Dating Talk #33
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3 hours and 41 minutes
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195.00911
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172
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest on the show, Chase! She's a professional photographer, writer, and social media influencer. We talk about what it's like to be in a relationship with someone you're dating, how to get over a breakup, and why you should never go under the knife.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
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Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
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I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki. She's like somewhere in the back.
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You can kind of, sort of, yeah, there you go. She's hiding in the back.
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A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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First off, boys, can we get some Fs in the chat for YouTube's new absolute dogshit user interface?
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Just a quick, free, easy way to support the show.
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And also, please support my nonprofit, the American Network Against Labia Plasty.
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Basically, we empower women who may feel self-conscious or insecure about their large labia.
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Yeah, so anyways, if you need any convincing to not go under the knife, DM me at whatever on Instagram.
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Anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
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And I'm studying psychology with a minor in philosophy and drug and alcohol counseling.
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I'm a bartender and also studying at the university sociology and education.
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And I'm a freelance graphic designer and audio engineer.
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You know, you know, it's probably, I bet your audience would call them snowflakes that responded
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with a little bit too much like, but what if someone gets hurt?
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And I was like, but what about the funny side of it?
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You can find my social media like Twitter, Pornhub, all that good stuff by visiting allmylinks.com
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And I'm working on getting my real estate license.
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And I'm in my senior year of college at UCSB, studying psychology and philosophy.
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I'm Chase, 27, professional photographer and brand consultant.
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So going around the panel again, current relationship status, longest relationship.
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And my longest relationship was 10 months in high school.
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My longest relationship has been about three years.
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My longest relationship's like 13 years on and off and five years married now.
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My longest relationship was about four years on and off.
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I definitely did the shortest cycle of downloading the app and deleting it of two days.
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And I'm currently on Hinge and The Right Stuff, which is a new dating app.
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Is anybody else on the table, at the table, on The Right Stuff?
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I applied for it, but you have to have somebody, like, invite you in.
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That honestly sounds like a fucking discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen, but, okay.
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Because then when you get let in, you have less competition, you know?
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Well, yeah, but it's kind of like with, in, like, with the ladies' nights.
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It's, like, it depends which state, but in California, it's actually illegal to have ladies' nights.
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It's illegal to, like, offer a discount to women.
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But, I mean, there's definitely, there's definitely been lawsuits where, like, clubs will get sued if you have a ladies' night.
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Where you're offering a discount to just women.
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If you offer, if you offer the discount to both genders, but you call it a ladies' night, that's fine.
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But if you offer the discount to just one gender, then you open your, it's called, like, the Unruh act of fucking, I don't know.
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How many clubs really follow that in this state?
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We had to, like, I remember we had a ladies' night out with, like, male strippers.
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And we were going to have, like, a discount for, like, women's price for their drinks.
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So, I think, honestly, it's probably only because, like, Santa Barbara, you know, how, like, BAC, it's like, they're strict out here.
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They're just trying to get the clubs in trouble.
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And I was recently convinced by my friends to get Hinge, but it's not.
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Well, I just don't really like dating apps because I feel like if you meet someone on it, I just have this.
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Move the microphone, like, that way, a little closer to you.
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It's just, like, I fear, like, I hate meeting someone and then there's no chemistry there.
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So, I just feel like dating apps are just pointless in that way because, like, how do you know if this is someone for you if you've, like, never met them in person?
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But, homie Grace, possibly going to hook it up with the right stuff.
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Well, I meant, like, I don't know that I would, like, come running to me for marriage advice.
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Yeah, so, as the sole person who's married and in a relationship, so.
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Okay, so, of those of you who said you were single, you might be single, but are you currently
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sort of seeing somebody, if you catch my drift, Hensley?
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Wait, so, but how many people are you actually?
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I'm not seeing anybody currently or dating anybody at all.
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So, I mean, don't you have a bunch of suitors hitting on you while you're working?
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I mean, just because they hit on me doesn't mean I'm going to hate them.
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Because I was in a relationship for, like, three years, and then I said I was going to be single,
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and then I got into a two-year-long relationship right after, and I have one year of college left,
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and I want to experience my 20s single and not in a relationship for the past five years, basically.
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Breezy, can we just actually have you pull your chair in just a little bit, just so you're...
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And then, I guess we skip over you because you're married.
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You know, I feel like at five years and one child, and now that, you know, a little bit
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of couples therapy's sprinkled in there and, like, a babysitter every now and again, it's
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I think that's more because we've been together for 13 years.
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Like, when we got together, I was, like, most of these beautiful ladies' ages.
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Like, I was 21, 22, you know, and he was, like, five years older.
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And it's, like, you change a lot between then and being in your 30s.
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And if you become a mom, that changes a lot, too, so.
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Who initiated the request to have couples therapy?
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That's a good point, though, because I think that it could, like, kind of feel sensitive
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What advice would you give to yourself when you first met him?
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I unfortunately lost my mom when I was 16, so when I met him, I kind of had, like, a heap
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of maybe, like, trauma from loss that I didn't really recognize was there.
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And so if I could have gone back and been, like, hey, try and, like, find that trauma
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And, you know, deal with some of that because it'll come in eventually, you know?
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I would have loved to have dealt with that before I met someone that would become my, like,
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And what about right when you guys got married?
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What advice would you give to yourself five years ago?
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Just, like, try and keep shit lively and be real honest with each other and, you know,
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So, you're single, but are you currently seeing somebody?
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And when you say, you said casually dating, what do you mean by that?
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We aren't having, like, those serious conversations, like, boyfriend-girlfriend conversations or anything
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We both know we're both seeing each other, like, casually and stuff like that.
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And is there one that stands out to you in particular that you want to potentially proceed with?
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I don't know if that's, like, a priority to me quite.
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So, I don't know if I'm, like, really looking for anything serious right now.
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I'm, like, still trying to navigate through it and everything.
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I don't know if you're comfortable sharing, but, like, how's the OnlyFans going?
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A lot of people started it during the pandemic.
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I started in the adult industry when I was 18 as a cam girl.
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How much were you making when you were a cam girl?
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Before that, I was working at McDonald's since I was 16.
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I won't say the exact amount, but I'm doing pretty well.
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And at the time, I was doing really good stuff.
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Wait, have you seen any guys since you started this career?
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Um, well, I was in a seven-year relationship that ended in March, so I never did, like,
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I was just curious, like, if he had, like, any thoughts on it.
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Um, I think it took him a little while to get used to, because he knew me before it,
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So you guys were dating, was that even before you started doing cam girl stuff?
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Now, did you share any of your revenue with him?
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Like, was he taking photos for you, or how did that work?
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Yeah, he would be in some of my videos, and I would not give him a penny.
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I mean, he was going to do it anyway, and why would you not want to, like, help your girl
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I mean, I would, I personally wouldn't, like, do that in a relationship, but if I was your
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boyfriend, and if I didn't have the same value system that I have, like, I'd be like,
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I didn't force him, you know, into each their own, so.
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I got out of a serious relationship about a year ago, and since then, I've only been
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I've been very career-focused, so that's been my goal.
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And so, you were on the show last, last show, on Tuesday, and you said that you were waiting
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for marriage to be intimate with a new partner, correct?
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But you, you had been in the past, so you, you said you're not a virgin, right?
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Okay, so, do you think it's going to be difficult to find a partner that's going to be willing
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No, because if we are chasing the same path of, you know, we're pursuing God, which is
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ultimately my goal, and if he's pursuing God, then he's going to have the same feelings towards
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that, and ultimately, I want to find a man of faith who is chasing purity, and in order
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So, it goes, it goes hand-in-hand with two of those.
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And, I mean, Chase is sort of similar to you in this sense, in that, I mean, Chase, if you
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been saving myself for my future wife for the past two years.
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Same thing, not going to sleep with, you know, my future partner before we get married.
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Going to try my absolute best not to, at least.
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Yeah, see, there's people out there that do that.
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Yeah, and, but you're, but you also, Chase, you're not a virgin.
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Honestly, I, I don't really, I mean, it's a sin, and, like, I'm grateful for Jesus's
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I'll regret it if the woman that I want to marry is, like, yeah, I won't, I won't marry
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somebody who's not a virgin, like, then I'll regret it.
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I don't, I mean, I, you know, I haven't slept with a lot of women relative to guys our age.
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You know, my, my number's under, under 10, but, but I'm, I'm, I know my way around a
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woman's body, and in that sense, like, I don't, I don't regret it, you know.
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But, I guess, my whole question with that is, is that, can you really, and I guess this
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is a question to both of you, can you really, since you, since you haven't maintained your
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Like, I, my question is, is what, why wait now?
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Since you've already crossed that threshold, does that make sense?
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Like, why, I'm, I'm not criticizing you guys, but I'm just curious, like, why wait, since
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I'll start, I'm sure she has a different answer, but, like, that's, like, once I got
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serious about my walk with God, like, I realized, first off, by not continuing to fornicate,
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that's something that I could do to honor Him, and second, that's something that I can save
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And I want to save that for my future wife, because, for me, like, when I have sex with a
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woman that I love, like, I form a very deep bond to her, and I don't want to form those
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bonds with women that I'm not going to make my wife, you know what I mean?
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Like, I can, I can feel that within me still from, like, previous partners, and I don't
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Yeah, ultimately, the reason we're doing it is to honor God, and sex outside of marriage,
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Sex in marriage, that is what God intended for it to be.
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And to experience that type of sex with your husband, who you've committed yourself to,
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it is going to be such a strong bond, versus somebody I've just been dating for a few weeks,
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I don't know if I'll be with them for the rest of my life.
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There's just not that intimacy that you're going to find in your marriage, and ultimately,
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that's what I want in my future husband, and for us, when we get married.
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So, until then, I am focusing on my work, myself.
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There's no need to partake in any sexual activity outside of the marriage, and if I'm dating
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somebody, we're going to set boundaries together.
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We're going to talk about it, and we're going to establish, you know, what's okay, what's
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But ultimately, we'll go to God about it, and he'll guide us through it.
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So, I want to, just on this note, and then we will continue along the panel with the
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Has it made you want to wait until marriage, Hensley, to have sex the next time?
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Like, what do you think about waiting until marriage to have sex?
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I mean, I think they could obviously do what they want.
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It's not going to hurt nobody if that's what they want to do, so they can go ahead and do
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I personally don't think it's an intelligent choice, and I would never do that, but if
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there's people out there who think that's what the Lord above wants them to do, then
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I'm not saying that you need to sleep with somebody on the first night, but to some people,
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sex isn't a big part of a relationship, but I personally think that's a big part of connecting
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with somebody, and I'm not going to marry somebody without knowing how that's going to go, because
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That's like, that's a lot of money, that's a lot of paperwork, that's a lot.
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And I don't know, I get maybe waiting a year or a couple years, making sure you're very
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devoted to them, but I don't think it's smart to wait for something that important until
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But it sounds like neither of you is saying that you have waited from the side of being
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I've never really thought too much about it, how that you could maybe come to that conclusion
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It's like a deep connection you form with people.
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No, I mean, I think we all respect your guys' views on it.
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Do you guys find it hard to find a woman or a man that has the same values as you do when
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Ultimately, I'm giving it over to God, and I'm just asking him to bless me with a man
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So it's not like I'm going to go out there and just actively seek him, you know, be under
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I downloaded it for two days, and I was like, I don't like dating apps, delete it.
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Yeah, it's totally challenging, especially here in California.
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Like, very, very few girls feel similarly about all this as I do.
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No, I'm not on any, but like I was telling Grace, I'm on the waiting list for the right
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stuff, because it's for conservatives and stuff.
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And I'm like, as I told Brian, a right-wing extremist, so...
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Like, most girls around here, like, don't share similar beliefs at all, you know?
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So, and it's weird, because it's like a deal-breaker for me, you know, so...
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Well, yeah, obviously, if it's very important to you, yeah.
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So, Nicolette, would you wait until marriage to have with your next partner?
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I feel like I'm about to burst into flames right now.
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Um, you know, surprisingly, I actually grew up in a conservative Christian family.
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Um, I don't necessarily hold myself to their beliefs exactly, but I did go to Sunday school,
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you know, growing up, so I respect that decision.
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Do I hold myself to that same standard or expectation?
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No, but I respect people who do, and I don't judge them.
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Do you feel like growing up in a conservative Christian household kind of made you want to,
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Something, it's something I notice with a lot of people who grew up in households like that.
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Like, if it's, like, really overbearing, they just hate it, and they're like,
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fuck all of that, like, I'm gonna go in the opposite direction when I get older.
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What do you think about our perspective on that?
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Um, which, yeah, I've gotten a lot of, uh, I mean, that's, yeah, my decision.
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It's just something I wanted to do for myself, and it hasn't been easy to do that, but, and I, yeah,
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it was called a prude growing up a lot, honestly, like, the, and, uh, but I grew up to just decide
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that's what I wanted to do, and I have no regrets about that, and, um, I do go on dates,
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and I do, I don't just, like, sit in my house and not, I do get asked out and things like
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that, but I just haven't found what I'm looking for, so...
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Have you had guys try and pressure you out of that conviction?
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Was it ever challenging to say no, or was it easy?
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Let's say you're 39, and it just hasn't happened yet.
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Let's say, or even 40, 40, 45, but you want to have, oh, shit, I was going to say you want to have kids, right?
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Okay, but all the guys, they just, they want to have sex, but they don't want to wait till marriage,
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but you want to have a family and want to have kids.
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Are you willing at that point to potentially bend on your, uh, values in order to secure a family and children,
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or is it just at that point, it's, like, the nunnery for me?
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Or, like, what, what happens in that situation?
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And that, I, that very well likely might not happen, but just, you know, playing.
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And, um, I would say no, I wouldn't bend my values for a guy.
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I've actually ended the, like, the last relationship I was in because of that.
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And it was hard, and I just, yeah, I, I wouldn't.
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I, I actually do want to get married, and I think that being younger, that's actually something that, um, is important to me.
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So, I just, I'm, I have found some good guys that understand, but a lot of times it's, it doesn't get to that point where we have that discussion, so.
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Like, let's say you're 50, and it just doesn't happen.
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Are you just going to be like, all right, I guess I can fuck now.
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I, okay, I actually really believe that, uh, I don't know how I want to say it, but I, I feel like if God puts a desire on your heart to be married, I believe that you will.
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I believe that the right guy's out there for me.
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I just have pretty high standards, and there's some things I will not bend on.
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What, what are your, uh, what are your high standards?
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And I've met a lot of those in San Diego, but we actually differ on some things.
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A lot of military guys, actually, that asked me out, but, uh, we differ on certain things with, that I don't think I can say on this podcast, but, um.
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Let's, um, I'm just pretty, uh, specific on, I want a man that has not taken the jab.
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So, a lot of guys in San Diego, military guys, it's actually really sad.
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Because I'm really attracted to men, like strong men, policemen, um, like military guys.
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So what, what's going through your mind right now?
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Like, I have no idea whether or not they've taken the, uh, the COVID juice, the COVID
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Um, because I feel like that's actually, I didn't honestly think I would have to clarify
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There's issues with, uh, early mortality and there's also issues with fertility that
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That's not what I was asking, but by you saying that, you answered my question.
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You want someone that, that has not, uh, has not been, uh,
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What are the, what are some of the other standards?
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By the way, we do have a girl here who is a farm in pharmaceutical sales.
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So I don't know why I brought just because I sell in pharmaceuticals.
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Does it mean that I know a whole lot about the jab?
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So anyways, we'll, um, we'll move on from the COVID stuff, but, uh, so, so, okay.
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Didn't, you know, that, uh, strong man, like physically strong.
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Like not, but I will say this just because he's a Christian, I've met a lot of Christian
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guys and it doesn't mean that they really follow their faith.
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So that's actually really important to me because I've dated Christian guys and I am
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Like I really want to see your faith, your character and just how you lead your life.
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Um, I've actually met some, it's kind of weird.
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A traditionally masculine Chad basically who follows God.
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Hey, Eric, I think the, the things on mute, the audio, can you just hit the top mute button
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My soundboard must be shout out to the bras in the chat.
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Um, I've been going on dates, but none of them really go past the first date because I don't
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plan on dating again unless he's husband material.
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So you typically know like really quickly whether that's the case or not.
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I don't know if that means though that I'm going to be, cause I don't know where I feel
00:35:43.460
like, well, I don't plan on having sex with anyone until I'm dating them.
00:35:50.260
And I don't plan on dating someone until I see them as husband material.
00:35:53.200
So I couldn't have, so that's a no until like my wedding day.
00:35:57.020
I'm not saving myself for my wedding day, but I'm saving myself for the one that you want
00:36:07.420
So are you wanting to get married young, like fairly soon?
00:36:12.500
Um, I mean, I'll get married whenever it happens.
00:36:19.800
Like I'm not, yeah, it's just whatever's planned for, I guess.
00:36:23.820
So I don't really, it's more like if I meet someone and it's obvious this person is, I'm
00:36:31.800
I need to like have my young days doing something without you in it.
00:36:36.640
Um, because I feel like finding someone who's a good lifelong partner is super rare and I
00:36:41.520
don't plan to have it be like an easy thing to do.
00:36:44.240
So if I do find them, then, um, I don't plan on like losing them for the sake of my youth
00:36:53.900
We're going to do a couple of soup chats and then I'm going to get into my next question.
00:36:56.880
So Eric, actually, before I do soup chats, can you pull up the Twitch just so I can,
00:37:08.140
Just a reminder, guys, if you have Amazon prime, please consider, uh, giving us a, uh, dropping
00:37:14.380
a prime sub and drop us a follow guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.
00:37:42.780
It's either tree stump or like a long tree branch.
00:37:52.920
Um, yeah, I feel like there's a balance here, but, but yeah, yeah.
00:37:59.760
I mean like I probably, if it was really like long and skinny, it might be fucking weird.
00:38:25.480
Um, yeah, I don't like talking about my sex life, but a lot or maybe.
00:38:33.460
I guess we have to frame it for, for us, Chase.
00:38:45.560
No, like any, is any like it's nice and tight and like, like up there.
00:39:02.660
But, um, yeah, you like those beef curtains, bro.
00:39:20.980
I don't think, I don't think either gender should be shamed for the way they're born with
00:39:27.220
Men shouldn't be shamed if they got a small schlong and women shouldn't be shamed if they
00:39:34.900
Can you just paint it for me a little bit more?
00:39:36.560
Like if, like if a naked woman was standing in the room right now, you want me to articulate
00:39:40.460
basically, you want me to articulate what an outie is?
00:39:46.520
I'm a visual learner, so I'm not going to like, I just, I don't know.
00:39:49.920
It feels like I'm just curious to know the full picture here, Brian.
00:39:59.040
So you have the labia minora and the labia majora.
00:40:02.480
I mean, I'm bringing you back to health class in seventh grade here.
00:40:08.920
So basically the lips, the lips, they're, how do you even articulate what an outie is?
00:40:30.500
But like from across the room though, would it be like obvious?
00:40:43.000
So I don't have to necessarily get real close to now.
00:40:45.380
But yeah, no, it is unfortunate that, uh, that women get shamed for it.
00:40:49.620
If they have an outie, women are not shamed for, for innies, but they're shamed for outies.
00:40:57.800
That's what I'm doing with my organization to combat the shaming because like 10 K, holy
00:41:14.000
I think we should go around the table then if we're going to go.
00:42:13.200
I think we should do away with circumcision, to be honest.
00:42:20.640
It's like so weird that it's still around because it originated as the cup.
00:42:25.700
It started out as the covenant between Abraham and God in the Jewish religion.
00:42:29.720
And it was only meant to be between, you know, Jews and God.
00:42:33.300
And somehow it's become this society-wide thing.
00:42:36.580
Maybe even more specifically, just the one guy in God.
00:42:40.600
Well, it was like, with each successive generation, that was how they kept their covenant.
00:42:44.880
But it's like a society-wide thing now for no reason.
00:42:49.200
I mean, I think now it's transitioned from having a religious basis to just something they do in hospitals
00:42:56.280
because it's, like, deemed as, like, clean or, like, which is bullshit, you know?
00:43:07.160
I mean, I am circumcised, but I think as a practice, it should be done away with just
00:43:13.440
because just barely-born boys cannot give their informed consent to being.
00:43:20.660
Dude, you're literally cutting off the tip of your newborn's dick.
00:43:25.280
Right, but then when you get older, aren't you out for a whole month?
00:43:28.900
Like, you can't have, are we allowed to say numbers?
00:43:32.180
Like, when you get older, if you're uncircumcised.
00:43:36.680
Let's say you decide, let's say you're most uncircumcised right now, right?
00:43:43.740
Okay, just to, theoretically, if it were to happen.
00:43:51.720
I suppose it would be worse when you're an adult, but it should probably, there are some
00:43:59.400
instances where there's, like, something wrong with the foreskin or something where it's
00:44:04.800
medically indicated, but that's exceedingly rare, where there's, like, it's painful upon
00:44:22.760
Yeah, something like it's painful if, when they get erections, I don't know.
00:44:25.780
But that's very rare, and it's not a reason why, at child, or at birth, a boy shouldn't
00:44:35.760
But we should move on from the foreskin, but I don't know what the fuck.
00:44:49.440
Let's say you really like a guy, but first time you're hooking up, and he's not really
00:44:55.740
particularly impressive in the bulge department.
00:45:12.300
Is it, if, if I can't, if we're, you know, going at it, and it's not like, it's a, every
00:45:20.200
two seconds, I'm like, why is this thing like this?
00:45:23.500
But if it's like, you can't work with it either, then, yeah, no, it's not going to work, probably.
00:45:30.140
I feel like that's when you're like, are you going to hit this, or what?
00:45:45.120
I think that if they're not impressive, that they should be really good at, like, foreplay.
00:46:23.720
In any case, after we hook up, I asked her for clarification on how to pronounce her name.
00:46:34.060
And needless to say, there was not a second date, because I knew her name.
00:47:14.520
I mean, like I said, by that point, I would have already decided if this is someone I'm like
00:47:18.320
serious about in dating, so, but that's why I don't want to completely wait until marriage
00:47:24.400
because I think an important part of a healthy marriage is good sexual chemistry.
00:47:28.040
So I'll wait until I've decided this is what I want to take seriously and I think is like
00:47:31.560
worth having a relationship with and then I'll see you there.
00:47:35.040
And if there's no sexual chemistry, that is a deal breaker for me.
00:47:37.480
So I probably wouldn't pursue marriage with this person unless, of course, they were just
00:47:45.960
Great guy meets all your non-sexual criteria, but he has a micro penis.
00:48:33.420
Obviously, I married my husband for him, not his penis.
00:48:41.540
Boys, if you have a micro-peen, her DMs are open.
00:48:55.000
It would be a rap because I want a man that's a man.
00:49:05.420
I mean, I do think I can wait and still know what I want, so.
00:49:23.880
No, I will say it's, I think that, and actually, Chase, you've said something about this before,
00:49:29.820
where it's, like, you, even as a Christian, like, we're not perfect.
00:49:34.340
Like, and I haven't been perfect in terms of, like, I've never fully had sex with a guy.
00:49:43.140
Like, there's other things, like, you know, when you're, like, making out, whatever, etc.
00:49:55.540
But wait, okay, you said you want a guy who's a man.
00:50:00.220
Well, can't a guy who has a micro-penis be a, just as much of a man as.
00:50:17.100
Well, I know it's an important thing, like, in your, like, in your marriage.
00:50:21.120
To be honest, like, the kind of guy she's describing sounds like you're stereotypically
00:50:25.820
high testosterone dude, if he's law enforcement, military, anything like that.
00:50:29.560
The, the presence of the hormone testosterone in the male body causes growth of the penis.
00:50:35.640
So, if you have, like, a dude who's, like, a man, like, a man's man, he's probably not
00:50:49.120
I mean, it's plausible that there's a man who has, who's in one of those fields or, and
00:50:57.040
or, who has high testosterone, that also has a micropenis.
00:51:02.700
I would imagine there's some police officer out there somewhere.
00:51:06.860
Maybe he's not, like, on the patrol, but he's doing desk duty.
00:51:15.980
Just creating this, like, very fringe example here.
00:51:20.080
But, okay, anyways, moving on from the, unless, wait.
00:51:24.000
I want to say the answer is I'm with Oosties on I think that God's got it under control.
00:51:36.620
And I do value health really highly in myself and in the future, the person that I want.
00:51:44.200
So hormone health, everything, I think that that's really important for marriage.
00:51:57.580
Ten appearances on the show, Chase, and you haven't asked anyone if they would like to
00:52:11.200
I mean, dude, like, if I have the opportunity, I'll totally ask.
00:52:14.980
I don't want to impose on Brian the process of converting somebody, though.
00:53:00.360
Okay, so I was, like, really trying to move away.
00:53:08.640
I'm conflicted because that's my boy, but also, like, I've had enough talk about the
00:53:18.680
If he's your friend, we're allowed to veto it, though, right?
00:53:28.140
Okay, rich man, small penis, poor man, huge dong.
00:53:49.800
I would probably, well, because my answer earlier, motion of the ocean, so probably rich
00:54:09.000
I'm not looking at the money or the penis, so passing on that.
00:54:23.820
Again, sexual chemistry doesn't have to relate to like penis size, but being able to like
00:54:28.440
provide a good life for our family is, is relative.
00:54:35.400
One other question for the ladies, five, five, geez.
00:54:39.340
Five, five average guy with a 50K salary who you love or a six, five NBA player with an
00:54:48.000
Also, should we, I mean, maybe we should add to this.
00:54:51.820
The NBA player is not going to be faithful to you.
00:54:58.020
I feel like you know every one of our answers before we even answer this.
00:55:13.300
Also, I was only going to say, I don't date men shorter than me and I'm five nine.
00:55:19.000
I would like to, if I may put forth an executive order for the show, no more discussion of dick
00:55:29.220
Well, unless they're going to send a lot of money.
00:55:43.640
I will oblige you on the penis, but if the labia comes up, I'm talking about it.
00:56:04.320
This panel smells like pumpkin spice latte, fresh eggs, and dry.
00:56:12.040
Never seen so many girls proud of being used up.
00:56:14.580
Then we wonder how so many people are passing around diseases.
00:56:39.120
So I saw that, I think it was yesterday or Tuesday's stream.
00:56:45.480
And he said that he wants a virgin over, like, a girl with, like, a higher body count, right?
00:56:56.060
I did the same thing last time, and they hated me.
00:57:01.420
So you're saying if an older guy wants a virgin like her.
00:57:06.040
I mean, you may be born again, but it's a difference.
00:57:11.780
If an older guy wants a virgin like Grace, that makes him a pedophile, that's what you're
00:57:39.940
Yeah, but he wants to date, like, young baddies.
00:57:47.120
Because, well, because she's freaking a part of what Andrew Tate was saying.
00:57:49.920
I'm so fucking tired of hearing this shit on the podcast.
00:57:57.800
He said his ideal was a 19-year-old when he started saying that.
00:58:01.580
If you have a newsflash for you, that's a lot of guys' ideal.
00:58:04.480
We already went over it, but that doesn't make it right.
00:58:07.200
No, it doesn't make it wrong just because you think it's wrong.
00:58:10.660
A lot of girls' ideals is rich guys, but, you know.
00:58:21.060
That's, like, a way to tell the age gap is, like, too extreme.
00:58:24.320
Just because you guys feel like it's wrong doesn't make it wrong.
00:58:27.940
This has been the norm throughout all of human history.
00:58:30.240
Older guys with resources go for younger women.
00:58:35.820
Because they would go for a 14-year-old if they could.
00:58:45.900
If anything, you're projecting right now, not me.
00:58:48.020
I'm just telling you what human nature is like and what it's been like throughout history.
00:58:51.920
And I'm telling you, just because it's human nature is a huge right.
00:58:54.020
Human nature is also, men go out for human nature and don't know how to keep it in their
00:59:00.400
Just because it's human nature doesn't mean it's right.
00:59:01.860
There's plenty of women who can't keep their legs closed either.
00:59:04.740
Kiko, there's plenty of women who can't keep their legs closed.
00:59:08.340
There's plenty of women who can't keep their legs closed.
00:59:11.520
Just because you're, like she said, a born-again virgin doesn't mean just you can have all
00:59:14.560
these new opinions of keeping your legs closed or you guys like.
00:59:18.120
No, you just said, you just said there's plenty of guys who can't keep it in their pants.
00:59:23.240
I didn't want to say rape on here is what I meant.
00:59:24.960
By keeping it in their pants, I was saying they take it on unwilling suspects.
00:59:31.860
That's what I was saying earlier, but I was trying to use a synonym and not just use
00:59:37.820
But I was saying that's why you were saying human nature.
00:59:39.940
There's men who like younger women by human nature.
00:59:42.300
I was also saying it's human nature with how big a percentage of men we have who go out
00:59:50.320
I would guarantee you, I would guarantee you, some of your close friends have probably assaulted
01:00:02.360
But you're not sexually active, so how would you know?
01:00:08.780
I see where you girls are at with what Andrew Tate said and seeing it going through your
01:00:16.300
head and then filtering it through that, seeing him as a pedophile or that's leading to that.
01:00:22.360
I think, though, if you really look at what he's saying and you really watch that, what
01:00:25.560
he's saying is that he doesn't want an older woman who's been with a bunch of partners
01:00:30.260
because he wants to be, I'm not saying, I'm not siding with him completely, but I do think
01:00:35.300
that he has a good point that men do want women who have less baggage.
01:00:43.540
Why would a guy want a woman with less baggage?
01:00:45.960
Because women that's actually married, like, what the fuck?
01:00:47.640
You guys don't even have enough fucking clout to save.
01:00:52.780
That's why, like, it makes sense, though, for people like Chase.
01:00:55.740
People like Chase who would want somebody with a lower body count because he's also now saving
01:00:59.600
So that makes sense because he's saving himself now, so he wants somebody else to save himself.
01:01:05.440
He's going out and probably fucking multiple women a day.
01:01:07.700
So it's a little weird for somebody who wants somebody to be saving themselves when somebody's
01:01:17.400
So you're saying men can go and have multiple partners but not women?
01:01:23.920
Andrew Tate didn't say he wants a woman who's saving herself.
01:01:26.600
He simply said that he wants a girl who has a lower body count and less baggage.
01:01:44.040
You can't accuse men who want legal of-age women.
01:01:48.800
You guys are accusing men who want legal of-age women of being pedophiles.
01:02:00.280
You guys are making it more and more ridiculous.
01:02:01.940
Because it's like, for me, I'm only 22 years old.
01:02:03.600
And when I see most 18-year-old boys, they literally look like children to me.
01:02:06.900
They look like a whole fucking child that I could have birthed myself.
01:02:09.400
When I see a 16-year-old boy, they literally look like infants.
01:02:13.700
If I see a 16-year-old girl, I'm like, they still look like a fucking child.
01:02:21.080
Okay, even an 18-year-old girl, now, at 22 years old, I see most 18-year-olds, I'm like,
01:02:25.640
holy crap, you look like a whole child, like a freaking infant compared to me.
01:02:37.040
Off the bat, I could tell that she was the youngest one in this room.
01:02:43.680
It's not something, even though she's only a year younger than me.
01:02:49.560
And if that's what you're seeking out, it's weird to me.
01:02:53.000
You sound very triggered by it for some reason.
01:03:00.540
But it's the men who try to act like it's not a big issue.
01:03:15.180
You keep making it into pedophilia, but it's not.
01:03:17.920
That's what our whole conversation we brought up.
01:03:21.140
You're trying to shame men for having preferences for younger women by labeling it something that's illegal.
01:03:29.660
Nobody talked about having interest in women under the age of 18.
01:03:33.280
We just said a lot of men prefer younger women.
01:03:44.740
So then you're going to accuse me of being basically a pedophile then.
01:03:50.820
Okay, what I'm accusing you of is being triggered by this and trying to shame men because you know it won't work in your favor someday.
01:03:56.880
Maybe I'm so triggered by it from the time when I was underage and how many older men were trying to get at me.
01:04:09.640
We're talking about adult women here between the age of 18 to 25.
01:04:33.780
Okay, so first off, at 18 years old, you can buy a gun.
01:04:51.780
If you want to attach the teen to it at 18, 19, fine.
01:04:56.520
But this is the thing, is that men are not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.
01:05:02.760
It happens to be the fact, it happens to be the case, that men are attracted to younger women for a myriad of reasons.
01:05:09.340
And when I say younger women, I mean women, adult women from 18 and up, okay, 18, let's say 18 to 25.
01:05:19.860
They ask men of all ages, the peak attractiveness that they see in women is between the age of like 20 and 21.
01:05:27.340
20, sorry, 20 and 22 is what men find the most physically attractive, that age range.
01:05:35.200
It's just, it's kind of funny, like, men, we don't shame women for y'all preferences.
01:05:40.120
You want a guy who's confident, rich, funny, charismatic, all these things, right?
01:05:44.320
But men, we have different preferences than you guys do.
01:05:47.580
What's the age range on the men that you're talking about from this observation?
01:05:50.860
From 18, from 18 to 60, men prefer, yes, men find the most, of the women that they find the most attractive, it's between 20 and 22.
01:06:04.980
He showed a little thing, and it's like, basically, it just stops at 22.
01:06:08.760
Like, they just stop finding women over the age of 22 attractive, no matter how old they get.
01:06:12.200
But it's funny, like, men always get shamed for this.
01:06:14.020
It's always met with some sort of contempt, disdain, shaming language, insecure, I'm not going to use the word.
01:06:20.360
If you wanted a girl with big titties and a fat ass, I would say, that's your preference, dude, go for it.
01:06:26.240
It's a preference, I understand, that I have a problem with.
01:06:32.220
There's an evo-psych reason for why men care about a woman's age, why they prefer younger women.
01:06:41.200
Younger women are more capable for the reason why, okay, let's say you're 35.
01:06:48.540
You're not going to, if you want to have a family, you want to have children, you're not going to pair with a 40-year-old woman.
01:06:53.880
Because the likelihood that she's going to be able to bring a pregnancy to term is minuscule.
01:06:58.780
So as a 40-year-old guy, you're going to be looking younger.
01:07:00.800
You're going to be looking late 20s, 30s, you know, in that age range.
01:07:05.280
You're going to always be looking younger because for biological reality, women at a certain age can no longer bring a child to term.
01:07:13.560
So it's on an intellectual level, like I can think, okay, I'm not going to try to date a 40-year-old if I want to have kids.
01:07:22.980
We find, we look for indicators of youth, and that's what we find attractive.
01:07:26.760
I get that point, and that's, I would say that's a good percentage of the reason why, whatever.
01:07:33.020
But I would think it's unfair to say that's the majority.
01:07:35.980
Because like, where I think of the stereotypical, you know, like huge age gap relationship,
01:07:40.800
it's usually the divorced older man who already has his kids, an ex-wife, who's now getting with the hot young 20-year-old.
01:07:47.820
They don't even have kids 99% of the time, the guys who seek out these young girls.
01:07:51.680
I really, okay, let me not say 99, because I know you guys are going to kill me for that.
01:07:55.740
When I see most of these men with the younger girls, I honestly don't see most of them reproducing with them.
01:08:01.660
Maybe on occasion, like on freaking Modern Family with Sofia and Viagra, but usually they're not having kids, but I get it.
01:08:10.740
Just, so your thing about age gap kind of like just doesn't resonate with me,
01:08:16.080
because my parents have a 22-year age gap, and my dad was a divorced grandfather when he met my mom,
01:08:21.960
who was 22 years younger and engaged, and he broke up her engagement as a divorced grandfather.
01:08:34.240
So I think age gaps are all radically thrown out the window once 30 is involved.
01:08:41.580
Because after, once you hit 30, you've gone through so much of your lifespan, and you're so far away from 18,
01:08:47.920
So do you think women aren't truly adults until they're 30?
01:08:52.220
I never said that, but I think that a lot of women under the age of 25 or closer to that point
01:08:57.420
don't have a lot in common with men who are 50 plus or whatever,
01:09:01.920
and I think they do have more characteristics of just being young.
01:09:06.380
I feel like once you're at 30, like especially my coworkers that I know,
01:09:09.220
once they're at 30, you're just at a more adult place in your life.
01:09:16.080
But most 30-year-olds I know are at the same range as 40-year-olds and plus
01:09:24.480
So like I don't want to be 22 living in my dorm and IV with eight people going on,
01:09:28.480
and then my boyfriend is dropping off his three kids to school
01:09:32.180
or is going to be welcoming his, you know, grandchild or something.
01:09:38.220
I'm not saying you do, but she was just bringing up the age gap.
01:09:40.760
Well, I don't think 30 is different because I think somebody at 30
01:09:43.000
is doing different things than somebody at 22, 23, whatever.
01:09:49.760
I don't think men should be ashamed, though, for having those preferences.
01:09:56.840
and I don't think it's demeaning to women that they do.
01:10:00.180
And the reason being is because it's biologically wired into them.
01:10:05.020
So it's not them doing that to be – it's not – it's just a way –
01:10:14.380
Just to add to her point, it's rooted in biology and evolutionary.
01:10:23.940
So if, like, all these men of all these ages are all going for, like,
01:10:28.520
the same age group, is there any, like, young men that are like,
01:10:37.640
Is there any, like, you know, like, what about the sugar mama situation?
01:10:40.660
Is there, like, the young men that's just like, well, I'm young, dumb,
01:10:44.400
I don't want to get some bitch pregnant because that's a whole thing to deal with.
01:10:47.300
And, like, I could just go for them old baddies, and they got their own money,
01:10:59.660
I mean, maybe she wanted sex, but maybe, you know, financially.
01:11:02.740
Well, no, yeah, and she didn't have children, so she was, you know,
01:11:10.660
But, I mean, it certainly wasn't a sugar mama situation.
01:11:17.740
I was just thinking it's, like, if everyone's going for the same young girls,
01:11:24.040
Okay, if you ask men, like, what they find attractive, they will say that.
01:11:27.300
But most men probably, like, they're not going to have a,
01:11:31.100
either be physically attractive enough or be of a certain status level
01:11:34.500
to be able to, you know, if you're 35 but you're kind of a bum,
01:11:49.900
Age is just a number to me, so it doesn't really matter.
01:11:52.700
At the end of the day, though, like, if I was a 22-year-old
01:11:54.800
and a 40-year-old was pursuing me, I would think that's a little creepy.
01:11:59.860
If I was, like, a 22-year-old and a 40-year-old was pursuing me,
01:12:06.480
I would find it strange because I'd be, like, what do I have to offer you?
01:12:17.800
I know it's very triggering, but it's the truth.
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Obviously, assuming she has a personality, those are the benefits that comes with it.
01:12:26.540
She can walk over and then suck that big old cock.
01:12:31.980
But one, like, just to clarify, because I know I sound like the frickin' grim reaper
01:12:36.720
I would say the exact same thing to a 40-year-old woman pursuing an 18-year-old boy.
01:12:46.280
So it's not like I would be like, oh, yeah, you know, old woman wants to pursue a little...
01:12:51.560
But if both parties are consensual, why do you want to control what other people do?
01:12:53.820
Because I have been in the situation now where since I...
01:12:59.320
When I was in my youth, that's all I experienced, especially because I was heavier then.
01:13:15.760
And I work with children, and I work with high school kids.
01:13:21.380
So that's why I am so passionate about this, because maybe I just see it more often than you
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would as just a normal person, but it just happens so often in front of me as to why
01:13:31.800
I am a little bit more suspicious when I do see those men who want the younger ones, because
01:13:35.720
I have people who are supposed to be my employees, and I'm their manager, and they're 16 years
01:13:39.220
old crying to me because their 30-year-old boyfriend broke up with them.
01:13:51.380
I mean, men of any age who find women between the age of 18 to 25 physically attractive,
01:14:07.220
It's a very small amount of what we're talking about here, so it's not even worth having this
01:14:15.280
If you want to, like, you're using this very extreme example to make your argument.
01:14:22.680
Well, you're trying to say men who are attracted to women, say, between the age of 18 to 22,
01:14:35.020
Okay, we can have a discussion of, man, why don't men want to date women their own age?
01:14:40.440
We can have that discussion, but to frame men who are attracted to women who are, say,
01:14:45.500
between the age of 18 to 23 as something more than just men who are attracted to beautiful
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I don't think it's a fair argument to be making.
01:14:59.300
And that's like, and I'm personally, my last few people I've dated have been 30, and I'm
01:15:09.100
Why are we even fucking out in this conversation, then?
01:15:11.180
Because I'm at the edge of what you guys are saying, what the gap you're saying, I'm
01:15:16.980
My problem is, I know it's only four years, but as a human, you develop...
01:15:26.540
I do, but I'm saying I've developed so much as a person from 18 to 22.
01:15:30.060
I have grown so much from 18 to 22 that, yes, I think it is weird for somebody 30 who
01:15:37.460
Why are you attracted to somebody you can't even take out to have a drink?
01:15:48.780
Oh, I was just going to say, so I'm 29, and I was just going to say from experience, it's
01:15:53.420
interesting, because guys that are my age and a little bit older typically will go for
01:15:59.640
And then I actually have a lot of younger men that are 27, between the ages of like 25
01:16:03.280
to 27, maybe 28, reaching me out and trying to hit me up constantly.
01:16:11.540
So I'm just saying, like, from personal experience, it's interesting just to kind of see that.
01:16:21.440
Once you're over 21, and like, I think it all changes at 21, honestly.
01:16:29.480
Because, like, if you're out, and you're at a club, or you're partying, whatever, and
01:16:33.320
like, obviously, if they're there illegally, that's a different story.
01:16:36.640
But, like, if you're able to meet somebody, I don't, the first thing I ask, I don't ask
01:16:42.240
But, like, if I'm meeting a man or a girl at a club or a bar, it just happens to be
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that most of the time they're around the ages of 27 to 29.
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They would, but most of the time, they don't look at me, and they're like, oh, yeah, I
01:16:55.360
Most of the time, they think I'm 25, or older, or whatever.
01:17:01.680
Let's just watch the Tate video to just drive a nail into the.
01:17:10.140
Because of the Tate video, or because of your bladder?
01:17:13.340
Let me do some super chats before we pull that up.
01:17:17.780
Well, that was a heated conversation, gentlemen.
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Honestly, I think the barber kind of scuffed it up, but whatever.
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But a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised.
01:18:05.320
What's the one about not wanting to date quarrelsome women?
01:18:08.700
Or it's better to live in a desert than it is with a quarrelsome wife.
01:18:17.180
A wife who gives you a lot of shit, argues a lot, has a bad temper.
01:18:35.220
Do you prefer guys with or without facial hair?
01:18:50.820
Um, I don't know if I have a preference, but probably do prefer if I do have one.
01:19:07.120
So, you're 22, but you were saying, like, that you saw me and you could, like, tell I
01:19:11.900
was the youngest because of, like, my realisms, but I'm, like, one year younger than you.
01:19:16.480
So, like, I don't know, like, low-key came off condescending.
01:19:19.360
Do you want to, like, clarify why, like, a 12-month difference?
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If I had to guess your age, I would have guessed you were, like, 18 or 19, personally.
01:19:39.080
Before you even open your mouth, it's not how you speak.
01:19:43.800
Like, you just, you can see somebody and have a conceptualization of their age, and I would
01:19:47.880
just say that you look the youngest out of anyone here.
01:20:05.660
As long as it's a compliment and not, it was nothing to do with-
01:20:10.140
Why did none of you say I was the youngest-looking one here?
01:20:14.980
It was like when I, you were sitting on the couch, right?
01:20:17.000
When I walked in, sorry, on the couch, you just looked the youngest to me.
01:20:28.480
Women saying men wanting young for women is rooted in, is like, rooted in that, is like
01:20:33.640
saying women wanting successful men is rooted in being broke 30 foes.
01:20:41.200
Y'all just mad the clock ticking and you're not pure.
01:20:46.700
Men, men wanting younger women is the equivalent of young women wanting, men wanting younger
01:20:52.200
women is the equivalent, and for clarification, legally of age women, is the equivalent of younger
01:21:07.440
Right, but in a situation like that, wouldn't you say that the men would usually pursue
01:21:10.340
the girl first before the girl would pursue an older man for those reasons?
01:21:15.640
In almost all situations, men pursue the woman.
01:21:20.260
Well, I'm just talking about the, what am I trying to say?
01:21:24.300
The situation at hand where you're saying that men dating younger women is the same thing
01:21:32.080
She's saying, it's just, it's, I feel like this doesn't need to be explained.
01:21:36.960
Like when, when I was a freshman, hold on, hold on, hold your thought.
01:21:46.560
When I was a freshman in college, there were so many girls that wanted older guys, guys
01:21:51.540
that were seniors, guys that were out of college.
01:21:54.380
I knew girls that knew guys in their early thirties.
01:21:57.840
And these guys were like adults and they were studs.
01:22:01.980
Just like I don't hold it against those 31 year old dudes for wanting these freshman
01:22:10.440
What I'm saying though, is like, it's the same situation is if that, what I'm trying
01:22:14.740
to say is you're calling these men weirdos for pursuing the younger girls.
01:22:29.100
We should just move on because this is like, we're like beating a dead horse about it.
01:22:38.200
And by the way, we have the, uh, you have joined the picture frame gang, $10 soup chat.
01:22:44.080
So what you're saying is 18 to 20 year olds shouldn't be having sex at all since they
01:22:56.760
Andrew Tate asked the panel if they want to date a guy with Bugatti, a four time world
01:23:00.920
kickboxing champion, a multimillionaire, tall, handsome, someone who protects and provides
01:23:17.360
He gives that short man energy that like, I thought he was like under 6'8".
01:23:36.560
It was like a derogatory stance, I guess you could say.
01:23:40.980
I'll let it slide as long as you're okay with fat girl energy.
01:23:48.160
I've done my due diligence in dating and me and shorter than me.
01:23:54.080
If, if short guy energy is okay, then fat girl energy has to be okay too.
01:24:04.160
She's saying a girl is a huge bitch is kind of the equivalent of calling a guy short
01:24:17.280
Don't you feel like huge bitch is a better equivalent of short guy energy?
01:24:53.540
Literally men from the ages of 18 to 64 prefer women in the range of 18 to 24.
01:24:59.520
For women, they typically prefer a man four to seven years older.
01:25:19.780
Like, I've gone out with guys that are 30 and it's my maturity and I'm not like hyping
01:25:28.520
I don't identify with 22 year olds, 23 year olds.
01:25:37.520
The CEO at the company I work at thought I was 27 for a long time.
01:25:42.260
And I actually don't mind that because that's just.
01:25:52.900
Probably, probably 27, 28 because I think that he has to get his life together.
01:26:00.360
I have dated younger guys and I have a huge theory on that if a guy doesn't have his, if
01:26:06.860
he's not through school and doesn't have a career and hasn't been through those really
01:26:10.040
difficult struggles at like to find himself and find what he wants to do around those ages,
01:26:17.740
And I actually wouldn't want to be with somebody that hasn't gone through that on his own before
01:26:22.760
we partner up because then I know that I can be his focus.
01:26:26.380
Otherwise, he needs to focus on himself and his career and building himself during that
01:26:39.720
But that successful guys from the ages of like 26 to 29 are like the biggest fuck boys, which
01:26:57.920
Now, can I ask a quick question about, you mentioned earlier that you converted a few
01:27:07.620
I need to continue with the super chats, but we can touch on that later.
01:27:19.200
You three FOs would cheer a woman on that's doing OnlyFans and stripping at 18.
01:27:22.460
But if a man wants it all the sudden, she is a clueless damsel in distress that's going
01:27:40.500
In that case, maybe, I guess, just to put a little back of it.
01:27:42.640
I mean, these girls would rather see young women at 18 sell their bodies to guys online
01:27:48.520
than get into a caring and loving monogamous relationship with an older guy.
01:27:54.140
This is such a clear sign of how far our society has fallen.
01:27:59.340
You didn't ask any of us if that's how we actually feel.
01:28:01.940
I literally just listened to everybody freak out for 10 minutes about how dudes are pedophiles
01:28:12.080
I can't remember if you were, but Hensley's checked out at this.
01:28:16.000
Not to say that I'm pro-pedophilia, for fuck's sake.
01:28:20.500
Let's just, for the rest of the show, take that word out of the conversation.
01:28:23.500
Well, I'm also in an age gap marriage, like not as large as over there in 22 years, but
01:28:34.280
But these girls would literally rather see an 18-year-old sell her body online than be
01:28:52.560
You said it was pedophilia when the guy wanted it, but now you're saying it's up to the 18-year-old.
01:28:58.660
And I didn't say that, because that's my opinion.
01:29:01.740
I know, but I said the same thing, in my opinion, is I understand she's getting her money, doing
01:29:08.700
I think the legal age should be raised to 21, personally.
01:29:15.240
Do you think the adult age for women should also be 21?
01:29:18.640
I think the adult age for everybody should be 21, since considering at 18, the only thing
01:29:25.200
Then, yeah, if you can't drink legally until you're 21, if you can't even rent a car until
01:29:31.200
you're 25, when your brain's fully developed, no, I don't think seven years earlier, you
01:29:35.260
should be considered a legal adult, personally.
01:29:41.440
We got God the Almighty based father with the 10 Canadian dollars.
01:29:56.400
I'm about to rain fire on the right side of the table.
01:30:05.480
Goddamn, you guys are, shut up, shut up, shut up.
01:30:07.680
I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
01:30:10.820
You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution
01:30:36.940
Women can like older men, but older men can't like younger women?
01:30:45.320
When women are doing it for OnlyFans, they're not doing it for pleasure most of the time
01:30:50.380
So they don't do it because they like older men.
01:30:52.460
They do it because they like older men's money.
01:30:54.160
If any young women are watching, please do not model your lifestyle after her.
01:31:06.500
But if you ever want to get married, there's a lot of young girls out there who want to
01:31:09.760
If pictures of yourself doing sexual things are all over the internet, your husband and your
01:31:25.600
I mean, given the option between a mom who has porn on the internet versus one who doesn't
01:31:30.600
have porn on the internet, I would prefer if all of my friends couldn't see my mom fucking
01:31:41.900
And that just means I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and I'm not a fucking
01:31:53.700
You should know better than anyone that we are sinners.
01:32:03.860
What makes you think that you're better than everyone else?
01:32:11.140
You can have your beliefs, but don't attack other people that's fucked up.
01:32:15.080
This side of the table was saying that it's a great lifestyle decision.
01:32:18.560
You said it's a great lifestyle decision at 18 to do that.
01:32:31.200
There's impressionable young girls out there that are watching this.
01:32:35.000
There's, there was a girl who was on this show that got into OnlyFans.
01:32:42.340
It's the kind of thing that a lot of women are going to regret when they're older.
01:32:50.800
I'm, I'm a sinner that should be damned to hell.
01:32:56.820
But if you want to talk about, you know, I, I'm just as good of a Christian too.
01:33:00.900
Jesus said, if you truly love me, you will work to keep my commands.
01:33:03.700
And he also said, he also said, go, he also said, go and sin no more.
01:33:09.160
And we're called to be models and examples for other people.
01:33:13.720
Do you think you're modeling Christ by doing OnlyFans?
01:33:22.180
He said, he said, he said, he said, the kind that doesn't follow the Bible.
01:33:27.580
I mean, I'm sure that you're like following, like going against some of the rules.
01:33:31.360
I fuck up and I, I, I, and I, and I, and I repent of it and I repent of it.
01:33:38.020
So you should pray and ask God to make you not so much of a judgmental asshole.
01:33:43.240
I, I'm, I'm simply saying young women shouldn't follow your example because they'll regret it.
01:33:48.280
Young women should do whatever the, whatever they want.
01:33:52.360
I think he should, I think he should caveat it.
01:33:57.600
Maybe like young girls who are looking for like a specific type of family life and future,
01:34:05.780
Fuck it, live your lives and make a fucking mistake.
01:34:14.200
Once you're fucking married, you can be pious as shit.
01:34:22.560
Like, I'm the only one that's actually married here.
01:34:24.440
Like, I, I, like half the time when y'all have opinions about this, it's just so fucking
01:34:32.300
That's rude compared to what you've been saying?
01:34:34.700
I mean, half the shit that you say is rude too.
01:34:42.420
And, and they're, your guys' kid's friend finds all of your porn pictures online and
01:34:47.920
everybody starts sharing it in the classroom and they start teasing your kid and making
01:34:52.220
There's literally been kids that have fucking killed themselves because of this.
01:34:56.020
And then let's imagine that someone comes into their classroom and shoots the kid because
01:34:58.440
that happens in this country every day all the time too.
01:35:03.660
There's kids that kill themselves over this, okay?
01:35:13.640
I'm triggered because nobody can control their fucking tongue.
01:35:16.660
Just, just, please, exercise some self-control.
01:35:19.360
Not even my husband can control his tongue, baby.
01:35:34.660
If your kid is in middle school or whatever and they're getting made fun of you,
01:35:38.060
by all the other kids who found your pornography online, at that point in time, are you going
01:35:42.460
Are you going to be like, no, I'm fucking happy that I made that decision?
01:35:46.360
Why should the mother who is a consenting adult who chose to do OnlyFans be crucified for
01:35:53.500
Shouldn't it be the one, the kids who are bullying the child who led them to commit?
01:36:08.560
But you're completely avoiding responsibility here.
01:36:09.040
I'm just saying it's a point about like selflessness.
01:36:12.260
Like I'm like a young girl who has the idea of like doing an OnlyFans, getting such
01:36:16.360
easy money by taking one naked photo of myself across my mind.
01:36:35.300
I didn't mean that in a way as in like that OnlyFans is like an easy profession.
01:36:46.500
But weren't you just saying like, yeah, it's better than McDonald's.
01:36:49.800
The idea popped in my mind of like doing like sex work over my service job.
01:36:53.840
I hope not because we're already oversaturated industry as it is.
01:37:06.180
And it's because it's a route of like of like self.
01:37:08.680
I'm just trying to explain like a reason like why I wouldn't.
01:37:17.320
I'm just explaining why I wouldn't and I'm glad I decided not to and would recommend this
01:37:23.320
to like and would recommend just girls giving it a second chance because at the end of it,
01:37:27.320
I mean, it's not even, I don't even have to think that long term.
01:37:30.520
But is me getting 500 or whatever, 5,000 more dollars a month worth like shame to my loved
01:37:37.840
Like I don't, I don't, personally like it's out of, it's out of like not wanting to be
01:37:42.680
selfish that that's where that comes from me from.
01:37:44.980
If my, you know, I'm, my, my actions have consequences.
01:37:49.040
At the end of the day, I don't have to look, think long term about my future kids.
01:37:53.900
I'm not going to put them through that because I want to get 5k more.
01:37:56.800
I can do more with my mind as well to make money that don't just involve like photos of
01:38:02.240
So I'm just going to choose that route because I'm not hurting anyone that like I could if
01:38:05.440
I was like my family, if I was like doing stuff like that.
01:38:12.600
That came across shady, but in ways that don't add harm to my close family members, which it
01:38:18.780
So it's just an act of like selflessness to like not.
01:38:21.500
If you're choosing to live your life for other people, I'm choosing to live mine for myself
01:38:30.880
We're going to move on because I just need to get through all these super chats here.
01:38:49.640
If you start dating a woman, she's your perfect woman.
01:38:53.180
But when you find out she's infertile, would you still want to marry her?
01:38:57.100
So, I mean, for me, me personally, I'm not super pressed to have children.
01:39:07.120
But for me, it would not be a deal breaker necessarily.
01:39:11.960
But I think a lot of men probably, but Chase, I'll let you come in on this one.
01:39:27.740
And she'd have to be pretty amazing for me to compromise on that.
01:39:42.560
The things that make women attractive to men, she's born with.
01:39:45.000
The things that make men attractive to women, he has to work for.
01:39:50.080
Why would a man at his peak date a woman past her peak?
01:39:57.080
There's a saying, and I mean, I don't know where I stand on this, but Chase, your thoughts.
01:40:12.740
Please walk out because you're adding nothing but bad arguments and your emotions.
01:40:16.440
I think this is probably from like 20 or 30 minutes ago.
01:40:30.180
It's better to live alone in the corner of an attic than with a quarrelsome wife in a lovely home.
01:40:37.320
Yeah, I think that's another one I was going for.
01:40:40.200
There's a few verses about quarrelsome women in the Bible.
01:40:42.900
There's one that's like better to live on the corner of a roof or something like that.
01:40:47.540
I guess it depends on the, what's it called, the translation or whatever.
01:40:53.820
And by three UFOs, I mean OnlyFans and Neck Tattoo and Sons of Anarchy.
01:41:01.600
Neck Tattoo makes Hensley look like the Virgin Mary.
01:41:41.660
Well, more just to say, I don't think you should say you're waiting for marriage if you
01:41:47.240
I mean, to clarify, I've tried clarifying this.
01:41:50.220
I've begun to save myself for marriage moving forward, starting two years ago.
01:41:58.460
So are you like, did you recently just start your faith?
01:42:02.680
Is that why you're being like a born again virgin?
01:42:06.060
I came to Jesus when I was 19, but I wasn't like going to church or anything.
01:42:11.180
And I had two girlfriends between the ages of 19 and 25.
01:42:16.520
And I started to save myself when I was 25 because I realized how deep of a connection
01:42:25.240
And I also realized we weren't going to marry one another.
01:42:27.160
And I knew the emotional imprint I was going to leave on her was not something I wanted
01:42:35.980
So I was like, all right, I can't keep doing this.
01:42:39.160
Like, it's obvious to me, like, if a girl is really in love with you as a guy and you're
01:42:45.100
having sex with her, like, she becomes, like, so, like, deeply attached to you.
01:42:49.580
And I could tell I was, like, sinning against her by continuing to have sex with her.
01:42:58.700
I've been Christian since I was 19, so for eight years now.
01:43:01.800
And then once you practiced more into your faith, that's when you came to that.
01:43:05.060
Yeah, it's been, like, a progressive process of, like, okay, fuck, that's a sin.
01:43:17.560
I went to Catholic school for 12 years, so I learned Catholic and Christian is different,
01:43:25.440
I wanted to ask you about that tattoo for a long time.
01:43:27.720
I'm like, you're talking a lot of shit with a man with a big sin on his hand right there.
01:43:38.220
I think just with us being Christians, I do want to say we are commanded not to judge.
01:43:45.080
So, like, literally the Bible says, let, like, God's going to judge, so don't judge them.
01:43:51.320
So, I actually don't think Chase is judging, and I'm not judging, and we're not.
01:43:58.260
I don't think he's judging you guys, personally.
01:44:07.180
Because that's a correlation to her being a bad person.
01:44:19.860
That's just part of what we're called to do as Christians.
01:44:22.360
That's fine, but I just, I don't think you should say that.
01:44:25.580
Actually, sorry, before we move on, for the Christians out there.
01:44:29.540
I consider myself Christian, so what do you guys have to say about that?
01:44:32.560
I did want to, I, well, Chase, do you want to talk first on that?
01:44:40.500
I mean, if you're, I think Andrew Tate said something like this, if the book says X and
01:44:56.620
Okay, I, and I grew up an atheist, like, and was a radical atheist, genuinely thought
01:45:03.340
there was, like, no way I would ever be religious.
01:45:08.500
I'm an interesting, interesting topic of conversation.
01:45:12.500
It's just, I gotta get through the soup chats, because we're already really behind.
01:45:17.820
All right, Davon Jackson, by the way, I have the, I have the BBC here for you, man.
01:45:23.680
Okay, Davon Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
01:45:25.760
The one calling man, P-word, for being in legal relationships with adults, telling someone
01:45:29.440
not to be judgmental, because she decided to sell her body on the internet.
01:45:47.600
He's saying you guys are giving us shit for being judgmental.
01:45:54.360
You and you, you guys were calling us, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:45:58.020
It was a comment about how people at the table, people at the table were calling us judgmental.
01:46:04.080
People at the table were calling us judgmental for stating our opinions, our opinions about
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You know, you guys were accusing us of being judgmental.
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So meanwhile, you guys fucking accused dudes who want to date legally adult women.
01:46:33.220
It's like I'm speaking English and you're not hearing it.
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And I wish I didn't understand what you were saying.
01:46:46.240
There's probably multiple girls who have blue eyes, so I have no idea.
01:47:07.900
The girl on the far left is the only normal girl on here.
01:47:12.360
She would make more money than all of you, but luckily she has self-respect.
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I've been married for fucking five years and in a relationship for 13.
01:48:14.300
So actually, when you get married, that's what you've legally become is a come bucket.
01:48:18.720
So I just want you all to know that you're all just seeking out your legal come bucketage.
01:48:36.340
Michael Trilstein, thank you for the big $1 soup chat.
01:48:41.720
And by the way, guys, if we can get, we're very close to unlocking our next emoji.
01:48:46.400
So if we can get, like, I think we need seven more memberships if anyone's down to gift or
01:49:02.460
I will say this is a much more interesting conversation tonight than it was on Tuesday.
01:49:16.740
We got one more here, and this is Hensley's favorite question.
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Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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Yeah, because I haven't been able to bag a bitch yet, so whatever.
01:50:50.980
The one over here that's the most taken is just so dirty.
01:51:07.280
Davon Jackson, thank you for becoming a member man.
01:51:12.880
I think we just need 6 more people to become members,
01:51:17.400
So, and we'll give you a shout-out during the stream.
01:51:19.820
So, you said you wanted to come in really quick,
01:51:26.420
because Chase mentioned that he had converted some people
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and I guess for anybody else that is looking for that.
01:51:38.320
or to find a Christian woman that's already Christian?
01:51:57.140
It was like, hey, these are all the reasons I believe
01:52:11.740
I would have to have a really strong relationship with her Tatum
01:52:20.060
there's a lot of prophecy coming true around us right now.
01:52:23.960
we'll have to be really strong in our faith in the days ahead,
01:52:26.600
and I want, I do want a wife who has a super strong faith
01:52:30.220
and won't be, like, wishy-washy if shit gets hard.
01:52:38.540
No, no, no, but I'm saying, like, if somebody converted,
01:52:40.720
would there be, like, something in the back of your head
01:52:42.080
that would say, oh, maybe she only converted for me?
01:52:44.580
And, like, does she actually believe in this faith?
01:52:46.260
Does she actually believe in these values and everything?
01:52:51.100
she's obviously going to want to do whatever she can
01:52:55.500
That would not be enough for me to want to marry her, you know?
01:53:03.740
So basically what you're saying is you're pursuing somebody
01:53:09.960
Yeah, Tatum, I want a wife that will literally die
01:53:17.760
or somebody who's, like, I'm just following Jesus
01:53:22.220
I have also tried that, like, last dated a guy that wasn't.
01:53:37.860
and I really believe this, with the feminine masculine.
01:53:46.560
And I just could, some people can get past that.
01:53:49.120
My brother actually is a lot less, like, he would be, like,
01:53:56.780
And for me to have to direct that, and then I was, like, okay,
01:53:59.920
I am marriage-minded, and I do not want to be the one
01:54:14.920
But what I saw from the relationship was that his fruits did not match up,
01:54:19.220
and I felt like he was actually pulling me away from God.
01:54:21.700
So for him to be more on the immature spiritual level, I can't do that.
01:54:27.880
I want my husband to be strong and to be pulling me towards God.
01:54:31.400
Or if that, I'd be pulling, like, we'd be going together.
01:54:37.660
God's up here at the triangle, and if we're on the sides and I'm moving up,
01:54:43.300
But if we're both moving towards God, that's ultimately what I want.
01:54:53.160
So, obviously, you know, the word tells us that men are called to be the spiritual leaders
01:55:00.320
Are you guys also excited to, like, submit to a husband who's a strong leader in the
01:55:13.940
Because, and this, I do want to say, has changed for me.
01:55:30.320
My mom is actually, and this is a little off what you're saying with faith, but I think
01:55:34.840
My mom is a stay-at-home mom, and I used to think that that was not a real job, and that
01:55:39.780
her helping, just helping at the home with my dad working wasn't a real job.
01:55:45.160
And then I realized later on when my dad told me how much his life has been helped.
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And he said he could not do that and support our family without my mom's support, and that
01:55:58.920
he gives everything to my mom, the fact that she would do that and get kids to school and
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So I used to think, I really used to have an edge to me about submission, that that was
01:56:09.580
And now I think it's actually really a good thing, because I think that men are supposed
01:56:14.240
to lead, and I think women are supposed to submit in a way that benefits both of them.
01:56:22.380
Because they're both contributing in huge ways.
01:56:24.500
Why is it submitting versus just calling it reciprocity, just out of curiosity?
01:56:28.440
I would say it's submission because the man, and for me, I'll just say this for what I
01:56:36.680
I want him to be the one that puts the effort in with making sure that we are provided for.
01:56:42.240
And I think that women should not just not do anything.
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But I don't think that, I don't want to be an equal with my husband.
01:56:47.880
I don't want us to both be, I think we're equal in our value, but I don't want us to
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I actually would rather be under him and have him lead.
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I also want to say, I don't think that's weak at all.
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Yeah, for, I mean, submission, I look to my family for an example.
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And when I see my parents, there were a lot of times where my mom did not submit to my
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And in those situations, that's where things kind of went a little bit wrong.
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So I can see that as an example of where it could create some problems.
01:57:34.300
I'm genuinely trying to ask when you're saying the word submission what you mean.
01:57:38.660
Because my version of what that means, I don't think is aligning with what you guys are saying.
01:57:49.380
So I consider it willful cooperation, but some people have a different sense of it.
01:57:55.300
Yeah, I mean, I would say for me, what I would expect from a wife in terms of submission is
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her recognizing I have the ultimate, ultimately I'm responsible for my family being safe,
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provided for, protected, properly led through this world, all that kind of stuff, right?
01:58:10.400
Like, at the end of the day, if my family, you know, gets fucking killed or wrecked, or
01:58:15.600
if they're properly provided for, it all comes down on me, right?
01:58:19.400
And so I expect my wife to defer to me when it comes to important decisions about where
01:58:25.880
should we live, where should we send the kids to for school, what church should we go
01:58:33.140
You know, if my wife wants me to do one job, but I'm like, no, I think this is the important
01:58:37.220
I'll expect my wife to submit to me in that and to trust, to trust in my leadership.
01:58:41.200
So your ultimate say supersedes hers at the end of the day for the well-being of the family?
01:58:47.620
Yeah, it's essentially trust, trust in leadership, but it's not, that doesn't mean that I'm going
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to look at my wife like somebody to just boss around.
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I don't care about what she has to say when you're like, which job, but the ultimate come
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And also keep in mind that the man, when you are submitting to him, it's not just any man.
01:59:16.560
So it's like, these are like literally from the Bible.
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For us, like us, non-Christian people, it's like a father while you're married, basically.
01:59:29.160
No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen,
01:59:33.200
guys, before you, before you take my head off, before you take my head off, literally just
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explain it in like, cause I've noticed obviously this half of the table is Christian, this half
01:59:45.140
And basically what you're, basically what you're describing to people like us when it comes
01:59:52.360
Somebody who you, who provides, does everything and you go to with your, I would go to my dad,
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for example, maybe I want to go here with that and then listen to him in the end because
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So for us in lame terms, obviously it's much more to it, but in the end of the way, it's
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like, yeah, like, like not, maybe not dad, but a parent in a sense, like.
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I'm not trying to bring it back to the creepy shit.
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This goes back completely to the entertain situation, which we already discussed.
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But I think, I, I just want to say though, as a woman, because I think that I see a lot
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of women that get really triggered at the word submit, like submission.
02:00:32.260
I think that's what I was trying to ask because I really didn't understand, like from the,
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Because culture tells us that we should not submit.
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Everything in culture, in college courses, in literally everything in media, in popular
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culture tells us that as women, not only that we can do exactly the same thing as men, but
02:00:53.400
that we should be better than them and that they should be taken out of society.
02:00:58.360
See like, and that that's not the problem with that is that that makes us then look
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as men as bad and not good and that we shouldn't submit or we should be the ones that lead.
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And I don't think that that's, I actually totally believe I can do, I got a college
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I pay my own full rent on my apartment in San Diego.
02:01:20.420
I do all of that, but I don't think I do what men do.
02:01:26.860
Men actually made the rights that you guys all have.
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I just want to put that out there because I think that women hate on men so much and
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And there's no right that men have that I don't have.
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So all that I'm saying is that, and I just want to say one more thing.
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Submission sounds, it gets a bad rap because it sounds like, oh, we're letting the guy
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I think a good way to clarify it is not submit.
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It's like submit to a good man that you think is like deserving of doing that.
02:02:09.180
So if you're with your partner and your partner happens to be the type of man that's abusing
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Yeah, it's not submit to bad men or any men or all men.
02:02:21.620
It's submit to good men because you have already decided that you trust their leadership.
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I feel like that's where like I sometimes like, cause we didn't, honestly, I think he
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should have had us all go around since this is basically obviously what the debate is
02:02:34.000
about and say either our political stance or our religion or whatever, cause it's obviously
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But like, I don't even call myself, you would think from my opinions this whole time that
02:02:43.700
You would think I'm the biggest liberal, snowflake, whatever.
02:02:50.680
I have conservative views and I have liberal views.
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Just like we're, if it would help my household, if my household would be the most prime, if
02:02:57.580
I stayed home and my husband went to work or wife or whatever, then I would do that.
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And that's why I do understand the conservative standpoint or of like, you know, cause it's
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where we, we block is because you guys, not you guys.
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Well, a lot of conservatives believe men and women are already equal in society and they
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haven't done anything, but there's certain responsibilities of a man where I believe
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So why make my life harder by not making it just follow what it already is?
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Changing my life isn't going to change the course of America, right?
02:03:31.340
So if it's easier in these ages for my husband to go work and me stay home with the kids and
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cook and clean and him bring in the income, I'm not going to go against that because my family
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going against it isn't going to change the patriarchy of America.
02:03:54.480
I will say that the biggest submission, in my opinion, is a man dedicating his whole life
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I think that's like the ways that like a man submits, like he will, like it's equal.
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In a Christian idea, like the man is submitting to God.
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And so by submitting to God, that means you're submitting to him.
02:04:15.300
Yeah, whatever you call it, like in a non-Christian way as well.
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But just he should be, if you want to call it that, like submitting.
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I think you guys are being too technical because I think that we agree with each other.
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Honestly, I think at the end of the day, it's everyone is at a common understanding that
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both parties should just want the most well-being for their family.
02:04:36.600
And so if you come from a perspective where that means a certain lifestyle, like a stay-at-home
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mom, is what's most conducive to the benefits of your family, people are in agreement is
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I don't think, like, I know that the show like pretty much forces people to like want
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to like get into like debates, but honestly, it's all semantics half the time, I really
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I think, and the reason why is just because there's, I don't think it's semantics just
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because there's so many women that want, you know, they want to work, they want to earn
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money, they want 50% of the say in what happens in the household and stuff.
02:05:07.820
And that's very different from this idea of submission, right?
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And I think just to clarify it, to make it like super clear, it's just trusting in your
02:05:17.000
But you're still saying that there's like a two-way conversation happening under the roof.
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Like that's more important than just being like, well, since I'm the man, like, I'm
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just going to go ahead and make a decision without saying anything.
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I feel like that's, that's what people imagine it to be.
02:05:30.220
But what I want is a really smart wife who I can, you know, partner with to build an empire.
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I want to consult with her and be like, Hey babe, what do you think about these things?
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And then ultimately the final decision, if her and I differ, I expect her to defer to me.
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And that's why I said it's kind of like a father or either mother relationship, because
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I would hope my, like my parents, we would have conversations, but at the end of the
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day, what they said, go, because they're putting a roof over my head.
02:05:57.380
You said your mom didn't always submit to your dad when you were growing up and you
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I noticed the same thing when I was growing up, like there were, especially around financial
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My mom would make these like super risky financial moves that could have paid off big.
02:06:10.100
And my dad would be like, babe, like pump the brakes.
02:06:13.340
So, and she would go through on them and we fucking got burned so hard in 2008.
02:06:19.600
And that was, that was an example when my mom should have submitted to my dad, but she
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Cause like my household, my dad was my only sole provider since 2007.
02:06:30.520
My mom hasn't worked and my parents aren't together.
02:06:34.840
And she was supposed to leave out of the house in 2018, but hasn't yet.
02:06:37.960
So I've seen raised, being raised in a household where two people who weren't in love.
02:06:42.920
And even though my dad was bringing home all the money, paying all the bills, and my mom
02:06:48.440
I understand how that doesn't work and why that dynamic needs to be changed.
02:06:51.980
But I also understand why it just, you need to have such a good open communication from
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the beginning because it was regardless, it was two people who shouldn't have had a child
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together, had a child and they wasted their lives trying to raise me.
02:07:05.080
And that's why I know like the whole waiting until marriage, I'm sure we don't feel like
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it was a waste, whatever, but like, it's hard to look at like my, like, I honestly, and
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I know, I hate to say this, cause I feel like you would just love to hear this, but like
02:07:19.600
I was like, I feel like my dad just gave away his whole life to raise me because my mom
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has basically ruined his life since I was born and they're not together.
02:07:30.220
He, we've had the conversation before, but like, that's why I'm just so strong about my
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opinions of like making sure, like, that's why I, I personally don't see myself having
02:07:39.140
sex with some waiting until marriage because I feel like that could be such a big deal breaker.
02:07:43.740
And people think marriage is like the end all be all, but like, even though my parents have
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never been married, just them having one child together change the direction of the last
02:07:53.600
20, you know, five plus years of their life, that's very different.
02:07:57.160
So that's why they have that, like, I don't know, like, it's just hard for me to be like,
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I want to get involved with somebody without knowing everything.
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Cause when you say till death do us part, that's a big agreement.
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Cause they're technically legal partners because they've lived together for so long.
02:08:15.000
Can I share with you part of the reason why I refuse to have sex with a woman before I
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get married to her is because, so I work at a gym, at a gym near here and I've met like
02:08:40.760
I've met like, I've met like four dudes at our gym who like each of them got a divorce
02:08:46.240
and I asked them like, okay, so where did it go wrong?
02:08:50.280
Once they got in their forties, you know, the, the, the fizzle, the, the physical spark, it just
02:08:55.240
kind of diminished and they realized there wasn't much there in the relationship.
02:08:59.660
And what I realized from, from listening to each of these dudes is I think a lot of people
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get married to people that, you know, they're having sex with, they're, they're releasing
02:09:09.580
They think that they're in love because when you're having, hold on, hold your thought.
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I'm just saying, cause I'm making a, I want him to know so he doesn't move on.
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When, when, you know, two people are having sex, releasing all those hormones and stuff,
02:09:19.220
it's real easy to fall in love with somebody and it's, it's super easy.
02:09:23.700
But as the decades go on and you lose that physical attraction, things change.
02:09:30.460
So I was just going to say, but it also can be safe for, say the same for the opposite
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So I grew up Mormon and a lot of that culture, a lot of that religion is based around getting
02:09:41.560
married young and having a family basically right away.
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So a majority of people though, that I went to high school with did get married right
02:09:51.740
out of high school and majority of them are already divorced because they only got married
02:10:07.260
Now I know that LDS and Christianity are too, I mean, they're kind of off of the same branch,
02:10:13.700
But what I'm just saying is it could be the same, it could be said the same for the opposite
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That's exactly what I wanted to bring up earlier too.
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Like, and this is for all of you guys over here.
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Do you guys feel like then like in your community, since you're waiting for marriage to have sex
02:10:30.260
and all those things, I feel like that, like it's Christians or Mormons or whatever that
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I see all getting married at 18 to like 20 or whatever.
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And it's like, it's hard to look at the outside of person, like an outsider and just be like,
02:10:42.320
I feel like they're only getting married so they could fuck each other.
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Like, I feel like I really feel like they're all super common.
02:10:48.960
And I feel like as Christians, you can also tell when people I've seen, I know.
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I was just going to say, a guy that I know that's Mormon got married really young.
02:11:10.040
Like, there are things that I see that are wrong with that.
02:11:13.180
And like, I do think that there is some of that.
02:11:15.180
And here's, I just want to say a point on that.
02:11:17.520
I'm not waiting to have sex until I'm married because God says, okay, because God says or
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I'm not like this perfect in the, like, no sin, you know, I don't know.
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Like, what I'm saying is that the reason I'm doing that is actually more about the self-respect
02:11:47.180
that I have for myself and my future husband than anything else.
02:11:53.360
It's not like, yes, I, I, and I do want to honor God.
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I mean, my main thing is I do want to honor God, but the reason for that is because I
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have seen the other side and I actually think that God's design for me and my body and my
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future husband and giving that to him is, is it going to be a blessing?
02:12:13.600
I don't see it as like, oh my gosh, this is so annoying.
02:12:15.860
Like, I have to follow these rules and oh my gosh, if I break them, God's going to keep
02:12:21.860
And I used to, I did used to when I grew up Baptist.
02:12:24.900
And then when I became non-denominational Christian and I, I switched, my mindset switched a lot
02:12:30.680
to, oh, God is setting these, these, these rules up not to take away my fun, but to protect
02:12:42.160
And honestly, I'm so glad I don't, I have, I don't have regrets and I'm really happy with
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So well said, no, very well said, very, very well said, but it's actually funny that you
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brought that up, that you felt like you, it was kind of forced onto you basically this
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I do have to move on from this guys because we got to get caught up on some super chats
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Dave on Jackson, just another thing for becoming a member, man.
02:13:08.500
Thank you for the Canadian, was this you on your cell phone while you were, did the Prozac
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I just didn't come here for a religious debate.
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I appreciate it, but not really what I signed up for.
02:13:40.580
All of this has been happening in the context of dating, relationships.
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Just going to write it off as a religious talk.
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The three of those don't realize that their decisions completely take you out of running
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of being a wife of a quality man in the future.
02:14:08.860
Everyone obviously has their different things they want from a woman or whatever.
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How many of these dudes that so badly want to make you their wife would you actually consider
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My ex, obviously, to be honest, not even to be conceited or anything, every single
02:14:36.080
one of my exes I've had, they're deeply in love and still years later trying to be
02:14:42.500
That's why none of these comments or anything hurt me.
02:14:44.840
Some person might hate all my tattoos and think it's the ugliest thing I've heard into
02:14:49.180
my life, while the next person thinks it's the best looking thing they've ever seen.
02:14:53.500
That's why I've noticed, I've learned that everyone has their different preferences and
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And it's like, okay, us 304s versus the Christians, whatever.
02:15:04.540
Can you, I'm asking for chat, like, can you hook it up with some bath water or what?
02:15:13.060
Do you actually legitimately sell your bath water?
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Like right now, you know what I was supposed to do before I got here?
02:15:25.720
Yeah, I've sold in, um, I've sold, what have you sold?
02:15:29.800
The craziest thing I've sold was gummy gummies.
02:15:53.580
Well, I don't know what the gummies are, but like, I,
02:15:55.720
like, I, you just like masturbate over some gummies.
02:16:22.520
Are you selling, are you legit selling bathwater?
02:16:24.200
There was a site called, it was, well, they've taken it down many times, but it was like
02:16:29.420
Like, I've never done, like, sex work, like, my body or anything like that, but I've sold
02:16:37.880
So, I guess, like, technically, like, I'm a sex worker, but, like.
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The only reason why I don't count it is those men who I sold that to, they don't even know
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So, but yeah, right before here, bro, this podcast has been so extreme.
02:16:58.080
One second, we're talking about Christian marriage.
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The next, it's gummy gummies in bathwater, dude.
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Right before I got here, I made the easiest $100 of my life.
02:17:05.720
This kid and IV, right, I matched with this dude on Hinge, and he's like, my roommate just
02:17:10.220
offered to pay you $100 and you could kick him in the balls.
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So, before I got here, I kicked this little kid in the balls for $100.
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Did he make any faces or did he just take it like a man?
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No, I felt bad because he was like, more and more money.
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What is the most either extravagant date a guy has ever taken you on or has a guy ever
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given you like a, paid you a lot of money to do something?
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I was going to say that's two totally different questions.
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Okay, what's, because, okay, you work at the club.
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Maybe you've had offers from guys, sugar daddies, whatever.
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Some of you maybe haven't had sugar daddies, but what is the most amount of money a guy
02:18:42.900
Listen, you asked for us to stop talking about religion.
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I'm asking if a guy asked you to kick him in the nuts.
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Do you ever get dudes who like ask you to like step on their genitals?
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How down bad do you have to be to ask a woman to do that?
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Actually, this is good because it shows a part of my thing.
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But basically, it was a, it was a, I don't know, long time customer or whatever.
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And it was a care package of like different used underwear, shoes, and socks.
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But it was basically what he wanted in specific was the youngest I could find.
02:20:00.260
So, you're going to like yell at guys who are like 50 attracted, guys just being attracted
02:20:05.760
But would you not just say you are like engaging and pedophilic?
02:20:08.680
Yeah, they're still going to be, he's going to ask the next bitch.
02:20:17.800
No, don't shame guys for being attracted to 21 year olds.
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Like, no matter their age, and engage in like pedophilic fantasies.
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You fucking indulged his pedophilic fantasies and then you're shaming them for doing that.
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I could respect it if you want to shame 50 year olds for being a 20 year old, but don't
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Okay, so, you know, let me talk, you know, let me talk, you know, let me talk.
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So, you're telling me that guy wouldn't have just gone from girl to girl to girl asking
02:20:54.900
He's going to just make it from another fucking bitch.
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Sorry, I was broke and poor and want fucking $6,000.
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You can, but you're criticizing, oh, there's all these fucking men out here that want this
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You're criticizing all these men out here who want this shit, but you're supporting me.
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I do forget, did you forget, did you forget he wanted my shoes from sixth grade?
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He's just going to go fucking do it from anybody else.
02:21:28.620
You sound like the people who go out and they're like-
02:21:36.000
You guys sound like the people who go out to eat and they're like, oh, I'm not going
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to tip because I don't believe in tipping culture and how people need to get paid
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So, if somebody wants to be a pedophile on my dime, then fucking so fucking be it.
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So, hopefully he doesn't grab some random bitch off the street.
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Or is him going to assault you a random person?
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Chat, let us know what you think about this right now.
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I would not send my actual, like, underage underwear.
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That's, like, a little, like, that's, like, crossing the line to me.
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But there's something as age play, which is different.
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That is different than sending your actual, like, underage underwear.
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If somebody was like, if you can send me your old beat-up Nikes in the back of your closet
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You said it's wrong that men are attracted to that.
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But once they're willing to pay money, you're down.
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In my morality complex, it would be wrong of me if maybe, if I had that request from
02:23:08.200
somebody and I went and I stole my little cousin's shoes or my little sister's shoes
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If I want to sell my own belongings, it's just like people like Bella Define or whatever
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her fucking name is, those other ones who take advantage of the men who are weirdos
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She's taking advantage of all the guys who are so fucking weird in this world that she's
02:23:30.640
Her, her, me or her stopping doing what we're doing isn't going to make the pedophiles
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It's just going to make them go on maybe an unsuspecting child or somebody else.
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At least maybe now since I gave him my shoes, he's going to have to go fucking harass an
02:23:48.600
I can't wait until you're going to come back to my fucking job.
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So, so, so hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
02:23:56.740
Because you have been coming in for me all fucking night and saying snarky ass marks to me.
02:24:04.780
Well, I'm defending her because you're, you've attacked her twice tonight.
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You said that she was the least mature, most young seeming person in the room.
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But she's trying to call me out two, three times now.
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I think you are, like, one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.
02:24:34.900
I'm just saying this out of debate for the podcast.
02:24:38.280
That's fine, but it's the way you say certain things.
02:24:40.100
Because I can tell when people are saying things out of debate for the podcast.
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Because I've been holding my tongue this whole fucking time.
02:24:47.340
Well, I guess I can't go to backstage more, guys.
02:25:01.520
Earlier tonight, you were making legitimate grievances that there's a lot of guys out there.
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I want to talk about how much this guy's spending on me.
02:25:18.440
You're making legitimate grievances that there's a lot of guys out there who are preying on underage women.
02:25:26.120
You don't think that by giving in to the perverted desires of a guy like this, you're feeding the industry?
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Anything, I feel like I'm getting them away from attacking and preying on unsuspecting younger children.
02:25:43.100
At least now they can get, because usually, honestly, because I swear to God, like not on anything, like literally straight up.
02:25:50.780
When I was back, I don't really do this anymore, but when I was back into that, I only had really regulars.
02:25:55.580
I would discuss, have conversations with these regulars a lot, and some of them would open up to me about things I wish I wouldn't hear.
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And a lot of them were on these sites and doing these things because their urges were so strong that they'd rather do it this way than actually doing something illegal or very wrong, if you know what I'm trying to say right now.
02:26:16.120
Like, if you know what I'm trying to say, like, no, let me ask, I got you, girl, girls, here's, maybe, let me ask you, no, no, no, no.
02:26:25.340
I don't want to talk about this shit, it's fucking weird, dude.
02:26:27.180
No, let me ask it in a different way than what Chase asked really quick, because I just want to know something.
02:26:34.540
So, instead of giving, or instead of, you know, fulfilling this man's man's fantasy.
02:26:39.580
No, Chase, listen to this question, tell me what you think.
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Why didn't, why didn't you take the opportunity to potentially turn him into the cops?
02:26:49.380
Because you could have called the cops about that.
02:26:52.020
But, no, no, no, no, hang on, but you're saying that you did it because you think.
02:26:55.660
To not make him do it to somebody else, but if you would have turned it into the cops, that would have put a, this is a great point, this is a great point.
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Right, and I swear, I feel like I don't think I'm fucking bullshitting, but I swear to God I'm not.
02:27:05.500
But for a few months, I was actually a sting operation, like I was part of a sting operation.
02:27:09.640
I swear to God, I swear to God, I used to be used at the point.
02:27:14.500
No, I swear to God, I feel like if you just live in San Francisco, you have more opportunities.
02:27:17.440
I don't know, but I used to be used, I used to be used as a girl, used in sting operations, like I would pretend to be underage.
02:27:27.600
If I would go to the police and be like, oh, this man wants to buy my shoes from as young as possible, they can't do anything about that.
02:27:34.880
If I would say like, oh, this man wants to buy my shoes from a sixth grade, they can't do anything about that.
02:27:39.940
Unless there's proof of them actually touching or harassing an underage child, absolutely nothing will be done.
02:27:46.680
So I'd rather give in to their urges as an adult woman who could do that rather than them going and doing that to an actual sixth grader.
02:27:56.040
So, yes, there was a few, but the thing is, they're smarter than you seem.
02:28:05.840
Sometimes you'll see it online, and I feel like it's so easy just to get them, because there are some idiots out there who are just like, you know, you can growl them, but most of the time they have either mental disability or something.
02:28:15.900
But those men, it's so hard to act like a child that most of the time they catch wind or will do the stakeout and they'll figure it out.
02:28:26.760
I would never be present at the actual, like, stakeout.
02:28:29.120
Like, I would just be talking to them, messaging them.
02:28:31.420
It would usually be kick a lot most of the time.
02:28:33.280
There used to be apps that would have chat rooms that we would go into, and I would say, like, we would talk for, like, a week or so, and then we would be meeting up, but I would never be at the meetup location.
02:28:43.860
And I, most of the time, would not know what would happen from that point forward.
02:28:47.640
Because it's, like, there's, like, if they find out that I'm actually of age, they could play it on themselves to be, like, well, she actually is, you know, 19 years old.
02:28:56.680
I was talking to a 19-year-old, but, like, I said I was 12.
02:29:00.000
Like, I was saying I was 12, so that's, like, the age you're believing.
02:29:02.380
But if I show up, then they're going to be, like, no, no, see, look.
02:29:08.260
Okay, so you made $6,000, sorry, $6,000 sending your stuff.
02:29:14.240
Yeah, really unconventional, but, like, $11,000 selling my eggs to gay daddies because, you know.
02:29:21.760
Okay, I mean, that's not really quite what I had in mind for the question.
02:29:26.800
Well, you've just got to be more specific then.
02:29:28.740
Well, it's more so, like, I mean, that was probably a service provided through, like, a legitimate.
02:29:34.520
Yes, but you didn't say, like, that it had to just be a man-to-man deal.
02:29:43.680
Yeah, yeah, like, a dude wanting feet pics or some shit.
02:29:50.380
I honestly have not been paid or done anything crazy.
02:29:58.040
I've been paid $2,000 to take off work and just hang out with somebody.
02:30:04.980
Is there space for your legs or is it just too tight?
02:30:09.720
Okay, just so we can get you a little closer than mine.
02:30:13.340
Was the question how much a guy has spent on a date?
02:30:23.080
I've never thought about, oh, how much has this guy spent on me on a date?
02:30:29.240
Has he ever offered you money for anything weird?
02:30:37.440
One of my friends, when I was still at UCLA, got invited to go with some creepy older
02:30:47.600
And she's like, well, maybe if I can bring a friend.
02:30:59.560
But she was trying to avoid being in the room with him.
02:31:01.680
Because, like, you know, flew her to Vegas, man.
02:31:07.480
We met some guy that taught us how to get the cheapest drink on the strip.
02:31:11.660
And he was like, you just kind of pretend to play the poker games.
02:31:18.240
So you weren't paid anything, but you got a free flight.
02:31:21.440
Well, I mean, I didn't fucking pay for my flight.
02:31:33.300
What's the next highest that you were paid for something?
02:31:50.340
Because there's not a market for this for, like, how old were you?
02:31:54.760
Yeah, there's not a market for, like, older women to get this shit from young dudes.
02:31:59.280
Like, y'all paying your college tuition with some of this shit.
02:32:03.320
There is a market, though, for older men to get this content from younger men.
02:32:14.620
No, it's a lot of successful guys that I know in the industry.
02:32:17.540
That's why, like, most gay porn is, like, it's gay for pay.
02:32:20.620
Like, most of those men that you see, like, they are...
02:32:32.440
Has a guy ever offered you money for anything weird?
02:32:41.760
Expensive dates or, I guess, like, really expensive jewelry.
02:32:45.840
Wait, I want to say the one thing, the best gift a guy's ever brought me.
02:32:49.300
He came from L.A. down to where I live in San Diego.
02:32:56.800
He felt bad that I lived alone and was not, like, didn't have family or anybody.
02:33:14.140
And a holster and a flashlight for when I go on my walks and all this stuff.
02:33:19.880
And a picnic on the beach in the back of his land cruiser that opened up with safari doors.
02:33:43.140
We didn't work out because he was hung up on his ex, so...
02:33:52.140
Yeah, and the prettiest bouquet of flowers, like $100 bouquet of flowers, prettiest one
02:33:59.000
How long had it been since he had broken up from his last...
02:34:01.700
It had been, like, five or six months, but they had lived together for a while, and I
02:34:05.900
think he was really, like, he was not over that, and I was like, I don't want to be with
02:34:10.000
You guys want to hear the most a girl's spent on me?
02:34:32.500
You're dating or going out with the wrong girls.
02:34:34.000
You're into the submissive type, then, I guess.
02:34:39.080
I'm just saying, you're over here getting $5,000 for your panties, and a chick bought
02:34:48.320
Trust me, when I spoil my partners, that's very different.
02:35:12.840
I like to receive gifts, but I also love to give gifts.
02:35:17.320
All right, let's get through these super chats.
02:35:20.100
We got a ton, so I'm going to get caught up real quick.
02:35:27.040
Okay, here's the official rating, because a lot of y'all rated yourself 10.
02:35:33.540
Official rating for tonight from Tear On Down, 9828255.
02:35:44.140
Don't you think it's a bit of hubris, though, to say that you're a 10?
02:35:48.720
I think these girls are all beautiful on the panel.
02:35:54.900
And it's like, so last time I ranked myself an eight, right?
02:35:57.020
We're talking about looks only, not personality-wise, whatever.
02:36:03.480
So somebody could find you the most drop-dead gorgeous man on the earth while somebody
02:36:10.000
What justice am I doing myself if I'm already ranking myself lower?
02:36:17.380
And personality-wise, I know maybe I'm lacking a point.
02:36:24.020
I know mentally I'm not the best person I could be, so I know I could be a better version
02:36:28.160
of myself right now, like, thought mentality-wise.
02:36:31.720
That's why I know I could be, like, maybe a nine overall and then raise up to a 10 once
02:36:37.120
But looks-wise, I'm never a day again in my life going to damper on my looks or say I'm
02:36:49.640
You're the only one you can, you're the only person you get.
02:36:51.920
What do you think you said your point rating could increase if you get, you know, the mental
02:36:59.040
Yeah, it's like, right now, I'm like, I was in between places for a little bit.
02:37:05.320
Like, I was going through trauma response therapy for a long time and I stopped my trauma response
02:37:10.780
therapy and my medication and I probably should be back on it.
02:37:15.880
So I feel like until I finish with that or finish my therapy, that I won't be a full
02:38:00.380
So until I get that figured out, probably not a full 10.
02:38:05.160
Were you asking them what their personality is?
02:38:07.540
I was asking them what their drug prescriptions are.
02:38:19.320
If it wasn't for that cocktail, I would have been dead a long time ago.
02:38:24.200
We got Freshest Toothbrush saying Grace is a 10.
02:38:34.900
Submission is an extremely difficult choice to make.
02:38:37.260
Choosing the right man to submit to is even more difficult.
02:38:50.420
Someone tell the 40-year-old chick with tattoos that rolling your eyes and making faces isn't
02:39:00.480
But at least I have people invite me on a podcast, so maybe you can stop paying $10 so
02:39:06.080
that they'll pay attention to you sometime every day, Edgar.
02:39:16.840
How's it going in Quebec or wherever you're from?
02:39:24.880
Have any of you left the United States of America to a foreign country?
02:39:30.420
Also, did you notice how the culture is much better?
02:39:56.780
So, that means you two and you three have been out of the country?
02:40:17.300
Jeg tala ekki gott isanskud at vi jaf glema mikið, so...
02:40:31.240
The Danes sound like Swedes that are choking on something.
02:40:33.840
They have something in their throat that they're gargling.
02:40:44.320
I was about to say, that sounds like a code for something.
02:41:05.980
Let's say this sultan is like, yo, come out here for 50K.
02:41:09.400
We've got a bunch of dudes that are going to give you a golden shower.
02:41:40.680
I would fold the laundry and chop it Hobby Lobby with her every weekend.
02:41:44.960
Okay, guys, G's in the chat for Grace, I guess.
02:41:54.500
Guys, we're like five members away from unlocking our next emoji, so please consider joining us.
02:42:09.200
They seem have the best balance of emotion slash logic towards men.
02:42:13.700
Again, the chick with the tattoo neck is cute, but she talks too much.
02:42:17.920
Can I say something about that if I talk too much?
02:42:21.480
Imagine coming home to her voice after a stressful day.
02:42:25.700
My last two relationships ended because I wouldn't talk to them enough.
02:42:39.880
That might have been the most intelligent thing I've said all night.
02:43:02.880
I get the impression, though, that you're being argumentative because, obviously, you've been invited on the podcast.
02:43:10.660
And I suspect your interactions one-on-one with a partner would probably look different than how you've been communicating with us right now.
02:43:18.980
I just make sure I don't date people who think the way that some people do on this table.
02:43:24.100
No, but really, like, even if it's, like, with his opinions, like, if I would have been hearing this, like, I feel like you guys just, like, really, like, targeted some of the things that I'm most passionate and vocal about just from my career and what I'm involved into.
02:43:40.160
So, I would feel like it would be an injustice to sit here with my mouth shut.
02:43:46.840
But I was saying when we had a talk earlier with the career I'm in, I firsthand see a lot of those things happening.
02:43:55.740
So, that's why, obviously, it might make me biased in a way to where I think the percentages are much higher than they are.
02:44:01.020
But then there's people who don't see it at all, so they think the percentages are much lower than they are.
02:44:05.100
So, and then we just would kind of come into that middle ground in between.
02:44:15.840
Also, can we get a she belongs to the streets sound effect for Hensley.
02:44:28.740
Actually, me and Hensley met like two years ago.
02:44:33.660
And the one thing she said to me is, came out of her mouth.
02:44:49.420
And I was like, I'll get you on the podcast one day.
02:44:59.000
And I appreciate and salute how you never let it get under your skin.
02:45:20.600
Like, the chat wants to hear your, the base Tensley takes.
02:45:31.140
I think it's just the other girls have really taken charge on this one.
02:45:39.560
I know exactly what you're going to respond to mine.
02:45:41.980
Maybe I have been on the podcast a little too much at this point.
02:45:52.200
And as much as I'm, like, on their side and with them, I can see exactly what you're going
02:45:56.660
And I'm like, I'm not going to dig myself into that hole again.
02:46:04.500
I mean, I definitely like to think argumentation and debate is not war.
02:46:08.440
But I think there have definitely been parts of this debate where it has gone like war.
02:46:23.680
But I don't think this is necessarily the time people need to hear my voice again.
02:46:30.460
So you're kind of opening it up for the other panelists too.
02:46:34.240
And I think like you said in that one shot that you was sent, you know, a lot of times I
02:46:37.840
answer and then we get a line of girls going, yeah, me too.
02:46:49.660
We got Mike Davis here with the $20 super chat.
02:46:57.440
Get my picture up there with Trilstein and Dave on.
02:47:02.600
From here on out, let us be known as the trifecta.
02:47:17.400
But Michael Trilstein, thank you for the big...
02:47:28.340
We got Dave on Jackson with the $10 super chat.
02:47:30.620
Appreciate the support since we can't tell women not to be like Nicolette.
02:47:35.040
Please allow me to preach to men to stop simping this hard for these three-o foes.
02:47:46.500
Nicolette, your response to Mr. Dave on Jackson.
02:47:51.960
My response is that people don't like when they see another person who's unapologetically themselves who is sexually liberated, comfortable with their sexuality.
02:48:13.980
And all I have to say to that is grow some fucking balls and work on your self-esteem.
02:48:23.660
And I don't think anybody else should for anyone else's opinion.
02:48:30.760
And this is sort of a common thing I've heard come up.
02:48:33.860
Would you take issue with a guy being uncomfortable or not wanting to date someone who was a sex worker?
02:48:40.040
For example, someone who had an OnlyFans or who was a stripper or who...
02:48:48.560
Would you have an issue with a guy saying, hey, you're free to do what you want to do, but I wouldn't want to date you because you've done OnlyFans?
02:48:58.440
Um, I wouldn't have an issue with it because I believe everyone has the option to be with whoever they want to be with.
02:49:07.760
You know, if someone wants to be with someone who doesn't do OnlyFans, they have every right to.
02:49:13.700
And myself, I have the right to be with someone who...
02:49:19.120
I have the right to be with someone who accepts me for who I am.
02:49:23.460
And the fact that so many people are so judgmental about sex workers, that just goes to show that not everyone should join this industry.
02:49:43.660
Would you date a guy who's slept with a bunch of prostitutes?
02:50:09.600
All right, we got Earl with the $10 super chat.
02:50:24.000
Like, maybe let your body be all cute and fresh, and then when you start to get towards 30,
02:50:29.160
or like I did in the past two years, just blast the shit out of yourself.
02:50:33.800
I mean, I have a lot of tattoos, but I had tattoos earlier in my 20s.
02:50:36.880
I just thought I wasn't going to get more than, like, three.
02:50:39.360
Well, just put the arms out so that people can see.
02:50:41.860
I have this sleeve that's coming together on this side.
02:50:52.780
Have you been doing tricep dips since our last...
02:51:01.680
Like, the striations on your tricep were like, I'm not going to lie.
02:51:04.500
They were like, damn, that's pretty impressive.
02:51:21.300
Okay, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
02:51:23.400
Girl and the wife beater who thinks she's got a line of husbands.
02:51:27.380
What she really got is a pack of Nigerian scammers.
02:51:40.580
No, honestly, I've had some pick-of-the-mill men who would want to.
02:51:48.160
Because I have tattoos, you think, that a man with money or standards or higher ground
02:51:55.400
You're very wrongly concerned with the wrong thing.
02:51:58.840
Don't worry about my pockets or my engagements.
02:52:15.000
Okay, Milos Track, thank you for the Australian.
02:52:18.880
I feel bad for all the people on the left, including the host, for seeing through this
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and sacrificing brain cells listening to this torture.
02:52:26.020
Well, you are too, friend, so feel bad for yourself, I guess.
02:52:30.900
Are you confirming that he's sacrificing brain cells right now?
02:52:35.000
If he's going to tell you guys he feels bad for you, like, shouldn't he feel bad for
02:52:42.960
Frank, okay, so Fresh and Fit, which was, shout out to Fresh and Fit, obviously, pretty
02:52:48.500
major inspiration for the show, just in terms of their format.
02:52:53.900
Frank Castle is their term they use when, if a girl's being disrespectful or getting
02:53:01.420
And you've been on, if I'm correct, you've been on Fresh and Fit.
02:53:04.460
I think you're the first person that's been on Fresh and Fit and been on a podcast.
02:53:07.440
So, how was that experience, like, on Fresh and Fit?
02:53:24.040
Frank Castle, that's basically when you kick someone off the show.
02:53:28.740
They're saying that you should Frank Castle me?
02:53:42.920
If the podcast will be better without me, I'm willing to take the sacrifice.
02:53:53.680
For becoming a member, really appreciate it, man.
02:54:09.880
I don't want to go back to this, but thank you for the soup chat, man.
02:54:22.220
She claims she's calling out P-word by calling men who aren't P-word, P-word, but turns around
02:54:42.840
I get that it could be contradictory in a sentence, like in a state, but if it makes sense to myself,
02:54:48.640
that's all I personally give a fuck about, and my dad's not checking me, neither my mom,
02:55:20.580
I wouldn't try to get her number outside, or socially at all, just saying,
02:55:34.740
Yeah, Kai said that she was pretty, and then she said I was pretty when we were arguing,
02:55:39.320
Thank you for Milo Strack with the Australian $10 man.
02:55:51.660
Haha, don't take note of neck tattoo, but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their
02:56:24.280
I can't wait to ride on my trusted steed, swoop, m'lady, on the far left up to ride side
02:56:31.420
saddle behind me, and live happily ever after in whichever monarchy that chase rules over.
02:56:43.180
Brian, you should have put that one on, though.
02:57:04.940
Hensley has such a cool, cold, calculating, I-don't-give-a-fuck persona.
02:57:11.280
I find it both very attractive and very off-putting.
02:57:26.940
Frenzy, you'll end up hooked on her like heroin, and then you'll find yourself in rehab
02:57:33.400
Green Lantern, thank you for the nine British pounds.
02:57:39.100
Anyways, Hensley, please tell these Christians the earth wasn't created 6,000 years ago.
02:57:52.380
I don't necessarily believe we evolved from apes, though.
02:57:59.900
I have questions about the first chapter of Genesis.
02:58:04.160
Because how do you have a day before the sun is even created?
02:58:20.620
My question was addressed to the blonde in the center.
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But don't forget, she's waiting until marriage.
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and never got attention from females without having money.
02:59:10.880
So females on the right shouldn't take the attacks seriously.
02:59:22.960
How much is someone going to have to super chat
02:59:36.180
She's going to make you some money right now with her feet
02:59:54.740
The price doesn't matter if I don't get my first.
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I'm just going to take these off the table for now.
03:00:32.920
Insulting people for soup chatting is more an insult to Brian than to us.
03:00:35.700
Do you think the show you're currently sitting on isn't worth supporting?
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I appreciate the continued support week after week, man.
03:00:47.460
Issue with these soup chats when you don't get to them right away is that you just skip
03:00:52.020
If you don't answer soup chats anymore in a reasonable time, I will stop.
03:00:57.840
You know, maybe I need to, when I'm getting a high frequency of soup chats, I might have
03:01:08.060
I don't know, but we had, honestly, I don't know how many, we've had 75 super chats tonight,
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I think his qualm is that when you get to the super chats, we skip, no, we skip over
03:01:21.740
Like, we almost skipped over the question about whether or not Austis was single, but I went
03:01:27.520
He really wanted to know the answer to that one.
03:01:45.460
Yeah, to be fair, I think Nicolette's pretty fucking hilarious.
03:02:28.920
Last pod, Hensley had blood coming from the face.
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Ask them why usually white women don't date Asian men.
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Well, I guess I suppose we can ask the white women this.
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I went to boarding school and everyone was Asian.
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And it traumatized you because they were Asian?
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It was a huge cultural divide and just living in one year where I was like the only white
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woman in the entire boarding school of 150 students, it just really turned me off from
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Did all of them want you because you were the white chick?
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It was an all-Christian boarding school in Santa Cruz.
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You wanted to go to an all-Christian boarding school?
03:04:09.180
There's so many things I could say to him, but I'm just going to keep quiet.
03:04:23.520
You'll have a chance to clap back at Mike Davis.
03:04:27.220
Kiko, if I can just take a moment to endorse Mike Davis.
03:04:34.420
He's a very wealthy businessman on the East Coast.
03:05:16.240
Grace has good ideas, but her eyes too far apart.
03:05:39.360
She should hire Hensley as a therapist to teach her how to take a joke.
03:05:42.840
On the real, you're beautiful, life will be okay.
03:05:56.600
If you're going to say panty seller, please also address Nicolette.
03:06:01.620
She's getting upset that you're not, okay, equally paying her attention.
03:06:11.240
You spent about $40 to $50 commenting on me this night.
03:06:16.860
You should just give him your Venmo, Nicolette.
03:06:25.920
you could just cash up me this money instead and just save it to me.
03:06:40.660
Yo, appreciate everyone just dropping all these soup chats.
03:06:42.920
We've had, I think, over 75 soup chats tonight.
03:07:24.100
Because we were talking about this specific topic, I think this will put a little cherry
03:07:30.960
We've watched this video quite a few times before.
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Eric, if you can please pull up the Andrew Tate clip.
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So, while I go figure out what's going on there, I want to open it up to the panel.
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I have, like, for male viewers, I just have some advice for you guys.
03:08:36.160
And I've had guys, like, fumble the bag really bad recently.
03:09:00.960
Because if you, like, have her, like, if he's into you, if you're into her...
03:09:16.720
First guy fumbled the bag because he was into me, but I only found out about it, like, through
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So, even though I, like, would have been interested in, like, getting to know more
03:09:26.240
about him, he, like, never got the courage to, like, talk to me about it directly, which
03:09:34.840
But, so, in the future, if you're listening, you should be, like, confident and fearless
03:09:39.140
and just go for a girl if you like her so that you, yeah, you never know if she's going
03:09:48.840
This actually opens up an excellent question that I have for all of you guys.
03:09:54.100
What advice would you guys give guys that are trying to find the right woman, become
03:10:04.740
Here's another thing not to do that I just, like, have to get off is if you, if you don't,
03:10:13.960
I don't know, and I want to hear your guys' thoughts on this, too.
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What are your thoughts on you first, you're first talking to a guy and he, right off the
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bat, it's like, just so you know, like, I'm only looking for, like, casual sex, basically.
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Because that's fumbling the bag, if you ask me.
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Like, if a guy were to come up to me and be like, I'm just, because I'm not looking for
03:10:40.760
So, if he was like, I'm just looking for something casual, I'd be, like, down.
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But if I was actually looking for my husband or something serious, I'd be, like, that's
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So, it just depends on where you're standing and, like, what you want, I guess.
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To go off of what she said, even though also at the time I'm not looking for anything really
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I'm more exploring and finding out what I like and don't like in a partner.
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If somebody says that to me off the bat, it's just kind of a red flag because, I don't know,
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if some girls want honesty and you want the honesty straightforward, me, I'd rather go
03:11:17.340
with the illusion that we love each other for two weeks and then never speak to each
03:11:22.720
Like, at least fake it till you make it, a little bit.
03:11:32.660
Actually, really quick, I think this is directed at you.
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We have Rolo Tomasi, the rational male, in the chat.
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I have one daughter and then I have fur babies.
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There's a lot of guys watching this to gain insight on, you know, women, how your guys'
03:12:05.500
minds work, how they can get better with women.
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And I'm curious, like, I'm sure you guys have things in your minds where you're like, you
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There's a lot of dudes out there with potential, but they fall short in this way or that way.
03:12:16.540
What could guys do, generally speaking, in our generation, to be better with women in
03:12:27.800
Did you want to go on that or you want me to start?
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I would say one thing would be just clarity to women.
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But also, I think that there are men out there that are scared of commitment.
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I think that guys should be more open about that if they don't want to commit or are not
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I really appreciate when a guy is like, hey, I want to take you on a date and do this.
03:13:20.640
Like, I'm not going to hang out and that's just not for me.
03:13:25.860
If you're serious about it, I think that there should be intentionality into it.
03:13:32.980
Like, at that age, I think you should be able to have a conversation.
03:13:36.600
I will say, that guy that was the best date, one of the best things about him was when
03:13:53.860
You're awesome, but I'm still thinking about my ex and I don't think this is a good thing.
03:14:00.380
I've had a lot of guys that are just, like, that ghost or that just aren't mature about
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Because I left that situation feeling like, okay.
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Like, it didn't work out and I have nothing bad against him.
03:14:21.960
My two things that I would say for both men and women when it comes to dating is do not
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Don't sacrifice something just for someone because you think you like them.
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Don't just, and when I say authenticity, I'm talking about, like, your passions, your interest.
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Don't fake an interest just so you can get closer to somebody.
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So, I'm going to piggyback off of the girls over here.
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I think that don't limit yourself like what you said.
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I, for example, like, last weekend I had this guy tell me, I was so shocked.
03:15:10.520
He said, I would rather settle for a 5 or 6 than get denied by a 10.
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So, he basically said, he doesn't even go up to girls who he thinks, he, his wording
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So, he doesn't, like, go up to girls who he considers, like, a 10 or highly ranked because
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he has this perception of them that they're bitches or, like, turn you down or whatever.
03:15:47.900
Um, and then also what you said, what you two said was to be, um, to be honest about what
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You know, I feel like most girls would prefer that.
03:16:07.500
I've also had this other guy tell me that he purposely leads girls on and makes them think,
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makes them believe that he wants a relationship because he believes that he's more likely
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I, in my opinion, that's the same thing as rape.
03:16:25.780
It's the same thing as RA or whatever you want to call it.
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Can you, can you just, like, rewind 15 seconds?
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So if the girl is only, if the girl is only hooking up with you because she believes that
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she's going to get like a relationship out of you or you guys are heading towards that
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route and you are manipulating her into thinking that and say if she would have known prior that
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that's all that you wanted out of her, maybe she wouldn't have hooked up with you.
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So you are manipulating her into having sex with the girl.
03:17:03.500
So you're saying, like, guys are saying they want something more serious in order to secure
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Is that kind of what you're getting at a little bit?
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You make an ass out of you and an ass out of me.
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I mean, I guess if it's coercion for a guy to say, I'm really into you, I want to pursue
03:17:34.360
something seriously, I'm interested in a relationship, would you also agree then that it's coercion
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when women wear makeup or have plastic surgery or have face filters or Photoshop?
03:17:50.960
If a guy was like, yo, like, I want to date you and you were like, okay, and then you
03:17:59.160
had sex with him and then he just, like, bounced on you, you said that you consider that rape,
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I mean, she's trying to, like, I get what she's trying to say, because, like, I wouldn't
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necessarily say, like, yeah, like, that's rape or anything.
03:18:17.700
I would not agree, but it is a form of, like, you know, it's manipulation, basically.
03:18:24.260
I wouldn't necessarily say that's straight up rape or anything, because I don't think
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it's justifiable to go and take that to court or the length, extent, or whatever,
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but it's been a new discussion being brought up about how it's similar to coercion awake.
03:18:40.640
Like, if you're, if somebody's saying no a million times and you're, like, convincing
03:18:43.780
them to say yes after a certain point, because most times women say yes after a while, because
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we fear our safety and we're thinking it's either let's say yes and get this over with
03:18:52.840
or it could be a violent thing in the end, right?
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But, like, personally, from what she's saying, I disagree.
03:18:58.680
I wouldn't say necessarily it's rape, but it is a form of manipulation and it's a very
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mild, watered-down form of assault in a way, because, but it depends on how it's done,
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because there's, like, but I, I don't know how to explain it.
03:19:16.660
You have three years to sue someone for not disclosing something to you.
03:19:20.200
So, if you can find that there's mold in the house and say, you know, you don't know if
03:19:26.260
the selling agent, the person who sold you that house, they may or may not have known
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So, I hope I'm getting my point across, but basically, like, but you're not disclosing
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And, you know, there's a lot of girls out there that'll probably sleep with you anyway.
03:19:46.400
Wait, let me just, let me just say something, let me just say something for all the guys
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You guys, I want, I want you to hear what they're saying very clearly.
03:19:53.940
We live in an age where there's a lot of false rape accusations that are thrown around.
03:19:57.340
There's a lot of false sexual assault, assault accusations that are thrown around.
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Just stay abstinent like him and you'll be okay.
03:20:09.780
Can we, can we stop with the ad hominem attacks on, on each other guys?
03:20:13.860
Um, okay, so, um, but okay, so your position is, is that if a guy is being disingenuous
03:20:22.420
as to his intentions in courting you, that if, if he makes a statement, for example, I'm
03:20:30.640
interested in a long-term relationship and that happens to not be true, you're saying
03:20:35.820
that that is tantamount to sexual, I just, I just want to understand what you're saying.
03:20:44.160
Am I, is that a fair assessment of what your position is?
03:20:48.180
Why don't you turn the question on to the, these girls on the right.
03:20:53.620
If they were to get married to someone and then have, you know, sexual intercourse
03:21:00.240
with them and that person then on goes to divorce them, like, I'm sure they would feel
03:21:15.280
The, the only point I'll make is that if it's, if men are, if, if it's somehow coercion
03:21:21.760
or there's either some sort of criminal, there, there's a suggestion that there should be criminal
03:21:27.320
liability for men making romantic, ah, there, there's a, there's a specific term for this,
03:21:38.080
But then, then surely it also must be criminal for women to wear makeup, use Photoshop, get
03:21:47.460
It could be criminal for a girl to lead a guy on in that same way.
03:22:01.320
I told her, I said, I want a man to lead me on if anything, so I don't remember.
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No, that's not what I'm saying, obviously, but it's like, I was saying.
03:22:14.980
No, because I said earlier when we're talking about if we want men to be straight up with
03:22:18.100
us or whatever, and I said how I'm not seeking a relationship right now, but I'd rather
03:22:21.980
fake the funk for a couple weeks other than us just off the bat being like, you know, so
03:22:32.880
I was actually saying that I think it's different, but then Brian's blocking eye contact with
03:22:42.740
I just wanted to say on that, just real quick, the, you, you do like us as women, I believe
03:22:51.620
that we, I'm, I'm not, I'm not saying that that's right.
03:22:55.660
Like, I totally get that there's situations where stuff is really bad that can happen.
03:23:00.480
But I do think that we as women, if we want to say that we respect ourselves and we have
03:23:05.480
a high amount of respect for ourselves, I think that you really do have to be the gatekeeper
03:23:10.720
on seeing who this man is and, and not putting yourself in a situation where that could happen.
03:23:20.840
Like, I would be like, no, I need to see who this guy is.
03:23:23.180
I'm not even like, you can take me on proper dates.
03:23:25.520
I'm not going to, I'm not going to fool around because I don't want that regret for myself
03:23:35.200
And that's actually has, gives me more self-respect because I know that I'm keeping my limits to
03:23:44.460
I mean, the argument is that it's coercion if a guy is saying, no, baby, I'm going to date
03:23:53.060
I mean, when they're like, come on, come on, let's just do it.
03:23:57.900
That's not what, that's not what she was saying.
03:24:00.720
That's why I put, I was just saying that because I brought up the definition coercion
03:24:04.040
earlier because I was saying, I don't think what she's saying is rape necessarily, but
03:24:08.080
a close, like, send them to the situation she's talking about is coercion where I believe
03:24:14.540
That's the only reason why I brought that word.
03:24:20.060
And a guy's like, no, no, no, come on, come on, come on.
03:24:23.380
I don't think it's assault if somebody leads somebody on.
03:24:30.780
I don't think coercion is to be used to describe a man leading a woman on.
03:24:36.180
Do you think it's coercion if a guy is saying, yeah, baby, I want to date you.
03:25:03.820
Nicolette's ancestors survived just to have their descendant value themselves at $6.99.
03:25:11.400
Would you like to respond to Mr. Davon Jackson?
03:25:22.620
I actually just, I made a sale because I know it's coming on tonight.
03:25:47.200
She has a promo code, whatever, if you want a little for her OnlyFans.
03:25:57.860
And whether we disagree or not, it's all for, you know, just content and entertainment.
03:26:03.080
I think we just learned from this, if not at least myself, that I learned I believe what
03:26:12.420
And I'm sure you guys learned that you believe what you think for certain reasons.
03:26:15.800
Like, to be completely blank and straightforward, there's a few things that you guys said that
03:26:20.920
if I wasn't trying to be respectful in this room, I would have straight up laughed at
03:26:23.580
and been like, I would never, ever, ever agree with that.
03:26:28.100
And I'm sure there's things that we said that you guys would straight up laugh at and be
03:26:32.340
And that's why we are how we are and you guys how you are.
03:26:35.360
And you're going to pursue the men you pursue and we're going to pursue the people we pursue.
03:26:46.620
Chase, we have Mike Davis here with a $10 soup chat.
03:26:51.400
One minute in and you'll be screaming black lives matter.
03:27:02.360
And you really had to ask me if I would be into this man.
03:27:13.120
You don't have to dox on the show, but we at least have to get beers, bro.
03:27:19.360
And if you do want to be on the show, like I said, I have that Guy Fawkes mask.
03:27:31.300
Don't put Trilstein's chats on screen unless they're 500 plus.
03:27:40.860
Hey, but thank you for all the support, Michael.
03:27:43.980
Thank you for the 10 gifted memberships at the beginning of the show.
03:27:48.060
By the way, guys, we're really close to getting, unlocking our next emoji.
03:27:51.240
So if you guys want to gift or become a member, we're super close.
03:28:01.480
So let's watch this one video, and then we'll wrap in like 510.
03:28:05.480
Eric, can you try once more to play that video for us?
03:28:15.800
Do, press, stop first and then try pressing it.
03:28:50.980
Green Lantern said, Chase, would you rather smash the hottest trans woman in the world or
03:28:58.040
The oldest woman in the world, because then I wouldn't be gay.
03:29:03.200
You really just want me to just rip you a fucking nail on.
03:29:09.380
Are you like, Chase, how dare you be transphobic?
03:29:15.860
Because if I had sex with a trans woman, I'd be having sex with a biological man, and I
03:29:21.040
The question is, that's not what you said, though.
03:29:23.300
Because I'd be gay if I had sex with a biological man.
03:29:26.420
And I don't even care if you're doing this for like, whatever, but like, shut the fuck up,
03:29:36.160
Because I have an opinion that differs from yours.
03:29:54.440
Okay, if you guys want to respect gender identities, that's his, though.
03:29:59.860
It means you want, but that part was too fucking far.
03:30:04.480
From a biological woman who doesn't even have any trans friends, that was too fucking far.
03:30:09.860
A man of God who doesn't judge a Christian, yeah.
03:30:21.400
I don't believe that you feel like you're fucking projecting.
03:30:37.720
If you want to defend people's sexuality and sexual orientation, then you should respect
03:30:46.920
I know I wasn't trying to run out, but I took the opportunity.
03:31:02.220
She made it through that entire conversation, and then that was...
03:31:05.720
I find it interesting that that was the thing that made her walk off.
03:31:11.380
Well, yeah, we've been going for a while, so it's probably like the fuse was short.
03:31:29.140
Who knew that stating biological facts would make people walk off the show?
03:31:33.220
Chase, they didn't finish answering your question.
03:31:43.280
And then EG, this is better than Jerry Springer.
03:32:06.380
The views expressed by the panelists on this show do not necessarily reflect the channel
03:32:19.080
What Brian's trying to say is he would have slept with the super hot trans woman.
03:32:31.480
I'm surprised that we were so close to making it to the end, too.
03:32:55.960
If anybody in the chat's down to help out with video editing, I'm just overwhelmed with
03:32:59.900
like all the other stuff I'm doing on the podcast, I have not dedicated enough time
03:33:03.880
to doing clips, uploading clips to TikTok, clips to YouTube, both shorts and regular clips.
03:33:09.540
So if anybody's down to help out, let me know, DM out, whatever.
03:33:12.860
By the way, Ghost Stalker told me to tell you guys we've got a few super chats we've got
03:33:38.220
I think we might have missed one of Mike Davis's...
03:33:40.220
Why don't we just check the super chats at the top?
03:33:51.780
From Mike Davis and others, he needs to go back and read.
03:33:55.620
Can you just scroll up, Eric, and just check on...
03:34:14.420
The only thing wannabe Ariana learned is that she needs to get back on the meds as soon
03:34:52.860
We just had one more that came in from Mike Davis.
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All I want to say is that I respect everyone's opinions here.
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This has been a very interesting podcast so far, I have to say.
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Oosties, any thoughts besides just interesting?
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I think it's a pretty important topic, especially in our generation, like dating and relationships
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In Icelandic, when you say bye, you say bless, bless.
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And I just thought that was really cool because when you're saying goodbye to someone, you're
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literally blessing them and that's in the Icelandic language.
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For a second, it seemed like you and Kiko were going to legit go fight.
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I would never get into topics like this with her.
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Like, if I had met her not on this podcast, we would have probably had like a great friendship.
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I just, I just want to know if I can go back to backstage at one point.
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I pushed Brian pretty hard to have a very polarized opposite extreme ends of the spectrum panel because I thought something like this might happen, and it did.
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I want you guys on this side of the table to know I don't think I'm better than you in any way, okay?
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I thank you guys for coming in, stating your opinions.
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Also, thank you ladies for sharing your positions.
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It's nice to finally get a few God-fearing women on the show.
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It's pretty rare, and yeah, Brian, thanks for having all of us, bro.
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Yeah, thank you guys for coming, and I'm trying to think if there's anything else, less things.
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Well, it's unfortunate that Kiko stormed out like that, but, or, well, yeah, I mean, we don't like to see people get upset.
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Yeah, Kiko, if you end up watching this, I just want you to know I respect you as well.
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So, big thank you to everyone here who came on.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
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We might be doing another dating talk panel Sunday.
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If that doesn't materialize, we will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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Guys, like the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm.
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Thanks again to the wonderful panel for joining us.
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You said big Mike Trillstein is coming in on Tuesday?
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And then we have a very good panel on Tuesday as well.
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You were trying to prove a point about how hard it is for guys to, like, get sex from women and stuff.
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And you were like, Madison, would you have sex with me?
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You know what's funny is, like, we legitimately, we just talked.
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But, and the girls that, the other girls were on the panel, like, on the panel were like, maybe they're trying to be protective or whatever.
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But they were like, some of them seem more like trying to cock block.
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After the show, they're trying to cock block it.
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I think part of it was just them, like, being protective or whatever.
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But, like, we legit, we just sat and talked for, like, 30 minutes.
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Thanks to the, sorry, guys, it's almost going on in four hours.