.720 Wait, 45?

07:05:26.780 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

07:05:28.480 For all of you.

07:05:30.160 Everybody at this table, regardless of whether you revealed it or not.

07:05:35.980 Wait, so.

07:05:39.060 Wait, Q, what's yours?

07:05:41.020 You would have to guess.

07:05:43.820 Ooh.

07:05:44.440 Okay, okay, wait.

07:05:45.820 Do you, like, date girls, or do you like more casual stuff?

07:05:49.220 I don't know anything about you.

07:05:50.340 I date.

07:05:50.700 You date girls? 0.95

07:05:52.200 What's your longest relationship you've had?

07:05:54.380 Three years.

07:05:55.120 Three years.

07:05:57.380 How old are you?

07:05:58.720 31.

07:05:59.340 I'm going to put you at 33.

07:06:02.740 Okay.

07:06:03.700 I'm going to guess 15.

07:06:07.380 Under or over?

07:06:09.640 I can't say.

07:06:10.340 You got to guess it.

07:06:11.420 You're not going to tell us, though, so we're just going to throw out numbers.

07:06:14.620 Yeah, I mean, y'all can throw out numbers.

07:06:16.040 I'll tell you if you get it.

07:06:17.040 Really?

07:06:17.240 I'm not going to say.

07:06:17.860 I'll tell you if you get it, yeah.

07:06:18.980 10?

07:06:19.520 Oh.

07:06:20.620 Really?

07:06:21.300 I know, but that's...

07:06:22.180 18.

07:06:25.040 You have to, like, give us, like, warmer or colder.

07:06:27.100 I can't.

07:06:27.900 23.

07:06:29.060 It's two digits.

07:06:30.800 Oh.

07:06:31.500 I think it's in the 20s.

07:06:32.180 I think I knew that already.

07:06:33.020 I think it's 27, 6, 8, so this isn't going well.

07:06:41.500 11.

07:06:42.280 20.

07:06:42.820 I'm giving up.

07:06:43.460 13.

07:06:44.440 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23.

07:06:48.880 On that note, I got to pee.

07:06:51.260 Once Q comes back, I'm going to wrap up the show.

07:06:55.480 I do want to give you credit, though, because I give you credit for, you said 45 is your body count.

07:07:01.240 I give you credit for being open and honest and forthcoming about that.

07:07:06.780 Do you regret having a high body count?

07:07:09.200 No.

07:07:09.520 You don't regret it?

07:07:10.480 I don't think it changes anything.

07:07:12.020 You don't think it changes anything?

07:07:14.700 Not sure about that one, but...

07:07:16.400 Would you be upset?

07:07:22.000 You meet your ideal guy.

07:07:25.700 Ideal guy.

07:07:27.520 Perfect.

07:07:27.840 Perfect.

07:07:28.840 And then you tell him your body count.

07:07:33.340 And he's like...

07:07:34.840 Then he's not the perfect guy?

07:07:38.980 Like...

07:07:40.840 If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be.

07:07:46.260 Are you...

07:07:47.260 Are you...

07:07:47.880 Are you wearing color contacts?

07:07:49.420 Just totally ranking?

07:07:50.560 Okay.

07:07:51.260 All right.

07:07:52.380 It's kind of sad.

07:07:53.900 It's kind of sad.

07:07:57.380 So, are you seeing anyone?

07:07:59.240 What?

07:08:00.180 You.

07:08:00.720 Hey, what's sad?

07:08:02.040 What's sad?

07:08:03.340 It's kind of sad.

07:08:04.340 What's sad?

07:08:04.920 The contacts?

07:08:05.820 Yeah, I'll do it in a sec.

07:08:06.680 Huh?

07:08:07.260 What's sad?

07:08:08.460 Oh, the whole, like...

07:08:11.060 45 body count thing.

07:08:13.660 Brian.

07:08:14.600 What?

07:08:20.560 At least she was honest enough to say...

07:08:22.640 I mean...

07:08:23.960 Like, I salute you for your honesty, but you're sad.

07:08:27.480 No, not sad in, like, the insulting way, like...

07:08:31.120 You're just disappointed.

07:08:31.700 Bro, that's...

07:08:32.800 That's sad.

07:08:34.100 It's more like a...

07:08:36.800 Like, that's...

07:08:38.100 Actually sad.

07:08:39.400 She has a boyfriend.

07:08:40.500 Is that worse?

07:08:41.640 Is that worse?

07:08:42.460 She has a boyfriend.

07:08:43.260 So much worse.

07:08:44.860 Because, like, you're an attractive girl, you know?

07:08:47.540 Thank you.

07:08:48.180 And you...

07:08:48.620 You seem like...

07:08:51.040 I wouldn't have guessed 45.

07:08:54.640 That's why, gentlemen, you gotta be careful.

07:08:56.500 Even the shy ones.

07:08:58.200 Under 50?

07:08:59.280 Hmm?

07:08:59.720 Under 50?

07:09:00.540 For what?

07:09:01.320 She says she's under 50.

07:09:02.920 Oh, you.

07:09:03.300 Under 50?

07:09:03.980 Wait, me?

07:09:04.460 Are you talking about me or you?

07:09:05.560 Me.

07:09:06.280 You're under 50?

07:09:07.480 Mm-hmm.

07:09:07.840 So is that, like, the...

07:09:09.120 Is that the silver lining?

07:09:10.500 She's keeping it under 50.

07:09:12.120 Well, she's... 0.99

07:09:12.220 She's 45, but it's under 50, so...

07:09:14.800 She's keeping it real.

07:09:15.700 Actually, to be honest, it's 47, to be exact.

07:09:19.600 But let's be really honest.

07:09:20.780 It's, like, 49, right?

07:09:22.100 Ha-ha.

07:09:23.440 Yes.

07:09:24.520 Ha-ha.

07:09:25.860 Right?

07:09:27.240 Mm-hmm.

07:09:28.460 So...

07:09:30.100 Is it over 50, for reals, though?

07:09:39.200 No.

07:09:39.540 Ha-ha-ha-ha.

07:09:42.520 Ha-ha-ha.

07:09:43.600 Okay.

07:09:45.240 Um...

07:09:45.880 You know.

07:09:51.060 Stop it.

07:09:52.260 Get some help.

07:09:53.140 Oh, okay.

07:09:59.100 All right, guys.

07:09:59.700 I need...

07:10:00.260 I'm gonna do one last thing, and then we're gonna wrap up the show.

07:10:02.120 Okay, guys.

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07:10:34.620 Okay, last thing.

07:10:35.560 I want the table to weigh in.

07:10:36.720 I want the chat to weigh in. 0.99

07:10:38.100 You see this fucking table here, guys? 0.98

07:10:40.440 Don't pull it up quite yet, Nick. 0.99

07:10:42.140 I want to get a new table, okay?

07:10:44.540 And I'm gonna ask the chat, and I'm gonna have the panel here. 0.98

07:10:47.020 We got some interior fucking decorators at this table. 0.99

07:10:49.860 I'm sure you guys are great and got great interior decorating skills and shit. 1.00

07:10:57.880 Oh, sorry. 0.96

07:10:58.460 I wasn't gesturing.

07:10:59.500 No, no.

07:10:59.720 It's okay.

07:11:00.400 So, okay, guys.

07:11:02.140 Here, wait.

07:11:02.500 Come back real quick.

07:11:04.660 Here's the problem with the table.

07:11:05.780 It's a little small.

07:11:06.960 I'd like to be able to fit a little...

07:11:09.140 Also, the legs...

07:11:11.020 I don't know.

07:11:11.400 You can't really see it, but there's...

07:11:13.220 The legs are on the corners,

07:11:14.780 which means instead of...

07:11:18.320 So, think of it...

07:11:18.900 If there's a centralized base,

07:11:20.820 people's legs are banging into the corners.

07:11:23.420 It creates logistical issues with the seating.

07:11:26.160 So, we're gonna look at two tables,

07:11:29.520 and we...

07:11:31.040 Do you like the white mat?

07:11:33.040 Do you like the white mat?

07:11:34.200 Or are we gonna do a stone,

07:11:36.600 like a Calcutta,

07:11:38.080 or a black stone?

07:11:42.100 Pull it up, Nick.

07:11:43.100 Let's pull it up.

07:11:44.140 Okay, now keep...

07:11:45.100 This is...

07:11:46.340 Ignore the tabletop color, the wood.

07:11:49.440 Just ignore that.

07:11:50.340 This is just the actual design of the table.

07:11:51.920 So, this is one

07:11:52.640 with a kind of slim, centralized base,

07:11:55.700 and then the next one.

07:11:57.460 Ignore the color.

07:11:58.360 Ignore the color.

07:11:58.980 That's not relevant.

07:12:00.380 And then that has like a big, thick base.

07:12:02.400 Now, chat.

07:12:03.040 Here's where I'm concerned.

07:12:04.260 There's one and two.

07:12:05.120 The first one was the wood one.

07:12:06.200 The second...

07:12:06.840 Now, don't...

07:12:07.740 You're not factoring in color yet.

07:12:09.400 We're gonna get to that.

07:12:11.520 I'm concerned that that first one...

07:12:13.480 Nick, can you go back to it?

07:12:16.020 It might be wobbly.

07:12:17.800 I don't know if that's a...

07:12:18.760 If that's a...

07:12:19.860 What's it called?

07:12:21.480 If it's gonna...

07:12:22.700 It might be a little unbalanced

07:12:24.440 because...

07:12:24.860 Sturdy.

07:12:25.420 I don't know if that's a sturdy enough base.

07:12:27.680 Okay.

07:12:29.400 Now, if you can scroll down, Nick,

07:12:32.720 to the options.

07:12:34.460 Disregard the color.

07:12:35.220 Don't worry.

07:12:35.500 It's not gonna be wood.

07:12:38.100 Scroll down to the...

07:12:39.340 Yeah.

07:12:39.740 So, you're gonna have to make it max size.

07:12:43.980 Scroll down.

07:12:45.340 Okay.

07:12:48.340 So, we have Calcutta stone.

07:12:52.220 Then, next one.

07:12:54.200 We have black stone.

07:12:56.180 Next one.

07:12:56.900 We have industrial concrete.

07:12:58.740 And next one.

07:12:59.440 We have metropolitan concrete.

07:13:02.640 Versus...

07:13:03.280 They also have...

07:13:05.280 We don't have to show it.

07:13:06.320 But they have a white mat option like this.

07:13:08.360 So, it's gonna...

07:13:09.120 So, what do you guys think?

07:13:10.840 We have...

07:13:11.280 We have...

07:13:12.160 I kind of like the white.

07:13:14.740 I like the white.

07:13:17.540 Help me out here, gentlemen.

07:13:19.380 I feel like I should have done a poll. 1.00

07:13:20.840 Fuck. 1.00

07:13:21.640 Whatever. 1.00

07:13:22.900 Black stone?

07:13:23.680 I don't know.

07:13:24.840 I kind of think white looks better.

07:13:27.560 Was that racist?

07:13:29.080 Guys, just...

07:13:29.840 I was talking about tabletops.

07:13:31.620 Relax.

07:13:32.080 Okay.

07:13:38.940 Why am I slow, bro?

07:13:40.800 Well, why would I be slow for that?

07:13:43.620 Go with one of the concrete options.

07:13:45.320 I think the Calcutta looks very nice.

07:13:47.560 But I kind of like the sleekness of the white.

07:13:51.540 I feel like the other one would give it a different vibe.

07:13:54.560 Yeah.

07:13:57.540 White is iconic.

07:13:58.900 I like the white.

07:13:59.400 I think white.

07:13:59.920 I think you just need white with your branding and everything.

07:14:03.760 I think I got to keep it...

07:14:05.300 So, for me, my two choices are between matte white.

07:14:11.320 So, like this versus the Calcutta.

07:14:13.260 No, matte white.

07:14:15.180 The Calcutta with like all of this in the background, like this works.

07:14:19.420 But with that, it's going to get more busy.

07:14:21.260 It's too busy.

07:14:22.080 I think it's too busy.

07:14:22.740 Too busy.

07:14:23.380 For branding purposes, I don't think it's good.

07:14:25.660 As good.

07:14:26.400 As my personal interior decorator.

07:14:29.020 Thank you.

07:14:29.400 Any thoughts from the other ladies? 0.84

07:14:31.480 I agree with you.

07:14:32.040 I agree with you.

07:14:32.640 Yeah.

07:14:32.880 I agree with the white. 0.98

07:14:34.320 There's no dissenting opinions.

07:14:35.820 Are you just going to sheep Maddie's opinion here?

07:14:38.920 Okay.

07:14:39.600 All right.

07:14:39.680 Thank you guys for your in-depth recommendation.

07:14:49.220 All right, guys.

07:14:49.680 We're going to wrap up the show. 0.99

07:14:50.720 Thank you for the help guys there with the fucking table. 0.98

07:14:59.140 Maybe we'll get it in a month. 0.99

07:15:01.060 Okay.

07:15:01.200 So, last thing.

07:15:02.920 Oh, I need a raid on Twitch.

07:15:05.940 Hold on.

07:15:06.320 Who am I going to raid?

07:15:07.920 I'm going to raid.

07:15:09.580 Let's see.

07:15:10.120 Sorry.

07:15:10.400 One sec, guys.

07:15:11.240 We are going to raid.

07:15:12.840 Oh, my God.

07:15:13.340 Stop.

07:15:14.040 Those of you who are on Twitch, you guys are going to go to raid following.

07:15:21.340 Let's see.

07:15:21.660 Who am I following?

07:15:22.040 Okay, never mind.

07:15:26.700 Nobody who I'm following is online.

07:15:29.120 All right, guys.

07:15:30.460 Any final thoughts?

07:15:31.040 Oh, wait.

07:15:31.720 Any final thoughts before I wrap from anybody?

07:15:40.740 I'm looking at you.

07:15:41.760 I know you got something.

07:15:43.120 She got a story. 1.00

07:15:44.680 You're sitting on a fucking gold mine of crazy shit, and it's there. 1.00

07:15:53.040 It's there. 1.00

07:15:54.040 Okay.

07:15:54.480 All right.

07:15:55.260 All right.

07:15:55.700 Next time, maybe.

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Whatever Podcast - February 28, 2024

CONFRONTING Viral Gym E-girl! 50 Body Count At 21？! Makeup DEBATE! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ｜ Dating Talk #139

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