Dating Talk #46
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3 hours and 22 minutes
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201.5335
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230
Summary
In this episode of Whatever We Do, we have our first guest on the show, Kiko! She is joined by her co-host, Kiki, to talk about the recent death of Greg Plitt, the new addition of Carson to the team, and much more!
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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So, a few quick announcements before the show begins.
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I don't know if you see him back there along the picture frame gang, but RIP Greg Plitt.
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Okay, so, this channel is, by the way, sorry for the late start, guys.
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We had something like four or five people flake.
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She was going to be on tonight, but she bailed, unfortunately.
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Oh, I just, I was going to save that for the next time she comes on the show.
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How was that surprising when she came on the podcast to talk about how she wanted to use and show men how they are terrible beings?
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Come to think of it, you might be onto something.
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Can you bring it back, Carson, to the window, Tim?
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By the way, we have Carson's filling in for Eric today.
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And if you want to help out with the show or be on the show, shoot us a DM at whatever.
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We're looking for just, you know, some various help.
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Talent coordinator, studio hand, help with timestamps if you can edit, do clips, shorts, et cetera.
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So without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, indoor school major.
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I'm a bartender, and I'm a sociology major at UCSB.
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I go to UC Santa Barbara, and I'm studying and doing research in biology.
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I'm a bartender, and I'm not currently in school.
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I'm a senior at UCSB studying philosophy and psychology and doing research in psych.
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I thought it was just maybe, like, I don't know.
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So we're going to go around the table once more.
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So what is your current relationship status, your longest relationship, and are you on any
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dating apps that does include seeking arrangements?
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My longest relationship was, like, two and a half years, and I'm on Hinge.
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I've been single since, like, about April, March.
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It's our two-year anniversary is tomorrow, actually.
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And my longest relationship was almost four years, and we were engaged.
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My longest relationship was a year, and I'm not on any dating apps.
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My longest relationship was six years, and I hate dating apps.
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I already know you go about to cap for a few hours straight when I watch this back.
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It's 50 and up if you want TTS so we can hear it.
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And, obviously, we'll pull the super chat back up when we do super chats.
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Hey, Devon, man, thank you for the big $50 super chat.
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So of those of you who said you were single, are you truly single?
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Talking, literally, maybe this meeting, this guy started messaging, like, yesterday, probably
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Oh, is it the guy that you showed me who was shit-talking you?
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What would he have to do in the chat to get a, because he was talking shit to you because
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he saw the show, but then he was, like, trying to hit on you, too, right?
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What would he have to do to get a date with you?
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And then give me a two-week stay so I can travel a part of Europe, and then take me
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That's the way he can make it up to me for harassing me for two months straight.
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By the way, guys, if any women want to be on the show, we are looking for a new, yeah,
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I'm on Hinge and Tinder, and I let men court me and take me out.
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Um, I mean, I guess I've, like, shot my shot, but I've never been, like, I'm taking you
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Let's say the last time you met up with a guy one-on-one.
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I started dating my ex-boyfriend, like, a couple months before the pandemic hit.
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We were together until March of this past year, and I haven't gone on a real date since
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I went on dates with my ex-boyfriend when we were together, but since a first date, like,
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No, I haven't done that since before the pandemic.
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Well, I was sleeping with girls, and I wasn't really interested in dates.
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Well, you two are roommates, so I want you guys to rat on each other.
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But so your last date, you said, was a couple weeks ago?
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And there seems to be some discrepancy between a date, but then you can also, like, you can
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hook up with a guy and it not be considered a date.
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I genuinely think a date is anything where one person plans something.
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Anything where somebody is putting an effort and inviting you to come and enjoy you as their
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So could you, for example, let's say a guy said, come over at like 10 p.m.
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But would you consider that to be a date if you did go over?
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But okay, so for you, you're single, kind of, allegedly.
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I mean, I talk to people, but I'm definitely single.
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I mean, I guess it depends on your definition of a date.
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I could say last week or I could say like a few months ago.
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I mean, the last time I went like out on a date with someone, the way that you were describing
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it, like they invite you somewhere, you do something, I mean, probably a month or two.
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I guess it just depends on what you're talking about.
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Yeah, if a guy's not asking you out, like, you know, hey, let's go out to eat or I picked
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If he's just fucking you, you're like, you know, you're basically ran through.
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But yeah, I would say a few months since like an actual date.
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Um, is the question last time you went on a date?
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Was there a subsequent date or it's just been one?
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Um, I saw him again after, like, he came, he lives far away.
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What is up with you and dating men that don't live within a 30 minute?
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Ventura's like, guys, Ventura's 45 minutes away.
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You're going to commute 45 minutes to see a guy.
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Well, I mean, things are different now because I totaled my car.
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I mean, if he's willing to drive deceive me, I don't know what the problem is.
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The last person I messed around with was my ex.
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I don't know why I'm pausing to build suspense.
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But, I mean, for someone that you would partner with?
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Because I'm not looking to partner with anyone right now.
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Because I was in a relationship majority of my college.
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A lot of the last few years of my life, I haven't learned how to be single and be alone.
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And I need to work on myself and rectifying some things I have going on before I start giving attention to another person.
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So, that's why I'm not really going on dates and stuff.
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So, you're on Hinge, but you're not trying to date right now?
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It's okay to be confused about certain things in life.
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This podcast acts like you have to have everything lined up in your life.
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Well, it's just because, like, yeah, maybe I might want to go out and, like, experience some things.
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And also, I've never even met anybody from a dating app.
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Like, I've had these dating apps for years, and I've never actually met anybody.
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The only person I've ever met from a dating app is because he came into my job and was like, oh, hey, we matched on Tinder.
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We probably never would have met if you didn't just come to my job and see me.
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Because you said healing, but then you said you were hooking up with a whole bunch of people.
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I never said I was hooking up with a whole bunch of people.
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If you're healing, so what are you doing to heal?
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I said not healing, but I said I have to work on some stuff.
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Like, so, for a moment, I was in between houses and stuff.
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I didn't think there was a reason to be dating if I'm in between homes and stuff.
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Two, it's just I want to learn how to be single.
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I've been in a relationship since I was basically 16 years old, hopping to the next person, the next person, the next person.
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I want to give myself some time because I know right now I couldn't probably love somebody the way they want to be loved.
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So, I don't even want to put somebody else in that position.
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I don't know, because I, I guess my base standards is I would expect somebody to have a job, have a car, and do something, like have some type of physical activity that they do besides their job.
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Not just, like, they go to work and then they sit at home all day after.
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Like, either they have, if they like to go to the gym or like to go hiking or something of the sorts.
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So, I would, I want, it's a big, it's important for me if I have a family that the other side can help with that.
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So, so you said they got to be physical, like physically active.
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Physically active in a way that it's shown that if you just sit inside and you just go to work and just fucking loathe after,
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you're not going to be a truly functioning member of society.
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So, I want, it doesn't have to be like, you have to be a gym rat, like super fit or anything.
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I'm just saying, like, they have some hobby besides, like, hopefully not just gaming all day or something.
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You know, I, you know, I might actually have a guy for you.
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Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
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Um, what do you think about, like, would you, we'll go around the table on this.
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Did this person consent to have their profile on here?
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Well, I don't want to roast somebody who's, like, just a random person.
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So, around the table, what do you guys, what do you guys think about this guy?
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I wouldn't picture us coming into contact into a form where a date would ever be the end thing.
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You, Carson, you can scroll down a little bit on that.
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Personally, not my type, but there's somebody for everybody.
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Yeah, he's not really my type, but I see how he could be, like, funny, and he seems like he has a big personality.
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But my guess, sorry to ruin your bit, but my guess is, like, you're gonna, like, tell us that this guy's actually, like, ultra-billionaire YouTube champion of the, like, video game champion of the world or something.
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Um, I love white boys, but, like, colored-eyed white boys, so no offense, not fully my type, just being honest.
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He's got 100k followers on Instagram, but on Twitch, he's big.
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I think he's probably making several million dollars a year.
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I feel like it's hard to say I would or wouldn't date someone just based off of their profile.
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Like, I mean, yeah, if he had a super dope personality and he's a cool guy.
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So, I mean, I agree with you in the sense that I don't want to date a girl that doesn't
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Am I, like, undateable now that I totaled my car?
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Well, I mean, some guys probably care about it less, but for me, I'm just...
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And don't you just hate it when your cat wakes you up like this?
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Oh, by the way, Carson, for the TTS stuff, 50 and
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You don't have to show the soup chat, but we will pull it back up.
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How can the British Patriot literally say gold digger alert when none of us were even
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You might need to hide this just so I can read it really quick.
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Carson, in the Sources tab, do you see where it says GH5 Center?
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Click the eyeball really quick just to hide this.
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My TikTok is mostly Asian women in Canada for some reason.
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We're not going to play the video, but there's not much else to it.
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The shorties who have to lie about their heights on dating apps.
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And then the description, too many 511s capping on Hinge right now.
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And Carson, can you just hit the eyeball again on the GH5?
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So, do you guys think it's wrong if a guy hides, or sorry, doesn't hide, if a guy lies
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It's just weird as fuck, because if your point is to meet people off the dating app, what
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I have friends who overly edit their photos and use Face app and all this stuff.
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I'm like, what do you do when you meet a dude or somebody in person, and they can't even
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Or you're saying you're six foot, and you walk up to me, and you're shorter than me
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It's not even that big of a deal, but now it is, because you're lying off rip already.
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Wait, okay, you would hate to date a short guy?
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I'm just 5'5", but my boyfriend's like 6'2", so I've got a type here.
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And we'll go around on this really quick, and then we'll also get your reaction to the
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I used to always say my height, but I did have ran into issues where I kind of really don't
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I like to have big, chunky shoes on all the time, and they do start getting their feelings
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hurt sometimes when I'm taller than them on the daily, and I just don't want to deal
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I don't think I would be too into a man who's like five foot or something.
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Would it be wrong for a guy to live out his height on a dating app?
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I think that it would be weird for you to lie on a dating app because I'm going to meet...
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I would think it's weird for you to lie on a dating app because I'm going to meet you in person.
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Just, I mean, it would be cool if the guy I was dating is taller than me.
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And wait, going back to you, how tall was your last boyfriend?
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What about any previous boyfriends or is this your first relationship?
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I mean, I think it's kind of weird to be lying about that.
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But I mean, if it's only an inch or two off, if you're saying you're 6'0", and you're 5'11",
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But I can see how for some women it really is the difference between if I'm going to swipe
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on you or not, whether you say you're 5'11", or 6'0".
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But I would definitely prefer to date a guy who's like 6'0", but I'm 5'4", I'm short.
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My ex that I was with for four years, he was 5'7", and it was fine.
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So is your standard just your height or taller?
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And so, okay, you're 5'4", your last boyfriend, you said he was 6'0", correct?
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And he was short, and people said it all the time that we look the same height, but I don't
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But you do think it's wrong if a guy were to lie about his height on the dating app?
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If it's like an inch or two, yeah, I really don't see the big deal.
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I might make fun of you if I realize that, but I don't think it would be like an end-all
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But I know that I do care, though, about height, honestly.
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Not, like, a ton, but my minimum is probably, like, 5'10", maybe.
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Would you think it's a red flag if he lied, or you just, like, don't care?
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Um, well, I'm not on dating apps, so it's not something that would affect me.
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That's, like, that's not the reason I'm not on dating apps, but, like, a big reason I don't
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I always think it's important to see how you connect with them in person, not...
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But they lied to you, like, before they even met you.
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I, like, recently had, um, uh, there was a guy I just went on that, like, first date
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I found out, like, lied to me about his age, which I feel like is super suspicious and,
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So, yeah, that's, like, my, even itself, like...
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Like, what did he say his age was and what it actually is?
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I was thinking maybe he was, like, 21, but, um, then he tells me on his first date that
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Did he say he was 21, or did you assume he was 21?
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So, I assumed he was, like, 21, um, and then I, like, we went on this first date, and
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then he told me he was 25, and then I, um, see him, he comes into town, I see him,
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like, downtown a couple days ago, and he tells, um, he, like, meets my friends.
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Like, he's really drunk or whatever, and I was, like, ha-ha, he's 25, and he's, like,
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Like, he told me you were 25, and he's, like, no, I'm actually 21.
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Like, like, jokingly, lying about his age, but, like, straight up told my friends when
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I honestly don't know for sure how old he is, but he told me on our date he was 25,
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and I was, like, I think I asked him later, I was, like, why did you lie to me about
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And he was, like, I thought it would, I thought, like, you'd, I would seem cooler to you or
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No, you can lie about your age on Tinder and stuff.
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Initially, I, like, that was in my head, like, he kind of looked that age.
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What he told me on our first date was, I am 25, and then he tells my friends when he
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meets them that he's 23, and I think he's actually 23, and told me that he was 25.
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I don't know, I can't imagine you would have felt any differently if he was two years older
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Yeah, I kind of feel, I feel better knowing that he's, like, 23.
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Because if, because the older guy is, I feel like I would have higher expectations of maybe
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where he is in his life, and whether he, like, uses his time wisely, and is on, like, a, you
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So, I was actually, I, like, probably would have preferred it knowing he was 23, based
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But anyways, that was, like, nearly a deal breaker, because how am I ever, like, that's
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so, that's such a, like, suspicious thing to do.
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How can I literally ever trust, like, anything else, like, this person says?
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What's that called, when people just lie, just, there's not really a purpose, they
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Yeah, that just, like, what's the, I don't know, that doesn't make any sense why he would
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I mean, he told me it's because he thought it would make him seem cooler to me.
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I mean, that's, it's already kind of a, yikes, it's already a yikes, but, uh.
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The fact he admitted that is really embarrassing.
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So, are you still seeing him, or no, it's done?
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I, I think it was, it was, that was definitely a red flag, and, and, um, he was also drunk,
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Yeah, there were just other, like, red flags that came up, I don't know.
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I don't like people that lie to me, especially in the beginning stages.
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Um, that's a tough one, because I feel like women lie on dating apps as well.
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If you're 5'11", 5'8", whatever, I'm cool with that.
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But just be straight up from the jump, because I'm not going to put myself as a white girl.
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Oh, I thought, I was about to, I was about to quit, because you said I'm a white girl.
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You got the opposite of whatever Michael Jackson had?
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Wait, so, okay, but just no, and then as far as height goes, what's your height and heights
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I'm 5'8", and I think all my boyfriends were, like, only had two.
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So, kind of one of the reasons I asked this, and it was just interesting.
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Actually, Carson, can you pull back up the TikTok clip really quick, if it's up?
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So, okay, she's talking about dudes capping on Hinge, lying about their heights on dating
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She's an attractive woman without all that, but, and we obviously don't have her dating
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Maybe all her photos on the dating app are no makeup, no filter.
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Although, from my experience being on the dating apps, it's typically not the exception.
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It's the rule that most of the photos on there, most women are using filters and makeup,
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Not full face, but, and so, to me, it's just kind of interesting because you often hear
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complaints from women saying, guys are lying about their height, guys are lying about their
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height, yet, these very same women, exhibit A, are misrepresenting their facial features,
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their physical appearance, they're using filters, they're photoshopping, they're fucking, all
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And it's just like, so I'm thinking, I'm, listen, just for equality or whatever the
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fuck, I think dudes should start lying about their age on dating apps.
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Sorry, Tara's little thing about the age thing threw me off there.
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Yeah, I think dudes should start lying about their height on dating apps.
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Or we just all start being more real on dating apps.
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I feel like if you wear a full face makeup every day, what's the problem with putting
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pictures on your dating app where you're wearing makeup?
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I'm sorry, but if a man cannot tell that I don't naturally have golden shimmery eyelids
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and red lipstick, I feel like that's his issue, not mine.
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If a girl is, yeah, besides the filters and the editing and stuff, makeup, if that's how
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she presents herself every single day, day in and day out, how is that not the woman
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It'll be different if this girl is dressed like a bum 360 days a year, and five days she
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puts on the makeup, and those are five days she has a picture on her profiles.
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That would be a little different, but that's her day-to-day look.
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And also, makeup helps enhance things that are...
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Are we talking like full drag queen beat, or there's difference in between makeups that
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Not all makeup completely changes your features.
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Sometimes it just makes whatever lighting from a photo that would mess up your features
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So you've never in your life seen a girl completely different without makeup?
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That's why I said there's a difference between the drag queen layers of makeup versus the
00:37:40.640
I understand where he's coming from because I wear makeup, but I do think that it is kind
00:37:44.840
Because a lot of girls don't look the same without it, and if you can't live in your
00:37:47.240
natural self, and you're sitting out here judging people for their height and things
00:37:50.080
like that, you're not even living in your natural beauty.
00:37:53.780
So I understand exactly where he's coming from with that.
00:37:55.320
And I get that too, but then also a rebuttal to that is those girls who are doing the full
00:37:59.920
beat down, like the kind of drag queen-y makeup are probably going to attract men who like
00:38:06.120
The men who like natural women aren't going to go for the ones who are wearing that drag
00:38:10.500
And I can guarantee, like she said, if they don't know that they can't, you could usually
00:38:13.600
see, come on, you could see that that's not what they look like.
00:38:17.200
It's not like, you know, you're not being bamboozled.
00:38:26.680
Underestimate how naive some men can be in terms of the way...
00:38:31.060
In terms of the ways in which women will enhance their appearance through makeup and filters
00:38:38.400
Let me, let me come back to what you said, then I'll address what you said, but can you
00:38:47.740
Um, so you said, can you remind me what you said?
00:38:50.580
Yeah, I said that I feel like if you normally wear full face of makeup every day, not every
00:38:55.520
day, but most of the time, then I don't see the problem with making those your pictures.
00:38:59.060
So my, my response to that would be, well, do you do those same women wear the makeup to sleep
00:39:04.860
No, but when like, okay, so they're wearing them when they're around people.
00:39:08.060
But within the context of a romantic relationship, at some point you guys are going to spend
00:39:13.740
the night, you guys are going to, you're going to see your girl without makeup.
00:39:18.460
So it is a bit of a, uh, mirage in a sort of way.
00:39:22.260
And the other thing I would add to that too, is why do people find a, why are people attracted
00:39:36.320
It's because it's a good indicator for health and fertility.
00:39:41.120
But for example, for example, if you had the choice to have children with someone who is
00:39:46.000
very attractive and children with someone who was not attractive, you would want to
00:39:51.860
pair with someone who's physically attractive so that your children are physically attractive
00:39:57.380
because we know physical attractiveness gives you certain benefits and privileges throughout
00:40:03.380
Well, my thing with that is that makeup only covers up so much.
00:40:06.700
I mean, if you like, I don't know, I feel like someone who's pretty and wears just some
00:40:13.060
I mean, you can still probably tell that they're a naturally pretty person.
00:40:17.740
I mean, I don't know if you've seen some of these before and after.
00:40:20.880
I don't know if you've seen some before and after photos, but, uh, you're saying, I get
00:40:26.040
what you're good at the point you said earlier about, I'm not recognizing how like naive some
00:40:31.140
Like, honestly, I can maybe a few percent wouldn't agree, but almost everyone's makeup here in
00:40:36.700
this room, if we were to take it off, we would all look damn the same.
00:40:39.560
The men mostly would not be able to tell a difference.
00:40:47.740
I got some Neutrogena makeup for 30 minutes to be here to wear for an hour and take it
00:40:57.480
Yes, men could be naive, but most men can see when you're wearing that much makeup.
00:41:02.020
Like if you're wearing makeup to transform your face, unless you are a freaking Ariel or
00:41:06.360
the Kardashians makeup artist, you're going to see that powder on their face, especially
00:41:12.140
It's, it, it becomes to a point where it looks wrong.
00:41:14.720
They call it now, they call it birthday makeup.
00:41:16.240
You know, that's what the whole little, the thing is birthday makeup.
00:41:21.020
I get your point, but a little bit of makeup, come on.
00:41:25.000
Like someone wrote this in the comments, so I can't take credit for it, but they asked
00:41:28.660
a fair question, which was if you don't think makeup significantly enhances your attractiveness,
00:41:38.840
I said it enhances my natural features, which is why I do it.
00:41:41.440
Cause it makes me feel better about myself, more put together.
00:41:44.000
When I look in the mirror, I look like, okay, like I look like I'm about to start my day.
00:41:48.360
Not like I look like a completely different person.
00:41:51.100
If, if makeup didn't have any sort of benefit to your appearance, women just wouldn't wear
00:41:58.440
Did I not say, are you guys skipping past the word enhance?
00:42:00.300
But you're saying, you're saying like, but, but in terms of selecting a partner, both
00:42:05.360
men and women look to physical attractiveness to determine like, oh, I want to meet this
00:42:10.320
So you are essentially misrepresenting your actual appearance, or if you want to use
00:42:21.880
But my overall point, like how you said how men can be so naive to makeup.
00:42:24.900
I, like, not just me, majority of us here would look, most men, the alley could be like,
00:42:31.020
oh, maybe she looks a little bit tired, or she looks a little bit less flushed in the
00:42:36.180
I'm telling you this because of how often it happens to me from men telling me, oh, I
00:42:40.500
didn't even know you were wearing makeup now, or that you, you were making this time.
00:42:43.460
Unless I'm wearing sparkly shit on my eyes and a red lip, they usually can't tell.
00:42:46.740
See, but look, the difference from you and other women is you might look pretty without
00:42:50.320
There's a dozen other women that we've seen that hasn't.
00:42:53.320
I've been with women before, and they take their makeup off and look completely different.
00:42:56.520
I have concealer on, so I'm fine with taking my makeup off.
00:42:58.760
But there's a lot of girls who don't look the same, so I understand exactly why men want
00:43:02.220
women to live in their natural beauty, because they love themselves and look at themselves
00:43:05.580
Whether you want to believe it or not, I know dozens of women who wear makeup and are insecure
00:43:11.440
Yeah, so the point of, like, makeup, it does enhance beauty, and it does make a lot of girls
00:43:14.860
more prettier, and some girls don't even look good without it.
00:43:17.660
But my overarching point, though, is, like, those women who don't look pretty without the
00:43:20.660
makeup, one, either aren't going to look still pretty with the makeup, or they're doing
00:43:24.380
a shit ton of makeup to look good, so the guys who don't like natural women aren't going
00:43:32.500
Leave those beat down faces for the men who like the beat down faces, and the natural
00:43:38.060
Sure, okay, well, I mean, we could probably go back and forth on the makeup thing for a
00:43:41.960
little bit, but the other point I was going to make is, and I think this is, me personally,
00:43:48.460
I think the makeup example is similar to the height line thing, but I can take it a step
00:43:55.260
I think a bigger faux pas is using filters on a dating app.
00:44:00.260
So, I mean, I pulled up Facebook dating right now, and I'm just, I'm looking, I mean, like,
00:44:07.580
first photo, filter, you can't even see your nose, basically, makeup, let me see, oh, I'm
00:44:14.940
not going to show that one, let's see, oh, I'm sorry, I should be showing these, okay,
00:44:26.160
Yeah, I feel like using filters, filtered photos on a dating profile is probably equivalent
00:44:31.380
to lying about your height, you know, because it's, and, and like, that's not just, yeah,
00:44:36.040
like, you could, I just would probably say it's just, it's like impractical for whoever's
00:44:41.360
doing it, because you're going to see them in person, but I could totally see how like
00:44:44.560
a guy who is like really charming, great personality, but it's like trying to meet someone on a dating
00:44:50.460
app, wants to like lie about his height, because if that like makes a difference to a girl,
00:44:53.640
like going to see if going on a first date with him or not, and then he, you know,
00:44:57.980
woos her over with his like humor, but like he wouldn't have gotten the chance to like
00:45:02.680
show her his personality beforehand, like that makes sense.
00:45:06.940
Carson, can you hit the, on the sources tab in StreamYard, the eye, hit the eyeball,
00:45:14.480
for, yeah, it's StreamYard, just the eye, StreamYard, StreamYard, nope, that's SL alerts,
00:45:21.220
StreamYard one down, yeah, I'm not, literally not saying shit to Tara at all, like how am I trying
00:45:27.620
to run her over, like, oh my god, they can't let it go from that last podcast, like let it fucking
00:45:32.440
go, so move forward with your life. When it, when it comes to the, using the filters on the dating apps,
00:45:38.980
I would honestly say, of the girls I see on Hinge, Facebook dating, whatever, like 50% or more
00:45:48.260
are using filters on their photos, I mean, and their first photo too, I, I mean, and that's like,
00:45:57.320
okay, that's the hook, right, so it's pretty disingenuous, I think, to lie about your physical
00:46:04.420
appearance, which I mean, both men and women care about pretty substantially, but men typically are
00:46:09.860
not lying about their, their facial, their, men don't really wear makeup. I know a lot of men who use filters too.
00:46:17.660
I agree with the filter. There are men, there are men that wear filters. Face tune, face app stuff,
00:46:21.980
I think that's, that's out. Yeah. Can I add Snapchat filters that morph your face, like that's just not.
00:46:27.240
I don't even use them on regular social media. But makeup cannot physically make your nose small,
00:46:31.680
it cannot make your lips huge. It cannot make, you know, like filters, filters physically will make
00:46:38.060
your lips bigger. Filters will make your eyes bigger. They'll like literally change you.
00:46:44.220
Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. That's all I had to say. You definitely lost your point with that one.
00:46:51.220
Yeah. Yeah, filters are bad, but I guess what I'm just trying to say is,
00:46:56.920
I think guys should start lying about their height. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
00:47:00.800
I'm saying. Then don't be mad when they come up to the date and get clowned or laughed at. That's
00:47:06.100
saying you can't be upset then. Yeah. Short King, Supreme, whatever. But if you lie about your height
00:47:10.920
and then show up to a date and you get clowned, can you be upset? What? I don't think that's fair.
00:47:17.880
I don't think it's ever okay for a girl to like clown a guy. What are you talking about?
00:47:22.160
If I, I think it's the same way vice versa. If a girl puts on her profile that she only weighs 110 pounds
00:47:27.120
and then she shows up and he's 300 pounds, I think it's okay to laugh at her and clown her.
00:47:31.220
I don't think it's ever okay to clown. If you, that, that is not okay. If you are hiding what
00:47:36.180
you true, you truly are to get somebody to meet you in person, they can respond anyway. You can't
00:47:41.240
choose how somebody is going to respond to you lying to them. It'll be different if they were
00:47:45.260
straightforward. You know what I mean? Then that's totally wrong. I'm not saying people should slide
00:47:49.040
up on their stuff and insult them or I'm not saying any of that's right. But if you lie to me,
00:47:52.500
make it seem like one way and once another and you show up and it's not, you can't, you can't say
00:47:57.800
how I can react to that. How would you handle if he was six, he said he was six foot and he came to
00:48:02.020
you, he was five eight or five seven. You're going to scream at him and yell at him? Me personally,
00:48:05.500
I wouldn't. I would just be like, I would be like, really dude? Like, you know, you would say
00:48:09.020
something. I would cause I'm five seven and I'm going to be wearing heels probably. So I'm probably
00:48:11.960
gonna be five nine. So if you say you're six feet and I show up and I'm a almost half a head taller
00:48:15.620
than you. Come on, bro. That's weird as hell. And I have, I have on my profile, I have my height on all my
00:48:21.200
profile. So you see that I'm five, seven and a half and you still chose to lie and then show up
00:48:25.340
to the date knowing you're shorter than me and didn't get no stilts. He was, he was trying to
00:48:30.180
get the hook. He was trying to get the hook in the same way that women wear makeup to get the hook on
00:48:35.360
the guy. That is the exact same thing. Can I say one thing then? How could it be a little different
00:48:39.060
then? Maybe if he lies on his profile, right? We're talking for a minute, we're getting to meet each
00:48:44.140
other and then he wants to take me out on a date or whatever. Maybe tell me beforehand, Hey, I'm sorry.
00:48:49.000
It's something I'm insecure with. I did lie a little bit about my height. I hope it's not a big
00:48:53.140
deal, but to completely blindside me and not say nothing until we're in person. That's crazy. I'm
00:48:58.120
supposed to just skate past that. Like I'm not looking down at you. Come on. Well, just kind of
00:49:02.460
going back to something you said previously, you mentioned weight. Yes. It, it is interesting that on
00:49:07.840
dating apps, there's for Tinder. I don't, well, actually, I'm not sure about Tinder. I haven't been on
00:49:12.100
Tinder in a while. Uh, Bumble, hinge, Facebook dating, a lot of these other dating apps. There's
00:49:17.640
a dedicated height field where you can actually put in your height yet. Yeah. Wouldn't it be like,
00:49:23.920
there's no way. Why isn't there a way for women? That would be, I think there is on some dating
00:49:30.360
apps. No, there's not a, I think I remember, I remember. Dude, are you kidding me? Like there
00:49:35.300
is no way. There's no weight field. Like in this America, that would like ever happen.
00:49:41.080
You're lying. Yo. Which is so effed up actually. I feel like the reason why height is in like
00:49:48.800
hinge and stuff is because that you cannot like see in pictures, but like somebody's weight,
00:49:53.680
you would be able to see in a picture. I don't know. I mean, if they're like lying and using
00:49:57.960
hello old pictures, but for me, that's my logical thing. Yo, have you ever seen like the fucking
00:50:02.480
the, the, my space angles? Like fucking up here. I think the reason why it could be different kind
00:50:08.220
of what her point is, but not exactly. I think the reason why maybe they don't
00:50:11.040
include weight is like five, five is five, five, five, seven is five, seven. 130 pounds
00:50:16.260
can look very different on everyone. Even if they're both five, two women can carry 130
00:50:21.440
pounds so vastly differently. Whereas both five, two women, they're both five, two at the end
00:50:26.140
of the day. Like that's not changing. So. Okay. How about your waist circumference measurement,
00:50:29.600
which is actually a really good indicator of physical health? Like you mean like my waist,
00:50:33.180
my hips, all that? Yeah. Yeah. Like if you had to put your, like, like if you're saying,
00:50:37.120
yeah. Like if you're saying like that's not a good one. But even like most men
00:50:40.880
had, if I put my, if I put on my app, my bust is 33, my waist is 25, my ass is 40. They're
00:50:45.920
going to look at that and have no idea what that is. But also. That is true. You and I.
00:50:49.100
I got no idea what any of that. That means stuff to women, but no, if a man said his waist
00:50:54.100
is 33 inches, I'm going to be like, okay. But her point still stands is like you and I
00:50:58.980
could have the same measurements, 33, 25, whatever, but look exactly different. It's, you know.
00:51:05.700
For men too. That's like for men as well. But for the most part, you're seeing what they look
00:51:09.680
like from their pictures unless they're lying. That's why I'm saying, yeah. Like for the
00:51:14.040
women who sometimes only have their little part of their head and they end up being like
00:51:17.580
some woman can like have a smaller face and not match their body. That'd be fucked up if
00:51:22.140
they showed up to the date, acting like they were a little itty bitty and they were, you
00:51:25.520
know, like 600 pound life. That's embarrassing. Word. Word. Okay. We got to get to these super
00:51:30.720
chats here. Um, you can pull that one up Carson. Yeah. Did you miss a few or? Oh yeah. Make
00:51:42.000
sure you like every 20, 30 seconds. You're just looking, looking, looking for every time
00:51:46.800
it updates, just be constantly looking. Uh, I'll get this one while we're at it. Yo,
00:51:50.720
Praxis. Thank you for the $20 soup chat, man. Appreciate it. Even if men don't get tricked
00:51:53.920
by your layers of makeup, your habits still show that you are financially irresponsible and
00:51:58.860
deeply insecure about your appearance. Also, an agreeable plain Jane six trumps a disagreeable
00:52:04.900
10 any day of the week. What do they mean by agreeable and disagreeable? Can I make one
00:52:12.760
statement before that though? I love how he's talking about our habits show that you're
00:52:16.460
financially irresponsible, but you're spending $20 to make a comment on a podcast right now.
00:52:21.460
So I don't know. Maybe, I guess you just got like that, but that's a stupid ass way to
00:52:26.920
spend $20 if you ask me. Actually kind of on this topic, Praxis,
00:52:30.480
thank you for the $20 soup chat. Um, so how much would you guys say you spend,
00:52:36.860
I don't know if you want to break it down by month or year, how much would you say you spend
00:52:40.660
on cosmetics, I guess, uh, a year that I guess that includes makeup?
00:52:45.960
I would have honestly no way to answer that question. No way at all.
00:52:49.440
Like, I'm not going to lie. I just buy drugstore makeup. I probably don't spend more than like
00:52:55.740
a hundred dollars a year on makeup. It's so random. Like before I didn't used to wear makeup
00:53:00.540
that often. Now that I work, um, at a club and have to wear makeup, I wear a little bit
00:53:03.560
more, but like literally it, I'm so, I would have no idea how much I spend on makeup. I would
00:53:09.620
say maybe a year total. I would spend on makeup maybe around 500 the whole year. Okay.
00:53:19.520
I actually keep incredibly detailed, um, logs of all of my spending. So I know exactly what
00:53:27.140
my beauty spending is per month and it's 40. Oh, there you go. 40 per month. All of your beauty
00:53:35.800
in total is 40 per month. Yes. And that stays the same 40 per month. It doesn't like out
00:53:40.320
like your birthday month. It doesn't go up at all. Well, it's all averaged. And that
00:53:43.720
includes like, if you don't get like, yeah, I don't get my nails done, which like saves
00:53:47.980
a lot compared to $40 a month for other girls. Yeah. Like averaged out. Did everyone get
00:53:53.800
to answer that question? Um, you too. I don't spend a lot. I don't really do nails either.
00:53:59.600
I got these from CVS. Okay. What about you? I have makeup that's expired that I still use.
00:54:07.320
Same girl. It lasts forever. Like, I don't really buy makeup that often. I'm sorry. Who
00:54:12.020
is on the Ritalin? Can somebody stop shaking the table? I'm sorry. It's definitely me.
00:54:16.500
I'm sorry for it. I'll cut it off. Did you take some Adderall before the show or what's
00:54:20.180
up? No, just nervous baby. Okay. Um, so you said 40 a year about, or what was it? Maybe like
00:54:28.280
a hundred. I don't know. Okay. You told me to call her up. Sorry. Sorry. It was probably
00:54:37.820
me too. I'm shaking like. Is it too cold? Or I mean, I have the heater. I'm just a fidgeter.
00:54:44.740
I'm sorry. All right. We got Amazon buzz with the $10 soup chat. I wish that there were more
00:54:48.760
people in the world that just want a long-term loving relationship and less people wanting
00:54:52.340
just something casual hookups. I, yo, I a hundred percent agree with you, man. Um, I think hookup
00:54:57.500
culture is, uh, the end of the West. Anyways, uh, we have Eric here with the $10 soup chat.
00:55:04.580
Thank you. What's up chat on the mountain right now. So I can't watch, but wanted to hop on
00:55:08.300
and say common Brian W commenter W comment Taylor W who's out. Okay. Um, also won't let me send
00:55:15.420
$10 on mobile. What the fuck? Hey, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Yeah. Like a nine 99. It gets
00:55:21.160
caught up in the, it'll be yellow. So yo, Joel Taggart. Oh, this, okay. We got the TTS. Hey,
00:55:28.180
thank you, Joel. Appreciate it, man. Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 soup chat. When they say,
00:55:32.840
I want to experience life, see what I like travel, not ready to sell down. All I hear is I'm going to
00:55:36.520
be ran through with baggage and my future man better accept me as I am delusional, delusional.
00:55:43.360
Oh, go ahead. What is so wrong with wanting to be alone? Like I don't, I don't understand. It's
00:55:52.420
like so many men just to get so upset when you say like, yeah, I'm not looking for a relationship
00:55:56.540
right now. I'm not looking for anything serious right now. Making it seem like I'm going out and
00:56:01.120
fucking the whole world. I've been single since March. Okay. I've slept with two women and one
00:56:05.440
man since then. Oh my God. I'm a fucking slut. I'm a hoe bag. Take me to fucking hell. Like
00:56:11.880
it's so contradictory. Like just say you get no fucking puss then if that's such, that's such a
00:56:17.980
hoe-ish behavior. I know everyone is different. Everyone has their different opinions, but I think
00:56:22.840
it's kind of crazy. I think it's because a lot of women lie about that and say they're single and
00:56:26.500
don't really know what single means. Like a lot of people, like I said before, will be like, oh,
00:56:29.380
I'm healing. They're sucking 20 peepees. How the fuck is that healing? Think about that. I'm not saying
00:56:33.440
you in general, but single is like you alone, no dating apps. You do your own thing, going to the gym,
00:56:38.140
not fucking around, you know? I'm like in 10 months, if I've happened to have
00:56:41.720
relations with three people. Did you just say relations? Relations, yeah. Sexual relations
00:56:47.800
with three people. Like I just don't understand how that's like end all, be all, especially two of
00:56:54.680
them being woman, like I said. So one man in the past 10 months. So I've slept with, now let's,
00:56:59.800
let's, let's break it down. I've slept with two men since 2019, but I'm a whore because I don't want
00:57:04.920
to date anybody right now. Like it just, it doesn't add up to my brain like at all. Like I just,
00:57:10.980
I know I don't want a relationship, but sorry, I don't, sometimes you want it.
00:57:17.560
Okay. I gotta be celibate for the rest of my life. Like I'm not waiting until marriage. So
00:57:20.840
that's not what I've ever claimed to be doing. Well, I think when, here's like what we translate
00:57:26.420
in our heads as guys, when we hear women say, I just want to find myself. I just want to,
00:57:31.680
you know, explore, find myself. Here's what we're thinking. Getting ran through. That's what we think.
00:57:39.200
These are the same men who want submissive woman, right? You want a woman who is going to be
00:57:43.800
submissive and listen to you and stay at home. You want her to stay home and not hang out with
00:57:47.520
her friends when you want her to hang out with her friends. So what is wrong with me taking a few
00:57:51.500
years out of my life to do that? So I don't have to sit and argue or make somebody upset. I can do
00:57:56.600
whatever the fuck I want. Doesn't mean it has to be fucking. It could be just, I don't know,
00:58:00.820
hanging out with my friends, not responding to my phone, 25, eight, things like that.
00:58:05.200
Wait, 25, eight? You never heard of the saying 25, eight? Come on. Be for real. 24, seven,
00:58:11.080
25, eight. It's like a dramatic way. It's like a hyper thing. Who the fuck is that guy?
00:58:18.400
I've never heard that. Maybe it's AAVE. I don't know. It's AA? AAVE.
00:58:22.080
You're, you're an Alcoholics Anonymous? Oh my God. Oh, how, uh, how long have you been sober?
00:58:31.920
Wait, you're a bartender. Hello? Is he being serious right now? Wait. African American
00:58:36.220
Verdacular English is AAVE. Oh. I couldn't. I was thinking though too. Sorry, sir. I was thinking
00:58:43.760
the same thing. I didn't know. And I'm black. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah. Um, uh, so wait, what were
00:58:53.620
we talking? What were we? Oh, the, you working on yourself. Okay. I think, when did I ever
00:59:01.340
fucking say that? I just said I wanted to be single. Y'all kept saying that. I'm trying
00:59:05.060
to heal myself. I'm working myself. I never fucking said that. I just said I don't want
00:59:07.900
to be up underneath somebody else's asshole all day. Like, I want to do my own thing.
00:59:12.480
Like. Hey, don't knock it till you try it. I have. Oh. Not that way. Good times. Good
00:59:18.680
times. All right. We have, uh, let's see. Uh, okay. We have Sky Traveler with the $10 soup
00:59:25.880
chat. Thank you, man. Love the show. Brian, keep up with the good work. Question for the
00:59:28.580
panel. Would these girls date a cop even with how the political climate is these days? Yeah,
00:59:33.280
we can go around on that. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I would date a cop. Definitely. Yeah.
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Yes. I am kind of surprised by all those answers. Okay. Cops are hot as fuck. What are you talking
00:59:45.860
about? Really? Fine ass man. EMT. We love our blue collared workers. Yes. Oh. Security. Security.
00:59:54.740
I love my type. Like, what do you mean? I don't know. Cause we've had, we had one girl on the
00:59:59.880
show who, well, she, she was very anti-cop. So I figured in a more liberal area, you might
01:00:07.460
encounter. I believe there needs to be some form of reformation in some areas of America
01:00:11.420
with their cop system for sure. But that doesn't mean all cops are bad. That's not what the
01:00:15.680
statement is. It's not all cops are bad. It's all cops are bastards because. Oh, jeez.
01:00:21.280
No, I didn't mean to ding you there. I was dinging you before. Oh, shit. You know, I don't
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even say, I'm not even saying I really agree with that statement. But the point of the statement
01:00:28.040
is like, when you see things that are going on and they don't say anything like, yeah,
01:00:32.100
that's kind of bad, but I can't assume that every cop has seen bad shit and is letting
01:00:36.740
it slide. Like I know a million cops that are great men. I agree with that. When I was
01:00:41.420
alone on the side of the road, after the totaling of my car on Christmas Eve, like at like midnight,
01:00:51.220
I was, um, it was the cops and the firemen that showed up right away and cop like drove
01:00:58.300
me home. So I wasn't like completely abandoned. So anyways, they're, they do good. They're
01:01:04.800
good guys. Thank you for that. All right. That statement with that comment was wild.
01:01:09.180
Yo, David Drysdale, thank you for the $10 soup chat. If you meet a man your age, Carson,
01:01:13.220
just careful with the feet there. Um, if you meet a man your age and you, and, and he checks
01:01:18.560
all of your boxes, then you guys have a conversation with him about exes and he reveals that he
01:01:23.500
never been in a relationship. Would that be a turnoff for you? We'll go around on that.
01:01:27.620
Sure. Um, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Yeah. Cause I feel like he's getting his
01:01:36.580
advice from elsewhere. Not a reliable source from, from who? Maybe like Andrew Tate or something.
01:01:43.560
Oh, you know, okay. Uh, wait, but so you think a guy who, they just don't have any experience.
01:01:52.500
Like what are they basing there? Like they don't have any experience.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure like every single person that listens to Andrew Tate is just
01:02:01.540
fucking slaying, just fucking slaying. I'm sure. So like, they're just, you know, the guys
01:02:09.620
who probably aren't getting any are the ones that watch MSNBC, but, um, not the one spending
01:02:14.680
four hours watching a podcast on a Sunday night. Hey, whoa, Kiko. Whoa. That's you're so, that's
01:02:20.740
so mean. Sorry. How dare you say the, say that about my, my, where's Mike, Mike Davis. I don't
01:02:28.260
know. He would, do you have a name for your fans? Like, do you have a nickname? The, not really,
01:02:33.680
but I mean, the whatever, one came to my mind, but whatever warriors. Did you, were you going
01:02:39.180
to say the whatever wiggers? How dare you? Definitely not. That's whoa. Definitely was
01:02:44.480
not going to come out of my mouth. How dare you? Okay. Um, so wait, the super chat. What
01:02:50.680
about you? I mean, not necessarily, but I would ask him like, why haven't you been in a relationship?
01:02:55.680
If it's like, I don't know, depending on that answer, I would go from there. I agree with
01:03:04.220
that. I think that I'd be kind of concerned, like, like I'd just be confused why, but I
01:03:09.080
also at 22, I don't think that's that old to have not been in a relationship. So I would
01:03:14.220
just be curious why, but it's not a total deal breaker. Tara? I'm only 21, so it's not that
01:03:19.860
bad. If I was like older, if I was like, you know, 25 plus, that would probably be definitely
01:03:27.500
like a concern or like maybe deal breaker. But, um, I only think the thing that would
01:03:35.000
be like concerning or a problem is like figuring out if like a guy doesn't want to be in a
01:03:39.720
relationship with me, that would be like a deal breaker. Maybe that's like obvious. I
01:03:45.360
don't know, but it's like, I wouldn't even go on a date with him if it was clear to me
01:03:48.020
that he wasn't interested in the relationship. Sure. So, um, I see nothing wrong with
01:03:51.880
dating somebody who's never been in a relationship. What about a virgin? Yeah, I
01:03:55.820
would do that. We'll go around the table this way. Tara? Um, I'm gonna have to
01:04:01.920
probably say no to a virgin. Yeah. Yeah. RIP in the chat for all the virgins. Okay.
01:04:12.160
What about you? Yeah, I'm gonna say no. I just, yeah. I wouldn't say no, but
01:04:17.560
I don't know. Um, yeah. I have a boyfriend, so I guess I'd say no. Well, assuming you were
01:04:24.560
single. Okay. Um, then maybe. I don't see why not. Like, just show him around. I can think
01:04:31.420
of like a million. Did you just say show him around? Yeah. Show him around what? You know,
01:04:36.420
like. What, what are you gonna show him around? You could teach them. Yeah, that's what I'm
01:04:40.520
saying. Like, you know? Oh. Oh, okay. It's not a total deal breaker. Yeah. Okay. All right. Keep
01:04:46.980
going. Um, if he was just a virgin because like the time hasn't came, then sure. But if
01:04:51.880
he's like waiting until marriage, then fuck no. I would say no. I think in the same sort
01:04:58.380
of way that I can imagine why like guys wouldn't say, like would find it a little concerning
01:05:04.520
for like a girl that had like a hundred bodies. Like there, like it's, there's something behind
01:05:11.020
that sexual behavior. That's like a reason for it. So it's more of that, that like if
01:05:16.320
you're 21 in a virgin, there, there might be some sort of like emotional issues that are
01:05:21.780
like, that are the cause of why that's your sexual history. If that makes any sense. Okay.
01:05:28.720
Word. All right. We have, uh, oh wait, did we do this one? Yeah, we did Praxis. Thank you, man.
01:05:33.100
Yo, eventine, event, event-eyed fallacy. Thank you for the $20 soup chat, man. Appreciate it.
01:05:39.020
Bro, you've got some fucking shoulders and, uh, traps and biceps and fucking pecs, dude. Congrats.
01:05:49.240
Fucking shredded. You Myron. Yo, Gus, thank you for the $10 soup chat. It's Kiko Transformer because
01:05:54.820
that masculine, masculinity, I don't know what, what happened there is oozing through the screen.
01:06:00.040
Is she also vegan? Cause that BS makeup rebuttal was a bunch of word salad.
01:06:06.100
What do you have to say? Kiko. I was born with a coochie. Um, I'm not a vegan. I prefer red meat
01:06:13.840
over chicken actually. Um, but yeah, I'm, I don't know. Is there anything you want to tell him? Um,
01:06:22.260
you're giving, you're broke. Well done. Well done. Good one. Gus, you're broke. I would never date
01:06:38.500
you. It's cause you're vegan. But this guy I want to really talk to cause he's just saying some good
01:06:41.620
comments. Can you do a super chat? Oh, okay. Yo, Calvin Hamilton. Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
01:06:47.160
Calvin here. I don't think women today understand that most men just want simplicity. Your physical
01:06:51.820
appearance will change for, for you 10 years from now. Do you ever think about longevity when it
01:06:56.320
comes to dating? I feel like that's slightly vague, but, um, like that was a pointless ass
01:07:03.280
comment and a waste of $10. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah. I'm just trying to parse the question. I don't think
01:07:09.280
women, most men just want, there's like three different semi unrelated statements there, but yo,
01:07:15.600
Calvin, thank you for the $10 soup chat. I appreciate it. I said I was born with a coochie.
01:07:17.920
Uh, you ever think. Oh, sorry. I was referring to a comment. Do you ever think about longevity
01:07:24.500
when it comes to dating? I don't really even longevity. Yeah. I was going to say, I don't
01:07:29.840
even know what that means. I mean, long, like the longterm like mess of dating. No, I know
01:07:34.620
what it means. Just. Oh, does he mean like when you're, when you're considering partners,
01:07:39.300
do you think about whether this would be a good partner and not just like to date and have
01:07:44.620
as your boyfriend or fun with for like one night or like the next six months or year
01:07:49.160
of your life, but like longterm for the rest of your life? Like that depends what you're
01:07:54.540
dating for. Maybe what the question was. So I think he's asking us, is that things we consider?
01:07:59.340
Some people date for marriage. Some people date for experiences and then turn into dating
01:08:04.220
for marriage, whatever. You can pull it up, Carson. I think that was a pointless ass question.
01:08:10.480
Yo, Hector Navarez. Thank you for the $20. By the way, just keep it center. I'm on the
01:08:15.020
soup chats. Hector Navarez. Thank you for the $20 soup chat. We are whoever's. I mean,
01:08:19.160
I was thinking whatever warriors or whatever, but a dude, thank you for the big $20 soup chat,
01:08:23.300
man. Appreciate it. You can pull that up. Yo, Reginald Walken. Welkin, excuse me. Thank
01:08:29.360
you for the $10 soup chat. Appreciate it, man. Thanks for the support. What do you think about
01:08:32.360
disclosing plastic surgery? You marry someone and your kids come out looking way different.
01:08:35.900
That's a good point. By the way, guys, I know we skipped it. We do have the rest of the soup chats.
01:08:40.620
We just skipped ahead to this one, but we will get the rest shortly. So yeah, this sort of ties
01:08:46.300
into the makeup filter conversation that we were having before, kind of misrepresenting what you
01:08:51.080
look like. And I actually had something related to this. So what do you think about disclosing plastic
01:08:57.020
surgery? Um, would you, what, I kind of want to reframe your question here, Reginald, if you don't
01:09:05.540
mind. So would you, do any of you have plastic surgery to start, by the way? Lip fillers, anything?
01:09:15.260
Okay. Anybody? Anybody? Okay. Do you think, and maybe it might be hard for you to answer on behalf
01:09:21.080
of someone else, but do you think it'd be rude for a guy to ask a woman who's undergone a decent
01:09:27.260
amount of plastic surgery, let's say rhinoplasty, let's say lip fillers, let's say maybe some body
01:09:31.700
stuff, right? Do you think it would be unreasonable for him to ask for photos of her, let's say a lot
01:09:38.380
of facial work, to ask for photos of what she looked like before she got plastic surgery? Is that
01:09:44.340
an unreasonable request? I wouldn't say unreasonable. I would just say a little weird. Like if we're
01:09:52.180
getting to the point where we're talking about having kids and stuff, I would hope to God that
01:09:56.120
you're close enough to where you've already disclosed if you've gotten procedures done and
01:09:59.760
you've already seen pictures of your partner. If you're talking about having children with somebody,
01:10:04.900
I would hope you know what they've gotten done. And yeah, I think it would be kind of weird if you
01:10:08.960
never mentioned, oh yeah, I got a boob job when I was 21 or I got a little eyebrow. Like it's so
01:10:14.120
weird. Like I'm sure there's women who don't disclose it out there, I'm sure. But yeah, I'm
01:10:21.580
hoping when some marriage is coming around, that's already discussed. I think any form of surgery needs
01:10:27.700
to be mentioned maybe like when you first start dating. This is something that most people should
01:10:34.180
know. Kind of like, you know, trans people, how they get sexual changes or, you know, I don't even
01:10:43.520
know the word. But yeah, I feel like people like that should say something when they're first
01:10:48.240
starting dating. Like I wouldn't want to date a guy and then find out he has a coochie, you know?
01:11:01.620
Yeah, yeah. You can show them while we're, while I don't have another one pulled up. That's fine.
01:11:08.780
Yeah, I think honesty is the best policy. If they wanted to see an old picture, okay. Yeah.
01:11:15.000
I agree. I mean, I think it's kind of weird if you just started dating someone for them
01:11:19.140
to ask you for old pictures. But I agree that it's the best policy, you know? But I do think
01:11:25.320
that why are you asking that question unless you're trying to have children with the person
01:11:29.580
and wondering what that project is going to look like, you know?
01:11:33.440
Well, I think some people do date with the intention of, obviously, you don't anticipate
01:11:38.460
having children with someone immediately. But if you're dating with some intention, you
01:11:43.020
maybe see it going towards marriage, children one day. And I feel like it's much better to
01:11:49.200
know sooner rather than later. But Tara, go ahead.
01:11:52.860
Um, I think that's, like, totally fair. I mean, I'm probably biased because I'm sort
01:11:59.060
of, like, against surgery, like, plastic surgery for women in general. So I'm kind
01:12:04.400
of biased in that, like, I think less people should be getting it. But, yeah, so I think
01:12:09.440
that's totally fair that you, like, disclose it.
01:12:12.760
Yes, I agree. Women should say something first. I don't think a man should have to ask you
01:12:16.220
for pictures. You should just already tell them, like, hey, I got lip fillers. Hey, I had
01:12:19.500
my whole nose done. I used to look like Michael Jackson. And then show your picture
01:12:21.960
some symbol. Got it. All right. Hold on, guys. I got my place lost here with the,
01:12:27.600
uh, sorry. I did not. Uh, or wait, did we? Yeah, we already got that one. My bad.
01:12:34.740
Wait, what did they think I'm mad about? What do you guys think I'm mad about?
01:12:42.240
Eventide fallacy. Thank you for the $20 soup chat. Imagine complaining about $20. What do you
01:12:45.820
think most men in the West make per year? Willing to bet you've taken more from men on dates
01:12:49.660
who you had absolutely zero in 10 on sleeping with, get a career kid, kid, what's your response
01:12:57.300
I'm not saying $20 or $10 is a shit ton of money, but when you're on this podcast multiple
01:13:03.680
times a week, setting multiple of those ones all day and night long. Yeah. It does seem
01:13:08.220
like a stupid way to spend your money when it could go into either savings or something
01:13:13.220
else. Like I would definitely, I don't know, I'd rather go to In-N-Out or something than
01:13:17.560
comment on something like this. You know what, Kiko? Especially when you can comment for free.
01:13:21.680
It's like they have to see, they have, they're, they're so like down on themselves. They have
01:13:25.560
to see their comment up there and they have to hear their name read from you, but they
01:13:29.680
can't just make a normal comment on the thing. Listen, Kiko, I am so deeply hurt and offended
01:13:36.680
by what you just said. On our next show on Tuesday, I want a $10 soup chat from you.
01:13:42.740
I would absolutely fucking never. How dare you? I'd rather shit in my hands and clap and
01:13:47.520
then do a somersault. That is vile and disgusting. By the way, I think this is Eventide's first
01:13:56.080
time in the chat. This is Eventide's first time in the, in the chat. So, uh, hey, welcome
01:14:01.560
man. Appreciate the, uh, the subsequent, the super chats. Y'all think I got a BBO? That's
01:14:05.800
crazy. I'm like, thank you though. No. That's insane. Shut your fucking mouth.
01:14:16.340
Okay. We got the tick with the $10 soup chat. This is the official rating from Brian on down
01:14:19.920
four, seven, five, six, five, three. Great show, fellas. City boys, we up.
01:14:24.760
Oh my. Look at what he looks like. You look like that. Okay. Whoa. Wait, come on. Be
01:14:30.840
nice to the tick. Like a chewed piece of gum. I'm talking about rating us. That's
01:14:34.620
insane. Whoa. That's insane. You have to be at least a five to like have rating
01:14:38.740
privileges. I feel like can we make that a rule? If you don't, if you're not at least
01:14:42.100
a five, you're not allowed to rate anybody else. I mean, Eventide, he looks like a
01:14:46.500
fucking babe. He's like giga chat almost. He looks terrifying. I would cross the
01:14:50.500
street. What are you talking about? I would literally.
01:14:53.220
If you, yo, Kiko, be honest. You saw him in person. You'd cross the street. No, you'd
01:14:59.300
hit. Run for my life. No, you'd hit on him. Bro, you'd be like. Run the opposite direction.
01:15:03.080
No, you. Spray. Usain Bolt. Out of there. If, let me, let me tell you this. If you saw
01:15:16.060
If I saw Eventide, I'd probably ask him like. Oh, Jesus. What is happening?
01:15:21.360
Okay. Sorry. The soundboard went fucking gnarly there. All right. Yo, we got Eventide with
01:15:26.840
the $10 soup chat. You just bragged about getting laid as an attractive woman living
01:15:30.320
life on easy mode with a game genie. Father time will quickly take what mother nature gave
01:15:35.460
you. It's called forever 21 for a reason. Wait, who bragged about? I don't know. Did
01:15:40.140
someone brag about getting laid? I don't remember that. Are you? Wait, Eventide, can you just
01:15:46.040
clarify who you're talking to? What's, what's in reference to? Yo, Gus, thank you for the
01:15:49.760
$10 soup chat. Women and beta men. Beta? Beta? I always forget if it's beta or beta. But
01:15:55.080
use sign language. Shame, insults, guilt need to be right. When a fact statement that said
01:16:02.220
is true makes, make the shoe fit. You wouldn't be so defensive if that's not who you are exposed.
01:16:10.140
Thank you, Gus. Yo, Hector Navarez with the $20. Oh, I think I got this one. We are the
01:16:13.840
whoever's. Thank you, man. Reginald Welkin with the $10 soup chat. What do you think about
01:16:18.700
disclosing plastic surgery? Oh, wait, did we, we did this one. My bad. By the way, Carson,
01:16:24.260
you can star these and I'll just pull them up. Are there any others that just star them
01:16:29.140
and I'll pull them up after I get through all of them. Yo, Praxis, thank you for the $10 soup
01:16:32.980
chat. Kiko, $20 soup chat. Now 30 is a fraction of how much money women like you spend on makeup.
01:16:37.200
Please learn basic algebra instead of being so reactive and masculine.
01:16:42.320
Is there, he's talking about money. Is there something you want to tell him, Kiko?
01:16:48.120
What? You're broke. Good. Come on. Don't. Okay. Red pill.
01:16:54.940
Red. What do you want me to say? They keep saying the same shit to me over and over again. Like,
01:16:57.920
I don't know what you want me to say. Well, say what you want. Okay. Red pill.
01:17:00.440
Oh, you want me to say what I want? Oh, don't worry about that. Okay. All right. Red pill.
01:17:03.780
Crip at the $10 soup chat. Thank you, man. Hey, tattoos. What about you is real hair,
01:17:06.880
nails, eyelashes, et cetera. Asking for a friend. So my nails are real. These are extensions for my
01:17:12.200
hair. I do have falsies on right now, but usually I don't. I just, I realized last time my eyes kind
01:17:16.740
of got washed out by the camera. So I was like, let me add a little extra. I don't usually like,
01:17:21.140
I did extensions for a while, but I usually just have mascara on them. Um, but yeah, any more questions?
01:17:26.120
Um, you can send him for $30 next time. Oh God. Okay. We got Mikey, Mikey Davis. Hi baby.
01:17:33.900
How are you doing? We can do better than $9.99. Do you want to read this chat for him?
01:17:40.980
From Mike Davis. I see the chihuahua is back and barking already. Sure am. Thanks, Mike. Back to you,
01:17:47.920
Brian. Thank you, Kiko. Stress teen with the $10 soup chat. Why is Brandon on every live? Call him up.
01:17:54.500
Uh, Eventide fallacy with the $10 soup chat. I've spent more money on subs, Netflix, Hulu,
01:18:00.500
HBO that I never watch. I've been a viewer of this channel for a while and have gotten thousands
01:18:04.800
of dollars of entertainment for free. Keep grinding dude. Eventide. Thank you so much for
01:18:09.080
the support, man. Really means a lot. Thank you, man. Really appreciate it. Um, yeah, I mean the show
01:18:14.980
is a form of entertainment and they're, they're patrons of the show. Yeah. I just, it's like so much
01:18:21.700
fun to sit on this and just like make men spend their money to like say mean things to me. It's
01:18:27.480
like, honestly, why do I get a cut of this? Actually, I feel like all of these super chats
01:18:31.860
are about fucking me. I need to get some percentages on here. I think maybe we could discuss if a fit
01:18:39.820
check, if there's a fit check involved, maybe we can. I did see how much the fit check costs. Yeah.
01:18:43.580
I'm not doing no damn fit check without a demo. I'll throw you, um, if you, if you're able to
01:18:49.600
solicit a fit check, I'll throw you a 20. I got you. $20 or percent? 20, 20 bucks. And? 40. Hold on. 40.
01:18:59.700
Pretty good deal. I got it. I have a dog. Stop it. Get some help. Oh, wait, what? Okay. Sorry. Um,
01:19:13.200
I'll give you this expired, um, uh, plan B. Okay. I have an IUD. I have a, a female condom.
01:19:25.100
Wow. A dental dam? No, it's a female condom. And, um, a bag of Meow Mix cat food. I have a dog.
01:19:35.300
Okay. Next. Tough negotiator here. I don't take anything to her. Yeah. All right. We got it. Oh,
01:19:42.240
wait. I did this one. Oh, can you do this? Um, do you see the pose he's in? The little
01:19:46.200
fucking bicep? Can you, can you hit a little bi for us? A little, a bicep pose. Yeah.
01:19:52.540
Let's see. I don't even know how to do that. It's like, I don't think I've ever done that in my life.
01:19:56.100
Put your right hand on top of your other hand, other hand. Boom. Boom. Flex. Give us. Wow.
01:20:03.120
Fucking shredded. Jacked. Kiko. Kiko is a pole vaulter in high school.
01:20:09.620
Brian, pay Kiko. Come on. They don't even like me and they want you to
01:20:12.240
pay me. Yo, freeze them with you. 20 of those soup chats up, Brian. Love what you're doing.
01:20:16.000
New subscriber. Hey, welcome, man. Thank you. Appreciate the support. Thought Throt Throt
01:20:20.800
Kiko was cute till she opened her mouth. I also see that you have my girl Tay Tay up
01:20:25.480
there. Love you. You beautiful, beautiful human being. Love you too. Okay. By the way,
01:20:32.060
is it getting a bit warm in here for you guys? Yes. Carson, can you just pop the door open
01:20:35.900
for us? Thank you. Oh, my gosh, Jake. Is the table still shaking? No. No, it's good.
01:20:42.200
It stopped. It stopped. It stopped. Okay. I think we're all caught up finally on the soup
01:20:47.640
chats. Carson, just scroll down and just check on any other soup chats that came in. How far?
01:20:57.000
Goddamn. Okay. We're good. We're good. Sweet, sweet, sweet. Okay. So where were we? I'm trying
01:21:03.100
to remember where we had left off. Are we going to react to the video? I'll bring it up at the end
01:21:09.340
of the show, actually. Oh, let's just get this one. Go ahead. Pull it up. Yo, Chris Pacino. I think
01:21:15.000
that's how you pronounce your name. Thank you, man. Hey, brother. Love the show. I'd love to hear more
01:21:18.280
opinions from the other ladies. Please and thank you. It's usually the quiet ones that are more
01:21:21.820
attractive and more intellectual. Then please, because he forces me to fucking sit here and I have
01:21:28.340
to answer every fucking question first. Like, what do you? He didn't like need to at you
01:21:37.300
like so hard. That was like. You were all here when I argued and begged to not be sat in this
01:21:43.560
seat because you have to answer everything first. I do not want to sit here. It's good
01:21:48.040
to have the most opinion person, most opinionated person in that seat to get to get things. I
01:21:53.220
think she's actually far more opinionated than me, but she's just being quiet right now.
01:21:56.900
Because you guys aren't, you guys aren't talking about anything interesting.
01:21:59.780
Point proven. Yeah. Talking about ran through and stuff like that. So yeah, no. Talk about
01:22:03.960
something interesting and I'll get it going. Okay. You got me started. So go ahead. I'll get
01:22:06.840
you good on. I think I'll get you on this. Okay. You want me to get like that? You just said
01:22:10.640
it. I don't. I was just saying I think you're more opinionated than me just based on how you
01:22:14.760
talk. Let's get it. Damn. I got, I got a good one for us. I got a good one for us. Nothing wrong with
01:22:19.760
having opinions. Okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, guys, just a reminder,
01:22:24.660
all super chats will be displayed. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, I'm not
01:22:30.980
going to speak at all about it. I'm not going to sit here and take it. It's too early in the night.
01:22:36.640
Let's just say. Not really. It's actually nine o'clock and we're stepping up soon. You're shaking
01:22:42.220
my government now. Damn. All right. Oh shit. All right. So let me get these two chats. Mike Davis,
01:22:47.740
$10 soup chat, chat. Does she look more like a chihuahua or a hyena? One for chihuahua,
01:22:51.260
two for a hyena. Okay. So that's one for a chihuahua, two for a hyena. And then get the
01:22:57.460
next one, Chaz. Yo, at the gym, would you prefer to approach a man, him approach you, or neither?
01:23:05.440
At the gym. Approach me. I would love if a guy approached me at the gym. I think there's a right
01:23:10.940
way to do it when you're approaching someone in the gym. But if you do it right, then I don't see a
01:23:15.060
problem with it. I have been approached at the gym before and I did not appreciate it.
01:23:19.360
I would not like being approached at the gym. That's my me time.
01:23:23.960
Kiara. I don't really mind it. Okay, cool. All right, guys. So get your soup chats in. And
01:23:30.440
also, Carson, can you, excuse me, can you pull up the Twitch tab?
01:23:39.160
I'm going to give you guys the, by the way, twitch.tv slash whatever guys, we're live there
01:23:43.720
too. Pull up another tab, drop us a follow. If you have a prime sub available, drop us
01:23:49.500
a prime sub. Yeah, let me shout out. Shanty T, thank you for the follow. Jesus, thank you
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thank you for the follow. Indian Gummy, scroll back up. Indian Gummy, thank you for the follow,
01:24:05.580
man. Appreciate it. Okay. So if you guys want to get it a little heated, the last time you were
01:24:12.280
on the show, Kiara, the big conversation was age gap relationships, which you were critical
01:24:22.660
of. I knew I should have brought my notepad. Yep. So let's talk a bit about that. So do you
01:24:31.100
think it's wrong for a guy to date a younger adult woman? Let's say a 30-year-old dating a
01:24:40.240
20-year-old, for example. No, I don't see anything wrong with it. I just find it, my thing was, okay,
01:24:47.400
I'm not saying once they're an illegal adult, that is her decision, right? That is ultimately her
01:24:53.420
decision. It's not him grooming her or any of those sorts. She's a legal grown adult. I'm just saying,
01:24:58.380
I don't think it's fair to say there isn't a link with how men, the older they get,
01:25:05.840
they still like very young women. And my only point was, I know the stats start at 18, but I bet
01:25:13.100
you if they started younger at 14, there'd be a lot of those grown men finding 14 to 18-year-old
01:25:18.960
woman peak attractiveness as well, especially like 16. I guarantee you would be actually 16 if
01:25:24.180
that was a part of the stats instead of 18. Because 16 to 18, you're not getting much different. 18,
01:25:30.320
she could still be in high school. Remember, we're talking about adults.
01:25:32.960
That's the thing you keep saying is you're talking about adults, but that's not my point. So unless
01:25:37.540
we want to go back to that, then maybe we shouldn't resurface this. What age range bothers you? What's
01:25:41.540
the issue with the age range? I'm going to give you context because he's bringing it up from our
01:25:45.260
last thing. The last two times I was on here. Let me just clarify. I'm talking about adult
01:25:48.500
relationships. You keep bringing up high school and all this shit. I suppose an 18-year-old could be
01:25:54.400
in high school. He said 20 and 30. He said 20 and 30. No, but he said 18 after. He said 18 after. He did.
01:25:59.940
He said 18. Well, I just said 18 now. No, you said after. Okay. The first example I gave was 30
01:26:05.240
and 20. Yes, I said that's fine. I could even make it four. The first thing out of my mouth was
01:26:08.080
that's fine. My thing is I kept going back to the data that you showed on the podcast is my point.
01:26:15.980
When you showed the data that with women and men as they age, women tend to find men the same age as
01:26:21.980
them attractive. While men, it stops at about 18 to 20. My whole point is I don't care if you don't want
01:26:27.580
to bring this up and go into this deep down part of it, but you did. My point is that stat started
01:26:34.940
at 18. I guarantee if those men knew they would not get in trouble or face any punishment, they would
01:26:41.660
say that 16 was their optimal prime most attractive. 18 to 16 is not that far. Okay, but you're basically
01:26:49.460
just derailing the conversation. I'm not because you brought it up. No, no, no, but okay, but you're
01:26:54.220
the conversation is men who are say a 30-year-old guy who wants to date a 21, 20-year-old woman
01:27:03.160
and you always want to bring it to the P word stuff. Because last time we debated it. But it's
01:27:10.020
irrelevant. Let's just for the sake of a conversation. How's it irrelevant if you're bringing
01:27:14.180
up my last time on here? You can't just bring up bits and pieces of what I said. No, but you were
01:27:18.440
making the argument that 30 and 20 or 40 and 20, that's... I did not make that argument. I said,
01:27:27.280
I must have said 18 because I know. I have a question. Do you feel the same way about women?
01:27:31.300
Because like Demi Moore dated somebody really young, nobody batted an eye. Jada Pinkett Smith
01:27:35.360
dated somebody 20 years younger than her. I think it's disgusting. Nobody gave a fuck. I think it's
01:27:38.520
disgusting. Like even my ex-girlfriend, I started a huge thing in high school because my ex-girlfriend
01:27:43.400
started dating her girlfriend when she was in seventh grade and her girlfriend was a senior
01:27:47.080
in high school. I was like, that shit's fucking nasty. I exposed, I exposed the hell out of her
01:27:51.200
girlfriend. I was like, you're a trifle. And I was like, if this was, she was my ex-girlfriend's
01:27:56.400
best friend. It was her older sister. I was like, if this would have been, if you would have been a
01:27:59.580
boy, this would have been everywhere. This would have not been cool. Everyone would have been on it.
01:28:03.080
And I exposed it too. As soon as we got together and I found out about it, I was like, oh, she's out of
01:28:07.080
her mind. Like she's nasty. I don't think it's right if it's girl, girl, boy, boy, boy, girl. And it's not because
01:28:13.280
there is, I'm sure there is certain situations and instances where there is 30 year old or 40
01:28:18.820
year old men in the same position as maybe a 21 year old. But I, it will never sit right with me
01:28:23.900
how a 40 plus year old man could fall in love or be romantically involved with somebody under the
01:28:32.340
age of 21 for it to not be for some type of weird reason. 20? Under, yes. I think a lot of things
01:28:39.220
change at 21 personally for the fact that like, like I remember I was 20 and I started dating this
01:28:45.840
guy for a little bit. He was 26 when we, I felt like a whole child and it was only six years
01:28:51.260
difference because I couldn't even go to the bar with him if he wanted to. I couldn't go to the club
01:28:55.240
with him if I wanted to. I couldn't go into the 21 drinking section. I couldn't go to concerts with
01:28:58.940
him. I felt like his little daughter that I couldn't do shit. Like, I don't know. I'm not saying
01:29:04.680
every man who dates young is a pedophile. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying there is a weird
01:29:09.100
connection between men who are 50 or 40 plus going after 18 year olds. Because usually you'll see the
01:29:15.220
trend. They only go after 18 year olds. It's not like, Oh, he was dating all older women. And then
01:29:19.020
one 18 year old swept him off his feet. Just remind me, how old are you? 22, probably 23.
01:29:23.400
You're 23. So what about like a guy in his thirties dating you? I would be fine with that.
01:29:29.040
Most men I'm attracted to. But that's what we're taught. That's kind of what we're talking about here.
01:29:32.120
I'm 23, not 18. Okay. Let's say 20 and 30. Let's say 20, even 20. I'm saying I just brought
01:29:37.520
my, my situation of, I don't know. I think a lot of things change after the legal drinking age
01:29:43.500
and those things you, I feel like you do grow a lot once you, at least for me, once I hit that
01:29:49.220
point. And also now after the pandemic has happened, we have a lot of these 20 year old adults who missed
01:29:54.900
out on half of their high school and still have the mentality of high schoolers because they missed out
01:29:59.980
on so much of it and are so behind, which I think adds a whole new tier into it.
01:30:07.580
No, I just personally don't think that it's weird or nothing like that, man. I feel like
01:30:10.240
people have preferences and there's a lot of women out here who have preferences. Nobody bags on them.
01:30:13.540
So I'm very big on double standards. I hate how women like constantly bag on men for things
01:30:26.020
No, and I just feel like a lot of women, not you per se, but a lot of women have been through a lot
01:30:29.820
of certain experiences and then they categorize other women like that or like even older women,
01:30:33.640
they'll complain about men dating younger women, but they're the ones who are not wanted anymore.
01:30:37.340
So they have a big mouth about that. But when they were younger, they were sucking dick from a 30
01:30:40.580
year old and they were 18 years old. So like I'd never see the reasoning for it, especially because
01:30:44.160
if that girl's not complaining, she's not saying something, why should it matter to you? You know what I'm saying?
01:30:51.480
I want to let everyone else come in on this. Do you have a take on age gap relationships?
01:30:55.360
What do you think it's an issue? A 30 year old guy dating a 20 year old, for example?
01:30:59.240
I don't think there's an issue with that at all, honestly. Like she said, people have their preferences.
01:31:05.900
Personally, I don't think that legality equals morality. So I would find it a little bit strange
01:31:14.860
if a 30 year old is wanting to date a 20 year old. Turn the mic a little bit. It's a bit
01:31:20.480
you'd think it's strange for a 30 year old to want to date a 20 year old.
01:31:28.360
Personally, because I feel that a 30 year old might not have as much in common with a 20 year old.
01:31:33.960
Maybe the sex, maybe this third is in common. Why does a 30 year old want a 20 year old? Maybe
01:31:40.080
because she's more impressionable. Maybe because she's more vulnerable. I mean,
01:31:44.780
well, that's kind of what Andrew Tate says is sometimes why he wants younger woman is because
01:31:48.320
she is more impressionable and will listen to him easier than a man than a woman who's been with
01:31:52.100
multiple men. He actually. And I don't think that is I have a question. I don't think that's a safe
01:31:56.020
connection for a 20 year old and a 30 year old. So I mean, there's there's a lot of little pieces I could jump off on
01:32:03.580
there. But I'll respond really quick. I know you want to go and then I'll let you come in.
01:32:09.400
So you're saying that a 20 year old is incapable of consenting to having sex with someone who's above
01:32:15.620
a certain age, essentially. No, I did not say that. I mean, that's you're saying it's wrong. Like, so
01:32:22.220
I'm saying that somebody who is hella older, like you're saying a 30 year old and a 20 year old,
01:32:29.840
right? Sure. 30, 30, 30 year old is going to have the control in the relationship. They're going to
01:32:35.740
have the upper hand. They're older. They're going to have more influence. Maybe this 20 year old is
01:32:40.140
going to be more vulnerable, not as strong. There's the her freaking prefrontal cortex isn't even
01:32:47.420
developed yet. Like, you know what? I agree. In fact, I think we should raise the voting age to 25.
01:32:54.520
So, I mean, I don't know if any of you vote Democrat, but that would probably impact you guys
01:33:01.580
quite a bit. And there's been many women like you brought up. So who are like hella older now,
01:33:08.720
and they're judging women who are younger. Let me ask you a question. Okay, go ahead and continue.
01:33:14.380
Who are judging younger women for doing those things? Well, Brittany Renner came to on TikTok or
01:33:20.720
whatever. And she said, you know what? At the time, I thought I was in my hot girl era. I was
01:33:26.880
like doing what men do, like hooking up, taking control of my life. And she says, you know what?
01:33:35.720
I was letting very like older men take advantage of me. But I thought that because I was an adult and I
01:33:44.280
could make my own decisions. I was so grown. But I really wasn't. You know?
01:33:48.620
I mean, zero accountability. But let me just do one quick and then I'll have you come back in. So
01:33:53.580
do you think we should raise the age for when women can start in OnlyFans? So women, I mean,
01:34:07.820
Oh, so okay. So then we should also bump the voting age for women too then.
01:34:11.520
I think the difference though, between like. That's a huge jump.
01:34:16.320
We're also saying, no, no, hold on, pause. At 18, you're legally an adult. You can, let's see,
01:34:20.800
what can you do at 18? I mean, you can sign legally binding contracts that will indebt you for
01:34:24.920
the rest of your life. You can join the, hold on, you can join the military. You can purchase a
01:34:29.700
firearm. You can start doing porn. You can start, I mean, there's a whole bunch of other stuff.
01:34:35.560
We're saying raise the works for OnlyFans, strippers, sex workers in general to 21. That's not just
01:34:40.820
women too. Men are sex workers too. So it'll be raising for them too. So they would have to wait
01:34:44.300
till 21 too with your point there. So I don't get how that makes any sense.
01:34:48.080
But this argument is always framed from the point of view of.
01:34:56.120
That's what we're talking about. You just ask us a new question about OnlyFans.
01:34:59.460
You just ask us a different question right now about OnlyFans. And we're saying to raise the age.
01:35:02.640
But she's talking about the prefrontal cortex and that they're not able to.
01:35:05.740
Yeah. I have a big problem with like, I just don't really like any of the arguments that
01:35:09.880
come from the standpoint of like women who are 20. Cause I'm 21. Like I'm like basically
01:35:15.200
that age right now saying that women that age have something wrong with their brains that
01:35:22.680
Yeah. Well, okay. That they're not like developed enough that I'm not developed enough
01:35:27.140
She's saying the same thing about how to choose my body.
01:35:29.860
It is a biological fact that your prefrontal cortex is not developed until you're like
01:35:36.600
And the prefrontal cortex is the part of your brain that is important in making decisions.
01:35:46.800
But for like a lot of you guys speaking on these type of things, not every woman is the
01:35:52.020
Like I knew when I was 22 years old, I grew up in a very different lifestyle with my grandparents
01:35:56.220
and stuff. So like I never was ran through. I never started sleeping around with guys.
01:35:59.060
I had like a good upbringing, but this thing that you said before about Andrew Tate, something
01:36:06.680
How come a man can't have a woman who listens to him?
01:36:09.140
Why would he want to be with somebody who's not cooperative, doesn't listen to him?
01:36:11.660
You said that before, something about him wanting just a girl who listens, something
01:36:14.360
Oh, I already mentioned before, I think men want a submissive woman.
01:36:18.020
I brought it up because he just said, I forgot exactly what he said, but he said something
01:36:21.460
about how, oh, men don't care about like some, he's stated something saying the
01:36:26.520
opposite of what Andrew Tate said in that statement about how he wants, he does like
01:36:30.360
women who are younger because they have less, they've been through less men and whatever.
01:36:34.100
And he was making some comment about how they wouldn't or something.
01:36:36.960
And I was like, no, cause that's literally what he said in that, in the one we review
01:36:40.340
That was my only, that was my only point with that.
01:36:42.440
I do believe why if a man wants a submissive woman, hey, go for it.
01:36:45.440
I, if I have no problem also being submissive in a marriage myself, but it's a marriage,
01:36:51.900
I mean, it's, are you, we're bringing you back to what Andrew Tate said.
01:36:57.420
I mean, better looking, lower body count, less baggage, more fertile.
01:37:05.760
I mean, if that's, yeah, if that's what you prefer, that's what you prefer.
01:37:08.240
And there's other men who would prefer, and maybe an older woman or a woman who does have
01:37:14.980
My only point, cause he brought this up from the last podcast, which you guys weren't present.
01:37:18.300
So I feel like it was very unfair to even go back to this because now you guys are going
01:37:21.380
to debate off of things that, without knowing the full thing.
01:37:24.220
My thing was, I was never saying that because I know there's people are different.
01:37:27.380
There might be some 20 year olds out there that are in the exact same place as a bum ass
01:37:33.220
I was just saying, I think, and I, he keeps, we keep getting away from it because he doesn't
01:37:38.720
So that's why we're not, my point's not getting across.
01:37:40.740
I'm just saying it's wrong to not say that there is a link between man, men who like
01:37:46.840
very young women who would still, who would, if they could go after women underneath the
01:37:54.220
I mean, if they're that bad of men, why don't they just go for the younger women?
01:37:57.640
They typically do, but it's because he brought up a data point that started at 18 and I was
01:38:02.300
saying if it could go to 16, it would, but none of you guys saw that data point.
01:38:12.600
That's how you view men that you think that if they could, they date younger, right?
01:38:19.140
There's, you're trying to say there's not men out here that wouldn't, but I'm saying
01:38:23.040
Of course there are some men who are P words and there are some men that are predators,
01:38:26.880
but most, most men, and by the way, most men do prefer, or they do find younger women,
01:38:38.580
But that's not the sole reason they want to be with them.
01:38:51.080
Like imagine if I said that about you, like you manipulate a whole bunch of people.
01:39:10.000
We're saying it's weird when their preference might be based on something that's not just a
01:39:16.520
Brian is saying that the main reason why older men go for younger women is solely because
01:39:22.320
they're attractive, better looking than older women.
01:39:28.280
Personally, I believe the other reasons why an older gentleman would want to go for a young
01:39:34.000
girl that just turned 18, 19, 20 is because they can have more influence on her.
01:39:42.020
More so than a woman who is maybe 25, 26, 27, has had a lot of experience in relationships
01:39:51.400
Or we just don't want to date a woman who's been ran through and has a bunch of emotional
01:39:55.200
Is every woman that's over 20 years old ran through them?
01:39:58.020
The older you are, the more likelihood to have had a higher partner count.
01:40:26.760
What makes you, so you're saying ran through loose, right?
01:40:29.660
What makes you somebody who's been in a relationship the past two years fucking who knows how much
01:40:34.580
versus me who's had intercourse four times this past year, wouldn't, just because it's the same dick,
01:40:40.540
wouldn't yours be looser than mine on that logic deal when it comes to relationships?
01:40:49.580
I've been so, I've said so much shit on this podcast.
01:40:52.780
And I've literally admitted to the fucking insane shit on here.
01:41:04.500
It's kind of funny, though, that women try to frame this like as a criticism of men,
01:41:08.140
like, that men are bad for wanting to dominate when Fifty Shades of Grey is like one of the
01:41:14.860
best-selling books of all time, and women want to be dominated in the bedroom.
01:41:19.900
Hey, I'm down for some fucking gentle sex, but y'all want to be choked and all this fucking shit.
01:41:24.420
Like, so on one hand, you want a man to be dominant, but you also criticize men for being
01:41:39.220
I feel like domination is a term that's like implying that a man is superior and the woman
01:41:53.120
No, I would, I'd want us to be on the same level.
01:42:01.480
Is being choked in the bedroom being dominated?
01:42:16.020
So you, you just, you're not into rough sex, like strictly gentle sex?
01:42:35.940
But okay, I mean, I, to kind of argue for you, dominance within the confines of the bedroom
01:42:42.780
is different, can be different than from the relationship.
01:42:50.340
But so I just, I don't get this because you're trying to link, you're trying to link guys
01:42:58.500
who prefer to date younger women, you think, and tell me if I'm getting this right, men
01:43:04.700
who prefer younger women, if some of them, maybe even a good amount of them, if they
01:43:18.460
We've done this, we've, okay, no, because you have to understand where I'm coming from.
01:43:21.180
We started this argument, actually, the first podcast I came on.
01:43:24.400
And we argumented, we argued about it almost half the time.
01:43:26.500
The second podcast that came on, we argued about it almost half the time.
01:43:31.080
Like, I've done it for hours and hours and hours now already.
01:43:35.800
It's my personal opinion based off personal experiences and accounts I've seen from other
01:43:39.360
women, and I will die on this hill, and I'm not changing my opinion.
01:43:42.180
And it sounds like you guys aren't either, so on to the next debate.
01:43:45.020
Well, I mean, no, we'll stick to it for a little bit, so.
01:43:47.780
I'll stay quiet over here, and you guys can continue how I was saying.
01:43:59.600
Like, comparing men or trying to create some sort of link that men who are attracted to
01:44:04.620
younger women, again, keyword women, that it's somehow P word, pedophilia, hold on.
01:44:10.720
That would be like me saying that women who want to date tall men have some, have, are
01:44:18.800
incestophiles because they have daddy issues, because they want to look up to a guy, because
01:44:27.140
Like, you have some weird, incestuous fetishization to date taller men because they remind you of
01:44:34.720
That second statement, I'm going to ignore the hell out of that.
01:44:38.040
Based off your first statement, though, you keep saying young women.
01:44:40.300
I just, I'm trying to emphasize, I am talking about 18 to 20 years old.
01:44:48.080
I know it's young women, but you keep saying like younger women.
01:44:50.260
Like, I'm saying like 25 and below, or like 30 and below.
01:44:54.280
Like, I mean, that strict gap of 18, 19, and 20.
01:44:58.060
I think 30 year olds and plus should just wait until they are, don't have teen in their
01:45:06.040
You would take quarrel if I dated a 19 year old.
01:45:09.720
I would look at it like, damn, like you're a bum if you have that much in common with
01:45:14.040
I mean, or, or that you're, or that 19 year old.
01:45:16.460
I've been like, damn, she must either be a very successful 19 year old, or he must be
01:45:21.620
Because what do you guys have in common to be dating?
01:45:23.300
Bro, it's a W to be dating a fucking 20, 19, 20 year old daddy.
01:45:36.960
I don't say like, oh yeah, I just scored a 56 year old man.
01:45:58.080
You would think it strange of me if I found you physically attractive.
01:46:06.660
I never said that there was nothing wrong with it.
01:46:11.180
I honestly look very, very different than I did at 20 years old.
01:46:15.000
And I'm not saying it in a sexual desiring way too.
01:46:17.720
I'm saying it in the point of like dating and on.
01:46:20.920
It's like for, cause one, okay, here, let me back up.
01:46:26.060
One of your biggest points, or at least Chase's biggest points the other time, was that men
01:46:33.020
So that means, that's saying that you are going to be obviously dating them.
01:46:36.260
I would hope you're not just meeting a random 19 year old fuck and I'm getting them pregnant,
01:46:39.760
So you're going to be in a relationship with them, getting married, and then having kids
01:46:42.560
But I have, I do see it kind of weird that somebody 30 plus is having enough in common
01:46:47.880
with, which I said, there's obviously situational where there is some women who are much older
01:46:55.360
And I would say the man is either a bum or something.
01:46:57.680
Like how can you get along so well with somebody who just graduated high school when you graduated
01:47:04.020
Like you should be in a different place of your life.
01:47:05.400
I understand your point exactly, like I respect your opinion and all, but again, people can
01:47:09.280
meet at the workplace, people can meet all over the world and you might not even know
01:47:12.300
their age and then get with them and now people are looking at you like you're a fucking perv
01:47:15.080
or a weirdo, but you didn't even know her age when you first met her.
01:47:17.180
And a lot of these young girls, they look a little bit older.
01:47:19.200
I see nothing wrong with a guy dating a girl who's younger.
01:47:23.040
And guys like anime, a lot of younger girls like anime, video games.
01:47:27.360
Older women, I'm 28 and I've met women my age who don't like anime.
01:47:32.680
So of course a guy's going to talk to a 22 year old who's into that.
01:47:36.220
Why would he talk to a 30 year old or somebody older who's literally bagging on everything
01:47:41.140
Older women, not to be rude, but a lot of them bag on men and bag on their preferences.
01:47:50.960
And trust me guys, I'm studying to be a therapist.
01:47:54.040
So this is not just me talking out of my mouth.
01:48:01.080
Can you articulate what advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus 21 for
01:48:12.340
It's just I would struggle unless I'm saying, yes, there's exceptional things, but I would
01:48:16.180
just struggle to see what you have in common with somebody who just graduated high school
01:48:19.700
a few months ago when you've graduated a decade and a half ago.
01:48:22.880
I would just, yes, you might have some things in common.
01:48:28.220
Like you might have some things in common, but for the most part, most 18 year old girls
01:48:43.280
I know are not in the same place in their, in their life as the average 30 plus year old
01:48:50.240
I'm saying what, but what do men and women have in common in general?
01:48:57.100
Because no, I'm not saying, I'm not even saying just music.
01:48:59.140
I'm just saying like, this girl is going to cheer practice while he should be hopefully
01:49:03.180
having maybe a home and like paying bills and shit while she's having a bow in her hair
01:49:25.460
So, and I'll tell you when to switch it, Carson.
01:49:31.080
That's, they broke up, but Camila or some shit that, that was his girlfriend for a couple
01:49:46.680
And the next photo is what Kiara, Kiara, did I say it right?
01:49:56.460
When you see, this is what, this is what you see.
01:50:17.520
Like, what do you, can we please agree to fucking disagree?
01:50:21.840
Because I don't think she's going to change her point.
01:50:23.820
I'm not, there's literally nothing you could say to me that I'm going to say you're right.
01:50:31.940
So I ask, I ask again, what advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus 21?
01:50:37.940
Um, that she doesn't have a locker in a high school hallway, um, that hopefully she's not
01:50:47.380
Maybe that her parents are tracking her location.
01:50:49.180
What 21 year old has a locker and lives with their parents?
01:50:52.220
Once again, I'm not talking about 21 year olds.
01:50:55.380
I thought he was, he just asked you though, you're shifting the goalposts.
01:50:59.880
But okay, no, but my question was, what advantages are there to dating a woman who is 31 versus
01:51:09.640
I'm thinking you'll be in a similar, more similar place in life.
01:51:15.680
A woman who is 30, she might have a more developed career.
01:51:22.480
When you're building a family, a man wouldn't care to build with, okay.
01:51:28.420
Some men, if, I mean, depending on their earning capability, but I mean, my goal is to be retired
01:51:34.160
at 40 and I'll be able to provide for everything.
01:51:41.600
I think that a man would, a man and a woman who are closer in age, they would just, like
01:51:52.280
A woman, I can say for surely that I'm 22 and I've made really poor decisions when
01:52:05.380
Why does that mean that you wouldn't be able to date someone that was 30?
01:52:14.880
So are you, you had this argument earlier about like the prefrontal cortexing and I guess
01:52:20.920
your past self like 12 months ago was like way different than like decisions you would
01:52:25.360
So are you telling me like right now, I, as a 21 year old, do not have the like mental,
01:52:33.200
enough mental capacity to make proper decisions about my body in relationships?
01:52:39.800
No, I'm saying that everybody who does not have a developed prefrontal cortex is probably
01:52:47.780
not making the best decisions that they can for themselves.
01:52:52.080
That's because the prefrontal cortex, that's a part of the brain that deals with decision
01:52:57.580
So should we move the age of consent to 25 when everyone has a fully developed prefrontal
01:53:03.520
Before you're going to tell, I'm going to say that.
01:53:08.620
Well, then don't say that people under 25 like.
01:53:11.300
The example we're giving is somebody, no matter the gender, forget the gender, somebody dating
01:53:16.580
someone for one person who's under that timeframe of your prefrontal cortex, whatever, fucking
01:53:21.360
getting developed versus somebody who's already past that time where their prefrontal cortex
01:53:27.300
So maybe easier for them to, like we said before, either manipulate or girls not to realize what's
01:53:37.000
Like maybe sign a lease with this man and be stuck with him forever.
01:53:39.180
Or maybe they're, they would take abuse that they wouldn't usually take if they were older.
01:53:48.560
I feel like when women reach a less vulnerable age, they can make better decisions.
01:53:53.460
They can be like, oh, this guy, maybe this guy genuinely does enjoy who I am as a person
01:54:01.960
I feel like maybe you are not that developed or that knowledgeable at a younger age to decipher
01:54:08.440
whether a man wants you for you or your body or for like what you do for him, you know?
01:54:14.600
Yeah, so should then younger women or men not be, are we saying that like it's better
01:54:20.360
that they not have relationships if they're not able to make good relationship decisions?
01:54:23.560
We're saying they have relationships with people in the same developed cortex of them.
01:54:27.340
So people with developed cortexes have relationships with people with developed cortexes and people
01:54:30.940
with undeveloped cortexes have relationships with people with undeveloped cortexes.
01:54:38.020
I mean, a guy who's 27 could have a developed cortex and I wouldn't.
01:54:53.700
It's like when we say a point, there could be no exceptions.
01:54:56.580
But then when you guys say a point, it's like, well, obviously we mean the exception of this.
01:55:02.240
It's just a crazy thing to say that people who are like the 21 year olds, like you're basically
01:55:08.440
just saying, like, I don't have the mental capacity to...
01:55:15.020
What I'm saying, Tara, is that you may not have enough life experience or development
01:55:30.660
I feel like that's not a great argument because even the girl last time that was on here,
01:55:33.800
she was like 30-something, didn't make the best decisions.
01:55:37.740
So when she keeps saying this young shit, like it has nothing to do with that.
01:55:40.780
It's how you were raised, who taught you what your upbringing was.
01:55:44.240
Yes, I understand what you're saying, but that doesn't go for everybody.
01:55:50.420
You're going to tell me that a girl who's doing OF at 18 years old, she's literally flicking
01:55:54.280
her being online, lives on her own, doing her own thing, can't make her own decisions now?
01:55:58.440
All of a sudden, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
01:56:16.500
If you don't hear your tone when you're speaking to me, you're insane.
01:56:18.760
If you don't hear your tone when you're speaking to me, you're insane.
01:56:31.300
And I've honestly, sometimes when you say it, I'm like, maybe I get it.
01:56:35.220
But a lot of it just sounds like, pick me, pick me, pick me, choose me, choose me, love me, love me.
01:56:40.980
We can't have the opposite fucking opinion of somebody without being a pick me.
01:56:46.740
But the ones that you're broadcasting are just very pick me-ish.
01:56:51.680
You're literally just arguing for no reason, insulting.
01:56:56.320
You can call me a five-year-old, the last sentence.
01:57:04.520
And yes, I'm Team Tate, because you keep bagging on him.
01:57:33.820
You literally talk about labia surgery on here, and I can't say fucking, like, come on.
01:57:59.880
That's not the only thing she brings to the table, though.
01:58:02.000
I feel like an older woman is more intelligent.
01:58:04.920
She's been through, like, more in life to where-
01:58:21.500
And that baggage doesn't only come from relationships.
01:59:39.540
Actually, I did a 45-year-old cutie, you know, recently.
01:59:48.640
Is that, did she, do I have to answer that question?
01:59:54.780
I didn't know you were, you went in a time machine
01:59:59.680
I feel like just because men like younger women,
02:00:02.120
they do not have to go for exceptionally young women.
02:00:16.760
in the same way that, like, you can keep edging out
02:00:21.120
oh, you know, 5'11's good, 6, 6 feet would be better,
02:00:24.180
6'1, 6'2", so it's like 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, you know?
02:00:47.540
And sexual purity, I mean, virginity is obviously crazy,
02:00:55.280
or like all men prefer women with a low body count?
02:01:14.460
I don't know why there's an assumption, though,
02:01:23.100
Like, I don't understand why that's such a heavy correlation.
02:01:30.460
a younger age woman who gets along very well with an older man,
02:01:39.160
that are of more grown stature from a younger age.
02:02:11.020
could have been in relationships the whole time,
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that's why I feel like it's very hard to assume that
02:07:45.740
I don't like women who are hairy on their arms,
02:10:05.920
a lot of people aren't going to go down on that.
02:10:47.040
If he doesn't want to be able to grow with a fro,
02:11:33.100
she's actually probably one of my only girlfriends
02:11:38.180
Most of them are actually conservative Republican men,
02:11:48.360
Like it seems every time a guy has a preference,
02:11:59.180
Like it's either insecure or misogyny or controlling or dominant or whatever.
02:12:08.820
y'all want to go to the P word thing real quick.
02:12:11.620
Because I feel like that preference is rooted in something else.
02:12:39.580
if a woman is preferring that a man is like all clean shaven everywhere,
02:12:44.460
I also would think that's a little bit strange.
02:12:54.920
I can articulate a reason why a woman might prefer a guy's clean shaven.
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You can have your preferences and I can believe that they're strange or not.
02:13:19.060
it's unfair to assume that both genders are pedophilic.
02:13:31.240
you can't assume that childlike does mean pedophilic,
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if she would be straight up using that word that it is.
02:13:37.580
She's just saying it does resemble prepubescent when we don't have hair.
02:13:41.880
And why is that the first thing you guys think of?
02:13:44.620
when I'm listening to you guys and that's the first thing you think of,
02:14:02.260
the research shows that men who prefer women who are clean shaven are.
02:14:09.280
I'm so tired of taking my shit out of the context.
02:14:13.860
I'm saying it's just based off of my research that I do.
02:14:16.740
It does create me to look at certain things like this a little bit more deeply.
02:14:24.760
And what we're doing and why things happen and the people in it and everything into working.
02:14:31.540
I'm not saying exactly that I've studied the shaving thing,
02:14:38.660
scraping the level and there is that iceberg underneath.
02:14:41.380
That is some of a topic that we do bring up nowadays in sociology.
02:14:44.880
I'm not saying it's correct or I agree with it,
02:14:49.160
sometimes you'll want to take that layer off and think,
02:14:55.880
Gaisley Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and all this.
02:15:05.140
I think a lot of us looked at things a little bit more with the critical eye.
02:15:10.900
Cause it was right in front of our faces and we didn't even know.
02:15:25.100
that men who are attracted to either younger women or who have a preference for women who are shaved down there,
02:15:33.980
if I'm willing to concede that that is problematic because they're want children.
02:15:39.320
Are you willing to concede that women that are attracted to tall men have an incestuous fetishization for their fathers because they want to look up and look at a tall man?
02:16:17.280
I don't care how tall she is or how short he is.
02:16:21.700
I think I would prefer a man that's like my height or taller.
02:16:25.960
Does that mean that I don't find shorter men attractive?
02:16:32.340
what you've just told me is incredibly problematic.
02:16:35.140
The fact that you would prefer to date a guy who's taller than you means that you are incestuous.
02:16:43.200
But I'm not against dating somebody who's as tall as me or shorter.
02:16:57.800
If that's my preference and that's your opinion on my preference.
02:17:02.020
So you're allowed to have an opinion and I'm allowed to have a preference.
02:17:04.760
I identify as the correct person on this issue.
02:17:08.680
will you affirm my identity as the correct person on this issue?
02:18:56.700
I guess you could just answer the soup chat as is.
02:19:10.380
And you're not willing to take like something for it.
02:19:42.080
If he's going to do everything a woman's going to do for me,
02:20:03.840
I don't think I've ever like took her pants down and was like,
02:20:08.860
I don't really know what you mean by any outie.
02:20:14.460
You're talking about like beef curtains versus no beef curtains.
02:20:48.500
I debated like going to her later and being like,
02:20:52.940
you never know how someone's going to take something.
02:20:58.080
But she got back with her ex-girlfriend like a couple weeks after that.
02:21:23.600
I wouldn't take it completely personal because I realized that there's a lot of
02:21:39.840
Like if you were married and then he started getting,
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that's why I'm saying we're already together at that point.
02:21:54.760
That's why I like when people say they're waiting till marriage.
02:22:03.140
Cause that's what leads to cheating and adultery and all this stuff.
02:22:05.740
If you're not pleased in bed to the full amount,
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I just don't see the need to put blame on either person.
02:24:41.780
it's just easier to establish a respectful dynamic between the cup.
02:24:45.760
The men with options will always take the best available option.
02:25:06.740
This soup chat probably came in when she was still here.
02:25:12.200
45 minutes behind on the soup chats or the most recent one.
02:25:44.440
short and dumb for wanting someone that is more stronger than you,
02:26:02.820
wording his sentences because every single one he sends is like,
02:26:18.160
Basically because women shame men for what they want as preferences.
02:26:27.660
Cause just because I'm with a man who's weak or with a man who's strong and
02:26:32.000
the other ones doesn't mean now that I'm short or not.
02:26:36.440
maybe I am because I'm always wording it because I don't think those go hand
02:26:40.400
Why can't we be strong and tall and shit together?
02:26:50.400
then should women not date at all until they're 21 men in their 18s are more
02:27:03.640
you could even argue that younger women are actually at their peak agency when
02:27:09.840
I think you have the most negotiating power when it comes to finding a partner at
02:27:26.620
I think women get way more experience than men do in the dating realm at a young
02:27:36.520
I think are just more attuned socially to begin with.
02:27:39.200
So women are just already running circles around men,
02:27:49.500
she's had way more experience dealing with men.
02:27:55.600
You've had way more experience dealing with men than the reverse.
02:27:59.340
I wouldn't say that because I definitely know that boys at my high school,
02:28:03.260
at least we're going rampant while most of the girls weren't for the fear of
02:28:08.780
But I do agree with your statement that at the same age and at least
02:28:17.080
At the exact same age growing up have more intellectual power and can maybe
02:28:26.560
But I don't think that's because they have more experience or not.
02:28:45.020
I would say overall there was more guys getting more experience.
02:28:47.980
The guys are getting more experience with girls than vice versa because guys
02:28:52.260
weren't scared of being called a hoe or a whore for hopping into a relationship
02:28:55.820
relationship or hooking up with this girl or dating this girl.
02:29:03.400
Like if they would move on from one guy too quickly,
02:29:13.740
we got Eric Chilson here with the $10 soup chat.
02:29:16.740
These women are looking at relationships like they're a battlefield instead of a
02:29:22.220
Thinking men want to manipulate their partners is such a pessimistic,
02:29:35.080
is she better off fucking a 20 year old fuck boy?
02:29:38.720
Who's going to fucking play games with her fucking trucker,
02:29:43.620
just run a one night stand or a 30 year old guy who wants a genuine loving
02:30:12.280
He could do more things for you than a fuck boy.
02:30:13.780
He's probably going to be around a whole bunch of little girls.
02:30:15.880
It's all he wants to keep messing around with girls.
02:30:20.940
I don't want to like frame it from a point of view of like damaging that
02:30:26.840
if you do say it's somehow problematic in some way for a woman to want to
02:30:35.900
I would assume that just getting passed around by a bunch of 20 year old
02:30:39.800
fuck boys that don't fucking treat her poorly versus dating an older guy.
02:30:51.820
It just seems like that's would be better for her.
02:31:08.620
there's certainly 20 year old men that are happy to find commitment.
02:31:13.120
And there's 30 year old guys that just want a one night stand.
02:31:21.000
Some of you live in Ivy or did live in Isla Vista.
02:31:30.520
I guess I wasn't even listening for like a year,
02:31:43.840
but like a lot of the complaints that women have that live here in Isla Vista,
02:31:54.180
That's the common complaint I hear from women who go to UCSB who come on the show.
02:32:04.300
just fucked once and then maybe that's what they want.
02:32:07.700
Maybe they just want to fuck a guy once and then never talk to him again.
02:32:13.160
Have you guys ever met like a 30 year old man that like you guys seen as like a good,
02:32:19.900
she's way younger and she's dating like a 30 something year old.
02:32:24.740
He does everything for her and she used to get fucked over a lot.
02:32:30.540
So I see nothing wrong with dating an older guy,
02:32:32.320
especially if he's more stable and like mature.
02:32:34.180
I don't see anything wrong with dating an older guy either.
02:32:39.380
but it depends for me on how big that age gap is.
02:32:56.060
Would I want her as a 20 year old to date a 33 year old man?
02:33:05.940
I don't know if this is the smartest decision to make and to be in a relationship with a 33
02:33:19.520
I do think I would enjoy dating somebody who is older because they are a little bit more
02:33:29.300
I think that you literally just answered your own question.
02:33:31.420
So why wouldn't it be okay for her to date that person?
02:33:36.760
And you're over here thinking negative and you don't even know the guy yet.
02:33:40.520
And I'm not saying you're just exactly saying that,
02:33:43.200
I would say you have a negative thought about that.
02:33:57.480
why can't you connect with people without having sex?
02:34:18.180
You guys act like the only reason why someone wants to be not in a relationship.
02:34:32.500
we all want to be married or want something like that.
02:34:39.160
why not let her be married and be with somebody who might take care of her in the future
02:34:42.180
instead of tainting it and having your mindset on something negative
02:34:50.040
I was just talking about your ran through comment.
02:34:51.600
I wasn't even listening to the fuck I'm talking about.
02:35:19.940
You're going to be an 80 year old grandma hanging out with your friends.
02:35:22.160
My grandma stays with her friends every day and she loves them.
02:35:25.580
You think relationships are the end all be all of life?
02:35:29.380
The only point of life is to be in a relationship.
02:35:36.320
I was raised by my Roman Catholic grandparents.
02:35:40.440
So it doesn't seem like you even picked up any of their information that they told you.
02:35:44.380
everybody else has different things that they want for themselves.
02:36:20.000
Which is more attractive to y'all if a guy can get other women or if a guy can't get
02:36:25.060
And is it attractive if you find out that your guy has visited a lot of strip clubs?
02:36:36.640
and experience doesn't make a woman more sexier or attractive.
02:36:51.880
And also with the whole like career money thing,
02:36:54.240
you brought that up before in terms of what a guy would have in common with
02:37:03.740
it doesn't really matter to us is because women don't really share their
02:37:07.800
resources with the men the same way that men share their resources with
02:37:14.460
especially early on the same way that a guy will spoil a girl.
02:37:18.900
I feel like it's unfair to make that assumption.
02:37:29.500
And spoiling doesn't only have to be in like terms of money.
02:37:53.480
for the man to be the one spoiling and having more money.
02:37:56.680
most of the time when I have met women who are financially able to,
02:38:01.820
I've dated very successful women who make a lot of money.
02:38:05.540
They don't even want to pay for the first date.
02:38:26.220
but I'm just saying that I think that there are definitely women that do that to help a man.
02:38:39.300
Maybe they'll like hold a guy down for a couple months,
02:38:43.940
they're going to start having contempt for their partner.
02:38:57.480
most women are not offering on a date to pay the whole bill.
02:39:02.340
Whereas guys will do that shit all the fucking time.
02:39:10.540
The reason why divorces are ending because women make more money.
02:39:25.540
And that number rises to 90% if she's college educated and she's the breadwinner.
02:39:33.040
So if she makes more money for some strange reason,
02:39:42.900
that might just go to that and you can continue.
02:39:46.540
it's just the only thing I was going to end with is that the,
02:39:51.380
the way I can dispel this idea that women don't share their resources with men
02:39:57.880
or that women don't spoil their men the same way that men spoil women is women.
02:40:10.920
That's not what you said last time you were on the show.
02:40:16.000
So I just watched what I said and I went to rewatch what you cut out.
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I probably will never be paying for a first date.
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Cause I don't ever see myself pursuing somebody and asking them out on a first date.
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I think whoever asked someone would like asking men out on date.
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I want to go get some coffee or go get some food.
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I'll wait till guys approach me or initiate with me.
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guys don't have the benefit of just waiting for women to come to them.
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Y'all are the ones who set all these standards in place,
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But it is naive to say that whoever pays should ask,
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It's naive to say that that's how it ought to be,
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because it ignores the fact that in the vast majority of instances where somebody's asking someone out,
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But I only reason why I say whoever asked to pay is for those exceptions that we have.
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I don't know if they want to cry about it or not.
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as someone who's probably gone over on over a hundred first dates,
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Have you seen those like TikToks where they went through all their first dates?
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I don't know if you want to cry about it or not,
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You go and buy me a pretty ring worth thousands of dollars,
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I will come back to the super chat now that you're back.
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and is it attractive if you find out that your guy has visited a lot of strip
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Because women always complain about men being around so many,
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because I can't deal with like a Drake or Chris Brown,
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I don't really think that that determines how attractive you are for me.
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I definitely would rather have you not get many women than get a lot of
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if it's like a one night drunk out with your dudes,
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Would you prefer your guy to get a lot of girls?
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I would prefer it if my boyfriend didn't go to the strip club.
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He's in the top North American hardcore reigning guild
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What do you guys think is like the best guild loot system?
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ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
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But who am I to mark myself off points already?
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I feel like that's just introducing or allowing somebody to come in and just disrespect me even more.
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because you guys spent so much time on here talking about filters and editing,
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I could literally see most of the lines curving on them,
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Half of those girls don't even look like that in person.
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but to use as an example with versus women sitting right in front of you versus some girls you've never seen in real life,
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Probably never even seen them moving besides a still photo.
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And that's why y'all shouldn't be using filters on dating apps.
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We literally all agreed with you with that statement.
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We've got to get through the super chats and then we're going to,
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get your super chats in because once we're done,
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So yo freeze and thank you for the $20 super chat.
02:53:10.760
Her tone of voice is only rude when she says something that the world doesn't agree with.
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No, but you're not going to tell me to shut up.
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Yo, both of you, both of you, let me do the super chats, and then you guys can.
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They are gatekeepers of sex, and they can't even take accountability for their own choice.
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Quiznos, thank you for the big $20 super chat, man.
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I think if you grew up and lived elsewhere other than the U.S., you wouldn't have the same
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If your mom raised you to identify good men versus predators, the benefits of dating an
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If your mom didn't train you and you fall for the predator, well, then you turn bitter
02:56:20.000
Shaving down there is just being considerate these days.
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Also, when you're 34 and you've got dozens and dozens of notches on your belt, what kind
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Promiscuity devalues, devalues you in the dating pool?
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Didn't you sell your childhood shoes to an older man?
02:56:46.940
Men don't want women with a lot of experience because lower chance of pair bonding and combativeness.
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They don't have anything to say, but Jordan, thank you for the $10 super chat.
02:57:12.220
If you can, if you do that, if you, only if you have tricks, only if you can do tricks.
02:57:33.860
Chase was saying some basic, basic conservative things last time.
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I think, honestly, at this point in my life, I probably know more conservative men than liberal men.
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And I'm quite close to them, hanging out with them almost daily.
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Spent actually all morning helping me move into my place today.
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Spent all yesterday with them, all the day before.
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A conservative, conservative guys helped you move?
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They're like my closest friends, I would say, are lean more conservative these days.
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Because I'm, I'm aware that we will have disagreements on things.
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Like with Chase, he was saying that a trans woman is a man, period.
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That, if that's his opinion, that is totally fine.
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If he doesn't want to date a trans man or a trans woman, that's his prerogative.
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I just don't like when you try to make your views as fact.
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And it's not, it's quite clear that you and Chase control most of the narrative on this podcast.
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So no, I did not want to be a part of something that was saying that trans people are stuck
02:58:50.060
I mean, he was saying that he doesn't view it from a lens of gender.
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Someone who is a transgender woman is biologically male.
02:59:08.620
When we were talking about before I, before I gave him a second before I left.
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Actually, the main reason why I left is because he told me to make him do something or whatever.
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And I was like, okay, this is getting too much.
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How are you going to tell me that people like Nikita Dragon.
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And the judge said, I can't help you if it does, but I never did before, before we have
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She came out and said she was never placed in a man's prison.
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But before we have a heated conversation on this, why don't we save it till the end of
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No, I'm not having this conversation because I'm not debating.
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Is there a single trans person sitting at this table?
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So why are we debating something that no one here can stand up for themselves and state
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We debated man versus woman and those things because that affects us all directly.
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You can still not be a dick during debate, though.
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Okay, so like, for example, you said there's no Asian people here.
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I mean, I could say, for example, that I think it's unfair that Asian people are discriminated
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There's no Asian people here, but I'm happy to say that I'm more than happy to discuss
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that Asian people are discriminated against when it comes to college enrollment.
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So somebody here is supposed to disagree with you.
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If we all just sit here and agree and la-li-la-li-da, then we're not debating anything.
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We can have a conversation about ways in which people that are not present are.
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But the thing we're here, we're mostly here, we're debating.
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We're not just having some cordial little conversations.
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We're here to debate back and forth, like she just said, it's a debate.
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So I don't want to debate things that nobody, I'm not saying I have to be a part of it,
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but if not a single person at the table can fit that category, then no, I don't think
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Well, I mean, I think you can have conversations and debate things where there's not like someone
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who has a vested interest in what's being debated.
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Nobody wants to watch a group of all white people debating about black rights and what
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Because what do you know about the black experience or the things going into that?
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Maybe if there's a couple black people and a few white people all debating who knows
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what side they're on, that's totally fun because they're there to defend themselves.
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Well, you'd be a great debate person because you're a part of the LGBTQ community.
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It is that serious because it's people's lives and it's people's livelihood.
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This podcast gets thousands and thousands and thousands of views.
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You guys sitting up here and saying all this bullshit.
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I mean, if people are spewing a bunch of hateful shit, then that's annoying.
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But even though none of us fall into that category here, I wouldn't see a problem with
03:02:25.100
Last time, he wasn't saying it was his opinion.
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And then he started saying hate words and hateful things.
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This podcast is starting to go viral on TikTok.
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All it takes is one little clip of you saying some transphobic remark, and here you are
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And I'm not saying that that's my prerogative for what I'm doing.
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But I can't believe how no one takes that into consideration sometimes during these little
03:02:55.460
Well, Chase isn't here to defend himself, but I think you did slightly misquote what precisely
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And I think I don't recall it verbatim, but I believe he said something along the lines
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He said, no, if you're a straight man and you sleep with a trans woman, that's gay.
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I don't want to stick on this conversation too long.
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So if a straight guy sucks the dick of a transgender woman, I'm curious, transgender woman, is he still
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Whatever he sexually identifies himself as, yes, because I don't choose people's sexual
03:04:03.260
Is it not gay for a man to have his dick sitting out there while having a double man threesome
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Is it not weird for their dicks to be touching a little bit and them staring and having sex
03:04:12.300
with a naked man next to them, but they're still straight?
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Just because you have one experience doesn't change your whole sexuality forever.
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That's why I'm saying it's his opinion and it's not black and white.
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And it was wrong for him to state that as a fact.
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Or if he sleeps with a trans woman, that will make him gay.
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But to say that that's fact is just wrong to me.
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Scientific fact that women in their early 20s are more emotionally immature than men of
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Hence why younger women are attracted to older men when wanting something serious and stable.
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Emotional damage has also been proven to stunt the growth of the prefrontal cortex.
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No dating for you until you're healed by a licensed therapist.
03:05:19.220
How does the older guy have the upper hand when it is women who initiate divorce over 80%
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of the time, resulting in the men losing accumulated resources, representing the results of work?
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I think that was maybe you who said the thing about the upper hand?
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Well, you know, we'll just stick through the soup chats here.
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Kiko and Day, you can't manipulate someone unless they're incapacitated or disabled.
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Are you two saying that younger women are mentally disabled?
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That's a stupid-ass fucking way you're thinking.
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If you think people can only be manipulative if they're incapacitated or disabled, you're
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Couldn't you make the argument that women manipulate men more than men manipulate women?
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It doesn't happen to just incapacitated or disabled because it happens on both sides.
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The term manipulate, I disagree with the incapacitated or disabled thing.
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But, I mean, when it comes to finessing, bro, women finesse men way more than men are finessing
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When men finesse women, they make Netflix documentaries about it, a la Tinder Swindler.
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Whereas women are out here finessing dinner dates.
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Even if a girl did that, I would have been like, damn, like...
03:07:11.760
Yo, we got Crispy Kim with the $10 soup chat to the girl that asked if relationships are
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You can have all the money in the world, but you will be miserable without strong relationships
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I think your relationships with your family and your friends are just as important.
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By the way, we do have an Asian person because that's Crispy Kim.
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LOL, but yeah, this panel thinks female promiscuity is nice
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until it comes to admitting their body count to a potential significant other?
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I mean, I feel like if they ask and you guys are far enough in...
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I don't really see the big problem in giving out your body count.
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I think if they're asking on the first date, it's kind of just like,
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why is that the first thing that you're curious about?
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With the, actually, I wanted to ask you, on one of the previous shows,
03:09:31.180
you said that you had some bartender female friends that were like in the hundreds or something?
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Not bartender female friends, but just friends in general.
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I mean, I've known guys, I've known guys a hundred since we were 19 in our teens, but
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I mean, I've, since I've come, um, the past few years, I've definitely met women with
03:09:55.320
The ones that don't know anymore, who they would probably assume it's around like 200 or
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Does that, does anyone here like have a friend that, you know, she's the, has the highest
03:10:07.840
I know a few people who have given me numbers in like the fifties and sixties, but I haven't
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I have an honest friend right here and that's all I can have for.
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Like that's like, I don't, I don't, I don't think that it's the best thing that I've done
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Also, my friends were like in their thirties and stuff.
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So, I mean, as time goes, I guess, but still pretty.
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Women complain about men built societal structures, yet they enforce the six foot six figure rule.
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The saddest demographic of people in Western countries is 42 plus your women making 50K plus
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If studies say otherwise, that's because one fourth of women take antidepressants.
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That's a lot of, that's a lot of numbers there.
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The hypergamy of these girls is unreal and they can't even admit it to their motivations.
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So much hypocrisy, barring Tay, it's sad, but predictable.
03:11:43.660
If Asian men are at the bottom of the sexual marketplace, but when it comes to money, they
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are at the top and most women are looking for money.
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What keeps Asian men at the bottom, which I think is cap BTS, BTS for the win.
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I find Asian guys attractive, but I don't think Asian guys like black girls, do they?
03:12:10.860
I never really see them with like black women and they don't look at, they don't look at
03:12:14.560
It's usually white boys and Mexican boys that look at me.
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What I've noticed at least, the black women they do go for is not like, it's very clean
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cut, preppy, like that's the type that they usually go for, but I haven't seen an Netflix
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I was actually very upset last time I stepped away to the bathroom when a question like this
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And then I guess people at the table were all saying they're not attracted to Asian men
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And then you guys just lumped me into that when I would absolutely never say that.
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I want to say something, but I feel like you don't want me to say it.
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I don't even know how much money on them just sitting in Super Chats to comment my name in it.
03:14:02.300
If you ever see like someone became a member and you can star it.
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But if you did become a member, thank you for the support, guys.
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The fact that women all around the world were shocked that Andrew Tate message was so relatable to men.
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Men will say what women want to hear to get laid.
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Bro, Kiko, you don't know any conservative men.
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You're so far left that Brian looks like pro chump to you.
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But it's interesting that you got conservative men to help you move and not liberal.
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I don't have any liberal men friends right now.
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Kiko's showing the world what kind of women men don't want.
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Tay Tay gives me so much hope that real intellectual women do exist.
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Brian, I mean, Tay Tay, I'll leave that up to you.
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I know, so I'm going to have to come back down.
03:15:23.480
Yeah, well, next time you're in Cali, we'll get you back on.
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There is empirical data, statistics that allow us to talk about issues in other communities.
03:16:15.980
Carson, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
03:16:19.640
I have one final question, and then we're going to wrap.
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Actually, before I do that, I want to open it up to you guys.
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If any of you have a final thought or something that you want to get off your chest, dating-related or a final thought, open it up to you, and then we'll do my question, and then we'll wrap.
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I'm just happy, honestly, every time I come on here and everyone in the comments disagrees with me, because I want to be nothing like majority of the people who watch this podcast.
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So, it just affirms me that I'm going in the right direction of my beliefs and who I am as a person for the fact that they think they don't agree with me.
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I'm like, and I must be doing something right, because these are not the type of men that I want to be agreeing with me or on my side.
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I don't want to get myself out of the back, honestly.
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Do you think that there's any truth to what they're saying, or do you think they're just trying to be...
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I'm sure I could definitely miss the head on some of my opinions.
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I'm not saying my opinions are fact and always correct, but I do think hard on a lot of my opinions, and that's why I stand on them.
03:17:47.160
I'm not saying they're always 100% wrong, but overarching, we believe in very different things.
03:17:59.180
Do you guys wish that men were more straightforward, and do you think it's easy to get women as a guy?
03:18:16.820
No, I don't need men to be any more direct than they already are.
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But I know there's towns, like the town we live in, of Isla Vista or Santa Barbara, where I know plenty of women who would go home with any man they met from the club that night, or a party in Ivy.
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I saw many of my friends, like, fuck a different girl every night.
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They didn't care what number they were on the list.
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So, I would say it depends what kind of man you are.
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But also, if you're like, you know, you gotta date in your realm, stay in your realm, stay in your league.
03:19:02.740
I think it is difficult for a guy to get a girl most times, just because, you know, they've got standards.
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I feel that guys are already pretty straightforward, and I don't know.
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When it comes to getting laid, is it easier for men or women to get laid?
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I wouldn't say that they need to be more straightforward on every aspect, but I think for the most part, they are pretty straightforward.
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I think there's a couple things, but some people have a problem with honesty.
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And then I would say with, if it's easy to get women, it really just depends.
03:19:58.940
Like she was saying, if you're out at the club all the time, yeah, it's going to be probably pretty easy.
03:20:04.500
But it just, I think it really depends on a lot of different factors.
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Like, I think it depends on how the man looks as well, too.
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We're going late, so we're going to wrap there.
03:20:40.540
I think that's a stupid topic to let people believe what they want to believe.
03:20:43.780
I think it was Hensley that didn't want to come back home with Chase.
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Yo, Mangu King is it cool if I snag it next show?
03:21:18.520
I don't remember seeing another one from Mangu King, so I don't know.
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We got like over 70 soup chats tonight, so there's a lot.
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Anyways, we are going to, oh, okay, pull it up real quick.
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She hooks up with these types of men that think like the chat does and notice how hard it is
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You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
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Thanks to everyone who super chatted and supports the show.
03:22:06.620
If I miss any of you guys' soup chats, just shoot me a DM.
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But, yeah, thanks to everyone who supported the show.
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Been in the red on this podcast for a while, so appreciate it, guys.
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Thanks to all our chat mods, Zach, Candice, Nemesis, Urumeshi.
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Eric's still on the team, but he couldn't make it today.
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Guys, we'll be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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Once again, we're switching to Sunday, Tuesday.
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Have a good night, guys, and we'll see you soon.