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00:04:35.000 we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location

00:04:39.480 and occupation go ahead i'm in uly but you can call me emily i'm 23 and i'm partly

00:04:48.820 living in hungary and denmark and you're uh natively born where in denmark okay and what do you do for

00:04:57.280 work i do of all right what's the nature of your of content everything boy girl everything

00:05:06.400 okay all right uh any school i know only i think you considered high no what's before high school

00:05:17.220 elementary school junior high school yeah okay that's it uh you when did you drop out of school

00:05:26.320 at what age in denmark um i was 16 16 yeah okay uh and really quick can you show us your tattoos

00:05:35.620 there just maybe pull the hair back a little bit uh scoot that way yeah so it's you have an only

00:05:41.940 fans tattoo a pisces and then entering the cleavage area there's a can you explain the that tattoo

00:05:51.980 hand gesture which and i just got it because i thought it looked cool but then i get my i was

00:06:02.140 going to a tattoo artist to get my what is it called stomach stomach sternum oh okay yeah and he was

00:06:09.920 like oh that's a sick satanic tattoo and i was like what are you talking about and then he told me

00:06:15.980 the story behind it so yeah so it is a satanic symbol yeah okay and you also have a tattoo that

00:06:23.420 says don't be mad at me what's why it's for you brian i don't want you to be mad yeah you got it just

00:06:29.060 for me that's what i figured um all right um what about you hi my name is cena i'm 18 my occupation is

00:06:38.740 of of and i live in canada and i do engineering and only fans yeah okay what about you my name is

00:06:49.860 isabella i'm 18 i'm studying brain sciences at ucsb and i'm a student all right and where are you from

00:06:56.440 uh california okay what about you uh my name is katie valentine i am what are we saying again sorry

00:07:04.340 age uh i'm 34 i'm from las vegas i just finished school i have my degree in paralegal studies um so

00:07:13.040 i'm kind of on a break between school and working for uh another law firm and then i also dance in

00:07:18.900 vegas and i do only fans kind of still okay and you're from vegas or i'm from sacramento sacramento

00:07:26.620 born and raised and then i live in vegas now and then you do um you you do only fans any like you

00:07:33.020 did you say stripping dancing dancing yeah any other kind of sex work um i escorted for a really

00:07:38.380 long time uh currently not anymore but i escorted for years in vegas so you don't escort anymore

00:07:45.180 okay because i thought there was like still active listings or they're still up but you just don't

00:07:51.900 there could be um but i mean they might not be necessarily associated with me but a lot of times

00:07:57.160 over the years they've stolen photos and all sorts of stuff okay what about you my name is amanda i'm

00:08:04.780 from sacramento i am 34 and i do veterans mental health and give away free cannabis all right uh any

00:08:13.640 school i have a bachelor's in health care administration with a minor in public health

00:08:17.800 and that program was focused on the health disparities in the veteran population

00:08:22.760 and i'm currently in school uh taking pre-law classes and um american sign language all right

00:08:31.780 what about you my name is kyla i'm 27 i am born and raised in oregon but i live in arizona now

00:08:38.840 i do modeling for the young agency i um am a manager of the best job ever it's a juice company called

00:08:48.980 clean juice in gilbert arizona shout out them um and then i'm also a behavioral technician for

00:08:55.720 kids with autism and any schooling or um i went to culinary school for a year um but i dropped out

00:09:03.640 after that full year all right well that's uh that's everybody um i mean do andrew i feel like you

00:09:13.320 do we need to introduce you know it's like you know what i mean do you want you want you want to

00:09:19.400 introduce yourself well maybe for those of you on the panel who don't know if you if you don't know

00:09:25.180 my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's a popular entertainment channel on youtube

00:09:29.860 i'm a political analyst a political satirist and i do conversations and debates uh with people all over

00:09:35.880 the world and um so i'm happy to be here with you tonight to talk to you guys welcome shrek two on

00:09:42.100 donated two hundred dollars my sprinkler goes like this just just go back yeah man bro

00:09:51.340 dude comes back like this

00:09:56.200 uh shrek two on dvd i appreciate that man thank you um so going around the table once more

00:10:07.600 what is um your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and

00:10:16.620 what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead i'm currently single my last relationship

00:10:22.960 were in may and it lasted a month ish and my longest is about a year okay so uh how uh it ended

00:10:37.960 like six months ago yeah last relationship and your longest was one year was that the one that ended

00:10:44.800 six months ago no i was 18 at the time okay uh so the how long was the relationship

00:10:52.820 that ended six months ago only about a month okay who broke up with who um i broke up with her

00:11:01.500 her okay and then the one year relationship who broke up with who i think it was him who broke up

00:11:10.140 with me what do you mean you think it was a long time ago and it was on and off you don't recall the

00:11:16.900 nature of the breakup of the longest relationship you've ever had because it was a long you're 23 right

00:11:21.680 yeah and it was five years ago i remember i remember i remember the breakup from 20 years

00:11:30.900 ago but okay um he saw another girl and then i was kind of mad about it but he didn't want to be with

00:11:38.460 me so we both like mutually broke up yeah ish by the way damien we have hold on i got to go and show

00:11:45.860 for a sec

00:11:46.360 all right okay sorry about that guys um

00:12:10.740 uh okay so your orientation you're bisexual yeah i don't label myself i just

00:12:19.700 like i'm attracted to people's personalities so like pansexual i guess if you have to put a label

00:12:27.000 on it okay shoes by the way um so you'll date a you'll date somebody who's trans then if they're

00:12:34.160 kind then yeah okay all right what about you longest a year and a half been single since high school

00:12:43.500 single a year ago single okay longest okay all right what about you uh i'm taken for 10 months so far

00:12:55.720 and my longest relationship is a year same guy yeah okay uh longest one year currently you've been in it

00:13:03.980 for 10 months okay all right is his hair also colored no but it's longer than mine he has longer hair than

00:13:11.940 yours okay cool uh right what about you um currently i'm kind of in an on again off again relationship

00:13:21.960 is it a situation complicated no i mean it's complicated for sure we were together for four

00:13:28.020 years and we lived together and then we had a breakup um like a year and a half well more than a

00:13:35.020 year and a half take the bag take the bag um and so we've kind of gone back and forth over the last

00:13:39.980 year and a half and my longest relationship was seven and a half eight years and that was

00:13:45.620 i don't know uh seven years ago seven years ago probably i'm sorry i'm gonna have to have

00:13:53.940 so okay how long have you been in this on again off again relationship like five and a half six

00:13:59.920 years is this your longest no my longest is seven and a half years okay uh how many times has it been

00:14:07.460 on again off again um scoot into the table too many to really say like that several over the last year

00:14:17.860 and a half um uh so wait you uh several times okay and your seven-year relationship who broke up with

00:14:29.080 who i left him okay and your current uh of all the on again off agains with your current five to six

00:14:38.360 year complicated situationship you said it's been multiple times there's been breakups the first four

00:14:43.360 years not at all but then who ends it typically

00:14:46.160 both of us depends on the day fill that out

00:14:51.260 um okay before i have you do that uh name age occupation location go ahead

00:15:01.520 um my name is jasmine i am 27 years old from la i work part-time managing a smoke shop in pacoima

00:15:13.020 and uh other part-time i am i just graduated doing pharmacy so i am a pharmacy tech for walgreens

00:15:20.560 i need you to speak close to the mic so i am sorry i am a pharmacy tech for walgreens um i'm planning to

00:15:25.820 go back to school but that's pretty much it for now do you have a bachelor's in anything uh no nothing

00:15:32.020 like that at the moment just my certificate in pharmacy tech okay um and then uh uh your uh relationship

00:15:44.820 status how long have you been uh longest relationship

00:15:49.320 so at the moment i am currently engaged uh we have been together for going on four years

00:15:57.720 um my longest relationship would be four years um it would be this one

00:16:05.260 the past relationship that i had was i want to say like about three and a half years something like that

00:16:12.720 um and yeah that's pretty much it before that i was in a relationship from the time about

00:16:20.720 16 to 18 and then um then it was a three-year relationship and now i'm engaged

00:16:29.000 all right um the three and a half year relationship who broke up with who

00:16:34.660 i ended the relationship okay uh what about you i am married i've been married since 2019

00:16:44.720 and we met in 2012 uh so you've been together for about 12 years then total yeah that's what that's

00:16:52.380 wild and you married for sorry how uh we got married in 2019 you said yes so like five five six years

00:17:00.300 okay and i'm assuming that's your longest relationship correct any breaks or it's just been

00:17:06.500 straight no but we did start long distance started off long distance okay got it what about you

00:17:12.940 i am in a very happy healthy relationship with my boyfriend of almost two years now we're long

00:17:19.420 distance um my longest relationship was going on four years who broke up with who and the oh i broke

00:17:28.200 up with him and you said that your current relationship is long distance did it start long

00:17:32.680 distance yes it did okay and at any point has it not been long distance nope we've always been

00:17:38.540 long distance what's the distance uh he lives in oregon that's where i'm from originally and i live in

00:17:44.320 arizona okay all right uh that's everybody's uh relationship status um give me one sec here guys to get a

00:17:53.340 couple things going uh all right um sorry guys a little hectic here with uh the uh situation so

00:18:02.820 we're gonna get into some of the pre-show notes let me see where we begin one sec guys uh why don't we

00:18:11.600 start with you so you uh you're an oaf creator from denmark you uh say you're the currently biggest one

00:18:21.880 in denmark that's self-claimed self self-claimed uh you said you're very conservative i am i think i am

00:18:30.140 yeah and you really disagree with some of the feminists feminists on the show i do was there

00:18:35.340 anything in specific that you i've seen a lot uh also just like debates on tiktok and i consider

00:18:43.520 myself like a conservative yeah okay i'm definitely not a feminist like or an extreme feminist because i

00:18:52.520 think it's gone to the extremes wait so you consider yourself a feminist no not feminist okay um in

00:19:01.960 what ways are you conservative i appreciate the traditional like man should be a man and woman

00:19:10.100 should be women yeah what do you mean that what does that mean like i think us women are the weaker

00:19:18.940 gender and i think it's manly to be like a provider and stuff yeah anything else that just just a

00:19:31.740 quick clarification what do you consider feminism to be

00:19:35.260 the equal rights but right yeah but i think feminists so you don't believe in equal rights

00:19:44.560 i do i think it should be opportunity for so if if feminism is about equal rights and you believe

00:19:50.800 in equal rights then how would you not be a feminist that's true but i don't consider myself like you know

00:19:57.780 the extreme examples of a feminist what's an extreme example of a feminist those who think men

00:20:05.400 are like dirt and like misandrist misandrist i think right i i don't know what that

00:20:14.540 oh like uh do you know what the misandrist yeah yeah like man uh man hater yeah yeah totally yeah

00:20:20.700 i i don't agree with those but yeah that's wokeism though that's not really feminism yeah okay

00:20:25.980 it's kind of feminism i mean it's i would just say it's true that there's a lot of feminists who are

00:20:33.580 woke but i don't think that it's necessarily true that all feminists are woke i think that woke is a

00:20:39.760 different woke is a different ideology which uh has to do with intersectionality and all sorts of

00:20:45.600 other you know nonsense essentially it's a progressive mantra but if feminism just means

00:20:51.120 egalitarianism or equality like you say and you believe in equality how how could you not be a

00:20:57.200 feminist exactly i'm sorry if i didn't get the the facts straight but i don't consider myself

00:21:03.560 being like an extreme feminist like man hater but if we speak about equal rights then yeah

00:21:14.200 okay so um

00:21:19.320 you said you're you believe in like the traditional gender roles yeah and you're conservative man

00:21:26.440 is a man and or what was it what did you say again i think it's okay to say that women

00:21:33.240 are the weaker gender okay and men are kind of you know the rough creatures yeah what was the other

00:21:40.920 thing you said though like men are men and women are what was that yeah i just said it's very mainly

00:21:46.600 for men to be a man okay um as far as like being conservative i guess though and that statement you

00:21:53.560 said you're pansexual right which would indicate that you would date somebody who's transgender or

00:21:57.560 or non-binary i mean how do you reconcile the whole like men are men and women are women with like

00:22:02.440 also what so are you just like not you would date somebody who's transgender but you don't

00:22:11.400 you think it's bullshit no i don't really want to put like a label like i'm only conservative you

00:22:18.520 know i think i have i agree with a bit here and a bit here and yeah so okay if a man decides to become

00:22:30.280 a woman then if i really vibe with that person and i enjoy the company then i could date them okay i i

00:22:39.800 haven't heard a single conservative principle here it sounds like you just like men because they pay your

00:22:44.520 bills like that's what it's literally what it sounds like it's like yeah you just kind of like

00:22:49.720 them because they pay your bills i get that but when i'm in a relationship i pay their bills they become

00:22:55.160 like a house man you can say well wait when was your last relationship uh it was in may

00:23:05.160 with a girl yeah okay and your longest relationship how old did you say you were i was 18 when it ended

00:23:15.160 you were 18 when i mean you weren't paying anybody's bills oh yeah no my last but it was only nine

00:23:21.720 months um okay it ended in 2020 yeah okay gotcha well you have some uh other stuff here you said you've

00:23:32.920 had some crazy relationships you had one open relationship where you could hook up with others

00:23:39.480 yeah and he would drive you to them and wait outside yeah that was the longest relationship

00:23:45.720 the that was the one-year relationship okay so we can probably go split here i think um

00:23:55.640 um so

00:24:02.440 for the it was uh open on just your end or his end well it would it was open for both of us but he

00:24:08.920 just didn't do anything about it but you were doing something about i was yeah uh were you dating

00:24:14.920 both men and women no at that time i didn't date anyone else i was just well having carnal knowledge

00:24:21.560 sexual intercourse yeah only men back then yeah only men okay uh how many uh during the course of

00:24:29.240 the one-year relationship how many other men did you get with in some capacity or four yeah and he

00:24:36.920 drove you to all four of those no only one of them he only drove you to one time

00:24:45.400 uh it was the same guy but multiple times yeah okay so he he only drove you to one guy but you

00:24:51.000 went to that guy multiple times so he drove you multiple times um and he would he would wait outside

00:24:56.920 yeah how long and i didn't ask him to what would be the average wait time i mean was it

00:25:01.240 boom boom boom quick quick well he weren't like a quickie um so it could be like one hour or two

00:25:08.200 two yeah and then when you got back in the car would he go in for a kiss immediately yeah he went in for

00:25:13.800 the kiss yeah and i would start crying because i was so like yeah i didn't want you started crying yeah

00:25:25.640 i did what what do you mean after he kissed you no did you like snowball it was would you ever like

00:25:32.280 save it like snowball or whatever what is a snowball never mind oh sorry i'm just seeing how much of a

00:25:39.480 this guy is um so okay he uh was this in denmark he was dan was he danish yeah not all danish people

00:25:49.720 like that i promise would he get jealous that's the thing it was because i had this guy i was

00:25:59.160 hooking up with for a couple of years and then i met my boyfriend at the time and then i couldn't

00:26:05.080 stop thinking about the guy i was hooking up with so i told him we need to like stop our relationship

00:26:10.040 because i'm still thinking about this guy and then he started crying and was like okay if that's

00:26:14.920 like what you need then we can still be together and you can hook up with this person um and so i did

00:26:22.840 that all right um so would he be kind of like more excited afterwards you weren't like a cuckold no

00:26:35.640 you said he would kiss you immediately after yeah because like did you like brush your teeth at

00:26:40.600 least or something no i didn't it was kind of disturbing yeah

00:26:47.320 you say that you were from the gen mark sorry you say you were from the gen mark yeah denmark

00:26:53.080 the gen mark oh man and uh um i'm assuming when you went to hook up with this guy or the other guys

00:27:03.720 even though you didn't drive you like you would you perform um oral sex

00:27:12.360 on only only the guy i saw multiple times the guy that he drove you to you would perform oral sex

00:27:19.720 yeah and then you would as soon as you got into the car you would kiss him i think it was just like

00:27:25.960 the usual thing like hi ish oh my was this before or after you started of of uh way before i started of of

00:27:36.600 okay so it's before of yeah um

00:27:41.640 that's such an l for the guy um he he cried when you broke up with him or how yeah the first time when

00:27:49.960 i told him that i had these thoughts about the other guy he cried i was 16 at the time and he was

00:27:56.360 like 17. so that's disgusting oh my gosh

00:28:04.920 do you still miss him are you sure he wasn't a cock are you sure he was not a cock um i do not miss him

00:28:11.960 and i am sure he's in a healthy relationship of five years now so i think yeah i want to do a public

00:28:19.560 service announcement for all the men out there this should be your baseline standard even if you

00:28:25.800 struggle to get women it should like the you do not sink this low ever ever your baseline should be

00:28:35.480 if she was if a woman is sexually involved with another man that is a hundred percent a deal breaker

00:28:42.600 i don't care if you just met her if she's sexually involved with another man it's a wrap go

00:28:48.120 find yourself a different girl you can't be dealing with a girl who's fucking another guy

00:28:54.600 period psa don't isn't that an open relationship i'm advising men i'm inviting men i don't dude if

00:29:05.560 you want look i'll grant if you as a guy look i don't agree with male promiscuity the only scenario

00:29:11.880 where this is like even copacetic would be if it's only open on your end but you but i'm not

00:29:18.440 i'm not saying i'm in favor of that that's the only open relationship dynamic i'd be even willing

00:29:23.400 to say is acceptable

00:29:27.480 with that said you cannot be dealing with a girl who's fucking another guy don't do it

00:29:32.760 full mormon on us you're going full mormon on us brian hey you know maybe uh hey you never know

00:29:38.600 but uh the orthodox have to fight with the mormons for the soul of brian atlas well i'm not look i'm

00:29:43.560 not i'm not i'm saying i'm not prescribing men do that but if like you can't have but you can't do

00:29:53.080 it you can't do it like the girls fucking other dudes you know if she's like cool with you seeing

00:29:59.720 other chicks i guess then it's like you know look monogamy is cool you know i'm all for monogamy but

00:30:07.320 like you're saying you're talking about open relationships the only acceptable open relationship

00:30:12.440 it was when it's only open for the guy why because evolution and biology and differences and

00:30:21.320 asymmetry so what would that be considered gay if like no like because if she had oral sex right and

00:30:30.120 then they yeah so it's um it's gay by proxy no it's just gay it's just straight okay i mean if he's

00:30:40.280 like seeking it out like he's like she he's like a just like no brian if you have foreknowledge

00:30:46.200 that a chick just blew a guy and then you kissed her on purpose how's that not gay you know what you're

00:30:52.280 right it is gay wouldn't you be worried about stds oh yeah for sure it's it's uh it's uh you know

00:31:01.400 yeah that's yeah that's that's uh pretty bad um anyways um

00:31:11.720 i'm still kind of i'm a little shocked right now though i'm shocked that's crazy

00:31:18.520 there's no self-respect no self-respect oh let me babe how far did he have to drive

00:31:24.280 now hang on brian i gotta challenge you on this because um i don't actually know why you're surprised

00:31:31.400 that all the women into genmark are like this oh the fucking for the election stream that we did

00:31:36.680 yeah yeah she said all of them are like that i mean it's a scandinavian country right they're

00:31:41.480 pretty progressive when it comes to uh yeah that stuff i don't know there's some uh andrew let's

00:31:47.400 not throw the scandinavians under the bus there's some super fucking based viking like viking based

00:31:53.480 giga chad swedes and norwegians and uh danish it's mostly soy boys look look hey there's no andrew

00:32:03.560 trust me bro there i i know a few there's some there's they're gonna retake their fucking country

00:32:09.400 okay trust me dude you you're remember with the election stream you're like uh kamala you're starting

00:32:15.960 fucking crying kamala's gonna win i was like get the you got andrew we gotta work on this man you got

00:32:22.840 to be more optimistic bro you got we got trump and we got trump in the oval office get a little

00:32:29.160 more be a little more optimistic we're gonna reclaim we're not this isn't we're not just gonna

00:32:33.960 make america great again we're gonna make sweden great again denmark great again norway great again

00:32:39.000 we're gonna if we gotta annex all of scandinavia we're gonna do it but there's some

00:32:44.360 based there's some base guys by the way all right all right rare brian w rare brian w i'll i'll

00:32:50.440 i'll concede it this is a rare brian w and by the way i'm uh this isn't is that like could that

00:32:58.040 be like terrorist threats yeah i don't know we're gonna retail i'm not kidding i don't i don't think

00:33:04.360 so we're gonna do it we're gonna make scandinavia great again we're not gonna annex these countries

00:33:11.160 but we're gonna do it through diplomatic processes democratic processes and we will um

00:33:18.360 we're gonna make sweden swedish again we're gonna make norway nor norwegian again and we're gonna

00:33:24.360 make denmark american because you got it's too far gone i'm sorry it's too far gone wouldn't it be

00:33:30.200 danish again well danish again yeah but they're too far gone we gotta we just got invaded denmark

00:33:36.280 sweden norway gets the pass denmark we got invaded so i'm kidding don't put me on the list um okay so

00:33:42.520 uh hold on we have one thing coming through here from

00:33:48.360 conqueftador donated two hundred dollars why is that if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men

00:33:54.760 she's a sloat but if a man does the same thing then he's gay also ladies name three countries okay

00:34:03.160 starting with you name three countries go denmark sweden norway damn okay you can't repeat no

00:34:08.680 repeating china yeah that's one canada ah easy okay united states good job korea russia mexico okay

00:34:20.360 france italy spain okay honduras argentina ecuador can you scoot your chair in all the way into the

00:34:27.800 table what about you sorry now i'm trying to remember because i can't repeat um mexico

00:34:34.040 i said whatever if you're whatever ghana yep south africa

00:34:42.680 my turn that was very africa-centric

00:34:45.720 well i know there's a lot of countries in africa so i was just going for a general

00:34:52.600 picture of the map you know no i mean i yeah that makes sense you know you you pick a continent

00:34:57.960 had europe over there somebody started with south america so i just go ahead what about you

00:35:03.400 uh norway brazil paraguay all right there it is no no no can't use norway was it already said yep

00:35:14.040 we'll do peru there we go beautiful beautiful thank you guys uh going back to your notes though

00:35:20.120 uh let's see have you dated any other cucks besides him uh no no okay all right uh uh let's see

00:35:30.600 you said there was another guy you dated where he got uh testicular cancer yeah and he wanted to

00:35:39.080 have he wanted to force you to have his baby yeah because he was getting his can i say the word

00:35:47.080 balls removed yeah okay yeah that's fine and then because i was already pregnant he was like if i'm

00:35:54.280 getting them removed then i want to keep the baby so you wait um he didn't keep the baby no because i

00:36:04.120 found out he cheated all so you had an abortion yeah i did it's very where are these conservative

00:36:10.520 principles like no but is there a single conservative principle there like where are they i don't agree

00:36:17.240 with the whole you should not do abortion um because i was not at a mental state or financial financial

00:36:27.160 where i could take care of that baby so and i didn't want it at the time so that's why yeah

00:36:33.400 so to get this right i just want to make sure i get this clarified

00:36:36.520 pro-women's choice pro lgbtq right uh pro-women's liberation where's is there a single conservative

00:36:44.840 principle hidden anywhere any like i'm really i'm looking like i'm saying i don't want to put like

00:36:51.240 a hard label like i'm only conservative but i lean towards conservative yeah okay hey uh one sec i gotta go

00:37:00.200 uh one sec guys

00:37:05.880 all right sorry about that guys um okay so so back to the story you so you accidentally got pregnant

00:37:17.480 yeah but he i mean he told you right that he was like trying to have a kid or what was this we

00:37:21.880 weren't trying to have a kid um but he was just like blasting uh my uh you call it the pill yeah yeah

00:37:30.280 they didn't work so i accidentally become pregnant and then like shortly after he found out he had

00:37:36.920 cancer and had to remove his balls but he wanted you to keep the baby yeah because after he got his

00:37:45.240 balls removed then he couldn't have any babies so that's why and you you got the abortion on your

00:37:51.000 birthday i did yeah hmm yeah that's not well happy happy birthday to that baby well

00:38:03.000 we have the same would it be the birthday or the death day yeah

00:38:09.640 there's this great song by alien ant farm called uh happy death day anyways um

00:38:15.800 good band uh so okay he drove you home wait so hold on here here's the whole story

00:38:25.160 he got he got cancer after you were pregnant we found out after yeah okay and he was like oh

00:38:32.920 i'm gonna lose my ability to have children um let's uh keep the baby yeah

00:38:40.680 you got the abortion god on your birthday he he took you to the clinic or uh no my grandma took me to

00:38:52.040 the clinic because he was busy but it says here he oh he picked you up after did he know that you were

00:38:58.600 getting it yeah okay uh he drove you home then he went to the club and then he cheated on you

00:39:06.680 with his ex-girlfriend yeah oh but the way you said the story originally was like

00:39:11.080 he cheated on you before the abortion uh this is a different uh relationship oh how many abortions

00:39:19.480 have you had no it's the same guy i only had one then i actually don't understand help me out here so

00:39:26.120 well he cheated throughout the whole relationship i get i get that he cheated yeah right so you decided

00:39:31.720 you didn't want to have the baby oh yeah and then i went back to him but if it was if it was so bad

00:39:36.040 the cheating that you didn't want to have the baby why would you stay with the guy because of low

00:39:41.160 self-esteem i guess i was in a bad place and i wanted the to feel secure and yeah so that's why i stayed

00:39:49.640 to be honest yeah now uh just just to clarify a couple quick points he did want to keep the baby

00:39:57.560 correct and you uh you did not want to because of this history of cheating that he had yeah and you

00:40:07.080 knew that he his testicles were going to be removed due to a form of cancer so did you do this as a form

00:40:13.400 of revenge not at all i was just if i'm about to bring a child into this world it can't be us as parents

00:40:22.280 because we're toxic and he cheats and i'm not really in love with this guy and yeah

00:40:32.120 okay yeah so you guys stayed together after that you moved to london and then you got a call from

00:40:41.240 the danish government that you needed to oh you guys had like a lease together you guys were living

00:40:46.920 together yeah but in my name yeah oh okay and this is the genesis of you starting only fans because

00:40:52.680 you were in debt essentially to the was it the danish government yeah they owned the it's because

00:41:01.640 uh you call it the irs oh taxes yeah yeah you owe taxes not taxes but if you don't pay your bills

00:41:10.600 it'll get transferred to another company oh bankruptcy i don't know what it is you owe you

00:41:16.840 owed money you owed money to a company or something you were in debt and so um that's when you started

00:41:23.560 your only fans and so that you could get some uh easy money and to pay off your debt okay um and that

00:41:32.200 was in 2019 uh beginning of 2020 just okay 2020 uh you found a guy in 2021 who wanted to do of with you

00:41:41.800 while you dated uh you told him to quit his job yeah he what kind of job a software engineer okay were you

00:41:50.680 guys splitting the money uh yeah he had his own apartment and he paid for that and when we wanted

00:41:59.560 to move together we found a bigger apartment and split that but like the money that was being made

00:42:05.400 on of were oh yeah yeah it was 50 50 yeah okay does he still get money from it or no no no okay uh and

00:42:15.160 then he broke you guys went and traveled asia that you paid for and then two weeks before the trip was

00:42:21.160 done he broke up with you because it didn't feel the same yeah and then you lived together for another

00:42:26.360 five months and then you paid everything yes because he quit his software engineer job was he

00:42:31.560 did he end up making more from the only fans than he was making from his software engineering job about

00:42:36.520 the same with his part i think we'll do the other way okay over here all right okay um and then sorry

00:42:46.760 guys we got the final panelist joining us uh and then uh i'll get right into your news but i'm going

00:42:56.120 to have uh this lady introduce herself all right uh welcome to the panel scoot into the table as far as

00:43:05.080 you can please uh so give tell us your name age occupation and uh location my name is riley i'm 27 years

00:43:13.880 old i'm a web 3 developer and i live in vegas all right uh any schooling or anything like that i have

00:43:22.600 a bachelor's in computer science okay bachelor's in computer science relationship status i'm single

00:43:31.880 i've been single for a month um longest relationship is seven years you've been single for one month yeah

00:43:39.240 okay longest relationship seven years is that the one that just ended a month ago no that ended three

00:43:45.880 years ago and then the relationship that ended a month ago was how long or ten months okay seven

00:43:52.600 year relationship who broke up with who i broke up with him most recent relationship the 10 month

00:43:57.320 relationship that ended a month ago who broke up with who it was mutual mutual why was uh what was the

00:44:04.120 reason for the reason for the breakup or the um we both just want different things out of life and we

00:44:10.760 both accepted that um it there was always going to be an ending to the relationship it was never going

00:44:16.760 to be long term okay can i have you just scoot into the table a little bit and then uh all right and

00:44:26.840 then the seven year relationship why did that end um cheating cheating can i have you speak close to

00:44:34.680 the mic please okay so you gotta lean forward if you need to and then go ahead uh name circle that

00:44:40.920 what you disagree with answer the questions down there all right so getting back the

00:44:46.200 fuck getting back to you uh you said you found a guy oh no that already did that you you get weird

00:44:54.120 custom requests on only fans i do uh a few days ago a guy asked you to do a solo

00:45:01.320 why don't you tell us because yeah it was up to halloween so it was in october and i got a request

00:45:11.400 from a long-term subscriber and he was like well my father's dead and it would be quite funny if you

00:45:21.080 you did a solo tape on his you call it tombstone great graveyard yeah and i was like yeah that sounds

00:45:30.040 fun i guess i could do a halloween special out of it what wait so you did do it you didn't just get

00:45:38.440 the request you did it right i can either confirm or deny yeah you did that um was this in denmark

00:45:45.000 yeah so you went to a graveyard in denmark a guy requested that on his father's graveyard

00:45:56.120 you do what exactly a solo tape so what precisely did you do

00:46:03.400 well i visited the grave you what i visited the grave paid my respect and then left

00:46:10.040 no but okay when well let's ask this a different way when you do something that is solo what does

00:46:16.040 that usually entail uh well me playing with myself i see

00:46:23.800 solo so you masturbated on a dead man's grave maybe

00:46:32.200 this is uh can we get to the part where you're a conservative can we get when we get to the

00:46:37.400 we get to the conservative part here so so here's what we've got so far from you madam de genmark so

00:46:44.440 far what we have is that you've masturbated on a dude's grave uh and this was after you were with a

00:46:52.440 guy and you went and had an abortion thus making it so that he would never be a father but it definitely

00:46:57.800 wasn't due to revenge of any kind even though he was cheating on you and then to boot your women's

00:47:03.320 women's lip fan uh completely pro-choice and uh yeah i'm i'm just really confused by your okay well

00:47:12.360 i think the guy didn't get both of his balls cut off only one of them sorry my language but oh is that

00:47:19.160 all nice yeah but like we thought it was both of them so he can still have children yeah yeah right but

00:47:27.240 you didn't know that no at the time you didn't yeah exactly so like so i mean i'm just trying to

00:47:34.040 draw the parallel here i think most reasonable rational human beings would think that if you

00:47:39.000 if you wanted to keep the baby you did not want to keep the baby you were sleeping with him you

00:47:42.200 claimed you're in love with him but he was cheating on you that that could be perceived as an act of

00:47:47.160 vengeance but he didn't want to be a father i think he would just like you said he wanted to keep the

00:47:51.400 baby yeah yeah he did but i how's that not wanting to be a father because i don't think he would like

00:47:56.600 be a father he didn't want to erase you thinking he wouldn't be a father is different than him

00:48:02.280 wanting to be a father did he want to be a father he just wanted to keep the baby so he can carry on

00:48:08.280 his legacy he didn't want to be a father like talking about adoption like was he wanting to

00:48:14.680 no he didn't want to give it away he wanted me to like he wanted to baby chop you basically right

00:48:20.120 yeah yeah yeah yeah hmm okay um and so it was it was solo though what you did on the grave

00:48:30.280 was it um was it a mausoleum or was it a tombstone no it was like stone yeah like just a plot of land

00:48:39.720 with a stone on top yeah yeah were there any like religious markings on it sometimes like graves will

00:48:46.840 have like either a cross or sometimes like a star of david no indicating the religion of the

00:48:52.920 individual was there anything like that no no but most of them are christian in that great what was

00:48:59.000 the uh i guess did he have a contentious relationship with his father i have no idea i didn't ask no no

00:49:07.160 no uh how far did you drive to the was the graveyard close by or did you have to go out of the way

00:49:12.280 it was close by where i used to live so i was in the neighborhood yeah are you what's the uh copenhagen

00:49:19.240 is it that's the capital yeah i don't live there okay um how much did he pay you yeah that was a good

00:49:27.000 question yeah that's what i was gonna ask next um how much 200 i think really yeah you did that for

00:49:35.000 200 200 200 yeah should i take more like was that cheap you sold your soul for 200 i mean definitely

00:49:44.440 too cheap for that oh i mean you shouldn't do it for anything but like if you're gonna do some crazy

00:49:49.400 shit man like that's at least at minimum that's in the four figures like so uh over a thousand well i can

00:49:57.480 redo because i i used to trap no i used to try i used to traffic in graveyard desecration what the

00:50:06.040 foot never sorry um in world of warcraft in world of warcraft yeah yeah yeah speaking of which guys

00:50:12.600 join the the whatever world of warcraft guild andrew here is just we're gonna get him we're gonna get

00:50:18.440 him to play a mage finally but uh guys knight slayer pvp anniversary classic realms um okay so

00:50:25.080 what did so you just masturbated basically on the grave maybe did you you didn't pee on it did

00:50:33.800 you no no never is that a crime that has to be a fucking crime no offense but uh no in denmark

00:50:40.920 it's not like the usa let me see if it hold on desecrating desecrating a grave site in many cases

00:50:51.880 it against it is against the law to deface or desecrate grave sites or human remains these

00:50:57.880 include removing grain stones leaving trash disturbing or tampering with a grave site

00:51:02.600 uh let's see many in many cases these are felonies hold on let me look up a california

00:51:08.520 statute on this california um defacing or desecrating grave sites it is a class h felony

00:51:16.680 without authorization of law or the consent of the surviving spouse or next of kin hmm that i think

00:51:24.120 is where the loophole is well this is for california she did that but technically she would have had

00:51:29.560 consent from next of kin to know it but it the california law continues by saying to knowingly and

00:51:38.520 willfully disturb destroy remove vandalize or desecrate any human remains that have been interred in a

00:51:45.160 cemetery hmm well a lot of people because i did a tick tock where i explained like i've locked the

00:51:53.400 whole day wait there's a tick tock of you at the cemetery yeah uh anyway i'll find it people called

00:52:01.480 the police on me and the police did nothing what the police did nothing yeah so i don't think wait

00:52:09.160 there were people around no no i did it at night yeah but somebody called the police on you so they

00:52:13.800 must have seen you because of the tick tock no no no oh after the fact i posted it like tonight i will

00:52:18.440 be going here and doing this and yeah uh can we are there any danish lawyers we're not trying to get

00:52:25.320 you in trouble i have it right here a desecration of the grave at denyark or denmark is considered a

00:52:30.600 criminal offense under the penal code with potential punishment including fines or imprisonment is

00:52:35.960 considered a violation of the respect due to the deceased and their families

00:52:39.320 um the specific details of law depend on the nature of the desecration but these it includes

00:52:47.480 quite a bit there's quite a laundry list of what the entailment of desecration is everything from

00:52:51.960 spitting on a grave to urinating on it to other acts that which are considered obscene

00:52:57.160 but didn't she get respect from the son like to be able to do that yeah i did kind of get permission

00:53:02.920 i'm not sure that a relative can give you permission to to desecrate a grave i think

00:53:09.640 that they can give you permission to do other things but i'm not sure that they can give you

00:53:12.920 permission so like what would be considered desecration if you went over and you like i don't

00:53:17.880 know x'd out a portion of the name or something like that without the family's permission that makes

00:53:22.760 sense why that would be considered desecration but i don't think a family member can actually give

00:53:26.680 you permission to like dig up the dead body and do horrible things with it or something like that

00:53:31.640 right i don't think that they can just do that i don't i don't i don't think that that's allowed

00:53:37.320 that is up that is up you should you wait but so question really quick uh did you

00:53:46.040 i don't know if this is current did you stop doing of no oh i thought but at one point you were

00:53:51.640 gonna quit yeah i got a lot of hate because i started on twitch and you know how the twitch

00:53:57.880 community is yeah they're pretty cool yeah yo shout out twitch what's up and then i started like

00:54:03.480 co-streaming with another and he has like a mental disorder and then people went crazy and

00:54:09.560 then it got too much did you do the mic clicking on twitch were you a mic clicker no no i didn't do

00:54:15.240 the mic clicking are you sure you didn't do any of the mic clicking oh do you mean asmr is that what

00:54:20.280 you're talking about yeah mic clicking i did uh i did a lot of that's it like real life stream

00:54:27.000 where you you do the asm you do asmr here you're a mic you're a mic licker not a mic here can you

00:54:34.200 give us what's the dem i don't know what that is can you demonstrate asmr yeah go ahead it's just

00:54:39.080 like mouth sounds right it's just like and then like and then you usually you have specially

00:54:45.400 crafted and you put parts of the mic in your mouth and no no no no in order to make certain

00:54:51.400 noises right you can also get the ears you don't put it in your mouth like

00:54:57.880 all right uh that is really cool i guess but not really um uh let's see

00:55:05.800 i'm just shocked about the grave thing that's fucked up man yeah you should probably what if

00:55:21.080 his uh what if his spirit haunts you now yeah man i think there's a curse on you yeah you have

00:55:27.480 you've been cursed i'll let him i let him like a danish curse yeah isn't that cool like that's uh

00:55:36.600 that is uh grognar's coming the kaiser donated two hundred dollars brian i better get some love

00:55:43.800 for this tts oh no i heard two hundred dollars can go a long way these days uh i will not desecrate

00:55:51.880 a grave but i will i'll do it for you i'll do it too no i will i will urinate on any democratic

00:56:02.840 political signs in and around santa barbara for 200 for 200 dollars i was getting he's getting

00:56:10.120 he's getting i will desecrate definitely joke it's a joke would that be is it yeah that's a big no no

00:56:17.560 no he's kidding is that no i'm totally kidding but is that um is that uh uh terrorism or what

00:56:27.560 no it's not no that's a specific criteria but it's politically motivated it's like a hate not a

00:56:33.960 hate crime but no it falls but it falls under i don't remember what the criteria is what is it

00:56:39.160 chat vandalism well yeah but it's i feel like it's uh i mean public urination is indecent

00:56:45.160 and exposure so that's at least one risk there yeah it's vandalism it would be it this would it

00:56:51.640 would be a conspiracy to commit vandalism right but it's like i think it's uh because it's political

00:56:58.920 politically motivated there would be like it would be worse i'm kidding by the way i'm kidding no what

00:57:08.040 he was talking about was that there was any alliance signs that the horde finds uh we will be taking those

00:57:14.680 signs down immediately that's all he's saying that's all i'm saying it's a joke guys i'm joking

00:57:19.480 i'm joking all right um i'll do it classic i'll do it for a bitcoin in wow classic just kidding i'm

00:57:26.840 kidding i'm kidding okay okay uh we have a message here cena you're in go ahead read it can we please go

00:57:31.960 back to the precise use of the english language chair one chair one you aren't you are not by any stretch

00:57:38.920 of the imagination of conservative traditional you're the epitome epitome of boundless degeneracy

00:57:48.680 degeneracy and immorality thank you for that i just want to summarize very quickly for you that he's

00:57:58.680 essentially saying that he thinks you're a horrible person yeah no i got that okay damn i didn't want

00:58:04.680 there to be any miscommunication after all he did spend 200 and it does go see if it goes that far

00:58:10.920 in denmark we should really be treating these super chatters a lot better i think what is a super

00:58:15.560 chatter the person that paid 200 to talk shit oh yeah super chatter uh yeah uh jj we can't pull it up

00:58:26.440 but thank you for the super chat man i appreciate it uh okay moving on then we have uh why don't we just

00:58:32.600 go right next riley here who just joined us you the topics you wanted to talk on age gap or actually

00:58:38.760 hold on before i get into that you said you've been single for one month correct have you had a rebound

00:58:44.920 no have you had any encounter whatsoever with a male or a female or are they them the past month yeah no

00:58:55.720 okay okay so you've been celibate for a month yeah good talk and you wanted to talk about age gap

00:59:06.760 relationships so the guy that um i just broke up with a month ago or it was mutual um there was a 30

00:59:15.640 year age gap relationship so age gap he was 57 and you're 27 yeah okay all right um

00:59:24.200 um you could have also maybe had a graveyard encounter

00:59:34.600 uh that's cool just kidding he probably had another 10 years or something um if i would have

00:59:39.400 stayed that would have been the end so uh is that the only time you've had an age gap relationship

00:59:46.280 um yeah the guy dated for seven years it was just like a year in between that how did you meet the uh

00:59:52.920 the gentleman um i was working at a casino at the time and he was just like sitting up at the bar

01:00:00.280 and he came and talked to me all right it was a monogamous relationship yes all right

01:00:10.280 it and uh so what did you uh what uh you were a car dealer or what were you doing at the casino

01:00:19.560 um serving serving yeah okay not so you weren't like a one of the server so i would go around with

01:00:25.800 like the drinks and everything that the bartender but you weren't like a dealer or like a game

01:00:29.640 no no no no okay and uh what uh what drew you to him besides his social security that he was gonna

01:00:39.400 get soon the so in the moment honestly it was it was my first day at work and i didn't really know

01:00:47.400 what i was doing and nobody was giving me real direction to what i was doing um he kept coming up

01:00:53.320 to me asking me all these questions and it just got to the point where i was like look if you want me to

01:00:58.040 get you a manager i will but like i don't know i don't know the answers to anything you're asking

01:01:03.960 um and he was just kind of like he was like no no no like i just wanted to i just want to talk to

01:01:10.840 you blah blah anyways we got drinks um after that like at a different location and we just kind of hit

01:01:18.120 it off but yeah that same day like later that night yeah did you guys smash no no no no cardinal

01:01:25.800 knowledge it was like three months into it three months yeah well like it was long he didn't he

01:01:33.400 didn't actually live in vegas it was long distance so but like so you guys hung out that time then he

01:01:39.720 left correct and then did you smash the next time you saw him in person no okay would he always come to

01:01:49.640 you or would you go to him it was a little bit of both is that do you normally make guys wait three

01:01:57.800 months or was that kind of um i think because he didn't have much time left i feel like you needed to

01:02:03.480 like hire that shit along you know i think because it was long distance that kind of made it

01:02:08.760 longer than what i would like naturally do but um yeah no the there was maybe like shouldn't it be

01:02:19.240 the opposite i feel like it's gonna be the opposite if it's long distance there was like three or four

01:02:23.560 we met up like three or four times before it actually happened i think it's got for long distance

01:02:30.200 relationships you that shit you gotta speed that shit up it's because it's one thing if you're like

01:02:36.680 see you can see the person almost at any given time if it's long distance your guys can only see

01:02:43.160 each other what once a month maybe you gotta be you gotta get the get the sex in while you can you

01:02:49.080 can't be we were we were both um we both just accepted that like we wanted to get to know each

01:02:57.800 other better and we understood that we couldn't do that as easily because it was long distance wait was

01:03:04.200 he so just curious on the whole waiting thing was was he like trying to hit and you're like nah nah

01:03:10.200 nah let's wait no it was mutual it was really yeah if anything i kind of i kind of came no no no he's

01:03:17.400 not gay okay all right you sure definitely not so you're saying he wasn't trying to have sex with you

01:03:27.160 no that's not what i'm saying like there was an attraction between the two of us but um

01:03:35.400 he appreciated like a build-up of like kind of waiting i guess you can say maybe because he's like

01:03:40.840 older little old-fashioned yeah old-fashioned yeah old-fashioned um and uh what have you ever had the

01:03:49.800 one night stand one time have you ever um hooked up your wait your uh seven-year relationship from

01:04:01.080 what age to what age was your seven-year relationship 17 to 24 how long did that guy wait

01:04:07.880 for the sex like a month and then have

01:04:16.680 have you had sex you know maybe second date third date maybe not one night stand but first date

01:04:23.800 second date third date the like on a third day yeah so what's the difference

01:04:29.880 like why do like some guys get to hit it immediately some guys get hit it early on

01:04:39.080 some dudes got to wait a month the seven-year relationship guy had to wait a month 10 year

01:04:44.760 or sorry 10 month relationship guy he's got to wait three months why like i just what what's

01:04:53.800 why the different differential here i mean the different situations just so for starters with

01:05:01.560 the seven-year relationship i was a lot younger um i was losing my virginity at the time and i was

01:05:09.640 kind of like nervous about the situation um and then once we broke up i kind of had like a revenge

01:05:17.880 one night stand and then after that i didn't really want to have any part in any type of like

01:05:23.800 sexual encounters after that um okay so then so then yeah the whole the three months thing with the

01:05:31.320 guy it was literally just because it was long distance and we both just wanted to like okay

01:05:36.280 get to know each other face to face before and kind of have like a sexual tension build up if you will

01:05:45.400 all right cool good times good times and uh you have crazy vegas bartending stories

01:05:53.080 coupled asked you for a threesome so i've had a co-worker and um customers have you taken no i haven't but

01:06:06.680 yeah the swingers okay uh i guess on the threesome thing has anybody here had the threesome

01:06:13.320 what it's not foursome you've had more than the threesome here do me a favor hold on so it wouldn't

01:06:25.800 be can you tilt your mic down oh there you go that's good okay so i i don't know if to technically

01:06:33.960 call it a threesome um it was i guess almost there no he was he was there he was very present okay um

01:06:44.840 present and crying though it was no no crying he was there was no crying involved at all it was just

01:06:52.280 that it like it never fully happened and then it was it we ended up just like both of us at the end

01:07:00.600 just for a second just to see how it feels okay just and so um then it turned out like he didn't

01:07:11.800 feel comfortable going through with it he pulled me to the side and he was like look i know you're

01:07:18.360 stupid drunk right now you might wake up tomorrow and look at me like why did you want to go through

01:07:24.120 because i was like let's i i want it and um he was like so it happened so that the girl ended up

01:07:32.760 leaving it just kind of like yeah and then we were together at the end and honestly i i'm glad it happened

01:07:39.960 the way it did because i'm pretty sure he was he was gonna be right in the morning i was gonna have

01:07:44.600 like regrets and seconds thoughts or even back then my mentality is different than it is now so my head

01:07:51.400 space where it was it was way out of sorts um i would have probably in arguments even if it was

01:07:57.800 like oh where's the remote i would have been like and you also let me let you have a threesome and

01:08:03.960 so i would have been bringing it up in his face probably so um yeah so that's why i say i don't know

01:08:09.800 if it definitely see how that would be his fault yeah yeah you see it's like because i as like a girl

01:08:16.200 i feel like no matter what even if it's like us we're saying like yeah it's okay no it's cool

01:08:23.320 we're always gonna throw it back in in their face in one way or another subconsciously i feel so

01:08:30.360 how dare that guy let you do that thing you wanted yeah like how did you let me let you do that yeah

01:08:37.400 we're gonna come back to some of the pre-show notes but we do have stifler coming in ask everyone

01:08:42.760 to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead i would say like a five

01:08:51.160 five okay cena i think i'm a five then what you what did you rate yourself last show an eight why did

01:09:01.080 you lose three points in 48 hours 48 yeah you're here on sunday do they use a different

01:09:09.480 system in canada what is it they count there's not time clocks they they count this you have a sundial

01:09:17.480 yes ah the sundial okay when the sun they use snow metrics the snow so listen so the you were here when

01:09:25.960 the pile of snow was here uh and now it's here yeah okay uh yeah so uh the snow yeah so you were an

01:09:38.760 eight yeah on sunday yeah now you're mid a five you're five how did that happen just personal preference

01:09:48.600 today yeah did you are you it's the makeup today your makeup's all fucked up yeah yeah you're so

01:09:55.960 right it's all um is it do you are you gassy is that it or no that could lower your point can i ask

01:10:06.600 because it seemed like you changed your answer based on her answer like you kind of compared um and so

01:10:13.240 like that was her own assessment and so i'm just curious why that would change for you based on what

01:10:18.760 what do you rate her then because you you're like oh she rated herself low i thought she must have

01:10:24.200 been this so what did you what would you have rated her i guess well i would like on my scale or her

01:10:32.360 scale well what would you rate her i would rate her like an eight okay yeah so you're like well oh if

01:10:40.440 she's a five then i must be no it's mainly the way that i look today i guess what happened

01:10:48.520 the makeup the makeup the may oh okay all right that's cool all right uh lost three points and uh

01:10:56.360 what about you five like what what did you rate yourself last time six why why the downgrade

01:11:02.920 because she's pretty as hell like what okay by the way what is that is that makeup or yeah

01:11:08.760 it's just drawing yeah but what's the symbol it's like a it's a spiral spiral yeah all right uh what

01:11:16.440 about you i'm gonna rate myself like no extensions lashes all that so i would say

01:11:26.440 seven seven and a half without without and then with

01:11:30.120 um i think when i was younger i would rate myself higher but currently like maybe only go up to an

01:11:39.880 eight eight and a half maybe eight and a half with all the stuff yeah and then when you were younger

01:11:44.840 like your peak or whatever the fuck um 10 i would say nine i can't get myself a 10 i would never rate

01:11:53.000 myself perfect and i had one time a guy told me i was a vegas 10 but an la nine a vegas 10 but an la nine

01:12:02.120 yeah okay what about you um i want to say on a good day of five and a half all right what about you seven

01:12:12.760 all right six all right seven i give myself a five andrew what about you

01:12:21.000 uh so since there's more realistic answers today i'll go with the actual one uh about a four

01:12:29.400 yeah not bad right yeah all right and then on this one though do you think you'll be better

01:12:35.800 looking in 10 years time so you're 23 do you think you'll be better looking at 33 i hope but i don't

01:12:42.760 think so no okay you're 18 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 28 yes 38 no

01:12:49.000 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 28 yes 20 years time at 38 yes 30

01:12:54.600 years time at 48 maybe not no when's the peak maybe high 20s high 20s okay you're 34 do you think

01:13:03.160 you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 44 no you're 34 do you think you were better looking at 24

01:13:08.840 no better looking now at better looking now at 34 versus uh 10 years ago at 24 yes didn't you say you

01:13:21.400 were a nine when you were younger yeah but i would say not all the way back that far in between 24 and

01:13:29.480 so like 28 28 yeah okay so better looking at 28 then you are now at 34 correct how about this uh wait

01:13:41.800 better looking now at 34 versus 18

01:13:47.400 better looking now and then how about well i'll just ask uh better looking at 28 or 18

01:13:54.120 28 okay uh you are 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37

01:14:03.480 uh to be quite honest i i honestly don't know i want to say there's a 50 50 no 50 50 yes if i have kids

01:14:14.600 my body might change so you don't have kids if i don't have kids yeah if i don't have kids i want to say

01:14:21.800 i'll look decent decent enough no the question is though will you be better looking better looking

01:14:29.560 like so you now and then in 10 years time it's hard um

01:14:35.880 i god that's

01:14:42.360 considering my eating habits and my just habits i'm gonna say just uh

01:14:47.960 uh probably probably yes i'll look better okay and because of the eating habits eating habits yeah

01:14:55.960 like i'm changing up i'm trying to get healthier and like trying to work on myself to look better

01:15:03.880 sure eating habits okay i have a question on that but uh and then you're 27 better looking now at 27 or

01:15:12.440 we're gonna go nine years back uh or better looking at 18 oh god no not at 18 better looking

01:15:19.080 at 27 better looking now 27 versus 18 okay and then going to you you're 34 better looking in 10

01:15:25.320 years time at 44 i hope so okay uh better looking in 20 years time at 54 i hope it just gets better

01:15:34.920 so but so you're saying you you think you'll be better looking at 54 versus now at 20 uh 34 excuse me

01:15:40.840 i think that will depend on what resources are available to me such as all kinds of different

01:15:47.400 cosmetic and athletic skin care athletic yeah like different workouts dietary we know so much more

01:15:55.080 about nutrition now than we did 20 years ago okay so um i think and you're talking plastic surgery too

01:16:03.000 some yeah okay so like lipo or botox or other i think it would depend on what i'm insecure about

01:16:11.720 at that point let's go 30 years forward uh better looking at 64 versus now 34 um again i think it

01:16:19.080 depends on what i'm willing to do at that point i yeah but i mean better looking i yeah i think my

01:16:26.840 audience changes right so who's who's the judge is it just me or is it generally right okay um

01:16:35.400 actually i'm actually kind of confused by that right but why would your audience change it's like

01:16:41.240 the same amount of 20 year olds as 50 year olds are going to see you now as they do in 10 years right

01:16:46.440 well no like i would consider like my judgment now is based on what my peers would consider and so i at

01:16:52.920 at 54 i'm also still going to be taking into consideration the opinion of my peers which

01:16:57.320 would be other people of the similar age so why wouldn't you take into account people who were

01:17:02.600 10 years younger than you i i mean i don't necessarily at what point are they not your peers anyway

01:17:08.840 like once you hit 20 or 25 are you just not appear with somebody anymore because they're 35 or 40

01:17:14.920 no i think there's a limit to that i think life experience can also change whether or not i consider

01:17:20.120 someone a peer yeah so i mean i don't know i don't know that your audience would change much

01:17:25.080 right it seems like it'd be basically the same people or the same same demographics who would look

01:17:30.760 for the attractiveness measure maybe a better way to put it is like how we judge attractiveness

01:17:36.200 changes by age so i personally feel i'm more attractive now a lot of that has to do with the

01:17:41.400 level of self-confidence that i have and so i don't think that i had that level of confidence at 24 and i

01:17:48.040 think that as you age especially as a woman you gain certain perspectives that only add to your

01:17:54.280 allure as a woman can i ask you a question then of course let's say that a guy had the option between

01:18:00.840 two 24 year old women and one was a drop dead knockout she was gorgeous but she was really shy

01:18:06.360 and bashful and didn't have much confidence and the other one was really not very good looking at all

01:18:10.520 but she was a boss babe who do you think you would prefer

01:18:15.800 um me personally you said she's not attractive at all like not you personally what do you think the

01:18:21.400 guy would prefer i mean

01:18:27.480 i think it would depend on the guy right like what are what are his goals just your average

01:18:31.720 most of your average guys right just on average what do you think which one do you think you would

01:18:35.560 prefer i mean i think he's gonna go with the prettier one yeah exactly so the thing is is like

01:18:40.520 if that's the case and i would agree with you right i think that that's a reasonable assessment to make

01:18:45.400 then what the hell does confidence have to do with anything like if we're asking for the for a physical

01:18:49.960 metric of beauty and that's what we're after they also often i hear women say well but i'm a lot

01:18:56.200 more confident now than i used to be when i was prettier but i don't actually understand that

01:19:00.120 answer because it really doesn't have anything to do with the metric of the question of physical

01:19:03.000 beauty does it i think that the confidence piece comes from being comfortable in the position that

01:19:10.440 we don't get dressed up for the boys we get dressed up for ourselves and for the girls

01:19:14.520 and i understand the confidence portion i get i get the confidence where i understand what i'm

01:19:18.840 saying though is that if we're asking for just a purely beauty standard just to physical be like

01:19:24.600 confident somebody would have to talk to you they'd have to they'd have to know you that you know

01:19:28.840 so that would have to come into play there'd have to be an interpersonal dynamic

01:19:31.960 but what about just somebody looking at you i feel like i can determine whether a person is

01:19:36.440 confident or not by looking at them what not always i don't think not all not always but if

01:19:42.920 you are observing a person looking for whether or not they are confident you can tell by their body

01:19:47.960 language yeah i mean you get three seconds you're walking down the street right the guy's walking past

01:19:52.600 you he's got two seconds he just takes a look right oh she's good looking or she's not they're like

01:19:58.120 they're not like they don't you know he makes eye contact goggles and they're like they're looking

01:20:02.520 through their magnifying glass at you for and observing you for multiple minutes right they're

01:20:07.160 just like walking past you you're not going to know what your confidence level is there maybe i think

01:20:12.040 it's pretty easy to determine if they make eye contact they're confident if they're not looking

01:20:16.040 at you and they kind of avert immediately then they're kind of shy that's a pretty easy indicator

01:20:21.880 for me there can be women who walk with a certain gait let's say they walk with like a certain

01:20:26.360 way that they that they do it uh where you could think they're very confident and then you talk to

01:20:30.680 them and they're totally not they're like you know and they're kind of sheepish and this type of thing

01:20:35.080 at all i don't even know if we could judge confidence just at a look uh but even if you

01:20:40.840 could even if i were to grant that there's some cases where you can judge if somebody's confident or

01:20:45.560 not confident in some cases just if we're looking at it on average i think that most people can

01:20:50.760 determine physical beauty in another person at a glance like it doesn't take much just look over

01:20:55.800 that's all you need right to know if they you think they're attractive or not attractive

01:20:59.800 so you're just going off that purely physical metric uh when we ask you know between one and

01:21:05.320 ten that's really what we're looking for it's like in ten years at a glance is the average guy when he

01:21:10.920 looks over going to think that you're better looking at this point in your life or at that one

01:21:16.760 i understand we're gonna we're gonna get the rest of the answers from uh everybody uh you are 27 better

01:21:22.040 looking in or wait hold on i don't did i get all the no i don't think i finished here hold on uh

01:21:28.840 you said better looking at 64 30 years than 34 yeah depending on what procedures i might have yeah

01:21:37.480 um okay and uh what about 40 years time at uh probably cap at that point okay and when would uh

01:21:52.600 when's the peak peak will be between 34 and 44 34 and 44 okay so you have not hit your peak yet

01:21:59.080 correct correct okay and then going back 10 years time were you better looking at 24 than you are now

01:22:06.520 at 34 no and then were you better looking at 18 than you are now at 34 no okay going to uh you you're

01:22:16.120 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 no okay and then you're 27 were you better looking at 18 than

01:22:25.320 you are now at 27 no oh okay do you think you're currently at your physical peak i would say maybe

01:22:32.760 like 24 so three years ago okay and then you're 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 uh no i

01:22:41.560 believe that i've already hit my peak probably around four five years ago so 22 23 yeah i don't think

01:22:47.960 anybody reaches their peak after the age of 30 in my opinion okay fair fair fair um how old are you

01:22:55.320 again 27 you'll think differently later i mean what do you mean what do you mean she'll think

01:23:03.080 different differently like as in terms of she'll cope no i just think as you get older especially as a

01:23:09.720 woman and you look back and reflect on your looks later you that drastically changes that's why i can say

01:23:16.600 now that like i peaked at 28 because i can look back and say like oh sorry that like i made a lot

01:23:24.680 of changes in my appearance as far as like even just little things as things i would do with my hair

01:23:30.040 or my makeup that make me look a lot better that i learned over years when you're really young you're

01:23:35.560 kind of just doing whatever trying to figure it out different hair color different hair cut like so i

01:23:42.120 just think i think that's reasonable to say if you're talking about a four-year stretch like 24

01:23:46.360 to 28 okay yeah that's fine but i think it becomes cope when you're 32 33 and you're like no when i was

01:23:52.280 24 i was way better looking now what we're asking for is like you're just seeing a picture of a person

01:23:57.320 right that's it you're looking at their 24 year old picture and you're looking at the 34 year old picture

01:24:02.840 what do you think the average person would find more attractive the 34 year old version of you or the 24

01:24:08.600 year old version of you the average person yeah i think 34 year old me okay erroneous erroneous um wait

01:24:21.000 but so how about this i wouldn't say that sorry i wouldn't say that now about me at 28 or 29 i think

01:24:31.800 i was far better looking at 28 and 29 than i am now and i also think i was far better looking at 28 and 29

01:24:37.240 than i was at 18 or 19 so that's why i'm saying like and i like peak for me varies on the woman

01:24:45.560 your everybody's peak is different um for your physical appearance in my opinion but what if we

01:24:50.920 adjusted for this let me ask you this question have you had any sort of cosmetic enhancements absolutely

01:24:56.600 yeah yeah so let's pretend that you're 19 years old and had the same cosmetic enhancements you have

01:25:01.320 right now and now we're looking at the same picture of you at 34 versus 1920 same cosmetic enhancements

01:25:08.200 which one's which one's prettier definitely when i was younger 24 yeah so then the basic idea here

01:25:15.400 is that you're using cosmetic enhancements in order to enhance a youthful standard for beauty that's

01:25:22.360 what's going on and if you had those same cosmetic enhancements when you were younger you'd be prettier

01:25:26.360 younger right yes yeah so so then i think that that's why people get so confused by the answer

01:25:35.960 of women when they often will say no i'll be a lot prettier in 10 years because they're banking on

01:25:40.440 cosmetic enhancements in order to kind of keep their youthful look that makes sense yeah that makes

01:25:47.640 sense uh i still think it's okay i don't necessarily think that all of the cosmetic enhancements that i have

01:25:57.560 now would look good on me that young no um so i still think that that could be different like um

01:26:05.320 well which ones which ones would have looked worse um i i fundamentally have the same bone structure same

01:26:12.200 height same everything right um yeah i mean i guess cosmetic surgery like i don't necessarily

01:26:19.720 think all the work i had done on my body would have been appropriate at 18 i don't think it would

01:26:23.720 have looked better i think it would have looked ridiculous but i grew up and then was able to like

01:26:28.440 determine what i felt like would be best looks wise as i got older why would it have looked i don't think

01:26:35.160 even if i had all the things i had done right now i i'm taking back what i said i don't think i would

01:26:40.840 have been more attractive at 18 with all of the cosmetic procedures i've had now i don't no so so

01:26:47.560 let's say it's 20 years old same exact cosmetic procedures what about your 20 year old self would

01:26:53.400 look worse i guess it's more of an appropriateness to me like i no no not appropriate not context none of

01:27:06.200 that just two pictures 20 year old you you you at the age you are right now or 34 same cosmetic

01:27:13.240 enhancements why does 20 year old you look worse i i just don't i don't know i can't i guess it's hard

01:27:22.280 for me to see my 18 year old self how i look now with the cosmetic enhancement so i guess it's just hard

01:27:30.520 like um i don't know how to articulate what i'm trying to explain but i don't necessarily think

01:27:39.560 if i did all the things i do now that i would look better when i was 18 at all i did all the things i do

01:27:45.880 now you know only in the last few years so that wasn't until i was in my late 20s and that i started

01:27:54.520 making a lot of cosmetic changes but i just i just that's me personally like i don't think that me with

01:28:02.600 this size boobs and this size lips and all the things that i do now would have looked good on

01:28:08.360 me at 18 yeah but why not though i just think it would look ridiculous i think it's also because

01:28:14.840 you grow like grow into your adult features like same like me at 18 i wouldn't do all of that but

01:28:22.280 me at 20 24 i would do those because i look more mature

01:28:29.800 because you're trying to capture a youthful appearance right

01:28:35.960 big boobs don't make you like more youthful yeah well i mean do you associate saggy breasts with

01:28:42.040 old people or young people both no you don't associate them with both you associate absolutely

01:28:48.600 i've seen lots of young girls with saggy boobs we associate perky breasts with younger women

01:28:54.440 yeah everybody everybody does everybody associates that and here i can i can demonstrate it for you

01:29:00.600 most women when they go out in public they wear push-up bras why

01:29:06.520 how come i guess to appear like they have pushed up boobs yeah why do they want them to look like that

01:29:13.880 why do they want them to look like that why do they not them to want that doesn't they they don't

01:29:18.200 want bigger boobs to make them look more youthful though they want bigger boobs to look more voluptuous

01:29:23.000 doesn't necessarily make them appear bigger it makes them appear perkier higher right and so we

01:29:29.560 associate that with youth if that's not the case then why do you wear push-up bras for i don't wear

01:29:33.960 push-up bras i know but women when i'm talking about women not you as in you specifically but just

01:29:38.840 women in general they wear them non-stop all the time why do you think that they use push-up bras

01:29:44.280 i think especially when they're going to show cleavage what's what's the purpose

01:29:49.000 i think we would yeah cena what are you coming at me for no it's just like i don't know i was just

01:29:54.760 asking what you thought because you've been kind of quiet so it's it's to like show that you have

01:30:00.360 bigger breasts not in general to show that it's perkier it's to make them look bigger that's what i think

01:30:06.680 it's to make to meet the beauty standards

01:30:11.560 so it's not to make them it's not to make them look perky huh no okay

01:30:18.200 so a couple you mentioned diet and eating and that's gonna make you know change stuff and

01:30:24.520 certainly if you're a healthier weight that can definitely have an impact uh two questions on this

01:30:28.840 the first way if it was all about making them look just bigger why wouldn't you make them look bigger and

01:30:33.400 saggier what there's padding in the bra that like pushes it up and also there's also bras which will

01:30:42.520 push them down no yeah there are what yeah there are like women i don't know what exactly you're

01:30:51.880 referring to as far as a bra that pushes them down like the only thing i can think of that pushes down

01:30:55.960 as you wear a strap over to hold them down or you there are yeah there are like that's not but

01:31:02.200 generally most i don't look i don't know i'm not a cosmetic expert okay but my understanding is that

01:31:07.880 these bras do exist but that does not seem to be what women opt for they seem to opt for the they

01:31:13.080 don't in other words i don't see cosmetic enhancements on women where they're trying to

01:31:16.520 make their boobs look saggy ever well you're saying they're pushing them down so then what are they

01:31:21.160 doing how come if it's just about size they don't want them lifted the bigger your boobs are like

01:31:27.080 then you have more cleavage in whatever bra you wear like it it's to make them seem rounder and bigger

01:31:33.960 that's why women wear push-up bras you don't wear push-up bras and you just heard from several of us

01:31:39.000 that it is to make them appear bigger and rounder yes perkier in like that that's part of it but it is

01:31:45.560 to make it look bigger and rounder and fuller cosmetic all the cosmetic enhancements seem

01:31:52.520 to be on par with a youthful appearance not an older appearance not designed for

01:31:58.280 a mature look on women but designed for a youthful look on women i don't know is a bbl necessarily youthful

01:32:07.160 i don't even understand that phenomenon that's some that's some but that's the phenomenon it's

01:32:11.720 a beauty standard that's some weird bizarre phenomenon that that uh people get into there's

01:32:16.840 all sorts of fads that happen like this uh inside of society that i don't actually understand uh bbls

01:32:23.080 don't look good on anybody they've never looked good on a single human being who's ever had one

01:32:26.600 and they're never going to but that aside uh when i'm when i'm talking about when you're talking about

01:32:31.320 things like boob jobs and this type of thing it seems like they definitely want them to be perkier

01:32:35.720 not less perky it seems like getting the getting the appearance of sagginess out of the picture

01:32:41.080 seems to be priority number one okay my point being is that bbl is to make you rounder and

01:32:48.600 bigger just like push-up bras are to make you rounder and bigger and more voluptuous and that

01:32:54.360 is a cosmetic procedure that is not to make you look more youthful you could say botox is to make you look

01:32:59.400 more youthful you could say skin care facials are to make you look more youthful but not necessarily

01:33:05.560 boob jobs or bbls or push-up bras they're not to make you look more youthful you could see a woman

01:33:12.360 you could see a woman who's 55 years old and has number one women's number one response for why it

01:33:18.120 is that they get a boob job is because they feel like their breasts are sagging no it's because they

01:33:23.720 want bigger boobs yeah i would agree that it's because they want them bigger women might wait until

01:33:28.840 hang on hang on hang on that also happens i'm giving you the number one answer that i'm looking at here

01:33:33.480 is because they want them lifted or just bigger i had nothing when i got mine done and i wanted

01:33:40.840 something yeah i understand but you guys are young right that's true that you that now younger and

01:33:45.240 younger women are having them done that didn't used to be the case especially and even now it's still

01:33:50.280 in the age bracket 30s when they're most commonly done that's the number one answer given but isn't

01:33:54.600 that after children when they're just flat yeah and what would we associate if you after children

01:34:01.480 what happens with the breasts they get saggy and that's right they get it so right exactly so

01:34:08.200 you want them to look more youthful so you do what

01:34:12.840 put stuff in it yeah you may you perk them up right that's what that's what the goal of that is

01:34:18.280 or at least it seems like that that's the case to me i'm sure that there's women who also have

01:34:22.200 small breasts who want to have larger ones i'm not disputing that i'm just saying that it seems that

01:34:27.000 the number one reason is for the purpose of youthful appearance at least if we associate

01:34:31.880 perky breasts and not saggy breasts with youth which i think most people would i feel like it just

01:34:37.320 depends on what you're you know getting them for like yeah older people i agree with andrew you know

01:34:44.280 to make them look less saggy and then younger people you know nowadays they get it to make them

01:34:49.640 look bigger so i feel like it goes both ways well women have always gotten them to look bigger too

01:34:54.440 i'm just giving you in the course of answers if we're looking at the respondents and surveys who

01:34:58.840 say why did you have this done i'm just telling you what the number one one i'm not saying that uh

01:35:03.240 enhancement and also by the way a big one for uh breast augmentation surgery now is reduction

01:35:09.240 in size that's uh that's a massive thing that's uh that's been happening over the last

01:35:14.040 five six seven years uh so you know there's there's that too i'm just i'm just pointing out what

01:35:19.640 the answers are when women are surveyed for why they want to do this most women don't get a reduction

01:35:25.880 because they don't want to look youthful or it's normally talking about a breath i'm not talking

01:35:31.480 about the reasons for breast reduction i'm talking about the reason for breast enhancement yeah but

01:35:36.200 then you bring up breast reduction as if that's a relative like i'm just trying to hear it trend

01:35:41.960 no no i'm just trying to tell you the trend of right now there's a trend where younger and younger

01:35:46.680 people are getting breast surgery that's true right but it's good the trend's going both ways

01:35:51.800 for both enhancement and reduction but my i was just trying to say that reduction is generally

01:35:56.440 because of health issues or pain that you suffer your neck your shoulders your back i know just saying

01:36:02.680 but a lot and the only women i know that have gotten reductions is because of that reason is that

01:36:08.120 because they deal with pain from that or issues from it it's not because they decided they don't

01:36:12.920 like them i'm not just but i'm not disputing any of that and so it's just it's just not i'm just

01:36:17.240 trying to explain the trend that's all i'm not trying to give you the reasoning for why they have

01:36:21.240 reductions um i i haven't looked up all the answers for why they have reductions i would i would guess

01:36:26.600 also there's a fear of breast cancer and many probably many other reasons that women would cite for

01:36:31.560 this uh but when i'm talking about enhancement or why most of them are getting boob jobs it seems

01:36:36.440 that they want to maintain the youthful appearance at least from my perspective and most cosmetic surgery

01:36:40.920 is not designed to make you look older it's designed to make you look younger

01:36:46.200 you could say a bbl perhaps isn't but a bbl seems like it's a fad cosmetic surgery not like uh there's

01:36:52.280 some timeless cosmetic surgeries like a nose job boob job i mean i could i could again say i don't think

01:36:58.360 that um oh i lost my train of thought listening to you sorry go ahead no no it was your turn i'm sorry

01:37:07.000 i was done talking i i it just down the river of thoughts so okay no worries i uh andrew what do

01:37:14.680 you think would be the kind of if there if there was and i don't think it even if there is well

01:37:19.880 there maybe is but it's certainly not as prominent or as frequent what would be the equivalent male cope

01:37:26.040 like balding like if guys started coping oh yeah women um no no i wear a toupee for my friends i was

01:37:34.360 gonna say in here yeah women i learned to pay for my friends the less hair the less hair i have the more

01:37:42.120 attractive women like is that the cope would that the be the cope no it's like the bigger my beer belly

01:37:48.280 the more attractive women find me i don't need i don't know if that matches on as close

01:37:55.720 it could be penis size like oh yeah women love my three incher i mean height i think height would be

01:38:03.880 it right so men get if if a man were to say that they were getting uh surgery to increase their height

01:38:09.560 and there are men who do that it's super dangerous but they do it um and they were to say i'm just doing

01:38:14.920 that for my pals uh i think we would say that that's uh that's cope we would be like bro you're

01:38:20.440 not getting your height increased because you're buddies you're getting your height increased because

01:38:24.600 you want to be more attractive to the opposite sex no i'm not saying i'm not saying that the

01:38:29.160 comparative cope for the whole like i wear makeup for myself i do xyz for the for the women i'm saying

01:38:36.920 the cope about i'm gonna be better looking when i'm older i think the comparative like what is the

01:38:42.680 comparative cope there insofar as women's unwillingness to acknowledge that typically

01:38:49.160 speaking they're going to be the most attractive and most desirable by men in their early 20s that's

01:38:56.840 actually a really good question i'm sitting here racking my brain like i can't think as many men as

01:39:01.320 i've talked to in various panels about these these topics they're just they just kind of cop to it

01:39:07.160 immediately they're like uh yeah of course i was a stud when i was 21 and now i'm you know 45 and

01:39:13.720 i got a beer gut and blah blah blah right so they they seem to be they seem to just kind of be honest

01:39:19.640 about it i don't know they i haven't really heard much in the way of maybe some of them cope but i

01:39:24.680 haven't heard much of it oh so i guess men when it comes to like them aging i don't know if it's like

01:39:29.560 totally similar though because i think there's differences between i'll have i guess i'll have more

01:39:34.120 money that could be the big one i was about to say i'm sorry like i'll be able to offset it with

01:39:38.680 money i'll be able to offset my bad looks i'm sorry for like interjecting like that but i was gonna

01:39:43.240 say i think that's the only option unfortunately that's left for men i literally had a conversation

01:39:50.200 the other day with one of um i was in an uber and um this dude who had a whole company had everything and

01:39:59.560 stuff was going down and he was very openly and honestly admitting to like yeah and i know i'm like

01:40:05.240 gonna end up with like nobody by the time i'm like getting older so i'm just building a foundation for

01:40:10.920 myself and become super rich and i'm gonna get myself a young girl give her everything

01:40:17.240 after after having heard you say that i can't actually say that that's cope because it seems

01:40:22.840 like it's the opposite of cope so he's going okay long term right i definitely know i'm not going to be

01:40:28.520 more attractive i definitely know that so i'm going to have to hedge my bets properly with one

01:40:33.880 thing that i can give to the opposite sex that they'll really like that sounds like the opposite

01:40:37.720 of delusion to me but then the girls take advantage of that that's the problem and then we end up with

01:40:43.240 girls that feel the entitlement of like this is why we have so many women that are like well yeah of

01:40:51.880 course i'm supposed to be treated like this and given all of this yeah i think i don't i think

01:40:56.920 that some men can be taken advantage of right but if the entire dating strategy that you have is i'm

01:41:03.160 really ugly but if i'm rich i got a shot at good looking women then basically the goal is to make

01:41:09.240 yourself a gold mine for a gold digger right yeah isn't that basically what you're doing yeah that's

01:41:15.160 straight up what i told him i'm like so you're basically gonna look for a gold digger and he was like

01:41:19.080 and and they're very like some dudes i've noticed i'm like it's kind of shocking i guess well to me

01:41:24.920 at least i'm like they're like well yeah yeah i'm fine with that as long as yeah i don't even know how

01:41:29.960 that's taking advantage though if he's expecting it if he's like yeah i guess in my mind you know

01:41:36.120 taking it i guess for somebody who views it conservatively and actually views it as like

01:41:42.200 damn bro like you really gonna just let somebody like a girl really just take advantage of you that

01:41:48.760 way even though he's willing like you said he's letting it like so is it really taking advantage

01:41:53.720 at that point but i mean i mean i think that there's probably a lot of men who have a long-term

01:42:00.040 dating strategy based around the fact that they think that when they're older and have many many

01:42:04.840 more resources that they can be much more appealing to the types of women that they want i don't even

01:42:09.800 think that they're wrong so that seems like it's proactive and the opposite of delusion but rather

01:42:15.000 being proactive so that um they can basically stay in the dating market at an older age i do think

01:42:21.880 that it's a bit delusional though to hear 20 21 year olds say that they think they'll be just as

01:42:27.080 attractive when they're 45 or more attractive i think that that's wildly i mean i think that that's

01:42:32.760 crazy i mean they're granted there could be some who are i'm not going to dispute that but i mean the

01:42:39.080 overwhelming vast majority of women are not going to be more attractive when they're 40 versus 20.

01:42:43.640 that's that's just that's just insane i don't think it matters i don't know why anybody would

01:42:48.120 ever believe that like even women don't believe it go ahead and i don't think it matters how healthy

01:42:54.200 you try to stay too because like um you know like my looking at my mom and grandma bless our genetics

01:43:02.200 you know we all look really young for ages you know my mom looks super good for her yeah you do you

01:43:07.080 look super young when you said your age i was like no way really yeah i um yeah

01:43:13.480 i just that's the genetics that i have but even though you know if i am healthy at you know 10

01:43:20.360 years from now that doesn't mean i'm gonna look better you know compared to myself now you know

01:43:25.880 even though i could be healthy that what happens is i think you have a good point here i think what

01:43:30.680 happens is a lot of women hear this you're not going to be attractive at 45 yeah versus you're not

01:43:37.880 going to be as attractive at 45 as when you were 25 but i think they just hear you're not going to be

01:43:44.200 attractive at 45 and it's like that's not what anybody's saying exactly there's tons and tons of

01:43:49.960 40 45 50 year old women who are highly attractive it's just the comparison in age of to their 25 year

01:43:57.000 old self generally they're less attractive than that which makes sense it's youth right

01:44:05.480 it's what every cosmetic industry promises you they promise you a youthful look i've never seen the

01:44:10.600 this will age you quicker skin cream i have never never seen that marketing yet now going back to my

01:44:17.240 questions here so uh i forgot should i forgot one of them but um some of you mentioned dieting eating

01:44:27.160 i guess the question is all else being equal so assuming that everything that you could have it

01:44:34.200 either everything that you could have at 40 you could have at 20 or nothing that you could have at 40

01:44:40.360 you also similarly can't have it at 20 do you think uh those of you who said like the whole diet eating

01:44:47.880 thing i think it was was it you and you both of you um better looking at 20 versus 40 all else being equal

01:44:59.800 into the mics guys um i don't i want to say maybe at 40 i i kind of agree with what you said it kind of

01:45:09.960 doesn't matter really um because it doesn't the health like like yeah even if you do take care of

01:45:16.040 yourself right like as it you never know how you might end up like you're not gonna make yourself

01:45:21.400 look younger yeah exactly like i don't know exactly how i might look in 40 years so i could look

01:45:27.560 better than i do now in my 20s i'm 27 i could look better or i might just not i look so okay um and

01:45:36.120 before i get to that your answer i just want to make sure i understand the question all the way

01:45:40.200 so you're saying if we like if my 20 year old self kept eating the same way all the way until

01:45:46.440 i'm 34 and then 44 so not changing my diet uh hold on hold on oh because she's trying to wiggle

01:45:54.920 weasel out no i'm trying to understand the question i'm asking for clarity the the all the

01:46:00.600 your state of being in terms because you're you guys like to add shit on well when i'm 40 i'm gonna

01:46:07.640 be in the best shape of my life doubtful um i'm gonna be the most healthy i'll ever been or will be

01:46:16.200 doubtful i will have i will know how to do my makeup orders of magnitude better than i did when i was

01:46:24.200 younger i'll dress better i'll have botox i'll have plastic surgery i'll have all these interventions

01:46:31.720 what i'm saying is any intervention that you could have at 40 also in this hypothetical would have been

01:46:37.880 available to you at 20 in a day or alternatively none of the interventions that you plan or could get

01:46:45.560 at 40 none of those are also in this hypothetical available retroactively at 20 all else being equal

01:46:57.000 comparing how you look without makeup without anything at 20 your natural self at 20 and i'll

01:47:05.320 even say this would i think even be in favor towards the 40 but your body fat percentage remains the

01:47:14.120 same your body composition remains the same everything remains the same

01:47:22.760 are you better looking at 20 or 40.

01:47:27.720 personally i think i would be better looking at 40 only because i did not really feel like i

01:47:37.240 grew into my woman's body until like my late 20s what do you mean grew into your woman's like i don't

01:47:43.720 feel like my like hips really finished developing until i was 28 so i didn't feel curvy until i was 28

01:47:52.440 didn't feel curvy until 28 okay um

01:47:58.040 so even no cosmetic procedures whatsoever i like my body better at 28 than i did at 18.

01:48:04.040 so i would say 40 year old body is better than 18 because i didn't like so were you like anorexic at

01:48:10.600 20 or no no you were i was just more athletic so you you were more athletic than you are now

01:48:20.200 in different ways yes i feel like i have a more feminine figure now than i did at 18.

01:48:25.160 okay and so let me ask you a question um do you think uh most men would choose

01:48:33.400 40 or 40 year old you over 20 year old you i think in this scenario i mean

01:48:41.960 i can't say 40 because i'm not 40 but i think more men approach me at 34 than they did at 18.

01:48:46.680 really yes more when you say more men approach you like and are you out and about at similar rates

01:48:59.560 um not similar rates no because i'm not going out every weekend um wait do you have a kid or no kids

01:49:07.160 no kids anybody here have kids okay um so you do did you go out more often when you were younger or

01:49:14.840 more often now more often when i was younger and you're you went to college and all that yes

01:49:22.760 so just to be clear and you're 34 right or yeah 34 so you were in college pre-dating apps pre-social

01:49:29.640 media um no there's like facebook you know like early yeah that's how old i am

01:49:37.880 i mean this sounds as i'm 30 i'm 35 i'm your guys's age i find it very hard to believe i mean it could

01:49:50.360 be look there's uh the rate at which men are approaching women in public now compared to i'm

01:49:58.840 assuming 2008 to 2011 2011 2012 when you would have been in college most people have much more

01:50:09.800 opportunity to meet people in college

01:50:14.520 that's is this is this are you lying i mean are you just lying no i'm giving you my opinion you asked

01:50:22.280 me if i feel like i'm approached more you get approached more now at 34 after me too after dating

01:50:30.280 apps after social media we're like back then if you were a dude and you wanted a girl you had to go

01:50:38.280 out and get her you had to approach now dudes can hop on instagram they can hop on a myriad of dating apps

01:50:45.480 i find it hold on let me ask what if she's just more attractive now i mean it could be geographic

01:50:53.480 too hold on i'll let you give the clarity but one sec it could be geographic insofar like maybe now you

01:51:01.640 live in vegas and before you lived in a thousand person town that's the only scenario like your geography

01:51:08.680 changed otherwise there's no way girls are getting approached more now than they were pre-dating apps

01:51:18.120 pre-social media but go ahead go ahead explain it i think that maybe the misconception here is that

01:51:23.880 like you think i'm getting like the dm contacts and i don't really have that engagement because i'm

01:51:28.360 talking in person i'm talking in person yeah so in person i feel like i'm certainly approached more

01:51:33.960 in person when i'm out now compared to you and compared to me your yourself at like 18 to 22

01:51:42.600 yes okay well look i don't know your experience i'll go ahead and granted it's a confidence now

01:51:49.720 perhaps i shouldn't have even engaged in this i would just say that's not necessarily like just

01:51:54.440 because you get approached more isn't even necessarily evidence that you're more like that

01:51:59.320 that that means you're more attractive because we've all heard stories for example of like if

01:52:05.640 there's girls at the club like it's actually the average to cute looking girls that are going to get

01:52:11.960 a bit more attention than like the smoke show 10 out of 10 stunner because a lot of dudes are going to

01:52:17.480 see that really like really attractive girl and be like they're just going to disqualify themselves

01:52:23.480 they're not going to step they're like i can't get her she's too hot oh here's this average

01:52:28.360 chick let me shoot my shot not saying that's you but i'm i'm saying i mean i did rate myself

01:52:37.560 a seven so that's a pretty average but what i what i am saying is i don't think the fact it seems

01:52:43.640 dubious but i'll just okay fine whatever you get approached more now post me too post dating apps post

01:52:49.480 social media um i just i don't know man i think uh i think there is a something to be said for

01:53:00.520 just because you get approached more doesn't necessarily mean that makes you more attractive

01:53:04.680 so um in any case though so your position is uh all things being equal more attractive at 40 than 20.

01:53:13.880 yes and then for you yes and then for you more attractive at 40 than 20 into the mic yes i want to i

01:53:23.480 want to say it's a 50 50 um right now i would say that i'm i'm i feel like i'm at my peak like

01:53:34.840 considering my from where i was in my teens and stuff um but yeah like i said considering that the

01:53:42.920 fact that i feel personally in my teens i wasn't as approachable as attractive um and now in my 20s i

01:53:51.880 feel more attractive myself personally i feel more confident in myself to say like oh yeah i think i am

01:53:59.080 pretty and not feel weird about it maybe like once i hit my 40s then i'll be like oh okay cool i am

01:54:05.960 you know maybe not to everybody but but like i said who knows i might have yeah so so yeah so you

01:54:10.840 i mean you mentioned confidence you mentioned how you feel uh what does this have to do with how you

01:54:16.760 actually look yeah that's why i said like i might have kids and stuff so no everybody else's eyes

01:54:22.040 no no not what i'm talking about how does how you feel or your confidence or your security or i

01:54:29.960 suppose lack thereof have anything to do with how you actually look if people swipe you on tinder

01:54:36.440 they don't see what you're feeling this year looks you're right yeah i know you're absolutely right

01:54:43.800 so let me take out my instagram for me let me take out my how i'm viewing myself and my

01:54:51.960 feelings out of it yeah so i guess right now realistically yeah right now my 20s that would

01:54:58.120 be my my most attractive uh scroll to the very bottom on my instagram all right i've gained weight

01:55:04.920 let's put scroll down hide the tts thing scroll down is that thing this up uh click on the the

01:55:14.840 one where i'm like zipping up my wetsuit click it okay scroll down uh x out of that scroll up a little

01:55:24.280 bit what about oh yeah the little tank top one there you go okay so i was like i was like 10 i don't know

01:55:33.480 i was fit i was fit chapstick chapstick looking for my chapstick traffic traffic looking for my

01:55:41.160 chapstick where did that just no one's seen that movie pop culture what what do you what do you mean

01:55:48.200 it's uh miami vice i think it's probably no it's malibu's most wanted but where did it come from

01:55:53.960 it's like why did you just wear in the the do-rag the fucking tupac yeah the white speeder you kind

01:56:00.200 of look like uh so anyways um i was uh i would say back then even though i think retrospectively

01:56:11.800 i was in insane shape i had a little bit of love handle a little bit of love handle i had like

01:56:20.600 visible six pack and i felt i felt insecure about my body i was like man i gotta lose that little one

01:56:30.120 percent body fat and i could be a bit more muscular here and there right

01:56:38.200 regardless of how i fee felt objectively i was in better physical shape and i looked better when i was

01:56:45.800 young so tech even though i'm a lard i'm fucking lardy as fuck now and i i actually don't give a

01:56:52.760 fuck anymore uh i in some ways i was more insecure insecure and less confident when it came to looks

01:57:03.960 then now i just don't fucking care that doesn't change the fact it has anything to do with how i

01:57:10.440 actually look and objectively i was better looking then yes measured by my body fat percentage and my

01:57:20.120 how muscular i was and my fitness etc so you guys are just coping no it's all code how you feel

01:57:27.880 is irrelevant that could just be like you bloomed earlier because some people bloom later right

01:57:34.440 and also i would and i would argue that i you had a girl on a different episode and you brought this

01:57:40.280 same like topic up and you showed your photos and she was like oh you were so hot when you were young

01:57:45.480 blah blah blah um but i would argue the opposite i find you far less attractive in those photos like

01:57:51.880 truly yeah women are different though so the difference here is is that women typically prefer to date men

01:57:58.680 uh like around their age range i'm like your weight your weight looks better to me uh i mean i would

01:58:04.520 agree with that personally that's a women don't want a skinny man diet for a while yeah i know it's

01:58:11.080 crazy man it's crazy uh anyways i forgot were you saying something cena or no oh i thought you said

01:58:18.040 something i was gonna respond to you i do have a question though yeah what's up what's stopping you

01:58:21.880 from looking like that now uh um because willpower well theoretically like men are tend to stay better

01:58:34.120 looking than women as they get older like you see models men models who are like what 80 90 years old

01:58:40.760 compared to a woman who model and their prime is what 2030 so what's like what's stopping men from

01:58:50.440 looking better as they get older what do you mean i think men become more attractive when they get

01:58:58.760 older like the silver fox thing and women become like not better looking i think it has to do with

01:59:09.400 like women's hormones too like you know we all have hormones and our body changes as we get older too and

01:59:15.560 i feel like it doesn't affect guys as much yeah burritos burritos is what's stopping me from uh

01:59:24.520 looking like that i guess but i mean it's just comes down to fitness you know and uh anyways uh

01:59:31.320 let's see here we're gonna just move it on um i still i'm still trying to think what the equivalent

01:59:37.480 cope is in men like if men were just like yeah you know women prefer like below average penis size women

01:59:44.840 prefer like it would be like a guy because the thing is though i like when it comes to this

01:59:50.840 shit i feel like short men aren't coping about they're not like no they're not like uh oh pull up

01:59:59.320 can you go into the discord damien and find the meme of uh fuck what it's in the meme folder it's like

02:00:06.680 the yes i'm right ones it's probably at the i'll try to find it but do you have it pulled up

02:00:20.360 it's resources i think it's in the memes no it's not in the memes it's in the media folder it's the

02:00:26.920 the second to last one you are all wrong yes you're all wrong can you pull that up

02:00:35.560 i kind of think make uh yes you are all wrong and then what's the next one

02:00:41.800 yes you all are wrong it'd be like most short guys they're not like in denial about this detriment

02:00:51.400 they're like they acknowledge like yeah most women like taller guys they're not in denial

02:00:59.560 they're like they're not like no most like women really prefer five five manlets

02:01:08.680 over six foot plus like they're they're like no most women prefer the six foot guy

02:01:13.880 but some women can also be like yeah i know we get old and ugly you know and some sure women

02:01:23.880 have a different opinion yeah but most of the like we've asked this question to like probably

02:01:27.720 over like well over 100 women and like the amount of like oh yeah i'm gonna be there looking in 10 20 30

02:01:33.080 years it's like no offense ladies you're not but how would you know biology yeah

02:01:40.520 biology what they've they've pulled men they've pulled men like in terms of what they find most

02:01:49.480 attractive and like you on an individual level can't really dictate what because attraction is

02:01:57.560 something external like what are you attracted to like you i guess you could be attracted to yourself

02:02:05.720 i don't know what that's called auto something or something like some sort of sexual kink where

02:02:10.200 you're like you want to fuck yourself or whatever but it's like attraction is external so people

02:02:18.280 external to you determine what's attractive i agree with that and so for this reason uh

02:02:28.280 when and when it comes to female beauty males are typically the purveyors of this and if the vast

02:02:36.120 majority of men prefer women at 25 versus 35 or 25 versus 45 that's what is most attractive

02:02:48.760 i feel like a good comparison and correct me if i'm wrong because you're a man but i feel like maybe

02:02:54.280 like guys taking steroids to make themselves look you know stronger maybe that's a comparison

02:03:01.880 so are you saying like the like in comparison to like a girl getting a boob job to make them make

02:03:08.280 their to keep his youthful appearance he's doing steroids yeah wait so what is the

02:03:16.120 like something a guy could do yeah like women that's like not really natural yeah and oh guy

02:03:22.520 well look guys do all kinds of things i mean they get they take drugs for their hair they get hair

02:03:28.040 transplants yeah they you know that men are not immune to feeling deep insecurity about their

02:03:34.600 physical appearance that's not my argument my argument here is uh the cope when it comes to women

02:03:41.160 saying oh yeah i'm gonna be better looking at 45 than at 25 it's like i'm not saying women just to be

02:03:48.120 clear i'm not saying women can't be attractive at 35 45 that's not what i'm saying i'm saying you compare

02:03:54.200 a 25 year old woman and then age her 20 years she's not going to be better looking

02:04:02.600 but what we're trying to get is like some might be and i don't care about some i don't care about

02:04:08.680 some and actually you if all else is equal all else is equal like i'll grant to you for example

02:04:19.000 that a woman who is morbidly obese at 25 and then she falls into all kinds of money and she at 45 she

02:04:27.640 is like within the top percentile of of fitness of all women not just women of her age she's in the top

02:04:35.480 percentile of fitness and she's gotten i mean she was morbidly obese so she had to get all that

02:04:41.320 fucking uh skin or whatever removed the loose skin she she used to be a meth head and now she's not a

02:04:49.560 meth head and she eats super healthy and she's been super healthy for who knows how long maybe like

02:04:57.240 yeah she'll probably be more physically attractive but you compare a healthy 25 year old to a herself who's

02:05:07.240 still healthy at 45 you really think she's going to be better looking no so explain to me a scenario

02:05:16.840 where there's any woman who's 25 who looks better 20 in 20 years time i guess like like a woman who do

02:05:23.560 cosmetic surgery to make themselves look better well that's another thing i want to like okay natural 20

02:05:30.360 year old yeah healthy versus healthy 40 year old who has had every single possible cosmetic surgery

02:05:40.600 and she went to the best surgeons who charged the most and they did the best job ever not botched

02:05:48.280 she got every single thing that could have improved her appearance do you guys think the woman and look

02:05:56.360 not obese she's just like normal body weight percentage normal healthy whatever normal at 20

02:06:02.760 best plastic surgeon blast plastic surgery in the world 40. who's more attractive starting with you

02:06:09.880 the 20 year old or the 40 year old i would say the same same girl yeah i would say the 20 year old

02:06:16.680 because i think you know your physical your skin i think it's more plump and youthful when you're young 20

02:06:22.920 so 20 year old okay i would say that honestly it's about equal equal okay all right you're getting

02:06:33.880 plastic surgery to like look more conventionally attractive than probably when you're 40. okay

02:06:38.360 actually 20 okay 20. i think the 40 year old i'd say the 40 year old definitely the 20 year old

02:06:58.040 wait who said 40 year old was it i did yeah man you guys are crazy you guys are crazy

02:07:05.400 i mean do you guys ever you know what this makes me think of this this makes me think of this do you

02:07:12.360 guys even know what men are attracted to do you just not go through life ever considering you just

02:07:17.320 always this is women just think about what they want you never stop to think what men want and what

02:07:24.680 men find attractive you said do we think we will be more attractive in these amount of years not do men

02:07:30.040 think we will be more attractive in these amount of years so we answered based on our personal feet but

02:07:34.920 attractive to how we think we're attractive i've talked to a lot of guys about this topic and 99 of

02:07:42.040 them say that natural is you know what they prefer right nothing done to them and here here's where

02:07:48.840 you guys are going to get really upset the 40 year old natural woman beats out the perfect surgery

02:07:57.160 every every fucking beats out the fake 40 year old what if you can't tell though what if she doesn't

02:08:04.440 disclose it and you can't tell she's gotten surgery what do you mean she's i'm just going to point this

02:08:11.400 out i understand your question but uh for the most part this is not always the case but for the most

02:08:17.400 part we can usually tell if somebody's had cosmetic enhancements people's people's body shapes and uh and

02:08:24.920 this type of thing have to have certain proportions in order for them to look symmetrical enough for

02:08:30.040 you to believe that they are legitimate yeah i mean mainly facial not body but yes you're right yeah

02:08:36.840 but same with facial even even with face right you can often tell when someone's had a nose job or

02:08:42.680 various things like this maybe lips i could say lips but that's yeah i don't think you can tell a nose job

02:08:49.800 if it's done poorly then yeah yeah most of them aren't done well the older look i uh i don't know

02:09:00.440 it's just um it's just interesting to me how would you feel when it starts like going down like how you

02:09:08.120 said like once you get older especially because you said it was a 40 year old woman right when it's

02:09:13.880 especially in the face it'll start this is uh plastic surgeons say this themselves it starts like

02:09:21.000 melting down in the face that's why they have to keep going back and going back and going back then

02:09:26.600 you hit 50 then you hit 60 then you hit 70 now that 20 year old is now 30 or 40 and she looks great

02:09:34.360 and that 40 year old that invested all that money into that amazing surgeon is like still looks messed up

02:09:41.080 let me ask you guys this do you think if if we were to um if we were to pull men because you guys

02:09:47.400 have your own thoughts on this of course uh but if we were to ask men if they would prefer the 20 year

02:09:54.440 old who's natural versus if you were to fast forward time uh fast forward her to 40 with every like all

02:10:04.280 the best plastic surgery who do you think the men pick well does that for those of you who said

02:10:12.040 the 40 year old with plastic surgery more attractive than the 20 year old natural

02:10:16.600 who do you think men pick i think it was you i didn't say 40 i said 20 i'd say they put the 20

02:10:23.400 year old yes yeah i go men pick the 20 year old men pick the 20 year old why

02:10:27.560 for a variety sorry for a variety of reasons because she's more physically attractive well

02:10:35.800 i mean depending on the man that you're talking to they could be looking at her for physical

02:10:40.680 appearance they could be looking for someone to carry a child for them so that's obviously a more

02:10:45.640 prime candidate than a 40 year old so okay how about he he doesn't want to have children oh then he's

02:10:52.200 going for the 40 year old does that that's fun without the risk wait less fun without the risk

02:10:59.800 no i said that is fun without the risk wait what do you mean without the risk if he's not looking

02:11:05.160 to have a kid then he's going to date the 40 year old because she's closer to menopause they're both

02:11:10.840 then why all the rich men why do they all have in this hypothetical scenario he is not concerned

02:11:16.760 well that's what i said it has it depends on what the man is looking for okay the 20 year old has

02:11:22.520 her tubes tied the 20 year old has her tube if you can if you're going to add on that my first answer

02:11:29.000 was the 20 year old and then you added on something else and so that's what i know but you you said um

02:11:35.160 well what if he wants to have kids and i'm saying okay even the man who doesn't want to have kids

02:11:41.640 his priorities are going to be different than them than the man going for the 20 year old so there

02:11:48.920 is a man that would choose the 40 year old over the 20 year old is what i'm saying i'm not i'm not

02:11:53.400 asking you but most men oh my god yes the 20 year old and i answered that question first and i said

02:11:59.400 yeah there will be some men who pick the 40 year old what do you think most men would pick

02:12:05.240 again i answered that question the very first round and i said the 20 year old

02:12:08.840 okay because all right never mind but you know you started saying because of like so how about if

02:12:17.720 most men didn't want to have kids who would they pick

02:12:22.760 does the 20 year old still have a her tube side

02:12:29.160 okay there's no prospect of having children with either with either 20 year old then okay

02:12:38.840 all right what about you the 20 year old

02:12:45.000 because they're more physically attractive youthful physically attractive yeah dumber

02:12:54.760 all right um i'm gonna move on we've been on this one for a while now but uh okay we're gonna get

02:12:59.720 into uh katie you're a paralegal dancer escort only fans or you don't do escort anymore no oh i did for

02:13:07.480 many years though so and there's all like there's also lots of stuff that has been like shared or

02:13:13.480 stolen on porn sites but i've never done porn oh like all sorts of but you uh you reached out to us

02:13:20.040 october 10th so like um just what six weeks ago yeah and you said you do escorting well former i should

02:13:28.920 have put so how recently oh okay all right um but i still dance and i do like i wouldn't even say

02:13:36.680 only fans anymore it's totally like died out but i did for a few years uh you wanted to i guess one

02:13:43.160 disagreement you had with the show is that makeup and this is a point of mine makeup is deceiving and

02:13:48.600 changes what you look like uh and that i specifically put that because i like that day i watched an episode

02:13:55.080 where you guys discussed it and it was just something that was fresh in my mind like truly

02:13:59.400 i think if makeup i do think makeup can be used to be deceiving however i think you would have to

02:14:06.600 to go to extreme lengths to deceive i think you could wear like a standard amount of makeup and a man can be

02:14:13.320 able to tell how drastically different it's going to look when they you take the makeup off or wake up the

02:14:19.480 next morning right like so i it was just fresh in my mind there's many other topics you've talked

02:14:25.080 about that are can you pull up damian pull up that tweet it's the makeup tweet it should be already pulled

02:14:30.120 up and then there's a couple other things we can pull up here let me see what we have um

02:14:39.160 does anybody agree with her so my position is that makeup is uh deceptive lying anybody disagree with

02:14:48.120 that anybody else disagree anybody else i disagree disagree okay like 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50.

02:14:58.360 i would say it's a 50 50 kind of okay so can be do you have it go ahead uh it's very deceiving yes

02:15:12.760 i mean so that's that could be a dude on the left like that's what i would say is extreme like you are

02:15:17.480 very drastically trying to change your appearance so you are trying to deceive but i think a lot of

02:15:22.360 women wear makeup and they just kind of enhance their natural features and you could still tell

02:15:27.640 that when i take my makeup off i'm not going to look drastically different than i look now my skin

02:15:32.600 might not be necessarily perfectly smooth

02:15:38.200 who's willing to take off their makeup

02:15:39.960 i would take off my makeup i have no qualms you'll take it off we'll do it later on in the

02:15:46.840 show but okay you'll take it off i'll think about it all right who's wearing fake lashes i have

02:15:52.600 extensions so i can't take them off but you can't oh that does i can take them off that does a lot the

02:15:57.000 the the fake lashes does a lot of heavy lifting for women in general

02:16:02.760 just saying i could agree um oh we got an update on mason um i'm gonna get that sent

02:16:15.000 uh we will okay so you'll take your makeup off i literally have videos of me without makeup

02:16:21.240 well i don't know where to and there's probably like filters and no there's no we'll do it at the

02:16:25.160 end of the stream at the end of the stream so you guys don't have to like go the whole show

02:16:30.040 look at all of us how do you like how about all look in all the only episode that all of us

02:16:34.040 did she's like no thank you all right um yeah look i mean it just seems kind of the whole makeup

02:16:41.240 thing seems i agree with you that there's scales to it like a girl puts on a bit of eyeliner i don't

02:16:47.240 think that's like gonna substantially change men's appraisals of her attractiveness but women use a bit

02:16:54.920 more makeup powder foundation contouring fake lashes um there's all kinds of makeup techniques

02:17:03.880 that they can employ the amount of makeup they use the type like the or the the the i don't know what

02:17:11.000 it's called um absolutely but i guess it was just my my thing was like deceiving is intentionally trying

02:17:18.520 you know what i mean like to mislead someone and there are like that picture was a very great example of

02:17:23.800 where a girl used and went to great lengths to change what she looked like but i don't necessarily

02:17:29.800 think like if you took her makeup off it would really change what she looks like at all no but i

02:17:34.120 think makeup can be deceiving but not lying because you're not lying and be like this is my natural self

02:17:40.440 no yeah so i don't think i don't think i like it's maybe deceiving i mean the thing is though i a guy

02:17:48.440 could even be consciously aware like a guy can although i think there's like for example young

02:17:54.440 men are a bit more naive to it they don't have the requisite uh experience with women to like really

02:18:01.080 have a full-fledged idea of like the degree that makeup can change a woman um or there's guys who are

02:18:07.960 just perhaps older but even inexperienced but even if a guy is like has a good sense of

02:18:15.400 you know women's usage of makeup there is this sort of like attraction happens really rapidly

02:18:23.560 and it doesn't happen on the timeline of okay i've acknowledged i can see she's wearing makeup

02:18:32.280 and it attraction is instant so it can happen before the guys assessed the degree of makeup so you've

02:18:41.160 kind of like even if he like post attraction trigger has made a determination oh she's wearing makeup

02:18:47.880 you've already kind of elicited like his like his drive his attraction drive um in addition to that

02:18:58.600 many women on dating apps for example will never post a photo of them with that like without a any

02:19:03.640 makeup a lot of people may meet on dating apps uh on your social media profiles perhaps where men might

02:19:09.400 be meeting you sliding into your dms you're never posting a picture of you without any makeup you've

02:19:14.920 not really given you know the guy an opportunity to make an assessment of how you look without the

02:19:19.800 makeup but that's not the most important part if it if we're speaking on a relationship basis then of

02:19:26.680 course like your physical appearance is the number one on how you guys meet and get to talk but he

02:19:34.200 should also be attracted to a personality sure i i 100 agree so at least 50 50 i 100 agree but like

02:19:42.520 you you guys sort of like you guys sort of

02:19:49.160 cheat your way to getting the opportunity okay so would you because because it would be like me saying

02:19:56.760 well i had to lie to her that i'm an attorney but i actually work at mcdonald's so i could get my foot in the door

02:20:02.840 the door so she could see my sparkling personality because if it was not for my appeal to her superficial

02:20:11.000 interests then she would not have otherwise given me an opportunity ergo i had to deceive her on some

02:20:18.040 level guys do that they yes it's wrong 2016 but now they're like gained weight and older and right but

02:20:25.720 that's wrong or they you know there's other ways in which men will women care about looks too there's

02:20:30.520 there's ways men will lie maybe they lie about their height okay that's a good one if a man was

02:20:37.320 balding yeah and he wore a hat and he wore a tube or a toupee yes would you consider that deceiving or

02:20:44.600 is that just enhancing his natural face structure with fake hair i mean that's not what he actually

02:20:53.080 looks like wearing the toupee what about a beard if you were to shave your beard yeah i would look different

02:20:59.080 yeah so would you consider a beard i don't think no insofar as a beard is natural whereas makeup is

02:21:05.160 completely fake like you i could be on a desert island and grow a beard if you're on a desert island you

02:21:11.720 would not i mean unless you were weird you would not like start mining

02:21:15.720 material to slap on your face that's a survival situation um makeup is fake makeup is uh artificial

02:21:23.880 but girls look like that like when we go out in public we put on makeup so we're not lying because

02:21:31.880 we take our makeup off in the night when we sleep or if we are at home so like look i'll look like

02:21:39.240 this that's sure going back to the beard point uh i suppose like for example i'll grant that there

02:21:44.840 are men who maybe they have a weak jawline or a weak chin and they grow a beard 100 could be the case

02:21:52.600 wait wait brian isn't isn't shaving the beard the unnatural thing

02:21:57.960 sure shaving the beard would i suppose be the unnatural thing um so then the argument that

02:22:03.960 she's making that you're trying to hide something is the opposite right it's like that's the natural

02:22:09.160 state of things i sure i i suppose i but i think the bigger thing here is well then like how far do we

02:22:17.960 bring it when it comes to hair well i suppose uh everybody should just shave their head both men

02:22:26.600 and women and then we can because i think in the same way that a hairstyle on the man can make him

02:22:31.720 more or less flattering i think the same thing can be said for women uh in the same way with the beard

02:22:36.760 thing this applies to both men and women perhaps a man who's balding or a man who has a large forehead

02:22:41.480 same with a woman a woman could wear bangs a woman could cover the her five head or whatever the

02:22:47.960 fuck um i don't think styling and grooming is quite at the same level as makeup though in addition to this

02:22:57.960 this is an argument i frequently make i think when people are making appraisals or assessments of

02:23:03.160 physical appearance typically i think the top 50 of your face is going to be much more heavily weighted

02:23:13.400 than the bottom 50 percent of your face like from here up versus here down so look the beard can do

02:23:21.400 some lifting for people but uh when it comes about the teeth because i feel like teeth are a big thing

02:23:29.320 sure like if you're fucked up yeah somebody with nice sure somebody with nice nice teeth uh that can be a

02:23:35.800 factor that come that that uh gets put into one's physical attractiveness but i don't think you can make

02:23:44.120 comparisons to uh to beards when it comes to makeup but what about hair transplantation

02:23:53.000 like when you're balding and you just move your hair yeah no i i see that i you know the thing is

02:24:01.640 though is that i don't know it would be deceiving in so far as um

02:24:12.200 well the toupee one is interesting because that is not like that does not become a permanent thing right

02:24:19.240 so like he could take that that shit could fall off like you're a fucking and he it falls off

02:24:24.360 he's bald what the fuck or some shit but like uh that'd be funny the interesting thing though

02:24:31.320 even with the toupee but to your point like the hair transplant is that a man could like

02:24:38.200 men into their 40s and 50s can still have a fantastic hairline and a full head of hair

02:24:43.480 hair so the hair transplant is perfectly mimicking something that exists either in one's youth or

02:24:53.480 exists for other men hold on or exists of men of that age or um can can exist naturally independent of

02:25:06.040 uh for other men or for when he was younger no woman no woman the fake lashes no the boobs hold on hold

02:25:19.320 on no woman when it comes to the fake lashes has natural lashes that look like fake lashes no women

02:25:28.440 have has eye line no woman naturally has black marks around her eyes no woman naturally has uh

02:25:37.080 like lipstick and all that no right um so the hair transplant one and the boob one because women if

02:25:49.000 they had well okay go ahead but i have a response yeah if they had like perfect boobs and then they get

02:25:56.120 children and they become flat and saggy and then they get you know a boob job isn't that the same

02:26:02.200 for a guy he had hair he lost it and now he's getting it back um it could be although the thing is with with

02:26:13.800 breast implants there is no natural state of women where they ever have plastic in their chest

02:26:20.760 naturally you get it fat what's that oh fat transfers yeah i'd have to research that but

02:26:28.440 when it comes not all women who get i have that cool uh but when it comes to this right so

02:26:36.600 uh i think most men can like if they see a woman with fake breasts they can tell whereas so i don't

02:26:47.160 really think that while there are women with large breasts women with large natural breasts those don't

02:26:56.840 look the same as fake breasts but the same with the hair transplant because well look i'll grant to you

02:27:05.080 if you can tell that he has a hair transplant and it doesn't look natural then sure you can pull up a

02:27:13.560 danish twitch streamer sure there's botched hair transplants and then it gets if you got it done

02:27:21.720 badly it's like a perfectly shaped you know hairline i mean so i'm looking at your instagram right now

02:27:30.040 and you said so you don't have implants i do both oh you have both yeah oh okay so then you're not a

02:27:36.280 good good example no no i'm not because i'm looking at your instagram profile boobs yeah i can tell

02:27:41.400 those don't look like natural titties how can you tell i have a fake boob radar

02:27:49.240 i can tell well typically for example here's one for example so uh there there is to some degree a lack

02:27:55.240 of um cleavage so typically there'll be a a bit of a there's other indicators but there'll be a bit of a

02:28:02.520 a gap here that would not you would not notice in a woman with natural breasts

02:28:11.400 you don't know what i'm talking about have you seen fake breasts before where it's like

02:28:20.360 looks like a ball and oh yeah yes yes and then there's like a gap a gap that that's one indicator

02:28:27.800 the other indicator can typically be um given the size of them they're much more they're too held up

02:28:36.040 than they otherwise should be because women with large breasts uh they will i'm not saying they're

02:28:42.520 going to be saggy but they're not going to like sit quite as high in the chest but you wouldn't know

02:28:49.320 unless they take their clothes off right i mean if a woman's in a bikini okay then you would know right

02:28:55.000 okay here we're seeing i read this one for me you women need to read up on the science behind

02:29:06.200 attraction specifically the affect woman fertility and fertility cues

02:29:11.000 do the math what does your fertility look like

02:29:15.480 lucas thank you for the uh message man really appreciate it uh let's see here while we go to

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02:29:48.040 thank you guys appreciate all the support over there on twitch and then uh you wanted to talk about

02:29:53.240 i don't know if this was disagreements but you wanted to talk about abortion sex work relationship

02:29:58.040 roles let's start with relationship roles uh what did you want to talk on on that again those were

02:30:02.920 just topics that you have talked about before it wasn't anything okay like was it like disagreement or

02:30:08.440 um no just i've heard different opinions on the show and so it was one thing that stuck out to me

02:30:14.760 like that you guys talk about was there something in particular or um let me think for a minute okay

02:30:22.680 uh and then was there disagreement on the sex work one um

02:30:29.320 not it's i have to kind of like replay in my head but you guys talk about

02:30:33.880 gender roles sex work women being in the sex industry and being in relationships so these are

02:30:41.240 just all in general things that i could talk on and touch on because of my experience okay i'll throw

02:30:45.880 this out then this is something i've said when it comes to sex workers as it relates to dating not

02:30:50.280 really interested in having the conversation about just for the sake of time uh sex work bad i mean not

02:30:56.680 really interested in that but um so i think for example if a woman uh certainly if she is engaged in

02:31:05.240 sex work i would consider this non-traditional conduct ergo i don't think she deserves traditional

02:31:10.920 treatment so i've said for example women demand men to pay for first dates they they say that this

02:31:16.440 is chivalry this is gentlemanly treatment i think in order for you as a woman to be deserving

02:31:22.200 of gentlemanly or chivalrous treatment uh you need to correspondingly hold up your end of the

02:31:28.920 deal which would entail being a lady and a lady you preclude yourself from being a lady if you are

02:31:35.240 engaged in sex work of any kind thus i don't think men should pay for first dates i don't think men should

02:31:41.400 be providers to women engaged in sex work that's my position um the agreements disagreements the first

02:31:49.320 date like but i feel like a lot of people put a lot of like emphasis on like oh a man should pay

02:31:54.040 for the first date i don't know ever for a sex worker ever never okay yep that should be that should

02:32:00.920 be 50 50 or she should pay for everything why it's it well it's a total reversal of uh it's totally

02:32:07.880 non-traditional so you think that because women who are in the sex field they shouldn't have like

02:32:13.320 objections or opinions oh well so so there's a couple things here one anybody can demand anything

02:32:23.640 um maybe you can get it maybe you can't and i'll even i do believe that there's a lot of simps out

02:32:29.320 there and the total decay of society um men are desperate so a lot of men will put up with a metric

02:32:38.280 fuck ton of bullshit from women and still do the simp shit still pay for shit still be a provider

02:32:44.120 because that's sort of their natural essence and men have been like force-fed a bunch of

02:32:48.920 bullshit and a bunch of feminism for decades saying it's okay like women can behave this way women can

02:32:56.040 be sex workers women can be these progressive uh non-traditional women and you still gotta sack up

02:33:03.800 you still when it comes time you still gotta be a traditional man because and this is actually

02:33:09.960 something that's upheld by women themselves and i'm i suppose credit to you women despite you guys

02:33:17.320 being the least traditional you've ever been being the most promiscuous being the most involved in sex

02:33:23.720 work being bringing the least to the table falling as little in line with traditional gender roles as you

02:33:31.400 do you still demand traditional treatment and you still demand men fall into their traditional gender

02:33:40.680 roles and you still get it because women dictate have women have massive leverage when it comes to

02:33:49.000 dating when it comes to sex and when it comes to the sexual the sexual marketplace woman privilege

02:33:54.680 yeah so um i think men

02:34:03.080 so

02:34:03.400 but just because a woman who is in the field of sex work it doesn't mean that she won't provide the

02:34:12.920 traditional stuff that the men want well so i'll grant to you that for example a woman who's a

02:34:18.920 prostitute she might know how to cook she might know how to clean she might even be submissive although

02:34:26.440 if he if he says i want you to stop sex work and she continues doing sex work is she really submissive

02:34:31.720 um she could cook she could clean she could be feminine she could be submissive i guess um

02:34:40.440 um but i think being a prostitute one way or another is just so in contravention

02:34:53.640 of being traditional that it's kind of like you know the big thing so then

02:35:02.120 but isn't that what guys want like a tradition no like a traditional man you guys want a woman who

02:35:09.880 will cook who will clean who will do all that stuff for you yeah but not at the cost of she's a

02:35:15.960 prostitute but what if he's into that then he's a man who's willing to date a prostitute

02:35:22.920 is probably not a traditional guy who's looking for a good wholesome

02:35:28.040 woman but then you guys always say what do women have to offer not prostitution

02:35:33.720 yeah not wait let me ask you a question so is a do you think typically for most men do you think

02:35:39.720 only fans is a pro or a con i know you make money but do you think it's a pro or a con

02:35:50.760 obviously it's a con to most men but what i'm trying to say is okay you guys always say like

02:36:00.440 what do women bring to the table besides the fact that she number one she has

02:36:05.080 pussy number two she cooks she cleans she bows to you yep okay yeah we'll play that later

02:36:11.640 well that i feel like this is kind of a straw man though because what happens that you're

02:36:18.760 conflating two different phenomena so the the thing that you're conflating is when we ask women what

02:36:23.800 they think they bring to the table and that's their answer uh versus what we say uh women bring to the

02:36:33.080 table that is desirable to us so these are these are two different categories so um neither brian nor

02:36:39.800 myself have ever said uh and i know this for sure having been on as many episodes as i have

02:36:45.640 that the only thing a woman brings to the table is her vagina and cooking and cleaning

02:36:49.640 right um what has happened instead is that we've asked many women what do you bring to the table

02:36:55.000 in a relationship and that tends to be their answer so then what do you what would you say that

02:37:01.640 woman bring to the table well regardless of what i think that women bring to the table or not

02:37:08.280 the i was just correcting the conflation that you were making there when you say well you guys always

02:37:13.640 say that women only bring a b and c in response to brian's only fans it was clever because the idea

02:37:20.120 there was to say well brian what's the matter with it because you say that that's all women bring anyway

02:37:25.160 but that's never been brian's position yeah so i guess going back to it um what's your argument i guess

02:37:31.240 like what do you because my position is uh don't like they don't deserve it now do men still pay for

02:37:43.320 like will men still pay for first dates for like an only fans chick sure will men still like do

02:37:48.040 traditional shit sure can an only fans girl score like a masculine guy sure uh do they deserve it

02:37:55.880 not so i don't think so but there's a lot of men out there so and i think i'm in some ways uh a lot of

02:38:05.560 men men have been conditioned through exposure to uh kind of modernity and degeneracy like oh

02:38:16.840 it's almost i think and i'm trying to this is what i'm actually in some ways trying to undo

02:38:20.600 is like no as a man you can have standards and here's like xyz here's a bunch of standards you can

02:38:27.160 have one of your standards can be or should be uh it's kind of suboptimal to date women involved in

02:38:36.600 sex work if the okay if men could live off of doing of would it be the same like then men didn't deserve

02:38:47.000 us cooking and cleaning for them so you're saying if there were male porn stars yeah well you snuck

02:38:54.760 you hang on you snuck in a little word there right it's very sneaky loaded language the word that you

02:39:00.680 snuck in there was deserve because brian said no hang on no no no no hang on let's separate again

02:39:06.680 we got to separate this out when you say deserve right brian's asking why would a woman who wants a

02:39:13.480 traditional man but it was not traditional herself deserve one right so you're asking um you know

02:39:21.240 the in this reverse question for deserve the reason that this doesn't apply is because women don't seem

02:39:27.480 to give a shit about how many women a man has slept with they think it's weird in fact when they're

02:39:35.000 pulled on this that a man stays a virgin until they're in their 30s or 40s they think that there's

02:39:39.480 something wrong with him true but they tend to compete they tend to compete over men who have

02:39:46.200 many sexual options right and men tend to want to compete over women who have very low body counts

02:39:52.360 for the assurance of paternity but i'm not talking about body count i'm talking about him exploiting

02:39:57.480 himself like on an of i mean yeah well let's let's just grant it for a second and say no he should he

02:40:04.920 shouldn't expect to deserve to have a traditional woman but if we take the word deserve out right

02:40:12.840 this idea of who deserves what um would the traditional woman care that becomes the question

02:40:19.960 as much as the traditional man would care that's the question

02:40:25.720 so do you think that the trad girl cares as much about the high body count man

02:40:29.480 who uh was on only fans that tons of women desired versus the opposition i think that they

02:40:36.360 would not care as much traditional women want loyalty as well why wouldn't they want loyalty

02:40:41.560 because they don't have to assure paternity the same way that men do women are always assured

02:40:46.520 paternity you always know the child is yours it comes out of your body the man though he's never

02:40:51.720 assured paternity and so the reason that men tend to find this revolting i think comes from a

02:40:56.920 biological standpoint we've only recently gotten paternity tests for instance and so men want to

02:41:04.200 know that the child that they have is theirs and so that's why loyalty matters so much and so they

02:41:10.360 they see signs of non-loyal women and promiscuity is the number one sign of that

02:41:17.080 whereas in the reverse doesn't seem to be the case men with high body counts don't seem to have

02:41:21.960 a huge huge problem settling down and being loyal would you guys rather have a boyfriend

02:41:26.840 with a high body count or what would you rather have low or high i prefer low low low it doesn't

02:41:35.560 really matter to me doesn't matter yes same it doesn't matter i think for the man it's always

02:41:42.680 i think i would prefer low but i wouldn't ask i'd prefer low honestly i prefer high

02:41:49.880 high i prefer yeah both high because then they're like then here's here's the difference right so

02:41:59.960 then the big difference is is that um just just so you know if this was reversed it was all just kind

02:42:06.680 of you know normal men sitting at the table basically all of them would say that they would prefer low

02:42:12.200 that's right and and this was this was quite the mixed bag of women who said actually more women

02:42:18.280 said high than low and so that's that's where the distinction and preference comes in only one said

02:42:24.120 high and she's not no no i don't well i don't care right the answer i don't care also means that if

02:42:31.320 they have a high body count it's it's it it's irrelevant right they don't care so so if they're

02:42:37.560 like i i'll grant to you you're right it misspoke i'll grant to you that they didn't specifically say

02:42:42.360 the word high but if you don't care if it's high then it's basically saying the same thing if a man

02:42:47.160 says i do care if it's high i think that they would respond it that way right we're at to andrew's point

02:42:53.320 whereas most men would say i do care i do care i would care if it's high i prefer it to be low

02:43:01.720 correct yeah um but so i guess going back to my original position which was

02:43:06.440 uh i don't think that like you as women kind of got to hold up your end of the deal

02:43:13.880 so my position is okay you want guys to be chivalrous gentlemen providers pay for dates

02:43:24.920 you gotta like be look i'm not saying you gotta be a nun you know i'm not saying that you don't

02:43:32.120 have to be perfect but i think involvement in sex work is just to me such like this blaringly like

02:43:41.000 you're a progressive you're a progressive modern woman you don't deserve

02:43:50.600 the traditional gender you don't deserve the man to fall into his traditional gender role

02:43:56.120 you can still get it i'm sure most sex workers have no problem getting guys to pay for first dates

02:44:01.560 especially if you date your simp people on of yeah they'll fucking simp for you personally i don't

02:44:07.800 think you should even be going on dates if you're a sex worker because the point of going on dates is to

02:44:13.080 find the person that you're gonna marry you know as a traditional sure sure that's the point of going on

02:44:18.520 dates is to find the person that you're eventually gonna marry and i don't feel like most not saying

02:44:24.680 all but i don't feel like most women that are sex workers have that mindset yeah to marry um yeah

02:44:34.920 at least at the time does anybody i mean i know we have three you still do of do you do of no you do of

02:44:43.400 of of of of i mean do you guys have thoughts i mean i'm sure you guys disagree i'm sure you guys are

02:44:49.880 like no like even despite me being involved in this kind of like non-traditional field of work and

02:44:58.200 having nude photos of myself out there whatever i still want a man to be chivalrous and be traditional

02:45:04.680 and is that fair to say or i think i think it's a little crazy to say that

02:45:09.160 single women in the in the field shouldn't date at all if there's no no no i'm sorry she said that

02:45:16.920 yeah i'm moving right along off of that because that's not my position i'm not inclined to you can

02:45:22.520 date you can date go find yourself a degen soy boy lefty though um but let's get to the my position which

02:45:31.560 is i i already stated it so so we don't deserve this is that what we're no you can look if you

02:45:40.520 can find a guy who's willing to date you sure in fact that we can find them but we don't deserve

02:45:44.680 them so i'm just yeah i don't think that's what you're trying to reiterate i don't think it's it's

02:45:48.440 a fair deal i agree although then i guess you could say well life's not fair blah blah blah but

02:45:54.360 um it's definitely not fair i agree i've been in that industry for a long time and i don't think it's

02:45:59.960 fair i would never expect a fully traditional uh role from a man and i've been in i would say

02:46:10.200 a relationship where the man did not care at all i provided everything i paid for everything i

02:46:18.360 never had a job um and then i dated someone who was the opposite does not like it at all is not okay

02:46:23.960 with it does not feel like that should we should have a traditional role because of that and so

02:46:29.560 i've dealt with both but i do agree that i don't think that sex workers i don't necessarily like the

02:46:36.360 word deserve but i don't think that that dynamic works if you're a sex worker you cannot expect a

02:46:41.640 man to give you all of the traditional things if you are in that industry at all i but i think that a

02:46:50.040 woman can be in that industry and still value traditional roles and want that eventually but

02:46:55.720 i think she has to stop doing sex work and then pursue a traditional role with you know gender

02:47:02.760 role relationship and i'll just add this like these are my views and i know for a fact that i can sit

02:47:10.760 here all day and say well these girls who do only fans sex workers they don't deserve this but at the

02:47:16.840 end of the day i know there's a sucker born every minute new sucker turns 18 whatever the

02:47:22.520 fuck uh i know that you guys despite the whatever the scope of your sex work is whether you're

02:47:29.720 strippers or doing only fans shooting porn even literal escorts or prostitutes uh i know there's

02:47:37.720 the guys will still there are men out there who will still hold up their end of the bargain hold

02:47:43.560 up their end of the deal they'll get less and less though perhaps through the work of the

02:47:50.920 charitable work of the whatever in my opinion that will never work um they might do it for a while

02:47:58.120 but that will never work long term that relationship will not last um any man in that you know in the

02:48:04.280 beginning they might think you could even say in the position they think like oh if i do all these

02:48:08.200 things then she might stop right but that has to be like a hard line like you have to decide i want

02:48:13.320 to stop so that i can have this traditional relationship um so i i guess uh i do want to

02:48:20.680 move things on and wrap it up on this specific point but it seems like many women have just they've

02:48:25.560 completely forsaken abandoned cast aside um almost any and all of their traditional gender roles yet

02:48:34.840 oftentimes with the utmost entitlement they still expect men to adhere to uh our traditional gender

02:48:41.640 roles it's kind of like you want your cake and to eat it too it's like on one hand you have women

02:48:48.120 who are just pushing like liberal feminist progressive equality values as far as humanly possible sex work

02:48:56.040 totally fine men are insecure if they uh are unwilling to date women who are currently letting other

02:49:01.640 men blast inside of them no modesty in either their conduct or appearance promiscuity etc on the other

02:49:09.480 hand when it comes to your gendered expectations of men you might as well be like 1950s bachelorettes

02:49:18.760 you want men to be chivalrous you want men to be providers and protectors and leaders take all the

02:49:24.680 initiative pay for dates open the car door get you flowers get down on one knee propose spend five

02:49:31.400 figures on a ring um double standard it's just um to me it's just kind of kind of crazy so uh

02:49:39.080 uh i don't know just uh whatever so uh moving on moving on um i guess going back to you though i think

02:49:47.400 there was uh relationship rules i don't know if you said maybe there's a disagreement or on something

02:49:53.480 no okay abortion are you pro-life pro-choice i wouldn't say i'm pro-life or pro-choice um

02:50:03.320 i lean i mean i lean more pro-choice i will say that but i okay i see both sides i actually i don't

02:50:10.200 want to linger on the uh abortion topic i'm actually just curious though by show fans and we won't linger

02:50:15.320 don't really feel like having the that convo tonight uh who's pro-choice

02:50:22.120 okay pro-life

02:50:25.400 all right okay uh and then let's see moving on to did you provide any notes or no no okay um

02:50:35.800 in your instagram bio though you're a certified peer support specialist is that like a therapist or

02:50:42.360 um that is a so i was certified through nami which is the national association mental illness

02:50:49.240 it was a certification i did with the project that i help on here in california and i hosted

02:50:57.000 uh peer support groups for veterans and their caregivers and i covered a multitude of topics from

02:51:03.400 health care navigation the va system claims management you do counseling or

02:51:08.360 uh i am not a licensed counselor peer support sure i'm a caregiver so i'm allowed to you also

02:51:14.440 describe yourself in your instagram profile you're an aries sun virgo moon cancer rising

02:51:22.120 yeah it's part of my astrology chart what is that it's just part of your astrology chart so there's

02:51:26.920 different based on when you were born where you were born what time all that yeah i'm um i am a uh

02:51:34.120 a sagittarius okay do you guys get that from me i'm a sagittarius do you guys you've done this

02:51:39.720 before do you guys get you're not getting sagittarius what what you're saying are you anybody getting

02:51:46.280 sagittarius me oh i'm actually a capricorn oh nice yeah you guys fucked up uh all right um

02:51:56.200 um hmm where do we let me see here oh we have lucas go ahead cena

02:52:03.240 gee golly she's so well she's cool she's clean she's submissive and she's also lorena bobbit

02:52:12.360 bobbit what a wholesome into the mic into the mic what a wholesome traditional gal chair too if

02:52:18.520 a girl isn't a prostitute right off the bat

02:52:28.680 do you want to respond cena here cena what do you think about this so a girl does only fans do you

02:52:35.560 think the guy should pay for the first date honestly i think that the men they don't have to but

02:52:42.760 every girl has their own opinion right like some girls would want would like that but obviously

02:52:48.680 like okay sure yeah i guess i mean look i'm sure there's like only fans girls out there who their

02:52:56.520 standard is like yeah i'm doing only fans but like yeah you're gonna pay for me if i if we go on the

02:53:01.640 first date and if you don't pay then there's gonna there's not gonna be they're not saying this but like

02:53:05.960 that's the mindset there won't be a second date because this is my expectation i can get it i want

02:53:12.600 it uh and yeah they can get it but don't think that they deserve it um i'm gonna get into the

02:53:22.360 questionnaire stuff i'll get back to the pre the other actually let me just do a quick glance here

02:53:27.160 if there's uh any interesting um i mean cena let me do your notes really quick uh you said men can

02:53:34.280 be sassier than girls in a relationship yes uh have you had that experience yes yeah how is he sassy

02:53:43.960 like sassy in a way where it's like they complain they complain so much more about anything compared

02:53:51.720 to the girls like say like i don't know if you know the term like men period like men who are on

02:53:57.640 their periods what what men complain more than the girls what no there are some men who do complain

02:54:04.360 more than yeah there's some i'm sure there's some but i mean come on like women are notorious for

02:54:09.320 complaining non-stop and then this way they're like they're they're notorious for it

02:54:14.600 so you think men complain more than there are some like here let me give you so let me give you let

02:54:24.520 me give you an example here okay wait do you feel like you would be more let's just play this game

02:54:29.400 real quick the game is do you feel like you'd be more likely to hear this phrase from a man or a woman

02:54:35.560 ready okay so show of hands ready i have some concerns show of hands if it's a woman

02:54:44.920 show of hands yeah show of hands if it's a man

02:54:50.280 yeah yeah okay you ready here we go here we go i'm on a journey show of hands if it's a woman

02:54:58.520 show of hands if it's a man yeah like it's like a typical single man

02:55:09.160 thing a typical single man tells you he's on a journey yeah i'm on the journey to find myself

02:55:14.520 adventure yeah it's going on adventure okay um you ready here's the last one real quick show of hands

02:55:23.080 man or woman okay we're going to start with is the following from a man

02:55:32.200 um wait what what's so funny what what what just but you already you you already knew you

02:55:40.760 already know what i'm gonna say okay so we have the journey we have the concerns then uh what's the

02:55:46.280 last what's the third one i forgot what the third one was i had them written down here um

02:55:50.760 um i'm pregnant see you no no that's always that's always gonna be uh oh yeah yeah is that a complaint

02:55:57.960 um can we talk is that a man or a woman show of hands if it's a man

02:56:07.880 show of hands if it's a woman

02:56:12.120 yeah um question have any of you had the experience of and guys do this too but

02:56:19.400 uh you're maybe you're dating a guy and he doesn't

02:56:26.600 this can sometimes go both ways i think but whatever i'll throw it out there he doesn't

02:56:31.880 text you enough anybody had that experience

02:56:38.520 i would say yes really yeah yeah it's i actually i mean maybe it's maybe it's just me

02:56:44.440 i feel like it depends on the girl's definition of enough i'm such a fucking

02:56:48.280 shit texter but i'm 35 i didn't have that back i had a rotary telephone you sent letters i said

02:56:55.960 just feel like your personality is not necessarily very like i'm just going to be texting you all

02:56:59.880 the time oh no like i would feel like i would kind of get that vibe i'm like text the only reason

02:57:06.360 i would text is to be like okay here's the plan i'll see you here this time i'm not going to be

02:57:11.320 like oh um how was your day let's have a one-hour conversation that was my last one real quick last

02:57:19.080 one okay i is this a man or a woman it's not what you said it's how you said it show of hands if that's a

02:57:29.640 man show of hands if that's a woman yeah what have you done for me lately

02:57:42.360 um yeah good you know it's a good talk good talk anything cena what else you got you got anything on

02:57:47.160 this or is it uh you know sassy you said sassy there's some i'm kind of sassy

02:57:53.160 yeah so you understand sometimes i can be sassy yeah but mostly it's the girl i've dated a guy who

02:58:00.360 my ex was extremely dramatic but i wouldn't say more dramatic than most females man uh cena you said

02:58:08.920 size doesn't truly matter yeah are you talking about penis size

02:58:15.480 it doesn't okay i disagree you're a size queen not necessarily a size i don't i don't i think it

02:58:29.800 matters you think just uh going around the table does size matter no no no i'd be lying that it does

02:58:39.240 matter it does matter okay yes does matter yeah yeah no so wait uh

02:58:45.400 yes yes yes yes yes for those of you who said yes um now i could see a girl saying like uh if he's

02:58:53.000 got a micro penis thing but like are you saying that like would you be dissatisfied if he was average

02:59:02.920 that would depend on the abilities average like i think you could like i think average is like five

02:59:10.120 inches not particularly girthy

02:59:15.720 it's a no for me no go okay no no go no if it's not girthy then if it's not girthy but if it's five

02:59:25.000 and girth then yes if it's five no girth then no i mean i'm gonna stick with my answer if size

02:59:31.720 matters average girth i guess i don't i don't think i'm above average but i size matters for me so

02:59:37.800 okay i think it matters in the sense of what you're saying like micro um yeah average is fine average

02:59:45.640 would be fine so for you three then unless uh or i guess i'll include you on this um why don't you

02:59:52.760 here show with your hands what you consider to be like what do you what what do you consider is

03:00:01.560 average and then what do you want here hold it up i think you said five is average right yeah but

03:00:09.960 you said average no bueno yeah no i but i'm not gonna like put my hands up but i'm okay inch just

03:00:15.560 tell us inches okay seven eight okay so like one percent of men i guess okay like as big as the cup

03:00:23.080 is fine like that's what hold on not wide not wide no no no tall tall wait can somebody um i think it's

03:00:33.240 five these are like this is this is no bro that's no that's five that's five that's five inches hold

03:00:40.120 on let me measure i'm measuring i'm getting i'm getting it out because inquiring minds need

03:00:47.160 to know the size i've got the tape right here hold up bro all right let's i won't touch the there's no

03:00:54.840 way that's what is that is it's like six that's what i said i said it's six it's i don't know if they

03:01:00.440 can see but it's uh it's yeah even if it was like that's that's an inch that's an inch above

03:01:06.040 ever and then girth won't you show us the girth um so like just just you know at least at least like

03:01:12.600 that is it's okay oh at least oh okay at least like that but i see i've experienced like you know

03:01:20.920 and it just it's painful straight into your mic again it's just it's just painful so it's painful

03:01:26.440 if it's small for no no girth wise if it's like oh wait if it's too thin she's saying it's it's too

03:01:33.640 long and too long and too thin then it's painful if it's too thin yeah for the female it's yeah it's

03:01:41.000 not that she's saying like if it's longer than thicker that's just like what she's saying yeah

03:01:47.720 how would that be that doesn't make any if it's a six inch and thin versus six inch and girthy

03:01:53.160 most girls actually prefer girls no i know but how would it be no like if it was a needle when

03:01:58.280 you get a needle you can't feel are you what i'm sorry let me just let me just to just to clarify

03:02:06.600 let me just explain with my experience it was it was like at the least four inches and i was like

03:02:13.480 cool i'm not judging nothing we're cool i fuck with you but it wasn't it was fairly thin it was like

03:02:20.280 i want to say like that that's probably average it wasn't it was like it was just a painful

03:02:26.280 experience in the moment why would that be wait what did he have like a fucking razor blade on his

03:02:32.760 penis how the fuck would that be painful it didn't it wasn't it was like i felt yeah like pokey that's

03:02:40.360 the best way to explain it literally makes no sense it does it doesn't even make sense yeah it

03:02:46.840 if you had a cervix you might understand yeah if you if you had like a a wide what a wide yeah wait

03:02:54.280 so it hurt because it was hitting your cervix no just the the the like friction of it and i get it

03:03:00.920 like it just i can't explain you should see an obg something's wrong with your i can't explain it

03:03:05.880 you gotta talk to you guys can't explain it no because my man now is great and we have like amazing

03:03:10.760 sex so that was the only so okay uh what about you uh i guess the minimum size or whatever i mean

03:03:18.120 into the mic please oh my bad uh i mean i think that uh the cup is a pretty good rendition in terms

03:03:23.800 of lengths uh and proportionate that'd be minimum though like average is minimum for me okay and then

03:03:31.000 proportionate to the rest of it girth yeah length or girth i want the girth proportionate to the length

03:03:40.840 so like i don't want it to be but if you had to choose oh if i had to choose between no no you want

03:03:47.720 the girth proportionate to the length so like six inches long and six inches wide no like i want it

03:03:53.560 i want it to be because right we're saying like a minimum is what he asked me and so i don't want

03:03:59.960 i don't want that and that's not proportionate okay so i want it i was like wait what no wait so just

03:04:08.600 to be clear if uh if the guy was like five and a half inches and like average girth done probably be

03:04:16.280 fine done deal done deal no that's fine no that but that's below what you want no but i said i'd be

03:04:22.600 fine with even four inches oh and average girth that if it's average if the girth is average then

03:04:28.040 that's fine i'm not judging that's cool because if you got motion then that's cool we're rocking

03:04:33.800 that's fine tell me the question again i'm sorry i was so is it like done deal if like average no i

03:04:43.800 okay but done deal for you yeah so like let's say you're hooking up with a guy like first time and

03:04:49.640 then like do you stop the hookup or do you do it i think i don't think i would stop i think that's

03:04:56.840 kind of fucked up so you would still fuck him or you wouldn't well i mean if we're already i'm kind

03:05:01.480 of already in the process of that right if i'm getting to see like the size of he takes it out

03:05:05.800 and then i'm like never mind we're good like no i wouldn't do that to someone okay so you'd go

03:05:10.360 through wait so it's a pity fuck i might try to like you know they don't know that i don't know

03:05:16.920 finesse the situation or something but i'm not just gonna be like if you're not cutting it like

03:05:21.320 we can't do this anymore but so like you you might fuck and but then there won't be a second like it's

03:05:26.280 over yeah but i i think damn bro y'all superficial sexual compatibility matters so like it really truly

03:05:39.320 does if you're gonna be with imagine if you're excited and then a girl has like no labia what would

03:05:43.240 you do would you leave her there on the bed by herself oh i mean look i i'll date i do look i

03:05:50.760 maybe i shouldn't talk on this

03:05:54.280 wait can you wait hold on that's weird that hold on i'm just checking something on the twitch thing

03:06:00.600 one sec what the hell one sec guys is it gonna why is it why is it so low normally it's like i don't

03:06:08.360 know whatever okay uh new creation thank you for the gifted sub yeah i mean like but the thing is

03:06:13.480 like i'll date i'll date a girl with an innie i prefer audi you know what i mean but is it a deal

03:06:20.840 breaker if she has an innie no it's not a deal breaker if she has an innie does color matter of

03:06:27.800 like the labia because great question yeah that's kind of like is it pink yeah what if it isn't

03:06:33.880 i don't care i also think that's different though because the comparison is not the same the way

03:06:38.920 dick feels versus just labia is sorry is different you're saying like because it was based on

03:06:46.360 preference right but i'm just saying like our preference is different because it's how it

03:06:51.000 feels not just how it looks and what's attractive there's a different feeling kind of too for color if

03:06:59.000 no if it's an out no if it's an outie there's a different there's a bit of a different sensation

03:07:06.520 i guess you can say but i'll agree with you that like yeah it's not it's not really gonna have a

03:07:12.760 massive it's a very minimal um what's a better word minimal negligible difference yeah and i feel

03:07:21.800 like for women too it's like it it matters if you you might not care if it's longer thick or whatever

03:07:28.840 but like it's just different for women like it feels what feels good for her would feel different

03:07:34.440 for her you know so i just feel like it's a little bit harder to compare that yeah well and this kind

03:07:39.640 of and we won't linger on this one too long but this goes into one of the questionnaire things uh do

03:07:44.680 you disagree if women care more about looks than men do a couple of you circled on that one

03:07:50.600 and i do think in this is one of the arguments i make is that uh i think women care more about looks

03:07:58.200 than men do because the there's a lot of things that women care a lot about that are completely out

03:08:05.560 of men's control so the three things that are totally out of men's control that have to do with like

03:08:10.920 to some degree physical appearance uh so like height totally outside the man's control hair like if he's

03:08:17.160 balding a lot of women would have strong preference for men with full head of hair

03:08:22.680 i mean without like drug or surgical intervention totally out of his control and then like penis size

03:08:29.640 which isn't i don't think that's so much like a visually visual thing but it's a physical thing

03:08:36.520 that women care about like i don't think you maybe maybe there's some visual component like

03:08:42.920 it could be psychologically stimulating in some way if the guy's got like a massive cock like

03:08:49.160 just a big coarse penis like just this just a tree trunk of a peen you know like that could be

03:08:56.840 psychologically stimulating you know but i think like on some aesthetic level you're not like

03:09:02.120 i don't know you know what i mean whatever maybe some of you are i don't know maybe you see a giant

03:09:07.320 thing no that's that's true there is too big there is well okay that's not totally what i'm getting

03:09:13.560 at but um in any case i think you guys care uh i think you guys care more than about looks than men

03:09:19.960 do well if you think of sorry if you think about how like uh you know like if you take a guy versus

03:09:26.040 a girl swiping through tinder a guy is more likely to swipe right on yeah almost every girl that he sees

03:09:33.000 that's somewhat attractive a girl is going to be a lot more picky and they're you know barely

03:09:39.160 gonna swipe i've seen it with my own eyes with my friends with guys and girls yeah that's actually

03:09:45.080 you raise a really good point a really good argument on this one it's like if you look at you know women

03:09:50.840 say oh i don't really care about looks and this is like any girl who's been on a dating app if you

03:09:54.840 know the their swiping pattern and they might say oh i will i uh you know it's i can tell it's like

03:10:01.000 most people on dating apps even women aren't like doing a thorough investigation of the entire profile

03:10:06.600 they're not like um looking at every single photo they're not reading the prompts like most people

03:10:12.200 are like look at the first photo and it's like swipe swipe swipe this way that way so yeah that's

03:10:17.400 a really good point because y'all swipe on like 10 of dudes but i can argue that men will swipe a lot

03:10:24.840 more because they're willing to just yeah whether she's super pretty or she's not that pretty she

03:10:31.400 can be average and they're still they'll still go out and pursue and possibly engage but women will

03:10:36.280 be more picky in that way and just to be charitable men will also even like men's some of men's strategy

03:10:43.000 on dating apps is in to save time because women are really the women are the selectors and the

03:10:51.160 gatekeepers on dating apps they'll just instead of like oh wasting their time like oh let me pick

03:10:56.920 no they just swipe on everybody and they let women do the funnel or whatever and let the women be the

03:11:03.080 deciders on the match essentially so they would swipe yes on the woman who they otherwise would not

03:11:08.920 find attractive and not even have sex with even they're just like so but i think if you were to do

03:11:17.080 some sort of experiment where like the men had to like okay do you find this woman attractive i think

03:11:23.640 most men more the majority of men will appraise more women as attractive than the reverse most women

03:11:32.280 find like i mean we can go around the table really quick what percent of men do you find attractive

03:11:41.000 i mean i go for personality because well you don't so you don't care about looks at all i i do to

03:11:46.040 a certain degree how do you select then on a dating app i usually don't use dating apps but if you

03:11:53.880 were to use a dating app how would you select after like what vibe does it give does he smile a lot does

03:12:00.920 he well let's just make this easy then if he looks arrogant i would like okay but let's make it easy

03:12:06.120 let's make it easy i totally get that you care about personality but are you saying you don't care

03:12:10.920 about looks at all no i do okay cool so whatever your like metric is or whatever when it comes to

03:12:16.040 like looks i'm totally agree with you maybe you care about it one percent but like that one percent is

03:12:21.320 the first thing that's going to come uh even if you don't care even if you don't care about looks at

03:12:26.280 all and you just a factor for personality uh you still can acknowledge whether a man is physically

03:12:32.360 attractive is attractive or not physically right yeah okay so what percent of percent of men do you find

03:12:38.840 physically attractive like on a street or on a dating app street i would say 50 60 okay yeah 50 50 cap

03:12:53.720 maybe 70 cap a percentage you would date 70 of the men that walk by on the street well assuming that they

03:13:01.240 all had good personalities i'd say if they were like most men are conventionally attractive i feel

03:13:07.640 i really okay all right there's a lot of men in the world so maybe i'm crazy but i'm saying like 25

03:13:13.480 percent 25 what about you i'm engaged now but when i wasn't it was like a cool 50 50 oh wow okay

03:13:22.920 i'd probably say i'm like 30 to 40 percent all right i'm saying 30 percent okay

03:13:28.120 i'd say like 15 to 20 percent all right when i was pretty generous uh you guys are a little

03:13:35.560 yeah fucking right yeah right it's a brian do you have the um i i you know i never liked this segment

03:13:42.920 but this would be a good time to roll out the segment of the uh dating app where you could you

03:13:48.760 could ask if they if they would date or not date i would actually like to see that based on those things

03:13:52.680 i just don't believe it now for a second we could uh i don't actually i don't know if we

03:13:57.560 who does he not believe i don't think we have like the login still we probably got banned

03:14:02.600 and we should have if we were going to do it we should have done it before because like you know

03:14:07.640 because it's like if somebody's uh if somebody make takes a position they're going to try to

03:14:15.880 conduct themselves and act in a way to affirm the position even if they're lying about it you know

03:14:22.360 like they're typically not going to like yeah expose themselves yeah so um so uh let's get into

03:14:30.440 what you do you know what you do in the future then yeah you ask them this question and then you get

03:14:34.680 nothing but ugly men right and then and then just only go through the ugly men and then have them bite

03:14:40.120 the bullet that they would date them just so that they can confirm their uh their nonsense right

03:14:44.200 i like that would be a good way to do it i like it i like it uh okay what else do we have from cena

03:14:49.960 uh uh you can't you can't tell your partner not to do something if you do it meaning if your partner

03:14:57.000 says i don't like that don't do it then they should follow the same rule what's the like i guess the

03:15:01.400 context here it's like if you were to tell your wife like don't do this because i prefer you wouldn't

03:15:09.480 do it i don't want you to do it i think in return the men should also do the same like say

03:15:15.800 i don't want you to go out and party on friday nights the men should also like stay home and

03:15:22.120 not go party on friday nights does that make sense you're looking for reciprocity basically

03:15:29.640 reciprocity and respect i guess in a way

03:15:34.920 i think that's fair although i like i kind of want to argue it because i mean i think going to let

03:15:41.720 me just preface this by saying i think going out to bars clubs parties is stupid regardless of your

03:15:49.160 sex or gender whatever um i'm introverted i've done it when a bit when i was younger uh i just can

03:15:57.640 point out actual reasons why i think it's like stupid and whatever so i don't think anybody should

03:16:01.720 do it just on that basis but i think there's a difference because like as a guy you can go out to a

03:16:09.320 bar or club and no girl's gonna come and hit on you ever but as a girl if you go out to a bar club

03:16:17.800 like there's a fairly high probability like you can like before you even go out you can probably like

03:16:24.200 anticipate that somebody's gonna come and talk to me you know depends on what you do with that though

03:16:28.760 like me being in a relationship i have respect to my boyfriend you know we have a mutual respect when

03:16:34.280 we both go out you know we have boundaries and stuff and i'll tell a guy off if they sure come

03:16:40.520 up to me just out of respect for being in a relationship the what i'm saying here is i'm not

03:16:45.960 saying that because men women get approached it means that something's going to happen uh i certainly

03:16:52.600 can be the case the woman can go out and we'll never be uh we'll never have any sort of temptation

03:16:59.240 or anything will happen ever although there's a higher likelihood uh and in addition to that

03:17:06.040 even if you have perfectly good intentions the men that goes to these venues i don't know what

03:17:13.400 their intentions are you are potentially putting yourself in a dangerous position as men you guys look

03:17:21.000 to us to be leaders and protectors if you want us to be leaders and protectors you need to

03:17:27.800 give us authority we need to be able to have authority in the relationship and part of this would include

03:17:35.000 safety assessment risk assessment going out to bars clubs parties there's a lot of drunk men men

03:17:40.920 do stupid or even criminal shit when they're drunk or these even if they're not drunk these venues can

03:17:48.280 attract demented fucks and i mean i don't know why is it that that in these environment like in these

03:17:56.360 environments you got to watch your drink somebody could put something in your drink that has nothing

03:18:00.760 to do with your conduct everything to do with somebody else's conduct i don't want you in that

03:18:05.560 position to begin with so if you don't go to the club you've totally precluded yourself from

03:18:13.400 being in some an environment where this sort of crime is likely to happen

03:18:17.480 um in addition to that uh i'm trying to think what else um a guy could um try to like touch

03:18:28.840 you inappropriately this if they're drunk happens all the time that's not your fault it's never your

03:18:34.440 fault uh i but i guess i wouldn't i don't mention to go to the bar with their girlfriend but if you did

03:18:44.440 go to the bar or club with your girlfriend then she's going to be like look to you to do something

03:18:49.560 about it then you end up in a street fight something happens to the guy something happens

03:18:57.000 to you you got into a very dumb fucking situation because your girl wanted to dance

03:19:03.160 fuck that shit if you're in a relationship you don't you don't take your girl to club you don't

03:19:07.800 take your girl to the bar it's gonna be a problem eventually can i respond to that sure so i think

03:19:15.880 there's a couple points that need to be factored into that decision you mentioned at the beginning

03:19:20.360 that you're an introvert you don't like going out to those kinds of places and so i would encourage you

03:19:25.720 to find a partner that is similar um i've kind of been in this situation where um you know i'm

03:19:32.680 married my husband has opinions about certain things one of them is that he's not comfortable

03:19:37.800 with me traveling outside of the country without him um and it's to a place that i have been before

03:19:44.520 and this has been a topic of ongoing discussion in our marriage and while i can um have empathy

03:19:51.880 for the position that you know he doesn't want me put in that position it also kind of discredits

03:19:57.320 uh where i'm coming from in that i have a very strong intuition i think all women kind of have

03:20:03.800 that feeling when you know that you shouldn't be anywhere anymore um and that's not to discredit

03:20:08.440 that there are stupid people drunk people do dumb things and they can expose you indecently but that's

03:20:14.120 the same thing as saying like if it me getting in my car every day there's the potential that a drunk

03:20:19.480 driver is going to also get in their car and hit me so should i not drive anymore because there's

03:20:25.480 drunk drivers isn't there a matter isn't there a matter there of respect though there is a matter

03:20:30.440 of respect and that's why it's an ongoing conversation yeah well hang on let me just

03:20:35.960 make the case and then then he can respond um i i would think that there would be a matter of respect

03:20:41.560 there so you're uh you as as the wife of your husband you are an extension a representation a way

03:20:47.960 of him and him of you right um so you just even for appearance purposes if you're traveling out

03:20:55.240 of the country and things like that i could see where a man could see that as being disrespectful

03:20:59.480 if you wanted to go without him and that kind of makes sense just the fact that i'm going without him

03:21:07.160 no no no it's not the fact that you're going without him it's the idea that

03:21:12.920 so he'll probably frame it like um well i don't trust other men right it's not you it's not that i don't

03:21:19.480 trust you it's that i don't trust other men who are around something like that is that is that more

03:21:24.200 akin to the type of conversation you're having yeah and also the distance is a fearful position

03:21:29.400 it's like farther more difficult to get to me in the event that there is an accident yeah so i'll just

03:21:34.920 i'll break this down the best that i can at least because i've heard this kind of go back and forth so

03:21:39.480 many times not really a matter of him not trusting you or not even trusting other men it's a matter of

03:21:44.840 him wanting to show you to show respect to him and so from from his position it's very likely that he

03:21:51.160 thinks the most respectful thing that you could do is never put him in a position where he'd have

03:21:55.720 to tell you not to do that in the first place so if i have been transparent about my desire to travel

03:22:02.280 prior to our relationship turning to a marriage is that something that you know yeah i mean even then

03:22:08.120 right it's like the the the idea for men right the subservience respect from the woman is extremely

03:22:16.040 important and it seems that if a woman would want to go out for instance uh like with her friends to

03:22:21.560 a nightclub or something like that i think you could trust her just fine i just think that they

03:22:25.320 find it to be highly disrespectful just like if they were you know perhaps walking down the street

03:22:29.800 and holding hands with a woman you would be very upset by that even if they meant nothing by that

03:22:34.520 um well i mean i don't know exactly how they wouldn't but the point stands right it's like there's a

03:22:39.640 different metric for what is considered respectful or disrespectful if you're married

03:22:44.200 and you go out of country without your husband uh for the for the purpose you know what i mean there's

03:22:49.400 uh he says distance he says this he says that uh but but he probably just feels like it's uh it's

03:22:55.800 disrespectful i can respect that position yeah um but so going back to this i don't know um

03:23:08.280 in any case cena i think your point was just like both people should

03:23:11.320 uphold it and i think what i was just trying i was kind of maybe rambling a little bit but

03:23:16.680 um i think the point i was trying to make is that there's kind of differences uh

03:23:23.080 i agree with you that like i would probably not

03:23:28.200 date a girl who was interested in raving and partying and going to the club anyways um but

03:23:35.080 uh i do think it's actually a good standard for a lot of men that perhaps that that this sort of

03:23:41.880 people who participate in this sort of uh stuff might not be the most relationship-minded person

03:23:51.160 uh because when it comes down to it i do genuinely think that

03:23:56.520 that in terms of the differential here and the asymmetry a woman who goes out to

03:24:02.520 a bar in a club is a bigger liability to the relationship than the reverse

03:24:09.800 that's that's probably the relationship probably one of the only things i disagree with you on just

03:24:14.120 because of being in a long-distance relationship you know we have to

03:24:18.360 build that trust with each other and you know we both tell each other you know everything when we're

03:24:23.240 going out who we're going out with um you know and i strictly you know we both strictly go out

03:24:29.720 to hang out with our friends and i we're both very conscious of who we go out with too you know like

03:24:36.280 i go out with you know my girlfriends that i know are gonna you know stand up for me no matter what

03:24:42.760 what what part do you disagree with though the it being a bigger liability for the woman to go out

03:24:48.360 i think it's a liability for both people to go out but not necessarily so the disagreement

03:24:52.600 is like precluding your partner from going out is that the disagreement or i mean if they were

03:24:57.720 if your partner had you know different like if my boyfriend were like oh you know i don't feel

03:25:02.920 comfortable with you going to this place with these people i would respect that and how about period

03:25:07.720 i don't feel comfortable you going out to any bars clubs etc period oh yeah then i would totally respect

03:25:13.160 them okay so what's the disagreement uh like how you were saying like that basically like if a

03:25:19.320 girl goes out to a bar that's disrespectful is that what you were you said she's a liability to

03:25:24.360 the relationship more of a lie it's it's a bigger liability than the reverse because here's why i mean

03:25:31.240 yeah yeah to the relationship it's a bigger liability because one of i think uh the hypergamous

03:25:40.040 nature of women like women are much more likely to like potentially

03:25:46.280 like you guys will trade up if the opportunity presents itself and like this presents an opportunity

03:25:51.480 for that uh actually that's a terrible argument let me retract that um the the main issue the main

03:25:56.680 issue is is that when it comes to when it comes to way that men and women flirt it's totally different

03:26:05.080 so you guys would agree that well let me ask you guys this um how many of you here when you go out

03:26:13.400 to a bar or a nightclub you will like actively approach and go up to like 10 guys in the night

03:26:19.640 and try to flirt with them and sexually pursue them who here does that never ever have any of you gone

03:26:25.560 to and look i'm gonna just preface this by saying um

03:26:34.040 you got i don't believe this but you guys just go out to the bar and club to have fun

03:26:41.160 saying that have you ever gone out to a party or a bar or a club and you weren't like yeah i'm gonna

03:26:50.040 go fuck some dude tonight but you thought oh maybe in the dark recesses of your mind because

03:26:56.920 you could never even comprehend ever having a sexual interest in the man have you ever thought

03:27:03.560 oh it would be nice if i met a guy tonight when you went out no really yeah you never thought

03:27:10.280 i like i can't wait to maybe like have male attention tonight oh my god ever never at a bar

03:27:17.800 or a club or anything so just to be clear you've never gone out to a bar or club

03:27:22.280 with i'm not saying you were thirsty not saying you were like

03:27:27.480 fucking on the hunt for some penis but it never even crossed your mind like dry spell

03:27:36.360 it'd be nice to meet like a cool guy tonight yeah it crossed my mind definitely like it's never been

03:27:41.960 even a part of your motivation to go out right i don't go out you've never been to a bar club

03:27:47.560 i've never been to when i was like 18 how old are you me well this is the context is going out

03:27:52.760 to bars and clubs so i mean if you don't go out then you don't go out but you've never been to a

03:27:57.400 rave or a party so look i'll make the point though nobody here never been to you've never been to a

03:28:03.640 social you've never been to a social gathering and you're like ah it'd be nice to meet a nice

03:28:11.080 meet a cool guy really you guys can't you guys can't even cop to like having romantic or sexual

03:28:18.840 interest sure yeah you're saying we've never done it oh my god when you guys are fucking asexual

03:28:23.400 aromantics oh my god you guys women can never even uh you guys can never even i said i have why

03:28:30.200 can't you just admit that you have interest in that why is that so oh my god bro oh definitely have

03:28:37.480 especially like when i was younger and when i was younger and i'd go out like okay yeah of course

03:28:43.000 now that we've i none of you even even granted me that you have any romantic or sexual interest in

03:28:49.800 men when you go out to these environments okay i'll make my point when i'm out sure i'll make my point

03:28:54.600 regardless where then where where do you guys prefer to meet men on twitch or you you prefer to meet them

03:29:01.800 on dating apps and whatever okay whatever the point i'm trying to make here is is that when it

03:29:08.040 comes to getting into a relationship we all agree we all agree that a man should stop pursuing women

03:29:17.000 right yes men should stop pursuing women it would be cheating right if you were in a relationship with

03:29:23.000 a guy and he went up to a girl he approached a girl took the initiative and flirted with her right

03:29:28.120 mm-hmm okay do women do that no what do women do women put themselves in positions to be pursued they

03:29:38.920 put them in positions to be approached you won't slide into a guy's dm but you'll post a revealing photo

03:29:46.920 or a photo or post something on social media what no we slide into people's dms

03:29:52.600 oh my okay do i do i have to make the address the constant exception thing do women slide into men's

03:30:01.880 dms yes they do do you do it at the same free how many dms do you get per day me yes not a lot

03:30:10.280 even as a of content creator you don't get yeah no not like dms people react to my stories okay how

03:30:17.000 many dms do you get one per day two per day three per day yeah two per day two per day okay and you've

03:30:25.080 been on social media how long you're 23 two per day okay so there's uh you've had like two would

03:30:30.920 you say you've had like 2 000 men dm you then yep not um you said two per day yeah two per day there's

03:30:39.400 365 days in a year in just one year that's uh over seven but some of them are the same like just

03:30:48.200 double triple texting individual dms yeah but not that often okay what then what how many individual

03:30:57.160 men dm you like three a week three a week yeah okay so in a given year that's a hundred and over 150

03:31:07.640 men who have contacted you offering you a romantic or sexual relationship essentially how many men per

03:31:14.840 year do you dm i dm a lot okay how many me yeah is it 150 a year more and you've really and do that how

03:31:29.320 many respond not all of them

03:31:34.920 yeah all right whatever she's unique though okay we will say that's not like you're trying to make

03:31:41.640 a point on the love first i hate these exception arguments it's such a waste of time it just totally

03:31:47.800 every time these exception oh there's an exception it totally derails the entire conversation people

03:31:54.200 can't even grant the general point that's just widely known women do not initiate when it comes

03:32:00.200 to romantic relationships to the same degree or same frequency that men do so like i said what do women

03:32:07.880 do you don't slide into men's dms right you post a photo and then you try to elicit contact from men

03:32:16.760 when it comes to modern dating we have a clear cut off on men saying it's cheating for you to use the

03:32:26.680 methods in which you get women we say if you go approach a a man and it applies to women too for example if

03:32:35.640 a woman were to approach a man that'd be cheating too the problem is is that women don't do it we're not

03:32:41.160 cut we're only cutting off men's system for getting women but we don't cut off women's systems for getting

03:32:51.080 men and so the fair proposition would be men need to stop approaching women and you women need to stop

03:33:00.280 putting yourselves in scenarios and locations and positions where you can anticipate and where

03:33:09.960 women would put themselves with an expectation they get approached this isn't to say you can't

03:33:15.720 go to the grocery store even though men approach you at the grocery store it's not what we're saying

03:33:22.440 but when it comes to very specific social gatherings and social venues bars clubs parties where the

03:33:30.200 expectation is going to be that you're going to be approached and people are drinking there's alcohol

03:33:35.880 involved there's drugs involved people will hook up at these venues they'll after these venues if you

03:33:42.360 go to trader joe's you're not getting finger banged in the bathroom after 10 minutes of talking to some

03:33:48.600 dude at trader joe's i've been to bars i've been to parties i've been to clubs i can agree with that

03:33:57.880 i've seen some shit go down people be fucking in the middle of the party sometimes i take a slightly

03:34:06.360 different approach here um so while i'm known for kind of giving logical arguments and this will be

03:34:13.480 one uh as well i'm going to try something a little different i'm going to try to make some emotional

03:34:18.280 appeals and perhaps it'll be a bit more effective sure so the does any do do any of you girls who are

03:34:25.400 here have any irrational fears are you afraid of things like a rational fear of spiders perhaps

03:34:30.760 anybody small space yeah small space any other irrational fears heights heights yeah that's an

03:34:38.040 irrational fear um and and perhaps you have uh bad dreams occasionally uh that give you bad intuitions

03:34:45.720 that are kind of irrational as well that happens often to women right i see some nodding heads well

03:34:51.960 what if you were to kind of suppose this also i think that often men are kind of left high and dry

03:34:57.000 on this because we're often kind of looked at as being extremely rational logical and i think men are

03:35:04.520 but they also have irrational fears and what if it's not a matter that they don't trust you

03:35:10.600 but it's a matter that they have an irrational fear that the fear itself perhaps is not a rational one

03:35:17.320 that you're going to go out and sleep with another guy if you go to a nightclub or something like this

03:35:21.880 but rather they don't want to have to worry themselves to death with irrational fears just

03:35:25.880 like with all the irrational fears that you expect them to kind of take care of on your behalf

03:35:31.800 that you don't want to be tortured with you want to be comforted so that you don't have to

03:35:35.640 deal with them then you would consider that to be a matter of respect like let's say if you had

03:35:39.800 a terrible dream or something like that with a bad intuition perhaps you just want to be comforted just

03:35:44.280 like have a hug right have them acknowledge that hey even though that that fear is kind of silly

03:35:49.640 don't worry about it honey i still love you and it's no big deal right wouldn't it be the same

03:35:54.280 thing on the other foot like couldn't we grant a little grace towards the irrational fear that men

03:35:58.280 could have when it comes to something like that doesn't that make sense yeah it's not completely

03:36:05.640 rational but just like you want to be comforted and respected for your rational fears don't they also

03:36:10.440 deserve that well i don't think at that point it would even be irrational because you know

03:36:15.880 you see stuff happen all the time you know to girls um well i'm not saying that i think even

03:36:22.680 irrational fears are based in something of a reality right why are you so afraid of a confined space for

03:36:28.920 instance well because you envision perhaps getting stuck in it or why are you so terrified of heights well

03:36:34.040 because perhaps you envision falling from a great height and that terrifies you

03:36:37.560 so that's that's based in a reality it's just the fear itself is irrational right but all those fears

03:36:44.520 are still based in some kind of reality so because you have these experiences like brian's talking about

03:36:49.560 in bars where there's a lot of drinking perhaps you've seen some fights or seen some weird things go

03:36:53.400 down the chance of that happening with your woman may be very very very small so therefore the fear

03:36:58.600 could be very irrational but shouldn't shouldn't there be a little grace granted and a little respect

03:37:02.840 granted to them for also their irrational fears not just your own yes so if you were more of an

03:37:10.280 extrovert and you did like going out but you didn't want your lady to go out would you honor what she's

03:37:18.440 saying and say okay i won't either because men go to the club to hook up with women women might go to

03:37:27.720 enjoy attention or this or that but men go usually specifically because they want to try to engage

03:37:34.840 with women or hook up with women like i could say a bar is different guy friends go to a bar hang out

03:37:41.000 watch sports whatever but clubs specifically i think men only go with one intention and it is to try

03:37:46.680 to pursue women to the point of sleeping with them sure so if you had a man if you well i don't know if you do

03:37:53.560 or not i'm sorry i mean it's just a hypothetical if you had a if you had a boyfriend husband whatever

03:37:58.760 and he wanted to go out to a club right and he said honey you don't trust me right you you would

03:38:05.480 say yeah i trust you but right because you have this this fear right right and the fear might not even

03:38:12.280 be rational completely rational but wouldn't it be very respectful of him to respect your wishes in that

03:38:17.960 instance and say you're right i'm going to stay home you know why why torture your mind with this

03:38:24.600 irrational fear that you have when i can just help you avoid it altogether yeah for sure i was just

03:38:30.040 wondering if brian agreed like so hang on hang on hang on so if that's if that happens in reverse then

03:38:34.920 with women where men say i don't want you to go out to a club i don't want you to go out to these bars

03:38:39.960 i don't want you shouldn't that isn't that also kind of a matter of respect then that you don't do

03:38:44.840 that on his behalf correct yeah i was agreeing i was just curious what what his ultimate answer was

03:38:50.440 if his lady said i you know i don't want either of us to go out to the club would he respect that or

03:38:57.880 is he saying as the man in the relationship he's going to say you don't i don't want you doing this

03:39:02.360 but i'll decide when and where and how i'll do this i was just curious if what she was saying he would

03:39:09.400 he would do that in in a relationship yeah so even just to answer your question really quick even if

03:39:14.840 i was extroverted i don't think any of my actual uh rational objections to going out to a nightclub

03:39:22.280 change whatsoever so like all those stupid things that come with nightlife don't change whether you're

03:39:28.920 introverted or extroverted there's probably extroverted people who also think nightclubs and

03:39:35.400 parties and bars are dumb as fuck but uh in a relationship you're more inclined like say you

03:39:43.400 you do enjoy going to the nightclub whatever and she's like well if i can't go i don't want you to

03:39:48.520 go either would i think i mean i think it's fair well okay like the situation would either be if i did

03:39:54.120 like to go out to the club it would probably be if if i i mean i'm putting myself in the position um

03:40:00.680 um and she is the scenario she's asking me to not go out and she's not going to go out or well she

03:40:08.360 basically said she wants to go you both should honor the same practices essentially yeah and if

03:40:13.640 you don't want her to go out then you shouldn't be able to go out yeah i guess yeah but isn't that

03:40:20.280 sure i guess isn't that isn't that revenge against a fear that one person has and the other one doesn't

03:40:25.560 i thought it's respect yeah yeah but no no no i i would agree with you if you had an irrational fear

03:40:32.200 or something that really would bother you and that's why you're asking them not to but what if

03:40:36.520 you don't share the same fear but you then then you just demand that they do it anyway that sounds like

03:40:41.560 revenge i i mean i don't see it that way i'm just saying she just like why would it be if you're not

03:40:48.440 actually afraid of it but if they're afraid of it and you're not right it'd be like this it'd be like

03:40:54.360 like i'm afraid of spiders so you also right you whenever i jump around screaming when a spider

03:41:00.280 comes around you also need to jump around screaming when a spider comes around that doesn't make a lot

03:41:04.520 of sense right so it would be the be the same thing applied here if you have a this great fear that you

03:41:11.160 know your your partner's going to do x thing and so that that person's going to kind of like assuage

03:41:16.600 that fear they're going to do what they can to assist you in that by by showing you the respect of not

03:41:21.400 making you worry yourself to death but you you don't have the fear which is reciprocal then

03:41:25.880 telling them not to do the thing sounds like it's revenge

03:41:31.320 like well if i can't then you can't like how that that's wouldn't that be the opposite of fairness

03:41:37.720 i'll move it on after your answer if you i i don't i'm okay all right um i will move it on we

03:41:45.000 see now i'll have you read this one the wife that wants to travel to another twitch damon go ahead

03:41:51.000 country without her husband or to a nightclub with her friend is actually already single he just doesn't

03:41:57.560 know it yet do you have a response to this uh yeah i'm never leaving my husband so okay and can we

03:42:04.920 add some context like we're we've been best friends for years i introduced her to her husband so i know him

03:42:09.880 very well like recently we've had this conversation over the last few years about being able to travel

03:42:16.360 down to mexico and now she's been invited to a bachelorette party where no husbands are going

03:42:22.680 all of the wives or girlfriends or whatever are going as a group and so should she not like should

03:42:30.520 she not be trusted to be cautious and to be careful and to still be allowed to go and enjoy that i'm not

03:42:37.400 letting my girlfriend or wife going to a bachelorette party so you would you go and like hang out nearby

03:42:45.800 no she's not she's not going so then if you were invited would you go here let me let me paint it

03:42:51.640 like this that was what i was getting you can go you can go the relationship is over it was nice to

03:42:57.960 meet you we have different values you're not respecting my boundaries i'm not going to control you

03:43:02.920 you go ahead and get drunk and have your male stripper that that is not conduct that's extreme

03:43:11.480 that is not conduct conducive to in my view in terms of what i want in a partner to a long-term

03:43:18.280 relationship or marriage would you can do a bachelor party no would your wife have a bachelorette i

03:43:24.280 wouldn't i these dudes who get strippers that's fucking weird it's not about strippers bachelorette

03:43:29.480 parties are not for only strippers okay well look well then like you can go you know what's crazy

03:43:34.920 and have no dude well then sure sure hang on sure you're right if there's absolutely going to be zero

03:43:40.440 strippers there and you guys are just like hanging out and sewing stuff then yeah she can go sure

03:43:44.360 or just sitting at a resort just on at the pool where you don't even leave the resort well that's

03:43:49.720 different when you say a bachelorette party right what comes to mind is not a resort where you're

03:43:55.800 sitting at the pool what comes to mind is that you're at a male strip club right that's that's

03:44:01.880 what comes to mind or there's like but if you're saying if you're or there's strippers involved if

03:44:06.680 you're saying that is not the case right and the bachelorette party is well me and the girls are just

03:44:11.800 going to get together in the local resort and have some drinks and this and that uh then why what would

03:44:18.200 even the problem be there right like why even bring that up as being something in which would be

03:44:23.400 controlling for for somebody to say yes or no to right there what's even objectionable there

03:44:28.440 i'm just saying there's a specific reason and event to go out of the country whether they decide to

03:44:33.960 partake in activities that are inappropriate is totally different than trusting your wife

03:44:38.680 to be able to travel safely and come back safely and still make the still make the choices while she's

03:44:44.920 there to not engage in inappropriate activity that's her choice that's respect we're back to the idea of

03:44:49.880 trust right and so the idea is that i don't think it's a breach of trust for somebody to have fears

03:44:55.560 which may not be considered by you to be rational so for instance i'm not in your brain so i don't know

03:45:01.800 what goes on in your brain uh there's a good possibility you're the most trustworthy person on

03:45:06.520 planet earth and you know if you go to a place like that that you would never do anything like that

03:45:12.520 but your your significant other doesn't know that they don't know that for sure they can think it

03:45:18.600 they can 100 put as much faith in it as they possibly can but they could still have an irrational

03:45:24.600 field of fear there or uh even in this case even a legitimate fear and why why not do everything

03:45:31.320 you could to placate that person's fear by something so simple something so simple is just

03:45:36.520 it's not all about me but also about you too and if it's all about us and not just me then if this

03:45:43.160 really bothers you that much i don't want your brain tortured i don't want your mind tortured i don't

03:45:47.640 want you hurting so i'm gonna stay here with you instead that seems that that seems like a great

03:45:53.480 compromise but didn't you say that it was revenge respond real quick i just i don't i can't agree i

03:46:01.560 don't agree with you like i um i think it's it's it's one thing to say oh i have an irrational fear

03:46:09.960 but it's another to let irrational fear control how you're going to conduct your relationship and

03:46:14.600 where you go and what you do again i gave i gave a very valid i gave a very valid option of right

03:46:20.440 like if you feel so strongly that it could be unsafe travel with her there stay in the same hotel

03:46:26.760 allow her to do the things with the group of girls that are not inappropriate and be there and be a

03:46:32.520 protector for her if that's how strongly you feel remember that all of this is a compromise on her

03:46:37.480 behalf what's her compromise sometimes relationships are compromises hang on hang on let me ask the

03:46:41.560 question what's the compromise on his behalf what are what is she compromising for him in this

03:46:49.800 situation she's not the one restricting him yeah yeah let her answer the question we don't need the

03:46:55.560 sisterhood thanks you mean i mean at this point nothing like but yeah at different points in a

03:47:01.880 relationship you make different compromises hang on so in this case in this case in the situation

03:47:06.760 right the idea here is he makes all the compromise you make none this time hang on so the idea the

03:47:15.240 idea here is that well then why should he compromise at all why not dig in his heels instead and say no

03:47:22.760 i don't think you should go and i don't want you to go and whether or not you think that that's fair

03:47:26.920 or irrational i'm going to stick by my guns like you're sticking by yours that doesn't seem like it's

03:47:31.320 very healthy well there will be i'm sure many other situations where she will have to compromise

03:47:36.840 for him maybe this situation no but he can make that compromise now and she can make our relationship

03:47:43.240 all sorts of compromises made across a wide spectrum for all sorts of things perhaps

03:47:49.320 she has issues with money right this is a very common thing women want to see x amount of money in

03:47:54.280 the bank account for large expenditures so the man compromises a large expenditure that he wants to make

03:47:59.320 so that she feels that sense of security that happens all the time in relationships it's one

03:48:04.200 of the number one reasons people get divorced in fact is over money because they want they don't

03:48:08.280 want a larger expenditure men like to spend on large expenditures they'd like to take a little

03:48:12.520 bit more risk with money women like to take less risk with money so a compromise right okay you

03:48:17.880 can see the fatter bank account that's great okay but i also don't want you to go gallivanting to europe

03:48:24.040 okay for a bachelorette party do you think you can do that for me that seems to be a pretty

03:48:29.960 reasonable ask and it seems like it's very self selfish and self-centered to instead say no i'm a

03:48:36.440 boss babe i do what i want and there's no the compromise only works here one way but i didn't

03:48:41.480 say i'm a boss babe and i do what i want i said there are options you specifically either way for any

03:48:46.840 woman if you're rational and you can think and you can say like you are you willing to do this and make

03:48:51.960 this compromise so that i can be there for this important event and then obviously prior and later

03:48:57.560 on down the road i will make compromises for you as well that's just how relationships work yeah but

03:49:02.840 we're not going to compromise on the thing that that he wants now right this is like in this case

03:49:08.520 he does all the compromise you do none right why would this be a deal breaker would this be a deal

03:49:14.600 breaker to compromise on this and say i mean i think the compromise i think the compromise would be

03:49:19.720 him attending the bachelorette and being on property while i'm participating in this process

03:49:26.520 and that is something that we have discussed so you know i can understand i even feel like

03:49:32.120 i've said this with my partner that i feel like you know his reservations are coming from a place of

03:49:36.600 fear so i'm glad that you brought that up because i think you articulated it well um the compromise for me

03:49:44.120 would be him going with me and traveling to the place that we're going for the bachelorette and then

03:49:49.320 kind of checking in and out while we do the girls only kind of stuff well why well wait i mean that

03:49:55.160 doesn't assuage the fear that why so so well if he's with me then that does well no no if he's checking

03:50:01.720 out while you're doing the girls portion of it right that that defeats the entire purpose of what creates

03:50:06.760 the fear to begin with can you expand on that what's that yeah if if you said he checks out while

03:50:14.360 you do whatever the girls portion is right yeah like he wouldn't go to the to the spa with the

03:50:19.000 girls because he's not like it's not but that defeats the purpose it's what you're doing with the girls

03:50:24.600 that is so concerning right and that's the problem no it's for him it's the travel out of the country

03:50:29.880 without him that is the problem i mean in this case maybe perhaps it's a good enough compromise to say

03:50:34.920 you're going with me to the place you know what i mean so that you can see with your own eyeballs

03:50:39.800 and you know that in some ways you know mitigates your fear perhaps that's fair enough to do uh but

03:50:46.440 i think it's also fair to compromise and just say well you know if this really is such a problem for

03:50:51.000 you then it just won't go you know i just won't go if it really is something that's going to torture

03:50:57.400 your brain it's going to torture your mind well even if i don't think it's rational necessarily i know

03:51:02.200 that you uh remember that i do all sorts of things that are rational all the time and have

03:51:06.840 all sorts of fears which are irrational all the time and you know you're pretty understanding about

03:51:11.960 those so you know i'll be understanding about this and for some but i i think for for women often what

03:51:18.040 happens is they they only see the compromise on the one side because men generally tend to be so

03:51:23.640 logical they forget that they also have fears whether whether you think they're rational or not

03:51:27.800 i definitely see both sides where andrew's coming from like i've you know i've been in a situation

03:51:35.800 where you know me and my friends were planning on going to mexico it ended up not happening anyways but

03:51:43.160 my boyfriend you know he expressed his concerns about my safety and i don't think it was

03:51:50.120 like me personally i don't think it was controlling in any way which i think that's

03:51:54.680 a lot of what women think that that is is like they're just being controlling but like in that

03:51:59.800 situation i mean he was he was looking out for my safety let's just assume for a second it is

03:52:04.200 controlling like so what when in relationships we control each other's behavior all the time we

03:52:09.400 control our preferences all the time we control all sorts of things and the behavior of the person that

03:52:14.040 we're with uh for the for i mean for the purpose of necessity we have to do this people can people

03:52:19.800 have to control each other literally at least to some degree you know otherwise you wouldn't even

03:52:24.680 know what your significant other's preferences were you know there's always a segment of control in a

03:52:30.840 relationship i just think that that's fine i don't i don't see why that's a big deal exactly yeah

03:52:37.320 you know i think that i mean that seems totally reasonable to me that both sides in a relationship

03:52:42.120 want to have control over different arenas for different reasons and they have to give a give and take right

03:52:47.320 i'm gonna let a couple chats come in really quick before we do that though quick question on this um

03:52:56.440 the uh what is it would you guys want to i guess control like let's say your boyfriend or husband

03:53:06.520 wants to go to the strip club would you tell him no i don't want you to go to the strip club or would

03:53:13.560 you be totally fine with it going around the table go ahead i'll go with him okay but he wanted to go

03:53:19.080 alone or with his boys i wouldn't mind honestly wouldn't mind okay yeah no you'd have an issue with

03:53:26.600 it okay i would say no you would say no i would say yes you'd be fine with it okay i'd say no no i'm

03:53:36.040 fine with it fine with it okay i'm fine with it okay no knowing my boyfriend now he would not even

03:53:43.160 take a million dollars to walk into a strip club well if if he did though you would you would have an

03:53:48.360 issue with that yeah but here here we get to the heart of it right so in this case honey i would

03:53:54.600 trust you to go out to a strip club why wouldn't you trust me to go out to europe so this is the

03:53:59.560 this is the idea here right it's like i would trust you to do that but you don't trust me to do this

03:54:04.680 um but it really it really doesn't have anything to do with the logical aspect right it has to do with

03:54:10.440 the respect of assuaging the fear of the person that you're that you love i mean that's that's what

03:54:15.720 i think it ultimately would boil down to right and also some people might say well the strip club's

03:54:21.720 different and i agree i agree with you the strip club is different and here's how that guy walking

03:54:30.040 into the strip club has a zero percent chance of fucking any of the strippers but that doesn't matter

03:54:39.000 the dip but but and the strippers don't want to fuck him right uh but you go to a nightclub

03:54:47.080 if you're like uh if the guys okay like 99 of the club want to fuck you and that's the difference

03:54:59.000 anyways we have some chats coming in from our good friend bro okay law paladins my dude law pounds you

03:55:09.720 fucking start leveling up dude fuck season of discovery bro you're

03:55:13.240 fucking you're gonna be the main we'll see you know if you put in the effort you'll be the main

03:55:19.480 tank for the whatever guild start fucking leveling bro we need you to help us raid lead guild lead

03:55:27.160 anniversary era anniversary realms get with it lol paladins audio hello is there no audio

03:55:34.760 oh that's weird it was it muted normally it makes like a little they have a lot or does not make

03:55:44.600 yeah they do it's okay though oh go ahead and cena read it it's not about safety she wants her cake

03:55:52.360 go ahead and also wants her cake eaten too she may not leave her husband i bet he's providing

03:55:59.560 something something something she finds useful if that ends she's gone there's no another one

03:56:06.040 coming through i'll have you read it then i'll have you respond if you want to go ahead one sec sorry

03:56:11.560 it's taking a moment lol paladins thank you man the compromise is she gets some new penis in mexico he

03:56:19.240 gets to pay alimony alimony sounds very sounds very fair you have a response to either of those

03:56:25.640 um i mean i'm not leaving my husband i'm very satisfied with where i'm at and not looking for

03:56:32.360 a new penis so good times all right moving on um okay let's go to we need to get to the questionnaire

03:56:40.120 so i'm gonna get through uh kyla um male privilege you had thoughts on it go ahead yeah um i know that

03:56:48.520 most girls nowadays think that um male privilege is a thing but i think it's quite opposite um

03:56:55.480 being a female i know that there's a lot that can get handed to me just yeah say you know going to

03:57:03.000 a bar or whatnot i've been offered free drinks um by either you know bartenders or some random person

03:57:10.440 a guy that's not gonna happen um it's pretty pretty rare that as a guy you're gonna get um things handed

03:57:20.120 to you like that um i think that yeah i just think it's a total myth and the myth of male privilege

03:57:26.840 okay yeah yeah yeah and what about like beyond dating though there's the talk of male privilege

03:57:32.600 just in society do you think that's also fake news or myth oh yeah 100 percent girls think especially

03:57:40.520 now you know with trump being in office they think that their female rights are being taken away which is a

03:57:47.240 total myth they have more rights than men do i feel like just like what i said as an example

03:57:55.000 um they get away with a lot more um in court systems i think you all know what i'm talking

03:58:01.640 about in certain cases they get away with it a lot more than men do um and i just think it's really

03:58:09.880 backwards how most females think about male privilege being a thing

03:58:16.600 word um sorry guys my papers are out of order here um

03:58:23.880 and then you had something on a guy asked you to be his girlfriend the night you met

03:58:28.360 yes okay um i think he was just drunk and i just laughed at him i just thought it was crazy though

03:58:34.200 that someone would ask that that's called a red flag stranger yeah red flag okay

03:58:39.080 okay love bombing anyone on on the note of um hold on let me just see here i'm gonna skip a little

03:58:49.240 bit ahead to i think only one person said they disagreed with i think it was you jasmine right or

03:58:58.440 uh you're five three right yes okay this you didn't put your name but i'm assuming that's you

03:59:04.440 okay um there is no right a man has that a woman does not to which you disagreed uh what's that

03:59:13.480 i'm i'm sorry what was the question there's in the questionnaire you disagreed that there is no

03:59:22.280 right a man has to the woman does not okay yeah i i disagreed because i took it the way i understood

03:59:31.720 it i could be completely wrong um i kind of correlated with kind of the same quite uh what

03:59:38.520 you just said right now uh where in the sense that how for example in workplaces um a lot of women

03:59:45.000 will say well oh men get uh paid more or they will get um a better position or will get hired quicker

03:59:53.720 will get this job offered to them here let me i apologize for interrupting you um but just for

04:00:01.160 the sake of time the the statement was do you disagree there is no right a man has that a woman

04:00:10.360 does not so you don't disagree then i don't disagree no because we all women actually have more of a

04:00:18.440 right okay so perhaps it was just an error there um okay so your position is women have more rights

04:00:26.600 than men do okay so then never mind uh going back to kyla then you said abortion is an excuse for girls

04:00:34.280 to sleep around yes absolutely um not every single case um i know you know the exception that i have

04:00:43.160 along with a lot of conservatives are you know in very rare cases of uh rape and incest or the

04:00:52.680 women's body not being able to carry the child um those discluded i believe that a lot of girls use

04:01:01.240 abortion as an excuse let's just skip the i know angie you want to all right but i'll leave it let's just

04:01:08.840 we'll skip the abortion i think it's used as an excuse um all right uh okay so going to your notes

04:01:17.240 jasmine uh any past involvement in sex work not involvement in sex work um i some something like

04:01:26.680 yeah i basically had like a sugar daddy oh f stripping no no stripping no escorting just uh like

04:01:33.480 a sugar daddy all right and uh was there a butt in there or i was gonna say it was like it was like

04:01:45.320 an involvement with someone but that person just became like a sugar daddy there was no sexual

04:01:51.240 encounters or anything like that okay you said your first boyfriend when you were 16 was a drug addict

04:01:56.840 and you didn't know that until two years into your relationship he was your first everything

04:02:01.480 unfortunately he passed away from an od yes okay uh what drug um it was uh can i say them out loud

04:02:12.600 i mean i guess it doesn't uh it's um it was chris crystal and uh met met okay um you sometime after

04:02:23.480 his death you met someone who you did for three years you got married when you were 22 yes uh it ended up

04:02:30.920 really bad that it ended in divorce you you initiated the divorce yes um you felt like life

04:02:37.880 was going downhill you contemplated going into what they call a hoe phase yes yeah did you go you were

04:02:45.480 crashing out did you go into the hoe phase uh no that's when the whole sugar daddy thing went that's

04:02:50.120 where my the whole butt thing came in so you you thought about the hoe phase yes i thought about it

04:02:54.680 you thought about it didn't do it didn't do it okay no didn't do it the closest i came was with the

04:03:02.120 whole sugar daddy thing and yeah it says here you were almost pimped out yes by somebody the same man

04:03:10.040 wait the guy the sugar daddy guy or the uh the sugar daddy guy guy sugar daddy he was a he was like a

04:03:16.840 literal pimp yes yes oh so but when you say almost pimped out like it was just like a bj or um like

04:03:24.280 he no he almost wanted like he basically yeah wanted to make me one of his like right because

04:03:30.440 i mean obviously we hooked up it was like you know a thing um then i found out okay yeah what he did

04:03:36.280 and then um you know it says you were jumping motel to motel yes but then there you didn't have any

04:03:43.240 clients or anything no but he was trying to get you yeah i would just help him around with whatever

04:03:49.240 girls he was working with whenever he would leave uh to a different state or anything like that i would

04:03:55.480 just um whatever he would tell me to do i would just do that so you're like a helper wait you assisted

04:04:02.200 him in pimping essentially yeah you would say that smack a hoe no you were you were a madam not a

04:04:10.200 madam that's like a bottom she's like an assistant that's like like yeah wait wait wait wait i thought

04:04:17.320 a madam was a woman who ran a a female house of ill review quick question what do you call them

04:04:25.320 yeah quick question were you assistant pimp or assistant to the pimp assistant to the pimp not

04:04:33.400 assistant pimp yeah assistant to the pimp okay got it just but maybe this is too personal but you

04:04:39.800 guys were sleeping together yes yeah so that's more of like i mean yeah essentially the bottom because

04:04:47.240 uh yeah i i because that'd be the top bitch in in order that's what it's called in the game it's

04:04:52.920 called a bottom bitch in order for me to like live with him in the places motels i would obviously like

04:05:00.360 you know if i wasn't going to perform with other men i had to perform with i see wait really quick

04:05:05.720 bottom bitch wait wait wait hang on you but what wait wait how do you move that on brian don't move

04:05:10.280 that on okay okay he's like wait you wait a second you were performing in hotels with women no no no

04:05:17.960 no um it was just after like it was just him and i in the motel um or in the place wherever we were

04:05:24.600 we would you know get intimate and then that would be it we would go to it would be like

04:05:30.680 an open think i guess an open relationship but it would be a pimp and i guess whatever you say a

04:05:37.480 top bitch or a bottom bitch bottom bottom bitch yeah he was paying how much was he paying you per

04:05:42.520 month he was just a lot i was doing it for food and shelter oh yeah yeah damn this was after my divorce

04:05:49.240 okay so i mean i mean forgive my language here oh no go ahead this is inaccurate but you were

04:05:57.400 prostituting yourself essentially essentially yeah it was it was basically you could call it that

04:06:02.840 because this wasn't this wasn't a man who was respecting me this was uh like i said that's why

04:06:07.080 i said it was like uh basically a hoe face did he record videos um of me i thought you said you

04:06:14.280 didn't do the whole face with the whole i then i guess i did i mean that's he's like essentially

04:06:21.720 trying to groom her that's the process and so i mean he was trying to groom a fully grown adult

04:06:29.480 right but i'm saying i'm saying using who's using their body for resources i'm not so sure that that's

04:06:35.400 what i would call i'm saying he's trying to groom her into being one of his hoes if he's just sleeping

04:06:41.480 with her and then having her run errands and blah blah blah that's different i just want to also

04:06:45.880 put out here really quickly i'm don't have the ability to go work like i am not legally from here

04:06:56.280 so my process to like wait you're an illegal yes so i couldn't i'm calling ice right now i couldn't

04:07:04.200 matriotic duty you're going i couldn't i couldn't work so he would also you're going right back today

04:07:13.800 he would also use that because he knew that so i couldn't just like believe me if i could go

04:07:18.200 mcdonald's pays 20 an hour if i could go and work a decent job then i would i had to do

04:07:25.160 multiple things there's plenty of illegal immigrants who oh no no no yeah but there's there's a certain

04:07:31.240 category that you have to go through i was a ghost in the system at the time well no they pay like

04:07:35.960 under the table well yeah but you it's it's very very difficult and a lot of times you have to be a

04:07:41.320 guy to get those jobs because like i said it's labor jobs that you do sure when i did do the certain

04:07:47.720 jobs like that um i was doing them with my father at that point i wasn't with my father one question

04:07:53.560 though um how many hoes did he have it was a variety of girls it would be sometimes five

04:08:01.560 for the for the most part it would be like he was like a he wasn't just like a a pimp he was a pimp

04:08:10.360 like yeah it was it was like you know it was it was yeah damn son you know i was just i was just

04:08:18.440 taking note here as i was thinking about this story your english is really good i don't really

04:08:23.960 even detect that much of an a lot of people say that yeah i got here when i was three years old

04:08:29.080 um yeah so so wait so since you were three years old you have been unable to work in the domestic

04:08:35.480 united states even though you were married but did you marry an american citizen yes but we did not

04:08:40.600 process any type of paperwork i did not marry for that yeah i know but as a person who marries an american

04:08:47.720 citizen you have a pathway then to legal citizenship yeah no we didn't we he no he did not want to do

04:08:54.040 that we did not we did not do that that was not an option um and yes i've been here since three years

04:09:01.240 of age i only have five people in my family that are here we have a very five we're very uh culturally

04:09:10.200 strict family um it's not like you know they don't know the laws either a lot of my my whole family

04:09:15.720 only two people in my family which are my siblings are legally here um i'm in the process now of

04:09:23.320 getting my paperwork thank god and so yeah at the time i had them like like i said earlier my mentality

04:09:30.120 was far gone so i was thinking whatever it takes whatever i need to do which was obviously reckless

04:09:36.840 it was not correct it what did you do for work to get yourself out of that situation i'm sorry you

04:09:41.560 couldn't work what did you do for work if you couldn't work to get yourself out of that situation

04:09:45.320 eventually i found uh smoke shops the tobacco industry so like how i am right now uh thankfully

04:09:52.440 i've been managing the smoke shop for uh quite quite some time now it's about to be

04:09:58.840 almost two years um the smoke shop hires illegals a lot of smoke shops believe it or not yeah i do i do

04:10:05.400 have to move things on i do have to move things on we have two chats hail and well met lol paladins

04:10:12.120 donated two hundred dollars and two cents you're just gonna throw me under the bus bro i'm out here

04:10:18.840 in the mean streets of the barons i'm level 18 and running wailing caverns tonight what level are you

04:10:25.800 look you know uh i've been very busy the past you know it came out on thursday i got shows on sunday

04:10:32.040 tuesday i'm i'm level 14 okay cut the guy break you know i work i'm very busy when we're 60 though

04:10:40.440 i'ma duel you in front of orgrimmar lol paladins i'm just telling you man you better hold on let me

04:10:46.600 play some music for you bro hold on where is it hold on it's gonna be like

04:10:52.040 you are not prepared i'm gonna fucking i mean i know that's burning crusade or whatever the

04:11:01.880 fuck and we're playing classic and shit but bro it's gonna be what are you playing bro what do you

04:11:07.400 love lol paladins you can't you were you shaman you can't even play paladin on horde side bro your

04:11:12.920 main class you can't even play it i'm a rogue dude i've been playing rogue since 2005 son i'm just gonna

04:11:19.560 boom fucking come up and you're gonna let me get the opener because that's what you know if you're

04:11:25.000 a gentleman you're gonna do that in the duel right boom open cheap shot fucking backstep kidney shot

04:11:31.480 boom gouge re-stealth doom cheap shot boom fucking cold uh eviscerate boom you're dead gg gg

04:11:41.800 little paladins boom stick that in your pipe and smoke it

04:11:53.160 okay go ahead cena read this shit to the only fans girl do you believe there is nothing wrong

04:11:58.920 with what you do if that's the case would you have issue about family

04:12:03.720 subbing to your content if so why the contradiction would how would you feel if your dad

04:12:11.800 mm-hmm registered on only fans and his name was big daddy 77 nice and he started messaging your

04:12:21.800 type or whether or messaging you on of and he was like asking for customs and he's like i want you

04:12:28.920 to make send a video of you know what like my dad wants your my content yeah does he tell that he's her

04:12:39.080 dad i don't know he just confuses her with another asian woman but wouldn't he be able to know that

04:12:45.960 i'm his daughter i don't know maybe you're i don't know will he text it like hey maybe great breakfast

04:12:54.360 this morning i think the context of the question is if like if you were to continue this work and you

04:13:02.840 found out that a family member was going to or has subscribed to your content would that give you

04:13:09.400 any conflicting feelings about your performances yes yes i don't know all right thank you vector for

04:13:18.600 the uh message i do appreciate it uh okay and then uh i guess going back to you jasmine and as far as

04:13:25.560 your notes go uh let's see you were saying dating topics you'd love to speak on going 50 50 with a

04:13:31.560 man on a date uh how women should conduct themselves on the first date so do you think women should go

04:13:36.520 50 50 or what what's your position quick on that just based on right now how things are right now i

04:13:44.360 think it's a smarter decision for both genders to go 50 50. oh okay um uh let's see i actually talk a

04:13:54.520 a lot of women about why it's really negative thing to become a feminist uh you try to educate

04:13:58.920 more young women on the roots of feminism and how this whole ideology of being an independent woman

04:14:03.800 started um so you're anti-feminist essentially okay going around the table do you consider yourself

04:14:11.080 a feminist starting with you uh no okay no yes no no no no no nope just you there oh okay all right

04:14:24.520 uh there it is then um i'm gonna get into the questionnaire then uh going around the table

04:14:31.160 would you rather some of you said well would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest

04:14:37.160 you said neither you can't pick neither oh well then a man yeah um man man man man bear man man

04:14:52.520 okay just one bear why do you pick bear and why don't you pick me i wish you watched this episode

04:14:57.480 um into the mic i picked bear because i grew up camping and hunting and so i feel like i have a

04:15:06.040 better understanding of what to do in that situation and men can be more unpredictable

04:15:11.000 all right well real quick what do you do in that situation what do i do in that situation

04:15:15.960 i make a lot of noise yeah i make a lot of noise and try to scare the bear away they're

04:15:21.880 definitely more afraid of me than i am a bit you make a bunch of noise yeah

04:15:28.280 blow your arms maybe probably don't you run towards it no you don't run towards it you don't

04:15:34.520 want to show aggression yeah you want to make yourself look big and you want to slowly walk away

04:15:39.000 you can't outrun it so trying to run is a little dumb is it not for specific bears huh like it's

04:15:44.760 like black bears well i grew up camping in yosemite so i'm i'm talking well uh that's just

04:15:51.880 we're not gonna linger too long on this just because there's only one bear answer um what so

04:15:55.800 you've made like a an assessment that there's a risk with it when it comes to man uh while the

04:16:01.000 bear could kill you the man i'm assuming your position would be well the man could do like other

04:16:05.480 worse things essentially yes yeah what percentage of men then do you think would do this um i think

04:16:13.720 it's a low percentage of men that would how much i'm i don't know the statistics what do you think

04:16:20.280 or how do you feel 10 20 30 more i think that 50 50 10 of men given the opportunity would make a poor

04:16:29.640 choice that's without knowing any statistics so and does this include like is that fair would this

04:16:41.320 also include um like 10 of your uh male relatives yes even 10 of your own family members yes you're

04:16:50.840 prepared to say that they are also great beasts i think that presented with the opportunity 10 of men

04:16:58.360 or less would make a bad decision including your immediate family members yes okay well

04:17:09.000 that's all i got for that really okay all right moving on i guess uh you think i don't

04:17:13.080 think you like couldn't you just like yell and flow your arms scare them off

04:17:19.400 i mean i don't think i can outrun a man and i don't think that men are afraid of women

04:17:24.040 you're gonna outrun a bear i think a bear is more easily startled by a loud being that it doesn't

04:17:31.640 understand that a man is by a woman oh uh one last question on this i guess uh does it change if

04:17:37.400 it's 10 men versus 10 bears and then versus 10 bears yeah yeah i think i'd still choose the bear how

04:17:45.720 about the 100 men 100 bears um i mean that would be like a 50 50 split for me at that point it's

04:17:53.000 a lot of bears okay but 10 men 10 bears i'm just curious though you said uh and i think your number

04:17:59.240 is high and it doesn't really reflect actual crime statistics but you said 10 percent or lower i

04:18:05.160 clarify later sure okay but let's just if we use the even the higher number the highest number you gave

04:18:10.360 10 percent that'd be one of the 10 men would do this if they were all there they're all there

04:18:17.080 right it's um don't you think the nine men that wouldn't be inclined to do this nine men versus one

04:18:23.560 man they could easily pull him off you like what do you think that nine other men would do in that

04:18:30.440 situation so i wasn't i wasn't taking into account that all 10 men would have input into the

04:18:37.240 circumstances i think that if there were 10 men present the one man would be less likely to

04:18:41.800 misbehave because of the presence of the other men but you still picked bear 10 men versus 10 bears

04:18:49.640 you still pick 10 bears i did not consider the opportunity that the other nine men would be

04:18:55.640 preventative measures to the one i didn't consider that when i gave my answer to to the bear so if

04:19:01.320 if we can say that yeah 99 of those men would stop that one man then i'd probably go with the 10

04:19:05.960 man not necessarily but i'm just using your own statistics if you were lost in yosemite and you

04:19:11.640 were in the forest for a couple of days and you saw a random man would you ask him for your help

04:19:16.360 if i had been lost yeah for sure yeah but but wouldn't 10 of them then viciously essay you

04:19:25.320 i mean if i'm lost it's kind of like a moot point at this point i'm trying to survive

04:19:29.560 oh wait that's very strange if the risk is essay and survival i'm gonna choose survival for sure

04:19:35.800 that's super strange to me though right here's why that's super strange because if you if if

04:19:41.640 essay would be preferable to getting mauled by a bear right then why would being lost in the forest not

04:19:47.560 be preferable to being potentially essayed i don't understand that it's it's where you are in the process

04:19:54.200 right so have i been lost for one day like i feel pretty comfortable and confident in my abilities

04:19:59.560 to survive and lost for three days again i'm still pretty comfortable but again if i haven't seen

04:20:05.800 anybody then yeah i'm going to talk to the one human that i'm coming across i just want to let you know

04:20:11.080 that here's your order of operations for preferences this is why it just doesn't make that much sense to

04:20:15.880 me you would prefer to be spawned in with a bear even though there's a good potential that the bear

04:20:21.640 would maul you to death being spawned in the forest with you uh versus a man because the potential is

04:20:27.320 that one in ten men would make what you call a bad decision which i assume is to essay you if we were

04:20:33.080 to extrapolate that logic that means then one in a ten men that you would run into in the forest would

04:20:38.520 also do this right so why why is that the threshold breaker that being so i guess maybe hang on hang on

04:20:44.840 let me finish the question why would it be the case in that being lost in the forest was less

04:20:49.640 preferable to essay than being mauled by a bear well i guess i'm not really considering essay

04:20:55.160 being worse than being mauled i feel like if a man tried to attempt to essay me i would fight to

04:21:01.320 the death so i'm dying either way so that's why i would choose the bear i would rather die brutally

04:21:07.000 than have to fight off these well then why wouldn't you just prefer to stay lost in the forest rather

04:21:11.800 than have the potential of the essay that would that doesn't make any sense well at three days i mean

04:21:17.160 i'm looking at death either way so that's where the logic comes from yeah but wouldn't you rather

04:21:21.960 die in the forest than die being essayed because you're fighting to the death i mean starvation is

04:21:27.400 a very slow death so depending on where i'm at again in that process the ratio will the scale will slide

04:21:35.320 okay level of desperation i guess is where i'm at well uh i guess moving it on really quick question

04:21:41.880 for you actually um you're what what's actually then never mind never mind it's just like something

04:21:46.840 about your something in your instagram not a big deal though uh let's see here going back to the

04:21:52.760 questionnaire or actually really quick can we pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever oh he was

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04:23:17.080 questionnaire how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date uh you use

04:23:23.640 the gen mark uh 172 centimeters i don't even know what that is seven you're five seven okay and uh how

04:23:33.240 big for a guy the same or taller yeah okay so you know what about you uh i'm five two

04:23:42.920 and then i said honestly if you really think about it height doesn't matter that much

04:23:48.120 okay don't care any height uh what do you date a guy who's 4 11. shorter than me yeah sure yeah i'll

04:23:57.160 i'll kneel would you don would you dominate i'll kneel you'll kneel yeah i'll get on my knees oh use

04:24:04.040 a stool yeah yeah cool uh isabella you're five eight uh minimum height of a man you would date five

04:24:14.600 five five six five five all right katie what about you i'm like five four five five i put on there

04:24:21.960 six feet i have dated shorter than that but i won't again i don't think all right uh you are five

04:24:29.880 foot three uh i would date five nine i date shorter either okay uh what about you i'm five four the

04:24:39.240 shortest guy i dated was my same height so i would do that again okay how tall is your husband he's

04:24:44.760 five ten five ten okay what about you the yeah i would date a guy the same height as me and you're

04:24:52.120 how tall five four okay and then i'm five four um just anything taller than me really how tall is your

04:24:59.720 uh fiance or boyfriend he is he's gonna get mad at me if i say this wrong um i think he's five eleven and

04:25:07.640 three four five ten five ten okay sorry if i got that wrong how dare you get my height wrong is

04:25:18.680 wayne brady gonna have to choke a bitch um okay next question what would you want the minimum yearly

04:25:25.160 income to be for your future husband i don't really care so you'll date a mcdonald's worker yeah

04:25:33.480 really like all of my ex-boyfriends yeah okay cena seven figures so like a million yeah plus a year

04:25:43.240 okay all right how how much did your ex make my ex your ex he was a kid yeah how much did he make

04:25:54.520 his paper on his paper route a month or a year on his paper route on his paper route i don't know

04:26:02.600 okay never mind seven dollars sweet what about you isabella when i'm older 75k preferably six figures

04:26:10.680 but okay katie what about you i said 200 000 minimum yeah i mean i could i give or take a little bit but

04:26:21.320 yeah that would okay what about you as long as we're surviving yeah how much do you live in where

04:26:28.760 in la in like how much do you need to survive in la i i suck this is why i leave the finances to my

04:26:37.320 to my man i here let me ask a couple clarifying questions you want kids yes how many kids uh two

04:26:43.320 at the most two okay uh you want to stay living in los angeles um maybe and do you want to also be

04:26:51.080 working or do you want to be stay at home and take care of the kids um i want to work but my fiancee

04:26:58.120 wants me to be a stay at home once i have kids okay because you're engaged right yes okay so i mean

04:27:04.040 just the economic realities i mean he's gonna have to earn a certain amount in order to like fulfill his

04:27:09.480 wants and then your your own kind of desires i guess uh how much does your current guy make um he

04:27:17.080 makes god he has two i'm so sorry he has two well-paying jobs right now i don't know exactly the

04:27:25.960 amounts i i honestly don't ask he just kind of handles all the money and yeah that's pretty much

04:27:33.000 it you guys live together yes we do he pays all the bills yes all the rent yes all the dates yes okay

04:27:40.360 all right it wasn't always like that though sure sure i was gonna add to that would be if i was a

04:27:44.920 stay-at-home mom the two like yeah do you want do you you don't have kids right i don't have kids

04:27:51.240 i'm almost aged out hey you gotta um i i at this point i see both ways like i could see being a mom i

04:28:01.320 would love to do that but i also can see my life not going that way uh going over to uh you amanda you

04:28:08.760 are already married um if you're comfortable sharing how much does the husband make we make

04:28:15.960 the same amount okay you guys you guys are we contribute equally yeah uh riley 100 or how much

04:28:23.400 would you want 150 150k a year and um you you're in a your software engineer right yeah and so do you

04:28:32.520 make pretty good money you make six figures okay and then kyla what about you um just anything more

04:28:40.440 than me because i believe i'm very traditional so i believe that the guy should be able to provide for

04:28:45.320 me but i also don't want him being the only one financially okay i want to do the uh delusional

04:28:52.040 calculator for

04:28:57.240 for katie katie we're gonna do the delusional calculator okay it's fun it's fun and then i

04:29:03.880 suppose we'll do it for riley also and then maybe for cena let's go ahead all right uh this is for katie

04:29:13.800 age that you would date age that i would date yeah um for the man

04:29:22.920 oh well like just youngest oldest i don't know yeah range like maybe closer than like

04:29:34.280 28 up to cougar over here well my like the my last relationship and the one i'm back and forth

04:29:42.280 with is 28 okay um and then top end you like them you like them geezers don't you no i i think

04:29:51.320 actually dating my personal life like 50 maybe maybe and i'm just exclude married i'm assuming she

04:29:58.600 doesn't you don't want to date a guy who's already married why do they fucking have that option it's so

04:30:03.320 dumb okay because there's a there's there's actually probably a significant amount of women

04:30:08.520 who will date a married man really yeah like with the expectation that he stays married no with the

04:30:17.400 expectation that they can gain these resources because uh he has them and he's married so like

04:30:24.440 for instance i'll show you i'll prove this to you so when you do this delusional calculator and you

04:30:29.720 get to the number go back up and then check the married box and watch how different the result is

04:30:35.240 actually it's actually pretty pretty interesting while i agree with you that perhaps this is there

04:30:41.880 are there are a good amount of women who would are they going to when asked certainly on the podcast

04:30:48.440 are they going to say it is that i mean some of the ones on this podcast for sure i don't know

04:30:55.320 but but yeah i get what you're saying i don't know if we've i don't know if we've ever had a girl say

04:31:01.240 like oh yeah i'll include the married guy but and let's pull it back up well no they just said that

04:31:05.880 they were sleeping with married guys or dating sure sure race

04:31:09.240 uh no proof i mean any any shade okay that's fine minimum height which was you said six foot

04:31:18.440 and then minimum income 200k do you want to exclude obese men

04:31:24.680 um yeah yes yes okay let's find out

04:31:27.400 oh f**k now ryan if you add zero at 0.1 percent 0.96 percent go back real quick and click on married

04:31:41.400 and i want to see what the difference is we'll get that pulled up

04:31:46.440 so click or yeah leave everything the same and yeah just click that or or don't click exclude i think if

04:31:52.680 you like so it's 28 to 50. yeah yeah i think if you did you hit refresh or oh yeah what oh i think if

04:32:05.480 you just hit the back button it'll for next time but uh and exclude obese 200 and then 200k

04:32:11.880 that's a significant difference right significant difference so that's why that's included in there

04:32:28.280 yeah what about the good times good times uh and then we're gonna do it for riley

04:32:34.440 randy riley randy riley go ahead riley uh so age you can do 27 to 57 into the mic please

04:32:49.480 57 really yeah really son i mean that's the last guy you did you good okay that's all right

04:32:56.280 okay exclude married yeah okay race any height um you can put like five five five four yeah five five

04:33:07.800 exclude obese yeah okay uh 150k

04:33:15.880 find out all right not bad i mean one percent one percent and then we're gonna do it for cena

04:33:26.280 one percent it's pretty bad that's pretty bad cena cena cena all right uh age um the lowest

04:33:39.640 yeah so was it 20 yeah

04:33:46.120 you can go lower if you want but

04:33:49.480 yeah even lower okay just max it yeah and then age

04:33:52.280 the oldest the oldest i've dated was what would date

04:33:59.640 30 30 okay exclude married

04:34:06.360 yes

04:34:06.600 uh race

04:34:10.120 oh what damien damien uh minimum height

04:34:14.760 411 for she will date a

04:34:17.960 short king

04:34:19.560 short king

04:34:19.640 exclude obese no you'll date a 411 obese guy okay lady

04:34:24.280 okay bro

04:34:26.120 that's not fair no she'll date obese right right

04:34:30.920 no exclude it okay

04:34:33.480 max it max it all right find out

04:34:36.760 zero point zero six two percent

04:34:47.320 good times okay i don't know that's cool cool you guys know what's it what's interesting is like

04:34:52.040 if you just took a couple of those of those standards and just work within the confines of those standards

04:34:57.320 like you said okay we'll drop the income down to like 50 000 right drop the income down to 50 000

04:35:04.440 and um you know they can be around five foot four like your height was fine right minimum height for

04:35:12.040 411 but if you just drop that down to like 50 000 or 60 000 a year the percentage would skyrocket

04:35:17.960 skyrocket or if you just unchecked obese the percentage would absolutely skyrocket it's like

04:35:24.440 yeah because the standards become rigid so rigid well and think about this too when you say obese

04:35:31.480 there are men who are considered obese who aren't actually fat right they're just

04:35:35.560 super strong or really big uh they have a like a bad um yeah i don't know bmi you know what i mean

04:35:43.080 so it with within that confines of that rigidity you could just drop a couple things

04:35:48.520 and it would just skyrocket the chances of finding the type of dude that you wanted

04:35:54.760 for shizzle just pointing that out for sure um before i get into the other questionnaire stuff

04:36:01.240 uh are there any other dating topics perhaps first any disagreements that any of you have with

04:36:08.040 anything maybe you've seen the podcast before something that hasn't already come up

04:36:11.560 and uh any disagreements from anybody if not any dating topics any of you would like to i wanted

04:36:18.520 to go back or ask for advice i wanted to go back to the the chat that came up and the one was like

04:36:27.000 what if a family relative subscribed or chat or something he also asked do you think what you're

04:36:33.560 doing is wrong and we didn't get to answer that and i don't think it's wrong what we're doing

04:36:42.440 because because if men didn't buy it then we were out of a job you know andrew do you want to um i want

04:36:52.200 to not linger on it too long but andrew do you want to have a little quick back and forth on this one

04:36:58.520 so even if it were true that the reason that the industry exists is because men buy it why would that

04:37:04.280 negate your responsibility i'm just where the money's at you know if i can live off of this

04:37:12.760 because men decides to buy it then why wouldn't i so let's assume for a second that there are people

04:37:20.440 who uh they enjoy doing murder but they don't enjoy doing the body disposal so they murder the people

04:37:27.640 and you come in you dump the bodies for them that's where the money's at are you doing anything wrong but

04:37:31.960 that is illegal oh if it's not yeah but let's say let's say it wasn't illegal would you be doing

04:37:37.640 anything wrong no well it it is illegal no you wouldn't be doing anything wrong well you didn't

04:37:44.280 do the murder right so but you're contributing to the industry that's murdering right you're contributing

04:37:51.720 but you're not doing anything wrong you're just helping right right so you just so they're just

04:37:58.280 they're just doing the murder all you're doing is burying the bodies right you you don't have any

04:38:02.280 responsibility yeah yeah you're just going where the money's at uh-huh so from your view um the the

04:38:11.800 idea here is that it doesn't really matter how much damage you do because if these men demand that

04:38:18.120 you're doing the damage to them you're not doing anything wrong is that correct yeah yeah so let me ask

04:38:25.400 you this if your dad let's say was slightly mentally ill your father and he ended up with a woman who

04:38:32.440 treated him like garbage every day made him do horrible things and he did it right he did it because

04:38:37.880 he was you know slightly let's say mentally ill in this case um but it was his choice would you support

04:38:43.240 his choice to do that or would you tell him that he should leave i support his choice but also i tell

04:38:50.040 him you would support his choice no no no no no you wouldn't no because is there really anything

04:38:56.040 you could say really you'd support his choice okay i want to support his choice but also there's nothing

04:39:02.520 that you could say to him if he was so certain about it right why not like i could say to him people

04:39:11.240 change their minds about things they're certain of all the time but if he's like firm on it yeah

04:39:18.440 people change their minds on things they're firm on all the time i mean that's what argumentation is

04:39:23.560 for right it's to assist people and change their mind from things that they've made up their mind

04:39:27.080 about people make up their mind about things all the time and they're completely wrong in fact

04:39:31.960 i would say 99 of things people think they know they're wrong about those things 99 of people's

04:39:39.080 worldviews totally wrong right and they actually think they know completely wrong so people people

04:39:45.160 kind of necessarily have to change their minds all the time right because they're just it's just

04:39:48.760 demonstrated how wrong we are all day long all all the time and all sorts of different things we do

04:39:54.840 so why not try to talk them out of it but how many guys watch like our industry it's basically

04:40:02.760 it's a lot yeah yeah so the thing is though is that even if that's the case if you could demonstrate

04:40:10.920 that you were doing a lot of damage to these guys and that they were forming addictive behaviors

04:40:16.600 highly addictive behaviors around the things it is that you are doing wouldn't you then have some

04:40:22.280 agency and some responsibility to stop doing that but then we should cut off all tobacco and alcohol

04:40:28.440 you know why because that's addictive to people yeah yeah yeah so there's a there's a threshold for

04:40:36.680 damage breathing oxygen right can can damage you uh you can play guitar too much and become addicted to

04:40:43.800 it there's almost anything on planet earth you could become addicted to but we we kind of create these

04:40:48.680 thresholds on what type of damage is acceptable within society and i would think that if you're just

04:40:53.640 completely rewiring somebody's brain from the ground up doing this much damage to yourself and

04:41:00.360 society that we can create a threshold there so so corn is more damaging than alcohol when people drink

04:41:10.200 they become violent they become like not themselves isn't that more damaging than yeah but but here's the

04:41:18.520 thing most people drink pretty responsibly right when you're talking about corn for instance right

04:41:25.480 the amount of damage it does rewiring a person's brain uh significantly more damaging than a person

04:41:31.640 has a couple of drinks a week significant more damage significantly more damage and but how yeah how

04:41:38.840 and what is because because what happens is we we create these thresholds for people

04:41:43.800 people so if a person's watching pornography all day let's say or not even all day they just watched

04:41:49.880 a lot what happens is they begin a step up process and we have research and studies which shows this

04:41:56.760 over and over and over right not only does it lead to human trafficking which is i i think you would

04:42:01.880 agree with me it's pretty fucking horrible right especially under age human trafficking leads to that

04:42:06.200 in almost every place where porn is legalized human trafficking is through the roof in comparison

04:42:09.960 places where it's not but also what it does is it stops a person from being able to orgasm unless

04:42:17.880 they continuously up the dosage the dopamine dosage to the brain and so you've probably seen this with

04:42:23.880 your own clients right at first they may ask you to do something that's relatively modest or moderate

04:42:30.280 and then they kind of step that up over time right they're willing to pay a little bit more

04:42:34.280 so that you do kind of more and more and more intense sexual things is that the case or not

04:42:39.560 the case with many of your clients most of them just like delete their account or never chat again

04:42:45.400 it's like yeah i'm not talking about most i'm asking you have clients who do this right they

04:42:49.880 just gradually step it up right yeah like two percent yeah right so they gradually step it up but it's

04:42:56.280 the same okay hang on can let me make the argument and then you can respond to the argument okay

04:43:02.360 can we do that let me just make it and then you can respond so anyway they'll gradually step it up

04:43:07.960 over time they gradually step it up over time and what this does is it actually is highly damaging

04:43:14.200 not only their brain but it's damaging to the person who's doing it so now you have an entire

04:43:18.840 sea of young women who dedicate the life to only fans and men don't want to marry them and don't want

04:43:25.000 they don't get married to them because uh because of their sexual history and the fact that their kids

04:43:31.240 can go and you know see the vagina online and things like this then we open up the can of worms

04:43:36.040 as to what happens even to the ones who do whose children get mercilessly bullied in school because

04:43:41.880 mommy did pornography and her nudes are all over the place all over the internet and then they come

04:43:47.160 home and they're like hey gee mom look this is a picture of you sucking this guy's dick what's going on

04:43:52.040 here it's a pretty disturbing phenomenon culturally so it has all sorts of cultural impacts and

04:43:58.120 phenomenon which go well and above and beyond what an individual uh experiences usually when

04:44:05.880 it comes to societal destruction right so what the individual an individual drunk does i agree with

04:44:11.080 you it's bad but we have all sorts of things to assist drunks right we try to make sure people hang

04:44:16.360 on we try to make sure people don't become drunks we try to make sure we do everything we can to make

04:44:22.040 statewide propaganda about why it is that you shouldn't drink and drive why it is that you shouldn't be

04:44:27.480 getting drunk too much with everywhere you look there's anti-drinking everywhere you look it's

04:44:32.680 anti-smoking everywhere you look society is not promoting that but there's no such programs against

04:44:40.280 only fans or sex work at all it's it's in fact the opposite right nudity is exploded inside of the

04:44:47.160 private market so i'd say these are massive distinctions between these two industries go ahead

04:44:52.520 wait are you saying like are you gearing this towards of is wrong are you saying like the whole

04:44:59.720 sex work industry is wrong yeah i'm saying that we had a pre-porn uh pre-corn sorry pre-corn

04:45:06.200 pornography society and that society was better than the one we're in right now and the reason it was

04:45:12.280 is because the degradation to the overall demoralization i'm sorry the demoralization has

04:45:18.840 led to the overall degradation that's the right way to say that the demoralization has led to the overall

04:45:23.480 degradation of society and so uh and this has happened over the span of multitudes of years

04:45:30.200 alcohol has been with us for 2 000 years uh this idea of pornography is a recent phenomenon

04:45:35.640 yeah but like it i live partly in budapest in hungary and that's like the capital of corn the

04:45:44.360 corn industry like yeah do you do you think budapest and in hungary are phenomenal places or what

04:45:50.040 especially hungary yeah i love it but what's great about hungary low taxes uh no immigrants or refugees

04:45:58.360 like yeah so they so they have so they have some courage but let me ask you this if hungary didn't

04:46:03.960 have pornography what would what would be bad about that how would that make hungry a worse place

04:46:11.800 it wouldn't make it best yeah right it would it wouldn't make it probably make it a better place

04:46:17.960 i don't think so but i'm just saying that i live in a capital where corn is like normal so i think here

04:46:30.120 in the u.s you look down upon it but like in europe it's kind of yeah no they look down on it in europe

04:46:38.120 too they look down on it in england they look down on it in france they look down on it in most of

04:46:42.360 western europe you're talking about some eastern block shitholes i have and even in those even in

04:46:47.160 eastern block countries they still look down on the shit so i don't know what you're talking about they

04:46:51.960 definitely look down on it yes they do name the country where they don't look down on it czech republic

04:46:58.360 and hungary eastern so some eastern block countries yeah also in denmark yeah but all of western europe

04:47:05.240 yes western europe looks down on it for sure and america looks down on it australia looks down on it

04:47:11.160 uh canada looks down on it most of mexico even looks down on it they don't like the idea of uh of sex

04:47:17.960 workers or corn workers it's not in europe they wouldn't date them what's that one sec hold on

04:47:24.040 i'll let this vector donated one hundred dollars thank you vector family is your flesh and blood

04:47:29.320 you and them feel an intrinsic need to respect each other the thought of them seeing you naked

04:47:34.360 is disrespectful to you you feel no need to respect strangers right

04:47:38.920 yeah but uh but i'm sorry no response or do you want to respond to vector or

04:47:52.040 vector thank you for the message i do appreciate it um so i'll let you guys get back to it then

04:47:57.000 sorry vector she doesn't have no no i just need to like i didn't quite understand it

04:48:01.960 wait i'm

04:48:07.400 was it for you i think for all only fans girls

04:48:12.760 hold on wait i'm just trying to understand porn wasn't porn like a really big thing before the 2000s

04:48:20.920 yeah in the 80s yeah yeah so but you're saying because porn is free no yeah so well remember when

04:48:29.960 did the when do you think the internet came around for all that free porn when do you think that came

04:48:36.520 around oh i don't know in red light i do need you each to make your final points i'll give you each 30

04:48:43.400 seconds okay so my point is this is like just very quickly and you can respond right yeah uh just to

04:48:48.680 summarize it's not that alcohol and drunkenness and things like that are good they're not good right

04:48:53.320 and generally for for society it's not good to have a bunch of drunks going around uh same thing with

04:48:58.440 cigarette smoking same thing with fried foods right too much of any of this is pretty much bad

04:49:03.640 for you however we seem to have some type of social containment for these activities and society at

04:49:09.560 large definitely snubs or knows it drunks right you can't hardly find a place anywhere to smoke a

04:49:15.160 cigarette right society has done everything that it can possibly do to run campaign after campaign

04:49:19.960 against these activities because they consider them to be degrading to society not good for society in

04:49:25.080 any way shape or form in this particular case i do not see that ever happening or well not ever but

04:49:30.360 i don't see it happening currently in western nations when it comes to corn so uh it's it's uh

04:49:35.240 that's the distinction in the phenomenon we have red light district in the netherlands that's

04:49:40.360 a whole street here in his room and fap to you on his internet what do you mean like you don't need

04:49:46.280 to go to the red light district so are you is your argument essentially it's legalized therefore

04:49:54.120 because we acknowledge that in these countries certainly these european countries it's legalized

04:50:01.640 and no more normalized than here i people don't look up down upon it as much as you do here in the

04:50:11.000 year let me ask you a question would you rather date a guy who never had to pay for pussy or would you

04:50:15.480 prefer to date a guy who has to uh who sees two different prostitutes a week which guy would

04:50:22.760 you prefer to date the one who didn't pay for it of course because he's a high value man because

04:50:29.240 he can ah so which means you're devaluing yeah i'm not saying i'm valuable at all that means you're devalued

04:50:36.600 yeah no i don't you think that women who do that work are less valuable i don't call myself a high

04:50:42.280 value woman not at all no no no okay that's not that you know how absurd it is that brian lives in

04:50:48.200 the state currently where he can't get a plastic drinking straw because of the stigma against

04:50:53.080 plastic he can't go down to the burger joint down the street and get a fucking plastic drinking

04:50:58.280 straw because of the stigma against plastic right but right now he could go on that laptop and pull

04:51:04.760 up all of your naked pictures that's wild okay that's wild it's insane that is not the world that

04:51:12.680 anybody wants to live in okay w california or l california l california fucking commie fornia

04:51:21.960 california stan fucking can't even get a plastic straw it's fucked up okay guys tts has uh 50

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04:51:47.160 it guys okay we're gonna get into the questionnaire so let's see uh marriage is a bad deal for men

04:51:54.040 to which you disagreed katie disagreed

04:52:00.200 and riley disagreed kyla disagreed so my position is that uh when it comes to marriage uh

04:52:10.680 how about instead of me giving my case for why marriage is bad and i have plenty of reasons um for

04:52:17.880 those of you who said you disagree that marriage is a bad deal for men i'd like to hear from you guys

04:52:22.600 and maybe you just tell me why men should get married in today's day and age have you seen all

04:52:29.000 the you know what is it called those speech um that all the guys see like andrew tate all of those like

04:52:37.240 get yourself a woman get married and this is something andrew tate says no no no not specifically but okay what

04:52:47.960 what do they argue then but all these like clever male figures who speak jordan peterson also he says

04:52:56.120 get yourself a woman who can support you so you don't cloud your vision with other like yeah so why

04:53:02.440 do i why can't you have a monogamous relationship that does not include marriage it can yeah okay so i can

04:53:11.400 but if you love someone why not get married if she loves me why get married what if this your

04:53:21.480 serious argument is if you love each other just get married i can just say if we love each other why

04:53:29.480 get married because it's a tradition to show each other that you love each other

04:53:38.600 okay um

04:53:43.320 sure isn't it it i don't disagree with you that is a it's a tradition that typically people who love each

04:53:51.160 other do that's not really a compelling reason because you mentioned tradition right yeah like

04:53:58.440 do you want to get married me yeah if i find the right guy then yeah yeah and it's a tradition right

04:54:04.120 but it's like kind of goes back to our conversation about like paying for dates but if you want to marry

04:54:10.280 for money i think that's wrong you should totally agree yeah but you say it's a tradition do you think

04:54:17.880 society is in any imagination of the word traditional do you think most modern women are traditional men

04:54:26.920 some extent i think there are some traditions that we still value such as marriage yeah so we've gotten

04:54:33.080 rid of the traditions that uh women typically have to uh adhere to and we've kept we've kept the traditions

04:54:42.120 that women benefit from male chivalry male providing male protect protection and marriage

04:54:48.440 women benefit benefit from these kinds of this kind of conduct from men and these kinds of arrangements

04:54:55.800 men explain to me i guess uh what hold on before how about okay i'll just go for it then what can i as a man

04:55:05.240 get from marriage or what do i get out of marriage that i can't get from a long-term monogamous relationship

04:55:13.720 with a woman just i don't know the laws here but in how about sure denmark even yeah okay in denmark you

04:55:21.720 just split everything like you can if are are men to uh are men still breadwinners in denmark generally

04:55:31.080 speaking uh it's pretty much 50 50 i think yeah yeah i don't know alimony laws or actually women

04:55:39.960 tend to earn more in denmark could be the case scandinavian country um i don't know the alimony laws i don't

04:55:46.680 know the laws in denmark but um but why wouldn't you want to get married you need well you guys need to

04:55:55.080 create a convincing case for me to get married i can give you first i'll give you all the reasons

04:56:01.800 but first i want you guys to tell me why i should get married or other men should get married don't

04:56:09.560 you want like a loyal woman to be locked down like just uh just very quickly um before you make that

04:56:16.120 argument i'm sorry brian i just wanted to help you out with some of your denmark questions uh for the

04:56:20.920 divorce rate there only 29 of divorces are initiated by men in denmark it's almost this same exact story

04:56:29.240 across the board as it is here in the united states and also the courts tend to rule in the woman's

04:56:35.240 favor even in denmark so just pointing that out go ahead cena what were you saying like don't you

04:56:42.680 want a loyal woman to know that she's only loyal towards you so you're saying i can't have a loyal woman

04:56:48.760 absent marriage no i'm not saying you can't have a loyal woman absent marriage but to be married to

04:56:56.840 one another doesn't that mean like you love each other to a point where you just want each other

04:57:02.920 i can just want a woman and not get married to her what about for men with high religious like

04:57:07.320 values who don't believe in sex before marriage you have to be married for it to be right yeah this is

04:57:12.520 really compelled this is actually a compelling reason uh for religious men to get married although

04:57:19.240 andrew really quick uh and i'll get everybody else's position on this andrew i texted you about this

04:57:25.000 uh so this is sort of a hypothetical scenario so let's say there's a hypothetical country andrew

04:57:33.320 that was secular and in this country there was there was a significant population

04:57:40.200 maybe it's a minority of christian people and this country in order for you to get married

04:57:47.800 you the man had to chop off his right hand had to fully chop off his right hand

04:57:53.960 in order for you to get married and you you couldn't there were no you know there wasn't just

04:57:59.480 oh we just get married in the church if you get married in the church the state views you as married

04:58:04.680 they're going to come and chop off your hand you do it yourself or they're going to force you to do

04:58:07.720 it you can't leave the country for you know whatever reason so no secret marriages there could not be

04:58:13.080 secret marriages and so my question is under i guess christian doctrine theological uh biblical

04:58:19.800 doctrine i don't know the exact terminology would there be some sort of other christian ethics so

04:58:24.920 like i'd say well let me ask the question yeah the the question is uh would despite my understanding of

04:58:32.600 christianity uh it is a requirement for you to get married prior to having you can't have children

04:58:37.400 out of wedlock you can't have sexual intercourse prior to marriage but if you were a christian living

04:58:42.920 in some sort of country where you were either uh not prosecuted uh persecuted persecuted or there was

04:58:50.120 some sort of law whatever it is uh could you then have children and have sex and have a relationship

04:59:03.320 yeah this isn't even uh hypothetical it's already happened this has already happened this is our this

04:59:09.000 was uh this was exactly what happened in soviet russia with the orthodox christians they they absolutely

04:59:15.240 wanted a state registrar of marriages from orthodox christians so they could continue the persecution

04:59:20.120 of them they refused to do that and uh so what they did was they just remained celibate because the

04:59:27.400 faith the faith in that case it's yeah under christian ethics when you have the compulsory to self-harm

04:59:33.880 um in order to do something like marriage um you're already in an unethical situation right so

04:59:41.160 at this point it's it it's a repellence from the state so they're doing something which is evil

04:59:47.000 from the view of the christian uh however we wouldn't then go do something evil but we you

04:59:51.720 still wouldn't fornicate outside of marriage you just simply wouldn't get married in that situation

04:59:56.440 you'd be do what you could to resist the state but so um you would not be able to have children then

05:00:04.040 yeah and in that specific instance you probably would not be able to have children no

05:00:07.960 but remember remember this that in in they would still get married through the church secretly

05:00:15.080 the only reason i answer this way to you is that you created a hypothetical situation

05:00:20.360 where they actually could not even get married secretly so yeah in that situation uh no you

05:00:26.280 wouldn't either lop off your hand you would just maintain celibacy because i was thinking then i i mean

05:00:32.840 obviously this is hypothetical in the real world at least in terms of government's overreach at the

05:00:40.920 current moment

05:00:44.840 i don't think they they have the capacity to like people can do things in secret still maybe in the

05:00:50.360 future that won't always be the case but i was thinking like there must be like if there was some

05:00:55.320 hypothetical scenario where christians were persecuted and like there was like significant ramifications

05:01:01.880 to the point of like grievous bodily harm yeah that's happened over and over and over and over

05:01:07.640 again but the only the only distinction that i can't this it's a hard question to answer there may

05:01:12.520 be christian ethicists who would disagree with me on this they could say well there could be a greater

05:01:17.880 goal here for you to procreate if the state's going to lop off your hand and that's the extent of what

05:01:23.960 happens to you then you may have a greater duty to procreate i'm not so sure that i would say that you do

05:01:29.160 in this instance where it's uh state oppression if you have a global christianity uh but in the case

05:01:35.400 of the isolated scenario you've created the hypothetical which is uh almost impossible

05:01:41.640 hypothetical of hey you also can't get married in secret um if that's the case uh at that point i think

05:01:50.280 that that uh i don't i don't know some because some christian ethicists would say

05:01:56.200 if you want to do that you could i would say that um i'd say that you should probably just maintain

05:02:01.800 celibacy and resist the state right because i i mean the the thought process here would be

05:02:07.880 while you could i suppose go along with this and um

05:02:16.760 be celibate this essentially would if every christian in this country adhered to this

05:02:22.840 they would there would no longer be any christians in this country they would all be

05:02:26.600 that would be the end of their bloodline the end of their entire family within a generation

05:02:30.600 it would be a great test of faith the but the idea here is like this has happened so many times to

05:02:35.240 christians and the persecution of the of what is called the test of faith that's where we actually

05:02:39.880 get martyrs from is from these very ideas of you're persecuted specifically for your faith your job

05:02:46.760 then is to actually reaffirm your faith more the pinnacle of the christian faith is that the gates

05:02:52.680 of hell will never will never prevail against the church meaning you can't wipe them out you can't

05:02:58.600 get rid of them so any place you're isolated where you had christians even if you said they couldn't

05:03:02.920 procreate or you would do this to them or that to them they couldn't marry in secret all that that

05:03:07.400 would do is reaffirm their faith sure we're going to come right back to that two chats coming

05:03:11.240 through sorry for the delay on these guys big sass energy donated 100 thank you big sass appreciate

05:03:16.840 she would rather date the man that didn't have to pay for sex because he's not degrading himself

05:03:22.200 the mere fact that it's degrading is proof of its degeneracy on an individual and societal level

05:03:28.920 any response there i would just agree like yeah okay sorry for the delay on these guys we were just

05:03:37.000 having the exchange so i paused it big sass thank you there's another hard question

05:03:43.320 captain orson donated 100 the man of your dreams gives the same exact ring that he's given to one

05:03:50.600 thousands of women every woman who has been with that man recognizes that ring would you be happy with

05:03:56.840 the used ring that he gave you no prefer new yeah yeah yeah thank you captain awesome so much for the

05:04:08.200 uh tts man i i do appreciate it um yeah that's a that's a actually uh quite a difficult scenario that

05:04:16.760 i'm gonna have to put some thought into um which way the ethicist would go because there's a compelling

05:04:22.360 argument that there could be a greater good here if you got the hand lopped off but there's also an

05:04:26.920 argument here that staying celibate would be absolutely fine if you didn't watch your hand

05:04:30.760 lopped off but i i actually would have to think about it yeah taking that secret portion out like you

05:04:36.280 can't get married in secret can't be secret can't yeah that yeah that that makes the um that makes the

05:04:42.600 ethical question much more difficult i don't know so so to be completely blunt the more i think about it

05:04:47.800 here at right now i i don't i don't know the answer and i i i wonder uh you know there may even

05:04:55.720 be like it could be the case that uh they think it's worth it to get the hand lobbed off but i mean

05:05:03.480 that's already a very extreme example what if the example is even more extreme it's under punishment of

05:05:09.080 death and so uh you would essentially be killed and they have some sort of to mary you would get killed

05:05:16.680 to mary yes if you married you would be killed yeah well i mean at that point then the ultimate

05:05:22.200 punishment yeah but that that's actually uh easier one to answer so if you're going to get killed before

05:05:28.680 getting married um or whatever i actually don't understand why anybody at that point would get

05:05:36.200 married because you would if the question is but no more christians then you would be eliminating

05:05:41.880 all christians the second they got married right yeah yeah so that's easier to answer the right arm

05:05:46.760 is actually more difficult and then i the i guess sort of the context here is to i know these are

05:05:53.320 obviously obviously extreme examples hypotheticals unrealistic uh i suppose logic yeah and i suppose the

05:06:02.680 the application here is that at what point can a christian when it comes to the law and there are laws

05:06:13.480 that are uh when it comes to marriage and the state's control over this that have serious negative impacts

05:06:24.680 impacts on men at what point could a christian man say well i'm still going to get married i in this

05:06:32.040 case you i suppose you can do it secretly uh or no it would it i guess the angle would more so be

05:06:39.320 as a christian i'm going to have premarital sex i'm going to have children out of wedlock

05:06:46.040 because the state has made it so unappealing and so detrimental for me to get married

05:06:54.680 that i'm going to do this outside of marriage outside of the sacrament i'm going to i'm going to

05:07:02.120 do these acts that i suppose would be a sin because the state has essentially forced my hand

05:07:07.800 well so the cat the catholic answer to this to that would be simple catholics would defer to natural

05:07:16.200 law and say that that was a reflection of marriage anyway so so it would probably just be permitted

05:07:21.880 right uh but i'm not sure don't quote me on this but i think that they would just appeal to natural law

05:07:26.760 it's actually a much more difficult question from the orthodox perspective and i'd have to think on it

05:07:31.880 because uh that's actually a tough question yeah anyways the idea here is like how far can you push

05:07:38.440 it before it's necessary for you to do these things in sin just to continue christianity is what you're

05:07:45.160 getting at yeah yeah that creates a kind of an impossible scenario in a way so i'll think about

05:07:51.560 it but i'm going to come up with an answer brian sure sure i was just curious um anyways didn't mean

05:07:56.360 to derail there but um going back to you you were saying that what about in christianity

05:08:01.800 yeah you're saying it's bad and like yeah i'll just go ahead i'll just go ahead and like grant

05:08:06.120 that uh if you're religious you probably should adhere to your religious values and get married

05:08:11.400 but there's still even religious men face risks and detriments when it comes to marriage that are

05:08:17.320 not really addressed even by religion but um let's say in a secular context can you make a compelling

05:08:25.720 reason why a man should get married happiness stems from connections you make but you said you could

05:08:34.200 date them without marriage so yeah i have nothing to say against anything katie i don't really have a

05:08:41.320 compelling argument for that i disagreed because i kind of think like legally marriage is for both

05:08:47.560 people the man and the woman um is it how much just curious how much do you make

05:08:54.920 yeah probably i mean i'll say a 100k okay well you said minimum yearly income you want

05:09:03.880 a man to make 200k so he's out earning you by two uh two times he's making 100k more than you if

05:09:10.040 you guys were married for a period of time i don't know if you'd want to maybe take work you said

05:09:13.880 you wanted to stop working right yeah that's what i said if if no i don't i just meant if i wasn't

05:09:19.880 like if i was with somebody who didn't want me to work and that was the decision i would want them

05:09:24.360 to make 200 but if i had to work or we made the decision that i would also be working then i would

05:09:29.720 be able to cut but in this situation assuming you did find a guy who could have you stop working

05:09:34.760 in what in what way would you fare worse than him in the event of a divorce um i think that women

05:09:41.320 go through a lot of different things in marriages than men but i've worked in family law and i

05:09:45.560 watched a lot of women suffer through divorce so you mean like their feelings i mean they can suffer

05:09:50.760 financially to you me specifically in my income but a lot of women still contribute income to their

05:09:56.760 marriages um make a lot of sacrifices within marriage and then when they go through a divorce

05:10:02.040 can also get completely um yeah look i mean uh they're certainly you know they can protect their

05:10:10.920 assets and money in lots of ways but um i uh doesn't necessarily mean because you marry her she's

05:10:17.960 gonna take you to the cleaners for all your money if you if you guys have to divorce if she stops working

05:10:22.920 and work like a stay-at-home mom for like 10 years if they divorce she has no money she has no money

05:10:31.400 and it's difficult for her to get a job because she hasn't been practicing for like i mean but if

05:10:36.520 the guy's providing everything then if we just rewind time she basically goes to where she was although

05:10:43.800 most most realistically she's probably better off so

05:10:52.200 what with what i mean you're saying like you're so what would she was just homeless all women are

05:10:58.520 just homeless before they meet their partners no no she's not she has an education but if she doesn't

05:11:03.320 work for 10 years and was to apply for the same job she has no experience you think they're just a

05:11:08.360 woman who hasn't been working for 10 years is just like perpetually fucked like they can't just like

05:11:13.880 either go back to school or they just lie on their resume or they just say yeah i was married and

05:11:21.320 now i'm not looking for a job go back to whatever the fuck they were doing before yeah but it's just

05:11:27.320 difficult if if you're a software engineer and hasn't been working for like 10 years if you apply for

05:11:34.680 a software engineer job you don't have the experience for the 10 years you miss being you're still a

05:11:41.640 software engineer and your income's probably i mean you'll have to maybe get caught up on recent

05:11:46.440 developments in in that career field but i mean you're probably still going to be doing

05:11:52.440 pretty okay software engineers are my understanding paid compensated fairly well in this case you're

05:11:58.200 saying she took time off work which indicates to me that in this scenario the man was making enough

05:12:05.720 money to support both of them they've been together for 10 years alimony law kicks in so she's going

05:12:12.360 to get money from the divorce what is that the man's going to have to pay her money

05:12:18.520 post-divorce and she's going to get 50 percent of all the money well it depends exactly how it works

05:12:24.360 out but she gets 50 of everything that was made during the marriage i don't think we have that in

05:12:31.080 denmark i don't know that i don't know the laws in denmark i would assume there's some similarities

05:12:37.560 maybe not exact but um i look i'll grant to you that if the woman's the breadwinner she can also get

05:12:46.200 fucked the only difference is is that one there's a bias in the court system and then two

05:12:50.920 men are much less likely to go after even if the woman was the breadwinner men are much less likely

05:12:59.960 to like go after resources in the same way that women do it happens but they're much less likely to

05:13:07.880 do it more men are willing even if the woman earned more than him just walk away men are way more willing

05:13:16.200 to do that than the reverse for y'all you're like i'm gonna get what i'm owed because you feel entitled

05:13:22.440 to it any other a couple other a couple other of you disagreed on this riley men marriage is a bad

05:13:34.520 deal for men anything from you riley i mean if you're looking at it from the point of view of like

05:13:41.400 into the mic please the woman is giving you everything that you want out of the relationship

05:13:47.000 and she's simply asking you for this sense of like having a marriage will give me a sense of security

05:13:53.800 and yes i'm okay to sign a prenup i think giving her that sense of security makes your life a lot more

05:14:01.000 easier in a whole of the whole aspect of it i mean it's a bit solipsistic why can't i just say

05:14:08.200 us not getting married gives me security now we're at a deadlock who gets who who gets the

05:14:16.760 security you or me i mean i feel like some sort of obviously some sort of compromise would have to

05:14:26.120 happen but at the end of the day so the compromise is prenup i mean yeah that's what i would say

05:14:32.120 and you so you'd be fine signing a prenup yeah it is a compromise but the issue with prenuptial

05:14:42.840 agreements is and you're paralegal right did you do family law stuff yeah in the beginning of my

05:14:48.760 school program i worked you're too far from the mic miss oh sorry yeah i worked at a family law office

05:14:52.920 for like almost two years in the beginning of my program yeah okay uh could you i don't know if you have

05:15:00.600 the intel on this but um prenups can only deal with assets of the parties prior to the marriage is

05:15:10.120 that correct yeah like you can't say you could a woman cannot sign a prenup that said the man keeps

05:15:17.480 a hundred percent of everything he owned prior to entering the marriage and every and every single

05:15:23.960 thing that he earns during the marriage remains his and if in the event of a divorce you get nothing

05:15:34.840 like i don't think a prenup can do that is that correct i can't i'm not gonna say outright but i

05:15:41.880 don't think i think you can i think that you can protect certain things going forward once you are

05:15:50.440 in the marriage sorry it's a habit but i can't speak i'm not i'm not going to speak on that from

05:15:55.400 an attorney standpoint oh all right okay

05:16:02.840 odd groups go to left even groups go to the right that means one three five seven left two four six eight

05:16:09.320 right seven and eight are well groups okay listen the fuck up you're going to dps very very slowly

05:16:16.600 thank you man appreciate it thank you trash panda uh okay uh kayla did you have anything

05:16:32.440 kyla my bad you're good i get it all the time um i just believe i'm gonna sound like charlie kirk here

05:16:38.760 um but i believe in the core and traditional values of being an american i believe that

05:16:45.880 um you should get married have a family and teach them the same values and hope the same for them

05:16:54.840 and also being a christian i believe that you know that is really important um to get married and have

05:17:02.680 that covenant between you and the person you're supposed to be with okay um well i have not been

05:17:10.760 convinced um i did have a small thought on it um and this is just like you said giving you an argument

05:17:20.200 right and so do you feel as a man that you want to be a provider for your partner you expect her to bow

05:17:25.960 right uh yeah so my perspective on this and this is just a thought that i've had sitting here this

05:17:34.040 evening but the ultimate form of protection for a woman is getting married and so if you are trying

05:17:41.080 to be that provider and protector for her then you would marry her

05:17:44.120 also a lot of women so basically i um in terms of what i get she likes me more like that's the

05:18:00.840 benefit for me is like i uh no it's your personal sense of i placate i placate to her desires that's

05:18:09.000 what i get no i'm saying to be in line with your views of wanting to be a provider and a protector

05:18:16.520 the best way to be married to do that because being married offers additional protections to

05:18:21.800 your partner to her correct you want to be a provider and a protector but to your partner yeah

05:18:28.760 but also like to for example to protect my woman from not getting a splinter i'm not gonna

05:18:34.840 um cut off my arm so those kind of protection you're talking about uh protection that is offered

05:18:44.600 i suppose to women through marriage is not life and limb uh well i mean think about plenty of plenty

05:18:50.680 of women get divorced and they there is no safety concerns so the protection aspect is kind of to me not

05:18:57.880 really compelling and then the providing aspect i can still provide absent marriage so i just it's not

05:19:04.760 compelling either so maybe my definition of protection is a little different but you know

05:19:11.240 let's say you are in a long-term monogamous relationship but you're not married and you

05:19:17.080 both have assets whether equal or not and something happens to you she is not your next of kin and

05:19:23.080 therefore cannot receive any of the benefits so if you guys have been living in a house that you own

05:19:27.480 she's not on but she's been cleaning it you know taking care of it hosting family meals

05:19:33.240 and now she's put out because you know there's a tragedy and you guys didn't have any sort of

05:19:39.160 living will in place sure so so you're saying in the event of a marriage uh in the event of an

05:19:45.000 untimely death she would get certain she would get my estate basically abs if we didn't have kids it

05:19:51.560 would it would go to her even just to protect your children right like you can set up things so that

05:19:56.440 in even in a monogamous non-marital relationship you can set up protections for that person that

05:20:03.080 is mothering your children and so well that's the point i was about to make i don't need marriage to

05:20:10.600 i could just sign a will that says here's this is going to them i mean that's no different than doing

05:20:17.880 a prenup though right like and still getting married as opposed to doing like a living will

05:20:24.360 where she gets it if something happens so it's kind of like if it was if i was dating a woman and i made

05:20:30.360 the determination that like upon my death this is the person that i wanted my assets to go to

05:20:35.480 i could sign a contract that allowed that to happen but if we're married and then we get divorced then

05:20:47.720 bad financial situation i mean i'm with a prenup i think everyone should sign one honestly

05:20:54.600 yeah but it's still not really compelling to me also i'm gonna be all i'm saying is that if for you

05:21:01.160 as a man if you feel like you want to be the protector then marriage would be a reason a way

05:21:07.160 to protect your partner i mean i could sign a contract that just says here's my will you get

05:21:12.680 all my upon my death you get my assets or whatever so i don't need marriage to get that or to provide

05:21:19.800 that just like you're asking a woman for a prenup like it's just paperwork documentation so i but i don't

05:21:27.880 need marriage to do that to do what to have children just no or literally responding to what

05:21:37.880 you just said i don't need marriage you you said in the event of your untimely death in order to ensure

05:21:46.360 that if if it's your desire for your assets whatever to go to your wife instead of perhaps somewhere less

05:21:55.480 desirable i can just have a con a will i don't need marriage i guess my position is coming from those

05:22:04.680 types of conversations like what happens after you know don't typically occur unless you're in a

05:22:11.000 marital relationship like what happens to your partner after they pass away is not a conversation

05:22:16.600 that people typically get into even at our age and so i don't need marriage in order to have that

05:22:24.840 you don't but i think it's like an extra level of security and safety for both parts the question

05:22:31.080 that you asked was why like what argument would we give you to get married my response to that is if

05:22:37.400 you define yourself as a protector and a provider marriage is the ultimate protection that you can

05:22:43.480 provide to your partner yeah i i it's not compelling whatsoever it's not compelling um

05:22:58.040 you guys always it's like you always think about what's best for you i don't think there is an answer

05:23:05.400 to this why should men men what's the benefit to me

05:23:13.480 none earns more

05:23:16.760 so the only scenario is she earns more that's the only benefit go find yourself a millionaire all right

05:23:21.880 well okay i'm gonna move it on then

05:23:23.080 there around 1469 donated 99 dollars question to the panel what's your opinion on reverse alimony in

05:23:34.600 the event of a divorce initiated by a woman without a man's fault so would this be the woman uh the

05:23:40.520 woman has to pay the man alimony mvp in the event of a divorce initiated by the woman without a man's

05:23:46.760 that's how i'm taking it yeah you think it's fair game if the woman's the breadwinner she should have

05:23:52.840 to pay alimony to the man fair game yes yes okay thank you mvp i agree this is why i will only marry a

05:24:01.880 billionaire female i will only put me in the delusion calculator i am fucked um let's see here uh moving on

05:24:09.720 on to the next thing uh hold on what is it uh it was who said it it was

05:24:21.240 is there an issue no she just asked what time it was so i was showing her is there an issue

05:24:28.040 uh this is for you uh men are not insecure for caring about a woman's body count circled you

05:24:34.360 circled amanda i think it was just you too is that correct you disagree oh i didn't no i tried

05:24:41.640 i accidentally it circled and then i canceled it out i don't think they're insecure oh okay i see

05:24:48.200 uh so i think it was just you amanda uh you think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body

05:24:53.080 count is that correct yeah okay why is that because i think men can go out and do whatever they want with

05:24:59.480 their bodies so why can't we what if they don't then that's their prerogative i think that you have

05:25:08.520 you're entitled to have your opinions in terms of relationships to yourself you're entitled to

05:25:14.680 want a woman with a low body count but i still think it's a little bit of an insecurity okay so

05:25:18.920 body count shouldn't matter then right yeah okay going around the table do you think body count should matter

05:25:23.400 for men and women both uh how about um do you think body count should not matter to men like they

05:25:38.440 shouldn't it's the past it shouldn't matter yeah then it shouldn't it should should or shouldn't should

05:25:47.000 should should should should should should i don't think it matters okay it should matter i think it

05:25:59.480 should and i also i think that men are valid for thinking that it should matter going around the table

05:26:08.360 what's your body count starting with

05:26:15.720 cena or now starting with you since you're the only you think body count doesn't matter

05:26:20.120 oh i don't know i've been with the same dude for 12 years i don't know my numbers range

05:26:26.920 i don't know haven't thought about it in a long time couldn't tell you so you forgot yeah

05:26:31.560 is it you think it's over 30 no idea

05:26:43.640 no idea nope going around the table uh body count 302. um hold on

05:26:53.000 uh one more time 302. okay sorry my english isn't three no i we use we use the same numerical system um

05:27:10.200 300 so you only have you only got two more to go 300 oh

05:27:14.840 um wait are you joking or for real no no no i'm actually for real and you've kept track um yes sort

05:27:24.920 of uh i mean i there's some i don't know the names of but that was like way in the past but yeah um

05:27:35.400 and you have do you keep a list yeah you have it on your phone uh yeah okay um so and you're 23

05:27:43.960 yeah when do you lose your virginity when i was i just turned 16 16 hold on so that's 16 17 18 19 20

05:27:55.640 21 22 23 that's eight 300 divided by 302 divided by eight 37.75 penises a year

05:28:06.040 year was there um how about what was the body count by the time you turned 18 by the time i turned 20 i

05:28:15.960 can recall 60.4 partners per year yeah but by the time i turned 20 my body count was 68 68 so from 16

05:28:28.520 to 18 to 18 68 um how about the past year i have no idea 2024 yeah like this year's the year i've been

05:28:40.920 with the most people is it because of of yeah it is so like has it been 100 plus this year yeah 200 plus

05:28:49.000 this year can't recall okay but a lot okay and uh wait so hold on let me think about this 302

05:29:01.160 68 you said by the time you're 20 yeah 60 68 68 okay and then 100 in the past year uh what how about the

05:29:11.880 most in the 24 hour period at the same time or just how about let me think so you've had like

05:29:19.880 threesomes orgies yeah yeah you've had orgies uh i guess what's the biggest orgy you've been a part of

05:29:27.400 only five not like a huge so when you say five in an orgy do you mean it was a five six sum yeah five

05:29:35.960 guys and me but it was a six sum it only happened once yeah and then i had four sums and threesomes

05:29:43.480 more than a six sum no okay so you had a six sum of one foursome wait one six sum one foursome two

05:29:51.880 fours two foursomes yeah and a lot of three a lot of threesomes and they were uh were they all like all

05:29:58.520 the men um one of the foursomes was uh was with another couple okay i see and uh so how about when

05:30:09.480 it comes to singular sex partners not counting the threesomes foursomes etc uh what's the most amount of

05:30:16.760 sexual encounters you've had in a 24-hour period maybe four

05:30:20.920 wait just to just clarify did you say you were 16 or 18 uh six she said 16 she lost her oh 16

05:30:41.000 yeah okay i thought you said 18 no uh you said sorry four in a 24-hour period yeah okay uh what about a

05:30:49.960 48-hour period two days

05:30:55.320 then seven i guess seven uh what about a two-week fortnight how about body count in a fortnight

05:31:02.600 what is that two weeks 14 days fortnight i have no idea i don't like keep track of sure how many in a

05:31:13.240 week and then if you were to include the threesomes foursomes whatever what's the most amount of men

05:31:18.120 you've slept with in a one-day period it'll be four oh still four okay uh i'm not sure if that checks

05:31:26.360 out but uh hmm and then i don't know if i uh

05:31:34.040 uh okay wow uh cool uh cool congrats i guess i think i'm not sure uh cena what about you body count

05:31:43.400 three three isabella two i'm not answering that sorry you want to give it you want to give us a range

05:31:51.720 no not really i feel like that question is for the man who decides he may want to marry me or i'm with

05:31:59.480 and i don't feel like the whole world needs to know my body count but it's okay if they know that you

05:32:05.720 used to be an escort i mean yeah sure you're so far from the mic can you just speak on the mic that's

05:32:10.360 still not i just don't feel like that's any of your business or anyone else that watches this show

05:32:15.960 sure i mean you're under no requirement to share it just it is uh can you maybe not for like

05:32:25.160 recreation but can you share how many men you've professionally seen no over or under a thousand

05:32:36.280 i'm not answering oh do it just do it oh we love sometimes it's okay to not answer

05:32:48.840 yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true just do it

05:32:59.800 fortunately my body count doesn't determine if i make my dreams come true nothing is impossible

05:33:06.280 i love the ponytail it's so long yeah and you're not going to stop there

05:33:13.880 no what are you waiting for do it

05:33:19.560 just do it yes you can just do it

05:33:28.680 you have the spitting i will give you a two dollar bill if you reveal

05:33:36.280 well you know how much a two dollar bill is worth not worth my body count two dollars

05:33:43.720 all right that's right uh okay uh body count seven

05:33:49.400 uh you i think you skipped or you forgot four out of respect for my boyfriend that is between

05:33:56.440 me and him fair enough oh damien you know we have to do the age thing the in the discord the age thing

05:34:03.320 really quick yeah um it's just you guys forget your body counts you won't share your body counts

05:34:09.880 probably matters really quick before he pulls that up though multiply it by three and that's the real

05:34:14.760 number it's over nine thousand over nine thousand absolutely not okay all right pull up the discord for the age

05:34:23.560 thingy my bobber nice all right so the you know going back to the conversation about well

05:34:31.640 you know you guys are going to look better and then okay so we we aged you guys all forward

05:34:36.920 um and you somehow fucked up her titty tattoo all the tattoos changed all the fuck all right next

05:34:45.800 i mean actually you don't look that different why did you give her a bunch of

05:34:58.840 fucking armpit fat though what the fuck bro you fucked damn bro that's the that's that's the thing

05:35:05.560 you should be most upset about but they made you skinny everywhere else but your armpits i have like

05:35:10.280 three different aged photos at this she she got lipo on everywhere besides her arm can they put

05:35:14.680 all of your photos up at the same the ozen pic worked everywhere but the armpits all right next and

05:35:20.200 they got rid of change dibs you look good dibs milf hold on i'm gonna oh hold on i took some milf

05:35:29.720 nice okay next um i'm dreading this she kind of got hotter same right i'm okay maybe i was wrong

05:35:44.360 all right next i'm scared i'm scared oh okay girl look at you go good times okay next hey it also

05:35:51.800 fucked up kiki back there okay all right i feel like next

05:36:03.480 i look like my mom you look nice yeah yeah next that's what i felt like when i saw mine i look like

05:36:09.320 my mom wow okay damn why you give her a fucking a fucking lazy eye too along with it that's crazy

05:36:19.720 easy dog come on uh next there's not me there's not like the oh okay all right all right there you

05:36:26.360 go all right uh okay and uh what what was the other thing we had to do uh the the body count we hit

05:36:36.840 that uh oh it's okay to ask a woman her body count on the first date a lot of you objected um

05:36:42.920 um katie objected you objected uh

05:36:53.560 you guys can talk i just think the first date's like a little like aggressive did i just feel like

05:36:58.840 yeah you can ask i think maybe especially if you decide you're gonna see each other again

05:37:03.880 then sure like after a few dates but i think asking on the first date is just

05:37:07.880 i don't know i think when bad taste yeah when when you get to the point like where you consider

05:37:14.440 should we be in a relationship that's where it matters yeah to some yeah first date just comes

05:37:20.840 across like i don't even know the right word for that but i think it's perfectly fine because

05:37:27.000 if the guy doesn't you know approve of your body count doesn't want that then

05:37:34.520 he doesn't have to go on a second date i feel like that saves the man time

05:37:40.200 and it might also save like the girl time because then if you see where his standards are and you

05:37:46.280 might want to mess with somebody that's like doesn't care about your body count it might save you time

05:37:51.400 of messing with him yeah so you both say you know a guy is very much entitled to have standards just as

05:37:57.880 as much of as women are nowadays yeah but can i ask like do you have a micro dick then on the first

05:38:03.800 date what does that have to do but like if if guys have to know so they don't waste each other's time

05:38:13.720 then if dicks i would love honestly i would love it if a girl asked me that i can ask you that

05:38:19.640 do you have yeah then i could just say yes and we can move on i mean i would yeah i would like it

05:38:25.640 i would be like i would be like uh yeah it'd be perfect it'd be a good question to ask

05:38:35.000 i don't know you think it'd be like you'd sit across from a table at dinner with someone and

05:38:40.520 she's just like so do you have like a tiny ass dick how big is it because i need to know before i

05:38:45.000 even like engage with you further yeah well by hmm this is this is actually kind of interesting and

05:38:49.960 compelling by virtue of her asking this question she's she's just disqualified herself uh because it

05:38:57.160 it would appear to me that this is something she's like really super is super important to her um

05:39:04.040 on this basis i don't know if this equally applies to body count because i think caring about

05:39:10.280 penis sizes like orders of magnitude more superficial and shallow than a woman's body count

05:39:16.360 um i suppose the woman can make the same argument though is like well if a guy were to ask me

05:39:22.840 the body count question regardless of my own body count i would find it kind of like

05:39:27.480 socially retarded or like autistic or i don't know like rude to ask so that is an interesting kind of

05:39:35.320 counter i do think it's different but i'll have to think about that one a little more i think both

05:39:42.840 of the conversations should be had if you're considering having sex with that person and

05:39:47.160 that's when the timing is appropriate like if you're having conversation oh i don't have premarital

05:39:52.520 sex then it's appropriate to talk about body count if you guys are you know have had premarital

05:39:57.480 sex and are now choosing not to which i think is kind of becoming more common um and so i think

05:40:02.920 for context i think the timing of the conversation is pretty important um i was kind of i that's why

05:40:09.960 i asked if i marked it because i think on the first date it could be seen kind of like abrasive or up

05:40:15.160 front um but and even like the same question can be said about the dick right like is your dick big

05:40:21.960 or small like i don't think that's a first date question like i think you kind of need to feel it out

05:40:27.080 for a little bit and then decide if you're gonna like go that direction and then that's when you

05:40:32.360 have the conversation hey are we exclusive are we seeing other people what's your body count because

05:40:39.080 i'm not down with that you know and then that's when that kind of conversation needs to start i mean

05:40:43.800 truthfully though like i think the the penis question or whatever would be good because if like

05:40:48.440 whatever i was rocking with like wasn't sufficient i'd rather just like within the first five minutes of

05:40:53.800 the day hit like oh okay like you're not going to be like satisfied or whatever i just don't even

05:40:59.320 want to date you blah blah blah like i'd rather just get that out of the way and then just she's a

05:41:04.280 size queen like i don't know maybe her pussy's loose i don't know i want to get that shit out of the way

05:41:09.080 fine fuck it i don't have a problem with it i agree it's probably over though if she's asking that

05:41:14.520 question because most people most girls who ask that question is it like for all like the girls here

05:41:21.320 would you think that if you were to ask a guy that question is it because you want to have

05:41:25.320 sex with them on the first date i don't know but anyways i do have to move it along uh cena you said

05:41:31.400 it's you disagree that it's uh not wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she's overweight

05:41:40.440 you circled not wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she's overweight is that incorrect

05:41:45.480 so me circling okay do you agree or disagree it's not wrong for a man to not want to date a woman

05:41:58.840 because she's overweight um i agree okay cool so you didn't mean to circle that all right uh moving

05:42:16.920 on then you guys wrote uh i'm gonna pair these two together men put in more effort than women when

05:42:23.960 it comes to dating dating is easier for women to which cena you disagreed that dating is easier

05:42:30.440 for women you disagree men put in more effort isabella you disagree that dating is easier for women

05:42:37.240 uh amanda you disagree that men put in more effort than women when it comes to dating

05:42:45.480 and that's it uh so you guys think that women put in more effort

05:42:51.800 when it comes to dating and that dating is easier for men i think that men put in more effort but

05:42:59.180 it could be uneasy for both parties like relationships can be tough you don't know

05:43:04.240 who you're dating you could be dating a terrible person it's going to be hard

05:43:07.060 so when i'm talking about dating uh certainly it can be the case that women can date toxic

05:43:13.180 men men can date toxic women but i'm more so talking about like those kind of earlier stages

05:43:18.660 of dating i think men have it harder earlier on and i wrote that i think i retract my circle i agree

05:43:28.860 men what the fuck men have it harder anybody gonna hold to their what they wrote in the questionnaire

05:43:35.120 i think early on in dating that the the input is pretty equal especially in today's dating

05:43:42.540 situations because there's other things that go into dating for women that don't necessarily apply

05:43:47.300 for men like what um i mean personal hygiene for women like getting ready for a date takes much

05:43:52.940 longer for a woman than it does for a man and so i think that women typically put more time into the

05:43:59.540 presentation of the date presentation of themselves on the date how much what extra amount of time would

05:44:06.500 you say an extra hour maybe or what do you to like to prepare for a date yeah i would say a girl

05:44:12.120 spends an extra hour getting ready for a date as compared to men but men has to plan the date

05:44:16.240 and like that's not always the case i plan to prepare the date and pay for the date like work

05:44:21.460 extra hours to pay for the date yeah i mean say he shouldn't pay for the date though yeah typically

05:44:26.880 i think so historically right i think men put in more effort in the courtship process currently i think

05:44:34.900 there is a a closer to even contribution on both parties do you think that it's easier for men to

05:44:42.940 date no i think it's definitely harder for men to date than it is for women to date

05:44:46.740 yeah i mean i was just thinking like okay if even if i grant that women put in all this extra time

05:44:54.960 to get ready they put on their makeup or whatever and it takes an extra hour uh there is an expectation

05:45:01.240 on men to pay for first dates uh if the guy takes you out to dinner you know sometimes it could be a

05:45:09.120 affordable place uh but i don't i don't think it's beyond i don't think it's crazy that a guy would

05:45:14.460 pay like a hundred dollars for a dinner date in like a metropolitan city um if he's making twenty

05:45:20.920 dollars an hour for example uh he's working five hours to take you on the date

05:45:27.640 so i probably worked five hours to pay for everything to get ready for the date no you

05:45:37.200 didn't i mean makeup alone is expensive yeah more than a hundred dollars for that date oh my god

05:45:44.460 i'm sorry i guess he means like hold on generally hold on the makeup oh this is so dishonest okay

05:45:51.360 so you're saying i spent forty dollars total on this foundation bottle

05:45:59.200 and you are you are essentially your argument would have to be i use the entire foundation bottle

05:46:07.100 on this date or does that foundation bottle last you like dozens or even over a hundred individual uses

05:46:16.200 so you it's so dishonest because it's like you would have to determine okay how many uses

05:46:24.920 individual uses do i get out of this one bottle of product and then you'd have to divide the total cost

05:46:30.420 of the product by how many uses so if the bottle costs you a hundred

05:46:34.700 and you get a hundred uses out of the bottle that's one dollar not a the cost for the date is not a hundred

05:46:43.900 dollars a woman doesn't just use one makeup product before she goes on a date so i still

05:46:52.260 think it's an equal contribution on both parts but i don't think it's we've literally done the math

05:46:57.120 on this here can you there's there's like a tiktok about like i'm gonna see if i can find it tiktok

05:47:01.940 math makeup date 40 wait did i hear this right how much are you saying they're spending on a single

05:47:11.220 date for makeup makeup was just the example of one of the products i'm using that they are

05:47:17.940 purchasing to participate in that date there are lots of things that go into the care of women for

05:47:24.840 themselves nails hair makeup tanning all of those things factoring okay well then men are buying

05:47:30.400 clothes clothes gasoline basically anything which is tangential their car repairs the fact that they

05:47:38.080 got a car the fact they make car payments all of that was in preparation for this date too then

05:47:42.780 and then that equalizes again with the woman that's coming to the date as how does that

05:47:47.380 okay so but so if things if things are equalized coming into the uh the date then why is he paying for

05:47:53.560 the date i don't i i don't think did i circle that i don't think men should pay 100 all the time

05:47:58.760 i think that's so no but the argument was we were talking about is dating easier for

05:48:06.320 uh men or women um men if you disagree if men put in more effort than women when it comes to dating

05:48:12.600 and you said well you know when you go on the date like women have to prepare more and i was like well

05:48:18.260 men if they have to pay for the date they have to work x amount of hours to be able to pay for the date

05:48:27.760 i have to work a certain amount of hours to be able to attend the date as well

05:48:33.780 so if i give a woman a makeup pass as somebody who prefers natural women and prefers a minimal

05:48:40.540 minimal or no makeup then i mean like we don't hold on wait one sec do women wear makeup for themselves

05:48:50.200 for other women or for men because you guys pick and choose in which situation so on a first date

05:48:57.660 you guys dress nice and wear makeup and do all this cosmetic shit for the man ergo thus the men

05:49:05.740 the man should pay but if we say oh you guys wear makeup for men you say no no no no we would do it

05:49:13.060 for ourselves and for other women so which is it is it schrodinger's schrodinger's makeup paint

05:49:22.220 honestly makeup is for men if and like if you're being honest if i'm if we're being honest makeup is

05:49:31.220 for the men like you don't we all come to this podcast because we want to look pretty yeah we can

05:49:37.720 say we put on makeup to look pretty for ourselves and to look pretty on the camera but who are what

05:49:44.200 like who's watching us on the podcast mainly men right and we want to portray ourself in a certain

05:49:50.660 way in front of those people well hold on i'm not talking about the pod well i'm talking in general

05:49:55.240 yeah but like i i acknowledge like when women are engaged in like theatrical or film scenario like

05:50:02.560 if you're on camera like it's kind of like yeah you're gonna wear makeup but in general i'm not

05:50:09.620 faulting you guys for wearing makeup on the podcast like we wear makeup for men

05:50:14.120 yeah okay in general yeah i agree you have something i was just gonna say i feel like

05:50:20.020 that's kind of irrelevant because the question is like is dating harder for men or women for men

05:50:24.500 they have to do the approaching yep they generally have to court you they have to take you somewhere

05:50:29.240 whether or not you guys split the bill or whatever it's generally like you expect the man to take you

05:50:34.040 and treat you and that's regardless of if you put makeup on your face like yes generally i will agree

05:50:40.860 especially depending on the type of woman you are you want to look your best when you go on a date

05:50:44.760 whether you put the makeup on for yourself you want to feel your best and look your best yeah

05:50:48.560 so but i think dating in general is harder for men they are the pursuer they have to do the chase

05:50:56.780 women are not going to just come up to you and say like hey come can you take me on a date like

05:51:01.980 that so it's in my opinion like the getting ready process yes for someone like me who does

05:51:07.340 get their nails done and their hair done and all this shit yes it's expensive it is a lot of work

05:51:11.460 but dating no men have to work harder yeah and i i to your point um even if like the the math

05:51:19.280 equaled out like in terms of what the woman spent what the man spent if he pays for the first date or

05:51:25.920 even if you go 50 50 like all those other dimensions the man like typically look i get

05:51:35.040 there's some women that shoot their shot it's exceedingly rare it does happen but like overwhelmingly

05:51:40.520 most men's experience when it comes to dating they're going to be approaching first and not only are

05:51:46.560 they approaching you before they get the yes from you they got no from 10 20 100 other women because

05:51:53.740 most men like they're not shooting one for one like most men they have to like work yeah and that's

05:51:59.240 what's the hardest part they gotta deal with rejection exactly women don't really you don't

05:52:03.740 really get rejected like that like you don't like if like at a if you're at a bar or a club

05:52:09.680 and the dude's just like rapid fire approaching chicks boom rejection rejection rejection reject like

05:52:15.420 he's got to approach 10 girls before he's lucky to even like get with one but so it's like

05:52:21.300 approaching sending the first message soliciting the first date get asking for the number setting

05:52:26.160 up the date paying for the date all that all that shit moving things forward there's like dozens of

05:52:33.080 different steps that men have to take that women don't really even have to think about ever like let me

05:52:38.220 ask you guys a question of all the first kisses that you guys ever had did you go for the first kiss

05:52:44.680 or did the guy the guy i did okay you're weird i did both times okay cool bro you fucking i'm just

05:52:54.380 saying you asked the question i'm answering you got you you got the red hair it's i get it okay all

05:53:00.820 right what about you for sure the guy for sure the guy the guy the guy i made the first move with

05:53:06.160 my husband what about all the other men that you forgot about i would say it's probably 50 50 okay

05:53:11.500 all right uh riley the guy kyla the guy all right uh so the whole rejection thing uh let's see here

05:53:21.140 one time a guy said ew when i tried to kiss him he did like that ew nice yeah nice

05:53:27.200 they're armed 1469 donated 99 dollars guys don't care how you look with makeup on rather prefer you

05:53:37.740 wear a simple mascara that pops your eyes bright hey remind me we're gonna do the makeup wipes before

05:53:43.460 the end of the show here so uh no shame thank you mvp appreciate the uh tts also can i add something

05:53:50.920 yeah for that last topic uh guys also it depends on the girl and the girl's dad but like for my dad you

05:53:58.000 have to also work to get the dad's approval because my dad's very protective over me um as i think all

05:54:06.200 dads with daughters should be but that's another step that can be really tough sometimes for guys to

05:54:13.020 have to take mm-hmm sure a couple of you disagreed with adult age gap relationships uh that was

05:54:23.660 uh

05:54:25.640 i think that was you three here you guys disagree with adult age gap relationships so like a

05:54:32.600 30 year old dating a 19 year old uh why i circled it yeah pretty sure

05:54:40.600 maybe above you did i think above 30. i feel like it could be exploitive um exploiting you're just

05:54:46.920 turning 18 you're not you're not mature you really aren't and you do irrational things when you're younger

05:54:53.720 you're more rational so i don't i don't know if you're going to be rational going into a super super

05:54:58.680 old relationship when you're 18. so it's exploitative is that the word irrational on the woman's part

05:55:08.600 yes i mean aren't women just irrational at 18 well let's just start with this

05:55:16.840 go ahead what do you think what do you think irrational means

05:55:19.800 just not not not not a smart like thoughtful process like when you make decision it's not

05:55:28.680 thought out fully you're making a decision without you think it means you think it means dumb

05:55:35.960 uh

05:55:37.960 some somewhat not thought out clear well let's um just you know i'm not gonna hold it against you

05:55:44.680 right you don't exactly have a google machine in front of you but just to give you the definition

05:55:49.240 it would be not logical or reasonable right um i don't i don't i don't really think that they're not

05:55:55.720 logical or reasonable right what's unreasonable about them they can clearly make reasonable decisions if they can vote

05:56:05.320 uh well i don't know about that there's

05:56:07.640 i don't think they can i don't well then why do we let them vote i don't think they should

05:56:14.680 when should they vote 21 25 okay so then at 21 years old well whatever the age gap is then that would be okay

05:56:25.880 it'd be better yeah but it'd be better yeah yeah but that's not i'm not asking if it would be better

05:56:31.800 uh i'm not asking for the word better right like every year we detract would be better right for

05:56:37.960 every year uh that wasn't there would be better by this metric would it be okay then yes yes yeah

05:56:48.520 so what do you think magically makes an irrational person rational in uh fully developing like your

05:56:54.600 brain your brain fully develops 23 21 23 26 26 you're talking about the prefrontal

05:57:01.560 cortex right it's 26 sure yeah but even that's a bad argument because one everybody's prefrontal

05:57:07.560 cortex develops differently and it starts to degrade after 26 so thing is is like if it starts

05:57:13.480 to degrade after 26 then by the time they're 40 it seems like this 26 year old woman is taking advantage

05:57:19.080 of them since it since they have a degraded prefrontal cortex right yeah i can see that yeah i don't i've

05:57:27.560 i've actually never heard and i've you know i want i want to hear one right but i've actually never

05:57:33.560 heard a compelling argument ever a moral argument for why it would actually be immoral for an adult

05:57:41.320 who's 18 years old to date a person in whatever age bracket they they wanted to i've never actually

05:57:47.800 heard uh any moral argument for that at all ever at least not one that was compelling

05:57:56.440 18 being the legal age is like constructed though so like if it wasn't a thing 18 being the legal age

05:58:01.720 would it just be okay in general i don't know i feel like that would be then whatever you would

05:58:05.960 default to is whatever legal age you decided adulthood started at you would still have to give

05:58:10.840 them the responsibilities of adulthood so if that was the case i still don't understand what the moral

05:58:15.640 argument would be so like if you put the age of adulthood at 22 or 20 or 17 or whatever it was

05:58:23.960 uh they would they would still have all the responsibilities of adulthood so why couldn't

05:58:27.720 they then choose their preference of relationship i don't actually understand it right like i don't get it

05:58:37.960 i don't i don't know what the moral like what they what the moral argument there is at all you

05:58:44.280 know what i mean it's like if you have the responsibility you can vote you can be drafted

05:58:48.680 right all uh or you can join the military you can sign a contract you can sign a lease you can

05:58:53.480 sign a mortgage you can do all these different things then i don't understand why you can't

05:58:59.000 choose who you want to date like i think it's more exploitive to let an 18 year old girl sign a cell

05:59:04.920 phone contract if they're so like if they're too irrational to date a 30 year old because that's

05:59:10.520 exploitative then basically them doing business with any company that requires a contract would

05:59:15.720 be that company exploiting them right like wouldn't you then have to say that of was exploiting girls

05:59:23.720 it is i think it is yeah i think if you don't use your gender 25 i think if you can choose your gender

05:59:33.400 nowadays you can be able to date whatever age after you're 18 um okay uh well i'm trying to move

05:59:43.320 through these quick so we won't linger too long on any given one um but uh let's see here um won't

05:59:53.560 linger long on this one either but a lot of you disagreed that most men prefer natural women so

05:59:59.000 minimal no makeup no filler no plastic surgery some of you disagree you guys think that men prefer

06:00:05.560 uh i guess women who wear a lot of makeup uh or who have plastic surgery yes you you think so also

06:00:14.840 cena yeah you do okay uh katie you also disagree you also disagree there uh

06:00:26.200 uh so just is that your guys's position you think men prefer

06:00:34.680 don't like men prefer women who are well put together so fake tits not fake tits but like in our

06:00:41.720 society if you were to have someone with like a boob job a bbl versus someone who's like flat most

06:00:49.400 um boys or men wouldn't they pick that over someone who is like disagree disagree disagree

06:01:00.520 preference though so yeah so here's the thing right so are men attracted to big boobs yes are men

06:01:07.640 attracted to a nicely shaped fat ass yes however it's not all of them brian

06:01:15.480 not all of them yeah well certainly not not me um so but i do think that if a man

06:01:28.840 had to choose between fake a woman with fake boobs and a woman with like the same woman

06:01:37.320 and look maybe i'm wrong on this but a woman with fake boobs and that same woman without fake boobs

06:01:43.000 that same woman with a bbl that same woman without the bbl i think a lot of them prefer the woman

06:01:49.080 without that me specifically i'll take a girl with a cups over perfect perfect fake boobs that are big

06:02:00.760 or whatever the i'll take a girl with a little belly fat over the lipo belly i'll take a girl with a

06:02:06.840 small upper lip over lip filler i'll take a girl with

06:02:13.880 flat ass or whatever i don't know pancakes or whatever over bbl

06:02:18.840 now look am i attracted to large boobs do i like large boobs do i like a fat ass nice ass sure why not

06:02:25.800 but i also find women attractive if they have a cup or a small butt in fact i'm part of the small titty

06:02:34.920 committee are you saying you prefer that or are you just saying you like all of it look i like women

06:02:48.920 with i'm not really a boob guy i'm not really a butt guy i'm a labia guy so uh big labia matter

06:02:55.640 hashtag big labia matter uh no look i like small boob boobs i honestly don't care that much look i i

06:03:02.840 can appreciate a nice you know woman who looks real smart but uh don't really care all that much

06:03:12.440 um nice butt sure although if it's like too big honestly it's like well the only reason why

06:03:18.360 like i'm average or whatever so it's like gets in the way it's like if she see i couldn't date you

06:03:24.600 guys because you all want a giant cock right like i'm average i'm averaging the bulge right so i can't

06:03:29.800 be like i don't know like don't get me wrong like sometimes like a girl like she she's nice to look at

06:03:37.080 but i'm like some positions would be difficult you know what i mean bro you know like bro come on dude

06:03:44.760 like if she's fucking got a giant fucking ass like that that this is why guys like petite women

06:03:51.560 because like they're built for speed you know like when it comes to actual sex i have a question for

06:03:58.200 you it's a little mix of the you know what so with the labioplasty right like oh my oh so if you

06:04:04.840 dagger to the fucking but i'm gonna flip it on you i'm gonna flip it on you so let's say you had a

06:04:09.000 partner that you really loved and she knew that this was your thing and she was just like hey

06:04:14.600 i don't feel like i have big enough labia for you and she's gonna go try and like do something

06:04:18.920 about that as a man that loves it as a man that loves it would you be like your baby labia are

06:04:26.520 fine or how big are we talking here you know like where would you be well the i i actually saw something

06:04:34.760 that i guess there's this kind of new novel procedure where women are getting maybe injections

06:04:39.880 or something into the there's not like a labia transplant yet but maybe who knows yeah

06:04:44.520 i don't know what that looks like like for example no offense to any ladies here who have lip filler

06:04:53.880 but like when it comes to your actual not those lips yeah like your lips

06:04:59.320 like natural big lips like the lip filler it's not the same it ain't the same as natural big lips

06:05:10.840 yeah i agree like it's not it doesn't look the same and then like kissing it it ain't the same

06:05:17.400 uh so i don't i don't know what it somebody sent me a photo of like the labia

06:05:24.200 i don't know uh somebody sent me a photo wide i don't think it would like so what i guess what

06:05:32.200 i'm getting at like the labia filler it wouldn't look the same i think as like

06:05:42.440 some natural arby's beef curtain wizard sleeve labia

06:05:49.960 yeah so i would say if i was dating if i was dating a girl with an innie i would say

06:05:55.720 don't do that just keep keep it but you think about it you'd have to like really think about it

06:06:00.600 you just did yeah you just did a lot of yeah so i'd be out of curiosity i'd be curious to see

06:06:08.600 what the filler labia looks like excuse me doc can we get some before and afters please yeah i'd like

06:06:15.240 i'd like that but uh body transformation i would like beast labia and look like i don't know i just

06:06:24.760 think when it comes to the natural thing uh i would you know we were talking about men being protectors

06:06:31.960 i think men need to stand up and like we got to protect because when it comes to protecting women

06:06:38.040 i don't think it's just protecting you from physical threats it's protecting you from the

06:06:44.760 threats of mind like your own thoughts could be but also not just your own thoughts but have those

06:06:53.160 thoughts been influenced by society and do i need to unprogram deprogram you or do i need to put in

06:07:04.040 new thoughts reboot you that sounds terrible but i guess what i'm trying to say is like uh

06:07:11.240 like the threat because i mean look the plastic surgery industry is like um the whole the entire

06:07:17.960 cosmetic industry billions trillions of dollar industry and society consumer consumerism in general

06:07:28.040 has an incentive to keep you feeling dissatisfied with who you are dissatisfied with how you look

06:07:34.440 and this isn't just cosmetics when you're sad when you're not happy with yourself you buy all kinds

06:07:40.760 of other shit too and society has a vested interest in making sure you're a good consumer and that you

06:07:47.160 buy shit that you don't need people who go shopping when they're feeling what's that shopping therapy

06:07:53.400 what's it called retail therapy right it has a vested interest in making so it it has a vested interest

06:08:01.320 in making sure you feel shitty about yourself so they can siphon as much resources and money from you

06:08:07.720 as they can right and this is absolutely exemplified when it comes to cosmetics when it comes to makeup

06:08:14.600 and when it comes to plastic surgery you don't look like this you need to look like this to be loved to

06:08:20.760 be accepted to be approved of not just by men but by your peers women say it themselves you need to you

06:08:27.640 wear the makeup for other women i actually believe this to some degree you know you guys

06:08:34.280 you're in competition with each other you know and so you wear makeup for other women you wear

06:08:40.040 makeup for men you get the fake titties for probably men and uh i just think it's kind of

06:08:47.720 fucked up that y'all are cutting yourselves apart you're you're spending tens of thousands of dollars

06:08:55.400 you're going under anesthesia which is dangerous women die getting these procedures they either die

06:09:01.320 on the operating table or they die after the fact from uh they get a post-surgery stroke they have an

06:09:09.880 infection i think it's a despicable state of affairs that women uh feel compelled to cut

06:09:20.600 themselves open put in plastic because you're dissatisfied with something about you well we feel

06:09:28.600 compelled because that's the society standard like that's the standard that most men want and that's

06:09:36.120 like what we see i don't think i don't think most men want women with bbls i don't think most men want

06:09:42.200 women fake boobs and i would i would tell you as women and any young women who are watching the men

06:09:50.440 that skip over you without the fake boobs the men that skip over you without the bbl good good that type

06:10:00.360 of guy ain't the type of dude that i in my view is going to be a good partner he's going to be very

06:10:08.440 shallow he's going to be very superficial

06:10:12.920 i i guys who like oh she doesn't have the bbl she doesn't have fake boobs her boobs are too small

06:10:20.440 i don't think that's the guy you want i agree is that the guy you want no you want a guy who he's only

06:10:26.120 with you because your boobs are big he's only he's not with you because your boobs are too small

06:10:34.120 that's not the guy you want sex object not for the person you are he'll treat you like a sex object

06:10:40.120 that's what that's what he's looking for he's looking for a sex doll not a partner and this

06:10:45.320 isn't just women's fault look there's men out there that like there are men that like that and look you

06:10:51.080 you might say for example well why are they liking all these girls photos these instagram models with the

06:10:56.120 the lipo and the bbl and the plastic surgery and the lip and all that shit right yeah there's men out

06:11:01.800 there that do that i think a lot of these women have uh they have elevate they've got fake followers

06:11:07.720 and all this shit but um i think men need to start saying coming out and saying no you don't don't do

06:11:15.800 that shit i think a lot of men like you ask them you ask men point blank they say yeah i don't like

06:11:22.680 bbl i don't like fake boobs i don't like lip filler well and to think back you know to our

06:11:29.960 grandparents great-grandparents ages you know when they were our age they didn't have that yet you

06:11:36.440 know these women were still so beautiful and they were happier you know more marriages more you know

06:11:43.720 things were just healthier relationships all that well they didn't have the you know that wasn't a thing

06:11:49.240 back then i wonder if it's like this uh it's this sort of like escalation of

06:11:58.920 like for example in a sport if nobody does steroids everybody's playing on the same field

06:12:04.680 but like once enough women oh there's one makeup product there's like one makeup product now there's

06:12:10.920 a hundred different makeup products that you can wear now there's all kinds of crazy like skin

06:12:14.760 care and cosmetic shit you can do and all like these other women are doing it and they're out

06:12:19.320 competing or like uh i don't know it's like it's kind of just i don't know i don't know where i'm

06:12:27.640 going with that but but i think it's also because of social media we compare ourselves to other girls

06:12:34.760 like constantly on tiktok on instagram and everything is edited and then you want more because

06:12:40.440 it's just yeah yeah i think it's really sad the example that we you know we as or you know majority

06:12:48.520 of women nowadays set for younger girls growing up you know we need to be a better example and have

06:12:55.080 respect for ourselves you know and teach young girls to grow up and have respect for themselves and

06:13:01.080 teach them that their you know natural beauty is true beauty and that's how god created them and

06:13:07.320 i mean i've spoken with a lot of men a lot of men seem to definitely prefer natural you can believe

06:13:12.520 me you cannot i'll just give you my again just my own anecdote then we'll move on to the next thing

06:13:17.800 uh again and look i really quick yeah like do men like big boobs sure do they like a big butt sure

06:13:26.280 but i think they want that natural they want it natural and i think a lot of men if you ask them like

06:13:33.080 well would you prefer a girl with fake boobs or an a cup i think a lot of men will say they prefer the

06:13:38.600 a cup if the girl doesn't have the biggest butt versus like a girl with a bbl i think they'd prefer

06:13:43.960 the girl if she's just you know not she ain't got a fuck what they would prefer it but they would still

06:13:50.840 like photos and like be attracted to that and that's what kind of makes some girls like insecure it's

06:13:56.840 like well he says he prefers this but at the same time he's like liking those photos he's like

06:14:01.880 like looking at well i mean like and i mean you're right like but it's hard maybe in this

06:14:10.360 regard i'm a bit of an outlier but like and this is prescriptive advice to men i don't follow girls

06:14:17.720 on instagram i don't like girls photos on instagram if i'm in a relationship i don't watch porn

06:14:24.840 like maybe that makes me an outlier i don't know but prescriptively to men i think it's sim

06:14:30.840 shit to be following a chick on instagram and like liking her shit like don't be i don't know

06:14:37.080 it's like it's uh i don't know i don't follow anybody on i mean i follow my own instagram page

06:14:44.120 on instagram that's anyways we'll move on uh where you've got a few more things that were pretty

06:14:49.400 close inquisitor zeal donated 100 dollars sorry for the delay ryan what the hell is with the triple

06:14:55.400 negatives for example disagree it's not wrong to refuse to date yeah these are women they're

06:15:01.800 sub-atiq on average how do you expect them to pass these questions yeah some of them it is like some

06:15:09.800 double negatives uh triple negatives that is fair some of these can be rewarded the questionnaire is

06:15:15.560 new but inquisitor zeal sorry for the delay on the tts but thank you so much for uh sending one in

06:15:20.360 um do you guys want to shoot a shot back he just said you guys have sub 80 iq

06:15:29.240 i mean you can't really read the questions clearly so yeah i don't i don't think so i think we tried

06:15:34.280 our best answering roth donated ten dollars oh what the hell damn now i want a french dip thanks brian

06:15:41.640 what is i don't know what that is like arby's you were referring to me i think i oh the tts is not

06:15:51.480 10 yet or it's not 10 guys i think i made a oh i see i made a mistake when i changed the tts setting

06:15:57.800 well wrath you got a little free tts there you go um okay moving things along here uh a couple more

06:16:05.560 then we'll do the row session then we're going to wrap uh uh sorry guys oh okay isabella feminism is

06:16:16.520 not about equality you disagree also uh jasmine you disagreed with the statement yes uh so you think

06:16:27.960 feminism is about equality uh no the i think maybe that tts was right here i think in its root it is

06:16:36.920 but it's it's gone too far there's like third generation feminism and it's just it's too it's

06:16:42.920 gone too far okay well uh so you still think though that it is about equality yes in its roots yes in its

06:16:52.680 roots well let me ask you sure let me so again won't linger too long on this one but would you say

06:17:00.120 like first wave feminism was about equality yes okay first wave feminism would you say around uh

06:17:06.440 first wave feminism would be like right to vote yeah that was first wave feminism okay so equality

06:17:12.680 right uh why were women fighting for the right to vote without the corresponding uh duties that

06:17:22.680 men have when it comes to military conscription they they i think they should be right but so

06:17:30.360 the feminists yeah were demanding equal rights to vote were they demanding not to be drafted as well

06:17:36.280 i think they were yep and well in regardless of what happened uh they secured the right to vote

06:17:45.240 without the corresponding responsibility of having to be subject to military conscription

06:17:49.640 for men to be able to vote they had to face the draft face military they were subject to military

06:17:58.600 conscription um do you know what happened a few years before 1920 which is when women got the right

06:18:05.080 to vote no elaborate explain please what happened you don't know no on the topic you don't know what

06:18:13.480 happened a few years before 1920 with war yeah what happened there's war which one

06:18:25.320 world war two one oh my goodness okay i don't know if you have the requisite you might not have the

06:18:31.080 requisite historical uh okay so right before 1920 you had world war one 1914 1918 uh men in even men

06:18:42.920 the united states were drafted in this conflict uh men were i mean this was a catastrophic are you

06:18:50.920 familiar with world war one at all somewhat yeah i mean at the time it was the most catastrophic uh yeah

06:18:56.680 i know that i mean world war ii was worse but uh at the time it was the worst uh most most deaths etc etc um

06:19:04.920 um so right on the heels of mass amounts of male military deaths women were campaigning for equality

06:19:16.680 to secure a right that men had for a very short period of time without the corresponding responsibility

06:19:24.680 of being subject to military conscription even the early forms of feminism were clearly not about equality

06:19:32.040 because if it was wouldn't they have attempted to secure the right to vote with the corresponding

06:19:36.600 responsibility uh and duty that men faced in order to secure their own right to vote i think they were

06:19:42.600 fighting against something not necessarily looking at what you had to do right so women don't have

06:19:47.640 any duties i think they were looking at it in the way that they just wanted to be on right so you

06:19:52.840 wanted privileges with basically without any corresponding i don't know if they thought but okay okay here

06:20:00.200 look i'll make it super simple yeah okay men have the right to vote yeah that right to vote comes with

06:20:07.800 and is like attached to a corresponding duty and responsibility yes women want the right to vote

06:20:19.640 get the right to vote no corresponding duty or responsibility is that equality between men and women no okay

06:20:28.440 so a quality you would agree then that equality would demand that both men and women if they get

06:20:37.160 the right to vote they have to be subject to military conscription yeah fair proposition yes okay it's 2024

06:20:43.000 why aren't women uh forced to register for the selective service they're not gonna fight to like put

06:20:50.360 themselves at a disadvantage if men maybe asked and wanted equality if men wanted that equality then maybe

06:20:55.080 that would probably happen but you would then have to agree that we're on the third wave of feminism

06:21:00.280 yeah so for the first wave of feminism the second wave of feminism and the third wave of feminism

06:21:06.520 if feminisms purport to fight for equality why have they not attempted to equalize military conscription

06:21:13.880 i don't know okay well you've got three waves go ahead i think you know for women they're you know

06:21:20.600 a traditional woman's role is to stay home and take care of their family very quickly i don't mean to cut

06:21:26.600 you off um i couldn't find the unmute fast enough but i wanted to go to piggyback off what brian was

06:21:32.360 saying very quickly sure the original anti-suffragettes those who were against the suffrage movement uh

06:21:39.240 women's right to vote there was a bunch of women most women actually didn't want the right and campaigned

06:21:43.960 very hard against women who were campaigning for the right their main argument was that they should

06:21:50.520 not be allowed to vote unless they could be conscripted that was their main argument against

06:21:57.000 the um the suffrage movement yeah and um so it would occur to me i mean uh you said that they're just

06:22:06.520 trying to secure benefits right so feminism is not about equality in my view the most charitable

06:22:14.440 definition is feminism is woman's advocacy it's also like a bunch of other like toxic man-hating

06:22:24.760 shit but like at the best it's women's advocacy which is not equality because and here's why and this

06:22:31.560 doesn't there's other components here too when it comes to the equality argument so if so feminists

06:22:42.840 they won't fight for any form of equality which could conceivably come to the detriment of women

06:22:53.080 so if women have like a privilege in society feminists will be like oh let's keep that

06:22:58.360 well even if it's unfair to men yeah they'll be like no no we want to keep this because it benefits

06:23:05.160 women right because women's advocacy but if we get rid of it or if we bump men up and give men that

06:23:15.080 same benefit right which they they don't do they don't care about men um so they'll say no no we got

06:23:21.080 to keep that because it would it would create equality right like for example let's say men don't

06:23:26.600 have a benefit and women do yeah and if we take away the benefit from women what that would be equal

06:23:31.480 equal right yeah or bringing the benefits yeah yes but do you think women are or feminists rather

06:23:37.240 do you think feminists are prepared to say okay let's take away benefits from women so it's equal to men

06:23:43.080 no right and so this is why in my position feminism is not about equality it's about women's advocacy

06:23:50.200 advocacy nothing wrong with that but let's not parade feminism as an equality movement and in an

06:23:56.680 ideal world it would be for that but you're right it's not ideal and it's not how it is you should

06:24:00.840 not be a feminist then i'm sorry no that's okay no look it's okay uh andrew did sorry did you have

06:24:06.280 more andrew i don't know if i cut you off there no i actually i i feel like i cut into no

06:24:13.400 totally good yeah just just that's the that's the general idea the general idea was that if they're

06:24:18.840 supposed to be voting they're supposed to be duty which comes with it the original uh women who

06:24:23.640 campaigned against suffrage because most women voted against suffrage most people don't know that but

06:24:29.720 when it was given to them to have the right to vote they voted against it that's why it was decided

06:24:34.520 in the courts but their main argument was uh that they wanted to have all the privileges in society with

06:24:40.840 none of the duties and so uh they didn't want to be used as political pawns by the political system

06:24:47.560 in the political class and that's exactly what ended up happening is they've been used as pawns

06:24:52.760 by the political class now and um there's other examples of this too like not just the draft because

06:24:59.640 a lot of people like to dismiss that whole thing well there hasn't been a draft in a long time blah

06:25:03.480 blah blah although men still have to register with the selective service and if they don't there's all

06:25:07.320 kinds of ramifications but like for example feminist organizations will uh what's the term

06:25:13.560 um feminist organizations will there's a specific term but it's evading me will lobby politicians

06:25:22.600 for example um i think this happened in florida i believe it was the national organization for women

06:25:29.320 of women uh they were trying to equalize child custody between men and women in florida i don't know the

06:25:36.680 exact details i could be getting one or two things off here but they're trying to say well okay in the

06:25:41.640 event of a custody dispute between a mother and a father the custody should default to being just

06:25:49.000 50 50 equal and if i have my facts correct i could be wrong if somebody wants to fact check me

06:25:56.680 uh feminist organizations said no no no no no no no no we're fighting against equality

06:26:04.360 there is some benefit or some basis for having women the custody either they're more likely to get it or

06:26:13.000 defaulting to them or something like this um so oftentimes feminist organizations will actually

06:26:19.560 fight against equality again if it's somehow conceivably could be to the detriment of women even if

06:26:28.360 even if it would create equality between men and women so um moving on to the next thing uh you uh

06:26:37.800 two of you said women disagreed that women are not oppressed that was amanda and i think isabella

06:26:47.400 um amanda how are women oppressed i mean i think that the double standard of

06:26:55.480 slut shaming is a perfect example of oppression okay anything else besides that

06:27:02.600 um

06:27:04.760 i mean not in the united states okay

06:27:09.000 why is that uh i don't actually understand how is that oppressive they're oppressed they can't be

06:27:15.640 sluts andrew yeah how's that well they can't to hold a stigma against women who have a high

06:27:21.400 body count other women do as well it's not just men yeah i understand that i think that i don't

06:27:28.920 think we should be shaming people for their body counts so i think that the doubles i think that the

06:27:34.920 double standard for men comparatively to women is where the oppression comes in you're using

06:27:39.560 intimidation double standard that it's okay for a woman for a man to have a high body count but not

06:27:45.240 a woman yeah what's wrong with that so yeah what's i don't understand how that's oppressive

06:27:50.760 that's your opinion i think that it's oppressive well i haven't given an opinion i i'm just telling

06:27:55.480 you i don't actually understand why it's oppressive though yeah how's it oppressive you're trying to

06:28:00.760 influence her personal decision making based on your intimidation factors we should well well wait

06:28:07.480 hang on a second how are you trying to influence her personal decision making by making her feel bad

06:28:13.640 about what she's doing so well the stigma you're saying that the social stigma uh as relayed by men

06:28:21.640 is just that they don't prefer women who have high body counts right okay sorry you cut out there a

06:28:27.160 second can you when you say when you say slut shaming what does that mean like are men walking down the

06:28:32.520 street and just calling women sluts or no i mean like the so the fact that i think the earlier

06:28:40.040 conversation was women with a high body count don't necessarily deserve right the what was the term um

06:28:50.440 a traditional man a ship yeah a chivalrous or traditional man i was making that argument when

06:28:55.720 it comes to sex workers but sure yeah like yeah yeah i'm fine with it yeah i'm fine with that and so i

06:29:02.040 i think that you know having that perspective is i don't let me think about how to articulate this

06:29:10.520 so the oppression comes from the judgment position right like at the end of the day the judgment does

06:29:17.560 not lie with you the individual lies between that person and who they are meeting at the end of their

06:29:22.760 life and so that's where i i think that trying to use our what's uh human bodies to influence other

06:29:32.040 humans doesn't necessarily i think that that's oppressive to that person it's not it's none of

06:29:35.960 our business what's going on over there okay let's say for a second that um i don't know 70 of men

06:29:44.600 oh no let's make it higher let's say 90 of men and 90 of women um were not promiscuous and stayed

06:29:53.160 virgins until the day they got married and only 10 percent didn't would it be okay to slut shame then

06:30:01.400 slut shame the 10 percent

06:30:05.640 no i don't think that you should shame anyone for their sexuality or activity now okay gotcha so the

06:30:12.680 oppression here if if it came from both men and women would be creating the social stigma around

06:30:19.320 the promiscuity correct the oppression would be surrounding the promiscuity yeah yeah stigma around

06:30:26.840 it yeah like i'm anti this yes yeah but the thing is is like can you think of a better way to influence

06:30:35.880 out of society things that you don't want in society than using social stigma i mean i

06:30:42.520 think you use this example recently and and like the rebuttal to that came to mind for me would be

06:30:48.280 uh prohibition right like we tried the government tried to kind of like get our drinking problem

06:30:54.440 under control by well that wasn't by stigma that was via lawfare so they just made it they just outlawed

06:30:59.960 it outright it was not due to social stigma so nobody's outlawing you but there was there was

06:31:05.960 stigma that led to the legislation from women yeah women did that that's correct no i'm not kidding

06:31:13.160 it's really no i believe it i i have no doubt they they they have the temperance movement and that's

06:31:17.800 what led to that so but the thing is is uh the social stigma which was there which led to lawfare

06:31:25.160 uh ended up uh being repealed very very very quickly but nobody's talking about making a law that says

06:31:31.960 that you can't be promiscuous what i'm asking is if there was a behavior in society which was

06:31:39.080 which people didn't like then creating a social stigma wouldn't that be an efficient way to get rid

06:31:45.560 of the behavior it i don't think that it's a foolproof method so i don't think that it's appropriate

06:31:51.560 no well what what method would be appropriate i mean i don't think you can control anyone

06:31:57.960 yeah i mean we clearly control we control people all the time i mean you stop at a stop sign

06:32:04.200 right i mean we're in california yeah i mean you're clearly controlling you control them all the time

06:32:09.560 you put in lines and stop signs you got to get driver's licenses you have to fill out paperwork i

06:32:14.200 mean it's an entire group in fact they say most of your day you were controlled like just getting

06:32:19.720 from point a to point b it's control control control control control control right so i don't know what

06:32:24.920 you mean by we don't control people we definitely control people control the shit out of people

06:32:29.400 so the the question is like why why is it bad to have a social stigma against a something in society

06:32:35.480 that people tend not to care for that seems fine to me i think that sex is a very natural part of

06:32:41.560 life and it should be talked about more freely in a way that is empowering and not

06:32:48.440 diminishing and that's where i think the true power of a person's sexuality comes from in that

06:32:53.480 education and having transparent conversations not just with their friends but with people that

06:32:58.920 are talking to them about sex like i don't know i i've never heard this conversation kind of come

06:33:04.040 up but are you an abstinence only sex education person or are you in a full like what's your position

06:33:11.080 on that do you think that they should teach abstinence only or all-inclusive sex yeah i think

06:33:16.600 i think that considering for most of our history most women and men were virgins on their wedding

06:33:22.200 night this is a brand new occurrence if you look at the rate of stis um you know unplanned pregnancies

06:33:29.080 which lead to abortion all these other factors i can't actually think of a good reason why we as a

06:33:35.880 society would not want to promote abstinence until marriage i actually can't think of a single good

06:33:41.000 reason for that do you have one yeah i think sexual health is a very good reason to teach all-inclusive

06:33:49.800 sex education what would that have to do with sexual health being aware of what's supposed to

06:33:54.920 be happening with your body and what's not you can be aware of all of that and stay abstinent

06:34:00.360 like what would that have to do if we as let's say we as a society you still get sex ed you know how

06:34:05.080 all the parts function how the parts work right nobody's nobody's saying you can outlaw that we've

06:34:10.360 we've had sex ed by the way for a long time but i don't i don't agree with how it's taught now by

06:34:15.800 the way if we as a society said okay we're going to run a national campaign and the national campaign

06:34:23.080 is designed to promote abstinence until marriage and not sleeping around with people outside of marriage

06:34:30.120 what what would actually be the negative side effect of society of that

06:34:33.720 i think the misunderstanding of knowledge and the secretiveness is where the danger comes from so

06:34:40.200 just like if you tell a kid don't drink right your parents all tell us and don't drink we all end up

06:34:45.240 stealing alcohol from our parents and having bad experiences and so from my perspective i think it's

06:34:50.600 better why not just hand them the beer i mean there are some parents that do yeah so i mean so so your

06:34:56.680 argument here is like you gotta go fuck people or else you're gonna go fuck people uh i think you

06:35:03.720 should have a pretty solid understanding of your sexual awareness before you so why wouldn't we run

06:35:09.880 a national campaign so why wouldn't we instead run a national campaign advising people to go have as

06:35:14.840 much sex as possible i mean i would tell people they should masturbate for sure yeah what a national

06:35:21.480 campaign for masturbation so the your your argument here is so let me just ask you this if we ran a

06:35:28.360 national campaign just advertisements only from the federal government a promotion in other words

06:35:34.520 that people had more sex do you think people would have more sex if we ran a national campaign

06:35:41.160 that they should have more sex yeah do i think that they would yeah

06:35:45.640 that's a that's a weighted question in today's media um i think that if you're not a free thinker

06:35:54.120 yeah you might be inclined to that i look at anything coming from any sort of media as

06:35:59.480 educational well this wouldn't just be media right yeah i mean you can't say propaganda doesn't work

06:36:05.240 look at smoking smoking used to you used to be able to smoke everywhere you ever wanted to smoke

06:36:10.520 and through massive massive media and government propaganda it's been essentially outlawed

06:36:17.320 everywhere the only place you can really smoke is like outside but even in some outdoor areas

06:36:22.600 it's usually confined now and it used to be that if you were in that studio and it was filled with smoke

06:36:27.480 that would just been have been life right so i mean clearly it works uh same thing with getting people

06:36:33.000 to smoke they ran a huge campaign to do that and it got almost everybody smoking so i mean clearly it works

06:36:39.160 it works so by that metric knowing that sorry sorry sorry go ahead go ahead go ahead by that metric

06:36:44.280 knowing that if you were to run a national campaign for abstinence don't you think less people would

06:36:51.000 have sex if they saw that as like being patriotic and there was less social and there was a big social

06:36:57.640 stigma against it and all the government agencies were telling you this is bad for the country we need

06:37:03.720 to not do this don't you think less people would have sex it it could be likely yeah so i mean so my

06:37:10.680 question is like why what are the negative side effects of that of less people having sex before

06:37:18.440 they're married i'm gonna have her answer you guys can continue actually i'll just trigger it i'll play

06:37:24.360 i'll play it now then lol paladins donated one hundred dollars thank you lol i'm shocked so very

06:37:30.440 shocked that the woman who wants to cheat on her partner comes to the defense of women who want to

06:37:35.720 be slopes you are everything that is wrong with dating and marriage uh lol paladins by the way you

06:37:42.040 can still say i want to cheat on my husband okay i was like i'm pretty sure i didn't but lol paladins by

06:37:47.960 the way you can do the little trick thingy for the audio on these two but thank you so much for the

06:37:53.560 message lol paladins also guys um we're getting into the roast section here so um from here on out

06:37:59.960 the tts has just been lowered to uh we're going to do 20 tts uh we're going to pause you can send

06:38:07.400 them in we're going to pause it then once we get through everything we'll let the roast session come

06:38:12.040 through go ahead if do you want to respond to lol paladins uh yeah i never said i wanted to cheat on

06:38:18.120 my husband so i don't know what that's about and then uh did you i don't know if you can you

06:38:21.960 yeah can you repeat the question andrew sorry quickly if it were the case that if you were to

06:38:27.960 run a national campaign like that like we did against smoking and drunk driving and things like

06:38:33.240 that which have been highly highly effective and it actually led to way less sex in society until

06:38:38.760 people were married i can't think of a single actual downside to that i mean i guess i would only

06:38:46.520 rebuttal with i think that especially as a woman in today's society right like we are having a

06:38:51.640 transition of time periods i think being aware of your sexuality going into a relationship is very

06:38:57.400 important because how can you be comfortable having those conversations with your partner

06:39:02.840 if you haven't had those moments with yourself and how do you think that people used to do it like

06:39:07.480 in the in the 20s and 30s and 40s when they were getting married when they were virgins it didn't

06:39:12.040 it didn't seem like somebody had to like go in and show the man where the penis went pre-marital

06:39:16.440 you know what i mean pre-marital sex still happened back then yeah i know but not for the vast majority

06:39:21.560 of people i understand that but the like so so why again the times now right divorce is more easily

06:39:28.600 attainable i think that yeah they had less divorces too because it wasn't allowed you know it wasn't

06:39:34.600 it was allowed yes just not no fault you had to go show a cause but yeah it was definitely allowed

06:39:39.480 right but sometimes even getting your ass beat by your husband wasn't cause enough for a divorce so

06:39:44.440 that's where you could show cause and your show cause would be i got my ass beat by my husband

06:39:48.840 and the state would give you a divorce that was one of the causes for sure but when it's a male

06:39:52.680 dominated industry back then the divorces weren't granted if you don't mind jumping in if you don't

06:39:57.240 mind me yeah i would like to just go back to my previous question just very quickly yeah what so

06:40:02.600 you're saying that the negative side effect would be that you think women should be out there having

06:40:07.160 sex before they settle down with a man is that correct i think the negative side effect of

06:40:13.400 of waiting until marriage yeah of abstinence and more people were abstinent and didn't have sex until

06:40:19.640 marriage your downside of uh knowing your sexuality is basically saying that you think women should be

06:40:26.040 having sex before they settle down with a man i think that they need to be comfortable in sexual

06:40:31.240 scenarios yeah what does that mean they need to fuck right they need to fuck it can be anything you

06:40:36.120 you can have make out sessions you can have what there's lots of things leading up to intercourse

06:40:40.760 that you can do before then so so they need to suck dick sorry what's that do they need to suck

06:40:46.440 dick before that's what they feel like they need to figure out then sure so so the idea here is that

06:40:52.200 you would be opposed to this because you think that women need to be fucking before they settle

06:40:57.640 down and they need to be sucking dick i think everybody should not just women comfortable in their

06:41:01.960 sexuality does that even make sense to you i think everyone should be experiencing it everybody should

06:41:08.440 be out there should should the men be out there sucking dick too if that's what they're into uh wait

06:41:14.120 i don't know if we fully got an answer on this but um how exactly is it that women are oppressed if

06:41:21.960 they are being i think i don't know if slut shamed is that what your position is like uh the double

06:41:30.360 standard is oppressive to women yes just um how i'm just how is it oppressive i think that i don't think

06:41:41.080 that a woman who is is experienced sexually should be shamed okay and why i think we it is a bit we can

06:41:51.320 have that conversation i don't know if it's oppressive like i don't think it it's oppression

06:41:58.040 are you just very quickly granted sure they shouldn't be shamed so nobody says hey you're a

06:42:02.840 skank you're a slut you're this or that but if all men collectively decided that it was against

06:42:06.760 their preference to have a woman with a high body count would that still be oppression

06:42:11.480 that's their prerogative there's still going to be a man that's going to be down with it down to

06:42:16.520 wait wait no no they there would be a massive social stigma against those women they just

06:42:21.160 wouldn't slut shame them they just wouldn't get together with them would that be oppressive

06:42:26.520 i mean those women wouldn't exist without the men that were fucking them in the first place so

06:42:30.520 oh no let's just say it was a very small amount like two or three percent of men who were doing most

06:42:34.840 of the slut making meaning they had like 10 women for every one man under this hypergamous

06:42:40.920 society of which i can point to many right the top like five ten percent right they made all the

06:42:47.960 sluts and the other 90 of men just didn't want to get with them is that oppression um i mean

06:42:57.480 those are separate societies so they're not like no no it's the same society just 90 of men don't want

06:43:03.800 to get together with all of the sluts who were made sluts by only 10 of men who were able to get

06:43:09.880 those women so 90 of all the sluts are made by only 10 of the men i'm sorry 100 of the sluts are

06:43:15.800 made by only 10 of the men 90 of the men do not make the sluts but refuse to date the sluts is that

06:43:21.880 oppression no and that is the society that me and brian advocate for we advocate for the society where

06:43:31.560 if it were the case that there was a oh i don't know like 10 of men who took advantage of the

06:43:38.280 hypergamous nature of women and therefore if we were to read certain reports for instance which say

06:43:45.160 hey there's how is it possible that we have 60 or 70 of men who haven't who have no uh girlfriend

06:43:52.520 but we have 60 of women or 70 of women reporting they do have a boyfriend that means that they must be

06:43:58.200 dating the same boys right things like that those those aren't accurate numbers but just for like the

06:44:03.720 sake of argument it's it's close enough to demonstrate the point if that is the case

06:44:08.760 right then what then it's not social shame that those men refuse to end up with those women right

06:44:14.760 you're i guess basically the only beef that you would have would be with the guys you were

06:44:20.680 right where the sluts were that would be the only beef sure yeah uh i mean great and i guess quick

06:44:30.840 thing on the i guess moving off the oppression though you do have an issue with the double

06:44:35.720 standard uh who who here thinks it's a bit you know unfair that you know women perhaps are more

06:44:43.960 shamed than men when it comes to like uh being promiscuous that's your that's your grievance right

06:44:52.280 i'm there i feel yeah it's it's a double standard but i mean or the other thing is like well why is it

06:44:59.720 that there's yeah but what's wrong with double standards anyway double standards are fine yeah

06:45:06.520 like for example i don't think there's perfect like symmetry uh on this thing because women desire

06:45:12.440 all kinds of things in a partner in a boyfriend that they don't bring to the table so like for

06:45:19.640 example would it be a double double standard a guy with a high body count he's like i only want to date

06:45:23.880 virgins that's his prerogative he likes inexperienced women that's fine but i don't think like is the you

06:45:33.320 would consider that like a double standard or you might even say kind of like hypocritical or wrong for

06:45:39.320 a guy with a high body count to be like oh i'd rather date a woman with a low body count or a virgin

06:45:44.600 i don't know if that i mean or or is it just like are you saying oh just preferences i guess that's

06:45:53.800 fine yeah i think that's his preference i don't i think is it weird is it a weird preference or uh

06:45:59.160 yeah i think it's kind of well no i don't think it's well i don't know that's a weighted question

06:46:04.440 i think it can be weird depending on the motivation for wanting the body count if it's just because he

06:46:09.160 wants someone that has a low body count and he's been through them and he kind of knows how it goes

06:46:15.960 then uh that's one thing but i think that there can be many motivations for that position okay this

06:46:23.320 the oppression of sluts slut shaming shall not stop until the oppression against women being such height

06:46:31.800 supremacist stop until women stop oppressing men based on their height they must not ever give up

06:46:40.360 on the fight of of oppressing them back based on their promiscuity that seems like if it if you don't

06:46:47.160 want to hold the double standard right you would have to say that men are quite oppressed by women

06:46:52.760 who shame them often for not reaching their height requirements they are height supremacists if

06:46:59.000 i mean it's true wait i guess one thing on this so uh do you think hookup culture is good or bad

06:47:08.760 um hookup culture i think so i guess the tendency of people to engage in casual sexual encounters

06:47:17.880 or like the movement away from or devaluing of monogamous long-term relationships

06:47:25.080 movement away from movement away from that so i mean hookup culture would i mean it's more so like

06:47:32.440 the action of like people engaging in promiscuity um having multiple sexual partners or even having

06:47:38.600 a string of just casual sexual partners kind of evading or movement away from long-term monogamous

06:47:45.000 relationships i think uh hookup culture can serve some purpose in which is what sorry go ahead

06:47:53.080 i didn't mean to cut you off good um i so i think that hookup culture can serve some purpose um i

06:48:00.840 think that stds are you going to keep interrupting me or do i get to finish my whole thought okay thank

06:48:08.520 you so i think hookup culture can be positive in some ways but i do think it has taken aback from

06:48:14.200 our relationship building skills i think that social media especially has been detrimental to the

06:48:20.360 expectation of lifestyles it's a highlight reel everything you put online is a highlight reel

06:48:26.360 and so i think um much like the conversations of equality and um you know disagreements and

06:48:33.480 relationships i think people it's just easier now with hookup culture to like walk away with it and be

06:48:38.760 done and move on to the next where so that's a detriment to us but i think that um the sex positivity that

06:48:46.600 comes from being affirmed in your position and your choices and knowing what you like and don't like

06:48:52.040 is going to help you find a better partner in the long run so how about this in totality is hookup

06:48:56.360 culture good or bad granting that maybe there are some good things about hookup culture i'm sure you

06:49:02.760 probably agree there's some bad uh in total is it good or bad i don't know the answer to that i can't

06:49:11.480 i don't i can't decide which way one way or the other let me ask the rest of the panel hookup culture

06:49:16.360 good or bad now brian brian i'm um i'm at 3 a.m my time i got my uh my out there but i am going to do a

06:49:24.920 raid before you um andrew before you go before you go i'll make one quick point here i did want you to

06:49:32.200 you want to do like a quick two minutes on knolls yeah i can do that let me um just the point i guess

06:49:37.560 the point i was trying to make on that is that uh when it comes to i guess the the shaming you

06:49:42.360 object to the shaming uh i think most people tend to agree that hookup culture is bad we're

06:49:47.560 obviously not going to be able to pass any laws that put any sort of limits on men or women's uh

06:49:53.160 sexual activity so the only way if we as a society deem hookup culture like we can't have our cake

06:50:00.280 and eat it too if hook up what's the entailment of uh hookup culture bad we want it to go away okay we

06:50:06.920 need to uh we need to build up long-term relationships we need to uh stifle not through

06:50:13.400 laws but through social shaming promiscuity the only way to do that again we're not going to pass

06:50:19.480 laws saying you can't like fuck people or whatever maybe i don't know maybe but uh that's not going to

06:50:24.840 happen because we you know whatever so the only way to achieve the destruction or reduction or

06:50:33.000 limitation of hookup culture is by shaming ergo shaming promiscuity is good and it's the only way

06:50:44.840 to stop hookup culture any thoughts on that nope so do you you're on my team like we should shame

06:50:53.320 sluts no i'm not on your team i disagree and fuck boys no fuck boy shaming no slut shaming

06:50:59.240 i mean if we're if we're not slamming if not shaming any of the sluts then okay so then i mean

06:51:05.560 well you weren't able to give me a definitive if you think hookup culture overall in totality

06:51:10.120 is good or bad i think everybody else here said it was bad yeah i think it's bad the only way we're

06:51:15.960 going to achieve like if something is bad we should probably do something to like counteract it in this

06:51:22.120 case the only means of achieving a reduction or elimination of hookup culture would be like

06:51:28.600 substantial social shaming of promiscuity sluts fuck boys this sort of thing absent that it's going

06:51:35.720 to continue it's going to get worse std rates are going to continue to rise rise rise people are going

06:51:40.920 to be continue to be dissatisfied in relationships people are going to continue um getting into uh

06:51:48.120 other sort of bad situations when it comes to casual sexual encounters in any case um

06:51:52.440 andrew you do have to leave so uh you wanted to do quick response to michael knowles yeah yeah so

06:51:59.000 very quickly too it was uh nice to meet the entire panel and i'm very glad that you guys came on we were

06:52:04.040 able to have this uh actually fairly reasonable discussion most of the night it was uh it's kind of

06:52:11.000 that doesn't happen that often right usually we have at least a couple like you've been on a few

06:52:15.480 you've been on a few of these panels you know but anyway so yeah over to the michael knowles thing

06:52:21.800 uh he had prefaced a uh video uh it was an exchange i had with another guest on here nala

06:52:28.840 but he had prefaced it with he doesn't want to get involved in any drama and i think that that's fine

06:52:33.960 so i'm not going to give him any uh but i do want to say this that most of the people who have reacted

06:52:39.880 poorly to this clip whether it's to me or to her probably didn't actually watch the entire episode

06:52:46.440 and they probably need to do that before they say a word about it my challenge to michael knowles is

06:52:51.640 that yeah i've i've seen a lot of the kind of sniping around about the manosphere and this and that

06:52:57.240 and kind of taking the more feminist perspective and i'd like to challenge michael knowles to a debate

06:53:03.000 on the whatever podcast uh just one v one he's been on before so hi we know uh brian atlas will

06:53:09.480 be a fair moderator and the the reason i would like to challenge him to this debate is because

06:53:14.920 the only time i've ever seen him actually engage with this fear which is full of the most degenerate

06:53:20.600 scumbags on planet earth um was in a debate against pearl davis and i was the one who prepped her

06:53:27.880 for that debate so i would actually like to take him on on his various views because i don't think

06:53:34.440 he knows very much about what he's talking about on this topic and i'm an orthodox christian uh he's

06:53:40.760 a catholic and i think it would be absolutely fine to have such a debate so that would be my challenge

06:53:46.840 to michael knowles and also that uh ultimately i think most people have a very very wrong idea about

06:53:54.440 what happens with the uh former prostitute to save your pipeline which is currently happening right

06:54:02.120 under everybody's nose and we just kind of pretend that it's not happening and i think that if something

06:54:07.560 that needs to be addressed i'm often criticized for not taking on the best of the best debaters even

06:54:12.760 though i do so right now you can see publicly i'm offering such a challenge and i will of course split

06:54:20.440 the uh tab with brian atlas along with a reasonable fee if that's what michael wants to come out to

06:54:28.440 whatever podcasts have this much needed debate so that's what i'd like to say on that can we see the

06:54:35.320 clip uh it's very very long yeah and he's not here he's not here to defend himself in all fairness

06:54:42.840 one thing that brian's always been really good about right is if the person is not there to defend

06:54:47.080 themselves he usually won't allow people to say one one way or the other about them that's always

06:54:52.520 been a good thing about brian atlas so we'll uh we'll leave it there but uh yeah clip it ship it

06:54:58.280 let's see if he if uh if it's actually true that he will tangle up on these issues which is a place

06:55:04.120 where he's desperately needed uh so that we can at least get his side versus mine and uh and i'll leave

06:55:10.600 it there yeah andrew thank you for coming uh one quick question for you if you have a just another minute

06:55:15.640 sure uh there was i guess one of the confusions here at least there was some implication of

06:55:22.040 whatever because there's claims that it was misleadingly cut but i mean even in the short

06:55:29.400 which is like 40 50 seconds itself at least in my interpretation mind you my editor made the clip i

06:55:36.360 we pump out 30 clips a day i don't really i give them that's not what happened it had nothing to do with

06:55:40.840 the clip yeah no yeah here well here's what happened oh there was a clip that nala lied about

06:55:47.080 everything clip that was released by whatever and it was actually even contextualized in the clip what

06:55:52.120 it was some other account posted this clip i've never seen this account before they posted the clip

06:55:59.560 and it said under nala lies about being a christian that admits to lying about everything that had

06:56:05.480 nothing to do with whatever's account right and so they were trying to say that the whatever

06:56:10.200 podcast had click baited that whatever podcast didn't do anything they just did their normal clips

06:56:15.080 some other account put that as the headliner i actually went to that account i retweeted it first

06:56:22.440 right and then i read what the header on it was that she had lied about being a christian i actually

06:56:27.720 deleted the tweet went over immediately and put underneath that tweet from that account uh no this is not

06:56:34.440 accurate that is not what she was talking about so uh somebody who was on that whatever broadcast

06:56:40.280 had clarified that within like a couple of minutes anyway so it's ridiculous to try to throw shade

06:56:46.600 on whatever for just a regular normal click yeah a normal clip i even even in that short clip i think

06:56:54.360 we we certainly included parts where she's essentially saying uh i don't think there's any implication that

06:57:00.680 because they i think other people took it to mean or even perhaps i think michael even understood the

06:57:07.480 context but took it to mean that nala went on michael knolls's show and lied i don't think that's the

06:57:15.320 context of the clip the context of the clip is was while she was still active doing only fans she was going

06:57:22.440 on podcasts and lying this is one of the this this particular episode has the most selectively edited

06:57:31.800 clips of any episode i've seen come off of whatever not just by um a couple of accounts but by hundreds

06:57:39.240 of people i've seen many exchanges where uh rachel and her had the exchange and they selectively edited

06:57:45.880 out that rachel said to her i don't believe you're a christian because you deny the trinity and this and

06:57:51.400 that and all it said is i don't think you're a christian and then it cuts to her saying because

06:57:55.000 you don't know church history so it is some of the most widely selectively edited content that i've

06:58:01.480 ever seen and it's because so many people have a stake in this current phenomenon of the former

06:58:07.400 prostitute to save your pipeline and that's why i think it needs to be hashed out so badly

06:58:13.160 got it cool well hey andrew thank you for uh tuning tuning in we'll uh try to get that set up with uh

06:58:19.560 with michael all right guys thanks so much thank you nice to meet you it's very nice to meet all of

06:58:23.880 you thank you for joining us andrew do appreciate it small fangirl moment when rachel wanted to throw

06:58:28.920 me a comment on me so shout out to rachel yeah that was awesome take care guys yo thank you andrew

06:58:35.320 appreciate it have a good night man uh okay so we're gonna do the rose session here in just a moment

06:58:40.360 then we're gonna wrap up the show uh a few last were there any other things for like women being

06:58:44.920 oppressed or no you said women are oppressed why are why are women oppressed that was my adiq reading

06:58:50.440 the question wrong okay fair enough fair enough and then i'm pretty sure there's just uh let's see

06:58:57.960 uh you can cena you can be racist towards white people you disagree

06:59:05.080 i disagree as in like i said i cannot you cannot no it says you can be racist towards white people you

06:59:10.520 disagree so you think you can't be racist no okay she misread it then all right and then let's see

06:59:17.800 here i think uh the final thing from the questionnaire then goes to isabella isabella

06:59:26.120 it says here it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman to which you disagree

06:59:30.920 wait it's not oh boy there no read it again read it again room temp okay you circled disagree to

06:59:42.840 it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman it's it is it is straight for a man to date a trans

06:59:51.240 woman right yeah so you would you you would disagree that it's not straight so your your position is

06:59:58.600 is it's straight for a man to date a trans woman yes okay uh give me one sec to get right guys i know

07:00:07.640 there's uh that the roast coming in they're on hold we will get to them in just a moment uh so this is

07:00:13.160 the final thing from the questionnaire uh just curious how's it straight

07:00:21.560 if they identify as a woman they're seen as a woman if they have

07:00:24.280 they can sex change well you can't change your sex oh i mean surgery to change your private

07:00:31.720 does that make you a woman yes what if you don't identify as a woman but you have that procedure are

07:00:38.520 you a woman like if you're a eunuch or something does that make you a woman yes wait so if you get your

07:00:47.240 penis chopped off but you don't id as a woman oh wait no no no you get the surgery yeah you get your

07:00:54.600 penis chopped off does that make you a woman you still id as a man oh no i i think what you are is

07:01:04.520 what you see yourself as but so you can id as a woman even without getting the surgery right yeah yeah

07:01:09.640 uh so it all comes down to your self id right uh so i guess my question to you is on this one um

07:01:22.360 let me see did andrew one sec i'm checking this um so uh what is a woman

07:01:33.080 um a woman someone who identifies as a woman can you define that without using the word woman

07:01:39.640 who identifies with feminine feminine virtues

07:01:47.320 yeah but can you define woman without using the word woman

07:01:53.160 feminine virtues can you define woman without using the word feminine

07:01:59.720 no okay um oh you have something yeah natural grown labias

07:02:06.120 yes okay that's reasonable that's reasonable so okay you're saying it would be straight

07:02:14.360 straight for a man to date a trans woman yeah i think you could be straight and by the way what's

07:02:20.680 your orientation straight i'm straight okay i'm straight so you would date uh a trans woman it's my

07:02:26.680 preference and i wouldn't or sorry excuse me i know you would date a trans man i i wouldn't because i don't

07:02:32.680 prefer that but i think other people can and they can be valid it's just preference right you got

07:02:39.160 but the trans man is a man isn't it yes so you wouldn't date a man if i'm not with a vagina no

07:02:48.360 well the trans the uh post it would be a post-operative trans man would you date them

07:02:56.360 if i wasn't taken yeah maybe okay sure um but you wouldn't date a pre-operative trans man no even

07:03:05.400 though it's still a man pre-operatively okay um so a couple questions here um so there's gender and

07:03:12.120 sex are you you're familiar with the difference right yes okay um so

07:03:16.520 can people change their gender yes can people change their sex no okay uh so a male cannot become

07:03:27.080 a female um their sex assigned at birth no well their sex you can't change your sex at any point

07:03:35.160 whether it's assigned at birth whether it's assigned right now when i'm looking at all of you as females

07:03:40.920 um you can't change your sex right okay uh what does straight what what is straight slang for

07:03:50.440 i don't we're heterosexual opposite gender well you're about to say heterosexual attraction to the

07:03:56.040 opposite gender but you're about to say heterosexual and i corrected myself so oh it wouldn't be heterosexual

07:04:02.200 or it would be are straight people heterosexual yes okay uh straight means heterosexual unless you have

07:04:10.200 some other definition of straight right okay um and so when we say homosexual we mean same-sex

07:04:18.920 relationship right okay and you would agree or you've already conceded okay hold on okay okay okay

07:04:26.600 so you've already conceded though that uh

07:04:31.240 that transgender women have not changed their sex so

07:04:35.480 do you agree or disagree with the following statement uh a transgender woman is male

07:04:44.360 oh my friends are gonna hate me stop

07:04:47.720 please um

07:04:51.240 looking at it through sex you know you can't change your sex can't change so a transgender woman is

07:04:57.560 a man no well i'm even gonna be i guess nice here and say that you can change your gender i don't think

07:05:07.080 this actually but for the sake of the conversation so you can change your gender right yeah transgender

07:05:12.520 woman you can self-idea as a woman um but you've already agreed with me that you can't change your sex

07:05:18.280 right yeah so they were they were um they're male but their gender identity is woman yeah right um

07:05:26.840 so trans uh a transgender woman is

07:05:30.440 male you agree with this through sex yeah their gender identity would be a woman yeah but their

07:05:36.360 sex is male yes um and then so homosexual means same-sex relationship right so two males

07:05:43.880 engaging in a romantic or sexual relationship would be homosexual okay okay so mandating a transgender woman is

07:05:51.720 homosexual

07:05:54.680 okay all right there you go um do you want to change your position on this at all or like so is it not straight

07:06:01.480 uh i mean you're right i i don't know i want to let i people can believe what they i don't know

07:06:14.280 yeah you're you're going in a tricky situation okay so is it straight no

07:06:24.680 even post-operatively

07:06:29.000 pre-operatively how about this a couple questions then um a few scenarios i mean you've already kind

07:06:34.920 of yeah you i'll give you a scenario i'll give you a scenario though uh would a man giving oral

07:06:40.120 sex to a transgender woman with a penis is that uh heterosexual or homosexual homosexual okay

07:06:46.520 a man having penetrative anal sex with a transgender woman is that heterosexual or homosexual

07:06:53.560 the man's

07:06:56.840 he could be receiving or giving homosexual okay a lesbian woman being penetrated by a

07:07:02.440 transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual or homosexual oh okay all right you're all your

07:07:07.800 friends are going to hate you now good job uh you can tell them i i guess i forced you um

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07:12:29.640 send another writing the whole thing in maybe that you deleted it uh makeup removal

07:12:35.320 makeup removal removal my deals indeed okay who's good y'all gonna do it cena you're gonna do it

07:12:42.440 you're looking at me cena you're gonna do it okay boom boom boom all i have to say is that one is

07:12:50.120 yeah i need two oh sorry sorry i didn't throw that far my bad i can go directly are you wearing makeup no

07:12:57.960 can i have two sure thank you let's go so i need a lot of makeup okay you want one or

07:13:05.640 it's like you don't want to i need two too no problem i gave you two yeah you you're trying to

07:13:11.080 hustle me for uh extra no you only gave me two you're trying to hustle me i was gonna bring my

07:13:15.560 phone all the things i know you're doing makeup off taking the makeup off because i don't think

07:13:21.640 that's gonna take it off i'm gonna look like a man can i have a mirror nope what you got the one

07:13:25.880 k donated twenty dollars the woman with the blue white shirt has a nice right smile oh yeah check it

07:13:33.560 out on instagram katie nicole valentine thank you as vet donated twenty dollars no problem i'll

07:13:44.040 say it to his face open your legs winking face uh that thank you man appreciate it thank you for the

07:13:52.200 uh double agent donated twenty dollars happy thanksgiving to everyone at whatever who make

07:14:00.840 it all possible twice a week cheers to you all with good health wealth good fortune mass deportations

07:14:08.120 as we prepare to make america great again hell yeah i'll let the others come through one sec guys

07:14:19.560 daniel nostri donated twenty dollars congratulations all you illegal immigrants on the panel now you all

07:14:26.840 accept conservative values as well as that a man is a man and that gender is the same exact thing as

07:14:32.840 sex to keep your green card wait what was that one they're donated twenty dollars retry cena i can fix

07:14:41.080 you care six please don't ever procreate and pass your weird sexual views onto offspring it's always the

07:14:48.760 mental health advocates that have the most bizarre takes on sex vecter donated twenty dollars my spring

07:14:56.840 for goes like

07:15:04.040 nice

07:15:04.440 um i have some good news and i have some bad news the good news is i saved a bunch of money on my

07:15:20.280 car insurance by switching to geico uh the bad news is that some of the ttss fell off so i will read them

07:15:28.680 which is better which is a better deal how about that suckers not suck you know what i i don't know

07:15:34.920 fuck it guys i'm tripping on caffeine okay uh hold on let me see if i can one more time

07:15:40.760 i'm trying to donate twenty dollars my sprinkler goes like this

07:15:45.960 it's not letting me start guys

07:15:57.320 who's gonna do a rap

07:16:00.920 so i do need to uh i'm gonna read the ttss stream labs is so annoying i apologize

07:16:08.760 i thought i would be able to pull it up on my ipad i i checked my phone i checked three devices

07:16:15.000 it's not letting me do it i'm just gonna have to read it it won't even let me show the display

07:16:21.080 so i do apologize i i apologize fucking stream labs needs to i've been messaging them forever to

07:16:27.880 not let these fall off and you should be able to pull up every single tts

07:16:32.920 every single tts this has come through i don't know why they do this but um

07:16:36.920 clark weiser sent in twenty dollars and 69 cents chair six's husband better change the locks when

07:16:45.080 she goes to mexico if she can forget her bodies she will forget she's married

07:16:51.240 do you have a response to clark weiser i won't forget i'm married can you guys hold up

07:16:56.520 the to the camera the the damage oh mine's worse than ever can you guys hold up the carnage that you

07:17:03.240 guys have done on my precious makeup wipes god damn bro what the fuck y'all crazy that's crazy man

07:17:12.840 she oh cena went get get it all off take the lash hey lashes off too no oh whoa yeah i'm used to you

07:17:21.640 with like the crazy eyeliner man that's okay vector vector i do apologize fuck stream labs uh just kidding

07:17:27.960 stream labs but come on man gotta fix this shit man part scandinavian here this is for you

07:17:33.800 whoa yeah sorry i was looking i've been looking down the whole time so i didn't even get the

07:17:39.640 transition it's just like makeup no makeup you look yeah like so young with that it's like different

07:17:47.000 manly erroneous no you do not erroneous i feel like it just um okay for emily this is from vector yeah

07:17:54.360 part scandinavian here emily quite a role reversal in the past vikings pillaged villages for free

07:18:03.400 you are pillaging men for a fee all the viking men became simps lol

07:18:17.960 thank you vector michigan christian says brian you finally found a woman worth dating

07:18:22.200 women pay attention to based shorty also conscription or not women suck at decisions and voting

07:18:30.280 who supports oh my who supports her not my this is the oh my god i wish the teeth oh my

07:18:36.200 vector bro you're making me read this shit bro this is vector says that vector says no sorry michigan

07:18:43.160 christian says uh so who supports repealing the 19th question mark maga uh thank you michigan christian

07:18:50.200 vector tell me if these came through previously because we might be getting caught up vector

07:18:55.640 isabella how dare you you've gone and pissed off the local zoo all of the zoo keepers are running amok

07:19:03.160 trying to figure out why their favorite bull is missing its nose ring i have my nose ring yeah that's

07:19:10.600 okay uh josh says change the bear question to this in 10 seconds all of a sudden the whatever

07:19:22.520 studio is empty except for the woman and either a man or a bear door is welded shut no one can open

07:19:29.400 it for 10 hours choose that was the first one yeah that one was red oh did we yeah did you guys respond

07:19:35.720 no it's man we all said man i can't see can i do it man do you want to take your i can't oh they're like

07:19:50.440 they're glued on or whatever um they're not like yeah but so guys for the scenario do you pick the

07:19:56.920 bear for like being in the studio don't read don't i'll read it later don't worry hello going around

07:20:05.640 do you pick the bear a man man man for that scenario and here i'll pick the man i think they didn't you

07:20:11.480 guys most of you picked man anyway everyone i was the only bear uh toast tell me if this one came

07:20:18.440 through i feel like the equivalent to the body count first date question would be asking what a

07:20:22.920 man does for a job on first date because women want to be provided for and men want to know their

07:20:28.440 date is not a 30 foe 304 i messed up the rhyme thank you toast sorry that it didn't come in as a tts

07:20:36.040 streamlabs fucked it up and then i'm pretty sure okay we're all caught up we're all caught up caught

07:20:42.760 caught up lol paladins donated twenty dollars i changed my mind we'll keep number five here in

07:20:52.360 the united states mexico can have number six and then we build the wall ten feet higher

07:21:00.200 lol paladins thank you for the uh thank you appreciate it i don't give a

07:21:07.160 shit talk 76 donated twenty dollars chair five looks stunning without makeup

07:21:16.040 she never was wearing makeup i don't think she was wearing any makeup so uh so thank you for the

07:21:21.560 tts man big sass energy donated twenty dollars damn chair three you're cute you should probably

07:21:30.200 drop the degenerate face paint very pretty i'll stick to it thank you all right big sass energy

07:21:37.640 thanks for the tts let me just re see this one daniel nostri donated twenty dollars defy the official

07:21:46.280 policies of this trump administration and enjoy your temporary status of residence in this nation

07:21:51.560 be revoked you new age feminist nazi scumbag frankists can all go home damn aggressive is this to me no

07:22:02.280 is this i'm not sure i think it's to all the feminists here no because he said residency

07:22:08.440 so i'm the only legal here i'm just getting a look on the the makeup you know i think it's okay

07:22:16.840 are your eyes red no i'm so sensitive yeah i think your eye is actually getting so swelling

07:22:23.720 you're gonna have a black eye what did you do to yourself cena i was going like

07:22:29.160 here cena read this one for me brian hook me up yeah yeah read it go brian hook me up with the

07:22:37.560 uh you can you take you out cena wait don't look at my red eye

07:22:57.240 uh thank you uh you 30. all right let me check a couple things here oh we got a couple more coming

07:23:03.640 through guys get last uh get your tts's in boys we're gonna wrap the stream here pretty soon so

07:23:10.760 final call on the tts messages if you want to ask out cena if you want to call anybody a feminist

07:23:18.920 nazi or i don't know what the fuck if you want to um

07:23:24.520 call me fat whatever you want to do you can do it uh okay call me a racist yes she wants to

07:23:31.880 people have donated 20 there we go no makeup just how god made them also brian when are you coming

07:23:40.920 home to the orthodox church god bless everyone you know look uh maybe uh i'll go to uh i think it's

07:23:51.560 called what the liturgy with uh andrew when he's back in town we'll see you know uh i think like

07:23:57.560 christianity is really compelling i think the issue is though and i was thinking about this the other

07:24:04.600 day is that i don't want to be one of these like and maybe you guys would be like well brian just

07:24:11.400 fucking stop doing that shit but like i don't want to be one of these uh like i when it comes to religion

07:24:18.520 i don't want to be like half a gangster like if i if i like i gotta be all in you know what i mean

07:24:26.200 and there's these guys online who like claim to be a religion there's a lot of religious people who

07:24:32.920 claim to be wait what hold it you can finish sorry oh no what were you saying um i was just gonna say

07:24:39.800 faith can be a journey you know no one's perfect no one is perfect in their faith you know you can

07:24:45.720 continue to try to follow jesus well no but you stumble sometimes no but like i i think that

07:24:51.400 the thing is though is that i i have a couple complications so my view on marriage uh and then

07:24:58.200 like look i don't i don't believe in like having a bunch of casual sex i prefer long-term relationships

07:25:04.920 but i also don't i'm not gonna wait until marriage to have sex uh maybe that makes me a degen i mean

07:25:14.920 look i'm not trying to like have a string of one night stands again if i sleep with a girl i have

07:25:20.040 intentions to like pursue something long-term typically unless she like goes fucking bat

07:25:24.520 shit crazy like post sex or whatever so um but i think my issue is there's a lot of these people

07:25:31.480 who like claim to be religious but behind the scenes like in reality they're doing like they're

07:25:40.360 doing drugs they're like fucking only fans girls they're like super degen they're hooking up with

07:25:48.120 a bunch of chicks so they like claim to be religious but they're not adhering to the

07:25:55.000 religious values and i think it would be disrespectful to the religion to like claim that

07:26:01.080 that oh i'm christian now and i'm like adhering to christian values all the while engaging in

07:26:12.120 behavior that is in contravention of the faith and biblical values so and then my issues with marriage

07:26:22.520 are not really addressed i don't know does that make sense chat you know what i mean

07:26:27.800 you know what i mean yeah me personally i'm a christian but i don't feel the need to go to

07:26:35.960 church every sunday me personally if you do that that's perfectly fine but me and um yeah i don't go

07:26:43.400 to church every sunday i don't read my bible every day my one thing is i pray every night um but i go out

07:26:49.960 i get drunk which is not you know quote unquote godly it's not christian of me but i still love god

07:26:57.240 and i have good morals i feel like um so i don't feel like you need to be you know 100 on you know

07:27:04.680 with every single christian value that i feel like a lot of christians are very hypocritical nowadays

07:27:10.040 when it comes to that yeah i guess it's just i think the big roadblock would be the marriage component

07:27:18.040 for me just because of all the risks that i see when it comes to marriage it's like you become a

07:27:21.960 christian it's like okay well i don't want to get married so it's like that would be a sin

07:27:26.120 and to have like children out of wedlock i do want children to have sex out of wedlock um

07:27:34.440 so it's like and also somebody was like said i was using contravention wrong the definition is like

07:27:41.400 like in a manner contrary to like a rule or law so this would be like biblical law biblical values um

07:27:53.400 but yeah i don't know you guys know these creators right you guys know these like creators that are uh

07:28:02.120 claimed to be a religion and then they'd be like

07:28:05.880 fucking only fans girls and like doing drugs and partying and all this shit it's just like i don't

07:28:11.640 want to be that person that's like putting on the front where i'm like trying to get bonus points by

07:28:16.360 claiming to be a religion claiming to be a christian whatever but not but not adhering to the the rules

07:28:25.640 of the religion you gotta be uh you know whatever okay anyways whatever sorry i'm

07:28:33.640 fucking monologue here okay lol paladins donated twenty dollars most of the panel looks better

07:28:41.960 without makeup stop trying to make yourself look like prostitutes and maybe your dating life would

07:28:47.960 improve all right lol paladins thank you so much man appreciate it big sass energy donated twenty

07:28:54.360 dollars warning to all the liberal digins that are on and watching this show the trump admin has

07:29:00.520 authorized project twenty twenty five and we have all the crystals we need to lock you up forever

07:29:09.640 uh cena now looks exactly how she looks on a normal weekday after her all-nighter

07:29:15.400 dildo-a-thon online

07:29:17.240 kitten bear donated twenty dollars wtf cena you are so much prettier without makeup please quit if

07:29:29.560 while your body count is still low and you can recover some dignity you've still got a chance to

07:29:35.080 make it out yeah yeah i'm a simp do you wear contacts oh okay uh

07:29:43.240 cina actually looks way better without all that stuff plastered all over her face too bad she can't

07:29:52.440 prevent herself from being a hold on

07:29:59.480 a she was a whore b she was a whore that word uh thank you

07:30:05.160 lol paladins donated twenty dollars brixton you don't have to be perfectly moral to be christian

07:30:13.960 there is a bigger old black hint it's in the name christian you're already living a more moral life

07:30:20.520 than grifters like nala and mk uh well i don't know about that but uh i do appreciate the uh message man

07:30:29.960 thank you so much for the uh tts and all your additional support uh yeah i don't know it's just

07:30:35.400 like uh i don't know you can't be like i wouldn't do this like bro you can't be this uh what does rachel

07:30:43.320 call it like a heresy christian like you you gotta be all in you know and i i think the roadblock

07:30:51.080 is i have significant criticisms of marriage which contradict the christian faith uh

07:31:01.880 and i don't know how i get that's i think a big like sticking point you know so uh not to say like

07:31:08.920 hey anyways whatever okay would you date a religious woman sure gmd jim donated twenty dollars brian if you

07:31:17.240 have a true conversion to christianity most of your old ideas will naturally change if you join a

07:31:23.480 church and fake it then nothing will change christianity is not a social club uh yo jim thank

07:31:31.080 you man appreciate it uh okay hold on bro big sass energy donated twenty dollars brian to be christian all

07:31:43.320 we ask is you stop sticking burritos up your bum small ask dude come on damn that's crazy don't let's

07:31:51.240 not bring the burrito thing back that that was like three months ago it's oh it people forgot about

07:31:56.200 that shit man keep that shit on the clearly not not kitten bear donated twenty dollars

07:32:02.280 i like big boobah nice very nice uh you know what i will i will for for a champagne pop right now i

07:32:14.680 will eat a burrito i have a burrito in the refrigerator i'll eat it on stream right now

07:32:18.760 eat it under three bites oh wait do we need to do another food thing with you yes okay uh what can we

07:32:26.120 oh there's the snickers bar i'm coming who's can i who's snickers uh dez can you get me the snickers

07:32:33.640 bar i put in the fridge i don't know why i put in the fridge i don't know i was like somebody wants

07:32:37.320 a cold snickers one bite i can't do how big is it six inches it's like it's on the side there's only one

07:32:46.440 snickers bar in the fridge yeah yeah yeah there's only one

07:32:57.160 daniel nostri donated twenty dollars the power of christ compels you see the power of christ compels

07:33:04.120 you all right open it up and then you have to you have it's two separate bars okay you have to eat it

07:33:10.040 in one you don't have to eat the paper don't need the paper no wait i have to eat it in one like

07:33:15.560 both of them no one of them in one oh you can put it in uh each cheek yeah no just one oh all right

07:33:22.200 here we go this is she this is like her before you do it i'll explain it so okay cena's whole tiktok

07:33:29.320 is her eating one of my tiktoks it's just eating food all right good

07:33:33.080 it's a baby yeah okay go ahead you have to one bite

07:33:45.720 don't cover

07:33:48.680 don't cover cena don't cover let them see how ridiculous you look

07:33:54.520 is she gonna be able to do it i don't know are you even chewing smallest chews ever

07:34:05.800 i don't think she can actually chew it it's just gonna be there the rest of the

07:34:09.640 it's gonna be way more difficult to chew than a room yeah it's just melting yeah i made it yeah

07:34:15.400 i made it a little extra hard

07:34:18.360 honestly i know it's just like stuck in there now it's so chewy

07:34:30.360 it's really hard

07:34:35.160 all right i'll let the other ones come through josh donated twenty dollars brian when you realize

07:34:42.200 that jesus really is who he claimed to be everything will change you don't have to

07:34:47.640 know how to pray i encourage you to just talk to god ask him to reveal himself to you all right

07:34:55.880 thank you man appreciate that uh

07:35:00.600 let's see here we have captain awesome captain awesome donated twenty dollars

07:35:06.600 how does it feel to be one of many but never the one

07:35:11.000 that's for all of you guys thanks for that clarification

07:35:17.640 anybody okay christopher scott donated 20 shots back you know we shall never forget the

07:35:26.520 burrito bit it is now and shall forever be whatever law damn bro that's brutal i do have a

07:35:33.080 a chicken burrito no it's big too in the danny underscore simon donated twenty dollars

07:35:42.200 hottest girl on the panel is solid four ugliest panel of all time brian first off they took their

07:35:49.400 makeup off be nice second off second off send in a photo so we can judge you yeah danny simon

07:35:57.480 post what if this is a chick and she's just hating oh then we really can danny that could be a chick

07:36:03.480 that's a chick's name danny you want to send in a photo my dm's on instagram at whatever we'll pull

07:36:09.080 up a photo if you want we'll do it um you have to eat the other one now no i have i before you swallow

07:36:16.360 that's good that's good all right uh here we're going to shout out twitch if damien you can pull

07:36:31.080 up twitch then we'll do discord uh any other ones that come through we'll read them and then we'll uh

07:36:36.040 guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow in a prime sub if you have one if you have

07:36:47.160 amazon prime you can link it to your twitch quick free easy way to support the show every single

07:36:52.920 month you've been watching the whatever podcast on npr blah blah blah okay fuck npr uh hey public

07:37:00.760 radio yo guys drop us a prime it's been 40 minutes since we had a prime a thousand people watching

07:37:05.640 drop us a follow guys me and andrew are going to be playing world of warcraft very soon so if you

07:37:11.800 guys want to catch some gaming streams twitch.tv slash whatever check if you have a prime sub

07:37:17.400 available i think it's bugged boys check if you have a prime sub available drop one before the end of the

07:37:21.560 stream and then we're gonna go we gotta shout out the discord boys that's discord.gg slash whatever

07:37:29.480 discord.gg slash whatever we post all the behind the scenes on there anytime there's any some

07:37:35.560 crazy kickoffs all that kind of stuff we post check out the bingo this bingo card you're gonna

07:37:41.320 love it boys you play the bingo card while you're watching the stream that's in the discord okay then

07:37:46.840 you're gonna pull up the world of warcraft go there you go go to the the raid sign up guys

07:37:52.360 molten core we're gonna play december 24th or sorry december 12th molten core 40-man raid whatever

07:38:01.320 guild night slayer pvp realm anniversary realm get on it okay thank you thank you very much appreciate

07:38:09.080 it guys join the discord all right gmd jim donated twenty dollars brian i want nothing more than for

07:38:17.640 you and all to come to christ you must realize you have to surrender to him and trust he will guide you

07:38:24.360 in right way i promise he will and you will know joy uh thank you for the tts jim i really appreciate

07:38:30.360 it uh man it's hard the marriage thing man that's a sticking point i don't know i don't know how you're

07:38:36.120 gonna i don't know i don't think you're gonna meet a nice girl daniel nostri donated twenty dollars

07:38:41.560 seema looks like a chipmunk hiding some nuts in her cheeks for winter don't worry sweetie you can take

07:38:47.800 just the tip what the fuck she's like i'm still trying to eat this she's just still chewing she's

07:38:56.600 still working on it work it it's like in the zone right now uh let's see i'm trying to find a squirrel

07:39:05.800 a chipmunk i know okay we don't need to pull that up uh okay final call on the tt oh uh do we need a

07:39:13.640 yo david good to see you in the chat man appreciate it appreciate it uh someone champagne

07:39:19.640 popped that burrito it's still in the fridge i'll give you guys two minutes before we uh

07:39:23.320 wrap up if anybody wants to pop the champagne bottle for uh i'll eat the burrito on stream

07:39:29.640 clark weiser donated twenty dollars brian won't come to christ as he likes to eat snickers bars

07:39:35.960 upside down once he finishes his burrito that's rude man that's that's crazy how dare you how dare you

07:39:42.360 sir all right uh cool uh we're gonna do a was there something else we had to pull up we did the discord

07:39:55.560 i don't think so okay uh twitch who are we gonna rate on twitch let's see who's still streaming

07:40:02.200 we any final thoughts from anybody while uh as we're gonna wrap up here

07:40:05.560 if you're a veteran check out weed for warriors all right there's the plug anybody else i just

07:40:14.440 want to say thank you to brian for having me on i know there was a little bit of a

07:40:21.880 you know yeah you know so i do you know i just want to apologize it was a little hectic well thank

07:40:27.560 you for the apology i appreciate i really appreciate being here it's a great opportunity i like it's just

07:40:33.160 i appreciate it and it was really awesome um just the experience and everything it was really fun and

07:40:38.680 thank you yeah yeah thanks you guys thank you for coming appreciate it okay uh we are gonna raid ampi

07:40:45.000 this poor guy i don't know if you guys probably most of you don't know this poor guy oh he just ended

07:40:50.760 the stream never mind all right ampi he said i'm out he was doing the hardcore run he was going to be

07:40:56.920 world first he got to level 54 on mage and then he got basically disconnected and died and lost on the

07:41:04.280 world first but uh okay if not for ampi then oh we're gonna raid mitch mitch who's playing uh watch me

07:41:12.280 blink we're gonna raid him uh okay if you can get that pulled up uh it's just watch me blink that's the

07:41:21.560 username yeah uh huh yeah is there you can get it pulled up

07:41:37.320 i don't want to say i've been lucky but the the two like you know closest family members for me

07:41:42.840 it's kind of fast you know i mean like yeah it didn't have to yeah no i i know i heard about like

07:41:48.600 what i heard about cassie's uh dad i was like dude that made me so sad i don't know if we yeah he

07:41:52.840 was so dope cassie's dad was fucking close man no legit like i don't know if we read i mean he's

07:41:58.200 instantly he seems it was a nice guy i don't know i just uh i think i'm gonna dm him and be like hey

07:42:07.080 can i do you think i can get this can i rate you i feel like i've been up for so long man i think you

07:42:12.600 need to find some direction you know what i mean i feel like i feel like you're pretty self-aware so i feel

07:42:17.800 like you can kind of like figure out what it is you don't like or what it is that bothers you or

07:42:23.320 like it's not one specific thing i just i just honestly one one step at a time man you know yeah

07:42:29.400 i guess should i i don't know if it's appropriate to like i don't know if i should i don't know if

07:42:34.200 it's appropriate to rate him right now i feel like he's having accepted in really any place in the world

07:42:37.880 right now i know i asked him i don't think that's true like i think i think guys don't laugh from

07:42:44.520 what i understand what's wrong with you one group that you're maybe not you guys are up hold on pause

07:42:51.080 it for you know you guys are up why you guys don't i laugh when i'm nervous

07:42:57.480 bro that's my friend man how you guys gonna i'm really upset at all of you right now

07:43:02.200 i don't know what to do we're just talking about penises and dicks and vaginas and it just got

07:43:13.000 heavy bro it just got yo mitch mitch uh i love you man um i don't know if should i chat should do i

07:43:24.040 chat what do we do do i rate him chat do we rate chat do we uh do we send him a rate i i don't know

07:43:35.880 if he needs that extra interruption although the whatever viewers are like yo mitch what's your body

07:43:41.240 cow you like you know you know what i mean isabella what do you think we should do i say you should do it

07:43:51.400 views are views all right jasmine's hubby donated 20 dollars thank you all for being nice to my

07:43:58.440 beautiful wife i love you baby can't wait to get you home all you ladies and brian have been so kind

07:44:05.320 god bless you guys he didn't account i love you you want to say something else or i can't wait to get

07:44:14.200 home to you too can't wait to see our cat

07:44:24.600 all right cool gmd jim donated 20 dollars brian i used to hold many ideas that you do

07:44:33.800 when i surrendered all things changed things will be revealed that you never thought before

07:44:39.720 you wait why are you guys laughing no peace at all times a chat what do you mean what are they

07:44:44.040 saying deport the cat

07:44:53.560 oh mitch's chat what the

07:44:57.560 bro uh let me i'm gonna see okay let me see who we can read um

07:45:02.120 great okay we're gonna raid we're gonna uh guys uh mitch is um guys send a nice send send a kind

07:45:14.520 message over to mitch um looks like he's kind of going through a little tough time there so uh guys

07:45:22.440 show him a little love show him a little support drop him like a tts show him some love man show

07:45:27.240 him some love in the chat um also tell him to come on the one the whatever i'm i'm we're dming each

07:45:34.120 other i'm trying to get them on the whatever podcast uh we were dm dming earlier today um

07:45:39.880 we're gonna try to get him on the whatever podcast great guy really cool guy um give him a little love

07:45:45.080 give him a little support go ahead pull him up and then we'll we'll send the radar if you liked it

07:45:49.720 maybe i didn't like all right man come over for thanksgiving i'll peel on the other one bro

07:45:53.800 we'll have a good time yo let me send you this roblox okay no bro don't send me anything right

07:46:06.600 now i don't care about a roblox card bro i told your youngest kid i'd get all right i'm gonna send

07:46:10.840 the raid in 10 seconds thank you oh wait hold on hold on uh wait sorry i gotta do the outro first my

07:46:17.480 bad and then we'll do the raid okay gg well played gg well played

07:46:23.960 to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight

07:46:27.560 you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you

07:46:31.000 to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we couldn't do the show without you

07:46:35.400 without your patronage so uh thank you so much everybody um your generosity is overwhelming again

07:46:43.080 we could not do the show without you guys so thank you so much uh big thank you to the wonderful

07:46:47.560 panel here it was a good show tonight it was a fun show thank you all so much for coming

07:46:51.720 we will be live again guys it's getting towards the end of the year we only have uh a few shows

07:46:58.200 left and then it's done so we will be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on

07:47:04.040 the show uh we'll be taking we'll be taking a break any girls who want to be on the show dm out whatever

07:47:08.600 on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara oh sevens in the chat thank you guys for watching on

07:47:13.400 twitch i'm gonna get this raid going if you can pull that back up thank you guys so much for watching

07:47:17.880 on which i really appreciate it i'm gonna send mitch here i'm trying to be doing like some deep

07:47:23.000 breathing and it's like it's like kind of like meditating like for a long time i was doing i'm

07:47:27.720 gonna send it now like deep breathing for bed and i kind of still do but not as like what kind of deep

07:47:31.960 breathing intense like i literally just lay down and i close my eyes and i just breathe in like

07:47:39.160 like you know and then i i hold i hold it for like six seconds i breathe out really slowly yeah yeah

07:47:44.200 because i i also like overthink a lot meditation and i think i think it's kind of like scientifically

07:47:49.480 proven that like if you slow your breath down it kind of like slows your like thought process down

07:47:53.240 a little bit and that actually was like really helpful yeah it's it's really crazy because like

07:47:57.080 when i'm overthinking i know i'm overthinking but there would be times where i'm like doing like

07:48:02.200 this breathing exercise where i'm like oh boy holy fuck like i actually my my thoughts slow down so

07:48:08.920 much that i i i i could think about it you just you know what i mean they did i left it i i wrote it

07:48:14.200 oh my god you just breathe in like just normal like you breathe in you fill your chest with air

07:48:19.480 and then you hold it and then okay hide that oh my god

07:48:30.680 anyways uh okay that was like a uh not the best moment to send a raid but um

07:48:39.720 no regrets

07:48:43.000 all right there you go all right there's a couple tts's that came through so

07:48:48.920 jessic's hubby donated twenty dollars i love you baby can't wait to lick the

07:48:54.120 cool amount of you that you got pumped into you while you were out fighting with your friends

07:48:58.920 wow damn dude what the fuck chill out man come on that's crazy man

07:49:04.440 big sass energy donated twenty dollars this justin from donald trump jasmine can stay

07:49:14.040 oh you got a fan

07:49:18.360 all right

07:49:18.840 daniel nosseri donated twenty dollars tina finally swallowed it congratulations

07:49:27.480 good job wait you gotta do the other half

07:49:31.640 next time i can't wrap the show until you do the other half

07:49:34.760 huh yeah as soon as you do the other half we're the show's over

07:49:40.360 just like let's

07:49:45.080 okay okay man

07:49:47.880 okay man

07:49:48.600 all right guys like the video like the video for cena like the video for cena she's a trooper she's

07:49:59.080 a trooper all right um i think that's that's everything one sec guys let me just double check everything

07:50:05.240 okay we're all good

07:50:13.400 all right

07:50:16.920 cool that's it okay guys uh oh sevens in the chat i hope you guys have a great night we'll see you guys

07:50:23.160 on sunday good night guys make america great again

07:50:35.240 um

07:50:56.040 so

Whatever Podcast - November 27, 2024

DEMON Satanic E-GIRL w⧸ 300+ Body Count (4 In 24 Hours)？! She Did WHAT In A GRAVEYARD？! ｜ Dating Talk #216

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