Dating Talk #53
Episode Stats
Length
3 hours and 59 minutes
Words per Minute
193.28703
Hate Speech Sentences
239
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have a special guest on the show to talk about how to stop your period and the benefits of taking a Blue Chew pill. Plus, we get to meet a new co-host, Kiki.
Transcript
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California.
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Every Sunday and Tuesday at 7pm Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
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Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins.
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And Eric, if you can just pull up our Instagram really quick.
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By the way, guys, today's episode is proudly sponsored by Blue Chew.
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So Blue Chew is an online service that helps men get access to chewable tablets
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that helps them achieve stronger and longer-lasting erections.
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Everything is done online, so there's no awkward in-person visit to the doctor,
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Get your first month of Blue Chew for free with my code whatever.
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Anyways, guys, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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I do porn, and I took a Blue Chew last week because the Blue Chew will flush out your period.
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For the ladies, Viagra, like, when you take it and you have a pussy,
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like, the blood flow will make your period stop.
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So I was able to have, like, a day without my period, like, in the middle of my period, like, week.
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Or I guess the way anyone would chew a Blue Chew, yeah.
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But, yeah, women can take it, and it can, like, chill with, it could make their period, like, chill out.
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Like, I was like, what happens if you take a pill that'll make all the blood flow flow to your genitals?
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She's always trying to find new ways to stop her period.
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I don't know if that usage is endorsed by Blue Chew, but the views expressed by the panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of whatever the hosts.
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Anyways, did you finish your intro, by the way?
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Oh, and my Instagram and YouTube and all my handles are Kazumi's World.
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Hi, my name is Michaela, and I am 30 years old.
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I am an entrepreneur, so I am a fitness instructor.
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I also do self-love and mindset coaching, and I am in network marketing.
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I have a health and wellness business with Arbonne.
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And I am a regional vice president with the company.
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I do porn mostly on OnlyFans, and I am 21 years old.
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Also, I would like to say that in the industry, any kind of Viagra is mostly known as Blue Chew.
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So, if Blue Chew comes up again, it's not specifically that company, but that's just the kind of nickname we all give it.
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It's like when you say Coke, you mean all pop, but it's like...
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You might be mixing me up with my friend who said she was 47.
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And I'm an actress, but I go to school right now.
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Sydney, do you know that the viewers have dubbed you Thickney?
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So, we're going to go around the table once more.
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So, current relationship status, longest relationship.
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My longest relationship is like over four years, and my current relationship is a three
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and a half, and I'm in an open relationship because I do porn.
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But you, are you sleeping with other people outside of your work?
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But you said you're in an open relationship because you do corn.
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But is it open in the sense that it's open because the other people that you sleep with
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or hook up with, it's within the context of work, or is it also just open in general?
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I can hook up with people outside of work, yeah.
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I'm single, and my longest, do you count if it had a break?
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My longest, the current relationship that I am is the longest relationship I have had,
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Like, I think maybe like nine months after I graduated high school.
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Last show, you said that you had been doing cosplay for, did I say cosplay?
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So, you've been doing cosplay since you were 11?
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Actually, I think I would have started doing it when I was around 10 years old,
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but 11 is when I went to my first anime convention and actually dressed up for it and stuff,
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And, yeah, my longest relationship was six months.
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So, I want to talk real briefly about OnlyFans here.
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About, like, the same amount of, like, over three years since 2019.
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I got in pretty early, and I really blew up during COVID because everyone was just indoors.
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No, but it'd be funny if I actually was saying, yes, I am a farmer, and I like to, I live
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But that word, we're not going to get censored.
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YouTube and Twitch, they move in mysterious ways.
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So, and when did you get started doing, I guess, in the traditional adult industry?
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So, for future reference, I should kind of, like, have, like, fake words for the words.
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I mean, I've been told that for Twitch, I guess.
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So, I'll just, like, think of, like, fun words.
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I have been mostly an independent baker, but I did, like, join.
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I became Vixen Contract at some time last year, but my contract actually just ended.
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But I'm looking into possibly doing, like, browsers possibly later this year.
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So, and when did you, you said you got started when?
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I've always been making corn on there, but I would say sometime last year, I signed onto
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Vixen just to get my head, get started doing some mainstream, just because the mainstream
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And I think it's something that I like doing sometimes, but inherently being an independent
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creator just pays way more and gives me more control to do exactly what I want to do.
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But that's like, I have multiple platforms that I now sell my content on, so that's
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But I do say this, and I also have been starting to be hesitant about how much I make, because
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sometimes, obviously, people hate it when they realize that a girl like me is going
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to make money selling my body when people, their whole lives say they should be punished
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But also, like, sex workers of all incomes should be respected no matter how much money
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Like, so they should be, you think that the more money you make, they're more disrespected?
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No, I'm saying, like, regardless of what my income is or what anyone's income is, they
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I feel like when I say I make a lot of money, people start thinking it's more or less valid,
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when in reality, regardless of how much money I make, I should still be respected as a human
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Do you think it's possible you'll ever do a million in a month?
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I feel like right now I'm in this, like, cool part of my life where I can just do passion
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projects and do things because, like, because it's fun.
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Like, I can go to this podcast and spend a day in Santa Barbara just because, oh, it'd be fun.
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And now I don't really have to do things I don't necessarily want to do, like, do a scene
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just because I feel like it would make me a lot of money.
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And now I'm just kind of, like, focusing on passion projects and, like, doing different
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But when I started, it was mostly through selling photos.
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And I actually joined Only Friends later in the year because I was going through college
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I started making corn, I'm going to say, in, like, 2021 is when I started making videos
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Like, for me, since I am a bit of a more niche creator, sometimes I'll have $5,000 a month.
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And it doesn't necessarily correlate directly to how much work I'm putting in sometimes.
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And there are a lot of other, you know, factors that I can't control, like the general economy
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But I make enough to be comfortable and to just do silly things and enjoy my life.
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Sydney, are you reconsidering your career direction?
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And I think wanting to do that, you have to be very cautious about how you put yourself
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Like, I mean, I've done this podcast, like, maybe five times now.
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And it's, like, I'm, like, I go on your podcast and, like, people see me.
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And that is, like, how I, like, put my name out there.
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But I feel like I do have to be cautious about how I put my name out there.
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But I've definitely thought about doing, like, as a thing, like, I wouldn't do, like, I wouldn't
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But, like, one of the girls that actually went to UCSB, and I, like, I watch her, and
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she's, like, blowing up because she's, like, a fitness influencer, Claire Stone.
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Claire Stone, she has an OnlyFans, and she posts, like, bikini stuff, gym stuff, and I'm
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And I was, like, if I could, like, kind of go off what she goes off of, I think that
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But I haven't quite, like, personally, I would not do corn.
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There are a lot of softcore creators that make a lot of money, too.
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Yeah, I would, I'd be interested in something like that, kind of, like, how she goes off
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Yeah, one of the biggest OnlyFans creators is a fitness person.
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And all they do is, because OnlyFans inherently is just a subscription waste website.
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There's celebrities that sell, like, that will, like, post, like, pictures of their children
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Well, but if you think about it, it's smart because, like, with OnlyFans, like, you, like,
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essentially are selling a contract that these photos cannot get leaked.
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So if you, like, buy, like, these photos can't get leaked and they can get, like, traced.
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I don't think that you should be posting your kids on a platform like that, period.
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But regardless, like, people of all different, like, I've done a cooking show on OnlyFans.
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And I've also, like, done fitness stuff with people on OnlyFans.
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So there is, like, a corn, like, correlation, but it's not necessarily a thing that, like,
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Also, I have met a lot of friends who are actresses and also do runway walking and musicians.
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I think it's just, like, whatever you're trying to do and seeing, like, what they're up to.
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And a lot of my friends were like, ooh, you might have to make a separate profile.
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I don't know why the TTS is not coming through and then why it's...
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Eric, in the OBS window, can you hide the Twitch alerts?
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Okay, I'm not sure what's going on with the TTS.
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But let me read it since TTS is not coming through.
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You have to read it like the way you think he would say it.
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Please don't do the corn route if you want a real man in your life,
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It's better to be respected by a high-value man
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than a ran-frew-only homies content creator that will be with cucks.
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Can they Venmo me this and say a message that way?
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I feel like it'd be a lot more conducive for her to hear your message.
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I think you might have to hide the Twitch alerts thing on each of the windows.
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When they say it, does it come with their voice?
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That's way funnier if they said it with their voice.
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You guys are going to serve as the TTS if it doesn't get fixed.
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Well, in any case, in any case, there's always some sort of technical issue going on.
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Actually, I'll come back to the OnlyFans thing in a little bit.
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So have you ever passed on a guy or rejected a guy only to later regret it?
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I mean, if I passed on him, then the vibe just wasn't right.
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Like, if I found out that later he was fucking Barack Obama or some shit, it really wouldn't matter.
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Because, like, if I decided I didn't want to fuck him, then we just weren't going to fuck anyways.
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Well, he's probably our sexiest president alive.
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So even if I, like, thought Donald Trump was, like, a cool guy, even, like, young pictures
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Young pictures of Joe Biden, though, pretty sexy.
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Would you have a Coke-fueled threesome with Hunter Biden?
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It's kind of been a white boy winter for me, so probably.
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But, by the way, there was an issue in the TTS should be fixed now, guys.
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When you say pass on a guy, do you mean sex-wise or relationship-wise or date-wise or all of the above?
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Well, just, I mean, have you ever passed on a guy or rejected him?
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So, I have passed on a guy, rejected a guy, and not regret it, but I do think that people
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are capable of change, and sometimes the new version of a person can, I can sometimes be
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like, okay, like, you seem like you're in a way better place right now.
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Like, okay, you know, maybe something can happen if they've developed as a person and, you know,
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kind of, I guess, change the traits that I may have non-vibed with or liked in the past.
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I feel like being, like, having a different, like, what you're saying as far as, like, becoming
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a different person as opposed to, like, people don't change.
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Like, I feel like deep down, like, it's very hard for a person to actually change.
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Like, you can become a different person and learn how to, like, you know, take better
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control of your negative traits or whatever you didn't like in that person, but I don't
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think that they actually, like, changed, which is part of the reason why I have no regrets.
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He's like, I've been retracted by many women and I'm sure they all really regretted it.
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This guy has, like, is so angry that I make money.
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I would rather subscribe and donate money on platforms to help men and women than to
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put a waste of a single cent of my millions, thanks, Beat and Cheeks, to ran through only
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homies, girls that do not respect their self-image for their future self and devalue themselves
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Bro, as long as you live in this illusion that you think you call the shots anywhere, you'll
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never wake up and that's totally fine because we are never going to meet.
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Like, it's like you can continue living in your, in your strange little world.
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By the way, his first name actually is Beaton and his last name actually is Cheeks.
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Well, his life is a, you know, it seems like that's his passion if that's his name.
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It's not like my name is Kazumi Squirts or something.
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You should actually legally change your name to Kazumi Squirts.
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So now it's just Kazumi because I'm kind of a creamer.
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So now I'm just Kazumi, like, like Beyonce or whatever.
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I think as long as I'm here, this guy will keep tipping the chat and hopefully we'll, you'll
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You know, and you should actually change it to a kind of a J-Lo thing.
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I do apologize, though, that the TTS is not working.
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I have no idea why, but we will, guys, anyone who donates 50 and up, we will just read it.
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Have you ever rejected a guy, turned a guy down, but later regretted it?
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I guess if I meet a new version of them, I'm just kind of like, okay, this new developed
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version of you is something that I can kind of get more behind.
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And I've also reached out to him about it and was kind of like open about it.
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So essentially it was someone that I was seeing before moving to college, but as soon as I
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met him, I met him coming out to tour the college, and as soon as I met him from the
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get-go, I was like, hey, like when I moved to college, like I don't want anything, like
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I want to be on my own, and we got like super, super close, but I stood by my word, and when
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I came to college, I like, I ended it, and we stopped talking for like over a year now,
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and I like thought about him recently, and I reached back out, and I was like, hey, I
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was like, I like called him one night, and I was like, hey, if I'm being honest, like
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I kind of like regret how I handled things, but at the same time, I stand by being single
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in college, and I stand by like having like my like, because like I did a lot of growing
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by myself, like for that year, so I like stand by it, but I did reach back out, and
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I was like, hey, like, because he was like an amazing guy, but I stand by and regret at
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Kind of, I don't know, I feel like my take on it is, I've had girls who previously turned
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me down, and sometimes like pretty ruthlessly reject me, and then they fucking see my shit
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And then they, but so like, there's this, I don't know, this, this is like an 80s song.
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So there's this song by Positive K, this rapper in like the 80s, 90s, and the song is called
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I Got a Man, and it's basically, it's kind of an interesting song where he's basically
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approaching a girl, but she's got a boyfriend, and he's like trying to still get at her, but
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one of the lyrics goes something along the lines of, so when I blow up, don't try to kick
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So I've had like, you know, throughout my journey online, I've had a lot of girls who
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like previously turn me down, and then like they'll see my shit and be like, hey, and
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I'm like, no whack, I don't like, you had your chance, if you didn't want me then, like
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For me, it was like high school people, like I was like a total loner, total loser in high
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school, like totally like did not talk to anyone at all, and got bullied a lot throughout
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my school years, and now I have like people from school being like, oh hey, you look really
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good, or hey, like I see you in the gym and shit, and I'm just like, well like now
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I'm not interested because you were like a jerk then, but with this guy, like we started
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off really well, we ended things, I ended things, and like it was on good terms, like
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we stopped talking completely, but I was like mature about it, but I was also mature
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like going back, and was like, hey, I don't know, I feel like if you handle things properly,
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it makes a difference, like ending it and reconciling it.
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Kazumi, it's also spelled with a K, A, Z-U-M-I, but you knew that already.
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I will be on the show in a few months, and you can go ahead and try your best and sit
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in the same room as me, because that will be the only time you may be with a real man
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That will turn you down, even if you try to pay me for a good time.
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Like, I'm going to see him and self-combust because he like watches Fresh and Fit or something.
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Like, I'm just going to like lose my bank account.
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It's like when like a crazy guy is like screaming at you at a 7-Eleven.
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I just go and buy my hot dog quietly and then go sit in my car and then I drive home to
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Here, while we're at it, um, I'm going to just read the rest of the soup chats here.
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I will read soup chats, $20 and up 50 and up normally triggers TTS text to speech, but
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So we're going to have Kazumi act as the, do you know, can you do like a British accent?
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We have, uh, actually we have Andrew Tate here.
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I'm flying the Asian girl to Romania for a conjugal visit.
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And, and first of all, all these guys are hella misogynistic and worm brains.
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I didn't think what he was saying was out of the norm for guys on Twitch.
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Aiden Ross is a, is he, are you, are you saying that about Aiden Ross or Tate?
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No, I went on a street, an e-date with, yeah, I saw that.
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I went on an e-date with Andrew Tate and, um, I didn't know who to fart he was, dude.
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I just knew that he was a silly little guy and e-date is a, it's like an online, it's
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It's like the bachelor, but online, you get paid for that.
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Like it's a podcast, except it's a date where it's like my camera and his camera.
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And we're just like on like a, basically a FaceTime date in front of like thousands of
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You could Google it, but it's, uh, I didn't know who he was.
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So I was saying things like, I want to have your baby and, um, I will impregnate myself.
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But, uh, I've been on one of those on an e-date.
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That was a reverse e-date where all of us were fighting for Andrew Tate's love.
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And like, this was before he was kind of like, obviously like our Hitler.
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You just, that's a terrible comparison, but it's just like, obviously this was before
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Like I just kind of thought he was just some dude.
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Um, and then I realized that he was Andrew Tate.
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I'm like saying it on a public forum right now.
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I'm sure he just allegedly is in the, in the chat right now.
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What if you met Andrew Tate in person and he was perfectly pleasant to you in person?
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Why would you think I would, I would be, I would suddenly switch up because he has money.
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If I also have money and also have people in my life that respect me, I don't have to
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Well, why would you be demeaning yourself by being respectful to him?
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I mean, I would be respectful, but I could still disagree with his concepts.
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So, yeah, I would absolutely say everything on camera.
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You did call him Hitler, though, I think, which is a bit of a stretch.
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What specifically, I guess, what specifically about what Andrew Tate says do you disagree with?
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Do you agree that women should have their body counts on their forehead?
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Okay, I've seen that clip, and we've actually reacted to it on this podcast.
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First of all, I think it is perfectly, we are perfectly able to talk about how men should
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focus on themselves and empower themselves to be kings and whatever the fuck without
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demeaning womanhood and, like, also putting all their value on their personal choices.
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Like, it's, those things can totally be separate.
00:34:36.020
Also, like, all men benefit from a system built by the patriarchy while we are women
00:34:41.580
and we are dealing, you know, while we, sorry, what did that say?
00:34:48.600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, while we, while we are simply in, in this structure, you know
00:34:54.460
Like, it's like, I don't, I also don't have to live by your rules, and if you feel like
00:34:59.360
you are trapped in a, in a place where women only want you for your money or what you offer,
00:35:03.340
then I just beg you to go the fuck outside and meet more women.
00:35:10.640
Like, what, do you care, really, how much a guy makes, as long as he's able to, like,
00:35:19.500
I would say most women care, to some degree, about a man's income.
00:35:22.880
Well, no, of course, we're not asking for, like, a fucking homeless guy, but I'm asking,
00:35:26.260
like, a guy who's just as stable as me is totally fine.
00:35:32.180
I don't need him to make $300,000 a month, but I need him to just be able to.
00:35:39.100
I need someone that is able to just, like, be safe.
00:35:47.920
Make his own money and then, like, take care of himself.
00:35:50.460
Like, I've dated my fair share of losers, majority.
00:35:56.100
Like, I've dated guys who, like, don't have cars, don't have driver's licenses.
00:35:58.920
But you're, like, in college, so this is a normal part.
00:36:01.000
No, but this was, well, I haven't really dated.
00:36:06.380
When you are, like, 25 plus, it's, like, men think, like, there's only two extremes.
00:36:13.240
And it's, like, I could just date a guy who has a normal career.
00:36:16.840
And as long as he has a passion and, like, is able to provide for himself, that's totally fine.
00:36:26.820
Okay, but there's certain realities to, and, I mean, you touched, you used a couple buzzwords,
00:36:31.940
so I will try to get back to those chiefly that, well, you asserted that there's a patriarchy.
00:36:38.460
So, you're a high earner, so you could probably be the sole breadwinner and support a family.
00:36:46.640
However, a man's income is definitely a calculus, I would say, in most women's assessment of who they're going to partner with.
00:36:54.820
Because assuming you want to have children, because if you want to have children, a man's income is a factor in the calculus and in the equation of,
00:37:03.720
will we be able to, you know, have kids, how big's the house, how big, you know, can we have cars?
00:37:10.040
Like, it's a factor, for sure, especially for women.
00:37:13.800
Does he need to be, like, a millionaire, or could he just be, like, a normal guy?
00:37:17.360
No, but if you want a certain lifestyle, for example, depending on how many kids you want,
00:37:22.060
do the kids have their own bedrooms, own bathrooms?
00:37:36.400
Like, I feel like I could also do that right now.
00:37:39.680
Even if I had kids, I could take them on vacations, and I just, when people want...
00:37:47.300
But even when I didn't make that amount of money, I had very fulfilling relationships,
00:37:50.800
because the relationships I had were based upon the fact that I just liked this person.
00:37:54.880
And they also liked me, and we spent time together and made an effort to appreciate one another.
00:38:00.860
Like, you know, depending on if you want to have a family, if you want to have kids, all
00:38:05.320
that stuff, you probably should date somebody who has the same goals as you and is actively
00:38:15.560
So, you know, when income comes into play, it's not really income for kids.
00:38:19.840
I want my partner to simply earn enough for both of us to just have fun whenever we want.
00:38:25.740
And we both know that, so we both, you know, we also work with what we have.
00:38:31.680
Because, for instance, I'm not making three million a year.
00:38:38.740
So I'm still making a good amount, but I am making an equal amount as to somebody who has,
00:38:43.380
like, a more, I guess, societally accepted job, like a normal career.
00:38:48.840
But I think when women look into men who are making a certain kind of money, it's not really
00:38:56.220
It's about the goals and how they're going to work to achieve those goals.
00:39:03.820
I think men like to pretend that dating is way harder than it actually is.
00:39:07.540
In reality, I think if we have common goals and common interests and common values, a lot
00:39:19.160
If you think it's based off of, like, trying to convince a girl to date you or trying to
00:39:26.460
have things that a woman, that you feel like women want, like having a six-figure income
00:39:30.820
or a giant fucking dick, then you're only going to attract people that exactly want that.
00:39:35.140
If I'm looking for someone to date me because of my personality and I want someone to support
00:39:39.240
me, then I'm going to attract people that want to date and support me and also have those
00:39:46.260
I mean, you can say that, but the reality is, is that...
00:39:50.380
The reality is I'm in a four-year relationship.
00:39:55.320
The reality is that there are many people in my situation who are in very happy relationships
00:39:59.240
and none of it is based off of really income or any of that besides, like, we just like
00:40:05.820
Well, so this kind of originally stemmed from our discussion of Tate, and it's not clear
00:40:10.720
to me that Tate's primary topic of interest is saying that women only care about money.
00:40:20.320
But to deny that women don't care about a man's money is dubious.
00:40:30.380
And I also feel like Tate creates a reality for these men to live in that make it seem
00:40:35.960
like women are constantly out to get them or manipulate them.
00:40:43.220
But did you see his new, like, foundation that he's, like, he's, like, going to donate?
00:40:56.220
That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about.
00:41:02.700
Well, I want to give you an opportunity to come in.
00:41:04.420
Do you think that women don't care about men's money at all?
00:41:14.000
You should just be able to have your own thing going on.
00:41:17.460
I think when men are afraid of women making a lot of money, it's because they feel like
00:41:22.600
I think it's fine that I have a job and then you have a job.
00:41:25.840
And you don't need to make one bajillion dollars for me to date you or, like, lose my integrity.
00:41:30.160
I'm just saying that I'm happy that you have your own goals and dreams and you're able
00:41:36.440
And we will be with each other because we want to be, not because we need to be.
00:41:40.660
Men are not afraid of women who make a lot of money because they're afraid that they're
00:41:49.560
It's not something that's particularly important to us how much money a woman makes.
00:41:57.260
You think it's not true men care deeply about how much money a woman makes?
00:42:02.700
I mean, everyone has their own opinions, obviously, but I definitely think that how much...
00:42:08.300
I think that there are men out there that care about what their significant other will
00:42:21.520
I'm not saying that all men don't care about that, but most men, it doesn't really matter.
00:42:25.960
Well, that's also what we're saying about women.
00:42:29.560
All women don't care about how much money a man may be making.
00:42:33.500
I'm not saying all women care about money, but women care about it more than men do.
00:42:37.720
I think that that's a reality that men make up for themselves, and I think that it is
00:42:51.020
Like, it's different because you guys are entrepreneurs.
00:42:55.040
You guys are making good money, so yeah, that's like not the forefront of your mind, but typically
00:42:59.540
for the average woman, they are going to look at their, you know, the persons that
00:43:05.400
they're dating, their occupation, what are they doing with their life, how much money
00:43:13.480
I've had to date guys that I've had to like help them with money, and it's fucking embarrassing.
00:43:25.020
I don't want to have to date a guy again that like doesn't have a car, doesn't even have
00:43:28.140
a driver's license, like doesn't do anything with his life.
00:43:30.860
Like, I've had a guy that was like super into me, but he had no ambition whatsoever, and
00:43:35.300
when he needed money, he would call his mom, and like never wanted to go out of the house,
00:43:43.020
I don't want to be with someone that doesn't have ambition like that.
00:43:45.840
That for me is just like, no, and it doesn't have to be about money, but like ambition,
00:43:54.320
You're not saying that the person has to make as much money as you, like, I know that you're
00:43:57.880
not saying that, but I just think that in general, when you think of the average woman,
00:44:02.540
I think it just depends on what circle you're in.
00:44:05.320
I feel like if you're around women who all make a good amount of money, they don't really
00:44:12.260
It's different because you guys are making such good money.
00:44:14.120
Generally, the more money a woman makes, the more she cares about how much her partner
00:44:20.820
But that might be your experience, but generally speaking...
00:44:28.800
You guys are willing to perhaps overlook that because...
00:44:40.800
A guy who makes $300,000 a month will date a girl who's a barista.
00:44:52.860
You said you've been dating a guy for four years.
00:44:55.600
Right now, he's just doing some social media management.
00:44:58.260
He helps create long-form content like this into short-form content.
00:45:09.820
Yeah, I think we like match what we can do and we try to like work it out.
00:45:13.300
So we kind of compromise sometimes, but it's not really a big deal.
00:45:17.560
We've been together for so long and he's seen me go through different stages of my career
00:45:21.680
from being a normal office girl to being where I am now.
00:45:25.180
So we don't really give a fuck about stuff like that.
00:45:36.560
A guy who's making three million dollars a year would probably just pay...
00:45:44.040
You know, he'll like go out of his way and like do his best to like make sure he pulls
00:45:54.240
I mean, I'll always offer like I could just pay whatever.
00:45:57.680
But obviously for him and his ego, he wants to maybe split stuff or whatever, but he
00:46:01.620
will make up for it in other ways by showing me he loves me through small things, which
00:46:07.020
When I was broke, I would show him how I loved him through like creative things like making
00:46:11.120
a picnic or like thinking of interesting date nights.
00:46:13.740
And I feel like that's what relationships are supposed to be about.
00:46:22.140
I do think that there are a lot of women out there who think a little bit more traditionally
00:46:29.800
But I think the point that we are trying to get across is like men think that everyone
00:46:39.180
And it's like, okay, well, you need to understand that if you feel like...
00:46:42.380
If you feel like the most important thing to you is money, then yeah, a woman is going
00:46:48.460
But if you put yourself out there as a person who's just trying to create a meaningful connection,
00:47:18.440
And then just put it on the ground once you guys are done.
00:47:20.360
So, it's interesting because, I mean, you out earn your boyfriend who you've been dating
00:47:43.900
A guy who's making $3 million and he's dating someone who makes less than $100K, he would
00:47:53.780
probably just pay for everything, vacations, all this stuff.
00:47:56.900
Because you mentioned earlier, you want someone that can match you, like in terms of lifestyle
00:48:01.460
wise, if you want to go on a vacation, you want someone who can like bring, you know,
00:48:07.560
And a guy who's making millions of dollars a year will just, if he's dating a girl who's
00:48:14.200
not making that much, he'll just pay for everything from the jump almost.
00:48:22.760
And I'm going to use fast food and dining as a way to describe it just because that's
00:48:28.460
So, let's say me and my partner agree that we don't want to eat out, right?
00:48:33.820
We don't want to eat out for the entire week and he's budgeting to fit that.
00:48:38.740
And let's say one night I have a really bad day and I want to go eat somewhere nice.
00:48:43.020
And I know that he doesn't necessarily have the budget for that.
00:48:46.100
I'm going to take him and I'm going to treat it because it's something I want to do with
00:48:55.420
That can be applied to literally anything in our relationship.
00:48:59.080
But that doesn't mean that like he's just not going to do anything for me.
00:49:03.100
Let's say, you know, on another, let's say I'm having a bad night.
00:49:06.060
I don't really have the budget to do what I want.
00:49:08.280
And he doesn't really have like a budget to take me out on a nice dinner.
00:49:11.240
He'll get me a pizza or like some chocolates from 7-Eleven or something cheap.
00:49:16.800
It's for me, it's not really about like, oh, can he match a vacation?
00:49:20.520
It's like, you know, showing me that he cares with what he has available.
00:49:31.140
She calling dudes who don't have money, lazy, bum, loser, embarrassing, etc.
00:49:36.700
Well, I'm going to respond and say I wouldn't want to date a unit who can't hit the gym
00:49:54.140
I mean, okay, you are totally entitled to just not date who you don't want to date.
00:50:07.600
When a woman makes more money, she's going to typically be looking to date someone who makes at least as much as she does or more.
00:50:14.380
So, for example, a female attorney, like, just think about it.
00:50:19.380
A girl, a female attorney, a female doctor, a female surgeon, like, it's almost self-evident.
00:50:26.560
She's not going to go date a guy who works at McDonald's.
00:50:32.880
Because he's not even in her, like, energy space.
00:50:39.960
A high-achieving attorney, doctor, surgeon, he'll gladly date.
00:50:44.700
Like, if she's attractive, he'll date a girl who works at McDonald's, at Chick-fil-A, a barista.
00:50:52.440
Because it definitely matters, like, the intellectual conversations that you have when you're at such a high.
00:50:57.340
You might have those intellectual conversations regardless of job, though.
00:51:03.440
Like, your career, I feel like, regardless of your career path.
00:51:06.700
I've met some fucking annoying pharmacists and nurses, and I've dated pharmacists and nurses, doctors.
00:51:12.820
Like, they're not any more pleasant to talk to than, like, just a 19, 21-year-old girl.
00:51:19.580
I feel like it's more about, like, a personality match, whereas, like, a career path.
00:51:24.640
Like, I live next to, right now, I live next to, like, one of the frat houses, and it's, like, one of the, like, doctor frat houses.
00:51:31.520
It sounds like a hot place to live next to them.
00:51:36.940
But some of these boys, if you see this, I'm sorry, can be freaking annoying as hell.
00:51:49.300
Do you think that people who, like, you can't have it all.
00:51:54.840
I feel like it's very hard to find somebody who, like, has it all.
00:52:03.700
But, like, also, like, you're either super-duper smart in, like, books and stuff.
00:52:08.200
And you've put in a lot of time and energy and effort into that.
00:52:12.020
Or you're, like, street smart and aware of yourself in other ways.
00:52:29.580
They think, like, there's going to be a point where I just have a mental breakdown or something.
00:52:35.780
I'm just like, it's amazing how OF girls have the energy to argue and debate the most obvious troops.
00:52:40.200
Yet, they refuse to use that energy to find a real job.
00:52:43.940
Your career has an expiration date, whether you like it or not.
00:52:50.680
Like, you think, like, bro here is going to podcast until he's 80,000 years old?
00:52:54.840
No, you're going to probably get your bag and leave.
00:53:23.240
And they freeze you with the anticipation that in the future, science and technology will
00:53:28.620
advance to the point where they can unfreeze you and basically bring you back to life.
00:53:35.620
There'll be like a 30-year hiatus where you're frozen in time and then you'll come back and
00:53:49.240
Let's, just before I have you come in, can you TTS this, Kazumi?
00:53:57.720
I'm a doctor and I can tell you personally that my female colleagues struggle to find
00:54:04.000
My male colleagues don't have much of an issue with that because we can date way down easily.
00:54:09.260
It's like, is the point here the fact that we should help you guys not date down or are
00:54:16.600
Men are perfectly content dating down, so to speak.
00:54:23.320
You also look for things differently in a relationship than women do.
00:54:25.520
Yeah, if you're looking for a hot, horny honey, I mean, that's your right.
00:54:28.940
And that, if that hot, horny honey is looking for an $800 credit score, 800 credit score,
00:54:34.340
Then like, you know, this is a perfectly transactional relationship and you guys are happy to go off
00:54:40.480
So as a guy, his status increases, his money increases, his pool of potential partners
00:54:47.820
Whereas as a woman's status increases, the more money she makes, actually her pool of potential
00:54:54.800
Not necessarily because men won't date her, but because she's now looking, okay, I make
00:55:02.460
I want someone that I don't, I don't want to be having to like carry a guy.
00:55:07.780
Most, most women are going to have that point of view.
00:55:10.320
Not all women, but a lot of women are, you know, they're going to want to date someone
00:55:15.460
It would take a certain kind of man to like, not have to like put his ego aside and be
00:55:27.360
Some men do have an ego about that, but the issue while it is primarily on the women's
00:55:35.440
The women would not want to date a guy who doesn't match them.
00:55:39.360
I think that has a lot more to do with like the emotional maturity than anything else,
00:55:45.720
in my opinion, because, you know, there have been a lot of reports and studies done about
00:55:51.240
how as men age, their dating pool of ages that they look at don't generally grow with
00:55:57.240
There are still men in their forties looking at girls in their twenties and, you know,
00:56:03.400
Whereas with women, as we age, we look for somebody more within our age range.
00:56:08.780
And most of the time that I will agree, most of the time that does mean financial security
00:56:14.480
as well as emotional maturity, but that's not like all it is.
00:56:20.880
Like if you go back to the caveman days, women were looking for men that could provide
00:56:25.840
And so how does a man provide nowadays through financial resources?
00:56:31.640
But why does he only have to provide through financial resources?
00:56:37.360
I feel like, yeah, I feel like she just wants to be, she just wants to be loved.
00:56:46.300
And she also wants a guy who's six feet, washboard, all this, six feet.
00:56:52.020
See, but when you're five feet, it doesn't matter.
00:56:55.220
But what about the five, four guy that, that would be perfectly capable of loving you?
00:57:01.840
Like he wouldn't even have, I'm at the point in my life where like, I'm going to get what
00:57:06.660
I want in a person because I've like been through the ringer as far as relationships
00:57:11.520
I know exactly what I want and I'm not going to settle for anything less than.
00:57:17.560
What if he can give you everything that you want, but you just don't have the height?
00:57:20.500
Because that's a physical aspect that he can't control versus where he can like give you
00:57:28.220
I've been on a date with a guy that was shorter than me.
00:57:33.380
As a tall girl, I just really love having short friends and carrying them around everywhere.
00:57:48.000
They at least have to be like my height or like an inch tall.
00:58:01.900
I can't help it that I'm like, I'm, I don't know.
00:58:05.920
So I do want to touch on what you said, because you said, you know, you've been through the
00:58:14.800
So I, and I want to go around the table on this for all of you.
00:58:21.800
So if a guy doesn't meet all of your preferences or standards, let's say he met only 80% of
00:58:27.660
your standards and he was lacking in, in some area that you want, would you be willing
00:58:34.300
to settle for less, for less than perfect in a partner?
00:58:39.620
I don't think that there's such a thing as a perfect partner.
00:58:44.020
Relationships are hard and you kind of just have to.
00:58:47.860
Would you be willing to settle for less, say 80% of a guy who meets 80% of your standards?
00:58:53.140
If he checks off every single other box and he's five, six.
00:59:00.220
It's like, you wouldn't, you just, you wouldn't, you wouldn't be, you wouldn't be attracted to
00:59:16.460
So I threw a birthday party this weekend and it was really funny because since I do porn
00:59:21.640
and I also, I'm just a social person that's an LA native, I invited everyone ever.
00:59:27.120
So it was obviously a lot of people I've had sex with from college, from my last job, from
00:59:37.460
I was like, but like, you know, it's just like people throughout my life, like from like
00:59:41.960
when I was like 18, from high school, from my, to now, like now that I'm a porn star.
00:59:45.920
And I felt that something really eclectic that someone noticed was that none of them
00:59:52.260
It was just the, the common denominator was they were open-minded, they were usually really
00:59:57.460
funny, but physically and even, and with their jobs, it was extremely sporadic and eclectic.
01:00:04.260
Like there were people who were short, there were people who were tall, there were people
01:00:07.500
who were fat, there were people that were buff, but the common denominator was that we had
01:00:11.580
a really cool connection and it was cool to see us all come to it together.
01:00:15.040
Granted, I'm also in an open relationship, so it's not weird for me to bring all the
01:00:21.540
How many, wait, so how many people in that room were there that you had?
01:00:25.600
Well, okay, it's not like I fucked everyone in the room.
01:00:27.680
Can I ask, as a, as a porn star, like, do you keep track of your like body count now?
01:00:33.720
No, I'm also an adult woman, so I don't keep track of my body count.
01:00:36.960
But if I had to, it's probably one bajillion, you know, so whether you can respect me or
01:00:43.080
I think, I don't think a body count matters at all.
01:00:50.420
Let's just say it's one million and if people don't respect me over it, they wouldn't have
01:00:55.700
So, also it's just tired because every single podcast, everyone has to ask me about my body
01:01:16.740
So, just, I want you to continue on your point here.
01:01:19.860
But something that always interests me is the kind of, and I think usually the way I
01:01:24.820
frame this is like your looks equivalent, but since you have a brother.
01:02:03.320
Like, I do not know how anyone sucks your dick.
01:02:43.640
Jeez, we're kind of going all over the place here.
01:02:51.640
So, what are your bare minimum preferences and standards for a guy?
01:03:01.240
Okay, if we're going to actually talk about the actual bare minimum.
01:03:05.340
He just has to be, first of all, chill with that.
01:03:07.360
Like, it's not like a groundbreaking concept to him, like what my occupation is.
01:03:13.920
I just don't feel like I have to explain that anymore.
01:03:19.820
And I feel like the funniness is why, like, all the guys I've had sex with, like, are
01:03:26.160
Because it's just like, if you're fucking funny and you're like a woke guy, then we're
01:03:32.120
Seems like a silly little thing to do this afternoon.
01:03:43.480
I don't like guys who think they're too cool to say, like, hey, you're really pretty,
01:03:48.440
Like, I don't need you to be aggressive, but I want it to be really clear, like, hey, you
01:03:52.880
If I feel like I have to, like, really break my back to see, like, hey, do you, like,
01:04:01.280
I want to make sure that you have a healed perspective on women and sex, and you, like,
01:04:06.300
are comfortable expressing, like, hey, I'm attracted to you, and I think we should do
01:04:24.020
It's, like, hard for me to even think about that because I thought that I found the person
01:04:28.340
that I was going to, like, live the rest of my life with, and then it ended up not being
01:04:33.260
the case, and so right now I'm actually just really focused on myself, and I can't even
01:04:38.740
think about, like, dating somebody right now, but if I had to, like, take a step back
01:04:44.600
and remove myself from that whole situation, and I got to choose, okay, this is exactly
01:04:49.600
the type of person that I want to, like, manifest into my future, then definitely...
01:04:58.620
I'm 5'5", so I would really appreciate it if I could wear heels around them.
01:05:18.740
I don't know if that's an offensive term anymore.
01:05:22.680
I thought dwarf was the legal term, or not legal.
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I think it started, like, midget was, like, the previous one, which is now inappropriate.
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I think, like, little person is appropriate enough.
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And then in five years, little person will be offensive, and then they've got to change
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Well, there are people and they're little, so...
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They deem a word bad, and then they give it a new word, and then that word becomes bad,
01:06:02.780
Moist is still in its, like, bad character art.
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I know, like, a lot of little people's strippers.
01:06:30.440
First of all, height does not affect dick size.
01:06:40.420
He had a footer, but it wasn't actually a footer.
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It was just, like, he was short, so it looked big.
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Because sometimes when you get a really tall guy, their, like, dick looks smaller because
01:06:53.720
Like, if you had a six-incher, it probably looks like it's three inches because you're
01:06:58.880
But what if you were, like, a little person, your dick probably looks like it's eight
01:07:09.300
Here, while we're at it, let's talk about labia.
01:07:17.480
It's not, like, a roast beef situation, but it's, like...
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But that's what it would look like if it was, like, super outie, and I feel like...
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...ambitious, like, has something that they're working towards or has already, like, mastered
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I haven't even thought about that, to be completely honest.
01:08:25.940
What's the ideal age of a guy you'd be looking to marry?
01:08:58.720
By when would you like to be married and have kids by?
01:09:02.920
In a perfect world, I want to start having kids, like, no later than 35.
01:09:08.000
That's getting into high-risk pregnancy territory, but okay, you're 30, so that gives you five
01:09:13.500
But I've also got a lot to do, and I also want to, like, actually be with that person, be
01:09:17.240
able to enjoy that person, like, just us, then to just, like, get married, have kids,
01:09:26.220
How much of the family income do you personally want to contribute?
01:09:35.080
I think that it would be nice to have my future husband be able to take care of all of the,
01:09:42.880
like, not-so-fun stuff, and then with my income, we do, like, family vacations and
01:10:00.680
Okay, so how much of the family income do you personally want to contribute?
01:10:13.120
Yeah, you're going to have to talk to her after the show so you can make $3 million a
01:10:30.300
So, how much of the family income do you want to personally contribute?
01:10:36.660
Like, why does it have to be, like, a set thing?
01:10:41.560
I never want to have to rely on a man for anything.
01:10:43.780
Like, I want to be able to take care of myself and then say something terrible was to
01:10:47.180
happen because that's just where my mind goes because...
01:10:57.220
But, like, say if that did happen or he cheated or, like, we just fell out of love that we could
01:11:02.080
go our separate ways and I would still be 100% okay not only supporting myself but also
01:11:07.620
Do you think falling out of love is a good reason to break up a family?
01:11:14.540
I think here's the delusion when it comes to family.
01:11:17.900
Like, the way it used to work is love was not really a factor when it came to having a family
01:11:24.700
If you loved each other, great, but it was a partnership.
01:11:29.420
You said that you want to be independent, but you also just said that you want...
01:11:34.620
You'd prefer the guy to take care of the important things and you're...
01:11:38.700
What you would contribute would be towards, like, the vacations and the fun stuff.
01:11:43.060
So, I'm just trying to arrive at an answer here.
01:11:44.500
I'm just trying to give you, like, well, example, I'm giving you my version of the answer that
01:11:49.180
So, it's, like, it's not, like, a certain percentage.
01:11:55.800
If he made enough to, like, take care of everything and then was, like, don't worry.
01:12:02.520
Like, I want to be the provider and, like, support you.
01:12:05.220
Like, I want your money to be your money and, like, you be able to take care of, like,
01:12:13.820
Not necessarily that I would let that happen, but that would be cool.
01:12:17.620
So, our money is our money, but my money is my money.
01:12:29.500
So, you have an Etsy shop and you sell trinkets and you make $10,000 a year.
01:12:37.020
So, I guess my question is, you said you want three kids.
01:12:47.840
It's, like, do you need her social security number, too?
01:12:49.880
No, but, okay, here's the reason I'm asking is because.
01:12:54.180
No, but if you want three children, you're going to have to factor in, okay, well, what's the house size?
01:13:02.000
So, do you have a sense of how big of a house you'd like to live in?
01:13:10.340
Well, if I end up having three kids, I don't know about the whole stay in California thing.
01:13:14.920
You want at least one bedroom for you and your husband, correct?
01:13:29.060
So, an office would sort of count as another bedroom.
01:13:46.380
I feel like, at my age right now, I have to like.
01:13:51.480
It's really, it's really messes with your head when you turn 30 because you, society puts
01:13:57.800
this like pressure on you to like be, I don't, to like be a certain way or to be at a certain
01:14:05.880
Well, are you talking about in regards to the development of a relationship and having
01:14:12.000
Well, I mean, there is a certain biological reality that women have to face.
01:14:16.700
And there's a limited period of time in which women can get pregnant.
01:14:21.340
So, women do have a pressure that doesn't exist, that exists for them, that doesn't exist for
01:14:27.620
And I mean, there's certainly scientific interventions.
01:14:30.260
Like, how can I give you all these answers when like, I don't know what my future is going
01:14:35.520
So, I mean, and you said you would like to start having children by the time you're 35.
01:14:39.080
So, there is some degree of urgency with which you need to get this figured out.
01:14:44.760
So, I'm saying if it doesn't happen, then like, I'm not going to be.
01:14:52.480
Like, I'm also super cool with being this, like, the cool, rich aunt.
01:14:56.520
I mean, me personally, I'm not sure if I'm not set on having kids myself.
01:15:04.600
So, you said you want to master a guest, an office, and then three, you're going to have
01:15:10.620
And it sounded like you want a bedroom for each of the kids.
01:15:12.440
Two kids, bathrooms, maybe four, three, four bathrooms.
01:15:29.100
So, that's probably going to run you at least a million dollars.
01:15:32.940
I mean, it depends what part of California, but you're probably looking at a two million
01:15:38.420
Okay, so, car wise, do you want regular car, luxury?
01:15:44.880
Well, I drive a Benz right now, and I'm convinced that I can't go back.
01:15:55.820
Because I knew I would want, like, a new one in three.
01:15:58.200
Okay, so, do you want to go on vacations, regular international vacations?
01:16:05.920
I don't necessarily, like, I'm not obsessed with it.
01:16:09.920
But maybe once or twice a year go on vacation with the kids?
01:16:18.020
The idea of me having kids right now in this moment of my life makes me, like, it's a big
01:16:26.920
Well, you seem pretty adamant about wanting three kids.
01:16:30.140
Well, that's kind of, it's, like, kind of, like, the go hard or go home type of mentality
01:16:34.660
It's either, like, we're going to do this and, like, have a family and create, like,
01:16:38.760
I picture, like, you know, like, team sports and them fighting, but, like, also loving each
01:16:45.740
other and, like, growing up and having that, like, bond.
01:16:51.920
So, like, I always was jealous a little bit of people who had siblings.
01:16:56.900
So, like, I've always wanted, like, it's either zero or...
01:17:03.480
So, given kind of all the information that you've provided, what would your husband,
01:17:09.560
what would you like your husband's income to be?
01:17:23.260
Okay, but if you want these things, your husband's income needs to be a certain...
01:17:26.920
But what if he's, like, what if he's an entrepreneur and his income fluctuates and then, like, you
01:17:32.340
you know, sometimes it's six figures a month and sometimes it's more or less...
01:17:45.620
What would your average be off of, based off of everything that I said?
01:17:49.680
I mean, I'm not going to tell you the kind of husband that you ought to marry, but...
01:17:58.780
But it doesn't seem like those are, like, things set in stone that she's committed to.
01:18:02.740
If she doesn't, if it doesn't happen, it's, like, doesn't seem like it's a big deal breaker
01:18:12.240
Yeah, that's, like, you're asking me, like, in a perfect world.
01:18:24.480
And I asked you, tell me about, you know, the house size, bedrooms, bathrooms.
01:18:27.960
Okay, it's implied you definitely meant, like, in a perfect world, like, what would you like?
01:18:42.080
Okay, so if someone were to ask me, idealistically, Brian, what do you want?
01:18:59.740
I didn't say realistically, but I also did not say idealistically.
01:19:03.780
So I think you ought to assume, you ought to assume that I'm, I...
01:19:08.240
You lean more towards realistically with the questions I'm asking.
01:19:11.940
I don't, no, if you say, if you don't say realistically, I'm totally going to give you answers from, like, my perfect ideal world.
01:19:18.800
No, but if someone asked me, if someone asked me, Brian, what kind of girl do you want or what kind of relationship situation do you want?
01:19:25.640
I wouldn't give the ideal of, I want 70 virgins.
01:19:30.140
I mean, I'm sure you would give us, like, the best possible girl.
01:19:33.180
You know, you'd be like, I would like her to have double D cups or something.
01:19:40.580
It's like, you know, it's like, of course you're going to...
01:19:43.920
But it's like, I feel like those are things that would be cool if they happened, but if they didn't, I think, like, there's this assumption that just because someone is older, there's this ticking time clock of either, is your purpose going to be fulfilled because you have a family or is it not?
01:19:59.040
And it's like, as you grow older, you just realize it's not that big of a deal to hit these milestones that the world puts on you.
01:20:05.840
It's like, if she has these three kids and this one million dollar husband, then it's fine.
01:20:10.460
But if not, it's okay and, you know, life moves on.
01:20:14.660
Well, I mean, it's not a societal pressure necessarily.
01:20:27.040
It's the comments are about societally, she's sturdy and this and that.
01:20:30.580
Well, the comments are not really part of the conversation we're having.
01:20:32.760
But those are part of society because we're performing on a stage right now.
01:20:37.120
Yes, there is a societal, I suppose, some degree of societal expectation, but there's a biological reality that you have a limit in terms of when you can get pregnant and bring that child to term.
01:20:51.600
I personally am looking to freeze my eggs and then have surrogates and then start a family when I'm like 40.
01:21:25.720
But so the biological reality holds for most women that if they want to have kids, they need to do it by a certain age.
01:21:34.980
I think the biological reality is if it doesn't work out of a person, then I'm just not going to have kids with them.
01:21:41.220
Even if it's too late for me and I can't afford a surrogate, then I'm just not going to have kids with them.
01:21:45.860
Well, that certainly would be the biological reality if you're 40 or 45.
01:21:49.920
Then it is the reality you're not going to be able to have kids, most likely.
01:21:53.660
I'm not really sure with what you're trying to say.
01:21:55.080
I'm just trying to say that for a lot of women, it's not necessarily like a mandatory part of their lives to start a family anymore.
01:22:02.900
It's cool if we do, but it's not really a goal I aim for to become a milestone in my life.
01:22:08.880
Would you agree, though, that generally speaking, most women want to have a family, want to have kids?
01:22:16.760
I don't know if most women right now want to have a family.
01:22:19.660
I think you want me to say that, but I don't think a lot of women, especially now that they have their own jobs and are able to do more things with their lives and also have kids at a later age, a lot of women don't really want kids right now.
01:22:33.180
I don't think, do you, are you sure you want kids right now?
01:22:42.220
Yeah, but it's not like you're like go gung-ho about like the next one I meet must carry my child.
01:22:50.000
We're not talking about the gung-ho-ness with which you're trying to find someone to have kids with, although perhaps as you start.
01:22:57.380
Well, I think, honestly, you should actually start quite young trying to find a long-term partner.
01:23:09.720
Well, you're, you're free to do whatever you want, but me personally, I, I'm not a, I'm not really.
01:23:18.900
I don't think hookup culture is good for society.
01:23:20.920
Can I ask the last time you hooked up with somebody?
01:23:25.460
Sydney, you, you fucking like derailed the conversation.
01:23:30.760
The conversation has been derailed so far and I've been wanting to talk about something for so long.
01:23:35.820
Here, we need, we, we do need to do the TTS though.
01:23:44.340
I apologize, but we will treat, we'll do a spoken TTS.
01:23:50.440
Also, Dank Naked, I speed read this, doesn't go outside.
01:23:54.960
But do you really think a man that has enough money to support a family with three kids would be looking for a 30 year old or someone that is younger and more fertile?
01:24:09.400
He is not a guy coming into a single mom with three kids.
01:24:13.360
I think we're talking about her starting a family.
01:24:35.660
If someone called me kind of hot, I would shoot myself in the face.
01:25:16.860
But if you pull your pants down and your dick is lame.
01:25:21.220
It's not like I'm going to be like this shit is too small.
01:25:33.520
Like if you have like some insecurities about your dick size and you feel like women leave
01:26:01.980
I think I've been with guys who've had average size dicks or smaller.
01:26:17.040
Because when I was talking about all that shit, you weren't listening at all.
01:26:28.800
When you were talking about the pregnancy thing, you were not listening.
01:26:40.240
You want to make the exception into the rule, but I was speaking in generalities.
01:26:51.380
First of all, I've been with average size dicks.
01:26:57.980
The common feature that will make me want to come back is, am I going to come?
01:27:05.900
If your dick is big and you can't make me come, then I'm not going to come back.
01:27:14.120
But it is talking to a deaf choir because you guys don't care how many times we say, we talk about dick size.
01:27:29.800
If a guy has a micropenis, Sydney, is that going to be an issue for you?
01:27:41.160
Would you pursue a long, would you, would you pursue a long-term relationship with a guy who has a micropenis?
01:27:46.180
If everything else is on point, we can work with it.
01:27:49.760
Oh, so he has to make up for, so he has to make up for his detriment.
01:27:54.540
It has to be a good sexual, it has to be a good physical relationship as well as an emotional relationship.
01:28:01.160
I will say, like, I've been in the same situation as you and like probably like one of the best, but yeah, no, I get it.
01:28:07.520
Okay, if I can acknowledge that some women don't care about dick size, can you acknowledge that some women do?
01:28:20.780
I am talking, unless I'm specifically saying all people, I'm talking about me.
01:28:26.540
But, so, you're almost saying that it's unreasonable for men to think that it is something that some women, perhaps most women, do care about to some degree.
01:28:40.420
I think what it is is that like, okay, for instance, how we just had this conversation, how when she says she speaks, she speaks as an individual.
01:28:47.380
And when you speak, you speak for the general population, right?
01:28:51.320
What the message that she's trying to say, and honestly, the message that I agree with is that men need to stop living in this world of absolute.
01:28:59.120
Not every woman is going to care about how big it is in your pants, bro.
01:29:03.660
Like, sure, you might run into some girls who are like, oh, you know what?
01:29:09.520
But there is also truth that some women won't care.
01:29:14.280
Like, if you, if you as a man carry yourself in a way in this world of absolutes, like every woman is going to care about this, every woman is going to care about that, then you are going to shrink the world that you live in and the ability to make connections because you are creating that reality for yourself.
01:29:30.600
And you need to live with the fact that there are going to be people who disagree with you and there are going to be people who agree with you.
01:29:36.200
Just like there are going to be girls who care about how big it is
01:29:40.320
There are going to be girls who care about how much money you make.
01:29:50.440
I mean, I definitely agree with everything that she just said.
01:29:54.340
Okay, so if a guy's got like a two-incher, it's all good?
01:30:17.000
But there's, I'm sure, guys who have huge penises that.
01:30:26.500
That don't know what they're doing, just like they were just saying.
01:30:31.740
Also, if you would allow me, I would love to bring it back to the point,
01:30:35.940
of, I've been wanting to talk about this for so long.
01:30:42.860
Yeah, you never got to me and Sydney about if we would settle with a man who has,
01:30:47.000
who doesn't have all the like super desirable features and like what our standards are.
01:30:55.700
As a 5'8 woman, I will say for the majority of my life, I have always looked to men who
01:31:05.020
But lately, and especially at this party, there was this guy there who was shorter than
01:31:11.580
I don't know how much shorter, but I could make like, I had to look down a little bit.
01:31:16.320
I could like see the top of his head, but he was funny.
01:31:20.640
I thought he was really cute and I was ready to change his life in the bathroom, bro.
01:31:28.620
Like, and here's the thing, if I was just walking like in the middle of the street and
01:31:35.680
I probably would have just been like, okay, you know, it's just another guy, whatever.
01:31:38.860
But at this event where I am, you know, on a mission to connect with people, not necessarily
01:31:44.000
sexually, but just like make connections with people.
01:31:50.640
I thought he was really cute and I have not been able to stop thinking about him.
01:32:05.800
But what I'm saying is that that is not what I would usually look for.
01:32:10.520
So although he wasn't six foot, he had so many other desirable qualities to me, which was
01:32:37.200
In the conversation that we had, he wasn't like exceptionally funny.
01:32:48.920
So, and you said you're 21 and throughout the whole course of your life, you're 5'8".
01:32:53.860
You've never found other short guys attractive.
01:32:58.640
So this is a second short guy I found attractive.
01:33:02.160
I actually did have a thing with another short guy last year.
01:33:09.020
So my question is, you said, and you're 21, the second short guy you found attractive.
01:33:31.540
I'm into the very non-conventionally attractive guy.
01:33:42.120
You've probably seen thousands of men who you think are attractive.
01:33:45.080
Just because they're tall doesn't make them sexy.
01:33:46.720
No, I'm not saying that all tall men are attractive.
01:33:49.000
But would you say the vast majority of men who you have deemed to be attractive also happen to have been tall?
01:34:00.980
I haven't really been in too many situations where short guys have the confidence to talk to me.
01:34:08.220
If more short guys came up to me, talked to me, and like weren't afraid, like weren't intimidated by my height, I probably would have also found them attractive.
01:34:19.500
I mean, look, some short guys do have some limiting beliefs when it comes to that.
01:34:26.700
A lot of short guys will shoot their shot and the girls like...
01:34:40.460
Hopefully you can find some better, more open-minded, accepting woman in your life.
01:34:53.200
That's the thing, though, is like if they're short, then they have to like work extra hard to make up for it.
01:35:06.800
I have to have a really good personality for most of these guys.
01:35:10.780
If I'm fat and dull, they're like, what are you even doing?
01:35:17.940
And also, I have always been like the nerdy girl.
01:35:20.740
I've always been into anime, into video games and stuff like that.
01:35:23.920
And that is a personality trait that was normally looked down upon until like COVID in recent years.
01:35:30.460
Now it's like kind of cool to be like a nerd and into anime and stuff like that.
01:35:38.840
You think dudes were like curving chicks because they were into anime 10 years ago?
01:35:47.120
Well, I'm talking about my personal experience, right?
01:35:50.100
And a lot of men were like, oh, you're into like this weird shit.
01:35:54.700
So you turned like 18 or 19 like during the pandemic when you presumably would have more
01:36:13.100
It's not serious dating, but you still develop like romantic relationships with people in
01:36:22.260
We are talking about dating specifically, but I haven't had a lot of people be like, you're
01:36:36.840
Um, um, funny is just like a big one for me, honestly, like if a guy is like funny
01:36:43.520
and he's like, like height doesn't matter for me at all, but like a gym guy for sure.
01:36:48.540
Or like a guy that's like, like I go to the gym daily.
01:36:51.500
So if a guy can go to the gym with me or like it, or like finds that motivation to like
01:37:01.360
Sorry that we're a bit late on the super chats here.
01:37:03.480
We, uh, been having quite a lively conversation.
01:37:05.640
Guys, get your super chats in TTS is, uh, kind of funky.
01:37:12.220
But, uh, by the way, Derek, man, I don't know if you're still in the chat, but I see you
01:37:15.400
thank you for all the support, the past, uh, streams.
01:37:23.860
Ladies, do you believe a man will take you seriously?
01:37:26.460
Um, no, if you are an OF creator, corn star, a single mom or loud and obnoxious, do you think
01:37:31.220
your chances increase or decrease when you're a combination of any?
01:37:34.880
And for Kazumi went to the bathroom, maybe we'll catch her when she comes back.
01:37:38.900
Um, I suppose this is more directed towards, well, there's the other components, single
01:37:45.940
Uh, so do you think that because you are an OnlyFans creator and you do corn that, that
01:38:03.120
And the reality is that my career and my line of work is still something that is shamed by
01:38:11.100
Uh, and a lot of people have a lot of strong feelings about it, but I am thankful that most
01:38:17.080
of the people that are in my life don't really think that it's something that should be shameful.
01:38:21.560
And I work towards destigmatizing it every day in my civilian relationships because it
01:38:31.840
And truthfully, if somebody like, even if, just, just if anyone else gets up to go to
01:38:37.760
Um, but also like, even if I wasn't a Shrex worker, I wouldn't want to date, if I wasn't
01:38:44.440
a Shrex worker, I wouldn't want to date somebody who disrespects Shrex worker because I believe
01:38:49.420
that as a human, everyone that everyone should be respected the same, no matter your career
01:38:53.940
or what, what if they don't disrespect sex workers?
01:39:02.140
And if, if me doing this kind of work bothers you, then it wasn't going to work out anyways.
01:39:09.240
So Kazumi, the question is, uh, do you believe that a man will take you seriously long-term
01:39:19.920
But do you think it potentially limits your pool to some degree?
01:39:25.260
You don't think, well, I mean, there, there must, there's certainly some men out there
01:39:29.640
I mean, those people weren't people I would have dated.
01:39:38.680
Are there, do you think there are men out there that would not want to date you?
01:39:41.700
I'm sure there's people that wouldn't want to date me, but I don't.
01:39:47.280
But you said that, I'm trying to remember the first part of what you said in response
01:39:51.820
You said that it shouldn't be an issue for people.
01:39:58.700
Like, so you, and I think that just has to do with the general stigma, like the stigma
01:40:06.100
And I think that when it becomes more de-stigmatized and people can just treat people like treat,
01:40:13.000
like treat people like people, no matter their career, that will also go down.
01:40:19.760
So do you, although you acknowledge that it is some men's preferences to not want to
01:40:26.140
date a girl who's a sex worker or who does OnlyFans, you object, do you object to that
01:40:33.500
I don't object to that preference, but I know that a lot of the men who are like, oh, like
01:40:41.340
They say it as like almost in a, like in a shaming way.
01:40:44.740
It's like, wow, how dare you go into that line of work?
01:40:47.540
Like that is so shameful, like blah, blah, blah.
01:40:49.760
So if it's more so just like, you know, like I personally just wouldn't want to date somebody
01:40:54.980
But the truth is, is that these men demonize me.
01:40:59.400
These men demonize women who work in this field.
01:41:05.280
I mean, also everyone's entitled to their own preferences.
01:41:14.040
I probably wouldn't date someone who vaped, but that's like a dumb hill I'll die on.
01:41:21.140
Ask these lovely ladies what their Valentine's Day plans are.
01:41:45.580
So I, me and my partner's relationship is also on the 17th.
01:41:50.800
So we actually do like a little, like a three day celebration or 14, 15, 16.
01:41:58.300
I think I might just be picking up a, like working or just the gym.
01:42:02.740
Well, I like, we're doing a show on Valentine's Day.
01:42:04.720
If I go to the gym and the guys are there are single.
01:42:08.620
These women want men to check off her boxes and carry her baggage at the same time.
01:42:24.560
I was like, I thought it was like a metaphysical, metaphorical asteroid.
01:42:29.340
The TTS is broken, but Kazumi is acting as our, uh, impromptu.
01:42:36.520
Yes, okay, um, so we have, uh, we did that one.
01:42:55.020
Yeah, he's, uh, yeah, no, he's fucking, he's roasting me.
01:43:04.360
Brian, you better not give these Renfrews any of my donations.
01:43:09.360
Dude, I will literally take it from you somehow.
01:43:15.600
Just except not all men want you sitting on their face.
01:43:22.460
Shout out to you two innocent women and the choices you've made.
01:43:28.460
As a man from the 805, you guys got an awesome show.
01:43:33.500
Question for the ladies, since Fresh and Fit slash Andrew Tate was brought up, would you
01:43:38.600
Next time I'm home, Harry's, Freebirds, or Cold Spring?
01:43:41.860
Yo, Travis, thank you for the $20 soup chat, 805 for life.
01:43:58.280
So, two of the girls on the show have actually been on Fresh and Fit, Kazumi, and, yeah, so,
01:44:08.160
It's a different experience being on their show because they, the dynamic is really weird
01:44:18.580
Because if you kind of like argue, because obviously we're talking about like hot button
01:44:23.460
topics, but they made this, they like made it really clear that if you kind of like disagree
01:44:27.960
too hard, you will be kicked out and not tagged, which is kind of like, okay, well, I've been
01:44:38.600
That's what they call like when they kick a girl out.
01:44:41.640
I stayed, I stayed the whole time and it was interesting because we were able to have
01:44:45.440
discussions, but they did kick another girl out and I felt sorry for her.
01:44:49.700
Well, so I, I don't think, I don't think they kick a girl out if she disagrees too hard
01:44:55.760
It's if they're being like rude or disrespectful that they kick them out.
01:44:57.860
Yeah, they kick her out for, for, for like a copious, um, what is it?
01:45:05.080
But yeah, I think she got really belligerent and like, it was just kind of like an awkward
01:45:09.080
Like, it was like, she was just like, and I was like, okay, okay.
01:45:13.920
Really quick before I do the rest of the super chats, you mentioned that you're a waifu.
01:45:18.220
Can we, can we get, um, an uwu and an ara, ara, ara, ara?
01:45:23.660
You can get the XXX version on my website, but okay.
01:45:30.520
And I'm not really good with the ara, ara, but.
01:45:47.760
It's just like, it's just like, it's just a face, yeah.
01:45:53.440
The ahigao face is like when you stick out your tongue and you cross my eye.
01:46:00.340
The ahigao is a cum face, so I can't do it naturally.
01:46:04.720
Like, I'm really bad at making a fake orgasm face.
01:46:06.940
It looks like I'm having a seizure and shitting myself at the same time.
01:46:18.660
Generally, most men don't care about women's money because men make their own money and
01:46:23.080
women won't spend their money on their men anyways.
01:46:25.360
Your experience, a man's money is both their money and a woman's money is her money.
01:46:35.160
The thing is, though, is like women really don't share their resources with men the same
01:46:41.660
That's, but yeah, we're speaking in generalities here, but that's most men's experience.
01:46:45.760
But you could just find a girl who doesn't think that way if it's a big deal for you.
01:46:52.400
It's like, it's like we can pretend like the world is black and white when in reality
01:46:57.420
But, okay, but the kind of the purpose of the show is to have a generalized discussion
01:47:04.600
I feel like the purpose of the show is also to show you guys a different perspective.
01:47:10.120
But, okay, so do you, okay, let me ask you a question.
01:47:15.960
Generally speaking, most women prefer to date men who are taller than them.
01:47:29.280
It is in your world because in my world, I don't think anyone cares.
01:47:32.820
Kazumi, what's the color of the sky when the sun's out?
01:47:38.200
Generally speaking, I guess women do care about height.
01:47:45.360
But also, if it's a really big deal to you and you're like a short guy, you will find
01:47:54.520
Also, I was doing a fuck a fan for short kings.
01:47:57.560
But it's also like there are many people out there that are short that also get laid all
01:48:04.000
I went on a date with a guy that was shorter than me.
01:48:07.020
My first boyfriend, my longest relationship was a short guy and he was three inches shorter
01:48:11.520
And I don't think we're like exceptions to a rule.
01:48:18.500
Has a guy ever either spoiled you or offered to spoil you?
01:49:11.620
Say I was asked him out on the first date, then I would pay because I'm asking him to
01:49:20.340
So like if he asks me to go out, then I would expect him to pay because he's inviting
01:49:34.340
I'm very pro on splitting it, but I've also like, I've been the one to ask out the guy
01:49:38.520
and I've been the one to pay and I like have no problem, but I think splitting is good.
01:49:54.380
If you had to give us a range, how many first...
01:49:57.140
Personally, it's going to be very rare for me to like go out of my way and ask somebody
01:50:10.100
But I also have been in a, like my long relationship.
01:50:14.740
We split everything down the middle all the time.
01:50:17.260
I just bought in the relationship that I was in, like previously I, for his birthday,
01:50:36.920
Like I feel like there needs to be a give and take.
01:50:40.520
So you said that if you had to like give it a range, how many first dates have you been
01:50:51.180
No, I know that there's nothing wrong with how many dates that I've been on.
01:51:03.060
I don't know if I would call every time I hang out with somebody new, like a date, like,
01:51:11.880
Let's say the first, instead of dates, let's call it the first time hanging out with someone
01:51:28.940
Okay, so of those a hundred, let's say, how many of those did you initiate?
01:51:36.600
I don't think I've ever initiated a first date or like the first time hanging out with
01:51:43.140
So just to bring it back to the who should pay thing, you said that whoever asks should
01:51:48.200
However, of the hundred first dates or whatever you want to call them that you've been on,
01:52:04.540
Because you say whoever asks should pay, yet you've never asked a guy out on a date.
01:52:16.340
Because I've had the completely opposite experience.
01:52:22.340
I would say most women are more like her than they are like you.
01:52:26.820
Okay, but why can't there be, why can't most women be like me?
01:52:35.600
They have the privilege and the benefit of not having to.
01:52:40.000
I think that's just, I think that's just, again, like personal preference.
01:52:50.980
But like, just pursue other women that would want to be willing to like give you more.
01:52:57.140
Men don't have the privilege of waiting around, letting women come to them.
01:53:16.120
I am an outlier, but my experience is still representative of a lot of other women who are just like me.
01:53:23.100
She is right here, and that's 50% of this whole squad right here.
01:53:26.720
Okay, but that doesn't represent 50% of all women.
01:53:31.180
I'm saying we're presenting 50% of the women right here.
01:53:33.820
But just because you guys move a certain way doesn't mean that that's going to be representative of all women.
01:53:41.100
I think you're, like, trying to create this, like, fake issue, right?
01:53:45.020
Like, men don't have the privilege of women reaching out to them, which just seems like maybe women haven't reached out to maybe you.
01:54:00.100
Like, Odell Beckham Jr., I'm sure women throw themselves at him all the time.
01:54:15.100
Yeah, they'll shoot their shot with a guy who's a fucking NFL player.
01:54:21.720
How about the normal guy that works at Starbucks?
01:54:26.300
We were at In-N-Out, and we were at the drive-thru, and the drive-thru guy was super cute.
01:54:36.480
And I think it's funny, though, too, because, like, guys do not get hit on nearly as much as women.
01:54:43.300
And when you hit on a guy, personally, me, I love making the first move because when you hit on a guy first.
01:54:51.480
But the question isn't, like, have you hit on a guy?
01:55:07.920
You can just pretend that women don't do that, but I think it's maybe these guys, you know?
01:55:13.280
Like, I, women, three out of four women here continually hit up guys.
01:55:22.300
Okay, but Kazumi, you are an outlier in numerous ways.
01:55:28.820
She is a pretty, she is a pretty woman in college who hits on guys.
01:55:35.680
Okay, but how are all, how are three of us outliers and one of us not?
01:55:39.060
Because we're just looking at us right here, though, like, majority of women do not make
01:55:43.320
the first move on guys because majority of women feel like, A, a man should come up
01:55:46.800
to them first, like, a man should spoil them first, like, we just have, like, a different,
01:55:51.500
Well, I think that in society's views, yeah, sure, most women don't do that, but I guess
01:55:55.920
the reason that we're saying that, hey, yes, we are women and we enjoy making the first
01:56:00.260
move, we enjoy initiating, we enjoy doing the things that the man is traditionally
01:56:04.700
supposed to do, we're just saying that to give the people watching the personality
01:56:09.060
perspective that, like, life is not just a box that you choose to put yourself in.
01:56:13.460
Like, there are so many different things going on.
01:56:24.320
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it is the exception.
01:56:29.580
Now, Kazumi, you said that, well, maybe, you know, it just doesn't happen to you, Brian.
01:56:39.200
My looks equivalent, my, say, status equivalent, if a girl had my following and was my looks
01:56:46.040
equivalent, I'd give myself, well, we could do the rating later, but she's getting, like,
01:57:01.680
Average men will never in their life get a single DM from a girl.
01:57:05.700
If a girl does, in the rare instance that it happens, does approach a guy, she's going
01:57:11.320
to go for, like, the guy she really, really likes, whereas guys are going to shoot their
01:57:16.100
shot at, like, girls that are their equivalent or even girls that are, like, looks-wise below
01:57:23.020
I think also women are socialized and not do the first move because they don't want to
01:57:29.140
They don't want the guy to be like, oh, is she thirsty?
01:57:34.760
You know, I'm a girl and I get rejected sometimes.
01:57:37.960
You know, like, I feel like the reason, there's many reasons why men don't get hit on as much
01:57:43.620
as women, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
01:57:46.080
I think it comes off as confident rather than...
01:57:51.200
When Brian is talking, like, saying in general, the average, he is talking about what is likely
01:57:59.580
You are still valid but aren't representative of all women.
01:58:05.680
Then how would you want me to approach the conversation since I can only talk about my
01:58:26.440
But we are talking about the human experience, right?
01:58:40.560
But it's not incorrect to say that humans have ten fingers because generally speaking,
01:58:49.760
What would this podcast be if I just continually agreed with you?
01:58:56.700
So I am here to give you your counterpoint, which is my ultimately extremely different experience than yours.
01:59:03.980
It's almost like you're not acknowledging the fact.
01:59:08.680
I know you're talking about the general speaking public, but I'm saying that the general speaking public doesn't actually exist.
01:59:14.480
We live in a world on the internet which has several different micro-communities of people who believe a certain thing and live by different societal rules.
01:59:22.620
Okay, Kazumi, here's the thing, is that we don't actually disagree.
01:59:29.060
We don't disagree, but it's sort of irrelevant because the point I'm trying to make is that men don't...
01:59:39.640
And you're trying to say, well, some women do, but that's really not...
01:59:44.560
That really doesn't combat the point I'm trying to make.
01:59:56.060
If I say most women don't initiate, most women don't approach men, your counter to my argument cannot be, well, some women do.
02:00:08.060
I'm giving a different perspective to an experience that a lot of these men online think that they are trapped in, right?
02:00:15.020
A lot of these men do believe that what you're saying is an absolute...
02:00:18.380
Unfortunately, because they are worm-brained, okay?
02:00:24.760
What specifically about what I said makes them worm-brained?
02:00:27.020
They think that you are speaking in absolute terms.
02:00:29.560
They don't understand that there are women like me who exist, right?
02:00:33.140
I have preempted almost all of my statements by saying in general.
02:00:39.140
And I have preempted most of my statements by saying my experience.
02:00:44.100
But you're saying I'm speaking in absolutes even though I've repeatedly said...
02:00:52.960
Your chat obviously thinks a lot of these things are absolutes.
02:00:56.240
They have not met women like me, so it's important for them to see women like me tell them my experience.
02:01:03.880
There are women that don't care about your dick size, your height, your finances, or whatever.
02:01:07.720
Really, the best way to approach dating is just by being a good person.
02:01:12.060
It's not wrong for someone in the chat to, for example, say women don't approach men.
02:01:21.540
And there's nothing wrong with me saying sometimes they do.
02:01:31.960
But it does not, it doesn't change the fact that for most men, they are invisible.
02:01:43.000
An average man will never get approached in his entire life.
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You cannot say the same about an average woman.
02:01:52.560
I think you, first of all, a lot of women don't get approached in real life.
02:02:00.780
There are a lot of women who are very unconventionally attractive.
02:02:04.280
There are women who aren't really cool or popular.
02:02:07.580
There are women who, and they don't get, and they don't.
02:02:12.420
If you go to a bar or nightclub, almost any woman's been approached in those venues.
02:02:25.740
I really haven't because I am a big girl, Brian.
02:02:35.080
Some guys, my boyfriend's certainly into big girls, and that's why we're together.
02:02:41.800
And I also don't normally get approached meaningfully and truthfully in the DMs either.
02:02:53.160
I also don't really consider myself conventionally attractive.
02:02:59.620
But, see, why can't that be the truth for men then?
02:03:03.080
If they're not getting approached because they have low confidence, then doesn't it make sense that they're obviously not going to attract anyone?
02:03:10.140
But besides the point, what I'm trying to say is, as a woman who, you know, is a human, has insecurities, is tall, and generally doesn't fit, like, the super attractive mold of what men are normally attracted to, it's very – I have been put in a position where I – it's the norm for me to initiate.
02:03:27.880
Because the majority of men don't initiate with me.
02:03:31.240
But that doesn't mean that there are going to be – there aren't going to be a few guys who do initiate with me because in, like, the recent times there have been.
02:03:41.140
But I, as a woman, don't normally get approached in outside areas, especially when I'm surrounded by women who are more conventionally attractive than me, shorter than me, skinnier than me.
02:03:55.080
But I don't – I don't let that fester in my brain and make it seem like, oh, I'm never going to find love, like, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
02:04:01.500
I need to make the change in myself to achieve what I want.
02:04:06.040
Okay, but do you – you are out there in the ether when it comes to social media, so you don't get any DMs?
02:04:13.140
I mean, you have an OnlyFans, I assume, your only – your patrons are – I don't know what the proper – your fans, I guess.
02:04:20.160
But I suspect that they have a romantic interest in you.
02:04:25.140
They DM – okay, well, first of all, people who DM me on social media don't normally DM me to have a meaningful connection with me.
02:04:38.740
Because – okay, in what position would a man be put in?
02:04:43.240
Or, like, what scenario would a man be in for a woman to approach him like that?
02:04:51.020
She has an OnlyFans page, so of course they are.
02:04:53.260
I am personified as a sexual being, which is why men are okay DMing me, stuff like that.
02:05:00.520
No, I told you I do have DMs, but a lot of them aren't for personal connections.
02:05:11.140
Well, but that's kind of what we're talking about.
02:05:13.580
Yeah, but what I'm saying is, like, the only reason –
02:05:22.900
What about the guys who do put themselves out there, like –
02:05:25.760
Yeah, like the guy who chops wood, Bradley Thor.
02:05:41.900
He's, like, a guy who is in the forest and he chops wood.
02:05:46.200
He's, like, very, like, I don't know, popular –
02:05:56.960
I have a friend who's, like, a super muscular bodybuilder dude,
02:06:00.260
and his DMs are blown the fuck up by men and women.
02:06:20.580
Okay, a girl with, like, 1,000 followers is getting a lot of DMs on Instagram.
02:06:27.220
Sydney, how many followers on Instagram do you have?
02:06:32.540
How many DMs per week would you say you get from men?
02:06:43.580
Like, in the past week, I've gotten, like, five.
02:06:49.340
Yeah, and some of them are from, like, your show.
02:06:52.900
Yeah, but you haven't been on the show in months.
02:06:55.000
So, it's like, okay, some of them are from the show.
02:07:00.900
Before you ever were on my show, were you getting DMs from men?
02:07:17.480
I'm not going to, I'm, there's no DMs there, but okay.
02:07:24.160
Your male counterpart, let's say, goes to City College, no girls are DMing him.
02:07:36.560
No 22-year-olds at Santa Barbara City College, no males, are getting DMs.
02:07:42.380
Maybe some of the football players might, might be getting DMs, but even then, SBC, what
02:08:00.100
No, and honestly though, like, I do think, and like, I see it from both point of views
02:08:05.920
too, because like, I have like, both, like, friends, like some of my best friends are guys,
02:08:17.780
And I DM the guys though too, like, I've been like, debating DMing me like this one.
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The guys you do DM are like, they're really fucking hot.
02:08:29.520
A guy could DM a girl that is like, less attractive than her and still get blanked, still just invisible.
02:08:37.080
So like, anyways, I do want to get through the soup chats because we have quite a few guys.
02:08:44.960
Okay, so we have Louis Brito, 20 Law Soup Chat, question for the panel, what constitutes
02:08:52.660
You'd be okay with dating a guy, even if you work six days a week and makes under, it
02:08:57.220
sounds like from our earlier conversations, most of the girls seemed okay.
02:09:00.900
It didn't really care too much about income, but if you, any of you want to.
02:09:04.600
I mean, a bum is like a mindset, you know what I mean?
02:09:07.420
Like, it's like, I've met guys who are trust fund babies and I think they're bums.
02:09:11.840
And it's like, they live in giant penthouses and it's like, you just don't.
02:09:18.060
Like, I was going to like roast my brother, but it's like, he has no job, bro.
02:09:24.120
Like, please figure out something that makes you feel alive.
02:09:28.960
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, no scrubs, no scrubs.
02:09:31.620
And it's like, I've dated guys who, you know, like I dated this guy and he's like a construction
02:09:37.400
And he works so much and obviously I make more, but he's cool.
02:09:41.000
And it's like, he likes what he does and that's interesting.
02:09:46.180
So it's, yeah, it's more so a mindset than like an income thing.
02:09:49.800
I don't really care if you're a blue collar or like an entrepreneur as long, or whatever
02:09:53.520
the fuck, as long as you really like what you're doing or, or not even like, like what
02:09:59.860
Um, I do have a, we're going to continue on with the super chats here in just a sec.
02:10:11.280
Um, would it be a deal breaker if a guy had trouble getting it up?
02:10:21.580
Maybe not every time, but it was a continuous issue.
02:10:29.360
Just because like, I think at that point, like I would get either like self-conscious,
02:10:36.900
Like, why is this in every, like, if it's like a situation that never changes and he
02:10:41.260
won't go like, see someone about it or do something about it?
02:10:45.660
And I mean, that relationship's not totally based off of sex, but yeah.
02:10:47.980
If, if it happens the first time is a wrap or will you give him?
02:10:51.440
No, I would give it another opportunity or two.
02:10:57.140
Um, so it would be an issue, but it would be an issue that I would look to like get help,
02:11:01.840
you know, maybe like intimacy counseling or, you know, like talking about other factors
02:11:09.280
Um, if he couldn't get it up the first time, I would also definitely give him another chance.
02:11:13.460
It wouldn't be like immediate, just the first time.
02:11:18.480
Like I know that a lot, like I know a lot of the time it is mental for guys and a lot
02:11:24.020
of, you know, the guy friends that I have had who have talked to me about it are like,
02:11:27.200
yeah, you know, like I was just really stressed out and like, I was really nervous and blah,
02:11:31.000
Like it happens and it's a normal part of life.
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Cause that, well, I'll let everyone answer, but, um, but if it was kind of like continuous.
02:12:00.440
I mean, I would obviously talk to them about it.
02:12:04.120
And also there are definitely factors that come into play as far as maybe they're watching
02:12:11.860
Maybe they're, maybe they are, um, low in testosterone.
02:12:26.700
I once dated a guy and I really, really liked him.
02:12:32.360
And there was just many, many times and it didn't work, but I really liked him.
02:12:40.120
Like, I just kind of was like, we really like, just like got to the root of the problem.
02:12:44.680
And it was about like, just making him feel comfortable.
02:12:47.200
I feel like some guys get intimidated with me sexually.
02:12:51.460
Um, so we just had like more conversations about it.
02:12:56.280
Like, and I wanted to date this guy, but if it was like just a hookup.
02:13:01.720
We can't, I don't know if we can do this, but if I really, really liked you, then we'll
02:13:07.680
But if you were kind of lukewarm on the guy, you didn't dislike him, but it wasn't like
02:13:13.600
Do you think that, uh, I think Eric had this, it was like, if he was creative sexually in
02:13:20.280
different ways, like, okay, like a big thing I told him was like, okay, if your dick can't
02:13:24.060
get hard and we're both naked and we're turned on, we have to keep like this sexual energy
02:13:28.420
flowing through different types of foreplay or just making sure we're still both like interested
02:13:34.720
Like if, if you kind of are like, I'm not hard, like this whole thing is over, we're
02:13:51.640
So do you need a, do you need like a, a pharmacist to say you could buy it or you could just
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Um, you, you need to, uh, it's like a doctor, it's like, it's all, it's just like online
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and then the doctor can do like a tele visit or whatever.
02:14:14.500
Uh, can, wait, do we, Kazumi, do you want to read this?
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By the way, sorry for the delay to getting into these super chats.
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Dude, Beauty and Cheeks is like losing his mind over me.
02:14:41.680
I do decent in life and would rather date a Walmart beauty over, a Walmart beauty over
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High value men know if I'm making money, it's our money.
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By the way, look at, he's got like a sick beard.
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And I was like, it's your right, Jacob, to date whoever you want.
02:15:43.500
I think that OF girls are out of touch with financial differences between men and women
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because their paychecks are exponentially greater than most men's pay with little to
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There's also a lot of reasons why girls drop it after like a month or three.
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Like, it really is not as easy as people make it seem.
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Yeah, most girls read these chats and this would break them, dude.
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It's like if, like, the average girl who tries, like, the reason-
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Hell, I just hope you are wearing a jimmy for this conversation.
02:16:51.120
I just don't understand what these girls think a high-value man would run for them.
02:17:08.420
I don't think I would date him, but it wouldn't be because of anything.
02:17:11.880
Honestly, anyone, any guy who labels himself as a high-value man is not someone-
02:17:21.800
Do you think you would make a good wife to a high-value man?
02:17:28.300
Like, are we talking in the actual term, like a guy who's just a really cool dude?
02:17:35.940
If you mean high-value man the way this guy's probably thinking about a high-value man.
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Here, just disregard the high-value man component.
02:17:56.700
So my question is, what do you bring to the table?
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I have, like, my love language is definitely, like, I think my love language, like, covers
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all bases, and I'm just, like, I know that I'll be a good partner.
02:18:23.640
Like, I know that I'll be able to take care of my spouse, and I know that I'll be able
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to support them and be there for them no matter what, but, like, right now in this time in
02:18:46.120
I also bring, like, and when I say fun, that also means money.
02:18:49.480
Like, I'm willing to pay, more than willing to pay for fun experiences, you, dinners, trips,
02:18:56.200
I'm also very supportive, and I will, you know, definitely support you and my husband if he
02:19:17.460
When I say fun in all aspects of life, I also definitely mean, like, the bedroom, because
02:19:30.580
Open-mindedness, honest, loyalty, support, like, good support system.
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I feel like that's very important in a relationship.
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Just being there for that person and, like, having their back no matter what.
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Like, putting them first, like, making our relationship a priority no matter, no matter
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But I thought, didn't earlier, I don't know if these two things necessarily contradict.
02:20:00.560
Earlier, you said that you're, you were independent.
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And so, do you think that you're, you said you want to continue working when you get married
02:20:11.100
Do you think that that could potentially come at the expense of the relationship and the
02:20:17.080
I would never be with a man who, like, it was a make-or-break deal where I had to be a
02:20:22.140
stay-at-home mom or I wasn't allowed to have my own income.
02:20:26.320
What if a guy made a million bucks, a million dollars, and he could support you, but he said,
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Like, I wouldn't be happy in that relationship.
02:20:38.400
Well, what if he said, I want you to just take care of the kids, I want you to just
02:20:46.440
I mean, if you want to go to the gym, stay fit, you know, do those things.
02:20:48.960
Well, no, what I'm saying is, like, I'm not allowed to do anything else as far as creating
02:20:54.000
Well, I mean, if you're married, you guys share.
02:20:57.780
Like, it's scary for women not to have something where, like, if it comes time for us to need
02:21:06.940
Which is so sad that we even have to think about that.
02:21:13.820
That's not the only reason why I want to make my own money.
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It's just because I want to have something that's my own.
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Like, I want to have my own and keep my own identity.
02:21:48.000
But, if I work with the stuff that I do, it'd probably be from home.
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But, so, you marry a guy who makes a million bucks, but he says, hey, I want...
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But, like, I'm still going to have my own thing.
02:22:13.940
But then, if your husband says, well, I'd rather you focus on the kids.
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That would be a conversation that we would have before we even, like, made the relationship.
02:22:33.820
I feel like, first and foremost, with all of my relationships, is I'm just a great friend.
02:22:48.600
Obviously, I'm a hard person to date because I do porn.
02:22:52.140
And, I'm always going to be about ethical non-monogamy.
02:22:57.180
I feel like I bring a lot of, like, fun to the table.
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And, not only that, it's like, I'm a reliable person.
02:23:16.160
But, that's irrelevant to the fact that what I bring to the table is that, like, if I want
02:23:29.260
Like, with my partner, I surprise him with roses.
02:23:34.260
Like, you know, if there's an anniversary, then he always knows when he opens a hotel
02:23:39.960
You know, I make sure the guy feels validated and special.
02:23:42.640
And, I'm not shy to tell him, like, I think you look so handsome.
02:23:46.820
And, I will show him with my words, my body, and, like, my actions.
02:23:51.260
So, I feel like I do bring a lot to the table in that regard.
02:23:58.200
The two corn on the cob, that's funny, need to come down from their cloud of financial
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independence and expensive lifestyle delusion in order to have a real conversation.
02:24:07.460
You're the exception, and you can't seem to grasp that.
02:24:12.980
I do not make the amount of money that she makes, okay?
02:24:16.220
Just because I'm an OF girl does not mean I'm living in some, like, luxury penthouse,
02:24:24.820
I also feel like, I mean, it's not like I'm, like, a big baller spender for the most
02:24:31.280
I save my, I'm, like, not an, I make a lot of money, but a lot of it is saved immediately
02:24:35.640
into my retirement and investments, and I live a pretty normal, humble lifestyle.
02:24:39.880
So, it's like, I mean, I'm just talking realistically.
02:24:43.380
In a perfect world, and luckily in the world I live in, the choices I make are because I want
02:24:48.060
to do them and not based off of survival or convenience.
02:24:50.180
She's so quick to defend her reality, but will instantly attack and try to disapprove
02:24:56.880
Why can't you accept that a lot of men have it hard in the dating market?
02:25:00.640
Bro, because as soon as you wake up from the fact that a lot of your preconceived notions
02:25:06.600
about what women want are self, are enabled by yourself and your own experiences and decisions
02:25:13.300
to decide that that's how you think relationships are, the freer you'll become.
02:25:17.220
As Yaya said, you know, life for her is hard, is, dating for her is harder because she may
02:25:22.800
not seem or feel like the most conventionally attractive woman, but if she, like, lived in
02:25:26.520
that prison for herself, she wouldn't get anything done.
02:25:29.540
She wouldn't be in a relationship, and it would be hard, but because she takes the courage
02:25:33.300
to put herself out there and not live in these, like, restrictions where she feels like
02:25:37.180
people wouldn't want to date her because of her weight or because of her interest, she's
02:25:40.640
able to take a chance and take a leap and take a risk to meet people who would want what
02:25:47.120
And if men would realize, like, hey, if you didn't give a fuck about as much as these
02:25:53.080
insecurities that we tell you time and time again that we don't really care about, you
02:25:58.920
I used to have a sugar daddy, and he was really cool.
02:26:05.260
He made video games, and all we would do is eat sugarfish and have the laziest backshots
02:26:13.520
The only issue was that he was short, but the real underlying issue was that he just
02:26:20.080
wouldn't shut the fuck up about how he was short and how women wouldn't want to date
02:26:24.820
And I was like, dude, honestly, women don't want to date you because you were just so loudly
02:26:30.320
And once you work on this insecure part of yourself and just kind of, like, just show
02:26:35.520
up and be a cool guy the way I know you're a cool guy, trust me, a woman would just date
02:26:41.780
Like, it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy of, like, oh, I suck.
02:26:44.720
I have to work up, like, make up for it in some weird way.
02:26:47.800
And women can tell when you feel insecure, and then it is a turnoff because the sexiest
02:26:52.280
part of you is being confident and, like, working on yourself and your self-esteem.
02:26:56.240
Yeah, but if a guy is confident, but he doesn't meet a woman's metrics of what she desires
02:27:03.080
in terms of physical attractiveness, one of which is height, it doesn't matter how confident,
02:27:13.400
But, okay, if a guy is 5'2", if a guy is 5'2", and he's super confident, it's not like
02:27:23.240
he's going to struggle with dating despite his confidence.
02:27:28.360
I, well, okay, well, I'm still his friend, you know?
02:27:30.980
And now he is still short because he, I don't know, height surgery hasn't existed to make
02:27:41.440
He always had an income that was cool, obviously, because he was my sugar daddy.
02:27:45.180
The only thing that really changed is that he became more confident to talk to women,
02:27:49.320
and he, like, worked on that part of his self-esteem.
02:27:52.900
And that's what I'm just saying is, like, a lot of these small things, small factors aren't
02:27:58.200
as big of a deal-breaker as most men think as long as you are just happy with yourself.
02:28:03.540
I mean, most short guys would have no issue dating a woman taller than them, but the reality
02:28:09.740
is is that they can be as confident as possible, but for some women, it's just, hey, that's
02:28:16.760
kind of a deal-breaker for them if the guy is shorter.
02:28:26.000
Because now he's happy, and he's dating women that are tall, and they're just, it doesn't
02:28:30.900
It's not that big of a deal once you just escape that mindset.
02:28:34.420
Dava, thank you for the Canadian $20 soup chat.
02:28:42.340
Look into Nora Vincent, the lesbian who became a man, not through surgery, for 18 months and
02:28:51.560
So there's a woman who turned herself into a man and lived as a man, and as a man would
02:29:02.160
To basically run an experiment on how different it is for men and women in this society.
02:29:11.760
Well, she was a feminist, and she wanted to go in and basically point out, here, I'm
02:29:16.680
living as a man, here, watch all these privileges and benefits fall into my lap, and then she
02:29:22.280
realized how brutally and crippling, crippling, I'm butchering this, how brutally lonely it
02:29:27.840
is to be a man, and actually how difficult it is to be a man.
02:29:31.100
And then she kind of, well, then later on, it's not clear to me if it's, this is why she
02:29:37.180
deleted herself, but she did delete herself, so.
02:29:40.460
Yeah, I would just need to know more context about that situation.
02:29:43.120
But, uh, yeah, basically she was like, whoa, this is like the way I'm getting treated as
02:29:48.060
a man, like I'm getting all this stuff, I'm super lonely, blah, blah, blah, so, um, go
02:29:54.660
Bruh, Kazumi, if women were really approaching men, you would not be making 300k a month.
02:30:04.840
In, in terms of men having it harder for dating, these industries, specifically, specifically
02:30:10.680
sex work, would not be generating the sort of money that it is if men were getting women.
02:30:17.780
I, do you think, I, first of all, I don't think only single men are in my, are in my
02:30:22.980
No, there's definitely guys who have girlfriends and are, I don't, that's, that just doesn't
02:30:28.420
Also, I've totally been with, and I've also hung out with my fans, I have a discord to follow
02:30:33.400
my fans, some of them have girlfriends, some of them do get pussy, they also just happen
02:30:37.720
to support a creator, like, I think, I'm pretty sure most men watch porn, you know, the fact
02:30:43.980
that they are, they have the kindness to support a local hoe and, like, pay, pay for, pay for
02:30:49.960
my homegrown porn, doesn't mean that they get no bitches.
02:30:53.660
Let me, can I ask you guys a question, um, do more men watch porn than do women watch porn,
02:31:06.380
I think so, just because, like, I don't want to agree with you, but like you said, like,
02:31:11.740
it's easier for women to get sex than for men to have sex, and so I think, like, for men
02:31:20.440
to watch porn, that's kind of, like, their way of, like, you know, but I mean, women totally
02:31:26.660
I don't think porn is a supplement of human connection.
02:31:29.420
It's not at all, but I think it's definitely, like.
02:31:31.700
Like, I've definitely talked to guys who are athletes and, like, musicians and they're
02:31:36.520
cool guys and they still watch porn just because they want to get off.
02:31:42.040
It's just, like, I just want to watch some porn.
02:31:44.600
I don't think them watch, yeah, of course, I definitely feel like men watch porn more
02:31:50.820
than women, and that's also, but I don't know, I guess.
02:31:54.700
Do you think men that are getting laid regularly watch more or less porn than men that don't
02:31:59.940
I think if you're a guy who just kind of chronically watches porn, you do that regardless of being
02:32:05.760
Like, I know my boyfriend still watches porn, and he can totally fuck me or someone else.
02:32:24.140
Why, when Chase is present, the girls are always irritated at some point during the show?
02:32:30.440
Have you, oh yeah, I don't know these, have you ever invited Pearl to the show?
02:32:34.060
Yo, Frank, brub, thank you for the 50 euro, appreciate it.
02:32:36.900
The TTS is broken, but we are, Kazumi is filling in as our honorary.
02:32:45.460
Like, think, maybe, because you donate in euro, so maybe you could do, hold, dirt and shit.
02:33:05.320
So he definitely pushes buttons a bit more than me.
02:33:11.920
Not my co-host, but he's been on a couple shows.
02:33:14.700
Eric, go ahead, pull up the, but Frank, thank you, man.
02:33:22.000
She's actually, I think she's moving to the US.
02:33:27.500
Yo, Derping, oh, actually, you get, go ahead, Kazumi.
02:33:29.780
Based on dating site matches, Tinder, I think it was, there is a steep drop-off for men
02:33:34.020
getting matched when going from six feet tall to five foot 11 inches tall.
02:33:43.480
First of all, Tinder is an app based off of your social appearance.
02:33:48.520
So, also, if I went outside, I really couldn't tell the difference between a guy who was six
02:33:56.720
Yeah, I, like, if I was, if, first of all, if you're five foot 11 and you think it is
02:34:01.540
a big steep drop-off, just say six foot, I won't be able to tell.
02:34:04.620
Like, I, if I met you at, I don't, I think you're like six, seven.
02:34:15.460
There should be another, there's another one, Eric.
02:34:26.000
Oh my God, how much money do you make from a single stream?
02:34:30.300
These are my patrons, my deeply appreciated patrons.
02:34:39.320
Wait, let me read that guy, because I have a follow-up statement.
02:34:43.320
The one that says, bro, the ones that pay for OnlyFans girls.
02:34:46.080
Bruh, but the ones that follow OnlyFans or watch obsessively porn are not getting enough.
02:34:52.660
You are a guy that supports the creators you like, just like everyone else.
02:35:04.740
Whether it's like a, it's porn or your favorite podcast or Netflix, you are paying money for
02:35:10.280
a creator or a group of creators to fund what they are doing.
02:35:13.640
I don't think, do you feel like because he's watching his podcast, he just doesn't have
02:35:21.660
Like, I'm sure he has a social life and is cool.
02:35:25.720
Also, maybe there are a few extremists who don't get any pussy, but I'm sure they just
02:35:32.460
Well, I mean, they, they are patrons and they support the show, but all right.
02:35:41.320
I mean, if men were regularly getting laid, there would not be such a demand for pornography,
02:35:54.680
I think a lot of men in the strip club are married.
02:35:56.720
If men were regularly, if men were, let me, then why is it that women don't consume these
02:36:05.180
There's a strip, there's a strip club in Santa Barbara.
02:36:07.600
Do you want to get, do you want to guess if it's for men or for women?
02:36:19.160
There's more men in there than there are women, but that doesn't mean that there aren't any
02:36:31.380
I think it's social stigma because realistically as a woman, I like as a girl, even, you know,
02:36:36.920
being raised, I was always being told ways to make sure I don't come across as a slut
02:36:43.580
And I'm sure that if I was raised in an environment that didn't, you know, necessarily enforce those
02:36:50.640
kinds of gender roles, I would be consuming porn at the same rate as like.
02:36:56.060
But as a woman, I was raised to be more conservative and to not really partake in that kind of stuff.
02:37:02.700
So there's, there's probably, that's probably a reason why.
02:37:06.840
You know, when I turned 18, I, no, sorry, not 18.
02:37:10.620
For my 21st birthday, I went to Vegas and I went to a strip club and I had so much fun
02:37:15.640
because I was like, wow, like I've never been to a strip club before and I've always wanted
02:37:19.720
But that's only because I finally found a group of people that were like, hey, it's not weird
02:37:26.760
Because most women, regardless if they have OnlyFans or whatever, are often shamed and
02:37:33.280
treated differently because, you know, because of wanting to be sexual just like men do.
02:37:39.740
Let's, let's talk about the ultimate form of sex work, which is prostitution.
02:37:50.000
I don't count, so I should have just not mentioned it.
02:37:53.400
I've recently been thinking about hiring a male escort.
02:37:58.960
So just generally speaking though, of the people in the entire world or let's, yeah, we
02:38:06.240
could say the entire world or we can say the United States, of the people that pay for
02:38:13.740
It's probably men, but that's just because women are demonized when they try to be a
02:38:22.300
Like, I feel like for men with the hormone difference, it's like, it's like, yeah, like
02:38:38.260
Circling back to your point though, regardless of if more women were approaching men, I don't
02:38:43.540
think that it would affect sex, Shrek's work at all.
02:38:47.980
Because truthfully, people will always want to be sexual beings regardless of if they're
02:38:52.280
in a relationship, if they're single, if they're being approached, whatever.
02:38:56.440
Does that mean I'm not allowed to watch porn anymore?
02:38:59.540
Does that mean I'm not allowed to pursue other sexual experiences if I feel like I need it
02:39:03.580
in my partner and I want to come to an agreement about it?
02:39:06.480
Like, the work is always going to be there because there's always going to be a demand
02:39:11.040
regardless of if men are getting approached by women more or not.
02:39:14.180
But the point is, these industries would not be as prominent as they are if it wasn't for
02:39:20.000
And men's lack of attention from the opposite sex.
02:39:28.480
Imagine like back in the day when, okay, let me say something else.
02:39:34.240
I, as a person, can learn how to make Chinese food at home.
02:39:37.600
And I can cook it myself and not have to go out, blah, blah, blah.
02:39:40.820
But sometimes it's just more convenient to go out and buy it.
02:39:47.120
Or a better example, I went to college for fashion.
02:39:53.140
I could tell you so much about that shirt that you're wearing right now.
02:39:56.520
And it wouldn't sound like English to you, right?
02:40:00.100
Does that mean I make all of my own clothes all the time?
02:40:10.260
Does that mean I make all of the clothes myself?
02:40:12.520
No, because sometimes it's much easier to go out and buy those clothes.
02:40:16.280
So circling back to your point, just because in a world, if men were getting approached
02:40:22.160
by women, sometimes you just gotta, sometimes you just gotta let it out.
02:40:25.100
And that means watching corn or hiring an escort to do that.
02:40:53.660
The special thing, no, I wish it was in every major city.
02:40:56.420
I'm sure, the reason why it's packed out is because there's only so many few male review
02:41:01.280
What is the point of a business to make money, right?
02:41:05.540
If somebody, okay, there's a strip club in Santa Barbara with female strippers.
02:41:10.880
If there was a male strip club in Santa Barbara, it would go out of business.
02:41:16.420
A hundred percent, it would go out of business.
02:41:18.140
What if they had Magic Mike people dancing and dancing?
02:41:19.840
There's not, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's not a demand for
02:41:26.680
I'm sure there are many women in Santa Barbara who would really want to see that because
02:41:31.400
These college girls with the amount of guys that we deal with.
02:41:40.180
We're telling you that we want to spend money like that and you are saying that.
02:41:58.200
If there was a market for it, there would be a strip club in Santa Barbara.
02:42:01.900
There would, a male strip club in Santa Barbara.
02:42:04.280
There'd be a male strip club in all the cities that there's a female strip club.
02:42:07.340
The reality, tell you what, Kazumi, you're a high earner.
02:42:18.600
I just wouldn't do it in a location like Santa Barbara because.
02:42:26.020
Hire someone to manage it here in Santa Barbara.
02:42:28.100
If you want to see some male strippers here, sure.
02:42:32.280
It might do okay in LA because LA is a major city.
02:42:34.480
No, it's probably because I just literally live there, dude.
02:42:38.760
It's like, I'm literally telling you that there are women who would pay.
02:42:45.580
And the reason why is because there's only so few male review shows.
02:42:50.500
Dude, I have also a lot of homegirls who've paid for male escorts.
02:43:00.960
The demand is there, but it's not as great as a demand for female performers.
02:43:14.660
When I say there is no demand, I don't mean that there is absolutely zero demand.
02:43:19.580
I'm saying that the demand is not sufficient enough.
02:43:24.280
Well, what I'm saying is say that instead because there is a demand.
02:43:28.820
But okay, if there's one girl in Santa Barbara that would be willing to go to a male strip club,
02:43:34.320
that is not a sufficient amount of people to make that a profitable business.
02:43:43.800
Because for the business to work, there must be a sufficient demand for it to make money and for it to work.
02:43:50.740
So let's say a male strip club did open up in Santa Barbara.
02:43:56.180
Can you tell me, how long have you been in Santa Barbara?
02:44:02.460
You know, like what are like the statistics, like how do people normally act here?
02:44:06.900
Do people here normally come from religious households?
02:44:11.400
Do people here come from like traditional households?
02:44:13.880
Like I want to know what the social life is like here.
02:44:20.480
So let's say a male strip club did open and girls go.
02:44:27.420
What if there's a guy who goes and sees all these women here and is like, whoa, why are you here?
02:44:36.140
What the point I'm trying to get at is men can comfortably be in a strip club setting
02:44:42.100
like that, whereas women normally can't because again, we are demonized when we want to express
02:44:53.420
Whereas, you know, if a guy told me he went to a strip club, it would be like, okay, no big
02:44:57.520
If I told somebody I went to a strip club, they would be like, why were you at a strip
02:45:03.000
And actually male sexual, male sexuality is more demonized in today's day and age than
02:45:13.780
Aren't we talking about in general, haven't we been talking about in general this entire
02:45:21.860
We're literally slut shamed all the time for wearing a top that shows too much of our boobs.
02:45:26.400
And if we, I don't know if you saw that recent story, if we so much as even glance at a woman
02:45:35.340
But girls will say, oh, some fucking creeper stared at me.
02:45:41.820
Male sexuality, male sexuality is now being demonized.
02:45:46.260
And I want to say like, I think that that situation got really out of hand.
02:45:50.420
It's just some poor guy in the gym who doesn't even consent to being filmed, being blasted on social
02:45:58.840
My point is that no gender should be sexualized, I'm sorry, demonized for expressing their sexuality.
02:46:04.900
And also that entire thing was literally insane and actually so dangerous because there are
02:46:10.100
women now posting videos of themselves, not being able to like school, like, you know,
02:46:15.840
Only being able to like ask men for help and men will just ignore them.
02:46:33.700
There are some guys who aren't really into sex, just like there are some girls who aren't
02:46:37.920
I mean, I think women enjoy, actually can enjoy sex more than men, but I think men have a much
02:46:43.380
stronger desire to have sex than women, generally speaking, because of testosterone.
02:46:58.300
She clearly thinks the chat isn't smart enough to understand the word more likely, which is
02:47:25.920
Yes, we'll take you for a spin, but we won't take you serious.
02:47:28.820
Men want traditional women, just like you want traditional men.
02:47:31.380
I definitely don't know what a traditional man or woman is, and nor do I have to even follow
02:47:38.460
Also, in the same regard, like, why are you trying to open so many locks in the first
02:47:43.560
place if you think that a lock opening up to every key is bad?
02:47:49.500
Well, men and women's sexual strategies are different.
02:48:01.560
What I'm saying is that there's a double standard.
02:48:02.760
Like, if you want a woman who has, like, a low body count or low sexual experience, then,
02:48:07.860
like, why are you out here doing the most and, like, you know, freaking everything that
02:48:18.040
So, do you think it's hypocritical that, say, for example, a guy who, he has a high body
02:48:21.780
count, he would prefer a woman with a low body count?
02:48:27.020
I do think that it's hypocritical, and I think it's a little weird.
02:48:37.420
Do you think it's hypocritical if a man has a high body count and wants a woman with a
02:48:51.300
I mean, I think whatever you're, whatever, everyone is entitled to their own dating preferences,
02:48:58.740
I think it's silly to, to place, to care about that stuff, but it's also like, we, we just
02:49:09.580
So, you believe that there's the double standard, though?
02:49:14.060
Because I feel like it's something that men, a lot of men focus so highly on, and I'm just
02:49:18.760
kind of like, well, you're doing the same thing.
02:49:24.140
So, but I guess my rebuttal to the whole thing, like, oh, it's hypocritical if a guy
02:49:28.840
who, with the, excuse me, getting tongue-tied here, you think it's hypocritical if a guy
02:49:33.500
who has a high body count prefers a woman with a low body count?
02:49:36.760
I just think it's, okay, everyone is entitled to their own preferences, like Kazumi said,
02:49:43.180
So, to want a low body count or for a guy with a high body count to want a low body count?
02:49:46.640
With a high body count to want someone with a low body count.
02:49:50.120
Hey, if you want somebody with a low body count, then whatever, that's your preference.
02:49:53.860
But if you have, like, a super high one and you're like, oh, I will only date a person
02:49:59.200
First of all, body count doesn't even really matter that much.
02:50:01.900
But for the people that it does, for the people that it does, like, matter to, if you
02:50:08.520
want someone with a low body count, then why aren't you practicing what you preach?
02:50:16.860
I was just going to say, I think, and I'm not, like, for either side, but I kind of
02:50:21.640
I think men have sex for a different reason than women.
02:50:25.420
I think women go for a more of a connection, not all.
02:50:28.100
I think women go for more of a connection base versus whereas men go more for just, like,
02:50:34.600
Again, not all of the time, but, like, I know that women are more of, like, emotional
02:50:41.840
And so I think that's kind of, but that's just something I thought.
02:50:47.380
Do you think that you shouldn't desire something in someone that you yourself do not possess?
02:50:55.220
So, a guy who has a high body count, he should not desire something in someone else that
02:51:02.240
he himself does not possess and that being a low body count.
02:51:05.620
I think you can desire an opposite effect in your partner.
02:51:12.000
Well, that's what I'm kind of about to, that's what I'm about to arrive at my point, but I
02:51:20.560
I, because personally, I don't really care too much about body count, so I don't really
02:51:24.140
think about these conversations a lot, but I think it's okay.
02:51:40.120
A lot of the time when a man is focusing on body count and a high one or a low one, right?
02:51:49.120
Oh, you're used, like no one's going to want you, blah, blah, blah.
02:51:56.400
It comes from a place of shaming because there's a difference between a guy saying, oh, I don't
02:52:00.420
want a girl with a low body count and a difference between saying, oh, I don't want to.
02:52:04.640
And him saying like, oh, I want a girl with a low body count because girls with high body
02:52:10.640
counts are sluts and whores and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
02:52:14.140
So if he is coming at it from a respectful point of view, then like power to you, bro.
02:52:19.720
But the fact of the matter is, is that most of these guys are not coming from a, like a
02:52:30.660
Because as a person, first of all, I'm a person, right?
02:52:33.460
I'm not a log, I'm not a cookie, I'm not whatever fricking analogy you want to use
02:52:39.840
I'm a person and I am allowed to have my own experiences in life.
02:52:45.360
And a lot of those for me have been sexual and they've been so much fun.
02:52:49.180
And you as a man are allowed to do the exact same thing.
02:52:52.220
But where the issue comes from is like you as a man, most men are like, oh, you're not
02:52:56.400
allowed to have that because you're used or damaged goods.
02:52:59.600
That is, so it's really the mentality behind it and not the actual sentiment.
02:53:04.860
Well, I mean, there's a variety of reasons why men think body count matters, but just
02:53:09.780
to address the double standard or the hypocrisy thing, there are things that people desire
02:53:15.960
in a partner that they themselves do not possess.
02:53:18.820
For example, I would say 99% of women, if asked, if you asked a girl, do you want a guy
02:53:25.820
I would say 99% of women would say, yeah, I like funny guys.
02:53:37.840
Men and women, what we find attractive in the partner, there's not a symmetry.
02:53:43.080
There's not always symmetry in what we find attractive.
02:53:45.560
For example, if a woman wants a man who's six feet tall, ought she be six feet tall too?
02:53:55.560
Many women want a charismatic man, yet they may not necessarily be charismatic themselves.
02:54:02.540
Many women want a guy who's chivalrous, but they don't want, they are not chivalrous themselves.
02:54:07.880
Many women want a physically strong man, yet they are not physically strong themselves.
02:54:16.400
So I don't necessarily think that it's actually wrong for even a guy who has a high body count
02:54:26.060
Because there's asymmetries in what we find attractive.
02:54:29.040
Like, let's say a woman has a high body count and she prefers a man with a low body count.
02:54:36.620
I'm just saying, I think it's a little weird given the context of which body counts are usually
02:54:46.540
I don't really keep track of, you know, the people that I have connections with like that.
02:54:51.500
And, but I guess I'm talking to the people who do care about it, right?
02:54:56.680
And again, most of the time, the people who do care about it, it doesn't come from like
02:55:07.880
This is like my, my like, my participation part.
02:55:21.700
This ho calling men insecure is in for a reality check when she realizes they only want her
02:55:29.040
Brace yourself for a cat lady existence ending up all alone.
02:55:32.260
The funniest thing is when this just doesn't happen.
02:55:35.820
The funniest thing is when life just turns out to be fine for all of us.
02:55:44.920
You don't want to be treated like an object, but you objectified yourself by going on OnlyFans.
02:55:54.540
Dude, we're all here in the game of social media entertainment.
02:56:25.500
I think it's the parents' faults for men slash women having a high...
02:56:31.800
I get younger people want to have fun, but any girl says that she wishes she had a lower
02:56:40.260
When I found the one, I did not wish for a smaller body count.
02:56:43.620
I was glad I had the experiences I had to give me an educated decision on if this was
02:56:49.820
I don't know if this is like too prodding, but has anyone here ever gotten STD?
02:56:56.640
I think STDs are a thing that happens when you have a lot of sexual partners.
02:57:01.780
You don't even have to have a lot of sexual partners.
02:57:09.600
You can get that shit on the first time having sex.
02:57:19.060
You can get an STD the very first time you have sex.
02:57:22.000
It doesn't matter how many times you have sex, how many body counts you have.
02:57:34.820
Let me just adjust that really quick and then I'll have you go on.
02:57:44.940
Just like the first time you have sex, you can also get pregnant.
02:57:48.240
Yes, but we're talking about probability, not possibility.
02:57:58.560
Someone who sleeps with someone one time or someone who's slept...
02:58:11.140
I mean, obviously it's going to depend on safety.
02:58:13.280
If I had raw sex with you, I am way more likely to get an STD with you who probably
02:58:17.400
doesn't get tested all the time versus me who gets tested every 7 to 10 days, right?
02:58:21.800
Because that's my profession, so I have to get tested frequently.
02:58:25.580
Honestly, even statistically, if you have raw sex with someone one time, you're less
02:58:30.880
likely to get an STD than if you have sex with...
02:58:38.400
It also takes women a longer time to find out if they have an STD, depending on the STD
02:58:57.900
You're trying to say that if I have a high body count, I am more likely to get an STD.
02:59:02.960
Yeah, but I'm also a grown-ass woman, and as I age and I have more sexual experiences,
02:59:08.680
I am simply just going to continually have more sex with people, and it's my right as
02:59:21.120
Sometimes the people will get an STD, but as long as we are educated on these topics and
02:59:25.940
the stigma is removed from it, we're able to have better conversations on making sure
02:59:29.640
that these issues aren't permanent issues, right?
02:59:32.740
Okay, so the reason I bring up STDs is because if a girl were to get...
02:59:38.680
Herpes, for example, I don't suspect she would be so quick to defend promiscuity or defend
02:59:50.400
If you're promiscuous, you're more likely to get an STD.
02:59:53.000
Okay, but just because a girl has herpes doesn't mean that she's going to tell all the girls
02:59:57.520
in her life to be a nun and not partake in any sexual activity.
03:00:01.060
It's unfortunate that she has herpes, but that in no way should dictate the way other
03:00:10.080
I think ultimately the better conversation is how often does one get tested?
03:00:19.960
It wouldn't matter if I fucked a bunch of guys if I got tested tomorrow and then I was
03:00:30.600
I should have addressed it at the beginning of the fucking show.
03:00:33.320
Way more insane conversations talking to civilian men who don't do porn, asking when was the
03:00:38.740
last time they got tested, and realizing that most of you men don't get tested.
03:00:42.880
I don't want to fuck a guy with a body count of 10 who has never gotten tested his whole
03:00:48.460
life versus a porn star who got tested seven days ago.
03:00:52.260
It's more so a matter of how sexually responsible and educated are you.
03:00:56.780
Like, as a porn star, we have to get tested every 14 days max.
03:01:02.500
How long does it take for those test results to come back and then like...
03:01:09.940
I got tested today, and I'm getting my results back tomorrow.
03:01:14.820
I mean, most people are not in the sex work industry.
03:01:18.780
And most people engaging in hookup culture and who...
03:01:23.420
You don't need to be a sex worker to have a high body count.
03:01:26.540
But even when I was a person that was just a slutty girl in college, I still got tested
03:01:31.120
every time I introduced a new partner in my life, which is something that...
03:01:49.180
I was a slut and I've been a slut, but what mattered was that I was a safe and ethical
03:01:54.300
Are you saying that you don't get tested every time you have a new sexual partner?
03:02:01.740
I've gone on dates with guys before getting fucked, before getting tested.
03:02:05.640
And if I wasn't able to get tested with them before, then I would get tested like right
03:02:15.880
Well, that wouldn't preclude you from contracting an STD, but most...
03:02:21.600
Do you think that most people that hook up, in each instance that they do hook up, are
03:02:29.400
Are you saying that you don't get frequently tested?
03:02:33.120
I get tested, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.
03:02:36.340
In general, when it comes to hook up culture...
03:02:37.820
The more important part, above all hook up culture, is the fact that you are sexually educated
03:02:42.700
enough to know that every time you have sex with someone, you are putting yourself at
03:02:46.620
So are you taking the right protocols to make sure that you are not keeping yourself safe
03:02:52.420
And the best thing you can do about yourself is to have protected sex and to continually
03:02:58.220
Now, maybe you're not a sex worker and maybe most people in hook up culture do not do that,
03:03:21.620
...is like one of the number one party schools.
03:03:24.220
From first-hand experience and from hearing from a lot of people, and it's just kind of
03:03:29.300
almost obvious to me, most people who like will go out to a club or a bar or party, they
03:03:35.500
will spontaneously hook up with someone, did not get tested beforehand.
03:03:46.820
The reason why they don't is because they are not sexually educated enough.
03:03:52.360
Because a lot of guys are like, oh, I have to get tested?
03:03:59.120
You didn't get tested before being with a new guy.
03:04:00.640
No, I was saying usually I would if it was a plan.
03:04:03.560
Now, if I met you at a club, at a bar, first of all, I don't have...
03:04:06.180
You said you were like going through a slut phase, right?
03:04:11.180
Clearly she's saying that she gets tested like...
03:04:21.340
We are in California in a very liberal state with good sexual education.
03:04:26.640
The vast majority of people are not getting regularly tested.
03:04:36.120
And the thing is, if you do get an STD, luckily, we are in a world in America with great ways to solve it or mitigate the risk.
03:04:48.500
So if you do pop, you should know that it is, not to say fine, but it is something that is curable and it is not something that makes you dirty or evil or bad.
03:04:59.540
It is something that you are able to fix and people shouldn't treat you.
03:05:05.600
The things that I'm talking about, like gonorrhea and chlamydia, these are things you should be able to fix.
03:05:10.500
And even if you did have HIV, you should still be treated with respect and you are not a dirty, evil, bad person.
03:05:21.340
Well, I mean, sure, but it's going to impact your life.
03:05:30.160
And it's going to, honestly, if you have herpes, I assume you agree that you should disclose to a potential partner.
03:05:38.040
You're going to, a lot of people are going to, if you disclose, they're not going to want to pursue anything with you.
03:05:46.940
Okay, so dating is hard enough as it is, especially for men.
03:05:51.160
I don't think men should handicap themselves by getting herpes.
03:06:01.060
Okay, to those men, women, whatever, if you don't want to get an STD, then just practice safe sex.
03:06:13.440
If you don't want an STD, practice sex as safely as possible.
03:06:16.920
And that means going to a local clinic or your primary physician and getting tested and asking your sexual partners to do the same.
03:06:25.320
Most people in civilian life, if they do get an STD test, it's not a full panel test.
03:06:35.040
It might not pop right away, but you might be contagious, I guess is the term.
03:06:40.220
So I feel like the solution isn't not having sex at all or looking for a person who's never had sex.
03:06:48.060
Like, the solution is to just practice safe sex.
03:06:51.060
If this is something you want to continually explore, you have to just make sure that the people you're playing with are also playing safe games.
03:07:01.060
And it's something that we should preach and have a more open conversation about.
03:07:04.640
But this is one of the reasons why body count matters.
03:07:07.800
Body count doesn't matter when you're literally...
03:07:10.420
It quite literally matters when it comes to STDs.
03:07:17.260
It doesn't matter as much as the fact that you cannot tell me when was the last time you got tested versus the fact that I care.
03:07:24.460
And how many people have you fucked since then?
03:07:30.580
Because I'm selective with who I want to sleep with.
03:07:36.420
And I would much rather having sex with someone who has a test a week old versus someone like you who hasn't gotten tested since December.
03:07:45.160
You know, not to say you are, but I don't fucking like...
03:07:56.280
Okay, but promiscuity necessarily means that you're at a higher risk of getting an STD.
03:08:18.480
Do you mean safe sex is just wearing a condom because a condom...
03:08:24.400
It's making sure that your partner is getting tested.
03:08:30.700
And I understand that a lot of men believe, okay, higher body count equals a higher risk for me.
03:08:35.780
But that is not necessarily true, especially if that person has been practicing safe sex.
03:08:46.680
It was like 300 something because that's all...
03:08:52.820
Because the amount of people that I've slept with and have chosen to have a relationship sexually with,
03:09:00.780
I've made sure to be safe with all of my sexual partners.
03:09:11.680
I don't think we're going to reach an agreement here.
03:09:14.760
Well, I'll just say my point and then we're going to continue.
03:09:24.880
The more sexual partners you have, the greater likelihood of getting an STD.
03:09:30.680
The more people you sleep with, it's almost self-evident.
03:09:33.380
The more partners you have, the more people you sleep with, the greater chance, the greater risk of getting an STD.
03:09:41.080
The same way, if I'm in a log cabin all by myself, and maybe like one person comes and visits me a year,
03:09:50.760
Your chance of getting COVID, if you only encounter one person, is much lower than if you're going out to nightclubs and parties and meeting 100 people a day.
03:10:02.940
The more sexual partners you have, the more opportunity to get an STD.
03:10:07.840
Now, you can practice safe sex and you can mitigate the risk, but the risk is still there the more partners that you have.
03:10:14.000
It's fantastic that you've had as many partners as you've had and you've not caught anything.
03:10:25.680
Well, luckily, Brian, you're not fucking, so it's fine.
03:10:30.040
Just keep your body count as low as possible so you'd never get anything.
03:10:34.260
Well, I don't really follow on that one, but let's move on with these super chats.
03:10:41.620
Wait, I'm bored about talking about body count, so let's talk about something else.
03:10:49.400
Oh, whoa, that's awfully convenient for women with a higher body count.
03:11:01.980
I can't grow to 6'5", but you can control your body count.
03:11:13.960
These girls dislike probability and generalities so much that if they were told if they jumped
03:11:20.840
off this building, they have a 90% chance to die, but a 10% chance to live, they would
03:11:27.620
Well, I don't live my life by numbers, and I've been fine.
03:11:59.600
Okay, so we were talking about, I'm trying to remember what it was.
03:12:08.880
Fuck, we should have swapped it out at the start of the show.
03:12:11.720
I thought we had addressed the chair situation, but whatever.
03:12:23.460
Every time she speaks, it's to insult him because he is triggered.
03:12:34.200
Speaking of safe, Kazumi, didn't you claim to fuck with 50 men in a single night and call
03:12:48.700
It's not like they all had men, dingo, cocks, bro.
03:12:54.700
Yo, by the way, Cody, thank you for the membership, man.
03:12:57.060
Stifler asks, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
03:13:15.760
I'm going to give you the same answer I gave you last time, which is I do not participate.
03:13:25.360
I mean, I think it depends on, like, where I'm at.
03:13:27.440
You know, like, if I'm in, like, a world full of women with the same body type as me,
03:13:32.660
But if I feel like I'm around a bunch of, like, Victoria's Secret supermodels, then I'll
03:13:38.520
And if I'm around a bunch of other types of people, then I'll feel good.
03:13:48.480
It's like some, I feel like the way I rate myself is I'm a base average, you know, because
03:13:53.980
And then when I look at other people, it's either better or worse than, like, me right
03:13:57.420
But I don't think five as in, like, F for fail.
03:14:00.260
I just think, like, I'm just an average-looking woman, just coasting the world.
03:14:28.820
Sometimes I don't care what anybody else says about the way that I look.
03:14:32.220
Like, obviously, everyone cares a little bit about, like, what other people's opinions
03:14:36.220
are of them, but ultimately, when it comes down to the, like, at the end of the day,
03:14:40.780
like, I'm confident in the way that I look and the way that I present myself.
03:14:59.100
I feel like, also, everyone else has their own opinion of what a 10 is.
03:15:04.160
I'm saying 10 because I don't want, I don't leave.
03:15:06.220
Leave any room for opinion from another person.
03:15:09.820
Like, from these people, I'm not leaving room for opinion because, like, at the end
03:15:17.700
But, like, the market kind of dictates your rating.
03:15:24.540
You can't just say, like, for example, I can't just say I'm a 10 and then step into
03:15:28.820
Calvin Klein and say, yo, give me a modeling contract.
03:15:34.320
I deserve a modeling contract because I believe I'm a 10.
03:15:41.960
Someone who's a 10 has or could have a modeling contract.
03:15:48.880
Like, if I feel like, if I feel like a 10, then that confidence will speak for itself and
03:15:55.520
You know, if I feel like a 2 or whatever the fuck that means, then that insecurity is
03:16:02.220
But that your confidence doesn't undo the fact that there might be a certain symmetry to
03:16:12.980
I mean, also, like, the people, like, the world is full of different types of people that are
03:16:21.260
But I've been with people who've looked all types of ways and I thought they were all
03:16:32.760
Because that is my, what I believe, a reasonable self-assessment of my physical attractiveness.
03:16:38.880
Do you feel like you're, like, shy of, like, saying, like, oh, I'm an 8 or a 9?
03:16:45.980
Like, I genuinely, like, I've looked at myself in the face.
03:16:58.720
I mean, it's like, if you walk, if you feel like you're a 10, then you'll walk like a 10.
03:17:06.040
Look, there's a difference between confidence and thinking that you're on par with the most
03:17:13.000
I'm, if I thought I was a 10, like, I'm not as attractive as Brad Pitt was in his youth.
03:17:24.980
But I would never, I would never, okay, I've compared myself a lot, right?
03:17:30.640
It's very easy for me to fall into that mindset.
03:17:32.640
But it's, like, you deserve to be happy and confident with the way that you look.
03:17:39.220
And you shouldn't dictate, you shouldn't let society's standards dictate that for yourself.
03:17:48.640
If you feel like, if you consider yourself a 10, you'll walk like a 10.
03:17:52.440
If you consider yourself a 4, you'll walk like a 4.
03:17:55.160
Like, who, like, why would you let anyone else dictate your confidence in what you have to offer?
03:18:04.720
Me believing I'm a 10 is not going to impact an outsider's view of my physical attractiveness.
03:18:14.000
Now, I will admit that if you carry yourself in a certain way, if you're smiling a lot and you're, you know, it can make you more appealing.
03:18:26.400
And it can to some degree, like, for example, a man or a woman who's more, has a positive disposition, smiles, for example, are generally actually rated more attractive than if they were frowning, for example.
03:18:37.240
However, that, that's kind of a very minor thing, whereas, like, someone who, like, it'll give you a slight boost, but it's not going to take you from average looking to supermodel.
03:18:50.320
I mean, I've been around a lot of, first of all, so I see, I do porn.
03:18:54.320
And you would maybe assume that every person that does porn is, like, the sexiest person in the world.
03:19:01.020
There's so many different types of sexy, you know.
03:19:04.740
And I've seen people, like, run walkways and get booked for things.
03:19:08.340
And it wasn't because they were, quote, unquote, conventionally attractive.
03:19:11.720
They just had their own unique look that was sexy to somebody.
03:19:22.100
We are going to try to wrap up here pretty soon.
03:19:27.140
Eric, can you pull up all the super chats and we'll have Kazumi read them.
03:19:32.540
And you guys, don't talk too much shit about me while I get up.
03:20:35.180
Y'all need to step up your game and become real man, not Tate.
03:20:37.980
These women suffered to be in the position they are in, so grow up.
03:20:49.520
Surviving Russian roulette playing it 100 times doesn't mean the person playing was
03:20:54.660
So Tara obviously has a body count of zero because he doesn't play the game at all.
03:21:04.040
I mean, control the numbers of men you deal with.
03:21:06.880
I still don't get it, but he's tipped a lot, so I guess he really wants to make sure
03:21:16.020
Would love to hear more from Sydney and Michaela.
03:21:27.980
Guys, get your last minute super chats in here.
03:21:30.280
Okay, so I wanted to bring it back to something here.
03:21:36.340
Kind of, I guess we'll bring it back to body count really quick, and then we'll wrap up
03:21:42.620
So a lot of you, you said body count doesn't matter.
03:21:49.640
I think this is very, I think it's tough because I've been thinking about this for like the
03:21:56.880
last couple days now and trying to get like the right answer, and honestly, I can't really,
03:22:02.440
my conclusion is that I think that it does matter because I personally don't feel like
03:22:14.660
Like, I don't want to share that number, whether it's high or low, like no matter what.
03:22:20.100
Like, that's my personal business, and if I decide to be with somebody sexually and they
03:22:24.420
ask, I will be honest with them, but that's not something I'm going to like openly walk
03:22:32.880
That's why like I've never said it on this show, and I don't plan to.
03:22:37.980
I thought you said, I thought you said body count.
03:22:39.800
It does matter because it's like, that's why I'm saying.
03:22:42.040
It's like, it's confusing the way to answer it because it's like, it matters because like,
03:22:50.660
And they're going to judge you, but like it also doesn't.
03:22:55.780
I don't think that a person should be judged on their body count, and unfortunately, society
03:23:05.700
judges people based on that number, no matter if it's low or high.
03:23:12.040
That people are judged on their body count if it's low or if it's high.
03:23:26.320
And I'm also like, right now, I'm also interested in doing like, like I've thought about doing
03:23:30.040
like a year of celibacy to kind of like keep myself on track and like just.
03:23:35.300
Yeah, that's something I'm interested in, but I agree.
03:23:47.220
It's like, but I'm not like, I'm not going to give, what do you mean?
03:24:03.740
I wasn't, that's not, I suppose for some people that's a long time.
03:24:07.500
It is, it's a long time because I was in a relationship and we had sex all the time.
03:24:12.620
And it was like, whenever I wanted to, I could just have, just have sex.
03:24:17.940
I'm single and I feel, this just personally has nothing to do like with any, like everyone's
03:24:24.420
But for me, I feel like sex is such a huge energy exchange and I don't want to give my
03:24:36.260
I am starting off at four months and, or three months, I said three months.
03:24:42.660
If, if I find somebody who like I actually feel, you know, deserves, I guess, or like
03:24:51.820
who I want to have sex with, then like I'll break that.
03:24:56.640
Like I just really want to take the time to focus on myself and I have some things that
03:25:00.920
I need to like work on to become a better person.
03:25:05.440
Uh, no strings attached unless I'm pretty sure we got your super chat.
03:25:15.240
So I don't know if you missed that, but unless we missed a different one, um, you'll have
03:25:19.120
to let us know if it was the 300 K one, Sydney, you're celibate for how long?
03:25:22.880
Um, yeah, no, honestly, I kind of, like I thought about doing like this year of celibacy, but
03:25:27.600
I do like the idea of just being celibate until I do find someone that I want to be with.
03:25:33.500
I'm not necessarily looking for a relationship right now, but I don't know, like having sex
03:25:39.880
is an intimate thing and it always kind of leaves me feeling unfulfilled at the end because
03:25:47.260
So I'm kind of just waiting for that emotional connection.
03:25:55.460
I mean, I just, I just don't like the feeling like I am in college, you know, I'm 22.
03:25:58.460
I don't like the feeling like at UCSB, like everybody is sex, sex, sex.
03:26:02.700
And I don't like the feeling of just like a, like 15 minute, like hookup and then they
03:26:10.660
And I'd rather wait until I could have that, like, you know, I don't know, not necessarily
03:26:18.460
like a boyfriend, but I'm just kind of figuring it out right now.
03:26:27.480
It must've been when I went up to go to the bathroom.
03:26:47.740
If men all stopped watching porn tomorrow, the whole industry would collapse.
03:26:53.460
Kazumi, you are bugging if you think they pay because they want to support your art.
03:26:56.580
Trust me, men would not pay if they were slaying.
03:27:05.020
The thing is, is just to really touch on that quickly.
03:27:08.540
If men were, were getting women, they would not be consuming OnlyFans at the rate that
03:27:19.380
We already discussed it, but you mentioned it again.
03:27:24.340
If I think it's the parents' faults for men, women.
03:27:27.880
We did this one, but I also think that you, that like the point was skipped over.
03:27:32.660
Like, like it was, you guys went and talked about body count, but you didn't talk about
03:27:36.800
like the quiet, the point he's trying to make is he thinks that it's the parents' fault
03:27:46.640
And we'll, I mean, when you grow up and we talked about it a little, a little bit,
03:27:52.320
When you have, um, parents or when you have parents that are maybe single parents or they
03:28:02.440
are very much more open to their sexuality than, you know, most people are, most parents
03:28:10.760
Like, uh, the child could grow up thinking about sex differently.
03:28:13.900
I don't think the parents have anything to do with it because I came from a really Catholic
03:28:19.220
household where sex was like literally talking about the devil.
03:28:24.360
So, you know, I don't, I don't think the environment that you're raised in has anything to do with
03:28:29.740
Well, but like also, cause I, I get where you're coming, like, I understand where you're coming
03:28:35.660
And I also have a friend who was told that, you know, same thing, sex is this, this, and
03:28:41.080
you want to like not have sex with and whatever.
03:28:44.480
And, um, because of that, it was like, they were kind of even more tempted as opposed to
03:28:51.200
being in a, in a family that's neutral on it or doesn't like shame you about it.
03:28:56.400
And then you grow up and you just have your own opinion on what sex is to you.
03:29:02.640
I think that as parents, well, as children, you know, you, as a, as someone, oh my God,
03:29:09.800
When you are being raised in a household, your parents will obviously project and install
03:29:16.640
But ultimately I do think that it is up to you as an individual, whether you carry those
03:29:21.080
values with you into adulthood or if you exercise them in your everyday life.
03:29:26.140
So, you know, maybe somebody comes from a single parent home.
03:29:30.000
My parents, my parents have, have always been married, never divorced.
03:29:32.880
Um, you know, different situations, that's just a value I chose to not live with myself
03:29:38.300
because it felt very like not me, you know what I mean?
03:29:41.040
So I think, so I think it really is just up to the individual and how they carry themselves
03:29:44.360
and what they, what values they deem, what values they decide to carry into their life.
03:29:50.280
Did you, did like when you were, when would you say you, cause I, up to a certain age,
03:29:57.980
you like believed everything that your parents said.
03:30:01.180
And so how old do you think that you were when you started to form your own values and
03:30:09.140
And then can I ask you when you lost your virginity or when you like started to.
03:30:15.240
The most I had ever, I still didn't really do anything like that.
03:30:19.800
I mostly, my opinions are mostly about like God and how I just really don't believe in
03:30:24.980
Uh, but most of the sexual activity that I had has actually been in like the last year or
03:30:36.480
So we need to just touch on a few things here before, uh, we wrap up.
03:30:49.140
He said Psy control Psy control in a chat earlier.
03:31:01.960
So I meant to bring this up sooner, but we, we kind of got into a heated moment there and
03:31:13.200
So Kazumi, you, you mentioned Tate and you mentioned quite a few buzzwords.
03:31:17.820
One of the words you mentioned was the patriarchy.
03:31:22.100
So, um, what, what is your sense of the patriarchy?
03:31:27.120
I think it is a system, um, created by men, you know, not necessarily purposely, but, you
03:31:35.160
know, throughout time, throughout history that is meant to necessarily serve you guys
03:31:39.980
and prioritize and give you guys more, uh, more of a privileged leg up in the world.
03:31:50.140
Well, I mean, the, the common one that I hear is it's a system of society or government
03:31:55.160
in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.
03:32:07.720
So you feel like you and I are like equals right now.
03:32:14.220
Well, in terms of rights and privileges, I w I would say we are equals.
03:32:18.300
In fact, I would say, I would say women have certain rights and privileges that men don't.
03:32:25.820
Well, for example, in the court system, you, there's, uh, women are more likely to receive
03:32:34.780
The court system throughout this country is a system and that system oppresses men because
03:32:40.440
men are not awarded custody of their children, children at similar rates to women.
03:32:45.060
Men are deprived of their children in this country and in most Western countries and actually
03:32:59.420
I don't see how that's like, what do you feel like my life is easier?
03:33:04.180
I think in some ways men have benefits and I think in some ways women have benefits,
03:33:12.980
No, I, I mean, well, I, if I wanted to be taken seriously in certain places, I feel
03:33:19.960
You know, I feel like it's really hard to navigate the world sometimes as a woman, because there's
03:33:24.040
always, almost always like a sexual intonation with everything I do.
03:33:27.960
Obviously I put myself in a position by being a sex worker.
03:33:32.560
And then before that, but even before I was a sex worker, I was always sexualized, whether
03:33:36.860
I was, worked at Shake Shack or when I was an office girl or when I was in college or
03:33:41.100
when I, when I was a child, regardless, regardless if it was consensual or not, people always
03:33:47.060
So of course, right now I am going to profit off of it because it's my choice, right?
03:33:51.100
But whether it was my choice or not, that has always been a thing that has happened
03:33:55.460
And it's something that I'm sure a lot of other women can agree with.
03:33:57.840
Would you, would you prefer it that you were not sexualized the way you are?
03:34:03.760
Because I mean, at this point I monetize off of it, right?
03:34:07.300
So that's what I'm, I enjoy it now, but there was a period in my life where I did not enjoy
03:34:11.240
it because I had different goals and I wanted to do different things.
03:34:14.020
But can I also, I'll, I'll let you come in in just a sec.
03:34:20.220
However, if we were to do away with this sort of one, in the sense that women get this and
03:34:27.180
men really don't, you would actually be out of a career right now.
03:34:33.560
I'm saying, well, this is the, you know, there's a difference between choice, right?
03:34:36.420
So I am choosing to put myself, make myself a sex worker and become an object of sexual desire
03:34:41.100
when it was not my choice and that was not my job.
03:34:49.460
But let's say if I had a different, if I had different goals and I wanted to do different
03:34:54.120
things, like for example, what she said, you know, she wants to get into acting and I don't
03:34:57.520
necessarily always want to be sexualized despite the fact that I am a woman.
03:35:01.420
Then honestly, maybe being a man would be easier.
03:35:03.720
So that way I could navigate things without having to worry about the fact that sometimes my opportunities
03:35:08.000
come to me based off the fact, off of my own fuckability.
03:35:11.460
And actually I, maybe I just want to do things based off my skillset.
03:35:16.260
Like maybe I would want to be a man for certain reasons.
03:35:19.180
So I'm, I see where, I see where you're going and I don't disagree with you that women tend
03:35:26.700
I think men to some degree are sexualized also.
03:35:29.260
And I think men are, women are viewed as sex objects and men are viewed as success objects.
03:35:44.100
Well, you, you've heard this term, you've, you've heard this term sex object, right?
03:35:49.320
And women will say, well, we're viewed as sex objects.
03:35:52.940
Perhaps that's true, but it's also true that men are viewed as success objects.
03:36:07.160
But I think women can also be judged on how successful they are.
03:36:11.800
It's well, yes, but it has a greater impact on men in terms of your success.
03:36:20.680
I think if you look at a, in terms, in terms of your ability to attract a mate, do you think
03:36:29.040
a guy's primary concern with you is how much money you make?
03:36:32.700
Do you think that's most men's primary thing they look for in a partner is how much money
03:36:37.760
But then, but then it, I don't want to stay too long on, on that because I want to bring
03:36:43.860
I don't, first of all, I think there are things that may, there are, there are parts of our society
03:36:48.180
where I guess it's easier to navigate as a man and easier to navigate as a female.
03:36:58.280
If we look across the board and look at like world leaders and people who are in positions
03:37:05.020
Generally speaking, I think there are more, there are more politicians and more CEOs who
03:37:17.100
If there are more men in power, then yes, they're men.
03:37:19.600
So I do feel like we are in a systemic place where most decisions are placed by men.
03:37:24.720
And obviously I feel like they are usually favoring men.
03:37:28.100
You can agree or disagree, but if there are, that's fine.
03:37:33.140
But if there was more women in power, then I'm sure there would be different decisions
03:37:38.320
If we talk about, first of all, our rights as women and our bodies, then yeah, I do feel
03:37:42.880
like there are, there are many multitudes of reasons where I feel like men are able to
03:37:48.520
get into positions of power easier and are able to make decisions that affect all of us,
03:37:59.080
You talked about rights, women's rights, when it comes to, right, I'm assuming you're talking
03:38:08.100
There are more men in the higher positions of power, politicians, CEOs.
03:38:19.600
Well, I suppose it depends which form of entertainment.
03:38:23.000
Yeah, but most mainstream media is controlled by men.
03:38:29.780
If men are at the top of, top of the pyramid, right?
03:38:36.380
The patriarchy posits that it's a society built by men for men.
03:38:45.100
Society certainly was built by men, but it wasn't for the benefit of men.
03:38:54.120
There's not some cabal of men that got together that have all the power and said, we want to
03:39:08.940
People with power want to continue having power.
03:39:11.800
I think if we look historically at the fact that, okay, like, for example, like women,
03:39:17.020
women over a century ago were finally given the ability to vote, right?
03:39:21.860
If we look at historically, women historically have not been able to create the roots of being
03:39:32.440
We should have swapped it at the fucking beginning.
03:39:35.040
If women were able to, let's say, vote the whole time, right, and they were able to have
03:39:44.340
the same opportunities as men 300, 400 years ago, like, for example, when the U.S. was founded.
03:39:49.720
No, I'm just saying like an arbitrary number of years ago, right?
03:39:52.380
Like, let's say like all parts of all governments in all parts of the world were like able to
03:39:58.880
give women this exact same opportunities to make decisions for everyone else as men are.
03:40:06.380
Women are only recently able to do many things, the same things as men.
03:40:32.600
Men have made the majority of choices, but it's not, they didn't make the choices for
03:40:38.100
By the way, there have been queens who are monarchs and whatnot.
03:40:43.060
Since we're talking about generalities, we're talking about men.
03:40:46.240
Men, but it doesn't mean that, it doesn't mean that they, they have somehow.
03:40:52.840
It doesn't mean, just because men were in power doesn't mean that they oppressed women.
03:40:57.340
It doesn't mean that they made laws to benefit men at, and at the expense of women.
03:41:04.580
So why weren't women able to vote for such a long time?
03:41:10.560
Well, why weren't they able to vote the same time as you?
03:41:12.660
Before there was voting, it was tyrants and kings and monarchs and dictators.
03:41:23.740
I think you're like pretending to be dense about the point.
03:41:30.940
How long do you think all men have had the right to vote?
03:41:38.580
And honestly, this is such a, this conversation is like, you understand what I'm saying.
03:41:43.240
And I'm pretty sure they understand what I'm saying.
03:41:45.480
It's really clear that for most of history, men have had power.
03:41:50.360
Men, of course, have had the ability to really benefit people that were just like them, which are usually utter men.
03:42:04.360
It is absolutely irrelevant because this is focused on power and not on...
03:42:22.580
A very small minority of men throughout all human history had power.
03:42:30.480
Yes, they happened to be men, but they didn't set up society for the benefit of men.
03:42:36.880
Okay, we're not saying that they purposely went out of their way to create a society where women are in a position to fail.
03:42:44.580
The powerful only aim to make themselves more powerful, and the fact of the matter is that it was mostly men.
03:42:50.920
It's not really like they were making decisions with women in mind because there were no women around.
03:43:01.840
So for the vast majority of human history, nobody had the right to vote.
03:43:08.220
During the ancient Greek and Roman history, people were voting, and they were men.
03:43:15.900
Are you talking about like the Senate and the Congress?
03:43:27.640
Because women fought for their rights to do that.
03:43:30.720
If men wanted to hold power, and men had all the power, then why would they have allowed women the right to vote?
03:43:41.140
It was men that granted women the right to vote.
03:43:49.700
I just said it was the right thing to do to give women the vote.
03:43:54.680
But before that, men granted women the power to vote.
03:44:02.020
But I don't think you realize how different society was 100, 200 years ago.
03:44:11.260
So, Eric, if you can find in the infographics chart, there's a voting one.
03:44:17.600
So, the reason that men widely got the right to vote before women...
03:44:28.700
So, men got the right to vote before women because men were subject to military conscription.
03:44:37.360
If you elected a representative to represent you in the government, that representative could then vote to send you to war.
03:44:46.260
Men, being the exclusive, let's say, victims of forced military conscription, ought to have more of a right and a say.
03:44:59.760
And that privilege came with a corresponding responsibility.
03:45:03.100
That corresponding responsibility was, you have to go to France and die in the trenches.
03:45:12.200
You have to go get chemical gas by the Germans.
03:45:17.840
That's how men got the right to vote before women.
03:45:26.540
You think there were female soldiers in World War I?
03:45:29.740
I think that there were female workers aiding the military during war.
03:45:42.560
What I'm saying is that, what I'm saying is that, like, women were still a part of that, still a part of that process.
03:45:48.740
Even if they weren't out there fighting, which they could have been, they could have been out there fighting, you know, but they were oftentimes not.
03:46:09.080
Do you think that there were women in Ardennes, the Ardennes Forest?
03:46:19.360
Let's finish up this point, and then we're going to wrap.
03:46:21.360
So, okay, there were almost, besides there might have been, like, a very small Russian contingent of female soldiers.
03:46:32.180
It might have been, like, a thousand women in Russia.
03:46:40.500
There's probably a universe where there were women who were soldiers.
03:46:55.480
Okay, 1914 to 1918 is when World War I occurred.
03:47:04.200
Women's suffrage occurred conveniently after World War I.
03:47:09.640
Women secured the right to vote after one of the deadliest wars that had ever occurred in human history.
03:47:15.280
And women were able to secure the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility
03:47:20.100
because women, still to this day, are not subject to forced military conscription and the draft.
03:47:26.380
Didn't most of the women who stayed back home make up the majority of the workforce,
03:47:29.620
causing the economy to still continue, even though the men were away, and step up?
03:47:35.540
Women absolutely contributed to the war effort.
03:47:38.180
However, their contribution pales in comparison to the sacrifices that men made on the front.
03:47:48.600
So you're saying that a bunch of women had to have also died in order to have been treated with the same respect as men?
03:47:55.500
I don't think it's great that all those, you know, all those men died and like, you know, all that stuff.
03:48:00.620
But what I'm saying is like, it doesn't, like, I don't really understand.
03:48:04.880
And I don't think, I don't understand what the point that you're trying to get across because the reality is really simple.
03:48:13.880
Men have had most of the power and women have had to fight for it.
03:48:21.440
It's not because men are malicious towards women and wanted to put us down.
03:48:28.160
But we were talking about the right to vote and the way that men got the right to vote broadly.
03:48:35.140
Was because they were a part of the military and that, yes, we've heard you.
03:48:37.800
Because men were subject to military conscription.
03:48:43.020
Women were granted the right to vote conveniently after one of the most brutal wars that humanity has ever seen.
03:48:50.100
However, they were able, women were able to secure the vote without the corresponding responsibility.
03:48:56.720
Women, to this day, in 2023, are not subject to military conscription in the USA.
03:49:07.920
I thought that women were a part of the draft in 2019 or 2020.
03:49:13.860
Women can join the military, but if a war were to break out, women would not be subject to the draft.
03:49:19.400
Women would not be in the draft because we have to produce.
03:49:25.960
Like, that's just how the cards played out then, I guess.
03:49:34.520
Eric, can you go into, and I do need to pull up that infographics tab.
03:49:42.040
Eric, just in the infograph, actually, fuck, I don't know if it's in the documents.
03:49:45.580
Oh, what do you, oh, shit, you're going to have to, can you fix that?
03:50:01.160
So, oh, this is the chart I was going to show you.
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So, this is in the U.K., so not the U.S., but the U.S. is pretty similar to this.
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So, if you look at the bottom there, men and women, men is the blue, women is the pink.
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So, in the 1600s to the 1700s, men, a very small percentage of men did have the vote.
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And then, as you see, it kind of gets into the 1800s, a bit more men have the right to vote.
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And then, in the early 1900s, that's when it just totally equalizes, and there's equality.
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So, over the course of history, both men and women were oppressed.
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Both men and women did not have the right to vote.
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The reason men got the right to vote is because, once again, is because we were subject to military conscription.
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And we are subject to military conscription to this day.
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But, here, we'll put it right here so the girls can see.
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And on the front, you see it says, men 18 to 25 years old.
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So, there are women, there are women in Congress.
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It doesn't matter because that's a small minority of men that have power and women who have power.
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It's generally men who have this power and who decide I should do this.
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Like, I will not disagree with you, but women are also oppressed.
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The system is flawed and it truly doesn't benefit anyone other than like the top 1% people of the world.
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The government agency that controls the draft registration is called the Selective Service System.
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You don't see feminists in the street protesting for women to be drafted.
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I don't see a lot of men protesting in the street against the overturn of Roe versus Wade.
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Well, men don't have any reproductive rights to begin with.
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But we are women and you interact with us every single day.
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And I'm just saying like, okay, then add women to the draft, bro.
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But like, we as civilian people do not have that power because that power is ultimately held by people in a certain group.
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And, you know, if more people were like, okay, like, let's add women to the draft, like, then do that.
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I don't, like, I don't understand the point trying to be made here.
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The system is flawed and works for no one except for a select group of people.
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And that's facts, whether you're a man or a woman.
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Well, the only reason I bring it up is because you guys used women's inability at a period of time in history that they weren't able to vote.
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And I was trying to explain to you why men got that privilege before women did.
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However, women were able to secure the privilege of voting without the corresponding responsibility and duty, which men to this day still have.
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So, you're agreeing that there is an inequality there.
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Regardless of what it is, there is an inequality there.
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I mean, honestly, if women would have been subject to the draft in 1914, I don't suspect a lot of them would have been vying for the right to vote in 1914.
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Well, we don't know how that, that didn't happen, so we don't know how that would have played out.
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Do you think that there are more women nowadays that, like, how do I put this?
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Like, for instance, that you guys are speaking out, like, sharing your views about feminism and voting and all the things, but there are plenty of women that don't want that right, that don't, that think that, that still think in those, like, you know, the mom, the woman should stay home and be the wife and cook and clean and take care of the kids.
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Like, there are those, that's, there, those people still exist.
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And they just don't have, they choose not to speak because that isn't, does that make sense?
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Also, I don't mean to interrupt your phone, but it's about to be 1130.
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Let me do these last two Super Chats and then we'll wrap.
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Anyway, men should stop watching corn and do like Kazumi said, all stream touch grass.
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But no lie, it is sad that we live in a world where a very smart woman like Kazumi decides to do corn.
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Men and women have struggled through immensely difficult obstacles throughout history to bring about comfort of modern society.
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I think, yeah, I mean, just really quick to just address that.
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I think both men and women have each, we've each had our own struggles and difficulties.
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And I think trying to view the relationship between men and women as oppressor and oppressed,
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I just, I think men and women fundamentally throughout all of history have cooperated with each other.
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Life was certainly in the past a very difficult thing.
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We don't have, we take some of the modern comforts that we have today for granted.
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And I think men and women fundamentally cooperated throughout history.
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And I think it's an unfortunate, it's an unfortunate view that we've basically pitted the sexes against each other by purporting that men as a class have oppressed women as a class.
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And I think it teaches women to have contempt for men.
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Well, anyways, I, we don't, I'll get these last two super chats.
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Andrew Tate is about to, is about to, is the no strings attached like two puppets, like just talking?
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Like the girl said, he changed his will to give money to men falsely accused of R.
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This is very dangerous for a woman because the Tate fans will blame feminism.
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I know we had a couple of heated moments there, but it was, I thought there was a fun little
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