Curfews For Men?! Can Women Be TOO Nice⧸Submissive?! She Dated NFL⧸NBA Players?! | Dating Talk #224
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we have a special guest on the show, andrew "Andrew" Kwan. Andrew is a 22-year-old medical influencer on the side of the "Good Fight" organization, and is a member of the board of directors of the Good Fight Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to eradicating krav maga in America.
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10 krav maga baddie she tried to rear naked choke eric illesophical who's like six foot four did not
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go well uh so krav maga not not the most effective uh at least in that in that context um and let's
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see disclaimer the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever
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channel oh by the way uh before we have everyone introduce themselves andrew will be joining us
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here in just a few minutes uh with that said without further ado we're gonna have the guests
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introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location occupation and education so if you went
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to college or major etc go ahead my name is michaela kwan i'm 22 years old i'm from fort lauderdale
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florida i am a medical assistant and then i'm an influencer on the side and i have a bachelor's in
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nutrition from the university of florida all right rock and roll what about you my name is bella i do
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only fans um i just dropped out of college after doing it for one and a half years majoring in
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criminal justice and i'm 20 years old all right and uh did you say where you're from oh and i'm from l.a
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from l.a oh like born and raised okay and uh what do you do on of what kind of content uh full nudity
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any bg stuff or okay and what can we even i don't know if we can say it on on stream
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uh maybe try to censor it but what i don't know if what's your instagram usually i'm just curious
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chinkerbell that's that's crazy um we have a couple we have uh i believe two two other asian women
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at on the panel do you what do you guys think about the you know the the name is it fire is it
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fire okay that's cool yeah that's fun uh all right uh what about you uh my name is ebony i'm 20 i'm from
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florida um do i have to say the city no you don't have to say city i'm from florida and um i do only
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fans as well i also do webcamming and um what was the other question uh education like are you in
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college i was in college i dropped out i was doing biology okay all right how many years in did you
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drop out like two semesters yeah okay uh what about you hello my name is shelby clayton i'm 23 years old
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i'm originally from reno nevada but i live in la now um i do acting modeling and fitness content
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all right cool oh uh any school no school okay what about you um hi i'm anisa born and raised in la
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i'm still in college majoring in political science um i act make music and do influencing on the side as
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well uh age 20 20. and you're you've always been from la or well um born and raised a little bit in
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la then i moved to the valley so i guess you could say woodland hills gotcha and you're in your uh third
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year fourth year of university or second second year and you said you uh do some music what kind of
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music do you do um i sing r&b music uh-huh let's hear something oh wait do you know uh etta james
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uh at last do you know that song i know a couple words i mean i could do like or whatever you want
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you can do whatever you'd like okay let's see threw away your love letters i thought it made me feel
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better i finally got you out my head but i still can't get you off my bed oh i'm sending you one
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text at a time i know you by your phone so boy pick up your line and i ain't too proud to beg so
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what's been said has been said that was great rock and roll and you said that you do influencing
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can you be a little bit more specific what's the is there like a genre of influencing i guess like
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i like to say kind of lifestyle content so like everyday errands i'll do some videos on that okay
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i'm out shopping and fashion stuff too and just daily lifestyle stuff fashion and i do makeup videos
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as well okay so it's kind of like a little bit of everything that has to do with everyday life
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gotcha okay and you said that you did influencing too what's yours is yours similar yeah it's mostly
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like it's on tiktok okay it's pretty much now it's like lifestyle content okay it started off
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just like sharing stuff about being biracial gotcha okay interesting it started off that way but yeah
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did it continue i mean it continued but like people started making fun of me they were saying it was
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like my only personality trait so i kind of switched to do like content that i like to do all right yeah
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uh what about you hi my name is mylin i'm 33 and i own and manage a meal prep store in west hollywood
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and silver lake and um i graduated from the cordon bleu is that a it's a culinary school chef oh
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culinary okay um did you do any like uh besides that did you go to like i don't know more typical
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university or college or straight to culinary school i tried college like six times how many different
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colleges six six different colleges okay yeah and did you get like an associates or i was getting
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ready to apply to nursing school and i just kind of i decided to go more like the entrepreneur like
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business route okay got it and i'm also from los angeles but i was born in japan okay do you speak
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japanese or yeah i sound like i'm five but yeah okay all right uh what about you um my name is mecca
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i'm 25 i'm from la i model and i dance um i went to school but i dropped out but i want to go back for
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cosmetology gotcha and when you say dance like uh like in a club stripping yeah all right there you go
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okay what about you my name is daya um i'm 21 i'm originally from arizona and georgia and now i live
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in la um i graduated with my bachelor's degree in marketing and now i work as a marketer and a sailor
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and a sailor okay got it uh what do you sail on do you have a boat i do have a boat yeah on the boat i
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yeah and i'm beginning a business where i'm teaching other women how to sail so that's the end goal is to
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teach other women how to be one with mother nature do you will you teach men or is it
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i mean yes like brandon over here wants to learn how to yeah what if i want to sail do you like what
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if he wants um no okay no i mean um i plan on doing women only trips i feel like that's safer creating
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a safe space for just women to be together yeah what if there's a bear on the sailboat then we're
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pushing the bear off i've got my would you rather have a bear on the sailboat or a man on the sailboat
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so i believe that you know i have taught some men and i would teach men sailing but i would not do
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male groups with myself on a sailboat in a remote island i don't think that's a good idea so it's
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like a safe space for women yes but like what if none of the women are like strong enough to like
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move the jib boom well i can move the you know how to move the jib boom the jib boom do you know what
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you're a sailor right you know what the jib that's what it's called okay there's a mast which has a boom
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the jib boom there is okay i will teach you how to sail all right um what about you my name is
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samson i am 28 i'm from michigan and i'm a home improvement contractor along with i've done
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maintenance and technician work uh any schooling or college anything uh just two on one year of
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college okay yeah all right my name is brandon clark i'm from bozeman montana i am a natural
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bodybuilder um i'm an entrepreneur fitness coach i own a couple of businesses and i am a college dropout
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yeah i've used in the chat for the w and i'm a virgin i might as well just get that out of the
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way right now and brian is trying to find the love of my life for me yes um we were i was going to get
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to that during the like the relationship status part i thought you just wanted me to come out with
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it now just like i mean that works too i might as well stamp it on my forehead yeah all right there
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you go yeah i am his uh i'm i'm your you have to go through brian dm brian first to get to me yes um
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um all right uh i'm brian atlas 35 youtuber washed up has been over the hill podcast host uh yeah
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that's pretty much it uh andrew what about you oh no andrew oh my gosh she shaved the beard what
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happened hold on just cut cut the call damien cut the call what did oh dude
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yeah my face is very cold he shaved he shaved his beard yeah so my name is uh andrew wilson i'm the
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host of the crucible it's popular entertainment channel on youtube i'm a political analyst a
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political satirist and i do conversations and debates all over the world and i'm happy to be
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here tonight welcome andrew by the way i i saw a couple days ago i didn't mention this on sunday's
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stream your debate on uh piers piers morgan with sank fantastic guys so you guys uh if you haven't
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seen it yet you can just check it out on youtube but very well he's worked pretty hard it was really
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funny yeah it was a definitely a very very interesting debate um going around the table once more what is
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everybody's current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's the
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longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead um i'm single i've been single
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for five months now um and my longest relationship was four years was that the one that ended uh five
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months ago yeah okay pretty fresh uh who broke up with who um he broke up with me was there a reason
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given or um he was a medical student so the last two years of our relationship was um long distance so he
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he got really busy and i was living in florida okay no cheating no okay okay so he's a medical
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student got busy uh five months for your relationship isn't it like i don't know if you guys know like
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isn't it the case that it takes half the length of the relationship to get over it is that has that
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been the case for any of you are you are you good yeah no i'm definitely over it yeah i think i read
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somewhere that it was like one month for every year that you were in the relationship i don't know
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wow that's pretty fast i would say that's pretty fast okay all right um and uh so you've been single
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for five months any have you been on any dates since then or anything yeah i've been on a few dates yeah
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any prospects any not really no yeah what would you say you're looking for um i don't think i'm
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necessarily looking for anything right now i'm just like you know if it comes like if the right
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person comes and that's it all right good times good times what about you so i am single for a
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year and a half my longest relationship was like six months all right was that the one that ended
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a year and a half ago yeah who broke up with who i did why um it was kind of like agree to disagree
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kind of thing uh we argued a lot and we couldn't come to a conclusion so we kind of just broke
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things off who started the arguments he did he'd start it okay was it on again off again or was it
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it was consistent okay so you ended it a year and a half ago it was a six month relationship
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and that's your longest okay and that's before you started your only fans yeah that ended okay were
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you thinking of starting no while okay and uh in the year and a half that you've been single have you
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been see have you seen anybody maybe for like a month two months anything like that you've been
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have you have you been celibate for a year and a half yes come on really yeah okay all right and uh
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so any dates or anything or no no dates no dates because i thought i think i saw on your tick tock you uh
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uh you've made it it's clickbait it's clickbait you posted a tick no no what you you posted the
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tick tock about uh you you were looking for announcing that you were looking for for someone
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to like slide into your dms or something how's that it's rage bait oh so you're not actually looking
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okay so you wouldn't even go on a date like if somebody asked you out i generally don't want a
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relationship right now okay so you're focused on business yeah interesting is there like a specific
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number that you're trying to hit before you're like okay now i'll date um until i fall off until
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you fall off fall off yeah and then i just quit the industry so like three three months or yeah you
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have like a year a year on it fall off typically like 20 23 24 or are you planning on just going as
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long as it possibly takes as long as i can milk it oh all right i mean what what if you don't fall
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off until like you're 60 then i'm single till 60. all right there you go uh what about you
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uh my last relationship was like high school like my junior year um i'm single um
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so you've been single for three years three four years i guess okay yeah all right longest
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relationship it was like six months he was like my only boyfriend all right he's the only boyfriend
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you've had okay in the three years you've been single uh anything shorter term like one two three
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months anything like that yeah i've had like some flings here and there yeah okay all right uh do you have
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a roster currently do i have a roster yeah i mean not really i mean no no so there's no guys in the
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picture currently not one okay maybe a few but it's not like a roster what's a few what's a few five
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like three three three okay did they know about each other of course not okay okay so it is a
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roster it sounds like a roster like i'm just going out you know are you are you like uh i i think this
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is kind of common like are you hooking up with one and the other two like just dating no you're not
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hooking up with any of them no okay but you're dating all of them yeah all right interesting okay uh
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uh what about you um i've been single for like two years and my longest relationship was two years as
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well is that the two-year relationship is that the one that ended two years ago yeah okay who broke up
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with him um i broke up with him why um just wanted to have a season of being single and learn more about
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myself and just experience life being single not in a bad way but just focus on myself did you want
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to find yourself um i just think it's important to like be single when you're young so that you can
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focus on yourself and learn what you're looking for and find somebody whose goals and paths and values
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align with yours okay all right what about you um i've been single for almost two years and my
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longest relationship was two years as well all right is that the one that ended two years ago yes
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who broke up with who i did why i just couldn't do it anymore like it was just too much for me it was
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just very stressful it started to get really toxic he was kind of insecure so it was just hard to handle
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okay uh and uh do you are you are you seeing anybody currently no i'm just nobody no prospects no
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nothing none they all just got cut off but for the new year oh okay when you say all how what are we
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talking about like two three four what did um maybe like four okay yeah like four and you were seeing
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them for a couple weeks couple months yeah each of them it was kind of like i was talking to one and
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then another one just came along and like you know since i'm single it's just like you know i'm
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gonna talk to both of you guys and then the third one came along the fourth one yeah all right oh and
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going back to you shelby really quick um are there any guys in the picture currently um i'm dating but
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no nobody's like nobody like serious right now do you have a roster no okay all right what about you
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i'm i'm currently single i've been single for about seven months um my longest relationship was
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six years is that the one that ended seven months ago or is that no it was like one when i was in my
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early 20s okay gotcha the six-year relationship who broke up with who i broke up with them the seven
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month relation or the relationship seven months ago who broke up with me okay uh what were the reasons
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for the what was the reason for the six-year one um he was 15 years older than me and i think
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i was maturing and i was i guess kind of changing or okay becoming my own person uh wait uh how old
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were you when you met him i was 19 and he you said 15 he was 15 older 15 years older so he was 30
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30 34 33 something like that yeah okay the math is just difficult for us uh it's been a while uh
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wait so uh okay you were with him for six years though and then i mean were there any issues in
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the relationship or just like oh he's old no it had i don't think he had anything to do with the
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age he didn't start balding or anything he was already starting when i met him oh no he was a great
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he's a great guy i just i think um because when you're 19 i think you're not quite sure what you
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want and um as i was getting older and more mature i realized that that person wasn't um
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someone i wanted to spend the rest of my life with how did you meet him him being so much older than
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you so i lived abroad for the last decade and i worked in the circus so i traveled a lot and um
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we worked for the same company and i met him through work perfect circus what do you what did
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you do in the circus i was a flying trapeze artist and an aerialist nice okay was he like a lion tamer
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no he was the general manager of like he was the gm okay was it an open relationship
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no that was closed okay um you said that there were i forgot exactly what you said but there were
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uh things that you were looking for that as you got older what were those like new things i guess
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that you were looking for that he wasn't fulfilling um well i guess because he was much older than me he was
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a little bit more set in his ways and i i guess i didn't completely agree with his ways yeah what
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can you give us like one or two examples like um what was the ways he was set in well i mean
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like when we go out and our friends are our friends are much older or like closer to his age and
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as a 19 year old is a little bit hard to relate and i was felt kind of excluded or
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like not quite understanding what was going on like at that maturity level okay was there ever
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a disagreement between who wanted kids and who no i think we both wanted kids actually i was engaged to
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him but then then i realized um i haven't i like didn't really date before him so i didn't really
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know what i wanted okay so you needed that freedom of exploration it seems like something similar yeah
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i didn't really explore much okay okay yeah do you ever open the story with like yeah i got into
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relationships and started sleeping with my boss at the circus like i mean that's kind of funny right
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it's kind of i mean it is kind of funny yeah no i never tell people that i mean okay but yeah i usually
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when i mention anything about about the circus um then i get like pretty flooded with questions
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because i know it's pretty unusual what okay question for for like any guy or girl looking to date
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somebody who works in the circus like is there a certain like stay away from the like the flame
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eaters like what what's the best oh yeah that's a good question okay um the guys that do like the
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the ones on the motorcycles like the the wheel of death that one and like oh we're like we're like
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the guys are in the motorcycle that one they're usually like adrenaline junkies and the one where is
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it the wheel of death where they're like spinning like and there's two like circles and it's there's
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two people like one at the top and it's spinning and they're on the motorcycle right um these guys are
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like jump roping oh okay those guys are also like adrenaline junkies so okay then yeah but what about
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like the the sword dudes or like the flame people are they cool or they're like yeah they're they're
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like tame were there dwarves no i didn't work in like that kind of circus it was mostly like the
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aerial performances no fire stuff no fire stuff sword stuff sword stuff yeah but i was more in like
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i was a i was a flying trapeze artist so we didn't it's weird like we don't like really hang out with who's
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at the top who's at the top of the echelon in the circus game to me it's the guys that do straps
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straps what is that it's like not like bondage no i mean like uh maybe not for dating but like
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or maybe i was just for career like who's the to me the guys that do straps straps yeah it's like
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an apparatus that has like two straps hanging and usually there's like a loop for your hands like
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your hands to go through or sometimes it's your feet um and it's just like pure strength so you don't
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usually see women doing it okay it's like a lot of it's like a more like a guy's apparatus got it uh
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what about your relationship status um it's like so complicated because i have a kid so my kid's dad
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i don't want to be in the relationship anymore but he wants to so i kind of i don't know i don't
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really talk to people but you don't want to be in the i don't want to be in there you guys are
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married or no we were like engaged but like when i was pregnant i found out like he cheated and then
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yeah i was on mother's day i caught him mother's day nice ah and you have just one kid yeah okay and
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do you share custody um well he like just moved out of my place and got his own place so okay you
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so you kicked him out because he he still wanted to be in the relationship okay yeah you kicked him
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out and you were with you were dancing while you were with him still um i met him at the club and
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then like he kind of got like mad about it so i like i stopped and like he took care of me and stuff
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like when i didn't work but like the whole like cheating thing i was like not for that because like
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you're cheating on me while i was pregnant and then i found out like for like the first four months
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of my kid's life he was like doing it so it was just a lot so i was like i can't do this anymore
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and plus like i'm older than him so i like i know what i want in life and like i don't think he really
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has it figured out so i'm kind of like i'm like very focused on what my goals are for this year and
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like how long have you been with him uh we were together for two years all right is that your
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longest relationship all right got it uh what about you i am in a relationship and my longest relationship
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was two years before this all right how long is this relationship eight months but we were best
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friends for two years before so it's kind of like a okay sure got it what about you uh i am
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single my last relationship was in 2018 we dated for four years um and i lived with him for a little
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bit all right two years and you said you've been single since 2018 yeah so like seven seven years ago
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i did talk to a boy on discord for two years that was interesting how did you meet him
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what forum so there's this uh discord server called daddy discord wait and it's uh it's called daddy
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discord daddy yeah um so it's a server with tons of public channels
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public tons of public voice channels where you have 10 people in a call and then you can go hop down to
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another one that could only have five all over the world um so we met in there um okay but you
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never met in person no actually wait so he kind of showed up to my house he like oh i blocked him
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so he did he live in the same town as you or did he come to your town in california so we went from
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california to michigan yeah it was wild it was wild all right uh but so you've been single for seven
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years since about 2018 uh have there have you had any short term anything with any guys in that time
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period um no i always keep an eye out though wait have you been celibate for seven years no oh you so
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you've had flings and stuff yeah when when's the last fling that you had yesterday last week um
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september september september okay is that over though yeah okay all right what about you um
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let's see here so the longest relationship that i've been in was about a year and eight months and
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it was very off and on we broke up quite a few times um i would say in total i've been in about three
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decently serious relationships i see okay and you are a virgin yes there we go 24 year old virgin yep
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it's good no four year old virgin adorable i've never met a virgin i'm curious you've never met a
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virgin before would any of you that's great a virgin going around the table would you date a virgin yeah
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yeah probably not yeah yeah yeah i don't think so
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uh yes because i'm also celibate so oh thank you
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wait what yes okay all right you okay so you're you're a virgin or are you just celibate i'm just
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celibate okay gotcha fantastic yeah very interesting all right uh now i know who to grill on this but
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no i'm just kidding please don't i'm totally all right uh andrew relationship status
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uh i'm married all right rock and roll cool so that's everybody's status uh we have a couple
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chats here that i'm gonna let come through uh touch my blade he sent this in uh what yesterday touch my
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blade it came in like right at the end of the stream so we missed it thank you for all your patronage
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yesterday man appreciate it we have a question here from
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much duke glock tape use the i donated two hundred dollars
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also what's the least amount of money you would buzz your hair off for
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wow okay i need to fix that i don't know why okay um so the question would you rather have a
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high profile job with no pay or clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars a year uh let's do that
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one first then we can do the other one starting with you michaela i don't i don't know you gotta
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pick you have if you have to pick one so the status or the money essentially
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um i i think i'd clean sewers for a hundred thousand okay i'd clean sewers for a hundred
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thousand okay yeah i'd clean the sewers okay well what's the pay of the other one like it's just
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i'll repeat terrible here it's would you rather have a high profile job with no pay so you make
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zero i pick or clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars a year pick the high so for example high
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profile job you might be like a you'd be a doctor or an attorney or something like that but you don't
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get paid anything and you work full-time okay you pick that what about you i'll do the sewers
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sewers okay i'd clean sewers sewers okay i don't know i feel kind of conflicted because i feel like
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if you have a high profile job you can like network and then get paid like doing some side things but
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if that's not an option then i guess clean sewers she found a loophole there's the loop yeah the loophole
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i don't know if i would pan out but what about you no actually i agree with her from the marketing
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perspective like you could definitely make money off of that just like make a tick tock or something
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i don't accept this loophole i reject the loophole it's you can't do the side hustle is the high
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profile job something where you're helping people because then it's a combination of money versus
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like aiding people like you said a doctor if you clean sewers you're helping people that's
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helping a lot of people that's a noble job you're picking for money though you said it's a hundred
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thousand dollars versus a high profile job no money that's the question so if it's a doctor
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versus sewers yes doctor sure doctor versus i would rather help people for no money than
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get paid a lot of money to clean cool what about you i do the high profile um because it's testing
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your brain i'd say all right it's fun brandon what about you i love money but i can't clean sewers for
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the rest of my life so yeah but you're gonna be broke brandon i dude it's sad you want kids you
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want a family i would i'd have to take the i'd have to take the status of it you're gonna so you
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just because i assume i'd be able i wouldn't be living on the street right you you i mean you're
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not making any money oh i so i'd have to live with my parents again you gotta live with your parents
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or you gotta marry you gotta marry sugar mama okay if i'm completely broke so i would i would have to
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clean the sewers i see okay oh and then really quick on this one he asked a second quick what's the
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least amount of money you would buzz your hair off for starting with michaela so buzz shorter
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than my hair just i mean see the sides the whole head that's how short um probably yeah
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i don't know this is a great question for 10k well done um 10k 10k i don't know 100 100k yeah
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probably okay probably 100k 100k i've been thinking about it actually so probably like 50k
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50k bare minimum okay least amount to buzz your hair off probably 100k 100k yeah 100k
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okay i used to be bald so no no was that when you were in the circus yeah i just wanted to see
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what i look like like bald so was it like a britney spears moment no that's what everyone
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always asks you know i just wanted to see like it's more aerodynamic i'm sure yeah no it's like velcro
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nice everything sticks so how much um i don't want to do it again so probably like a lot of i don't
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know how much 100k 100k all right what about you um yeah i've also shaved my head like twice in my
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life before so all right there you go how much right now probably like 50 000 i'll do it all
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right i agree with that 50k all right 200k because i wouldn't leave the house for two years
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also you can buy a wig brandon how much would you buzz your head i would personally take like
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five thousand dollars and then i would just wear one of those george washington wigs around for the
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entire time so yeah the price is pretty low i think my head would look pretty good shaved not terribly
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okay but i do like my hair that's cool all right uh we have two more coming through here oh andrew how
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much would you uh shave your buzz not shave buzz your hair off for if i could do it for free if it was
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hot enough outside this is totally unimportant to me someone was like here's five thousand bucks
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if you buzz your head i don't care it grows back yeah i've i've uh asked this question before and
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we've had some women who wouldn't even do it for a mil and i was like that's crazy because like you
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could get a really nice wig they're coping and they're full of it come on yeah there's no way
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it was like here's a million dollars cash if you buzz your head all these chicks would buzz their head
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immediately well i tried to explain it like okay let's think about it okay what's your job okay you make
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twenty dollars an hour uh you would have to work like 20 years to make a million dollars like you're not
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going to do it i guess if they're making tons off of of of though the hair is making the money but i
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guess they could get the wig they can still get the wig all right we have another another one from uh
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oh boy arch okay oh my god do you block take you this guy don't know if you came out oh my god
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i'm sorry president of the usa president of the usa plus if trump never became president
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president president i'm sorry powers germany 1w2 would you take that trade that's an amazing
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question here i'm gonna have to probably re-trigger your hand i'm not sure why all right were you guys
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able to understand that or okay here i'll play one thank you arch duke hopefully it doesn't do it
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again duke glockte views vi donated two hundred dollars if trump came out as trans would you accept
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him as the first woman president of the usa plus if trump never became president but it meant the
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axis powers germany won world war ii would you take that trade uh okay so first question we'll start
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with the first and then we'll come back to the second if trump came out as trans would you accept
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him as the first woman president of the united states michaela yeah sure okay that's very sure yeah
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that's good yeah unfortunately yes unfortunately yes okay that would be a great like step forward
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for women i think but what about you no no you wouldn't accept there's only two genders okay there
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you go what about you yeah you would accept him as the first woman president okay sure sure okay um i'll
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accept but it depends on what's his what's going to be like his stance moving forward with the trans
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people because right now it's like yeah very controversial so i would not you wouldn't why
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um well he's trans so okay sorry he would be trans so he would be considered a trans woman but i don't
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think that that would make him the first woman president okay all right what about you samson you
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wouldn't be the first woman president okay yeah that's a dude okay all right and then the second
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part um the second question is if trump never became president but it meant the axis powers so like
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germany italy japan uh they won world war ii would you take the trade what does that mean it's trying to
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figure out if you hate trump or not it's saying would you accept nazi germany versus trump exactly
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like so if if you could make the trade like wow you guys just oh my god no i get it you guys both made
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it worse how do we both make it work wait it's because you you uh i forgot what the term is you guys
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whatever okay you added other qualifiers oh now it's just more confusing you added other qualifiers
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which may warp warp people's responses but um so okay starting with michaela i guess
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she doesn't even know what she's answering yeah to be honest
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i don't know so it's like trump never became president trump doesn't but the entailment of that so
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he never became president but it meant like time machine germany won world war ii
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italy like he is the president so why i'm just gonna no but it's a hypothetical yeah so okay then
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i just accept him being president over that all right what about you i wouldn't take the trade
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wouldn't take the trade no wouldn't take wouldn't take the trade no no okay no no no no
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there you go all right you got her attention yeah no what okay all right i can't read it oh okay uh
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and then uh let's see we have lucas here andrew am i wrong looks like you've dropped a
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ton of weight looking good brother should be able to make it to newark
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new jersey debate will be fun watching ftfe get the sank snake treatment
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that's really funny because there's tons of people who are going over to a modern day debate
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who paid for tickets and they paid for uh the vip and everything else because they want to see me
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over there debating you should tell james that he should give all of that money to me and keep none of
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it since i filled his seats up just to piss him off it'll be good for james all right nice very cool
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very cool all right so uh let's see here we're gonna get into some of the pre-show actually let's
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do a react uh damien let's do that first twitter react do you know which one i'm talking about the
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very first one not the groups the first one oh yeah yeah let's get that pulled up all right guys so
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this tweet went viral it was like a month ago back in december but uh all right so first date ever
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tonight absolutely bricking it wish us luck ladies and gentlemen click the photo all right and so uh
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he he has flowers going on the first date with flowers you can x out of that uh and then the uh
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the tweet went viral though got like i don't know 100 million views on twitter people were debating
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whether uh in today's day and age like is it kind of lame to bring a girl flowers uh so going around the
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table what do you guys think do you think uh it's kind of sweet for a guy to bring girls flowers on
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the first date is he maybe kind of trying too hard doing too much a little extra starting with mikayla
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what do you think um i i feel like it depends on how long attractive the guys no okay how like how
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long how how long i've been talking to him like beforehand say you met him on discord if
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no flowers no flowers no flowers okay disregard the discord thing what about you i think it's really
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sweet okay if he brings flowers okay um i don't really care for flowers maybe if there's like money
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wrapped around them all right what about you uh i would love flowers i'm curious of why you said you
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wouldn't like flowers um i feel like like if i've known him for a while like we were friends
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beforehand and then he was like okay i want to take you on a date and he brought flowers i feel like
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that's fine but i don't know somebody that i like don't know
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bringing like i would feel weird because i don't have anything for him either so
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like it'd be weird if he brought me something and i didn't have anything
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do you feel like it needs to be transactional like why can't somebody just give you something
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just for the sake of giving yeah i guess that's true that's fair enough okay i think it's really
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sweet i love flowers like it's better than him coming empty-handed all right yeah i think it's sweet
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i'll accept them mm-hmm yeah i'd appreciate flowers i think that's really cute it shows that he made
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effort so yes mm-hmm yes but i think they should gift house plants instead they live longer i agree
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with that actually yeah there you go brandon what do you think flowers no flowers i have never brought
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flowers on a first date but i don't know if i was feeling really romantic it might happen but we would
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have had to have talked for a while before that i i have a funny first date yeah really quick
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before i have you go into that and has anybody here gotten flowers on a first date yes yeah
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multiple times michaela wow now yeah yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yes yeah yes no no damn somebody
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help out uh oh i'm mikaela yeah help them out with some flowers or some shit i've actually
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i've you've gotten flowers a girl brought me flowers i've done that and then a girl a different
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girl this way it wasn't the first date though she brought me flowers i don't know it's like a couple
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days in but first date a girl brought me flowers i was like okay cool did it what do i do it go any
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further than that uh did it go and what was your original reaction to that uh i mean it was like
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endearing but it was like but then you were you carrying around the flowers for the whole day
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i didn't know what to do so you were just carrying them around uh no well we stopped somewhere so it
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was like yeah i wasn't carrying them though he put them in his hair yeah i put one in my
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right here yeah men deserve flowers too yeah that's right i think women should bring flowers
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on not the men the women should bring flowers on the first date you got something shelby go ahead
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um a guy brought me well he brought me cat treats on the first date because i have cats and that's kind
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of what sparked our conversation so he was really i thought it was really sweet he brought cat treats
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for my cats okay yeah i think that that's that's valid he brought like meow mix no yeah they were
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actually like from amazon and they were like amazon wrapped and like in a gift oh okay that's cool
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there was like a lot of thought put into it wow good times yeah good times all right i received a road
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bike on a first date nice because they found out that i was training for a triathlon i thought you don't
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date the like the biker guys though wrote like a road bike like a triathlon yeah i got mixed i got
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my wires crossed there those are expensive those are like it was brand new or it was okay actually it
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was used it was like his ex-wives or something oh wow very very romantic that's good yeah first date
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wait how bad would it be i definitely didn't do this so i told you guys how on the first date a
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girl brought me flowers on the first date what if i re-gifted those to another like another girl
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that i was going i was going on the first date that's something you have to live with i don't
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think it would last is that valid that would be crazy i'm just saying what what if i did that i mean
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she wouldn't know i guess you could get away with it if it lasts till then you know like if somebody
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gives you a toaster and you don't need a toaster you just gift it to somebody else it's like
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i don't need flowers what if you started dating and then you know years down the line you have
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to tell her that those flowers that she thought were so sweet were actually from another girl oh
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i thought you meant what do i say to the to our children to the first girl who gave me the flowers
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yeah i would tell our kids that yeah your mom gave me flowers and then i gave them away to another girl
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that's really romantic actually it'd be more romantic if i was dating the other woman who i gave
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the flowers too because then like i picked her over the flower girl
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all right tough crowd how about your mother that's fantastic yeah uh were we going around
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the table on the flower thing oh shelby did you have something or did you already i already talked
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oh you already it was the cat treats oh the cat treats okay god andrew your thoughts on the flower thing
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should a guy bring a girl flowers on the first date andrew
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i mean i guess if he wants to i don't really see well again though i don't really see why
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women in modernity deserve any type of chivalry i don't i still don't understand that
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i still haven't heard a compelling argument for the idea that for some for some reason you deserve
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equality and status it's like that's not how that works so uh i i don't think so i don't think the
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men should probably bring women anything on a first date to be honest with you i think it's a bad idea
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is that how you got your wife by not giving her flowers
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yeah w w's in the chapter andrew and he's the only one here who's married
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yeah boom how about that how about them maybe if you didn't want flowers you'd be married
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i'm 21 so i would rather not be married right now thank you i mean it's yeah well i mean if you keep
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demanding flowers it's gonna be 41. i never demanded anything i've never demanded anything i've just
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had very sweet boyfriends what are your cat's name's gonna be anyway fluffy
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i don't really think it's smart to have a cat on a boat do you think you gotta give people names like
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chuck you're kind of like chuck and fred you're gonna give your cat people names you're gonna be
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people named cats that's a very great question please ask me in five years when i'm 26 and
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apparently washed up 20 who said 26 what are you talking about you're saying that because i'm 21 and
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not married that's you know me thinking that flowers are sweet are the reason for that that's
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idiotic that does not make any sense i'm not saying i demand flowers i'm saying that
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a gentleman i know i know that a perfectly good joke i know a perfectly good joke can hurt your
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feelings for no particularly good reason even though i'm clearly kidding but perhaps you can
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take a take a breath and actually respond to my argument instead so here's here's my action here's
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my actual position my actual position is that chivalry gives women additional status that men do not
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receive therefore if women want egalitarianism or equality they don't deserve additional status
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you see that's my actual status i understand what you're saying i want to understand it further
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so what do you mean by status okay well uh men get on the lifeboats last men are expected to protect
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women men are expected to not hit women back men are expected to go to frontline warfare and combat and
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draft women or not the list is endless in fact of the statuses which women get in society that men do not
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do to a uh this idea of chivalry which is hundreds of years old now which has carried over when women
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were given this special status in society because men had the authority now that men do not have that
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authority and women are equal why do women deserve this chivalric status why do they deserve it i don't see
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why they do so you believe that kind gestures like flowers are comparable to front lines in the war
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can you just repeat back what i said so i know that you got it i heard what you said what you were
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saying is that then repeat it back to me so that i know what that i then i know you understand what
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i'm saying okay that's my actual position on this how i understood it which you can correct me if i'm
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wrong in my understanding was that you see the fact that you know men have a lower position in society
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compared to women right when it comes to the fact that women are not going to be drafted that men have
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other you know issues that they have to deal with that women are kind of put back for women do not
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you know have to be expected to let their man first get on the lifeboat if there's you know of ship that's
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sinking i understand what you're saying but i don't understand how a kind action of somebody giving you
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flowers is comparable to the issues that men have to go right on a day-to-day basis i guess men are kinder
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than women if you expect that men then will bring you flowers and you don't i don't expect it i do
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think that that is you know fair to say that it is a kind gentleman to bring you flowers i can agree
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it would be a kind woman who brought and i have also brought yeah i've also brought my boyfriend
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flowers that there's no argument you guys be competing over who's kinder then and on the first
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date shouldn't the woman be bringing the man flowers to show how kind she is that's fair i have done that
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on a first date it's a respect thing it's it's showing how many times on the first date have you
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brought flowers versus you have flowers brought to you okay well so you're just meaner than all the
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men you date aren't you just say andrew by my own logic i'm meaner than all of the men i date because
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i don't bring them flowers and they bring me flowers there's different ways to show affection
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rather than just gifts you can show affection through acts of service whether that's you know cooking
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them a meal whether that's you know setting up the date itself whether that's you know them teaching
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you a new skill you teaching them a new skill i've taken people on dates where i've taught them how to
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ride motorcycles or to sail or that sounds like an exchange i thought you were talking about acts of
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kindness so if you're talking about acts of kindness and not an exchange and you say it's a
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very kind thing for people to show up and give me flowers well wouldn't it be and it's a very kind
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thing if you show up and give them flowers then why is it that more men are being more kind to you
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than you are to them can you explain that why is it a competition between who's kinder why isn't it
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you're the one who made it a competition because you said it's an act of kindness and gentlemanly men
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should do it okay i was saying that i was saying that it was kind when men do do this you know when
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men do give flowers that is an act of generosity that is an act and more men have brought you flowers
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than you've brought men flowers so therefore by that logic men are way kinder to you than you are to
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men yeah so do i have to can answer my question can you answer my question by your logic if it's
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kind to bring flowers and more men bring you flowers and you bring men flowers then men are
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kinder to you than you're kind to men is that correct or not correct it's flawed logic oh okay how
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because it's not whether or not you know i brought them flowers or they brought me flowers it's them doing
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something that is kind towards me right which yes in that scenario that would be them being kinder
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on the first date however i have not dated that many men and i have not you know exchanged flowers
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with that many men that's not like something oh it's a tuesday i'm gonna go on a date so i can get
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flowers like that is an evil intention to just use men for a purpose like that yes have men given me more
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flowers than i've given them sure does that mean that i am cruel because i don't know what that has
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to do with anything i'm just utilizing your metric i'm not saying you're an unkind person i don't
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understand i'm just saying that men are really kinder to you i'm not saying you're an unkind
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person i'm not saying you're mean i'm not saying you're cruel i'm not saying any of those things
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i'm just saying that if it is the case that flowers equals kindness and kind act and more men bring
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you flowers than you bring them then they started acting kindly towards you then you're acting towards
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them that i can that i can agree with they were kinder to me in the beginning that is fair that is
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a fair assessment now does that mean that you know what you're saying is that i you you started with
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you know i am crueler to men than men are to me that men are kinder to me than i am to them
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that's not a fair assumption you know but are you saying that they did a kinder gesture to
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no what i'm saying is very simple is that if you if you demand these additional statuses
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in society like men have the chivalry i don't demand the gentlemanly men open my car door
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and gentlemanly men will bring me flowers gentlemanly men will pay for the first day
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with respect hold on hold on you gotta let them finish then you can respond and then i'll let you
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talk i promise just relax okay gentlemanly men will do all of these things for me right that's very
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nice of them to do all those things for that you what are you doing for them well you're not doing
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anything because well that's what gentlemanly men do so you're putting yourself at
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at a status you're giving yourself additional status that men don't have and what i'm saying is
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like why the fuck should they do that that sounds really stupid if women are indeed equal to men
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why waste their time makes no sense that's fair and that is not how i am you know if men are doing all
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these things right i know how to fix i i live on a sailboat right so i've learned how to fix my boat
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i've created this future for my future partner where we can travel around the world and i will be able to
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fix the engine which i just did last week i had to fix my heat exchanger i can do my own septic my
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plumbing i can do my own woodworking i have fixed many things on my boat and i'm continuing to learn
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those skills so that it is an equal partnership now you're saying men are expected to do all these
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things i'm not expecting a man to do all these things and i just sit back and act like some helpless
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damsel in distress you can do your own woodworking yes i can i actually am a woodworker
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yeah do you use a wood lathe no i do not use woodlay how do you how do you you don't use a
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wood lathe do you use a router no i do not i have a you don't use a router what do you use to do
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woodworking i use a hand saw or a circular saw i use how do you act well how are you working the
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wood with a circular saw what are you talking about that's not woodworking that's wood cutting
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that's not woodworking do you know what we're working yes i do i do woodwork on a sailboat it's
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different it's okay i you've i don't know what you want from me you just i'm just very confused
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i thought you were a woodworker i don't know that's not my profession but it is something that
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i'm learning how to do in order to take care of my sailboat which i can then provide that lifestyle
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for my partner so just because i don't what okay okay i've had to fix multiple things on my boat
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right like i had to create a table okay so i had to learn how to um take the wood and sand it to the
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right shape right i had to learn how to cut things i had to use different saws i had to use you know
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different um like linseed oil right to to protect it i've had to use different um you know i've had to
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basic maintenance basic basic woodworking is my knowledge so far i never said i was an expert
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i'm saying i'm learning yeah i mean that that's not even basic woodworking it's just basic maintenance
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but yeah i mean fair enough i'm just saying uh i'm just curious like i'm just asking when you say i do
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woodworking how you do woodworking what do you do woodworking with i'm just curious that's all okay
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yeah and i'm learning still it's not like i'm a carpenter you know like i don't i'm not that level
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i'm in marketing like i'm learning how to do these things on my own now if you ask me about septic i
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can tell you a lot because i had to fix mine last month but you know it's it's not like i'm a
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professional so do i expect men to do everything for me no i'm learning how to take care of myself
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and so that i can also help my partner understand and learn and take care of these things as well
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i don't expect men to save me i do appreciate a man who is a gentleman but that doesn't mean that i am
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expecting every man to care for me like a child you know and i don't like you agree with me then
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that there's no good reason for men to give women but flowers is a gesture of kindness that's a
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gesture that's a gesture of respect it's not an issue of you can't show people respect unless you
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open their door and give them flowers i never i never said that i expect everything isn't it a better
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bigger sign of respect to treat you exactly as an equal wouldn't that be the biggest sign of respect
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i do agree with that and so like i said i've given this evil status of toxic femininity that's where
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they demand additional status in society that they don't deserve when we should be treating them like
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the equals they demand we try so so what is your definition of toxic femininity what what do you
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mean by that what is you know a demand for additional statuses based on old chivalric codes that are
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undeserved when you at the same time demand equality so i would say toxic femininity is the demand of
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schrodinger's feminists who claim here's a schrodinger's feminist you are both the biggest
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victim on planet earth while at the same time the most badass entitled or badass woman on planet earth
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uh and depending on what circumstance you're in you'll use either one of those either you're
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super oppressed or you're you're badass that's schrodinger's feminist that's fair what toxic
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thought femininity is toxic femininity is just saying look uh if you're demanding additional
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statuses in society while you're demanding equality in society then you're not demanding
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equality in society you're demanding status i i agree with that and and you know back to your
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original point of the flowers i said that it was a kind gesture i've also given men flowers so i do
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think that you know there are certain things that are conflicting when it comes to you know feminism
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and you know wanting to be treated higher than rather than equal because feminism originally was for
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equality i do agree with you there um and and that's not a point that i'm arguing with you on
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obviously like i i believe feminine femininity and feminism you know in the olden day sense is
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better than what it's turned into i believe that you know if it wasn't it was just it was it was even
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worse it was even women imagine this like can you imagine that women and this is the truth women had
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serious societal status and now they're they're told to compete with men it's stupid it's like it's
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dumbest thing ever they had real societal status and they took all that status away from themselves
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so that they could be equal to men who they can't be equal with it's the dumbest thing i've ever heard
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in my life what is status if not freedom why would you trade status for freedom i believe that you
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should want to be able to be your own person now the the time freedom to do what freedom to be an
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individual in the olden days you had to be tied to a man you had to be tied to a husband
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now is that me saying oh i hate men no i plan on having a husband sometime okay
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there's no escaping being tied to men there's no escaping that like everything the whole building
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you're in the streets you walk on the cars you drive everything that you do is tied to men there's
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no there's no escape right and there should there should be you know a relationship that is equal
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between man and woman i'm not saying that you should cut out men i'm not saying that women should
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be lower or higher i'm saying that there should be an equal level between men and women men and
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women have different places in society that they are why should they be equal why why should they be
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equal because we are both human beings because we both have equality that is like saying that you
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should treat one race different than the other you shouldn't treat a man versus a woman because
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you're treating i'm back up back up back up back up okay you wouldn't be treating one race differently
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than another right you'd be treating one sex right because you do agree with me that there's different
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races who are the same sex who are women and men so so what men still have authority in society
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right i'm sorry i'm sorry to cut you off in the middle of your long diatribe just want to clarify
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if men have status or have authority in society and women have status in society that's fine but if
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you want to trade that for equality you just you can't you can't bitch when you get it that's my point
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what is the difference between you know treating somebody differently based on their race versus
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based on their gender there should not be a difference we are all human beings so you should
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treat us equal based on that that in of itself is the basis of humanity it's just an assertion we don't
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treat each other equally at all men don't treat each other equally even slightly we have to we compete
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with each other every single day seven days a week uh every single day of the year men are in
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competition hang on hang on can i respond to what you just said yes sir if not then make sure that
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you give me the high sign say i'm not done yet and i'll be quiet so if you want to continue go ahead
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and finish and then i'll respond go ahead i was just going to say that maybe my viewpoint isn't how
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society is actually based but it's a utopian viewpoint i i believe that people should be treated equal
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not based on their gender not based on their race not based on anything else besides that they are
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a human being so you may speak now that was all i wanted and that's and that's fine to treat people
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equally if that's what your value is okay but then you can't ask for additional statuses because that
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wouldn't be equal that's the point that's the purpose and the thing is is that women do ask for
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additional statuses so here would be true equality you don't lower the training standards for police
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officers because they're women you don't lower the training standards for soldiers because they're women
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you don't lower the standards for flight school you don't lower the standards for any of these various
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things that men are clearly much better at than women because they're women that would be true
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equality when you come back to me and give me that then i'll believe that women don't want
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additional statuses in society but right now sure seems like they do i believe that's fair and you
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know my viewpoint might not be the same as every other woman in society but i do think that we should
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be treated equally do you know what that would actually entail i do understand what that actually
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would entail yes sir you would yes sir i do understand if a woman do you think that if a
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woman smacks a guy that he should turn around and belt her across the mouth okay so smacking and belting
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is not the same but i do yeah i know but there is a difference in strength it's okay for me to belt him
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right there is a difference in strength between the average man and the average woman that is not
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something that is disagreeable based on scientific evidence i'm not going to argue with that now i do
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think that you know if you are in this utopian society where you are treating everyone equally
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then that would be a situation that would occur now is that equality no because the man might be
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stronger than the woman now that's still equality listen we if weaker men attack stronger men which
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happens all the time nobody backs an eye if the stronger man beats up the weaker man so how is it that
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you can logically say because women are weaker they then deserve the privilege of being able to hit men
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without men hitting them back if the woman's hitting him hang on hang on if the woman's hitting him
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at full strength for instance and he hits her back at full strength that would be equality
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i mean i don't conzone violence like that domestic or i mean that's nice it has nothing right but i
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understand what you're saying and i actually you know i do i do think that that would be you know
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considered equality in that sense now do i think that it's okay to hit a woman do i think that you
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should go around smacking women no but you know if you're saying okay a woman is being aggressive
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towards a man and then a man is aggressive back that would be considered equal is it equal no there
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is a difference in strength there you know and there's a difference between every human being on
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planet earth that's true so no matter what there's always going to be somebody in the fight who's
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stronger than the other person we don't say that you can't defend yourself because the other person is
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weaker so the thing is is like if you really want equality and you want to know what that entails
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that entails that women have to get screamed at by their bosses just like men do and they can't
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complain about it and whine and cry about it it means that they're going to have to deal with coarse
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jokes and things like this just like men do and they can't cry about it they can't whine about it
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it means that they actually get treated like equals it means that when women put their hands all over men
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and nobody bats an eyelash like at a party or something like this and nobody says that that sexual battery
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that men need to begin to say that it is because that's what women say so the thing is is like
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true equality i don't even think that if that women want it i don't believe you i literally don't
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believe that women actually want it i don't even think they know what it entail what the entailment of
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it is you don't have to believe me i do think it's wrong for a woman to sexually harass a man just
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as it's wrong for a man to sexually harass a woman just as it's wrong for a man to hit a woman and
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a woman to hit a man i don't believe that violence of any source is okay i don't think that you know
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assaulting anyone is okay I don't care what your gender is or what you believe that it's not
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are you gonna start advocating that women get drafted you know it's funny because I was planning
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on signing up for the military after college that's not what I asked you you got to answer
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the question though yes yes if that's equality you're gonna start you say so I can expect you
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in protest soon demanding that women be drafted I'm not the type of person to protest but are you
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going to demand that men also have a say over abortion and that they are also allowed to have
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a say in what happens with what they're doing I am Christian so I don't really believe that
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abortion is a right that somebody should have so yes I do think that if it's a male and a female's
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you know it's sperm and egg right that does give the man some sort of you're Christian but believe
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in equality it's that's a patristic faith it's patriarchal okay there well there's no okay I
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mean I'm sorry who's who is God the father the mother God the father or the mother God yes God
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is father right it was Jesus did Jesus Christ incarnate as a woman or a man as a man he incarnated
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as a man and are priests referred to as father and are women allowed to be priests so that's that's a
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different you know strain I I do believe that women can be in a place of you know they can hold
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a place in in a religion so that's so clergy can represent the Christ head even though the Christ
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head incarnated as a man that makes sense to you I think that God speaks through both men and women
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here hold on but can can uh just just move things along a little bit can women be clergy
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and what's your denomination yeah I'm not denominational I just follow the bible so I I
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don't think that that pertains to me I I'm not qualified enough to answer that question that's
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not my denomination okay well I just ask you one quick one then go ahead um were there so we have
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God the father we have Jesus Christ who was incarnate was there a uh can you point to me to a female
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apostle what was your name um I mean there were people that followed Jesus that were women there's
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many signs of that in the bible so what was what was the apostle's name there was Mary Mary um what
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she went Esther yep Esther yeah Esther okay yeah have you seen the chosen there's plenty of women
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you know that's that's biblically accurate as well as they you know could do so there are plenty of
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women referenced in the bible that did follow Jesus that did you know drop everything and follow him
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and and he that's one of the things about Jesus is that he was fair to both men and women you know he
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he allowed both to follow him and that was something that really really pissed off you know the the Jewish
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rabbis was the fact that he did treat women well in comparison to where and what they were treated as
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so I mean he allowed a woman who had had um multiple husbands to follow him so and and and to
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give you some context I wasn't raised Christian you mean the woman that she said he said to go and sit
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no more uh yes yes at the water at the fountain or at the um the well sorry I I also I became
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Christian a year ago I wasn't raised with Christianity so you know I don't want to miss one I just want to
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make sure I got this right though so we have it on record that you think that Mary and Esther were
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apostles I'm not saying that they were apostles right there's the 12 apostles which were men I
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understand that but I am saying they're followers of Christ okay that was what I was saying so why
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that's not my what what was my question though I understand what your question was you asked if
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there were any females that were apostles and there were not apostles yeah but that does not mean that
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God does not speak to women or speak through women as well and so in Paul when Paul says that women are
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not allowed to teach in church he was just lying there's a few things in the Bible that I'm still
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coming to grasp and that I don't fully understand so I cannot give you my best answer on that because
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again I've only been Christian for a year and it's something that I've been having to go through
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you know I've been reading the Bible and so no I can't answer your question with all honesty and with
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you know something backing that when I myself am a new why did you laugh when I said that
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Christianity was a patristic and patriarchal faith I don't get that you were like you were like you
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laughed at it and I'm like why are you laughing it's a patriarchal faith it always has been it's
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from the father it's the fact that Jesus was kind to both men and women I'm not saying I'm talking
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about being kind patriarchs are very kind what's wrong with what is I'm a patriarch therefore I'm mean
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like is that the entailment of patriarchy is that they're just like mean to women he treated he okay
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he treated women with respect right there were women who followed him that had a very vital role
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within his discipleship and that's what I'm saying there now I I might not completely understand what
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you're asking me then if you want to reclarify the question uh yeah uh you ready uh so in Christianity
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men have the authority yeah what if they're the apostles they don't have the authority because
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God needed to lead them because they didn't have their own discernment what's happened I when I read
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Corinthians and it's I think Paul's in that it what I read is not it said don't marry um that you're
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better off on your own is what I got out of it but that may be the men are the apostles because
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they need more help from God like hold on Andrew before I have you address that we didn't get
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an answer to his question what was his question again well he he made this well I don't know if
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he made a statement is that uh Christianity it's patriarchal agree or disagree
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define patriarchal go ahead from the father it is God is the father so yes I would agree with you there
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it's patriarchal it's patriarchal it's from the father from the father meaning the father has the
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ultimate authority I do and then we work with Jesus Christ who is the ultimate authority right
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and so the Christ had the teacher the person who is leading your church this person is a representation
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of Christ on earth that's why you can't have a woman be a be a priest or a pastor or whatever it
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is that you consider clergy to be so the thing is is that ultimately the view of egalitarianism is not
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compatible with the view of Christianity it can't be are you a Christian yes are you a Christian yeah
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okay so then I mean genuinely like from my heart could you educate me on this topic then because
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like I said I can we can't blog the entire podcast with it down but you can definitely reach out and I
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can move you over to resources that can help you and assist you in this for sure because you've
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been sold a hell of a bill of goods can you give me just a summary of what you believe you know
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when it comes to the patriarchal yeah I'll do it super quick so that Brian can move the show on
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right thank you because we've been we've been bogged down here so uh very quickly God he's the
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father okay and you believe in the trinity I take it father son holy ghost all that stuff right okay
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great so Jesus Christ he's one part of the Godhead well not part but he's one person of the garden
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Godhead then the father one person of the Godhead uh when you the worshiper you're worshiping Jesus
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Christ you are actually worshiping God right God the representation of God on earth with this
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case Jesus Christ the Christ head is the priest in a marriage this isn't literally this is how it's
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stated in marriage right the husband is the representation of the Christ head and the woman
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the body of Christ the man has ultimate authority in the relationship has to be that way that is
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under the divine authority which Christians believe that is the representation so all of these are
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representations of what it is that Christians believe doesn't in the bible it say that men and
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women are equally yoked yeah but yeah so they are and they are fully yoked so the thing is is that
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just because a man is in authority and a woman is in this submitted position doesn't mean they're not
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fully yoked together that's I mean that's just silly remember we have 2,000 years of church history
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governing this we we know how marriage is always worked this idea of egalitarianism and equality is
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brand new and the thing is is that if it was true equality you might have a point but women don't demand
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real equality they demand higher social status and that men have lower social status and then they call
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that equality and that to me is uh is bizarre and it has nothing to do with Christianity at all
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all right we'll move it on then uh that was an inch that was an interesting back and forth
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uh spirited back and forth all right we have a chat from Lucas here Lucas says wife brought
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homemade traditional Greek cookies on our first date which by the way was at Panera
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gotta give her credit for elite level game to this day I asked her if she she would have given them
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to me if I sucked all right there you go traditional Greek cookies thank you Lucas W's guys W's in the
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chat for Lucas for all the support uh we also here I want to do a quick shout out to a couple people
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chat here from uh meet the Kaiser uh meet the Kaiser what's up Brian glad to see you back Andrew good job
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on peers good to see you too look at all these lovely Asian ladies tonight we got Chinese Japanese and even
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trapeze uh there you go okay have have fun everybody cheers all right Kaiser W's in the chat for Kaiser
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thank you man do appreciate it oh boy um this is going to be okay I'll let this one come in it's a
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little uh live laugh toaster bath donated two hundred dollars question for the ladies answer honestly
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please would you send 10 innocent men to prison for three years each if it prevented one guilty man
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from uh from one guilty man from walking free who graped a woman yeah okay all right we'll do this
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one quick then um starting with you Michaela no I wouldn't send innocent people okay no it's not
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their crime no no no no no no can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table all right and you
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might okay sorry where did we we said no no okay all right very reasonable all right that's great all
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right there you go uh let's see here we're gonna get into uh some of the pre-show notes here we have
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why don't we start with hmm who do we start with uh we'll start with it's my Lynn right yes okay uh
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all right you said you haven't dated much uh and then let's see you've been you were uh you've been
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single for seven months when you say you haven't dated much what do you mean every time I try to date
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I end up in a relationship oh okay oh how many dates how many different guys have you dated I guess
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like definitely less than 10 okay I've been in like a relationship since I was like 19 with like
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a month or two of being single so this is like your longest wow like I'm always in a relationship
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I don't know why okay but you've been single for seven months so this is like a pretty long break
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yeah this is the longest all right and uh you said that you're not so enthusiastic about dating
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because of past disappointments uh you said to be specific you feel like you tend to be the caregiver
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or you end up with guys who use you uh when you say use you use you how
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I like they're like broke and then I pay for a lot of stuff and then okay I also like
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cook and clean for them and then buy their clothes and yeah stuff like that I have a question for you do you
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think that the fact that you've run into that in multiple relationships says something about who
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you are definitely I think it's um also cultural because I was raised like in a very strict Japanese
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household just by my dad and so my sister and I took on a lot of like the more traditional female
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roles and so in my adult life I kind of it carried on and I think it doesn't translate that well
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in American culture so pretty much you it sounds to me like you're taking on the masculine role
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correct I think so yeah okay maybe both wait when you say doesn't translate well what do you mean
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well because what doesn't translate well the like in the Japanese culture um
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like the women are a lot more traditional and they're a lot more docile and it's like a culture
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I think most Asian cultures where um you're not supposed to like it's a sin to embarrass your family
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and it's like it's a cut it's a culture where you serve
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and I lived in also in China and like in Thailand and it's pretty much like that everywhere I've been
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surf or serve serve serve yes I surf too though yeah yeah okay gotcha and so what what would that look
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like so my previous relationship so I would do the cooking well I was also a chef so I was cooking
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doing a lot of the cleaning um you know I remember like one of the last arguments we had was um
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I didn't butter his toast how dare you and I I just said I'm sorry I I was busy I'm like I'm
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I usually leave the house before him because I I work a lot and I have to leave at six did he scold you
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yeah I mean he made like a joke but it's kind of like I kind of do a lot of stuff and now you're
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like like I'm sorry I forgot to put so it's so it's did you then did you then butter the toast
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though what did you butter the toast uh I think I like handed him the butter and I was like you
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could do it yourself today oh man it sounds to me he's a lucky guy really he is did you say that
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you were starting to take over the financial side of things as well too yeah I also helped him
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financially so you're saying that you were so traditional but then at the same point at the
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same time like it sounds like you have a previous history of dating just weak men in general that have
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no okay I tried something different it doesn't sound like they're worthy of that behavior true
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well okay so in the past I have like a history of dating like um like first responders and like
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military and so and that didn't work out so I met this guy and I he was very different so I
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gave it a shot you know I thought maybe I should try something different and um
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yeah I don't I don't want to take on those roles interesting okay so you have you have been in a
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relationship where you were finding yourself to be like the financial supporter almost but in most
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of your relationships it sounds like you were the traditional woman yeah very interesting and have you
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been in multiple relationships where the guy was weaker and you found yourself almost having to take
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on the masculine role um so prior to this guy um so I just moved back to the states four years ago
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and um when I started dating here in the US or maybe it's like LA um I've noticed that there was a lot
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more men like that interesting versus like when I was dating abroad interesting I wonder what's
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different about California I'll just go out and say it I really think that there's a huge problem
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I mean a little bit more in democratic states but I think America is just full of
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men that are incredibly weak and I talk to a lot of women who say that they're they find themselves
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in similar situations to that and they can't even fulfill the traditional role because the man is almost
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fully reliant on them to the point where they're becoming masculine and they're fulfilling the masculine
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duties to a point where the woman can't be fully feminine I think that's I think that's absolutely
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ridiculous I think when men are not in their masculine um
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us as women will have to overcompensate for the lack of interesting and did you with the guys that
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you've run into this problem with have you noticed that they tend to lean a certain way politically
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yes so do they tend to lean left yes very interesting all right so men that are lacking
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on the masculine side of things tend to lean left and then you find yourself going above and beyond
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yeah interesting and are you looking for like a long-term relationship are you trying to get married
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yeah I'm trying to get married and have kids I'm 33 my eggs are dying okay there you go
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why you should have buttered that fucking toast wait but didn't you say you you dated like uh first
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responders like you said you dated EMS uh military guys were those guys a bit more on the conservative
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side or they tend to be okay then she came to California there's not there's not so good
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where are you I live near Santa Monica oh okay like Orange County is pretty conservative
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anyways whatever um okay and uh let's see here um you also said that you think you might be too
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generous or too nice is that yeah I think it's um again cultural like I feel like um the way I was
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raised it's like to please others I don't know do you feel that like an Asian culture it's like
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you you're like born to serve others and then if you're in a society where everyone's serving others
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it makes sense but when you're in a society where like most people don't view life in that way it
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makes it feels like um we're getting taken advantage of do you 100 percent yeah in America you're really
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encouraged to go out on your own and do your own thing and do things for yourself so wait you also
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grew up in a similar culture first generation okay gotcha first generation very interesting okay and what did
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what do they think of your work oh I don't really talk to them they don't talk no do they not know
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about it uh I'm pretty sure they know about it but I don't talk to them oh you don't talk to them
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anymore you guys had falling out yeah very interesting okay uh but so going back to this you said you
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think you might be too generous or too nice my personal position on this I don't think there's such a thing
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as too generous or too nice or too submissive like I'm never gonna look at a beautiful woman who does
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everything that I want and go you know what you do too much of what I say what I want I'm gonna go
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yeah I wish you would just fight with me a lot yeah I'm gonna go break up with you I'm gonna
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break up with you and go get some disagreeable chick no no silent I I mean I I can definitely
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see how in certain situations when when women feel maybe like they don't feel like they're appreciated
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for what they do or like the guy isn't holding up his end of the deal like in your case yeah
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so like you're you said you're more too generous too nice maybe submissive whatever it is but like
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you're kind of uh when it came to the finances it sounded like in some of these relationships
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you were providing and I don't know what these guys were up to in terms of what they were bringing
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if you guys were living together like would you split the bills and stuff with these guys or did
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you live with any of them I did um we would split the rent but that's pretty much it don't let American
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society corrupt you on that because if you find the right man that's worthy of that you you have
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to be ready to go all in because if you spend too much time single you're gonna you're gonna get
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corrupted and you're not going to be able to fully put out when that person does come in front of you
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what makes you think that they're worthy of that man what makes me think that they're worthy yeah that
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they're worthy of the man well I mean ultimately this happens all the time right yeah people are
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like you find a man who's worthy when this happens it's like why do you why is that even presupposed
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like maybe you're just fucking awful you know what I mean like that there's this other possibility
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and women that often just will not look at this possibility like maybe these men many of them
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are perfectly fine and you're just fucking awful like that could also be a possibility right
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you're not saying that about yeah I think I think you're just putting out are you saying
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that in general in general right i mean it could just be you too wait what did you did you say sorry
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did you ask me i mean it could but i maybe you suck maybe you're terrible maybe i suck but i i don't
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i mean i don't think he's just he's just mad because you didn't butter there was the butter like he's
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that there was the butter incident was alarm dropped the ball on that i i just looked at
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your uh tick tock you said something about lesbian energy what what's that about people think you're
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a lot people think i'm a lesbian all the time you have broad shoulders i mean i worked in this circus
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and i like you've got tattoos i run ultra marathons i'm just really active what do you mean she's fit
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man look at her that doesn't mean she's a lesbian well no i know but i i don't know the tattoos is a
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big thing for me as well i think that the tattoos in general i mean they're great i'm a big fan of
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tattoos but at the same time i feel like the double japanese is called japanese traditional sleeves i i
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mean i don't i don't completely disagree with that prior to the tattoos like i yeah i get like i don't
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know we get hit on by lesbians very interesting i i mean i've asked some people before and they
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they said it's because i'm like like like level-headed i don't know or like calm or not like neurotic
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i feel like i don't know that's lesbian traits am i wrong i don't know i'm just just relaying what
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i've heard very interesting huh that's cool okay i get hit on by lesbians too it's really weird
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like they i don't know if they think i'm like a chick or it's up man
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bitch you a lesbian me or i'm i'm you're the butch i you know maybe i turn them
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i'm yes brian's just that good i'm turning them he's that good i'm that good i'm that good um all
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right here we have a super chat uh i'll get this pulled up here real quick living says never gotten
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the answer to my question last year if a woman is going down on another woman what how big does
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the clit have to be before it becomes straight um listen man this is part of you know big labia
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matter pertains to labias but listen we also do some like side side gigs when it comes to like large
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clits um a woman can still have a large clit and it's doesn't matter how big the clit is it's always
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straight i think i can as long as she's female really okay i can speak to this a little bit as
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a bodybuilder because when females so female bodybuilding is huge and i am honestly i'm not
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a fan of female bodybuilding because it involves females taking androgenic steroids which basically
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turns them into men and yes their clit tends to get bigger i really think that if you are i i don't
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think women should be taking anabolic steroids androgenic steroids at all i think it decreases
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their femininity and that's something that's positive that's something they have going for
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them what what are your thoughts on this because you're you're also a bodybuilder aren't you you
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said that before the show yeah are you are you a natural bodybuilder like me um i've taken a little
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bit of anivar okay you're a varby like five milligrams she's a varby like the smallest amount okay okay
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you took like one cycle or whatever yeah like 12 weeks but it's literally just to the like small
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amount of anivar is just to like retain your muscle mass while you're in a very low the question's
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coming did the clit get bigger no it's literally just anivar like a five millimeter yeah i don't
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i mean her voice is still feminine yeah it's it's just like to make you your muscles look harder and
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so you you can dry out but you wouldn't go further down that no i do agree that i think that okay so
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when you look at female bodybuilders oh wow i'm gonna get flamed but i like the new vision when you
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look at female bodybuilders do you get grossed out as well okay yeah because i get i get flamed for
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talking about that but i think it is genuinely i i think it's disgusting i think female bodybuilding
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besides you know there is a new division that they're coming out with like you mentioned
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even bikini i think well so there's to an extent i think bikini is the best female bodybuilding
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division but as soon as you go start going further than that because that's the smallest
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and this most feminine but yeah now there's a new one model yeah now there's a new one there you go
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okay all right uh we have one other chat here that's uh just yo kaibaka thank you for gifting
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looks like 20 subs it's not letting me display it but uh thank you for the gifted 20 subs kaibaka i
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really appreciate it man w's in the chat for kaibaka thank you and then we have uh this one oh the
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cord the cord good save good save well done uh oh did that not pop let me see if it pops
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america's almanac first time donor on whatever over from the crucible thanks for always being a
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great friend to andrew and the crucible god bless you brian have a great rest of the show america's
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almanac hey thank you so much man for the uh for the message uh super appreciative uh to andrew and
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to the crucible crew appreciate you guys watching over there and uh we have sergeant maverick thank
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for the prime do appreciate it all right let's get back to the show notes here uh and then mylin you
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said i don't know what what the i don't know what the statistics are and how many single people there
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are or the decline of dating but you have a theory that we are not as mature as our older generations
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and have it very easy almost like we're too spoiled and don't understand or haven't experienced
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real hardships to know what we value yeah anything else you want to add to that or pretty much speaks
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for itself yeah pretty much speaks for itself rock and roll that's great all right we're gonna get to
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ebony over here ebony you are quite the provocateur uh ebony you said you went on a date with a guy and he
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took you on a ten thousand dollar shopping spree at some mall in miami um is that the most a guy's
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ever spent on you in it yeah wait were you wearing those glasses before or did you just get them the
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whole time i just get them i just got oh you just got them oh it's too much glare we need to see the
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eyes okay the eyes are the something something soul i don't know um what did this guy do for work
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he was retired he used to be a lawyer he used to do a bunch of jobs but he also used to invest and
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stuff all right so uh is that that's the most a guy spent on you yeah basically um he was into fandom
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because i do that too and so i am like a dominatrix and so yeah it was really interesting
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um okay so you said that women should prioritize finances in a man yes over what what do you think
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women tend to prioritize like love typically love okay yeah so finances first uh you also say here
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women don't need men do you want to elaborate a bit on that uh i don't think that women like a lot of
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people think that women need men in like society to maintain society and i don't think so i think
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women would be perfectly fine i think men i think women would do better off how about how about this
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scenario without women well so so let me uh let me ask you a couple clarifying hold on let me ask a
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couple clarifying questions here um what what about this scenario if men just instantly disappeared
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or women instantly disappeared because your position is men would fare worse yeah
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than the women um so in that scenario where it's not like okay men are going to disappear in like a
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year but it's like men disappear tonight and there's no ability for the women to prepare you think the
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women uh fare better definitely why wow because i think first of all i think men's society would kind
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of it would go stagnant i think the reason why men have done as much as they've done so far is for
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women and because of women and so women on the other hand are quite motivated outside of men uh older
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women who are you know divorced and don't plan on getting in relationships anymore still maintain
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their lifestyle they still keep their places clean they still you know like they still maintain
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here a couple more questions um who here agrees with her on this just curious anybody agree so
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instantaneously all men disappear or instantaneously all women disappear uh her position is uh men would
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fare worse in that scenario than women who who agrees with her there's actually there was like a study on
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that with kids i i know like i still think that men and women like should do you remember what the
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study was called by james i don't i saw i but it was like um elementary schoolers or maybe it was
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middle schoolers but there was they're in like a house for a couple days just girls and then versus
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guys and the girls actually did a lot better than just the boys and that is what was the age of the
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children i'm pretty sure they're in middle school okay i don't see how that pertains to this does
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anybody else agree with her going once going cheers who you agree yeah and you agree okay and then um
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you mentioned that women they keep their houses uh in good shape right yeah but what happens in this
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scenario when within 72 hours there's no electricity there's no food the water stops working there's
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fires that break out and you don't have male firefighters to put these fires out so uh let's
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assume like a woman loses her residence what then uh women know how to collect food i mean back when we
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were hunter gatherers the gatherers being women would you think the average urban woman knows how to
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collect food in the forest uh yeah that's what women used to do that they used to do but that was
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like taught it's not like you can't just drop somebody who's lived in civilization their entire
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life into the fort like do you think you think an average for both men and women i don't think the
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average man well no because even then there's a there's a strength discrepancy so you take like a
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a man who's grown up in an urban environment and a woman who's grown up in an urban environment they
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both have like very little knowledge just on the basis that men have uh more strength generally
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speaking the man's already in an advantage in what way like what you don't think like you don't think
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early human beings relied on like strength and labor to move like okay i want to chop down a tree
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i need to chop up this firewood i need to move these materials to this position i think women
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could work as a team like community well in this scenario i'm thinking like one-on-one but even then
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two women don't possess the same strength as two men or three women don't possess the same strength
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as three men right but i don't think you need to have like some incredible degree of strength i think
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that as long as you have a community you have a tribe you'd be fine it doesn't really matter what
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level of strength there is i think women have enough strength to survive on their own what was
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the question would you be interested in a real social experiment then let's say you get 12 of
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your girlfriends who have even survival skills let's just let let's say they have survival skills
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we'll collect 12 men who have survival skills or we can collect 12 who don't to 12 women and then
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give them uh just a knife a piece and send them off into the wilderness i mean they already do this
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do you watch naked and afraid yeah yeah i mean they did how did the women do they did they actually
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did do this so uh and how did uh how did the women do women survive just fine by themselves no no they
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went over to the men during the exact same social experiment i'm talking about which didn't include
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12 year olds okay when they were fully grown adults and here's what happened they did this in a
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crying they were freezing and they went over and begged the men to help them and the men finally
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did and uh i have seen no no reason why that would not be again by the way these were all ages of men
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all ages of women and uh they failed miserably like miserably i've seen episodes where the women have
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hunted and caught like large kills and i mean and the women you know they do get multiple seasons i'm
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not disputing that women can't they can't do uh in in groups and teams i mean uh the women are not
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stupid i'm sure that they can hunt uh to a but it's the degree to which you're effective at the thing
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that matters so when brian says strength i don't even think that that you realize what what he's saying
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when you're talking about all the labor jobs which keeps society going that requires a great degree
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of physical strength and physical strength is multiplied by multiple men no you don't think
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so you think it's just done by machines the nice thing about machines and machines take a great
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amount of physical strength to use you have a gal here who said she was in maintenance yeah she'll tell
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you if you want to pick up a 400 pound machine motor uh it's really heavy just so you know it's not an
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easy fee so i don't i don't know where you get the idea that raw strength is not still the staple of
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human labor because it still is we have labor saving devices but but strength is still very much key in
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labor sure but you know also just you do acknowledge that there's discrepancies in terms of representation
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when it comes to uh critical infrastructure jobs right
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so like for example um like water i'll i've got a list here water sewage electricity gas fuel
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refinement garbage collection telecommunications it infrastructure road maintenance truck and delivery
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drivers police fire rescue these are predominated by men do you agree with this yeah i mean it's just
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factually true um so if all men disappear instantly there's not enough women in these fields
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to essentially there's not enough women in the fields where if they just disappeared immediately
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it would just be complete it would be a complete catastrophe and i mean you'd have electricity gone
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within 72 hours telecommunications gone within 72 hours women are not in those fields when like
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there's a snowstorm or hurricane and the power's out and it's below freezing in bozeman montana
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and and they got to fix the power lines or they got to fix something they got to check the grid
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at 1 a.m and it's snowing and hailing outside is the woman who goes or it's a man it's always a man
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okay so what happened during world war ii when men had to go to war and women had to take over
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the jobs women had first of all not all women not not all men went to world war ii right women
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stepped up to some degree but they also had plenty of time to prepare for it in the scenario
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i provided men disappeared instantly so in that scenario women would not be able to like oh okay
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we're just going to take over the water the sewage the telecoms you you there wouldn't be enough women
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who have the knowledge base or even necessarily the physical capacity to even do some of these jobs
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even if they did have the knowledge base i think they would i mean we still have the internet
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women are dominating education the internet would be down within 72 hours why do you realize how often
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like there there needs to be because it runs because you seeing the internet runs on electricity
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and if there's no more electrical workers there's no female electricians overwhelming amount of them
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are men i'm talking vast i think it's like 98 in fact i think i think a hundred percent of linemen
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last i checked linemen those are the people who put up your tell you know your power polls i think
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they're all men right it was like decimal point that wasn't men right maybe you're right maybe it
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would go out there wouldn't be enough women to sustain you know like but i think over time women
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would evolve and it would we would get it like well you have one generation because without men you're
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basically going to go extinct and unless of course you decide that you're going to use frozen male
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sperm and then only keep the women but you're going to run out eventually so then i guess you would have
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to have men so that men could then re-inseminate you at some point and then the second you have men to
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do that you have the problem that they're really fucking strong and may decide that you get to go in
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the cages so i don't really know i don't really know like how this is a you know even feasible from
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the female standpoint if all men disappear tomorrow it seems to me like this would be dire and
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catastrophic for women not exactly sure how it would be for men we don't need it anyway the stuff
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you're talking about right i mean we've survived as societies without electricity you do okay you
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do your body was conditioned for this so you're talking about conditions so if you if you live in a
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world like if you go to the third world for instance have you ever seen what's called the
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third world squat that now if you just took that normal squat sitting position that almost everybody
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sits in in the third world all day long your calves would be killing you within about 20 minutes and
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you'd have to get back up because most people don't sit like this right we sit on chairs which is
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actually bad for our back they're actually conditioned for this movement because they were raised in
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environment for the movement the soles of their feet are conditioned to not have shoes they were
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raised in an environment for that everything about them is conditioned for the environment that they're
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in that is not the case anymore when you're not conditioned to go out in the forest and find
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fucking berries okay nobody's gonna women are not modern women are not conditioned to do that
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neither are modern men modern men mostly modern men keep up forestry modern men keep up
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physical conditioning for outdoor jobs and outdoor work and outdoor foraging and hunting and things
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like that women do not and there are women who do these jobs too very few so i live in bozeman montana
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and i can tell you that if men disappeared you know some people will say you know you you we don't need
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these amenities to survive there's a large surplus of the population that lives in a climate where if these
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things disappear millions and millions of people would just die so like brian said if they had time
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to prepare if females have time to prepare they can obviously make that happen but i think to say that
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if men just disappeared women would be fine we're already prepared though like we already have
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education we already have food in grocery stores we like we would have time
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wait wait hold on one thing one thing so right but like if all men disappeared how quickly are you
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going to the grocery store and looting everything right how how quick until all that food's gone
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and then one you're you're gonna have bands of women who are just maybe collectively get together
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they're gonna take everything and then and you don't have police so if there's women who are inclined to
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violence there's nobody who's going to be able to enforce any of the laws and then secondly hold on
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hold on once that food is gone who's going to where's the farmers who are going to cultivate it
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90 of drivers truck drivers are i don't know if that's the exact number the majority of truck drivers
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are men transport how do they get to the grocery store how do they get to trader joe's i mean again
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so we wouldn't have as much of a population to sustain because half of the population would be gone
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right and then also i think women are just you know i think women are quite civilized i don't
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think we are just going to go and start looting things and like whoa i think we can share and i
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think we can wait wait wait hold on do you realize how okay society is like what what did they say like
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six meals away from pure chaos yeah like once people are hungry once they're thirsty
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you think women aren't going to start killing each other really i mean we would still maintain
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society initially like money and i mean women work in grocery stores and stuff like we're not just
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going to go immediately go stealing things and stuff like that i don't think that's exactly what
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it's like a thanos thing they disappear you can't eat the body for the sake of your own survival you
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wouldn't just go immediately like looting the grocery store no because there would be other
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women with weapons listen i'm going to give you uh credit where credit is due we can just take a look
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at the top 10 women female jobs and we we know you're right human resource managers they're going
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to be really good dental hygienists can't wait for them nurse practitioners physical therapists
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physician assistants veterinarians child care workers health care administrators marketing managers
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medical scientists this means uh you're part of a research crew guess what's not there
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you'll never guess construction worker lineman um you know any type of mechanical engineer any type of
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labor whatsoever uh women tend to gravitate towards child care and nursing and administrative jobs they
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and clerical work they don't gravitate towards any of the jobs that you're talking about so how useful do
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you think human resource managers are going to be in the female apocalypse exactly i will teach
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you how to sail and we can just sail away how many people fit on your boat how many people fit on
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your boat comfortably like with a bed or like they're on the floor but who's going to farm the
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food that you bring with hold on it doesn't matter it doesn't matter pull it up damon i have a spear
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bigger so you can bigger bigger bigger cut that off uh all right so this is the top 20 most dangerous
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use occupations and the percentage of mail so logging workers 94 mail fishing workers 99 mail aircraft
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pilots roofers uh truck drivers is 94 mail uh iron and steel workers 98 mail farmers and ranchers 70 so for
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the food 75 percent agriculture workers 79 uh mining landscaping construction workers 97 uh
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hide move us to the other side cement and concrete manufacturing that's that's not super important
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but the electrical well for the apocalypse scenario smaller i need to just hide us just hide us totally
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just hide us totally hold on hold on hold on hold on electrical power line workers 99 police officers 85
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percent maintenance repair workers 97 percent uh and those are the pertaining to the apocalypse
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scenario go ahead andrew but could they do that brian without their human resource managers
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i mean at the end of the day i feel like women don't really occupy those jobs because of the
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patriarchy because of gender stereotypes that we have in society like i feel like if men disappeared
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like women wouldn't really be catering their life to like oh i want a family here no we can here
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we can prove this pull up the discord uh go to like men the men at work tab uh we have some videos
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here that we can show you uh you got it of what men at work tab
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and patriarchy is preventing you from being a locker yes put on the windows definitely i mean aren't
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video back by who show us by the people who hire right big due to sexism and that works
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um due to the fact that they're not strong enough to do logging let's see here um oh
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they have no i'm not necessarily scroll up all the way up all the way to the top
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and the burj khalifa stuff i'm not there's no strength in it scroll down
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uh scroll down scroll down the first line worker one play that one
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uh so this is a guy doing some uh work on the line in snowing and it looks like i don't know
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that's a cup what 100 feet plus i don't know uh is it the patriarchy that's preventing women from
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doing this job honestly that looks like so much fun protectors and they would never let a woman do that
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job or they're not a man what are you talking okay no man would let a woman take on that job
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because we're sexist or because we're chivalrous nothing is preventing women from doing this job
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they just don't want to do it i will say there are x out of it there are a lot of women here
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play that play that uh the north sea compilation women don't want to do those jobs the top one
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i would totally totally okay if you would totally do it go do it go do it i'll give you a
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thousand dollars if you do the ship for a month lineman school wait for the fishermen because i will
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totally do that no do do this the north sea yes do this oh yeah you go do it for three months go on
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an oil rig it takes like three years to be able to do that because the the metal workers that that's
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an extreme okay total cop-out go just go ask if there's a job go ask yeah there's a cop-out go ask
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if there's a job stop stop stop go ask if there's a job on an oil rig for you to take go do it exile that
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sailing is male dominated and the skills that's cool right and another reason dominated that
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doesn't stop down from doing them right here fish that's also male dominated that doesn't stop on the
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manhole did the did the patriarchy prevent you from being a sailor no and women don't want to do this
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women don't want to work with men with this there's nothing preventing there's nothing preventing a
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woman from doing this job women don't want to work with men women don't want to be sexually harassed at
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work and oh nice made fun of or treated like a lesser person it's not there's multiple reasons
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why women don't take these jobs oh the women the patriarchy yeah the patriarchy has to do with that
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that's totally uh and that's it we've shown them may i speak on this just for a second
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so being somebody who has a lot of male dominated skills right with like i've started spearfishing
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about two years ago that's something that's definitely male dominated like fishing in general
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is male dominated now that's more of like a hobby than like a job i don't do these for my jobs but
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you know you can if you are in a scenario of oh like you know can a woman do these things she can do
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these things or is it a majority of women no and i'm not going to argue that that's a stupid point
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compared to the you literally have that the data right there but when you hold on no no when you
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say fishing yeah do you mean you throw out a line and you reel the fish do you know how physically
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laborious commercial fishing no i do i do i have a lot of friends who are fishermen because they're
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in the okay but were you stopped by men when you wanted to pursue these things what i'm saying is
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is that like if you want to do these things in a woman as a woman you can like there might be a
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strength barrier that you'd have to we're talking about a survival situation in a survival situation i
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would be fine personally because again i live on a boat i own my own boat it's able to get power from my
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my engine which i've learned how to fix i have solar which supplements the battery for that
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fuel that's fair honestly how am i going to get fuel i have a sailboat so i can sail if i run out
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of fuel you know i've got plenty of canned goods i've got a spear gun i know how to spear fish i can
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go underwater for it i can fish above water too i can get my meat there i've learned how to fish like
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that how to literally fillet the fish how to eat that way okay cool cool cool i'm sorry i have to cut
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you off here going back to the original conversation i wasn't sure huh i wasn't here for
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the beginning of that so i don't know how this started we she made the claim that women would
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do better in a i'm not arguing that i don't you gotta let me finish before you keep interrupting
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so she made the claim that women would fare better in a situation where like all men disappeared and
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we're presenting evidence to the contrary my my position here is not would some women on the
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individual level would they be able to survive do women can have survival skills they can have
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all the skills you listed i don't doubt that you have any of them congratulations we're talking
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about like the macro level like societal level catastrophe that would occur in a situation
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where all men or all women disappeared and because of men's over representation in critical
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infrastructure fields my position is is it would be absolute chaos in the event if all men disappeared
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whereas if all women disappeared that would be terrible it'd be the end of the human species
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but all the critical infrastructure we would keep that going and we would have a much higher standard
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of living if all women were to disappear than the reverse yeah i do think it would kind of be like
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lord of the flies but i do agree with you where most men would just be you know living in a
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shoebox once women disappears what's what's the motivation what's the reasoning anymore wait but
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don't you think it's a little bit hypocritical to say that women aren't or women don't get into
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jobs like that like being a lineman and working on oil rigs because they're scared that they're going
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to be sexually harassed by men like when you do only fans how would that be contradicting well because
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you're saying that you're basically saying that women aren't trying to be sexually harassed when
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aren't only fans models isn't that essentially what you're putting yourself out there even if you're
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not trying to get sexually harassed isn't that the job where you are going to get sexually harassed the
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most i mean i haven't been sexually harassed i don't necessarily think you would be
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do you really think that men sexually or women's fear of getting sexually harassed by men is what
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keeps them out of jobs like that yeah like women just don't want to be in working jobs with men where
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they would feel like a lesser person they would be underestimated well but in this case in those jobs
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like they are weaker so they would be necessarily lesser correct i agree with that i agree with
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what you're saying i don't think it's about sexual harassment i think it is about strength and also
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just like who who is funneled into the point if if that's the case if that's the argument why wouldn't
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women just start their own firms and compete with these male firms and with all women who if you really
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have women who really want to do these jobs then if a woman started this firm they should have a limitless
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amount and could compete very easily by even offering slightly lower wages than the male competitors
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these women are desperate to get in to these jobs because they don't want to be sexually harassed by
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these men you could still have an all-female firm yeah i mean i think that what like i think that's what
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turns women away from working these kinds of jobs but i think like again gender stereotypes and gender
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roles in society plays a huge part in this like generally with you know historically what we've told
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women okay wait wait one argument at a time before you're as a you've been like a tube of toothpaste
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we squeeze here and you just move there i squeeze there you move here so back on this argument we'll
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stay with it can you answer why it is that if it is the case that you believe that there's just tons
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of women who want to do these jobs just excluded due to the fact i don't think there is let me finish the
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question that they're excluded because they think they're going to be sexually harassed why wouldn't they
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just start female firms and then make a killing paying them slightly less than the competitor
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yeah again because i don't think women do want to do those jobs well then why did you earlier say
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that the reason that there's a barrier for entry into these jobs and i have witnesses here can confirm
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this one smiling because he clearly heard the same thing i did that you said the barrier for entrance is
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that they did not want to be sexually harassed by the evil men because that is like that would be
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the reason why a lot of women would be deterred from those jobs or wouldn't get into those jobs
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in the first place but i don't necessarily think there's a large you wait hold on hold on hold on
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i don't necessarily think there's some large and like group of women who want to do these jobs i just
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think that maybe there would be women who would do them but they just wouldn't do them because it's
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male-dominated how about we hear from a woman saying that women gravitate naturally towards jobs that
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aren't like these but somehow not naturally i don't think it's natural apocalyptic world where there's tons of
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women who don't gravitate towards these jobs they're going to do better than men can you explain
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logically how that works can we hear from a woman who's actually in the field with no i can i would
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like to finish real quick okay but but she's got she's i know i know and we can we can get to her
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just a second i'd like to finish the line of inquiry here so back to this can you explain to me logically
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just break it down very quickly how it could possibly be that if you now agree that uh women just don't
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gravitate towards these jobs you have to necessarily agree that they don't want to do them they don't have
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interest in them so how is it that they would fare better but in a post-apocalyptic non-male world
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exactly because like there would be no men they wouldn't be scared to enter these jobs um due to
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wait i thought you just said they didn't want to do these jobs it wasn't a matter yeah but there would
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be a need for it now they don't want to do it because most women think oh like i want a family
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or whatever and i want to be seen as a feminine woman but you know like they want to be feminine and
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do all these traditionally feminine things so now it's a cultural issue i mean there's no barrier
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for it's like a mixture of both and we have a cultural problem it's a mixture of both it's a
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it's a mixture of both now so they did but you so then you do agree that most women just don't want
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to do these jobs yeah so then how would they fare better when they don't even gravitate with an
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interest towards these types of things than men who do clearly have an interest in these things
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like aren't you going to be better at your work if you're interested in the work well i never said
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that women would do better in oh no no no women's society would do better ready quote women would
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fare better than men just pointing that yeah in general not in these specific occupations yeah how
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could that be if women don't gravitate towards those things and men do aren't men going to naturally
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be better at them then because they're interested in them because the reason why women don't gravitate
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towards these things is because it's male dominated and because women are not encouraged to be in
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those kinds of jobs you just got done you well you just contradicted yourself because first your
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argument was no it's not that the barrier for entry is otherwise we would have female firms that would
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compete rather it's a small minority of women who have interest in these jobs and they gravitate towards
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these other jobs because of the interest they have in those jobs instead so if that is the case
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we have now deduced using inductive reasoning that you believe most women don't have an interest in
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these jobs if that is the case why do you think post-apocalyptically suddenly they would just
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have an interest they would be interested they wouldn't be interested there would just be a need for
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it so they like right they all agree there'd be a need for it they just wouldn't be interested in it so
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the thing there would be incentives for women to get into these jobs and eventually society would
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adapt like it's kind of like how would society adapt if they have no interest in the job they
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only are gravitating based around need and they don't have the interest if it is the case that people
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have interest in a job they do better at that job yeah women don't aren't interested in these jobs
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because of traditional gender roles if we get rid of the other gender there is no need for that
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continuous contradiction it's not a it's not a it's not a contradiction i'm gonna i'll show you
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it cannot be both oh because of traditional gender roles are not interested and okay at the same
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time well it's just that men gravitate towards it because because they're interested so you got to
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pick pick pick yeah the reason why they're interested is because of traditional gender roles
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i don't see what so hard to comprehend is it is it the case that women would normally be
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interested in these jobs and they're just not because men or is it the case that they're
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just not interested in these jobs which is it they're not because of cultural like our culture
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basically okay so you believe that if we had like a massive government program which incentivized
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women to do these jobs that women would be gravitating towards these jobs right yeah okay
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great we already have that why aren't they what do you mean i mean we have massive government programs
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including affirmative action including government stipends government grants including for the
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the first navy seal millions of dollars were spent to find one overwhelmingly the government has spent
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hundreds of billions of dollars in uh affirmative propaganda to get women into male positions and
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they don't want it one such example you could find would be in the nordic nations where there was
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hundreds of hundreds of millions of uh dollars spent whatever their dollars are in pushing women into
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those fields and telling them to gravitate into those fields and they still don't how do you account for
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that then i mean i would just say again because women think about wanting a family with a man and being
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attracted to a man so they're not interested in being attracted so they're interested in something else other
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than those jobs can i add something i i do have to move things on i do have to move things on but
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uh and also andrew wouldn't you know i i almost wonder if this conversation is a bit secondary because
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isn't it just a defeater in this scenario like when it comes to a societal breakdown uh even if there were
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women who had the interest there's the you know it's like a black hole the point of no return
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once there's been enough societal decline in like an apocalyptic scenario like you you are so declined
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that you're just never like there's just not enough people with like the knowledge base uh or enough
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people in this field there's just going to be like so many cascading problems that like you're not even
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thinking about getting internet back you're not thinking about electricity back you're thinking about
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like base level survival even easier all you have to do is just take a look at reason right reason
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is important when it comes to survival you have to reason things out and think about how many
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unreasonable contradictions i just went through women are really interested in these jobs but they're not
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interested in them there's a gender divide and if the government were to produce tons of propaganda
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towards these jobs women would then be interested in them and that was her position and then when i
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explained hey but that's already happening then it became well i think that women just have other
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interests again in this case men they're just interested in men which again demonstrates that
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they have other interests than what these jobs are so it's contradiction after contradiction after
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contradiction because of a lack of reason and the thing is it's like all you really have to do
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is think about that for 15 seconds right you can see all those contradictions what brian points out here
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is he says this is way past the curve right he says wait a second if societal decay got to
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x threshold there's no coming back anyway and it's not like we're going to rediscover the technology
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of anvils and you know horses and buggies and things like that that's not an overnight thing we would
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actually it would take us time to regress in technology that's true but the thing is is like
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immediately i don't even think she believes her own position so it's like it can just be categorically
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rejected anyhow i do uh have to get some chats coming in here we have chris chris donated two
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hundred dollars ask women to open a pickle jar and i got one how strong they are all right
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all right mikayla you do you will we'll start with mikayla we'll go down
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grab that all right go ahead are you gonna close it re-close it and reopen well if she gets it
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that's it so go ahead mikayla mikayla goes first she she works out though so she might get it
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come on you got it let's go mikayla well wait you only oh wow she got it you know ryan that's not
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a good look i was playing hey chris is the one who asked for the pickle jar chris chris i loosened
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it a bit for her i'll just you know i want you know i wanted to give mikayla a w over here she
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didn't get she hasn't gotten flowers so good job mikayla um the there is a catch though mikayla
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whoever opens it has to eat all the pickles oh my god does any will anybody eat a pickle right now
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holy she should chill out oh my god she really likes the pickles man she really likes the mic
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back down uh i think we need to get you like a little paper towel though otherwise it's gonna
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leak everywhere um do you want to just go grab like a paper towel and actually damien damien can
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you just grab her one all right we got some more chats coming through here uh i do apologize those came
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in a while ago sorry for the delay guys we were just kind of hold on guys stop stop we were just
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in the middle of something so uh we you know i wanted to let the conversation play out but um
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uh so sorry for the delay on these guys chris thank you for that beans donated 200 yeah go ahead
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hello from the uk just one you have to have it in first time i've ever been up late enough to watch
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live chair one and four wow how important is loyalty in a relationship
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oh no wow good job all right it was like two three bites but okay all right congratulations let's
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uh w's in the chat for uh bella over here w's in the chat she's a she's a pickle destroyer um all right
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uh or just leave it over there in case here you get hungry and you want another one
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um let's see here we have beans okay so that was for chair one and chair four uh how important is
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loyalty in a oh wait no chair one and chair four wow oh the question was not specifically direct
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directed at you he just said wow to michaela and shelby i guess he okay whatever uh how important
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is loyalty in a relationship going around the table how important is it yeah that's i mean extremely
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important yeah okay coming around the table super quick go ahead it's everything it's everything
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it's the most important shelby yes yes okay there's no relationship without loyalty yeah okay
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i think it's super important all right what about you yeah i think it's really important
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it's the foundation yeah what they said and just to be fair you wanted to come in uh i guess on the
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previous comment i do have to move it on afterwards but you wanted to come in on the conversation we're
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having um with the guys and girls in the work what we were just talking about yeah uh there was a couple
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things uh if you i don't know so uh one um you know that job because you're doing the job so everything's
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taught another thing it's not all really strength unless it is something down to a pickle jar
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um a lot of the jobs use machines now like um you really aren't doing much rather just moving your
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hand or something um the thing about wait wait hold on i'm sorry i'm sorry hold on damien pull up the
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discord again i'm sorry i'm sorry pull up the discord oh okay so with the cockroaches yes in the
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tunnel pull up the discord okay all right no no hold on scroll up scroll up just driving this
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point play play the roughnecks hold on hold on full screen it skip forward to so you're saying
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these men they they're just like pulling a lever um yes hold on yeah so that might be a little heavy
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that's it took two hold on you think this job is different do you realize how strong these guys are
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these guys who work on these derricks and stuff the roughnecks no that are they just pulling a lever
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that has to be in a male form this is how you get that one but i think that the important point is
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that with a lot of the machines that even that women would be using like who manufactures the
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machines and then who maintains them and that requires work like this right just real quick i'd like to
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just just go right back to your points before we shift it on when you say what jobs are you talking
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about i will say with the one with the guy in the sewer tunnel and the bugs are calling um no i mean
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which ones were you referencing when you said it just take you know okay so let's say uh it work
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building fiber wiring there's actually machine building the or digging through the ground really
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um there's there's many jobs like even the logging right um you have machines doing it like you're
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crawling up and you have a chainsaw now again you can say like a man eventually created the machine as well
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i will say that i'm not hanging on just one point at a time so let's start with fiber wire i've run
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fiber wire and i've cut down trees i've done both of those things uh no you don't have a machine which
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late you're still manually laying cable by the way you're still manually laying it and you have terrain
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conditions that go into account so machines can only get in certain places right uh and human beings can
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get in many more places that machines cannot get that's that's the first one and then your second
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point when it comes to logging especially i don't know if you've ever chainsawed for hours that is
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hard ass work those chainsaws are extremely heavy you have to have correct technique it's extremely
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laborious and it's back breaking because of the way that you have to bend you're constantly basically
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at a 45 degree angle the entire time with this chainsaw uh no that requires immense physical strength
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i don't i don't know where you got the idea that oh you have a chainsaw and so therefore
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like what it might even be better less laborious uh to cut down a single tree with an axe because you
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can at least stand upright when you're swinging the axe but with a chainsaw you're expected to cut down
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many many many trees in a day and it's extremely heavy it's extremely laborious work like i don't
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i don't know where you're coming up with this um for yourself as a chainsaw you're only chainsawing
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what i'm not a chainsaw if you're doing it at that level i have chainsaw down trees there's definitely
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some type of machining already involved for that type of labor for that multitude um yeah what that
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machine does it's late it's a labor saving device it doesn't make the labor easier what it does is it makes
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it faster the chaining down tons of trees with a chainsaw climbing up so first of all you have to
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cut a tree down from the top up so you have to climb up to the top of the tree and delimit with a
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chainsaw in one hand while you're holding the tree with another hand you delimit down then you cut it down
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at the base it is true that it's a lot faster than doing it with an axe but it's still very labor
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intensive but that's all it means is you can like cut more down quicker not that the work is easier
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um and then the job with the guy in the tunnel and the cockroaches at the end of the day uh how i
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saw that was an act of love um not really that no woman would ever do it at the end of the day
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a man would never let the woman do that a woman could they never would because men would never i would
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let a woman do it i don't think you would if you loved your woman you wouldn't like because that sewer
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system is for your house or whatever oh i don't know if i'd want my girlfriend to do it but like
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if i had a job and a woman came to me and she was capable of doing it would i you would want me as
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like the mat the man oh you can't do that woman i'd be like okay if you can do it fuck it well you're
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small you can get into maybe you're she's smaller she can get into the spaces better i don't know yeah
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yeah i don't know well that woman's there because she likes doing it i guess
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but okay all right uh i gotta let the rest of the chats come through we have uh actually yeah we'll
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let these come through metro mac donated two hundred dollars women of the panel would you do these jobs
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what is stopping you from doing them settle the debate also stop the coat chair three
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so uh of some of the videos i showed you just going around the table like would you do those
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jobs to like the in the in that manhole like getting rid of the cockroaches that the the power
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lines or whatever snowing would would you do those jobs yeah i would do them you do them okay
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if worse comes to worse i'll do it okay you do those jobs or no just because i'm a
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pussy but i'd probably do something like construction or like electrician or whatever
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all right yeah all right what about you yeah no no there are other badass women who would do it i
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wouldn't want to do it you wouldn't want to do it what about you um it depends i think i would okay
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i do my own septic so i do have to do that for myself but i don't know how i would feel about doing
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that for somebody else so okay i would 100 okay wait you would 100 but didn't you say men should
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not allow women to do that no i didn't say that i said the only reason why the man got there in the
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the end was because that's what a man does out of love wait the man does it he's the end of the
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she's saying that we out of chivalry wouldn't let a woman do that which if a woman wanted to do that
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job would you i would i would let the woman do the job if she wanted to do the job but she doesn't
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want to do the job that's the problem yeah you know i don't know um all right uh let's see here
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graffito tagged hey thank you man graffito tagged donated two hundred dollars if all the men were
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to disappear who is going to get rid of the spiders for you huh yeah i mean who's going to kill my own
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i will who's going to kill the spiders i'll come in with a baseball someone with lesbian energy that's
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that's who needs to come in to save the day i'll kill them all right and uh we have a really quick i
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want to shout out some people who uh by the way guys w's in the chat for graffito welcome back man
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good to see you metro matt w's in the chat for metro matt thank you for the tts's guys and then hold on
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here we have um shoot one sec guys uh yo i need to shout out some people yo uh elmer wheeler thank you
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for the dollar on cash app wheeler thank you again for the five dollars michael thank you for the five
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dollars dustin thank you for the seven dollars on cash app appreciate you guys if you guys want
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100 of your contribution to go towards the whatever pod venmo cash app link is in the description
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whatever pod thank you guys appreciate it also read is 100 tts is 200 also guys like the video if
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you're enjoying the stream we have two three more chats here uh michaela you get to do the honors you
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get to read alas behold the profound scholarship of our fin dom erudite that damn pesky first
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amendment women don't need men curious how well your dainty little fin dom tuchus would prosper
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and to hear in these days all right there you go do you want to respond to lucas okay so yeah i do
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do fin dom and yes men are mostly my customers but again i think if i obviously i need men to do fin
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dom right because women aren't that stupid but i'm sorry i'm just kidding um but you know shots fired
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i could still do other jobs okay we have another one from lucas uh bella let me have you read this one
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hey finny indulge me with a thought exercise walk around a bit and compile a list of everything you've
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come across that was not put there by nature everything on your list was both invented but and
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built by men you want to respond to that or everything on your list what does he mean by that
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originally this came in like 30 minutes ago so i think you're saying like uh i don't know women
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they take care of their space and they're you know take they take better care of the the house
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in the apocalypse oh the house was built by men men maintained and yeah i guess but i think women
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could build houses like i could totally build a house you could okay you're i could definitely
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build a house like what from scratch or just by yourself with a team of women sure i think with
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maybe a team of that woman like if you multiplied her by 12 maybe but if i'm not sure about the whole
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group here just a really really simple question for the house builder can you describe for me
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a jigsaw how does a jigsaw work that's for you a jigsaw i don't even know what that is
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what about a circular saw how does that work i've never seen one do you know the stud is okay hang on
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hang on a stud just really there's multiple like isn't that like a leg she was about to point at me
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brian isn't that like a dog that breeds or like a lesbian oh my
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are we talking as it pertains to like in the context in the context
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building no i don't know what that is no do you know the stud is no oh boy okay all right
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well uh what's a hot guy what's a stud right a study what's a fendom i don't know what that
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financial it means financial domination oh it means she's a terrible human being can i go in
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just kidding we'll get to it we'll get to it we'll get to it um all right terminal lanced these delusional
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women need to admit or actually no hold on bella go ahead these delusional women need to admit that
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they live in a privilege or they live in privilege and don't want to do manual intensive jobs why work
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12 hours a day lifting 100 pounds when i can show my butthole for 30 minutes and get the 5x critical
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thinking i couldn't read that sorry 5x all right uh terminal lanced uh that i do appreciate your
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message w's in the chat for terminal i mean i guess just the final thing on this it's like
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do you have any appreciation for men you know like i can sit here and say i think women are great
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but i i feel like you don't think that about men i think men are pretty cool oh yeah i think by the
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end of this podcast i'm going to prove that you don't i don't hate men oh really i mean i just
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think we need to like regulate them you called all of your customers you called all of your customers
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the people that hire you for fin dom stupid for hiring you for fin dom they literally are i agree
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i agree with you just well i very much agree with it you'll just insult them like that yeah i mean yeah
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that's incredible that's incredible that's that's i guess i'll say this so men they're pretty much uh
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they're responsible for nearly all the physical necessities comforts and conveniences that uh you
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enjoy and obviously take for granted and are quite ungrateful for that's the firefighters police garbage
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men plumbers uh you know when there's a fire or natural disaster we just had the palisade well you're
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you flew in right from where florida okay i don't know well we just had the fires here in california
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fire natural disaster crime power outage when you call a plumber who's showing up a man or a woman
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it's a man yeah when shit hits the fan we're the ones that are gonna come not me i got a
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fucking podcast i ain't doing shit but uh you know the other men out there who you're ungrateful for
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uh so i don't know i wouldn't say i'm ungrateful for them i think men are pretty cool for doing
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those jobs i just think that women could also step up and do those jobs if needed all right if needed
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okay that's fine that's fine uh and this isn't i'm not like it's this isn't when i make these
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arguments it's not like trying to dunk on women it's more so just like could you have an ounce of
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appreciation for like the the the comfort that through men's labor has provided you oh yeah
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definitely we're getting something i don't know maybe we're getting something i think it's ridiculous
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to say that women like don't need men like that sentence in and of itself like man was created for
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woman woman was created for man either way we're headed for an apocalypse we're gonna become an extinct
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species either way but at the same time like yeah i think i think andrew made really good
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points why are you guys so offended by that statement i feel like if a man said men don't
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need women i wouldn't i wouldn't care is it because i'm not i think that men very much need women
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very much need women by the statement we just really love mansplaining
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it's true i i think that i think that men really really do need women i think without women
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society falls apart you need this you need it it's good for you the toxic masculinity of
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mansplaining when you're like i can build a house we go what's a stud and you go ah it's a it's a
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animal that has sex with another animal that's the male i the dog that our confidence level in your
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building ability goes greatly down so the thing is is like um so yeah i'm sorry sorry you have to
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sit here and be mansplained too but if if it were the case that you were making logical reasoned
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points i would be happy to listen to you like the gal i was talking to earlier she made logic reasoned
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points right and then we have you who's not making logic reason points so we have to mansplain a bit
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will you take that statement back like just after hearing all of us say those points would you say
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like women can't survive or women wouldn't survive without women live as cushy of lives without men
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sure oh boy but do women need men for survival do you want to keep going further about this okay you
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don't no no no your question was fine it was more so just like i i'm not saying that this is not a
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dunk on women but it's just like it's just the reality when it comes to the different representation
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when it comes to men being in these critical infrastructure positions i'm not saying this is
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like an own on women in this apocalyptic scenario all men instantly disappear within two weeks i'm not
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saying this to be a dick 50 of women are dead easily now i just now a lot of men are dead a lot of men
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also die in the reverse scenario but because like like he was saying in like in uh montana or places where
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it's like freezing right now you need electricity and so like if once the electrical grid goes to
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shit which i'm being dead honest here it will be gone within 72 hours people are dead 24 hours after
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that so yeah 50 of women gone we just want a little bit of respect you know look if it happens in summer
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you guys gotta look you're doing a little better winter time you guys are fucked i mean still
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not in florida not as bad all right all right anyways whatever uh i got we'll get on to the
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next thing here uh okay so um we'll do a few more viewers then we'll come back to some other stuff
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we'll get some other people involved yes uh you said single mothers promiscuous and older women can
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still pull when you say you've still pulled what do you mean like just like still get like still have
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sex wait have like solid relationships or okay yeah absolutely do you yeah sure i mean they can
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yeah i mean a woman who slept with 100 men or older women or single mothers can they still end up like in
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a relation you by pull you mean like a relationship or just to have sex because when i think of pull i
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think just both okay that's fine um do you think though compared to like so let's just look do one at a
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time single mothers do you think single mothers fare better in the dating marketplace than childless
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women no but that doesn't mean that yeah they can't that's fair your claim your claim is careful can
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still pull right but i'm more so looking at like who's gonna have a better time but like some men
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actually prefer single mothers um now sometimes it's weird because yeah sometimes it's predatory but
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some men actually like to see that a woman is already a good mom before having a child with her and
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i've actually heard men say that themselves like oh i actually prefer when a woman is already a mom
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because i can see like if she's a good mom okay before i have kids with her the thing with single
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mothers is then you would be raising somebody else's child and that's that's quite counter
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evolution no it's not yeah i mean it is well i mean historically like if we look through like
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throughout most of human history prior to us becoming modern humans humans like women were
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very the women were very like polyamorous like you know men used to like impregnate or not impregnate
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but like used to inseminate the same woman like they used to share the women wait is that i don't
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know but is it true like women this was before we evolved like to have like the prefrontal cortex and
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be like in tribal civilization no this is back when like humans were like like how we were more
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closely related to chimpanzees like we were more oh when we were like hundreds of thousands of years
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ago oh in sex before dawn it talks all about how in primal civilizations one man would have multiple
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women right and this is when we became more similar to the modern humans that we are now i'm talking
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about prior to that when we were closer to like our ancient like ape ancestors wait so before him
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how is it before that that's like the original caveman like the original caveman i'm talking about
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before the caveman like we were basically women had multiple wait so men were monogamous and women
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had multiple partners uh no both were polyamorous both were poly but women take nine months to give birth
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birth i don't want to talk about i mean they used to just they were just raising i don't know about
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the children that weren't theirs it was it was like people were raised like we were living in tribes
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humans had to stick together because we were always at the bottom of the food chain
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okay yeah all right i don't know all right uh you said older women can still pull but do they
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pull better than younger women i think it's like almost the same honestly i think i really do because i
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mean a lot of people say oh like you're 35 you hit your wall but younger women don't want older men
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like at least not significantly older men wait younger women don't want older men no i do really
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i think when we i think when we say we want older men we're thinking like three to five years older but
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it's not like i'm 19 and i want a man who's 35 i think that's i think that's pretty much essentially
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exactly what most women want especially being a guy that has grown up seeing younger being around
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younger women i i've been decently financially successful in my early 20s which is cool but at
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the same time i have watched women overlook me simply because the fact that they are drawn to men that
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look like they have it like put together like men almost in their 30s it's very very interesting
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i mean i think i think generally speaking most women are dating men like around their age right
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there's a greater proportion of young women who are going to date like there's going to be age gap
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like 5 10 15 years but i i would agree generally speaking most women are dating men their own age but
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there's like i don't know if it's five percent ten percent but you don't really see the reverse i think a lot
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of girls have that phase where they're like oh i want a man who's like that old but then you
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actually do it and it's like this guy is literally my dad would you date brad pitt no how about wait
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do you have a type what's your type i'll find an old guy that you'll uh i mean i don't denzel
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i don't have a racial type if that's jackie chan sorry i'm just trying to go through all that
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who do you want i feel like maybe i would like sleep with these men but like i wouldn't like date them
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no they would be like my father wait but didn't my father's if you dated someone your own age that's
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like dating your brother no but i can at least relate oh oh you don't you don't have anything
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for that i can at least i can at least relate to that person weren't you the person that had
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originally said that women should date a man more for the financial side of things so wouldn't that
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encourage younger women to date older men isn't that exactly what you're doing likely to have their
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finances yeah who are more likely to be successful i mean it's different when you're younger like i
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think i think if you encourage that if you encourage women go out and like date people
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date men more based off of their financial situation you're gonna have a lot of really young ladies
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dating really old men or even maybe you could argue that late 20s 30s and yeah i mean i think yeah you
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said women should prioritize finances in the man so like a 20 year old she's gonna date a 20 year old
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college guy who doesn't make any money like what in your world view if he's willing to give her money
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like take her on dates and stuff 20 year old college guys don't have money like that typically
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they can have a job bruh they can have a starving college student she say no over here they even if
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they have a job they're probably i don't think like i don't think women i do think women should date
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older just not like significantly older like i think women generally prefer like three to five
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years do you think just two two very brief questions can you respond first to your first
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argument which was that would be like dating my father how come it's not like dating your brother
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to date someone three years older than you because you don't have to deal with the mansplaining and
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like just dealing with someone who you don't understand your brother doesn't mansplain
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don't lie no my brother does not mansplain okay well most people's brother i mansplained to my
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sister so the thing is is like why i don't understand how it is that even mansplaining would
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have a difference in age like you think that because you're 20 and he's 25 that the mansplaining
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goes away because it doesn't go away it's to a lesser degree because i feel like older men they talk
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to you like you don't know any better and you're just like you're literally a child to them but it's
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like why are you attracted to me if i'm like a child to you it's just weird that was interesting
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what's weird about it it's just like it feels does it give you the radio does it give you the
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ick yes it does it gives you the ick well let me ask you a question uh since we're on the ick can
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you give me a single moral argument a single one for why it would actually be immoral for a 20 year
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old woman to date or marry a 50 year old man just a single argument that's actually shows that this
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is immoral well for the woman i don't think it's immoral i don't think it's immoral for younger
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women to like older people or for younger people why is it immoral for the 50 year old man who has
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a woman who's 20 who's interested in him to be interested in reciprocate her feelings uh because
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younger people like i think like once you're under the age of like 25 21 maybe you have higher
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levels of neuroticism you are dealing with hot and cold cognition you are dealing with peer pressure
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you have a lack of identity so we shouldn't let them vote shouldn't let them vote yeah um
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i think that we can have like i don't necessarily i think that certain privileges can be afforded to
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i think that certain levels of privileges can be afforded to different um
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i don't understand if they're neurotic and stupid and can't make these decisions but somehow you're
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going to charge them with the fate of the nation what can you explain that rationale against it i
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wouldn't be completely against it so you want to raise the voting age to 26 okay so then once they
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get 26 and their abdulla oblongata is fully developed or whatever um then it would be okay
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after the abdulla oblongata reaches the fruition of abdulla oblongata-ness for them to then date a man
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who's 50 at 26 right yeah i don't like for example right i don't think that there would be any moral
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issue with like a man 50 dating a 30 year old woman like a 25 year old woman okay help me out with one
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more thing the prefrontal cortex i agree with you it's fully developed in women at about age 26
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but something interesting happens and i'd like your take on this do you know that after it's
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fully developed it starts to decay so since it starts to decay by the time you're 50 it's in
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a rapid state of decay in fact in most people so isn't it the case then if that's the truth that a
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50 year old is actually probably more equally yoked with a 20 year old because their prefrontal cortex
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is in a state of decay just like the 20 year old no it's just wait why because that 50 year old
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actually has knowledge and life experience whereas that's also it doesn't come down to
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the prefrontal cortex it comes down to me i never said it came down to the prefrontal cortex yes you
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did you that was the primary i said that you're dealing with higher levels of neuroticism a lack
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of self-identity you're dealing with the same things you would find in a 50 year old due to the
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prefrontal cortex i wouldn't i would have to see some research on that i wouldn't be sure well i
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mean it decays after 26 you can look it up right now it decays after 26 years old becomes in a
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state of decay so that means it's been decaying for what 20 years so wouldn't they be more equally
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i mean you could probably argue that there might be something immoral like of like a younger woman
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dating like a 70 year old or something because they're really out of it but like oh yeah so
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i wouldn't see like a 50 year old is still pretty cognizant to me so wait so a 20 year old and a 70
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year old that would be fine but a 20 year old and a 50 year old not fine no that would not be fine
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why wouldn't it be fine i think that the 20 year old would probably at that point i think it would
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it would be sick on both sides at that point like so then so then what's your argument here reduces
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to then it would be sick even though they're mentally at about the same level so does this
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mean then that no 20 year olds today at the same level why why aren't they if a 70 year old has in
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a state of mental decay the 70 year old probably just doesn't remember things and forgets things and
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like a 20 year old is again dealing with higher the 20 year old would be taking advantage of the
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70 year old probably for its money or something okay so so actually your argument here then reduces to
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this andrew nobody under the age of 26 should be dating because they're high in eroticism they make
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bad decisions they make bad choices so why should they ever date anybody until they're 26 they can't
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even make informed decisions why not raise the age of consent then to 26 can you tell me why why we
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shouldn't do that because i mean i think people who are 26 can just date each other yeah i know but but
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why shouldn't we raise the age to 26 if people can't make good decisions before the age of 26
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i don't think we should because i think to a degree you are like an adult by the age of 18.
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oh you're an adult but you can't choose who you date you can choose to vote you can choose to join
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the military you can choose to do all of these you can choose to smoke you choose to do all these
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things but you can't choose who you date really you can choose who you date i just think that
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okay so why would it so why would it be immoral then for a 20 year old to date a 50 year old can i
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make an argument here can you let her finish hers okay yeah i mean just think about it so first of all
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all like if you're a mother you're in this you're competing in the same dating market as your daughter
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you could potentially be talking to the same man why is that immoral it's disgusting like why is it
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immoral if i use the argument that we should have no no lgbtq because i found it disgusting would you
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accept that as an argument no it's just that i know then don't use disgusting as an argument tell me
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why it's morally wrong i just think it's morally wrong because again like the older man
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would be taking advantage of the younger woman due to her having a lack of identity and but i don't
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disagree with you why are they allowed to date at all until they're 26 because if they're not
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competent enough at 20 to pick their partner right why are we letting them pick their partners when
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they're incompetent you are taking advantage of them right no because by allowing them to make those bad
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decisions like the two 20 year olds don't have any advantage over each other i got i got a quick
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question here quick question for you so your your concern here is um you said taking advantage of
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right so like predatory abusive right these age gap relationships are predatory abusive
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predatory sure i mean what you said taking advantage of what kind of abuse are you talking about
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what you said taking advantage of right yeah okay so but you would acknowledge that age gap
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relationships aren't always that way maybe not no or do you think all age gap relationships
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the older individuals taking advantage as you put it of the younger individual yeah generally like
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every naivety and but could you imagine a singular age gap relationship where the older individual is
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not taking advantage of the younger individual maybe so what would your objection be in that case if there's
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no taking advantage of and it's an otherwise healthy relationship the older individual has good
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intentions what would be your argument against an age gap relationship an association with like
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the usual dynamic of that kind of relationship but i just i mean i can i butt in i said that there's
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good intentions i'm not going to investigate every single age gap relationship like i'm just going
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yeah but you're admitting that many i generally see the patterns to be well but i i very much agree
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with your point when you said that women should take the man's finances into consideration when they're
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dating and they should date for finances but at the same time if you flip it back around i also think
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that men should be able to date for attractiveness so you would agree with that but in the case of a 50
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year old and a 20 year old that's just him exercising that right and saying hey i'm 50 years old i want
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to date a young attractive 20 year old like pure woman does that make sense he can go for 25s women
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women in their mid-20s are still attractive but what if he wants a 20 year old there's no there's no
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problem with him there's actually scientific evidence that 20 to 23 is peak attractiveness to
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male men of all ages for women so that's actually that's true that is a good point i'm not trying to
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argue their point because i actually i have been in a relationship where i was underage in georgia the
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age of consent is 16 i was 17 we're not talking about underage relationships right but that's the
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age of consent so so that was a relationship that i felt like was not fair because of the age gap and
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there is a dynamic within those relationships where there is kind of an authority you know on the man
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over the woman so it's really just if you think that that's appropriate in a relationship then you
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think that an age gap is appropriate in a relationship if you don't think that's appropriate
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then you don't think that is an appropriate relationship hold on i'd like you to i'd like
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you to repeat what you said so a 20 year old is a what like usually 20 year olds have the phenotype of
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a child like of a young wait wait hold on hold on hold on wait wait wait wait wait let me investigate
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this a little bit um you so you said your original statement was a 20 year old is a child yeah so
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that's what so are you talking but you were now you're talking about their uh how they look physically
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but uh what about mentally is there a mental component there too uh i wouldn't say they're a
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child i would say they're just when you say phenotype you mean their body yeah i think most 20 year olds
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look really young do you look so you look childlike no not me i mean i'm the exception no no but hold on
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so just to be clear so but actually let's investigate this so let's say there's a 30 year old who has
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this phenotype that you consider childlike so a man who's attracted to a 30 year old with like perhaps
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she's not very curvy perhaps she has like a small breast or small butt you would say he's a pdf file for
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dating a 30 year old woman and he's 35 yeah that's actually if he's attracted to that wait so
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hold on just to be clear like so you're saying that i wouldn't say he's literally so just to be
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clear you're going to throw women under the under the bus who are perhaps not developed in the breast
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or the butt or aren't curvy you're going to say that they're basically one that they aren't deserving
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of like a relationship or the men that are attracted to them are pdf files really no i'm that's
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literally what you're saying if that's what he's specifically attracted to if he's
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attracted to that look and if he thought that because a lot of times like i've met i've you
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know worked with people and like i've worked with this one woman she looked she was like 27 but she
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looked like she was 19 but if you're attracted to short women say a guy likes short women you can't
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just say oh you're a pdf file because you like short women and you literally younger people are
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usually short wait wait so you're figuratively this is a fair a fair analogy let me let me just ask you
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a single question are you saying then that it's immoral for men who are attracted to those women
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to date them yeah like i would not date a man who looks like a teenager when i was a grown woman
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hang on so so men who are in relationships with women who love them who look like this
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phenotypical expression that you're talking about should the man should leave because he's doing
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something wrong right no i don't think he should leave i just don't think men should be attracted
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to that in the first place like then it's not immoral it is immoral to be attracted well how
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is it immoral if you're telling him not to leave because again like i don't know how this relationship
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arises she's actually of age for all i know you know he could have he's 30 years old but she just
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has the phenotypical expression that you would consider to be childlike and he's attracted to that
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i think are they doing something immoral yes or no are they doing something immoral i think that the
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man is immoral for being attracted to that and seeking out that phenotype in the first place
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okay but they're together now is he doing something immoral by being with her no because he now knows
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what you're saying is that pdf files as long as they're with the person who loves them aren't
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immoral that's because he knows this woman he knows how brilliant he knows can you let me speak
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can you please let me speak he knows how old she is now he knows how old she is he knows her her
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mindset and her level of maturity now like it's it's a relationship so i'm talking about like for
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example the example i was trying to give where i was working with this woman who was 27 but she looked
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like she was 19 and she gets approached by men and they're like how old are you like while she
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looks like a teenager and they're like oh she's like oh i'm 27 and they're like oh i thought you
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were like 19 i was like i'm sorry you're over here doing pdf file apologetics you're over here saying
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that men who are with women who look like this phenotype are themselves pdf files and should stay in
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those pdf files if they're attracted to that you're a pedophilia if you went if you approached
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a woman who was apologizing for pdf files oh my god okay yeah can we get some more input from the
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other girls on the panel like if they agree or if they think the same yeah we'll like open it up on
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the age gap thing i do want to continue just a little bit here i mean i'm just i'm really confused
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because so you know sophie rain i'm sure you know who she is yeah right okay so this is a woman who's
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fairly curvy big butt i don't know if she she got some cans some sadly i don't know she's like 19 but
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i think she started doing like uh social media stuff of maybe at 18 i think she's 19 now um putting
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aside the fact that she's a sex worker strumpet uh you you're going to tell me that she's like
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she would fit the phenotype of an older woman so you would prefer men dating her even though she's 19 but
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she has like a more developed figure versus like a 35 year old man versus a 35 year old man dating
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like a 30 year old woman who's perhaps like not as you know maybe her breasts aren't as large her
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butt's not as large she's not as curvy you think that i'm just trying to understand the logic no i
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think sophie rain looks like younger than what she actually is like in the face she looks 14
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or her body is now it just has to do her body is grown but her face looks young but she looks
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like she's 20 i believe she looks her age i don't know what she's 20 actually and okay she's 20 fine i
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mean what do you so which one i'm just which one is worse in your in your world like for example jenna
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jenna ortega i think is her name the hispanic girl who did the gothic
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yeah jenna ortega roll wow so just to be clear you're gatekeeping like like if a woman just what
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if i mean that's just her genetics she's just you know i'm not saying she's ugly i'm not saying
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any of that but if a man is attracted to that specific phenotype and that's what he usually goes
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for then that would probably be signs of well even if she's 30 years old wait hold on just to be
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clear again i'm not gonna date a man who's 30 years old but looks like he's 17 like i'm just not
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doing i have a question for you so when it comes to like do you agree that like when it comes to
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childhood nutrition like that's gonna have an impact on your development and there's some
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countries that have like oh my hold on hold on there's some countries that have like worse childhood
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nutrition you'd agree with that and so this is going to have an impact on uh you know like perhaps
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how they develop right maybe i think that's stop stop stop hold on okay so just to be clear i want
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you to make a statement that men who find women who live in certain countries who perhaps these are
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developing countries the third world countries men who are men in those countries who find that body
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type attractive because hey perhaps there's not a good nutrition whatever that these men across the
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board in these countries who are not well developed they're pdf files in this country they are not pdf files
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but they oh no no no hold on if they're attracted to that specifically then yes what what if the
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what if the majority of the what if you know that they're adult women then you're not a pedophile
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what if the majority of the what the women in those specific countries have that phenotype are the
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men pdf files i mean no as long as those women are of age
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can i ask as long yes they're yes they are of age they're adult women yeah what about but they're
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attracted to the phenotype which you said indicates that these men are pdf files i think that you know
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if that's what their specific type is and that's what attracts them then yeah okay so there there are
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certain asian countries that i can think of where like these are developing countries and because of
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this like the childhood and you know throughout their teenage years the nutrition isn't necessarily
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there this is going to perhaps have an impact on you know their bodily development you know when it
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comes to for example height height in these countries is lower because it comes down to
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nutrition right so are these men who live in these countries are they pdf files
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no because they're dating and we can say this about latin america we could say certain latin
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american countries we could say those men look like children we could hold on we could hold on we
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could say this about certain countries in africa i just want you to say that the men in these
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countries are pdf files go ahead they're adult women what about runway so okay so then what's the
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problem what's the problem with an adult man dating an adult woman who and this woman happens to have
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the phenotype which you think is not developed enough it's if you look again so again with the
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actress jenna ortega right she literally looks like she's 14 but she's like i like how old is she i think
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she's like 23 yeah i don't know but like who are you to dictate what a woman is
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now you're gaslighting me i'm not saying what a woman you're saying that that like i'm just trying
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to understand like so a woman with small breasts for example an a or b cup you don't think she's
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like deserving of love because of her body i'm not saying that i mean that's kind of what you're
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getting at because the people that would be more likely to be attracted to her but what you're
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donated two hundred dollars ask women to open a pickle jar we already did i don't know how that
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got you i don't even know we already did she opened it i have a question hold on one sec one sec it's
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just like you're you're basically these like if a woman has an a cup or a b cup one you're just the
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men who are attracted to her like it's not about her body type it's about her face you said phenotype
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yeah phenotype includes the face can we talk about like it's not just about like women who
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are flat chest wait so okay just to be clear so you'd be okay let's say there's a 14 year old who
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looks like she's 25 you're okay with like men being attracted if he's attracted to that girl
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then he's attracted to what a girl but if he finds out her age and he's then that would be
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metafilia yes i don't know you're doing some crazy apologetics if she looks like a grown woman and
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he's attracted to the way that she looks this is consistent so what she's saying is consistent so
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she's saying this okay and you let me just steal mana you can tell me if i get your position wrong
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she's saying if a man is attracted to a phenotype which looks adolescent then he's a pdf file that's
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what you're saying so you're saying that if a man was attracted to though to an adolescent who
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had the development of like a 25 year old so he wouldn't know so he is not a pdf file right
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if he didn't know her age and he's attracted to the way she looks then no that would not be
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pedophilia right so so i'm correct right exactly i still made your position correctly yeah okay so i
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just have one quick question for you do you agree with me and do you agree with brian and and the men
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here and i'm sure every woman here that if a man were engaged it with a woman okay who uh had you know
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he found out was in that age bracket he didn't know before um that that he should leave immediately
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even if she had those same phenotypical adolescence she like phenotypically looked adolescent but he
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thought she was 25 or whatever he should get away immediately if she is actually underage right he's
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doing something wrong yeah okay great but if the same man was engaged with a woman who phenotypically
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had that expression who was 25 you say he should stay how's that not pedophile or pdf file apologia
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can you explain that to me wait because what you're saying is you're saying if you are a pdf file
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and you're engaging in this activity you should stop immediately and then you hold a double standard
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for the same man who's engaging in that same nature of activity by your own admission so you're
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apologizing for the pdf file there's no way around it no because that woman would actually be of age
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yeah but but he's attracted to that phenotype which means he's a pdf by your own admission
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and if you're saying he should stay with her then that means you're doing pdf apologia
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okay yeah sure actually i can get behind that yeah he would be
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so you are a pdf apologist thank you thank you how am i a pf apologist though it's not actually
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pedophilia if she's a baby just you literally just said that if he's attracted to that phenotype
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he's a pdf if you didn't say they should stay together because they love each other because they're
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both of age then you are saying that this pdf right should be with this woman even though he's
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a pdf your your p it's pdf apologia you're saying that as long as you're attracted to that phenotype
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and the chick still likes you it's fine yeah no and but okay so he should leave her then right
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i don't think he should leave her oh well then i guess i just think he would be he would be a weird
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person like why do you want this pdf to be with this woman what sort of monster are you because if he
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was a pdf he would actually be with a child oh wait a second so now we have a distinction don't we so
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now you have said now that a pdf actually is not a person attracted to this phenotype it's a person
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who's with a child so you just switch your argument that's it it's over it's done now we have a clear
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distinction as to what you actually consider a pdf to be yeah again so again if he's initially attracted
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to this phenotype that would make him a pedophile but if he's already in the relationship and he
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he this woman is grown she has a grown mentality she's he knows her real age then no it wouldn't
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be pedophilia why would you want her to be around pdf file
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if he's if he's attracted to that phenotype he's a pdf file right yeah and she should specifically
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attracted to that phenotype she should stay with him because she loves him when wouldn't you demand
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that she get away from the pdf file i mean i probably would if he was specifically attracted
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to that now you would now you would it's like it's like a tooth with toothpaste no because i
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didn't understand what you were saying before but i get what you're saying i i just you see how you see
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how silly this is totally silly makes no sense it does it absolutely does if you're attracted to a
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woman who looks like a child you're probably a pedophile i bet this sounded really good on paper
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until you thought about it for two seconds like it makes no sense you're actually advocating this woman
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stay with a person you consider to be a pdf file which is pdf file apologia do you get it now i don't
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know wait hold on are do you believe in like body positivity yeah okay that's fine but i mean why
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why are you gate gatekeeping like what an adult body looks like like you do realize women come in
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different shapes and sizes i'm not gatekeeping you're literally you're saying you're telling us
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we can't be just saying as a man if you're not attracted to a curvy woman with large no i never made
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any specific statements to the phenotype i'm just saying if you look at someone and they look like
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a kid they look like i have a 12 year old niece she's taller than me she has big boobs like big butt
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i'm 25 i've been five foot four 120 b cup no but somebody since i was 15 so my 12 year old i'm not
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talking about the body type i understand that women can have flatter chest women can have smaller hips
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to me and i'm smaller how does that make him like that's just preference i believe right and and when i
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was doing runway modeling right and i was literally like narrow like i did not have any curves on my
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body it's not about that is a body type you're talking about i had a literal if he's a cactus
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i was so small so no but it's not just that a man is allowed to date me but before when i was doing
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runway a man wasn't allowed to date me like that doesn't make sense to me yes like a man shouldn't
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be attracted to a child but having boobs or having a butt does not make you a woman that's not what i said
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that's exactly you guys keep putting words in my mouth i never said anything i never said anything
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about button boobs i asked you about curves i asked you about boobs i asked you about but i never said
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anything to that yes you indicated towards women who have smaller breasts smaller butt i said less
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curvy children huh women who look like children both out which so 15 all the time and when i was doing
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look i'm just saying i feel like women already struggle enough when it comes to like body image
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issue stuff and like now you're trying to add on some extra layer now stop stop stop stop shut up
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stop interrupting so now you're adding on another layer here where like women who do have this phenotype
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now need to all of a sudden be concerned oh is this guy i really like this guy he really likes me
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is he a pdf file do you realize how crazy that is a woman with a cup or b cup breast oh i oh my god
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that's literally what you're advocating for women already struggle enough with that
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shit why if she has a baby face like for example sophia rain baby sophia rain we were talking about
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she looks like a kid even though she has a curvy body okay so so it would be wrong for me to be
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attracted to her that would be pdf yeah that brings up a whole different camera that's more
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complicated because her her body looks grown no commit to the position is yeah am i a pdf file if
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i'm attracted to sophia which come on commit to the position no because she doesn't look like
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she's 14 she looks like 19 you said in the face that she looks like how about he just saw her face
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he never saw her body then yeah but no but he knows that she's 20 but never seen her face just
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uh excuse me never seen her body just her face but he knows she's 20 is he a pdf file
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well if he knows he's 20 then well help me help me out with this if he didn't know then i would say
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yeah i just i'm just i'm just very if he didn't know yes last question uh just a just a yes or no
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here uh would be appropriate but you can respond long form if you need to i'm just curious these women
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who do have these phenotypical expressions that you say in men and who are attracted to those
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phenotypical expressions are pdf files would that not entail then that that woman should only be
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with men who aren't attracted to her no she should just be with me well i don't understand how could
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she be with a man who was attracted to her unless that man was a pdf file i just think that you
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should probably oh my god damn bro i gotta come to the defense of like women with small titties bro
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you're you're doing a lot you're throwing a lot of shade at like small titty women bro oh my god
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that's crazy you know pull a little respect yeah pull a little respect on the the small
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titty committee wait wait can i please get an answer yeah can you get an answer how could a woman
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who had those phenotypical expressions have a man who's attracted to her and that man not be a pdf
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file can you explain that to me a man who knows her age a man who no no he doesn't get to know her
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through her personality no no he doesn't know her age okay he's attracted to her okay he assumes
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that she's overage right but he's attracted to her the based on those those phenotypes specifically he's
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attracted to her wouldn't all men who approached her to have to do it based on the fact they're not
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and even you know what even better even if they knew her age right but were just attracted to that
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phenotype right you would still have to concede here that this woman could not be with any men
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who were attracted to her based on her phenotype because they would be pdf files therefore no men
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who were attracted to her could actually be with her right i see what you're saying there can you answer
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i'm not gonna like i'm not i'm i'm agnostic on that because i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say
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that women shouldn't find love with men who are of their age just because they look younger i'm not
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gonna say that okay i'm agnostic on that wait that's how about this that's great
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whatever bro uh yeah well i can get a beer um wait how about this so what about women who are
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attracted to tall men i think that this is actually evidence of of uh not not the pdf stuff but it's
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actually evidence of of incestuousness what how are you gonna connect that here you go this is this
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is the same this is the same like totally bogus uh toaster brain logic so because you as a woman when
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you were young you looked up at your father and you like admired your father because he was so he's so
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tall that's that's why you're attracted to tall men is because you look you're you women who are
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attracted to tall men are all incestophobes we're getting into some sigmund freud shit average on
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average men are taller than women so that would explain like i see what you were trying to do brian
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yeah i see what you were trying to do anyways whatever sorry brian didn't work
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is that a dad joke uh we have mustafa i thought you idiots were quitting this stupid joke of the
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podcast here's some dollars used to get the real job all right you're right man thank you must
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i'm gonna become a uh a power line guy or something uh i do also need to do some shout outs here for uh
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we have one uh bunny bunny rabbit on cash app sends in uh five dollars yo thank you w's in the chat for
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bunny rabbit uh guys venmo cash app whatever pod if you want to send it in without any cut going
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all right let's uh get into this here we're gonna have stifler come in here with a question
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stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven
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starting with uh starting you know what hold on i'm gonna go bit out of order here starting with
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you i mean i would pick seven but i guess i'd say eight okay uh going back to mikayla and then back
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i'll say ten ten okay six six all right wow nine that's all right ten ten okay i would say seven
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but six all right i think i'm ten ten okay i'd give myself an eight all right on camera i look like
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an inbred five but in real life i'm a nine wait i missed that last part the the an inbred five on
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camera no no the the last part i think i'm an um an eight okay we'll go with that what do you what do
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you give yourself i stick with a consistent eight i give myself a five andrew what about you
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why i'm clearly a tent oh no andrew wait wait why are you laughing you don't believe that
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not without the beard and you're not you don't believe i'm a 10 not without your makeup on
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it's not just how i feel that makes me beautiful there's something else that makes me beautiful
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other than that what would that those things be my opinion are you asking you know from your
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viewpoint are you a 10 or are you asking from the view of society would you be considered a 10 because
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that's yeah that's what the heart of the question is do you think that we care about the opinion of
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but well first of all most people are going to lie about this right so the thing is is uh yeah
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we're asking you from the observer's standpoint what do you think the observer if there's a hundred
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men who all rated you what would it average out to what would the average be for me personally yeah
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i mean i i don't wear makeup or anything to alter my appearance more towards a higher end of the scale
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so i don't know if that's something to take into consideration but with that said i would say that i
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would be considered around an eight just from what people have told me in the past and that's you know
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just what then i'm a 10. okay you can be a 10. then i think that what i don't understand why are you
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laughing because i don't know what people have rated you i'm not gonna i it sounds like you don't believe
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me okay it sounds like i don't think that looks are the most important thing maybe i'm wait you think
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i'm delusional you think do you think that i think you are delusional from this podcast
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the thing i think about myself in my head isn't true you know i i think that looks aren't the most
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important thing but yeah that's not what i asked you i understand what you're asking me and from my
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perspective you are not my version of a 10. so i can't speak for other people i'm not in their brains
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but from my perspective you're not a tenant yeah i'm not asking you from your perspective i'm asking
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you from the average woman if a hundred average women rated me clearly they'd put me at a 10 right
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i can't speak for the average woman because i do not have the minds i'm not asking you to speak
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for them i'm asking what you think okay so you are asking my me my opinion on how i would rate you
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then i can't speak on how you think other women would rate me so you say are you saying that that's
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still from my opinion though that that's what i would believe you would be rated that doesn't make
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any sense if i intricately don't logic isn't there how all other people feel about being murdered
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i can't make the general statement that they won't like it see so that's something that's a
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moralistic issue your looks are not a moralistic issue before you start spurging out i would like
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you to answer directly the question i'm asking do you think that i could not assess that most people
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in the world would not want to be murdered even though i'm not most people in the world
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that is a moral view can you answer the question i am answering your question i'm just not answering
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it how you'd like that doesn't mean no you just won't answer it period okay so give me a what is
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it is it yes or no because if so give me yes yes or no can i assess that or not repeat your question
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explicitly yeah if i say i don't think most people in the world want to be murdered right can is that a
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fair assessment even though i'm not most people in the world yes but that is a more of the reason
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for that wait stop hold up but let me explain the reason for that the reason before behind that go
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ahead is that that is a moralistic view that is taking someone's life your looks have nothing to do
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with whether or not someone wants to be murdered that is taking their life right so your looks are
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not something that i can objectively say i don't know how people in india would rate you i have my views
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from my perspective in california you think i objectively know their morals no i don't
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objectively know their morals i'm saying from my standpoint i think most other people would not
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want to be murdered and i think that that's what all of them think i could make value assessments on
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what i think other people would think even though i'm not other people you can do the exact same thing
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you can say i think most people would say like oh i don't know a person who came out of the icu with
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half of their face melted off and a phone sticking out of their head and most of their phones missing
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most people wouldn't find them attractive okay so do something parallel do something you could actually
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say that and that would be fine yeah right but do something parallel say like um the you know the
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average person would rate insert celebrity's name at this level like that's a parallel somebody dying or
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being killed is not parallel to your looks and how people would view you i can't say that well wait a
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second then how come i can say with great certainty that a person with half their face melted off who
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was missing most of their bones and you know they had scars all over the place and uh when when most
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people saw them that was the type of person who went oh my god right i can make the value assessment
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that most people would find that unattractive but you're saying that i can't make the determination
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of what most people would find attractive i think that that's silly and by the way you yourself
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already gave us many standards you said earlier in this uh conversation for instance that you think
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that most men are attracted to women between the ages of x and x no i didn't i didn't say i believe
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that that is a scientific study i also studied psychology in school so you're you're considering
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this 21 to 23 that that's saying that that's their peak attractiveness looking at them throughout the
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lifespan versus women must share certain characteristics with each other in this case
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youth right so youthful youthfulness that's women not men unless you identify as a woman i can't rate
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you based off of that no you can because we have in that same study what what most women find
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attractive don't we no so that same age bracket don't we right right so to me again so that makes
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it it makes it my personal opinion because i am of a certain age now if i was of another age let's say
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i was a 50 year old woman like i don't know however old your wife is then i might find you more attractive
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at that age than a younger woman looking at you because it's a different age bracket women i'm not
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they integrate with age men just stay the same they they find 21 to 23 the most attractive
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throughout all age groups women do you think that most people would think okay here do you think
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most people would think a tyrannosaurus rex was big how does that have to do can you answer my question
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do you think most people would think a tyrannosaurus rex was big yes how are you making that value
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assessment you don't have any data for it whatsoever there's not a single study you've read where people
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were pulled about whether or not a tyrannosaurus rex was big hang on stop stop let me finish this is
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illogical stop stop there's not anything you have to base that on other than you have an assessment
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and you think most people would agree with this assessment and you think most people would think
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x but for some reason you can't apply that same standard here tell me why because that is in again
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a comparison between a large group of people right just like you're saying a large group of people would
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not want to be murdered yes that is an easy thing to understand a large group of people who are
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average in height would be much smaller than a t-rex it doesn't even matter if you're the tallest human
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being you're going to be smaller than a t-rex so that is something that can be seen from an objective
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scale now subjectively i can tell you it's not objective big isn't objective big is subjective
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what is big to you is not big to me but we can make the value assessment of what most people you don't
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have any data to prove what most people would find to be big you just make the value assessment for
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some reason though you can't say what most people you think what most people would find attractive
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even though you yourself in this case actually have data for it which would be youth they men are
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attracted to you if that's the case right there's going to be all sorts of shared features okay i i can
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speak from my age bracket for me yes that would be something where you can make it more objective of
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women my age bracket would not find a man as your age as attractive as a man within the four years
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that they are in whatever whether it's 21 whether it's 26 it doesn't matter like they're going to
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find somebody more attractive that is within their age bracket it's scientifically proven now i cannot
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tell you you can make value assessments on behalf of other people look at that within my age bracket
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that is that is well i mean whatever i when i say most women right you're beautiful is that what you
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would like to hear you can make an association between all women in the 20s 30s 40s 50s and 60s
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and still in your head over some type of general average you think would be reasonable
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so if i say i'm a 10 you say well for me you're not 10 for me you're not 10 and i say well what do
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you think most that's a great impression of my voice thank you so much i say what what do you think
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most people would think well i'm sorry you're right it was a bad impression what do you think most
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people would thank you yeah yeah i appreciate that now i'm trying to get better for you that's
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great yeah what what do you think most people would think i think most people would think that
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from no you didn't even have to do the impression i already nailed it thank you i already nailed it
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like you didn't even have you know it's funny because we were having a discussion earlier and
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you were being very kind but after that last discussion you've gotten a lot more aggressive
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because people don't like to answer direct questions they like to do what they do is they do
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what in your boat you would call like a motorboat right where it it goes like this it goes everywhere
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except straight because you have waves you have all this going on yeah yeah yeah so what happens
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is you ever tried to drive a motorboat before yes i have you can't keep it straight on the water not
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when there's waves and so the thing is is like what's going on here is the same thing when i ask
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you a direct question you obfuscate you go to everything except answering the question and i
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don't do that to you so yes it's frustrating for me i answered in a subjective way i cannot answer
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objectively i have not done a poll of these women the data that i'm basing my claims off of are
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thousands of women and thousands of men i cannot objectively create a poll of how attractive you are
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maybe if i did that on social media we could see i'm asking from your subjective metric what you think
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most women would think subjective okay so so that's different that's different that that's not what i
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asked you originally that was not what you originally said and if if it was then we
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miscommunicated and i apologize for my side of that so anyway so that's my question okay so so
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what would i rate you that's your question what do you think most women from your subjective metric
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would rate me okay from my subjective metric i would give you a five and that's also if we talk about
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how you've been berating women i'd give you a four because personality increases what does that have to
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do with my looks it's it's in the expression on nothing it has nothing to do yes nothing yes it
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does self-respect and respect towards others does have to wait i have never spoken i have never spoken
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right you've never spoken you've spoken this whole time
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hold on hold on hold on how can it be that the value assessment of looks goes up if a person has never
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said a word no no no if somebody is a kind human being and they have a good personality that
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automatically increases their points it's that's literally proven charisma what does that have to do
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with anything about looks looks how you look it shows on your face what type of personality you have
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what does it have to do with how a person it's how you hold your face it's like talking to a wall
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what does it have to do with how a person looks andrew now you're a three okay you're losing points
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all right are we gonna get into the negatives wait so i'm i'm just a little bit confused though you
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made a statement about how uh but because he's been bombarding that's not the exact word to use
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bombarding these women so wait just to be clear he simply he's been disagreeing with people yeah yeah
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he's been pretty no no but but this i mean so the original conversation i will say you were very
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kind and and it started off it was positive but then by the end of it you were very impolite
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and not allowing anybody to actually say so i don't consider politeness and or nor do i consider
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niceness to be a virtue okay that's fine so it was my subjective view on your looks and i i
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take that into account to be virtuous if you were a man all right we're just going to keep going
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there's not going to be a solution so let's just stop mrs i love equality am i allowed to talk back
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or no yes sir so mrs mrs i love equality if you're a man sitting right there to talk to you exactly the
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same okay and the only difference is is you wouldn't care because you'd actually answer my in questions
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honestly yeah let's end this conversation all right jay that was great i'm saying you want
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gibberee uh not a good note so i'm gonna read a chat but i have a follow-up thing on this lucas
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actually you know what michaela go for it me yeah she can read it
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and yet again an amalgam of vapid ineptitude combined with diluted and unearned high self-esteem
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okay bubble bursting time each and every one of you ranks as nothing more than a mediocrity wow
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all right lucas coming in hot well we did have a 10 a 9 a 10 and a 10 uh so pretty high you know
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i'm a pretty good casting director getting like the most beautiful women job brian i'm hold on i'm good
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um uh the most gorgeous the most gorgeous in the world you always find them right here on whatever
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you know what i'm i need i need some more you know maybe i'll hire somebody i mean we need some
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background characters you know so we'll see um but you do have one man here who's a 10 so i mean
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that is that is you and all other men are held andrew that is true i mean to be fair andrew you
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without the beard i downgrade you to a nine from a 10. that's what i was saying you need to get the
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beard back okay all right just saying this has had an absolutely biased opinion i will not have
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i do have a beard assaulted this way by you brian all right i apologize i'm sorry um
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well wait a second hang on now oh now i'm being mean again right that's that's that's me being
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mean and can you i saw tone police miss tone police back there shaking her head look i'm sorry totally
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i'm sorry i made a joke it's okay calm down we do have a message from uh we got a message from
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rachel wilson andrew wilson's wife when andrew finally oh we should do a rachel wilson cameo uh when
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andrew finally loses his cool a bit after three hours of trying to get you to answer a simple
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question in a straightforward way you accuse him of being difficult while no self-awareness
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that's from rachel wilson andrew wilson's wife maybe maybe a cameo later andrew yeah you know that's
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the thing that gets me right it's like i actually hold uh you women to your same standard right so i
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literally hold you to your same standard i agree with you that you deserve to be treated with respect so
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what i want to do is ask you straightforward questions and get straightforward answers and
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i'll do the exact same to you this is how i communicate with every man on planet earth
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for reasons i don't understand immediately if the hey is this true goes well it could be
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because it's based on it's like no you don't believe any of that just give me the actual answer
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uh somehow that's not being nice or that's not being polite yet when i talk to men this problem
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doesn't exist it's almost like there's a standard which they're holding that they think women should
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be held to as opposed to standards men should be held to which is why i don't believe in this
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equality shit i don't believe it i just don't believe them personally what i do want to uh get into
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here is uh there are a couple a couple tens at the table do you guys think those of you who ranked
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yourself a 10 and we did have one nine so the nine gets to jump into uh do you guys think that all women
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are tens no no what into the mics guys no no no oh okay that's good anybody does anybody think all
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women are tens anybody going once going twice can you point it okay can you point at any woman at the
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table ashley who's not a tent go ahead and point at her just any anyone will do just uh just a single
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one would be okay no it's fine just just one yeah i'm gonna go get another beer all right
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we don't want to be held to a different standard oh yeah uh we're gonna do a follow-up question on this
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so do you think some of you said 10 9 so you're very attractive right now um but moving into the
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future uh do you think you will be better looking better looking in 10 years time mikayla you're 22
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uh do you think you'll be better looking 10 years time at 32 um yeah okay what about 20 years time 42
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yeah i don't know okay uh 40 40 sure 40 years time 62 um yeah sure uh 50 years time 72 yeah
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it took some milk okay uh 60 years time 82 yeah
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70 years time 92 yeah 80 years time 102 yeah i'm still alive no you're still yeah i know you're
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still alive are you are you more attractive when's your peak when are you gonna peak uh like attractive
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as in like my physically like look look better yeah she just walked all the way up to 100
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she's gonna be hot she's gonna be hot that's fantastic like in the nursing home just like
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macking on the alzheimer's not like attractive as in like like so there's no personality in it at all
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or like no better looking just looks just straight up looks when's your peak like 72 or i don't
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um maybe 30 30. okay so backtracked a little bit a little little backtrack just a little 70 year
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backtrack all right 30 years old all right you're 20 uh better looking in 10 years time at 30. no
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maybe like five years but not 10. okay all right uh you're 20 years old better looking 10 years time
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at 30. yeah probably i probably have some plastic surgery by then what if you didn't have the plastic
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surgery still better looking probably not okay let's but we'll keep with the plastic surgery 20
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years time at 40. i'll still look good but i won't look better probably not yeah and just just
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clarification um you can still be attractive 30 40 50 you know uh that's not what i'm saying
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there's plenty of women tracked but it's like a comparison to how you look now versus 10 years 20
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years 30 years if you'll be better looking um so 20 years time at 40 yes no no okay uh you're 23
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shelby better looking in 10 years time at 33 yeah better looking in 20 years time 43 no okay you're
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20 years old better looking in 10 years time at 30 yeah better look 20 years time 40 yeah 30 years
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like it like 40 i feel like right there okay yeah got it uh 40 better than 30 or 30 better than 40
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um 30 better than 40. okay but 40 still better than 20. no actually no let me go back 40 40 sorry wait oh 40
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okay but then not 50 though no okay all right you're uh you're wait hold on you're 33 sorry i got numbers
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mixed up you're 33 better looking in 10 years time at 43 probably not okay and you're 33 where are you
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better looking now 33 than you were at 23 yes okay uh you're 25 better looking in 10 years time at 35
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yeah 20 years time 45 probably not okay uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years time at 31. yes but
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after 35 now okay is 35 the peak i i would think yeah by 35 i would start to be as attractive and then
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you're 28 better looking in 10 years time at 38. no but milf energy still
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all right and then uh you're 28 better looking uh 10 years ago at 18 i'm better looking now better
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looking now but going to uh back to you uh you seem to acknowledge that uh you you cited a study that
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they did where men found women between i think you said what is it 18 to 23 24. i know that contradicts
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my point yeah so so um on that personally i think that i right now am not as fit as i will be at that
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age because i plan on circumnavigating so i'll be on my boat full time i'll be fishing i'll be diving
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i'll be doing my own like work on the whole so i'll be a lot more fit since i'll be making all my own food
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i'll have to like garden off the back of my boat and i just think that lifestyle i will be at the point
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where i'm going to be more attractive physically because it's such manual labor that i will have
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more muscle mass and i'll be more what about all the sun exposure yeah that's exactly what i was
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gonna say i was like i also make my own sunblock so i'm i mean right now you can see how white i am
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i mean even with sunblock there are going to be some like aging yeah by 50 by 50 for sure that's why i
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said 35 like i think 35 that's also you have to realize i mean as women get older they start to lose
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muscle mass so that's something that i think will make me less attractive right your skin gets a little
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bit looser unless you do something to fix that and you lose muscle mass so i am real about that and
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i think yeah once i you know start to age i'm not going to be as attractive after 35.
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uh damien do we have how many batches do we have one or two you know what we we have we have used
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technology to age all of you forward and we're going to review some photos and we're going to
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see you know do you you better look in some of you said i mean over here 102 she's going to be
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she's going to be sugar spice everything nice so um let's pull it up
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you're so cute that's not bad okay that's really not bad that's you know what age is that so sweet
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oh no chick's a milf that's like uh uh 40 50 maybe and you hey you said you're going to be like
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babe status till 100 when i'm at the retirement home i'll come find you all right there you go
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all right uh next whoa wait hold on you you kind of became white i don't know what happened
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you look like a white woman i don't know uh i mean i get it okay next oh my god
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oh my god it's so bad what happened with the jaw on this one go back too
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no it's it's racism it's racism there's no way i'm not gonna look one sec go back go back to
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mikayla uh so i'm gonna have each of you uh pick uh more attractive younger picture or more attractive
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aged oh yeah my younger my younger attractive okay next younger younger self more attractive here okay
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next i think which one's more attractive oh my gosh younger yeah okay next
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like a trailer park younger that actually looks realistic which one more attractive ouch
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i i i think she's gonna look better than that she's gonna look better but it looks real
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which one uh the younger one okay next these are all you know younger younger honestly like photogenic
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everybody is everybody why do i look like no that gave me like muffin face like it looks like a
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there's something going on with the darker skinned women yeah the jaw the jaw is not working it's not
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not registering what next oh you're so cute you look like you make really good cookies
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still got that lesbian energy that is what i'm talking about
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that's actually not that's not bad which one's which one is do you think is more attractive um
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i think younger okay next i don't want to see it yeah that was horrible what did it do to my that's
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not bad it's not not even bad it's like you have botox on your forehead uh yeah i just got a big wait
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is there a difference no there's none actually which one's there's a bit there's a bit man you have
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the best one so far yeah okay all right i mean uh yeah okay uh surfer chick next oh you're so cute
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does she look a bit like britney spears a little bit
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i don't know okay and then next in college they would just scream britney let's see it
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oh my god you look like you look like the doctor off of race anatomy
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not the natural aging process do you have another batch or that was it okay check if another one
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comes through but uh all right we have uh i'm gonna have uh bella read this one go ahead bella
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from lucas thank you lucas props brian always bringing tens uh a caval cavalcade of the face
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that lost our face that launched a thousand ships all hell hellens of troy of troy
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crew come on you know how to say this you know the second oh circum there you go
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oh you're too slow here i'll pull it back up i'm literate uh looks like we got ourselves a snowflake
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who's that i don't what this is roasting with that this is like i was gonna circumnavigate
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what is a ferdinand who is that and also isn't snowflake snowflake a liberal
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i guess a conservative could be a snowflake i think a snowflake
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lucas w's in the chat for lucas man like someone who's easy does anyone know who that is
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ferdinand i i don't tell you i know who helen of troy is i need to do a couple shout outs here
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super quick guys if you want to support without a cut being taken venmo cash app whatever pot uh
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call in thank you for the 10 if you're not doing the pod do you have any trade skills i don't harrison
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douglas thank you for the five on venmo fishing lol yo thank you man appreciate it all right guys
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we are going to uh actually wait the whole wait hold on i have a i have a question before you move
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on go for it for the for the male guest actually i was i've been kind of taking some notes um as
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you've been kind of issuing out some of your arguments one of the things you said i think i may
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take disagreement with you brought up that you think that young women should be attached to
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finance wait sorry one thing i got it i gotta interrupt really quick i'll let you i'll let
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that conversation go canute raided with a yo uh canute i i know who you are man he's like a shredded
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like bodybuilder guy also i think he's plays world of warcraft yo thank you so much for the raid man
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appreciate it um this guy's like a streamer og uh really appreciate the raid dude i didn't know you
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watched uh the podcast thank you so much man uh we also got a bodybuilder here you want to maybe
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you know him do you know canute i i've never give him a double buy i can't even see what fuck bruv
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oh my there we go bro yo uh thank you so much for the raid man we're actually um we are talking about
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uh nothing to do with bodybuilding or world of warcraft all right i don't know what is he yo uh
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hold on i'll pull up the twitch chat what what was he streaming uh the raiders from can am i
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first off canute am i saying his name right am i saying his name right let me do a shout out shout
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out uh canute what was he streaming uh twitch chat what was he streaming tell me newt yes canute is
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right he was arguing with ai somebody in the chat says drop the cycle blonde guy uh 100 he was
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lifting he was lifting in the gym oh he mostly does irl i i think i i was watching the uh the only
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things meeting from a couple days ago and i saw him i think i saw him he was like the the rip guy in
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the beanbag yeah i saw him yo canute man really appreciate the raid anyways um back to it sorry sorry
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andrew i just wanted to uh shout it out just because it came in right then and there the
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show the show must go on show must go on um go ahead andrew must go on so you were when you were
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talking earlier one point of agreement that you seem to have quite a bit is that young women should
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focus on uh choosing based on finance i think that it's okay for them to do that yeah i don't have
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anything against they should do that you agreed that they should i think that they should choose
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someone who has the ability to provide for them yeah i agree that maybe i shouldn't say should i don't
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think that there is a moral problem with a woman deciding to be with a man because of his financial
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situation that's how i sure is sure do you do you think though that that's extremely valuable to a woman
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to be with a man who's financially set do i think it's extremely valuable i think it is valuable
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yeah i think it's valuable yeah i agree so my question is don't you think that young people
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are really stupid when it comes to money and the assessment of money and the assessment of a future
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planning for themselves when it comes to money most most young men yes 100 then why wouldn't you
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promote arrange marriages i actually that's really funny that you get into that because
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i am not completely opposed to arrange marriages i i really don't have i don't have that big of a
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problem with it in fact my mom teases me about that because she says brandon will just have to get
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an arranged marriage for you yeah so you're not but you're not opposed to arrange marriage i'm not
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completely opposed to it considering the person that chooses the match does you know knows i would
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say knows both the parties and under under understands understands good matchmaking i would
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honestly i would be afraid i would get set up with someone that i wouldn't want to be with but then
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again that is the downside of arranged marriages so well the father and mother would be the chooser
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right yeah and i think i think my parents would do a pretty good job what if they can't agree who
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get who gets to make the ultimate decision definitely my dad your dad okay so then so then ultimately you
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would be a patriarchist right yes well okay yeah then that word is loaded but yes talk why all this talk
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of egalitarianism from you tonight why all this equally on equalization talk from you what what are you
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talking about the egalitarian what have i said that was equality i'm well yeah go ahead no no you go
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ahead you can no i i am i am not pro equality uh in terms of yeah like the discussion that was going
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on earlier i think that i think that you were right when you say that christianity is patriarchal and
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i very much agree with the church's decision to not have females in the clergy okay gotcha i wanted to get
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some of these so here's the thing right um you've been somewhat okay i'm not gonna lie to you right
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you've been a bit attacked in these chats um because well one they don't know you and we haven't
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really gotten a chance to get to any of your positions and i think now is a good shot you get
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a good time to actually get to some of those positions that sounds great yeah so you are a
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patriarchist you do believe in arranged marriage you do think that that's actually a good idea it's not
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not the worst idea if we come down to an arranged marriage it should be the father who chooses
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yeah i would i would say that it that would that could be the case yeah gals at the table can i just
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get a raise of the hand any of you who would agree with that nobody's agreeing with that one nobody
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oh wow you got one for business reasons for business reasons can you not have the hat on what
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you want to expand on that um um i have to think about a little bit but two families coming together
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for the greater good um i just putting your all your work and blood together and money is part of
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okay all right well i just wanted you know it's nice to get your positions out there a little bit
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you know what i mean there's been a there's been quite a bit of crosstalk and it seemed like there was
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a lot of ground given when we would get to kind of the uh the talk of egalitarianism but it's hard to
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determine from these from the listener standpoint if this is an internal critique you're doing
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or if these are positions you hold and so there's a good chance for you to expound on those positions
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does that make sense yeah for sure no i think that the man is the is the patriarch of the family i think
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that he has the overall say i think that society in general should be based more around the nuclear family
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and the man assuming those positions i think that we've steered away from that i think that
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it ultimately it ultimately points us in the direction of chaos as women become more masculinized
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and you know men become more feminized you know part of my job you know as a fitness coach and with a
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lot of the guys that i work with i honestly i just help them become more masculine and sort of take on
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more masculine roles i encourage them you know as a coach to go out there and try to become more of
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a man so that we can continue to advance society in the right direction because i think there's been a
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lot of chaos with equality and i yeah i don't i don't agree with equality i don't think there should
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be equality before brian moves on i'm sorry yeah i i understand how this always seems to the guests but
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because there's so many people here you try to get to all of them um so just kind of my last question
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is like ultimately if we were to ultimately reduce your worldview to like some semblance of a thing
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that we could easily make uh palatable to everybody who's listening it sounds like you're on the kind
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of christian nationalist also patriarchy camp would that be correct i would i would say that that is
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correct can i ask you a question what am i getting roasted for in the chat i'm genuinely interested
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what's the biggest well listen you have to understand that if people don't know you and
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you have thousands upon thousands of people watching you not everybody always understands
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the distinction between if you're doing an internal criticism meaning you say hey let's dive into these
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views i agree with this i don't agree with this versus your actual stance do you understand the
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distinction yeah thank you for giving me the opportunity to sort of put that out there yes
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i'm very pro patriarchy i'm not pro equality and yeah i'm a christian nationalist is an extreme
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way of putting it but yeah i definitely do think overall you know this nation should return to basic
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christian values i was raised my dad's a pastor so he's a pastor presbyterian pastor and
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i went to school and i studied you know christian apologetics and things along those lines
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that's that's my camp well we got we got that out of the way there you go thank you all right um
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can i have you read this michaela oh boy thank you lucas before it disappears holy
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shit the level of illuracy mcgallen was the first man to circumnavigate the globe you are a snowflake
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your butt hurt because andrew isn't nice he's direct pointed and forthright that's laughable
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laudable okay yeah quick response quick quick response please okay well i'm sorry that i also
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hurt your feelings apparently because you felt the need to put that in the chat but i didn't know who
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the first person was who circumnavigated so thank you for that that's good knowledge to have
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thank you but just just also it's just magellan yeah okay magellan i was
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what okay i don't understand no you're just a little solipsistic like i feel like you think
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everything is directed to you or about you but i was actually directing i was making the magellan
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what just forget it just forget it um i didn't follow that one so yeah um all right um
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well pull up twitch really quick because i just want to shout out twitch yo guys if you're still
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here from uh canute thank you again for the raid man uh there it is canute uh guys drop us a follow
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and a prime sub if you have one guys if you enjoy these streams just drop us a follow if you have a
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prime sub drops a prime sub sabrina thank you for the prime bronzy thank you for the prime appreciate
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it guys thank you thank you all right let's get back into it uh we have a lot to get over so i'm
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going to try to do it as quickly as possible uh let's go to mecca mecca you said why do you guys
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think that just because you had something casual with them that you want to move things further like
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can we keep things chill no label be cool not looking for anything more
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yeah because i feel like some guys like if you think they're cute or like you hooked up with them
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i feel like they think as a girl like you're more emotionally like attached and it's like no you're
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just cute that's it that's all like i don't want to be anything with you i don't want to further this
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but like i feel like they get that like they're like you know you want to keep talking to them it's
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like yeah we can still be friends but that's it are you saying that you you're using men for sex and
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they're having a problem with that too i mean they no i get the problem they're like well they like
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automatically think that i think or girls in general think that oh she wants more it's like no do you
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think that the assumption is correct that most women tend to pair bond with men obviously like during
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sex and that's why they expect the woman to become more emotionally attached or do you not believe
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that that's a fair assumption um i mean i've met girls like that but i've also met girls like
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that have the same like ideas me it's like you can still like hook up or like be casual and like
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leave it at that do you would you say that that's a masculine quality for a woman to have to use
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a man to want to use someone for sex um i guess i don't really thought about it that way but
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because you know guys women are becoming hyper masculine can i say something here from a
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scientific perspective women actually release oxytocin um when they have sex with somebody
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at least once they've had sex three times versus men don't so that it is true that women will be
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bonded to a man you know whether or not you actually give into that and you like force yourself to not
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have that your brain's still going to release the oxytocin if you've slept with a man for more than three
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times versus men don't have that reaction actually sometimes if they have sex with a woman and they're
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not in love with them yeah they have the opposite reaction where they no longer find that woman
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attractive which is a very if i sleep with a woman she releases it on the first time
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brian you're a virgin brian stop what do you say yes what do you say do you feel more empowered
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by like going around and sleeping with men and then sort of almost getting back at them at
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sort and sort of using them for sex because girls so often use men for heaven forbid these men want
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a relationship oh my god these fucking they're terrible people these fucking scumbag
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wanting a relationship with you mecca fuck those guys wait
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fuck those pieces of shit you're a single mother aren't you so you're you're a single wait you are
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right yeah so you're a single mother and you're not looking for like actively not looking for a
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relationship yeah no i don't even like i'm like saying that as like when i was like younger like
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i noticed like a lot of guys be like they think you want more and it's like no like we could just you
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know fucking move on from all of my experiences with single mothers i feel like they are no i can tell
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you with 100 certainty every single single mother that i have had an interaction with was desperate
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to be in a relationship that is a that's a personal thing so i can say that you are i get hit up by
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single moms a lot i can genuinely say you're the first single mother i have ever met that wasn't
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actively looking to get into it yeah because i feel like for me also it's like i don't want to introduce
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another guy into my kid's life that why because i would have to like get to know you for like a
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good while because that's just like the different level but don't you think that the kid having a
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father figure is well she still has her dad just because we're not together okay so they you guys
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split the time yeah okay okay so she does have a father yeah okay but you obviously broke it off with
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this man because you thought that he had characteristics that you didn't like that
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you didn't really want to continue to be associated with so why would you let that rub off on your
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daughter instead of going out and actively seeking to find like a masculine man that can be a good
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example for your kid well i broke off with my my kid's dad because he cheated so people always say
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oh you're not a good example i'm like why would i want my daughter to stay with someone that cheated on
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her especially while you're pregnant dealing like with like being a mom for like the first four
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months i wouldn't want my kids to go through that so so wouldn't you want to find another man that
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wouldn't do that that would instill those values in your child yeah but that's not my priority right
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now and also like you don't have a kid right no i do not so i feel like once you do have a
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i'm a virgin you don't want everyone around your kid like you wouldn't want everyone around you
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you wouldn't want just any guy meeting your kid so you'd have to vet them yeah yeah of course do you
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think that i have a question for you do you think your kid would approve or would you approve of your
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kid like being who you are right now going out and like sleeping with guys and not looking for
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a relationship is it a daughter it's a son right it's a girl it's a girl okay so perfect that fits
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the analogy if you would you approve would you want your daughter going out and sleeping with multiple
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men not looking for a relationship if she wants to do that she wants to just
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who am i to tell her no she's gonna be a grown woman you think you'll say that when you're older when
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she's out there doing that exact same thing do you think you'll give her that advice you know
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she's over 18 and it's consensual and she can fuck who she wants to fuck i don't give god i don't care
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that's very interesting it's just interesting what do you think her um just just a quick question
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like let's say that you were with a good man what do you think he would say wait what if you were with
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a good man right who was like an excellent role model for your daughter what do you think he would
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say um my question was posed to him my kid's dad or the guy the new no no that's not what i ask listen
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listen closely what i'm asking if you were with a very good man what do you think his response to
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the same question you were just asked would be um i don't think he could say anything because that's not
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his kid so i wouldn't even allow him to be in that place to say to her so then if you were with a good
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man you would say that the good man's place was not to tell his stepdaughter not to be permiscuous
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um i feel like a good man for me would have the same like ideas
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so the good man not sure why that triggered again but okay a good man to me would like someone
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that's like uh like-minded and thinking so if if i don't care what my kid's doing and that's not your
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kid you shouldn't care either well why would he ever want to be in the position to uh be a stepfather
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to your kid if he was not in a position of authority well to a certain extent but well what
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extent he's not allowed to have input on her promiscuous lifestyle like what she's over 18
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no because she's an adult why not she can make her own i'm sorry do you does do you have a mom in
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your life yeah does she give you advice yeah aren't you over 18 that doesn't mean i have to listen
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yeah but what did she tell you i asked what he would say not that she would listen
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is it your mom's place when she gives you all that unasked advice that you don't
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fucking care about where you're like shut up mom i'm tired of hearing this i hate
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enough mom enough get out of my business mom no but she doesn't care she gets in your business
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anyway because she loves you right yeah yeah and so don't you think a good man would do the same thing
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yeah but most parents don't really like i don't talk to mom like she doesn't ask me about
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like sex and stuff like but every every parent and a child has like well hang on does is it that
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she wouldn't care or is it that you'll admit it like if you went to your mom and you were like hey
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mom you know like i've been sleeping with a lot of dudes would she be like uh yeah you should stop
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doing that she would probably like girl why are you telling me this really yeah she wouldn't she
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wouldn't give you advice like stop doing that she would probably just say are you being safe about
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it but she wouldn't she's not like you know like that to say anything like negative about it
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um i mean yeah i mean it's not really her place yeah what i mean where does her place end
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what do you mean well like do you ever call your mom and go hey it fucked up and i need some money
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or hey i fucked up and i need a place to stay or hey i need some help with this or hey mom can you
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help me with this and you should do that because you're my mom sometimes yeah but isn't the expectation
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the same if you're the kid you hold the dignity and the the charity of the entire family and so
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our name lives on through you so i have certain expectations for you isn't that totally reasonable too
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yeah but what goes on like that type of stuff that's not really like public information so it
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doesn't really matter i need a final point on this all right what i'm saying is is that i think a good
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parent step parent or not if the answer is what would your what would the step badge say if you're
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asked the same question he was a good man your response is the same thing as me i wouldn't stop
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her from being promiscuous and doing bad life decisions and things like that i would say the
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opposite is true if you had a good man a good man that he would say no don't be promiscuous stop doing
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all of this behavior it's bad for you and bad for everybody else i think that would be good
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parenting adult or not by the way wouldn't you say i would say that to somebody who wasn't my kid
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who was an adult right what what's actually wrong with that well how is um exploring her sexuality how
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would that be bad per se if she's doing it safe and consensually how would that be bad if she wants
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to sleep and you know what she doesn't like using let me ask you a question if you don't hear this
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very quickly brian if you have zero sex zero none what are your chances of contracting a sexually
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transmitted disease none obviously what are your chances of getting pregnant none okay so then any
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sex is actually unsafe sex isn't it well not if you're using protection now even if you're using
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protection protection cannot work right the pill may not work you could still get pregnant condoms
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break right there the only chance that you have of zero percent is what none none yeah sorry and i'm not
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trying to rag on you i just think that you know based off of the studies all the studies that i've seen
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say that if you want your child to grow up like the best to be the most successful to be the best
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person there's usually a very positive father figure very positive female like mother figure
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you know in their life giving them direction on what to do and it sounds to me like the situation
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that you're putting yourself in going out and engaging with hookup culture is ultimately what
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leads to unplanned pregnancies and even men going out and cheating and things along these lines just lack
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of like sexual control and control over your urges is ultimately what bleeds into these problems in
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the first place and leads a leaves a lot of children fatherless or motherless or something like that
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wolf ray had donated two hundred dollars the woman in the green dress with tattoos is the most beautiful
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woman i have ever seen wow show more often oh all right there you go there you go hey give a response you
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gotta give a response to wolf thank you that's so sweet all right thank you wolf do appreciate it
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and then we have uh crazy ace who just gifted 20 subs yo guys uh this is over on twitch w's in the chat
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for uh crazy crazy ace thank you so much man appreciate the gifted 20 thank you dude all right let's get
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into the rest of the notes here uh daya did i did i say right yeah daya okay uh you write you're an
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ex-model sailor who's christian you believe in not sleeping around and hold christian values you think
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you could be a voice of reason to millions of girls falling down the rabbit hole of today's
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societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality what do you mean by that
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well that's a lot to dive into but i'll try to try to be brief if you can yeah as briefly um i don't
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think that hookup culture is positive in our society i think that it's degrading our basic nuclear
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families and i think that it's leading a lot of women to feel a false sense of empowerment when
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you're really giving up your power um i think that being abstinent having a husband waiting till
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marriage if you can you know that is the best option um i also do think that stuff you know like
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sex work which this is going to be controversial but i think that doing sex work you know is leading
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more towards people's addictions and sins that would be avoided if there wasn't such a large
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industry for that you know if there's no supply you know there's still going to be demand but there's
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not as much access to that so i think that's degrading our culture when you say um in the name of
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equality though in your original message that you sent i mean what is the equality that you object to
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can you can you go further with that i don't completely understand your question well you said i think
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i could be the voice of reason to millions of girls falling down the rabbit hole of today's
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societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality right what components or aspects of
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equality do you object to i don't believe that giving your body to men is making you equal how does
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that oh um how does that pertain to equality because hookup culture is encouraging women to go out
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and basically take your power it's saying take back your power like empower yourself by sleeping
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around with as many wait wait wait wait back back way up for me dude yeah hookup culture when you
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talk about culture culture's people so this is not this is not like some intangible thing that this
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like product of the mind that you're talking about when you say hookup culture you're talking about
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people yes people encouraging well so what i'm talking about is feminism feminism is ultimately what's
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trying to encourage women to go out i think i think men do it too like i think that there are men
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involved but i think that ultimately feminism nowadays is encouraging women go take power of your
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own body sleep with whoever you want to sleep with but i want to get her position though so
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you said it's societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality
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what in the name of equality what equality are you objecting to i don't know how a hookup culture
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pertains to equality so women are you know arguing that by sleeping with men you're taking back your
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power in sex which is making that what's that have to do with equality though okay so you're talking about
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equality in like the sexual connotation right like equality in sex so since women are now sleeping
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with whoever they want men have slept with whoever they wanted for centuries that they were prostitutes
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like that was a very common thing but now it's the average person that is just having sex without
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thinking of the consequences or you know without having any restraint wait but hold on but for an
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individual man to engage in a casual sex act it there's a corresponding woman also engaged in the
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casual sex act there's always been equality when it comes to casual sex because in order to have
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casual sex there's two people okay so i don't understand your right right what you're saying at
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all so so it used to be prostitution right like there were concubines that was a thing right throughout
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all of history you can see prostitution now women were always um valued on their their virtue right
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like people used to literally take women and check their virginity to before they could get married
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that was a so wait are you saying so i'm saying that there's more prostitution
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ergo that's equality no i'm saying no no no that's not my point at all so what's your point
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okay now what i'm saying is that it is the average woman who is acting as the average man has act which
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is not creating equality it's breaking down the nuclear family so by having women and men you know
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agree into this symbiotic relationship of hookup culture right of sleeping with each other with no
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strings attached or very casually outside of the you know confines of marriage it's against the bible
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so you know i don't agree with it because of that but also before i was even christian i didn't believe
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in hookup culture for taking back your power which is what the feminist movement says is sleeping with
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other men you know dressing provocatively that's going to bring back your power i don't necessarily
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what is the goal of feminism excuse me what is the goal of feminism now no yeah equality equality
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yes so the so if they want equality who do they want equality with men and so that that this must
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entail that they were oppressed by men so then this would entail that you believe that women also were
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oppressed by men so you believe that women have been oppressed by men yes i see go ahead with your
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ink word i just wanted to get that out on the table yes yeah i do i do believe that i think in the past we
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weren't treated as equals that's fair we weren't allowed to wait wait hold on no no this is a little
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contradictory here because you're saying women were not treated as equals this is unfair but you're saying
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that today's societal norms inflicted upon women in the name of equality so which is it is equality
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bad or is it good i don't think that people should be having sex outside of marriage for different
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reasons i think that that is not something that you should try to be equal with men it's something that
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you should not allow that to be so mainstream in society it's not that that's you know arguing you
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know if if men and women should be equal it's that i don't believe that sex outside of marriage is
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okay like i i don't i don't personally agree with it you know it is a sin and and so that's why you
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know i've become celibate is because of that is because of the fact that you know i don't believe
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that that's okay so no i'm not arguing about equality as a whole i'm saying women you know now
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the feminist movement is arguing that if you give your body to these men then you are taking back your
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power and that's not taking back your power you're giving it away more that is not at all what is you
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know the meant outcome by that you're supposed to feel empowered so many women will tell you
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i've had friends confining me you know hey i hooked up with this guy i felt like crap after i cried it's
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like that is not taking back your power you are giving yourself to a man and that is a very serious
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thing and that's why it's supposed to be in the confines of marriage wait can i ask you a question
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i think that's a great message on i have to move it on uh you say you don't uh you dated some top nfl
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nba and millionaires but ultimately ended up dating your best friend how so you said you dated some
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top nfl nba players how did you one how did you meet them um just can you guys not do the sidebar
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please sorry good um just just from modeling i did meet a lot of people that were you know quote
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unquote high status and i don't think that that's something that should be um what women are going for
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is what i was trying to say there is like i found my partner who i believe will be my future i'm sorry
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you're too far from the mic okay sorry i'm tall if you can just try to remember yeah okay um i found
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my partner who i believe to be my future husband and my best friend you know there were these quote
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unquote high status men that were pursuing me and i don't think that that makes a man you know more
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eligible i think that you should find somebody who you're compatible with on a mental and you know
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emotional level rather than trying to chase the status or chase the money like i don't think that
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it's okay and i know you know there's a disagreement on the panel with that but i don't think that you
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should chase a man just for money you know um you said you dated some top nfl nba how many different
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nfl players did you date so when i say date i mean like i went on a date with i realized very uh recently
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that people have a different idea of dating than i do because i don't really i haven't dated that many
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people i've been in serious relationships for most of my life were you in a serious relationship with
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no no no a nfl or a nba player um a professional soccer player yes and a professional hockey player
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but you were in relationships those were all very short and i nhl was he an nhl player yeah and then uh
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what's the soccer the america i mean he was in portugal so that i don't was he in the is it the
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premier league or damien do you watch uh like european soccer and those were those were all very
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short relationships they were within a few months i realized that i wasn't really interested in
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was this was this before you were a christian yes okay and i did not sleep with them if that's your
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next question you didn't sleep with any of them no i was actually celibate before i was christian
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those were my morals anyways um i see i found christianity i found christ after but i have always
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believed that this is the way you also you also said you dated millionaires plural i mean i live
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in you know i live in california now but before when i was modeling i've been modeling since i was 16
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and so i met a lot of high profile people again when i say date i mean i went on a date with and
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i realized now that that's not very clear like i've gone on multiple dates with people like this and
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i've realized the only point of that message was that that's not what's important when it comes to
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a man you should find somebody that you're compatible with it doesn't matter their status it doesn't
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matter what they look like it doesn't matter their height it doesn't matter you know how much money
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they have in their pocket you should find somebody that you can their height doesn't matter you're
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you said you're a model right how tall are you i'm 5'10 how tall is your boyfriend he's 6'4 but i've
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dated a guy who's hold up i've dated a guy who was 5'4 so yeah but you said dated your definition of
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dating means a guy you went on a date with yeah like i could see a girl giving a 5'4 guy like maybe you
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access some guys lie about their height so you dated a guy but he misled you on his height i
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thought it was i thought it was cute that's what every guy wants to hear he's cute um but women say
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this shit like oh height doesn't matter how tall is your boyfriend he's in the one percentile he's in
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the top percentile of height i'm also in the one percentile though i'm taller than the average man so
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right give me some credit but you're probably taller than you i'm 5'10 i don't care that's fine
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so you're 5'10 yeah well yeah but like i think it's a guy taller than you could be 5'11 or six
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foot which is much more common than 6'4 that's like the 99th percentile my boyfriend didn't pick
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his height and i didn't pick him for his height like i know but you say he was my best friend for
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two years oh i know and then you ask the girl okay how tall is all your exes how tall is your current
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boyfriend i don't care about how he's he's above he's like in the top percentile of height that's
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that's fair it's like you say that but the men you end up with oh he's 6'4 that's fair that's
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crazy i mean it does make it difficult with the boat because he doesn't fit headspace wise so oh
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yeah you should have disqualified how is he gonna live on the boat with you i'm gonna have to get
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a bigger one yeah you got to get a bigger i'm gonna have to upgrade so all right is he a professional
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athlete or no no he did play basketball but he's in college um yeah yeah now he's still pretty pretty
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up there so okay um all right well that's cool um and then uh all right and then you said next thing
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you you don't believe the girls are gonna love this one you don't believe makeup to be super
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beneficial to women you you live naturally and that may offend a lot of people uh do you want to flesh
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out your position like what do you think about makeup so i mean i make all my own products like i make
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my own laundry detergent i make sorry i'm like way too tall for this um i make my own laundry
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detergent like i make my own sunscreen i make all my own hair care which i've been figuring it out with
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curly hair it's more difficult than it might seem i make all my own skin care like everything i do i
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make it myself i make my own toothpaste everything and so living naturally i've realized that a lot of
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the things that you know we put on a day-to-day basis like this is cotton so i only try let's get to
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the makeup stuff right okay so so makeup is toxic chemicals right so it's it's literally bleeding
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into your into your body it's going through your skin your skin's permeable which isn't positive
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you know you're putting all these crazy things they used to put literally lead in makeup and people
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you know dealt with that for for yeah that was through ignorance though yeah of course it was
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through ignorance but i also not even from a you know physical standpoint don't think that that's
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positive for women's health i also don't think that it's positive for their mental health
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because if every single day you have to put on makeup and then you know you start to see yourself
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and i used to wear makeup like it i mean i still sometimes will put on some lipstick like i now make
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my own stuff if i'm going to use it but i don't you know regularly use it when you wear makeup you become
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a different are you are you wearing makeup are you wearing lipstick right now no you can see my finger
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so i'm just well i'm just curious uh my lips are chapped though i was sailing yesterday
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um okay so you're not wearing any makeup no my whole face is this is that's why i look so red on
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camera right now because like my face is flushed um you can tell i'm not wearing foundation that would
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be covered and also the fact i just touched my cheeks and they got redder so are you anti-makeup
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okay um it's okay it's fine if you have that position yes yes i am okay debbie's in the chat for
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so uh ladies what do you guys think can i say why oh you want to speak more okay go ahead
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okay one last thought okay yeah one last thought go ahead
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go ahead go ahead okay you're a little verbose is all okay a little verbose okay i want to let let
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the okay okay all right one more thing then everyone yeah one more two things and three things
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but okay go ahead all i'm gonna say is that once you've stopped wearing makeup the first month is
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really bad like you feel bad about yourself because you do look better with makeup it's made to make you
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more attractive however you start to feel more confident in your own skin when you stop wearing it
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because you're no longer looking in the mirror and waking up in the morning thinking i don't look like
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how i want to look you start to accept yourself how you are and that's what i've found through it
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now it might be your form of self-expression but i've found personally that that's made me a lot
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any girls uh here at the table she's anti-makeup we got some pro makeup girls here i mean some women
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here pro makeup pro makeup mikayla bella what do you think pro makeup pro makeup anybody yeah i don't
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think everyone's gonna suffer like these mental health effects of like yeah differently like i
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don't actually wear makeup day to day i only wear makeup when i'm gonna be on camera and i think i
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look great without makeup and you know i don't like i don't like i see where you're coming from how it
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might distort some women's like personal image of themselves but that's why i think you know there
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should probably be like a like an age to like a level of maturity to where like women start wearing
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makeup but like i don't think that it's just i don't really think it's that damaging i don't
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think it's any more damaging than wearing flattering clothes taking it off like i don't
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really so if you think you look good natural then what's the reason it's just an enhancer
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like is it enhancing for men is it enhancing for yourself both to look good to other people
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to look good to me wait daya question if you were president and you could sign an executive order
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i thought i wasn't supposed to talk anymore i i as the no no he just said he just said you're
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very verbose i am the definition of verbose being that you often use more words than necessary to
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express the thought brian was simply in his own very chivalric way just saying we still want to hear
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from you but perhaps we can keep it a little bit more concise so concise in fact that i haven't said
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anything for a while and already you're trying to cut in while i'm talking but anyway go ahead
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so it's okay would you sign an executive order banning makeup if you could really no no i wouldn't
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no uh do you think women who wear makeup are insecure
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i i'm next i'm asking answer the question go ahead it's not my position i'm just asking if it's her
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position yeah be honest put it out there two sides just kidding just either you do it for art or you
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don't like how you make the mic's just right here okay i'm i'm gonna corner it i know it's hard just
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two sides either you wear it for art or you wear it to cover or enhance something that you feel is
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naturally lacking so i do think that you know if if you're not wearing makeup you feel more confident
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like i said and so i think that the more makeup you wear the more you're likely to become insecure
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and i think that it's kind of like a double-edged sword there i'm not saying that every woman that
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wears makeup is insecure that's also what's pushed on our society so it really depends and i know i'm
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giving a roundabout answer i just gave a clear one before um but i think you can do it for art
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or you can do it to enhance your looks and either way you know you're doing it for a specific reason
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and i personally don't think that i want to do it so i'm gonna have the the pro makeup uh cartel weigh in
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the the pro makeup delegation mikayla bella whoever else is pro makeup i think you said your pro makeup
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uh well do you think she's full of shit what do you think i mean what do you think mikayla give it
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to us mikayla i mean for me personally like i'm really creative and i like to draw too so for me
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it's like doing my makeup is really soothing when i'm if i feel like doing it before i leave the house
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it's like it calms me my my ex used to say like he was like i've never met a girl that because i would
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literally do my makeup when i'm stressed and take it right off like immediately just because it's fun
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right for me i can understand that yeah so i mean for yeah for me it has nothing to do with
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like confidence i'm totally okay going do you know what's in your makeup like do you know the
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chemicals that are in there i do yeah yeah i look i look up all the ingredients and that's like you're
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educated on the subject i think a lot of women are kind of pushed into that being you know young kids
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you've got kids going to sephora now at 12 yeah and they're buying you know lipstick they're buying
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mascara it's like you're 12 when i was 12 i was playing in dirt and riding on quads like
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you know it's it's very scary to see the younger generation that's growing up with this idea of
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beauty and we're we're pushing it on to them and i i personally as a marketer feel bad about that
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so but if you do it for art that's great like that's therapy i understand that
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bella i honestly don't think it's that serious not that serious it's really not that serious i feel
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like makeup really doesn't have anything to do with anyone's confidence just like you said it's an
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art it is soothing it takes time to learn on top of that um like me personally i'm confident
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with or without makeup i only put on makeup if i have time like it takes time as well so if i had
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some makeup wipes would you take your makeup off right now well you know what later on in the show
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we can do it you down oh i'm fine with that okay perfect we got because i'm totally fine without
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makeup but like you bringing like mental health into it i just i don't agree like at all she think
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i feel like maybe that was like you her position is that if you wear makeup you're mentally exactly
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that's what it feels like bella bella i can't tell if you're wearing makeup you got to make y'all
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are that's good that's a good thing i'm very natural you're ill ill thank you that's what she
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said right i didn't say that no more that's not my position all right that's cool why don't we get
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the men's perspective wait would y'all date going around the table would you guys date a dude who wore
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makeup mikayla would you like he put on a little blush a little mascara
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yeah why not you really okay yeah yeah and he curls his you wouldn't be a little turned off if
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he's like curling his eyelashes i probably i mean i probably might the umbrellas a little but like um
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there's like in the korean culture there's like makeup that's made for men
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and they do like you know is that your preference though for a guy to wear makeup
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i don't really mind you don't mind okay no yeah all right i don't mind you don't mind you don't mind
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bella as long as it's not excessive what if he wears as much as you do yeah i'm not saying you're
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excessive i'm not saying that but what if it's as much as you wear so he's got fake lashes no no but
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he's quality he wants his eyes to pop bella he wants his eyes to pop i feel like that's too
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feminine for me how dare you say that wow okay uh what about you shelby um no but can i say something
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else sure i think what's worse than makeup is like plastic surgery and like all the fillers and stuff
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because then it gives even more of like a fake facade for what the standard should be anybody here
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have any plastic surgery fake titties what do you have you got you have fake boobs yeah okay uh bbl
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anybody she said bbl no bbl lip filler you have boob job lip filler no lip filler anybody wait do you
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hey brian is there anybody on here that you think because since you told me that you are able to
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determine the fake titty vision yeah well and the the fake lip the lip filler the lip filler i'd have
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to see their their side their profile the problem is hang on hang on hang on there's a lot there's
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logical issue here with this question towards brian it is my belief that perhaps brian could not fully
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determine this without himself seeing them which and of course it would be untowards for him to make
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such demands and the fact that you are as a christian you should be ashamed of that brian shameful
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absolutely should not in any way indulge in your sycophantic and disgusting fantasies the lips because
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hey the lips you're asking him you're asking him with zero input and information without the proper
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requisite information that anybody would need as a visual aid to make this assessment you're out of
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bounds my so bad i am so sorry but i was referring to the rebuked you just got rebuked by andrew um nice
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so uh yeah we have uh moving on uh let's see here we have actually wait let me just double check now
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we're all good uh michaela moving to michaela hot take you say you have to know a guy for for like over
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a month be just your words uh be going on dates consistently before you'll even consider kissing
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him a month yeah i mean it's not like it's not like a strict thing but i feel like i don't like i
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typically don't even feel like kissing a guy if i gross like don't know him that is i like to postpone
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the kiss as long as possible even if like i i just want to post we should have sex before even
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kissing that's my position right yeah brian i'm you're so right um but okay you need to be uh going
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on dates consistently so what if like third date he he goes for the kiss do you like dodge it and give
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him like the ass out hug you know no i think if it feels right like that's what i'm saying it's not
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like a super strict thing like if it feels right i'm gonna do it but i just like typically don't
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feel like if have you ever had sex with someone before you've kissed them no okay i feel like i
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had to ask that question um actually i guess kind of related to this um how about bringing a little
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further though when it comes to sex like how long do you i don't i don't even know the best way to
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phrase this like how long do you wait for this is for the whole panel we'll go around the table
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uh before like one date two date three date whatever if it feels right i don't know before
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having sex michaela go ahead yeah probably just if it feels right like whenever i'm comfortable enough
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has it ever felt right 30 minutes after meeting a dude no
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no not for me okay uh bella what about you yeah when it feels right it's like an hour it's typically
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after like maybe like 10 dates bella come on breath 10 dates you're waiting 10 dates 10 dates isn't a
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lot oh if i usually hang out you usually hang out with what like with the other person pretty often
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so it goes by pretty fast but that's a lot of money that's that's a lot of cost per nut on that
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one it's a little degenerate 10 whole dates a hundred dollars a dinner
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no no you should be chased in fact you should wait till marriage some people wait like months
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and like years i think i know genuinely i wait my whole life yeah but some people wait like five
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minutes so it's like i can just say that all right uh how long for you uh i'd say like when it feels
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right on average probably about like at least after the third date okay what about you until i'm in a
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very committed relationship that could potential all right potential to be marriage uh what about
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you um i'd say three dates too if it feels right but try to go for three days all right lucky number
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three okay i think in the past um you know i maybe just a few dates but now i i'm kind of waiting for the
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right guy uh oh okay brian should tell you his okay i'm just gonna i'm just gonna wash i'm just gonna
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walk okay what is no andrew what is it so brian has he has an irrefutable argument um it upsets me
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greatly i argue with him all the time and i end up losing on this argument every single time so here's
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the argument the argument just goes simply like this if you were promiscuous before you
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got to the man that you really liked but you were not going to sleep with that man
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right because you now want to wait wouldn't that man feel gypped
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he might but i think it well at least for me it'll feel the intention is different
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what i agree yeah i know nobody no dispute there that the intention is yeah i could i'm just looking
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let's just look at it from the man's perspective so let's say and this of course this would never
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happen because i'm not really a 10 but that's really funny to say but let's just assume for a
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second that you and i were dating right hypothetically of course and um we sat down and we're having dinner
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and we're having a great time you know and we have a few drinks and we get into it and you're like
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look you know i really like you i do have a bit of a sordid past you know i've uh i've slept with let's
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say 10 guys or 15 guys and some of them even on the first day i've done this even on the first day
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but with you i really like you right and i want to wait so that this is like meaningful
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from my perspective wouldn't i be like what the fuck like you what you fucked all these guys like
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whoa where's my you know what i mean wouldn't would from the guy's perspective how do you think that
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would make them feel yeah i i understand that i could see how a guy could you know kind of be maybe
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upset about it or like feel like gypped um uh that everybody else was able to be like hey
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i on the first night i slept with that guy but that was a mistake but you i really like you so i'm
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going to make you wait doesn't that just sound backwards it it it can but then you know i'd probably
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tell him that because he's so special yes and now we get to the heart of the argument so you thought
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that the first part was the argument but it wasn't it was just a lead up to the argument so here's where
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brian comes in with the kill shot it annoys me to no end oh okay here's the kid here's the kill shot
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brian says well then you're faking virtue because it was not for you virtuous to not sleep with the
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men before me it's only because you really like me and you think my preference is that i want a
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woman who is virtuous and so even though you want to sleep with me you will not because that's my
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preference so you're actually faking virtue well i would probably put it on myself i i'd probably say
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it's sure because i was immature and i think for once in my life i know exactly what i want
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sure but from the guy's perspective right again from let's say brian's perspective he thinks
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but if you're making me wait and you say you're doing it for me it's because you must think that
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i have the preference that i don't want to be with a promiscuous woman and if you're
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promiscuous with all the men before me then you must be faking being virtuous because you think that's
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what i want um i don't know what to say can i add something because i actually like relate to this a
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lot so um with my kid's dad um i had met him but like the first like month or so like we didn't have
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sex or anything so that for me it was because like most guys usually like they just like want to like
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hit it and quit it you know so like the the fact that he also was like understanding of like oh you
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know like we both actually like cared about each other like see something in each other to wait like
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i don't feel like every guy is gonna be like oh well why are you gonna fuck him but not me let me ask
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you a question yeah let's say you fucked him on the first night right how would that have changed
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your relationship dynamic um he probably would have just went on to the next girl and right so
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then so then the virtue here was self-serving you didn't sleep with him because you thought if you
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did he'd move on to the next girl not because you have an objection to sleeping with him that's exactly
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what faking virtue is that's the heart of brian's argument which is why it's so frustrating to me
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because i've been pondering for one straight year this literally plagues me at night i cannot repeat
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this argument it bothers me to no end but what you just demonstrated was the perfect example of faking
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virtue yeah i will not have sex with you because i'm afraid that if i do it'll give you the wrong idea
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about me and then you'll move on to the next girl perfect about the idea right that means then that you
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would sleep with him if you thought he would stay with you so what about because i know like we're
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both like talking on the answer to this question if you knew for sure that he would have stayed with
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you if you had slept with him night one wouldn't you have um probably not because i usually don't just
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hook up with the guy like the first night okay night like like like night three um no because he lived
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like really far so okay like a few times a week if he didn't live really far um maybe but yeah maybe
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so you were faking virtue so what you were doing you were making him wait because you wanted him to
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think you weren't that kind of girl that way he would stick well he met me at a strip club so he
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probably already thought i was that he was probably already expecting to get something out of me look
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every circumstance is different in this case i'll even grant in this circumstance is different but
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even then your entire mindset behind this was i didn't sleep with him immediately because he would
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think something bad about me and move on to the next girl so i made him wait it was not though that
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you objected to him and you wanted him to wait because of virtue it was because you thought it was a
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good way to net him and so then we get into the that's what faking virtue is and um every single
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time this is played out it always plays out the same way and it pisses me off and i want to like
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choke brian all the time i want to literally strangle him because i don't know how to refute that argument
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because you are faking virtue you're not doing it for him you're doing it for you right to keep him
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well i kind of did it more for me because i just i i i wanted it to go further you know so
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like i didn't want to just give it to him and you know who knows where it would have went i i wanted to
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like wait and see where i actually go and then like if it doesn't if i see it's not going to go anywhere
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i'm either not going to do it we're not going to have sex or we could just do it and move on like
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if that's i agree i totally i totally understand exactly what you're saying you're not doing it though
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because you think in your head it's virtuous to stay pure it's virtuous to be chased you're doing
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it because you think it'll well i didn't think that because i'm a stripper so i'm like you probably
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already think something like a whore so yeah right you're doing it because you think it'll keep the
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guy that's what faking virtue is it's like i'm not easy i'm not like this but you were like this with
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10 other guys or five other guys or two other guys or whatever but i'm not going to be like this with
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you you know what i mean i'm actually virtuous to keep him interested that is what faking virtue is
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and so uh this argument i've i've had trouble refuting when brian says well shouldn't i feel
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chipped because they're just faking virtue how the fuck is he wrong okay i have a thought on that so okay
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um and i'll weigh in too i think generally if you sleep with anyone male or female i think there's some
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kind of emotional connection and if you sleep with them early on you don't maybe you don't get a
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chance to actually get to know them to decide whether you do like them or not so that's that's my reason
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uh okay i mean but you've already you made that decision later in your life because earlier in your
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life you were more at least in this situation the woman was more she threw it out more often so she
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came to this conclusion later the guy would say oh well that's that's funny that you come to that
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conclusion later but with all those other guys in your past you weren't so chased you know yeah well
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and i think that's why i've i've always not always but i've been in so many relationships that
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lasted so long um and it's probably because i no i i didn't wait that long and i think if i would
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have waited i probably wouldn't have ended up being with some of these guys so i it's like a hard lesson
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that i learned perhaps i do want to come back to it but really quick because we were going around the
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table on this how long do you think you should wait before hooking up um quick answers yes at least a
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month i don't believe in hooking up okay tilt your mic down a little bit go ahead what about you
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if this is about dating um there is no time you will know uh don't think about it live your life
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and breathe and love yeah so right away is that um it would never be right away like same night i'm
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very have you ever like met a guy and then like within 24 hours 48 hours no 72 hours no a fortnight you
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know one time there was that one guy okay right role play scenario but i guess my confusion with
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this whole thing is and andrew has most of it down when it comes to the faking virtue thing but there
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does seem to be this uh there's another component here where it's kind of like there's game playing
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and then this sort of like what's going on here kind of unfair treatment like i'm sure a lot of you
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guys just to i'll give you a scenario where perhaps you can comprehend because this is a frustration
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that men experience that i don't think women can really understand or put themselves in men's shoes
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on this so let me here's the example imagine a guy who he introduced his friends and family
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to you spent quality long romantic dates with you revealed his emotional side
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with you but he just wanted to smash but with girls he saw long-term potential in he booty called
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them at night left straight away because he didn't want to get hurt
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like so he's what what i'm getting at with that example is he's essentially rewarding the woman
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get to meet the family friends spend these long romantic dates he's putting in all this effort
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with the woman he's just trying to smash and have sex with but the girl he sees long-term potential in
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she gets the worst treatment and so it's interesting to me like okay you really like the guy this guy's so
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great but you're that's the guy oh he's got to wait a month two months three five ten dates but the guy
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who's a jerk asshole fuck boy who you have had short-term encounters with he gets to hit right away
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so the jerk the guy who was a jerk the guy who is an asshole to you he hit right away and i'm i'm the
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good guy i'm the guy you actually want a long-term relationship with and you want you want to wait oh
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okay you're not attracted to me or what what's the situation then but that's like that's exactly
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the problem and that's what's contributing to what culture what what do you mean what's the problem
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like you guys automatically assuming that just because a woman's not sleeping with you on the
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first date that she's not attracted to you but i would just say that's not what i'm saying i'm saying
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that like that could be a thought process for a lot of guys right which is why women are sleeping
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with men on the first date now because if not then the man would just leave so i think i think the
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the jerk that you're talking about like the ideal man like the f-boy like he gets it on the first
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night because the woman thinks that that will keep him keep him around like to be honest but they
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clearly don't think that because with the guy that they want to keep around they decide to hold
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off on it aren't we supposed to bow down and obey mine i think that's after learning their lesson
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with that in a bit but like here but that's just the game you can't hate you can't hate the player
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just that's just the game no but you understand how like from the guy's perspective it's really
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confusing like that's why he doesn't find out look at it logically but if you look at it logically
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right like isn't the guy who you who you like are viewing like oh this guy could be like long-term
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relationship potential he waits he has to wait for sex but the guy who's maybe going to treat you
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poorly who's a jerk asshole fuck boy he hits right away maybe like that's what's confusing because he
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doesn't want him to stay around his long-term relationship success so so so hang on so let me
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just ask you from the from the from the guy's perspective say let's say you and i are sitting down
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for dinner say look i only fuck the guys i don't like yeah it's weird what should my play what should
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my play be what should my play be then should it be like oh that yes i really want you to like me
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or should it be i really want you to not like me wait what should my play be andrew that's actually a
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really good i i think we've talked about this before but that's actually a really good point
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so your position is if a guy wants to get sex he has to be the bad dude no he has so you guys are
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incentivizing it men will do what works men okay he has to be attractive no men will do what works
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so like oh you reward the guys who treat you like shit and you fuck him right away is it any surprise
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that if you guys are like giving yourself sexually to these awful men that you're reinforcing their
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behavior well men don't treat you like shit before they have sex with you really no okay like i don't
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think most like have you guys ever gotten treated like shit by a guy but you only wait wait wait
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though just because you always sleep but but you sleep with men that you don't like and you won't
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sleep with men that you do like so if i'm a man who wants to sleep with you what should i be what
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should my goal here be to make you what like me or not like me well i don't think is that what you
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said like he's we're our response is going off of what you said you said well they sleep with they
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sleep with the men that they don't like didn't you say i don't want for a long-term relationship maybe
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he is maybe he's highly desirable like maybe he's highly attractive or he has a lot of money he has a
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lot of women chasing after him so you already know he's not really looking to commit to anyone
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but he's attractive like i think when women you're settling no sometimes like he's just hot
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and you just you just well you're not settling i think when women how are you not settling i think
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when women sleep around they usually go for men who are of like a higher status and like more
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attractive more money whatever because they know that those men are just not going to stick around
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because they have more options let me so let me get this right i here's your position women are
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having sex with men who are high status who they don't actually like who they know they can't
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actually get no they have to like you though they really like you so they're not going to sleep with
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you right which literally means you're not high status and we're settling no they have to like them
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it's just that they don't see a long-term relationship with them yeah okay they don't know that he's not
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looking for that so so then my goal should be for you to not see a long-term relationship with me then
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if you're just i want to have sex for casual sex as a man sure yeah okay so then the best way
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to have sex with a woman is that she doesn't like you and you tell her that you don't want a long
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no she has to like you have to be attractive you have to be desirable to her yeah sure you're
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attracted but you have to be like but if she tells you she doesn't want to sleep with you because
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she really likes you that that must mean you're not attractive and desirable no she's just not
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exceptional oh you're just not exceptional oh okay he was exceptional i'm not exceptional you're
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settling right i think women do settle when it comes okay right so you're settling that's it so brian
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once again brian's argument king no refutations whatsoever it's just the entailment that you are
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settling and faking virtue for men you claim you like who you won't sleep with and this is a problem
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from the christian ethic i really want to destroy this guy on this i want to completely melt brian's
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mind on this but apparently he's right because what you what the entailment is always is we're settling
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for you right um but if you were exceptional we'd fuck you so so is that better to have one night
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with somebody versus you could be married to them and then if your goal is sex with somebody being
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married to them means that you have a long-lasting relationship i'll answer your question i'll answer
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your question so in this scenario the guy you're saying it's better to be married to this woman
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no yeah we don't want to marry we don't want to marry that woman that's not what i'm saying i'm
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saying that you know if if you're saying is this based purely off of can how quickly i can have sex
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with a woman is that is that the basis of the conversation on no no no let me explain okay it's
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based on this if you have had sex with men before very quickly but you will not have sex with the guy
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you're with and tell him it's because you really like him and wanted to go somewhere right the idea
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from the gal i was just speaking to i'm very sorry i wasn't here right for the beginning of
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the show so i didn't catch your name she said and i quote well women do settle you're obviously not
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exceptional that's exactly how the guy would feel he would say why do these other men get to have sex
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with you who you say you didn't like but i don't get to have sex with you when you claim i like you
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that makes no fucking sense that that's fair i can't comment on that yeah so i guess here's the
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confusion that i have i just have a question for the panelists so who do you think like which man is
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i guess more deserving what you say is more deserving of sex the guy who you see a long-term potential
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with or i guess the guy who you don't see long-term potential with long-term long-term guy
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okay but so here's the confusing part you you say he's more deserving of it but you're you're
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saying here that you're withholding sex from the men who arguably deserve the most and they put in the
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most effort uh but you're giving it away freely to the guys who are kind of like maybe they're
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really attractive but they're fuck boys whatever maybe they you know they put in minimal or no
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effort and a lot of men see this you know maybe they never had to pay for a date never had to be
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chivalrous etc etc i think we were maybe were we talking about chivalry earlier today i don't yeah
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uh so what do men see they see why should i do all the chivalrous stuff that women claims that
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they claim they want uh all the chivalrous stuff that women demand needs to be in place before having
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sex but then you know that she freely has given herself to men who did not do those things so like
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i'm i don't know the sexual history of the panelists here but like it's maybe fair to say
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that some of you have had um this isn't a judgment but you've maybe like had a one night stand or hooked
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up with a guy relatively quickly who didn't pay for dates didn't get you flowers or reacted to flowers
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before didn't do all that chivalrous stuff and it's like men see that men see this you guys are giving
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sex to the men that aren't chivalrous that are just like text you at 11 p.m on a Friday
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night what you doing terrible grammar by the way they have terrible grammar too not the the men
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what you doing they can they they text at a fifth grade level or some shit um
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and then it's like oh now you're 30 now you want after you gave yourself to all these other men who
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didn't have to put in any effort now you want me to put in all this effort that's crazy you're
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commenting on what's the problem with hookup culture in our society like that is the issue
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is that by having hookup culture we are perpetuating a society where it's okay to treat women poorly
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because as long as you're attractive as long as you have high status that's women treating men poorly
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not men treating women it's it's it's both it takes two to have a hookup culture no no in this case you
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know it's just women treating men poorly what they're doing is gaslighting men they're saying
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listen i really like you and so i'm not gonna sleep with you i just left with the three guys
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before you though because i didn't like them that is the stupidest shit that i've ever heard in my life
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and there are men who fall for that but this is not a cause of men how are men causing that i'm not
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how exactly are men marionetting women in order to gaslight them with this shit like they're not i'm not
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saying that i'm saying that hookup culture as a whole is negative for society it seems like it's
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perpetuated by women and not men and women are the gatekeepers of sex not men you want equality if
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you the second you say that there's equality egalitarianism between men and women women can
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make those decisions and women are making the decision to be promiscuous and have lots of sex
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they're the gatekeepers of sex they're the determiners of who gets sex and who doesn't
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yeah how do you not place this squarely at the feet of women i i mean i i do that's why you know in the
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bible it says you said it was men treating women you know i'm saying i'm saying that no no hold up
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i'm saying that by perpetuating hookup culture we are perpetuating the idea that it's okay to
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treat women who's we women we women by hooking up with men are perpetuating the idea that it's okay
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to treat women poorly we're perpetuating the idea that sex is meaningless that it should that a sin
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has now become normalized that should not perpetuating that men treat women poorly that's not what i was
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perpetuating that we're not arguing treat men poorly i'm saying that sex should not be outside
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of marriage that's what i'm saying i'm saying yeah i know i get it i agree with you sex shouldn't
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be outside of marriage but what you're actually advocating for here is the opposite of what you
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think you're not saying that you're that men are treating women poorly you're saying that women are
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treating men poorly you're saying that women are gaslighting men they're saying to them i slept with
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three guys before you and they meant nothing to me but you baby i love you so you get to wait
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that's nothing more than complete gaslighting and virtue signaling what else could that be
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and would that not then incentivize the man to treat you like shit so that you would sleep with
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him if his if his goal is sex then yeah that that would incentivize that's what i'm saying is hookup
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we're not disagreeing we're agreeing but what if his goal wasn't sex it was a long-term relationship
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how would that make it better like even if my goal was to be like i want to have a long-term
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relationship with you right um why is it that you not sleeping with me would be better than you
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sleeping with me if you slept with the three guys previous to me who he didn't even like okay that's
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that's fair i can't i can't talk on that subject i got i got a few more i got a few more uh things on
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this i got a couple other examples here imagine a guy saying i invested enormous amounts of time
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effort and money into getting sex from uh random women in my 20s but now i'm lazy so i won't make
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any effort for uh for you who i say that you're my girlfriend or who i say you're uh you're either
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girlfriend or wife material and i want marriage with you and you have to wait three months or until
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marriage to get all that time effort and money i think that would be him growing as a person and
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being smart but but y'all that's maybe that's the case but i feel like a lot of women would be like
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okay here here's a better one you're dating a guy you guys been together for a year but he's kind of
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like he doesn't really take you out on dates doesn't really take you on dates doesn't do anything
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romantic never took you on a trip um doesn't want to meet doesn't want to introduce you to his
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parents doesn't want to meet your parents but he's like i love you babe i care about you so much
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you're the one you find out that his last three girlfriends he did all that shit for within three
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months and you've been dating him for a year you don't feel you don't start to question wait what
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why did he do all that stuff for his exes but not for me maybe you wouldn't feel the type of way
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huh maybe because his exes played him he felt but then but wouldn't you then think oh so i got to
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deal with your trauma and your bullshit from the i'm a new person right why do i have to what why did
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you throw the dice and land on me and now i got to deal with your bullshit and we can't have like an
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emotionally healthy relationship it's a common pattern in men that if you give them sex too early
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they will leave actually i agree i totally agree with her brian um i i do here like let's do it this
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way maybe this is a better way to do this i was thinking about this earlier d do all of you on the
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panel agree that people work through incentives right penalties and then incentives so if i penalize
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behavior you're less likely to do it if i incentivize behavior you're more likely to do it
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like if i say i'm going to give you a hundred dollars extra if you do this job you're more
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likely to do the job right but if i say if you do this thing i don't like i'm going to dock your pay
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you're going to be less likely to do that thing right does everybody agree with that show of hands
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if you agree that that's true just raise your hands okay great then if we're talking about penalties
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and incentives then isn't it true that if you sleep with men you don't like you're incentivizing
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men you don't like to sleep with you show of hands if that's true
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okay then if that's the case then if you refuse to sleep with men that you do like
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then wouldn't that create a disincentive for the men you do like to be with you
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yes right so it's a matter of incentives so literally what you're saying is we incentivize
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men to treat us poorly we're incentivizing men to treat us like fuck dolls and leave us
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because we give the incentives to the bad ones to fuck us and we give the incentives to the good
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ones that we're not going to fuck them it's just it's it's like it's like candy right if i if i
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were if i were training a dog i would train the dog when it did a good thing i would give it a treat
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and when it did a bad thing i would chastise it right isn't that how you train a dog yeah so if every
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single time you slept with a bad guy that's a treat right then how are you not incentivizing that
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behavior right but anybody give me an explanation for that like any of you can any of you give me
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an explanation for that i agree with you yeah i agree with you and i think hookup culture is very
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toxic but i think men perpetuate hookup culture the most okay well we can get into that in just a
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big go ahead michaela right um i mean i feel like it's a catch-22 because the like men men
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not typically staying with women who do sleep with them immediately is incentivizing us to
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not sleep with them immediately so it's just like why are you sleeping with them immediately i'm i mean
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i'm not but i'm just saying like why are women doing this then that makes no sense like this
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argument you're that you're making right now reinforces my own yes i agree if it is the case
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that men are more likely to move on after you have sex with them immediately then why the
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are women immediately having sex with men that's why can any of you can somebody explain this to me
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because there's people that are only meant in that way and then there's because you really love and
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you want to prove yourself right you wouldn't do that on the first day you care about what they
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are just retarded you don't care i think a lot of women there's people you don't care about but they
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serve uh energy or a day and time whatever yeah i mean it just sounds it's the most counterintuitive
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thing i've ever heard like you know what you know like imagine cindy and shirley are having a
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conversation and cindy's like you know what you know what men they only want one thing and that's to
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have sex and shirley's like yeah so we should have sex with them it's like this is stupidest
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fucking shit i've ever heard in my life why would you incentivize that behavior if you think that
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that behavior is bad it's like i just don't even i don't even understand it i i have a few more things
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here than i do want to move move on just because we have quite a bit more to get to but i one analogy
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i've i've said it before on the show so it's like making a man wait while her you know woman's past
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10 20 whatever previous partners she slept with on the first or second date is like
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me going to mcdonald's and everyone in the restaurant paid one dollar for a cheeseburger
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and then there's three people in line ahead of me they all pay one dollar for a cheeseburger
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then i finally minutes later i get to the front of the line ask for a cheeseburger and the clerk looks
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at me and says it's a thousand dollars for you sir because i like you more than those other
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customers those other other customers were just a mistake it will be a thousand dollars for you
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i you know you know what i mean okay all right it's a good i don't think they get it i don't know if
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they get it oh what i see is um you want to do good for your man uh so part of that is sex so that
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has nothing to do with it the reason why they're leaving these people afterwards and now you have
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another partner is because they have um obedience um they have boundaries and they know what's good
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for their whole life so in that time they saw something that wasn't right and turned away and
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that's strength and i guess uh yeah i guess final thing on this and it's at least from i i i understand
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though as a woman it's a difficult position because on one hand it's like
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it's like well am i gonna lose the guy if i don't but then you also like if i do then is he gonna
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judge me or like not want to pursue a long-term relationship honestly though i think if the guy
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is really interested in you like if if he's going in wanting a long-term relationship and you have sex
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with him it's hard for me to see a scenario where he's like oh we just had amazing sex and i i
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previously wanted to have a long-term relationship with her i'm no longer interested in her because
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of this no there but then yes there are the men who are just interested in sex that you have to be
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wary of uh i i get that my position though at least what i'm looking for in a woman is i'm not
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interested in a one-night stand like if i sleep with a girl i want there to be a continuity i'm pursuing
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like i want to pursue a relationship with a girl if i have sex with a girl like you have to
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up really bad in some way after the sex for me to be like i'd never want to see you again
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like if i sleep with the girl there's intention there i want there to be continuity i want to
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keep seeing her and so at least maybe not all guys move that well i know there's guys who don't
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move that way there's guys who are just trying to have sex with you once goodbye nice meeting you
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wham bam thank you ma'am uh i think that's weird though for a couple different reasons but it's like
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for from my perspective where i am interested in having a long-term relationship with a woman
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i i will feel the type of way if i'm like you know you know because i think it's normal to kind
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of talk about like oh well what's your relationship history and if you like sussed out like okay maybe
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she's had a couple hookups here and there and it's like oh you want to wait three months
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and i mean it's like though we we're adults both already done this i mean the woman's free to do
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that but then i just kind of feel like she's just not she's playing a game i don't think she's
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even that into me and um that's just my position it's kind of like there was this viral thing on
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twitter a while ago where a uh a woman a guy broke up with his his girlfriend i think she she said
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i would never hook up with you but your marriage material and like y'all women think that's a
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compliment that is trust me don't ever say that to a guy oh you're not the guy i would hook up with
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you're the guy i would date or trust me don't say that to a dude because it's it's not good like it's
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not good like we want to be the guy that you're you would hook up with but you also want a long-term
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relationship um so and also like you can start as like a bit more casual go into something more
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serious but yeah what's your thing don't men say the same thing like oh i'd smash her but i wouldn't
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date her or i wouldn't marry her oh sure yeah sure sure right dude so what does that have to do with
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anything though yeah like you guys also pick and choose who you want to have sex with and oh no men
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don't choose who they who they have sex with women choose yeah sure but yeah men have sex with who they
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can women have sex with who they want i would love to hear this from a christian male perspective like the
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whole i would love to hear that do you think that because you're a christian and a man that somehow
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that alleviates you from the same burdens of every other man on planet earth it doesn't no no women
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are still the gatekeepers of sex and they're still the ultimate architects of what that will be and who
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they'll have it with i just think that most men that i know that are christian that's not like the
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primary focus in their life is to have sex with a woman like they have the the reason for christianity i
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mean to follow the principles in the day-to-day life right is to you're trying not to sin here
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let me just make it really simple um you're waiting until marriage right correct yeah i mean this is a
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secular con convert like the this specific topic is probably more secular because i'm assuming like
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at least for him or certain christian men they're waiting until marriage so i don't think this
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conversation really pertains to like a christian actually it does it does well it pertains it might
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pertain to it and well would it pertain to it in the sense of the christian man who's waiting for
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marriage wouldn't want to there's no distinct there's no distinction here with it it's it's kind
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of funny because it's still christian women still yeah yeah the choosers i i have also been in a
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situation with a previous ex-girlfriend where like she she was not a virgin and oh she once said something
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she said i said i would have been able to get you to sleep with me right i'm like if we weren't
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christians and we weren't waiting till marriage and she said no i was at the point in my life at that
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point where i wouldn't have given it to you and i was like i feel pretty jibbed by that i feel
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jibbed in my life where i would have right that's exactly right yep so so the thing is is like christian
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men they also have to deal with an entirely other aspect of this which is the virtue of the woman
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who says i'm now a reformed christian though i was promiscuous in my past 100 and now you should
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accept me because i was promiscuous in my past but christian men still have the option of saying no i
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still have a preference against your former promiscuity the woman though is still the chooser
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so the thing is it's like no matter what whether you're a secularist or you're a christian or a
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muslim or whatever maybe not muslims it depends on the region right but if you're a christian in the
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west or a secularist the woman's still going to be the chooser the decider on the access and
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gatekeeping to sex even if they're waiting to marriage you're just elongating the process right
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but it's still the same thing so if you were to tell me let's say i was on like christianmingle.com
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or something and and you go we go on a date and i sit down with you and you're like look
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i am a shaved woman right i'm a born again virgin though your hymen doesn't grow back you are a born
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again virgin uh whatever that means and you're going to go on the straight and narrow and i'm like wow
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that's that you know great you know i'm glad you're a woman of virtue now that's fantastic i wouldn't
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hold your past against you of course you came to christ that's fantastic but then he said something
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to me like yeah you know it's really the guys who i like that i i wouldn't sleep with it's the
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guys i didn't who i would sleep with we're still in the same exact position we've just added jesus
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christ to the mix right it's still the same thing all right there's no avoiding the question uh moving
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on michaela you said dating is extremely difficult right now because people are so closed off and
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either their standards are too high or they don't want a relationship when you say uh their standards are
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too high do you think this is for for men for women for both um i think for both both who do you
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think it's like worse for like who has higher standards men or women um right now like um
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um i don't know it's probably equal equal yeah you think social media is what's contributing to that
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uh yeah i think it's a big part of it yeah i think women are big here and have higher standards have
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higher standards yeah like here how about this maybe let's just maybe look at it from looks really quick
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um what percentage of men do you think are attractive um
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i don't know probably like have you been on a dating app before yeah yeah like how many percent
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like what percentage of the men do you swipe yes for um on a dating app probably like
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10 percent 10 percent what about you for realistic one percent one percent one percent of men are
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attractive what about you maybe like 20 percent of men okay five five percent okay 15 15 okay five all right
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uh yeah i think like five to ten percent in general are you asking in general are you asking on a
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dating app have you been on a dating app not well it'd be hard for you to answer the question then so
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answer it in the way that you can answer it okay um maybe ten percent okay it's super rare seriously so
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like i'm gonna find somebody breedable breedable okay all right pump the brakes there uh breedable
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okay um you know i'm picky damien i'm gonna send you a uh infographic here really quick that pertains
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to this uh what percentage of women do you think are attractive it's is it low for you it's it's low
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brian knows i'm picky he's trying to set me up he's trying to set me up first off
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set you up with a crit i i was in contact with a christian virgin who reached out to me on the show
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i you're a virgin she's a virgin uh but you didn't like her okay but i do have oh man i hate using this
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word but i have a type and i have a little bit of a like roster so i mean you gotta like perform a
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little bit better you know what i'm saying oh i like there are there are a lot of girls reaching out
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right pull it up pull it up damien uh so i mean this is so this is uh and and they've replicated
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this sort of study and they found this like occurring in other dating apps so uh at the top
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how men rate women uh and then the bottom is how women rate men uh this is on the dating app and so
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women are like when it comes to i think pretty sure this pertains to looks here uh men rate women pretty
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fairly on the bell curve but like women are really harsh judges of men uh in terms of their attractiveness
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uh they find something like uh those first three bars 27 31 so that's like uh 60 that that's uh like
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80 percent so they find i would say they find 80 percent of men like below uh below average looking
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which kind of pans out with some of your answers here uh 12 average five percent i guess that that
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would be uh like above average two percent would be like attractive zero well zero percent most wow
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that's rough uh it's hard out there but uh i mean just on this basis basis alone it seems like women
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are really picky when it comes to physical appearance i think i happen to think for both men and women you
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can make arguments that maybe men are a little like a little more preoccupied with physical appearance
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but i think women are like it sort of levels out when you factor in like well maybe men care more
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about it but also women find very few men physically attractive so i don't know uh so that's one thing
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and also i do think when it comes to the looks thing so uh i think when it comes to the the things
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that women care about when it comes to looks a lot of that stuff's out of a guy's control height hair
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penis size guy can't control that you know i think most people don't take care of their physical
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appearance yeah i mean a lot of girls like bald guys there's plenty of attractive bald men sure but
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most women prefer men with a full head of hair no i think it depends on the man because a lot of men
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will look good bald am i wrong to state that most women prefer men with a full head of hair i think you
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are but listen listen are there attractive men who are bald absolutely are there women who are
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attracted to bald men absolutely but i'm speaking more generalities here i do think it's fair to say
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in the same way that i think women are attracted to tall men like and typically the taller the better
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although like once you get into like you know six eight maybe women have like a preference for like
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six foot six one six two six three uh i think generally speaking women prefer men with a full head of hair
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i don't think you don't think so i don't think okay what percentage of women prefer bald men 51 i think
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women make fun of bald men but like in all actuality like we would date a bald guy y'all
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would date a bald guy yes i think you like bald guys wait wait what i think that's i just want to make
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sure i'm clear i gotta get clarity here it is your official position that women would have no preference
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when it comes to a man being bald or having a head of hair i just want to be i've never heard a girl
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state that she cares about a specific hairstyle on a guy great let's run a social experiment real quick
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all the girls at the table i'm going to assume all of you are maximum honest right at this moment
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do you prefer if you prefer men with hair raise your hand not saying it's a deal breaker just say you
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prefer it you could still date a bald guy now hang on look around real quick you said you've never
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heard of a woman even one time saying this now how many women do you count that's the entire panel
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just just pointing that out i feel like as we get older i think like with our age okay i think with
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our age like yeah like we're dating someone around our age they have to have hair because if you don't
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have hair that's just odd but i feel like as you get older now she's now she's i feel like if you're
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if you're an older woman you're dating older men you wouldn't be like a guy being bald like what
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like that's a that's a problem okay so hold on i'll explore that super quick so yeah i mean as a
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woman ages like the the men in her age cohort and women are typically gonna like date a guy
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like women aren't you know 35 year old woman's typically not like trying to date a 20 year old
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right so she's gonna be dating a guy like her age or like maybe within five ten years whatever
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it's more common it's more likely that maybe he's starting to bald or maybe he's got a shaved head
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but like if you were to ask her she might be more like she has to take an assessment uh okay well i
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might have to like be a little more forgiving of this uh she would probably still prefer not to say she
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would never date a guy who's bald she'd probably still prefer a guy with a big thick full head of
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hair okay even at 40 even at 50 there are still men at that age who do have full head of hair
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and then there's also women who are 20 and there's men who are 20 who are balding there's guys who start
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balding in high school right so it's like i don't know all right i gotta move it on though oh quick
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i always congratulate the elder woman when they have a man with hair still because they never knew it's like
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like having a lottery ticket back then okay cool very cool very cool all right let's see here uh
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we're getting into the rest of the notes trying to move through this quick uh anissa is it yeah
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did i say it's not anissa anissa no it's anissa uh your anti-hookup culture give us your thoughts
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um i just don't like it i mean like i used to fall into hookup culture and um for me it had effects on
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like my confidence and just what i thought of myself that's just a personal take
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like i don't talk down on anyone else that hooks up like my friends and they got like girl go get
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that but just for me personally no or maybe just i've had my experience with that and it's just you
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realize it's not something that you want or it's not something that you're into like at the beginning
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it feels good then once you're done it's kind of you feel a little less than or me personally i feel
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a little less than sure all right that's fair bella getting into your notes you said your ex's
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mom worked as a hospital receptionist and uh she didn't like you and uh went through your medical
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records and reported everything back to your ex so what were in your medical records
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and how much psychiatric treatment have you had quite a lot oh really have you been 51 50 i have not
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but it was just like medication on there oh what was that for bipolar no it was for uh anxiety
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depression huh ptsd oh ptsd but um not trying to make it awkward did you uh did you go to war
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no do you fuck with the war no oh okay just okay we don't have to get into the you know we won't get
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into the causes i thought maybe it was like you saw some shit in like iraq or something um okay uh
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so she reported it and then did you that seems like that's probably like a hipaa violation it is
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definitely and then also like totally invasive and so did you uh did you break up with him or um
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so it's a long story but basically she kind of covered it up the way that it happened was that
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um because of the fact that she worked at kaiser she wanted to
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kind of schedule me an appointment for my eyes to get it checked and then she got my card because
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she was like oh like let me schedule it for you so she grabbed it and then read all of it
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and said it was an accident that it just popped up um i mean i believed her i i don't know what it
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looks like when if you scan it but i would assume that it you have to go look for it but
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yeah yikes okay uh you also have a story first date story the guy couldn't get hard so he wore a vr
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headset and made you you choose which adult content he would watch while he thrusted you
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while being soft with the headset on while being coked out
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did you date him for like three years or was that was that the six-month guy was that the six-month
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guy no okay so this was obviously my opinions have changed on the hookup culture but this is back when
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like i wasn't really educated on what hookup culture actually was um i had like i think like
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five dates with the guy and then we finally like got to it but i don't know how to explain that he
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basically what what kind of vr was it like the like the oculus vr headset and so he was like i can't
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get hard so like just give me a second and then he put it on oh he put it on he put it on and then
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you picked yeah he searched up for him and then he like i feel like that's got to be a little
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offensive to the woman like right with the ladies wouldn't you be okay you're hooking up with a guy
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he can't get hard and he's like uh i have to wear a vr headset while having sex with you yeah
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and you allowed him to do that yeah i would have he was my ride home and he's also cooked out so i can't
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like i can't just leave so that's why you don't let them take you anywhere you gotta make sure you got your
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own that's a great you should you should have married that guy no literally like that's how
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you tell your kids like oh yeah like the first time we we we had sex in fact he impregnated me
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with a vr headset oh my goodness that's so romantic imagine telling like your future kids
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he couldn't get hard so it's like he's literally thirsty in the air okay but you never saw him again
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after that right no you said something you wrote something here about getting leaked what is that like
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something something leaked um like pictures or whatever is that what you're talking about yeah
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so basically i had really shitty exes just but um he had to take in a recording of me and then also
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pictures while we were sleeping together and then he got the mail and then sent it to my address
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under my parents name okay oh my goodness i is that a i think that's a crime maybe i don't know um
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you got uh threatened to get married at 16 someone threatened yeah he threatened he was basically like
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it's like he had a knife and he's like marry me like what he was basically like if you don't marry
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me you don't love me you don't care about me and i was like 16 so i was like damn this guy
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don't keep thinking about it like okay uh you also got blackmailed same guy
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yeah yeah same person okay nice wow wow uh you also wow you uh here's another one you dated a guy
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who was homeless and you paid for his rent while while he or you were making 150 a week yeah and
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this was when you were at 16 yeah so at 16 wait were you living with your parents yeah they wait hold
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on both are are your parents still together yeah live together live together you were at your
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parents house did you ask them that you're wait he you let a homeless man move into your parents
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house long story short um i don't know if you would consider this like actual dating or not but i met
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him online and then after basically but after i've been talking to him for a while wait hold on you
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met him online yeah after how old was he 19 is that is this in california is that is that no is that
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a yikes where's this so when we had a meetup at what what state were you on tinder no the date was
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it a dating app no it was literally through like online like uh through what like it was through gaming
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oh gaming okay what game siege siege rainbow six each yeah yeah of course i know what that is
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oh oh no no i know what it is okay go ahead go ahead um okay so he's homeless trying you moved
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him into your parents house what's the story um okay let me backtrack so we hadn't talked or we had
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talked for like a long time and then his parents had kicked him out he flew down here and then i basically
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got an airbnb for him to live in oh okay so he didn't move in with your parents no he was living
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in an airbnb how long did that last like two three months but then i like could not did your parents
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know um they knew i was like getting housing housing an adult while you were oh my this just sounds
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that's incredible doesn't your dad know or wait i don't never mind never did you say you were taking
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a break from dating you said you were taking a break okay i understand why this is psychopaths
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getting things okay all right that's cool um housing damn good times um i actually know homeless guy like
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are you down to take him in sure i'm kidding i'm kidding her eyes lit up no more uh you said you disagree i
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don't i mean i don't know you said you we asked if you disagree with anything on the show host you
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said not too sure but you disagree on extreme uh beliefs on control i.e women are property well i
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don't that's not my position i don't think that's andrew's position either but uh i don't know i could
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have wrote that at like three in the morning no that's fine okay we don't have to get into that then
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uh but this would be a good segue though maybe you know i don't know if this is controlling it's
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more so what i i'd like in a woman can we pull up the clip of my ex-girlfriend please pull up the
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bow video and then we're going to do an instagram react after it so this is my ex-girlfriend i had
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to dump her up start from the beginning oh my god all right go ahead boom huge bow so this is my
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expectation i want my girlfriend to bow to me at least once a day um preferably more but you know
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once a day satisfactory uh you know getting my laundry ready i just was coming home from a long
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day shooting the podcast and very attentive which is good very attentive scampering to the refrigerator
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cracking open the beer or the whatever that was um and uh i had to scold her for those tomatoes if you
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look in the bottom right corner she just had tomatoes that were that's gross uh play one more time
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and then boom huge bow okay so this is uh i do want my girlfriend to do a a respectful bow
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i expect you can't do like the that it has to be at least i think 40 45 degrees minimum is respect
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i prefer deep bow though so that's like a 90 degree bow okay yeah so um
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yes do you have a problem with it anybody have any panelists have a problem with my
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i do yeah oh speak up speak up come on anybody is crazy i mean like oh yeah i'll prepare food for my
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men you know that have food for you when you come home from a long day of work but bowing
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bowing for you yeah is insane by the way i just want to make this clear i expect this of all races
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i know she was an asian woman but don't any of you here be racist i date white women the widest
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women they can be very pale they still have to bow in fact i'll date a latina bow black woman bow native
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american bow pacific islander bow uh middle eastern bow
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are there any other i don't know um so wait you anybody else object i'd like to hear some objections
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i think the man should bow to the woman okay we'll get to your
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don't worry we'll get back we're gonna get back oh the what i think the christian woman needs to
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weigh in on the the bow thing though what do you object to the bow um yeah i i would prefer not to
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bow to my partner but what if he what if he uh you were married to him and he he asked you to do it
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is it a joke because that would be funny he he's not like gonna murder you over it but he he does
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want it politely but also do that shit but also polite respectfully no you you would say that
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respectfully no but hold on isn't what andrew bible verse i know submit to your husband i already know
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what's the uh what's the bible verse you're talking about the the obey so it says yes wives are
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supposed to submit right and but at the same time you you know wives are supposed to submit to your
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husband but also men are supposed to it's it's like jesus is to the church right so women you know
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you're supposed to submit to your husband as what christ you know you submit to christ like the church
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is under christ in that way but also men are supposed to have this sacrificial love for you
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so do you have a sacrificial love for your girlfriend you get the sacrificial love if you
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submit see see this is something that's like highly debated among the christian community no it's not
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highly debated there you didn't let me finish my okay you didn't let me it's not highly debated but
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go ahead okay what i was gonna say is is this idea that you need a sacrificial love and you need to
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submit to your husband it's kind of like a idealistic relationship that is very hard to obtain so i
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mean do you have that with your wife let me help you with something okay i'm gonna i'm gonna help
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you out with your theology i'm gonna i'm gonna demonstrate for you why it's incorrect okay do you
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receive divine revelation through the holy spirit which assists you with exegeting meaning interpreting the
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text of the bible sorry was that a question let me repeat the question yes sorry when you
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read the bible yes are you filled with the holy spirit and the holy spirit is telling you
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that what you're reading is true yes and so your interpretation of that text is true
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well i mean god says to lean not on your own understanding so i'm not supposed to interpret
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whose understanding are you leaning on right now i'm i'm leaning on my own this is something
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okay so then so then wait that's really confusing wait wait wait wait lean not on your own understanding
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but you're leaning i agree with you i agree with you this is a point in christianity that i i have
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struggled with and i haven't yet then just help me out with this okay if it is the case that the
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holy spirit is in you and that is what is assisting you in reading the bible so you know it is true
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is that how people interpret the bible that specific line or are you talking about no is that how people
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interpret the holy spirit yes yes that's okay and the holy spirit is telling you what is true right
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yes then how come you don't write down everything the holy spirit tells you as a new form of the bible
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that's fair i mean that's why there's so many denominations that's an issue among christians
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like not why don't you write down everything the holy spirit tells you
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and call it a new bible because you're not supposed to lean on your own understanding that's
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me leaning on my understanding wait who's understanding are you leaning on
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i'm hang on hang on brian this is important i'll tie it in very quickly okay try to be yeah
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very quickly who's understanding are you leaning on
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when i'm reading the bible who's understanding am i leaning on is that the question
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you have no idea and so the thing is is like this is why you have you have a flawed theology
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okay you don't even know what your theology is and because of that and i just showed you why that
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is true i should literally walked you through step by step why this is the case right when i tell you
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christianity is patriarchal christianity from the top down two thousand years of church history it is
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a patriarchal religion where you are to submit to your husband as and it and i i'll give you the text
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if you want sarah called abraham lord you are to submit and call your husband lord as as sarah called
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abraham lord why if that is the case that you're supposed to have that kind of reverence for your
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husband will you not bow that's fair would you bow that's actually that's fair i mean what he said
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was fair yeah it's fair would you bow would you bow to your lord
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andrew i think we've just convinced her to be an atheist
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no never that one never that one no no this i mean this is actually thank you
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no no we get that it's fair would you bow to your husband
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this is hard for me like i'm a new christian so i i'm i'm not
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like you could be leading me down something that i'm okay just give andrew the benefit
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of the doubt he's a hundred percent correct on the theology if he was do you bow to your husband
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well he's the head of yeah he would be you know he's the head and you're the body so then i guess
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yes okay how about this um and andrew maybe you want to weigh in on this too uh you're you get married
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right you want to get married eventually and then have kids yes okay your husband in his determination
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for what's best for the family wants you to sell your boat and stop sailing
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brian just real quick i just wanted uh ephesians 5 22 wives submit to your husbands as to the lord
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who is the lord jesus christ would you bow to jesus christ yes and and i think that actually is a good
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point that you just brought up with that verse because you know the bible also does say that you
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know if there's there's an instance i don't remember the name of the woman but her husband
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was not obeying god and so she went on her own accord to an army and negotiated with them because
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he was being unreasonable he was being prideful and so there is a differentiation there of you know if
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if a man is sacrificial in his love as christ was well so hold up what i'm saying is is if a man is
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sacrificial in his love as christ was who gets to make that decision if you are following christ and your
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husband who gets to make that decision you or your husband if you're let me speak please if your
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husband is leading you away from christ i want to know i'm trying to say something and you're cutting
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me off question if your husband but i was saying something who gets to make the decision who do you
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get to make it or does he if it goes against god he does not get to make the decision if it is
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following the bible who gets to make the decision jesus christ jesus christ gets to make the decision
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okay so jesus christ is telling you then no jesus christ in the bible you follow the bible so if your
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husband i'm asking you a question yes you think your husband's going against theology and he thinks you
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are who submits to who that's fair yeah you don't know no you're supposed to obey as unto the lord for
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this reason because hang on if an impasse comes up if an impasse comes up you are to obey for this reason
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because otherwise you are the person being submitted to you are the ultimate arbiter do you understand if
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you go to your husband and say your theology is wrong you are not doing what god wants
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then you are the ultimate arbiter and not him there's explicit words in the bible so if he
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goes against we can't get to we can't go too much deeper into the theology stuff here but okay yeah fair
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enough i mean um i'm just i'm just i'm just pointing out i have one final very quickly i'll just i'll just
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end it with this if it is the case as brian says okay that you are you are to submit to your husband
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as you would unto the lord then bowing should be no problem right it's your own willful pride that
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would prevent you from doing that it's not an unreasonable expectation if you are to obey as you
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would unto the lord to bow to your husband that's what my ultimate point is i could get into why your
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theology is flawed in another time but i'm just pointing out that it's very flawed very obviously
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flawed but anyway i agree with you thank you i'm trying to learn again i've only been christian for
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a year so i appreciate you speaking through it and actually giving me real information rather than just
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attacking so i do appreciate okay so going back to my thing your husband he says i want you to sell your
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boat and stop sailing do you do it if if that's his will then yes okay all right there you have it
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uh any other objections to the bow video from anybody
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is it wrong yeah but to each their own is it what is it wrong yeah wrong it's wrong about it's wrong
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i mean okay well look well go ahead go ahead go ahead
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why do you think it's wrong the type of person who wants to see as women as equal to you
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what do you mean because i feel like your whole argument is we established at the beginning
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equality is is not not there as in jobs i could just turn this around on you okay like why do women
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want men to open the car door why do women want uh men to open doors why do women want men to pay
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for first dates like do you want a guy to pay for the first date i don't care you don't care you have
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no preference okay i mean it would be nice but there's no gender expectations at all when it comes to what
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you want in the man gender expectations not like there's not i mean it could be the case maybe there's
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nothing huh leading oh leading why that's not very equal of of you to expect him to put in that
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effort takes a lot of work to lead yeah leading's responsibility i just think bowing is a little
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bit overkill but also it's like you're submitting yourself it's it's like a hundred zero do men want
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submissive women wait it's a hundred to zero it feels like you think wait you think kind of like
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hold on like a peasant oh there's things that are way more submissive than a simple bow i mean if you
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actually think about the physicality of it it's actually quite benign takes two seconds anybody
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can do it it doesn't take any effort right yeah but looking at the video she's cooking for you her
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whole life is designated to serving you what's wrong with that that's what i'm saying it's like
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zero hundred is it not oh you can do way more than that that's it that's the easy shit that's the easy
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shit wait until there's a situation where she disagrees with me
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okay but like also like i want her to sell the boat and she doesn't want to sell the boat
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you know because i think that's wrong oh okay why
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i feel like if you love them you don't change them like that
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okay but so um i guess what my frustration i guess the reason i bring up the bow thing is it's like
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this fairly innocent totally benign action it takes no effort from the woman but you guys see it as
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like oh it's disrespectful it's actually no it's like the bear it's the smallest little gesture that
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you can do to show that you respect your partner and i i think what's interesting to me is like women you
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have these expectations on men you want a guy to do all the chivalrous bullshit uh open the car door
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be a gentleman you want a guy to like walk on the uh the ins i guess the inside of the sidewalk
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so that way if a fucking car comes crack he has to die and you get to live he can protect you whatever
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it is um you'd want a guy to take a bullet for you you want all these things you want a guy to pay
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for dates you want a guy to take all the risks of rejection and throughout the course of courtship
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there's like at least a dozen different points where a guy could you know have to take initiative
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and risk rejection you want a guy to take the initiative you want a guy to make the first move
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you guys want men men should do these things you want men to do all these things but the moment men
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say well i want a woman to do this women should do this it's like that's you get all bent out of
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shape if men start saying women should but you guys don't have any issue with saying men should and
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it's just interesting to me like okay a woman will have sex with a guy on the first date
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let him ejaculate inside of her let him ejaculate on her face or in her mouth and she'll
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swallow it uh you'll do that shit but hold on pump the brakes for the bow
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it's symbolism but what don't you think it's kind of crazy that you you got a table of women
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who would not do the bow but you'll let a guy splunk on your face
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because on the on the first date the bow or second date that you you are or the girl is below them but
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what do you think is more degrading a guy blasting on your face getting into your eye your hair's all
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fucked up for a couple days or three seconds no effort what's what's like more degrading
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i feel like someone argue that it's more degrading to bow that's all right i don't know that's just me
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personally yeah that was a good line of reasoning i like i think it's just uh i don't know the other
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confusing thing it's like you as women if you guys and i maybe it's not your standard but i think a lot
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of women how about this just show of hands who here wants a guy to pay for the first date
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okay she's kind of raising her hand all right you guys want men to pay for the first date so let's
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say do you think like a hundred dollars is like a reasonable price to pay for the first date for his
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meal for yours i think maybe it could be cheaper maybe it's like 50 bucks or whatever but i think
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like it's it wouldn't be uncommon for a guy to pay a hundred dollars like to take you to a decent
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restaurant you know a drink each meal whatever if he's taking you somewhere really upscale it could
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be a couple hundred or even into the thousands right it's like so your expectation there let's
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say the guy makes twenty dollars an hour and it's a hundred dollar meal you expect him to work for five
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hours to take you on the date let's say he works a construction job so you want a guy to physically
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labor to be able to take you on the date but all i'm asking for is a bow that takes three seconds
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but you want a guy to work hours to be able to take y'all out how's it wrong for me to want to bow
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but you want a guy to work multiple hours to take you out let's say he's digging ditches he's got to
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literally dig a ditch shovel anybody here shovel that's just hard push back anybody hello all right
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i think the bow symbolizes that the female is below the man and in reality the female is above
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the man so i don't think that it would make any sense to bow to a man dude she's so lost man she's
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so i mean i don't i'm not lost at all and let me explain but the man is digging ditches the man has
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to dig a ditch for five hours out of the day to pay for the day that's what he was made to do
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that's his purpose that's what he was built for and so women are more valuable because we can
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reproduce okay so when it comes to any species reproduction is the most important aspect to
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its survival okay men women are reproduced men are survival okay women so men have to compensate for
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their lack of ability to reproduce with having other skills for survival whereas women the fact
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that we can reproduce alone makes us the superior more valuable if the men disappear the grid goes
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down the refrigerators yes i'm a female i am i'm not i'm not a feminist i'm a female supremacist that is
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that worse than the feminist wild it's more radical isn't that what birds do like the like the peacocks the
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male peacocks are always more beautiful and they have like put on a dance and stuff like that for
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the female peacocks yeah and the female peacocks i mean that's an appeal to same same with like
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the lion but lions like they let the women do all the hunting and they just kick it
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yeah and they they bang all of the females one male do the do the lionesses do they they do the fighting
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too mate or i don't dude it's crazy well they do they do the hunting they do the hunting now there
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there is cases for instance uh there were lions lions actually will get revenge there was hyenas
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who used to attack a single lion pride um and the lions actually went out and murdered all the hyenas
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like they retroactively paid retribution on behalf of their tribe now lions don't kill all lions who are
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around just others who challenge their position if they're males but the women do do all the work
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and the alpha lion generally humps all the women that's just the way it is now some of the other
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women in the tribe they get helped by other male lions that does happen at the you know pride heads
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dictate but i don't think it's a good idea for us to compare ourselves to lions obviously we're not
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i'm just pointing out that if you wanted to reflect on how nature works and then apply it to humanity
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uh definitely the males in nature run everything
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i mean the the male sex in nature runs everything they're always stronger well not always but almost
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always stronger and they almost always set down the dictates i also want a girl who can make me a quilt
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like what kind of quilt uh a very detailed quilt how detailed that's comfortable and warm
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for you to sleep with wait what is it well it's like a blanket right brian you want big needles
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you want the big needle i do you want the big needle yes and if she doesn't know how to churn butter
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she ain't the one she's been saving all this does that be a wolf it has to be a wolf quote something
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like that um let's pull up the video damien let's pull up the video this is uh maybe what do you guys
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think about this maybe related to the bow uh make it a little bigger and also unmute the audio first before
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you play it uh refresh can you did you refresh it uh just refresh it yeah because and then pause it
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immediately refresh yeah pause but uh unmute the audio make it one bigger play it yeah
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i'll forever submit to you miles ew i'll forever respect you miles i'll forever honor you miles
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as the head of our home and no other there is no other there is no one no plans of hell will ever
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prosper in our marriage and will ever hold me not to be a wife that is a proverbs 31 woman i will become
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that woman that builds the home as i follow you as you follow christ that is the only thing that we
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will do in our household and i promise and i vow that in heaven they hear on earth i declare and decree
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i shall be a submissive wife unto you as we continue to do this work of god out forever
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dang wait i have a question i need that woman in my life wait she's married well wait a second wait
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i just want to let all of you know and you can be you can be mad and see i'll get to you but they're
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every man who's a christian who just watched that right now who's a protest which i'm not
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is thinking in their head that's fucking right that's exactly how things are supposed to be
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go ahead shelby are you fully providing in every other aspect for the for your wife and for the
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family if you watch that video she's going through like if you're gonna like financially provide and
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provide like every other thing are you is that like the exchange yeah well yeah if i'm if if this
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is my girl i'm taking care of everything then i think that that's she doesn't have to work yeah but
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there's going to be an expectation there that i agree with that yeah i think that video is beautiful
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she's like i respect you as the leader of the household she's obviously i don't know she's deeply
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infatuated with the fact that he is like a man worthy of respect and i think a lot of women are
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abhorred by that video because they they've never met a man worthy of their respect like they've never
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met a man that was willing to do all of that they have guys that are no offense but just worse
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situations where but hang on now we're getting back into this the the the sip aspect right you keep
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on blaming men for this like yeah women aren't meeting the right guy it's like what is the right
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guy though well in in her case you know it's somebody that would provide you know somebody that would
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ultimately be worthy of respect i really don't think quality yeah well i don't think she said that
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no you don't want equality you don't want to vote i honestly don't care you don't want equality in any
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aspect of life no i mean as like i want to be feminine and i don't want to have to worry about
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certain things i want the man in my life i want to be able to have him lead and have my respect for him
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to do so andrew do you think that's totally fair let me just ask you what is it that he gets
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what does he get he gets my submissiveness and my nurturing feminine abilities and for me to make
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the house a home and to be there for him emotionally and for what he needs to be the masculine version of
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himself are you gonna do what he says yeah within the confines of reason yeah of course okay that's
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fair so let's say that the two of you are in an argument about where to send your kids to school
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and you are adamant that your children should be in a different school than the one that he thinks your
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kid should be in why well it disrupts your your schedule you have to drive an hour and a half out
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of the way should you obey and do what he's asking you to do anyway even though you don't think that it
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could be it conforms to reason yeah and the person that i marry i would assume that our beliefs and what he
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is trying to build is something that i would respect and i would want to build with that
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as well like build with him those things change huh those things change people's priorities change but
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andrew do you believe that all men are worthy of that kind of respect from a woman
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from at least a woman from a woman the truth is is that most women right seem to put themselves above
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men and this is because they get a lot of sexual attention from most men because men are willing to
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sleep with them that see they seem to categorize that with most men want to be with them these are two
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distinct categories so my question would just be simply this to most women you want if you're a
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traditional woman you want the man to take care of things financially you want the man to take care of
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you what does he get most women will just say he gets me what do you get well you get everything paid for
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you get you get your entire life planned out for you you have a man who will wake up at night and
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die on your behalf if the boat is going down he gets on or you get on it and he stays with the boat what
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does he get he gets the woman the woman is the prize right and that's exactly the problem is that you
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think that the woman is the prize and so this is where i disagree what makes women the prize considering
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you just will fuck anybody who doesn't even like you you'll fuck men who don't even like you
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what makes you a prize if you'll fuck a man who doesn't even like you that's why lust is a sin
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and that's why no no let her answer what makes you the prize if you'll fuck a man who doesn't
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even like you i need just a quick exchange here just because it is getting a little very quickly
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yeah what makes you the prize i think regardless of like women and their body count or like who they
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sleep with um i think women are still valuable regardless because women can reproduce and you
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still want smacks out of that woman regardless of like oh you want smacks out of the woman but
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you'd want smacks out of the woman even if you couldn't reproduce with her right yeah okay well
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then the reproduction aspect doesn't seem to be the key here does it so if that is the case then tell me
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again if you'll fuck men you don't even like how are you my prize or any man's prize well i personally
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wouldn't fuck a guy that i don't like and i don't think any woman is fucking guys that they don't like i
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think well this is a massive massive disproportionate distinction between the position you held earlier
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where you were coping over and over again no i said they don't seem to have sex with men they don't
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like all the time because they're exceptional yeah if they're exceptional then they like massive
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contradictions from you again but back to uh red sweatshirt i think we've had enough of your
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contradictions for an evening madame uh red sweatshirt we were we i'm sorry i didn't catch your name
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earlier uh very corner to what you guys would see as my left back to you i was just wondering
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you would submit to everything that your husband asked you to do yeah and if there's mutual respect
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as well in the relationship what does that mean that he sees the value that i also bring to the
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relationship where i do believe that the man and the woman has different aspects that they both bring
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to the relationship but i think that they both have high value who gets to determine that
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i think that it could differentiate in different relationships and i think no yours
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i don't get it who gets to determine your value in the relationship with your man that you have
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i don't i don't know you don't know you don't know who gets to determine like the amount you don't know
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the man you have submitted to man but you don't know who gets to determine your value in that relationship
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well i feel like i would respect him and value him when he he also like sees the value in me
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that's not submission that's a that's egalitarianism that's i will submit based on
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conditionals i'm not saying that i'm equal but i also bring aspects to the relationship that it's
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submission based on conditionals you're saying i have conditions for submission how's that submission
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no i don't think that asking to be seen as value is
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like not submitting yeah but when you say value this is up to you as to what your value is
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is so if you say he's not seeing my value then you get to be the arbiter of what your value is
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that's not that's probably not a guy that i would want to be with because we don't have
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submission because we don't have the same values it can't be submission if you get to make the dictate
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as to how it is that you submit no that's not submission it's not submission if you say
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the man doesn't get to be the arbiter of your value but you get to be the arbiter of the value to the
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man that's the opposite of submission no you're misconstruing my thoughts well it's not misconstruing
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it's misconstruing but i'm willing to hear out how i'm misconstruing your thoughts
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we we do have a lot to get through so you guys need to make a final point on this make it very quick
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yeah yeah i don't know i'm i said i was like i think that the woman should submit to the man
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but she also has value like well you can't just be a piece of trash it's not that you're a piece of
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trash it's not saying you're a piece of trash it's just explaining to you that submission means that you
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have given yourself over to x i have submitted to x like if you submit yourself to jesus christ you
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don't get to determine to jesus christ how it is that you have submitted that's not how it works he's
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the determiner it would be the same thing with a husband if you submit to a god you don't get to
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determine how you submit to the god that god gets to determine how you submit so if that is the case you
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you can't say i have submitted to this thing but i get to be the arbiter of how things work but that's
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because what my value is that would be up to the thing you submit because that's because i know that
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god already sees the value in me very quickly hang on very quickly and i'll let you respond could you
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imagine going to a god and saying you don't get to determine my value
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that would be the that would be antithetical to submitting to the god of course he gets to
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determine the value that's submission yeah but you're submitting to god because you know that he
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already values you and loves you unconditionally oh so it's an exchange it's like a transaction
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no no no it's not like a transaction that's what i'm saying that's not that's the opposite of
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submission that's not what i'm saying anyway i'll let brian moving on sorry brian yeah i guess just
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final thing on this when it comes to submission it's just interesting to me it seems like like
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who here wants to have like a boss babe career anybody probably the woman who would have said yes
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is gone and by the way brian we're at we're at two i'm gonna do a raid over to your channel
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oh you should you should maybe wait until we get into uh this girl's notes for a little bit if you
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got a got a bit more time i don't i don't this evening but um i do appreciate you guys having me
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on all right um i do i do have to have the heart out of it that's fine but guys i really appreciate it
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it was nice to meet all of you no hard feelings um my job is to push back against your
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world views so um i appreciate meeting all of you oh andrew do you want to do a quick shout out for
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debate you yeah you can um yeah i do have a course on how to do and conduct debates called debate
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university brian was a co-sponsor uh which is fantastic you can find that over on uh debate
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university.com so uh get over there verbal combat is the course it's fantastic and by the way we have
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reduced the price you can pick it up now and i highly suggest that you do thank you guys so
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much and you have a wonderful leave thank you andrew appreciate you sending over the raid guys
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debate university.com check it out guys uh okay we're gonna just try to get through all of this real
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quickly uh but when it comes to this last thing on the submission topic it's just interesting to me
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because i feel like women have traded being submissive to their husbands to being submissive
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to your employer i mean that's what you are like you have an employer they they might even bark orders
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at you they'll boss you around do this do this do this you have to do it otherwise you get fired
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wear this don't wear that have your hair like this be professional blah blah blah blah you'll be
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submissive to your employer your cold corporation to your boss but you wouldn't be submissive to the
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man who you love and who loves you who i think will most of your husbands even if they do want a
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traditional relationship and they want you to be submissive are probably going to ask far less of you
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than a corporation will than your boss will than your employer will i mean if you think about a
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female waitress in a given day her boss is going to expect her to okay bring food over here put on
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the happy face with all the rude customers wipe down the table clean the spill clean the floor clean this
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clean that run this order to the pickup take out the trash organize this organize that dozen other
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things i'm not even listing and you'll be a good worker drone a good worker bee but your husband
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just wants you to cook and clean and you don't want to do that you don't won't do a bow i don't know
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maybe you maybe you're like a hostess in your job maybe you don't bow but oh welcome to um
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fucking uh i don't know fucking arby's i don't know they probably don't have hostesses as arby's i don't
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know chilies you're working oh hey there welcome to chilies but you can't hit a bow for the man who you
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love and you love whatever in texas wrote us you had a question yeah if you had gotten rid of like
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um men doing or paying for the first date or men having to open the car doors or having to walk on
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the sidewalk then do you still think that it's still normal for the women to bow down to the men
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so if we get rid of yeah if we get rid of all of it i mean i think it you have to both people have to be
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uh i mean so if we're talking about being traditional i think both people have to
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hold up their end of the deal so like as a guy you can't be non-traditional and expect traditional
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treatment and vice versa for what do you mean for it to not or to not bow and just to be clear also i
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think traditional non-traditional it's kind of a spectrum i don't think everybody's going to be like
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all the way to the extreme over here and like i think you you know in some ways you might not be
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totally traditional but you're mostly traditional whatever um but so what's the question so what does
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it take for it to be obscene for the woman to bow down to the man what does the guy have to do like
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not part of your standards wait what do you mean like i don't i'm not sorry just what does it take
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for like does it take like 50 50 like even split for in all before the bow goes away yeah before so
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like you you're saying like oh brian if the girl was willing to pay like 50 50 with you would you
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like not accept the bow like with all aspects like not even just 50 50 with paying but but if a war
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happened brian would be forced to go out to fight the war uh i guess um but i mean like
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i don't i'm can you be more precise i guess and i don't think it can be 50 50.
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i don't think if an intruder if an intruder breaks into your home like who is going to
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attack the intruder it's not the woman you know there are situations as soon as violence comes into
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play then the 50 50 goes out the window like the woman simply can't in those situations be 50 50 with
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the man like if there's a home invasion and i gotta go kill the guy or whatever
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i don't know who here has a firearm just curious anybody i do okay um so i could kill the man
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that's good for you thank you congratulations thank you uh what was your michaela were you
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coming in no i was gonna say i feel like there's a difference between um like wanting something in
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a relationship and thinking it should happen okay so like i don't know if you love someone
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and you say like i want you to bow to me i feel like that's that's valid like you can ask something
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you can say i want that but when you start saying like things should happen that's when you get to
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like okay well is it 50 50 like is it even i don't think it should be like that in relationships
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well how should it be i think it should be if if you want something like everyone's entitled to
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wanting something there should be a conversation yeah and if you say i want that and the person
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really loves you then like i wouldn't have a problem doing something for yeah so i mean but how about
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this scenario guy goes on a date with you michaela and he's like i would like to have a conversation
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about who's gonna pay for this date and then you're like you're gonna have that conversation and be
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cool with how that date's going um well if i don't if i don't want to have a conversation
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oh then i feel like that's what do you mean you don't want to have the conversation i don't know
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like what if the guy what if the guy who wants you to bow you want to have the conversation with him
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about not wanting to bow and he's like i don't want to have that conversation you should just bow um
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well then you're probably just not a good match okay that's why people you know some people are
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better for each other than others but i mean i'm trying to think of a situation where we have
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the conversation about something that i'm displeased with like oh i don't want to have to do this
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well i think like when you love someone you you like
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you decide what you will sacrifice i guess for them like if someone came up to me was like i really
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really really really want you to bow and i like really loved him i feel like i'd be like
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should be on the first date you gotta hit the bow on the first date well no but that's fine like
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you're entitled to wanting a bow on the first date i don't think you're wrong for that i think you coming
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and saying you should bow to me on the first date is like a little kind of pushing it she should just
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do it she should just do it i don't need to tell her to do it she just does it because she knows
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she watches the podcast she's like ah this is what brian likes i'm just gonna do it in that case
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yeah no in that case then if you find a girl that feels like feels like she should do it for you then
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that's a good match i don't know what if i went up to a girl and i didn't even know her and i'm like
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i'd like to have a conversation about you making the first move i don't want to make the first move
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but i just made the first move but like you carry the rest of the conversation and then like i'll ask you
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out on the date but then you pay for the date we should have conversations about that i think if
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she felt like she also wanted to have that conversation that's fair i also maybe we should
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let's have a conversation about who goes for the first kiss would you would the first kiss would you
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prefer it go like that or would you prefer the guy to just go for it no i don't think you necessarily
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have to have a conversation about everything that's what you said though you said there should be a
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conversation about the bow i mean no no not not that there should be a conversation but it's
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like you're entitled to wanting what you want oh okay i mean how is how is a girl gonna like know
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that you want a bow unless she doesn't watch the show then i'm gonna have to tell her we just have to
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change all of society all of this podcast that's what we're doing you know what though i've had
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multiple women uh dm me who are in relationships and they're like look brian at first i thought
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this bow thing's fucking ridiculous but i just like hit it real quick for my boyfriend he was like
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he liked it i've had multiple women tell me the boyfriend liked it and it's like this totally benign
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takes no effort and you guys are so object to it so much you know what i'll try it and i'll
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give it a shot let me know yeah let me know how wow changing parts and minds brian incredible
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yeah i don't know anyways i do want to move things on here just to get through everything
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uh okay let's see here we have still bella or no i think okay samson
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uh which in return something about high on the valid fertile breeder
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oh i thought you were gonna elaborate a bit oh i don't know i forgot that was oh okay is there
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anything you want to ask or okay okay i do know okay so um when you are attractive in your 30s
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um i think being 30 years as a woman you haven't even decreased at all but there is people that will
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start to slowly decline a little uh anyway there's something about uh how 20 year olds are more attractive
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than 30 year olds but i think 30 year olds are more attractive than 20s for a couple reasons
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one being your mind um your work ethic that you've made in the last 10 years and then how
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you are aging um and i think that makes you a valid fertile breeder and i think men appreciate
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to see a valid fertile breeder okay there you go all right yeah that's cool um and uh and i mean just
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to be clear like i want my girl to bow do my laundry whatever i'm gonna take care of everything
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i think that's a that seems like a fair trade-off yo andrew thank you for the raid man do appreciate
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it very much appreciate it uh they bow that they bow without saying it directly somebody in the chat
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said that yeah um okay going to ebony i wish we got into this stuff when andrew was still here
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the most degen stuff ever but um all right uh actually here you one of your notes here you
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say body count doesn't matter oh it doesn't uh going around the table uh do you think body
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count matters does it not matter starting with michaela going around i don't know i don't know
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how about this do you think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body count
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um no okay i think it matters you think it matters i think they are insecure i think they're probably
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comparing Shelby okay i don't think body count matters it doesn't matter all right
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um kind of in the middle but it kind of matters okay um i don't think it matters i think it matters
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um yeah half does matter i guess yeah i definitely think it matters Shelby yeah i just say that i don't
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think it matters because from my personal experience i'm not like the same person that i used to be
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and i hope that somebody wouldn't hold that against me let me rephrase the question would you hold it
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against a man for taking it heavily into consideration what a woman's body count is
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um if that's who she still is and is continuing that behavior but isn't who she is at this point
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somewhat based off of her past yeah but i mean if she's still continuing with the act of being lustful
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but i know that i've changed tremendously as a person and
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yes i've made mistakes but i've also learned from that and i've also grown as a person and became
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better from it yeah it sounds to me like it does matter that or that you at least wouldn't
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be down on a man for thinking that it matters he has his own opinion
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but i don't personally think that body count matters because you can be like it doesn't reflect
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that the current person you are do you really think that somebody that's bonded with someone
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physically and even chemically she was talking about the oxytocin like don't you think that that
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is playing into how things are no matter how much of how much of a new person you are don't you think
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that that plays a role yeah i mean you can't go back and change anything but because what the
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science suggests is that the more people a woman has bonded with the less sticky the bond becomes as
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time goes on hold on let's um here how about this uh since body count doesn't matter what's your body
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count um seven okay going around the table michaela one okay eight eight okay i'm not gonna answer do
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you want to do range like 10 to 20 something like that no comment okay yeah no comment yeah yeah i don't
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feel you guys should do a comment come on give us a range anisa range how about the range
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no comment let more than 10 okay uh what about you range give us a range at least okay so consider
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i'm 33 i think i'm the oldest one here yeah like
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a range or you could give the number i mean i'm fine with the number you could give the number give
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the numbers i feel like some things are supposed to be private and something especially someone that's
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trying to get married you know look i should have uh brian's whipping out the gifts he's gonna
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give a gift not that it's like a lot i just feel like not everything has to be shared to the world
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um hold on my lin gertrude wait you can't see it what oh there you go will you marry me
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wait what will you marry me so we're engaged once we're engaged you can disclose your body count
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because you're already it's like you're trying to get married we're engaged it's all good
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i i think it's something that's private between you and the person that you're with
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you know there's just certain things that are supposed to be private range how about just a range
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then you don't have to give the exact number like no okay just pass me all right what about you
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who's gonna have some colonies here um i don't know the exact number but i would say eight she would
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say eight okay that's it's i've been like essayed so i don't consensual consensual i i would just
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rather not talk on the subject like that makes me very uncomfortable
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um mine i'm not gonna reveal either but it's all been for either uh hope of love or
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a role play fantasy you could see it in their eye or like the energy that day that's what
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you guys got screwed at the beginning of the table yeah let's give some
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yo guys they were all on yo chat they said big ups big ups to my girl mikayla to my girl bella to my
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girl ebony why do you keep forgetting my name my girl no i was i wasn't sure if you were a they them
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no no not because you look that way because i feel like you didn't aren't you non-binary no when
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did i ever say i was not i thought you i'm sorry i'm sorry ebony what when i thought in your your
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pronouns were she they no no you must be confused me i must have you confused with somebody else yeah
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you i apologize ebony i apologize that's a bow now i have to propose to make up for it uh yo w's in the
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chat i want to see what kayla wella and webbony wait webbony in the chat for for actually revealing
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hold on this is he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer you guys and then to those of you who
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didn't do it just do it that's crazy don't let your dreams be dreams that's crazy man yesterday
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you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true i will give a two dollar bill i have
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more than this if you guys disclose you each get a two dollar bill do you know how much this is worth
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nothing do you know how much a two dollar bill is worth you can get it at the bank will you do it
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what shall be two dollar bill for a hundred oh i don't care that much that was anisa what about you
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no i'm good no she okay i said she oh yeah we forgot to congratulate her too oh yeah oh my i'm such
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scumbag good job i'm proud of you mecca good job weka in the chat okay all right there's the body count
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um let's see if there's anything else ebony you said oh boy now we're getting i wanted andrew to
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stay for yo crucible crew you're gonna want to hear this shit because it's crazy yeah he's gone oh
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why do you need it peaceful now i wasn't here i was oh okay yeah he's gone i was hoping we could get
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into this um you said all men's income should be deposited directly into their wives accounts yes
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i don't agree married men should like their money you have to pop the glasses off for the
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second okay we need to see your eyes yeah look deep into my eyes oh my goodness say this shit okay
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yeah so i think that when it comes to married men all of their money should be deposited directly into
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their wives accounts because first of all we know men love to cheat oh my goodness and so we know men
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love to go and give their money over to their mistresses and stuff like that and i think to
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ensure that women aren't being screwed over why not have it pragmatically where men have to
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get like when they apply for a job they have and they put in their bank information they put in their
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wives i think women should handle the finances in relationships i think do you do you understand
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the credit problem in america like who spends like the most money women in like relationships and
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why most relationships end up in like financial issues but there are a lot of cultures where you know
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the women are the ones who handle the finances and it's perfectly fine in a capitalist society it's
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not panning out women are 70 percent of the consumers but that's we target women when we're
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marketing most of the time like um anyways just to be to move things on though that's not even the
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most interesting thing you say you say no way you say male chastity is superior yes wait what does that
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mean okay so basically i don't like i do fin domer i'm in that world yeah are you familiar with the chastity
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cage i yeah the yeah i know what that is so i think that it's like a belt that it locks it locks
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yeah it locks up their balls and they're yeah i don't know if i can say it on here but yeah it
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locks their pp up and i think we as a society should normalize that i think we as a society
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society society should normalize like men being in chastity cages i think that it would prevent a
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lot of cheating that men like to do so for example right i think that if a man wants to be in a
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relationship with a woman like in the talking stages or the dating stages i think that you know
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he should allow her to put a cage on i mean yeah he should allow her to put a cage on him she keeps
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the key and then if he if he goes around doing things with other women she'll know right and so
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you know he can't now it's nothing unconsensual raise your hands if you're in favor of the chastity
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cage for men i agree just to be clear brian she might be on to something right wait raise a hand
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show hands raise them high michaela no not in favor bella loves it uh loves it loves it loves it
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not you hold on y'all object to just a bow but y'all want to like a chat or they lie more i think that
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in order to prevent them from you know indulging in their lust and being weak to their lust i think we
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have as women have a responsibility to hold them accountable well that's not even the craziest
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thing that you think you also think that men should have curfews yes i think men are a danger to
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themselves and i think that in order to keep the streets keep the streets i think in order to keep
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the streets not only safer for women but even for men themselves i think we should have men have
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have curfews have curfews yeah women no because women are a danger to society like men are
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what have you seen a woman driver crimes that men commit men are the number one killers of each
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other yeah question though what time does the curfew start like dark i think probably not not and
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i'm talking about non-working men because i know there will be like police officers but like we would
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need someone to enforce this right but yeah i think probably like 11 p.m because you know once
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it gets to like 12 it's like that's when all the bad that's pretty generous of you 11 i was thinking
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you'd go for like 9 p.m yeah but 11 p.m you know once we get to like midnight that's when all the bad
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stuff starts going down raise a hand from the women at the table should men have an 11 any curfew
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should they have any curfew show fans from the women oh yeah damn bella yes oh my goodness all
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right well that's not even bars are probably gonna go out of business but that's not even
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the worst how is there more i thought that was it how is there more uh now before we have some tweets
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of yours that we're gonna pull up before we do i found on some of your other pages here are some
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things you've said actually no do we do the tweets first let's do the tweets are you talking about my
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tiktok lives i have no idea no um but your friend who was going to be on the show was it her who was
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into the weird race play stuff yeah are you into that or no no because i i used to be i got her on
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that i got her on that she was like yes i would do race play in front of the ghost of malcolm x yeah
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ridiculous yo we got two we got two other black women here okay this black woman black woman she said
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like she's into race play stuff like she wants a white dude no to be having sex with her and like
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saying the hard r and then i asked her i was like would you be how would you feel doing that
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in front of the ghost of mlk and she was like that would make it better
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oh my god and now i was like what about malcolm x even better i was like that's
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up oh that's crazy i wish she was here she's such a character bro next time next time we'll get her
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on oh she sounds like all right guys you guys are gonna think these tweets are crazy though
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mikayla's gonna love it bella's gonna love it shelby's gonna love it
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anissa's gonna love it mecca's gonna love it i don't know how you're gonna feel you guys might be
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upset i don't know okay whatever i'm just kidding i don't know how you guys are gonna think okay uh
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go ahead pull it pull up the tweets oh my god now i want you while we go through there's like 20 of
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these i want you to read it say it slayer of white men wow that's race and you've got the middle finger
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i mean white men are the main clientele in fin dom they're really they really like to be dominated i
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don't know slayer of white men okay next read them as they come up so read it
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i keep men in cages and only let them out to make more money for me yep
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despicable absolutely despicable yeah um that is abhorrent uh next
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i love using and abusing men with no mercy and that's just simple like
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despicable absolutely all right next i hate men but men love you
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next wow stupid white boy you said this about me didn't you i did this is after our live stream
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oh my god stupid white boy bro that's really racist okay next
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men deserve to be treated less than dogs they need to be locked up in cages and only allowed to
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come out to only allowed to come out only to shit piss and eat but only if they've been good boys
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yeah i stand on that mikaela's smiling she's holding back a smirk especially i think she's
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enjoying this i don't know hold on i listen we've we've only looked at like four or five of them
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i'm not even gonna say anything i'm gonna let the women at the table do you have any objections to
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these statements that she's making that's why i'm laughing because they're out of pocket like
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they're just crazy i mean i agree with that i hate men but i like i see that for fun like i'll see that
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for fun like i don't actually like i don't actually hate men but but no the one about the cages okay
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no i feel like sometimes like we all have these like inner thoughts like when a guy like and that's
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what twitter's for it's like isn't that you never expect your tweets to get read back to you that's
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why yeah yeah this is unique for me wouldn't that no girls here have come on the first one was crazy
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do you actually believe those things or do i mean i told you my views i think men should be i think we
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should normalize chastity cages i think we should have curfews on men i think she's a misandrist yeah
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i'm a female supremacist yeah she believes this shit i just thought they were funny yeah i don't
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agree she's for real yeah i mean i think that men are lesser i think men are weak and that's why
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they're giving all their money to women online no just weak-minded okay uh ladies any any uh
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you guys are a lot of generalizing you guys should be like i mean as a woman you should be like i will
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not stand for this i mean i don't think it's okay like if a man said that there would be so much
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turmoil about it but a woman saying it like it's societally acceptable like it's it's it's it's i
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don't think that it's okay to say that about either genders i think you live in a beautiful society that
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has been created and sustained by men and it's almost fascinatingly interesting that you can make
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those kind of claims because of the beautiful society that you've been living in yeah that gives
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you the rights to say that that they made for us where you can have that interesting viewpoint let's do
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let's see the rest let's see the rest read it the good white boys who love to submit oh my goodness
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bnwo that stands okay wait i didn't read it where are the good white boys who love to submit to bnwo
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bnwo stands for black new world order oh my goodness watch who the fuck is that guy
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what is that i don't know what that is what does that mean do you guys know what that is i've never
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heard of that before bnwo are you familiar with like cuck holding oh my gosh like uh sadly yeah it's
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like it's like in that realm in a sense it's like when a guy watches like the wife okay i figured we
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got a we got a message here christopher murphy if andrew didn't leave you'd be in turmoil chair three
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i tried to tell him i tried to tell him i'm like bro you want to stay for this ship but okay all
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right uh chris guys w's in the chat for christopher murphy with the big 200 super chat thank you so
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much man appreciate it uh next we'll do the next one go ahead men shouldn't vote just make them
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slaves so they can send all their money to me yeah i think that i think that you know men voting
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is why we're in this predicament now unfortunately what predicament what's the predicament we have
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this predicament trump is removing the constitution off the page yes he did and he's focusing on trans
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people like we're not literally in a economic recession right now or what like recession we're
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in a recession and he's focusing on attacking trans people are we not anymore are you talking about the
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executive order today about the like ban or maybe it was yesterday like uh banning the transgender
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people from the military stuff like that he's also doing other stuff why is that wrong i mean because
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why like let trans people do exactly what everyone else does okay but do trans people need like ongoing
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perpetual medical intervention no i don't think so they don't need hormones constantly yeah but i mean
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there's people do they need surgical procedures do you think it's the military's job to give trans
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people surgical procedures like giving a i don't think they need a male fake tips i have a theory on
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that by the way i don't think they need surgical procedures i think but they need the hormones right
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yeah okay do you think in like a battlefield situation that we should like be giving uh
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uh estrogen hormones to male combatants male as in like trans men no male as in well transgender women
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yeah i mean why not i think like are we going to stop people with mental health issues from being in
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the military yes it is it is a mental health so so if the if the i guess the conservative position on
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this is that they view this as a mental illness issue then the military frequently precludes people with
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mental illness from being able to serve in the military okay and so and not only is it mental
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illness but if it requires constant medication which comes at the expense of the military this has
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this has nothing to do with making the military an effective offensive or defensive force well then i
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guess if it's coming from that perspective it's like the medication thing then i guess so i could see
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i could see that but it's just the other stuff of like oh well we're not going to recognize their
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identity and stuff i don't think that's important at all what does it mean he's like there's only
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going to be two genders recognized in this country like man and woman shelby says because yeah there is
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and that's why a trans man is a man and a trans woman is a woman their gender reveal when they were
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being born they were either a boy or a girl so do you think that when a woman transitions to be a man or
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when a man transitions to be a woman she or he is completely equal to the sex that they have
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transitioned to like do you think there's any distinguishable characteristics between a biological
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female and a trans female or a biological male and a trans male sure there are some biological
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differences but i think as long as like they're on the hormones and like um they're doing the surgeries
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like over time um like are you talking about the physical strength thing like the worry about sports
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and bathrooms and stuff yeah i mean there's just there's a whole bunch of things that men and
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women are literally built differently like that there are things that you have as a female and a
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male has that are different we are not born the same right but again like these people are taking
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hormones that are suppressing like their physical strength and i mean when a trans woman loses a sport
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oh we'll get more into that stuff a little bit later girl in chair three the only cage we really
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need is a gibbet for you just put it in the public square and invite every mentally ill man that gave
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you money to watch you suffer what is a gibbet i'm actually not sure what a gibbet is that is cool uh
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here let's get through the rest of the tweets then we can come back to some of this convo go ahead
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pull it up all right read it for us oh what did i say i've been on break for half of a month and i'm
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still making four figures lol men will always be failures okay next
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men are so dumb yikes next how does subs send me eight wait had a sub send me 8 000 oh it disappeared
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oh here although men are too men are too dumb okay next
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these subs are liars they may be submissive but they're still men yeah these that that that came
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from like a lot of like these subs they'll like there's next next okay white men deserve to be
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locked in cassidy forever it's not just men it's white man damn like as a mentally stable woman i would
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never say anything like that so you're saying she's mentally unstable i mean say it say it with
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your chest say with your chest go ahead shelby you got it off of do you need the squid you need
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the squid to say it go ahead um get her the squid and some of the beliefs that you have it does lead
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me to what's unstable about it it's like you have all these like bad connotations about men
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and white men in particular have you never met like a good man like have you never met a man that
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you're like oh he doesn't deserve to be in a cage i'd love to get to know you what about barack obama
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does he belong in the cage joe but i think they all do i think even barack obama yes what about
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um nelson mandela i don't know who that is i've heard that name before but i don't know who that
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like what is he known for you don't know nelson mandela south africa okay are your tweets like
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like to find like guys to like i was gonna ask like guys do you think mlk sorry yeah they find me
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through my twitter okay yeah so that's that's what i was like kind of figuring because like guys that
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want like like dominatrix they like see these tweets like oh yeah like she'll like put me in
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my place like yeah i kind of figured to write to get like more it's marketing okay so you don't actually
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no she means it so you definitely would you put gandhi in the cage who is gone i don't know these
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people you're talking about i don't know who gandhi is um would you put i don't know um would you put
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mlk in a cage oh definitely i think he was cheating on his wife yikes i guess that there is some truth
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that he was probably i think that's the rumors anyways um malcolm x in the cage i don't know
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much about him you just like probably sorry all right by the way jc says uh normally we don't do
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tens but we the black community do not claim this woman she does not speak for us we are intelligent
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i promise oh my god i'm tired next oh boy okay oh my goodness they keep coming
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it's juneteenth white boy reparations are due get to sending to some black goddesses you know it's
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actually funny i got like a thousand dollars from that tweet alone do you know what i feel like
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oh boy would you be willing to pay me reparations for what for going through these suites uh no but
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are you right-handed or left-handed i'm right-handed i'm left-handed and this is not has nothing to do
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with race but i feel because i'm left-handed i am owed by the right-handed people because scissors
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fuck me up uh desks the fucking the desks you know and like when you were a kid they had like
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the little thing on the right side never on the left side for your arm uh ink bro if you write left
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handed yeah with a pencil are you lefty too no but smeared i invested more in soap because of this okay
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i'm the oppression of who here is right-handed raise your fucking hands you right-handed you're
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left-handed i'm a lefty uh i want all of you to go into your purses right now and give me
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she doesn't get anything but give me 10 bucks for the pain that i have been through
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i'll cash also my vision's bad so who here has good vision uh i'm wearing glasses so i every
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year i spend hundreds of dollars on new spectacles and contacts i think you guys need to pay me
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reparations too seems like bad genetics you guys wow excuse you
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okay that was cool all right thank you uh wait this is one of the most uh okay thank you thank you
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jeff appreciate it uh thank you thank you for the uh message oh we have uh this oh okay
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ha ha donated two hundred dollars wait what red shirt is a disgusting coward please who's a red shirt
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k-y-e-s-s you have a fat racist baboon in front of you and all of you are too cowardly to say anything
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pathetic wait what wait what is it me no i think i don't know i'm a little confused ha ha ha red shirt
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is disgusting is he confusing me and her am i the because i'm the only fat person here so am i
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am i the fat racist baboon okay why i'm so lost everybody here is pretty trim so i mean i don't
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know who they're talking about but all right thank you man appreciate it all right let there how many
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more let's get to the rest pull it up read it wow another i hate men classic that's just wow oh my god
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just turned just turned an alpha man into a simp i love being hot i mean hold on what
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shut the hell up normalize putting men in cages and leaving them there to ride
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and then the poke with the stick every now and then i love that response
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no one looked directly after next oh my god all you pathetic white beta cucks should be begging to
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serve as my lifelong bitch and atm that's all you are and will ever be damn
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next oh my god can i say that word yeah you can say it's fun such a tiny penis makes
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you such a worthless man the hottest thing you can do is open up your wallet and shut the fuck up
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you should know that your place as a man is to open that fucking wallet and shut the fuck up
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i'm just so iconic like looking back at these it's like
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you know this ass makes you weak white boy
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you know what fuck it scroll down no don't do that wait did she wait check check it first make sure
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it's okay is it is she wearing clothes no i'm not naked all right fuck it i was in the gym
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i mean shut the hell up y'all y'all be dealing with the flattest asses hold on as a pale white guy
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whatever dude that's not even my best photo i could wait you know what after seeing that photo
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i think any guy who's attracted to your phenotype is a pdf file
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i don't think you i don't think you got enough i look like a child i don't think you have enough
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therefore phenotype i don't have enough woman grown woman booty there's just not enough there i'm
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sorry my dear i'm sorry yeah i'm working on it that's why i was in the gym i'm working on it okay
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good talk next is there are my goodness shows uh shows juneteenth is coming soon and you white
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boys have some reparations to pay handed over loser yeah that's fucked up okay next
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okay i love being a home-wrecking bratty dommy making old men spend send me money and think
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about me all night while they laid next to their sleeping wives it's so hot
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wait tilt your mic down a little bit um wait so you're you you like uh enjoy the whole ruining
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marriages thing i don't ruin any marriages i just think it's funny you think it's funny to
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ruin marriages didn't you say that men deserve being put into a chastity belt because they cheat
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yeah and yeah but it's not my responsibility as a stranger to make sure that they don't cheat
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that's great you know all right is there any more that's their own choice that's it that's it oh my
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i don't know it's hard to handle all that racism and sexism um do the girls here have any do the any
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of the girls want to rebuke her we need saving somebody needs to come to our defense all right any
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girls here are gonna rebuke this yeah i i think there's probably a lot of generalization and then
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maybe i don't think you should ever talk about anyone's race or even like i just i just believe
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if you're gonna you should respect everyone and like whether they're men i do respect everyone i'm
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not racist it's just it's just telling people they should be locked up in cages and poked with a
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stick it doesn't really sound like respect i feel like you don't really believe they don't deserve
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respect that's what they like it's crazy bro it's crazy bro let me uh let me shout out let me see if
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anybody has actually i mean like they're funny if it's like a joke but i don't even it's just a kink
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it's just a sexual domination kink that's all uh guys if you want to do a contribution then
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no cash app whatever pod i'll give you guys a shout out we just have ian who sent in 10 via venmo
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and then we have thank you so much man and then we had um it was wait it was uh chris
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chris with the uh 15 on cash app thank you guys so much w's in the chat for them uh okay so uh we have
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phinny hate to burst your female supremacy bubble but your supremacy
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redounds to nothing more than being an incubator covered by protoplasm big words here unfortunately
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you don't come with a mute button can i respond yeah so i know and i understand that you are
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a loser with a pot belly and a receding hairline living in your mother's basement making 30k a year
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but sending half of your weekly income to a podcast to talk to a girl who's getting money because you're
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a hater will not make you a high value man please go spend that money on a on a decent date to applebee's
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like you can afford on a girl and maybe then you'll stop being so bitter okay yeah did somebody pee at
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the table it smells like piss did somebody do the doors open it's i think it's coming outside are you
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trying to get the attention off of you did you pee no the bathroom does kind of smell i think i'm
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starting to smell it but it's coming from that who did it who did it wait hey damien can you close
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the bathroom door man that's crazy damn somebody strong enough no i think he's been eating their
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asparagus who had asparagus somebody got some fox urine or some shit i don't know that's crazy yo luke
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thank you for that lucas excuse me thank you man do appreciate it uh let's see here and then uh
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okay well that's that's pretty much it for all the notes here's what we're gonna do um yeah just
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a few more a few more things to get through who's willing to take off their makeup
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you don't want to does two dollar bill but y'all didn't have a dollar bill
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i'll wipe my face to prove i've been up since 4 a.m just so you know have makeup on
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all right i like gary who who will take it off will you take it off you said wait you said you
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would take it off i did say you said you would take it off no anisa hey come on anisa come on
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it was like four other girls that said they'll take their makeup off
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what's the point of this it's to um go to bed from the makeup go ahead bella take it go ahead
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go for it i don't have to wash my face when i get home
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anybody else anybody mikayla no the i just don't want to do it because then i have to like i have
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to wash my face off immediately after i have that stuff on on it those makeup wipes have so much oil
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in them yeah those are off of the line this is the second time the best only the best for my girls
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i get you neutrogena you want some like off-brand like cvs no i get you neutrogena okay well i
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appreciate the thought i'm a gentleman um all right here we're going to do a few things from the
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questionnaires we're not going to do everything just because it's already late um is it didn't
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notice yeah so funny wait were there other reacts damien or i don't think so i don't think there's
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any other reacts um all right here we'll do this uh let's see one sec guys any any final thoughts
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from any of the panelists here before we get into a few other things and then wrap up the show
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i just wanted to say since i used to do fandom too uh-oh you still do it why don't you do it
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anymore you still do it it is a lot of work isn't it that's why i've been kind of like and he said
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they're top of the line they are top of the line it's not really about trying to be racist um it's
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just the white men typically like being called for being white men like the the people that are
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she's attracting they thrive on the fact that they're being called white men right it's like
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a kink to them exactly yeah i've never met a white guy a little weird but it's a little weird but like
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it's not her take the fakes off too or are those like glued on fur they're glued on okay it doesn't
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matter are you gonna take your makeup off no i'm leaving all my makeup on uh that beard let's see
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uh okay let's get into it would you rather cross paths with the men or a bear in the forest
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bear bear wait let's start with michaela i would definitely rather cross paths with a man okay
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i said bear uh just scoot your mic a little closer to you okay what about you man oh wow that's
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surprising okay i can fight a bear a bear a bear bear a man a bear a bear i've actually had that happen
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oh boy okay and then what about you samson man man okay a lot of bears here why do you uh why
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really quickly we won't linger too long on it why do you pick bear because i could eat a bear
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starting with uh bella i feel like with a bear i would just get killed but with the man i would
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hardwood south creek mm-hmm next shelby um i picked the bear because it's just their natural
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instinct and they don't really know that they're doing anything wrong whereas a man
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obviously knows what they're doing and they can torture you longer and i would i wouldn't feel as
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like victimized by a bear wow okay uh who else um a bear just like you guys said like it's natural
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instincts he crossed paths with a man what was it in a forest like what is he doing in a forest you
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don't know his intentions he's hiking you're you're probably what if it's like a we didn't specify
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if it's like like a hiker i think i think it's like a hike you're you're in the forest i'm still
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gonna cross paths with a bear okay why do you pick bear um because i figure out i think i'll be able to
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figure out a way to kill a bear and then i could use i could eat it to me use its fur to keep warm
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how are you gonna kill the bear i don't know but i'll figure it out even guns don't kill bears
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like you need a certain caliber to kill a bear or just wait till it dies or i don't know i'll figure
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it out i'm not disagreeing because i also chose bear but okay it's more useful um i have i've come
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across a bear twice backpacking because that's like one of my favorite things to do is backpack and i go by
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myself and one time the bear literally just saw me and kept walking uh the other time i was asleep
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and it came across my tent and literally sniffed me and kept walking but i have had men follow me
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into the wilderness when i've been on like 60 mile backpacking trips and that is absolutely terrifying
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like one time i literally had a family that i saw as i was going around the prescott circuit loop
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because i used to live in arizona and i had to get a ride back with them to my car because there
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was a man following me for 10 miles and he thought i didn't see him but he was behind me so i'd rather
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be with the bear in that situation yeah but how many men have you walked past that did absolutely
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nothing to you that's fair i mean is the you know bears sometimes don't they're sometimes they're not
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bothered by you and if it's you know an aggressive bear or an aggressive man i still would rather be
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around an aggressive bear because a man will sexually assault you before you die versus a
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bear will kill you so i'd rather be killed than sexually assaulted and then killed uh but i mean
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you have significantly more data points when it comes to interactions with men uh yeah sure there are
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bad men out there and maybe they've uh and they've done bad things to you or you know you've had
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uncomfortable or awful experiences with men i don't doubt this at all uh but you also have like data
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points of like men who you're just walk past the street that's true don't even look at you don't
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care whatsoever if they're following you've probably passed tens of thousands maybe hundreds of thousands
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of men in your entire life didn't do a single thing to you but it's basically my understanding
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is while you're you either you have experiences or maybe you've on top of that you've heard experiences
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of other women who've had bad experiences with men and because of this there's like some you
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your concern as well the guy could essay me essentially uh so on that note what is what
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percentage of men then because you're doing a risk assessment you're thinking well the man could do
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nothing the bear could do nothing the bear could kill me the man could kill me the man could essay me
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what percentage of men do you think would uh be inclined to uh essay a woman in this situation
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like a woman alone in the in the woods yeah what percentage of men i don't know if you it doesn't
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have to be precise it could be you could say 50 60 30 10 what do you think i i really can't answer
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that question i don't know i don't know i think if they were following me then that's obviously a
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different scenario if you're just saying a random man or a bear i would pick like the man if he's not
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following me but if they're following me that's okay look here's the scenario okay you spawn into
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a forest randomly okay then you have two buttons that are presented to you you can spawn in a random
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man from the entire u.s population or a random bear okay yeah man then man but if yeah that's different
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that's not how i understood the question that's fine yeah uh we got you you said bear what do you i mean
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so you all of you who say bear i'm assuming there's some component of fear when it comes to essay what
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percentage of men uh do you think would essay you or be inclined to essay i guess maybe like 50
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percent half okay what about you 50 into the mic just closer 50 50 i'd say like 60 60 30 30 okay
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so wait 50 50 60 30 oh well you said man but i mean no no no i'm like what was the question the
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question was would be inclined to ask yeah what percentage of men in the entire population of
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the united states would uh you think if given this opportunity would essay you
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i mean i answered bear but you still want i mean man do you still want to answer i mean if you want
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it sounded like you wanted to answer like one percent maybe one percent okay
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sure 89 89 huh 89 i do i think you think it's so you but you pick if you think that you pick man
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you said you picked man right well bear will kill you you're talking about just um essay yeah oh
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that's a difference 89 wow um okay so uh 89 50 50 60 30 uh let's i guess start with those um do you have
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brothers one one brother you have cousin male cousins sisters um one two you have a dad no no dad passed
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away i just no dad okay uh grandparents no um yeah grandpa okay grandpa you have brothers how many
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brothers one one you have a dad yeah grandparents uh male cousins yeah four brothers four brothers
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you got a dad yeah grandparents yeah male cousins yeah brothers father grandparent okay uh do you have male
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friends okay what about you and dad brothers no father yeah male friends cousins yeah grandparents okay
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uh so you said you had four brothers was it and sorry did you say you had one brother yeah so there's
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like a 50 chance your brother's an essay-er and then two of your brothers are essay-ers
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no no i'm not saying they are well you said 50 percent of men this would include your immediate
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family true so i want you to look into i'm not look into this camera right here and you don't have to
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say their name but be like hey my i don't know maybe you don't know which of the two brothers are
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essay-ers but tell your brothers that they're essay-ers no but oh so your family is just different
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no i'm not saying they're different but i'm not gonna say that either what the hell but why not
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i mean your own statistics would indicate that they could two of your 50 percent that blood brothers
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are essay-ers they could probably be the 50 percent that's not shelby you said you had male friends 50
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60 of them are essay-ers all the men you know 60 of them essay-ers but that's because like
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like i don't hang around people that would like do things like that so it like skews you know i mean
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i don't but okay all right 30 of your all your uh male relatives are essay-ers if given the chance
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i look into this camera and say hi family i'll see you at the family reunion 30 of you men are essay-ers
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say it into the camera i'm not saying that i'm just saying if they were given the chance no
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repercussions they would 33 wow okay change the whole culture of the world and then just be
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and then you 89 of your male um not my family of the world like it was allowed
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the whole world all right i don't know that's kind of crazy but um
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pretty wild uh okay well uh all right let's see here a couple more notes um while i'm just looking
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at these any thoughts from anybody any final topics you guys want to hit on we're gonna wrap here very
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soon this is making me sad very sad well just the how incredibly i don't know you guys are so down on
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men i mean you guys have had bad situations i mean 50 of men you think would essay you if they got the
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chance that's that's an incredible incredible statistic i can confidently say and i don't know
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any of these girls that they have all had at least one experience and that's like bare minimum of
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feeling assaulted at one point in their life that is so and that's it's so terrible yeah which i totally
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agree with but just consider the amount of people of men that you've had good interactions with
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like verbally assaulted like every single day really yeah today how do you get what happened
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like at work tell me what happened today i work at like a coffee shop and like literally an older
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man with his family was like i can't remember the verbiage but he's like i'm trying to think of a way
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to assault this girl or harass this girl he said harass this today yes he said i'm thinking of
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away at work today with he said he was with his family yeah like it happens like way more than
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y'all think because you guys don't experience it through our eyes and like being a girl you don't
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experience but how many good interactions do you have with a man on every single day no it does because
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it's percentages it's like if you're taking the negative the negative things you have to take the
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positive ones into account as well you know that's like that's like me getting whatever
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hurt by my guys say things guys like they'll look at you and you don't even know what's going through
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their minds the culture is surrounding sex right like that's what we were talking about earlier with
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hookup culture so it's fair to say that like these frustrated men are assaulting women like they're
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there there are a lot of cases of assault and if not if not reported well you know sometimes it's
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like you feel vulnerable you feel like you can't report it because how was i weak enough to let this
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happen to me like you start to question your own worth when you're in a position like that and you know
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maybe it's not 50 maybe it's only 20 but when you don't report it then they they'll do it to the next
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person as well and a lot of times it's within relationships so you're saying that not reporting
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it is the problem no no no i'm not well it sounds like that's a really big part of the problem it's
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very difficult to report something like that i mean have you been sexually assaulted well i mean the
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problem needs to be fixed right so if the problem is going to be fixed i don't think the answer is
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chastity belts yeah i don't think the answer is that either i think the answer is self-control and
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seeing human beings as things that are worthy of respect not assaulting them i think that's the
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answer well i would just ask for a little bit lower of a percentage because that is even on dating
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pretty insulting like dating apps like the first like thing a lot of guys will say is just something
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lustful well i mean you are yeah you're engaging with hookup culture you're in a position where you're
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putting yourself out there i mean most women that i know on tinder most men that i know on tinder as
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well like are very much on there to engage in hookup culture tinder though hold on the internet is like
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both men and women receive all kinds of like ridiculous stuff on the internet your your complaint
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here has shifted from like an actual crime to a man saying like an inappropriate perhaps sexual
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statement on a dating app like grow some thicker skin yeah guys shouldn't be doing that but like
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a guy's like oh nice titties on a dating app bro grow thicker skin i mean i got my first gun at 18 my
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first pistol i was gifted it because of men because my parents were worried about the hobbies that i have
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and me encountering a man you know doing one of those things whether it was you know going on a dirt
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biking trip and them seeing that i was alone and them you know trying to come after me there or
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whether it was backpacking and somebody you know trying to stalk me like i had happen so you know
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there there is something that's not talked about there i'm not saying that men are innately horrible
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i'm not saying that men you know innately want to sexually assault women and i do think there are a
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lot of great men out there however there's something that's not really spoken about most women i mean i i
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don't know the statistic but a lot of these women have have been assaulted and and if yeah well hold
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on i want to challenge this this assault thing because there's all these surveys that are out
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there rain publishes it these other places publish it and if you actually i i've actually investigated
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these surveys that they do now we can go off like fbi and doj statistics when it comes to violent crime
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because that's what you say well there's they don't report how else can we make a determination
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as to what actually has happened and what doesn't unless we're looking at crime statistics but if
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we're looking at surveys which are dubious at best and these mind you these surveys have significant
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bias and a lot of these surveys one there's self-selection people are like oh i want to answer
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this i don't um if you actually look at the content of it what they include there's like different levels
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of what they'll consider assault okay and in the surveys they'll ask women questions like
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have you ever been cat called i don't think cat calling is appropriate i don't think you have
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been sexually assaulted if a guy said an inappropriate thing to you in the street i don't think men should
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do it i think it's wrong but they include that in the statistics to try to forward a narrative
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and pad the numbers to make it to create this sort of fear dynamic in women that this is something that
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is far more common than it actually is it's i think it's insulting to women who are actually victims
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of awful crimes uh but to include things like cat calling or inappropriate jokes or um a guy i read one of
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these uh if your boyfriend wants to break up with you because you no longer have sex with him that's sexual coercion
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i'm sorry if whether you're a man or a woman if your partner no longer wants to have sex with you
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if you're a woman you can dump the guy if you're a man you can dump the woman that's not a sex crime
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that's not sexual assault that's not sexual coercion that's just a fair expectation to have in a
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relationship but because these feminist institutions want to pad their position they're going to include
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cat calling and um inappropriate jokes and a boyfriend who breaks up with his girlfriend or
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maybe says he wants to break up with her because they're not having sex anymore okay i never argued
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a statistic because i don't know any of the statistics and so what i'm saying here is actual sexual assault
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that's sexual harassment there's a clear line with that even in the work but they include that in the
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sexual assault statistics that's yeah i understand that and you know that's definitely worked then
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because women do have a sense of fear around men like you do not want to be the only woman in a room
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of 20 guys it's it's but if you're gonna throw out a statistic and say no no i'm saying i'm saying all of
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you guys saying your statistic no no no sorry i'm talking to the 50 percenters the 60 percenters and you
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guys if you choose to be out in the wilderness with a bear instead of a man you have to understand like
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you have to look into that camera and say that the men in your lives your family your dads your brothers
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like they are included in that statistic that you think like i know your experiences may have been
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terrible but at the same time you have to include them in there and like most of you guys said you won't
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because that's not an accurate representation of the actual percentage i think you guys have a lot more
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faith in men than you actually think you do but that those those statistics don't reflect that
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at all here how about this though um why don't we just go ahead and grant it like that that uh you
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know maybe the rates are this high is it you or me bro what do you mean 50 it's 50 it's you or me
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i guess like here's the objection here is like you i'll go ahead and grant you guys have all had
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terrible experiences with men maybe even to the point of like a crime you know crimes have been
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committed um and that's terrible and awful and i hope that that person gets his justice or karma or
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whatever um but i guess it's like you did have a bad experience with a man and then now you think all men
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that now i wonder though is this sexist and i want to change change the bear question a little bit so
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let's say there's a white person who either themselves or has known people who have been
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assaulted by a black person they also see news stories and belong to online groups and their tick
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talk algorithm feeds feeds them stories about black on white crime much like as a woman if you engage
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on tick tock with certain stuff that relates to sa the algorithm is going to feed you more of that
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because of their safety concerns they're scared of black people they believe all black people have
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the capacity for violence or assault of some kind would this person be racist
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yes so then if women have a fear of all men because of one two three or hearing other people's
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poor experiences with men would this make you guys sexist towards men that's completely different
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how is it different how is it different if you're if if you you know are not able to see the good in
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any man because of those experiences then that is you being sexist i mean i personally have gone
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through things that i would rather not discuss and i still have a loving boyfriend that i plan to marry
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like i still love my dad very deeply i still have friends that i care very deeply about i have my
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brother that i love you know i i don't go around assuming every man is going to do that but i i do
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have to be hyper vigilant of certain behaviors that could lead to that and having first-hand experience
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it's like you're aware and you start to recognize patterns and you know the sad truth is is that
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there's there's a lot of of men that that they exhibit those patterns and you notice it and you you
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have to take a step back now okay that's fine is it sexist though that to from for me to is it sexist
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against men for me to recognize patterns and basis base my you would rather be in the forest with a
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wild animal i i i've changed my point when you clarified it when you clarified can we hear from
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somebody with a like that actually gave a statistic like the 50 50 percent like what do you think of his
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point that he made like is that is that sexist of women to think that way um wait can you repeat the
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question it it it has to be sexist it has to be sexist there's no way around it well sexist is the
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idea of like hating one gender so just because like we well it could be like you have a bias or like a
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prejudice so like for example if you think all uh if i thought all latino people were criminals would this
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be racist i don't think all men are like bad or anything but no but if you think like all men or
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like a high proportion of men have a propensity towards being criminals aka essayers if essaying or
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whatever wasn't involved if it was just like being able to get murdered that's what's like different
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it's the essaying part that differentiates the racism and the sexism wait i'm sorry in his
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example he was talking about like black people if you're constantly fed this influx of content
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that's making you think that black people commit a lot of crime and so then you become scared of
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black people we asked you do you think that's racist she said yes so then the the alternative
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would it would also be sexist if you have these experiences to automatically be applying
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yours experiences in your situation to the majority of men that would be sexist
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but i'm saying when you and put in the factor of being essayed into it that like just changes the
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whole dynamic i think it's like an exaggerated why does it change the dynamic not necessarily sexist
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because it's it's violence against other people i don't understand though like what
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so is your position like and maybe it is essay worse than murder no but i'm saying that
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women i agree with you that essay is different than murder we both have the same chance of being
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murdered technically but no we don't women have no we don't no no no no hold on no we don't
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men are like men are much more likely to be murdered much more likely but i mean like the act of it like
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if someone came into a room and just like shot like we both have like the same chance of getting shot
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like just theoretically but like men have less chance of being essayed than women sure i think
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that what's your point it aren't men more essayed because of prisons well i mean i don't need to get
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it i mean there's here's the thing if you look at the actual like the definition of grape would actually
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preclude it from ever being considered something that can happen to men oh now if you include like
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made made to penetrate uh then perhaps those numbers even up but then like uh like so men
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on man on man essay where the man can be penetrated if you're super anti-essay you should be outside of
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prison yes it happens more to women what's your point that you guys don't experience or understand
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what it like what we feel because it technically like so you're saying men can't be essayed no like
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a man could be essayed by imagine imagine no and like the whole you guys you said you guys are
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stronger than us do you want to know something that's funny is i get i get all of the exact type
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of cat calls that you guys get from men from men as well in fact like because of my following on
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youtube like i get i get a very very similar amount in a situation of getting essayed you'd have a better
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chance of being able to not because you have the same physical strength as the other man yeah so
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i'm so we're already at a disadvantage i'm happy to just go ahead and grant your position uh essay is
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a bigger concern for women than it is for men what i agree but you do have to the the statement is is it
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sexist to have this like general fear or bias of all men or like this hesitancy towards all men
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so i i definitely felt like i became sexist after what had happened for a little bit i was afraid of
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men but you have to work through it it's just like if you're a little kid right and you don't understand
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depth yet and you walk onto a cliff and you fall right let's say the cliff's not that high right it's
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like five feet and you hurt yourself okay so after that you understand cliff equals fall so you have to
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change that in your brain to understand that man does not mean hurt like man does not mean you know
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danger now that's something that takes a lot of work you're literally training yourself because
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that's a stimulus sure you you've had the stimulus you see the cause and effect and so you create
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a perception based off of that you create a mental set a data set around men based off of that
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so you have to then retrain yourself to trust men again and that's you know if you don't then yes
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you said yes you said yes it does make me i'm trying to i'm trying to like help people understand
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how the other women are thinking the way that they are if you haven't trained yourself to rewire that so
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you're not afraid of men anymore you're still gonna have that fear like like we said earlier when i was
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like okay a man following me or a bear following me i would rather have the bear because i'd get killed
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rather than assaulted and then killed like that is a fear that is in your head but you have to learn
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how to rewire it okay it's do you think it's sexist
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okay what i wanted to comment on is i think that black men being considered quote-unquote
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violent has nothing to do with the race and more of the environment
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or false wait what like going back to the whole like racism part uh-huh and so
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what do you mean the environment like how do you explain it hold on how about this um would you like
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if you guys saw a group of men coming at you and you're walking alone it was late at night or whatever
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would you cross the street yeah okay now do you think that's sexist to do that i feel like in
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order for it to be sexist it has to be irrational i don't think it's irrational to it's like okay if
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you see a group of black women walking towards you i wouldn't really necessarily feel inclined to
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cross the street if i saw a group of black men walking towards me yeah so it has nothing to do with
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race but if a certain population commits a certain percentage of the crime does that make you racist
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for avoiding them more no not in the situation of crossing the street but so but the the scenario
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would just simply be if it if it's not here if it's racist to cross the street if you see a group of
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latino people or black people or whatever racial group if that's if that would be racist to do
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then it would have to also be sexist if you cross the street because you saw a group of men
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regardless it doesn't matter what the race i wouldn't cross the street but depending on
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their survival it's depending on if it's yeah but okay what if somebody did cross the street because
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they saw a group of black people it wouldn't matter what that's right then that can be racist okay
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then it would have to it would have to be sexist to cross the street if you saw a group of men
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okay so if you saw a group of men it could be latino it could be it could be latino it could be
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any race i'm just using okay so at night is say if you saw a group of men at night and you're alone
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will you cross the street or you're just gonna walk like normal like a group of men at night
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mm-hmm you wouldn't think twice would i do it um that's a good question uh huh were you sexist
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she got out there more scared to come across a group of men
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no but i want the thing is is i want you guys honestly if it was a group of white dudes i would not
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care at all because there are specific people that commit a certain amount of the crime and
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there's a certain gender that also commits a certain amount of the crime yeah but even like with that
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statistic there's a certain group of people like most of those people that you're talking about are men
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when it comes to crime everything yeah you're talking about oh how black people commit you're
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talking about black people committing 50 of the crime or something well that's the original yeah
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that's the original thing that we were using if somebody is constantly portrayed to them like hey
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like a certain number or a certain group of people is committing most of the crime and then you're just fed
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that information over and over again just like somebody who gets essayed they're fed over and over
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again like this be wary of men be careful around men like ultimately i don't think that it would make
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you racist i don't think it would make you sexist like in either of those scenarios i don't so you
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don't think it would be racist across the street because there's a group of black people walking
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towards you at night do i think that it would be racist for me to walk across the street no i do not
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think i do have to move things on here to try to just get this uh we got drag drag issues chair three
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you're out here selling overpriced self-esteem issues to the world's weakest men acting like it's some grand
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revolution take a bow you're the mlm scam of modern dating please get back to your mother's basement
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i really don't care so funny these men sitting half of their weekly income like to talk to me like
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please go and spend it on a woman get some coochie stop being mad uh let's see here just a couple
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things here i won't hit everything uh we have uh where did it go uh anisa so the statement is
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acceptable to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans to which you disagreed with
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um yeah like i agreed that it's okay to refuse that you disagreed that it's okay to refuse
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yeah so the statement oh no that's not what i mean oh you got mixed up that's my bad that's
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fine the other way around that's fine i was so we were having a thing a back and forth though
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really quick on the trans thing we'll wrap that up super quick do one two or three more and then
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we're going to wrap the show um so what was your position again on the whole like trans stuff um yeah i
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i used to be transphobic but i think trans women are women wait and she used to be she can you say
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that again yeah i used to be transphobic i used to be like everyone else oh what about the bathrooms
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like no okay then you're not scared of men coming into the women's bathrooms men as in trans women
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yeah this goes back to the bear thing like yeah this is all oh you'd rather pick a bear first of all
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i don't but you'd rather be in a bathroom with a controversial opinion bathrooms being segregated is
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stupid bathrooms shouldn't be segregated bathrooms shouldn't be segregated
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i don't know y'all y'all pee all over the and that's that's that's the main reason why
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bathrooms are segregated because men are disgusted by women's periods and women leave the bathroom
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disgusting i'm not really interested in the bathroom conversation but let's get into like the the the
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like actual crux of the conversation so um our train your position is transgender women are women
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are transgender women female no no okay because female would be sex
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oh okay and i don't really have much to argue with really oh because we're getting into all the
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trump but you you differentiate obviously between sex and gender yeah okay and you're fine though if
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like i i think here you didn't say anything about not straight fermented it no you're fine with uh
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so you think uh a man dating a trans woman is uh that wouldn't be straight no okay all right well
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that would be pansexual okay we didn't talk about plastic surgery at all do you want to touch on that
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i think didn't we we talked like two minutes uh let's see here we got a couple of oops my bad
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um i don't know most of you just agree with everything you guys are all super based uh day uh
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says except for you oh wait maybe you x this out you can be sexist towards men but no i think you can
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be sexist towards men oh okay never mind then uh wow that's what i just said uh samson with so the
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statement women have equal rights to men in the usa you disagree do you want to elaborate on that um
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i thought i we do have equal rights in the usa it's in the workforce i think oh like wage gap oh no i
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don't know i don't know what did i also mecca you disagree women you disagree that women have equal
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rights in the usa oh my god um yeah i disagree because um like like right now like for example
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donald trump he's trying to like uh ban abortion stuff like if it was equal he would like let a woman
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choose what to do with her own body like that's not like for a man to decide so if it was equal
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like it would just be like okay it's her choice you know well i'm not sure though if wouldn't if it was
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equal if he actually wanted to make it equal between men and women wouldn't it require that
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there just be an outright 100 abortion ban because like men can't get abortions they can't compel women
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to get abortions they can't have kids they can't right but like if if we're talking about equality
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typically we're talking about equal rights we're talking about doing a comparison between a right
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that a man has versus a right that a woman doesn't have men have no reproductive rights so the
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actual equality between men and women if that's what we're talking about would dictate that women
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can't get abortions period at all we could say you know if you think if you think it's a right uh
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a women's rights issue i think that's perhaps different but equal rights pertain equal rights to
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men pertains to comparisons between men and women okay then like women's rights then oh but then that's
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a separate conversation i'm just thinking equality between men and women men don't have reproductive
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rights so what could be equal an alternative form of equality if women can have abortions uh if the
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woman wants to keep the child the man can say well i'm going to do uh it's called legal paternal surrender
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i don't have to be responsible i don't have to pay you child support i can just revoke my uh
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uh financial obligations that would be a form of equality at least as close as you can get to
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equality if women have abortion rights would you be in favor of that um of them like yeah so like
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let's say let's say uh abortion rights are protected but in order to get that men which it's not the case
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but men can say well um like let's say there's a one night stand the girl gets pregnant she wants to
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keep it the man didn't want it he's not financially ready he uh doesn't want to be a father he doesn't
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want to have a parental role she wants to keep it though so he's like well okay um do you think men
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should just be able to sit throw their hands up walk away not have any financial or parental
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responsibility to the child you think that's fair i mean they already do but no i mean you could go
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you have a kid right yeah right um does he pay child support no he just helps out
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willingly right yeah yeah but if he stopped helping out you could go to court and force
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him to pay for the child's your kid uh she's almost one year yeah he would have to pay for
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that kid uh it depends on the state anywhere from 18 to 21 years and you could force him to do it and
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he would have no say he can't that i don't want to do that nope the court says you're going to pay it
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if you don't we're going to garnish your wages we're going to take money from your bank accounts
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we're going to take money from any sort of uh liquid cash that you have and if you don't
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don't if you don't we're going to punish you and we're going to send you to jail
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well i think it's case by case but in that case of um the the girl wants to keep it and the guy
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doesn't then yeah i think he has the right to say well i don't want it i don't know well he has the
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right to say that well but like if if you're like what you're saying like if if they were allowed to say
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like to remove like paternity then yeah he has that right no well like i know it's not a real thing but
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like if if it was then yeah you would be you would be in favor of that sort of legal arrangement
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yeah where the guy could just without needing the woman's permission he would just say no you take
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care of it i'm out peace yeah never asked to pay child support that's only fair you know but that's
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not the case right but i guess what i'm saying is that would be about as close as to equality if
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abortions remains legal that's about as close as it would be now if your uh boyfriend partner
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whatever the complicated situation if he just dipped and stopped provide like paying you any money
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would you seek child support no no but you could and you could force him to pay yeah but if he doesn't
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want to i wouldn't force them but if that that's that's his choosing court would force him but when it
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comes to the government the state will eventually send him to jail that's actually taking away fun
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kind of ironically taking away his bodily autonomy well yeah but if i don't like initiate that then they
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can't sure yeah you're right like a woman could choose not to uh i think most women do seek child support
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uh from through the state and also here's the other catch let's say you have no intention of ever um
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um like you you're not going to go to the state but if you ever even just momentarily need to go
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on any sort of uh what's it called like government aid like if you go get need uh like medi-cal or you
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need uh i forgot what it's called uh you need uh not foods what's it called medicaid food stamps yes ebt uh
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food assistance they're gonna it automatically you can't tell them no no no no i want food assistance
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uh i want medi-cal i want like uh government health insurance they're gonna go after him for child
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support regardless of what you want so that's another component there do you think the judicial
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system should be changed to accommodate that to accommodate um men being able to get out of child
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support easily um women are never gonna advocate for that because that's true equality at the end
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of the day women don't care about men's problems yeah but it's complicated it's so complicated i think
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that's fair what you're saying i think that's fair i mean yeah it's fair but it also takes two people
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to like make a kid if if the if the girl wants to keep the kid and the guy doesn't then yeah he doesn't
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like if she like if she if he has expressed to her that i don't want this kid with you i don't
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want to be a parent i'm not ready and she still continues on that's her choice not his so then
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he has the right to say you you i like i agree with like not being able to put him on child support
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well i definitely i disagree i think the man definitely should be forced to pay child support
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i think that he should be held accountable for the fact that he had that kid but at the same time
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i think that he should also have a say oh yeah yeah in what a woman does with her body
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he should have a say he should i believe well you're pro-life right i am pro-life yeah oh yeah
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i agree with that i'm pro-life so oh i forgot to do this really quick just shifting gears a little
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bit those of you who took your makeup off can you hold it up to the camera the wipe so we can see the
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damage hold it up wow okay nice all right wow that that is uh here we're gonna go over here all right
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and then uh okay all right there you go wow good you guys look beautiful just saying slay queen slay
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queens all right i think one or two how about this uh quite a few of you circled there is no gender pay
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gap you disagree with that uh let's see michaela you circled it ebony you circled it
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uh mecca circled it and just you guys uh michaela why don't you tell us uh so you think there's the
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pay gap um wait at the circles for disagree disagree yeah so you if you disagree you think there is a
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gender pay gap oh no i don't think there is oh you think it's just well it depends on the job i guess
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like strippers um y'all girls are killing it in the stripping game there's magic mics or what do you
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call them um like chippendales chippendales i don't think they make as much well they get paid to do
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the show like i'm pretty sure it's like a set pay so or like but like if we if we like all work at
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like chipotle i'm pretty sure we're just gonna get the same amount of pay you know okay michaela your
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position yeah i mean i think the same thing like i wasn't there something that came out about some
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like really famous actors or whatever and the the females were not getting paid oh yeah because the
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male had the lead role no but i think well i think it was like i saw the story about spider-man so it's
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like uh toby mcguire who's the lead spider-man and then kirsten dunst the love interest i forgot
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what's her name and i don't know she's like oh i didn't get paid as much as him well he's spider-man
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yeah exactly yeah toby mcguire do you guys uh you disagree ebony with the wage you think there
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is a wage yeah there definitely is a wage okay what is it i mean um i forgot what the percentage
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was i think women make like 73 percent of every dollar of a man or something um but i mean there's
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studies on it like women obviously make less money generally on average than men and you know these
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studies control for people who work 40 hours a week and stuff like that so yeah there definitely is a
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gender pay cap what do you mean they control for what um like a lot of the points that like
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conservatives like people who say that there isn't like they like to say oh well you know women take
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off more maternity leave and like no like these studies control for that they're not comparing the
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income of people who are not working they're comparing the income of people who are working
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40-hour work weeks they're comparing people who work the same amount of hours and are in the same
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profession in the same field and work the same position and women are getting paid less
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mm-hmm so i mean i've looked into this so you have the uncontrolled and the controlled gender wage gap
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so you're saying that the uncontrolled gender wage gap is actually the controlled gender wage gap because
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the 80 cents 78 cents this is actually what it's doing is it's comparing all men and all women and it's
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not factoring in hours work type hours worked type of job um willingness to relocate the danger that's
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associated with the job there's like dozens of other uh factors that they just totally ignore it's
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just like all women compared to all men when you actually do the control uh it shrinks down to one
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cent yeah and i mean that's that's still is a gap right that adds up over time sure but it could be
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explained uh how about this um i'm trying to think of an example here i do we'll come right back to it
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i just need to let this chat come through it's been here for a sec and we'll get them right back
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wrongful rage donated two hundred dollars chair three we telling you you're trash like your daddy did when
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he traded your wretched joyful for a pack smokes we all knew your worth then we know it now cope harder
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get her queen the crystal awaits you get her yo wrongful rage thank you dude do you want to
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respond to the crystal thing yeah what does the crystal mean i don't i don't use crystals but okay
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so you again just i guess to reiterate you have uncontrolled controlled wage gap so i don't think
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it's really a fair representation to say that women make 78 cents on the dollar you're saying like
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they're trying to put that position forward as if oh exact same career exact same hours worked
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then the man is going to make that much more money that's not that's not what it's doing but they
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want to perpetuate this false narrative like again doesn't account for hours worked the field type of
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job any specialty within the field like for example a public defense a public defender attorney is not
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going to make the same amount of money as like an attorney who does high profile civil litigation
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or mergers and acquisitions right but that's what they're doing they're not considering any of
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these like dozens of different factors that could contribute to somebody making more or less
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a specific company location so they're just lumping everybody together whether you're in san
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francisco or in idaho or bozeman montana where there's like different costs of living there's
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different wages different minimum wages this sort of thing um over time age of retirement
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not factoring in at all um but if like i said if you control for all these factors it shrinks to one
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and then um actually you know it's interesting if you look at specific demographics
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uh it actually so like if you're a single and childless woman uh in a metropolitan area women out earn men
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so like women between ages ages of like 18 and 30 they out earn men or women who never have children
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out earn men and suburban or rural it doesn't happen they're like boy band and uh you could be 100
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times better and they'll kick you out before you take their job sure that might be the case i was
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talking about like metropolitan area so typically like larger larger towns larger cities like if you look
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at los angeles new york san francisco uh single childless women they out earn single childless men
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also even putting that aside asian women out earn white men y'all killing it i mean you're wajian so
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i don't know how that factors in but y'all killing it you guys are killing it bro um but i actually think
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the one percent is due to sexism i think it's due to women's sexism really yeah so
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here here here i'll prove this i'll prove it you women are so sexist you guys cause the wage gap
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now here's why i should maybe i should have asked this first who here wants a guy to pay for the first
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date who here would like a guy to be a provider who here would like to be a stay-at-home wife
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and the guy just pays for everything yeah there you go there look at that enthusiasm so hold on
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couldn't the one percent be explained by a mating and social pressure that women place on men that
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men don't place on women so if like as a guy if i can't get a date if i can't get a relationship if i
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can't get sex if i can't get anything from a woman if i'm not willing to do xyz when it comes to being
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a provider don't you think that's a significant motivating factor like do you think do you think
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having a family and kids and a relationship and sex is like pretty motivating to men yeah sure
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right and i think it's motivating women want that too just to be clear but i don't think
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as women yeah like a guy's not gonna like i can't go on a date and expect the girl to pay for the
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first date but you guys can go on a first date going into it like yeah he's probably gonna pay
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maybe i have to split but like he's gonna pay right maybe you want the man to pay i would say that i mean
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in today's modern age i think women's finances do matter to a degree because most marriages are
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like they're splitting bills like in this economy people can't really live without just off of one
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income i'll so i'll agree with you that the economic and financial reality is that yes most people are
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going to need a two-income household absolutely i agree with you but i don't think i think there's
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a difference in uh biology and there's an evolutionary basis uh even if that's the economic and financial
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reality i still don't think men really like make major assessments to their attraction towards women
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based off of how much money she makes or her career like i think you take a high-powered male attorney
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and he's like wow there's like this really attractive woman who works at starbucks and
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she's great i don't think she's immediately gonna disqualify that girl he might even prefer her but
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like you take a high-powered female attorney who makes two hundred thousand dollars a year i don't
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think she's dating the male barista he's oh he's great he's attractive i'm not marrying that guy she's
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probably wanting to date a guy who's on her level or higher right but why do you think most men usually
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end up marrying women within their tax bracket or their level of education i think that's just the
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sort of reality most people kind of like fall into that general area okay yeah um i don't know i don't
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necessarily think that most like men who really make money and who live like maybe higher profile
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lifestyles would be interested in the girl who i think most men want women who are like used to their
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lifestyle like i feel like if a man is like if he makes a lot of money you're talking about like a
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millionaire or like a high like high-income man getting with a barista like i think most men would
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prefer a woman that's going to make them work harder and would be used to nicer things because
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that's the lifestyle that they're already used to no get get that out get that out what do you mean
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the lifestyle so she's traveled a bunch um sure she's she's already traveled no i want if if you're
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a guy and you make a lot of money right you want to be the portal to the world like oh she's already
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done this before it's just like okay maybe maybe okay the man looks for the most is like emotional
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intelligence and like a woman who inspires him to be a better man it's not like i don't need inspiration
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i just do that shit on my own okay i did like a little social experiment on my own sure i um i was
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on raya for a little bit and i made my occupation uh medical assistant and then i switched it later on
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to just influencer and i felt like i noticed that there was a i had like i don't want to say
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significantly but i definitely had more matches from men after switching it to an influencer that is
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shocking rather than i thought you were gonna say the opposite no because i wanted to see what it
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was like do you do i thought when i when a woman labels herself as an influencer i very much proceed
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with caution okay very much because usually there's an of involved sadly did you change anything else on
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the profile your pictures at all no no no i kept it because so what i thought was i was suspecting that
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like having medical assistant would get me more matches that's what i was thinking so that's why
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i intentionally did the like did the experiment myself how many days were you set to medical
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person or whatever um i don't know it was i mean like they were both you said medical what what was
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the medical assistant medical assistant i mean nurses are kind of that's true that's true when by the
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the way we nurses are like men also medical have like stereo negative stereotypes towards like
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certain women in the health care field it's true because there's like there are certain patterns so
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that that could that could also be playing that could be but i mean also i would wonder like i mean i
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don't know how thorough of it like you would have to like test this multiple you have to do a double
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blind placebo study it's not like there there could be some happenstance like right you know like if a
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coin i don't know how do i explain this it's just like uh yeah i mean raya could have been pushing my
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my account more whatever there's like a bunch of different yeah like to it i i would be curious what
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if you re-downloaded the app right started as influencer and then switched it because i do know
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sometimes with these apps like it might take you a while to get into the algorithm yeah i don't know
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all the details right um honestly i think you could i think you could put yeah uh you could call
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yourself a neat and you'd still get a ton of matches and it's uh not in employment education
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or training so you're just basically living at home with your parents like that's your job title i
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think you're still gonna be killing it so it's like but you think like it'd be the same amount
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of matches as like being an influencer what do you mean like if i if i said influencer if you said
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college student versus influencer i feel like most guys prefer like a college student yeah influencer when
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girls are on social media and they get attention on social media it tends to be a very like negative
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thing i think social media has harmed women a lot more than it's affected men just simply because of
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the way that women process that attention the way that they deal with it and the way that it changes
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them as a person i think that it's different well here why don't we test it out like this
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do you feel like you may be missed out on dating certain men because of your finances um
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i think the more successful i become the the pool gets smaller yeah that makes sense um no
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i agree with what she said okay i don't know so i guess my original point was there's just like this
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massive social and mating pressure on men that's enforced by women even if it's 50 let's say only 50 50
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of women don't care at all the guy could be a broke bum they don't i think it's more but let's
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say it's just 50 of women i think that'd be fair to say would at the very least want a guy to pay for
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the first date i think it goes beyond that i think women would i think 50 of men would want
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a provider i think 50 of women would be uh if possible maybe even i don't know how many would
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want to be stay-at-home uh stay-at-home wives and just have the man work whatever uh it occurred
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whereas i don't think i or any man can go into any encounter with a woman and have this expectation
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she's going to pay for the first date i want to be the stay-at-home dad like if i if i told you guys
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on a first date you're so great i think you're beautiful when we when we have kids i want you
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maybe you take a couple weeks off but then get right back to work and i'll stay at home and take
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care of the kids i want to i want to be the stay-at-home dad you work for 30 years you support
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me you support the family i'll take care of the household i'll do the cooking i'll do the cleaning
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i'll take care of the kids i don't think a lot of women are going to be okay with that
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right am i am i i wouldn't i wouldn't be okay with that yeah is there a single one if i was like a
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super rich woman i would i mean well that's different i i mean i don't i don't think that
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that's like normal but if if he was a better parent than i was i don't think that i would
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be completely against that like if my job was like just sailing around all day i think that
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that would be really fun i mean there could be an argument that's made if you're like a high earning
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woman yeah like i mean i personally wouldn't like prefer this dynamic but and like the
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i don't think high earning women want to well whatever maybe you find that special guy but
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i'd rather both just you know both contributed rather than it feeling like one person is in
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charge of the finances to a point where there's some sort of you know friction in the relationship
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because of that because that does happen a lot you know majority of the fights that married
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couples have are over finances or infidelity or you know how to raise a child so i do think that
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having some sort of income as a woman even if it's small you know you're contributing and so
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that that does alleviate some of those arguments i wonder if andrew would disagree with me saying this
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if he was here but i think that it's the man's job to step up and make sure that that's not an
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issue like i think a lot of agree with i think a lot of guys a lot of guys say oh i can't control
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my earning potential like i i can't do this like it's it's not up to me it's it's fate or something
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i think that's ridiculous i think all men can work harder all men can make more money you just have to
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use your head and you have to work hard you can control your earning a woman that makes him inspired
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to be a better man and like want to step up and i think that that's i mean do you have an issue with
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that because the truth is that men that tend to get married do tend to also make more money and i
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think the motivation there is ultimately because they're driving to provide for the family yeah so
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i don't think there's an issue yeah i do think there's that i mean i guess ultimately it's just
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this whole thing it's not really a metric that men judge women on i think you women are i'm not
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saying women are just going to be completely unmotivated like obviously there's like base level
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survival like oh okay i need to make money so i have a house i can eat i can be comfortable but
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like men have this on top of like the base level survival considerations that both men and women
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have men on top of that have to be like if i want a date if i want a girlfriend if i want a wife
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i gotta make money where and and if i'm not financially attractive economically attractive to women
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then i might i might maybe i can't take her on the date whereas i don't think women are really
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thinking like oh man i wonder is he gonna think i'm broke like guys don't think about that like we're
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not assessing you on your on your money and even a guy who who maybe he's not making enough money
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to the point where like maybe it would be difficult to like have a family given the the what you brought
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up the whole uh uh you need you need two incomes to survive right for most for a lot of people i still
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think man that guy's gonna look at like a beautiful woman who's who's got a good personality who's works at
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the uh who's a barista he's gonna pick her he doesn't care it's it's so low it's such a low
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priority most men aren't going to even trip about it even men who would like their lifestyle would be
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much better if they did have a partner who made more money i agree honestly the wage gap is all your
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fault it's all your fault it's all women's fault because you put this immense massive social and mating
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pressure on us men and we're just more motivated to go out and make money so we can take you to
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mcdonald's or chick-fil-a okay it's chick-fil-a for sure chick-fil-a definitely chick-fil-a all right um
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let's see here uh okay that's pretty much it mating yep mating pressure um
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okay we're gonna do a roast session then we'll wrap the show 10 minutes
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guys any final thoughts from any panelists here any uh final thoughts from any of the panelists
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speak now forever hold your peace final chance you can ask us like oh do you guys you know i think
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men do care about a woman not making money like i feel like when i've had times of um bad luck or
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whatever or even now even working i get can get told i'm worthless or um
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like i i don't know i get degraded if what do you mean the guy a guy has told you
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listen up is this you do not make enough money like uh you don't have a big job right now
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for this and then i got told last week you're 28 years old and you're
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laying in in a bed that's his own insecurities like it's like degraded like degrading that i'm
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worried is this in a romantic context or is this just like well he was upset you were working or
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were you like laying in bed depressed or something take on a big job for this trip
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and then laying in bed yeah sure there's some some soy boys out there i agree and then also like if
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you're smarter work harder because there's also part where i make more money or um i also get degraded for
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that you get degraded if for what uh for nothing like exactly it's you're just chilling but there's
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ego like involved in men's world a lot like they have like hidden um hidden competition with like
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everything they can't just breathe and chill and relax i don't know so i just want to say they do care
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if you work or not because they will the girls at our home they will throw that in their face at least
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once in their life that they do nothing uh it's just what it is well are you bowing though i mean
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that's yeah i was gonna say i do bow i do bow especially after you set a brain wow you another
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conversion there you go i think work ethic is super important in a woman like i very much look for
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a good work ethic but i don't expect them to be financially successful because you know of their work
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ethic yeah the work ethic comes with like good brain there's way more to it that's why i don't
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want to be a stay-at-home mom i like working because i love seeing uh what my brain can do in a day
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um and how it can and like critical tts is 20 guys okay uh no you go ahead oh i was gonna say that i
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think that women should be motivated to work hard yeah women women i think women should be motivated
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to work hard by like through through nurturing because they want to nurture because they want to
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ultimately they want to love and care for like the family if that makes sense i think that's what
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motivates them you know women are motivated by different things than men they are very very different
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men are more motivated statistically by things material possessions women in general are more
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motivated by people by relationships in general and i think that when you switch those up i think that you
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see a very very i think you see a deterioration in quality of life for both men and women because the
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women that become more materialistic they're ultimately not meant to be that way and i think that a lot of
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them suffer from depression and i think a lot of them get depressed because of that because they're
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focusing on a more male uh they're focusing on something that men are more attracted to and vice versa
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yeah it's also good for them to get out of the house because you're just stuck with like these little
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humans all day that can't have real conversations um even when they can talk they're still not real
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and that woman's stuck there all day um with that world and you're the one out there getting to hear
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tons of people's experiences and get to joke around and whatever all right guys we're going to do the
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roast session here we'll do a very brief roast session then wrapping the show so uh guys twenty
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dollar tts get your roasts ready oh this is great toast donated thank you w's in the chat as a man that
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makes 45 000 a year i can tell you i don't give a puppy about a woman's finances
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yo toast that's a really good point i mean 45 000 i think that's like what maybe even slightly below it
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used to be the average income but i think it's slightly below the average income toast what do
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you do for work by the way he doesn't give a i mean i've made different amounts of money throughout
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my life it i never cared never cared how much uh money a woman makes yeah the more money i make
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the less yeah the more money i make the less i care the less i it didn't even matter at the very
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beginning to be honest yep don't care don't care um okay daryl underscores frank castle 512 donated 20
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dollars chair three hates men cause her dad never returned back with the milk imagine working all
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week to give her your check she's barely dressed hashtag strumpet damn okay do you want to you can
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you want to say something back to frank i don't not not to this nothing no nothing you don't want to
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call him a little shrimp dick obviously yeah these other things i saw actually i didn't pull that up
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suffering from three inch penis wow yeah you wrote your little pathetic not not to me but your
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it was on your one of your pages your little pathetic shrimp dick can never handle a superior
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ebony ass like no that's what you're about to put it up that's what you wrote i'm dead no i can't
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pull it up but that's what you were and then you said too bad little dick loser you're not bring that
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fucking energy what's up i i did i didn't bring that energy she's out of the energy now she's out
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of the uh you said you know you're addicted loser come be my little atm good boy what the
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fuck all right um all right there you go sons of liberty donated 19 and 99 cents chair three certified
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narcissist and racist love how racism towards whites is tolerated accepted and excused by this new
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generation no one speaks up because who cares rector donated and you know it's funny how some women
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will plow random strangers for money but a vote to their man will take away their dignity one plus one
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equals three boys we need to go to defcon one these women are both plow thank you love it thank you
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you keep acting that is the chaffer factor
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chair six there is hope for so long as you accept that being 33 means you need realistic expectations
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the dude in chair three however is doomed oh wait that's not a dude big yikes for me boys
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oh please you know i wasn't a dude you're hurt as fuck please go worry about your receding airline
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honestly how pathetic can you be constantly bringing people down
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cause you don't like what you see in the mirror everything does not revolve around race
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pitifu oh my god i pitifu are y'all okay i don't hate white people 12. did you have a response to the
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previous one chair six what did they say it said uh there is hope for for you so long as you accept that
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being 33 means you need realistic expectations never settle queen never settle right i think i have
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realistic expectations yeah you seem reasonable i don't you see yeah i like like a like a humble six
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a humble six okay yeah like i'm not like looking for like a like they don't have to be like six feet or
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okay just like a just a normal normal nice nice guy guy guy i think there's a lot of hope yeah no
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she's reasonable she's reasonable um okay we have toast here toast donated twenty dollars i work 12
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let's go let's 12 hour shifts that's crazy man blue collar blue collar w's in the chat for toast
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oj simpson donated twenty dollars didn't read my super chat blood anyways what house are you brixon
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oh i don't i don't really i don't know harry potter's kind of whatever um aren't there like
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tests that you can take i'm probably slytherin probably i don't know what okay what's everybody's
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fucking harry potter house i guess starting i did i think i'm hufflepuff you're such a hufflepuff
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what is it you don't know gryffindor gryffindor okay i never watch harry potter but i like the sound of
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slytherin so i'd say that one sex actors i did what about you i did the test and i was slytherin
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okay i've never watched terry potter i don't even know what that is probably gryffindor yeah i get
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gryffindor vibes from you all right what about you okay i think gryffindor i don't know you're
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ravenclaw get out of here i think you know what i'm switching i'm ravenclaw for fuck it what about
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you so we're you're gryffindor right yeah i'm gryffindor what about i don't watch what about
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you i was going to say ravenclaw i think they're the ones that study oh there you go yeah what's
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the differences i don't know all right mlk junior senior donated twenty dollars for the sister in
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chair three let me know how bad it stank girl how small is it what's your income what's your credit
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score oh shit all right thank you uh mlk i appreciate it wrongful rage donated
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chair three most men who make 30k have more value than your succubi gash living off simps like a
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ghetto home put a post hoe in a dress and diamonds she's still a post home be wary what donut you riz
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boy otis strutwood donated twenty dollars these strumpets of sex with men on first meetups but hey
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do not be my side of street out of fear what nonsense put yourself in better situations you will find
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better men that's a great point i like that oh really quick guys i'm just gonna do a quick shout
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out if you guys want send a hundred percent of your contribution to the whatever podcast whatever
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pod on venmo and cash app shout out elmer we uh elmer for the five on cash app and shout out to
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andy johnson for the five on venmo thank you so much man appreciate it uh also i'll just read it he
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said all the women who take off makeup i'd say are more attractive now after taking it off wow there you
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go more attractive congratulations um oh wait you want to pop off pop out your fake contact lenses
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on my fake one right now yeah you can so we can see your oh she'll oh she'll actually do it okay
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i don't know if you can see it but oh you're gonna just oh like take it out take it out yeah the
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contact can you or what if i can't put it back in because it like drives out i guess just drive home
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blind yeah are they correct i can put it to the side are they corrective
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are they corrective too here show me to the side
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okay cool wait look into this camera and do it this camera right here i don't know if they'll be
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able to tell but you can tell nice okay cool all right um oh let's do twitch really quick guys go to
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crowd think for the prime mute think for the prime pitay underdog think for the prime really
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appreciate it thank you guys so much for supporting over there on twitch uh we have this one final
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you're totally fried except the girl in chair one she cute and has a good head on her shoulders
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besides chair three put away the muffin top with your belly shirt you ain't britney spears oh my god
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we know you have a pot belly and a receding hairline and a three inch dick come on now
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don't be coming for me i'm still getting money from men motion of the ocean i'm still living a high
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value life okay it's okay you'll sleep at night okay that's cool and uh let's see here guys final call
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twenty dollar tts if you want to get one last one in um uh what's every how about this uh final thing
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what's everybody's what's your type going around the table you can maybe say like one thing physical
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one thing personality wise if you want go ahead um physical i feel like i don't have really a type
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um but like personality wise i feel like i go for guys that are kind of type a because i'm like that
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too type a yeah i would prefer somebody who's physically active just because i feel like it
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means that they take care of themselves okay um in terms of personality i'd say genuine genuine okay
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uh i would say the six six six six figures six foot six pack
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okay um also physically active and ambitious and resilient all right anisa um someone that's
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physically active as well um personality wise just super down to earth and genuine just like you said
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um physically active um physically active definitely broader shoulders than mine
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and um for personality um i tend to be attracted to guys who are well traveled
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i don't have one usually like just tall guys um personality um really ambitious guys to like know
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what they want and um that are just nice funny i just say athletic and virtuous
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um type so oh wait looks yeah uh symmetrically breathable
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and uh personality it's about perspective i want somebody that has the same brain as mine
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same brain as yours yeah so i don't have to you know fight assumptions or irrational thoughts
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yeah i get i get that okay that's valid okay um christian pure blonde also fit brian's gonna find it for me
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that's right that is right uh i could tell you guys what i want but it'll take me like
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like 60 seconds to do it so i'll let i'll let the panel vote if you want to hear it or not
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i feel like i already know what it is isn't it like
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it's one o'clock it's 110 in the morning we're making this happen 100 i think that's a that all
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right wait you you've watched the show you know what it is yeah i watched it it's like you like
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i think you said redheads did you say redheads wow brian okay sure i remember sure i'm more like
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dark hair i'm a dark hair kind of guy you're like you're like the four elevens
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yeah if her height doesn't start with a four she ain't the one
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like if she's five two she's too tall wow no i'm kidding how tall are you no i was about
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i'm six for one i'm kidding though i mean i say there's a joke i'll date a girl i'll date a girl
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who's taller than me i'll date a girl who's six five but i'll date a girl who's short too um
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doesn't matter uh here i'll just read it i wrote it down because there's so much that i'm looking i'm
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looking for so much i'll just read it uh let's see um you know what what i'd like i want to meet a
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great girl date for a few years travel a bunch um i'd like to end up in hawaii that's my kind of
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eventual goal uh have her help me with my mission just have some kids and i'll take care of everything
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kind of would like that dynamic um any any race is fine i'll date any race but i do have i i've mostly
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dated white asian and latina women i just don't think black women you guys don't like me you know
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i can't see with a black woman no it's a you guys don't like me i don't know anyways uh
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you see me with a black woman yeah yeah you're very you're very um like frat i'm very frat yeah
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chad there you go w chad you're part of this
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um let's see i think i oh uh height don't really care um tall short whatever uh oh natural
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preferred natural body so like no fake boobs no bbl no lipo like i'll take a girl you're gonna
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accuse me of being like a terrible criminal i guess like i'll take a girl uh with like flat or a
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cup or whatever over over hold on hear me out over like perfect fake titties sorry mikayla sorry
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bella yeah stop the cap big titties we know you're taking those titties i disagree look fake boobs
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aren't a deal breaker tell like i can tell you can before they've dropped like once they settle but
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no i like uh you know like wrong oh uh bbl i'll take like no ass over a bbl you know yeah don't get me
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wrong look crazy a nice ass is good don't get me wrong but if it's between like no ass and perfect
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even if it's a perfect bbl i'll take the i'll take no ass i don't know i just think it looks kind of
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weird i'll take a little belly fat over lipo belly i don't know the lipo belly looks kind of weird
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and no labioplasty obviously will not stand for it any any outies at the table
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oh okay cool uh anybody else or no okay sorry that was that's a bit awkward um oh uh i'll take
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like no upper lip over like lip fillers whatever okay uh let's see uh what else is there uh
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i i have a no hold on i'm not gonna reveal that um i do like to build my partner up though like
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uh uh i don't know what do you mean by that that's the best thing no just like uh give praise and
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stuff you know oh i want to know what island that's lame build a girlfriend like if this kind of tie
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i'll explain a bit more this ties into like the like fake plastic surgery stuff if my girlfriend came
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to me and asked my opinion on it if she should get plastic surgery i'm kind of i don't like my boobs
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i don't like my butt i don't like my belly i'd be like fuck that shit i like you how you are you're
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beautiful you don't need that shit don't do it so that's kind of like i don't know i just
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build her up whatever uh i like you how you are um let's see what else uh like kind of
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she needs to have done at least three years of cello
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i'll accept two years of violin or one year of piano because i'm a nice guy like that and i'm
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considerate uh any cello players here i'm great i play violin
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i knew it no i'm kidding i'm kidding uh let's see what else
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i caught the flu that's gross um wait a minute but couldn't huge red flag any any wind instruments
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or any instruments actually you know what if they never mind it actually might be a green flag um but
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anyways uh that's what i'm saying all it takes to to like make me happy is if you'll just like
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scratch my back or massage me like that's it and bow and bow and bow that's it that's it i'm you
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know you don't got to be like i don't know i also i think i prefer more introverted women
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i'll date an extrovert but i think i'm more like kind of in on i'm more on the introverted side so i
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can't prefer more like mellow chill introverted women but uh okay there's there's like a million
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other things but i think we'll leave it there um oh yeah okay we'll leave it there yeah that's good
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okay all right let me let the rest of the roast come through sorry i wasted i wasted so
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much oh my god there's a lot okay that's sons of liberty donated 19 and 99 cents to the feminist
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christian who views men very negatively men and women can't be friends any man who calls a girl
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his best friend is either a simp or wants to bang you is that me or her dutch playstation gamer
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donated 20 dollars welcome back brixton just tuned in but ladies what do you think of gamers yay or hell
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no chair three maybe a shirt next time and do next to brian dude how fucking ripped are you
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fck in hell but where's the camera there you go fuck nice uh frank castle the real frank castle
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i cannot play this one but i will say he called you lesbian moana and that's it i'm not reading the
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rest oh wow i'm sorry frank castle it's a little too hard oh shit okay that's it okay all right oh my
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why would i have a feelings about me grand meow xd donated 20 dollars j9 you deserve to have a good
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life a good man will come to you eventually there you go that's super sweet love you too boom
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we got ebony butt donated 20 dollars chair three brexton was right your yams are a and the fact that most
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ladies only date people with the same amount of more money as them is sexist wow they named
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themselves ebony butt i can't smooth donated 20 dollars yeah okay eight inches hung white boy who
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knows his worth so yeah you tripping their coke bottles okay i'm confused what's he saying
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got a few more coming guys and then wrongful rage donated 20 dollars i'm not even gonna bust your
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balls brian about the looting comment to chair three she loots poor men and believes herself of worth
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still making money don't care to real frank castle i can't pull up your next one but this is for chair
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nine uh i won't i can't read the first part i'm sorry i just but he does say pretty sure you can
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find your dream man down by the 7-eleven sleeping in the parking lot do you want to respond to that
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or are you more of like a uh like an am kind of girl like 7-eleven is not okay i don't know uh all right
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we have three more four more vector donated twenty dollars chair three the men of this current
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society have given you permission to rob mentally ill men for the sake of a fetish these men have led
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you to be a slave to your fetish what a bunch of feminine men amen okay i think i would say they're
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men who know they their place i think wow that's wild and yet they're stupid
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if brian's girl ain't burrito shape it's a deal breaker burrito shape
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there's just like guacamole falling out of her sour cream that would not be good no okay
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i'm now embracing misogyny donated twenty dollars and sixty nine cents he's got a point if what chair
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three said and feels is really genuine the lack of unified outrage from the rest of the panel
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slight kudos to those who did nicely speak out i am now leaning to misogyny
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oh my god i don't know do you think maybe it's like
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maybe this you guys just aren't confrontational about this i tried to be i said i didn't you got
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to be like yo you're giving us a bad name bruv come at her i mean she's not giving me a bad name
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30 seconds go at her do it oh my god say these men go off queen against each other hey go off queen
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go off queen no anisa come on i'm not gonna come here like that but it was a white man trying to divide
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the people no i'm just playing hey yo defend us defend us hey i'm switzerland okay switzerland
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yeah she's not taking it aside yeah oh she's neutral but those posts were like
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say it they were just right iconic go off queen you said they were for work but it was really just
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like the pointing out white guy white guy white guy like that was just kind of they really i barely
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tweet about white guys i don't you guys really picked out the white boy tweets like most of those
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tweets said that go off queen what else i'm just saying no that's it oh okay that's it cool
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a milk junior senior donated twenty dollars chair one you sound like minka kelly which is hot
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chair three don't talk to me like that i know it's dank girl i know it's small boy
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i don't know who that is i don't know who that is joshua simpson donated twenty dollars
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that was in regards to the third seat talking about being potbelly and small
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it's i'm the only comeback she had she's definitely a weirdo oh i'm sorry you think the underscore
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that's great never all right uh let's see here we have a super chat from aaron chambers
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he reads shout out from tuscaloosa alabama tuscaloosa always reminds me of that sublime
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song where they're just they're like for like a minute he's just listing off cities you know what
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i mean what's that song april okay whatever uh somebody in chat help me out what's the name of that
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song glad to see the show back even more glad trump is back in office you take a lot of crap
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for the show brian but you are a good man uh thank you aaron really appreciate it man i'm six months
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clean from coke praise jesus and i mean that i'm thankful hashtag roll tide love it aaron that's
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awesome yo aaron congrats on your sobriety man uh thank you for the very kind words very much
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appreciate it you are a uh you're a gentleman and scholar thank you aaron do appreciate it uh w's in
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the chat for aaron there for that uh very generous super chat all right hold on we got one more here
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and then we're gonna wrap it okay yes plow no bow donated twenty dollars yes blank no bow yes
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blank no bow they're plowing the men they're not buying to the men hide your men hide them good
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they aren't buying to us they need to know their place wow poor poor women
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okay there you go uh thank you so much uh for that appreciate it all right uh okay we're gonna wrap up
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the show um i want to do a call to action i'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment
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as an opportunity to give you you and you a call to action would you consider on the whatever podcast
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quitting sex work tonight no after this whole conversation today or just yes no no um yeah
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that's my goal after i finish school right now tonight right now no why is it your goal okay i
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tried to stop all right that's cool i tried my best guys i tried my best um all right uh gg well
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to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you
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gonna do twitch raid really quick uh damien i'm gonna have you pull up monkey news monkey news on
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twitch he is playing world of warcraft classic he is in alterak valley playing pvp uh get him pulled up
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he's he's uh let's see here yeah pull it up it looks like this is just fresh the the anniversary realms
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probably yeah i'm assuming it's the anniversary realms all right guys thank you for watching on
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twitch tell him he needs to when you go uh raid him tell him he needs to he's wait he's playing
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hold on he's doing two alterak valleys at the same time this guy's a giga chad giga chad warrior
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tell him he needs to dance on both his characters tell him he needs to dance slash dance when i send you
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the raid over tell him he needs to slash dance for 10 seconds on each of his characters all right
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uh thank you guys for watching on twitch i'm sending the raid over now
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all right let's see here you guys should uh definitely never play world of warcraft
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because it's addictive i don't play i used to though
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he's very focused he's playing two different clients he's playing two different games okay
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we'll have to uh we're gonna have to leave it at that that i don't know if he's even has his
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audio set up okay we're all good on everything okay guys like the video on your way out oh sevens in
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the chat oh sevens in the chat good night guys good night guys we will see you on sunday good night