Dating Talk #44
Episode Stats
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4 hours and 37 minutes
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178.70312
Hate Speech Sentences
333
Summary
On today's episode of Whatever Happened in the Middle East, we have a special guest, PudgyBryan! We talk about how he lost his flask in the storm and how he managed to get back on the pod. We also talk about TikTok blowing up and some other cool stuff.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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A few quick announcements before the show begins.
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First off, hope you all had a good holiday and new year, guys.
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Chat, I gained about 10 pounds over the break, stress eating.
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So yeah, by the way, not sure if you guys heard, but Santa Barbara was flooded.
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We had some delays in cancellations, so I had to hustle to get some new people on.
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But anyways, so thank you for your patience there, guys, with the late start of the show.
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By the way, guys, we're on the road to big milestones.
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And 50 million video views away from 1 billion total video views.
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Our second channel, our Eclipse channel, the link's in the description for that, also blowing up.
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On that note, this channel is viewer supported.
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I make nearly nothing from ad revenue, so please consider sending a super chat.
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Throughout the show, I will read super chats at $10 and up.
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You can ask a question for me or for the girls.
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All super chats will be displayed in stream overlay.
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Can you show them the, oh, unfortunately, okay, just go to the next one.
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Guys, we have channel memberships, Patreon merch.
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We've been gone for a month, guys, so re-up your membership to become a channel member.
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We have six different tiers of support, ton of perks.
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If you become a member or gift subs, we will shout you out.
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You can see all the super chat and membership gifting triggers in the description.
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If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to a Twitch account.
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By the way, we got to talk about the flask that you lost me.
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But, yeah, guys, you can link your Amazon Prime to a Twitch account.
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I'll check back in on this page later on in the show and shout out anybody that follows
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And like I already mentioned, we have a Clips channel that is blowing up right now.
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If you want to be on the show, Eric, can you move it to?
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If you want to be on the show or help the show, DM at whatever on Instagram, chat mods,
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I'm trying to hire a talent coordinator because we need assistance in that department.
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So DM me at whatever on Instagram and, yeah, if you're interested in joining the team.
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So, by the way, can we get some W's in the chat for top producer Eric?
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He lost my flask on a – where were you in –
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But anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
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So I'm a gap year student study abroad on SBCC.
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And, yeah, I don't really have a major there, Paul.
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By the way, we have a couple people in the house that are not from the U.S., right?
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Can we get some Brazilian flags in the chat for the two Brazilian girls?
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But it's, like, in between Rotterdam and The Hague.
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So guys, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
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And I bring this up because the two Brazilian girls drove all the way from Los Angeles.
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But yeah, they drove all the way from Los Angeles.
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They almost couldn't make it because, like, just as they were coming, the highway opens back up.
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Yeah, how the hell did you guys get out of here?
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I mean, the cars are totaled as far as I'm concerned.
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Keep in mind, people freak out when it drizzles here.
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So anyways, so we're going to go around the table once more.
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Guys, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
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I am celibate, which is single, longest relationship...
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There had to have been a moment where you were just like, okay, like, no, I need to be holy now.
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I was painting that board, and then God entered my body, and I completed it.
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You were making that specific board when you decided to just be celibate and be holy.
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Before I have everyone continue with this, let me get these Super Chats really quick.
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By the way, guys, all Super Chats will be displayed in stream overlay.
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Yo, we got ZoroSlost11 with the $10 Super Chat.
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Can you read it out loud instead of whispering?
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If you knew that, you lose 90% of your eggs by 30, 35.
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And the saddest demo of people in the West is 42-plus-year-old women making 50K a year.
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So what age would you get married, start a family?
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I'll get right back to the Super Chats, but I do want everyone...
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I'll get back to that Super Chat, and I'll get the rest of them.
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Flan Life, thank you for the big $200 Canadian Super Chat.
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Current Relationship Status, Longest Relationship, and Are You on Any Dating Apps?
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It was a beautiful relationship, but it ended, and I can still appreciate the beauty in it.
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I'm single, and my longest relationship was two and a half years, and I'm not in dating
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I've never been into a relationship, and I'm technically on Tinder, but, like, I don't
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But you're on Tinder, so what are you seeking on Tinder?
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Tinder asked me that several times, and I don't know.
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To be honest, like, I just want to get to know a few people, but, like, obviously, Tinder
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Yeah, because usually, if you haven't been in a relationship, it's, like, it's obviously
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Actually, I never, like, I've never found anybody who, like, I would be with.
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What is the longest consecutive period of time that you've continued to see somebody?
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Because maybe you haven't had a boyfriend, but maybe you saw a guy for three weeks, four
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My longest relationship is five years, and I'm on Bumble, Hinge, and Raya.
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We separated last summer, and we, like, finally got the papers in June.
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It's my only relationship ever, and my longest as well, because we've been together for four
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We did break up, like, twice, but we're going strong right now, so that's nice.
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These men were going to themselves if you didn't.
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But we'll just assume it wasn't just feet pics.
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We're about to be the longest relationship I've had after February.
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Let me get these super chats, and then we'll get into our first topics for the show.
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All super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
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At what age would you get married, start family?
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We'll go around the table really quick on this.
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If you just want to give what age you'd get married and have kids.
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It's like, I don't want to sound like that, but like, I don't really see that the world
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is like a good place to birth children right now.
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Eric, can you boost the audio on the keyboard just a little bit?
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Um, so you don't want to have kids because why?
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I don't really see like, if you see like climate change and all of the things that are happening
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right now, I don't really see like a good world in the future.
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So I don't really know if I really want to put kids when I don't really like guarantee
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What if you could guarantee a good future for your kids?
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Like, I want a stable, maybe like a stable relationship and like stability in my life.
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I don't really think about having kids right now.
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But I mean, you can, you certainly, you might not want to have kids now or anytime in the
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foreseeable future, but perhaps maybe in your mid to late twenties, you think it's could
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Yeah, it could change definitely, but it really depends on how the future is going to look
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And so your, your primary concern is, is it environmental concerns?
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I, uh, environmental problems and like climate change and politics.
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Like, I don't know, I don't see really a good stability, like stable, um, society right now.
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I feel like there's going to be something, I don't know.
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Do you think it on an individual level in terms of the environment, you think on an individual
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level, we should take action at an individual level?
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How many times am I going to repeat myself, um, to reduce our impact?
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I think that's a really good question to ask because like most of the, uh, like most of
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the CO2 in the year is like produced by big, big, um, um, yeah, brands and, uh, only politics
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So obviously you should think about your CO2 footprint, print, but like you should definitely
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go vote, like vote for good parties that care about the environment and care about, um, the
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global climate change because they're the ones in power and they are the ones that can change
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Um, I mean, you kind of already, do you have a kid?
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I think I had enough for the next, like, I don't know, five years, but then I think I
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I think if I find the right person, it's there, yeah, it's just like a lot to think
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I'm going to say like around 30 as well, but if it feels right to do it earlier or later,
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Um, I feel like most guys, like for the most part, from what I've heard, they are not really
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Girls are always like, that's like, they always dream of like the marriage part, you
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I, I don't think I want to have like, you know, a legal, have to like go through a legal
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At one point, if I do find, you know, the right person that is, you know, something I
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could do on my own without having to go the legal way.
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I mean, I want to hear your take on this because, I mean, you've been married.
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We got, uh, by the way, just reminder, $10 and up for the super chats.
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By the way, Flan Life, I think you gifted some subs, but, or gifted memberships.
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Um, for some reason, StreamYard will not show when people gift memberships.
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I need to, I need to find a, uh, a, a, one that, like, someone does a, uh, like a green
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screen one where we actually see it coming from, like, outside.
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I don't know if there's any, uh, visual effects people that could do something like that, but
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Yo, Flan Life, thank you for the big $200 Canadian super chat.
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Well, we didn't really communicate too much back and forth, but I got your email.
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Um, it was good to hear from you over the, uh, break and, uh, thank you, man.
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The storm wasn't, it was a nightmare, especially for scheduling the show, but really appreciate
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Um, good to see you, whatever and fresh and fit need to unite.
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I'd love to, uh, get on their show or have them come here.
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I'd love to see Myron on the panel with California girls.
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Cause I mean, they're, it's kind of all the same all over the place, but obviously the,
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their demographic is slightly different in terms of the girls in Miami versus the girls
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Love their, uh, show, obviously big inspiration.
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Um, in the pop out chat, can you, um, if you can, uh, it might be tough to find him,
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but, uh, Michael, if you can comment again and wait, let me see if I can, I might be able
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Um, but I'm going to try to get you mod if you can do, oh, there she goes.
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Um, all right, let's see here, dude, you guys are blowing up the soup chats.
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Um, oh, Mike Davis weeks off and you put together this pack of misfits for
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your return to chicks with dyed hair and kitty and cat.
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I think Brian set this panel up in order of normalcy from left to right.
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Mike Davis, Eric, can you pull up that photo of, uh, Mr.
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If you guys don't know, Mike Davis is a proprietor of numerous Burger King
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restaurants on the East coast and, uh, a big patron.
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And, uh, yeah, you know, we've got some colorful hair, uh, on the show.
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We were going to have like two or three other girls, but because of the
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I'm assuming you're talking about the girl who's in the bathroom right now.
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Um, Excel self says one of them is giving me sociopath vibes.
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Uh, you look like the guy at a high school party who has a backpack.
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We have Northern Lights with the $10 soup chat.
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I think relationships in high school could be beautiful, but when it stretches a little
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past high school, then it's, um, just needs a little bit more maturity, but they can be
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Whatever state of mind you're at, you can express love.
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I mean, I had no relationship, so like, and I had a really good experience, but still like,
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I was watching this documentary that was saying that we only fall in love at the same time,
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So after that, it doesn't feel that great anymore.
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So maybe you should think about falling in love.
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You don't get the same amount of pain or things.
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If you've been in love 10 times, gee, I don't know how that happens, but you've been in
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You think number 11 is going to be particularly special.
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You know, I think everything, everybody has like, every relationship has like, they
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differences and therefore like, yeah, you can find yourself loving something new.
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I think you can even fall in love with 60 years old.
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You're bringing way too much baggage and trauma to the next relationship.
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Like, wait, you're going to go to therapy, man.
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No, but like, heal, there's, there's also like, they can't do that.
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There's like, there's, if someone truly messes someone up, like if you, if you cheat on someone
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and that person will forever have that baggage, there's no, there's no amount of healing
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that's going to like, take that like thought in their back of their head now that
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they're like, are you speaking for everyone or just yourself?
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I personally know that have been cheating on and then they're like now have trust issues
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with the people that they end up getting with later on.
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You know, it's just like, they can heal to a certain amount, but that's always going to
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But if you've been in 10 relationships and they all ended for sure, there's been something
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that messes up those 10 relationships, I could stick with you.
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Oh, by the way, Eric, when I asked if there was a bit of a stutter or a issue with the
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frame FPS, do you remember what people were spamming in the chat?
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Yeah, sorry, our monitor for some reason is like, when I'm moving my hand, it looks
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Anyways, but whatever studio, technical issues.
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Okay, so let's see, we have, did you guys want to give your take on the high school relationship?
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I thought my high school relationship was good because it showed me what I liked and
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So I see people my age going through these issues that I went through in high school.
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And it seems like it would be a little bit more convenient to go through it when you had
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like resources to, you know, give your emotions to this person through your parents.
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Because maybe coming into that issue later on in life, you won't have those resources.
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I think, I mean, the advice I would give, for example, young guys in high school is don't
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Wait until college if you're going to be a player.
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Just get a girlfriend in high school and then break up with her once you go to college
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Then you're going to break up anyway because of college.
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Like, if you are happy with your girlfriend in high school, then you're going to break
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But, like, you shouldn't be trying to pimp in high school.
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I take it as, like, if you're in a relationship all of high school, you're taking the experience
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You'll kind of see how relationships are for later on.
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But you're also missing out on other experiences.
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Like, you know, experimenting, talking to other people if you're stuck with that one person
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I, looking back at it, I wish I never was in it.
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Yeah, he goes, like, I love that girl too much.
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I thought you meant, like, you like it too much.
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Lil Uzi, like, Lil Uzi, like, I just want to rock.
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I listen to 90s and early 2000s pop punk and grunge music.
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I don't know why I said it like that, but I'm just surprised.
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We have, yo, Flan Life with the big 50 Canadian dollar soup chat.
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Which parent is hardest to impress when you're introducing your significant other to them?
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Especially when you're, like, a girl because they're kind of protective.
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I would say if you're, like, meeting your boyfriend's parents, it would be the mom.
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But for the guy, meeting the girlfriend's parents, yeah, it's for sure the dad.
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So, although there, I mean, there's a lot of single parents out there.
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So, anyways, Flan Life, thank you for the Canadian $10 man.
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Would you delete your Insta for the correct man?
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For a serious relationship, or would you continue devaluing your values in your teens for a
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Would you delete your Insta for the correct man for a serious relationship?
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I don't have, like, Instagram besides my surf account.
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I have no value in my Instagram, so I guess marriageable man by default.
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The perfect guy would, you wouldn't have to do that.
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Why would you ask somebody to delete their Instagram?
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So, the question is, why should someone, why would a guy want a girl to either delete their
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Instagram or maybe a bit on the lower end go private or maybe not post revealing photos?
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Yeah, if I post a bikini pic, they should be proud.
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I mean, you should be proud, because at the end of the day, he is the guy I'm in a relationship
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No, no, but, like, what type of photos are on that Instagram?
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Well, why are you assuming that all girls post photos that are.
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And Instagram doesn't entail that you post, like, provocative photos.
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Yeah, but what if, what if this Instagram, we're saying, hypothetically, does have provocative
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If you go into a relationship and you meet the girl, she's posting like that, I feel like that's
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an argument you can make, you know, obviously, because you met her like that.
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You know, that's the girl that you're trying to get at.
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Personally, if a girl is posting like provocative stuff like that, I probably wouldn't be looking
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But, if you did have to like take it down, you say he's insecure if he would try to make
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But that also depends on their profession, right?
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If they are an influencer and they have a now chance, whatever, whatever.
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Yeah, if they have a couple models on set, like they have to post that.
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Can I ask like why you're bothered by them posting that?
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But I can sort of tell you why the framework for why guys kind of have an issue when it
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How many DMs do you guys get from guys where it's clear they're trying to hit you up?
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Sure, but how many would you say you get in a day or a week?
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Yeah, but I'm private, so I don't really get a lot.
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Not that many because my relationship is pretty.
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Oh, you're, yeah, sorry, you're in a relationship, yeah.
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But even in a relationship, you are getting DMed.
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That's how many DMs a guy might get in his entire life.
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So you're getting this degree of attention that, like a normal girl,
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the attention she gets on Instagram is the equivalent of, like, an A-list celebrity.
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Do you realize the, like, a male A-list celebrity, do you realize the amount of options and leverage
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you guys have just off of your Instagram, not even counting dating apps and all this stuff?
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Like, why would you be threatened by the amount of DMs?
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Has a guy with a blue checkmark, someone who's verified on Instagram, ever DMed you?
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When you say they DMed you, like, because you have your surf account, was it, like, for
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a surfboard, or were they DMing you, like, they're interested?
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What kind, like, are they musicians, athletes, actors?
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I just click, I see, I don't know who it is, and I'm just like, whatever.
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But you've had some athletes, some famous people DM you.
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Only, I'm, like, there was, like, one famous Brazilian singer, actually.
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I totally forgot his name, but it was, like, he was actually on Tinder, and he was asking
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Um, he wanted, like, give me money if I were, like, come over and.
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I, I, I just have my phone, but, like, I, I totally forgot his name, but he had, like,
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eight million on Instagram, and he was, like, DM me.
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I will, I will, I will answer, but, like, are you really ready?
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And I was, like, what, what do you want me to, to, like, do?
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And he was, like, yeah, I want to, like, you be, like, ready to, like, play with my,
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And he was, like, I want to hit you to your limit.
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I didn't further ask, because I was, like, after he said, I want to hit you to,
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No, he said, he said, I'm going to pay you a lot of money if you're going to,
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I mean, I'm not sure if they had the blue check mark, but I did get a DM from some famous
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Tristan, has a girl with a blue check mark ever DM'd you?
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No blue check marks, but she brought up Tinder.
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You know who has tried to hit on me, or tried to get on me on Tinder?
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I was with these girls, and they were like, right swipe, right swipe, and it literally
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I was like, bro, what the hell is he doing on the girls' side?
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This was years ago, so I literally was like, whoa, wait.
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I was 20 or 19, but I seriously think those accusations of him are for real, because I
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So they started flirting with him on my Tinder account.
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So, like, it was hilarious just scrolling through the messages, seeing the shit that
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I was saying he wanted to bring me to his house.
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I'm like, bro, I got my phone back, and I was just like, dude, I'm straight.
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I believe you, because that same thing happened to my friend.
00:44:53.400
But, like, on Tinder, on your side, you can set-
00:45:07.920
No, no, because they have a verification process, and his account was verified.
00:45:12.260
It's not like Twitter today, where you pay for the blue check.
00:45:27.460
Okay, so, we're going back to the whole why dudes have an issue with Instagram thing,
00:45:43.300
Do you think an A-list celebrity looks through all of their DMs?
00:45:47.160
If you're comparing, like, a woman to an A-list celebrity, like, they definitely don't look
00:45:52.380
No, like, if she gets two a day, like, that's literally, like, 14 in a week.
00:46:01.980
You only, if you, especially if you have a boyfriend, it's like, why are you even going
00:46:09.660
Because, in the history of relationships, nobody's ever cheated, ever, or ended a relationship
00:46:20.680
Okay, but receiving a DM is not, like, she can go outside, go to a coffee shop, and cheat
00:47:12.860
What if you've been seeing a guy for three weeks?
00:47:22.580
If I was seeing a girl for three weeks, I'd open Drake's message, bro.
00:47:42.440
I had this conversation with my cousin where he was like, okay, if my wife ever cheated
00:47:48.620
on me with Brad Pitt, I would be like, oh my God, like she, she was like, she had sex
00:47:54.860
with Brad Pitt and she's still married with me.
00:48:00.480
Like a, no, just like, you know, like, okay, she can get Brad Pitt and she's with me.
00:48:05.920
Like, so he was like, that's kind of a belt, like a boxing belt, like a trophy.
00:48:12.240
I've definitely had that conversation with my girlfriend though.
00:48:14.160
Like, all right, what if, what if, what Scarlett Johansson stood in my DMs?
00:48:18.900
Like, she was just like, no, no, she was, she, obviously I would, no, like, I still think
00:48:23.740
like you would still, in that scenario that you were saying, you still can't do anything
00:48:41.340
If, if I, by the way, I'm about to use an analogy here.
00:48:47.060
I'm not, I want to make something clear because I don't want to get canceled.
00:48:53.920
The analogy I'm about to use, I'm not trying, nobody is property, but it is an analogy to
00:49:02.300
If I buy a car and the dealership says, I want to keep the for sale sign on the car,
00:49:11.300
but you own it, but we're keeping the for sale sign on the car and maybe, I'm going to
00:49:26.680
That's, I already prefaced, I preemptively said that.
00:49:33.480
No, but that, that's more like if you have your Tinder still open though.
00:49:40.480
That's what I'm trying to say is if I was in a relationship with you, we had a conversation,
00:49:50.080
But here's the thing, for women, Instagram is, in essence, a dating app.
00:49:58.840
Okay, Brian, explain how it is a dating app to us.
00:50:24.700
That's making the assumption that you can follow a hundred hot girls and keep...
00:50:32.960
How do we know that you're also not sliding in a girl's DM?
00:50:38.160
If you accuse your girl of doing that by saying the for sale, sign is still up.
00:50:44.460
How do you not, you're one of the dudes who's sliding into another girl's DMs.
00:50:48.860
The difference is, is that that would be me taking a very specific action.
00:50:56.240
Whereas with women, men and women flirt differently.
00:51:09.520
Whereas girls, the way you flirt, it's not by doing what guys do by sending a message or
00:51:20.980
Overwhelmingly, most girls don't approach guys.
00:51:26.120
You just have to kind of be out there in the ether as a girl.
00:51:37.880
You flirt when you start like talking to the person and engaging.
00:51:42.500
You know, like if you receive like a thousand of DMs and you don't answer any, like it's
00:51:49.460
But then if you're like, oh my God, that's so nice.
00:51:56.700
So if you're confident about your girl, that she's never going to like answer the thousand
00:52:05.160
Like if you want to buy a house on the beach, it's going to be common that people are going
00:52:20.640
The house didn't ask for all those people to walk by.
00:52:22.420
Yeah, that's exactly because the problem is not always the woman.
00:52:25.720
And that doesn't mean that people are going to like go into that house.
00:52:42.040
I actually, me personally, if my girl has an Instagram, I don't really care.
00:52:47.020
Now, the types of photos she posts could kind of be an issue.
00:52:55.680
Look, would it be my preference if a girl I was seeing just didn't even have social media?
00:53:03.160
But I'm just, I'm honestly just being devil's advocate on this point.
00:53:06.340
The bigger issue I have on this, and me and Tristan, we've talked about this before.
00:53:20.840
I think that's the bigger issue for me, per se.
00:53:29.060
Yeah, I don't think that's a specifically like girl or boy issue.
00:53:33.600
Like everyone has insecurities when they're in a relationship.
00:53:40.900
I need to get through all the super chats here because there's a ton.
00:53:46.420
We have Zoro Slost, 11, with the $10 super chat.
00:53:56.460
Your body count matter because that's easy to get for it.
00:54:08.220
Can you send us like a cipher so we can like break this down?
00:54:19.680
What is one right law opportunity that a man has that you don't in 2023?
00:54:26.340
A 10-year-old got into their mom's credit card, I swear.
00:54:40.220
So we'll ask, we'll go around the table really quick on this one.
00:54:51.280
You often hear feminists saying, you know, we're fighting for women's rights.
00:55:10.160
But do I really want to talk about this right now?
00:55:15.920
I want you, if you can, think of one right or law.
00:55:21.960
Think of one right or law that a man has that a woman does not.
00:55:39.720
To address that really quick, the wage gap has been debunked time and time again.
00:55:50.240
Basically, there's just differences in choices.
00:56:02.700
I think it's more acceptable for a man to be promiscuous than a woman.
00:56:08.300
You think it's more acceptable for a man to be.
00:56:10.880
Well, that's not the question I asked, but we can.
00:56:22.880
I just think it's more socially acceptable for a man to be promiscuous.
00:56:27.480
And it's not socially acceptable for a woman to be promiscuous.
00:56:30.900
Well, that's not a right or a law, but you're right.
00:56:34.320
I thought you meant like social laws or like social rights.
00:56:40.480
Okay, so that's a double standard, but it's a justified double standard.
00:56:52.880
What rights or laws are you guys talking about?
00:57:03.800
Okay, Bernardo Sandriguez with the $10 super chat.
00:57:06.260
Do you date with intent to follow through with spending life together,
00:57:08.780
or do you date without expectations of a future relationship?
00:57:12.300
Really quick, guys, we'll go around the table on this.
00:57:30.180
Yeah, I'm not going to waste my time not thinking that it's not going to follow through.
00:57:34.060
So I do know people that don't think of the future.
00:57:37.140
They're just like, oh, yeah, we're just together right now.
00:57:39.080
But they're not really, they don't have plans to keep going.
00:57:52.600
It means the action of throwing someone out of a window.
00:58:02.160
All right, we have Flan Life with the big Canadian $100 super chat.
00:58:09.560
Hey, yo, Mike Davis, do you need any investors in the Burger King?
00:58:13.940
Can you pull up the Mike Davis thing real quick, Eric?
00:58:45.360
While we're at it, Eric, can you pull up the Twitch?
00:59:23.420
It's always the colorful hair ones that act the most innocent.
00:59:42.300
Do you want to say something back to Zorozlost 11?
00:59:46.260
It's always the colorful hair ones that are the most innocent.
01:00:15.700
Hope you had a good new year and holidays, man.
01:00:28.460
Yeah, XDM was actually left a comment, so he might pop back up.
01:00:39.140
Okay, Jacob Scheer, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
01:00:41.200
Have any of you coped with someone walking away realizing it's not what they want or a time they want it?
01:01:08.840
Like, if you change your physical habits, then your brain will also change to think that's comfortable, so just move on.
01:01:17.260
Yo, we got Zoro Slossed with the $10 soup chat.
01:01:20.220
A single woman in her late 20s and so on has been lied by feminism society and turned into, duh, masculine, independent man.
01:01:30.740
Your career status, money, does not make you sexier.
01:01:40.780
I think a woman who doesn't need help is very sexy.
01:01:43.960
I think a woman who doesn't ask for help is sexy.
01:01:50.180
You're trying to view it from your point of view, but if you're, but what I'm saying is, is that women tend to look at the male metric of success, which is go make a bunch of money, right?
01:02:06.540
But the thing is, that doesn't, when it comes to being attractive to the opposite sex, your career, the money you make, for most men, it doesn't make you sexier.
01:02:27.140
Yeah, I would think it was pretty sexy if a woman didn't ask for help and could make her own money.
01:02:43.600
But, yeah, so, yeah, men, generally speaking, if you make a ton of money, it's not really, it doesn't make you more attractive.
01:02:55.500
In the same way that a woman who looks at a guy who's a doctor or a lawyer, they see the prestige, they see the money.
01:03:06.580
But for men, it's not, well, a successful guy will gladly date a 19-year-old barista.
01:03:18.300
I get it, but, like, I make money because I want to be in a comfortable situation, not because I want to be sexy.
01:03:27.800
But we're speaking within the context of that appeal to a partner.
01:03:34.460
So, like, makes, does make, does money makes you more attractive?
01:03:39.640
I think I'd be more, like, I don't know, if side by side these two women were, like, put together, obviously the girl that has more money, she probably has more ambition, more hustle.
01:03:50.300
She's probably got a, it's just the character of that person is probably what I would be.
01:03:58.520
I wouldn't want a girl that isn't, like, like, Andrew Tate wants, that is just, like, a broad that just sits there and doesn't do anything.
01:04:06.080
Yeah, even a guy who sits there, if a guy tells me their hobbies are hanging out with their friends, like, I picture them just sitting down and being, like, doing drugs and watching TV.
01:04:19.120
I think, I don't, I don't care about the money part as much as it's, like, it's their character.
01:04:23.120
Like, if they're actually, if they're making money, they had to have done something right.
01:04:26.200
Like, they had to, they had to grind for that money.
01:04:33.920
I just, I had, I don't know, that was an automatic, that was automatic.
01:04:39.160
I was just, like, first thing I pictured was just, like.
01:04:41.240
In order to succeed, not, not always, but in order to succeed in the corporate world.
01:04:58.240
To be successful in business, you need to cultivate a certain degree of cutthroatness, of assertiveness,
01:05:09.160
And these traits are often linked with masculinity.
01:05:14.700
Like, people see, society see women who are, like, ambitious as aggressive.
01:05:24.920
But that doesn't mean that you are aggressive just because you are ambitious.
01:05:46.800
In order to be an attorney, you need to be disagreeable.
01:05:57.000
Agreeableness is one of the big five personality traits.
01:06:07.300
A guy who's on his mission, we don't want to date masculine women.
01:06:37.260
I know you, just because I've known you and we've talked about things.
01:06:40.880
So, like, I know you would want a girl that's more submissive and you would be the provider, obviously.
01:06:44.420
So, that's kind of what you were leaning towards and not so masculine.
01:06:48.240
But I think they're going to be a badass girl that's not masculine, that's feminine.
01:06:51.800
I know dudes that make a lot of money that are feminine.
01:06:56.400
100% is, like, badass girls that are feminine and they can, they're just making good money.
01:07:01.320
They literally can have a clothing store online and they're making six figures easy.
01:07:06.880
I don't, if, I have no issue dating a girl who works.
01:07:19.780
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, is that, let me bring it back to the financial component.
01:07:26.960
It's not sexier because women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
01:07:38.340
For example, I had matched with this girl on Tinder.
01:07:46.920
She told me, she still, even though she makes $300,000 a year, she wants a guy to pay for her.
01:07:55.080
She wants a guy to take her out on dates and to pay, despite the fact that she makes $300,000 a year.
01:08:03.420
To me, that's fucking, that blows my fucking mind.
01:08:09.160
But that's the point I'm trying to make, is that women do not share their money with their partner the same way that men share their money with their partner.
01:08:19.640
If you guys make a lot of money, have you ever offered to fly a guy out to you?
01:08:24.320
So those are the ones that you should not date.
01:08:32.340
But what I'm saying is, if you look at also, in terms of being spoiled, a guy who makes a lot of money, he might spoil his girl.
01:08:39.680
Also, a girl who makes a lot of money, well, one, a girl who makes a lot of money is not going to look at a broke guy's way.
01:08:45.480
But a guy who makes a lot of money, he'll date a broke girl.
01:08:57.640
No, because the guy has to be, the guy in general is the provider.
01:09:00.680
If you look at it, like, you can say equality and pay, yeah, like, but guy is usually the provider in relationships.
01:09:16.320
You know, it's the fact of the matter is the guy is usually the provider.
01:09:19.040
So if the guy cannot provide for the woman, you know, the woman is obviously not going to be looking his way as much, you know?
01:09:27.180
Some girls, some girls might look a broke guy's way.
01:09:29.540
But here's the thing with that is a woman who's an attorney who's making $200,000 a year, she's going to want to date a guy that's on her level or higher.
01:09:40.560
She's not going to look at a guy who's a plumber or she's not going to look at a guy who's a barista.
01:09:46.680
But I guarantee you a 30-year-old attorney, a male attorney who's making $100,000, $200,000, he'll date the barista.
01:09:53.460
Because he wants the submissive one, like you were saying.
01:10:13.520
One, okay, a woman who's 21, she's more attractive at 21 than at 31.
01:10:28.360
Coinciding with that, it's also a, man, we're, I want to get the super chats, but it's a body count thing.
01:10:41.940
Brian, I know 15-year-olds who have been ran through.
01:10:45.120
Me and Tristan know a 17-year-old, or wait, no, that's Luke, sorry.
01:11:00.380
Let's say, yes, even a 19-year-old girl, could she have 50 bodies?
01:11:11.260
So you're going to just, as you get older, you're obviously going to continue having more sexual partners.
01:11:16.480
And what that includes is more relationship baggage, more trauma, STDs potentially.
01:11:30.720
If a girl is, like, if somebody is fucking somebody, if, like, she has a lot of game, she has a lot of sex, and, wow.
01:11:42.300
Look, a girl could stand there, and a guy would literally chase after her, because that's just how it is.
01:11:48.840
We just talked about how many times you guys get messaged by guys compared to us.
01:11:54.420
Like, girls have the power to let all these guys in, so it's like, if you...
01:12:07.520
I feel like women are also, like, more selective.
01:12:10.360
I feel like men, whatever, like, attention guys get, they're like, oh, okay, this girl is giving me attention.
01:12:16.480
Because if they weren't selective, they were just giving it out to every single, like, that guy that hits her up.
01:12:28.240
Okay, but, like, let's go back just, like, for a second in the financial part.
01:12:32.920
So if you are a 40-year-old guy, like, dating a 20-year-old girl, you have to provide because you're just, like, 20 years ahead in your career.
01:12:43.800
Like, the girl didn't have, like, time to build up her career yet.
01:12:47.700
So, like, body count, like, I don't understand.
01:12:54.560
Like, this whole, the whole part about the financial part, like, men, like, why we were doing the comparison about, like, a 20-year-old woman with a 30-year-old woman and the man who is the provider.
01:13:08.580
So, you're, okay, you want to bring it back to the money thing.
01:13:17.200
Obviously, we don't want to date a girl who has...
01:13:19.300
Why do you think that girls don't, like, don't share the same amount as, like, don't share the money as much as men?
01:13:44.280
And if you're the one that initiated it going on on a date, he should still pay?
01:14:11.360
She just said she's never paid for a first date.
01:14:19.260
This is why today I believe in that because I had five relationships where I actually did provide for my ex-boyfriends.
01:14:42.840
If you're in the same age, you don't make the same money.
01:14:49.480
Obviously, like if we were going somewhere, I would do it.
01:14:56.540
He says like when a man provides for a woman, it's like...
01:14:59.760
It's a bad thing, but then now I'm being a sugar mommy.
01:15:01.260
But when she provides for a man, she's automatically a sugar mommy.
01:15:06.120
I have friends who are providing for their boyfriend.
01:15:15.260
Yeah, obviously, the time's changing because society is changing.
01:15:21.180
That's obviously the case at the moment because people are becoming feminist.
01:15:24.940
People are becoming aware of the situation, and maybe that's what we should do.
01:15:29.380
The thing is, like, you can become aware of a situation, but you can't change the natural,
01:15:40.980
Look, the guy was supposed to go grab the food while the mom took care of the kids.
01:15:49.780
Tristan, when was the last time you had to forage for your food?
01:15:52.900
When was the last time you foraged for your food, Tristan?
01:16:07.460
That's exactly wrong because if we go back, it's like it's shared.
01:16:16.480
You're going to argue with me that men back then were stronger than the woman,
01:16:27.360
But now you say like providing money for women is something about strength?
01:16:45.120
Okay, explain to me why the man still to this day is the main provider in a relationship.
01:16:56.480
Obviously, it was always like because women couldn't make money in the 50s because they
01:17:15.300
Even with women with high-paying jobs still want chivalry and to be wined and dined and to have the guy pay for the first date.
01:17:31.360
I would say most of them say that the guy should pay for the first date.
01:17:40.160
But newsflash, 99% of all first dates that have ever happened, the guy asked.
01:17:45.660
Well, Brian, you're getting mad at the system that men create in.
01:17:49.240
Like, girls didn't ask for guys to ask them out.
01:17:54.700
Like, you're telling me that girls are now chasing...
01:17:58.240
Girls, if a guy is talking about evolution, please don't date him.
01:18:02.240
Oh, so you're trying to go against the natural creation of how you feel, how your body, your genetic makeup, and how you actually...
01:18:15.600
That has nothing to do with hormones or whatever.
01:18:19.600
Irregardless of the current year, that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and social hierarchy.
01:18:28.440
But how does our body decide who's paying the bills?
01:18:32.660
Okay, how does your body decide how you find a guy attractive?
01:18:58.560
It's literally talking about being the provider.
01:19:02.440
You can argue it all day, but it's literally...
01:19:15.340
You know, like hunters and the people that were like...
01:19:27.020
But I can tell you both female and men were providing for the food for the family.
01:19:32.080
So you believe that one day that women are now going to be...
01:19:37.720
And women are going to become the main providers for the men.
01:19:43.540
So you're telling me there's going to be the equal amount of men that are going to be broke
01:19:47.020
and literally women are going to be chasing after them.
01:19:49.520
All of a sudden, they're going to change up and they're going to be like,
01:19:51.660
I'm going to chase after this broke man, but I'm making more money than him.
01:19:55.780
You're telling me that's going to be equal, half and half?
01:19:59.820
If we talk about providing money, yeah, I think it's going to be equal.
01:20:07.160
Yeah, but why are you saying men are providing for women?
01:20:14.720
Actually, when it comes to the wage gap, if you look at major cities,
01:20:19.020
women between the ages of 18 to 30, single, for both men and women,
01:20:24.600
who are single, who have never been married, and who have no kids,
01:20:39.800
So when we have kids, we are one step behind from men.
01:20:44.580
Women tend to prioritize different things once they've had children.
01:20:50.040
Like if we both decide to have a child right now, who is going to carry it?
01:20:56.960
Even if you prioritize your children, it's going to be me.
01:21:00.000
So I'm going to be one step behind on my promotion than you.
01:21:10.840
Like if you don't carry the baby, if the promotion is not the same...
01:21:18.940
I want to bring it back to if it's equal now, we don't see women flying guys out.
01:21:33.700
I think about when we get like the equal payment, equal possibilities.
01:21:38.500
It's going to be equal because it's changing right now.
01:21:40.900
We're not getting equally paid then right now, right?
01:21:43.220
Actually, if you look at Scandinavian countries, if you look at Norway, you look at Sweden,
01:21:48.860
these are countries that have done the most that they can to legislate equality between the genders.
01:21:54.240
You actually start to see more significant differences, for example, in the careers that men and women pursue.
01:22:11.600
And men are going to like, I don't know, science or...
01:22:15.380
And do you think that's even in the societies that are the most equal, that suggests to me that there is something innate within men and women that we have sort of innate different preferences on average.
01:22:33.760
I think women are more social in some terms, but that has nothing to say with like why women are not pursuing broke men when they have a lot of money.
01:22:47.200
I don't get like the causation of why women that have a lot of money can't date broke men or why they don't.
01:23:04.300
A woman who's making that much money will only mainly seek for a man making as much money or more than her.
01:23:13.360
The more money a woman makes, the smaller her pool of potential partners.
01:23:18.540
Whereas the more money a man makes, the larger pool of potential partners he has.
01:23:24.100
Because men and women value different things in a partner.
01:23:38.940
If I have a lot of money, I don't really care about the guy having much money or not much money.
01:24:03.120
If you have a lot of money, what do you date a guy that owns less than you?
01:24:18.780
Like you don't have to tell me the exact, but give me your range.
01:24:34.500
If I love him and he has the ambition to be somebody bigger and better?
01:24:41.160
Maybe by the end of his life, he'll make 50,000.
01:24:46.700
Like for me, I wouldn't date them because it just means that we have like different ambitions
01:24:53.020
Like I'm passionate about my job and my career.
01:24:56.740
So if I have someone like laying down on the couch the whole day, I'm not going to like...
01:25:03.380
But I would date someone who is making the same salary as me at my age.
01:25:12.400
I understand when I was younger and I was like, I don't care about money, you know.
01:25:16.740
But as you grow older, you have to think about the family.
01:25:20.180
If you want to have kids, it's expensive, right?
01:25:26.220
So as you get older, it's kind of more of like...
01:25:28.620
It's more of something that you're going to think about a lot more often.
01:25:32.640
Because you're now looking for a man that can provide and secure some stability with you
01:25:40.000
But stability between you and him are something that you're going to prioritize a lot more than
01:25:47.120
Even if she doesn't want kids, though, when it comes to having a life partner, if someone
01:25:52.400
is significantly earning far less than her, you have to think lifestyle-wise, too.
01:25:58.500
If you want to go on vacation, you're going to pay for his flight?
01:26:05.480
But a lot of women are going to be, well, I'd rather date someone who I can go on vacation
01:26:10.100
with a couple times a month and they can pay their own bills.
01:26:12.020
And the thing is, you have a lot more options as a woman because there's a lot more men
01:26:18.160
As a guy, if you're not making that much money, your pool is a lot smaller.
01:26:35.140
How many first dates have you had, would you say?
01:26:39.180
Have you always split the bill or did the guy pay?
01:26:56.780
There's not a lot of women that want to pay for the entire bill for men.
01:27:09.000
All right, let's get these soup chats out of the way.
01:27:10.760
All right, we have, yo, Zentience with the big $100 soup chat, man.
01:27:22.000
High-value men do not want their woman on Insta or other social media
01:27:24.940
because women use Insta as a dating app or a level up
01:27:27.420
if FOMO hits them when their relationship gets boring or gets tough.
01:27:32.180
These 304s and Insta share the same solipsistic frivolity.
01:27:45.420
Yo, we got Shane M here with the $10 soup chat.
01:27:48.860
but you're allowed to have other teams talk to you about coming to their team.
01:27:52.820
There's a reason sports leagues don't allow poaching.
01:28:04.960
Why do they feel the need to post themselves on Instagram in the first place?
01:28:23.380
High-value men know their woman is a representative of his family name.
01:28:27.140
If Instagram gives her constant attention, DMs, money, and opportunities,
01:28:31.380
the day she gets mad at him, she will look, consider said options.
01:28:58.000
Yo, Frankie K, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
01:29:03.460
Typically, psychologically, promiscuity makes it more difficult for women to pair bond.
01:29:18.640
Well, if you want an inexperienced female, would you say...
01:29:24.820
Would you agree that that is because a man is insecure?
01:29:31.880
Because what's the difference between a woman who has one body and two bodies?
01:29:35.240
You'd obviously prefer the one that has one body, right?
01:29:38.740
That's because you don't want to be compared to.
01:29:42.420
You don't want the possibility of being compared to.
01:29:45.460
No, it's true because you complained about baggage and all that.
01:29:50.480
You don't want the possibility of them comparing you to another person, of them comparing the
01:29:55.760
things that another person did to them, to you.
01:29:59.020
So that's why you want to, by default, be the best by being the only man in that woman's
01:30:07.560
That's a relationship that God should have with us.
01:30:10.180
So I can see it why they would want to have that with another woman.
01:30:39.260
So, okay, it kind of comes back to body count, right?
01:30:57.020
If a woman has the same exact standard, I don't...
01:31:01.060
If a woman said, I wouldn't want to get with a guy who's slept with a lot of women, I have
01:31:08.420
I think it happens to be the case that men care more about it than women.
01:31:12.960
But if a woman said, look, I don't want to date a player, I don't want to date a guy
01:31:16.640
that's slept with 100 women, that's totally fine.
01:31:34.980
Because I think a lot of people also tend to maybe cheat later on when, like, let's say,
01:31:40.680
high school sweethearts, that you just have one person in your life.
01:31:44.640
Like, you need to go out there to explore, and it's okay.
01:31:48.040
I mean, I'm not saying that, like, I want a guy that has slept, like, with 100 girls.
01:31:56.520
Who is like me, who picks the girl, and then actually is sleeping with her because there
01:32:02.400
is a connection, not just for the sake of having sex and making their body counts higher
01:32:08.100
because they think it's nice to have a bigger...
01:32:11.820
Would you prefer to be with a guy that's completely inexperienced and doesn't know how
01:32:15.740
You have to show him kind of how to do everything.
01:32:18.020
Or a guy that has a couple bodies, let's say 20 bodies, but he's experienced.
01:32:28.220
So, at least there's, like, a scale of, like, levels.
01:32:30.940
For me, I feel like my body count for a girl is a little more acceptable.
01:32:34.760
I don't think I would choose that exactly, like, if a girl has one less body, I wouldn't
01:32:38.760
be like, oh, I have to go with a girl that has one less body, you know.
01:32:41.680
So, but a lot of guys are, like, like, Brian for sure would want that girl with one less
01:32:55.560
Because I've heard about that with, like, roll rats.
01:32:58.360
Okay, so pair bonding, your ability to bond with someone, to fall in love, and to stay
01:33:07.020
If you've had 50 prior partners, your ability to bond with number 51, number 52, number 53
01:33:15.500
is significantly, severely, greatly diminished.
01:33:22.580
You know, a lot of people say, oh, my first, second, third, like, you remember those first
01:33:26.640
few loves, and then it's just kind of like, you're going through the motions again.
01:33:30.240
And if you have had a lot of sexual partners, you de-link intimacy from sex.
01:33:58.380
Would you be so quick to defend having a high body count if you caught a non-treatable sexually
01:34:10.780
Would you, let's say you, you were promiscuous.
01:34:24.260
Until we are in a relationship, get tests and the whole thing.
01:34:30.540
Okay, most people don't get tested before they have sex with a person for the first time.
01:34:37.560
Also, well, a condom wouldn't stop you from getting herpes, for example.
01:34:48.900
You can take an antiviral medication, which reduces the severity and length of outbreaks
01:34:56.880
But so it's funny to me with the body count thing.
01:35:01.960
Everyone just wants to forget about sexually transmitted diseases.
01:35:29.060
These two are looking at each other a little certain way.
01:35:49.060
She's like, don't date him if he says evolution.
01:35:53.880
Men are evolutionary, biologically hardwired to find promiscuous women
01:36:08.300
If a man has 10 wives, and they're only sleeping with him,
01:36:24.980
Now, in the past 40 years, we've developed DNA testing,
01:36:28.900
and we can determine with paternity testing who is the father.
01:36:34.240
It does not unravel hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
01:36:53.700
No, I have a question to, like, clarify that for me personally.
01:37:25.160
You have no intention of having a child, right?
01:38:06.620
and that's not about, like, getting kids, right?
01:38:37.320
We're trying to get my opinion and her opinion.
01:38:47.680
We're going to move on to the rest of the Super Chats.
01:39:04.200
We're going to go around the table really quick on this.
01:39:06.180
Tell us your height, and if you have a height preference for a guy.
01:39:20.540
Obviously, if they're shorter than me, like, I don't think I could fuck on that.
01:39:24.580
I was going to say, I was like, shorter than five foot?
01:39:41.680
Okay, so your height, or I'll get with a dwarf.
01:39:51.480
If you guys know any dwarves, by the way, let me know.
01:40:01.060
What's your height and minimum height requirement for a guy?
01:40:03.820
5'7", and probably, like, the guy has to be at least 5'9".
01:40:21.280
He's, like, literally a little bit taller than me.
01:40:28.180
I mean, this shorter, I would, like, I think...
01:40:35.920
I wouldn't, like, if he's, like, a lot smaller than me, maybe not.
01:40:49.280
Okay, of the guys that you've hooked up with, have they all been taller than you?
01:41:09.260
You look for a man that is, you know, that can protect you and your family.
01:41:14.880
I can tell you, I've never met a lot of guys that are smaller than me.
01:41:22.580
There's plenty of guys that can be shorter than 5'7".
01:41:33.980
If you've only gotten with guys that are taller than you and you're 5'8", 5'7".
01:41:47.560
The Dutch are actually, I think, the tallest people.
01:42:28.540
So you see what we're trying to get at, though?
01:42:31.920
You're still against evolution, but, like, there's a reason.
01:42:35.400
I mean, it's Kat, but she would date a guy who's...
01:42:41.320
I wouldn't date, like, if he was, like, 5'4", like that.
01:42:45.320
Yeah, you see, that's the point we're trying to get.
01:42:47.200
You're trying to argue evolution, but, like, 2023 doesn't change that we, like...
01:42:51.320
There are not a lot of men I met in my life that are smaller than me.
01:42:55.340
But you just said you wouldn't date a guy that's shorter than you.
01:42:58.100
A lot of guys that are smaller than me have a lot of problems and insecurities about that.
01:43:07.380
You're trying to get at me saying we're generalizing.
01:43:16.260
The same way that, generally speaking, women are attracted to taller men...
01:43:22.940
Maybe where you're from, but 5'8", here is pretty...
01:43:27.500
The average female height in the United States is 5'4".
01:43:30.880
The average male height in the U.S. is 5'9", 5'10".
01:43:36.320
They're just already going to be taller than you, so it's not a huge concern.
01:43:39.320
But you ask most women, they're not going to want...
01:43:43.320
Would it be their preference to date a tall guy?
01:43:47.740
And a lot of women are going to say, I don't want to date a guy that's shorter than me.
01:43:53.080
In the same way that women are attracted to tall men, men are attracted to women with a low body count.
01:44:05.320
There's a huge difference between those two topics.
01:44:07.620
You were like comparing physical attributes with like personality, right?
01:44:16.380
We got to get the rest of the soup chats, guys.
01:44:25.020
The fact of the matter is no guy wants to have an argument and attitude problem when he walks through the door.
01:44:39.140
So, do you know, there's this famous Bible verse.
01:44:45.880
Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
01:44:54.840
I think it would be better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and naggy husband.
01:45:01.240
I'd rather be alone than have a quarrelsome and naggy husband.
01:45:14.140
Wanted to show some support, but this panel is pointless.
01:45:16.720
These are all kids with a vast generational gap with a topic at hand.
01:45:34.900
It's easier for women and easy, regardless of what it is, has never and will never be respected
01:45:45.140
The formatting's a bit funky on that one, but...
01:45:58.240
They're not lying when they say it's harder to get on a girl.
01:46:02.560
Well, that's why the double standard kind of exists, because, like you said, it's very easy
01:46:16.340
It's not really a blame game, but if we're going to have a conversation about, well, that...
01:46:25.820
Or, sorry, when men sleep with a lot of girls, it's like, good job.
01:46:29.720
When women sleep with a lot of guys, they're shamed for it.
01:46:42.960
To be successful, you have to acquire traits like assertiveness, competitive, non-agreeable.
01:46:58.360
There's definitely women who are hustlers that they're still really feminine, but you
01:47:02.560
will start to adapt certain traits that may not necessarily be conducive to attract
01:47:17.020
When a woman starts earning more than the man, she automatically loses attraction towards
01:47:36.760
So picture we have a scale of 10 men and 10 women.
01:47:47.400
Hypothetically, a 10 is supposed to go with a 10.
01:48:04.060
That's like, so they have a perfect scale of explaining all of this.
01:48:13.880
As soon as you started saying it, I put two and two together.
01:48:16.560
Yeah, so the men down at the three and the ones, hypothetically, like, they get nothing.
01:48:24.500
Because the women are just by default going for higher.
01:48:27.320
It's usually with, like, income, like an income chart right there.
01:48:35.660
It's usually like a preference thing, income thing.
01:48:43.980
There's hypergamy one and hypergamy two in infographics.
01:48:52.480
Yeah, so this is basically what she was articulating.
01:48:57.100
Are you saying that only 30% of men get anything?
01:49:09.840
On the right is whom women would happily partner with.
01:49:13.980
So what you basically have happening in the dating marketplace is 80% of women are chasing
01:49:22.400
And we know this because the way most people meet is online, on dating apps.
01:49:29.920
That's the majority way people are meeting in today's day and age.
01:49:38.080
Women only match with a very small percentage of men on dating apps.
01:49:43.040
And it's the top men that are getting almost all of the matches on dating apps.
01:49:51.980
Because we were talking about the bigger pool and the smaller pool earlier.
01:49:56.180
That scale, I didn't even know that that was a thing.
01:50:04.700
Because I see a lot of, like, for example, celebrity women.
01:50:17.960
It's, like, almost, like, a really, like, strict line.
01:50:22.020
A lot of beautiful, really beautiful models date really, like, not attractive men.
01:50:31.360
Because they're, like, at their level or higher.
01:50:34.700
So, we're not talking about attractiveness anymore?
01:50:45.300
But, like, that's what we were talking about earlier.
01:50:47.840
Could be, but, like, I also see it with, like, a lot of girlfriends of mine.
01:50:51.460
And they also date men that I would say are not as pretty as them.
01:50:56.000
But there's always, like, also a general, like.
01:50:57.820
Would you say the same thing about your girlfriends?
01:51:01.120
Do you have, like, a girlfriend that is, like, a girl friend?
01:51:08.080
Would you say she's as pretty as him or whatever?
01:51:14.340
Like, do I view my, how do I view my girlfriend?
01:51:25.000
But, like, a friend that is a girl in a relationship.
01:51:27.680
Or do you have a lot of friends that are girls?
01:51:31.520
I know a girl that's dating a guy that, like, was the provider for the relationship.
01:51:35.020
He, like, wasn't, he wasn't, like, a big, he didn't have any income.
01:51:42.660
They got a game and they somehow pulled off a girl that's, like, a 10 and they're, like, a 4.
01:51:47.500
Or, like, but, in general, that doesn't happen.
01:51:50.940
But maybe, Kitty, maybe we should talk about, like, how many guys you met that, like, actually do skin care.
01:51:57.520
And how many of your girlfriends who do, like, skin care.
01:52:01.060
I think, like, women take more care of themselves in general.
01:52:06.600
Like, they're more worried about, like, beauty.
01:52:09.740
Well, I would say women are actually harsher judges of physical appearance than men are.
01:52:15.040
Yeah, you guys have a lot more pressure, for sure, in that aspect.
01:52:18.160
That's why you guys take care of her probably a lot more.
01:52:20.180
Actually, it's harder for men to be physically attractive.
01:52:22.720
No, I mean, like, they have a lot more pressure between girls.
01:52:29.100
That's why they got the whole, they'll make, well, and they have makeup, you know.
01:52:31.680
That's why girls are, like, more inclined to, like, do the surgeries, you know.
01:52:35.200
Because they got to compete with all these girls who are now getting surgeries.
01:52:39.500
While we're on the topic of surgeries, I think it's absolutely terrible.
01:52:58.600
I like, out, like, I just think it's unfortunate.
01:53:30.420
I know things are kind of, I know things are, you know, a little funky in 2023, but I'm
01:53:35.660
a male, so I don't have a vagina, if that's what you're asking.
01:54:01.500
Yeah, I find it really sad that people are getting labia surgeries.
01:54:05.500
Brian, yeah, someone used the roast beef and turkey bologna in the chat, man.
01:54:16.900
I don't think any of us in here are like, yeah, cut off your labias.
01:54:28.920
I don't think anyone should be shamed for their goods, you know, man or woman.
01:54:35.340
On that topic, Greta Thunberg said something very mean to Andrew Tate.
01:54:50.640
Well, we'll react to a video, then we can talk about that.
01:54:52.960
Brian, are we really going to react to someone who's like in jail right now?
01:55:07.440
Well, he's going to get railroaded because Romania is probably corrupt.
01:55:15.240
Because, honestly, he has some criticisms for the U.S.,
01:55:19.400
but if he had been in the U.S., he would be out on bail right now,
01:55:22.140
whereas he's – I don't think they have a bail system.
01:55:24.320
Didn't he actually go to Romania because he thinks the laws are not as strict in Romania
01:55:36.980
So, he kind of – he put himself in that position.
01:55:39.440
I will say he made some inculpatory statements, some incriminating statements, certainly.
01:55:50.980
Body count matters because almost any woman can just say,
01:55:55.440
Men have to work to some kind of status to get more hookups.
01:56:02.560
Yeah, it's pretty easy for women to get laid, whereas –
01:56:11.680
Like, we're sure we can have a lot, but, like, sure, it's easier.
01:56:24.740
They're just like, all right, I'm going to rack them up.
01:56:35.140
Well, would you apply those same standards to yourself?
01:56:40.640
I didn't just, like, rack up a whole bunch of, like, bodies.
01:56:44.140
If that's a standard that you apply to yourself, then I think it's fair that you apply it to other people.
01:56:51.480
I guess my issue would be, like, men like Andrew Tate who are, like, supposedly running through girls caring about body count when they don't really apply that to themselves.
01:57:01.800
Well, a lot of high-value men, a lot of men that make a lot of money like that, they feel they have the – I don't know.
01:57:09.540
I guess they don't have the say, but they usually just don't really care.
01:57:13.860
That's why Andrew Tate does not – just doesn't care.
01:57:16.140
He's just like, all right, if a girl wants to be here, like, he's going to provide for her.
01:57:19.980
But if she doesn't want to be here, she can, like, get out.
01:57:22.260
So, I'm not saying I agree with him, but that's how he feels it.
01:57:26.820
Well, also, men and women tend to have a different sexual strategy.
01:57:31.580
And, again, to, like, bring it back – why did she laugh?
01:57:36.860
To bring it back to evolution, like, men, we want to spread the seed.
01:57:42.200
Because we could get a new woman pregnant multiple times a day if we had access.
01:57:49.340
Whereas a woman, you can only get pregnant once in that last nine months.
01:57:53.760
So, that kind of explains, for evolutionary reasons, also why women tend to be more selective about who they partner with.
01:58:00.600
And, like, also evolutionary, we try to find someone who's going to, like, create – raise the baby with, too.
01:58:07.020
Yeah, I love how we're talking about evolution now.
01:58:16.300
You can't say it's 2023 and things have changed.
01:58:19.340
And I think it's just not the best argument if you, like, say – because if you say nature and, like, evolution, we also see a lot of bad things happen, evolutionary.
01:58:30.040
Like, evolutionary, we can also say men can rape women.
01:58:36.240
Yeah, that's exactly what happened, evolutionary.
01:58:41.980
The people – men don't have an evolutionary desire to do that.
01:59:00.060
Because sex is easy to get for women, when women has a lot of different partners, it's not respected.
01:59:05.840
I think we were pretty much just talking about that.
01:59:12.880
Every time German girl talks, I think of that final scene in Downfall, where Bruno Gans' character looks at the ground and says to his generals,
01:59:59.960
How much does someone have to super chat for you to wear this?
02:00:04.460
It'll really bring out the color of your eyes, by the way.
02:00:19.520
Guys, how much do they have to super chat for you to wear this?
02:01:23.640
30 years old who is a virgin or 22 with higher partners because it's very common in immigrant communities to wait until marriage.
02:01:32.560
However, both them and their families never accept a guy with a past.
02:01:52.700
Because he's saying it's very common in immigrant communities to wait until marriage.
02:01:59.580
It is common for immigrant families to withhold that.
02:02:04.520
It doesn't matter what age you lose your virginity at.
02:02:23.240
Women are a representation of the man in social settings.
02:02:26.980
If the woman is a 30 foe, her husband's peers know he lacks good judgment.
02:02:46.260
If I had a hoe, I wouldn't show them off either.
02:02:53.220
We have Lawrence Bullock with the subsequent $20 soup chat.
02:02:57.260
A man earns money for the security of his family.
02:03:31.540
As a man in medicine, I can tell these 304s about pair bonding.
02:03:34.580
If she's been with five plus men, her ability to pair bond is broken.
02:03:38.100
Why would any high value man claim a 304 who indiscriminately gave her body away?
02:03:42.140
She wouldn't value him if she doesn't value herself.
02:03:47.740
Yeah, you can't value anyone if you don't value yourself.
02:04:01.640
Someone mentioned something about someone who's a virgin or who hasn't had a lot of experience when they get married.
02:04:12.040
Actually, the studies show that if you've only had like your partner, the person you're married to, that's the only person you've had sex with.
02:04:20.420
Those are actually the relationships and marriages that are the least likely to end in divorce.
02:04:25.740
Whereas as you start getting higher and higher, the more sexual partners you've had, premarital sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of divorce.
02:04:33.440
Wouldn't you think that person that like has only been their only partner and they're married, they would have a lot more temptations though?
02:04:43.620
Because I feel like that is a lot more prone to like have cheating in that relationship.
02:04:50.880
If they've never been with anyone else and that there have been no relationship with this one person, don't you feel that they'd be more prone to like cheating?
02:05:01.000
I feel like in general, we should have experiences.
02:05:06.180
So you, not that you have to go out there and sleep with everybody, but have different, like, but also understand for the people that only have had one partner because then they don't know what's out there.
02:05:21.320
But then also sometimes it's just, it's a society, right?
02:05:23.800
Like people that are around you, they're like, wow, you've been just with this one person.
02:05:35.300
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
02:06:22.740
You know, like, I don't, like, I could be a ten for somebody or I could be an eight.
02:06:31.100
Like, I got reached a point that I'm confident no matter what people say.
02:06:40.860
I don't think anyone should be, like, you know, get criticism.
02:06:49.760
I will give credit to the panel because oftentimes we get every single girl.
02:07:01.920
But actually, I want to ask you two a question.
02:07:08.460
What would you say are some differences when it comes to dating between Brazil and the U.S.?
02:07:20.820
I feel like in Brazil, people are more passionate.
02:07:32.800
So what was the difference between relationships over there and here?
02:07:36.000
I feel like in Brazil, people are more passionate.
02:07:41.900
Like, when I kiss people, they're like, oh, my God, you kiss so strongly.
02:07:59.220
You know, like, in Brazil, when we say hi, we give kisses.
02:08:02.180
And then, maybe, here, it's always, like, complicated.
02:08:07.940
Because that also has a lot to do with it, obviously.
02:08:10.360
You know, has it been the same ethnicity, guys?
02:08:12.280
I'm sure there were Brazilian men that you're talking about, right?
02:08:15.600
There's probably not too many Brazilian men here that you've, you know, hooked up with.
02:08:28.500
And I remember the first time that he was, like, oh, like, give me a kiss.
02:08:50.080
When we say a kiss, it's, like, a kiss with everything you have.
02:08:55.540
So, like, you never, like, in Brazil, it's someone like, oh, can you give me a kiss?
02:09:01.360
Because that's, like, what you do with your, like.
02:09:08.900
Here, obviously, in America, it's not really like that.
02:09:11.820
Latinos, you know, they're a little more passionate over their kisses.
02:09:14.920
But could you, you would say the same thing, though?
02:09:19.600
I guess it just has to do with, like, the culture.
02:09:22.720
You know, I guess that whole passionate part that you're talking about, a lot more common
02:09:33.320
I mean, culturally, it's just basically mostly culture.
02:09:48.120
I think in sex, like, when I think about sex, men in Brazil, they take more care of
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Like, I think, like, in the U.S., people sometimes, some people sometimes can be more
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self-centered and, like, more focused on their own pleasure.
02:10:09.640
I mean, like, they're just trying to get the nut in, and they don't care about the girl's
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And then in Brazil, I feel like more often, men are more, like, at least from my experiences,
02:10:24.340
Or, like, at least you have a balance, like, okay, now is your turn.
02:10:36.360
Well, I think also, if you're just, like, hooking up, or it's just going to be, like,
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a fling or a one-night stand, a lot of guys probably are not going to be concerned.
02:10:44.720
And I don't know if those were your experiences, but, like, probably in more casual sexual encounters,
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men are less, probably less interested in that, in pleasing the girl, because it's, like...
02:10:58.680
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, like, even in casual, like, Brazilian guys, I feel like
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Like, here in the U.S., I felt it, like, when it's casual, it's just, like, okay, that's
02:11:14.480
But, like, in Brazil, there is, like, this transactional thing, like, I'm doing, I'm giving
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you pleasure, and you're going to give me pleasure, and we're both going to be happy.
02:11:22.960
I guess Brazilian men are just more romantic, more passionate, they're more passionate.
02:11:31.900
Anyways, okay, let's get these other soup chats here.
02:11:53.880
Most men prefer to know they fathered the offspring they're expected to nurture.
02:11:57.680
Low body count equals less emotional trauma slash ex-boyfriend comparisons and expectations.
02:12:03.540
We want a woman we can share new experiences with.
02:12:14.900
We want experienced men in bed when they know how to do things, but, like, we don't want
02:12:27.760
Yo, thank you for the subsequent $10 soup chat.
02:12:31.520
I think that's three cents total, so big spender here.
02:12:35.540
Would they date a man they found out brought them to the same restaurant as 20 other women?
02:12:43.240
If you've been around simply for pleasure, it's harder for us to feel special.
02:12:49.000
So, let's say you're on a date with a guy, and you...
02:12:56.480
Hey, he's brought, like, 30 other girls here the past six months.
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The waiter's a chick and is looking out for you or whatever.
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Doesn't say anything bad about him, but just says,
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Are you going to feel a certain type of way about that?
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Yeah, I think it really depends on the date, then.
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Is the date, like, focused on just, like, having sex?
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If both of the partners have the goal to, like, keep going,
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I think I feel like if the waiter comes up to me,
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I feel like it's probably only for sex, the date.
02:13:45.380
And maybe men feel that same way when it comes to body count.
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wouldn't you say that there can be both men and women
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Although, I think if you were to ask most guys,
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would you rather get with a girl who's been with 50 guys
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Which, I mean, that's probably exceedingly rare
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I mean, I guess they don't really have to do much.
02:15:09.820
Eric, let me get these soup chats while we're...
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This whole bullshit narrative about women not making money back in today needs to stop.
02:15:25.320
The first woman millionaire was Madam C.J. Walker in 1915, a black woman.
02:16:19.100
There's like this one fairy that has a huge jawline.
02:16:31.840
Listen, the only GigaChad in my book is Greg Plitt helping you stay fit.
02:16:37.520
Can we get some RIPs in the chat for Greg Plitt?
02:17:14.300
Yo, we got Bruce BC with the, I believe that's Filipino pesos.
02:17:25.360
A simple answer to why we care if our lady partner makes more is because we want to feel
02:17:33.620
The appreciation makes us feel amazing from accomplishments that are usually
02:17:44.760
When a woman feels some type of way, when a fact statement is said, she uses sign language,
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shame, insults, guilt need to be right because the shoe fits.
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Oh, he's talking about when you guys were fighting and it made me sad.
02:18:15.180
I just thought you guys were never going to agree.
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Yo, we got reckless gaming with a Canadian $10.
02:18:24.760
A tweet came out October 11th that the US big tech put pressure on Romanian government
02:18:30.800
Whether he was guilty or innocent by end of 2022, beginning of 2023, this was all part
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Apparently, two of the alleged victims came out and said, yeah, we were doing webcam stuff
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They literally straight up said, no, he did not sex traffic us.
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Yeah, they literally, they went on an interview.
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They were two of the named victims, apparently, went on Romanian TV or something.
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Said, no, we were engaged in business with him.
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It was all, anyways, he was like, anyways, whatever.
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All right, we have Shane M. with the $10 Soup Chat.
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Have a young, attractive, loyal woman that other men have not, men have not and cannot have
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Or it can also mean, like, everything is right.
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Yeah, the only words in German that I know are Lufthansa.
02:20:18.600
No, it's the Air Force, I think, during, the German Air Force during World War II.
02:20:32.140
Isn't it, like, a German military tactic or something?
02:20:50.600
Yo, Dabayan Ghosh, thanks for the $10 soup chat, man.
02:20:56.800
Also wanted to give perspective to the conversation regarding me with high body count.
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I'm from Brazil, and I can confirm we're all giga chats.
02:21:49.540
Isn't there basically January 6th happening in Brazil?
02:21:52.820
Like, didn't they storm the capital of Brazil or something?
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All right, we have Mr. K with the $10 soup chat.
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Would they date the revered stud muffin known as Robert Lewandowski, the OG giga chat?
02:22:23.760
Guys, first off, thank you so much for all the super chats.
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I feel like it really directed the conversation tonight.
02:22:31.060
All right, we got through all of the ones that have come in thus far.
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I want to finally actually get into some of my conversation topics here.
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But hey, thank you for the subsequent $10 shoot chat.
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I think you say, if you're sinful, you're Haram.
02:24:19.980
I know you wanted to talk about polygamous relationships, right?
02:24:29.900
You told me before the show that you were keen to talk about polygamous relationships or open relationships, right?
02:24:37.620
That doesn't seem like a fun conversation with you now.
02:24:40.460
Well, I'm happy to engage in a conversation about it.
02:24:51.160
Well, I mean, I think people are free to have whatever legal consulting relationships they so choose.
02:25:03.320
For example, do I think that a polygamous relationship would be a good framework for raising children?
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And some people might disagree with me, but I don't think that that would be good for children.
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Not because of necessarily any abuse, but I just...
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I think society, civilization functions best with monogamy.
02:25:57.600
Actually, we were, like, monogamically married, and then he figured out that he was non-monogamous, like, halfway through the marriage.
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He was just, like, would you be open to have an open relationship?
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No, he's, like, hey, I'm, like, he started, like, getting, I mean, I'm not gonna talk too much about him, but, like, he was, he was not himself.
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He was, like, kind of depressed, and I was, like, hey, what is going on?
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And he's, like, I think, I'm feeling more, I'm more trapped.
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So, I feel, and, like, and then I was, like, you know, go to therapy, figure out about yourself, and then he figured out that he was, like, non-monogamous.
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So, I'm super afraid of having regrets in my life.
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I never had an open relationship before, so maybe before just pulling, like, pulling the plug, let's try it.
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And we did try for six months, but, like, it was too much for me.
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So, you guys, for a period of six months, you opened up the relationship for both of you?
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That's when we also, like, so, we were moving houses, too.
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So, that's when, like, I decided to move, and, like, because we were in different cities.
02:27:19.940
I was, like, okay, we're in different cities, so maybe we can try like that, because then I'm not gonna.
02:27:25.500
I feel weird about it, like, to go in Trader Joe's and meet someone you hook up with there.
02:27:31.800
Hell no, I could never, I could never, I could never, I could never be in that type.
02:27:36.940
But then, like, then how, like, if, if you, like, if I divorced him before trying the open relationship.
02:27:44.140
I mean, you, I honestly, I think your route of trying it was, like, the best you could do.
02:27:48.720
A lot of women would just be, like, what the hell did you just ask me?
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There was just, like, these things that was different between us.
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That I was, like, if I never try it, I'm gonna be forever, like, oh, what if I had tried?
02:28:22.240
You would do a, you would do an open relationship like that?
02:28:28.240
If I really love someone and then that's what they wanted and they thought that's what was
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At some point, like, I felt that it was just what he needed.
02:28:43.660
And I was, like, okay, he's really unhappy right now.
02:28:50.560
So, the thing is that, like, I was afraid of opening the relationship because I was, like,
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you know, I'm gonna fall in love with someone else and I'm gonna, like, get, like, not interested
02:29:04.520
I'd be, like, I'd be, like, oh, he's fucking another girl, like, while I'm married with him,
02:29:10.160
But, like, for him, it was, like, how he was saying, like, it was, like, sex was just,
02:29:18.940
Like, he's, like, I love you and, like, I'm devoted to you, but, like, I can't have sex
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And, um, but then, um, yeah, I think I'm talking too much about him, but, like, for
02:29:36.820
me, I kind of understood this part when I had it.
02:29:40.580
I was, like, okay, like, I'm going out with all those guys, but my husband is still the
02:29:48.960
How, do you know how many girls he smashed while you guys were still together?
02:29:53.720
So, you get it, I know you're talking about it.
02:29:54.800
Do you have a sense, like, was it, like, three girls a week or what?
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Is he, like, was your ex-husband, was he a fucking Chad?
02:30:06.540
Like, I know, I know him, but, like, what does he mean?
02:30:09.160
Like, just, like, good looking, he has game, like, can he get, can he get girls?
02:30:19.480
He's, like, handsome, he's super charming, he's...
02:30:23.480
But you guys would never talk about, like, the other people that would be, you know, on
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We talked about for, like, during the open relationship, we would talk about, but, like,
02:30:37.420
No, it's obviously, it's not an easy topic to talk about with you, you know, the person
02:30:42.400
Like, hey, yeah, I just had sex with this one girl.
02:30:48.060
I mean, from the guy's perspective, the moment a girl even tries to bring up open relationship,
02:30:58.100
I don't know if it's different for girls, but if a girl...
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If my girlfriend comes to me and says, Brian, I want to open up the relationship, you're
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already cheating, or you want to fuck other guys, we're done.
02:31:08.560
If I had a boyfriend and he came up with this idea, for sure, but, like, he's one of my
02:31:20.800
I loved him, but, like, we are also, like, so the same person, like, with different hairs,
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basically, and, like, monogamous, non-monogamous.
02:31:29.520
But we are the same person, like, Kitty met him, like, we have just so much chemistry,
02:31:34.340
we like the same thing, we have the same energy level, we like to hang out with the same people.
02:31:39.180
So when you were at that level of compatibility, like, why would you not try if you feel like
02:31:47.440
And that's why I tried, but then that's also, like, when we both realized that he was
02:31:53.040
grieving up out of the relationship, he was happy where he was, and I wasn't, so that's
02:31:58.620
when I was, like, okay, we should get divorced.
02:32:04.820
Rip, can we get some, can we get some RIPs in the chat for, oh, it's cold, Eric, can you
02:32:14.080
Here, let me just, while he does that, let me just get these, Eric, are you able to highlight
02:32:22.640
Yo, XDM, thank you for the renewed membership, man, appreciate it.
02:32:26.780
Shalom, Brian, I haven't been on chat because I've been looking for Entertain Me, I'll be
02:32:30.360
back soon, you should give us a new year fit check, girls.
02:32:34.340
We can do a fit check, I think we got, what is the trigger for that?
02:32:39.660
Fit check, there's a fit check trigger, it's in the description, it's pricey.
02:32:46.240
Okay, thank you, man, appreciate it, good to see you back.
02:32:56.020
If any of the panel wants a relationship in the future, what preliminary action are they
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taking to avoid being a part of the predicted 40% of women that will be single by that time?
02:33:12.820
Yeah, there's some sort of study that says by the year 2030, something like, I don't know
02:33:17.980
what, I forgot the age range, but something like majority of women will be single without
02:33:32.560
Okay, so what I want to do is I want to open it up to you guys.
02:33:35.640
Is there something dating related that you guys want to get off your chest, maybe a question
02:33:43.080
that you have or a frustrating, a frustration with dating, anything advice, so you ask for
02:33:51.200
advice, something you want to get off your chest that frustrates you with dating.
02:33:55.480
Actually, we'll start over here with Madison, or we could do, we could do Tristan.
02:34:05.980
I got most of it off my chest, honestly, I feel like we got to get a conversation going
02:34:19.220
I feel like I hate when someone asks you on a date on Tuesday, like, oh, let's go
02:34:25.480
hang out on Sunday, and then you're like, sure, and then you never talk again?
02:34:33.220
Not like ghosting, because then on Sunday, they're like, hey, what time should I pick you
02:34:39.760
Like, you know, like, just don't engage in the conversation?
02:34:45.080
Get to know me through text, why am I going to leave my house, dress up, go with you to
02:34:56.140
Yeah, I really would love with, like, more, if, like, texting before going on a date.
02:35:02.600
Only because I have, like, really huge anxiety before dates.
02:35:11.820
So, like, I actually love texting before going on a date.
02:35:21.860
It's good because how someone conducts themselves over text message, it's not always a great
02:35:29.800
field because people can be real clever when they're texting you and they have time to think
02:35:35.140
But conversationally, in person, it could be totally different.
02:35:39.280
Also, if you call the person beforehand, it's sort of, one, it reduces the risk of getting
02:35:44.860
So, if I call a girl and it's a dude's voice, that's probably not a chick.
02:35:58.440
The other thing is, is that you can, instead of going through with a time and commitment
02:36:03.860
of actually meeting up in person, yes, it does take extra time to have the phone call,
02:36:08.780
but you can feel each other out having the phone call.
02:36:11.440
So, maybe after the phone call, you realize, whatever it may be, maybe you didn't feel
02:36:18.060
a connection over the phone or you didn't like the way they spoke, their voice even.
02:36:25.260
Maybe you detected, hmm, I felt a little weird about them or whatever.
02:36:32.800
So, and I've definitely had phone calls where I've spoken to the girl and after the phone
02:36:49.800
Oh, I have just like one friend that like we were going on a date and we call each other
02:36:57.520
And then when the actual date happened, like the physical chemistry wasn't there.
02:37:08.040
I think, I mean, when I say have a phone call, I think 30 minutes, you know.
02:37:12.580
No, but that's because like we like to talk to each other so much and we were texting so
02:37:16.560
much that we were just like, okay, let's call each other all the time.
02:37:21.940
Do you think it was because you guys maybe were both nervous because you're like, whoa,
02:37:28.440
And then it took so long for you to finally meet in person.
02:37:31.160
There was like a lot of pressure for on both of you to, and maybe it just created some
02:37:39.540
No, I think it's just like, like we match on the apps on like Wednesday and then until
02:37:45.660
like Saturday night, we had like four days in between and we started talking so much.
02:37:50.700
But then like when we were together, you know, like the kiss was weird and we were like,
02:38:04.960
Something, advice you want to ask about a dating situation or maybe there's something
02:38:08.780
frustrating, something that frustrates you about dating or?
02:38:13.960
I just like, because you asked them about Brazilian guys and like how it's different and I actually
02:38:20.680
like kind of, I think hookup culture here in America is a lot like different.
02:38:40.560
I don't know if it's expected from you to have sex on the first date.
02:38:43.000
Wait, have you guys mainly stayed in Santa Barbara though?
02:39:17.980
You're saying that in Germany, there's not as much of a hookup culture.
02:39:21.820
Whereas here, when you came to the US, it was much more common.
02:39:25.740
And I think that's because the United States is leading the world into the pit, the downfall
02:40:10.680
Men are pissing you off in some way that you want to rant about?
02:40:19.380
I think I've been always dating for the past 10 years and I was...
02:40:26.820
And it was just so frustrating to actually meet people that wanted something serious.
02:40:37.940
Or even not having the basic needs of being a man.
02:40:52.580
So one time I went on a date and the guy did open the door for me.
02:41:47.420
It's about the act of thinking about that person and caring about her.
02:41:51.660
It's another like five minutes like, hey, I was thinking about you.
02:42:03.580
I think that most guys won't get flowers until they die.
02:42:52.860
Like, the woman, I guess, could cook for the man.
02:42:58.620
You said that there was not that many men that opened the door for you, though?
02:43:35.880
Like, no, I'm just making fun of you because you were like so shy about that.
02:43:47.560
We've sort of touched on this at different points in the show.
02:43:51.100
We're talking about, oh, we're in 2023, equality, men and women are equal, all this stuff, right?
02:43:56.700
But why is there this expectation on men to perform all these things?
02:44:02.620
But, like, don't you expect anything from a woman?
02:44:04.780
Like, what do you think is nice for you to receive from a woman?
02:44:08.500
It would be nice, but women don't generally, like, they don't really.
02:44:13.220
Women forget about gender roles when it comes to men.
02:44:15.740
Like, when it's, like, on their end, they're like, oh, equality and everything.
02:44:19.600
But then when it's like, oh, the men has to do, the men has to pay for the check.
02:44:25.440
Yeah, like, the men has to usually, like, when we argued earlier or, I guess, debated, right?
02:44:30.440
We were talking about how the men usually is the provider and usually is the one paying for the check, you know?
02:44:35.000
And she said, well, I pay for the check, but, like, usually the men is expected to pay for the check, you know?
02:44:39.600
It's those gender roles that she was trying to say.
02:44:44.020
But, like, in reality, generally, the men usually have to pay.
02:44:47.980
The woman is expected, like, to cook and to clean the house.
02:44:50.880
Yeah, I mean, that's the equality of it, you know?
02:44:53.120
There's, like, they have their gender roles, but, like, you can't compare a lot of things.
02:44:58.600
What are romantic things that you like from a woman?
02:45:12.900
Like, Keita and I were talking about how we send letters for, like, the people that we date.
02:45:31.480
Yeah, but, like, you say women are not romantic.
02:45:35.040
I just wanted to ask you, what do you get from a date?
02:45:39.540
Don't you both, like, have, like, this, like, chemistry, which is, like, romantic...
02:45:53.000
But, you know, like, if I was dating a girl, like, her cooking me a meal, you know, would be nice.
02:45:59.440
Doing for the partner, nice things doing for the partner.
02:46:01.620
I think that's a really good thing, good base for a relationship.
02:46:07.080
Would you like if the girl, like, bought you flowers or sent you letters or would you...
02:46:12.940
I want a girl to simp for me, but it doesn't mean I'm going to get it.
02:46:19.520
I would love if a girl simped for me, but they don't.
02:46:23.060
Like, if you could fall falling for them, like...
02:46:30.440
Brian, why don't you think they do that for you?
02:47:03.800
Brian, you're putting out all these standards, and you want a girl to simp for you.
02:47:07.660
You have all these qualities, and then you, like, throw it out the window by openly saying
02:47:36.400
Anyways, I do have a preference for it, but hold on.
02:47:50.980
You don't see us going like, why would I pay for a man?
02:48:04.560
Yeah, you want someone to do all that for you, but you're not willing to put it out?
02:48:11.300
It would be wonderful if a girl simped for me, but it's not...
02:48:27.160
A little bit, but then there's headaches also, but that's another...
02:48:42.180
Wait, okay, so you guys have thrown a couple different conversational topics at me right now.
02:48:50.520
So you guys don't like that I grimaced when someone said, open the door for a woman?
02:49:07.020
Or for example, it's just that if you add that, it's just...
02:49:10.480
Well, the girl you're taking on a date, I mean, I would take a lady to the date.
02:49:52.620
Like, okay, if I meet a girl on a dating app, more likely than not, she's talking to multiple
02:50:01.680
She's sleeping with at least one, two, or three other guys.
02:50:37.440
Most men are so starved for female attention, for sex, for intimacy, for anything.
02:50:47.000
I think you have to understand the amount of options that even an average woman has is...
02:50:59.440
An average woman has more options than, like, a really good-looking guy.
02:51:22.560
Look, my experience and the experience of many men has been that in today's day and age,
02:51:29.300
in 2022, the days of dating one person at a time are gone.
02:51:40.140
If I'm going on a date with a girl, and most girls are not necessarily going to be up front with this,
02:51:45.500
I'm going into any given date, assuming she's sleeping with at least one other guy.
02:52:00.000
But I would say the majority of women have some...
02:52:13.700
I was laughing about a comment about the fake nun turning him on.
02:52:19.580
But no, I know what you're trying to say, but if I'm saying a lot of guys have that mindset,
02:52:25.720
But they're like, oh, she's talking to a lot of guys.
02:52:27.400
But if you go in there with that mindset, you're literally going to be thinking that.
02:52:38.340
And you're like, she's going to choose me over every other guy.
02:52:44.160
You're saying she's going to choose me over all the other guys.
02:52:47.200
How far into the relationship is she going to cut off all those options?
02:52:55.900
I don't even want it to get started if she's sleeping with another guy.
02:53:03.280
I don't want anything from you if you're sleeping with another guy.
02:53:21.120
And just to be clear, women can feel the exact same way.
02:53:24.660
If a woman says, he's a player, he's got three other girls right now, do I really want to try to pursue him?
02:53:30.800
Am I going to just get caught in a situationship with him and then we're going to fuck for six months and then he's on to the next one?
02:53:36.500
But then you'll be playing the assumption game because you'll be assuming all these things.
02:53:42.280
I know, but you have to be straight up in front with them and just be like, all right, what is this?
02:53:56.280
My sense is, if I were to ask a girl straight up, like, before we even meet on a first date...
02:54:03.380
I think it should be fine to ask, but most girls are probably going to have an issue with it.
02:54:06.860
If I say, by the way, are you fucking someone else right now?
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Even if she's not, like, or even if she is, one, she might lie.
02:54:15.780
She's going to be like, that's none of your fucking business.
02:54:19.720
You gotta ask what the person wants, because, like, maybe the person's, like, looking for a relationship, then probably they're not fucking around, you know?
02:54:27.080
But then, if you are, like, okay, I'm open to dating, meeting other people, obviously.
02:54:31.680
But I know there's some fucked up girls out there that date, like, several guys at the same time, and they're playing them.
02:54:36.780
You know, she's just like, all right, which one do I pick, you know, to a certain point?
02:54:42.000
So, like, I feel like there's a certain point, this could be a good question, a certain point where, like, you have to decide, all right, how long into this, like, talking stage, how many dates do you have to go on before you're just like, all right, are we going to, like, be just us talking, or are you talking to other people, you know?
02:55:00.360
Yeah, you can't just play the assumption game and be like, oh...
02:55:02.600
You gotta be the same, like, talk about it, obviously, communication.
02:55:05.080
Yeah, because if not, they're just gonna be like, oh, they haven't asked me, it's okay if I talk to other guys, this isn't serious, you know?
02:55:14.240
Ryan, I know what you mean, man, I'm on your side.
02:55:17.260
I know what you mean, but, like, you have to ask, you have to ask them.
02:55:23.540
Well, are you directing your anger towards women or towards the dating?
02:55:41.040
I can see what's happening in the dating marketplace, and I'm not some guy that's gonna go on a date with a girl and assume she's not sleeping with another guy or talking to multiple other guys.
02:55:52.340
Is that her fault or is that dating culture's fault?
02:56:06.180
Well, there's a culture that promotes hooking up, casual sex, date a bunch of people.
02:56:13.680
So the, the society, the culture promotes it, but also as an individual, on an individual level, you have agency.
02:56:19.540
So despite the degeneracy of Western society, you as an individual, as a man or a woman could still say, you know what?
02:56:30.360
I'm not gonna fuck a new guy, two new guys every single weekend.
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So you have agency and you have accountability.
02:56:44.280
You don't have, look, people can, are free to do whatever they want.
02:56:49.360
The thought of, just the, okay, the thought of...
02:56:53.100
You're putting your time in a girl who's probably putting in time with other guys at the same time.
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I'm too busy to be dating three girls at a time, to be sleeping.
02:57:00.580
Also, I just don't want the headache too, but...
02:57:03.040
Yeah, I know, but you're gonna let that stop you from, like, talking to one girl that you like.
02:57:06.420
Because you're like, oh, she's probably talking to another guy.
02:57:08.400
You can't go in a relationship, like, thinking, alright, we went on one date or we talked to her, like, a couple hours.
02:57:13.820
She should cut off every guy right there and there.
02:57:16.780
She just shouldn't be, this is gonna be a hot take, she just shouldn't be talking to any other guys.
02:57:22.160
But other guys, the thing is, like, they've already been conversating, like...
02:57:25.600
In fact, let me, hold on, let me just say this.
02:57:26.920
In fact, I think every single woman should just, before they meet me,
02:57:32.500
for at least a period of three years, should be celibate.
02:57:45.800
Before you've even met me, I think you should have been celibate.
02:57:58.280
And I kind of, like, see how much you had to have in common to make it work.
02:58:05.380
And even though I had, like, a lot in common, even like this, it didn't work.
02:58:08.900
So I feel like that's why people right now are, like, talking to more people.
02:58:13.760
Because if you only talk to one person, and this person is not, like, exactly, like, what
02:58:21.180
you needed, you're gonna take forever to find your partner.
02:58:25.040
So, like, if you are just chatting with people, like, what is the matter?
02:58:30.380
For sure, like, sex is another level of things.
02:58:32.940
But, like, just talking to people to get to know them.
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And then they're, like, okay, this guy is really nice.
02:58:41.720
I think Brian thinks, like, they're talking to different dudes, sending news to, like,
02:58:46.100
But, like, realistically, in my shoes, the way I view it, the reason I'm able to view
02:58:50.100
it that way, you know, is because I have been in that spot where I was talking to, like,
02:58:53.560
several girls, but, like, not in a certain way to, like, date them.
02:58:57.000
You know, but once, you know, one specific girl, let's say, I was interested in them.
02:59:01.460
Obviously, I wouldn't stop talking to other people until, like, that was a serious, it
02:59:07.920
So, it has to be that point where it's, like, okay, this is serious.
02:59:10.560
And then from that point on, that's when you should cut someone off.
02:59:13.240
I shouldn't automatically cut every girl off from talking to me because this one girl,
02:59:20.040
So, if you're just talking, like, there's no sex.
02:59:31.100
She's hooking up with, like, two other dudes, but kind of, like, she's not sure.
02:59:36.460
And then there's, like, other guys that are, like, circling into the carousel, the picture.
02:59:50.000
It's really, it's honestly really not that hard to take a bit of time, just be talking
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Like, when I met, there was this guy that I was dating that we met on Tinder.
03:00:09.540
And then we started talking two months before he was, like, going to the city that we were
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And then by one week, like, talking to him on Tinder, I was so in love with him that I
03:00:22.840
didn't talk to anyone else, even though we only met in person after two weeks.
03:00:28.240
But realistically, a lot of girls will continue to talk to other dudes.
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Yes, because I was, like, emotionally connected with him.
03:00:34.400
So, like, if, like, he invited, like, random, like, one, two, three, four, five girls.
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Like, why for you is so tough to, like, believe that there are girls there that can do that
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There are girls that will only talk to you, even, well, it's rare.
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Even from the get-go, from the very beginning, they're only talking to you.
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We live in a day and age where there's situationships, there's hookups, there's friends with benefits.
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Most of the time, someone has someone in the picture already.
03:01:14.980
A lot of girls, a lot of girls are, like, really never truly single.
03:01:20.560
But, like, if that's all you need, it's rare because, like, that's how love is, right?
03:01:25.360
Like, it's so, if love was easy, if it was easy to find your soulmate, you would find, like,
03:01:33.780
So, if that's what you need from a girl, and, like, it's going to be rare.
03:01:51.880
It's rare to find what you want and what you need.
03:01:56.040
But, okay, this all stemmed from me kind of, like, tweaking about opening a car door for a girl.
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And I guess the point I'm trying to make is, first off, guys who do the nice things, men are realizing that when we do the right thing, when we're nice, when we buy you flowers, when we open the car door, when we're gentlemen, it doesn't work.
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A guy can do all the right things, all the nice things.
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And then women don't reward that sort of behavior.
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If a guy bought you flowers on the first date, that guy, like, you're not...
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Girls are going to be like, this guy's a fucking clown.
03:02:53.460
Because, like, the girl that does what you want, they are rare.
03:02:57.500
So, like, if you ever treat all girls in this bar, like, this low bar level that you were saying, like, I'm not going to buy her flowers because she's never going to, like, reward me for that.
03:03:07.840
Then you are never going to find the rare girl because she's like, okay, he doesn't give me flowers.
03:03:14.060
Like, why are you giving already thinking about the expectation?
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You give because that's your person and that's your personality.
03:03:20.220
I know plenty of girls that go back to their girlfriends and are like, oh, my God, yeah, like, he brought me flowers.
03:03:25.800
Like, she was excited about it, about that one guy that opened my door.
03:03:32.080
I'm not saying you're a simp, but you're simping for them.
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I've been debating with them the whole podcast.
03:03:45.880
So, you've heard girls say, oh, he got me flowers on the first date.
03:03:56.720
And then the guy who's a dickhead, who's an asshole, who's a jerk, who's a bad boy...
03:03:59.640
And who's straight up and just straight to the point.
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So, guys are starting to see this, and we're starting to say, hold on.
03:04:12.840
The dickheads over here get in their pants for you.
03:04:14.760
And the jerks, the assholes, the bad boys, they're the ones getting laid.
03:04:21.980
But that's how we end up with a culture where every guy's just a dick, you know?
03:04:26.620
Like, I've been through that same scenario, but I just had to, like...
03:04:32.460
Honestly, I'm not going to let them change my morals because some other dude that was
03:04:48.420
I'm literally going to get so much hate from this chat because I know the audience that
03:04:52.740
You're going to hear the, take the red pill, bro.
03:04:55.800
Why is there a trope of women being attracted to bad boys?
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You could be a gentleman and a, and I feel like a, not, not a dickhead, but like be a
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nice, I guess, bad boy, if you want to say, you know?
03:05:14.140
So, and I'll get the super chats in a sec here, guys.
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So I guess the reason why I don't want to pay for a girl's meal, I don't want to open
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No, I'm just like saying the list of everything you want to do while you want a girl to sing
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Unless you do a take her out on the date, then maybe, maybe like if you're asking her to
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take her out on the date, that's the only argument that I would say.
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When she's my girlfriend, then I'll pay for a trip to, like, that's fine.
03:05:52.580
You got to be different than all the other, like, dickhead guys.
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No, I'm not saying, no, I'm saying you got to make an impression, like, opening the door.
03:06:01.260
I'm not saying bring her flowers on her, on her, on the first date.
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But, like, I wouldn't, I don't think I've, I've ever done that on the first date, bring
03:06:19.460
Here's, here's an example I've, I've often given to sort of illustrate my point for why
03:06:25.500
I, I'm hesitant to want to do some of the gentleman type things.
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Opening the car door, like, doing all these gestures, paying for the date, all this stuff.
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I, I still adhere to my traditional gender roles in the sense of, I'm going to take initiative.
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I'm going to be the one, you know, making the steps to make that happen, doing the follow
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But when it comes to the actual date, getting on the date, as far as paying for the date
03:07:04.060
And then she gives me the, an ass out at the end of the date.
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Date gives me an ass out hug, you know, a side hug or whatever she got.
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She takes the to go bag to the guy's house who she's sleeping with.
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She takes the to go bag to the guy's house who she's sleeping with, who by the way, never
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Because he's an exceptionally, exceptionally attractive or whatever.
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Because I'm a G and I don't pay for girls' meals.
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Is this like a story that they made up in their head or did this happen?
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Okay, but then you're just out with the wrong girl.
03:08:15.520
Yeah, Brian, that seems like a lack of judgment.
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If they're going to do that, then they're going to do that.
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If you take them out, then that's your choice to take them out.
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You can tell when somebody will be taking advantage of you.
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Look, the way I see it, a lot of guys, and I'm not even trying to get at you, Brian,
03:08:35.480
but a lot of guys will put up a shield to not be hurt and not be taken advantage of like that
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because a lot of guys don't get that ROI, like someone was saying in the comments,
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So like you're treating this woman right, you're opening your door right,
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you're doing everything right, and then it doesn't fucking matter
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because the guy doing half the shit you are is getting further than you, you know?
03:08:56.440
And that's why like a lot of guys put that shield up, and then they're just like,
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I'm just going to do what they're doing, and then hopefully that works.
03:09:03.880
But the thing is, what I'm trying to say, which might make me a simp or whatever,
03:09:08.740
I will not change my character because of that girl.
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Literally, I'll just be like, okay, screw her, like go, like you're literally not even worth my time, you know?
03:09:23.200
Like there's nothing wrong with being a nice guy, and there's nothing wrong with dating how you want to date.
03:09:27.060
No, and I've been through that phase where I was like, you know what, I'm going to be the dick,
03:09:30.240
I'm going to be like, and trust me, I've been through that phase where I just did not give a shit,
03:09:37.180
Because it's exactly like what we were saying, like those guys who are getting a lot of girls
03:09:41.660
and doing low effort, like what kind of girls are those who accept that kind of behavior?
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There are some very unassuming women who are sleeping with other men while they're dating you.
03:10:24.240
Oh, we were saying that like the guys who does low effort get like more girls,
03:10:30.740
but those girls are also like girls who accept this kind of behavior.
03:10:53.240
No, I, I wouldn't, I would say that specific example where she brings the doggy bag is,
03:11:02.940
But I mean, what might be less extreme is you go out on a date with a girl, you pay for everything.
03:11:08.080
But she's also, she has a guy that she's hooking up with.
03:11:11.640
She might not bring the food that you paid for to him so he can eat the food that you paid for.
03:11:17.500
But women are sleeping with multiple men and going on dates.
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What about men that are paying, expecting already that the girl has to sleep with her on the first date?
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Women can object to that just as equally as I object to it.
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Because why would a woman want to sleep with someone where they know that the relationship is transactional?
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Like why would you want to sleep with someone if they're like buying you dinner for the sake of sleeping with you?
03:11:53.860
It's not about paying for the dinner and, oh, I paid for your dinner.
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There's no expectation of paying for the dinner.
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It's I am adhering to my traditional gender role.
03:12:12.780
I am using resources, and you're sleeping with somebody else.
03:12:25.280
After the first date, though, I mean, I personally wouldn't...
03:12:30.020
Brian, if you think that the majority of people are like sleeping with people, then how could you expect that, that someone is like celibate?
03:12:36.740
And then how could you get mad at them if you expect for most people to be celibate or most people to be sleeping with people?
03:12:41.900
I feel like you think everyone is sleeping with everyone, then why would you expect that?
03:12:48.980
But because I'm aware of the reality, I'm saying that I'm not going to put myself in a position where I feel like I'm getting played.
03:12:58.520
So if I pay for a girl and she's hooking up with another guy, I feel like I'm kind of getting played.
03:13:05.580
I feel like you are seeing a woman as an object.
03:13:11.300
Like you are paying for an Uber expecting that you are buying a car.
03:13:15.300
Like you are going on the first date, you are not buying the girl.
03:13:19.460
Like you cannot say, okay, we are going on this first date.
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He means like he's investing into like the time.
03:13:33.720
Well, Brian, if you're not being a traditional man, then why would you expect women to be traditional?
03:13:38.640
He wouldn't be a traditional man because he doesn't expect a woman to be traditional.
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Maybe you're not going to go market yourself as a traditional man.
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Traditional in the sense that she's not fucking other guys.
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It's a big ask to like be trying to pursue someone and not want someone you're pursuing
03:14:06.520
who could potentially be your future girlfriend, who could potentially be the future, your future
03:14:10.920
wife, who could be the mother, the future mother of your children.
03:14:13.860
And it's not crazy to be like, hmm, yeah, when we met, she was fucking three other guys.
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Sorry if that's a shocking standard or boundary or preference for a guy to have.
03:14:38.520
I don't go out on first dates and I'm like, hey, how many people are you fucking around
03:14:43.900
Well, the first date, I feel like the first date is the introduction to that person.
03:14:48.480
I don't feel like that's why I don't think the first date should be even.
03:14:52.700
Should be split because you were getting to know each other.
03:14:56.000
After that, then that from that like introduction date right there, that's where you can like,
03:15:00.560
all right, you don't have like if we're going to keep going forward, you know,
03:15:03.760
like you shouldn't be fucking around with other guys.
03:15:06.420
But like by that first date, I don't think the girls should automatically like be like.
03:15:09.960
Like expecting from the first moment that I'm the one, it's like, I think you really
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have to go through that introduction phase and then obviously.
03:15:20.280
I feel by the second date, that's when like shit shouldn't like be settled.
03:15:24.400
Like I don't think you should be talking really to any other guys in a bad way.
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She shouldn't be talking to anyone, which is clearly possible.
03:15:34.840
She literally was talking to a guy and she was so invested to it that she was like,
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It's not very common, but especially here in California, not at all.
03:15:48.020
I mean, like I was like completely in love and then like I, I could have gone through
03:15:53.780
your road, your like path and say, oh, he must be fucking everyone.
03:16:02.700
I was so in love with him that I was like, okay, I don't need like anyone else because
03:16:08.180
So, you know, like you shouldn't treat girls from your like past experiences or you can
03:16:13.420
find because then you're never going to find this rare girl that you were like trying
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to, or if you find her, you're going to mistreat her or like not treat her.
03:16:23.040
No, like I'm saying like you're not going to give her flowers.
03:16:31.100
I actually think that the girl who isn't first off, and it's not, I don't think it's
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necessarily a given that a girl who is more traditional in the sense that she's only dates
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She's not getting ran through, doesn't have a high body count, whatever.
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It's not necessarily a given that she expects those more traditional gender roles.
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You guys are breaking me, you're wearing me down here.
03:17:10.160
Like girls, if you are not hooking up with anyone, like hit Brian on DMs, please, because
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women don't DM guys, but that's another conversation.
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You need to have faith in yourself and in the world.
03:17:37.760
I could talk about the BDE thing, but that's a whole nother.
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Me, just to respond to that, me thinking in my mind, trying to manifest girls DMing me.
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You cannot manifest that into your life just because you-
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I want Victoria's Secret Models to just DM me all the time.
03:18:14.140
You are choosing a very specific category of girls, right?
03:18:19.140
You are choosing as much as you were saying that girls only choose those top three guys.
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You want hot supermodels or you want someone nice who'll sing for you
03:18:42.180
Women don't DM average guys, whereas average women-
03:18:48.260
I don't think you understand how attention-starved the average guy is.
03:18:53.460
Average guys get almost no matches on dating apps.
03:19:14.480
Everyone's going to treat you like you're a fat, ugly girl.
03:19:20.700
I've seen many ugly girls who have confidence of a pretty girl.
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If you go around being like, girls don't DM me.
03:19:29.240
It's like, do you think a girl wants to DM you?
03:19:33.580
Like, do you think you're putting yourself in an attractive position?
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I know you're standing up for the dudes that are sad about it.
03:19:46.320
Like, do you think someone wants to slide into your DMs if you're complaining about it?
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As a guy, the only way you're going to be getting any girl's attention is either one,
03:20:07.600
you're going to be sending DMs, which like, Brian, I'm not sure if you're out there,
03:20:14.360
So like, you have to be like, honestly, like in a social area where you have the confidence
03:20:18.680
to like, walk up to a girl and like, talk to her.
03:20:23.460
Like, girls get guys walking up to them all the time.
03:20:28.260
When a guy walks up to you and like, talks to you and like, he actually is like, confident
03:20:36.820
It's like, that's the best way you're going to go with it.
03:20:41.480
Unfortunately, the fact we're not getting chased by girls.
03:20:48.680
There's not going to be girls that like, just slide in guys' DMs.
03:20:53.160
No, you just have to like, have the confidence to like, walk up to a girl and be-
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You don't have to go chasing after girls, like go to bars or anything.
03:21:02.720
But like, I guess like you were saying, you're not in college anymore.
03:21:06.320
So like, you're not able to start these conversations with like, random girls on a daily basis.
03:21:11.160
Yeah, college is a great opportunity to organically meet people.
03:21:19.260
I don't, like a lot of people will sometimes meet at work.
03:21:35.500
If you're not making connections with people like, in social areas or at work, then it's just like, it's hard.
03:21:40.720
There's like, you're in that hard spot where there's no girls at your work, girls aren't DMing you, and you're not really going out.
03:22:30.660
I'm trying to make a point is, maybe you guys don't realize, but guys don't get hit
03:22:47.060
What I'm trying to articulate is that it's very different between men and women.
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And if it's really different and that's a system that we live in, then it's not really
03:23:02.640
It's not really individually women's fault for causing that.
03:23:18.280
But I'm not, you shouldn't really blame, like, girls for not hitting on guys.
03:23:21.600
I'm not, I'm not, no, no, I'm not blaming girls.
03:23:28.940
But women, okay, women don't need to DM guys, for starters, because you already have an
03:23:36.260
abundance of options of the guys who are DMing you.
03:23:39.840
Um, women typically tend to pick, of the men that pursue them, they tend to pick that way.
03:23:47.720
Um, I guess as far as the girls who DM, ah, what was I going to say?
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The girls who DMed me, ah, fuck, I think I lost it.
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Why does it make you, why does it make you, oh, I remember my point.
03:24:04.660
Um, also keep in mind, like I'm, I'm not trying to like brag or anything, but I've been out
03:24:16.120
To be fair, my audience is like predominantly men.
03:24:20.540
But like girls are not sliding into my DMs and that's with me on social media.
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If I was a girl with my following, holy fuck, my, my inbox would be insane.
03:24:42.500
If you want more DMs, hypothetically, if you're.
03:24:51.800
You're like complaining and I don't know what to say.
03:24:55.700
I agree, but like, yeah, I, I don't know if there is a solution because it comes like
03:25:06.080
Have you ever seen those Twitch streamers that are guys who like pretend to be girls and
03:25:15.620
And like, it seems like they solve their own issue.
03:25:26.500
We got, did I get this one or is this the most recent one?
03:25:36.000
Actually, let's do Twitch first and then I'll get this.
03:25:44.980
Guys, open up a Twitch tab, twitch.tv slash whatever.
03:25:53.660
Eric, could you, uh, snag me a water bottle, please?
03:26:00.240
Polly relationship only works if it's open, only on demand side.
03:26:03.320
A woman fat, I think he means that truly loves, admirers, respects for man, won't ever think
03:26:10.460
A man can hook up with others and still love you.
03:26:16.220
Dude, really appreciate the support, Zentience.
03:26:17.920
I think this is, uh, the first time I've seen you, um, I think this is the first time
03:26:27.700
I, I'm pretty sure I've seen you in, uh, fresh and fit.
03:26:29.940
Uh, dude, thank you so much for the support, man.
03:26:35.020
Uh, Miss Brazil is like the nun, in-depth and introspective as a blank sheet of paper.
03:26:41.080
Miss Brazil will never find another guy like him.
03:26:43.660
If she settles, she will undoubtedly, undoubtedly get the simp and subsequent chats.
03:26:50.060
Modern women lack cost-benefit analysis of their men.
03:27:13.880
That's exactly, I don't want to find someone like him because it didn't work out.
03:27:38.020
Invest in cat food because there's going to be a lot of single people in the coming years.
03:27:55.700
Morgan Stanley, a global leader in investment banking, predicts that by 2030, 45% of women
03:28:04.260
Do they feel differently about that stat based on their experience dating?
03:28:27.020
Take her on a cheap first date until she proves and earns your chivalry.
03:28:31.060
I'm sure a lot of guys would love to pull out the stops on a first date, but we've been
03:28:41.940
The likelihood of any given first date nowadays going to the second date leading to a relationship
03:28:49.160
Also, I'm not sure if you guys have heard of this term, foodie calls, foodie, a foodie
03:28:55.940
So, a girl will go on a date with the sole intention of just getting a free meal.
03:29:05.580
Yeah, and they actually, some professor at some California university did a study on it,
03:29:09.540
and he found like 50% of the women that he polled admitted to have gone on a date with
03:29:20.580
Actually, Eric, it might be in the studies folder if you want to pull it up.
03:29:26.080
Yeah, that's the type of things that girls do that made, made Brian not want to pay for
03:29:32.840
Bro, I, I mean, I've had, I've, I've had foodie calls.
03:29:35.900
I've not had the doggy bag experience, but I've, I've definitely had girls.
03:29:43.000
Where she brings the doggy bag that I, of the food that I paid for to the guy that
03:29:57.320
I'm mitigating my risks, I guess you could say.
03:30:11.360
All right, we have, uh, Zentience with the 50, dude, Zentience are fucking legend, dude.
03:30:21.240
The flower door opening topic is banal at best since men don't benefit from any of that.
03:30:25.600
The bad boys always get the cheeks for free while Poindexter pays for everything while
03:30:29.520
waiting for a chance while losing money and his pride.
03:30:35.400
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of men are starting to wake up because I think what you see happen
03:30:41.740
a lot is women, when they're younger, they're chasing after the exciting guy, the really
03:30:47.920
hot guys, the attractive guys, the bad boys, whatever.
03:30:50.300
And then when it comes time to have a family and settle down, you're going to go for the
03:30:57.840
And I mean, if you can get the whole package, you'll go for it, but you're going to go for
03:31:11.300
Like, I don't know, Sheryl Sandberg, she was the CEO of Facebook.
03:31:15.740
She wrote a book and in the book she said, women, you should date in your youth the bad
03:31:23.000
boys, the jerks, the assholes, the commitment phobic boys, get them out of your system.
03:31:28.580
And then there's nothing sexier than just a nice, the nice guy for when you want to settle
03:31:34.740
down and commit, when you need a guy to be a workhorse and a slave and a provider.
03:31:40.320
Men are starting to wake up to that and we're like, okay, you wouldn't have gone for us
03:31:48.700
You were chasing after these types of guys when we were younger.
03:31:51.920
So a lot of guys are saying, if you, if I couldn't have got you when you were young,
03:32:14.460
I've been trying to learn Portuguese these days.
03:32:35.840
I feel you, Brian, but personally, I have no issue with a girl having been talking to other
03:32:50.860
But if you ask a lot of girls, if a guy said, hey, we should split the bill, a lot of girls
03:32:55.180
will say, there's not going to be a second date.
03:33:21.460
The lack of understanding regarding feminine boss babes, mindset, et cetera, shows him placating
03:33:26.980
Sit down, pay attention, and listen to the men talk.
03:33:29.600
Weakness emanates from men who feel rather than he who thinks.
03:33:38.380
Honestly, it just sounds like insecure men, bro.
03:34:05.280
By the way, would you guys date a guy whose first name was Chaz?
03:34:11.760
I threw you under the bus, but I'm just curious.
03:34:41.000
Chaz, would you be willing to tell a man before a first date that you're seeing other
03:34:44.120
men if he, oh, this is a, this, thank you, Chaz.
03:34:46.900
So would you be willing to tell a man before a first date that you're seeing other men if
03:35:01.940
Would you be like, that's kind of none of your business?
03:35:05.500
I would just assume that he's asking because he's overly concerned.
03:35:10.000
So I would like to alleviate that and just answer.
03:35:15.640
Would you view him slightly negatively if he asked something like that?
03:35:23.060
Honestly, I, honestly, I, I think I would be a little like put off by it.
03:35:26.980
I'd be like, I don't think you should be concerned about that.
03:35:33.440
So you wouldn't, for example, if you knew that a guy, and I will go around the table on
03:35:38.520
If you knew that the guy was, let's say you wanted to pursue someone for a long-term
03:35:45.060
You knew he was sleeping with seven other women that wouldn't be part of your, um, analysis.
03:35:53.260
What's the word equation of maybe I don't want to date this guy.
03:35:59.920
Would I want to date someone that's dating seven other people?
03:36:06.200
But, but I want to maybe challenge you on trying to reframe, reframe that.
03:36:11.940
Maybe he's asking because he, he won't, he's not just going to fucking chuck you.
03:36:16.620
He's not going to do, he doesn't want to one night stand with you.
03:36:21.040
He actually wants to pursue a long-term serious relationship with you.
03:36:27.300
So could you reframe it like that to be like, Oh, actually this is a genuine guy who actually
03:36:40.600
So would you be willing to tell a guy before a first date that you're seeing other men
03:36:48.480
But that's also like a red flag for me as part.
03:36:50.680
Like, why would you want to know that in the beginning?
03:36:52.840
Obviously in the beginning you're always dating, you know, you're maybe talking to somebody.
03:37:07.380
Cause then you don't, you go to the first date, it gets another person, right?
03:37:11.840
Like it doesn't matter because that, I mean, yeah, obviously I wouldn't want to go out
03:37:19.620
on a date with a guy knowing that he's going out with seven other girls.
03:37:23.720
But I already assume this person is already talking with other people.
03:37:29.540
And maybe if we connect, he would choose me, then automatically those other people won't
03:37:44.560
So, well, I can tell you why you asked why a guy would want to know that.
03:37:55.780
I can tell you why, for example, I might want to ask that question.
03:37:59.800
If I asked the question and the girl was honest with me and she said, hey, you know what?
03:38:03.880
Yes, Brian, I'm sleeping with two other guys right now.
03:38:09.500
But I don't, I no longer want to go on a date with you.
03:38:16.880
Why am I not compatible with the girl that's sleeping with three other men?
03:38:23.180
Like, you were even saying if the girl is talking, seeing other people, that doesn't necessarily
03:38:29.620
But let's say I have planned two dates this week.
03:38:34.300
And you have asked me, are you seeing other people?
03:38:41.660
You, it's not like you go in one day, you're finding the way.
03:38:45.520
And you're already assuming that's like also insecurity.
03:38:49.260
You're asking those questions already to cause a problem.
03:38:54.480
I think it's like values, what he's talking about.
03:38:59.140
Well, what you call insecurity, I call having a boundary.
03:39:03.080
So, you would only go out on a date if the girl is not talking to anybody?
03:39:08.960
I accept that women are probably talking or inter-talking to other guys.
03:39:15.220
However, if I find out that she's currently sleeping with another guy, now how would I
03:39:21.500
Most girls are either not gonna, they're not gonna be upfront about that.
03:39:30.480
He wants to know if he's wasting his time or not.
03:39:32.400
Yeah, but the girl, exactly what you said, before going to the first date, you're messaging,
03:39:37.700
I mean, I'm not agreeing with like having to ask that on the first date, but like if
03:39:40.920
you do somehow find out, he wants to know if he's of importance to her that she's not
03:39:47.720
Yeah, so if I find out, or if somehow we're talking, maybe when we're on the phone call,
03:39:52.780
it comes up organically, we're talking about previous relationships, and I don't know,
03:40:00.220
I mean, certainly it'd be nice if you could just be straight up and just be like, hey,
03:40:03.420
are you hooking up with other people right now?
03:40:05.060
But I don't know, maybe I should start doing that, to be honest, but they're just, I wouldn't
03:40:21.000
I wouldn't want to as well, but it's not a question that I think, I mean, it's really
03:40:28.560
Like, I think, obviously, this is the problem with dating apps, because you don't know them,
03:40:36.080
but if you meet somebody in real life, mutual friends, in a bar, you can tell a little bit,
03:40:43.340
like, it's not like it's going to give it away how many people they're sleeping with,
03:40:45.820
but you can tell their values, and then you would take them on the first date, you seem
03:40:49.880
like, okay, this girl is nice, has good values, I want to take them on a date.
03:40:53.440
You're going to scare the person if you're like, are you sleeping with other people?
03:40:56.680
Well, perhaps, maybe, but if she's not, then, I mean, I think there's also more eloquent
03:41:07.580
You could say, are you seeing anybody else right now?
03:41:10.900
Or instead of saying, hey, are you fucking anybody else right now?
03:41:13.760
I think if you ask someone, hey, just, you could, here's how I might frame it if I were
03:41:18.980
to overtly, if I were to just straight up ask them, I might frame it like this.
03:41:23.180
I might say, hey, listen, I just want to be upfront with you.
03:41:32.940
I'm not saying we're going to be boyfriend, girlfriend right away, but that is, I am kind
03:41:37.120
of dating with a purpose, and just, you know, I'd like to know, I kind of fucked up the last
03:41:41.360
part, but, you know, are you currently seeing other guys right now?
03:41:47.040
That might be a better landing for that sort of question, but, yeah.
03:41:52.940
Yeah, if you frame it like that, that's a point.
03:41:55.800
And that's true for me, because I'm not interested in just running through a bunch of girls.
03:42:04.240
Having sex with a bunch of different girls once, twice, and then never talking to them
03:42:14.560
And I value, and you know what's interesting when it comes to sex, right?
03:42:21.440
First off, the most consistent and regular sex that you're going to have is within a relationship,
03:42:29.600
But you're going to have the most consistent sex, you're going to have the best sex, because
03:42:36.160
I mean, I think anyways, the best sex that you're going to have with someone is you trust
03:42:43.180
each other, you love each other, you have comfort, you have a connection, you, there's
03:42:47.880
an, excuse me, getting tongue-tied here, there's an emotional connection.
03:42:51.980
And then just on a purely physical realm, you know, there's a, you know what they like,
03:42:58.740
And so, yeah, so, I don't know, I've never, me personally, maybe I'm different in this
03:43:05.660
way, I've never been interested in just sleeping with a whole bunch of girls.
03:43:08.780
It doesn't, it doesn't, oh, wow, that's striking, you look great in that.
03:43:15.560
It doesn't interest me to just run through a bunch of girls.
03:43:17.760
I value more so long-term, serious relationships.
03:43:20.720
Obviously, in that scenario that you had put, it's true, but it's just that it sounded
03:43:26.320
like, oh, if the girl is going on a different date, I'm not saying sleeping, but different
03:43:31.780
dates, it's a wrong thing, you know, but it shouldn't be, because you're getting to know
03:43:35.740
people, especially from dating apps, because you don't know anything.
03:43:39.120
All you see is just, like, a picture and how tall they are, and you don't know anything.
03:43:43.500
You don't know, and sometimes people don't connect on the first day, you don't, there is
03:43:47.760
no, there is such thing as love at first sight, but as you grow older, it's not like, okay,
03:43:54.700
I met you, and I'm in love with you, I'm going to cut everything, I'm not going to meet anybody
03:43:58.380
anymore, you know, like, so I was saying in that sense.
03:44:03.160
I mean, going on five dates a week to me just seems exhausting, to be honest.
03:44:07.900
And, and I also think that, I mean, why is it that we've seen the rise of, because I
03:44:14.580
feel like kind of before social media, and before dating apps, people were more likely
03:44:22.580
to get into relationships, whereas now we have situationships where someone wants a
03:44:29.000
bit, something more, someone doesn't want to commit, and it's because we have such an
03:44:32.840
abundance of options, and I mean, you can't, I don't think you can simultaneously say, I
03:44:41.020
don't like situationships, but also, I know you didn't say that, but people often complain
03:44:45.360
about, oh, situationships, they suck, like, I just want a partner, and then also be going
03:44:51.460
on multiple, like, going on all these dates, too, and entertaining multiple options, so I
03:44:57.800
think that, um, I think it's also a cultural thing, and then, unfortunately, it's how dating
03:45:03.980
is right now for the 20, 30 people, you know, because exactly what you said, there is, like,
03:45:09.320
a bunch of options out there, and that's what I was saying before about the lack, lack of
03:45:14.380
effort, because why are you going to do the same thing for 10 girls that you're going to
03:45:20.920
Well, I mean, to me, it just seems exhausting to be going on a whole bunch of dates with different
03:45:25.540
people, I say, I mean, people can do whatever they want, but I think what would be the most
03:45:31.140
optimum thing for both men and women is talk to someone and really try to just pursue one
03:45:40.760
person at a time, if there's that mutual interest there, um, I mean, it's, it's funny, I think
03:45:47.360
this was about a year ago, I went on a date with a girl who was, I don't know, she was 31
03:45:52.840
or something, why are you laughing, uh, too, what, too old or something, I don't know,
03:45:59.580
no, it was the comments, oh, one of the comments, yeah, went on this date with a girl, 31, like,
03:46:05.260
pretty average girl, uh, well, here's the other thing that I think might be frustrating for
03:46:12.480
a lot of guys, an average woman has so many options, she was, I'm not trying to be mean,
03:46:19.820
but she was average, not particularly remarkable in terms of her personality, she wasn't an
03:46:25.780
exceptionally charismatic, looks wise, average, um, average job, worked, I don't know, she was a
03:46:34.280
nurse or something, she told me, we went on, I went on a date with her, and she told me she had
03:46:41.300
just down, we met on Hinge, she had just downloaded it two days prior, three days prior, she said that,
03:46:48.460
and I think she'd been on it for three days, we had been on it, we went on a date on the third date
03:46:53.360
that, sorry guys, getting tongue tied again, we went on a date the third day that she had the app,
03:46:59.460
she had told me she had already been on one date, and she told me she had two dates planned for the
03:47:03.500
weekend, the way that makes me feel is, well, one, it's just shot, it's kind of crazy to me that
03:47:10.400
someone so average has that degree of options, but that's how it is for women, um, but I was like,
03:47:21.660
I, okay, well, what if I wanted to hang out with you on Saturday, you already got plans, you're gonna
03:47:25.800
go see another guy, the likelihood that I'm, it's going to work out between you and me,
03:47:33.760
you're talking to five other dudes, I'm, I'm checked out, I just, we're done, like, I don't
03:47:42.580
want to pursue it, so, did you just moan? I just burped. Oh, okay, I thought there was a moan.
03:47:50.180
I burp and I moan at the same time, yeah. Oh, wow, okay, um, all right, let's get some super,
03:47:54.920
oh, wait, did we go all the, sorry, did we go all the way around the table on that super chat?
03:47:59.600
No. Okay, we'll do it really quick, we'll get the rest of the soup chats, we'll react to a video,
03:48:06.100
and then we're going to wrap up, um, would you be willing to tell a man before a first date that
03:48:10.840
you're seeing other men if he asked? I don't care, yeah, sure. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool, um, oh,
03:48:21.920
while I, while I have this in mind, Madison, um, we spoke previously, do you remember the thing we
03:48:27.840
spoke about, do you want to bring that up? Um, uh, yeah, we can. You sure? Madison, you're so cute.
03:48:40.460
What is it? Yeah, we can. You sure? Yeah. Ask her one more time. You know what I'm talking about,
03:48:46.520
you know what I'm talking about, though. Okay. Um, you want me to, Jesus, say it, say it.
03:49:05.360
Hold on, actually, before we do that, we'll get to that in a sec. Um, we talked a bit about body
03:49:12.780
count. I want to go around the table on body count. What's your body count, Tristan? Uh,
03:49:20.100
wait, actually, hold on. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Really quick, really quick around the table.
03:49:25.760
Should body count matter? No. Uh, yes. Oh, okay. No. No. That was for her, by the way. Okay. No.
03:49:36.540
No. No. Uh, yes. Okay. What's your body count? 21. Madison, into the mic. Do I have to? You
03:49:51.060
already, you already said it on the last show. I know. Did I? Yeah, you did say it on the last
03:49:55.360
show. Wait. It's the mic, Madison. Um, it's like, um, say it. I'm nervous. You already said it.
03:50:09.620
We can all say it at the same time. Okay. Well, one at a time. Go ahead, Madison. Can I go last?
03:50:15.580
Or middle? No, no, you should go first. You should go first. No, no, no, no, no, Madison, Madison.
03:50:20.760
I won't lie about it. No, but you've already revealed it on the previous show. Did I? Yeah,
03:50:25.540
you did. Yeah, I did. So what is it? Like, 35. 35. Okay. I've been with the same guy since
03:50:32.800
13, so one, obviously. Wow. Okay. Wait, so you're in a long distance relationship? Yeah. Oh,
03:50:45.420
okay. I don't know. I'm not sure. You don't know? No. You want to
03:50:50.740
give us a range? 10, 20, 30, 40? 100? No, no, no. Maybe, like, 20? Like, between,
03:51:00.740
like, 20, 25? Okay. I don't know. Sure. Appreciate the honesty. Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead. Do I have
03:51:07.420
to tell? I mean. You just, hold on, but you said body count doesn't matter, so why the hesitation
03:51:12.240
to reveal? I can, but I think you're going to be surprised, maybe? Go for it. I don't,
03:51:20.420
I have, like, really low. I have one. But you're also just 18, so. I just turned 18.
03:51:27.500
So you still won? Yeah. Okay. All right. Body count? Like, 12? Like, 12? Yes. Okay. Okay.
03:51:40.240
One. One. Are you looking at me like that? I felt so bad. What? I felt so bad. Is that uncommon?
03:51:56.160
Is that unheard of? Is that absurd? It's very beautiful music. Okay. Okay. All right. You know who it is?
03:52:09.880
Say it with me now. Jesus? Oh, my God. Stop the cap. Stop the cap. Stop the cap.
03:52:19.640
What's the actual number? One. Wait. So, okay. As far as the body count of the table goes?
03:52:26.920
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
03:52:48.620
You know what I'm talking about, though, right? I do, yeah.
03:53:14.420
It means you're capping. She's got the blue hair. She's capping.
03:54:07.040
What would you do it with someone if they told you they have herpes?
03:54:13.840
But I feel like no one knows, like, how, um, obviously, like, have safe sex, you know?
03:54:30.720
I guess my question is, because there's a lot of talk about body count, right?
03:54:37.380
But would you so fervently defend promiscuity, casual sex, having high body count, if you got herpes?
03:54:51.040
Like, I think to myself, if I were to catch herpes, by the way, don't have herpes.
03:54:55.380
But if I were to catch it, and I was being promiscuous, I would think to myself, I should not have been so promiscuous.
03:55:08.440
Sleeping with a lot of people at the same time.
03:55:10.900
I don't know, but, like, we say the word numbers.
03:55:14.000
Like, what is, like, a high body count for, like, someone who's 30?
03:55:25.100
I'm a man of God, so I don't disclose my body count.
03:55:30.480
I think body count matters, so I'm not going to disclose my body count.
03:55:39.160
Judging by the stats, I'm going to believe you and say one.
03:55:55.420
I mean, imagine, like, from 18, if you had lost your virginity and then to 32, imagine
03:56:12.880
But the way you are very annoying about that, maybe, like, 10.
03:56:47.140
When it comes to the herpes, right, and body count, I guarantee you,
03:56:56.100
Well, maybe it's not a guarantee, but if a girl got, or anyone got herpes or an incurable
03:57:04.080
STD, they're probably going to take pause and think, maybe I shouldn't have had...
03:57:11.520
Now, you can get an STD in a relationship, sure.
03:57:31.920
I want to commend you because I think, first off, it's...
03:57:35.680
One, it's incredibly brave of you to, one, be honest about your body count, and then,
03:57:42.120
two, to, you know, be willing to disclose your status on the show.
03:57:51.720
And I do think that herpes, it has maybe a stigma attached to it that might not necessarily
03:58:05.360
So, do you have any comments or anything, or anything you want to share about...
03:58:17.060
Because it's so controllable, and people just don't know about it.
03:58:21.480
I feel like you should learn a little more about it before you're like, oh, you have herpes,
03:58:29.180
Let's go around the table really quick on that.
03:58:32.100
If you're talking to a guy, and you liked him, and he told you, obviously, before you hooked
03:58:38.300
up, hey, listen, just want to talk to you, I should let you know, I do have herpes, are
03:58:49.580
Um, I just want to say, first of all, you are very brave, and my answer has nothing to
03:58:56.600
do with, like, you at all, but, like, if we're being real right now, like, that's a
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question that I feel like everyone is going to say no to, unless you have herpes, too.
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Well, actually, well, you told me that you've disclosed to some guys, and they were okay
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with it, be careful, but, uh, but you told them, and they said, I accept the risk.
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These motherfuckers, desperate for some pussy, I mean, anyways, um, what about you?
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Um, no, no, no, if I was in love with them, using protection.
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How would you be, but, I mean, you wouldn't, they disclosed to you, like, the second or
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third date before you have the chance to fall in love with them?
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I've been in love through messages before, right?
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So, like, I fall in love with the conversation, and then, if the sexual chemistry, if the, like,
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physical chemistry happens, then I fall further, but, like, I...
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But you don't fall in love with the guy before you sleep with him, right?
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She's falling in love with someone before she...
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Um, I was just wondering when this was, like...
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We'll react to one video, and then we'll, uh...
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Yeah, but I do commend you, once again, very brave of you to be willing to, uh, talk about
04:01:12.660
Yo, we have Zentine's here with a $50 soup chat.
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I'm ugly, there are legions of simps and other women bolstering their ego, i.e. Lizzo.
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But if men do that, other men will shame them relentlessly.
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Yeah, a guy who's a bum, who is unattractive, like, if he's, like, trying to big up himself,
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Tristan, like, if one of your buddies is like, I'm the fucking shit, dog, and he ain't the
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That Lizzo example is, it's like, don't normalize being, like, unhealthy.
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It's just, I don't know why the fuck that's, like, a trend to be okay with that.
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Man cannot go through life manifesting, believing in truth.
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If I'm a fat, broke man that lives with his mom, I ain't getting no DMs.
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Solution is men have to level up game, or level up money, game, and fitness.
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Yeah, we don't really, I feel like we don't really get the benefit of, like, we have to
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A guy can't just manifest these things into his life, so.
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I think if a woman wants to not be insecure, then she can work on herself, and a guy can
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The only difference is, is that, like, an average guy is gonna struggle to find girls
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to date, whereas an average woman has an abundance of options.
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They might not be the ideal suitor, but, like, any single girl at this table now, it's a Tuesday,
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Any single one of you, it's fucking 11.30, could, like, find a reasonably, a physically
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All right, we got Excel, selfie, $10 soup chat.
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However, you gave her the fuel she needed to get inside that charisma is pretty strong,
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The guy just used you or something, to be honest.
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I mean, he doesn't know anything about our story, so whatever he thinks...
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I think it's an L, when your partner wants to open up the relationship.
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If you're previously in a monogamous relationship,
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and it's not like he's with someone else right now
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why do we revert back to traditional gender roles
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I mean, we do have two Brazilian girls here, though,
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Like, Brazilians has kind of got that little spice.
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Well, let's speak about Ukraine here for a second.
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So, you do have to think that because of men's...
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we have the benefit of these concepts of equality.
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There are no feminists when Russia is invading.
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Should we talk about, like, how biologically we are different, or let's not talk...
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And, you know, there's a lot of talk about equality, you know?
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Are men, like, stronger than women, like, muscles and everything?
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Are you talking about, like, that men has to go to war instead of women?
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Okay, for example, in Ukraine, there was news...
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Well, men between the ages of 18 and 60 had to stay in the country.
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So, while you had men in Ukraine that were getting killed,
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you had women, Ukrainian women, in Dubai and Sweden
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I thought you were just talking about, like, when in war men...
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Like, there are more men than women, not privileged.
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All right, I don't know if you guys can see this.
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So, men, 18 to 25, have to register for the draft here in the United States.
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You don't really hear a lot of women campaigning for the equality when it comes to getting drafted.
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I've aged out, luckily, of the draft, although in some catastrophic scenario, I still technically, I suppose, could get drafted.
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If we were to go to war, you are subject to the draft because of your age.
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The difference is that that's just a biological reality.
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Angel Grablev, I think he's guessing my body count, 99.
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The $10 soup chat, ladies, would it change your view of your boyfriend if he was engaged
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six times and proposed to you with the same ring he promised to six other women?
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That's how men look at women giving their body away.
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It's attempting to explain the feeling that men feel.
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The body count, there's two really clear different things.
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Guys, if you want, get your last minute super chats in.
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Let's watch the one that'll make us the most mad.
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You know what's so attractive about younger women?
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Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
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I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you'd
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In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's
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been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
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I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
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If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right?
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I'm going to be dude number fucking 29, and all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit
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they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
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Like, well, if my last man cheated, I don't give a fuck.
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So if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
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When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
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And also, no, but the truth is this, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
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If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you.
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But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
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Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, I'll just go get a new guy.
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Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
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The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.
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And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.
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Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
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Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or the second or third guy.
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Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
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If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
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She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answer is new date.
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If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
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You just said pull up the video that will get us the most upset.
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But probably not because he's in jail, so I don't think I could.
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Honestly, I was trying to understand it, but he was talking so fast, and then I couldn't really hear.
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Yo, Portuguese bros in the chat, can you translate what Andrew Tate said in Portuguese?
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I mean, he was fast, but I think I could get the main point of it.
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All that, like, Andrew Tate, and like, Andrew Tate, come on.
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I think, at least, I hope 50% of men already know that what Andrew Tate is saying is total bullshit, I hope.
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Yeah, it's not even worth, like, arguing about.
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Will we ever change this person's mind or, like, any of these people?
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Andrew Tate is, and Andrew Tate fans, I don't know.
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Please talk to your mom about worth of women, and then maybe you will get it.
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Yeah, there's nothing to say, but just, I disagree, and separate yourself from that.
04:16:37.280
So, do you guys question why is Andrew Tate so popular?
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No, he's popular because he's, like, loud, and he says controversial things.
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I can give him credit for, you know, getting the notoriety that he has.
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With that being said, I don't agree with anything.
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But it is, kind of, it does take talent to get as big as he did.
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Well, I think Andrew Tate is popular because he is the result of the pendulum swinging the other way.
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I think, actually, at that point, I would agree with you.
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And then, like, Andrew Tate coming up, and everybody's, like, Andrew Tate, wow, wow, wow.
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And I think, obviously, cancel culture goes too far at some point.
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But sometimes it's doing the right job, and it did with Andrew Tate.
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But also, like, cancel culture in terms of, like...
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Cancel culture literally got him removed off social media.
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Didn't he have, like, videos where he literally told...
04:18:17.160
Like, the videos where he was, like, whipping a girl with a belt?
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But I saw also a video where he said that he's only going to Romania, so he's, like...
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Running away from law in the U.S., so he's going to Romania or something?
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One of the reasons was because he has access to the corruption.
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As far as the video goes, the woman who was in it came out and said...
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But it literally is fake news because the woman in the video came out and said,
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Anyways, the woman in the actual video came out and said,
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Like, my hate against Andy Tate comes alone from his opinion.
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Do you want to give your reaction to the video?
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I think Andrew Tate did a very good job in, like, marketing himself at first and saying,
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And he kind of created this character of himself.
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Now, if you really listen to a lot of what he says, like, when he's not playing that character,
04:20:13.780
Like, he says a lot of things that you can agree with.
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And I'm sure if you guys actually heard some videos, other than the viral clips that have
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been, like, chopped up, you guys would agree with a lot with what he says.
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But, like, obviously, what he's saying is it's a little out.
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And there's some things that he just goes too far with, obviously.
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Like, if it, like, I would ask him, honestly, if that was your daughter, like, how would
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You know, like, would that change your viewpoint?
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But, obviously, the viral clips aren't going to show when he's, like, speaking facts.
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They're going to show the crazy, loud ones where he's saying super controversial stuff.
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And that's why it's easy to indoctrinate people.
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Because you can mix a little bit of crazy into normal, and then people just believe everything.
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I do, I do think he, like, says some things that, obviously, are, like, really real.
04:21:31.860
Yo, so, last three, last Super Chats here, then we're going to wrap.
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Funny enough, my name was chosen solely by a woman is what it is.
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Someone that thinks like that girl, Tara, from previous episodes is more my style.
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By the way, just a reminder, we will have a Thursday show, but we're going to be switching
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Darian Conner, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
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Universally, women want a man who provides stability, security, confidence, and kindness.
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You can't disagree with someone and not say why.
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Most men think like Tate, but a man's standards are considered discrimination.
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Do you think it's wrong when it comes to body count?
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Do you guys think it's wrong if a guy, he wants a woman who has a low body count?
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I would say, I mean, and he's not something for me personally.
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If he's like, I want a woman that has low body count.
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But like, if you're like, so fixated on that point with body count, he will probably have a little, like, he will have probably your opinions on dating, too.
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And that's definitely not something I can agree on.
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And then probably dating with, like, that person in me would not go at right well.
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So if you were talking to a guy and he was like, whoa, I really like that.
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So despite it being something that you possess, having a low body count, you would be put off by a guy being desirous of a trait that you possess.
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As the representative for all men in the world, on behalf of all men, we'll stop caring about body count.
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Men's most valuable resources is our time and our money.
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If women do not want to be seen as objects, it is also true.
04:25:49.960
You said that you wish guys put in more effort earlier on in the conversation.
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You wish guys put in more effort on the date or when it comes to courting women?
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No, they wanted me to be, like, for example, my last relationship, he wanted me to be the
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No, I don't want to be the man in the relationship.
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I'm talking about even putting the effort of, like, planning things.
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Usually the person that plans it, they'll pay for it.
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You're not going to plan it and then have the other person pay for it.
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It's different because my relationship, we were together for a long time.
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He doesn't like to be the dominant one in the relationship.
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I think, guys, we're perfectly content doing nothing.
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I don't know if this is about, like, the same for all guys.
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But I don't feel the need to go to brunch with a girl.
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Like, I'm perfectly content just being in a girl's presence.
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I feel like men are pretty easy to please in that sense.
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Like, we're good to just lounge around the house and...
04:27:40.380
One time, I was dating a girl, and she wanted to go to the zoo.
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And that's when I knew this relationship is over.
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Like, once you've gone to the zoo once, do you really need to go...
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YouTube's got some 1080p videos of tigers and shit.
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If the girl wants to go to the zoo, it's no way.
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Like, I don't want to fill up my time with shit.
04:28:24.300
Oh, you don't want to have time to date, and you want a girlfriend.
04:28:30.640
You want that relationship, and you don't have time.
04:28:45.720
There's homebody girls that like to just stay home.
04:28:49.780
Yeah, but even then, you would want somebody to put an effort in the relationship.
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I guess my rationale is I feel like I put in the effort in the beginning, and then I'm just
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going to cruise for the rest of the relationship.
04:29:13.160
So, you're saying you're putting effort in the beginning, but then after when you have
04:29:16.700
He's going to hook her, and then just be like, all right.
04:29:21.020
Because my experience when it comes to dating is I have to...
04:29:28.780
Overwhelmingly, I have to send the first message.
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I have to say, hey, would you like to meet for a drink?
04:29:47.300
That's convenient for someone who's probably...
04:29:49.780
That's convenient to say for someone who's probably never done it themselves.
04:29:58.400
It's so rare for a girl to say, to take that lead, to take the initiative.
04:30:08.520
But it doesn't mean that I'm not going to put any effort on the second,
04:30:13.200
Wait, you already took initiative in first dates.
04:30:31.920
So, like, I guess women out here expect guys to go up to, like...
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I just feel like you just lose time if you're going to wait around for a guy to come up to you.
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If I'm interested, I'm going to show my interest.
04:30:43.700
I guess what I'm trying to say is, for me, at the beginning of the relationship, it feels like, to me, I'm doing, like, 90%, 100% of the effort to trying to get to meet you.
04:30:57.520
It's very rare that a girl is going to, like, propose, hey, let's, I'd like to meet you here at this time, da, da, da.
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If I match with a girl on a dating app, if I don't send the first message, most likely she's not going to send the first message.
04:31:12.800
If I don't say, hey, would you like to grab a drink sometime, she's never going to propose it.
04:31:17.580
I could carry the conversation on and on, and she would just never propose to meet.
04:31:32.660
And my experience in the United States with women is, if I don't take that initiative, it's just never going to happen.
04:31:41.480
Yeah, so you do the effort in the beginning, and in the relationship, the girl would put effort on it, too.
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But I'm not, like, I'm not going to go, I tend to not go above and beyond.
04:32:02.660
It's not really hard to just send a message and be like, do you want to go out for a date?
04:32:10.300
I mean, there is a burden on men to take the initiative.
04:32:26.480
Like, she approached some guys in the first date.
04:32:43.500
Or do you want the guy to initiate the first kiss?
04:32:49.240
If I never initiated the first kiss with the girls I've kissed, the girls I've been with,
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they would have never done, maybe out of desperation after 10 dates,
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We won't, but we'll give you the room and opportunity for you to do that.
04:33:12.980
I honestly, I like being the initiator of the kiss.
04:33:17.940
I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but he's trying to make the point like
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And you guys all stayed quiet because you guys agree.
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The guy is usually the one, or almost always the one that makes it.
04:33:47.000
You can make out with a bunch of people and never fuck them.
04:33:49.520
But I mean, you say like, oh, it's not such a big deal to do that, but it corresponds with
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a risk of rejection at each individual step when we're, okay, asking for the date.
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I mean, why, I don't know why you're laughing, but like.
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It's not hard to be like, Brian, what are you doing after this?
04:34:22.860
Well, I agree with you that it's not hard, but women don't do it, generally speaking.
04:34:36.200
Like, if you're having, if you're letting the girl make the first move, that is feminine
04:34:43.200
You would, okay, you would not prefer that you had to make the first move?
04:34:47.500
You would prefer to make, you would make the first move?
04:34:49.940
Yeah, because then I'm like, okay, like, I'm clearly opening the door for us, you know,
04:35:02.920
I feel like for men right now, like, right now when we are there, we are talking so much
04:35:11.380
You mean, like, guys are more scared to, like, do it?
04:35:14.900
So if I initiate it, it's like, like, a sign that it's okay, you know.
04:35:22.700
I mean, it's like, it's like, pick up some signals, like, read a sign, you know, like,
04:35:27.820
you can give out signals without having to kiss the guy first.
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Some guys just don't, don't know how to pick up the signals, so they're just like, they
04:35:41.920
Then she's giving out mixed signals or the guy just didn't read it right.
04:35:46.280
You know, we could probably continue talking about this forever, but it has, we have been
04:35:53.620
Would guys be considered more desirable if they overstayed their body count?
04:36:04.120
If they overstayed it, like, if they lied about their body count?
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You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
04:36:33.900
I was going to say I'm hoping I can break even soon, but the TikTok and the second channel,
04:36:40.080
So I think finally going to be breaking even, but really appreciate the support.
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I want to give a big thank you to the wonderful panel.
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And big thank you to you, too, who made the drive despite the crazy flooding and storm.
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I don't know if you guys caught at the beginning of the show, but we're here in Santa Barbara.
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Really appreciate it, and thanks to everyone else for coming on.
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I thought it was a really lively conversation, really good conversation, so appreciate it,
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Guys, we will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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That's going to be our last Thursday show, and then we're swapping to Sunday, Tuesday.
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So we'll be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, and that's it, guys.
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Hope you guys have a good night, and yeah, we'll see you next time, guys.