Dating Talk #56
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Summary
In this episode, we have our first guest on the show, Briana! Briana is an 18 year old college student living in Los Angeles, California. She is studying to get her personal certification and nutrition certification, and her mission is to help people become a better version of themselves so they can live a better life.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, ha il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Il piume al vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So, please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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And before you start, just move your microphone over a little bit.
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I also go to school for business and marketing.
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I'm studying to get my personal certification and nutritionist certification, and my mission
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for living is to help people become a little bit better than they were yesterday.
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I'm rowing gently down the creek of this life I'm living flowing.
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And everything you thought you knew about life erased.
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It is time to change our lives and start a new beginning.
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Life ain't about that new watch, stack of cash, or stolen bins.
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It's about family, love, happiness, couple kids.
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Gotta help them, not just watch them when they're growing up.
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They will be what's left of you when it's time to rise above.
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Know your role so they don't live their whole life feeling stuck.
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It's like people that are scouting for musicians.
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So, current relationship status, longest relationship, and yeah.
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Also, just, I need you to move your microphone that way because the microphone is like blocking
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And it's the longest relationship I've been in, about four years.
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Longest relationship I was in was a year, I believe.
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And I think this is the longest relationship I've been in, almost a year, in April.
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By the way, did you two say what you're studying?
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The longest relationship I've been in has been nine months.
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And the longest relationship I've been in was like three and a half-ish years.
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And how long were you dating him before you got married?
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So, total time together is like about a year and a half-ish.
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I am in a relationship, and my longest relationship was six years.
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Um, and the relationship I'm in now, it's been like a year and a half.
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I'm single, and the longest relationship that I've been in is a year and a half.
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I'm going to butcher all your names, I'm sure, by the end of the night.
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Uh, I, I looked at some of your guys' Instagrams, and Kaylin, I noticed you have a lizard.
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I kind of pegged you as, well, not in that way.
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Like, you know how there's snake people, and there's, like, dog people and cat people?
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Like, reptile, like, what is it, a monitor lizard or some shit?
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I feel like lizard people are cool, but watch out for snake people.
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So, I want to start this show off with an easy question.
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Let's say, like, you, who, first off, who here is on a, has been or is on a dating app?
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Let's say you match with a guy on a dating app.
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You meet up with him on the date, and he's wearing, hold on.
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This one particular, this is kind of like a very, it's like a, how would you explain
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Like, if I would ask him, be like, what's up with the fanny pack?
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I wouldn't just be like, no, and screw him over.
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I mean, if he's got shit to hold, then keep it.
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I mean, I'm not a fan of the fanny pack, I guess.
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What kind of things does he need to put in there?
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I wouldn't, like, completely just, like, let him go, you know.
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Hide everything until, like, the third date, maybe.
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I think, I don't think I'd be totally judgmental, but I think I would definitely have, like,
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If he was meaning it as, like, a joke, then I'd be, like, fine, whatever, but.
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Your husband just starts wearing, like, a pink floral fanny pack.
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Is the fanny pack the man in the room with us right now?
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Listen, sometimes you need a couple extra pockets.
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So your husband, your husband just starts wearing pink flanny packs.
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I would tell him to take them off and hide them or throw them away.
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Of course I would not divorce my husband for that.
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But it's a conversation I would definitely be having.
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And if it's like, I don't know, it's a conversation.
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And thankfully the man respects me that he would listen to my opinion.
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But if it's something he starts doing, maybe, I don't know, not a pink one.
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You're straight, so I don't suspect you'd be dating a man who wears a fanny pack.
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No, I think that would scare me if he has a gun randomly on him.
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Is this still the question of like a first date and he has a gun?
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It might seem like they're more smart or like educated with a satchel.
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Um, so, we only have two, I think two single people here.
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Because relationship, married, dating a guy, relationship.
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Actually, let's, uh, just get these super chats really quick.
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By the way, that's why everyone turns in to the stream week after week to know women's opinions on men wearing fanny packs and satchels.
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All super chats will be displayed in the stream overlay.
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So, uh, we'll start with this one really quick.
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Uh, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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But you can, you can be pretty without being a 10.
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But I feel like rating yourself is kind of like, in my head, kind of bullshit.
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You can rate yourself a 10 as long as you want.
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But in reality, the, it's results that get you what your rate is.
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So, one of the reasons I give myself an 8 is because I don't necessarily think I'm necessarily ugly.
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I also don't think I'm kind of like useless as a person either.
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He just kind of like sits on their butt and plays video games all day.
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If we're talking just looks, I keep up with myself.
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Sorry that I'm being myself a 10 and that bothers you.
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Well, I think, Anae, you said you respect yourself, but I mean, I respect myself too and I rate
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I definitely don't think I'm up there, but I respect myself and I, you know, accept myself,
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I don't think I look like Tina, but no, I'm still gonna root myself a 10.
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I mean, I have my flaws, of course, but I think it's about confidence.
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In reality, when a man rapes you honestly on your looks, you call us insecure and get hurt.
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None of you ladies are 10s, especially the delusional nanny.
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I think that people thinking, like, if you're a 10, you're on Vogue, I think that's kind
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of dumb because not everyone who is on Vogue is absolutely gorgeous.
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It's just they're, you know, rich enough and famous enough to be on there.
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And I also think that, like, rating ourselves is kind of not beneficial because, I mean,
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I'm a Christian so I think that we are made in God's image and so therefore we are, he
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It doesn't make us perfect but we're still all beautiful in our own ways.
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I wouldn't say, I mean, no, I wouldn't say they're 10s.
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If to be a 10 you have to be absolutely perfect, then I would say that no one can technically
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Well, we're arguing semantics right now but 10 is, like, approaching exceptionally attractive.
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Let's remove perfect from this conversation but a 10 would be someone that is exceptionally
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attractive and either has or could have, say, a modeling contract.
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Can you help me understand why you said you're a 10?
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I mean, I already told you guys I'm going to rate myself a 10.
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And I think it would be silly of me to rate myself anything lower because that's just
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Like, I don't know why you guys are so bothered by that.
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Well, we don't think you're a 10, then I don't know.
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We're trying to understand kind of the thought process of rating yourself a 10.
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And I'm telling you, I look in the mirror and I say, wow, I'm beautiful.
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And I'm not going to have you guys tell me that I'm not.
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I'm not a 10 to the eyes of the people in the chat.
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But the context of the question is, I suppose anyone could say or claim that they're a 10.
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Anyone could claim they're a 10, but it's about reality.
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So you can't really dictate your own, how other people view you.
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But how other people view you is going to be very different.
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But the thing is, is that I know the market dictates my value as far as, like, what I would rate myself.
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So the reason why I'm rating myself an 8 is because I've been told that by other females.
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But for me personally, if I was walking into a club or a bar with a person who in everybody's eyes is a 10 and I'm not a 10,
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they're going to get the most attention, not me.
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So if somebody prettier than you is with you in a public place, the results are they're going to get more guys hitting on them.
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But that still isn't going to change my answer.
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It's about, you know, feeling good in yourself, feeling good in your own body because this is the only body we have.
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I don't know what else you guys want me to say because I'm going to stay by that.
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Wouldn't the true confident thing to be to just acknowledge that you're not a 10 and being humble?
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No, because you want me to say that and I'm not going to.
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Yeah, and I'm telling you, I want, I believe I'm beautiful.
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Why can't, why are me and Thomas and Eric over there?
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You can feel like a 10th, but it's about how you are seen and how attractive you are.
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Like I said the last time Bangs was on, if you are fat, you are less attractive than
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I don't think being, having like a little extra fat on your body makes you less attractive.
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Saying that just because somebody is fat makes them less attractive.
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Also to define yourself as a 10th subjectively doesn't change objective reality.
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So you were saying that something about, oh, oh, Martin.
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The more you share off kilter opinions, the more people respond unfavorably to you.
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You don't really believe the bankrupt perspectives you espouse.
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You were saying that something about women who have a couple extra pounds on them.
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Is there like a limit to like the weight that makes them less attractive?
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Like we live in a society where Lizzo is really overweight and people think that she's a 10.
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I go outside and honestly like I see like 10 beautiful girls.
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I see like a fine man like every two and a half years if I'm going to be honest.
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I go outside and I see beautiful women everywhere.
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I mean this is a this is kind of interesting so not all men are 10s but all women are 10s.
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If the roles were reversed they'd call them misogynistic but you can say that and it's okay.
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So you see a good looking man how often every two years?
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This is impossible to realize women are this delusional.
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Beauty in the eye of the beholder is for poor people and lack of character of S.I.M.P. folk.
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By the way, cheeks, I think you got to change your name to, well, you don't have to do anything,
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but you should consider changing your name to your actual name because you got a good name.
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Anyways, so not all guys are 10, but all women are 10.
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Brian, well, I don't know if you want me to answer that.
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I don't think you're a 10, but I do think you are attractive.
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I wouldn't say that you're ugly because you're not.
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Yeah, but the satchel is throwing me off guard.
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Okay, if he doesn't want me to rate him, I'm not going to.
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Okay, the thing is, um, I'm, I'm like, you know, if you, you think you're high, that's
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good, but I'm not going to say that you're like the most attractive man, but you're not
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No, I think you're like a seven or a six or something around there.
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Nanny, you have an of on your Instagram care to explain you strong woman you.
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Yes, I do have an OF, but I don't post anything naked.
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Um, kind of just got a lot of people asking me for it after I caught that on the show the
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Um, so I was like, might as well, um, make some money off of it.
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Wait, did people, how many people subbed to your own?
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But I'm not posting anything like bad on there.
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Can, yo, chat, can you guys do the math for me?
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How much money did you guys spend on her OnlyFans?
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I didn't really like, I got a bunch of messages and stuff.
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I think some people were a little disappointed because they were expecting a little bit more.
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Things you can stop capping about not having a prejudice against men.
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You started last show with, I don't listen to men.
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You give the benefit of doubt to women, but will never show the same to men around you.
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I don't, I don't know why you guys want me to listen to, I'm so sorry.
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You want me to listen to, like, all of my boyfriend or something.
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Hey, Cameron, thank you so much for your patronage, man.
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Thank you for using Streamlabs, by the way, so that, uh, YouTube doesn't take their cut.
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But, um, so, okay, I want to wrap up the 10 thing really quick.
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I'm not saying that to be mean, but you're not a 10.
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I'm not going to, I'm not even going to rate you, but, uh, I'll just say that you're not
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What, uh, what are you down to revise your answer?
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Is there a difference in your rating with makeup, without makeup?
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No, I told you, Brian, it's all about confidence.
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Why would I do any, why would I, I don't know what you want me to do.
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I spent, I like spent so much money at Ulta the other day getting a bunch of skincare products.
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They like recalled a bunch of products a few months ago.
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Yeah, like bleach and stuff and like on your face.
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So tell me nanny and all you girls listen when you are on your deathbed.
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If you had no parents or husband or children who will be there, what would your life amount
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What makes you think I'm not going to have no parents, no husband, no children?
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Also, you're hiding behind the microphone like this.
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What is the most extravagant slash expensive gift that you've ever received for Valentine's
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It's just, you know, the average chocolates, if that's what he gets, flowers and dinner.
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I don't ask for anything, nor do I expect anything.
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I didn't really do anything for Valentine's Day.
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Eric, you're not going to be a 10 anymore if you do that.
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I was out of state visiting my sister, so I didn't do anything.
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But the most extravagant gift, it wasn't expensive, but it did take a lot of time and effort, and I had a lot of value behind it, and I really appreciated it.
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And my ex-boyfriend made me for Valentine's Day.
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Like, we would always eat Jolly Ranchers together.
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He made Jolly Rancher flowers, and he made a bouquet out of them.
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I did have a Valentine, but because my boyfriend and I are long distance, we did it the weekend before.
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I think it's technically medium distance relationship.
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I feel like long distance, you got to hop on a plane.
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So you're taking like a three-hour drive to see your man?
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I mean, if both people want it hard enough, then it'll work.
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We did like the classic like chocolates, flowers, favorite stuff, you know?
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I did like a bag of like stuff he likes, like his favorite snacks.
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Can we get some skull emojis, candles in the chat?
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I was so heartbroken because I didn't have a Valentine, but it's okay.
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You guys said you had dinner for Valentine's, right?
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And the most extravagant gift you've ever gotten?
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I don't think anything I've gotten has been like extravagant, but I'd say like, you know,
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like the bear, like bouquets that are like flowers.
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Are we talking like jumbo size bear or like little teddy bear?
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We went to a string quartet candlelight concert, and then he took me to a fancy speakeasy afterwards.
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So, it's kind of like a more old-fashioned bar club.
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Is that the most extravagant gift you've ever received?
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So, my boyfriend and I don't celebrate Valentine's Day.
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Um, we were actually watching this podcast on Valentine's Day.
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Oh, for some reason, I thought I heard husband, for some reason.
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You and your boyfriend, you and your boyfriend were watching the whatever podcast.
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I mean, I mean, we did have a show on Valentine's Day, which was fantastic, I must admit.
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That's a good way to spend Valentine's Day is enriching me personally.
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And the most extravagant gift you've ever received?
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Before him, I, it's not that I didn't celebrate it, but I never really had anything extravagant.
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Just, like, teddy bear and flowers type of thing.
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My last question is, what have you given to your boyfriend or husband?
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What's the most extravagant thing you've ever done for them?
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Um, I bought my boyfriend flowers, like, a while ago.
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And the, I don't know, I haven't really gotten, again, Valentine's Day.
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I will literally buy them everything and anything.
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Every two and a half years, you see an attractive man.
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Let me, let me go back because to that, if I can real quick, because I don't want you guys to think that I have something against men.
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I just feel like I'm not really attracted to men too often to the point where I'm like...
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Well, have you ever, like, dated a girl, been with a girl?
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But, yeah, I don't know, maybe I'm just not that, that, that attracted to guys.
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Ryan, why do you try so hard to red-billied these modern women?
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Men in USA and Western world should make money and move to other country.
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Modern women's behavior are situational, so just don't give second change to all modern women.
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So, yeah, pretty much, Passport Bros, are we up?
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But, I don't know, honestly, like, I kind of forgot for, like, what I got him exactly for Valentine's Day.
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But I think I got him, like, a bunch of clothes that he wanted, a bunch of Ralph Lauren.
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When I like somebody, I will simp real hard for them.
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Somebody paid for my gas tank right before I got here.
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No, he was so attractive, like, super attractive.
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The men he was with were, like, they invited me to go out with them, but I was like, oh, I'm sorry.
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So you were going to flake coming on the whatever podcast to get spit-roasted by three attractive.
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Just on this topic really quick, then we'll come back to the Valentine's Day thing.
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Ladies, has something like this just ever happened to you?
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Raise your hand a little bit if this has happened to you.
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You're, like, Santa Barbara is, like, the last, I'm trying to think of the term.
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It's, like, the last defensive against Central California.
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I mean, you're technically in Santa Barbara County, but you're up there near Santa Maria
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Well, that's methamphetamine's capital of Santa Barbara.
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So, and you're getting, like, that's crazy that you're getting just randomly.
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She'd probably find you attractive if you stopped buying her stuff.
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I mean, if you want to hit my Amazon wish list.
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If anybody's some sort of nice, they get taken advantage of, and you literally just proved it.
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The guy who paid for my gas tank was so attractive.
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I don't think I would date him because he was really old, but he had a nephew, and the nephew
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I had to go house-sit and, like, all this stuff.
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You have to wear one of the fanny packs the rest of the show.
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BBC train rider bangs will end up alone because she is egotistical and dismissive of men, which
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means she feels like she leads the relationship.
00:49:24.120
Any man who associates with her has no spine nor balls.
00:49:31.600
But every 2.5 years, yo, Zentians, good to see you back in the chat, man.
00:50:02.280
I'm not sure where he got that from, but Zentians, thank you for the TTS, man.
00:50:12.560
I don't even remember what he said, to be honest.
00:50:13.980
Let me give you a little backstory on Zentians.
00:50:26.000
But I don't remember his question, to be honest.
00:50:28.180
I think Zentians, confirm or deny, do you secretly have a crush?
00:50:40.660
So right here, what is the most extravagant thing that you've given to your significant
00:51:05.560
Yeah, you're the one on the bottom to spend your hard-earned money on it.
00:51:12.140
If you want me to wear it, I'll wear it proudly.
00:51:17.160
But let me excoriate the chat really quick, and also the guys who paid for your gas.
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Whoever paid $500 to pay for Bangs' Amazon thing and her OnlyFans.
00:51:36.460
Guys, on our next raid into Onyxia's Lair, you guys are, honestly, you're benched.
00:51:41.800
You're benched, and you're definitely loot banned for at least a month.
00:51:44.800
So if any of you are trying to get, shit, what's the one?
00:51:47.760
I know a couple of you guys are trying to get Toe Up, Talisman of Ephemeral Power.
00:52:01.180
Yeah, the last time I played a game was like two years ago, two, three years ago, and that's
00:52:18.600
This was my boyfriend and I's first Valentine, so we didn't really do anything.
00:52:23.300
I haven't gotten experience with expensive gifts yet.
00:52:29.220
And you've never given a gift ever on Valentine's Day?
00:52:34.320
What is the most extreme, extravagant gift that you've given to a man?
00:52:47.320
No, not like flowers and chocolates, but his favorite snacks, stuff that he needs for
00:52:54.060
I wouldn't think it's like extreme, but like shoes, a chain, I bought like with my ex a
00:53:21.120
But it wasn't like, it wasn't like a big chain.
00:53:49.900
I'll never spend like $100,000 like some of these rappers wear.
00:54:03.040
This is actually my first Valentine's Day that I did anything.
00:54:07.720
I hate Valentine's Day, but my husband likes it.
00:54:17.780
I think that every day you should tell your person that you love, how much you love them.
00:54:22.820
And that you shouldn't, I mean, have you seen Hallmark cards and how much they are during
00:54:36.400
So, and a little backstory, I guess, is for this Valentine's Day, my husband didn't want
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Like, I would be in sweatpants if I was allowed to be.
00:54:55.580
Um, so I actually made a dress for him from scratch.
00:55:03.140
No, I made, I made, for him, because I don't dress up nicely normally, I made a dress for
00:55:18.180
That vapid vitriolic orifice has about as much worth and substance as her circus clown makeup.
00:55:23.980
Nightmare fuel is more comforting than her misandrist's opinions.
00:55:54.240
Oh, by the way, Eric, can you star any memberships just so I can pull them up?
00:56:09.120
I think a lot of men would actually appreciate if their SO would dress up for them more frequently,
00:56:15.600
Because a lot of women don't do that, and men like to look.
00:56:17.820
So, if a man can look at you and actually be able to only see you while you're not going
00:56:29.420
He said she made a dress for herself, but for him, LOL, the logic.
00:56:37.220
Um, well, him and I share joint bank accounts, so technically I paid for the Valentine's Day
00:56:46.500
Um, I also like giving gifts, um, so I kind of go all out, um, for my boyfriend, um, I've
00:56:56.600
done quite a few different things, um, it may not always cost a lot of money, but like
00:57:02.420
I've made, like, like I made a mason jar with little, um, little things for him to read
00:57:12.060
and like on the, on the lid it says like to make you smile, like, and so.
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I packed it in his lunch the other day just cause he hasn't gone in there in a while,
00:57:22.780
but, um, I'm always doing small thoughtful things.
00:57:26.920
Um, but I would say maybe the biggest thing was his birthday.
00:57:32.400
So every day until the 5th, I give him a present and then on the 5th, uh, I threw him a surprise
00:57:53.840
I mean, like a girl should be able to wear whatever she's comfortable in.
00:57:56.620
Like about her wearing sweats all day, if I could, I would too.
00:57:59.100
So like, I think it's more, um, like the quality time that you're going to spend with your boyfriend,
00:58:03.620
not like what you're wearing or how you look or if your makeup's good or if you're wearing
00:58:08.720
I think as long as you're with, with them, like you're spending time with them and like
00:58:12.240
if you feel comfortable in what you're wearing, that should be enough for them to love you
00:58:20.000
But I think also, at least for me, like I feel good when I feel a little sexy around
00:58:28.960
Like I have my like big sweats or his big sweats, big t-shirts, but then I've also bought
00:58:34.040
cute pajamas and I wear them for when he comes home from work.
00:58:41.480
So, I mean, I think, I think you made, you both made good points.
00:58:48.340
So you think that your boyfriend or a boyfriend should not have any say or input in terms of
00:58:58.960
Um, I mean, you can add your input if you want.
00:59:01.500
Like if my boyfriend told me that he wanted me to wear a certain thing or like he didn't
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like the way I looked in something, I would take it into like consideration.
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But at the end of the day, it's like whatever I want to wear and whatever I feel comfortable
00:59:11.160
So have you ever, um, told your boyfriend, maybe he wasn't wearing something good and
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Um, he's never really asked me, but he's asked me for like input on like dinner date outfits
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and I've given it to him, but I've never said like, you have to wear this when we're going
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Cause I've definitely had girls tell me like, bro, don't wear those sweatpants to the
00:59:39.740
No, what I'm saying is my boyfriend has never like worn sweatpants out to dinner, but if
00:59:44.380
you were, yeah, I would have something to say about it.
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If he asks for my opinion, I'm going to give it to him.
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But if he doesn't and he wants to wear whatever he wants to wear.
01:00:15.280
By the way, are you writing notes or do you need this on the table, this thing?
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Do you want to wrap up on your Valentine's Day thing?
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Basically, I feel like modern Valentine's Day has pretty much nothing to do with the love.
01:00:33.360
It's, and I think I kind of resonated with you on this.
01:00:35.420
It's basically a commercial gimmick manufactured by corporations, compelling men, sometimes women
01:00:42.480
too, to spend money on things they neither need nor want.
01:00:50.020
So, like, the same flowers that normally cost $10 cost $100 on Valentine's Day.
01:00:54.620
That same restaurant reservation costs $500, whereas maybe costs $50.
01:01:03.680
So, you know, if you love each other, you don't need a day and hundreds of dollars to show it.
01:01:19.080
So, one last note for everyone who's doing the TTS, if you look in the description, we
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You don't have to, but YouTube takes a cut, 30%.
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So, if you want more of your contribution to go towards whatever and not YouTube, you
01:01:44.040
And by the way, Alvin, you've been constant supporters.
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Ladies, pick only one to keep, a marriageable man or your Instagram.
01:01:54.380
I had to increase the dollar amount of my soup chat for brunch.
01:02:07.020
My boyfriend already said, for him, I'm going to delete my Instagram soon, actually.
01:02:23.180
And was that something that you arrived at on your own?
01:02:28.080
Yeah, because, I mean, again, if you're a certain level of attraction, even for girls, even if
01:02:31.540
you're unattractive, you're still going to get guys in your DM.
01:02:33.680
It doesn't matter, because we can get a guy easier than a guy can get a girl.
01:02:38.160
And so, for me, I just, I want to make him feel like he's the only man.
01:02:42.680
And that comes with making him feel like he has a certain level of status.
01:03:00.040
I don't think I've ever heard a girl say that on this show.
01:03:21.080
And so, I'm not going to ask him to delete his Instagram.
01:03:24.540
As long as I have access to be able to kind of see and I trust him fully, I don't see any
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For a girl, it's completely different because guys and girls are wired biologically completely
01:03:36.940
So, guys being in DMs, that's still, you know, a temptation and I just would rather get rid
01:03:44.500
Yo, Flynn Life, thank you for the five gifted memberships.
01:03:50.020
By the way, the microphones, you can actually go a little further back from the mic just
01:03:59.740
You're following my instructions, but it does seem to be blocking you slightly.
01:04:15.100
If I, if I, I don't know, honestly, I'm not in that situation yet, I guess.
01:04:22.140
If I really, really love the man, I get really obsessed when I like somebody a lot.
01:04:30.160
I think in order for me to delete my Instagram, he would have to do the same thing, too.
01:04:35.840
If he was just telling me, don't, like, go delete your Instagram and stuff.
01:04:43.960
When you're in a relationship, do you see that man as your equal?
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Leather jacket needs to stop hiding behind the mic.
01:05:08.160
But she pretends she would delete her Instagram when she pays for followers on it.
01:05:30.940
Brian, I'll have to email you about calling in.
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Before I go, to the traditional woman, much respect to your husband, and well done honoring
01:05:43.800
Ladies need to be wives before a husband finds them.
01:06:00.440
Well, hey, Zentians, thank you so much for the support, man.
01:06:05.140
And my email is, it's just brianatwhatever.com.
01:06:13.320
So, you want, I think you were in the middle of responding to her about marriageable man
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I was just asking if you saw the man as equal to you.
01:06:26.960
I haven't really been in a relationship in a while, to be honest.
01:06:30.620
Last time I was in a relationship was, like, a year and a half ago.
01:06:44.940
But, because I had TikTok and I got a lot of followers on TikTok, and everybody was asking
01:06:53.440
And all my friends were asking me to make that one, too.
01:06:56.280
And I made it, but I didn't, I don't remember exactly what happened, but I just never really
01:07:05.120
I did make a little bit of money off of it, but everybody was, like, asking for nudes and
01:07:10.820
And then I got asked for the OnlyFans again after I went on this podcast.
01:07:18.840
Do you think that whenever you started your OnlyFans, there was a correlation between you
01:07:26.580
Because you didn't tell me exactly when you started your OnlyFans, but do you think there's
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a, like, I'm not saying causation or correlation, but do you think there's any?
01:07:34.720
I didn't, I only really made the OnlyFans because everybody was, like, asking me for it,
01:07:39.500
and people were, like, dude, just do it, like, you're going to make money.
01:07:43.040
I didn't do it because I was, like, oh, I'm single.
01:07:57.620
Y'all are relationships and asking for OnlyFans?
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They're telling me they're, like, dude, make an OnlyFans.
01:08:05.200
By the way, OnlyFans.com slash whatever, we have our first picture set of Kiki before
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Yeah, so OnlyFans.com slash whatever, check it out.
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You're not just saying that because she said it, right?
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You were going to say that most women would pick up their Instagram, right?
01:08:42.120
Most of the girls we've had on, well, not, we don't ask the question every show, but
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a lot of girls say, no way I'm giving up my Instagram, but.
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You're tainting, you're tainting all the answers.
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No, keeping honest, keeping honest, but you're tainting the answers.
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You guys are all going to be accused of being pick me, by the way.
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If my husband asked me to get rid of my Instagram, I 100% would do it.
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I didn't have social media for a really long time.
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Do you want to cook a little bit longer on why?
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I feel like as a woman, we're called to be submissive to our husbands or boyfriends, even.
01:09:59.520
If they're, you know, qualified or to the standard of husband.
01:10:02.920
Because there are still, you know, there are some guys out there that are just like mojo.
01:10:06.640
And then there's ones like my man who is a one to five percenter.
01:10:11.680
So, for me, getting rid of my Instagram is easy.
01:10:18.320
You said your boyfriend's a one to five percenter.
01:10:26.400
Well, if you guys are, if you're down to come back on, I know you wanted to try to
01:10:29.280
get him on this panel, but we would love a bit full, but let's get him on the show.
01:10:40.140
So, did you want to, did you guys want to explain why or just.
01:10:53.500
Do you regret who you lost your virginity with?
01:11:06.280
Oh, Michael Matroke asking difficult questions.
01:11:12.160
No, I don't regret the person that I lost my virginity to because I was definitely in love
01:11:23.500
Um, until a few months into the relationship, actually.
01:11:27.520
But, um, yeah, I, I was like 19 at the time too.
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So, I think I was like mature and yeah, I don't regret it at all because he loved me
01:11:39.380
Um, my first time also was not consensual, but I wouldn't count him as losing my virginity,
01:11:49.940
So, the recent one that I did, I guess, lose my virginity to, I don't think I would regret.
01:12:06.120
This is three girls so far that have had, that said that.
01:12:16.060
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's certainly terrible that that's happened to you guys.
01:12:21.680
And we were in a relationship, so no, I don't regret it.
01:12:31.220
Michael, thank you for the heavy question there.
01:12:33.420
Or it wasn't a heavy question, but it certainly elicited a heavy response.
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Uh, Immorality Kid, thank you for the $20 soup chat.
01:13:06.140
I read a lot of books, though, but I can't, I took a break from reading.
01:13:09.720
But the last book I read was Down the Rabbit Hole.
01:13:14.880
Name three countries excluding North American countries.
01:13:52.520
Your geography is good, but your math needs a little work, I think.
01:14:19.300
As a native of Luxembourg, I'm deeply offended.
01:14:22.900
If, for you to confuse, what is it, Lexington, Oklahoma?
01:15:07.220
Um, isn't like, like, France, Italy, is Puerto Rico a country?
01:15:20.480
It's part of the, no, it's part of the United States.
01:15:41.820
You can't name any previously named countries, by the way.
01:16:07.060
Would you rather have a fabulously wealthy man who cheats or a loyal man who loves you,
01:16:24.680
I mean, wealth is not something I really care about.
01:16:42.560
I just want someone who will love me and protect me and always be there for me and I will do
01:17:07.580
If I have, like, a good, stable job, I would try to encourage them to, like, look for work
01:17:12.860
just so I'm not the only income and we can, like, work together to make income, but I would
01:17:23.280
I would encourage them to try to make an income.
01:17:26.060
But I would be comfortable with holding an income as well.
01:17:52.060
The word vomit spilling out of your mouth is overflowing worse than your muffin towel.
01:18:17.960
I either want to, like, work with criminals, criminal sociology, or educate, like, people
01:18:23.840
Like, in corrections, or, like, how would you work with criminals, besides selling drugs
01:18:45.120
I mean, I wouldn't be in school for sociology if they didn't make a good income.
01:18:56.940
You think you're gonna, with a sociology degree, you think you're gonna make $100,000 a year
01:19:09.200
Well, not maybe from one job, but I believe that, like...
01:19:21.820
I would say a little man who loves me, but is on, like, the broker side.
01:19:27.960
I would understand why some ladies would choose the other option.
01:19:33.160
Wait, I just really quick on the sociology major thing.
01:19:39.840
Obviously, wages in California are higher than in the rest of the country.
01:19:43.660
However, it says here, sociology major graduates in the U.S. make an average $40,000 a year
01:20:02.500
Oh, well, $41,000 in California and $19.65 an hour.
01:20:41.120
Look, I get being upset with people, but just hate and to just hate is haram.
01:20:47.380
What is the biggest double standard that women have for men?
01:20:51.020
What is the biggest double standard that women have for men?
01:21:00.540
What is the biggest double standard that women have for men?
01:21:09.180
So, the one double standard that most women tend to argue is that men can sleep with more, like, a lot of women and not be called a hoe.
01:21:18.660
Whereas women that sleep with a lot of men are definitely a hoe.
01:21:33.800
Ladies, my sister was assaulted in SB by the SH Tri-Kitty.
01:21:38.440
I worked at Cottage ER and was working the night it happened.
01:21:42.120
I wanted to find the men to know ends of this earth, believe me.
01:22:11.820
The question was, like, is there any double standards that women have for men?
01:22:29.180
Oh, what is the biggest double standard that women have for men?
01:22:42.200
That's the only thing I can think of, because society really benefits women in a lot of different ways.
01:22:48.280
And a lot of women tend to, like, fight against the patriarchy.
01:22:52.600
Is there really a patriarchy whenever women have all these benefits?
01:22:55.380
I think the big double standard that I can think of that kind of, like, goes both ways is women have plenty of physical preferences that they have in men.
01:23:09.320
Often, those preferences are not things that are in men's control.
01:23:19.700
So, those three are things that are totally out of men's control, whereas, like, men, if we say, like, oh, we don't want to date a girl who's, like, overweight or obese, it's like, oh, my God, how dare you?
01:23:33.280
But, like, almost, like, the vast majority of women have a height preference.
01:23:37.940
Nobody bats an eye when women, like, want to date a guy who's tall.
01:23:42.340
But, like, if a guy were to say, I don't want to date a woman who's overweight, oh, my God.
01:23:48.660
Actually, you would get women on dating apps say they like tall guys or they don't like short guys all the time.
01:23:55.420
But if a dude on a dating app were to say, I don't like fat women, he would get banned from the dating app, even though one you can control and the other you can't.
01:24:03.820
So, I would say that's when it comes to judging physical characteristics, nobody shames women for their preferences in men when it comes to physical characteristics.
01:24:12.780
However, if men even open their mouth about things that they find attractive in women, it's always, like, misogynist, body shaming, some sort of shit like that.
01:24:22.680
I think that, to me, is the biggest double standard that exists.
01:24:28.380
We get thrown away for a while, like Andrew Tate.
01:24:35.240
There's a lot of double standards whenever it comes to that aspect.
01:24:40.100
Okay, so we were doing, I'm trying to pull back up the super chat that we were on.
01:25:04.100
I want to say loyal as well, but I feel like if I was in a specific situation, I would think of myself and choose the other.
01:25:18.560
Respect to Bangs for coming back on the pod after her roast.
01:25:22.360
If she humbled herself, actually learned something, and gave herself a more realistic beauty rating,
01:25:28.040
she would literally go up by about two points in attractiveness.
01:25:43.900
No, they're losing money when they're subscribing to your OnlyFans and not subscribing to the whatever OnlyFans.
01:25:53.200
By the way, full disclosure, there's not much on the whatever OnlyFans, but there's a little...
01:26:01.700
Let me know what it is, but we got to get caught up in the soup chats.
01:26:05.900
How long would you stay in a relationship where that man wasn't making any bread?
01:26:18.760
She hasn't learned anything from the past show.
01:27:01.640
Apologies that we're just getting to these super chats now.
01:27:04.340
Not sure exactly what this is in context to, but appreciate it.
01:27:19.900
Yo, thank you for the $20 New Zealand dollars, man.
01:27:40.420
I need $500 New Zealand dollars to do the haka.
01:28:01.820
For the men in the chat, stop subbing to OnlyFans girls and quit following IG girls that don't
01:28:09.720
If you truly love your SO, then every day should be Valentine's Day, for better or worse.
01:28:23.680
I mean, like I said, Valentine's Day is kind of a gimmick.
01:28:29.240
Brixton, are you looking for companies to sponsor the pod or do you want sponsors or do you don't
01:28:59.400
Some of them I'll take, but yeah, if you have a business or company, feel free to reach out
01:29:05.880
and yeah, it's something I'm open to, but I don't take every single deal.
01:29:13.740
I kind of feel like once you start taking advertiser dollars, it can, I don't know, compromise
01:29:25.600
I've had sponsorship deals in the past not work out and even though, yeah, they compensate
01:29:31.920
you well, it's just at the end of the day, it's sometimes it's more of a headache.
01:29:40.120
There was just like, um, I don't want to say, I'm not going to say anything bad.
01:29:45.240
I probably should shut my mouth while I'm ahead.
01:30:23.020
Six, four, six figs, loyal, protective, handsome.
01:30:26.020
You ladies have high value men telling you what they want, but it doesn't matter.
01:30:48.160
Well, she's saying they're high value and they're telling you, they're telling you,
01:30:56.060
So I guess in a easier question, what value to you, do you bring to them?
01:31:09.740
So what specifically do you bring to the table to satisfy a one to five percenter man?
01:31:14.780
Well, by the way, she rejects that we're high value, but.
01:31:23.320
Um, honestly, if I had a high value man, like this man's bringing in the fucking money.
01:31:43.280
Well, not only that, but in order to get a high value man, you have to be a high value woman, which means you need to do things that other girls don't do.
01:31:54.500
So, for example, do you go out to clubs or bars?
01:32:08.380
So, if you associate yourself with the wrong crowd, people are gonna take you and put you in that wrong crowd, even if you're really not.
01:32:14.460
So, you have to continue to be a high value woman, but you can't do that if you're subscribing or having men subscribe to what you're selling on the internet.
01:32:27.900
If you have a problem with me having an OnlyFans, I don't know.
01:32:34.380
Because if you're not, if you want to stay in a relationship with a high value man, you need to be able to bring more than just the basic things that you should already be doing.
01:32:45.920
You need to be adding value to the relationship.
01:32:49.660
So, it's not just about the very bare minimum of cooking and cleaning and being his, whatever you said.
01:33:03.900
We don't have a problem with you, but it's just a different way of looking at a healthy relationship.
01:33:16.680
I feel like that's something that men should answer.
01:33:22.960
So, a high value woman would be, she cooks, she cleans, keeps the traditional mindset for the most part.
01:33:36.700
It's like, I can take what you say into consideration, but if you're going to, like, argue with me, give me a hard time.
01:33:43.260
Like, from what I'm seeing from what you say that you have to offer is you have the OnlyFans account.
01:33:49.380
You demand him to have the same, whenever he asks you to delete your Instagram or something like that, he would have to do it as well.
01:33:55.360
So, there's a landscape that is difficult to traverse with you, and so, like, honestly, like, if a man was going to try and take you seriously, he would probably just smash and pass.
01:34:05.740
I think you have to be a good follower to your partner.
01:34:09.800
You have to be able to submit to him and follow.
01:34:16.720
I don't think you need to be in love with him because are you doing these things in the dating stage or in the getting to know stage?
01:34:22.720
Because that's where you build that foundation of a healthy relationship because if you're already saying that you don't want to delete your Instagram or you're going to keep your OnlyFans, even if you would.
01:34:36.020
If I got in a relationship or even I was, like, talking to somebody or something and he told me to delete my OnlyFans, out of respect, I would do that.
01:34:45.820
But how are you going to get into a high-value relationship if you have an OnlyFans?
01:34:49.860
Because it puts you in that same crowd that Liz was saying.
01:34:52.720
I'm going to follow up on that point right there.
01:34:54.340
So OnlyFans girls can't have a high, like, can't find high-value men?
01:35:30.880
So, I wanted to piggyback on what you had to say.
01:35:38.140
Yeah, brain surgeon and, believe it or not, rocket scientist also.
01:35:41.920
Like, he first got into rocket science, and then he's like, this shit's too easy.
01:35:49.340
I have to give up for a sec, but continue the conversation.
01:35:53.580
So, to be a brain surgeon, rocket scientist at that as well, he had to go through trials,
01:35:58.740
tribulations, go to school, had to get, what is it, the degree?
01:36:04.260
So, he had to go through a lot of effort to become that, and before he got a job as that
01:36:11.060
doctor, in order to do that, you have to fill out the prerequisites, and you have to
01:36:16.180
do that before you are actually a brain surgeon, before you get hired, before you shoot a rocket
01:36:23.840
So, why should a man take you seriously if you don't take the prerequisites to become
01:36:28.860
a high-value woman before you're in a relationship, before you're even in one?
01:36:37.200
I don't care if, I will, I, I don't know how you want me to answer this.
01:36:43.500
And I'm going to answer, and I'm answering you.
01:36:47.620
If a man is going to, I think I want to be with a man that's going to respect me, and
01:36:52.500
if, I don't know, like, hopefully not have a problem with OnlyFans.
01:36:56.220
I know a lot of guys probably do, but I don't, I don't know.
01:36:59.920
I think if I'm, if I really like somebody, I'm trying to pursue them, trying to get in
01:37:06.160
So, if you're trying to get in a relationship with them, I understand that you don't care
01:37:09.520
what most people think, and shout out, like, most people shouldn't care what other people
01:37:12.660
think if they want to strive to their goals and stuff, and dreams, aspirations.
01:37:16.500
But in order to get a relationship with someone that you want, typically high value, probably
01:37:22.180
makes a lot of money, I would assume, can take care of you, or you would
01:37:26.200
want to delete all your social medias, et cetera, and be loyal to him, wouldn't you
01:37:31.220
want to actually, like, do what you need to do prior to meeting that person?
01:37:35.320
So, I should delete my Instagram and my OnlyFans?
01:37:42.220
I'm not looking for a relationship, so no, I don't.
01:37:48.340
You are, and you're, and I want to, you know, I want to, yeah, I want to experience
01:37:51.800
new things, um, yeah, I think, and honestly, like,
01:38:01.920
Women used to keep other women in check with wisdom and sometimes shame.
01:38:09.300
Older slash wiser women don't do enough to keep younger, more naive, narcissistic women
01:38:23.960
Uh, well, I mean, there's a different order to the world now.
01:38:27.320
We're in, I guess, a new world order, so to speak.
01:38:29.960
So, um, uh, let's bring it back to high value really quick.
01:38:32.960
So, I, you were saying something about kind of, the original was like, I think, just a regular
01:38:47.420
Well, uh, so I, I, and I'm not saying this to criticize you, but, you know, based off of
01:38:55.640
like your appearance on the last show, I think you're going to give your guy a lot to wrestle
01:39:03.780
Like, because you're, you're a little bit combative.
01:39:11.660
Well, I think, honestly, like, when you're in a relationship, you shouldn't just want
01:39:17.580
like a very submissive person that isn't going to, like, help you grow.
01:39:26.540
And it's gonna, and it's trying to make you better, but I feel like it would, it's just
01:39:31.720
Like, if you're in a relationship and you're just like the head and you're like, oh, I
01:39:38.960
Um, I think it's really important to like, um, compromise and people for both people to
01:39:46.640
But I don't think the man should just be like telling the girl what to do in the relationship.
01:39:57.240
Well, cause I feel like you can't have the best of both worlds.
01:40:00.160
Like if you want a guy who's a leader, in other words, a guy who takes initiative, because
01:40:04.040
a lot of women will say, I want a guy who has a plan, who knows what he's doing.
01:40:08.940
You know, for example, for a first date, a lot of girls, and I'll see this on dating apps.
01:40:13.660
They say, I don't want a guy who asks me what I want to do.
01:40:17.720
Um, they were like, meet here this time, this place, be ready then, like all that stuff.
01:40:28.040
Well, how, I mean, most call, I feel like most college relationships are typically like
01:40:32.980
There's not like, there's not, I mean, I could be wrong, but, um, everyone's different, but,
01:40:40.340
uh, the, the big thing is, is that men want peace and.
01:40:57.280
Well, no, because who doesn't want peace in the relationship?
01:40:59.080
You want to be safe and you want to feel loved by that person.
01:41:01.920
And like, if you're like always fighting, then like, why be with that person?
01:41:14.860
Oh, my ex, he would always fucking nag all the time.
01:41:20.300
And I just, I want to give, and I feel like my previous comment, I do want to kind of give
01:41:26.460
When I say you're combative, I mean, obviously you've been invited on a podcast to debate
01:41:32.740
So, you know, obviously the way that you or anyone else on the panel conducts themselves
01:41:37.800
in this specific environment is going to be to some degree different than how they conduct
01:41:46.580
Nanny, you can't expect to be with a high value man without him enforcing his standards.
01:41:53.200
He will put you to work if you want him to provide.
01:41:56.760
HVMs do not have tolerance for your incompetence.
01:42:00.060
You struggle to answer very basic, fundamental questions.
01:42:03.580
So, yeah, I mean, by the way, Alvin, thank you, man.
01:42:10.300
So, obviously the way that someone is going to engage when intentionally invited on a debate
01:42:17.320
format like this is going to be different than how one conducts themselves with a romantic
01:42:25.300
Like, the way I'm discussing these topics with you is not particularly how I would, for example,
01:42:30.420
conduct myself when I'm with a partner, for example, or with a girl I'm dating.
01:42:35.420
Frankly, these sort of topics are the last things that I want to talk about with a romantic
01:42:40.560
But I do sort of get the impression that, and perhaps in some ways it's good.
01:42:50.920
I think being disagreeable, for example, if you want to be successful in business, that's
01:43:00.420
However, I think when it comes to relationships, it's not something that men want or look for.
01:43:07.920
Because the biggest thing that you can bring a guy, the biggest thing, don't forget looks,
01:43:16.080
Because, like, for example, a guy who's really, let's say he's very successful.
01:43:21.600
He's going out into the world, and he's, it's a struggle.
01:43:25.980
And if he makes a lot of money, and maybe some, some of you girls here don't really care
01:43:30.220
about that, maybe at some point you will, especially if you want children, finances are
01:43:34.220
going to become a much bigger factor for you as you get a bit older.
01:43:37.180
But we're already combating with the world, going out there fighting in the business world,
01:43:45.280
The last thing we want to do is, like, have to come and contend with our partner.
01:43:51.320
So, some people may disagree on that, some people may agree, but I think that's the biggest
01:43:55.520
thing that a girl can bring to a relationship is peace.
01:44:00.700
Well, I believe in, like, a relationship, there's roles.
01:44:03.560
And we, I feel like, and nowadays we've forgotten these roles.
01:44:09.620
I have a loud voice, and I didn't want to overpower anyone.
01:44:14.820
So, I think that with these roles, God gave these roles to us.
01:44:19.800
The man's supposed to provide and protect, and we're supposed to submit to them.
01:44:24.420
And that doesn't mean that they can be a, you know, a person that just tells you what
01:44:30.740
I mean, there's still conversation within that.
01:44:34.640
And so, you're supposed to give 100% into a relationship, and they're supposed to give
01:44:41.160
And it's not 100%, 100% with both, like, it's not just one role, and you both are paying,
01:44:47.740
playing 50, and say, excuse me, you're not putting 50, and he's putting 50.
01:44:52.560
He's putting 100% in his role, and you're putting 100% in your role.
01:44:59.180
Because he provides, and I'm not saying you can't make money, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:45:04.440
But he should still be the sole provider and take care of you and protect you, because
01:45:09.500
that man is going to protect you and your children and keep bread on your table, and
01:45:15.700
But, like, our job is to submit and to help him to become the best version of who he can
01:45:31.780
Before I have you come in, do you have a response?
01:45:33.240
I mean, that's her opinion, but I think everybody, like, maybe your husband is that way, but
01:45:37.620
there's a lot of guys that aren't that way either, and...
01:45:53.200
Well, you want a man to adhere to his more traditional gender roles there.
01:45:56.820
I want to give you guys an opportunity to come in.
01:45:59.320
I feel like I am a pretty traditional person other than, like, the...
01:46:06.280
Like, I don't post nudes on there, like I said.
01:46:17.380
You guys can't see that right now, but in a relationship, I think I am pretty submissive
01:46:24.600
I don't know if you guys can't tell, but I think I am.
01:46:27.820
I think it's just the way that you have gone about the conversations and disagreed about,
01:46:34.080
you know, a lot of the topics that have been talked about.
01:46:36.380
And I think you mentioned something about not having to be submissive.
01:46:44.700
And you said something negative about being submissive.
01:46:47.640
That you didn't listen to your mom, your dad, any man.
01:46:52.540
And so I think that's what makes us, you know, it makes everyone see you as someone that's
01:47:01.540
I think if I really, really, like, if I love the person, I want to be in a relationship
01:47:06.540
And I'm saying this because I feel like when I like somebody, I, like, I love them and
01:47:13.960
And I don't know, like, I'm just, I don't know.
01:47:18.080
I would, I don't know how to answer this, to be honest.
01:47:30.680
Like, if you are looking for a relationship, what can be...
01:47:39.180
Well, I hope that you don't feel like we're, we're dogpiling on you.
01:47:43.000
But, and I, I do, it's difficult because on one hand, I do invite people on the show
01:47:49.140
to basically engage in a conversation and in a debate.
01:47:52.740
So on one hand, I don't know if it's fair for me to characterize you.
01:47:59.220
So I think there's been maybe perhaps a few moments in the show where there's been a bit
01:48:05.440
Uh, but I, I don't know if it's, if it's fair to characterize you as combative because
01:48:11.740
we have intentionally invited you on what is essentially a debate show about dating.
01:48:17.700
And, uh, and like I said already, the way you conduct yourself in this environment may
01:48:25.980
very well be different than how you conduct yourself in a relationship, much in the same
01:48:31.960
We're all actors in the sense that the way you conduct yourself in the classroom, for
01:48:36.620
example, when there's someone of authority, a teacher is very different than when you
01:48:40.060
conduct yourself amongst your friends or the way you conduct yourself in front of your
01:48:46.020
I was saying maybe she feels a little bit, not attacked, but kind of out of place.
01:48:53.080
This short term gain will last until it doesn't be, you age out of your market.
01:49:01.960
It's yourself and the fact you will fully close all opportunities towards a relationship.
01:49:12.500
I want you guys, I want you two to come in because maybe you guys have her back a little
01:49:23.060
A high value woman is considered a homemaker, agreeable, submissive, pure, loyal, honest,
01:49:32.840
Few men who know their worth would be okay with his woman selling herself on the internet.
01:49:46.220
They're losing their money hating because I don't care what they have to say.
01:50:02.640
Oh, I was just going to say that you had already said it.
01:50:09.060
Just so that, I don't know, there's more conversation to agree and disagree on.
01:50:14.740
I agree with what you were saying about like the 100%.
01:50:17.280
Like, I can give 100% and then my boyfriend can give 100% as long as like we're both contributing
01:50:25.440
If she wants to have an OnlyFans like letter, I don't understand why everybody's like being
01:50:29.160
so combative and why the chat keeps like flaming.
01:50:31.540
I would say the reason is because she also said she, you want to get married, right?
01:50:43.540
So between like the ages of 18 to 24 would be about her peak value because men find your
01:51:01.020
Whereas if a woman had a standard and where she can just do whatever she wants and the
01:51:04.140
man just accepts me, that that's not demonized.
01:51:08.420
But the thing is, is that men actually do care a lot about these things.
01:51:11.420
And it sounds like you don't care because you also said you don't listen to men.
01:51:14.660
And I'm not, I promise I'm not trying to attack you, but you're one of the people that
01:51:19.640
And I'm really honestly trying to understand why you think the way you do.
01:51:25.560
Um, well, I was saying that, like answer him or say what I was saying before.
01:51:32.200
Well, I was going to say that in the eyes of society, like in society, like women have
01:51:37.160
Like once you reach a certain age, you're not valued that much anymore.
01:51:40.520
Like as women get older, um, like in, like in society, like art, we're not seen as beautiful.
01:51:47.920
Like, why is it like, it's always like younger girls that are seen as beautiful.
01:51:54.300
People are going to age, you know, but, um, to, uh, to like, to answer your question, which
01:52:03.480
So, I mean, it's kind of all rooted in biology and evolution.
01:52:07.000
So, um, men are fertile pretty much until the day they die.
01:52:10.240
Whereas women's fertility window is much narrower.
01:52:13.820
Once you get to 35, that's when you enter high risk pregnancy territory, much higher risk
01:52:18.040
of miscarriage, birth defects, more difficulty actually getting pregnant.
01:52:22.840
So, and as you start getting into your late thirties, early forties, by the time you're
01:52:27.720
45, the likelihood that you can get pregnant and bring that, if you, even if you do get
01:52:32.640
pregnant, being able to bring that pregnancy to term, uh, is so greatly diminished.
01:52:38.020
So, um, men have, for evolutionary reasons have, they're more attracted to younger women,
01:52:46.040
for example, because younger women are more fertile.
01:52:48.740
So, and since, like, I'm going to say it like this, uh, since most women live life on easy
01:52:53.320
mode, that's one of the negative things that women have to face.
01:52:56.300
You're going to get some pushback on that one, I think.
01:53:01.600
So, uh, women have, uh, the basic outlet of OnlyFans, whereas if a man were to go on OnlyFans,
01:53:07.460
not saying that some men can't, but the likelihood that he's going to make a significant amount
01:53:21.340
Because, oh, there's a lot of beautiful girls out there.
01:53:27.900
I would say that there's more beautiful women than there are.
01:53:43.300
You got to just get pregnant with your husband.
01:53:52.900
So a woman can also post on Instagram, like, a really pretty picture or whatever.
01:53:58.280
And most women actually use Instagram for dating, I would say.
01:54:02.200
But they also use it for, like, you said you have your OnlyFans in your description.
01:54:06.460
So it's also, like, a fishing tactic to try and, like, lure men in.
01:54:10.180
So you could post whatever you want and then men see it.
01:54:12.180
It's like, oh, I wonder if she has an OnlyFans.
01:54:13.640
Actually, that's one of the first things that men should do.
01:54:15.620
As soon as you, like, find a girl attractive, go into her Instagram or any of their social
01:54:20.860
media sites and see if she has an OnlyFans and really, like, decide if that's something
01:54:55.080
I'm so sorry, but there's men in the real world that don't think like this.
01:55:01.040
I've met men that are, like, I don't know, like, you guys are, some of the guys in the
01:55:05.440
chat, too, they're like, oh, I would never pay on the first date.
01:55:13.660
I have really high standards because that's what I've experienced.
01:55:17.120
That's what I'm going to hold men accountable for.
01:55:21.980
Women have life on easy mode because they will never have the true feeling of being alone.
01:55:26.360
So many men and their problems are invisible to pretty much everyone else.
01:55:37.060
I don't know if the girls are happy about that one.
01:55:39.300
Actually, I have a photo pulled up that kind of illustrates this.
01:55:43.980
Eric, can you pull up that comic book photo really quick?
01:55:50.020
Uh, so, this is kind of like, Eric, can you, can you, uh, control mouse wheel up?
01:55:57.080
Um, so, like, yeah, that's kind of like, I feel like, women's experience, you know?
01:56:02.920
Like, I think I see the guy that paid for her gas in there.
01:56:10.580
I just don't understand why, if you think that a woman is pretty, that you need to go to
01:56:14.120
her Instagram, make sure that, that, like, the shit that she has an OnlyFans.
01:56:18.560
So, I get, like, the high value woman and being, like, in, like, that kind of category
01:56:26.520
I just don't understand why it's such a big deal.
01:56:38.940
Some guys that I've even talked to have encouraged me to make OnlyFans, and they're like, they're
01:56:48.560
They want to see you naked without doing the work.
01:56:51.400
They want to see you naked without doing the work.
01:56:52.960
Or promiscuous photos with you covering up very minimal.
01:56:58.640
A man would rather pay to see a girl half naked or naked than do the work himself and
01:57:08.580
So, like, with OnlyFans, there's a predisposition where there's obviously naked pictures all over
01:57:14.840
Like, yo, so my OnlyFans, it's with the underlying tone that you have naked pictures on there.
01:57:26.520
But the thing is that you're going to do it in a negative way and you're going to do
01:57:31.300
You're never going to be able to get more and more money because OnlyFans is going to
01:57:39.420
So, you have this, like, level of ego that is going to be crazy astronomical the older
01:57:45.860
And you won't see it now because obviously you're not 25 yet.
01:57:49.900
So, whenever that hit, you're going to hit what's called a wall and you're going to be
01:57:54.260
You're going to be worried about, like, I don't have any man to love me for me and all
01:57:59.680
I'm just doing OnlyFans because I wanted to make money.
01:58:05.780
I'm not like, oh my gosh, like, I'm an OnlyFans model.
01:58:08.280
Like, I don't know why you guys are thinking that.
01:58:09.500
Like, I literally have just pictures of me on there.
01:58:14.480
And this comes to where it's like, to answer your question, this comes to the fact that
01:58:17.860
men have standards and whenever we enforce them, because you said, I don't understand
01:58:23.860
Whenever a man has standards and he actually puts his foot down and abides by them, he's
01:58:28.240
going to keep them and he's not going to take you seriously.
01:58:32.700
Even some men go as far as to get relationships with women just so they can smash.
01:58:41.060
And those men should not be boyfriends and they should not be in a relationship if that's
01:58:48.200
That some men will only get into a relationship to have sex with a woman and then move on.
01:58:52.780
And those are horrible men is what I'm trying to say.
01:59:00.080
And so, like, I understand, like, if you don't understand why, but I'm telling you
01:59:04.740
It's because you're doing actions that a man would not want to take seriously.
01:59:08.160
But you don't understand the insatiable need for a man to have sex with a real woman,
01:59:12.580
not just sit there and beat his meat on an OF account in front of Pixels.
01:59:19.400
But what you put out there is what you receive.
01:59:21.860
And if you're going to put out that you're on OnlyFans or any kind of platform that sells
01:59:27.240
yourself to people, you're going to receive low people.
01:59:32.580
So, if you want a high-value man, you can't- you can't- why don't you want to keep your
01:59:39.840
And to add on that, you're saying that the content on your OnlyFans does not have you
01:59:47.920
But just with you having it, people are going to have that thought about you.
01:59:52.420
So, that's the problem of why it's such a big deal.
01:59:57.380
Like, I don't know why you guys are trying really hard to make me care.
02:00:04.040
Because I'm gonna- I'm living my life- like, I- like, I just met you guys today.
02:00:11.680
And I'm probably never going to see you guys again.
02:00:15.060
Whenever you say you want to get married, though.
02:00:29.160
You should be a respectful host and know our names.
02:00:38.740
Well, first off, first off, there's a lot of you and a few of me.
02:00:54.780
He realizes that if all a woman would offer is just her box.
02:01:01.180
The relationship wasn't going to work out either way.
02:01:08.140
Okay, so let's get back to what you were saying.
02:01:12.420
You were actually talking about how what I did was terrible.
02:01:17.440
No, I never said that what you did was terrible.
02:01:20.240
No, she was saying that men who bait women into relationships strictly for sex is terrible.
02:01:26.440
Do you think that OnlyFans creators that actually don't post nudes are manipulative to those men that want to pay for the nudes?
02:01:36.320
There is an option on there where you make your account.
02:01:40.460
Yeah, there's an option on there where you put, if it's a pornographic account or not, mine isn't pornographic.
02:01:49.340
They can also leave her OnlyFans if they don't like what she's selling.
02:01:52.940
That is a man's decision if they want to subscribe to her OnlyFans, yes or no.
02:02:01.280
Okay, so if she's not posting pornographic photos and her account or her page says non-pornographic content, that is a man's decision to subscribe.
02:02:10.560
So you mentioned she can always delete her account.
02:02:15.700
No, I said that, like, if the guys don't like what she's posting, they can always unsubscribe.
02:02:23.220
So one of the reasons, even if she's not posting lewd photos, one thing that, yeah, go ahead.
02:02:36.340
The difference between Bangz and Leatherjacket knows is that Bangz makes money off her and knows pays to buy followers on her 20-year account.
02:02:44.340
Leatherjacket has been shopping all night when she's no better than Bangz.
02:03:03.960
Okay, so one of the things with OnlyFans, though, even if you're not posting lewd content, is you're-
02:03:10.340
I mean, one of the ways you make money is by interacting with the people.
02:03:13.540
You're, like, you're chatting with them and stuff.
02:03:15.980
Okay, well, a lot of OnlyFans creators, they're, like, chatting with the guys, and it's almost like this parasocial relationship that you develop, and there's definitely a finesse component to it.
02:03:24.080
I mean, if you really wanted to start money, you'd actually be talking to and interacting with the guys.
02:03:29.140
So, I think the big thing with social media and OnlyFans is you are fulfilling your need for male attention, and, like, typically the way that, at least before social media, OnlyFans, all this stuff, typically women would get that through a romantic partner, but women are already getting that need filled by the dudes in her Instagram, the dudes on her OnlyFans.
02:03:54.260
So, your romantic partner is no longer kind of- his attention is- becomes less valuable.
02:04:05.020
Also, a big thing when it comes to OnlyFans is it's kind of a respect thing, and I feel like a-
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Men respect her, and she will find a high-value man in life.
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Please understand, young ladies, respect is given for doing what is honorable slash hard.
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Selling your honor-honor is not respected by marriageable men.
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Yeah, so I think one of the big things that men want is we- respect.
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And so, we want respect from our peers, our friends, family, etc.
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And for men, like, you think about the men who are in jail for violence crimes, for example.
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And you hear, like, in prison, if you disrespect someone, you're getting shanked.
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Now, I'm using kind of an extreme example here.
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But respect is like, men will kill other men over being disrespected.
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Whether, obviously, I think violence is abhorrent.
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So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, that's how important to men respect is.
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And I think a lot of men, when it comes to OnlyFans,
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they feel like they are not going to be able to get respect from their peers
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There's videos of her out there getting gangbanged by 10 men.
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So, a lot of guys just won't date a girl who does OF outright.
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And I've said this on the show, and I actually get a lot of heat from my viewers.
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I would date a girl who does OF contingent upon the fact that it's solo content.
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If she's, like, doing anything boy-girl, anything like that, I wouldn't do it.
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But would it be my, ideally, would I prefer a girl to not have OnlyFans?
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Like, if I had to pick the two exact same girls, one has an OnlyFans and one doesn't,
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even if the OnlyFans that she does, it's solo content, I'd prefer the girl without the OnlyFans.
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But I would be willing to date a girl who does have an OnlyFans where she posts solo content.
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I'm going to get excoriated in the chat for this.
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See, that's where it becomes a bit more complicated.
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What if she was, like, let's make content together?
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Like, I would never be in the content because I don't want to be out on the internet like that.
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What if, like, you didn't even have to show your face or anything?
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None of my body is going to be, I'm not going to do any pornographic stuff.
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But, I mean, I would be, would I shoot for a girl and take 50%?
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Because if you work with me, we're going to be making $20,000.
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If you work by yourself, you're going to be making $1,000.
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I mean, obviously, like, it's just, would I prefer a girl that just doesn't have OnlyFans?
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And there's some men out there that are completely fine with their girls having OnlyFans.
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This girl, like, she's, like, the top OF model in Australia.
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And he's, like, and they have been together since she was, like, in high school.
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We're not saying that it precludes you from ever finding a man.
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There's just certain men that, it's just men that do this.
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Although, it is going to be a roadblock for a lot of men.
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If you're okay with that, if you're going to do the calculus and say, well, I'm okay with that risk, then that's totally fine.
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But, you do have, in the same way that me having this podcast, some women don't want to fuck with me because I've got this controversial podcast.
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Bangs, I would love to see you go on to Fresh and Fit podcast and watch Myron last you for hours.
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I want to give you guys more of an opportunity to speak.
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I mean, I do see what you're saying about how you would prefer a girl that doesn't have an OnlyFans.
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I understand that and, like, very understandable.
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I've never dated a girl thus far who has an OnlyFans.
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Like, are you in, like, when was your longest relationship?
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I've had a five-year relationship, a two-year relationship, a one-year relationship.
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My most recent thing was about six, seven months.
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So, my situation right now is, like, I really haven't been dating a whole bunch.
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Um, and, uh, honestly, dating kind of feels like a bit of a waste of time for me right
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I'm trying to, like, make enough money to, like, would I be able to provide for a girl
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You want to provide for a girl so she doesn't have to work?
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Well, my partner, if she's the right girl, then I retire us.
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And, uh, sorry, guys, you only have me for another decade.
02:11:24.280
Um, if a man wasn't in a breadwinner position and you were taking care of your man, how long
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So, if you were the primary, if you were the primary breadwinner in your relationship,
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Um, why were you asking about my relationship status?
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But, um, yeah, honestly, I just, I found that dating just seems kind of, uh, at this
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So, are you, can I just ask you this real quick?
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Like, I don't know how to word it, but I'm saying, like, when you date, like, are you
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I'm not going to be, I'm probably not going to get married.
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No, I could have a life partner, but I don't need the government, I don't need the government
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Yeah, and also, it's just like, it's a big L for men in the United States.
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And I'm a high earner, so it's a big fucking L for me if I get married.
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A lot of girls do want to get married, and I think it would be really hard for you to
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find a girl that's going to be a lifelong partner with you if you're not going to put
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I was just saying, like, without the ring, like, she's not going to want to be with you
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If you're not going to commit to her fully, like, in marriage, she's not going to want
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to stay with you, because why would she want to stay with you if there's, like, a chance
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you're not going to tell other girls you're married, so other girls are going to think,
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What, what is, what is, you can be monogamous outside of a marriage.
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Again, if there's no ring on your finger, though, a girl can assume whatever she wants.
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That's a bigger problem for women than it is men.
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It doesn't show that you're as interested in the girl as they are probably in you.
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Women do not, women do not regularly hit on men, approach men, match with men on dating
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apps, send the first message, send DMs, hold on, stop interrupting, with the same frequency
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So it's actually, if I don't have a wedding ring on my finger, women don't approach me.
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So I don't need the government involved in my love life.
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I actually think it's the girl's job to try and get the ring.
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She has to be marriage material for her to get the ring.
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So I understand why men do not want to get married.
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But with that aside, would you consider a prenup?
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Since you can like choose what percentage you get and what percentage she gets if something
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Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein.
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A man using a woman for her body is demonized in a cancel label offense.
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While a woman using men for their wallet is considered acceptable.
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Is dating a man for money that he worked hard for equal to getting in a relationship to smash?
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Is dating a man for money that he worked hard for?
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We're going to have to come back to that one just so I can finish off on this prenup thing.
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Okay, so prenups are regularly thrown out all the time.
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They're typically non-enforceable, especially the longer the marriage goes on, the less likely
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Prenups just get thrown up, excuse me, thrown out.
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He got took to the fucking cleaners by his wife.
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So, like, to me, it just, it doesn't make sense.
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The United States and a lot of Western countries are going to have to rewrite the marriage laws
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to incentivize men to get married because men are waking up to the fact that men get absolutely
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Financially, when it comes to the kids, women are more likely to get custody.
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And then, also, if you do get a divorce, you're going to, the financial cost of just getting
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the attorney, getting all that involved, if it's a contested divorce, you're going to spend
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And you've got to pay for her attorney, too, if she's not, if it's not a 50-50 relationship.
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I think you said 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
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90% of child support payments go from men to women.
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So, it's just marriage, if you're a betting man, it's not a good bet for men.
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And we've done away with, you know, you have no fault divorce.
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So, a woman can cheat on you, she can get spit-roasted, and infidelity, and she can still get half
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her shit if she cheated on you, which would be a perfectly, perfectly justified reason
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Imagine that, cheating, you caught your wife cheating, and then now you have to pay her
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There's actually this case in Canada, Eric, I think you've looked it up before.
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In Canada, this guy was dating a woman, and they weren't married, and somehow he had to
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pay, it was just a girlfriend, didn't have children, he had to pay her support.
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He was a wealthy guy, went to court, not married.
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I don't know if, I think it's the first one, Eric, if you want to pull it up.
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Canadian court asks man to pay $53,000 per month to ex-girlfriend as spouse support.
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There was something about, like, they were no children.
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These women are viewing marriage from an idealistic view, but the guys are viewing it from a pragmatic
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My co-worker is paying off his ex-wife's $42,000 gambling debt she acquired because of community
02:19:35.640
Yeah, there's no, there's, like, if we were in a traditional social order, say how things
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used to be 50, 60, 70 years ago, where both legally, well, I think, I don't know if much
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There's been a couple shifts legally, but societally, also it was frowned upon to get divorced.
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Now it's like, go girl, like, get fucking divorced.
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So, if there's no incentive to continue the relationship, to stay divorced, if there's
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no stigma to being divorced, then what is the incentive for women to get married and
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Because, here's one thing in both business and in love, you do not enter into a contract
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where the other party is rewarded for breaking it.
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And the fact of the matter is, women are rewarded financially for breaking their marriage contract.
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Substantially rewarded, in fact, for breaking their marriage contract.
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Marcus Aurelius, best Roman emperor, book, meditations, helped me get over my divorce.
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Do the audio book, it's a bit easier to get through.
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I was going to say, divorce is speaking in a very worldly...
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I'd like to ask the girl who said she was Christian, do you believe in saving yourself from marriage?
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If so, is it in the sense of spirit or the law?
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You are married when you have sex, not because of the government.
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So saving yourself is for the right guy to do it with.
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Yeah, so the question is, do you believe in saving yourself from marriage?
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And yeah, I do believe in saving yourself from marriage.
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Sadly, I didn't have that chance to save myself from marriage.
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But when my husband and I both got engaged, we decided that we were going to save ourselves
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in that aspect where we weren't going to have sex and wait until we got married to have that
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And it does, the government, yeah, how do I explain this?
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The question was, can it be asked one more time, the question?
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I think it's important to stay pure because you should be giving everything to the man
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Everything as in your thoughts, emotions, and your body as well.
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Women disproportionately initiate divorce more often because divorce outcomes disproportionately
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So it's just, look, in the United States, it's not a good bet for men to get married.
02:23:06.940
Okay, so imagine, like, you have a corporate job, right?
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You have a corner office, you got plenty of PTO benefits, full medical, dental, everything
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You lose the corner office, you're in the middle of a public office space with everybody
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You lose your PTO benefits, you lose your health insurance, you lose half of your salary.
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You were making 100K before, now you're making 50K.
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I see where you're going with this and using it as a...
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Can I get a quick raise hand if you think that's a good promotion?
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I just don't see, like, the promotion with, like, the salary and, like, your benefits and,
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like, your office space, the exact same thing as a marriage.
02:24:09.000
I see, like, the metaphor that you're going with and how...
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Yeah, like, yeah, I see, like, the divorce and, like, you know, I just don't agree.
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I didn't mean to interrupt what you were saying.
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I mean, yeah, you're in the middle of a space, but what else do you get?
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And people are raised that money over everything.
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So a lot of people have been skewed to, like, focus on the bag, focus on money.
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And money plays a huge factor in finding a potential mate.
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Because you look for, correct me if I'm wrong, you look for safety, security.
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Security is going to be financial gains, essentially.
02:25:05.520
Safety, you want to have a man that knows what he's doing, can fight, hold him up, like, stick up for you in the middle of confrontation.
02:25:15.060
But if you don't get the stuff, you would be turned off, correct?
02:25:19.280
Yeah, but that comes off with a high-value man.
02:25:25.040
There's a lot of men out there that don't do this.
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But there's also a lot of women that think that this is the way society should be.
02:25:31.920
And if you want love, if you want marriage, you're not going to find it doing OnlyFans and not submitting it.
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Okay, you're honestly way more respectful, like, than the last dude I had to deal with.
02:26:02.420
Oh, I was just going to say, I like the way you carry yourself and deliver your opinions.
02:26:05.360
Like, you don't come out as disrespectful or anything.
02:26:10.600
So, I have a list here of some men who have been divorced.
02:26:14.700
And these are exceptionally attractive men who are high status, high earners.
02:26:22.120
Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Dr. Dre, Ryan Reynolds, Tom Brady, Lance Armstrong, Alex Rodriguez, Channing Tatum, Chris Rock, Ben Affleck, Chris Pratt, Liam Hemsworth, Ben Stiller, David Duchovny, Orlando Bloom, Tiger Woods, Sean Penn, Sylvester Stallone, Paul McCartney, Ryan Felipe, Jason Momoa, Michael Jordan, and did I say Tom Brady, right?
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If those men can't hold on to a girl, what chance do you think a regular guy has?
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Money is everything, yes, but money can be found anywhere.
02:27:17.600
Yeah, Dr. Dre had to pay his wife over $100 million in the divorce settlement, and they had a prenup.
02:27:23.440
And then Kim K, a billionaire in her own right, is getting $200,000 a year from Kanye West in child support.
02:27:41.120
It shouldn't be a percentage based on how much money you make.
02:27:43.760
It should be a set amount to live an average life.
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If you can start a channel or something or whatever and speak your mind.
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Don't just attack women because attacking women ain't going to get us nowhere.
02:28:13.900
Actually, I think it would be a really good either a one-on-one episode or to bring on a panel would be to bring on a divorce attorney to the show to talk about this.
02:28:42.300
It's because they know firsthand, okay, prenups get thrown out.
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Here's how much you can expect to pay an alimony after this many years.
02:28:50.800
So, yeah, it's, and I actually know a couple, I know one or two, not, I've never been divorced, but I know one or two attorneys, like, that represent some pretty, like, high-earning people here in Santa Barbara.
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So, I've been trying to get them on, but, like, it's attorneys are, like, professional-type people.
02:29:12.940
I do think it's super sad that marriage is, I mean, for you guys, is just affiliated with money.
02:29:19.000
It's not affiliated with the true meaning of being married.
02:29:24.200
I know it can, but it's sad that the world has come to that.
02:29:26.640
So, I do agree with you in saying how it, you know, it costs a bunch of money, but that shouldn't be what, you know, marriage is about.
02:29:34.580
Okay, well, I mean, idealistically, yes, but we have, as men, we have to be pragmatic, especially if we're the breadwinners, because we have a lot to lose.
02:29:46.680
How many men have their lives absolutely ruined because of divorce?
02:29:57.820
And it's, look, the marriage laws in the West, in the United States, need to be rewritten.
02:30:03.920
There's no fucking scenario where your wife should cheat, and she still gets alimony.
02:30:13.160
And I, the same should apply if the woman's the breadwinner and the dude cheats, he shouldn't get shit either.
02:30:18.480
I don't have a double standard on this, but it's just, it's not a good proposition.
02:30:24.440
Also, the court system's incredibly biased against men, so.
02:30:27.840
Yeah, so I was going to say that the percentage of people who get divorced, like I said, are, you know, initially by a woman by 80%, but that's also in a worldly aspect.
02:30:38.340
So, me being a Christian as well, when you take Christians as a, in a marriage standpoint, the percentage is extremely low, because we don't believe in divorce.
02:30:56.280
Well, there's only reasons why you can get divorced.
02:31:00.180
There are only specific reasons, cheating being one of them, on both sides, if the man cheats or the woman cheats.
02:31:05.940
So, do you think that in society that if you don't have that religious compass, that moral compass, that that's why it's falling down?
02:31:15.260
Because they just think like, oh, like, religion's not a thing anymore.
02:31:22.320
I think there's a lot of fake Christians out there, too.
02:31:24.520
People that say they believe in God but don't hold any values as standards or any morals.
02:31:29.660
I think, I mean, my personal view is you can be a secular individual and still have good morals and good values, but I would say that marriage, that originated from a religious context.
02:31:47.160
And so, I do think there's certainly more incentive to stay married because that's what the book says.
02:31:58.080
That's what is expected of you as, you know, whether you're Muslim or you're Jewish or you're Christian.
02:32:05.400
Again, there is a greater social pressure that exists within these communities.
02:32:12.820
Well, there's a greater social pressure, and then also just in terms of the faith itself, there's a greater pressure to remain married.
02:32:20.460
And I suspect that's a good thing, but, well, yeah, so I would say I would agree with you there.
02:32:29.980
But, I mean, you know, when it comes to religions, the trends are definitely pointing towards, you know, more and more people are becoming or are secular or less religious or not identifying as religious.
02:32:42.920
We do need to continue on with the Super Chats here.
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I'm so proud of you, and I know your dad would be too.
02:33:04.200
We talked about this in his chain in the beginning.
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I've become very spiritual, you know, I'm from beyond the grave.
02:33:19.460
I actually have a song dedicated to him when I found out about it.
02:33:23.540
If you want to check it out, Captain Bama Lamb.
02:33:32.640
And, Dad, if you're looking, thank you for everything you did.
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To the Christian guests, women don't marry for love.
02:34:21.000
They marry for financial security and lifestyle.
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Love does not mean anything without financial security.
02:34:47.560
No message attached, but really appreciate the patronage, man.
02:35:04.740
That was one of my opening lines when I had dating apps.
02:35:35.980
Hensley has been my favorite female on the show so far.
02:35:39.920
Guys, I don't know if you know ABBA and Preach, but they did a little reaction to our video.
02:35:58.760
Been watching from your 10-year-ago prank days.
02:36:04.060
The women here from watching your videos are what you need, mate.
02:36:12.380
I was in New Zealand for the Rugby World Cup 2011.
02:36:41.540
By the way, there's a bunch of sheep in New Zealand just saying.
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Just let life and its consequences humble her when she's a single mother reflecting on her
02:37:02.760
Real men out in the world do not think like this.
02:37:07.180
And it's scary that you guys believe that because I've met so many men that don't think
02:37:13.960
And I, in my eyes, I think they are high-value males.
02:37:23.580
There's men willingly, like, willingly asking to pay for my Amazon wish list.
02:37:33.940
Yo, by the way, guys, we have, right now, we have the most amount of people watching that
02:37:44.520
We have two, I think we went down a little bit, but I think we hit 2,000 concurrent.
02:38:20.340
It's been, you know, it was a struggle there with the first 50 shows, but glad to see that
02:38:26.280
Welcome to everyone new who is tuning in and watching.
02:38:36.140
Is this the same channel that used to do pickup pranks back in 2015?
02:38:43.440
I think I'm more maroon-pilled than black-pilled, but yeah, thank you, man.
02:38:52.200
I love the name, dude, especially when it comes to his TTS.
02:39:00.540
I truly think we don't take into consideration there are levels to peace coming from family
02:39:05.680
with equal earning partners with two independent people that can make a wonderful partnership
02:39:10.400
with still submissive wife, with a still submissive wife.
02:39:18.320
I mean, I'm not saying that just because a woman has a job that she's not going to be
02:39:23.420
It's the respect thing that might be the issue.
02:39:30.460
But I do think, though, like if you're like a really ambitious woman, not always, but in
02:39:37.020
order for you to be ambitious, there is a certain degree of cutthroatness and ruthlessness
02:39:43.320
that you need to adopt to be good in business because business is cutthroat and like corporate
02:39:51.460
There's fucking backstabbing and like politics, office politics.
02:39:57.600
So like, I mean, I could certainly I mean, look.
02:40:03.440
Could I support a girl and she's kind of like stay at home girlfriend?
02:40:07.760
Most of the women I date, they have their own careers.
02:40:16.820
Thomas, I can see the emotion in you talking about your late father.
02:40:25.640
He raised me and showed me what it's like to live with honor.
02:41:28.620
And I, I feel like in some ways I, my life is already stressful enough as it is.
02:41:33.860
So I don't know if adding kids to the equation is the right move.
02:41:38.780
If I came into an obscene amount of wealth where I could have like fucking nannies and
02:41:51.380
But like if, if I was like, I would not have kids under the following circumstances.
02:41:56.600
If I was struggling financially, no, no, no, no, absolutely not.
02:42:02.100
But if like me and my partner, if she's making money or I'm just the sole breadwinner and
02:42:06.400
I'm killing it under those circumstances, I will have kids.
02:42:09.320
That's where I'm trying to get, but we'll see how the, you know, how the, uh, what's
02:42:31.800
Dude, you've been super supportive tonight, man.
02:42:34.400
By the way, we will get the stream labs, super chats too.
02:42:41.840
Today, you only pursue money and it's fine, but at the end of the day, or at the end, you'll
02:42:50.460
Been a millionaire through honor, but could be a billionaire without joy or peace.
02:42:59.780
Uh, yeah, I mean, definitely more money, more problems.
02:43:02.420
Um, there's certain stresses that come with making more money.
02:43:15.940
Um, Ahmad, Ahmad Chayibi, thank you for the $20 soup chat.
02:43:20.620
Um, I learned somewhere on YouTube, a woman cares about a man's future while a man cares
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It's a man's job to attain a woman and it is a woman's job to retain her man.
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And typically this is used within the context of promiscuity and body count.
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So, women are typically a bit more concerned about a guy's ambition.
02:44:00.680
My question was what if the woman was the breadwinner?
02:44:05.840
So, what if, uh, because your previous soup chat didn't have anything attached to it.
02:44:14.020
Um, what, I'm just, what's the context of the question?
02:44:20.420
Like, for me, I guess, here, we'll take it, like, would we be cool if a woman was the breadwinner in the relationship?
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So, whenever I see that, I think the woman is not necessarily trying, per se, but it's emasculating me.
02:44:36.060
Like, if a woman, like, says, why are you holding a door for me type stuff?
02:44:43.620
Because if I'm supposed to be here and I'm supposed to be the man of the situation, then I'm going to take initiative.
02:44:51.440
She can make her own money cool, but the real, the reality of the situation is that I ain't seeing none of that money.
02:44:58.380
I might see it in, like, a form of, like, a gift here and there or whatever, but she's not going to pay my rent.
02:45:04.060
If she does, it's probably for, like, a month or two.
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She's like, this man ain't doing nothing for me.
02:45:09.740
So, why would, why would I allow myself to be in a situation where a girl's making more money than me?
02:45:18.020
But the thing is, is that there's a timer on that relationship.
02:45:20.840
If she's, like, because what, what people don't understand, what women don't understand is that a woman, a woman, a woman is going to typically date equal to or more than her current income status.
02:45:33.240
And so, whenever women want to, like, make all this money and think that that's what attracts a man, it's not.
02:45:43.640
What's your response because you were making a little face when I was talking?
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Just someone laughed kind of funny, so I don't know.
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And what really just got me was, like, the whole, like, timer on the relationship.
02:46:17.560
If the woman wants to be the breadwinner and you allow her to be, I think then that's up to her.
02:46:41.020
You can make your own money to support yourself.
02:46:44.160
I mean, that's essentially what society is right nowadays.
02:46:47.020
You know, you have to make money to support yourself.
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But whenever you're in a situation where a man can and will take care of you, why have
02:47:00.560
If something goes wrong, you get a divorce, you're screwed at the end of it.
02:47:07.580
Not even if you get a divorce, just if a breakup happens, if something goes wrong,
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like, why would you want to slowly depend on a man?
02:47:17.460
So my question was, in order to be independent, you have to be independent of something.
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And so if you're independent of a man and you don't need a man, then continue to do
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And of course, everyone has their own decisions.
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Not everyone is going into a relationship because a man has a lot of money.
02:47:44.240
Well, statistics show that the majority of women are.
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So you don't bring anything else to the table other than your money?
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Like, we keep going back to, like, statistically, financially.
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If you love a person, then that should be enough to stay with them.
02:48:09.740
When I like somebody, I get fucking obsessed with them.
02:48:13.380
Earlier in the show, you guys all stated that you wouldn't stay in there for long periods.
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If he feels that he can't provide anything to the woman he is with, there is no reason
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If that isn't there, you move to some girl that doesn't need you.
02:48:39.260
It's just like a question of masculinity, like, just like that comment said.
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Like, a man needs to feel needed and a man needs to feel like he can support his woman.
02:48:46.520
So, for me personally, I would actually have no issue dating a woman who makes more than
02:48:51.500
The reality is, though, is that most women aren't going to want to date a guy that makes
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And the primary reason that there's divorces is due to financial reasons.
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Like, finances are a huge reason why people break up, why people get divorced.
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It's a factor, but I don't think that it's everything.
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Like, women typically are not prepared to hold a man down long term.
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Like, we as men, we will be the sole breadwinner in the entire relationship, but a girl would
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not be prepared for, like, on a long timeline to continue supporting a guy in the same way
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that a guy would just be willing to continue supporting a woman.
02:49:48.800
So, being in a relationship with a guy who doesn't have a job, that was my last relationship
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He didn't have a job for almost the entirety of our relationship.
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I think, like, he wanted me to be a girl boss and get the promotion and be the provider.
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And he would say maybe he'll be the stay-at-home dad.
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And so, I kind of, like, was in a way seeing it like that, but that's not in our nature.
02:50:26.020
Like, for me, I want a family and I want to be able to be at home and take care of my kids
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That's what, and so, being in that relationship and being in a relationship like that,
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And it's just not in our nature for us to be in a relationship that way.
02:50:48.980
Like, you were even saying earlier, like, we have our roles for a man to provide
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and for the woman to submit and they'll be the home teacher.
02:51:02.680
That's what works in a healthy relationship, though.
02:51:06.440
If you want to have a healthy relationship, that's what works.
02:51:12.060
That's why divorce is at a whole-time high right now.
02:51:14.600
I'm a nanny, and I work for this one family, and the mom is the breadwinner.
02:51:18.860
She has her own, well, I don't want to say what she has, but she has, like, a well-established business.
02:51:28.220
And her husband, like, I don't know if he works, to be honest, but anytime I'm there, he's, like, always home,
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And he is, like, in love with this lady, and I've seen it, and I've experienced it.
02:52:01.700
I think at the end of the day, it all just boils down to who you choose to be with.
02:52:05.800
It's all about who you choose to love, and if you choose to support them, then that's fine.
02:52:09.580
Like, if you choose to slowly support your husband, or if you choose for your husband to slowly support you,
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I think it just boils down to who you love and who you want to be with.
02:52:17.020
Like, if you want to be taken care of, that is completely fine.
02:52:20.400
But other people, they want to be proud of themselves, and they want to be like,
02:52:36.780
Well, yeah, I think just to bring it back to my original point, like, I think a girl will hold you down for a little bit,
02:52:42.920
Some women are okay with being breadwinner, but, like, the vast majority of women,
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even if they're decent earners, and they have the ability to hold you down,
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Which shows how valuable I consider this show to be,
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and what Brian does for the world, tilting the scales in the right direction.
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Bangs, I can tell you're a good person at heart.
02:53:30.640
I wouldn't hold down a guy, but if a guy wants to provide whatever he wants for me,
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Like, if a guy wants to come into my life right now and be like,
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oh, like, I want you to be a stay-at-home mom, or if I want you,
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I want to make all the bread, I will let him do that.
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But until then, I'm going to hold my ground, and I'm going to provide for myself.
02:54:12.480
Yeah, you might be able to convince me to put a ring on it.
02:54:17.180
Okay, so did anyone want to continue on that, on the money thing?
02:54:25.960
Okay, let's continue with these soup chats here.
02:54:29.440
Can you pull up the Streamlabs chats, because we need to get to those?
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It's annoying, but she's honest in her beliefs.
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I think he doubled down on it with another soup chat.
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All right, and then we have Dex2, all the way to the top, Eric.
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By the way, thank you for all the gifted memberships, man.
02:56:08.400
Having a successful career or a successful family?
02:56:17.780
Yo, in the chat, I want Wmancer or Wancer or Welton.
02:56:57.900
She won't be on OEV if she didn't know that reality.
02:57:00.820
Ask them to rank not a number but rank most to least looks on the panel.
02:57:07.820
I think we're going to pass on that one, Ravi, but I appreciate the $20 soup chat.
02:57:41.960
Why would we buy the cow when women are giving up their milk for free modern women finessed
02:57:57.880
It's kind of like one of the reasons marriage was a thing is like, at least historically...
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Show us how little you care about this engagement.
02:58:19.520
Show us how little you care about my friend here.
02:58:22.480
Here, I'm going to have someone apologize on my behalf.
02:58:25.340
I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.
02:58:39.340
Isn't it bad luck to put it on your ring finger when you're not?
02:58:59.980
Can you do the Beyonce, like, you know, the single ladies one?
02:59:17.840
Dude, thank you guys so much for the support tonight.
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I'm, like, blown away by all the support tonight.
02:59:31.060
I think the chat is requesting Liz on this one.
02:59:36.580
Why so much emphasis on high-value men or women?
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What happened to, if you can't love me at my lowest, you don't deserve me at my highest?
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I'm Jade, and I'm not sure what you're talking about there, but I would like to take this opportunity
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I'd like to take this chance to absolutely nobody.
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Marriage in the eyes of the government and church are two separate things.
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One can be divorced legally, but not in the eyes of church.
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Okay, we have, let's see, Frank Brubb here, 20 euro.
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Why don't you let us know which European country you're in?
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On the subject of marriage, question for the girls.
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If you get pregnant, you have a 99% chance of losing the baby.
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Thank you, Frank, for that 20, excuse me, 20 euro soup chat.
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I don't know if you're from the French-speaking part of Canada, but common law in Canada can wreck your life in 12 months.
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Oh, this is in response to the, uh, yeah, I think so, and we have that in the U.S. too.
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There are some, by the way, men, I want you to Google this right now.
03:01:26.080
There are certain states in the U.S., it's called common law marriage.
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Even if you don't go to court and get married or have a ceremony, if you've cohabitated with a person for a certain period of time,
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the state will view you as having de facto been married, and you can be on the hook for alimony if you've been cohabitating with a boyfriend or girlfriend for a period of time.
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They'll basically treat it as if you were married, so just be careful if you're in a common law marriage state or in Canada.
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Bangs, I disagree with 90% of what you say, but I respect you for sticking.
03:02:08.460
To your beliefs, those high value men you speak of, they'll probably only want to smash you, not respect you.
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It's like the mic is just right in the way, so.
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Those high value men can speak of, though, probably only want to smash, not respect you.
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Yo, Praxis, actually, Liz, excuse me, go for it.
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You seem like a sweet girl who sadly had a negative experience that poisoned your views towards men.
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You'll find a HVM no problem if you ditch the wage gap nonsense.
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When have I ever talked about the wage gap nonsense on here?
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Anyways, you'll find a high value male, no problem.
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You can still get married and don't have to pay alimony.
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Actually, I should read it because it's Canada and stuff.
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Bangs will figure it out when men are turned off by her attitude.
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Well, Brian, maybe not you, but there is men out there.
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I'm promising if there's any girls watching, half the men don't think like this in the real world,
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I think it's because, so you said men don't like what?
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I guess they don't like it when, like, women have a voice.
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We don't want a doormat, but we want women who are peaceful and cooperative and submissive.
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I'm sorry that I'm not all those things right now, but you haven't seen me in a relationship.
03:05:02.220
I bet you have gnarly fucking arguments with your boyfriend.
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One time, me and my ex-boyfriend got into a really bad fight while he and I were at urgent care.
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To the point where people, we were, like, fighting in the parking lot, and I was, like, fucking hitting him with my purse and shit, because he wouldn't give me back my keys.
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And, like, we were, like, yelling at each other, like, really fucking hard.
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And people stopped their cars to, like, tell us to calm down.
03:05:40.920
But I think that, I think he and I, honestly, like, it was a really good relationship for a while.
03:05:54.040
One time, actually, one time I pulled over and I told him to get the fuck out of my car.
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And I was gonna make him walk back to his house.
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But, yeah, um, I think it, he just kind of almost brought out the worst in me a few times.
03:06:20.820
My ex-boyfriend and I, though, were, like, I was, like, very in love with him, though.
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Like, I would literally, like, go to his house.
03:06:28.820
No, I would go to his house and I would, like, I would open up the window and I would go into his room while he was sleeping and I'd wake him up.
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And, like, that was, like, the most romantic shit to him ever.
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Like, he and I were both, like, equally the same.
03:06:48.520
Well, we were together for much longer, but officially we were together for a year.
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Okay, so, a year ago, so this question might not hold any bearing, but you just said that you would do, be submissive in a relationship and you were in one and you did that.
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I mean, there's healthy ways to go about being angry and handling your emotions and then there's toxic ways.
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So, you think that you should just bottle it all up?
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No, you should have a conversation and be like, yo, this is how I feel.
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But if he's not being nice to her, then why should she be nice to him?
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Because that's a healthy relationship where you can actually.
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That's a healthy relationship where you can have civil discourse and actually come together with your problems and talk about, like, yo, this is the problem.
03:08:04.240
So you think a civil relationship is when a woman just keeps her motions to herself and, like, lets the man keep attacking her?
03:08:16.900
So a civil relationship is where, I'm going to say it again, where the problem is the issue, and we have an issue.
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Like, if you had an issue, you would be like, yo, we need to have a conversation right now.
03:08:30.300
You guys go outside, and I know emotions get tense, emotions get erratic, and you act on them.
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But a healthy relationship understands, like, yo, this is my emotion that I'm having right now.
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Yo, babe, I have an issue with what's going on, of how you're acting right now, what's been said, what you said.
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Whatever you're doing, it has to stop, because it doesn't matter anything going on.
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Because if you love that person, you'll say, everything else doesn't matter, but the issue that we're having right now actually matters.
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Where if you're throwing things at your man, that's a toxic trait.
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My, my, what you don't understand is that my ex took me to some certain lengths where I couldn't.
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Look on the Christian woman's face while Bangs was telling her boyfriend fight story was priceless.
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Bangs, damn emotional self-control is attractive.
03:09:54.220
By the way, guys, get your last, get some super chats in if you want.
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We're going to end to wrap up here pretty soon.
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I do need to get through the rest of the super chats.
03:10:03.720
By the way, guys, if you, if you submit your super chats or not super chats, your donations through stream labs, YouTube does not take their cut.
03:10:12.400
YouTube takes 30%, so if you want more of your patronage to go towards whatever, that's one way you can do it.
03:10:27.440
Okay, here, we'll have Liz be our honorary TTS voice.
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Men need respect, for a man with self-respect, activities, and behavior like OnlyFans are a deal breaker.
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Guys with no respect for you or themselves are all that's left.
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I do believe in redemption, not condemnation, just facts.
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Props the Christian, or, yeah, props the Christians, misspelled.
03:11:05.760
So what I was saying to, I'm sorry, I'm, it seemed like they didn't understand the question that you gave them,
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so I wanted to reiterate what you were saying, but you ended up making it sound perfect, so you're good.
03:11:21.440
All right, let me just continue on with the soup chats here.
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Yo, Lake Show, thank you for the $20 soup chat.
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It's the nature of a man to provide security, safety, et cetera.
03:11:34.260
The Western culture enables competition rather than completion.
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I don't think I used that word right, but thank you, Lake Show.
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I time-traveled back to 2023 to tell you that you better ask Brianna out on a date or else
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Is that like one of those AI artificially generated-
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So maybe he got us mixed up and thinks that she's-
03:12:42.100
Oh, well, I mean, I already proposed to her, so it's kind of-
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Brian Jr. is cock blocking me here, by the way.
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Because you said you don't want kids, so I'm just like wondering, to be honest.
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What makes you think I'd want to sleep with you?
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I'm saying just any girl, if you got her pregnant, okay?
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Are you going to be a deadbeat dad if you get a girl pregnant?
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Because you said you don't want kids, so I'm just wondering, like, would you stick around?
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You didn't even, like, you just hooked up with this girl, and now she's coming.
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And now this girl's coming, she's like, I'm pregnant.
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I'd hope that we're more safe than that, but I mean-
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Whether a woman gets pregnant or not, especially if it's, like, a one-night stand or, like,
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we've been dating for a very short period of time, I mean, the relationship is the factor.
03:14:07.080
So, if she's an awful person, I'm not going to-
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Will I want, you know, am I going to be involved in the child's life?
03:14:43.180
Like, you wouldn't even want to meet the kid, get to know him.
03:14:51.080
I mean, yeah, I mean, I haven't really given this question much thought, so I'd want to
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maybe meditate on it for a little bit, but I would certainly pay child support.
03:15:08.280
If it was like a one-night stand and she's a horrible human being, for example, then I
03:15:13.120
don't know how involved I'd want to be just because I don't want that toxicity in my life.
03:15:37.180
Because then you're just putting a kid without a father figure.
03:15:40.980
Oh, so kind of like what you're saying, basically like what abortion is.
03:15:50.240
Oh, I thought this was like almost coming from the framing of an-
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Because this is like often like, well, it can be framed from an abortion point of view,
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but I don't know if you guys want to talk into that.
03:16:00.900
I mean, I think we may have some people who are pro-life at the panel.
03:16:07.140
This is a dating podcast, not an abortion where it's health, reproductive organs, you know?
03:16:15.900
So you asked him if he got a girl accidentally pregnant, if he would stay.
03:16:20.380
Well, if a man cheats on you, would you stay for the kid?
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Like if your man cheated on you and you guys had a kid, yeah, and you guys had a kid, would you stay for the kid?
03:16:41.040
If I forget to, sometimes I forget to take down these soup chats.
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Just after 20 or 30 seconds, you just feel free to hide it.
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So my question was, if you found out your man was cheating, whether he told you or you found out, would you stay for your kid?
03:17:01.460
If I found out, I wouldn't stay married to him.
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Because I'm not going, like, he's done, if he's taking care of me, if he's providing for me, if I'm his number one girl, if there's no other person, yeah, okay, you had sex with somebody, if you came out to me and said, hey, I fucked somebody and I'm so sorry, yeah, it would hurt and I would have trust issues and we'd have to go above and beyond to make it work so that I do end up trusting you again.
03:17:29.720
But if I had to find out in another way and he was hiding it from me, then no.
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So just to answer your question really quick, I would want to be involved in the kid's life contingent upon the fact that the relationship that I have with the girl, whether we're continue dating or not, so long as that is a positive relationship.
03:17:52.960
If she's, like, just super toxic, I'd probably have to opt out, honestly.
03:17:58.440
But so long as it's, like, there's no conflict in the relationship with the bio mom, then, but I don't, I'm going to be, well, I don't have, men don't really have any reproductive rights, so I don't have, I mean, I've made it far enough that it's never been an issue so far.
03:18:18.200
But I would try to avoid being in that situation to begin with, and thus far I've not had that be an issue.
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That has to do with men who don't even pay child support.
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I would certainly pay child support at the minimum.
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But I would still, you know, obviously I wouldn't have an obligation to the children.
03:18:45.680
We can have a conversation about how child support needs, in much the same way that the marriage laws needs to be adjusted.
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Because, for example, women, I think child support payments should be put in the same way, like, with EBT, like, food stamps or whatever.
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You can only buy food with the money that the government gives you.
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You can't, like, go buy video games with the money that the government gives you for food, CalFresh, EBT, food stamps or whatever it's called.
03:19:20.180
Much the same way, if you pay a woman child support, it should be, like, a separate account she can only use towards the kid.
03:19:28.440
You can't go get your nails done with the money from the child support.
03:19:33.440
Yeah, you should be able to show, like, receipts that the money that you're getting.
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Because, like, there's nothing kind of regulating how women spend the money they receive from child support.
03:19:47.540
It's literally just going into her bank account that I suppose she could spend towards child support.
03:20:04.520
He would probably do the right thing and be as involved as possible while being as separated from the woman as possible if she were toxic.
03:20:12.580
However, probably wouldn't have hooked up with the toxic girl in the first place.
03:20:17.040
Yeah, I mean, safe sex, birth control, there's, you know, being careful.
03:20:24.140
Yeah, so, okay, let me continue on with these soup chats here because we do have quite a few and I want to try to get through them.
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That being with a woman that makes more isn't a problem.
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It's those same, it's that, it's those some of women that don't appreciate those inverted roles is where divorce and conflict comes.
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That's where love and respect comes to play that lacks currently.
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Also, the divorce rate is higher when the woman is the breadwinner.
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It's also higher if she's college educated, interestingly enough.
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And he's got the little backwards cap going on, shit.
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Not having kids is short-sighted for you, Brian.
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Longest lasting joy for both men and women will come from building their families together and staying loyal to each other.
03:21:43.280
Yeah, I mean, like I, again, I'm kind of on the fence when it comes to kids.
03:21:48.280
It's not a definitive yet, but I feel like I've just, I've had a lot of difficulties in my life and I, some of those are health related.
03:22:05.920
It's, I would want to be there as much as I possibly could for kids because obviously your kids are dependent on you.
03:22:17.620
And I've been in, I've had experiences in my life, not currently the case, but for example, I broke my back a couple years ago at L5S1.
03:22:28.860
That was, that would have not been a good time to have children.
03:22:34.340
And obviously shit happens, people get in car crashes and stuff.
03:22:39.000
But I, I, that experience made me realize like kind of how vulnerable humans are.
03:22:45.960
And, you know, you're, like I said, your kids are dependent on you.
03:22:49.620
So to deal with the stress of like a chronic injury and then, I don't know.
03:23:04.240
We got to get a little heated, I think, before the end.
03:23:07.020
You said, what's, what can I get you upset about?
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Should we, should we save it for round three, you think?
03:23:24.900
So the big thing I think people were talking about is, do, do I bring it there?
03:23:34.460
Uh, you said last show, the big spat that you had with John was about oppression.
03:23:45.320
Yeah, because I'm going to, I already know what you're going to ask me.
03:23:52.120
But it's not my job to school you on something that you should have learned in school.
03:23:55.580
Women have been oppressed and women still are oppressed because there are little child
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There are black women, um, disabled women that experience, um, oppression all the time.
03:24:18.400
Yeah, because the question was how, uh, was how women have been oppressed.
03:24:22.560
And I'm just going to say it's not my job to educate you and school you on that.
03:24:27.720
If I reject your presuppositions, then you do need to explain to me.
03:24:37.480
I'm like, I'm telling you, like, it's not my job to school you.
03:24:42.820
And honestly, it's a little scary that you don't know how women have been oppressed in
03:24:47.200
the past because, like, this country was, like, built for men and these, like, laws and
03:24:54.140
rules, like, all, they all, um, they're, it's all to, like, for men, you know?
03:25:02.860
And, like, this podcast enough is showing me that sexism is still really alive.
03:25:13.160
There, I was posted on so many Red Pill and Cell accounts.
03:25:21.800
I don't even know where to start tackling this.
03:25:24.080
So, um, women were oppressed in history, but so were men.
03:25:34.960
See, now this is interesting because if I say how were women were oppressed, you're like,
03:25:55.540
Male oppression was never taught in school, but women, females oppression was.
03:26:04.300
If, if men's grievances throughout history are overlooked, who's the real one that's oppressed?
03:26:13.160
Perhaps you don't even believe men are oppressed.
03:26:22.960
So many men literally kill women all the time over domestic violence and domestic abuse to the point where.
03:26:37.720
Yeah, there is a lot of violence against women.
03:26:39.180
But when you think of oppression, what, what is your definition of oppression?
03:26:44.340
Um, I don't know really how to explain it, to be honest.
03:26:48.500
I mean, you use the word, you ought to know how to define it, if you just use the word.
03:26:53.540
Yeah, I just don't know exactly how to, like, why do you want me to explain that?
03:26:57.920
Well, I mean, you've used a word, you ought to be able to.
03:27:01.320
You just want to embarrass me, and I'm going to tell you this now.
03:27:03.600
It's not going to happen, Brian, because guess what?
03:27:08.720
Because we're, because we're having a polite conversation?
03:27:13.520
We talked about this last podcast, so why do you want to bring it up again?
03:27:17.500
Okay, well, I'm not going to say anything else, because it's not my job to school you and educate you, Brian.
03:27:22.880
And I'm not going to say anything else, and I'm going to stay quiet now.
03:27:24.820
I mean, that's, that's a very convenient way to shut down an otherwise polite conversation.
03:27:30.700
I, I gave you an opportunity to speak, so I, I think you should.
03:27:40.680
Why, why is this such a sensitive subject for you?
03:27:49.180
I didn't even want to come here in the first place.
03:27:57.200
Okay, well, and, but what, but why don't you want to have this conversation?
03:28:03.980
Like, we can have a, can you stop interrupting?
03:28:07.160
We can have a good faith conversation about this.
03:28:11.360
Like, I don't understand why we can't just have a.
03:28:17.040
Nanny, you condemned domestic violence, but openly admitted to assaulting your ex-boyfriend with your purse.
03:28:23.580
Like, we can, it's totally okay to have a conversation about, I suppose, what, what is for you an uncomfortable subject.
03:28:33.700
But I don't see why you need to shut down the conversation.
03:28:38.500
Yeah, but I just don't want to answer it, Brian.
03:28:46.220
Anytime that I see females bring up women oppression on podcast, they never give examples, but instead they just say, look it up all that you should already know.
03:28:56.140
So many, like, why do, why would I have to explain it to you, Brian?
03:29:02.400
I'm not going to say anything more about it because I feel uncomfortable talking about it.
03:29:07.020
But you weren't uncomfortable until I started pushing back on you.
03:29:10.320
Yeah, because it's coming from a place of hate.
03:29:17.240
Okay, my super chat budget is getting a bit strained now.
03:29:21.040
However, Bangs, please watch the documentary, The Red Pill by Cassie J.
03:29:26.880
It made a very good impression on my previously negative and feminist girlfriend.
03:29:38.540
A lot of people in both Red Pill, Blue Pill community could benefit from this conversation.
03:29:47.920
And this is, again, back to the previous conversation where this is the problem.
03:30:01.280
He literally said, let's make it, let's make it spicy or whatever.
03:30:05.440
Like, let's get you heated because he knows that's going to get him good revenue.
03:30:11.520
It's because you want to know why it gets so many views?
03:30:14.100
It's because this is the problem that we're facing.
03:30:16.720
So, if we're able to actually have this conversation, I would also like to understand your point of view.
03:30:21.920
I understand, like, it could come off as a bit, like, attacking.
03:30:24.660
But a lot of people out there, a majority of people, are trying to understand the situation, men and women.
03:30:33.220
But no matter anything I say, it's still not going to change your guys' beliefs because you guys, like, live by this.
03:30:46.680
The purpose of debate isn't necessarily to convince the person that you're debating with.
03:31:08.180
So, the purpose of a debate is not necessarily to convince the other person.
03:31:17.820
But it's just interesting because you, I gave you a minute, two minutes to explain your position.
03:31:25.220
And then when I push back a little bit, you're like, no, we're done.
03:31:29.040
Yeah, because I don't, I just, I don't have the time.
03:31:33.580
And honestly, I don't want, I don't want to, like, argue right now, to be honest.
03:31:36.940
Maybe if you brought it up, like, a little bit sooner, like, I'm kind of worn out, to be honest.
03:31:46.100
I think I will, I don't expect you to respond, and you don't have to respond, but I will at least address the points that you brought up.
03:31:53.820
So, you said that, you said that, basically, the patriarchy theory, that men built this country for other men.
03:32:08.240
However, men didn't build it for the benefit of other men.
03:32:12.340
They built it for their families, their wives, their sons, their daughters.
03:32:18.140
So, I agree with you that, yes, this country and all countries, in fact, have been built on the backs of men.
03:32:28.320
In fact, they've actually done studies on this.
03:32:33.560
So, men have an out-group bias for women, whereas women have an in-group bias for other women.
03:32:43.880
There's not a brotherhood amongst men, at least to the same degree that there's a sisterhood amongst women.
03:32:51.400
Every single thing that you see around you, the buildings you live in, the streets you drive in,
03:32:56.960
the infrastructure that you rely on to survive, was all built, created, and is maintained by good, honest, hardworking men that simply want to provide for their family.
03:33:12.120
It's just men that want to work and provide for their family.
03:33:19.020
Because men were subject to military conscription.
03:33:22.640
Because women didn't want to vote, either, at some point.
03:33:25.500
Because if they voted, then that means they have to be drafted, too.
03:33:32.380
By the way, throughout the vast majority of human history, men didn't have the vote, either.
03:33:37.020
There was a small percentage of men who had power.
03:33:40.100
The rest of the men were also oppressed, alongside all of the women that were oppressed.
03:33:45.060
It was like, you know, previously you had tyrants and kings and dictators.
03:33:53.700
Voting came around in, like, broadly speaking, in the 1900s, the late 1800s, 1900s, and now obviously.
03:34:02.740
Well, in 1920 is when women got the right to vote.
03:34:14.180
The way men had the right to vote was because of warfare.
03:34:17.560
Because men could be drafted and sent to fucking the Maginot line in France and go in the trenches and get trench foot and get chemical gassed.
03:34:26.800
And to this day, women were able to secure the vote without the corresponding responsibility.
03:34:38.580
That responsibility is you have to die for your country.
03:34:43.140
It's crazy when we don't go in her direction or we put forward an argument.
03:34:49.420
She uses words that she doesn't know the definition.
03:35:00.560
When it comes to voting, basically, men to this day are subject to military conscription.
03:35:08.940
I don't know if you've heard of the selective service system.
03:35:39.660
That's why men got the right to vote before women.
03:35:44.120
I think still to this day, women don't want to be drafted.
03:35:51.180
You don't see any women pushing back saying, I want to be drafted.
03:35:56.100
Yeah, but if women were oppressed, they would be doing that.
03:35:59.760
No, because the reason why women aren't drafted or put on the front line is because women
03:36:13.320
They're putting men because men are stronger, biologically stronger, biologically.
03:36:23.360
Yes, men, generally speaking, are more suited for warfare.
03:36:36.060
Now, I mean, in today's modern warfare, does someone, does someone, well, physical strength
03:36:41.180
is still a factor, but, you know, I mean, the way we conduct warfare now is very different.
03:36:47.860
So, women can participate much more to some degree.
03:36:50.340
In combat roles, it's still, I mean, in any case, we don't need to get into the whole military
03:36:57.280
thing, but the difference is, if we're talking about equality, though, disregard, well, maybe
03:37:06.820
There's, let's say an 18-year-old man who doesn't want to go to war, doesn't want to go get
03:37:19.960
You could not leave Ukraine if you were a man between the ages of 18 and like 60 or 65.
03:37:24.540
While all the women in Ukraine, actually, I matched with some girls on fucking Tinder,
03:37:30.540
like when the shit was heavy as fuck in Ukraine, when Kiev was getting scorched up, I was matching
03:37:36.980
with chicks on fucking Tinder and hinge and shit.
03:37:41.920
If you're a Ukrainian woman, you get to go to Stockholm, you get to go to Great Britain,
03:38:07.200
And I mean, the Ukrainian military brass or the, you know, the president, they don't want
03:38:19.840
So, I mean, but they have to defend their country.
03:38:33.480
If World War III, I'll tell you this, if World War III is around the corner, there's no feminists
03:38:49.700
But what I'm saying is, is that, what I'm saying is, is that all these things that you
03:38:57.480
often complain about, like when society, when shit hits the fan, we revert to our traditional
03:39:07.420
You can't have feminism when, when there's a military conflict.
03:39:14.700
I would say y'all fought for equality for the longest time and then society overcorrected.
03:39:19.620
And now women have a little bit more privilege than men do.
03:39:32.020
No, I just, I'm just asking, like genuinely asking, because I thought like the military was
03:39:37.560
When it comes to a world war three, they're going to have to draft.
03:39:40.720
And also, also, even if the likelihood, there hasn't been a draft in a long time.
03:39:46.660
However, there are still men alive today that were drafted.
03:39:50.620
Many of those, many of those men got sent to Korea, got sent to Vietnam.
03:39:54.960
Those men came back with catastrophic post-traumatic stress disorder.
03:40:01.860
I don't know why the fuck we were in Vietnam to begin with.
03:40:05.720
But there are other, if you don't, as a man, if you don't register for the selective service,
03:40:11.360
if you don't register for the draft, it's technically a felony.
03:40:16.420
Also, if you don't register, you can't apply for federal student aid.
03:40:25.900
Also, you're barred from certain federal jobs if you don't register for the selective service
03:40:32.900
Again, there is no equivalent requirement for women to have to register, for example.
03:40:39.640
So, and just to add to this thing, women were absolutely oppressed, but as were men.
03:40:49.620
I guess what I'm trying to say is, and I think it's a terrible kind of shifting of history.
03:40:56.360
For the longest period of time, life was so incredibly difficult for both, for everyone.
03:41:03.440
We live the most coddled, privileged, easy lives.
03:41:08.140
Modernity has created, like, the comforts of modernity cannot be understated.
03:41:26.120
Electricity, plumbing, running water, hot water, showers 200 years ago.
03:41:33.520
Imagine, people get grumpy if they can't have a hot shower after a couple days.
03:41:37.400
And motherfuckers didn't have a hot shower their entire life.
03:41:41.620
So it's just, what I'm trying to arrive at is that life was incredibly difficult for both men and women.
03:41:51.860
Men and women cooperated throughout all human history.
03:41:54.680
And I think it's a disastrous retelling of history to say, men oppressed women, women were the oppressed.
03:42:02.360
It teaches women to basically have contempt for and hatred for men, when in reality, it was a very small, very, very small percentage of men.
03:42:11.360
And it's not necessarily because they were men that had all the power.
03:42:23.880
But I don't like this retelling of history that men were always the oppressor and women were the oppressed.
03:42:30.860
Nanny, you probably don't have to explain yourself to the kids you care for.
03:42:35.820
However, in the real world, you cannot make aimless, ludicrous statements and not substantiate them.
03:42:52.440
And then I need to get through all these Super Chats.
03:42:56.920
Before this DTS comes in, does anyone here, like, and it's going to come up here pretty soon, unless it was cock blocked by the previous one.
03:43:05.360
Does anyone here have, like, a question that they want to pose to the panel?
03:43:23.240
At Bangs, what are some privileges that men have that women don't have now?
03:43:29.340
I'm done talking about the whole privilege and oppression thing.
03:43:39.440
In good faith, can you at least just answer it?
03:44:08.740
Let me try to run through these soup jazzes as quick as I can.
03:44:25.580
Brian, please explain to the 20-year-old child sitter that men put women into two categories.
03:44:31.980
I'm assuming that word is supposed to be sex only or relationship potential.
03:44:36.580
She's conflating the latter for what men are actually giving her attention for.
03:44:43.520
So, I mean, basically, don't get sexual attraction confused with relationship attractions.
03:44:50.140
So, men who will sleep with you, they may not necessarily be in a relationship with you.
03:44:59.500
So, but sometimes people will get that confused because I feel like for a lot of women, in order for you to sleep with a guy, in terms of physical attraction, he has to be at least attractive enough for you to consider being in a relationship with him.
03:45:13.400
Whereas for men, it's pretty much the opposite.
03:45:15.860
We will sleep with women who we would never have a relationship with.
03:45:21.520
Yeah, men will stick their pee-pee in anything.
03:45:32.100
I saw a video of a guy doing something to a rat.
03:45:36.400
Yo, what kind of weird shit are you looking at?
03:46:03.620
I remember when I was like a little younger, like back in high school, guy sent me a video
03:46:20.920
Have you ever seen like a, just a thick loveseat?
03:46:27.480
Yo, you see that Grace couch over there I have?
03:46:49.900
Regarding common law marriage in Canada, you can also be held responsible for child support
03:46:54.800
for children that aren't yours if they see you as a father figure.
03:46:58.660
Something else to consider if you date and live with a single mother.
03:47:08.340
Dreyf, I think you guys got to come to the U.S. or let's all, I don't know.
03:47:25.160
The fact that a woman on the panel openly had admitted to beating her ex and no other
03:47:30.280
woman called her out is proof we don't live in a patriarchy.
03:47:40.260
You guys are acting like I fucking, like, keep this dude up.
03:47:46.540
Well, he had my keys and he wouldn't give them back.
03:47:52.880
I wasn't, what did she, Amber Heard, what did she say?
03:47:55.180
She was like, Johnny, I wasn't, I wasn't punching you.
03:48:08.740
Ladies, why should a man provide relationship security when unconditional love does not exist?
03:48:25.940
Unconditional love, it does not exist because love is a choice.
03:48:37.380
Like unconditional love, I mean, that person can do anything to you, but you will continue
03:48:44.980
But if they're like, they're constantly cheating on you or beating you or whatever, then unconditional
03:49:22.200
Good to see there's still, fuck, there's still some hope in the dating scene.
03:49:39.840
Good to see that there's still some hope in the dating scene for the good men out there.
03:50:08.920
Wait, did this, wait, did this one, did we, this one come through as a TTS?
03:50:27.980
That's probably why I was called a simp earlier.
03:50:30.620
Sometimes, one needs to face a sobering reality in order to grow as a human being.
03:50:49.620
I just have to say that I appreciate that you'll still respect everyone on here, Brian,
03:50:56.320
You argue logically and show them respect, not comment.
03:51:01.420
Yeah, a lot of people say my patience is pretty good.
03:51:07.420
But yeah, I mean, I try to just keep a level head when it comes to debating, and I just argue
03:51:14.680
I don't get emotional if someone disagrees with me.
03:51:34.940
Before we wrap up here, final thoughts, anybody?
03:51:37.860
Does anyone have a final thought before we wrap up?
03:51:44.960
Do you think the man is valuable in the relationship?
03:51:49.960
Do you think the man is the prize in the relationship, or is it the woman?
03:51:57.340
I think the man would be the prize, and he could be like, well, she's the prize.
03:52:06.800
Well, of course I wouldn't be with them unless I thought, like, all this, like, amazing stuff about them.
03:52:12.580
So in my eyes, yeah, they're the prize, I guess.
03:52:15.940
I think if I was, like, in a relationship with somebody that I really liked, I'd be like, yeah, I hit the jackpot with them, because I just would love them so much, you know?
03:52:29.340
I think they're both prizes in their own different ways.
03:52:39.760
I don't think that this world would be the same without a man, if that's what you're saying.
03:52:44.600
Like, I think this world is better that men are in it.
03:52:50.120
Well, in, like, in the way that, like, the woman should view the man as a trophy and the man should view the woman as a trophy.
03:52:58.000
That, like, you should both adore each other and love each other the exact same amount.
03:53:01.980
For it to work and, like, to be, like, a healthy relationship.
03:53:04.860
One person shouldn't be, like, the only valuable person in the relationship, you know?
03:53:15.740
I don't even think you asked that last time, to be honest.
03:53:19.560
Because you said all women are tens, but not all men are tens.
03:53:24.160
If I was in a relationship, to me, and I really like them.
03:53:30.420
I'm just saying, like, if I was in a relationship and I really like them.
03:53:33.620
If I was in a relationship and I really like them, then, yeah, like, to me, like, that person's a prize.
03:53:37.860
That person's a trophy, and I love them, and I'm happy to be with them.
03:53:44.880
How many, or how long do you wait until hooking up with a guy?
03:53:52.960
I think not immediately, but if you feel like you have a connection with him right off the bat,
03:54:02.240
and you think that it's something real, and, like, it's not just going to be, you know, like, a one-night thing.
03:54:13.680
I guess it just depends on how quickly your relationship moves.
03:54:17.660
Sometimes they can move pretty fast, so it just depends on the connection you have with the person, I think.
03:54:32.660
Let's see if they're actually committed to you.
03:54:48.940
So, it's, like, a rule, like, if they really wanted to commit to you and not just use you for your body,
03:54:53.700
then they'll, like, be with you longer than three months or up to three months.
03:55:02.440
So, why does the person that you find actually valuable, that you actually want to commit to and share life with,
03:55:15.620
So, all men are talking to women because we all want to procreate.
03:55:20.580
They're talking to you because they want to fuck.
03:55:22.600
And so, if you had a one-night stand and you're going to make the man that you actually want to have, like, a life with,
03:55:37.300
I would just say that if I wanted, like, if I saw this man, I feel like I date for marriage.
03:55:43.500
So, so far I've only had one ex that I planned on marriage.
03:55:49.220
I made him wait more than three months, actually.
03:55:54.060
But I feel like if I was looking for something in that specific man that I would want, like, to last for marriage,
03:56:02.400
then I would make him, I guess, feel like I could trust him in that kind of way.
03:56:08.800
So, like, be able to commit to him and only him.
03:56:16.720
I'm not making anyone wait right now, but yeah.
03:56:18.600
Right, but you said you have a three-month rule.
03:56:20.500
So, you find a guy and he knows this information.
03:56:29.700
But then you don't make these one-night stands wait.
03:56:35.780
Is she looking for a relationship with that one-night stand?
03:56:42.640
Because there is a big difference with pursuing a relationship with somebody and just wanting to hook up with somebody.
03:56:50.080
But I don't like how we compartmentalize how we treat sex.
03:56:55.680
Like, okay, if you don't want anything from the guy and you just want casual sex, oh, just fuck him right away.
03:57:02.600
Whereas the guy who you actually value and he values you and he wants a relationship with you, make him wait.
03:57:09.640
Like, why can't you just either – I think you honestly should have the same standard across the board.
03:57:15.980
I think you're – look, you're free to move however you want.
03:57:19.440
But it should either be, like, if your standard is, hey, make a guy – make guys wait.
03:57:26.380
You shouldn't be giving it – like, giving it up to some guy who's not worthy of a relationship.
03:57:57.800
So, we were talking about, you know, this whole hooking up thing.
03:58:05.620
Have you had, like, hookups, just casual hookups or friends with benefits or anything?
03:58:08.820
So, when I – like, I guess the one-night stand that I've had, I was looking for something more than just a one-night stand.
03:58:16.180
But in order to, like, I guess, feel like they wanted me, I felt, like, obligated to sleep with them, if that makes sense.
03:58:24.460
So, in that case, I feel like in order to see if, like, they actually wanted something, like, long-term with me, I had to sleep with them just because – not had to.
03:58:36.840
But, like, I felt obligated to just to see if they, like, actually wanted me for me.
03:58:41.920
You – one-night stand, you met the guy the same night you had sex with him.
03:59:01.980
We had talked – like, we had been talking for a while before.
03:59:07.020
Okay, it wasn't a one-night stand, but go ahead.
03:59:09.180
So, we had been talking, like, a while, but I guess, like, we only, like, hooked up once, if that makes sense.
03:59:14.160
So, how long had you been talking to him before you guys hooked up?
03:59:18.340
Ah, so even talking to a guy for two months did not prevent him from –
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See, I think, I mean, there are definitely guys out there that will mislead women into thinking that they want a relationship.
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But I also think that the way most adult relationships start nowadays, it's not, hey, let's wait three months, let's go on ten dates, and then have sex.
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It's, let's hook up, continue hooking up, and then we've now found ourselves in a relationship.
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There's some guys, at least for me, some guys definitely judge – like, if a girl hooks up too soon, they'll judge a girl.
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Because all of my long-term relationships, I've had a five-year relationship, two-year relationship, one-year relationship, all those girls, like, it was either the second or third night.
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I think one of them we hooked up, like, the first night even.
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So, I don't think hooking up early on necessarily means that you can't – a long-term relationship can't flourish from that.
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Did you want to come – did you want to respond?
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So, a thing that a man thinks whenever – the reason why I asked if it was a one-night stand specific – real quick, did you have a one-night stand?
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Okay, so, for the next man that you have, and if – this goes for any female that had a one-night stand before, a man's going to think, like, oh, my God, so this girl's had sex with one guy the day she met him.
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So, it's going to emasculate him internally in his mind and be like, okay, this girl's not someone I can really take seriously because if she's having one-night stands with that guy, probably do it with somebody else.
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And not only that, it could put a seed in his mind.
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Like, she'll bounce whenever she's not entertained enough.
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I actually think men nowadays are supposed to be, like, modern-life jesters for people because if a girl's not entertained, she gets bored, she leaves him, and that's not cool.
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Yeah, also, like, if a girl – like, I've actually had this experience.
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I actually had a recent dating experience where this girl – I hung out with her, like, three or four times, and, look, not – ultimately, your decision, like, it's not going to be, like, you know –
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But, like, I had a conversation with her, and she was telling me, like – hold on.
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So, she told me that she hooked up, like, a month earlier.
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Like, the first night she met the guy, she hooked up with him.
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Like, they make me wait, and then they tell me, hey, like, I had a hoe phase.
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And I'm like, the way it makes me feel is you just aren't attracted to me in that way.
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If you're attracted to a guy, you never tell them about your past, to be honest.
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Well, no, it's not about her telling me my past.
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She's probably just trying to hurt you, Brian, if I'm going to be honest with you.
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But, like, the thing is, is that my sense is, is if she had genuine burning desire for those men.
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Why would a man think you are the prize when hundreds of other men have already unwrapped you?
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Like, people can change how they move, like, previously if you had a hoe phase and party phase, whatever, and then now you want to wait.
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But I feel like a lot of men are going to feel a certain type of way about that.
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To be honest, I don't think a guy has ever asked me this or has been respectful about my past.
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Like, I know you guys, like, tend to ask about body count.
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And I just wanted to say, no guy has ever asked me about body count until I went on this podcast.
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I'm not going to say it because I'm not sleeping with any of you guys.
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So, I think that's a discussion for the person that I will be sleeping with.
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Like, just the men that I've encountered have never been that way.
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Like, I'm just going to assume that she's just not that into me.
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Like, if it's her standard across the board and, like, all the guys she's been with, she waited.
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But it's like, I've had girls tell me, yeah, I've previously hooked up with, like, 30 dudes.
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However, I also have the right to feel a certain type of way about that.
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Because, also, as a man, you want a girl who has genuine burning desire for you.
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If she doesn't have that kind of desire for you, like, if she doesn't want you as much as you want her, here's what I start thinking.
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I'm like, okay, she's going to leverage sex in the relationship for compliance.
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How else is she going to leverage sex to do chores?
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If I, you know, we have some, like, debate, or if we have some argument.
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You never, you don't want to be with a girl who leverages sex against you to get compliance.
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If I have to, I don't want to convince a girl to sleep with me.
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I want a girl who's, like, wants me as bad as I want her.
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And if you don't have that, it's just, like, why, I don't know, why play these games?
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Like, in some sense, like, waiting with a guy instead of just, like, hooking up with them right away could be, like, like, you, like, want to wait and see if he's committed.
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With other guys, like, all you want to do is have sex with them.
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Just, like, how some guys just jump into bed with, like, girls randomly.
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Yeah, well, I mean, I think you have to look at the guy and try, and, look, some guys are sociopathic.
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No, I'm going to say something, and you guys are probably.
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Okay, that's why you have to stop sleeping with loser men, because they will change.
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They will do anything for pussy, and they will fucking change.
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Look, are there some manipulative men out there that are going to lie about that?
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And also, like, a lot of guys, a lot of guys, and comedians have been talking about this.
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Men will wait, and then they'll sleep with you, and then they're gone, and then they're
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Because they won the prize, and now they're done, and they want to go.
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I know somebody personally that does that stuff, and it's, dude, like, come on, man.
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But me personally, as someone who strongly prefers continuity, like, if I sleep with
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To me, there's no point of having a one-night stand.
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One, just because I don't, to me, it's a very shallow exchange.
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I certainly value more, like, of a, honestly, the way a woman can impress me, it's not in
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But, like, the way you're going to impress me is outside the relationship.
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But, okay, shit, sorry, I lost my train of thought.
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So, I am not interested in casual sex, one-night stands.
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Like, I've always, always wanted to, if I sleep with a girl, I want to keep seeing
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Well, I mean, relationships have to develop, but, like, my philosophy is always, also, it's
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Even if sex was your primary motivation, first off, the first time you have sex with a girl
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is not going to be the best time you have sex with her.
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Also, once you have a connection, and if she loves you and you love her, the sex is going
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It's going to be way better if you have that connection.
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And specifically on a physical point, from a physical point, she knows exactly what you
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And I think the sex just only gets better the more, the longer you've been with a girl.
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You start doing extra work in the bedroom whenever you know that you, like, have a passion.
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And from a purely practical point of view, too.
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If a girl doesn't have any feelings for me, and she's sleeping with me, like, that pales
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in comparison to a girl that genuinely loves you, and she's sleeping with you.
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I was just going to say, having sex with somebody that you're genuinely attracted to and genuinely
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Like, I think it's, like, sex is a beautiful thing.
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And to do it with somebody that you really, really love is, I think, like, I don't know.
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Like, when I was in a relationship and when I was in love, I thought that was, like, amazing,
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I did have a hoe phase, whatever you want to call it.
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Like, I don't think I was really gaining anything from, you know, just hooking up with guys.
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A few of them actually cheated on their girls with me.
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I mean, the advice I would give women to vet men is, one, you can just straight up ask them.
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The other thing I would suggest is just look at, are they a fuckboy?
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And then the other thing is, is, one, obviously you can avoid this situation by, for me, for example.
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If I find, if I match with a girl on Hinge, for example, on a dating app, and I know she's a tourist.
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It's not worth my time to fuck you one time and never talk to you again.
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But that's, I guess what I'm trying to say is, is like, obviously, if the guy's a tourist, if he's in town, you can look at, like, how he moves.
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That guy's probably less likely to be looking for commitment than a different kind of guy.
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So there's definitely a lot of ways you can sort of suss it out.
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One last thing to kind of try to explain why, this is an analogy here, why men, like, have an issue with this whole, oh, hold on.
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If a guy is just looking for a hookup, he doesn't care about your body count, so why bother asking?
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I think even for a hookup or one night stand, like, would our preference even for a hookup be for a low body count?
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Before I even get with a girl, I ask her so many questions because I'm seeing which, like, I hate to say it, but where you sit with me.
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So, like, if you, whenever I ask you questions, I ask you, like, what job you do, what's your body count, how many partners have you had, have you had a one-night stand?
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And normally, after the first 5, 10, 15 minutes of talking with this girl, I know if I'm either putting her in a recreational use-only category or if I'm looking for a real relationship with her.
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And that's how I do it because at the end of the day, like, if you're going to be my girl, you're going to represent me outside of the bedroom, outside of the house, et cetera.
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So, if you make me look bad, I ain't keeping you around, like, be real with you.
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It's getting pretty late here, so we're going to wrap.
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So, kind of why, like, a guy might have an issue with, like, if a girl, if she's hooked up with a bunch of guys in the past, had a phase, party phase, ho phase, whatever you want to call it, and then wants to make the guy wait.
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And I might give, too, just to kind of give a different perspective.
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So, and I've written this down here just so I don't scuff it up how I normally do.
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So, making a man wait while you smashed Chad after a few beers on a slow Tuesday, and that could have happened numerous amounts of times, is like me going to McDonald's, and while everyone else eating there paid $1 for that cheeseburger, the clerk looks at me and says, it's $1,000 for you, sir.
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Let's say you've been in a situation with a guy for six months.
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Somehow, you find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with, he initiated the commitment conversation after only three weeks of dating.
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I mean, it takes me back to what you were saying, how it makes you not feel good that somebody would wait to have sex with you.
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But, it's like, I know this is commitment, not sex, but it's the same thing you were saying before.
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Yeah, like, oh, he doesn't put me on the same level as his previous girls.
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Yeah, he doesn't find me as attractive or he doesn't put me on the same pedestal he did the other girls.
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Yeah, another example I could give is basically like, let's say you were dating a guy.
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Let's say you've been dating him for six months, a year, whatever.
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Then, you find out that with his last girlfriend or his previous girlfriends, he was buying her gifts.
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And, by the way, his financial situation has not changed.
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He was getting her gifts, taking her on vacations, doing all this extra stuff for his last relationship.
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Maybe he didn't feel appreciated in the last relationship.
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I like seeing stuff from both sides of the situation.
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Hold your peace if anyone has a final thought or question.
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Thank you to all the guys that sensed for me last time.
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And, thank you for all the nice messages I got.
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If you want to support me, I will marry you right now.
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I said, if you want to, like, support me financially, everything, I will marry you right now.
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Brian, I was going to remember this, just to let you know.
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Remember that you gave a random girl on the podcast a ring, and you won't even put a ring on her finger.
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In the future, when you finally find a girl, this might be an argument.
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Dude, really appreciate all the support tonight, guys.
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You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
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I could have been with some hot men, but I decided to come back.
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Thanks for actually having a civil discourse with us.
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And I actually wanted to listen and like hear what you had to say.
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We all know that podcast got so many views because of me.
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So thank you to everyone who super chat and supports the show.
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So and thank you to the wonderful panel we had tonight.
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I thought this this was one of my favorite panels.
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Thank you to Chaz for all the support behind the scenes.
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Guys, we'll be live again Sunday and Tuesday at 7 or excuse me.