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00:05:24.160 of the whatever channel without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so

00:05:27.980 please tell us your uh tell us your name age occupation where you're from education go ahead hi i'm

00:05:36.160 jimma hex with a j i'm from las vegas and i am a model slash adult actress age oh i'm 27 27 all right

00:05:46.200 any education college um i went to school for abnormal psychology and criminal justice as well

00:05:51.960 as film and photography did you get like an associate's degree bachelor's degree i got many

00:05:56.440 credits but you didn't complete it i didn't complete i i did many years but unfortunately didn't get the

00:06:02.880 degree and you said abnormal psychology tell me like do you recall anything you learned well i i

00:06:10.040 continue studying every day um i actually watch this show a lot to learn about to learn about

00:06:15.880 of our guests about how people think and and how they would like to discuss it with other people

00:06:21.520 it's very interesting to me okay yeah and i noticed you have vampire teeth i do yeah so are those

00:06:26.680 things they're uh surgically added or how is that what are they called basically if you like think

00:06:32.780 of the stuff they fill your cavities with they build that up onto the tooth and then they create

00:06:37.980 the shape that works best for your bite i have an overbite i get asked all the time if i bite myself do

00:06:42.860 a big smile into the camera right here so they can see the vampire teeth do you have any other body

00:06:48.020 mods or is that uh i have a split tongue whoa yeah um other than that i'm you have about a lot of

00:06:56.200 tattoos like 60 tattoos on me i'm working on a full body blackout right now okay all right rock and roll

00:07:02.900 and uh you said you do uh of and i do of i have many vids as well um so you have what uh many vids

00:07:10.380 many oh okay it's like a different it's a newer site i i tend to like it a lot more because it's

00:07:16.020 more new age than only fans is the setup and the the way the website is made okay like i'd say only

00:07:24.280 fans is like analog facebook and many vids is like tiktok twitter you know like it's it's new it's fast

00:07:32.640 people want to see it and you do uh you do like traditional adult content too um i mean obviously i'm

00:07:40.300 in the alt sector um i do a lot of like split tongue content i do a lot of doming like dominatrix

00:07:47.680 work but my main money comes from doing like girlfriend experience or uh i don't want to call

00:07:55.880 it like mommy work but it's basically just being like very caring and and like making sure somebody

00:08:01.660 knows that they can get through that stressful time with you type thing that they have somebody

00:08:05.900 behind them all right it's i like to care okay have you done any other kind of like sex work um

00:08:13.760 yeah i'm an escort as well but i i don't do it on a mainstream scale i i've had the same couple people

00:08:20.420 for a very long time and we've become very good friends very close any dancing stripping anything

00:08:25.520 like that i would like to soon um after my tattoos are done within this next month i'll be

00:08:31.400 starting to dance in vegas okay put myself out there gotcha okay what about you

00:08:37.740 i'm lindsey lee i'm 29 i'm from arizona and i have done some college but i was uh working corporate

00:08:48.660 and doing adult entertainment so i'm an adult film star right now full time all right kat thank you for

00:08:56.240 the gifted 50 memberships thank you uh nick is the audio maxed okay kat big thank you for the gifted

00:09:03.240 50 memberships guys w's in the chat for kat very generous of you thank you thank you and sorry did

00:09:08.960 you say you did any uh college or university or anything yeah i did but i couldn't afford school

00:09:14.900 and work so i just had to keep working all right cool cool welcome back what about you um my name is

00:09:22.400 mckenna i go by kenna b with content work um i'm 29 i'm from portland oregon but i live in tempe arizona

00:09:29.560 now um i'm a veterinary technician a licensed esthetician and um i do only fans as well as

00:09:36.880 many vids i don't know adult content um yeah full time all the time you're allowed to do that and have

00:09:44.140 a full-time job yeah do they know um the practice that i worked for for the last nine and a half years

00:09:49.840 my entire team knew what i did as far as only fans um the corporation i work for now doesn't

00:09:54.780 technically know what i do as far as like the corporate head higher ups because we're

00:09:58.720 i'm just gonna say we're owned by mars um like the people that own the candy bars um the corporation

00:10:04.340 that i work for now but like all my in-house management co-workers other technicians doctors

00:10:11.120 all of them know what i do do you think they watch your stuff um not really it's mainly straight

00:10:16.020 women that i work with um i've had like one gentleman that i worked with oh weird um yeah

00:10:21.400 vet clinics like the men tend to be a veterinarian but the rest of the staff is mainly women um

00:10:27.100 so i had like one like client like that brings you know an owner that brought their pets to us at the

00:10:33.160 general practice i worked to back in oregon that followed me but he like never made it a thing to

00:10:37.920 like stay anything in the clinic he wouldn't try to like get me in trouble not that they could

00:10:42.280 my entire staff knew they didn't care and you work with pets who said i'm a veterinary technician

00:10:46.940 i've been a veterinary technician nine going on 10 years nice yep all right all right uh what about

00:10:53.060 you jade warwick the warwick report i'm 27 from wales um yes i went to cardiff university business

00:11:00.760 um i'm a political and social commentary person now it's kind of all i do all right uh education

00:11:09.900 yeah cardiff uni oh what did what was your degree in business and leadership we got a smart woman at

00:11:15.740 the table look at you go what about you um my name is big booty tay with four y's as of now

00:11:24.200 i've been full only fan like your legal name big booty is your middle name or that's my last name

00:11:32.180 um as of now it's your last name yes as of now i am full-blown only fans camming and hopefully

00:11:40.560 stripping any college university um a beauty school dropout so no beauty school dropout wait is it uh

00:11:48.340 did you notice that glitch yeah that's what i was just investigating when it goes let me see if i can

00:11:55.580 hold on i'm gonna see if i can reproduce it i know the fix to it it's really weird i don't let me see so

00:12:01.260 usually it's three cam no sorry guys i'm trying to reproduce obs is glitching out when going right cam

00:12:13.260 uh here in three cam nick what we're gonna do uh do you see gh5r in sources in sources okay no no the top

00:12:24.980 one that's at the very top uh hit the yep hit that okay that's gonna be our temporary fix for that

00:12:33.120 all right that should probably fix it anyways um sorry uh university you said no university no

00:12:41.320 all right uh what about you crystal here nice to meet everyone um from oakland california i am 28 but

00:12:49.800 i'll be 29 on wednesday and i currently work for the state i have my associates in political science

00:12:56.800 i have my bachelor's in political science and i'm currently a full-time graduate student at usc for

00:13:01.560 my master's in public administration you said you work for the state yes sir what do you do i do policy

00:13:08.260 work what does that mean um i help my senator write policy for the state of california oh okay is there

00:13:18.580 anything in particular you're working on right now um yeah we have a full bill package um a bill that

00:13:25.340 i worked on that's been signed by the governor sb67 it's called od maps are you uh you who you work

00:13:32.880 for is he a republican democrat he's a republican republican okay are there many republicans in the

00:13:40.540 what is it the state state of california what is it the state senate or yeah there's not many at

00:13:46.460 all this is a super majority state obviously okay oh well i'm curious is there uh like let's say i

00:13:55.320 wanted to change the law in california how do i go about that what would what would the process be

00:14:03.340 as individual it's pretty hard depending on what side you could you could appeal to somebody who

00:14:09.440 is a legislator right and then they could possibly try to propose a bill right the bigger your coalition

00:14:16.460 depending on the subject the more tact you'll have as far as getting things across the finish line

00:14:23.400 okay uh let's say child support reform in the state of california what if you wanted to uh put caps

00:14:33.340 on it what would be the procedure in the process for uh capping child support well you need to get a

00:14:41.000 like a group of stakeholders obviously together and then you would lobby a certain senator depending

00:14:46.480 on redistrict or what you think a senator's area of expertise would be in and then you would follow

00:14:52.940 the process along that that route but it's like grassroots is really where it's at when you're

00:14:57.560 talking about making change on an individual level gotcha would that be like a petition type thing

00:15:02.420 like if you wanted something changed or you wanted to bring up something you'd get a petition

00:15:06.300 with a bunch of signatures and then bring it to them right i mean that's the process when you want

00:15:10.180 to put something on the ballot uh but a bill i guess it would be more directly through an actual

00:15:14.960 legislate legislature like the actual senator or assembly member so you could bring like a petition

00:15:20.460 to your state representative and they could bring it to somebody like you well my senator yeah

00:15:25.040 interesting but uh it's like really like chain of command there's a lot of steps when it comes to

00:15:30.760 like changing the law okay thank you okay all right wait hold on i got my not my everything mixed up

00:15:37.360 here uh age did you say your age oh 28 okay 28 all right what about you my name is kate and i'm 37

00:15:47.280 from seattle and i wash boats and yachts for work and i you have you have a rough night yesterday

00:15:55.520 no my voice is like this the adderall drives my vocal cords out oh okay all right so it makes it

00:16:03.020 it wasn't like this before i was taking the adderall it makes me pretty mad okay we're you were on the

00:16:09.280 show a couple months ago yes did you take adderall before i don't recall your voice being uh it's been

00:16:16.000 changing it's changed like the last couple of months but it was still pretty raspy the last time i was on

00:16:22.120 okay um it's getting slightly less raspy now but it's causing this weird in between of like

00:16:29.300 it still makes my voice raspy but my vocal cords aren't as dry okay gotcha all right uh

00:16:36.360 people like that

00:16:37.860 it's off center brian sorry to interrupt for your request reporting an issue the center full table

00:16:47.760 camera is off centered you're talking about this one right full table uh you know what it

00:16:54.820 it might just be an optical illusion it's a little it's a teeny bit so what i'm doing is right now i'm

00:17:01.920 looking at the top corners uh so if you're looking at the bottom corners you'll be like whoa there's a

00:17:07.860 big empty space behind her but i'm almost cut off but if you're looking at the top corners it is a

00:17:14.780 little bit pushed in that direction but it's not too bad i'll i'll adjust it in a bit thank you

00:17:20.840 thank you for the looking out though i do appreciate it uh i will uh look into that uh

00:17:25.980 any college or university or anything um i went to cosmetology school for a while but i didn't

00:17:31.380 enjoy it so i didn't finish okay what happened to the nose ring didn't you have a nose ring or

00:17:36.020 something septum several piercings i took out they're all gone now after your last appearance

00:17:40.260 uh yo natalia thanks for the gifted 50 memberships guys w's in the chat for natalia thank you so much

00:17:46.040 that's very kind of you thank you thank you all right uh chloe what about you ah you guys already

00:17:52.220 know who i am my name is chloe roma i'm an international men's rights advocate first person

00:17:56.920 on social media to ever do it down here all the way from canada i'm 28 years old and post-secondary

00:18:03.760 education i'm university educated for funeral services and embalming and i have an undergrad

00:18:09.260 in disabilities with a specialization in fetal alcohol spectrum disorder and i'm going back to

00:18:15.560 school for forensic psychology and criminal profiling wow all right let's go thank you and you said you got

00:18:23.500 a degree in like embalming or funeral services funeral services from mount royal university

00:18:29.480 in canada yes sir and did you ever actually work in the funeral industry or uh no because i'm covered

00:18:36.240 in tattoos and they waited till the second last day to talk about attire before the exams and my

00:18:41.360 professor pretty much looked at me and was like yeah it's a very competitive field and you're the

00:18:45.600 last person to get picked took all my money waited till the last day but it's fine because i do this

00:18:50.600 instead right so you never actually ended up embalming no well i did yeah during the school

00:18:57.380 yeah for sure in terms of employment professionally no oh you can do my funeral okay

00:19:02.120 wait so uh like the you were not granted like a diploma or no i have it i just didn't go into the

00:19:13.520 field instead i left and i went into addictions and disabilities but they wouldn't let you do it

00:19:19.020 because of your tattoos i could have but the professor we were talking about attire the very

00:19:23.480 last day and the professor was like just you know this is a very competitive field you're dealing with

00:19:28.680 people from many different religions you know some are like the last people to evolve because they're so

00:19:34.100 old so you know you're trusting somebody to be the last person to ever touch your loved ones and a lot

00:19:40.500 of people would not trust someone looking like me so i would only trust someone looking like you

00:19:46.840 well i mean they got a turtleneck you could have worn a turtleneck right yeah i don't know well the

00:19:51.520 hands i'd have to oh the hands yeah but don't you wear gloves when you're actually embalming

00:19:55.880 some funeral services and embalming you're not just embalming you could go from embalming

00:19:59.640 somebody to having to clean up and actually go and plan the funeral with the family so it's very

00:20:04.420 one-to-one and yeah yeah have you seen six feet under no you haven't seen six feet under no that's

00:20:10.360 a good it was a old very old well old show on hbo i think like the early mid 2000s it focused on a

00:20:19.020 family that lived in a funeral home uh kind of adams family no they ran no it was like okay and

00:20:25.900 basically every episode somebody dies and uh wow long form drama show in the same vein of like the

00:20:32.340 sopranos it was it came out right around the same time as the sopranos so premium hbo production

00:20:39.240 i'll look into it no no it was a fiction it was a binge watch it fiction show that's fun yeah they

00:20:45.600 ran the funeral home and the dad passed away or something wait don't fucking spoil

00:20:49.620 don't spoil yeah don't spoil even the you know great now i know it wasn't it's all over first

00:21:01.840 episode of a six season show i don't think i ruined it it came out 20 plus years ago so i guess there's

00:21:07.120 a guy from dexter on there yes yes okay oh yeah yeah yeah uh what's his name the guy who played

00:21:12.400 dexter michael c hall michael c hall he's so hot he's pretty good yeah so i don't know if you're

00:21:17.000 funeral home stuff but recommend the show uh would you let me embalm you brian uh i plan i'm gonna i'm

00:21:24.440 gonna cremation yes i'll just yeah i'll say yes all right i'm gonna remember that it's a legally

00:21:31.800 binding contract all right we're gonna go around the table once more what's everybody's relationship

00:21:37.500 status so are you single uh relationship married whatever how long have you been single if you're

00:21:43.000 single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you um i am currently

00:21:48.640 engaged congratulations i thank you so much um me and my partner are both in the film and photography

00:21:56.380 and adult industry scene um we we discussed i'm not allowed to talk a lot about him but he has a big

00:22:03.360 boy job so he's mainly focusing on that but our goals are to create like a production company

00:22:08.760 in las vegas together in which we can bring people to a safe environment in order to uh to work so

00:22:15.920 those that's our goals together um but my longest relationship was probably about six years

00:22:21.660 and that was a it was pretty toxic um until i got into this relationship i feel i was in this like

00:22:29.400 cycle of going through the same types of men and the same types of relationships that just left me

00:22:35.660 downtrodden and and in a bad place and i'm very lucky to have the person i have now how long have

00:22:42.740 you guys been together we've been together for a year now what's the longest relationship you've

00:22:48.360 ever been in uh the one i just spoke of is like six years oh six years um that was back in charleston

00:22:53.760 south carolina where i'm from i am from the south who broke up with who for the six-year one um it's

00:23:01.000 it's one of those situations where we we just realized like it wasn't going to work between us

00:23:05.660 we had broken up we spent a couple months apart tried again and it was great for a month and then

00:23:13.000 after that we realized that neither of us had grown in the ways that we thought that we had

00:23:17.160 and so we split up and i literally moved across the country and came to las vegas to start my life

00:23:23.580 that was about four years ago okay cool cool what about you i am happily single and my longest

00:23:33.220 relationship was probably about five years my high school sweetheart and um technically like his mom

00:23:40.180 broke it off by telling me because he just blocked me on everything so yeah how long you've been single

00:23:45.720 for oh god i don't know i don't know if i count my last one even maybe maybe two years then

00:23:54.780 okay what about you um i've been single since i think 2022 now so we're pushing three years yeah

00:24:06.120 we're almost at three years um my longest relationship that i was ever in was five and a half years long

00:24:11.960 from the time i was 15 to almost 21 it was like my high school sweetheart relationship as well

00:24:16.680 it was very toxic and messed up and i don't know it was emotionally toxic what did you do that was

00:24:22.920 toxic i didn't actually do anything um he assumed it was her yeah he he was also three years older than

00:24:29.060 me um but he just cheated on me pretty much the whole time and it was like my first love i was madly in

00:24:34.700 love with him and so i accepted everything that you should not accept being in a relationship as a

00:24:40.060 young woman and yeah it kind of wrecked my whole view on love and everything moving forward and

00:24:46.260 then i was single for a year and a half and then i got into a relationship with somebody else who was

00:24:52.120 very toxic and overbearing and like tried to kidnap me and not let me leave his apartment when i tried

00:24:57.860 to break up with him um and i have been single since then and that's why i've been single for three

00:25:02.780 years good times and then you said uh so that was the one that ended three years ago um yeah how long

00:25:09.440 was that one um it was like almost a year okay yeah it was like right on the 12 month mark and

00:25:14.920 then i found out that he'd had another girlfriend for 10 months of the 12 months we were together

00:25:19.040 gotcha what about you oh my god um in a relationship we talked about it last time and then my longest

00:25:24.180 relationship was four years all right in seattle actually you're from what about you um it'll be

00:25:31.640 four years single last relationship was four and a half years i want to say it was my longest one

00:25:39.160 and that was also your last relationship four and a half okay it ended four years ago uh you've been

00:25:45.020 single for four years have there been any like you know a couple months friends with benefits

00:25:49.900 i guess situations but you don't really count i don't really count them because we're not really

00:25:54.140 getting to know each other what is the situation what do you classify that as just like just like

00:25:59.500 pretend like pretend boyfriend and girlfriend with benefits yeah yeah i would have to say that okay

00:26:04.820 it's like a boyfriend experience but not being monogamous or actually in a relationship talk every

00:26:11.440 like what month two months yeah all right each other and never talk again what about you i'm newly

00:26:17.740 single coming up on three months that relationship lasted for about three years i keep maxing out at

00:26:24.360 three years because my ex before him was also three years so you've had you're doing okay like two

00:26:28.980 right i'm here two or three say it again you've had two or three uh i've had like three serious

00:26:36.500 relationships and all of them have kind of maxed out at three years okay uh the most recent one who

00:26:41.820 broke up with who i broke up with them the previous one who broke up with who me also the previous one

00:26:47.640 who broke up with who me also okay uh any reoccurring reasons different reasons uh the first breakup

00:26:55.980 never takes so i have a way of coming back around but at the end of the day it never works out because

00:27:00.740 we have different we're just in different places usually that's what i've come to find

00:27:04.940 okay all right what about you i am single i've been single for i don't know about a year and a half or so

00:27:13.860 um i was kind of seeing a guy a little bit but we weren't really official um

00:27:19.740 and longest relationship my longest relationship was nine years and were you married yes just one

00:27:28.700 time yes all right no kids right no okay married nine years who initiated the divorce he did okay uh

00:27:36.620 any alimony in any direction um he said he pays me a little bit but not much when did the

00:27:44.060 when did that end the marriage relationship we split up about nine years ago and then the divorce

00:27:54.720 was final a few years ago i can't remember the exact date wait you've been separated for nine years

00:28:00.520 no we split up at that time but the divorce wasn't final for a few years but you guys were broken up

00:28:07.300 nine years ago yes that was my longest relationship okay so you dated him maybe what from like 20

00:28:14.040 to 29 yes about that yeah okay and then but it took time for you guys to actually get divorced

00:28:20.320 yeah and he's is he still paying you alimony a little bit uh wait and sorry you initiated it he

00:28:28.280 initiated he initiated the divorce okay um and during that time you guys were separated was he

00:28:37.000 providing you support financially um a small amount okay when we're separated because of wait how long

00:28:45.100 were you guys married uh nine years oh you were together nine years and married nine years we were

00:28:51.420 together just over nine years we got married very quickly we're both like how how quick into

00:28:56.760 meeting did you guys three months oh three months okay got married uh what is the um is the

00:29:05.620 alimony going to expire or is that in perpetuity um it's he has to pay me a little bit for a while

00:29:12.900 because of the length of time that we were together what state were you married in washington state

00:29:18.680 washington state wait what hold on a second because i don't know if we have this in canada if you guys

00:29:23.200 break up one person i assume it's whoever makes more money correct it has it always the man it has to

00:29:30.100 do with how long you're married how long you're together but who's the one most commonly playing

00:29:34.900 like who has to pay is the one who makes the most money or the dude it's usually the one who makes

00:29:38.820 the most money so here say you and i are married for nine years say you're awful and you like i'm not

00:29:45.580 saying you are but say you like beat me every day screwed my brother my dad and my grandpa and now we

00:29:52.380 have to break up and i gotta pay you money just because we broke up because if you're married yes but

00:29:57.740 that has to do with whether or not it's a no-fault state if what the hell does that mean a no-fault

00:30:02.900 state means that there is if you're not in a no-fault state somebody can come and say like if a guy is

00:30:10.260 divorcing a woman because she cheated on him yeah he can say she cheated on me she ruined our marriage

00:30:15.080 she's at fault i shouldn't have to pay her okay when you are in a no-fault state they don't look at

00:30:20.820 any of that stuff it doesn't matter who did what in your relationship the person who was making the

00:30:26.700 majority of the money still usually needs to provide and was that the case with you it was

00:30:31.140 no-fault yeah it's a no-fault state that sounds crazy so how how do you protect against like cases

00:30:36.760 of like abuse or something because oftentimes you can't not saying you were abusive i'm not

00:30:40.480 suggesting you in any way but people in those situations i just don't understand because a lot

00:30:46.100 of times you can't prove abuse that's part of why a lot of people want to get rid of no-fault

00:30:49.660 okay because correct thank you for explaining that i appreciate that because nothing against

00:30:55.400 you personally i'm just you know i'm not from here i agree with you that it's not fair most of

00:31:00.340 the time what they do when it's like hey a guy has to pay half of his money to a woman yeah

00:31:05.980 um so yeah i mean i have a few more questions on this so uh when was the divorce finalized i don't

00:31:13.420 remember the exact time it was a few years after we separated okay so was it before or after

00:31:19.560 covid before before covid yes okay and do you know the length of time he has to pay you alimony

00:31:27.000 i'm not entirely sure it's partly because of his job and i don't really want to get into that a

00:31:32.860 whole lot it has to do with the length of time that we were legally married uh so you when you say

00:31:38.200 it has to do with his job so he he was or is a high earner um no not necessarily i don't want to get

00:31:45.240 into what he does for work because this is not about him and his information doesn't need to be

00:31:51.780 out there oh we don't need to know like where he works or a specific thing do you are you able to

00:31:56.540 share like the field that he's in is he like finance or i can't really share it without giving

00:32:01.740 it away that's fine um it's like a famous and it has to do with um us being because we were legally

00:32:08.780 married for more than 10 years that makes a difference with it how are you legally married

00:32:14.260 from because we split up we were together for nine years and then the divorce took a while right so

00:32:21.040 you uh you each had lawyers no oh okay so neither of you had lawyers no prenup situation paperwork

00:32:28.980 yeah did you guys have a prenuptial agreement no there's okay you know we don't argue over

00:32:36.880 anything there's not really like a ton of hard feelings over it it's just you know we sign the

00:32:42.020 paperwork and yeah i guess what i'm getting at is you guys didn't have kids uh what during the course

00:32:49.120 of the relationship was he financially taking care of everything mostly yes okay did you not

00:32:58.680 pursue certain job opportunities because you're with him uh yeah like were you working while you

00:33:05.360 were with him his job moved us around okay and then prior to meeting him uh like what were you doing

00:33:11.540 for work i was 19 okay i didn't really work a whole lot and was were you guys about the same age or

00:33:19.020 was he a bit older three and a half years older three and a half years older okay um

00:33:23.780 and was the divorce contentious not really okay uh if you wanted to could you go to the court and

00:33:35.340 say you know what i don't want alimony could you do that yeah probably and is there any reason you don't

00:33:42.460 like is he is he just like would he voluntarily just pay you the money if there was no uh

00:33:49.780 legal court whatever i'm not entirely sure it's honestly it's hard to answer it because it all has

00:33:58.780 to do with stuff with his job that i can't really get into

00:34:03.280 oh okay let's see what the cia

00:34:07.840 it's just couldn't tell us like do you think like but i guess my question is what i'm getting at here

00:34:15.920 y'all have been separated for nine years why and you don't have kids when's the last time you

00:34:24.860 okay well i'll just say when's the last time you had sex with him why would i have sex with him when

00:34:29.680 we're not together yeah exactly why should he give you money if you're not together it's fucking crazy

00:34:33.540 in any case look there's perhaps some instances where i think alimony could be argued as justified

00:34:38.720 but you're both single uh you've been separated for nine nine years why is this guy paying you

00:34:48.120 fucking money he's also not paying me a lot of money and a big part of it has to do with the

00:34:52.740 fact that i moved around for his career and was not able to establish one of my own

00:34:56.760 so for many years after we split up i was in a pretty tough situation trying to get my life sorted

00:35:02.680 out so that i could afford to take care of myself more and over those years he has paid me less and

00:35:08.560 less well for the period of time that you guys were together what he was paying all the rent yes

00:35:14.720 okay was he paying for food yes he was paying your expenses did he give you like a allowance or

00:35:21.320 something no no allowance okay so like if you needed to buy something for you how would you i would

00:35:27.600 ask him oh so okay you didn't get an allowance but anything you needed he would pay for it

00:35:32.900 no not if i needed it yes i didn't go out and just go on shopping sprees with his money if i was

00:35:39.520 spending anything more than fifty dollars it was hey can i get this and if he said no it was okay i

00:35:46.320 won't go i want to ask the chat chat do you think that uh given the fact they don't have kids

00:35:54.360 uh they were married for uh technically over 10 years but they were together for nine years

00:36:02.760 separated but he delayed his divorce start of the divorce you think this guy should be paying her

00:36:09.180 nine years it's been a nearly a decade since they've had sex i'm sorry i don't know like what

00:36:17.660 about what if the courts were like you know what what about sexual alimony oh why is it that man

00:36:24.780 wait hold on hold on wait look i'm not i'm not advocating for this i don't i'm not i'm not saying

00:36:32.000 that prescriptively that this should be the case but you guys would be like that's ridiculous why

00:36:36.580 like why should the woman have to continue having sex with the man after they've broken up why should

00:36:43.080 the man then have to continue paying the woman after they've broken up okay i hear what you're

00:36:48.140 saying i think the better question is is he happy to pay this money number one like is does he have

00:36:54.240 an issue number two if it's not a lot of money what's the reason you continue to take it i am

00:37:01.380 still in a position where i'm getting to the point where i'm not gonna need it anymore you're almost

00:37:05.960 there yeah okay okay but kind of like with a car agreement you can't just be like oh i got a red car

00:37:11.480 and i signed this lease now i want a blue one and then you know they should just uh disregard the

00:37:17.200 agreement like marriage is a legal legal binding between men and women so i mean also we don't know

00:37:26.800 what they went through like maybe she has some like emotional distress or something like that

00:37:30.640 emotional distress yeah i mean men are like a lot to handle especially if we don't know the

00:37:34.720 in and outs of somebody's relationship wait hold on he divorced her yeah i don't think that

00:37:40.440 caused emotional trauma like you know i want a blue bmw wait so yeah she's moved her whole life

00:37:45.400 are you alleging that there was emotional trauma i moved my entire life that's not emotional trauma

00:37:51.380 that's emotional stress moving is a lot moving is a lot of work hold on hold on y'all are crazy

00:37:57.140 well moving in my my perspective when she's saying well my my life you know i was moving around

00:38:04.620 what i hear is she lived for free for nine years if i could get with a girl and she took care of

00:38:13.440 fucking everything for nine years i wouldn't be trying to shake her down for money a fucking

00:38:19.360 decade after the last time we even been together maybe you wouldn't some men do some men will take

00:38:24.960 for women like that okay the legal system is literally a fucking shakedown it's wealth transfer

00:38:31.420 from men to women yeah that's the legal system okay my my other question is if the positions

00:38:37.440 were reversed obviously you're the only one that knows the full in and outs of your relationship i'm

00:38:42.120 not here to judge you i'm not here to judge anybody well i kind of you can judge but i'm not

00:38:46.080 judge chloe my question is you're like do it do it um if the positions were exactly reversed would

00:38:56.280 you be happy to pay him as well i don't know if i would be happy about it but if i had married

00:39:01.620 somebody that was a lifetime commitment and they moved their entire life for my career so that i

00:39:06.620 could do what i wanted to do and live my life how i want to then i would probably understand that if

00:39:11.900 that's how the courts are set up that's just something i have to deal with or if that's whatever it is

00:39:15.660 that has to do that then um i here's what i don't understand right so i think there there is i hear

00:39:23.000 the other side when it comes to alimony and divorce where it's like a woman uh let's say you you meet a

00:39:29.400 girl and she was in college at the time and she was pursuing software engineering and had she gone on

00:39:35.500 to get that degree she would end up making you know upon graduation in some cases immediately they

00:39:43.020 start making a hundred thousand dollars a year they a lot of these software engineers can make

00:39:46.900 into like the two hundred three hundred thousand dollars a year eventually but i guess my question

00:39:51.700 is what if a woman prior to meeting her she was a uh a hairdresser and that was what she was going

00:40:01.100 to be for the rest of her life some hairdressers make really like you don't really i mean you can

00:40:08.100 raise your prices over time no some but if you're a hair hold on if you're a hairdresser uh you keep

00:40:14.960 the skills that you got prior to entering the relationship why should a man then basically uh

00:40:22.260 what's what's the term for it uh subsidize your life when once that relationship ends you can just go

00:40:30.120 back to the career you were doing and basically make what you i mean adjusted for inflation inflation or

00:40:37.440 whatever make what you were doing at the start of the relationship i realize not all people are

00:40:43.300 hairdressers but also not all people are software engineers so most people after they've not been

00:40:50.120 working for a while have a very hard time going back to whatever career they were doing and making

00:40:53.840 the same amount for one that is makes it very difficult okay but i also there's this lack of

00:40:59.740 acknowledgement like the way i'm viewing it is if he was supporting you during this entire time

00:41:05.280 i view that as a windfall where you didn't have any actual expenses like you didn't pay for rent

00:41:11.460 you didn't pay for food you didn't pay for xyz expense for a period of you know nine the nine

00:41:16.760 years you were together i view that as a windfall and i don't know that's but would you have been

00:41:23.300 happy to have paid the bills did you put did you put aside your dreams and your goals and your

00:41:29.020 education to support him in his endeavors yes so i don't see what the issue is i think that there

00:41:35.440 should be a time cap nine years i think that's a little long however brian if you are you know if

00:41:42.080 you're say you're with a woman and you know she's like i'm a rock star and i want to go travel the

00:41:48.200 world but you have to be with me so you have to give up your podcast everything you're doing and

00:41:52.400 all the money you're making and come come i'll take care of you but then she's just one day she's

00:41:56.880 like yeah like i'm gonna divorce you whatever reason whatever would you not feel kind of slighted

00:42:01.280 you'd be like i had my own stuff but then on the other side of it it's like that's your choice so i

00:42:06.260 i'm kind of 50 50 i think nine years is a long time but i also think if you've put your whole life

00:42:10.600 aside for somebody to support them in their endeavors which often happens in relationships

00:42:15.180 then i get it sure for nine years no but i get it like two three years after or perhaps like

00:42:21.660 not at a minimum when the relationships ended if you've been the sole provider of all the finances

00:42:27.500 and everything just like a grace period when the relationship's over of supporting them to the

00:42:32.120 point where they get financially you know stable enough to support everything themselves and then

00:42:37.200 take it away versus like we were together for 25 years now i'm gonna have to pay you every month

00:42:42.260 a certain amount you know for the 25 years even though we just split up right i think there are

00:42:47.820 definitely a whole bunch of different scenarios that can either uh make it make more sense for

00:42:54.560 there to be alimony but you know in this case i i think that i think yes i'm not going to be super

00:43:01.180 hard line where it's like all right you're a woman you met young you've been with the guy for 40 years

00:43:07.300 and then he dumps you i think it'd be fair to say that there should be some component

00:43:12.980 of ongoing support uh perhaps not for the rest of the life but for a period of time but in this

00:43:20.200 specific example uh and even in this specific example i'd be willing to grant perhaps a year

00:43:26.700 of alimony would be warranted just to get somebody back on their feet but i mean like what

00:43:33.120 nine years a decade's a long period of time so what like you know if i might add um i mean to me

00:43:44.360 uh the way that i'm like hearing the whole alimony situation is it sounds like you were promised a

00:43:51.040 certain lifestyle and you were promised a certain financial freedom or a certain dream or you know

00:43:57.680 like home family whatever and because that promise was broken like like during that promise you were

00:44:05.720 like oh i don't i don't need to go do all these other things because i'm taken care of but once

00:44:09.360 that promise is broken you were expectant of those things for the next coming years like you were

00:44:15.060 comfortable in the knowing that that would be your like future and so if that future that promise is

00:44:20.620 broken or taken away i understand like like you said like a year of helping you get back on your feet

00:44:27.500 if like they were literally the only one paying the bills if they're the breadwinners

00:44:31.640 all that i would understand like helping them get back on their feet or helping them get into a safe

00:44:36.580 place or position but after that i mean i feel like it has to be up to the person

00:44:43.400 to create their own future after that i just thought of something too okay you don't there is no abuse

00:44:50.680 you're not claiming any no abuse in the relationship you mentioned he left you can i ask

00:44:57.340 why because if you like say if you like cheated on the dude and then you're collecting can i know

00:45:04.580 why you guys why he decided to end it we weren't not we're not a good fit for each other okay we got

00:45:11.100 married very very young i didn't know entirely who i was i didn't know what i wanted he didn't know

00:45:16.000 what he wanted um there was an issue with kids you know in the beginning he said he wanted kids

00:45:21.360 kids then as it went on it was like nope that's not really happening he wasn't sure if he wanted

00:45:26.480 kids anymore so it just it's one of those things where both of us were young when we got married

00:45:30.940 and um because of the situation you know his career moved us around so i moved around with him

00:45:38.380 and then when we split up i pretty much was homeless like we were living in another we were living in

00:45:45.600 hawaii i don't have any friends there i don't have any family there

00:45:48.400 i didn't hardly have anywhere to go i had to go sleep on a friend's couch i didn't have a car

00:45:53.600 i moved with two suitcases and a couple of boxes and that was it and i pretty much had to figure out

00:46:00.580 how to get you know how to work on getting my life back together and so why is it taken like

00:46:08.340 what's your educational background because it's been nine years i don't have a whole lot of education

00:46:12.960 okay and i've had some trouble with finding jobs that i like and i enjoy and now that i have a job

00:46:18.420 that i like that pays me decent money and stuff like that i'm working on making it so that i don't

00:46:25.040 don't have to get money from him well she said she was 19 when she married him so it wasn't like she

00:46:30.080 had a whole lot of experience to even or like be comfortable after yeah i don't hate you i i think i

00:46:35.980 think the system is flawed but um and i can i can agree with you there i understand there's but what what is

00:46:42.300 the difference i guess between let's say you were just dating somebody for this period of time

00:46:48.860 do you think that there should be boyfriend or girlfriend alimony if i was dating somebody i would

00:46:54.740 not expect them to pay for everything after having been in a marriage and things like that i wouldn't

00:47:01.580 um give up anything i've i've right but what so all the actions that occurred in your relationship

00:47:07.760 you agree they could have happened in just a boyfriend girlfriend no because i don't think

00:47:12.600 it's necessarily great to spend years and years living with somebody and having sex with them if

00:47:18.460 you're never gonna get married sorry can i just interject here in washington state if you're with

00:47:23.060 someone for longer than i think two years and you're living with them it's considered a committed

00:47:27.440 intimate relationship and it is actually treated in the i think it's seven years i think it's eight

00:47:32.360 months in canada too it's actually eight months especially in washington state it used to be

00:47:36.820 so if you own a house with someone and you live with them technically you can be um given 50 percent

00:47:44.100 of their assets retarded salary everything i'm allowed to say that as a member as a member are you on

00:47:52.700 the spectrum so but one sec here um but again you you'd agree though that it's

00:48:00.200 logically possible that somebody could be and you know assuming a state where there isn't common law

00:48:07.140 marriage somebody could be in this exact same situation where they've just been in a relationship

00:48:12.680 boyfriend girlfriend with somebody do you think then that there should be a law passed that makes

00:48:20.420 a boyfriend in a similar situation have to pay a girlfriend for nine years after they've broken up

00:48:26.840 it does work like that it's whoever makes most money well in common law marriage it does work

00:48:32.480 that way yeah no but in california if i was dating a girl for five years and we break up and i was

00:48:37.360 taking care of everything during the course of the relationship i break up goodbye it's over well i

00:48:43.480 think marriage is in the context of like a contract you're actually signing something that goes up

00:48:47.940 higher as far as what's taken seriously compelling argumentation for why men or at least the breadwinner

00:48:53.780 should not get married well i have a question though do you do you want a traditional woman

00:48:59.240 do i do i want a traditional yeah like if you're going to be with somebody long term if you were

00:49:04.640 looking at being with somebody for the rest of your life would that woman be a traditional woman

00:49:08.320 yeah i know the argument you're about to make you're like well brian you tend to prefer dating

00:49:12.820 younger or not sure okay younger traditional women oh is that right i don't know why i brought it to age

00:49:20.060 gap right away i was i was including the age gap argument i guess that was coming too brian if you

00:49:26.080 preferred to date a traditional woman she's going to have an expectation of marriage no not necessarily

00:49:30.820 that okay just if you is that is that what you would want if you were with somebody long term would

00:49:35.880 it be a traditional woman well i believe being traditional to some degree is it's not completely

00:49:41.420 binary there's spectrum to being traditional or not so in this case while i do enjoy a bit more of a

00:49:48.840 traditional dynamic in a relationship uh i i personally don't want to get married so the woman

00:49:54.760 that i'm going to be with even if you're not married though are you going to be with the person

00:49:58.540 that you would be with long term is it more of a traditional woman do you mean like is she making

00:50:02.340 money or no money is like would you prefer somebody who stays home cooks for you takes care of the

00:50:07.760 house does all of those things uh is that what yeah i would say i would say that would be a

00:50:13.600 a leaning preference towards okay so the reason that you have alimony is because in the past there

00:50:19.680 were people who would be married for 20 30 40 years and the woman has never had a career has never had

00:50:28.120 a job she has been a homemaker yeah but this isn't the 1960s no i know work but my point is if you want

00:50:34.700 a traditional woman and if you find that traditional woman and you're with her for 15 years and she's doing

00:50:41.420 nothing to further her career and her status at making money she's not gaining any skills because

00:50:48.500 she's taking care of the house the only job you can get with house taking care of skills is being

00:50:52.960 a house cleaner that doesn't pay you great yeah but so hold on so if you're with her for 15 20 years

00:50:59.340 and then let's use your example nine years but go ahead either way well also by the way this is a bit

00:51:05.700 of a technicality go ahead so when if you're with somebody for 15 or 20 years and then they get a

00:51:11.900 divorce there was a lot of women in the past that could not support themselves they had nothing they

00:51:18.500 had no job to go get they hadn't built any of that i'm not saying it's that way now but if you want a

00:51:23.900 traditional woman what you are asking a woman to do is to forego earn gaining skills that would make

00:51:31.500 her a lot of money in the future question for you um are you currently in school right now no okay

00:51:37.620 so are you pursuing a career where your skills are leveling up or whatever yes and uh during the

00:51:45.380 course of your marriage were you working at all a little bit oh you were working so you were not a

00:51:50.440 lot though it was here and there it wasn't sometimes yeah but part of it was were you moving around

00:51:55.380 a lot or um every few years so i think it's safe to assume the military yeah i was just gonna say

00:52:01.660 i think that's probably safe to assume well i have a lot of policies let me let me yeah so let me ask

00:52:06.180 you so uh right now you're not pursuing like advancement in terms of your education so if you and me were

00:52:12.820 to get married and we were together for 10 years uh i you could just pick right back up where you left

00:52:19.620 off not not necessarily that's not how it works you clean boats if i'm not with that job yes but

00:52:27.740 go back to cleaning boats it took me a long time to even get a job when i was looking for jobs because

00:52:33.500 i didn't have welcome to be an adult but wait it's yes sometimes it takes time to brian you're not

00:52:38.860 considering something when you have and like not um not saying anything about you again but age is a

00:52:45.860 factor as you get older whether you're a man or a woman the higher your age is the less likely to

00:52:50.740 get hired so i see it it's not i hear what you're saying i'm not saying you're wrong but i'm just

00:52:56.820 saying yeah but is that that's not like leveling up to the career that you're talking about though

00:53:01.060 living in today's society on that money okay but again but i think we're diminishing the degree to

00:53:07.500 which yes there's perhaps lack of career advancement but i see it as a windfall where women are

00:53:14.480 subsidized for five ten fifteen twenty years of your life where you don't have to you don't have

00:53:20.280 any in her case she didn't have the expenses uh he paid for her stuff he paid paid for food rent

00:53:27.820 everything so i view that as that's a windfall sorry can i ask a really quick question you said

00:53:35.160 that you wanted children he did in the beginning and then he changed his mind yes i'm sorry was that

00:53:40.100 part of the divorce and do you feel like your payments after the alimony is sort of to make up

00:53:45.540 for not having children because you gave so much of your life for a fertile question no it's not

00:53:50.240 that's it's not payment for that that's awful um so is is the alimony that he's giving her now

00:53:57.000 um to make up for kind of dragging her along that was never there yeah you shouldn't be paying for the

00:54:04.580 idea of a child that's crazy but you know think about how you know women do have a time limit for

00:54:10.340 children no no we don't we i mean we kind of do like also no it's not logical but i don't okay it's

00:54:17.280 100 you have a time limit yeah so i was just wondering if that was some people have more

00:54:21.800 trouble with infertility or in making a baby but a man should not pay for the promise or the idea of

00:54:29.200 a baby he didn't put one in you you didn't make one together that's crazy but when they first got

00:54:34.400 together and they got married he did say he wanted it and then changed and then they both

00:54:38.640 changed his people as they grew and aged together she didn't change her mind wait in addition to

00:54:43.500 alimony was there a community proper property division kids she can go hold on we don't really

00:54:49.280 have a ton of item you know we never bought a house or anything there wasn't really any big

00:54:53.720 financial items to split but in addition to the the ongoing monthly and alimony he pays you

00:55:00.760 was there like a one-time payment that he had to like a because i i don't know if it's called

00:55:07.220 community property or and that would include like funds or whatever that's usually if if both people

00:55:14.220 have paid into something so that usually has to do with like a house or a car that both people have

00:55:18.180 paid into okay then when you split up whoever's keeping that thing has to pay out the other person

00:55:23.220 uh pull it up nick just we had i wanted to look into this scroll down

00:55:27.300 or anything like that interesting scroll down keep going keep going all right wait wait wait wait

00:55:35.100 wait back up okay uh just scroll up a little bit more uh summary of maintenance norms practitioners

00:55:42.000 often say judges award alimony for a time period equal to about 25 percent of the marriage's length

00:55:47.460 this is this is in for washington state perhaps the best one sentence summary blah blah blah

00:55:53.000 uh short marriage uh zero to five or zero three years of marriage maintenance of enough to help

00:55:58.800 meet the lesser earning spouse's basic everyday needs for a few months while he or she gets back

00:56:03.440 on his or her feet financially uh mid-length marriage so five to 25 or three to 20 years of

00:56:09.840 marriage maintenance to the lesser earning spouse for for 20 to 33 percent of the length of the marriage

00:56:15.980 the initial monthly amount might be enough to equal wait 20 to 33 so you should have only been

00:56:22.140 paying alimony for like a year and three three years 20 to 30 percent of what he earns for the

00:56:28.560 length of the marriage 33 of the length of the marriage so he should have been so if it was a

00:56:33.460 10-year marriage it would have been like three years yeah yeah two to three years uh the initial

00:56:38.960 monthly amount might not okay and then long-term marriage maintenance of enough to equalize the

00:56:43.580 party's economic positions for many years if not for life but also although i assume the judges have

00:56:50.440 some discretion as to whatever so can i ask you a question and you may not like it and i don't mean

00:56:56.840 it in a like a rude way whatsoever a lot of people know this about me but some of them don't i actually

00:57:02.820 pay child support myself i have 50 50 custody of my kids great mom but for some reason i pay 3 000 a month

00:57:10.900 so i feel particularly bitter about that because he has full capability to work i i have my kids 50

00:57:18.360 of the time but i feel like in his situation if you give somebody a fish every single day and they

00:57:24.980 don't have to teach themselves how to catch one they're just going to keep taking your fish do you

00:57:29.540 feel like no disrespect but do you feel like that might be a part of the the situation here where you're

00:57:35.860 just like well the government's saying i can get it so i'm just going to take it no because even by

00:57:40.480 your own admission you say it's not very much so i when you say that i don't know i think maybe like

00:57:45.140 80 to 100 bucks a month am i um it's a little bit more than that but it's not a ton right you know so

00:57:50.860 if it's not necessarily making an impact or a difference why continue to take it i'm still

00:57:57.980 working on getting my financial stuff sorted out with like how i'm gonna pay for insurance and

00:58:04.040 different things like that i live in a very very very expensive area so how long have you guys been

00:58:09.540 divorced again i don't remember the exact date like how many years probably five or six

00:58:14.640 girl you've had five or six years if i know but they've been separated they've been separated for

00:58:21.560 nine years relate to your situation obviously i wasn't married and i didn't have kids but i did

00:58:26.540 spend around 10 years being around the same person and six years of it thinking that we were going to

00:58:32.740 get married instead of family we owned a business together we traveled and ran our business together

00:58:38.320 we lived in a home together we had a dog all this stuff but when we broke up we broke up we we split

00:58:47.000 our stuff and split whatever we had of the business decided to just um kind of get rid of the business

00:58:54.560 and run our separate own things but i gave up a lot but the entire time sorry the entire time we were

00:59:01.020 half and half like we were both paying bills we were both working our asses off to make sure that we

00:59:06.500 could support our lifestyle and support ourselves and when we broke up i wasn't expecting him to

00:59:13.680 continue to take care of me because we took care of ourselves and each other it was nearish the same

00:59:21.760 amount of time as obviously it's not comparable but it is similar i literally moved across the country

00:59:31.360 i moved from charleston south carolina to las vegas and i restarted my entire life i've done that

00:59:37.880 multiple times but even when i was in charleston i was working every odd job i could i had three jobs

00:59:44.420 i had my own business i was running art business like i was making sure that i was i was educated enough

00:59:51.620 to get any job that would support me and keep me safe that i could so it like not to be rude but i

01:00:02.380 don't understand how you could not be wanting to get back on your feet not that you're not wanting

01:00:09.640 i do i am trying to do that i work such a long time there are i work more than i work more than 40

01:00:16.120 hours a week at my job i work my ass off i'm not saying that you don't and i'm trying to do that

01:00:22.560 but i'm saying there are assistance programs that could help you even just formulate a better plan

01:00:28.520 do you want to go back to school no i'm not a school person like a certificate or of any kind

01:00:34.460 no i don't do great in school so that's not really i'm not i don't want to go spend money on

01:00:39.980 something that i'm going to have a hard time completing sometimes nowadays you just need to get

01:00:43.700 a certificate and then that opens up more doors honestly i like i like my job i enjoy my job

01:00:49.040 sounds like it's a very good job that you can count on which is which is what you need it doesn't pay

01:00:54.600 me the best and where i live at you you know statistics show that for a single person to fully

01:01:02.200 live on their own in seattle they need to make at least 90 000 if not more than that yeah may i ask

01:01:08.440 there is very very decided sorry continue there's very few jobs that pay you that amount of

01:01:13.620 money so when you don't have like certificates or like other like skills that you can actually

01:01:18.980 monetize and that might be where you find yourself stuck if that makes sense yeah why why have you

01:01:25.040 decided to live in such an affluent neighborhood why have you decided to afford yourself this

01:01:31.180 lifestyle that you can't i i don't it's i don't live a lifestyle beyond my means i live with family

01:01:37.440 you know and i'm trying to get back on my feet i have had to get a car when i split up with him

01:01:43.520 i've had a bunch of other stuff and i'm not i'm not trying to minimize i just feel like you're trying

01:01:48.240 to put you're trying to put a label on something that like you weren't there for nine years of so

01:01:53.020 i'm not saying that like i mean i'm respectful none of you guys know what happened during our

01:01:57.660 relationship and none of you guys know what happened after that relationship obviously not

01:02:01.000 for several years after it i was almost homeless i was sleeping on couches i slept on an air mattress

01:02:07.360 in my brother's floor floor for a year i watched multiple things with that so i mean i have been

01:02:15.920 working on getting on my feet and when it comes down to it i could have gotten more money from him

01:02:22.680 than i've gotten why because of what he does for work but what does that have to do with you

01:02:28.980 benevolence she could have gotten more money than she's already i know that that's my point

01:02:33.000 though is like why would any of you have any even a sliver of sympathy for a guy who he broke up with

01:02:39.560 his girl it ended i was raised by two fucking six seven eight nine years later he's like oh i've been

01:02:46.820 struggling financially and i was homeless for a period of time and he's trying to put the blame on that

01:02:52.220 on the ex-girlfriend or the ex-wife i'm not blaming him for it no but y'all want to

01:02:58.600 sympathize with her situation but i guarantee you if the roles were reversed and he was some dude

01:03:03.280 saying well i was struggling financially and i was homeless and you'd be like who the fuck is this

01:03:09.160 is there not a difference between men and women though well that's true i think women are capable

01:03:21.480 of well we can actually capitalize on the situation like this i think that's what makes men and women

01:03:26.040 different because like brian said we would be like what the fuck bro but there are a lot of factors

01:03:30.980 there's a lot of factors that you guys are not paying attention to which is why do i need to

01:03:35.080 we're talking about because this is a discussion we're talking about the base what you're seeing

01:03:39.460 is the base relationship right no i'm saying scientifically the women's prefrontal cortex

01:03:44.040 does not mature until you're 25 okay she was 19 when she got married

01:03:48.700 i didn't interrupt you but you can interrupt me if you'd like

01:03:52.820 i think the prefrontal cortex stuff is like kind of bullshit but it would apply to both men and are you

01:03:59.600 do you have a doctor i actually study the brain so i'm the first one to tell you that women do

01:04:06.920 emotionally mature at the age of 25 men emotionally mature in between the age of 36 and 38 however

01:04:13.220 it doesn't mean you're not however this is the point it's a tough line right because nobody wants

01:04:18.700 to look at you and be like you know you're a piece of shit you're wrong you're lazy nobody wants

01:04:23.560 to do that i'm not saying i've been perfect either right but the point is is that matter of fact

01:04:28.760 brian you made a great point if a man was to sit here and be like well i made this choice then we

01:04:34.740 would look at him and be like okay that was your choice at the end of the day the reality is in my

01:04:40.080 opinion no woman should be getting in or man should be getting into a relationship where you are a hundred

01:04:46.040 percent um depending on that person the whole idea of i want to support that that's what a marriage

01:04:51.880 is you literally signed up no because you interrupted me she's interrupted me i didn't interrupt you at

01:04:56.460 all actually both of you have and i'm not going to try to interrupt you but i'm saying that you are

01:05:01.780 talking about all these factors that may just apply to you you don't know what i'm talking about because

01:05:06.000 i didn't finish yeah i i haven't been able to finish a single sentence go ahead i'd love to hear you

01:05:10.660 thank you what i'm saying is she got married at 19 so she's not even emotionally mature he's not

01:05:17.320 emotionally mature i'm not defending her but i wasn't even getting to that point because both of you

01:05:21.200 just talk over everybody but the point being is that she she got into this marriage expecting to

01:05:27.940 stay with him forever because that's a commitment you make right and you guys are trying to just

01:05:33.780 like narrow it down to this label on her and blaming her for everything when you don't even

01:05:38.300 know him or have talked to him but yet we're so quick to defend him i don't believe we're not

01:05:43.180 defending him we don't know him i actually started by saying not to judge you right put you down i don't

01:05:49.040 know you can say that but it's what you're doing sure you could say you're not maybe if you're

01:05:53.260 small-minded sure yeah but if you let me finish going back to degrading let me know what i can

01:05:58.300 speak am i good go ahead okay thank you we don't know everybody's situation right i'm i'd never want

01:06:04.500 to sit here and judge you i don't know you from a hole in the wall and you seem incredibly sweet

01:06:08.480 i kind of like you i appreciate it at the end of the day the reality is we are responsible for

01:06:15.500 our choices i had a baby at 19 i was in an extremely abusive relationship i had no education

01:06:22.120 i came from social services i didn't have parents i was born in an orphanage in romania zero all the

01:06:28.040 cards stacked against me when the abuse got bad when i had my daughter i left okay and i haven't taken

01:06:35.300 one penny child support from him i argument could say maybe i deserve it right i fled i was homeless i had

01:06:41.900 a baby strapped to my chest going to a train station at 2 a.m unfair but the reality is is that you have

01:06:47.840 to take responsibility for your own life at some sort of time and my point is is that you can't go

01:06:54.100 back that's why i'm not going to judge you i don't know your situation but what i would say is to any men

01:06:58.880 and any woman do not put yourself in a situation where you are going to be financially dependent

01:07:04.580 solely on somebody else because you're going to get fucked over sometimes you will sometimes you won't

01:07:10.560 okay but that's just the reality you're going to get judged sometimes and you're going to have

01:07:15.160 conversations like this you can't go back but i'm sure if you could you probably would have done a

01:07:19.700 different correct oh yes i would have done a lot of things very differently right but it's just not

01:07:24.040 the argument of like well you know i made this choice and i left when i was 19 that's awful and i i

01:07:30.640 sympathize with you there but it's not his responsibility for the rest of your like until you

01:07:35.480 get back on your feet to pay you for that i don't that makes no sense and if a man was sitting here

01:07:40.560 and saying the exact same thing i'd probably be harsher with him and be like you're a fucking loser

01:07:45.760 just women we're not taught to be rude to each other like that and i don't think you're a loser

01:07:49.640 probably because you're a woman and i have some sort of like bias there but if it was a man sitting

01:07:54.980 here yeah i'd be like what's wrong with you get your shit together it's not her responsibility

01:07:58.880 so one one thing about that when you say people should not be dependent on anybody else

01:08:03.860 you run into some problems there with like i personally think that a big problem with our

01:08:10.520 society is that you don't have mothers raising their own children and for mothers to raise their

01:08:15.420 own children generally it makes it very hard for them to have a career you didn't have kids

01:08:19.640 what no i'm not talking about me specifically doesn't have any moms i'm not talking about me

01:08:24.900 specifically i'm saying when you say that nobody should ever be dependent on anybody for mothers

01:08:30.140 to raise their kids they need to be dependent on don't be financially dependent solely have an

01:08:35.660 education have you can be a stay-at-home mom that's fine yeah do you have an education do you have

01:08:39.720 something put aside do you have some family that's going to support you after some people don't so i

01:08:43.700 didn't if i may add to what you said i believe like i can make it a smaller statement um

01:08:50.000 sorry all right so moving this on anyways so i lost it so i am engaged

01:08:57.640 yeah uh yeah really quick why don't you tell us your relationship status but i do want to finish

01:09:02.540 off a couple things on that so relationship status you're engaged how long have you been

01:09:06.700 together with your fiancee uh coming up to about two years two years all right longest relationship

01:09:12.080 three and a half years three and a half got it and you said you had two kids one kid i have two

01:09:16.700 two kids gotcha uh separate dads right or two okay gotcha and uh is one of the kids with your

01:09:25.140 current fiancee or okay gotcha are you planning on having more kids no tubes are getting tied

01:09:31.660 tubes tied all done all done does your fiancee does he have kids he does i have a stepson he's 16

01:09:37.480 okay gotcha um really quick just going back to the marriage thing then we'll move on to some

01:09:42.340 other topics uh i guess my thing here let's say i i was 19 and i not that i would i really have any

01:09:51.820 interest in dating women who do only fans or anything like this let's say i was uh got into

01:09:56.420 a relationship with an of girl most 18 19 20 year old men they're don't have the capacity to make

01:10:03.920 a lot of money only let's say i was dating this old of girl and we got married and she went on to

01:10:10.300 make like multi multi millions of dollars a year we were together for uh i don't know five ten years

01:10:16.400 whatever from your guys's perspective do you think it'd be fair that 10 years later i'm still being

01:10:23.360 paid alimony by her like imagine you you were dating a guy who like you're the primary breadwinner

01:10:32.140 and you were significantly out earning him how would you feel about having to pay a dude who you haven't

01:10:37.960 dealt with in a decade you'd be okay with that i've always been the breadwinner in all of my

01:10:44.820 relationships so i'm actually quite used to that um during the course of your relationships now imagine

01:10:49.400 all those relationships all these dudes who fucking cheated on you whatever the fuck it was

01:10:53.880 treated you badly whatever it is you had to pay him money afterwards for years you'd be cool with

01:11:02.000 that i'd be fucking pissed yeah i wouldn't like that yeah no i wasn't saying that i'm not cool

01:11:06.760 with it i don't like us trying to put labels or degrade people when we don't even know their

01:11:10.440 situation when we weren't there for the nine years of it so we have no idea what we're talking about

01:11:14.380 i hope you don't feel degraded but yeah it's not that you're not an amazing person and also it doesn't

01:11:19.640 necessarily matter how i feel because we're gonna have lawmakers who put it up anyway

01:11:25.580 the reality is is that men are falling behind in education they're falling behind in their careers

01:11:32.120 women are actually starting to get paid more there's only fans there's all of this stuff so

01:11:37.020 you mark my words on the next 10 20 years when women are out earning men you're gonna see things

01:11:43.100 like child support and alimony they're gonna be capped they're gonna be like no more because ain't no

01:11:49.560 way women are gonna be paying men that they no longer date it's such a double standard we're not gonna

01:11:55.140 do it so it's like the moment we get paid it's fine but the moment we're gonna have to pay men

01:12:00.320 oh you're gonna see an uproar but like at that point if you're gonna invest into your education

01:12:05.060 and have money on the standby and have a supportive family like why even get married then like why not

01:12:09.640 just stay single because you're already building your own fortress in case you find somebody you

01:12:14.420 want to be with love and connection right i think marriage is a business also you definitely have to

01:12:18.700 be like strategic with who you're going to say your vows in front of god like that's who you

01:12:23.940 should be investing in and that means taking time to get to know someone it's a mental thing too like

01:12:28.720 some people just aren't ready for that when you guys are meeting and that's why you might outgrow

01:12:33.080 somebody at the same time but marriage is not just about love it's a business what can this person add

01:12:38.100 to not only your life but the people who you plan to have kids or who plan to come after you right like

01:12:43.640 love is cool and all but it doesn't necessarily pay the bills we i feel like a lot of people take

01:12:48.040 marriage very loosey-goosey like right like they don't they don't well now nowadays yeah yeah like

01:12:54.180 a lot of girls just dream of the ring and the marriage and all that and they don't think about

01:12:57.680 like the boring parts right the hard part the hard parts or what happens when you're not as excited

01:13:02.360 about her yeah or if you're not having sex every couple hours you know time and when you're not

01:13:07.240 going on dates all the time like right yeah are you still gonna want to be with that person if

01:13:11.180 he's like farting and shitting over there it's like you actually like this person you know you

01:13:16.140 gotta think about that too because taking vows in front of god is not supposed to be taken lightly

01:13:20.140 it's not supposed to end in divorce if you're like religious this easily uh for her situation

01:13:25.460 you heard uh for for kate's you guys heard the circumstances you heard the details

01:13:31.880 they met at what 19 you haven't heard all of them because i'm not sharing everything that's a long

01:13:39.020 time to cover but we know the material details you didn't have kids you weren't on your way to

01:13:46.360 becoming some investment banker on wall street you understanding you weren't even were you in

01:13:53.400 college at the time i went to school for shortly while i was with him but i didn't finish it

01:13:57.960 okay but was that a choice that you made like could you have continued it's possible plausible

01:14:04.060 he would have even paid for your college possibly but i don't know no he wouldn't have done that

01:14:09.800 okay well he didn't you made a choice to be with him so we do know though that you don't have any kids

01:14:15.700 so given that she was with the guy for nine years does it make sense to you that nine years after the

01:14:25.520 end of their relationship he's still paying her money does it make sense to you show of hands do you

01:14:31.100 think he should it should be the case that he should be paying her money show of hands yes i think he

01:14:35.760 should pay her money but like not for nine no you don't so just to be clear i've heard that's too long

01:14:40.740 you think it's wrong that he's paying like he shouldn't have yeah i never even got to make my

01:14:45.180 full argument that was why like why you were like something now like see i'm just rather not asking

01:14:53.220 would you like to say something i'm asking you now no i know i know but i'm saying i wasn't even

01:14:58.160 talking about the alimony i wasn't concerned with the alimony i mean that's literally the

01:15:02.060 topic of the conversation but you are saying like you want a traditional woman but then

01:15:07.360 she's also supposed to do anything because if she's if wow i love the red herring back to the actual

01:15:12.940 topic that's being discussed where i'm asking you a question about her specific situation if you think

01:15:18.740 or you can even uh copy and paste it into some other situation where a guy was with uh married to a

01:15:25.240 for a period of nine years and then a decade later is it fair that he's still paying her alimony

01:15:30.500 yes or no no i don't for that time frame no i don't think thank you okay what about you no i don't

01:15:38.340 think so especially not this day and age i think the only time that that made sense was like what

01:15:43.260 we discussed what everybody was discussing earlier when you were in a time period where you couldn't

01:15:47.700 like where we were in a time period where you couldn't have your own bank account you couldn't buy

01:15:51.260 your own car you couldn't buy your own home you know we're not in that era we haven't been in a

01:15:55.380 very very long time um also coming from somebody who was raised by two married lesbians from the 90s

01:16:02.640 it was never a male female heteronormative relationship and that's just not always the

01:16:07.880 case in the world so right now especially when it comes down to alimony and bad things happening

01:16:13.220 after divorce it pretty much comes down to like you were speaking before how much child support you have

01:16:17.440 to pay it comes down to who's the main breadwinner and that's who ends up having to pay more money

01:16:21.580 when you guys split at the end so i don't think nobody's on board with the alimony no i never was

01:16:27.900 like like i said if you can make your own money why shouldn't anybody have to pay you once you split

01:16:32.480 like that so how many years you got left a couple years yeah a couple years um it's complicated

01:16:40.340 is that like a test so is that is that like i honestly i don't like to talk about it because

01:16:46.620 i don't want to drag him into anything with any of it yeah thank you for talking about it thus far

01:16:52.520 it's been very educational i you know i don't necessarily think it's fair that he pays me

01:17:00.600 um that's why i'm trying to get to a point where he doesn't have to pay me and i've been working on

01:17:05.800 getting to where he pays me less and less over time he's not paying me as much as he was to begin

01:17:10.560 with and from the beginning he's never paid me as much as he would have i could have gotten more

01:17:17.400 from him so to say her question again why is it even worth it to go through it then because i still

01:17:24.840 needed i still do need some help with it okay but it's not you know he's not paying me two thousand

01:17:30.720 dollars a month he's never paid me that much a month i mean listen there's literally nothing wrong

01:17:34.520 with having a little bit of help especially from somebody that once loved you but i i do believe

01:17:40.080 that i don't i don't think forced by a court right yeah i don't think forced by a court no yeah if he

01:17:46.040 was voluntarily doing it if like y'all broke up and he was like hey i'll help you get into a place

01:17:51.260 that's different than being like you have to pay me this money through the court system

01:17:55.260 i haven't had to force him to do it but i i understand needing a little bit of help especially

01:18:01.400 after you've been dependent on somebody but i've always been raised up to like pull your bootstraps

01:18:06.840 up like same like see it's been nine years fake it like you can fake it till you make it and then

01:18:14.460 cry whenever you're alone type thing you know i don't think i don't even think my girlfriend from

01:18:19.820 nine years ago even remembers my name that's a lot different than a marriage though brian's an easy

01:18:25.760 name to remember no i mean i don't remember a couple people imagine i fight a few years ago hey

01:18:30.820 uh becky can you give me some money oh no anyways all right uh we have some chats here uh we have

01:18:39.020 hiller michigan hey thank you man uh brian her ex is 100 military he got out of the marriage at nine

01:18:45.260 years so he didn't have to share half his retirement if he didn't get out at nine years it took a while

01:18:50.480 for it to that's the thing is i guess he there was some delays or something so it went over the

01:18:57.780 10-year threshold or whatever but uh hiller thank you man appreciate it metro matt chair seven nine

01:19:03.120 years to get your finances figured out that's a scam also quit the cope and get over it alimony is

01:19:08.640 capped typically at a few years so i'm calling cap on this situation about the cap i don't know he says

01:19:15.980 metro matt says there's cap going on we don't know all the details though uh a lot of these

01:19:23.360 court cases are very fact specific jurisdiction specific but uh thank you did you want to respond

01:19:29.260 to any of those or no i'm okay all right all right uh okay so we have a couple things to get

01:19:33.520 through uh first thing we're going to get into the crash out kylie update stuff so all right guys

01:19:38.140 holy shit so uh i'll give you guys some background so nick first can you just open up a

01:19:44.220 uh open up yeah uh whatever tab on youtube just so we can show the debate you're fine you're fine

01:19:52.780 uh so it was may may 17th i hosted a debate between andrew wilson and a lady named kylie brewer

01:20:04.680 you got it you're gonna have to probably pause the audio and then just it's the main

01:20:10.600 just the front page of youtube.com slash whatever we're just gonna look at the thumbnail okay

01:20:16.520 it's just youtube.com slash whatever that's it do you think you're gonna lose no

01:20:31.000 what's the lawsuit i know how much money is she suing you for hold on okay is this your first lawsuit

01:20:37.220 we'll get all the tea i guess we'll get into it do we okay here make it bigger please uh scroll

01:20:45.220 down scroll down scroll down scroll down okay the one with the green you don't have to click on

01:20:50.600 anything we're here so two months ago right uh you see that girl with the green hair that just crash

01:20:54.700 out kylie uh she did a debate with andrew wilson very highly viewed episode uh 750 000 views so uh if

01:21:03.180 you want to watch the video by the way guys that debate is quite interesting but that's the video

01:21:07.300 in question now pull up the discord please so here's the genesis of everything so um actually

01:21:16.900 wait before we pull up the discord i'll do a little bit of background so in uh mid-march i reached out to

01:21:23.160 kylie i'd seen some of her tiktoks on her tiktoks she is a feminist anti-racist queer leftist

01:21:32.860 all of the buzzwords that they like to use uh hide this while i'm telling the story please

01:21:37.820 um tiktok creator she does a bunch of that shit invite her to come to a debate my opening message

01:21:46.180 to her was like hey hope you're doing well we'd like to invite you to do a debate on feminism

01:21:51.060 uh over the course of about two months we are scheduling it discussing it sign a formal contract

01:21:59.200 may 2nd of 2025 and then may 17th is the day that we have the debate with her and then two days

01:22:06.800 leading up to that andrew had a debate with a male feminist and then another male feminist oliver

01:22:11.960 so he did two uh two separate live debates that were available for viewing on the whatever channel

01:22:17.440 leading up to her specific appearance and that's important because it will there'll be context as

01:22:22.960 i explain it further uh go ahead and pull up the discord so we do the debate um and you know what

01:22:28.920 actually go to the video sorry go back to no no no go back to the youtube page my bad i'm giving you

01:22:35.920 mixed instructions here uh go back to the youtube page go ahead and click on the debate

01:22:40.980 uh just click it without for now oh this one all right so um pause it just pause right there

01:22:49.540 all right uh use the the arrow keys and to scrub backwards go full screen yeah go full screen okay

01:22:59.380 scrub backwards for me all right uh scratch this one yeah scrub forward he looks like tom segura

01:23:08.660 scrub scrub scrub uh go back like 20 seconds we're gonna get audio ready

01:23:15.560 all right video tab okay go ahead play it oh ah shit okay just find the same spot in any case

01:23:28.040 she was she was completely obnoxious during the thing and she ended up like walking off multiple

01:23:34.340 times during the debate eventually leaving the debate early and uh the most notable thing yeah

01:23:41.320 uh okay play it we might scrub back but play it uh and then uh are women as a group oppressed in the

01:23:49.200 usa your answer um i think it's possible but i really need to leave may i just at least can you

01:23:55.940 stay for andrew's clothes no i don't look we're not we're not kidnapping you we're just i'm just

01:24:00.820 asking

01:24:01.080 okay you said you could stay five minutes come on i'm leaving

01:24:09.120 all right that's pretty much it you can pause it there there um there was there's a couple other

01:24:15.840 clips in there that are important but uh the the main thing though is that at some point when she'd

01:24:21.900 gotten up during one of her leaves she had stated when she came back to the table that someone had

01:24:27.800 contacted her and offered her money to leave the show early so so uh and the component of this for

01:24:36.780 the some of these 1v1 debates will help people out with some of the travel just because sometimes for

01:24:41.540 debates it's very difficult to get opposition to agree to uh do the debates so we offered to help

01:24:46.840 her out with some of the flight and hotel uh so go ahead pull up the discord now so

01:24:51.480 uh this is from shortly after the debate i think a week or two after the debate uh

01:24:57.720 why don't we play that video so put full screen we're gonna go video tab okay

01:25:04.060 full on the video

01:25:06.020 okay go ahead oh it's just a picture okay not the trauma

01:25:12.560 so yeah so go back to window go back to window tab leave it leave it

01:25:20.520 no i can't even okay so she says i had a traumatic experience 10 days ago which was stressful and

01:25:27.740 led to insomnia this combined with being sick led me to develop bell's palsy which is partial

01:25:33.200 paralysis on the left side of the face that girl went to the dentist

01:25:36.760 what she's referring to uh 10 days ago she's referencing the debate that she had with andrew

01:25:43.560 wilson which is the traumatic experience that she is alluding to x out of that then we're going to

01:25:48.360 get into the other ones uh scroll down can i let you know brian this has been a very traumatic

01:25:54.660 experience for me too i feel traumatized i'm very traumatized and i'm i'm definitely gonna have

01:26:00.800 insomnia now for several weeks all right so oh my goodness uh there's there's a bunch of details

01:26:06.720 but uh why don't we just play the video so click that video video video tab on okay

01:26:13.900 wait pause pause pause go full screen first okay go ahead oh stop it no way what wait pause pause pause

01:26:21.940 pause and i need your help is there an audio thing in the discord what uh play it for just a few

01:26:28.780 seconds this is really hold on uh pull up the tweet let me see if the tweets are louder go go the

01:26:38.760 tweet one instead sorry guys i don't know why the discord audio on that's super low

01:26:44.660 yeah okay pull video please pull the video

01:26:52.500 okay full screen it started from the beginning

01:26:58.500 let's see if it's louder oh my god this

01:27:04.300 hold on pause it really quick chat can you guys hear it okay chat it might be it it's a little

01:27:17.080 hard on our ends but if the chat is hearing it okay they can read the subtitles yeah there are

01:27:21.840 subtitles um chat is the audio okay like can you even hear her uh go ahead play

01:27:27.880 i can't escape that systems that uphold white supremacy and racism in the u.s which pisses off

01:27:34.060 a number of uber racist white supremacists about six weeks ago i was misled by some

01:27:40.960 she was a misled podcast that turned out to be red pill oh my god

01:27:47.040 really oh no so i would prefer to not go into more it seemed fine

01:27:55.120 there are hundreds of followers on to me to

01:28:01.380 and spam report my account until it was removed on instagram

01:28:05.000 fake

01:28:10.100 i've become a target for them for themselves and red pill people

01:28:14.540 see this if you could just let me know because i'm like really close

01:28:18.160 okay okay i was lured and she made it sound like you guys told her she was going to a birthday

01:28:29.080 party and end up being an orgy or like a ditty party yeah but it was a debate i was lured by

01:28:34.720 these men i love traumatized she said it's the most traumatic i watched it you were completely

01:28:40.060 respectful i wish that was the most trauma i'd ever been through yeah that's the most trauma you've

01:28:44.340 had a really easy life it gets worse she she put herself it gets worse it gets worse yeah and just

01:28:50.600 to so to just address a couple of her claims there uh the fact she says she was misled uh keep in

01:28:56.700 mind we reached out to her so uh march 28th and then so seven weeks later she had her appearance

01:29:02.140 march may 17th that's seven weeks to have done even uh the smallest amount of basic due diligence

01:29:10.320 uh so she had time to research the podcast we messaged from the official whatever instagram page

01:29:17.260 there all of our podcasts are live uncut unedited uh there's clips everything nothing is hidden

01:29:24.760 and in addition to that uh yeah she had seven weeks uh also we entered into a formal agreement

01:29:32.860 two weeks prior to her actual appearance uh she also falsely alleges that we sent our follows to

01:29:39.620 harass spam report or target her which is entirely false uh there's no evidence for it we've never

01:29:46.540 directed uh our audience to yeah that's just called being held accountable

01:29:51.380 yeah and there's if if a handful of people online even did this uh there's a there's no proof that

01:30:04.080 there's any link to us we deny that we would ever we've we've had on thousands of guests we've never

01:30:09.720 directed anybody to harass any of our guests that have ever been on of course it's called being on the

01:30:16.020 internet there are going to be people who see an episode or they they could see her other dog shit

01:30:21.320 content there's a lot of subject matter there to criticize her on besides just her debate appearance

01:30:28.600 against andrew wilson she also kind of quite outrageously claims that it was the most traumatic

01:30:34.600 experience of her life uh i think if voluntarily participating on a podcast somewhat contentious

01:30:41.960 debate episode is the most traumatic experience of her life uh i think she should probably consider

01:30:47.780 herself remarkably fortunate that that's the most traumatic if that didn't you say she'd been on

01:30:52.720 multiple times no oh no no she it was her first one traumatizing just one time yeah gotcha uh so

01:30:59.460 there's that uh but in in essence she's a liar she's um just it's all bullshit but we have part two

01:31:08.660 she followed up with a secondary video where she uh go ahead and play it

01:31:13.300 does she fake crying how many crocodile tears this is part two of my story of being harassed by incels

01:31:18.980 it is ruined my mental health so that i have the good lighting it's palsy i will not be naming names

01:31:23.920 specifically because again i am scared of these people but you what i was misled by these people

01:31:29.440 and told that she cried wait pause really quick she cried for two days pause pause pause pause pause pause

01:31:35.080 she cried for two days after this uh then she woke up with her face blah blah partially paralyzed

01:31:43.400 she was told there'd be a debate yeah that's exactly what we told her and not to be not told

01:31:49.720 that i'd be trapped in a room with two evil didn't you literally say we are not kidnapping you you are

01:31:53.900 free to leave oh speaking of which i'm actually gonna send uh i have so at two separate points

01:32:00.940 before her she actually leaves she got up and did a rage quit uh she literally got up from the table

01:32:10.060 and exited through the front door two times well three times counting the time she finally did

01:32:17.000 ultimately leave so this idea this claim that she was trapped completely exaggerated uh just typical

01:32:24.220 feminist hyperbole but pull it back up we'll play the rest

01:32:28.060 sure

01:32:31.340 jesus to california from chicago i was not and i have yet to receive any money i am out one thousand dollars

01:32:38.840 from my appearance on this podcast and still every day i am harassed by their fans online telling me

01:32:44.540 that i got owned when in reality i was disrespected blatantly to my face and made to feel unsafe these

01:32:49.340 people were talking about harming women they were drinking alcohol i was sober generally very

01:32:54.700 uncomfortable wait quiet quiet quiet guys please quiet because they kept trying to prolong my stay

01:33:02.620 longer and longer under the conditions in the contract that they wouldn't pay me into unless i

01:33:06.300 stayed till the end on the live stream people would send in money and be like ten dollars to put a sock in

01:33:11.500 her mouth slap the bitch twenty dollars and a bunch of other things obviously scared that they would take the

01:33:17.100 money and harm me at the end i don't i don't think brian needs ten bucks to slap somebody i just yeah

01:33:25.740 like millions of viewers what are you talking about there was no um i don't know this insinuation that

01:33:31.820 she would have been physically harmed again maybe i can even uh i might have to just post it to the discord

01:33:38.060 at some later point but we do have security camera footage we have security cameras throughout the

01:33:42.460 whole studio we believe you brian yeah she she got up multiple times she she claimed she was trapped

01:33:49.180 she literally went to the front door walked out to the front door walked around took the breather came

01:33:54.140 back did that multiple times uh as far as this thousand dollar number that's not the number that was

01:33:58.780 stipulated in the contract so i don't know why she's inflating the her damages to a thousand when

01:34:05.260 the agreement stated it was 650 she does conveniently leave out that the formal contract and agreement

01:34:12.220 that i had with her hinged on her uh full keyword full participation in the live stream nick if you

01:34:18.940 go to the discord there's a photo that you're going to pull up on that tab that's called the contract you

01:34:23.900 can't just like lease a vehicle and then halfway through be like yeah you know what i wanted standard

01:34:28.540 why i was lied and tricked right there was alcohol involved too guys this this girl this girl does

01:34:35.980 feminism stuff online right maybe she needs to stop if a debate is traumatic yeah don't put yourself

01:34:43.740 online to back up don't listen to any women's experiences you will be traumatized so so one of

01:34:48.860 the comments on the tick tock go find me she says i'm in contact with someone amazing but she's very

01:34:54.060 expensive concerned about financial aspects so she is renewing her legal threats here just wanted to

01:35:00.140 point that out we have a part three and now part three is the most uh there's there's five parts

01:35:08.060 in total so far but we're only going to do part three part four uh so part three though is the most

01:35:13.020 i think offensive and i think the women at the table find this quite offensive if she's suing does

01:35:18.300 she not realize that blasting it all over social media is harmful to her case oh yeah probably is

01:35:23.420 detrimental to i don't think she understands i don't think so uh all right let's play yeah part

01:35:28.140 three oh my god so before wait pause pause pause pause pause oh my god i'm offended immediately so

01:35:34.380 she says uh that she's responding to a comment i guess somebody in a previous uh previous video

01:35:40.140 said it's like a digital essay okay and then she says being on being on red pill media felt like being

01:35:46.220 essayed go ahead play it exactly what going on this podcast felt like made me feel violated

01:35:52.380 how about you try being actual disrespected and used in addition to them having me fly across

01:35:57.420 the country and front the bill myself with the promise of paying me back which they didn't i made

01:36:02.060 them so much money that they asked me to come back three times within 24 hours and when i told them

01:36:07.260 to pay me back they sent me a threatening abusive email false not abusive email i was harassed on

01:36:16.220 the basis of being a woman told that i was stupid talked over talked down to and i was

01:36:22.140 made to cry two three four times to cry to the back and just sobbed i really tried to stay to the

01:36:28.060 end because i wanted no you didn't for all the expenses but i couldn't i've done debate for nine

01:36:34.060 years so i know things could get heated that wasn't debate that that was assault i felt like i was

01:36:39.580 actually assaulted after the next day i've been assaulted twice and i woke up feeling that same sense of

01:36:45.180 sadness and violation and emptiness

01:36:51.420 are you joking this is i can't believe the audacity to be like the most traumatic thing i've ever been

01:36:58.300 through was debating andrew wilson and then be like i know exactly what it feels like to get

01:37:02.300 sexually assaulted and this is it like it's not audacity it's delusion

01:37:06.220 that's what's confusing to me because at the end of the video she says she'd been essayed actually

01:37:13.500 twice but then in her part one yeah the most traumatic it's the most traumatic thing so well

01:37:19.660 i would assume that i mean maybe the debate was particularly traumatic but uh that seems a bit

01:37:27.900 dubious but to even compare it right essay is a slap in the face to women who are actually

01:37:36.220 or anybody who's a victim of essay it's despicable um do you have any other further thoughts on that

01:37:41.820 chloe i mean that's the most idiotic thing i've ever seen i was gonna say you should let me debate

01:37:45.980 her but i don't think she's coming back here so i'd love to have you debate her that is insane

01:37:50.300 she needs to quit debating if it's true that's actually insanity i love how easy it is for like and

01:37:55.260 all the people in the comments like oh you poor soul let me start you a gofundme like if you're a

01:37:59.500 woman if you're like slightly made to be felt uncomfortable in a room with men let alone more

01:38:04.460 than one it's just that's it i'm s8 i've been digitally s8 like imagine that that's insane man

01:38:10.460 i want to know did she not know how long the podcast was going to be when she flew across

01:38:15.580 the country to come be on it oh she knew it's just her victim card so she couldn't stay an extra

01:38:21.980 30 minutes and then and then i watched the video she was claiming like um you know like physical

01:38:27.100 some sort of like disability or something like that and it's like you know you know that you have

01:38:33.500 that why don't you plan to be why don't you plan to be where you're supposed to be

01:38:39.580 for a lot of time something something i haven't revealed in any of my posts on twitter or in my discord

01:38:44.620 is the i think it was the day before it might have even been the day of so our meet time for the

01:38:50.860 debate was 3 p.m she was like um can we delay the start of our debate so i can like watch my

01:38:55.980 little sister's soccer game or something what which is just i mean not your problem not a huge

01:39:01.260 thing but it was just kind of like a weird thing leading into it it's just not your problem yeah and

01:39:05.100 there was a point where she's like well you guys your communication wasn't good i mean the thing is is

01:39:09.260 that i there might have been not a conversation about like the length of it but uh that wouldn't

01:39:18.540 necessarily reflect a miscommunication on our part she could have asked what the length is and i think

01:39:25.740 otherwise you would have to by default assume the length of the debate is going to be the length of

01:39:31.820 the other debates that they've had on the show which all tend to be three to four hours yeah it

01:39:37.340 just sounds like she didn't research she didn't research she was debating she didn't nothing she's

01:39:41.740 like if you look at y'all's youtube for just a moment you can tell that most of your live streams

01:39:47.740 are very very long yeah um so like i expect to be here until midnight or later if you need to be

01:39:54.220 also we don't know her we don't know her mental state before she came here so i just think some

01:39:58.460 people just feel like when they're feeling like they're losing or super uncomfortable they just tend

01:40:02.940 to like kind of crash out that way like maybe she just crashed out totally crash out definitely crash

01:40:07.980 out yeah but putting putting two men's like reputations on the line just so you can victimize

01:40:12.540 yourself i think is uh pretty uh irresponsible actually and then comparing it to sexual assault

01:40:18.780 is like yeah are you okay are you okay being back into a corner and debate or a conversation is

01:40:24.620 literally not the same right yeah actually being backed into a corner

01:40:30.700 i don't think she'd even compare it if she had actually been essayed ever yeah yeah and then she

01:40:35.660 said she was sexually assaulted with her tits out so i'm like does that matter that was my thought

01:40:39.260 too i'm like you know about being violated but your boobs are out but she has the good lighting yeah

01:40:44.380 she's like i feel i'm glad you said that don't sexually assault me but yeah there's please don't

01:40:49.260 like there there's a lot of rewriting of what actually happened what the truth is in her accounting

01:40:55.900 of the whole situation uh in addition to that uh the first video she posted the part one that we

01:41:02.620 watched it got like 1.2 million views and yeah all the comments were and even on some of these

01:41:08.060 follow-ups which did not get as many views but the comments are like overwhelmingly supportive

01:41:12.940 even though she's presented really no evidence she's just saying this is the case this is what

01:41:16.700 happened uh super supportive oh my god you should sue blah blah blah and uh so a lot of uh

01:41:24.380 because a lot of tiktok co-signing yeah she ended up gaining she ended up gaining something like 25 000

01:41:31.340 followers because of her whining and crying about this so uh but she did make the claim that the

01:41:37.820 emails i sent her were abusive i'd like can you read those emails yeah i'll pull it up i would like to

01:41:44.700 provide some uh some information on that the emails that i sent her were not out of the blue they were

01:41:53.100 in fact in response to her initiating and making legal threats and they were certainly not abusive

01:41:59.740 they were measured and proportionate legal responses to her legal threats go ahead and pull up the discord

01:42:06.780 you're going to pull up the uh statement that she made go ahead no discord discord discord discord

01:42:14.460 yeah this one uh you're gonna have to can you make it bigger you might have to pop it out

01:42:18.380 yeah you're gonna have to pop it out i can't read it uh actually if you go to the yeah just pop it out

01:42:26.780 do you know how to do it one sec guys here okay that's fine here while you're doing that chair uh pop

01:42:33.740 out both of them lucas thank you man chair seven i hope my memory is not failing me but last time you

01:42:38.860 were oh my god okay hold on i'll read it later she just got up that's annoying um pen maker i'm divorced

01:42:47.020 in wa state trust me this woman is the okay never mind here we'll come back we'll come back to it

01:42:52.060 uh you got it okay pull it up all right so this was a couple days after the

01:43:00.460 this was a couple days after the debate hi brian way to set me up per our agreement send 650 to my

01:43:07.900 venmo immediately if i don't hear from you by tomorrow end of day i will assume that you do not

01:43:13.580 plan to honor our agreement which felt like that was your plan all along couldn't be the furthest

01:43:20.060 this is my side note here couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth uh we've had plenty of debates

01:43:24.860 you're welcome to ask any of the other people who we've had on for the debates where we do offer

01:43:29.340 some compensation uh naima naima naima zina a lot of these people we we've compensated them we pay them

01:43:39.340 pretty much immediately like right after the show uh this will be my only attempt she continues though

01:43:44.620 this will be my only attempt to collect if i do not hear from you or you attempt to disparage my

01:43:49.820 attempts to receive payment online i'll be handling this handing this matter over to my family attorney

01:43:55.340 she will then contact you this week it's your choice but with how unethical your business model is

01:44:01.260 i'd suggest that you take this as a gesture of courtesy to avoid future legal proceedings to which

01:44:08.540 i respond can you explain how i set you up she didn't because i was confused how exactly we set

01:44:17.420 her up also during the show you stated someone contacted you and offered you the payment for you

01:44:22.060 to walk off and leave early since you did leave early didn't you in fact receive this payment from

01:44:26.300 third party to which she disregards both of my questions and responds by saying tomorrow's offer

01:44:32.060 is off the table please do not continue to harass i don't i can't see how either of my messages were

01:44:38.460 harassing but do not contact me any further i'm retaining uh ex-lawyer please direct all future

01:44:45.260 correspondence to ex-lawyers email her phone number blank she will reach out and then i say please respond

01:44:51.740 please see my response to your baseless legal threats via email to which uh i send an email if

01:44:58.060 you can pull that up all right to kylie uh miss brewer in response to your baseless legal threats made

01:45:07.020 via instagram your demand for 650 is categorically rejected while there was an agreement regarding your

01:45:14.860 full keyword full participation in the live stream you materially breached that agreement through your

01:45:20.300 conduct repeatedly walking off during the broadcast derailing the event with meta conversation and

01:45:25.900 other disruptive commentary and ultimately leaving the show early you demonstrably did not participate

01:45:31.420 in good faith more troubling is your own on record statement during the live stream that someone

01:45:37.260 contacted you and offered you money to walk off the show which you ultimately did do at their behest

01:45:43.660 this admission raises serious questions about whether you entered into the agreement in good faith

01:45:48.300 and whether third parties were involved in encouraging you to sabotage the production if true this directly

01:45:54.620 implicate implicates you in potential tortious interference i go on to you know make more

01:46:02.140 references to the tortious interference claim given your misconduct and baseless threat of legal action

01:46:08.220 i am also demanding that you cease your harassment and affirm immediately that you do not intend to pursue

01:46:14.220 any legal claim or further demands related to this matter uh given given that she gave us one day to

01:46:20.700 rectify the legal situation i thought it appropriate to give her about three hours uh so you have until

01:46:26.300 5 p.m pacific today to do so if you fail to do so or if you or your council initiate any action i will

01:46:32.380 pursue counter claims for breach of contract tortious interference and any other relief available under the law we are

01:46:39.740 confident our damages exceed yours best regards brian atlas whatever podcast very abusive email i wish i

01:46:50.460 got abused so abusive very abusive what school she went to to get that certificate you should sue her

01:46:56.940 you should count her sue her because if she is a family lawyer that means they got money sue her could be

01:47:01.980 uh there are a lot of uh we'll play the final clip here if you can play the last one part four

01:47:08.540 there's more and this is this is the final one so she also gave you an ultimatum and it was

01:47:14.220 threatening that's what that was her message to you on instagram false allegations there was an ultimatum and

01:47:21.020 threatening language yeah and but i would not take her her message as abusive she's accusing you of

01:47:28.380 doing what she's doing right exactly i i she's doing what she's accusing you of doing i would say

01:47:33.820 i would say that my response was not quite as uh belligerent as hers was and it was in response to

01:47:41.820 hers professionally uh so it was like chat gpc covered your ass for sure well how much is she

01:47:47.180 like is she suing you for 650 or a thousand play play the next clip she made more for oh god

01:47:54.940 her boobs are up again wow this is the final clip more buzzwords oh i see that

01:48:01.020 kylean i really need your help whatever you're doing watch this video please i need your support

01:48:05.260 because i have become a red pill target a couple months ago i received a message on my instagram

01:48:08.780 account that has since been suspended because of mass false reporting by these people asking me to come

01:48:13.180 on a podcast for a debate they were incredibly kind created a contract and promised that they

01:48:17.260 would pay me back for it i did debate throughout my life including at an ivy league school so i know

01:48:21.820 that i can handle my own with facts and with also my boys so i fly across the country i show up only

01:48:27.100 to be verbally degraded and verbally assaulted by their chat who kept pitching 10 20 30 dollars to

01:48:32.540 slap the bitch put a sock in my mouth all these other things that being said predators are good

01:48:37.500 at what they do so stop asking people why they showed up to things why they wore this thing why

01:48:43.900 whatever because none of those things matter to the predator they are good at making themselves seem

01:48:49.500 very docile and gentle to lure you in it's a trap so if you're a woman do not go on a podcast ever

01:48:57.820 any network that has a mostly male audience i don't care what they promise you or how much money

01:49:02.700 they plan to ambush you this is this is the most manipulative thing i've actually ever seen in my

01:49:09.580 life this girl has used multiple buzzwords and is just trying to ask for help immediately too i mean

01:49:15.340 i need your help they're predators they add like what a disservice how rude this is why women have such

01:49:21.820 a hard time already be taken seriously because like a woman will like go on and say imagine how

01:49:26.540 many people saw that and then the next time they see a woman like actually asking for help they're

01:49:31.100 gonna think back to that and be like like if you watch the actual podcast like stream on youtube like

01:49:38.940 she's the one putting herself into a state of panic they're being completely calm they're being

01:49:42.940 really respectful like she says she want to leave he's just like hey can you take five more minutes

01:49:47.900 but instead like how can you say that somebody being a little bit

01:49:53.420 against how you live your life a little bit abrasive causes you face paralysis

01:49:58.380 yeah that girl went to the dentist and said i have a cavity i don't know where but

01:50:02.700 line block me i need to look like i have facial correctness oh my god she looks like she's like

01:50:08.860 probably like 10x vaxxed so apparently i'm pretty sure the it's the the vaccines that can actually

01:50:16.140 cause that but wait what in a video game what in a video game but uh but look she's a professional

01:50:24.380 victim she's a liar and she's the embodiment of everything that is wrong with feminism she's

01:50:30.780 privileged she went to an ivy league school oh yeah she has she has 150 iq she said she had been

01:50:37.660 debating for nine years and she went to an ivy league school brown i think it was brown university

01:50:44.380 that's what these ivy league schools in the united states this is what you produce

01:50:48.060 is is professional victims uh so debating for nine years does not what class

01:50:56.140 well especially if she feels emotionally sexually assaulted clearly she did not

01:51:00.300 debate after debating for nine years youtube video one more time wow i just want to find the part

01:51:05.260 there's a part where she comes back she comes back from the table and she says that she makes the

01:51:11.580 admission that somebody offered to pay her the money uh so i'm gonna there's a time stamp that you can

01:51:17.020 probably find i'm gonna look for it too it is uh look at look at both of your faces if if you

01:51:23.180 nick put it on the video tab again oh wait where's the time stamp wait what my goal is to make pearl

01:51:29.340 davis ridge quit like that oh yeah that's my uh do you think i can do it brad possibly i support that goal

01:51:37.660 wait hold on i genuinely feel bad for her because she just didn't come prepared i think that's what it

01:51:42.220 was just very prepared i think she wasn't ready for andrew yeah i don't think she was ready for

01:51:48.620 that might have even like planned to come and be offended like yeah exactly exactly you have to

01:51:54.460 plan for that i'm gonna take them down yeah if you watch one video you know what their yeah

01:51:59.900 their temperaments are like you know exactly how they talk to people i don't think it was that i think

01:52:05.020 she thought she was prepared and when she was faced with not actually being able to logically

01:52:10.460 back up her beliefs right right she had a meltdown 228 14. this really might have ruined her life

01:52:17.660 i deal with those every day yeah all right uh or maybe scrub it back like 10 seconds 228 10. okay go

01:52:25.340 ahead play it you just look so unhappy if the argument you're making then no oh dude yeah 220 uh

01:52:33.740 uh what was it 228 10. go ahead

01:52:42.140 i've actually had someone offer to pay me because i'm assuming if i leave early you won't pay me so

01:52:46.620 but i've had someone in my comments offer to pay me the amount that i was paid to be here so i'm gonna

01:52:51.260 go because i i get i have medical problems i'm not feeling good what if somebody's in our chat she's

01:52:56.940 acknowledging that she's breaking the contract yeah and what why does she need the money from you guys to

01:53:01.740 pay for it if it was paid for by somebody else she's trying to double dip she's double dipping

01:53:05.500 literally anyways uh that's pretty much the update if anything else you know happens whatever i'm

01:53:12.540 considering i don't know chat there's a lot of there's a little defamation slander do it going on

01:53:17.900 do the shit out of her make an example out of her if you're gonna come on and make yourself look

01:53:22.540 like an idiot do it at your own i don't even like we haven't even talked about like how it must feel

01:53:27.340 for andrew and brian to it's very traumatic very traumatic yeah yeah i am like if anything y'all

01:53:33.900 y'all are the trauma you need she's abusive it's it's she abused me i think it's it's reactionary

01:53:40.060 abuse oh yes believe all brian's i do need therapy like and to be involved every single week to be

01:53:47.660 embalmed by chloe by chloe she should pay for your therapy after by the way guys use code whatever

01:53:53.660 for chloe's embalming services 20 off use code don't it up please you get a pre-order um kylie can

01:54:02.460 get a 50 discount uh so anyways that's pretty much the update uh i'm trying to think if there's anything

01:54:07.580 else in one of her updates she's like we got to take them down uh wait let me see if there's hold

01:54:12.700 on let me just double check did she dox you guys as well was she the one that doxed you guys oh here it

01:54:17.020 is uh did she she did no no no um nick pull up the discord it's part four it's the image from

01:54:24.220 part four in the wall of whatever this is just the last thing then we'll move it back to the uh

01:54:31.420 the rest of the show so this is just the description for part four please help me get my story out there

01:54:36.380 these people are preying on young women calling all journalists blah blah blah please help me take

01:54:42.060 these people down oh no chat is this hold on let me see is there insurrection is there a sound bite

01:54:50.140 for this i'm looking for a sound bite let's see who i got i need some like some war path yo chat this is

01:54:56.380 the war path boys she wants to take us down uh you know maybe we gotta just uh i don't know there's some

01:55:03.820 slander uh because here's the thing right she's claiming we didn't pay her which is technically true

01:55:10.380 but she's conveniently omitting that she breached the contract she basically said to you guys you

01:55:16.460 don't have to pay me because someone else is paying me so it's like avoiding your contract yeah yeah

01:55:23.580 it doesn't make sense so but then people who might come on the podcast they see that they're like wow

01:55:29.260 they screw over their people blah blah it's like people who don't know you guys are like wow these

01:55:32.940 predators yeah crazy crazy y'all aren't always the nicest people in the world but you're certainly not a

01:55:38.700 predator i mean i definitely think there's some points where like some language can be thrown

01:55:45.020 around that seems abrasive but it's always like in order to have a conversation it's not like they're

01:55:52.220 not just like picking out one person on the table and being like we don't like you we're gonna make

01:55:57.020 fun of you i'm gonna digitally sexually assault you today nine years of debating you should be prepared

01:56:02.700 for that right yeah yeah yeah yeah i call i call bs i don't i don't think she's been doing nine years

01:56:08.380 of debating i don't think she's ever been that's cat maybe i do agree that she's never been through

01:56:12.700 trauma all right what's the most traumatic thing that ever happened to her for sure we have a message

01:56:19.020 here from the dad advocate oh lauren i love you girl shout out to you thank you brian is being the

01:56:26.700 ultimate brat tamer today shout out roma based dad advocate thank you very much for your uh message

01:56:32.140 i love you thank you thank you and uh is that is that the the dad advocate yeah she's another she's

01:56:40.300 a fellow men's rights advocate she uh she predominantly advocates for fathers and uh their rights and uh she's

01:56:47.500 just fantastic you can't you can't dislike her if you dislike her something's wrong with you hating

01:56:52.380 me i get it but lauren come on she's a sweetheart rock and roll all right we have oh matt he says this

01:56:58.940 is sparta oh yeah this is sparta boom thank you matt appreciate it uh lucas writes chair seven that's you

01:57:08.220 kate i hope my memory is not failing me but last time you were full of piercings i also remember

01:57:12.780 providing you with some pointed albeit a genuine critique advising you to lose the christmas ornaments

01:57:18.380 from your face giving your search for a successful traditional masculine man i commend your makeover

01:57:24.380 thank you thanks for the backhanded compliment oh lucas roma was not a fan of your super chat no

01:57:31.660 it's fine it was just i was backhanded was it not am i tripping pen maker with the hundred thank you

01:57:36.780 for the super chat i'm divorced and in w uh washington state trust me this woman is the norm here the

01:57:42.780 child support laws are insane i had to go to school full-time and work full-time all while

01:57:48.140 having split custody just to use the gi bill to avoid a negative income this straight state creates

01:57:55.580 monsters from pen maker thank you for the super chat man i agree with that i think that when men get

01:58:01.660 divorced they typically uh suffer financially and uh socially and when women get divorced they get

01:58:07.340 subsidized and that needs to be fixed based america based in yeah all right let's get back into the

01:58:16.140 actual show though uh let's see okay so we did everybody's relationship status i i was curious so just

01:58:22.620 show of hands who here is currently single show of hands are you currently single all right uh

01:58:30.940 when's the last time you had carnal knowledge

01:58:34.620 what what are we are we counting no penetration p in the v oh my god

01:58:44.940 you were talking about last night no i didn't have sex last night um

01:58:51.900 probably right before i came to california so a couple days ago yeah

01:58:55.580 i don't know it was last week some point i don't remember okay i don't remember is it like

01:59:04.060 because we do like of and stuff is it like out of that right are we talking

01:59:08.140 are we talking filming wait y'all for money yeah well i mean we collab with other content

01:59:13.980 that's for money you can you can say collaborating but that's that's for money let's be

01:59:19.180 it pays my bill let's call it but are we counting that or are we just counting like off camera yeah

01:59:23.820 let's do both let's say for work and then for funsies i guess same day work and funsies like two weeks

01:59:31.500 ago yeah yeah different guys oh wait two different guys same day um i think so one in the morning

01:59:39.500 one in the afternoon afternoons and light okay what about what about you guys um i mean mine was it

01:59:45.180 it was the same guy but it was just funsies one night and then the next night it was a live stream

01:59:49.260 and filming oh same with you yeah okay you're you're single yeah single three months so it's been

01:59:54.940 three months what about oh single three months so it's been three months i'm gonna have to skip

01:59:59.180 that question because i don't think that's appropriate to share with the entire world

02:00:03.420 yeah i'm engaged i will not be talking well no but you're it's just for the single

02:00:07.420 single girls oh thank god okay because because uh well kate i mean have you been seeing a

02:00:12.860 guy since the last time you were on the show no no okay do you want would you be more

02:00:17.260 comfortable saying how long you've been celibate it's been probably a year and a half

02:00:23.980 oh you're in a while good for you girl all right basically the same question i don't know i don't

02:00:29.420 know if i should clap for you or like

02:00:33.980 it's a bit more palatable all right um because some of you said you're single right but i mean you

02:00:39.580 guys are are you know involved some of you are involved with a guy in a sexual capacity

02:00:47.980 or multiple but you're not but yeah or multiple guys wait multiple guys yeah yeah you guys get

02:00:54.140 regular std checks like do you just have them beside your bed every two weeks and go and get a

02:01:00.300 regular test yeah blood urine and rectal and oral swab every 10 days i guess every 10 days

02:01:09.180 every 10 days every 10 to 10 days at least at least you're all responsible if i'm actually

02:01:14.220 shooting i usually go every two weeks you have a partner right yeah you do with your partner um

02:01:18.380 typically we have been shooting with each other for the past couple months but uh recently i have

02:01:23.260 been in town this week shooting with uh some other friends who are in the industry as well and he's okay

02:01:28.220 with that he loves it he's usually my cameraman we both write direct film edit like um sorry would you

02:01:36.940 you guys consider yourselves like polyamorous or is there an exception because we would be ethically

02:01:41.420 non-monogamous right um damn we so like if we are able to talk about what we're doing for you know

02:01:49.420 work if we're shooting for only fans or mini bids or something like that you know we're very honest

02:01:54.780 about it uh this is an intercourse isn't really i don't know intimacy is what we care about we don't

02:02:03.180 i don't care if he goes and has sex with somebody right he doesn't care if i do that as long as we

02:02:06.780 talk about it as long as i'm honest same so there's no jealousy but if there's intimacy with somebody

02:02:11.660 else then there's jealousy and there is jealousy even with working with somebody but i turn i i try

02:02:17.660 to turn my jealousy into motivation to be better how do you draw the line between intimacy and just

02:02:23.740 sex is it like a look or like no kissing no like yeah um just eat my vagina and like that is something

02:02:29.340 that we are working on kind of defining the borders of more but because situationally like things can

02:02:34.700 just be so much up in the air and so random um as long as we talk to each other it for me it's not

02:02:41.340 something where we have to ask permission it's something where we let our partner know that we're

02:02:45.740 going to do something right or that we have done something and we give them all the information so

02:02:50.300 always before you do it with somebody else you have to you talk about it you try to i mean i i kept

02:02:55.100 him updated on every single one of my shoots he wished me luck like i sent him videos he likes it you

02:03:00.860 know does it impact your guys's intimacy i think it it furthers it i think it makes it more intense

02:03:06.940 because we we have such a trust in each other such a understanding that no matter what we are living in

02:03:15.100 a home together we are sleeping in the same bed together and we are building our future together

02:03:18.860 and how long you guys been together for a year now um but it was kind of those that situation

02:03:25.020 where you meet and you're like all right i'm done this guy and were you guys both like in the you

02:03:30.460 guys both came into the relationship already in the industry you guys already i i have been in it since

02:03:35.180 i was around 18 um he had always wanted to do it but again he has a big boy job that is like a full-time

02:03:43.100 career that he's been working on and cultivating his all these years before me and so for now like

02:03:50.380 he's focusing on that and more so creative projects with photography and filmography um like we tried to

02:03:58.060 do where he was helping me run my page and making his own content to run his own page and it was just

02:04:04.460 too much it became very stressful for him to go to work come home have to do more work and then do

02:04:10.460 more work so that's kind of why like almost every two weeks like i'll come out to la and i'll hang out

02:04:17.900 my friends who are all in the core industry as well and we'll shoot together hang out go back and i'll

02:04:24.700 spend two weeks editing and promoting and he'll help me with that stuff as well do you plan on like

02:04:29.180 exiting at some point and if one of you wants to exit and the other one doesn't how does that

02:04:33.500 work so i chose this job because at any point if i want to i can say don't need to do it anymore

02:04:40.540 i have enough knowledge and enough tools in my belt to be able to afford me any job that i would

02:04:46.860 like to other than you know like big time jobs that you need a certificate or a diploma for

02:04:52.140 like i can make sure that i'm good without the core industry have you ever had any leaks

02:04:58.460 leaks is there anything leaked on you on the internet everything um i mean everything yeah

02:05:03.420 i mean i'm out there do you think do you believe that you'll be able to get a good career after

02:05:08.620 should you want to with stuff being leaked because most fields won't so the career that we're choosing

02:05:13.980 together is one in which we create like a production company and and bring like a more safe

02:05:19.500 space for corn industry people for creatives for models to come in so when you quit that's what

02:05:27.740 you would be doing is like advising other people i would probably quit whenever we decide to have

02:05:34.780 children um because i find it immoral and unethical to do corn or be in the you know sex industry

02:05:42.940 while having a child in your home i don't think that's okay i agree and also to that point i don't

02:05:49.660 think that it's okay to work with children and then go home and do that and post that on the

02:05:54.940 play hide the household vegetables up your cooter that's yeah are you not worried that even if you

02:06:00.060 quit after you've had children all that stuff will still be on the internet and your kids will still see

02:06:04.220 it because it will they might yeah um that's something that i had to understand whenever i came

02:06:09.100 into this industry is that this is a choice that i am making to put myself out there and no matter how

02:06:14.620 hard i try there will still be stuff out there and how old are you but i will make sure my child

02:06:20.620 my children know that you know sex work whatever it's it's fine it's not something that needs to be

02:06:30.460 vilified so why why does having the kids then make it immoral but if you don't have them it's not

02:06:35.420 because there's not a child in my home but if you're like like as in if you're going outside

02:06:41.980 your home and filming it as in why does it matter there's a lot of people especially um that's a

02:06:47.180 really good point there's a lot of people especially popular people on tiktok and on youtube and and all

02:06:52.380 that stuff who are openly like polyamorous and content creators and they will bring people over to

02:06:59.260 their home where they have a red room and oh it's soundproof so they're not gonna know who you're

02:07:04.940 talking about i think you do i think you talked about them actually if you're not doing that why

02:07:10.540 does it make a difference if there's kids in the house or not if you're going to a studio again i

02:07:14.540 don't have a child but that's my why if you're not filming in your house why does having a child

02:07:21.260 make the difference between whether or not it's immoral um i i don't know i think i just think it's

02:07:27.820 kind of weird to like go do a bunch of sex stuff and then go home and hold your baby and i think

02:07:32.540 well not not that there's anything wrong with that but i just think it's

02:07:36.620 like if i'm gonna be a mom i'm gonna be a mom and i don't need to go and be like

02:07:43.420 a little hoe running around the street but you'll be okay editing those videos and then going home

02:07:49.180 and holding your baby well no that's what i'm saying she said she would quit when she had children but

02:07:54.380 what you also said that i found interesting was that you don't want to raise your children to have

02:07:58.700 any sort of stigma around the sex work industry my mother uh i'm from the bible belt and so there's

02:08:04.460 a huge like everybody's against progress there um main reason i moved out here but i was lucky with

02:08:11.500 my mom to an extent of which she she never like made me believe in christianity she never

02:08:19.180 made me be straight like i when i came out as bi she was like i know

02:08:22.780 you know that's cool what tell me something new you know like so in regards to the children though

02:08:28.940 you said that you would be more um what's the word progressive with your children when it comes

02:08:33.580 to sex work it's no problem i don't think it's something my four-year-old needs to know about

02:08:37.180 but you know as they get older sorry excuse me but then why quit if it's okay enough like if your

02:08:43.100 daughter was like 18 and came to you and was like mom i want to strip this is a good question and you

02:08:48.060 would support that why quit in the first place like don't you think you should carry that out

02:08:52.780 and be like mom does this but mom is all these different things or just what i'm just confused

02:08:57.020 on the difference i guess i think it's it comes down to maturity of the child and what they can't

02:09:02.300 understand and the way that you give that information to them if like if if you never talk to them about

02:09:09.660 it and they go out and they watch a show like this or you know like another another show where

02:09:15.340 it's a bunch of like actual misogyny and people stating that girls that do certain things will

02:09:22.540 only ever do those things like i think that's a way to get misinformation and to lead your child down

02:09:29.020 like a path in which they don't know what what's going on in the world around them like so you would

02:09:34.140 say that here's your options but i would prefer you do something else like would you not care if my

02:09:39.260 child was interested even if you know at 18 whatever and they're out of the house if they wanted to do

02:09:43.980 dancing i would hope that they would take it seriously as a sport and try to be the best

02:09:50.780 dancer that they could be not i'm gonna go dance because i can make a thousand dollars but isn't

02:09:55.740 that the bonnie blue mentality because bonnie blue is kind of like wow you know whores exist so why not

02:10:01.740 be the best it literally is it's an extreme sport at this point with how many dicks she's taken

02:10:07.260 like come on is that what you want for your daughter um i mean would you want her to go

02:10:14.940 sleep with a thousand guys in one day it's not really my choice i know but i'm asking if you were

02:10:19.420 a mother if you had a daughter and she came to you and she said hey guess what mom i'm gonna do this

02:10:25.020 challenge where i go let a hundred guys you know stick it in me raw dog i mean bonnie would that be

02:10:31.340 something that would make you like how would you feel about that um i think for me my child's life

02:10:40.540 is my child's life if they're 16 and they want to go do a bunch of weird stuff no but like it's not

02:10:45.500 gonna bother you if your kid wants to do something that's harmful i think i think the whole discussion

02:10:50.940 comes to like are they still living in the house with me am i still paying for them but would you

02:10:54.860 want that for your child if if if you don't say i feel like saying i'm sorry i feel like saying like

02:11:00.700 you know uh it's their choice is either disingenuous or i would say you're just not a mom yet and you

02:11:07.820 don't have i would say no i wouldn't i wouldn't want it for my child because i know how long it took

02:11:13.420 me to get to do it safely and to do it without being like manic like and just going and doing stuff

02:11:23.580 like i'm doing stuff in a very safe way with friends that i've had for years like i barely i

02:11:29.420 barely ever bring in new co-stars to my videos like obviously it's not different than bonnie blue

02:11:35.980 or something like we're all doing the same thing

02:11:44.460 this is a 999 conversation yeah good points thank you guys that was fun thanks for sharing

02:11:51.420 it's coming it's right there there we go gotta wiggle it a little bit uh who wants me everybody's

02:12:10.060 champagne oh yeah wait just uh just you you don't want any kate do you want champagne yeah i'll have

02:12:16.540 some champagne okay so one two three four five six seven eight okay cool i have some

02:12:21.580 supporting each other's mouths you guys can continue on with the convo while i'm doing that

02:12:27.020 my my right you thank you man i think my end answer to that question is i would make sure that my child

02:12:33.340 knows everything that i know and that i have experienced and what i have gone through so that then

02:12:39.660 they can make their own decision on if they want to put themselves in those vulnerable situations

02:12:43.820 so if you wouldn't want your daughter to really do it why would you do it yourself well i'm now i'm

02:12:51.980 at a point where it it's safer and i am doing it in a healthy way with my partner um there was a time

02:13:01.100 whenever i really wasn't i was putting myself like i was escorting and i was bringing a bunch of random

02:13:07.420 people back um to my to my home literally bringing random people back to my home and yeah that's just

02:13:14.700 i was i was being a little you know three or four out there just slanging to to get the money yeah

02:13:23.500 but i was also under the influence of the whole only fans girl crisis where they're like girl boss

02:13:29.820 you you don't need no man if anyone disagrees they're insecure if you pay me like that type of

02:13:35.660 stuff i was in that that mindset and also unmedicated for bipolar so that did not help at all type one

02:13:43.180 or two one luckily some of my family wasn't lucky um well but you want your daughter to like

02:13:51.580 try like freshly 18 like you just want them to go straight into only fans or do i've already said

02:13:57.580 i all right hold on really quick uh okay uh ryu 2985 cheers to you ryu thank you so much man

02:14:08.540 cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers oh it's just a metaphorical cheers

02:14:17.100 um what you were saying though like not to talk not to talk down or anything i'm sorry but like

02:14:23.340 wouldn't you want her to like try i for me like i tried so many things before even going to only

02:14:28.780 fans and if i had a daughter i would be like why like why do you want to go straight to only fans like

02:14:32.780 try some different things and if that's really what you want that's what you want but i'm guessing

02:14:36.860 that by the time i actually have a child that uh you know only only fans and all that stuff it won't

02:14:42.380 be as hype as it is now it will go back to just being but what does that mean like it'll be more

02:14:48.380 socially acceptable no i think i think it's like sensationalized now like the life of an of girl

02:14:55.340 the life of a bop you know like for i don't really know how to answer that question honestly because

02:15:03.100 i'm not in the future with my baby but i like for me i was raised up doing hard work manual labor

02:15:10.860 working jobs in which my hands got dirty and i got sore every single day i would want my child to

02:15:16.700 you know obviously tell me what their interests are and then i can help them cultivate those

02:15:21.420 into something that will bring them a career i think the underlying issue is like the societal

02:15:26.620 kind of erosion of the role of a woman perhaps like now women have more access to different

02:15:31.500 types of jobs i am going to sorry finish your point but i'm going to switch topic after you

02:15:35.900 including like you know using your body for money i mean that's one of the oldest books for women

02:15:40.140 specifically so that's just a broader conversation i mean it's more accessible but is it better for

02:15:45.660 like you and your baby and then society more generally hold on sorry yeah that was the

02:15:49.900 final that was interesting final thing there um but specifically for you jemma uh i i always do a

02:15:56.620 little bit of you know i look at people's social media platforms when i invite them on the show

02:16:02.060 i noticed on your twitter that you engaged in a public sex act at some festival

02:16:07.740 uh there's a nick pull up the or pull up the the foot there's a photo pull it up please out of

02:16:15.020 festival it's it's obviously it's edited it's edited it's edited don't worry okay all right so i've cropped

02:16:24.220 it but make it bigger please and make us right big right big please in sources hide right small please

02:16:36.540 okay uh so you're wearing like a dog mask you're a gimp suit is this in san francisco or something where

02:16:43.020 is this this is in san fran okay so what isn't shown because i cropped it the full video shows it

02:16:49.660 it you are pegging him with a strap on and then you're giving him a reach around and his penis is

02:16:57.260 exposed to dozens if not hundreds of people who are walking by but is that some sort of pride so

02:17:03.660 it does happen down here i thought that was just canadian propaganda y'all actually

02:17:09.900 know it happens yes they do this isn't a pride event this is an event called folsom street fair

02:17:16.540 it is completely blocked off to folsom um it's like a cup it's like a big block party it it's it's

02:17:23.340 intense it's it's a crazy debaucherous yeah like so so i get that but um i mean damn girl are you into

02:17:33.340 bdsm yeah she's a dom she said that oh okay i mean so a core tenant of bdsm is consent yeah

02:17:42.060 right and so so whenever you're engaging in a kink out in public the other people can't consent so

02:17:48.060 they consented by going to the event that's just to be clear the event overtly exclude uh not

02:17:55.660 overtly uh what's the term for states explicitly thank you explicitly states that by the way people

02:18:03.500 are going to be having sex in public yes it's it's no it's it's kind of like a cultish following

02:18:09.900 honestly for it and are there barricades yeah like it it's all blocked off in security um you have to

02:18:17.180 pay entry uh honestly there's a lot of stuff there that was way out of my comfort zone um i

02:18:25.420 i i thought i was freaky and then i went there and i was like you're pegging a guy in the middle

02:18:30.620 of the street one i'm sorry and he's another creator whatever you're saying i i'm familiar

02:18:36.940 that there's i'm familiar that there's a festival i refuse to believe that a government body is going

02:18:44.220 to grant a festival a permit where there's going to be public sex in the streets there's occurring

02:18:50.540 i'll i'll tell you this there's california that might happen stuff maybe um

02:18:58.300 i'm not really sure about like the legislation on why they allow that type of stuff who's they

02:19:03.020 who is allowing i'm guess san francisco's but if i looked up the festival i heard they're pretty

02:19:07.820 liberal up there totally it's it's kind of like it's a historical event that they're trying to keep

02:19:13.980 going but i don't i don't know if i agree with keeping it going historically sexy yeah what's the

02:19:19.740 name of the festival fulsome street fest or fair fulsome street fair that's in fulsome or in san

02:19:25.900 francisco because it's in san francisco okay yeah that's why i prefer things like expats because at

02:19:30.940 least like the whole hotel is rented out by people in the street uh can i be nude at your events uh

02:19:37.340 okay it says yes you may be naked uh is there any explicit warning for not bringing kids or

02:19:42.940 something like no kids are not allowed yeah okay okay hold on oh my god so hold on uh hold on hold

02:19:49.100 on hold on hold on here nick you can pull this up if you want to reference it please pull it up fast

02:19:54.460 okay all right so it's the faq uh so can you be new to the events yes okay apparently that is allowed

02:20:01.740 at the event according to the organizers uh click can you be nude at the events make it bigger please

02:20:07.340 can i bring bigger like zoom in yeah uh and then uh what is the policy on sexual activity if you

02:20:15.740 want to right that's a good question click that one they have that uh fulsome street follows all

02:20:20.060 local state and federal laws to the best of our ability and intervenes in any discovered instances

02:20:24.620 of lewd behavior we have implemented and continue to enforce a three strikes policy on public sexual

02:20:29.660 activity step one verbal warning security team may stop you and ask you to take your take your given

02:20:35.020 activity okay masturbation blah blah indoors to an appropriate local establishment step two

02:20:39.820 ejection from the fair step three citation uh they will turn the matter over to the sfpd uh i think

02:20:46.220 this is probably a bit of a gray area because i mean they do allow the nudity but for their own policy

02:20:51.660 there is like uh oh and you are also uh there was a separate video i saw where you you were s-ing the d

02:20:58.140 of some dude but i like you so much why i know was it a free video did you at least get paid for

02:21:09.820 that on that video i mean like even one was with another content creator that i know and the other

02:21:15.340 was with my partner okay that was the craziest out like public thing i've ever done were you high

02:21:22.620 i'm in shock okay okay but it literally says it literally says the rules okay so they don't allow

02:21:30.380 people to just fuck in the screen there's also like in san francisco they do that yeah

02:21:35.580 it's just the legal language so there's also like men sitting in kiddie pools full of

02:21:41.420 urine and there's like there's like demonstrations where people are like doing sexual acts like very

02:21:49.740 very very obvious okay so it's an event coordinate it's like a sex club it's kind of like you can

02:21:57.660 you can do a little something but don't be egregious don't be don't i don't know how to explain

02:22:04.300 don't they're fine with nudity but they're quite clear on the sexual activity and they prohibit

02:22:09.180 sexual activity okay did anyone stop it they don't they don't it doesn't sound like it at all

02:22:16.460 a crowd gathered i mean i think we should be questioning the event coordinator not her

02:22:22.060 i mean i will say that event i don't know who is not for the for the girl at all yeah okay there's

02:22:29.420 people walking around crazy than me there's a clear delineation between a barrier walking around

02:22:35.580 naked and then pegging a dude while wearing like a cat or a dog face and he's in a gimp mask and

02:22:42.380 you're pegging him and you're giving him a reach around i miss the days when these things just stayed

02:22:47.740 in the bedroom man i was it was a very traumatic experience for me unfortunately i was

02:22:55.340 i'm sorry brian i'm sorry did he a jackalette no he did earlier whenever he was in a different

02:23:04.300 show imagine walking down the street and you step in some i would be scarred if i saw that i'd be like

02:23:10.780 ma'am you are paying for my therapy he's actually like a very large creator for your day if you step

02:23:16.140 in some some jizz that's a wrap i mean you can't have a good day after that it's over in seattle you're

02:23:21.820 gonna step in bum poop instead okay it's okay it's definitely it's so yeah i don't know which

02:23:27.660 is worse i feel like who knows anybody anyways i just wanted to point out your sex crime i guess

02:23:35.740 we have a sex crime

02:23:41.820 she you went back deep you went way back into my twitter so are you ready to have

02:23:47.340 that conversation with your child like when you do have your baby girl like this is what

02:23:51.340 mom was doing when she was like mommy what's he doing why is he dressed like a dog

02:23:55.100 it's gonna be me like yeah guys guys guys guys guys please one person speaking at a time go ahead

02:24:05.100 her dad should be responsible for explaining that to you like my dad no like when you guys have your

02:24:09.420 child like he should also be a part of that conversation i mean i don't think that's something

02:24:13.900 we'd bring up to them unless they found it and they were like hey ma is this you and i'd be like

02:24:18.620 like huh yep that's me is that a conversation you want to have though

02:24:28.300 why also why do you guys think my child would immediately want to go into like

02:24:32.700 adult industries no i'm not saying they want to i'm saying if they do come to you

02:24:38.940 can we like get it out of california i don't know brian are you in therapy yes

02:24:44.380 just making sure after all these podcasts that you're seeing oh yeah yeah it's very traumatic

02:24:50.300 we don't assume your kids want to go into sex work it's just that like they will find you on the

02:24:54.940 on the internet eventually yeah and it's really hard that's also like maybe 20 years in the future

02:25:01.260 but you know are you not worried that when you do have children that the love that you feel for them

02:25:07.100 might make you kind of go hey i would really rather my daughter not be involved in this work

02:25:12.460 and how do i explain that to her when i've spent years doing it um i again would just tell her about

02:25:19.180 the reality of it and the experiences that i have had and how i've learned to not do a lot of what if

02:25:26.300 you have a son and all of his friends when they're 13 i think i can wrap up this conversation super

02:25:33.100 simple okay sorry well just basically uh porn bad i think but we can porn bad the porn bad conversation

02:25:39.580 is super boring yeah but if you guys want to talk about it we can't yeah i like porn bad really boring

02:25:45.020 i think it's just getting a little like convoluted i think i'm the only mother at this table am i correct

02:25:50.380 i think yeah okay yeah um so something that some people know about me but not really is i used to do

02:25:56.940 sex work so i started when i was like i think 22 i never had an only fans i like ran it through my patreon

02:26:03.100 um and the reason was is because i was dating somebody and as soon as i got famous he like

02:26:07.420 leaked all that shit so everybody was like oh you should do one so i did it now i'm a mom i have now

02:26:15.020 i have a son i quit before my son but i have a daughter she's eight i have a son who's three and i have

02:26:19.740 two younger siblings who's 13 and 10 and one thing that i can say speaking completely from experience

02:26:27.340 is once it's out there it's out there and when you become a mom and you look into the face of this

02:26:33.900 like precious little baby that you created there is a level of shame that you will never i will never

02:26:40.780 be able to describe now you you started after your brain was fully developed you made the choice

02:26:47.580 there are a lot of girls who start at like 22 23 they don't think about the implications they don't think

02:26:53.580 wow is my little brother gonna get bullied at school is my son's friends gonna see this so like

02:26:59.980 i think you may be speaking from a position of naivety which is fair because you're not a mom

02:27:05.900 i believe that but just be prepared i believe i believe um i agree with what you're saying um i

02:27:11.740 definitely do have that i'm naive to like what the actual feelings are of being a mother but

02:27:17.340 for me like when i started like being in the industry i i was under the impression that i

02:27:25.740 wasn't able to have kids and i had decided that i wasn't going to have kids um the hope is that like

02:27:33.500 medical science changes and that i will be able to have a kid later on we're hoping but my my goal was

02:27:42.140 never to have children and now that i have somebody that i love i i see that future for

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02:29:05.260 interesting oh that's pretty much it and then also shop.whatever.com if you can pull that up

02:29:12.780 somebody just bought a uh matt oh wait what it's not coming up hold on let me re-trigger it shop.whatever.com

02:29:21.180 matt looks like he bought a hoodie thank you so much man kylie is crazier than a snake yep

02:29:26.220 definitely thank you so much man thanks for buying a uh a piece of merch if you buy some merch we will uh

02:29:31.900 give you guys a shout out on the stream and i'm pretty sure we're all caught up there uh let's

02:29:37.820 see we're gonna get back into the pre-show notes though um going back here to jemma on your twitter

02:29:44.140 it says bookings open but you already clarified that you do do escorting uh how often do you escort i

02:29:50.700 guess or um it says bookings open that is mainly for like professional shoots oh shoots um but

02:29:57.340 the escorting how often do you do that it um so i usually see one of my two people that i have now

02:30:04.860 once a week or okay you got regulars then yeah i i have right now i have two people who i've known for

02:30:11.980 the past four years and what and what's the breakdown there you see them for like 30 minutes

02:30:17.020 they've met they did or is it so the one that i see in vegas um he's super as well we we hang out

02:30:24.300 we go to dinner then we go do a little fun stuff in the you know upstairs maybe we'll go shopping

02:30:29.340 walk around what's the is it like an hourly rate or a flat rate how does that work so if i was going

02:30:36.460 to do like a professional shoot and by that i mean if somebody who is not a creator wants to shoot with

02:30:42.780 me they have to pay the minimum to be able to shoot if they don't want to record it they still have to pay

02:30:47.260 the minimum okay but i typically don't bring new people into sure what's the minimum uh what's a

02:30:54.220 thousand for and i don't i don't i don't do like by hour like if we're gonna do a shoot i'm guessing

02:31:01.020 it'll be from one to three hours or something usually that'll cover like me getting there us doing stuff

02:31:07.820 and us hanging out afterwards maybe anybody else here do or have done me no i'm just joking

02:31:14.300 um not like officially what do you mean i well unofficially well because you can be on like

02:31:21.660 websites you can do it professionally like 100 of the time like full-time um i've had like a couple

02:31:27.180 clients like i was a sugar baby for like a year with two clients two two more than two clients or

02:31:32.220 just two clients it was just two clients okay so you've had transactional sex with two people well

02:31:36.940 like it was like you got a monthly allowance like you continued seeing them yeah yeah continuously what

02:31:42.780 what was your what was the allowances you were getting um my monthly allowance from each was

02:31:48.700 like 3k okay yeah and then would they sometimes i was young though i was like 21 cash give you gifts

02:31:55.180 yeah or like if they take you shopping they'll usually pay for everything dinner you know they're paying

02:31:59.100 for everything okay does that not bother you that someone can like access your body for three thousand

02:32:04.700 dollars well i mean the thing is you don't have to say yes to anybody like you pick the client

02:32:10.220 no you don't you don't have to say yes to anybody and was like here's 3k you're gonna be like nah

02:32:15.420 you're bald it's why i stopped doing it actually yeah because you can't get consistent hot people

02:32:20.540 you want to fuck for money so sometimes you're escorting turn them away the hot guys with money

02:32:25.900 you have a girlfriend they have girlfriends and wives yeah yeah you don't need to pay anybody for

02:32:30.060 sex not always it's like a really low number for self-respect you have uh i mean did you like what

02:32:38.220 was the rate i guess that you charged

02:32:43.340 but that varied i usually made like anywhere from 10 to 20k a month doing it just from the escorting

02:32:49.100 side of things yeah okay and do a lot of women uh seriously i highly i i'm sorry to be rude but yeah

02:32:55.740 judge judge on your jewelry and your outfit i really doubt that and i'm not trying to like

02:33:00.700 say you look like a slob or anything i just doubt that there's a lot of girls who come on this page

02:33:05.500 on this and they they will boast and the one who boasts typically does not have the most

02:33:10.540 yeah i don't think i'm boasting because there's a ton of the girls in the industry that i make

02:33:14.140 it's impossible i make a lot of money compared to me 20k is that from wait are you guys like

02:33:18.300 angel young's alone in a tube top sweatpants your hair's not washed and you want to make that

02:33:25.260 i was at a youtuber party last night that you made this morning a month wait are you guys yeah

02:33:31.820 is this like inter prostitute yes i'm not tatted on my neck so i can charge

02:33:38.380 like whoa hey no i have all natural tits i have no tats on my neck literally not how it works you

02:33:44.060 know what this is warfare i think you have a small-minded opinion about it well i mean there

02:33:51.100 are girls i don't only fans that make like 1.4 million a month bank statements i'll show brian i

02:33:56.460 can show brian i can show you bank statements but i'm not going to show everybody no i i believe i

02:34:01.420 mean i'll show you girls claim they're making six figures and she knows lindsey's literally like

02:34:06.940 she'll do this for seven months i have five clients i will say three of them are really hot

02:34:11.420 the other two are questionable but i don't do half hours i don't do the 45 fucking minutes i do the like

02:34:18.780 hours she does like 30 minutes 45 minutes 20 minutes like she's hustling she's hustling

02:34:24.860 she's a hustler she's breaking her back well i've been to her house and like i've seen like the two

02:34:30.940 regulars i have right now yeah i'm probably making about i make 10 from one of them and then i make about

02:34:36.140 six from the other so i make about 16 with those two that's before my professional pro scenes and

02:34:41.740 that's before anything else do a lot of women who are in the pro scene a lot of them escort on the

02:34:47.420 side right yeah like the in the mainstream traditional adult content yes like with the

02:34:56.540 where there's like the production company doing the shoot it's not just like you're you know the of

02:35:00.700 stuff right yep they're escorting yeah i mean so are bottle service girls yeah so are servers so are

02:35:07.900 girls that you would never get there 1.1.8 million women between 18 and 24 having only fans yeah but

02:35:13.900 three percent of them ever make more than like four hundred dollars right the average is like five

02:35:18.780 hundred dollars yeah i think they're like two hundred a month for most girls i think the average right now

02:35:25.100 is like 180 a month it is yeah that's exactly right uh what about you you said men have do some

02:35:31.180 escorting um i i did i did it like a lot and so i just didn't like the guys that would come through

02:35:36.940 because they're not obviously attractive like that's they're not the most hygienic so i keep the five

02:35:42.540 that i have because i like them so i have like five that come and go when they please okay uh and

02:35:50.380 what's do you charge an hourly rate or what's that uh i do like a thousand to twelve hundred thousand to

02:35:56.860 twelve hundred okay huh you guys think i could yeah not that i would yes any are you gonna buy one

02:36:03.660 no not dudes i would only service women oh um you can make some money i think i think how have you

02:36:10.940 not gotten a sugar mama yet how have you not gotten a sugar mama yet huh i said how have you not gotten

02:36:16.940 a sugar mama yet yeah yeah that's like i've uh has a woman just sent me money just cause i'm trying to

02:36:27.820 think right i mean there's yeah but that's not men and women sending you money just to see your face

02:36:34.300 brian you don't need to pop it open that's not that's like a general show support like a one-on-one

02:36:41.820 like they're like they're like a romantic you like you're like at a cafe and they're like here's five

02:36:48.700 dollars for a coffee no i've not i feel like with sex work it's a lot harder for straight men to gain

02:36:55.020 revenue like this is like one of the things where women such a wage we get um yeah like you i know

02:37:02.380 i say this all the time you want to make money as a man in sex work like really high money i always

02:37:09.020 say i'm like sex work is the one industry where women just us men are really oppressed like you

02:37:13.900 guys are just depressing us do you feel traumatized yeah are you traumatized the sexism is just crazy

02:37:19.580 um oh we have uh no nollie who just got it wait what the heck it's not uh shop.whatever.com thank

02:37:28.700 you nollie for purchasing uh looks like you got a big labia matter hoodie thank you so much appreciate

02:37:35.020 it thank you thank you um you know who has a big clitoris bonnie blue have you ever seen it

02:37:41.660 it looks like a mini penis you know funny enough i've actually never seen anything on bonnie blue

02:37:48.220 how'd you see it for free i don't know actually i don't know if it was on twitter probably somewhere

02:37:55.100 on twitter i feel like maybe i was watching porn one day i have no idea oh i was like she just got

02:37:59.420 oh i googled it i googled it i did a live stream i watched her uh yeah i watched her stream with andrew

02:38:04.780 tate oh that's good we're good we're good on the computer how big is bonnie blue it's a pinky it's

02:38:12.700 big you should definitely look i think we're good oh my god we're good like 10 sheets ago man

02:38:19.020 oh my god nice okay uh so uh that's cool um

02:38:25.820 so that's great how sellable is brian's butthole oh no his penis excuse me

02:38:34.780 uh so anyways you're gonna make me cry who anybody else here like just sugar sugar baby

02:38:41.180 sugar daddy stuff isn't like escorting and sugar baby like kind of the same thing it's like basically

02:38:45.260 it's kind of the same thing thank you for admitting that they all do it yes if you're a sugar baby you're

02:38:50.700 escorting i feel like once you get a clientele sometimes you don't have to meet them so then

02:38:56.380 that's when the sugar baby that's what i was thinking like escort i assume even though that's

02:39:01.180 like a step down from just straight prostitution where these girls will like escort the guy to

02:39:06.860 dinner then i guess but when i think when i think escorting i assume there's a sexual exchange but

02:39:14.860 sugar baby some of these girls are not they're just going on a date no there's no sex that's what they

02:39:21.420 say that's true that's true because even out here on this trip like the guy that i see he sent me a

02:39:25.980 thousand bucks for like just has he seen you travel and all that has he seen you naked at all

02:39:30.620 yeah my twitter congratulations you're escorting if somebody is exchanging you money because they

02:39:35.660 saw you naked or because they are going to see you naked there's also that is prostate pigs on my page

02:39:40.460 there's also people who are cucks and want to pay to just see this content like i think what lindsay's

02:39:45.420 getting at is that there are women who do receive money from that is prostitution yeah when somebody

02:39:51.100 pays to just see your it's a pretty word the differential that we're the differential that

02:39:57.580 we're talking about here is that these women are receiving money and you might still categorize it as

02:40:03.900 prostitution but they're not actually having sex with them and in some cases these women they don't

02:40:09.180 even meet up with some of these guys the women the the guys are just sending them money but they

02:40:13.900 wouldn't have sent that money unless they saw bobs and vagine yeah that's my point that is

02:40:19.100 oh that's nice nobody's looking at y'all's faces and being like oh my god let me send you

02:40:25.180 three thousand dollars uh there are some there's like these uh fin dumb chicks who do like who have

02:40:32.060 pay pigs and like the dynamic there's not even well that's a different breed yeah that is a bit

02:40:36.940 different but they're essentially uh like bullying these guys those girls are hustling i don't agree

02:40:43.980 with it but those girls are hustling it's just another kink the guys like it so they

02:40:48.860 pay for it it's definitely the fun like i think it's taking advantage and exploiting mental health

02:40:53.420 of men but well a girl if they got it like that a girl who is exchanging nudes for to a guy and he's

02:41:02.220 sending her money for the nudes i actually i don't respect it but i respect it more than the girls

02:41:09.420 who are like bullying and doing what's the term in the degradation yeah i was i kind of respect the

02:41:17.020 nude exchange versus the like these women who are like treating these men like right because you've

02:41:22.540 got other kinks like force feeding where these guys will like pay for these big girls to sit on

02:41:28.060 like live streams and force feed themselves and everyone's like those poor victims because they are

02:41:32.940 they're being exploited so i don't see how it's any different if if a man is paying a woman

02:41:38.700 to talk shit i mean i'll talk shit to you for free like why do you i don't understand that part

02:41:42.940 that's mental health you're exploiting mental health the difference between a guy paying for your dinner

02:41:49.340 and then you sleeping with him versus you dating a guy and him paying for dinner and you sleeping are you

02:41:55.340 asking if dating is prostitution no i'm i'm just saying like bonnie blue said something similar so did

02:41:59.900 andrew i'm more i'm more so ew i hated i know that's why i'm like careful girl no i mean as in like

02:42:07.020 i genuinely have uh built relationships with the two people that i i have the one i see in in vegas

02:42:14.220 like it's it's the typical story he's a divorced person recently divorced he hasn't felt love in 20

02:42:22.220 years type thing mainly what we do is is kind of like therapy like yeah is that intimacy to you the

02:42:30.860 sex it is it is but it's an intimacy that we both know what's happening it's it's like transactional

02:42:37.740 it's like he knows i i mean i talk about my guy no false promises right like there's no false promises

02:42:42.780 there's there's no i'm manipulating you i genuinely have feelings for him and he genuinely has feelings for

02:42:49.020 me and my partner is fine with that but what it comes down to is is he's paying he's paying me to

02:42:59.100 be his his like therapist be his like coddler like yeah he's and and and for the other stuff

02:43:05.900 he's paying you so that he can feel a little bit of love yes yeah exactly don't i think that you're

02:43:10.780 just that might hinder him from actually finding a woman who actually truly loves him i don't believe

02:43:17.340 so um i believe if he has feelings for you and seeing you it would be yeah but he doesn't he

02:43:25.020 doesn't want to date me i don't want to date he might not want to date you but if he if he enjoys

02:43:29.340 having sex with you and he wants to keep that going yeah he's going to have a very hard time

02:43:33.980 meeting an actual woman who would love him beyond sex no there's a lot of these men who they can't

02:43:38.620 find one a woman that they that they like in their head have painted a picture of of what they want

02:43:44.220 so they're seeking you for that reason as long as everyone's open and honest i don't think it's

02:43:49.500 explaining i would consider most of the work that i do to be like the girlfriend experience

02:43:54.940 and that's such that's such a fake thing when they it's not a real girlfriend yeah but they're

02:43:59.660 you are you are giving them but they know what that experience it's it's it's not fake but there

02:44:05.100 are a lot of men out there who are desperate enough to feel like they have a girlfriend that

02:44:08.700 they will pay somebody for it yeah and if it's not the real thing you're right so i think

02:44:12.140 the better question is if you ever felt like you had a client say you were making like 3k off of

02:44:17.420 them and you noticed that they were starting it was starting it's it's like a therapist you describe

02:44:21.340 yourself as a therapist if you're a therapist and somebody starts like falling in love with you

02:44:25.180 you have to refer that client like would you have the moral standing to be like i'm gonna do what's

02:44:29.900 better for you because this is going too far i've had clients where it became scary and like stalkery

02:44:37.020 and i've had to like block them multiple multiple times like they just keep making accounts or those

02:44:43.340 show up places that was before i moved out to vegas but people will become obsessive if you're not

02:44:50.620 careful and clear with your boundaries like i don't think obsessive but i mean what if you notice them

02:44:56.460 having real feelings for you right not stalker and obsessive but just actually having real feelings

02:45:02.380 because if they have about that if they have real feelings for you that will hinder them in creating

02:45:07.340 real feelings for another woman that would actually be their girlfriend right you're no longer helping

02:45:12.300 them you're hindering them that's a good i honestly don't think i have i can talk from this perspective

02:45:16.940 because for me i've i've never like seen it as like a jealousy type issue to like sleep with multiple

02:45:25.100 men no but i'm not talking jealousy i'm saying if they actually if they actually get romantic

02:45:32.060 feelings for you if they actually are like i like this girl i would be with her if i could

02:45:37.660 they will keep seeing you and that will hinder them from actually finding a woman who would be with

02:45:44.140 them and reciprocate those feelings back i don't know why them having a healthy and loving situationship

02:45:50.300 with somebody would hinder them from if i'm saying you girl on the side i would not have i think if

02:45:56.860 they're loving you and they have good feelings for you they're going to have a very hard time meeting

02:46:01.660 a woman who's going to put up with them loving another one yeah i think uh so they're not and

02:46:07.180 they're also going to have trouble developing those feelings for another woman because that space is

02:46:11.500 already taken so that's a really good point um in my situation with the two clients i have now they're

02:46:18.220 incredibly busy they are like big big entertainment moguls like they don't really have time to like

02:46:25.260 actually do uh normal conservative conservative dating or even worry about like the drama of trying

02:46:33.260 to date somebody you're trying to like go to the bar after a long day of work they want to know that

02:46:38.300 they are going to have somebody there to but i feel like you're avoiding the question a little bit

02:46:44.860 am i slightly i might have missed it slightly if if the question was because you say like it's not

02:46:50.940 unethical because nobody's falling in love there's this pre-agreement if you saw a client that was

02:46:56.620 falling in love with you that was starting to build this delusion in their mind that you were

02:47:01.500 you know that you because i'm sure you care but there's a level of like you're getting paid so you

02:47:05.500 can't it's not like caring for a friend right if you saw that they were emotionally overstepping

02:47:11.820 the boundaries you guys i would have to cut it off would you okay that's that's a question okay

02:47:16.540 how do you pick up those signs is there like a certain point where you're like this guy is showing

02:47:20.220 way too much emotion to be my client now i mean it's it's kind of the same red flags as like a first

02:47:26.140 date you know if somebody like says something you get that like like because i've had marriage

02:47:31.020 proposals like that one down type thing you know you have to say no and set those boundaries but

02:47:36.140 if they still want to see you that's still their choice they sought you out in the beginning and

02:47:40.940 they're choosing to see you after you set those boundaries as well that's like a drug dealer being

02:47:45.100 like you don't overdose but hey you're gonna buy this fentanyl off it's their choice to come get

02:47:50.540 a drug that they're addicted to you have to have morals but are they gonna die from having sex with me

02:47:55.260 no but you might hinder their life from being better but if they have said that they don't

02:47:59.500 want somebody their age or they don't want somebody who yeah like they're choosing they're choosing to

02:48:05.340 pay for something because they either don't want to seek out the alternative don't want a traditional

02:48:09.980 date yeah like there's a lot of men who like they'd be deployed or they just like to freaking cheat or

02:48:16.860 they're athletes who are never more in one place more than like a day or two like it just depends

02:48:22.380 feelings for him is that correct i care about him okay as a person i i care that he does well and i

02:48:31.820 like like it's not just like he texts me on friday oh i'm in town like like he'll check in with me like

02:48:37.820 we'll update each other about what we're doing i think for for him at this point like it has been

02:48:45.260 he's been lonely and he was in this relationship for so long back to like the being in a relationship

02:48:50.860 and having to leave it and having kind of nothing he he had like a whole family and now he's having

02:48:57.660 to do all of this on his own and figure out like how to feel like a man again and how to you know

02:49:06.380 like i don't know feel confident in himself and what he does and i i believe that i help him to find

02:49:12.300 that confidence again i understand that right you're just saying like if you took the money away from it

02:49:16.220 would you still see him no i don't i don't see how a guy paying a woman to sleep with him is going

02:49:23.100 to build his confidence again it's not paying to sleep with me i mean tech kind of but it's more

02:49:28.780 like he doesn't give me like a bundle of bills like he helps me when i need help with certain things

02:49:34.780 when i ask for it but he's doing that because you sleep with him he's doing that because i

02:49:39.020 comfort him if you weren't if if sex was not involved he would not be paying you he could get

02:49:45.180 comfort from a female friend he could get comfort from anybody else that he sees i'm guessing that he

02:49:50.620 doesn't have that he could pay a therapist for comfort okay there's other people he can go to for

02:49:55.740 comfort he's going to you because i'm not i'm not understanding why i'm not upset i just think that

02:50:01.660 you're kind of disconnecting what it's actually about and the base of what it's about is sex do you

02:50:07.980 dominate him and if so like does that help with his self-confidence not him um i i don't i think

02:50:14.860 you guys are making it sound like it's just this like evil awful thing i think in in my experience

02:50:19.900 it's been a very wholesome very nice experience with him like i don't i don't know wholesome is

02:50:25.260 the right i don't think it's the same thing going on a date what it's it's not the same thing as going

02:50:30.380 on a date with somebody if you're involving exchanging money for you're gonna have sex with somebody

02:50:35.260 after a date what the fuck is the difference yeah but a date you're expecting something

02:50:39.180 the future like a relationship yeah i mean you can see it though some of us do see that i i

02:50:44.700 do you sleep with all of them i feel like i have some clients that i don't even sleep with sometimes

02:50:48.700 we just like hang out yeah like the cuddle guy yeah but there's no expectation of sex after that

02:50:54.140 hangout session is not always not all the time but if he asked for it you would do it you would ask for

02:50:58.540 it yeah because he's obviously a paying customer yeah okay so it's just like kind of like a customer

02:51:04.460 service thing they're paying for a service i don't i don't think it's like an evil it's just like

02:51:10.860 another way to pay the bills i help him he helps me kind of a situation and somehow i get something

02:51:16.380 out of it my bills are paid and if he leaves happy he leaves like happy do you want a relationship with

02:51:22.140 any of your clientele would that be cool for you they're like i don't want to date any of them

02:51:26.700 personally just because maybe one but all of them no i don't think so it's just more of just

02:51:32.620 like a transactional i need help you want to help me you need help i'm gonna help you okay and when

02:51:36.780 they're like foot ugly how do you turn your brain off great question um doggy and you close your eyes

02:51:44.860 i'm not a key word and you close your eyes um are you just i'm not mad at you allow certain

02:51:51.660 people to do certain things well i do deny well i do deny some people because like i said some

02:51:56.380 people are just not hygienic and just not like i'm sorry i just don't think it's worth it like

02:52:00.940 i'm just like no yeah i would never sleep with somebody i didn't find attractive oh i do all

02:52:05.580 the time but it's just like i feel disgusting i will not do it i have i guess but don't you feel

02:52:13.900 disgusting all the time no how do you and are you guys sober when this happens you see this most of

02:52:19.580 the time because yeah not everybody has to be like this is what it is i don't know i'm much more of a

02:52:27.900 people person so like sometimes we're not having sex but we're also just like i have one i don't

02:52:33.980 know he's a cute little asian he comes over and i cuddled him for like a whole hour

02:52:37.100 oh yeah and he gave me a little boo boo and then that made sense cuddles for the boo-boos that's

02:52:44.060 like the new trend well i did get i did get paid but those are expensive yeah i think you got a good

02:52:48.940 deal there it was a giant la boo-boo too love him

02:52:54.860 send now

02:52:55.660 i do have some clients that don't know how to be intimate or how to

02:53:06.860 do sexual things and doing that with like a random person i think it's embarrassing

02:53:12.300 too intimidating maybe they're not like as well endowed yeah and by paying someone they know that

02:53:18.540 we're obviously gonna have sex there's no judgment yeah and then they're just sometimes i have one

02:53:23.820 client that's just like i need help and i'm like okay i can help you kind of a situation and is it

02:53:28.860 like referral or how do you guys like get your name no i'm i honestly don't know no like they seek

02:53:34.620 obviously twitter and there are pages like right there's like i met both my clients uh naturally like

02:53:41.100 just at events yeah i met my sugar daddies naturally so many people i would love to go to vegas

02:53:47.340 both my clients are out here actually really um but they they travel sometimes but i'm usually out

02:53:53.180 here every two weeks i know vegas is high and for that i'm sorry if i sounded mad at you no you're

02:53:59.180 fine you're fine i get a little sometimes i get a little confused whenever it's like so many people

02:54:04.300 talking um yeah i'm sorry if i made you feel like no no yeah we're not judging this is a great time

02:54:08.540 obviously i'm having so much fun right now i just want to be educated so if you guys had especially

02:54:13.900 you you and you you seem to be most vocal about um your job and the ins and outs of it if you had

02:54:20.380 somebody that came to you that was like well not a millionaire i guess but like if you had like a

02:54:26.780 rich guy even a guy that you fell in love with he's handsome family man and he was like you just

02:54:32.940 fell head over heels and he was like no more only fans would you stop yes he's paying my bills yeah yeah

02:54:40.540 so that's what that's what it come down to is paying the bills i'm taking care of like i'm just

02:54:45.500 being taken care of and like letting me be able to do something besides only fans like taking care

02:54:51.100 of me so i can go to school and do some other things i would literally quit today so why not

02:54:55.180 go to school now sorry why not save you guys if you're making 20 000 why don't you nobody go to

02:55:01.180 school that doesn't mean everybody grew up with those means and that means like you do i'm talking

02:55:05.180 to you oh no i i pay my mom's bills and i have other people that i'm right i pay my family's bills

02:55:10.540 too that's not the question so then you don't know my finances that wasn't the question why does

02:55:14.460 the end game have to be to get out of sex work though exactly you don't think maybe it's

02:55:22.540 that's a personal look at society as a whole right now society as a whole dating is not going great and

02:55:30.860 i don't think that only fans helps that at all she's in a happy relationship but nobody's going to

02:55:35.260 approach you you are you and be like hey let me pay your bills and come cook and clean for me i

02:55:41.660 don't want that i don't want that you just said that you would no we said we would she said she

02:55:47.260 would stop if that was on the table we didn't say we that's the end game what if you're dating a guy

02:55:53.180 and you're already in a relationship and he makes fifty thousand dollars a year and you meet a client

02:55:58.220 who's a millionaire and he says hey baby quit this and come be with me are you gonna dump your

02:56:04.460 boyfriend to go be with that guy of course they would i mean you're in a happy relationship wait

02:56:08.940 you mean like monogamously dating somebody and also still escorting yeah because several people a lot

02:56:14.540 of a lot of people do that tons of women do escorting and only fans while dating somebody to mention

02:56:21.500 my partner is okay with it because it's what i want but if i were to not do it it would probably

02:56:28.380 make him happy he isn't against it because he's also in the industry but we've had this talk because

02:56:33.820 of conversations that come up on this like i watch this all the time um if if he wanted me to stop

02:56:39.820 i would stop so i knew that we could survive and that we could take care of each other i would stop

02:56:44.540 what if you had a client i enjoy doing it what if you had a client who said quit this only sleep with

02:56:51.740 me and i will pay you two hundred thousand dollars a year to do that that would never happen i would

02:56:56.300 rather i'd rather i'd rather sleep in a box with my partner because i'd stay with my partner for

02:57:01.180 money yeah and i will say at this point uh i did i moved in with my partner this past week he is

02:57:09.740 he's the one who came to me and said hey i want to take care of the more of our bills i want to take

02:57:14.540 care of these things that you can save for us so whenever we look for a house you can help me with that

02:57:21.020 right and so like he's taking care of most of our bills right now and all i have to do is save my

02:57:27.740 money so whatever money i make is to save it and then i'm the back i'm the fallback whenever it comes

02:57:35.020 to like us getting a house i'm the fallback if if he can't make it one month i got it you know and

02:57:41.020 that's i think that is the only way that like this type of situation could work between us is if

02:57:47.580 we both know that no matter what we will be okay because we will make it happen yeah when i quit

02:57:53.180 i have no idea i just quit because i like my brain developed and one day i just couldn't look at

02:57:57.580 myself in the mirror i was like i can't do this it's like how am i going to explain this to my son

02:58:02.060 or my little brother or like how am i going to do that so i'm yeah i mean when the day comes that you

02:58:08.860 guys want to get out i wish you all the best i hope you save all the money because i made 1.8 million

02:58:15.980 and saved like girl shit a third of that but but it's not even anything to be proud of because i

02:58:21.980 spent it i didn't have parents i didn't have anybody to teach me about taxes about investing about how

02:58:27.820 was just a young dumb kid that blew a bunch of money seriously so i had to start from i mean luckily i

02:58:34.460 have a platform and i'm able to use uh my brain now which is nice to make money using my brain i started

02:58:42.220 being a sex worker five years uh so anyways moving on uh question for you guys i was curious

02:58:51.020 just about your tattoo here who is who's that little peep that's a little peep okay he's an

02:58:56.220 artist that died uh i know you have the cry baby yeah uh so we have uh merch somebody got a oh you got

02:59:04.940 oh mary in the studio she got herself that's a merch uh some merch you can get yourself some

02:59:11.900 shop.whatever.com i gotta tell my assistant pull that up yeah shop.whatever.com guys we'll give you

02:59:17.660 guys shout out during the stream if you purchase something uh thank you so much for that and then

02:59:21.660 also we have a message here from hidumi this culture of sex for money in today's day and age is

02:59:28.780 incredibly scary between buyers and sellers something off something's off and needs to change love your show

02:59:34.220 brian and the team shout out to chloe hi do me is an up-and-coming advocate she works incredibly hard

02:59:41.740 and she's actually signed under me so yeah rock and roll shout out to you girl thank you so much for

02:59:48.060 your uh message really appreciate it we also have uh via venmo and cash app here a couple shout outs i

02:59:56.300 need to give we have cody thank you for the 10 on cash app for my caucasian thank you

03:00:03.020 uh five via cash app uh oh she says a woman just paying you for you okay i have my first official

03:00:12.380 uh simp i guess five dollars thank you uh you know what how do you feel you know what

03:00:19.260 i feel like you're worth a lot more than yeah yeah yeah what the do you feel dirty

03:00:23.500 dollars april uh hold on hey uh we lost all your morality you know uh x that x that two two times

03:00:32.940 three times four times i think i have a 20 in my purse do you want that i'll take it go get your

03:00:37.020 for give me some i got a five or somewhere this is a stick up let's i'll actually i will accept

03:00:43.980 cash yeah do you have any canadian money i'd love some i do can i have some yeah i got like six euros

03:00:50.300 in my bag what is that like with uh just chucking loonies at brian like seven something here

03:00:56.140 dropping coins whoa this is a ten dollar this is canadian wow it's like monopoly

03:01:00.860 money it's nice class here oh my goodness thank you

03:01:03.740 yes thank you do you have any of the tunis

03:01:09.980 oh we need a tuning money well thank you so much chloe i do appreciate it now i do want you to clap

03:01:15.660 your feet barefoot yeah so pay up this is a common request i receive that will cost you extra um

03:01:24.220 i have another five and then where's the 20 kate where's the 20. do you want me to go get it

03:01:27.580 yeah go get the 20. okay yeah go get it no no no no make him clap

03:01:32.140 make it clap brian all right she's going no chloe don't do it for free anybody else want to go check

03:01:38.380 their purse give me money absolutely how did this just turn into us all giving brian money like

03:01:44.060 this is the best this should be a segment every show this is a new petition sent for brian every

03:01:50.620 single show patronage to brian uh let's see here we have anna with the 20 on venmo thank you anna

03:01:57.340 mary thank you for the 30 on a bunch of women spending you money now i love it here you go

03:02:02.140 here you go uh guys uh venmo.com whatever pod whatever pod uh venmo and cash app if you

03:02:09.020 want to show them the cash out yeah brian atlas is going to me so uh our money is we're 70 cents

03:02:15.340 to your dollar so that 10 bucks wait check this check this kate here is about

03:02:20.380 i get it wow the singles from the curb i shouldn't even accept this but i if i must

03:02:29.900 very insulting i spent the 20 sorry thank you though appreciate it thank you for the uh we have joe

03:02:36.460 via wait here it is joe the feet club okay relax a hundred dollars from joe finley yo

03:02:45.500 via cash app guys w's in the chat for joe that's a very generous contribution thank you so much joe

03:02:51.020 you're a legend joe finley via cash app and then quick reminder guys tts is 200 read is 100 like the

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03:03:02.620 following the prime sub on twitch twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash whatever guys it's been

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03:03:12.140 a little twitch prime in the chat see if it's available and then also don't forget uh big labia

03:03:17.020 matter okay cool thank you and all right let's get into uh we need to get into quite a few things oh the

03:03:24.300 wnba segment okay so we're going we're going to cover that here so nick can you uh pull up the the first

03:03:34.220 the google searches so wnba players wear pay us what you owe us shirts at all-star game there's a bunch of

03:03:41.580 news reports on that and then nick if you tab over to the next one you're going to see so up they all

03:03:47.020 wore shirts that say pay us what you owe us uh you have caitlin clark there in the upper left-hand

03:03:53.740 corner uh the caption though reads the wnba loses 50 million every year and has never never never

03:04:03.100 generated a profit you deserve zero so the nba subsidizes the wnba can you tab over to the next one

03:04:12.140 and then oh if the nba or excuse me the wnba shirts were honest i owe the nba money i guess they

03:04:18.940 did a little uh ai adjustment there so just want to get the opinion here from the table these women

03:04:25.180 they feel as if they're underpaid uh for work they're male counterparts in the national best basketball

03:04:32.380 association yes nba the nba uh get paid way way more and these women are doing equal you know equal

03:04:42.860 work equal work for equal pay so they surely must deserve you know lebron james they they should be

03:04:49.580 paid paid the same as lebron kobe rest in peace no the women are overpaid so what do you guys think you

03:04:56.940 think uh this is the should the wnba players they are paid i think fairly generous yeah what's the

03:05:02.700 salary i'm not here let me uh i think they get they get paid like six figures like probably 100

03:05:09.660 low six figures well and wouldn't their income be like based on profit from people actually buying

03:05:17.260 tickets and going to the games which generally that's not a thing people do so why would they

03:05:21.580 make as much as a man there's like high doomy is an up-and-coming advocate this would be like if

03:05:26.380 she's like i deserve to be paid just as much as roma because we're doing the same job but doesn't

03:05:31.820 pull in the same amount of views or revenue right that's actually ridiculous that's like me saying

03:05:36.460 i should make i don't want to say that that's just like i want the same amount as bonnie blue yeah no

03:05:43.420 i should be earning the same amount as the number one only fans girl in the entire country even

03:05:48.380 though my body is mid and so is my god like what this is the issue with women's sports across the

03:05:54.220 spectrum because i think people in soccer were having the same conversation like we need to be

03:05:58.460 paid as much as play people who play like fifa or whatever yeah but it's like you're not selling out

03:06:02.940 those stadiums baby girl and then how it works you can have high school men beat you at your pro sport

03:06:08.540 i think that's also a problem like serena williams also gets beat by young men and she makes on par if

03:06:16.060 not more than what she deserves because she's in the women's category so she's also stated multiple

03:06:21.980 times that if she were to go against a man she would lose most likely yeah and that makes sense

03:06:27.420 because men and women are different it's just right uh you have that that i sent you nick if you could

03:06:31.980 pull that up uh so these are the wnba salary rankings listing the top salaries cap hits i have no

03:06:39.660 idea what that is but uh quote a million so they're they're making like this is a lot of money

03:06:45.020 this is a lot of money this is i don't know what cap hit is i don't i'm not a do you know what that is

03:06:51.020 is it just like a year what they make in a year basically i would love to make that how much they're

03:06:55.180 allowed to make let's switch oh i see i see oh the total cash okay uh so wait this is

03:07:04.380 that's pretty this looks generous how much does kaitlyn clark make is she not in the wish that was

03:07:11.020 oh can you on the total cash could you click full ranks okay because maybe the one who's getting a

03:07:16.700 lot of yeah right there just click for me yeah attacking her own okay uh can you make it a

03:07:21.420 she's right that's fine oh britney griner yeah okay yeah you can keep scrolling i heard britney

03:07:29.020 griner speak how much does kaitlyn clark she did what got a deep voice interesting i'm not expecting

03:07:33.660 that so it's only going up so it wouldn't be shown here uh yeah scroll scroll keep going keep going

03:07:42.780 down so much more okay so some of them are making like billions and billions of dollars but they're

03:07:46.380 actually bringing in i mean think what the other stadiums are always are these numbers yearly or per

03:07:52.700 game uh i'm assuming it's per year there she is kaitlyn clark at the bottom kaitlyn clark

03:07:58.060 78 000 and then just really quick scroll back up to the very top

03:08:02.700 this doesn't include sponsors yeah i was going to say that's they make money with like mikey

03:08:06.060 sponsors yeah they got shoes and stuff this is just for their playing right right obviously the men

03:08:10.780 make way more right but 250 000 a year is uh that's nothing to sneeze at it's good yeah it's not a

03:08:18.780 small amount yes if you can say it's more fun that's what i was thinking yeah you want to get

03:08:22.540 more into a girls basketball game it's not fun it's boring it's not entertaining it's not all you guys

03:08:27.100 want to do is pull each other's hair i played women's soccer for almost 21 years and let me

03:08:32.140 tell you i didn't watch it i think kaitlyn clark started getting bullied on the on the the court

03:08:39.580 and that's been the biggest news i've heard about other players basketball in a while that's it yeah

03:08:44.940 it's just because it's girls pulling each other's hair right like i don't know crazy

03:08:50.220 shit crazy shit i think they should be grateful because they have access to a lot of liquid capital they

03:08:55.820 could do anything they want right now so there should be no complaining yep if i look if i was

03:09:01.260 the the nba commissioner that was overseeing the wnba and they wore those shirts right right

03:09:12.540 they're losing 50 million a year to promote this

03:09:16.700 fucking dog you would see more competitive play at the high school level for boys

03:09:22.220 right and they're just oh it's so bad we were going to show a clip of them playing basketball

03:09:30.060 please do but we didn't we didn't want to like they're so strict with copyright with sports

03:09:34.060 broadcasts it's boring all you hear is like the squeaking of the shoes and the rolling of the ball

03:09:39.020 they're not getting the ball contested they have like literally a free throw and they're missing it like

03:09:44.700 half the fucking time it's fucking crazy i'm canadian you know all we watch is hockey so

03:09:51.500 that's it now that is a fun anyways that was a big hit in me of like a capitalistic society is that

03:09:58.060 you can make less than somebody else doing the same job based on views and popularity and all that so

03:10:03.500 like why wouldn't you be a bob when you can make literally the same or more than these girls wait

03:10:08.700 why wouldn't you be about sell your ass or play w nba same same yeah i got asthma i'm not going to

03:10:16.540 play basketball that your takeaway from this is don't be an athlete capitalism bad because

03:10:22.220 no i didn't say it's bad i said it's good oh okay but she's like why not make less or

03:10:29.820 less or the same as a wb player you can make more i guess as a escort she says she makes 20 000 a

03:10:35.980 month literally anyways whatever uh we have josh brooks for the panel what is your most embarrassing

03:10:40.380 dating or carnal knowledge story something that happened that really stuck with you through the

03:10:45.100 years embarrassing for you or the other party thank you josh appreciate it i feel like you have a good

03:10:50.700 one uh go ahead do you want you got something embarrassing i mean aside from that fulsome street

03:10:55.820 fair thing oh my gosh um were you embarrassed by that though that's a i yeah i'm not embarrassed

03:11:01.820 by that it's it's so funny um i let myself date a guy who told me that he was like a secret agent

03:11:11.500 for like two months and hey this is so amazing i moved in with him and i wasn't even moved i hadn't

03:11:20.140 fully moved all my stuff in and he asked if another girl could come live with us and previous to me he

03:11:26.540 had had two girls in a polyamorous relationship with him and so literally not even all my stuff's in his

03:11:32.220 house he's a super super spy you know i have no idea how he makes his money inspector gadget yeah but

03:11:38.620 i was like yeah he makes me coffee every day you said you said in your notes he was an m16 black

03:11:43.580 operative yeah he would i promise you this man like created a personality by watching like 13 hours

03:11:51.020 or something like okay um okay yeah i i knew i'm embarrassed because i i should have just left but

03:11:59.340 i knew that he wasn't like a spy or something but i was still like okay i could maybe don't tell you

03:12:05.740 it was because of the lifestyle he had i was like okay i'll stick around uh any other embarrassing

03:12:11.100 makes me feel dumb lindsey embarrassing story okay i can't say any names here but there was this nfl

03:12:22.780 guy i used to go hook up in his charger with and we'd go to the top of this like parking garage in

03:12:28.540 arizona and we got caught by the cops but i was butt naked so i had to stay in the car so then he went

03:12:35.260 out and talked to them for us thank god but ever since then like i was so freaking embarrassed that like

03:12:40.540 i would make i would make him smoke a bunch of weed and sign all the footballs for me so i could

03:12:45.820 sell them later um i got catfished i got catfished by a trans guy one time and i didn't know that they

03:12:56.860 were a trans guy yeah that was like the probably the craziest and most embarrassing we'd gone out

03:13:03.900 on one date and i was like dang like he's low-key short which usually like i'm not like a being a tall

03:13:09.740 king is not like a requirement like my height they're taller is ideal and then we went out on

03:13:14.300 the second date and it was dinner and the movies and then um on the third date he had like wanted

03:13:19.420 to come back to my place after and i was like oh you know whatever like we can go watch like chill for

03:13:24.620 a little bit smoke or something um and basically i guess he his thought was that he was going to get me

03:13:31.660 he she however they identify at this point in time i don't know um they thought they were going to get

03:13:36.860 me so belligerently drunk that i basically wouldn't know that they were going to try to penetrate

03:13:41.740 me with a strap on oh my god yeah that's yeah yeah it was like borderline assault and then like

03:13:51.580 when i tried to like stop the engagement they like flipped it and tried to like gaslight me

03:13:57.340 and were calling me transphobic and all these like horrible things they've been doing that a lot

03:14:01.820 yeah and i was like i just they're like you've been you've been with girls before i'm like hold

03:14:07.500 on hold on what you have to do with what you're doing right now sir ma'am like that i don't think

03:14:14.460 that quantifies to the situation yeah i'm like oh my goodness like great heavens um see i'd say that's

03:14:23.500 like the craziest thing that ever had to try to get you tanked so you wouldn't know this yeah and like

03:14:28.460 had even and this sounds really sad because i don't like to like take away from people that

03:14:32.700 have had bad things happen to them but they like made this huge elaborate story about why they didn't

03:14:37.180 like fellatio like why they didn't want me to go down on them why they didn't want me to touch them

03:14:42.540 in certain areas and basically they said that it was due to like things that had happened to them when

03:14:47.580 they were a kid which who knows maybe that those things did happen to them i don't know but i was just

03:14:52.300 trying to be respective of boundaries and not like press and not do things and then basically they just

03:14:56.940 didn't want me to touch them anywhere from about here down probably because they were it sounds

03:15:02.220 like yeah because they were trans and they had a strap on it sounds like that person did you do a

03:15:09.740 scene with the trans i did yeah woman um it's with a group called trans daylight um okay yeah that was

03:15:17.900 it was fun but they had a penis yeah she had a penis yeah they she

03:15:26.700 yeah wait what yes yes there's a transgender woman yeah no she has male to female trans male to

03:15:33.580 female oh oh and they still had their penis yeah yeah yeah but that was a man-made penis i'm like

03:15:39.180 those look scary man and extra parts body affirming type surgeries rock and roll uh what about you

03:15:46.060 what about you crazy crazy dating story um i think i might have two i know when i lost my virginity

03:15:54.220 i almost killed him because he's allergic to peanut butter

03:15:57.900 girl what

03:15:58.540 um yeah so he almost died his dad had to like help and then i got caught giving road head and the person

03:16:09.420 that pulled us over was his dad okay those are nice congratulations damn that was good uh okay

03:16:18.700 what about you i don't i don't have nothing okay what about you i don't have anything as crazy as

03:16:25.020 those girls so i i um i got invited to hang out a couple years ago for a fourth of july with a guy

03:16:32.700 and we were hanging out with some friends of his on a private lake and stuff i didn't eat enough and

03:16:39.260 i didn't drink enough water and on the way home i threw up all over his dashboard and his windshield

03:16:45.660 like projectiles yes on the freeway so yeah i didn't hear back from him

03:16:52.140 so rip uh chloe what about you uh you know what i'm pretty tame i never i didn't date a whole lot in

03:16:58.780 my life however i did i do have one experience where uh the guy ended up uh we were going on a

03:17:05.260 date we were meeting at a bar across from my apartment building and i walked in and some man

03:17:10.700 that i didn't even recognize was like hi over here he used pictures from like 20 years ago and like 10

03:17:16.540 minutes into the date he told me that he had just gotten out of uh the penitentiary for aggravated

03:17:22.300 assault i'm like well oh this is not going well sir oh my god that's it that's it

03:17:30.540 all right uh we have a message here oh yeah we want a crazy i've shared some before already they've

03:17:38.380 already they've heard it before they don't they don't want to i haven't i don't want to call brian

03:17:43.900 dave richards child support not only should be capped but eliminated in a divorce it should be 50 50

03:17:51.100 custody with no child support it's a racket for women and the state brian if you can look into the

03:17:56.300 scam more okay not just women because keep in mind i pay i'm not a lesbian i pay to a man she pays

03:18:03.980 3 000 and uh child support so yeah just the breadwinner although it is uh overwhelmingly the the men who

03:18:10.380 are paying the child support i think there's another component here uh even in instances where the woman

03:18:16.620 is the breadwinner i think men are far less likely to pursue getting child proud i know in your case

03:18:25.100 you know he did pursue the child support but i think generally speaking men are less likely to have

03:18:29.500 and approach it with this attitude of like i'm owed something and they're they're less likely to

03:18:35.820 uh go for it i feel like men have been raised with that breadwinner mindset like beaten into them is

03:18:43.420 that yeah like they don't they don't they don't have that thought of like oh i can just ask somebody

03:18:48.460 for help they they know like i have to do this or else it won't be done i don't like paying that much

03:18:53.180 money i feel kind of bitter about it sometimes but at the end of the day he is an exceptional father

03:18:59.580 um to both children so at least i don't like it but says the u.s

03:19:06.860 crazy it's crazy i'm actually canadian i have two socials and where are you from what part uh vancouver

03:19:15.020 oh nice i'm alberta uh let's see going into the notes here you know what why don't we see if there's

03:19:20.540 any uh initial disagreements so going to gemma you said that you disagree with some of the language used

03:19:26.860 towards certain archetypes or professions but that thought is inconsequential inconsequential when it

03:19:33.020 comes to freedom of speech and expression uh so what were the disagreements when it comes to like

03:19:38.780 language that i guess either myself or some of my other guests have used i guess i can just uh let

03:19:46.380 me let me try to get my words together um honestly i i don't really have anything to state on that at

03:19:55.020 the moment okay sure if something comes up yeah feel free uh you also wrote financial disparagements

03:20:00.060 between different races sexes and classes marital partners does that prompt anything for you

03:20:07.020 i think i'm not sure at the moment okay well if it comes to you just uh thank you let me know here

03:20:11.900 why don't we just jump into this stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of

03:20:16.060 one to ten we do have somebody gone so you know what we'll have to come back to that we will get into

03:20:22.860 a different note while we put that on hold we have lindsey okay uh lindsey in your notes you say

03:20:31.660 you wanted to talk about how celebrities always want to f uh porn stars and escorts behind closed

03:20:38.460 doors but pretend they hate them or disagree on camera or with other people you write that you've

03:20:44.620 effed trevor wallace legeret blunt wait hold on who the fuck is that guy okay no idea

03:20:55.420 and then you also write you follow this up you've been asked to rim these athletes

03:21:01.500 why would you even say that uh rim these athletes that are low-key gay but pretend they're not why are you

03:21:09.340 outing them a lot of them you know a lot of athletes pretend that they're like super straight

03:21:15.820 but then they only want uh stuff done to their their dirty star damn why would you say that though if

03:21:23.100 you if you're if you're out here sleeping with like high level people why would you even break

03:21:29.340 confidentiality and be like yeah i've licked that guy's asshole like doesn't that just make you like i

03:21:33.980 didn't sign an nda there was no nda no that might that doesn't matter other people yeah but if you

03:21:40.300 come to my house and you shit your pants because you got so drunk i didn't sign an nda but i'm

03:21:44.380 probably not going to go on the internet and be like this dumb bitch shit her pants yeah you could

03:21:48.140 you know i never have but no i mean i i feel bad for the wives at home that have these married men

03:21:54.220 who are paying for me oh they have wives if you feel bad for them then why are you sleeping them

03:21:58.380 you don't feel that bad i mean i don't know this till later but my point being like

03:22:03.580 they're the ones paying me and seeking out me why do you think money involved why do you think

03:22:08.060 it's your right to out somebody like that yeah why especially why do they find it their right

03:22:15.020 they took care of you though you entered you entered a confidentiality agreement when you

03:22:20.140 decided to take money from that person i didn't take money you entered a contract of respect i didn't

03:22:24.780 take money from those general human respect for somebody i didn't take money from a show like this

03:22:30.780 sorry it's it's very upsetting to go on a show like this and name names yeah and then talk about

03:22:36.780 like the things that you guys did behind closed doors in which he paid you to keep that secret

03:22:41.020 they didn't i hope you get sued actually either way one i didn't get paid even if you didn't do

03:22:46.540 i didn't sign an agreement i'm gonna sleep with you now and you were getting paid if you were if

03:22:51.740 you were doing stuff with all these high level people they're all gonna leave they're not gonna

03:22:55.900 be your clients anymore so much client they're not even that high level but at the same time

03:23:01.820 like first off i didn't get paid yeah i know we listen and we don't judge has totally left the room

03:23:07.260 because it's just bias depending on who you like in here so anyways no but the point everybody judges

03:23:12.940 if i didn't get paid i didn't sign a confidentiality agreement and that person and i like i just don't

03:23:19.740 like the double standard where it's like wait she didn't even specify who the athletes yes she did

03:23:24.380 she named names yeah but she didn't say that those specific guys were the low-key gay ones that she

03:23:31.420 she implied it no that's that's different yeah that is the implication yes brian no i don't know

03:23:39.500 do you want to work with anybody ever again who the fuck is am i saying his name right big enough

03:23:46.700 i heard a name google i guess somebody will look it up i don't know who the i don't know who it's

03:23:52.860 le garrett le garrett i just think it's funny that you are now all like it's that guy

03:23:57.980 we don't listen we listen and we don't judge when like my first impression of you was outside when

03:24:05.100 you and your friend in between talking about what kind of plastic surgery y'all want you were talking

03:24:09.900 about how shitty this podcast is it's just a dumb podcast how shitty brian is and now you now you want

03:24:16.060 to sit here and be like we listen and we don't judge do you understand the implications of like

03:24:21.900 essentially outing somebody on the internet i feel like it should be illegal because especially if you

03:24:27.420 look within the black community homophobia is so rampant where it actually ends in like acts of

03:24:33.340 violence so i don't even know who you just name dropped but number one you just fucked your chances

03:24:38.700 of ever getting a big name client but number two your actions could have indirectly caused harm to come

03:24:46.140 to somebody else and i just want you don't think that their actions cause indirect harm to their

03:24:50.380 family by hiring a girl you tire money from them you are on no moral high ground but also also also

03:24:57.340 i want to clear the air because where were you outside because it wasn't wait wait wait stop stop

03:25:02.060 stop stop stop stop stop hold on yeah we can't be talking specifics don't talk no no no i'm not

03:25:07.900 gonna talk about location i'm not gonna talk about location go ahead i'm saying like i have lucy

03:25:12.860 lotus who was with me last time was on the phone and i was talking to her and i never even talked about

03:25:18.300 this podcast at all i don't know during that phone conversation anything i just what you just said

03:25:22.620 because you just made a blatant lie trying to say that i was talking badly about the podcast

03:25:27.660 i thought we were homies that's my point i thought we were lucy lotus and i love the show okay so that

03:25:33.180 didn't happen when your friend wants to be here with me lucy wanted to see you again i know

03:25:39.820 when your friend with the botox comes out she's gonna she's gonna deny that right that was never said

03:25:45.100 i'm just making it up i just came on this podcast to lie you are welcome to reach out to lucy lotus

03:25:50.860 i don't know who that is she's saying when your friend with the botox when she comes out and i ask

03:25:56.860 her she's gonna have that she's listening so she probably will back you up but i honestly was

03:26:02.060 standing right there and i don't even remember so i can't help you i don't know if it was her the

03:26:07.260 other girl but i did hear it was all of them it was all three of them thank you wait i was there i

03:26:12.780 i don't recall chloe yeah i was like what were they saying standing there tell me what they were

03:26:18.060 saying i was talking about how scared about me tell me about what they said about me i want to know

03:26:22.860 my whole point is you can't come on here and be like listen and don't judge when you were like

03:26:27.980 judging before you even came in here so judgmental you are so let's keep the same energy

03:26:33.260 i know you know what i totally i can't believe it's okay at the end of the day i'm still fed and

03:26:40.140 go home i don't care the end of the day i still spread my legs for money so who cares yeah you know

03:26:46.380 some disgusting cats i'm gonna die with so i just i think it's kind of messed up though that you're

03:26:51.980 judging the men for sleeping on their wives when you take money for sex that makes you worse

03:26:58.540 taking money how can you judge them for that when you're doing something that is arguably

03:27:03.580 about on the same level it's all adultery okay but hang on you said that they didn't pay you

03:27:08.940 yeah the ones that i mentioned there i did not get paid no i'm not talking about them i'm saying

03:27:13.260 in general you've been saying oh these men are pieces of crap because they cheat on their wives

03:27:17.340 with me but you're saying it's on the same level of adultery but i'm not in a committed

03:27:20.860 relationship and i don't know that just necessarily a committed relationship years ago like for a long

03:27:26.540 time adultery meant sleeping with anybody outside of being married okay so you can accuse almost

03:27:31.740 every man of that you take money for it you're not on like a higher moral ground than those men i'm

03:27:37.260 not saying i am but you're trying to attack just when you're saying they deserve it because they

03:27:41.500 cheat on their wives you are putting them below you you are saying you are worse than me because

03:27:46.540 you cheat on your wife no if anything i'd say be smarter and make people sign nda's for sure

03:27:51.180 but so cheat on your wife what you were just doing that's not what you said i mean they're

03:27:55.340 gonna do that anyway regardless of it's an escort or not 80 of the only fans do you realize how much

03:28:01.900 harder it would be do you realize how much harder it would be for those men to cheat on their wives

03:28:05.500 if no women were willing to sleep with them but but wait what what do you what that doesn't even

03:28:11.020 make an argument because it's the demand you're gonna find a woman if it's willing no if women

03:28:17.260 were chased until marriage it's not even just the men would not be sleeping and cheating on their

03:28:21.740 wives it's not even just women what about the animals who get abused the the animals

03:28:29.900 oh if we if we weren't here for them to sleep with they would just be honorable they would be

03:28:34.300 loyal they wouldn't be able to find a woman to sleep with if the women weren't willing to

03:28:37.580 something else they would get homie head okay that's why like we have so why are you going to

03:28:43.820 help them cheat on their wives i'm not helping them with anything they sought out me you're there to

03:28:50.060 do it if there was no women available to do it okay so but put this into perspective put this into

03:28:55.420 perspective okay so are you also when do you think that if you make something if you criminalize

03:29:01.020 something i'm not saying criminalize no no but hold on if you think that you're going to criminalize

03:29:05.420 something that everybody's just going to stop doing it i'm not saying criminalizing it i didn't

03:29:08.620 bring up but then what's your solution can for women to decide as a whole in the society

03:29:14.060 that it's better for society if women don't open their legs and sleep what do you think is going

03:29:18.140 to happen okay then the men won't have women just and that what they're just going to be celibate

03:29:23.020 they're not going to find anything else they might find something else but i think yeah

03:29:26.540 they do find something else they do it's children it's animals it's no no no no no no no pull up

03:29:34.620 the statistics i don't have to speak about it i'm not going to let you imply that if men aren't

03:29:39.820 sleeping with somebody they're going to go sleep with children that's not there were men that shot

03:29:42.940 up schools so ridiculous there are men who shot up schools because okay so because they're not

03:29:47.180 sleeping with somebody they're going to go shoot up schools no that's ridiculous keep talking how

03:29:51.580 did we get here okay all she's saying i lost the thread damn it men are able to cheat on their

03:29:59.180 wives because there are women available to do it with if the women were not doing that the men

03:30:06.220 would not be cheating on their wives yes they would you're so naive with who maybe not an escort but

03:30:12.700 some lady at a bar no oh they would do it with the hedge hr if all women in society decided we are

03:30:21.980 not going to sleep with men unless they marry us okay then we create an incel culture no you create

03:30:27.260 a culture where men actually work to earn it then they create women a loophole but you're giving men

03:30:33.260 morals that they don't have but if you know the ones who would do this it's not giving them morals it's

03:30:39.500 forcing that on them it's taking away the option that they graped women in the past when you

03:30:44.940 yes and what is that makes that men a piece that makes that man a piece of crap right and that's a

03:30:49.020 lot of them uh yeah and they're a lot less likely to do that she's when they have it available you're

03:30:54.540 not understanding at all because because you're naive you're no i'm not naive you are okay wait i can

03:31:00.860 help here you are good at mental gymnastics right you're like andrew tate you'll say something

03:31:06.620 and my mom works in politics so yes so b minus what did you get like i know i know i can't i can't

03:31:12.700 imagine that you were mad about how much money i make but it's like just because you didn't make

03:31:16.540 that doesn't mean other girls nobody's mad about how much i made 1.8 million thank you

03:31:20.940 and i didn't sleep with one person to do it but here okay you're good at mental gymnastics right so

03:31:26.460 she'll say something and you'll be like well men fuck dogs what she's trying to say is you cannot sell

03:31:33.420 crack and then be like well fuck these crackheads you are contributing to men i'm not saying you are

03:31:40.780 because you're saying these cheaters yeah but you are taking money no because you're trying to say

03:31:45.660 these poor men nobody's saying that you did nobody oh you exposed these men these poor men

03:31:52.380 nobody said these poor men you are you are not logically thinking this through if society as a

03:31:58.060 whole if all of the women in the whole world decided hey we aren't that's never going to happen

03:32:03.580 let me finish this is a combo let me finish it let me finish please go ahead it might not make sense

03:32:10.460 but there is a lot less cheating happening if there is no women available to cheat with there will always

03:32:16.380 be women to cheat with you're coming up with a society that doesn't fucking exist though you're

03:32:20.460 i feel like it's kind of impossible you're coming up with an ideal or you're missing the point you are

03:32:25.260 making it so so available and so easy that it is degrading society is so available and so easy that

03:32:32.780 every guy that wants to cheat on his wife is going to come do that with not you specifically but women

03:32:37.260 in general women being open for that in general is degrading society as a man deciding to cheat on his

03:32:44.060 wife is not the same as him coming to me a professional who puts herself out there as a

03:32:51.420 professional online for this type of work and paying me for a service i'm not if that is not

03:32:57.100 my fault if he's married if he's married i'm not saying it's your fault staying with their wives i'm

03:33:02.220 not saying it's your fault i exist i'm not saying it's your fault no not because you exist it's because

03:33:07.100 you're out there putting your legs open i'm not out there putting my legs there's a market for

03:33:11.420 cheaters so if there's a market in a capitalist society men are going to pay into that if they

03:33:15.340 really want that there's a market for everything correct drugs sex i just but you making it

03:33:20.100 available in that market is the reason why there's a lot of cheaters perhaps i feel like i'm falling

03:33:24.020 flat on on the concept that you were bringing up of if all women in the world didn't open their legs

03:33:31.380 for men there'd be less cheaters fucking duh yes you got it aces like but that's not a world that

03:33:37.780 will ever exist no but the less women there are doing it the harder you make it for a man to cheat

03:33:42.840 okay the less cheating is going to happen if we're talking about let's talk about japan or china and

03:33:48.380 they're why are they cheating like the issue of there being too many men because all the women left

03:33:53.420 and now they are literally hiring people from the u.s to come in and make babies they didn't all the

03:33:58.400 women didn't leave the women didn't leave they have a birth rate crisis because they were killing all

03:34:03.740 the women because the women because the women yeah it's it there's a good that was a political

03:34:09.360 decision well i'm gonna redirect this a little bit here but uh who uh you said that you effed

03:34:18.360 trevor wallace is he an athlete no he's a comedian he's like a tiktoker oh and that's pretty he's a

03:34:24.800 comedian that's kind of messed up for you to even put that out here honestly he doesn't care and i love

03:34:28.720 the statement that that started this whole conversation was that you said big time athletes

03:34:35.060 or whatever who are closeted in their sexual interests and fantasies and then you name them

03:34:43.200 they are still in those things wait can you read it again please she she wrote she wrote that she's

03:34:49.820 been asked to rim these athletes that are low-key gay but but but pretend they're not yeah they're

03:34:56.320 literally pretending they're not for a reason they ask you like i'm black because i heard black

03:35:00.300 people come up because you said that they didn't pay okay well i'm gonna make this very clear the two

03:35:05.700 names i put in there are not the men who are closeted but the two men i named were men that i slept with

03:35:12.920 and was not paid for and did not sign any confidential agreement for but they but it was a consensual

03:35:19.460 fun experience but yet online and virtually and in public these men like to pretend that they can't

03:35:25.900 associate with our industry even though they are behind closed doors all the time so yeah just

03:35:31.200 people specifically you could have just why would you talk about the stuff you're doing she didn't

03:35:35.740 name names i know but you're you're out on the street fucking a guy with a strap on and you're

03:35:40.740 gonna then judge me for what i'm doing anything about my personal life because the internet doesn't

03:35:46.220 need to know i'll give you the gist but like saying like i i honestly i don't think it was like

03:35:51.620 appropriate to go as hardcore onto you and your your past relationships anyways we have a super

03:35:57.060 chat related to this though psycho mantis 831 thank you for the super chat by her own logic

03:36:01.060 she's providing a service to people who would otherwise essay children and animals can we ask

03:36:07.000 her how she feels about giving pleasure to monsters because your position is if these men didn't go to

03:36:14.840 you for sexual release they would then commit these crimes so you're you're now sexually servicing

03:36:22.560 these monsters or predators no that's not the statement i made the statement i made was

03:36:29.500 in response to what she said which was a statement claiming you know if there were not any women in the

03:36:36.240 world who would open their legs to men until they got married that it would not happen that there would

03:36:42.280 not be you know adultery in society but that's just not true not that it wouldn't happen there

03:36:47.820 would be a lot less of it if it's a lot harder for them to access there's a lot less of it and you

03:36:52.360 responded with what about the animals and the children yeah which is what i'm saying is messed up

03:36:57.880 because what i'm saying that's what men are going to do if they're not getting sex yeah because what

03:37:01.240 i'm saying is in society protect the goat lock the goats lock up your goats because what i'm saying

03:37:08.980 the goat fuckers i mean the goat fuckers are running wild oh my god these these poor only fans

03:37:15.960 girls we ban only fans from the goats you gotta sell your goat stocks oh my god they're about to get

03:37:21.820 all kinds of you gotta get extra electric what were you saying like what point were you trying

03:37:29.140 to arrive at kids and the animals what i was saying was i'm not saying all men or anything like that but

03:37:34.660 what i'm saying is there are men who assault those you know those things it's all men and so it's no

03:37:41.540 men and so to argue that men would be so honorable that they wouldn't cheat you know more if there

03:37:49.140 were women not available is just invalid because there's men committing sexual acts to so invalid

03:37:54.820 no other things as well i can agree with so the people that are going to go out and diddle goats

03:38:01.120 are going to do they're going to do it whether or not there's women sleeping with them okay they're

03:38:05.140 doing it because that's what they want to do not because they can't get a woman necessarily i also

03:38:09.400 what about the monkeys are the monkeys at risk but at the same time you can't be like i need to

03:38:14.620 a baboon that baboon pussy off the off the chainsaw

03:38:20.300 that's the line of no brian there brian no i love dave chapelle dave chapelle has a joke on this

03:38:29.560 look oh my god i love you once you get some monkey pussy you're out of the human pussy game

03:38:34.800 once you've done fucked a monkey you can't fuck a chimp on tuesday and fuck doreen on for on

03:38:42.380 thursday it's a wrap it's a wrap you're out of the human pussy game for good was that due to monkey

03:38:47.840 pox because at some point monkey pox was a thing that was because of like that was because of like

03:38:52.080 fun fact don't get too excited but this is right there is a goat island

03:39:01.280 so if you're going to dark guys guys guys guys one at a time one at a time y'all

03:39:08.900 over talking to each other uh easy being breezy don't worry guys all these of three foes

03:39:13.660 are going to be replaced by ai chat bots and sex robots in a few years and they won't have a job

03:39:19.240 anymore and we won't have to worry about dudes doing dogs oh look at that there you go this

03:39:25.100 conversation got so dark so fast yeah i actually have a question take away money if uh only fans

03:39:33.480 gets banned in the usa have you guys thought about what you would do do you have money saved do you

03:39:39.100 have a backup plan do you have education i'm a full-time veterinary technician i never stop yeah

03:39:44.000 if you're like i got a job all gas no brakes yeah she's good she's fine what would you do

03:39:49.800 i mean i already had that job and i can go right back to it so what job what job i was i was corporate

03:39:57.040 amazon for three years so corporate amazon yeah do you have a degree did you give bezos a handy

03:40:03.680 or was that the next person you're outing or all right uh let's see also lindsey just to finish up

03:40:09.980 your notes really quick you said you've done over 200 plus scenes in your adult film career

03:40:13.940 you uh okay you said you have some interesting traumatic and surprising dating stories uh

03:40:20.820 including christianity virginity polygamy and emotional codependency although i think oh those

03:40:25.600 are your old notes we talked about some of that stuff last time what was your take though on virginity

03:40:30.000 and like in what way in what sense i've taken a lot of virginity you've taken that did you take

03:40:40.040 trevor's virginia no no no does that guy run through like half of pasadena or what yeah i'd probably

03:40:46.520 half of avn i don't know trevor yeah he fucks a bunch of of girls or oh yeah i mean that's dude young

03:40:53.260 gravy was at the avn show like that's like they're all in that world they just don't publicize it i

03:41:00.220 don't know but these guys have like a bunch of clout they make a good money they're famous whatever

03:41:04.560 why do you need a fuck of girls that's i don't understand because we do it best okay because it's

03:41:13.980 easier than getting a normal girl yeah these girls these porn stars are like oh we're we're better i'm

03:41:19.420 no i guarantee you that asian girl in the library with the glasses oh yeah she's throwing it back

03:41:24.800 better than anybody let me tell you dude that bio major the bio major wait who goes like this with

03:41:33.120 her glasses in the library and she wears sweatpants every day bro she we got like the most educated

03:41:39.480 woman here sitting at the table out of all of us i'm sure yeah you know what can i say something in

03:41:46.120 regards to that though i think a lot of times i have seen men come on this podcast bragging about

03:41:52.420 300 body counts talking about girls with like 11 bodies are disgusting and i just want to point out

03:41:58.300 that the men who are sleeping with all these women with like syphilis still coming out of their dick

03:42:03.720 have no fucking place to sit here and like tell women agree that they're gross because y'all both

03:42:11.320 are gross in my opinion i would not date a man that has a body count of like it depends on his

03:42:18.160 age to be honest but like i i have turned down i was seeing someone like a couple years ago and i

03:42:23.340 didn't sleep with him because he was 28 and told me he lost count at 48 bodies and i'm just like ew

03:42:28.780 like you don't respect sex i'm another notch in your belt you're probably not going to talk to me

03:42:33.800 tomorrow morning like i just want that sometimes on this podcast there's like some double standards

03:42:39.780 especially when it comes to body count i just want to make that very clear that you are not cool

03:42:44.240 if you go around fucking a bunch of women you are just as much of a hoe also if you're spreading

03:42:49.160 diseases spreading diseases and bb and talking about hormona sleep around a bunch and then they come and

03:42:56.100 they say but i want a virgin literally yeah wait wait hold on so i've repeatedly said that i think

03:43:03.560 promiscuity is bad in both men and women however there are just certain realities where i do think

03:43:11.000 it's the case again it's bad for both i think it's worse than women i think it's worse than women one of

03:43:16.960 the biological realities of course is the risk of uh pregnancy so when a woman's promiscuous and of

03:43:22.920 course look men can get on the hook for child support that can fuck up their lives whatever but i think

03:43:28.960 having a unintended pregnancy does have a bit larger of a burden on somebody's life than the

03:43:36.660 male component of that uh that consequence i disagree well i'm not saying that like unwanted

03:43:44.720 children are you like coming from the angle of well unwanted children are a blessing and no i'm coming

03:43:51.340 from the angle that uh if a man goes out and impregnates women he has next to no options whereas if a

03:43:57.860 woman gets pregnant there's multiple different forms we have safe haven law we have adoption

03:44:02.480 there's foster care there is um abortions whereas a man like you knock up one woman and that's it

03:44:09.280 you're financially fucked and you're trapped you're initially you don't really have a decision they say

03:44:14.000 women don't open their legs but like zip up your zipper so you're the one paying are you dumb that's

03:44:20.340 fair that's fair and i i agree with you there that if in the event the woman wants to keep it the man has

03:44:25.560 no options the woman has multiple options as to how she can kind of proceed i guess the the one-to-one

03:44:31.400 comparison i'm making though is that in the event that the woman does keep the child uh i would say

03:44:38.320 that yeah being forced to have to pay child support for 18 years for like you didn't intend or want to

03:44:45.620 get this woman pregnant that really really sucks but i also think that you know the the component

03:44:51.240 the burden on the woman there is also quite significant in that you know she's got to raise

03:44:56.500 the kid she has to financially support the child also i think that the ramifications there are

03:45:02.680 greater the child support burden is a burden but i think having to actually raise the child and also

03:45:09.280 you know there's a the woman also has to financially support it i think that's a bigger burden than the

03:45:15.300 child just strictly the child but i would disagree with you what uh what's how's that uh

03:45:21.080 well i guess it probably depends state to state but i know there are some states where the amount

03:45:25.660 of support that a single mother can get makes it so that she's hardly actually raising the child

03:45:31.400 yeah not to mention women have access to birth control so this isn't the 1900s or the 60s or the

03:45:38.560 40s or however many women are on birth control you even made a note about birth control alarms right

03:45:44.100 like we're all on birth control um so the risk is greater for men because they don't even have access

03:45:49.680 to birth control so why they could get a vasectomy there's also the risk so sorry y'all aren't on

03:45:55.820 birth control but you do escorting slash online that's risky i haven't done that since i was 22

03:46:02.660 insane actually it's not just that's insane to me because you might end up pregnant and have no clue

03:46:08.660 whose kid it is literally i'm getting an abortion regardless who's my dad well funny story but

03:46:14.500 isn't that messed up to say you'll get an abortion regardless hold on hold on takes away the man's

03:46:18.200 choice we keep going fucking everywhere we're women what do you expect and lots of people here have

03:46:24.600 adhd to the argument that i was trying to make though women do have a higher reproductive cost

03:46:29.940 i agree with you there's a there's a lot of ways that an unintended pregnancy can go she could just

03:46:35.080 abort it whatever but what i'm saying here is one of the reasons that promiscuity in women is judged a

03:46:40.100 bit more harshly and assuming you know maybe these women are in states or countries where abortion is

03:46:45.080 not legal so again yes child support is a massive burden that that is something that men have to deal

03:46:51.980 with but the actual getting pregnant and then what what that's going to mean potentially for your future

03:46:57.900 romantic and dating prospects i think single mothers tend to struggle a bit more than uh single

03:47:04.300 fathers do when it comes to dating there is a bit of a stigma there i'm not saying that it should be

03:47:09.400 the case i'm just descriptively saying that there is a bit more of a stigma when it relates to

03:47:14.540 uh single mothers another reason why it's a little bit more stigmatized too is because

03:47:19.620 if a woman has a reputation for being promiscuous if she does get pregnant through a guy that she's

03:47:27.480 seeing he might wonder is it actually his or not if she's been extremely and then that that biologically

03:47:35.620 tends to make men more jealous and more prone to hey i want a woman who hasn't been with very many

03:47:41.040 people because i want to know that when she is pregnant it is mine well it does have an evolutionary

03:47:46.840 and biological basis here also aside from just you know what i was just speaking about is prior to the

03:47:54.960 1980s when dna testing kind of came about uh how would you make a accurate 100 certain determination

03:48:02.440 whether the kid is yours the best way to do that is for her to be objectively truthfully a virgin and

03:48:09.260 have not had sex before so there's a evolutionary basis for men have a greater disgust factor towards

03:48:17.220 female promiscuity than women have a disgust factor towards male promiscuity i would say that the

03:48:22.040 like the disgust factor as it relates to like std risk that's perhaps equivalent between men and women

03:48:29.580 because both men and women can they can we can each get any of these stds from a sexual encounter

03:48:35.260 but when it comes to paternity certainty or paternity uncertainty if a man has 10 wives and they're all

03:48:42.200 loyal to him and he sleeps with all of them there's no doubt as to who the father and the mother is in

03:48:47.340 all instances but when a woman if she has 10 if she has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them at

03:48:53.580 the same time you don't know who the father is up until 40 50 years ago when we started having

03:49:01.740 dna paternity testing well so and you know even though we now have dna testing that doesn't undo

03:49:08.580 hundreds and thousands of years of evolution yeah speaking of biology um children babies when they're

03:49:16.480 born they uh most often if not always tend to look like their father because that's like a way that

03:49:22.420 human beings throughout evolution like dads have been able to identify their babies better but also

03:49:28.420 this is like this has been a conversation that's been on forever and ever and ever and i don't

03:49:33.980 necessarily agree with it my fiance is also one of those people that's like it's okay if a man you

03:49:39.400 know has more bodies than a woman but it just comes down to like women we seem to be um valued based

03:49:47.580 off of keeping ourselves more uh modest and more uh sacred i guess if you will whereas men

03:49:54.800 are valued based off of whether they can get those women so nobody is really benefiting here one is

03:50:01.100 holding off because they don't want to be less desirable and one is trying to impose on that

03:50:06.220 desirability because he wants to be more desirable you see what i mean so we're both just fucking each

03:50:10.700 other that's a really fun way yeah i have a chat coming through from claim sorry for the delay on

03:50:15.940 this man thank you i'm just surprised red top black hair is getting paid by anyone she used to deliver

03:50:22.620 packages now she receives them so far the only ones making any sense are the ones sitting next to brian

03:50:29.420 oh thank you oh there you go all right claim hey this is uh claim it's been a minute where you've been

03:50:35.040 man good to see you in the chat thank you so much for your patronage claim is a giga chad hold on

03:50:41.060 let's see here he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer hey claim this guy a couple months ago he

03:50:48.940 sent in some very generous champagne pops i do remember that claim so thank you very much for

03:50:53.080 any more patronage if somebody wants to do a champagne pop you know please can somebody

03:50:58.380 all right we have david richards it's disgusting what chair seven is doing to her

03:51:03.400 ex with the alimony massive lesson once again for men not to get married imagine taking care care of

03:51:10.620 a woman then for her to stab you in the back with alimony whose chair seven uh kate next he left her

03:51:17.280 so how is she i'm just confused talk to the question was was it dead bedroom by the end of the uh it was

03:51:24.640 rough for most of our relationship because their relationship was never very good i didn't feel

03:51:31.420 attractive he didn't do anything to make me feel attractive he was pretty clear that he wasn't

03:51:35.560 attracted to me and it's really hard to want to get naked in front of somebody when they're not

03:51:39.440 attracted to you that sucks so he married a woman he wasn't attracted to and you guys were dating for

03:51:46.200 like three months wasn't yeah we weren't dating very long and then just as when once we got married

03:51:51.680 things just kind of went down pretty quickly what a dick brian what's your longest relationship five

03:51:57.640 years so did you ever i'm it ended so i assume it wasn't great have you ever been in a relationship

03:52:03.480 with somebody where like you know maybe uh the things they promised they didn't follow through on

03:52:08.880 maybe uh they started saying some mean shit to you just because shit got tough in the relationship

03:52:14.060 like i feel like sometimes and i love this podcast but sometimes there's this overtone where it's just

03:52:20.620 like always the woman and we need to acknowledge both as men and women that there are toxic

03:52:27.140 relationships and they're definitely relationships where somebody it enters in really good that's why

03:52:32.320 people date and then sometimes shit changes sometimes you do lose attraction to the person

03:52:37.420 sometimes um you just aren't the person you said you were going to be like it's not a black and white

03:52:42.600 world let's not sit here and pretend like she's a villain just because she got and wait hold on

03:52:46.560 were you not listening to anything i just said because i said that he was a dick

03:52:51.700 yeah but i never know when you're being serious i think she's more responding to the the comment

03:52:57.400 of that oh oh that everybody oh no but you were asking me the question so i was just a bit confused

03:53:02.920 because in this situation i was a bit well i asked i asked you because you are a man on this podcast

03:53:09.940 and i feel like i am thank you i feel like if you can relate to that it might help the male audience

03:53:15.480 relate a little better and just might be a little softer you know and ultimately i don't think that

03:53:21.040 i was perfect in the relationship either neither of us were good spouses to the other person i think

03:53:26.680 he would agree with that and neither of us have ill will towards each other i wish him all the best i

03:53:31.580 think he wishes me the best um you know there's no hard feelings there between us sure um it just

03:53:38.700 was something that i think both of us did a little bit of hey i'm this person and then when you're

03:53:43.860 married three four five years into it kind of going oh wait a second i'm not that person you're not that

03:53:49.700 person you know i was 19 when i got married i didn't know who i was entirely so he was in the

03:53:56.580 military and he married you for the benefits that's kind of the impression i get no that wasn't the case

03:54:00.940 at all we wouldn't have married you three months we wouldn't have stayed together for nine years if it

03:54:04.580 was for the benefits married after three months of dating that's he wanted to get the military no

03:54:09.740 it was not for the benefits he was getting stationed somewhere else it had nothing why why would he

03:54:15.560 marry me for the benefits if he had to pay to support me after getting married to me that's a good point

03:54:20.080 that doesn't make any sense i don't know he did not marry me for the benefits okay i don't know what

03:54:24.520 the fuck this guy was doing maybe he was gay i'm liking you more and more brian here's a beard

03:54:33.860 situation or you're definitely liking you more and more also it's typical for men in the military to

03:54:38.280 get married fast is what i've thought that's a very very very common thing i don't know very they get

03:54:43.580 married very quickly and they usually pop out two or three babies very quickly it's like something in

03:54:47.820 the water with the military or something it's because if you're married you get like a spousal home

03:54:52.200 right that's right they get some property yeah depending on depending on your rank yeah ryan's

03:54:57.880 like well that would be benefits yeah don't say it right well yeah they don't have to live in the

03:55:03.540 barracks or whatever okay so stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you

03:55:09.400 can't pick seven starting why can't you pick seven why can't you pick seven because everybody will pick

03:55:14.080 seven ask kevin samuels um where are you kevin samuels eight okay what about you oh that's right yeah

03:55:20.500 five i'm a tempe five and a half i'm a portland oregon nine what about the phoenix i totally agree

03:55:29.720 with you on that because i live in seattle and it's the same as portland phoenix that's borderline

03:55:34.340 it could go either way i'm like a 6.5 6.5 in phoenix higher in phoenix than in tempe well yeah

03:55:39.460 because phoenix is a little more ghetto the area i lived in scottsdale i'm like a scottsdale

03:55:44.940 we're going for you know it's four it's decreasing yeah this is location specific

03:55:50.640 oh 100% smart nobody yourself is always location specific denver is like a scottsdale for congo

03:55:58.500 shit real low real low like one anywhere tropical or exotic or like anything i'm not gonna be top

03:56:06.940 rated what about north korea uh yeah like a 10 a 10 in north korea no depending oh yeah that's valid

03:56:15.780 same as last time 6.5 all right six oh girl you're pretty no i think like an eight okay i'm gonna say

03:56:24.840 8.2 8.2 okay what about you i'm gonna say six six okay i'm a solid two i say it all the time

03:56:32.100 actually actually i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i don't know i think i'm an eight i'm an

03:56:36.940 eight yes actually i'm 8.5 take away the tattoos i think i'd be a 10 but hey we're here

03:56:42.060 everybody makes mistakes yeah the tooth gap will be fixed thank you for the uh the shop.whatever.com

03:56:49.920 purchase thank you for getting a t-shirt there casey appreciate it i give myself a five uh okay

03:56:54.900 yeah no no two crazy ratings there i guess uh you don't think my 10 was a little wild oh did you say

03:57:01.200 10 yeah without tattoos without tattoos yeah my 8.2 was low so i'm gonna jack it up to 8.5

03:57:07.000 and then we like to round up so that's mine uh question for you can you give us a guy who you

03:57:13.100 think is a 8.5 that's in your league i guess that's in my league yeah looks wise like maybe somebody we

03:57:19.600 can google who's oh or something well all the actors are probably out of my league because we

03:57:25.360 don't come into contact with each other well not i'm not saying you would actually have an

03:57:30.000 opportunity to meet them just really brian like who would you consider who would you consider that

03:57:35.620 we would know if they're in san francisco or wherever sacramento they're not there they're

03:57:40.220 not there trust me you're not in la um i don't know i don't really know people like except for

03:57:46.120 like major actors like ryan reynolds what would you what would you ryan reynolds is he white

03:57:50.040 yeah it's the deadpool guy oh the deadpool guy yeah white guys actually i'm opening up myself to

03:57:56.660 date white men so if you're okay idris elba like what would you rate idris elba what what if you

03:58:03.440 elba is like a straight nine yeah all right so you're 0.5 below idris elba idris elba i mean

03:58:11.740 yes who was that he's uh he's in the dark tower you can pull it up he was in the running to be

03:58:18.940 james bond he was in the office

03:58:20.320 oh yeah

03:58:25.360 with the accent but he's married i don't i don't break up homes so that's out 10 years ago he's

03:58:32.460 already off the table i think i think if you take away the actor part of it and him being a successful

03:58:37.680 actor if he was a normal dude yeah 100 yeah you've got it 100 what she could she could i could hit

03:58:44.720 that i think she could hit that now yeah i think she could hit me well he's like a good kind

03:58:48.300 he did in the fun way no maybe not my ass not my face

03:58:51.380 wait brian what did you rate yourself five five why not just because you don't want us to say

03:58:58.820 anything yeah why no because i i would i would if you can't say seven i would say an eight but why

03:59:03.760 would you say a five hold on because i'm average he's thinking critically i'm average he's being

03:59:09.160 realistic coming up with some magical maybe feel good numbers oh at least

03:59:13.720 an eight in north korea

03:59:18.420 yes i'm i'm getting unalived in north korea

03:59:23.080 they're like we can't have this white boy fucking a north korean one you're like a tin in thailand can

03:59:28.660 you is there like i wonder if there's hookup culture in in north korea i don't think they're

03:59:33.140 worried about it they're starving they're starving they're literally starving and

03:59:36.960 they're starving with scissors they have no food what if some like playboy fuck boy went to north

03:59:41.540 korea and he'd fuck too many north korean women and they just fucking imprisoned him for being a

03:59:46.200 fucking slut they probably would um they would kill him my my the person is doing my blackout tattoo on

03:59:53.620 my leg um they they noticed my split tongue and they told me that's right yeah reference okay there

04:00:00.180 you go uh if i was in like north korea or south korea i'd probably either be executed or like put

04:00:06.620 in jail they'd call us witches yeah what you're witches witches so with the salem witch trials

04:00:11.920 would come back if you and i were there they were literally like oh no way that would not happen in

04:00:17.180 my country ah you must be pretty bummed that you can't travel to north yeah i'm pretty sad about it

04:00:23.780 honestly all right okay well good time um oh going around the table do you think you'll be

04:00:29.560 better looking better looking in 10 years time starting with you so you're 27 better looking at 37

04:00:36.480 i definitely believe i will start faltering in my looks and i mean with working out and different

04:00:47.560 botoxes or surgeries or whatever you can stay looking like the same like beyonce surgery or no

04:00:54.040 surgery i don't i don't believe i'll look so so let's do this though for this question uh no plastic

04:01:01.740 surgery okay no plastic surgery and you remain your same weight i don't believe i would be more

04:01:07.480 attractive 10 years from now um okay i mean i'm already 27 yeah and i feel like i'm at the most

04:01:13.800 attractive i've ever been in my life right now compared to me before well yeah so say compared

04:01:18.860 to 18 more attractive now versus 18 okay yeah and then it was weird lindsey uh 29 will you be better

04:01:26.440 looking at 39 no into the mic please no uh okay and then were you better looking at 19 no so better

04:01:33.920 looking now yes okay uh for you you're 29 better looking in 10 years time at 39 no okay and then were

04:01:41.100 you better looking 10 years ago at 19 also no so better looking now yeah now jade yeah the warwick

04:01:48.660 report uh 27 better looking in 10 years time stunning forever look at her stunning no um i think i'm at

04:01:55.580 my peak right now um now so better looking than let's say like 18 19 we talked about this last time

04:02:01.640 because i fixed my teeth so disregard disregard previous convos okay fine well i had british teeth

04:02:07.100 you know 10 years ago right now i got braces so if your teeth had been just as good as they are now

04:02:12.540 10 years ago but i would have been more attractive i have more like collagen in my face or you just

04:02:17.600 kept your mouth closed oh ryan ryan yeah no it's just what the the mouth closed now versus mouth

04:02:26.820 closed look at her face how could you do that she's perfect we wouldn't have been able to tell

04:02:31.500 you see your teeth okay uh okay thanks thanks okay thanks bye thanks for playing 20 you're 28 better

04:02:38.820 looking in 10 years time at 38 i think i look great at 38 will you be just as good she has botox in her

04:02:47.640 face it doesn't count me i have botox in my face yeah where but i take very really quick

04:02:53.280 really quick like i do nda i do all that good stuff show fans who here has had botox

04:02:58.400 show fans show fans my forehead would not like this if i had a lip filler lip filler

04:03:04.200 i used to have no lips lip flip anybody had the lip flip what's that nothing like labia

04:03:10.500 your lips on your face

04:03:14.680 any fake boobs or bbl yes okay i love them what do you have bbl you have a bbl it looks really good

04:03:25.500 it looks amazing it's the best bbl i've ever seen okay all right and then uh so wait you said better

04:03:33.440 looking at 38 what about 20 years time 48 um i think i still look good i think my goal is to look as

04:03:39.680 young as possible forever so i'm gonna do everything and anything i know you're not a natural beauty

04:03:45.000 you could be very striking oh my god nick um okay okay if you did it before now and me 19 it's

04:03:55.180 literally day and night i feel like i look way better now day and night wait so okay then uh how

04:04:02.020 about 30 years 58 50 or 58 i think i'm gonna look good i don't know i'm gonna be when's your

04:04:09.660 peak when's your peak gonna be like when i'm ugly when's the hottest oh i'm dead

04:04:14.620 i'll embalm you i'll make you look good girl my peak i think when i turned 30 okay so in like two

04:04:24.160 years yeah and then uh were you better looking now or were you better looking 10 years ago at 20 or

04:04:29.400 18 now 19 i was like a crackhead were you actually a crackhead though uh yeah i actually had to go to

04:04:37.520 rehab and i did a whole bunch of drugs oh yes yes yes yes what what uh was your um i've actually

04:04:44.900 been sober from heroin and pills for six years now congratulations that's hard work good job

04:04:52.440 and that was my high school boyfriend he dated me when i was like i was thinking i was 15 and he was

04:04:59.220 like 25 oh my god yeah girl you're a victim wait that happened a lot i thought we were in love

04:05:05.760 okay and then i did it another one and then what about you what about you so i'm almost 29 you're 29

04:05:13.600 almost yeah she is black do you see how black women age they don't they just have their second

04:05:18.480 20s like they do not they do not age pretty chocolate around here but um better looking in

04:05:24.880 10 years time i think aging happens in waves especially for women so some people look better

04:05:31.140 obviously there's a peak biologically like 19 20 21 so i think when i'm 38 i'll be beautiful in a

04:05:38.100 different way i'm already but will you compared to how you look now will you be better looking

04:05:42.100 in a different way yes does that make sense like in a like i'm looking forward to aging

04:05:48.740 gracefully i'm looking forward to aging gracefully 20 years time 49 same looking same response 30

04:05:55.780 years time 59 differently beautiful 40 years time 69 and in the same way let's just jump ahead 109

04:06:02.660 i'm dead i will probably look like a skeleton yes our skeleton is beautiful unless let's ask the chat

04:06:09.920 all right and then are you are you better looking now or were you better looking 10 years ago at 19

04:06:15.900 uh no i was not better looking when i was 19 okay going to kate you're 37 better looking in 10 years

04:06:22.560 time at 47 no okay and then going back 10 years better looking at 27 or now at 37 i would say i look

04:06:29.060 better now but that has to do with i was overweight i didn't have great skin i had short hair other

04:06:34.220 things you know if i had how much weight did you lose um i've lost 90 pounds

04:06:40.560 you're gonna clap for that at least brian so i was i was pretty chunky at 20 at that age you know

04:06:50.300 at 27 28 and what about uh 18 though better looking at 18 um or were you also chunky i wasn't chunky at

04:06:57.820 18 but i had short hair and piercings and didn't do any lesbian yes exactly oh i got accused of that

04:07:04.580 a lot all right so no i was not better looking i kid i kid if i if i had long hair and things like

04:07:12.280 that i definitely would have been better looking back then than i am now but given that i was not

04:07:17.320 styling myself if you had your same style at 18 as you do now you'd say you were better looking yes okay

04:07:22.740 uh chloe you're 28 better looking in 10 years time at 38 oh definitely i'm aging like

04:07:29.040 fine i'm actually upset with you because i sent you the perfect picture to use and you used a picture

04:07:35.360 from when i was like 21 no no a better picture that was like 10 years ago i didn't recognize my tattoo

04:07:44.660 and that one shows your tattoo pull it pull it up for the people it's not about your it's not about

04:07:49.060 how you looked it was about that showed your tattoo better no but i want to know if i look

04:07:53.080 better now versus five years ago oh you gotta pull it up you gotta ask the people um because

04:07:58.180 yeah if anyone says yes i'm gonna be offended because i was like anorexic and unwell yeah you

04:08:03.540 should start having us provide a photo from 10 years ago and then let the chat decide no i

04:08:08.180 definitely look better yeah that's a good idea oh i was also fast i do think there it is difficult

04:08:14.700 though because if you go back even to 2014 2015 like people photos that people post on instagram

04:08:20.020 man people put on these weird filters and i don't use filters that's what i'm saying bring out my

04:08:26.560 phone it's hard to compare the camera still don't lie unless the lighting and you know everything's

04:08:32.000 the same it is hard to do comparisons and then like there's a style component yeah like the style

04:08:37.120 from 10 years ago is very can be very i dress the exact same as i did when i was a teenager

04:08:41.960 exact same uh you're 28 10 going back 10 years would you say you're better looking now or better

04:08:48.200 looking no absolutely not i'm better looking better now okay what we have done is we have

04:08:53.680 put all of you through oh no ai we've aged all of you and we're gonna see

04:09:00.400 if you guys are going to be better looking oh by the way chloe better looking 20 years 48 i'm curious

04:09:09.880 the photos you use no i've i've put yeah what photos you use don't worry

04:09:14.080 but better looking 20 years i've used the snapchat aging filter so prepared my fiance says i still

04:09:22.180 look hot so i'm gonna go with his opinion but uh better looking in 20 years time then my fiance

04:09:26.980 you found the right guy then oh yeah for chloe better looking in 20 years time at 48

04:09:31.120 well who's asking uh i don't know just like and like do i feel like i'll be prettier yeah do you

04:09:37.700 think you'll be better i'm gonna get botox and shit are you crazy no of course not uh all right so

04:09:42.980 actually you know what before we do this i want um go to the discord i've been meaning to pull this up

04:09:51.340 for months but i always forget go to discord and then nick you're gonna scroll down in the discord

04:09:57.020 you're gonna scroll down to all the way down to the resources uh category and you're gonna go to

04:10:05.780 looks are you doing a side by side as well because i feel like it's only fair are you in looks you can

04:10:11.880 just go to window anybody else want to see brian as an old man yeah oh i do it too scroll up there

04:10:17.960 oh my goodness all right scroll up scroll up so i've i've wanted to just show some comparisons from

04:10:25.280 some like famous people uh so we're just gonna tab through just click on the first one from brooke

04:10:29.160 shields uh okay so this is brooke shields when she was young now she's a bit older next we're gonna

04:10:34.380 just go through these pretty quick next next guys this is just aging next right right i'm confused

04:10:40.200 next they have access to so much money like they should be aging just fine and then x out of that

04:10:44.680 so okay you know a lot of people saying they're gonna be oh we got britney we got britney click on

04:10:49.180 the first one if you have the money you maintain yourself next this is like asking if an eight-year-old

04:10:54.500 has better skin than a 60 year old next that also matters okay next hey you leave britney

04:11:01.240 next she's not well next she's not what next trying guys oh next all right quiet quiet man

04:11:11.020 next okay oh american pie tara reed okay uh next aggressive next by the way this is from american

04:11:22.080 that's american pie too so this is uh 2022 23 24 25 years of aging uh you know just putting it out

04:11:30.040 there he looks good still next next next guys just to prove that like women get ugly as they age i

04:11:39.280 don't get it what's the point of this segment that they age well everybody ages but nobody here thought

04:11:45.260 that we don't there's a lot of cope there and look i put a guy too okay just one go ahead just one

04:11:50.280 though look up look up the cast of seinfeld and see how they're looking there you go whoa that's him

04:11:56.100 he looks pretty damn good yes look he's still good he's still good but so you're saying men have it

04:12:01.220 easier when they age okay no that's not what i'm saying okay i'm saying he's clearly better looking

04:12:06.160 when he was younger yeah like click the first everybody i'm just failing to understand the

04:12:11.460 purpose of this well maybe not on the first one tab go through them again really quick

04:12:16.660 like he was more handsome he was beautiful yeah he's a beautiful man like he's not a bad looking

04:12:21.920 older guy but he's obviously lost some of his looks exile that yeah exile that okay then we'll do

04:12:28.900 pam anderson boom okay yeah i kind of like him better now too yeah i think he's um and then we'll

04:12:37.680 do evangeline lily she's on lost very attractive woman there she's a bit older she's gorgeous still

04:12:44.060 good what okay what is hold on wait nick go back okay here's young evangeline okay next let me ask that

04:12:54.320 okay wait actually hold on she also didn't hardly have any makeup on i was gonna say

04:12:59.500 let me ask you the question you're using glam shots i don't get it picture one go over she's

04:13:07.600 got some event picture two yes but how did people are prettier when they're younger picture one which

04:13:12.880 one's more attractive picture one she's loaded with makeup i want to see her at that age

04:13:17.100 like flash photography oh my god here go back go back here go the first one i want to know what

04:13:22.200 the point of this is she will get to make women feel bad about aging also professional photo

04:13:27.320 calm down brian all right this is one next point of this i'm telling you this is the similar

04:13:34.160 not going to be hurt if you like honestly answer she looks good still she's wearing more makeup

04:13:39.220 but she was obviously more attractive when she was she's still attractive there but i'm at the

04:13:45.340 peak of her career in law here next when she was hella young obviously she looked really good

04:13:50.000 uh next wait hold on okay let me just address it okay since you guys aren't going to be good faith

04:13:57.300 about this so trying when it comes to uh when it comes to just reality a lot of people want to cope

04:14:05.360 and say that they're going to be like who was the one who said they'll be better looking at 100

04:14:09.360 or whatever i said i'd be a skeleton it has nothing to be a sexy skeleton come on like i i why can't

04:14:17.800 people just operate in reality we are i think most of the women why do you care but this isn't something

04:14:24.740 like i think men also look worse as they start to age no so it's not like something no but that's not

04:14:30.800 true though way better like i have the fat okay fine you think that i don't fucking care i'm talking

04:14:36.640 about my position because you guys are doing a critique of my position and my position is not

04:14:42.740 a gendered one it's a generalized position that as people age they look worse they tend to become

04:14:49.560 less attractive for you i agree but it's not about making it's not about making women feel bad it's

04:14:56.580 just a lot of women do this cope of most of the girls here agreed that they won't look as good

04:15:01.480 10 years this is like doing a bladder test and be like well when you're 20 your bladder works better

04:15:06.480 i'm just confused brian you confuse me man what is confusing about i think i don't understand the

04:15:11.260 point brian what are you not understanding about the point he's trying to say like people out here

04:15:16.620 act like they're going to be beautiful forever or that they're going to have like this youthful

04:15:21.340 and like the ability to use that youthfulness but who cares oh like use it to like what like

04:15:27.860 sell your bodies or something if you're asking only fans models if they think they'll still be

04:15:32.480 able to sell ass by the time they're 80 i feel like that's a more valuable question like you know

04:15:36.960 i think it's more so just the annoyance at at the not living in reality i mean i think it's a

04:15:43.560 sexual i want to be nice i want i don't want to hurt anybody's feelings it's a gender breakdown though

04:15:47.540 men tend to great to age more gracefully than women especially if they have access to money we

04:15:53.400 just saw a beautiful man up there women have to earn that once they get over a certain age

04:15:58.520 threshold because they've had it earlier in their life which means you can capitalize off of it

04:16:02.240 which is what you're doing right now only fans is that right you're capitalizing your beauty

04:16:05.700 because you can't go back exactly and it's harder for men to do that when they get older click

04:16:09.920 evangeline lily click on the fifth the fifth one because we didn't get to see the other one

04:16:16.920 okay so you guys were saying well it's a selfie versus a blah blah blah okay here you go

04:16:22.280 here she's on the red carpet next on the red carpet i feel like i need to on the red carpet

04:16:29.860 same same thing you know what she's aged a bit she's she's not as she's not as fuckable perhaps

04:16:36.960 she's still an attractive woman exactly exactly she's ugly but she's aged she's not as attractive

04:16:42.900 when she was younger yes that's the point of this is there's a lot of cope that's like

04:16:47.400 oh as a woman i'm just gonna forever be more and more attractive it's like no as you get older your

04:16:54.220 options are gonna start i didn't hear very many women here say that though that they would be

04:16:58.600 attractive just as attractive in 20 years most of them said they're not going to be as attractive

04:17:02.960 or in a different way because there are people who are aging gracefully who are very attractive in

04:17:07.540 their age that they're in some women are delusional in that oh i'm gonna look like i'm 21 when i'm like

04:17:12.300 85 obviously that's not true if you're living in reality but okay there were women who did say that

04:17:18.720 there would be better 10 20 30 40 50 years ahead and while it might be the case that this panel is

04:17:24.940 perhaps a bit more based in reality we've had other panels where almost every single panelist

04:17:29.920 says oh yeah i'm gonna be better at at 35 45 55 60 and it's like you're not going to be more

04:17:37.640 attractive that's fair okay i think we all agree on that don't we because why are we attractive it's

04:17:43.400 because we are programmed to mate with each other and reproduce so when we are younger we are our most

04:17:49.660 fertile and healthiest so as humans we are programmed to find younger people attractive

04:17:54.420 that's a fact i don't think anyone's arguing that's true and that's just life life happens age happens and

04:18:01.120 people who have more access to capital can usually age more gracefully than those who are like below the

04:18:06.480 poverty line obviously so she's a actress who's made millions of dollars she should look a little

04:18:11.860 bit better but also that was a photo in her like like behind a refrigerator or something that brings

04:18:16.840 us to the discussion that was more natural 20 year olds and 25 year olds are looking like 35 year olds

04:18:22.740 now because they started at 19 doing botox and facelifts and all this and now they look like they're

04:18:30.620 so much older than they actually are and then that's a broader discussion to have like why do women feel

04:18:36.320 like they need to start so early with that stuff you know why because we're told that we are going to

04:18:41.560 be ugly when we're 40 and 50 brian brian it's look it's just it's just reality it's just the reality as

04:18:52.820 people age and again this is applies to both men and women you become less desirable less desirable to who

04:18:59.880 though do it like i don't i i think the goal should be to find one person that you want to be with for

04:19:06.000 the rest of your life so that when you do age they still find you can you go to the memes in the

04:19:10.420 resources and that's why they still love so that you feel validated forever no not validated it's

04:19:16.320 that when somebody loves you even when you're 80 and you're wrinkly they're still going to look at

04:19:20.520 you and go click on that you are beautiful because i love you for more than you'll make us a bit smaller

04:19:26.000 there i mean dating is jacked up that way it would be that's better so oh no i'm getting old plastic

04:19:32.360 surgery ah that's honestly i don't think the plastic surgery makes women look better on this

04:19:36.440 most of the time i think certain things sometimes but but like that where they botch

04:19:42.740 themselves they look worse so their face up to their skull uh okay we're gonna do the ai

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04:21:21.120 so we will get right into the ai age advancement wait so my adopted mom shout out to her love you mom

04:21:29.620 this was her at 28 okay that's me little me okay this is my mom 28 years old same age you can show

04:21:37.480 it to the camera show the camera let me just try to we can't get any closer than that unfortunately

04:21:43.640 okay okay okay this will be more for you guys this is my mom now you want to tell me my mom didn't age

04:21:50.980 up she is 40 you want to tell me my mom doesn't look better in her 40s than she did at 28 yes good

04:21:58.320 stunning you guys can't show me the other one again this one and then

04:22:02.520 super chat but she's stunning she aged very very well yep so that was like what's the gap 15 years

04:22:14.040 20 years uh i was 13 here i'm 28 now 15 years 15 years yeah well it looks like she lost a bit of

04:22:21.480 weight that also helps what hey now you're not about to fat shame my mom but this is i mean she's

04:22:28.540 she's but she did yes she did nope nope these are just professional shots no okay well but again this

04:22:33.320 was a model she's comparing like she's just pretty to like a selfie but that's what you just did you

04:22:38.740 just showed models on the red carpet versus that one girl in her home well but i showed like pretty

04:22:44.560 identical that was one of the batch but there was six photos and uh four of those were equivalent

04:22:51.440 comparisons but can we i'm not offended here by the way i just want to point out that there are

04:22:55.920 women and i look at my mom it's like inspiration i hope i age like that because my mom looks so good

04:23:01.740 at 40 and she looked good at 28 but like does she not look better come on you'd hit it sorry mom

04:23:08.300 i think she's watching i love you mom i mean you better say hi to my mom look i'm willing to

04:23:13.280 i'm willing to grant that there are women who remain attractive into their 40s and 50s

04:23:19.580 uh or it's even possible or implausible that the woman could be more attractive at

04:23:24.780 45 versus 35 or 25 or whatever you hear that mom possible but when i'm speaking here in

04:23:32.260 generalities i'm not trying to make the point that it's impossible or that this doesn't exist but

04:23:37.760 when i'm speaking here again in generalities and i would say that generally speaking as women age

04:23:43.180 they become less attractive true that's it we agree that's it yeah we agree with that okay

04:23:49.260 some women don't okay okay so oh we were gonna do the thing uh let's do the thing all right so we

04:23:59.720 have aged advanced all of you oh my god fuck it if you have my tattoos sag into the floor i'm gonna be

04:24:07.980 so mad i think i'll just look like my mom all right we're like identical go for it

04:24:14.620 oh yep i look like i look like my grandma i like how you just get squintier

04:24:18.460 i know your eyes just go away the sources what i'm gonna move the sources okay yeah i just look

04:24:25.500 like my grandma oh look at her oh that's cute all right i do not like that let's do next take it

04:24:36.520 i'm scared i'm scared i'm so scared i look like my dad

04:24:41.560 i like it

04:24:44.600 it's not that bad it's not bad that's bad all right lindsey's posture check

04:24:53.480 my my front hurts i'm sorry oh okay all right next

04:24:59.640 i joke about wanting to be an old crone on the corner in a house that everyone's afraid of but

04:25:12.680 i didn't think it would be that bad

04:25:14.120 i don't know oh no all right there you go all right next

04:25:21.400 that looks like

04:25:23.560 yeah that one looks a lot like a

04:25:26.920 i don't want to see it all right jade

04:25:29.160 i look racist

04:25:32.200 wait you look great okay

04:25:37.240 i'm so scared for mine oh god

04:25:40.120 lady lives in the moon oh my god

04:25:41.560 next

04:25:45.400 these are not bad

04:25:46.280 these are not terrible

04:25:47.240 take that off

04:25:49.560 oh no

04:25:53.240 oh my god

04:25:54.120 we can be old ladies together

04:25:56.840 let's go

04:25:57.560 you're like winnie the pooh

04:25:58.760 all right

04:26:00.200 oh

04:26:01.480 next

04:26:02.040 oh my god

04:26:04.840 beautiful in a different way

04:26:07.400 the chins have always been my weakest part

04:26:10.120 look at the chins

04:26:10.840 i love it though

04:26:12.120 why is it so

04:26:12.840 i don't know how many

04:26:14.200 you are not gonna age like that

04:26:15.560 those are veneers

04:26:19.320 that middle one's pretty accurate

04:26:21.320 i think yeah the last one

04:26:22.840 i don't know about the last one yeah

04:26:24.680 look like a titan or something

04:26:27.240 attack on titan

04:26:28.440 i'll take it

04:26:30.120 all right next

04:26:32.760 this is brutal okay

04:26:35.960 worst fear these are not that like

04:26:38.280 i've seen much worse

04:26:40.680 kate thoughts

04:26:43.000 i don't mind it that's how i'm gonna look

04:26:45.080 when i'm old all right there you go

04:26:47.080 i'll hate it it's whatever next

04:26:49.640 oh

04:26:51.080 sexy old lady come on

04:26:53.000 come on brian

04:26:59.640 you like that baby that's what you got to look forward to

04:27:03.320 nice

04:27:03.800 how bad

04:27:04.680 i like how all of our lips just slowly get

04:27:07.000 yeah i know

04:27:07.560 no wrinkles

04:27:09.160 oh yeah

04:27:09.880 you don't actually look bad

04:27:12.680 wow

04:27:14.200 i'm looking at him

04:27:15.800 but how long ago was that picture

04:27:17.400 yeah what about a picture from

04:27:18.920 like 10 years ago

04:27:21.880 no you gotta be fair be a good sport

04:27:23.960 do a recent picture

04:27:24.920 do we have older photos yeah you gotta be a good

04:27:27.320 sport

04:27:27.560 we've had this before

04:27:28.760 literally take a selfie right now

04:27:30.200 yeah

04:27:30.360 what do you look like without a beard

04:27:33.640 oh that's why

04:27:35.400 whoa

04:27:35.800 oh my goodness

04:27:36.680 i guess uh okay do we have the gender

04:27:39.160 swaps

04:27:40.040 like until

04:27:41.720 this better look for you

04:27:43.000 because i'm a dude man

04:27:45.320 i should have been a man

04:27:47.480 yeah every time i've ever done this i'm

04:27:49.240 like i was just like my dad

04:27:51.000 i'm way cuter as a dude yeah

04:27:53.400 unless they use like a bad one

04:27:54.920 maybe not but

04:27:56.440 it always reminds me of my brother

04:27:57.880 and it creeps me out

04:28:00.040 my brother looks like me with a beard

04:28:01.640 all right

04:28:02.200 uh lucy

04:28:03.320 lucy lotus love you lindsey i paid for this

04:28:05.560 shit sorry i can't be there

04:28:07.240 i love you what is she is she recovering from

04:28:09.320 ebola or something flu

04:28:11.480 what flu

04:28:12.360 no she got sick

04:28:13.320 she was gonna be

04:28:14.280 she was our good friend lucy lotus was gonna be here tonight

04:28:18.120 but it is the case she got ebola she got super ebola

04:28:21.160 she definitely has ebola don't worry it's not an std

04:28:24.040 lucy goosey i'll stand she just has ebola

04:28:26.120 it's incurable she told me i'll show you the messages she was like

04:28:29.080 i have ebola sorry i have a really fun video of her but i can't show it on here

04:28:32.840 oh okay all right she's just outing everybody today

04:28:38.360 thank you lucy good friend she would want me friends of the podcast lucy lotus there we've got

04:28:43.720 big big legend clane here

04:28:46.760 brave and a decent man coming in with a message thank you man

04:28:51.400 claim donated 200 appreciate it brother all things being equal no one will ever look better

04:28:57.400 in 10 years after 25 you can lose weight work out or get plastic but if nothing changes you will

04:29:05.480 not look better that goes for men and women yeah the scenario would be assume you're in the best

04:29:11.000 health ever you don't have any weight to lose you're not like binge drinking or whatever there

04:29:17.320 there's no scenario where really you're looking better under those circumstances if you stay the

04:29:23.320 same you know physicality health weight and you age 10 10 years 20 years you're not gonna look better

04:29:31.320 claim i appreciate that sorry for the delay on your last one but i got that one pretty much

04:29:36.680 instantly uh to make up for it so thank you clay and i do appreciate your message there

04:29:41.880 grift queen people taking advice from roma lol she built her channel and became relevant being a

04:29:47.080 men's rights activist talked down on only fans and then started her own after convincing simps she was

04:29:53.080 different is that why am i not surprised this is a woman i never had an only fans but keep hating

04:29:59.720 thanks for the money haters gonna hate paid 100 bucks just to say something inaccurate how embarrassing

04:30:06.760 so embarrassing so embarrassing all right gender swap so the question is

04:30:11.960 the question is would you date yourself if you were a dude if you were a man oh yeah am i about to see

04:30:21.320 pictures oh yeah oh i thought we were talking like personality i'm like yeah kill it oh god all right so

04:30:27.480 kind of always as long as if they don't give me facial hair no like me as a man yeah wait all

04:30:33.000 right yeah like you see the picture would you be a dude give us beards boom what the

04:30:37.720 fuck oh they use a crappy sofa what the fuck was that wait what he's like that looks too good take

04:30:47.080 it off some fucking zoolander i didn't even use the half brother that looks like that does he look like

04:30:53.720 he looks exactly like me but a guy for me it's he's cute in his own right uh lucy lucy lotus i would

04:31:03.480 think i was lucy lotus she does confirm that she was uh yeah it was super bowl and full-on double

04:31:10.440 dragoning what is double what is double dragon isn't that like a google it street fighter move or

04:31:17.560 something yes wait double dragon isn't that where cum comes out of your nose isn't that the

04:31:22.600 dumb am i tripping am i thinking about something else yeah that's a video game with the vape when

04:31:26.840 you blow the vape out it's called double dragon what is that love this confused double dragon wait

04:31:33.320 nick here i'm gonna send this to you go to private chat such a hot pic she chose for her

04:31:38.280 lucy send some champagne with your slut money yeah lucy shut up shut up streamlabs.com

04:31:44.200 slash whatever for 999 we will pop a ball of champagne on your behalf and then there was

04:31:51.560 this one too right here pull pull that up nick pull this one up also double dragon oh wait it's

04:31:57.560 not gonna pull the second one whatever just pull the first one should be whatever she's paying for

04:32:02.280 this with my slut money uh go okay double dragon beat him up game came out in 1987 anyways whatever

04:32:10.600 before our time all right so i was way off this one's crazy though oh f11 this please uh let's

04:32:16.840 we'll go back to the gender i guess you're using urban dictionary right we'll go back to the gender

04:32:23.720 swaps okay that's crazy i like that you look like my ex different person yeah you actually look like

04:32:30.840 my ex that's so weird why are you wearing like a red suit my eye yeah right my eyes

04:32:37.240 he just gets smaller done some crazy shit okay all right oh my god next i think i'm cute i'd date me

04:32:43.560 oh okay huh oh okay kind of cute definitely so would you date you look like john mayer no because i look

04:32:55.240 like my dad i would not date that so would you not date the male version of you no because that

04:33:01.160 looks like my dad i'm good okay did you say you would date the male version of you if it looks like

04:33:05.400 that that's not what i would look like if i was a dude okay all right next i'm scared

04:33:11.000 weird yeah we're gonna go with no at least you have facial hair he looks innocent

04:33:19.880 that beard is pretty much it's creepier and creepier as the slide goes by

04:33:26.360 oh my god okay no nope all right next

04:33:30.040 what you know what girl where's your chin oh where oh there it's like he's on one direction

04:33:40.520 would you date the male version of you yes

04:33:46.280 no the eyes look really just messed up that's really messed up his eyes are wonky

04:33:53.400 i don't like it you just need a proper slap

04:33:56.280 i think he's i think he's pretty handsome you're the i would date your male version i think he's

04:34:00.520 pretty handsome i'd date him yeah got it no no you don't date your male version next

04:34:07.160 whoa you're asian now

04:34:10.280 okay i don't want to be asian whoa that kind of looks like jade's boyfriend look at the first one

04:34:18.920 it doesn't even that's your boyfriend jade what's really is that what you saw us together yeah

04:34:23.720 um you look kind of hot no we look like who did these these are horrible these are terrible

04:34:30.920 yeah why yeah you're asian

04:34:36.360 i'm gonna be a white guy and gender swap

04:34:38.280 i'm gonna turn into a white gender swap me i identify it

04:34:46.280 all right oh man um next

04:34:49.800 it turned me into a typical black man oh yeah awesome would you date the male version of you

04:35:00.440 um yes because i'm obsessed with me look at that smile though what

04:35:06.040 you got like looking at the middle picture the middle picture maybe not the other one

04:35:10.360 the last one got a little wonky literally what

04:35:16.280 next i would date the male version i was hoping to be white okay my bad oh

04:35:20.920 would you date the male version of you no

04:35:24.840 no

04:35:27.000 it reminds me too much of my brother oh okay that's beard on beard off you look pretty hot

04:35:33.000 you wouldn't date the male version of you i mean maybe i'd have to see him in person

04:35:36.280 all right see if it reminds me of my brother or not he's wearing a sleeveless button-down

04:35:43.240 shirt yeah right he looks like a frat bro right good look all right chloe here we go

04:35:50.760 whoa

04:35:55.800 smash smash and you were worried you wouldn't make a hot dude with the tattoos though that's

04:36:00.760 going immediately smash you look like freddie mercury i kind of do yeah

04:36:06.120 the dual line though right a little bit like the beard is going the beard is a good one

04:36:12.360 you got the freddie mercury hair i think maybe you should try growing a beard out it might up

04:36:16.920 your up your level all right next oh you're so cute oh my god interesting

04:36:24.360 wait why did yours do it so well i think the bottom the bottom looks better

04:36:28.440 the bottom's better kind of scary a little bit for both i guess but uh the top is a bit the top

04:36:36.520 looks like you could be sisters with lucy the top one kind of like alexandria dark bob yeah

04:36:42.920 like jody aries in the top one actually got that twinkle of psycho

04:36:49.320 or whatever or uh she she killed her boyfriend she killed her boyfriend

04:36:53.480 oh wait who's the one that got off am i thinking of somebody casey anthony

04:36:59.080 she killed their kid allegedly they didn't they didn't catch her and now she was illegal

04:37:03.400 yeah now now she wants to be our advocate wait did she start an of no no i called it

04:37:09.960 i thought she did i'm about to win a thousand bucks if she did no way can we confirm this

04:37:15.160 no no no sorry sorry i'm wrong i think she just started wait she started like a tick tock

04:37:19.160 she started a tick tock because she wants she's like i want to be here for the little people

04:37:24.360 fun fact casey anthony has blocked me on tick tock oh wow why girl you were

04:37:29.800 what did you do i just made some oh because no she was on a date she was out dating and i was like

04:37:35.640 imagine ending up on a date with casey anthony like what do you even talk about oh what do you like

04:37:40.200 to do casey hide things like what do you even talk to casey anthony about oh my god she didn't

04:37:48.760 like that she blocked me oh man good times yeah like casey wait bring a side by side of casey anthony

04:37:55.400 and yours oh i lost it no he did i lost it it's gone you lost it because you know it's true

04:38:01.800 pictures might have created a complex in me i might be into girl you now

04:38:07.720 all right i can take that photo home right yeah we are gonna get back into the rest of the show

04:38:13.720 notes here so let's see one moment here okay we are going to do uh kate oh wait she's she's

04:38:26.040 gone kenna you describe yourself as single as you said your craziest dating story oh you talked

04:38:36.600 about the being catfished by trans men we talked about that already you wanted to talk about getting

04:38:42.040 male input on why body count is so significant uh if it's something anyone can lie about what did you

04:38:48.280 mean by that oh if it's you're saying yeah like technically right anybody can lie about their body

04:38:54.680 count so why does it have such a significance behind it is it just because the rest of like

04:38:59.880 the societal judgment and what is considered normal or okay for women versus men because everybody like

04:39:06.520 might know like what the body count is or like if you're in like a small town or a small community

04:39:12.440 everyone may have more judgment on knowing that the girl was promiscuous with a bunch of men

04:39:17.480 and so like have knowledge of it and then that is like what people are thinking about because

04:39:22.200 technically somebody could say i'm a virgin or i've been with two people and they could have been

04:39:26.600 with 50 people and you don't technically know lucy lotus are you still in the chat lucy she she told

04:39:32.840 her first boyfriend in high school or something she had a uh or maybe it was after high school i

04:39:37.000 forget the exact details she had a body count of three in reality the body count was over 100 in high

04:39:42.680 school you already slept with three people no she actually slept with over a hundred but she told

04:39:48.840 her boyfriend there are a lot of people that lose their virginity between 15 and 17 that's not that

04:39:54.440 insane uh no she said three and sounds shocked but she lied about that lucy okay the fact that you're

04:40:03.400 a teenager yeah she lied and said she slept with three right yeah i thought she said that three was

04:40:10.360 crazy i'm just shocked but i'm also a mother so if my daughter would had slept with like three people

04:40:15.960 at like 14 15 i think i would have failed as a mom actually i don't know why you're out here i kind

04:40:22.040 of agree you're a child you're a literal child what are you yeah what true i'm not gonna judge her

04:40:27.400 though because like no no a lot of a lot of young women and a lot of young men at that young age that

04:40:35.320 are overly promiscuous it is usually because they're victims of childhood molestation so

04:40:40.840 i'm going to refrain from making any judgments because that's what it sounds like to me i would

04:40:45.400 say that i i regret most all of the situations that happened before i was out living on my own as an

04:40:53.000 adult um word like word yeah uh so i guess what was the question for you i guess you're saying

04:41:02.200 because the women can just lie so why should i mean anybody can lie about body count yeah yeah i

04:41:07.160 mean well first i would just say it's terrible to start off a relationship with lying like if this

04:41:12.360 is somebody you're hoping to build like trust and connection with uh it just seems kind of like a

04:41:19.960 bad thing to do to lie oh no i guess i just meant like you're having faith in the fact that they say

04:41:28.600 their body count was zero or it's one and that's what's making it okay that they're not promiscuous

04:41:32.840 in your mind but it could just all be a lie there's a lot of indicators i mean there's other kind of

04:41:37.640 questions that you could ask to vet if she's giving you an honest answer but i mean a woman could give

04:41:42.520 you an honest answer so she could say yeah you know i slept with 30 guys 20 guys 10 guys and the guy

04:41:48.920 could make some sort of determination if if he thinks she's being honest but i think you could ask certain

04:41:55.720 other questions to perhaps get be able to make inferences about the uh

04:42:05.320 suspected body count so you could just ask questions it doesn't have to be direct it could

04:42:09.880 be indirect questions like asking them about other sorts of behavior or even specifically as it relates

04:42:15.880 to sexual behavior so for example if somebody's had a threesome i would make certain inferences about

04:42:22.520 you know their sexual experience or body count based on that it might not be perfect like it is

04:42:27.880 while it is logically possible that the woman could have lost her virginity in a threesome and she has a

04:42:33.160 body count of one or i guess in this case technically two uh i would find it unlikely that you know woman

04:42:40.360 who's had a threesome her body count is one or two i would probably say it's over ten that's my immediate

04:42:47.400 i see immediate like okay it's probably over ten okay also like the parents i don't have

04:42:53.160 lindsey yes technically it's possible a woman could have had a threesome and she her body counts under

04:43:00.120 ten yeah it's yes it's i'm going to grant that it's it's possible i think it's unlikely uh then i would

04:43:07.240 look to other characteristics also did you want to jump yeah i think you're uh yeah i like what you're

04:43:13.640 getting at i think there are different like they'll use different uh things to try to tell

04:43:18.600 if you're being honest on the flip side of that though because i used to do like not only fans uh

04:43:25.480 what's it called not safe for work my i think he believes me now but my fiance for like the longest

04:43:30.680 time did not believe that i had a low body count because he's like well you were acting like a ho

04:43:35.800 so ain't you a ho but i wasn't so it's not even yeah you gotta watch what you do because people will

04:43:41.080 think you're at home they will assume they will make assumptions and again it might not be the

04:43:44.920 case no i mean it look it is also it is possible it's technically possible that the woman could be

04:43:50.520 doing degenerate stuff on of totally and be a virgin yeah it's possible happens but if she does have

04:43:57.640 an of it's like if her of like a dog it's probably a dog usually well even if she does just like solo

04:44:04.680 content i'm still gonna be like okay she's like usually the virgin to only fans girl pipeline is

04:44:11.960 not like that's not a thing so you're saying like if she's like she done sucks some dick she's

04:44:18.280 fucked a couple guys right you're already sexually open if you're you know open it up to everybody

04:44:24.040 is it possible that the virgin could be on only fans sure yeah but i think it's unlikely

04:44:28.200 i think sophie rain's a fraud also like back to your point she's got smoke for everybody also

04:44:34.440 to your point though like it depends on the context of the person you're asking like what are their

04:44:38.680 values are they coming from like a religious standpoint then obviously if they're asking a

04:44:42.520 girl and she lies about it well then they're going to be out of the running obviously like that comes

04:44:46.760 out sooner or later anyway in a relationship so i mean it might but it may never i don't care another

04:44:53.160 possibility another possibility i mean most women keep lists he'll find that list but also that too

04:44:58.040 like he'll find it maybe also do you place value on like your body because a lot of times society

04:45:04.280 places value on a woman's body and the less it's been used the more valuable it is well and i think

04:45:09.560 that point can be tied back to what you said like sexual promiscuity at a young age a lot of the time

04:45:15.880 comes from people being hypersexualized or like a child or abused or something like bad happening

04:45:21.880 them younger and then when it comes to that if that may have been like a reason to their

04:45:27.800 promiscuity or that might have been what caused it or what started it as a young young child if you

04:45:34.280 have something like that happen to you and you you know construe the ways what love is what the the

04:45:41.320 connection is between love and sex and sexual intercourse and what your own value is what you see

04:45:46.520 yourself as how have you ever gotten love have you always had to give something to get love sometimes

04:45:52.440 people fall into being promiscuous and being with multiple people because the only way they've ever

04:45:58.920 received love and affection in an in a relationship way is by providing that sexual gratification for the

04:46:06.280 other person and so for them you get into that point of almost like a like an abusive probably like

04:46:14.200 trauma cycle in your own mind of thinking that if i don't give you this you're not going to love

04:46:19.640 me anyways so i'm going to put that up front to try to bring in that love even though i'm not

04:46:24.760 understanding on a psychological level that that's not what love is sorry and then you get you get stuck

04:46:31.880 in that cycle of dating those same types of people and you're drawn to that you're like oh this

04:46:36.840 person was abusive and then you move to another person and you're like oh this person is abusive oh

04:46:40.840 it's because you're you're look you're somehow unconsciously looking for the same things you're

04:46:45.800 looking for yeah and it's like your traumatized subconscious mind is picking out those red flags

04:46:51.160 in people and it's giving you butterflies and you're like oh i like them so much at that point too you

04:46:55.560 have to be like it's just trauma self-aware too at one point do you say okay i've been inflicted

04:47:01.320 i've been trauma inflicted now what can i do to do the work to get better so i'm not attracting

04:47:06.200 those people anymore like when you do go to that if you do become that though now because you had a

04:47:12.440 period of promiscuity in your life where you just trash and you don't give a fuck about yourself and

04:47:16.600 you're not worth anything some women actually feel that way because like you said they're but i just

04:47:20.600 mean other women and men sometimes say that about those people or put them down and make it like they

04:47:28.920 don't mean anything and they're not worth anything even if they don't do sex work anymore even if they're

04:47:32.840 not promiscuous anymore there's almost no amount of work nor bettering yourself nor being celibate

04:47:39.800 nor not being promiscuous anymore not doing sex work not doing only fans you almost can never come

04:47:44.360 back from it you can't yeah it's always about like your mentality too though because you guys don't care

04:47:49.880 us mentally we don't mean in our own mind i mean for the way other people view you but you don't care

04:47:55.000 though because speak to you if you guys are doing only fans you obviously don't give a fuck people think

04:47:58.440 right so like you have to put yourself in i care very much actually well there's a certain sense

04:48:03.880 of like not caring though to do some of the things you've done right it's it's having confidence and

04:48:09.000 knowing yourself exactly so once you hit that it's some threshold after being traumatized me or or leave

04:48:15.160 like hate comments or something it would hurt my feelings i'm human like i don't i don't want to be

04:48:20.440 talked down to because of what i do because i like what i do and it it sucks that people feel that way but

04:48:28.280 you get into this job with the knowledge that that is how people are going to talk to you yeah

04:48:32.280 right it's how people are going to see you so you have to be strong enough to be able to withstand

04:48:37.640 but and then how do you transfer that into a trauma relationship cycle so like at what point

04:48:43.720 do you recognize just like she said like with years of abuse years of uh not being you know treated

04:48:49.800 right or being like messed with with your head

04:48:52.680 yo chat should we move on from that i have something to say i think it's i think it's

04:48:59.560 really important i'll let you let me just let one chat come through but i'll give you the floor

04:49:03.320 after that we have clean here with the tts thank you brother donated 200 thank you man body count

04:49:09.800 doesn't matter someone should want to be with you for you you should be with them and them with you

04:49:15.320 regardless of their past what is everyone's body count no no no what i'm fine with him asking that

04:49:23.960 question but claim claim body count does matter okay body count does matter clan you can have your

04:49:30.920 own thoughts clean no no everybody who watches my show has to a hundred percent agree with you

04:49:39.240 on everything you're not every single thing not allowed to disagree

04:49:44.680 but he did ask the question what is everybody's body count starting with you

04:49:47.960 um i don't feel comfortable sharing that with you want to do a ballpark range no i don't want to

04:49:53.480 thank you can i say what i wanted to say real quick uh well let's get through this okay we'll

04:49:58.520 come right back to it i hope i don't lindsey lee don't forget i think i i think i answered last

04:50:03.160 time new podcast imagine everybody's watching didn't see it i don't even remember what i said

04:50:08.840 so you weren't honest so you lied no i just i don't keep track fair enough you know you lost track

04:50:15.480 yeah she does a lot of work she has a lot of clients 200 scenes so and collabs and you know

04:50:22.040 but that's a scene's not always with like a different co-star but so a lot of them but yeah

04:50:27.640 yeah did you ballpark it it's okay you've done 200 plus scenes let's say you that's like what 100 guys

04:50:34.360 just from your work then like the escorting and then like the civilians civilians

04:50:40.200 civilians we're like over 200 so over 200 what about you that's crazy um i honestly i've never

04:50:50.440 counted did you lose track no i've just never actually sat down and counted i'd say probably

04:50:58.360 20 plus minimum that's not bad minimum cool yeah weren't you escorting though no i was a sugar baby

04:51:06.600 for the same two clients for two years so i had a monthly allowance and i don't judge nobody that

04:51:11.960 does do it i just did it as usual i don't want to disclose that but it is low under 10 okay what about

04:51:19.560 you i don't even know i don't even keep track i'll be honest no because and i used to date a couple

04:51:25.720 and we used to be in the lifestyle lifestyle swingers so there's a lot of that and then the content

04:51:32.680 everything i know for a fact now i'm probably in triple digits i'll be honest triple digits you

04:51:38.680 think uh over 300 oh like not even two i think almost two but at least like one or two so like

04:51:46.760 parents must be so proud but between 150 to 200 i said mine was low i don't you're fine your parents

04:51:54.200 are proud because when we go to the parties like sometimes i'd be fucking like 15 people 15 plus

04:51:59.720 you've slept with 15 plus people at a party in a night that is fucking disgusting well you all

04:52:06.760 get tested okay that doesn't matter you start taking 15 dicks at once you don't you don't feel

04:52:12.840 any shame like you go home at the end of the day and you look at yourself in the mirror and you feel

04:52:17.000 good in one party at one party to one to one to one that's worse wait was it 15 in your opinion

04:52:23.320 wait wait wait wait wait wait i think i'm gonna hold on before we get into it before we completely

04:52:29.240 obliterate the chance of other people being honest let's get their answers i don't even want to hear

04:52:34.920 anymore i can count on a few of my fingers but i won't disclose the number sorry what i can count

04:52:39.560 on a few of my fingers but i won't disclose the number ballpark it did you lose track is what you're

04:52:44.600 saying i said a few of my fingers but did you lose track of the actual number no okay did you lose track

04:52:49.640 of the actual number no did you lose track of the actual number wait i'm just curious why just for

04:52:57.000 you specifically why would you be why would you be ashamed to reveal your body count when you there's

04:53:04.520 videos of you sucking a transgender woman's penis you've had sex in public why bring that one up

04:53:11.080 that's there's plenty of other so specific brian okay okay i have i have had a lot of partners

04:53:17.400 but i my i guess my confusion is you feel on one hand you have objections to sharing the amount of

04:53:25.960 sexual partners that you've had which is just a verbal uh a verbal statement versus you don't know

04:53:32.760 the number okay so you've lost track it is probably upwards uh it's hundreds 500 sounds like you're

04:53:43.320 closing 500s damn girl okay i am not hey i'm not gonna pass i'm not gonna judge i'm not gonna judge

04:53:51.640 okay i'm not bonnie blue way more picky um but honey blue is that again as i said like when i was doing

04:53:59.880 like escorting at my own home when i was younger when i was manic and not taking good care of myself i

04:54:05.880 was putting myself in extremely dangerous situations and through those situations i gained

04:54:12.200 a lot of bodies so i mean i don't really think yeah shit happens man i think i think it definitely

04:54:17.880 has damage to me dick happens yeah during it i would say that it probably is it's okay it's okay

04:54:26.760 i'm not sharing it uh do you want to did you lose track is what you're saying no i won't i'm not

04:54:31.960 comfortable sharing that i don't think that's something everybody needs to know uh chloe

04:54:37.880 the whole internet's itching for this one i know it my body count is 11 and two of those were women

04:54:44.360 so technically i have touched nine penises in 28 years yeah i didn't know we were only counting

04:54:52.040 penises yeah same for all of you i need a blessing i don't i don't believe in that i'm gonna catch

04:55:02.520 something just sitting here but i just don't like how you called her disgusting but then you're just

04:55:06.680 sad facing over her when she had more than her if you count the ones that i finished i'm gonna have to

04:55:11.960 say 25. wait wait hold on if you count all the body counts where i actually finished my body count

04:55:18.920 is 25. that's not how you count them though they don't they don't just not count because you didn't

04:55:25.160 finish wait no no don't leave what what did you say that i was nicer to her than i am hurt it's it's

04:55:30.760 simple because you said something yeah no no it's she said why did you call her disgusting and then

04:55:36.920 not and sad faced me i do think that 500 bodies is disgusting but i also think that you've been

04:55:42.200 very open and honest and i think you've been through a lot in your life you're privileged and

04:55:46.520 just want to be a hole you've made it why do you think she's a hole just been through nothing and how

04:55:51.960 hey she she was a heroin addict yeah i'm like how through her abusive relationship or her

04:55:57.160 addiction or anything how do you assume that she's privileged and you kept saying she's got

04:56:02.440 botox in her face she's got botox in her face even though you said you were gonna get botox to not get

04:56:07.560 ugly as you age the way you speak it's the way you speak again generalized assumption or i just speak

04:56:13.400 for herself now she can quiet but she can oh so go ahead are you privileged not privileged okay okay

04:56:22.360 so maybe that was an unfair um assumption i just think what if she's had a rough as

04:56:26.680 life and she's like a trust fund baby is that true no then i would probably yeah do you have

04:56:34.760 i think that all of the behavior is degenerate i just think that um i think she's been very real

04:56:40.200 and open and honest and i think that as a woman i don't think that i should judge uh every single

04:56:45.720 woman i judge them based off of how they act and my first impression of you was that you were better

04:56:50.520 than everybody you don't need this podcast it's a trash ass podcast you're outside talking about

04:56:55.800 what surgeries you want next and sitting here deep throat in the mics like you don't give me the

04:57:01.240 impression of somebody yeah we all at one point there's no empathy there and you're friends with

04:57:09.160 somebody that's like happy to help men cheat on their wives so i'm sorry i don't relate to you i can

04:57:13.720 relate to her on a as a woman and as a level of a human being you just seem that's okay i guess

04:57:20.200 i don't know you're lucky that's just my opinion yeah well you're lucky in your opinion i'm not

04:57:24.680 going to hate on it it's your opinion you don't want to rebuttal to that at all no because you're

04:57:29.240 like i just tore me a new asshole and you're like i guess but at the end of the day i can tell you're

04:57:33.480 canadian for sure well at the end of the day i don't know i don't really it's not really like i

04:57:39.240 don't know you want me to change my opinion like she's still gonna be like yeah she's gonna be

04:57:43.880 her yeah i'd be myself no it's great i don't want you to go home and cry there was just a

04:57:48.760 question i was asking thank you for sharing but i'm not going to change your opinion that you

04:57:52.680 already have on me that's true that's very true i feel like you guys uh that was great you guys

04:57:58.920 this is how canadians argue

04:58:02.120 i guess well sorry you feel that way i don't know

04:58:04.360 big booty tay or whatever the fuck your name is she you know chloe she said that you know you

04:58:14.520 haven't really had a rough life you're gonna let chloe you're gonna let her well at the end of the

04:58:19.160 day i don't really need to justify everything that's happened to me because a lot of things i

04:58:23.640 like to keep private there's some things that have happened to me that i don't know everyone you don't

04:58:28.840 need to know so that's true but at the end of the day you're just looking at something

04:58:34.920 that you don't even know me so you're just like judging so i don't really care not not to speak

04:58:38.920 for you but kind of i don't think she thinks either one of us is like better than the other or worse

04:58:43.720 than the other i think well well i think she does a little bit just because of the love of

04:58:50.920 definitely you're open and you're honest and you're talking about how shitty the podcast was when

04:58:54.600 i first saw you outside so i'm just like i think maybe it's open you know i was there and i still

04:58:59.320 don't remember it i think maybe we're friends we're besties we're literally yeah of course you're not

04:59:03.720 gonna snitch on her well no i was standing there i just don't remember i think maybe she latched on

04:59:09.080 and that's why she stood so far away also that too like she's about to details she's about to get

04:59:13.400 married too so like there's a sensitivity there yeah okay so yes i arrived late and i did overhear some

04:59:19.400 things and listen i don't i know where where's the girl that called me alive i love how she left

04:59:24.600 conveniently i started smoke with me and then left i don't even remember what i said i already yeah

04:59:29.720 i already i think i talked i said they're talking they were why would i lie i'm oh i said that i

04:59:36.280 was scared to get on the podcast i think it's gonna be fun yeah were they talking shit it wasn't

04:59:42.760 necessarily shit it was talking shit it was just like it's just a dumb podcast it doesn't matter

04:59:46.760 that's exactly what they said thank you wow it was more so hyping people up for like

04:59:50.600 oh no but you said you said that that was never said so now you did no i said that we weren't talking

04:59:55.960 shit chloe cut you we were more so being like um i'm nervous they're like no it's just a dumb

05:00:04.520 podcast it's gonna be fine it's gonna be fine like more so in that context not like

05:00:08.920 fucking brian fucking fucking piece of shit brian we're gonna go on the shitty podcast and we're

05:00:14.280 gonna talk shit to a shit man like that's not what it was like jake what do you have to say okay

05:00:19.320 there was one thing said that is bothering me because no one's being honest about it is that

05:00:23.800 i'm not gonna say who but someone on this side when you were on the phone said oh look she's on

05:00:29.480 the phone she thinks she's better than us and i walked past i am better than you i don't open my

05:00:33.240 legs no i don't know who said that so we were talking about lindsey they were talking about

05:00:38.120 we were talking about our friend about you they were talking about lindsey she was on the phone

05:00:42.760 she was the one on the phone no no on the phone our friend lindsey's on the phone she was there

05:00:47.240 she gave us a cigarette no one has been judging her no no we weren't talking about her we were

05:00:51.560 talking about lindsey you can judge me all day long keep the energy to my face that's it you can

05:00:56.920 judge me all we're talking about was i think we saw you online we're actually talking about how

05:01:00.360 how cute you were yeah i saw you and i was like oh i follow her

05:01:05.720 where's the cat button she said oh i follow her do you think they're lying yeah i was like omg

05:01:09.880 i love her content yeah i think you're just taking what i haven't watched enough of it out of context

05:01:14.520 wait wait i want to hear this

05:01:18.760 why is it british why are they all british yeah

05:01:22.840 all right let's move uh we'll get back into the uh notes then what's that next

05:01:30.360 uh sure why not guys good twitch.tv slash whatever it's been four minutes since we last

05:01:34.760 had a prime sub i think it's bugged boys can you guys just drop us a follow drop us a prime sub i

05:01:39.160 think it's bugged our follows are bugged our primes are bugged just drop us a follow see if you're

05:01:43.720 able to follow the money's the follow button is bugged check the super chats yeah the super chats

05:01:48.440 are bugged the the the champagne's bugged lucy's bugged she won't drop a champagne we definitely need

05:01:54.360 the champagne pop to know we definitely need we definitely need some champagne i feel uh we need a

05:01:58.760 a little pick pick me up all right 200 tts read is 100 venmo cash app excuse me whatever pun bless you

05:02:07.640 all right let's see going to kate kate here in your notes uh okay you're crappy at relationships is what

05:02:14.920 you wrote you went swimming in the mountain lake after flying there in a helicopter that was the first

05:02:20.840 date you had uh yeah kind of a date yeah yes was the water crystal clear it was beautiful yes beautiful

05:02:28.360 did you drink the water no i didn't drink the water uh you okay so but you're crappy at relationships

05:02:35.800 um why is that i have been in the past yes um because i struggled with not feeling

05:02:42.600 like i was worthy of things so i would try too hard to make a relationship happen because it felt

05:02:50.920 like if i couldn't be with somebody it was like if they didn't want to be with me it was a reflection

05:02:55.880 of me versus me kind of trying to be like okay i'm just not the person for them and somebody else

05:03:01.240 is out there for me who is the person for me so i tend to you know i used to get too invested in them

05:03:10.040 and too anxious about them and all that type of stuff makes it pretty hard to have a great

05:03:15.880 relationship okay uh you said that you think guys men need to step up up more if they want women to

05:03:22.440 be better women it takes both sexes working to fix how messed up modern dating is you also wrote

05:03:27.960 you've gone on good dates and bad dates uh hold on you wanted to give uh bring a different perspective

05:03:35.160 to the show you have fairly conservative values and hookup culture dating is awful as a

05:03:39.720 conservative woman you think most of the women on the show don't understand how the way they act

05:03:44.120 is affecting the dating world for other women who don't want to act that way you also think

05:03:48.520 a lot of guys don't understand they can affect the dating relationship world as well i think you

05:03:52.600 talked a bit about that about how these uh of girls they're impacting dating yes we talked about that

05:03:59.000 though uh you said you think men should lead and women should allow them to how can both genders make

05:04:05.400 adjustments to make dating more enjoyable for everyone is the question that you ask how can

05:04:11.400 both genders make adjustments because i don't i don't think it's going to just come from women

05:04:17.480 changing it's gonna have to be men changing too to fix modern dating so what should men do i think men need

05:04:24.200 to um understand what being a good leader is they need to be taught how to be good men what's a good

05:04:33.240 leader being respectful of women um i generally think if dating is going to get better it's going

05:04:38.440 to take both sexes not sleeping around as much and being more abstinent with sex um until when

05:04:47.560 until they're married until they're married ideally i know that what you're doing

05:04:51.640 are you going to wait until marriage yes now i wasn't in the past but now yes we talked about that

05:04:57.480 on the last show so i won't linger too long on that because well if you guys want to watch uh there's

05:05:03.720 quite a extended exchange when we were talking about that me and kate but essentially you know you've

05:05:11.000 all your previous relationships it sounds like you were not waiting until marriage to have sex

05:05:15.160 is that correct uh you have had sex with some men fairly early on fairly quickly but now your new

05:05:24.280 standard is waiting until marriage oh speaking hold on a little oops there it is

05:05:36.360 we love you clean

05:05:42.280 probably won't be the first time getting a double in your mouth

05:05:45.480 wait what oh a double serving of champagne everybody here want to fill up of the champagne

05:05:52.360 yes please just jade still no champagne you're good everybody else bubbly

05:05:59.480 clean if you're a fan dm me on instagram after the show i'll send you free merch there you go

05:06:04.680 clan thank you so much he might hate me so if so thanks anyways but i'm trying to remember if

05:06:09.160 don't i think i think he's canadian wait hold on oh you better like me now he's gonna hate me if

05:06:15.800 i'm wrong on this uh thank you clan really appreciate it brother uh but kate so you are

05:06:21.560 you is this like bullshit though because some girls will say that they're waiting until marriage but like

05:06:27.320 they'll the guy after a couple months like what what's the truth here kate no it's it's true

05:06:31.960 you don't believe her what denomination uh you said you're christian right that's kate what

05:06:37.800 denomination are you non-denominational non-denominational okay uh all right i mean

05:06:46.280 question the last guy you were with us i assume you know you well obviously you weren't married to

05:06:51.240 him so you didn't wait till marriage but uh may i ask like how long you waited with the last guy i

05:06:55.800 didn't with the the last guy that i was kind of seeing we didn't sleep together uh how about the last

05:07:01.480 guy you slept together how long did you wait not long enough that's why i'm changing how i'm

05:07:07.240 acting because i i don't think it's super important to the conversation kind of material to the

05:07:13.320 conversation not really because what you're going to do you're you're going to end up saying that if

05:07:18.600 i did if i slept with him it's going to be unfair to make somebody else wait later and i don't it

05:07:23.320 doesn't really matter to say that are you brian brian jenna's brian no consent is consent

05:07:31.480 when it comes just because you fuck the last dude like soon doesn't mean people learn from

05:07:35.480 their mistakes man that's not fair i hope you don't say that brian i'll be disappointed

05:07:41.640 brian what does that have to do with uh hold on um can you guys pass your cups down that way and i'll

05:07:47.400 refill them aren't they gonna all get mixed up then though yeah we're supposed to get doubles

05:07:51.560 you slide across is that too much do you want the end of mine just do one at a time that's a great

05:07:56.360 point yeah pass it we'll do one at a time so pass it down and i'll fill and then we'll pass it back

05:08:01.720 we'll pass it back oh okay that'll be the easiest highway or the highway uh so yeah i guess you know

05:08:09.000 it's a gonna be a hard sell i'm not i'm not worried about that i'm okay so you're just gonna be

05:08:15.480 none for the rest of your life no i didn't say that either i trust that god is going to bring the

05:08:19.720 right man into my life praise the lord passers i trust that the god is going to bring the right

05:08:26.520 man into my life who is going to have similar values to mine and he will understand where i'm coming

05:08:31.880 from okay i think you know it's it's frustrating i guess in the sense that we've had a lot of girls

05:08:38.760 come on the show like claim this shit we've had and even like younger christian women who one they

05:08:44.040 lie about being virgins then find out not true we've had girls come on the show saying i'm waiting

05:08:49.720 till marriage and then we get an update six months later they done fucked like so these christian women

05:08:56.520 claiming they're doing something it's fucking it's it's a facade it's fraud it's not a facade with all

05:09:03.160 of them again okay some of them are legit but i'm telling you a lot of these girls say one thing on

05:09:08.120 the show but behind the curtains they're moving in a certain way you don't want to seem like the kind

05:09:13.720 of the girl that's doing that pastors please like do we really come on oh my god you done how

05:09:18.440 oh no done fucked up that's twice that wasn't the second spill yeah that was you that was like

05:09:25.080 our slurred we have enough of that over here we're good all right pastors oh so wait sorry what was the

05:09:36.120 question i didn't have a question no you were just talking about the question i was answering oh my

05:09:41.800 question was come on guys we don't believe katie kate kate we don't believe kate i don't believe it

05:09:47.400 come on i don't believe you don't have to believe me though i can say it here's what's gonna happen

05:09:52.360 here's what's gonna happen you're gonna you're gonna run into a guy who you really like who you really

05:09:58.520 like and you're in your late 30s and he's in his late 30s and 40s y'all both of y'all have done had

05:10:06.840 a bunch of okay hold on let me rewind that i'm not going to say you've had a bunch of sexual

05:10:11.480 experience but you guys are adults you guys have had sexual relationships a lot of men even christian

05:10:16.760 men ain't gonna wait for marriage they might not wait but i want to find somebody who is going to try

05:10:23.400 to wait did you get yours i'm fine i'm fine okay okay um i'm i want to be with a man whose intention

05:10:31.000 is to try as much as mine is but okay let's assume accidents happen so if something happens it can

05:10:37.480 happen she's in a loving relationship and they decide to fuck what's wrong with that my intention

05:10:41.480 and you should own that too if it happens it happens my intention is to wait

05:10:46.840 right your intention is to wait uh here i can't tell you what's going to happen in the future but

05:10:53.400 my goal is to not do that until i'm yeah but when you guys have been dry humping for three months

05:10:57.800 and you really turned on so here's the thing is if i'm with a man who has the same intentions as i

05:11:03.560 do we aren't going to be dry humping for months beforehand if we both want to wait we aren't going

05:11:09.480 to be doing those things that are going to invite sexual temptation perhaps i'm going to get my response

05:11:15.480 after we do a cheers uh claim you are a fucking legend sir cheers to claim

05:11:20.040 cheers

05:11:20.920 yay

05:11:25.640 go to claim

05:11:27.960 oh he gets the bottle there's not that much there wasn't much left

05:11:32.760 crazy thank you claim man appreciate it um appreciate it a lot i guess just the issue is

05:11:38.200 um we have i'm not saying this is going to be the case for you we've had a lot of these christian

05:11:41.640 women who come on claim one thing and then like we had this one girl she was like well i had sex

05:11:46.920 with like two guys one of them was my boyfriend she came back on the show a second time and but

05:11:52.120 the first time she was on the show she said i'm going i'm a hundred percent waiting until marriage

05:11:56.600 and then she comes back on the show the second time oopsies i had an oopsie i i had a little sneaky

05:12:03.080 link with my ex-boyfriend and then we fought and now we're broken up again and it's just like

05:12:07.160 like they say one thing on the show but i don't know but i don't i don't need to convince you

05:12:13.640 though can i ask you a question brian but what i'm saying is is there's this and absolutely chloe

05:12:19.640 just one sec though is they're gonna say you're gonna give different treatment to different men

05:12:26.120 so there's this uh like on one hand you have girls who are going to make a dude wait three months

05:12:31.880 six months till marriage in your case but then they done fucked other dudes really quickly and

05:12:38.120 it's this like it's this sort of lack of symmetry in the treatment that you give certain men

05:12:46.360 and i think it's a raw deal for the guy who he's gonna be the one who gives the fullest commitment

05:12:53.560 he's gonna be the one who who gives marriage but you done fuck guys like first second third day

05:12:59.240 it's a raw deal you're proving their point though that they were making earlier when they said that

05:13:03.640 if somebody does only fans or somebody does this thing society will not let them change and that's

05:13:10.440 unfair uh i disagree i mean i've i have millions and millions of followers and most of them know what

05:13:18.440 i used to do and i don't think they judge me for it because i think it's about like intention but

05:13:22.600 he's saying that men aren't going to be okay with them making them wait because they've slept with

05:13:27.800 somebody earlier well then go find somebody who's easy what exactly brian i have a question do you

05:13:32.920 have in your history of dating have you dated women that have ended up being like just like brutally

05:13:38.200 dishonest with you or maybe like your parents relationship did one parent were they like super

05:13:44.680 just like dishonest and just shitty to the other one are we psychoanalyzing was it mother i am yeah my

05:13:51.400 parents are still married they're happily they've been happily married for a very long time okay so your

05:13:55.320 point has been completely debunked already but no you don't know my point hey man you're trying to

05:13:59.880 make some inference like oh no brian must have had a traumatic no whatever or his parents or whatever

05:14:06.040 my parents are happily married i can come to these determinations without having like a dysfunctional

05:14:11.160 family dynamic but to answer your other question um most of the relationships i've had have been

05:14:17.320 quite good there hasn't been like crate like anything super crazy i've had like one or two

05:14:21.800 bad first or well bad first dates that's another thing but actual relationships aside from one

05:14:27.320 they've all been like i i have really nothing bad to say about the vast majority of my exes

05:14:32.760 so then let's agree with him because like you're gonna look at the examples you have and you know just

05:14:39.000 like with choices in life a lot of people will judge you for what you chose to do but they won't also see

05:14:45.800 the options you had and there are a lot of people who do come from really bad backgrounds and have

05:14:50.840 these skewed views and quite frankly like it's admirable she does want to wait till marriage and i

05:14:55.560 have my roommate right now is a virgin who's also waiting but like and i actually admire that and i

05:15:00.520 respect her but you know i was that doesn't mean everybody has that opportunity to just live a very

05:15:07.080 noble honorable lifestyle based on like their circumstances their family or whatever katie

05:15:12.440 your or kate your question was well uh should people not change i think it's fine what i'm

05:15:17.800 saying though is well fuck what i was saying then well hold on we'll come we'll come back to it but

05:15:23.000 kate you're you can change i'm not saying you should continue just uh i mean i'm not you haven't disclosed

05:15:31.240 like your past all that much so i'm not saying that just continue being a strumpet maybe you've only

05:15:36.280 had sexual encounters and they were mostly all long-term relationships but this idea that okay you're now

05:15:41.560 going to go to waiting until marriage you can do it i'm giving the perspective i'm not saying you

05:15:47.480 can't do it i'm just giving the male perspective on this and a bird's eye view analysis of what i

05:15:54.200 think is fair i think it's a really raw deal for a guy to marry a woman and wait until marriage

05:16:02.760 when she done fucked a hundred i'm not saying you did this she done fucked a hundred dudes on the first

05:16:07.480 night so that's like just looking at the the pieces on the chess board that's like kind of a

05:16:14.120 shitty position to be in i'm i'm not expecting to find a guy who's still a virgin for one i'm expecting

05:16:20.680 that whoever i find is going to have had a past and i'm expecting that whoever he is he has had a

05:16:28.360 similar change of heart that i have had and he is going to want to wait as well and that us working

05:16:34.440 together we will make the right decisions to not put ourselves into temptation are you mainly dating

05:16:40.120 other christians i'm not dating anybody right now but like would you yes yes okay so i think you know

05:16:45.640 they would be more forgiving i think with pasts totally so the people that she's dating the right

05:16:50.600 man will be i i i'm not worried about it i think that the right man is going to come into my life who

05:16:57.560 can be forgiving of my past because he's had his own past and we will both be on the same page with

05:17:02.840 wanting to wait and we will help each other with wanting to wait instead of trying to tempt each

05:17:07.880 other sure and your specific situation is a typically when this waiting for sex conversation

05:17:14.040 comes up look a woman could have had a thousand sexual partners she fucked all of them within five

05:17:19.960 minutes of meeting then she meets and she did that like literally last night and then she meets a new

05:17:26.840 guy and she's like wow i really like this guy uh we're gonna wait six months i'm gonna make them

05:17:31.880 wait because i actually like them yes yeah that's so i understand how messed up that is from the guy's

05:17:37.080 perspective that's like that's not like i'm all these guys i don't care about they can come in my

05:17:43.480 pussy right away but the guy who's actually worthy of a relationship the guy who's actually worthy of the

05:17:49.240 relationship he has to wait isn't that kind of backwards no i understand your point also too like

05:17:55.000 this is a bigger societal problem like most of these discussions we're having now like people are

05:18:00.040 allowed to change yes but when you're starting from certain values or you've been traumatized that's

05:18:04.280 a little bit harder to like make that switch if that makes sense because once you come through

05:18:10.280 trauma like you're kind of jacked up in the head like you need your own like self-treatment and then

05:18:14.840 you can open up your array of dating who's going to be willing to deal with your trauma are you healed

05:18:19.560 at that point does that act does that allow different access to different men and then are they

05:18:23.800 forgiving once they come into contact with you i just want to know why we're so concerned about

05:18:27.480 what kate does with her hello kitty shouldn't we just like leave that like to i'm just i'm confused

05:18:33.080 because there seems to be like if a woman says you know i'm gonna you know maybe i like she doesn't

05:18:39.800 even have to be hope she just likes this guy and she's like you know what we're gonna sleep with each

05:18:43.000 other like two weeks in and then the next relationship she's like yeah you know i didn't

05:18:47.240 really like that i want to wait longer like i've always waited in my relationships always i think with

05:18:52.600 my fiancee it was like the soonest and i think we slept together after like a month and a half

05:18:58.280 usually i'm waiting like in between two three months but who cares like i'm just i'm confused

05:19:04.760 as to what like there seems to be there seems to be a what's that word like almost like a disdain

05:19:11.160 if a girl decides sure she wants to change her mind i just don't i don't get it it's it's implicit consent

05:19:17.160 and men men do it all the time they go through a whole phase and then they're like wow that did not

05:19:21.080 benefit me i don't like it um i don't want to do that with the next woman and i'm just wondering

05:19:26.680 learning from our lessons doesn't always mean we're hypocritical it means we learned and we

05:19:31.000 grew that's a part of being a human being a well-evolved one sure well the claim here that

05:19:35.880 i'm making is not necessarily that the woman is a hypocrite but that from the male perspective

05:19:41.160 this is a really really raw deal but again i agree with you women can do this i'm not just

05:19:46.280 there's no dispute from my position that again a woman could fuck a thousand men instantly five

05:19:53.320 minutes after meeting them and then literally the next day after just having a a train ran on her

05:19:59.400 she can say i'm going to wait until marriage and uh and that's she can absolutely do that there's no

05:20:07.640 dispute there what i'm saying is the guy who agrees to that arrangement and ends up wifing her up

05:20:14.440 you're getting a raw deal in the same way that for example how would y'all feel if to try to maybe

05:20:21.000 present a scenario where you can perhaps understand the male perspective imagine you were really

05:20:26.040 interested in the guy he claims he was really interested in you but and you know he's kind of

05:20:31.960 saying he wants to take things slow and he doesn't want to ever take you out to like a nice fancy dinner

05:20:37.560 he never wants to take you on trips uh and he's you know he's saying xyz here are the reasons why

05:20:42.680 whatever and then you find out that the previous four girls who he's had like really casual non-committal

05:20:50.200 sexual casual relationships with and he tells you he never cared about any of those girls he took all

05:20:55.800 those girls he claims he doesn't care about he took them to the fancy dinner he took them on the trips

05:21:01.880 but with you the girl that he wants to oh my god you're my future wife no no no you have to wait

05:21:07.000 until marriage to get that doesn't that seem backwards i hear that but i also think you're

05:21:11.640 kind of like if you're just using the situation of like a man and a woman like if you're that hard

05:21:17.560 pressed about what the man did with his money before you with other women you're probably shouldn't be in

05:21:22.760 a relationship like you might be a little stuck up a bit of a gold digger like who cares it's just

05:21:28.920 it's individual every relationship is um different and we learn and we grow in different relationships so

05:21:34.280 i do see your point and i think that's valid but i also see hers and i think it's like just as valid

05:21:39.960 and i think you know what i'm saying brian i think part of it you seem sick of me no i think i'm not

05:21:44.840 sick i think part of it too can be that okay was is this a girl who like you said the night before

05:21:50.920 just got a train ran on her and then she meets a guy she likes so she's like i'm going to make

05:21:53.880 a woman or is this somebody who is going i've made mistakes in my past for the past several

05:21:59.960 years i have not been that person and i'm not engaging in that behavior anymore i'm just i'm

05:22:06.920 using that more extreme scenario to try to like break through to make try to make sense of how it

05:22:13.480 could be uh unfair treatment how the guy could feel slided by this sort of situation now in this case

05:22:21.400 you're going to find a guy who i mean i hope you it would i'd recommend you disclose this early on

05:22:28.360 to save your own time but also to save the guy's time but primarily to save your your time but i

05:22:34.520 mean i won't be dating anybody who doesn't want to wait okay i mean maybe just say it up front and

05:22:40.280 if the guy accepts it he accepts it um i think it's a raw deal for both sexes at this point in dating

05:22:46.920 because that's a scenario that i'm sure a lot of men have encountered and women changing from that

05:22:51.240 scenario is something that's probably happening more often than not probably nowadays so i think

05:22:55.720 it's hard for both sides also again once you come to that realization then you switch your mindset and

05:23:02.760 you're looking for different people maybe you have a list of non-negotiables now that you didn't

05:23:06.120 have before and that shrinks your dating pool who knows yeah you can always change like myself i'm a

05:23:11.720 great example like you know i'm not shy i own my mistakes like there's you could see a picture of

05:23:17.160 me naked on the internet it is what it is but at the end of the day i got accepted by a conservative

05:23:23.320 arabic christian family who like came from iraq so like and i look like this so like if they accepted

05:23:30.520 me you can do it yep but you got to be genuine and you're like and your intentions though you can't

05:23:36.760 be like have a train ran on on you and then the next day be like i'm holy like you have to put some

05:23:41.160 work in and i put years of work in and it's a self-accountability thing too like do you really

05:23:45.640 want to make that change for your next partner yeah like for how about this i'll give you guys

05:23:50.440 uh an anecdote from my own life this was i think a couple years ago i don't know four or five years

05:23:54.840 ago or wait three four or five years ago something like that don't remember the exact timeline i was on

05:24:01.320 the estate with this girl and it was like third fourth date and she wasn't wanting to go to have sex

05:24:09.160 and um like we were kissing making out whatever but she didn't want to like go further and like

05:24:15.640 so hey totally respect that you say okay cool we can stop in fact like if a girl's like doesn't want

05:24:23.160 to go further i don't even want to make out anymore i'm just like nah i'm good um anyways not sure why i

05:24:29.640 okay brian no it's like i'm not gonna fucking just make out make out with you for 30 minutes

05:24:37.480 not like i'll give you a peck on the lips but that's it when you're ready for sex then we can do some

05:24:41.720 more shit but so she told me she was like no but you know i kind of i kind of want to wait

05:24:49.080 i was like okay but then she told me that she had previously like a month uh no it was like two

05:24:55.800 three months earlier she had had like a friends with benefits and i asked her well how long did

05:25:00.120 you wait with him she was like well i fucked him right away and i was like from my perspective i'm

05:25:04.520 like she doesn't have an actual issue or some sort of like virtue yeah about waiting it was just

05:25:11.640 she was like oh well i'm categorizing brian as a long-term potential right but i'm like you done

05:25:17.480 i fucked another dude yeah that's really quick i feel the unfairness and so i'm yeah i relate to

05:25:23.560 that i'm just and then because it's like what did he have that i don't have yeah yeah it makes you

05:25:29.000 compare it like forces you you're not just comparing naturally they like make you like put you in that

05:25:33.320 headspace yeah i get it and i've i've encountered that before and uh look i'm not if i meet a girl we

05:25:38.760 don't have to have sex right away but if like i'd at least you know if if you're if you had gave a guy

05:25:46.600 different treatment and then i don't know maybe it's like a male ego thing because you're comparing

05:25:52.520 at that point yeah well men are taught to like they compete with each other a lot right so it's

05:25:56.920 like what did he have that i don't have i want to touch on something that was talked about earlier

05:26:01.080 with women with high body counts just one sec i'll let you get to it i gotta let the chat

05:26:05.880 gotta let the chat come through and then we have one more back my initial attainment of the two to

05:26:11.720 your left if i only got plugged like a leak on a submarine dudes aren't looking to go down on the

05:26:17.640 ship the second one still okay wait who's this referencing wait what two to your left i don't

05:26:24.200 get it you guys were making more sense originally and then he's like i take that back now only one

05:26:29.000 of us is making sense we have to rock paper scissors thank you plan appreciate it claim we have one

05:26:34.520 more coming in and then chloe i'll give you the floor two hundred dollars with everything i've

05:26:40.440 heard so far about dating in this day and age intimacy has lost its sacredness when you can share

05:26:47.080 your partner with someone else she is no longer special intimacy is screwed

05:26:55.080 unless you like that

05:26:57.960 yeah i think i want to add one thing to what i was saying with that girl who

05:27:01.480 that i was dating briefly for it was like three or four years ago whatever um i was i i liked her

05:27:09.160 and i wanted uh i was actually interested in long-term relationship but she was intentionally

05:27:13.720 withholding as some sort of like game to like get me to commit but i was already feeling her like i was

05:27:19.960 not trying because at least the way i move i'm not interested in the one-time thing i'm not if i'm

05:27:24.760 going to sleep with a girl there's going to be continuity absent her i don't know some weird

05:27:29.800 shit going on post-sex but if i sleep with a girl there's there's intentionality i want to continue

05:27:35.640 seeing her but when she told me that like i would we would have done already wait what the

05:27:41.720 am i saying we would have already been we would have been in a long-term relationship but she kind

05:27:48.840 of i she fumbled that she she played too many games she played a game i don't i would have yeah

05:27:54.600 yeah that's fair for you to like the idea that women control like the relationship with sex i

05:28:02.360 always i always thought it was like discussing to to try to weaponize the ability to have sex with

05:28:08.440 your partner as a way to get things that you want oh maybe because that that does happen a lot i just

05:28:13.720 lose interest too yeah i just lose it like i because for me i don't want to ever be in a situation where

05:28:20.040 i'm like i'm never the pushy guy yeah like you know i'll make a move but if you say like if you're

05:28:27.480 like no i'm okay i'm like it's over ultimate i'm i'm getting up we're not making out anymore it's over

05:28:33.400 but i'll quickly you know the first one or two times if she she wants to wait a bit okay but if

05:28:39.720 she's not enthusiastic about wanting that it's a wrap i'm not interested on to the next one because

05:28:45.080 because i want to deal with a girl who has like genuine desire like she wants to what is what was

05:28:50.440 that lindsey thank you next by hariana oh yeah i mean don't play games with brian guys i think to

05:28:59.320 play games he'll turn on his ps5 i think that having an emotional connection is just as poor sorry i think

05:29:05.720 having a sexual connection and a sexual like need for the other person or want for the other person is

05:29:10.600 just as important as cultivating an emotional connection with somebody like if you if that's

05:29:16.200 your person and that's the only person you're doing that with like it should be special it should

05:29:21.080 be something that you guys like make happen together like i don't know if that makes sense like

05:29:28.120 you you got to spend time both with the sexual side of things and the emotional side of things

05:29:32.920 i think those come those become a beautiful thing whenever you can have both in the relationship

05:29:37.960 uh chloe you wanted to say something there before the chat no i forgot it's going too long

05:29:42.920 oh i remember we were having a conversation you were outside i don't think you were here but it was

05:29:48.600 about uh women with like high body counts and we were talking about like trauma and it's like you

05:29:53.480 know women who have been like told that that's all their value is and stuff like that and i just

05:29:57.880 found it super ironic because i got roasted for saying that to live as a man is to live a traumatized

05:30:04.520 experience of a woman and i just think you guys like proved me right because men are taught

05:30:10.280 constantly right from young that they need the notches in their belt they need to sleep with all

05:30:14.440 these women and that's just supposed to be normal and we almost like clown them we're like oh well

05:30:20.600 we're judged and you guys have it so easy but then when we go through that and our value is placed on

05:30:27.000 how much we can like put out or whatever then it's like this traumatizing experience which it

05:30:33.320 does it does stem from trauma and stems from us being told that that's like all our value is so

05:30:37.640 i just find it super interesting that we have to be traumatized in order to live what most men go

05:30:42.840 through i don't daily i don't think men are necessarily told that their worth is based on

05:30:50.600 their body count yes they are yeah for sure i have a little boy i have a little boy and i had a friend

05:30:58.440 like a year and a half ago at my house that actually kicked out of my house because she wouldn't stop

05:31:02.920 making comments to him saying that he was going to be such a ladies man oh my god and look at all

05:31:07.400 the girls you got yeah i'm like he's two what are you yeah absolutely it starts right from young and

05:31:13.560 how many they don't necessarily say how many women you can sleep with but being able to get with women

05:31:20.280 have lots of girlfriends and we're in today's society where hookup culture is very i mean men get

05:31:25.320 clowned for being virgins all the time we literally say that to them as an insult like what are you an

05:31:29.080 incel virgin like it's we definitely shit on men if they're virgins yeah so i just i just i just found

05:31:35.640 that interesting and that i am right yeah when guys go when guys go out in groups you know they like

05:31:41.880 antagonize each other and they're like oh you're not gonna pull tonight yeah it's like yeah yeah don't

05:31:46.840 put that much pressure on it but at the end of the day it's like how we were talking about that when

05:31:49.960 we go through that and we like you know go through these promiscuous phases at the end of the day it's

05:31:54.600 like traumatizing because we're still left feeling empty um and that's men and that's why i say you

05:31:59.080 guys should not be don't listen to that don't be out here sleeping with whoever you can because men

05:32:03.960 do that and at the end of the day they still feel lost they still feel alone they still take up the

05:32:08.520 majority of the suicide rate the homeless rate the homicide rate so just a little tidbit

05:32:15.960 we have some messages here from vermillion he's uh this is kind of quite a few things

05:32:21.880 uh he says the problem is women are giving things away for free for some men and asking more from

05:32:28.200 others you can't let men joy ride a car and then make up charge for a used car up charge for a used

05:32:36.120 car they don't wait i've heard this a million times women do not wait when they have genuine desire

05:32:41.640 they don't want a guy who waits they want a guy who sticks around

05:32:44.520 uh left you okay he also says i don't necessarily disagree with that if a guy took every single

05:32:53.160 other girl on a date and committed and then only wanted to sleep with her would they have a raw deal

05:32:59.880 i don't understand is that a fair is that a comparison though genuine question if a guy goes

05:33:05.640 out on a date with all these women and he's like you're not good enough to sleep with but chooses to

05:33:09.320 sleep with one is he's shitting out the other women that he didn't sleep with that's a fair question

05:33:15.240 right what do you think brian do you feel like you have slighted women that you didn't give your

05:33:20.360 purple-headed yogurt slinger to you guys must not be familiar with my content my bad guys

05:33:30.840 uh i don't know there's probably a differential there i guess what is like i don't think women are

05:33:36.920 that they i don't think women are as sex motivated as men we are uh well i think for example i think

05:33:45.480 women enjoy sex more than women but i don't think this idea more like men are motivated men are just

05:33:53.240 uh well i mean when it comes to testosterone men are just like hornier men want i think men want sex

05:33:58.440 more not to say well hold on look okay hold on hold on okay as a general statement i think this is the

05:34:05.000 case i also think it is the case that women in relationships if they really are attracted to

05:34:11.080 the guy and they're in love they can have over a voracious sexual appetite so i'm not saying that

05:34:17.560 women are these prudish creatures that are engaging in sex out of some sort of duty i think women they

05:34:24.600 enjoy sex they like sex oftentimes they sometimes have higher sex drive than men but as a sort of

05:34:30.280 generalized statement i think men are more motivated by sex yeah i can agree with that yeah women's

05:34:36.680 also it's fluctuates during our cycle so like when we're ovulating it's like like the luteal stage or

05:34:43.160 whatever all that stuff that's real yeah i'm like i'm ready to take brian right now

05:34:48.760 what stage are you in i know she's ovulating how about this i've got a couple examples i'd love to

05:34:59.800 give you guys i'm going to give you three analogies maybe four okay who here wants a guy to pay for the

05:35:06.040 first date okay you so let's say you really like this particular guy you go on a date everything is

05:35:12.280 great but you find out he wants to go 50 50 with you until you guys are married then you learn his

05:35:19.160 last three girlfriends he paid for everything rent dates vacations he even went on a date a week before

05:35:27.960 he went on a date with you and he paid the entire bill how does that make you feel i actually experienced

05:35:34.360 something like this with the fake spy guy um before me he dated two women and he got them both

05:35:41.640 boob jobs he got them both like all the face stuff they wanted bought them new cars bought them new

05:35:47.960 houses blah blah blah whenever they broke up he literally bought them a new place so that they could

05:35:54.600 be secure and safe in their life we started dating he's telling me he wants to marry me he wants to spend

05:35:59.720 the rest of his life with me he's trying to get me to move in all this stuff but he says that

05:36:04.200 he won't like at that point he was like i would never give you a boob job what unless we were

05:36:09.880 married oh and i was like but you gave two other girls he's buying titties for me yeah right i was

05:36:17.000 like i was like it was easy for you to do it for two girls i give a lot of advice to men but i'd like

05:36:21.800 to give some advice to women any guy you're dealing with and if he wants to pay for you to get plastic

05:36:30.360 surgery i think that's a red flag yeah yeah i think that's a red flag run so more advice for

05:36:36.440 the ladies here if he's like trying to get you to get your tits done i think in my case i was

05:36:42.040 the one that wanted to get my tits done um also did you hear from them that he paid for it uh no i

05:36:48.840 didn't because because he might have been telling you that to get you on the hook to be like oh he

05:36:54.520 might pay for mine oh my god we have a check so he might have wait my issue with roma is she gained a

05:37:01.560 lot of weight also she's a scammer she takes payment for content she never delivers if you comment about

05:37:09.000 it on her videos it gets erased i'm not the only one what content are people paying for wait what

05:37:18.680 is it bogus i'm so confused and i i did gain weight i'm not going to get offended here but i just want

05:37:24.920 to point out that i was literally anorexic and 108 pounds and this is what a healthy body looks like so

05:37:30.680 this is thank you this is what this is what healthy bodies look like okay all right uh tell

05:37:38.440 my stomach's like brian shut up no we have master monkey man 34 the art wait you read this oh the

05:37:47.640 eternally conquered welsh spirit chair four has won the blind voice review again but her fake english

05:37:54.280 accent is a product of what does that say i can't read it elocution elocution ask her to use her real

05:38:00.040 accent for the rest of the show this is my real accent i'm sorry people are mad that i'm fat they're

05:38:04.920 mad at your accent i'm like whales um sometimes they do get a little bit of a welsh accent going

05:38:11.720 just to blend in i got to give you a few more scenarios though okay you go to an ice cream shop

05:38:18.600 there's 10 people in line in front of you each of those 10 people get the ice cream for free

05:38:24.120 you finally get to the front of the line and now they tell you it's going to be a hundred dollars

05:38:28.920 how would that make you feel how would that make you feel and they're they're announcing the ice

05:38:36.040 cream shop free ice cream free ice cream get some free ice cream but not for you can i ask brian oh

05:38:43.880 okay go ahead okay what is because i i know that you believe in like a threshold so what is the

05:38:49.160 threshold for being able because we can't all stay logically consistent always right we grow and we

05:38:54.600 change so what is the bar for you obviously like a girl getting a train ran on her one night and then

05:38:59.720 the next day trying to like act like she loves jesus logically inconsistent but you for example i've

05:39:05.800 been watching you for a few years and you have like you've grown in a lot of a lot of different ways

05:39:10.920 your opinions have changed they've grown they've developed they've become more um intellectually

05:39:15.720 interpreted so what is the line where people can kind of stray away from how they used to think or

05:39:22.680 used to feel do you think there's a time gap is there like what what would that look like

05:39:28.840 sure i mean i think it's it makes more sense if there's been a gap of time like in kate's case she

05:39:37.240 says she's been celibate for a year and a half or whatever i don't know she's and it's fine but she

05:39:43.400 doesn't want to reveal too much about her past history i think that's less of a raw deal of course

05:39:51.480 than if you know let's say kate she just had a one night stand a week ago and then she's coming

05:39:57.480 on the podcast saying acting like she got standards she's saying oh well i'm waiting until marriage now

05:40:02.120 i would find this a bit dubious but given that she at least what she said she's been celibate for

05:40:06.840 a year and a half uh that comes off to me as yes it is less of a raw deal so it there's not it's not black

05:40:16.120 or white there's nuance to this but uh oh my god can we have her read them for the rest of the night

05:40:23.560 because i just want to hear her accent the whole time i should have had her do have her do all of

05:40:27.480 them i should have had her do the kind of show please please please

05:40:31.160 they sound nicer even the mean ones sound nice you gotta remind me that you're our official reader

05:40:36.120 um i'm your ai voice here i have some more please roundabout i've got a couple more analogies how

05:40:42.440 about this one the better analogy is telling your date that all of your exes got five-star meals

05:40:49.160 but she gets mcdonald's because you've turned over a new leaf and decided that money has better uses

05:40:56.680 than trying to impress people i mean that dude just needs to find me because i prefer mcdonald's

05:41:01.160 over a five-star meal so i'll be happy with that all right there you go

05:41:04.440 how about this she's uh imagine every woman the man uh she's going for has dated in the past

05:41:11.640 got tons of effort trips to hawaii paris tokyo personally selected gifts based on her likes

05:41:17.800 excellent communication on everything she needs to know about etc but only for typically casual you

05:41:23.400 know casual things never for relationships but now that she gets with him he decides to be very tight

05:41:29.960 with his money and effort no no trips further than target and uh but when she asks when she asks

05:41:43.000 what's up with that why why were you so nice to these other girls he responds it's because i knew

05:41:48.600 they were just momentary fun but i think you might be the perfect partner so you have to earn all the

05:41:55.400 effort i normally just give out goodbye so i have something to say about that i think

05:42:01.480 it would you would have to have a conversation about it but if it's a guy that says something like

05:42:06.840 hey yeah i was dating and i made some mistakes and i paid too quickly for things for women that took

05:42:14.200 advantage of me and i don't want that to happen with you it hurt me it didn't do anything for me

05:42:21.320 and he's saying i want to approach this relationship in a healthier way where i know

05:42:28.120 that you aren't looking at me for just my money so i prefer to split things 50 50 until we are in a

05:42:35.240 committed like at a place where both people are comfortable and he's he's feeling more secure with

05:42:41.080 that you aren't just there for his money so if it's a guy who's saying hey for the past three girlfriends

05:42:46.360 i took them here i took them here i paid for this i paid for that and they cheated on me and

05:42:50.440 they left me so i am damn i'm hurt from that and i don't want you to do the same thing that's a little

05:42:57.080 different and i think if the woman really actually likes the man she would be willing to look at that

05:43:01.080 and go okay i can understand your pain and your hurt in that situation so i'm okay you know doing this

05:43:09.320 right now knowing that in the future if he's like hey when we're married sure no problem i'll pay for

05:43:16.280 it whatever i just don't want to get burned again i've been hurt right but okay it's my analysis is

05:43:23.560 my analysis here is from the other person's perspective so in this case the guy's allowed

05:43:31.400 to do that oh some girl used him for money blah blah blah whatever he wants to switch up he wants to go

05:43:37.000 50 50 on dates he only wants to go for walks he wants to do something free or cheap the guy can do

05:43:42.680 that but if that woman who's going on a date with she finds out that a week before or all the previous

05:43:49.880 relationships he's had finds out that he did all this extra shit bought flowers gifts etc and she felt

05:43:58.440 a type of way about that i wouldn't fault her for feeling a type of way or thinking a type of way

05:44:07.080 thinking this seems a bit unfair does he actually is he actually really interested does he have genuine

05:44:13.000 desire for me or what's going on here and that's right so that's that's the analysis i think having

05:44:19.320 that conversation about that is going to be very telling if the man tells the woman i've been hurt by

05:44:25.320 this i've been burned by this before and i would really prefer it if we can do things 50 50 and

05:44:30.200 she says well i'm not interested then then i think that's pretty clear that she's not interested in him

05:44:36.360 she wants his money yeah and it's it's actually well i don't think it's actually wrong for a woman to

05:44:43.160 have have a sort of expectation when it comes to dating on this like if if a girl uh she wants a guy to

05:44:52.360 pay for the for the dinner i don't think that that's i don't think that's necessarily an indicator

05:44:58.840 that she's just after his money you wanted to wait on this it's harder for a woman to pressure

05:45:04.440 a man into paying for things and doing certain stuff for her but it's easier for a man to pressure

05:45:09.480 women into sex wait hold on i disagree it's hold on because a lot of girls who have had like let's say

05:45:16.840 only one time sleeping with a man it could be because you know he said i want a relationship with

05:45:21.640 you and like come on let's do this like you want to be with me he could do one and done and then

05:45:25.880 leave sure he could lie and so i'm just saying i think it's easier for a man to like sort of be more

05:45:31.880 dominant over a woman and pressure her into doing that than a woman being like pay for this pay for

05:45:36.200 that do that do this or maybe i'm just not that pushy totally following um i i say would i think it'd be

05:45:44.280 far more likely that when it that it's it's a much more common occurrence that met because i mean

05:45:53.080 all first dates don't result in a sexual encounter so i would say the the rate of this happening

05:46:01.320 where there's like a social a generalized cultural and social pressure for men to pay for first dates

05:46:06.040 yeah this is something that occurs more than specific sexual encounters yeah you're just

05:46:13.720 sort of comparing the two things the men paying for things and then the sex is what that's what

05:46:18.680 you're comparing these two analogies so i'm just saying i think one is a little more you know probable

05:46:26.040 what do you mean probable are you saying it's more probable that men get sex from women pressure

05:46:32.840 women into doing things more probable that i think like more probable that they're able wait

05:46:37.960 women go on foodie dates without any intention of anything long term or or so that's also even if

05:46:44.040 she is going into the date with genuine intentions plenty of women like i would say women go on more

05:46:50.040 first dates and don't end up sleeping with the guy like women go on a lot of the first dates and don't

05:46:55.160 fuck the guy women don't have they don't have to say buy me this or do this for me because it's

05:47:00.200 already a social expectation right i think is brian's point yes but i think comparing sleeping

05:47:04.920 with somebody to buying them a dinner is different i think the comparison would be more likely to

05:47:09.320 be like hey i can push you into sex or can i push you into like buying me a trip to hawaii yeah like

05:47:15.480 sex is not as cheap as just a meal yeah but that's not the comparison that's being made the the analogy is to

05:47:21.640 not say that a specific meal is the same value as a sexual encounter no but i think what she was

05:47:32.360 trying to get out was like men give love to get sex and women give sex to get love and that's something

05:47:38.040 like i was even taught in high school but like it's just it's not everybody obviously you can't you

05:47:45.480 can't way different as not applying as an escort i literally manipulate men into falling in love

05:47:55.080 with me and or having deep emotional connection to me so that i can get money from them like if

05:48:02.040 we're going to break it down like but how do you manipulate them like do do you like them think that

05:48:07.480 they're gonna if they were love them and you like what's where's like as in the way that you talk the

05:48:14.040 way that you move like the way that you do like the way that you text all that stuff it's all

05:48:18.760 playing into the girlfriend experience getting what i would like from that person they are also

05:48:25.480 doing the same thing with me maybe they're just more honest and like hey i would like sex and i'm

05:48:30.520 like okay i would like blah blah blah so do you feel like it's easier for women to do it than for men

05:48:36.280 i think it's way i think it's way more common and easier for women to string along men with the

05:48:42.120 the just the idea that they might be able to to what is it smash or whatever right that's like

05:48:48.840 coming from a sex worker worker point of view rather than like just the dating scenario that

05:48:53.320 they're talking about well like i'm not gonna have sex with a guy because he's like hey i might have

05:48:58.760 sex with you you know but like i feel like a girl would be like hey i might have sex with you and

05:49:05.000 they'll buy them whatever they want even if they never actually do get to that point i think men do that

05:49:10.840 with committed relationships though they i think men do that with committed relationships they say

05:49:16.600 uh yeah maybe i'll commit to you one day maybe i'll marry you one day i want to get married

05:49:21.400 to manipulate them into sleeping with them when they have no intention of actually being with them

05:49:25.800 yeah okay i can see both sides of it for sure i don't know women get more of the sex anyways

05:49:32.120 do we no just kidding i don't know y'all be

05:49:35.560 fucking twitching your legs and shit multiple orgasms that come on what what are the orgasms in

05:49:44.280 the room with us women women y'all be coming like four or five times you fucking

05:49:50.120 i mean if you're lucky we're lucky brian well not all the right guys not all women lots of them

05:49:55.960 fake it brian tons of women leave an experience you're lucky i'm sorry to hear that not once

05:50:02.680 i'm not saying they're faking it with you i'm just saying they're fake they might be they might

05:50:06.360 be tons of women leave an experience very let down i only act interested if i'm actually having fun

05:50:12.600 if i'm not having fun then let's just stop for a little bit but if if you're having fun you're not

05:50:16.840 acting though right huh if you're having fun you're not acting what do you mean i only act

05:50:22.520 interested if i'm having fun no no i i am interested in having a connection with these

05:50:27.320 people but again like there is the if they weren't paying me would i still go and spend my time with

05:50:33.800 them no yeah and they know that and i know that uh guys we're lowering the tts for the rest of the

05:50:39.080 show to 99 uh 99 tts and we have oh dan sent one in before this came in but dan donated 200 look at

05:50:50.920 roma's patreon comments of guys asking where their promised pictures are and she advertises nsfw

05:50:58.200 content with a higher tier and you don't find out it doesn't exist until it's too late but if i advertise

05:51:04.520 it then how can i i'm confused look there are a lot of people you need to make sure that you're like

05:51:10.440 vetting properly because there's somebody in texas that has a fucking only fans with my like

05:51:16.120 profile picture so i'm just not yeah i'm just not buying it i don't know why this guy keeps

05:51:22.680 paying money to keep saying this it's fake news yeah i'm just not buying it uh okay we have

05:51:28.200 probably a hundred dollar tts streamlabs.com whatever all right um yes let's see uh okay moving

05:51:38.360 on to kenna or wait no we already did your notes moving on baby tay big booty baby tay

05:51:46.200 single is a pringle is how you described yourself you said one ex he was a serial cheater and now

05:51:53.000 going to jail for shooting his ex oh my god yes on the 11th she tried to run him over and he shot her

05:51:59.000 in the leg oh well she was trying to run him over wait what happened um he's a very addicted to alcohol

05:52:06.920 cocaine very very wild i heard from a friend of a friend i don't know if she tried to run him over

05:52:13.400 but he shot her while she was in the car and it went through her leg did she survive oh yeah she's doing

05:52:20.040 okay okay she's chilling uh let's see here we have that's not lovely uh you wanted to talk about

05:52:31.880 you wanted to talk about dating a sex worker and the benefits yes i'm actually so happy that you

05:52:37.720 have a relationship i'm honestly just loving that yes loving it because i want a relationship like that

05:52:44.200 and i think it's just so this is something that i want to do i'm obviously not going to do it forever

05:52:49.080 i have like a plan for myself i want to go to school and stuff like that but as of right now

05:52:52.360 this is what i want to do so i have a lot of people that want to date me but they're like i want to date

05:52:56.840 you when you're done with only fans oh yeah like i'm just gonna wait wait for that you're gonna wait

05:53:04.680 you're gonna wait for 10 years when they maybe don't want you anymore and then try to go back to

05:53:09.640 them and say hey i'm done with only fans ready yeah but i don't want to wait for them that's the thing

05:53:14.440 yep uh okay i was just trying to figure out what the fuck that guy was talking about it's definitely

05:53:19.560 baby tay uh you said you love the show ready to argue disagree all of the above

05:53:26.600 what do you disagree on i haven't heard any arguing yet i know i haven't really

05:53:30.920 oh i got my ass ate by this girlie over here i guess

05:53:36.040 what

05:53:36.360 she went hard on me i don't know

05:53:42.600 i've never seen an ass in my life she said oh my god i've only been with two women

05:53:48.200 i guess i know i know my fiance's heart was just like what i'm sorry what are your disagreements

05:53:53.960 um as of right now i guess i don't really have any right now you said you disagree when

05:54:01.400 you say sex workers will never find love uh i don't even say that but here's my position really

05:54:06.200 quickly i think that women who are sex workers it is going to close the door for some men oh

05:54:13.720 perhaps a lot of men some men are just not going to want to maybe they'll well some men will

05:54:18.520 fuck you but they won't be in a relationship with you and some men won't want anything

05:54:22.680 or they'll thank you but they're not going to take you seriously yes but you could you can find

05:54:26.840 somebody good yeah sex workers they can find boyfriends they can get married they can whatever

05:54:32.440 they can they can do it my fiance wouldn't have married me if i had a body count it does make

05:54:36.680 more 200 though does make it more difficult body count shouldn't really matter if you it does if

05:54:41.320 that's 200 all right i don't think so crystal crystal nalia that's just your opinion how's how

05:54:48.840 do you actually say your name though crystal nalia into the mic if you can crystal you're a black

05:54:53.720 female conservative in oakland california you have a master's in what i'm getting my master's

05:54:58.360 in public administration okay uh and then you said you wanted to uh oh you basically you

05:55:08.120 don't hate men but you had bad experience but you don't hate men yeah i mean i don't hate man i

05:55:16.920 love penis well loving penis and loving men but i've also had bad experiences perhaps based on

05:55:24.440 previous trauma so and that's where it gets into like people are willing to or if they're willing

05:55:29.320 to change then they have to go and look for a certain type of man or a partner in general so

05:55:34.040 that's where i am right now okay all right cool uh hold on one sec guys try not somebody sent me

05:55:40.440 some notes kind of last minute does anybody remember who was it was it you yes okay i'll

05:55:47.720 take a look at the instagram really quick oh by the way guys we were supposed to have 10 people on the

05:55:51.480 panel but one person flaked i want to ask the chat do you think or sorry they didn't flake but they were

05:55:57.080 running like 50 minutes late uh and then she she but she did arrive but she was just so late i had

05:56:02.680 to turn her away chat do you think that that was wrong should we have tried to accommodate her

05:56:07.000 or is 50 minutes just that's way too no that's way too late i felt shitty being 15 minutes 12 minutes

05:56:13.480 late i was like i was like oh he's gonna hate me where is she coming from though is she coming from like

05:56:19.720 out of state because then maybe yes i came from seattle and i got here on time yeah i mean

05:56:24.040 i came from canada and i came here on time exactly uh okay oh jemma so you said is pretty privilege a

05:56:32.200 thing i'm just going to blast through these yes gender roles in the home gender roles throughout

05:56:36.360 history matriarchal versus patriarchal upbringing in the home uh okay let's do this one feminism the

05:56:42.520 misinformed in the real meaning so go ahead um i mean i think you guys talk about this a lot too um

05:56:49.080 feminist i think that's like what your whole page is about actually is like feminism has it's go to

05:56:56.840 like oh i'm a girl boss i don't need no man i'm an independent woman i can make my own money sell my

05:57:03.080 body do whatever i i want but then that's not feminism like it's not equality like i don't know how to

05:57:11.720 explain it okay claim has a chat then claim donated 100 women newsmen they always have we are okay

05:57:22.120 with it there is only one woman on this panel worth anything the rest are shallow and pedantic

05:57:28.280 wow which one is it oh don't do that oh wow why don't you tell us which one it is

05:57:33.320 i think there's more than one there's more than one um okay um oh yeah i think feminism i'm gonna

05:57:42.040 start a civil war i think feminism has definitely like destroyed the dating pool so far just because

05:57:48.680 of what you were bringing up like there's a special place for men and women to work in tandem and new

05:57:54.360 age feminism has kind of deleted what's necessary of men kind of because women are kind of taking that

05:58:01.320 roll over so i think new wave feminism has just been detrimental to not only women but the dating

05:58:07.080 scene in general yeah it's gone too far i think it's been detrimental to most of our society right

05:58:12.360 right because i'm just dating it's enhanced like the hookup culture and things like that and then

05:58:16.200 women are still sad and like depressed even though men take up a lot of the suicides i mean feminism

05:58:22.040 i'm not sad i've been happier i think feminism as it initially began with like the suffragette movement

05:58:30.200 and all that was to create equality and then now it's no girl boss you can do whatever you want

05:58:36.760 you don't need no man like i don't necessarily think it's there's i don't think like i said earlier i

05:58:41.320 don't think women or men should heavily um put themselves in a position where they're 100 reliant

05:58:47.480 on somebody else i think that's stupid what i think is being taken advantage of is uh it's been

05:58:54.200 weaponized even to the point we saw with that crash out kylie right she felt like she was humiliated

05:58:59.960 she was wrong and instead of taking back accountability she decided to use bud word

05:59:05.080 buzzwords and like put the reputation and the way of the men on this podcast at risk she sounds like

05:59:11.800 she was actually hurt the way that she's speaking oh yeah crying but that's because i'd be like oh

05:59:17.720 no girl nobody even thinks twice that's that's that's a thing right or like she compared it to essay as

05:59:23.960 well which is like you need to chill the fuck out i just feel like everybody's a girl's girl until

05:59:29.560 they're not like you like you're probably would you describe yourself as a girl's girl

05:59:34.760 well you weren't here for my last time i was here on this podcast but i was speaking up about

05:59:38.920 femicide and essay and all the other things that affect women so are you a girl's girl yeah i was

05:59:45.000 getting there okay so yes you are okay so you're a girl's girl yet you will take money from other wives

05:59:51.160 husbands just to pay your own bills and you were kind of like well that's their fault for paying for

05:59:57.000 sex so there's this like double standard where we're like oh yeah we're girls girls until it just

06:00:03.000 like no longer benefits us until we can weaponize it against each other against men and i find it

06:00:09.400 absolutely moronic it's supposed to be equality equality means accepting equal responsibility and i see

06:00:14.760 a hell of a lot of women in 2025 demanding a man from the 1960s that's gonna pay their bills and do

06:00:22.920 this and do that meanwhile they want to disrespect men like a 2025 woman and just like they just don't

06:00:29.880 act it they don't have the decorum to demand that kind of respect then what about women like me who've

06:00:34.280 been a breadwinner in every single relationship and i prefer to pay for myself and pay for them because

06:00:39.560 then it's all on me you prefer to pay for your partner i do in all instances i do yeah but what's

06:00:45.240 your point everything yeah you can't just generalize all women like that but how did i please be specific

06:00:51.560 you just did no i used a very specific modern feminist i used a specific example for you which

06:00:57.160 was claiming you're a girl's girl yet knowingly taking money and taking husbands away from wives because

06:01:03.080 they're paying you and i said that a lot obviously not all women that's kind of a a given but um yeah

06:01:11.000 a lot of them you see it and it's it's not necessarily you it's not necessarily them it's

06:01:14.920 the reaction to them that speaks higher to the issues with feminism because that girl can go on here

06:01:21.160 and be like i was a victim and there's people starting gofundmes or the brick lady do you all remember

06:01:26.600 the brick lady you remember that woman that popped up on social media and she's like i rejected these two

06:01:31.640 black men and they hit me in the face with the brick you remember that she had this big swollen

06:01:35.160 cheek everybody she garnered forty thousand dollars and i knew something was up with that woman so i

06:01:40.520 researched her and she has a history of being a victim of like random not necessarily hate crimes just

06:01:48.200 like you know some woman like ran her cart into her in the parking lot and she's like oh it's you know

06:01:54.120 because i'm black and she would get all of these different donations and so i noticed that i called it

06:01:59.640 out and i got called a racist for an entire year i love how she's like not looking at me she's like

06:02:04.520 okay anyways i just don't care to interact with you so okay but you asked me a question because you've

06:02:10.920 been rude this whole time anyway so i don't want to interact with you she garnered forty thousand

06:02:15.560 dollars nobody looked into her i looked into her got called a racist by the entire internet for a year

06:02:21.560 until the authorities actually did the research into this woman um and i was right she had an allergic

06:02:27.320 reaction to botox they took ctv footage there was no men that hit her in the face with a brick

06:02:32.840 she's now being charged forced to pay all of that money back and nobody thought twice and i got

06:02:37.640 villainized and demonized for just being honest right it happens all the time even in this conversation

06:02:42.600 you're checked out because i'm calling you on something that you don't like so you'll be abrasive

06:02:47.400 you'll be like this is my opinion but then the moment somebody challenges that you're like

06:02:51.640 like no i that's feminism ladies and gentlemen thank you very much i've never even called myself

06:02:57.080 a feminist you said you were a girl's girl and then you said you are a feminist because you said

06:03:01.240 last time you were on here that you were talking about femicide and all these things so this is

06:03:05.080 what i'm talking about is mental gymnastics because you're great standing up for women's health and

06:03:09.560 safety which i think is important just as much as men's am i tripping well i mean just because

06:03:14.200 that's the real definition of feminism not the new age one just because you stand for women's you want

06:03:20.440 women to be safe and things like that that's that's necessarily just like a human experience

06:03:24.840 you want that for humans but when you weaponize your sexuality for a certain means to an end then

06:03:30.360 maybe that's where the new age feminism is coming in right you can scream i've been you know graped

06:03:35.960 or something like that when in reality maybe there's a scenario like this where nobody was even

06:03:39.560 around you like that that's more often than not let me give you a scenario let's say we have a

06:03:44.360 pdf file right who assaults their child and then the mother does nothing about it and

06:03:50.280 then that child grows up and like uses their sexuality to then make ends meet and also like

06:03:57.640 provide for the people they care about are you going to say it's completely the girl's fault no

06:04:03.320 what we said that earlier no well but that's what you're telling me that's my scenario i think i

06:04:08.040 think i think that's how you've been coming at me the entire time i don't think that has anything

06:04:13.880 to do with somebody talking about execute it ladies take notes from her she's i mean i just want to

06:04:19.240 give you a round of applause because i'll say one thing and you'll be like i think that thank you i

06:04:24.440 think that you need it's not something to be proud of it's actually shows very low intelligence i think

06:04:29.160 you need to how do you feel about that lindsey she just said you had low intelligence thank you

06:04:35.640 both my sisters are doctors i don't i don't but are you no i'm saying thank you i don't you know i

06:04:41.240 appreciate you calling me out that's awesome so you can't arrest me i did not say that i said my

06:04:46.840 dad was something else uh can you read this for lucy i don't know i think you need to be reminded

06:04:51.800 hold on hold on hold on go ahead read it the only one being abrasive right now is you seat eight

06:04:57.160 thank you i think you need to know the definition of abrasive i can't remember what's your name thank you

06:05:03.320 lindsey oh my gosh i think you need to be reminded that you i love lucy goosey you know what lucy i

06:05:12.680 you know she she she did fuck 150 guys before freshman year of college but you know what together

06:05:20.600 i'm not surprised lucy i give i give her respect because lucy goosey she's honest she's honest and

06:05:29.320 and uh she's kind of chill she's kind of chill she's a chill gal she probably fucking hates me

06:05:36.040 not at all i give her the respect i give her the uh credit where credit is due she's honest

06:05:43.960 she she's totally open book absolutely very open book everything's open she's a thesaurus

06:05:52.120 yeah yeah go ahead kate i think lindsey i think you need to be reminded that you are loved and you

06:05:59.800 are worthy of real love and you don't need to use your body to get that you are worth so much more

06:06:07.560 i'm not i know but saying what you said where you say a trauma can i finish really no you can't because

06:06:13.400 i have a psychiatrist i'm not trying to know you can't finish because you're holding out to me

06:06:18.440 never guessed you of all people would be in i'm saying this right three years in i'm saying

06:06:25.400 don't get that from i'm on 200 milligrams of zoloft man that's why i'm zonked out

06:06:30.680 because you mentioned that if there's a child that is treated awfully in a way that no child should ever

06:06:37.240 be treated that tends to scar people in ways that people that haven't had that done to them don't

06:06:43.240 understand and it tends to make you think that your worth and your value stems from that that i

06:06:52.040 agree and and that's why i just say i think you need to be reminded that you are worth so much more

06:06:58.120 than that i appreciate and you are loved so much more than that and you are a beautiful person and

06:07:03.480 that all of that stuff is not going to make you worthy it's not going to make you whole it's not going

06:07:09.960 to complete you and in the long run it might actually do more harm than good yeah look i love

06:07:17.560 all you guys on here except for me be honest but at the same time you're looking at it from a

06:07:23.640 perspective and not realizing like how my life actually is like and yeah i put my mom through

06:07:28.200 school like i'm very proud of that i'm very proud of setting her up you should be proud i'm proud because

06:07:33.080 i'm using myself and you know what i'm okay with that i'm okay with that on top of that anyways wow

06:07:39.800 that's great you guys can have uh you guys can have a therapy session after the show yeah no i was

06:07:44.520 gonna say i think many would agree that people in the not wait let her read it let her read it oh

06:07:49.240 sorry you're right we don't want to hear you monogamous monogamous i think many people would agree

06:07:55.320 that people in monogamous relationships there is a word monogamous no but there's another word it's like

06:08:01.320 magnanimous sorry go ahead relationship shouldn't be leering at other people should you dress

06:08:09.080 differently after you get into a relationship than when you were single are there any behaviors

06:08:13.880 that should change after you get into a relationship thank you for christopher you don't go to the club

06:08:19.240 anymore or like bar scene uh okay i want to dress like modest in public for my husband but then in

06:08:28.440 private i would want to be like really sexy for him sweet sweet i think that's a fair like

06:08:36.520 you should want that for your partner because then that shows that they're being considerate

06:08:42.760 sorry go ahead they're being considerate and they're actually caring about how you view them

06:08:47.800 because in a relationship you guys are giving up things and adding things at the same time so

06:08:51.240 that's a fair expectation to be changing how you dress and like things like that natalia thank you

06:08:58.520 for the membership appreciate it thank you thank you uh all right where are we going you know what

06:09:03.800 we're going to do the questionnaire we're pretty much all done with the uh the the notes here so

06:09:08.280 why don't we do this any disagreements uh jemma you said you disagree with some of the language used

06:09:13.800 but mostly agree i don't know i think y'all are honestly pretty respectful um i think you guys

06:09:21.400 were having hold on you guys were just having this really sweet wholesome moment and i just obnoxiously

06:09:29.480 wow i'm a i'm a huge dick what the fuck really okay sorry respectful okay very respectful just

06:09:36.840 such a respectful person i think i'm gonna take back what i said about the language now you're now

06:09:41.080 your homies are you a caucasian bob sorry sorry are you my caucasian she's my caucasian all right

06:09:48.840 i think that you're my caucasian are you italian or what are you i'm a french canadian portuguese

06:09:55.720 and tatani su native american can i is she my canadian chat french canadian portuguese and

06:10:02.440 is definitely my caucasian definitely uh are you white latina i'm french canadian that's yeah

06:10:09.480 why are there so many canadians uh my caucasian 51st you can't say that brian you can't say that

06:10:17.480 brian well i can't say the other word but you're my caucasian is that more offensive like to call

06:10:24.280 a black person a white person no it's hilarious i'm gonna take this back to my community and tell

06:10:29.160 them i have a pass now what am i to you you're my caucasian okay i thought you were about to say the

06:10:35.800 other one no brian not here but if a black person says that to a white person it's a compliment that's

06:10:44.520 right yeah like that's a big not the caucasian one the other one we didn't know african-american

06:10:51.880 people were walking around saying you're my caucasian i'm too much of a caucasian to do that

06:10:58.200 let's see here we have what do we have what do we have oh we got let's do twitch really quick

06:11:04.840 barry gooseman thanks for the tier one appreciate it guys twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow

06:11:09.880 drop us a prime sub guys i think the follow button is bugged i think the prime button is bugged it's

06:11:14.440 been broken all night can you guys just do a little test test out if the follow button works test out if

06:11:20.280 the front the twitch prime button works test out guys all right we're gonna blast through the

06:11:23.640 questionnaire and uh fingers crossed not too late of a show but um any disagreements though from

06:11:31.160 anybody with me or chloe or chloe not stuff we talked about previously but i think you're great

06:11:39.880 and to answer your question i don't have anything against hoes i have everything against delusional

06:11:44.680 hoes you could be i used to be a hoe i'm not i'm in no different boat i'm just real about it that's

06:11:50.520 the difference well you just seem to have like a small hatred in your heart for hoes

06:11:56.760 like that where do you come up with you

06:12:02.440 oh we have dan here oh boy i think this is your haters nobody has to believe my claims but ladies

06:12:11.400 don't take any crap from chloe yeah she's the last person who needs to be running her mouth yeah

06:12:17.480 she's deceitful to say the least that's right dan i'm done taking your crap chloe is this like one

06:12:23.960 of your exes they found you online he's he's spent a lot of money yeah where's the champagne pop to

06:12:31.720 prove that you really hate her yeah yeah that's what we need yep a champagne pop will really prove

06:12:36.040 the hate champagne pop if you truly hate chloe literally right now

06:12:39.160 yeah i don't know what thank you jeep appreciate it we have a tts coming through here guys a hundred

06:12:45.640 dollar tts streamlabs.com slash whatever hundred dollar tts get him in boys if you have a question

06:12:50.600 get him in there it is oh no vector donated 100 vector the og sex peddlers aren't working

06:12:56.680 it's not a job earning money by manipulating others into intimacy what poppycock what poppycock

06:13:03.880 garbage i yet brian has dominated one hundred dollars of mine wow yeah that's crazy that's

06:13:13.720 crazy by the way i've noticed some of you girls have gotten up during the show and still haven't

06:13:18.760 paid me my tribute chloe here and kate have been the only ones so far to pay me a tribute i'm looking

06:13:28.600 i don't know later i don't care i think i got a spicy five dollar vindo uh jay i asked for a feet

06:13:38.280 clap we haven't heard no clapping right on camera any money no toes out i might just to get a response

06:13:47.560 from me just to even get a response 20 bucks but how much for feet clap oh that's i need a bitcoin for

06:13:56.760 that i'm uh i'm expensive i'm expensive all right uh okay let's get into the the questionnaire here

06:14:05.320 what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband starting with you um

06:14:11.640 i i honestly don't really know how to answer this but i you wouldn't date like a guy who works at

06:14:16.120 mcdonald's right i mean if he has enough money to pay for the bills as long as we can pay for the

06:14:22.360 bills as long as we aren't like struggling in the gutter huh what uh where do you live i live in uh

06:14:28.600 las vegas can people pay the bills in las vegas working at yeah um i mean i wouldn't say that's

06:14:36.280 easiest but i would want him to make at least over 50 grand okay sure y'all's minimum wage is 20 bucks

06:14:45.800 out here and that's that's pretty low to some standards i feel y'all can survive off mcdonald's

06:14:50.920 go ahead it could be zero i don't care oh my you want to stay at home husband i do

06:14:56.600 what do you really do you can be with my ex

06:15:00.600 bam matchmaker he'll be my assistant he's black too he might

06:15:05.720 um just the same amount as me or more like minimum same amount as me preferably not less

06:15:11.640 because i've done that quite a lot and it's not legit um it was like in the uk 120k a year and

06:15:19.480 then in america like 160k because health care is not free here right no no it's not taylor what about

06:15:26.120 you i think i said like 120 okay next yeah i'd feel comfortable 85 to 100k all right next probably

06:15:36.280 somewhere around that i think it depends on where we live i just want a comfortable decent life so they

06:15:41.160 don't have to make an extravagant amount but i'd like to be comfortable chloe what about you i don't

06:15:46.280 have a specific number for me it's about goals so my partner is building a successful business it's

06:15:51.800 it's gotten there and i'm proud of them so i don't really care as long as you're working towards

06:15:56.120 something and not just sitting on your ass and Chloe you've been successful for a long time so

06:16:00.840 have a lot of guys that you've dated have you been the breadwinner

06:16:03.640 in your relationships typically i've only been in uh oh my gosh i think two relationships since

06:16:13.160 blowing up and one of them i dated beforehand so what what was the question have you been the

06:16:19.400 breadwinner been the breadwinner in your uh relationship historically yeah but not since

06:16:24.840 um actually making money no gotcha no uh next question how tall are you and what's the minimum

06:16:31.320 height of a man you would date uh i'm five seven i would probably six foot i think okay

06:16:38.840 that's the minimum i i've dated short guy most of the people i've dated they've been sure probably

06:16:43.560 my height actually what about you i'm five three but i anything over or at five nine because i'm like

06:16:51.480 mentally five eight okay um monster thank you for the fifty dollar soup chat uh what about you um i'm five

06:16:59.320 two and anybody taller than me okay uh last boyfriend how tall was he six three uh-huh oh

06:17:08.200 see this is always uh i always should ask okay well you'll date a guy who's your height but how tall

06:17:14.520 was your last boyfriend one of the guys that i was with for a long time was he was like five four

06:17:19.400 like barely taller than me okay jade uh i'm five nine and i would like someone who's six foot or over

06:17:27.000 because in heels i'm like six one six two sure uh what about you uh i think i'm five three and i would

06:17:35.640 like someone at least six foot okay what about you i'm five ten and a half uh so anything taller

06:17:43.240 i love short kings but no and then my ex was like six one short kings are cool i mean you know okay

06:17:50.040 i am five seven and pretty much five six and above be fine sure chloe i'm five nine and a half the

06:17:59.160 half counts and my fiance is like what five six five seven so i dated someone that was five two i don't

06:18:05.080 give a fuck okay i just can't wear heels i forfeited them oh by the way nick is the uh the focus okay on

06:18:12.760 this camera is it okay yeah

06:18:20.360 i'm you're the focus on me yeah okay uh would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random

06:18:26.680 bear on a hike man okay lindsey lee i said man last time i'm gonna say bear this time i thought didn't

06:18:36.280 you say bear last time okay but you're saying bear this time okay what about you bear all right jade man

06:18:43.240 bear bear okay man all right man i love how everyone who accused me of not liking them because

06:18:50.600 they're sex workers are the ones that like chose bear that's why i don't like y'all because i can see

06:18:55.240 right through y'all that's why obviously a man i go hiking all the time and running and i pass by many

06:19:01.160 men and none of them have diddled me so is it smoky the bear because he seems pretty nice smoky

06:19:07.800 random bear sure yeah so chloe what's your take on the man versus bear thing do you have a response

06:19:13.560 to the women who uh picked the bear i think the same women that picked the bear not just you guys

06:19:18.600 but everybody who picks the bear is going to be the same one that's going to be like don't generalize

06:19:23.480 me don't say all women are this and that but yet they're like the first ones to just be like

06:19:28.280 all men are bad all men are shit all men are you're just fucking hypocrites and you're idiots because

06:19:33.320 bears first of all don't just kill you they kill you they keep you alive they rip you open they

06:19:39.960 shit in your wounds to mark their territory and y'all think you're safer with a fucking bear you're

06:19:45.240 delusional no most women would just rather have that horrific scenario that you just verbally

06:19:51.800 described happened to them than being raped right not every man no pardon there was a woman who was

06:19:58.840 camping and she was on her period and woke up to the bear literally like eating her from that area

06:20:06.600 so i don't think you want a bear yeah nobody wants there's been less than 10 there's been less than 10

06:20:14.040 deaths a year from a bear and that is not true where did you get that statistic google you pass

06:20:20.920 by millions of men every single day and none of them look twice at you i promise so it's we're just

06:20:27.640 we're not going to do the fear it is it's about women selecting a random man why are you talking so

06:20:34.760 loud uh-huh oh am i loud i apologize i am hard of hearing i think it's just her volume i think it's

06:20:39.880 it's just her volume in general my fiance hates it he checks really quick to your point though lindsey

06:20:44.520 uh while if we're looking in totality yes there are fewer bear attacks than there are like for

06:20:50.280 example men who murder women however this is we have to look at per capita or per encounter so the

06:20:58.120 vast majority of women never encounter a bear in their entire lives whereas almost all women will pass

06:21:04.920 by thousands if not tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of men in their entire life not to

06:21:11.000 mention the actual statistic in america i'm quite familiar with american statistics even though i'm

06:21:16.520 canadian just because my audience is american zero point zero zero zero two percent of the male

06:21:23.880 population will ever and have ever committed a violent crime whereas a hundred percent of the bears

06:21:30.360 who pass will definitely eat you so i mean i've never had any aggression shown towards me by any

06:21:36.360 bear that i've passed in the woods have you how many bears in the woods yeah i'm from a pacific

06:21:43.640 fucking northwest remember there was a girl on on here who was like russian or something and she was

06:21:50.920 like oh i used to cuddle bears in the woods and i used to like play with the bears in the woods i'd choose

06:21:55.720 a bear she was on this podcast okay sleeping like what really yeah so you used to play with let's

06:22:02.520 let's be realistic no the likelihood is that you're not going to have any interaction with the bear

06:22:07.000 you don't have a small fear in the back of your mind maybe nobody that knows anything about wildlife

06:22:11.560 or has ever been anywhere near a bear can i can i just finish the likelihood of the man as being you

06:22:17.400 is really low as well yeah it's very low but with a bear at zero you could die zero with a bear

06:22:22.520 they might say yeah but they might just kill you instead would you rather be s8 or dead

06:22:27.560 bold of you to assume i'm enthused to live sweetheart yeah it would be dead i would choose

06:22:32.920 death over being great that's the point still being alive honestly than being dead and that is your

06:22:40.440 prerogative babe that's good so we'll say you you're from the pacific you said so you've probably

06:22:46.360 let's be honest you probably passed like four bears and none of them have mauled you that's amazing

06:22:50.920 seven to ten sure you've passed millions of men your entire life and 99 i'm not going to assume

06:22:57.640 you may have trauma you may have bad experiences 99 of the ones you've passed have done the question

06:23:04.600 is always what would you rather pass alone in the woods a bear help me or a random man

06:23:10.920 a man that can help me make a fire catch some food i can do all that so maybe that's why i'm not

06:23:16.920 worried about that like who would you rather yes i can if you're alone on an island it would be much

06:23:22.120 easier if a man was with you than if you were on an island alone with a bear my issue with this

06:23:27.560 argument you guys are talking about walking past no we're talking about alone in the forest aka you're

06:23:33.640 stuck there by yourself stuck there by yourself with a man or or i don't necessarily i don't think

06:23:39.640 the question necessarily implies that you're stuck in the forest yeah exactly it's in passing it's

06:23:44.680 which would you rather pick to go in passing wait but question for somebody that's not terrified of

06:23:50.760 men you sure take money from them all the time i never said i was terrified of men don't you escort

06:23:56.040 did you say that you escort so you put yourself in situations where you're actually more likely

06:24:00.920 to come in contact with a man who is sexually violent who is aggressive who is going to

06:24:06.120 sexually assault i don't ask for you as an option so you can keep talking but i don't ask you just

06:24:11.240 nodded i asked you if you escorted no i didn't i said i'll let you finish didn't you say well you

06:24:15.720 said you do i said i had a i was a sugar baby for two years okay so escorting you are a hoe of any sort

06:24:22.120 so you thereby have put yourself in a position where you are far more likely to come across a man

06:24:28.440 who is like sexually violent and weird what i'm not understanding it's not even like we're using

06:24:35.080 if you were to ask me would i rather be alone in a forest with a bear or diddy i'm thinking i'm

06:24:39.640 picking the bear but we're talking about every single like average man here and i'm just you're

06:24:45.320 so definitely afraid of men i never said i was definitely afraid of men oh my god i said i'd rather

06:24:50.360 be killed than raped hun that's a different statement i want to pass back because he keeps

06:24:57.160 a glock on him matt i'm trying to find you in the woods so can you acknowledge though that in both

06:25:04.120 instances you could have a completely uneventful happening no she doesn't want to you could you

06:25:10.280 could cross a bear no you absolutely could have nothing happen right you could cross a bear nothing

06:25:15.560 happens but you could also cross a man nothing happens you have a higher chance of having nothing

06:25:20.360 happen yeah passing the man than the bear yeah i agree with that but we're being delusional oh god

06:25:25.800 in my experience like uh let would you rather walk up to a random bear and pat it on the head or walk

06:25:33.080 up to a random man and pat him she's gonna say the bear because she's the bear no i'm not a bear

06:25:38.200 cuddler i'm not the crazy dude that lived with bears in the woods but which of the two would you

06:25:41.960 rather do obviously the guy okay you so you'd walk up to choose up to walk and make a connection

06:25:47.960 and interact with it yes why would i walk past a bear and try and go ahead it tap tap tap it's a

06:25:53.640 wild bear why would you walk up and tap tap tap it i don't know maybe walking past something is

06:26:00.520 different than going up and forcing an interaction with it ryan you gotta get smarter people on these

06:26:05.560 podcasts i'm not stupid because i have a different opinion than you it's hurting okay yeah okay next

06:26:13.800 question brian well a couple clarifying a couple clarifying things here really quick on the bear

06:26:19.960 thing uh so i understand when women respond answer this they're typically thinking okay it's about essay

06:26:27.480 that's what it boils down to uh can you tell me then what do you think like we're talking about a

06:26:33.880 random man here so what percentage of the adult male population do you think in this circumstance

06:26:40.200 where let's say this situation is this you're you're hitting a button and this button you're in the

06:26:45.800 forest you instantly spawn into the forest and you can instantly spawn in a random man or you instantly

06:26:52.440 spawn in a random bear what percentage of adult men do you think would essay you in the circumstance

06:27:00.360 i mean obviously they're not all just going to be like rapists just okay just say track

06:27:06.760 it's okay i think we might actually chat we might actually just for a month just try to like

06:27:14.600 say whatever to all the fucking lame-ass youtube stuff just doesn't matter it might not matter so

06:27:20.600 we might just be like you know what let's just whatever um so maybe next episode next episode i might

06:27:25.880 just be like it's a free-for-all fuck it whatever um so yes i yeah sure what's the percentage though

06:27:32.840 i don't know 10 well yeah 10 it doesn't have to be precise 10 20 30 40 50 i mean probably closer to

06:27:41.080 the mic less than 20 maybe less than 20 30 30 30 okay now what percentage of the bears that you pass do

06:27:50.360 you think is going to attack you i mean i don't know zero so i'm not or what what do you think

06:28:00.600 what percentage of men google it it's literally up there you tell me it's 0.002 are going to commit

06:28:07.720 a violent crime in their life i have thank you my caucasian as he raises a glass to his caucasian

06:28:15.160 basically when i think about the question i think about the way people answer it anyways the way that

06:28:21.320 i answer it is a lot of the times i mean i don't know i guess everyone's like scared shitless of

06:28:28.840 bears most of the time you don't even know they're there but when i think about it it's kind of like

06:28:34.200 the thought of the possibility and like you said yes i guess it's fear-mongering it could be whatever

06:28:39.560 the possibility of being raped versus the possibility of nothing versus the possibility of like nothing versus

06:28:44.520 rape or like nothing versus death i say please oh yeah sorry sorry um nobody said would you rather

06:28:51.160 be killed by a bear raped by a man so this is disingenuous oh sorry essayed so it's just a

06:28:56.680 disingenuous argument to avoid saying my argument is based off of a logical fallacy we could just say

06:29:04.280 what it is that's fine

06:29:05.240 oh girl yeah i was like you lost me honestly i was like i was still gonna continue and then she

06:29:17.880 started talking i just i feel like you have a lot of opinions for somebody who has experience with

06:29:21.960 only 11 men versus the women who have experience with a lot of men that doesn't mean that doesn't

06:29:26.840 make that mean anything wait what does that mean okay so just so you're saying i don't have

06:29:31.240 experiences with men no she's saying i think that no right no that's what you're saying it was

06:29:36.200 enough to have an opinion on this no no no wait brian i i grew up on the streets okay the mean streets of

06:29:45.160 canada the mean streets of canada is from the why are you even here giving your opinion when you're

06:29:51.080 not even a u.s citizen what the hell because what what kind of like nationalism is that because

06:29:56.920 no like we're not going to canada and tell your opinion mental gymnastics you're digging yourself

06:30:01.480 into a deeper hole right now you said i know and she she keeps just feeding into no ma'am you said

06:30:08.200 i've taken more dicks than you so i have more experience with men i'm telling you i not only grew

06:30:14.680 up in social services but i grew up on the streets and where i'm from if you're a woman on the streets

06:30:20.360 you either man the up or you get pimped out i chose not to get pimped out so i have plenty of

06:30:25.880 experience with men i have been sexually assaulted i've actually been sexually assaulted twice by women

06:30:31.160 and i was molested by my older brother as a child so don't think for a second that i'm coming here with

06:30:37.160 some naivety to men because i have plenty of experiences with negative men does that mean that i'm

06:30:43.400 going to look at those men and say brian's going to do the same thing this gentleman over here is

06:30:48.200 going to do the same thing 90 of the population is going to do that no because i'd be doing myself

06:30:53.480 a disservice and as women we should not be living in this constant fear where we think that men are

06:30:59.320 just going to come like rape us and we should be living in the forest with bears it's a disservice

06:31:05.480 nobody said we wanted to live in the forest with bears paraphrasing i have plenty of experience and

06:31:12.600 whether i'm american or not it doesn't matter i'm right above you guys this isn't romania versus the

06:31:17.800 usa give me a fucking break i don't think it should be a fight like give me a break i don't think it

06:31:22.840 should be a fight of improvement i say more to have a more bears in canada square up the second

06:31:29.960 they see you in the rocky mountains like we got some i guess i think that is a little bit of mental

06:31:36.200 gymnastics to say you rather take an encounter with a bear over over a man just a little bit

06:31:40.920 like it's a bit of a stretch it's not to say all men are going to do that it's that we don't know who

06:31:45.640 we're going to have that encounter with so we don't want to take that risk but you know when you're

06:31:49.720 doing that you're you're implying that it's a high percentage of men that might do that to you

06:31:55.160 you're implying that there's a good percentage of men it is whereas it's actually a very small

06:32:00.040 it's the number one reason for unaliving pregnant women is their partner no that doesn't mean they

06:32:05.720 were that is a statistic but i'm saying like what is the percentage give us the percentage i don't

06:32:10.200 have my phone look i'm not asking for like if you're wrong it's okay what do you just generally

06:32:18.120 think of what percentage the the likelihood of just you plop the average random man sorry not

06:32:25.400 average you plop a random man adult man in the forest what is the percentage of these men that

06:32:31.640 you think are going to take this opportunity to essay a woman i'd have to deduct it from the

06:32:37.720 statistics of women who are being essayed or harassed or whatever which it's one in two women for

06:32:43.480 harassment and it's one in three for assault what you know what's weird though you know what's

06:32:47.880 strange is that they collapse all these uh lesser forms of harassment under this sort of umbrella term

06:32:58.520 of essay for example i think it'd be unfair to collapse like full-on violent stranger grape

06:33:07.080 and like put that under an umbrella term of essay and that includes like cat calling or street

06:33:12.840 harassment these are bad things these are bad things cat calling bad etc but it's like kind of

06:33:19.240 disingenuous when it's like one in two women have been raped or one time a guy made eye contact with

06:33:26.200 them but like if it was like oh if you'd rather be in the woods with a bear or brian i'm gonna choose

06:33:32.440 brian okay so obviously no choose the bear brian's very scary you're saying women would pick the bear

06:33:38.920 because men most often commit violent crimes which is true okay so if brian were to sit here and say

06:33:46.040 women are the number one killers of their children in america every year they are the most to abuse

06:33:52.360 their children and the most to kill them and then brian were to say who would you rather leave your child

06:33:57.320 with a woman or a cougar oh that's a good one are you gonna sit there and be like oh it's the cougar because

06:34:03.320 no you're gonna say give it to the woman 97 of all perpetrators of child sexual abuse is men

06:34:10.680 that is unequivocally false and i actually that's not go look it up it's literally on the national

06:34:16.120 coalition against domestic violence but you're from canada so you wouldn't know

06:34:19.480 specifically for sexual abuse 97 can you look that up can you fact check that i think she said

06:34:25.560 specific to sexual abuse yeah abuse in general though it's perpetrated by more women your mental

06:34:32.200 gymnastics i'm saying abuse and murder can we stick on that yeah and my little sister works for social

06:34:38.200 services now mental gymnastics great i literally has had every single case has been cougar or a woman

06:34:45.240 i don't even have a kid i don't think i should speak on it since i don't have a child there you go

06:34:48.920 see what i mean but you said that you're a mother so that you can speak on things with a mother

06:34:54.200 and i was also extremely abused by my mother horrifically like i was locked in a room that's

06:34:59.640 what's for a long time oh yeah you think i have like some issues with women because no it's called

06:35:04.680 having a brain it's called being educated fly to america and tell us how we should why doesn't it

06:35:09.400 i don't know you were going to get on the conversation her being from canada because

06:35:15.240 it's mental gymnastics well she doesn't have it because this is about dating lifestyle in america

06:35:20.600 not canada it's dating they're not even a fifth of our population it's modern dating it's not american

06:35:25.880 dating it's modern dating we're not talking about dating we were talking about whether or not

06:35:29.960 that's what this podcast is about it's literally about dating lifestyle and literally earlier you

06:35:35.240 said you're not even a u.s citizen why do you get an opinion in america about our dating lifestyle

06:35:41.400 it's not about american dating it's dating am i allowed to have an opinion even though i'm british

06:35:46.760 that's absolutely that's what you're saying though i don't understand this complaint about her being

06:35:51.080 canadian like yeah but notice notice how she completely avoided answering my question on whether or

06:35:55.880 not she would leave her child alone with a cougar or a woman i don't have a child so but which would

06:36:00.520 you don't think that my opinion is going to be valid either way it's a hypothetical okay so yeah

06:36:05.480 but none of our hypotheticals have worked for her so it's a double standard yeah we can we can just

06:36:10.600 all agree no children left in the babysitting company of cougars chloe chloe is right next question

06:36:17.880 this statistic so women are much more likely to commit infanticide so women are more likely to kill

06:36:23.880 their born children at an alarmingly high rate and if you want to talk about abortion talking about

06:36:28.440 abort yeah then no he's not he's talking about he's talking about born children yeah we're talking

06:36:35.400 women are much more likely to kill them yes when i'm talking about infanticide i'm not bolstering

06:36:40.920 the statistics by including abortions i'm speaking specifically about born already born uh like

06:36:47.640 out of the womb children okay so you can't answer whether or not a child would be safer with a woman or a

06:36:52.520 cougar because you don't have the specific child to look at like is there is there a

06:36:57.240 grading system you're asking me something that i don't have the information about right now

06:37:03.000 you didn't have the information about to know that a baby should not be left with a cougar

06:37:07.560 why are you being weird wait we're not because she doesn't want me to be right and i'm used to it

06:37:13.000 it's okay but we're not asking you to give us don't want to agree with her we're not asking you to

06:37:18.440 give us a super specific uh breakdown with statistics we're not asking you for a dissertation

06:37:25.160 just your gut just your gut instinct on this oh so we could just talk about anything and

06:37:31.000 no he's specifically asking you if you would leave your baby with a woman or a cougar but i don't

06:37:36.600 have a child it doesn't matter for that what if it was like okay but you didn't answer your body

06:37:41.400 count and you don't have to answer anything you don't want the deflection deflection i know i'm

06:37:46.920 i'm giving them the taste of their own medicine if i gave you that is so different how does it

06:37:52.920 fucking feel all right no you're just being mean you're not making me and she has not been mean

06:37:58.920 i think we haven't heard enough from our friend big booty

06:38:02.120 you're not gonna snuggle with the bear at night

06:38:32.120 i don't know it's gonna eat you like that scene with robert uh what's his name leonardo

06:38:37.320 he's saying closer to the mic no okay anyway she's taking deflection tips from her friend

06:38:42.120 christopher i think that many women choose the bear because it's an emotional response not a logical

06:38:46.760 one thank you i think that many women way more often react more emotionally to things rather than

06:38:52.680 react logically from christopher thank you man he follows this up by saying by the way great beard

06:38:58.760 christopher i think that many women feel like they might be in more danger with a man

06:39:03.160 even though they actually might not be even in the worst case scenario it would be far easier

06:39:07.880 to escape from a bad man than a hungry bear choosing the man seems like common sense from christopher

06:39:15.320 when has a bear ever protected a woman whereas like i can think to a few cases where a man has protected me

06:39:21.000 um yeah in reference to that comment the and the the whole lady crashing out um i feel like that

06:39:29.640 is what might have happened is that she reacted emotionally and then immediately put herself into a panic

06:39:35.720 state in which she you know couldn't get out of i think that's something that women do often uh nick pull

06:39:42.040 up the discord please all right guys we have some things we have to react to

06:39:45.480 uh did you get mine in there did you get mine which one um did you send something no let me just

06:39:55.080 show you oh yeah uh so wait where what also the topic is skewed from vermilion he says women pass

06:40:03.800 hundreds of men hiking but people rarely encounter bears if they passed hundreds of bears the reality

06:40:09.480 would be far different hundreds of men pose more of a risk to women but hundreds of bears would result

06:40:14.360 in a lot more incidents you said i don't want to be stuck in the forest with all that estrogen

06:40:19.560 i know buddy i tried to tell him uh so uh scroll up nick we're gonna react to a couple memes here

06:40:26.360 uh okay click on the blue one there blue one we don't trust men so we choose bears so you understand

06:40:33.480 why i don't want a man in the bathroom with my daughter okay damn next one we're gonna play this

06:40:40.840 video here go full screen with it i don't it doesn't need to be video tab all right so this is

06:40:48.040 how tall bears be is that a brown bear grizzly bear i'm not sure yeah i think it's a grizzly skip it

06:40:53.800 forward so we can see this oh is it gonna that might be a brown bear oh yeah yeah oh here we go all

06:41:01.240 around and that's a grizzly yeah really bro grizzly's a giant one that's like she twice her height

06:41:06.280 that guy's from canada if you got marshmallows you'll be fine that's great all right x out of

06:41:12.840 that uh x out of that then the next one here we have uh kyle not kyle wow uh okay there it is

06:41:22.280 they pick the bear over kyle okay x out of that whoa and then this one's crazy full screen it

06:41:29.800 full screen quick we're not gonna see someone get mauled are we oh brian brian i don't want to

06:41:35.160 she's not dead it had a muzzle on she's fine uh x out of that x how that i'm just walking around

06:41:42.680 next there's one more i think right yeah yeah pull that one up

06:41:46.760 just saying damn that's huge son big guys you don't you don't want to watch what actually

06:41:57.400 happens but then you'll sit here and fan like it what's the word infantilize like a bear like you're

06:42:03.800 gonna make it seem like cute and stuff but you can't even look at like what actually happens if

06:42:08.440 you sit in a room with a bear i do not even if you've trained that bear your entire life

06:42:12.520 right wait what like that bear will we didn't duck it it has happened so many times i mean think

06:42:17.960 about like the the tiger king right and and the the the lady that he might have with a lion but you

06:42:25.560 know what i mean like like they're talking about the tiger did i miss something oh i don't think

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06:44:22.920 thanks for your time you're entitled to your playing final question on this bear thing though

06:44:28.200 oh god final question on the bear

06:44:33.080 if we change this question to be instead of a man we just say black person

06:44:41.800 black person or bear

06:44:42.760 no i say this all the time if you pick the bear over a black person do you become a racist i was

06:44:50.520 just thinking if a bunch of men were sitting here debating whether or not they felt you know safe

06:44:55.480 around women and we're generalizing all women we'd have a shit fit and we'd be like these men are so

06:45:00.440 underdeveloped but because we can just sit there and like it's crazy if you change most of the

06:45:06.440 shit that we say about men if you change the word men to any different race ethnicity it's no longer

06:45:13.240 acceptable but because it's men we're just empowered empowered queens it is true

06:45:20.760 well sexism sexism towards men is uh is tolerated i know it's encouraged they did this question and

06:45:28.840 it's always sunny in philadelphia where they wanted to eat somebody but they couldn't pick they were like

06:45:34.680 are we racist if we don't eat the black guy

06:45:40.120 but do you think do you think that they would be racist if somebody said i want i'll pick the

06:45:46.280 bear over a black person yeah because black people commit more crimes in america

06:45:52.200 yeah you don't like that what are you putting in a retainer yeah

06:45:55.480 not the invisalign thing not the invisalign my bad they're not dentures it's okay you guys just

06:46:03.480 gonna sit there silently or you want to choose a black guy i would choose a black guy okay but

06:46:09.640 the question is if somebody picked the bear over the black person would you deem this to be like a

06:46:16.360 racist position to hold i don't know but i don't think that's even fair for me to answer

06:46:23.240 why wouldn't she does that why would it because you might do things that she would consider racist

06:46:28.680 but then like you don't consider racist just because you're a white guy so like you don't

06:46:33.400 you're not aware of that in the dictionary your name would be right she doesn't answer the question

06:46:37.400 but no it's mental because your questions are not even they're very oh my god they don't even apply

06:46:43.960 they do what is your opinion i'm talking to brian i'm i'm simply asking you it's

06:46:52.760 i don't understand why you can't answer the question because i wouldn't view it that way

06:46:57.560 but like you wouldn't you depending on who you ask you're gonna have a different opinion you would

06:47:02.600 not think it's racist

06:47:03.560 no i think that's a i think that's a preference

06:47:09.640 why because we just said we'd rather a bear than a man

06:47:14.680 i guess you're logically because you're still saying it's logically consistent oh you're not

06:47:18.200 saying a black man but i don't know what you're trying to get at consistent with my question you

06:47:22.840 wanted to be like well my sister works for social services so why i'm just so confused what does that

06:47:27.880 have to do with this conversation that's everything to do with it girl i can't

06:47:31.800 girl girl see all i heard was oh i'm sorry go ahead with the so the question is if if the question

06:47:40.280 changes uh black person versus bear do you think it would be racist for somebody to pick the bear

06:47:46.200 over a black person i mean technically you said person which means it doesn't have to be a man

06:47:53.560 yeah which is no but they're they're not picking the black person even though there's a chance it

06:48:01.880 could be a woman you said person i'd pick the black person yeah i'm not asking you what you would pick

06:48:07.160 i'm saying if somebody picked the bear over the black person person would it then be racist then

06:48:16.360 technically you could classify it as racist no is it technically racist or is it racist it would

06:48:22.600 could technically wait why are you doing that voice um what about you you pick the bear do you think

06:48:28.680 it would be racist for somebody to pick a bear over a black person get to the mic please um i'm just not

06:48:38.600 gonna comment on that one why why not i'm okay i just answer the questions guys come on this is

06:48:46.360 getting so tiring it does come on actually you not answering it does point more towards you being

06:48:53.160 a racist if you can't say racism bad you might be a racist i'm just like i just don't can you speak

06:49:00.600 into the mic please even if you're pissed off by the question speak into the microphone okay i just

06:49:05.320 don't want to answer the question i feel like it's kind of maybe a little racist but i i don't even

06:49:09.560 understand like is racism bad can you answer that question but there's racism not just in the black

06:49:15.960 community i feel there's a lot of racism in every community but okay bad bad or racism good bad okay

06:49:24.760 are we really like shying away from saying racism is bad just so i've like just so we don't

06:49:31.000 what are men that bad that we don't want to the reason all of them didn't want to answer the

06:49:38.040 question is because the entailment then of the position is if it would be racist to pick the bear

06:49:44.040 over the black person then their position is sexist and i assume they're against isms they're against

06:49:50.360 sexism so you guys are sexists it's okay you guys are sexist against men yeah you're bigots

06:49:56.520 i mean you're bigots round of applause for the bigots at the table i think you know never mind i

06:50:02.760 don't know this conversation this question about the man bear thing is just like circling the drain

06:50:06.840 i was gonna say one more thing but go ahead say one more thing i just think that immediately like

06:50:11.160 your mind jumps to when i think of it anyways when the whole man versus bear subject came up and

06:50:15.880 became a really big thing is like i know everybody's gonna hate me for this but like just walking past

06:50:21.560 something automatically selfishly you're gonna think of your own experience and what

06:50:27.960 reaction you are going to have to walking past a man versus a bear when you walk past a man day to

06:50:35.240 day are you like we're not talking about day today we're not talking in the middle of the city we're

06:50:39.560 not talking about all these places we're talking about alone in the woods right now i got beat up and

06:50:43.800 this is a true story i got my shit rocked by a black chick when i was in high school i deserved it i was

06:50:49.480 being a bitch i deserved it okay but now racist because no no girl no no i was just being a

06:50:55.960 bitch so now if our experiences are a good excuse is it okay for me to be like well i prefer not to

06:51:03.240 be around black people i don't prefer not to be around men no that's the same thing you just picked

06:51:08.920 the bear meaning you're preferring not to be around men i didn't say i prefer not to be around men

06:51:14.600 oh my god i need a minute this is take one please my brain is hurting i guess the idea here is because

06:51:21.960 a lot of you will cite to well you know there's certain statistics and you'll cite to well your

06:51:28.200 own experiences which are valid like you i'm not doubting that you've had negative experiences with men

06:51:34.200 but then when it becomes this sort of creating a social stigma and saying men are are this and

06:51:44.760 then it opens the door for your to remain logically consistent if you're able to say because of my past

06:51:52.760 experiences i have justification for my generalized negative attitudes towards men in order to remain

06:52:00.840 consistent if somebody has had a negative experience with a black person that would then be justification

06:52:07.400 and pretext for racism towards black people but me saying that i would rather walk past a bear in the

06:52:15.800 woods doesn't change the way i am acting towards or interacting with men in my day-to-day life i don't

06:52:24.920 flinch every time i walk past a man i would smile and wave if i walked past a random guy in the woods

06:52:29.640 like right but having a oh go ahead kate well then why would you be worried and not pick the random

06:52:34.680 man if there if it's most likely in the back of my mind i'm automatically going to be thinking okay

06:52:41.320 did he keep going down the trail is he far enough away is he going to turn around is he going to start

06:52:45.480 following me is that a trauma response sure earlier see i don't think about wildlife i'm sorry but

06:52:51.960 earlier weren't both you guys saying not all women don't generalize all women and what you're doing

06:52:57.560 right now is generalizing that all men have the the uh what is it the ability to cause harm to

06:53:07.080 all women i mean that's all anyone can cause harm to any other person what do you mean but it's all

06:53:14.120 men a bad's gonna rip you apart i think yeah to appeal to an earlier chatter i think what another

06:53:21.960 chat said especially giving your like context and like your background obviously we don't know

06:53:26.040 everybody's trauma here so that's something that you emotionally kind of viscerally align with

06:53:30.680 immediately when you come into such a drastic but blatantly logical question like this obviously you

06:53:36.760 really should not be around bears i think that's like the logical conclusion i'm like i i just answered

06:53:44.520 the question but i just want to be clear so for you three you three would you be okay with somebody

06:53:53.320 who's had a bad experience with a black person having prejudgments

06:53:58.920 i think we're back what nothing was it no no nothing happened we're good yes good okay uh

06:54:13.640 can somebody jump start where where i was black people racism uh the oh okay i got it i got it i got it

06:54:20.840 so somebody has a bad experience with a black person they then use that as justification for

06:54:29.160 generalized racism towards black people you guys it's i believe it's an entailment of your logical

06:54:35.880 position that you would be okay with that racism so long as this individual had a prior bad experience

06:54:43.960 with a black person i mean i wouldn't be why can you guys not give me the fucking gen z stare and

06:54:51.960 fucking answer the fucking question holy it's not that it's a matter of you're damned if you do damned

06:54:56.920 if you don't because at the same time what you're describing like that's a trauma response like that's not

06:55:03.480 even okay but so is it racist is it bad okay but for instance just because i've had trauma involving

06:55:13.880 men doesn't mean that i'm now like lesbian and only want to be with women i'm still seeing men i still

06:55:19.720 love men i still love pleasing men like i'm still going to feel that way towards it however am i going

06:55:26.440 to have that trauma response because i have had bad experiences yes but i don't have to treat all men like

06:55:32.680 that because i know it's not all men but i am saying men have that ability and men are biologically stronger

06:55:38.280 than us especially in their upper body that's just a fact so no we don't

06:55:44.920 your question doesn't apply to me trauma i was responding to him not you i see people use trauma

06:55:50.600 a lot and trauma although it's not our fault it becomes our responsibility you have to heal from

06:55:56.760 your trauma it is it's not our fault and it sucks but it becomes our responsibility and if we don't take

06:56:03.400 responsibility for our trauma again not our fault but it's our lives if we don't we're going to go

06:56:09.800 around this world hurting people dehumanizing them devaluing them stigmatizing them and fear-mongering

06:56:16.760 them whether you're black whether you're brown whether you're a gypsy whether you're white whether

06:56:21.720 a man a woman whatever so you can't use like oh well it's kind of okay because of trauma no it's

06:56:27.880 it's the same thing as i have bipolar one if i decide to just stop taking my medication i will

06:56:33.800 become a terrible person who just doesn't even think properly about how i'm treating other people

06:56:40.840 it is my duty to take my medication to make sure that i don't affect other people in that bad way

06:56:46.440 right same with bpd bpd comes from trauma and a lot of people think it's manic pixie dream girl

06:56:52.280 shit and it's very annoying aesthetic yeah a lot of the girls in the industry have i think i wrote

06:56:57.480 that on one of the notes i said uh talk about it on a later date but bpd in the sex industry and why

06:57:04.360 it's so prevalent sure um i guess finishing off on this if we say that it's understandable or even

06:57:11.800 acceptable for women to harbor resentment or express prejudice against men because of negative past

06:57:19.240 experiences by that same logic we'd have to accept that someone who had a bad experience with a black

06:57:26.440 person is justified in being racist and most of us here would rightly reject that but when it comes

06:57:34.360 to these prejudices or bigotry towards men there seems to be quite a bit of hand waving when it comes to

06:57:41.320 that food for thought thanks uh okay all right we have some chats coming through here

06:57:51.960 oh is it gonna come in thank you chau sorry for the delay on this xd donated 69 dollars appreciate

06:57:58.200 it man i typically roast the sex workers because well they deserve it but tonight i found the covered

06:58:04.600 feminists on the left side of the table far more obnoxious andrew would have ripped them to shreds

06:58:10.920 nobody gives a fuck about andrew tate bro i think he's talking about andrew wilson they're talking

06:58:15.800 about andrew wilson oh okay well he thinks we're thinking he might i love that griddles donated 69

06:58:25.160 dollars thank you one the only one thank you is talking about is that sweet lady brain and we all

06:58:30.200 know it it's you brian it's you yeah i don't know thank you mcriddles appreciate it man uh we have joe

06:58:41.320 finley coming in here i think he disagrees with me on this is it gonna play oh my god sorry guys one

06:58:48.920 second there it is joe finley donated 69 dollars it's not racist but it's still stupid delusion is

06:58:59.560 feminism has more pull than reality stop the walking by in a room for an hour any man or any bear bc

06:59:07.160 does matter only for bonding because does only matter all right joe finley appreciate it brother thank

06:59:14.840 you thank you it's not racist and be racist to pick the bear i think over anyways uh okay moving

06:59:22.040 off of the bear though let's see we have hmm anybody bite on any of the trans stuff or whatever uh women

06:59:30.120 are just as physically strong as oh you x that out i guess uh okay then we have taylor you agree with

06:59:40.120 the following statement people of color can't be racist towards white people why is that

06:59:44.840 i don't think i meant to circle that one i didn't mean to circle that one sorry i think

06:59:49.960 or did you mean to circle it but now you're like am i about to get btfo'd

06:59:56.360 okay so you think black people can be racist towards white people oh i think everybody can

07:00:00.360 be sorry i think everybody can be racist but i don't think it's okay okay so black people can

07:00:06.440 be racist towards white people yeah okay no all right nothing to push back on then uh 18 the gender

07:00:14.280 there's a gender wage gap that's lindsey lee uh anybody else agree with that well i need to do

07:00:22.360 that one um no okay gender wage gap is kind of boring so we're just gonna skip over that but doesn't

07:00:28.840 exist sorry oh no i meant women make more in the industry than men do oh okay you wanted to talk about

07:00:34.600 that uh crystal number 19 women are the primary victims of war not men you agree with that statement

07:00:41.880 why is that crystal women are the primary victims of war not men yes you agreed with that statement

07:00:47.720 women agree with that yeah because when you rape and pillage usually can you when you guys guys stop

07:00:52.520 stop stop stop stop stop stop great great no it's not even that speak into the microphones please we've

07:00:58.120 repeated it like dozens of times throughout the show just get up on the microphone get this close to the

07:01:02.680 mic go ahead i do agree with that statement because men have the ability to take over large swaths of

07:01:09.880 areas through force and sometimes that means taking over certain women obviously when they grape and

07:01:16.120 pillage with it which is what they've done historically so women do and are victimized during times of war

07:01:23.320 i think he was more meaning like the women at home versus the men at war am i correct in that no i'm

07:01:29.160 prepared to make general all women versus all men in general all all the all the paradigms of how

07:01:37.960 people suffer in war it's all on the table yeah i agree with that statement yeah who are the majority

07:01:44.440 of the infantry and the first to get drafted uh i'm from the south and we had like the confederacy and

07:01:50.440 all that do you know how many men died in the the confederate i mean yeah that's the ultimate form

07:01:55.320 of victimization well how about this let's but also like if you're grape then that's also world

07:01:59.640 world war one who i can't see your point that happens world war one who were the primary victims

07:02:06.520 of war men or women men i'm asking her hold on who died more often men who are the primary victims of

07:02:13.240 war who died more often men who are the primary victims of war your position look your position is

07:02:18.840 women are the primary victims of war i'm not asking you who died more because you're right it is men

07:02:23.560 but your analysis seems to point to and there are probably women who are great during world war one

07:02:28.680 so the question is who's the primary victims of war for world war one people who lost their lives

07:02:37.000 okay so is that more men lost their wives lost their lives than women also plenty of men were raped

07:02:44.520 when they were sorry great pardon me brian i'm getting used to it it's all right um especially like

07:02:49.480 prisoners of war it was extremely common the statistic was very alarming they did a study on

07:02:54.440 it after world war ii women have been prisoners of war ii and in that instance they're grave they're

07:03:00.600 they're taking advantage of so they are in turn a victim no can i get a straight answer though world

07:03:05.320 war one men or women who are the primary victims of the world war one people who lost their lives

07:03:11.720 men or women which is who which is both sexes died during world war one there was vastly more

07:03:17.640 men but i'm asking the answer can be one of two men or women if it's a binary and you're setting it

07:03:23.880 up that way then yes the question is men men or women those are the two possible answers men or

07:03:29.880 women who are the primary victims men died more in world war one man can we just be authentic that's

07:03:35.480 literally the answer come on that's the answer so men men is your answer even accounting for the

07:03:40.840 fact that women were essayed during world war one okay they're in still in the victim category are

07:03:47.480 they not well they're in the victim category but i'm asking primary primary okay primary primary victim

07:03:56.440 men or women men okay all right there we go what about world war ii it would be the same answer okay

07:04:04.280 vietnam war okay but so i'm a little confused here so world war one world war two these were the

07:04:12.120 biggest military conflicts ever you said well women get raped during wartime yes this is true this

07:04:17.720 definitely happens but so how do you reconcile your original answer which is women are the primary

07:04:23.960 victims of war not men but now you're saying when i'm breaking it down to specific wars the biggest wars

07:04:30.360 that we've ever had now you're changing it to men are you just changing your answer in general or

07:04:36.360 i think people who lost their lives across the spectrum of wartime are all victims and in some

07:04:40.680 instances that may be more men than women in all you've provided those examples so well in every single

07:04:46.680 war ever in human history men have always outnumbered uh when it comes to deaths

07:04:53.000 okay also the jobs were different um so men are the primary victims of war or still women

07:05:03.080 in that context in men but now that we've had a broader discussion then well you're saying they've

07:05:08.360 lost their lives over the swath of history so it's obviously more men who have been a victim

07:05:15.320 in a broader context i mean she just needed specifics guys wait one question on this

07:05:21.720 i'm kind of curious uh would you maybe i'll just open up to the whole panel would you

07:05:30.520 kill 10 men to prevent one woman from being said no no no no that sounds terrible damn brian

07:05:41.400 like so you would let a woman get it's it's just the trolley question like

07:05:45.320 anybody i don't i wouldn't i don't think murder is acceptable like well they're both they're both

07:05:53.480 terrible awful sa isn't death though like that's totally like above the spectrum but you can heal

07:05:58.520 from sa but you can't heal from death so like this is true i'd kill hitler to prevent world war ii

07:06:05.160 would you kill baby hitler yes i would oh my god yeah i mean hey as long as we know we know

07:06:10.040 lindsey lindsey lee number 17 you say men are more privileged in society than women mckenna you

07:06:20.360 agree men are more privileged in society than women taylor you also agree men are more privileged

07:06:26.440 in society than women why is that did i agree on that one you did i remember i was like i don't think

07:06:35.240 i think i meant to cross that one out too jesus guys

07:06:42.280 so to the people that i named you know how i said your guys's names so i'm hoping that was my

07:06:50.120 so i guess that was my well because i'm trying to think because i i guess i don't really agree with

07:06:56.600 that so i don't know why i circled it um okay so you think they're men and women are equal and

07:07:01.080 privilege you think women are more privileged i think it depends on yeah what part of life

07:07:05.800 we're talking about there are some areas where men may have more privilege there are some areas

07:07:10.600 where women may have more privilege um i mean everybody's gonna get mad at me about this again

07:07:16.600 but like simple things like not having to like be worried or as worried like when you're walking

07:07:21.880 alone at night things like men take up the majority to be um victims of violent crimes

07:07:27.400 especially random ones women take up the majority to be attacked by people they know men take up

07:07:32.120 overwhelmingly the amount to be attacked by strangers most likely are the ones who are

07:07:36.440 not going to report or talk to it about it to anybody because they'll see like there's a stigma

07:07:42.040 against it even if you were a s-aid or or something happened it yeah it they'll call you gay

07:07:48.200 they'll call they'll call you all the different names in the book because you're a man and you

07:07:51.880 should have been stronger enough to to fight it off yeah i think men are actually three to four if

07:07:56.600 i you can fact check me on this please do actually but i think men are two to three or three to four

07:08:01.560 times more likely to be um attacked out late at night than women are men are also pretty

07:08:07.000 fucked up statistically higher for random violence on the streets yeah that's what i'm talking about as

07:08:13.400 well yeah like not not just like assaying and stuff but like robberies just just randomly coming

07:08:19.480 up to somebody at a bar or something and and unaliving them um i'd obviously it happens to women as

07:08:27.000 well but like if you think about it it's just disproportionately not comparable yeah what all i was

07:08:32.760 gonna say was that was like the only trickle of anything i could think of in my mind which is

07:08:37.080 why i didn't mean to agree with it i think it it can be equal we have losses you know men have

07:08:43.400 good things we have bad things there are good things about being a man good things about being

07:08:46.600 a woman terrible things about being a man terrible things about being a woman when it comes to society

07:08:50.200 and privilege so uh taylor do you want to weigh in on this why are men or how are men more privileged

07:08:56.360 in society than women uh no i think kind of kind of covered it are you just not gonna participate or

07:09:02.840 she's checked out um no i'm just i kind of agree with her so and okay all right in general women

07:09:12.280 do have more privilege in society especially now i mean prostitution is the oldest um job in the book

07:09:18.360 so now you can even monetize that even more now you can do it and demand to be respected that's

07:09:23.560 that's a little bit of a privilege but i mean it's like well you don't have to be a prisoner you can

07:09:28.120 make that choice you can make that choice now even in 2025 like that's a privilege that you can even

07:09:32.680 go and you know do that when i was a teenager we used to look out for each other because one of our

07:09:36.680 biggest fears and one of the worst things that could happen was like being sexually exploited or

07:09:40.280 ending up being an escort a prostitute being pimped out being just exploited and now it's like now

07:09:46.360 women aspire to be that but i when i was younger we thought we were so cool to go like 14 15 to go

07:09:53.240 hang out with 25 year old college students because they invited us to a party nope same but yeah like

07:09:59.080 driving in the back of the car you know smoking they like me because i'm a vodka in the water bottle

07:10:05.000 back and you're like i was groomed i was groomed literally lindsey lee men are more privileged in

07:10:13.560 society than women why is that

07:10:18.920 i'm more so agree with kenna where like women do have privileges depending on what the career is what

07:10:25.880 part of society we're talking about but as far as when you look at from like a white collar standpoint

07:10:31.080 most of those positions are held by men most positions of power are held by men and they're

07:10:37.000 trying to change that gap but at the same time like you could argue that it's privilege and men

07:10:44.440 argue about pretty privilege all the time and i totally agree with them so i think i think it goes

07:10:49.400 both ways we both have our privileges but as far as like from the white collar standpoint which is what

07:10:54.120 most men are going to look at men definitely have that under wraps which is what what are the privileges

07:10:59.240 well i just told you like they're more likely to be selected or put into positions of power or

07:11:06.360 authority or higher positions in companies and you know women make up more than half the population but

07:11:12.920 the gap in those positions is what factual basis do you have to make that claim but this is why none of

07:11:19.320 us want to engage because there's two who are trying to take over the show from you and it just makes us

07:11:23.720 not want to interact at all but this is a debate you said debates come with like statistics i'm she's

07:11:29.240 allowed to ask you what your source is this is a panel that's all having a discussion and you guys

07:11:33.480 have done nothing but attacking all of the women of our industry oh you definitely are both of you

07:11:39.560 definitely are i am not attached to you i think she's in the industry and she came from and i came

07:11:44.360 still very annoying by just not answering questions i would rather you just it's more annoying to be

07:11:50.360 interrupted so i rather not answer than be interrupted and attacked by two women who

07:11:54.920 just i would degrade rather than come up with real like arguments i am not degrading you i wish that you

07:12:01.400 had more interesting things to say and i wish that you answered questions when you ask them when you're

07:12:05.960 asked i will totally give you one because it sounds like you both need help okay people put a lot of

07:12:12.680 work and money and travel into being here i'm very excited to be here and to hear you just be like

07:12:21.000 it's so i'm happy to be here i'm happy to be here i'm not happy with the women chosen to be on this

07:12:26.600 panel who are then also who are also allowed to take over the show and have several women who say that

07:12:33.960 they don't feel like it's a fair conversation when you just interrupt something interesting i don't care

07:12:39.800 about just be assertive i'm like i'm loud totally you gotta check me my fiancee does all the time i

07:12:45.000 have a lot i know i'm assertive and then you have to walk away because you can't take it because you

07:12:47.960 don't have emotional regulation no i actually choose i actually choose to leave when the conversation no

07:12:55.080 longer involves me and it's to like take a breath so that actually is emotional intelligence if you can't

07:13:01.320 handle it then leave oh my god oh no i'm fine i just think this could be a way better conversation

07:13:05.880 without you here oh you think so i because you don't answer questions so if i wasn't here

07:13:13.240 i'm enjoying everyone here everyone's doing a great job the stars of the show

07:13:17.880 when it comes when it comes to men though being more privileged in society it depends on the type of

07:13:22.520 man if you're stephan curry then obviously you're having more privilege if you're that ai version of me

07:13:28.040 then maybe not so much that's valid so what kind of man are you worked for it is a privilege um wait

07:13:33.720 i don't know if he worked for it is a privilege i think that's that's what i was coming up uh you

07:13:38.360 with is is you're like all these blue collar men how do you know they didn't work very hard to be

07:13:43.400 there you know i wasn't talking about blue collar you literally did just white color what's annoying

07:13:49.240 jesus christ death or gray would you rather get shot blown up stabbed and then die or any version of

07:13:55.880 essay and live women are more privileged name one thing women can't do that men can

07:14:05.720 get an abortion

07:14:11.400 optically yeah i don't know i think um i think it's not a lot of people aren't going to like this

07:14:16.520 but um it's we're not at the point where men are just like who's more privileged it's actually like

07:14:21.880 uh like oppression at this point because of women took up the majority of the suicide rate the

07:14:26.920 homicide rate the homeless rate the addictions rate majority get killed by the police majority

07:14:31.720 to be victims of violent crime it would be an international crisis and we would be marching

07:14:36.360 for women's rights and women's oppression so i think it doesn't do it justice to just be like

07:14:42.840 what's the word you used underprivileged it's uh like oppression at this point yeah

07:14:47.000 moving on to the next one we have uh women do not have equal rights to men in the usa to which

07:14:55.240 taylor and lindsey or no hold on not lindsey sorry uh taylor and mckenna you both agree

07:15:03.800 women do not have equal rights to men in the usa we're going to start with taylor uh taylor can you

07:15:09.480 explain that what uh what do you mean uh can you say the question again women do not have equal rights

07:15:15.480 to men in the usa you agree with this so i guess what rights uh do men have that women don't

07:15:26.760 he said start with taylor i know i need a minute i need a minute

07:15:34.920 no no why don't you just answer the question i understand why you're so pissed all the time brian

07:15:38.680 i mean she just said she wanted a minute yeah okay in my mind where i went with it probably just

07:15:46.920 body autonomy like from a very young age even if you have something bad happen wait wait wait hold

07:15:51.400 on the quite she already like the previous cup question she already pushed it off to you

07:15:56.120 i'm asking taylor now in her own words yeah we'll wait

07:15:58.840 champagne pops oh do it now they're gonna be angry the whole time i know i'm okay you can go

07:16:09.640 first you go first i'm not allowed just go first then you're if she goes first you're just gonna say

07:16:15.000 i agree with mckenna like you did the previous times i'm just asking you said you agreed women do

07:16:21.960 not have equal rights to men in the usa i'm just asking how

07:16:33.720 i'm just gonna be silent okay but it's a podcast i know don't be silent talk like come on girl so

07:16:42.120 what right do men have you have an opinion tell us it

07:16:46.040 uh i guess i'm okay i'm okay i'll be quiet for this one yeah i was gonna say she's not

07:16:54.600 i'll set this one out wait hold on can you clarify you're you want to be quiet because you

07:17:01.880 what's the matter because why i'll just be quiet what

07:17:09.720 oh man did she but why why do you want to be quiet no i shouldn't be quiet i hope not

07:17:18.360 i don't really have any statistics or anything i don't know do you still agree with what you

07:17:22.360 answered i don't think i i don't think i agree with what i answered okay that's fair that's cool

07:17:27.080 i don't even believe it though oh i know but like i answered that like hours ago and i probably had

07:17:31.720 something in my mind and i can't there's like nothing okay you guys seem to have a lot of opinions

07:17:35.640 that you don't know if you stand by them or not hold on hold on women do not have equal rights to

07:17:41.080 men in the usa you agree with this is there anything that comes to mind as to why that is

07:17:54.760 as of

07:17:58.520 i'm literally holding my breath no it's fine no you didn't do anything it's fine i just i

07:18:04.760 don't think i don't think i agree with it now okay so then your position then is women have

07:18:10.840 equal rights to men in the united states

07:18:17.640 so bad faith okay okay if you've changed your mind the entailment of that would be

07:18:25.080 that now your position is women do have equal rights to men in the usa i'm literally sweating i can

07:18:33.240 like feel him like feel him raging beside me i don't think you like the whole chair just shaking

07:18:41.640 nothing okay i don't think okay do you do you think that women have equal rights to men in the usa

07:18:51.720 you can say you can say anything and it's not gonna at least engage in good faith just get the

07:19:02.040 off the show if you're not gonna like like it's one thing for you to if you say you've changed your

07:19:07.880 position then then the answer to this should surely be yes yes brian i agree uh women do do

07:19:14.040 have equal rights to men in the usa but now you're just playing some game

07:19:21.400 okay yeah okay is this what she does in relationships she just stonewalls and won't

07:19:27.800 actually like engage in a conversation is this what you do tired no you're literally

07:19:35.000 stonewalling like statistics i can't really i'm not asking for statistics i can't really think of

07:19:39.240 anything i'm sorry i don't know i told you i'll sit this one out if you're afraid of saying something

07:19:43.400 and have me like fact check you i'll sit it out i'm not asking you for statistics i'm not asking you

07:19:49.560 for a study i'm just your personal opinion your personal opinion i'm asking you

07:19:57.960 do women have equal rights to men in the usa

07:20:00.360 oh my god bro just get her the fuck out of here like what what is the point of this somebody else

07:20:09.560 gonna come on and like actually added something like it's such a it's it's actually such a like

07:20:14.840 disservice to all the people that put this podcast together for real well then let's let somebody else

07:20:19.800 talk who hasn't talked for a while i just can't think of anything i just can't think of anything but

07:20:25.480 okay but but i get that you're not gonna you're not you can't think of an example so is it true

07:20:30.600 that your position actually is women do not have equal rights to men in the usa to which you previously

07:20:36.680 agreed

07:20:43.480 wow do you have any of your own thoughts legally we are equal yes or no

07:20:49.480 um depends on the like scenario i guess i feel like we can be equal in some things but some things

07:21:00.600 men are don't think that we should have rights as women think that we should do you mean like

07:21:07.480 state by state it varies yeah what things do men think you shouldn't have rights for uh like abortion

07:21:14.600 that's not a right or that's true i don't know okay abortion is not a right i think i don't know

07:21:24.040 we're getting there you're talking to us that's awesome what else

07:21:30.760 women can vote that is true we all can vote i feel like i'm trying to convince my daughter to

07:21:35.880 tell me what she learned at school that day like this is the humming and hawing she gives me

07:21:39.640 she's like well huh if you if you don't want to speak just say please move on to the next person

07:21:45.400 well she tried but brian was like she's done it the whole time okay can i just get a yes or no to this

07:21:56.120 do you agree with this statement women do not have equal rights to men in the usa yes or no

07:22:01.640 i guess i don't know do you agree are you high right now hold on hold on that's my question stop

07:22:15.080 stop you guys keep fucking i'm trying to get to it but are you fucking tired forget it

07:22:20.200 women do not have equal rights to men in the usa do you agree

07:22:24.680 men and women have equal rights oh my god you're fucking retarded next fucking thing holy

07:22:36.440 shit dude holy fuck oh my god dude holy shit thank you for wasting fucking 10 minutes of our time

07:22:47.560 holy shit unbelievable bro all right

07:22:56.280 she could have just said that immediately oh actually i don't think that even though it would

07:23:00.440 have been a fucking lie god damn

07:23:05.160 claim donated 69 dollars men have to work harder even attractive men have still have to work more

07:23:12.520 than their equal counterpart men have to prove themselves constantly women just have to show up

07:23:19.480 this show is proof

07:23:24.120 playing out here spitting facts today

07:23:28.200 all right thank you clan appreciate it man um

07:23:33.000 pasty george donated 70 dollars all we have heard from chair two is feminist prattle

07:23:39.080 complaining and nonsense you can't handle the facts and valid points some of the other women are

07:23:44.920 making because you have no valid arguments that part yep no i just feel like even when taylor did

07:23:52.040 speak up just now she was immediately shot down and degraded for taking seven minutes to answer but

07:23:56.440 it's like you're literally the ones that she's not going to let you gaslight i'm not gonna let you

07:24:03.160 fucking gaslight she's either intentionally trolling or she's so obtuse that she's just refusing to

07:24:09.480 engage in good faith in the conversation i feel like it's more of a trauma response based on how

07:24:13.400 other people are acting you can't claim trauma response i said i think i know but women cannot claim

07:24:19.880 trauma response for everything in their life that is hard okay so would you we're literally having

07:24:25.880 a conversation at a table but would you both speak the same way to a man like this about it yes

07:24:30.840 i don't know if you're familiar with me but i call out everybody men women my mouth is rated e for

07:24:45.800 everybody so nobody can claim that i just like take men's side because they get the smoke that's

07:24:50.440 literally what your entire like persona online is basically your man right highlighting male issues

07:24:56.600 that doesn't mean i support men's wrongs i'm not i'm not a feminist here i can support men without

07:25:01.560 supporting their wrongs feminists is used so loosely and like you all don't even know what it actually is

07:25:06.760 defined you know what the og definition is yeah go ahead what is it

07:25:10.760 go ahead and google it no no no i'm not gonna say word for word no no no she's asking if you

07:25:17.400 know it you claim but she's using this word when okay but i clearly said beforehand i love men i respect

07:25:24.360 men you don't but i don't yeah so wait but why would i talk if i'm gonna be interrupted right what's the

07:25:30.360 point what is the point of this podcast if we're just all going to be interrupted anyway by one of the

07:25:34.760 two women or three over here so what's the definition of feminism go ahead chloe no i'm

07:25:43.240 asking you you did you pull it up on your phone while you were running away no i know it because

07:25:47.720 you pulled it up on your phone nobody's gonna interrupt you what what is it i can google it for

07:25:53.000 you no you don't know you you accused me of loosely using the term and are even trying to use like

07:26:00.280 weird little petty attacks like me like walking away to google stuff so if you're so smart what's

07:26:05.960 because i don't think anyone's emotional response as a precaution it can be just like very vaguely

07:26:12.600 you know labeled as feminism every time what does feminism mean to you wanting equal respect rights and

07:26:22.120 privilege in society and when you look at like okay let's give an example of like slavery right it no

07:26:28.360 longer exists but yet we still have sex slaves well i know but we still have sex slaves today

07:26:34.760 not in the united states they're still here that's not true at all the government this is literally a

07:26:43.480 fucking crime no it is true okay oh my god so the definition of feminism is the attempt to break

07:26:51.480 down the patriarchal systems of hierarchy that oppress both men and women so i'm very educated i know i'm

07:26:57.720 loud do you think corn is oppressive to men yeah yeah who do you think invented corn

07:27:05.240 well we said that no no no who invented like let's say who started corn hub who who invented and started

07:27:13.240 only fans a woman started only fans and a man started porn hub yeah so when you're looking at who's

07:27:19.640 benefiting or who's creating you can't say it's all women who are creating these problems and

07:27:26.120 on creating things that are oppressing men nobody said that you actually just that's what you are

07:27:30.680 saying you went off the rails and nobody ever said anything yeah i don't even know where that's coming

07:27:35.160 from i'm so confused it's hard to confuse me but it is pretty tough answering a direct direct

07:27:42.120 question but once you're giving more context it's like allowable at that point so if somebody asks

07:27:46.840 you what's a feminist and even she tried to give you another clarifier to you but there still

07:27:51.880 wasn't an answer that way does that make sense well they've given because they'll because they've

07:28:00.040 given examples about like how women can't walk to their car at night and feel like they can safely

07:28:04.840 go to their car at night and then you guys just try to argue that all men are the victims of violent

07:28:09.000 crimes as well yes i agree i agree that there are men and women who are victims of violent crimes but

07:28:15.240 men aren't constantly scared that there's going to be a woman behind them who's going to assault them

07:28:20.040 not a woman they're scared there's a man that's gonna exactly but that's not why that's the same

07:28:24.600 fear that women have it's not any different yeah but and when men are on both sides the perpetrators

07:28:30.360 are still men that's not always the case though and it doesn't make all men bad i never said it makes

07:28:36.840 all men bad so i'm saying that don't you think it'd be great if we could have a society where you know

07:28:42.840 men and women both faced equal consequences i mean we've got the whole epstein stuff going on right now

07:28:49.000 that proves how many people are involved in terrible things most of the time actually when

07:28:54.680 you're talking about consequences when you're when you're talking about consequences women generally

07:29:01.640 get lesser consequences than men also women generally get lesser so the majority of sex

07:29:08.040 slaves are they men in the world there are men this is what no what's the majority i figured out what

07:29:13.160 you do that's the point it's women and children stop both of you this is what lindsey's strategy is

07:29:20.120 when you're trying to have a substantive conversation about anything any sort of

07:29:25.080 criticisms directed towards feminism or her world view she immediately just goes to well there uh it's

07:29:31.960 called the fallacy of relative probation well uh there's uh pdf files in the world and epstein

07:29:38.920 and let's talk about grape like you always want to shift the conversation to like well there's other

07:29:45.960 bad things happening in the world so let's talk about that instead of like having a conversation

07:29:50.440 about the actual topic at hand that's your strategy for everything you always bring in every single

07:29:55.480 conversation every single conversation with you it always devolves down to essay uh sex slaves epstein

07:30:04.680 pdf files that's literally you have like some weird obsession obsession it's kind of weird because

07:30:09.880 like we could have be having a debate over pineapple on pizza and you'd be like well hold on

07:30:14.520 fucking epstein's island is like fucking you'd fucking lose your fucking mind if you're debating

07:30:20.200 well okay what do pdf files prefer it's fucking weird no i think what she does that but i think what

07:30:25.400 she also does is when you're challenged with something when you like you think you know something and

07:30:29.800 then someone challenges you like you know you're someone was talking about privilege and so someone

07:30:34.760 else responded with a statistic and you were like see like right now you're checking out you're like

07:30:39.000 when you hear something you don't like and when someone's not agreeing with you you either check

07:30:43.720 out or you have this like what are those things called rolodex you have a rolodex of five topics and

07:30:49.320 you're like this one men sleep with goats there's pedophiles there's i've heard the most outrageous

07:30:55.160 shit from you and it's impressive okay like it's impressive so round of applause for you

07:31:01.480 but again it doesn't show intelligence at all i've never even said that you never said you were

07:31:07.480 intelligent no but you're just constantly projecting all this shit on me i'm not projecting

07:31:12.520 anything on you see but again right i just said something to you that you don't like and you're

07:31:17.080 like well you're projecting but i don't know what i don't like and you're like well walk away she

07:31:22.280 has done a master class in gaslighting oh for sure 100 you would be a terrible person to date

07:31:27.960 i hope you stay single actually i am praying i die alone like the fights would never probably

07:31:34.280 super happy one in four singles die alone until it somehow fits into your little play-doh it doesn't

07:31:42.120 even she goes all the way upstairs she goes upstairs gets an argument comes back confuses uh by the

07:31:47.240 way guys we're just gonna do the we're gonna have a roast session tts has been lowered 30

07:31:51.640 well 29 yes 29 tts we do have pasty hold on pasty i'm gonna get yours in here in just a minute

07:31:59.480 he's coming in the hell or did i already do it wait did i already do this one here

07:32:04.680 yeah yeah already came in yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i read that's when i prattled complaining and

07:32:13.960 nonsense you can't handle the facts and valid points some of the other that's what started

07:32:18.840 all day it's been a while 30 30 tts okay um mckenna women do not have equal rights to men in the usa why

07:32:28.760 is that um i think my thought process there is just in regards probably to not being allowed

07:32:35.480 to do what we want to do with our own bodies um and i understand there's birth control available

07:32:40.280 and there are condoms available and i understand that getting an abortion is not like something that

07:32:46.360 could be a right but i think you should be allowed to do what you want to do with your own body and if

07:32:50.760 you are pregnant you shouldn't have to be forced to carry the pregnancy depending on the state that you

07:32:55.640 live in but what would this have to do with equal rights between men and women yeah because men don't

07:33:01.000 have that they actually have zero options so where's the equality and that would actually that would be

07:33:05.080 more of a privilege you have to be of a certain age um and like there's a lot of other factors into

07:33:10.040 being like able to go and get your tubes tied as a woman if you're single um and you're not in a

07:33:15.320 relationship with a man um so the same i could have gotten my tubes tied at 15. my fiance is gonna

07:33:22.200 like i have a disease that directly affects my uterus and in order to get rid of that disease i

07:33:28.280 could get a hysterectomy i can make that decision i can also make the decision to do porn corn which is

07:33:35.880 literally deciding what i do with my body on a daily basis no she's right though doctors well i want to

07:33:43.000 get my tubes tied and my uh even though i have two kids i'm 28 that she's wrong my fiance has to sign

07:33:48.920 off on that but he wants to get a vasectomy and i also have to sign off on it so that's something

07:33:53.960 that we are just aren't taught as women i wasn't either i was shocked because i was like what a

07:33:58.200 disservice but it goes both ways as far as my understanding though he only has to get it signed

07:34:03.880 off by you because you guys are together the vasectomy like if you were a single man he could

07:34:10.200 just go get a vasectomy uh no if he depending on how old he was and how many kids he has

07:34:14.840 with okay then i'd say that's just misinformation not on your part i mean on the majority of the

07:34:19.720 population not understanding that a man has to get any type of part of that has to do with that

07:34:25.400 when you want something like that done it's a surgery your insurance company is paying for it

07:34:30.840 if there is not a medical necessity for it your insurance company does not want to pay out for

07:34:35.240 something like that um in in relation to this i don't know if you guys have heard of like the daddy

07:34:40.920 stitch or like oh yeah like getting the stitch to make the opener tighter that still happens in a

07:34:48.120 lot of places um it was only i think this is like within the past no it's it's absolutely it's absolutely

07:34:55.000 not um nurses and stuff talk about it not even too far back like a uh maybe 10 years they they started to

07:35:03.160 get rid of that but there are i literally just looked it up recently this is like uh

07:35:09.880 a very dubious claim it's it's not though it is okay hold on hold on so i agree that it could it

07:35:19.880 possibly has happened or you know it has happened that this has been done where they do an additional

07:35:25.480 stitch uh for the pleasure of the husband again i i've actually not seen any evidence for this i looked

07:35:32.920 into this oh yeah no the woman has to consent i looked into this my understanding though that

07:35:37.640 they're trying to conflate women who have had vaginal tearing and the doctor does what is medically

07:35:43.320 necessary by stitching up a vaginal tear i think i think the thing is the guy says oh throw another

07:35:49.240 stitch in there for me that's that they don't do that though yeah they don't do that this is ridiculous

07:35:54.280 this is some like feminist trope no i i definitely will do more research once i would definitely do

07:36:01.160 more research to make sure i don't make the mistake of saying the wrong thing again hold on okay the

07:36:07.800 tubal legation uh it does not require a husband's signature or consent from the research i've just

07:36:15.240 done um to getting your time does not require a husband's signature or consent some doctors will

07:36:23.640 deny you like you will deny you won't allow you to do it yeah but part of that has to do to how young

07:36:28.440 sure i'm being single hold on but but here's the thing i think what you're trying to get at

07:36:34.440 is that there are it perhaps is a longer uh there's more perhaps hoops you have to jump through

07:36:42.440 to get your tubes tied but that's because it's a more invasive procedure and i don't believe it's

07:36:47.960 reversible whereas vasectomies can be reversible so vasectomies are done i don't know if with tubes

07:36:54.440 tied you have to like go under and uh you know you have to be put under the vasectomy is a very

07:37:00.760 it's not a particularly invasive procedure you're in and out pretty quick and so i don't know there's

07:37:07.480 a lot of things being thrown out here i it seems a bit dubious but i'll definitely do more research

07:37:12.040 into that but me too when it comes to equal rights i think we're talking about something that's sort of

07:37:17.480 like a law something like that so mckenna i'm just asking again you you say women do not have equal

07:37:24.440 rights to men in the usa i ask how um the only point of subject that i had on that that i was

07:37:30.680 thinking of was about the body autonomy and the rights with our bodies and having access to care

07:37:36.200 being able to get it done like you said with less hoops to jump through necessarily but i also didn't

07:37:40.120 know that any man had to have any type of like you saying you had to sign off for your partner for

07:37:44.760 him to get a vasectomy or want to get a vasectomy yeah i didn't know that was a thing you know so

07:37:48.760 that's ignorance on my part there yeah it might be different here it may be different here because

07:37:52.920 i was like i didn't think about that i was like as far as i knew here that's not how it was or that

07:37:57.480 the man had more of the right over himself but that's really the only point of contingent that my

07:38:02.520 mind jumped to but that's i abortion is something that sort of uh primarily uh is related to women

07:38:09.960 but again as it relates to equal rights you could make the argument that in order for equality to

07:38:18.120 exist between men and women on this issue you would have to roll back abortion rights entirely for

07:38:24.840 there to be equality between men and women yeah or you could just give men the same amount of time

07:38:31.240 to choose that women have it's called financial abortion or legal paternal surrender and i don't

07:38:36.280 understand why that's not a thing because i definitely think that should be a thing there

07:38:40.040 are teachers who have like and this this isn't just some weird propaganda you can google it there's many

07:38:45.480 news stories where a grown-ass woman has molested a teenage boy he got her pregnant and he had to pay

07:38:52.200 child support so you've got like men paying to their perpetrators so i think i think men actually

07:38:57.720 very clearly have less rights over their own autonomy than women do they don't even have birth control what

07:39:01.880 the fuck okay well it seems like nobody has any support for women not having rights to men in the usa

07:39:10.680 uh i think the only the last one on the questionnaire that we'll do then we're going to let some roast

07:39:15.240 come in by the way guys 30 tts get the roast in we're going to let a few collect then we'll uh

07:39:20.360 get them all out uh wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count or virgin women

07:39:26.840 uh why is that yeah i circled that one too mm-hmm why taylor oh no she didn't uh taylor didn't

07:39:38.280 circle that one i just think my count shouldn't really matter if you like somebody you like somebody

07:39:42.280 i don't think it should matter who they slept with how many times they've slept with somebody

07:39:45.960 like a past is a pass almost everyone here though i except for taylor it seems agrees wrong for high

07:39:52.920 body count men to prefer to date low body count or virgin women it's like broke women that don't

07:39:58.440 have any sort of uh aspirations to do anything in life demanding a rich man it's like why why do you

07:40:04.040 equate to that type of uh value it's the same thing as like a woman like a bonnie blue well she does

07:40:10.200 demand virgins but never mind a different one it's like even you know if somebody with like like you

07:40:16.440 you've got a very high body count if you were to demand a virgin i would probably actually question your

07:40:22.120 intentions and assume you're a predator actually because it's like naivety to me yeah virginity

07:40:28.520 comes with like naivety and inexperience and so if you're somebody that has a lot of experience and

07:40:33.640 you're purposefully seeking somebody with no experience sus questionable why is it sus

07:40:40.680 because there it's like it's taking away an innocence in a way not quite i it's it's the wanting

07:40:47.960 them to never be i i don't know i have my own opinion about this it's that men want to believe

07:40:55.080 that they are like the best sexual partner that this person has ever been with right and so they

07:41:00.280 want to be with somebody who's never really been with anybody because they don't have anything to

07:41:04.120 compare it to wait but what would actually let's let's grant that let's say that yes these men are they

07:41:11.000 want to be the best that with that woman nothing wrong with that what's that what's actually wrong

07:41:18.120 with that i don't i don't see something wrong with that i think but if it's it's i don't know if we're

07:41:25.400 thinking about like a sultan wanting 10 virgin girls over like one you know mary magdala like i i understand

07:41:36.600 why the sultan would want pure women to create a pure legacy if that makes sense but like so here's

07:41:44.600 the thing i i don't know if i'm i struggle with this here this idea that so guys so

07:41:53.960 i'm trying to think the framing on this okay here it is so if it is wrong for men to

07:42:02.280 have a preference towards women who have had less sex then your position must be that men should

07:42:08.600 want their girlfriend or wife to have more men like that would be more idealistic than uh

07:42:16.840 i don't i don't believe i'm saying that i i'm i'm thinking like the men would like a lower body

07:42:23.800 count type thing for me i would want a guy who has been with more women because i would want him to be

07:42:29.880 more skilled more experienced yeah well there's a differential here between what it takes to be

07:42:34.840 good in bed between a man and a woman connections all you need but again i what where i get stumped

07:42:42.200 here is then if it's wrong for a man to want a woman with a low body counter to be a virgin

07:42:48.600 then the opposite then must be true then it must be a desirable thing for the guy

07:42:53.720 to like want his girlfriend to have been through as much dick as possible which is what about our

07:43:00.680 feelings which seems like a way worse like a way more untenable position than the guy who wants to

07:43:08.680 date a virgin or a woman with a low body count okay um i think i'm getting a little confused so i'm not

07:43:15.240 gonna uh the i i maybe take mine back because i see the word prefer now preference is everybody

07:43:22.840 can prefer whatever they want to expect it is where it gets sussed out even i mean even preferring

07:43:29.240 i'd be like yeah like why but i mean some people are into like tossing salads and i'm like why right

07:43:34.760 but preference is fine but if you're gonna expect it it's just delusional it's like a it's it's like

07:43:41.960 an only fans model expecting this like super rich guy that's gonna you know what i'm saying like

07:43:48.280 it's it's it's not a realistic in my opinion i just think it's weird i i think the difference here

07:43:53.640 though is i think this is because this is what men are attracted to they're attracted to women with a

07:43:59.720 low body count or women who are virgins i think there's differentials there's asymmetry between what

07:44:05.080 men are attracted to and what women are attracted to but i wouldn't for example a woman who lacked

07:44:11.560 confidence but she was attracted to men who had confidence i wouldn't think that this is it would

07:44:18.360 be wrong for her to desire confidence in a partner if she's lacking in that trait or any other trait

07:44:25.560 maybe a woman who's she's not funny at all but she and i think you know maybe this is the case for a lot

07:44:31.800 of women but almost this is a universal among women women like funny guys oh yeah but are women

07:44:41.400 wrong or hypocritical if they're not funny themselves for finding humor and men attractive i would i would

07:44:47.400 say no that's it's if you're not a funny woman but you want to date a funny guy totally fine don't

07:44:53.880 think you're a hypocrite at all even though to your example chloe even if a woman's broke and she wants

07:45:00.920 to date a billionaire i don't fault her for finding a billionaire attractive that almost seems like i don't

07:45:08.120 either but when she starts demanding it well whether she can get it or not is another question right but

07:45:13.720 a woman who's attracted to a man who's wealthy uh even if she's not wealthier herself i don't think

07:45:20.120 this would point towards her being wrong or hypocritical or this thing i don't think in order to desire a

07:45:27.480 trait in somebody you need possess said trait yeah i think you sold me on that one i agree with you

07:45:35.880 all right there we go sweet agreement there we go no poems yeah it's like look i think there's a lot of

07:45:42.040 women who desire things are attracted to things in men that they don't have will never have you know like a

07:45:50.680 woman who's a nobody but she finds a famous actor attractive and she would definitely date him whether

07:45:58.680 he would date her or not is another question i wouldn't be like oh you're a that's wrong for you

07:46:04.600 for the asymmetry to exist in your level of desire for this person because you lack the trait that they

07:46:11.080 possess that you like but it's whether or not it's a dating requirement like if a guy with a huge body

07:46:16.360 count is like i will only date virgins if you're preferring it it's fine like if if it comes from

07:46:23.720 some sort of like like religious and or like like not i don't know if it comes from a complex of some

07:46:31.000 type um where again it's just like i don't want her to have ever been with any other man because i

07:46:37.480 want her to only like be loyal to me and like praise me and like i'll be the the sexual master for

07:46:43.080 her or something wait that sounds weird that sounds wait hold on i think that's totally okay

07:46:48.520 that's fair okay i i do understand that as women we find it a bit possessive women don't like to be

07:46:54.280 like possessed in that nature that's fine like it's okay for them to prefer virgins but if you are like

07:46:59.880 i will only date a virgin because i want to be the dom it's just weird i get it there's both sides to

07:47:07.560 an argument i think it's okay i also think it's about the intention man what are your intentions do you

07:47:12.360 just prefer it or do you demand it it's a big difference i think it definitely can be different

07:47:18.120 things for different people but um i don't know i'm kind of losing my stance on this i feel

07:47:24.520 well you got us here brian because we were uh we've had this conversation with a guy before and the guy

07:47:30.520 was like oh no no uh like body count doesn't matter uh this is like this weird thing where you know it's

07:47:39.400 kind of uh maybe predatory for a guy to you know he was saying that it points towards men's

07:47:47.320 insecurity to want a partner who has little experience because there's like a comparison

07:47:56.280 that's going on and he was trying to make the argument that men don't want to be compared to

07:48:00.920 other partners but then i was making that statement as well earlier but then the the logic would follow

07:48:07.160 that okay well then if that's the case your position must be then wouldn't you then want your

07:48:13.640 woman to have fucked up a bunch of other men before you so she has the biggest pool of data to judge you

07:48:20.440 from that's going from one extreme to the next they don't want to be judged that's the point but

07:48:24.920 sure i mean a hundred body you know a woman who's fucked a hundred men no offense to the ladies here who

07:48:29.800 who's fucked more than that who have uh who have you know gone uh above and beyond on that front

07:48:38.040 but it's like i think the the more tenable position is the guy who you might have criticism criticism

07:48:46.040 excuse me criticisms of it but the guy who would prefer to not be compared to a bunch of men versus the

07:48:52.680 guy who has a leaning and a preference towards being with a woman who's fucked more men okay like

07:49:00.920 i don't think any man thinks in his head gee i really like this girl but only if she had

07:49:07.720 fucked more men before me like that's not that's not a thought process i've ever had i've also never

07:49:15.240 met a man in real life either online in my community or in person that is like preferred as outwardly

07:49:22.600 said i prefer virgins i think most everyday average men just want somebody that loves them

07:49:28.360 respects them and values oh yeah there's the end of the day there's other is it out there sure but i

07:49:33.720 i've never seen it first there's obviously more there's other things than just a woman's body count

07:49:40.280 or if she's a virgin right like a woman could be a virgin which is uh you know probably the most

07:49:45.720 optimum manifestation of this thing but she's a raging bitch it's like no i don't want to date a

07:49:51.880 raging bitch even if she's a virgin so you know it's not it's not the end all be all like i would

07:49:58.360 rather also date a guy who has a low body count because i want to be special to him too and if

07:50:04.920 his number is in the hundreds you know am i really that special oh my god yeah that just clicked for me

07:50:12.120 for sure because i also prefer low body counts and i just think that uh it speaks a lot to how a man

07:50:18.200 values a woman and her body but that's a big part of it like i don't want to if you've slept with all

07:50:23.160 these other women like what am i gonna are you gonna have like your reels playing in your head

07:50:27.640 of like the favorite times like what do i compare to you that's a good point all right brian i'm even

07:50:31.720 more on your side okay uh we're gonna get into the roast session guys oh $29 tts then we're gonna wrap

07:50:38.680 this up $29 tts before we do though any final thoughts from any panelists going once going

07:50:46.200 twice no okay $30 tts get them in boys get them in all right so actually we have a soup chat first

07:50:53.400 christopher who do you think is physically more capable of bearing children 19 year old women or 35

07:50:59.160 year old women who do you think is more likely to be able to provide for a family 19 year old men or 35

07:51:05.560 year old men seems like common sense to me for both men and women

07:51:12.680 nice beard christopher god damn look at that he's a handsome guy uh would you date christopher

07:51:20.520 is he i can't tell is he uh black is he black if you're not black it doesn't matter because i'm

07:51:25.960 not racist is he aboriginal i can't tell i just said i was opening myself up to white people

07:51:30.760 so i'm bringing on all right uh christopher you single we got a she you're single right i am

07:51:37.320 single and you only date black guys no she said she opened it up he's trying to set me up no no all

07:51:45.960 right well christopher thank you for the soup chat man really appreciate it all right the tts roasts

07:51:50.120 are coming in uh right we have one sec guys it's loading up here like the video guys if you enjoyed

07:51:58.280 the stream oh really quick uh shop.whatever.com if you can pull pull it up there guys you can buy

07:52:04.520 whatever t-shirt for the price of a roast you know just buy if you want to get a t-shirt get a little

07:52:10.360 something uh shop.whatever.com same price our t-shirts are the same price now as a roast okay we have i

07:52:18.840 love men thank you love men donated twenty nine dollars chloe shipped tattoos when the pot started

07:52:25.880 i really enjoyed your dicks openness etc chair number four you are doing what she can't

07:52:31.800 being respectful whilst not flicking brian's little wien under the table

07:52:38.040 wow nice roast that was going chair for i'm flicking your wiener i guess being respectful

07:52:44.360 it's the accent she has the ai i don't get it that's what it is thank you though thanks for that

07:52:50.520 one c1 nightmare fuel c2 stop whining c3 red rocket cam show c4 i'm calling ice c5 airhead c6 pivot queen

07:53:04.040 c7 leech c8 all forms of feminism are wrong rat c9 direct deposit to mcdonald's

07:53:11.800 uh oh chat do you think we should instead of having it be tts we have jade should we have jade

07:53:22.760 read the roasts what do you think yes let me let me see what the chat says chat uh one in the chat if

07:53:29.800 jade should read two in the chat if just leave it tts that's crazy one in the chat jade reads the

07:53:38.120 roasts two in the chat leave it as tts one in the chat jade does the roasts two in the chat leave it

07:53:47.000 as tts i love how everyone thinks that roasting my tattoos is gonna like hurt me like you have to look

07:53:51.480 at them i have to live with them like you think i think they're great like all right it looks like

07:53:54.760 it's one all right jade you don't have to wear them every day do the reads all right hold on i'm

07:54:00.680 gonna let oh one sec here this one's gonna come through and then hold on pen maker donated thirty

07:54:07.080 dollars okay mindless prattle room temperature iq heifer and i'm not reading direct product of

07:54:13.000 feminism i'm misogyny just in a while kick her and chair five for good measure damn you don't

07:54:20.600 need to be calling people heifers man that's that's pretty rude i don't even like the chick but that's

07:54:25.080 rude oh this should work now okay if you can read this oh just want to help the defense fund against

07:54:32.280 crazy kylie she's nutso i will say women are usually oh hold on let me fix it yikes uh what happened

07:54:40.440 there sorry guys one sec it's so calming and relaxing what a nice close-up to the show she's

07:54:46.200 like you're a bitch and it's like the best thing we ever heard can you record some asmr for me

07:54:50.040 donated twenty nine dollars and ninety nine cents just want to help the defense fund against

07:54:56.280 crazy kylie she's not scuffed i will say women are usually just exhausting to deal with better to

07:55:03.720 live alone in a desert no it's okay all right here let's do this let's see if this works

07:55:11.080 faster pineapple on pizza is delicious chair one two or three does life begin at the erection

07:55:17.320 conception credit check or bank account review

07:55:20.360 claim for another winner all right the heartbeat starts and and read their name like do a thank you

07:55:32.920 like thank you pen maker thank you pen maker you donated thirty dollars the room temp iq

07:55:41.160 vote in chair two is a direct product of feminism and is most bad faith guest you've had in a long

07:55:47.800 time bricks and you're a saint thank you oh it's it's like a inside joke kind of they put they put an x

07:55:58.120 in the name thank you pasty george that donated thirty dollars chair eight is correct female child

07:56:03.800 predators are on the rise female teachers are preying on and sleeping with young boys and girls

07:56:08.840 but mostly boys this is happening in canada as well

07:56:15.480 thank you stride chin nine dreams i don't know what that is donated thirty dollars chair eight

07:56:21.000 you are not my type but i do really like your world for you that's you chloe

07:56:25.800 no you're cherry you're cherry oh i thought you were cherry i thought i was cherry nine who's

07:56:31.640 cherry nine one two three four five six seven eight that's brian oh thanks bud uh van can wander

07:56:39.560 donated thirty dollars would kate be interested in a short distance relationship across the border with

07:56:45.160 an intention to build a family in vancouver bc possibly

07:56:50.600 all right there you go couples being made in the chat here wow we've had

07:56:58.840 honestly though the a lot of women have come on the show and found boyfriends

07:57:03.400 really yeah wow a lot of women a lot of women

07:57:09.240 nick were you laughing thank you plain donated 29 the only one worth attention on this panel is the one not

07:57:15.400 exploiting herself i respect you and you deserve a decent high value guy the other chopped up

07:57:20.840 plastic fakes enjoy an empty superficial life wait you said there was only one there's i think

07:57:27.400 there's more there's like multiple people that have sex with

07:57:31.640 clane has a favorite that's fine thanks for the donation he just he won't tell us who the favorite

07:57:35.560 is though yeah they're leaving it a mystery inquiring minds want to know jackson donated thirty

07:57:40.520 dollars it really isn't more complicated than the more men a woman sleeps with comes with habits that

07:57:48.120 aren't conductive to being in a healthy monogamous relationship also it's not wrong to want

07:57:56.600 it disappeared a virgin okay yeah not wrong to not want to be compared that's what that's what he

07:58:04.760 i was off dave hon thank you man joe finley donated thirty dollars men want low because

07:58:12.520 body count women women want high body count men men want the highest beauty and childbearing ability

07:58:18.520 women want security and protection value increases with men and inversa

07:58:23.240 uh we're value increases with men and inversely with women due to this truth okay

07:58:31.640 okay okay chore xd donated thirty dollars a desire for virgin women is based in a timeless

07:58:40.840 concept of female virtues chaste women are viewed as adhering to their female virtue women hold men

07:58:47.160 to a different set of virtues which we accept all right there you go just skip

07:58:52.280 i'm not getting roasted skip the donated part just say uh like thank you pasty george okay

07:58:57.240 thank you pasty george i've talked to many men both in canada and the u.s who said they want

07:59:03.480 a virgin trad woman from another country because they've had such horrible experiences with western

07:59:08.120 women especially in marriage

07:59:12.760 oh yeah pasty is canadian there you go was he canadian male ordered bread thank you l underscore neck

07:59:20.440 tats brian you know damn well it's too hot out there to be wearing that big ass jacket

07:59:25.880 quit trying to hide that huge dumpy burrito boy it's true for all the nasty 304s who will end up

07:59:31.720 alone with cats or poor simps

07:59:36.280 i can't believe you get it not the cat oh yeah they roast the shit out of me

07:59:39.720 they roast the shit out of me all right thank you pasty george the chat proves that the simp epidemic is

07:59:48.440 israel why in the joyful i don't know what that means any of you want chair four to read out the

07:59:53.960 tts fucking loser simps hey they like my voice you'd be nice

08:00:00.840 well probably because like the tts voice it comes through

08:00:04.360 the computer speakers into the microphone it's actually just probably more pleasing to the ears i

08:00:10.440 guess thank you griddles chloe getting a tattoo of brian on her arm before coming onto the show

08:00:16.280 is crazy work i see the resemblance oh it's identical hot you're on me forever

08:00:28.120 i know little peep like i how he looks

08:00:33.880 well i was gonna say they were very uh they were very generous

08:00:38.440 not that he's an ugly guy but he's quite striking you know here this is very you know anyways whatever

08:00:46.760 anyways the rest in peace rest in peace um

08:00:50.280 thank you davin jackson chairs two and three don't have the fortitude to just say with their chest that

08:00:56.360 they think met more than 51 of men would assault them they don't even consider that more men would

08:01:01.880 help slash ignore than hurt them fair point fair point thank you not everybody would help

08:01:09.880 find the handle on instagram let's go on a date next month wait who's this for seattle okay what the

08:01:17.800 van can wander yeah van can find that one on instagram okay wait van like van life we we charge

08:01:25.000 a sim tax then if you're gonna be simping we're charging the sim tax you gotta uh send in the 69

08:01:32.760 dollar tts as a sim tax he can also just find me on instagram maker chair eight don't tell me what to

08:01:39.800 do you could eat an apple in one bite chair nine don't get burrito grease on those pens chair one and

08:01:46.360 two both infected by feminist ideas but chair one in infinitely more pleasant oh thank you

08:01:55.000 oh my god thank you b hood 21 a high body count woman statistically six plus will also bring

08:02:01.240 problems into the relationship like cheating loss of pair bonding relationship dissatisfaction

08:02:06.760 depression anxiety and loneliness that's actually a true statistic it's facts yeah

08:02:14.120 thank you big pull out chair two and chair five intellectually disabled chair one and chair eight

08:02:20.840 nice nice nice you guys want to respond uh chair two so that's lindsey and chair five uh big booty taylor

08:02:29.240 do you guys want to respond to being uh called intellectually disabled any response you're good

08:02:38.920 you want to you can you want to roast back you can roast back if you want oh i mean

08:02:44.920 i'm just kidding no because i think that uh his name was big pull out maybe yeah i know

08:02:53.400 i bet it's actually little teeny pull out anything they pull out anything you guys gonna just let them

08:02:59.640 just fucking run i can roast them for you guys i don't i don't think he can pull out

08:03:04.200 out and if he does it's uh after his two second beat you know boom roasted

08:03:12.600 good job thank you devon jackson i just wanted to have chair force say that chairs two and three and

08:03:18.440 five are rat todd did unable to stand on anything they believe and are overall uninteresting

08:03:26.040 i mean i guess thank you everyone's entitled to their opinion used for my voice

08:03:33.480 i'm being exploited right now dreams you are very empathetic i wish you the best shut up

08:03:42.040 all right cool cool uh guys if you want get them in we have dicks oh my he almost got me

08:03:48.200 you almost got me i caught it uh just cause thing for the membership appreciate it guys 30 tts get them

08:03:54.280 in get them in we need some roasts you know i think uh who hasn't been roasted chair one hasn't

08:03:59.080 really been roasted too much that's cause she's she's real needs to be roasted i expected roasting

08:04:05.560 i need it i think kate needs a bit of a roast after she got simped on i feel like you guys spent the

08:04:13.960 first 20 minutes roasting me so why are you on alimony still that was the roast yeah exactly

08:04:20.520 why are you still getting money girl we have a segment where everybody removes their makeup

08:04:28.600 nice let's go boys who's down who's the taker me i'll do it all right thank god i'm like sweating

08:04:35.800 i need a face are these clean i'm not going to look much different though guys don't be astonished

08:04:41.320 all right guys 30 tts get them in get them in

08:04:44.120 oh my god oh yeah no these are mine let me get a roast do you know how many comments they got

08:04:49.240 from girls let's go here for the roast make up off at least it's gonna go slightly red though but

08:04:54.680 that's not that's good you're gonna do it take it off no thank you okay all right yeah i literally

08:05:01.400 look the same i'm good for the shits and giggles i don't want to have to redo it later it's been on my

08:05:06.040 face too long it's going to my bedtime routine it's late see i told you i don't look any different

08:05:13.000 uh i brought my face my six pure face hold it and then when you're done when you're done are you

08:05:18.440 gonna do it do it come on do it be a good sport you didn't answer any of the questions at least take

08:05:26.120 your makeup take your paint off hold on i gotta yoink this oh this is kind of cool don't squeeze it

08:05:32.200 oh you still have the thing on it did i oh my god i don't squeeze it too hard not super hard like

08:05:37.160 don't like oh it's okay but yeah you can look i can barely open i can barely open champagne bottles

08:05:44.200 okay don't worry i'm not gonna yeah you don't have the grip strength i don't have the grip strength for

08:05:48.280 this all right hold it up this is my new caucasian hold up the damage okay all right we got chloe here

08:05:57.880 hold it up over here hold it up hold it up yeah go ahead anyone you want she's gonna do it yay i

08:06:04.920 might need two do not judge here did you even use this once during the show yeah she did yeah i feel

08:06:12.120 like it was just sitting there the entire time she she had a fidget thing the first time i was on i was

08:06:17.880 fidgeting with it the entire time so i'm kind of hold them up hold them up let's see let's see

08:06:22.600 no you're just gonna wipe it off it's not even done to top to bottom oh my god one second take it

08:06:26.600 take it and go top to bottom hold it up hold it up hold it up all right there it is folks there's the

08:06:32.040 makeup transformation transformation love it you're waiting on me she's gonna do it oh god oh she's

08:06:41.000 doing it okay good i'll let some chats come through jade you ready to read while they're now we're

08:06:45.160 steering thank you pen maker bright brixton after this panel you have a much better claim that this

08:06:55.080 podcast caused emotional holy shit talking about me diddling your digital yeah you've definitely

08:07:01.800 you've been digital essay digital essay oh yes yeah you know what's funny about that though is

08:07:08.520 is like anything that happens on the show that's not ever really my primary source of stress as it

08:07:17.880 relates to the show it's always shit that's happening behind the scenes that's the stressful part you know

08:07:24.200 look i called her uh i called a couple people tonight retards i'm not look i'm not there's no hard

08:07:31.240 feelings i'm not i don't have any uh there's no long-standing beef with anybody who's on the

08:07:38.120 show i hate you now brian with you oh well i can't we are enemies brian i can't control that

08:07:45.320 oh wait hold it up again sorry i missed it hold it up oh you're pretty wait hold that one can you hold

08:07:49.720 that one up i have to do a second one i'm not done yet hold your first one yeah oh freck the freckles

08:07:56.040 are real there are that's what i said that's what i said yeah wait get the side wait aren't they

08:08:00.280 tattoos this one you can are they tattoos yeah i think the freckles are tattoos they might be

08:08:05.080 tattoos oh yeah yeah exposed i wanted to do that oh my gosh freckle tattoos okay that's the way

08:08:11.720 they're they're done very well though yeah let me see two hold it up hold it up spread spread them

08:08:19.720 okay that's sounded yeah pause so pretty right yeah yeah yeah you're gorgeous naturally wait did

08:08:26.440 we sorry did we read this one jade the was it pasty wasn't paying attention thank you uh thank you

08:08:33.320 pasty george i like it when women say that they would rather choose a random bear in the woods over

08:08:37.720 a man but get mad when men do not want drag queens in children's schools or trans men in women's washrooms

08:08:44.200 lol yo pasty george thank you man appreciate it thank you van can wonder burritos overload and

08:08:52.040 personal trainer as simps tax kate got enough roasted come on can't find her on instagram drop

08:08:57.640 your handle right now right now it's on the the whatever thing when if they share it it's kate

08:09:03.160 period not period cat period do you want to share your pew pew one or no

08:09:08.600 no you're you have a different instagram the pew pew one no you don't want to share it okay uh

08:09:16.360 all right no i have a different instagram with a different name oh you said thank you guys chair

08:09:22.200 one is based but is a literal succubus demon oh my gosh reach around is diabolical she also talks

08:09:30.440 about ethical non-monogamy but makes men pay for intimacy she said her man can't give women

08:09:36.760 i never said oh like you can give intimacy to those men but your man makes men pay for intimacy

08:09:43.480 she said her man can't give w m women like women like women oh sorry okay uh

08:09:52.280 i i don't know it's not my man my man gives me lots of love refreshing okay i am very secure in my

08:09:58.600 relationship wait but can your man give other women love yeah he does yeah okay and he does it very well

08:10:04.280 all right 30 tts guys if you want your message read and that's through streamlabs.com whatever

08:10:11.720 final call then we're gonna get this wrapped up here does someone just say that i told someone to

08:10:15.720 kill themselves okay just avoid avoid that oh it was below the threshold too so it's not oh i was like

08:10:21.720 well i've never said that i would never say that 30 tts guys final call final call then we're gonna get

08:10:27.320 this wrapped up here all right final call all right uh guys if you've enjoyed the stream like the video

08:10:33.880 also if you guys can stick around right after we end the stream uh if you guys can leave some comments

08:10:41.160 on the video leave uh leave some nice comments so we did the roast session we end with the roast

08:10:45.800 but what i'd like to see leave some nice comments even about big booty tay tay you can do some nice

08:10:52.600 comments this is really really nice of you brian i'm impressed yeah this has never happened before

08:10:57.560 stay till the end once because uh you can't leave comments during the actual live stream but once the

08:11:02.920 live stream is over then you're allowed to leave the comments on the show so guys stay till the very

08:11:07.640 end and just drop a little nice comment you know say uh you like chloe's little little peep tattoo or

08:11:13.320 you like um her split tongue you want to show them the split tongue there it is uh you like uh you like lindsey's

08:11:20.920 how smart she is i'll be mad at you uh mckenna you know you like her dog tattoo looks like a nice

08:11:29.320 dog there you go you like her she's got an airplane there and she's got a bunch of there's a sword

08:11:36.600 you know jade you like her accent that she's british but you got a big booty tay there you can tell her

08:11:45.480 that um you like her freckles you know or she's got nice fake freckles is that are they actually

08:11:52.760 fake they're tattooed on i didn't know i didn't know you could do that yeah i don't really wear

08:11:58.040 i don't really wear makeup that much so i should have been calling you freckles the entire night

08:12:02.520 uh let's see you can tell uh her that she's a great black conservative woman nice

08:12:07.560 you can tell kate that you love her gauges even even what even you love her gauges and then all

08:12:17.960 right well you already said that you can just tell me to fuck off it's fine do that uh let's see okay

08:12:23.560 a couple final ones coming through we have uh i think that guy that was claiming that i sell stuff

08:12:30.280 on my patreon i was pissed about it but now i just realized that he did me a service because now

08:12:34.200 everyone's gonna subscribe hoping to see boobs and they're gonna be so disappointed but hopefully

08:12:38.360 you stay bamboozled uh do you feel less confident showing yourself without makeup in any case you're

08:12:43.560 all magnificent just as you are oh natural thank you mr r so confident that's very nice i prefer not

08:12:50.760 to wear it i've never worn a lot of makeup i love it fair face but like if you go on camera you have

08:12:55.640 to wear like yeah thank you pen maker yeah but here's the twist you deserve every bit of the trauma

08:13:02.280 until you lose all that jiggle wiggle that is so true you can deep throat a burrito better than

08:13:09.800 the of girls can an eggplant emoji oh my god that's rude as fuck that's wild yeah that's actually super

08:13:15.880 rude savage thank you for the donation i do eat burritos he said but i can't deep throat that burrito so

08:13:25.000 look five ten minutes it's gone oh man he meant seconds thank you pasty george i want to thank

08:13:32.680 the panel lists for attending the podcast and to brian our host respect to the women who removed their

08:13:38.360 makeup to show their real faces online thank you all and good night w pasty george thank you man

08:13:44.360 appreciate it i hope the casino money is uh it's killing he's uh first nations oh nice uh canadian

08:13:51.400 canadian shout out yeah wait where i want to know where yeah can can he go to your or uh can can chloe

08:13:58.040 go to your casino pasty george wasn't he the one that called me fat i don't think he was yeah

08:14:04.680 i'm gonna come and i'm getting everything there oh shit everything oh shit all right guys uh let me

08:14:11.400 see if there's any shout outs for venmo no i think we're all good but if you want to send something

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08:14:28.600 thing for the five gifted subs guys it's been one hour since we last out of prime guys i think it's

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08:14:51.880 like the video like let brian know if you want me to come back yeah literally we'll have her back

08:14:57.320 we'll have her back uh let's see if there's anything else uh okay steve gooch thank you for the

08:15:03.240 prime it is steve gooch here it is steve gooch thank you for the prime appreciate it i'm so

08:15:11.640 traumatized right now all right guys like the video and then final reminder guys stay until the end and

08:15:18.440 just wait till the the comments become available leave a nice comment leave a nice comment for you

08:15:23.800 could say something nice about the show something nice about me something nice about one of the guests

08:15:27.720 just say leave a nice comment um or look if you really want to you can talk some

08:15:33.000 shit but i'm asking if you can say something right among yourselves if you're willing got pen maker here

08:15:39.720 thank you pen maker women will never understand men we abuse each other to motivate out of love

08:15:45.720 you fat loser brian oh my gosh damn oh this was about me damn

08:15:51.400 yeah damn pen maker brutal okay uh oh okay two more just came through hold on

08:16:02.600 thank you l underscore neck tats uh c1 evil daddy issues three or four c2 corn hub feminist thought

08:16:09.400 c3 identifies as a guy c4 can sit on my face c5 cake daughter thought c6 team is george floyd that's a

08:16:18.280 good one bro that's a good one i'll pull it back up oh my god yeah i like mine i wanted to read

08:16:23.000 that i want to hear it george so i'm on sale but dead oh i want to hear it in the british accent it's

08:16:29.320 coming back up the previous one for you to be able to finish it c6 teamu george floyd c7 love your gauges

08:16:36.600 c8 yapping capping gap tooth 304

08:16:42.920 man you made even my cousin laugh at me what the hell

08:16:48.040 thank you sons of liberty brian i lived in florida and we have no good mexican food great seafood but

08:16:53.640 limited mexican food bro enjoy those burritos have a thank you sons of liberty appreciate it i will put

08:16:59.960 this to good use i will get i will get the best mexican burrito aren't they all mexican i don't

08:17:06.520 whatever oh did i play it again my bad yeah i will i will use this towards the burrito fund the burrito

08:17:14.120 fund thank you thank you uh okay i'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an

08:17:19.320 opportunity to give you you you and you a call to action would you consider stopping sex work entirely

08:17:28.600 tonight no right now on the whatever podcast what like what sex work like all of it like all

08:17:37.160 of it wait what were you willing to give up you're like well which part which one like all of it is

08:17:43.160 there one you're willing to give up

08:17:49.320 do i get to take my money out of my pending

08:17:53.960 will you promise me you won't peg any more people in public

08:17:56.520 i gotta help them encourage encourage me um as of tonight no won't give it up

08:18:07.640 yes okay well i tried anyways gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your

08:18:17.000 way out also like i said please leave a nice comment once the live ends i read them positivity is nice and

08:18:25.160 just leaving a comment helps the algo algorithm thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been

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08:18:40.280 stuff gets demonetized we don't really get sponsorships so really we are fan funded so thank

08:18:45.800 you guys so much really appreciate it thank you to the wonderful panel tonight guys really appreciate it

08:18:50.120 you guys were dope thank you for joining me just want to be clear you know i know we had some heated

08:18:54.280 back and forth some exchanges i don't take any of it personally no hard feelings with any of you i'll

08:19:00.200 shake all of your hands after the show uh you know we're having these sometimes contentious discussions

08:19:06.280 and debates uh so no hard feelings towards towards any of you hopefully no one tries to beat me up in

08:19:12.360 the parking lot because i do not want to get to you coming for you but i do appreciate i do appreciate

08:19:18.120 all you guys coming even if we disagree we will be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific any girls who

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08:19:42.360 bye

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