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00:03:55.040 channel oh by the way uh before we have everyone introduce themselves andrew will be joining us

00:04:00.240 here in just a few minutes uh with that said without further ado we're gonna have the guests

00:04:04.320 introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location occupation and education so if you went

00:04:11.760 to college or major etc go ahead my name is michaela kwan i'm 22 years old i'm from fort lauderdale

00:04:18.800 florida i am a medical assistant and then i'm an influencer on the side and i have a bachelor's in

00:04:24.800 nutrition from the university of florida all right rock and roll what about you my name is bella i do

00:04:31.520 only fans um i just dropped out of college after doing it for one and a half years majoring in

00:04:38.240 criminal justice and i'm 20 years old all right and uh did you say where you're from oh and i'm from l.a

00:04:43.920 from l.a oh like born and raised okay and uh what do you do on of what kind of content uh full nudity

00:04:51.120 any bg stuff or okay and what can we even i don't know if we can say it on on stream

00:05:00.400 uh maybe try to censor it but what i don't know if what's your instagram usually i'm just curious

00:05:07.040 chinkerbell that's that's crazy um we have a couple we have uh i believe two two other asian women

00:05:15.360 at on the panel do you what do you guys think about the you know the the name is it fire is it

00:05:21.120 fire okay that's cool yeah that's fun uh all right uh what about you uh my name is ebony i'm 20 i'm from

00:05:31.040 florida um do i have to say the city no you don't have to say city i'm from florida and um i do only

00:05:38.000 fans as well i also do webcamming and um what was the other question uh education like are you in

00:05:44.880 college i was in college i dropped out i was doing biology okay all right how many years in did you

00:05:50.720 drop out like two semesters yeah okay uh what about you hello my name is shelby clayton i'm 23 years old

00:06:01.200 i'm originally from reno nevada but i live in la now um i do acting modeling and fitness content

00:06:09.280 all right cool oh uh any school no school okay what about you um hi i'm anisa born and raised in la

00:06:19.520 i'm still in college majoring in political science um i act make music and do influencing on the side as

00:06:26.160 well uh age 20 20. and you're you've always been from la or well um born and raised a little bit in

00:06:34.080 la then i moved to the valley so i guess you could say woodland hills gotcha and you're in your uh third

00:06:39.200 year fourth year of university or second second year and you said you uh do some music what kind of

00:06:44.560 music do you do um i sing r&b music uh-huh let's hear something oh wait do you know uh etta james

00:06:52.880 uh at last do you know that song i know a couple words i mean i could do like or whatever you want

00:06:58.960 you can do whatever you'd like okay let's see threw away your love letters i thought it made me feel

00:07:08.240 better i finally got you out my head but i still can't get you off my bed oh i'm sending you one

00:07:19.600 text at a time i know you by your phone so boy pick up your line and i ain't too proud to beg so

00:07:29.600 what's been said has been said that was great rock and roll and you said that you do influencing

00:07:40.000 can you be a little bit more specific what's the is there like a genre of influencing i guess like

00:07:45.680 i like to say kind of lifestyle content so like everyday errands i'll do some videos on that okay

00:07:51.680 i'm out shopping and fashion stuff too and just daily lifestyle stuff fashion and i do makeup videos

00:07:58.960 as well okay so it's kind of like a little bit of everything that has to do with everyday life

00:08:02.640 gotcha okay and you said that you did influencing too what's yours is yours similar yeah it's mostly

00:08:07.680 like it's on tiktok okay it's pretty much now it's like lifestyle content okay it started off

00:08:12.720 just like sharing stuff about being biracial gotcha okay interesting it started off that way but yeah

00:08:20.560 did it continue i mean it continued but like people started making fun of me they were saying it was

00:08:24.640 like my only personality trait so i kind of switched to do like content that i like to do all right yeah

00:08:31.280 uh what about you hi my name is mylin i'm 33 and i own and manage a meal prep store in west hollywood

00:08:40.560 and silver lake and um i graduated from the cordon bleu is that a it's a culinary school chef oh

00:08:49.120 culinary okay um did you do any like uh besides that did you go to like i don't know more typical

00:08:56.880 university or college or straight to culinary school i tried college like six times how many different

00:09:03.440 colleges six six different colleges okay yeah and did you get like an associates or i was getting

00:09:11.840 ready to apply to nursing school and i just kind of i decided to go more like the entrepreneur like

00:09:20.160 business route okay got it and i'm also from los angeles but i was born in japan okay do you speak

00:09:27.120 japanese or yeah i sound like i'm five but yeah okay all right uh what about you um my name is mecca

00:09:34.240 i'm 25 i'm from la i model and i dance um i went to school but i dropped out but i want to go back for

00:09:40.880 cosmetology gotcha and when you say dance like uh like in a club stripping yeah all right there you go

00:09:48.560 okay what about you my name is daya um i'm 21 i'm originally from arizona and georgia and now i live

00:09:56.000 in la um i graduated with my bachelor's degree in marketing and now i work as a marketer and a sailor

00:10:03.680 and a sailor okay got it uh what do you sail on do you have a boat i do have a boat yeah on the boat i

00:10:11.680 yeah and i'm beginning a business where i'm teaching other women how to sail so that's the end goal is to

00:10:18.240 teach other women how to be one with mother nature do you will you teach men or is it

00:10:22.960 i mean yes like brandon over here wants to learn how to yeah what if i want to sail do you like what

00:10:27.760 if he wants um no okay no i mean um i plan on doing women only trips i feel like that's safer creating

00:10:36.080 a safe space for just women to be together yeah what if there's a bear on the sailboat then we're

00:10:41.520 pushing the bear off i've got my would you rather have a bear on the sailboat or a man on the sailboat

00:10:45.920 so i believe that you know i have taught some men and i would teach men sailing but i would not do

00:10:52.720 male groups with myself on a sailboat in a remote island i don't think that's a good idea so it's

00:10:59.120 like a safe space for women yes but like what if none of the women are like strong enough to like

00:11:03.280 move the jib boom well i can move the you know how to move the jib boom the jib boom do you know what

00:11:09.040 you're a sailor right you know what the jib that's what it's called okay there's a mast which has a boom

00:11:16.000 the jib boom there is okay i will teach you how to sail all right um what about you my name is

00:11:24.800 samson i am 28 i'm from michigan and i'm a home improvement contractor along with i've done

00:11:31.680 maintenance and technician work uh any schooling or college anything uh just two on one year of

00:11:38.480 college okay yeah all right my name is brandon clark i'm from bozeman montana i am a natural

00:11:46.080 bodybuilder um i'm an entrepreneur fitness coach i own a couple of businesses and i am a college dropout

00:11:55.280 yeah i've used in the chat for the w and i'm a virgin i might as well just get that out of the

00:11:59.920 way right now and brian is trying to find the love of my life for me yes um we were i was going to get

00:12:06.080 to that during the like the relationship status part i thought you just wanted me to come out with

00:12:09.600 it now just like i mean that works too i might as well stamp it on my forehead yeah all right there

00:12:15.840 you go yeah i am his uh i'm i'm your you have to go through brian dm brian first to get to me yes um

00:12:24.960 um all right uh i'm brian atlas 35 youtuber washed up has been over the hill podcast host uh yeah

00:12:37.760 that's pretty much it uh andrew what about you oh no andrew oh my gosh she shaved the beard what

00:12:44.800 happened hold on just cut cut the call damien cut the call what did oh dude

00:12:49.440 yeah my face is very cold he shaved he shaved his beard yeah so my name is uh andrew wilson i'm the

00:12:57.840 host of the crucible it's popular entertainment channel on youtube i'm a political analyst a

00:13:02.480 political satirist and i do conversations and debates all over the world and i'm happy to be

00:13:06.720 here tonight welcome andrew by the way i i saw a couple days ago i didn't mention this on sunday's

00:13:12.000 stream your debate on uh piers piers morgan with sank fantastic guys so you guys uh if you haven't

00:13:20.160 seen it yet you can just check it out on youtube but very well he's worked pretty hard it was really

00:13:24.720 funny yeah it was a definitely a very very interesting debate um going around the table once more what is

00:13:32.720 everybody's current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's the

00:13:38.720 longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead um i'm single i've been single

00:13:43.520 for five months now um and my longest relationship was four years was that the one that ended uh five

00:13:49.920 months ago yeah okay pretty fresh uh who broke up with who um he broke up with me was there a reason

00:13:57.680 given or um he was a medical student so the last two years of our relationship was um long distance so he

00:14:04.080 he got really busy and i was living in florida okay no cheating no okay okay so he's a medical

00:14:10.480 student got busy uh five months for your relationship isn't it like i don't know if you guys know like

00:14:17.120 isn't it the case that it takes half the length of the relationship to get over it is that has that

00:14:24.880 been the case for any of you are you are you good yeah no i'm definitely over it yeah i think i read

00:14:30.400 somewhere that it was like one month for every year that you were in the relationship i don't know

00:14:35.280 wow that's pretty fast i would say that's pretty fast okay all right um and uh so you've been single

00:14:43.440 for five months any have you been on any dates since then or anything yeah i've been on a few dates yeah

00:14:47.600 any prospects any not really no yeah what would you say you're looking for um i don't think i'm

00:14:56.480 necessarily looking for anything right now i'm just like you know if it comes like if the right

00:15:03.280 person comes and that's it all right good times good times what about you so i am single for a

00:15:10.880 year and a half my longest relationship was like six months all right was that the one that ended

00:15:16.240 a year and a half ago yeah who broke up with who i did why um it was kind of like agree to disagree

00:15:23.040 kind of thing uh we argued a lot and we couldn't come to a conclusion so we kind of just broke

00:15:27.120 things off who started the arguments he did he'd start it okay was it on again off again or was it

00:15:33.280 it was consistent okay so you ended it a year and a half ago it was a six month relationship

00:15:38.880 and that's your longest okay and that's before you started your only fans yeah that ended okay were

00:15:44.880 you thinking of starting no while okay and uh in the year and a half that you've been single have you

00:15:52.480 been see have you seen anybody maybe for like a month two months anything like that you've been

00:15:57.120 have you have you been celibate for a year and a half yes come on really yeah okay all right and uh

00:16:03.920 so any dates or anything or no no dates no dates because i thought i think i saw on your tick tock you uh

00:16:10.080 uh you've made it it's clickbait it's clickbait you posted a tick no no what you you posted the

00:16:15.120 tick tock about uh you you were looking for announcing that you were looking for for someone

00:16:21.840 to like slide into your dms or something how's that it's rage bait oh so you're not actually looking

00:16:29.760 okay so you wouldn't even go on a date like if somebody asked you out i generally don't want a

00:16:34.080 relationship right now okay so you're focused on business yeah interesting is there like a specific

00:16:38.960 number that you're trying to hit before you're like okay now i'll date um until i fall off until

00:16:44.160 you fall off fall off yeah and then i just quit the industry so like three three months or yeah you

00:16:48.960 have like a year a year on it fall off typically like 20 23 24 or are you planning on just going as

00:16:56.160 long as it possibly takes as long as i can milk it oh all right i mean what what if you don't fall

00:17:00.960 off until like you're 60 then i'm single till 60. all right there you go uh what about you

00:17:08.960 uh my last relationship was like high school like my junior year um i'm single um

00:17:16.320 so you've been single for three years three four years i guess okay yeah all right longest

00:17:22.080 relationship it was like six months he was like my only boyfriend all right he's the only boyfriend

00:17:27.440 you've had okay in the three years you've been single uh anything shorter term like one two three

00:17:31.680 months anything like that yeah i've had like some flings here and there yeah okay all right uh do you have

00:17:36.960 a roster currently do i have a roster yeah i mean not really i mean no no so there's no guys in the

00:17:44.320 picture currently not one okay maybe a few but it's not like a roster what's a few what's a few five

00:17:51.840 like three three three okay did they know about each other of course not okay okay so it is a

00:17:58.320 roster it sounds like a roster like i'm just going out you know are you are you like uh i i think this

00:18:06.480 is kind of common like are you hooking up with one and the other two like just dating no you're not

00:18:12.080 hooking up with any of them no okay but you're dating all of them yeah all right interesting okay uh

00:18:17.760 uh what about you um i've been single for like two years and my longest relationship was two years as

00:18:24.320 well is that the two-year relationship is that the one that ended two years ago yeah okay who broke up

00:18:30.560 with him um i broke up with him why um just wanted to have a season of being single and learn more about

00:18:42.000 myself and just experience life being single not in a bad way but just focus on myself did you want

00:18:49.440 to find yourself um i just think it's important to like be single when you're young so that you can

00:18:58.320 focus on yourself and learn what you're looking for and find somebody whose goals and paths and values

00:19:05.520 align with yours okay all right what about you um i've been single for almost two years and my

00:19:14.800 longest relationship was two years as well all right is that the one that ended two years ago yes

00:19:20.880 who broke up with who i did why i just couldn't do it anymore like it was just too much for me it was

00:19:27.760 just very stressful it started to get really toxic he was kind of insecure so it was just hard to handle

00:19:33.760 okay uh and uh do you are you are you seeing anybody currently no i'm just nobody no prospects no

00:19:42.080 nothing none they all just got cut off but for the new year oh okay when you say all how what are we

00:19:47.760 talking about like two three four what did um maybe like four okay yeah like four and you were seeing

00:19:55.920 them for a couple weeks couple months yeah each of them it was kind of like i was talking to one and

00:20:02.240 then another one just came along and like you know since i'm single it's just like you know i'm

00:20:05.360 gonna talk to both of you guys and then the third one came along the fourth one yeah all right oh and

00:20:12.000 going back to you shelby really quick um are there any guys in the picture currently um i'm dating but

00:20:19.040 no nobody's like nobody like serious right now do you have a roster no okay all right what about you

00:20:27.760 i'm i'm currently single i've been single for about seven months um my longest relationship was

00:20:35.920 six years is that the one that ended seven months ago or is that no it was like one when i was in my

00:20:42.000 early 20s okay gotcha the six-year relationship who broke up with who i broke up with them the seven

00:20:47.600 month relation or the relationship seven months ago who broke up with me okay uh what were the reasons

00:20:53.600 for the what was the reason for the six-year one um he was 15 years older than me and i think

00:20:59.760 i was maturing and i was i guess kind of changing or okay becoming my own person uh wait uh how old

00:21:08.560 were you when you met him i was 19 and he you said 15 he was 15 older 15 years older so he was 30

00:21:15.520 30 34 33 something like that yeah okay the math is just difficult for us uh it's been a while uh

00:21:25.840 wait so uh okay you were with him for six years though and then i mean were there any issues in

00:21:30.880 the relationship or just like oh he's old no it had i don't think he had anything to do with the

00:21:36.640 age he didn't start balding or anything he was already starting when i met him oh no he was a great

00:21:44.640 he's a great guy i just i think um because when you're 19 i think you're not quite sure what you

00:21:52.960 want and um as i was getting older and more mature i realized that that person wasn't um

00:21:59.440 someone i wanted to spend the rest of my life with how did you meet him him being so much older than

00:22:03.520 you so i lived abroad for the last decade and i worked in the circus so i traveled a lot and um

00:22:12.480 we worked for the same company and i met him through work perfect circus what do you what did

00:22:17.280 you do in the circus i was a flying trapeze artist and an aerialist nice okay was he like a lion tamer

00:22:26.160 no he was the general manager of like he was the gm okay was it an open relationship

00:22:33.120 no that was closed okay um you said that there were i forgot exactly what you said but there were

00:22:41.120 uh things that you were looking for that as you got older what were those like new things i guess

00:22:47.680 that you were looking for that he wasn't fulfilling um well i guess because he was much older than me he was

00:22:59.840 a little bit more set in his ways and i i guess i didn't completely agree with his ways yeah what

00:23:09.440 can you give us like one or two examples like um what was the ways he was set in well i mean

00:23:17.600 like when we go out and our friends are our friends are much older or like closer to his age and

00:23:23.600 as a 19 year old is a little bit hard to relate and i was felt kind of excluded or

00:23:32.240 like not quite understanding what was going on like at that maturity level okay was there ever

00:23:39.200 a disagreement between who wanted kids and who no i think we both wanted kids actually i was engaged to

00:23:46.640 him but then then i realized um i haven't i like didn't really date before him so i didn't really

00:23:56.400 know what i wanted okay so you needed that freedom of exploration it seems like something similar yeah

00:24:03.760 i didn't really explore much okay okay yeah do you ever open the story with like yeah i got into

00:24:11.440 relationships and started sleeping with my boss at the circus like i mean that's kind of funny right

00:24:17.920 it's kind of i mean it is kind of funny yeah no i never tell people that i mean okay but yeah i usually

00:24:26.800 when i mention anything about about the circus um then i get like pretty flooded with questions

00:24:32.160 because i know it's pretty unusual what okay question for for like any guy or girl looking to date

00:24:40.880 somebody who works in the circus like is there a certain like stay away from the like the flame

00:24:46.800 eaters like what what's the best oh yeah that's a good question okay um the guys that do like the

00:24:54.400 the ones on the motorcycles like the the wheel of death that one and like oh we're like we're like

00:25:01.200 the guys are in the motorcycle that one they're usually like adrenaline junkies and the one where is

00:25:07.360 it the wheel of death where they're like spinning like and there's two like circles and it's there's

00:25:13.600 two people like one at the top and it's spinning and they're on the motorcycle right um these guys are

00:25:18.320 like jump roping oh okay those guys are also like adrenaline junkies so okay then yeah but what about

00:25:23.840 like the the sword dudes or like the flame people are they cool or they're like yeah they're they're

00:25:30.880 like tame were there dwarves no i didn't work in like that kind of circus it was mostly like the

00:25:37.600 aerial performances no fire stuff no fire stuff sword stuff sword stuff yeah but i was more in like

00:25:45.360 i was a i was a flying trapeze artist so we didn't it's weird like we don't like really hang out with who's

00:25:51.760 at the top who's at the top of the echelon in the circus game to me it's the guys that do straps

00:25:59.360 straps what is that it's like not like bondage no i mean like uh maybe not for dating but like

00:26:11.200 or maybe i was just for career like who's the to me the guys that do straps straps yeah it's like

00:26:17.760 an apparatus that has like two straps hanging and usually there's like a loop for your hands like

00:26:23.680 your hands to go through or sometimes it's your feet um and it's just like pure strength so you don't

00:26:30.320 usually see women doing it okay it's like a lot of it's like a more like a guy's apparatus got it uh

00:26:37.520 what about your relationship status um it's like so complicated because i have a kid so my kid's dad

00:26:45.360 i don't want to be in the relationship anymore but he wants to so i kind of i don't know i don't

00:26:53.920 really talk to people but you don't want to be in the i don't want to be in there you guys are

00:26:58.960 married or no we were like engaged but like when i was pregnant i found out like he cheated and then

00:27:05.360 yeah i was on mother's day i caught him mother's day nice ah and you have just one kid yeah okay and

00:27:11.120 do you share custody um well he like just moved out of my place and got his own place so okay you

00:27:17.680 so you kicked him out because he he still wanted to be in the relationship okay yeah you kicked him

00:27:22.080 out and you were with you were dancing while you were with him still um i met him at the club and

00:27:26.320 then like he kind of got like mad about it so i like i stopped and like he took care of me and stuff

00:27:30.560 like when i didn't work but like the whole like cheating thing i was like not for that because like

00:27:35.360 you're cheating on me while i was pregnant and then i found out like for like the first four months

00:27:39.200 of my kid's life he was like doing it so it was just a lot so i was like i can't do this anymore

00:27:44.080 and plus like i'm older than him so i like i know what i want in life and like i don't think he really

00:27:47.680 has it figured out so i'm kind of like i'm like very focused on what my goals are for this year and

00:27:51.760 like how long have you been with him uh we were together for two years all right is that your

00:27:56.240 longest relationship all right got it uh what about you i am in a relationship and my longest relationship

00:28:04.720 was two years before this all right how long is this relationship eight months but we were best

00:28:11.120 friends for two years before so it's kind of like a okay sure got it what about you uh i am

00:28:18.400 single my last relationship was in 2018 we dated for four years um and i lived with him for a little

00:28:25.200 bit all right two years and you said you've been single since 2018 yeah so like seven seven years ago

00:28:31.680 i did talk to a boy on discord for two years that was interesting how did you meet him

00:28:38.880 what forum so there's this uh discord server called daddy discord wait and it's uh it's called daddy

00:28:46.400 discord daddy yeah um so it's a server with tons of public channels

00:28:55.280 public tons of public voice channels where you have 10 people in a call and then you can go hop down to

00:29:00.560 another one that could only have five all over the world um so we met in there um okay but you

00:29:06.800 never met in person no actually wait so he kind of showed up to my house he like oh i blocked him

00:29:13.920 and uh he got my grandmother's phone number

00:29:18.480 so he did he live in the same town as you or did he come to your town in california so we went from

00:29:23.120 california to michigan yeah it was wild it was wild all right uh but so you've been single for seven

00:29:30.080 years since about 2018 uh have there have you had any short term anything with any guys in that time

00:29:35.280 period um no i always keep an eye out though wait have you been celibate for seven years no oh you so

00:29:42.800 you've had flings and stuff yeah when when's the last fling that you had yesterday last week um

00:29:52.320 september september september okay is that over though yeah okay all right what about you um

00:29:59.680 let's see here so the longest relationship that i've been in was about a year and eight months and

00:30:05.680 it was very off and on we broke up quite a few times um i would say in total i've been in about three

00:30:12.160 decently serious relationships i see okay and you are a virgin yes there we go 24 year old virgin yep

00:30:19.520 it's good no four year old virgin adorable i've never met a virgin i'm curious you've never met a

00:30:24.640 virgin before would any of you that's great a virgin going around the table would you date a virgin yeah

00:30:34.080 preferably not ouch

00:30:38.800 yeah probably not yeah yeah yeah i don't think so

00:30:47.120 uh yes because i'm also celibate so oh thank you

00:30:54.560 wait what yes okay all right you okay so you're you're a virgin or are you just celibate i'm just

00:31:00.240 celibate okay gotcha fantastic yeah very interesting all right uh now i know who to grill on this but

00:31:06.880 no i'm just kidding please don't i'm totally all right uh andrew relationship status

00:31:11.760 uh i'm married all right rock and roll cool so that's everybody's status uh we have a couple

00:31:21.520 chats here that i'm gonna let come through uh touch my blade he sent this in uh what yesterday touch my

00:31:29.520 blade it came in like right at the end of the stream so we missed it thank you for all your patronage

00:31:33.120 yesterday man appreciate it we have a question here from

00:31:38.000 much duke glock tape use the i donated two hundred dollars

00:31:41.680 would you rather have a high profile job

00:31:44.560 oh my god

00:31:47.120 one hundred thousand dollars a year

00:31:49.440 also what's the least amount of money you would buzz your hair off for

00:31:55.360 wow okay i need to fix that i don't know why okay um so the question would you rather have a

00:32:04.320 high profile job with no pay or clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars a year uh let's do that

00:32:08.800 one first then we can do the other one starting with you michaela i don't i don't know you gotta

00:32:16.080 pick you have if you have to pick one so the status or the money essentially

00:32:21.280 um i i think i'd clean sewers for a hundred thousand okay i'd clean sewers for a hundred

00:32:28.800 thousand okay yeah i'd clean the sewers okay well what's the pay of the other one like it's just

00:32:36.720 i'll repeat terrible here it's would you rather have a high profile job with no pay so you make

00:32:42.960 zero i pick or clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars a year pick the high so for example high

00:32:47.440 profile job you might be like a you'd be a doctor or an attorney or something like that but you don't

00:32:52.720 get paid anything and you work full-time okay you pick that what about you i'll do the sewers

00:32:57.520 sewers okay i'd clean sewers sewers okay i don't know i feel kind of conflicted because i feel like

00:33:02.960 if you have a high profile job you can like network and then get paid like doing some side things but

00:33:08.400 if that's not an option then i guess clean sewers she found a loophole there's the loop yeah the loophole

00:33:13.040 i don't know if i would pan out but what about you no actually i agree with her from the marketing

00:33:16.880 perspective like you could definitely make money off of that just like make a tick tock or something

00:33:21.520 i don't accept this loophole i reject the loophole it's you can't do the side hustle is the high

00:33:27.920 profile job something where you're helping people because then it's a combination of money versus

00:33:32.960 like aiding people like you said a doctor if you clean sewers you're helping people that's

00:33:37.200 helping a lot of people that's a noble job you're picking for money though you said it's a hundred

00:33:41.760 thousand dollars versus a high profile job no money that's the question so if it's a doctor

00:33:46.480 versus sewers yes doctor sure doctor versus i would rather help people for no money than

00:33:51.680 get paid a lot of money to clean cool what about you i do the high profile um because it's testing

00:33:58.640 your brain i'd say all right it's fun brandon what about you i love money but i can't clean sewers for

00:34:04.160 the rest of my life so yeah but you're gonna be broke brandon i dude it's sad you want kids you

00:34:08.800 want a family i would i'd have to take the i'd have to take the status of it you're gonna so you

00:34:14.400 just because i assume i'd be able i wouldn't be living on the street right you you i mean you're

00:34:18.960 not making any money oh i so i'd have to live with my parents again you gotta live with your parents

00:34:23.600 or you gotta marry you gotta marry sugar mama okay if i'm completely broke so i would i would have to

00:34:32.640 clean the sewers i see okay oh and then really quick on this one he asked a second quick what's the

00:34:37.840 least amount of money you would buzz your hair off for starting with michaela so buzz shorter

00:34:45.200 than my hair just i mean see the sides the whole head that's how short um probably yeah

00:34:54.640 i don't know this is a great question for 10k well done um 10k 10k i don't know 100 100k yeah

00:35:05.680 probably okay probably 100k 100k i've been thinking about it actually so probably like 50k

00:35:12.800 50k bare minimum okay least amount to buzz your hair off probably 100k 100k yeah 100k

00:35:19.280 okay i used to be bald so no no was that when you were in the circus yeah i just wanted to see

00:35:28.560 what i look like like bald so was it like a britney spears moment no that's what everyone

00:35:32.960 always asks you know i just wanted to see like it's more aerodynamic i'm sure yeah no it's like velcro

00:35:38.480 nice everything sticks so how much um i don't want to do it again so probably like a lot of i don't

00:35:45.120 know how much 100k 100k all right what about you um yeah i've also shaved my head like twice in my

00:35:50.240 life before so all right there you go how much right now probably like 50 000 i'll do it all

00:35:57.760 right i agree with that 50k all right 200k because i wouldn't leave the house for two years

00:36:05.280 also you can buy a wig brandon how much would you buzz your head i would personally take like

00:36:12.800 five thousand dollars and then i would just wear one of those george washington wigs around for the

00:36:17.440 entire time so yeah the price is pretty low i think my head would look pretty good shaved not terribly

00:36:23.280 okay but i do like my hair that's cool all right uh we have two more coming through here oh andrew how

00:36:28.240 much would you uh shave your buzz not shave buzz your hair off for if i could do it for free if it was

00:36:35.120 hot enough outside this is totally unimportant to me someone was like here's five thousand bucks

00:36:41.440 if you buzz your head i don't care it grows back yeah i've i've uh asked this question before and

00:36:46.800 we've had some women who wouldn't even do it for a mil and i was like that's crazy because like you

00:36:51.200 could get a really nice wig they're coping and they're full of it come on yeah there's no way

00:36:55.440 it was like here's a million dollars cash if you buzz your head all these chicks would buzz their head

00:36:59.760 immediately well i tried to explain it like okay let's think about it okay what's your job okay you make

00:37:03.520 twenty dollars an hour uh you would have to work like 20 years to make a million dollars like you're not

00:37:08.800 going to do it i guess if they're making tons off of of of though the hair is making the money but i

00:37:14.400 guess they could get the wig they can still get the wig all right we have another another one from uh

00:37:19.120 oh boy arch okay oh my god do you block take you this guy don't know if you came out oh my god

00:37:27.600 i'm sorry president of the usa president of the usa plus if trump never became president

00:37:33.520 president president i'm sorry powers germany 1w2 would you take that trade that's an amazing

00:37:43.040 question here i'm gonna have to probably re-trigger your hand i'm not sure why all right were you guys

00:37:49.520 able to understand that or okay here i'll play one thank you arch duke hopefully it doesn't do it

00:37:54.320 again duke glockte views vi donated two hundred dollars if trump came out as trans would you accept

00:38:01.680 him as the first woman president of the usa plus if trump never became president but it meant the

00:38:08.000 axis powers germany won world war ii would you take that trade uh okay so first question we'll start

00:38:15.280 with the first and then we'll come back to the second if trump came out as trans would you accept

00:38:18.960 him as the first woman president of the united states michaela yeah sure okay that's very sure yeah

00:38:23.520 that's good yeah unfortunately yes unfortunately yes okay that would be a great like step forward

00:38:29.360 for women i think but what about you no no you wouldn't accept there's only two genders okay there

00:38:36.240 you go what about you yeah you would accept him as the first woman president okay sure sure okay um i'll

00:38:43.760 accept but it depends on what's his what's going to be like his stance moving forward with the trans

00:38:48.000 people because right now it's like yeah very controversial so i would not you wouldn't why

00:38:54.800 um well he's trans so okay sorry he would be trans so he would be considered a trans woman but i don't

00:39:03.200 think that that would make him the first woman president okay all right what about you samson you

00:39:08.400 wouldn't be the first woman president okay yeah that's a dude okay all right and then the second

00:39:15.040 part um the second question is if trump never became president but it meant the axis powers so like

00:39:22.800 germany italy japan uh they won world war ii would you take the trade what does that mean it's trying to

00:39:32.320 figure out if you hate trump or not it's saying would you accept nazi germany versus trump exactly

00:39:38.560 like so if if you could make the trade like wow you guys just oh my god no i get it you guys both made

00:39:45.760 it worse how do we both make it work wait it's because you you uh i forgot what the term is you guys

00:39:52.720 whatever okay you added other qualifiers oh now it's just more confusing you added other qualifiers

00:39:59.280 which may warp warp people's responses but um so okay starting with michaela i guess

00:40:05.520 she doesn't even know what she's answering yeah to be honest

00:40:10.880 i don't know so it's like trump never became president trump doesn't but the entailment of that so

00:40:19.040 he never became president but it meant like time machine germany won world war ii

00:40:25.600 italy like he is the president so why i'm just gonna no but it's a hypothetical yeah so okay then

00:40:32.800 i just accept him being president over that all right what about you i wouldn't take the trade

00:40:36.160 wouldn't take the trade no wouldn't take wouldn't take the trade no no okay no no no no

00:40:42.560 there you go all right you got her attention yeah no what okay all right i can't read it oh okay uh

00:40:52.160 and then uh let's see we have lucas here andrew am i wrong looks like you've dropped a

00:40:58.720 ton of weight looking good brother should be able to make it to newark

00:41:01.760 new jersey debate will be fun watching ftfe get the sank snake treatment

00:41:06.480 that's really funny because there's tons of people who are going over to a modern day debate

00:41:13.920 who paid for tickets and they paid for uh the vip and everything else because they want to see me

00:41:19.680 over there debating you should tell james that he should give all of that money to me and keep none of

00:41:26.720 it since i filled his seats up just to piss him off it'll be good for james all right nice very cool

00:41:34.000 very cool all right so uh let's see here we're gonna get into some of the pre-show actually let's

00:41:40.640 do a react uh damien let's do that first twitter react do you know which one i'm talking about the

00:41:47.920 very first one not the groups the first one oh yeah yeah let's get that pulled up all right guys so

00:41:56.800 this tweet went viral it was like a month ago back in december but uh all right so first date ever

00:42:02.560 tonight absolutely bricking it wish us luck ladies and gentlemen click the photo all right and so uh

00:42:09.200 he he has flowers going on the first date with flowers you can x out of that uh and then the uh

00:42:15.840 the tweet went viral though got like i don't know 100 million views on twitter people were debating

00:42:20.880 whether uh in today's day and age like is it kind of lame to bring a girl flowers uh so going around the

00:42:27.760 table what do you guys think do you think uh it's kind of sweet for a guy to bring girls flowers on

00:42:33.840 the first date is he maybe kind of trying too hard doing too much a little extra starting with mikayla

00:42:39.440 what do you think um i i feel like it depends on how long attractive the guys no okay how like how

00:42:49.120 long how how long i've been talking to him like beforehand say you met him on discord if

00:42:56.480 no flowers no flowers no flowers okay disregard the discord thing what about you i think it's really

00:43:04.240 sweet okay if he brings flowers okay um i don't really care for flowers maybe if there's like money

00:43:11.280 wrapped around them all right what about you uh i would love flowers i'm curious of why you said you

00:43:21.520 wouldn't like flowers um i feel like like if i've known him for a while like we were friends

00:43:29.680 beforehand and then he was like okay i want to take you on a date and he brought flowers i feel like

00:43:33.840 that's fine but i don't know somebody that i like don't know

00:43:39.840 bringing like i would feel weird because i don't have anything for him either so

00:43:43.840 like it'd be weird if he brought me something and i didn't have anything

00:43:47.200 do you feel like it needs to be transactional like why can't somebody just give you something

00:43:53.280 just for the sake of giving yeah i guess that's true that's fair enough okay i think it's really

00:44:00.720 sweet i love flowers like it's better than him coming empty-handed all right yeah i think it's sweet

00:44:08.320 i'll accept them mm-hmm yeah i'd appreciate flowers i think that's really cute it shows that he made

00:44:15.760 effort so yes mm-hmm yes but i think they should gift house plants instead they live longer i agree

00:44:23.840 with that actually yeah there you go brandon what do you think flowers no flowers i have never brought

00:44:29.760 flowers on a first date but i don't know if i was feeling really romantic it might happen but we would

00:44:38.320 have had to have talked for a while before that i i have a funny first date yeah really quick

00:44:44.800 before i have you go into that and has anybody here gotten flowers on a first date yes yeah

00:44:50.880 multiple times michaela wow now yeah yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yes yeah yes no no damn somebody

00:45:00.000 help out uh oh i'm mikaela yeah help them out with some flowers or some shit i've actually

00:45:07.840 i've you've gotten flowers a girl brought me flowers i've done that and then a girl a different

00:45:16.320 girl this way it wasn't the first date though she brought me flowers i don't know it's like a couple

00:45:21.200 days in but first date a girl brought me flowers i was like okay cool did it what do i do it go any

00:45:27.760 further than that uh did it go and what was your original reaction to that uh i mean it was like

00:45:35.840 endearing but it was like but then you were you carrying around the flowers for the whole day

00:45:41.760 i didn't know what to do so you were just carrying them around uh no well we stopped somewhere so it

00:45:47.680 was like yeah i wasn't carrying them though he put them in his hair yeah i put one in my

00:45:53.120 right here yeah men deserve flowers too yeah that's right i think women should bring flowers

00:45:59.120 on not the men the women should bring flowers on the first date you got something shelby go ahead

00:46:03.200 um a guy brought me well he brought me cat treats on the first date because i have cats and that's kind

00:46:12.640 of what sparked our conversation so he was really i thought it was really sweet he brought cat treats

00:46:18.240 for my cats okay yeah i think that that's that's valid he brought like meow mix no yeah they were

00:46:25.440 actually like from amazon and they were like amazon wrapped and like in a gift oh okay that's cool

00:46:30.800 there was like a lot of thought put into it wow good times yeah good times all right i received a road

00:46:36.000 bike on a first date nice because they found out that i was training for a triathlon i thought you don't

00:46:42.800 date the like the biker guys though wrote like a road bike like a triathlon yeah i got mixed i got

00:46:49.040 my wires crossed there those are expensive those are like it was brand new or it was okay actually it

00:46:54.960 was used it was like his ex-wives or something oh wow very very romantic that's good yeah first date

00:47:03.520 wait how bad would it be i definitely didn't do this so i told you guys how on the first date a

00:47:09.520 girl brought me flowers on the first date what if i re-gifted those to another like another girl

00:47:17.200 that i was going i was going on the first date that's something you have to live with i don't

00:47:21.280 think it would last is that valid that would be crazy i'm just saying what what if i did that i mean

00:47:27.520 she wouldn't know i guess you could get away with it if it lasts till then you know like if somebody

00:47:31.360 gives you a toaster and you don't need a toaster you just gift it to somebody else it's like

00:47:35.600 i don't need flowers what if you started dating and then you know years down the line you have

00:47:40.160 to tell her that those flowers that she thought were so sweet were actually from another girl oh

00:47:44.640 i thought you meant what do i say to the to our children to the first girl who gave me the flowers

00:47:50.720 yeah i would tell our kids that yeah your mom gave me flowers and then i gave them away to another girl

00:47:56.560 that's really romantic actually it'd be more romantic if i was dating the other woman who i gave

00:48:02.960 the flowers too because then like i picked her over the flower girl

00:48:08.960 all right tough crowd how about your mother that's fantastic yeah uh were we going around

00:48:15.840 the table on the flower thing oh shelby did you have something or did you already i already talked

00:48:20.800 oh you already it was the cat treats oh the cat treats okay god andrew your thoughts on the flower thing

00:48:25.760 should a guy bring a girl flowers on the first date andrew

00:48:32.320 i mean i guess if he wants to i don't really see well again though i don't really see why

00:48:37.920 women in modernity deserve any type of chivalry i don't i still don't understand that

00:48:43.520 i still haven't heard a compelling argument for the idea that for some for some reason you deserve

00:48:48.960 equality and status it's like that's not how that works so uh i i don't think so i don't think the

00:48:56.080 men should probably bring women anything on a first date to be honest with you i think it's a bad idea

00:49:02.800 i'm with michaela on this i don't believe

00:49:06.480 is that how you got your wife by not giving her flowers

00:49:12.320 yeah w w's in the chapter andrew and he's the only one here who's married

00:49:19.040 yeah boom how about that how about them maybe if you didn't want flowers you'd be married

00:49:24.480 i'm 21 so i would rather not be married right now thank you i mean it's yeah well i mean if you keep

00:49:29.760 demanding flowers it's gonna be 41. i never demanded anything i've never demanded anything i've just

00:49:35.520 had very sweet boyfriends what are your cat's name's gonna be anyway fluffy

00:49:41.680 i don't really think it's smart to have a cat on a boat do you think you gotta give people names like

00:49:46.800 chuck you're kind of like chuck and fred you're gonna give your cat people names you're gonna be

00:49:50.880 people named cats that's a very great question please ask me in five years when i'm 26 and

00:49:57.760 apparently washed up 20 who said 26 what are you talking about you're saying that because i'm 21 and

00:50:03.840 not married that's you know me thinking that flowers are sweet are the reason for that that's

00:50:08.560 idiotic that does not make any sense i'm not saying i demand flowers i'm saying that

00:50:12.720 a gentleman i know i know that a perfectly good joke i know a perfectly good joke can hurt your

00:50:17.280 feelings for no particularly good reason even though i'm clearly kidding but perhaps you can

00:50:22.560 take a take a breath and actually respond to my argument instead so here's here's my action here's

00:50:28.080 my actual position my actual position is that chivalry gives women additional status that men do not

00:50:35.200 receive therefore if women want egalitarianism or equality they don't deserve additional status

00:50:41.280 you see that's my actual status i understand what you're saying i want to understand it further

00:50:47.920 so what do you mean by status okay well uh men get on the lifeboats last men are expected to protect

00:50:56.160 women men are expected to not hit women back men are expected to go to frontline warfare and combat and

00:51:01.360 draft women or not the list is endless in fact of the statuses which women get in society that men do not

00:51:07.840 do to a uh this idea of chivalry which is hundreds of years old now which has carried over when women

00:51:16.400 were given this special status in society because men had the authority now that men do not have that

00:51:21.680 authority and women are equal why do women deserve this chivalric status why do they deserve it i don't see

00:51:27.520 why they do so you believe that kind gestures like flowers are comparable to front lines in the war

00:51:33.120 can you just repeat back what i said so i know that you got it i heard what you said what you were

00:51:39.360 saying is that then repeat it back to me so that i know what that i then i know you understand what

00:51:43.360 i'm saying okay that's my actual position on this how i understood it which you can correct me if i'm

00:51:49.280 wrong in my understanding was that you see the fact that you know men have a lower position in society

00:51:56.640 compared to women right when it comes to the fact that women are not going to be drafted that men have

00:52:02.880 other you know issues that they have to deal with that women are kind of put back for women do not

00:52:09.680 you know have to be expected to let their man first get on the lifeboat if there's you know of ship that's

00:52:14.960 sinking i understand what you're saying but i don't understand how a kind action of somebody giving you

00:52:21.680 flowers is comparable to the issues that men have to go right on a day-to-day basis i guess men are kinder

00:52:28.480 than women if you expect that men then will bring you flowers and you don't i don't expect it i do

00:52:33.280 think that that is you know fair to say that it is a kind gentleman to bring you flowers i can agree

00:52:38.000 it would be a kind woman who brought and i have also brought yeah i've also brought my boyfriend

00:52:42.800 flowers that there's no argument you guys be competing over who's kinder then and on the first

00:52:46.960 date shouldn't the woman be bringing the man flowers to show how kind she is that's fair i have done that

00:52:52.000 on a first date it's a respect thing it's it's showing how many times on the first date have you

00:52:56.160 brought flowers versus you have flowers brought to you okay well so you're just meaner than all the

00:53:02.000 men you date aren't you just say andrew by my own logic i'm meaner than all of the men i date because

00:53:09.360 i don't bring them flowers and they bring me flowers there's different ways to show affection

00:53:14.400 rather than just gifts you can show affection through acts of service whether that's you know cooking

00:53:20.000 them a meal whether that's you know setting up the date itself whether that's you know them teaching

00:53:25.760 you a new skill you teaching them a new skill i've taken people on dates where i've taught them how to

00:53:30.640 ride motorcycles or to sail or that sounds like an exchange i thought you were talking about acts of

00:53:35.760 kindness so if you're talking about acts of kindness and not an exchange and you say it's a

00:53:39.680 very kind thing for people to show up and give me flowers well wouldn't it be and it's a very kind

00:53:43.920 thing if you show up and give them flowers then why is it that more men are being more kind to you

00:53:48.160 than you are to them can you explain that why is it a competition between who's kinder why isn't it

00:53:53.360 you're the one who made it a competition because you said it's an act of kindness and gentlemanly men

00:53:58.720 should do it okay i was saying that i was saying that it was kind when men do do this you know when

00:54:03.840 men do give flowers that is an act of generosity that is an act and more men have brought you flowers

00:54:10.800 than you've brought men flowers so therefore by that logic men are way kinder to you than you are to

00:54:16.880 men yeah so do i have to can answer my question can you answer my question by your logic if it's

00:54:23.760 kind to bring flowers and more men bring you flowers and you bring men flowers then men are

00:54:28.800 kinder to you than you're kind to men is that correct or not correct it's flawed logic oh okay how

00:54:35.920 because it's not whether or not you know i brought them flowers or they brought me flowers it's them doing

00:54:42.240 something that is kind towards me right which yes in that scenario that would be them being kinder

00:54:49.120 on the first date however i have not dated that many men and i have not you know exchanged flowers

00:54:56.000 with that many men that's not like something oh it's a tuesday i'm gonna go on a date so i can get

00:55:00.240 flowers like that is an evil intention to just use men for a purpose like that yes have men given me more

00:55:06.400 flowers than i've given them sure does that mean that i am cruel because i don't know what that has

00:55:11.760 to do with anything i'm just utilizing your metric i'm not saying you're an unkind person i don't

00:55:15.760 understand i'm just saying that men are really kinder to you i'm not saying you're an unkind

00:55:20.000 person i'm not saying you're mean i'm not saying you're cruel i'm not saying any of those things

00:55:23.920 i'm just saying that if it is the case that flowers equals kindness and kind act and more men bring

00:55:30.160 you flowers than you bring them then they started acting kindly towards you then you're acting towards

00:55:34.960 them that i can that i can agree with they were kinder to me in the beginning that is fair that is

00:55:39.920 a fair assessment now does that mean that you know what you're saying is that i you you started with

00:55:45.200 you know i am crueler to men than men are to me that men are kinder to me than i am to them

00:55:50.400 that's not a fair assumption you know but are you saying that they did a kinder gesture to

00:55:54.960 no what i'm saying is very simple is that if you if you demand these additional statuses

00:55:59.600 in society like men have the chivalry i don't demand the gentlemanly men open my car door

00:56:06.640 and gentlemanly men will bring me flowers gentlemanly men will pay for the first day

00:56:10.880 with respect hold on hold on you gotta let them finish then you can respond and then i'll let you

00:56:14.960 talk i promise just relax okay gentlemanly men will do all of these things for me right that's very

00:56:20.800 nice of them to do all those things for that you what are you doing for them well you're not doing

00:56:24.800 anything because well that's what gentlemanly men do so you're putting yourself at

00:56:28.800 at a status you're giving yourself additional status that men don't have and what i'm saying is

00:56:33.760 like why the fuck should they do that that sounds really stupid if women are indeed equal to men

00:56:38.720 why waste their time makes no sense that's fair and that is not how i am you know if men are doing all

00:56:44.720 these things right i know how to fix i i live on a sailboat right so i've learned how to fix my boat

00:56:49.760 i've created this future for my future partner where we can travel around the world and i will be able to

00:56:55.600 fix the engine which i just did last week i had to fix my heat exchanger i can do my own septic my

00:57:01.280 plumbing i can do my own woodworking i have fixed many things on my boat and i'm continuing to learn

00:57:07.280 those skills so that it is an equal partnership now you're saying men are expected to do all these

00:57:12.160 things i'm not expecting a man to do all these things and i just sit back and act like some helpless

00:57:16.240 damsel in distress you can do your own woodworking yes i can i actually am a woodworker

00:57:20.480 yeah do you use a wood lathe no i do not use woodlay how do you how do you you don't use a

00:57:26.800 wood lathe do you use a router no i do not i have a you don't use a router what do you use to do

00:57:32.080 woodworking i use a hand saw or a circular saw i use how do you act well how are you working the

00:57:40.560 wood with a circular saw what are you talking about that's not woodworking that's wood cutting

00:57:45.520 that's not woodworking do you know what we're working yes i do i do woodwork on a sailboat it's

00:57:51.520 different it's okay i you've i don't know what you want from me you just i'm just very confused

00:57:57.520 i thought you were a woodworker i don't know that's not my profession but it is something that

00:58:01.440 i'm learning how to do in order to take care of my sailboat which i can then provide that lifestyle

00:58:07.600 for my partner so just because i don't what okay okay i've had to fix multiple things on my boat

00:58:15.440 right like i had to create a table okay so i had to learn how to um take the wood and sand it to the

00:58:22.400 right shape right i had to learn how to cut things i had to use different saws i had to use you know

00:58:28.160 different um like linseed oil right to to protect it i've had to use different um you know i've had to

00:58:35.200 basic maintenance basic basic woodworking is my knowledge so far i never said i was an expert

00:58:41.200 i'm saying i'm learning yeah i mean that that's not even basic woodworking it's just basic maintenance

00:58:46.640 but yeah i mean fair enough i'm just saying uh i'm just curious like i'm just asking when you say i do

00:58:52.160 woodworking how you do woodworking what do you do woodworking with i'm just curious that's all okay

00:58:56.800 yeah and i'm learning still it's not like i'm a carpenter you know like i don't i'm not that level

00:59:02.800 i'm in marketing like i'm learning how to do these things on my own now if you ask me about septic i

00:59:08.160 can tell you a lot because i had to fix mine last month but you know it's it's not like i'm a

00:59:13.200 professional so do i expect men to do everything for me no i'm learning how to take care of myself

00:59:19.760 and so that i can also help my partner understand and learn and take care of these things as well

00:59:25.040 i don't expect men to save me i do appreciate a man who is a gentleman but that doesn't mean that i am

00:59:31.760 expecting every man to care for me like a child you know and i don't like you agree with me then

00:59:36.800 that there's no good reason for men to give women but flowers is a gesture of kindness that's a

00:59:41.840 gesture that's a gesture of respect it's not an issue of you can't show people respect unless you

00:59:47.440 open their door and give them flowers i never i never said that i expect everything isn't it a better

00:59:51.600 bigger sign of respect to treat you exactly as an equal wouldn't that be the biggest sign of respect

00:59:56.800 i do agree with that and so like i said i've given this evil status of toxic femininity that's where

01:00:03.440 they demand additional status in society that they don't deserve when we should be treating them like

01:00:08.720 the equals they demand we try so so what is your definition of toxic femininity what what do you

01:00:13.280 mean by that what is you know a demand for additional statuses based on old chivalric codes that are

01:00:18.480 undeserved when you at the same time demand equality so i would say toxic femininity is the demand of

01:00:24.160 schrodinger's feminists who claim here's a schrodinger's feminist you are both the biggest

01:00:29.120 victim on planet earth while at the same time the most badass entitled or badass woman on planet earth

01:00:34.640 uh and depending on what circumstance you're in you'll use either one of those either you're

01:00:39.280 super oppressed or you're you're badass that's schrodinger's feminist that's fair what toxic

01:00:43.280 thought femininity is toxic femininity is just saying look uh if you're demanding additional

01:00:48.800 statuses in society while you're demanding equality in society then you're not demanding

01:00:53.840 equality in society you're demanding status i i agree with that and and you know back to your

01:00:59.040 original point of the flowers i said that it was a kind gesture i've also given men flowers so i do

01:01:04.080 think that you know there are certain things that are conflicting when it comes to you know feminism

01:01:09.520 and you know wanting to be treated higher than rather than equal because feminism originally was for

01:01:14.720 equality i do agree with you there um and and that's not a point that i'm arguing with you on

01:01:19.920 obviously like i i believe feminine femininity and feminism you know in the olden day sense is

01:01:26.800 better than what it's turned into i believe that you know if it wasn't it was just it was it was even

01:01:31.760 worse it was even women imagine this like can you imagine that women and this is the truth women had

01:01:39.360 serious societal status and now they're they're told to compete with men it's stupid it's like it's

01:01:46.320 dumbest thing ever they had real societal status and they took all that status away from themselves

01:01:51.520 so that they could be equal to men who they can't be equal with it's the dumbest thing i've ever heard

01:01:55.120 in my life what is status if not freedom why would you trade status for freedom i believe that you

01:02:00.960 should want to be able to be your own person now the the time freedom to do what freedom to be an

01:02:07.520 individual in the olden days you had to be tied to a man you had to be tied to a husband

01:02:12.080 now is that me saying oh i hate men no i plan on having a husband sometime okay

01:02:19.920 there's no escaping being tied to men there's no escaping that like everything the whole building

01:02:24.080 you're in the streets you walk on the cars you drive everything that you do is tied to men there's

01:02:28.880 no there's no escape right and there should there should be you know a relationship that is equal

01:02:33.680 between man and woman i'm not saying that you should cut out men i'm not saying that women should

01:02:38.320 be lower or higher i'm saying that there should be an equal level between men and women men and

01:02:42.400 women have different places in society that they are why should they be equal why why should they be

01:02:48.560 equal because we are both human beings because we both have equality that is like saying that you

01:02:55.040 should treat one race different than the other you shouldn't treat a man versus a woman because

01:03:00.160 you're treating i'm back up back up back up back up okay you wouldn't be treating one race differently

01:03:05.280 than another right you'd be treating one sex right because you do agree with me that there's different

01:03:11.840 races who are the same sex who are women and men so so what men still have authority in society

01:03:17.680 right i'm sorry i'm sorry to cut you off in the middle of your long diatribe just want to clarify

01:03:22.240 if men have status or have authority in society and women have status in society that's fine but if

01:03:27.760 you want to trade that for equality you just you can't you can't bitch when you get it that's my point

01:03:35.280 what is the difference between you know treating somebody differently based on their race versus

01:03:40.080 based on their gender there should not be a difference we are all human beings so you should

01:03:44.720 treat us equal based on that that in of itself is the basis of humanity it's just an assertion we don't

01:03:51.920 treat each other equally at all men don't treat each other equally even slightly we have to we compete

01:03:56.160 with each other every single day seven days a week uh every single day of the year men are in

01:04:01.760 competition hang on hang on can i respond to what you just said yes sir if not then make sure that

01:04:08.160 you give me the high sign say i'm not done yet and i'll be quiet so if you want to continue go ahead

01:04:13.200 and finish and then i'll respond go ahead i was just going to say that maybe my viewpoint isn't how

01:04:17.200 society is actually based but it's a utopian viewpoint i i believe that people should be treated equal

01:04:23.040 not based on their gender not based on their race not based on anything else besides that they are

01:04:28.000 a human being so you may speak now that was all i wanted and that's and that's fine to treat people

01:04:32.720 equally if that's what your value is okay but then you can't ask for additional statuses because that

01:04:37.920 wouldn't be equal that's the point that's the purpose and the thing is is that women do ask for

01:04:42.640 additional statuses so here would be true equality you don't lower the training standards for police

01:04:47.360 officers because they're women you don't lower the training standards for soldiers because they're women

01:04:52.000 you don't lower the standards for flight school you don't lower the standards for any of these various

01:04:56.560 things that men are clearly much better at than women because they're women that would be true

01:05:02.000 equality when you come back to me and give me that then i'll believe that women don't want

01:05:07.520 additional statuses in society but right now sure seems like they do i believe that's fair and you

01:05:12.640 know my viewpoint might not be the same as every other woman in society but i do think that we should

01:05:16.720 be treated equally do you know what that would actually entail i do understand what that actually

01:05:23.280 would entail yes sir you would yes sir i do understand if a woman do you think that if a

01:05:31.040 woman smacks a guy that he should turn around and belt her across the mouth okay so smacking and belting

01:05:36.320 is not the same but i do yeah i know but there is a difference in strength it's okay for me to belt him

01:05:41.360 right there is a difference in strength between the average man and the average woman that is not

01:05:46.480 something that is disagreeable based on scientific evidence i'm not going to argue with that now i do

01:05:52.480 think that you know if you are in this utopian society where you are treating everyone equally

01:05:57.120 then that would be a situation that would occur now is that equality no because the man might be

01:06:01.440 stronger than the woman now that's still equality listen we if weaker men attack stronger men which

01:06:06.480 happens all the time nobody backs an eye if the stronger man beats up the weaker man so how is it that

01:06:11.440 you can logically say because women are weaker they then deserve the privilege of being able to hit men

01:06:16.080 without men hitting them back if the woman's hitting him hang on hang on if the woman's hitting him

01:06:20.560 at full strength for instance and he hits her back at full strength that would be equality

01:06:26.240 i mean i don't conzone violence like that domestic or i mean that's nice it has nothing right but i

01:06:32.240 understand what you're saying and i actually you know i do i do think that that would be you know

01:06:38.880 considered equality in that sense now do i think that it's okay to hit a woman do i think that you

01:06:43.840 should go around smacking women no but you know if you're saying okay a woman is being aggressive

01:06:50.320 towards a man and then a man is aggressive back that would be considered equal is it equal no there

01:06:55.680 is a difference in strength there you know and there's a difference between every human being on

01:07:00.560 planet earth that's true so no matter what there's always going to be somebody in the fight who's

01:07:05.920 stronger than the other person we don't say that you can't defend yourself because the other person is

01:07:09.520 weaker so the thing is is like if you really want equality and you want to know what that entails

01:07:14.640 that entails that women have to get screamed at by their bosses just like men do and they can't

01:07:19.760 complain about it and whine and cry about it it means that they're going to have to deal with coarse

01:07:24.720 jokes and things like this just like men do and they can't cry about it they can't whine about it

01:07:28.800 it means that they actually get treated like equals it means that when women put their hands all over men

01:07:33.680 and nobody bats an eyelash like at a party or something like this and nobody says that that sexual battery

01:07:39.200 that men need to begin to say that it is because that's what women say so the thing is is like

01:07:44.400 true equality i don't even think that if that women want it i don't believe you i literally don't

01:07:48.640 believe that women actually want it i don't even think they know what it entail what the entailment of

01:07:52.400 it is you don't have to believe me i do think it's wrong for a woman to sexually harass a man just

01:07:57.120 as it's wrong for a man to sexually harass a woman just as it's wrong for a man to hit a woman and

01:08:01.360 a woman to hit a man i don't believe that violence of any source is okay i don't think that you know

01:08:07.040 assaulting anyone is okay I don't care what your gender is or what you believe that it's not

01:08:12.700 are you gonna start advocating that women get drafted you know it's funny because I was planning

01:08:18.040 on signing up for the military after college that's not what I asked you you got to answer

01:08:21.860 the question though yes yes if that's equality you're gonna start you say so I can expect you

01:08:28.100 in protest soon demanding that women be drafted I'm not the type of person to protest but are you

01:08:35.320 going to demand that men also have a say over abortion and that they are also allowed to have

01:08:41.000 a say in what happens with what they're doing I am Christian so I don't really believe that

01:08:45.340 abortion is a right that somebody should have so yes I do think that if it's a male and a female's

01:08:50.480 you know it's sperm and egg right that does give the man some sort of you're Christian but believe

01:08:55.700 in equality it's that's a patristic faith it's patriarchal okay there well there's no okay I

01:09:01.980 mean I'm sorry who's who is God the father the mother God the father or the mother God yes God

01:09:10.320 is father right it was Jesus did Jesus Christ incarnate as a woman or a man as a man he incarnated

01:09:16.980 as a man and are priests referred to as father and are women allowed to be priests so that's that's a

01:09:23.100 different you know strain I I do believe that women can be in a place of you know they can hold

01:09:31.320 a place in in a religion so that's so clergy can represent the Christ head even though the Christ

01:09:36.020 head incarnated as a man that makes sense to you I think that God speaks through both men and women

01:09:40.640 here hold on but can can uh just just move things along a little bit can women be clergy

01:09:45.060 and what's your denomination yeah I'm not denominational I just follow the bible so I I

01:09:50.920 don't think that that pertains to me I I'm not qualified enough to answer that question that's

01:09:55.440 not my denomination okay well I just ask you one quick one then go ahead um were there so we have

01:10:00.660 God the father we have Jesus Christ who was incarnate was there a uh can you point to me to a female

01:10:06.940 apostle what was your name um I mean there were people that followed Jesus that were women there's

01:10:13.600 many signs of that in the bible so what was what was the apostle's name there was Mary Mary um what

01:10:24.280 she went Esther yep Esther yeah Esther okay yeah have you seen the chosen there's plenty of women

01:10:32.460 you know that's that's biblically accurate as well as they you know could do so there are plenty of

01:10:39.400 women referenced in the bible that did follow Jesus that did you know drop everything and follow him

01:10:44.460 and and he that's one of the things about Jesus is that he was fair to both men and women you know he

01:10:50.300 he allowed both to follow him and that was something that really really pissed off you know the the Jewish

01:10:56.240 rabbis was the fact that he did treat women well in comparison to where and what they were treated as

01:11:01.580 so I mean he allowed a woman who had had um multiple husbands to follow him so and and and to

01:11:10.880 give you some context I wasn't raised Christian you mean the woman that she said he said to go and sit

01:11:15.140 no more uh yes yes at the water at the fountain or at the um the well sorry I I also I became

01:11:21.440 Christian a year ago I wasn't raised with Christianity so you know I don't want to miss one I just want to

01:11:26.640 make sure I got this right though so we have it on record that you think that Mary and Esther were

01:11:31.820 apostles I'm not saying that they were apostles right there's the 12 apostles which were men I

01:11:36.020 understand that but I am saying they're followers of Christ okay that was what I was saying so why

01:11:40.460 that's not my what what was my question though I understand what your question was you asked if

01:11:46.260 there were any females that were apostles and there were not apostles yeah but that does not mean that

01:11:52.520 God does not speak to women or speak through women as well and so in Paul when Paul says that women are

01:11:59.500 not allowed to teach in church he was just lying there's a few things in the Bible that I'm still

01:12:05.040 coming to grasp and that I don't fully understand so I cannot give you my best answer on that because

01:12:11.540 again I've only been Christian for a year and it's something that I've been having to go through

01:12:15.440 you know I've been reading the Bible and so no I can't answer your question with all honesty and with

01:12:20.700 you know something backing that when I myself am a new why did you laugh when I said that

01:12:25.780 Christianity was a patristic and patriarchal faith I don't get that you were like you were like you

01:12:30.320 laughed at it and I'm like why are you laughing it's a patriarchal faith it always has been it's

01:12:34.720 from the father it's the fact that Jesus was kind to both men and women I'm not saying I'm talking

01:12:40.920 about being kind patriarchs are very kind what's wrong with what is I'm a patriarch therefore I'm mean

01:12:47.360 like is that the entailment of patriarchy is that they're just like mean to women he treated he okay

01:12:53.340 he treated women with respect right there were women who followed him that had a very vital role

01:12:58.960 within his discipleship and that's what I'm saying there now I I might not completely understand what

01:13:07.200 you're asking me then if you want to reclarify the question uh yeah uh you ready uh so in Christianity

01:13:14.440 men have the authority yeah what if they're the apostles they don't have the authority because

01:13:24.420 God needed to lead them because they didn't have their own discernment what's happened I when I read

01:13:31.040 Corinthians and it's I think Paul's in that it what I read is not it said don't marry um that you're

01:13:38.120 better off on your own is what I got out of it but that may be the men are the apostles because

01:13:43.200 they need more help from God like hold on Andrew before I have you address that we didn't get

01:13:49.320 an answer to his question what was his question again well he he made this well I don't know if

01:13:54.480 he made a statement is that uh Christianity it's patriarchal agree or disagree

01:13:59.760 define patriarchal go ahead from the father it is God is the father so yes I would agree with you there

01:14:10.860 it's patriarchal it's patriarchal it's from the father from the father meaning the father has the

01:14:14.620 ultimate authority I do and then we work with Jesus Christ who is the ultimate authority right

01:14:19.480 and so the Christ had the teacher the person who is leading your church this person is a representation

01:14:26.460 of Christ on earth that's why you can't have a woman be a be a priest or a pastor or whatever it

01:14:31.300 is that you consider clergy to be so the thing is is that ultimately the view of egalitarianism is not

01:14:38.160 compatible with the view of Christianity it can't be are you a Christian yes are you a Christian yeah

01:14:44.340 okay so then I mean genuinely like from my heart could you educate me on this topic then because

01:14:48.640 like I said I can we can't blog the entire podcast with it down but you can definitely reach out and I

01:14:54.480 can move you over to resources that can help you and assist you in this for sure because you've

01:14:58.840 been sold a hell of a bill of goods can you give me just a summary of what you believe you know

01:15:04.040 when it comes to the patriarchal yeah I'll do it super quick so that Brian can move the show on

01:15:08.440 right thank you because we've been we've been bogged down here so uh very quickly God he's the

01:15:13.860 father okay and you believe in the trinity I take it father son holy ghost all that stuff right okay

01:15:20.880 great so Jesus Christ he's one part of the Godhead well not part but he's one person of the garden

01:15:26.100 Godhead then the father one person of the Godhead uh when you the worshiper you're worshiping Jesus

01:15:32.340 Christ you are actually worshiping God right God the representation of God on earth with this

01:15:40.180 case Jesus Christ the Christ head is the priest in a marriage this isn't literally this is how it's

01:15:46.380 stated in marriage right the husband is the representation of the Christ head and the woman

01:15:53.400 the body of Christ the man has ultimate authority in the relationship has to be that way that is

01:16:00.320 under the divine authority which Christians believe that is the representation so all of these are

01:16:06.680 representations of what it is that Christians believe doesn't in the bible it say that men and

01:16:12.880 women are equally yoked yeah but yeah so they are and they are fully yoked so the thing is is that

01:16:20.560 just because a man is in authority and a woman is in this submitted position doesn't mean they're not

01:16:26.580 fully yoked together that's I mean that's just silly remember we have 2,000 years of church history

01:16:33.400 governing this we we know how marriage is always worked this idea of egalitarianism and equality is

01:16:39.420 brand new and the thing is is that if it was true equality you might have a point but women don't demand

01:16:45.540 real equality they demand higher social status and that men have lower social status and then they call

01:16:51.360 that equality and that to me is uh is bizarre and it has nothing to do with Christianity at all

01:16:57.520 all right we'll move it on then uh that was an inch that was an interesting back and forth

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01:18:43.120 chat here from uh meet the Kaiser uh meet the Kaiser what's up Brian glad to see you back Andrew good job

01:18:50.320 on peers good to see you too look at all these lovely Asian ladies tonight we got Chinese Japanese and even

01:18:56.000 trapeze uh there you go okay have have fun everybody cheers all right Kaiser W's in the chat for Kaiser

01:19:06.240 thank you man do appreciate it oh boy um this is going to be okay I'll let this one come in it's a

01:19:11.040 little uh live laugh toaster bath donated two hundred dollars question for the ladies answer honestly

01:19:17.840 please would you send 10 innocent men to prison for three years each if it prevented one guilty man

01:19:23.680 from uh from one guilty man from walking free who graped a woman yeah okay all right we'll do this

01:19:51.440 one quick then um starting with you Michaela no I wouldn't send innocent people okay no it's not

01:19:57.440 their crime no no no no no no can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table all right and you

01:20:08.480 might okay sorry where did we we said no no okay all right very reasonable all right that's great all

01:20:14.880 right there you go uh let's see here we're gonna get into uh some of the pre-show notes here we have

01:20:20.560 why don't we start with hmm who do we start with uh we'll start with it's my Lynn right yes okay uh

01:20:33.200 all right you said you haven't dated much uh and then let's see you've been you were uh you've been

01:20:40.400 single for seven months when you say you haven't dated much what do you mean every time I try to date

01:20:48.640 I end up in a relationship oh okay oh how many dates how many different guys have you dated I guess

01:20:58.800 like definitely less than 10 okay I've been in like a relationship since I was like 19 with like

01:21:08.880 a month or two of being single so this is like your longest wow like I'm always in a relationship

01:21:14.640 I don't know why okay but you've been single for seven months so this is like a pretty long break

01:21:19.600 yeah this is the longest all right and uh you said that you're not so enthusiastic about dating

01:21:25.040 because of past disappointments uh you said to be specific you feel like you tend to be the caregiver

01:21:31.200 or you end up with guys who use you uh when you say use you use you how

01:21:38.960 I like they're like broke and then I pay for a lot of stuff and then okay I also like

01:21:46.960 cook and clean for them and then buy their clothes and yeah stuff like that I have a question for you do you

01:21:56.000 think that the fact that you've run into that in multiple relationships says something about who

01:22:02.080 you are definitely I think it's um also cultural because I was raised like in a very strict Japanese

01:22:09.200 household just by my dad and so my sister and I took on a lot of like the more traditional female

01:22:16.640 roles and so in my adult life I kind of it carried on and I think it doesn't translate that well

01:22:26.640 in American culture so pretty much you it sounds to me like you're taking on the masculine role

01:22:32.800 correct I think so yeah okay maybe both wait when you say doesn't translate well what do you mean

01:22:39.440 well because what doesn't translate well the like in the Japanese culture um

01:22:46.160 like the women are a lot more traditional and they're a lot more docile and it's like a culture

01:22:53.520 I think most Asian cultures where um you're not supposed to like it's a sin to embarrass your family

01:23:01.520 and it's like it's a cut it's a culture where you serve

01:23:04.320 and I lived in also in China and like in Thailand and it's pretty much like that everywhere I've been

01:23:10.560 surf or serve serve serve yes I surf too though yeah yeah okay gotcha and so what what would that look

01:23:17.520 like so my previous relationship so I would do the cooking well I was also a chef so I was cooking

01:23:27.280 doing a lot of the cleaning um you know I remember like one of the last arguments we had was um

01:23:36.240 I didn't butter his toast how dare you and I I just said I'm sorry I I was busy I'm like I'm

01:23:44.480 I usually leave the house before him because I I work a lot and I have to leave at six did he scold you

01:23:49.840 yeah I mean he made like a joke but it's kind of like I kind of do a lot of stuff and now you're

01:23:55.200 like like I'm sorry I forgot to put so it's so it's did you then did you then butter the toast

01:24:00.560 though what did you butter the toast uh I think I like handed him the butter and I was like you

01:24:07.360 could do it yourself today oh man it sounds to me he's a lucky guy really he is did you say that

01:24:16.320 you were starting to take over the financial side of things as well too yeah I also helped him

01:24:21.280 financially so you're saying that you were so traditional but then at the same point at the

01:24:29.120 same time like it sounds like you have a previous history of dating just weak men in general that have

01:24:38.400 no okay I tried something different it doesn't sound like they're worthy of that behavior true

01:24:44.640 well okay so in the past I have like a history of dating like um like first responders and like

01:24:51.760 military and so and that didn't work out so I met this guy and I he was very different so I

01:24:58.880 gave it a shot you know I thought maybe I should try something different and um

01:25:05.920 yeah I don't I don't want to take on those roles interesting okay so you have you have been in a

01:25:12.080 relationship where you were finding yourself to be like the financial supporter almost but in most

01:25:18.080 of your relationships it sounds like you were the traditional woman yeah very interesting and have you

01:25:23.360 been in multiple relationships where the guy was weaker and you found yourself almost having to take

01:25:28.480 on the masculine role um so prior to this guy um so I just moved back to the states four years ago

01:25:36.400 and um when I started dating here in the US or maybe it's like LA um I've noticed that there was a lot

01:25:46.720 more men like that interesting versus like when I was dating abroad interesting I wonder what's

01:25:52.720 different about California I'll just go out and say it I really think that there's a huge problem

01:25:58.400 I mean a little bit more in democratic states but I think America is just full of

01:26:04.320 men that are incredibly weak and I talk to a lot of women who say that they're they find themselves

01:26:12.160 in similar situations to that and they can't even fulfill the traditional role because the man is almost

01:26:20.880 fully reliant on them to the point where they're becoming masculine and they're fulfilling the masculine

01:26:28.320 duties to a point where the woman can't be fully feminine I think that's I think that's absolutely

01:26:34.400 ridiculous I think when men are not in their masculine um

01:26:42.480 us as women will have to overcompensate for the lack of interesting and did you with the guys that

01:26:49.040 you've run into this problem with have you noticed that they tend to lean a certain way politically

01:26:56.000 yes so do they tend to lean left yes very interesting all right so men that are lacking

01:27:05.840 on the masculine side of things tend to lean left and then you find yourself going above and beyond

01:27:12.160 yeah interesting and are you looking for like a long-term relationship are you trying to get married

01:27:19.280 yeah I'm trying to get married and have kids I'm 33 my eggs are dying okay there you go

01:27:25.120 why you should have buttered that fucking toast wait but didn't you say you you dated like uh first

01:27:31.200 responders like you said you dated EMS uh military guys were those guys a bit more on the conservative

01:27:37.520 side or they tend to be okay then she came to California there's not there's not so good

01:27:46.640 where are you I live near Santa Monica oh okay like Orange County is pretty conservative

01:27:53.040 anyways whatever um okay and uh let's see here um you also said that you think you might be too

01:28:01.680 generous or too nice is that yeah I think it's um again cultural like I feel like um the way I was

01:28:14.160 raised it's like to please others I don't know do you feel that like an Asian culture it's like

01:28:22.960 you you're like born to serve others and then if you're in a society where everyone's serving others

01:28:30.160 it makes sense but when you're in a society where like most people don't view life in that way it

01:28:37.840 makes it feels like um we're getting taken advantage of do you 100 percent yeah in America you're really

01:28:44.640 encouraged to go out on your own and do your own thing and do things for yourself so wait you also

01:28:51.120 grew up in a similar culture first generation okay gotcha first generation very interesting okay and what did

01:28:59.680 what do they think of your work oh I don't really talk to them they don't talk no do they not know

01:29:05.040 about it uh I'm pretty sure they know about it but I don't talk to them oh you don't talk to them

01:29:10.160 anymore you guys had falling out yeah very interesting okay uh but so going back to this you said you

01:29:17.680 think you might be too generous or too nice my personal position on this I don't think there's such a thing

01:29:22.560 as too generous or too nice or too submissive like I'm never gonna look at a beautiful woman who does

01:29:32.720 everything that I want and go you know what you do too much of what I say what I want I'm gonna go

01:29:42.960 yeah I wish you would just fight with me a lot yeah I'm gonna go break up with you I'm gonna

01:29:47.040 break up with you and go get some disagreeable chick no no silent I I mean I I can definitely

01:29:55.360 see how in certain situations when when women feel maybe like they don't feel like they're appreciated

01:30:00.560 for what they do or like the guy isn't holding up his end of the deal like in your case yeah

01:30:05.840 so like you're you said you're more too generous too nice maybe submissive whatever it is but like

01:30:12.960 you're kind of uh when it came to the finances it sounded like in some of these relationships

01:30:17.920 you were providing and I don't know what these guys were up to in terms of what they were bringing

01:30:24.400 if you guys were living together like would you split the bills and stuff with these guys or did

01:30:29.520 you live with any of them I did um we would split the rent but that's pretty much it don't let American

01:30:39.600 society corrupt you on that because if you find the right man that's worthy of that you you have

01:30:46.960 to be ready to go all in because if you spend too much time single you're gonna you're gonna get

01:30:53.920 corrupted and you're not going to be able to fully put out when that person does come in front of you

01:30:58.880 what makes you think that they're worthy of that man what makes me think that they're worthy yeah that

01:31:05.600 they're worthy of the man well I mean ultimately this happens all the time right yeah people are

01:31:10.000 like you find a man who's worthy when this happens it's like why do you why is that even presupposed

01:31:16.240 like maybe you're just fucking awful you know what I mean like that there's this other possibility

01:31:20.880 and women that often just will not look at this possibility like maybe these men many of them

01:31:27.920 are perfectly fine and you're just fucking awful like that could also be a possibility right

01:31:32.960 you're not saying that about yeah I think I think you're just putting out are you saying

01:31:37.680 that in general in general right i mean it could just be you too wait what did you did you say sorry

01:31:47.280 did you ask me i mean it could but i maybe you suck maybe you're terrible maybe i suck but i i don't

01:31:55.040 i mean i don't think he's just he's just mad because you didn't butter there was the butter like he's

01:31:59.040 that there was the butter incident was alarm dropped the ball on that i i just looked at

01:32:06.160 your uh tick tock you said something about lesbian energy what what's that about people think you're

01:32:11.200 a lot people think i'm a lesbian all the time you have broad shoulders i mean i worked in this circus

01:32:16.160 and i like you've got tattoos i run ultra marathons i'm just really active what do you mean she's fit

01:32:22.560 man look at her that doesn't mean she's a lesbian well no i know but i i don't know the tattoos is a

01:32:30.720 big thing for me as well i think that the tattoos in general i mean they're great i'm a big fan of

01:32:35.760 tattoos but at the same time i feel like the double japanese is called japanese traditional sleeves i i

01:32:42.640 mean i don't i don't completely disagree with that prior to the tattoos like i yeah i get like i don't

01:32:50.240 know we get hit on by lesbians very interesting i i mean i've asked some people before and they

01:32:58.080 they said it's because i'm like like like level-headed i don't know or like calm or not like neurotic

01:33:09.360 i feel like i don't know that's lesbian traits am i wrong i don't know i'm just just relaying what

01:33:15.120 i've heard very interesting huh that's cool okay i get hit on by lesbians too it's really weird

01:33:23.280 like they i don't know if they think i'm like a chick or it's up man

01:33:26.480 bitch you a lesbian me or i'm i'm you're the butch i you know maybe i turn them

01:33:32.720 i'm yes brian's just that good i'm turning them he's that good i'm that good i'm that good um all

01:33:39.040 right here we have a super chat uh i'll get this pulled up here real quick living says never gotten

01:33:44.000 the answer to my question last year if a woman is going down on another woman what how big does

01:33:49.280 the clit have to be before it becomes straight um listen man this is part of you know big labia

01:34:00.080 matter pertains to labias but listen we also do some like side side gigs when it comes to like large

01:34:06.080 clits um a woman can still have a large clit and it's doesn't matter how big the clit is it's always

01:34:17.680 straight i think i can as long as she's female really okay i can speak to this a little bit as

01:34:22.720 a bodybuilder because when females so female bodybuilding is huge and i am honestly i'm not

01:34:31.280 a fan of female bodybuilding because it involves females taking androgenic steroids which basically

01:34:38.320 turns them into men and yes their clit tends to get bigger i really think that if you are i i don't

01:34:46.800 think women should be taking anabolic steroids androgenic steroids at all i think it decreases

01:34:51.760 their femininity and that's something that's positive that's something they have going for

01:34:57.520 them what what are your thoughts on this because you're you're also a bodybuilder aren't you you

01:35:02.720 said that before the show yeah are you are you a natural bodybuilder like me um i've taken a little

01:35:08.800 bit of anivar okay you're a varby like five milligrams she's a varby like the smallest amount okay okay

01:35:14.720 you took like one cycle or whatever yeah like 12 weeks but it's literally just to the like small

01:35:20.800 amount of anivar is just to like retain your muscle mass while you're in a very low the question's

01:35:25.680 coming did the clit get bigger no it's literally just anivar like a five millimeter yeah i don't

01:35:33.040 i mean her voice is still feminine yeah it's it's just like to make you your muscles look harder and

01:35:39.920 so you you can dry out but you wouldn't go further down that no i do agree that i think that okay so

01:35:44.960 when you look at female bodybuilders oh wow i'm gonna get flamed but i like the new vision when you

01:35:49.840 look at female bodybuilders do you get grossed out as well okay yeah because i get i get flamed for

01:35:56.640 talking about that but i think it is genuinely i i think it's disgusting i think female bodybuilding

01:36:03.680 besides you know there is a new division that they're coming out with like you mentioned

01:36:07.120 even bikini i think well so there's to an extent i think bikini is the best female bodybuilding

01:36:14.000 division but as soon as you go start going further than that because that's the smallest

01:36:17.200 and this most feminine but yeah now there's a new one model yeah now there's a new one there you go

01:36:21.680 okay all right uh we have one other chat here that's uh just yo kaibaka thank you for gifting

01:36:30.080 looks like 20 subs it's not letting me display it but uh thank you for the gifted 20 subs kaibaka i

01:36:37.200 really appreciate it man w's in the chat for kaibaka thank you and then we have uh this one oh the

01:36:43.920 cord the cord good save good save well done uh oh did that not pop let me see if it pops

01:36:52.480 america's almanac first time donor on whatever over from the crucible thanks for always being a

01:36:59.360 great friend to andrew and the crucible god bless you brian have a great rest of the show america's

01:37:04.400 almanac hey thank you so much man for the uh for the message uh super appreciative uh to andrew and

01:37:11.680 to the crucible crew appreciate you guys watching over there and uh we have sergeant maverick thank

01:37:17.120 for the prime do appreciate it all right let's get back to the show notes here uh and then mylin you

01:37:22.560 said i don't know what what the i don't know what the statistics are and how many single people there

01:37:27.760 are or the decline of dating but you have a theory that we are not as mature as our older generations

01:37:32.880 and have it very easy almost like we're too spoiled and don't understand or haven't experienced

01:37:37.120 real hardships to know what we value yeah anything else you want to add to that or pretty much speaks

01:37:42.880 for itself yeah pretty much speaks for itself rock and roll that's great all right we're gonna get to

01:37:48.480 ebony over here ebony you are quite the provocateur uh ebony you said you went on a date with a guy and he

01:37:56.000 took you on a ten thousand dollar shopping spree at some mall in miami um is that the most a guy's

01:38:04.160 ever spent on you in it yeah wait were you wearing those glasses before or did you just get them the

01:38:09.680 whole time i just get them i just got oh you just got them oh it's too much glare we need to see the

01:38:15.520 eyes okay the eyes are the something something soul i don't know um what did this guy do for work

01:38:20.960 he was retired he used to be a lawyer he used to do a bunch of jobs but he also used to invest and

01:38:26.320 stuff all right so uh is that that's the most a guy spent on you yeah basically um he was into fandom

01:38:36.400 because i do that too and so i am like a dominatrix and so yeah it was really interesting

01:38:45.600 um okay so you said that women should prioritize finances in a man yes over what what do you think

01:38:55.280 women tend to prioritize like love typically love okay yeah so finances first uh you also say here

01:39:04.080 women don't need men do you want to elaborate a bit on that uh i don't think that women like a lot of

01:39:11.440 people think that women need men in like society to maintain society and i don't think so i think

01:39:18.800 women would be perfectly fine i think men i think women would do better off how about how about this

01:39:25.600 scenario without women well so so let me uh let me ask you a couple clarifying hold on let me ask a

01:39:33.520 couple clarifying questions here um what what about this scenario if men just instantly disappeared

01:39:43.040 or women instantly disappeared because your position is men would fare worse yeah

01:39:49.520 than the women um so in that scenario where it's not like okay men are going to disappear in like a

01:39:55.920 year but it's like men disappear tonight and there's no ability for the women to prepare you think the

01:40:01.680 women uh fare better definitely why wow because i think first of all i think men's society would kind

01:40:08.400 of it would go stagnant i think the reason why men have done as much as they've done so far is for

01:40:15.120 women and because of women and so women on the other hand are quite motivated outside of men uh older

01:40:23.040 women who are you know divorced and don't plan on getting in relationships anymore still maintain

01:40:28.400 their lifestyle they still keep their places clean they still you know like they still maintain

01:40:35.920 here a couple more questions um who here agrees with her on this just curious anybody agree so

01:40:41.920 instantaneously all men disappear or instantaneously all women disappear uh her position is uh men would

01:40:48.880 fare worse in that scenario than women who who agrees with her there's actually there was like a study on

01:40:53.920 that with kids i i know like i still think that men and women like should do you remember what the

01:41:00.640 study was called by james i don't i saw i but it was like um elementary schoolers or maybe it was

01:41:07.440 middle schoolers but there was they're in like a house for a couple days just girls and then versus

01:41:13.120 guys and the girls actually did a lot better than just the boys and that is what was the age of the

01:41:20.240 children i'm pretty sure they're in middle school okay i don't see how that pertains to this does

01:41:27.600 anybody else agree with her going once going cheers who you agree yeah and you agree okay and then um

01:41:37.040 you mentioned that women they keep their houses uh in good shape right yeah but what happens in this

01:41:46.240 scenario when within 72 hours there's no electricity there's no food the water stops working there's

01:41:57.120 fires that break out and you don't have male firefighters to put these fires out so uh let's

01:42:02.480 assume like a woman loses her residence what then uh women know how to collect food i mean back when we

01:42:10.160 were hunter gatherers the gatherers being women would you think the average urban woman knows how to

01:42:15.440 collect food in the forest uh yeah that's what women used to do that they used to do but that was

01:42:21.360 like taught it's not like you can't just drop somebody who's lived in civilization their entire

01:42:28.480 life into the fort like do you think you think an average for both men and women i don't think the

01:42:34.400 average man well no because even then there's a there's a strength discrepancy so you take like a

01:42:40.480 a man who's grown up in an urban environment and a woman who's grown up in an urban environment they

01:42:46.400 both have like very little knowledge just on the basis that men have uh more strength generally

01:42:52.960 speaking the man's already in an advantage in what way like what you don't think like you don't think

01:43:00.160 early human beings relied on like strength and labor to move like okay i want to chop down a tree

01:43:06.880 i need to chop up this firewood i need to move these materials to this position i think women

01:43:13.280 could work as a team like community well in this scenario i'm thinking like one-on-one but even then

01:43:18.800 two women don't possess the same strength as two men or three women don't possess the same strength

01:43:23.680 as three men right but i don't think you need to have like some incredible degree of strength i think

01:43:28.880 that as long as you have a community you have a tribe you'd be fine it doesn't really matter what

01:43:35.760 level of strength there is i think women have enough strength to survive on their own what was

01:43:40.560 the question would you be interested in a real social experiment then let's say you get 12 of

01:43:46.320 your girlfriends who have even survival skills let's just let let's say they have survival skills

01:43:52.320 we'll collect 12 men who have survival skills or we can collect 12 who don't to 12 women and then

01:43:58.560 give them uh just a knife a piece and send them off into the wilderness i mean they already do this

01:44:03.440 do you watch naked and afraid yeah yeah i mean they did how did the women do they did they actually

01:44:09.520 did do this so uh and how did uh how did the women do women survive just fine by themselves no no they

01:44:15.920 went over to the men during the exact same social experiment i'm talking about which didn't include

01:44:21.200 12 year olds okay when they were fully grown adults and here's what happened they did this in a

01:44:27.280 crying they were freezing and they went over and begged the men to help them and the men finally

01:44:33.600 did and uh i have seen no no reason why that would not be again by the way these were all ages of men

01:44:41.120 all ages of women and uh they failed miserably like miserably i've seen episodes where the women have

01:44:48.960 hunted and caught like large kills and i mean and the women you know they do get multiple seasons i'm

01:44:56.560 not disputing that women can't they can't do uh in in groups and teams i mean uh the women are not

01:45:02.880 stupid i'm sure that they can hunt uh to a but it's the degree to which you're effective at the thing

01:45:09.200 that matters so when brian says strength i don't even think that that you realize what what he's saying

01:45:13.680 when you're talking about all the labor jobs which keeps society going that requires a great degree

01:45:19.920 of physical strength and physical strength is multiplied by multiple men no you don't think

01:45:24.720 so you think it's just done by machines the nice thing about machines and machines take a great

01:45:30.400 amount of physical strength to use you have a gal here who said she was in maintenance yeah she'll tell

01:45:35.760 you if you want to pick up a 400 pound machine motor uh it's really heavy just so you know it's not an

01:45:43.120 easy fee so i don't i don't know where you get the idea that raw strength is not still the staple of

01:45:48.640 human labor because it still is we have labor saving devices but but strength is still very much key in

01:45:54.480 labor sure but you know also just you do acknowledge that there's discrepancies in terms of representation

01:46:02.800 when it comes to uh critical infrastructure jobs right

01:46:07.120 so like for example um like water i'll i've got a list here water sewage electricity gas fuel

01:46:17.680 refinement garbage collection telecommunications it infrastructure road maintenance truck and delivery

01:46:23.440 drivers police fire rescue these are predominated by men do you agree with this yeah i mean it's just

01:46:29.600 factually true um so if all men disappear instantly there's not enough women in these fields

01:46:38.080 to essentially there's not enough women in the fields where if they just disappeared immediately

01:46:43.760 it would just be complete it would be a complete catastrophe and i mean you'd have electricity gone

01:46:51.360 within 72 hours telecommunications gone within 72 hours women are not in those fields when like

01:46:57.920 there's a snowstorm or hurricane and the power's out and it's below freezing in bozeman montana

01:47:04.000 and and they got to fix the power lines or they got to fix something they got to check the grid

01:47:08.960 at 1 a.m and it's snowing and hailing outside is the woman who goes or it's a man it's always a man

01:47:16.960 okay so what happened during world war ii when men had to go to war and women had to take over

01:47:20.960 the jobs women had first of all not all women not not all men went to world war ii right women

01:47:28.960 stepped up to some degree but they also had plenty of time to prepare for it in the scenario

01:47:34.800 i provided men disappeared instantly so in that scenario women would not be able to like oh okay

01:47:42.960 we're just going to take over the water the sewage the telecoms you you there wouldn't be enough women

01:47:47.840 who have the knowledge base or even necessarily the physical capacity to even do some of these jobs

01:47:53.920 even if they did have the knowledge base i think they would i mean we still have the internet

01:47:59.280 women are dominating education the internet would be down within 72 hours why do you realize how often

01:48:07.360 like there there needs to be because it runs because you seeing the internet runs on electricity

01:48:12.560 and if there's no more electrical workers there's no female electricians overwhelming amount of them

01:48:17.920 are men i'm talking vast i think it's like 98 in fact i think i think a hundred percent of linemen

01:48:24.560 last i checked linemen those are the people who put up your tell you know your power polls i think

01:48:29.360 they're all men right it was like decimal point that wasn't men right maybe you're right maybe it

01:48:34.320 would go out there wouldn't be enough women to sustain you know like but i think over time women

01:48:40.640 would evolve and it would we would get it like well you have one generation because without men you're

01:48:46.720 basically going to go extinct and unless of course you decide that you're going to use frozen male

01:48:51.840 sperm and then only keep the women but you're going to run out eventually so then i guess you would have

01:48:56.240 to have men so that men could then re-inseminate you at some point and then the second you have men to

01:49:01.120 do that you have the problem that they're really fucking strong and may decide that you get to go in

01:49:06.240 the cages so i don't really know i don't really know like how this is a you know even feasible from

01:49:12.480 the female standpoint if all men disappear tomorrow it seems to me like this would be dire and

01:49:19.120 catastrophic for women not exactly sure how it would be for men we don't need it anyway the stuff

01:49:25.920 you're talking about right i mean we've survived as societies without electricity you do okay you

01:49:31.520 do your body was conditioned for this so you're talking about conditions so if you if you live in a

01:49:36.800 world like if you go to the third world for instance have you ever seen what's called the

01:49:40.240 third world squat that now if you just took that normal squat sitting position that almost everybody

01:49:46.640 sits in in the third world all day long your calves would be killing you within about 20 minutes and

01:49:52.720 you'd have to get back up because most people don't sit like this right we sit on chairs which is

01:49:58.000 actually bad for our back they're actually conditioned for this movement because they were raised in

01:50:02.400 environment for the movement the soles of their feet are conditioned to not have shoes they were

01:50:06.560 raised in an environment for that everything about them is conditioned for the environment that they're

01:50:12.000 in that is not the case anymore when you're not conditioned to go out in the forest and find

01:50:17.200 fucking berries okay nobody's gonna women are not modern women are not conditioned to do that

01:50:23.520 neither are modern men modern men mostly modern men keep up forestry modern men keep up

01:50:31.600 physical conditioning for outdoor jobs and outdoor work and outdoor foraging and hunting and things

01:50:37.280 like that women do not and there are women who do these jobs too very few so i live in bozeman montana

01:50:44.160 and i can tell you that if men disappeared you know some people will say you know you you we don't need

01:50:49.680 these amenities to survive there's a large surplus of the population that lives in a climate where if these

01:50:57.360 things disappear millions and millions of people would just die so like brian said if they had time

01:51:05.200 to prepare if females have time to prepare they can obviously make that happen but i think to say that

01:51:11.600 if men just disappeared women would be fine we're already prepared though like we already have

01:51:17.840 education we already have food in grocery stores we like we would have time

01:51:22.640 wait wait hold on one thing one thing so right but like if all men disappeared how quickly are you

01:51:31.360 going to the grocery store and looting everything right how how quick until all that food's gone

01:51:38.320 and then one you're you're gonna have bands of women who are just maybe collectively get together

01:51:43.440 they're gonna take everything and then and you don't have police so if there's women who are inclined to

01:51:48.480 violence there's nobody who's going to be able to enforce any of the laws and then secondly hold on

01:51:53.120 hold on once that food is gone who's going to where's the farmers who are going to cultivate it

01:52:00.560 90 of drivers truck drivers are i don't know if that's the exact number the majority of truck drivers

01:52:06.000 are men transport how do they get to the grocery store how do they get to trader joe's i mean again

01:52:11.200 so we wouldn't have as much of a population to sustain because half of the population would be gone

01:52:15.120 right and then also i think women are just you know i think women are quite civilized i don't

01:52:18.640 think we are just going to go and start looting things and like whoa i think we can share and i

01:52:23.280 think we can wait wait wait hold on do you realize how okay society is like what what did they say like

01:52:32.240 six meals away from pure chaos yeah like once people are hungry once they're thirsty

01:52:39.040 you think women aren't going to start killing each other really i mean we would still maintain

01:52:45.520 society initially like money and i mean women work in grocery stores and stuff like we're not just

01:52:50.160 going to go immediately go stealing things and stuff like that i don't think that's exactly what

01:52:54.400 people are going to loot

01:52:55.680 just because there's no men

01:53:00.560 it's like a thanos thing they disappear you can't eat the body for the sake of your own survival you

01:53:05.120 wouldn't just go immediately like looting the grocery store no because there would be other

01:53:09.120 women with weapons listen i'm going to give you uh credit where credit is due we can just take a look

01:53:15.040 at the top 10 women female jobs and we we know you're right human resource managers they're going

01:53:20.240 to be really good dental hygienists can't wait for them nurse practitioners physical therapists

01:53:24.400 physician assistants veterinarians child care workers health care administrators marketing managers

01:53:30.480 medical scientists this means uh you're part of a research crew guess what's not there

01:53:37.840 you'll never guess construction worker lineman um you know any type of mechanical engineer any type of

01:53:45.200 labor whatsoever uh women tend to gravitate towards child care and nursing and administrative jobs they

01:53:51.920 and clerical work they don't gravitate towards any of the jobs that you're talking about so how useful do

01:53:57.520 you think human resource managers are going to be in the female apocalypse exactly i will teach

01:54:02.960 you how to sail and we can just sail away how many people fit on your boat how many people fit on

01:54:08.480 your boat comfortably like with a bed or like they're on the floor but who's going to farm the

01:54:13.520 food that you bring with hold on it doesn't matter it doesn't matter pull it up damon i have a spear

01:54:19.680 bigger so you can bigger bigger bigger cut that off uh all right so this is the top 20 most dangerous

01:54:27.840 use occupations and the percentage of mail so logging workers 94 mail fishing workers 99 mail aircraft

01:54:34.800 pilots roofers uh truck drivers is 94 mail uh iron and steel workers 98 mail farmers and ranchers 70 so for

01:54:43.040 the food 75 percent agriculture workers 79 uh mining landscaping construction workers 97 uh

01:54:50.000 hide move us to the other side cement and concrete manufacturing that's that's not super important

01:54:55.520 but the electrical well for the apocalypse scenario smaller i need to just hide us just hide us totally

01:55:01.120 just hide us totally hold on hold on hold on hold on electrical power line workers 99 police officers 85

01:55:07.760 percent maintenance repair workers 97 percent uh and those are the pertaining to the apocalypse

01:55:14.080 scenario go ahead andrew but could they do that brian without their human resource managers

01:55:19.360 could they

01:55:22.000 i mean at the end of the day i feel like women don't really occupy those jobs because of the

01:55:26.080 patriarchy because of gender stereotypes that we have in society like i feel like if men disappeared

01:55:30.560 like women wouldn't really be catering their life to like oh i want a family here no we can here

01:55:35.040 we can prove this pull up the discord uh go to like men the men at work tab uh we have some videos

01:55:41.440 here that we can show you uh you got it of what men at work tab

01:55:51.360 and patriarchy is preventing you from being a locker yes put on the windows definitely i mean aren't

01:55:57.920 video back by who show us by the people who hire right big due to sexism and that works

01:56:05.040 um due to the fact that they're not strong enough to do logging let's see here um oh

01:56:11.520 they have no i'm not necessarily scroll up all the way up all the way to the top

01:56:15.840 and the burj khalifa stuff i'm not there's no strength in it scroll down

01:56:20.640 uh scroll down scroll down the first line worker one play that one

01:56:25.440 uh so this is a guy doing some uh work on the line in snowing and it looks like i don't know

01:56:35.360 that's a cup what 100 feet plus i don't know uh is it the patriarchy that's preventing women from

01:56:42.000 doing this job honestly that looks like so much fun protectors and they would never let a woman do that

01:56:47.040 job or they're not a man what are you talking okay no man would let a woman take on that job

01:56:53.440 because we're sexist or because we're chivalrous nothing is preventing women from doing this job

01:57:00.160 they just don't want to do it i will say there are x out of it there are a lot of women here

01:57:04.960 play that play that uh the north sea compilation women don't want to do those jobs the top one

01:57:09.920 i would totally totally okay if you would totally do it go do it go do it i'll give you a

01:57:16.640 thousand dollars if you do the ship for a month lineman school wait for the fishermen because i will

01:57:21.680 totally do that no do do this the north sea yes do this oh yeah you go do it for three months go on

01:57:29.600 an oil rig it takes like three years to be able to do that because the the metal workers that that's

01:57:34.080 an extreme okay total cop-out go just go ask if there's a job go ask yeah there's a cop-out go ask

01:57:40.880 if there's a job stop stop stop go ask if there's a job on an oil rig for you to take go do it exile that

01:57:48.320 sailing is male dominated and the skills that's cool right and another reason dominated that

01:57:52.800 doesn't stop down from doing them right here fish that's also male dominated that doesn't stop on the

01:57:57.440 manhole did the did the patriarchy prevent you from being a sailor no and women don't want to do this

01:58:03.360 women don't want to work with men with this there's nothing preventing there's nothing preventing a

01:58:08.240 woman from doing this job women don't want to work with men women don't want to be sexually harassed at

01:58:13.440 work and oh nice made fun of or treated like a lesser person it's not there's multiple reasons

01:58:19.600 why women don't take these jobs oh the women the patriarchy yeah the patriarchy has to do with that

01:58:24.160 that's totally uh and that's it we've shown them may i speak on this just for a second

01:58:30.080 so being somebody who has a lot of male dominated skills right with like i've started spearfishing

01:58:35.600 about two years ago that's something that's definitely male dominated like fishing in general

01:58:39.600 is male dominated now that's more of like a hobby than like a job i don't do these for my jobs but

01:58:45.120 you know you can if you are in a scenario of oh like you know can a woman do these things she can do

01:58:50.880 these things or is it a majority of women no and i'm not going to argue that that's a stupid point

01:58:55.120 compared to the you literally have that the data right there but when you hold on no no when you

01:59:00.800 say fishing yeah do you mean you throw out a line and you reel the fish do you know how physically

01:59:06.960 laborious commercial fishing no i do i do i have a lot of friends who are fishermen because they're

01:59:11.840 in the okay but were you stopped by men when you wanted to pursue these things what i'm saying is

01:59:17.120 is that like if you want to do these things in a woman as a woman you can like there might be a

01:59:21.520 strength barrier that you'd have to we're talking about a survival situation in a survival situation i

01:59:27.600 would be fine personally because again i live on a boat i own my own boat it's able to get power from my

01:59:33.360 my engine which i've learned how to fix i have solar which supplements the battery for that

01:59:39.840 fuel that's fair honestly how am i going to get fuel i have a sailboat so i can sail if i run out

01:59:44.480 of fuel you know i've got plenty of canned goods i've got a spear gun i know how to spear fish i can

01:59:49.120 go underwater for it i can fish above water too i can get my meat there i've learned how to fish like

01:59:54.240 that how to literally fillet the fish how to eat that way okay cool cool cool i'm sorry i have to cut

01:59:59.200 you off here going back to the original conversation i wasn't sure huh i wasn't here for

02:00:04.560 the beginning of that so i don't know how this started we she made the claim that women would

02:00:09.200 do better in a i'm not arguing that i don't you gotta let me finish before you keep interrupting

02:00:14.400 so she made the claim that women would fare better in a situation where like all men disappeared and

02:00:20.640 we're presenting evidence to the contrary my my position here is not would some women on the

02:00:27.600 individual level would they be able to survive do women can have survival skills they can have

02:00:33.280 all the skills you listed i don't doubt that you have any of them congratulations we're talking

02:00:38.800 about like the macro level like societal level catastrophe that would occur in a situation

02:00:46.160 where all men or all women disappeared and because of men's over representation in critical

02:00:52.080 infrastructure fields my position is is it would be absolute chaos in the event if all men disappeared

02:00:59.120 whereas if all women disappeared that would be terrible it'd be the end of the human species

02:01:04.720 but all the critical infrastructure we would keep that going and we would have a much higher standard

02:01:10.640 of living if all women were to disappear than the reverse yeah i do think it would kind of be like

02:01:16.240 lord of the flies but i do agree with you where most men would just be you know living in a

02:01:20.480 shoebox once women disappears what's what's the motivation what's the reasoning anymore wait but

02:01:26.960 don't you think it's a little bit hypocritical to say that women aren't or women don't get into

02:01:33.840 jobs like that like being a lineman and working on oil rigs because they're scared that they're going

02:01:40.240 to be sexually harassed by men like when you do only fans how would that be contradicting well because

02:01:49.280 you're saying that you're basically saying that women aren't trying to be sexually harassed when

02:01:57.120 aren't only fans models isn't that essentially what you're putting yourself out there even if you're

02:02:02.480 not trying to get sexually harassed isn't that the job where you are going to get sexually harassed the

02:02:07.840 most i mean i haven't been sexually harassed i don't necessarily think you would be

02:02:14.000 do you really think that men sexually or women's fear of getting sexually harassed by men is what

02:02:21.040 keeps them out of jobs like that yeah like women just don't want to be in working jobs with men where

02:02:26.240 they would feel like a lesser person they would be underestimated well but in this case in those jobs

02:02:31.680 like they are weaker so they would be necessarily lesser correct i agree with that i agree with

02:02:36.800 what you're saying i don't think it's about sexual harassment i think it is about strength and also

02:02:40.560 just like who who is funneled into the point if if that's the case if that's the argument why wouldn't

02:02:46.320 women just start their own firms and compete with these male firms and with all women who if you really

02:02:51.760 have women who really want to do these jobs then if a woman started this firm they should have a limitless

02:02:57.520 amount and could compete very easily by even offering slightly lower wages than the male competitors

02:03:04.160 these women are desperate to get in to these jobs because they don't want to be sexually harassed by

02:03:10.000 these men you could still have an all-female firm yeah i mean i think that what like i think that's what

02:03:14.960 turns women away from working these kinds of jobs but i think like again gender stereotypes and gender

02:03:20.640 roles in society plays a huge part in this like generally with you know historically what we've told

02:03:27.040 women okay wait wait one argument at a time before you're as a you've been like a tube of toothpaste

02:03:32.160 we squeeze here and you just move there i squeeze there you move here so back on this argument we'll

02:03:38.000 stay with it can you answer why it is that if it is the case that you believe that there's just tons

02:03:43.120 of women who want to do these jobs just excluded due to the fact i don't think there is let me finish the

02:03:48.960 question that they're excluded because they think they're going to be sexually harassed why wouldn't they

02:03:53.360 just start female firms and then make a killing paying them slightly less than the competitor

02:03:57.760 yeah again because i don't think women do want to do those jobs well then why did you earlier say

02:04:03.840 that the reason that there's a barrier for entry into these jobs and i have witnesses here can confirm

02:04:09.120 this one smiling because he clearly heard the same thing i did that you said the barrier for entrance is

02:04:14.240 that they did not want to be sexually harassed by the evil men because that is like that would be

02:04:19.600 the reason why a lot of women would be deterred from those jobs or wouldn't get into those jobs

02:04:23.440 in the first place but i don't necessarily think there's a large you wait hold on hold on hold on

02:04:28.400 i don't necessarily think there's some large and like group of women who want to do these jobs i just

02:04:33.200 think that maybe there would be women who would do them but they just wouldn't do them because it's

02:04:37.840 male-dominated how about we hear from a woman saying that women gravitate naturally towards jobs that

02:04:42.720 aren't like these but somehow not naturally i don't think it's natural apocalyptic world where there's tons of

02:04:47.680 women who don't gravitate towards these jobs they're going to do better than men can you explain

02:04:51.760 logically how that works can we hear from a woman who's actually in the field with no i can i would

02:04:56.240 like to finish real quick okay but but she's got she's i know i know and we can we can get to her

02:05:00.800 just a second i'd like to finish the line of inquiry here so back to this can you explain to me logically

02:05:05.680 just break it down very quickly how it could possibly be that if you now agree that uh women just don't

02:05:11.600 gravitate towards these jobs you have to necessarily agree that they don't want to do them they don't have

02:05:16.560 interest in them so how is it that they would fare better but in a post-apocalyptic non-male world

02:05:21.920 exactly because like there would be no men they wouldn't be scared to enter these jobs um due to

02:05:28.880 wait i thought you just said they didn't want to do these jobs it wasn't a matter yeah but there would

02:05:32.640 be a need for it now they don't want to do it because most women think oh like i want a family

02:05:37.040 or whatever and i want to be seen as a feminine woman but you know like they want to be feminine and

02:05:43.840 do all these traditionally feminine things so now it's a cultural issue i mean there's no barrier

02:05:49.360 for it's like a mixture of both and we have a cultural problem it's a mixture of both it's a

02:05:55.680 it's a mixture of both now so they did but you so then you do agree that most women just don't want

02:06:00.160 to do these jobs yeah so then how would they fare better when they don't even gravitate with an

02:06:05.680 interest towards these types of things than men who do clearly have an interest in these things

02:06:10.560 like aren't you going to be better at your work if you're interested in the work well i never said

02:06:14.720 that women would do better in oh no no no women's society would do better ready quote women would

02:06:22.000 fare better than men just pointing that yeah in general not in these specific occupations yeah how

02:06:28.320 could that be if women don't gravitate towards those things and men do aren't men going to naturally

02:06:34.080 be better at them then because they're interested in them because the reason why women don't gravitate

02:06:38.240 towards these things is because it's male dominated and because women are not encouraged to be in

02:06:42.640 those kinds of jobs you just got done you well you just contradicted yourself because first your

02:06:47.520 argument was no it's not that the barrier for entry is otherwise we would have female firms that would

02:06:53.200 compete rather it's a small minority of women who have interest in these jobs and they gravitate towards

02:06:57.840 these other jobs because of the interest they have in those jobs instead so if that is the case

02:07:03.920 we have now deduced using inductive reasoning that you believe most women don't have an interest in

02:07:09.040 these jobs if that is the case why do you think post-apocalyptically suddenly they would just

02:07:14.240 have an interest they would be interested they wouldn't be interested there would just be a need for

02:07:19.920 it so they like right they all agree there'd be a need for it they just wouldn't be interested in it so

02:07:24.960 the thing there would be incentives for women to get into these jobs and eventually society would

02:07:30.160 adapt like it's kind of like how would society adapt if they have no interest in the job they

02:07:37.920 only are gravitating based around need and they don't have the interest if it is the case that people

02:07:43.600 have interest in a job they do better at that job yeah women don't aren't interested in these jobs

02:07:48.880 because of traditional gender roles if we get rid of the other gender there is no need for that

02:07:53.200 continuous contradiction it's not a it's not a it's not a contradiction i'm gonna i'll show you

02:07:57.840 it cannot be both oh because of traditional gender roles are not interested and okay at the same

02:08:03.840 time well it's just that men gravitate towards it because because they're interested so you got to

02:08:10.000 pick pick pick yeah the reason why they're interested is because of traditional gender roles

02:08:14.560 i don't see what so hard to comprehend is it is it the case that women would normally be

02:08:18.400 interested in these jobs and they're just not because men or is it the case that they're

02:08:23.040 just not interested in these jobs which is it they're not because of cultural like our culture

02:08:30.400 basically okay so you believe that if we had like a massive government program which incentivized

02:08:37.040 women to do these jobs that women would be gravitating towards these jobs right yeah okay

02:08:42.800 great we already have that why aren't they what do you mean i mean we have massive government programs

02:08:48.240 including affirmative action including government stipends government grants including for the

02:08:52.720 the first navy seal millions of dollars were spent to find one overwhelmingly the government has spent

02:08:59.360 hundreds of billions of dollars in uh affirmative propaganda to get women into male positions and

02:09:06.640 they don't want it one such example you could find would be in the nordic nations where there was

02:09:11.600 hundreds of hundreds of millions of uh dollars spent whatever their dollars are in pushing women into

02:09:19.360 those fields and telling them to gravitate into those fields and they still don't how do you account for

02:09:25.680 that then i mean i would just say again because women think about wanting a family with a man and being

02:09:31.440 attracted to a man so they're not interested in being attracted so they're interested in something else other

02:09:36.880 than those jobs can i add something i i do have to move things on i do have to move things on but

02:09:43.040 uh and also andrew wouldn't you know i i almost wonder if this conversation is a bit secondary because

02:09:49.360 isn't it just a defeater in this scenario like when it comes to a societal breakdown uh even if there were

02:09:58.960 women who had the interest there's the you know it's like a black hole the point of no return

02:10:06.480 once there's been enough societal decline in like an apocalyptic scenario like you you are so declined

02:10:14.480 that you're just never like there's just not enough people with like the knowledge base uh or enough

02:10:20.720 people in this field there's just going to be like so many cascading problems that like you're not even

02:10:27.360 thinking about getting internet back you're not thinking about electricity back you're thinking about

02:10:32.080 like base level survival even easier all you have to do is just take a look at reason right reason

02:10:38.080 is important when it comes to survival you have to reason things out and think about how many

02:10:42.880 unreasonable contradictions i just went through women are really interested in these jobs but they're not

02:10:47.360 interested in them there's a gender divide and if the government were to produce tons of propaganda

02:10:51.760 towards these jobs women would then be interested in them and that was her position and then when i

02:10:56.720 explained hey but that's already happening then it became well i think that women just have other

02:11:01.600 interests again in this case men they're just interested in men which again demonstrates that

02:11:05.840 they have other interests than what these jobs are so it's contradiction after contradiction after

02:11:10.800 contradiction because of a lack of reason and the thing is it's like all you really have to do

02:11:17.280 is think about that for 15 seconds right you can see all those contradictions what brian points out here

02:11:23.280 is he says this is way past the curve right he says wait a second if societal decay got to

02:11:30.160 x threshold there's no coming back anyway and it's not like we're going to rediscover the technology

02:11:34.720 of anvils and you know horses and buggies and things like that that's not an overnight thing we would

02:11:39.040 actually it would take us time to regress in technology that's true but the thing is is like

02:11:44.960 immediately i don't even think she believes her own position so it's like it can just be categorically

02:11:50.240 rejected anyhow i do uh have to get some chats coming in here we have chris chris donated two

02:11:55.680 hundred dollars ask women to open a pickle jar and i got one how strong they are all right

02:12:01.760 all right mikayla you do you will we'll start with mikayla we'll go down

02:12:08.160 grab that all right go ahead are you gonna close it re-close it and reopen well if she gets it

02:12:15.040 that's it so go ahead mikayla mikayla goes first she she works out though so she might get it

02:12:20.240 come on you got it let's go mikayla well wait you only oh wow she got it you know ryan that's not

02:12:28.000 a good look i was playing hey chris is the one who asked for the pickle jar chris chris i loosened

02:12:35.200 it a bit for her i'll just you know i want you know i wanted to give mikayla a w over here she

02:12:40.000 didn't get she hasn't gotten flowers so good job mikayla um the there is a catch though mikayla

02:12:46.160 whoever opens it has to eat all the pickles oh my god does any will anybody eat a pickle right now

02:12:53.040 holy she should chill out oh my god she really likes the pickles man she really likes the mic

02:12:58.560 back down uh i think we need to get you like a little paper towel though otherwise it's gonna

02:13:03.360 leak everywhere um do you want to just go grab like a paper towel and actually damien damien can

02:13:07.920 you just grab her one all right we got some more chats coming through here uh i do apologize those came

02:13:12.080 in a while ago sorry for the delay guys we were just kind of hold on guys stop stop we were just

02:13:17.600 in the middle of something so uh we you know i wanted to let the conversation play out but um

02:13:24.000 uh so sorry for the delay on these guys chris thank you for that beans donated 200 yeah go ahead

02:13:30.320 hello from the uk just one you have to have it in first time i've ever been up late enough to watch

02:13:36.320 live chair one and four wow how important is loyalty in a relationship

02:13:48.080 oh no wow good job all right it was like two three bites but okay all right congratulations let's

02:13:52.800 uh w's in the chat for uh bella over here w's in the chat she's a she's a pickle destroyer um all right

02:14:00.320 uh or just leave it over there in case here you get hungry and you want another one

02:14:04.160 um let's see here we have beans okay so that was for chair one and chair four uh how important is

02:14:10.880 loyalty in a oh wait no chair one and chair four wow oh the question was not specifically direct

02:14:17.520 directed at you he just said wow to michaela and shelby i guess he okay whatever uh how important

02:14:23.680 is loyalty in a relationship going around the table how important is it yeah that's i mean extremely

02:14:30.560 important yeah okay coming around the table super quick go ahead it's everything it's everything

02:14:36.160 it's the most important shelby yes yes okay there's no relationship without loyalty yeah okay

02:14:45.680 i think it's super important all right what about you yeah i think it's really important

02:14:50.000 it's the foundation yeah what they said and just to be fair you wanted to come in uh i guess on the

02:14:57.840 previous comment i do have to move it on afterwards but you wanted to come in on the conversation we're

02:15:02.640 having um with the guys and girls in the work what we were just talking about yeah uh there was a couple

02:15:08.960 things uh if you i don't know so uh one um you know that job because you're doing the job so everything's

02:15:19.840 taught another thing it's not all really strength unless it is something down to a pickle jar

02:15:24.640 um a lot of the jobs use machines now like um you really aren't doing much rather just moving your

02:15:31.280 hand or something um the thing about wait wait hold on i'm sorry i'm sorry hold on damien pull up the

02:15:39.840 discord again i'm sorry i'm sorry pull up the discord oh okay so with the cockroaches yes in the

02:15:45.040 tunnel pull up the discord okay all right no no hold on scroll up scroll up just driving this

02:15:50.480 point play play the roughnecks hold on hold on full screen it skip forward to so you're saying

02:15:59.440 these men they they're just like pulling a lever um yes hold on yeah so that might be a little heavy

02:16:06.720 that's it took two hold on you think this job is different do you realize how strong these guys are

02:16:12.320 these guys who work on these derricks and stuff the roughnecks no that are they just pulling a lever

02:16:17.600 that has to be in a male form this is how you get that one but i think that the important point is

02:16:25.520 that with a lot of the machines that even that women would be using like who manufactures the

02:16:32.160 machines and then who maintains them and that requires work like this right just real quick i'd like to

02:16:39.120 just just go right back to your points before we shift it on when you say what jobs are you talking

02:16:46.080 about i will say with the one with the guy in the sewer tunnel and the bugs are calling um no i mean

02:16:52.240 which ones were you referencing when you said it just take you know okay so let's say uh it work

02:16:57.280 building fiber wiring there's actually machine building the or digging through the ground really

02:17:04.160 um there's there's many jobs like even the logging right um you have machines doing it like you're

02:17:09.360 crawling up and you have a chainsaw now again you can say like a man eventually created the machine as well

02:17:15.840 i will say that i'm not hanging on just one point at a time so let's start with fiber wire i've run

02:17:19.760 fiber wire and i've cut down trees i've done both of those things uh no you don't have a machine which

02:17:25.920 late you're still manually laying cable by the way you're still manually laying it and you have terrain

02:17:30.960 conditions that go into account so machines can only get in certain places right uh and human beings can

02:17:36.720 get in many more places that machines cannot get that's that's the first one and then your second

02:17:41.520 point when it comes to logging especially i don't know if you've ever chainsawed for hours that is

02:17:47.520 hard ass work those chainsaws are extremely heavy you have to have correct technique it's extremely

02:17:54.240 laborious and it's back breaking because of the way that you have to bend you're constantly basically

02:17:59.920 at a 45 degree angle the entire time with this chainsaw uh no that requires immense physical strength

02:18:07.040 i don't i don't know where you got the idea that oh you have a chainsaw and so therefore

02:18:11.200 like what it might even be better less laborious uh to cut down a single tree with an axe because you

02:18:18.560 can at least stand upright when you're swinging the axe but with a chainsaw you're expected to cut down

02:18:23.600 many many many trees in a day and it's extremely heavy it's extremely laborious work like i don't

02:18:29.600 i don't know where you're coming up with this um for yourself as a chainsaw you're only chainsawing

02:18:36.640 what i'm not a chainsaw if you're doing it at that level i have chainsaw down trees there's definitely

02:18:41.680 some type of machining already involved for that type of labor for that multitude um yeah what that

02:18:49.360 machine does it's late it's a labor saving device it doesn't make the labor easier what it does is it makes

02:18:56.720 it faster the chaining down tons of trees with a chainsaw climbing up so first of all you have to

02:19:03.120 cut a tree down from the top up so you have to climb up to the top of the tree and delimit with a

02:19:09.040 chainsaw in one hand while you're holding the tree with another hand you delimit down then you cut it down

02:19:15.440 at the base it is true that it's a lot faster than doing it with an axe but it's still very labor

02:19:21.440 intensive but that's all it means is you can like cut more down quicker not that the work is easier

02:19:26.720 um and then the job with the guy in the tunnel and the cockroaches at the end of the day uh how i

02:19:34.960 saw that was an act of love um not really that no woman would ever do it at the end of the day

02:19:41.600 a man would never let the woman do that a woman could they never would because men would never i would

02:19:50.000 let a woman do it i don't think you would if you loved your woman you wouldn't like because that sewer

02:19:54.400 system is for your house or whatever oh i don't know if i'd want my girlfriend to do it but like

02:19:58.960 if i had a job and a woman came to me and she was capable of doing it would i you would want me as

02:20:07.520 like the mat the man oh you can't do that woman i'd be like okay if you can do it fuck it well you're

02:20:14.640 small you can get into maybe you're she's smaller she can get into the spaces better i don't know yeah

02:20:19.200 yeah i don't know well that woman's there because she likes doing it i guess

02:20:23.120 but okay all right uh i gotta let the rest of the chats come through we have uh actually yeah we'll

02:20:31.120 let these come through metro mac donated two hundred dollars women of the panel would you do these jobs

02:20:39.280 what is stopping you from doing them settle the debate also stop the coat chair three

02:20:46.640 so uh of some of the videos i showed you just going around the table like would you do those

02:20:50.720 jobs to like the in the in that manhole like getting rid of the cockroaches that the the power

02:20:58.400 lines or whatever snowing would would you do those jobs yeah i would do them you do them okay

02:21:06.240 if worse comes to worse i'll do it okay you do those jobs or no just because i'm a

02:21:12.960 pussy but i'd probably do something like construction or like electrician or whatever

02:21:17.840 all right yeah all right what about you yeah no no there are other badass women who would do it i

02:21:24.400 wouldn't want to do it you wouldn't want to do it what about you um it depends i think i would okay

02:21:30.080 i do my own septic so i do have to do that for myself but i don't know how i would feel about doing

02:21:34.720 that for somebody else so okay i would 100 okay wait you would 100 but didn't you say men should

02:21:43.920 not allow women to do that no i didn't say that i said the only reason why the man got there in the

02:21:48.640 the end was because that's what a man does out of love wait the man does it he's the end of the

02:21:57.040 she's saying that we out of chivalry wouldn't let a woman do that which if a woman wanted to do that

02:22:03.040 job would you i would i would let the woman do the job if she wanted to do the job but she doesn't

02:22:08.240 want to do the job that's the problem yeah you know i don't know um all right uh let's see here

02:22:14.320 graffito tagged hey thank you man graffito tagged donated two hundred dollars if all the men were

02:22:20.640 to disappear who is going to get rid of the spiders for you huh yeah i mean who's going to kill my own

02:22:27.440 i will who's going to kill the spiders i'll come in with a baseball someone with lesbian energy that's

02:22:34.400 that's who needs to come in to save the day i'll kill them all right and uh we have a really quick i

02:22:44.080 want to shout out some people who uh by the way guys w's in the chat for graffito welcome back man

02:22:49.600 good to see you metro matt w's in the chat for metro matt thank you for the tts's guys and then hold on

02:22:54.640 here we have um shoot one sec guys uh yo i need to shout out some people yo uh elmer wheeler thank you

02:23:06.880 for the dollar on cash app wheeler thank you again for the five dollars michael thank you for the five

02:23:12.480 dollars dustin thank you for the seven dollars on cash app appreciate you guys if you guys want

02:23:16.720 100 of your contribution to go towards the whatever pod venmo cash app link is in the description

02:23:22.000 whatever pod thank you guys appreciate it also read is 100 tts is 200 also guys like the video if

02:23:28.320 you're enjoying the stream we have two three more chats here uh michaela you get to do the honors you

02:23:34.960 get to read alas behold the profound scholarship of our fin dom erudite that damn pesky first

02:23:43.280 amendment women don't need men curious how well your dainty little fin dom tuchus would prosper

02:23:49.840 and to hear in these days all right there you go do you want to respond to lucas okay so yeah i do

02:23:56.320 do fin dom and yes men are mostly my customers but again i think if i obviously i need men to do fin

02:24:03.840 dom right because women aren't that stupid but i'm sorry i'm just kidding um but you know shots fired

02:24:13.200 i could still do other jobs okay we have another one from lucas uh bella let me have you read this one

02:24:20.000 hey finny indulge me with a thought exercise walk around a bit and compile a list of everything you've

02:24:25.200 come across that was not put there by nature everything on your list was both invented but and

02:24:30.480 built by men you want to respond to that or everything on your list what does he mean by that

02:24:36.000 i think you listed a couple things um

02:24:41.280 originally this came in like 30 minutes ago so i think you're saying like uh i don't know women

02:24:45.840 they take care of their space and they're you know take they take better care of the the house

02:24:53.120 in the apocalypse oh the house was built by men men maintained and yeah i guess but i think women

02:24:59.040 could build houses like i could totally build a house you could okay you're i could definitely

02:25:04.560 build a house like what from scratch or just by yourself with a team of women sure i think with

02:25:11.040 maybe a team of that woman like if you multiplied her by 12 maybe but if i'm not sure about the whole

02:25:18.400 group here just a really really simple question for the house builder can you describe for me

02:25:28.320 a jigsaw how does a jigsaw work that's for you a jigsaw i don't even know what that is

02:25:36.560 what about a circular saw how does that work i've never seen one do you know the stud is okay hang on

02:25:44.640 hang on a stud just really there's multiple like isn't that like a leg she was about to point at me

02:25:50.640 brian isn't that like a dog that breeds or like a lesbian oh my

02:25:59.280 like wait like a masculine lesbian right

02:26:07.440 are we talking as it pertains to like in the context in the context

02:26:11.920 building no i don't know what that is no do you know the stud is no oh boy okay all right

02:26:18.720 well uh what's a hot guy what's a stud right a study what's a fendom i don't know what that

02:26:25.760 financial it means financial domination oh it means she's a terrible human being can i go in

02:26:31.200 just kidding we'll get to it we'll get to it we'll get to it um all right terminal lanced these delusional

02:26:37.920 women need to admit or actually no hold on bella go ahead these delusional women need to admit that

02:26:44.320 they live in a privilege or they live in privilege and don't want to do manual intensive jobs why work

02:26:49.680 12 hours a day lifting 100 pounds when i can show my butthole for 30 minutes and get the 5x critical

02:26:56.720 thinking i couldn't read that sorry 5x all right uh terminal lanced uh that i do appreciate your

02:27:04.000 message w's in the chat for terminal i mean i guess just the final thing on this it's like

02:27:09.680 do you have any appreciation for men you know like i can sit here and say i think women are great

02:27:16.560 but i i feel like you don't think that about men i think men are pretty cool oh yeah i think by the

02:27:22.480 end of this podcast i'm going to prove that you don't i don't hate men oh really i mean i just

02:27:26.800 think we need to like regulate them you called all of your customers you called all of your customers

02:27:32.400 the people that hire you for fin dom stupid for hiring you for fin dom they literally are i agree

02:27:41.280 i agree with you just well i very much agree with it you'll just insult them like that yeah i mean yeah

02:27:48.960 that's incredible that's incredible that's that's i guess i'll say this so men they're pretty much uh

02:27:56.000 they're responsible for nearly all the physical necessities comforts and conveniences that uh you

02:28:03.200 enjoy and obviously take for granted and are quite ungrateful for that's the firefighters police garbage

02:28:09.600 men plumbers uh you know when there's a fire or natural disaster we just had the palisade well you're

02:28:15.280 you flew in right from where florida okay i don't know well we just had the fires here in california

02:28:20.640 fire natural disaster crime power outage when you call a plumber who's showing up a man or a woman

02:28:28.000 it's a man yeah when shit hits the fan we're the ones that are gonna come not me i got a

02:28:33.200 fucking podcast i ain't doing shit but uh you know the other men out there who you're ungrateful for

02:28:39.280 uh so i don't know i wouldn't say i'm ungrateful for them i think men are pretty cool for doing

02:28:44.640 those jobs i just think that women could also step up and do those jobs if needed all right if needed

02:28:49.600 okay that's fine that's fine uh and this isn't i'm not like it's this isn't when i make these

02:28:55.600 arguments it's not like trying to dunk on women it's more so just like could you have an ounce of

02:29:01.040 appreciation for like the the the comfort that through men's labor has provided you oh yeah

02:29:08.240 definitely we're getting something i don't know maybe we're getting something i think it's ridiculous

02:29:13.200 to say that women like don't need men like that sentence in and of itself like man was created for

02:29:19.920 woman woman was created for man either way we're headed for an apocalypse we're gonna become an extinct

02:29:26.400 species either way but at the same time like yeah i think i think andrew made really good

02:29:31.840 points why are you guys so offended by that statement i feel like if a man said men don't

02:29:35.520 need women i wouldn't i wouldn't care is it because i'm not i think that men very much need women

02:29:41.440 very much need women by the statement we just really love mansplaining

02:29:49.040 it's true i i think that i think that men really really do need women i think without women

02:29:55.040 society falls apart you need this you need it it's good for you the toxic masculinity of

02:30:00.800 mansplaining when you're like i can build a house we go what's a stud and you go ah it's a it's a

02:30:06.240 animal that has sex with another animal that's the male i the dog that our confidence level in your

02:30:13.840 building ability goes greatly down so the thing is is like um so yeah i'm sorry sorry you have to

02:30:20.800 sit here and be mansplained too but if if it were the case that you were making logical reasoned

02:30:26.720 points i would be happy to listen to you like the gal i was talking to earlier she made logic reasoned

02:30:32.320 points right and then we have you who's not making logic reason points so we have to mansplain a bit

02:30:38.240 will you take that statement back like just after hearing all of us say those points would you say

02:30:44.000 like women can't survive or women wouldn't survive without women live as cushy of lives without men

02:30:52.000 sure oh boy but do women need men for survival do you want to keep going further about this okay you

02:30:56.560 don't no no no your question was fine it was more so just like i i'm not saying that this is not a

02:31:02.560 dunk on women but it's just like it's just the reality when it comes to the different representation

02:31:08.400 when it comes to men being in these critical infrastructure positions i'm not saying this is

02:31:13.200 like an own on women in this apocalyptic scenario all men instantly disappear within two weeks i'm not

02:31:22.400 saying this to be a dick 50 of women are dead easily now i just now a lot of men are dead a lot of men

02:31:30.400 also die in the reverse scenario but because like like he was saying in like in uh montana or places where

02:31:38.080 it's like freezing right now you need electricity and so like if once the electrical grid goes to

02:31:45.360 shit which i'm being dead honest here it will be gone within 72 hours people are dead 24 hours after

02:31:53.600 that so yeah 50 of women gone we just want a little bit of respect you know look if it happens in summer

02:32:00.000 you guys gotta look you're doing a little better winter time you guys are fucked i mean still

02:32:04.880 not in florida not as bad all right all right anyways whatever uh i got we'll get on to the

02:32:11.200 next thing here uh okay so um we'll do a few more viewers then we'll come back to some other stuff

02:32:17.440 we'll get some other people involved yes uh you said single mothers promiscuous and older women can

02:32:22.160 still pull when you say you've still pulled what do you mean like just like still get like still have

02:32:26.560 sex wait have like solid relationships or okay yeah absolutely do you yeah sure i mean they can

02:32:35.360 yeah i mean a woman who slept with 100 men or older women or single mothers can they still end up like in

02:32:40.400 a relation you by pull you mean like a relationship or just to have sex because when i think of pull i

02:32:46.160 think just both okay that's fine um do you think though compared to like so let's just look do one at a

02:32:53.040 time single mothers do you think single mothers fare better in the dating marketplace than childless

02:33:00.080 women no but that doesn't mean that yeah they can't that's fair your claim your claim is careful can

02:33:06.240 still pull right but i'm more so looking at like who's gonna have a better time but like some men

02:33:10.800 actually prefer single mothers um now sometimes it's weird because yeah sometimes it's predatory but

02:33:16.160 some men actually like to see that a woman is already a good mom before having a child with her and

02:33:22.080 i've actually heard men say that themselves like oh i actually prefer when a woman is already a mom

02:33:26.560 because i can see like if she's a good mom okay before i have kids with her the thing with single

02:33:31.840 mothers is then you would be raising somebody else's child and that's that's quite counter

02:33:40.000 evolution no it's not yeah i mean it is well i mean historically like if we look through like

02:33:47.040 throughout most of human history prior to us becoming modern humans humans like women were

02:33:54.400 very the women were very like polyamorous like you know men used to like impregnate or not impregnate

02:34:01.920 but like used to inseminate the same woman like they used to share the women wait is that i don't

02:34:07.440 know but is it true like women this was before we evolved like to have like the prefrontal cortex and

02:34:13.680 be like in tribal civilization no this is back when like humans were like like how we were more

02:34:18.960 closely related to chimpanzees like we were more oh when we were like hundreds of thousands of years

02:34:24.160 ago oh in sex before dawn it talks all about how in primal civilizations one man would have multiple

02:34:31.920 women right and this is when we became more similar to the modern humans that we are now i'm talking

02:34:37.040 about prior to that when we were closer to like our ancient like ape ancestors wait so before him

02:34:44.720 how is it before that that's like the original caveman like the original caveman i'm talking about

02:34:50.560 before the caveman like we were basically women had multiple wait so men were monogamous and women

02:34:56.640 had multiple partners uh no both were polyamorous both were poly but women take nine months to give birth

02:35:04.320 birth i don't want to talk about i mean they used to just they were just raising i don't know about

02:35:08.400 the children that weren't theirs it was it was like people were raised like we were living in tribes

02:35:14.000 humans had to stick together because we were always at the bottom of the food chain

02:35:18.800 okay yeah all right i don't know all right uh you said older women can still pull but do they

02:35:24.880 pull better than younger women i think it's like almost the same honestly i think i really do because i

02:35:31.200 mean a lot of people say oh like you're 35 you hit your wall but younger women don't want older men

02:35:37.440 like at least not significantly older men wait younger women don't want older men no i do really

02:35:43.920 i think when we i think when we say we want older men we're thinking like three to five years older but

02:35:48.800 it's not like i'm 19 and i want a man who's 35 i think that's i think that's pretty much essentially

02:35:55.600 exactly what most women want especially being a guy that has grown up seeing younger being around

02:36:03.200 younger women i i've been decently financially successful in my early 20s which is cool but at

02:36:10.880 the same time i have watched women overlook me simply because the fact that they are drawn to men that

02:36:18.560 look like they have it like put together like men almost in their 30s it's very very interesting

02:36:26.240 i mean i think i think generally speaking most women are dating men like around their age right

02:36:32.640 there's a greater proportion of young women who are going to date like there's going to be age gap

02:36:36.800 like 5 10 15 years but i i would agree generally speaking most women are dating men their own age but

02:36:42.560 there's like i don't know if it's five percent ten percent but you don't really see the reverse i think a lot

02:36:47.200 of girls have that phase where they're like oh i want a man who's like that old but then you

02:36:52.000 actually do it and it's like this guy is literally my dad would you date brad pitt no how about wait

02:36:58.000 do you have a type what's your type i'll find an old guy that you'll uh i mean i don't denzel

02:37:04.720 i don't have a racial type if that's jackie chan sorry i'm just trying to go through all that

02:37:09.520 who do you want i feel like maybe i would like sleep with these men but like i wouldn't like date them

02:37:15.600 no they would be like my father wait but didn't my father's if you dated someone your own age that's

02:37:21.760 like dating your brother no but i can at least relate oh oh you don't you don't have anything

02:37:28.480 for that i can at least i can at least relate to that person weren't you the person that had

02:37:32.720 originally said that women should date a man more for the financial side of things so wouldn't that

02:37:38.720 encourage younger women to date older men isn't that exactly what you're doing likely to have their

02:37:45.040 finances yeah who are more likely to be successful i mean it's different when you're younger like i

02:37:48.480 think i think if you encourage that if you encourage women go out and like date people

02:37:53.680 date men more based off of their financial situation you're gonna have a lot of really young ladies

02:38:00.240 dating really old men or even maybe you could argue that late 20s 30s and yeah i mean i think yeah you

02:38:06.400 said women should prioritize finances in the man so like a 20 year old she's gonna date a 20 year old

02:38:11.360 college guy who doesn't make any money like what in your world view if he's willing to give her money

02:38:18.960 like take her on dates and stuff 20 year old college guys don't have money like that typically

02:38:24.320 they can have a job bruh they can have a starving college student she say no over here they even if

02:38:30.320 they have a job they're probably i don't think like i don't think women i do think women should date

02:38:34.240 older just not like significantly older like i think women generally prefer like three to five

02:38:38.640 years do you think just two two very brief questions can you respond first to your first

02:38:43.840 argument which was that would be like dating my father how come it's not like dating your brother

02:38:47.520 to date someone three years older than you because you don't have to deal with the mansplaining and

02:38:52.160 like just dealing with someone who you don't understand your brother doesn't mansplain

02:38:55.600 don't lie no my brother does not mansplain okay well most people's brother i mansplained to my

02:39:00.800 sister so the thing is is like why i don't understand how it is that even mansplaining would

02:39:06.240 have a difference in age like you think that because you're 20 and he's 25 that the mansplaining

02:39:12.320 goes away because it doesn't go away it's to a lesser degree because i feel like older men they talk

02:39:17.200 to you like you don't know any better and you're just like you're literally a child to them but it's

02:39:21.360 like why are you attracted to me if i'm like a child to you it's just weird that was interesting

02:39:27.120 what's weird about it it's just like it feels does it give you the radio does it give you the

02:39:35.920 ick yes it does it gives you the ick well let me ask you a question uh since we're on the ick can

02:39:42.080 you give me a single moral argument a single one for why it would actually be immoral for a 20 year

02:39:49.360 old woman to date or marry a 50 year old man just a single argument that's actually shows that this

02:39:56.000 is immoral well for the woman i don't think it's immoral i don't think it's immoral for younger

02:40:01.120 women to like older people or for younger people why is it immoral for the 50 year old man who has

02:40:06.240 a woman who's 20 who's interested in him to be interested in reciprocate her feelings uh because

02:40:12.080 younger people like i think like once you're under the age of like 25 21 maybe you have higher

02:40:18.400 levels of neuroticism you are dealing with hot and cold cognition you are dealing with peer pressure

02:40:23.840 you have a lack of identity so we shouldn't let them vote shouldn't let them vote yeah um

02:40:31.760 i think that we can have like i don't necessarily i think that certain privileges can be afforded to

02:40:38.000 i think that certain levels of privileges can be afforded to different um

02:40:41.040 i don't understand if they're neurotic and stupid and can't make these decisions but somehow you're

02:40:46.960 going to charge them with the fate of the nation what can you explain that rationale against it i

02:40:55.920 wouldn't be completely against it so you want to raise the voting age to 26 okay so then once they

02:41:01.520 get 26 and their abdulla oblongata is fully developed or whatever um then it would be okay

02:41:08.800 after the abdulla oblongata reaches the fruition of abdulla oblongata-ness for them to then date a man

02:41:15.200 who's 50 at 26 right yeah i don't like for example right i don't think that there would be any moral

02:41:20.800 issue with like a man 50 dating a 30 year old woman like a 25 year old woman okay help me out with one

02:41:26.560 more thing the prefrontal cortex i agree with you it's fully developed in women at about age 26

02:41:31.920 but something interesting happens and i'd like your take on this do you know that after it's

02:41:35.920 fully developed it starts to decay so since it starts to decay by the time you're 50 it's in

02:41:42.880 a rapid state of decay in fact in most people so isn't it the case then if that's the truth that a

02:41:48.720 50 year old is actually probably more equally yoked with a 20 year old because their prefrontal cortex

02:41:54.480 is in a state of decay just like the 20 year old no it's just wait why because that 50 year old

02:42:00.640 actually has knowledge and life experience whereas that's also it doesn't come down to

02:42:04.320 the prefrontal cortex it comes down to me i never said it came down to the prefrontal cortex yes you

02:42:08.800 did you that was the primary i said that you're dealing with higher levels of neuroticism a lack

02:42:13.040 of self-identity you're dealing with the same things you would find in a 50 year old due to the

02:42:16.800 prefrontal cortex i wouldn't i would have to see some research on that i wouldn't be sure well i

02:42:21.360 mean it decays after 26 you can look it up right now it decays after 26 years old becomes in a

02:42:26.160 state of decay so that means it's been decaying for what 20 years so wouldn't they be more equally

02:42:32.240 i mean you could probably argue that there might be something immoral like of like a younger woman

02:42:38.320 dating like a 70 year old or something because they're really out of it but like oh yeah so

02:42:42.720 i wouldn't see like a 50 year old is still pretty cognizant to me so wait so a 20 year old and a 70

02:42:48.640 year old that would be fine but a 20 year old and a 50 year old not fine no that would not be fine

02:42:54.080 why wouldn't it be fine i think that the 20 year old would probably at that point i think it would

02:42:59.360 it would be sick on both sides at that point like so then so then what's your argument here reduces

02:43:04.240 to then it would be sick even though they're mentally at about the same level so does this

02:43:08.880 mean then that no 20 year olds today at the same level why why aren't they if a 70 year old has in

02:43:15.200 a state of mental decay the 70 year old probably just doesn't remember things and forgets things and

02:43:20.320 like a 20 year old is again dealing with higher the 20 year old would be taking advantage of the

02:43:25.280 70 year old probably for its money or something okay so so actually your argument here then reduces to

02:43:33.280 this andrew nobody under the age of 26 should be dating because they're high in eroticism they make

02:43:41.040 bad decisions they make bad choices so why should they ever date anybody until they're 26 they can't

02:43:46.320 even make informed decisions why not raise the age of consent then to 26 can you tell me why why we

02:43:51.840 shouldn't do that because i mean i think people who are 26 can just date each other yeah i know but but

02:43:59.200 why shouldn't we raise the age to 26 if people can't make good decisions before the age of 26

02:44:06.480 i don't think we should because i think to a degree you are like an adult by the age of 18.

02:44:11.280 oh you're an adult but you can't choose who you date you can choose to vote you can choose to join

02:44:16.880 the military you can choose to do all of these you can choose to smoke you choose to do all these

02:44:20.800 things but you can't choose who you date really you can choose who you date i just think that

02:44:24.720 okay so why would it so why would it be immoral then for a 20 year old to date a 50 year old can i

02:44:29.840 make an argument here can you let her finish hers okay yeah i mean just think about it so first of all

02:44:36.000 all like if you're a mother you're in this you're competing in the same dating market as your daughter

02:44:42.800 you could potentially be talking to the same man why is that immoral it's disgusting like why is it

02:44:49.520 immoral if i use the argument that we should have no no lgbtq because i found it disgusting would you

02:44:55.440 accept that as an argument no it's just that i know then don't use disgusting as an argument tell me

02:45:01.120 why it's morally wrong i just think it's morally wrong because again like the older man

02:45:05.760 would be taking advantage of the younger woman due to her having a lack of identity and but i don't

02:45:10.960 disagree with you why are they allowed to date at all until they're 26 because if they're not

02:45:18.160 competent enough at 20 to pick their partner right why are we letting them pick their partners when

02:45:23.920 they're incompetent you are taking advantage of them right no because by allowing them to make those bad

02:45:30.160 decisions like the two 20 year olds don't have any advantage over each other i got i got a quick

02:45:35.040 question here quick question for you so your your concern here is um you said taking advantage of

02:45:42.240 right so like predatory abusive right these age gap relationships are predatory abusive

02:45:48.640 predatory sure i mean what you said taking advantage of what kind of abuse are you talking about

02:45:53.280 what you said taking advantage of right yeah okay so but you would acknowledge that age gap

02:46:00.640 relationships aren't always that way maybe not no or do you think all age gap relationships

02:46:07.840 the older individuals taking advantage as you put it of the younger individual yeah generally like

02:46:14.400 every naivety and but could you imagine a singular age gap relationship where the older individual is

02:46:20.080 not taking advantage of the younger individual maybe so what would your objection be in that case if there's

02:46:25.520 no taking advantage of and it's an otherwise healthy relationship the older individual has good

02:46:31.280 intentions what would be your argument against an age gap relationship an association with like

02:46:36.400 the usual dynamic of that kind of relationship but i just i mean i can i butt in i said that there's

02:46:43.360 good intentions i'm not going to investigate every single age gap relationship like i'm just going

02:46:47.920 yeah but you're admitting that many i generally see the patterns to be well but i i very much agree

02:46:53.520 with your point when you said that women should take the man's finances into consideration when they're

02:47:01.840 dating and they should date for finances but at the same time if you flip it back around i also think

02:47:07.840 that men should be able to date for attractiveness so you would agree with that but in the case of a 50

02:47:14.160 year old and a 20 year old that's just him exercising that right and saying hey i'm 50 years old i want

02:47:20.720 to date a young attractive 20 year old like pure woman does that make sense he can go for 25s women

02:47:28.000 women in their mid-20s are still attractive but what if he wants a 20 year old there's no there's no

02:47:32.320 problem with him there's actually scientific evidence that 20 to 23 is peak attractiveness to

02:47:39.040 male men of all ages for women so that's actually that's true that is a good point i'm not trying to

02:47:44.480 argue their point because i actually i have been in a relationship where i was underage in georgia the

02:47:49.760 age of consent is 16 i was 17 we're not talking about underage relationships right but that's the

02:47:54.400 age of consent so so that was a relationship that i felt like was not fair because of the age gap and

02:48:00.400 there is a dynamic within those relationships where there is kind of an authority you know on the man

02:48:06.320 over the woman so it's really just if you think that that's appropriate in a relationship then you

02:48:10.880 think that an age gap is appropriate in a relationship if you don't think that's appropriate

02:48:14.400 then you don't think that is an appropriate relationship hold on i'd like you to i'd like

02:48:17.920 you to repeat what you said so a 20 year old is a what like usually 20 year olds have the phenotype of

02:48:25.360 a child like of a young wait wait hold on hold on hold on wait wait wait wait wait let me investigate

02:48:30.720 this a little bit um you so you said your original statement was a 20 year old is a child yeah so

02:48:37.920 that's what so are you talking but you were now you're talking about their uh how they look physically

02:48:42.800 but uh what about mentally is there a mental component there too uh i wouldn't say they're a

02:48:48.720 child i would say they're just when you say phenotype you mean their body yeah i think most 20 year olds

02:48:54.640 look really young do you look so you look childlike no not me i mean i'm the exception no no but hold on

02:49:01.280 so just to be clear so but actually let's investigate this so let's say there's a 30 year old who has

02:49:07.760 this phenotype that you consider childlike so a man who's attracted to a 30 year old with like perhaps

02:49:13.360 she's not very curvy perhaps she has like a small breast or small butt you would say he's a pdf file for

02:49:18.960 dating a 30 year old woman and he's 35 yeah that's actually if he's attracted to that wait so

02:49:25.040 hold on just to be clear like so you're saying that i wouldn't say he's literally so just to be

02:49:30.320 clear you're going to throw women under the under the bus who are perhaps not developed in the breast

02:49:34.080 or the butt or aren't curvy you're going to say that they're basically one that they aren't deserving

02:49:38.960 of like a relationship or the men that are attracted to them are pdf files really no i'm that's

02:49:44.320 literally what you're saying if that's what he's specifically attracted to if he's

02:49:47.920 attracted to that look and if he thought that because a lot of times like i've met i've you

02:49:53.280 know worked with people and like i've worked with this one woman she looked she was like 27 but she

02:49:57.520 looked like she was 19 but if you're attracted to short women say a guy likes short women you can't

02:50:03.200 just say oh you're a pdf file because you like short women and you literally younger people are

02:50:09.680 usually short wait wait so you're figuratively this is a fair a fair analogy let me let me just ask you

02:50:15.600 a single question are you saying then that it's immoral for men who are attracted to those women

02:50:23.040 to date them yeah like i would not date a man who looks like a teenager when i was a grown woman

02:50:31.120 hang on so so men who are in relationships with women who love them who look like this

02:50:37.920 phenotypical expression that you're talking about should the man should leave because he's doing

02:50:42.640 something wrong right no i don't think he should leave i just don't think men should be attracted

02:50:47.920 to that in the first place like then it's not immoral it is immoral to be attracted well how

02:50:54.320 is it immoral if you're telling him not to leave because again like i don't know how this relationship

02:51:00.000 arises she's actually of age for all i know you know he could have he's 30 years old but she just

02:51:05.040 has the phenotypical expression that you would consider to be childlike and he's attracted to that

02:51:09.440 i think are they doing something immoral yes or no are they doing something immoral i think that the

02:51:22.960 man is immoral for being attracted to that and seeking out that phenotype in the first place

02:51:27.760 okay but they're together now is he doing something immoral by being with her no because he now knows

02:51:34.800 what you're saying is that pdf files as long as they're with the person who loves them aren't

02:51:39.760 immoral that's because he knows this woman he knows how brilliant he knows can you let me speak

02:51:45.360 can you please let me speak he knows how old she is now he knows how old she is he knows her her

02:51:52.000 mindset and her level of maturity now like it's it's a relationship so i'm talking about like for

02:51:57.120 example the example i was trying to give where i was working with this woman who was 27 but she looked

02:52:00.880 like she was 19 and she gets approached by men and they're like how old are you like while she

02:52:05.440 looks like a teenager and they're like oh she's like oh i'm 27 and they're like oh i thought you

02:52:10.560 were like 19 i was like i'm sorry you're over here doing pdf file apologetics you're over here saying

02:52:16.000 that men who are with women who look like this phenotype are themselves pdf files and should stay in

02:52:22.320 those pdf files if they're attracted to that you're a pedophilia if you went if you approached

02:52:27.840 a woman who was apologizing for pdf files oh my god okay yeah can we get some more input from the

02:52:34.400 other girls on the panel like if they agree or if they think the same yeah we'll like open it up on

02:52:38.880 the age gap thing i do want to continue just a little bit here i mean i'm just i'm really confused

02:52:44.000 because so you know sophie rain i'm sure you know who she is yeah right okay so this is a woman who's

02:52:50.000 fairly curvy big butt i don't know if she she got some cans some sadly i don't know she's like 19 but

02:52:57.760 i think she started doing like uh social media stuff of maybe at 18 i think she's 19 now um putting

02:53:04.320 aside the fact that she's a sex worker strumpet uh you you're going to tell me that she's like

02:53:10.640 she would fit the phenotype of an older woman so you would prefer men dating her even though she's 19 but

02:53:18.320 she has like a more developed figure versus like a 35 year old man versus a 35 year old man dating

02:53:24.080 like a 30 year old woman who's perhaps like not as you know maybe her breasts aren't as large her

02:53:29.040 butt's not as large she's not as curvy you think that i'm just trying to understand the logic no i

02:53:34.160 think sophie rain looks like younger than what she actually is like in the face she looks 14

02:53:39.360 or her body is now it just has to do her body is grown but her face looks young but she looks

02:53:44.960 like she's 20 i believe she looks her age i don't know what she's 20 actually and okay she's 20 fine i

02:53:50.320 mean what do you so which one i'm just which one is worse in your in your world like for example jenna

02:53:57.600 jenna ortega i think is her name the hispanic girl who did the gothic

02:54:02.320 yeah jenna ortega roll wow so just to be clear you're gatekeeping like like if a woman just what

02:54:09.760 if i mean that's just her genetics she's just you know i'm not saying she's ugly i'm not saying

02:54:14.640 any of that but if a man is attracted to that specific phenotype and that's what he usually goes

02:54:19.120 for then that would probably be signs of well even if she's 30 years old wait hold on just to be

02:54:25.920 clear again i'm not gonna date a man who's 30 years old but looks like he's 17 like i'm just not

02:54:30.880 doing i have a question for you so when it comes to like do you agree that like when it comes to

02:54:34.480 childhood nutrition like that's gonna have an impact on your development and there's some

02:54:38.560 countries that have like oh my hold on hold on there's some countries that have like worse childhood

02:54:43.680 nutrition you'd agree with that and so this is going to have an impact on uh you know like perhaps

02:54:49.520 how they develop right maybe i think that's stop stop stop hold on okay so just to be clear i want

02:54:57.520 you to make a statement that men who find women who live in certain countries who perhaps these are

02:55:03.440 developing countries the third world countries men who are men in those countries who find that body

02:55:09.200 type attractive because hey perhaps there's not a good nutrition whatever that these men across the

02:55:15.920 board in these countries who are not well developed they're pdf files in this country they are not pdf files

02:55:22.560 but they oh no no no hold on if they're attracted to that specifically then yes what what if the

02:55:28.080 what if the majority of the what if you know that they're adult women then you're not a pedophile

02:55:31.360 what if the majority of the what the women in those specific countries have that phenotype are the

02:55:37.040 men pdf files i mean no as long as those women are of age

02:55:43.840 can i ask as long yes they're yes they are of age they're adult women yeah what about but they're

02:55:49.520 attracted to the phenotype which you said indicates that these men are pdf files i think that you know

02:55:55.040 if that's what their specific type is and that's what attracts them then yeah okay so there there are

02:56:00.480 certain asian countries that i can think of where like these are developing countries and because of

02:56:05.200 this like the childhood and you know throughout their teenage years the nutrition isn't necessarily

02:56:09.520 there this is going to perhaps have an impact on you know their bodily development you know when it

02:56:14.160 comes to for example height height in these countries is lower because it comes down to

02:56:18.800 nutrition right so are these men who live in these countries are they pdf files

02:56:25.600 no because they're dating and we can say this about latin america we could say certain latin

02:56:29.360 american countries we could say those men look like children we could hold on we could hold on we

02:56:33.360 could say this about certain countries in africa i just want you to say that the men in these

02:56:37.600 countries are pdf files go ahead they're adult women what about runway so okay so then what's the

02:56:45.280 problem what's the problem with an adult man dating an adult woman who and this woman happens to have

02:56:52.160 the phenotype which you think is not developed enough it's if you look again so again with the

02:56:58.400 actress jenna ortega right she literally looks like she's 14 but she's like i like how old is she i think

02:57:04.160 she's like 23 yeah i don't know but like who are you to dictate what a woman is

02:57:11.680 now you're gaslighting me i'm not saying what a woman you're saying that that like i'm just trying

02:57:16.400 to understand like so a woman with small breasts for example an a or b cup you don't think she's

02:57:21.360 like deserving of love because of her body i'm not saying that i mean that's kind of what you're

02:57:25.360 getting at because the people that would be more likely to be attracted to her but what you're

02:57:29.600 donated two hundred dollars ask women to open a pickle jar we already did i don't know how that

02:57:35.680 got you i don't even know we already did she opened it i have a question hold on one sec one sec it's

02:57:40.480 just like you're you're basically these like if a woman has an a cup or a b cup one you're just the

02:57:49.920 men who are attracted to her like it's not about her body type it's about her face you said phenotype

02:57:54.560 yeah phenotype includes the face can we talk about like it's not just about like women who

02:58:00.720 are flat chest wait so okay just to be clear so you'd be okay let's say there's a 14 year old who

02:58:05.200 looks like she's 25 you're okay with like men being attracted if he's attracted to that girl

02:58:10.480 then he's attracted to what a girl but if he finds out her age and he's then that would be

02:58:14.160 metafilia yes i don't know you're doing some crazy apologetics if she looks like a grown woman and

02:58:18.640 he's attracted to the way that she looks this is consistent so what she's saying is consistent so

02:58:22.560 she's saying this okay and you let me just steal mana you can tell me if i get your position wrong

02:58:28.160 she's saying if a man is attracted to a phenotype which looks adolescent then he's a pdf file that's

02:58:34.720 what you're saying so you're saying that if a man was attracted to though to an adolescent who

02:58:41.440 had the development of like a 25 year old so he wouldn't know so he is not a pdf file right

02:58:48.000 if he didn't know her age and he's attracted to the way she looks then no that would not be

02:58:52.480 pedophilia right so so i'm correct right exactly i still made your position correctly yeah okay so i

02:58:58.160 just have one quick question for you do you agree with me and do you agree with brian and and the men

02:59:04.000 here and i'm sure every woman here that if a man were engaged it with a woman okay who uh had you know

02:59:13.120 he found out was in that age bracket he didn't know before um that that he should leave immediately

02:59:19.760 even if she had those same phenotypical adolescence she like phenotypically looked adolescent but he

02:59:25.600 thought she was 25 or whatever he should get away immediately if she is actually underage right he's

02:59:30.720 doing something wrong yeah okay great but if the same man was engaged with a woman who phenotypically

02:59:39.200 had that expression who was 25 you say he should stay how's that not pedophile or pdf file apologia

02:59:45.520 can you explain that to me wait because what you're saying is you're saying if you are a pdf file

02:59:51.440 and you're engaging in this activity you should stop immediately and then you hold a double standard

02:59:56.880 for the same man who's engaging in that same nature of activity by your own admission so you're

03:00:02.480 apologizing for the pdf file there's no way around it no because that woman would actually be of age

03:00:10.880 yeah but but he's attracted to that phenotype which means he's a pdf by your own admission

03:00:18.240 and if you're saying he should stay with her then that means you're doing pdf apologia

03:00:23.920 okay yeah sure actually i can get behind that yeah he would be

03:00:26.880 so you are a pdf apologist thank you thank you how am i a pf apologist though it's not actually

03:00:34.800 pedophilia if she's a baby just you literally just said that if he's attracted to that phenotype

03:00:41.920 he's a pdf if you didn't say they should stay together because they love each other because they're

03:00:47.040 both of age then you are saying that this pdf right should be with this woman even though he's

03:00:53.120 a pdf your your p it's pdf apologia you're saying that as long as you're attracted to that phenotype

03:00:58.240 and the chick still likes you it's fine yeah no and but okay so he should leave her then right

03:01:06.480 i don't think he should leave her oh well then i guess i just think he would be he would be a weird

03:01:11.520 person like why do you want this pdf to be with this woman what sort of monster are you because if he

03:01:18.080 was a pdf he would actually be with a child oh wait a second so now we have a distinction don't we so

03:01:24.960 now you have said now that a pdf actually is not a person attracted to this phenotype it's a person

03:01:32.400 who's with a child so you just switch your argument that's it it's over it's done now we have a clear

03:01:39.920 distinction as to what you actually consider a pdf to be yeah again so again if he's initially attracted

03:01:46.960 to this phenotype that would make him a pedophile but if he's already in the relationship and he

03:01:54.320 he this woman is grown she has a grown mentality she's he knows her real age then no it wouldn't

03:01:59.600 be pedophilia why would you want her to be around pdf file

03:02:04.480 i just oh oh oh oh what are you talking about

03:02:09.760 if he's if he's attracted to that phenotype he's a pdf file right yeah and she should specifically

03:02:17.440 attracted to that phenotype she should stay with him because she loves him when wouldn't you demand

03:02:21.360 that she get away from the pdf file i mean i probably would if he was specifically attracted

03:02:29.840 to that now you would now you would it's like it's like a tooth with toothpaste no because i

03:02:34.640 didn't understand what you were saying before but i get what you're saying i i just you see how you see

03:02:39.440 how silly this is totally silly makes no sense it does it absolutely does if you're attracted to a

03:02:45.040 woman who looks like a child you're probably a pedophile i bet this sounded really good on paper

03:02:50.560 until you thought about it for two seconds like it makes no sense you're actually advocating this woman

03:02:55.840 stay with a person you consider to be a pdf file which is pdf file apologia do you get it now i don't

03:03:01.360 know wait hold on are do you believe in like body positivity yeah okay that's fine but i mean why

03:03:08.240 why are you gate gatekeeping like what an adult body looks like like you do realize women come in

03:03:14.720 different shapes and sizes i'm not gatekeeping you're literally you're saying you're telling us

03:03:18.480 we can't be just saying as a man if you're not attracted to a curvy woman with large no i never made

03:03:24.160 any specific statements to the phenotype i'm just saying if you look at someone and they look like

03:03:29.040 a kid they look like i have a 12 year old niece she's taller than me she has big boobs like big butt

03:03:34.560 i'm 25 i've been five foot four 120 b cup no but somebody since i was 15 so my 12 year old i'm not

03:03:43.840 talking about the body type i understand that women can have flatter chest women can have smaller hips

03:03:48.240 to me and i'm smaller how does that make him like that's just preference i believe right and and when i

03:03:52.400 was doing runway modeling right and i was literally like narrow like i did not have any curves on my

03:03:57.360 body it's not about that is a body type you're talking about i had a literal if he's a cactus

03:04:02.720 i was so small so no but it's not just that a man is allowed to date me but before when i was doing

03:04:08.160 runway a man wasn't allowed to date me like that doesn't make sense to me yes like a man shouldn't

03:04:12.800 be attracted to a child but having boobs or having a butt does not make you a woman that's not what i said

03:04:18.720 that's exactly you guys keep putting words in my mouth i never said anything i never said anything

03:04:22.800 about button boobs i asked you about curves i asked you about boobs i asked you about but i never said

03:04:28.240 anything to that yes you indicated towards women who have smaller breasts smaller butt i said less

03:04:33.600 curvy children huh women who look like children both out which so 15 all the time and when i was doing

03:04:41.680 look i'm just saying i feel like women already struggle enough when it comes to like body image

03:04:46.160 issue stuff and like now you're trying to add on some extra layer now stop stop stop stop shut up

03:04:51.680 stop interrupting so now you're adding on another layer here where like women who do have this phenotype

03:04:57.920 now need to all of a sudden be concerned oh is this guy i really like this guy he really likes me

03:05:03.280 is he a pdf file do you realize how crazy that is a woman with a cup or b cup breast oh i oh my god

03:05:11.440 that's literally what you're advocating for women already struggle enough with that

03:05:14.640 shit why if she has a baby face like for example sophia rain baby sophia rain we were talking about

03:05:21.840 she looks like a kid even though she has a curvy body okay so so it would be wrong for me to be

03:05:25.920 attracted to her that would be pdf yeah that brings up a whole different camera that's more

03:05:30.640 complicated because her her body looks grown no commit to the position is yeah am i a pdf file if

03:05:36.080 i'm attracted to sophia which come on commit to the position no because she doesn't look like

03:05:40.240 she's 14 she looks like 19 you said in the face that she looks like how about he just saw her face

03:05:45.920 he never saw her body then yeah but no but he knows that she's 20 but never seen her face just

03:05:52.400 uh excuse me never seen her body just her face but he knows she's 20 is he a pdf file

03:05:57.600 well if he knows he's 20 then well help me help me out with this if he didn't know then i would say

03:06:04.720 yeah i just i'm just i'm just very if he didn't know yes last question uh just a just a yes or no

03:06:10.640 here uh would be appropriate but you can respond long form if you need to i'm just curious these women

03:06:17.040 who do have these phenotypical expressions that you say in men and who are attracted to those

03:06:21.200 phenotypical expressions are pdf files would that not entail then that that woman should only be

03:06:27.360 with men who aren't attracted to her no she should just be with me well i don't understand how could

03:06:34.240 she be with a man who was attracted to her unless that man was a pdf file i just think that you

03:06:41.200 should probably oh my god damn bro i gotta come to the defense of like women with small titties bro

03:06:48.560 you're you're doing a lot you're throwing a lot of shade at like small titty women bro oh my god

03:06:52.320 that's crazy you know pull a little respect yeah pull a little respect on the the small

03:06:56.480 titty committee wait wait can i please get an answer yeah can you get an answer how could a woman

03:07:02.240 who had those phenotypical expressions have a man who's attracted to her and that man not be a pdf

03:07:09.520 file can you explain that to me a man who knows her age a man who no no he doesn't get to know her

03:07:14.800 through her personality no no he doesn't know her age okay he's attracted to her okay he assumes

03:07:21.360 that she's overage right but he's attracted to her the based on those those phenotypes specifically he's

03:07:26.720 attracted to her wouldn't all men who approached her to have to do it based on the fact they're not

03:07:34.000 and even you know what even better even if they knew her age right but were just attracted to that

03:07:40.720 phenotype right you would still have to concede here that this woman could not be with any men

03:07:47.520 who were attracted to her based on her phenotype because they would be pdf files therefore no men

03:07:54.320 who were attracted to her could actually be with her right i see what you're saying there can you answer

03:08:02.320 i'm not gonna like i'm not i'm i'm agnostic on that because i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say

03:08:10.880 that women shouldn't find love with men who are of their age just because they look younger i'm not

03:08:17.200 gonna say that okay i'm agnostic on that wait that's how about this that's great

03:08:24.800 whatever bro uh yeah well i can get a beer um wait how about this so what about women who are

03:08:30.960 attracted to tall men i think that this is actually evidence of of uh not not the pdf stuff but it's

03:08:39.680 actually evidence of of incestuousness what how are you gonna connect that here you go this is this

03:08:47.440 is the same this is the same like totally bogus uh toaster brain logic so because you as a woman when

03:08:55.120 you were young you looked up at your father and you like admired your father because he was so he's so

03:09:00.400 tall that's that's why you're attracted to tall men is because you look you're you women who are

03:09:06.400 attracted to tall men are all incestophobes we're getting into some sigmund freud shit average on

03:09:12.400 average men are taller than women so that would explain like i see what you were trying to do brian

03:09:17.920 yeah i see what you were trying to do anyways whatever sorry brian didn't work

03:09:23.360 is that a dad joke uh we have mustafa i thought you idiots were quitting this stupid joke of the

03:09:30.960 podcast here's some dollars used to get the real job all right you're right man thank you must

03:09:35.600 i'm gonna become a uh a power line guy or something uh i do also need to do some shout outs here for uh

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03:09:55.360 all right let's uh get into this here we're gonna have stifler come in here with a question

03:09:59.520 stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven

03:10:04.960 starting with uh starting you know what hold on i'm gonna go bit out of order here starting with

03:10:12.080 you i mean i would pick seven but i guess i'd say eight okay uh going back to mikayla and then back

03:10:19.520 i'll say ten ten okay six six all right wow nine that's all right ten ten okay i would say seven

03:10:29.680 but six all right i think i'm ten ten okay i'd give myself an eight all right on camera i look like

03:10:38.640 an inbred five but in real life i'm a nine wait i missed that last part the the an inbred five on

03:10:49.840 camera no no the the last part i think i'm an um an eight okay we'll go with that what do you what do

03:10:58.240 you give yourself i stick with a consistent eight i give myself a five andrew what about you

03:11:03.360 why i'm clearly a tent oh no andrew wait wait why are you laughing you don't believe that

03:11:13.520 not without the beard and you're not you don't believe i'm a 10 not without your makeup on

03:11:20.480 it's not just a subjective value

03:11:24.720 it's not just how i feel that makes me beautiful there's something else that makes me beautiful

03:11:31.520 other than that what would that those things be my opinion are you asking you know from your

03:11:38.400 viewpoint are you a 10 or are you asking from the view of society would you be considered a 10 because

03:11:42.960 that's yeah that's what the heart of the question is do you think that we care about the opinion of

03:11:47.200 but well first of all most people are going to lie about this right so the thing is is uh yeah

03:11:52.320 we're asking you from the observer's standpoint what do you think the observer if there's a hundred

03:11:56.960 men who all rated you what would it average out to what would the average be for me personally yeah

03:12:03.840 i mean i i don't wear makeup or anything to alter my appearance more towards a higher end of the scale

03:12:10.240 so i don't know if that's something to take into consideration but with that said i would say that i

03:12:16.080 would be considered around an eight just from what people have told me in the past and that's you know

03:12:21.840 just what then i'm a 10. okay you can be a 10. then i think that what i don't understand why are you

03:12:26.960 laughing because i don't know what people have rated you i'm not gonna i it sounds like you don't believe

03:12:33.440 me okay it sounds like i don't think that looks are the most important thing maybe i'm wait you think

03:12:41.200 i'm delusional you think do you think that i think you are delusional from this podcast

03:12:47.280 the thing i think about myself in my head isn't true you know i i think that looks aren't the most

03:12:53.680 important thing but yeah that's not what i asked you i understand what you're asking me and from my

03:12:58.880 perspective you are not my version of a 10. so i can't speak for other people i'm not in their brains

03:13:04.640 but from my perspective you're not a tenant yeah i'm not asking you from your perspective i'm asking

03:13:09.120 you from the average woman if a hundred average women rated me clearly they'd put me at a 10 right

03:13:14.960 i can't speak for the average woman because i do not have the minds i'm not asking you to speak

03:13:19.440 for them i'm asking what you think okay so you are asking my me my opinion on how i would rate you

03:13:24.800 then i can't speak on how you think other women would rate me so you say are you saying that that's

03:13:29.360 still from my opinion though that that's what i would believe you would be rated that doesn't make

03:13:33.440 any sense if i intricately don't logic isn't there how all other people feel about being murdered

03:13:38.800 i can't make the general statement that they won't like it see so that's something that's a

03:13:42.880 moralistic issue your looks are not a moralistic issue before you start spurging out i would like

03:13:49.360 you to answer directly the question i'm asking do you think that i could not assess that most people

03:13:57.040 in the world would not want to be murdered even though i'm not most people in the world

03:14:01.600 that is a moral view can you answer the question i am answering your question i'm just not answering

03:14:06.880 it how you'd like that doesn't mean no you just won't answer it period okay so give me a what is

03:14:13.360 it is it yes or no because if so give me yes yes or no can i assess that or not repeat your question

03:14:20.240 explicitly yeah if i say i don't think most people in the world want to be murdered right can is that a

03:14:26.240 fair assessment even though i'm not most people in the world yes but that is a more of the reason

03:14:31.680 for that wait stop hold up but let me explain the reason for that the reason before behind that go

03:14:36.720 ahead is that that is a moralistic view that is taking someone's life your looks have nothing to do

03:14:42.720 with whether or not someone wants to be murdered that is taking their life right so your looks are

03:14:48.320 not something that i can objectively say i don't know how people in india would rate you i have my views

03:14:53.760 from my perspective in california you think i objectively know their morals no i don't

03:14:59.120 objectively know their morals i'm saying from my standpoint i think most other people would not

03:15:04.560 want to be murdered and i think that that's what all of them think i could make value assessments on

03:15:09.440 what i think other people would think even though i'm not other people you can do the exact same thing

03:15:13.920 you can say i think most people would say like oh i don't know a person who came out of the icu with

03:15:19.440 half of their face melted off and a phone sticking out of their head and most of their phones missing

03:15:24.880 most people wouldn't find them attractive okay so do something parallel do something you could actually

03:15:29.440 say that and that would be fine yeah right but do something parallel say like um the you know the

03:15:34.640 average person would rate insert celebrity's name at this level like that's a parallel somebody dying or

03:15:40.960 being killed is not parallel to your looks and how people would view you i can't say that well wait a

03:15:45.520 second then how come i can say with great certainty that a person with half their face melted off who

03:15:50.400 was missing most of their bones and you know they had scars all over the place and uh when when most

03:15:55.600 people saw them that was the type of person who went oh my god right i can make the value assessment

03:16:00.320 that most people would find that unattractive but you're saying that i can't make the determination

03:16:04.400 of what most people would find attractive i think that that's silly and by the way you yourself

03:16:09.520 already gave us many standards you said earlier in this uh conversation for instance that you think

03:16:14.640 that most men are attracted to women between the ages of x and x no i didn't i didn't say i believe

03:16:20.000 that that is a scientific study i also studied psychology in school so you're you're considering

03:16:24.240 this 21 to 23 that that's saying that that's their peak attractiveness looking at them throughout the

03:16:28.960 lifespan versus women must share certain characteristics with each other in this case

03:16:34.240 youth right so youthful youthfulness that's women not men unless you identify as a woman i can't rate

03:16:39.200 you based off of that no you can because we have in that same study what what most women find

03:16:45.680 attractive don't we no so that same age bracket don't we right right so to me again so that makes

03:16:51.520 it it makes it my personal opinion because i am of a certain age now if i was of another age let's say

03:16:57.280 i was a 50 year old woman like i don't know however old your wife is then i might find you more attractive

03:17:02.880 at that age than a younger woman looking at you because it's a different age bracket women i'm not

03:17:08.560 they integrate with age men just stay the same they they find 21 to 23 the most attractive

03:17:13.600 throughout all age groups women do you think that most people would think okay here do you think

03:17:18.400 most people would think a tyrannosaurus rex was big how does that have to do can you answer my question

03:17:25.520 do you think most people would think a tyrannosaurus rex was big yes how are you making that value

03:17:31.680 assessment you don't have any data for it whatsoever there's not a single study you've read where people

03:17:36.480 were pulled about whether or not a tyrannosaurus rex was big hang on stop stop let me finish this is

03:17:41.440 illogical stop stop there's not anything you have to base that on other than you have an assessment

03:17:49.120 and you think most people would agree with this assessment and you think most people would think

03:17:53.680 x but for some reason you can't apply that same standard here tell me why because that is in again

03:17:59.440 a comparison between a large group of people right just like you're saying a large group of people would

03:18:03.680 not want to be murdered yes that is an easy thing to understand a large group of people who are

03:18:08.720 average in height would be much smaller than a t-rex it doesn't even matter if you're the tallest human

03:18:13.760 being you're going to be smaller than a t-rex so that is something that can be seen from an objective

03:18:18.480 scale now subjectively i can tell you it's not objective big isn't objective big is subjective

03:18:24.560 what is big to you is not big to me but we can make the value assessment of what most people you don't

03:18:30.080 have any data to prove what most people would find to be big you just make the value assessment for

03:18:34.800 some reason though you can't say what most people you think what most people would find attractive

03:18:39.120 even though you yourself in this case actually have data for it which would be youth they men are

03:18:43.600 attracted to you if that's the case right there's going to be all sorts of shared features okay i i can

03:18:49.040 speak from my age bracket for me yes that would be something where you can make it more objective of

03:18:54.960 women my age bracket would not find a man as your age as attractive as a man within the four years

03:19:01.680 that they are in whatever whether it's 21 whether it's 26 it doesn't matter like they're going to

03:19:07.040 find somebody more attractive that is within their age bracket it's scientifically proven now i cannot

03:19:11.840 tell you you can make value assessments on behalf of other people look at that within my age bracket

03:19:17.040 that is that is well i mean whatever i when i say most women right you're beautiful is that what you

03:19:23.200 would like to hear you can make an association between all women in the 20s 30s 40s 50s and 60s

03:19:27.920 and still in your head over some type of general average you think would be reasonable

03:19:32.160 so if i say i'm a 10 you say well for me you're not 10 for me you're not 10 and i say well what do

03:19:38.080 you think most that's a great impression of my voice thank you so much i say what what do you think

03:19:42.320 most people would think well i'm sorry you're right it was a bad impression what do you think most

03:19:47.600 people would thank you yeah yeah i appreciate that now i'm trying to get better for you that's

03:19:51.440 great yeah what what do you think most people would think i think most people would think that

03:19:56.800 from no you didn't even have to do the impression i already nailed it thank you i already nailed it

03:20:01.120 like you didn't even have you know it's funny because we were having a discussion earlier and

03:20:03.840 you were being very kind but after that last discussion you've gotten a lot more aggressive

03:20:08.400 because people don't like to answer direct questions they like to do what they do is they do

03:20:13.040 what in your boat you would call like a motorboat right where it it goes like this it goes everywhere

03:20:19.120 except straight because you have waves you have all this going on yeah yeah yeah so what happens

03:20:25.600 is you ever tried to drive a motorboat before yes i have you can't keep it straight on the water not

03:20:30.640 when there's waves and so the thing is is like what's going on here is the same thing when i ask

03:20:34.800 you a direct question you obfuscate you go to everything except answering the question and i

03:20:38.400 don't do that to you so yes it's frustrating for me i answered in a subjective way i cannot answer

03:20:46.880 objectively i have not done a poll of these women the data that i'm basing my claims off of are

03:20:52.880 thousands of women and thousands of men i cannot objectively create a poll of how attractive you are

03:20:59.280 maybe if i did that on social media we could see i'm asking from your subjective metric what you think

03:21:03.680 most women would think subjective okay so so that's different that's different that that's not what i

03:21:07.920 asked you originally that was not what you originally said and if if it was then we

03:21:11.120 miscommunicated and i apologize for my side of that so anyway so that's my question okay so so

03:21:16.000 what would i rate you that's your question what do you think most women from your subjective metric

03:21:20.560 would rate me okay from my subjective metric i would give you a five and that's also if we talk about

03:21:26.560 how you've been berating women i'd give you a four because personality increases what does that have to

03:21:30.960 do with my looks it's it's in the expression on nothing it has nothing to do yes nothing yes it

03:21:37.680 does self-respect and respect towards others does have to wait i have never spoken i have never spoken

03:21:44.720 right you've never spoken you've spoken this whole time

03:21:50.160 hold on hold on hold on how can it be that the value assessment of looks goes up if a person has never

03:21:55.120 said a word no no no if somebody is a kind human being and they have a good personality that

03:22:00.560 automatically increases their points it's that's literally proven charisma what does that have to do

03:22:05.600 with anything about looks looks how you look it shows on your face what type of personality you have

03:22:13.440 what does it have to do with how a person it's how you hold your face it's like talking to a wall

03:22:18.560 what does it have to do with how a person looks andrew now you're a three okay you're losing points

03:22:25.040 all right are we gonna get into the negatives wait so i'm i'm just a little bit confused though you

03:22:31.200 made a statement about how uh but because he's been bombarding that's not the exact word to use

03:22:36.800 bombarding these women so wait just to be clear he simply he's been disagreeing with people yeah yeah

03:22:43.440 he's been pretty no no but but this i mean so the original conversation i will say you were very

03:22:48.160 kind and and it started off it was positive but then by the end of it you were very impolite

03:22:55.360 and not allowing anybody to actually say so i don't consider politeness and or nor do i consider

03:23:00.560 niceness to be a virtue okay that's fine so it was my subjective view on your looks and i i

03:23:05.200 take that into account to be virtuous if you were a man all right we're just going to keep going

03:23:09.760 there's not going to be a solution so let's just stop mrs i love equality am i allowed to talk back

03:23:14.160 or no yes sir so mrs mrs i love equality if you're a man sitting right there to talk to you exactly the

03:23:19.520 same okay and the only difference is is you wouldn't care because you'd actually answer my in questions

03:23:26.960 okay good talk

03:23:29.200 honestly yeah let's end this conversation all right jay that was great i'm saying you want

03:23:36.000 gibberee uh not a good note so i'm gonna read a chat but i have a follow-up thing on this lucas

03:23:40.800 actually you know what michaela go for it me yeah she can read it

03:23:47.120 and yet again an amalgam of vapid ineptitude combined with diluted and unearned high self-esteem

03:23:55.200 okay bubble bursting time each and every one of you ranks as nothing more than a mediocrity wow

03:24:01.120 all right lucas coming in hot well we did have a 10 a 9 a 10 and a 10 uh so pretty high you know

03:24:07.840 i'm a pretty good casting director getting like the most beautiful women job brian i'm hold on i'm good

03:24:14.400 um uh the most gorgeous the most gorgeous in the world you always find them right here on whatever

03:24:20.640 you know what i'm i need i need some more you know maybe i'll hire somebody i mean we need some

03:24:24.800 background characters you know so we'll see um but you do have one man here who's a 10 so i mean

03:24:29.680 that is that is you and all other men are held andrew that is true i mean to be fair andrew you

03:24:35.760 without the beard i downgrade you to a nine from a 10. that's what i was saying you need to get the

03:24:39.600 beard back okay all right just saying this has had an absolutely biased opinion i will not have

03:24:45.200 i do have a beard assaulted this way by you brian all right i apologize i'm sorry um

03:24:50.560 well wait a second hang on now oh now i'm being mean again right that's that's that's me being

03:24:55.840 mean and can you i saw tone police miss tone police back there shaking her head look i'm sorry totally

03:25:03.680 i'm sorry i made a joke it's okay calm down we do have a message from uh we got a message from

03:25:10.240 rachel wilson andrew wilson's wife when andrew finally oh we should do a rachel wilson cameo uh when

03:25:15.440 andrew finally loses his cool a bit after three hours of trying to get you to answer a simple

03:25:18.800 question in a straightforward way you accuse him of being difficult while no self-awareness

03:25:23.280 that's from rachel wilson andrew wilson's wife maybe maybe a cameo later andrew yeah you know that's

03:25:29.120 the thing that gets me right it's like i actually hold uh you women to your same standard right so i

03:25:36.080 literally hold you to your same standard i agree with you that you deserve to be treated with respect so

03:25:41.600 what i want to do is ask you straightforward questions and get straightforward answers and

03:25:46.560 i'll do the exact same to you this is how i communicate with every man on planet earth

03:25:50.480 for reasons i don't understand immediately if the hey is this true goes well it could be

03:25:58.080 because it's based on it's like no you don't believe any of that just give me the actual answer

03:26:02.800 uh somehow that's not being nice or that's not being polite yet when i talk to men this problem

03:26:08.240 doesn't exist it's almost like there's a standard which they're holding that they think women should

03:26:12.720 be held to as opposed to standards men should be held to which is why i don't believe in this

03:26:16.720 equality shit i don't believe it i just don't believe them personally what i do want to uh get into

03:26:23.360 here is uh there are a couple a couple tens at the table do you guys think those of you who ranked

03:26:29.520 yourself a 10 and we did have one nine so the nine gets to jump into uh do you guys think that all women

03:26:34.960 are tens no no what into the mics guys no no no oh okay that's good anybody does anybody think all

03:26:47.120 women are tens anybody going once going twice can you point it okay can you point at any woman at the

03:26:55.600 table ashley who's not a tent go ahead and point at her just any anyone will do just uh just a single

03:27:12.880 one would be okay no it's fine just just one yeah i'm gonna go get another beer all right

03:27:26.720 we don't want to be held to a different standard oh yeah uh we're gonna do a follow-up question on this

03:27:32.480 so do you think some of you said 10 9 so you're very attractive right now um but moving into the

03:27:41.040 future uh do you think you will be better looking better looking in 10 years time mikayla you're 22

03:27:48.960 uh do you think you'll be better looking 10 years time at 32 um yeah okay what about 20 years time 42

03:27:58.480 yeah okay 30 years time 52 better looking

03:28:01.840 yeah i don't know okay uh 40 40 sure 40 years time 62 um yeah sure uh 50 years time 72 yeah

03:28:20.320 it took some milk okay uh 60 years time 82 yeah

03:28:26.640 70 years time 92 yeah 80 years time 102 yeah i'm still alive no you're still yeah i know you're

03:28:39.600 still alive are you are you more attractive when's your peak when are you gonna peak uh like attractive

03:28:45.120 as in like my physically like look look better yeah she just walked all the way up to 100

03:28:50.080 she's gonna be hot she's gonna be hot that's fantastic like in the nursing home just like

03:28:57.280 macking on the alzheimer's not like attractive as in like like so there's no personality in it at all

03:29:04.160 or like no better looking just looks just straight up looks when's your peak like 72 or i don't

03:29:11.680 um maybe 30 30. okay so backtracked a little bit a little little backtrack just a little 70 year

03:29:23.280 backtrack all right 30 years old all right you're 20 uh better looking in 10 years time at 30. no

03:29:28.400 maybe like five years but not 10. okay all right uh you're 20 years old better looking 10 years time

03:29:33.520 at 30. yeah probably i probably have some plastic surgery by then what if you didn't have the plastic

03:29:39.040 surgery still better looking probably not okay let's but we'll keep with the plastic surgery 20

03:29:45.200 years time at 40. i'll still look good but i won't look better probably not yeah and just just

03:29:51.840 clarification um you can still be attractive 30 40 50 you know uh that's not what i'm saying

03:29:58.480 there's plenty of women tracked but it's like a comparison to how you look now versus 10 years 20

03:30:04.240 years 30 years if you'll be better looking um so 20 years time at 40 yes no no okay uh you're 23

03:30:12.880 shelby better looking in 10 years time at 33 yeah better looking in 20 years time 43 no okay you're

03:30:19.120 20 years old better looking in 10 years time at 30 yeah better look 20 years time 40 yeah 30 years

03:30:26.720 like it like 40 i feel like right there okay yeah got it uh 40 better than 30 or 30 better than 40

03:30:35.200 um 30 better than 40. okay but 40 still better than 20. no actually no let me go back 40 40 sorry wait oh 40

03:30:45.200 okay but then not 50 though no okay all right you're uh you're wait hold on you're 33 sorry i got numbers

03:30:53.840 mixed up you're 33 better looking in 10 years time at 43 probably not okay and you're 33 where are you

03:31:00.240 better looking now 33 than you were at 23 yes okay uh you're 25 better looking in 10 years time at 35

03:31:07.520 yeah 20 years time 45 probably not okay uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years time at 31. yes but

03:31:16.480 after 35 now okay is 35 the peak i i would think yeah by 35 i would start to be as attractive and then

03:31:24.960 you're 28 better looking in 10 years time at 38. no but milf energy still

03:31:30.880 all right and then uh you're 28 better looking uh 10 years ago at 18 i'm better looking now better

03:31:40.240 looking now but going to uh back to you uh you seem to acknowledge that uh you you cited a study that

03:31:48.080 they did where men found women between i think you said what is it 18 to 23 24. i know that contradicts

03:31:53.280 my point yeah so so um on that personally i think that i right now am not as fit as i will be at that

03:32:00.560 age because i plan on circumnavigating so i'll be on my boat full time i'll be fishing i'll be diving

03:32:06.800 i'll be doing my own like work on the whole so i'll be a lot more fit since i'll be making all my own food

03:32:12.400 i'll have to like garden off the back of my boat and i just think that lifestyle i will be at the point

03:32:16.880 where i'm going to be more attractive physically because it's such manual labor that i will have

03:32:21.680 more muscle mass and i'll be more what about all the sun exposure yeah that's exactly what i was

03:32:25.840 gonna say i was like i also make my own sunblock so i'm i mean right now you can see how white i am

03:32:30.560 i mean even with sunblock there are going to be some like aging yeah by 50 by 50 for sure that's why i

03:32:35.360 said 35 like i think 35 that's also you have to realize i mean as women get older they start to lose

03:32:40.800 muscle mass so that's something that i think will make me less attractive right your skin gets a little

03:32:44.720 bit looser unless you do something to fix that and you lose muscle mass so i am real about that and

03:32:50.480 i think yeah once i you know start to age i'm not going to be as attractive after 35.

03:32:57.840 okay all right uh

03:33:01.680 uh damien do we have how many batches do we have one or two you know what we we have we have used

03:33:09.280 technology to age all of you forward and we're going to review some photos and we're going to

03:33:17.520 see you know do you you better look in some of you said i mean over here 102 she's going to be

03:33:23.840 she's going to be sugar spice everything nice so um let's pull it up

03:33:27.280 you're so cute that's not bad okay that's really not bad that's you know what age is that so sweet

03:33:35.280 oh no chick's a milf that's like uh uh 40 50 maybe and you hey you said you're going to be like

03:33:41.840 babe status till 100 when i'm at the retirement home i'll come find you all right there you go

03:33:47.200 all right uh next whoa wait hold on you you kind of became white i don't know what happened

03:33:58.480 you look like a white woman i don't know uh i mean i get it okay next oh my god

03:34:05.520 oh my god it's so bad what happened with the jaw on this one go back too

03:34:11.200 no it's it's racism it's racism there's no way i'm not gonna look one sec go back go back to

03:34:20.960 mikayla uh so i'm gonna have each of you uh pick uh more attractive younger picture or more attractive

03:34:30.240 aged oh yeah my younger my younger attractive okay next younger younger self more attractive here okay

03:34:37.600 next i think which one's more attractive oh my gosh younger yeah okay next

03:34:45.680 okay wow wow

03:34:49.600 like a trailer park younger that actually looks realistic which one more attractive ouch

03:34:57.280 i i i think she's gonna look better than that she's gonna look better but it looks real

03:35:03.120 which one uh the younger one okay next these are all you know younger younger honestly like photogenic

03:35:13.200 everybody is everybody why do i look like no that gave me like muffin face like it looks like a

03:35:20.400 there's something going on with the darker skinned women yeah the jaw the jaw is not working it's not

03:35:25.520 not registering what next oh you're so cute you look like you make really good cookies

03:35:36.560 still got that lesbian energy that is what i'm talking about

03:35:43.520 next okay oh dang girl

03:35:47.600 that's actually not that's not bad which one's which one is do you think is more attractive um

03:35:54.800 i think younger okay next i don't want to see it yeah that was horrible what did it do to my that's

03:36:01.200 not bad it's not not even bad it's like you have botox on your forehead uh yeah i just got a big wait

03:36:07.600 is there a difference no there's none actually which one's there's a bit there's a bit man you have

03:36:13.760 the best one so far yeah okay all right i mean uh yeah okay uh surfer chick next oh you're so cute

03:36:25.360 that's my nana

03:36:28.160 does she look a bit like britney spears a little bit

03:36:32.800 i don't know okay and then next in college they would just scream britney let's see it

03:36:37.200 oh my god you look like you look like the doctor off of race anatomy

03:36:40.800 oh my god

03:36:44.800 that right there next

03:36:46.400 mcdreamy oh my god

03:36:50.400 here we go andrew next of course

03:36:56.240 not the natural aging process do you have another batch or that was it okay check if another one

03:37:03.520 comes through but uh all right we have uh i'm gonna have uh bella read this one go ahead bella

03:37:10.800 from lucas thank you lucas props brian always bringing tens uh a caval cavalcade of the face

03:37:18.960 that lost our face that launched a thousand ships all hell hellens of troy of troy

03:37:26.160 crew come on you know how to say this you know the second oh circum there you go

03:37:30.720 oh you're too slow here i'll pull it back up i'm literate uh looks like we got ourselves a snowflake

03:37:37.760 fervor fernand magellan

03:37:39.600 who's that i don't what this is roasting with that this is like i was gonna circumnavigate

03:37:44.640 what is a ferdinand who is that and also isn't snowflake snowflake a liberal

03:37:51.520 i guess a conservative could be a snowflake i think a snowflake

03:37:54.160 lucas w's in the chat for lucas man like someone who's easy does anyone know who that is

03:37:59.920 ferdinand i i don't tell you i know who helen of troy is i need to do a couple shout outs here

03:38:08.240 super quick guys if you want to support without a cut being taken venmo cash app whatever pot uh

03:38:14.880 call in thank you for the 10 if you're not doing the pod do you have any trade skills i don't harrison

03:38:19.200 douglas thank you for the five on venmo fishing lol yo thank you man appreciate it all right guys

03:38:25.360 we are going to uh actually wait the whole wait hold on i have a i have a question before you move

03:38:30.880 on go for it for the for the male guest actually i was i've been kind of taking some notes um as

03:38:37.200 you've been kind of issuing out some of your arguments one of the things you said i think i may

03:38:41.200 take disagreement with you brought up that you think that young women should be attached to

03:38:47.040 finance wait sorry one thing i got it i gotta interrupt really quick i'll let you i'll let

03:38:51.680 that conversation go canute raided with a yo uh canute i i know who you are man he's like a shredded

03:39:01.680 like bodybuilder guy also i think he's plays world of warcraft yo thank you so much for the raid man

03:39:07.120 appreciate it um this guy's like a streamer og uh really appreciate the raid dude i didn't know you

03:39:12.640 watched uh the podcast thank you so much man uh we also got a bodybuilder here you want to maybe

03:39:17.440 you know him do you know canute i i've never give him a double buy i can't even see what fuck bruv

03:39:23.360 oh my there we go bro yo uh thank you so much for the raid man we're actually um we are talking about

03:39:31.840 uh nothing to do with bodybuilding or world of warcraft all right i don't know what is he yo uh

03:39:37.520 hold on i'll pull up the twitch chat what what was he streaming uh the raiders from can am i

03:39:43.440 first off canute am i saying his name right am i saying his name right let me do a shout out shout

03:39:49.600 out uh canute what was he streaming uh twitch chat what was he streaming tell me newt yes canute is

03:40:03.520 right he was arguing with ai somebody in the chat says drop the cycle blonde guy uh 100 he was

03:40:11.760 lifting he was lifting in the gym oh he mostly does irl i i think i i was watching the uh the only

03:40:18.880 things meeting from a couple days ago and i saw him i think i saw him he was like the the rip guy in

03:40:25.120 the beanbag yeah i saw him yo canute man really appreciate the raid anyways um back to it sorry sorry

03:40:30.240 andrew i just wanted to uh shout it out just because it came in right then and there the

03:40:34.160 show the show must go on show must go on um go ahead andrew must go on so you were when you were

03:40:39.680 talking earlier one point of agreement that you seem to have quite a bit is that young women should

03:40:44.000 focus on uh choosing based on finance i think that it's okay for them to do that yeah i don't have

03:40:50.960 anything against they should do that you agreed that they should i think that they should choose

03:40:56.800 someone who has the ability to provide for them yeah i agree that maybe i shouldn't say should i don't

03:41:06.160 think that there is a moral problem with a woman deciding to be with a man because of his financial

03:41:18.240 situation that's how i sure is sure do you do you think though that that's extremely valuable to a woman

03:41:25.040 to be with a man who's financially set do i think it's extremely valuable i think it is valuable

03:41:34.000 yeah i think it's valuable yeah i agree so my question is don't you think that young people

03:41:40.000 are really stupid when it comes to money and the assessment of money and the assessment of a future

03:41:45.280 planning for themselves when it comes to money most most young men yes 100 then why wouldn't you

03:41:51.280 promote arrange marriages i actually that's really funny that you get into that because

03:41:57.120 i am not completely opposed to arrange marriages i i really don't have i don't have that big of a

03:42:04.400 problem with it in fact my mom teases me about that because she says brandon will just have to get

03:42:09.760 an arranged marriage for you yeah so you're not but you're not opposed to arrange marriage i'm not

03:42:14.720 completely opposed to it considering the person that chooses the match does you know knows i would

03:42:24.720 say knows both the parties and under under understands understands good matchmaking i would

03:42:30.880 honestly i would be afraid i would get set up with someone that i wouldn't want to be with but then

03:42:36.240 again that is the downside of arranged marriages so well the father and mother would be the chooser

03:42:40.960 right yeah and i think i think my parents would do a pretty good job what if they can't agree who

03:42:46.000 get who gets to make the ultimate decision definitely my dad your dad okay so then so then ultimately you

03:42:53.440 would be a patriarchist right yes well okay yeah then that word is loaded but yes talk why all this talk

03:43:00.800 of egalitarianism from you tonight why all this equally on equalization talk from you what what are you

03:43:07.440 talking about the egalitarian what have i said that was equality i'm well yeah go ahead no no you go

03:43:14.480 ahead you can no i i am i am not pro equality uh in terms of yeah like the discussion that was going

03:43:22.320 on earlier i think that i think that you were right when you say that christianity is patriarchal and

03:43:29.360 i very much agree with the church's decision to not have females in the clergy okay gotcha i wanted to get

03:43:36.240 some of these so here's the thing right um you've been somewhat okay i'm not gonna lie to you right

03:43:42.160 you've been a bit attacked in these chats um because well one they don't know you and we haven't

03:43:48.160 really gotten a chance to get to any of your positions and i think now is a good shot you get

03:43:52.480 a good time to actually get to some of those positions that sounds great yeah so you are a

03:43:57.200 patriarchist you do believe in arranged marriage you do think that that's actually a good idea it's not

03:44:02.880 not the worst idea if we come down to an arranged marriage it should be the father who chooses

03:44:08.000 yeah i would i would say that it that would that could be the case yeah gals at the table can i just

03:44:13.200 get a raise of the hand any of you who would agree with that nobody's agreeing with that one nobody

03:44:20.400 oh wow you got one for business reasons for business reasons can you not have the hat on what

03:44:31.280 you want to expand on that um um i have to think about a little bit but two families coming together

03:44:40.560 for the greater good um i just putting your all your work and blood together and money is part of

03:44:48.960 that and who you marry into is important

03:44:54.400 okay all right well i just wanted you know it's nice to get your positions out there a little bit

03:44:59.280 you know what i mean there's been a there's been quite a bit of crosstalk and it seemed like there was

03:45:03.520 a lot of ground given when we would get to kind of the uh the talk of egalitarianism but it's hard to

03:45:09.760 determine from these from the listener standpoint if this is an internal critique you're doing

03:45:15.280 or if these are positions you hold and so there's a good chance for you to expound on those positions

03:45:19.920 does that make sense yeah for sure no i think that the man is the is the patriarch of the family i think

03:45:27.520 that he has the overall say i think that society in general should be based more around the nuclear family

03:45:35.360 and the man assuming those positions i think that we've steered away from that i think that

03:45:40.240 it ultimately it ultimately points us in the direction of chaos as women become more masculinized

03:45:48.560 and you know men become more feminized you know part of my job you know as a fitness coach and with a

03:45:55.840 lot of the guys that i work with i honestly i just help them become more masculine and sort of take on

03:46:03.360 more masculine roles i encourage them you know as a coach to go out there and try to become more of

03:46:09.440 a man so that we can continue to advance society in the right direction because i think there's been a

03:46:14.880 lot of chaos with equality and i yeah i don't i don't agree with equality i don't think there should

03:46:21.680 be equality before brian moves on i'm sorry yeah i i understand how this always seems to the guests but

03:46:27.680 because there's so many people here you try to get to all of them um so just kind of my last question

03:46:33.520 is like ultimately if we were to ultimately reduce your worldview to like some semblance of a thing

03:46:41.200 that we could easily make uh palatable to everybody who's listening it sounds like you're on the kind

03:46:48.240 of christian nationalist also patriarchy camp would that be correct i would i would say that that is

03:46:54.320 correct can i ask you a question what am i getting roasted for in the chat i'm genuinely interested

03:46:59.920 what's the biggest well listen you have to understand that if people don't know you and

03:47:04.800 you have thousands upon thousands of people watching you not everybody always understands

03:47:09.200 the distinction between if you're doing an internal criticism meaning you say hey let's dive into these

03:47:14.960 views i agree with this i don't agree with this versus your actual stance do you understand the

03:47:20.000 distinction yeah thank you for giving me the opportunity to sort of put that out there yes

03:47:24.320 i'm very pro patriarchy i'm not pro equality and yeah i'm a christian nationalist is an extreme

03:47:35.440 way of putting it but yeah i definitely do think overall you know this nation should return to basic

03:47:42.720 christian values i was raised my dad's a pastor so he's a pastor presbyterian pastor and

03:47:49.840 i went to school and i studied you know christian apologetics and things along those lines

03:47:55.360 that's that's my camp well we got we got that out of the way there you go thank you all right um

03:48:01.360 can i have you read this michaela oh boy thank you lucas before it disappears holy

03:48:08.960 shit the level of illuracy mcgallen was the first man to circumnavigate the globe you are a snowflake

03:48:15.920 your butt hurt because andrew isn't nice he's direct pointed and forthright that's laughable

03:48:22.080 laudable okay yeah quick response quick quick response please okay well i'm sorry that i also

03:48:29.520 hurt your feelings apparently because you felt the need to put that in the chat but i didn't know who

03:48:34.400 the first person was who circumnavigated so thank you for that that's good knowledge to have

03:48:38.880 thank you but just just also it's just magellan yeah okay magellan i was

03:48:47.680 what okay i don't understand no you're just a little solipsistic like i feel like you think

03:48:51.840 everything is directed to you or about you but i was actually directing i was making the magellan

03:48:58.880 what just forget it just forget it um i didn't follow that one so yeah um all right um

03:49:08.720 well pull up twitch really quick because i just want to shout out twitch yo guys if you're still

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03:49:19.040 and a prime sub if you have one guys if you enjoy these streams just drop us a follow if you have a

03:49:24.400 prime sub drops a prime sub sabrina thank you for the prime bronzy thank you for the prime appreciate

03:49:29.040 it guys thank you thank you all right let's get back into it uh we have a lot to get over so i'm

03:49:33.120 going to try to do it as quickly as possible uh let's go to mecca mecca you said why do you guys

03:49:38.160 think that just because you had something casual with them that you want to move things further like

03:49:43.600 can we keep things chill no label be cool not looking for anything more

03:49:48.320 yeah because i feel like some guys like if you think they're cute or like you hooked up with them

03:49:56.400 i feel like they think as a girl like you're more emotionally like attached and it's like no you're

03:50:02.720 just cute that's it that's all like i don't want to be anything with you i don't want to further this

03:50:07.520 but like i feel like they get that like they're like you know you want to keep talking to them it's

03:50:14.320 like yeah we can still be friends but that's it are you saying that you you're using men for sex and

03:50:20.880 they're having a problem with that too i mean they no i get the problem they're like well they like

03:50:28.400 automatically think that i think or girls in general think that oh she wants more it's like no do you

03:50:34.560 think that the assumption is correct that most women tend to pair bond with men obviously like during

03:50:43.280 sex and that's why they expect the woman to become more emotionally attached or do you not believe

03:50:48.800 that that's a fair assumption um i mean i've met girls like that but i've also met girls like

03:50:53.520 that have the same like ideas me it's like you can still like hook up or like be casual and like

03:50:58.560 leave it at that do you would you say that that's a masculine quality for a woman to have to use

03:51:03.600 a man to want to use someone for sex um i guess i don't really thought about it that way but

03:51:10.080 because you know guys women are becoming hyper masculine can i say something here from a

03:51:15.520 scientific perspective women actually release oxytocin um when they have sex with somebody

03:51:20.640 at least once they've had sex three times versus men don't so that it is true that women will be

03:51:26.400 bonded to a man you know whether or not you actually give into that and you like force yourself to not

03:51:30.800 have that your brain's still going to release the oxytocin if you've slept with a man for more than three

03:51:35.040 times versus men don't have that reaction actually sometimes if they have sex with a woman and they're

03:51:40.560 not in love with them yeah they have the opposite reaction where they no longer find that woman

03:51:45.040 attractive which is a very if i sleep with a woman she releases it on the first time

03:51:52.160 brian you're a virgin brian stop what do you say yes what do you say do you feel more empowered

03:51:58.480 by like going around and sleeping with men and then sort of almost getting back at them at

03:52:05.040 sort and sort of using them for sex because girls so often use men for heaven forbid these men want

03:52:11.040 a relationship oh my god these fucking they're terrible people these fucking scumbag

03:52:16.880 wanting a relationship with you mecca fuck those guys wait

03:52:21.520 fuck those pieces of shit you're a single mother aren't you so you're you're a single wait you are

03:52:26.960 right yeah so you're a single mother and you're not looking for like actively not looking for a

03:52:33.280 relationship yeah no i don't even like i'm like saying that as like when i was like younger like

03:52:38.000 i noticed like a lot of guys be like they think you want more and it's like no like we could just you

03:52:43.440 know fucking move on from all of my experiences with single mothers i feel like they are no i can tell

03:52:50.400 you with 100 certainty every single single mother that i have had an interaction with was desperate

03:52:58.000 to be in a relationship that is a that's a personal thing so i can say that you are i get hit up by

03:53:05.280 single moms a lot i can genuinely say you're the first single mother i have ever met that wasn't

03:53:10.240 actively looking to get into it yeah because i feel like for me also it's like i don't want to introduce

03:53:16.000 another guy into my kid's life that why because i would have to like get to know you for like a

03:53:22.240 good while because that's just like the different level but don't you think that the kid having a

03:53:28.080 father figure is well she still has her dad just because we're not together okay so they you guys

03:53:32.800 split the time yeah okay okay so she does have a father yeah okay but you obviously broke it off with

03:53:40.960 this man because you thought that he had characteristics that you didn't like that

03:53:46.400 you didn't really want to continue to be associated with so why would you let that rub off on your

03:53:51.360 daughter instead of going out and actively seeking to find like a masculine man that can be a good

03:53:57.280 example for your kid well i broke off with my my kid's dad because he cheated so people always say

03:54:02.640 oh you're not a good example i'm like why would i want my daughter to stay with someone that cheated on

03:54:06.000 her especially while you're pregnant dealing like with like being a mom for like the first four

03:54:11.120 months i wouldn't want my kids to go through that so so wouldn't you want to find another man that

03:54:17.440 wouldn't do that that would instill those values in your child yeah but that's not my priority right

03:54:23.520 now and also like you don't have a kid right no i do not so i feel like once you do have a

03:54:29.040 i'm a virgin you don't want everyone around your kid like you wouldn't want everyone around you

03:54:45.680 you wouldn't want just any guy meeting your kid so you'd have to vet them yeah yeah of course do you

03:54:50.640 think that i have a question for you do you think your kid would approve or would you approve of your

03:54:58.480 kid like being who you are right now going out and like sleeping with guys and not looking for

03:55:05.520 a relationship is it a daughter it's a son right it's a girl it's a girl okay so perfect that fits

03:55:10.880 the analogy if you would you approve would you want your daughter going out and sleeping with multiple

03:55:18.000 men not looking for a relationship if she wants to do that she wants to just

03:55:23.440 who am i to tell her no she's gonna be a grown woman you think you'll say that when you're older when

03:55:27.680 she's out there doing that exact same thing do you think you'll give her that advice you know

03:55:30.720 she's over 18 and it's consensual and she can fuck who she wants to fuck i don't give god i don't care

03:55:37.280 that's very interesting it's just interesting what do you think her um just just a quick question

03:55:43.120 like let's say that you were with a good man what do you think he would say wait what if you were with

03:55:50.880 a good man right who was like an excellent role model for your daughter what do you think he would

03:55:55.920 say um my question was posed to him my kid's dad or the guy the new no no that's not what i ask listen

03:56:03.680 listen closely what i'm asking if you were with a very good man what do you think his response to

03:56:09.920 the same question you were just asked would be um i don't think he could say anything because that's not

03:56:16.080 his kid so i wouldn't even allow him to be in that place to say to her so then if you were with a good

03:56:23.360 man you would say that the good man's place was not to tell his stepdaughter not to be permiscuous

03:56:33.120 um i feel like a good man for me would have the same like ideas

03:56:36.800 so the good man not sure why that triggered again but okay a good man to me would like someone

03:56:46.880 that's like uh like-minded and thinking so if if i don't care what my kid's doing and that's not your

03:56:52.240 kid you shouldn't care either well why would he ever want to be in the position to uh be a stepfather

03:56:59.200 to your kid if he was not in a position of authority well to a certain extent but well what

03:57:07.040 extent he's not allowed to have input on her promiscuous lifestyle like what she's over 18

03:57:15.840 no because she's an adult why not she can make her own i'm sorry do you does do you have a mom in

03:57:21.440 your life yeah does she give you advice yeah aren't you over 18 that doesn't mean i have to listen

03:57:29.200 yeah but what did she tell you i asked what he would say not that she would listen

03:57:34.320 is it your mom's place when she gives you all that unasked advice that you don't

03:57:37.760 fucking care about where you're like shut up mom i'm tired of hearing this i hate

03:57:41.440 enough mom enough get out of my business mom no but she doesn't care she gets in your business

03:57:47.200 anyway because she loves you right yeah yeah and so don't you think a good man would do the same thing

03:57:55.040 yeah but most parents don't really like i don't talk to mom like she doesn't ask me about

03:57:59.040 like sex and stuff like but every every parent and a child has like well hang on does is it that

03:58:05.760 she wouldn't care or is it that you'll admit it like if you went to your mom and you were like hey

03:58:09.840 mom you know like i've been sleeping with a lot of dudes would she be like uh yeah you should stop

03:58:14.640 doing that she would probably like girl why are you telling me this really yeah she wouldn't she

03:58:20.400 wouldn't give you advice like stop doing that she would probably just say are you being safe about

03:58:24.720 it but she wouldn't she's not like you know like that to say anything like negative about it

03:58:32.320 you think that that's good parenting

03:58:36.240 um i mean yeah i mean it's not really her place yeah what i mean where does her place end

03:58:44.560 what do you mean well like do you ever call your mom and go hey it fucked up and i need some money

03:58:48.560 or hey i fucked up and i need a place to stay or hey i need some help with this or hey mom can you

03:58:54.560 help me with this and you should do that because you're my mom sometimes yeah but isn't the expectation

03:59:00.880 the same if you're the kid you hold the dignity and the the charity of the entire family and so

03:59:06.480 our name lives on through you so i have certain expectations for you isn't that totally reasonable too

03:59:11.680 yeah but what goes on like that type of stuff that's not really like public information so it

03:59:16.320 doesn't really matter i need a final point on this all right what i'm saying is is that i think a good

03:59:21.360 parent step parent or not if the answer is what would your what would the step badge say if you're

03:59:27.760 asked the same question he was a good man your response is the same thing as me i wouldn't stop

03:59:32.320 her from being promiscuous and doing bad life decisions and things like that i would say the

03:59:37.120 opposite is true if you had a good man a good man that he would say no don't be promiscuous stop doing

03:59:42.800 all of this behavior it's bad for you and bad for everybody else i think that would be good

03:59:47.600 parenting adult or not by the way wouldn't you say i would say that to somebody who wasn't my kid

03:59:52.800 who was an adult right what what's actually wrong with that well how is um exploring her sexuality how

03:59:58.320 would that be bad per se if she's doing it safe and consensually how would that be bad if she wants

04:00:03.360 to sleep and you know what she doesn't like using let me ask you a question if you don't hear this

04:00:10.480 very quickly brian if you have zero sex zero none what are your chances of contracting a sexually

04:00:17.920 transmitted disease none obviously what are your chances of getting pregnant none okay so then any

04:00:24.400 sex is actually unsafe sex isn't it well not if you're using protection now even if you're using

04:00:30.800 protection protection cannot work right the pill may not work you could still get pregnant condoms

04:00:36.720 break right there the only chance that you have of zero percent is what none none yeah sorry and i'm not

04:00:46.400 trying to rag on you i just think that you know based off of the studies all the studies that i've seen

04:00:51.680 say that if you want your child to grow up like the best to be the most successful to be the best

04:00:59.600 person there's usually a very positive father figure very positive female like mother figure

04:01:07.600 you know in their life giving them direction on what to do and it sounds to me like the situation

04:01:13.520 that you're putting yourself in going out and engaging with hookup culture is ultimately what

04:01:18.720 leads to unplanned pregnancies and even men going out and cheating and things along these lines just lack

04:01:24.640 of like sexual control and control over your urges is ultimately what bleeds into these problems in

04:01:30.800 the first place and leads a leaves a lot of children fatherless or motherless or something like that

04:01:37.040 wolf ray had donated two hundred dollars the woman in the green dress with tattoos is the most beautiful

04:01:43.360 woman i have ever seen wow show more often oh all right there you go there you go hey give a response you

04:01:51.040 gotta give a response to wolf thank you that's so sweet all right thank you wolf do appreciate it

04:01:57.680 and then we have uh crazy ace who just gifted 20 subs yo guys uh this is over on twitch w's in the chat

04:02:04.560 for uh crazy crazy ace thank you so much man appreciate the gifted 20 thank you dude all right let's get

04:02:10.880 into the rest of the notes here uh daya did i did i say right yeah daya okay uh you write you're an

04:02:18.480 ex-model sailor who's christian you believe in not sleeping around and hold christian values you think

04:02:23.520 you could be a voice of reason to millions of girls falling down the rabbit hole of today's

04:02:28.080 societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality what do you mean by that

04:02:32.880 well that's a lot to dive into but i'll try to try to be brief if you can yeah as briefly um i don't

04:02:38.560 think that hookup culture is positive in our society i think that it's degrading our basic nuclear

04:02:44.480 families and i think that it's leading a lot of women to feel a false sense of empowerment when

04:02:49.200 you're really giving up your power um i think that being abstinent having a husband waiting till

04:02:55.040 marriage if you can you know that is the best option um i also do think that stuff you know like

04:03:02.240 sex work which this is going to be controversial but i think that doing sex work you know is leading

04:03:08.400 more towards people's addictions and sins that would be avoided if there wasn't such a large

04:03:13.760 industry for that you know if there's no supply you know there's still going to be demand but there's

04:03:18.720 not as much access to that so i think that's degrading our culture when you say um in the name of

04:03:24.000 equality though in your original message that you sent i mean what is the equality that you object to

04:03:31.760 can you can you go further with that i don't completely understand your question well you said i think

04:03:35.520 i could be the voice of reason to millions of girls falling down the rabbit hole of today's

04:03:39.360 societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality right what components or aspects of

04:03:44.560 equality do you object to i don't believe that giving your body to men is making you equal how does

04:03:51.200 that oh um how does that pertain to equality because hookup culture is encouraging women to go out

04:03:58.080 and basically take your power it's saying take back your power like empower yourself by sleeping

04:04:03.760 around with as many wait wait wait wait back back way up for me dude yeah hookup culture when you

04:04:10.800 talk about culture culture's people so this is not this is not like some intangible thing that this

04:04:17.920 like product of the mind that you're talking about when you say hookup culture you're talking about

04:04:23.040 people yes people encouraging well so what i'm talking about is feminism feminism is ultimately what's

04:04:30.960 trying to encourage women to go out i think i think men do it too like i think that there are men

04:04:37.600 involved but i think that ultimately feminism nowadays is encouraging women go take power of your

04:04:44.960 own body sleep with whoever you want to sleep with but i want to get her position though so

04:04:50.080 you said it's societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality

04:04:57.600 what in the name of equality what equality are you objecting to i don't know how a hookup culture

04:05:03.840 pertains to equality so women are you know arguing that by sleeping with men you're taking back your

04:05:10.800 power in sex which is making that what's that have to do with equality though okay so you're talking about

04:05:15.760 equality in like the sexual connotation right like equality in sex so since women are now sleeping

04:05:21.360 with whoever they want men have slept with whoever they wanted for centuries that they were prostitutes

04:05:25.920 like that was a very common thing but now it's the average person that is just having sex without

04:05:31.360 thinking of the consequences or you know without having any restraint wait but hold on but for an

04:05:36.800 individual man to engage in a casual sex act it there's a corresponding woman also engaged in the

04:05:42.560 casual sex act there's always been equality when it comes to casual sex because in order to have

04:05:47.520 casual sex there's two people okay so i don't understand your right right what you're saying at

04:05:52.000 all so so it used to be prostitution right like there were concubines that was a thing right throughout

04:05:56.240 all of history you can see prostitution now women were always um valued on their their virtue right

04:06:01.440 like people used to literally take women and check their virginity to before they could get married

04:06:07.600 that was a so wait are you saying so i'm saying that there's more prostitution

04:06:12.240 ergo that's equality no i'm saying no no no that's not my point at all so what's your point

04:06:18.640 okay now what i'm saying is that it is the average woman who is acting as the average man has act which

04:06:25.920 is not creating equality it's breaking down the nuclear family so by having women and men you know

04:06:33.520 agree into this symbiotic relationship of hookup culture right of sleeping with each other with no

04:06:38.800 strings attached or very casually outside of the you know confines of marriage it's against the bible

04:06:44.640 so you know i don't agree with it because of that but also before i was even christian i didn't believe

04:06:49.600 in hookup culture for taking back your power which is what the feminist movement says is sleeping with

04:06:55.200 other men you know dressing provocatively that's going to bring back your power i don't necessarily

04:07:00.400 what is the goal of feminism excuse me what is the goal of feminism now no yeah equality equality

04:07:12.720 yes so the so if they want equality who do they want equality with men and so that that this must

04:07:20.800 entail that they were oppressed by men so then this would entail that you believe that women also were

04:07:28.240 oppressed by men so you believe that women have been oppressed by men yes i see go ahead with your

04:07:38.240 ink word i just wanted to get that out on the table yes yeah i do i do believe that i think in the past we

04:07:43.440 weren't treated as equals that's fair we weren't allowed to wait wait hold on no no this is a little

04:07:48.080 contradictory here because you're saying women were not treated as equals this is unfair but you're saying

04:07:54.720 that today's societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality so which is it is equality

04:08:00.480 bad or is it good i don't think that people should be having sex outside of marriage for different

04:08:05.200 reasons i think that that is not something that you should try to be equal with men it's something that

04:08:10.400 you should not allow that to be so mainstream in society it's not that that's you know arguing you

04:08:15.840 know if if men and women should be equal it's that i don't believe that sex outside of marriage is

04:08:20.560 okay like i i don't i don't personally agree with it you know it is a sin and and so that's why you

04:08:26.960 know i've become celibate is because of that is because of the fact that you know i don't believe

04:08:32.320 that that's okay so no i'm not arguing about equality as a whole i'm saying women you know now

04:08:37.040 the feminist movement is arguing that if you give your body to these men then you are taking back your

04:08:43.360 power and that's not taking back your power you're giving it away more that is not at all what is you

04:08:49.520 know the meant outcome by that you're supposed to feel empowered so many women will tell you

04:08:53.520 i've had friends confining me you know hey i hooked up with this guy i felt like crap after i cried it's

04:08:58.480 like that is not taking back your power you are giving yourself to a man and that is a very serious

04:09:03.920 thing and that's why it's supposed to be in the confines of marriage wait can i ask you a question

04:09:07.920 i think that's a great message on i have to move it on uh you say you don't uh you dated some top nfl

04:09:13.520 nba and millionaires but ultimately ended up dating your best friend how so you said you dated some

04:09:20.240 top nfl nba players how did you one how did you meet them um just can you guys not do the sidebar

04:09:28.880 please sorry good um just just from modeling i did meet a lot of people that were you know quote

04:09:33.840 unquote high status and i don't think that that's something that should be um what women are going for

04:09:39.840 is what i was trying to say there is like i found my partner who i believe will be my future i'm sorry

04:09:44.400 you're too far from the mic okay sorry i'm tall if you can just try to remember yeah okay um i found

04:09:50.640 my partner who i believe to be my future husband and my best friend you know there were these quote

04:09:55.760 unquote high status men that were pursuing me and i don't think that that makes a man you know more

04:10:02.640 eligible i think that you should find somebody who you're compatible with on a mental and you know

04:10:09.120 emotional level rather than trying to chase the status or chase the money like i don't think that

04:10:14.400 it's okay and i know you know there's a disagreement on the panel with that but i don't think that you

04:10:19.520 should chase a man just for money you know um you said you dated some top nfl nba how many different

04:10:25.760 nfl players did you date so when i say date i mean like i went on a date with i realized very uh recently

04:10:32.160 that people have a different idea of dating than i do because i don't really i haven't dated that many

04:10:38.320 people i've been in serious relationships for most of my life were you in a serious relationship with

04:10:43.520 no no no a nfl or a nba player um a professional soccer player yes and a professional hockey player

04:10:51.360 but you were in relationships those were all very short and i nhl was he an nhl player yeah and then uh

04:10:58.480 what's the soccer the america i mean he was in portugal so that i don't was he in the is it the

04:11:03.360 premier league or damien do you watch uh like european soccer and those were those were all very

04:11:12.000 short relationships they were within a few months i realized that i wasn't really interested in

04:11:16.480 was this was this before you were a christian yes okay and i did not sleep with them if that's your

04:11:21.440 next question you didn't sleep with any of them no i was actually celibate before i was christian

04:11:25.440 those were my morals anyways um i see i found christianity i found christ after but i have always

04:11:30.800 believed that this is the way you also you also said you dated millionaires plural i mean i live

04:11:36.000 in you know i live in california now but before when i was modeling i've been modeling since i was 16

04:11:40.800 and so i met a lot of high profile people again when i say date i mean i went on a date with and

04:11:45.760 i realized now that that's not very clear like i've gone on multiple dates with people like this and

04:11:50.320 i've realized the only point of that message was that that's not what's important when it comes to

04:11:54.800 a man you should find somebody that you're compatible with it doesn't matter their status it doesn't

04:11:59.280 matter what they look like it doesn't matter their height it doesn't matter you know how much money

04:12:04.640 they have in their pocket you should find somebody that you can their height doesn't matter you're

04:12:08.720 you said you're a model right how tall are you i'm 5'10 how tall is your boyfriend he's 6'4 but i've

04:12:13.600 dated a guy who's hold up i've dated a guy who was 5'4 so yeah but you said dated your definition of

04:12:20.320 dating means a guy you went on a date with yeah like i could see a girl giving a 5'4 guy like maybe you

04:12:28.480 access some guys lie about their height so you dated a guy but he misled you on his height i

04:12:33.040 thought it was i thought it was cute that's what every guy wants to hear he's cute um but women say

04:12:39.120 this shit like oh height doesn't matter how tall is your boyfriend he's in the one percentile he's in

04:12:44.240 the top percentile of height i'm also in the one percentile though i'm taller than the average man so

04:12:47.760 right give me some credit but you're probably taller than you i'm 5'10 i don't care that's fine

04:12:52.400 so you're 5'10 yeah well yeah but like i think it's a guy taller than you could be 5'11 or six

04:12:58.240 foot which is much more common than 6'4 that's like the 99th percentile my boyfriend didn't pick

04:13:02.960 his height and i didn't pick him for his height like i know but you say he was my best friend for

04:13:06.080 two years oh i know and then you ask the girl okay how tall is all your exes how tall is your current

04:13:11.280 boyfriend i don't care about how he's he's above he's like in the top percentile of height that's

04:13:17.280 that's fair it's like you say that but the men you end up with oh he's 6'4 that's fair that's

04:13:22.240 crazy i mean it does make it difficult with the boat because he doesn't fit headspace wise so oh

04:13:26.640 yeah you should have disqualified how is he gonna live on the boat with you i'm gonna have to get

04:13:30.240 a bigger one yeah you got to get a bigger i'm gonna have to upgrade so all right is he a professional

04:13:34.800 athlete or no no he did play basketball but he's in college um yeah yeah now he's still pretty pretty

04:13:40.800 up there so okay um all right well that's cool um and then uh all right and then you said next thing

04:13:49.360 you you don't believe the girls are gonna love this one you don't believe makeup to be super

04:13:54.240 beneficial to women you you live naturally and that may offend a lot of people uh do you want to flesh

04:14:00.400 out your position like what do you think about makeup so i mean i make all my own products like i make

04:14:05.600 my own laundry detergent i make sorry i'm like way too tall for this um i make my own laundry

04:14:11.680 detergent like i make my own sunscreen i make all my own hair care which i've been figuring it out with

04:14:16.880 curly hair it's more difficult than it might seem i make all my own skin care like everything i do i

04:14:22.800 make it myself i make my own toothpaste everything and so living naturally i've realized that a lot of

04:14:28.720 the things that you know we put on a day-to-day basis like this is cotton so i only try let's get to

04:14:33.760 the makeup stuff right okay so so makeup is toxic chemicals right so it's it's literally bleeding

04:14:38.480 into your into your body it's going through your skin your skin's permeable which isn't positive

04:14:42.880 you know you're putting all these crazy things they used to put literally lead in makeup and people

04:14:47.920 you know dealt with that for for yeah that was through ignorance though yeah of course it was

04:14:52.560 through ignorance but i also not even from a you know physical standpoint don't think that that's

04:14:57.920 positive for women's health i also don't think that it's positive for their mental health

04:15:02.240 because if every single day you have to put on makeup and then you know you start to see yourself

04:15:07.680 and i used to wear makeup like it i mean i still sometimes will put on some lipstick like i now make

04:15:14.480 my own stuff if i'm going to use it but i don't you know regularly use it when you wear makeup you become

04:15:20.800 a different are you are you wearing makeup are you wearing lipstick right now no you can see my finger

04:15:26.320 so i'm just well i'm just curious uh my lips are chapped though i was sailing yesterday

04:15:30.800 um okay so you're not wearing any makeup no my whole face is this is that's why i look so red on

04:15:36.400 camera right now because like my face is flushed um you can tell i'm not wearing foundation that would

04:15:41.280 be covered and also the fact i just touched my cheeks and they got redder so are you anti-makeup

04:15:45.200 okay um it's okay it's fine if you have that position yes yes i am okay debbie's in the chat for

04:15:52.720 so uh ladies what do you guys think can i say why oh you want to speak more okay go ahead

04:15:58.400 okay one last thought okay yeah one last thought go ahead

04:16:02.240 go ahead go ahead okay you're a little verbose is all okay a little verbose okay i want to let let

04:16:09.200 the okay okay all right one more thing then everyone yeah one more two things and three things

04:16:14.080 but okay go ahead all i'm gonna say is that once you've stopped wearing makeup the first month is

04:16:20.320 really bad like you feel bad about yourself because you do look better with makeup it's made to make you

04:16:25.520 more attractive however you start to feel more confident in your own skin when you stop wearing it

04:16:31.280 because you're no longer looking in the mirror and waking up in the morning thinking i don't look like

04:16:35.920 how i want to look you start to accept yourself how you are and that's what i've found through it

04:16:40.240 now it might be your form of self-expression but i've found personally that that's made me a lot

04:16:44.240 more confident and comfortable with who i am

04:16:48.960 any girls uh here at the table she's anti-makeup we got some pro makeup girls here i mean some women

04:16:56.080 here pro makeup pro makeup mikayla bella what do you think pro makeup pro makeup anybody yeah i don't

04:17:01.920 think everyone's gonna suffer like these mental health effects of like yeah differently like i

04:17:06.800 don't actually wear makeup day to day i only wear makeup when i'm gonna be on camera and i think i

04:17:11.200 look great without makeup and you know i don't like i don't like i see where you're coming from how it

04:17:17.840 might distort some women's like personal image of themselves but that's why i think you know there

04:17:24.480 should probably be like a like an age to like a level of maturity to where like women start wearing

04:17:30.320 makeup but like i don't think that it's just i don't really think it's that damaging i don't

04:17:33.520 think it's any more damaging than wearing flattering clothes taking it off like i don't

04:17:38.160 really so if you think you look good natural then what's the reason it's just an enhancer

04:17:44.640 like is it enhancing for men is it enhancing for yourself both to look good to other people

04:17:51.920 to look good to me wait daya question if you were president and you could sign an executive order

04:17:58.160 i thought i wasn't supposed to talk anymore i i as the no no he just said he just said you're

04:18:05.360 very verbose i am the definition of verbose being that you often use more words than necessary to

04:18:12.240 express the thought brian was simply in his own very chivalric way just saying we still want to hear

04:18:18.720 from you but perhaps we can keep it a little bit more concise so concise in fact that i haven't said

04:18:23.680 anything for a while and already you're trying to cut in while i'm talking but anyway go ahead

04:18:31.120 so it's okay would you sign an executive order banning makeup if you could really no no i wouldn't

04:18:38.000 no uh do you think women who wear makeup are insecure

04:18:41.360 i i'm next i'm asking answer the question go ahead it's not my position i'm just asking if it's her

04:18:53.200 position yeah be honest put it out there two sides just kidding just either you do it for art or you

04:18:59.360 don't like how you make the mic's just right here okay i'm i'm gonna corner it i know it's hard just

04:19:04.480 two sides either you wear it for art or you wear it to cover or enhance something that you feel is

04:19:12.160 naturally lacking so i do think that you know if if you're not wearing makeup you feel more confident

04:19:18.960 like i said and so i think that the more makeup you wear the more you're likely to become insecure

04:19:24.160 and i think that it's kind of like a double-edged sword there i'm not saying that every woman that

04:19:27.760 wears makeup is insecure that's also what's pushed on our society so it really depends and i know i'm

04:19:32.960 giving a roundabout answer i just gave a clear one before um but i think you can do it for art

04:19:38.720 or you can do it to enhance your looks and either way you know you're doing it for a specific reason

04:19:44.080 and i personally don't think that i want to do it so i'm gonna have the the pro makeup uh cartel weigh in

04:19:54.400 the the pro makeup delegation mikayla bella whoever else is pro makeup i think you said your pro makeup

04:20:00.880 uh well do you think she's full of shit what do you think i mean what do you think mikayla give it

04:20:07.280 to us mikayla i mean for me personally like i'm really creative and i like to draw too so for me

04:20:13.200 it's like doing my makeup is really soothing when i'm if i feel like doing it before i leave the house

04:20:18.400 it's like it calms me my my ex used to say like he was like i've never met a girl that because i would

04:20:24.320 literally do my makeup when i'm stressed and take it right off like immediately just because it's fun

04:20:28.880 right for me i can understand that yeah so i mean for yeah for me it has nothing to do with

04:20:32.960 like confidence i'm totally okay going do you know what's in your makeup like do you know the

04:20:36.560 chemicals that are in there i do yeah yeah i look i look up all the ingredients and that's like you're

04:20:40.960 educated on the subject i think a lot of women are kind of pushed into that being you know young kids

04:20:44.960 you've got kids going to sephora now at 12 yeah and they're buying you know lipstick they're buying

04:20:50.080 mascara it's like you're 12 when i was 12 i was playing in dirt and riding on quads like

04:20:55.120 you know it's it's very scary to see the younger generation that's growing up with this idea of

04:21:00.080 beauty and we're we're pushing it on to them and i i personally as a marketer feel bad about that

04:21:05.680 so but if you do it for art that's great like that's therapy i understand that

04:21:10.800 bella i honestly don't think it's that serious not that serious it's really not that serious i feel

04:21:16.480 like makeup really doesn't have anything to do with anyone's confidence just like you said it's an

04:21:20.880 art it is soothing it takes time to learn on top of that um like me personally i'm confident

04:21:27.920 with or without makeup i only put on makeup if i have time like it takes time as well so if i had

04:21:32.640 some makeup wipes would you take your makeup off right now well you know what later on in the show

04:21:37.600 we can do it you down oh i'm fine with that okay perfect we got because i'm totally fine without

04:21:42.480 makeup but like you bringing like mental health into it i just i don't agree like at all she think

04:21:51.360 i feel like maybe that was like you her position is that if you wear makeup you're mentally exactly

04:21:57.600 that's what it feels like bella bella i can't tell if you're wearing makeup you got to make y'all

04:22:03.520 are that's good that's a good thing i'm very natural you're ill ill thank you that's what she

04:22:10.560 said right i didn't say that no more that's not my position all right that's cool why don't we get

04:22:15.680 the men's perspective wait would y'all date going around the table would you guys date a dude who wore

04:22:21.360 makeup mikayla would you like he put on a little blush a little mascara

04:22:28.400 yeah why not you really okay yeah yeah and he curls his you wouldn't be a little turned off if

04:22:39.920 he's like curling his eyelashes i probably i mean i probably might the umbrellas a little but like um

04:22:49.040 there's like in the korean culture there's like makeup that's made for men

04:22:52.800 and they do like you know is that your preference though for a guy to wear makeup

04:23:00.640 i don't really mind you don't mind okay no yeah all right i don't mind you don't mind you don't mind

04:23:05.280 bella as long as it's not excessive what if he wears as much as you do yeah i'm not saying you're

04:23:10.720 excessive i'm not saying that but what if it's as much as you wear so he's got fake lashes no no but

04:23:19.840 he's quality he wants his eyes to pop bella he wants his eyes to pop i feel like that's too

04:23:26.320 feminine for me how dare you say that wow okay uh what about you shelby um no but can i say something

04:23:35.120 else sure i think what's worse than makeup is like plastic surgery and like all the fillers and stuff

04:23:43.600 because then it gives even more of like a fake facade for what the standard should be anybody here

04:23:51.120 have any plastic surgery fake titties what do you have you got you have fake boobs yeah okay uh bbl

04:24:00.560 anybody she said bbl no bbl lip filler you have boob job lip filler no lip filler anybody wait do you

04:24:09.520 hey brian is there anybody on here that you think because since you told me that you are able to

04:24:16.640 determine the fake titty vision yeah well and the the fake lip the lip filler the lip filler i'd have

04:24:21.920 to see their their side their profile the problem is hang on hang on hang on there's a lot there's

04:24:27.840 logical issue here with this question towards brian it is my belief that perhaps brian could not fully

04:24:35.440 determine this without himself seeing them which and of course it would be untowards for him to make

04:24:41.760 such demands and the fact that you are as a christian you should be ashamed of that brian shameful

04:24:47.440 absolutely should not in any way indulge in your sycophantic and disgusting fantasies the lips because

04:24:54.960 hey the lips you're asking him you're asking him with zero input and information without the proper

04:25:01.520 requisite information that anybody would need as a visual aid to make this assessment you're out of

04:25:06.960 bounds my so bad i am so sorry but i was referring to the rebuked you just got rebuked by andrew um nice

04:25:17.680 so uh yeah we have uh moving on uh let's see here we have actually wait let me just double check now

04:25:23.840 we're all good uh michaela moving to michaela hot take you say you have to know a guy for for like over

04:25:31.280 a month be just your words uh be going on dates consistently before you'll even consider kissing

04:25:37.920 him a month yeah i mean it's not like it's not like a strict thing but i feel like i don't like i

04:25:47.680 typically don't even feel like kissing a guy if i gross like don't know him that is i like to postpone

04:25:54.240 the kiss as long as possible even if like i i just want to post we should have sex before even

04:26:00.880 kissing that's my position right yeah brian i'm you're so right um but okay you need to be uh going

04:26:11.360 on dates consistently so what if like third date he he goes for the kiss do you like dodge it and give

04:26:17.920 him like the ass out hug you know no i think if it feels right like that's what i'm saying it's not

04:26:22.080 like a super strict thing like if it feels right i'm gonna do it but i just like typically don't

04:26:27.200 feel like if have you ever had sex with someone before you've kissed them no okay i feel like i

04:26:33.200 had to ask that question um actually i guess kind of related to this um how about bringing a little

04:26:40.320 further though when it comes to sex like how long do you i don't i don't even know the best way to

04:26:46.080 phrase this like how long do you wait for this is for the whole panel we'll go around the table

04:26:52.400 uh before like one date two date three date whatever if it feels right i don't know before

04:26:57.200 having sex michaela go ahead yeah probably just if it feels right like whenever i'm comfortable enough

04:27:03.200 has it ever felt right 30 minutes after meeting a dude no

04:27:10.080 no not for me okay uh bella what about you yeah when it feels right it's like an hour it's typically

04:27:19.520 after like maybe like 10 dates bella come on breath 10 dates you're waiting 10 dates 10 dates isn't a

04:27:28.080 lot oh if i usually hang out you usually hang out with what like with the other person pretty often

04:27:35.040 so it goes by pretty fast but that's a lot of money that's that's a lot of cost per nut on that

04:27:42.880 one it's a little degenerate 10 whole dates a hundred dollars a dinner

04:27:51.680 cpn the roi damn 10 dates is that a lot

04:27:58.560 no no you should be chased in fact you should wait till marriage some people wait like months

04:28:06.640 and like years i think i know genuinely i wait my whole life yeah but some people wait like five

04:28:11.840 minutes so it's like i can just say that all right uh how long for you uh i'd say like when it feels

04:28:18.240 right on average probably about like at least after the third date okay what about you until i'm in a

04:28:26.160 very committed relationship that could potential all right potential to be marriage uh what about

04:28:32.800 you um i'd say three dates too if it feels right but try to go for three days all right lucky number

04:28:38.880 three okay i think in the past um you know i maybe just a few dates but now i i'm kind of waiting for the

04:28:49.920 right guy uh oh okay brian should tell you his okay i'm just gonna i'm just gonna wash i'm just gonna

04:28:58.880 walk okay what is no andrew what is it so brian has he has an irrefutable argument um it upsets me

04:29:08.720 greatly i argue with him all the time and i end up losing on this argument every single time so here's

04:29:14.640 the argument the argument just goes simply like this if you were promiscuous before you

04:29:21.440 got to the man that you really liked but you were not going to sleep with that man

04:29:27.360 right because you now want to wait wouldn't that man feel gypped

04:29:36.080 he might but i think it well at least for me it'll feel the intention is different

04:29:42.880 what i agree yeah i know nobody no dispute there that the intention is yeah i could i'm just looking

04:29:49.760 let's just look at it from the man's perspective so let's say and this of course this would never

04:29:54.560 happen because i'm not really a 10 but that's really funny to say but let's just assume for a

04:29:59.360 second that you and i were dating right hypothetically of course and um we sat down and we're having dinner

04:30:07.520 and we're having a great time you know and we have a few drinks and we get into it and you're like

04:30:14.000 look you know i really like you i do have a bit of a sordid past you know i've uh i've slept with let's

04:30:20.160 say 10 guys or 15 guys and some of them even on the first day i've done this even on the first day

04:30:26.640 but with you i really like you right and i want to wait so that this is like meaningful

04:30:33.280 from my perspective wouldn't i be like what the fuck like you what you fucked all these guys like

04:30:40.240 whoa where's my you know what i mean wouldn't would from the guy's perspective how do you think that

04:30:45.680 would make them feel yeah i i understand that i could see how a guy could you know kind of be maybe

04:30:54.480 upset about it or like feel like gypped um uh that everybody else was able to be like hey

04:31:05.280 i on the first night i slept with that guy but that was a mistake but you i really like you so i'm

04:31:11.680 going to make you wait doesn't that just sound backwards it it it can but then you know i'd probably

04:31:19.840 tell him that because he's so special yes and now we get to the heart of the argument so you thought

04:31:25.840 that the first part was the argument but it wasn't it was just a lead up to the argument so here's where

04:31:31.120 brian comes in with the kill shot it annoys me to no end oh okay here's the kid here's the kill shot

04:31:39.680 brian says well then you're faking virtue because it was not for you virtuous to not sleep with the

04:31:46.000 men before me it's only because you really like me and you think my preference is that i want a

04:31:52.720 woman who is virtuous and so even though you want to sleep with me you will not because that's my

04:32:00.160 preference so you're actually faking virtue well i would probably put it on myself i i'd probably say

04:32:08.880 it's sure because i was immature and i think for once in my life i know exactly what i want

04:32:16.480 sure but from the guy's perspective right again from let's say brian's perspective he thinks

04:32:23.440 but if you're making me wait and you say you're doing it for me it's because you must think that

04:32:29.120 i have the preference that i don't want to be with a promiscuous woman and if you're

04:32:33.840 promiscuous with all the men before me then you must be faking being virtuous because you think that's

04:32:39.120 what i want um i don't know what to say can i add something because i actually like relate to this a

04:32:49.520 lot so um with my kid's dad um i had met him but like the first like month or so like we didn't have

04:32:55.920 sex or anything so that for me it was because like most guys usually like they just like want to like

04:33:02.720 hit it and quit it you know so like the the fact that he also was like understanding of like oh you

04:33:08.400 know like we both actually like cared about each other like see something in each other to wait like

04:33:14.080 i don't feel like every guy is gonna be like oh well why are you gonna fuck him but not me let me ask

04:33:18.480 you a question yeah let's say you fucked him on the first night right how would that have changed

04:33:23.360 your relationship dynamic um he probably would have just went on to the next girl and right so

04:33:28.720 then so then the virtue here was self-serving you didn't sleep with him because you thought if you

04:33:35.920 did he'd move on to the next girl not because you have an objection to sleeping with him that's exactly

04:33:42.560 what faking virtue is that's the heart of brian's argument which is why it's so frustrating to me

04:33:49.600 because i've been pondering for one straight year this literally plagues me at night i cannot repeat

04:33:56.560 this argument it bothers me to no end but what you just demonstrated was the perfect example of faking

04:34:03.040 virtue yeah i will not have sex with you because i'm afraid that if i do it'll give you the wrong idea

04:34:10.400 about me and then you'll move on to the next girl perfect about the idea right that means then that you

04:34:16.640 would sleep with him if you thought he would stay with you so what about because i know like we're

04:34:22.640 both like talking on the answer to this question if you knew for sure that he would have stayed with

04:34:27.680 you if you had slept with him night one wouldn't you have um probably not because i usually don't just

04:34:33.120 hook up with the guy like the first night okay night like like like night three um no because he lived

04:34:40.960 like really far so okay like a few times a week if he didn't live really far um maybe but yeah maybe

04:34:50.160 so you were faking virtue so what you were doing you were making him wait because you wanted him to

04:34:55.760 think you weren't that kind of girl that way he would stick well he met me at a strip club so he

04:35:00.480 probably already thought i was that he was probably already expecting to get something out of me look

04:35:04.480 every circumstance is different in this case i'll even grant in this circumstance is different but

04:35:09.920 even then your entire mindset behind this was i didn't sleep with him immediately because he would

04:35:16.160 think something bad about me and move on to the next girl so i made him wait it was not though that

04:35:22.320 you objected to him and you wanted him to wait because of virtue it was because you thought it was a

04:35:28.800 good way to net him and so then we get into the that's what faking virtue is and um every single

04:35:36.640 time this is played out it always plays out the same way and it pisses me off and i want to like

04:35:42.640 choke brian all the time i want to literally strangle him because i don't know how to refute that argument

04:35:48.000 because you are faking virtue you're not doing it for him you're doing it for you right to keep him

04:35:52.160 well i kind of did it more for me because i just i i i wanted it to go further you know so

04:36:01.360 like i didn't want to just give it to him and you know who knows where it would have went i i wanted to

04:36:05.760 like wait and see where i actually go and then like if it doesn't if i see it's not going to go anywhere

04:36:09.920 i'm either not going to do it we're not going to have sex or we could just do it and move on like

04:36:14.240 if that's i agree i totally i totally understand exactly what you're saying you're not doing it though

04:36:19.760 because you think in your head it's virtuous to stay pure it's virtuous to be chased you're doing

04:36:27.440 it because you think it'll well i didn't think that because i'm a stripper so i'm like you probably

04:36:31.600 already think something like a whore so yeah right you're doing it because you think it'll keep the

04:36:35.280 guy that's what faking virtue is it's like i'm not easy i'm not like this but you were like this with

04:36:40.960 10 other guys or five other guys or two other guys or whatever but i'm not going to be like this with

04:36:46.240 you you know what i mean i'm actually virtuous to keep him interested that is what faking virtue is

04:36:53.520 and so uh this argument i've i've had trouble refuting when brian says well shouldn't i feel

04:36:59.680 chipped because they're just faking virtue how the fuck is he wrong okay i have a thought on that so okay

04:37:07.920 um and i'll weigh in too i think generally if you sleep with anyone male or female i think there's some

04:37:15.840 kind of emotional connection and if you sleep with them early on you don't maybe you don't get a

04:37:22.720 chance to actually get to know them to decide whether you do like them or not so that's that's my reason

04:37:32.720 uh okay i mean but you've already you made that decision later in your life because earlier in your

04:37:40.800 life you were more at least in this situation the woman was more she threw it out more often so she

04:37:48.480 came to this conclusion later the guy would say oh well that's that's funny that you come to that

04:37:53.520 conclusion later but with all those other guys in your past you weren't so chased you know yeah well

04:37:59.280 and i think that's why i've i've always not always but i've been in so many relationships that

04:38:06.080 lasted so long um and it's probably because i no i i didn't wait that long and i think if i would

04:38:13.520 have waited i probably wouldn't have ended up being with some of these guys so i it's like a hard lesson

04:38:20.800 that i learned perhaps i do want to come back to it but really quick because we were going around the

04:38:24.640 table on this how long do you think you should wait before hooking up um quick answers yes at least a

04:38:31.440 month i don't believe in hooking up okay tilt your mic down a little bit go ahead what about you

04:38:37.120 if this is about dating um there is no time you will know uh don't think about it live your life

04:38:43.680 and breathe and love yeah so right away is that um it would never be right away like same night i'm

04:38:51.600 very have you ever like met a guy and then like within 24 hours 48 hours no 72 hours no a fortnight you

04:39:00.240 know one time there was that one guy okay right role play scenario but i guess my confusion with

04:39:08.400 this whole thing is and andrew has most of it down when it comes to the faking virtue thing but there

04:39:14.400 does seem to be this uh there's another component here where it's kind of like there's game playing

04:39:21.360 and then this sort of like what's going on here kind of unfair treatment like i'm sure a lot of you

04:39:28.000 guys just to i'll give you a scenario where perhaps you can comprehend because this is a frustration

04:39:33.040 that men experience that i don't think women can really understand or put themselves in men's shoes

04:39:38.640 on this so let me here's the example imagine a guy who he introduced his friends and family

04:39:45.440 to you spent quality long romantic dates with you revealed his emotional side

04:39:51.120 with you but he just wanted to smash but with girls he saw long-term potential in he booty called

04:39:59.600 them at night left straight away because he didn't want to get hurt

04:40:07.120 like so he's what what i'm getting at with that example is he's essentially rewarding the woman

04:40:16.320 get to meet the family friends spend these long romantic dates he's putting in all this effort

04:40:24.080 with the woman he's just trying to smash and have sex with but the girl he sees long-term potential in

04:40:31.920 she gets the worst treatment and so it's interesting to me like okay you really like the guy this guy's so

04:40:39.360 great but you're that's the guy oh he's got to wait a month two months three five ten dates but the guy

04:40:48.400 who's a jerk asshole fuck boy who you have had short-term encounters with he gets to hit right away

04:40:54.400 so the jerk the guy who was a jerk the guy who is an asshole to you he hit right away and i'm i'm the

04:41:00.720 good guy i'm the guy you actually want a long-term relationship with and you want you want to wait oh

04:41:07.200 okay you're not attracted to me or what what's the situation then but that's like that's exactly

04:41:13.920 the problem and that's what's contributing to what culture what what do you mean what's the problem

04:41:17.520 like you guys automatically assuming that just because a woman's not sleeping with you on the

04:41:20.880 first date that she's not attracted to you but i would just say that's not what i'm saying i'm saying

04:41:25.600 that like that could be a thought process for a lot of guys right which is why women are sleeping

04:41:31.600 with men on the first date now because if not then the man would just leave so i think i think the

04:41:37.760 the jerk that you're talking about like the ideal man like the f-boy like he gets it on the first

04:41:42.400 night because the woman thinks that that will keep him keep him around like to be honest but they

04:41:47.440 clearly don't think that because with the guy that they want to keep around they decide to hold

04:41:51.440 off on it aren't we supposed to bow down and obey mine i think that's after learning their lesson

04:41:58.000 with that in a bit but like here but that's just the game you can't hate you can't hate the player

04:42:04.320 just that's just the game no but you understand how like from the guy's perspective it's really

04:42:08.160 confusing like that's why he doesn't find out look at it logically but if you look at it logically

04:42:13.520 right like isn't the guy who you who you like are viewing like oh this guy could be like long-term

04:42:20.560 relationship potential he waits he has to wait for sex but the guy who's maybe going to treat you

04:42:27.680 poorly who's a jerk asshole fuck boy he hits right away maybe like that's what's confusing because he

04:42:32.960 doesn't want him to stay around his long-term relationship success so so so hang on so let me

04:42:39.120 just ask you from the from the from the guy's perspective say let's say you and i are sitting down

04:42:44.080 for dinner say look i only fuck the guys i don't like yeah it's weird what should my play what should

04:42:52.080 my play be what should my play be then should it be like oh that yes i really want you to like me

04:42:58.320 or should it be i really want you to not like me wait what should my play be andrew that's actually a

04:43:04.560 really good i i think we've talked about this before but that's actually a really good point

04:43:09.280 so your position is if a guy wants to get sex he has to be the bad dude no he has so you guys are

04:43:17.280 incentivizing it men will do what works men okay he has to be attractive no men will do what works

04:43:24.480 so like oh you reward the guys who treat you like shit and you fuck him right away is it any surprise

04:43:31.360 that if you guys are like giving yourself sexually to these awful men that you're reinforcing their

04:43:38.160 behavior well men don't treat you like shit before they have sex with you really no okay like i don't

04:43:44.880 think most like have you guys ever gotten treated like shit by a guy but you only wait wait wait

04:43:50.320 though just because you always sleep but but you sleep with men that you don't like and you won't

04:43:56.320 sleep with men that you do like so if i'm a man who wants to sleep with you what should i be what

04:44:03.040 should my goal here be to make you what like me or not like me well i don't think is that what you

04:44:08.800 said like he's we're our response is going off of what you said you said well they sleep with they

04:44:15.280 sleep with the men that they don't like didn't you say i don't want for a long-term relationship maybe

04:44:20.640 he is maybe he's highly desirable like maybe he's highly attractive or he has a lot of money he has a

04:44:25.520 lot of women chasing after him so you already know he's not really looking to commit to anyone

04:44:29.200 but he's attractive like i think when women you're settling no sometimes like he's just hot

04:44:35.280 and you just you just well you're not settling i think when women how are you not settling i think

04:44:39.760 when women sleep around they usually go for men who are of like a higher status and like more

04:44:44.640 attractive more money whatever because they know that those men are just not going to stick around

04:44:49.120 because they have more options let me so let me get this right i here's your position women are

04:44:55.600 having sex with men who are high status who they don't actually like who they know they can't

04:45:01.520 actually get no they have to like you though they really like you so they're not going to sleep with

04:45:07.200 you right which literally means you're not high status and we're settling no they have to like them

04:45:14.240 it's just that they don't see a long-term relationship with them yeah okay they don't know that he's not

04:45:21.280 looking for that so so then my goal should be for you to not see a long-term relationship with me then

04:45:27.280 if you're just i want to have sex for casual sex as a man sure yeah okay so then the best way

04:45:33.920 to have sex with a woman is that she doesn't like you and you tell her that you don't want a long

04:45:39.920 no she has to like you have to be attractive you have to be desirable to her yeah sure you're

04:45:44.320 attracted but you have to be like but if she tells you she doesn't want to sleep with you because

04:45:48.400 she really likes you that that must mean you're not attractive and desirable no she's just not

04:45:53.840 exceptional oh you're just not exceptional oh okay he was exceptional i'm not exceptional you're

04:46:01.040 settling right i think women do settle when it comes okay right so you're settling that's it so brian

04:46:08.880 once again brian's argument king no refutations whatsoever it's just the entailment that you are

04:46:16.640 settling and faking virtue for men you claim you like who you won't sleep with and this is a problem

04:46:22.640 from the christian ethic i really want to destroy this guy on this i want to completely melt brian's

04:46:28.320 mind on this but apparently he's right because what you what the entailment is always is we're settling

04:46:36.640 for you right um but if you were exceptional we'd fuck you so so is that better to have one night

04:46:45.600 with somebody versus you could be married to them and then if your goal is sex with somebody being

04:46:51.040 married to them means that you have a long-lasting relationship i'll answer your question i'll answer

04:46:55.360 your question so in this scenario the guy you're saying it's better to be married to this woman

04:47:01.920 no yeah we don't want to marry we don't want to marry that woman that's not what i'm saying i'm

04:47:07.520 saying that you know if if you're saying is this based purely off of can how quickly i can have sex

04:47:14.400 with a woman is that is that the basis of the conversation on no no no let me explain okay it's

04:47:20.400 based on this if you have had sex with men before very quickly but you will not have sex with the guy

04:47:28.480 you're with and tell him it's because you really like him and wanted to go somewhere right the idea

04:47:34.400 from the gal i was just speaking to i'm very sorry i wasn't here right for the beginning of

04:47:38.560 the show so i didn't catch your name she said and i quote well women do settle you're obviously not

04:47:45.920 exceptional that's exactly how the guy would feel he would say why do these other men get to have sex

04:47:52.880 with you who you say you didn't like but i don't get to have sex with you when you claim i like you

04:48:00.160 that makes no fucking sense that that's fair i can't comment on that yeah so i guess here's the

04:48:05.200 confusion that i have i just have a question for the panelists so who do you think like which man is

04:48:12.160 i guess more deserving what you say is more deserving of sex the guy who you see a long-term potential

04:48:18.720 with or i guess the guy who you don't see long-term potential with long-term long-term guy

04:48:27.840 okay but so here's the confusing part you you say he's more deserving of it but you're you're

04:48:34.960 saying here that you're withholding sex from the men who arguably deserve the most and they put in the

04:48:42.960 most effort uh but you're giving it away freely to the guys who are kind of like maybe they're

04:48:48.480 really attractive but they're fuck boys whatever maybe they you know they put in minimal or no

04:48:54.160 effort and a lot of men see this you know maybe they never had to pay for a date never had to be

04:48:58.480 chivalrous etc etc i think we were maybe were we talking about chivalry earlier today i don't yeah

04:49:05.120 uh so what do men see they see why should i do all the chivalrous stuff that women claims that

04:49:13.440 they claim they want uh all the chivalrous stuff that women demand needs to be in place before having

04:49:20.400 sex but then you know that she freely has given herself to men who did not do those things so like

04:49:28.720 i'm i don't know the sexual history of the panelists here but like it's maybe fair to say

04:49:34.720 that some of you have had um this isn't a judgment but you've maybe like had a one night stand or hooked

04:49:39.920 up with a guy relatively quickly who didn't pay for dates didn't get you flowers or reacted to flowers

04:49:44.960 before didn't do all that chivalrous stuff and it's like men see that men see this you guys are giving

04:49:52.160 sex to the men that aren't chivalrous that are just like text you at 11 p.m on a Friday

04:49:58.640 night what you doing terrible grammar by the way they have terrible grammar too not the the men

04:50:05.440 what you doing they can they they text at a fifth grade level or some shit um

04:50:11.840 and then it's like oh now you're 30 now you want after you gave yourself to all these other men who

04:50:18.560 didn't have to put in any effort now you want me to put in all this effort that's crazy you're

04:50:25.280 commenting on what's the problem with hookup culture in our society like that is the issue

04:50:29.280 is that by having hookup culture we are perpetuating a society where it's okay to treat women poorly

04:50:35.360 because as long as you're attractive as long as you have high status that's women treating men poorly

04:50:41.280 not men treating women it's it's it's both it takes two to have a hookup culture no no in this case you

04:50:47.200 know it's just women treating men poorly what they're doing is gaslighting men they're saying

04:50:51.120 listen i really like you and so i'm not gonna sleep with you i just left with the three guys

04:50:55.840 before you though because i didn't like them that is the stupidest shit that i've ever heard in my life

04:51:01.600 and there are men who fall for that but this is not a cause of men how are men causing that i'm not

04:51:09.760 how exactly are men marionetting women in order to gaslight them with this shit like they're not i'm not

04:51:16.640 saying that i'm saying that hookup culture as a whole is negative for society it seems like it's

04:51:21.200 perpetuated by women and not men and women are the gatekeepers of sex not men you want equality if

04:51:27.120 you the second you say that there's equality egalitarianism between men and women women can

04:51:30.960 make those decisions and women are making the decision to be promiscuous and have lots of sex

04:51:36.400 they're the gatekeepers of sex they're the determiners of who gets sex and who doesn't

04:51:40.640 yeah how do you not place this squarely at the feet of women i i mean i i do that's why you know in the

04:51:46.320 bible it says you said it was men treating women you know i'm saying i'm saying that no no hold up

04:51:50.800 i'm saying that by perpetuating hookup culture we are perpetuating the idea that it's okay to

04:51:55.120 treat women who's we women we women by hooking up with men are perpetuating the idea that it's okay

04:52:02.400 to treat women poorly we're perpetuating the idea that sex is meaningless that it should that a sin

04:52:08.880 has now become normalized that should not perpetuating that men treat women poorly that's not what i was

04:52:14.400 perpetuating that we're not arguing treat men poorly i'm saying that sex should not be outside

04:52:20.880 of marriage that's what i'm saying i'm saying yeah i know i get it i agree with you sex shouldn't

04:52:24.880 be outside of marriage but what you're actually advocating for here is the opposite of what you

04:52:29.280 think you're not saying that you're that men are treating women poorly you're saying that women are

04:52:34.640 treating men poorly you're saying that women are gaslighting men they're saying to them i slept with

04:52:39.680 three guys before you and they meant nothing to me but you baby i love you so you get to wait

04:52:46.400 that's nothing more than complete gaslighting and virtue signaling what else could that be

04:52:51.360 and would that not then incentivize the man to treat you like shit so that you would sleep with

04:52:56.480 him if his if his goal is sex then yeah that that would incentivize that's what i'm saying is hookup

04:53:01.440 we're not disagreeing we're agreeing but what if his goal wasn't sex it was a long-term relationship

04:53:06.160 how would that make it better like even if my goal was to be like i want to have a long-term

04:53:11.520 relationship with you right um why is it that you not sleeping with me would be better than you

04:53:20.800 sleeping with me if you slept with the three guys previous to me who he didn't even like okay that's

04:53:26.240 that's fair i can't i can't talk on that subject i got i got a few more i got a few more uh things on

04:53:32.560 this i got a couple other examples here imagine a guy saying i invested enormous amounts of time

04:53:38.720 effort and money into getting sex from uh random women in my 20s but now i'm lazy so i won't make

04:53:46.720 any effort for uh for you who i say that you're my girlfriend or who i say you're uh you're either

04:53:53.440 girlfriend or wife material and i want marriage with you and you have to wait three months or until

04:53:58.640 marriage to get all that time effort and money i think that would be him growing as a person and

04:54:05.760 being smart but but y'all that's maybe that's the case but i feel like a lot of women would be like

04:54:13.360 okay here here's a better one you're dating a guy you guys been together for a year but he's kind of

04:54:20.320 like he doesn't really take you out on dates doesn't really take you on dates doesn't do anything

04:54:24.400 romantic never took you on a trip um doesn't want to meet doesn't want to introduce you to his

04:54:29.920 parents doesn't want to meet your parents but he's like i love you babe i care about you so much

04:54:34.240 you're the one you find out that his last three girlfriends he did all that shit for within three

04:54:41.200 months and you've been dating him for a year you don't feel you don't start to question wait what

04:54:45.520 why did he do all that stuff for his exes but not for me maybe you wouldn't feel the type of way

04:54:53.840 huh maybe because his exes played him he felt but then but wouldn't you then think oh so i got to

04:55:02.160 deal with your trauma and your bullshit from the i'm a new person right why do i have to what why did

04:55:08.160 you throw the dice and land on me and now i got to deal with your bullshit and we can't have like an

04:55:13.440 emotionally healthy relationship it's a common pattern in men that if you give them sex too early

04:55:17.200 they will leave actually i agree i totally agree with her brian um i i do here like let's do it this

04:55:26.080 way maybe this is a better way to do this i was thinking about this earlier d do all of you on the

04:55:32.080 panel agree that people work through incentives right penalties and then incentives so if i penalize

04:55:40.080 behavior you're less likely to do it if i incentivize behavior you're more likely to do it

04:55:45.280 like if i say i'm going to give you a hundred dollars extra if you do this job you're more

04:55:51.040 likely to do the job right but if i say if you do this thing i don't like i'm going to dock your pay

04:55:57.760 you're going to be less likely to do that thing right does everybody agree with that show of hands

04:56:02.720 if you agree that that's true just raise your hands okay great then if we're talking about penalties

04:56:08.880 and incentives then isn't it true that if you sleep with men you don't like you're incentivizing

04:56:17.200 men you don't like to sleep with you show of hands if that's true

04:56:24.080 okay then if that's the case then if you refuse to sleep with men that you do like

04:56:30.080 then wouldn't that create a disincentive for the men you do like to be with you

04:56:39.760 yes right so it's a matter of incentives so literally what you're saying is we incentivize

04:56:46.240 men to treat us poorly we're incentivizing men to treat us like fuck dolls and leave us

04:56:56.320 because we give the incentives to the bad ones to fuck us and we give the incentives to the good

04:57:01.440 ones that we're not going to fuck them it's just it's it's like it's like candy right if i if i

04:57:07.440 were if i were training a dog i would train the dog when it did a good thing i would give it a treat

04:57:12.720 and when it did a bad thing i would chastise it right isn't that how you train a dog yeah so if every

04:57:20.160 single time you slept with a bad guy that's a treat right then how are you not incentivizing that

04:57:27.760 behavior right but anybody give me an explanation for that like any of you can any of you give me

04:57:34.480 an explanation for that i agree with you yeah i agree with you and i think hookup culture is very

04:57:38.800 toxic but i think men perpetuate hookup culture the most okay well we can get into that in just a

04:57:43.360 big go ahead michaela right um i mean i feel like it's a catch-22 because the like men men

04:57:50.240 not typically staying with women who do sleep with them immediately is incentivizing us to

04:57:57.120 not sleep with them immediately so it's just like why are you sleeping with them immediately i'm i mean

04:58:02.880 i'm not but i'm just saying like why are women doing this then that makes no sense like this

04:58:07.840 argument you're that you're making right now reinforces my own yes i agree if it is the case

04:58:15.040 that men are more likely to move on after you have sex with them immediately then why the

04:58:21.120 are women immediately having sex with men that's why can any of you can somebody explain this to me

04:58:27.440 because there's people that are only meant in that way and then there's because you really love and

04:58:32.000 you want to prove yourself right you wouldn't do that on the first day you care about what they

04:58:37.120 are just retarded you don't care i think a lot of women there's people you don't care about but they

04:58:41.440 serve uh energy or a day and time whatever yeah i mean it just sounds it's the most counterintuitive

04:58:50.080 thing i've ever heard like you know what you know like imagine cindy and shirley are having a

04:58:55.760 conversation and cindy's like you know what you know what men they only want one thing and that's to

04:59:03.040 have sex and shirley's like yeah so we should have sex with them it's like this is stupidest

04:59:10.400 fucking shit i've ever heard in my life why would you incentivize that behavior if you think that

04:59:16.160 that behavior is bad it's like i just don't even i don't even understand it i i have a few more things

04:59:22.480 here than i do want to move move on just because we have quite a bit more to get to but i one analogy

04:59:28.160 i've i've said it before on the show so it's like making a man wait while her you know woman's past

04:59:34.880 10 20 whatever previous partners she slept with on the first or second date is like

04:59:40.000 me going to mcdonald's and everyone in the restaurant paid one dollar for a cheeseburger

04:59:45.200 and then there's three people in line ahead of me they all pay one dollar for a cheeseburger

04:59:49.600 then i finally minutes later i get to the front of the line ask for a cheeseburger and the clerk looks

04:59:57.200 at me and says it's a thousand dollars for you sir because i like you more than those other

05:00:04.320 customers those other other customers were just a mistake it will be a thousand dollars for you

05:00:11.680 i you know you know what i mean okay all right it's a good i don't think they get it i don't know if

05:00:16.480 they get it oh what i see is um you want to do good for your man uh so part of that is sex so that

05:00:25.120 has nothing to do with it the reason why they're leaving these people afterwards and now you have

05:00:29.360 another partner is because they have um obedience um they have boundaries and they know what's good

05:00:36.480 for their whole life so in that time they saw something that wasn't right and turned away and

05:00:41.520 that's strength and i guess uh yeah i guess final thing on this and it's at least from i i i understand

05:00:47.920 though as a woman it's a difficult position because on one hand it's like

05:00:54.080 it's like well am i gonna lose the guy if i don't but then you also like if i do then is he gonna

05:01:01.440 judge me or like not want to pursue a long-term relationship honestly though i think if the guy

05:01:06.720 is really interested in you like if if he's going in wanting a long-term relationship and you have sex

05:01:12.160 with him it's hard for me to see a scenario where he's like oh we just had amazing sex and i i

05:01:18.960 previously wanted to have a long-term relationship with her i'm no longer interested in her because

05:01:22.400 of this no there but then yes there are the men who are just interested in sex that you have to be

05:01:27.440 wary of uh i i get that my position though at least what i'm looking for in a woman is i'm not

05:01:33.280 interested in a one-night stand like if i sleep with a girl i want there to be a continuity i'm pursuing

05:01:38.080 like i want to pursue a relationship with a girl if i have sex with a girl like you have to

05:01:41.840 up really bad in some way after the sex for me to be like i'd never want to see you again

05:01:47.040 like if i sleep with the girl there's intention there i want there to be continuity i want to

05:01:51.040 keep seeing her and so at least maybe not all guys move that well i know there's guys who don't

05:01:56.400 move that way there's guys who are just trying to have sex with you once goodbye nice meeting you

05:02:00.480 wham bam thank you ma'am uh i think that's weird though for a couple different reasons but it's like

05:02:05.920 for from my perspective where i am interested in having a long-term relationship with a woman

05:02:10.640 i i will feel the type of way if i'm like you know you know because i think it's normal to kind

05:02:16.400 of talk about like oh well what's your relationship history and if you like sussed out like okay maybe

05:02:22.000 she's had a couple hookups here and there and it's like oh you want to wait three months

05:02:27.680 and i mean it's like though we we're adults both already done this i mean the woman's free to do

05:02:34.400 that but then i just kind of feel like she's just not she's playing a game i don't think she's

05:02:40.240 even that into me and um that's just my position it's kind of like there was this viral thing on

05:02:46.480 twitter a while ago where a uh a woman a guy broke up with his his girlfriend i think she she said

05:02:57.040 i would never hook up with you but your marriage material and like y'all women think that's a

05:03:02.080 compliment that is trust me don't ever say that to a guy oh you're not the guy i would hook up with

05:03:07.600 you're the guy i would date or trust me don't say that to a dude because it's it's not good like it's

05:03:15.280 not good like we want to be the guy that you're you would hook up with but you also want a long-term

05:03:21.520 relationship um so and also like you can start as like a bit more casual go into something more

05:03:27.120 serious but yeah what's your thing don't men say the same thing like oh i'd smash her but i wouldn't

05:03:31.200 date her or i wouldn't marry her oh sure yeah sure sure right dude so what does that have to do with

05:03:36.960 anything though yeah like you guys also pick and choose who you want to have sex with and oh no men

05:03:43.680 don't choose who they who they have sex with women choose yeah sure but yeah men have sex with who they

05:03:49.680 can women have sex with who they want i would love to hear this from a christian male perspective like the

05:03:54.160 whole i would love to hear that do you think that because you're a christian and a man that somehow

05:03:59.520 that alleviates you from the same burdens of every other man on planet earth it doesn't no no women

05:04:04.320 are still the gatekeepers of sex and they're still the ultimate architects of what that will be and who

05:04:08.880 they'll have it with i just think that most men that i know that are christian that's not like the

05:04:13.200 primary focus in their life is to have sex with a woman like they have the the reason for christianity i

05:04:19.200 mean to follow the principles in the day-to-day life right is to you're trying not to sin here

05:04:24.880 let me just make it really simple um you're waiting until marriage right correct yeah i mean this is a

05:04:29.120 secular con convert like the this specific topic is probably more secular because i'm assuming like

05:04:35.680 at least for him or certain christian men they're waiting until marriage so i don't think this

05:04:40.160 conversation really pertains to like a christian actually it does it does well it pertains it might

05:04:45.360 pertain to it and well would it pertain to it in the sense of the christian man who's waiting for

05:04:50.240 marriage wouldn't want to there's no distinct there's no distinction here with it it's it's kind

05:04:54.720 of funny because it's still christian women still yeah yeah the choosers i i have also been in a

05:05:01.120 situation with a previous ex-girlfriend where like she she was not a virgin and oh she once said something

05:05:10.800 she said i said i would have been able to get you to sleep with me right i'm like if we weren't

05:05:17.280 christians and we weren't waiting till marriage and she said no i was at the point in my life at that

05:05:22.560 point where i wouldn't have given it to you and i was like i feel pretty jibbed by that i feel

05:05:29.680 jibbed in my life where i would have right that's exactly right yep so so the thing is is like christian

05:05:36.640 men they also have to deal with an entirely other aspect of this which is the virtue of the woman

05:05:43.520 who says i'm now a reformed christian though i was promiscuous in my past 100 and now you should

05:05:49.040 accept me because i was promiscuous in my past but christian men still have the option of saying no i

05:05:55.200 still have a preference against your former promiscuity the woman though is still the chooser

05:06:00.400 so the thing is it's like no matter what whether you're a secularist or you're a christian or a

05:06:06.640 muslim or whatever maybe not muslims it depends on the region right but if you're a christian in the

05:06:11.680 west or a secularist the woman's still going to be the chooser the decider on the access and

05:06:18.160 gatekeeping to sex even if they're waiting to marriage you're just elongating the process right

05:06:24.240 but it's still the same thing so if you were to tell me let's say i was on like christianmingle.com

05:06:29.360 or something and and you go we go on a date and i sit down with you and you're like look

05:06:34.800 i am a shaved woman right i'm a born again virgin though your hymen doesn't grow back you are a born

05:06:41.920 again virgin uh whatever that means and you're going to go on the straight and narrow and i'm like wow

05:06:48.160 that's that you know great you know i'm glad you're a woman of virtue now that's fantastic i wouldn't

05:06:53.440 hold your past against you of course you came to christ that's fantastic but then he said something

05:06:58.160 to me like yeah you know it's really the guys who i like that i i wouldn't sleep with it's the

05:07:05.280 guys i didn't who i would sleep with we're still in the same exact position we've just added jesus

05:07:10.480 christ to the mix right it's still the same thing all right there's no avoiding the question uh moving

05:07:17.200 on michaela you said dating is extremely difficult right now because people are so closed off and

05:07:21.840 either their standards are too high or they don't want a relationship when you say uh their standards are

05:07:26.880 too high do you think this is for for men for women for both um i think for both both who do you

05:07:34.560 think it's like worse for like who has higher standards men or women um right now like um

05:07:43.200 um i don't know it's probably equal equal yeah you think social media is what's contributing to that

05:07:53.840 uh yeah i think it's a big part of it yeah i think women are big here and have higher standards have

05:08:02.800 higher standards yeah like here how about this maybe let's just maybe look at it from looks really quick

05:08:08.800 um what percentage of men do you think are attractive um

05:08:18.640 i don't know probably like have you been on a dating app before yeah yeah like how many percent

05:08:24.880 like what percentage of the men do you swipe yes for um on a dating app probably like

05:08:30.320 10 percent 10 percent what about you for realistic one percent one percent one percent of men are

05:08:37.440 attractive what about you maybe like 20 percent of men okay five five percent okay 15 15 okay five all right

05:08:51.440 uh yeah i think like five to ten percent in general are you asking in general are you asking on a

05:09:01.280 dating app have you been on a dating app not well it'd be hard for you to answer the question then so

05:09:05.840 answer it in the way that you can answer it okay um maybe ten percent okay it's super rare seriously so

05:09:15.040 like i'm gonna find somebody breedable breedable okay all right pump the brakes there uh breedable

05:09:22.800 okay um you know i'm picky damien i'm gonna send you a uh infographic here really quick that pertains

05:09:28.240 to this uh what percentage of women do you think are attractive it's is it low for you it's it's low

05:09:33.600 brian knows i'm picky he's trying to set me up he's trying to set me up first off

05:09:38.880 set you up with a crit i i was in contact with a christian virgin who reached out to me on the show

05:09:45.920 i you're a virgin she's a virgin uh but you didn't like her okay but i do have oh man i hate using this

05:09:54.160 word but i have a type and i have a little bit of a like roster so i mean you gotta like perform a

05:10:00.320 little bit better you know what i'm saying oh i like there are there are a lot of girls reaching out

05:10:04.080 right pull it up pull it up damien uh so i mean this is so this is uh and and they've replicated

05:10:10.640 this sort of study and they found this like occurring in other dating apps so uh at the top

05:10:15.280 how men rate women uh and then the bottom is how women rate men uh this is on the dating app and so

05:10:22.720 women are like when it comes to i think pretty sure this pertains to looks here uh men rate women pretty

05:10:28.480 fairly on the bell curve but like women are really harsh judges of men uh in terms of their attractiveness

05:10:35.360 uh they find something like uh those first three bars 27 31 so that's like uh 60 that that's uh like

05:10:47.280 80 percent so they find i would say they find 80 percent of men like below uh below average looking

05:10:54.480 which kind of pans out with some of your answers here uh 12 average five percent i guess that that

05:11:00.320 would be uh like above average two percent would be like attractive zero well zero percent most wow

05:11:05.360 that's rough uh it's hard out there but uh i mean just on this basis basis alone it seems like women

05:11:10.960 are really picky when it comes to physical appearance i think i happen to think for both men and women you

05:11:15.440 can make arguments that maybe men are a little like a little more preoccupied with physical appearance

05:11:20.320 but i think women are like it sort of levels out when you factor in like well maybe men care more

05:11:26.000 about it but also women find very few men physically attractive so i don't know uh so that's one thing

05:11:33.760 and also i do think when it comes to the looks thing so uh i think when it comes to the the things

05:11:41.600 that women care about when it comes to looks a lot of that stuff's out of a guy's control height hair

05:11:47.520 penis size guy can't control that you know i think most people don't take care of their physical

05:11:57.760 appearance yeah i mean a lot of girls like bald guys there's plenty of attractive bald men sure but

05:12:04.240 most women prefer men with a full head of hair no i think it depends on the man because a lot of men

05:12:09.360 will look good bald am i wrong to state that most women prefer men with a full head of hair i think you

05:12:17.200 are but listen listen are there attractive men who are bald absolutely are there women who are

05:12:23.600 attracted to bald men absolutely but i'm speaking more generalities here i do think it's fair to say

05:12:28.800 in the same way that i think women are attracted to tall men like and typically the taller the better

05:12:34.160 although like once you get into like you know six eight maybe women have like a preference for like

05:12:39.440 six foot six one six two six three uh i think generally speaking women prefer men with a full head of hair

05:12:45.280 i don't think you don't think so i don't think okay what percentage of women prefer bald men 51 i think

05:12:50.960 women make fun of bald men but like in all actuality like we would date a bald guy y'all

05:12:57.280 would date a bald guy yes i think you like bald guys wait wait what i think that's i just want to make

05:13:01.840 sure i'm clear i gotta get clarity here it is your official position that women would have no preference

05:13:11.120 when it comes to a man being bald or having a head of hair i just want to be i've never heard a girl

05:13:15.360 state that she cares about a specific hairstyle on a guy great let's run a social experiment real quick

05:13:21.600 all the girls at the table i'm going to assume all of you are maximum honest right at this moment

05:13:27.040 do you prefer if you prefer men with hair raise your hand not saying it's a deal breaker just say you

05:13:34.560 prefer it you could still date a bald guy now hang on look around real quick you said you've never

05:13:40.400 heard of a woman even one time saying this now how many women do you count that's the entire panel

05:13:46.880 just just pointing that out i feel like as we get older i think like with our age okay i think with

05:13:53.920 our age like yeah like we're dating someone around our age they have to have hair because if you don't

05:13:57.360 have hair that's just odd but i feel like as you get older now she's now she's i feel like if you're

05:14:03.680 if you're an older woman you're dating older men you wouldn't be like a guy being bald like what

05:14:10.320 like that's a that's a problem okay so hold on i'll explore that super quick so yeah i mean as a

05:14:16.320 woman ages like the the men in her age cohort and women are typically gonna like date a guy

05:14:23.440 like women aren't you know 35 year old woman's typically not like trying to date a 20 year old

05:14:27.520 right so she's gonna be dating a guy like her age or like maybe within five ten years whatever

05:14:32.080 it's more common it's more likely that maybe he's starting to bald or maybe he's got a shaved head

05:14:37.200 but like if you were to ask her she might be more like she has to take an assessment uh okay well i

05:14:42.480 might have to like be a little more forgiving of this uh she would probably still prefer not to say she

05:14:50.080 would never date a guy who's bald she'd probably still prefer a guy with a big thick full head of

05:14:54.880 hair okay even at 40 even at 50 there are still men at that age who do have full head of hair

05:15:01.920 and then there's also women who are 20 and there's men who are 20 who are balding there's guys who start

05:15:07.520 balding in high school right so it's like i don't know all right i gotta move it on though oh quick

05:15:14.080 i always congratulate the elder woman when they have a man with hair still because they never knew it's like

05:15:19.920 like having a lottery ticket back then okay cool very cool very cool all right let's see here uh

05:15:26.480 we're getting into the rest of the notes trying to move through this quick uh anissa is it yeah

05:15:32.400 did i say it's not anissa anissa no it's anissa uh your anti-hookup culture give us your thoughts

05:15:38.720 um i just don't like it i mean like i used to fall into hookup culture and um for me it had effects on

05:15:47.200 like my confidence and just what i thought of myself that's just a personal take

05:15:52.640 like i don't talk down on anyone else that hooks up like my friends and they got like girl go get

05:15:59.440 that but just for me personally no or maybe just i've had my experience with that and it's just you

05:16:07.120 realize it's not something that you want or it's not something that you're into like at the beginning

05:16:11.360 it feels good then once you're done it's kind of you feel a little less than or me personally i feel

05:16:15.920 a little less than sure all right that's fair bella getting into your notes you said your ex's

05:16:21.280 mom worked as a hospital receptionist and uh she didn't like you and uh went through your medical

05:16:28.160 records and reported everything back to your ex so what were in your medical records

05:16:35.200 and how much psychiatric treatment have you had quite a lot oh really have you been 51 50 i have not

05:16:41.360 but it was just like medication on there oh what was that for bipolar no it was for uh anxiety

05:16:49.440 depression huh ptsd oh ptsd but um not trying to make it awkward did you uh did you go to war

05:17:00.240 no do you fuck with the war no oh okay just okay we don't have to get into the you know we won't get

05:17:08.080 into the causes i thought maybe it was like you saw some shit in like iraq or something um okay uh

05:17:14.560 so she reported it and then did you that seems like that's probably like a hipaa violation it is

05:17:20.320 definitely and then also like totally invasive and so did you uh did you break up with him or um

05:17:30.560 so it's a long story but basically she kind of covered it up the way that it happened was that

05:17:35.600 um because of the fact that she worked at kaiser she wanted to

05:17:42.080 kind of schedule me an appointment for my eyes to get it checked and then she got my card because

05:17:46.320 she was like oh like let me schedule it for you so she grabbed it and then read all of it

05:17:50.960 and said it was an accident that it just popped up um i mean i believed her i i don't know what it

05:17:56.800 looks like when if you scan it but i would assume that it you have to go look for it but

05:18:03.680 yeah yikes okay uh you also have a story first date story the guy couldn't get hard so he wore a vr

05:18:11.040 headset and made you you choose which adult content he would watch while he thrusted you

05:18:20.560 while being soft with the headset on while being coked out

05:18:27.440 did you date him for like three years or was that was that the six-month guy was that the six-month

05:18:31.920 guy no okay so this was obviously my opinions have changed on the hookup culture but this is back when

05:18:38.080 like i wasn't really educated on what hookup culture actually was um i had like i think like

05:18:44.880 five dates with the guy and then we finally like got to it but i don't know how to explain that he

05:18:52.160 basically what what kind of vr was it like the like the oculus vr headset and so he was like i can't

05:18:57.440 get hard so like just give me a second and then he put it on oh he put it on he put it on and then

05:19:02.480 you picked yeah he searched up for him and then he like i feel like that's got to be a little

05:19:06.480 offensive to the woman like right with the ladies wouldn't you be okay you're hooking up with a guy

05:19:11.600 he can't get hard and he's like uh i have to wear a vr headset while having sex with you yeah

05:19:21.040 and you allowed him to do that yeah i would have he was my ride home and he's also cooked out so i can't

05:19:25.920 like i can't just leave so that's why you don't let them take you anywhere you gotta make sure you got your

05:19:32.160 own that's a great you should you should have married that guy no literally like that's how

05:19:36.000 you tell your kids like oh yeah like the first time we we we had sex in fact he impregnated me

05:19:44.960 with a vr headset oh my goodness that's so romantic imagine telling like your future kids

05:19:50.880 he couldn't get hard so it's like he's literally thirsty in the air okay but you never saw him again

05:19:56.160 after that right no you said something you wrote something here about getting leaked what is that like

05:20:01.280 something something leaked um like pictures or whatever is that what you're talking about yeah

05:20:06.880 so basically i had really shitty exes just but um he had to take in a recording of me and then also

05:20:15.040 pictures while we were sleeping together and then he got the mail and then sent it to my address

05:20:23.520 under my parents name okay oh my goodness i is that a i think that's a crime maybe i don't know um

05:20:30.000 you got uh threatened to get married at 16 someone threatened yeah he threatened he was basically like

05:20:36.720 it's like he had a knife and he's like marry me like what he was basically like if you don't marry

05:20:41.360 me you don't love me you don't care about me and i was like 16 so i was like damn this guy

05:20:46.160 don't keep thinking about it like okay uh you also got blackmailed same guy

05:20:49.360 yeah yeah same person okay nice wow wow uh you also wow you uh here's another one you dated a guy

05:20:58.320 who was homeless and you paid for his rent while while he or you were making 150 a week yeah and

05:21:06.480 this was when you were at 16 yeah so at 16 wait were you living with your parents yeah they wait hold

05:21:13.440 on both are are your parents still together yeah live together live together you were at your

05:21:19.440 parents house did you ask them that you're wait he you let a homeless man move into your parents

05:21:27.680 house long story short um i don't know if you would consider this like actual dating or not but i met

05:21:33.760 him online and then after basically but after i've been talking to him for a while wait hold on you

05:21:39.360 met him online yeah after how old was he 19 is that is this in california is that is that no is that

05:21:47.920 a yikes where's this so when we had a meetup at what what state were you on tinder no the date was

05:21:57.120 it a dating app no it was literally through like online like uh through what like it was through gaming

05:22:03.120 oh gaming okay what game siege siege rainbow six each yeah yeah of course i know what that is

05:22:10.720 oh oh no no i know what it is okay go ahead go ahead um okay so he's homeless trying you moved

05:22:18.560 him into your parents house what's the story um okay let me backtrack so we hadn't talked or we had

05:22:26.880 talked for like a long time and then his parents had kicked him out he flew down here and then i basically

05:22:32.880 got an airbnb for him to live in oh okay so he didn't move in with your parents no he was living

05:22:41.920 in an airbnb how long did that last like two three months but then i like could not did your parents

05:22:48.480 know um they knew i was like getting housing housing an adult while you were oh my this just sounds

05:22:58.080 that's incredible doesn't your dad know or wait i don't never mind never did you say you were taking

05:23:05.280 a break from dating you said you were taking a break okay i understand why this is psychopaths

05:23:11.600 getting things okay all right that's cool um housing damn good times um i actually know homeless guy like

05:23:16.880 are you down to take him in sure i'm kidding i'm kidding her eyes lit up no more uh you said you disagree i

05:23:23.120 don't i mean i don't know you said you we asked if you disagree with anything on the show host you

05:23:28.000 said not too sure but you disagree on extreme uh beliefs on control i.e women are property well i

05:23:37.120 don't that's not my position i don't think that's andrew's position either but uh i don't know i could

05:23:43.520 have wrote that at like three in the morning no that's fine okay we don't have to get into that then

05:23:46.800 uh but this would be a good segue though maybe you know i don't know if this is controlling it's

05:23:52.560 more so what i i'd like in a woman can we pull up the clip of my ex-girlfriend please pull up the

05:24:00.080 bow video and then we're going to do an instagram react after it so this is my ex-girlfriend i had

05:24:06.320 to dump her up start from the beginning oh my god all right go ahead boom huge bow so this is my

05:24:13.120 expectation i want my girlfriend to bow to me at least once a day um preferably more but you know

05:24:18.640 once a day satisfactory uh you know getting my laundry ready i just was coming home from a long

05:24:24.320 day shooting the podcast and very attentive which is good very attentive scampering to the refrigerator

05:24:30.640 cracking open the beer or the whatever that was um and uh i had to scold her for those tomatoes if you

05:24:39.040 look in the bottom right corner she just had tomatoes that were that's gross uh play one more time

05:24:44.960 and then boom huge bow okay so this is uh i do want my girlfriend to do a a respectful bow

05:24:56.640 i expect you can't do like the that it has to be at least i think 40 45 degrees minimum is respect

05:25:04.720 i prefer deep bow though so that's like a 90 degree bow okay yeah so um

05:25:12.160 yes do you have a problem with it anybody have any panelists have a problem with my

05:25:16.320 i do yeah oh speak up speak up come on anybody is crazy i mean like oh yeah i'll prepare food for my

05:25:25.760 men you know that have food for you when you come home from a long day of work but bowing

05:25:30.960 bowing for you yeah is insane by the way i just want to make this clear i expect this of all races

05:25:38.160 i know she was an asian woman but don't any of you here be racist i date white women the widest

05:25:43.760 women they can be very pale they still have to bow in fact i'll date a latina bow black woman bow native

05:25:51.040 american bow pacific islander bow uh middle eastern bow

05:25:59.760 are there any other i don't know um so wait you anybody else object i'd like to hear some objections

05:26:05.440 i think the man should bow to the woman okay we'll get to your

05:26:08.160 don't worry we'll get back we're gonna get back oh the what i think the christian woman needs to

05:26:16.480 weigh in on the the bow thing though what do you object to the bow um yeah i i would prefer not to

05:26:24.560 bow to my partner but what if he what if he uh you were married to him and he he asked you to do it

05:26:29.840 is it a joke because that would be funny he he's not like gonna murder you over it but he he does

05:26:37.840 want it politely but also do that shit but also polite respectfully no you you would say that

05:26:45.840 respectfully no but hold on isn't what andrew bible verse i know submit to your husband i already know

05:26:54.320 what's the uh what's the bible verse you're talking about the the obey so it says yes wives are

05:27:01.760 supposed to submit right and but at the same time you you know wives are supposed to submit to your

05:27:08.000 husband but also men are supposed to it's it's like jesus is to the church right so women you know

05:27:16.720 you're supposed to submit to your husband as what christ you know you submit to christ like the church

05:27:22.560 is under christ in that way but also men are supposed to have this sacrificial love for you

05:27:28.640 so do you have a sacrificial love for your girlfriend you get the sacrificial love if you

05:27:32.800 submit see see this is something that's like highly debated among the christian community no it's not

05:27:38.320 highly debated there you didn't let me finish my okay you didn't let me it's not highly debated but

05:27:43.120 go ahead okay what i was gonna say is is this idea that you need a sacrificial love and you need to

05:27:49.920 submit to your husband it's kind of like a idealistic relationship that is very hard to obtain so i

05:27:59.280 mean do you have that with your wife let me help you with something okay i'm gonna i'm gonna help

05:28:04.240 you out with your theology i'm gonna i'm gonna demonstrate for you why it's incorrect okay do you

05:28:09.200 receive divine revelation through the holy spirit which assists you with exegeting meaning interpreting the

05:28:15.120 text of the bible sorry was that a question let me repeat the question yes sorry when you

05:28:25.760 read the bible yes are you filled with the holy spirit and the holy spirit is telling you

05:28:32.640 that what you're reading is true yes and so your interpretation of that text is true

05:28:38.720 well i mean god says to lean not on your own understanding so i'm not supposed to interpret

05:28:46.960 whose understanding are you leaning on right now i'm i'm leaning on my own this is something

05:28:52.800 okay so then so then wait that's really confusing wait wait wait wait lean not on your own understanding

05:28:58.960 but you're leaning i agree with you i agree with you this is a point in christianity that i i have

05:29:03.920 struggled with and i haven't yet then just help me out with this okay if it is the case that the

05:29:09.840 holy spirit is in you and that is what is assisting you in reading the bible so you know it is true

05:29:17.360 is that how people interpret the bible that specific line or are you talking about no is that how people

05:29:24.560 interpret the holy spirit yes yes that's okay and the holy spirit is telling you what is true right

05:29:34.720 yes then how come you don't write down everything the holy spirit tells you as a new form of the bible

05:29:43.520 that's fair i mean that's why there's so many denominations that's an issue among christians

05:29:47.520 like not why don't you write down everything the holy spirit tells you

05:29:53.520 and call it a new bible because you're not supposed to lean on your own understanding that's

05:29:58.320 me leaning on my understanding wait who's understanding are you leaning on

05:30:04.240 i'm hang on hang on brian this is important i'll tie it in very quickly okay try to be yeah

05:30:09.920 very quickly who's understanding are you leaning on

05:30:14.400 when i'm reading the bible who's understanding am i leaning on is that the question

05:30:18.160 you have no idea and so the thing is is like this is why you have you have a flawed theology

05:30:29.840 okay you don't even know what your theology is and because of that and i just showed you why that

05:30:36.800 is true i should literally walked you through step by step why this is the case right when i tell you

05:30:44.640 christianity is patriarchal christianity from the top down two thousand years of church history it is

05:30:51.360 a patriarchal religion where you are to submit to your husband as and it and i i'll give you the text

05:30:59.680 if you want sarah called abraham lord you are to submit and call your husband lord as as sarah called

05:31:08.400 abraham lord why if that is the case that you're supposed to have that kind of reverence for your

05:31:14.560 husband will you not bow that's fair would you bow that's actually that's fair i mean what he said

05:31:24.000 was fair yeah it's fair would you bow would you bow to your lord

05:31:33.680 andrew i think we've just convinced her to be an atheist

05:31:36.400 no never that one never that one no no this i mean this is actually thank you

05:31:41.840 no no we get that it's fair would you bow to your husband

05:31:47.600 this is hard for me like i'm a new christian so i i'm i'm not

05:31:50.640 like you could be leading me down something that i'm okay just give andrew the benefit

05:31:55.840 of the doubt he's a hundred percent correct on the theology if he was do you bow to your husband

05:32:00.880 well he's the head of yeah he would be you know he's the head and you're the body so then i guess

05:32:05.600 yes okay how about this um and andrew maybe you want to weigh in on this too uh you're you get married

05:32:11.440 right you want to get married eventually and then have kids yes okay your husband in his determination

05:32:17.920 for what's best for the family wants you to sell your boat and stop sailing

05:32:24.880 brian just real quick i just wanted uh ephesians 5 22 wives submit to your husbands as to the lord

05:32:33.280 who is the lord jesus christ would you bow to jesus christ yes and and i think that actually is a good

05:32:39.120 point that you just brought up with that verse because you know the bible also does say that you

05:32:43.440 know if there's there's an instance i don't remember the name of the woman but her husband

05:32:48.560 was not obeying god and so she went on her own accord to an army and negotiated with them because

05:32:55.280 he was being unreasonable he was being prideful and so there is a differentiation there of you know if

05:33:00.880 if a man is sacrificial in his love as christ was well so hold up what i'm saying is is if a man is

05:33:07.040 sacrificial in his love as christ was who gets to make that decision if you are following christ and your

05:33:12.720 husband who gets to make that decision you or your husband if you're let me speak please if your

05:33:19.440 husband is leading you away from christ i want to know i'm trying to say something and you're cutting

05:33:23.600 me off question if your husband but i was saying something who gets to make the decision who do you

05:33:30.400 get to make it or does he if it goes against god he does not get to make the decision if it is

05:33:38.160 following the bible who gets to make the decision jesus christ jesus christ gets to make the decision

05:33:44.480 okay so jesus christ is telling you then no jesus christ in the bible you follow the bible so if your

05:33:50.000 husband i'm asking you a question yes you think your husband's going against theology and he thinks you

05:33:55.520 are who submits to who that's fair yeah you don't know no you're supposed to obey as unto the lord for

05:34:06.160 this reason because hang on if an impasse comes up if an impasse comes up you are to obey for this reason

05:34:16.320 because otherwise you are the person being submitted to you are the ultimate arbiter do you understand if

05:34:23.920 you go to your husband and say your theology is wrong you are not doing what god wants

05:34:31.600 then you are the ultimate arbiter and not him there's explicit words in the bible so if he

05:34:38.320 goes against we can't get to we can't go too much deeper into the theology stuff here but okay yeah fair

05:34:44.160 enough i mean um i'm just i'm just i'm just pointing out i have one final very quickly i'll just i'll just

05:34:50.000 end it with this if it is the case as brian says okay that you are you are to submit to your husband

05:34:58.160 as you would unto the lord then bowing should be no problem right it's your own willful pride that

05:35:04.480 would prevent you from doing that it's not an unreasonable expectation if you are to obey as you

05:35:09.280 would unto the lord to bow to your husband that's what my ultimate point is i could get into why your

05:35:14.400 theology is flawed in another time but i'm just pointing out that it's very flawed very obviously

05:35:20.960 flawed but anyway i agree with you thank you i'm trying to learn again i've only been christian for

05:35:27.280 a year so i appreciate you speaking through it and actually giving me real information rather than just

05:35:34.800 attacking so i do appreciate okay so going back to my thing your husband he says i want you to sell your

05:35:41.520 boat and stop sailing do you do it if if that's his will then yes okay all right there you have it

05:35:50.640 uh any other objections to the bow video from anybody

05:35:58.000 is it wrong yeah but to each their own is it what is it wrong yeah wrong it's wrong about it's wrong

05:36:04.480 i mean okay well look well go ahead go ahead go ahead

05:36:12.640 why do you think it's wrong the type of person who wants to see as women as equal to you

05:36:18.160 what do you mean because i feel like your whole argument is we established at the beginning

05:36:23.920 equality is is not not there as in jobs i could just turn this around on you okay like why do women

05:36:31.520 want men to open the car door why do women want uh men to open doors why do women want men to pay

05:36:37.200 for first dates like do you want a guy to pay for the first date i don't care you don't care you have

05:36:41.920 no preference okay i mean it would be nice but there's no gender expectations at all when it comes to what

05:36:47.520 you want in the man gender expectations not like there's not i mean it could be the case maybe there's

05:36:54.960 nothing huh leading oh leading why that's not very equal of of you to expect him to put in that

05:37:01.760 effort takes a lot of work to lead yeah leading's responsibility i just think bowing is a little

05:37:06.880 bit overkill but also it's like you're submitting yourself it's it's like a hundred zero do men want

05:37:13.760 submissive women wait it's a hundred to zero it feels like you think wait you think kind of like

05:37:18.400 hold on like a peasant oh there's things that are way more submissive than a simple bow i mean if you

05:37:24.320 actually think about the physicality of it it's actually quite benign takes two seconds anybody

05:37:31.040 can do it it doesn't take any effort right yeah but looking at the video she's cooking for you her

05:37:36.080 whole life is designated to serving you what's wrong with that that's what i'm saying it's like

05:37:43.120 zero hundred is it not oh you can do way more than that that's it that's the easy shit that's the easy

05:37:51.760 shit wait until there's a situation where she disagrees with me

05:37:57.520 okay but like also like i want her to sell the boat and she doesn't want to sell the boat

05:38:03.520 you know because i think that's wrong oh okay why

05:38:10.480 i feel like if you love them you don't change them like that

05:38:12.880 okay but so um i guess what my frustration i guess the reason i bring up the bow thing is it's like

05:38:22.000 this fairly innocent totally benign action it takes no effort from the woman but you guys see it as

05:38:27.280 like oh it's disrespectful it's actually no it's like the bear it's the smallest little gesture that

05:38:31.760 you can do to show that you respect your partner and i i think what's interesting to me is like women you

05:38:39.120 have these expectations on men you want a guy to do all the chivalrous bullshit uh open the car door

05:38:44.560 be a gentleman you want a guy to like walk on the uh the ins i guess the inside of the sidewalk

05:38:52.960 so that way if a fucking car comes crack he has to die and you get to live he can protect you whatever

05:38:57.920 it is um you'd want a guy to take a bullet for you you want all these things you want a guy to pay

05:39:03.040 for dates you want a guy to take all the risks of rejection and throughout the course of courtship

05:39:08.080 there's like at least a dozen different points where a guy could you know have to take initiative

05:39:12.560 and risk rejection you want a guy to take the initiative you want a guy to make the first move

05:39:16.560 you guys want men men should do these things you want men to do all these things but the moment men

05:39:21.200 say well i want a woman to do this women should do this it's like that's you get all bent out of

05:39:27.120 shape if men start saying women should but you guys don't have any issue with saying men should and

05:39:33.280 it's just interesting to me like okay a woman will have sex with a guy on the first date

05:39:41.680 let him ejaculate inside of her let him ejaculate on her face or in her mouth and she'll

05:39:48.800 swallow it uh you'll do that shit but hold on pump the brakes for the bow

05:39:55.440 it's symbolism but what don't you think it's kind of crazy that you you got a table of women

05:40:03.120 who would not do the bow but you'll let a guy splunk on your face

05:40:09.440 because on the on the first date the bow or second date that you you are or the girl is below them but

05:40:16.320 what do you think is more degrading a guy blasting on your face getting into your eye your hair's all

05:40:20.960 fucked up for a couple days or three seconds no effort what's what's like more degrading

05:40:30.880 i feel like someone argue that it's more degrading to bow that's all right i don't know that's just me

05:40:37.520 personally yeah that was a good line of reasoning i like i think it's just uh i don't know the other

05:40:43.280 confusing thing it's like you as women if you guys and i maybe it's not your standard but i think a lot

05:40:49.520 of women how about this just show of hands who here wants a guy to pay for the first date

05:40:54.880 okay she's kind of raising her hand all right you guys want men to pay for the first date so let's

05:41:01.440 say do you think like a hundred dollars is like a reasonable price to pay for the first date for his

05:41:06.720 meal for yours i think maybe it could be cheaper maybe it's like 50 bucks or whatever but i think

05:41:11.760 like it's it wouldn't be uncommon for a guy to pay a hundred dollars like to take you to a decent

05:41:15.760 restaurant you know a drink each meal whatever if he's taking you somewhere really upscale it could

05:41:22.720 be a couple hundred or even into the thousands right it's like so your expectation there let's

05:41:28.240 say the guy makes twenty dollars an hour and it's a hundred dollar meal you expect him to work for five

05:41:34.400 hours to take you on the date let's say he works a construction job so you want a guy to physically

05:41:42.080 labor to be able to take you on the date but all i'm asking for is a bow that takes three seconds

05:41:48.000 but you want a guy to work hours to be able to take y'all out how's it wrong for me to want to bow

05:41:52.960 but you want a guy to work multiple hours to take you out let's say he's digging ditches he's got to

05:41:59.120 literally dig a ditch shovel anybody here shovel that's just hard push back anybody hello all right

05:42:08.720 i think the bow symbolizes that the female is below the man and in reality the female is above

05:42:15.120 the man so i don't think that it would make any sense to bow to a man dude she's so lost man she's

05:42:22.000 so i mean i don't i'm not lost at all and let me explain but the man is digging ditches the man has

05:42:27.120 to dig a ditch for five hours out of the day to pay for the day that's what he was made to do

05:42:33.360 that's his purpose that's what he was built for and so women are more valuable because we can

05:42:39.680 reproduce okay so when it comes to any species reproduction is the most important aspect to

05:42:48.240 its survival okay men women are reproduced men are survival okay women so men have to compensate for

05:42:55.920 their lack of ability to reproduce with having other skills for survival whereas women the fact

05:43:03.440 that we can reproduce alone makes us the superior more valuable if the men disappear the grid goes

05:43:10.720 down the refrigerators yes i'm a female i am i'm not i'm not a feminist i'm a female supremacist that is

05:43:17.520 that worse than the feminist wild it's more radical isn't that what birds do like the like the peacocks the

05:43:25.600 male peacocks are always more beautiful and they have like put on a dance and stuff like that for

05:43:29.520 the female peacocks yeah and the female peacocks i mean that's an appeal to same same with like

05:43:34.320 the lion but lions like they let the women do all the hunting and they just kick it

05:43:39.920 yeah and they they bang all of the females one male do the do the lionesses do they they do the fighting

05:43:47.520 too mate or i don't dude it's crazy well they do they do the hunting they do the hunting now there

05:43:52.800 there is cases for instance uh there were lions lions actually will get revenge there was hyenas

05:44:00.400 who used to attack a single lion pride um and the lions actually went out and murdered all the hyenas

05:44:07.760 like they retroactively paid retribution on behalf of their tribe now lions don't kill all lions who are

05:44:16.160 around just others who challenge their position if they're males but the women do do all the work

05:44:22.800 and the alpha lion generally humps all the women that's just the way it is now some of the other

05:44:28.480 women in the tribe they get helped by other male lions that does happen at the you know pride heads

05:44:37.200 dictate but i don't think it's a good idea for us to compare ourselves to lions obviously we're not

05:44:42.480 i'm just pointing out that if you wanted to reflect on how nature works and then apply it to humanity

05:44:49.840 uh definitely the males in nature run everything

05:44:56.320 i mean the the male sex in nature runs everything they're always stronger well not always but almost

05:45:03.920 always stronger and they almost always set down the dictates i also want a girl who can make me a quilt

05:45:11.760 like what kind of quilt uh a very detailed quilt how detailed that's comfortable and warm

05:45:23.520 for you to sleep with wait what is it well it's like a blanket right brian you want big needles

05:45:29.360 you want the big needle i do you want the big needle yes and if she doesn't know how to churn butter

05:45:35.120 she ain't the one she's been saving all this does that be a wolf it has to be a wolf quote something

05:45:40.880 like that um let's pull up the video damien let's pull up the video this is uh maybe what do you guys

05:45:45.840 think about this maybe related to the bow uh make it a little bigger and also unmute the audio first before

05:45:53.200 you play it uh refresh can you did you refresh it uh just refresh it yeah because and then pause it

05:46:01.840 immediately refresh yeah pause but uh unmute the audio make it one bigger play it yeah

05:46:11.280 i'll forever submit to you miles ew i'll forever respect you miles i'll forever honor you miles

05:46:27.280 as the head of our home and no other there is no other there is no one no plans of hell will ever

05:46:35.040 prosper in our marriage and will ever hold me not to be a wife that is a proverbs 31 woman i will become

05:46:43.520 that woman that builds the home as i follow you as you follow christ that is the only thing that we

05:46:49.440 will do in our household and i promise and i vow that in heaven they hear on earth i declare and decree

05:46:59.440 i shall be a submissive wife unto you as we continue to do this work of god out forever

05:47:06.320 dang wait i have a question i need that woman in my life wait she's married well wait a second wait

05:47:12.640 i just want to let all of you know and you can be you can be mad and see i'll get to you but they're

05:47:18.240 every man who's a christian who just watched that right now who's a protest which i'm not

05:47:23.360 is thinking in their head that's fucking right that's exactly how things are supposed to be

05:47:30.640 just pointing that out

05:47:34.720 go ahead shelby are you fully providing in every other aspect for the for your wife and for the

05:47:42.720 family if you watch that video she's going through like if you're gonna like financially provide and

05:47:50.240 provide like every other thing are you is that like the exchange yeah well yeah if i'm if if this

05:47:58.880 is my girl i'm taking care of everything then i think that that's she doesn't have to work yeah but

05:48:04.160 there's going to be an expectation there that i agree with that yeah i think that video is beautiful

05:48:08.560 she's like i respect you as the leader of the household she's obviously i don't know she's deeply

05:48:18.240 infatuated with the fact that he is like a man worthy of respect and i think a lot of women are

05:48:24.720 abhorred by that video because they they've never met a man worthy of their respect like they've never

05:48:31.360 met a man that was willing to do all of that they have guys that are no offense but just worse

05:48:37.600 situations where but hang on now we're getting back into this the the the sip aspect right you keep

05:48:43.520 on blaming men for this like yeah women aren't meeting the right guy it's like what is the right

05:48:52.000 guy though well in in her case you know it's somebody that would provide you know somebody that would

05:48:58.960 ultimately be worthy of respect i really don't think quality yeah well i don't think she said that

05:49:06.480 no you don't want equality you don't want to vote i honestly don't care you don't want equality in any

05:49:15.040 aspect of life no i mean as like i want to be feminine and i don't want to have to worry about

05:49:27.120 certain things i want the man in my life i want to be able to have him lead and have my respect for him

05:49:35.040 to do so andrew do you think that's totally fair let me just ask you what is it that he gets

05:49:42.640 what does he get he gets my submissiveness and my nurturing feminine abilities and for me to make

05:49:55.360 the house a home and to be there for him emotionally and for what he needs to be the masculine version of

05:50:04.720 himself are you gonna do what he says yeah within the confines of reason yeah of course okay that's

05:50:15.040 fair so let's say that the two of you are in an argument about where to send your kids to school

05:50:22.720 and you are adamant that your children should be in a different school than the one that he thinks your

05:50:27.840 kid should be in why well it disrupts your your schedule you have to drive an hour and a half out

05:50:34.480 of the way should you obey and do what he's asking you to do anyway even though you don't think that it

05:50:44.240 could be it conforms to reason yeah and the person that i marry i would assume that our beliefs and what he

05:50:55.440 is trying to build is something that i would respect and i would want to build with that

05:51:03.200 as well like build with him those things change huh those things change people's priorities change but

05:51:11.200 andrew do you believe that all men are worthy of that kind of respect from a woman

05:51:18.160 from at least a woman from a woman the truth is is that most women right seem to put themselves above

05:51:30.320 men and this is because they get a lot of sexual attention from most men because men are willing to

05:51:37.920 sleep with them that see they seem to categorize that with most men want to be with them these are two

05:51:46.160 distinct categories so my question would just be simply this to most women you want if you're a

05:51:54.240 traditional woman you want the man to take care of things financially you want the man to take care of

05:52:01.600 you what does he get most women will just say he gets me what do you get well you get everything paid for

05:52:12.000 you get you get your entire life planned out for you you have a man who will wake up at night and

05:52:19.040 die on your behalf if the boat is going down he gets on or you get on it and he stays with the boat what

05:52:28.320 does he get he gets the woman the woman is the prize right and that's exactly the problem is that you

05:52:35.760 think that the woman is the prize and so this is where i disagree what makes women the prize considering

05:52:45.040 you just will fuck anybody who doesn't even like you you'll fuck men who don't even like you

05:52:53.840 what makes you a prize if you'll fuck a man who doesn't even like you that's why lust is a sin

05:53:00.480 and that's why no no let her answer what makes you the prize if you'll fuck a man who doesn't

05:53:06.160 even like you i need just a quick exchange here just because it is getting a little very quickly

05:53:10.880 yeah what makes you the prize i think regardless of like women and their body count or like who they

05:53:18.240 sleep with um i think women are still valuable regardless because women can reproduce and you

05:53:25.120 still want smacks out of that woman regardless of like oh you want smacks out of the woman but

05:53:30.160 you'd want smacks out of the woman even if you couldn't reproduce with her right yeah okay well

05:53:36.160 then the reproduction aspect doesn't seem to be the key here does it so if that is the case then tell me

05:53:42.160 again if you'll fuck men you don't even like how are you my prize or any man's prize well i personally

05:53:49.360 wouldn't fuck a guy that i don't like and i don't think any woman is fucking guys that they don't like i

05:53:53.840 think well this is a massive massive disproportionate distinction between the position you held earlier

05:54:01.280 where you were coping over and over again no i said they don't seem to have sex with men they don't

05:54:06.080 like all the time because they're exceptional yeah if they're exceptional then they like massive

05:54:12.400 contradictions from you again but back to uh red sweatshirt i think we've had enough of your

05:54:17.520 contradictions for an evening madame uh red sweatshirt we were we i'm sorry i didn't catch your name

05:54:23.200 earlier uh very corner to what you guys would see as my left back to you i was just wondering

05:54:30.560 you would submit to everything that your husband asked you to do yeah and if there's mutual respect

05:54:36.480 as well in the relationship what does that mean that he sees the value that i also bring to the

05:54:43.200 relationship where i do believe that the man and the woman has different aspects that they both bring

05:54:50.160 to the relationship but i think that they both have high value who gets to determine that

05:54:58.240 determine what your value

05:55:03.520 i think that it could differentiate in different relationships and i think no yours

05:55:09.520 i don't get it who gets to determine your value in the relationship with your man that you have

05:55:16.880 submitted to

05:55:25.760 i don't i don't know you don't know you don't know who gets to determine like the amount you don't know

05:55:32.400 the man you have submitted to man but you don't know who gets to determine your value in that relationship

05:55:40.560 well i feel like i would respect him and value him when he he also like sees the value in me

05:55:50.400 that's not submission that's a that's egalitarianism that's i will submit based on

05:55:55.760 conditionals i'm not saying that i'm equal but i also bring aspects to the relationship that it's

05:56:00.320 submission based on conditionals you're saying i have conditions for submission how's that submission

05:56:09.040 no i don't think that asking to be seen as value is

05:56:15.760 like not submitting yeah but when you say value this is up to you as to what your value is

05:56:22.160 is so if you say he's not seeing my value then you get to be the arbiter of what your value is

05:56:28.080 that's not that's probably not a guy that i would want to be with because we don't have

05:56:32.800 submission because we don't have the same values it can't be submission if you get to make the dictate

05:56:39.520 as to how it is that you submit no that's not submission it's not submission if you say

05:56:46.800 the man doesn't get to be the arbiter of your value but you get to be the arbiter of the value to the

05:56:53.520 man that's the opposite of submission no you're misconstruing my thoughts well it's not misconstruing

05:57:00.240 it's misconstruing but i'm willing to hear out how i'm misconstruing your thoughts

05:57:06.560 we we do have a lot to get through so you guys need to make a final point on this make it very quick

05:57:11.200 yeah yeah i don't know i'm i said i was like i think that the woman should submit to the man

05:57:20.240 but she also has value like well you can't just be a piece of trash it's not that you're a piece of

05:57:28.640 trash it's not saying you're a piece of trash it's just explaining to you that submission means that you

05:57:37.040 have given yourself over to x i have submitted to x like if you submit yourself to jesus christ you

05:57:45.040 don't get to determine to jesus christ how it is that you have submitted that's not how it works he's

05:57:52.240 the determiner it would be the same thing with a husband if you submit to a god you don't get to

05:57:57.200 determine how you submit to the god that god gets to determine how you submit so if that is the case you

05:58:03.760 you can't say i have submitted to this thing but i get to be the arbiter of how things work but that's

05:58:09.920 because what my value is that would be up to the thing you submit because that's because i know that

05:58:15.440 god already sees the value in me very quickly hang on very quickly and i'll let you respond could you

05:58:20.960 imagine going to a god and saying you don't get to determine my value

05:58:26.560 that would be the that would be antithetical to submitting to the god of course he gets to

05:58:34.000 determine the value that's submission yeah but you're submitting to god because you know that he

05:58:39.680 already values you and loves you unconditionally oh so it's an exchange it's like a transaction

05:58:46.080 no no no it's not like a transaction that's what i'm saying that's not that's the opposite of

05:58:56.080 submission that's not what i'm saying anyway i'll let brian moving on sorry brian yeah i guess just

05:59:01.520 final thing on this when it comes to submission it's just interesting to me it seems like like

05:59:06.960 who here wants to have like a boss babe career anybody probably the woman who would have said yes

05:59:13.120 is gone and by the way brian we're at we're at two i'm gonna do a raid over to your channel

05:59:19.360 oh you should you should maybe wait until we get into uh this girl's notes for a little bit if you

05:59:23.920 got a got a bit more time i don't i don't this evening but um i do appreciate you guys having me

05:59:30.720 on all right um i do i do have to have the heart out of it that's fine but guys i really appreciate it

05:59:36.720 it was nice to meet all of you no hard feelings um my job is to push back against your

05:59:42.800 world views so um i appreciate meeting all of you oh andrew do you want to do a quick shout out for

05:59:48.480 debate you yeah you can um yeah i do have a course on how to do and conduct debates called debate

05:59:56.880 university brian was a co-sponsor uh which is fantastic you can find that over on uh debate

06:00:04.480 university.com so uh get over there verbal combat is the course it's fantastic and by the way we have

06:00:12.640 reduced the price you can pick it up now and i highly suggest that you do thank you guys so

06:00:19.760 much and you have a wonderful leave thank you andrew appreciate you sending over the raid guys

06:00:24.400 debate university.com check it out guys uh okay we're gonna just try to get through all of this real

06:00:29.600 quickly uh but when it comes to this last thing on the submission topic it's just interesting to me

06:00:35.200 because i feel like women have traded being submissive to their husbands to being submissive

06:00:43.280 to your employer i mean that's what you are like you have an employer they they might even bark orders

06:00:51.120 at you they'll boss you around do this do this do this you have to do it otherwise you get fired

06:00:56.560 wear this don't wear that have your hair like this be professional blah blah blah blah you'll be

06:01:03.360 submissive to your employer your cold corporation to your boss but you wouldn't be submissive to the

06:01:08.480 man who you love and who loves you who i think will most of your husbands even if they do want a

06:01:15.680 traditional relationship and they want you to be submissive are probably going to ask far less of you

06:01:20.320 than a corporation will than your boss will than your employer will i mean if you think about a

06:01:25.440 female waitress in a given day her boss is going to expect her to okay bring food over here put on

06:01:32.080 the happy face with all the rude customers wipe down the table clean the spill clean the floor clean this

06:01:37.280 clean that run this order to the pickup take out the trash organize this organize that dozen other

06:01:43.760 things i'm not even listing and you'll be a good worker drone a good worker bee but your husband

06:01:50.160 just wants you to cook and clean and you don't want to do that you don't won't do a bow i don't know

06:01:58.400 maybe you maybe you're like a hostess in your job maybe you don't bow but oh welcome to um

06:02:04.720 fucking uh i don't know fucking arby's i don't know they probably don't have hostesses as arby's i don't

06:02:11.280 know chilies you're working oh hey there welcome to chilies but you can't hit a bow for the man who you

06:02:19.120 love and you love whatever in texas wrote us you had a question yeah if you had gotten rid of like

06:02:23.920 um men doing or paying for the first date or men having to open the car doors or having to walk on

06:02:31.440 the sidewalk then do you still think that it's still normal for the women to bow down to the men

06:02:37.600 so if we get rid of yeah if we get rid of all of it i mean i think it you have to both people have to be

06:02:43.920 uh i mean so if we're talking about being traditional i think both people have to

06:02:49.280 hold up their end of the deal so like as a guy you can't be non-traditional and expect traditional

06:02:56.640 treatment and vice versa for what do you mean for it to not or to not bow and just to be clear also i

06:03:05.040 think traditional non-traditional it's kind of a spectrum i don't think everybody's going to be like

06:03:11.120 all the way to the extreme over here and like i think you you know in some ways you might not be

06:03:16.160 totally traditional but you're mostly traditional whatever um but so what's the question so what does

06:03:21.120 it take for it to be obscene for the woman to bow down to the man what does the guy have to do like

06:03:27.680 to get that yeah for it to like be

06:03:30.880 not part of your standards wait what do you mean like i don't i'm not sorry just what does it take

06:03:39.280 for like does it take like 50 50 like even split for in all before the bow goes away yeah before so

06:03:47.840 like you you're saying like oh brian if the girl was willing to pay like 50 50 with you would you

06:03:52.720 like not accept the bow like with all aspects like not even just 50 50 with paying but but if a war

06:03:59.520 happened brian would be forced to go out to fight the war uh i guess um but i mean like

06:04:10.800 i don't i'm can you be more precise i guess and i don't think it can be 50 50.

06:04:16.000 i don't think if an intruder if an intruder breaks into your home like who is going to

06:04:22.320 attack the intruder it's not the woman you know there are situations as soon as violence comes into

06:04:28.560 play then the 50 50 goes out the window like the woman simply can't in those situations be 50 50 with

06:04:37.760 the man like if there's a home invasion and i gotta go kill the guy or whatever

06:04:44.720 i don't know who here has a firearm just curious anybody i do okay um so i could kill the man

06:04:52.000 that's good for you thank you congratulations thank you uh what was your michaela were you

06:04:56.560 coming in no i was gonna say i feel like there's a difference between um like wanting something in

06:05:01.360 a relationship and thinking it should happen okay so like i don't know if you love someone

06:05:09.840 and you say like i want you to bow to me i feel like that's that's valid like you can ask something

06:05:14.480 you can say i want that but when you start saying like things should happen that's when you get to

06:05:19.680 like okay well is it 50 50 like is it even i don't think it should be like that in relationships

06:05:25.600 well how should it be i think it should be if if you want something like everyone's entitled to

06:05:32.480 wanting something there should be a conversation yeah and if you say i want that and the person

06:05:38.240 really loves you then like i wouldn't have a problem doing something for yeah so i mean but how about

06:05:44.080 this scenario guy goes on a date with you michaela and he's like i would like to have a conversation

06:05:48.480 about who's gonna pay for this date and then you're like you're gonna have that conversation and be

06:05:54.720 cool with how that date's going um well if i don't if i don't want to have a conversation

06:06:01.280 oh then i feel like that's what do you mean you don't want to have the conversation i don't know

06:06:05.680 like what if the guy what if the guy who wants you to bow you want to have the conversation with him

06:06:10.720 about not wanting to bow and he's like i don't want to have that conversation you should just bow um

06:06:16.000 well then you're probably just not a good match okay that's why people you know some people are

06:06:21.600 better for each other than others but i mean i'm trying to think of a situation where we have

06:06:27.360 the conversation about something that i'm displeased with like oh i don't want to have to do this

06:06:37.120 well i think like when you love someone you you like

06:06:43.360 you decide what you will sacrifice i guess for them like if someone came up to me was like i really

06:06:49.040 really really really want you to bow and i like really loved him i feel like i'd be like

06:06:54.320 should be on the first date you gotta hit the bow on the first date well no but that's fine like

06:06:59.840 you're entitled to wanting a bow on the first date i don't think you're wrong for that i think you coming

06:07:04.080 and saying you should bow to me on the first date is like a little kind of pushing it she should just

06:07:09.440 do it she should just do it i don't need to tell her to do it she just does it because she knows

06:07:15.440 she watches the podcast she's like ah this is what brian likes i'm just gonna do it in that case

06:07:20.880 yeah no in that case then if you find a girl that feels like feels like she should do it for you then

06:07:26.400 that's a good match i don't know what if i went up to a girl and i didn't even know her and i'm like

06:07:31.440 i'd like to have a conversation about you making the first move i don't want to make the first move

06:07:38.160 but i just made the first move but like you carry the rest of the conversation and then like i'll ask you

06:07:43.680 out on the date but then you pay for the date we should have conversations about that i think if

06:07:48.800 she felt like she also wanted to have that conversation that's fair i also maybe we should

06:07:53.840 let's have a conversation about who goes for the first kiss would you would the first kiss would you

06:07:58.880 prefer it go like that or would you prefer the guy to just go for it no i don't think you necessarily

06:08:03.280 have to have a conversation about everything that's what you said though you said there should be a

06:08:07.200 conversation about the bow i mean no no not not that there should be a conversation but it's

06:08:13.680 like you're entitled to wanting what you want oh okay i mean how is how is a girl gonna like know

06:08:21.520 that you want a bow unless she doesn't watch the show then i'm gonna have to tell her we just have to

06:08:27.360 change all of society all of this podcast that's what we're doing you know what though i've had

06:08:33.280 multiple women uh dm me who are in relationships and they're like look brian at first i thought

06:08:40.640 this bow thing's fucking ridiculous but i just like hit it real quick for my boyfriend he was like

06:08:44.960 he liked it i've had multiple women tell me the boyfriend liked it and it's like this totally benign

06:08:50.880 takes no effort and you guys are so object to it so much you know what i'll try it and i'll

06:08:56.320 give it a shot let me know yeah let me know how wow changing parts and minds brian incredible

06:09:03.840 yeah i don't know anyways i do want to move things on here just to get through everything

06:09:07.280 uh okay let's see here we have still bella or no i think okay samson

06:09:14.960 uh which in return something about high on the valid fertile breeder

06:09:20.400 no no bro don't bring that one up okay

06:09:31.360 oh i thought you were gonna elaborate a bit oh i don't know i forgot that was oh okay is there

06:09:38.080 anything you want to ask or okay okay i do know okay so um when you are attractive in your 30s

06:09:46.000 um i think being 30 years as a woman you haven't even decreased at all but there is people that will

06:09:54.800 start to slowly decline a little uh anyway there's something about uh how 20 year olds are more attractive

06:10:02.080 than 30 year olds but i think 30 year olds are more attractive than 20s for a couple reasons

06:10:06.560 one being your mind um your work ethic that you've made in the last 10 years and then how

06:10:12.720 you are aging um and i think that makes you a valid fertile breeder and i think men appreciate

06:10:20.720 to see a valid fertile breeder okay there you go all right yeah that's cool um and uh and i mean just

06:10:28.400 to be clear like i want my girl to bow do my laundry whatever i'm gonna take care of everything

06:10:36.080 i think that's a that seems like a fair trade-off yo andrew thank you for the raid man do appreciate

06:10:41.760 it very much appreciate it uh they bow that they bow without saying it directly somebody in the chat

06:10:49.040 said that yeah um okay going to ebony i wish we got into this stuff when andrew was still here

06:10:55.920 the most degen stuff ever but um all right uh actually here you one of your notes here you

06:11:02.080 say body count doesn't matter oh it doesn't uh going around the table uh do you think body

06:11:08.080 count matters does it not matter starting with michaela going around i don't know i don't know

06:11:17.520 how about this do you think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body count

06:11:21.040 um no okay i think it matters you think it matters i think they are insecure i think they're probably

06:11:29.280 comparing Shelby okay i don't think body count matters it doesn't matter all right

06:11:36.960 um kind of in the middle but it kind of matters okay um i don't think it matters i think it matters

06:11:48.160 um yeah half does matter i guess yeah i definitely think it matters Shelby yeah i just say that i don't

06:12:00.960 think it matters because from my personal experience i'm not like the same person that i used to be

06:12:08.400 and i hope that somebody wouldn't hold that against me let me rephrase the question would you hold it

06:12:14.000 against a man for taking it heavily into consideration what a woman's body count is

06:12:20.960 um if that's who she still is and is continuing that behavior but isn't who she is at this point

06:12:29.040 somewhat based off of her past yeah but i mean if she's still continuing with the act of being lustful

06:12:37.920 but i know that i've changed tremendously as a person and

06:12:44.800 yes i've made mistakes but i've also learned from that and i've also grown as a person and became

06:12:50.080 better from it yeah it sounds to me like it does matter that or that you at least wouldn't

06:12:57.600 be down on a man for thinking that it matters he has his own opinion

06:13:01.840 but i don't personally think that body count matters because you can be like it doesn't reflect

06:13:10.640 that the current person you are do you really think that somebody that's bonded with someone

06:13:15.920 physically and even chemically she was talking about the oxytocin like don't you think that that

06:13:22.640 is playing into how things are no matter how much of how much of a new person you are don't you think

06:13:28.560 that that plays a role yeah i mean you can't go back and change anything but because what the

06:13:34.400 science suggests is that the more people a woman has bonded with the less sticky the bond becomes as

06:13:42.560 time goes on hold on let's um here how about this uh since body count doesn't matter what's your body

06:13:47.760 count um seven okay going around the table michaela one okay eight eight okay i'm not gonna answer do

06:13:56.480 you want to do range like 10 to 20 something like that no comment okay yeah no comment yeah yeah i don't

06:14:05.520 feel you guys should do a comment come on give us a range anisa range how about the range

06:14:10.160 no comment let more than 10 okay uh what about you range give us a range at least okay so consider

06:14:20.800 i'm 33 i think i'm the oldest one here yeah like

06:14:27.760 a range or you could give the number i mean i'm fine with the number you could give the number give

06:14:32.160 the numbers i feel like some things are supposed to be private and something especially someone that's

06:14:38.000 trying to get married you know look i should have uh brian's whipping out the gifts he's gonna

06:14:47.120 give a gift not that it's like a lot i just feel like not everything has to be shared to the world

06:14:53.760 um hold on my lin gertrude wait you can't see it what oh there you go will you marry me

06:15:01.840 wait what will you marry me so we're engaged once we're engaged you can disclose your body count

06:15:09.360 because you're already it's like you're trying to get married we're engaged it's all good

06:15:13.760 i i think it's something that's private between you and the person that you're with

06:15:20.480 you know there's just certain things that are supposed to be private range how about just a range

06:15:24.400 then you don't have to give the exact number like no okay just pass me all right what about you

06:15:34.560 who's gonna have some colonies here um i don't know the exact number but i would say eight she would

06:15:43.120 say eight okay that's it's i've been like essayed so i don't consensual consensual i i would just

06:15:56.000 rather not talk on the subject like that makes me very uncomfortable

06:16:03.280 um mine i'm not gonna reveal either but it's all been for either uh hope of love or

06:16:08.720 a role play fantasy you could see it in their eye or like the energy that day that's what

06:16:17.600 you guys got screwed at the beginning of the table yeah let's give some

06:16:21.200 yo guys they were all on yo chat they said big ups big ups to my girl mikayla to my girl bella to my

06:16:29.280 girl ebony why do you keep forgetting my name my girl no i was i wasn't sure if you were a they them

06:16:38.720 no no not because you look that way because i feel like you didn't aren't you non-binary no when

06:16:47.120 did i ever say i was not i thought you i'm sorry i'm sorry ebony what when i thought in your your

06:17:00.480 pronouns were she they no no you must be confused me i must have you confused with somebody else yeah

06:17:07.440 you i apologize ebony i apologize that's a bow now i have to propose to make up for it uh yo w's in the

06:17:19.680 chat i want to see what kayla wella and webbony wait webbony in the chat for for actually revealing

06:17:30.400 hold on this is he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer you guys and then to those of you who

06:17:37.040 didn't do it just do it that's crazy don't let your dreams be dreams that's crazy man yesterday

06:17:46.640 you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true i will give a two dollar bill i have

06:17:54.640 more than this if you guys disclose you each get a two dollar bill do you know how much this is worth

06:17:59.600 nothing do you know how much a two dollar bill is worth you can get it at the bank will you do it

06:18:05.440 what shall be two dollar bill for a hundred oh i don't care that much that was anisa what about you

06:18:12.320 no i'm good no she okay i said she oh yeah we forgot to congratulate her too oh yeah oh my i'm such

06:18:24.000 scumbag good job i'm proud of you mecca good job weka in the chat okay all right there's the body count

06:18:31.040 um let's see if there's anything else ebony you said oh boy now we're getting i wanted andrew to

06:18:36.800 stay for yo crucible crew you're gonna want to hear this shit because it's crazy yeah he's gone oh

06:18:41.840 why do you need it peaceful now i wasn't here i was oh okay yeah he's gone i was hoping we could get

06:18:47.920 into this um you said all men's income should be deposited directly into their wives accounts yes

06:18:54.080 i don't agree married men should like their money you have to pop the glasses off for the

06:19:01.200 second okay we need to see your eyes yeah look deep into my eyes oh my goodness say this shit okay

06:19:08.880 yeah so i think that when it comes to married men all of their money should be deposited directly into

06:19:15.440 their wives accounts because first of all we know men love to cheat oh my goodness and so we know men

06:19:22.080 love to go and give their money over to their mistresses and stuff like that and i think to

06:19:26.880 ensure that women aren't being screwed over why not have it pragmatically where men have to

06:19:36.960 get like when they apply for a job they have and they put in their bank information they put in their

06:19:41.200 wives i think women should handle the finances in relationships i think do you do you understand

06:19:47.920 the credit problem in america like who spends like the most money women in like relationships and

06:19:56.880 why most relationships end up in like financial issues but there are a lot of cultures where you know

06:20:02.720 the women are the ones who handle the finances and it's perfectly fine in a capitalist society it's

06:20:09.600 not panning out women are 70 percent of the consumers but that's we target women when we're

06:20:15.120 marketing most of the time like um anyways just to be to move things on though that's not even the

06:20:19.440 most interesting thing you say you say no way you say male chastity is superior yes wait what does that

06:20:26.000 mean okay so basically i don't like i do fin domer i'm in that world yeah are you familiar with the chastity

06:20:31.600 cage i yeah the yeah i know what that is so i think that it's like a belt that it locks it locks

06:20:40.000 yeah it locks up their balls and they're yeah i don't know if i can say it on here but yeah it

06:20:45.680 locks their pp up and i think we as a society should normalize that i think we as a society

06:20:51.200 society society should normalize like men being in chastity cages i think that it would prevent a

06:20:57.440 lot of cheating that men like to do so for example right i think that if a man wants to be in a

06:21:01.520 relationship with a woman like in the talking stages or the dating stages i think that you know

06:21:05.920 he should allow her to put a cage on i mean yeah he should allow her to put a cage on him she keeps

06:21:10.720 the key and then if he if he goes around doing things with other women she'll know right and so

06:21:17.360 you know he can't now it's nothing unconsensual raise your hands if you're in favor of the chastity

06:21:23.680 cage for men i agree just to be clear brian she might be on to something right wait raise a hand

06:21:30.240 show hands raise them high michaela no not in favor bella loves it uh loves it loves it loves it

06:21:35.840 not you hold on y'all object to just a bow but y'all want to like a chat or they lie more i think that

06:21:45.600 in order to prevent them from you know indulging in their lust and being weak to their lust i think we

06:21:52.320 have as women have a responsibility to hold them accountable well that's not even the craziest

06:21:56.400 thing that you think you also think that men should have curfews yes i think men are a danger to

06:22:03.120 themselves and i think that in order to keep the streets keep the streets i think in order to keep

06:22:09.520 the streets not only safer for women but even for men themselves i think we should have men have

06:22:14.880 have curfews have curfews yeah women no because women are a danger to society like men are

06:22:22.080 what have you seen a woman driver crimes that men commit men are the number one killers of each

06:22:26.720 other yeah question though what time does the curfew start like dark i think probably not not and

06:22:35.120 i'm talking about non-working men because i know there will be like police officers but like we would

06:22:39.520 need someone to enforce this right but yeah i think probably like 11 p.m because you know once

06:22:45.680 it gets to like 12 it's like that's when all the bad that's pretty generous of you 11 i was thinking

06:22:50.320 you'd go for like 9 p.m yeah but 11 p.m you know once we get to like midnight that's when all the bad

06:22:57.680 stuff starts going down raise a hand from the women at the table should men have an 11 any curfew

06:23:03.440 should they have any curfew show fans from the women oh yeah damn bella yes oh my goodness all

06:23:09.360 right well that's not even bars are probably gonna go out of business but that's not even

06:23:13.440 the worst how is there more i thought that was it how is there more uh now before we have some tweets

06:23:20.320 of yours that we're gonna pull up before we do i found on some of your other pages here are some

06:23:27.200 things you've said actually no do we do the tweets first let's do the tweets are you talking about my

06:23:32.080 tiktok lives i have no idea no um but your friend who was going to be on the show was it her who was

06:23:39.120 into the weird race play stuff yeah are you into that or no no because i i used to be i got her on

06:23:45.440 that i got her on that she was like yes i would do race play in front of the ghost of malcolm x yeah

06:23:52.240 ridiculous yo we got two we got two other black women here okay this black woman black woman she said

06:23:59.680 like she's into race play stuff like she wants a white dude no to be having sex with her and like

06:24:08.160 saying the hard r and then i asked her i was like would you be how would you feel doing that

06:24:16.320 in front of the ghost of mlk and she was like that would make it better

06:24:20.000 oh my god and now i was like what about malcolm x even better i was like that's

06:24:25.760 up oh that's crazy i wish she was here she's such a character bro next time next time we'll get her

06:24:32.320 on oh she sounds like all right guys you guys are gonna think these tweets are crazy though

06:24:37.600 mikayla's gonna love it bella's gonna love it shelby's gonna love it

06:24:42.480 anissa's gonna love it mecca's gonna love it i don't know how you're gonna feel you guys might be

06:24:47.600 upset i don't know okay whatever i'm just kidding i don't know how you guys are gonna think okay uh

06:24:51.440 go ahead pull it pull up the tweets oh my god now i want you while we go through there's like 20 of

06:25:00.240 these i want you to read it say it slayer of white men wow that's race and you've got the middle finger

06:25:07.120 i mean white men are the main clientele in fin dom they're really they really like to be dominated i

06:25:12.560 don't know slayer of white men okay next read them as they come up so read it

06:25:20.080 i keep men in cages and only let them out to make more money for me yep

06:25:25.280 despicable absolutely despicable yeah um that is abhorrent uh next

06:25:32.960 i love using and abusing men with no mercy and that's just simple like

06:25:37.680 despicable absolutely all right next i hate men but men love you

06:25:54.480 that's what he commented back

06:25:58.480 next wow stupid white boy you said this about me didn't you i did this is after our live stream

06:26:05.680 oh my god stupid white boy bro that's really racist okay next

06:26:12.880 men deserve to be treated less than dogs they need to be locked up in cages and only allowed to

06:26:17.520 come out to only allowed to come out only to shit piss and eat but only if they've been good boys

06:26:26.240 yeah i stand on that mikaela's smiling she's holding back a smirk especially i think she's

06:26:31.760 enjoying this i don't know hold on i listen we've we've only looked at like four or five of them

06:26:38.400 i'm not even gonna say anything i'm gonna let the women at the table do you have any objections to

06:26:44.880 these statements that she's making that's why i'm laughing because they're out of pocket like

06:26:55.520 they're just crazy i mean i agree with that i hate men but i like i see that for fun like i'll see that

06:27:00.800 for fun like i don't actually like i don't actually hate men but but no the one about the cages okay

06:27:08.800 no i feel like sometimes like we all have these like inner thoughts like when a guy like and that's

06:27:12.640 what twitter's for it's like isn't that you never expect your tweets to get read back to you that's

06:27:18.160 why yeah yeah this is unique for me wouldn't that no girls here have come on the first one was crazy

06:27:27.200 do you actually believe those things or do i mean i told you my views i think men should be i think we

06:27:32.320 should normalize chastity cages i think we should have curfews on men i think she's a misandrist yeah

06:27:37.200 i'm a female supremacist yeah she believes this shit i just thought they were funny yeah i don't

06:27:42.000 agree she's for real yeah i mean i think that men are lesser i think men are weak and that's why

06:27:50.160 they're giving all their money to women online no just weak-minded okay uh ladies any any uh

06:27:57.760 you guys are a lot of generalizing you guys should be like i mean as a woman you should be like i will

06:28:03.920 not stand for this i mean i don't think it's okay like if a man said that there would be so much

06:28:12.480 turmoil about it but a woman saying it like it's societally acceptable like it's it's it's it's i

06:28:20.320 don't think that it's okay to say that about either genders i think you live in a beautiful society that

06:28:27.120 has been created and sustained by men and it's almost fascinatingly interesting that you can make

06:28:36.160 those kind of claims because of the beautiful society that you've been living in yeah that gives

06:28:44.960 you the rights to say that that they made for us where you can have that interesting viewpoint let's do

06:28:50.640 let's see the rest let's see the rest read it the good white boys who love to submit oh my goodness

06:28:57.120 bnwo that stands okay wait i didn't read it where are the good white boys who love to submit to bnwo

06:29:03.600 bnwo stands for black new world order oh my goodness watch who the fuck is that guy

06:29:11.840 what is that i don't know what that is what does that mean do you guys know what that is i've never

06:29:17.040 heard of that before bnwo are you familiar with like cuck holding oh my gosh like uh sadly yeah it's

06:29:27.920 like it's like in that realm in a sense it's like when a guy watches like the wife okay i figured we

06:29:37.520 got a we got a message here christopher murphy if andrew didn't leave you'd be in turmoil chair three

06:29:42.320 i tried to tell him i tried to tell him i'm like bro you want to stay for this ship but okay all

06:29:46.160 right uh chris guys w's in the chat for christopher murphy with the big 200 super chat thank you so

06:29:52.080 much man appreciate it uh next we'll do the next one go ahead men shouldn't vote just make them

06:30:01.760 slaves so they can send all their money to me yeah i think that i think that you know men voting

06:30:07.440 is why we're in this predicament now unfortunately what predicament what's the predicament we have

06:30:12.000 this predicament trump is removing the constitution off the page yes he did and he's focusing on trans

06:30:19.520 people like we're not literally in a economic recession right now or what like recession we're

06:30:27.280 in a recession and he's focusing on attacking trans people are we not anymore are you talking about the

06:30:34.880 executive order today about the like ban or maybe it was yesterday like uh banning the transgender

06:30:40.080 people from the military stuff like that he's also doing other stuff why is that wrong i mean because

06:30:47.200 why like let trans people do exactly what everyone else does okay but do trans people need like ongoing

06:30:54.080 perpetual medical intervention no i don't think so they don't need hormones constantly yeah but i mean

06:31:01.040 there's people do they need surgical procedures do you think it's the military's job to give trans

06:31:04.880 people surgical procedures like giving a i don't think they need a male fake tips i have a theory on

06:31:10.320 that by the way i don't think they need surgical procedures i think but they need the hormones right

06:31:17.200 yeah okay do you think in like a battlefield situation that we should like be giving uh

06:31:22.320 uh estrogen hormones to male combatants male as in like trans men no male as in well transgender women

06:31:32.720 yeah i mean why not i think like are we going to stop people with mental health issues from being in

06:31:38.080 the military yes it is it is a mental health so so if the if the i guess the conservative position on

06:31:44.560 this is that they view this as a mental illness issue then the military frequently precludes people with

06:31:51.200 mental illness from being able to serve in the military okay and so and not only is it mental

06:31:56.640 illness but if it requires constant medication which comes at the expense of the military this has

06:32:02.480 this has nothing to do with making the military an effective offensive or defensive force well then i

06:32:09.200 guess if it's coming from that perspective it's like the medication thing then i guess so i could see

06:32:14.000 i could see that but it's just the other stuff of like oh well we're not going to recognize their

06:32:17.680 identity and stuff i don't think that's important at all what does it mean he's like there's only

06:32:22.000 going to be two genders recognized in this country like man and woman shelby says because yeah there is

06:32:28.800 and that's why a trans man is a man and a trans woman is a woman their gender reveal when they were

06:32:34.720 being born they were either a boy or a girl so do you think that when a woman transitions to be a man or

06:32:41.920 when a man transitions to be a woman she or he is completely equal to the sex that they have

06:32:48.400 transitioned to like do you think there's any distinguishable characteristics between a biological

06:32:53.680 female and a trans female or a biological male and a trans male sure there are some biological

06:32:59.680 differences but i think as long as like they're on the hormones and like um they're doing the surgeries

06:33:05.360 like over time um like are you talking about the physical strength thing like the worry about sports

06:33:10.400 and bathrooms and stuff yeah i mean there's just there's a whole bunch of things that men and

06:33:14.480 women are literally built differently like that there are things that you have as a female and a

06:33:20.160 male has that are different we are not born the same right but again like these people are taking

06:33:25.360 hormones that are suppressing like their physical strength and i mean when a trans woman loses a sport

06:33:32.080 oh we'll get more into that stuff a little bit later girl in chair three the only cage we really

06:33:38.160 need is a gibbet for you just put it in the public square and invite every mentally ill man that gave

06:33:44.560 you money to watch you suffer what is a gibbet i'm actually not sure what a gibbet is that is cool uh

06:33:50.560 here let's get through the rest of the tweets then we can come back to some of this convo go ahead

06:33:53.760 pull it up all right read it for us oh what did i say i've been on break for half of a month and i'm

06:34:01.520 still making four figures lol men will always be failures okay next

06:34:07.360 men are so dumb yikes next how does subs send me eight wait had a sub send me 8 000 oh it disappeared

06:34:16.400 oh here although men are too men are too dumb okay next

06:34:24.480 these subs are liars they may be submissive but they're still men yeah these that that that came

06:34:30.240 from like a lot of like these subs they'll like there's next next okay white men deserve to be

06:34:36.480 locked in cassidy forever it's not just men it's white man damn like as a mentally stable woman i would

06:34:44.800 never say anything like that so you're saying she's mentally unstable i mean say it say it with

06:34:50.000 your chest say with your chest go ahead shelby you got it off of do you need the squid you need

06:34:55.040 the squid to say it go ahead um get her the squid and some of the beliefs that you have it does lead

06:35:04.880 me to what's unstable about it it's like you have all these like bad connotations about men

06:35:16.800 and white men in particular have you never met like a good man like have you never met a man that

06:35:22.400 you're like oh he doesn't deserve to be in a cage i'd love to get to know you what about barack obama

06:35:28.560 does he belong in the cage joe but i think they all do i think even barack obama yes what about

06:35:34.640 um nelson mandela i don't know who that is i've heard that name before but i don't know who that

06:35:41.120 like what is he known for you don't know nelson mandela south africa okay are your tweets like

06:35:46.400 like to find like guys to like i was gonna ask like guys do you think mlk sorry yeah they find me

06:35:51.120 through my twitter okay yeah so that's that's what i was like kind of figuring because like guys that

06:35:54.480 want like like dominatrix they like see these tweets like oh yeah like she'll like put me in

06:35:58.960 my place like yeah i kind of figured to write to get like more it's marketing okay so you don't actually

06:36:05.840 no she means it so you definitely would you put gandhi in the cage who is gone i don't know these

06:36:11.520 people you're talking about i don't know who gandhi is um would you put i don't know um would you put

06:36:16.640 mlk in a cage oh definitely i think he was cheating on his wife yikes i guess that there is some truth

06:36:22.400 that he was probably i think that's the rumors anyways um malcolm x in the cage i don't know

06:36:29.040 much about him you just like probably sorry all right by the way jc says uh normally we don't do

06:36:35.200 tens but we the black community do not claim this woman she does not speak for us we are intelligent

06:36:40.800 i promise oh my god i'm tired next oh boy okay oh my goodness they keep coming

06:36:50.560 it's juneteenth white boy reparations are due get to sending to some black goddesses you know it's

06:36:56.320 actually funny i got like a thousand dollars from that tweet alone do you know what i feel like

06:37:02.320 oh boy would you be willing to pay me reparations for what for going through these suites uh no but

06:37:11.280 are you right-handed or left-handed i'm right-handed i'm left-handed and this is not has nothing to do

06:37:17.120 with race but i feel because i'm left-handed i am owed by the right-handed people because scissors

06:37:24.160 fuck me up uh desks the fucking the desks you know and like when you were a kid they had like

06:37:30.800 the little thing on the right side never on the left side for your arm uh ink bro if you write left

06:37:36.960 handed yeah with a pencil are you lefty too no but smeared i invested more in soap because of this okay

06:37:46.800 i'm the oppression of who here is right-handed raise your fucking hands you right-handed you're

06:37:51.840 left-handed i'm a lefty uh i want all of you to go into your purses right now and give me

06:37:58.080 she doesn't get anything but give me 10 bucks for the pain that i have been through

06:38:05.200 i'll cash also my vision's bad so who here has good vision uh i'm wearing glasses so i every

06:38:13.760 year i spend hundreds of dollars on new spectacles and contacts i think you guys need to pay me

06:38:20.800 reparations too seems like bad genetics you guys wow excuse you

06:38:25.200 okay that was cool all right thank you uh wait this is one of the most uh okay thank you thank you

06:38:36.800 jeff appreciate it uh thank you thank you for the uh message oh we have uh this oh okay

06:38:44.960 ha ha donated two hundred dollars wait what red shirt is a disgusting coward please who's a red shirt

06:38:51.280 k-y-e-s-s you have a fat racist baboon in front of you and all of you are too cowardly to say anything

06:38:57.120 pathetic wait what wait what is it me no i think i don't know i'm a little confused ha ha ha red shirt

06:39:04.400 is disgusting is he confusing me and her am i the because i'm the only fat person here so am i

06:39:11.840 am i the fat racist baboon okay why i'm so lost everybody here is pretty trim so i mean i don't

06:39:20.480 know who they're talking about but all right thank you man appreciate it all right let there how many

06:39:24.560 more let's get to the rest pull it up read it wow another i hate men classic that's just wow oh my god

06:39:32.480 uh next

06:39:39.600 just turned just turned an alpha man into a simp i love being hot i mean hold on what

06:39:48.960 shut the hell up normalize putting men in cages and leaving them there to ride

06:39:54.320 and then the poke with the stick every now and then i love that response

06:40:03.440 no one looked directly after next oh my god all you pathetic white beta cucks should be begging to

06:40:12.240 serve as my lifelong bitch and atm that's all you are and will ever be damn

06:40:20.320 yeah i mean

06:40:26.800 next oh my god can i say that word yeah you can say it's fun such a tiny penis makes

06:40:33.280 you such a worthless man the hottest thing you can do is open up your wallet and shut the fuck up

06:40:39.280 yeah next oh my bad

06:40:42.160 you should know that your place as a man is to open that fucking wallet and shut the fuck up

06:40:54.240 i'm just so iconic like looking back at these it's like

06:40:58.720 you know this ass makes you weak white boy

06:41:00.640 you know what fuck it scroll down no don't do that wait did she wait check check it first make sure

06:41:09.440 it's okay is it is she wearing clothes no i'm not naked all right fuck it i was in the gym

06:41:16.240 wait no no no you can hide us

06:41:17.920 i mean shut the hell up y'all y'all be dealing with the flattest asses hold on as a pale white guy

06:41:32.880 whatever dude that's not even my best photo i could wait you know what after seeing that photo

06:41:38.320 i think any guy who's attracted to your phenotype is a pdf file

06:41:43.360 i don't think you i don't think you got enough i look like a child i don't think you have enough

06:41:50.160 therefore phenotype i don't have enough woman grown woman booty there's just not enough there i'm

06:41:57.280 sorry my dear i'm sorry yeah i'm working on it that's why i was in the gym i'm working on it okay

06:42:03.360 good talk next is there are my goodness shows uh shows juneteenth is coming soon and you white

06:42:11.520 boys have some reparations to pay handed over loser yeah that's fucked up okay next

06:42:20.000 okay i love being a home-wrecking bratty dommy making old men spend send me money and think

06:42:28.320 about me all night while they laid next to their sleeping wives it's so hot

06:42:33.360 wait tilt your mic down a little bit um wait so you're you you like uh enjoy the whole ruining

06:42:41.680 marriages thing i don't ruin any marriages i just think it's funny you think it's funny to

06:42:47.280 ruin marriages didn't you say that men deserve being put into a chastity belt because they cheat

06:42:53.280 yeah and yeah but it's not my responsibility as a stranger to make sure that they don't cheat

06:42:58.720 that's great you know all right is there any more that's their own choice that's it that's it oh my

06:43:04.400 i don't know it's hard to handle all that racism and sexism um do the girls here have any do the any

06:43:14.240 of the girls want to rebuke her we need saving somebody needs to come to our defense all right any

06:43:20.000 girls here are gonna rebuke this yeah i i think there's probably a lot of generalization and then

06:43:27.520 maybe i don't think you should ever talk about anyone's race or even like i just i just believe

06:43:36.800 if you're gonna you should respect everyone and like whether they're men i do respect everyone i'm

06:43:42.480 not racist it's just it's just telling people they should be locked up in cages and poked with a

06:43:48.080 stick it doesn't really sound like respect i feel like you don't really believe they don't deserve

06:43:53.440 respect that's what they like it's crazy bro it's crazy bro let me uh let me shout out let me see if

06:44:01.120 anybody has actually i mean like they're funny if it's like a joke but i don't even it's just a kink

06:44:08.080 it's just a sexual domination kink that's all uh guys if you want to do a contribution then

06:44:12.160 no cash app whatever pod i'll give you guys a shout out we just have ian who sent in 10 via venmo

06:44:17.520 and then we have thank you so much man and then we had um it was wait it was uh chris

06:44:26.080 chris with the uh 15 on cash app thank you guys so much w's in the chat for them uh okay so uh we have

06:44:32.800 a chat here from lucas

06:44:35.280 phinny hate to burst your female supremacy bubble but your supremacy

06:44:42.960 redounds to nothing more than being an incubator covered by protoplasm big words here unfortunately

06:44:48.640 you don't come with a mute button can i respond yeah so i know and i understand that you are

06:44:58.720 a loser with a pot belly and a receding hairline living in your mother's basement making 30k a year

06:45:04.720 but sending half of your weekly income to a podcast to talk to a girl who's getting money because you're

06:45:10.720 a hater will not make you a high value man please go spend that money on a on a decent date to applebee's

06:45:17.360 like you can afford on a girl and maybe then you'll stop being so bitter okay yeah did somebody pee at

06:45:24.080 the table it smells like piss did somebody do the doors open it's i think it's coming outside are you

06:45:31.840 trying to get the attention off of you did you pee no the bathroom does kind of smell i think i'm

06:45:38.160 starting to smell it but it's coming from that who did it who did it wait hey damien can you close

06:45:45.360 the bathroom door man that's crazy damn somebody strong enough no i think he's been eating their

06:45:52.000 asparagus who had asparagus somebody got some fox urine or some shit i don't know that's crazy yo luke

06:45:57.760 thank you for that lucas excuse me thank you man do appreciate it uh let's see here and then uh

06:46:03.440 okay well that's that's pretty much it for all the notes here's what we're gonna do um yeah just

06:46:08.640 a few more a few more things to get through who's willing to take off their makeup

06:46:14.000 mikaela you do it sounds nice by now

06:46:18.080 you don't want to does two dollar bill but y'all didn't have a dollar bill

06:46:25.280 i'll wipe my face to prove i've been up since 4 a.m just so you know have makeup on

06:46:29.760 all right i like gary who who will take it off will you take it off you said wait you said you

06:46:35.200 would take it off i did say you said you would take it off no anisa hey come on anisa come on

06:46:41.440 it was like four other girls that said they'll take their makeup off

06:46:47.120 what's the point of this it's to um go to bed from the makeup go ahead bella take it go ahead

06:46:54.320 go for it i don't have to wash my face when i get home

06:46:59.680 anybody else anybody mikayla no the i just don't want to do it because then i have to like i have

06:47:07.600 to wash my face off immediately after i have that stuff on on it those makeup wipes have so much oil

06:47:13.680 in them yeah those are off of the line this is the second time the best only the best for my girls

06:47:21.120 i get you neutrogena you want some like off-brand like cvs no i get you neutrogena okay well i

06:47:30.480 appreciate the thought i'm a gentleman um all right here we're going to do a few things from the

06:47:35.920 questionnaires we're not going to do everything just because it's already late um is it didn't

06:47:41.200 notice yeah so funny wait were there other reacts damien or i don't think so i don't think there's

06:47:50.960 any other reacts um all right here we'll do this uh let's see one sec guys any any final thoughts

06:48:01.280 from any of the panelists here before we get into a few other things and then wrap up the show

06:48:04.880 i just wanted to say since i used to do fandom too uh-oh you still do it why don't you do it

06:48:14.160 anymore you still do it it is a lot of work isn't it that's why i've been kind of like and he said

06:48:20.000 they're top of the line they are top of the line it's not really about trying to be racist um it's

06:48:27.520 just the white men typically like being called for being white men like the the people that are

06:48:33.520 she's attracting they thrive on the fact that they're being called white men right it's like

06:48:39.200 a kink to them exactly yeah i've never met a white guy a little weird but it's a little weird but like

06:48:44.080 it's not her take the fakes off too or are those like glued on fur they're glued on okay it doesn't

06:48:49.440 matter are you gonna take your makeup off no i'm leaving all my makeup on uh that beard let's see

06:48:55.760 uh okay let's get into it would you rather cross paths with the men or a bear in the forest

06:48:59.760 bear bear wait let's start with michaela i would definitely rather cross paths with a man okay

06:49:07.280 i said bear uh just scoot your mic a little closer to you okay what about you man oh wow that's

06:49:13.280 surprising okay i can fight a bear a bear a bear bear a man a bear a bear i've actually had that happen

06:49:23.200 oh boy okay and then what about you samson man man okay a lot of bears here why do you uh why

06:49:31.360 really quickly we won't linger too long on it why do you pick bear because i could eat a bear

06:49:35.920 starting with uh bella i feel like with a bear i would just get killed but with the man i would

06:49:41.680 hardwood south creek mm-hmm next shelby um i picked the bear because it's just their natural

06:49:49.680 instinct and they don't really know that they're doing anything wrong whereas a man

06:49:55.360 obviously knows what they're doing and they can torture you longer and i would i wouldn't feel as

06:50:01.920 like victimized by a bear wow okay uh who else um a bear just like you guys said like it's natural

06:50:13.200 instincts he crossed paths with a man what was it in a forest like what is he doing in a forest you

06:50:17.920 don't know his intentions he's hiking you're you're probably what if it's like a we didn't specify

06:50:24.480 if it's like like a hiker i think i think it's like a hike you're you're in the forest i'm still

06:50:30.320 gonna cross paths with a bear okay why do you pick bear um because i figure out i think i'll be able to

06:50:39.280 figure out a way to kill a bear and then i could use i could eat it to me use its fur to keep warm

06:50:43.600 how are you gonna kill the bear i don't know but i'll figure it out even guns don't kill bears

06:50:50.000 like you need a certain caliber to kill a bear or just wait till it dies or i don't know i'll figure

06:50:55.760 it out i'm not disagreeing because i also chose bear but okay it's more useful um i have i've come

06:51:02.560 across a bear twice backpacking because that's like one of my favorite things to do is backpack and i go by

06:51:07.840 myself and one time the bear literally just saw me and kept walking uh the other time i was asleep

06:51:14.720 and it came across my tent and literally sniffed me and kept walking but i have had men follow me

06:51:20.240 into the wilderness when i've been on like 60 mile backpacking trips and that is absolutely terrifying

06:51:26.160 like one time i literally had a family that i saw as i was going around the prescott circuit loop

06:51:32.400 because i used to live in arizona and i had to get a ride back with them to my car because there

06:51:37.840 was a man following me for 10 miles and he thought i didn't see him but he was behind me so i'd rather

06:51:43.840 be with the bear in that situation yeah but how many men have you walked past that did absolutely

06:51:49.360 nothing to you that's fair i mean is the you know bears sometimes don't they're sometimes they're not

06:51:53.760 bothered by you and if it's you know an aggressive bear or an aggressive man i still would rather be

06:52:00.560 around an aggressive bear because a man will sexually assault you before you die versus a

06:52:06.080 bear will kill you so i'd rather be killed than sexually assaulted and then killed uh but i mean

06:52:12.240 you have significantly more data points when it comes to interactions with men uh yeah sure there are

06:52:18.400 bad men out there and maybe they've uh and they've done bad things to you or you know you've had

06:52:25.120 uncomfortable or awful experiences with men i don't doubt this at all uh but you also have like data

06:52:30.160 points of like men who you're just walk past the street that's true don't even look at you don't

06:52:34.720 care whatsoever if they're following you've probably passed tens of thousands maybe hundreds of thousands

06:52:39.520 of men in your entire life didn't do a single thing to you but it's basically my understanding

06:52:44.720 is while you're you either you have experiences or maybe you've on top of that you've heard experiences

06:52:50.400 of other women who've had bad experiences with men and because of this there's like some you

06:52:55.840 your concern as well the guy could essay me essentially uh so on that note what is what

06:53:01.360 percentage of men then because you're doing a risk assessment you're thinking well the man could do

06:53:06.160 nothing the bear could do nothing the bear could kill me the man could kill me the man could essay me

06:53:10.720 what percentage of men do you think would uh be inclined to uh essay a woman in this situation

06:53:16.880 like a woman alone in the in the woods yeah what percentage of men i don't know if you it doesn't

06:53:27.120 have to be precise it could be you could say 50 60 30 10 what do you think i i really can't answer

06:53:35.600 that question i don't know i don't know i think if they were following me then that's obviously a

06:53:39.760 different scenario if you're just saying a random man or a bear i would pick like the man if he's not

06:53:46.480 following me but if they're following me that's okay look here's the scenario okay you spawn into

06:53:51.120 a forest randomly okay then you have two buttons that are presented to you you can spawn in a random

06:53:57.040 man from the entire u.s population or a random bear okay yeah man then man but if yeah that's different

06:54:04.560 that's not how i understood the question that's fine yeah uh we got you you said bear what do you i mean

06:54:10.480 so you all of you who say bear i'm assuming there's some component of fear when it comes to essay what

06:54:15.280 percentage of men uh do you think would essay you or be inclined to essay i guess maybe like 50

06:54:21.760 percent half okay what about you 50 into the mic just closer 50 50 i'd say like 60 60 30 30 okay

06:54:31.840 so wait 50 50 60 30 oh well you said man but i mean no no no i'm like what was the question the

06:54:39.760 question was would be inclined to ask yeah what percentage of men in the entire population of

06:54:44.320 the united states would uh you think if given this opportunity would essay you

06:54:52.640 i mean i answered bear but you still want i mean man do you still want to answer i mean if you want

06:54:55.920 it sounded like you wanted to answer like one percent maybe one percent okay

06:55:00.240 sure 89 89 huh 89 i do i think you think it's so you but you pick if you think that you pick man

06:55:10.960 you said you picked man right well bear will kill you you're talking about just um essay yeah oh

06:55:18.800 that's a difference 89 wow um okay so uh 89 50 50 60 30 uh let's i guess start with those um do you have

06:55:31.280 brothers one one brother you have cousin male cousins sisters um one two you have a dad no no dad passed

06:55:40.480 away i just no dad okay uh grandparents no um yeah grandpa okay grandpa you have brothers how many

06:55:49.280 brothers one one you have a dad yeah grandparents uh male cousins yeah four brothers four brothers

06:55:58.160 you got a dad yeah grandparents yeah male cousins yeah brothers father grandparent okay uh do you have male

06:56:09.920 friends okay what about you and dad brothers no father yeah male friends cousins yeah grandparents okay

06:56:21.840 uh so you said you had four brothers was it and sorry did you say you had one brother yeah so there's

06:56:27.520 like a 50 chance your brother's an essay-er and then two of your brothers are essay-ers

06:56:32.640 no no i'm not saying they are well you said 50 percent of men this would include your immediate

06:56:40.480 family true so i want you to look into i'm not look into this camera right here and you don't have to

06:56:47.280 say their name but be like hey my i don't know maybe you don't know which of the two brothers are

06:56:52.560 essay-ers but tell your brothers that they're essay-ers no but oh so your family is just different

06:56:59.760 no i'm not saying they're different but i'm not gonna say that either what the hell but why not

06:57:06.320 i mean your own statistics would indicate that they could two of your 50 percent that blood brothers

06:57:12.320 are essay-ers they could probably be the 50 percent that's not shelby you said you had male friends 50

06:57:17.520 60 of them are essay-ers all the men you know 60 of them essay-ers but that's because like

06:57:24.560 like i don't hang around people that would like do things like that so it like skews you know i mean

06:57:36.800 i don't but okay all right 30 of your all your uh male relatives are essay-ers if given the chance

06:57:45.920 i look into this camera and say hi family i'll see you at the family reunion 30 of you men are essay-ers

06:57:54.560 say it into the camera i'm not saying that i'm just saying if they were given the chance no

06:57:58.240 repercussions they would 33 wow okay change the whole culture of the world and then just be

06:58:07.760 and then you 89 of your male um not my family of the world like it was allowed

06:58:13.120 the whole world all right i don't know that's kind of crazy but um

06:58:19.200 pretty wild uh okay well uh all right let's see here a couple more notes um while i'm just looking

06:58:28.640 at these any thoughts from anybody any final topics you guys want to hit on we're gonna wrap here very

06:58:33.440 soon this is making me sad very sad well just the how incredibly i don't know you guys are so down on

06:58:46.800 men i mean you guys have had bad situations i mean 50 of men you think would essay you if they got the

06:58:57.440 chance that's that's an incredible incredible statistic i can confidently say and i don't know

06:59:03.760 any of these girls that they have all had at least one experience and that's like bare minimum of

06:59:10.480 feeling assaulted at one point in their life that is so and that's it's so terrible yeah which i totally

06:59:17.360 agree with but just consider the amount of people of men that you've had good interactions with

06:59:25.760 like verbally assaulted like every single day really yeah today how do you get what happened

06:59:30.640 like at work tell me what happened today i work at like a coffee shop and like literally an older

06:59:38.000 man with his family was like i can't remember the verbiage but he's like i'm trying to think of a way

06:59:45.600 to assault this girl or harass this girl he said harass this today yes he said i'm thinking of

06:59:51.600 away at work today with he said he was with his family yeah like it happens like way more than

07:00:00.240 y'all think because you guys don't experience it through our eyes and like being a girl you don't

07:00:06.160 experience but how many good interactions do you have with a man on every single day no it does because

07:00:11.680 it's percentages it's like if you're taking the negative the negative things you have to take the

07:00:17.120 positive ones into account as well you know that's like that's like me getting whatever

07:00:23.200 hurt by my guys say things guys like they'll look at you and you don't even know what's going through

07:00:30.240 their minds the culture is surrounding sex right like that's what we were talking about earlier with

07:00:41.120 hookup culture so it's fair to say that like these frustrated men are assaulting women like they're

07:00:48.560 there there are a lot of cases of assault and if not if not reported well you know sometimes it's

07:00:54.400 like you feel vulnerable you feel like you can't report it because how was i weak enough to let this

07:00:58.480 happen to me like you start to question your own worth when you're in a position like that and you know

07:01:03.600 maybe it's not 50 maybe it's only 20 but when you don't report it then they they'll do it to the next

07:01:10.240 person as well and a lot of times it's within relationships so you're saying that not reporting

07:01:14.560 it is the problem no no no i'm not well it sounds like that's a really big part of the problem it's

07:01:19.360 very difficult to report something like that i mean have you been sexually assaulted well i mean the

07:01:24.960 problem needs to be fixed right so if the problem is going to be fixed i don't think the answer is

07:01:29.600 chastity belts yeah i don't think the answer is that either i think the answer is self-control and

07:01:35.280 seeing human beings as things that are worthy of respect not assaulting them i think that's the

07:01:41.360 answer well i would just ask for a little bit lower of a percentage because that is even on dating

07:01:48.080 pretty insulting like dating apps like the first like thing a lot of guys will say is just something

07:01:52.880 lustful well i mean you are yeah you're engaging with hookup culture you're in a position where you're

07:02:00.160 putting yourself out there i mean most women that i know on tinder most men that i know on tinder as

07:02:05.920 well like are very much on there to engage in hookup culture tinder though hold on the internet is like

07:02:13.280 both men and women receive all kinds of like ridiculous stuff on the internet your your complaint

07:02:19.120 here has shifted from like an actual crime to a man saying like an inappropriate perhaps sexual

07:02:26.080 statement on a dating app like grow some thicker skin yeah guys shouldn't be doing that but like

07:02:32.240 a guy's like oh nice titties on a dating app bro grow thicker skin i mean i got my first gun at 18 my

07:02:40.560 first pistol i was gifted it because of men because my parents were worried about the hobbies that i have

07:02:47.360 and me encountering a man you know doing one of those things whether it was you know going on a dirt

07:02:53.680 biking trip and them seeing that i was alone and them you know trying to come after me there or

07:02:59.360 whether it was backpacking and somebody you know trying to stalk me like i had happen so you know

07:03:05.440 there there is something that's not talked about there i'm not saying that men are innately horrible

07:03:09.840 i'm not saying that men you know innately want to sexually assault women and i do think there are a

07:03:14.400 lot of great men out there however there's something that's not really spoken about most women i mean i i

07:03:20.640 don't know the statistic but a lot of these women have have been assaulted and and if yeah well hold

07:03:26.320 on i want to challenge this this assault thing because there's all these surveys that are out

07:03:31.120 there rain publishes it these other places publish it and if you actually i i've actually investigated

07:03:36.800 these surveys that they do now we can go off like fbi and doj statistics when it comes to violent crime

07:03:43.680 because that's what you say well there's they don't report how else can we make a determination

07:03:48.400 as to what actually has happened and what doesn't unless we're looking at crime statistics but if

07:03:53.040 we're looking at surveys which are dubious at best and these mind you these surveys have significant

07:04:00.400 bias and a lot of these surveys one there's self-selection people are like oh i want to answer

07:04:05.040 this i don't um if you actually look at the content of it what they include there's like different levels

07:04:12.000 of what they'll consider assault okay and in the surveys they'll ask women questions like

07:04:16.880 have you ever been cat called i don't think cat calling is appropriate i don't think you have

07:04:23.520 been sexually assaulted if a guy said an inappropriate thing to you in the street i don't think men should

07:04:29.120 do it i think it's wrong but they include that in the statistics to try to forward a narrative

07:04:36.640 and pad the numbers to make it to create this sort of fear dynamic in women that this is something that

07:04:43.040 is far more common than it actually is it's i think it's insulting to women who are actually victims

07:04:49.520 of awful crimes uh but to include things like cat calling or inappropriate jokes or um a guy i read one of

07:05:01.520 these uh if your boyfriend wants to break up with you because you no longer have sex with him that's sexual coercion

07:05:09.040 i'm sorry if whether you're a man or a woman if your partner no longer wants to have sex with you

07:05:14.560 if you're a woman you can dump the guy if you're a man you can dump the woman that's not a sex crime

07:05:19.360 that's not sexual assault that's not sexual coercion that's just a fair expectation to have in a

07:05:24.400 relationship but because these feminist institutions want to pad their position they're going to include

07:05:31.520 cat calling and um inappropriate jokes and a boyfriend who breaks up with his girlfriend or

07:05:39.120 maybe says he wants to break up with her because they're not having sex anymore okay i never argued

07:05:45.120 a statistic because i don't know any of the statistics and so what i'm saying here is actual sexual assault

07:05:50.880 that's sexual harassment there's a clear line with that even in the work but they include that in the

07:05:55.280 sexual assault statistics that's yeah i understand that and you know that's definitely worked then

07:06:00.000 because women do have a sense of fear around men like you do not want to be the only woman in a room

07:06:06.080 of 20 guys it's it's but if you're gonna throw out a statistic and say no no i'm saying i'm saying all of

07:06:12.480 you guys saying your statistic no no no sorry i'm talking to the 50 percenters the 60 percenters and you

07:06:19.360 guys if you choose to be out in the wilderness with a bear instead of a man you have to understand like

07:06:26.240 you have to look into that camera and say that the men in your lives your family your dads your brothers

07:06:33.280 like they are included in that statistic that you think like i know your experiences may have been

07:06:40.800 terrible but at the same time you have to include them in there and like most of you guys said you won't

07:06:47.680 because that's not an accurate representation of the actual percentage i think you guys have a lot more

07:06:54.160 faith in men than you actually think you do but that those those statistics don't reflect that

07:07:01.120 at all here how about this though um why don't we just go ahead and grant it like that that uh you

07:07:07.520 know maybe the rates are this high is it you or me bro what do you mean 50 it's 50 it's you or me

07:07:15.680 i guess like here's the objection here is like you i'll go ahead and grant you guys have all had

07:07:22.080 terrible experiences with men maybe even to the point of like a crime you know crimes have been

07:07:26.480 committed um and that's terrible and awful and i hope that that person gets his justice or karma or

07:07:34.400 whatever um but i guess it's like you did have a bad experience with a man and then now you think all men

07:07:44.320 that now i wonder though is this sexist and i want to change change the bear question a little bit so

07:07:52.880 let's say there's a white person who either themselves or has known people who have been

07:07:58.080 assaulted by a black person they also see news stories and belong to online groups and their tick

07:08:04.000 talk algorithm feeds feeds them stories about black on white crime much like as a woman if you engage

07:08:10.800 on tick tock with certain stuff that relates to sa the algorithm is going to feed you more of that

07:08:16.160 because of their safety concerns they're scared of black people they believe all black people have

07:08:21.520 the capacity for violence or assault of some kind would this person be racist

07:08:30.960 yes so then if women have a fear of all men because of one two three or hearing other people's

07:08:39.360 poor experiences with men would this make you guys sexist towards men that's completely different

07:08:44.960 how is it different how is it different if you're if if you you know are not able to see the good in

07:08:53.360 any man because of those experiences then that is you being sexist i mean i personally have gone

07:08:59.360 through things that i would rather not discuss and i still have a loving boyfriend that i plan to marry

07:09:04.000 like i still love my dad very deeply i still have friends that i care very deeply about i have my

07:09:09.120 brother that i love you know i i don't go around assuming every man is going to do that but i i do

07:09:15.360 have to be hyper vigilant of certain behaviors that could lead to that and having first-hand experience

07:09:21.760 it's like you're aware and you start to recognize patterns and you know the sad truth is is that

07:09:27.360 there's there's a lot of of men that that they exhibit those patterns and you notice it and you you

07:09:34.960 have to take a step back now okay that's fine is it sexist though that to from for me to is it sexist

07:09:40.640 against men for me to recognize patterns and basis base my you would rather be in the forest with a

07:09:47.600 wild animal i i i've changed my point when you clarified it when you clarified can we hear from

07:09:52.480 somebody with a like that actually gave a statistic like the 50 50 percent like what do you think of his

07:09:58.080 point that he made like is that is that sexist of women to think that way um wait can you repeat the

07:10:07.440 question it it it has to be sexist it has to be sexist there's no way around it well sexist is the

07:10:14.560 idea of like hating one gender so just because like we well it could be like you have a bias or like a

07:10:20.240 prejudice so like for example if you think all uh if i thought all latino people were criminals would this

07:10:27.440 be racist i don't think all men are like bad or anything but no but if you think like all men or

07:10:32.640 like a high proportion of men have a propensity towards being criminals aka essayers if essaying or

07:10:41.520 whatever wasn't involved if it was just like being able to get murdered that's what's like different

07:10:49.360 it's the essaying part that differentiates the racism and the sexism wait i'm sorry in his

07:10:56.880 example he was talking about like black people if you're constantly fed this influx of content

07:11:02.720 that's making you think that black people commit a lot of crime and so then you become scared of

07:11:08.000 black people we asked you do you think that's racist she said yes so then the the alternative

07:11:13.760 would it would also be sexist if you have these experiences to automatically be applying

07:11:19.600 yours experiences in your situation to the majority of men that would be sexist

07:11:24.560 but i'm saying when you and put in the factor of being essayed into it that like just changes the

07:11:32.080 whole dynamic i think it's like an exaggerated why does it change the dynamic not necessarily sexist

07:11:36.720 because it's it's violence against other people i don't understand though like what

07:11:41.760 so is your position like and maybe it is essay worse than murder no but i'm saying that

07:11:48.960 women i agree with you that essay is different than murder we both have the same chance of being

07:11:56.000 murdered technically but no we don't women have no we don't no no no no hold on no we don't

07:12:00.240 men are like men are much more likely to be murdered much more likely but i mean like the act of it like

07:12:06.400 if someone came into a room and just like shot like we both have like the same chance of getting shot

07:12:12.080 like just theoretically but like men have less chance of being essayed than women sure i think

07:12:21.680 that what's your point it aren't men more essayed because of prisons well i mean i don't need to get

07:12:27.360 it i mean there's here's the thing if you look at the actual like the definition of grape would actually

07:12:33.360 preclude it from ever being considered something that can happen to men oh now if you include like

07:12:38.480 made made to penetrate uh then perhaps those numbers even up but then like uh like so men

07:12:46.480 on man on man essay where the man can be penetrated if you're super anti-essay you should be outside of

07:12:52.240 prison yes it happens more to women what's your point that you guys don't experience or understand

07:12:58.880 what it like what we feel because it technically like so you're saying men can't be essayed no like

07:13:06.000 a man could be essayed by imagine imagine no and like the whole you guys you said you guys are

07:13:11.360 stronger than us do you want to know something that's funny is i get i get all of the exact type

07:13:17.200 of cat calls that you guys get from men from men as well in fact like because of my following on

07:13:24.320 youtube like i get i get a very very similar amount in a situation of getting essayed you'd have a better

07:13:30.240 chance of being able to not because you have the same physical strength as the other man yeah so

07:13:36.640 i'm so we're already at a disadvantage i'm happy to just go ahead and grant your position uh essay is

07:13:43.040 a bigger concern for women than it is for men what i agree but you do have to the the statement is is it

07:13:52.080 sexist to have this like general fear or bias of all men or like this hesitancy towards all men

07:14:01.200 so i i definitely felt like i became sexist after what had happened for a little bit i was afraid of

07:14:07.120 men but you have to work through it it's just like if you're a little kid right and you don't understand

07:14:11.360 depth yet and you walk onto a cliff and you fall right let's say the cliff's not that high right it's

07:14:16.400 like five feet and you hurt yourself okay so after that you understand cliff equals fall so you have to

07:14:22.800 change that in your brain to understand that man does not mean hurt like man does not mean you know

07:14:29.040 danger now that's something that takes a lot of work you're literally training yourself because

07:14:32.960 that's a stimulus sure you you've had the stimulus you see the cause and effect and so you create

07:14:38.080 a perception based off of that you create a mental set a data set around men based off of that

07:14:42.640 so you have to then retrain yourself to trust men again and that's you know if you don't then yes

07:14:49.440 you said yes you said yes it does make me i'm trying to i'm trying to like help people understand

07:14:55.040 how the other women are thinking the way that they are if you haven't trained yourself to rewire that so

07:15:01.920 you're not afraid of men anymore you're still gonna have that fear like like we said earlier when i was

07:15:07.680 like okay a man following me or a bear following me i would rather have the bear because i'd get killed

07:15:11.920 rather than assaulted and then killed like that is a fear that is in your head but you have to learn

07:15:16.960 how to rewire it okay it's do you think it's sexist

07:15:22.400 okay what i wanted to comment on is i think that black men being considered quote-unquote

07:15:27.600 violent has nothing to do with the race and more of the environment

07:15:30.240 or false wait what like going back to the whole like racism part uh-huh and so

07:15:40.720 what do you mean the environment like how do you explain it hold on how about this um would you like

07:15:48.080 if you guys saw a group of men coming at you and you're walking alone it was late at night or whatever

07:15:53.360 would you cross the street yeah okay now do you think that's sexist to do that i feel like in

07:16:00.240 order for it to be sexist it has to be irrational i don't think it's irrational to it's like okay if

07:16:05.280 you see a group of black women walking towards you i wouldn't really necessarily feel inclined to

07:16:10.080 cross the street if i saw a group of black men walking towards me yeah so it has nothing to do with

07:16:14.000 race but if a certain population commits a certain percentage of the crime does that make you racist

07:16:24.720 for avoiding them more no not in the situation of crossing the street but so but the the scenario

07:16:34.960 would just simply be if it if it's not here if it's racist to cross the street if you see a group of

07:16:43.600 latino people or black people or whatever racial group if that's if that would be racist to do

07:16:51.520 then it would have to also be sexist if you cross the street because you saw a group of men

07:16:56.880 regardless it doesn't matter what the race i wouldn't cross the street but depending on

07:17:00.640 their survival it's depending on if it's yeah but okay what if somebody did cross the street because

07:17:05.920 they saw a group of black people it wouldn't matter what that's right then that can be racist okay

07:17:11.440 then it would have to it would have to be sexist to cross the street if you saw a group of men

07:17:15.120 okay so if you saw a group of men it could be latino it could be it could be latino it could be

07:17:22.000 any race i'm just using okay so at night is say if you saw a group of men at night and you're alone

07:17:28.800 will you cross the street or you're just gonna walk like normal like a group of men at night

07:17:34.960 mm-hmm you wouldn't think twice would i do it um that's a good question uh huh were you sexist

07:17:44.560 but i said

07:17:47.760 she got out there more scared to come across a group of men

07:17:51.440 no but i want the thing is is i want you guys honestly if it was a group of white dudes i would not

07:17:59.440 care at all because there are specific people that commit a certain amount of the crime and

07:18:11.520 there's a certain gender that also commits a certain amount of the crime yeah but even like with that

07:18:16.720 statistic there's a certain group of people like most of those people that you're talking about are men

07:18:22.560 when it comes to crime everything yeah you're talking about oh how black people commit you're

07:18:26.160 talking about black people committing 50 of the crime or something well that's the original yeah

07:18:29.840 that's the original thing that we were using if somebody is constantly portrayed to them like hey

07:18:34.960 like a certain number or a certain group of people is committing most of the crime and then you're just fed

07:18:42.000 that information over and over again just like somebody who gets essayed they're fed over and over

07:18:47.920 again like this be wary of men be careful around men like ultimately i don't think that it would make

07:18:55.040 you racist i don't think it would make you sexist like in either of those scenarios i don't so you

07:19:00.720 don't think it would be racist across the street because there's a group of black people walking

07:19:04.560 towards you at night do i think that it would be racist for me to walk across the street no i do not

07:19:12.240 think i do have to move things on here to try to just get this uh we got drag drag issues chair three

07:19:18.720 you're out here selling overpriced self-esteem issues to the world's weakest men acting like it's some grand

07:19:23.840 revolution take a bow you're the mlm scam of modern dating please get back to your mother's basement

07:19:29.920 i really don't care so funny these men sitting half of their weekly income like to talk to me like

07:19:38.960 please go and spend it on a woman get some coochie stop being mad uh let's see here just a couple

07:19:44.160 things here i won't hit everything uh we have uh where did it go uh anisa so the statement is

07:19:52.880 acceptable to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans to which you disagreed with

07:20:00.080 um yeah like i agreed that it's okay to refuse that you disagreed that it's okay to refuse

07:20:07.440 yeah so the statement oh no that's not what i mean oh you got mixed up that's my bad that's

07:20:12.000 fine the other way around that's fine i was so we were having a thing a back and forth though

07:20:16.800 really quick on the trans thing we'll wrap that up super quick do one two or three more and then

07:20:20.720 we're going to wrap the show um so what was your position again on the whole like trans stuff um yeah i

07:20:28.640 i used to be transphobic but i think trans women are women wait and she used to be she can you say

07:20:35.040 that again yeah i used to be transphobic i used to be like everyone else oh what about the bathrooms

07:20:39.200 like no okay then you're not scared of men coming into the women's bathrooms men as in trans women

07:20:47.600 yeah this goes back to the bear thing like yeah this is all oh you'd rather pick a bear first of all

07:20:52.800 i don't but you'd rather be in a bathroom with a controversial opinion bathrooms being segregated is

07:20:58.080 stupid bathrooms shouldn't be segregated bathrooms shouldn't be segregated

07:21:02.400 i don't know y'all y'all pee all over the and that's that's that's the main reason why

07:21:08.000 bathrooms are segregated because men are disgusted by women's periods and women leave the bathroom

07:21:12.640 disgusting i'm not really interested in the bathroom conversation but let's get into like the the the

07:21:16.560 like actual crux of the conversation so um our train your position is transgender women are women

07:21:24.240 are transgender women female no no okay because female would be sex

07:21:30.480 oh okay and i don't really have much to argue with really oh because we're getting into all the

07:21:36.880 trump but you you differentiate obviously between sex and gender yeah okay and you're fine though if

07:21:43.040 like i i think here you didn't say anything about not straight fermented it no you're fine with uh

07:21:50.320 so you think uh a man dating a trans woman is uh that wouldn't be straight no okay all right well

07:21:56.720 that would be pansexual okay we didn't talk about plastic surgery at all do you want to touch on that

07:22:03.600 i think didn't we we talked like two minutes uh let's see here we got a couple of oops my bad

07:22:12.720 um i don't know most of you just agree with everything you guys are all super based uh day uh

07:22:20.000 says except for you oh wait maybe you x this out you can be sexist towards men but no i think you can

07:22:25.840 be sexist towards men oh okay never mind then uh wow that's what i just said uh samson with so the

07:22:31.600 statement women have equal rights to men in the usa you disagree do you want to elaborate on that um

07:22:37.920 i thought i we do have equal rights in the usa it's in the workforce i think oh like wage gap oh no i

07:22:44.160 don't know i don't know what did i also mecca you disagree women you disagree that women have equal

07:22:48.080 rights in the usa oh my god um yeah i disagree because um like like right now like for example

07:22:56.640 donald trump he's trying to like uh ban abortion stuff like if it was equal he would like let a woman

07:23:01.200 choose what to do with her own body like that's not like for a man to decide so if it was equal

07:23:06.160 like it would just be like okay it's her choice you know well i'm not sure though if wouldn't if it was

07:23:13.600 equal if he actually wanted to make it equal between men and women wouldn't it require that

07:23:19.440 there just be an outright 100 abortion ban because like men can't get abortions they can't compel women

07:23:27.600 to get abortions they can't have kids they can't right but like if if we're talking about equality

07:23:32.800 typically we're talking about equal rights we're talking about doing a comparison between a right

07:23:37.440 that a man has versus a right that a woman doesn't have men have no reproductive rights so the

07:23:42.960 actual equality between men and women if that's what we're talking about would dictate that women

07:23:48.240 can't get abortions period at all we could say you know if you think if you think it's a right uh

07:23:59.520 a women's rights issue i think that's perhaps different but equal rights pertain equal rights to

07:24:05.760 men pertains to comparisons between men and women okay then like women's rights then oh but then that's

07:24:11.760 a separate conversation i'm just thinking equality between men and women men don't have reproductive

07:24:17.120 rights so what could be equal an alternative form of equality if women can have abortions uh if the

07:24:24.800 woman wants to keep the child the man can say well i'm going to do uh it's called legal paternal surrender

07:24:30.480 i don't have to be responsible i don't have to pay you child support i can just revoke my uh

07:24:36.240 uh financial obligations that would be a form of equality at least as close as you can get to

07:24:42.640 equality if women have abortion rights would you be in favor of that um of them like yeah so like

07:24:50.320 let's say let's say uh abortion rights are protected but in order to get that men which it's not the case

07:24:57.600 but men can say well um like let's say there's a one night stand the girl gets pregnant she wants to

07:25:03.040 keep it the man didn't want it he's not financially ready he uh doesn't want to be a father he doesn't

07:25:08.400 want to have a parental role she wants to keep it though so he's like well okay um do you think men

07:25:14.960 should just be able to sit throw their hands up walk away not have any financial or parental

07:25:19.360 responsibility to the child you think that's fair i mean they already do but no i mean you could go

07:25:25.200 you have a kid right yeah right um does he pay child support no he just helps out

07:25:29.920 willingly right yeah yeah but if he stopped helping out you could go to court and force

07:25:34.960 him to pay for the child's your kid uh she's almost one year yeah he would have to pay for

07:25:39.440 that kid uh it depends on the state anywhere from 18 to 21 years and you could force him to do it and

07:25:44.960 he would have no say he can't that i don't want to do that nope the court says you're going to pay it

07:25:48.880 if you don't we're going to garnish your wages we're going to take money from your bank accounts

07:25:53.280 we're going to take money from any sort of uh liquid cash that you have and if you don't

07:25:58.160 don't if you don't we're going to punish you and we're going to send you to jail

07:26:02.160 well i think it's case by case but in that case of um the the girl wants to keep it and the guy

07:26:06.720 doesn't then yeah i think he has the right to say well i don't want it i don't know well he has the

07:26:12.400 right to say that well but like if if you're like what you're saying like if if they were allowed to say

07:26:17.280 like to remove like paternity then yeah he has that right no well like i know it's not a real thing but

07:26:24.640 like if if it was then yeah you would be you would be in favor of that sort of legal arrangement

07:26:30.480 yeah where the guy could just without needing the woman's permission he would just say no you take

07:26:35.840 care of it i'm out peace yeah never asked to pay child support that's only fair you know but that's

07:26:40.240 not the case right but i guess what i'm saying is that would be about as close as to equality if

07:26:47.040 abortions remains legal that's about as close as it would be now if your uh boyfriend partner

07:26:54.640 whatever the complicated situation if he just dipped and stopped provide like paying you any money

07:27:01.280 would you seek child support no no but you could and you could force him to pay yeah but if he doesn't

07:27:07.840 want to i wouldn't force them but if that that's that's his choosing court would force him but when it

07:27:13.520 comes to the government the state will eventually send him to jail that's actually taking away fun

07:27:19.920 kind of ironically taking away his bodily autonomy well yeah but if i don't like initiate that then they

07:27:25.760 can't sure yeah you're right like a woman could choose not to uh i think most women do seek child support

07:27:34.400 uh from through the state and also here's the other catch let's say you have no intention of ever um

07:27:42.240 um like you you're not going to go to the state but if you ever even just momentarily need to go

07:27:48.960 on any sort of uh what's it called like government aid like if you go get need uh like medi-cal or you

07:27:56.640 need uh i forgot what it's called uh you need uh not foods what's it called medicaid food stamps yes ebt uh

07:28:05.600 food assistance they're gonna it automatically you can't tell them no no no no i want food assistance

07:28:11.680 uh i want medi-cal i want like uh government health insurance they're gonna go after him for child

07:28:18.240 support regardless of what you want so that's another component there do you think the judicial

07:28:23.920 system should be changed to accommodate that to accommodate um men being able to get out of child

07:28:32.960 support easily um women are never gonna advocate for that because that's true equality at the end

07:28:41.600 of the day women don't care about men's problems yeah but it's complicated it's so complicated i think

07:28:47.360 that's fair what you're saying i think that's fair i mean yeah it's fair but it also takes two people

07:28:53.040 to like make a kid if if the if the girl wants to keep the kid and the guy doesn't then yeah he doesn't

07:28:58.080 like if she like if she if he has expressed to her that i don't want this kid with you i don't

07:29:04.320 want to be a parent i'm not ready and she still continues on that's her choice not his so then

07:29:08.560 he has the right to say you you i like i agree with like not being able to put him on child support

07:29:13.680 well i definitely i disagree i think the man definitely should be forced to pay child support

07:29:18.160 i think that he should be held accountable for the fact that he had that kid but at the same time

07:29:23.120 i think that he should also have a say oh yeah yeah in what a woman does with her body

07:29:29.680 he should have a say he should i believe well you're pro-life right i am pro-life yeah oh yeah

07:29:34.880 i agree with that i'm pro-life so oh i forgot to do this really quick just shifting gears a little

07:29:39.600 bit those of you who took your makeup off can you hold it up to the camera the wipe so we can see the

07:29:44.160 damage hold it up wow okay nice all right wow that that is uh here we're gonna go over here all right

07:29:56.080 and then uh okay all right there you go wow good you guys look beautiful just saying slay queen slay

07:30:04.960 queens all right i think one or two how about this uh quite a few of you circled there is no gender pay

07:30:12.000 gap you disagree with that uh let's see michaela you circled it ebony you circled it

07:30:21.120 uh mecca circled it and just you guys uh michaela why don't you tell us uh so you think there's the

07:30:28.400 pay gap um wait at the circles for disagree disagree yeah so you if you disagree you think there is a

07:30:35.200 gender pay gap oh no i don't think there is oh you think it's just well it depends on the job i guess

07:30:41.680 like strippers um y'all girls are killing it in the stripping game there's magic mics or what do you

07:30:47.200 call them um like chippendales chippendales i don't think they make as much well they get paid to do

07:30:52.880 the show like i'm pretty sure it's like a set pay so or like but like if we if we like all work at

07:30:59.440 like chipotle i'm pretty sure we're just gonna get the same amount of pay you know okay michaela your

07:31:06.000 position yeah i mean i think the same thing like i wasn't there something that came out about some

07:31:10.720 like really famous actors or whatever and the the females were not getting paid oh yeah because the

07:31:15.840 male had the lead role no but i think well i think it was like i saw the story about spider-man so it's

07:31:20.480 like uh toby mcguire who's the lead spider-man and then kirsten dunst the love interest i forgot

07:31:27.920 what's her name and i don't know she's like oh i didn't get paid as much as him well he's spider-man

07:31:31.920 yeah exactly yeah toby mcguire do you guys uh you disagree ebony with the wage you think there

07:31:36.720 is a wage yeah there definitely is a wage okay what is it i mean um i forgot what the percentage

07:31:42.160 was i think women make like 73 percent of every dollar of a man or something um but i mean there's

07:31:50.400 studies on it like women obviously make less money generally on average than men and you know these

07:31:56.080 studies control for people who work 40 hours a week and stuff like that so yeah there definitely is a

07:32:01.280 gender pay cap what do you mean they control for what um like a lot of the points that like

07:32:08.960 conservatives like people who say that there isn't like they like to say oh well you know women take

07:32:12.960 off more maternity leave and like no like these studies control for that they're not comparing the

07:32:18.720 income of people who are not working they're comparing the income of people who are working

07:32:22.320 40-hour work weeks they're comparing people who work the same amount of hours and are in the same

07:32:27.040 profession in the same field and work the same position and women are getting paid less

07:32:31.280 mm-hmm so i mean i've looked into this so you have the uncontrolled and the controlled gender wage gap

07:32:37.280 so you're saying that the uncontrolled gender wage gap is actually the controlled gender wage gap because

07:32:43.600 the 80 cents 78 cents this is actually what it's doing is it's comparing all men and all women and it's

07:32:50.480 not factoring in hours work type hours worked type of job um willingness to relocate the danger that's

07:32:58.560 associated with the job there's like dozens of other uh factors that they just totally ignore it's

07:33:04.240 just like all women compared to all men when you actually do the control uh it shrinks down to one

07:33:11.760 cent yeah and i mean that's that's still is a gap right that adds up over time sure but it could be

07:33:19.920 explained uh how about this um i'm trying to think of an example here i do we'll come right back to it

07:33:28.800 i just need to let this chat come through it's been here for a sec and we'll get them right back

07:33:32.240 wrongful rage donated two hundred dollars chair three we telling you you're trash like your daddy did when

07:33:39.360 he traded your wretched joyful for a pack smokes we all knew your worth then we know it now cope harder

07:33:46.720 get her queen the crystal awaits you get her yo wrongful rage thank you dude do you want to

07:33:53.280 respond to the crystal thing yeah what does the crystal mean i don't i don't use crystals but okay

07:33:58.480 so you again just i guess to reiterate you have uncontrolled controlled wage gap so i don't think

07:34:04.640 it's really a fair representation to say that women make 78 cents on the dollar you're saying like

07:34:09.920 they're trying to put that position forward as if oh exact same career exact same hours worked

07:34:19.600 then the man is going to make that much more money that's not that's not what it's doing but they

07:34:23.840 want to perpetuate this false narrative like again doesn't account for hours worked the field type of

07:34:29.680 job any specialty within the field like for example a public defense a public defender attorney is not

07:34:35.920 going to make the same amount of money as like an attorney who does high profile civil litigation

07:34:41.600 or mergers and acquisitions right but that's what they're doing they're not considering any of

07:34:47.040 these like dozens of different factors that could contribute to somebody making more or less

07:34:52.880 a specific company location so they're just lumping everybody together whether you're in san

07:34:58.400 francisco or in idaho or bozeman montana where there's like different costs of living there's

07:35:03.520 different wages different minimum wages this sort of thing um over time age of retirement

07:35:09.360 not factoring in at all um but if like i said if you control for all these factors it shrinks to one

07:35:15.440 and then um actually you know it's interesting if you look at specific demographics

07:35:20.800 uh it actually so like if you're a single and childless woman uh in a metropolitan area women out earn men

07:35:27.840 so like women between ages ages of like 18 and 30 they out earn men or women who never have children

07:35:35.200 out earn men and suburban or rural it doesn't happen they're like boy band and uh you could be 100

07:35:42.080 times better and they'll kick you out before you take their job sure that might be the case i was

07:35:46.960 talking about like metropolitan area so typically like larger larger towns larger cities like if you look

07:35:51.760 at los angeles new york san francisco uh single childless women they out earn single childless men

07:35:57.280 also even putting that aside asian women out earn white men y'all killing it i mean you're wajian so

07:36:04.640 i don't know how that factors in but y'all killing it you guys are killing it bro um but i actually think

07:36:09.760 the one percent is due to sexism i think it's due to women's sexism really yeah so

07:36:17.280 here here here i'll prove this i'll prove it you women are so sexist you guys cause the wage gap

07:36:25.840 now here's why i should maybe i should have asked this first who here wants a guy to pay for the first

07:36:30.240 date who here would like a guy to be a provider who here would like to be a stay-at-home wife

07:36:40.800 and the guy just pays for everything yeah there you go there look at that enthusiasm so hold on

07:36:47.760 couldn't the one percent be explained by a mating and social pressure that women place on men that

07:36:56.560 men don't place on women so if like as a guy if i can't get a date if i can't get a relationship if i

07:37:05.680 can't get sex if i can't get anything from a woman if i'm not willing to do xyz when it comes to being

07:37:11.280 a provider don't you think that's a significant motivating factor like do you think do you think

07:37:19.040 having a family and kids and a relationship and sex is like pretty motivating to men yeah sure

07:37:27.040 right and i think it's motivating women want that too just to be clear but i don't think

07:37:32.720 your finances matter at all

07:37:39.680 as women yeah like a guy's not gonna like i can't go on a date and expect the girl to pay for the

07:37:45.920 first date but you guys can go on a first date going into it like yeah he's probably gonna pay

07:37:50.960 maybe i have to split but like he's gonna pay right maybe you want the man to pay i would say that i mean

07:37:57.200 in today's modern age i think women's finances do matter to a degree because most marriages are

07:38:05.120 like they're splitting bills like in this economy people can't really live without just off of one

07:38:10.960 income i'll so i'll agree with you that the economic and financial reality is that yes most people are

07:38:18.480 going to need a two-income household absolutely i agree with you but i don't think i think there's

07:38:25.120 a difference in uh biology and there's an evolutionary basis uh even if that's the economic and financial

07:38:32.320 reality i still don't think men really like make major assessments to their attraction towards women

07:38:38.800 based off of how much money she makes or her career like i think you take a high-powered male attorney

07:38:45.280 and he's like wow there's like this really attractive woman who works at starbucks and

07:38:50.320 she's great i don't think she's immediately gonna disqualify that girl he might even prefer her but

07:38:56.800 like you take a high-powered female attorney who makes two hundred thousand dollars a year i don't

07:39:01.120 think she's dating the male barista he's oh he's great he's attractive i'm not marrying that guy she's

07:39:08.240 probably wanting to date a guy who's on her level or higher right but why do you think most men usually

07:39:14.080 end up marrying women within their tax bracket or their level of education i think that's just the

07:39:17.840 sort of reality most people kind of like fall into that general area okay yeah um i don't know i don't

07:39:25.120 necessarily think that most like men who really make money and who live like maybe higher profile

07:39:31.360 lifestyles would be interested in the girl who i think most men want women who are like used to their

07:39:36.400 lifestyle like i feel like if a man is like if he makes a lot of money you're talking about like a

07:39:41.120 millionaire or like a high like high-income man getting with a barista like i think most men would

07:39:47.440 prefer a woman that's going to make them work harder and would be used to nicer things because

07:39:51.680 that's the lifestyle that they're already used to no get get that out get that out what do you mean

07:39:57.680 the lifestyle so she's traveled a bunch um sure she's she's already traveled no i want if if you're

07:40:04.640 a guy and you make a lot of money right you want to be the portal to the world like oh she's already

07:40:10.800 done this before it's just like okay maybe maybe okay the man looks for the most is like emotional

07:40:18.640 intelligence and like a woman who inspires him to be a better man it's not like i don't need inspiration

07:40:26.480 i just do that shit on my own okay i did like a little social experiment on my own sure i um i was

07:40:32.320 on raya for a little bit and i made my occupation uh medical assistant and then i switched it later on

07:40:40.080 to just influencer and i felt like i noticed that there was a i had like i don't want to say

07:40:46.880 significantly but i definitely had more matches from men after switching it to an influencer that is

07:40:54.480 shocking rather than i thought you were gonna say the opposite no because i wanted to see what it

07:41:00.720 was like do you do i thought when i when a woman labels herself as an influencer i very much proceed

07:41:09.200 with caution okay very much because usually there's an of involved sadly did you change anything else on

07:41:16.640 the profile your pictures at all no no no i kept it because so what i thought was i was suspecting that

07:41:22.000 like having medical assistant would get me more matches that's what i was thinking so that's why

07:41:26.560 i intentionally did the like did the experiment myself how many days were you set to medical

07:41:31.760 person or whatever um i don't know it was i mean like they were both you said medical what what was

07:41:40.080 the medical assistant medical assistant i mean nurses are kind of that's true that's true when by the

07:41:45.760 the way we nurses are like men also medical have like stereo negative stereotypes towards like

07:41:51.840 certain women in the health care field it's true because there's like there are certain patterns so

07:41:56.480 that that could that could also be playing that could be but i mean also i would wonder like i mean i

07:42:01.920 don't know how thorough of it like you would have to like test this multiple you have to do a double

07:42:05.600 blind placebo study it's not like there there could be some happenstance like right you know like if a

07:42:11.680 coin i don't know how do i explain this it's just like uh yeah i mean raya could have been pushing my

07:42:17.840 my account more whatever there's like a bunch of different yeah like to it i i would be curious what

07:42:23.440 if you re-downloaded the app right started as influencer and then switched it because i do know

07:42:29.680 sometimes with these apps like it might take you a while to get into the algorithm yeah i don't know

07:42:34.640 all the details right um honestly i think you could i think you could put yeah uh you could call

07:42:41.440 yourself a neat and you'd still get a ton of matches and it's uh not in employment education

07:42:48.640 or training so you're just basically living at home with your parents like that's your job title i

07:42:53.200 think you're still gonna be killing it so it's like but you think like it'd be the same amount

07:42:57.360 of matches as like being an influencer what do you mean like if i if i said influencer if you said

07:43:04.480 college student versus influencer i feel like most guys prefer like a college student yeah influencer when

07:43:10.560 girls are on social media and they get attention on social media it tends to be a very like negative

07:43:17.840 thing i think social media has harmed women a lot more than it's affected men just simply because of

07:43:25.920 the way that women process that attention the way that they deal with it and the way that it changes

07:43:32.080 them as a person i think that it's different well here why don't we test it out like this

07:43:37.200 do you feel like you may be missed out on dating certain men because of your finances um

07:43:51.280 no

07:43:54.240 no

07:43:59.680 no

07:44:01.040 no

07:44:01.280 no

07:44:02.480 no

07:44:05.120 i think the more successful i become the the pool gets smaller yeah that makes sense um no

07:44:17.040 i agree with what she said okay i don't know so i guess my original point was there's just like this

07:44:22.720 massive social and mating pressure on men that's enforced by women even if it's 50 let's say only 50 50

07:44:30.960 of women don't care at all the guy could be a broke bum they don't i think it's more but let's

07:44:35.520 say it's just 50 of women i think that'd be fair to say would at the very least want a guy to pay for

07:44:40.640 the first date i think it goes beyond that i think women would i think 50 of men would want

07:44:45.520 a provider i think 50 of women would be uh if possible maybe even i don't know how many would

07:44:51.360 want to be stay-at-home uh stay-at-home wives and just have the man work whatever uh it occurred

07:44:57.200 whereas i don't think i or any man can go into any encounter with a woman and have this expectation

07:45:04.960 she's going to pay for the first date i want to be the stay-at-home dad like if i if i told you guys

07:45:11.360 on a first date you're so great i think you're beautiful when we when we have kids i want you

07:45:20.240 maybe you take a couple weeks off but then get right back to work and i'll stay at home and take

07:45:24.160 care of the kids i want to i want to be the stay-at-home dad you work for 30 years you support

07:45:30.720 me you support the family i'll take care of the household i'll do the cooking i'll do the cleaning

07:45:35.760 i'll take care of the kids i don't think a lot of women are going to be okay with that

07:45:41.840 right am i am i i wouldn't i wouldn't be okay with that yeah is there a single one if i was like a

07:45:46.960 super rich woman i would i mean well that's different i i mean i don't i don't think that

07:45:52.880 that's like normal but if if he was a better parent than i was i don't think that i would

07:45:59.120 be completely against that like if my job was like just sailing around all day i think that

07:46:04.320 that would be really fun i mean there could be an argument that's made if you're like a high earning

07:46:08.720 woman yeah like i mean i personally wouldn't like prefer this dynamic but and like the

07:46:17.520 i don't think high earning women want to well whatever maybe you find that special guy but

07:46:22.160 i'd rather both just you know both contributed rather than it feeling like one person is in

07:46:28.480 charge of the finances to a point where there's some sort of you know friction in the relationship

07:46:34.080 because of that because that does happen a lot you know majority of the fights that married

07:46:38.720 couples have are over finances or infidelity or you know how to raise a child so i do think that

07:46:43.840 having some sort of income as a woman even if it's small you know you're contributing and so

07:46:49.520 that that does alleviate some of those arguments i wonder if andrew would disagree with me saying this

07:46:55.360 if he was here but i think that it's the man's job to step up and make sure that that's not an

07:47:00.800 issue like i think a lot of agree with i think a lot of guys a lot of guys say oh i can't control

07:47:07.040 my earning potential like i i can't do this like it's it's not up to me it's it's fate or something

07:47:14.080 i think that's ridiculous i think all men can work harder all men can make more money you just have to

07:47:19.440 use your head and you have to work hard you can control your earning a woman that makes him inspired

07:47:24.400 to be a better man and like want to step up and i think that that's i mean do you have an issue with

07:47:30.160 that because the truth is that men that tend to get married do tend to also make more money and i

07:47:37.280 think the motivation there is ultimately because they're driving to provide for the family yeah so

07:47:42.720 i don't think there's an issue yeah i do think there's that i mean i guess ultimately it's just

07:47:47.120 this whole thing it's not really a metric that men judge women on i think you women are i'm not

07:47:53.600 saying women are just going to be completely unmotivated like obviously there's like base level

07:47:58.960 survival like oh okay i need to make money so i have a house i can eat i can be comfortable but

07:48:05.600 like men have this on top of like the base level survival considerations that both men and women

07:48:11.760 have men on top of that have to be like if i want a date if i want a girlfriend if i want a wife

07:48:17.920 i gotta make money where and and if i'm not financially attractive economically attractive to women

07:48:24.640 then i might i might maybe i can't take her on the date whereas i don't think women are really

07:48:33.600 thinking like oh man i wonder is he gonna think i'm broke like guys don't think about that like we're

07:48:39.600 not assessing you on your on your money and even a guy who who maybe he's not making enough money

07:48:46.000 to the point where like maybe it would be difficult to like have a family given the the what you brought

07:48:53.040 up the whole uh uh you need you need two incomes to survive right for most for a lot of people i still

07:49:00.160 think man that guy's gonna look at like a beautiful woman who's who's got a good personality who's works at

07:49:07.200 the uh who's a barista he's gonna pick her he doesn't care it's it's so low it's such a low

07:49:15.040 priority most men aren't going to even trip about it even men who would like their lifestyle would be

07:49:19.280 much better if they did have a partner who made more money i agree honestly the wage gap is all your

07:49:26.240 fault it's all your fault it's all women's fault because you put this immense massive social and mating

07:49:33.200 pressure on us men and we're just more motivated to go out and make money so we can take you to

07:49:40.720 mcdonald's or chick-fil-a okay it's chick-fil-a for sure chick-fil-a definitely chick-fil-a all right um

07:49:49.200 let's see here uh okay that's pretty much it mating yep mating pressure um

07:49:56.240 okay we're gonna do a roast session then we'll wrap the show 10 minutes

07:49:59.120 guys any final thoughts from any panelists here any uh final thoughts from any of the panelists

07:50:05.760 speak now forever hold your peace final chance you can ask us like oh do you guys you know i think

07:50:12.240 men do care about a woman not making money like i feel like when i've had times of um bad luck or

07:50:21.360 whatever or even now even working i get can get told i'm worthless or um

07:50:28.080 like i i don't know i get degraded if what do you mean the guy a guy has told you

07:50:34.640 listen up is this you do not make enough money like uh you don't have a big job right now

07:50:42.320 for this and then i got told last week you're 28 years old and you're

07:50:46.640 laying in in a bed that's his own insecurities like it's like degraded like degrading that i'm

07:50:52.160 worried is this in a romantic context or is this just like well he was upset you were working or

07:50:57.360 were you like laying in bed depressed or something take on a big job for this trip

07:51:02.240 and then laying in bed yeah sure there's some some soy boys out there i agree and then also like if

07:51:08.720 you're smarter work harder because there's also part where i make more money or um i also get degraded for

07:51:15.280 that you get degraded if for what uh for nothing like exactly it's you're just chilling but there's

07:51:21.920 ego like involved in men's world a lot like they have like hidden um hidden competition with like

07:51:31.520 everything they can't just breathe and chill and relax i don't know so i just want to say they do care

07:51:38.720 if you work or not because they will the girls at our home they will throw that in their face at least

07:51:43.520 once in their life that they do nothing uh it's just what it is well are you bowing though i mean

07:51:50.640 that's yeah i was gonna say i do bow i do bow especially after you set a brain wow you another

07:51:57.680 conversion there you go i think work ethic is super important in a woman like i very much look for

07:52:03.440 a good work ethic but i don't expect them to be financially successful because you know of their work

07:52:10.560 ethic yeah the work ethic comes with like good brain there's way more to it that's why i don't

07:52:15.600 want to be a stay-at-home mom i like working because i love seeing uh what my brain can do in a day

07:52:21.680 um and how it can and like critical tts is 20 guys okay uh no you go ahead oh i was gonna say that i

07:52:29.360 think that women should be motivated to work hard yeah women women i think women should be motivated

07:52:36.720 to work hard by like through through nurturing because they want to nurture because they want to

07:52:43.840 ultimately they want to love and care for like the family if that makes sense i think that's what

07:52:49.520 motivates them you know women are motivated by different things than men they are very very different

07:52:55.360 men are more motivated statistically by things material possessions women in general are more

07:53:02.640 motivated by people by relationships in general and i think that when you switch those up i think that you

07:53:09.760 see a very very i think you see a deterioration in quality of life for both men and women because the

07:53:16.320 women that become more materialistic they're ultimately not meant to be that way and i think that a lot of

07:53:22.800 them suffer from depression and i think a lot of them get depressed because of that because they're

07:53:28.080 focusing on a more male uh they're focusing on something that men are more attracted to and vice versa

07:53:34.960 yeah it's also good for them to get out of the house because you're just stuck with like these little

07:53:39.280 humans all day that can't have real conversations um even when they can talk they're still not real

07:53:44.880 and that woman's stuck there all day um with that world and you're the one out there getting to hear

07:53:50.800 tons of people's experiences and get to joke around and whatever all right guys we're going to do the

07:53:57.040 roast session here we'll do a very brief roast session then wrapping the show so uh guys twenty

07:54:02.480 dollar tts get your roasts ready oh this is great toast donated thank you w's in the chat as a man that

07:54:12.160 makes 45 000 a year i can tell you i don't give a puppy about a woman's finances

07:54:19.920 yo toast that's a really good point i mean 45 000 i think that's like what maybe even slightly below it

07:54:26.000 used to be the average income but i think it's slightly below the average income toast what do

07:54:30.800 you do for work by the way he doesn't give a i mean i've made different amounts of money throughout

07:54:35.440 my life it i never cared never cared how much uh money a woman makes yeah the more money i make

07:54:43.600 the less yeah the more money i make the less i care the less i it didn't even matter at the very

07:54:49.120 beginning to be honest yep don't care don't care um okay daryl underscores frank castle 512 donated 20

07:55:00.960 dollars chair three hates men cause her dad never returned back with the milk imagine working all

07:55:07.520 week to give her your check she's barely dressed hashtag strumpet damn okay do you want to you can

07:55:14.560 you want to say something back to frank i don't not not to this nothing no nothing you don't want to

07:55:20.160 call him a little shrimp dick obviously yeah these other things i saw actually i didn't pull that up

07:55:26.560 suffering from three inch penis wow yeah you wrote your little pathetic not not to me but your

07:55:34.640 it was on your one of your pages your little pathetic shrimp dick can never handle a superior

07:55:40.000 ebony ass like no that's what you're about to put it up that's what you wrote i'm dead no i can't

07:55:47.200 pull it up but that's what you were and then you said too bad little dick loser you're not bring that

07:55:52.240 fucking energy what's up i i did i didn't bring that energy she's out of the energy now she's out

07:55:58.080 of the uh you said you know you're addicted loser come be my little atm good boy what the

07:56:03.040 fuck all right um all right there you go sons of liberty donated 19 and 99 cents chair three certified

07:56:13.760 narcissist and racist love how racism towards whites is tolerated accepted and excused by this new

07:56:21.360 generation no one speaks up because who cares rector donated and you know it's funny how some women

07:56:29.280 will plow random strangers for money but a vote to their man will take away their dignity one plus one

07:56:35.280 equals three boys we need to go to defcon one these women are both plow thank you love it thank you

07:56:43.680 you keep acting that is the chaffer factor

07:56:46.400 chair six there is hope for so long as you accept that being 33 means you need realistic expectations

07:56:53.600 the dude in chair three however is doomed oh wait that's not a dude big yikes for me boys

07:57:00.560 oh please you know i wasn't a dude you're hurt as fuck please go worry about your receding airline

07:57:07.040 honestly how pathetic can you be constantly bringing people down

07:57:11.600 cause you don't like what you see in the mirror everything does not revolve around race

07:57:17.280 pitifu oh my god i pitifu are y'all okay i don't hate white people 12. did you have a response to the

07:57:25.760 previous one chair six what did they say it said uh there is hope for for you so long as you accept that

07:57:33.920 being 33 means you need realistic expectations never settle queen never settle right i think i have

07:57:43.360 realistic expectations yeah you seem reasonable i don't you see yeah i like like a like a humble six

07:57:49.040 a humble six okay yeah like i'm not like looking for like a like they don't have to be like six feet or

07:57:56.240 okay just like a just a normal normal nice nice guy guy guy i think there's a lot of hope yeah no

07:58:05.200 she's reasonable she's reasonable um okay we have toast here toast donated twenty dollars i work 12

07:58:13.440 hour shifts building windows

07:58:19.440 let's go let's 12 hour shifts that's crazy man blue collar blue collar w's in the chat for toast

07:58:27.520 oj simpson donated twenty dollars didn't read my super chat blood anyways what house are you brixon

07:58:35.440 oh i don't i don't really i don't know harry potter's kind of whatever um aren't there like

07:58:41.760 tests that you can take i'm probably slytherin probably i don't know what okay what's everybody's

07:58:47.600 fucking harry potter house i guess starting i did i think i'm hufflepuff you're such a hufflepuff

07:58:57.520 what is it you don't know gryffindor gryffindor okay i never watch harry potter but i like the sound of

07:59:02.960 slytherin so i'd say that one sex actors i did what about you i did the test and i was slytherin

07:59:10.080 okay i've never watched terry potter i don't even know what that is probably gryffindor yeah i get

07:59:16.000 gryffindor vibes from you all right what about you okay i think gryffindor i don't know you're

07:59:23.600 ravenclaw get out of here i think you know what i'm switching i'm ravenclaw for fuck it what about

07:59:29.440 you so we're you're gryffindor right yeah i'm gryffindor what about i don't watch what about

07:59:33.520 you i was going to say ravenclaw i think they're the ones that study oh there you go yeah what's

07:59:38.400 the differences i don't know all right mlk junior senior donated twenty dollars for the sister in

07:59:46.480 chair three let me know how bad it stank girl how small is it what's your income what's your credit

07:59:52.720 score oh shit all right thank you uh mlk i appreciate it wrongful rage donated

08:00:00.080 chair three most men who make 30k have more value than your succubi gash living off simps like a

08:00:06.480 ghetto home put a post hoe in a dress and diamonds she's still a post home be wary what donut you riz

08:00:13.600 boy otis strutwood donated twenty dollars these strumpets of sex with men on first meetups but hey

08:00:22.000 do not be my side of street out of fear what nonsense put yourself in better situations you will find

08:00:29.280 better men that's a great point i like that oh really quick guys i'm just gonna do a quick shout

08:00:34.960 out if you guys want send a hundred percent of your contribution to the whatever podcast whatever

08:00:39.040 pod on venmo and cash app shout out elmer we uh elmer for the five on cash app and shout out to

08:00:46.640 andy johnson for the five on venmo thank you so much man appreciate it uh also i'll just read it he

08:00:53.440 said all the women who take off makeup i'd say are more attractive now after taking it off wow there you

08:00:58.960 go more attractive congratulations um oh wait you want to pop off pop out your fake contact lenses

08:01:06.720 on my fake one right now yeah you can so we can see your oh she'll oh she'll actually do it okay

08:01:12.960 i don't know if you can see it but oh you're gonna just oh like take it out take it out yeah the

08:01:17.120 contact can you or what if i can't put it back in because it like drives out i guess just drive home

08:01:22.400 blind yeah are they correct i can put it to the side are they corrective

08:01:26.800 are they corrective too here show me to the side

08:01:32.880 okay cool wait look into this camera and do it this camera right here i don't know if they'll be

08:01:38.800 able to tell but you can tell nice okay cool all right um oh let's do twitch really quick guys go to

08:01:45.920 twitch final call for twitch twitch.tv slash whatever drops follow drop us a prime sub if you have one

08:01:51.200 crowd think for the prime mute think for the prime pitay underdog think for the prime really

08:02:00.480 appreciate it thank you guys so much for supporting over there on twitch uh we have this one final

08:02:07.920 you're totally fried except the girl in chair one she cute and has a good head on her shoulders

08:02:14.720 besides chair three put away the muffin top with your belly shirt you ain't britney spears oh my god

08:02:20.400 we know you have a pot belly and a receding hairline and a three inch dick come on now

08:02:24.640 don't be coming for me i'm still getting money from men motion of the ocean i'm still living a high

08:02:29.440 value life okay it's okay you'll sleep at night okay that's cool and uh let's see here guys final call

08:02:35.680 twenty dollar tts if you want to get one last one in um uh what's every how about this uh final thing

08:02:42.960 what's everybody's what's your type going around the table you can maybe say like one thing physical

08:02:46.880 one thing personality wise if you want go ahead um physical i feel like i don't have really a type

08:02:52.400 um but like personality wise i feel like i go for guys that are kind of type a because i'm like that

08:02:57.520 too type a yeah i would prefer somebody who's physically active just because i feel like it

08:03:04.080 means that they take care of themselves okay um in terms of personality i'd say genuine genuine okay

08:03:12.560 uh i would say the six six six six figures six foot six pack

08:03:21.600 okay um also physically active and ambitious and resilient all right anisa um someone that's

08:03:29.520 physically active as well um personality wise just super down to earth and genuine just like you said

08:03:36.720 um physically active um physically active definitely broader shoulders than mine

08:03:46.000 and um for personality um i tend to be attracted to guys who are well traveled

08:03:55.680 okay i think physically um

08:04:04.400 i don't have one usually like just tall guys um personality um really ambitious guys to like know

08:04:12.320 what they want and um that are just nice funny i just say athletic and virtuous

08:04:20.320 um type so oh wait looks yeah uh symmetrically breathable

08:04:32.640 and uh personality it's about perspective i want somebody that has the same brain as mine

08:04:40.320 same brain as yours yeah so i don't have to you know fight assumptions or irrational thoughts

08:04:49.760 yeah i get i get that okay that's valid okay um christian pure blonde also fit brian's gonna find it for me

08:05:04.080 that's right that is right uh i could tell you guys what i want but it'll take me like

08:05:10.080 like 60 seconds to do it so i'll let i'll let the panel vote if you want to hear it or not

08:05:17.760 i feel like i already know what it is isn't it like

08:05:20.240 it's one o'clock it's 110 in the morning we're making this happen 100 i think that's a that all

08:05:26.480 right wait you you've watched the show you know what it is yeah i watched it it's like you like

08:05:31.360 short girls um was it with big labias

08:05:39.200 i think you said redheads did you say redheads wow brian okay sure i remember sure i'm more like

08:05:46.240 dark hair i'm a dark hair kind of guy you're like you're like the four elevens

08:05:51.040 yeah if her height doesn't start with a four she ain't the one

08:05:53.840 like if she's five two she's too tall wow no i'm kidding how tall are you no i was about

08:05:59.760 i'm six for one i'm kidding though i mean i say there's a joke i'll date a girl i'll date a girl

08:06:04.080 who's taller than me i'll date a girl who's six five but i'll date a girl who's short too um

08:06:09.520 doesn't matter uh here i'll just read it i wrote it down because there's so much that i'm looking i'm

08:06:15.040 looking for so much i'll just read it uh let's see um you know what what i'd like i want to meet a

08:06:21.840 great girl date for a few years travel a bunch um i'd like to end up in hawaii that's my kind of

08:06:28.000 eventual goal uh have her help me with my mission just have some kids and i'll take care of everything

08:06:35.680 kind of would like that dynamic um any any race is fine i'll date any race but i do have i i've mostly

08:06:47.840 dated white asian and latina women i just don't think black women you guys don't like me you know

08:06:58.320 i can't see with a black woman no it's a you guys don't like me i don't know anyways uh

08:07:04.320 you see me with a black woman yeah yeah you're very you're very um like frat i'm very frat yeah

08:07:15.120 chad there you go w chad you're part of this

08:07:21.440 um let's see i think i oh uh height don't really care um tall short whatever uh oh natural

08:07:30.880 preferred natural body so like no fake boobs no bbl no lipo like i'll take a girl you're gonna

08:07:38.240 accuse me of being like a terrible criminal i guess like i'll take a girl uh with like flat or a

08:07:44.720 cup or whatever over over hold on hear me out over like perfect fake titties sorry mikayla sorry

08:07:53.360 bella yeah stop the cap big titties we know you're taking those titties i disagree look fake boobs

08:07:59.280 aren't a deal breaker tell like i can tell you can before they've dropped like once they settle but

08:08:06.480 no i like uh you know like wrong oh uh bbl i'll take like no ass over a bbl you know yeah don't get me

08:08:17.440 wrong look crazy a nice ass is good don't get me wrong but if it's between like no ass and perfect

08:08:24.000 even if it's a perfect bbl i'll take the i'll take no ass i don't know i just think it looks kind of

08:08:28.640 weird i'll take a little belly fat over lipo belly i don't know the lipo belly looks kind of weird

08:08:34.000 and no labioplasty obviously will not stand for it any any outies at the table

08:08:39.600 oh okay cool uh anybody else or no okay sorry that was that's a bit awkward um oh uh i'll take

08:08:51.200 like no upper lip over like lip fillers whatever okay uh let's see uh what else is there uh

08:09:02.880 i i have a no hold on i'm not gonna reveal that um i do like to build my partner up though like

08:09:08.560 uh uh i don't know what do you mean by that that's the best thing no just like uh give praise and

08:09:15.440 stuff you know oh i want to know what island that's lame build a girlfriend like if this kind of tie

08:09:24.160 i'll explain a bit more this ties into like the like fake plastic surgery stuff if my girlfriend came

08:09:29.600 to me and asked my opinion on it if she should get plastic surgery i'm kind of i don't like my boobs

08:09:35.680 i don't like my butt i don't like my belly i'd be like fuck that shit i like you how you are you're

08:09:41.200 beautiful you don't need that shit don't do it so that's kind of like i don't know i just

08:09:46.080 build her up whatever uh i like you how you are um let's see what else uh like kind of

08:09:55.680 she needs to have done at least three years of cello

08:09:57.840 i'll accept two years of violin or one year of piano because i'm a nice guy like that and i'm

08:10:06.080 considerate uh any cello players here i'm great i play violin

08:10:14.000 i knew it no i'm kidding i'm kidding uh let's see what else

08:10:17.440 i caught the flu that's gross um wait a minute but couldn't huge red flag any any wind instruments

08:10:28.240 or any instruments actually you know what if they never mind it actually might be a green flag um but

08:10:32.880 anyways uh that's what i'm saying all it takes to to like make me happy is if you'll just like

08:10:39.200 scratch my back or massage me like that's it and bow and bow and bow that's it that's it i'm you

08:10:45.440 know you don't got to be like i don't know i also i think i prefer more introverted women

08:10:51.040 i'll date an extrovert but i think i'm more like kind of in on i'm more on the introverted side so i

08:10:55.600 can't prefer more like mellow chill introverted women but uh okay there's there's like a million

08:11:00.960 other things but i think we'll leave it there um oh yeah okay we'll leave it there yeah that's good

08:11:07.040 okay all right let me let the rest of the roast come through sorry i wasted i wasted so

08:11:11.680 much oh my god there's a lot okay that's sons of liberty donated 19 and 99 cents to the feminist

08:11:19.520 christian who views men very negatively men and women can't be friends any man who calls a girl

08:11:26.000 his best friend is either a simp or wants to bang you is that me or her dutch playstation gamer

08:11:32.000 donated 20 dollars welcome back brixton just tuned in but ladies what do you think of gamers yay or hell

08:11:40.400 no chair three maybe a shirt next time and do next to brian dude how fucking ripped are you

08:11:48.240 fck in hell but where's the camera there you go fuck nice uh frank castle the real frank castle

08:12:00.320 i cannot play this one but i will say he called you lesbian moana and that's it i'm not reading the

08:12:08.880 rest oh wow i'm sorry frank castle it's a little too hard oh shit okay that's it okay all right oh my

08:12:19.360 why would i have a feelings about me grand meow xd donated 20 dollars j9 you deserve to have a good

08:12:27.520 life a good man will come to you eventually there you go that's super sweet love you too boom

08:12:36.160 we got ebony butt donated 20 dollars chair three brexton was right your yams are a and the fact that most

08:12:45.520 ladies only date people with the same amount of more money as them is sexist wow they named

08:12:53.520 themselves ebony butt i can't smooth donated 20 dollars yeah okay eight inches hung white boy who

08:13:00.240 knows his worth so yeah you tripping their coke bottles okay i'm confused what's he saying

08:13:09.840 got a few more coming guys and then wrongful rage donated 20 dollars i'm not even gonna bust your

08:13:19.600 balls brian about the looting comment to chair three she loots poor men and believes herself of worth

08:13:26.320 reality knows different

08:13:31.200 still making money don't care to real frank castle i can't pull up your next one but this is for chair

08:13:36.480 nine uh i won't i can't read the first part i'm sorry i just but he does say pretty sure you can

08:13:42.880 find your dream man down by the 7-eleven sleeping in the parking lot do you want to respond to that

08:13:50.480 or are you more of like a uh like an am kind of girl like 7-eleven is not okay i don't know uh all right

08:14:00.000 we have three more four more vector donated twenty dollars chair three the men of this current

08:14:06.880 society have given you permission to rob mentally ill men for the sake of a fetish these men have led

08:14:12.720 you to be a slave to your fetish what a bunch of feminine men amen okay i think i would say they're

08:14:20.880 men who know they their place i think wow that's wild and yet they're stupid

08:14:29.440 if brian's girl ain't burrito shape it's a deal breaker burrito shape

08:14:37.040 there's just like guacamole falling out of her sour cream that would not be good no okay

08:14:43.360 i'm now embracing misogyny donated twenty dollars and sixty nine cents he's got a point if what chair

08:14:51.520 three said and feels is really genuine the lack of unified outrage from the rest of the panel

08:14:57.200 slight kudos to those who did nicely speak out i am now leaning to misogyny

08:15:04.640 oh my god i don't know do you think maybe it's like

08:15:07.120 maybe this you guys just aren't confrontational about this i tried to be i said i didn't you got

08:15:14.160 to be like yo you're giving us a bad name bruv come at her i mean she's not giving me a bad name

08:15:20.960 30 seconds go at her do it oh my god say these men go off queen against each other hey go off queen

08:15:27.520 go off queen no anisa come on i'm not gonna come here like that but it was a white man trying to divide

08:15:33.360 the people no i'm just playing hey yo defend us defend us hey i'm switzerland okay switzerland

08:15:41.440 yeah she's not taking it aside yeah oh she's neutral but those posts were like

08:15:48.560 say it they were just right iconic go off queen you said they were for work but it was really just

08:15:54.960 like the pointing out white guy white guy white guy like that was just kind of they really i barely

08:15:59.840 tweet about white guys i don't you guys really picked out the white boy tweets like most of those

08:16:05.360 tweets said that go off queen what else i'm just saying no that's it oh okay that's it cool

08:16:11.920 a milk junior senior donated twenty dollars chair one you sound like minka kelly which is hot

08:16:19.200 chair three don't talk to me like that i know it's dank girl i know it's small boy

08:16:25.200 i don't know who that is i don't know who that is joshua simpson donated twenty dollars

08:16:32.800 that was in regards to the third seat talking about being potbelly and small

08:16:37.760 it's i'm the only comeback she had she's definitely a weirdo oh i'm sorry you think the underscore

08:16:45.280 chastity underscore peen donated let me out

08:16:49.280 that's great never all right uh let's see here we have a super chat from aaron chambers

08:16:58.400 he reads shout out from tuscaloosa alabama tuscaloosa always reminds me of that sublime

08:17:04.560 song where they're just they're like for like a minute he's just listing off cities you know what

08:17:12.080 i mean what's that song april okay whatever uh somebody in chat help me out what's the name of that

08:17:18.640 song glad to see the show back even more glad trump is back in office you take a lot of crap

08:17:22.560 for the show brian but you are a good man uh thank you aaron really appreciate it man i'm six months

08:17:27.760 clean from coke praise jesus and i mean that i'm thankful hashtag roll tide love it aaron that's

08:17:34.640 awesome yo aaron congrats on your sobriety man uh thank you for the very kind words very much

08:17:38.880 appreciate it you are a uh you're a gentleman and scholar thank you aaron do appreciate it uh w's in

08:17:45.680 the chat for aaron there for that uh very generous super chat all right hold on we got one more here

08:17:51.440 and then we're gonna wrap it okay yes plow no bow donated twenty dollars yes blank no bow yes

08:17:59.840 blank no bow they're plowing the men they're not buying to the men hide your men hide them good

08:18:06.960 they aren't buying to us they need to know their place wow poor poor women

08:18:14.640 okay there you go uh thank you so much uh for that appreciate it all right uh okay we're gonna wrap up

08:18:23.840 the show um i want to do a call to action i'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment

08:18:29.440 as an opportunity to give you you and you a call to action would you consider on the whatever podcast

08:18:38.640 quitting sex work tonight no after this whole conversation today or just yes no no um yeah

08:18:50.800 that's my goal after i finish school right now tonight right now no why is it your goal okay i

08:18:55.520 tried to stop all right that's cool i tried my best guys i tried my best um all right uh gg well

08:19:04.160 to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you

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08:19:18.480 is sorry i'm eight hours deep and i'm brain fogging here very much appreciated we will be live again

08:19:26.800 sunday at 5 p.m pacific we have uh fantastic panels this coming uh coming into february we got uh an

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08:19:42.560 any girls who want to be on the show dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara we're

08:19:47.280 gonna do twitch raid really quick uh damien i'm gonna have you pull up monkey news monkey news on

08:19:54.720 twitch he is playing world of warcraft classic he is in alterak valley playing pvp uh get him pulled up

08:20:06.160 he's he's uh let's see here yeah pull it up it looks like this is just fresh the the anniversary realms

08:20:15.840 probably yeah i'm assuming it's the anniversary realms all right guys thank you for watching on

08:20:19.440 twitch tell him he needs to when you go uh raid him tell him he needs to he's wait he's playing

08:20:27.360 hold on he's doing two alterak valleys at the same time this guy's a giga chad giga chad warrior

08:20:36.080 tell him he needs to dance on both his characters tell him he needs to dance slash dance when i send you

08:20:42.080 the raid over tell him he needs to slash dance for 10 seconds on each of his characters all right

08:20:47.360 uh thank you guys for watching on twitch i'm sending the raid over now

08:20:52.640 all right let's see here you guys should uh definitely never play world of warcraft

08:20:58.160 because it's addictive i don't play i used to though

08:21:03.520 so they he's alliance in av

08:21:06.560 let's see here

08:21:18.240 let's see if he gets it

08:21:24.080 oh my god

08:21:36.560 he's very focused he's playing two different clients he's playing two different games okay

08:21:48.400 we'll have to uh we're gonna have to leave it at that that i don't know if he's even has his

08:21:52.800 audio set up okay we're all good on everything okay guys like the video on your way out oh sevens in

08:21:58.720 the chat oh sevens in the chat good night guys good night guys we will see you on sunday good night

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