HEATED DEBATE With California Boss Babe Feminists？! Andrew Wilson! Goth Dating？! ｜ Dating Talk #215
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we introduce ourselves and talk about our experiences with dating in the modern dating hellscape. We also introduce our first guest, and discuss our experience with online dating. We hope you enjoy this episode and stay tuned for the full series!
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with dating um and uh yeah disclaimer the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect
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the views of the whatever channel with that said and without further ado we're going to have
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the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead
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hi i'm gianna i'm from los angeles i'm 18 and i'm a model all right uh any school you go to school
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at all or i study psychology at uh a university city college online right now okay all right what about
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you and well hang on uh what kind of model um i do runway runway yes
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hi i'm sina i'm 18 my occupation i do only fans and i'm in school for engineering
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all right welcome back and you're from where again canada canada what province or whatever
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montreal or ontario do they speak speak french there you're taught french yeah okay got it
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what about you um my name's lexi i'm from california and i'm a student at ucsb and i'm 18
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all right what are you studying at ucsb bio bio you want to be a doctor a pa
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physician assistant okay got it what about you hi um i am pos i am 21 i currently work at a dental office
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not taking courses in school at the moment but i will be back next semester
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what were you studying um i was studying math and architectural engineering
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sorry guys oh how long has the audio issues been bad man
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you gotta you gotta be keeping an eye on that you would have guys has it been bad since the uh
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has the audio been bad since the beginning right side oh i know what's going on okay hold on guys
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give me just a sec uh tiffany won't you like uh do a dance or some is it only it's only that one
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camera i'll get it fixed tiffany do like a dance or like a a irish jig or something
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do you like disco i don't know we can do the macarena
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there's a lot there's a lot of writing on you right now tiffany
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like we're counting on you keep the show going ryan fixes his problem
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somebody forgot to silence the phone too good job
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i don't know i still have to do like the whole left
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yeah from the viewer's perspective you're on the right
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and then brian's side of the table would be the left side
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uh okay we're doing a quick test was it on this angle here
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i think all these are pretty good dancers actually
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no uh i i think there's no dancing happening here
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yeah but shouldn't i learn how to do it before i try to do it
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oh well i mean i'll tell you what that sounds like a good idea
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how about you go ahead and show me and then i'll know
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one in the one in the chat if it's better it should be
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like were you chat were you guys able to hear the intros
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one in the chat uh that's not going to make any sense
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i live down in korea so i actually am only here temporarily
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um and then i'm a model and dancer but i studied psychology when i was in
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to put it politely my mom had lovers so we moved a lot
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like what about vietnam or like cambodia also any other like asian countries or
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okay but like where did uh i guess when you grew up where it was it like california or
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um no um i grew up partially between missouri and then um the czech republic
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okay and you said your mom uh dated a lot or can you clarify what you mean by that
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um she is 42 and is on her fifth husband and that is basically what that is
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if she's in florida how'd you end up in korea though
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um i moved out of my family's home when i was about 14 because i graduated high school at the age of 14 and went to university
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i wanted to move there so i got up and i moved there
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um i've always been fascinated with the culture
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um my grandpa was stationed there for a while when he was in the military
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and he always told me stories so i really liked it
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and then in between the husbands she was like dating
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and uh debates of all types across the internet
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and uh welcome all of you to the whatever studio
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what is everybody's current relationship status
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and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in
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longest relationship four years you've been single for
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uh how old were you when i mean so you were like 14 when you guys broke up
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you just said you've been single for a few years
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and you said you've been single for a few years
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the four-year relationship ended a few months ago
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okay so it was consistent for the four-year period
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uh so the one that most recently ended who broke up with who
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and then the two-year relationship who broke up with who
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he was still in high school and we just got into long distance
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like i've made friends and i hang out with people
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uh i wouldn't say that just like oh do you want to go here and like like going to parties and stuff and just hanging out
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a romantic interest an underlying romantic interest in
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i'd say there could be but i'm still pretty fresh off a breakup so not
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i was gonna say that's so sweet because you meant like genuine friends i was like friends you do you mean like friends with benefits
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yeah what do you mean like friends with benefits it's okay
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um i mean i've been dating my longest relationship was two years
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um i've never been broken up with that ended because we got to the point where he wanted an open relationship but it was just like one-sided
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so i don't know no go for me it's 50 50 for doing that
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yeah and so you were kind of uh last time you were on the show you were talking about how you were
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uh like in this sort of long-term complicated situationship
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that's what i'm thinking i'm kind of like suspicious about that
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i've had a lot of people that i know watched my last one
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um including my dad so if you're seeing this hi dad
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i was just like on on top of him and he just was staring at me and i was like what
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not even like in a sexual way but i was just like on top of him
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and um he was just like staring at me i asked him like what's up
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i froze i didn't say anything for maybe five minutes
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like the net what's the next term going to be like all that queef
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yeah the old term is all that jazz not all that jizz
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young i don't need a break we we heal fast what
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it's called ehlers-danlos syndrome it's pretty rare i'd say
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what's called ehlers-danlos syndrome e-h-l-e-r-s-d-a-n-l-o-s syndrome
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oh it's a connective at first it was thought to be a bone disorder or a joint disorder but
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it's been rediscovered as and reclassified as a full body genetic disorder um mostly affecting
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your connective tissue but your whole body is connective tissue so
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um part of it's fun i'm really naturally flexible so i can dislocate my bones in and out of place at
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will for the most part um but we also get injured really easily
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um i'm actually blind in my left eye and that's because of the disorder as well
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and uh i see here online that your skin can be like stretchy
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uh yeah we can stretch our skin kind of like damn that's kind of wild okay um but we also it's
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because we have thin skin also the doctors call it velvet skin some people think it's nice because
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we have soft skin but it's because our skin is very very thin so any cut looks 10 times worse any
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bruise looks 10 times worse yeah damn good times okay and uh oh we got a chat here from uh on this
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topic ogle oh that's weird shout out to those with eds it sucks i have it too and i can tell you as
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you get older you're gonna get really effing achy vision issues get worse etc yes i'm not sure why
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it didn't come in as a tts ogle my apologies off to check on that what what would any of that have to
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do with i mean isn't eds a rectile disorder is that what that is what is it no that's ed
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what's that ed is erectile dysfunction eds is ehlers-danlos syndrome yeah different uh yeah
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there's an extra letter there if you want to read that all right we have cole here again sorry guys
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i don't know why these just came in but i don't know why the tts isn't triggering i'll have to check
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on that yo brian check your dms i've lost 360 pounds no surgery no drugs just hard work and
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dedication i sent you some recent before and after pictures ask the girls how they feel about
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all the loose skin okay i guess going around the table would you date a guy who is currently fit but
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he used to be a big dude and he's got some loose skin but he's fit he's fit he's not fat but he's got
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loose skin of course i mean personalities what matters not sure go ahead what about you what do
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you mean by like loose skin but he's fit like have you ever seen somebody who used to be like obese and
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then they lost all the weight and their body fat percentage is normal now but because they were so
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big the skin is super loose like hangs i can't i can't pull up a picture but robert tanner thanks for
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the gifted 20 memberships i appreciate it yes okay what about you i think it depends but um overall
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that's really great i think it would also depend like how much like flap are we talking about you
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know uh well he was 360 pounds so that's fairly obese so there's probably going to be substantial
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okay like tummy tuck stuff yeah similar yeah um i don't think i would and it's not necessarily
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because of the loose skin it's more so about like them having been big before i would be scared that
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they would get big again and i i i can't i don't i won't uh it's not really about the fact that they
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are obese it's that i live a very active lifestyle and if you are as active as me you are not going to
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be that heavy set so i want someone who suits my lifestyle i would um like i mean just like you said
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like personality is what matters the most and i really appreciate like the dedication the person has
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for you know working on themselves and working out and trying to balance out their health yeah i would
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um i would um i think it just depends though like you said how much loose skin is there i i would not
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because i mean i'm all about making yourself better but if you've been that size that means you have the
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fat gene and i want my kids to be skinny that's a genetic thing it can be you can be naturally
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can you imagine yourself being 360 pounds no it's a genetic thing
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okay that's not just like how maybe you were like raised yeah it can be multiple factors but
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some people are naturally prone to being very heavy set that's why you see a lot of families being all
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big there's lots of families that everyone in the family is very big and it's not necessarily even
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because they eat a lot i know plenty of people who are very big who don't really eat a lot and they
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do exercise but they're just naturally heavy are you is it like because of a slow metabolism um thyroid
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issues sometimes is a big issue with it yeah did we get everybody's answer for the
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loose skin one okay all right and uh let's see here we were okay pause you had your whole
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boot thing uh let's see um oh really quick for you you so you've been living in you were in korea right
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yes how long were you live or how long have you lived there total um i visited there as a kid
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but i didn't live there as a kid so four months in total of actually living there not just visiting
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okay uh do you speak korean i'm still learning um i can understand it spoken to me for the most part
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but i can't speak it myself because i get too nervous okay so we could we can't get like a demo
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right now or maybe you and tiffany can exchange a couple no okay all right what's your favorite
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part of korea um so i lived down in unpyong and um but i'd have to say my favorite part is
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wait where is that um just upwards of hongdae like i think 35 40 minutes upwards uh pretty close to
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sinchon and it's a very more like rural area most of the people are a lot older it's right next to
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this historical um like traditional village yeah yeah so it's really pretty i'd have to say that
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where i live is my favorite place all right i'm gonna get through everybody's pre-show notes here
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and then we're gonna get into some of the uh questionnaire stuff so let's see um tiffany
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actually i guess related to the korean thing tiffany previous on previous shows you said that
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you should date within your culture and nationality given that uh chloe over there is uh
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dating uh somebody in korea do you have any objections to her not dating within her nationality
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and culture i mean it's not preferable but you can do what you want i think korea should be
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maintained korea at the same time korean and korea has the lowest birth rate ever also and so koreans
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aren't being with koreans also um also i have over 10 siblings i have 11 biological siblings 23 siblings
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in total and they're all by different white guys i have every breed of white guy in my family every
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white person for the most part looks like one of my siblings i cannot do it you wait you can't do what
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i can't date someone who looks like one of my siblings so you don't want to date anyone who's
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white there are exceptions but almost every white guy i meet looks like one of my siblings yes wait
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i've heard this from asian women they're like oh i couldn't date an asian guy because
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he looks like my brother for all but i don't understand i don't really get three siblings though
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it's she's an exception no it's not an exception she has 23 siblings i i just don't um
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i don't get that but okay so wait you can't date a white guy because your siblings are white
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i could with very few exceptions if they did not look like one of my siblings the odds though of
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me finding one that does not look at all like any of my siblings is very slim because they're all
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with different guys i don't get this phenomenon because like okay if you think of throughout
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like if you're having sex hold on let me finish if you're if you look at like the vast uh the vast
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history of humanity um you're like if you had an unwillingness to procreate with your own race
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your genes would just be wiped out because historically most people did not get exposed to
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other races like all your dating prospects everybody looks like your brother like wherever you lived like
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most people probably didn't go further than like five miles from wherever the fuck they lived this
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is like a you know modern travel is fairly a recent thing but so i don't that's just look it's i get i
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well i don't get it but like when i hear asian women say i couldn't date an asian guy it's like
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and what do you mean uh that you have did you say 23 siblings yes my mom gave birth to 11 of them
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but because of all the marriages i have lots of step siblings as well yeah but at your age even if
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she had been married five times these step siblings couldn't have been in your life for very long
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they're still my siblings though yeah but they i mean you go to school with people who are white for
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instance right you probably have more interpersonal relationship with many of them than you did with
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your step siblings if you had such a limited time frame right where i lived as a kid and grew up at
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the area was mostly african-american um so my family was one of like three or four families in
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the area that were white um we lived down in jennings missouri um so it's that area is predominantly
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african-american and the school was mostly that as well so that doesn't really apply in this case
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yeah i mean it would still apply right so the the idea here is even if uh predominantly the culture
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is dominated by uh you know black people instead of white people you still have tons and tons of
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interaction with white people right but the idea that you've formed interpersonal bonds in such a
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limited amount of time with step siblings seems kind of silly right i mean the whole gist of it is at
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the end of the day they are your siblings whether they're blood related or not i think because i even
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grew up with adopted siblings too blood to me is not really a factor as soon as someone is in my family
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they are in my family and it's they have always been my sibling that is my sibling so then by this
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logic if you have this many siblings and they let's say marry black people and asian people and every
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different race in between and they all start having children does this mean that you won't date at all
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because some of your people who you're genetically related to happen to be the very race that you
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would be then forced to date that is also in the future i would already be with my partner i'm one of
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the oldest of my siblings so the likelihood of the three-year-old getting married and having a child
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before me is probably not likely well you can't be wait you can't be the oldest of 11 if the
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next one line is three hang on if the next in the line is three the oldest of the ones that i am
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related to is 24 the oldest of all of them in total is i believe 27 so no then if you have a 24 year old
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they could easily uh you know marry off or and and create relations with i mean by the in other
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words by the time you're of marriageable age multiple of your siblings could date outside of
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the race have children then you'd have nieces and nephews who are a different race then you just
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wouldn't date then because you would consider them to be genetically related my older siblings
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um there's only three or four of them i don't even know what one of them looks like to be honest
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um never met them in my life um what the one guy is already married to this other white girl
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my older sister is not being with anytime anytime soon she has the mental capacity of someone much
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younger than her age um and then my older brother has no interest in anything like that so yeah but
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there isn't that i mean don't you have like nine more to go right the one after that everyone
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after that is still like 13 no no that that would be a mathematical impossibility that everybody after
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that was like 13 right no because they're step siblings too yes i understand but even then it
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would still be mathematically impossible that all of them were like 13 i just want to let you know you
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may not be aware of this but if you were pregnant 11 times that would require 11 years of your life
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therefore you can't have like you know 11 kids or nine kids or eight kids or seven kids who are like
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13 that makes like you forgot about multiples as in twins and triplets oh you say you wait so now you
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have a ton of twins and triplets i said siblings i didn't specify whether they were all born at the
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same time or not and some of them are adopted so how many twins and triplets do you have
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two sets of two so that would be four out of the 11 yes yeah so they still couldn't all be like you
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know 13 right that still wouldn't make any sense if there are four people if there are four people older
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than me that's four yeah and then there is my one brother who is my age well not my age a year younger
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than me he is married to this white girl um he's just turned 19 um the one after that um he is 14
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so aiden logan's 14 then cassidy is 13 um and then um there's avery he's even younger there's why am i
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counting like that there's um karina connell avalon cordelia um and then kieran i don't know how that
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any that is um but i and then there's some that i haven't even met so i mean if you haven't met
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those people then why would it poison the well for your dating preferences if you haven't even met them
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they're still my siblings yeah but but how do you even know what they look like to draw a comparison
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i guess the simplest way to sum it up is imagine you are having sex with someone and you look at
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them and you see your sibling that's weird that's uncomfortable like i don't know anyone who would
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find that an enjoyable experience yeah but but if they're if if your extended family were to marry
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out including your step siblings to other races then wouldn't you see then like your nieces and
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nephews in the faces of those people you were dating i think the only way this works is because
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i'm not close with most of my family so i'm not going to get to meet their kids i'm not going to
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get to know that you're not close to them but for some reason they inform your dating preferences
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that's super weird i mean many people have toxic relationships with their family and they don't
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talk to their family anymore but that's made them who they are so a lot of who they are is based off of
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them yeah but this is a this is literally the first time i've ever heard somebody say that their dating
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preferences are informed by the fact that they might see a brother's face they have never met in the face
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of the person they're dating that's bizarre i hear it all the time so i don't really know okay
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all good all right okay uh we were going were we going around on the question there or
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do you date do you date asian guys yes asian guys the guy you're seeing is he uh asian guy or
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white guy okay tiffany i would get an asian guy okay my boyfriend's not asian current boyfriend's
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white yeah okay got it uh let's get into the rest of the notes here i think we were talking about
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what were we on before we got into that well we do have ogle once again let me see if this works
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there we go that should be fine ogle donated 200 tell me if the audio is okay we're related by our
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eds so i have one percent lenience but my sister you must stop the cap was there an echo on that or
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was that okay chat chat was there echo or no echo um thank you ogle uh response to ogle i guess
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there's a lot that was said so what part is the cap i mean i feel like there was too much said that
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was you can just state an overall blanket statement rock and roll all right we're gonna get back into
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the pre-show notes while we go to lexi here lexi you've been in two long-term relationships um you
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were being with two you say being with two different guys for that long i feel like you have a good idea
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on how guys view relationships and get comfortable during long term uh with that also the tactics or
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things as they say to keep you there which are what um i just feel like if there's multiple points
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in a relationship where things get kind of rocky and stuff um not necessarily guilt tripping but always
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just reflecting back on the memories and kind of just like oh but like we've made it this far and if
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like we're supposed to be together then we have to get through this too and like in the moment in
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the time it it makes sense and you're like yeah if i do like if you are my future then i am gonna have
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to we're gonna have to understand each other here but then again it's you can only understand and
01:12:41.320
understand so much until you just have to realize really quick robert it is below the threshold but i will
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just uh just a reminder it's a hundred and for a read uh really quick just by show hands though um
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does anybody here have a mental health diagnosis from robert tanner show of hands any mental health
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diagnosis cena what you got gina gianna excuse me my bad what you got gianna um no i haven't i haven't
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i have insomnia insomnia okay cena what you got i didn't raise my schizo lexi bpd bipolar what you
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got pos what you got nothing sex uh well uh you sex addiction you've been diagnosed as a sex addict
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okay chloe what about you adhd adhd ellen um psychopath i feel like no i have asthma asthma that's valid
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she's got asthma don't um you have an inhaler i do have an inhaler can you take a hit right now
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of your inhaler i don't it's exercise induced asthma what happens if you take a hit of an
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inhaler when you're not actually having an asthma attack you can cause problems is it it's it's not
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good i don't know why you would do that but i only took it like i used to be a competitive swimmer so i
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don't i don't need like backstroke or i'm also breaststroker breast breast it's like the frog
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one the frog one yeah do you think anybody's ever abused an inhaler i was asked if i wanted to hit
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someone's inhaler when it was actually like two nights ago what it's not psychoactive right i don't
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know inhaler i think it was like a joke because he like offered me um his vape and then he offered
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me his pen and then he offered me his inhaler this guy vapes and has asthma yeah it seems like a bad
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combination do you vape ellen no i don't are you a vapor no okay um can does it can you abuse
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an inhaler though i don't know yeah for sure of course you can but like does it get you
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it doesn't get you high no i don't know maybe it was placebo i used to steal i used to steal my
01:14:57.760
brother's inhaler when we were kids um because i don't know you used to steal inhalers no i didn't
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steal inhalers i would like sneak my brother's inhaler when we were children because so i thought
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i was doing something i don't know okay um mental health diagnosis just adhd adhd what about you
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anything over here mental health bpd bpd borderline borderline personality disorder all right tiffany
01:15:27.720
what about you besides that one thing um nothing okay all right uh let's see thank you robert tanner
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for that really appreciate it man thank you thank you uh we have techno trooper one sec guys getting
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this pulled up sorry for the delay here uh he says techno trooper donated two hundred dollars
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ladies who is the oldest you would marry for an age gap okay uh answer first yeah tell us uh just
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remind us your age and then the oldest i guess you would date or marry go ahead that i would date or
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that like i think is a good in general uh that you would date okay i'm 18 um my parents are 10 years
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apart so i already think 10 years is pretty normal um and i would date up to like 40 or 50
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so 40 or 50 yeah okay so that's like what is that like 30 years age gap about yeah because you're 18 so
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yeah okay all right cena what about you 10 years 10 years okay all right what about you right now i would
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say four or five but if i'm in my 30s and like there's a bigger age gap like 20 my grandparents
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are 19 years apart but they met later in life are you planning to be single in your 30s i mean
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what's the plan what's the plan lexi i don't know okay uh pos what about you age gap uh well i'm 21
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um i think max maybe like 45 like early 40s okay all right chloe what about you i'm 20 i've always
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been very firm on the five-year rule so no one older than five years of me at any given time
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all right sure uh what about you ellen i'm 18 right now like for dating at this age maybe a couple years
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older than me but then later in life like lexi said like my 30s then i'd be more open to like
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10 to 15 years older than me so if you're 30 you would date a guy up to 45 yeah okay what about you
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um i'm 23 so maybe 33 right now but 10 years okay sure what about you um i'm 26 um i don't really
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care honestly like maybe you'll date 70 yeah like 50 60 all right okay tiffany i'm 19 so maybe
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28 and 29 is kind of pushing it all right we have verne tang tangway i had a friend who kept pushing
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sex i inevitably gave in although i wanted to just be friends can men be s8 if they're on top love the
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show you had a friend who kept pushing sex you inevitably gave in although i wanted and you
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were on top huh well uh can i think that's just like pure how would you get on top how would you get
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on top uh i don't think it's that i don't think that's sa you consented i right did you consent
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if you consented it's uh even if you maybe regretted it that's not sa but uh uh even if they're on top
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like but like how would like how would you non-consensually get on top like i could maybe
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see it like you're you're laying down as the guy and it could happen what if you were like
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nobody put on the person well you got all kinds of crazy crazy different angles and shit but what
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what what is it like what if um someone just like places you on top how strong is she i don't know
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like i think we need to like like she's an mma fighter and she's like get over here and she
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we need more detail i think i don't know that's um verne tangway thank you for that um she's maybe
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she has a gun oh well fucking get on top bitch some people find that kinky that's crazy dude
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that's wild i'm sorry to hear that verne that you um i'm sorry to hear man i'm sorry to hear was she
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how did you get never mind okay that's crazy um
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where were we we're talking to lexi right yeah uh and then a couple things came in uh the tactics
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the men say to keep you there so they've been using some tactics kind of just like things that
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like destiny and using like god and stuff yeah god meant us to be together yeah all right so you
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have a cross is are you christian catholic you're catholic okay yeah um okay hmm were they religious
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yeah oh okay uh well next thing you said run one rule you're always going to implement from now on
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is a two-strike rule and that's basically just that you will give a person one more chance
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if you find out that they lie to you and if they do it again it's an automatic cutoff
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yeah um do you have people in the graveyard like her over here i mean pretty much i guess um i really
01:21:07.760
have a big thing with like lying and trust because i mean i feel like if you've been lied to once why
01:21:13.740
can't they just do it again and that did happen and then it's just like okay i found this out and
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then of course forgive and forget and then it just keeps coming up and coming up okay um and then you
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said uh hold on you there's a rule in your household do you mean like with amongst your
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friend group or no just like um my mom has always said like no breakup and makeup game she thinks like
01:21:43.120
you know that can lead to a lot of toxicness on and off again yeah yeah so that's always been
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something that's like yeah if we're like done done done then it's over yeah okay i tend to agree
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with you on this because you can have disagreements and you can work through disagreements and stuff
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but like once even even if a breakup has been teased i think like it's because people will
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sometimes use that they don't actually they're not actually genuinely breaking up with you they're
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using it as leverage to get you to behave in a certain way i think you can instead of doing that
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you can just have a conversation about what you want changed in the relationship if there is an
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issue but when people do this thing like okay well we're gonna break up yeah it's kind of like
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okay yeah you want to break up it's over then yeah like there is no yeah you know just like calling
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bluff yeah like it's a bluff a lot of time it's a bluff and then it's just like well
01:22:40.460
let's just have a conversation about the actual issue instead of just like
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just doing the breakup you know so yeah okay uh and then uh you said why you should not tell a girl
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thing she wants to hear and how it sets her up for disappointment uh did you want to expand on that
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yeah so basically if you have a girlfriend and you just keep telling her everything she wants to hear
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and promises and eventually it it just it it's a bad idea in the end because you just set up these like
01:23:15.200
false expectations and me personally i have like i don't know i kind of really really dislike being
01:23:22.860
let down and disappointed so it just keeps happening and happening like be honest if something did happen
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just be honest about it because if i find out you lied about it then it's even worse or if you keep
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saying you're gonna do things and you don't just don't bring it up there's like there's no reason
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okay all right uh we're gonna before we we're gonna skip ahead to the questionnaire stuff but
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before we do while we go to hmm who do we go to
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hmm while we go to chloe here uh you moved away for a man you'd only known for a month
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um yes so we met when i was living down in hawaii and um he kind of made it seem like down where
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hawaii hawaii why the hell are you saying it like that because people in hawaii you're supposed to
01:24:24.340
pronounce it hawaii that is true yeah didn't a comedian make a joke about the w in the hawaiian
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language is a v kind of kawaii hawaii oh anybody see that thing in new zealand with like in the
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parliament with the she does the haka and they rip up the thing for equality it's like when obama says
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pakistan you know what i mean when obama would go in pakistan and i'd be like what the hell just
01:24:51.800
just saying how everybody says it somebody in the chat called me a weeb because i said kawaii
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that's literally one of the hawaiian islands but whatever okay um okay so anyways what's the story
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um he made it seem like he lived there i even like went over to quote unquote his house turns out it was
01:25:13.100
his friend's house i found that on later on um but when i start seeing someone i get very very attached
01:25:20.220
very very quickly um so in my head i was like well i'm in too deep once i realized he was going back
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to arkansas um he gave me like a one week notice if even that and so i decided you know i really like
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this guy i'm not doing much here right now i'm always moving around anyway let me move to arkansas
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for this dude um only then towards the end of it it was a one year relationship um turns out he was
01:25:50.860
cheating on me the entire time even while i was working on moving down there and he looked me in
01:25:56.600
my eyes at the end of it and told me that he knew he was letting me ruin my life um there is a distinct
01:26:03.920
message i remember i went through his snapchat um and he there was a message from i think near the
01:26:10.940
beginning of a relationship he had with this girl um about her asking oh well do like do you like
01:26:16.400
her like what's going on with your relationship and he said it's not that i don't like her but there's
01:26:34.560
nice good times yes so wait you met him in hawaii yes you flew out there or wait you met him
01:26:46.180
online or i met him in hawaii we had a mutual group of friends okay but then you came back
01:26:52.500
yes i moved to arkansas no no wait you were you stayed in hawaii i stayed in hawaii and then you
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moved he moved to arkansas he went back to arkansas he was um honduran okay just checking
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okay wait he was a honduran living in hawaii he wasn't living in hawaii he made me think he was
01:27:13.860
living in hawaii but he was in hawaii he was visiting hawaii he was visiting hawaii okay that's cool
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uh and then arkansas that's a downgrade yes that's a massive downgrade i'm never going back
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to arkansas okay that's cool and then um you've done that for other men too maybe what about this
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current korean man um i did not move for anyone else after that i decided i'm never moving for
01:27:35.920
anyone else um i met my current partner in korea when i was living down there um i actually included
01:27:43.440
it kind of in yeah you said a pretty funny story tell us the story yeah so i was actually we met at
01:27:50.160
a pub um i was out with this other guy though um it wasn't explicitly a date um but more or less it
01:27:59.800
was a date we didn't exclusively call it a date though um but i later found out he he kind of thought
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of it as that um anyway we're hanging out we're not really talking at all i guess the guy's like shy
01:28:12.380
or something and my friend's djing he's playing a careless whisper like a dj remix of it um and i go
01:28:22.500
to talk to my friend and he my current boyfriend i guess goes up to the guy who's who um i was hanging
01:28:31.320
out with that night and starts asking him like if it's okay for him to hang out with us if he's
01:28:36.300
dating me or something like that and then he just basically like swoops in and hangs out with us
01:28:43.320
the whole night and kind of just it it made my the other person uncomfortable um to be fair but the
01:28:50.780
other person actually wound up texting me throughout the hanging out like oh you guys seem to be getting
01:28:54.240
along do you want me to just leave yikes oh my god that's that's hilarious but so basically it's
01:29:02.860
just funny because i think it's just funny when someone's so bold to just go up to two people
01:29:07.700
especially like opposite gender they're out together there's no one else and you just what
01:29:12.400
you go up to them and like you're like oh by the way is she taken can i basically have a shot at her
01:29:17.900
and i just said that or that's the underlying that's the underlying yeah he asked if me and
01:29:24.040
that other guy we're dating and if it was okay for him to hang out with us um yeah so just i'll
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summarize i guess here so you're out with another you're but you made it seem like so was it not
01:29:38.200
clear that it was a date with the guy the first guy i knew that the guy probably liked me and
01:29:47.480
we were gonna hang out it was our first time hanging out that night it was our first time meeting how did
01:29:53.000
you guys know each other um we met each other on like instagram so we had also mutual friends he
01:30:01.920
slid into your dms um no we were in a group chat okay and then he dms you privately he says what
01:30:10.120
well i'm just talking about i was gonna go out and i go out to this one place often and he also goes
01:30:15.880
there often so we just decided we were going to hang out and meet up down there and you had you guys
01:30:21.280
hung out in person no was was he like hey can i take you to dinner no we just met up at uh at the
01:30:33.060
in any case so you he a totally random dude who you'd never met he comes up to you and hits on you
01:30:44.900
he i actually have left to go talk with my friend who's djing and he comes while i'm gone to talk to
01:30:52.040
the guy i'm hanging out with oh wait he goes up to the guy yes and then you come back yeah and then
01:30:59.900
he starts talking to you yes and then does he start like edging out the dude like this is the dude this
01:31:05.860
is you to lay it out him out like get the fuck out of here kind of we're at this table there's me
01:31:12.100
and then there's the other side which the original guy is sitting at he is originally over there and
01:31:17.300
then he just kind of slowly makes his way to sitting on my side of the table and then it winds up being
01:31:23.220
a situation where just me and him are talking because we're getting along and i wasn't really
01:31:26.240
getting along with the other person so conversation just naturally flowed between us and not did he talk
01:31:32.520
to you guys in korean or english um which one were they both korean they're both korean the original
01:31:39.900
guy his name his name is jimin he's my friend now um but he doesn't speak much english so it was also
01:31:47.880
harder to communicate that was definitely one factor um but my current boyfriend yuhuan he is um
01:31:57.620
oh he's your boyfriend yes yes you've been dating him for one month yes he um he speaks fluent english
01:32:06.600
um he actually didn't grow up in korea um he's a korean citizen his parents are from there
01:32:15.320
huh interesting okay and then this other guy he was just like shy not really making but you said
01:32:23.840
you're korean's pretty poor yes okay um in any case you guys agreed to meet up although it doesn't
01:32:32.660
it sounds like he wasn't super direct about it but it was clear to you in any case that he was
01:32:39.160
romantically interested and then you spend the rest of the night talking with this other man who's more
01:32:44.580
fluent in a language that you both understand it wasn't really about how do i word this it wasn't
01:32:52.060
necessarily about fluency because there's other ways you can also try to communicate um like what
01:32:59.520
i've had tons of hangouts with my friends who don't really speak almost any english down there and we
01:33:05.340
just talk through papago okay um for those who don't know it's like a translation app um okay
01:33:15.000
uh hmm this is an interesting phenomenon i mean it's like it was kind of like a vague hangout
01:33:24.280
he was not really like carrying much of a conversation with you he kind of it sounds like invited this to
01:33:31.100
happen but that's pretty brutal bro you take a girl out on a date and like on the date essentially
01:33:37.040
she like ends up fucking another dude and like dating him well no one said anything about the
01:33:43.060
latter but oh you guys haven't had sex yet now we have oh well you didn't have sex that night but
01:33:48.700
like right the guy who like that's like uh what's that term for it that is a uh canon what's that term
01:33:57.400
that's like a canon event like you're out on a date with a girl and some dude like starts talking the
01:34:02.680
girl that you're out on a date with and then like oh she's my girlfriend now peace out dude wait how
01:34:08.820
is that a canon event did that happen to you no that that has not happened to me uh to my knowledge
01:34:15.380
if i recall but like that's got to be a canon event for that dude like
01:34:20.660
i don't know i think he's the kind of person who just wants a relationship and it doesn't matter who
01:34:28.420
with because even though we didn't talk that night like basically at all it was our first time ever
01:34:34.520
meeting he texted me the next day being like i think i'm in love with you and but we had like
01:34:40.340
zero conversation with each other oh it's even worse now he's in love with you but he's not but he
01:34:46.500
said it he said he was and then you did you go home with that other guy like did you leave the bar
01:34:52.560
with i'm not saying you had sex with him did you leave the bar or whatever with that guy
01:34:56.620
he so he actually left not so the the guy the original guy he left early so he left us to keep
01:35:04.140
hanging out the rest of that night what did he say when he left he was like oh it seems like you guys
01:35:07.960
are getting along he actually lives pretty far away from that exact area so he had to take a taxi back
01:35:14.140
home because he was also kind of a little drunk i i don't know probably like an hour damn that's like
01:35:21.240
an hour long taxi ride to just contemplate like how some other guy just swooped in and
01:35:26.120
mr steal your girl bro okay that's crazy good times um and then you ended up leaving with the dude
01:35:33.860
yes you went back to his place yeah did you guys no we actually stayed up all night i think
01:35:40.560
and we got back and talked about deep feelings and shit we got back probably like maybe 2 a.m
01:35:47.680
2 to 3 a.m to his place yes cuddle we actually stayed up all night just literally talking about
01:35:53.900
life and like stuff like that so it was actually really romantic
01:35:58.140
wow that's so terrible for that other guy who's watching this now i've been yeah so the next day
01:36:09.080
after that one hour taxi cab ride back he texts you i love you yeah damn that's that's a but we had
01:36:19.840
no conversations between each other so no you don't he might have liked how i looked but he didn't love
01:36:25.000
me so he was in love he was in love with wanting to be in love is how i what does that i don't even
01:36:32.320
know what that means but he just wants to date somebody it doesn't matter i think he's gay
01:36:36.500
you think so yeah why do you think he's gay tiffany because men don't like love they don't love love
01:36:46.660
that that guy you're talking about sounds like he loves
01:36:50.540
i guess the way to put it would be men aren't really into romance and stuff like that women are
01:36:58.000
i don't know i feel like men are too and he let that guy steal you from him why didn't he man up
01:37:08.060
he's shy he's like passive he's an introvert okay well now i have a question for avi because we
01:37:15.400
actually had a similar moment where i tried hooking her up with someone and then i actually ended up
01:37:20.900
dating him so you stole like so what happened i feel like this happened multiple times we just
01:37:31.360
saw him what the fuck wait she stole multiple dudes from you i mean but that i hooked her up
01:37:36.700
boy she's like oh i think that you should like hang out with this guy and she'll set me up but then
01:37:41.620
but then she fucks him first bro fucking goblin what the fuck you're you're dude this is your friend
01:37:49.620
here no remorse i have no words no regret okay um so how many men has this happened to like maybe
01:38:00.820
three three dudes three so she's posses like wait she's trying to set you up with them like she hasn't
01:38:07.260
hooked up with them yet no i and then she's like oh you should hang out with this dude no it's more
01:38:12.720
like oh you should hang out and then i mean i don't really live close to her so it just nothing
01:38:17.800
nothing ever really ends up happening and then later on she just i don't know hangs out with
01:38:22.080
them that's it it's more like people i've like hooked up with and i'm just like actually i'm just
01:38:27.880
gonna maybe toss you to someone else oh you've already smashed yeah and then you're like
01:38:34.780
had my fun you can have my my sloppy seconds or whatever no it's just like i don't like my friends
01:38:45.680
like third wheeling while we're like hanging out so i'm always trying to like make the groups even
01:38:49.940
even if it's just like not like to date or like even to hook up you know just odd numbers are always
01:38:56.220
like really awkward how do you feel about this i don't mind i mean i feel like whenever anyone sets
01:39:03.760
me up i just i don't like it like it just kind of puts a pressure on things so i mean i'll talk to
01:39:09.820
them i'll be friendly but it's not like i'm like oh like she stole them or i have like a weird
01:39:14.620
complex about it okay we've been like this close to being like eskimo twins wow interesting okay
01:39:23.820
all right um here i'm gonna let a couple chats go through uh techno trooper who do you think has
01:39:29.180
done more harm to society mark zuckerberg or tim stokely and why i don't does anybody here know
01:39:35.160
who tim stokely is no all right um who the i tim stokely
01:39:41.840
british businessman oh they uh he founded only fans he started only fans so okay who's done more
01:39:51.980
damage to society uh mark zuckerberg founder of facebook and you know there's instagram whatever
01:39:58.020
or all he owns instagram through meta and uh or the creator of only fans
01:40:04.520
the zuck or of guy i'm not sure because i don't know much about mark zuckerberg
01:40:12.420
either i don't know much about facebook no instagram well they bought instagram but
01:40:20.020
okay i guess um okay how about this which one has done more damage to society facebook and
01:40:27.780
instagram okay or only fans only fans okay and not in a bad way i'm just saying wait it made more of
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an impact no damn done more harm okay so in a bad way facebook and instagram or only fans
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um i don't know pick one i would say only fans maybe okay facebook okay only fans i would say facebook
01:40:56.960
facebook how about facebook that encompasses instagram too which one i feel like like both
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i don't know in different ways okay i'd say facebook into the mic into the mic sorry i'd say
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facebook and instagram okay tiffany probably only fans hmm andrew what do you think
01:41:23.920
you could say you could so here's how i would think of it i think that you could make an argument
01:41:31.880
that facebook has been completely co-opted by the government in order to curtail speech
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do tracking do data mining and all sorts of horrible things
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but you can also make the argument that a lot of good comes from it
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um people can communicate with each other at lightning speed especially when it was
01:41:50.520
early on it was kind of a marketplace for ideas uh only fans doesn't produce anything which is good
01:41:55.720
it basically produces nothing like one one or two percent of its content which is not
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nude related or whatever it is or the small percentage is not nude nude related it produces nothing good
01:42:06.200
we have uh two only fans girls here at the table do you guys want to
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i'd say yeah so i don't think only fans made like a worse just because people are going to that to
01:42:23.940
like they have to pay to see anything most of the time like so they're wanting to see that
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on facebook it's just open like you can open up your facebook and see anything
01:42:34.400
you know that you don't want to see it's well no i mean you can't right like you can't see nudes on
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facebook and yeah you can't they have moderate well they have moderation policies there right where
01:42:45.560
they remove that stuff don't they yeah but you can still see it andrew let me uh wasn't there a
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story in like for the 2020 election that facebook stifled a pretty big story like right before the
01:42:57.820
election yeah it was it was it the hunter biden zuckerberg admitted to the entire scheme and said
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that they were co-opted by the federal government and that they weren't going to allow it in this
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next election cycle and that they didn't want to work with the feds anymore in policing speech on the
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platform but that was too little too late but still while i concede that zuckerberg has done many
01:43:18.600
many bad things with facebook and that it's been a data mining kind of uh plethora and lots of bad
01:43:24.480
come from it i can still at least point to a lot of good having come from it i can't point to any
01:43:29.980
good having come from only fans no good no good comes from that i think there's good that comes
01:43:33.860
from only fans because if you think about it the reason why men or women like are subscribing or
01:43:40.820
purchasing those to those only fan girls are because they're probably afraid to approach real
01:43:47.760
girls in real life and or like maybe you know they're embarrassed or something something along
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the lines of that and them subscribing to them us is basically us helping them prepare for that
01:44:02.660
situation oh yeah well thanks it's a service it's quite the public service you go out here we're just
01:44:08.540
you're really you're just trying to help society benevolence of your own heart has nothing to do with
01:44:13.100
wanting to fill your pockets with lonely men who uh you then create a parasocial relationship with
01:44:19.280
and have a chinese dude or uh you know some foreigner uh chat with him at three o'clock in the morning
01:44:25.680
while you're soundly sleeping on your behalf in order to create and entail this parasocial relationship
01:44:31.520
you're a saint when in fact i mean when can we canonize you you are fantastic what you i know that
01:44:38.200
you're just doing this out of the goodness of your heart what was i thinking thank you yeah you're
01:44:44.740
just trying to help those poor 50 year old men who were just a little lonely and wanted to jerk off to
01:44:49.980
a young girl you know you're just trying to help them in fact i'd go so far as to say you would
01:44:54.660
definitely do this for no charge whatsoever because that's how benevolent you are right no no i didn't
01:45:01.540
think so sounds like the benevolence goes out the window the second the money goes out the window
01:45:06.220
all right there you have it we have a chat here from oops robert tanner i'm concerned especially
01:45:14.120
with the relationship part how this panel views a man so far i have heard about abortions random sex
01:45:19.720
acts or absolutely not good men question for the panel what's your ideal man also if andrew had an
01:45:25.820
input would love to hear it to help bridge a gap on this so we'll ask the question to the panel what's
01:45:32.800
your ideal man i suppose um perhaps the question could be uh what does a guy have to bring to the
01:45:41.380
table to get you actually one quick preamble preface question on this one uh if you got 80 percent of
01:45:52.620
everything that you want in your ideal partner would you be happy with that going around the table
01:45:58.600
starting with you go ahead no no okay it would be settling it would be what would it be settling
01:46:04.640
i think it should be equal i don't think i'd be happy if it was you know zero 80 i think it should
01:46:11.580
be fair either way wait can you repeat the question back to me just so you said if i got 80 percent of
01:46:18.880
the whole relationship you're saying no you got 80 so like let's say you have 10 things you want
01:46:25.340
a partner you want a guy who's funny you want a guy who makes this much money you want a guy who's
01:46:29.460
uh tall you want a guy who is charismatic whatever you have a list of 10 things and you get 80 of those
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things so uh you get eight of the 10 things that you want um this list could be longer it could be
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shorter in any case you get 80 of everything you want in your ideal partner would you be happy with
01:46:49.300
that i would be satisfied okay what about you yeah yeah what like i'd be satisfied okay um i think so
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i think that'd be good i would be happy you know there's always room for improvements over time
01:47:06.360
oh no well then no there is no improvement is it 80 flat or is it 80 working up you get 80 all the
01:47:14.560
things you want in your perfect partner you get 80 i feel like a hundred perfect partner would grow
01:47:22.780
it's not it's not your perfect partner it's 80 of your perfect partner so there's no growth
01:47:32.000
so that's zero percent if i want my partner to be able to grow and if he's they grow they only grow
01:47:39.540
80 percent though okay so it's capped at 80 yeah sure no one's perfect i'll still be happy
01:47:46.800
okay well chloe what about you i think it would depend if we're assuming there's 10 things it
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would depend what of the 10 things they have checked off because some things are more important than
01:47:56.200
others yeah that's what i was gonna say too yeah i agree with that like core values have to be there
01:48:01.760
like the eight has to be or the core values have to be within the eight but then the other two like
01:48:06.520
i don't like someone's height or someone's like yeah i don't know okay uh your answer so
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it was like the same thing that she said okay what about you it has to be 10 it has to be 100
01:48:18.540
it has to be everything okay all right what about you i'd be okay with that 80 tiffany probably not
01:48:25.180
like 90 you need not oh 90 okay yeah all right so then going around the table the question was uh
01:48:32.160
what what i guess what is what's your ideal man what does a guy need to bring to the table to get
01:48:37.380
you you can talk looks you can talk personality whatever good um personality comes first i just
01:48:45.000
need somebody to match my type of lifestyle pretty much because i travel a lot so that's one of the
01:48:52.120
main reasons why i don't really go out of my way to find somebody right now is because i would like to
01:48:57.900
give my person 100 as i would like to receive 100 so number one would be matching my lifestyle and
01:49:04.060
then secondary would come looks so yeah uh can you be a bit more concrete just like list out some things
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um i would say has to be compatible of course um has to be has to have good humor okay funny sure
01:49:23.080
funny yeah um and be able to understand my like sarcasm and my um like personality because i'm
01:49:33.620
i have a unique personality and i think some people don't understand it but yeah okay that and um
01:49:44.240
confidence confidence okay what about you um they have to be tall how tall
01:49:52.760
at least above five ten five eleven and how tall are you five two okay what else um they have
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to be understanding they like she said follow your lifestyle but willing to like both ways both of
01:50:11.480
you guys should be willing to adapt to each other's lifestyle lexi what about you um i'm the same way
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with my height preferences and i'm also about five two um minimum height you said five ten right yeah
01:50:28.180
okay like better but you know taller would what taller would be better six feet yeah okay um but yeah i like
01:50:37.620
athletes i like someone who's fit um are you do you do any sports i did do softball softball
01:50:45.000
any current i just lift just lift okay anything else um honesty humor fun effort effort okay anything
01:50:55.980
else i don't think so plus what about you um i like people who are social funny has a job dress as well
01:51:04.720
tall um and i don't know just likes to try new things i guess any physical traits
01:51:11.700
um you said tall right yeah okay like fit you know moderately fit anything else um on top of my
01:51:21.620
head that's pretty much it okay chloe what about you um someone who has appreciation for the arts
01:51:26.860
whether that be music or dance acting that's important to me um someone who loves animals i don't trust
01:51:33.720
someone who doesn't like animals uh nor do i trust someone who animals don't like them
01:51:38.100
um but then i honestly prefer people who are closer to my height um so i'd say my ideal range is
01:51:46.260
anywhere from like five five to five eight um but uh my the honduran person i had dated they were about
01:51:53.340
five two so they were a bit shorter than me um and that was completely fine as well um but yeah someone
01:51:59.700
funny someone mature um who has good communication skills okay what about you yeah i think mental maturity
01:52:07.440
is like the most important thing for me and along or what comes with that maturity is um being able to
01:52:14.800
see like multiple perspectives like maybe you don't have my opinion but like you can see my side
01:52:20.920
uh i like them wait what do you mean by that what what do you mean well like so you're saying
01:52:28.160
let's say you're in a disagreement with your boyfriend or whatever uh and so he's like no this is the way
01:52:36.680
and you're like yeah but i still want you to see my side like i like i want him to acknowledge that he
01:52:44.040
or like recognize that i have like a different opinion and then like be okay with that and he can
01:52:49.180
have a different opinion do you know what i mean like but he like he's open to seeing multiple
01:52:54.040
perspectives of things and he's not closed-minded what if he he's like no this is the way like this is
01:53:01.220
the truth i disrespect your opinion i then i'm gonna he's a opinion disrespecter that's that's a
01:53:10.240
no-go no-go no i think that's hot no i think that's hot he's a professional opinion disrespecter
01:53:18.240
i feel like you should or at least in like women wait let her finish let her finish good i just feel
01:53:23.480
like you should be able to see multiple perspectives like your life view is not everyone's life view
01:53:28.380
and you need to be able to see other people's lives view but what if there is like a central truth
01:53:35.240
like what if there is a truth can you give me yeah should you well yeah should you see a serial
01:53:41.420
killer's life view no but no you should see like how they grew up and like maybe things that affected
01:53:50.540
them to be that way and try to give them help yeah but understanding understanding the the idea of
01:53:58.220
like um you know i i can rationalize why you made a decision or rationalize why you didn't make a
01:54:04.580
decision is different from agreeing or accepting those things i'm not saying you have to agree with
01:54:11.020
them i'm just saying that you should or accept them right i'm not saying you should accept them i'm just
01:54:15.260
saying that you should listen to them and not like cut them off um and just like understand that
01:54:22.460
other people have different views and that your way is just like not the highway you know what i mean
01:54:26.760
what if it is the right way like your way is obviously better than the way of a serial killer
01:54:31.180
right i mean i guess there are like general morals but i'm just saying more in terms of what we're
01:54:37.600
talking about a relationship so she just wants him to be understanding yeah i want him to be
01:54:41.460
understanding essentially yeah you had something on that no no i thought she was going to say something
01:54:46.980
different okay all right uh okay what about you um i would say honest empathetic um athletic or
01:54:57.820
leads at least an active lifestyle are you yeah i lift i do rock climbing i do jujitsu what belt are
01:55:05.820
you i just started so it's been like six months but i just like picking up back to hobbies and actually
01:55:10.740
ellen going back to you i don't know if we finished if you you had more in fact in your notes you said
01:55:15.200
uh you're open to many topics such as what you look for in a guy so maybe there's a bit more
01:55:20.680
as far as what you look for in a guy um i guess like i like humor did i mention that i like humor
01:55:26.360
i feel like okay like my dad's very funny i feel like so like i want a partner that's funny sure
01:55:32.680
anything um i like ambitious men like they strive for something and they're always working on
01:55:39.880
themselves and doesn't have to be like money or like career related it can be just you know
01:55:45.420
lifestyle or working on bettering like communication or anything like that all right anything else or
01:55:53.800
that's pretty much it or that's pretty much it anything on the physical front on the physical
01:55:58.820
front yeah high um ripped shredded not really i mean chubby chaser i like guys like fat guys i like
01:56:07.800
guys that um or i would prefer if like they like worked out because i like to you work out too
01:56:13.360
i i do yoga all right okay cool anything else for you um just i guess like the our moral values have
01:56:23.060
to align are you religious no okay and i wouldn't want my partner to be really religious either i just
01:56:30.040
don't think that works are you agnostic atheist um just atheist okay is your family religious at all
01:56:37.220
yeah they're religious what are they hindu hindu okay all right were you raised hindu or okay
01:56:44.560
do your parents have any objections to your uh atheism or um no i mean they want me to date you know
01:56:52.080
more or less within my race do you do you eat beef in front of them no i just i mean i respect what
01:56:57.840
they want if they say don't cook beef in my house i'm not gonna do that okay uh what are you looking
01:57:02.480
for um i would say honesty for sure um and someone who is like fit i guess or average like and
01:57:12.040
like goal oriented and i don't know i don't really do relationships so i don't really yeah and then
01:57:21.360
tiffany uh tiffany for me the most important thing is being smart and then being tolerant
01:57:28.580
you being tolerant like be like being tolerating of me because you're annoying sort of yeah they
01:57:38.780
have to tolerate your they have to be calm contact and they have to be smart there's nothing more i
01:57:44.840
hate more than dumb men just pisses me off okay a lot of dumb men at ucsb and providers they have to
01:57:52.820
and a provider okay uh i had a uh quick follow-up to this right i do also perhaps we have the same
01:57:59.660
one but right before i um there's a couple chats coming in here i'm gonna play one and then guys we
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do have a bit of a delay on these but they'll come in and well met just a second paladins donated
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200 paladins thank you man you like a man who tells you what to do and is never wrong hit me up
01:58:19.720
is this for tiffany she does unfortunately she does have a a boyfriend so um sorry law paladins
01:58:28.080
but um any other girls maybe i don't know thank you law paladins really good to see in the chat
01:58:33.580
uh andrew you had a follow-up was it what do they bring to the table no it was uh just to piggyback
01:58:39.700
on this actually before you asked that question i'm just going to ask what their what their core
01:58:43.700
values are so what your just very quickly what your core values are and then you can piggyback
01:58:48.620
with the question of what you bring to the table is this for the whole panel or yeah yeah just very
01:58:54.060
briefly what are your core values core values core values core values chair one um i would say
01:59:07.020
love is like the most important beautiful so beautiful i mean i think just being there for
01:59:17.520
somebody is most important i think intelligence like she said is also very important
01:59:21.920
so intelligence is a core value andrew just to help them out what would be an example of a core value
01:59:31.640
i actually uh i actually don't want to help out on this uh i just want to know the answer to what
01:59:36.680
they think i don't i don't i don't think people are confused as to what a core value is right so
01:59:42.700
uh chair two what's a what are your core values i think i agree with chair one like mainly love
01:59:49.520
okay chair three um like the core values of what i look for in a person like no no your core values
01:59:59.400
oh myself um i would say that i think religion is pretty important i think if you're kind of
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i don't know but i think not pressuring into anything is really important to me
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yeah that's all i can think of right now okay chair four what's what are your core values i think i
02:00:20.680
missed a little bit oh just what are your core values that's the question um i mean i i gift give
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a lot she's a gift giver she gifts gives gifts gifts gifts okay gifts chair five what are your core
02:00:36.660
values um probably compassion um as well as i like to call myself a lifelong learner so that just
02:00:45.440
means every day making sure you go out there and you learn something new and you better yourself in
02:00:49.920
some way okay chair six core values um empathy i really look for like kindness um i always and then
02:00:59.760
like self-improvement it's not it's not what you're looking for sorry sorry my core values like
02:01:03.920
core values yeah empathy kindness um and then self-improvement just being like a good-natured
02:01:10.880
human being that's okay core values um they have to be on the same page no your core values oh mine
02:01:18.860
yeah okay i guess your core values um uh like kind yeah empathetic uh like i guess politically
02:01:32.880
like i care about women's rights i care about reproductive rights things like that okay next
02:01:40.480
core values um i'd say always trying to be better like never just giving up and there's something that
02:01:47.700
you know you can always work on okay core values positivity family life um christianity
02:01:58.520
and being self-aware i would like to point out before brian asked his next question that none of
02:02:05.600
you said duty none of you said anything that was duty related uh but anyway brian go ahead yeah sure
02:02:12.520
so uh you guys all listed kind of what you want men to bring to the table you guys had various answers
02:02:21.160
to that different answers uh what do you bring to the table go ahead i bring exactly what i expect them
02:02:28.980
to bring so passion commitment um just everything i would want i would bring as well do you want a guy
02:02:40.040
to pay for the first date no i don't think you need to i mean yeah all right uh cena what about you
02:02:48.680
i bring wait hold on just to be in your uh questionnaire you disagreed that women should go 50 50 on the
02:02:56.800
first date um yeah sorry so the man should pay on the first date no i i don't think they should go 50
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50 50 i think it doesn't really matter doesn't matter whether she pays the full bill or he pays
02:03:10.160
the full bill so kind of i guess i could have put 50 50 on that one but yeah so you don't you're fine
02:03:18.020
with you're fine with it being 50 50 then sure you just don't think it doesn't matter to be 50 50 okay
02:03:25.900
all right cena um what do you bring to the table the fact that i'll be a housewife for them
02:03:32.180
because if it's a provider man like i don't think this might be controversial like i don't think
02:03:38.760
woman if you're not providing for your men you can't bring much to the table so like if i'm willing
02:03:45.600
to be a housewife for them i'm willing to cook and clean for them while they work i think that's enough
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okay hold on i'm gonna let you and well met lol paladin's donated two hundred dollars and two cents
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she has a boyfriend doesn't bother me just send me a whisper i'm playing on the night slayer server
02:04:05.340
he doesn't need to know if we clear wailing caverns together
02:04:08.620
by the way guys the whatever guild andrew needs to freaking create his mage uh we are playing there's
02:04:17.120
the whatever guild we're playing on night slayer for the anniversary world of warcraft classic realms
02:04:23.040
we're on horde side join the discord discord.gg slash whatever if you want to join the uh the
02:04:28.740
guild is that hardcore though brian no not hardcore just uh regular regular pvp pvp okay yeah not hardcore
02:04:36.060
um where were we uh what do you bring to the table um loyalty for sure i also i don't want to be in a
02:04:47.980
marriage where i solely depend on my husband because i feel like that gives him a lot of
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things like that he can hold over my head so i definitely want to be able to be financially
02:04:59.960
independent and take care of myself and my kids and give them the life i want for us aside from my
02:05:06.640
husband's salary why do you assume that he would hold things above your head just if like if i don't
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have anything and i solely rely on him for everything i have to ask him can i get this can i get that
02:05:22.080
um i feel like also like with prenups or anything like that if i probably wouldn't divorce a man i
02:05:32.940
didn't want to be with if i knew i would be homeless or i wouldn't be in that great of a state after
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um i don't i think i would because i would have my own money so it doesn't matter i mean
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if you're do you plan on having children at some point yes and it's probably going to be optimal for
02:05:57.680
you to stay at home with them right i don't think so you're going to outsource it what do you mean
02:06:04.340
i'm going to outsource you're going to outsource your children's raising being raised by other people
02:06:08.640
or would you rather raise them i'm definitely going to be a big influence in my children's life
02:06:14.820
that's also part of why i want to go to the pa program for the lifestyle balance so i'm definitely
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going to feel like i can also with the help of my partner my partner and i should both be able to
02:06:28.800
raise our kids yeah but i mean for just talking about what's optimal let's say man he has enough
02:06:34.740
money so that you can stay at home with the kids it would be optimal for you as the mother to stay
02:06:40.720
home with the kids rather than outsourcing their raising to somebody who's not their mother right
02:06:45.120
i don't think i would need to rely on someone else that's not their mom i think like of course you might
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need day care and nanny well that's outsourcing right okay but i would probably go with one of
02:07:00.620
my family members and i that's still outsourcing right how many kids do you want probably just like
02:07:06.600
two two kids okay um all right can i ask something yeah is are you saying it's not possible to have a
02:07:14.480
career in kids that's like no of course not it's possible talking about what's optimal you think that
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it's a good idea to outsource the raising of your children to other people it's not a good idea
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i'm sorry i mean men do it all the time so i don't really see what your point what do you mean what do
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you mean men do it all the time can men not have a career and raise kids no no so that's the that's
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the optimal portion right is that man has a career right so last i checked in case you don't know this
02:07:39.340
but men can't breastfeed for instance women can do that it's the healthiest way to raise a child on
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breast milk not with formula we have all the scientific data in planet earth at this point to prove that so
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at least within the first year of the child's life the mom probably should be at home with the child
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if that is the case then the father probably is going to be working right
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yes but i mean yeah i've been doing it for centuries can you not breast like breast pump and give the
02:08:03.560
milk out yeah sometimes sometimes women have all sorts of different troubles with this they can't
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produce enough milk they can't pump enough milk they can't there's all sorts of things which come up
02:08:12.360
when it comes to breastfeeding so i mean optimally the best thing to do is to let the baby latch on
02:08:16.960
and drink right that's the that's how that's how we've been doing this for several thousand years
02:08:21.940
now it works pretty good and they get very healthy uh because they get the correct nutrition from their
02:08:27.400
mom and by the way a baby's entire immune system is essentially formed uh off of those nutrients so
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yeah it's it's pretty good for the children if that's your view on it then what well i mean what's
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controversial about that view a baby's entire they're literally like this will affect their
02:08:47.640
iq it'll affect their development it affects everything it affects their immune system if you
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give a child who's developing poor nourishment you're setting them up for failure you'll set
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them up to be lower iq have behavioral issues have all sorts of problems of course it's optimal for
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their mom to be there with them giving them affection and feeding them right okay but where's the
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dad at if he's the dad is working to enable the fact that the mom can do that but it takes it takes
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two to take to take a kid right so it should take two to raise that kid and if you need to reach out
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and if like if she wants to work because she doesn't want to depend on her husband then her getting
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care for her child shouldn't be a problem at all well it's that's not what we're talking about though
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you're just you're just switching the issue talking about what's optimal not what is possible there's
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all sorts of arrangements which are possible you could technically uh raise a kid in the playboy
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mansion but do you think that that's going to be good for the kid no of course not no of course not
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right so it's not optimal so the thing is is like if we're talking about what's optimal not what's
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possible how are you going to say what's best for a kid is if mommy can stay at home with baby
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and feed baby breast milk and take care and nurture baby obviously that that's optimal but can you give me
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a single scenario where where there's a bet where there's actually optimal than that so no i'm not
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saying more optimal but what if that's not a possibility so my son had a tongue tie and that's
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a medical problem as a tongue tie it's a medical problem as to why he couldn't latch on it is
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underneath your tongue it's the thing that is like right there it's too long so you have to get it cut
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you have to go through a procedure to be able to latch on to your mother okay so there are reasons and
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there's you know it's not just yeah breast milk is best well i don't i don't even understand in
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that context didn't you just get the procedure and then breastfeed the kid i mean yeah you could
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but do you want to cut your child's tongue what's the problem what do you mean is cutting your child's
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tongue optimal but oh well let's assume for a second that in this one case where almost nobody has
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this problem sorry you go okay we'll make yes i had this problem hang on hang on let me make a case
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and i'll let you respond i promise right uh let's say in this one case you had to make alternative
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arrangements or you had to pump or something like this it was less than optimal uh pointing at the
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outlier and saying that that's a standard we should promote seems silly to me yeah i'm sure that there's
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going to be individual cases of health issues with children where you're going to have to make
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less than optimal decisions because you're in a less than optimal situation but for the vast vast vast
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majority of all of humanity who exists right this second clearly a woman staying at home with her
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children is optimal in comparison to outsourcing their children that that that seems obvious right
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no it doesn't it doesn't because you can't just say that everything like that it's up like the world
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is ridiculous right now like it's not like it was back in the day it's not it that's not how things go
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anymore it because bill yeah it's not how it goes if you say well i just demand that i go work and
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outsource my child care then yeah but the truth is is that there's tens of thousands hundreds of
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thousands and millions of families all over uh all over the world all over the united states all over
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south america all over north all over the place who have dad go to work for very little money and still
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because they do all sorts of budget cuts in their homes maybe they only have one vehicle
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right it's tough but they make sure that mom can stay at home with kids because well they're going to
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get the best nutrition possible and they're going to have their mom what could possibly be more
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important to a baby than having their mom so let me ask does that change how the child turns out
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oh yeah significantly changes so then how does dad how does dad
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can i add something so here's the examples here's the examples yes uh not only does it affect their immune
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system it affects their iq it affects their physiology it affects their height it affects
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their weight it affects long term uh problems inside of a human being's health it also affects
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behavior it affects behavior because you have detachment problems you have all sorts of issues
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that come uh with the feeling of abandonment when child care is outsourced away from the mom
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and this is one of the most psychologically studied phenomenon on planet earth along with the
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nutritional values and we see the results of mass inflammation in children adhd at all time
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highs depression all of these different things much of this has been linked to the idea of the
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plastics that are inside of food the lack of nourishment lack of breastfeeding and formula feeding
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um so i would say i would agree maybe in the first year a child is born that a mother could take
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time off to really really tend to her child but my mom has worked a full-time job since forever
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and i mean i are you i feel like i turned out pretty good i got my yeah but but here's the thing
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nobody's disputing that you can't have good results by doing things in a less than optimal way
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nobody's disputing that like for instance i suppose that i could start a bonfire with a
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hand grenade right or i can start it with a match i would just say that starting it with the match
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would be more optimal than starting it with a hand grenade so the idea here hang on the idea here
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is just to say right that yes you can have you can have good results and good children and people who
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are even even with that but i'm just saying that if we look at the stats and the data we can clearly
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see that most people have less than good results and who knows how you would have turned out had
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mommy stayed home with you the entire time could be vastly different can i say something did you do
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everything the optimal way and did your parents do everything the optimal way if you're putting the
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standard on everyone else let's say for a second they didn't do you understand that when you make
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an argument a two-quo fallacy which what you're doing right now what about you
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wouldn't matter let's say for a second my parents did the opposite they were both feminazis and they
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ran around with blue hair right they hated their children they thought i was complete scum and they
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completely malnourished me what in the world would that have to do with what was optimal or what
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wasn't i'm just saying that you're holding everyone to this ridiculous standard of every single
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thing not holding anybody to any standard all i said was what is optimal what is not looking for
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an argument for why i'm wrong what standard have i held you to you guys agree that it's optimal
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hang on let me answer the question okay ideally if u.s gave longer maternity leave and we were able to
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be with our children for that full one year i guess i would say it's optimal but many families cannot
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survive on one person's salary especially with the economy so right now it's not yeah well then you need
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to explain why it is that it's the uh least rich demographic the poorest people have the most amount of
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children what if what if people have the most amount of children also right have mom stay home while dad
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works right they're underneath that income threshold most of the time and interestingly enough what
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happens is the opposite when you have middle class they try to do tend to do what's called family
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planning right and so they want to have kind of a posher lifestyle and oftentimes they do that at the
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i have a question i mean the demographic as most kids is poor poor people though right
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how long do you think then a woman should optimally stay home with their child what age is it okay for
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them to then resume their work i think that they should stay home with them until they're nearing
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adulthood but we send kids to school for the whole day when they're in kindergarten do you guys want
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to work i think they hang on i think i think they should be homeschooled okay that was and i think
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instead of using our best i think that instead of using our breast or best and brightest to go into
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office buildings all the time right and uh you know go work as uh you know sandwich makers and work
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in the service industry which is where we send them all the time right most of them aren't aren't being
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the doctors and lawyers they're mostly working as waitresses and in the service industry i think
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instead of wasting women there we should take our best and brightest and have them raising the next
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generation of the best and brightest that's what i think i i say that because i i actually was
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homeschooled um my entire life essentially um but there's definite bad things to homeschooling as
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well um you don't get the social connect you need between people of your own age so that
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hinders you completely no completely opposite in fact the public school system because of the way
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that it's set up if you homeschool all of the extracurricular activities which your property taxes
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go to pay for you can enroll your children in all of them without ever sending them to that school
02:17:44.120
so if you want them to be on the wrestling team the football team the volleyball team with the
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cheerleading squad or any of these different things guess what you can just send them right
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along because your tax dollars pay for all that the school can't tell you anything different if
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you're inside the curriculum so that's completely wrong the socialization aspect of it has been
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well studied they're not antisocial they graduate much earlier than children outside the homeschool
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curriculum they do better long term and most longitudinal studies than people go to public
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school but i was homeschooled yes and that was not the case where i lived not to mention i was not
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homeschooled by my parents i was homeschooled by a computer which is what a lot of homeschoolers are doing
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nowadays they get they sit in front of their computers their family what do you think you do
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in a public school okay but that raises the same point then do you not feel more neglect if you're
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being kept at home away from everyone else and your family is then also not being kept away from
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anyone else these are these are this is full of uh red herrings and kind of false anecdotes
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how are you being kept away from everybody else because you don't have to go to a peewee prison
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where you're locked in a room for eight hours a day right and forced to learn shit you don't care
02:18:56.120
about let's assume that seems like it's completely suboptimal in fact let's assume you know why that
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exists that system exists for the because working parents need babysitters that's why school lasts
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eight hours even though every single study we look at shows that young children do not do well
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when you go past somewhere around three to four hours of daily education they don't do well
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but but we make the work the uh the day that long so that parents can go and work and be
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cogs in the economy does that sound like it's a good deal doesn't sound like a good deal to me
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speaking from my own personal upbringing and experience as someone who was homeschooled my
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entire life when you're growing up and you see the quote unquote let's say a normal childhood you see
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kids going off to school hanging out with their school friends participating on these clubs that are in
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school doing all this when you don't get that as a child and you were not allowed to get that
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as a child in that normal experience you feel a certain way about it almost anyone i know who
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is also homeschooled also has felt that certain way about and it takes a little bit to get over that
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because you're jealous for a while of people who got to do that what what i'm sorry didn't you say
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that you graduated at 14 and went to college yeah i guarantee you that most of these public school kids
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who had to stay in the peewee prison until they were 18 and their senior year in high school they
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were taking nothing but electives because they just needed a warm seat so the school got federal
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funding would vastly have preferred to have graduated at 14 years old and gone on with their life and
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every day i wish i had stayed behind and gotten to live a normal what was the advantage of staying
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behind why couldn't you live a normal life at 14 after you graduated because being a 14 year old in
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a class with a bunch of 20 something year olds you're not going to make many friends you weren't
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going to what classes were you going to with 20 something year olds at 14 college classes you
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what you weren't enrolled in college going to college at 14 that's ridiculous what did i do in
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between the years i graduated i have no idea but you weren't going to college and and hanging out
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in rooms with 20 year olds in college room that's what happens show me a single picture of this so
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show me show me any any anything backing up that at 14 years old you were going to college rooms with
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20 year olds and learning advanced calculus are ridiculous the most ridiculous thing you've said
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all night when kids graduate early are they then expected to just sit there and wait until they are
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of the normal college age to then attend college no the learning doesn't doesn't end just because
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you graduated that is also absurd you can take i didn't say that college you can you can take what
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are called college pre-prep classes you can go to trade schools you can do all sorts of different
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things with your education college preparatory why why is the expectation that you sit there like a
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drooling idiot looking at the wall why can't you okay well you're saying why can't you pursue art
02:21:46.960
why can't you pursue cooking in other interests hang on let me ask a question you can answer
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why can't you pursue all of these things that you want to pursue exactly because i want to get if
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i graduate early and my goal is to graduate with a degree you know then in my head how it was when i
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was graduating and went off to college if i don't go straight into college i have now wasted my extra
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years of graduating early why because i want college isn't for everyone out of the way yeah
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first of all college isn't for right it's not and it's not and it's not even a boon for most people
02:22:25.460
go through it most people go through it they end up with a lot of debt and they only make a slight
02:22:30.260
a slight amount more of money and that's after years of still being at an entry level job that's one so
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the second thing is is having your your general schooling general education behind you at 13 14 years
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old and you're on par with your 18 year old peers gives you every advantage to start doing other
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pursuits earlier be it music be it trade schools be it cooking pursuits hobbies whatever it is that
02:22:52.560
you want to do this idea that you have to be perpetually schooled is nonsense it's nonsense most
02:22:58.020
people run on passion and when they work around things that they're passionate about they tend to
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make the most amount of money and have the highest in the happiness indexes so it's like why do we have
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to continuously push down everybody's throat that they need to get a degree in something worthless
02:23:12.880
you know how many political science degrees have sat here and they don't know anything about
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about politics how many women with different degrees have sat here and and they have a degree
02:23:22.020
in psychology don't know anything about psychology this is not college is not about rewarding the
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best and brightest if it was not everybody could go
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could I ask a question did you go to um like public school private school were you homeschooled
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uh it was a mix I didn't like school school's not for smart people school's not where smart people
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go school is where smart people leave that's what smart people do they get the fuck away as fast as
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they can so that they can go pursue things that are it's like I remember watching a video the guy owns
02:23:56.760
virgin okay you know you might have heard of virgin virgin travel virgin uh mobile all of this
02:24:03.000
and I remember him sitting down a room full of suits who were multi-millionaires and he laughed at
02:24:07.280
him because they all went through their entire life getting degrees and playing the stock market
02:24:10.780
and this and that he said I'm the only billionaire in the room and I'm a ninth grade dropout
02:24:13.820
the thing is is like no I don't think that uh education has to do with a school room I think
02:24:19.780
that you need to teach kids how to read write do arithmetic basic english uh right now your graduation
02:24:24.940
rates at 12th grade they're they're walking out they can't read at a sixth grade level
02:24:29.740
who's this helpful to does society seem like it's smarter than it was when people only had an eighth
02:24:35.120
grade education because it doesn't seem like that to me
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I'm gonna let a couple chats come through because there's a bit of a backlog here sorry for the delay
02:24:45.480
on some of these guys metro matt we got two of yours coming in the cut we I just wanted to allow
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the conversation to play out so gonna let uh there's about 10 chats coming through so
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metro matt donated 200 this panel's last two brain cells are fighting for third place right now
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have a burrito tonight brian that is for the discord game we're playing uh metro matt thank
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you for the tts man do appreciate it no burritos for me tonight I already had one earlier today so
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uh we will I'll have something else you know but thank you metro matt shout out to the discord
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hope you guys are enjoying uh are you playing world of warcraft is that what it is
02:25:25.460
metro matt donated 200 ladies would you date a man that subbed to enough girl
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when are we going to start blaming the men that support of girls andrew has been stewing
02:25:39.460
shout out discord fam that did come in uh you know a while ago but uh ladies would you date a man
02:25:46.700
that subbed to an only fans girl uh yes or no going around the table really quick please
02:25:53.020
sure yeah yeah okay no you wouldn't have an issue no what's the issue he's he's dating you but he's
02:26:01.180
like jerking off at the same time he's he's just saying while you're dating he just said if he did
02:26:08.220
no would you date a man that subbed to an OF girl so I assume the question here is not at the same time
02:26:13.660
uh going into the relationship he would continue subbing to an OF girl I think that's my sense of
02:26:20.360
the question well you're an OF girl so I think he's asking if he did in the past yeah that's what
02:26:26.780
I thought it was right yeah oh that subbed to an I don't think that's the question I thought it was
02:26:34.180
because when you say subs because subs is like a past subbed a man that's subbed in the past
02:26:41.000
yeah couldn't subs subs to be current tense is that the right word that subs to that would be
02:26:48.000
current subs yeah subs to not subbed to has subbed he's subbed data man that data man that
02:26:57.440
subbed to an OF girl unless unless I think that's current unless he's saying he's subbed to them during
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your relationship just answer both I feel like if you just the operative word that is very important
02:27:10.560
here that subbed which current yeah right current tense that subbed prior there was no prior he didn't
02:27:19.360
say prior get metro map bro can you clarify what the fuck dude uh okay here I'm just gonna take it my
02:27:27.800
way then he's currently subbed to an OF girl and you're dating him is it an issue go ahead
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no I would not date him okay pause what about you no issue okay Chloe no no is it that it is an issue
02:27:42.800
or hello okay skip yes yes issue okay all right Tiffany no I would not date Tiffany it's an issue
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okay all right we have bender the offender uh including brian and andrew hypothetical question
02:27:57.000
would you support a bill that if a woman chooses to keep the right to an abortion she would have to
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be signed up for a draft civil service okay dumbest question ever wait um would you support a bill that
02:28:09.960
if a woman chooses to keep the right to an abortion
02:28:11.720
oh uh okay sure um so you guys for in perpetuity get to keep the right to an abortion but you would
02:28:21.780
have to also be subject to military conscription do you make that trade-off how about this wait first
02:28:26.980
off who's pro-life just show your raise of hands pro-life you're in the middle who's pro-choice
02:28:32.820
raise your hands aren't you catholic yeah but I mean I feel like if it's a right in their circumstances
02:28:43.320
sounds like what what circumstances do that does the catholic church support
02:28:49.500
I'm not necessarily representing the catholic church but just
02:28:54.820
but I mean you're part of the catholic church right so uh incest essay essentially okay life
02:29:00.740
doesn't support that okay okay so the question is uh would you support a bill that uh if a woman
02:29:08.760
chooses to she she can abortion rights are protected but for the individual but they have
02:29:15.100
to sign up for the draft they have to be eligible for the draft or civil service in favor um I think
02:29:23.140
that's okay okay no not in favor so you give up the abortion rights okay I don't think I would
02:29:28.980
support that bill so you give up the abortion rights okay um same give up the abortion rights okay
02:29:36.760
I it wouldn't personally ever apply to me but like I support other people having abortions I would
02:29:47.880
never have one sure um I think would mentally affect me too much um but I don't know I also don't see
02:29:56.900
the correlation between the two how they would make just hypothetical um but so if if they signed it
02:30:05.620
at all like if they signed the bill at all I gotta keep things moving what about you Ellen I don't
02:30:10.140
have a comment on that what do you mean like I don't I feel like I need to think about it a little
02:30:15.480
bit more like I don't really want to express my opinion currently uh okay uh what about you
02:30:22.900
yes I would support that yes okay no I wouldn't support it all right and I do have actually kind
02:30:29.960
of a follow-up question on that um would you rather have a democracy or access to abortions
02:30:36.440
I don't have a answer for that one I you gotta pick you have to pick one I don't know I would need
02:30:47.200
more detail can you give me more detail democracy yeah democracy is gone and you can have abortions
02:30:53.680
or you can have abortions or you can't have abortions but you have democracy I think you
02:30:59.840
can have abortions I don't know well Andrew would this be like a fair scenario so you can still have
02:31:05.700
an abortions but you have like a uh you have a a Trump monarchy and then like Trump becomes like
02:31:13.580
god king and then all his like his firstborn son then becomes president and then like it's just uh
02:31:22.580
what's the progenit what's that term for no it'd be but but there's a specific term for like
02:31:31.680
progenitur I don't fucking know okay whatever it goes from father to son goes from father to son okay
02:31:40.360
so it's like Trump for obviously I wouldn't want that so you don't like baron you're not like a
02:31:46.900
baron stan a karen baron baron trump no no no okay what do you pick same as her
02:31:54.080
so what is your answer um okay do you pick democracy or do you pick democracy abortion
02:32:04.580
democracy okay all right whatever they got in Canada I don't know what they have in Canada
02:32:10.340
annex Canada I think I'm a little lost on the question but I think I'd pick democracy okay pause
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democracy or abortions um democracy okay Chloe probably abortions okay why I just you're like
02:32:28.860
anarchist I feel like you're like fuck democracy the democracy we have anyway is like hardly even
02:32:34.780
so what do you mean by that I don't have the U.S. for me has not painted a good picture of what
02:32:40.480
democracy is um so given that I don't like this democracy that we're in not that I'm like
02:32:49.580
not if if Kamala had just won would you would your answer be different no okay you'd still be like
02:32:57.860
fuck I just don't like the U.S. wait what you just prefer the South Korean democracy I just don't
02:33:07.140
like the U.S. why I never have I've lived abroad before and why don't you like the U.S. the people
02:33:15.940
here and the culture here and the government here South Korea is an American port I mean they literally
02:33:24.280
imported all of the values of America they have the same democracy they have the same types of
02:33:28.540
constitutional rights like it's basically an American port it's a lot more conservative though
02:33:34.060
the cultural the culture is different though it's very different yes yeah um what about America do you
02:33:42.880
dislike I just don't like it all in all the way the government does things like what here the police
02:33:51.440
forces not that I don't like the police I have plenty of friends who are police men and police
02:33:58.680
women do you think we should defund the police not defund it's just like better training needs to
02:34:03.740
happen okay what are your objections though when it comes to the police just they're not trained well
02:34:08.620
systematic racism systematic racism oh yeah that's not a problem with South Korean police at all
02:34:14.500
that's like they're like known for it just like Japanese police are known for literally known for
02:34:23.120
it's one of the most common things that Asian police forces are known for is being the most racist on
02:34:27.580
planet earth and when I see that with my own eyes then I'll have a different opinion on that but I
02:34:33.440
have seen countless of my friends shot by police officers you've seen wait hold on do you know
02:34:38.060
you haven't you're full of it you haven't seen countless of your friends shot by cops you've
02:34:42.300
seen you've seen with your own eyes you've been hanging like what do you mean see I have seen a
02:34:48.520
couple of my friends get shot with my own eyes and then I've seen I know you haven't my friends who
02:34:54.100
okay I'll tell you what I'll tell you what I've got a $500 right now if you could give the scenario of
02:35:00.240
where you can prove that you're you were somewhere where you physically watched your friend get shot by
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cops Brian pulls it up I'll give you $500 right now why would there be a video of it well you know
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it's pretty high profile when somebody gets shot by the not in the area that some people live in yeah
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you know even in predominantly black areas it's still actually rare that black men get shot by
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police very rare they have body cams to the police and a lot of wait so you were hanging out
02:35:29.160
like when you say you've seen because some people might use the word seen like I knew somebody
02:35:35.060
and they were shot but I didn't see it you saw it with your own eyes you were there with them I
02:35:40.400
have seen probably two people with my own eyes get shot but then I have seen in passing as in like
02:35:46.320
heard from everyone seen it so you've seen you haven't you've seen you haven't seen anybody get
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shot but at least two not just one you had to go with the two so now it's like there's one really
02:35:58.520
rare event that almost nobody ever witnesses you just happen to see it twice with your own eyes it's
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like just stop are you counting it's listen you're embarrassing yourself literally it might be rare
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for you where where are you it's rare for everybody the the mean streets of santa monica jennings
02:36:15.300
missouri jennings missouri i'm not familiar with jennings missouri wait but so um you and are you
02:36:22.540
counting taser or are you saying uh no like shot at yes shot at shot were they hit one of them was
02:36:30.520
shot at shot at yes with a gun yes huh i don't know how it goes maybe missouri i don't know missouri
02:36:39.260
is kind of crazy not gonna lie maybe it's true andrew it is missouri after all
02:36:43.840
you were there did you get shot too no you didn't get shot no was it the man who got shot
02:36:52.140
the man was it were you with a man or who was who got shot the man i was in a group of friends
02:36:58.300
and one of the guys got shot was he white or black black or asian or latino black polynesian
02:37:06.580
or indigenous or native american extra ones he was black yes and but you said two shootings
02:37:12.680
was the other guy also black yes this was the same day this is a very racist oh
02:37:20.300
um okay did they make it are they okay or um one of them had to get treated like i said one of them
02:37:29.420
actually got hit one of them was not hit but they were shot at were they did he run away or what
02:37:34.380
happened the other guy who made it who didn't get shot but got shot the guy who got shot at yeah
02:37:39.740
is he okay it wasn't i don't think that one was meant to hit them it was like a warning shot
02:37:45.560
i don't know what i'd call it to be honest are you sure it was a police officer not like gang
02:37:51.540
banging no i'm very sure it was a police officer outfit police officer what what was the crime that
02:37:57.020
the two men were like accused of or alleged to have committed because usually cops don't like just
02:38:02.900
start blasting like for no reason did they did wait question did they have guns on them no
02:38:08.540
we were all roughhousing you were roughhousing roughhousing how old were you guys when this
02:38:17.660
happened 13 the cops were shooting at 13 year olds we were 13 ish yeah and so the cops
02:38:24.340
drew guns on cop singular singular cop like a mall cop or like a cop cop we were we were in
02:38:33.480
this area there's this like almost abandoned parking lot next to where i lived and we'd all
02:38:37.900
we'd all hang out there um and we just like we all did fighting sports so we would legitimately be
02:38:45.260
fighting each other it's like it was like fight club kind of we even as a child we used to have
02:38:51.320
rock fights and we just get rocks and swing them at each other normally wait so okay cop pulls up
02:38:56.300
he's like pulls out the blicky and just starts blasting it's not like they started the last
02:39:02.720
starts blasting shot at them shot yeah it wasn't like the crime they were being accused like what
02:39:09.720
and violence mind you can we can we just point a couple of uh of stats out here for jennings missouri
02:39:15.780
that the entirety of the population of jennings missouri is 12 895 people it's extremely tiny
02:39:22.680
yeah yeah and do you know if you if you had to take a guess how many police shootings would you
02:39:28.940
say that there were last year in jennings missouri i have not lived in missouri since i was a child
02:39:34.220
so okay what year did this happen so i can look up the uh the stats and how many police shootings
02:39:38.860
this happened it wasn't reported and andrew it wasn't reported no if an officer discharged a
02:39:45.200
weapon and somebody was it was it was a corrupt police station the corrupt cops
02:39:52.620
went out and just started willy-nilly discharging their weapon at people at 13 year olds at the
02:39:57.100
time they were blasting at the 13 year olds not the wording i used but
02:40:01.240
in like a this is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard in my life
02:40:09.000
that's just completely ridiculous are you sure like they didn't just shut their car door loudly
02:40:13.180
and you guys thought it sounded like gunshots we know what gunshots sounded like yeah did did you carry
02:40:19.700
back when you were 13 or i used to go shooting with my family
02:40:24.800
what so the gun just pulled the the cop pulls up to a bunch of 13 year olds in their fight club
02:40:32.700
and just starts blasting was he blasting like was he trying to hit someone specific or he was just
02:40:40.380
like kind of like fuck it if they die they die i'm not them so i wouldn't personally know what
02:40:47.340
was going through their head what do you mean them i say them when i refer to anyone like they them
02:40:52.200
are you talking they them no no no now do am i to assume that this 13 year old went to the hospital
02:40:57.440
at least to the hospital well one of them missed yeah one of them was not actually hit okay which one
02:41:05.060
was it was it the 13 year old they got like grazed in the arm it wasn't a serious serious did they go
02:41:11.020
to the hospital they went to the doctors yes like they went to the hospital so the by law if there's
02:41:17.200
a shooting of this type uh the hospitals have to immediately report it to the police department
02:41:22.800
and so we would have a record if you give me the year i can actually source it and find out if there
02:41:28.040
was any 13 year olds who were shot that year because the hospital reported it to the police that
02:41:33.700
never anything ever happened out of wait i got to read this really quick before it falls off
02:41:38.440
lol paladin says bro chicks are never happy 80 of infinity still infinity you could give them like
02:41:43.700
chris hemsworth and it wouldn't be enough for any woman though for those of you women who said
02:41:48.200
80 not acceptable although we had some pretty open-minded women here um so do we want to continue
02:41:53.960
with the the inquiry continue i want to continue about the inquiry to know this the cop shooting inquiry
02:41:59.540
so yeah so so this 13 year old he was grazed he went to the hospital and you're saying that the
02:42:04.840
hospital never reported it to the police department he went to a doctor was it a vet no like one of
02:42:13.500
those yeah a doctor don't also have to report a gunshot related injury to the police by law you know
02:42:20.360
those like shifty places that aren't really legal doctors but they know how to do some stuff like it's a
02:42:26.240
you took him to a veterinarian did you yeah she she it was like a vet doctor who like you took him to a
02:42:31.500
veterinarian like breaking that it was like in a casino right like you get popped right holy gets
02:42:36.780
popped and you see you take him over to the veterinarian and the veterinarian removes the
02:42:40.720
bullets and shows him up and then away he goes like it was like that no like those people who are
02:42:45.180
operating out of a weird building who don't actually have a license to be doing what they're doing
02:42:50.000
some meth heads i mean i don't know what they are but yeah i know exactly what you're talking about
02:42:55.580
i've often seen unlicensed doctor buildings where you can go in and have bullet holes removed from
02:43:01.900
you said nobody ever in the history of uh well all of my lifetime anyway uh it's just by the way if
02:43:08.480
i'm wrong quick show of hands how many of you have ever gone and visited one of these shifty
02:43:13.940
unlicensed doctors whose job is to remove bullet wounds from people you know what i of hands show of
02:43:20.880
hands anybody i actually take her word for it i've been to jennings missouri and it's
02:43:25.560
it's rough out there in jennings okay andrew let's not diminut let's not downplay
02:43:34.780
the mean streets of jennings because you might catch a beef you're you're not you're in michigan
02:43:40.120
andrew you might catch a beef in one of these gangbangers in jennings missouri they they don't
02:43:45.040
fuck around like you're disrespecting uh the j boys wait uh the jennings boys you've the jennings
02:43:52.860
boys the jen not andrew the jennings boys like that's the gang that is that the what's the name
02:43:58.340
of the gang from jennings it's the the the jennings the jennings boys and then also the
02:44:10.480
you know what though maybe maybe you're right i knew a chick once she knew a guy who was walking
02:44:22.420
through or she knew a girl who was walking through a park and this chick was trained in mma and she
02:44:27.460
was attacked by a couple of muggers and she didn't just break one of their legs she broke all of their
02:44:32.400
legs she broke all of these muggers legs with her bare hands the most impressive thing i'd ever
02:44:36.500
heard of i remember that story i was the the breaking leg story that was a good one uh okay
02:44:43.600
we have joe murphy here bna let's cook a roast each lady defined feminism from a western perspective
02:44:49.220
and an eastern person that that's asking a lot joe uh ladies speak up against a master debater
02:44:55.580
don't be afraid to open up your world views uh how about this because i don't know i mean
02:45:01.860
western perspective eastern perspective i don't know how productive that'll be uh how about just
02:45:06.200
going around the table do you consider yourself a feminist starting with you yes okay no i'm not
02:45:12.340
sure i would need to look into do we want to give them a definition on this one just uh here's i think
02:45:18.500
this is andrew's definition uh a movement towards egalitarian with a rejection of patriarchy
02:45:26.780
okay so just equality yeah a movement towards equality which the form of equality we're talking
02:45:34.540
about here is egalitarianism um so that there's no confusion i use that word specifically because
02:45:41.240
egalitarianism is expressing that men and women are essentially interchangeable widgets
02:45:45.840
anything a man can do a woman should be able to do and anything a woman can do a man should be able to do
02:45:50.840
feminist yes no i'm still not sure i'd like to look into that more okay um pause what about you i think
02:46:02.120
yeah okay um i don't really know i think people can just do whatever they want i don't like if someone
02:46:14.380
wants to go like how do i word it equality yeah sure should that be a thing absolutely i don't think
02:46:23.200
it 100 is um at the same time i'm not going to put someone down for wanting to stay more
02:46:29.420
traditional and not be a part of a feministic movement are you feminist i don't do action
02:46:37.460
supporting one way or another i just live my life all right uh what about you i think i'd also have to
02:46:42.800
think about a little bit more but could i answer the second part of that what was it like comment
02:46:48.420
thing it was like talking more about like political views and who's the person you mean the previous
02:46:53.920
or no yeah the previous like comment well there was a question that can't we didn't go all the way
02:46:59.020
around the table we kind of started talking about america i think the question was uh democracy or
02:47:04.580
abortion so i don't think you had a chance to answer on that she's talking about that she's talking
02:47:10.120
about i know but why don't we just finish up that one then since she reminded me i don't think i have
02:47:14.160
a comment on that one you got to participate though to some degree in the show i mean this is
02:47:17.960
the second time i can participate because i want to talk about the education because we've already
02:47:23.040
moved off of the what do you mean the education homeschooling brian rachel did say that she'd like
02:47:29.180
to take the seat and uh discuss this very issue with uh with the dissenters uh if you'd like to see
02:47:36.500
that i'm happy to bring her down yeah i want to we can do that i just want to get through get caught
02:47:41.640
up on the chats no problem i'm just letting you know sure we can do that um so you had you wanted
02:47:47.060
to talk about the what like education like homeschooling versus um public school education
02:47:53.340
and that andrew that's what rachel wanted to come talk yeah well that because that moves into the
02:47:58.660
broader idea um as the gal said to i think from your perspective to your right she had said listen
02:48:05.500
we're talking about optimals and this type of thing um that's because it basically it opens up a
02:48:12.020
kind of broader conversation on the topic which is directly related to feminism and the idealism behind
02:48:18.160
it uh yeah we can come back to that but so i guess finishing up democracy or abortion abortion okay
02:48:26.220
i don't know what the question was oh if you so okay uh i guess
02:48:31.360
if you had to choose you can have one or the other you can keep democracy but you lose rights
02:48:38.640
to abortion or you can keep rights to abortion but you lose democracy abortion tiffany i don't really
02:48:47.700
care about either but i would go with democracy wait why don't you care you you don't care about
02:48:52.820
democracy just curious why no not really you're like a nationalist or wait not a national you're
02:48:58.420
some people's opinions matter more like a person who doesn't even know what the difference between
02:49:03.920
a country and a state is shouldn't be having the same weight on their vote for their vote okay
02:49:13.320
okay that's that's how it is in the u.s so what about me yeah on this question democracy or abortion
02:49:21.160
uh uh well i mean like i don't know kind of like if we got rid of democracy and then i could just be
02:49:28.820
dictator that would be kind of cool so i guess like i'd be down to be a dictator like authoritarian or
02:49:34.300
whatever me too so i'm like kind of if it's me that gets to become like the authority authoritarian
02:49:40.040
dictator what if no you don't you don't get to be oh yeah yeah i don't know that's a hard one then
02:49:45.760
uh i guess just like keep democracy then if i had to pick between one or the other um i'll move it on
02:49:52.380
just for the sake of time uh i did have one note here this came up in a previous conversation we won't
02:49:58.500
linger long uh you spend time in korea there's this uh thing that kind of propped up here recently in
02:50:05.380
the u.s related to something that's going on in korea the 4b movement are you familiar with this at all
02:50:10.400
i stay as far away from politics and anything to do with them as possible so i'll move on then uh we
02:50:17.940
do have a couple chats coming in there's quite a few guys sorry i'm trying to get to them as quick
02:50:23.660
tim underscore stokely underscore himself donated two hundred dollars what factors in your view have
02:50:31.880
led to declining birth rates in developed countries is this for the whole panel what factors in your
02:50:40.340
uh this this uh okay what factors in your view porn porn feminism
02:50:51.680
anybody else want to weigh in why why are the birth weight there's only one there's just one factor
02:50:58.480
that's it's very simple uh white anime pillows some prioritization in western nations and in other
02:51:06.040
nations adjacent to western nations that prioritize education during women's reproductive years rather
02:51:12.360
than prioritizing reproduction that's it that's the that's the whole the sum of the entire game that's it
02:51:18.620
all right tim stokely appreciate the tts thank you very much we have one from our good friend
02:51:31.480
lol paladins oh god lol paladins donated two hundred dollars and two cents thank you man just want to
02:51:38.980
point out the obvious craziness of this if a black 13 year old was shot by police it would be national
02:51:45.100
news she didn't see anything she is so full of it that's what happened right yes was it a white
02:51:53.000
police officer yes well how long ago was it when i was about 13 so like was it before before the
02:52:05.600
white officer shoots it 13 year old black kid who was roughhousing with his friends
02:52:16.060
is there a news article we can maybe find on this or was it just not it wasn't reported without
02:52:25.200
putting out the name of somebody whose family i'm sure wants the situation to be respected no i mean if
02:52:30.860
it's already like a public you don't have to share it but i mean if it's already out there in the
02:52:35.940
public it's already out there in the public but that's totally fine we have a couple more chats
02:52:39.760
coming through here we have lol paladins how dare you support women feeding their children andrew
02:52:46.000
you miss you disgusting misogynist they should have total freedom to go work for a corporation
02:52:51.480
while a man stays at home giving them formula purchased with her money all right well this is this is the
02:52:57.920
idea is like okay little johnny don't worry uh mommy needed to work so that's why i sent you out
02:53:04.420
with venezuela and you have all of these inflammation issues in your body right it seems like um seems like
02:53:09.600
a very stupid thing to do um and i did i mean i made the insistence uh yeah i definitely wanted to see
02:53:16.200
my kids at home and i wanted to make sure that they were breastfed absolutely so that they didn't have
02:53:21.780
those types of issues all right we have a tts coming in three more tracy on tilt donated 200
02:53:29.600
thank you tracy andrew your wife is a savage i strive to be as great of a woman that she is and
02:53:35.740
she is a role model to women like me it's great to see a woman like her defending our beliefs in this
02:53:41.860
modern world yo tracy on tilt thank you so much for the uh tts i really appreciate it thank you
02:53:47.560
rachel's rachel's great she's always been great yeah uh so thank you tracy on tilt that name's
02:53:52.560
familiar did you dm us recently uh but thank you so much really appreciate it we have three chats
02:53:57.400
coming in here uh we have joe murphy he says cena can i have you read the hundreds ladies you can
02:54:06.140
catch a refund on the first couple of 50 50 dates once offering sexual access a boat bow about and
02:54:14.160
children contrary contrary to popular sexual revolution you might you might land a good man
02:54:22.140
for life thank you joe murphy that was beautiful i agree you got to hit the bow definitely hit the
02:54:31.620
bow on the first should we uh bow we'll do the bow video a little later but uh okay joe murphy
02:54:37.240
he also says go ahead cena the issue with feminist group think you can't be a rock star mother and have
02:54:43.420
a career it's impossible choose one mission to maximize your ability if your mission is to be
02:54:48.960
the best mother that's from joe murphy thank you for the soup chat man really appreciate it thank you
02:54:53.600
um any disagreements from any of the panelists here
02:54:55.660
but what's a definition of like the best mother because i think my mom works and that made me a better
02:55:05.040
person because i see that she's ambitious and career driven one question on that uh what that would
02:55:11.480
make me feel like shit make me feel like she was prioritizing career over me
02:55:15.120
well your parents are still together yes uh and both of them work yes and do they in terms of uh the
02:55:23.400
income brought to the household is it about the same your dad more your mom more um my dad makes
02:55:30.020
more that makes more okay and she works full-time she does and what about when you were young do you
02:55:35.620
have siblings no i'm an only child just you okay yeah uh was she working full-time even when you
02:55:41.260
were younger or what was your experience growing up i think she took off time for like maternity leave
02:55:47.480
uh but she was working like majority of my childhood so prior to having you she was working full-time yeah
02:55:53.440
she was what's her job uh she works for the school district uh she like a secretary or what is she
02:55:59.080
like a counselor what does she do no she works she like manages um like a foreign language program
02:56:05.060
okay and she's working full-time yeah okay and how how much time did she take off a year i'm not
02:56:11.820
quite sure you don't recall okay yeah all right um andrew it sounded like you maybe had something or
02:56:16.960
yeah so i was just saying the i understand there could be circumstances where women need to work
02:56:24.340
for the production of income for a household there's no doubt about that um and by necessity
02:56:29.160
i think that good moms of course will do that what i'm saying is that if they don't actually have to
02:56:35.160
work they don't have to they're hedging their bets against their own future thinking that it's possible
02:56:40.220
that there could be a divorce something like this they want to fall back on some income or career that
02:56:44.560
they have then they're prioritizing themselves over the future of their own children and i think that
02:56:49.260
that's uh in many ways despicable but i think my mom like i feel like the fact that she had a job
02:56:59.940
not only made me realize that you know i need to be ambitious and want like a great career in the
02:57:07.000
future as well but then she also had the time to take care of me um that's not possible why is that
02:57:13.260
not possible how many hours a week does your mom work um like it's probably like the standard like
02:57:20.180
eight to five okay so she works eight to five which means that she had to outsource your care
02:57:26.200
from at least the hours of eight to five right okay but when you say outsource yes somebody else
02:57:32.640
besides her had to do it between the hours of eight to five yes so okay so my grandma raised me from
02:57:38.640
those hours that she wasn't home why is that why is that optimal why is that optimal as opposed to
02:57:44.240
your own mother because she is a great woman too that influenced my beliefs and why can't that be
02:57:52.020
optimal for somebody else was it was it necessary like did she necessarily need to work in order to
02:57:58.900
support you or was it a choice that she made because she wanted the extra income i don't think
02:58:04.500
well she always told me this i don't think she wanted to work because of the extra income because
02:58:09.560
quite frankly we were okay financially but yeah well then why was she prioritizing that over you
02:58:14.800
that's weird because work gives you a sense of fulfillment in terms of you know raising your
02:58:20.320
own children but she did raise me so you want to know she didn't you want to work in the future so
02:58:25.560
that your grandma raised you i think my mom or my mom worked right and she gave me
02:58:33.360
seeing her work and also being able to raise me and spend time with me didn't she didn't raise you
02:58:39.580
she outsourced half of your raising to somebody else or more she did raise me you're defining
02:58:46.420
raising as a 100 percent your grandma at least raised you from the hours of nine to five right
02:58:52.220
and she was a great influence on me so that was she wasn't not saying that your grandma wasn't a
02:58:56.620
great influence okay i'm just saying that she outsourced your raising to a person who was not her
02:59:02.120
from at least the hours of nine o'clock five o'clock right but you're saying that what is
02:59:06.780
optimal answer my question before you ask me one sorry could you repeat the question one more time
02:59:11.000
your grandma raised you at least from the hours of nine o'clock in the morning to five o'clock in
02:59:16.160
the evening is that correct correct so then somebody besides your mom was actually raising you
02:59:22.900
between at least most of the block of the day correct okay correct so if that is the case
02:59:30.820
then i don't know what you're disputing with me saying that your grandma's a good person i'm not
02:59:35.040
disputing that grandma's probably awesome i understand that but you're saying that out or
02:59:40.580
not outsourcing is optimal yes that would have been optimal for you correct but i think
02:59:47.420
outsourcing was the optimal way to raise me because why why why so you're saying that you would
02:59:53.380
prefer to have had less time with your mother during your formative year i'm not saying i would
02:59:57.440
have rather had less time but i also would you rather have more time with your mother or less
03:00:01.500
time with your mother i was happy the way i grew up because yeah can you answer my question though
03:00:05.740
can would you rather have less time with your mother in your formative years or more time with
03:00:09.760
your mother in your formative years there's no less or more i was happy with what i had so you
03:00:16.540
can't answer my question right because the answer is you'd rather have more time with your mother
03:00:21.100
during your formative years than you know it right i know but i actually liked that my grandma
03:00:26.660
raised me because now I have an established relationship with my grandma that I wouldn't
03:00:30.660
have had. You wouldn't have had an established relationship with your grandma anyway. What guarantees that?
03:00:34.380
If she didn't raise me during those years. Maybe your grandma wouldn't have come and visited you because your mom stayed home with you or what?
03:00:38.460
But I had a deeper connection with my grandma because I spent those
03:00:42.180
number of hours with her. Yeah, that's the problem, right? That's the bad thing. It's like that deeper connection
03:00:46.520
aspect. When you say I have a deeper connection with grandma than I have
03:00:50.300
potentially with my own mother, right? So that's the thing that I'm disputing here. It's like
03:00:54.000
I'm not saying that your grandma's not a wonderful person and didn't do everything
03:00:58.600
she could possibly do to raise you. I'm not saying anything like that at all. I'm just
03:01:02.440
pointing out that if a woman is to prioritize outsourcing your care
03:01:06.720
to somebody else, then it sounds like she's not prioritizing
03:01:10.240
you. She's letting somebody else prioritize you. And I think that
03:01:14.480
that's ultimately fairly selfish. But you can prioritize
03:01:18.600
multiple things. Why do you have to just take one? Yes, you can, but I think that a good
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mother prioritized her children above all things.
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I can see your perspective. I may not necessarily agree with it, but...
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Yeah, I think that that's fair. Like, listen, I understand
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that people come from all different walks of life and have all sorts of contributing
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circumstances to how they were raised. I most certainly did. I had a stay-at-home
03:01:42.360
dad rather than a stay-at-home mom because my father had multiple sclerosis. He couldn't work.
03:01:46.180
So he stayed at home with me. And those are the best years of my life. He was a fantastic
03:01:52.500
father, this type of thing. But always one of my parents was at home to take care of us. And
03:02:00.540
the reason that that was so important rather than outsourcing is because they valued us more
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in terms of what men certainly must find attractive
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Do you think that when it comes to finding a partner,
03:02:57.780
career goals will make you more attractive to men?
03:03:13.420
But you're saying, like, do you think it makes me more attractive?
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he's going to just be deemed as a more attractive partner to women
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if that's going to be, like, a substantial, like,
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is going to be, like, really attractive to women.
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Yeah, I think me being ambitious makes me attractive.
03:04:17.240
Your goals are related to your career, though, correct?
03:05:01.460
So, I don't really think that it applies to us either.
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He also has a history of alleged domestic violence.
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batongo thank you for the prime appreciate it guys thank you thank you mavs i think uh thank you for
03:36:33.500
i forgot if i thanked you mav for the prime appreciate it oh there she is in the flesh we
03:36:38.960
got rachel wilson in the building you wanted to talk about education did you have a you had
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something on the education thing that i think was related it was just like related to like
03:36:52.380
what it's a public school education just one sec really quick can uh yo ab check thank you for the
03:36:57.560
gifted 20 memberships really appreciate it what was your thing um just like public school education
03:37:03.280
versus homeschooling education okay well i'll let rachel take over for a little bit and let you
03:37:08.500
guys have the conversation so take it away rachel hello ladies hey brian thanks for having me on
03:37:14.780
uh well since you had something i'll just let you go first with what you wanted to say and i'll just
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respond oh me yeah i think oh didn't you say you had something about homeschool versus
03:37:27.400
public i just wanted to hear your um viewpoint on if you think that homeschooling education is better
03:37:33.460
or public school education is better and why so um well it's kind of funny you ask because i have
03:37:40.140
been homeschooling the kids for many years now um i did a little guest spot on tucker carlson's show
03:37:45.860
when he was still on fox to talk about the big spike in homeschooling during the pandemic
03:37:49.700
uh statistically homeschooled students do better overall like in pretty much every metric compared
03:37:56.720
to public school students um i think that there's a lot of big problems with public schooling now
03:38:03.520
not that it was ever great if you look into the history of public schooling and why it was started
03:38:07.940
and who started it uh it was never really about learning or making people smarter or preparing them
03:38:14.240
for adult life it was more so about preparing good little cogs in the wheel who were going to
03:38:20.880
follow you know the values of the state whatever the government wanted uh kids to do and it was
03:38:26.680
based on the prussian school system which was to make good soldiers for prussia so um i think
03:38:32.880
andrew's really spot on when he says school is not for smart people i think that's correct um
03:38:38.880
i think uh there's lots of ways to socialize kids and especially nowadays um there's homeschooling
03:38:45.880
co-ops homeschooling groups um there's more ways to connect and socialize than ever before and like
03:38:51.760
andrew said that our kids can do all the um like sports and the extracurricular activities they can
03:38:58.840
go to tech center vocational center all that kind of stuff so um it really just gives you the freedom
03:39:04.880
and with we have five kids so each kid has their own strengths their own weaknesses their own personality
03:39:11.460
their own way they prefer to learn one of the biggest weaknesses in public school is that
03:39:16.080
everybody you kind of have to cater to the lowest common denominator so if you're like a little
03:39:20.760
smarter you might have a hard time if you're somebody who has a different style of learning
03:39:24.880
that's not really adaptable to public school you're going to have a hard time
03:39:28.300
and especially boys uh public school is really catered to girls it's catered to girls doing stuff like
03:39:35.660
sitting still getting in line uh my cat's freaking out over there and he's trying to he's trying to
03:39:41.660
handle him but yeah so i i much prefer homeschooling for a lot of reasons we can get as much done in a
03:39:47.440
day at homeschool in about two hours as the kids would learn in you know seven hours of a regular
03:39:53.280
school day and i would say they retain a lot more of it and there's no need for like extra homework when
03:39:57.940
you get home things like that so i'm a huge homeschooling advocate and it's worked great for our
03:40:03.480
family i know that not every parent may be great at homeschooling but not every parent's a great
03:40:08.140
parent there's always going to be some people who don't do well regardless of what we're talking
03:40:12.940
about so yeah kind of where i would go with it i absolutely love your comment um i was just i think
03:40:20.160
it kind of like bothered me initially because i didn't really like the generalization that you know
03:40:25.400
homeschooling's best for everyone i think there are definitely like special cases like just like you said
03:40:30.880
like super super like geniuses or like prodigies like they should be homeschooled and you know develop
03:40:37.160
those talents and um knowledge but i think i went to public school um and then i also went to like a
03:40:44.880
small private school as well for high school and i just found so much or i feel like i learned so much
03:40:52.360
in public schools and private schools um not only kind of like obviously i think if i was homeschooled i may
03:40:59.740
have known more oh sorry he's over here wrestling the cat oh no worries i feel like maybe that would
03:41:08.000
have gone me like academically like further but i feel that the social um benefits like the socialization
03:41:16.460
was enhanced i guess in a way in public schooling because you know you're going to school every day
03:41:23.580
and you're forced to socialize so i feel like that grew my socialization skills um whereas i feel that
03:41:31.920
like homeschooling yes you can you know do activities like extracurriculars but you're not seeing the same
03:41:38.540
people every day because like you know soccer practice is like three times a week but i think there's a few
03:41:44.820
things you're not thinking about like for example uh most children's first exposure to violence is in a
03:41:50.660
public school uh public schools are more prone to violence um child sa incidents happening than even
03:41:59.440
private schools churches pretty much any other place uh schools are pretty dangerous on average now
03:42:06.240
and uh you then you have all of the indoctrination with certain gender ideologies like at least when i'm
03:42:13.060
homeschooling my child i know they're not going to come back a different gender right um they're gonna
03:42:18.060
they're gonna still be a girl if they were a girl that morning i'm not gonna put them on the bus and
03:42:22.400
they're gonna come back a boy so there's that um and the other thing is that we've only had compulsory
03:42:28.160
public education for about a century all of human history prior to that nobody had public school do you
03:42:34.940
think that people weren't socialized of course they were and one of the problems when we were talking
03:42:39.300
about women in the workplace and working moms earlier we used to have community uh everywhere
03:42:45.780
throughout all of history children were raised by their mothers but not just their mothers the
03:42:50.840
all the women were at home with the kids so mom had her sisters and her cousins and her neighbors and
03:42:55.880
her friends who were all also raising their children and so it was kind of done all together
03:43:01.180
everybody wasn't isolated you didn't have uh little boy number one in high school little daughter
03:43:06.580
number two in junior high and then mommy goes to work in her building and daddy goes to work in his
03:43:10.920
building and everybody's separated and atomized and then we have to try to come back together
03:43:15.160
for two hours at the end of the day before we all go to bed uh the socialization thing was never a
03:43:21.120
problem it's only a problem now because yeah the parents aren't home the family's not around
03:43:25.700
all the women are in cubicles so it's everything has changed so much in a century that it's it is tough
03:43:33.500
to talk about because all of you especially grew up in this modern world with the internet and with
03:43:39.300
working parents and strong independent boss moms who told you that the most important thing to do
03:43:44.360
was be uh ambitious and have a career right but i want to ask you guys a question what do you think
03:43:49.460
about this so do you guys think that the feminists who came before you or the strong independent women
03:43:55.600
you know your grandmas and your great grandmas did they fight for the right to be career women
03:44:01.100
and go to college like is that something that you think they had to fight for that was worth fighting for
03:44:06.460
okay we'll just start over here and chair one and go around do you think that it was a good thing
03:44:12.820
that women you know did they fight for their right to work and be educated and be independent
03:44:18.560
and was that a good thing yes i think they did and i think it was a good thing yes okay what about
03:44:26.160
number two i agree yes they did fight for it because they didn't get it in the past and it is a good
03:44:32.960
thing okay okay number three i agree same okay um my family definitely did fight i am from thailand
03:44:44.340
and a lot of um jobs are like either like you're a farmer or you work for the government so to them
03:44:52.600
school is very important whether it's homeschooling or private school or public school um and i have a
03:44:59.700
different viewpoint from my family completely because i don't think that um people who are
03:45:05.760
like can be successful and intelligent should always be in school i have family members who
03:45:12.420
never finished high school even college and they are thriving making a lot of money because they have
03:45:18.940
learned um like actual life skills things that you are not taught when you're in school
03:45:26.080
a good point okay what about number five um i think my family did i'd say overall it's a good thing
03:45:34.600
but i do think that some people didn't necessarily they may have fought too for it but maybe they
03:45:42.740
weren't fighting for themselves because i can recognize that plenty of people don't want to
03:45:46.280
have to go do that but nowadays you're expected to so i think it's definitely a mixture okay
03:45:55.000
what about you i think it's a mixture as well but i think some women did fight um to have you know
03:46:03.420
a career okay um i would say yes in india you know it's at least back then or when my mom grew up it
03:46:13.420
wasn't always a guarantee you get an education there's a range marriage you're expected to have
03:46:17.680
children she always wanted what's best for me and she's always been pushing me to get an education
03:46:23.240
um build a life for myself so i agree that um i think the the fight was for good and it is still
03:46:33.220
good now it's still applicable now wait was the question whether women fought for our education or
03:46:39.220
not or if it was a good thing women do you think that women had to fight for the right to be able to
03:46:44.120
have careers and do you think that was good um i guess historically women did fight i'm i'm kind of
03:46:54.660
torn on the good or bad part because i do believe in equal opportunity but i think it was overall a
03:47:03.180
detriment to society that women were sent to work okay i'm going to follow that up with a second
03:47:11.320
question so if women fought for the right to work and have careers and be able to be independent have
03:47:16.920
their own money and have an education do you think that it's a privilege for a woman to be able to stay
03:47:22.860
home with their children like if if i said oh well i stay home with my kids and my husband works would
03:47:28.120
you say well not all women have that privilege so is it i'm asking is it a privilege to be a stay-at-home
03:47:33.980
mom or is it are you oppressed if you're a stay-at-home mom
03:47:37.300
i think um people would look at it both ways personally i think it is a privilege because
03:47:47.600
as we were talking about earlier you know like she also said just now um most women were forced
03:47:54.480
to go to work which they didn't want to they wanted to stay home um so in that case it would
03:47:59.140
be a privilege but then for other cases it would be oppression but i would think it was a privilege
03:48:05.040
okay number two what do you think i agree i think it is a privilege for a woman to stay at home
03:48:12.200
but also i also think it depends on the woman like whether or not you want to like if the man is able to
03:48:20.260
be the one providing okay what about three um i think if your husband makes enough to where
03:48:31.720
you guys can do that i think that's a pretty good thing i think it's a privilege
03:48:35.740
okay what about number four i think if you're yes your husband is wealthy enough to support you and
03:48:45.280
your entire family and you can just stay at home take care of your kids like not really have to
03:48:50.840
worry about making money yourself in your career then that is a privilege okay i think overall i think
03:48:59.800
it's a privilege at the same time i know that if i had a child while i'd want to be able to stay
03:49:05.680
home with them and especially their more formative years i also would need some sort of other work
03:49:11.680
beyond just my kid because i wouldn't want to just feel like i lost myself
03:49:15.500
okay number six yeah i think sorry guys i don't have your names here so i'm just going by your chair
03:49:22.480
number um it always like depends on the case but i think it's a privilege in some cases as mentioned
03:49:28.180
before um yes i i think it's a privilege to stay at home i think it's a wonderful thing to be
03:49:35.320
stay at home all my housewife if your husband can support it then yeah a privilege
03:49:40.920
privilege okay so i want you guys to think about the fact that when we went around with both those
03:49:46.260
questions everybody said yes women had to fight for the right to be able to get an education and have
03:49:52.160
a career and then everyone also said but if you can stay home with your children you are privileged
03:49:57.920
how could that be the case how could it be both how could it be that uh you had to fight you know
03:50:04.700
women had to fight and blaze a trail and a path to be able to work outside the home and have their
03:50:09.740
own money and careers but also if you can stay home with your children that you're privileged
03:50:14.920
because wouldn't they only have been fighting for the right to have careers and education if they
03:50:19.540
were oppressed before when they were staying at home by the way i want to mention something else
03:50:23.700
in all my research in every culture around the world there has never been any law i'm aware of
03:50:31.360
where women were expressly forbidden from working so if you have this idea that women weren't
03:50:37.000
allowed to work or women weren't allowed to be educated there may be some countries like india
03:50:42.000
where perhaps uh girls can't go to school or parts of africa but i'm mainly talking about the western
03:50:47.660
world in america where where we all are uh women have always been allowed to work but before feminism
03:50:55.380
and before the industrial revolution it didn't make sense why because if you had the like the average
03:51:01.920
woman in the year 1800 had seven children seven births probably a few of them might not make it
03:51:06.720
to adulthood but if you had seven births why on earth would you want a career outside the house i
03:51:12.080
mean like why would you what are you going to do pay daycare for seven kids and here's the other thing
03:51:17.000
you guys are talking about um women should have a career if they're going to be moms and uh we can just
03:51:23.040
pay daycare or have family come in and it's like you realize that that's really stupid and here's why
03:51:30.260
because how does it make sense for me to say you know what i'm a mom but i deserve a career and i
03:51:36.300
i'm ambitious and i have career goals and i need to be able to work so i'm going to hire this other
03:51:41.500
woman to come in and do the mothering for eight or nine hours a day while i'm gone well what about
03:51:46.240
that woman she doesn't deserve a career you're just all you're doing is shifting the stuff over right
03:51:53.980
so earlier somebody said um you know well why can't the dad stay home i want to know what you
03:52:00.840
guys think about that what do you guys think it's the same if dad stays home do you think that it's
03:52:06.100
just as good if dad's staying home if everybody did that it'd be fine um can we address the entire
03:52:13.880
question or would you like sure okay whatever you guys want to say we can just kind of open it up
03:52:18.340
so um i kind of see like i see what you're saying it's kind of like a we look like we want to have
03:52:25.180
our cake and eat it too kind of concept but it's more so as i would say i think it is um that we
03:52:34.200
fight to go to work so that we have money to pay bills we have money to put food on the table and
03:52:39.200
do things like that that's why we get our jobs but then we would also like to be at home and stay
03:52:45.880
with our children and stuff like that so i see it in your way but then i also see it in mine
03:52:50.800
and um your other question was i'm sorry well do you think that it's the same if dad stays home
03:52:57.440
because that was something that came up earlier in the panel because i don't remember which one of
03:53:01.240
you said it to andrew but you were like well why can't the dad just stay home why does it have to be
03:53:05.080
me and why should it be mom that stays home do you think well i think personally um the dad can stay
03:53:14.360
home as well i think either either as long as there is a parent present it's you know great
03:53:20.840
both ways so what do you think would happen if society-wide let's say that you know women are
03:53:27.280
strong and they're rising they're getting more college degrees than men are today which by the
03:53:31.540
way that's not very new uh women have had higher literacy rates and higher high school graduation rates
03:53:36.500
in the united states since we started tracking those numbers in 1790 and i'll i can get to why later but
03:53:43.720
what if we shifted everything and suddenly the next generation 80 percent of the children are
03:53:49.780
raised by the dads the dads stay home and the moms go to work do you think that that would work for
03:53:55.600
society like on a society-wide level i see number two shaking her head no why do you think that might
03:54:03.380
not work because i believe that if your kid is raised like from a mother or a father it's different
03:54:15.060
like there's some stuff that a mother can't provide that a father can provide but there's also a lot of
03:54:20.880
stuff that a father can't provide that a mother can that's true but it's even simpler than that
03:54:28.460
do you know what the top 20 most important and dangerous jobs are like if you look at job statistics
03:54:35.860
the top 20 jobs that we need the most that that are most important to keeping this whole
03:54:41.900
infrastructure running so you guys are all sitting here in a studio there's lights there's camera
03:54:46.160
there's it's a concrete building you're up on the you know you're up in this building with windows
03:54:51.380
and there's electricity we have internet right all this infrastructure is built by men so all of the
03:54:58.840
stuff you need to keep society running logging engineering concrete mixing and laying all forms
03:55:05.860
of construction power line work uh cell phone towers everything infrastructure related those are the most
03:55:13.900
dangerous the most difficult and the most important jobs and they are occupied by anywhere from
03:55:21.180
80 to 99 men like if you look at concrete work it's 99.8 men women don't lay concrete do you think
03:55:30.960
that society would keep going if we had all the concrete layers at home raising the kids what if
03:55:35.800
all of the men who run the telecommunications your cell phone your wi-fi your high-speed internet what
03:55:42.480
if all the men who build those systems fix them when they go down what if they were all at home raising
03:55:47.840
babies what if all of the power linemen the guys who go out like we just had this massive bunch of
03:55:52.640
hurricanes in the southeast and knocked out the power to all of appalachia and all of florida for
03:55:57.640
a couple of weeks all the people who go in there and rebuild that and rescue people from the floods and
03:56:02.880
rebuild everything that's all men so what do you think would happen if we had an economy where all the
03:56:09.440
women went to work and the men stayed home do you know what the top 20 jobs occupied by women are
03:56:14.300
they're the same top 20 jobs occupied by women a hundred years ago so if you look at the top 20
03:56:21.320
most female jobs in 1920 and the top 20 most female jobs in 2020 they're almost exactly the same all we
03:56:28.520
did was swap hr and farm work so more women did like small time farm work back then and more of them do
03:56:35.460
hr now but other than that women are like early childhood educators teachers nurses bookkeeping retail
03:56:42.200
workers food service industry workers things like that so you men and women are not interchangeable
03:56:50.080
moms and dads are not interchangeable so this idea that like oh i can be a strong independent boss babe
03:56:56.080
and i'll just outsource the child care or dad can just stay home you could argue that that's fine on
03:57:02.340
some individual levels but if we make this the like society-wide expectation everything that allows you
03:57:08.720
girls to think that you are strong independent boss babes who can do it on your own crumbles it
03:57:13.560
disappears it turns to dust there's no more wi-fi there's no more electricity kiss your air conditioning
03:57:19.980
goodbye there's nobody to fix your car when it breaks you don't have gasoline because there's no oil
03:57:24.520
rig workers you know getting the gas that you use to drive your car so basically this is all kind of
03:57:31.920
delululand stuff this idea that like oh we can just do whatever we want it's just depends on my
03:57:37.580
personal preference and you know it'll all be fine so i mean a lot of what andrew tries to get you guys
03:57:43.920
to think about is what you want on a personal level is not the only question here it's not the only moral
03:57:49.960
question it's not it's not the only thing to consider there's a greater good society has to work
03:57:55.740
together as a whole so i know i just threw a lot at you but does anybody have anything they want to
03:58:00.840
jump in on um with me specifically my mom actually had to hide her pregnancy because in thailand when
03:58:10.940
you are found out that you are having a baby or has a baby you have to stop working completely and
03:58:17.760
you're expected to take care of the child and then later your expected child is supposed to help
03:58:23.800
support your family okay i mean i'm not sure if i would say that's good or bad there are some like
03:58:35.660
ethical issues or concerns i would have when we're discussing like kind of christian societies versus
03:58:41.120
non-christian societies and that's like a whole other topic but in general i would say that pregnant
03:58:47.220
women nursing mothers mothers of young children should be at home with those children if you look
03:58:52.160
at the statistics in 1940 only about six percent of american women who had children under five
03:58:58.700
worked outside the home now that number is like 58 it's like super high most little babies and little
03:59:06.760
children's moms spend most of their day at the office and as a mother 95 95 of all the time you'll
03:59:14.600
ever spend with your child is gone by the time they turn 18 you don't ever get those years back you don't
03:59:21.160
ever get to do that over you don't ever get that time so to me you're you're taking a precious finite
03:59:27.640
gift that you have you're taking this this limited time of your life a short time in your life that you
03:59:33.740
get to spend raising your own children and you're giving it away to somebody else some 11 12 an hour
03:59:39.900
daycare worker because you think being in the office is more important and i understand completely that
03:59:46.320
we're brainwashed and propagandized to think that i was told all the time from the time i was little
03:59:51.180
you have to go to college you have to have a career you have to have your own money because if you don't
03:59:56.060
what what do they say will happen to you if you don't have your own money if you don't have your own
04:00:00.300
job what's going to happen you'll get trapped a man could abuse you what if he leaves you what if he
04:00:09.040
dies what if he cheats but nobody ever asks uh wait what if i spend all of my years going to college
04:00:15.400
to be a surgeon right i want to be a neurosurgeon like a really important job i'm shooting for the
04:00:21.500
stars nobody ever says well wait a second what if you get in an accident and uh you know your arm gets
04:00:28.440
broken and you can't do surgery or what if you get arthritis and you can't use the scalpel anymore like
04:00:33.740
what if your eyesight goes bad and you can no longer perform surgery nobody fear mongers women
04:00:39.260
about all the things that can go wrong when you base your whole life around your career they only
04:00:44.740
fear monger women about what could go wrong if they base their life around being a wife and mother
04:00:49.500
and i just think you guys probably don't ever get a chance to hear anybody say that to you so i wanted
04:00:55.740
the chance to say it i actually really appreciate hearing a different perspective um and i
04:01:03.700
feel like you're very like well-knowledged so it's very interesting um what do you have to say
04:01:08.580
so thank you i just wanted to say that yeah thanks i'm glad that you guys wanted to listen but if
04:01:13.900
anybody has like an objection or like a a counter-argument or you're listening to me and you're
04:01:18.460
like well wait a minute but what about this rachel or what about that you know i'm happy to hear it if
04:01:23.600
you have any objections or other thoughts about that i think that it is perfectly fine like i agree
04:01:30.600
with your viewpoint you know you should be there in your child's formative years um i also think that
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i want a choice that where maybe i don't know if i see a future with having kids in it and if i want
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to be that neurosurgeon if i want to be an anesthesiologist whatever that i can do that without
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having to worry about someone saying you're wasting all your childbearing years or you want to be a
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stay-at-home wife like i mean i like i said again i my mom's a stay-at-home mom i love her um i think
04:02:01.960
being a stay-at-home mom's like amazing but i also think that a lot of women um their their mothers
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weren't allowed to have the choice to do what they want or be who they wanted because they were raising
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them and i think that if they you know maybe they don't want kids and they do want to pursue their
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career goals that they should be free too okay so you guys were talking earlier about south korea and
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how it has the lowest birth rate on planet earth right now which it does it's like 1.6 child per
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woman uh but did you know that the whole world except for a handful of african countries and israel
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are well below replacement and have been for a long time if you guys follow elon musk on twitter
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he's probably the most famous person who's talked a lot about the birth rate collapse and what it could
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mean um and so basically in in the year 2024 we've got uh planet-wide logistics that have
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pretty much wiped out hunger the only places where there's still hunger there's um kind of like
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extenuating circumstances reasons why that's still a problem but in all the developed nations like
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nobody has starved to death in the united states for many decades it's not a thing and the reason that's
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the case is because we had this big population boom during the industrial revolution another baby boom
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after world war ii and with all of the time and human capital and um brilliance of people problem
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solving and just more people in general we've been able to eradicate a lot of problems we used to have
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with things like hunger getting resources where they need to go if we experience population collapse
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which we are if it keeps going where it's going now we're going to start having problems and we're
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already seeing that so supply chains we're already seeing some supply chain failures because there's
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simply not enough labor we don't have enough people it's one of the reasons there's so much
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illegal immigration but even the places where those illegal immigrants were coming from their populations
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are now well below replacement rates so we're running out of people to even import places like japan and
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canada don't have enough young people to uh support the elderly populations there's just not enough
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young people to you know pay into the social security system or work at nursing homes or work
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in senior health care to take care of the elderly so again we can say it's really nice oh i want the
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chance to follow my dream of being a neurosurgeon and i'm sure there's always going to be some women
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who do that but let me ask how many of the women here have a college degree everybody raise your hand if
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you got a degree there's oh a lot of you okay what's your degree and just go around and just tell me
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real quick what your degree is in to start i have my associates in social and behavioral sciences
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okay and next um just associates okay in what what field um in like mathematical
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okay uh next number five do you have a psychology but i don't really intend to use my degree i just
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wanted to get it yeah psychology is probably the most oversaturated and most female field at the
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moment so it's tough to get a good paying job and then next what's yours i'm currently obtaining a
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ba in psych and brain okay and next health science health sciences okay next uh poli sci and econ
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okay uh are all of you so one of you said you're not intending to work in the field are the rest of
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you all intending to have careers in the field you're getting a degree in
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okay and did you probably most of you said yes did you notice that it's usually the same stuff like
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i was saying it's like health care it's psychology it's like behavioral stuff um most of you aren't
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going to be like structural engineers most of you aren't going to be like building life-saving
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medical devices or you know any of those like super essential jobs um i mean nursing there's some
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things you could argue are pretty essential but men could do those jobs too so why would it not be
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smarter to have all of you ladies here if we had raised you different if we had raised you to say
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being a virtuous woman who is a good mother and a good wife and a good caretaker and a good member
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of the community you know you're doing all the community stuff women used to do like uh organizing
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community functions and church things and uh programs for kids and just all those support roles that
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women used to do would it be a better world if we were raising all of you girls to do that instead
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of raising you to start your only fans uh go to college earn a degree by the way i bet a lot of
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you have some college debt the average woman has like forty thousand dollars in college debt after
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she graduates so now you're having to go into your 20s with a whole bunch of debt and a degree that
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you may or may not be able to find a job in that you may or may not like the job right and you're
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forgoing all of the childbearing years to chase that stuff do you think that that's like a net
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positive do you think that's a smart like if you were king of the nation or queen of the nation
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would that be how you'd want to organize things um can i say i just wanted to say that i get why
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you're asking this line of question i just don't see it being um asked to men a lot like why did you
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choose to be a neurosurgeon why don't you just you know do this line of work and said why do you
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choose to be ambitious like i feel like it's so directed at women like why did you choose to
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like um leave your virtuous women duties and pursue a career but i really don't see that
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costum and i i understand why you know i understand there's traditional duties assigned to men and
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women but you know society's changed and i i don't understand why we still have to go through this line
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questioning well i'll tell you why because the current state of things is completely unsustainable
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people ask me all the time what do you think is going to happen how do we battle feminism how do
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we battle the problems of in modernity that we have with falling birth rates and broken families
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high divorce rates and people not even bothering to get married anymore and nobody having babies what
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do you what should we do rage how do we fix this and i'm like it's a self-correcting problem
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because this situation is totally unsustainable the future if everybody turns out if all the young
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women are raised like you girls and they have your mentality and this is not a dig at any one of you
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individually because i understand exactly the world you were raised in the propaganda you were raised with
04:08:37.740
everything from pop music to movies to every tv show you've ever watched tells you you need to be a
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strong independent woman and have a career and follow your dreams and all that stuff i get it
04:08:48.180
but the future if everybody follows your path is there is no future there's no world because there's
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no people there's nobody to keep the lights on uh and humanity dies out and the reason why when you
04:09:02.100
say why do we have to endure this line of questioning it's because only one of us can have the babies
04:09:07.320
the men can't have the babies they can't just date a child for nine months and birth it and nurse it
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and raise it and we need the men to be making the world livable for the only people who can do that
04:09:19.900
which is women so all of the other jobs all the careers we've talked about those careers exist to
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support one occupation one purpose which is being a mother the world around you the reason it's built
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is so that future generations can be born that's the only reason for it what good is a world full of
04:09:40.180
technology and robots and wi-fi and electricity if no one's going to be born into it if if we're
04:09:46.400
having like one child per woman in fact in the united states we have uh rising mortality rates for the
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first time since the industrial revolution we're the only developed nation in the world that has rising
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mortality rates meaning more women are dying in childbirth than years past it's on the rise why would
04:10:05.840
that be anybody take a guess as to why mothers would be dying more in childbirth in america now
04:10:12.180
than they were the last like 60 70 years they start having babies later on their life you got it that's
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exactly right the rising uh maternal age is the reason for that so having babies when you're 35 plus
04:10:25.960
is a lot riskier it's a lot riskier to the mom it's riskier to the child and what happens when we train
04:10:30.840
women to do education and career first and then think about family when they're in their 30s 40s
04:10:35.960
you maybe get one to two children that's it so i understand on an individual level you might be
04:10:43.140
annoyed and be like well but my dream of uh you know whatever you wanted to do i think you said uh some
04:10:49.060
kind of health care related field i mean that's cool and everything but you won't have a world there
04:10:55.320
won't be a world left for you to do anything in if we don't have kids so i've asked this question
04:11:00.760
before but i want to ask you guys going around if if it was the case that you had a choice you could
04:11:09.040
either do what you want with your life you could follow your dreams and have a career or and if you
04:11:14.000
do that if all of you did that the human race dies out in 300 years from now or if all of you decide
04:11:21.040
okay we're going to have children and be moms but you don't get to chase your personal dreams and your
04:11:27.080
your career goals and your material ambitions but the human race gets to survive which would you pick
04:11:33.460
personally i would choose my career just because i don't want children and although that doesn't really
04:11:45.420
matter to this exact question i think that we're all gonna die at some point and i mean if you're
04:11:54.400
not living your life for you then what are you living it for i mean i don't know that's my personal
04:11:59.120
opinion though everybody else can be different all right what what about number two well you said
04:12:06.840
something earlier about how like it's mainly men who are doing the engineering and like the lighting
04:12:13.460
and stuff but i i'm currently in engineering and there there's been like a lot of women in
04:12:20.020
engineering too and this might be like a sidetrack but what would happen like to those women who are
04:12:26.420
chasing after that degree would they just not achieve it then yeah so in the hypothetical scenario i just laid
04:12:35.200
out yeah um i'm just asking you personally if if they came to you and they said look ladies we're
04:12:41.300
recruiting moms because otherwise we're projecting that humanity is going to die out in 300 years
04:12:46.420
so we're asking you please stay home and have children but i mean we're going to let you choose
04:12:51.460
your career if that's what you want to do but if you do do that if most of you do that you know we only
04:12:56.440
got about 300 years left before humanity dies out what would you choose and i'll answer the question
04:13:01.280
about what would happen to the other women in a minute i would stay home and take care of my children
04:13:08.720
i don't know i feel like that's a really really tough thing to decide on but
04:13:17.780
i feel like okay can i ask you a question and then depending on your answer do you think it's
04:13:28.000
smarter for women to have their kids and then once they hit 18 then start a life or do you think a
04:13:36.020
woman's life should just be raising her kids i think we give women uh bad advice because we tell them
04:13:43.720
to do everything backwards i think it's inverted so i think uh you should spend your early adulthood
04:13:49.440
finding a good husband and having your family and once your kids get older say your youngest is like
04:13:56.120
10 or 12 you can start making moves toward okay maybe i want to do this you know once they're out
04:14:01.620
of school maybe uh once they're all grown up and moved out maybe i want to do this occupation or i
04:14:06.440
want to go to college for this yeah you can start like going part-time to college paying it a piece
04:14:10.220
at a time you can start preparing yourself for other things because there's a lot of life after i'm 44
04:14:14.560
years old uh my oldest two are in their 20s and moved out the youngest two are still at home
04:14:19.680
and so i can do some stuff like this you know now i have a book that i wrote and i can come on and
04:14:25.140
talk to you guys i can do some more fun things but i put in you know what uh about 18 years of
04:14:32.560
child raising before i really got to that and everybody told me i was doing it wrong they were
04:14:37.680
like oh you're oh it's such a shame your life's going to turn out horrible you're you're making
04:14:42.660
the wrong choice you're going to regret it you're going to wish that you had your own money and your
04:14:45.820
own job and blah blah blah blah it's that's not how it turned out for me and i think that all women
04:14:51.260
could do it that way and they did like we have a lot of uh incorrect ideas about what life was like
04:14:56.600
for women before feminism they weren't all chained to stove and not allowed to leave the house and all
04:15:01.120
that shit that's all baloney but what i what i'm trying to get at here is like each of you when we
04:15:07.520
talk about which choice you'd make like the career or the babies we've asked this before and i'll let
04:15:13.840
you keep going around but usually it ends up being well i'm going to do what makes me happy
04:15:17.260
and if humanity dies it dies but men don't ever even really get that choice men don't ever
04:15:24.600
even contemplate that men are like well the world needs to be built you know men don't get value just
04:15:30.820
from being cute like you guys could do nothing you could just sit there and every word that comes out
04:15:36.180
of your mouth can be absolutely r-worded and you can be total airheads and be totally good for nothing
04:15:41.240
and as long as you're cute some man is going to love you and pay your bills and give you whatever you
04:15:45.740
want and do whatever he needs to do to make you happy men don't have that men have to provide value
04:15:51.420
or nobody gives a shit about them and even when they do provide value people still don't give a
04:15:55.900
shit about them men have always been expendable they're always going to be expendable according
04:16:00.380
to the world that's just how it is so men know like well if the concrete needs to be laid i'm gonna
04:16:05.800
lay the concrete if the power lines are down i'm gonna go outside and like figure out how to get them
04:16:09.840
back up men don't have this idea that there's no duty for them and that their life is just about
04:16:15.500
them and what they want to pursue it's just not like how how the male mindset works and the way
04:16:20.820
we raise women now it didn't used to be that way but the way we raise it now most young women have
04:16:26.700
no like if i asked you what's a duty you have to the world outside yourself i doubt you'd have anything
04:16:32.380
for me but if anybody does please let me know does anybody here think they have a duty to society
04:16:38.140
outside of themselves isn't it to birth kids and take care of them to produce more like to grow the
04:16:45.680
human humanity or whatever i would say that's what i would say i'd say we have a duty to continue the
04:16:52.500
human race but in times past when i've asked girls on this panel that question they all say no they say
04:16:59.280
i don't have a duty to have kids you can't tell me i gotta have kids chair one said she doesn't really
04:17:03.140
want kids uh the girl over here in the green top said she probably doesn't want kids how many of you
04:17:09.160
want kids okay a few of you do and several of you don't so i mean that would be great if women were
04:17:18.840
doing their duty but they're not they're the average american woman's having like 1.8 kids
04:17:23.920
and childlessness will reach an all-time unprecedented high within the next seven years the majority of
04:17:30.760
women of fertile age will not have children and will just be working in the future that's a huge
04:17:36.500
problem and i think that it's a big mistake to raise women and train them to have this mindset that
04:17:43.120
well it's just about me and what i want it's about me and my dreams and it's about
04:17:46.720
like don't you think that that's probably like a bad idea anybody
04:17:52.880
i think it might be a little unfair to put this extreme ultimatum on us that like um i get it what
04:18:02.980
you're saying you know the population has to go on i just don't want to like put this question on me
04:18:08.240
that like oh i'm not doing my part in saving humanity i just i don't know we might not want
04:18:13.780
to but that's reality and you know we so what if um men just what if we had a panel of men and they
04:18:20.540
were all like yeah you know what i really want to do i want to start my world of warcraft guild i'm
04:18:27.120
just really passionate about warcraft you know and i really don't feel like i should have to get up and
04:18:32.500
go to work and run things i just really don't feel like you know i know the water treatment plants need
04:18:37.840
somebody to like provide clean drinking water but what about me and my dreams what about me and my
04:18:42.720
goals do you think that society would be like well that's okay uh george don't worry about it just
04:18:48.940
just concentrate on your warcraft guild and if people start dying from you know untreated drinking
04:18:54.180
water fuck them you know i mean it's just like it's fine to sit there and say well i don't think this
04:19:00.320
is fair to me but that's completely delusional that's not reality
04:19:03.940
yeah i mean life isn't life isn't fair where'd you get this idea that like you should just be
04:19:11.300
able to do what you want and it's all about you i i mean i agree with that statement life isn't fair
04:19:17.380
i just i want to do what i want i mean if that involves being selfish and you know signing away
04:19:23.040
humanity so be it okay so why should a man marry you then that's your mindset if that's your attitude
04:19:29.260
why would any man on this planet ever marry you any guy who ever dates you should watch this podcast
04:19:35.040
wait and hear what you just said before i before you give it uh rachel the answer can you just repeat
04:19:41.080
that one more time just the way you said it what something about well i'm selfish and if
04:19:49.780
humanity has to wither away so i can get what i want so so i'm so selfish for pursuing a nursing degree
04:19:57.640
wanting to help others i'm very selfish and if i want to sign away humanity so be it if so if the
04:20:04.400
entailment is that humanity cease to ceases to exist but you get what you want uh fair trade-off
04:20:15.060
sure and like i said like i said you can you can do that it's a free country it's a free but if i
04:20:23.760
were any man who was gonna date you i would hear you say that and i would be like nope because this
04:20:28.640
chick is not gonna be loyal she's not gonna think about me she's gonna put herself first
04:20:32.240
she doesn't really care as long as she gets what she wants and she thinks that that's fine you can
04:20:37.600
go as far as to refer them to this podcast and put them on any future dating profile that i said this
04:20:43.620
and i literally will not give it like i'm just saying that like um my main goal in life is not to be
04:20:50.920
um a stay-at-home wife um or uh like uh a good wife or any for that matter of the fact i don't
04:21:00.480
want to like what's your goal if i never marry a man then so be it so i don't know what you are
04:21:06.560
saying with the whole um who wants to marry you i don't think i ever put it out that i want to marry
04:21:12.980
someone so all right so what's your what's your goal what's this big dream you have that's
04:21:19.380
worth you know humanity has to die i never get married i end up alone it's fine because i have
04:21:24.720
my dream what's the dream i mean i i like i like nursing i want to be a nurse anesthesiologist i want
04:21:33.140
to help out in the or room and with surgeries um i know that you're asking this as a hypothetical
04:21:39.000
question i just don't really think that the entire world revolves around me and what i do
04:21:44.920
um and so i i don't know where you're getting this oh i have to you know sign away humanity and like
04:21:51.260
end the world i know i know but you're putting these pretty heavy ultimatums on me that was the
04:21:56.740
common mindset we'd all be screwed but but let's just take you let's just say okay all the other women
04:22:02.160
are going to have the babies and you're the only one who decides not to uh how long do you think
04:22:07.680
being an or nurse anesthesiologist is going to be fun and fulfilling for you for the rest of my life
04:22:13.600
as long as i want it to be and then i'll travel i don't i i honestly i mean as as of right now i'm
04:22:20.940
not saying my viewpoint won't change later i just like having kids and being um a wife isn't my goal
04:22:27.420
it's not my dream and you know this is america we can say what we want and do what we want and
04:22:32.320
that's what i'm saying oh yeah i'm saying you absolutely can of course you have the option
04:22:38.500
i'm not going to stop you i'm not suggesting that anyone pass a law that prevents you from
04:22:43.340
following your dream of being an or nurse anesthesiologist but as someone much older than
04:22:49.600
you i'm going to tell you right now i will be shocked i will eat my hat if in 20 years you come
04:22:54.300
back to me and you say oh my gosh you were so wrong rachel being an or nurse anesthesiologist is
04:23:00.780
everything i thought it would be i love the grind it's so much fun it's so fulfilling for me i'm sure
04:23:07.140
i'm glad that i never got married and had a family because now like i can do this and travel
04:23:13.100
like i'll i'll just be shocked because all everybody 20 or 25 ogle donated 200 thank you
04:23:21.280
seven just disqualified herself from any future partner live on air if humanity ceases to exist but
04:23:27.880
i get what i want it's a fair trade off wtf thank you ogle we have another one coming in also from
04:23:34.440
ogle appreciate the uh tts do you have a response to ogle who said i want any man live on air
04:23:40.180
um disqualified herself from any future partner live on air
04:23:44.880
oval donated two hundred dollars chair seven wants to be an anesthesiologist but also doesn't
04:23:54.860
care about humans continuing to exist low-key scary combo
04:23:59.420
if you were like doing a surgery on like trump like would you like fuck up his anesthesia
04:24:06.280
no that's obviously not the duty of any health care worker is to treat every single person as
04:24:12.900
equal okay just check i'm just like looking out for trump you know because like
04:24:16.100
maybe okay good talk all right we have a chat uh cena read this one for us
04:24:24.120
rachel cook cook that rose these young ladies objectively have never been exposed to the history
04:24:31.240
of feminism western and eastern feminism russian chocolates for you and andrew
04:24:37.560
joe murphy thank you for the message man really appreciate it thank you so much man
04:24:41.160
i do appreciate it and then we have libertariat prime thank you so much for the 20 gifted
04:24:46.760
memberships really appreciate it uh rachel did you have more did you have a response
04:24:51.940
um i just think that you guys are taking it so literally when you're like oh what i do
04:24:57.440
dictates humanity i mean yes i know i said that in that extreme hypothetical if it was like
04:25:02.780
oh whatever i do that says you know then humanity's off but like i mean i'm doing what i want to do
04:25:08.660
at this moment and these are my career goals and my future goals and i i don't see why like
04:25:14.900
you're like i'm gonna threaten you with this oh you're you know not threatening you i'm not even
04:25:19.400
trying to shame you like i i get where you're coming from uh but how old are you i'm 23 23 and
04:25:26.160
do you have a job right now yes what kind of field of work are you working in right now i'm a nursing
04:25:32.140
assistant i work full-time okay is working awesome like are you do you get up in the morning you're
04:25:38.860
like oh my god work yes another 40 hour work week this is amazing can't wait genuinely yes i work in
04:25:46.540
one of the best hospitals um i love serving the population yes i do okay fair enough i'm just
04:25:54.760
saying usually by the time you get to be 40 45 50 years old and you ask people do you love working
04:26:01.380
they're generally kind of like i can't wait to retire this sucks i'd love to retire even if they
04:26:06.480
started in a career that they love i'm just saying there's a lot more to life than your job and i think
04:26:11.640
it's kind of sad if your whole life and your whole identity and your whole self-worth is tied up in
04:26:16.300
your job i just think there's more to life than that i agree when you're on your deathbed are you
04:26:22.860
gonna like look back to that like one like super dope oh uh like magnus opus like surgery that you
04:26:29.180
did like the anesthesia is just fucking on point like fuck dude i hit the i hit the fucking
04:26:35.240
the fucking vein like super proper and it was like the fucking boom the vein just boom right in
04:26:42.000
the fucking they're all passed out like and you're just like looking back at it you're like fuck yeah
04:26:46.680
i fucking killed that shit hey brian thank you for having me on thank you so much and by the way i
04:26:51.920
don't hold any of any of anything we talked about against any of you personally it's just we're all
04:26:56.080
just chatting right so thank you so much for entertaining my questions and conversing with
04:27:00.840
me totally appreciate it i'm gonna let mr andrew take back over so thank you rachel appreciate it
04:27:05.600
thank you thank you yeah like that one surgery if you're asking am i gonna uh remember a specific
04:27:12.700
surgery when i'm on my deathbed no but will i remember the happiness and fulfillment i bought
04:27:16.980
to people yeah when i was was serving them and serving the community then yes is there like a
04:27:21.300
specific kind of surgery like practice that you want to do like there's like you want to do shit for
04:27:26.740
like a plastic surgeon or um i'd probably want to work with trauma trauma okay so like trauma cases
04:27:34.360
like in missouri with gunshot wounds or something sure yeah yeah okay that's cool there i mean there's
04:27:40.780
like a lot of 13 year old 13 year olds getting um shot at by police officers in missouri in missouri
04:27:49.220
the need um anesthesiologists to um anyways good talk uh okay we're gonna get into some of the more
04:27:59.580
more of the show notes here um i'm trying to oh we got to do the bow video let's do the bow video
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all right so this is a video of my ex-girlfriend i took it uh a while ago uh and this is my expectation
04:28:13.020
like on the first date kind of like what i expect from a girl go ahead play it
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boom huge bow huge bow and then she you know she scampers to get the laundry done after this is
04:28:28.320
after one of the podcast day so um and then my my dinner was ready it was a long podcasting day she
04:28:35.460
had my um beer you know gets my beer opens it for me um has my dinner ready i had to scold her about
04:28:42.680
those just random tomatoes i don't i don't really i'm not a big tomato guy but yeah um so that and
04:28:49.400
then play the bow play it play it boom huge bow um so would you guys i'm just i guess going around
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the table would you also point out how disappointed i am with your ex here that you know she she stirred
04:29:05.240
the noodles in front of you and it was just it was very light it was a very light stirring
04:29:09.620
the seasoning was on like i saw the seasoning and she really didn't didn't spread it out like she
04:29:14.720
should have prime it was i it was um i i was upset so i guess going around the table uh would you bow
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for your man no yes in thailand yes not in america nope in alabama no alabama in maine
04:29:36.680
i'm thinking if this is a different if there's a different state no um i wouldn't bow to any guy
04:29:43.760
in like any country unless it's in thailand because it's actually custom what about thai town
04:29:49.660
no chinatown oh if it's like um family members here then yes you know like i don't mean to a
04:29:58.560
partner in general like maybe like a uncle or something okay you wouldn't do it okay that's
04:30:02.700
fine uh what about you chloe if it's a custom of some sort then it's disrespectful not to and in
04:30:09.640
other certain contexts maybe um on a day-to-day basis no don't you date a korean guy though do you
04:30:20.600
think we're bowing to each other every day throughout the day i don't know but like culturally it would
04:30:24.620
make sense like in that culture right no it wouldn't no why not wives don't bow to their
04:30:30.960
husbands in korea i don't know why people say that they don't it's like your elders i thought bowing was
04:30:36.180
like common in asian cultures uh yes they do if you're younger that's not true like that's literally
04:30:41.820
not true yes husbands in south korea most definitely do or do get bowed to by their wives and most
04:30:48.620
definitely in north korea as well that definitely is true um i have not seen that in south korea
04:30:55.620
you don't see them bow to their bosses ever okay to their boss it's a respect thing but not yes
04:31:01.040
spouse and it happens in individual homes just like it happens with the boss if you're a
04:31:05.520
traditionalist family it does happen of course it does no it doesn't yeah okay well that's fine you
04:31:11.180
can say that i mean my brother who was in the army came back with a korean wife and that chick
04:31:15.220
fucking bowed to him i can tell you that and uh her her family was very traditional and her parents
04:31:21.280
the mom bowed to her as well so i don't know what the fuck you're talking about that's probably why
04:31:26.020
he married an asian woman too because he because he's fucking awesome no no no because white men who
04:31:33.640
marry asian women like actual actual asian women in asia are like they kind of like the submissive
04:31:41.720
factor so you're not submissive good yeah good wait are you not yeah good
04:31:46.440
are you not submissive tiffany i could be to the right man you have a white boyfriend what are you
04:31:53.740
talking about okay but are you throwing your white boyfriend he's not into like asian women he's not
04:31:59.580
into asian women he's not into me because i'm more i'm more submissive than other women of other races
04:32:09.800
exactly what i said you're not yeah he's not fetishizing me
04:32:16.860
okay but i'm just like you're saying that white men date okay i don't know whatever
04:32:24.920
fetishization to be attracted to an asian woman that's not a fetish
04:32:29.020
i didn't say it was but in certain cases you know fetishization can apply to any woman
04:32:34.400
any yeah but it can apply to anything you could fetishize a table like but but somebody who says
04:32:39.680
well my preference of attraction is asian women that's not a fetish i'm a table i think there's
04:32:44.200
a stereotype that asian women are more submissive than other races and so sometimes men will definitely
04:32:50.480
go after them specifically because they think they're going to bow down to them not just them
04:32:55.000
eastern europeans too and good what what the hell is wrong with a man wanting a more submissive woman
04:32:59.800
from a culture where submission is taught into the woman that she's not going to be vexing and a
04:33:04.400
headache and a problem and things like this but rather she's going to do her duty to her family i
04:33:10.140
don't even understand the problem with that that seems completely fine to me they're both happy with
04:33:14.900
it then yeah yeah did we go around the table every on the bow would you bow i don't know where we left
04:33:21.080
off did we get ellen's answer uh did you give your answer would you bow i gave my answer i think we
04:33:28.140
might have said no we'll hear from her when she's back would you bow for uh your boyfriend no okay
04:33:35.060
would you bow for a boyfriend into the mic into the mic no sorry no tiffany you already conceded on
04:33:42.800
this argument last show yeah okay well all right um i want ellen's answer when she's back but uh none
04:33:53.420
of you would bow for a guy just curious i'm going reverse around the table should a guy pay for a first
04:33:57.940
date yes yes i think it depends on who asks the person out have you ever asked a guy out on a date
04:34:05.680
yeah more often than not how many first dates have you been on i don't know a couple i don't i don't
04:34:11.800
keep a tally of them can you move your who was more likely to pay move your mic this way for me
04:34:16.800
yeah um of all the first dates you've been on more often than not who pays for the date i don't i mean
04:34:25.700
most often it's 50 50 um okay i don't know i i thought you said it depends who asked often it's 50 50
04:34:33.660
most often i mean i yes i don't ask guys out a lot it's happened a couple times um but you've asked
04:34:38.940
guys out yeah so how many times have guys asked you out i don't know i'm 23 it's been like a long
04:34:45.480
time so you're going if you're going 50 50 on the dates where the guy asks you out yes i mean sorry
04:34:54.800
no if the guy asked me out then he would have to pay full and i asked the guy out then i would have
04:34:58.480
to pay full ideally but if he asked me to go getting very conflicting answers here but
04:35:03.240
so in what instances do you go 50 50 uh the times where you guys both simultaneously
04:35:11.600
ask each other out if he says i want to go 50 50 we'll go 50 50 how many times has that happened
04:35:17.060
a couple i'm not gonna disagree i'm not gonna say you should pay for it i'm sure sometimes guys will
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whatever the mood whatever the situation is i don't know okay um uh ellen did you you saw the
04:35:29.380
i'll know did you give your response would you bow for a guy um like if it was like a traditional
04:35:35.800
thing and no he just wanted you to bow for him i don't see why i would need a bow
04:35:41.120
to be test your respect no and test your submissiveness i guess no wouldn't do it okay and
04:35:51.340
then uh who should pay on the first date i would prefer if the guy pays for me why is that
04:35:56.860
i don't i just that's my preference okay what informs your preference
04:36:03.880
traditional gender roles um i mean i i would be okay paying as well how many first dates have
04:36:15.120
you been on uh like four did you pay on uh did you go 50 50 on any of them i went 50 50 on one of
04:36:24.220
them and the other three the guy paid yeah did you say hold on sir no no no i insist on 50 50 or did
04:36:31.580
you let them pay we just we just split it oh like when the times they paid the three times they paid
04:36:37.780
i just let them pay you didn't you didn't protest out of your feminism or i said i can pay and then
04:36:44.480
they were like you didn't insist though i didn't insist you didn't insist okay i did suggest it
04:36:49.420
what about you who should pay on the first date um i'm the type of person to fight over me being
04:36:53.740
the one paying i don't like people paying for things for me i feel like i owe something to them
04:36:59.680
afterwards so i prefer to pay for myself regardless and even dates i go on with my partner i mean i'll
04:37:06.880
pay the full thing too and sometimes he'll pay the full thing it doesn't matter
04:37:14.980
so what is that you kind of just like ask the waiter to close their eyes and whatever card they
04:37:23.300
pick that's who pays it's just like um okay oh come on and all the dates you've been on no not all of
04:37:31.840
you can tally up was the man way more likely to pay than you um actually no but i don't mind um and
04:37:40.180
the reason why that is is because usually i'm the one who picks the restaurant and i'm like a foodie so
04:37:47.360
we usually go to more high-end places and that's why i always offer like my did you say you were dating
04:37:52.860
somebody right now i'm going on dates but no yeah the last date you went on who paid
04:37:58.040
um it was 50 50 and the day before that um probably i don't know and what about the one before that
04:38:07.900
probably 50 50 probably or was well i don't know i don't really do you don't remember who paid on
04:38:16.340
on three dates ago um well i mean i haven't gone on many like as of recently so you've gone on many
04:38:23.300
great okay so if you've gone on many no not many she hasn't gone on many oh
04:38:27.880
oh it hasn't gone on many okay but well what does recently mean um recently like a day just a few
04:38:35.100
days ago but before that probably like like a while ago you know how long is that how long is a while
04:38:40.980
ago um probably two weeks before i got my ankle injury so around then well how long ago was that
04:38:49.860
like two weeks ago two weeks ago so so you went on a day two weeks ago and the day you went on before
04:38:55.420
that was how many weeks before that um when i came back from greece so which was how long ago like
04:39:06.560
four or five weeks ago okay so within the last five weeks you've gone on three dates and you're saying
04:39:12.020
that they've all been 50 50 except well i'm sorry two were 50 50 and one was not really yeah i don't
04:39:18.440
know i haven't been on like many dates i'm just like either at work or i'm traveling or doing my
04:39:23.880
own thing all right yeah i'm not concerned with the amount of dates you've been on i'm just curious as
04:39:29.520
to who has paid when you have been on them i mean it kind of it really just like differs depending on
04:39:34.580
like who chooses or who asks or you know if i want to play that game of card roulette okay all right
04:39:43.400
let's move on what about you i think the man is more likely to pay i think also that if it's like
04:39:51.080
a lot of first dates and stuff i think it might be a good idea for the guy to pay if he wants to like
04:39:55.980
put on this image that he can take care of you but i think once you're in a relationship especially
04:40:00.260
for a while like i've paid for things for my exes and i've had taking care of the food if we wanted to
04:40:07.200
go go out and eat but yeah sure what about you i think men should pay okay um i think i don't think
04:40:16.260
they have to but they usually do that's been your experience yes okay avantika going back to you you
04:40:24.420
said that women should you disagree that women should go 50 50 the entire relationship what do
04:40:29.600
you mean by that i'm saying that i mean it's an option you know whoever wants to pay can pay
04:40:35.580
like if i want to pick up all the bills for the rest of my relationship but he wants to do
04:40:40.360
something different i don't like if i want to pay for all the restaurants but then he wants to pay
04:40:44.080
for all the like movies and other outings they could do that uh so you disagree with going 50 50
04:40:52.400
the entire relationship or like it could be 60 40 you know 70 30 just depends on what you make it as
04:40:59.600
okay um so i guess my confusion here in relation to the bow video it's weird to me though like you
04:41:08.800
guys think that this is some grand grand ask but a lot of not all of you but a lot of women have an
04:41:17.240
expectation that men do certain tasks or men have certain uh duties when it comes to dating courtship
04:41:23.800
relationships uh some women might expect a man to open a car door for example might expect a man to
04:41:30.300
protect you in some sort of scenario but specifically when it comes to paying for first dates so let's
04:41:38.840
assume for a second that you're and i'm uh being charitable i guess on the cost of a first date let's say the
04:41:45.040
cost of a first date is the equivalent to one hour of work for the man
04:41:51.020
let's say makes 20 an hour the date is 20 this is actually probably very unlikely but
04:41:58.480
i don't know it takes you out for a hot dog or a burger or tacos or something
04:42:02.760
realistically i think a lot of men are probably going to pay 50 to 100 on the first date uh if he
04:42:09.660
works 20 hour 20 an hour a lot of men don't even make that much that's five hours of work for him to
04:42:16.140
treat you to a first date so if women's expectation is men should pay for first dates or if they're the
04:42:24.060
the translation there essentially what you're saying is men should labor for five hours to treat
04:42:31.780
me on a date but i can't do a bow which takes no effort that's where i'm confused so going to you
04:42:39.620
you very you were very much had a strong objection to the to the request if a boyfriend were to request
04:42:46.000
that you bow but you said the guy should pay for the first date the entailment of that is that if
04:42:51.360
he's working 20 an hour and he takes you out on a hundred dollar date you're saying he has to work
04:42:56.260
five hours he let's say he works a physical labor job construction job he has to physically labor for
04:43:02.700
five hours if he wants my time how is this not worse than a guy asking for a bow me specifically
04:43:11.700
because you said i would never do a bow but you want a guy to pay for the first date i said i'd prefer it
04:43:20.580
let me ask you a question you got you go on a date with a guy he asks you out you get a dinner i don't
04:43:27.280
know it's 40 60 bucks whatever the waiter comes and he says two checks
04:43:32.120
is there any a second date with that guy if i like his personality yeah so he has to make up for
04:43:42.060
a detriment in his conduct by being more charismatic
04:43:47.100
i mean or have a better personality you said you would prefer a guy to pay for the first date
04:43:55.100
i would prefer it why i think it's just like a nice gesture but i wouldn't be opposed to
04:44:02.160
paying myself okay but it is a traditional gender role right
04:44:08.280
i think it's yeah it's deemed that way let me ask the panel this uh for any of you here if a guy
04:44:16.300
wanted to go 50 50 on the first date waiter comes he says two checks you gotta pay is there gonna be a
04:44:28.720
no not if he just says two checks like no if if he's like talks about it oh why why would he have
04:44:38.280
to talk about it he's got to have your permission to go 50 50 no i feel like it's more of like a
04:44:43.300
respect thing than just to what do you mean no we're gonna go 50 50 then just saying he needs to
04:44:48.440
confer with you no like if i wanted to pay he needs to check to make sure you're willing yeah
04:44:55.920
if i wanted to pay or if he wanted to pay for you guys are so it's so entitled totally entitled
04:45:02.000
behavior imagine if i as a guy said you know what she's got to check with like my expectation as a guy
04:45:09.260
is that you pay the entire bill for me and maybe i'll be considerate but you have to consult with me
04:45:16.240
first before i even consider going 50 50 with you you would fucking laugh at that dude you'd be like
04:45:23.600
what the fuck i mean if i want to pay do you pay i want to what do you mean i put my card on the thing
04:45:31.840
but they just they swap it out you know it's not but my confusion here is that you guys have all these
04:45:38.420
expectations on guys and it's like but if we look at something very simple look i know some of you are
04:45:45.360
okay with 50 50 some of you would be fine splitting the bill but there's enough women out there who
04:45:51.500
would be like absolutely not if he wants to go 50 50 there's not going to be a second date it's a done
04:45:57.300
deal it's like and those same women will be like they'll be total feminist too they'll be like no i won't
04:46:03.720
pay for the bill blah i won't split it's like okay so you won't bow for a guy which takes no effort
04:46:10.380
takes three seconds to do but you the entailment of you expecting a guy to pay for the entire bill
04:46:17.880
is that if he's working a 20 an hour job and the bill's a hundred dollars the entailment of that is
04:46:24.180
you expect a man to work five hours to be able to take you out so what's a bigger ask a guy saying
04:46:32.860
i would like a woman to bow to me or you saying every single time we hang out and we go to dinner
04:46:38.020
you have to work five hours of your life just for the privilege of getting to take me out what's a
04:46:43.180
bigger ask tell me the dinner why because it's five hours versus three seconds of your time
04:46:50.900
so is the fair i think is the fair proposition then for that women should bow to men
04:46:57.060
it's if i gotta fucking shovel some bull if i gotta shovel for fucking five hours to take you out
04:47:04.860
okay that's on you though why is that you're not you're not capable enough to make like fifty
04:47:11.140
dollars an hour or a hundred dollars bro y'all are hold on the average and y'all are 18 how many
04:47:15.900
and men and men actually want to pay for dates men naturally like providing yeah that's they like
04:47:21.680
sure women don't want to bow for men they don't women don't want to be submissive we don't want to
04:47:26.180
be that's a feminist mind virus not equal bowing bowing is weird it's like a form of worship
04:47:31.900
it's oh my bowing is bowing is not a form of worship wait so if an atheist weird okay and
04:47:40.320
actually men don't like maids when women bow bow to them and cook for them and clean for them and
04:47:46.780
take they don't like hold on what and and cater to them all the time no that's when men actually go
04:47:53.440
out and cheat men like the chase tiffany what the what are you talking about men just to be clear
04:48:01.780
so men don't like it when when women do all these things for them yeah they they think they do but
04:48:08.260
they actually don't i would disagree no my god this is this is this is like they think that they want
04:48:14.080
a non-vexing submissive woman but what they really want is a woman who acts like a bitch all the time
04:48:18.860
what was i what were we thinking we were no that's exactly right men love bitches there's a
04:48:23.860
whole book about it too here i was thinking that men prefer to have women who are completely non-vexing
04:48:29.520
and generally take care of their roles in the in the home because that's what all of them report
04:48:34.760
but as it turns out i was wrong what they really want is somebody to be an annoying brat and vex them
04:48:40.160
all day jeez i wish that i had known that earlier
04:48:43.400
total tiffany that's fake news bro that's fake news they so you're saying men want uh like
04:48:54.260
quarrelsome disagreeable non-helpful non-submissive women that's is that what you think men want
04:49:05.280
non you said like a submission doesn't equal bowing if i say if i'm i would argue wouldn't it be
04:49:15.940
wouldn't that exactly be submissive i want you to do this
04:49:19.480
wouldn't that be submissive and you don't you do it and you don't oh i want to have a conversation
04:49:27.780
about i want to question it wouldn't you just do it wouldn't that be submissive
04:49:31.340
men like submissive men like submission to an extent when it's too much and the girl doesn't
04:49:37.480
have her own mind and basically will bow down to them they don't like it what have you tried to do
04:49:47.480
this with a man like what evidence so what so what evidence do you have that this is true
04:49:59.320
no it's it just sounds good right common knowledge no it just sounds common knowledge
04:50:06.100
it's common it just sounds good no it's common knowledge from who the experience of
04:50:12.980
the experiences of many women wait so just to be clear wait one thing one thing really quick
04:50:18.040
one thing really quick so when you say experiences of women so the experiences of women are men
04:50:26.040
will like you less if you treat them well you do nice things for them you're helpful you help them
04:50:33.140
out with certain uh household duties you're saying men detest these these things in women
04:50:40.600
yes yes and they'd much prefer and they'd much prefer dealing with a woman who refuses to do these
04:50:46.580
yes they hate it they hate it they hate they hate they hate women who who are submissive
04:50:53.800
essentially no i think in a way to an extent no i think she's saying like they get bored
04:50:59.600
get bored yeah they do okay i have an input i'm sorry okay go ahead you're talking about a man
04:51:05.640
i think you're talking about a boy to be honest there's a difference wait me or no
04:51:10.400
like you're talking about a man so yes a man wants someone to be submissive yes a man wants to
04:51:15.680
take care of home and for the you know his woman to you know all that but a boy does not a boy is who
04:51:24.500
essentially likes the drama and the toxic and the back and forth and all of that chaotic
04:51:32.780
really good point like you're i think i would tend to i think yeah
04:51:36.320
there's two different things two two different things he's not a man that's why we in movies we
04:51:42.120
always see we always see um the portrayal of when the the the wife's at home and she's calling her
04:51:50.040
husband at work oh babe what are you gonna come home he's not a man i have dinner made for you
04:51:54.660
and then the guy no we don't see that in movies at all what we see in movies and what we see in media
04:51:59.320
is homer simpson and men are portrayed as bumbling fucking idiots that for some reason are uh just
04:52:06.620
happen to gallivant through life working at a nuclear power plant eating donuts right why everybody
04:52:12.460
ignores how incompetent they are and if only if only it weren't for that beautiful wife who is somehow
04:52:21.200
skinny and petite married to this big fat bald guy wasn't there to correct his endless bad behavior
04:52:27.240
why men just couldn't get along it's like give me a break with this shit men are portrayed in the
04:52:32.420
worst light possible let me give you an example there was a show when i was growing up called home
04:52:36.620
improvement right where the entire theme of this of the show was that uh the guy was an incompetent
04:52:44.800
moron who couldn't even handle the power tools on his own show and his wife had to run the entire
04:52:50.620
family dynamic in fact i can give you show after show after show where this is the case
04:52:55.380
tell me the show where the woman is the nice petite 1950 style housewife who greets him at the door
04:53:02.140
with dinner and modernity she could tell me tell me what that show is called also i don't think
04:53:08.700
hollywood hang on let her let her answer tell me what the show is called what is it called
04:53:12.200
i don't know yeah it's called it's called you just made it the fuck up that's what i did it though
04:53:17.420
anyway yeah they did it yeah they they did it in the 1950s with with the with the cleavers from leave
04:53:23.900
it to beaver maybe but they don't do it in modernity
04:53:26.820
men don't really know the psychology of themselves what like they don't understand themselves what book
04:53:35.160
what stupid book did you read that's just how men are what's the stupid book you read no it's not a
04:53:39.220
book that's you said it was a book it was like men love bitchy women or something it's it's titled
04:53:44.160
why women why men love bitches who wrote it i don't know a woman probably
04:53:50.180
yeah men understand the psyche of men better than men understand the psyche of themselves wait women
04:53:59.140
understand the psyche of men better than men understand this it's by a woman it is by one sherry
04:54:07.540
right of course it was made by a woman oh sherry twice divorced by the way twice right she knows
04:54:21.940
i want to ask the panel do you guys think that men want bitchy women
04:54:28.360
no no anybody here think men prefer bitchy women over they only prefer bitchy women because they
04:54:37.840
uh like if you think about it like those boys who are like oh like i don't want a girl who listens
04:54:48.020
blah blah like i'll bow down to this girl blah blah it's because they can't get women and once they
04:54:52.600
get a woman they're gonna do everything they can to keep her but a man if he has so many options
04:54:58.340
why would he tolerate yeah yeah no that's a good point i mean uh there are men out there who like
04:55:06.760
can't get anything else so they're gonna either they don't know what else is out there they think
04:55:12.800
that's normal or they just don't have any other options so they're just gonna tolerate men will put
04:55:28.520
if they don't get pussy if they get pussy they're not they're gonna put up very little and then you're gonna be gone
04:55:35.260
or they're just gonna keep you around for sex and then you'll never get a commitment from him
04:55:45.620
whinging or whatever the fuck he's like yeah i'm not gonna date the take this girl seriously
04:55:53.820
uh who should pay on the first date oh yeah you guys hate the bow for some reason
04:55:59.540
but you want the guy to pay for the first date it's like
04:56:02.160
kind of confusing we have two three chats we're gonna read
04:56:07.300
the reason why the women say i don't know when they are asked who paid
04:56:20.260
yeah lol paladins thank you for the uh message man
04:56:30.160
ask the panel if china declared war under the moral authority of
04:56:41.660
would you side with china or would you stand with the united states of america
04:56:49.620
uh wildly awesome it's a wildly awesome question
04:56:52.400
so would you side with china or would you stand with the united states of america
04:57:05.800
um what was the full question because there was like
04:57:08.500
i mean it's not just would you side with china or united states
04:57:11.340
yeah here i'll pull it back up again and i'll have you read it for us
04:57:15.260
ask the panel if china declared war under the moral authority of dismantling whiteness and
04:57:23.680
would you side with china or would you side with the united states of america
04:57:35.480
can you reword it i wanted to read it one more time
04:57:42.720
and the re the pretext the justification for the war
04:57:46.640
is they're just they want to dismantle whiteness
04:57:55.380
and for this reason they're declaring war china declaring war against the united states
04:58:00.300
do you stand with china or do you stand with the united states
04:58:11.600
oh um would it be okay if i just don't answer this one
04:58:17.980
are you like you don't want to like offend the ccp or
04:58:22.120
i just don't really like to talk about like political stances
04:58:28.560
i mean i can't force you to answer the question so
04:58:33.220
i don't think i'm that informed on this topic specifically
04:58:37.740
there's nothing to be it's a hypothetical there's nothing to be informed
04:58:47.620
um i'm sorry i have a serious what is whiteness
04:59:01.340
yeah so the question is asking from a progressive standpoint
04:59:06.140
that uh white men and women are privileged over every other class
04:59:20.580
over all other ethnicities that they wouldn't ordinarily have
04:59:49.380
bit late here but curious what language you'd be speaking today
05:00:30.060
i think that was it wasn't that the preparation for d-day
05:01:32.920
the whole world can land on the beaches of new york
05:01:45.560
at that point russia was part of the allied powers
05:31:31.940
preferably like 5 4 to 5 8 um current boyfriend how tall is he i think about 5 6 5 7
05:31:39.280
something like something like that ellen how tall are you i'm 5 3 and you would date
05:31:43.340
anyone above 5 7 okay how how tall was your last boyfriend i think he was around 5 11 okay uh you're 5 6 or no sorry you're you're five what five foot even you're five foot and you want to date five so how tall was uh your six month i was he was actually like 5 4 good for him all right uh
05:32:13.340
is 5 5 5 i did it is 5 5 5 5 5 5 i would date 5 9 and above
05:32:19.800
all right and then moving on to the last one of the last questions before we get back to the disagreements would you rather cross paths with the man or bear in the forest starting with you go ahead
05:32:33.380
know what that entails but i would say a man i mean it's just a man so random man random bear
05:32:40.880
essentially what does that like what do you mean so you got the whole u.s population of men the
05:32:47.280
whole u.s population of bears could be a random man could be a random bear could be a black bear
05:32:53.120
brown bear grizzly bear oh and then could be like a serial killer sure it's a random man it could be
05:32:58.340
a serial killer could be kyle you pull up the meme really quick actually hold on we'll we'll wait for
05:33:04.380
the meme um man or bear i would say man okay cena what about you i said that i depended on one type
05:33:11.880
of man well it's random man you don't get to pick right random man random bear
05:33:17.460
man okay lexi what about you the man you says depends on what type of bear well since you said
05:33:27.900
it was like random bear random man i feel like the odds of you coming to like like if it's a brown
05:33:34.600
bear that kind of sucks if it's a black bear if you're just loud at all sure okay pause um when i
05:33:40.960
first came on i said bear but after talking about it a little bit i'm changing it to man all right
05:33:45.940
chloe a bear ellen i think i wrote a bear but bear yeah
05:33:52.780
bear a bear a man all right so i think it was uh let's see uh bear bear bear bear let's talk to
05:34:06.980
you guys a little bit uh why do you pick bear and why don't you pick man go ahead chloe
05:34:13.020
um i trust animals more than i trust people um i think there's more solid reasons why animals do
05:34:21.500
things than there are people do things but i also i will say part of it's just my delusions i like to
05:34:27.280
think i'm a little animal charmer so i like to make believe and think i could be friends with it
05:34:31.660
but okay and why don't you pick men i don't trust them you don't trust men yeah okay um
05:34:40.720
just don't trust them that's i think the average man is less trustworthy than the average bear
05:34:47.580
that's a pretty big indictment of men but um all right ellen why uh why do you pick bear and why
05:34:56.380
don't you pick man wait like where's the setting is it like a forest yeah forest yeah like a deep
05:35:03.520
set forest or like a camping ground like yosemite um it it is uh the argonne forest in france
05:35:15.060
so there's probably still some landmines so there's still like people no so you're either
05:35:23.540
scenario you're fully alone fully alone fully alone with either the man or the bear if it was a deep
05:35:29.980
set forest i think it's the bear because i don't see why just like a regular man would be well let's
05:35:35.700
assume there's a hiking path oh then the man then the man because then there's like a reason for
05:35:41.500
somebody or the man to like well there's also a reason for the bear to be there too oh no there's
05:35:45.380
like a reason or there's like that's where they live no but it's just like the general population
05:35:49.940
goes there but like i feel like a serial killer would just go to the random how about how about this
05:35:54.620
let me let me give you this one uh so you you randomly spawn in the forest you just get dropped
05:36:01.640
there randomly okay then there's two buttons that get presented in front of you you can randomly spawn
05:36:07.700
a random man or two buttons or you can hit the other button randomly spawns a bear
05:36:15.160
so there's not motives as to why they're there you just random man of the entire u.s population
05:36:22.800
random bear of the bear population in the u.s than a man oh okay yeah why did you pick bear
05:36:31.760
initially because i thought it was like a deep like dark forest and there's like no reason for
05:36:37.440
a human being to be there unless they're like kind of crazy okay all right um that's that's an
05:36:45.340
interesting interpretation of the question what about you so why do you pick bear why don't you pick
05:36:51.560
man um just don't trust the man's intention i mean even if it was a woman i don't think i trust any
05:36:57.060
person's intentions especially you'd rather be in the forest uh with a bear over a woman even yes
05:37:03.580
because i don't trust anyone's intentions in the middle of the forest i think you guys are letting
05:37:08.740
the forest part do a bit of heavy lifting yeah i mean if it's public
05:37:12.440
even so even in a forest you'd you'd rather come and also the scenario you're going to cross paths
05:37:22.260
you cross you will cross paths with either the man or the bear there's not like you can't hide from
05:37:27.940
them they become aware of your presence um so bear yes because you don't trust people in general
05:37:37.280
i mean a bear can't assuming the worst a bear can't like torture you and rape you and everything
05:37:44.060
you know and i mean they'd probably maul you and kill you but that's like aside from like i don't
05:37:50.180
know psychological torture i'm just talking about like the capacity each one has okay so just to be
05:37:56.120
um wait just to be clear even a woman you'd prefer to pick a bear over a woman a random woman yes
05:38:04.400
interesting this is a new one i haven't heard uh and then you picked bear why do you pick bear
05:38:10.180
why don't you pick men um i just feel like i would be better off with a bear than a man
05:38:16.360
all right uh so i guess those of you who said you changed your answer did you change your answer
05:38:23.300
too or you're still bear okay bear bear bear you said you don't trust men uh i guess a lot of you
05:38:29.320
are concerned that the man in this situation while the bear could murder you the man could try to
05:38:32.960
torture you before he could try to essay you before that seems to be a lot of the uh things
05:38:37.520
that women will say on this one uh i guess what percentage then of men do you think are inclined to
05:38:44.860
uh assault you in this way to pick bear over men starting with you chloe go ahead i actually wasn't
05:38:52.940
even thinking about them doing something per se i just i don't like the majority of guys like
05:38:58.920
really people too i do agree actually with you even a woman spawning there i don't really
05:39:04.020
i just don't really like people all that much you dislike people to the point that you'd rather
05:39:10.340
encounter a bear oh i'd love to test my luck i i love i love animals so the choices like have a
05:39:19.000
like like gossip about some shit with it like a like a bimbo like that could be a scenario like
05:39:27.580
she's just like paris hilton or some shit it's like haha no i don't want that you'd pick a bear
05:39:35.960
if i wanted to talk with someone and like he he ha ha and chit chat i'd go to like a salon or go
05:39:45.800
somewhere where i'd want to talk to people if i'm in the woods can i ask you a question if you didn't
05:39:50.020
eat breakfast today how would you feel what do you mean if you didn't have breakfast this morning how
05:39:55.000
do you feel i'd be a little hungry okay um all right uh
05:40:05.040
so you pick a bear over any human what about a baby there's just a baby in the crib it's crying
05:40:16.460
maybe you pick the bear i'll pick the bear because i don't want the baby to spawn in the forest the
05:40:21.660
baby should be at home with its with its family all right good that's a great okay cool all right
05:40:26.400
uh and then why so you're you what's the percentage chance of a woman doing something bad to you to
05:40:36.100
the point that you'd rather pick a wild animal that's like four times as big as you over a woman
05:40:43.900
like what are you afraid that a woman's going to do to you i mean with an animal it's clear-cut you
05:40:50.380
know they're either going to eat you or they're not are they're going to go somewhere else i don't
05:40:55.160
you don't know a person's intentions especially in the middle of a forest so there's one two three
05:41:02.400
four five six seven eight women here um i mean like you would rather spawn with a bear than any of
05:41:09.460
the women here at the table i mean excluding paws so all the other women here at the table you'd rather
05:41:16.160
be in a forest with a bear than any of them i don't know who they are yeah you don't know i don't
05:41:22.180
know their capacity you don't know them like ellen over there she could fucking stab you bro she could
05:41:25.740
pull out her knife and just start shanking you live on on air yeah i don't know she could be violent
05:41:31.160
right okay um what if you changed it from a bear to a lion just by a show of hands would anybody's
05:41:41.720
would anybody's answer change random bear or random lion or random man
05:41:45.260
no no is this because like lions are maybe perceived as more aggressive yeah like 20 fold yeah
05:41:58.380
doesn't it doesn't change okay all right um tyrannosaurus rex random tyrannosaurus rex or a
05:42:08.040
random man yeah anybody's answer change t-rex or oh no yeah maybe a t-rex because they can't
05:42:14.620
really get to you what they have tiny arms yeah but they have i mean they're like big and they can
05:42:21.360
like run fast jurassic park bro random okay show of hands real quick random velociraptor
05:42:27.940
or a random man show of hands velociraptor or man you can just like climb the back and they can't
05:42:34.400
eat you okay pause i'm gonna get you in the cage with a velociraptor does it change it
05:42:40.620
velociraptor or man no it doesn't change it's still velociraptor yes velociraptor look i'll be honest
05:42:47.100
i'm damaged um so i would probably still the yeah velociraptor or man i don't know velociraptors
05:42:54.760
are cute what the fuck they're like what the fuck i used to call my little sibling a velociraptor
05:43:02.040
i don't know that's great okay a couple more clarifying questions then uh so okay going to
05:43:08.140
the men though to the men i know you said you don't even want the woman over the bear um what is the
05:43:12.960
risk assessment on like what percentage of men do you think would choose to like sa you
05:43:16.960
out of the random of the male population in the united states i don't know but am i willing to
05:43:25.300
take that risk in the middle of the forest you know someone who would well that i mean typically
05:43:30.400
when you're doing a risk assessment if like the risk of something is like 0.0001 versus say like 50
05:43:36.500
you're gonna like you know if the man chooses to say me and i have to live with that for the rest of
05:43:42.740
my life well there's no guarantee in this situation that you it's not a guarantee you get essayed
05:43:47.160
okay do you think that or do you think that it is a guarantee no i don't if you're alone with a man
05:43:52.920
he's gonna essay you i don't think that it's a guarantee okay so what's the what's your risk
05:43:57.640
assessment what's the percentage i'm going on the worst possible scenario so if it's like the man's
05:44:03.460
gonna say me what is the percentage of the worst possible scenario happening um i would say like
05:44:09.980
in the forest if we're talking about just in the forest it's a 50 50 because you don't know what
05:44:14.600
type of person they are they could be a hiker they could be someone who wants to get a person alone
05:44:18.360
um and do whatever they want with them what do you think it's a risk would want to do kill me
05:44:25.740
do you think do you think that uh you could like calm it down i could do it i don't know i mean
05:44:35.500
i haven't really i don't know wait so 50 50 of men though would in the forest in the forest okay
05:44:41.620
well let me just ask this real quick real quick brian yeah uh if you were assured death or a random
05:44:48.600
man in the forest which would you choose um probably death i just don't know what the person is capable
05:45:00.680
like i said not man it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman if i'm in the middle of the forest
05:45:04.440
i just don't know what they'll do versus if a bear is mauling me in two seconds then i'm already gone
05:45:11.800
what what is the percent risk of anybody trying to say you trying to hurt you in some way
05:45:23.340
what's the percent risk i would say it's 50 50 anyone 50 in the forest in the forest what about
05:45:30.820
in urban settings in urban settings probably i would say like 75 they're not going to do anything
05:45:38.700
and maybe 25 they are how about this um you're alone in a room with a man what's the percent there
05:45:55.040
if i'm alone in a room with the man the man yeah um
05:46:11.860
like 60 that they're not going to do something 40 they are i mean i don't know the true intentions of
05:46:19.140
someone okay so 40 of the time you've been alone in a room with a man you've been s ed no i mean so
05:46:27.440
how do you i'm not in a i can't like calculate probability have you ever been in a room alone
05:46:33.340
with a man yes have you i mean it sounds like from the previous statements you've made you have had
05:46:39.160
casual sexual encounters i'm assuming these were consensual maybe not all of them but yes
05:46:45.000
and it's just been with one person who's had good intentions
05:46:48.960
wait you've only had that i'm not saying i'm not saying like that i'm not like saying that like
05:46:55.060
oh it's like 100 people and then it's like 25 of them are like wrong and then you know what i mean
05:47:00.200
i don't okay so 40 of men so just to be clear um do you have any male siblings no
05:47:07.000
uh you have male cousins you have a father yes right uh 40 of your immediate family are uh essayers
05:47:15.180
no what makes your family superior to the general population
05:47:19.240
i mean i i don't know because i know them on a personal level i don't think they would do that
05:47:26.160
but i'm not saying it's limited to a man isn't it the case with some of these statistics that it's
05:47:29.800
more likely to be somebody you know who does this to you you're right on that i'm just saying
05:47:34.200
if it's any random person i'm not limiting this to a man or not i'm saying there's like a 60 40
05:47:39.940
chance percent of them being good versus bad what's the population the adult male population of the
05:47:45.440
united states it's 165 million 40 percent of 165 million sorry i'm fucking terrible of 165 let me
05:47:56.100
ask you a question real quick uh just another curiosity question i was wondering about you agree
05:48:00.680
with me that uh people can overcome horribly traumatic experiences they can overcome those
05:48:06.860
at least some percentage of people can some percentage yes yeah at least some percentage
05:48:11.600
can they do that if they're dead no no so if you had to choose on behalf of other women who were not
05:48:17.780
you you did not know the woman but you had to spawn them in the forest with a random man or a random
05:48:23.420
bear which one would you choose then i don't know look me personally yes i would choose the bear
05:48:31.580
for them yeah no but this is not you personally for them this is you choosing for somebody else
05:48:38.120
i don't know i like you're asking me if i'm choosing between them being dead or having a traumatic
05:48:45.180
experience they're going to eventually overcome like well i'm not asking you that i'm asking if you
05:48:50.720
had to choose on behalf of another woman who was not you did not know what what the choice would be
05:48:56.040
that this woman would make but you could spawn her into a forest with a random bear or a random man
05:49:00.900
which one would you choose then i guess the man i'm just saying i couldn't deal with an extremely
05:49:09.880
traumatic experience i'd rather choose being mauled and like being dead in like two or you know like a
05:49:15.780
couple minutes if it was another woman and maybe she might be stronger than me i don't know
05:49:19.720
well just on your risk assessment really quick here you said uh 40 percent uh are you prepared
05:49:27.700
to say that 66 million men in the united states are uh inclined to this kind of crime no i didn't say
05:49:35.180
a hard fact like that i just you said 40 percent yeah that's based on my belief of whether or not i
05:49:39.640
trust a person alone in a room or alone in the forest right but the question was what percentage of
05:49:43.860
people would be inclined or what percentage of men would be inclined to do something like this
05:49:48.660
and you said to which you answered 40 percent so you have to say that 66 million men in the united
05:49:54.760
states are inclined to do this no that's not what i'm saying i'm saying that i am more cautious of
05:50:00.160
their attentions that's my belief i don't think that a lot of people are i think that's not the case
05:50:05.020
uh and then those of you who said bear i guess final thing that i'm going to move on
05:50:08.420
does it change anything if it's 10 men versus 10 bears
05:50:11.940
i don't know i still think it's kind of fun i don't know it's i don't know i just like them
05:50:26.480
what would be fun like expecting to play around with the bear yeah or but what if they're all
05:50:33.280
attacking you at once could you survive like 10 bears versus 10 men for me it's not so much of a
05:50:39.840
concern of whether i'll survive or not if i do or don't that's just what happens but so what's
05:50:44.800
stopping you from just like right now you do you just not care about like living is that i just like
05:50:50.940
my life experiences and i would really like to experience possibly being able to befriend and
05:50:55.660
cuddle a group of bears at the risk of death i mean i would try to like play with all the wild
05:51:02.240
animals near me as a kid so what's stopping you right now from going to a zoo and jumping in the
05:51:07.520
gorilla enclosure there's literally nothing stopping when i was a kid my biggest dream in the world was
05:51:14.100
being able to like hang out and spend time next to a hippo i knew how dangerous they were but they're
05:51:21.280
just so darn cute maybe like a baby hippo no like an adult like the big chunky ones
05:51:27.900
want a hippopotamus for christmas that was my favorite song only hippopotamus will do
05:51:35.620
and i don't care if it bites me in half i don't give a fuck like what's wrong what do you mean you
05:51:43.380
gonna go hang out with the hippopotamuses what are you talking about yeah you're gonna be dead son
05:51:47.600
like one time i tried to befriend this coyote that was near us dead he wasn't so nice but
05:51:55.500
we came to a mutual understanding i think that's that's good um hmm does it change anything for
05:52:02.700
you if it's 10 men versus 10 bears i would take the 10 bears what about 100 men 100 bears
05:52:09.140
i would take the 100 bears i'm a little confused though so you said 60 like even using your own
05:52:18.940
number that you provided you said 40 of men would try to do something crazy 60 wouldn't so if the 60
05:52:28.120
percent of men even granting to you the ridiculous statistics no offense 40 of men are evil and they
05:52:35.200
want to attack you whatever there's a there's 60 men versus 40 men if 60 men saw you being attacked
05:52:42.560
by 40 men the 60 men would outnumber the 40 men you don't think that they would intervene in this
05:52:49.100
situation they just let it happen that would be kind of crazy to watch do you want to answer the
05:52:54.860
question though i i don't know i i'm just saying i don't like it's based on each of them i don't know
05:53:01.780
like i still would choose the bears yes that's my final answer you don't all right i mean what if
05:53:09.680
the 40 men had guns they that would change and then they shoot me like i don't like it's just like
05:53:15.360
average what if they had knives and then the other what the good men can't stop them like
05:53:19.240
we're putting crazy hypotheticals on this i'll add even more crazy hypotheticals
05:53:23.720
it's just it's just interesting to me because there's this fear here well if you're alone
05:53:32.580
well that you're alone but like you move through your life with other people around
05:53:39.140
you walk by men all the time in the street they don't do anything to you
05:53:43.460
you've probably encountered thousands tens of thousands of men they've done nothing to you
05:53:49.400
that you just walk right are you assuming that because like am i wrong yes like okay so the
05:53:54.920
majority of men that you literally just not the majority fucking slap you in the face the majority
05:53:59.760
but there has been times where i feel that people are like i don't care how you feel like stalked me
05:54:04.480
basically i don't care how you feel did they or did they not they made me feel uncomfortable yes how
05:54:09.360
did they make catcalling harassing walking behind you for like 10 minutes straight trying to figure out
05:54:15.160
where you live majority of men i'm not saying the majority you're twisting my words it happens
05:54:19.680
once a season some guy follows you how often have you been followed home i mean it happens to women
05:54:25.560
i literally work in la like yes i am scared okay so homeless homeless people i'm not saying homeless
05:54:31.580
people i just say like i'm scared on my walk to back to my parking lot like in a city yes it's scary
05:54:36.800
to me okay so i don't know what their intent but i grant that this happens but like how many men do
05:54:43.360
you walk past and there's no encounter whatsoever a lot of the times tens of thousands of men you've
05:54:50.540
walked past your entire life let me flip you've done nothing to you let me flip the question how
05:54:55.380
many times has a man been scared that any anyone's gonna do anything from him on the um actually there's
05:55:01.160
there's statistics to me like if you see in prison i'm not talking about prison i'm just talking walk
05:55:06.220
back to your car and like a crowded like suburban area actually as a man men are more likely to
05:55:13.180
be victims of violent crime so um yeah i think about my safety all the time i i just feel like
05:55:19.740
this question's asked a lot more towards women what do you mean i just answered your question
05:55:23.660
i know but i i fear for my safety that's that's all i'm cool i fear for my safety too okay i'm glad
05:55:29.940
we both agree okay i don't know if that was a really productive exchange there but i mean i don't know
05:55:36.200
men are just like oblivious to their surroundings i'm sorry i don't think you're i don't think it was a
05:55:41.580
productive exchange for you to ask me if i was trapped in a room with a hundred men and then
05:55:45.420
a hundred bears the forest fine hundred bears hundred men like like i don't know where this
05:55:50.840
conversation is going exactly well the reason i i bump up the amount of people is that there's a
05:55:56.780
component here of like well if you're alone but like even using your own stats that you said it was
05:56:02.440
60 40 if there's six men who are good men and then there's four men who have bad intentions
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that's still more men that would intervene on your behalf to protect you from these four bad men
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okay so i mean that's why i ask it yeah despite this you would still risk the bear over
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um do you guys think that this is a sexist position to hold to pick a bear a bear over a man
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is it sexist against men no not sexist okay i'm just saying i i've said any person do you think it's
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sexist no i didn't choose a bear because of that reason oh okay do you do you think it's sexist
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what was the question do you think if you pick the bear over the man do you think it's sexist
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well i'm picking the bear because i think it'll be fun i'm not thinking it okay well just engage
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for realsies what do you mean you asked if i would pick a man or a bear i said a bear i have my
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reasons for that my reasons are i think it would be really fun okay i'm just gonna skip over you
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not sexist question if um if we were to change this to be uh like include race so if people were
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picking bear over black person would this be racist i feel like it would why
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well because there's a people are scared of black people so to say there's the statistics and
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so i feel like people would be more people would choose the bear because they would
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okay would it be racist to pick a bear over a black person no it wouldn't be racist i would say that
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about any race any gender okay i guess she's consistent i guess what if i would normally choose
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a man over a bear but if it's specified that that man is black i would choose a bear would that make
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be racist like if you're saying oh i you'd normally choose any other race man over a bear and then
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the bear i mean the man is black just a normal man doesn't okay just well if you're i guess if
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you're switching the question in that way yes if you'd like yes but i i know i've kept it consistent
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it is it is interesting um okay all right i'm gonna move it off of the bear then let me see we do
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have a chat here we have low paladins this woman is literally on this oh my god bro on the same mental
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capacity as the four-year-old girl can i pet that dog can we get brian to play that clip i love that
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clip you know what i don't know what that is can i pet that dog it's just a really cute little girl
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yeah oh my gosh i love it so much all right um okay well we're gonna get into the uh rest of this
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try to get through this quickly as possible um g giana i'm gonna start from the bottom and move my
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way up uh like okay um you you disagree it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman it's not
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it's straight for a man to date a trans woman i mean yeah you think it's straight yeah yeah so you
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disagree it's not straight um going to cena you think it's 50 50 what do you mean
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well like if that trans was a trans woman or trans man uh so it would be a man dating a trans woman
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if that trans woman is like fully transitioned i'd be like it's it's straight but if it's when you say
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fully transitioned you mean had bottom surgery yeah okay so it would be what if they didn't
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have bottom surgery it would be what would it be gay i mean it depends on the man right like if he
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thinks that's okay if he likes that then i'm gonna come right back to this i have two chats coming in
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ogle donated two hundred dollars chair four is one of those people who thinks being counter or
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quirky is cool but it's not you mean chair five an idiot would say it would be fun to be with bears
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hanging out i think you mean she's not taking this seriously just skip her yeah yeah you're right
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you're right ogle um i have another one coming in from ogle he does clarify he does clarify yo ogle
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thank you for the uh tts man i really appreciate your support good to see you in the chat dude i knew
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somebody named ogle a long time ago i don't know if it's the same donated two hundred dollars
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last five my bad two hundred dollars penalty for clicking too fast hey thank you for the
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clarification ogle i do appreciate it you're a legend sir thank you thank you for the tts and your
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support of the show appreciate it uh okay we were you said it was uh 50 50 on that okay lexi you
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did a little 50 50 squiggly thing uh so care to provide clarification i just feel like
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if the other person doesn't have any surgery or whatever it's totally up to their partner to
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say like oh yeah i am gay or i am straight i just think it's their business wait sorry uh
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are you saying there's a duty to disclose or what do you mean like i'm just saying i'm not
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gonna tell someone like if you're dating a trans woman you're gay i just think it's whatever he
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wants to be oh yeah i don't really have a well you might not say that to them but like if you were
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to have like if you were actually to analyze the situation i don't really have a stance on it i don't
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think but i'm you do have a stance and your stance is that um i'm 50 50 you're 50 50 but you're not
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prepared to outright say that it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman
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i think it depends on a lot of factors i don't know yeah such as surgeries and what the people
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let's just sure let's assume that the trans woman had bottom surgery had a neo vagina i guess they're
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called uh would it be straight then yeah okay uh no pause nothing on for you going to you chloe you
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said uh you disagree that it's it's not wrong or transphobic to not want to date a trans person
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and then you were 50 50 on it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman i think people are
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entitled to their own moral beliefs and i'm not in a position to say oh you're wrong for not wanting
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to do that um but as far as whether or not it is not straight um it is for me more so dependent on
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if they've had the surgery so going off what you said if they've had the full surgery
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and whatnot then i don't think i think that would be straight otherwise though it's not so much in
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my opinion about them being trans per se it's just if you're assuming you're dating someone or seeing
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someone and they are trans and they have not gone through with that surgery and you engage in sexual
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actions with them then you're doing that i assume because you enjoy it and are attracted to them which
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means you're therefore then attracted to them as they are which includes their unchanged genitalia
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which would then lead to question are you fully straight because you like what you're doing
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and then you also did say um would you object for example to a man uh not wanting to date a trans woman
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because they were trans i don't think i took it as in like because they are purely trans for me both
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of those questions were 50 50s it's very dependent on you circled fully on 29 which is it's do you
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disagree it's not wrong or transphobic to not want to date a trans person it's not wrong or transphobic
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if that is not what you are attracted to everyone has their preferences like i said before it's not my
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decision to decide whether or not it's okay for someone to you did not mean to circle that then
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it's not that i was like oh it's good for you to not date someone just because they're trans no but
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it wouldn't be for example if a man didn't want to date a trans person because they're trans regardless
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of their if they're fully transitioned let's say they're fully transitioned they still don't want to
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date them is there anything wrong with that i think there can be tons of reasons for that i'm not
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going to say someone's wrong for that i wouldn't not date someone just because they are trans
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but there could be religious reasons there could be moral reasons maybe their family wouldn't approve
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and maybe that would affect them they don't want to go through that there's plenty of reasons okay but
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it wouldn't be wrong it wouldn't be completely wrong ellen you have no opinion do you want to keep
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no opinion or do you want to weigh in on this one i think i'd like to keep my answer
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uh vantica you said uh you disagree it's not straight you disagree with it's not straight for
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a man to date a trans woman i think um it is straight it would be straight for a man to date
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a trans woman okay uh and is there any differentiation between uh what if a man is dating a uh pre-op
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trans woman is that still straight i would say if they're still feminine presenting yeah
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then um yes but still have a penis yes straight okay um she's up tiffany you have no disagreements
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on that um i guess my confusion here whether post-op pre-op some of you had differentials
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on there um and i any of you are welcome to if you have it oh going to you uh did you i don't know
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what your answer was to this no you didn't have you did not disagree on that um
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would you guys agree that uh homosexual means same sex
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yeah and straight is short form slang for heterosexual
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yeah and so when we say homosexual we mean same sex relationship
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uh you would agree that trans people have not changed their sex correct
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are you saying based on surgery or so just for the just for the sake of moving the argument forward
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and not like getting too bogged down i'm gonna go ahead and grant this isn't actually my position
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but i'll just grant for the sake of argument that transgender women have changed their gender
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so they used to be a man but now they're a woman their gender but you wouldn't say that they
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used to be male but they are now female correct they they have not changed their sex would you
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guys agree with that uh yes yes okay so still male they're they're so they're a transgender woman
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but they're still male correct um no i'd say now they're a female because they transitioned they're
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female okay um i'll get i'll before i respond to that i'll get everybody here uh
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are they a transgender woman is she male or female by gender identity they are a female by
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biological identity they are a male well no by gender identity they're a woman
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they're not female female pertains to sex okay female woman semi-interchangeable words
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i say these are my female friends right but i mean female points when i'm using in the context that
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i'm using it in fact i mean in any context male and female pertain to sex if i have trans friends
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i might call them these are my part of my female friends i'm not gonna be like these are my woman
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friends no i just say these are my female friends it's not gonna well i suppose that has to do with
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the flow of language less so than like the actual definition right so i i say female and i don't tend
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to say okay but assuming we're taught when we're talking about male and female assuming we're talking
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about sex do you grant that the transgender woman is not female biologically due to what is
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all going on in their body unless in some ways they might be this weird in between because estrogen
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well there's intersex but i'm not talking about intersex i mean more so because parts of you change
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and stuff like that your hormones and stuff like that goes more female biologically when you're on
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estrogen so it really just depends but base by base they would be biologically male because if
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they had to go to the doctors and get something done or if they had something it'd be viewed on a
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male basis standpoint uh lexi going to you um is it transgender woman are they uh male or female
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i honestly don't think i know much about this topic to have an opinion okay sure that's fine um
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you would i mean perhaps i can reframe the question a little bit you would agree that uh when
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people change their gender they're not changing their sex can you i i just don't i'm not i don't
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really know the concrete definitions of gender how about this um you know like chromosomes right
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yeah um is there any procedure to change your chromosomes from male to female not that i know of
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but uh cena uh transgender women are they male or female
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as it relates to their sex i guess the way that you said it they're still male
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what about you female they're female yes okay so they change their sex then
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however they see themselves as now i would i would go as as well so if they see themselves
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but what if they're not female and they're male but they see themselves as female well are they
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male or are they transgender female they're trans no they're transgender woman uh-huh but are they
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male or female i would say female so if you were to do a test for example and this is a test that you
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can do which allows you to determine some of these chromosomes would they have xx or xy chromosomes
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they would have male chromosomes so they're male then but i would say female but you can't change your sex
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so okay how about this a couple more questions on this so if you're if two males are having sexual intercourse
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are you asking me yeah we'll go around this way if two males are having sex is that heterosexual or is
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it homosexual homosexual it's homosexual okay homosexual i agree hello oh uh i guess you
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if it's two two males if it's two males who both say they are males well so hold on it could be two males
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one is i hate this term cis male cis man and the other is a transgender woman well then that changes it
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for me would that change it for the rest of you too no i don't know that term what's the term
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cis born male still male i don't like the term but uh like i normal i don't know i don't know what's
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appropriate but born male like a regular okay man i'll know how to not be offensive but like how do we
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differentiate between transgender like a not transgender we have to refer to normal male as
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a not transgender man i don't know um man i suppose um going to you uh if two males are having sex is this
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heterosexual or homosexual if they both identify as male and then their sex is male then one is a
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man and the other is a transgender woman but they're both male no it's not homosexual but they're both
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male medically yes biologically they're both male so just to be clear you you are you arguing that you
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can change your sex no i guess i i realized what i said previously i would say no from a medical
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standpoint you can't change your sex okay well there's i mean i don't think there's really
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any context you can change your sex because sex points to your underlying me earlier okay i'm just
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who are engaged in a sexual relationship how can that ever be classed as anything but homosexual
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if a guy says they like anyone who identifies as female or are female okay he would call
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i'll engage a bit further then so how do i want to frame it um is it straight for a male who is not
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trans to have sex with a male who is a transgender woman it's straight is it straight yes because you
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are saying that you like someone who is identifying as a female and presenting as a female um
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a man giving oral sex to a transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual or homosexual
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no heterosexual i mean you're i'm my strict basis and it's not going to change no matter what position
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they're in is that if you like someone if i like someone that is identifying as a male
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or any any male then i would be a straight it would be straight okay so uh i guess going to you
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you you you and you i'll ask this question also a man
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real quick so sucking your girlfriend's dick is straight yes let's okay uh a man giving oral sex to a
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transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual or homosexual i think partially depends on are they
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liking it as it's consensual well not i'm not questioning whether it's consensual or not
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um you can have consensual sex but not like part of maybe someone's let's say a kink even but
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if he is there and genuinely like he's going at that he likes doing that and he'd prefer having that
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rather than have her go through a surgery or something like that if he is holding the preference of i
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prefer to suck them off rather than like i'd prefer to do this then that's one thing because that's a
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little but i mean what so is a transgender woman still a woman pre-operative they're still a woman
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identifying so you said it would be straight for a a man to date a pre-operative trans woman right
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ergo sexual acts between them must certainly also be heterosexual right so again i asked the question
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a man giving oral sex to a transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual or homosexual
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like i said i think it depends i on what for example i've known someone who is trans um they
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were with this guy um and there are some guys who do who are basically closeted they're closeted and
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they're gay but they want they want a straight relationship they want to be straight so bad
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well help me help me out with something perhaps perhaps you guys can just assist me with this
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let's say a guy uh two guys are going to engage in sex right oral sex with each other and one of them
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just really likes to dress up like a woman while his boyfriend does the d the other one identifies as
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being a woman by while the boyfriend does the d zero can you actually tell me what the threshold breaker
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is here for why that's not literally the exact same thing
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because for the trans person that's their life that's their day-to-day that's not them dressing
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up for an act or something like that whereas for the male it's just a kink
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yeah but i mean i don't understand the act seems to me to be the exact same act no because they're
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doing that just because that's their it's not their preference it's not that they are like oh
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i am a woman they just enjoy dressing and are you wait are you asking are you saying they like
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to specifically dress up as a woman during a guy dresses up like a woman and has another guy suck
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his dick and then a woman or i'm sorry uh another man dresses up like a woman the exact same way but
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then says i actually believe i am one and a guy sucks his dick well how are they both not gay i don't i
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don't get that i assure the trans woman goes about their day-to-day life just as a woman whereas if
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this guy were to go into work he's probably not dressed like a woman so the only difference is
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the self-identification self-identification their day-to-day life that they have that trans women
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have to harshly commit to having that got it let's just see if this is true so let us assume for a
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moment that there's a man who does not identify as a woman but dresses all day long as a woman and
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acts as though he is a woman is he a woman not if he doesn't identify that way well then it's just a
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matter of self id so this would mean that i could literally roll over in the middle of the night and
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my wife could be like i'm a man and she would be one well there also comes body so i would be i would
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be engaged in homosexual sex if my wife said i identify as a man in the middle of sex would i then
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be a homosexual i would question the timing of her bringing that up why well but i don't understand
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if a man can spend his entire day dressed as a woman doing all the things a woman does but not
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identify as a woman and he's not but another man can do the exact same thing and the only difference
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is he identifies as a woman then the only thing that makes you a woman is that you identify as one
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well but it's not a choice you just have always felt that way prove it prove it's not a choice
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people as young as like eight or nine have said and expressed that they are not the gender they
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were born as does that oh i see so let me let me get this correct i just want to make sure i got this
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right uh do kids lie and are they often confused about sexual matters not like that yeah like that
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how would you know how many kids have you had zero like when you were a kid there wasn't kids who were
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around who had all sorts of questions about sex and were super confused about all sorts of different
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things in regards to sex i didn't have kids myself no but i have a plethora of younger siblings who are
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quite young still even now and no and they have no confusion whatsoever about what sex is how it works
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nothing like that they just have it all figured out huh they don't really just came out of the womb
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knowing about sex and how it all works i mean to be fair when you have that many siblings you kind of
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know how it works okay gotcha so if it all comes down to self id why couldn't somebody just
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in the middle of their journey as being a woman literally decide right there on the spot to take
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the wig off and dress in men's clothes and not be a man
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because are you saying that it's a random decision they've made or i'm asking you a question if a man
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was going through their life uh acting as though he was a woman doing all the things that you think
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a woman does and then in the middle of that journey decided to take off the wig and the dress and and
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put on khakis instead and act in every way a man does wouldn't he be a man then well the thing is
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they're not you say acting but they're not acting if you truly are trans that's not an act you're putting
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on anybody ever be able to know ogle donated 200 we have isn't the entire point of the left's views
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on this that gender and sex are different because one is immutable sex where gender is fluid but now
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they're saying you can change chromosomes wtf it's just rare to hear i mean even like trans activists
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don't make the claim that you can change your sex um so i just find that an interesting argument i
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guess you guys defend people but libertariat donated 200 yeah thank you man appreciate
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grinding away in rfc in the guilt but anyone here can see chair five is a pick me trying to pretend
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that her bangs look cute my bangs are to cover up my family's notorious big forehead they're not cute
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they're a cover up rip r.i.p andrew did you have more or yeah just just very briefly we'll uh we'll
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wrap it up very quickly if it's all based around self-identification why then if a man
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or if a person was going through life as though they were a man and said this is my identity and
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everything that i think my identity is and then halfway through go oh wait you know what it's actually
06:22:17.500
not and then put on khakis and a shirt wouldn't he then be a man if that's what they choose and
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they discover that later on then sure then all that really makes you a man or a woman is if you say you
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are if you say you are and then put in the work to go about your life as that gender okay so then
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that would mean that if you wanted to be an elf all you would need to do is go out to the forest and
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make yourself a bow in a little house and you know call yourself a sildur and you could you could be an
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elf right why couldn't you be elves don't exist well wait wait wait i'm sorry uh if a man can be a
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woman the woman ex parte here hang on the woman does not actually exist the man exists and is saying
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they are a woman and if they are a woman based on the fact they id as one that we have now made
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a woman who was not a woman before why couldn't we make an elf to put it in retrospect in this world
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we live in in this plane we call the universe and the earth there is men they exist there are
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women they exist elves don't exist in this realm of universe yeah but do you agree with me that a
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woman who does not exist does not exist i don't agree you don't agree that a woman who does not exist
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does not exist so a woman who does not exist exists if someone is trans no i answer my question don't
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refrain actually answer it does a woman who does not exist exist yes that's a literal contradiction
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the thing is if you're trans by the way that's a that's a violation of the laws of logic the law of
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non-contradiction it's incoherent it's nonsensical you might as well you might as well say something uh
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like um you know the uh the the sun and mars and the earth are all the same thing you might as
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i mean it's total incoherent babble let me ask you again can a woman who does not exist exist if
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you are wording it like that then yes but in my opinion trans women are always women they have been
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women since birth their sex may be male they may have x y chromosomes but typically if you are a trans
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woman you have always felt that way you've had body dysmorphia your whole life and you have always been
06:24:36.460
a woman inside what's a woman that's for every woman to decide what's a dog a dog is a dog yeah what is
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that though an animal okay whatever what else is it give me a definition of a dog i gotta let this in really
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quickly think about the definition though mrs ogle donated two hundred dollars mrs ogle we are be
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changing my gender mrs ogle oh there you go all right uh pronouns she her they them just real quick
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what's the definition of a dog oh he's back again i'll give you more time on the the dog definition okay
06:25:25.100
who's back again what are you talking about ogle's about to come back in
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ogle donated two hundred dollars thank you since they think immutable characteristics like sex are
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now modifiable based on what one feels can they say if it's possible to transition from white to black
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race as one feels throughout the day i mean since the beginning of this i have said biologically
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sex-wise they are still male i'm talking about gender identity that's what i've been saying the
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entire time can someone change their race no okay well i understand what if they identify as not being
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the race that they are you are the race that you are unless you have some crazy why are you the race
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that you are you can't identify as a race that you're not hang on let me ask the question why is it that
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you have to be the race you are and can't identify as a race you're not even though you might have been
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born experiencing everything that you think that that race experiences you can be culturally one
06:26:23.500
thing but not racially another thing okay so then you can be a trans woman but not a real you're not
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a real woman is that is that the same logic there no okay well then you i'm so confused again i'm sorry
06:26:38.060
why am i not black how come i'm not black you have a black wife andrew yeah i'm a black ex-wife but why
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am i not black ex-wife my bad i guess you weren't blessed like that i don't know you don't know why i'm
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not black you you actually don't know why i'm not black really i didn't want to make sure that we're
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clear i don't know you don't know why i'm not black i feel like stupid questions get stupid answers
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like ask a stupid question get a stupid answer so are you black no how do you know because i know
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yeah how i look at myself in the mirror oh okay so through this features your your features that you
06:27:22.860
you can clearly see that you cannot change you are that thing right mm-hmm can you then change
06:27:30.460
so can you ever be black if you let's do a hypothetical extreme if you were to undergo a
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crazy amount of procedures to try and achieve a look of a certain race you still would not look that race
06:27:46.380
because you would be so botched up there that's so no you can't you can't okay well let's do the
06:27:53.340
hypothetical the other way if you could do all sorts of surgeries and look like that race and i can give
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you examples where people have done this would you then be that race but you can't yeah but if you
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could but you can't yeah but if you could though i'm not going to answer a completely you're not going
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to answer because it destroys your whole stupid ass position so real quick it doesn't destroy
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my position if you could get a bunch of surgeries done that would change your race would you then
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or change the appearance of the race everybody who saw you would perceive you as being a black person
06:28:28.140
instead of a white person and medical technology had gone far enough that they could cosmetically
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make you look that way would you then be black it doesn't exist can you answer my question i just
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didn't hypothetical the entailment of a hypothetical is not whether it exists or not whether to test the
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logic of whether your logic exists or not so i want to see if your logic exists re-ask the question
06:28:50.540
when that becomes the case and that becomes a thing that exists if it were the case that this could
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happen would you then be that thing or not re-ask me when it comes to fruition why would that have
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anything to do with the answer to the question because i'm not here don't weasel just answer the
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question stop weaseling i just did you said no you answered the question by saying when that becomes
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a possibility it's a hypothetical i'm not going to think about something that's not
06:29:17.100
it's not worth my thoughts yes if superman existed would he be bullet it's not worth your
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thoughts because it destroys your worldview no because it's not something that can currently
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happen so i have no need to think about it okay great great that's fine if superman existed
06:29:29.020
would he be bulletproof he doesn't exist if leprechauns existed would they have a pot of gold
06:29:38.700
they don't exist if unicorns existed would they have a horn they don't exist so just
06:29:46.140
got it got it hang on if a rocket ship existed that could take us to mars would you go on it
06:29:52.220
she's when one comes to be made i might so you can't answer if a rocket ship existed that was going
06:30:01.580
to go to mars would you go on it you can't answer that because a rocket ship currently does not exist
06:30:06.060
that goes to mars really no i wouldn't be able to answer how could we ever envision any sort of
06:30:11.260
non-existent technology how people would use technology that doesn't exist how anything in
06:30:16.620
the world that's not created right now could ever be created if we could if we all we did was go well
06:30:22.060
it doesn't exist because i don't need hey you know what i want to do i want to make this uh this
06:30:27.180
kind of invisible cabled system where people can instantly send messages to each other oh yeah well
06:30:33.660
that doesn't exist like it does that does that make any coherent sense to you at all and those people
06:30:40.220
can do that and i cannot because it doesn't exist because i don't want to do you have any dead family
06:30:48.300
members sure do you ever talk about them no why not because they don't exist yeah
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oh uh dumb as a box of no but i i'm not gonna insult rocks like that don't don't
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okay all right um here i'll finish up on this then going around the table the question was
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um is a man giving oral sex to a transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual or homosexual
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lexi no opinion on this come on you've got no i don't i'm not a man so it what do you mean okay okay
06:31:28.940
here uh a lesbian woman being penetrated by a transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual
06:31:35.260
or homosexual i still don't have an opinion on this that's my answer i'm sorry okay a straight woman
06:31:41.500
scissoring with a transgender man is that heterosexual or homosexual i don't even think
06:31:51.420
i'm following along with where you are right now all right clearly um cena what about you
06:31:59.900
homo huh all right uh gianna what about you a man giving oral sex to a transgender woman with a penis
06:32:08.700
is that heterosexual or homosexual hetero that's straight okay uh and then really quick i guess
06:32:14.940
one more follow-up a man having penetrative anal sex with a transgender woman is that heterosexual or
06:32:28.940
are you really what just you you're catholic right okay
06:32:36.460
pause oh well yeah what you didn't have anything on this same opinion heterosexual
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for a man to be having uh same opinion as in it depends for for a man to be having penetrative anal
06:32:51.020
sex with a transgender woman is heterosexual depends moving on what about you in my opinion which is what
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into the mic which is that if you're one gender and someone presents as opposite gender whatever act
06:33:11.500
you do with them will be heterosexual i'm just okay look straight is short form slang for heterosexual
06:33:19.020
i so i don't know how these acts could ever be heterosexual if it's two males engaging in the
06:33:24.220
sexual act um this is a really novel position i perhaps you guys want to be politically correct
06:33:31.420
even transgender activists activists don't hold this position i know you guys are trying to be woke
06:33:39.180
and politically correct even transgender activists don't hold this position i don't know why you guys
06:33:44.940
have dug your heels in so far on this in any case um
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that's all i have to say i mean you guys just outright reject science yeah we have to correct
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you're literally science rejecters yeah you're science deniers you're science deniers
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i i don't know how else to say it like biology is this is not up for negotiation
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if two males are having sex it is homosexual it cannot be heterosexual it cannot be straight
06:34:27.740
and in fact as a straight male i find it offensive that you guys are essentially attacking my sexuality
06:34:34.060
how the turntables have turned how the tables have turned the turntables how the turntables
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how the turntables have turned no but it is interesting tables are turning
06:34:47.340
as they turn like if i were to say to like a man who's gay i was like no you're not gay you're actually
06:34:53.340
straight you guys be like whoa that's like that's like uh uh gay conversion therapy that's totally
06:34:59.820
unethical but like for you guys to sit here and tell me a straight man that you're questioning my
06:35:06.220
sexuality and you're saying that a sex act between two males is straight you're attacking my sexuality
06:35:12.700
and i find it deeply offensive we have a question in fact furthermore hold on hold on tiffany
06:35:17.980
he's on a roll hold on i want to add that because all of you believe that this all comes down to id
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i hold on i choose to identify as the correct person on this matter and i wish for all of you
06:35:32.460
to affirm my identity as correct on this matter and all matters moving forward please affirm my identity
06:35:40.380
you want me to just i want you to affirm my identity as being correct on this matter and that
06:35:45.100
you were wrong that's my identity um go ahead affirm it i'll say your identity is affirmed
06:35:52.140
okay thank you do you affirm my identity cena thank you for affirming lexi do you affirm my identity
06:36:00.380
i think i don't know it would be bigoted for you not to affirm my identity pos do you affirm my
06:36:04.860
you are straight the most bigoted not as a straight man i don't want you to affirm my identity as a
06:36:10.220
straight man i want you to affirm my identity as the correct person on this matter okay yes thank you
06:36:17.180
for affirming chloe do you affirm my identity wow that is a bigot right there ellen do you affirm
06:36:21.900
my identity as the correct person on this matter
06:36:28.060
i just don't really have an opinion on oh my god do you do you affirm my identity do you affirm his
06:36:34.140
identity that you can't have a uh or not have an opinion on this do you affirm that identity do you
06:36:40.540
affirm my identity i would just prefer not to speak on this topic do you believe in science
06:36:48.460
i believe in science can you tell us the scientific method
06:36:55.100
does the seven scientific met like like that yeah yeah just the scientific method yeah
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i can't list it off for you right now okay we have a question go ahead tiffany what if you were to have
06:37:07.420
sex with a trans man would that be gay no yes no it wouldn't yes no no no a man i thought she said
06:37:17.580
a man she said no she said trans so it's a female oh yeah it's a female no it wouldn't be gay but it
06:37:23.260
would not be it'd just be like having sex with a butch chick it'd be like having i guess so yeah how
06:37:30.780
about this would i prefer having sex with a trans woman or a trans man what do you what do you think
06:37:35.500
about that one that's a good question answer it yeah trans man well hold on i think if you have
06:37:43.340
anybody who says that they're trans you're gay that's my uh that's fair that's actually kind of
06:37:49.900
fair but like so here's my reasoning they're all part of the lgbtq right that's what they say
06:37:56.300
so then necessarily wouldn't they be gay the hulk hogan argument like hulk hogan with a vagina or megan
06:38:04.780
fox with a penis yeah i mean you got if it's between trans man trans woman i'd he'd pick the
06:38:11.420
trans man you know just anyways okay whatever moving on oh final thing on this uh going around
06:38:16.620
the table just because i feel like it's important uh what is a woman um a female oh
06:38:24.460
oh wait is that a w a woman is a female yeah oh you simple okay
06:38:35.740
a female creature a creature okay can you come back to me sure what is a woman pause um
06:38:42.940
how would i describe it um like feminine okay what is a woman a woman is a woman uh try to i mean
06:38:55.820
typically in the dictionary you would not like a cat the dictionary huh i'm not the dictionary okay
06:39:01.180
but so what is a woman though a woman try to just try to define woman without using the word woman
06:39:07.660
i don't want to why why can't you because i don't have to well you don't have to but ellen
06:39:25.100
an older or more mature girl it's just like a later stage in life
06:39:31.260
which sex do they belong to but you asked me to give you the definition which i gave you
06:39:37.180
right but i'm asking for that's that's true to be fair to you that is true you did you did uh
06:39:43.420
give a definition but when you give a definition usually you're you're going after you're pointing
06:39:49.660
to some kind of information which tells us what the thing is so if you say a woman is a girl
06:39:59.660
i answered the previous question i would like to leave it at that
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oh damn bro all right what is a woman a woman is someone who identifies as a woman and it's
06:40:11.260
feminine presenting a biological female is biological female
06:40:18.060
can you i think that's a pretty that's a pretty good standard progressive answer i think
06:40:23.260
but can you define woman without using the word woman
06:40:25.660
feminine feminine feminine so like a non-transgender man who is feminine is a woman
06:40:38.540
i'm just saying this could be a straight straight man who's just feminine
06:40:42.780
no is he a woman no uh because you just said feminine i'm just saying they have to be feminine and
06:40:48.540
identify as a woman what if it what if the transgender woman is not feminine are they i
06:40:55.980
okay well you asked me not to include the word woman i was i was trying not to all right
06:41:01.260
uh all right i got some chats here uh we have ogle
06:41:06.140
ogle donated 200 do you mean chair six or chair why not just kick chair five off if she won't
06:41:11.500
participate anymore my eds sister i'm disappointed in you boom you guys ever hear that shania twain
06:41:20.220
song i feel like a woman anybody feel like i don't know any have any girls ever heard that song
06:41:27.180
yeah feels like a woman yeah is that how it goes i mean i don't know sing it andrew sing it for
06:41:32.380
us i mean no no in falsetto in falsetto hopeless than myself but when shania twain is saying
06:41:40.300
i feel like a woman in that song do you think she's saying like i feel like a dude who's dressed
06:41:45.260
up like me like do you think that that's what she's getting at in that song and she's like
06:41:50.780
she's like uh she's talking about uh you know somebody with with a penis who's dressed up like
06:41:57.420
a woman and acts like a woman or do you think she's talking about something else when she said i feel
06:42:01.020
like a woman it's crazy you know all right um i'm gonna let some other chats come through
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pale and well met yo thank you paladin lol paladins donated two hundred dollars and two cents
06:42:11.500
a woman is a woman who would define the word woman by using the word woman and also say women
06:42:17.340
when talking about a singular woman that sounds really regressive lol paladins why are you giving
06:42:23.820
us regressive definitions like a woman points to a woman to a woman is a woman and that's what a woman
06:42:29.660
is anything that says it's a woman because that's a woman that sounds regressive like the opposite of
06:42:35.580
a definition like something that should be rejected as a definition but what the hell do i know
06:42:43.260
okay we have also not a simp here chloe you read this one for us
06:42:50.060
did we get an eye patch photo by the way damien can you chloe can you read it no i genuinely can't
06:42:56.140
see okay andrew i don't like how you get so mean to people in these debates i don't really care though
06:42:59.820
but if you ever hurt my goth mommy oh no no that's her goth mommy the knuckle sandwich you'll get i
06:43:05.260
thought he was talking about chloe why she's uh she's been awesome the whole panel she's engaged in
06:43:09.740
every question she seems like she's interested she's been she's been great to talk to the goth mommy
06:43:15.020
yeah she's the one well the one he's referring to yeah yeah i'm usually uh the only time it ever gets
06:43:21.420
aggressive is if people are like um you know being evasive or refuse to answer basic questions i can
06:43:27.580
understand if there was a loaded question or like tell us your mom's name and your address and you're
06:43:32.060
like a refuse to answer that seems totally fair to me you know what i mean but it was just like
06:43:36.380
did you go out on a date two weeks ago and you're like i don't know about that re-answering that seems
06:43:41.180
a little less like correct on a dating podcast you know what i mean so yeah and it can it can get
06:43:47.100
aggressive back and forth in some of these debates i agree but i don't i don't take any of it
06:43:50.460
personally i don't think most of the women here take it personally i wonder if this is a differential
06:43:54.540
between men and women in so far as like men are willing to have these kinds of conversations
06:44:00.540
and like women are not willing to offend because like they operate what's that did you see andrew have
06:44:05.580
you seen that uh uh it was this post about like women filter things through a consensus filter do you
06:44:12.460
know what i'm talking about yeah i do i'm i'm never you know the thing is like i'm never too sure
06:44:18.140
on those things i think that they sound good to us but you know i've noticed that if you talk to women
06:44:25.260
like by themselves when there's not other women around they're kind of based a lot of them are
06:44:29.660
kind of based they're like yeah they ain't no fucking chick like what are you talking they ain't no guy
06:44:33.740
over there but if they're around a group of other women they're like well you know i'm not really sure
06:44:38.620
if i've been so maybe there is some truth to it you know what i mean yeah you're talking to them
06:44:43.580
solo suddenly they're like oh hell no that ain't you know it's just it's a strange phenomenon okay
06:44:48.700
we have brian rookard hey thank you for the soup chat man really appreciate it to the future
06:44:52.060
anesthesiologist there are differences in dosages between men and women with respect to certain
06:44:57.020
medicines so biological woman comes in but identifies as trans man you give her male dose killer but you
06:45:03.420
were just bowing to her wishes do you want to respond to that really quick i realized that i misspoke
06:45:08.380
earlier like when you're asking me can sex be interchangeable and i said yes um i misspoke
06:45:13.820
i didn't understand the question so no you meant you meant gender gender is fluid sex is not like
06:45:19.580
biologically yes yeah that makes sense yeah yeah they're easy to confuse i get that so um by that
06:45:26.300
definition if they're biologically male or female yes in medicine they would be treated differently based
06:45:31.980
on dosages of medicines and um biologically how they are so no i'm not going to give them the wrong dose
06:45:37.020
based on what they identify as okay uh so let me ask you this if all if there was a virus that only
06:45:46.700
took out women and only killed women right would trans women die a virus that only killed women yeah
06:45:57.420
if there was a virus that only killed biologically female no no it only killed women
06:46:03.100
would trans women would trans women would trans women die i don't it does a virus understand gender
06:46:13.900
identity i don't like yeah so if so if there was a virus that only killed women would trans women die from
06:46:21.820
that virus i a virus that only killed women of that would mean a virus that only killed by like
06:46:31.260
biologically female so then we've established that a woman so then we've established that a woman
06:46:37.100
is a biological female no i'm saying from a medical standpoint which is what the previous person was
06:46:42.060
asking a biological female is a biological female so if a virus was going to attack a biological female
06:46:47.900
then yeah no the trans person yeah but what was my question my question was if women if it was women
06:46:56.860
only who could die by a virus would trans women also die
06:47:03.740
i just don't think that your question makes sense in a science way why it's because you're because i we
06:47:10.540
clearly defined that sex is sex and gender is gender and now you know but we never defined what a woman is so
06:47:16.700
so so if women if i were to tell you for instance if i were to tell you tomorrow there's going to be
06:47:22.060
a virus escape from a lab in wuhan okay and it only only uh affects women and and uh takes out women
06:47:33.500
right would would would you worry about any of your trans neighbors if a virus suddenly became sentient and
06:47:41.740
understood the difference between sex and gender then yes now there's viruses which specifically
06:47:45.660
only attack women and some that all specifically attack men that is true there are some viruses that
06:47:51.740
are that way so if you had a virus that only attacked women could it attack trans women um i just
06:47:58.940
i think that um i pretty much answered your question that sex yeah but it's a category error right so
06:48:05.580
if it if it can only take out women but it can't take out trans women then we'd have to
06:48:09.500
establish that trans women aren't women i don't think a virus can do that but if it but if it could
06:48:16.220
if it could only take out women if it only took out females who we call women then necessarily would
06:48:22.380
trans women have anything to worry about i don't really want to follow this hypothetical because i was
06:48:26.620
strictly viewing it from a standard like a science standpoint so oh okay all right well moving off of
06:48:33.740
that specific uh specific topic uh going to chloe here in your notes you said you were 50 50 on if
06:48:41.020
men are physically stronger than women yeah i think men and women carry their strengths in different
06:48:46.140
areas of them so it means uh well physically stronger yeah women and men carry their physical
06:48:51.660
strengths in different areas of their body women are going to be stronger in some physical aspects
06:48:55.020
than men are and men are going to be stronger in other aspects such as women are for example i mean
06:49:01.260
it's no denying women have more strength in their legs naturally than guys tend to have we are more
06:49:08.540
prone to having more natural strength in our legs whereas guys have a naturally more stronger upper body
06:49:14.700
portion women dominate sports erroneous erroneous women dominate which sports woman i'm not specifying a
06:49:23.420
single sport woman dominate sports that have to do with leg strength whether or flexibility like soccer
06:49:31.740
yeah actually so um so just to correct this remember make sure that we're on the same page
06:49:40.700
females have a higher proportion in lean mass in their lower limbs so they have stronger limbs by 0.1
06:49:48.380
men still have a significant amount of muscle strength difference in their legs than women
06:49:53.420
women are stronger in some aspects physically than men are and men are stronger in some aspects
06:50:00.060
more physically than women are that's what i'm stating well if this so according to webmd directly
06:50:05.580
the question was asked is it true that women have stronger legs than men the response from a doctor i would
06:50:11.500
assume no men have generally stronger leg muscles than women the only disparity between men and women is
06:50:20.300
um is um is in limbs um is in limbs that's it women are stronger in some ways physically than men are
06:50:28.620
men are stronger in some ways what ways physically that's simply what i'm stating the legs yeah but what
06:50:33.660
what ways physically are they stronger in my personal viewpoint i have seen many women
06:50:40.540
beat a man physically and i've seen not beat them as in beat them but beat them as in like beat them in
06:50:46.700
a physical aspect just yeah i don't disagree that there's not some women out there who couldn't beat
06:50:53.020
up some men i totally agree with that right i mean i've i've seen videos of it i'm sure that it happens
06:50:58.860
um i'm sure that it happens i'm sure that there's some women out there who can beat up um a good majority
06:51:04.780
of men even there's some women who could do that but if we're talking about the average if we're just
06:51:09.500
asking about the average i'm talking on average on average are men or women stronger i'm talking about
06:51:15.900
the totality of it so yeah so average so am i so so an average would be the totality of the mean right
06:51:25.340
the totalities and are all men stronger no that's not the question that's not what's the
06:51:31.500
what can you repeat the question so the the statement is and it's asking if they disagree
06:51:36.220
or agree men are physically stronger than women it doesn't say most it says are men
06:51:45.180
i mean is it wrong to say the sky is blue sometimes the sky is gray
06:51:52.780
so then when the sky is gray the sky is gray right but so typically when you make a statement
06:51:57.740
like this for example do humans have 10 fingers yes do some people have birth defects that they're
06:52:03.980
born with an extra digit yes or have a finger cut off if someone were to ask me do humans have 10
06:52:09.900
fingers i would say sometimes most of the time most of the time okay so generally speaking are men
06:52:18.460
physically stronger than women i in my personal encounters i've met more strong women than i've
06:52:24.540
met strong men so my standpoint okay if we were no you have it in your personal
06:52:37.740
in your personal experience you've met more strong women than you have men really i mean she could be
06:52:45.180
hanging out with a bunch of like soy boys so i mean it could be true bro it could be true bro like all
06:52:51.660
her male friends are so soy boys how much more ridiculous i'm gonna have to listen to from this
06:52:57.740
woman you know most in your life you have most definitely met way more men who are stronger than
06:53:05.340
way more women no yes and if you don't want ridiculous nonsense okay well let's find out you
06:53:11.180
grew up i still have your little hometown here right i still have your little hometown here um would you
06:53:16.860
say that on average the black women in your hometown were on average stronger than the black
06:53:22.700
men in your hometown was i hanging out a bunch with people no you said you were you said that in fact
06:53:30.620
you said you hung out with them so much that you wouldn't even date within your own race i didn't
06:53:35.980
say that yeah you you did no i didn't say yes no i said i wouldn't date within my own race you said you
06:53:44.060
went to a school which was overwhelmingly black my assumption is then that most people that you
06:53:50.300
associated with were likely black am i incorrect there i went to a real school for a very short
06:53:55.900
period of time because as i also said before i was mostly homeschooled so now hail and well met lol
06:54:01.500
paladins donated two hundred dollars and two cents even soy boy california burrito fatty to brian
06:54:08.540
to do more push-ups than the entire rest of the panel combined oh boy so when you went to this
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school was it your experience at the school that more women at the school were stronger than the men
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didn't go to a real school for a long period of time so i'm not talking i know but for the period
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of time that you did go was your i didn't talk to anyone i went to like not even a full year yeah i
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know so it within that time that you were there i didn't talk to people there yeah so within that time
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frame there's no experience yeah so within that time frame was it your experience that the men or
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the women were stronger on average my standpoint still stands i'm not changing it can i let me
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explore it really quick if that's if that's fine andrew um unless you have more you do you want more or
06:54:55.020
well i i just um this is like this is unfathomable like you don't even have to double down on these
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positions they're so stupid even the women who are listening to you are like what is this chick
06:55:06.940
talking about it's insanity here just like look let me demonstrate a show of hands just quick show
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of hands easy uh can anybody raise your hand if it was your experience when you went to school
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that the boys were usually stronger than the girls just by a quick quick hand raise i don't know you might
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get the sisterhood on this one no i don't think i'm gonna get the sisterhood you got the sisterhood from her
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uh so here i'll explore it really quick just like get a couple examples out of the way um soccer
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uh you said like uh lower body strength women have more lower body strength leg strength
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so you would expect to see like soccer which is a like mostly like lung capacity though
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okay so not soccer then like the the the women out compete the men in soccer i think women are
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better at soccer than men yes and let me real quick brian i just want to make sure you get this
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correction uh women are not so i just had this researched out because you know the answer women
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are not stronger in their lower body if they're only stronger in their lower body in proportion to their
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own upper body not in comparison to men's lower body okay yeah yeah no i know exactly and also andrew i
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mean i know you say it's ridiculous but like remember that one girl who said that her mom
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could beat up brock lesnar i mean it's not as ridiculous as that of course yeah but the thing
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is is like when i know that a person when i know that a person knows themselves that they're full of
06:56:42.780
shit i just lose interest right it's like once i know that the person themselves knows
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i just you know i'll skip it sorry go ahead go ahead i didn't mean to trigger that go i was just
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saying once i once i know that the person themselves knows that they're full of shit i
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just lose interest it's like it's like no longer interesting all right ogle coming in here it's gonna
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take a sec to come back ogle thank you for the tts man really appreciate it so women better at soccer
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soccer i think so okay so what if i told you they've actually like done this experiment ogle's about to
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come in they've done this experiment where they'll match up like a professional female
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soccer team with like ogle donated two hundred dollars chair five is such a strong argument
06:57:24.780
against homeschooling were you homes you were homeschooled yeah
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wow okay we have lol paladins coming in here in just a sec but so they've run this experiment
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they'll set up a professional a women's professional soccer team they might have even done it maybe with the
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the i don't know if it was the olympic team but like olympic team maybe not in the u.s but in uh
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they've done various other countries they'll pair the professional adult women's soccer team
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with like the 15 year old boys and the 15 year old boys will smoke the women
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that's embarrassing yeah smoke them and i've said this whole time in my personal experience
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right but sometimes your personal experience doesn't map on to like but we're asking about
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my opinion so that's my opinion right but like you could have your own personal experiences and
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still be able to like like for example like as a woman you could be the strongest woman in the world
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right not you but like you okay picture the strongest woman in the world right she's the
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strongest woman in the world she's actually probably runs into men there's a good chance that she's
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actually stronger than a lot of the men that she encounters she would still be wrong to say that
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women are stronger than men right i'm not saying women are stronger necessarily than men all in all
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or that men are stronger all in all i'm saying they're each stronger in their own ways well yeah but
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we're asking how and you're not really presenting a compelling argument because they are so you said
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women's lower body strength so like for example uh in my experience do you go to the gym at all
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do you work out yes do you do squats not squats no you are you familiar with the exercise yes so
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you know how there's like world records for like i don't pay attention to that okay so if i were to
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tell you that there's no woman the world record holder for the woman's squat across all weight divisions
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no woman lifts more in the squat which has to do with your lower body strength
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than even probably the top 100 men who's who are the top in terms of their squat
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well there's also different types of physical strengths that would be
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gym weight strength whereas there's also practical strength there's also strength as in fighting their
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strength as in hey actually that's fair you know if women on average are as strong or stronger than men
06:59:53.020
as you previously stated and you changed your answer just now then why did you pick the bear
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you can just kick the man's ass right i picked the bear because i want to play with a bear oh my gosh
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oh okay okay uh hold on lol paladins is coming in here thank you lol sorry and well met lol paladins
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donated two hundred dollars and two cents the only thing keeping women safe is the fact that the vast
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majority of men are actually not bad men if any man wanted to hurt you they could take comfort that
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men do not want to hurt women not 40 percent that is an interesting point the benevolence of men um
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wait so hold on going back to this you said like for fighting women would are stronger like women can
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no i simply say that there are many different kinds of physical strengths but you mentioned fighting
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i said there's practical strength i said there's weight strength as in like going to the gym how
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much can you weigh so what would be an example of practical strength lifting up a box
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how long can someone stand on their feet all day when they're working a shift how there's tons of stuff
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women have higher pain tolerance yeah okay all right i got i'm just gonna save time
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strength i'll just move it on and in brian um i'm at uh i'm at 3 a.m my time um so i got i got my
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hard cut at three um yeah shoot us a raid man thank you by the way andrew yeah i'm gonna send the raid
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over for create your world of warcraft character and we're doing it we're doing it once when are we
07:01:27.260
playing next they're playing you just hop in whenever you feel like it yeah just create your
07:01:34.700
character you're what undead mage i think i'm gonna do the uh i think i'm gonna do a priest no andrew
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i'm kidding i'm kidding not yeah yeah well i mean look we need healers you know we need healers so
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yeah you always gotta have healers all right all right i appreciate it very much brian you have a
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good night yeah it's very nice to meet all of you thank you andrew for joining us appreciate it
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thank you thank you andrew i really appreciate it all right have a good night andrew thank you for uh
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joining us oh wait andrew andrew andrew i'm here i'm here oh really quick last thing last thing
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uh really quick did you want to address like you wanted to respond to michael we'll do it another
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time tuesday we'll do tuesday yeah yeah we'll do perfect sounds all right sounds good all right man
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good night all right we have two chats here coming in cena i'm gonna have you read it go ahead
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it's funny that she has to differentiate the scientific belief which are different than her religious
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beliefs she knows scientifically that men and women are different but against
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woke woke dogma thank you uh lopalans appreciate it talking about i'm not sure to be honest lucas go
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ahead dear god this girl is a tard can you track down those videos on youtube where men compete against
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women especially the four times 400 mixed relay someone has strong feelings about the four by 400
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mixed relay that's what i'm gathering from this i mean question for you when it comes to racing
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right uh racing yeah like running running yeah okay what about like sprints do you think like men or
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women i think that fully depends on how much you train for it sorry could you repeat that i think that
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fully depends on how much you train for that okay so a woman who trains the hardest versus a man
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who trains the hardest well and then it would depend how much you're born with natural talent in it
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and that's dependent on every person not gender
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who currently holds the world record for don't know don't know if i told you as a man
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then on that standpoint then he was that during that moment you do realize that um the world record
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holder for the women's 100 meter sprint she wouldn't even qualify to compete with the men you understand
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this right i don't watch running right but so i've just presented to you with a fact the world record
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holder of all time when it comes to the women's 100 meter she would not even qualify to be able to
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compete against the men i think that partially has to do with expectations all throughout time
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let's take gymnastics for an example gymnastics used to be a much simpler sport than it is today
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but as sports develop running running point a point b straight line as fast as you can what i'm getting
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there the expectations of this very very big thing that you have to train even harder for men
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well for one i'm sure i don't know the actual statistics of this or the facts of this but
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i'm sure men have done sports for a longer time competitively than women have what um women have been
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in the olympics since i'm not talking about the olympics i'm talking about in general anyhow
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okay so just to be clear a woman who a woman who's been sprinting her whole life versus a man
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who's been sprinting her whole life i think we place more importance usually on men's sports in
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our society that's seen by soccer in as well you always hear about male soccer stars you don't really
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tend to hear as much that's because the men are better no not really yes really um so the
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market dictates the market dictates reality the expectations do you watch soccer yes really yes
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name a name a woman soccer player i can't name any soccer player really because if i were to ask a man
07:05:39.980
who watches soccer he could tell me a hundred male soccer players you can't name one and you watch
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women's soccer can you name a team the barcelona team i watch them the barcelona team yeah do you
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you watch the united states team no i don't watch stuff she only watches the what's the name of the
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barcelona fcb huh fcb you barca oh men's soccer no they have a woman team is it's i don't know i don't
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watch women's it's still called it's barca for the women they don't have different names there's barca
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can you name one female soccer player i can't name a female or male i watch them play i don't
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care who they are ronaldo i can't name one other than one you hear constantly in the media no
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and the one you hear constantly are all male no how are the girls at this table not like what the
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fuck are you talking about i hear two names constantly chris ronaldo chris you know whatever
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and messy but i usually hear that from people so female sprinters for no reason back to this
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female sprinters have not had the same opportunities as male sprinters opportunities
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so is there sexism in sprinting is that no i said expectancy so if women if there's more expectation
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on women to run faster they would train harder they'd have to and they would be able to beat the men possibly
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ellen do me one solid bro i know ellen you don't want to like talk about this shit bro just like
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look at her and be like just tell her like yo you're fucking retarded just say it for me please
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don't say i'm kidding don't say that that's such a not really polite statement to say to somebody
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like even if i sorry even if you believe she was retarded i mean she can hold her own beliefs i have
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my opinions what are your opinions on this you don't have to call her the r word that was that
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was wrong of me i just feel like she can hold her own opinions i don't agree with them but that's
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she wrong though factually i mean there's my opinion there's her opinion i can share my opinion but that's
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that's the limit what just curious why don't you want to like risk offense um
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um you know i i would like have like high career aspirations um and i don't want to offend anybody
07:08:04.540
like you you think it would be it would impact your career prospects for you to say that generally
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speaking men are stronger than women and when it comes to various sporting events women just cannot
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compete with men i just i mean i told you i have my opinion and i just don't think that's even
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controversial to say it's just reality why'd you come on this podcast if you don't want to say
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controversial stuff if i'm being honest i came here because my friend invited me and i didn't want to
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say no honestly wait whatever here so okay whatever look um i don't know i don't know uh there is something
07:08:49.660
to be said about like the unwillingness to like speak the truth i just find that interesting to be
07:08:58.220
fair when joining the podcast i had this pretense that it was going to be majority about dating where
07:09:07.900
it's mostly significant substantially more so about politics and i agree with that and that has been
07:09:14.140
very misleading and kind of i mean chloe you've been trying to get on the show for like i don't
07:09:18.940
know exactly when you first messaged us on instagram then you got sick and you had to cancel um you've
07:09:25.260
been trying to get on the show for a while so you've been aware of sitting here being march 24th is when
07:09:31.020
march 24th you sent us a message on the instagram page and then after that i didn't get sick in any
07:09:36.460
case i mean you have plenty of time to investigate the nature of the podcast um but we are told
07:09:43.100
something i take it as you say it's a dating podcast it's going to be about dating it's going to be about
07:09:53.420
that substantially and majority especially since the name of it and whatnot is literally a dating podcast
07:09:59.580
you don't come on expecting to mostly talk about whether something's gay or not gay that has to do
07:10:07.020
with dating the genesis of the question was is it straight for a man but it's more politically aligned
07:10:14.700
and it's not so much that has to do how'd you find out about this podcast i simply saw
07:10:21.100
that they were looking for people online that's all
07:10:23.500
all right sleepy bear donated 200 she's only proving that she's the type of liar willing to
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lie to cover a lie there's no way she believes women are stronger than men
07:10:39.580
here we actually there's a damien there's a thing you can pull up super quick on this it's in the
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i'm trying to find where it is it's called uh you can just type the url boysversuswomen.com
07:10:51.180
and like i don't know if this is going to be compelling to you but it's like um
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i think it should could maybe i never talked about the general aspect i've been saying this
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whole time in my personal experience the woman i know have been stronger than the men i know
07:11:08.060
okay that's fine so this is boys versus men so this is male high school athletes
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male high school athletes versus female olympians so i believe this is comparing u.s high school
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athletes not international versus female olympians from every single country the overall medal count
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would be as follows if you had just the male high school athletes compete against female olympians
07:11:36.140
scroll down uh track and field scroll down a bit more track and field scroll down just a teeny bit
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yeah that's good that's good it's going to reorder it okay so if you had uh boys compete against
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uh the olympic women's finalists the boys would take the first eight places for the hundred meter the 200
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this is not male olympians versus female olympians this is high school boys 400 meters they take the
07:12:18.220
first eight places 800 meters they take the first eight places scroll down
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so women do beat out the men the excuse me the boys excuse me in the 5 000 meters there actually
07:12:35.180
something to indicate that like for distance women can sometimes like edge out men a little
07:12:39.980
bit uh 400 meter hurdles uh my but the comparison here is between boys i believe if it was uh women
07:12:48.140
versus men uh the men would still win for the 5 000 meters if they were both male olympians 400
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meter hurdles uh they take all the first eight places scroll down four times 100 meter relay we're
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going to skip down a little further after this one too uh they take the first two places the first
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then eight scroll all the way down let's go to swimming pole vault high jump actually wait uh go back up to
07:13:13.100
the one up high jump pole vault the boy the high school boys beat the female olympians scroll down
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so uh more more scroll down track and field swimming let's look at swimming for a bit all right
07:13:29.580
they take the first eight places take all the they take all the top places scroll down
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this is for the 200 you're a swimmer right ellen i am a swimmer okay all right uh the boys out
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compete the female olympians in the what is the lc that's long course long course okay uh they take the
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all three medals in the 400 long course scroll down this is the 800 long course 100 long course meter
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backstroke they take first and second they take okay next uh scroll down a little further just keep
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okay now scroll down scroll down further further further further i'm just going to skip some of the
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swimming stuff is there anything no that's pretty much it so it's track field uh swimming is this
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compelling to you at all like i said prior this is about my opinion which relates to my experiences and
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i've answered that that is through my experiences so my answer still stands through my experiences
07:14:42.620
that answer still stands okay all right i'm gonna move off that but um it's a interest certainly an
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interesting take uh we're gonna do just a few more here then we're gonna wrap up the show uh women
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should be drafted cena disagrees gianna she's in favor of the female draft good for you
07:15:05.180
lexi disagrees with women being drafted pos disagrees with women being drafted chloe you disagree that
07:15:12.060
women should be drafted ellen no opinion no surprise there um you are in favor of women being drafted
07:15:21.180
good for you you feminist you alissa you disagree that women should be drafted tiffany you disagree women
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should be drafted uh don't you think for the sake of equality lexi that women should be drafted that
07:15:34.140
seems fair right yeah but if everyone is being drafted it's kind of i feel like there would be a
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pretty big disruptancy if we're talking like war right yeah war so if there's a big big big decline in women
07:15:51.260
then when there wouldn't be why do we value women more than men because
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probably for the sake of childbearing that's interesting okay
07:16:10.140
but we can't have children without men so that's why i think women should as well
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but all right just me i'm gonna move off of that one for the sake of time um lexi you were iffy on uh
07:16:27.980
women are not oppressed trying to see who else was on women
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no opinion from her uh you said avantika you said women are not you disagree that women are not oppressed
07:16:48.380
um just curious how are how are women oppressed
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um i maintain the same standpoint that i've always had that um you know there are still certain
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expectations of women they're like i feel that you know like women they can't i guess have the same
07:17:08.540
career goals aspirations what do you mean they can't i mean they're told not to what do you mean
07:17:15.100
it's totally the contrary everything in society you think like the messaging that andrew or are you
07:17:20.780
talking about women in the u.s or across the world because across the world not universally i can't
07:17:26.620
speak to the specifics of like ethiopian gender politics but yeah within the u.s within the u.s
07:17:33.580
yeah are women oppressed i think in terms of reproductive rights right now they are being
07:17:38.620
oppressed on another basis no anything else just the reproductive are men oppressed on the basis of
07:17:44.700
reproductive rights in the united states based on the previous line of questioning yes okay you're
07:17:52.380
consistent uh lexi any thoughts on that uh you said that you're maybe iffy about the women's
07:17:58.220
oppression i don't think women are really oppressed in the united states okay all right let's see what
07:18:05.180
else uh going to back to avantika i apologize am i saying your name correctly yeah okay uh men are the
07:18:14.860
primary victims of war you disagreed with this i'm not saying that so the question is saying that men are
07:18:23.580
the primary victims of war i'm saying that there's children there's families i feel like everyone is
07:18:28.700
equally affected by war does anybody uh i will open this up to anybody else um does anybody think that men
07:18:34.700
are not the primary victims of war okay um so you there are other victims right of war certainly women
07:18:43.660
children etc but the question is uh primary victims uh so explain to me uh men are not the primary
07:18:53.100
victims then why do you say that it's never just oh men are fighting um of one nation fighting other
07:19:01.660
men of the other nation and they're the only ones getting hurt you know there's other there's entire
07:19:07.020
civilizations there's women there's children there's future families so on that basis no men are not the
07:19:13.020
primary victims okay let me ask you this um when the united states sent men to world war ii uh were
07:19:20.940
men or women in specifically with the united states specifically with world war ii let's do world war
07:19:26.220
one also uh when it came to the united states demographic were men the primary victims of war
07:19:32.940
in the united states yes in japan no because women and children got bombed men also got bombed yes
07:19:41.820
and so that'll make them all the victims so if i grant and i actually i do grant that in military
07:19:49.820
conflicts there are civilian casualties and this is going to encompass both this is going to encompass
07:19:55.580
women and children in fact it may very well be the case that perhaps more women and children are
07:20:00.860
civilian casualties i'm not sure if that's actually true but i mean just granting it um this would be the
07:20:07.580
case because the men are elsewhere in the war and these men are typically dying
07:20:18.060
sorry can you ask that question well here how about this let's say there's a war
07:20:21.740
and this war 10 million men die and then there's like 5 million civilian casualties and when it comes
07:20:28.460
to civilian casualties well between the children it's 50 50 because the children don't fight right so
07:20:33.820
it's 50 50 between uh male and female children when it comes to the women however what if i just say
07:20:39.100
okay well it's like 70 percent uh female civilian casualties and 30 percent male civilian casualties
07:20:47.820
um can i change my answer a little bit sure i'm gonna say anyone that is in front line of the war so yes men
07:20:56.220
and anyone who gets injured or dies due to war are the primary victims and um secondary would be their
07:21:03.500
wives and their family and their children so those would be the secondary okay so i changed my answer yes
07:21:09.660
men are the primary victims but also anyone who is on the front line and anyone who gets injured or dies
07:21:15.020
are also primary yeah but the question kind of suggests like a collective uh a collective degree of
07:21:22.860
victimization right so i would agree with you like for example uh a civilian who gets bombed
07:21:29.900
and the civilian happens to be a woman is a primary victim of the war but if we're like comparing the
07:21:38.060
i guess suffering toll or the victim toll um do you think that this is men or women when it comes to warfare
07:21:45.020
well i guess yes if you like i said i changed my answer but since we're putting on technical terms
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more men are fighting in wars okay you know and so um more men men are the primary victims and then come
07:22:00.700
whoever's affected by that okay so you're changing your position on that then yes okay so men are the
07:22:06.860
primary victims of war anyone who's on the front line which is primarily men primarily men yes in
07:22:14.300
this scenario in all in all scenarios well what if women got i mean what if women are drafted more and
07:22:20.220
suddenly the like it changed are they though no so so in this scenario yes how about all wars that
07:22:26.940
have occurred throughout human history well all wars that have occurred throughout human history have been
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primarily like fought by men yes fought by men and dictated by men so yes they are the primary okay
07:22:38.780
all right um trying to see if there's i want to bring things back to dating related topics for a bit
07:22:44.620
here uh let's see uh where should we go hmm one sec guys why don't we um
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before we do that actually can you go to twitch really quick damien guys go to twitch.tv slash
07:23:06.380
whatever drop us a follow on the prime sub if you have one that's twitch.tv
07:23:09.980
slash whatever drop us a follow on the prime sub if you have one also can you pull up our discord
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guys go to discord.gg slash whatever if you want to join the whatever world of warcraft guild
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back to the pre-show notes actually on here uh gianna you said you don't date around you prefer
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to have very few relationships but the one you didn't let the one time you did let a man take
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you out other than your boyfriend he became your stalker and you had to get a restraining order
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but that's an even longer story lmao yeah that is true okay you want me to dive right in well you
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said you don't date around you prefer to have like very few relationships um so the one time you let
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a man like take you out on a date he became a stalker yes he did so he's right very good times
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um he followed me i guess oh he dropped me off home and then um i actually had him drop me off a few
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houses down because you know i didn't really know him that well and i am very like to myself so cautious
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i guess um and then i waited until he left to go to my house and apparently he didn't go too far
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because he saw where i went and then a couple weeks later started sparing my phone neighbors showed me
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um videos of him staying at my house because we i lived in an apartment um not too long ago
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and stuff like that so yeah i am very very very cautious with who i go out with and who i okay
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sure uh moving to avantica you said what what was the movie story oh um have you heard of the movie
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evil dead rising um so i um a guy from like uh like school asked me like was a couple years ago to go to
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the movie screening well i chose it because i i love horror movies and um we were at the movie
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theater and um we were the only two people there i don't know how it happened and the whole theater
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and then he got like really like scared he started crying and it was it was kind of funny
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uh and you also said that he said he loved oh no he loved movies i thought he said he loved you
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uh and that but he uh he started crying like when you say crying like just a singular tear or like
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full-blown like crying i think if you've ever seen the movie it's like ridiculously gory
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and so like i feel like i was pretty shocked did you suggest the movie or did he i did but um i kind
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of just dived in i don't really see the trailers for the movies so i just dived in so he started
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crying yeah and he was scared did he like reach for your hand like kind of yeah yeah okay and um
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he tried to make a move on you after yeah like it was so weird because after i don't know after
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like he left a little bit like i think 10 or 20 minutes earlier and then i left i thought he left
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like left left and then i saw him there at the end and then he was like you're like do you want to take
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this like somewhere else and i was like no because he was it because he cried or um no i just i guess
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like i had the implication was sexual and i just wasn't feeling it i'm gonna watch a horror movie
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oh okay all right um you sure it wasn't because he cried i've i've cried at movies i cried a like
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sad dog documentary like i cry anything basically so i wasn't really bad all right you said uh maybe
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this is a different guy his family was part of a cult and you found out three months in
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yeah what was the cult it was scientology oh okay nice and i'm like i guess i try to put it for a
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juicy story but a lot of people are part of that cult so it's not really too juicy okay you said you
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went on a date in oregon he drove 50 miles to the middle of nowhere and there was a zoo um yeah like
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we're like my family was in oregon and then um i was i kind of like snuck out and um i met him and
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he's like let's just go to a place i was like i don't know i was young dumb i was like 19 and so
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like we went to the middle of nowhere and his family had a farm but like not regular friends
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there's like giraffes and zebras and like wild like like other animals and like a petting zoo or
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something it wasn't even like i don't know any petting zoo that has like a giraffe a safari it was
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like a private zoo it was yeah it was almost like a private zoo but it was like in the middle of
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like a random state nice did you end up dating him or no because i don't live in oregon so i don't
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really do long distance you drove with him 50 miles to the zoo i mean i'm guesstimating it was like it
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was like 30 40 minutes it was you and him it was just me okay all right um just curious would you rather
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watch a evil dead rising with a bear or with a man who cries um if you're talking specifically
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that's a good question actually i don't know if the bear would have i feel like is a man who cries
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like really a threat yeah exactly man who cried like with that specific guy no like he's not okay
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um all right uh going to ellen ellen you said uh you wanted to talk about pre-relationship quotas what
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does that mean oh just like certain things that you should do before you and are like in a
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relationship like what um just kind of like personality aspects i guess like what um they
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have to be like a gentleman they have to be gentlemen okay you have to be kind and considerate
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what are some like gentlemanly things that a guy can do or should do um i think it's really nice
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if like they open like the car door for you if you're gonna go on like a date open the car door
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why yeah or um i don't know i just feel like it's like a nice gesture or like they like but you're not
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are you not capable of opening a car door like you don't possess the strength to do it or no i have
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the strength don't you think it's a bit sexist that a man would assume like you can't do it yourself
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i mean i guess another thing that i think is just like a kind gesture is like if they like walk you
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to your door um because you know it's probably like that's an interesting one's the like why
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i just feel like it's like a considerate act in case somebody jumps out of the bush and attacks you
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um i don't know i just that's what i've been told but you would you would want this on the first date
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right i think i i don't expect it but it would be nice you would like it though i would like it okay
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if a guy didn't do it would it you call into question no i just think you would like nice
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gestures yeah but what's the entailment there so like you want the guy to walk you to the door
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make sure you get home safe uh what would the expectation be for example if there was somebody who
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jumped out of the bush and he did walk you to the door would you want him to physically intervene
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on your behalf and protect you um i mean i would just kind of grab him and like run away or like
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try to get into the house as fast as possible i'm allowing him to deal with the violent threat
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no no i'm no i'm with him like i want us to both get to safety but you would want him to attempt like
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what let's say you couldn't would you want him to physically confront the attacker or just let him
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beat you guys up no like i would fight back too i wouldn't just expect him to fight if he let me ask
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you this the guy walks you to the door some crazy violent person jumps out of the bush starts trying
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to attack you um he runs faster than you and he just runs away leaving you to be attacked would you feel
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uh like whoa i can't date this guy that's just not what a good human being would do they would
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you know but earlier you said like you would try to run into the house and he would stay to defend
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no i would run in with him into the house to get us both to safety that's the priority okay
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that we're both so if he ran away and like just that's a horrible thing to do if somebody's in danger
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you should help them even at the cost of his life i mean i feel like if somebody was you know
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getting beat up i would go yeah let me ask you a question have you ever uh you go out and party out
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here yeah sometimes have you ever seen fights between two men no you've never seen enough do you
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go out to the parties at all i do i've never seen you've never seen a physical altercation between two
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men not on the night set how often have you gone out to party and stuff like decent number you walk
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the main street you know the street i'm talking about yeah you've never seen a physical altercation
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or fight maybe i'm just not there at those times but uh in general have you ever seen a physical
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altercation between two men no actually i mean you are young you are 18 but um or no you're i'm 18.
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oh no you are 18 sorry i got my numbers mixed up um i mean perhaps one day you'll see one so you
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think uh you see two men fighting you're going to intervene i mean but like why are they fighting
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just like i don't know maybe one guy's beating up on the other i don't know who knows why would i
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intervene you said a good person would intervene if somebody's in danger yeah being in the street
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fight's dangerous i mean you gave me a scenario earlier and i responded to that like if somebody
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walked me to the door and somebody jumped out at us but you said you would like engage in the fight
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but have you ever been in the fight no i haven't been in a fight but i'm just saying like if somebody
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was attacking me and somebody that i was with obviously i would fight back or i would run away
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with the person that i was with i mean i think the scenario would play out something like this
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you probably wouldn't start fighting this man who started attacking you you would look to the man who's
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with you to defend you i would look to run away first if i can i mean i don't so you would run away
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but the man would stay and fight why wouldn't the man just run away with me fights are like
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like there would not be time to like have a sidebar conversation with your date no like what
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should we do somebody's coming to attack the punch the man has to like then you dodge it and then you
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run away what you hope to dodge it i mean i'm and the guy starts keeps chasing you then we keep i don't
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and he's faster and he catches up are you gonna start throwing punches or is the guy gonna have to turn
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around and start fucking the guy up i hope he does i don't i don't oh boy all right um
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okay i mean things are i mean i would leave the guy and run away myself
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she's honest i guess um the the reason i i'm going here is because you say you want the guy to walk you
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to the door so basically you're saying you want a guy who's willing to protect you but that protection
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is is one directional i'm not saying i'm i want him to walk me to lord i think the gesture is nice
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i don't that's the kind of underlying go ahead go ahead i think the gesture and like it's about like
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the kindness behind it not necessarily like i don't know how often these physical altercations okay what
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are some of the other gentlemanly things you want a guy to do like more like just personality traits
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okay um what kind of like so where is the reciprocation from the woman's part like what
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do i do so you're saying men should adhere to these traditional gender roles should women adhere to
07:35:33.180
traditional gender i never said they should adhere to i said that it would be a nice gesture you would
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be but okay i mean there's more than one way to say something but that doesn't mean that i expect it
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that's the traditional gender role if you expect a woman to do a nice gesture for the woman um
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maybe i would make him like cookies i don't know that's active
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okay but like i i guess my confusion here is that like if you had two men and they were like both
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pretty similar but one of them did these like romantic or gentlemanly gestures it would occur to me that
07:36:12.540
you would like if you had to if you ended up picking one you would pick the one that demonstrated these
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like romantic or uh gentlemanly gestures um i'm sorry i'm like not really running on much sleep so
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i but i think tiffany can answer that okay tiffany you want to answer on behalf of your friend over there
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well look the reason i'm kind of like uh exploring it a little bit here is you had like a really
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massive objection to the bow thing which seems pretty benign but like you want a guy to like
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okay look at if you actually like explore the physical requirements okay the guy needs to get
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out of the guy picks you up in his car you want him or you would prefer or you would like it or you
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would get extra brownie points however you want to frame it you want him to get out of his car walk
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all the way around open the car door m'lady walk back around get back in the car like it's gentlemanly
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right so you have that expectation on men to take that physical action right but you're saying that
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it's an expectation but i've never said that it was an expectation do you have no expectations for men
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i doubt that no but you're saying that these are the expectations that i hold but these are not
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expectations i clearly said that they're gestures they're kind gestures they're kind gestures so you
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don't expect kind gestures what are some expectations you do have i just expect them to be good human
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beings and that's that's really it like i'm just looking for a good person i don't really so okay so
07:37:56.540
the guy gets extra brownie points yeah he does these it's kind it's gestures all right so if men
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were to say well women who do these things earn them extra bounty points and they're more likely to
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be picked over a woman who doesn't i mean isn't this kind of dancing around what an expectation is
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like i know you don't like the framing of what expectation entails but if it's like okay if as a man
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you do xyz you have a greater chance of getting me as a girlfriend as a sexual partner whatever it is
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you have a better chance of getting me isn't this essentially de facto an expectation
07:38:39.340
expectations are requirements i never stated that these things are requirements
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right but if if a pattern of behavior means that this individual is more likely to pick me as
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opposed to the other men that she's entertaining then like i mean isn't it like maybe it's not an
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expectation but there's a significant social pressure on men to do these behaviors that's enforced by
07:39:04.060
women it's not enforced by women per se it's a kind gesture just like i would look for
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like humor in a guy i think that would bring him brownie points okay if he was humorous like what's the
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difference between like different i guess like brownie points yeah i suppose but plenty of women
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perhaps might not want to date like a more serious individual who doesn't have the capacity to make
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them laugh or isn't funny is that a statement yeah okay all right um look it's just interesting to me you
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guys want we went around the table i asked kind of what do you bring to the table what do you expect
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from men or what do you want in a man and you listed all these things but like you guys really object to
07:39:53.020
certain things like i don't know it's just like men should pay for first dates most of you maybe you you
07:39:59.740
on a personal level don't um you don't want that you're like fine 50 50 i'm cool with 50 50 but like i'm
07:40:07.580
sure you could at least acknowledge like there's a there's a subset a large subset of women who have
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this expectation of men that men pay for first dates if they don't there's not going to be a
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second date they're just going to be like almost mocked if they don't pay for the date um it's just
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really interesting to me though like when we say men should do this men should do xyz men should do
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whatever men should do that's not really met with much objection from y'all but the moment men start
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saying women should do this you start getting really in your feels and in your emotions and in
07:40:41.100
your feminism and being like well hold on no women shouldn't have to do any of these things
07:40:50.620
if a man said a woman should have my babies i would happily have his baby yeah if it's something i
07:40:55.980
want to do it the guy the guy wants to provide it's in their it's in their biology
07:41:02.620
biology and do nice gestures for women so men want to provide it's in their biology is it in
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women's biology to follow men and be submissive to men no but yes but that does not include bowing
07:41:24.940
so what does that have to do with anything what brian just said brian just said that like
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would you be submissive to your men but you wouldn't right like you wouldn't bow to them
07:41:34.940
but you would expect for them to pay for the first date so what do you give your man in return what do
07:41:40.460
you provide for your boyfriend in return have his babies be a mother to his children well that's in
07:41:47.580
the future what would you provide for him now my presence being me it's the potential though it's a
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women's an investment right what but why why is it okay to say that this is in men's nature
07:42:07.420
i don't disagree with you tiffany i do think it's in men's nature but um why is it then wrong to say
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certain things are in women's nature it seems like it's only sexist or you know in one direction
07:42:22.460
like it's only sexist if there's like expectations on women there should be expectations i think
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women should do kind gestures as well like what that's what i asked you what do you think women
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should do bow do my laundry on do do my laundry on the first day except bowing
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here's okay going to the bow thing really quick uh just show of hands who would who would uh your
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your uh i don't know i don't know first date for some of you might be weird man chill chill out bro
07:42:55.500
like you're making me seem like a psychopath you're you're a psycho bro you're tiffany bro you got
07:42:59.500
kanye tattoos show that's psycho you're psycho bro psychopath over here freaking psycho okay um
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who here objects to a man a man saying a woman should do his laundry on the first date object object
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object any objections object you would do it laundry on the first date yeah okay would you do a guy's
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laundry on the first date i don't think so you don't think so would you do laundry on the first
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date claire why am i going to this man's place you've never exactly you've never been to a guy's
07:43:33.980
house not on the first date no you've never had a one-night stand no that's good i've never had a
07:43:40.460
one okay fine whatever that's fine all right pots i've done it you've done laundry on the first day
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lexi i also wouldn't be at their house come on like you've never been over to a guy like you just
07:43:56.060
met fucking went over to his house no okay all right cena i mean into the mic i wouldn't do it but
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i wouldn't mind mind doing laundry okay yeah all right what about you i wouldn't do it on the first
07:44:12.140
day i would do it in the relationship not on the first day sure uh question kind of following up
07:44:17.100
on this um who here has within the like same 24 hours as meeting them who here has had a uh carnal
07:44:28.220
knowledge uh with a guy pause starting with you i guess wait what uh so within the first 24 hours of
07:44:39.020
meeting a guy have you had carnal knowledge with a dude sex oh p and the v sexual sexual intercourse
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yes okay and no really no no bro you gotta live
07:45:01.100
no no no yes wait you i know i know you said that you said you had like casual encounters is
07:45:09.340
she it's casual account it's not like that it's more like pause is she being on his bruv it's like
07:45:14.460
we've has she smashed we've been friends yo pause has she smashed bruv do you like
07:45:20.380
do you want to describe san diego damn bro you gonna lie on my podcast what the
07:45:25.180
fuck bro i knew him like before that like i met him before that like you said first 24 hours with
07:45:30.540
the knowing oh right right okay yeah i'm using the technical oh okay joshua tree i met him before that
07:45:40.060
too like the day before yeah was that like within the 24 hours i thought it was just like
07:45:45.900
no if you met at 5 p.m did y'all smash before 5 p.m the next day no okay so like how about 48 hours
07:45:56.060
does that change anything i guess yes yeah okay all right what about you alissa yes okay it's tiffany no
07:46:09.260
you won't bow for a lot of women won't bow for a guy
07:46:17.340
but you'll do all kinds of sexual acts but it's like okay the same girl who won't bow for a guy
07:46:24.620
or do his laundry on the first date like you'll
07:46:28.460
hock to her you'll spit on that thing you'll gluck like like that you'll you'll you'll have sex bro
07:46:36.540
you'll have you'll let him blast on your face bro you'll do kind of crazy you'll peg a dude bro
07:46:40.060
you pegged a dude you pegged a dude on the first date bro is it true did you peg it you pegged a guy
07:46:45.340
right yes it was a first date right uh no oh sorry my bad second date something like that oh man
07:46:53.260
see it's great you won't bow you won't bow you won't do his laundry you won't cook him a meal you
07:46:58.220
won't is that a nice gesture cooking meal no pegging right no that's very rude it's a very rude gesture
07:47:05.820
even if you want to don't do it yeah uh go ahead tiffany go ahead i was just gonna say all that for
07:47:13.740
just paying for a day is kind of ridiculous no i'm not expecting a girl to do your laundry when
07:47:19.340
you're only paying for one date i do i do your laundry if you provide me with a house and a car
07:47:27.980
the fuck that's not fair bro that is fair i could get like one of these services to do my laundry for
07:47:33.020
like i don't know 30 bucks or something then do that
07:47:39.260
well then you guys use a sperm bank okay and get sperm donor how about that okay that doesn't
07:47:48.620
seem very fun roasted not really i'd be down for that you'd be down for a sperm bank yeah before i
07:47:55.180
was in my relationship i was thinking about going to a sperm bank and having a donor uh really at
07:48:01.500
fucking 20 i want kids before i'm 25 so okay all right that's cool um what were you saying tiffany
07:48:10.220
you want you got a how you to do the man's laundry you need a house and a car yeah and a ring
07:48:16.860
yeah and a ring wife status damn that's crazy man that's crazy all right um we're gonna guys
07:48:22.620
we're gonna lower the tts to we're gonna do a rose session we're gonna lower the tts to 20
07:48:28.940
then we're gonna do the rose session then we're gonna wrap up any while i'm getting that set up
07:48:32.860
any uh final thoughts from and any of the uh panelists here
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speak now forever hold your peace go ahead tiffany like go crazy or don't go crazy
07:48:47.260
damn bro y'all see these tick tocks where the girl's like oh i'm on a date with a guy and it's
07:48:52.860
like he doesn't really talk is that really dudes who are like that or is that y'all just throwing that
07:48:58.940
out there like is it is it really guys that aren't carrying conversation like there's there's there's
07:49:06.300
nine of y'all there's one of me hello we carry productive conversations guys carry unproductive
07:49:13.980
conversations that's the biggest baloney i've ever heard major baloney baloney sandwich
07:49:21.820
you know how i know this typically this is actually a studied thing uh women talk about
07:49:31.180
other people and men will talk about like ideas and concepts and things
07:49:39.100
when they're when they're together like when women are together they typically talk about
07:49:42.540
other people when men are together they talk about things and ideas
07:49:47.820
a full group of men i have been friends with in the past when they get together they play belly
07:49:55.500
bongos they don't talk about you hang out with a bunch of soy boys so there's no surprise there
07:50:02.700
20 tts boys 20 tts read them and weep uh get them in boys i need to change a couple things on my
07:50:10.780
cena what you got for me bro go ahead talk about canadian dating or some
07:50:14.140
shit canadian bacon bacon bacon yeah go ahead canadian bacon's pretty good yeah yeah uh wait
07:50:22.780
okay uh going around the table do you guys think that body count do you think men are insecure if
07:50:29.340
they care about the woman's body count no what about you um no okay lexi no i think sometimes sometimes
07:50:41.420
okay depends okay depends okay i know i wrote something different um i would just say it's
07:50:50.220
based on your values if you want a low body count seek someone who has a low body count if you have
07:50:53.740
a high one then don't also don't expect someone else to have a low body count and be offended if they
07:50:59.900
have a high body kind of you yourself have a high body count wait can you clarify your position on that
07:51:05.100
if you have a high body count you can't be like oh a girl has to have a low body count that's
07:51:09.740
ridiculous then you should have a low one so you're saying like a person with a high body count
07:51:14.380
just hold they're only allowed yourself no i'm saying you shouldn't care hold yourself to the
07:51:20.060
same standards you're holding everyone else to really yeah so do you believe in perfect symmetry
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between desires between men and women that is a weird question what do you well okay here i'll
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reframe it in order for you to desire a trait in a partner need you also possess said trait to desire
07:51:40.940
it i don't hold any expectation of someone i date unless i hold myself to that yes really yes
07:51:49.900
um and question what's your orientation like are you straight bisexual okay um
07:51:54.700
perhaps this could be the case for you where there's perfect reciprocity and perfect symmetry
07:52:02.140
when it comes to your own characteristics and then what you desire in a partner i think this is
07:52:07.660
probably dubious but um even granting this do you think that this is the case for most women
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is it the case for most women what do you think it's the case for most women that the things they
07:52:20.700
desire in men they also possess all those same traits i think not just women but i think in general
07:52:29.660
it's not the case no so you think attraction in terms of what we're both attracted to is perfectly
07:52:35.180
symmetrical whatever women want in men men also want exactly that in women like i said in a general
07:52:43.500
case with everyone no i don't think that's the case in my case yes that's the case there's a bit of
07:52:48.540
a delay on the tts guys well because i guess my confusion here is that i don't think that there's
07:52:54.540
symmetry in what men and women want and also i don't think it's either hypocritical to desire a trait
07:53:02.060
in a partner that you yourself don't possess for example uh just curious show of hands uh do you guys like
07:53:09.980
men who are funny and i i everybody right are you guys funny i think i'm funny yeah i don't think
07:53:21.340
i'm funny but i make people laugh anyways right but like i i guess what i'm trying to get at here
07:53:28.140
i would not fault a woman who was not like who didn't have like the comedic timing or who wasn't
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funny i wouldn't fault her if she wasn't funny at all for finding somebody who is funny attractive
07:53:41.500
because that is an attractive characteristic to possess at least for a man um i don't think
07:53:47.020
it would make her a hypocrite i don't think it would make her wrong despite her total lack of humor
07:53:54.140
perhaps she has a sense of humor that's a bit different though she can detect she can sense the
07:53:58.380
humor but she can't actually like make people laugh like she's not funny herself i don't think
07:54:04.780
it's hypocritical and i i feel like most of you would agree it wouldn't be wrong for a woman who's
07:54:11.020
not funny to find funny men attractive i think fair proposition strict borderline i think that when
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you're in a relationship i feel like you should think your partner is funny like really yeah
07:54:24.700
yeah because you understand them and you more so you should naturally if you like someone i think
07:54:32.300
humor and sharing that sense of humor comes in a big play in that so i feel like whether it's you're
07:54:38.780
funny yourself or you understand the humor and you can joke about it together sharing that is a mutual
07:54:45.580
thing if you're someone who is funny and you're a joke student you're constantly making jokes and then
07:54:50.780
your girlfriend never laughs at anything you say because they don't understand it even yeah no i
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don't know okay um but you do you think everybody is equally funny then no that's why it's base by base
07:55:06.220
so then certainly there would be like for example a girl who partners up with a guy who's just like
07:55:11.900
objectively funnier than her like i said for other people i don't think it's the case for me i would
07:55:18.460
want my partner to think i'm funny and i want to have a funny yo you gotta but you gotta like
07:55:24.220
remove like you gotta look big picture here this is about our opinions though so what's a bad opinion
07:55:30.780
our opinions about various things and again right but like i'm asking based off your experience we're
07:55:36.220
having a conversation about generalities like i could just if if you're having a conversation with
07:55:41.340
somebody and you can always point to like some exception to the rule it's not really productive
07:55:46.060
okay and i've said this is my personal opinion i've also stated generally do i think it's like
07:55:52.700
that no i've said that multiple times right but so with the body count thing you're saying well like
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as a guy if you have a high body count but you desire women with low body count that's like
07:56:01.180
hypocritical or not acceptable it's not about desire it's about requirement if you require a female
07:56:08.300
yeah what's wrong with that then why didn't you have a low body count i i don't see how it's even
07:56:15.020
hypocritical i think it is okay i mean so just to be clear so everything when it comes to what you
07:56:23.660
desire in a partner you too must possess it otherwise i'm specifically talking currently
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about body okay so all women who want men to pay for dates are hypocrites because they wouldn't do it
07:56:33.500
themselves i do it myself that's cool but we're talking about women who their standard is they want
07:56:39.900
men to pay for first dates are they hypocrites because they don't want to pay for the first date
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or is this an asymmet asymmetrical expectation that cannot be reciprocated due to the asymmetry of the
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standard if a woman wants to follow in line with let's let's even go as far as to say traditional
07:57:00.460
male female gender roles um and a woman requires a man to perform those gender roles let's say paying for
07:57:08.140
the date is one of them and it is a genuine requirement not a preference anything like
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that is a requirement then the woman should have no problem too with also being in that gender role
07:57:20.940
too wait so the woman with the traditional gender role should not of men paying for first dates
07:57:27.740
she should also be in the male traditional gender role no women who require men to perform their
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traditional gender role should be with men who want the woman to be in their traditional gender
07:57:37.900
role too that's how it is but that's asymmetrical no that's equal not they want the men to be in
07:57:45.740
their traditional gender role so they should have a man that wants a woman in their traditional gender
07:57:49.340
role that's that is the same that's exactly the same right but there wouldn't be like a it's not
07:57:54.940
the same thing there's a difference no there's not i just stated the same exact thing but said man what
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yeah but the traditional gender roles themselves are different you have to concede that okay but
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we're talking about the generality of it are we not that's what you just said i mean i suppose i see
07:58:12.140
what you're doing we're talking about generality if you're saying a man who desires a traditional woman
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uh the she would be desiring a traditional man that's still asymmetry should
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right but then the actual entailment of those traditional gender roles are still different
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and asymmetrical we're talking about generality
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you brought up generality non-specific so if we're talking about generality that is the case look i'll
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just look when it comes to this when it comes to the body count thing and you saying well it's wrong
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for a guy with high body count to want to desire or perhaps to even exclusively date women with a low
07:58:57.100
body count or who's a virgin i don't think it's hypocritical i don't think it's wrong just because
07:59:02.060
this is just the nature of dating men and women don't have like perfectly symmetrical expectations
07:59:08.140
and desires and partners for example like women typically don't approach men they want the man to
07:59:14.460
make the first move it would not be hypocritical for the woman to be like oh i don't want to make the
07:59:19.260
first move but they expect the man to make like to make the first move does that make sense
07:59:26.940
then they should date a man who likes to make the first move that's the same exact guy who has a high
07:59:32.460
body count can go ahead and date a low body count woman i'm not saying they can't i'm saying to make
07:59:36.940
it a requirement to specifically seek that out is weird what why because it shouldn't matter it clearly
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didn't matter to the guy when he was racking up the body counts so it shouldn't matter to him that
07:59:48.780
a female has them as well well he's made a determination he we all want to get the best
07:59:53.660
that we can get in the partner and he's come to the conclusion after his his extensive experience that
07:59:58.700
women who uh who are don't display sexual promiscuity actually tend to make for better partners and for
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this reason he's making just like a logical determination that despite my past conduct i determine that women who have
08:00:13.340
a low body count or who are virgins are going to make for a better long-term partner ergo i'm going
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to pick the best option that i can get that in and of itself is rude and hypocrisy as well how is that
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hypocritical if we're going by the line that oh well if you have lower let's make that assumption if you
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have lower that means you're going to be a better partner or long-term partner and you have to
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experience things and try out your options whatever you worded it then females should be doing the same
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thing and they can't paint it as a bad thing then that no i'm not i'm not advocating for male
08:00:49.580
promiscuity i'm saying he happens to have a high body count okay and and this isn't central this isn't
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core to the argument but because of actually his experience he has he has actually come to a
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determination that actually when it comes to like long-term relationships women who uh have low
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body counts make for better romantic partners then i would say that in that case men with lower
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body counts make for better partners and that woman should not date him
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i mean that's up to her determination but it occurs to me that there's also an asymmetry
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insofar as men have a much greater issue when it comes to female promiscuity than the reverse
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i would not agree with that but i'm not going to talk on that you would you disagree with that i
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disagree but i'm not going to talk on that firm decision oh why just curious firm decision is it
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triggering for you no talk about body count firm decision i talked about body counts i'm talking
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about promiscuity and stuff like that no i don't really care about that okay uh well going around the
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table those of you i lie you said body count whatever shouldn't matter not a big deal um
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going around the table what's your body count starting with pos go ahead oh i feel like most
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people already know this though uh but there's new viewers there's new people at the table go ahead
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range between like 50 whatever 50 to 60 yeah okay um since your last appearance how's the
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how many bodies um i've been up two two bodies since last time okay i'm just and you're um 21
08:02:25.660
right yeah 21 like have you like thought about like just i'm just curious the math or whatever
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like um like by the time you're 30 like what what do you think though like is it gonna be like
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100 plus you think by 30 no i think right now i'm just like slowing down a little bit more picky
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yeah okay but before i was more like i did not want to like not be with multiple guys at once
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um to like the point where like once i threw a party and i had like every guy i was talking to
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show up and everyone i had everyone like wear the same color so i knew who they were
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go to each one of them be like ah wait you did this yeah wait you invited all the guys you hooked up
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with yeah just all at once i can just like get it over wait you did this meet everyone yeah i had
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everyone who wore the same color so i knew who they were pink wait you actually did this did you
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say this on the last show i don't think so i don't know how many men showed up um i only invited seven
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wait so seven dude was there an orgy afterwards or no so you invited seven dudes who were all had
08:03:36.860
carnal knowledge of you and they all wore pink and then they just like had a bro sesh and
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kicked it yeah i don't think anyone like actually knew about it because i always throw like themed
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parties so it wasn't odd for me to like tell people like dress code or whatnot so but you only told the
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dudes that you hooked up with to wear pink yeah everyone else could wear something else yeah like
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a different theme to like um the party i had and did they know no i mean they probably know now if you're
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saying that's wild that's crazy pause what the hell all right i'm gonna let the roasts come in
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um and then we're gonna hopefully wrap up here um there's quite a few so um yeah we'll get to it
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thank you vector vector donated twenty dollars brian i think chair five is sitting in the same chair as
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the woman that said she could beat up brock lesnar dot the chair is pretty woke best take a blow torch to
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it i am offended by that chair uh yeah blow torch good vector donated twenty dollars the environment
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is worth protecting more than having children what a selfless generation so selfless that the earth will
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have the greatest contribution ever made by humans going extinct aaron tb donated twenty dollars thank you
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vector guys talk about building futures girls talk about spending resources
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hmm yo aaron thank you man appreciate it the underscore td underscore project donated twenty
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dollars if chloe's lying skills were measured on a scale it would read to be continued her delusion
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is next level wow fyi the u.s women's soccer team got thrashed by a bunch of under 15 boys yeah
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it's uh that's bad libertariat donated twenty dollars thank you man appreciate it one need
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guild i like video games okay w i'll get you set up we'll play world of warcraft with you snap
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behind your escape goats such as this isn't dating and but from my experience your anecdotal scenarios
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can't lift your crushed ego daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars thank you man
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holy shit brian can you believe chair number four's mother reproduced eleven retards like
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her it's amazing most of these girls love to argue about things they know nothing about camilla's daughter
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in chair seven big guarantee be donated twenty dollars girl with glasses if you're broke then
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you shouldn't demand a man to pay for anything for you or criticize him for being broke yeah i mean
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really quick just on that like when it comes to the double standards or hypocrisy like for example
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plenty of women who have no status want to date high status men like plenty of women who are nobodies
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would jump at the chance of dating an a-list celebrity a professional athlete a famous
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musician i bet you all have a celebrity crush it wouldn't be like i don't think there's a asymmetry
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it doesn't mean you're a hypocrite if like you as a woman who's a nobody wants to date a really hot
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attractive male celebrity that doesn't make you a hypocrite it's fine to want it you shouldn't expect that
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as a requirement that's all i've said you can want anything you want even i don't even think
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even if you expect it i don't think it makes you a hypocrite whether you can get it or not is a
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different thing whether you can get it or not is a different thing but uh i mean look it's like
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how many like i would a woman who makes forty thousand dollars a year if she followed your
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worldview is she supposed to turn down a billionaire otherwise she's a hypocrite heaven forbid she'd be
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a hypocrite i said that they can want it they can pass on a billionaire you're gonna pass on that
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you're gonna pass on are you a billionaire i just would you date a billionaire i just stated would you
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date a billionaire i just stated answer the question i'm not answering the question like
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would you date a billionaire and i'm trying to answer okay go ahead i stated again many many many
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many times at this point clearly you're not properly listening um i have stated that i
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you've stated many times yes i expect someone to have the same things as me i do not require
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yeah i don't even think i claimed require though okay but you your position was to even desire or want
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no i specifically said you can desire and want all you want you cannot expect it as a requirement
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that is explicitly what i've said this entire time i don't even see it so you're saying a guy who
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refuses to date women with high body counts but he has a high body count himself and he's like here's
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my standard i only want to date low body count women or virgins that's hypocritical it's not
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hypocritical it is i disagree look up hypocrisy please would it be hypocritical for a woman who does
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not have a penis to only want to date people with penises that's she doesn't have a penis she these
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all you women here who are straight you hypocrites you'll only i mean maybe some of you are bi or
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whatever i don't fucking you hypocrites you women and your attraction to male genitalia it is
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disgusting i am disgusted by all of you right now how dare you desire a male with a penis if you don't
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possess a penis yourself i'll allow if you have a big clit you get the pass though
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i'll allow and big labia big labia if you have a large labia i only date women with large labia
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um you also i guess you are also not a hypocrite if you desire a man with a penis but if you have a
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small labia and any as they're called not an audi and any or you have a small clit you cannot desire
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man with a penis you can date a man with a micro penis i'll allow i'll allow it anybody here into
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micro penises good talk that was good thanks guys marlin gonzalez donated twenty dollars fifth girl in
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center him still lost why would you go to a sketch doctor when your friend was wrongfully shot by a cop
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and didn't take them to court and go to a real doctor we were kids
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jack underscore m donated twenty dollars chair number five you lost the battle and you're sore about
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it number seven i will make sure you never are in or i'm in brian i know you want a gf to do the chores
08:10:34.220
but take this trash out realize a network donated twenty dollars how can these girls even take
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themselves seriously when none of them know the difference between woman and women what does
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plural mean higher body counts than iq met griffin in chair five bs stories oh wait we were doing body
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count right pause your body count is what 60 something like something like 60 okay uh going around the
08:11:05.020
table body count can we do a range yeah sure okay mine's in between zero and five okay so four
08:11:14.780
around there or five okay all right cena three okay lexi i have you have to you have to
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i'll get uh yeah you have to okay two okay cool chloe simply those i've dated
08:11:33.900
huh simply those i've dated huh so if you were to add those up in a calculator not answering if you
08:11:40.700
were to add those up in the calculator plus not answering is it over a hundred no it's under five
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it's over nine thousand under five yeah that's fair i'll accept that ellen hold on ellen you got
08:11:55.020
to do us a solid here okay you've been you've been uh omitting all night you got to come in on the
08:12:00.460
body count question but this is a private question ellen bro this is definitely a ellen i've been i've been
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i've been so generous all night and i appreciate your generosity ellen just it was it like one
08:12:12.060
two come on it's very very i just think it's like it's very low that's it boys it's it's like three
08:12:19.900
or less i just think it's private information that shouldn't be publicized i think it's public
08:12:25.980
information that should be publicized in various newspapers i have connections with the new york times
08:12:35.260
the atlantic washington post i will publish it in print if you'd like me to i would not like it i
08:12:43.260
would not like to disclose i'm just kidding it's just on the whatever i don't have any connections
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with any of these journals scientific america can i publish it there sorry
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range will you do a range do me a solid ellen hook be a homie are you my homie
08:13:02.620
are we homies um i think you're really kind wait really you're not she's just saying i think
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you're a kind person for being so generous for letting me um you know like skip over questions
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if i don't feel really fuck the fuck this guy ellen range do me a solid ellen do me a solid range
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zero to five beautiful okay what about you i don't want to answer two reasons two reasons
08:13:34.380
one because my family might watch me and they're like kind of religious two i think i um have chose
08:13:41.420
to answer most of the questions so i i just want a fair pass on this one all right how about range
08:13:46.060
will you do range no because i answered like 90 of the questions what's up what is it i honestly don't
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know i stopped i'm 26 i stopped counting you're 26 i'm go yeah oh okay uh more than do you want to
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do range like 30 to 40 yeah is that fair 34 50 50 maybe like 100 100 plus no it's like 100 it's okay
08:14:09.500
it's cool here i'm gonna write it down a hundred plus it's it's official no no i mean there's only
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like two i'm a lefty by the way so it's a it's also more official because i'm left-handed uh tiffany
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zero all right cool tiffany rock and roll i'm proud of you i guess wait you have a boyfriend
08:14:25.980
though you guys they are waiting for marriage ah yeah i'm christian uh she's a christian and she
08:14:33.260
also is a connie fan big connie fan so that has everything to do with her virginity uh whatever
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the answers are multiply it by three and that's the real number for all of you um ellen if i give you a
08:14:45.820
two dollar bill will you answer same this offer is extended to you and chloe i what did chloe two
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dollar bill do you know how much this is worth ellen i actually used to collect two dollar bills so i
08:14:59.020
have a plethora of them at home this is a crisp one though no but mine's like brand new
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mines are this is brand new no but i would like to keep my private matters private personal two dollar
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bill you have a collection of two dollar bills also no all right thank you all right hey some
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things can't be bought for everything else there's the mastercard okay um more chats the
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fuck bro by the way this is the row session row session to 21 dollars five is literally the lowest
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iq to have ever been on here that's me i have opinions are different seven is just a notch below
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the mental inability chair four has been the most honest this episode has been awful thank you bro i
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appreciate the awful episode i disagree i thought it was good i thought it was it was okay would he
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donated twenty dollars chair five with the lived out grandma glasses what is your prescription or is it
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a claim to marginalization because you're a white woman yeah do you have lenses she actually do we have
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the eye patch video uh photo damien did we get an eye patch on her in the discord in the research i
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think in the research tab or whatever oh damn bro okay shit dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated
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twenty dollars funny how ellen can criticize men but can't tell the idiot next to her she's wrong
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i'm for the draft with this generation they need to be eliminated so we can start from a clean slate
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it's a row session you know we're doing a row session guys and you know they're gonna roast
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lol paladins donated twenty dollars thank you guys i have a body count of 500 and i only have sex with
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virgins definitely not interested in anyone on this panel boo roasted damn that's crazy lol paladins
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and that guy's like a pumper too like that guy he's killing it in season of discovery
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yeah like he's really good like he pumps like he parses like he's sweaty with it too like full
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consumes full world buffs like 300 engineering like he's sweaty good talk um all right we have
08:17:10.060
michael jones with the hundred dollar super chat so ladies thank you all for being here look if a
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madman ran into the whatever podcast right now you would all expect brian to get up and intervene
08:17:18.460
protect you all why it's because that's what men do throughout history that's what men have always
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done thank you michael jones i know it took us a while to get to the super chat but uh i do
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appreciate your super chat i don't know if you're still in the chat but thank you for the uh super
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man super chat appreciate it uh we have dragon's talon a woman's probability of divorce with seven
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years is 76 if you had more than 10 male partners why would a man want to take a chance on you
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question for the ages dragon's talon thank you for a dope name bro thank you for the uh super chat man
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really appreciate it thank you thank you more roasts coming through gmd jim donated 20 well played
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brixton the cognitive dissonance level was off the chart today have you ever considered a panel of all
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primates to see if you can get a higher level of intellectual honesty um you know what i do want
08:18:13.980
to get a panel of all uh maybe not all because this can be hard but like female incels fem fem cells
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if there's any fem cells watching any female incels not fem cells female incels because like fem cell
08:18:27.900
there's all kind of language tricks being played if you're a female incel i want to hear from you i want
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to have you on the show it's it's i don't even think that's a thing but just for the sale if you
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will self id as a female incel i'd like to hear from you uh let's see we have um really quick to those
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who said bear would you guys be willing to i'll get we'll film it i'll have a cage with a man and then
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a cage with a bear i will pay you ten thousand dollars to get in the cage with the bear for 10
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minutes what kind of bear uh it will be there will be uh a we will roll a dice or some shit proportionate
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to the amount of bears that are in the united states we will we will uh roll a dice and proportionate to
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the amount of bears there are you know it could be a grizzly it could be a black bear it could be a
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brown bear random bear and then we'll select a random man who's geographically located in this area
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in california in california geographically located and then there's you'll be presented with the option
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you can go in the cage with the man or the cage with the bear for 10 minutes and i will pay you ten
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thousand dollars to go in the cage with the bear for 10 minutes for the man you'd get a hamburger
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if you do that i mean at least you get something so there's there's more incentive to pick the bear
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not just your fear of men down down so i'll i'll pay you ten thousand dollars all right let's set it up to
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fucking kick it in a cage with the bear yeah and chloe you'll do it it's fun sounding y'all crazy bro
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y'all crazy son that's crazy dude daniel nostri donated twenty dollars sorry they're gonna roast
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the level of retardation in this room is outstanding oh i have never heard so much misinformation and
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disinformation in my life your usefulness to this nation is null along with your us that's crazy
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that's crazy thank you man it's so donated twenty dollars yo thank you man saying hi from algeria
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big fan of the show appreciate it bro i got family or i had family i had family from algeria
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back in the day smaxi jelly donated twenty dollars thank you man the only b word you should call these
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women are beautiful because btchs love when you call them beautiful you can't expect a wifey treatment
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if you don't give husband treatment oh in donated twenty dollars chair six complaining about this
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podcast talking politics have you not seen the forby and other tick tocks where lives dump cons in
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response to trump's re-election proves that politics and dating are linked it is maybe among
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a donated twenty dollars if a bear wants to eat you it doesn't kill you quickly first a bear will
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start eating you alive right away and it will take you many agonizing minutes to bleed out use wisely
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your power of choice sean davis donated twenty dollars hey brian hello from new zealand again what a
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beautiful panel of girls i have really enjoyed the show fyi i am well off financially
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and cannot find a woman that is not so self-absorbed damn sorry to hear man
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new zealand got leaves two ratings from right to left goth mammy seven abg 6.5 blondie seven
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mani pacquiao five delusional raging feminist five six four indian girl four chatted 304
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five tiffany five oh was that a rating yeah that was the rating your mani pacquiao i didn't miss i
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missed it yeah i was confused isn't he philippine jack underscore m donated twenty dollars and you're
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a tie right number five how are babies made disturbed this is for you do you remember what
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oh okay uh oh boy they're really coming for you oh boy random bear random bear just my personal
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opinion you chair five r a blank weird al called and wants his hair come back w bergson for putting up
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this on idiocracy look she was good she was good um uh can we pull the the bear meme damian can you pull
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term i at ops for donated twenty dollars chair one i'd like to watch the movie the ring where you're the
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girl that comes out of the well chair five your crazy leftist upside down views are broken and nonsensical
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reality does not bend to feelings can you put your do you know the ring yeah can you just do your
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hair like that right now it's the end of the show so it's like we're about to wrap so it's like
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fuck it you know holy shit i'm kind of freaked out no more more more more more yeah get that straight
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get that straight in the front okay is it straight i can't see wait can you do it too me yeah
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it's the end of the show right fuck it might as well right i have bangs you know i can
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fuck it damn wait every girl at the table can you do the ring hair lexi come on lexi come on bro
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she is blonde i feel like it's gotta be darker hair you know i think my hair is tight boss let's see it
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just do like a damn sketch like emo ellen hook it up ellen come on we're homies now you got a
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ellen ring hair what even is ring hair uh the ring have you you know the horror movie oh it's like the
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she has her hair like so just go like this with your hair and just like pull it directly no you're
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totally but my hair is not straight like their hair is like straight so okay fine it's a wavy ring
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girl oh come on full send full sending ellen full send it keep going just get that
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fucking okay i think this is like that's really good i'm kind of terrified right now max i am
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it's terror i'm so scared okay daniel nocery donated twenty dollars thank you man you are
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useless entitled good for nothing feminist parasites in u.s society being voted out of
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office enjoy your misery for the next four years as well as your woke coke panic and feminism's death
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chill out guys chill out holy five chair is an idiot donated twenty dollars first didn't she say a
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woman that doesn't exist exists wouldn't that mean all those things that don't exist exist
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second her personal experience equals bananas she's bananas i said it brett cooper's daddy donated
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twenty dollars chloe please do not have children for the love of god please don't chariot
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hollo at me cherry who's that is that you what's up oh what's up josh donated twenty dollars trying
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to be a stepfather how do you sit there and not correct these bimbos as they say don't use that
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they are not it's unreal they can't even refer to their own gender properly it's torture to listen
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to look you know uh in not wrong underscore on underscore x donated twenty one dollars
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chair four has too many bodies most of you are actually retarded number nine is fine and semi-smart
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most insufferable panels since nala semper fi roasters like a week ago classy
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daryl underscore frank carson five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars chair eight you're
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a hypocrite you said unfortunately your bd is still alive after killing two babies and almost the
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third one that's probably why he ghosted you hashtag send dot the dot you guys want to fire they
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coming for you you guys gotta fire back donated twenty dollars come on chloe fire five you said you
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wanted to be a mom via artificial insemination you should use a trans man's sperm if arto please
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don't procreate for chloe donated twenty dollars fire back chloe a micro penis is just an a cup
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all are welcome here in whatever first off i just want to come to the defense of i am part of the small
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titty committee i think it's wrong the the bigotry that the attacks of the women with the small
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boobs get is really unfair i'm against it i am in solidarity i am with you guys who have small
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boobs i'm on your uh i am a ally i don't actually i've gained a bit of weight so i actually kind of
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like it's not just i'm an ally i actually i got a dab all right i'm kind of like i gotta lose a bit
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of weight you know so i i also i know what it's like to have small boobs okay good talk uh you know
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look i gotta lose some weight it is what it is you know um but i think it's wrong that they be
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coming for you guys sometimes you know if like you got pasta i'm not it's not because i'm looking
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i'm not looking at you i'm just saying like women with small boobs like you know i'd rather have like
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small perky boobs than like big saggy boobs like so some like knee slapper yeah like you walk and you
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can like hear it like here's what's crazy i i got i i upset a girl a previous show because i was like
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i feel like i'm even gonna upset the small boob girls if i like okay so i think there's like
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something kind of elegant about small titties you know what i mean i agree because being skinny is
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class i wasn't going there i was just like why do you think does anybody here have fake titties do you
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have i don't you don't no fake titties okay anybody unfortunately not look i'm just saying
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like you look at greek and roman sculptures they didn't have like giant fucking cam crusher titties
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on like greek and roman skull like they were very modest like b cup a cup
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i'm just saying the greeks were on to something you know what i mean
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okay good talk uh let's see we have submersible honky donated twenty dollars chair one would you
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please say the following the night is dark and full of terrors
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oh it's not weird it's game of thrones it's not a weird thing yeah it's just game of thrones it's not
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like weird what is it then the night is dark and full of terrors the night is dark and full of
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terrors wow that was great good job good job melisandra character from the uh show any game
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of thrones people here you guys are missing out although well not really because the end sucked so
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zayim two oh one two nine nine donated twenty dollars thank you man appreciate it hi brian
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big fan of the show been watching for a while and enjoy the podcast appreciate the work yourself
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and the whatever team do to bring us the great content thank you zayim thank you thank you
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vector donated twenty dollars chair five have you ever misgendered someone who identifies as
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gender fluid my sprinkler goes like this and comes back like this oh whoa that was new
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chair five please don't kids donated twenty dollars chair five did you eat a lot of paint chips as a
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kid shoot back fire back chloe go ahead fire back call him a a dork or something
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okay all right just trying to help you know all right oh my god daniel nosseri donated twenty
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dollars brian you need to be handed a medal for listening to this level of unrelentless garbage
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thank you retarded south korean race traitors you just gave brian enough viral clips to last twenty
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twenty twenty five wait lol paladins donated twenty dollars is that about me i need to hear what michael
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knows just who is an old simp and also stupid said about andrew wilson uh andrew's gonna address it
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on tuesday's show he'll address it on tuesday's show the affirmed fellow donated twenty dollars
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chair five could have told us she woke up this morning thinking she was john lennon and we would
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have believed her before her gender argument he had a really good song john lennon imagine
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do you want to you're a singer can you sing imagine no thank you okay
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lol paladins donated twenty dollars brixton you are a liar you say you're a member of the itty
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bitty committee i am but in reality you always put the girls that get the views in seat number one
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don't deny reality like your panelists i put the girl with the color hair in seat one not because of
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boobs you are wrong sir it has nothing to do with boobs has everything to do with hair color
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you are mistaken lol paladins rude thor donated twenty dollars this panel guest is so boring tonight
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they probably give unenthusiastic hand jobs chair one can i get that surprising bj with that black
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lipstick what the fuck thor what the fuck um also like d as a guy do you even want an enthusiastic hand job
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you know like if a girl was like let's say i was like i i went out with a girl right i went out with
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a girl and she was like look i don't really want to like do oral i don't want to do it but like i'll
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give you a hand job i would just be like i'm good we can just kick it we can just talk you know i'd turn
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down i'd be like nah chill out lady there definitely is something different like with giving someone a
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hand job versus like putting your mouth on it because like i don't know i feel like a lot of
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people like actually from like the like my guy friends are like everyone always forgets to like take
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off their rings or like oh you know all of this even if there are no ornaments on your hand
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even if it's totally good and well i guess with the mouth you can like suck one time i was dating
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and i was hooking up with her and it was dark and she just giving me a hand job
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oh was it like the rough hands it felt like a dude oh like i was like damn it was calluses yeah it
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was like okay rough son i was like what the fuck well then don't and i was like starting to question
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myself like am i kind of gay i was starting to think am i gay oh well because i was like kind of
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you know it was like it i was like it was conflicting because it like felt good it was still like it was
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still a hand job so it still sucked but you know like whatever but she had like she played lacrosse and
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she was a babe you know but like it was dark and she had like calluses and shit she used like lotion or
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like spit or like was it just like dry it's tmi i'm not that kind of reveal these details but like
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i don't know ladies just like from a guy who will you can ask me anything i'll be honest with you i'm
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not going to sugarcoat it because i like a lot of guys you got to think right here i'm going to give
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you girls some game guys will say what you want to hear so they have a better chance of having sex with
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you they will lie they will cheat they will steal because they want to get you know they want to get
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you i don't think this is good they shouldn't do it i believe in honesty even if it risks offending
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somebody uh just like don't do the hand job thing you know just like cut that out just
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be like you know go you can't be half a gangster you either okay but what if you're giving head but
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also using your hands at the same time that's that's advised yeah okay that's because it's like
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combo points but no on its own no just don't even do it to be honest chat what do you guys think i
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mean i'd rather just i'd rather just go home don't even do that what about the feet
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foot job what the foot i'm just bringing it up because it's like a normal thing i don't know if the
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boot changes anything i'd have to think about it if there's a boot nah probably foot what the
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fuck some people are into that it just wouldn't okay no don't do that okay uh we have more coming
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through there's a bunch dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars jess evan won't
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say her body count cause she's ashamed especially coming from a religious family scary how she's in
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the medical field and can't tell you what a female's it hashtag dip author
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i don't really know what that has to do with me performing in the medical field libertariat
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donated 20 dollars brixton is a man of culture boo boo in chair number one is based and of culture w
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thank you man appreciate it thank you libertariat we have some more coming through
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about booze coma donated 20 dollars thank you man appreciate it question for chloe would an ob-gyn
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i'm not an ob-gyn you're not dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars this is the
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quietest chair five has been all night finally i thought chair one was a trans mannequin at first glance
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never invite chair three and six again brian waste of oxygen in that room
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first off they both have very small frames the oxygen was not substantially depleted due to chair
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three and chair six uh i thought lexi and ellen really you guys talked too much to be honest
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you think so i think you guys especially you lexi i mean i couldn't get you to shut up the whole show
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oh and you ellen well you were just no i was yapping right you were yapping you were a professional
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yap yapper or whatever it is and um so okay thank you uh we got derson all thank you derson all donated
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twenty dollars these girls want you to risk your life for them but they can't even be honest to answer
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obvious questions and chose a bear also if the good die young and women live longer than men are women
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good damn that was like some shakespeare shit that was crazy um i can't okay
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daniel nostri donated twenty dollars chair one has some big old nice as well as strong titties
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i suspect she combusts in sunlight and has fangs are you a vampire i get called that all the time
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and i love it yeah i think that's hot okay that's hot um also aren't you like a contortionist is the
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word yeah i am yeah can you show us something or is it's not wardrobe no appropriate right do you want
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to like throw on like a t-shirt or something and you could do like that crazy i saw your instagram bro
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oh you saw that would you do would you do it on like the table or some shit i could do that but i
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couldn't do it in this no yeah well we don't want like a titty popping out like a t-shirt um do you
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want a smash the patriarchy t-shirt or do you want a kamala harris 2024 t-shirt that's all i have to
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give you oh i don't know you gotta pick one those are good options that's all you've got really i don't
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care you'll you'll let me pick yeah okay based patriarchy wins again uh okay wait uh hold on we got
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more coming we'll do that at the end though cornelius butt knuckle donated twenty dollars
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these guys are crazy five i don't think you're stupid but you're very ignorant to the world around
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you you need to get out more and do some people watching brian how the orangutan titties doing
08:39:14.460
first off i've lost five pounds i'm on that look i'm on a diet i've gained a bit of weight but i'm
08:39:19.660
gonna lose it in fact you know listen i used to be very trim in my when i was younger i was very fit
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damien why don't you pull it up to instagram just so they don't believe me but you know
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i was uh you know i wasn't too bad in my younger days uh jackum said god damn bro y'all jack underscore
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m donated twenty dollars chair number five if chair number one gave me a blow and her lipstick rubbed off
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on my d does that mean i can claim my d as black now the color matches the size
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kitten bear donated twenty dollars i feel bad for the soy boy chair one pegged but hey chair
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one's a straight up pegasus everyone who's seen the pegasus say yay
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word josh donated twenty dollars brian remember this that feeling you had as you watched nala's
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husband call out andrew for his anti-christian swearing and name calling behavior that was you
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hearing and feeling the truth oh okay donated twenty dollars you should just kick girls like chair five
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or femo they clearly don't believe in anything they are saying and are just here to disagree with
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everything you say and push an agenda boring to see you're like really popular right now libertariat
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donated twenty dollars the thing is number one with the vanta black lipstick copyright strike incoming
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the thing is i made a decision when i was going to come on here that
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daniel nostri donated twenty dollars for the love of god please put a t-shirt on chair one and get
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her to contort on the table and they are very rage bait and argumentative that if that's the way it
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headed towards i was going to just rage bait just as much so like sexy jelly donated twenty dollars
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chair one and nine is actually based and beautiful if they're doing stuff to make me mad i'll just do
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stop with the burritos chair four is cute but body count disqualify her chair five is delusional
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sorry to disappoint i had a history do you want like shorts or something yeah
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uh oh man um hmm i'll see about that one sec toxic podcast donated twenty dollars once again brian
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and andrew spew homophobic and misogynist garbage on his religious extremist not dating show brian
08:41:49.580
would rather bang a trans man so he'd rather look at a dude having sex tell us us uh i'm not
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religious though so i don't know i there's certain things about christianity that i find very
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compelling uh but i'm not i'm not religious so um i cite i do think there's like uh compelling bible
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verses that i think are fantastic but yeah i'm not religious so i mean sorry to burst your bubble
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there buddy uh word okay we're gonna wrap with the super chats we're gonna get these three and i
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that's it for the i mean uh brian i'm sending you an invoice for 100 my bs detector got fried listening
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to all the cap on the body counts dragon's town thank you for the uh super chat man appreciate it
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uh let's be honest if you don't have woman do you mean women like chair five what would you do on the
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show i would talk to pos about her sexual adventures
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and i would talk to cena about how we're gonna annex canada and evade it and i would talk to her about
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vampire shit and garlic i don't know uh eberus is chair one single best looking one oh you got some
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fans sweet uh are you single i am single how many guys are currently in the picture be honest nothing
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there's no guys how long you've been celibate for quite a minute quite a minute i don't know how long
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exactly i would say like a day no like a month or two a month or two okay cool all right guys thank you
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for all the super chats thank you for all that once she's back we'll wrap up the show uh guys like the
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video please if you want you you can get a final last call on these uh practicing gentleman donated
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twenty dollars chair five you look like gretchen grundler from recess not going to lie though the
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glasses are doing it for me too bad you are a fucking moron damn bro chill out man thank you
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toxic podcast donated twenty dollars not religious what's your body count i don't reveal my body count
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because yeah double agent donated twenty dollars what's the situation new year's eve live show
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plans for 2025 taking the show on the road uh sorry hold on let me pause that i'll get to i'll
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answer that gmd jim donated twenty dollars speaking of that vacuous whole no and her non-christian
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boyfriend did you ever disavow his on air death threat uh i think i mean i didn't overtly
08:44:53.260
disavow i might have i forgot what i might have been like that's fucked up or some shit
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and i'm pretty sure uh i mean the thing is sometimes it's best to just like let
08:45:01.900
shit move on instead of addressing it because it puts more like more focus on it sometimes it's
08:45:06.700
better to just not address something versus a dress granted i fuck up on that all the time as far as our
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plans for 2025 we'll be back with the podcast there will be a a break uh we're going to be taking a couple
08:45:19.340
weeks off just during the holidays and stuff so uh we'll be back in probably uh some point in january
08:45:26.780
not sure exactly when but there will be a couple weeks off so
08:45:32.140
dariel um i'll pull that back up she's not at the table um hold on there's a couple coming through
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one sec guys who we're gonna raid who we're gonna raid uh pull up twitch while we're waiting i guess
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oh hold on vector donated twenty dollars thank you vector black lips you are great
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auburn hatsu name iku not based only stands weirdo jillian michaels christian based sex doll get in
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the men aliankovic peculiar human asian sensation crazy train oh he's giving us all who we nicknames
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kind of i guess uh who's reading who's playing right now we got
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we'll do frosted on this one um can you pull up uh our twitch really quick this will be the final
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shot guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever guys drop us a follow drop us a prime sub guys can you just
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check if you have a prime sub available uh it's been an hour since we oh no it's been three hours
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since we last had a prime guys just check if you've got a prime sub available uh thank you dennis for the
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tier one i really appreciate it also just drop us a follow if you can guys and then let's see
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vector donated twenty dollars girl gandhi great asian sensation too good stuff dumpy mcbrian
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lose it sweet okay also guys go to our discord discord.gg slash whatever final call out for the
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discord guys join join the uh whatever discord we're playing world of warcraft guys join the
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guild the whatever guild you gotta join gotta join guys we're gonna play she's gonna play with us
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she's gonna play warlock tiffany's gonna play um a christian nationalist um i don't think that's
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actually you can't play then uh mr tree work good morning from the east coast bud hope you're doing
08:47:27.180
well yo tree work thank you man appreciate it uh you're up early over even there on the east coast
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thank you for the uh sweet chat man appreciate it oh my these guys are on fire holy shit okay uh
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butter thing for the gifted five subs appreciate it uh daryl i'm pulling yours back up here this is for
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you if you want to respond daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated 20 dollars chair eight can you
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please send your abortion clinics info to chair five's mom so that she never produces and more retards in
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this world she's clearly the product of ancestry it was planned parenthood daniel nostri donated 20
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black lips are coagulated blood and not lipstick uh daniel thank you so much for the uh tts man i do
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appreciate it thank you thank you you have another one coming through christopher scott donated 20
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dollars so while brian was up chair five basically said she came on to troll we kind of figured lol
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i don't know do you actually believe it because people can just like try to walk back like the
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dumb shit they said i decided that if i came on here and this was in fact a nice little dating podcast
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and that's that that's cute that's cool but if this is one of those rage baity more so political ones
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then i was just going to act just as rage baiting and dumb as you guys were going to act so i mean
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you believe all the shit you said no i don't oh okay so you're like against you're transphobic then
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no half of it was the really really absurd shit is bullshit and the other stuff was not okay cool i mean
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so i i don't see why why why is it actually like why is it rage bait to have a position on uh it's
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more so if you expect to go into something doing one thing and then it's taken a more
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adverse stance then you know i'm just gonna i just act the way other people i feel are acting yeah but
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i mean you've been familiar with the podcast for like no i haven't been familiar i mean you reached out
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to us back in march of 20 i reached out in march and then i stopped yeah sure i followed up i moved
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away yep i saw a new advertisement i didn't actually even realize it was the same one until probably
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yesterday no we said you asked what is the podcast and we said it's the whatever podcast which you
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could have looked up if which i didn't already reached out in march of 2024 when i saw again another
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casting thing of it i wasn't like oh my god i saw this podcast i really want to be on this podcast i
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love this podcast right but i saw a casting i applied to it i applied to basically any casting
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yeah that's cool but like i mean typically at least most people will do like some modicum of like
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looking into like okay what am i gonna go on like that's on you that's on you i mean i don't know what
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to tell you if you didn't have 30 minutes to like go look at one of our live shows and like get an
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assessment of the nature of the podcast and that we have like disagreements and sometimes the
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conversations can be disagreements or adversarial then i guess that's on you but like there's no
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bamboozling you reached out originally in march of 2024 you could have like you had plenty of time
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to do research on the podcast not sure what to tell you never said that cool libertariat donated 20
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up early we are all up late est master race going into work now
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uh easter he's talking about living on these coasts is master race um cool thank you man
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libertarian appreciate it man woolen guinea donated 20 dollars how does a chick get on here i tried the
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show zig but yeah i can fly out there from maine whenever uh okay yeah uh did you dm have we responded
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to you i don't know but if you dm at whatever on instagram we can get you through the casting process
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um let me see if there's any other last minute things here that we have to do
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um uh alissa just one point of clarification you said you've never been in a relationship
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a day in your life but is that just like kind of like a cope thing yeah okay oh all right you're
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honest about it um let's see if there's anything else um tiffany did you want to weigh in on any of your
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takes how about just i'll do one just since we're short of time you said only men should make
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decisions for the family however however in the best interest of his wife and kids and not himself
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any girls object to this she's saying only men should make decisions for the family
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i think that's completely unfair i think women should also like have a say in what they would
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like to do as a wife tiffany what's your response
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you could definitely consult her husband about it but the final decision should be made by the man
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uh your response pause do you disagree with that the guy the guy should be considerate enough
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to take in your opinion yeah but you're in a relationship have final say yeah essentially okay
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i do you agree disagree with that i i think when you're in a relationship there's some sort of like
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partnership and there isn't one if like you guys can't go 50 50 on like say or like understandings
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like what if you disagree you're just gonna be like okay well oops my bad
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i think if you discuss it with your husband you guys would come to some sort of compromise okay so
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if your boyfriend wanted to do something that you disagree with would you still do it just because he
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has say i would end up agreeing with him most of the time so you would change your answer your
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like whole belief just because you're wanting to agree with your boyfriend
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if he explains his standpoint i think i would eventually come into agreement with him do you
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have an example of what you would like change your mind and agree with um
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i can't think of one off the top of my head okay okay um let's see here
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uh cena i'll get into your notes on tuesday because you're back with us tuesday right so
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i'll just get into that on uh pause uh we i think we hit pretty much all your notes uh i think the
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only thing though is um uh you believe the pretty privilege is a thing i guess final thing on this
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is oh yeah i don't know like um everyone here is pretty so has anyone like ever experienced like
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going out and you just like get free drinks from someone or you can just like tag along it's like a
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guy a bar and they'll just like buy you a drink kind of like that so that's kind of what i was talking
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about um guys can do the same thing except i think when guys do it other like maybe like females or
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other guys are a little bit more intimidated by it um because girls don't normally go up to an
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attractive guy versus like guys going up to girls like the ratio of that is a lot more high for a
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guy to walk up to a girl well you said here in your notes you said something about uh you witnessed a
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girlfriend of yours she started peeing with half of her ass off the couch of whoever's house we were at
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and she was still talking to this guy like it wasn't happening and he doesn't know this because
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he was actually blinded by her what her big boobs
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so that was just like an example i gave pretty privilege pretty privilege was she could urinate
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on herself in public and because of her giant titties the guy who was like looking at anything
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else but do you think she was peeing herself i really do not think so but like he was so distracted
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by the the the can crusher knockers that he that was her pretty privilege it was a privilege she has
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a privilege because if she as a woman if like if she had small boobs he would notice the urination
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on herself maybe i mean if you were sitting across from them like i was you would have seen the
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waterfall go down leaking it was yeah there was a whole puddle i saw someone like sit next to that
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puddle and i was like why is this wet he was distracted because of the titties yeah i literally
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did not notice but super obvious and this is and this is just a pretty privilege that women with
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large titties i agree with you women with large titties you can distract men with your large titties
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especially if you're urinating on a couch what the get away with a lot that's crazy okay and then i guess
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final thing from you pos um you're like i think we should normalize talking to possible possible
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partners about what they're into or what is loud because i'm a very curious person like most things
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but when it comes to not giving me any sort of warning and then he spit in my mouth nope got to go
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yeah so you want to you want the guy to at least check in with you before he spits on you yeah it's
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like that'd be nice how maybe like you're having sex with someone you're not just going to like
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expect him to just put your like taking your ass you know what i mean like yeah like you got
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you're into that yeah i agree yeah like some of that crazier like like you gotta check first you
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know uh-huh but like also like but wouldn't you say like pause for you at least like maybe there's
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a scale to this like would you want a guy to be like excuse me madame may i spank your bum like
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you'd want the guy to just do it right yeah yeah for some things you'd like you just want the guy to do
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it yeah yeah but like crazy shit like you maybe ask for it you know i mean yeah excuse me madame may
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i spit in your mouth that is i what is hot i don't get that what's cool that's kind of crazy it wasn't
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even like a hot spit like i've had like you just had like onions no it was more like um you know when
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people like hurl back clicks live in the back of the oh it was like one of those yeah like i tasted
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it i like felt in my mouth you should you should just like take a break for you should have you
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thought about becoming a nun you should become a nun pass the nun i don't good talk oh and then last
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thing from pos about your friend avantika she's from the valley and then two years ago on a trip planned
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by one of your best guy friends he met her day before the trip and she said yes to come along
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with a group of us she did not know so i knew automatically she's insane
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but that's why we're second to you is that i mean yeah because we're just both yeah you're
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you're spontaneous you're spontaneous all right uh last few chats then we're gonna wrap the show i
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promise beaten cheeks donated twenty dollars all right so we have a troll perhaps we need a vetting
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process uh oh shall i use my skills to vet your guests uh man that that's a lot to ask of you
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beat in cheeks that you're very busy with your businesses in florida and and um not florida
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and you know you've got that thing in in uh he he's a he he has a business in antarctica even
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he haunts polar bears oh for science doesn't hunt he doesn't kill them he haunts them to learn
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about polar bears and their testicles because he studies polar bear
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um anyways never mind snap more donated i revealed too much sorry 99 cents
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fucking cringe it's coke she's a massive liar all question against feminists are important in this
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day more than ever huge feminist male politics is affecting men and women massively feminists
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equals anti-men wouldn't the bigger like troll or whatever like if you know what the podcast or
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the podcast could be about like instead of just essentially like letting us farm you for clips like
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the bigger like troll would be to just be like no offense like ellen just be like yeah i don't want to
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talk about that and like not give us anything instead you just like i mean by you basically
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just like fed us content yes because i'm not gonna sit through this whole time saying nothing i would
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go crazy oh okay so it's just like self-entertainment yeah but like the bigger w is the troll would be to
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just like not give us anything i mean i was doing it because i thought it would be funny for myself okay
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all right uh a non-donated twenty dollars you should just disengage with people like chair five
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clearly trolling all show not even fun to watch because there's no real conversation
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peace chair one is beautiful would it be gay to let her peg me
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i'm gatoria donated twenty dollars don't be a coomer don't good morning from latom chair one looks like
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some kind of sexy gothic waifu can she do a you woo warrior meet kudasai for us very appreciated
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libertariat donated twenty dollars is she mentioning a hawk to you perhaps
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pause wait what what uh okay so can can we get that uwu from you what is that you don't know the uwu
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no cena help us out can you tilt your mic down a bit i don't know what you don't come on bro you
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know what the fuck can you demonstrate i'm not yeah i'll do the uwu if every single girl here does
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the uwu okay go lexi no you're lost lexi you could have had an uwu um go ahead cena come on
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i feel like you'd be so good at it yeah you demonstrate it you have the look you just like
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say it in like a cute like anime voice pretty much do you know the ahi go yeah can you do the
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ahi go of course okay what camera you want me to do this camera right here okay
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both not at the same time like do a height a hey gal and then uwu
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that's the hey gal yeah get ready into this camera right here
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like that or you want to flatter what do i want what no do it again you again did you say
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what did she say you want it flatter flatter like the tongue i don't know what that means
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i like that good job okay that was good ellen come on home you got to do that i don't know how to do
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that can you do uwu i don't even know what you gotta demonstrate it first i feel like i need to ask a
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white girl so that i don't get accused of racism uh lexi will you do that i did that i already asked
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lexi she'll do the uwu lexi do it come on w lexi if i do it will you do it no okay go ahead do the
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uwu okay you do it no cena you do it and you do it first i'm not doing it i'm not doing the uwu i'll
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only do it if every single girl here does it first do you want to how about you just do the uwu then
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why they asked her no yeah but she doesn't know how to do it so can you demonstrate for her i don't
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know how to do it here it's like this here okay hold on i'm not going to demonstrate it but
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like anime voice i thought it was that face no go ahead do it can i do that face instead sure go
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ahead uh into the into this camera that camera okay what did you do like her you cross your eyes kind
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of up okay this camera right here yeah like that wow okay now she's gonna start an only dance
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what the oh my god ridiculous okay uh let's see two two other chats then we're
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devon jackson donated twenty dollars i wake up the show's still going and the first thing jay here is
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begging yes that makes you gay kuma thank you davon jackson appreciate it definitely kuma
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anybody else want to take a crack daniel seri donated twenty dollars hey dracula ordered you
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to contort that stuff on the table i don't know if i can cross my eyes like that oh okay you want to
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try like i can't do it okay okay all right thank you guys uh we have uh this guy he's curious about
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your name and instagram if you want to share it my name's gianna and my instagram is baby gianna b-a-b-e-y-g-i-a-a-
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n-n-n-a wait question your last name are you can you share your last name i don't know sure yeah
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my last name is fang f-u-n-g are you like half chinese yeah okay all right oh yeah she's she's
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wajian i'm super mixed like a lot like 50 50 no no not at all i'm um russian italian cuban and chinese
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so you're like 25 right okay i see all right uh okay guys we got to wrap up the show it's gone uh
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it's gone on quite a bit so guys like the video please like the video please on your way out thank
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you guys for tuning in tonight really appreciate it um we are gonna do a raid for let me see who we can
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rate on twitch really quick we are rating who who we rating oh my goodness where is he we're gonna do
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frosted domus okay um so while he's getting that pulled up let's see um no we're all good we're all
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good all right one give me one sec while i do the outro here i think that's pretty much everything
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man oh alissa sorry last thing alissa um you said in your thing that uh you cannot be racist towards
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white people no i read it sorry i read it wrong oh okay okay cool we're good all right cool that was
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okay so um one sec guys let me get the outro out of the way okay so uh i'd like to end the show by
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seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action would you consider
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stopping sex work entirely no i tried my best okay gg well played well played well played gg well
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played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out if you can pull that up
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damien thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here
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with me i appreciate it sorry guys i'm gonna pull um oh i just hold on let me just hold on sorry scuffed
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my bad that was my bad pause that for a sec uh you could have been anywhere in the world but you're
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here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and so generously supports
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the show your patronage uh we couldn't do the show without you with we're fan funded we're not like
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we ain't getting no color daddy spotify deal we're not getting freaking crazy sponsorships
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like these podcasts with half or even a you know whatever half a third a fourth of our audience um
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we will be live again tuesday at 5 p.m pacific cena's going to be coming back she's going to be quitting
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only fans on that show for sure uh i think we can make it happen any girls who want to be on the
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on the show dml whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara big thank you to the
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wonderful panel you guys were super dope i loved you guys you guys were great thank you guys for
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coming um you know there's there were disagreements that were had i don't have it's just uh you know
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it's just a conversation no bad feelings towards any of you even if we agreed or disagreed uh but thank
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you all so much for coming i know we didn't go pretty late tonight so i do appreciate your guys's
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patience here uh so thank you guys really appreciate it great panel any girls all right he said that uh
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we are going to raid thank you guys for watching on twitch i'm going to raid frost adamus he's playing
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hardcore world of warcraft classic he's got a 30 orc warrior go tell him he needs to uh you can pull
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it up tell him he needs to uh he needs to uh let himself uh no it's hardcore he can't uh just tell
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him uh he's in romania streaming in his kitchen so tell him uh what's up tell me as you hope he has
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a good stream and uh yeah thank you guys for watching on twitch i'm going to send the raid
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now and if you oh guys if you want join the world of the whatever world of warcraft guild we're playing
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uh pvp realm night slayer join the discord discord.gg slash whatever if you want to play with us
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all right guys i'm sending the raid now hope you guys have a good night thank you guys for watching
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on twitch reading now all right that's it oh can you mute the uh hold on let me just mute the audio
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for just oh oh play you can play it play play with a huge raid playing some copyright music
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okay whatever i gotta i gotta i gotta thank you very much brian big shout out to you
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sweet thank you uh frosty appreciate it man okay oh sevens in the chat good night guys
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long stream good night guys we'll be live again on tuesday i hope you guys have a good night oh sevens