Dating Talk #85
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5 hours and 34 minutes
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186.7406
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Summary
On this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we're joined by Adira Lohr, Eve Marlow, and Riley Lewis to talk about how they met, how they started dating, and how they ended up in the porn industry.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero,
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sempre un'amabile, legge addroviso, impianto in riso e menzognero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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La donna è mobile, qual piuma il vento, muta d'accento e di pensiero.
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Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and where you're from.
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I live in Los Angeles and I'm a content creator.
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I've been based in Boston for a bit now and I'm a dating coach.
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I'm from Hollywood and I am a virtual stripper.
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I'm a lifestyle coach specializing in narcissistic abuse.
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I make YouTube videos and people call me Rhino sometimes.
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I'm from San Diego, California and I'm a student.
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I do the whatever podcast and I'm a host at a bar.
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So please tell us your current relationship status.
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Single, friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship, relationship.
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If you're single, how long have you been single?
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Also, what's your longest relationship you've ever been in?
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We have been dating for a few weeks now, but I'm at the point where I'm ready to settle
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And my longest relationship, I guess, was about a year.
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And I just got out of a three month relationship.
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Like I was together with my ex-husband for five years.
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And now I've been, then I was single for five years, had a three month relationship.
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And then when did you get into making adult content?
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I always knew I wanted to pose for Playboy and be a nude model.
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Did you guys have the Playboy necklaces and stuff?
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Well, that's why you guys did pose for Playboy.
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It was really cool in junior high and high school for me.
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I had a situation ship that kind of corrupted like a month ago.
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And last time I was in a relationship was about like five months ago.
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My longest relationship was three years, actually.
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Well, it was kind of more so like I didn't really want to be in a relationship with him
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because like I felt like he wasn't really doing anything with his life.
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So like that was kind of important for me because I need someone that like has motivation
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So that's mainly why I didn't want to date him.
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But like I wasn't like, no, like I want to be your girlfriend.
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Like I begged for him to stream because he was really good, but it didn't really work
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Uh, and, but, and you said, sorry, remind me, you do adult content, you said, or you're
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I'm a content creator, so I stream on Twitch, but I also do OnlyFans.
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Well, he just started being a food busser at a restaurant.
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Because like I was in the restaurant industry before, but I had asked him like, Hey, what
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But I mean, is it, is it fair to say that since he was a bit younger than you, was it, is it's
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not entirely unreasonable that he maybe then, he wasn't quite as figured out as perhaps
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You're like, you're about to say like, I wasn't even.
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Like I, I would give him like ideas on what to do.
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There's not really that many cute streamers out there that are really good at the game.
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Do you, do you need a guy to, and I mean, cause I know some people who do like content creation
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Uh, do you need a guy to make, would you say like on your level or what, where are you
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So I think for me, at least I would want him to make as much as me or, you know, if, or
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If you don't mind me asking how much you don't have to say exact, but maybe like a range.
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I'm very comfortable and I get to, uh, also provide for my family too.
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So like five figures, like, uh, five figures a month.
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Uh, let's say I make my corporate job salary in one month now, like my old corporate job.
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And then my longest relationship was about a year.
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Are you just single, single, pretty single, very single kind of single?
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I mean, I like talk, I'm kind of talking to someone right now, but I don't know.
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By the way, so pretty single, like what is pretty single?
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Um, like I, I talk to people, you know, but it's like, like I'm going on like dates here
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and there, but it's nothing like super serious.
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Like I have a date tomorrow that I'm kind of excited for.
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Uh, when's, have you dated this guy before or is this like a first?
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You know, that's a little, uh, you know, he doesn't have to find out.
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He started, um, dating a girl that would hit him up while we were dating.
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I mean like, not really because like, I guess, I mean, maybe he did.
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There was some allegations and he, um, denies it, but.
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That was the one that was like five months ago in Virginia.
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So I'm currently single, very happily talking to people, dating some people.
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I feel like 22 is the time to be happily single.
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Um, I've been single for maybe a month or two, also out of a three month relationship
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Cause I felt like have to date as a dating coach and my longest relationship was two and
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So you said you're like kind of dating around, talking to some people.
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I'm going to explain it and you're going to be like, it was exactly correct.
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So one guy been talking, texting, met on Hinge, been texting for like a couple weeks, but
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Um, then I'm still active on Hinge, still messaging people, going on first dates.
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So if I meet someone who's cool, I'll continue dating them, potentially commit.
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How many, how many, uh, pieces do you currently have?
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No, I have a really bad attention span with that.
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So I've been texting the one guy for like a few weeks, but he's in Switzerland and I'm
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Uh, he's back in America in August and that'd be the first date.
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Then I usually have like maybe two to three Hinge combos going on.
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And then maybe like every other week I'll go on like a first date, see how it goes.
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Cause we matched cause on Hinge, you can like change your location at will.
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He was in Boston for like a concert cause he's in an orchestra and I just was about to move
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Then when I was in Boston, he was in Switzerland to play in an orchestra and I was in Boston.
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And wait, so reminder, where do you live again?
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I was like, I was like, I was, my Hinge was in Boston for a reason.
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Cause I know with like the dating apps, you can change your location, uh, which makes sense
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if you're, if you're like moving around, you know, but travel, but if you're like living
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in LA and you're like, let me just see who's I can match with.
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I would never go to Boston and just personally.
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So my boyfriend and I are in a fully committed, um, one sided open relationship.
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And my longest relationship was like three years.
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So like, I'm not allowed to get with other people, but, um, he's allowed to, you know,
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So he, how, at what point in the relationship, like, was it monogamous at one point, then
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you opened it up strictly for him or just from the get go, it was like, yeah, you don't see
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So, well, I mean, on our second date, he flew me and this other influencer out to an
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island and he was like talking to her previously and then.
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Um, but yeah, then he decided he wanted to like talk to me.
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So I guess from the get go, I was just like, you know, I just kind of expected that that's
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Um, is he, he flew you to an island like for the first date for, yeah.
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Well, the second date is he, oh, is he a content creator or what?
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Cause you said something in your pre-show messages to us about dating someone in a wheelchair.
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We actually don't really know what's wrong with him, but he has like an autoimmune disorder
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and, um, yeah, ever since my birthday, which was about like a week and a half ago, he's
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been in a wheelchair cause he's like kind of paralyzed right now.
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Um, and, uh, so this is like a new development, like just.
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It was an autoimmune thing that just like came on suddenly, or is it like a progressive
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Like he had like a cold or something like, and it like triggered this autoimmune response.
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It happened to him once before, like three years ago and yeah.
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Did he, did he have a diagnosis back three years ago?
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Um, no, unfortunately, like they never really figured out what it was.
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So it's kind of just an unknown thing at the moment.
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Chat, do you guys have any idea what that could be?
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I mean, there's definitely, I've heard cases where like with certain illnesses you can
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get like, uh, I don't know, it can cause like nerve.
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Um, in any case, sorry to hear that, uh, that your boyfriend's not, uh, feeling a tip
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Is his like whole body paralyzed or like just his legs?
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He's like paralyzed, but he can still like move like a little bit.
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Like, you know, I have to like help him like up and stuff, but like he can like kind of
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My longest relationship was three and a half years and I just got out of a situation ship
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So I think my longest relationship has been two years and I'm currently single.
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And I've been single for about probably, oh, it's been a cool minute.
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I'm in a, uh, committed relationship and my current relationship is my longest relationship.
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Frankie and I were tanning like right before this and I like forgot to put it on before I
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Uh, so, I think the first thing we're going to talk about is Margot Robbie.
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I don't know if you guys heard of this, but recently she's, uh, come under fire because
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If you guys know Margot Robbie, the critically acclaimed actress, people think she's mid.
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Um, and we'll show you the tweet that I think kind of got a lot of attention.
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So, Nick, if you're able to navigate over to the, uh, there's some news articles and
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Sorry, I don't see Margot Robbie in this tweet that I'll pull it up.
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777 sextilion 777 quattio or decilion 777 quattio or decilion 777 quattio.
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$7,777,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
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right? You were rapping earlier. I was rapping. Okay. Actually, before you pull it up, I'm going
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to get a couple of chats here. Hold on, guys. Okay. We have Ryan Reborn. Thank you for the
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$50 donation there. I'm 100% disabled U.S. Navy veteran with a disabling autoimmune condition
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that keeps me from doing many things and in my experience, both in person and in online dating,
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women want nothing to do with me because I'm a cripple. What am I to do? Is that your boyfriend?
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That's really funny. Was that your boyfriend? I don't know. It might be. Disabling autoimmune
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condition. Yeah, that's a tough one, man. I mean, I don't know if anyone in the panel wants to.
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Find someone that's crippled too. Dead ass. Isn't cripple like really offensive, Madison? I think
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you're canceled. He called himself a cripple, so. I guess I'd say that. You know, like if you're
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part of that community. Find someone that's disabled too. There you go. Yeah. I think that
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he should just keep hiring hot nurses to take care of him until eventually he finds one with a fetish
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for cripples. I've heard many stories of like them meeting their nurse and falling in love. So.
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Okay. That's my only advice as someone who's never dated a cripple. Here's a question for the table.
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Let's say you have a man who's paraplegic versus a woman who's a paraplegic, both in wheelchairs,
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both of comparable attractiveness levels. Who do you think will have an easier time dating? The man
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or the woman? I mean, women always have easier time dating to be fair. So I think that that's just
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a natural unfair advantage. Anybody? Because you said all factors equal. I would say obviously the
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paraplegic woman would have an easier time dating because given typical gender roles, if we're assuming
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it's like heteronormative and whatnot, she wouldn't be expected to be able to
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be a dummy mommy per se. Everything, everything equal. Okay. Anybody else?
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I had a, I had a friend that got with a girl that was in a wheelchair and it was like kind of cute and
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endearing in a way because it's like, oh, she's in a wheelchair. Like, but if, if a guy's in a wheelchair,
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it's kind of a very bleak outcome. Cause like you said, no girl wants anything to do with him.
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Cause I think as a man, women are looking for it. They're gotta be strong dominant. And if you're
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literally, your legs don't work, you're just poop out of luck. Can I cuss on here? Yeah. Okay. You're
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shit out of luck. Yeah. That's probably almost preferable to poop, but yeah, I definitely agree with
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you there. Sorry. Sorry. Um, but that's not always the case, you know, like some women want to be the
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caregiver. Some women want to be the sugar mom. They want to be the one that takes care. So like,
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it's not always that they're shit out of luck. Like I will say the person that runs my social media,
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he is actually disabled and he's in a wheelchair and he has a fantastic long-term girlfriend that is
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able-bodied. So he gets pussy and I'm just going to say it's totally possible.
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Wait, it's definitely possible. It's just like, it's just less woman. He's able-bodied?
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Like, no, she is like, she, she, she can walk. He's in a wheelchair and yeah, they're,
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they've been together for a long time and they're super happy and a good relationship. So I don't
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think it's impossible. I think it makes it a lot harder, but I see it and I'm like, yeah,
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anything's possible. Well, I feel like women are just generally caregivers anyways, right?
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Like in the home, I feel like that's, you know, what women are associated with. So in that case,
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I kind of feel like men would have it easier. So I heard statistically that like, if in a
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relationship, like the man gets like a bunch of health issues, the woman is more likely to stay.
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Whereas like, if a woman gets a lot of health issues, the man is more likely to leave.
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I think that actually came up in our last stream and there was apparently some study that was done
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that indicated, which I thought, I thought was a bit excessive, but they claimed that men were six
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times more likely to leave their wives. For example, if, if their wives got cancers, got cancer versus
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the reverse. I'm not sure if I believe that though. Um, and, uh, yeah, I don't know. Wasn't there a
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recently some like story of like a woman who left her husband who had cancer and I think he ended up
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dying and then like went and talked about it. Do you know what? I know what you're talking about.
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I forgot what the, I don't know if we can, we don't have to pull it up, but, uh, yeah, well,
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I think, uh, it's definitely not impossible. Like you said, for a guy who's in a wheelchair,
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I do think that one of the perhaps discrepancies is I think an attraction trigger that women have
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for, for men is the ability to protect and a guy who, and also just, I think women are attracted
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to men who are strong physically, uh, mentally, although mentally, I don't think necessarily
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being in a wheelchair that has anything to do with your mental constitution. But as far as just
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strictly speaking, when it comes to physical strength, if you're in a wheelchair and your
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ability to protect, you're, you're pretty compromised. So, and that's a, you know, men don't really
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look to women to be protectors. Whereas like, I don't know, maybe show of hands here. If
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you were with a guy and he was like struggling to open a jar and he was like, babe, can you
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like help me out? Would you be like a little like, stop the top of the knife. It's a little
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empowering though. You know, I can open this jar and you can't come on. Yeah. Maybe it's
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like self-empowering, like look at this pussy, but like wouldn't, but, but you wouldn't view
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your, your partner in like a slightly negative light if he's like, no, let's not use the opening
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jar as an example. All of my last exes have all been weaker than me. Based. What? Like physically
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weaker? All of your exes? That's why they're your exes. Yeah, but like, can we, but it's, I mean,
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like you, you lift, right? Yes. Like, can, can you show us the tries? Like, fuck. Oh, wow.
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Wait, I don't know if we saw it. Wait, do it. Do it. Do it. Like, can we get double, double
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buys? Holy fuck, bro. Wait, can you really quick? Can you, um, can you squat Ryan really
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quick? How much do you weigh? Now, hold on a minute. I don't know if I'm. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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I didn't mean to volunteer you. Maybe after the show. Okay. After the show, we'll, we'll
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do a little test. We'll do a little test, but, um, okay. So, uh, oh, interesting. Um, well,
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oh, what? Oh, what? Oh, I'll re-trigger that. Red means stop and yellow means slow down.
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Wait, what? We missed all of it. But on a banana, it's just the opposite. Green. Dude. Oh my God.
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I got ruined. Hold on. I'll re-trigger it. One sec guys. It's about to pull back up. Um, wait,
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so you, you're stronger than all your exes. Not all of them, but, but, but the most recent
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ones that were the most serious. Yes. Okay. Oh, okay. Interesting. And what do they think
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about that? I don't know what they. Hold on. Mitch Hedberg donated $100. On a stoplight,
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green means go. Red means stop and yellow means slow down. But on a banana, it's just the opposite.
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Green means hold on. Yellow means go ahead. And red means where the, did you get that banana
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at? I don't get it. Me neither. Okay. I got that. All right. Okay. I got it. All right.
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Uh, let's pull up, let's pull up the, uh, Margot Robbie thing just as a reminder. So there's
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this thing going on where a lot of people have been, uh, posting on. Oh my God. Oh Jesus.
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Mitch Hedberg. Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm going to skip that one. Okay. Um, people are saying
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Margot Robbie is mid. And so this is a tweet that got like 70 million impressions. This is
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her without makeup. Definitely mid according to him. Scroll down just a little bit on the
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page. Are you able to scroll, scroll down a little more. So it got 69 or sorry, 62.9 million
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views. Um, so what do you guys think? I mean, who's calling her mid because she's not 24
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anymore. Well, are they saying she's mid without makeup or is that what they're saying? I think
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just in general, the photo that they showed, right? The photo that they showed, they're
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saying that's mid. I'm sorry, but that, I think she's hot as fuck. I think she looks great.
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Like without makeup, she looks like mid compared to who? Like, like who are we comparing her to?
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Because she's fucking beautiful. Some girls put thousands of dollars into their face to
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look like her and that's her without makeup. Yeah. And like, I don't understand how this
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even became a controversy at all. She has a naturally sculpted face, naturally thick eyelashes,
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thick eyebrows, like nice lips. She's genuinely one of the most in the world. I think, I think
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a good starting point is we need to define mid. Yeah. What is mid? Like, is that like a five
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out of 10 or like? Yeah. I would say. I think it's four to six. Four to six. But who creates
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the scale? But six is a little above that. Where is like the standard of what? Yeah. What is a 10?
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Can we define a 10? Is there a dictionary definition of this scale? 10 is like perfect.
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But what is perfect? Megan Fox. I don't know. Like, yeah, it's different for everyone,
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I would say. But she's definitely not mid, but she's not like. Yeah. Mid is four or five or six.
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There's no way. Also, she's 33 and looks like that. She's 30. Oh, then she's not mid. I disagree
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on what the important base is. It's not what is mid. It's what is, what are we measuring her on?
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Because comparing one picture of her to the other pictures versus what she looks like in the flesh
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in real life, like that photo, mediocre photo of her. But then look at any other photo and she's
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gorgeous. I'm assuming if you see her in real life, which I hope at least one of us has the
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blessing to see her in real life. She'd be beautiful. Wait, do you go both ways? Yes. Can't you tell by
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the hair? Hey, you know, it's not a given these days, but okay. Gotcha. So you would. It's the photo,
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not necessarily the scale. Cause I think that conversation is tired. I think even in the
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photo, she's not mid, I would still give her. She's still gorgeous in the photo. She's still
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above a six. Compared to a lot of like people, her age as well. Yeah. I hate that 33 is the age
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that we have to be like. And I'm sorry, but like, I wasn't saying it was old. I'm just saying other
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people in her age range. But like, like the amount of people that are on the internet arguing about
00:34:15.400
her looks, I'm sorry, but how attractive are all of you guys? You know, like why is everyone?
00:34:19.980
Probably too. They're probably less than mid. If we want to talk about scale, you guys are like
00:34:23.100
negative mid, you know? Mid minus. Like, like, are you kidding me right now? And we all know that
00:34:29.560
these guys that are calling her mid got hard to her in the Wolf of Wall Street. Absolutely.
00:34:35.060
And if she showed up to their doorstep to S their D right now, they would absolutely drop their
00:34:41.880
pants and let her, you know? But like mid or not, they'd be like, let's go. Sure. And the guys that
00:34:48.100
might be saying she's mid, they might be like leagues less attractive, relatively speaking,
00:34:54.620
than she is. But I mean, I don't know if it's a, if it's a totally fair argument to say,
00:34:58.700
well, just because you're not attractive, you can't make an assessment of somebody else's
00:35:02.580
attractiveness. I don't think they're making the argument of like, bro, I'd never go for
00:35:07.480
her. I don't think they're saying that. Like, probably most of the guys are like, she's mid
00:35:10.880
are probably not as attractive as her. But I just think they're like, I think they're coming
00:35:15.880
at it more from like, she's an attractive girl, but she's not, she's not all that.
00:35:21.380
But the term mid is like, not like attractive, you know? The term mid is used as like, she's
00:35:27.280
Are they comparing her to other celebrities? Is that what they're, is that the scale? It's
00:35:36.440
I think people are only saying she's mid because she's a celebrity.
00:35:39.320
Did she go online and be like, I'm hot shit, I'm a 10 out of 10, and everyone's attacking
00:35:44.180
her? Or everyone just got bored and they're like, she's fucking mid, like, fuck her.
00:35:48.800
Like, why is she talking about her looks in the first place?
00:35:51.180
Barbie came out and now everyone has to say something.
00:35:54.260
I think it's also, good thing you mentioned Barbie. I think Barbie, like in the lore of Barbie,
00:36:00.900
I guess. I didn't know there was a lore. There is lore. Barbie's 19.
00:36:05.060
So I guess they're coming at it like, maybe they could have casted somebody younger because
00:36:10.380
she's still a very attractive woman, but she's in her 30s. She doesn't look like a 19 year,
00:36:18.180
Well, I mean, I bet if she was just like a regular person on the street, like not famous,
00:36:23.380
they wouldn't like, obviously they wouldn't be like, she wouldn't be all famous and stuff.
00:36:26.860
I think it's just because she has like a platform and then also the Barbie movie.
00:36:31.520
I don't know. I think it's just like, people just get bored.
00:36:38.580
Like they just have nothing else to talk about.
00:36:44.040
Yeah. And also isn't Barbie kind of supposed to be the pinnacle of...
00:36:55.000
She's a woman. So like the fact that she's supposed to be like 19, like that's like...
00:37:01.780
But when we were growing up, the Barbie that we were looking up to was not a 19 year old.
00:37:47.760
So I had to learn about like childhood development.
00:37:53.300
So the little girls would be taking care of the doll.
00:37:56.000
And Barbie was revolutionary because it's a doll to aspire to.
00:37:59.760
So you play house or you pretend to be president or you're an astronaut or you're a scientist.
00:38:07.720
Probably not an OF creator, but Barbie can do anything.
00:38:17.500
So this can at least give us some guidance on this pressing issue.
00:38:28.180
Chaz, so the short blonde chick, if your partner is paralyzed from waist down and in a wheelchair,
00:38:32.820
then it's probably a closed relationship for the moment.
00:38:44.760
He like has like an eye patch too, because like, he's a pirate.
00:38:50.180
Like, I mean, like he like comes up with these crazy stories.
00:38:53.180
Like, you know, like if a girl came up to him on the street, like they'd be like, why are you in a wheelchair?
00:38:58.800
And you know, like he would come up with some crazy story.
00:39:01.180
I feel like TMI, but can he like feel down there?
00:39:04.940
He like doesn't really have like a lot of like sensation, you know, in his.
00:39:42.800
Let us know when you got it and then we'll pull it up.
00:39:56.640
Someone, our friend Vermillion is saying, oh, can you pause?
00:40:04.220
Can you control mouse wheel up so we can read this?
00:40:24.920
Calculating Barbie's age from her manufacturing debut, the first Barbie doll is now over 64
00:40:31.560
Considering that Barbie was created as a 19-year-old doll, she could technically be up to 83 years
00:40:38.480
However, in the past, Mattel has reportedly said that Barbie is frozen in time at age 19.
00:40:45.780
So Barbie, according to the Mattel Barbie lore, the creators, Barbie's 19.
00:40:55.700
Margot Robbie, still an attractive woman, is 33.
00:41:00.360
Um, I've heard things of, I mean, I haven't really researched what Barbie is supposed to
00:41:07.380
be about, but I've heard that there's, it's supposed to make sense for why she's so old and
00:41:20.060
Everyone's pissed off in that, like, she was cast so old.
00:41:23.500
It does kind of seem like a bit of a quirky type of movie, so.
00:41:29.720
I don't think it's like a, uh, teen movie or something.
00:41:33.220
Also, older, older actresses play young characters all the time.
00:41:37.640
Alexi Demme just played a 15-year-old in Euphoria, and she's 30.
00:41:42.600
I have Vermillion here saying mid is probably best described as neither notably attractive
00:41:48.660
I'm a captain, you all have tenant donated $101.
00:41:51.720
Shout out to discount Shinedo Connor and Chance the Rapper.
00:42:14.160
They keep trying to come back with, like, the donkey noise and the pig noise.
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I'm trying to, do I have a button that is related to that?
00:42:35.240
Um, so, okay, uh, what, what were we talking, wait, not just.
00:42:42.960
We're talking about, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, not just, oh, did you have a response, by
00:42:50.880
I get, ever since I've shaved my head, that's one of the people I get compared to.
00:42:56.300
No, I, I don't even know who she is, to be honest.
00:43:04.180
She got, she got in trouble with, uh, she made some comments in the 90s about the Catholic
00:43:27.000
And then we'll also pull up after that, like, all the news articles, because it's been like,
00:43:31.560
There's crazy amounts of news articles, uh, about it right now.
00:43:36.000
So, like, I mean, just looking at this photo, like, I could see this person walking around
00:44:02.240
Can you, uh, can you pull up the, uh, news articles?
00:44:16.000
She looks like she has, like, a nice, like, lip color, too.
00:44:21.160
So, uh, control mouse wheel up just a little bit so it's a bit bigger.
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Let's just see what, if there's been any other, uh, scroll down.
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In any case, um, it's been covered quite substantially.
00:45:17.460
Literally, she's, like, one of, like, the staples of beauty.
00:45:21.260
Like, are you going to call Marilyn Monroe mid?
00:45:23.640
I think, I think Margot Robbie personally is, like, a little prettier than Marilyn Monroe.
00:45:28.800
Like, who's the first person to, like, say this?
00:45:32.120
Weren't we, like, all obsessed with her, like, last year or something?
00:46:24.780
What do you rate Margot Robbie on a scale of one to ten?
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For the people that rate her six, can we rate you?
00:46:46.740
It looks like it's about seven to eight seems to be about the average.
00:47:06.920
Four or five is mid because it's literally the middle.
00:47:14.440
Well, in that case, we have Stifler here asking everyone at the table to rate their looks on
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I mean, I normally don't even do something like this, to be honest, because I don't believe
00:47:41.460
in it, but I mean, I'm going to fucking ride hard for myself, and I'm going to say
00:47:46.340
I'm a ten out of a ten, and I don't care who the fuck has to say anything on this shit.
00:47:50.440
You guys can call me ugly all you want, but fuck you motherfuckers.
00:47:53.820
It's like, sorry, I said the F word a lot, but...
00:47:59.840
I don't think I'm perfect, but I do like to look at myself in the mirror, so it's a
00:48:15.280
I'm sorry, but like everybody should be going...
00:48:17.080
I feel like a few young, and we're in our thirties, so we already know...
00:48:19.260
It also depends, like, for me, I know it shouldn't, but like, if I'm wearing makeup or not,
00:48:28.160
No, I feel like that's like just looking at myself, like, if I'm wearing makeup, obviously
00:48:31.440
I'm going to be like, oh yeah, I look way pretty with it.
00:48:44.860
I would say in California, it's my first time here, like, a 5, but in the Northeast, in
00:48:50.900
Boston, a 7 or 8, depending on my hair, which I change a lot.
00:49:12.060
So I would say me with the long hair, solid 8, pretty reliably, based on my matches, who
00:49:23.280
With the short hair, then it depends on if you're asking a man or a woman.
00:49:27.700
Because the girlies love a short, colorful head.
00:49:39.800
So, like, if someone's saying Margot Robbie's mid, you know, there's variety within men
00:49:47.140
I said 7 because I think that's where you can generally date whoever you'd want to date,
00:49:52.980
and I've never struggled to date who I want to date, but I wouldn't be surprised if I see
00:49:57.300
someone really hot and they're like, I don't want to date her.
00:50:14.680
I don't profit off of my appearance because I know it's not quite there enough, and I
00:50:19.820
don't put in enough effort to try to make it there enough.
00:50:34.040
Probably an 8 after I, like, got my boobs done.
00:50:53.620
8, 9, I think, because I'm no model, but I think I'm pretty myself.
00:51:21.540
This thought, this concept has kept me up at night.
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Like, fresh out of bed, probably, like, a 6 and a half.
00:52:00.120
If, like, my makeup looks really fucking good, probably, like, an 8.
00:52:08.240
I give myself, oh, maybe we should have asked everyone this, like, what do you rate yourself
00:52:14.880
But I give myself a 6 with makeup a 7, obviously.
00:52:23.700
Does anyone want to revise their answers without makeup?
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Like, it's really sad for me to watch everyone sit here and, like, rate themselves on a scale
00:52:59.480
I'm, like, I wish all of you guys answered higher.
00:53:03.460
And, like, I think this whole debate is really odd in the first place.
00:53:10.680
So do you think everybody should rate themselves as a 10?
00:53:12.680
I don't think we should be rating our looks at all.
00:53:14.460
I think that the world is literally falling apart, and we should be focused on bigger things
00:53:27.700
Like, there's more to worry about than what people look like physically.
00:53:33.860
Well, but couldn't you say that you can say that about anything?
00:53:38.320
Well, we shouldn't worry about this particular minor issue, even though some people care about
00:53:42.740
it, because there are starving children in Africa.
00:53:46.200
We ought to, like, I don't know if that's, I don't know if there's a specific term for that.
00:53:54.060
I forgot what it is, but appeal to a greater dilemma.
00:53:57.740
In any case, but do you think everybody should consider themselves a 10?
00:54:04.420
I think that we should all have enough confidence in ourselves that we should.
00:54:38.340
If everyone just holds on tight, we're getting, we're still live.
00:54:40.880
Just, there's some weird lag issues going on, apparently.
00:55:10.400
I think it should just be, I think it was just a weird hiccup.
00:55:14.120
In any case, okay, so do you think everybody should rate themselves as a 10?
00:55:19.000
I think if everyone had the confidence to rate themselves as a 10.
00:55:26.220
Yo, VD Cars, thank you so much for the very generous, gifted 50 memberships.
00:55:35.520
So if everybody wants to just stand up really quick, we're going to get, we're going to see everybody's fit.
00:55:39.240
So if everyone wants to stand up, we're going to do a fit check.
00:55:49.560
If everybody wants to do, like, a little spin, we'll see the fit, you know, we'll-
00:55:55.760
Okay, yep, the spinach, the spinach was wonderful.
00:56:15.280
It looks, I don't know if it's going to trigger again.
00:56:18.980
That triggers, I don't know if it's going to pop up again.
00:56:23.740
Wait, chat, did he, he did do two groups of 50s?
00:56:32.360
Well, that does trigger fireworks, so thank you very much, VD Cars, for your very, very
00:56:40.040
generous, thank you for gifting our community and viewers all those memberships.
00:56:49.000
I don't know if the, I recognize your name, but I don't know if this is your first time
00:56:53.960
Does anyone know what VD stands for, by the way?
00:56:59.080
I think that should, it's kind of, it's kind of outdated, but I actually think VD should
00:57:15.180
Only, only tell me if it's like a lot of people are mentioning the lag, because if it's just
00:57:21.820
everybody's spamming it, then, where did, video's still choppy, but the lag is gone.
00:57:31.920
I think your friend's already, your friend's already in there, but.
00:57:37.180
Sorry, guys, we are having some technical issues.
00:57:41.680
I'm going to see if I can change something on our end to try to fix it, so hold tight, guys,
00:57:52.280
Madison, take it back to that question about disabilities, not the 10 thing, but how many
00:58:11.520
I feel like if I was with the guy first, and he were to be in a wheelchair, I'd be completely
00:58:19.040
Genuinely, I think it just depends, because if I like you for who you are, and like the
00:58:24.120
soul that you have inside of you, then it doesn't really matter.
00:58:26.640
I also forgot who said that it'd probably be harder for men to.
00:58:34.520
Someone said it'd be harder for women, or it'd be easier for men.
00:58:41.960
Oh, I just want to know, like, why you think it would be easier for men again?
00:58:44.800
Yeah, well, I guess just because I feel like women, like, are nurturers, and like, you
00:58:50.160
know, they tend to, like, oh, right, talking to the mic, thank you.
00:58:55.040
They tend to be nurturers, they tend to, you know, take care of the house, like, housemakers,
00:59:01.080
At the end of the day, like, I feel like it's in our nature to kind of take care of
00:59:05.600
people, and I don't know, for that reason, I think that maybe men would have an easier
00:59:11.560
I agree with that, the fact that, like, women are caretakers, but say in that situation,
00:59:16.340
I also feel like some women would opt out of that, because it's like, you kind of have
00:59:20.640
to give up all your time just to take care of this guy.
00:59:23.500
Also, like Rhino was saying, like, I feel like a girl wants, like, a big masculine man
00:59:30.260
to, like, be able to take care of them, you know?
00:59:32.280
Like, for me, at least, I wouldn't really want to have to take care of them, you know
00:59:37.300
Like, you're going to have to dedicate so much time and energy just to care for your significant
00:59:43.700
Like, you should if you're, like, if you're really in love with them.
00:59:46.480
But I just think a lot of women would refrain from that, because of, like, the protection.
00:59:55.160
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't jump on it and be like, oh, definitely, he's in a wheelchair,
01:00:05.060
I don't think, I think you're capping, because I don't think you would even give a guy the
01:00:09.060
chance to get to know him if he was in a wheelchair.
01:00:12.420
Right off the bat, I don't think I would either.
01:00:15.160
Like, it sounds nice to say, like, no, I care about someone's heart, whatever, but
01:00:19.480
like, I care about girls' personality, of course, but if you literally don't look good,
01:00:25.020
It's like the first thing that you see in someone, say you're, like, walking on the
01:00:46.720
I feel like there's way too many cons to have to be, like, dating someone in a wheelchair.
01:00:58.100
I thought we were done with the Margot Robbie, but I thought about something.
01:01:00.860
Is there a male, popular, attractive male celebrity that y'all think is over-hyped?
01:01:22.480
Timothee Chalamet, I don't think he's that cute.
01:01:25.740
I was going to make the point of, like, in this, in 2023, like, critiquing a woman and
01:01:32.880
just saying, she's mid, even if she's beautiful, whatever, it's, like, front stage, news headlines
01:01:38.660
everywhere, but, like, if you say an attractive man is mid, no one cares.
01:01:43.760
It's just like, yeah, I agree, yeah, I don't like Timothee Chalamet either, but if you dare
01:01:48.480
to critique Margot Robbie, then how could you even speak on her name?
01:01:54.140
But if I say, Michael B. Jordan ain't all that, it's like, yeah, whatever, who cares?
01:01:59.700
I think it's because looks are so important, like, in the female role, like, you know,
01:02:04.760
more women get plastic surgery, more women wear makeup, more women do beauty products,
01:02:10.280
get facials, and men, because they don't care if you call them mid, they're like, well,
01:02:14.720
So it's, like, not even an insult, but if you call us mid, we're like, we spent $100 on
01:02:25.280
Are there any, like, high value, or not high value, just, like, high class women, like,
01:02:31.980
celebrities that you think are a little overrated?
01:02:34.580
Oh, man, if I say mine, I'm going to get attacked.
01:02:50.880
I personally, you know, strong voice, but personally, I think there's girls, again, crazy
01:02:58.560
Like, I think there's probably girls that, what college is this, UCSB or something?
01:03:04.320
But I will say, I just think it's harder for celebrities because they get compared to kind
01:03:11.200
of, like, their status as a celebrity, so it's easier to judge them, you know?
01:03:14.980
They're saying Margot Robbie's mid, but they're comparing her to other people, like, on the
01:03:21.640
They're definitely not comparing her to the people at the grocery store, like, right now.
01:03:27.500
They're definitely comparing her to other celebrities, which, yeah, would be a harder
01:03:31.980
And other celebrities are constantly, always in professionally done makeup, photoshopped.
01:03:41.880
Like, people think Beyonce's, like, a fucking 10 out of 10, but it's because she, like,
01:03:51.180
She can afford every beauty, surgery, anything.
01:04:04.220
They're saying we're all too old for Leonardo DiCaprio.
01:04:18.460
Oh, the people he's got to date have been 25 and under.
01:04:25.500
Like, every time they turn 25, he's done with them?
01:04:27.580
If you look at a graph, then it shows the age of his girlfriends, and then it goes up
01:04:32.040
for a few years, and then she turns 25, goes back down to another 19-year-old, and then
01:05:06.580
Just, like, you know, like, always been, like, a big crush of mine, so...
01:05:14.300
Were you here for when we were, like, oh, Leonardo DiCaprio is not that attractive?
01:05:55.780
It was just, like, whenever that, like, TTS triggers...
01:05:59.840
Whenever that, like, TTS trigger, like, chime comes in, we ask everyone to just, like, be a
01:06:05.300
Because it's hard to, like, listen to it when people are talking at the same time.
01:06:11.040
Did you see that, um, thing about Tom Holland, though?
01:06:13.840
How he's kind of, like, taking a year break from acting?
01:06:20.900
No, he's not gay, but he acted in, like, this, uh, was it a movie?
01:06:27.420
It was, like, a movie where he was, like, a psychological thriller.
01:06:33.960
No, I could not open Twitter without seeing his cheeks getting clapped.
01:06:45.520
But, yeah, he's taking, like, a year break from acting because he's getting so much shit for that.
01:06:59.440
Yeah, it is just acting, but you know how the media is, like, they're gonna judge you for every single thing you do,
01:07:04.900
and especially if it's something like that, unfortunately.
01:07:12.760
I feel like you just have to, like, expect stuff like that when you're in that industry.
01:07:17.480
You know, which is sad, but I feel like you do just have to expect it at the end of the day.
01:07:20.920
Yeah, and you also have to just, like, think before you do things sometimes.
01:07:25.380
I don't want to judge him because he's a great actor, but...
01:07:27.960
I wouldn't take a role that it was like, hey, and you're gonna be getting raw dog.
01:07:38.140
Yeah, you should know that, hey, if I'm gonna do a scene where I'm up against the wall, you know,
01:07:50.400
I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you.
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You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution
01:08:07.620
Thank you, Les Grossman, for the very generous TTS.
01:08:12.440
Guys, if it's okay, I think we have it figured out.
01:08:23.660
I think that's our first time we've ever had that issue.
01:08:27.600
Did I say one in the chat if everything's okay?
01:08:32.040
That was one of our concerns, that even though we got it fixed,
01:08:35.820
now there's like a 20-second delay on the stream.
01:08:47.160
So, I think my question was, before the shit hit the fan,
01:08:58.080
I personally think that everyone should have the confidence in themselves as a 10, yes.
01:09:08.540
we would have more brain room to focus on other things,
01:09:15.220
maybe finding a healthy relationship, you know,
01:09:21.480
So, I think focusing on your rating and judging yourself on that is irrelevant.
01:09:32.160
You think that we should be less preoccupied with our physical appearance?
01:09:42.360
Like, what justice does it do to rate yourself as a 2?
01:09:45.540
To live your life being like, I'm an ugly 2, no one likes me.
01:09:51.320
Well, I mean, if it happens to be the case that, for example,
01:09:54.300
let's say you actually are a 2, or this hypothetical person is a 2,
01:09:58.900
and you have an accurate self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness,
01:10:06.620
couldn't you argue that it's actually more confident to be like,
01:10:12.280
versus, like, actually being like, let's say you're a 5,
01:10:17.340
you're not particularly remarkable in any regard,
01:10:24.400
Don't you think it would be more confident to just be like,
01:10:27.420
No, I think it's the most confident to show that you think you're the best you are,
01:10:31.300
and I've met many people that, by beauty standards,
01:10:41.620
but just their confidence and their personality made me think that they were fucking the hottest guy I've ever met,
01:10:47.600
so I think if you have the confidence in yourself that you are a 10,
01:10:51.800
that you will attract people to your confidence,
01:10:54.300
and if you sit there self-assessing, being like,
01:10:59.460
no, I think that's just a waste of your time in bringing yourself down
01:11:02.420
and stopping you from succeeding and getting further, you know?
01:11:05.820
Well, is this scale based off of, like, solely attractiveness,
01:11:14.860
then, like, I think that the point that you're saying is, like,
01:11:18.760
just because, like, confidence comes from within,
01:11:35.180
You, what, every one of you could look the same way,
01:11:47.280
I don't think that everyone that, like, rates himself,
01:11:57.100
I think, like, on the other side of what you're saying,
01:12:04.160
but, like, I also know that I can improve on, like,
01:12:11.020
Like, what standards do you want to improve on?
01:12:15.340
Like, what standards are you putting yourself to?
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that you're giving yourself a lower number than a 10?
01:12:38.840
how you could be better in your other life set skills,
01:12:47.400
Like, there's nothing you can improve about yourself,
01:12:59.460
because that's what I believe everyone should do.
01:13:10.140
And I think everyone should definitely be confident,
01:13:44.200
she's, I don't know, truthfully isn't very attractive,
01:13:54.240
She might start going after certain guys, whatever,
01:14:08.700
and I think that I'm the second coming of Jesus Christ
01:14:24.980
because I'm not actually playing within my roles
01:14:55.500
they're not gonna get treated like a 10 necessarily.
01:15:09.440
Belladonna used to be married to one of my good friends
01:15:17.340
Belladonna was one of the most famous porn stars
01:16:26.520
I don't know if we can talk about people's attractiveness, to be honest.
01:16:37.600
If you need a ride back, I don't mind driving you, too.
01:17:08.240
She said that she had a better time than to sit here and talk about what people look like.
01:17:14.820
Personally, personally, for, like, the whole, like, scale thing, I don't think it's that deep.
01:17:22.860
Remember when we were in, like, middle school and be like, rate my...
01:17:27.180
Like, we didn't think it was that deep until now where people started making it that deep.
01:17:37.020
I think it's not fair to say everyone is a ten out of ten.
01:17:40.820
But, like, when I rate people, I also rate people when it comes to their personality, too.
01:17:46.920
You could actually physically be a ten out of ten.
01:17:49.760
But if you're a shithead, I will not want to sleep with you or be even near you.
01:18:00.140
Like, she would not have liked what I was about to say.
01:18:05.540
Does looks even matter for a guy if he's successful, confident, smart dude on the panel?
01:18:14.920
I don't think looks matters if a guy is successful, confident, and smart.
01:18:22.640
Just leave the chairs there, and then we'll get rid of some of the chairs.
01:18:40.000
Not realizing that by the token, the more she talks and the lower she goes.
01:18:46.880
Seriously, you are the definition of just be quiet and pee-pee.
01:19:03.060
So we're just going to readjust the seating arrangements here.
01:19:07.860
Yeah, maybe, can we have you kind of get in the corner a little bit?
01:19:12.380
If you could straddle the leg and then Madison scoots over a little bit.
01:19:24.460
Yeah, she heard her little winks were making fun.
01:19:29.640
I left for like one minute and I came back and I saw her.
01:19:40.260
And she was, I don't know how old she was exactly.
01:19:57.480
We're just getting a little reset here with everything.
01:20:20.360
You're like, even if you disagree with someone, it's all good.
01:20:37.680
She's like, I can't ready to like voice my opinion.
01:20:44.180
She's like, they're like excited to like talk and like voice their opinion and like defend
01:20:52.240
When I got here, she said that she'd never even like really heard of the podcast.
01:20:57.940
There's the blue hair girl who reached out to us.
01:21:10.000
But she said that it was like not really worth her evening, which to be fair, if she doesn't
01:21:15.000
want to talk about like rating people, she's probably not the show to be on.
01:21:22.760
I mean, they were, so the blue hair girl like requested to, they were friends or whatever.
01:21:32.120
So yeah, kind of weird, like kind of weird, but.
01:21:41.360
Don't come on the dating cop podcast if you don't want to talk about things that are about
01:21:47.660
Because when you start dating, you immediately start rating the person that you're sitting
01:21:52.240
Whether you want to admit it or not, like we all make sort of value calls and judgments
01:21:56.840
about people who were potentially going to date, whether that comes down to their physical
01:22:01.200
appearance, whether that comes down to their personality, like, and we can all agree, like
01:22:05.740
some people are more attractive than others, you know?
01:22:08.520
So like you might not, it might feel like, oh, kind of shitty to put like a number to
01:22:15.900
But like, you know, someone, this person's more attractive than this person.
01:22:19.680
This person's more attractive than this person.
01:22:21.280
This person's more attractive than this person.
01:22:22.960
You might not be putting a number to it, but you are like, you are ranking people to some
01:22:30.840
We've seen a person that's more attractive than another person and we kind of, so anyways.
01:22:45.760
I don't think we've had anyone fold off of like a fairly milquetoast conversation about
01:23:01.280
I feel like that was a bit different though, because there's a little like tiff, you know,
01:23:08.420
You just gave her a nasty, or no, she gave you a nasty look and then she got upset.
01:23:29.760
I was going to, was I going to send you something?
01:23:34.020
Oh, well, yeah, that was this like, yeah, she was like, and she kind of put in like a
01:23:39.180
little dig, like, oh, well, Bella Donna, she's probably like, she's probably more
01:23:51.740
I was saying like, has anybody at the table even heard of her?
01:24:01.240
I don't like make it a habit of like comparing my popularity with other people.
01:24:12.240
She was like, well, something about, we were talking about the tent thing and she was like,
01:24:17.660
well, Bella Donna, who's probably more popular than you.
01:24:23.020
I was like, I don't really care, but like, I'm just curious.
01:24:26.240
And then I think that got her, then she started getting all, whatever.
01:24:31.780
And wasn't she like saying how like we shouldn't compare people and all that stuff?
01:24:55.300
I'm wondering if we, eh, no, this, I'm wondering if we.
01:24:59.080
Someone said they Google searched her and there's no result.
01:25:27.480
Unrelated to what just happened, apparently Ariana Grande is getting divorced.
01:25:39.060
She was married to, like, a real estate agent in New York.
01:25:42.680
He's, like, not, like, a celebrity or anything.
01:25:44.620
She, like, she just knew him through, like, I think he was her, what was it?
01:25:48.580
He was, he's a, like, very high level real estate agent in New York, and when they got
01:25:53.720
married, I'm pretty sure she said stuff about how it's nice to finally date someone not
01:25:57.440
Damn, so this is what, her third failed marriage, or second failed marriage?
01:26:08.320
You think she's gonna write another song about this one?
01:26:15.340
She's been getting all this, like, controversy just thrown at her because of, like, her body.
01:26:27.320
Yeah, she's always been tiny, but, like, if you do, I will say, if you do look at her
01:26:34.300
Like, I don't know how you could get smaller than what she was.
01:26:38.240
Yeah, I don't really keep up with her, so I don't know what she looks like right
01:26:42.920
It was like, she used to look like the Little Mermaid.
01:26:44.660
Now she looks like the Little Mermaid because the new one's black and has red hair.
01:26:49.760
Last time I saw her, I saw people accusing her of, like, purposely being lighter.
01:27:02.720
Yo, Nick, apparently the fucking chick with blue hair left her phone in the fucking
01:27:29.800
Yeah, Nick, if you could just run it down really quick, I'll take care of everything.
01:27:39.600
If it's not Nick, if she's not there, just fucking leave it on the side.
01:27:47.540
Okay, so, sorry, guys, a little distracted there.
01:27:54.220
Princess, I think we might have Michael Knowles back on here in a sec.
01:27:59.000
Okay, so I have some pre-show notes that some of you provided, so maybe we can touch on some
01:28:08.380
We have, actually, before we do that, so who here has, like, seen the podcast before-ish?
01:28:15.160
Is there anything anyone disagrees with that I've said that you want to argue with me about?
01:28:39.820
Well, I don't really have any disagreements besides, like, some of, like, the stats that
01:28:45.220
you give, like, don't really, I feel like the stats that you give refute your arguments.
01:28:49.380
You always say, like, um, sorry, I'm, like, shitting on you.
01:28:56.720
But we were talking about, like, men and women something, and you always say the saying
01:29:06.500
Men sleep with, men sleep with, no, it goes, women sleep with who they want, men sleep
01:29:11.800
Yeah, but, and, yeah, I just, I just disagree with, like, I agree with that saying, but I
01:29:19.560
Because it's like, if you give a hundred girls to one man, he'll sleep with a hundred.
01:29:24.300
If you give a hundred men to one girl, she'll sleep with, like, one or two of them.
01:29:36.260
You're saying, okay, your point was that women are more promiscuous.
01:29:43.020
Well, no, okay, so the saying, women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they
01:29:46.400
can, isn't necessarily, it doesn't have to do with promiscuity.
01:29:52.640
It has to do with, like, options and selectivity.
01:29:56.380
Yeah, but in that scenario, you used it to kind of back up your argument.
01:30:02.500
But the math I was saying was, like, you give a hundred women to one man, he will sleep with
01:30:38.380
Do you rap at all, or do you want to put something?
01:30:47.900
I don't be doing the freestyle off the dome on the thing.
01:31:00.920
He said, number two, all hail Madison, Wilhelm, never take off the helmet.
01:31:13.660
So I was saying, you always say that saying, men fuck who they can, women fuck who they
01:31:23.660
But if you give a hundred women to one man, he will sleep with all of them.
01:31:34.900
If you give a hundred men to one woman, she will only sleep with one or two of them.
01:31:48.260
I think she's saying what his statistics, what he says.
01:31:57.660
So then would that make a man more valuable if he can sleep with more women?
01:32:06.420
I was just saying like, the saying that you always say kind of refutes your argument because
01:32:11.520
you try to say that women aren't more promiscuous.
01:32:16.500
I think it kind of means that women have basically, it's up to them.
01:32:22.240
The statement, women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they can.
01:32:27.480
I usually don't tie that into my arguments about promiscuity.
01:32:32.500
I usually tie that into like conversations about the ways in which women have an easier
01:32:46.440
So like if I'm debating a girl and she's like, well, I think it's really easy for men to
01:32:49.440
get laid and like men can get laid just as easily as women.
01:32:52.200
Like that is one of the arguments I might bring up.
01:32:55.060
I think it was just like a thought I had last time because the last time you brought that
01:32:58.200
up, we were talking about promiscuity and then you brought that up.
01:33:01.980
That was just like something that came into my head.
01:33:04.100
I think I brought that up in the context of we were talking about, is it easier for women
01:33:08.640
to date than it is for, excuse me, is it easier for women to date than it is for men to date?
01:33:13.160
We might've been not talking about the same thing.
01:33:29.460
How are you a dating coach when you were like in 70 situationships?
01:33:40.140
Uh, in the, in the sources, I click the eyeball for stream yard.
01:33:52.860
Honestly, I, I almost wish cause they can be fun.
01:33:55.860
But at the beginning I said, I'm talking to like one person and go on dates with a few,
01:34:00.080
but, but to entertain our lovely commenter, it's kind of like saying, how are you a chef
01:34:12.720
Um, I help my mostly male clientele get more dates, whether they want casual dates or
01:34:22.160
And how could I do that if I don't know how to myself?
01:34:29.000
Do a lot of the men that you give advice to, like, do you see it becoming successful for
01:34:35.020
One of them, he just started seeing a girl a couple of weeks ago, like very sweetheart
01:34:40.760
vibes, like going on a date, holding off on sleeping together.
01:34:44.520
And she asked him yesterday if she could plan something for his birthday and they're going
01:34:54.320
Um, most of the men I work with are like mid to late twenties.
01:34:58.160
Like they've been focusing on their careers for a while and just like realize they want
01:35:01.980
to maybe start dating and don't know how, especially with dating apps these days, it feels awkward
01:35:12.780
What kind of like advice would you give them though?
01:35:15.080
Just like an example of like one situation that you've had to deal with.
01:35:19.240
Um, the typical situation is men struggling to get likes or get responses with their matches.
01:35:24.600
Um, and I always say to just not expect that many likes because men will sleep with who
01:35:32.860
So it is, do you kind of like, it's unrealistic for a man to expect a lot of likes.
01:35:37.880
So I do expectation management, but to match with the likes that they send, if you have
01:35:43.420
a more charismatic profile, good photos, not like the Margot Robbie selfie, but one where
01:35:48.340
you look good, um, have character in your prompts.
01:35:52.240
So instead of saying, Oh, I like music, say I rap.
01:36:01.800
Maybe she was Bella Donna at one point and was triggered because you didn't know who she
01:36:08.220
That's, that's, uh, that could be a, that's a compelling theory.
01:36:42.920
If you flip it, it's like the four upside down as an H, the O is.
01:36:56.240
So, uh, I have some notes here that you guys provided before the show.
01:37:23.400
I'm, I'm actually going to have you legally change your name after the show to Genevieve.
01:37:31.960
I think you, that's what you, that's what you, it's my specialty.
01:37:36.020
So you offer, do you, your clients, is it mostly men or you got women too?
01:37:40.740
Um, the majority of my following is men and I've noticed men are more likely to spend
01:37:49.280
So like three fourths men, they're more likely to have the money in the society and
01:37:54.240
more likely to need the help, more likely to want it bad enough to invest in it.
01:37:59.880
And I think they just like the way I talk about dating compared to some other male dating
01:38:10.280
So one that will immediately get results, like random people from my high school who find
01:38:14.420
me, they're like, wait, this worked is X out your standouts for like a day or two to
01:38:20.500
So a lot of people complain about just not liking anyone that they match with.
01:38:23.720
Just go to the standouts tab, which is the like most attractive profiles and just X all
01:38:31.020
The other one, which I view as doing it for the girls because every girl I've told it where
01:38:35.880
it's like, I tell men to be more specific with their profiles.
01:38:38.540
So basically have an actual interesting profile, like don't say this year I really want to
01:38:47.620
Say your typical Sunday is listening to the whatever podcast.
01:38:53.100
So X out your standouts, get your prompts a lot more specific so that people actually
01:38:59.360
know what to talk about and then send messages that are worth responding to.
01:39:07.520
But if you ask about their profile or if you just say something silly, like do you know
01:39:14.440
Then it's like, oh, someone will want to say something back.
01:39:16.640
So those three things get more interaction and being active on the app gets you more
01:39:20.560
interaction because all the dating apps these days are heavily prioritizing active users.
01:39:42.080
Um, and let's play out a, let's like, like we just matched.
01:39:49.980
Well, what's your, what's your profile look like?
01:40:09.040
I think if you're, if you're graduated, you shouldn't.
01:40:23.300
I, when I was like 18, 19, I had a situation ship with like a 22 year old and I feel like
01:40:33.600
It's like, I think three years is fine, but like high school senior or college freshman
01:40:43.440
I mean, you're an adult when you're a freshman in college.
01:40:45.520
I think you're just kind of like different on like.
01:40:52.900
If someone can't legally drink, I feel like it's weird for like someone with a degree to
01:40:59.880
Well, at 21, you might still be a junior or senior in college.
01:41:08.180
If you, if you said you were like 20 and I'm 22.
01:41:40.980
Um, all three, all three of the prompts are like, I don't know what the, each individual
01:41:47.400
prompt is, but it's like, I want someone with a yacht.
01:41:54.840
Uh, in this case I do actually, in this case I do.
01:42:05.700
I can give you a character if you want, like a pretty basic 22 year old, 21 year old girl.
01:42:14.960
You like to work out, maybe have a little gun show picture and you like are outdoorsy.
01:42:20.980
I feel like that's a pretty typical type that a lot of men are into.
01:42:30.940
That, I was on hinge for a bit and that's mainly the only thing that men were interested
01:42:39.780
I don't think guys like outdoorsy chicks, to be honest.
01:42:43.880
Like as a dude, I don't know about you, but like as a guy who's fucking busy, I don't
01:42:57.980
I've met like, I don't know the granola type girls.
01:43:00.800
I don't know if, it's really based on how they look.
01:43:03.460
Like she could say, I love hiking, but if you look good, then all right, we go on a
01:43:09.960
I guess I, I don't really care so much about what they're into.
01:43:13.340
But you know, there's like the super outdoorsy chicks that like go on treks.
01:43:35.800
So there's two, there's like three different types of fun.
01:43:57.300
There's basically these psychos that like get fucking.
01:44:13.000
My best friend's dad recently got a small lung cell cancer diagnosis.
01:44:22.560
Hey, sorry to hear about your best friend's dad.
01:44:39.600
Our alerts have been a little scuffed recently.
01:44:42.720
Yeah, like the different types of fun, like these girls are like get stuck in an avalanche
01:44:48.440
Do you guys know what I'm talking about in the chat?
01:44:57.620
Type two fun, miserable when it's happening, fun in retrospect, and type three fun, not
01:45:03.800
fun at all, even when you're looking back on it.
01:45:06.520
So like, and these are like typically these types of outdoorsy people that are all about
01:45:11.420
type two, type three fun where it's like, yo, we got fucking stranded on the Appalachian
01:45:18.400
And then, but it was like exciting, like adventure.
01:45:22.560
I don't like, I don't like those kinds of outdoorsy chicks.
01:45:29.440
I've never even interacted with an outdoorsy chick before.
01:45:31.640
I need to, I mean, LA, the scene, there's not many of them.
01:45:45.640
I haven't met one hiker in my life that was a girl.
01:45:50.700
Have you heard of like Runyon Canyon or something?
01:46:03.860
I think we're, we're getting too much into the weeds here.
01:46:15.200
I'm going to ask what, what ranking you are or.
01:46:28.580
I don't know if that's a fucking Valorant ranking.
01:46:35.640
Well, if like, let's say I'm trying to seduce Miss Gamer Girl over here.
01:46:43.520
Or if you're a granola girl, I'd be like, oh my gosh, have you been on any cool hikes?
01:46:47.300
I'd love to be stranded in an avalanche with you.
01:46:50.560
Or just like, oh, have you ever been to like this specific hike?
01:47:32.720
Well, then we don't have any conversational chemistry and I'd say ghost and move on.
01:47:42.000
But if you said maybe, and I was like, she's so my type.
01:47:46.080
Or you could just be like, oh, like if you're not a coffee drinker, we're like.
01:47:53.180
So you're literally, your second message is just, hey, what's up?
01:47:58.640
Because a lot of people are sick of, I call it digital pen pals.
01:48:05.340
And so if you are someone who's just sick of messaging, get them on a date.
01:48:12.920
A low stakes date, like coffee or drinks, where you can chug your drink if it sucks.
01:48:18.540
If it's drinks, then alcohol is like social lubricant.
01:48:26.720
I'll give you, I'll give you a, oh, I'm not free.
01:48:43.440
And then I'm like, well, like, are you free this weekend?
01:49:01.720
I like a few hours later because have a life and go, oh my gosh, by the way, that doesn't
01:49:06.580
sound very manly, but like, by the way, I'm so bad at checking hinge.
01:49:16.640
And then when we actually go on the date on Sunday, there's more to talk about.
01:49:19.680
What, what day of the week is it when you're messaging me this?
01:49:36.980
Well, if it's Insta, you just kind of already see each other.
01:49:39.060
And then let's say it's Saturday night and I'm like, Hey, are you still good for tomorrow?
01:49:44.500
50% of girls would flake in this situation, but okay.
01:49:57.880
I feel like as a girl, I would never go out with a guy after like two text messages.
01:50:03.920
It is very minimal, but I am trying to be a bit charitable here because I want to get
01:50:07.540
us on the actual date and see, see the game on the date.
01:50:41.880
I named my pedaguana after my deceased pedaguana.
01:51:04.420
So now wouldn't, oh, oh, are you not used to being the guy?
01:51:11.380
Because now you have to, you have to, no, I just didn't know if you wanted to like elaborate
01:51:20.700
Probably ask for a picture of the iguana because people love talking about their pets.
01:51:23.780
And be like, I have an Instagram page dedicated to the iguana.
01:51:25.320
And then I would give like one, I'd follow that if you seem cool.
01:51:28.920
So then give it one, try to reschedule if you flake again, or if you're vague, move
01:51:40.960
I don't know if we're going to role play this whole fucking date.
01:51:45.500
I feel like it doesn't even have to do with like interest.
01:51:48.100
Like I feel like girls only date up and like, I don't, I feel like it has nothing
01:51:54.820
I would say it's a matter of, are both people wanting to actually go on dates?
01:52:02.780
But if you were someone who were, who was like, I really, I want to be in a relationship.
01:52:08.780
Then it would be as simple as maybe a bit more back and forth.
01:52:11.080
Maybe we talk about your love of animals more where it's like, oh my gosh, you have
01:52:24.120
If it's not that easy, then chances are you don't actually want to be dating.
01:52:28.920
We should actually have, maybe towards the end of the show, we're going to have all
01:52:34.020
of you guys try to pick up Madison, pretending to be a guy, hitting on Madison.
01:52:47.360
So you had a couple in your pre-show comments to us.
01:52:59.200
And like, unfortunately, I feel like there were a lot of signs that I probably should have
01:53:07.360
And like, for example, one time in the bedroom, he pulled out a wig and it wasn't like a fun
01:53:15.740
It was like, you know, a short wig, if you know what I'm talking about.
01:53:25.360
So we broke up and he joined like the theater program.
01:53:38.060
You know, as a theater kid from the past, that'll do it to you.
01:53:46.640
So the wig situation, was that like in your head, were you like, oh, that's his?
01:53:57.040
And I still, to this day, do not know if he bought it for that night.
01:54:05.020
Like, I would honestly rather just not know at this point.
01:54:13.160
So also to put it in perspective for you, for the last like three months that we were dating,
01:54:25.740
Like guys have like higher sex drives than girls.
01:54:28.440
Like why are you not wanting to like have sex with me?
01:54:35.600
It was like the one time that he did want to have sex with me, he wanted me to wear that
01:54:47.260
Like it was like short, like it was like, like, remember like that girl that like walked
01:55:03.280
I was like, I don't know what this man is into.
01:55:07.120
What other signs did he give you that like made you think that he was a little bit, um,
01:55:12.420
I mean, a lot of his friends kind of like gestured at the fact that like maybe he was
01:55:21.280
and I really should have listened, but I was in love and you know how first love is like.
01:55:28.020
I was, I was, I, we started dating when I was 16 and then we broke up when I was
01:55:38.820
Like, like very, he's not even like out yet, but I found out that like at some point in
01:55:50.480
Um, so, and it was his best friend too, which was another really great thing.
01:55:55.920
And I was wondering why he started to hang out with his best friend more than he would
01:56:09.580
Anyways, that's the story of how my ex turned gay.
01:56:12.640
Did he ever try to like, like, you know what I mean?
01:56:22.180
And if I did, I would have ran away much faster than I did.
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So like, yeah, um, I got a call one day from one of his friends.
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Um, but obviously he wasn't really his friend if he's calling me and telling me this.
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Basically just that, you know, he like sucked his friend's dick.
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Did he give you like fruity vibes before you started dating or?
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So yeah, that was going to, I was going to say.
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Um, I don't really know what went down on that trip.
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Um, but yeah, he went on a trip and it was like a skiing trip.
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I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you.
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You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from destroying you.
01:58:00.940
They skied on top of this like roof because they thought it would be fun.
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And I swear to you that that was when he turned gay.
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Because that's when all of the signs started happening.
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I was like kind of getting like half masked when I like was around like other dudes, you know?
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Like pretty vibes before because I feel like a common thing with gay people is like they, gay men specifically, they like try to date women to kind of mask the fact that they're gay.
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Would any of you be a beard for like a really hot gay dude?
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Because you know how there's like some super hot.
01:58:58.760
Like would you be a beard for like a really hot.
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Because you have to be okay with him like fucking other dudes, you know?
01:59:39.400
Wait, but like if he's gay, why would he want to like put two babies in me?
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It's like, he wants kids, but he like, as a matter of duty, it's like a duty fuck.
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I feel like if I had to have kids with him, no.
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I mean, he's going to be like, could be pressed.
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The president of the United States, you know what I'm saying?
02:00:22.520
You wouldn't be a fake boyfriend for a lesbian, so people think she's straight?
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Is she like a true lesbian where she's a bit masculine?
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Yeah, if she was feminine, even then, you know what I...
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You know, it's never been my cup of tea, a girl that's into girls.
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I feel like a lot of like, just like a little pattern that I've noticed though, like guys
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Like are you trying to hide the fact that you like it?
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Well, I don't think it's hot, for example, like seeing a chick kissing another dude either.
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Here's the thing though, when it comes to threesomes.
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I'd rather only disappoint one woman at a time.
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I'm super down, but it's like, I feel like, you know, I would do it.
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It's going to be two girls and they're going to kind of be like...
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Like, I've never really pushed for it super heavy with like any...
02:02:58.100
Well, I think the logistics of that, I would agree with you where it's not something that
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Man, I got to get a threesome one of these days.
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Like, again, I think there's a lot of pressure where...
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If I'm doing something with one of them, what's the other one doing?
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Now, again, if it happened, if it fell on my lap...
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I guess if I was, like, really plastered, get me drunk enough, maybe.
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I've had, like, with my ex, I've had couples ask us to, like, do a little, like, switcheroo.
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Like, we were, like, on the way to a threesome and it just didn't happen.
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No, it was me and my friend and then this other guy.
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Yeah, so they were talking, like, pretty seriously.
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And then they started, like, joking about having a threesome with me and then they're, like,
02:05:01.180
They probably weren't initially joking, but they were joking as a setup to kind of get
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I mean, I think I'd maybe be down, but, like...
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Like, I forgot, like, why it didn't happen, but...
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Well, I was with her, and we were, like, she was, like, texting him.
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I just feel like it'd be, like, kind of awkward.
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Like, I could not be your other friend in that situation.
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I don't think I could have a threesome with two guys.
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You heard it here first, exclusively on the Whatever Podcast.
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Like, would you take off your belt and just start working on him?
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Okay, first of all, I wouldn't let another woman walk into the bedroom with us, let alone,
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like, if I were to, like, say, like, I walked in on something, and he was like, you want
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I'll open up to the rest of the panel here, too.
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You open the door to your house, and you hear some, like, some fucking weird noise.
02:07:04.540
I was going to say, like, you see him, like, getting...
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I actually wouldn't hurt him, but I'd scream at him and then get the fuck out.
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Would you feel bad if the chick didn't know that you guys were dating after you smacked
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If you, like, told her that he's single and he lives there, and she's, like...
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Just once, or would you fucking start brawling?
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Okay, what I would do, I'd probably grab her hair, pull that shit out, drag her out of
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the apartment, and then scream at him, and then dip.
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Can you scoot your microphone this way just a time?
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The girl I was gonna have a threesome with, she's like one of my best friends, and I was
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This was after we were gonna have a threesome, but I was dating the guy that I was dating
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for like a year, and she was like one of my best friends, and then he ended up cheating
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You, where did you pick up this chance, the rapper wannabe hoodlum?
02:08:53.920
For soar, I've seen him on Venice Beach trying to finesse for a few bucks.
02:09:03.120
I haven't been to Venice in like four years, so I guess you got the wrong guy.
02:09:07.700
Can we pull up the photo of Mike Davis, because this guy's a real G?
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I just want to say I would threesome with the girl in the short black top and the green shirt.
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I don't know if she heard that, but Riley, did you hear it?
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With the girl in the short black top and the green shirt.
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He owns like 20 million, sorry, excuse me, 223 Burger King chains.
02:10:11.660
So actually, if any of you girls, show of hands, any of you girls would, he like, he's
02:10:22.080
He definitely like hits on pretty much all the girls that come on the show.
02:10:29.260
Any of you guys down to like, he'll fly you out to the East Coast and get you a free Burger
02:10:50.800
So you walk in, you see your boyfriend sleeping with another woman.
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She got the muscles to beat a bitch up, though.
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Because it's not her fault, and he's not acting like a man, so I'm not going to beat the crap
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That is the respectable adult response to that.
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And he's, you walk in, and he's, like, in the wheelchair, and two bitches are just,
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Actually, one of the chicks is also in a wheelchair.
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So it's, like, wheelchair on wheelchair action.
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Okay, well, I mean, honestly, that sounds, like, kind of interesting.
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Well, her boyfriend's open, so I feel like that situation to her is, like, not...
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It would be, like, I mean, I would be surprised that there was more people in wheelchairs,
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because, like, I don't know, that's a little, that's a little surprising, but, yeah.
02:12:18.980
Do you and your boyfriend, like, do stuff together with other people, or is it just him?
02:12:27.980
But, um, I mean, I would definitely be open to it, like, depending on who the girl was.
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The cheating thing, like, if your boyfriend, you walk in, you see your boyfriend of a year
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I'm assuming that they, like, heard me open the door, so saw me.
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Realistically, I'd probably leave in silence, pack my shit, and block.
02:13:06.100
And then, like, journal, cry, do all that shit in private.
02:13:24.080
So, she, my ex cheated on me with, like, one of my best friends, and, but I didn't, like,
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walk in on it or anything, but the next time I saw her, um, we got in a fight.
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I hate even just, like, thinking about and, like, imagining this shit in my head right now.
02:13:44.980
It's different if you're actually in a relationship.
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No, no, I didn't walk in, but, um, at a party, for some reason, she flipped me off, and
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so, like, I went up, and I, like, honestly, like, blacked out.
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So, um, she flipped me off from, like, across the party, and so I went up to her, and I
02:14:19.700
And then she starts, like, cussing me out, and so, like, um, I, like, threw her head into
02:14:25.360
the, like, wall behind her, and then, like, I think I had her by, like, the hair, like,
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The hair was the main thing I was doing, like, I think I literally, like, had it in
02:14:47.380
So I think, like, past me would have been very violent, but, uh, now, I think I would,
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like, definitely cause a scene, you know, like, cry, be like, what the fuck are you doing?
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I wouldn't, like, beat the shit out of them, but I would definitely leave, right?
02:15:00.500
Because when I found out that my ex cheated on me, my, uh, recent one from five months
02:15:04.740
ago, I still wanted, like, my friends to be friends with him, you know what I mean?
02:15:10.120
I didn't want, like, any bad blood, and I always, like, wish the best for him, because
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at that, at one point, I did love him, and I, I still wish the best for him, even though,
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like, he's kind of fucked me over a little bit.
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I'm, I'm also, like, kind of, like, a private person when it comes to my relationship, so,
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like, I don't really, like, telling everyone, like, hey, like, he cheated on me, like, don't
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So, Madison's the only one that would beat the shit out of the chick.
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Okay, I didn't say, like, beat the shit out of him.
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I said I would maybe, like, grab her hair, like, drag her out of the apartment, but that's,
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And it's hard to say what I would actually do in that situation, because I'm not in that
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You go back to your house, you see your girl, getting, you know.
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I would, yeah, I would be a very smooth, oh, and then walk out.
02:16:15.620
No, I think I would immediately walk out, because what does, having some sort of, like,
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Like, if I punch anyone or do anything, so what?
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That's not gonna help the situation in any way.
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So, it's like, all right, I guess we're done now.
02:16:44.720
And maybe the girl, I don't know if that, here, we'll just.
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We won't stick on this too long, but show of hands, like, does it change anything if
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it was, like, one of your close female friends that was sleeping with?
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But I, if it was, like, some random dude, like, who he didn't know, I don't, like, bro,
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she probably lied to him or whatever, but I agree with you, like, it's just, like, the
02:17:26.680
biggest thing you can do is probably just fucking, okay, we're done.
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Or, uh, but, uh, one thing I always did find interesting, though, like, let's say you were
02:17:38.040
to attack somebody, like, why would you attack, like, assuming they didn't know, like, wouldn't
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you have more, more beef with, uh, your partner than the person that they're cheating on with?
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Like, cause you, you'll see, like, a dude might, like, whoop the shit out of the fucking
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guy who she's cheating on with or, or the reverse, you know, so.
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I guess, like, your first, like, initial reaction is, though, like, is, like, yeah, it's
02:18:04.840
just, like, anger, like, she knows, like, I don't know, maybe that's not it all the
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time, but that's also why it changes, like, if they're your friend or something, because
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they do know, which is why, like, I would act out a little more anger.
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Men who don't cheat are liars or just don't have the option to cheat, and why would you
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want to be with a man who doesn't have options?
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Shut up, Yarl, hear me out, men who don't cheat, cheat are liars or just don't have the
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I think I, did I, I was gonna DM him and invite him on the show.
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Anyways, uh, why would you want to be with a man who doesn't have options?
02:18:58.460
Why wouldn't, why wouldn't you want to be with a guy who doesn't have options?
02:19:01.700
Well, that makes sense for me, because, like, I kind of like when girls, like, hit on the
02:19:05.880
guy I'm with, because it kind of, like, makes me feel better.
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I mean, I feel like that's kind of, like, my philosophy with this all.
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It's like, my boyfriend, when he's not in a wheelchair, has many, many options.
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And for me, it's like, why would you want to be with a man who doesn't have options?
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It's kind of like, you want, like, a high value man.
02:19:32.020
And obviously, if girls are attracted to that man, that man has value, and they can provide
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And at the end of the day, it's like, it's not where a man goes, it's where he, like,
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I feel like it's a little inevitable to say, like, that, though.
02:19:46.740
Like, I feel like everyone has options, in a way.
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No, not everyone, everyone, because you're going to shit on me for that.
02:19:59.180
But, like, usually people in relationships, they have a couple options, you know?
02:20:06.840
I just feel like women tend to have more options than men.
02:20:11.300
Yeah, I'm not saying, like, men have more options than women do, but I'm just saying,
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like, my boyfriend definitely has other options.
02:20:18.900
Especially if he's an attractive male or an attractive woman, you're going to have options.
02:20:24.460
Well, so you, you currently, you're, how many girls is your boyfriend seeing?
02:20:32.260
I would not be okay with it if I was not the main chick.
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I mean, he gives me everything that I would need, like, comfort, love, attention, you know,
02:20:50.220
Right, so, like, he entirely provides for me, which is why I'm okay.
02:20:54.180
Obviously, like, you know, he provides sex as well, and he provides sex to other women,
02:20:58.860
but, like, at the end of the day, it's not about the other woman, because he's only providing
02:21:04.260
He provides me everything, and I feel like all men would cheat if they had the option.
02:21:13.860
I think, I mean, it is sort of a, there's definitely, like, guys who believe in monogamy
02:21:27.980
I mean, yeah, maybe they wouldn't cheat, but does that mean that they don't want to?
02:21:31.400
You don't think, like, if a guy sees an attractive girl, like, at a club, and they're a little
02:21:41.480
I guess, I guess it is different, but I feel like it all comes from, like, the same place
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Because, I mean, the actual thought process there would be, hmm, yeah, she's really hot.
02:21:57.260
Like, then, I don't think that's, a guy might be like, oh, yeah, she's an attractive girl,
02:22:05.380
Like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to cheat.
02:22:08.180
And there are, like, one of my friends who's been on the show probably a dozen times, his
02:22:15.440
name's Chase, very religious guy, Christian guy.
02:22:22.920
Well, I mean, he's had sex previously, but he kind of became religious, and he's like,
02:22:27.840
you know what, I'm going to wait until marriage, and he strikes me as a guy who has convictions,
02:22:33.000
and he's like, I'm waiting until marriage to have sex with my wife.
02:22:39.480
I don't get the impression that he's the type of guy, once he gets married, or if he's got
02:22:44.360
a girlfriend and whatever, that he would cheat on her.
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And I think, I think that's partly due to, like, his conviction, his religious convictions.
02:22:56.780
Like, and he, not to, like, reveal too much, but, like, there are, he gets probably, he's
02:23:06.680
He gets, he's had, like, thousands of DMs from chicks.
02:23:11.440
And it's pretty rare for, like, girls to DM guys, I generally speak.
02:23:17.440
He's an attractive guy, but I think they're really attracted to just, like, he's, like,
02:23:28.780
Because I am saving myself for marriage as well.
02:23:34.240
I have convictions, and I've gone on full repentance.
02:23:39.720
And, I mean, every single day is you work to be, to repent.
02:23:43.080
But, my goal in life is to find a man who is willing to put in the work to have self-control
02:23:50.100
Oh, so you were hoping Chase would be on tonight's episode, weren't you?
02:24:04.080
Either I did slid into his DMs, but I remember opening the DM.
02:24:13.740
He told me, he's like, dude, I need to hire somebody to go through all these.
02:24:38.860
Yeah, I'm sure a ton of people have deleted their DMs.
02:24:41.180
But yeah, you got like thousands of DMs and shit.
02:24:42.940
But so, I definitely think men are capable of not cheating.
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But I think the temptation is there, certainly as a guy.
02:24:52.360
Because I think, who do you think is more likely to cheat, though?
02:24:57.720
The guy who doesn't have a bunch of options, and he's got a girlfriend, but like another
02:25:02.120
girl comes along, and he's like, maybe I want to take this up.
02:25:05.740
Or a guy who's got like tons of options, and it's just like, I feel like it's less tempting
02:25:13.580
I think if you're an insecure man, you're more likely to cheat.
02:25:17.020
Like, it's arguably worse in its own way to catch your boyfriend being ghosted by a bunch
02:25:25.940
And then if he is insecure, then he would jump at an opportunity to be with someone else.
02:25:30.920
Whereas this Chase guy, who I have no idea who that is, seems like he's securing himself,
02:25:38.960
Well, he's also waiting until marriage, so that's a pretty good buffer.
02:25:46.960
He could still cheat like emotionally or go out with people.
02:25:51.960
I get the impression from conversations I've had with him that he's like, he strikes me
02:25:57.180
as a very loyal, when it comes to like a romantic relationship type of guy.
02:26:01.740
So, wait, so, okay, you are waiting until marriage, but you previously, there were some
02:26:07.640
indiscretions, or, so were you always Christian, or you recently became Christian?
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I think we need to get her a seat booster, by the way.
02:26:18.760
Is there one on one of the chairs, or did we use that?
02:26:26.680
I grew up in a faith-based home, but my faith is my own.
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And then, when I went to college, and in the last few years, I completely abandoned
02:26:36.360
my own faith, and in the last, you know, few months, maybe six months, I have completely
02:26:43.400
switched my life around and just devoted it to Christ.
02:26:49.760
Okay, so, wait, so, like, when's the last time that you got with a dude in that way?
02:27:15.580
If Chase comes on to me and says, oh, I want to sleep with you, I'm like, okay, you're
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And I think that we all fall short every single day.
02:27:26.120
And so, a mistake that I made two months ago has nothing to do with who I am.
02:27:31.200
So, you said it was a mistake you made two months ago, but prior to the two months ago,
02:27:36.400
had you already decided to make this commitment of, I'm going to wait until marriage?
02:27:44.380
There was a mistake with somebody that I was in a serious relationship with.
02:27:52.280
And yes, and then, you know, feelings happen and, you know, things happen, but...
02:27:57.120
But you had already made the commitment, hadn't you?
02:28:05.240
Yeah, but I mean, every single day you say you don't want to be a liar, but you lie and
02:28:09.300
you cheat and you get really mad when you get in a road rage.
02:28:42.420
Chase will go out with you if you make it 24 months straight.
02:28:53.100
You're a really attractive girl, but I don't...
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He's got a girlfriend right now, so I don't know.
02:29:25.100
So, if you meet a new guy, are you going to disclose to him that I did have a hiccup a
02:29:38.240
And if he's going to judge me, then what's he got to say about his track record as well?
02:29:53.000
No, what I mean is, like, if he asks me, I'm not going to just say it, like, hey, by the
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If he asks me, if he says, are you saving yourself a marriage, I would say yes, and he would
02:30:09.820
say, when was the last time that you were promiscuous?
02:30:15.100
And then I would tell him, but, you know, that's not going to happen.
02:30:27.000
But we're talking about when you talk about it.
02:30:30.080
If he asked me, and I mean, in a relationship, you have to be open with things, of course.
02:30:36.020
But if it's, like, the first date, I mean, if it's, like, the first date, and he asked
02:30:38.760
me that, then I would be like, whoa, that's a really big question for a first date.
02:30:44.600
But you guys, you were kind of agreeing with her a little bit.
02:30:47.600
I was agreeing with the, like, it'd be really strange to talk about, like, unless you're
02:30:59.140
No, to talk about, like, waiting till marriage, I feel like it doesn't make sense to bring it
02:31:03.640
up unless you're already considering seriously dating them.
02:31:07.380
So I'm like, yeah, it's not a first dates business if you're waiting for marriage or
02:31:16.140
Unless you're, like, getting frisky and you're like, oh, by the way, I'm waiting till marriage.
02:31:22.760
And then let's say they have a conversation of, like, oh, how long has it been?
02:31:29.500
Like, yeah, exactly, this conversation would be the exact conversation that I would probably
02:31:39.040
I think the bigger thing is about, like, asking about the past, but you think it'd be weird?
02:31:49.300
And I was like, that would probably be one of the first things I would ask if I was.
02:31:55.680
I'd want to get that out of the way on the app.
02:31:57.880
Do you think she would ask, like, should ask if you're saving yourself for marriage,
02:32:03.180
Well, if that's what you want in a partner, I don't see a point in going on a date with
02:32:07.040
someone that's, like, that's just such a difference in value that I think it's better
02:32:15.900
Wouldn't faith come up first before you get into the...
02:32:19.320
Because, like, devotion to God is bigger than just, are you bumping uglies or not?
02:32:36.680
If it was, like, an absolutely not, you wouldn't even go on a date with that person, you probably
02:32:42.180
wouldn't go, like, by the way, are you saving yourself for marriage?
02:32:44.460
It would be, like, the third question after, like, oh, are you, do you practice your faith?
02:32:52.160
Oh, let's pull up the Twitch really quick, but I do have a point on that.
02:32:55.760
Nick, if you're able to pull it up, pull up the Twitch.
02:33:23.260
So do you think, and we'll open it up to the entire panel, do you think, let's take religion
02:33:30.460
out of it, but let's say a guy's on a date with a girl and he's curious, he's like, hey,
02:33:38.720
so I'm trying to think of, like, the most diplomatic way to bring it up on a date.
02:33:44.720
Let's say he doesn't do it in, like, a skeezy way, but essentially he's asking about, like,
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Do you think that's, like, is this the first date?
02:34:06.820
It's valid to want to know about relationship history.
02:34:09.880
So I assume if he's asking about sexual past, it's valid enough to be, like, oh, like, have
02:34:19.120
And that's only makes sense to me if you're dating seriously.
02:34:22.960
But it's kind of skeezy to ask about body count on a first date.
02:34:26.200
It should wait until, like, I'd say a few dates.
02:34:29.280
But if it's respectful, then it would start with, like, I assume you'd want a more holistic
02:34:33.520
view of were you sexual in relationships in the past?
02:34:41.080
So if a guy first date asks you, hey, I'm trying to think the exact wording because obviously
02:34:48.480
there's, like, there's a way that you can go about it to make it more palatable.
02:34:55.900
What's the most palatable way you could ask this?
02:35:02.520
I would say a vague history, like, what's your sort of sexual history, like, if you don't
02:35:08.520
Let's say he just politely is just like, he's not kind of being scummy about it, but
02:35:12.600
he's just like, hey, so what's your body count?
02:35:22.980
One of the comments, don't ask intimate questions on the first date.
02:35:30.940
People who, like, don't like the girl after, you're just like, I know her body count, but
02:35:36.240
Better than, like, sooner, better sooner than later.
02:35:40.100
And it's, it's, I feel like that's a good conversation.
02:35:43.380
But I feel like it's a conversation to have when you're actually getting sexual with that
02:35:46.940
partner, not on, like, the first date where you're just kind of getting to know each
02:35:50.060
other, like, where you're from and shit like that.
02:35:52.800
It's like, I don't even know if I want to fuck you yet.
02:35:57.260
Like, you're not going to be a part of it yet, so.
02:35:59.700
I would say it's a little, like, off-putting, but I wouldn't be, like, offended by it.
02:36:20.640
I mean, like, if he also tells me his body count.
02:36:40.680
That was low-key bothering me a little bit, too.
02:36:47.160
I feel like if it also kind of came up in the conversation, then it'd be less weird.
02:37:01.660
Wait, but aren't you, like, half Asian, though?
02:37:05.560
I just, I've never found an Asian guy attractive.
02:37:13.220
But it's just, like, it just came up in my head.
02:37:16.380
Like, oh, like, it's kind of weird that I've, like, never been attracted to an Asian guy.
02:37:22.740
I used to not find Asians attractive, but, like, now I do.
02:37:25.980
I think it's more so, like, they can relate to me more with, like, culture and everything like that.
02:37:30.740
So, like, me personally, I really, like, I like dating Asian guys.
02:37:38.880
I don't necessarily have, like, a type when it comes to, like, physical.
02:37:45.400
But, like, I'll date, like, you know, any race.
02:38:13.240
Did we not have this conversation, like, literally two episodes ago?
02:38:46.900
Okay, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.
02:38:55.240
I mean, personally, like, I think Asian women are very attractive, but I've never really
02:39:06.640
There are statistics that Asian men are more discriminated against in dating apps.
02:39:15.000
If I was gay, I would go for the Asian, I'm just saying, I would go for Asian men.
02:39:20.740
Because you like Asian women, so that's why you can say that.
02:39:35.280
Yeah, do you have any preferences when it comes to...
02:39:37.260
I've definitely messed with the whole color wheel, so I don't think I have, like,
02:39:45.860
Like, I've had an Asian chapter, and I had, like, a white chapter, and stuff like that.
02:39:55.920
And, yeah, I've been with, like, Sudanese and Ethiopian and all that type of shit.
02:40:30.140
I've just found that I, like, am not as attracted to Asian men.
02:40:42.000
I'm offended on behalf of Asian men everywhere.
02:40:54.800
I think the reason, and, you know, me not being Asian, I don't know too much about this,
02:40:59.060
but I think the same reason why, you know, Asian women are attractive works to the detriment
02:41:05.960
So, like, the very smooth complexion and, like, facial structure, it's, like, Asian women
02:41:11.940
have very soft kind of faces and not hard features.
02:41:15.320
Like, they don't have, like, big noses, whatever.
02:41:17.940
And, like, those same features on a man, like, soft features is more feminine.
02:41:34.480
Well, I'm not into men, so I can't speak on the attractiveness of...
02:41:38.640
But I can only reason on why might people gravitate towards certain physical features
02:41:43.900
and jawline and muscular build and all that type of stuff.
02:41:55.300
So anybody can be remarkably attractive, but...
02:41:59.500
A lot of my male clients are Southeast Asian, so they're struggling.
02:42:09.480
A couple of them have girlfriends now after working with me.
02:42:17.080
Most women have no idea how much work men put in before we could even get a date.
02:42:27.840
Most men don't know how simple it is to actually get dates.
02:42:36.140
From, like, a woman's perspective, it's not that hard.
02:42:39.300
And from me getting screenshots from the men I work with, it's not that hard.
02:42:46.560
I mean, there is, like, a study where women, like, literally only like 3% of men's profiles.
02:43:01.000
I mean, it's like the top 5% of men are getting, like, 90%...
02:43:06.260
Like, the top 5% of men are getting 95% of the women on these dating apps.
02:43:13.260
But barely any of them are actually talking to each other.
02:43:19.200
To get on a date, which is what, like, the riz would be for, to actually interact with them.
02:43:36.120
Not to, like, dog on your job, but I was just gonna say, like...
02:43:40.680
If you found out, like, your man that you're talking to or your woman that you're talking
02:43:46.280
to had, like, someone, like, helping them, you know?
02:43:49.760
Like, get a date with you, how would you feel about that?
02:43:55.620
I mean, I wouldn't really care as long as, like, they're not doing, like, everything.
02:44:00.240
Like, as long as it's showing, like, a little bit of his personality and, like, someone's
02:44:04.220
not writing the whole thing for him, I don't think it matters.
02:44:08.160
I feel like it's kind of, like, funny, but also, like, cute at the same time.
02:44:12.360
Like, I wouldn't, like, judge you if you didn't know how to talk to women.
02:44:15.260
Like, if anything, that's great that you don't know how to talk to women because that means
02:44:18.880
you haven't really been with a lot of women, right?
02:44:21.400
So it's, like, yeah, that's how I feel about it.
02:44:26.400
Well, one thing that the people I've worked with have struggled with is, like, if the
02:44:30.320
person they're talking to finds out that they've gotten help, I think it's only happened once
02:44:35.660
where it's, like, a guy's friend found out and she was, like, that's weird.
02:44:41.120
But, like, let's say I was dating someone to find out that they had a coach.
02:44:44.060
First of all, I'd want to talk to the coach, but I think it's admirable if a man cares enough
02:44:53.220
Like, the fact that you had professional help doesn't take away.
02:44:57.200
In fact, it proves that you are committed to this, and I think it's different from matchmaking.
02:45:05.520
I'm saying, like, for conversations, instead of it sounding like an interview, be like, hey,
02:45:15.120
They're just getting help, which is why I focus on dating apps, because that is kind of hard
02:45:22.080
I guess, like, for me, I feel like, honestly, like, it would probably be, like, a little bit
02:45:30.860
Personally, like, I just, like, feel like the man should, like, always, like, take the lead
02:45:38.920
Well, I mean, have y'all seen the movie Hitch with Will Smith?
02:45:45.340
It's about how he helps men get women, but not into bed, but more find love, because
02:45:52.620
it's hard for men to really understand how to talk to women sometimes.
02:45:56.580
And so, I think getting help, it's like a therapist.
02:45:59.640
Like what you said, like, I'm in therapy because I want to change myself to be better for the
02:46:05.980
You know, you have to work in life to, you know, be good.
02:46:11.780
Yeah, I know for a fact, no girl, none of y'all have ever looked up how to talk to a
02:46:20.100
You guys go on videos right now and say how to get a guy to like you.
02:46:23.380
I think in, like, middle school, I would definitely do that as well.
02:46:27.440
And then you grew up and realized, oh, I don't have to do anything.
02:46:29.840
Yeah, I usually just go, like, hi, you're cute.
02:46:33.920
I mean, if a girl ever did that, learn, try to talk to me, whatever, that'd be great.
02:46:40.120
But it is, it is funny, that concept that I think a lot of girls would be turned off
02:46:44.460
by that if they found out their man needed extracurricular help to learn how to talk.
02:46:50.160
Because the best way to get women is to have women.
02:47:03.320
I was able to, one time I went to, like, a, what's it called, like a Pilates thing?
02:47:16.560
But the only reason, probably, why the friend already thought I was cool was because I already
02:47:21.340
had the social proof that I was with a beautiful woman.
02:47:23.740
So she knew, like, oh, this guy must already be cool.
02:47:26.000
Whereas if I would have just went up to the friend and didn't know, she'd be like, all
02:47:31.660
But it's like, when women know you get women or know you can talk to women, they like you.
02:47:36.800
Because it's just like, if other women mess with them, well, I will.
02:47:40.600
But if other women don't mess with them, why would I?
02:47:44.380
I just think, like, for me personally, it would be a little bit strange to, like, hear, say,
02:47:51.460
like, my boyfriend, for example, like, need someone else to kind of help him.
02:47:55.920
Because, I don't know, I've just, the way I'm thinking about it, it's like, imagine it's
02:47:59.160
like his, like, girl best friend, like, trying to help him talk.
02:48:22.640
I do profile reviews, because those are pretty quick and immediate results, for $64 for, like,
02:48:29.400
a 10, 15-ish minute review, in-depth suggestions.
02:48:32.720
I do month-long coaching for $1,500, taking on clients for August right now.
02:48:39.980
I can only take, like, five-ish at a time, so opening up for August.
02:48:43.640
It's about, it's a few hundred a week for message support, voice notes, a weekly coaching
02:48:51.560
I always call them before a first date to be, like, you got this.
02:48:57.660
Because usually first dates, it's just anxiety.
02:49:02.440
Most of my videos that do well, it's me just being, like, here's what to ask on a first date.
02:49:05.260
No one actually asks it, but it feels nice when you go to the date to know you can talk
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So it's, like, it's like a girl best friend without the weirdness of that.
02:49:14.880
Has anybody ever told you this following objection?
02:49:22.620
And it's the same thing where I'm, like, first of all, the foundation is so problematic calling
02:49:29.140
women fish, and it's, like, you're trying to catch them.
02:49:31.900
As one of the commenters observed, I'm not giving pickup lines.
02:49:39.720
Like, pickup artists being, like, oh, like, don't ask a fish how to catch fish.
02:49:46.820
I know it's an analogy, but it's, like, the mind of a woman.
02:49:51.400
It's kind of, like, I've always said guys who grew up with sisters are typically better
02:49:56.620
to date because they already view women as, like, people, and they know how to interact
02:50:01.520
with women as opposed to, like, the Madonna whore, like, viewing women as either a mother
02:50:14.140
No, but I don't think men who don't have sisters view women.
02:50:24.860
I think it's a, like, correlation, not a causation.
02:50:28.600
Men who grew up with sisters tend to be more normal with women.
02:50:33.980
That doesn't mean that if you didn't grow up with sisters, you're awful.
02:50:46.160
Well, no, no, no, it's your previous comment was men who grew up without sisters or men
02:50:54.580
who grew up with sisters are more likely to, you know, view them as actual human beings
02:50:59.620
or what I forgot exactly what you said, but I think it was about.
02:51:08.080
I mean, it's not clear to me if you have a sister that.
02:51:11.520
Because your sister isn't necessarily raising you.
02:51:13.640
And your experience with, like, understanding women.
02:51:20.040
Like, you need to understand women to be able to date women.
02:51:22.760
Well, I think it's a more fair statement to say that if you grew up with a sister,
02:51:26.980
perhaps you have more firsthand experience having a relationship with someone who's a woman.
02:51:36.880
I think that's kind of just, like, exactly what she's saying, though.
02:51:46.060
No, but you're saying that men who didn't grow up with sisters.
02:51:48.400
No, I just said men who didn't grow up with sisters can still be solid people.
02:52:05.100
I have gotten the comment to go back to the fishing.
02:52:08.300
But, and to your credit, I think, because I think what a lot of guys might say is, is, like, well, okay, you're a dating coach.
02:52:18.220
But, like, to your credit, I think you said you're bisexual, correct?
02:52:23.920
So, you do have, to some degree, experience dating women.
02:52:29.460
However, you don't have experience as a straight man dating women.
02:52:34.860
And I think there's a difference, there is a difference there.
02:52:37.800
Because the dating dynamics between women who are bisexual or who are lesbian, it differs quite substantially between the dating dynamics between straight men and straight women.
02:52:50.500
Or I suppose you could say with straight men and bi women, but that's kind of whatever.
02:52:55.660
Being a man trying to pursue women is different than being a woman trying to pursue that.
02:52:59.260
Yeah, because I think women, let's say a woman who's bi, she's going to give, let's not even, we can say a woman who's bi.
02:53:11.260
A woman who's bi is going to give another girl a lot more leeway than a straight guy.
02:53:18.120
There's going to be much, I think there's going to be.
02:53:22.500
There's going to be, I think there's going to be much more expectations on a straight man, like, from a bisexual woman.
02:53:29.300
She's going to expect more from the straight man than from another woman.
02:53:34.960
In fact, she might even, like, for example, she may kind of lean more into having the guy be the initiator, whereas she's like, she might be more of a pursuer when it comes to women.
02:53:45.600
I feel like that makes a little bit of sense, though, because she's already, she's already a woman.
02:53:49.880
She knows how women operate, like, she's already figured it out, kind of, so that's why she'd be able to pursue the woman.
02:53:57.700
Well, then also, what about, like, paying for the first date?
02:53:59.940
I think there's typically more of an expectation that, like, guys pay for the first date.
02:54:03.360
That's why I say coffee dates, because everyone has five bucks to be nice, but no one's going to be offended if he didn't pay for coffee.
02:54:09.280
Well, say if it's, like, two women going on a date together, whoever, like, I feel like in situations where it's, like, two women are in a relationship, there's always one that's a little more feminine and one that's a little more masculine.
02:54:21.480
So the one that's a little more masculine would obviously pay in that situation.
02:54:26.680
I feel like no matter, like, which gender, I think whoever, like, initiated the asking out, like, whoever invited you to go out, you know?
02:54:38.000
Can we just have you repeat that one more time?
02:54:40.100
Yeah, so I feel like it doesn't matter which gender, like, whoever asked the other person out, whoever initiated it should be the one paying.
02:55:01.820
You'd, like, would that be the ideal scenario for you?
02:55:05.280
I just think that's the most, I think that's the most fair way to do it.
02:55:07.780
What do you think, of all the first dates that have occurred in the past five years, if you had to, like, break down who's the initiator in, let's say, heterosexual relationships, would you say it's men or women?
02:55:28.220
Like, 90% men, 95% men, 99% men are asking for the first date?
02:55:39.920
I also feel like girls kind of expect the guys to ask them out, you know?
02:55:59.040
I don't suspect there are, but, like, maybe there are, but, I mean, it seems a little self-evident to me that overwhelmingly men are initiating first dates.
02:56:19.600
And I have, like, and she was a fan of the videos that I make.
02:56:22.720
So, because you have, like, you're very popular.
02:56:39.500
Sometimes I get it backwards, but, so, like, you got...
02:56:46.180
Wait, just to clarify, like, she asked, but you get some DMs from girls, or, like...
02:56:56.740
I'm like, I don't think people would talk to you.
02:57:02.600
Like, put a girl in your boots, in your shoes, like, and with the exact same, like, a million followers on Instagram, 8 million followers on YouTube.
02:57:23.140
But even, like, a girl who's got, like, a thousand followers on Instagram is getting, like...
02:57:30.540
I know we've got some content creators here, but maybe we could see what the situation is.
02:57:35.580
So, Maddie, you've been on the show a little bit, so, I mean, guys are probably, like, sliding into your DMs from the show, despite the fact that you're in a relationship.
02:57:51.020
Yeah, I would still get a lot of DMs from men, but I would say ever since I've been on the show, it, like, skyrocketed.
02:58:01.580
Before the show, like, how many per week or how many per month?
02:58:11.560
I mean, some dudes don't even get that their entire lives.
02:58:40.520
And, you know, I also do OnlyFans, so there's always people...
02:58:44.080
I'd say, like, before you did, like, your whole content.
02:58:46.100
Before I did content creating, I would say, like, I would probably get, I don't know,
02:59:00.480
My account's always been private, and my only public one is dating coaching.
02:59:05.840
With the dating coaching, I'll have people, like, hitting on me just, like, a couple times a month.
02:59:13.640
Before that, just, like, once a month or something with my little private hometown account.
02:59:22.840
Were you getting chicks or dudes hitting you up?
02:59:27.140
No, I would, I only get, would get on, like, my personal account, like, maybe, maybe once
02:59:38.840
I feel like I get, like, a good amount every day.
02:59:43.480
Like, they'll call me, they'll call me, like, mommy, and they'll be, like, can you please,
02:59:52.060
Like, actually, I've had people request to, like, curb stomp them.
03:00:00.940
Like, they, this guy offered to, like, pay me to, like, kick him in the nuts for, like,
03:00:10.200
And this one guy actually paid me one time to come to my house in a maid outfit, and he
03:00:40.780
He wore heels, and he cleaned my entire house, and then paid me.
03:00:50.060
Well, he, he was like a sub, and he found me through like Instagram.
03:00:57.580
Well, because one time I put, I put these naked wolf boots on my store, and I was like,
03:01:02.640
And this guy was like, I will buy them for you if.
03:01:07.680
And like, I had a relationship with him for like two years.
03:01:19.740
One time, he made me stand on his whole face with both of my feet.
03:01:26.540
Wait, I thought it was just like a random dude, though.
03:01:29.100
He was a random dude, but like, turns out he lived like five minutes away from me at my
03:01:33.920
Can you scoot the mic just that way a little bit?
03:01:35.540
Where was this story on earlier on in the show?
03:01:40.980
Does anybody, we'll go into that a little bit, but does anybody else have some crazy shit
03:01:47.520
Looking at you, I feel like you've got some skeletons.
03:01:52.600
Some dude just like dressed, wanted to show up dressed as a fucking monk or some shit.
03:01:55.700
No, but I do have somebody that has been harassing me since I was 14 years old.
03:02:06.140
Um, he paid me like a band to clean my house and like suck on my toes.
03:02:15.480
Like he, like he's bought me like my whole shoe collection is just from him.
03:02:21.020
He had a really big like shoe fetish, not even foot.
03:02:29.840
Yeah, but he also like, it was a long distance relationship after I left Virginia.
03:02:34.880
So I would send him videos of me walking in heels and he would pay me for that.
03:02:45.160
He would pay me like $300 a week just because, but also I would be like, hey, can you pay for
03:03:08.740
So you, if you had to take a guess, a stab at how much total, are we talking 10,000,
03:03:24.560
Like, I don't know, maybe like 30,000 or something like that.
03:03:32.840
She got men paying her bills for her, cleaning her house, sticking her clothes.
03:03:40.320
Have you had other dudes, maybe not on this scale?
03:03:45.820
I've had, I've had a guy pay me for live streams, but I was never naked.
03:03:52.100
Like, he just like, I guess like really liked talking to me.
03:03:55.800
And, um, yeah, I would like, I would wear like something skimpy or like, he'd be like,
03:04:06.240
And then you like pick out an outfit, blah, blah, blah.
03:04:08.400
And like, this man would pay me, I think at most he paid me $4,000 for like a one to
03:04:29.060
And then like, after like the 10 minutes is up, he'd be like, okay, wait, can I give
03:04:45.000
Hey, Brian, are you aware of the Adam 22 lean of the plug situation with Jason Love?
03:04:54.960
Unfortunately, the way StreamYards work, it won't show those like renewed membership
03:05:07.840
We're, we're, I might go, I'm going to go on NoJumper and then we're going to try to
03:05:12.680
get, we've been, we were going to try to get him on, on Friday, him and his wife to
03:05:17.560
So, uh, we might do that potentially later on in the month with, it's hard to, it's
03:05:34.780
If I would have tuned in earlier, I would have reserved the flames for that pink feminist
03:05:42.420
Brian, sometimes you got to throw out the trash before it takes itself out.
03:05:53.600
Um, you know, luckily they didn't cause a huge scene, you know, I wasn't too phased with
03:06:00.100
it, you know, just they left, didn't, you know, so whatever.
03:06:14.500
Um, 1,000 to 4,000, and you, these would be like two, three hours?
03:06:20.200
Like two-ish hours, but it's not like I did it like all the time.
03:06:23.280
It was like a once in a month and maybe if he was like feeling really horny late at night
03:06:30.060
And what if he was like re-streaming your stream to like another stream and like, you know
03:06:36.480
Um, no, so the thing is, is that like he had this like whole trauma about another girl
03:06:42.900
that he did it with and he was like telling me about it and how like they found out like
03:06:46.020
um, his name IRL and then his friends found out and everything cause like I know, like
03:06:53.680
So he was like, I would never do that to you because like I know that you can blackmail
03:06:58.840
Wait, so okay, so how many times did you do this live stream?
03:07:05.740
Oh, six, okay, ten times and you said between what?
03:07:07.720
But like I'm really busy now, you know, so it's like when he hits me up like I kind
03:07:14.900
Oh, so he, you're still kind of in touch with him?
03:07:17.080
Yeah, I'm not in touch with the, the foot guy anymore.
03:07:20.100
I think he goes to me after he had a girlfriend, which makes sense.
03:07:22.820
But the other guy, like, I mean, I have love for both of them, you know, it's
03:07:31.620
And we will go around the table kind of, okay, I'm just trying to parse this.
03:07:36.960
Yeah, and we didn't finish the initial one, but okay, so that guy probably paid
03:07:49.060
The first guy, he had like interesting requests that he wanted you to do.
03:07:57.380
Yeah, he would like make, I would spit on the floor and he'd lick it up.
03:08:05.200
I think that's like what turned me into like the dominant woman I am today.
03:08:09.580
That, did you kind of like, were you enjoying it?
03:08:15.980
Low key, I felt awkward because like I didn't find him like attractive or anything.
03:08:23.200
But like now, it's like fun to like be like a switch in bed, you know, and like show like
03:08:28.060
the dominant side that I learned how to do from that.
03:08:30.800
Can we do a, can you and Ryan do a little, you said you can be Dom.
03:08:57.220
I don't think I can, I don't think I can have that out there.
03:08:59.000
Ryan, would you let me choke you and spit in your mouth?
03:09:03.380
See, I'm, but you guys picked the wrong person for the, for that one.
03:09:10.560
Well, I mean, like, yeah, I wouldn't do it live.
03:09:18.020
Wait, are you trying to get them to do something on the show?
03:09:20.500
No, not like anything obscene, but just like, like, how would you talk?
03:09:24.080
Like, are you talking like degradation type shit?
03:09:28.300
I'd be like, you fucking pathetic piece of shit.
03:09:34.760
How do these dudes like also somehow have like a shit ton of money?
03:09:58.360
I just make a good amount of money to take care of myself and my family.
03:11:07.880
It's the, it's the, the, the circle of life of OnlyFans.
03:11:11.920
Your dudes are paying for your feet pics or whatever the fuck.
03:11:18.260
Would the reverse not be more like she pays to send you pics?
03:11:25.100
Because otherwise you're just reversing customer client.
03:11:48.300
I'm not, I'm not going to show anything right now.
03:11:56.140
That's crazy though that like, I mean, we've heard it before from the girls on,
03:11:59.920
on the panel that there's like a bunch of dudes who are like spending tons of money
03:12:26.740
And then have you had any situations like her where dudes just be simping and sending
03:12:32.140
Um, I did have like a couple, I guess like sugar daddies or whatever that would kind of
03:12:58.340
This wasn't that long ago, but like I just kind of got weird out because I think they kind
03:13:07.820
So I was like, no, but they would kind of just send me money when I asked or if I would like
03:13:16.360
Um, I actually met a lot of them at like clubs and stuff.
03:13:24.500
Uh, were you going to clubs before you turned 18?
03:13:38.800
Uh, so you had some sugar daddies and you just say, Hey, I need help with the rent or.
03:13:50.020
So what, what's the most of guys ever spent on you?
03:13:52.300
Um, I went on a trip with one of them to Vegas and he gave me, I think it was like 2,400.
03:14:07.960
And, um, on the trip at the end of it, he gave me like a white envelope and it was like
03:14:23.580
I think it was only like three times, but we, we don't talk anymore.
03:14:31.400
Like he was one of the guys when I just like asked, like said, I like needed something or
03:14:41.580
So you, he paid you maybe in total, like over 3000.
03:14:52.780
Um, the other ones weren't really sugar daddies, I guess.
03:15:07.820
Well, they were just like taking you out to dinner.
03:15:12.600
They weren't like straight up just like, here's cash.
03:15:16.860
But they would like, did any of them take you on any trips or anything or?
03:15:20.660
The only one was with the one guy who took me to Vegas.
03:15:23.620
And then he also got me and my friends, um, like a beach house for a weekend.
03:15:29.960
Was it an event or like Coachella or some shit?
03:15:35.140
Yo, where's all the fucking chicks that are doing this?
03:15:37.080
Some guys will literally like pay you just to text them.
03:15:55.400
My Strange Addiction who like is like obsessed with like his doll.
03:16:14.540
What public service announcement from fucking me?
03:16:31.760
No, but seriously, guys, stop fucking doing this shit.
03:16:46.160
Not, not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not shaming the girls.
03:16:56.840
I feel like a lot of these guys are, it is kind of.
03:17:01.500
I don't, I'm not really shaming really so much.
03:17:10.920
Now there are definitely, look, there are some women that are like predatory with it.
03:17:14.300
But like a lot of these dudes are like, they're, they're not getting, like they're seeking
03:17:21.500
So there are, look, some dudes are getting played and there's some predatory women, but
03:17:25.480
like a lot of dudes perfectly happy engaging in this shit.
03:17:35.240
For those of you who are enjoying the benefits, but okay.
03:17:48.920
Did I, oh, this were, I feel like I saw someone messaging me about wanting to hook me up with
03:17:54.060
Oh, I thought you were going to say hook up with you.
03:17:57.300
Did you email me, Alex, or did you, I'm trying to remember.
03:18:09.240
But mood wise, just, you know, I think the shows have been Madison maybe a little smoother.
03:18:17.860
But yeah, the guests we've had on, it's been pretty smooth.
03:18:20.980
And I've been trying to like reshift a little bit my, I don't know.
03:18:27.820
And there was just like a lot of shit going on like prior to the break.
03:18:34.580
It seemed like one thing after another with like the show.
03:18:54.820
The first person, the next person to send the TTS, you get to pick someone at this table.
03:19:03.460
It could be any, anybody here to eat the banana in a semi-erotic way.
03:19:12.640
The next person to send the TTS, just say, just pick a name and they have to, you are legally
03:19:18.800
bound to eat that banana in a romantic fashion.
03:19:25.780
You are going to have, we're going to get an EpiPen and fuck you up.
03:19:38.560
The next person who sends a TTS, somebody has to eat the banana.
03:19:50.500
Just like, have you had a sugar daddy situation?
03:20:00.420
By the way, just, I don't know if you were upset about the feet.
03:20:09.040
I thought maybe you might have been offended that I was soliciting your, like, I was trying
03:20:18.600
But I was letting you know that I don't want your feet.
03:20:39.940
And I was like, I will oblige you in your fantasy, whatever.
03:20:50.240
I was like, if that's what gets you off, we can.
03:20:56.140
I'm not going to knock your, I'm not going to knock your ink here.
03:21:10.160
So you're, are you, because you kind of like upped the ante here.
03:21:31.300
Well, I wouldn't pay for it, but I'm saying like, let's say hypothetically we were in a relationship.
03:21:51.400
It wouldn't, it wouldn't do anything for me, but like my philosophy is if it turns my partner on,
03:21:56.340
then as long as it's something I'm comfortable with, I would be like, oh, that's a little, uh.
03:22:02.960
Might be a little ticklish, you know what I'm saying?
03:22:06.180
Okay, whatever, that's pretty, it's pretty harmless.
03:22:08.860
Hypothetically speaking still, like if we were dating, would you suck on my toes?
03:22:27.780
I am a germaphobe and yeah, I wouldn't do that.
03:22:42.000
But you still got like dirt growing under your toenails and shit like that.
03:22:45.260
You do not have dirt growing under your toenails.
03:22:47.520
I think I would never have dirt growing under your toenails.
03:22:49.260
I'm, I'm of the philosophy if, you know, look, in that specific situation, no, I wouldn't
03:22:58.580
If you want to suck on mine, not, it's not my thing, but if it turns you on, if you're
03:23:02.840
going to be fucking soaking wet after it, I'm, let's fucking do it.
03:23:19.940
We're not going to do the fee thing, Doc Venablus, but, um, okay.
03:23:33.860
Wait, how did, do you guys peel your banana this way or this way?
03:23:35.920
You're supposed to peel the other way so you can hold the tip.
03:23:44.020
It's because the stem is for you to hold so you don't have to, like.
03:23:57.260
She's going to stare at her while she eats a banana.
03:24:25.900
No, I just don't really fuck with bananas like that.
03:24:38.880
The fuck were we talking, what were we talking about?
03:24:58.300
Listen, there's got to be a financial component here.
03:25:27.940
Like, hypothetically speaking, if we were dating, would you suck on my toes?
03:25:34.440
I don't even know why we're still on this toe sucking talk.
03:25:40.660
No, she said, would you, or, yeah, that's fine.
03:26:11.240
We were asking the panel about the sugar daddy thing.
03:26:26.640
Have you ever watched Barbie, the 12 Dancing Princesses?
03:26:38.980
We were asking, has there been a sugar daddy type situation?
03:26:47.120
I have some sugar daddies on OnlyFans, but nothing outside of that.
03:27:04.160
Just like a dude who you can hit up, be like, yo, I need to buy a new bag, or I don't know
03:27:09.340
I mean, yeah, I have like a lot of guys who I guess are, you know, pay pigs, but I also
03:27:16.660
like, you know, I talk to them, so it's like, I don't know, it's kind of like a relationship,
03:27:22.720
I guess, in that sense, but not like, you know.
03:27:27.960
So you have sugar daddies, but it's strictly online.
03:27:34.600
I've never had any, but I get DMs asking, like, people ask me to crush their head between
03:27:51.040
Yeah, you can, I guess you can stand on the chair.
03:28:23.360
So, you get dudes hitting you up to fucking just like.
03:28:28.080
And also, like, men will ask me to step on their face.
03:28:34.700
Like, men will ask me to put my feet on their face.
03:28:52.820
Ryan, are you down to get your head crushed right now?
03:29:04.980
Wait, do we have any other fruit in the fucking studio?
03:29:19.440
Yeah, just lifting and, like, barbells and stuff.
03:29:30.920
No, I'll just go home and I'll do it and I'll send it to you.
03:29:36.460
A new fruit crush video and then also an update on your celibacy.
03:29:45.440
I'll give you a commission of what I make when I flip it on Craigslist.
03:29:57.240
I have had, like, I still do to this day, but I have, like, a lot of men offered me to
03:30:05.860
I haven't, like, accepted or actually, I just, like, this, like, one guy in my past, he would
03:30:11.720
just pay me to talk to him, just, like, text him on Instagram and, like, he would send
03:30:20.300
Hey, that's pretty good, but it wasn't anything crazy.
03:30:33.420
But I've had, like, very weird requests as well.
03:30:56.380
One of my friends, one of my guy friends has a sugar mama.
03:31:05.960
I have a lot of sugar mamas hitting me up, too.
03:31:47.120
Like, you don't pay for dinners, do you, Maddie?
03:31:54.720
Well, like, it's like, I don't know, we're still in the kind of age where we, like, share
03:31:59.940
and, like, pay for each other's things, but, like, I like paying for dinners.
03:32:08.500
What's the most anyone here at the table has spent on a guy?
03:32:12.520
Like, you were simping for, you were simping on a dude or something?
03:32:16.700
That's a great question, because I know it ain't that much.
03:32:21.800
Here, let's start with you, then we'll go around the table here.
03:32:25.860
I spent $1,000 to bring him along on a trip that I won for a work trip.
03:32:34.040
Does that, because I feel like the simping stuff is more earlier on, isn't it?
03:32:38.460
He refused to come with me and pay for it, even though he could, and I said, I'll pay for you.
03:32:45.540
But he would not come unless I paid for him, and I always paid for dinner every single time.
03:32:58.820
Wait, Madison, what's the most you ever paid for a dude?
03:33:02.500
I just bought Frankie, or for Christmas, I bought him, like, a $700, like, Gucci chain.
03:33:10.200
Does this count, like, gifting somebody who you've been in a long-term relationship with?
03:33:15.860
Does this really, I don't know if this really falls under.
03:33:19.040
Like, I bought something expensive for a guy in a situation.
03:33:23.980
I want to know how much they spent on someone they were dating, and how much they spent on
03:33:28.040
a guy they weren't dating to, like, make them like them.
03:33:31.860
Like, you know, we've spent money on women for trips or dinners or whatever.
03:33:42.360
Do you not feel, like, emasculated to some extent if a woman's, like, regularly saying
03:33:53.060
It's kind of like, she's so into me that she's simping.
03:33:57.620
And it's refreshing because guys don't really get that.
03:34:02.460
So it's, like, guys wanting to be Little Spoon, but financial.
03:34:12.260
That's, like, a fun thing on, like, the City Boys Instagram where you, like, move the bill
03:34:20.560
Like, I would never feel emasculated by a girl paying for my stuff.
03:34:34.100
So your question was, like, how much have you spent on a guy that you've been dating
03:34:40.340
And then also, how much have you spent, like, should we say within the first early...
03:34:47.100
Have you ever spent money on a guy that you, like, tried to get to like you?
03:34:57.180
I, like, I didn't pay for him to get him to like me, but I got him a nice gift.
03:35:06.920
How long had you been seeing him or, like, talking?
03:35:15.760
We had been seeing each other for, like, three months.
03:35:19.980
But it wasn't, like, we weren't, like, you know, like, together, together.
03:36:09.980
I cleaned his car for him, and when he got back, it was good.
03:36:21.740
No, I took it through the wash, and then I detailed the entire car,
03:36:24.540
because I used to detail cars when I was in high school.
03:36:33.840
So, for the guy that I'm currently with, it was his birthday last week,
03:36:43.640
but I don't think I've ever spent money on a guy that I haven't been with,
03:36:50.020
but none of the guys that, like, I've ever gone out with have ever,
03:36:59.860
My longer relationship, I paid for most stuff, but that was high school,
03:37:02.740
so it was, like, $20, $30 at a time because I had a part-time job.
03:37:05.580
Otherwise, like, in the $100 range for, like, a gift or dinner,
03:37:13.140
the simp aspect has been, like, I crocheted one of my exes a pair of mittens,
03:37:17.280
and then we broke up, like, a couple weeks later, making dinner, cleaning,
03:37:22.440
a lot of cooking, but financially no more than, like,
03:37:38.840
so we went on a trip together with our friends,
03:37:42.500
and, like, we also got, like, you know, like a,
03:37:49.360
so I paid for his ticket on top of paying for my ticket as well.
03:37:54.020
Like, throughout the relationship, I feel like I paid for a lot of things,
03:37:57.100
and, yeah, my parents even sold him my old car for cheap, too.
03:38:11.720
So he couldn't use his car that he shared with his brother for one night
03:38:17.860
so I ended up paying an Uber that was, like, $150 each way
03:38:22.040
for him to come stay with me for a couple days.
03:38:30.560
So it's how much we spent on someone we weren't dating
03:38:37.180
I was talking to this guy for maybe, like, two months,
03:38:40.300
and for Valentine's Day, we got each other a gift.
03:38:45.620
and then my ex, I got us, like, a hotel for a couple days
03:38:53.780
That was probably, like, a little bit under $1,000, I think.
03:38:59.520
Has anybody here, I think some of you may have already
03:39:02.420
touched on this, has anybody here been flown out,
03:39:05.340
and we can just do show of hands, been flown out somewhere,
03:39:08.520
or, here, let's do been flown out somewhere by a guy.
03:39:37.920
We have a pre-show submission here from our girl, Riley.
03:39:49.720
I think that, in a lot of ways, men are better than women,
03:39:57.060
I mean, I just, like, I was really thinking about it,
03:40:00.740
because, like, you know, obviously my boyfriend is in a wheelchair right now,
03:40:04.600
I feel like a very typical job for a woman is to, like, be a nurse,
03:40:07.240
but I realized, like, I feel like I'd rather have a man as a nurse,
03:40:10.200
because I sure as hell, like, can't lift his big ass up, like,
03:40:24.340
and single fathers actually have a better turnout rate
03:40:30.980
80% of the children that are raised by single mothers
03:40:34.380
actually end up in jail or with some type of addiction
03:40:40.540
And, I mean, I just feel like it's, you know, like, evolutionary.
03:40:45.340
Like, I feel like it's just, like, men are stronger,
03:40:48.020
and they should just, like, you know, take on that role in general.
03:40:59.040
I feel like, well, the part where you're talking about
03:41:03.480
I do feel like they're kind of more protective, I think,
03:41:17.200
and men are capable of doing so many different things
03:41:25.020
I think men are amazing when they do what they're supposed to do,
03:41:28.460
and I think women are amazing when they do what they're supposed to do
03:41:31.720
because women are not men and men are not women.
03:41:37.980
Ladies, do you think that more women are corrupted by money and power today
03:41:50.980
Yes, I think that women are trying to compete in a very masculine world.
03:42:01.080
Women want to have equality, and we do have equality,
03:42:04.140
but now women are taking steps away from being what really make women women,
03:42:14.760
and there's some things, like what I was saying,
03:42:16.620
women are supposed to do things that men are not supposed to do.
03:42:21.760
We'll go around the table, get everyone's answer on this.
03:42:23.580
So do you think that more women are corrupted by money and power today
03:42:41.760
Like, are corrupted by money and power versus women 20 years ago?
03:42:50.040
Could this be related to, like, social media or OnlyFans corrupted by money?
03:43:03.360
Well, there's a lot of difference between 2003 and 2023 in terms of, I mean,
03:43:11.280
I think across all fronts, I think both men and women, I'm not a lady,
03:43:20.880
I think we're much more superficial than we were 20 years ago.
03:43:26.120
We're less socially connected, even though we have, like, social media and all this stuff.
03:43:35.460
I do think there's certainly more vanity, and people are definitely much more superficial.
03:43:43.760
I was just going to say, I kind of get the question.
03:43:45.840
I think that women are more corrupted by money and power than 20 years ago,
03:43:49.940
because now I think it's, like, women don't appreciate money as much
03:43:58.520
If that was, like, the question I was, I don't know, that was my interpretation.
03:44:04.820
Maybe if it's a little hard for you to, does anyone want to weigh in on this,
03:44:08.580
or are you having some difficulty parsing exactly what the question is?
03:44:12.280
I mean, I feel like men might see women as more corrupted by money and power nowadays
03:44:17.860
than 20 years ago, because, you know, 20 years ago there wasn't an option to, like, do OnlyFans.
03:44:25.840
But it's, like, you can just put your money, I mean, your body out there for money and power, technically,
03:44:31.880
because I feel like you do gain a following when you do have OnlyFans
03:44:35.780
because you are putting your body out there and you do gain people who want to follow you.
03:44:40.020
And just, you know, obviously that wasn't an option before,
03:44:42.680
so I think, you know, maybe men would see women as more corrupted by, you know,
03:44:47.560
money and power now because of social media, OnlyFans,
03:44:50.860
and the ability to just easily put your body online like that.
03:44:58.300
I also feel like I can't answer this question because I wasn't even born 20 years ago.
03:45:21.240
When I say corrupted, I mean women who openly disregard men in general.
03:45:26.800
Mean women corrupted, I mean women who openly disregard men in general.
03:45:33.280
Oh, so do you mean like their women are less focused on relationships and more focused on building a career?
03:45:59.140
Well, maybe I can sort of transform this question a little bit.
03:46:03.480
Do you think that men care about a woman's money?
03:46:09.940
Like, do you think it makes a woman more attractive if she's like a boss babe and like is doing really well financially?
03:46:15.400
Do you think, generally speaking, like men find that?
03:46:37.040
Are men that makes a lot of money is a boss bitch or one that doesn't and wants to just do nothing?
03:46:48.400
Like, do they prefer someone who has money over someone who doesn't?
03:46:51.380
Do you think a woman's success makes her more attractive to a man?
03:46:56.360
I think it depends on the man and what they're looking for in a woman.
03:47:00.840
But I think for sure when a woman can obviously take care of herself and the people around her, it's attractive to a high value man.
03:47:10.260
I, like, disagree because there is a statistic that, you know, the biggest predictor of divorce is if the woman makes more money than the man.
03:47:21.380
So I feel like it could almost intimidate the man.
03:47:26.220
When a woman is making a lot of money and has that power, they don't need to rely on a man.
03:47:35.980
I agree with you when I when you say success, I think it I I 100 percent agree with you.
03:47:42.940
But I think when I view success, I mean, like, it's not about money.
03:47:47.760
It means like she's driven and she's going after the dreams and the goals that she has, whether it be taking care of a family, whether it be being a journalist or anything, whatever they want to be.
03:47:58.180
And it depends on what the man is wanting in success for a woman.
03:48:05.680
I feel like people are just drawn to, like, motivated people.
03:48:08.960
And if you're successful, obviously you're, like, motivated and you care about stuff.
03:48:13.460
Not to be Freudian, but what I've noticed is people, men and women, tend to be very strongly influenced by what their parental figures were like.
03:48:26.920
And they either go for something similar or they go for the opposite.
03:48:30.420
And I would guess I haven't looked at the statistics, statistics I've taken, like, psych of gender and whatnot.
03:48:37.060
But if there are more men who have successful women, successful mothers these days due to, like, women being able to have more jobs, then they would be raised wanting a woman who is successful and driven.
03:48:51.740
So, like, in my experience, I'm very driven and whatnot.
03:48:54.940
The men I've dated also have very successful mothers.
03:48:57.540
But if the generation prior didn't grow up with that, then they maybe wouldn't be looking for it.
03:49:04.160
I mean, I suppose there's something to be said for parental role models.
03:49:08.900
But I'm kind of more looking at it from perhaps a more innate evolutionary biological level.
03:49:31.720
I think that's a big misconception that most girls don't understand about guys' preferences, which is a guy doesn't care at all how much money you make.
03:49:41.680
Or even if you're driven, necessarily, as long as you're upkeep and you're a normal, healthy, functioning adult.
03:49:52.240
Like, there was this girl at this bagel shop I would go to, and she was like, you know, obviously, work makes little to no money.
03:50:15.780
Like, I would want a girl who knows what she's doing.
03:50:18.740
But I'll find myself even speaking to girls who are not smart, but I don't even care.
03:50:25.000
Like, I care that they have EQ, but not necessarily IQ.
03:50:29.160
I almost like knowing more than the girl so I can be telling her how the way of the world.
03:50:35.720
And she's like, I never even knew that until you told me.
03:50:38.680
I almost enjoy that as opposed to a girl that's super brainiac that knows everything and makes money.
03:50:44.560
I would almost prefer if she worked at Wendy's and didn't know much.
03:50:49.260
That way I could, I don't know, I would like that.
03:51:00.800
Lily is hand down the cutest guest you've had since Pilot Girl.
03:51:04.780
If you're ever in Texas, I'd happily take you on a gym date.
03:51:29.200
You're gonna have to be, and you have to wait until marriage, brother.
03:51:42.800
I don't think, yeah, for me, for a girl, her money is kind of like irrelevant.
03:51:48.380
It perhaps might be relevant if she's actually prepared to, like, simp, but, like, most chicks
03:51:55.800
who make money, like, are not really, men, women do not share their resources with men
03:52:03.380
the same way that men share their resources with women.
03:52:07.540
So, like, there's no, men don't reap any benefit in, like, by dating a successful woman
03:52:14.860
the same way that a woman might reap a benefit by being with a successful man.
03:52:20.120
Because women really don't, like, I'm not saying some women do, but generally speaking, I'd say
03:52:25.740
most women are not super, like, down to really simp for dudes or share their resources with
03:52:32.120
And even successful women, you'll hear from them, they still want the guy to pay for the
03:52:36.520
They'll be offended if the guy won't pay for the first date.
03:52:39.240
So, there's, just even on that financial level, men don't benefit from a woman's success
03:52:48.980
So, it's like, why would it be something that we find attractive?
03:52:52.800
And then just on a biological evolutionary level, like, men, you know, we traditionally,
03:52:59.080
So, it's kind of like, we don't look to women to provide or protect for us.
03:53:10.200
One framework that I think would contribute to this is the idea that men are valued, or
03:53:16.580
a man's social standing is much more determined by money, whereas women by beauty.
03:53:22.160
So, if you try to swap it, then it just becomes a little bit, oh, I guess if she'll pay for
03:53:26.840
stuff, just like if you have a really attractive man, but he's broke, it's like, well, I guess
03:53:32.160
It's a lot more exciting to look at, like, a normal guy will benefit more from having
03:53:38.140
a beautiful woman by his side than just a rich woman.
03:53:42.500
And an average woman would probably enjoy having a wealthy, meaty, like, average, wealthy man
03:53:59.300
Because, for example, if you're in college, like, you're not, I don't think you're particularly,
03:54:05.120
I don't think you're super preoccupied with the money a guy makes.
03:54:10.900
Like, because if you're in college, everybody's kind of...
03:54:13.340
Most people don't have money, so, but broke, hot dude, or rich, ugly dude?
03:54:48.460
It's just that, like, I'm trying to be really picky with my next relationship, because, like,
03:54:54.000
the next guy, I think, is, like, the guy that I want to, like, actually marry.
03:54:58.140
So, it's, like, I don't think I want to settle for, like, a mid to...
03:55:05.380
So, like, I don't know if I want to settle for, like, a mid to ugly rich guy or, like,
03:55:13.720
And if I have to wait, like, three, four years for that, that's fine.
03:55:31.680
I'm just, like, have you made that kind of content?
03:55:50.060
I mean, do you have any concerns that because you've done, well, I mean, BG content, but,
03:55:54.020
like, really any sort of adult content, do you have any concerns that, you know, that's
03:56:00.260
Well, I mean, actually, I feel like my dating life has been, like, better ever since I made
03:56:12.080
I usually only talk to guys if they're, like, okay with me having an OnlyFans, and I'm sure
03:56:16.620
guys that talk to me know that I have an OnlyFans, so they're willingly putting themselves
03:56:24.860
I think, like, nowadays, a lot more guys are, like, or at least the guys that I talk to
03:56:28.560
are okay at the fact that I do have an OnlyFans.
03:56:32.780
Part of me, I've heard from a lot of girls on this.
03:56:36.400
I think on one hand, and maybe, Ryan, you can weigh in on this, I think some guys cope.
03:56:42.820
They're like, oh, if she does OnlyFans, like, she's done for.
03:56:47.660
I think part of that, I think it is a bit of cope from men who are, like,
03:56:54.020
but I do think there are a decent proportion of men, also, that would not take seriously
03:57:03.360
for a long-term relationship or marriage or to have children with someone who's done
03:57:17.720
Yeah, I think, yeah, the point of, if you have OnlyFans, you're never going to find
03:57:23.740
Men are so desperate to get their slimy fingers on anything.
03:57:31.420
I think it's a bit of cope to be, like, they're never going to...
03:57:33.820
There's a lot of simps out there, probably dudes that, like, sub to your OnlyFans that
03:57:38.420
probably jump at the fucking chance to be in a relationship.
03:57:41.860
It's not clear to me if these girls would want to date a customer.
03:57:46.040
But I think you're immediately, like, omitting, let's say, a whole population of guys that
03:57:54.520
you could have dated previously by having an OF.
03:57:58.480
So if your dating pool is all the guys, when you have an OF, that takes out, I don't know
03:58:09.760
But you'll never know what you're missing out on because they'll simply be gone, and
03:58:14.320
you'll simply be with your dating pool that will date you.
03:58:17.240
So it's kind of, like, up to your own personal preference if you're willing to make that risk.
03:58:22.380
Like, am I willing to cut out half my potential partners?
03:58:31.560
That there's certainly going to be, I think, like with anything...
03:58:35.540
Well, maybe not like with anything because I think there's...
03:58:40.440
I'm not trying to be offensive to anybody, but there is, to some degree, a stigma associated
03:58:46.320
I'm not trying to make any judgments about any of the girls on the panel here.
03:58:48.900
I'm sure you all agree, though, that there is a stigma.
03:58:52.000
Whether it's deserved or not, whatever your stance on it may be, there is, to some degree,
03:58:57.740
So there is a subset of men, a group of men, a cohort of men that are just flat out not
03:59:03.660
going to want to date a girl who does OnlyFans or who's done porn.
03:59:11.440
It could be 10%, 20%, 50%, who knows, maybe 50%.
03:59:17.800
I mean, that's still a large pool of men, you know, but...
03:59:23.380
And then girls also have to understand that men will put girls in categories like, this
03:59:28.840
girl is a recreational use only type of girl, and then this one is a, I'm really trying to
04:00:04.540
Some girls will disqualify themselves and not even know it by doing certain things.
04:00:15.380
Me, personally, I wouldn't do it, because, you know, if I'm going to actually marry a girl
04:00:19.980
and take her seriously, I wouldn't bring that type of girl to my parents and my mother
04:00:25.440
and father, because I wouldn't be able to sleep with myself.
04:00:31.900
For the of girls, if you meet the man you want to marry, but he told you no OnlyFans,
04:00:37.940
If he can, like, provide for me, then yes, I would delete it.
04:00:52.980
Like, if man's had the money to, like, provide for me and, like, I'll be, like, your housewife,
04:01:01.960
That's, like, not, like, my end goal, you know what I mean?
04:01:05.960
So, if I met the man of my dreams and he was, like, delete your OnlyFans
04:01:12.360
To, you know, supplement me and him, then yeah.
04:01:14.900
How much money would a guy need to make for that to be the case?
04:01:20.060
I mean, I never really put deep thought into it, but I don't know.
04:01:31.020
Like, what kind of lifestyle do you want to live, you know?
04:01:33.080
I don't really care that much about having a very luxurious lifestyle.
04:01:42.380
I'd be pretty happy if I was just, like, a housewife.
04:01:45.260
Like, you know, like, have kids, like, stay at home, like, clean, cook, blah, blah, blah.
04:02:02.820
Because you said you wanted a man to make at least, like, the same as you or a little more, right?
04:02:09.440
But, like, that's, like, same as me, but, like, that's, like, if we were still both making income together.
04:02:15.680
So, that's, like, double, like, you know, dual income.
04:02:18.000
But, like, I feel like he would definitely have to make, like, a lot more if he just wanted me to quit my job, you know?
04:02:25.980
Because, like, I want to live comfortably, too.
04:02:29.340
Like, I don't know how much you make, but let's assume there is a guy that makes more than that.
04:02:35.720
Do you think he would choose you or a girl who didn't have an OF if he had the option?
04:02:44.540
To kind of, I guess, buy you in a way, like, a guy to date you is going to have to have money, right?
04:02:53.560
So, it's, like, if a guy has that much money, don't you think he would find a girl who didn't do what you do?
04:03:01.320
I mean, like, maybe, but, like, his question is, like, if I would delete my OnlyFans if the guy wanted me to.
04:03:10.160
I'm just thinking, like, if I'm a multi-multi-millionaire, I would probably just pick the girl that doesn't have one, so I don't even have to worry about asking.
04:03:24.500
I mean, I'm friends with plenty of prong people and stuff.
04:03:44.080
Would you say, do you make half a million dollars a year?
04:03:49.740
Well, I just started making, like, a lot of income.
04:03:52.820
So, I don't really know how to answer that yet.
04:04:00.640
If the current income you're making now continued for another year, would you be making over half a million dollars?
04:04:14.240
I know, but, like, I don't feel comfortable answering that.
04:04:20.080
No, I'm just curious, like, just to get a sense of how much the guy would have to earn to match your level.
04:04:28.500
Because if you're making, like, 50K a year on OnlyFans, there's, like, a decent amount of...
04:04:33.520
I think the average income for men is, like, $45,000 a year or something.
04:04:39.380
So, there's, like, a decent amount of men that are close to your income range.
04:04:48.640
Like, the scale that you can make money, it's insane.
04:04:52.660
So, like, you can make $100,000 in a month doing content, doing OnlyFans.
04:04:57.740
So, I'm just, like, trying to get a sense because there's some chicks on OnlyFans who make six figures a month.
04:05:04.640
In terms of income, like, only 1%, I think, less than 1% of men are making that much money.
04:05:12.780
So, at that point, you're after, like, a top 1% man when it comes to income.
04:05:19.800
I think if men can set the boundary openly that they wouldn't date someone with an OF,
04:05:24.600
then the OF creators can set the boundary of saying that they don't want to share how much they make.
04:05:42.140
No, yeah, if you don't want to share, that's totally fine.
04:05:56.720
Like, just the question for, like, if you would stop OF.
04:05:59.640
Yeah, and do you want to answer this since you do OF?
04:06:02.260
Yeah, so, I mean, personally, I really like what I do.
04:06:06.040
I have a lot of fun doing it, and I only post what I want to post.
04:06:09.500
And I feel like if I was going to be marrying a guy that, you know, he would...
04:06:15.740
We would have probably already crossed that bridge, and he would probably be okay with it.
04:06:19.740
Because I don't think I would be with somebody who wouldn't be okay with something that I like to do
04:06:38.660
But, like, I mean, do you enjoy it because of the money you make?
04:06:46.320
Because it's, like, I get to, like, take pictures and look pretty, you know?
04:06:56.280
Ladies, why do you think you'd make a good co-host for the Whatever Podcast?
04:07:00.040
I mean, I didn't know that was on the table, but.
04:07:18.240
You're going to have to move to Santa Barbara, and then we're going to put you, like,
04:07:22.140
half the time you're not, you're going to be in the corner.
04:07:29.540
But you're going to be on the other side, so Madison's on this side, and then you're
04:07:40.600
You just sit there and make weird faces, like she's been doing, so.
04:07:50.460
You're really impacting the next generation of people, so.
04:07:57.240
I think we're all caught up on the super chats.
04:07:59.540
So, before we wrap up here, I'd like to give everyone, like, one last opportunity.
04:08:11.500
If there's anything dating related any of you would like to get off your chest, maybe you
04:08:18.700
have a hot take, maybe you have a, something that's frustrating you about dating, I'd like
04:08:34.720
Or, like, something dating related you want to get off your chest, men are pissing you
04:08:41.420
Maybe there's something frustrating about dating.
04:08:43.820
Well, we were actually talking about this in the car.
04:08:46.400
How do you guys, do you guys think that guys and girls can just be friends?
04:08:54.680
Okay, because, like, I have, like, a guy best friend and I don't think we would ever
04:08:59.940
And then, like, I know, like, when you're dating a guy and he has, like, a girl best friend,
04:09:07.140
So, do you, who thinks, like, who thinks they could just be friends?
04:09:12.220
Like, it could be, I think it could be true, like, you're truly just friends, but it's
04:09:15.500
definitely not going to be good for your relationship to have a best friend like that.
04:09:21.380
I think it depends on the boundaries that you set with the friend that's the opposite
04:09:27.100
Like, I have a best friend who is my, he's one of my best friends in the entire world.
04:09:36.020
We have completely different political, religious, and moral views, and it would never work, and
04:09:41.580
we do not view each other in any way other than platonic.
04:09:44.740
And so, I don't think I would get in the way of his partner, and he would never get in
04:09:49.320
the way of my partner, because I'm not getting any emotional stability from him.
04:09:56.060
Do you think your appearance has any play into it?
04:09:59.520
Like, if you were, let's say, 550 pounds and had burns all over your face, is he still going
04:10:21.340
You need to have adult limits and think about the repercussions of your actions.
04:10:25.940
Imagine having a little kid affecting your man's image, coming across any circumstances.
04:10:38.780
I mean, I have thought of the repercussions of my actions.
04:10:44.400
Again, I only post what I want to post, and I am comfortable with what I've posted up until
04:10:49.080
this point, and I don't think that it would affect my life in the future with, you know,
04:11:02.340
I mean, do you have any concerns about bullying for, like, perhaps the kid might get bullied
04:11:07.940
I don't even know if, like, OnlyFans is going to be a thing, like, when I'm having kids,
04:11:12.460
I feel like it might be something bigger, if anything.
04:11:36.180
Hey, fucking Maximilian, I just saw your mom getting three-way.
04:11:42.400
Well, I feel like everyone likes having a hot mom, no?
04:11:47.680
It comes to an extent where it's, like, you, your friends actually, like, see your hot
04:11:58.300
I feel like if I saw my mom naked on a site, I'd be, like, really traumatized.
04:12:16.120
Look, she's extremely wealthy and successful financially, but her...
04:12:38.440
If your man will be into politics or business, there will be a witch hunt if you do of.
04:12:43.500
If your kid is vulnerable, everyone will jump on it.
04:12:50.980
Yo, Victor, thank you very much for your TTS, man.
04:12:56.880
Like, if your boyfriend or husband or whatever, he...
04:13:02.960
There are certain careers maybe where it doesn't matter, but if, like...
04:13:06.680
If he goes to, like, an important business function or he's a politician, like, I don't
04:13:13.540
Like, a major politician, it would probably impact his electability, for example, if his
04:13:29.340
Whether that's right or wrong, you know, we can have a conversation, but, like, practically
04:13:33.720
speaking, I do think it might have a negative impact on, like, if you're trying to run for
04:13:40.120
office or, you know, have some business function.
04:13:43.820
And, like, a few episodes ago, we did bring up, like, an article about, like, a kid whose
04:14:02.320
Oh, I was just saying, because we were talking about that, but...
04:14:05.820
Okay, we were going around the table, I'm trying to recall, we were...
04:14:17.300
The problem for the child is that your content may circulate throughout the school past the
04:14:25.920
It's kind of crazy, like, in 20 years, how many kids' parents, like, nudes are just going
04:14:32.360
But, like, if you think about how many people do OnlyFans and porn, like, there's going
04:14:38.280
Maybe that could be something the friends can bond about.
04:14:50.760
I don't know what the fuck they're going to be comparing about, but good times.
04:14:57.360
Wow, the TTS people are really going in on the...
04:15:25.600
Our friendship and our, like, our relationship is based off of things that have...
04:15:31.760
Our trauma, and we've helped each other through it.
04:15:33.940
So, I don't think that what I look like would ever have to do with what he went through and
04:15:39.580
what I helped him get through and what he's helped me get through.
04:15:42.760
I think looks can definitely add to it, though.
04:15:45.100
I would say, like, if you have, like, a very attractive boy best friend...
04:15:48.620
It would be a law-off thing for your significant other because it's, like, oh, you're best
04:15:57.020
And I do also agree that men and women cannot just be friends.
04:16:02.240
Eventually, one or the other is going to have an attraction, whether it's physical, mental,
04:16:08.920
There's just no way to stop that, especially if they're both straight.
04:16:12.780
I think women can be friends with men, but I don't know if men...
04:16:24.140
Well, first off, let's just say, who thinks men and women can genuinely be friends?
04:16:31.620
And you were saying you have, like, a really close male friend, correct?
04:16:39.120
Can you pull up your phone, pull out your phone right now, text him, and be like...
04:16:44.040
We can't do a call just because California wiretapping laws.
04:16:53.940
So, I want you to text him, and it has to be...
04:16:57.140
Does he know you're on the show because you guys are best friends?
04:17:06.460
Okay, I want you to text every single one of them.
04:17:11.260
All these friendships are going to be burned to the ground.
04:17:13.580
Yeah, the girl, they're all going to be like, yes, please.
04:17:16.300
What's, like, something, like, that doesn't make it seem like it's an obvious, like...
04:17:23.000
You can say, like, hey, there's something on my mind and heart.
04:17:42.240
Instead of going for a hookup, what about it's something more like, hey, listen, like,
04:17:50.580
I have something on my heart that I've been wanting to tell you.
04:17:52.500
But, like, a confession of, like, hey, listen...
04:18:03.700
There's plenty of men out there who can be friends with.
04:18:13.500
What should the verbatim message be that she's going to send to seven of your male friends?
04:19:03.960
I think what she just said, hey, I'm home alone tonight.
04:19:07.480
But that could still be interpreted as, like, kind of like...
04:19:20.220
You won't, like, say, like, I'm home alone tonight.
04:19:23.040
I do that with my friends all the time, though.
04:19:53.080
And then we're going to see what the responses are.
04:19:54.560
And if you want to say you were joking, it's on camera.
04:20:16.240
Okay, this guy's on a trip, so I'm going to say...
04:20:20.820
When you get back, when I cuddle over a kettle, I'm like...
04:20:48.000
But like, he's watching, so like, what's his name?
04:21:48.980
Low-key, I feel like these other guys might be...
04:22:38.700
Wait, can you make that facial expression again?
04:22:42.060
I think we missed it, but yeah, she made that facial expression.
04:23:34.640
Okay, the other guy said the 23rd, because I said, when do you get back?
04:23:41.580
Any other girls here at the table want to give this one a crack?
04:23:53.420
Are you down to text one of your male friends and see if they're...
04:23:59.480
Will you text a male friend and see if he's down DTF?
04:24:02.500
Let me make sure he's not watching and see if he's down to it.
04:24:07.620
No, I want to see, because I feel like at least one lady friend would say yeah.
04:24:16.440
I'm friendly, but I don't have any female friends.
04:24:23.220
Yeah, they're just friendly or business relationship.
04:24:35.220
The only person that's farted on his body was you.
04:24:45.260
Wait, Nick, have you pulled up these supers that are pending?
04:25:18.380
I don't even know if he's going to look behind.
04:25:23.340
You think it's tough having dudes when you have a poof?
04:25:26.820
What are you doing to that microphone, Madison?
04:25:38.140
I feel like that'd be one thing I'd be scared of.
04:25:59.160
Okay, we'll check back in on that a little bit.
04:26:02.480
Let's keep it moving so we can try to wrap up here pretty soon.
04:26:07.560
Do you have anything dating related that you'd like to get off your chest?
04:26:17.160
Like one of my exes, he used to get turned on whenever I cried.
04:26:30.160
Oh, like you're like a little baby turns me on.
04:26:40.440
And then he would take my hand, put it on his dick.
04:26:53.700
You started crying and then you started getting like horny too kind of?
04:26:59.780
I mean, I kind of laughed at it because he like told me beforehand like...
04:27:03.900
I think like a month or two until I was dating, he was like, yeah, like I don't know.
04:27:14.360
I told him, I was like, you know, is that why you don't...
04:27:19.500
You're not really like empathetic with me when I cry?
04:27:22.800
Because like he wasn't really that good with comforting me either.
04:27:54.560
When you cried, like, because some people will cry about small things or anything.
04:28:00.620
Like, would you actually be crying over some heavy shit?
04:28:03.260
And he'd like, oh, my God, my fucking pet fish just died.
04:28:07.760
And he's like, bro, I'm sorry about your fish, but let's fuck.
04:28:11.540
The one time that I do remember crying and he told me that he was hard.
04:28:16.440
It was when I was, like, going away for, like, a little while and I wasn't going to see him.
04:28:30.080
No, but, like, I would say I would cry over something stupid.
04:28:33.820
Like, I'm getting, like, really frustrated over something and I cry about it.
04:28:40.320
I can't really think of an example because I like to blank out my trauma.
04:29:16.620
Like, you're crying and you're like, bro, he's at full mass.
04:29:23.500
Because, like, I feel like it's kind of hard to, like, cry and have sex at the same time.
04:30:45.340
If your girlfriend's sick and she's coughing, bro.
04:31:12.460
No, it's not like I'm seeking out chicks with fucking.
04:31:20.920
Although, like, one time I did, like, Google, like.
04:32:13.300
Like, people would just hang out with sick people.
04:32:58.120
Yeah, and then you started talking about the coughing.
04:33:15.760
This is by far the nicest panel you've had a long time.
04:33:26.060
And I suddenly have an urge to have a watermelon crushed on my skull smile.
04:33:33.200
He wants you to stand above him while he's laying on the ground with a skull.
04:33:59.220
It was more like one rage quit and then the friend tagged along.
04:34:21.480
Like, but every single time, like you're crying.
04:34:27.760
He didn't tell me every single time that I was crying that he was turned on.
04:34:34.880
Yeah, but there were some physical indicators like the bulge in his pants, right?
04:34:39.740
I mean, like, you know, when I'm crying, it's not like I'm looking down at the bulge of his pants.
04:34:43.760
Like I'm kind of more concerned about the reason why I'm crying, right?
04:34:54.580
Like in the back of my head, I'm like, I'm bawling my eyes out.
04:35:03.820
That's really selfish of him because here you are.
04:35:08.420
Here you are like in a vulnerable state and you're upset about something.
04:35:16.260
And in the back of your head, you're like, bro, his pythons erect.
04:35:23.140
And it just must have really fucked with you because in the back of your head, he's like, you're probably thinking he's not in the right state of mind to really be there for me.
04:35:36.620
Like when you were crying, like what would he do?
04:35:41.360
I mean, like he would just say like, I'm sorry.
04:35:43.300
But like in general, he wasn't really like a very emotional person.
04:35:48.620
He would hug you or like when you just stand there and stare at him and cry?
04:36:02.480
If a girl's crying, whatever that is, I get that.
04:36:26.960
Well, it's literally my life as a dating coach to talk about every day.
04:36:32.080
But I would say as a little final note vibe, I think men and women alike overcomplicate
04:36:40.260
dating and overconsume info about dating and that in order to date, you need to go on dates.
04:36:47.120
In order to get into a relationship, you need to carry yourself as if you want to actually
04:36:54.720
And also, I have a friend who is waiting for me.
04:36:58.240
So, I have to leave because she has nowhere else to go without me driving her back home.
04:37:03.860
Does she want to come on the podcast real quick?
04:37:13.560
If we can wrap it up quick because it's almost midnight.
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If we don't wrap within five minutes, feel free to excuse yourself.
04:37:26.640
I guess I just think that women shouldn't, they should be able to have an option to have
04:37:32.540
a form of birth control but not oral birth control because it's like anything that has
04:37:38.460
to do with like hormonal birth control, I don't think they should be able to have it because
04:37:42.380
it actually really affects, you know, their choice in mate.
04:37:46.240
There was an experiment called the Sweaty T-Shirt Study and basically a bunch of men were not
04:37:54.020
They were forced to run on a treadmill for a certain amount of time.
04:37:57.340
Their, you know, shirts were taken, put in bags and there was a control group of women
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and a woman, a group of women that were on birth control and they had to rate the smell
04:38:07.920
of these T-shirts based off of levels of attractiveness.
04:38:11.500
And basically what they found is that the women who were in the control group, the ones
04:38:15.780
who weren't on birth control, they chose men with opposite immune system profiles, which
04:38:21.900
basically gave their children a better chance at, you know, just being more adept and having
04:38:27.600
a better immune system and ability to like fight off diseases and stuff like that.
04:38:31.640
But the women who were on birth control, it was completely randomized or it was just the
04:38:38.520
opposite of what would be beneficial for their own immune system profile and, you know, genetic
04:38:45.500
I mean, I definitely heard that apparently women who are on birth control are, they find
04:38:51.460
feminine characteristics like more attractive in men.
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Whereas if they're not on birth control, they're more attracted to like more, more masculine
04:39:01.080
And something I heard related to that is a woman who is on birth control, met a guy.
04:39:07.400
If they get off birth control, they can lose attraction for their partner.
04:39:14.140
Like say you're on birth control, you're dating a guy, you get off birth control and
04:39:18.220
then you actually like, you could lose attraction for the guy.
04:39:27.420
I was, I was on birth control for a bit and then I was in a relationship with someone
04:39:32.600
for three and a half years and two years into the relationship, I got off the birth control
04:39:36.900
and that whole year of being off of it, I woke up realizing, oh my God, this is not the
04:39:43.080
person I thought I was dating and I wasn't really attracted to him physically at all.
04:39:50.680
Was he one of the guys who was smaller than you?
04:39:58.020
I realized he wasn't fulfilling the needs that I needed as a woman because he wasn't
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I'm just like some days like I'm not the best at remembering, you know.
04:40:25.700
But I also do like pregnancy tests every month, you know, just to be safe.
04:40:36.260
Anything dating you want to get off your chest?
04:40:39.900
I guess as a Christ-fearing woman, it's really hard to find Christ-fearing men in this world
04:40:45.480
because everything is so immediate and instant.
04:40:48.140
And so it's hard to find men and women, honestly, as friends who have self-control.
04:41:05.980
I have a bit of a pessimistic view of dating in general.
04:41:10.400
Like, and even you being like a match or what, like a dating coach.
04:41:18.780
Those apps aren't meant to even help people get on dates.
04:41:22.020
Like they're meant to keep you on there because if two people meet and have a successful relationship,
04:41:29.680
So they're incentivized to keep your lonely ass on there.
04:41:35.020
And they strategically will put ugly ones in there and then put a cute one in there knowing that, oh.
04:41:43.040
Hinge is a bit better about it, but you need to be very intentional to like actually take advantage of their whole design to be deleted thing.
04:41:49.180
And I just think about how, yeah, back in the olden days, like just dating was simpler.
04:41:58.040
There was no, like all the girls here have gotten a hundred times more like attention than I get.
04:42:07.840
So it's like, how does a normal guy even compete in this dating market?
04:42:13.660
Like if a regular girl is getting 50 to 100 DMs, approaches, whatever, how do you even stand a chance?
04:42:21.340
So I feel really bad for the majority of men who don't have a lot of success in a dating pool.
04:42:30.900
I feel like you just have to level up the best you can appearance wise, financial wise, everything.
04:42:41.520
I agree and disagree because none of the messages that I ever receive, I ever respond to.
04:42:47.900
I would only, as a, for myself, I would only pursue a man who is pursuing me in person.
04:42:55.560
And making an effort, like appearance wise, shows me that he has ambition, etc.
04:43:23.780
I think girls will, most girls will answer certain DMs from certain guys.
04:43:28.320
But it's just like, how do you compete with, I know like y'all are getting
04:43:33.000
blue checks and athletes and like some really top tier guys.
04:43:36.720
How does a regular dude even get close to that?
04:43:43.060
And then, and then they end up, hey, can I pay a two grand to kick me in the nuts?
04:43:49.420
Like I've done thorough just like checks to make sure it's from actual studies.
04:43:53.360
And then asking men I know, asking my like ex when we were still together, men are not
04:43:59.140
Whereas every girl I know, if she isn't celibate, she has had sex whenever she wants to.
04:44:04.600
And it is a serious topic that I considered sending beforehand.
04:44:21.880
And I'm like, damn, I think men need the most help now more than ever.
04:44:37.580
I mean, you hear the stories of kick me and spit on me and I'll pay you a hundred bucks just
04:44:46.380
I don't know if y'all could even fathom having to pay someone a hundred dollars just to speak
04:44:54.320
And like, that's why I like to try to, I don't know, root for guys.
04:45:07.260
And there's a lot of very nice, good guys who just get overwhelmed from what I've observed
04:45:15.520
Like, fresh and fit, which I never heard of until yesterday.
04:45:20.020
And that's why I think it's important for, you know, panels like this, people showing
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If you're only getting one match a week, that's okay.
04:45:28.700
Because, like I mentioned earlier, it just takes one person if you want to be in a relationship
04:45:34.040
And I know you have to go, but I did have one question for you.
04:45:36.380
Sorry to like string this on a little longer, Brian.
04:45:40.060
Have you ever told your male clients to be an asshole to girls?
04:45:48.120
What typically happens, though, is they are scared of being seen as predatory or douchey.
04:45:55.920
So what I have done for most of them, actually, is say, like, you don't need to ask her five
04:46:02.540
questions in a row to try to seem like you're interested.
04:46:12.900
Yeah, I attract very nice clients who feel awkward.
04:46:17.680
The most I've done is say, try to be a little bit more cool and maybe don't text her back
04:46:23.680
Like, don't be desperate, but don't be a douche.
04:46:27.960
It happens a lot where women aren't attracted to nice men.
04:46:45.140
Like, no, like, um, kind of like when guys kind of don't give you as much attention and
04:46:52.140
like stuff like that, it kind of makes me want to like chase them.
04:47:00.680
Like you probably aren't going to find a husband if you're dating like that.
04:47:06.680
Like if, um, if guys don't do that, that's not like a break point for me.
04:47:12.160
If he's simping after you, you probably won't take him seriously.
04:47:22.060
I think it's kind of, I feel like a lot of people do that.
04:47:28.460
I like when my man is respectful and not an asshole.
04:47:33.220
Like I just know growing up, I was the, I was a nice guy and never got anything.
04:47:38.660
And then even me and my guy friends would be like, I said this to this girl and she loved it.
04:47:43.120
And I'm like, why do they like being mistreated or whatever?
04:47:48.000
I don't want to be a villain, but I got turned into a villain.
04:47:53.940
I think that depends on the women that you want to be with.
04:47:59.140
So you're saying the women that I'm speaking to specifically are the ones that are.
04:48:05.140
You attract what you put out or you attract the inverse of it.
04:48:09.180
So like my most long-term client, he used to just go on dates with the strangest woman.
04:48:14.040
Like one of them, she was like, yeah, I like to decapitate dead animals.
04:48:30.160
He was letting himself be stepped on by letting her.
04:48:38.820
That's some desperate or traumatized or hurt woman, then you just aren't selecting who
04:48:45.500
Like I'm not a place to be dating someone for the rest of my life.
04:48:51.940
Therefore, the dudes who are carrying themselves in such a way that they want that type of
04:48:56.360
commitment should not be trying to talk to me because when I say, oh, yeah, I'm flying
04:49:07.600
And if you feel like you have to be a douche to get them to like you, maybe don't go for
04:49:13.220
Well, I would say I completely understand your viewpoint.
04:49:15.980
I didn't attract any like being nice, attracted nobody being not nice attracts people like
04:49:28.060
So it's like but I'm just speaking from a busy love life or very like I think it's very fair
04:49:34.740
to want to just go on a bunch of dates, get a bunch of action.
04:49:38.040
And if being not douchey, but a little bit less attentive, I think that's super valid.
04:49:43.600
And like I have not for very long, but I've worked with some men who want just casual
04:49:48.240
dating and then it's a few little tweaks and then boom, they get it.
04:50:02.280
I'm at a point where I don't have to act anyway.
04:50:08.280
I definitely don't have to put on like thousands of DMs.
04:50:11.820
No, it's a I've gotten to a better spot, but I remember being like a sis was a senior
04:50:21.640
Yeah, I was also going to say I feel like the younger crowd of women are more into that
04:50:25.680
like a little like mature older women that like they want men that take care of them.
04:50:36.200
One of our previous male panelists on the show, Brandon, from way back, and I don't know
04:50:45.680
I don't know if I necessarily agree with it, but have any of you heard the saying, if you
04:50:50.060
treat her like dirt, she'll stick to you like mud?
04:50:57.700
I don't know if there's any truth to it, but I wonder if part of it is like maybe obviously
04:51:05.180
women are attracted to confident men, self-assured men.
04:51:11.540
Thank you guys for a good night time to go to bed.
04:51:15.040
Before I leave, can the two of girls kiss each other?
04:51:49.820
Well, I think like maybe when some women are younger, they're going to confuse like that
04:51:55.260
arrogance or asshole behavior as for confidence.
04:52:02.240
So it's almost like they'd rather date a guy who's an asshole but confident than date a guy
04:52:08.220
who's nice but weak or a guy who's nice but insecure because it's not attractive.
04:52:14.360
And also I think like, for example, there is, I'm not an expert in psychology, but like there
04:52:18.600
is a phenomenon where women will like get in touch and there's a few potential explanations
04:52:25.040
Women will contact men who are in prison seeking like romantic relationships with these men
04:52:34.200
Even like the fucking serial killers will get like attention from women, they'll be like sending him letters, they'll want to meet him, maybe even get married.
04:52:45.820
What, did you send a letter to a prisoner the way you're looking at me right now?
04:52:49.240
Just the way you were looking, I was like, what did you send?
04:52:51.280
I also feel like girls are into like, I've heard like some of my friends say this, that they like like toxic relationships.
04:53:02.180
I do think that the worst thing you can do is bore a woman.
04:53:11.320
Yeah, I think you can do anything except bore a woman.
04:53:16.180
I think another component is like a guy who's a criminal, who's like a murderer, right?
04:53:24.460
And I think it does, like there's an evolutionary component of like a guy who's capable of violence.
04:53:33.020
You can, you can sort of see that, okay, he would be capable of, he would be prepared to defend you.
04:53:45.400
But it's hot if a guy gets into like a fight over you.
04:53:51.180
And then if you just take it like really far, then you get to the Britney Spears in love with a criminal.
04:53:56.020
I also feel like it's the aftermath of like the fight after, you know, when you have like, there's like after fight sex.
04:54:07.740
You fight and then after you fight with the best sex.
04:54:13.760
So like for a lot of, I've like heard this, like for a lot of people, they would like fight with their significant other.
04:54:27.140
Oh, so you would start shit with your boyfriend?
04:54:32.820
But also like, and then after the fight, he'd like comfort you and stuff like that.
04:54:36.800
And I mean, I don't like toxic relationships, but I think that could be reasons why people do.
04:54:42.740
I'd rather a man fight another man over me than fight me.
04:54:50.380
But then there's another thing that I've spoken about with one of my other friends as well.
04:54:58.360
And the girls would be choke me, slap me like in bed.
04:55:08.080
And it's like, because there is something primal and instinctual about them wanting to be overpowered and dominated and violence.
04:55:14.640
And it's like, yo, I do not want to be violent at all.
04:55:17.820
I've only seen that in women who have like childhood trauma, though.
04:55:21.540
I feel like a lot of girls feel like choking me.
04:55:25.340
I don't know what happens in the past like five years or something.
04:55:31.300
I mean, statistically, they've figured out that it's because more women are watching more porn.
04:55:37.180
And porn in like, not only fans, I mean, like the actual porn industry that they are so violent.
04:55:45.660
And it's desensitizing women and men to both of those.
04:55:50.220
What about the, let's like, maybe if some of the girls, do you prefer gentle or rough sex?
04:56:14.280
Just say you like to get your hair pulled and get spanked and all this shit.
04:56:17.640
But there's obviously a time and place for different types of intercourse.
04:56:22.860
But yeah, it is quite the conundrum where it's like that fear and the danger and violence is like.
04:56:34.680
And so that's why women go bounce from toxic relationship to toxic relationship.
04:56:39.000
Because once you're in one, you live off of chaos and you live off of toxic energy and stress.
04:56:46.780
And so when you're addicted to that dopamine rush, once it goes away, you have to have it back.
04:56:53.060
So women are constantly seeking that dopamine rush because that's the only thing they know that they're getting dopamine from is abuse.
04:57:15.660
One guy who like is kind of into BDSM and he wants to tie you up and choke you and fucking spank you and put marks on you.
04:57:22.260
Maybe not like hit you, but like, you know, whatever it is.
04:57:36.640
Sex has gotten a lot more aggressive, I feel like, in movies.
04:57:47.180
I don't know if it's a domino effect or if it's a snowball.
04:57:50.440
But it's like maybe girls are like heard something or they're like.
04:57:54.600
They heard from something from their girlfriends or they heard maybe had an experience with a guy.
04:58:04.500
So then guys are seeing all the girls who are wanting to be.
04:58:11.040
And then the girls must think, oh, this is what all guys want.
04:58:30.920
Reinforcement is rewarding the behavior and positive is giving something rather than taking away.
04:58:45.300
Thank you so much, man, for the gifted 20 subs on Twitch.
04:58:59.000
Oh, Nick, can you X out of those at the bottom?
04:59:16.480
Drop us a prime sub if you have one available on Twitch.
04:59:23.620
And Mr. Pay to win, thank you so much for the 20 community subs.
04:59:32.600
You went, Maddie, I don't know if you have nothing.
04:59:41.520
I had, actually, we had one thing we have to do with Riley.
04:59:49.200
I thought you were talking about where we all had to riz you up.
05:00:02.160
By the way, I know you did say you have to take a while.
05:00:14.300
But yeah, I know you mentioned you might have to excuse yourself.
05:00:17.060
Yeah, no, I'm just looking at my phone to keep up.
05:01:21.260
You know that one like audio or it's like a video and it's this girl talking about her
05:01:26.080
and how her like man met and he was like, I was walking down the street and like, he
05:02:07.900
I've been deeply hurt and betrayed by you, Riley.
05:02:19.280
I saw on your TikTok, you have plagiarized me and I am deeply offended.
05:02:57.760
Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a bar?
05:03:08.420
Grab that and just, like, scoot it to the right.
05:03:47.820
So you need to just click on a gray spot of OBS so we don't see the red.
05:04:42.320
Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a bar, club, party-like type
05:04:48.300
environment where he's going to be approached, flirted with, and sexually pursued by numerous
05:04:53.560
attractive women, some of which are more attractive than you and could potentially be
05:04:59.360
They'll be buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically trying to sleep
05:05:03.480
with him that night and steal him away from you.
05:05:06.000
You're telling me that you would be okay with that?
05:05:38.140
It's just this is a dream world hypothetical scenario.
05:05:40.920
Girls really don't be hitting up guys like this.
05:05:42.880
Would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub, bar, or party
05:05:48.680
type environment where, throughout the course of the night, he's going to get approached,
05:05:57.260
Someone who's not more drunk than you and could potentially be a better partner than you.
05:06:01.760
And these women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically want to sleep
05:06:06.400
with him that night and steal him away from you.
05:06:08.920
You're going to tell me you'd be okay with that.
05:06:13.040
So you can see how this can be a little contradictory.
05:06:24.760
I think men are the coolest, but I don't need them to survive.
05:06:27.860
What do you mean you don't need men to survive?
05:06:30.500
Everything around you was built, created, and maintained by men.
05:06:34.660
Everything, the infrastructure in this country, in every single country in the world, it
05:06:38.760
was all created by good, hardworking, honest men that just want to provide for their families.
05:06:44.040
These men built the world and made it so comfortable to the point where women think they don't even
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Like, I think men are the coolest, but I don't need them to survive.
05:07:03.880
Everything that you see around you was built and created and maintained by men.
05:07:12.080
The infrastructure in this country, in every single country in the world, is built, created,
05:07:18.360
and maintained by good, honest, hardworking men that just want to provide for their family.
05:07:24.920
The roads you drive on, the buildings you live in.
05:07:53.180
My videos are different because the boobs are the focus.
05:07:55.300
Actually, if you go to the comments, all that anyone talks about is how red they are.
05:08:20.540
It's great content, and I honestly started posting TikToks not too long ago, and I honestly
05:08:48.340
I feel like that's just a way of saying, like, he's a cool guy.
05:09:05.320
How can you simultaneously say that you're for body positivity, but then also use these terms?
05:09:13.740
How did the girls on this podcast not see the hypocrisy here?
05:09:17.200
I mean, if the tables were turned and a guy told you that you had loose pussy energy,
05:09:52.260
How can you simultaneously say that you're for body positivity, but then also use these terms?
05:10:03.180
If we were talking about loose p***y energy, cavernous vag energy, small p***s energy,
05:10:12.720
like, y'all would lose your minds as we're using these terms the same way that women use...
05:10:31.860
You're making me bust out my Canadian accent here.
05:10:42.880
It's not a big deal, but I thought that was funny, so...
05:10:53.520
To be fair, you changed a little bit in that last one, so you improvised...
05:10:56.660
Yeah, you know, in the last sentence, like, there was a little...
05:11:01.320
I think it goes to show that she just likes what you gotta say.
05:11:49.280
We told Brian to get, like, a fake set of, like, titties.
05:12:01.820
Just, you know, paint them, like, a little red, and then you'll have the comments going crazy.
05:12:15.000
That's where we dim the lights and have a real moody conversation.
05:12:30.240
Because I have work in the morning, so I don't...
05:12:31.520
As long as it's only, like, 10, 15 minutes, then...
05:12:57.300
I'm like, yeah, I shouldn't have asked the chat.
05:12:58.920
Does the chat have to do something to get an After Show?
05:13:11.060
By the way, After Show, like, you don't have to stay.
05:13:14.040
If some of you have to dip, like, that's cool enough.
05:13:16.440
I'll stay as long as it's, like, 10, 15 minutes.
05:13:32.940
I'll lower the TTS to 20 if you psychos wanna get some shit in.
05:13:37.180
So, but for those of you who are gonna take off, last call, hit the like button, please,
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You could've been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who superchats, donates, and supports the show.
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Thank you to the wonderful panel who made it to the end.
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Big thank you to Britt, who is helping with timestamps.
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Any women who wanna be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
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We will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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And with y'all, I'm gonna go to the link in the description, and I'm sure I follow up.
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And Riley is gonna stay because she feels like I don't care.
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If this was a university, you would be on academic probation.
05:15:01.360
And we are doing a hard stop at 1230, so that's...
05:15:04.540
We have 12 more minutes, and then we're gonna wrap it up.
05:15:13.700
Oh, we got a lot of people staying for the After Show, so I guess we'll just stay...
05:15:25.540
Bethany, I know you have some dying questions that you want to ask.
05:15:29.420
The panel, you seem like you've just been dying to get a word in, you know?
05:15:36.260
I feel like you really want to ask Ryan something here.
05:15:55.520
I think I saw them, and I DM'd them, because I was like, oh, I like their faces, and I
05:15:59.680
do YouTube videos, and I was like, oh, I could put them in something.
05:16:06.200
I haven't done a video with Bethany or anything, but I've done videos with Tiff.
05:16:19.520
He's been on my stream a couple times, or just once, and I've been in a couple of his
05:16:25.560
Ryan, if you started in the OF, how much money do you think you'd make?
05:16:30.820
Man, I don't know if anyone wants to see that, to be honest.
05:16:35.500
I was going to ask you, like, how much do you actually make?
05:16:42.440
I feel like usually the guys that are on OF are doing stuff with girls, too, so.
05:16:47.460
Any guy that's on OF, they've had, like, a gay male fan base.
05:17:35.140
We'll read anything $9 and up, and then the TTS is $19 and up.
05:17:43.560
So if you want to do any TTS, it's now set to $19.
05:17:47.760
And then just read, whether it's on Super Chat or through Streamlabs, it's $9 and up.
05:17:53.760
Get them in, though, because we're only doing this for 10 minutes.
05:18:01.640
Oh, I thought you were going to say you had to go do something.
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But yeah, I did see that video of, like, the Island Boys.
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I didn't know they had an OnlyFans together, though.
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I heard he did something with a midget on his OnlyFans.
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Did they, like, just start doing stuff together or something?
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It's been, like, in the past month, I feel like.
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And I was like, probably a lot more people than I'd like to know.
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But I thought he was, like, yeah, he's so young.
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Jack and the twins, like, collabed on OnlyFans or something.
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I like how collabed nowadays is, like, just fuck.
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Whereas back in my day, it was, like, you made a video together, content and scripts and stuff.
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And do you, like, get a lot of guys based off of the fact that you play video games?
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But, like, it's kind of funny because I had a guy come over the other night.
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And he actually, he came in because I told him, I was, like, oh, like, I am leaving the door unlocked.
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So he comes in and he has to wait, like, 30 minutes because I'm in the middle of, like, a competitive game.
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And he was, like, you know, like, usually it's the other way around.
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But I found myself, like, sitting there waiting for you to finish playing.
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I think it's really fun when the guy I'm talking to plays video games, especially if they play, like, Valorant or, like, Pokemon or any of the games that I'm into.
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Because, like, it's a good way for me to spend time with them.
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Honestly, I think it's a turnoff when they don't play video games.
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How much money do you make just streaming playing video games?
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Definitely not, like, a lot compared to my OnlyFans.
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I do make money off of, like, YouTube and streaming and stuff.
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But, like, I stream mainly because, like, I love connecting, like, with my followers through that.
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And also, I love clipping my streams and posting them on other platforms.
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How long have you been streaming and how long have you been doing OnlyFans for?
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You said that you gained your YouTube, like, a thousand, hundred thousand people in a month, right?
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I had one of my shorts blow up to almost 40 million views.
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Was there cleavage in that 40 million view one?
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Because I, isn't, do you have, like, a theme to your content?
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Like, you know how there's, like, kind of more, like, emo or, like, e-girl or, kind
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Like, a lot of girls will do cosplay, for example.
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Like, some of the stuff that I do, like, is cosplay.
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But, like, I also do, like, normal things, you know?
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Like, a lot of people went really crazy with my, when I did, like, a Killjoy cosplay.
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Like, Killjoy's a character from Valorant, so a lot of people liked that.
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Has that been, has the asteroid been coming in?
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Yo, dude, Mr. Meatball, thank you so much for the very generous TTS man.
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Yeah, I didn't, this is news to me that they're fucking making out with each other.
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Are they gonna, do I have a beef with island boys now?
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I don't know if I'm big enough for them to fucking beef with me.
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Nah, they'd probably collab with you or something.
05:23:29.380
Alex P, yo, Brian, pen messages on the app with the pics from the Patriot pen maker.
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Go get you some so you can have a pen that actually works.
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Nothing was like heated, which was like kind of nice.
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That was like the first question that went around the channel.
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Yeah, she was like ready to fight back and stuff.
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But she had a weak constitution when it came to having conversations.
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I mean, anyways, Mr. Cappadocia O'Reilly, you're the first OF girl with an Insta that
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Have you thought about branching out into a legitimate show?
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I mean, I definitely have thought about it because I really do like, I don't know, talking
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and having conversations with people and just, I don't know, being silly.
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Yeah, I've definitely, I've definitely considered it.
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I thought you were, like, it just crossed my mind.
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I'm getting, like, you're actually going to do my, like, this format.
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I think we should have, actually, you know what, Riley?
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Okay, this is how you're going to make it up to me.
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So, what you're going to do every single week, it's going to be a dating talk, but you're going
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And you take, you are in charge of, like, gathering some girls, a new set of girls every week.
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And it's going to be a dating talk, and I'll be, like, kicking it, but I'm not really going
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You're going to be, like, the based fucking host, and you're being, like, checking these
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Actually, can you, can you react to me exposing you, and then, like, but you're wearing one
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I got exposed on a podcast, and then you can, now you can use it as content.
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All right, we have Lana, or Madison, can you read this one?
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Lambda Sky says, these girls are pretty cool compared to others you've had on.
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I don't know if that restores my faith or destroys it for them.
05:26:58.880
All right, pretty cool compared to the others you've had on.
05:27:05.260
I'm a steel worker in Ohio who makes roughly 80K a year, six foot, and not very religious.
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Am I in good position to start dating long term?
05:27:15.340
Steel worker in Ohio makes 80K a year, six feet.
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You're in a good position to do whatever you want.
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You're making above, 80K is a very respectful salary, especially in Ohio.
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I think you're in a good position, but, you know, we don't know what you look like.
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You're in the perfect position to start dating.
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All right, we have Alex P here, and I think this is the last one, and then we'll wrap.
05:28:04.940
I can literally make you a pen out of a mammoth tusk if you want.
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Can you make me like a, I want like a, a, fuck, what's the word?
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Let me just double check, make sure we got everybody's.
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If you move your head, we're getting a really good tricep flex here.
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Sorry, I don't know why it's not triggering the voice, but Brian, stop cloud chasing Riley.
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You probably can't even afford nice tits like her.
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I mean, honestly, they weren't as bad as I thought they would be.
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I actually can't share this because when I did get them, my parents actually paid for it.
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Thank you so much for that very generous donation here at the end of the stream.
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Really appreciate your patronage these past few weeks, man.
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We will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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Actually, I think recently his, yeah, they broke up.
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If you were single, would you date our good friend Felix?
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He goes by XQC, one of the top Twitch streamers.
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He recently signed a deal with Kik for $100 million.
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He can retire you from the having to stomp on dudes' heads or whatever the fuck it is that
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So, he could, you know, pros and cons, you know.
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People were, like, begging me to curb stomp them.