Dating Talk #38
Episode Stats
Length
4 hours and 4 minutes
Words per Minute
168.8979
Hate Speech Sentences
253
Summary
In this episode, we interview Dr. Warren Farrell, talk about his new book, The Boy Crisis, and talk about a clip from Oprah in the 80s and 90s. We then introduce ourselves and have our first guest on the show.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in briso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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Earlier today, I interviewed Dr. Warren Farrell, a one-on-one interview.
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It's a great interview, talked about his book, The Boy Crisis, among many other topics.
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Unfortunately, we reacted to a clip from Oprah in the 80s, 90s or something.
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And I guess the company that manages the rights for that, they did a copyright thing.
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So I think it's only available in the United States.
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So if you're not in the U.S., you might have to use a VPN to watch it in the U.S.
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But it is up, and we are working on getting that copyright thing figured out.
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We are now going to have the guests introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
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I am a stand-up comedian, and what was the last one?
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School or major, if you are currently in school.
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I am a bud tender, and I don't go to school currently.
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Hi, my name is Ginny, and I'm 23, and I work at Starbucks.
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I'm working in beauty, a cosmetologist, studying esthetician.
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So we're going to go around the table once more.
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Tell us your current relationship status, longest relationship.
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We're going to do a dating app review of their dating profiles.
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So if you're on any dating apps, and that does include seeking arrangements, go ahead.
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And, yeah, I'm on the dating apps right now a little bit.
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It's, you know, I lost a lot of weight, so it's been really good for me.
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I'm not on any dating platforms or anything like that.
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I mean, I found the Bumble, but I had to download it for you to look at it.
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I only did it with her because I'm in love with you.
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So, you're single, or are you vibing with somebody?
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So, that was like high school, sweetheart type thing.
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Besides the ones that I sent you, but I'm not really active on it.
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And have any of you been on Seeking Arrangements?
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So, you guys have sugar daddies or did have sugar daddies?
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Yeah, and he wants me to start doing arrangements again, but I said no, because I'm just, I'm
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Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
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I'm only on a dating app just for friends right now.
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My longest relationship was three years, but that's not the relationship I'm in now.
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I have a relationship, and I do have a Tinder, but I don't use it.
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Well, I'm single, and I have the dating app, but just for fun.
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Current relationship status, longest relationship.
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I do have a Hinge profile, and my longest relationship was about a year.
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And then for you three over here, have any of you been on Seeking Arrangements?
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I have been on there, but I never got a sugar daddy out of it.
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So, for those of you who have been on Seeking Arrangements, some of you have just been on
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What is the most, the highest offer you've received from a guy?
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Maybe $1,000 for a date, or he asked you to send him something.
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Yeah, I've gotten, like, $3,000 just for talking to men, just for messaging them, because they
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You have to look for, like, the right guys, and you just have to be really nice to them.
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$3,000 to talk to them once, or was this over a period of time?
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I built, like, a relationship with them, like a friendship, and they were just super
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sweet and would just send me money whenever I, like, basically ask.
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Tilt your microphone up towards you just slightly.
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And you just, how many times would you say you chatted with him, or was it kind of just...
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Well, I would talk to him throughout the day, every day, just because I have, like, an...
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I've had an office job for a long time, so when I was doing it, I was just, you know,
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talking to him throughout the day, just being nice, asking him how his day was.
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Yeah, I also used to sell feet pictures to them for, like, $200 a pop.
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So, sorry, Eric, I did not mean to play with that.
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That's the most risque thing you've ever sent, is feet pics?
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Oh, I mean, I've sent some pretty risque nudes for free to assholes, but...
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And the lonely, seeking arrangements men have to pay.
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So, for, like, one interaction, so I know there's the guy that paid you $3,000, but that
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What's the most someone's paid you for, like, a one-off thing?
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Just because I didn't even want to do it, I sold a feet picture for, like, $300, and
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If you look at my Instagram, you can find a good picture if you look hard enough.
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Like, maybe, like, what about two toes from, like, the other foot?
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Like, not the full foot, but maybe just two toes.
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I mean, I already told him he got a discount, so...
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I just said that was my price because I didn't want to do it.
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Has anyone else here ever been paid for feet pics?
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What's the most that you've made from an arrangement like this?
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Well, I did go, like, get my feet wet because they look better when they're wet.
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And then your feet get a little pink, you know, and it's just like...
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What's the most that you've made from anything on an arrangement?
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Um, it was more like talking to him, like, three to four times a week.
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Like, he would, like, eat them and swallow them.
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because, like, I've never heard these sorts of stories from men.
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At least the female demand for men to provide these services is not really there, compared
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Would there have been a price that you would have accepted?
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And I was living there, going to school, needed help.
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I was going to say, maybe you could show us after the show.
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And he had literally, just being honest, like, no girl could tolerate him.
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Okay, what if it was, what if it was, like, average sized?
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I think that the average is between five and six inches.
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Okay, but if it's to your knees, that's not average.
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No, but I'm saying, had his phallus been average, would you...
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Because you said you turned him down, because the dick was too big.
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But if it was not too big, would you have taken the offer, the 10K?
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I probably would have, just because, like I said, I was in a predicament for school and
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And then weekly allowance, plus that, it's Miami.
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He wanted to go back to the hotel and just eat me out.
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You don't know the man, and he just wants to eat you out.
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He bought me clothes and stuff, but it was just weird.
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It was weird that he wanted to just eat you out?
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Because most women would be stoked on that, I think.
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I'm a 22-year-old girl with a guy that's in his 40s, and he wants to take me back to
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It may be a normal for a guy, but you're on seeking arrangements.
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Like, even when I'm on Hinge right now looking for friends, the men are older.
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But, like, how old were the guys that were talking to you?
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And, like, those are also the ones that, like, really just want the company.
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Just because, like you guys said, everybody's older on there, and I was younger, and I was
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just kind of like, hmm, I don't need the money that bad.
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Brad Pitt's 58, but he's still a babe, you know?
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Well, those are some pretty interesting stories.
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Like, what about if we don't fuck, but I'll just hang out with you?
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He was just like, I want a petite girl because nobody can handle his penis size.
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Because, because, oh, he wanted a woman who could not handle his penis.
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He wanted a petite girl because petite girls are, like, very, like, slender.
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And from what I have been told, like, petite girls, they can feel the penis going inside.
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Like, when they put their hand on their stomach, they can feel it compared to other.
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We're going to, first off, we're going to react to some of the girls' dating apps,
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So, Erica, if you can pull up the window tab for us, please.
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Oh, someone in the chat wants me to ask Chyna, was it Mike Davis?
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If he's in the chat, he'll have to let us know.
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Yeah, go ahead, Eric, if you want to just get the window tab going.
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I want someone who can make me laugh and stays consistent.
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Actually, well, Hinge is a bit different because you have to.
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I don't even know any of these people that they ever mention me.
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If you look into the monitor here, hold on a minute.
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He is a loyal supporter of the show, Davon Jackson.
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Every time you pick up like that, I think I'm like it.
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Hung like a horse, but not offer any girl attack.
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So, I want someone who can make me laugh and stays consistent.
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A lot of people just kind of disappear, like out of nowhere.
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So, can you give us an example of a recent experience where someone was not consistent, but then they came back?
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It's just like the definition of a situationship, I guess.
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Like, you get to know somebody and you're hanging out and you're hooking up or whatever.
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And then weeks later, they're like, hey, how are you?
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It's just like not responding or, you know, not saying anything.
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So, and then you want someone who can make you laugh.
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What about for the rest of the girls at the table?
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Is humor or a guy who can make you laugh, is that a high priority for you?
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Do you think inverse, I don't know if it's necessarily inversely, but do you think that men care as much as women about a woman's humor or a woman's ability to make a guy laugh?
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I'm trying to find my stupid fucking sound, but I can't do it.
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Most men, honestly, humor is pretty low on the totem pole of what we prioritize in terms of what we find attractive in women.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I don't know if I was able to pull up all of yours, but okay.
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This might be it for her just because I don't know if I was able to get all of them.
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If you, Eric, can you bring it back to her first one?
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Do you swipe left or right on Ayana's Bumble profile?
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Eric, if you can bring it back once it's ready.
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We didn't get all her profile, but, you know, unfortunately, I, what was, what else is in
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I feel like I really didn't say anything very exciting.
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I don't, I haven't been on here in a day of time.
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Jesus, I'm butchering all the girls' names at the table.
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Demisexual is, um, you want to know that person and connect with them before you feel.
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So you, you want an emotional connection before question.
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We're going to continue with our dating app review.
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Doesn't know what she's looking for relationship wise.
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Are you in a cult or what's a, um, I think I'm just exploring and I am very open minded
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Um, and you said you don't know yet what you're looking for relationship wise.
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So I feel like, how recently, um, within the last year and a half.
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Can you really claim you just got out of a relationship though?
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I mean, you said a year and a half ago or two years.
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Yeah, not just, but I think I still have a lot of healing to do.
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Well, let's continue with, uh, her profile here.
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Any person can make me laugh and match my dummy energy.
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I feel like I have a lot of crackhead energy and, um, um, um, yeah, I feel like you have
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Cause I mean, right now we're sitting down, we're having a conversation, but how does that
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When, is it, is it when you're comfortable with someone you're just a, like spaz basically
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No, I think it's definitely when I'm more comfortable with people.
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Um, I think I am pretty extroverted already, but I've feel like I've toned down a lot since
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Can you, can you, can you, maybe it's not a super crackhead.
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And you said the quickest way to your heart is through food.
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So is it a deal breaker if a guy doesn't buy you food or make you food?
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You want someone who cooks for you and brings you food and maybe you want to cook for them.
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So you didn't really list anything though that you bring to the table.
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So I'm curious, what do you bring to, what do you bring to the table?
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Um, I feel like I'm figuring that out right now.
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I feel like, yeah, I'm not really sure to be really honest.
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Is it deal breaker for the guy that doesn't like noodles?
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As long as, I mean, if he can tolerate me eating noodles, like you can watch, I can eat.
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Is there, are there people that would not tolerate someone?
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I feel like I've just been eating that as a kid and I've never gotten tired of it.
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If I were to live on an island myself, I can survive with just noodles.
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Uh, get myself out of a funk listening to music and having a dance party.
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We're talking, that's the crackhead energy you were talking about, I guess.
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Uh, I assume this is like your graduation look or what, what, what's it called?
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Dating me is like putting your playlist on shuffle and not wanting to skip a single song.
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So I was like, what's a cute little blurb to put in there?
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So, but, but what does it, what does that mean?
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Together we could pretend we understand what a Bitcoin is.
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I guess you've been running into a lot of crypto bros.
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I mean, when you look at him, he's had so much plastic surgery.
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I met, did I tell you I met Michael Jackson once?
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Well, I mean, you know about the allegations, right?
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Do you swipe yes or do you swipe no on Paisley?
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While those come in, Eric, if you want to pull up the next one.
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That was in San Francisco just a couple weeks ago.
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Anyway, I'm a very busy lady, but I'm always willing to make time for the people I care about.
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Follow my Instagram because I don't come on here.
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You should say that you don't or show it at least.
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So, the beginning there, I honestly don't even want to be here.
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It is a joke because I'm not really trying to date.
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I mean, so, actually, those are actually screenshots because I already had those screenshotted in
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And I got banned from Bumble for following every guy holding a fish.
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And messaging them because the girls have to message first.
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And telling them that I want to slap them with that fish.
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I sent, like, 10, 15 of those messages and then I got banned.
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Why do you need to post a picture with fish, man?
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Who here has an issue with guys with fish photos?
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But why do, like, those of you who have an issue with the fish photos, do you eat fish?
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No, I'm vegetarian, but I don't eat fish either.
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But, okay, can any of you articulate what precisely you find wrong with the fish pictures,
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I think that it's just because everybody does it.
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I feel like it's just, like, a real certain type of guy.
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When you see, like, three guys back to back with a fish photo, it's kind of like, is this
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My ex of six years used to be a competitive sports fisherman, and I hate them because
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You're a competitive sports fisherman because your ex was a competitive sports fisherman.
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I don't, I don't get the, okay, but I guess that, so your main quarrel with your guys' main
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quarrel with the fish pictures is too many dudes are posting fish pics.
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Of those of you who have issues with the fish pics, are y'all pictures really that much more
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My favorite way to spend a summer afternoon is having some drinks on the nice patio somewhere.
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I'm really good at, oh, this is you doing some stand-up?
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Oh, that's just me doing a show at the Blue Owl last week.
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While we do that, all suit chats will be displayed in stream overlay.
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Thank you for the five gifted memberships before the show started.
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We have Davon Jackson with the, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
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Any guy that's ever laughed at anything you said was just trying to smash.
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We have Red Misfit here with the $10 soup chat.
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Can you go around and ask if any of the ladies are bi-curious?
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I think girls are more pleasing to look at, but I'm not.
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It's looking at it's showing up as two on this.
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Just because men think you're a joke doesn't make you a comedian.
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Do you want to shoot shots back at my gangsterism?
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You'd probably run away like a little bitch if I walked up to you, honestly.
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And then we also have a question here from Stifler.
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Ask the ladies to rate themselves on the scale of a one to ten.
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I will say eight, but some days I will say solid ten.
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I'm going to say most of the time I feel that I am a ten, but I have my bad days too, and
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So the rest of your tens, is that your own self-assessment?
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I think everyone has a type, but we're all tens to someone.
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You could go based off personality or like self-conscious.
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Well, I'm not convinced if I included personality or any of that other stuff that you guys would
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I mean, Jenny, what would you, if we factored in your personality, what would you rate yourself?
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Don't read the chat, guys, because they're probably going to miss you.
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So those of you who rated yourself a 10, don't you think that's a bit of hubris to rate yourself
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I feel like you have to tell yourself you're a 10.
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Because if you tell yourself you're ugly all the time, you're going to feel ugly.
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So if you think you're a 10 and you act like a 10 and you look like a 10, then I mean.
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For example, like, so let's say you rated yourself a seven.
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And you can still be attractive at seven, but you can also acknowledge like, hey, I'm not.
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I didn't say I was the prettiest girl in the world, but I'm definitely a 10.
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But by putting yourself at a 10, that kind of does say that you might not be the prettiest,
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but like maybe there's another 10 that edges you out a little bit.
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We can all agree that there are differences in terms of physical attractiveness.
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For example, can you look at one man versus another man and say that man is exceptionally
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physically attractive and that other man over there is, say, average, for example.
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But I guess the question is, so if you're a 10, then that would suggest to me that there
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There might be women who are as attractive as you, who are also 10s, but none are more attractive
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There's not going to be somebody else like me, though.
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I guess I could ask the question like, what do you think other people would rate you as?
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But does your answer, do you think your answer would change if I asked you, what do you think
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if you got 100 men and 100 women who were brutally honest, who had no incentive or any reason
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to elevate or lower you, do you think it would be consistent with your self-evaluation of
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So, if you had, well, I don't really have to ask it, but I'm just trying to, I'm trying
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So, you said if 100 people rated you, would you still be your same number, right?
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Am I rating them from a hater's perspective or like a regular person?
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But, okay, so, but if you think that you're a 10, for example, a 10 in looks, then it's
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possible that you might, perhaps, perhaps you might be right, perhaps, and I'm not pointing
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this statement at any specific one of you, perhaps you might be right, but perhaps you
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You might have an unreasonable self-assessment of where you stand on the dating marketplace
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and the sexual marketplace and the relationship marketplace.
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So, if you think you're a 10, then do you think, then, that your standards for what you want
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or expect in a partner in terms of their physical attractiveness or other characteristics is
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I'm not going to land any supermodels anytime soon.
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It's just like I have a reasonable self-assessment of where I think I stand and I'm not dating.
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How bad do you want people who are out of your league?
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I mean, you could frame it as out of your league, sure.
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Okay, but if somebody is out of your league, there are other ways to get them.
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You're saying the most ugliest person can get the most attractive woman.
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So, for men, there are definitely ways in which we can overcome, let's say, perhaps our deficiencies
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in our physical appearance, our physical attractiveness.
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But, looks is a pretty big, at least the initial component, especially since most people are
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meeting online, looks is a pretty primary component.
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Especially for, I would say for, maybe as you start, for both men and women, as you start
00:56:50.120
getting a bit older, you start, looks is still important, I would say.
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But, you do start prioritizing some other things.
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But, like, you know, I think we have some 21-year-olds, whatever, 22-year-olds.
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I would probably say looks is number one for younger people.
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I don't know, and I enjoyed the time that I spent.
00:57:27.500
I don't know why everybody has to build all these walls and make everything so difficult.
00:57:34.700
Okay, so, I don't know where I was going with that.
00:57:37.580
So, you said that guys can make up for it in other ways, right?
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That's when, that's when that guy is in trouble.
00:57:55.240
Around this room, like she said, she's a comedian.
00:57:58.580
Like, everybody has that one particular, like, specialty or quality that they can, like, shine and just blow the room out of somebody.
00:58:28.940
Well, I was coming back to our previous conversation about what you bring to, what you bring to the table.
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But, like, okay, if we take that to its logical conclusion, then how do you discern?
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Can we all agree that some people are more attractive than other people?
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Like, Timothy Chalamet is more attractive than Danny DeVito.
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Like, if you asked us to rate ourselves 1 to 15, I would have said 15.
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What would you have rated yourself if it was out of 69?
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Does anyone want to – we've got makeup remover here.
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Does anyone's answer change if we use makeup remover?
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I have to take it off anyway when I get home, so –
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Okay, so of those of you who said you're a 10, that means you ought to be able to get with a guy who's a 10, correct?
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I want somebody that's just a little less than me.
01:00:38.460
So you guys want men, or I suppose women – well, I guess it's different for women, but you want men who are less attractive than you?
01:00:50.200
You don't want a guy who's more attractive than you?
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My – like, I've had – you should see all of my exes.
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I'd call him a 10, and he thinks he's not – he thinks he's like a 1, and I think he's amazing.
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Yeah, if you like them, you're going to think they're a 10.
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Eric, did we get another super chat from Davon Jackson, or did I – I don't think so.
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Your beauty is based on your confidence and inner belief.
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If you think you're a 10 and act like a 10, then you're a 10 on a scale of 1 to 30.
01:01:52.740
Okay, so my question sort of related to the rating yourself thing is what percentage of men would you say you find physically attractive?
01:02:07.900
What percent of men, like say on a day-to-day basis that you would see in person that you would say, I find him?
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He doesn't have to be a stunner, but just like if you think binary, yes, he's attractive.
01:02:18.340
And then also for dating apps, either currently or when you had it in the past, what percentage of men would you swipe yes on?
01:02:39.480
What percentage of men would you say you find attractive?
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Most – like, yeah, most of the time I don't find a lot of men a lot of attractive.
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I don't find anyone attractive, but that's because I – that goes with the demisexuality where I don't think that you're attractive until I know more about you.
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I'm not just looking at you and thinking that or not.
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And then on dating apps, I would say like a 2%.
01:03:39.960
Now, are we saying in person like physically attractive?
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And on the dating apps, probably like 2% to 5%.
01:04:04.000
But still, for most of you, a fairly small percentage of men that you find attractive both –
01:04:25.280
Do any of you find that a lot of men are not willing to commit to you?
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But you guys have never had experiences where guys want – you know how women will put guys in the friend zone?
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In other words, they'll keep sleeping with you, but they'll never commit.
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They'll never take you seriously, never be in a relationship.
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I'm young and she has lots of stuff going for herself.
01:06:12.040
Yeah, so are you finding it difficult to find men who are willing to commit to you?
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I feel like I'm not really looking for people to commit to me right now.
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I'd say yes and no because it's like the ones you don't want.
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And then the guys that you're, like, into that you're vibing with are, like, absolutely not.
01:06:45.820
It's the guys that you're into that don't want to commit to you.
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And it's, you know, the guys you don't want that want to commit real bad.
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So that kind of gets me to my point that I'm trying to arrive at.
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I know I'm kind of asking you to re-articulate what she already said.
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Like, the ones that you want don't really commit to you.
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Not to say they're, like, unattractive or anything.
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And they are the ones that are, like, die hard for you.
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So that kind of gets me to my point is when it comes to the rating thing, if you rate yourself a 10, then you're going to be potentially chasing after a top-tier guy, top 10, top 20% of men.
01:08:04.860
And kind of based on your guys' answers, you said of the guys you see on dating apps, you only – 5% of them, 10% of them that you find attractive.
01:08:12.780
So if you're all chasing, and it's not just you that feels this way about these men, of the 5% or 10% of men you find attractive, almost all the other women also find those men attractive.
01:08:26.820
So what's going to end up happening is they're going to have a huge amount of options.
01:08:32.200
So then for them, because men and women have different sexual strategies, they're not going to want to commit to you because they can just – they don't need to commit to you to get what they want.
01:08:45.680
Men are only as faithful as their options – well, sorry, I shouldn't say all men, not all men, but men are only as – some men are only as faithful as their options.
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And very attractive men, they have no – there's no incentive to commit.
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So that's where I think we see women getting into – not all women, some of you have said you don't have any issues with this, but you're going to encounter men.
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The men that want you, you don't want to commit to them.
01:09:18.080
So that's kind of where I'm getting at with the whole – if you don't have a reasonable self-assessment of where you stand in terms of your physical appearance, you are –
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because here's the thing, and men, we will sleep with women that we would never have a relationship with.
01:09:36.140
But most women, in order for you to sleep with a guy, typically you have to – like, he's at least, like, dateable.
01:09:46.400
He's got to be attractive enough for you to be willing to date or – to date him or to be in a relationship with him in order for you to sleep with him.
01:09:58.440
But men, we will sleep with women that we would not be in a relationship with.
01:10:04.720
Women don't – that's what I was about to say.
01:10:12.120
So women can't do what you just said a man can do.
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Because you pretty much said that a man can have sex with almost anybody and not date them.
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No, what I'm saying is is that a man can sleep with a woman, but he has no intention of having a relationship with her.
01:10:38.960
If we're looking for all the time, then we're fine with it.
01:10:41.220
Is that what women are broadly looking for, though, is to just –
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Like, are you happy just going from guy to guy?
01:11:01.680
But, no, but does – are you – I mean, a lot of you here have said you've had long-term relationships.
01:11:10.960
Are you more happy being single and getting passed around by a bunch of guys?
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Or are you happier in a relationship with someone that cares and loves you, cares about you and loves you?
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I think it now depends on your age because I think that when I was younger, I was like, I don't care.
01:11:36.180
I'm like, okay, it's time for me to figure my shit out, you know?
01:11:45.380
Some pure gold men is for your daily highlights.
01:11:52.800
About when you were younger versus compared to now at 28.
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Yeah, when I was younger, I guess I'd go and date and wouldn't really care and just, it was whatever.
01:12:04.980
And now as I'm getting older, I'm kind of, like, more serious about it.
01:12:08.420
And I'm, like, looking for more than just hookups and things like that.
01:12:20.980
So, anyway, do you want to answer the original question that I asked, though?
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Yeah, so, you said that, well, women can do that, too.
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Women, we can lower ourselves to the dogness of men just running through chicks.
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I've done that, like she said, when you were young.
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And then I'm like, nope, I put you in a friend zone.
01:12:56.280
That's where you're saying you're not crossing that line.
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I'm looking for somebody else to be more than just a friend.
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If I'm just, if you're my fuck buddy, you're going to stay the fuck buddy.
01:13:33.120
Well, I feel like that goes into me in my healing stage.
01:13:36.200
I feel like I'm not really looking for anybody right now.
01:13:39.640
I would love to have someone who I can love and, like, you know, but if I don't care.
01:13:56.340
I feel like it sounds so good to be all in love.
01:14:01.360
And, oh, yes, definitely want to be with that one person.
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But once you pour all your love into that cup and say you don't get it back,
01:14:07.700
you're going to be just as mad as you were when you was fucking on this person and this person.
01:14:20.120
It just ends up getting your feelings hurt at the end.
01:14:22.420
I guess it doesn't always have to end up that way.
01:14:38.220
I definitely prefer a stable, healthy relationship.
01:14:48.520
Men that ask you to be their girlfriend first are typically men that have a scarcity mindset
01:14:53.940
A man with an abundance of women will be in no rush for commitment.
01:14:58.940
And then we have Red Misfit with the $10 soup chat.
01:15:03.380
As a guy, I only find 10 to 15% of women I encounter to be attractive on a daily basis.
01:15:14.060
You are a bit of an outlier on this because they've done studies on this.
01:15:17.980
They've analyzed the data from the dating apps.
01:15:20.640
It's men rate women on a bell curve whereas women are very harsh grades of men's physical attractiveness.
01:15:29.860
I think it's something like women find 80% of men or women categorize 80% of men as unattractive
01:15:38.500
whereas men put women at about the like 50% of women are at about the average, right?
01:15:48.600
Honestly, like here and I mean, of the girls I see walking around in Isla Vista,
01:15:53.160
I would say like 80, 90% of them are physically attractive.
01:15:58.640
So actually, we can talk about that a little bit.
01:16:01.820
So do you think it's harder for men to be physically attractive or is it harder for women to be physically attractive?
01:16:12.020
Actually, no, let's start with you and then we'll go around this way.
01:16:18.920
I mean, sometimes, I mean, some men are just like just naturally like rolling out of bed,
01:16:23.400
just beautiful and some men have to kind of brush their hair straight.
01:16:27.400
Generally, generally speaking, generally speaking.
01:16:29.840
Yeah, so generally speaking, I'd say women have to put in more effort.
01:16:39.340
Well, they don't, yeah, well, they don't have to, but most of the time they do.
01:16:49.480
I was watching something the other day and they were talking about how, wow, that was real bad.
01:17:21.060
I would say women would spend more time on getting ready than guys do.
01:17:33.300
Because we have, like she said, a lot of different avenues we can go.
01:17:43.300
I would say for women, it's even harder for men.
01:17:48.440
I think it's harder for men, but because, you know, I think I heard something about, you
01:17:54.120
know, some guy was saying, well, all I can do is cut my hair.
01:17:57.360
Like women can go put their eyelashes on and do their makeup and do all this to make themselves
01:18:04.280
But I feel like also if you think about it, like women doing all this stuff to go, whoa,
01:18:21.860
I smoked literally right before we started and I can, I'm pretty good.
01:18:34.280
Hey, we'll have you guys continue on with this.
01:18:36.720
Eric, in the podcast folder in Dropbox, if you go to podcast infographics, there's three
01:18:52.160
If you can pull all of those up in a tab on the other side.
01:19:00.980
Harder for men or women to be physically attractive?
01:19:04.280
I would say men, because you're kind of out of luck, like you don't have many, you can
01:19:10.160
cut your hair, you can shave, you can not shave, but other than that, like you're screwed.
01:19:18.060
So with women, they're always like, oh, her stomach's too thick or she got too much makeup
01:19:25.500
But for a girl, they're like, oh, I like me a chubby nigga or stuff like that.
01:19:30.260
Like your imperfections are making you cuter where like a woman is really going to try
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And you're still going to be like, oh, well, you put on too much makeup.
01:19:40.900
I think that women try really hard to be a specific man's type.
01:19:48.220
Whereas men are like, they're going to be whoever they are.
01:19:50.640
Wait, women, women try really hard to be a specific men's type?
01:19:56.980
Like if you're interested in a man, like a lot of times women are like, okay, I like this
01:20:00.740
dude, oh, but he likes girls that do this or their hair like this.
01:20:03.980
I think that's borderline personality disorder.
01:20:08.580
I think, I mean, I think it's actually men that shift who they are to adhere to women's
01:20:19.200
So you're saying women change because if you ask women, do you wear makeup for men or for
01:20:30.160
There are a lot of women that have plastic surgery because some look just like me.
01:20:35.020
Then all of a sudden, now they got a booty, they got breasts.
01:20:37.540
Like, and right now, if you look, everybody's going to this volumptuous type instead of
01:20:46.220
It's just either you take me as I am or just fuck off and go somewhere else.
01:20:53.380
I mean, I've seen some guys with some muscle implants that look so bad.
01:20:57.120
Well, that's an interesting point because I would say, to be fair, I guess it's not as
01:21:03.380
widespread, like muscle implants and shit is not as widespread as like fake breasts or
01:21:10.440
But I would say women with plastic surgery is much better tolerated by men than men who
01:21:21.980
And like, if a dude had fucking calf implants, you'd be like fucking clowning on this guy.
01:21:26.800
You'd be like, you're like, you'd think he's a joke, you know?
01:21:31.200
Whereas, to be fair, if a girl has a BBL, I'm not a fan, just going to say.
01:21:51.040
Honestly, I think there are some goofball men that are like, well, the bigger, the better,
01:22:04.500
No, there's no such thing as a good-looking BBL.
01:22:22.140
It's like one of the most dangerous plastic surgeries that you can get.
01:22:29.360
Like, a handful will come out and say, yes, they're dangerous, but everybody else is making
01:22:45.020
And they expect the average woman to look like that.
01:23:33.960
I think if I had the money, I'd feel like I would like the option to be able to do it.
01:23:45.900
If you do it just for yourself, you want to be...
01:23:52.440
You're the first man that's actually said that.
01:24:00.940
Because most women don't say that a woman is doing it for her...
01:24:09.940
And the men sit there and like, oh, yeah, she's doing it because she wants to look good
01:24:13.920
But I really feel like it's a self-esteem issue.
01:24:17.240
Because if it was not a self-esteem issue, you wouldn't get it.
01:24:21.220
There was a time where you looked just like me or looked like yourself or like you.
01:24:25.060
But now you're trying to look like everybody else in a magazine.
01:24:29.100
So I just feel like it's a self-esteem issue and men are not...
01:24:39.620
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of an interesting dilemma, right?
01:24:47.560
So if you're a woman's advocate, and you could consider that like a feminist, right?
01:24:53.560
But if you're a woman's advocate, you have two paths, right?
01:25:01.160
On one hand, you can say women should not be pursuing these plastic surgeries because
01:25:11.720
There's no medical indication to get pads put in your ass.
01:25:15.980
Like there's no medical reason to do it besides cosmetic aesthetic reasons.
01:25:22.160
Like for example, there are some scenarios where if a woman had breast cancer, for example,
01:25:27.240
and there's like some unevenness, like maybe they had to remove her breast, that could be
01:25:33.000
a reasonable scenario where a woman gets breast implants, right?
01:25:36.920
Because she feels very self-conscious because one, there's no breast there, and then the
01:25:43.740
But overwhelmingly, breast implants are done for cosmetic reasons.
01:25:47.880
But so there's a dilemma between what is the more women empowerment position to take?
01:25:54.700
Is it women should not get plastic surgery because of the financial component, because
01:26:02.280
Or is it, no, we should empower women to have free choices to fucking mutilate their bodies
01:26:14.040
And so anyways, I'm kind of ranting on that, but...
01:26:18.380
I mean, I feel like you could be dragging it because some girls are into that.
01:26:22.260
Like there are people that look crazy and they just keep going, keep going, keep going because
01:26:36.200
If a girl has plastic surgery, it could be fake lips.
01:26:42.280
If she has fake lips, fake tits, fake butt, BBL is fucking atrocious.
01:26:52.900
And even if the difference is she had, for example, flat chest and now she has fake tits,
01:26:59.360
I would prefer a girl who had like a flat chest over a girl with perfect fake tits.
01:27:12.240
I feel like you don't even need to be inserting plastic.
01:27:15.160
It could be an S-curve, which is just a transfer of fat.
01:27:23.140
But most women who get breast implants get like, what is it?
01:27:30.460
And then at the same time, I see a lot of men be tricked by plastic surgery where they
01:27:35.340
think that's all natural and it isn't, but it's just a notion.
01:27:40.100
And yeah, that does raise the other thing when it comes to dating.
01:27:57.640
For example, if you're wearing a shirt, you might not, a guy might not be able to, listen,
01:28:06.480
But if she's wearing like something where you can't really, you can tell she has big
01:28:14.940
That is to some degree misrepresenting your appearance.
01:28:25.580
No, but like, for example, like, let's say down the road, if you want to have kids,
01:28:31.900
So we judge people based off of like their physical traits.
01:28:39.500
If someone starts shaping their jawline, I think that's a better one because that's
01:28:44.140
harder to tell if someone's like changed their jaw.
01:28:47.000
So if someone's just got like a fucked up jawline, for example, and they get it fixed, right?
01:28:58.600
I could tell you that I had a messed up jawline, but now I look so good and you appreciate that.
01:29:12.500
I mean, obviously the, you know, having children, that's something that comes much further down
01:29:17.680
Wait, wait, I already talked about that, but you couldn't tell I had a daughter.
01:29:29.000
No, it's not a fit check because people are shocked.
01:29:36.420
No, pregnancy does not have to mess you up like they say.
01:29:41.660
I'm saying like if a woman had like a, you know, or a guy too, a guy could have a fucked
01:29:48.420
But you could come here with your beard and be like, oh, I'm the handsomest man.
01:29:52.020
And then you shave it off and you look like a turtle, you know?
01:30:09.260
Are you saying and then like you're like somebody's baby's born and then they're like, oh shit,
01:30:28.120
I don't know if it was China, but a man divorced his wife because she never disclosed to him
01:30:37.660
that she got all this plastic surgery and he was upset when the kids were fucking ugly.
01:30:49.000
Also, can you pull up the, were you able to pull up the OKC?
01:30:53.420
So just, just really quickly going back to our previous conversation.
01:31:13.760
So this is, this is kind of the difference that's going on on dating apps.
01:31:21.200
So if you have men who are rating women, let's say a bit more fairly, a bit more evenly,
01:31:25.260
and you have women rating men like this, what does that mean for the dating marketplace?
01:31:34.120
Does that mean, and I think this is what's going to happen or what, what is happening
01:31:38.820
is if you want to be with a really top tier guy, you're going to have to share him.
01:31:47.960
You might be the main chick, but he's going to have side pieces.
01:31:51.640
I mean, if you could come to an agreement, there is like open relationships.
01:31:59.480
What if he wants it closed on your end, but he wants it open on his?
01:32:07.600
OK, question on that, and then we'll get to the, Eric, if you can keep searching for
01:32:12.040
that like plastic surgery man divorces woman ugly baby thing.
01:32:16.480
Um, shit, what was the, um, what were we talking about?
01:32:25.660
So let's say, think of like your ideal man, tall, good looking, funny, charismatic, confident,
01:32:35.040
He, all the things you want in the partner, he's them.
01:32:38.800
You're going to be his main chick, but here's the caveat.
01:32:50.100
And honestly, like, if you're giving it out to other people, you start to lack inside.
01:32:56.920
So if I can't get it from you, I'm going to go get it from somebody else, I guess.
01:33:06.680
I don't know what's wrong with you and what made you think that I was going to be okay
01:33:10.380
sitting over here, feeling the way, and like, what?
01:33:16.320
Wait, how frequently are you trying to, you know, like three times a day or what?
01:33:35.100
Okay, so the question is, your ideal man, super attractive, meets all the things that
01:33:41.660
you want in a partner, but you have to be loyal to him, but he'll, you're the main chick.
01:33:49.520
He's going to wife you, give you kids, but he will, he's not going to be faithful.
01:33:57.340
Let's see, he's not just like, out there all the fucking time hooking up with other
01:34:11.680
Like, if you're doing it here and there, why can't we have fun here and there?
01:34:18.320
Um, so my, my, that guy that I'm on a break with right now, my ex-boyfriend, we actually
01:34:24.560
did, uh, we wouldn't do that, so like, but I'll bring girls home to him.
01:34:35.080
Um, no, because I feel like that's just not how I am.
01:34:39.220
Meets all your metrics, very attractive guy, takes care of you.
01:35:00.200
I'd say no, because how embarrassing, if you can't do the same dirt, like, they're just
01:35:05.600
Like, oh, people just keep running back to you.
01:35:10.340
At that point, everybody else knows your business, too, and it's like, no.
01:35:50.520
Chinese Man Su's wife for being ugly wins $120,000.
01:35:56.840
Because there's, like, prosthetic makeup that people be putting on their face to look different.
01:36:06.720
He won the lawsuit after the couple's daughter was born.
01:36:14.860
That's kind of brutal, though, to say about your own kid.
01:36:16.480
But if she could afford all that plastic surgery, why she can't get her face kicked?
01:36:20.920
Because, I mean, you have to think, though, like, one of the reasons why people want an attractive partner is so you can have attractive children.
01:36:32.940
So how does he know that the unattractiveness didn't come from his side?
01:36:43.720
My mom always said if I got my dad's nose, she'd pay for my plastic surgery.
01:36:50.640
We have Davon Jackson here with the $10 Soup Chat.
01:36:57.800
But are these women really arguing to sleep with men they don't want to be with?
01:37:03.540
Would you want your daughter hopping from D to D?
01:37:15.260
Or would you want her to be like a relationship chick?
01:37:19.440
Just like, you know, only hooked, like slept with a guy within the confines of a relationship.
01:37:31.860
I want her to do whatever she wants as long as she's happy and safe.
01:37:40.940
If you're going to be safe, if you're going to become a sex worker, be safe about it.
01:37:45.680
I would just say be safe and be smart about it.
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Don't do shit that I used to do when I was younger.
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If she came to you and she was like, mom, I want to be a street walker.
01:37:58.560
So she wanted to do OnlyFans or, you know, stuff like that.
01:38:02.340
But I mean, okay, when I think sex worker, I lean more towards like prostitution.
01:38:16.320
I want her to fuck people for free that break her heart, you know?
01:38:23.140
I mean, if you stay with the same boring old person that you forced yourself to think
01:38:30.300
Like, say you got in a relationship in middle school and y'all dated until high school and
01:38:37.640
And now you're out of this relationship and you're like, oh, I only like doing what he
01:38:47.660
Like, after you broke up with them, you started talking to this person and this person and
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this person and now you know how to play that type of nigga and that type of girl.
01:39:09.540
Ava don't be fucking everybody, but she talks to a lot of people.
01:39:18.780
Your daughter, do you want her to be a hoe or a housewife?
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I think it's definitely about like if you're safe and you're happy.
01:39:30.580
Like, and I feel like I would want to know about it kind of a thing.
01:39:35.960
Okay, for example, let's say you are aware of your daughter.
01:39:47.420
But okay, do you see your response to that, right?
01:39:50.400
And I mean, some women be putting up those numbers at 19, let's just say.
01:40:03.500
Like here's the thing, every time, even if you wear a condom, even if she...
01:40:07.500
But even if she's on birth control, even if you wear a condom, like that doesn't...
01:40:13.540
As a mother, you could sit there and you could teach your daughter every way to be a housewife
01:40:20.840
And if she decides, fuck that, and she want to go be a little floozy, at least we know
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that we taught her what she could do when she's ready.
01:40:31.600
I'm not watching you with my spy goggles 24 hours a day.
01:40:36.980
Yeah, well, certainly people have agency, they're independent, they can make their own
01:40:41.200
But you can certainly, especially your own children, you can attempt to guide them.
01:40:45.700
For example, like, if my child came to me, my future child came to me and said,
01:40:53.360
Dad, I want to get the whites of my eyes tattooed.
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I would say, well, you're free to do that, but don't fucking do it.
01:41:10.740
I've had my parents say, like, if you do something, I'm going to disown you.
01:41:17.340
Like, I wouldn't say that, but I would probably not approve.
01:41:24.520
I think we need to bring back child disownment.
01:41:38.640
I feel like a lot of it is also teaching your child, when you break up with someone,
01:41:46.700
oh, you don't need to go through this phase of maybe doing things,
01:41:50.780
because I hear that a lot, like, oh, we had a bad breakup,
01:41:55.400
Like, you don't have to deal with it like that.
01:42:09.640
If you were privy to the fact, I don't know how you'd find out,
01:42:12.360
maybe she told you, maybe she was just fucking out there doing her...
01:42:27.320
No, but I mean, when she's an adult, right, and she's like, yo, mom,
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Sit down, and I'm going to have to sit down and talk to her.
01:42:43.640
Because it seems like the world is getting more crazy and crazier every day,
01:42:51.540
Well, I mean, it's her body, so she has to choose whatever she wants,
01:42:57.840
but I will be with her to teach her about everything.
01:43:10.980
If she's a hoe or something, I would like her to tell me.
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I don't want to know about she's been doing that from other people.
01:43:23.040
Like, I want my daughter to tell me first so I can see if I can help her
01:43:32.520
But, I mean, I don't have control over her body, so she has her own choices.
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If she wants to be that, I have no other choice to support her
01:43:48.260
I agree with what she's saying, but, I mean, I think that everybody,
01:43:52.140
nobody's going to sit there and be like, yeah, I want my kid to be a hoe.
01:43:54.960
Like, I mean, you're always going to be like, of course,
01:43:58.180
I want my child to be the best person that they can be.
01:44:01.400
But, at the same time, kids kind of, like, they learn by experience
01:44:05.680
and they're going to do whatever they want to do at some point.
01:44:09.240
So, the only thing you can do is be there for your kid.
01:44:15.600
Let's think about all the bad things that you went through.
01:44:17.600
Why do you think that this is the way that you want to do it?
01:44:21.780
Like, I feel like we don't just have to call you a hoe
01:44:23.960
because you went and fucked on three people or five people in an hour.
01:44:27.740
I don't know, but 40 people, like, I don't know.
01:44:39.100
Like, why are you looking for a connection in so many people?
01:44:51.060
You can't disown your child for the trauma you inflicted on them.
01:44:56.440
I think people who jump from relationship to relationship are, like, just as concerning
01:45:02.600
because some people just do that as, like, a rebound thing
01:45:06.180
and then it's a never-ending cycle because they don't take the time to be single
01:45:45.960
Okay, just, and is the dad still in the picture or no?
01:46:02.240
I'm not about to run out to no man and pay no child support.
01:46:08.700
Just curious, how many of you, whose parents are like still together?
01:46:13.460
Who has parents who are still together, still married?
01:46:35.140
All right, let's do these next soup chats, and then we have a video to react to, too.
01:46:41.400
Eric, can you pull up the Burger King photo really quick?
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There's Mike Davis, our patron saint, our Burger King, King of Kings, Heart of Hearts.
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You know it's all love, but you wouldn't know what to do with all that ass, so your opinion is invalid.
01:47:40.940
How would I, in what scenario would I be forced to get a BBL?
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See here, like, okay, I like, don't get me wrong.
01:47:58.940
Would you say you're more of a boobs or an ass guy?
01:48:02.560
But, like, I feel like it's less about the size and more about the proportions and the shape.
01:48:19.220
So, I don't even know if you're from the French-speaking part of Canada, but whatever.
01:48:22.680
So, are the women saying they put makeup and do plastic surgery to please men?
01:48:35.340
Like, if I wake up in the morning and say I'm having a bad day, what I could do is I could go in the shower and I could make myself feel pretty.
01:48:44.420
Just because I made myself feel better, that made my whole day better.
01:48:47.680
And it wasn't because some nigga told me, oh, you look bad as fuck.
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I'm glad that I made myself feel that way in the mirror, you know.
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I think this is the first time I'm seeing you in the chat.
01:49:08.520
To be fair, if a woman got some augmentation plastic, she has low self-esteem, doesn't want kids, and is for the streets respectfully.
01:49:19.880
Well, in your opinion, I think you're from the streets.
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You're in your mom's basement right now, aren't you?
01:49:44.580
I might ruffle some feathers with this one, but here are four major red flags that all men notice in women.
01:49:54.480
You hear a lot of women in the dating market saying when the right man comes along, you will not have to try.
01:49:59.300
And although it's true that you won't have to try too hard, there's a difference between not trying too hard and not trying at all.
01:50:06.000
You don't have to come off desperate, but no man wants to be pursuing a woman that they feel is not giving them the same kind of energy in return.
01:50:12.360
Number two, unrealistic financial expectations.
01:50:16.360
Somewhere in the modern dating market, we have communicated to women that it is totally acceptable to expect a man to pay for their hair or their nails for a first date,
01:50:23.780
or to even go as far as to ask a man they barely even know to help them with their bills.
01:50:27.480
Feeling entitled to lavish treatment or financial assistance from a man that you barely even know that's still trying to get to know you is an extremely unrealistic expectation.
01:50:37.140
And social media has done a really bad job of making modern women think that that behavior is normal.
01:50:42.600
There's nothing wrong with wanting a man who's financially solid, but no man wants to feel like they're your walking ATM.
01:50:48.560
Number three, immaturity and uncontrolled emotions.
01:50:52.000
Immaturity, uncontrolled emotions, acting crazy, all of that has been rebranded recently.
01:50:58.060
And there are a lot of social media channels out there that actually glamorize being toxic and encourage women to engage in this kind of behavior.
01:51:04.980
When good men get a sense of that behavior, you lashing out, blocking their number, cursing them out,
01:51:10.560
they either just stop taking you seriously from that point forward or they don't tolerate it altogether.
01:51:15.200
Because you're coming across to him more so like a child who's going to temper tantrum,
01:51:19.760
then you are a woman who wants to be taken seriously as an adult.
01:51:23.060
Number four, probably the most controversial one of all, being too masculine.
01:51:27.540
A lot of women will shy away from being feminine now because of the negative connotation that's associated with that in modern society.
01:51:33.740
Whether you like it or not, the reality is that men like feminine women.
01:51:37.640
Now this is the part in the story where a lot of women will say,
01:51:40.020
well it takes the right man to bring out that feminine energy.
01:51:42.440
Although I do think that there are some points of that that are true, overall I don't really agree with that.
01:51:46.760
I think that as a woman, you either embrace your feminine energy and you walk in that,
01:51:51.860
There are so many women in the modern dating market who have hardened themselves to steal
01:51:55.900
because of the negative experiences that they've had with men.
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Blocking your feminine energy is often a defense mechanism for a lot of women
01:52:03.920
But don't let the experiences of the past turn you bitter.
01:52:06.520
The reality is, ladies, that there are two sides to every coin.
01:52:09.440
And if we're going to talk about the bad traits of men,
01:52:11.640
we also have to acknowledge and take accountability for the bad traits we have in ourselves.
01:52:26.420
I have something to say about the last statement of the masculine woman.
01:52:39.120
I think a lot of the time, being a powerful woman can be mistaken as you're masculine.
01:52:45.340
And I would say that they didn't surround themselves with powerful women.
01:52:59.180
Can you pull up a Zuby tweet about strong women?
01:53:06.260
And I want to get your reaction to his tweet on this.
01:53:14.000
I'm saying that sometimes power can be mistaken as masculinity.
01:53:23.840
And so men are not used to powerful women or is that...
01:53:32.180
They haven't been exposed to that type of woman.
01:53:54.180
Being physically stronger also plays into how men feel that they have more power over women
01:54:03.000
So a woman standing her ground might be looked at as masculine because they're not used to
01:54:11.180
And when you say stand your ground, what do you mean?
01:54:17.880
Not argumentative, but having your own opinion.
01:54:21.680
Not being submissive, basically, because that could also be like femininity is also submissive
01:54:33.940
But would you agree that most men want women who are submissive or find submission...
01:54:57.720
I have one, but it's the graphs that you pulled up.
01:55:15.360
If you just search like Zuby tweet, strong women, you should be able to find it.
01:55:42.660
So men are not intimidated by strong women, but far too many women believe that being aggressive, rude, and generally unpleasant makes them strong.
01:55:54.280
It's not that we can't handle you, but that we'd prefer not to in light of better options.
01:56:05.700
I think there's definitely a difference between just being sure in what you stand for and getting that point across and then being over the top and just rude.
01:56:21.320
Like say you had an opinion and I was talking to you about how that made me feel in this tone of voice rather than this tone of voice and I just don't understand what you're talking about.
01:56:34.180
You know, like you're going to say, oh, she's being crazy, all this, but I was getting the same point across just in a different tone of voice.
01:56:48.780
So does anyone else want to respond to that tweet that we just saw?
01:56:58.400
And then even like they, that even like takes account of it for like going out at a restaurant and being snotty to like the waitstaff and stuff like that too.
01:57:06.780
Like guys don't want to take a girl on a date that aren't going to be polite.
01:57:10.020
So just be, have kind human decency and be polite, you know, when people.
01:57:19.480
Ginny, I know you're dying to respond to the Zoobie.
01:57:32.440
It's, it's very different when you're trying to be.
01:57:43.000
I think, yeah, there's definitely a difference between like me trying to be rude and aggressive versus like, no, this is, this is what I want.
01:58:00.060
So we just got some people coming, coming, going here.
01:58:08.880
By the way, I just want to add like, I'd rather no ass.
01:58:28.480
Let me just get the soup chat and then we'll, let's see.
01:58:41.280
Just saw their answers to my daughter question.
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Would you look at someone, if you didn't have the radar, or if you see somebody with big
01:59:00.080
ass or big tits, but then you find out that they have surgery, wouldn't you already looked
01:59:07.500
Well, I mean, so the BBL, for example, that's usually apparent.
01:59:13.380
Like, the proportions are all fucked up if they have a BBL.
01:59:38.020
I just feel like the type of girl that gets a BBL, like, it's just not, we're not, she
01:59:46.960
Like, because I'm, that's just not my type of girl.
01:59:57.140
But like, I think when it comes to plastic surgery, there does seem to be,
02:00:01.980
I've noticed some personality traits and behavioral patterns that seem consistent among those who
02:00:12.260
And, and it does tend to vary if you, you know, BBLs, that's a certain type of woman.
02:00:19.380
Fake tits, that's kind of a certain type of woman.
02:00:22.380
And like, for example, um, a girl who studies STEM at university, who's like studying biology
02:00:32.040
or whatever it may be, she's not, she doesn't have fake tits.
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I don't know where I'm fucking going with this.
02:00:38.740
There's probably, I don't know where I'm going with this, but I guess like the type of girl
02:00:44.740
I'm attracted to, I guess is more real, so to speak.
02:00:49.200
And I'm like, it comes with a certain personality type for you to.
02:00:53.900
So, and also one, I do think, and again, there's degrees to plastic surgery.
02:01:00.800
So, and Kiana, I hope I'm not offending you by expressing this.
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Like, for example, I think fake, fake lips are fairly tame compared to a BBL.
02:01:12.740
That's a, a BBL is a much more invasive surgery.
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So you can barely tell that I even have mine done.
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They're actually just a tiny bit bigger than they are naturally.
02:01:38.400
I don't want to look like a stupid blue face, but I need it a little bit more because when
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I'd smile, my upper lip would literally disappear and I'd be like, like this.
02:01:46.480
So you guys want me to fucking, let me tell you something.
02:01:55.240
In the same way with like breast implants, there's smaller ones and then there's some
02:02:02.120
But yeah, so there's degrees to the plastic surgery.
02:02:04.440
I think BBL, that's worse, so to speak, than a girl who gets like a rhinoplasty or who
02:02:20.320
You were more likely to look at or be attracted to a girl with a big ass if you didn't have
02:02:26.480
that radar as opposed to, you would look at them more than you would look at like flat
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Every friend that I've had, when seeing them, it's very obvious.
02:02:45.180
It depends on the doctor and also the body shape because most of them, you will not see
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You will not even notice because they're thick.
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But it depends also on the person if they get like a big booty that you can see that
02:03:04.000
And some of them, they would just say like, oh, it's natural because she has big hips.
02:03:11.220
I think the human eye is very adept at detecting unnatural, what the fuck?
02:03:25.360
I'm going to go home and all of those augmentations are going to pop up.
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I think the human eye is quite adept at detecting things that look a bit uncanny.
02:03:36.060
And so, like you can tell, BBL for sure, fake tits, that sometimes can be a bit harder
02:03:46.020
So, but yeah, I just don't think I would be attracted to her in the first place.
02:03:51.360
And I do think, especially with the more invasive plastic surgeries, fake tits, BBL,
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I do think that it's communicating something about you as a person.
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I'm making assessment about who you are as a person.
02:04:07.140
I'm probably going to think that you're either, you're, there's vanity there, excessive vanity.
02:04:12.460
I'm going to think that you might have, I'm honestly going to think you might have mental
02:04:18.720
And hey, like, that's fine, but like, I don't want to date with someone who's coming with
02:04:25.300
What if your wife or whatever, if in the future decides to get a BBL, would you divorce her?
02:04:31.820
There's, I can't imagine a woman that I would marry would ever be inclined, like the type
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of woman that I'm attracted to would ever be inclined to get a BBL.
02:04:43.160
I just, I, it, it's so, unless she got fucking hit in the head, like there's no way a girl
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that I'm going to be attracted to, I think would want to get a BBL.
02:05:07.660
Would you be like, okay, I guess I have to love you.
02:05:11.460
Like, well, first off, I don't think men should get married, but that's another, we can, we
02:05:25.380
So, uh, let's say, can I change it if it's my girlfriend?
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So if my girlfriend gets a BBL, I'm going to not be attracted to her anymore.
02:05:45.080
Like, in the same way, like, and I'm sure women feel this same way too.
02:05:50.920
If men, there's something substantial that changed about them.
02:05:53.880
I don't know if maybe if they gained a hundred pounds, you might not be as attracted to them
02:05:57.640
anymore, but like, physical attraction is important.
02:06:05.080
If you're no longer physically attracted to your partner, it's going to make sex difficult.
02:06:11.700
Um, of course, I acknowledge, like, as you age, you know, you, your physical attractiveness
02:06:21.840
But if you make, if you start making like crazy changes to your appearance, then yeah,
02:06:30.940
that, that might, that might lead to the downfall of the relationship.
02:06:34.520
Like, there's definitely guys out there that, for example, if you were dating a guy and you
02:06:40.860
decided to shave your head, your hair, you know, maybe he has a really strong preference
02:06:47.360
He might have, he might, he might say, hey, listen, I love you.
02:06:52.000
But like, I don't, I don't want that because I wouldn't be attracted.
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Like, it would, I would lose attraction for you.
02:07:05.880
I mean, I was going to say there could be scenarios with like cancer or something and
02:07:13.100
But if you just shaved your head, it could be, I mean, it certainly could be grounds for
02:07:18.500
a guy to break up with you because he might not be attracted to you anymore.
02:07:22.160
I don't necessarily think it's, I mean, both men and women, I mean, both men and women
02:07:27.220
are attracted, have physical attraction triggers.
02:07:34.700
I just don't, I don't think I would ever, it's.
02:07:42.360
No, that's not, no, I've, I think, by the way, I don't, I actually, for me personally,
02:07:49.100
I was speaking more so for most men because I think for most men, if their girlfriend
02:07:52.640
shaved their head, I think a lot of men would probably be like, they might not break up
02:07:56.460
with a girl, but they'd probably be like, I think you're less attractive than you were
02:08:01.140
Me personally, I do think girls are more attractive with long hair, but I would date a girl with
02:08:06.500
Like that wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker for me.
02:08:09.840
And if I, if I love my girl and she wanted to shave her head, it probably wouldn't be for
02:08:14.340
me, that wouldn't be a deal breaker, but I definitely know guys that I think that might
02:08:19.720
So, but BBL, yeah, that's, what, only BBL Brian wants is, oh, yeah, actually, we should
02:08:31.220
Wait, okay, so, did I get caught up on, hold on, let me do super chats and then I'll answer
02:08:37.160
Uh, so, did, we did this one, uh, wait, Eric, are you able to highlight the membership
02:08:51.860
Oh, it took you so long to come up with that comeback.
02:08:55.500
A woman passed her prim, prim, I think he said, I assume he means prime, 28 and up, is
02:09:03.680
basically a guy who lives in his mom's basement to where she became the man she wanted.
02:09:22.740
Uh, Eric, were you able to highlight the membership?
02:09:26.480
Um, Elder Scrolls, thank you for, uh, the membership, man.
02:09:32.680
Um, you know what, Elder Scrolls 333, I'm not going to lie.
02:09:42.940
Wait, Eric, is the, I think we have the, my nonprofit organization pulled up.
02:09:54.400
Um, so guys, please support my nonprofit organization, the American Network Against Labia Plasty or
02:10:02.580
Anal for short, where a grassroots nonprofit movement to empower women who may feel self-conscious
02:10:10.380
if they have a large labia, you know, because some women, they, they like will get surgery
02:10:17.540
talking, talking, talking about plastic surgery, they will, labia, labia, place, plasty.
02:10:25.920
If they have an Audi, they're going to chop it off like that.
02:10:33.140
And, you know, I think we should be empowering women to accept their presentation.
02:10:44.320
It hurts me that, like, I don't think we should be shaming genitalia for both men or women.
02:11:00.800
Like, you know, you're shaming that guy because he, he had two hands.
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I'm positive because I looked for it because somebody else asked.
02:11:15.920
But, you know, guys, if they're small in the bulge, I don't think we should shame them.
02:11:19.420
And if a woman has an Audi, we shouldn't be pouty.
02:11:26.540
But, no, because you hear guys say, like, beef curtains, wizard sleeve, Arby's.
02:11:40.840
Where you have all those names for all the ladies.
02:11:43.200
Well, it's unfortunate that women are, you know.
02:12:01.680
Do you guys have a preference for a labia preference?
02:12:43.600
I do look, say like I'm looking at pictures of vaginas.
02:12:47.980
I'm going to look at this one and be like, damn, that's a really pretty pussy.
02:12:51.360
And I'm like, for the most part, I'm like, okay, when it's all like clean and cute, like
02:12:59.940
I don't, I don't think that I would prefer eating yours more than this other pretty pussy
02:13:25.040
James is talking some mad shit about me in there.
02:13:29.880
Well, and here's the other thing that kind of rubs me the wrong way.
02:13:32.640
Guys wrongly think that if a woman has slept with a lot of men, that that changes the labia.
02:13:48.180
I know being a young girl, I definitely had my fair share of times looking up a vaginal
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Hey, can we make it all cute and perfect like it looks like in the movies?
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If you need convincing not to get a labia place D, my DMs are open.
02:14:11.720
I'm going to tell your mom if you're not nice to me.
02:14:20.200
Did anyone else kind of raise an eyebrow when I said, I don't think men should get married?
02:14:42.160
Is it because like an older guy could potentially be better or more in their prime as an old
02:14:49.900
You know, like, like for a woman, they always say she's passing her prime when she's younger,
02:14:55.080
but a young man, nobody wants to be with no clown ass young boy.
02:14:59.000
Like if you're starting to act mature, are you saying like an older man is primer?
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You're younger than a younger man, and that's why a marriage would be a loss?
02:15:10.900
Well, I mean, I, to some degree, maybe age plays some factor in it, but men just lose
02:15:21.980
Okay, so first off, and I think this first stat, women can also look at this and be like,
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So for both men and women, that's, uh, odds aren't looking great.
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Eight, now here's some of the shit for why men should not get married.
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90% of child support payments go from men to women.
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97% of alimony and spousal support payments go from men to women.
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Because the simple fact is the woman provides the household entirely.
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She's going to cook, she's going to clean, she's going to have a job if she's able to
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have the job, where the man usually has no responsibility, only just work.
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It's not significant as to the household doing for the woman.
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No, no, if you go back to biblical days for Adam and Eve, a woman's place is in the house.
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So it is only fair and it's only right for the man to provide child support and alimony
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Because at the end of the day, the children are with her 24-7 while the man is the bread
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Well, I mean, they wouldn't be providing child support and alimony payments while they're
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But she's not going to really have a full-time job.
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Because she's going to have to take care of the kids.
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She's going to have to hold down the household with a guy.
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He's only going to get the kids, what, Tuesday, Thursdays, only whenever he wants to?
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While she still has to figure her child care out?
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Like, there's a lot more responsibility on a woman than a man, unless he has full custody.
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Is that, let's say you marry a guy and maybe you've been married for three years and there's
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different, I'm not an expert in the laws, but the longer you're with someone, I think
02:17:34.680
the longer you would get alimony or spousal support, sometimes you can get that for, it's
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calculated, or sometimes you just get it for life.
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I'm not, and it varies by state and there's all kinds of factors, right?
02:17:47.800
But let's say you're a woman and have any of you been bored in a relationship?
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None of you have, but have any of you broken up with a guy?
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But maybe, sure, there's other factors, but here's the thing.
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You have a document that now says, well, you can walk away with no repercussions and you
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get this amount of money, you get half a shit, you start, it starts incentivizing you towards
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wanting the divorce, so the way the marriage laws are set up currently in the West, whether
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you're a man or a woman, speaking outside of marriage here, you should never sign a contract
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with someone who is rewarded for breaking that contract.
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And it happens to be the case that when it comes to marriage, whoever is not the breadwinner
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in that relationship is rewarded for breaking the contract, financially.
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And people, you know, look, marriage, does anyone know the vows that they say when you
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So people's words in today's day and age mean nothing.
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But till death do us part, that, that's not just romantic shit.
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So, it's clear to me that when people are getting married and they say, till death do
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And part of that is, I think that's a societal thing.
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People are, there's a whole bunch of reasons why.
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And the marriage laws, as they are currently written, suck.
02:20:14.440
Like, there's literally a whole show where you meet somebody behind a wall for fucking
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seven days and then you see if you want to get married.
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Like, people are definitely crumbling the way that marriage is, was set up originally.
02:20:39.200
But okay, let me, also I just want to point out, as men, we're looking at other men and
02:20:46.280
hearing their experiences and hearing how they're getting destroyed in family court,
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how they're getting destroyed in divorces, how they're getting destroyed.
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Also, with child custody, because oftentimes custody defers to the mother.
02:21:00.000
And sure, there are deadbeat dads out there, but there are men, there are men out there
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You should really work it out with somebody that would take that into consideration when
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But okay, so here's a list of some very attractive, high-status, wealthy men that have all had
02:21:20.720
Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Dr. Dre, Ryan Reynolds, Tom Brady,
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Lance Armstrong, Alex Rodriguez, Channing Tatum, Chris Rock, Ben Affleck, Chris Pratt, Liam
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Hemsworth, Ben Stiller, David Duchovny, Orlando Bloom, Tiger Woods, Sean Penn, Sylvester
02:21:40.420
Stallone, Paul McCartney, Ryan Felipe, Jason Momoa, Michael Jordan.
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Wait, Jason Momoa is not divorced, they're separated.
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The point I'm trying to make is if these men, highly successful, very attractive, high-status,
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high-earners, if they can't hold on to a girl, what chance does the average man have?
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A man having a bigger pool of options and doing whatever the fuck he wants because he
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And of course, a woman who wants to be with a man that she chose to be with, you know what
02:22:24.980
And she's going to expect you to hold on to your vows, but you're so famous, and you're
02:22:30.080
so high, and you can talk to anybody you want, you know?
02:22:43.440
Maybe in some of these scenarios or examples I provided, perhaps there was...
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You have three of the richest men in the world, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, all divorced.
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And then if you listen to his Twitter and all this, he has a very interesting mindset.
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So who's really going to put up with that, even if it's for money?
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For the divorce, did the woman make the reason for wanting to leave?
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I don't think she was sitting there like, how can I just take all this niggas money?
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She was like, hmm, he does a lot of shady, weird things, and I don't think I want to be
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Maybe it hurt me a lot, and now I want to take all your money.
02:23:41.460
I think if we want to incentivize men to want to get married, there's going to have to
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be a reworking of the marriage laws in this country.
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Because unless you have the wool pulled over your eyes as a guy, and you've just been oblivious
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What if you're a broke man, and you get married?
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There are stories of men divorcing their wives, and their wives were the breadwinner, and
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Say they got eaten pay, and they got a divorce.
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I'm not sure how that plays out, but the marriage laws are pretty...
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There's definitely a bias against men in the court system.
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And you see that in custody, in how custody is awarded primarily to women.
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You didn't have everything that comes along with it.
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Women, I think, are probably, during the earlier years, I think are a bit more nurturing than
02:25:03.020
men are, but I think it's important for a child to have both the mother and the father
02:25:18.180
Because now you're excluding the lesbians with the lesbians, the women that are really
02:25:26.180
successful and only want to have IVF, like you're excluding them.
02:25:32.100
So for lesbian and gay couples, a two-parent household is better than the one-parent household.
02:25:41.740
Because you got women that really want IVF and have a baby and are able to provide for
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That might be fine, but what I would say to them is, is they are stacking the deck against
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By not having another parent in the household, by not having, for the women, by not having
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Because men and women, like, we kind of parent a bit differently.
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But so, I mean, and the statistics kind of exemplify why a two-parent household is ideal.
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I don't know the exact numbers, but the majority of people who are incarcerated came from one
02:26:40.880
The majority of school shooters came from one parent households.
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It could be the father could have been in jail.
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It could have just been a breakup and the mom didn't want to pursue it.
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Children who grow up in two-parent households are at every statistical advantage.
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And by the way, I want to make something clear.
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I'm not saying that if you grow up in a single mother or single father household that you're
02:27:20.720
But you are at an advantage growing up in a two-parent household.
02:27:28.500
Would you rather have, like, if it's like a toxic environment to have that two-parent?
02:27:43.460
Like, if it's really that toxic, I mean, I think, first off...
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Being a single would be a lot better than having two parents who are constantly fighting.
02:27:54.560
There are dudes in jail for a variety of things because they grew up in a two-person home where
02:28:07.540
But you can't go based off the incarceration because, let's be honest, majority of the
02:28:14.340
It's a whole bunch of bias in the United States and prejudice.
02:28:19.740
Like, you're doing the studies based off of, like, who's in jail.
02:28:29.720
But the single motherhood rate in the black community is very high.
02:28:44.140
Not to mention, thanks to Bill Clinton implementing that whole, we're going to knock them hard,
02:28:51.720
So I'm just saying, you can't go based off the stats.
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We're trying to get better, but it's still in our system.
02:28:59.860
What I would say, though, whatever race you are, you probably shouldn't get knocked up by a criminal.
02:29:12.780
The average brown and black person is going to be profiled.
02:29:15.680
But you know women that are attracted to, like, gangbangers?
02:29:18.820
Like, there are women out there that are attracted to guys that are fucking drug dealers.
02:29:23.320
Like, there are women that will go for men like that.
02:29:27.820
Look, could a guy have a clean record, and then you fuck with him, and then he does a fucking murder bid?
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But, like, usually you see most people that are, like, incarcerated, like, the signs are going to be there.
02:29:44.380
He's in jail for having an ounce of weed in the back of his car.
02:29:50.640
The incident that happened in, what is it, New York, where they arrested all the five black boys because they didn't have no witnesses, and they were all incarcerated.
02:29:59.640
Just like the Spanish girl that was incarcerated, and they finally released her.
02:30:03.560
Like, there's multiple scenarios of incidents of innocent people like me or you that are just locked up on a daily basis.
02:30:23.160
I mean, ultimately, I think my point still stands, though.
02:30:26.060
I mean, we can talk about the reasons, potential reasons for why, but the point I'm just trying to make is,
02:30:30.780
is that you put your children at the greatest advantage in a two-parent household.
02:30:36.600
So, if you're a single mother, you should want a father, whether it's the biological father or a stepfather,
02:30:45.480
although preferably the biological father should be...
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But I do think we need more positive male role models.
02:31:14.980
Going back to the marriage thing, it's just a bad bet for men.
02:31:27.580
Not every female is going to go after your money, though.
02:31:56.480
Before they heard the civil cases, it was like the judge was hearing a couple of family court cases.
02:32:03.160
So, while I was waiting for my case to get called, the judge pulled up a mother and a couple that was in the process of getting divorced.
02:32:19.260
These two grown adults in front of a judge arguing about the custody and the money.
02:32:25.100
And it's like, I thought to myself, I never want to be in that position.
02:32:35.120
My suggestion would be go spend a day or two at family court.
02:32:44.520
And then decide if you want to sign a legally binding contract.
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And then say, oh, maybe we don't want to put ourselves through this.
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For something sad, you're really setting yourself up to be by yourself, which is not what we're all here to do.
02:33:10.500
Well, I think you can still have a life partner.
02:33:14.240
But then if you leave your life partner, then you have to...
02:33:16.560
You have to pretty much get to a divorce depending on the state you're living in.
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So depending on the state that you're living in, if y'all are cohabitating, then if y'all decide to split, you still have to get a divorce, like Texas and Florida.
02:33:32.700
If you're in a common law marriage state, look it up.
02:33:41.700
If you're living with her for a certain period of time, the government's going to be like, well, you weren't technically married, but you're married.
02:33:51.460
But yeah, like I said, go to the court, go to your local courthouse, sit in for a couple hours, family court, watch the divorce proceedings.
02:34:18.040
We've got Davon Jackson here with the $10 soup chat.
02:34:20.400
I would kindly ask the women to state what a man gets from a wife that he wouldn't get from a girlfriend outside of tax purposes, in which case you can enter a more easily dissolvable civil union.
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So what does a man get from marriage that he doesn't get from a girlfriend?
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But you can break up with me at any time if I'm your girlfriend.
02:34:48.340
You're really supposed to take your vow serious if you actually and truly believe that.
02:34:58.700
But if you actually believe in it, you, like, literally get the true meaningful commitment.
02:35:04.600
Not because a girlfriend can go, I'm just going to go here, I can play there, just like for a man.
02:35:11.440
What do you think that men get out of marriage?
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If anything, well, I mean, I'd say, like, you just get to be with the person who's your best friend that you like to spend the most time with.
02:35:38.720
So you're going to, if you do get married, you'll take your husband's name?
02:36:03.920
I want to hyphenate and just to keep my last name going.
02:36:10.280
I feel like it depends, but I might take the last name.
02:36:16.260
I feel like it differs also, like, for people that say are in, like, they're the only child.
02:36:21.460
Like, for me, I know that if I were to take my significant other's last name, it wouldn't stop my last name because I have two little brothers.
02:36:52.200
Um, what if, again, your ideal guy, he wants to marry you, but he, he wants you to take his last name.
02:37:04.620
For those of you who said hyphenate, still hyphenate or do you bend?
02:37:12.600
I mean, I feel like I'm, I'd definitely probably like crack and be like, okay, fine.
02:37:19.960
But it would definitely have to be a deep discussion.
02:37:34.180
I feel like if you're so infatuated in a love enough to get married, why not just fully take it then?
02:37:41.300
Like, why can't I just fully dive into this because I decided that I wanted to be with you?
02:37:58.420
So, I mean, I have heard some people say whoever has the coolest last name, they take it.
02:38:15.060
First off, let's say that you're, you don't have a hyphenated last name.
02:38:20.280
Them still be the man's last name because surely that your parents, well, not always because if, well, if you're in single mother, how, okay.
02:38:38.060
Because let's say two people with hyphenated last names meet.
02:38:45.800
You know how his Spanish have a lot of last names.
02:38:48.100
And your kid wants to get married and hyphenate their last name.
02:38:59.460
There's that one girl who got a whole page for her name.
02:39:16.080
How many of you consider yourself to be traditional women?
02:39:42.840
So, I mean, what I would say to those of you who said you would hyphenate, you're not traditional
02:39:56.420
So, I have to have it hyphen for her and for him.
02:40:06.560
So, when I get married, I'm taking on his last name.
02:40:11.200
Your daughter would still keep her last name, though.
02:40:18.280
Like, I want her to still know, like, mommy's keeping her last name.
02:40:34.800
But, in all aspects, I am very much traditional in old school.
02:40:38.720
Like, I believe the woman should do her duties while I stay at home, do whatever I got to do.
02:40:42.800
But, couldn't you say one of your duties as a traditional woman would be to take your husband's last name?
02:40:55.220
By the way, I don't really, like, I'm not going to get married, so I don't really, like, this is not something I really care about.
02:41:02.780
But, I'm just saying, like, you can't consider yourself traditional.
02:41:08.040
And, honestly, wanting marriage is kind of traditional, too.
02:41:19.340
Or, do you want a guy to be, like, more so adhere to his traditional roles in terms of being a provider?
02:41:23.600
Or, maybe some of you might want to take on a more, like, raising the kids role?
02:41:37.420
Like, I'm sure, like, there's days that I'm not going to want to do some things.
02:41:42.040
And, he's going to have to do more or vice versa.
02:41:55.040
I mean, I think, either way, I don't really have an opinion.
02:42:20.660
I've been saying for the last, like, 10 years that I don't think I do want kids.
02:42:40.020
Okay, so, yeah, probably not right now, but in the future you want kids.
02:42:53.000
I mean, if you guys are okay with having, like, a 50-50 relationship, then you have a stronger
02:42:59.640
negotiating position to say, I want to hyphenate.
02:43:05.560
But don't expect the guy to adhere to some of his desirable traditional gender roles.
02:43:18.160
I mean, yeah, providing could definitely be one, I would say.
02:43:41.920
Wait, this was the original one from Dave Vaughn.
02:43:48.140
Yeah, but I don't know if I would say 50-50, because, I don't know, it kind of depends
02:43:53.700
on, like, say, like, I'm home all day and the guy's working.
02:43:58.720
Obviously, I'm going to, like, pick up the slack, and I would expect the same vice versa.
02:44:13.500
Did anyone else want to say what a man gets from a wife that he wouldn't get from a girl
02:44:20.020
I mean, you're, like, starting your life together.
02:44:23.680
You could move in with your girlfriend, but it's not the same.
02:44:36.520
You don't have to be as unsure of when this moment is going to be.
02:44:41.120
I know we were just talking about how 50% of marriages end in divorce, but if you are
02:44:45.240
signing this contract here to say that you guys are legally binded, then you have more
02:44:51.920
of a chance to be a little harder for you to leave.
02:44:54.200
Like, if you're more secure, you're, you could say that you have.
02:45:05.840
But, okay, if the guy, if the guy is the breadwinner, then.
02:45:16.780
Now, there could be, for religious men, the only benefit, I would say, for men to get
02:45:27.080
Because there's a religious, for, I mean, you can be.
02:45:29.900
So that you can have sex before marriage, or after marriage?
02:45:32.480
Well, I mean, it's just also like, you could, I mean, a lot of Christians have premarital
02:45:37.580
sex, but, and I'm not particularly, well, okay, I'm not, I don't want to talk about
02:45:42.640
religion, but as far as I'm concerned, I mean, maybe I'm wrong, chat, the only benefit, if
02:45:52.220
you're a breadwinner as a man for getting married, is if you're religious and it's meeting some
02:45:59.840
sort of, you're, you're meeting some sort of religious expectation.
02:46:10.440
Like, to just say, just be so against it, and saying it's so bad.
02:46:14.580
There's like, so many things that are good about it.
02:46:22.100
I know that's contradicting, but like, I don't know, it's, it's, it's like, nice to have that
02:46:33.240
I believe some men genuinely do want to get married.
02:46:37.560
I talked to this guy the other day and he was like, literally my only dream is to get
02:46:41.700
married and have a family and provide for my girl and work on each other.
02:46:57.260
Look, there are probably men that do want to get married, but they probably aren't aware
02:47:11.080
How many people get married and are anticipating that they're going to get divorced?
02:47:23.040
But like most men, like when they, I feel like most people, when they get married, they're
02:47:26.160
not anticipating, okay, this is going to result in divorce.
02:47:29.920
Like probably just, there's a breakdown in the relationship at some point.
02:47:39.820
I think you should find somebody who you respect and respects you enough to not have a messy
02:47:49.160
But, but that's even the thing is like you can get married to someone and then you might
02:47:56.200
Like, or they, or if there was some people can be spiteful out of nowhere.
02:48:01.840
Like, and especially when you have leverage like that, like if one person's the breadwinner,
02:48:05.720
then, oh, the, the money sign starts looking very appealing.
02:48:11.520
I can walk away from all this and get paid for it.
02:48:18.080
That depressing divorce court that you watched previously before you got married.
02:48:28.840
I can, I think you can have loving relationships and monogamy, but I think marriage is fairly
02:48:43.280
So I get the responsibility of providing for and protecting a woman.
02:48:52.060
Tell you what we'll, um, we'll do hyphenation, but when someone breaks into the house, you have
02:49:18.260
Women are interested in men based on three criteria.
02:49:20.720
The first is their ability to signal resources.
02:49:25.720
It doesn't matter how rich or how smart you are.
02:49:27.620
If you're an asshole or you're not kind, people eventually don't want you as a mate.
02:49:32.260
And unfortunately online, it's very difficult to signal two and three.
02:49:37.480
Um, and when everyone has access to everyone, women who have a much finer filter for mating
02:49:41.940
because the downside of sex is so much greater for them if they get pregnant.
02:49:48.200
They end up all being drawn or expressing interest to a much smaller group of individuals.
02:49:52.900
So what the dynamic is, you have 50 men on Tinder, 50 women on Tinder.
02:49:57.320
46 of the women will express all of their interest to just four men, which leaves 46 men vying for the attention of just four women.
02:50:03.300
So if you apply the genie coefficient to online dating, it's got the same genie coefficient as income inequality in Venezuela.
02:50:10.440
So mating inequality is greater than income inequality in Venezuela.
02:50:13.880
And what it leads to is what I call Porsche polygamy.
02:50:16.300
And that is that men who are the top 10% in terms of attractiveness online get 90% of the interest.
02:50:22.840
So that does not lead to good behavior or establishing long-term relationships.
02:50:27.380
Kind of 50 to 90 percentile do okay, but the bottom half of attractiveness of men based on online attractiveness are totally shut out of the market.
02:50:39.280
Okay, so we were kind of talking about this earlier on during the show that it's tough out there on the online dating apps.
02:51:04.740
Like, if you are the guys in the lower ranking, you should try to figure out a different way, maybe.
02:51:12.640
Like, if you're ugly and you came over and you're just so funny and made me feel some type of way, maybe I would give you a chance.
02:51:18.320
So, okay, the solution to the ugly guy is to be a stand-up comedian and have game, but do you think that's easy for guys?
02:51:43.700
If you think that you're low ranking, you're going to come across low ranking and, duh, nobody else will talk to you.
02:51:47.500
Okay, so just be confident and charming and charismatic?
02:51:54.640
I don't think, honestly, I think even for a lot of guys, you can't even, you can improve your social skills, but, I mean, unless you do a lot of work.
02:52:11.180
You'll practice enough, and then that one girl will find you, and look it, you're not a lonely, ugly guy.
02:52:15.400
Okay, so your advice to men who are unattractive is just be charismatic, confident, funny, easy things.
02:52:29.740
Well, I feel like it's kind of convenient, don't you think, though, to say, okay, just be confident, just be funny.
02:52:35.080
I mean, it doesn't work every time, but there is that one girl that Sally will definitely go for it, you know?
02:52:42.680
Is it easier for men or women when it comes to dating?
02:52:57.000
Actually, we'll be able to highlight it, but thank you for becoming a member.
02:53:02.860
I think you're the only second person to be a Tier 2 member, so appreciate it, man.
02:53:11.200
Hey, ladies, would you, if you see that icon, would you guys, you know, would you, George of the Jungle, you know what I mean?
02:53:26.020
Oh, you got, you got, you got a little, you got a ting.
02:53:31.840
Who here has a ting, but not a boyfriend, but a ting?
02:53:38.500
You said you broke up with your boyfriend like two years ago, right?
02:53:44.140
I mean, I've kind of gone on, no, I haven't really gone on any dates.
02:54:08.540
Did the Halloween thing continue or was it just kind of like a fling?
02:54:16.120
So this is like a check-in every six months type of?
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It was this person who loved Bami and I checked it and see.
02:54:51.320
It was long history, but it was like fuck buddy.
02:55:03.340
But pretty much cutting it off and then work on myself.
02:55:09.960
Wait, so I'm trying to get back to the original question.
02:55:18.980
Um, and you guys were saying, well, I've got a ting and.
02:55:26.660
So is dating, is dating easier for men or women?
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I think it's easier for women because they're getting approached by.
02:55:52.320
What makes me feel a little, uh, because I don't know.
02:55:59.040
Because like, yeah, everyone's coming up to you and giving you all these options, but
02:56:14.680
Um, as far as just like how easy it is to get, what was the exact question?
02:56:21.000
So, I mean, the question was, is it, is dating easier for men or women?
02:56:28.520
So for, are we looking for relationship in dating?
02:56:32.480
So when I, when I, my sense of this, my sense of this question is, is a very big part of dating
02:56:43.760
Um, so, and also being able to, I, being able to get a partner.
02:56:51.000
Um, so, are there differences between men and women when they're at the beginning,
02:57:03.060
But overall, would you, is it easier or harder for men or women?
02:57:07.340
I think it's definitely easier for women to get it, but it's not easier for women to get
02:57:13.620
a guy that wants to be in a commitment with her.
02:57:19.500
Well, most men are, I would say most men are not fuckboys.
02:57:23.400
The men you're, you're attracted to are fuckboys.
02:57:38.400
What, what was your reasoning before you changed your mind?
02:57:41.540
Uh, because I have, I have heard stories about men choosing women.
02:57:50.180
Um, that I have heard basically from my friends that it's easier for men to choose a woman because
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they're thinking about all the things that they want from a woman.
02:58:02.900
But if I see the other side, a woman, it's easier to get a relationship with a man.
02:58:15.300
Um, so it's easier for a man, for a woman to get with a man instead of the other way.
02:58:29.080
So let's do this last video and then I'm going to, I think I got two more questions for you guys.
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Eric, if you can, we're going to watch the, uh, actually before you play it, can you just
02:58:40.060
Um, do you think men should open up more to women?
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Do you feel like maybe men are emotionally stunted or they're very blocked off to some
02:58:55.540
I think that sounds like, that sounds like a overwhelming.
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I wanted this man to be vulnerable with me for so long.
02:59:14.500
He finally called me yesterday and to open up, but the second he started crying, I lost
02:59:25.880
That is so, that is, that is so, that's a red flag.
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You like when men cry to me when they are that vulnerable.
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Like when they can like open up and like share their feelings.
02:59:42.400
If they're not being whiny about it, I have no problem.
02:59:44.940
No, if they were like coming and crying to you like every week, that's the problem.
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Are you crying over something that you can easily fix and you've really thought about,
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or you're just crying to like initiate feelings from us?
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So guys cry to just manipulate feelings to men cry.
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Oh, he said that my crying was manipulating him.
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No, I, I think I am a person with a lot of feelings and yeah, I cry and he took, he, he always,
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he would say that I'm crying to manipulate him.
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So to respond to the TikTok video and I mean, all of you guys kind of were like, what the
03:00:53.720
Like, damn, but that's, that's how men, that's a lot of men's experience in times where we
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have opened up to women and you might not admit to it, but like, come on.
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Some dude was crying about how he's so sad about a girl.
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If a guy displays weakness, you lose attraction to him.
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I will say it depends on what you're crying about.
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I will literally cry cause I couldn't find my lip gloss.
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What if, what if a guy cried cause he couldn't find his lip gloss?
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You'll find someone compatible for that situation.
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So a lot of men's experience is when we do reveal something to a woman or we, we do open
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Y'all, y'all lose respect for us and you lose attraction.
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I think it's also depending on who you're doing it to.
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You know, like, cause if, if it's someone that like I've seen you put on the ball from
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you trying to be so hard and so cool and then one day you couldn't take it no more and
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you was crying to me, that's not making me think that you're, you're less than or you
03:02:45.400
No, it's making me think like, oh, you're comfortable enough to share more than just you trying to
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be so cool because that makes me feel like I'm not human when I'm crying and I'm sad
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I understand sometimes like you can't take a little, a little hit.
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Like if I, if I was like, uh, you're crying and you're like, this bitch is the most just
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And like when she's crying or she's feeling all these emotions, you're thinking she's
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doing this when really she just had her feelings.
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So, I mean, when it comes to crying, I mean, you might be able to, you might be politically
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You might be able to rationalize and intellectualize that.
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But when it comes down to it, when men show weakness, you lose attraction for them.
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That's, that's most men's experience when they've shown a vulnerability or a weakness.
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First off, men, typically we, we deal with our issues kind of different.
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Like we don't want to, me personally, I don't want to talk about my issues.
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They're like, okay, so what, how can we work on this so that we can make it better?
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You're like, no, I want it to be this way and I'm going to fix it.
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I'm not going to talk about it, but I can't fix it because I don't know what you're thinking
03:04:33.380
Well, here's another thing like that sometimes men encounter is we,
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we often don't share our feelings because our feelings end up just upsetting their girlfriend
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and then they're now left to console their girlfriend on her feelings because of how
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But, uh, I mean, I, I've, I've had experiences in my life where I've been seeing a girl like
03:05:07.800
So I'm not like nothing going down the first date, second date, third date.
03:05:13.240
So I was seeing this girl for five, six months and something happened and I was kind of in a
03:05:21.720
I didn't cry, but I was just like, okay, I'll tell, I'll tell you guys.
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Um, I called the girl I was seeing later that night.
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And she was helpful from that point on after she saw me all fucked up, like laying in bed
03:05:58.720
I was pretty stoked about it, but I was like, obviously like in pain or whatever.
03:06:06.440
Nothing else changed besides this external event that happened.
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And then within a month and a half, it was done.
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It's the, uh, it's the one with, uh, Miriam Nakamoto.
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It doesn't bug me when somebody is just, they have, you know, slender neck.
03:07:00.120
But when they go through so much trouble to look like an alpha male.
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And as you're falling to the canvas, you still need to go fuck you.
03:08:19.560
So the way he was getting beaten was fucking with you.
03:08:34.800
Like, you know, like a champ or like a fighter.
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I think it's a little different for her because she's a fighter as well.
03:09:26.680
But it depends on the woman if they're understanding with the situation and want to help you.
03:09:52.160
He cowers in the face of whatever could be going.
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If you end up being the person that has to be stronger.
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I feel like if I'm stronger than them, I need to be weaker.
03:10:19.360
But if I'm dating a girl, I like girls that are typically smaller than me.
03:10:25.340
Well, I mean, I weighed like 40 pounds heavier like three weeks ago.
03:10:53.820
So, we'll just go around the table because I just want to get everyone's answer on this.
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Your man, your boyfriend, your husband, he cowers.
03:11:10.420
Cause, like, I can't protect myself, so I'd want someone else to.
03:11:16.680
I'd say yes, because I'd be scared shitless too, so we can't both be scared.
03:11:31.380
But yeah, basically, I will be the one protecting this relationship instead of him.
03:11:35.740
Oh, someone wrote a really good comment, Thomas Payne, up there.
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Actually, let me see if I can pull it up, too, here on the stream yard.
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So, this guy is still much more capable of protecting her, the woman that was being interviewed by Joe Rogan, than an average guy.
03:12:12.280
So, I mean, maybe her standards are higher because she herself is an MMA fighter, but, I mean, there's not a lot of MMA fighters that go undefeated.
03:12:22.240
So, it's kind of like, I don't know, to me, that whole thing was kind of ridiculous, but, anyways, whatever.
03:13:05.120
You can ask me your deepest, darkest thing about something you want to know about.
03:13:11.340
They were talking about you liking to get pegged earlier.
03:13:29.060
Somehow pegging came up and then I had a banter with her that she didn't, she was an Asian
03:13:37.600
And I was, and somehow I was like, there was, I was like, what if I let you pegged?
03:13:43.240
And then she said, I'll think about, or I don't remember, but no, I do not want to be pegged.
03:13:55.660
So last question from me, maybe last two questions.
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Do you think that there are any standards, preferences or boundaries that men have for women that you think are unreasonable or unfair or gross?
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Everybody has their own opinion in what they want in a person.
03:14:19.200
So, if whatever you want, it's going to make you happy, then like go for it.
03:14:33.600
I don't think I can think of a very good example, and that's why I don't have as much to say.
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So, are there any preferences, standards, or boundaries that you know that men have for women that you take issue with?
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Here, maybe I can try to prompt you guys a little bit.
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Men typically have a preference for younger women.
03:15:12.940
Are there any that you take quarrel with or take issue with?
03:15:17.440
Only reason I couldn't is because I'd probably do the same thing to a man.
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I just feel like I couldn't say very much because I feel like I've looked at men like that, too.
03:15:27.120
Like, I've been like, I don't want you to be a little slut.
03:15:51.280
No, but you just said that you don't want your...
03:15:55.560
Like, if I'm going to choose you, I'm not going to necessarily go for the sluttiest one.
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Men, you do have a bit of a preference for them to not be a hoe.
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Like, the thing that they're saying, like, oh, I don't even know what your example was.
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But, I would think things like how guys are thinking, oh, I want a younger guy or a younger girl or whatever.
03:16:52.020
It's the body count that gets me or the fact that men want the woman to be faithful while they do their own dirt.
03:17:02.840
But, for the body count thing, what's your issue with that?
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Because if a man can have a high body count, why can't a woman?
03:17:08.840
Even though it's not favorable, but why can't she?
03:17:12.280
Because there are some women that strictly like sex.
03:17:18.800
Because if you're going to call her a hoe or a slut, you need to call the man a hoe or a slut.
03:17:23.140
Well, it does sort of come back to our previous discussion of it's harder for men to get laid.
03:17:54.040
Well, the double standard is justified because of the difference I just articulated.
03:18:01.660
Well, there's all kinds of unfairness in the world and double standards.
03:18:05.760
But I'm just saying it shouldn't be like that at all.
03:18:26.080
And then if they try to get their card out, I'm like, oh, do you want to split it?
03:18:30.740
But I don't expect a guy to pay or a girl to pay.
03:18:37.280
My grandma always told me the one that initiates the date is the one that should opt to pay
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I always pull my card out, but that's about it.
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I would split or sometimes I would take the whole bill.
03:19:06.480
Well, I put my card first and then we will decide if we pay, who pays and also if we're
03:19:26.260
I mean, I was offered, but it's the first date.
03:19:30.360
So, even splitting it isn't that bad in my opinion.
03:19:36.580
I really wouldn't look down on someone saying that.
03:19:39.020
Well, so, a lot of you said whoever asks, whoever initiates should pay.
03:19:50.100
So, did you have the bread to pay for the first date?
03:19:53.740
You asked me to go do something with you, and now you don't have the money to pay for it?
03:19:57.540
I'm very confused as to why I would even spend more time here.
03:20:00.240
On the second date, if I was like, I really had a fun time with you the other night.
03:20:15.560
It just feels like you were asking me to do something you weren't ready for.
03:20:24.300
I mean, so that thinking is fine if we're in a vacuum, but how many first dates do people
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Should have been two better on your first date.
03:20:39.640
A lot of guys are going on a lot of first dates that never lead anywhere.
03:20:44.840
They're having to pay for all these first dates.
03:20:48.380
But that's why you do, like, the small things now.
03:20:53.640
You can do it at the picnic, so you can go to the coffee shop, like, the donuts.
03:21:11.700
Men are over, like, 97% of the time, they're the ones initiating.
03:21:19.660
So, de facto, your answer might as well be, men should pay.
03:21:23.620
Men are overwhelmingly the ones that initiate asking for first dates.
03:21:34.460
You don't have the money to afford all these first dates that you keep blowing.
03:21:40.160
You could have really sat with this girl and tried to work it out.
03:21:44.060
If it was meant for you, or if it didn't work and you paid for the date,
03:21:48.320
you paid for some character development and no one bitches you don't like.
03:21:53.740
Have you ever gone on a date with someone that you had no intention of sleeping with?
03:22:03.020
So, you're only paying for my food if I'm sleeping with you?
03:22:06.860
I didn't want to fuck you until we were together for three weeks.
03:22:12.440
But, as a guy, when we go on a date with a girl,
03:22:15.140
unless you fuck it up, we know ahead of time we want to sleep with you.
03:22:20.860
I'm not saying it's a transactional thing where there's an expectation if we pay.
03:22:26.020
What I'm getting at is that a woman's threshold to go on a date...
03:22:32.720
You might say, men, yeah, you just want to fuck, right?
03:22:43.120
And we're often, maybe, that could be anywhere from just short-term or more serious dating.
03:22:50.280
A foodie call, like, you'll go on a date with a guy just so he's like...
03:22:55.420
Because you probably got a dude in your phone who's fucking...
03:23:10.520
And now, I don't recommend guys do food dates, really, just because, I mean, for a myriad of reasons.
03:23:18.760
Or you can do some shit for free, go for a walk or whatever.
03:23:21.460
But there are women, and there's a lot of guys out there that are on the food, the dinner date game.
03:23:26.420
And there's women out there that are doing foodie calls, just want a free meal.
03:23:33.860
At least you got to spend time with a quality person that likes to eat.
03:23:40.600
But, I mean, like, most people are dating with some degree of intention of wanting more than just a single night out.
03:23:47.520
For example, for me, I'm not interested in one-night stands.
03:23:51.360
So, like, for example, if there's a girl on a dating app, let's say, and sometimes, it's weird to me, like, girls be fucking weeks before they're arriving at their destination are swiping in that area, trying to have something set up for when they're there for three days.
03:24:09.360
But, for example, if a girl puts her destination in Santa Barbara and she's just in town for the weekend, for a week or whatever...
03:24:18.820
Next, I don't want to just be with you one night.
03:24:32.820
Like, they literally come to the area and be like, oh, yeah, I'm not from Santa Barbara, but I'm here for a few days.
03:24:41.020
Why do you want to get together with me if you're just out here visiting your fucking uncle?
03:24:46.020
You foodie called me, but I'm just not paying for it.
03:24:52.040
These people out here, like, looking for tour guides and shit, like...
03:24:56.540
He was like, I'll pay for you and your friends' dinner.
03:25:07.620
And then they're like, do you want to have a three-way?
03:25:17.540
I mean, sometimes you might just go on a date with a guy because you're bored.
03:25:22.860
What if you were just so stand-up that I was bored and now I got a little crush, you know?
03:25:30.040
You'd like to really focus on how it could not go that way for you.
03:25:35.060
I was going to say, then that goes back to the whole, like, men will fuck girls who
03:25:47.560
Girls will go on dates when they don't want to, you know?
03:26:00.260
Isn't that a bad thing that guys come in and they have the expectation of, like, getting
03:26:38.680
If that's all you're here for, I mean, might as well make this transactional.
03:27:01.700
She comes first before me, but that's another conversation.
03:27:05.840
But, whereas, if you're a guy and you pay for the date, you've provided a value, I mean,
03:27:40.820
Like, I paid for your food, so now you should want to fuck me.
03:27:49.600
If you sleep with a guy, right, you both get something out of that.
03:27:59.020
You get an attachment to a nigga that don't want you.
03:28:01.180
He only wanted to take you on that one date, and he was mad he had to pay for it.
03:28:08.580
If you go on the date, right, from a purely financial perspective, if one party pays, one
03:28:19.660
The other party benefited because that girl decided she was going to take her time to come
03:28:32.500
But look, in this dance between men and women, someone has to initiate.
03:28:51.620
I don't know why I went into the who should pay thing.
03:29:05.420
Even as a guy, if you ask, you're the initiator.
03:29:13.820
And when you go on a date with someone, you have to assume that they're fucking at least one other person.
03:29:27.580
So a man's traditional gender role is to provide.
03:29:31.700
I'm not going to adhere to my traditional gender roles when you got fucked yesterday by another dude.
03:29:40.360
You're going to take that doggy bag, which I paid for.
03:29:57.580
You're going to give him an ass-out hug at the end of the date.
03:30:01.380
You're going to take the to-go bag to the fucking guy that you're fucking, who never pays for shit,
03:30:10.840
Then you're going to fuck him and give him the food.
03:30:17.760
Because did you hear how she was taking it home to that nigga that does nothing?
03:30:28.860
He's got good dick, but he's a dick, and he's not going to pay for your shit.
03:30:52.580
Well, because I derailed it by starting to talk about who should pay on the first date
03:30:56.220
because we were talking about unfairness, and I was trying to say, hey, it's kind of
03:31:01.380
unfair that men are having to initiate and pay for all these first dates.
03:31:10.120
How come he gets to not do anything and then keep the girl?
03:31:13.200
And then she'll probably pay for the date, too.
03:31:19.900
Well, there's definitely scenarios where, and this kind of comes down to women who are
03:31:24.160
able to sleep outside of their league, y'all can fuck dudes that are hotter than you.
03:31:31.900
They're going to pretty much just use you for sex, but it's exciting.
03:32:05.640
It's kind of, I think, and a lot of men are kind of getting tuned into this.
03:32:09.560
You have two separate rules for different guys.
03:32:12.680
If the guy's attractive enough, you will break rules to get with him.
03:32:22.640
But then for, like, maybe the guy that's kind of more on your level, or you view him more, like, nice.
03:32:35.580
You're going to have to pay for the first date.
03:32:41.640
No, I mean, you can still get freaky, but whatever.
03:32:44.140
So you have different sets of rules for different guys.
03:32:50.960
And you're acting like niggas don't have mad bitches.
03:32:54.100
You're telling me you wanted to take me on a date, but you didn't have a girl somewhere around that you just was a little bit bored with, so you went and did something else?
03:33:02.260
Well, you're talking about the top percent of men.
03:33:09.840
Well, I don't know who you're messing with, but okay.
03:33:16.620
An average woman could sleep with a lot of men.
03:33:21.920
An average guy can't sleep with a lot of women.
03:33:26.700
Like any girl at this table here, if you were so inclined, could sleep with a new guy every single day of the week.
03:33:39.760
Also, an average woman can sleep with a very high status man.
03:33:47.120
An average man cannot sleep with a very high status woman.
03:33:50.620
I've seen some celebrities with some ugly ass nobodies.
03:33:56.140
We'll go around the table on this, and I'll start with you.
03:33:59.960
Has a guy with a blue check mark ever slid into your DMs?
03:34:17.740
How many blue check marks have slid into your DMs?
03:34:19.820
This one time I got real excited because it was all blue checks.
03:34:23.580
I guess I went to the right party or something.
03:34:26.900
I don't know, but I'll say like, let's be nice, 15, 10, 10.
03:34:33.680
Okay, and let's say which one of them had the biggest following?
03:34:41.960
One, two, three, four, five million followers on IG?
03:34:47.120
You said some musicians, NFL players, NBA players.
03:35:03.200
And then, yeah, some people come across like my TikTok videos and stuff.
03:35:07.660
Because you have an Audi, they know, they know.
03:35:21.680
And then I'm assuming you guys are getting like guys who don't have check marks, probably
03:35:35.560
Never a blue check mark in your DMs on Instagram?
03:35:39.980
Because I don't even know if they're real or fake.
03:36:05.440
So average men can't get with high status women, but high status, hold on, wait.
03:36:15.620
Average women, average women can get with high status men.
03:36:26.800
Can you think of like a really successful rapper that-
03:36:36.000
I don't want to beef though, so I don't know if I should say it.
03:36:42.140
I can't, I don't really listen to rap, so I don't, I can't remember his name.
03:36:58.620
But let me ask, you said, you said you had some NBA players, some NFL players, were they,
03:37:04.280
I mean, I assume athletes are typically, at least physically, their physicality, exceptionally
03:37:14.240
I didn't, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't really respond to very many of them.
03:37:18.940
Because they, well maybe because you know, they-
03:37:21.660
People just wanna fuck you maybe, but, so, how did we fucking get there?
03:37:33.840
Yeah, yeah, let's, I wanna try to put a wrap up on the body count thing.
03:37:39.680
Okay, so, the double standard exists because it is harder for men to get laid.
03:37:52.600
It's, for a guy to be able to sleep with a lot of women, he has to be bringing something.
03:38:02.420
Women need not, you need not have game to get laid as a woman.
03:38:21.000
You, you walk into a club, and you just say, anyone wanna fuck?
03:38:27.760
Some dude's gonna be like, I'm down, let's do it.
03:38:32.220
You could be, you could be a super handsome guy, rich, have a Lambo parked outside,
03:38:49.700
So, the double standard exists because it's harder for men to get laid.
03:38:57.220
A girl can't even talk about how she wants to get laid for a girl.
03:38:59.020
Just because we have the chance doesn't mean we're doing all that.
03:39:02.640
Well, yeah, just because, well, yeah, then, I mean, women would have body counts in the
03:39:09.080
If, if you exercised every single option, I mean, you guys are probably inundated with
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DMs on, or on Instagram, or it could be on dating apps, even in person.
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If you said yes to every dude, y'all would probably have body counts in the thousands,
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You, you, you cannot say yes to every guy because there's not enough time in the day for that
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I understand, I understand and respect your point, but it's still biased.
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You kind of gave me that change my mind dude kind of vibe.
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You kind of gave me the change my mind dude kind of vibe.
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Let me get these super chats here, and then we're gonna.
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Dave on Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat, man.
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It's harder for men to get sex because it's ultimately the woman's decision who has sex.
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You are rewarded for doing what's difficult, not what's easy.
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Because you got the prostitutes that just have sex with anything and anyone.
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I didn't know because you're like, I'm not fuck you for less than $50 or whatever.
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Like you're saying that there's the bitches that don't turn it down.
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I mean, the whole prostitute thing, that's kind of an extreme example.
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Like, yeah, there's guys who do OnlyFans, but it's just not even comparable to women's
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Not really, but like pretend I'm a dude that you find is attractive.
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So like, it usually starts off with like a conversation just so random.
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Like I meet people in like coffee shops all the time.
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They start talking to me, but I'll end up being like, oh,
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No, I never ask people for their social media though.
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But are you the type of nigga that only posts selfies?
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There's definitely a type of dude that is like,
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And now I'm just getting a little bit of a fruity vibe.
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Yeah, but he was being all big and masculine in front of me,
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You do it all the time, but you don't know how to do it.
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Okay, I said all the time, but that's exaggerating.
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If a woman, as a woman, if you do choose to be a bit more,
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compared to men, your likelihood of success is going to be way higher.
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Like if you hit on a dude, if you hit on a guy, compared to like a guy's batting average,
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there's a very high likelihood that you're going to have a positive response.
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And even if the guy's not interested, it's still probably going to go much better than how men get rejected.
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Like, they'll at least probably be like, they'll probably be flattered, you know?
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Yeah, and he went and told my ex-boyfriend that I was being a hoe.
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I was like, never will I ever talk to another nigga again.
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All right, we got Davon Jackson here with the $10 soup chat.
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She's viewing all men's options as if they were all six feet plus athletic millionaires.
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These are 1% guys in your DMs, and you all average at best.
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I thought you said it was toasty because you're keeping it warm.
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Davon Jackson, by the way, your mug has been being kept warm in Paisley's lap.
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I feel like you're trying to sell him right now.
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You know, he does, like, obviously for, you know...
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You know, I don't want to assume, but I think these are just faux glasses.
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So, like, he doesn't get any negative points from, like, a, you know, mating perspective.
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As far as his hat goes, like, I think he's just a big fan of the Chargers.
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Well, you know, I mean, on the topic of height.
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If her height don't start with 4, she ain't the one.
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I'm six foot tall, stronger than 90% of humans, and make six figures.
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Once we get this last one, we'll pull that one up.
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So, then my children's hairline would be at risk.
03:48:06.220
Wait, Eric, can you pull up Giga Chad, a photo, just so we have a reference?
03:48:12.480
Yo, Davon, thank you for the big $100 super chat.
03:48:21.540
Yeah, because you're low-balling yourself, dude.
03:48:51.460
Wait, Eric, can you find a full-body version of Giga Chad?
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And I'll spend more money on these chats than I knew, but...
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I don't know if he's going to simp like that, but...
03:49:25.300
Um, Eric, can you just pull up this other soup chat?
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Davon Jackson, thank you for the $20 soup chat.
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I'll spend more money on these chats than I ever would on you on a date.
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Anyways, okay, well, we're going to wrap there.
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I don't think I'm going to be able to convince the girls on the body count thing.
03:51:08.820
Oh, maybe we should wait for Chyna to come back and back to...
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I guess we got to do the body count one because...
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You know what's so attractive about younger women?
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Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
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You'd meet a woman, you'd get married, you'd be together, whatever, whatever.
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In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
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I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
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If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
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I'm going to be dude number fucking 29, and all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
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Like, well, if my last man cheat, I don't give a fuck.
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So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
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And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
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And that, and also, no, but the truth is this, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
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If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you.
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And it's unattractive, but if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
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Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real, let's go get a new guy?
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Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
03:53:01.520
The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her,
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after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken
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and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through,
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is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.
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And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.
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Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
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Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy.
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They really remember them. They really love them.
03:53:27.280
Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are. She doesn't care.
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If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
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She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answer's new date.
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And that's the truth. Let me make something clear.
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If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I want to see you.
03:53:48.360
Okay, your guys' reaction to that video. Kiana, go ahead.
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I mean, I agree with them, like some of it, but like, I mean, it happens.
03:54:03.860
Like sometimes, I mean, people's body counts are higher, though.
03:54:08.660
Like, I mean, yeah, I agree with the fact that like she is going to be more fucked up in the head,
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the more miles of dick, if I want to put it, she has in her.
03:54:20.020
So it's, I mean, coming from, I mean, me, I mean, it's not that high, but I mean, I've, even me, like, have had a lot of trauma just from going, having three boyfriends that broke my heart, you know?
03:54:33.140
So, and even that, it's really, it's really hard.
03:54:42.600
And so, I mean, I think it can go either way with having a high body count and being fucked up to being a young girl, not having that much experience.
03:54:55.160
And if you have a high body count, that does not make you more fucked up.
03:54:59.020
And that's not going to make you more going to want to go cheat or want to go be with another person immediately.
03:55:04.480
Because I know people that have had huge body counts.
03:55:11.320
Well, the thing is, though, if you do have a high body count, it kind of does mean those things.
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Because there are men that have high body counts, like in the hundreds.
03:55:30.100
So, the inability to be able to pair bond after you've had so many sexual partners does diminish.
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For both men and women, it's stronger in women.
03:55:48.140
So, if you've slept with 100 people, is number 101 going to be really special?
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Okay, if you've had 30 relationships, I don't even know how you'd do that.
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I mean, I'd assume they'd have to be fairly short term.
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There's always somebody better than the last one.
03:56:13.400
So, you're telling me I fucked with a fucking person who didn't know how to fuck, and that was my 33rd body or some shit like that.
03:56:25.900
And then the next person I fucked, they was the fuck champion.
03:56:34.220
But, well, you can definitely level up, no matter how many body counts you have.
03:56:38.160
Well, here's another reason why the divorce rate is so high and why most divorces are initiated by women.
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You can sleep with that really exciting guy, that really attractive guy.
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So, when you look for marriage and commitment, you're going to look for the safe, reliable guy.
03:57:02.000
Because you are looking for an average dick, and I don't think that'll...
03:57:05.580
Well, if you're average, for long-term commitment, you're going to have to...
03:57:10.240
You're going to take that exception, or you're going to fucking...
03:57:12.380
If you're average, you should partner with someone who's average.
03:57:17.080
Because, I mean, maybe you can luck out and get someone who's really above you, but...
03:57:30.280
In your youth, you sleep with the bad boy, the exciting guy, the guy who's really good in bed, the guy who's really attractive.
03:57:42.760
When it comes time to start a family and settle down, you're going to have to...
03:57:51.440
The guy that you're probably going to end up marrying is actually probably your looks equivalent and your...
03:57:58.520
But because you were able to secure sexual access from men that would never commit to you, but that would sleep with you because they want easy access to sex, you have...
03:58:10.760
You're going to compare your husband to the guy who could fuck you better, who was more attractive, and who has all these other characteristics that your husband isn't.
03:58:21.920
That's one of the reasons why the divorce rate is so high.
03:58:56.280
The conversations, just great questions from you.
03:59:01.680
But when it comes to status, a 19-year-old college chick can get with Drake.
03:59:10.620
There's no 19-year-old college dudes that can get with Rihanna or some, you know.
03:59:19.240
So, as a woman, as you become higher status, as you become more successful, your pool of
03:59:29.620
As a man, as you gain status, as you gain money...
03:59:57.800
Well, let me bring it back to the conversation that we were having earlier.
04:00:02.820
So, basically, the women fucked up for letting...
04:00:05.380
Well, I'm not sure if I recall necessarily saying that, but we were talking about the percentage
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You only find a small percentage of men attractive.
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You could never do no better than the one that really chose you.
04:00:50.140
Maybe you're bringing something else to the table in substantial quality to maybe make
04:00:54.780
up for your looks, charisma, confidence, personality, status, money, whatever it may be.
04:01:06.880
Like, generally speaking, we're not able to secure sexual access from women who are more
04:01:41.880
The point is, is that that's what's going on with...
04:01:44.880
One of the reasons why I think the divorce rate is so high is...
04:01:49.500
The more men that you sleep with, the greater likelihood that one of those men that you've
04:02:22.600
So, once you've gotten with a guy of a certain caliber...
04:02:26.620
It could be for a one-night stand or for a relationship.
04:02:29.640
If you've slept with someone who's either so incredibly good in bed or so physically attractive
04:02:36.020
or has a certain amount of status or is meeting some sort of metric...
04:02:40.560
It's going to be very difficult for you to get with a guy who doesn't meet his level.
04:02:49.160
So, in the same way, like, to maybe put it more down-to-earth, once you've hooked up
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with a guy who has a car and who has his own place, hooking up with a guy who lives
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But you guys could go fuck a girl in the dorm room or in her house and y'all be satisfied
04:03:19.740
Did anyone else want to react to the tape video on this side of the table?
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I don't think I'm going to be able to milk much more from...
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Thank you for everyone who super chatted tonight.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
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Thanks to everyone who super chats and supports the show.
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I really appreciate you guys had some really great...
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But, yeah, sorry that we did go a little later than anticipated.
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For those watching, we will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.