Gold Digger SHAMES Broke Men?! GODLY OnlyFans Girl?! Fiancé GHOSTED Her?! | Dating Talk #125
Episode Stats
Length
6 hours and 59 minutes
Words per minute
178.55835
Harmful content
Misogyny
550
sentences flagged
Toxicity
613
sentences flagged
Hate speech
388
sentences flagged
Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we have a special guest on the show to discuss the patriarchy, femininity, and hypergamy. She's a hair stylist, a hair business owner, a feminist, and an advocate for women who want to level up.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
00:00:12.400
hellscape thanks for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here
00:00:16.120
with me i appreciate that we're coming to you live from santa barbara california every sunday
00:00:20.140
and tuesday at 5 p.m pacific i am your host brian atlas i'm joined by my co-host kiki
00:00:26.240
she's a bit shy a few quick announcements before the show begins this podcast is viewer supported
00:00:31.800
heavy youtube demonetization so please consider donating through stream labs which we have pulled
00:00:36.440
up here as youtube takes a brutal 30 cut some quick mass for y'all if you super chat 100 youtube
00:00:44.020
takes 30 if you donate 100 stream labs only takes about three streamlabs.com slash whatever link is
00:00:50.400
in the description got a big panel tonight guys so for the sake of a smooth stream we have boosted
00:00:57.800
the read and tts triggers donations and super chats 10 and up will be displayed in stream overlay
00:01:03.320
donations and super chats 100 and up will be read slash answered if you want to interact nearly
00:01:08.280
instantly with us and weigh in on the conversation consider sending a tts text-to-speech message
00:01:13.580
the uh in the first 30 minutes of the show the tts will be 100 if you want to get any in
00:01:17.940
and then uh we'll go up to 200 thereafter tts is via stream labs only please see the description
00:01:25.400
for all triggers and full details we have channel memberships to become a member hit the join button
00:01:29.840
tier one is just five dollars a month you can also gift memberships we're also live on twitch
00:01:33.780
right now guys pull up another tab go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub
00:01:39.580
if you have one if you have amazon prime you can link it to your twitch it's a quick free easy way to
00:01:44.720
support the show every single month we got merch shop.whatever.com stuff you can wear to not be
00:01:48.720
naked don't be a criminal get some merch follow us on instagram at whatever any girls who want to be
1.00
00:01:53.860
on the show dm at whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara if you're interested in
00:01:58.020
sponsoring the podcast you can also dm dm us here or send me an email brian at whatever.com follow me
00:02:03.600
on instagram bd underscore atlas check out my non-profit big labia matter blm for short um
00:02:10.000
it's the pressing issue of our time 10 000 labiaplasties a year uh it's just a tragedy
00:02:16.620
if you can't catch the full shows we have a clips channel link is in the description go subscribe
00:02:20.520
we got a sponsor today this episode of the whatever podcast is sponsored by our friends over at the
00:02:28.020
x5 podcast so if you're a fan of comedy music content creators and tv personalities you should
00:02:37.280
definitely give their show a watch they've had some very interesting guests on and they put on a
00:02:41.160
great show uh they recently had chris hansen on that's their most recent video they interviewed him
00:02:46.500
so be sure to check out that episode you can find x5 episodes on youtube and other social media platforms
00:02:52.460
by searching x5 podcast or by clicking the link in the description be sure to like follow and subscribe
00:02:59.420
to the x5 podcast and let them know whatever sent you without further ado we're going to have the
00:03:05.340
guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation and where you're from go ahead
00:03:09.960
hi guys um ella fragment um i'm a hair business owner primarily and i also make tiktok content based on
00:03:19.820
femininity level up and hypergamy wait what were the last two oh level up like i help women okay in
0.99
00:03:27.600
their level up journey and hypergamy as well women interested in you help them with their hypergamy
00:03:34.700
yeah like to reinforce their hypergamy or to combat against the program patriarchal
00:03:41.580
things though wait reprogram program like reprogram what exactly sorry sorry my english no it's fine
00:03:48.580
that's fine what's your first uh language spanish oh spanish okay yeah i thought i detected it almost
00:03:55.500
a french accent but oh no my last name is french but yeah that's that's what i okay um you what about
00:04:02.080
the patriarchy and can i have you scoot your mic this way just a tad this way i'm sorry it's no
00:04:07.680
you're fine you're fine um what what about the patriarchy um well my content is about women that
00:04:14.880
want to attract high caliber men like high value men and when i say high value i don't mean your inherent
00:04:21.680
value i say value in your like in the dating market yeah so women that are interested in you know like
1.00
00:04:28.380
choosing better men for themselves maybe they're tired of like you know always like ending up with
0.99
00:04:34.140
you know men that abuse them men that are you know um don't have the best interest in them you know
00:04:40.700
stuff like that so i help them you know kind of like in the level up like because these are women that want
1.00
00:04:45.580
to level up their life like they want to do better for themselves they want to make more money they want to
00:04:51.980
level their self-esteem as well and so i you know they contact me uh i help them you know i coach them
00:04:59.180
on a little bit and you know essentially as women are women that are looking for niche what age what's
1.00
00:05:07.660
your age age 24 24 okay what what was the thing about the patriarchy though i wasn't really understanding
00:05:13.980
that reprogram about that like later on okay i'll bring it i can bring it back up later on uh reprogram
00:05:20.860
the is it was that what you said though reprogram the yeah reprogram woman because no no you said
1.00
00:05:26.300
patriarchy no because like woman i feel most women have in you know like misogyny internalized
1.00
00:05:34.860
but what was the specific term you used related to the patriarchy did you say reprogramming
00:05:40.060
the patriarchy kind of sorrow yeah okay i i will just generally bring up the patriarchy later then
00:05:48.300
um okay we can talk about later yeah um okay what about you hi my name is brigitte i'm 20 i do fundraising
00:05:56.300
for charity where are you from oh so sorry i'm from san diego california gotcha and uh what about you
00:06:03.660
where are you from i'm from new york new york nyc no well yeah well i'm from a lot of places
00:06:11.500
i was born in dominican republic okay race in madrid spain and then i'm here in new york okay yeah all
00:06:18.620
right but not new york city i'm sort of i don't think i'm i'm a new yorkan because staten island is
00:06:25.900
that part of no no no because like new yorkans are very like if you're if you're not born and raised
00:06:30.300
here you're not from new york yeah you can't claim okay yeah so what about you hi i'm shelby i'm 21 um
00:06:38.060
i'm a fundraising and operations manager i'm also from san diego okay hi i'm nikki i'm born and raised
00:06:46.220
in la and i'm 27. all right uh occupation i bartend i model um i do other things
00:06:56.780
drug dealing no well other things is kind of vague like um like only fans am i allowed to talk
00:07:04.540
about that yeah that's okay yeah okay you mentioned your occupation too right or did you say your
00:07:09.420
student uh fundraising oh fundraising that's right that's right gotcha what about you hi i'm nicole
00:07:15.740
i'm 20 and i'm a communication major at ucsb and i'm from the san francisco area got it were you
00:07:24.140
previously at santa barbara city college yes you transferred two years yeah and now i transferred
00:07:29.660
what about you hi i'm courtney i'm 20. oh we need a seat booster for her that's what i forgot
00:07:34.780
uh continue on with your introduction oh go ahead go ahead you're 20 and i currently work at a golf
00:07:41.180
course as a beverage cart attendant golf course beverage cart attendant where are you from northern
00:07:47.980
california okay got it what about you i am jordan i'm 37 and i am a senior general manager for uh fox
00:07:57.580
uh restaurants fox restaurants yeah they serve fox no it's it's a restaurant group sorry we have a we
00:08:05.660
have a lot of restaurants dumbest joke ever okay um and where are you from i'm from arizona arizona
0.58
00:08:13.340
okay welcome the q pill i'm 30 years old behavioral scientist certified relationship coach youtuber
0.93
00:08:19.740
book author all right welcome everybody so oh and quick uh in the title we were gonna have
00:08:26.060
this girl who recently went viral we're gonna have her do a call in she's in australia uh allegedly she
00:08:31.420
had food poisoning um so unfortunately not gonna be able to delve too much into that but uh
00:08:38.380
we'll uh probably be updating the title after the show so all right we're gonna go around the table
00:08:43.180
once more so what's your current relationship status are you single talking stage situationship
00:08:48.460
friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever kind of arrangement there might
00:08:53.420
be if you're single how long have you been single what's the longest relationship you've ever been in
00:08:59.260
go ahead i don't know well i will say i'm single i'm still talking to a person of the past and my
00:09:11.180
longest relationship has been two years okay how long have you been did you say how long you've been
00:09:18.460
single for i've been single for i would say two months two months like fully single yeah two months but
00:09:26.380
you're still talking to this individual who you were most recently dating yeah a little bit when's
00:09:31.340
the last time you talked to him yesterday yesterday yeah and was this the guy that you
00:09:39.900
were in a two-year relationship with yeah okay but what did you talk to him about yesterday
00:09:49.580
how frequently do you guys talk did you see him in person very supportive of me and um
00:09:56.220
damn well i have a very you know very supportive family as well but like we have history a little bit
00:10:03.420
and um he's actually happy that i'm here so hi oh he watches the show or no he watches me um no why is
0.97
00:10:14.700
he happy you're here then meaning um no he's he's a really good person and um yes i'm single but i'm
00:10:23.260
still talking who's the who's the guy yeah i'm just gonna say it i'm still talking to my ex who's the
00:10:28.460
guy who drove you here today that's him you said you talked to him yesterday we're off to a good
00:10:33.180
start you've already lied um no that's not lying you said you last talked to him yesterday but he
00:10:39.180
drove you here unless that car ride was completely mute i suspect you spoke to him today yes okay good
00:10:46.780
start um so you but you're single you've been single for two months ah it's it's complicated let's
00:10:56.220
leave it like that so you guys broke up on the car ride over here no no i don't want to get into
00:11:02.620
it what do you mean you don't want to get into it you're on a dating podcast definitely got to get
00:11:07.020
into it yeah but i came to talk about relationships you don't like so precisely the relationship you
00:11:12.060
happen to find yourself i didn't come to talk about my personal life but do as i say not as i do
00:11:19.020
so um you've been single for two months i mean are you guys still you guys are still hooking up
00:11:27.100
this is the thing you guys let me let me clarify something clarify you can clarify go ahead we have
00:11:31.580
businesses together okay yeah what we um he sells watches and i have clients so we have yes um you have
00:11:42.060
what kind you have clients yeah like i have friends you know clients that are interested in buying like
00:11:49.980
luxury stuff so you would refer your clients and friends to him he has the goods and i have the
00:11:56.940
clients so like okay i don't see how that it's hard when you have businesses with especially your like
00:12:02.860
your partner because if you wake up you have to also break up that part but i'm not letting i'm not
00:12:08.140
ready to let go of that part because it's a it's a substantial income right now so um yeah
00:12:17.740
i don't know how to describe it you get a commission from the sales of watches yeah pretty much okay and
00:12:24.540
that requires you to be in like in contact with him yeah like it doesn't mean that we're together but
00:12:31.100
it means that we have businesses together okay i see um so i have to talk to him do you guys still
00:12:36.540
when you when you say like oh i used to talking to him i thought you meant like romantically like
00:12:42.140
we're not talking romantically we're talking business there's nothing romantic going on not
00:12:47.820
for my end not from your end not from so he still wants to he wants to get back with you
00:12:54.140
that's up to him what do you mean that's up to him like yeah you should ask him um
00:12:58.700
well you would know you would know wouldn't you if you if he wants to get back with you i guess i
00:13:06.460
mean but i'm not i don't want to do you guys in the two month period that you've been single uh
00:13:14.060
are you guys like still hooking up no i value myself okay yeah and but you guys were and you were
00:13:22.220
together for two years yes we were okay uh isn't it typically advised to not once you break up with
00:13:29.980
somebody to not continue are you looking for somebody new i'm not looking right now it's it's
00:13:36.940
weird so what if a guy came in like in the healing process i'm not really who broke up with who i work
00:13:43.100
up with him why that's obvious what you mean it's obvious that you broke up with him why because he
00:13:49.260
already asked you he said what what happened you said is complicated and then you said well not on
00:13:54.780
my end which means you probably pulled the plug because if you didn't you'd probably be wanting to
00:13:59.820
get back with him i was not ready to talk about my relationships but um yeah like that's kind of
00:14:07.180
like my situation right now okay uh but i'm not looking for anybody so i'm not dating do you think in a
00:14:15.660
do you think that as a new potential relationship was blossoming do you think that might be an issue
00:14:22.860
if you were so financially involved with your i know i would have to come cut my ex off for you know
00:14:29.980
okay respecting the new person obviously gotta respect the new person of course god okay cool all
00:14:36.060
right we're not going to grill you too long on that uh all right uh any rebounds at all or no rebounds
00:14:41.980
meaning like getting back together no rebound like was there has there been any new guys like for a
00:14:48.060
date have you gone on any other dates not really okay all right she's still getting over it right
0.99
00:14:53.020
now all right what about you well i am in a relationship right now and then the next question
00:14:59.500
is what was the longest relationship yeah longest relationship you've been in well my longest
00:15:03.260
relationship was four years i was actually married ah okay married so yeah that was cool
00:15:10.300
divorced um technically no oh technically that's kind of expensive you know so we kind of just
00:15:17.820
separated just okay you know kind of stopped uh and you said how long is your current relationship
00:15:24.380
been going on i would say about three months three months gotcha and you said so you're 20 even you
00:15:33.980
were married for four years so you were married from i was in a relationship for four years we were
00:15:39.100
married when i got 18 and then i left when i was late 19 early 20 i see okay uh so you were married
00:15:47.740
for like a period of about a year yeah um when did that relationship end the four-year one i would say
00:15:57.980
once again about when i was late 19 early 20 no how long ago oh how long ago
00:16:03.500
probably like i'd say about a year ago a year ago okay gotcha and your current relationship that's been
00:16:13.420
going for three months yes why uh why did you get separated from your husband you see he in the
00:16:21.580
beginning turned out to be a really nice kind man he was very smart he had a lot of ambitions and then i
00:16:30.620
feel as though kind of after we ended up getting married he got really comfortable and kind of
00:16:35.980
started showing his true colors he started dabbling in drugs stealing my money so i made the ultimate
00:16:41.660
decision that in order for me to grow and to continue to survive and flourish i'm going to have to leave
00:16:45.980
my relationship wow he was stealing money from you yes what are we talking about here so we're talking um
00:16:53.580
tip money i would leave in the car from my job because at the time i was working at pyology which is a
00:16:59.180
custom pizza place and i was getting nightly tips he would steal my money use them on paraphernalia
00:17:06.780
and he would sometimes take my card use it on amazon stuff like that um every now and then he'd be like
00:17:13.580
oh hey can i borrow 20 bucks for a video game and i'd be like oh you know what sure and yeah a lot of
00:17:22.220
things that were obvious red flags that i wasn't able to see just because i was blinded by love
00:17:31.020
unfortunately so okay you what drugs was he taking um quite a few he was on fentanyl heroin and he did
00:17:43.100
dabble in a little bit of meth dabbled in the meth oh yes a meth dabbler oh yes a meth dabbler actually
00:17:49.980
the night i had left um i wasn't planning on leaving him i was still planning on working things
00:17:55.180
out i had went to go pick him up he was hanging out in a parking lot with his friends i didn't know
00:18:00.620
he had been dabbling in the meth um i was like okay let's go time to go home because uh he didn't
00:18:07.420
have a car at the time so i was the main driver and i was like let's go and he was like i don't
00:18:13.260
want to go yet i want to talk to my friends and i was like okay well here's the deal you're sitting
00:18:17.340
here high out of your mind doing absolutely nothing i just got off work i want to go home i want to go
00:18:22.620
to bed are you coming or not and i was he was like i don't want to stay here i was like okay then i'm
0.99
00:18:26.700
gonna go he's like if you leave me i'll kill you i looked at him i said you kill me then and i drove off
0.98
00:18:32.060
oh my god sounds like you mothered him a man child yeah a little bit shout out to the x5 podcast
0.99
00:18:40.620
guys don't forget guys level up for value um word i think i i'm understanding this yo guys check out
00:18:49.020
the x5 podcast on uh youtube they're our sponsor for today's episode thank you guys appreciate it
00:18:54.620
um wow okay so threatened to you know annihilate you there was drugs how old was he um he's actually
00:19:08.860
only a year older than me so right now he's 21 uh at the time i believe when i had left i was
00:19:16.060
19 so he was like 20 okay okay so uh he was great at the start yeah and then everything was good how
00:19:29.900
long what was the good period like a year less than a year more than a year i would say the good period
00:19:35.740
was about three years i mean every relationship yes prior to the marriage every relationship obviously
00:19:41.580
has its ups and downs so i i'm not gonna say it was good 100 of the time they're obviously a little
00:19:46.380
bit of stumbles but nothing that was majorly like okay i gotta run you know you hear that guys if you
00:19:52.700
get married your wife's gonna turn you into a uh thieving drug addict yeah you better run that's what
0.98
00:20:00.540
happened right after the marriage don't get married guys you'll turn into a thieving drug addict um
1.00
00:20:05.740
um okay uh that's a quite a doozy is your current relationship pretty solid oh yeah no my current
0.74
00:20:13.180
relationship is absolutely awesome he's a very nice guy when you're gonna start posting him on your
00:20:19.660
instagram i actually never really post anything on my instagram i'm not a very big social media person
00:20:28.060
i do like the podcast though so okay what about you um i'm single i've been single for
00:20:35.660
three days three days three days okay um tell us about that um well i just turned 21 about two
00:20:43.340
weeks ago on november 18th and he proposed to me on my birthday which was you know it was cool
00:20:49.340
everything was great um and then on sunday was our anniversary and brigitte she came over to my house
00:20:57.980
to just you know hang out with me spend some time with me and he had messaged her and was like hey
00:21:02.940
um i want to set up the apartment to make it look nice for our anniversary can you take shelby out
1.00
00:21:08.700
of the house for about two hours so she did we went shopping we got some boba just had some fun and then
00:21:14.300
i came back and all of his stuff was gone and he left a note that was saying basically um he just the
00:21:22.060
relationship wasn't working for him anymore and he was afraid of my retaliation which is kind of confusing
00:21:29.180
because we've never argued in the entire year if that makes sense like never so yeah it's just been
00:21:36.300
a few days wait hold on okay so you were engaged for like a month or november 18th so about two weeks
00:21:44.940
oh two weeks okay yeah and he left a note is there anything in your behavior aside from directly with him
00:21:53.420
that would have made him fearful of your retaliation um possibly my last relationship
00:22:00.620
but there was a reason for that he um tell us about that he had stolen my truck and six thousand dollars
00:22:08.300
and my cat and then went across the country to west virginia to be with a girl that he met on reddit
00:22:15.180
and so what was the retaliation that you um i kind of just uh went through his phone and all the photos
00:22:25.740
that she had sent to him i sent to her mom and grandma and dad and pretty much her whole family
00:22:34.220
did he stole your cat i mean once you steal a pet forget who cares about the six thousand you
0.99
00:22:39.260
you fuck with a a cat yeah it's it's war exactly it's war you get it okay i get it i get it and i
0.99
00:22:47.180
mean the truck and the six thousand that's important too yeah but okay don't hit like the cat though
1.00
00:22:52.540
cat was the starter fuck with somebody's pet oh man it's on i have his address i'll i'll get there
0.94
00:22:58.300
eventually uh uh okay so i mean i mean that seems like you and did you get the truck back the car the
0.98
00:23:11.020
cat no what um so basically when i called the cops about it because i lived down in san diego it was
00:23:17.740
carlsbad area at the time i called them and they said uh find the state that he's in oh hold on so
00:23:24.220
flow act 954 donated 100 what's up brian first time comment thank you thank you i've noticed these
00:23:33.180
simps on your chat don't respect women and talk insult them don't get me wrong i believe humbling
00:23:39.340
women today is important no reason for look you know the thing is with uh youtube chat twitch chat any
1.00
00:23:47.260
sort of uh anonymous uh internet chat room or anything like that i mean people are just going to be
0.91
00:23:53.180
uh you know toxic and talking trash they talk shit about me they call me simp and beta and all this
0.96
00:23:59.980
shit it is what it is like that's just the internet you just got to take uh you just got to accept that
1.00
00:24:05.660
and realize people are going to be shit talkers so yeah you know i wouldn't take any of that shit too
0.99
00:24:10.220
too seriously so yeah um wow okay wait so you didn't get any any of this stuff back though no yeah so i was
0.99
00:24:17.900
saying the um the cops just basically said find what state he was in so took me about six months
00:24:23.740
folex commissions donated 99 the dominican girl is leading her rex on so she can sell fake watches to her
0.95
00:24:31.820
cleontel don't know which one is worse oh and you have to send 99 to say that crap i guess i guess he did i guess he did um
0.59
00:24:41.900
um you should invest those 99 instead no actually it's it's very much welcome your patronage is
0.87
00:24:49.660
appreciated folex commissions thank you man appreciate it um so yeah oh holy what the kinky sprinkler donated
00:24:58.620
one hundred dollars my sprinkler goes like this
00:25:16.620
uh thank you kinky sprinkler appreciate it um so was the car also in his name or something no
00:25:22.860
it um no it was all in my name what about the cat was that like a shared cat no it was my cat
0.55
00:25:28.220
your cat my fucking cat how it yeah what so you went to the police locally yeah locally and they
0.92
00:25:35.980
said find where he is so it took me about six months and i went on people finder shout out to them people
0.99
00:25:42.300
finder okay and gave me pretty much all information ranging from him to like family members it was like
00:25:48.700
his second freaking cousin that he doesn't even know so that's pretty fun um but yeah they i gave him
0.98
00:25:54.300
uh cool rad bro donated 99 he took the cat wtf right yeah uh wow yeah it's super fucked up yeah
0.99
00:26:05.500
super fucked up okay did you like try to track him through social media at all um yeah but you know
0.95
00:26:12.380
he only really used instagram and reddit to be so besides like putting the wait but i don't know
0.99
00:26:21.020
um you you you went after the girl yeah and granted it sounds like she was complicit to some
0.83
00:26:29.820
degree in the infidelity there was a reason i was really really stupid in this relationship he cheated
00:26:36.220
on me multiple times and i was like you're gonna change i can help you change i'll forgive you this
00:26:42.300
girl was like talking to him a few times and i believe it was july when i found out about her the
00:26:48.460
first time and i was like dude he has a girlfriend grow the up you know be an adult be a be a girl's
00:26:54.220
girl help me out and just stop this um and then that stopped for about two months and then it went
0.96
00:26:59.660
back up again and i found out on my birthday last year my birthdays are kind of shitty damn sounds like
0.82
00:27:06.780
like some bad luck um so you've been single for three days yeah um did you cheat on on your fiancee no
00:27:19.260
god no because i feel like i mean he did he wrote you a handwritten note or was it a text message it
00:27:24.460
was a handwritten note and then he blocked me and brigitte on everything i feel like typically for a ghost
00:27:31.740
of that magnitude that's typically warranted if there's like cheating or some egregious betrayal
00:27:38.540
you think but he hasn't given even his parents an answer i've messaged his parents and they're
0.98
00:27:43.820
on my side they're like yeah he's being an asshole he needs to talk to you but does he though yeah i
0.97
00:27:49.580
deserve an answer well i mean he what did he do you have wait do you have the note i can tell you
0.98
00:27:55.260
exactly what it said sure um i don't have the note but i memorized it yeah you remember you committed
00:27:59.980
it to memory oh yeah so um it said uh i have been afraid of your retaliation and for my safety for
00:28:08.060
months now i will be taking my belongings and then he put in like the little kind of quotation things
00:28:14.140
saying that he wanted to take his sword some clothes like regular personal items and then his
00:28:19.020
bottle tab wait sword he's got a katana yeah nah katana but he likes swords he's a nerd he has
0.54
00:28:25.900
multiple more than one sword yeah he's a dnd nerd he sounds he sounds great not gonna lie he was
0.94
00:28:31.820
sounds like a legend he was yeah um but now he's just kind of a dick any any man with a sword i trust
0.97
00:28:39.260
immediately not anymore that's a trust if you have a sword as a man i trust you what about a sword as a
0.97
00:28:44.460
woman um no that's dangerous that could be dangerous yeah mike liable to use it on you
0.55
00:28:53.820
i don't know about that perhaps that you know we don't want an appendage removed right go ahead
00:28:58.300
you knew a sword guy too you dated the sword guy i was married to one that he was also yeah he was
00:29:02.940
a sword guy so i'd be careful man okay all right good to know maybe it's a can't trust anyone with a
00:29:07.340
sword sword guys are mixed mixed bag i guess um yeah um and then just basically saying like his bottle
00:29:13.820
tab collection he's been collecting that thing for years now but yeah i went through oh wait did
00:29:18.060
you finish reading the yeah like his bottle tab collection okay and then he just said i wish you
00:29:23.260
well i don't want to say his name but m from m um okay yeah that's it just it was like a paragraph
00:29:30.140
that was it just one little paragraph was it in cursive or was it he has really shitty handwriting
00:29:34.540
so it was his he typed it no he wrote it typewriter no oh no he wrote it with not not in cursive
00:29:40.540
though no with the pen ballpoint no i think it was like one of those uh crayola markers to be
00:29:46.220
honest crayola with a crayon like the brown one brown yeah it was brown ah okay i can i'm deciphering
00:30:01.020
i think that's a valid way to break up with somebody a valid way yeah that's that's nice he
00:30:06.460
could have ghosted you he did no he wrote you a note he said it's it's over what's the reason
00:30:12.860
though we had sex the morning of he kissed me goodbye said he was going to be back he went to
00:30:18.300
his friend's house and then boom flipped uh sex the morning of yeah everything was fine says he loved
00:30:23.660
me literally we were texting as he was at his friend's house and he was saying you know i love you
0.99
00:30:27.900
calling me pet names kitty like all that shit you know i think he was he was fearful of his life
0.98
00:30:35.500
good he was scared he should be well exactly that's how he should have well i mean now he should be
0.99
00:30:41.660
wait now he should be fearful fearful of his life because of the manner in which he broke up with you
00:30:48.140
no i wouldn't say fearful for his life he shouldn't be fearful for his life but karma's
0.85
00:30:52.700
definitely gonna get his ass and i'm gonna be behind it for sure how don't know yet gotta plan
0.84
00:31:00.780
it gotta wait for a few years though so they don't suspect it's me i mean you just you essentially
0.99
00:31:05.260
just snitched on yourself as to why you think literally the words that just came out of your mouth
00:31:10.860
are evidence of enough for why i'm not gonna remember this in 10 years 10 years i played the
00:31:17.660
long game buddy wait are you being facetious are you serious don't know yet i mean you you've
00:31:26.460
literally just self-snitched like he's totally justified based on what you've just based on the
00:31:32.060
words that have just come out of your mouth for for doing this like disappearing act it's not justified
00:31:39.340
because i've never acted this way towards him i've never shown my crazy side towards him genuinely
00:31:44.460
i have reason to doubt that that's understandable you've like you've just admitted that you're going
00:31:51.260
to he's going to get karma yeah it's going to be at your hand because he it he the note otherwise
00:31:58.300
sounded polite perhaps you take a grievance to the way in which he i should i should also add that we
00:32:04.780
were supposed to be like moving into a brand new apartment by the 15th of this month like it was
00:32:10.300
already set up lease was signed and everything and then and then he just goes to me like that's
0.98
00:32:16.220
fucked we need his side of the fucking story are you watching this dude i would love his side of the
0.99
00:32:22.940
story i would love that yo call him does anybody have a contact on him i know his number well don't
0.99
00:32:29.180
don't say it but like but he blocked you right so you can't can i can i use someone's phone and put it
00:32:33.500
in uh he has me blocked instagram is he on instagram he has me blocked on everything
00:32:39.660
we don't chat wait nick pull up the chat chat do we need his side of the story i'm not even sure
00:32:44.220
if he would i would love to know his side we need his side of the story please i've been waiting for
00:32:49.340
answers those last three days bro yo she is crazy well we can't call him because california wiretapping
0.98
00:32:56.940
laws but well no if he agrees to it if he agrees we can call him um doubtful what if we like youtube
00:33:06.620
not youtube um instagram video chat him does that still ordinate by the same law do you think he's
00:33:12.220
watching the show like is he do you think he's keeping tabs on what you're doing um yes uh because
00:33:17.820
i haven't been posting on my instagram or anything lately the last three days and then the second i posted
00:33:23.300
something this morning every single one of his friends saw my story first i was like that's
00:33:28.420
interesting yo his name starts with an m yes buddy i'm looking at my instagram requests at whatever
00:33:38.100
wait what if it's i'm like it's actually not okay hold on um yo send me a dm on instagram we'll do a
00:33:46.420
call-in with you we'll get your side of the story so you're not slandered we don't want you to be
00:33:51.220
slandered here so uh dm us at whatever maybe we can check in here i'm just going to write a note
00:33:56.500
phone call if i don't get a message maybe one of you guys can do let me ask you a question do you
00:34:01.940
think he would be down or do you think it's like very unlikely that he'd want to be honestly it's
00:34:07.380
very unlikely okay he's like he was a homeschooled catholic boy he's not
00:34:11.300
i think so the redhead on the corner legit reminds me of the older redheaded lady on episode
1.00
00:34:25.540
116. anyway cheers and grid one motorsports cheers cheers to vash the stampede trigon great
00:34:33.780
anime and cheers to our good friend grid one um i'm not sure what older redheaded girl he was
00:34:41.780
talking about oh we got a bastard donated 100 would any of the girls date brian slash jikwan
1.00
00:34:50.420
get in my belly i want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs i want my baby back
0.99
00:34:58.260
baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs chill yes baby back ribs that was good thank you fat
0.50
00:35:06.100
pastor appreciate it you had something i guess um oh well okay well we'll wrap up on that and would
00:35:12.020
any of the girls date us i guess okay when any no well well we'll get you can say no when i'm when we
00:35:20.740
get to the question my bad oh i just thought it might be like good to add about vm is that he was
00:35:29.060
actually messaging my boyfriend that day saying how excited he was for the anniversary and how he had
00:35:36.260
like this whole thing planned so for him to just do that out of nowhere and like lie to my boyfriend
00:35:44.580
for no reason because he was just at work chilling like plus i have a theory on this q and i want you to
00:35:50.580
weigh in on this real quick real quick the note didn't sound like him it it did not sound like the
00:35:55.940
way he normally talked i truly feel like someone was like saying he's a you got abducted no no but i
00:36:02.100
feel like his friends put something into his head and then he just started spiraling and then he was
0.72
00:36:06.580
like all right split decision let's do something stupid was he acting weird at all no like leading up
0.52
00:36:13.620
to it no change in no change like i said we were packing to move into our new apartment and the day
0.96
00:36:18.820
before i was like aren't you getting excited and he was like the more we pack the more excited i am
00:36:22.980
to like this is my first apartment by myself with you like he was mad excited this dude got abducted
00:36:32.660
i think he got abducted um wait but you no but you spoke to the parents correct yeah and he's he's talking
00:36:40.100
to the parents okay so he's not abducted no that's good safety check yeah q this is what i think it
00:36:47.940
could be i want your thoughts right he texted you like to he needed to get out he needed to get out
00:36:56.980
and he had to put on an act like everything was okay that's why he was texting you everything good
00:37:02.580
but he just had to dip he had to leave that's why he was putting on this act of everything's okay
00:37:09.700
but why would you put your mic down a little bit why would you propose two weeks before something
00:37:14.740
between the proposal did he get a ring was there a ring yeah something between did he get the ring
00:37:20.180
back no he is owed the ring back i will let you know he does legally you should give the ring back it
00:37:27.860
was a gift what wait what it was a gift no actually legally like you can look into this
00:37:35.060
when it comes to engagement rings if the wedding is called off legally you do have to return i mean
00:37:41.220
if he doesn't want it back that's fine keep it pawn it whatever but technically legally it's still
00:37:47.460
his property he did end up sending me the last month rent of this apartment that we're at and the
00:37:53.540
first month oh he sent it yeah he sent me the money and then um he was just basically saying
00:37:58.020
like it's a one-bedroom apartment it was supposed to be two but because i don't qualify by myself i
00:38:02.820
had to go back to oh but it is the the one you're going to move into is a one-bedroom apartment no the
00:38:07.860
one i am now is a one-bedroom the one i was going to move into was a two-bedroom okay but because yeah
00:38:13.300
he left i don't qualify on my own oh so that fell through yeah but um okay like the whole leasing
00:38:20.260
office they set something up well look i mean the reality of dating obviously you start people build
00:38:24.980
lives together when it comes to marriage or relationships you move in together it's
00:38:30.660
relationships invariably end so i mean it's kind of sucks that you know he's was he on the lease too
00:38:38.500
yeah i mean technically you both are now you guys can try to have the landlord mitigate his
00:38:44.740
damages and try to release it to somebody else but i mean he's equally uh
00:38:51.620
legally bound to the contract that you sat signed with your landlord so i mean it's shitty but i mean
00:38:56.980
this should happen um you had something yeah so something i was thinking it could be was you know there
00:39:04.420
was something called cold feet that used to happen a lot it still does yeah and it could have just been
00:39:11.460
that because if there was like truly no explanation he could just be cycling through his head into the
00:39:17.060
what if factor like i just proposed what if i'm not good enough what if i can't support her what if i
00:39:22.180
can't do this what if i can't do that and i feel like it's kind of like human nature to think that
00:39:26.500
but it's like it depends on if like you solve it or if you just stay in that mindset and then you
00:39:32.900
eventually your feet are so cold that you just run away is his name matthew no okay somebody somebody
00:39:39.620
sent me a dm he's like oh no okay it's not not matthew um another thing is when we first started
00:39:46.260
dating i was like in a really low place in my life i i didn't even have like a car or a license the only
00:39:52.340
thing i had to my name was my apartment um but throughout this year i've i've grown so much like
00:39:58.500
i was making 15 an hour last december and now i'm making 24 um i'm making more than what he made i'm
00:40:04.820
getting more hours than him and he even said in the beginning of our relationship he was like i
00:40:09.300
want you to get your license so you can have more freedom and such but i feel like when you do that
00:40:14.100
you're not going to need me as much anymore so i feel like the fact that i haven't been needing him
00:40:18.900
is also a big reason he's kind of just like well she doesn't need me to take care of her and no baby
00:40:25.380
her anymore so word i'm i'm of the personal view like i don't think uh i don't know
00:40:36.500
you're not nobody's owed closure i disagree with that especially if if he whether whether it's valid
00:40:44.180
or not if he feels like he has safety concerns then that's totally valid women do that all the
1.00
00:40:50.500
fucking time you will block dudes you will ghost them you'll do whatever if you feel there's any
0.97
00:40:55.300
safety concerns whether valid or imagined he believes that there's some safety can safety
0.99
00:41:00.820
issue related to you ergo it's i think what he did is totally valid
00:41:07.060
women do that all the time but y'all surprised if a guy does it to you
1.00
00:41:12.900
wait can i speak what okay okay so i feel like it kind of goes both ways i feel as though
00:41:20.260
both parties should offer each other closure like in any situation just because if we're not
00:41:25.060
communicating with each other then what are we you know like we have the verbal communications and we
00:41:31.300
have the brain to be able to verbalize hey this is how i feel it's not working out let's go our
00:41:35.620
separate ways so both parties are on the same page and are able to move on and further grow from the
00:41:40.900
situation rather than just sitting there and wondering what did i do what did i do it's not
00:41:45.460
right for a woman to do it and i think it's also not right for a man to do it i think neither party
00:41:51.140
should just be like oh okay i'm not going to give you any reason because he gave her a reason right
00:41:56.260
no there was no he told you though it was ending do you have any idea what could have motivated it
00:42:04.260
i truly based on his letter i have absolutely no idea because something in that two weeks something
00:42:08.740
in that two weeks he was exposed to that made him feel differently uh i when i read the letter like i
00:42:13.300
came i came right home because i have a video camera and it kept going off and i was like what
0.55
00:42:17.700
are they doing so i looked at it and i saw that he was like taking shit out of the house and by the
0.80
00:42:22.500
time i saw it i was like well he's already gone so i went back to my house and i read the note
00:42:27.300
and it didn't show like anything that he wanted to leave um i went over to his friend's house right
00:42:34.580
after and i was like what what happened what were you guys saying to them they were like oh we're not
00:42:39.300
we're not going to talk to him about it you know that's up to him to talk to you i was like i don't
00:42:44.260
know this is shady this is weird because like he him and i were very communicative we talked about
00:42:49.940
our feelings like i said we never argued never raised our voice which is weird because i'm used
00:42:54.660
to fighting in a relationship so like this entire year of no fighting it's been nice but it's definitely
00:43:00.260
different that's why i'm like why didn't we talk about this if you just told me you wanted to leave
00:43:05.700
that's fine you can leave but let me add a caveat to the whole no closure thing so i mean obviously
00:43:12.260
you can determine in your your own relationships whether it's uh warranted or not but as somebody
00:43:20.500
who's had the experience of a girl demanding closure demanding talk and i've actually provided to some
00:43:26.980
degree some explanation why i no longer wanted to see her she would use the closure conversation as
0.95
00:43:33.620
pretext to attempt to uh revive the relationship which i've already decided i want to be done with
00:43:43.940
so if she like it's it goes beyond closure to the point of and this was with a woman granted who like
00:43:50.420
refused to take no as an answer like would so it's just if we can have a healthy closure conversation i
00:44:00.500
would be open to it but if it's going to be used as some uh two hour long cry session no no yeah i'm
00:44:09.380
not i'm not doing that i agree with that that's pointless and it's not going to solve anything i
00:44:12.420
even um because like i said he blocked me on everything except email so i just ended up emailing
00:44:18.420
him and i was like so the things you said you were going to take you didn't like all of your stuff is
00:44:23.780
still in my apartment so i would like to get it back to you i would like to get my things and like i have
00:44:28.740
no hope of getting back together i just want to move on from this and you know grow from it so
00:44:33.540
you want he took some of your things or like he had it in his car and like at his parents house and
00:44:38.820
things like that okay he didn't take why do you want to get revenge on him though is it because he
00:44:42.900
broke up with you not so much that i want revenge it's just that's what it sounded like i want karma
00:44:48.260
to get back at him that sounds like revenge there's more than one way to say something but um
00:44:53.540
um well you said you want revenge is more like if i'm intentionally doing it but you that's what
00:45:01.860
you said you're like i hope karma gets him and i will be and i will be the one that in enacts said
00:45:08.100
karma i'm not going to enact said karma but i'm going to be watching okay you're walking back what
00:45:12.900
your your previous statement here my apologies i want to be watching when it happens and i want
00:45:18.740
to have the full eating popcorn type so what do you want his karma to be i want i don't know yet
00:45:27.060
maybe him get into a relationship and just have the same happen okay all right i mean your previous
00:45:34.500
statement was it seemed pretty clear that you wanted to be the uh the one yeah i should have
00:45:41.780
rephrased that i don't want to cause the karma but i want to watch it i think that's what you actually
00:45:47.060
mean though no but now that you realize that's not a good look you're okay hold on let me try to
00:45:52.980
put a better uh a better face on this like i said i know i'm crazy so if i wanted to do some
0.74
00:46:00.180
shit like that i feel like i would have done it by now i mean it's only been three days there that's
0.91
00:46:04.740
exactly you said 10 years from now you're gonna be still scheming and be thinking okay
1.00
00:46:13.300
abby's roast beef donated 100 brian what's with you liking women with big poo says are you mental
0.99
00:46:23.300
no i'm not i'm not mental listen women have genitalia preferences women like big peens
1.00
00:46:30.260
i happen to like large labia i have a i have a non-profit organization big labia matter blm
1.00
00:46:37.700
um hashtag blm um you know right you guys some of you some of y'all like big dicks i like hell
1.00
00:46:46.260
yeah big pussy lips what's up go off go off that's right that's right it's it's unfortunate that women
1.00
00:46:53.860
get some women will get shamed if they do have large labia and i'm a i'm a defender i'm the shield
1.00
00:47:00.660
guard well i mean it's unfortunate when men get made fun of if they have that's right it is yeah
00:47:06.980
it's very i don't think we should be shaming anybody for the way they were born agreed anybody
00:47:13.460
so okay good talk oh okay let's go um we need to get through the single thing then we'll ask the
00:47:18.500
other question that came in this tts by the way guys um the tts trigger is now boosted to 200 and up
00:47:25.060
we just added 100 i let it go for probably like another 45 instead of 30 minutes so tts is going
00:47:31.060
to be 200 and up from here on now um relationship status i'm single um i've been single since january
00:47:41.860
but the first like four months i was trying to be celibate well i was celibate for the first four months
00:47:49.300
and then single since january where you were trying to be celibate you were celibate for the first four
00:47:54.580
months yeah okay um and then your celibacy failed it sounds like i mean it didn't fail but i was just
00:48:02.980
like okay i think oh he got it one motorsports donated 100 obviously future lorraine bobbit does
00:48:10.500
not get that her crazy is obvious sex morning of is a w for the dude and obviously he called to make
00:48:16.900
sure you were not coming home guy barely made it out alive uh cheers to grid one motorsports do you want
1.00
00:48:24.260
to respond to grid one motorsports um who the fuck is lorraine bobbit oh lorraine bobbit do you know
0.98
00:48:31.700
this no this was like grid was it in the 80s or the 90s in any case this woman was married to a man
0.96
00:48:38.740
it was this is pre-internet basically major news story she chopped off his peen so i guess related to
00:48:48.420
the sword thing i guess chopped off chopped it off chopped off the peen and it went it was crazy all
00:48:55.060
over the news and then i guess he got it surgically reattached and started doing adult films the husband
00:49:04.580
go him good for him but uh it was absolutely despicable in that people thought it was funny
00:49:12.820
that he got his peen removed decap decap not decapitated uh severed i don't think people would
0.93
00:49:21.060
have thought it was so funny if some dude like chopped some titties off or something i don't know
0.98
00:49:25.620
chop chop the labia i guess chop the clit i don't know okay whatever um did you want to respond to grid
0.98
00:49:31.540
one motorsports yeah uh he said um that i didn't know that my crazy is showing i literally just said i was
00:49:38.500
crazy like listen to what i'm saying um yeah and him barely making it out of life like literally like
00:49:47.540
i said we had no arguments everything was fine we never fought never put our hands on each other
00:49:54.100
never raised our voice at each other we always had very open communication um so this just being
00:50:00.180
completely out of the blue i really don't think there was anything for him to be scared for his life
00:50:05.860
it doesn't make any sense okay um so coming back to you um you've been single since january but you
00:50:14.820
january yeah and my relationship was two years longest relationship two years did you answer longest
00:50:21.220
relationship two and a half years 2.5 okay uh you were trying to be celibate well i mean i didn't have
00:50:29.700
like a deadline i just was happy that i made to four months four months i just took that time
00:50:35.700
to like heal i did therapy i did self-work i detox i stopped drinking um i recently just did that too i
00:50:43.540
stopped drinking for um 34 days and i work at a bar so i mean it sounds like like oh 34 days but yeah
00:51:01.060
what's going on recently though anything anything i'm just being single yeah no i'm just dating around
00:51:08.740
are you celibate or not no okay i don't really recommend that to be celibate because i feel like
00:51:16.420
what do you recommend well yeah like you know do the self-work but like i just think the celibacy thing
00:51:22.740
like right when i got out of celibacy like i feel like i try to like make up for those four months i just
00:51:28.740
kind of went like crazy when you say you went crazy what do you mean like i just feel like i
00:51:33.700
was just like pulling out all these like random stunts that i've never done stunning things that
0.90
00:51:37.460
i've never done like what do you mean like just trying to pull out like all these crazy ass moves
0.78
00:51:48.180
like i don't know i just like stunts what you're like jumping cars and
0.99
00:51:52.100
shit what you what do you mean no during sex during sex like what um i've never done it until
0.99
00:52:00.420
recently you're doing like reverse cowgirl and you kind of have to be a little flexible and then lean
1.00
00:52:06.340
forward and like just start sucking his toes while you're in reverse cowgirl huh cool okay there's that um
0.99
00:52:15.380
that's it that's the freakiest shit ever i mean it sounds like a typical friday i mean no i mean i
1.00
00:52:25.060
just got out of celibacy though wait what this was yesterday you did this oh no oh okay okay no no
0.99
00:52:31.780
okay um but you said you went crazy so like were you just dating multiple dudes is that what you're
00:52:36.980
talking about yeah and i just feel like i was like super horny all the time because of the celibacy yeah okay
00:52:43.380
so when you say you went crazy like what were you dating like five dudes at the same time what are
00:52:49.140
we talking no not at the same time no i was just like going on dates a lot how what okay define a
00:52:55.780
lot what do you mean like one day out of i don't know maybe every single day days
00:53:04.660
so twice a week basically maybe yeah okay different dudes yeah would you smash not all of them no what
00:53:12.500
was like the smash success rate like 50 percent maybe a little less like 40 okay okay sweet um
00:53:24.020
and then are you current you're is there any guy in the picture right now not seriously no not
00:53:29.140
seriously no so there's some there's like a friends with benefits or sneaky link currently
00:53:33.940
no no no not so you're celibate i don't want to label it as this i guess okay all right all right
00:53:43.620
okay uh what about you nicole currently i'm single and my longest relationship was about a year how long
00:53:51.060
have you been single for two years probably two years okay nothing's changed really since your last
00:53:56.260
well appearance it changed a little bit in the sense where i was like celibate at that time but
00:54:04.100
then i wasn't like celibate for a little bit but then i regret that and looking back i should have just
00:54:10.420
stayed celibate celibate and i'm kind of like what ella's on where i'd rather be alone than be disrespected
00:54:17.380
and i honestly think as a woman it's like sex is very different for us like we
00:54:22.340
when we have sex with a man like we have certain hormones that we release that actually brings us
0.69
00:54:27.620
closer to the man and we get attachment and men it doesn't really operate the same way a lot of the
00:54:34.260
time especially if you're just forming an emotional bond so that's kind of what i'm on and i'm not
00:54:40.740
really looking for something right now i'd rather just focus on my goals and put my energy towards that
00:54:47.700
because yeah and so you said you're currently celibate yes how long have you been celibate
00:54:56.740
for like a month because i recently like hold on okay no because i recently i was just like
00:55:02.180
kind of seeing one person okay doesn't mean i wasn't talking or like open to other people
00:55:08.420
but i was seeing one person kind of seriously but kind of seriously what does that mean
00:55:13.300
just like pretty often how often it varied but like once or twice a week three times a week no
00:55:20.900
less less yeah once a week but they were kind of far away so yeah it was long distance kind of
00:55:26.100
serious kind of yeah but you weren't you were in a long distance situationship low-key yeah exactly why
00:55:32.660
would you be long distance with somebody who's not your boyfriend okay um it wasn't like long distance
00:55:38.500
but it was just someone i had like great interest in that happened to be far away where none of your
00:55:45.700
business how far away like two hours away okay los angeles no okay uh yeah it could be it can't be
00:55:58.660
you and is that done that's over yes you broke up with him he broke up with you well we weren't
00:56:08.260
together so but i kind of just stopped talking to him i thought you had really strong feelings for him
00:56:15.700
yes but then i realized that he wasn't who i thought he was because i feel like us women do
00:56:20.580
this often where we like think of someone's potential or fantasize about who they could be
00:56:25.060
to whereby we get kind of delusional and we think like i'm trying to attract a high value
00:56:30.500
man and like the second i saw that he wasn't like a high value man i have no reason to be like
00:56:38.260
talking to someone that isn't when i'm like a high value woman and going towards that and trying to
00:56:44.260
attract that how long it took you to um determine that he was not a high value man
00:56:49.700
probably just like four to six months or something i didn't see him that long okay
00:56:57.780
uh not even the potential to be though you said potential potential like his potential yeah like
00:57:03.940
was he ambitious he definitely has the potential and he definitely is very knowledgeable about what
00:57:09.060
it takes to be the potential but i think us women and men mature at different rates and we also
00:57:16.500
heal differently because women we can sit down a lot of us are going to be more open about our
00:57:21.140
emotions and past experiences and learn from each other so we heal at a faster rate and we're able to
00:57:28.180
move on and see the past is kind of lessons i feel like men struggle more and they kind of start wanting
00:57:38.100
to hurt women or unintentionally or intentionally because of the pain they felt from other women and it
00:57:45.620
takes them into good like it'll take them into other connections even if like the girl is like
0.96
00:57:53.060
right just because they haven't like healed themselves but anyways what i'm trying to say
00:57:57.300
is i think he was more immature than i thought he was how so what about him was immature
00:58:05.620
i don't want to like call him out hopefully he's okay here i i think i have a good a good hunch he was
00:58:10.740
seeing other women he wasn't loyal to you okay but it also sounded like it's not like i wasn't seeing
00:58:18.260
other people just not as seriously but it wasn't when you okay basically my friend sent me his tinder
00:58:24.660
and that gave me the ick wait hold on him having did you have any dating apps at this time no i've
00:58:30.980
never had dating but you said regardless okay but you said that you were seeing other people too
00:58:36.900
yes but not seriously like i wasn't were you sleeping with them no then why hold on
00:58:43.940
you're saying during the entire period of time you were seeing him you didn't sleep with anybody else
00:58:48.340
yeah no so why would you be seeing other people well just to be like open to other people not put all
00:58:56.180
your eggs into one basket we're not exclude we weren't exclusive we weren't together i'm still open to
00:59:02.180
but so it's an ick for him to have tinder and to be exploring his options and to be seeing other
00:59:08.340
women but if you're doing the exact same thing that's okay it's not that he was exploring his
00:59:15.060
options and other women that throws me off it just that it was on tinder because i feel like
00:59:19.860
a lot of us know that those dating apps especially tinder for like men they're really like sleeping
00:59:24.980
around kind of with whoever i mean what would you what do you guys think is your opinion i feel like
00:59:30.100
some it's a hookup app definitely it's a hookup app but i mean uh but the bottom line is uh you
00:59:37.540
wasn't serious y'all wasn't serious and you said and you saying you regret you said you regret so
00:59:43.060
i'm guessing y'all slept together yes okay so the fact that y'all slept together would it be
00:59:47.380
far-fetched for me to assume that you sleeping with him actually gave you more feelings for him and you
00:59:53.780
didn't like the fact that he was on tinder because the feelings you had for him were developing past
00:59:57.780
a casual like getting to know you type ordeal okay so basically in her head that eventually
01:00:03.860
she caught feelings and him being on tinder um translated to him not basically feeling the same
01:00:10.580
way yeah it's not exactly just about that i guess i kind of viewed it as i'm someone who's so careful
01:00:16.820
about careful about who i hook up with and establish a serious connection with that why would i be like
01:00:23.700
giving all my energy and all of that to someone who would give that to like anyone on a dating app
01:00:30.260
just for like a quick night you weren't giving him you weren't giving him all your energy you
01:00:34.180
were dating other men i wasn't dating other men like seriously how do you know that he was just on
01:00:40.820
the app for a quick night you said you were like talking to other people he could have been on the
01:00:44.740
app just to talk to other people as well that's a fair point true and then you were also saying
01:00:50.980
like not doing it safely like he could still be on a dating app and hooking up with people but still
01:00:55.780
doing it safely so you cut him off because you've seen him on tinder well it was other things too
01:01:03.220
okay because she said it gave her it which means it was just a visceral response to seeing him on
01:01:07.780
tinder i guess i just have very set standards in my head and if something doesn't mean it
01:01:14.580
i don't mind to leave like i'd rather be alone and like respect myself and not settle if that makes
01:01:21.140
sense what are the what are those well i think that one of the greatest things a man can have is
01:01:28.260
self-control and i can't really picture a man like this vision that i have of a high value man
01:01:35.940
using tinder for attention or talking to other people i feel like a high value man like honors
01:01:42.180
and cherishes connections that he meets in like person like more tangible ones if that makes sense
01:01:49.140
can i ask you a question yes did you want it to be more serious like where were you like you were
01:01:58.260
looking for a serious relationship with this man not necessarily i even told him i was like i can
01:02:05.060
see myself being with you like in a serious relationship i was super communicative and
01:02:09.780
straight up i was just like it's kind of a matter of time i was like i feel like i don't know you that
01:02:15.460
well i want to just experience more time with you and assess okay like if we could be together but i was
01:02:20.660
super open about like i can like envision us be to get being together because we would spend like
01:02:26.020
a good amount of time together and connect on a good level so yeah what are you thinking brian
01:02:34.900
well you said he's not he wasn't a high value man but you could you consider yourself a high value woman
01:02:41.300
uh but i mean how quick you said you were seeing him for like four to six months
01:02:48.980
uh how quickly into the relationship did you guys hook up or not the relationship how soon did you
01:02:54.660
hook up first night second night so basically he is a friend i've had for like four years so we
01:03:00.980
already knew each other very well um but then like the first night when we were alone i should have told
01:03:07.140
him how i felt about him because i really liked his like characteristics and his personality and we
01:03:14.740
had gone out and then i hooked up with him the first night it was just the two of us but i already
01:03:20.660
like felt that way and like he was someone very intriguing to me months before that what what did
01:03:26.340
you tell him like how did you because you guys were friends before so how did you broach this hey by
01:03:32.260
the way i have feelings for you i like you how did you say it i should have was like i have to be
01:03:37.780
honest with you part of me sees you as a friend but part of me wants more i'm attracted to you in an
0.98
01:03:43.300
intellectual manner like that's like intellectual man yes like i'm like is the guy like a fucking
0.98
01:03:50.020
physicist what are we talking about no not not like that don't take it so literally okay my bad when
0.90
01:03:55.940
someone just like opens up your mind you know what i mean like your conversations are like
01:04:01.300
really good they have a lot of value to like add to your life like lessons that they could teach
01:04:06.020
you and like you can teach them a lot like i cherish that a lot in all my kinds of like relationships
01:04:11.300
like friendships or like romantic so i meant it in that sense and i was just super open and honest
01:04:17.860
about that so what was his response when you dropped this well he said that he feels like the same way
01:04:24.820
but the i can't really speak about these details actually because like because why this can't reach
01:04:34.020
the world like the reason why like the connection oh so probably couldn't have worked out the connection
01:04:42.180
couldn't have worked out is there like a family feud or something a vendetta something it has to do
01:04:46.660
with like like what it's not like a it's not serious like a family vendetta but it's just like more like
01:04:56.500
is it's related to your family somewhat no no no like how your parents might view him no not at
01:05:06.500
all nothing nothing political nothing family just other people in like the circle
01:05:12.980
oh he fucks like three of your friends no no no then what is it it's not bro nobody watches the
0.89
01:05:19.940
podcast there's like three people watching that cap you literally have like four million subscribers on
0.98
01:05:25.220
youtube yeah but like that's social media like this is real nowadays like wait give us a hint give us a
01:05:33.300
hint like what's it um there's just things in the past that were stopping us from like pursuing the
01:05:40.420
connection he was dating a chick no no he was gay no had a history of abuse no nothing like that you
01:05:51.700
you were dating his homie courtney do you think i should just kind of say it or do courtney courtney
0.71
01:06:00.020
i mean give them a little bit more how can i do that do it
01:06:05.620
how can i do that and not say too much do it yes you can just do it i mean yolo well basically
01:06:16.900
there was people that we were involved with romantically in the past that probably wouldn't
01:06:21.540
have been happy if they found out we had a connection what why does that matter yeah
01:06:29.060
okay guys i can't say anymore wait there are people that each of you were romantically
01:06:38.900
so is it like a thing where he was dating somebody's ex and you were dating somebody's
01:06:47.220
y'all were interconnected everybody was y'all was like in this circle friend not like one of those incest
01:06:52.500
friend groups from high school like no like not like that it was like nick you've got experience
01:06:58.420
from that no i just thought we were supposed to celebrate oh oh okay i thought you were saying that
01:07:04.740
you had a something in high school like okay i apologize nick they're related are you guys related
01:07:10.420
no oh my god that's what it is no that's what it is did he get like one of your friends pregnant
01:07:17.060
no okay it's just she's not gonna it's just stuff i can't really speak on the same way like ella
01:07:22.980
couldn't really but what i will say is that i'm very grateful for any experience and i feel like
01:07:28.980
anyone should be and like even with your ex now or whatever sometimes you don't even deserve closure
01:07:36.820
sometimes the connection just isn't meant to be and we're so young and sometimes it just like take what
01:07:41.460
they taught you i'm sure you taught them some stuff and just take that wisdom into your next
01:07:46.740
relationship and spread it to other people like this right here and not everything has to be so
01:07:51.620
negative and i'm grateful for him he's still someone that i value it's interesting though because you
01:07:57.060
you sound like kind of we're stepping away from this particular convo but you're upset that he was like
01:08:03.860
on tinder and it wasn't he was maybe seeing other women but you were seeing other guys but you never
01:08:10.020
it sounded like you had said hey uh i could see myself being serious with you down the road
01:08:19.780
but it almost sounds like you didn't want to close things off did you at any point want things to be
01:08:27.860
closed no like it's something i envisioned in like the future but just because you knew this guy for four
01:08:34.500
years and you liked him like what this is okay well she's young she's 20. yeah that's a perfect time
01:08:41.780
to get life to determine no you don't have your life you don't have your whole life girl yeah
01:08:47.700
like you don't see what you like you know don't date around yeah don't date multiple men at the same time
01:08:54.980
no don't date multiple men yes at the same time at the same time that is having sex don't do that
0.81
01:09:00.180
of course uh can i say sex yeah you can say sex okay i mean honestly i just think about
01:09:05.220
this one tiktoker i don't know his name but he just talks about how like back in the day
01:09:11.300
men used to be like the chasers and the pursuers so much more like you had multiple men knocking on
01:09:17.220
one woman's like door and she could pick and choose and like her and her family could pick and choose
1.00
01:09:21.540
doesn't mean she was seeing them seriously but i don't know i feel like the ball is more like
01:09:27.540
so in like the woman's court and like the women should be pursued if that makes sense and i don't
01:09:33.700
see anything wrong with women seeing many men as long as she's very clear about her intentions and
01:09:40.340
that she's doing that do you agree i mean that's how it used to be there was like well i mean there's
01:09:45.460
a couple things so first off i don't know if tiktok is a if it's that if that's a the best source for
01:09:51.940
historical dating information but um oh you have something and i'll respond good so this is maybe a
01:10:00.660
little off topic but like when we're looking at when we're looking at science and we're going way
01:10:05.780
back in the day like way back at the beginning of human evolution um there was actually studies that
01:10:10.980
found that the human species as a whole was not scientifically meant to be monogamous right so
01:10:18.340
there's scientific evidence that supports the reason why like females are able to orgasm multiple
1.00
01:10:23.300
times is because they were supposed to go with multiple partners and literally the shape yeah no
0.99
01:10:28.500
oh my god fuck and the shape of the man's like head is literally shaped like that to scoop out
0.99
01:10:37.220
competitors right because just like in the race of which sperm is going to be able to fertilize
0.99
01:10:44.180
the egg it was the same thing with male competitors back in the day in the beginning of evolution
01:10:49.140
right so whoever had the strongest sperm whoever had the strongest genetics
1.00
01:10:52.820
right whoever's genes were going to be able to survive longer and benefit the human race more
01:10:58.740
were the ones that were actually able to meet the egg and fertilize but nowadays we have society
01:11:04.100
we have civilization we have all these other things and all these other standards that monogamy
01:11:08.580
just kind of become a part of it right which there's nothing wrong i mean humans in general
01:11:14.420
are a very social species and we do need to be around each other you take someone you put them in
01:11:19.460
solitary confinement you don't let them see anyone they're going to go crazy they're going to lose
01:11:23.540
their minds and they're just not going to know how to socialize with anyone right and it's kind of
01:11:28.820
that's kind of how we people are and we have it in our heads now that we need to find someone we
01:11:33.140
need to do this we need to do this and we just need to settle down and everything but when our
01:11:38.100
reality when you're looking for a relationship instead of looking for oh is this a high value
01:11:42.900
man is this this is this this think of is this person going to support me is this person going to
01:11:47.380
stand by me and i'm going to be able to financially emotionally and just in general grow with this
01:11:55.140
person to raise kids to start a future to stay steady in life instead of looking at all these things
01:12:00.500
oh he had one tinder account think okay later down the line is that tinder account going to stay
01:12:05.540
because like she said we are young and things do happen and there is time to change and fix things
01:12:10.900
and grow in a relationship oh can i can i can i say something in response to what you just said yes
01:12:15.140
um the first thing is which one of the sexes get pregnant the female the female okay so according
0.95
01:12:22.020
to sexual selection theory uh you you're not quite wrong but you're not accurate in what you just
01:12:27.700
described and i'm gonna tell you why sexual selection theory the sex that has the babies
01:12:34.180
they have more paternal investment parental investment yes so it's not the men so it's
01:12:38.180
maternal investment right sperm competition is what you're referring to yes but women didn't
1.00
01:12:43.780
necessarily select multiple men to sleep with the further back you go the more animalistic we were
01:12:49.860
right so that means men went on to women like i can't say the word yeah but that was much
01:12:57.220
more of a natural occurrence in the natural world the further back you go and the more primitive humans
01:13:01.780
were so like our test these size is it speaks to sperm competition but the woman has always been more
1.00
01:13:08.180
selective than the man and the woman has evolved to select the best mate that she sees for her so
0.97
01:13:13.620
that's why women typically get attached to one man most women do not date multiple men at a time
01:13:19.140
even with her advice saying i recommend you date multiple men i don't even have to say anything against
01:13:24.500
that because that's not naturally the route that women are going to take if multiple men come at a
1.00
01:13:28.980
woman a woman is going to develop feelings for one man and naturally cut the rest of the men off
1.00
01:13:33.220
naturally for so even so even if even if you give the advice like date multiple women or date multiple
01:13:38.420
men she's not going to do it even if you even if you tell her you should this could be effective
01:13:42.820
this could help you try to get the dating outcomes that you want she's still going to naturally
1.00
01:13:46.260
release endorphins hormones that's specific to one man especially if they have sex which speaks to her
01:13:51.460
case grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars do not listen to the chick that cannot
0.99
01:13:57.300
keep a man and has never been married or to the fake science girl do not date around men value
0.75
01:14:04.020
purity and beauty so be that men are hunters be prey okay so yeah so that's that's what i'm saying so
01:14:11.940
i get what you're saying we aren't naturally monogamous but women are more monogamous than men men
01:14:16.580
men are more polygamous than women and you see that in our physiology our anatomical features so
1.00
01:14:22.420
that's what i'm saying that's what i'm explaining so you weren't exactly wrong about the monogamy part
01:14:26.980
but women are more monogamous than men and women will tend to get with one man over multiple men they
0.98
01:14:31.620
don't really want to date multiple men at one time and naturally the behaviors that they exhibit is going
01:14:37.380
to be exclusive to one man once she finds a man that she likes yeah and i'm not saying like sleep around
0.53
01:14:42.900
like if you want to that's fine it's not like something i'm like specifically saying i'm just
01:14:46.580
saying that that like these um roots that we have may be embedded into us because it is what started
01:14:54.900
our whole species right so we could still have these feelings and that could be why sometimes things
01:15:02.020
happen you know what i'm saying i understand what you're saying oh so you were talking about how to
01:15:07.380
look more into like can a man support me can i grow with a man but those things i kind of encompass
01:15:12.820
within like a high value man you know what i mean those are the kind of questions that come when
01:15:17.620
you think of what is a high value man i feel like and i guess i kind of just saw i'm not saying he
01:15:24.100
can't become one or someone like that can't become one i just feel like one of the traits a high value
01:15:29.780
man has or like a partner i'm trying to attract is self-control and i don't really see that as self-control
01:15:35.460
or okay maturity can i can i can i uh hint on that too um i'm really curious when women say
1.00
01:15:41.860
self-control as a man men typically when men become high value they may have came from a position where
01:15:48.820
they weren't desirable so if a man becomes desirable he now has women that are approaching him
01:15:54.420
women being around him that he never would have gotten so it's kind of unrealistic to expect a man to
01:15:59.940
just know how to have sexual discipline if he wasn't exposed to beautiful women he didn't attract
0.65
01:16:06.020
beautiful women at some point in his life so most men when they become high value you can look at you
01:16:10.180
can look at entertainers you can look at athletes you can look at any guys higher on the socioeconomic
0.99
01:16:14.900
ladder when they get women around them they typically are going to fuck a lot of those women around them
1.00
01:16:19.940
so tender just makes it easier for guys to exercise that option especially if he's a desirable guy on a
0.99
01:16:25.460
dating app so i when women say that i'm like that's not realistic to expect a man to have
01:16:31.460
dick discipline especially if he never had to learn it that's what i'm saying that's a very
01:16:37.620
interesting point yeah thank you that makes sense
01:16:43.620
who is next another thing though about like the tinder profile is that his bio for the tinder profile was
01:16:50.020
need a plus one in like days before my friend sent me that he took me as a plus one to like a bar and
01:16:57.620
with his friends so then i was kind of like i don't want to be one of the other plus ones i can't really
01:17:03.140
assess how serious he was about that bio or if he's using the app to seek out girls to bring as a plus one
01:17:09.220
to events to bring around his friends but i kind of saw as that's kind of embarrassing and pathetic for
01:17:14.900
me i don't want to be like one of the many girls that he brings as a plus one around his friends
01:17:19.540
like i think that's special and like important when someone introduces you to their friends and i kind
01:17:24.660
of just didn't like that you know i don't want to be just one of those other ones like seen as a side
01:17:30.340
bitch exactly did you talk to him about it did you have a conversation once he once you seen that and
1.00
01:17:34.980
it gave you the egg i kind of i just sent it to him because oh so this is another thing
0.96
01:17:39.060
is that the first picture on his tinder profile was in my old apartment so i was kind of just like
01:17:48.420
wow like are you like that just kind of like rude all of that or i don't know i just i just want to
01:17:53.460
be fully respected i think uh you might be looking too much into that i feel like girls look way more
0.76
01:17:59.140
into that than guys do because i guarantee he just saw the photo and he was like damn i look good and
01:18:03.140
then you're seeing that and you're looking all into it and you're like that's in my apartment i was just
01:18:06.660
like looking at all of it and him lying about his age on the profile and him saying need a plus one
01:18:11.860
when i was just brought as a plus one and it being in like my old apartment i think i just didn't want
0.90
01:18:19.300
to keep talking to him after that i don't know okay but i think feel like when people are in uh say
01:18:25.620
like a man and a woman are just like in like the talking stage of getting into a relationship a lot of
01:18:32.580
women will kind of treat it already like it's a relationship even though it's not so i also did
0.71
01:18:37.380
want to ask like were you guys treating the i guess talking stage or situation ship like what you guys
01:18:43.060
had like the same equally the same like did you guys respect each other's um standards and fit
01:18:50.740
those standards and everything yeah i guess we didn't really talk about our standards through
01:18:57.220
the talking stage because we weren't talking seriously for that long and as far as we
01:19:03.940
talked about it it was kind of like we can see ourselves being together just not right now and
01:19:09.300
we're kind of assessing if like how serious that could be you know and i feel like that lack in
01:19:13.780
communication when you are in that talking stage like can really fuck a situation ship up because you're
01:19:19.300
trying to envision this person to fit all of your standards yet those standards are never really
01:19:24.820
communicated yet so i feel like that's one of the big things that maybe i did mess up by not
01:19:31.060
communicating to him and maybe i do owe him communication still instead of just like having
01:19:36.820
ghosted him yeah i would recommend about that a lot but sometimes pride gets in the way
01:19:42.100
because obviously that was hurtful and like annoying to see because i really don't want to be
01:19:46.900
just another plus one like i'm not sleeping with other people like doesn't mean i'm not seeing other
01:19:51.780
people but just to be like someone else's plus one out of the i don't know how many
01:19:57.940
you know i don't know and it's also important to know he can't read your mind either so if you're
01:20:02.340
saying you if you're saying you see him as a potential long-term romantic partner then it is
01:20:06.900
imperative that you communicate that because he could be left out in the cold wondering what happened
01:20:11.140
and you saw something that turned you off and you made a decision off of that turn off that ended up
01:20:15.380
breaking severing you guys's relationship so that should be something that you actually should revisit
01:20:19.780
if i mean if if you're open to it and that's something you think about still i say i would
01:20:24.020
recommend that you revisit that and clear up that line of communication thank you absolutely did we
01:20:29.460
go around with no no she's next so my longest relationship was um about a year and a half
01:20:38.100
and currently i'm single now uh how long ago did your relationship end about two years ago
01:20:44.020
cheers cheers and you're not talking to anyone right now nope
01:21:03.620
um i have been single for almost five years now um my longest relationship was almost three years
01:21:19.220
i'm going oh okay um i'm single as in unmarried um i date when i feel like it
01:21:25.860
my longest relationship has been uh three years it was three years
01:21:29.060
um do you all plan to like want to get married one day or have children i do
01:21:39.060
me too yeah yeah me too i don't know about kids but getting married yeah
01:21:44.740
i don't i don't think we i don't really believe in marriage anymore you don't believe
01:21:49.460
that why not what aspect of marriage i just feel like there's so much like love i think that i
01:21:56.180
could possibly give that i just don't see myself just like being with one person anymore
01:22:02.900
so you want to you could channel all that love into one person and make a beautiful relationship
01:22:07.700
out of it i just think dating now especially with like the internet and like where i live in la too
01:22:15.060
like i just feel like the dating pool is just not serious so i'm not gonna like manifest my mind
01:22:20.580
into like thinking like marriage marriage marriage like i actually want to put that love into like
01:22:24.820
myself and like be more putting into just myself i'm not gonna just focus on marriage like i like
01:22:32.420
i respect everyone that wants to get married and have kids but i feel like i just don't what do you
01:22:38.420
have a desire for a committed long-term relationship exclusivity if it comes but like i'm not gonna wait or
01:22:45.380
like cross my fingers or like wish for that to happen okay yeah seek it out yeah and the kid thing like
01:22:52.500
i've even thought about like even if i could adopt like and just have a kid for myself you know like
01:22:57.940
i think us as women we're all like have that motherly instinct and i have a cat so like i felt
01:23:03.940
for your cat situation i have four now so oh but um the marriage thing i'm like whatever
01:23:12.180
i'm like whatever's on it i'm not expecting it i'm not gonna like deny if somebody proposed to me i
01:23:17.300
would say yeah i mean like if i love them you know i would say yes but like i'm not gonna pretend to
01:23:22.660
think that like i'm gonna live like how my grandparents were like married for like 20 30
01:23:28.340
plus years or whatever like i just don't think that really exists anymore like unfortunately uh hold on
0.69
01:23:34.980
let me just regather the conversation here um bro i fucking spilled water not just on the table but i
0.95
01:23:41.780
live on all on me so uh and don't have any fucking change of clothes so um relationship
0.97
01:23:50.740
status did you share can you share it again since i was gone my longest relationship was a year and a
0.81
01:23:56.740
half and i am currently single how long have you been single two years two years okay and you i'm
01:24:03.940
currently single for almost five years now and longest relationship was almost three years three years
01:24:09.940
okay got it and daquan i know your situation um so the point where i got
0.99
01:24:16.660
fucking doused in my shit um you were saying that
0.98
01:24:23.380
monogamy is not the natural order of things for humans
1.00
01:24:28.740
yes so i was talking about just like genetically and kind of why we're facing a lot of the issues
01:24:33.780
that we're facing nowadays may be rooted to how we originally evolved
01:24:40.180
like started evolving did you want me to like go over the whole like scientific theory or no
01:24:49.220
it may certainly be the case that we are less monogamous now and that we might have a proclivity
01:24:57.940
towards um polygamy yeah however we also have a proclivity towards violence and thieving and stealing
01:25:07.380
so society reinforces behavior that is more conducive to a positive
01:25:16.980
social structure and the fact of the matter is polygamy is absolutely destructive to social order
01:25:24.820
also don't forget well let me just point out that still even today though the most common form of
01:25:29.780
dating is serial monogamy so when you say monogamous we may not want to we can't be together with
01:25:35.540
somebody forever like one person just forever but we do tend to pair up in in certain increments of
01:25:42.740
time like maybe two years like the average relationship is 17.2 months so about one to
01:25:48.180
two years we pair up and we form those pair bonds essentially to raise kids yeah exactly but um there was
01:25:54.980
actually um it's called universe 25 it was a harvard science experiment and basically what they did was
01:26:01.540
they created a utopia for rats to basically mimic like human society and it showed in conclusion that
01:26:10.100
even with everything that they had to survive to live they their society still crumbled no matter how
01:26:16.260
many universes that they made and you can look it up it's called universe 25 um
01:26:20.980
um their society still crumbled it eventually made it to where um there were these mice called
01:26:27.620
the pretty ones that would just groom themselves all day they did not seek sex they did not seek
1.00
01:26:32.980
partnership they didn't seek work looking for food anything it got to the point where the females had
1.00
01:26:38.100
recluse themselves up into higher up nesting boxes and eventually their society crumbled because they
01:26:43.300
lacked the uh social ability to be able to procreate socialize and overall interact with each other
01:26:50.580
but that society that society though what happened was the males became feminized and we need the
0.95
01:26:57.380
males to be men to uphold the society so the women the female mice overtook the men okay hold on
0.99
01:27:06.660
here but here i'm just going to i'm not even going to give credence to your when did the study take
01:27:11.540
place so it was actually a recent study it was done by harvard you can look it up it's called first off
01:27:16.020
i don't give a fuck about ivy league schools we know that the people coming out of ivy league schools
0.82
01:27:20.980
are absolutely brain dead so uh like okay you went to harvard you did a study at harvard cool
0.99
01:27:27.540
i don't give a fuck about rats we are not rats we are humans so show me a study that says that there is
0.99
01:27:35.940
a better way to organize humans than monogamy so i'm not saying to organize it better than monogamy i'm
0.98
01:27:42.660
saying that humans have all the tools that they need to be able to function to have monogamy to
01:27:47.940
have every like literally everything they need right but humans keep finding a way to make their own
01:27:53.140
problems to create issues do you see kind of what i'm saying i'm sorry i know i'm not very good at
01:27:59.220
putting it into words but no but you're citing some harvard and the the study could have came from
01:28:05.300
santa barbara city college for all i care um you're citing this study about rats rats defecate
0.98
01:28:14.180
like granted humans fucking defecate on the street too i suppose how do we test our medicines
0.92
01:28:19.540
like all of our medicines yeah but it doesn't go rats and then it's immediately approved for humans
0.99
01:28:24.420
they do like in vitro in vivo studies then they'll test them on animals and then they'll test them on
01:28:29.700
humans and you'll have plenty of studies that are tested in rats oh look it works great in rats but
01:28:35.460
then you test on a human and they have tons of terrible side effects so just because there's
01:28:40.660
there's evidence of something working or not working in rats doesn't mean that that's necessarily
01:28:46.100
indicative of how that's going to manifest itself in humans and yes this is true but you can already
01:28:51.940
see the patterns that are starting to form is what i'm saying like the patterns of society starting to
01:28:58.020
slowly diminish by people not being able to hold down relationships a lot of people like birth rates
01:29:03.060
are slowly declining yeah but this is why we need to like defund social like social the social sciences
0.96
01:29:10.020
because they're all like bullshit and like okay cool rats did stuff like how's that relevant
0.82
01:29:18.900
what what uh discipline at harvard conducted this study was it like sociology or something i believe it was
0.98
01:29:27.620
i can am i allowed to look it up to show it to you or i mean i don't know if we'd be able to find it
01:29:34.500
but like it's called universe 25 but we really i mean i just don't take it's these are soft sciences
01:29:40.100
there's not like there's so many glaring issues if like they lack controls and like no so rat study
01:29:47.300
it was done over the course of 50 years with multiple different universes rats cool no not 50 rats
01:29:53.620
oh so 50 years of rats yeah basically 50 years of rats in multiple different universes that had
01:29:59.140
the same is this what the best institution of the supposed best institution of higher education is
01:30:04.420
spending its money on and granted it's private i think it's private so there's no public funding for
01:30:09.540
harvard but 50 years studying on rats what i really 50 years on rats i want to say something i feel like
01:30:17.620
sorry i'm not uh discounting what you said but i feel like maybe technology has more of an effect on
01:30:30.820
monogamy are you trying to kind of like advancement are you trying to kind of prove how even though what
01:30:39.700
you're given say like in the rat study or whatever like no matter what they're going to
01:30:44.660
go for what they're naturally selected to go towards yes yeah what was the study trying to
01:30:53.860
measure um it was trying to measure how if you have everything right so let's say there is no world
01:30:59.620
hunger let's say we don't need to work let's say we have everything handed to us we figured everything
01:31:04.660
out we solved every problem we have right eventually basically what the study is trying to say is that we
01:31:10.500
will get so bored and so out of our minds that we're going to start getting confused and not
01:31:15.620
knowing what to do with ourselves but how does that translate to monogamy or polygamy so it translates
01:31:21.380
to monog sorry it translates to monogamy and all this and basically what's happening with modern day
01:31:26.900
dating because in the study there was a point in time where um basically the subjects had started
01:31:35.380
declining in monogamy they started becoming more polyamorous right and then eventually over the
0.96
01:31:42.340
course of time it became no one was anything anymore nothing was breeding so i'm saying we could
01:31:48.980
be in that part of time in human history where we have everything we need basically handed to us
01:31:56.260
because what do we do we have our whole lives planned we go to work we go home we eat we sleep we
01:32:02.340
repeat okay do we not i feel like i kind of get i kind of understand what you're getting at but at
01:32:07.540
the same time although humans aside from rats although humans are naturally going to go for
01:32:14.340
things that they probably shouldn't go for like brian was saying like shoplifting theft all this stuff
01:32:18.980
like that and say non-monogamy there's also like a right and a wrong in society so you have to be able
01:32:26.740
to choose between those two and evidently and probably statistically i don't know the statistics on this
01:32:32.980
but monogamous relationships do succeed a lot more they do but if you've noticed throughout the
01:32:40.020
course of history the percentage of monogamous relationships has been going down so what does
01:32:45.300
that tell us about ourselves as a society and where we are i think like courtney was where
01:32:50.020
they've been going now technology has a major impact on relationships nowadays and i understand
01:32:57.220
the picture you're painting with the study but i also think that it doesn't apply to our society
01:33:03.860
nowadays because us humans aren't necessarily at a point where everything's handed to us
01:33:08.260
so that need for polygamous relationships isn't doesn't have a high correlation you don't see rats posing
01:33:20.260
i think it's technology i think rats aside i don't think it's rats rats aside though i think
01:33:27.700
you're kind of getting the wrong message from that because it's the whole easy times create weak men
01:33:32.660
so the utopian universe failed yeah because thank you bender the offender because the men
1.00
01:33:39.460
be the male mice became feminized and the utopia they're the um there was a universe the only one
01:33:45.780
that succeeded was the one where they gave them almost nothing and they had to basically fight for
01:33:50.340
everything so that was the that was the universe that succeeded so i think you're kind of getting
01:33:54.180
the wrong message from that because it's really about they had everything they needed so the men became
01:33:59.380
princesses basically yeah and it's also trying to and it's also trying to it's also trying to project
01:34:04.340
like a lot of our sexual behaviors are shaped by sexual selection pressures which means society
01:34:09.300
wasn't perfect we developed things based off of how we went like how things were in in our
01:34:14.580
evolutionary past we selected for certain things that gave us adaptations advantages for us to keep our
01:34:20.980
species going so when you have a study like that it's not measuring the same things the the circumstances
01:34:27.060
are not the same the control is not the same the situations are not the same so it's hard to
01:34:30.420
extrapolate that when it's coming from uh uh this utopian perspective like what she said like
01:34:37.300
essentially even if that was the case let's say hypothetically that human society was like that
01:34:43.300
i still don't think that would eliminate monogamy and i don't think that would eliminate monogamy
01:34:48.100
because that it would be another hundreds of thousands of years before the human brain develops past
01:34:53.540
its natural proclivity to form pair bonding relationships that sustain children because
01:34:59.300
human babies have the longest periods of infancy and and vulnerability and we have the longest
01:35:05.460
gestation period so it would take another hundreds of thousand years for humans to even evolve to that
01:35:11.140
point so i mean i reject your rat study but let's assume let's assume i accept your rat study uh
01:35:24.100
what are you trying to say that polygamy is desirable no no no what are you suggesting i'm
01:35:30.340
basically suggesting that everyone's like so caught up in social media in themselves and everything and
01:35:36.900
just what how do i word this um sorry just kind of how everyone won't like wants things oh my gosh
01:35:47.700
so sorry everyone's so caught up in like how society is now with social media and everything that they're
01:35:52.020
not focusing on actual bonds with people versus like uh like looking into actually raising a family
01:35:59.700
looking into all these other things instead they're more focused on like my picture oh this guy's cute
01:36:05.300
instead of more um like am i going to be able to be with this person forever do we benefit each other
01:36:13.460
equally will we be able to um basically succeed in life and upbring each other like pushing each other to
01:36:21.220
grow greater or you see what i'm saying you also have to remember a lot of people have or everyone has
01:36:27.700
their own intention like not everyone has the same goal well social media is making people disposable
01:36:35.540
particularly uh dating apps it's making people just you just swipe and they're on and people go see each
01:36:41.860
other and people are just disposable now this all stemmed from i think we're talking to you about
01:36:48.820
yes this dude you were dating and um i forgot exactly my the questions that i had for that but um
01:36:57.700
i think i asked you said he was not a high value man but you're a high value woman what makes you a
0.96
01:37:03.540
high value woman i'm focused on my education that's something i value i focus on exercising i'm nurturing
01:37:11.940
kind loving respectful i'm a great sister i'm very involved in my family i'm religious to an extent
01:37:22.340
i don't just sleep around with whoever i'm very selective about that i'm careful about who i surround
01:37:27.620
myself with i don't go out often i don't really smoke anything anymore at all like i had that time
01:37:35.380
period of when's the last time you talk about weed yeah and nicotine when's the last time you smoked
01:37:42.100
weed probably like a month ago and i don't do it very often is what i'm saying how when's the last
01:37:48.900
time you smoked nicotine like a month two i mean that's not a very long track record but i'm also
01:37:56.340
20 years old so you know what i mean like your age i mean i don't think your age is no i'm just
01:38:02.660
talking about like you know a high value woman is not going to be like a 16 year old girl like
01:38:07.620
i'm on the path to get there and some of my characteristics embody that and i want to continue
01:38:13.540
working towards that because i do you party on the weekends i haven't been lately the only time
01:38:18.740
i'm going to be partying this month is like after finals when's the last time you went out and
01:38:25.300
partied on the during thanksgiving that's different if it's holidays but like most people
01:38:30.100
here in santa barbara have to go out like once a week so but i haven't been thanksgiving was two
01:38:34.900
weeks ago yeah and i just went out because that was like a holiday and about before that from home
01:38:40.660
before that yeah stuff like that and then what about before that well i don't i don't really
01:38:47.220
remember but it was not often drunk no it just hasn't been that often but i think high value women
1.00
01:38:54.180
don't go out to bars and clubs and parties and get shit-faced and drunk and tanked but i'm not it's
0.75
01:39:00.100
not clear to me if you do but that's why i'm saying like i'm not trying to as much and when i do it it's
0.77
01:39:05.300
kind of to celebrate with my friends like we finished the quarter just to go out with like
01:39:10.500
my girls it's very interesting because men always think that women go out to go sleep with like men
01:39:21.060
but the thing is that's some great projection and i recently talked to some guy friends and we were
01:39:26.980
just having conversations like this trying to educate each other and they were saying nine times
01:39:32.580
out of ten when a man goes out he goes out with an intention of ultimately sleeping with a woman that
01:39:38.420
night but i was talking about when us women do i'm sure some of us do it with the intention of sleeping
1.00
01:39:43.860
with a man but a lot of the time we're doing it just to celebrate have fun like be a girl literally
01:39:49.700
just dance with our friends and make fun heartfelt memories i'm not saying some don't go out with
01:39:55.060
that intention of sleeping with someone but the intentions the majority of the time don't line up
01:40:02.420
they i'm curious and q i think you probably have something to weigh in on on that but if you're just
01:40:09.380
trying to have fun why not just have a night in with your female friends put on some music get some
01:40:16.980
alcohol and drink in your house why the need to go to very specific social gathering venues
01:40:24.420
where the drinks are really expensive people are drunk and obnoxious there's strangers there
01:40:30.100
it's sometimes unsafe it's sometimes dangerous um the music is perhaps too loud that you don't get to
01:40:37.060
pick the music that you want i'm just curious like what is the purpose of going to say a bar or a nightclub
01:40:43.620
or a party i think courtney has something to say before i did you well because it's like a big
0.97
01:40:49.700
playground everyone's drunk running around stupid it's fun it's not always the intention of hooking
0.95
01:40:55.540
up with someone and it doesn't have to be but some people have that intention that's okay and i think
0.98
01:41:00.500
i mean you guys can dance around like it's kind of the atmosphere you guys can you guys can dance around
01:41:05.060
it all you want but the reality is like people go to these very specific social gatherings for the
01:41:11.060
potential opportunity of meeting a new person some people i think you can women like to dance around
1.00
01:41:17.300
this but the reality is like you're you're going out and like you want to meet a guy at these parties
01:41:24.020
no yes you do not always sometimes you're in the mood for example we go out then why not just stay in
01:41:31.300
i don't get it well because the atmosphere can you the lights no the light the loudness oh the
01:41:36.900
lights there's yeah the dark like it's fun we go and you can't always have that loud music in your
01:41:43.380
go to your girlfriend's house brian turn the lights off get a laser pointer chase it around the ground
01:41:48.340
like a cat when we go out when we go out together and like the places we go out to we don't pay for
01:41:55.220
drinks because we don't like it's and we have promoters female privilege yes it's female privilege and
1.00
01:42:00.180
you're because you're mad that you're not a woman that's okay no i'm not mad i don't go to i don't
01:42:05.940
like i don't go this is where we go and we are very privileged people don't look at us maybe they
01:42:13.300
want to sleep with us but they don't act like that they respect us and they treat us like princesses
01:42:19.060
really the guys respect you at isla vista parties yeah okay no it's not in isla vista this is
01:42:25.300
oh excuse me you go to the the upscale luxurious santa barbara college parties no no no we drive we
01:42:31.380
go places we go to like we have our place hollywood in la oh you guys have fake ids
01:42:38.180
oh the the age of entry for establishments that serve alcohol is 21 you guys are
01:42:43.940
20 and 20 okay so you have fake ids cool i mean isn't that known like isn't that like
01:42:49.300
a yeah it's common but like i mean it's okay we're we're gonna be 21 in two months yeah whatever i don't
01:42:55.060
care nikki what do you bring to the table though because you say you're like a high value woman
1.00
01:42:59.140
and things like that and what makes you a high value woman you're going towards your education
0.99
01:43:03.460
you're religious you're focusing on your fitness but like that's such basic
1.00
01:43:07.300
that any woman could do i'll also i'd point out you mentioned like your person i don't think it's
01:43:12.260
such basic that any woman can do to be honest i think it takes that's like the most basic thing
01:43:18.580
like go to college go to the gym do you have like we've like subsidized people that shouldn't be going
01:43:24.020
to college going to college but okay no i'm not speaking about you i'm just saying like there's a
01:43:29.780
large cohort of people that's why college prices are so expensive because the government is basically
01:43:35.620
co-signing on these irresponsible 18 year olds taking out five to six figures of student loans that
01:43:41.700
they have no chance of repaying when they're pursuing their feminist studies and
1.00
01:43:45.940
bullshit with other degrees do you have like life experience do you know how to change a tire
0.96
01:43:52.020
no i don't know how to change a tire but that's where men and women differ so if you get stranded
0.99
01:43:57.700
on the side of the road you're not going to be able to change your tire yeah no i'm not so does that
01:44:02.420
mean she's a low value person no i'm just saying that there's a lot of like more things that you can
01:44:07.300
learn but i think that's why it's important for there to be like a great line between feminine
01:44:11.860
and masculine roles i'm a i'm a woman like i'm not so all those things that you're saying like
01:44:17.940
yes those those are like feminine traits that make a high value woman changing a tire isn't one of those
1.00
01:44:24.100
because i need like a man to do that maybe to you some guys might think a chick changing the tire is
1.00
01:44:30.180
hot as shit wait q did you have something on the whole club yeah yeah i was gonna say i was i was gonna
0.84
01:44:36.740
say um it's essentially for validation that's that's what it is everything else is rationalizations
0.99
01:44:42.820
it's essentially for validation when you said the free drinks the it's the acknowledgement it's the
01:44:49.380
rewards it's guys basically seeing you you being seen you being given things to free gifts it's the
01:44:58.660
opportunity to be in the atmosphere where you feel like you're valued you mean something and what comes
01:45:05.540
that what comes out of that often is if it's a club with a vip section if there's guys in there
01:45:12.260
who are high status they the top guys you get invited into the vip section you get special
01:45:17.620
acknowledgement you get special privilege you're essentially advertising yourself that's what
01:45:22.980
you're doing whether you want to agree with it or not whether you believe it or not you are
01:45:26.340
essentially putting yourself in a dating scene because that's why men go to clubs that's why men party
1.00
01:45:31.940
they know women are going to be there that's why y'all get in free that's that's that's an offering
0.97
01:45:36.900
to the men it's like you guys show up you guys got to pay what you got to pay but the ladies that y'all
1.00
01:45:42.100
are going to essentially be able to choose from especially if you're a guy with money you got a club
01:45:46.340
section you vip these are the women that we're bringing so we bring women in free y'all pick the
0.99
01:45:51.220
women that y'all want to choose from and that's essentially what it is it's an advertisement it's
01:45:54.820
an opportunity for validation and it's essentially being you serve to men on a platter if they want that from
01:46:00.660
you that's essentially what it boils down to you don't just and one thing and i'll let you respond
01:46:04.740
to him you say that you don't party a lot but you have found it necessary to get a fake id so that
01:46:12.180
you can party but i told you i'm still young so i'm still working but like you said you don't party a
01:46:18.660
lot but that's something i recently started doing why the need i had that since the end of my senior
01:46:24.100
year of high school brian so you've been partying i'm a junior at ucsb i i went through those phases
01:46:31.380
but in any point in anyone's life you're constantly being educated on new things so i'm i'm constantly
01:46:38.340
growing as a person and i'm going to be learning more and more as i go and that's something i've
01:46:43.300
recently started to value you know everyone kind of goes crazy like their freshman year of college for
01:46:48.100
example i think or at some point or another so that's at the point i am well let me just yeah and
01:46:54.260
i know you wanted to respond to q i would just say like gentlemen do not date current or former party
01:46:59.540
girls girls who go to bars clubs etc that's it that's all i have to say gentlemen i want you to know
01:47:06.980
that women and men have different intentions when it comes to that and i doesn't matter i understand
01:47:14.260
what you're saying because those are men's intentions and that's why they want the girls
01:47:18.900
there because those are their hopes but that doesn't mean the women will necessarily uphold
1.00
01:47:23.460
those hopes and intentions of the men to go out no it doesn't very different so there are going to be
01:47:28.900
some girls that go out and do have those intentions like i was saying in some men that will get those
1.00
01:47:34.500
wishes for fulfilled but then there are those women that aren't going to advertise themselves or end up
1.00
01:47:40.820
sleeping with those guys well just by virtue of you being in the club is advertising just by virtue
01:47:47.460
of you posting photos on instagram that is advertising men have you ever approached a guy
01:47:54.420
rarely rarely how often have you been approached i think you asked this in the last podcast but i
01:48:00.580
said it was like 90 that i'm like 10 me but like when you go out like you get approached a lot
01:48:06.580
right see this is i mean this is a difference between men and women is that so every time you
01:48:11.220
go out you're putting yourself in an environment to be approached especially if it's a bar or a club
01:48:17.700
but we could control how we react you you can you can honestly bar or club us women will be on the
1.00
01:48:25.700
street wearing sweats no makeup hair up we'll still get approached and again this is a mental difference
01:48:32.340
between men and women and it's about how we react well and just because we want to put ourselves in
01:48:39.220
an environment while you're young i'll literally call my mom and ask her like should i go out mom
01:48:44.180
because i'll still sometimes be like but i like want to celebrate and she's like you should because
01:48:48.420
one day you're gonna have children and like you're gonna have to watch them and you won't be able to
01:48:52.100
like be young and have fun like run free and like dance with your friends like she's not like
0.98
01:48:57.940
yeah like go sleep with some guy like no it's not like that it's kind of about also like
01:49:03.620
preserving your youth because all of these things become intangible one day you know i mean you can
01:49:09.940
if you were so inclined a 50 year old could go to some 21 year old hot spot if she wanted to i guess
01:49:16.740
but i mean also i would actually argue it's if you're trying to preserve your youth actually staying
01:49:21.540
out late drinking partying doing drugs smoking being in these stressful chaotic environments actually
01:49:27.700
could contribute more to you aging than if then not engaging in them you only live once
01:49:34.660
but like you drinking your soda could also contribute to you aging
01:49:39.860
is that a whataboutism i mean it's like affecting your immune system
01:49:44.420
i mean this is like a secret juice it's not first off i'm not drinking soda i don't know i'm drinking like
01:49:49.940
a lot could be said about different things you know what i mean like that that argument could be said
01:49:54.980
for so many different topics okay but i was specifically addressing your argument about
01:49:59.780
preserving preserving your youth by going out to bars and nightclubs look the difference is
01:50:05.140
is that men women are different in how they run game so to speak so i'm going to credit uh there's this
0.97
01:50:13.460
twitter thread that i've referenced before from ldg i want to give them credit of course so women don't
1.00
01:50:19.620
approach men they put themselves in positions where they could be approached by men like clubs for
0.63
01:50:25.060
example they're not going to dm a guy but they'll post pictures to lure men into dming them for example
01:50:31.700
on instagram men are salesmen women are marketers so the difference like most guys are just too naive
01:50:39.460
and lack the capacity to be able to identify this distinction so in a committed relationship i think
01:50:46.340
that men should stop pitching and women should stop advertising so
1.00
01:50:53.620
i think it's the case that like oh well you know as long as i'm not directly attempting to like
01:51:00.020
approach a guy that's not that's fine or if i turn down guys at bars that's fine
01:51:05.380
but that was women were never initiating conversations with men women were never initiating
01:51:12.900
conversations with men to begin with like we use different strategies to get similar outcomes so
01:51:20.020
it's just totally different and and behaviorally i get the i get the distinction that y'all make in
01:51:24.100
between like guys say i want to get laid tonight so i'm going to go out or the goal is to get laid
01:51:28.980
you don't say that you and your girls don't say that like oh let's go get laid tonight y'all don't
0.55
01:51:32.580
say that but what i'm saying is if your intent is not to get laid that doesn't mean you're not going
01:51:37.380
to get laid that doesn't mean you're not going to get to the club and see a cute guy and a cute guy
01:51:42.340
is going to approach you and your girlfriend's going to say oh you know well we'll let you go
01:51:46.660
back home with him or whatever the case may be a lot of the time this happens so so on the outside
01:51:52.660
looking in it's easy to say yeah that's not our intention but what we see actually happening in
0.99
01:51:57.460
reality is this is what actually happened women go out they end up getting fucked it's it's
1.00
01:52:03.460
me and my friends well well but i'm yeah i don't want you to personalize it but the but the the
0.79
01:52:09.220
point is this happens and it happens often it happens all the time it's going to happen tonight
01:52:15.300
everywhere it's part of being i think that's also but that but that's what we're saying so
01:52:19.700
also your perception because those are the experiences you've had and the women you surround
01:52:23.700
yourself with i'm sure you're a guy that goes out and gets laid so you assume that like all women
01:52:28.500
go out and get i don't party i don't party your club like i said oh so good for you again this
01:52:34.340
you've never had a one night stand of course i have like my freshman year of college and
01:52:39.700
i've been growing constantly growing like i'm saying and i'm not trying to do that so when i that wasn't
01:52:44.420
also my intention when i would go out it's exactly what you said like pretty much i like found some
01:52:50.260
people cute and i ended up sleeping with them but again there's that self-control aspect and you live and
01:52:55.860
you learn but please hold on i'm not finished go ahead finish your point so i also know this
01:53:03.220
distinguish between women when they go out and men when they go out so i'm not in a mostly like
01:53:11.220
celibate right now but i'm not gonna you've been celibate for a month by the way okay i was celibate
01:53:16.660
for nine months before and honestly it works wonders because as a woman i feel like it
01:53:23.140
deep blinds you and it really helps you see i'll take your word for it i just want to say one thing
01:53:27.060
to that a lot of i want to make let me let me just make one point and then i'll let you come in
01:53:32.500
gentlemen watching um i'm not doubting what she's saying it may very well be true i'll take i'll take
01:53:38.100
her word for it i do want to let you guys know a lot of women come on the show and say my body count
1.00
01:53:43.620
is this i haven't hooked up with a guy recently i'm celibate blah blah blah cameras turn off we talk
01:53:49.860
behind the scenes and they admit my body count is actually three times four times they'll say oh
01:53:55.300
i was five and then behind the scenes i'm not saying you they'll tell us the truth oh they said
0.96
01:54:00.660
they're single they actually have a boyfriend um they said they're celibate they fucked last night
0.74
01:54:05.700
so i'm not saying it's the case for hair but you guys do should take things with a grain of salt when
01:54:09.780
people say certain things so yeah okay not me but other people anyways okay um so that distinguish
01:54:19.140
that that distinction i'm making that makes me knowledgeable about the kind of guys that are in
01:54:24.180
clubs so i'm not going to want to seek out a partner in a club knowing that the majority of men
01:54:33.700
yeah loose energy donated two hundred dollars
0.99
01:54:38.740
fucking cap these three hundred and fours cannot stop capping get the out stop the damn
1.00
01:54:45.460
cap with all that bullshit yeah i said it do some hashtag nick paul's cap lol hashtag
1.00
01:54:52.820
fuck your rats hashtag get the rocks hashtag i want the smoke do you want to respond yeah respectfully
1.00
01:54:59.380
i don't know who hurt you but go to therapy who who hurt you lose pussy energy like no like go to
1.00
01:55:05.700
therapy like i don't know the woman hurt you but not all of us are like that and who who hurt anyways
0.91
01:55:11.060
do some introspection healing do it but um yeah so that's basically the type of point i'm trying to
01:55:18.180
make is i don't go there to seek out a partner because i know like the men out in the clubs are there
01:55:24.340
because they want to like sleep with the women at the club and you wouldn't date a guy who goes
01:55:28.980
out to bars or clubs maybe because like i said the majority but then there's always like those
01:55:35.220
outliers in any situation so do you think you're the outlier of the girls that go to clubs i think
1.00
01:55:41.540
the majority of girls do actually go out to have fun and that's what i'm saying that's that
01:55:47.220
distinction the majority takes two to tango to like hook up but not everyone's the same and i feel like
01:55:53.620
the outliers in the female population do go to like sleep with men and like seek out men not
0.98
01:55:59.300
necessarily in a college environment i just mean in a broad context because in college i feel like
01:56:05.860
people are in this independent era of their lives and they kind of go crazy at first and they do have
01:56:12.900
a lot of fun with that so i have a question for you um if let's say you found a high value man and
01:56:19.300
would you continue going to the clubs with your friends it would be that would be a conversation
01:56:25.860
for him and i because i could respect if a man has some trauma and or like trust issues or if you've
01:56:32.980
used that in a certain way then like i would probably stop but i wouldn't respect him saying
01:56:39.460
like well i would still want to go out that would have to be a conversation we would have but i would
01:56:44.260
still want to like go out with him if he doesn't let me go out with my friends i would be like okay well
01:56:49.140
what if you come with us or like you bring your friends i bring my friends what if he says he
01:56:53.700
he just doesn't go to bars and clubs and he doesn't want to go out with you guys
01:56:58.420
well like i said that would be a conversation him and i would have to have an openly
01:57:02.660
communicate but you know that going to the clubs portrays a specific image of you then so it's
01:57:09.220
obviously a conversation you would have to have so you understand what going to the club
01:57:13.140
also why does it why does him not wanting you to go to bars and clubs have to stem from him being
01:57:19.700
like a past trauma or him being insecure i assume that's what you said and you said well
01:57:25.540
if he's got a past trauma and we had to have a conversation about it what if he just didn't
01:57:29.700
want you to go to bars and clubs because i feel like any conception that anyone forms is based on
01:57:36.820
past experiences and i would think when like men think that what you guys think you've had
01:57:43.300
unpleasant experiences or you've had some girls that are just kind of like for the team and really
01:57:49.140
do sleep around that go out so then you form this conception that all women that go out are like that
1.00
01:57:56.100
if that makes sense so it'd have to be like a conversation we would have to have like a mature
01:58:01.300
open conversation well okay so but it sounds to me like you would not be willing for your boyfriend
01:58:09.140
maybe even husband to give up going to the club no i would be what you just that's not what it
01:58:15.460
sounded like could you rephrase that sorry well okay i asked you if your boyfriend said hey i don't
01:58:22.100
want you going let's say you ask the guy for commitment and he said i'm prepared to commit to you
01:58:27.220
however i don't want you going to bars clubs and parties anymore i would have to ask if he's
01:58:32.980
going to be going to them too let's say no then no i would think that like the relationship is more
01:58:41.780
important than that all right like that's actually one of the most beautiful things in human life is
01:58:48.980
any social relationships we have friendships are romantic so i'd be totally willing to sacrifice
01:58:55.380
going out as long as he is too for our relationship because i would value that more than going out
01:59:01.220
like if i was dying tomorrow like i would pick like the relationship over going i i left the relationship
01:59:07.780
because of that and i was like i was so miserable i hated it like i felt like i was like like obeying him
01:59:15.540
and like because he didn't want me to go out so i i was like not going out also but there was like
01:59:20.660
something that i just like was not happy about about that like i would like see my friends like
01:59:25.540
going out and like they were in relationships also but like they were having fun with their partners
01:59:30.100
and stuff like that and i just you're so young like i feel like if if you want to go out you should
01:59:35.620
want to go out don't just like accept like oh because he's saying like you know don't go out or whatever
01:59:42.020
then here question for the whole table do you guys think a guy not wanting his girlfriend to go
01:59:47.460
the bars clubs parties do you think that's insecurity do you think that's him being um controlling
01:59:58.260
yes very controlling i think it is insecure and controlling but again that's something
02:00:05.940
that needs to be communicated and there's a reason why a man holds those insecurities so what you call
02:00:13.220
what you guys might call insecure or controlling i call having standards and boundaries
02:00:21.060
but then why are you attacking her when it was she was trying to like make her not attacking her
02:00:25.780
yeah no attack that she's a high value woman i didn't i didn't use that as a cudgel to attack
1.00
02:00:31.860
her i was asking how she's a high value woman if she was high value she would respect her husband or
1.00
02:00:38.100
boyfriend or whatever telling her that he doesn't want to be in the clubs hold on high value man
02:00:42.820
donated two hundred dollars oh man he's about as high value as a used gum wrapper rat girl is weird
1.00
02:00:49.620
but fine as f i bet we all know the answer but let's have them rate themselves one to ten
02:00:58.980
wait what i bet we all know answers but let's have them write themselves one to ten
02:01:02.580
uh here high value man i want to finish off uh we'll get to that we'll get to the one to ten
02:01:09.620
questions stifler has it ready for us we'll come back to that okay thank you man
02:01:13.940
so i just want to say that i don't know why you titled yourself as high value man
02:01:20.020
he wouldn't be sitting behind his phone screen typing right now negative have you ever watched the
02:01:26.820
kardashians no i haven't you've never watched any reality tv no have you ever doom scrolled on tick
02:01:33.380
tock for two hours when i was younger yeah when you were younger yeah okay so what do you do for
02:01:39.780
i watch like videos that educate myself on what on like life on everything okay on the conversations
02:01:46.420
so how to make money like how to invest like how to have good relationships how to like love yourself
02:01:52.580
i'd rather spend my time watching educational self-improvement content like that and also
02:01:57.540
balancing it out this is a highly educational conversation we're having right now it is
02:02:02.740
yeah i'd rather spend thank you man i appreciate you um did you so you guys were saying it's insecure
02:02:10.580
i guess what do you guys think oh hold on we'll go around butler donated 200 is it about herpes is he
0.91
02:02:16.900
gonna mention herpes clubs all have genital herpes i can smell your answered lady parts from
1.00
02:02:23.540
well well let's be nice okay let's be nice for the health and safety for the people in that room
0.97
02:02:32.500
can i ask you a question go ahead what is wrong with going to the club what is wrong for a woman to
1.00
02:02:39.780
go to the club i'm genuinely curious to know and is it going to clubs bars and like parties specifically
02:02:48.500
or is it just going out with the girls what's the difference what do you mean going out with the
02:02:54.020
girls going out with the girls like are they going to be like oh i just don't want you going out with
0.65
02:02:58.500
the girls in general which can range from literally getting our nails done going to the movies like just
0.79
02:03:03.540
having fun that's fine that's fine these are these are the just very specific social scenarios where
02:03:09.940
there's almost going to be an expectation that you get approached look i get it you girls might get hit
02:03:14.660
on on your way to trader joe's you're looking frumpy and you're wearing sweatpants i get that that happens
02:03:19.700
i'm not saying don't go to trader joe's but these are very very specific social gathering venues
02:03:25.140
they're high risk environments yeah and also i mean there's there's a whole bunch of concerns like
02:03:29.460
okay stuff getting put into drinks right guys constantly approaching you all night and we're
02:03:37.540
talking about from the context if you're in a relationship if you're in a relationship that's
02:03:41.300
that puts a man it uneases us because you go out whether you with your girlfriends doing whatever
02:03:48.100
having fun you have no intentions of getting laid or anything like that cheating those things can still
02:03:53.700
happen things that i can't say will can still happen and then if i told you i don't want you
02:04:00.020
doing that and one of those things happens to transpire how are you going to explain that to me
02:04:05.220
how how are you how are you going to tell me that i told you so and this is the reason that i told you
02:04:10.340
i didn't want you to do this or i i wasn't i wasn't um um um what's the word i'm looking for
0.96
02:04:16.100
fuck i forgot the word i i didn't want you to do it basically if i told you i didn't want you to do
0.98
02:04:21.780
it and you do it and something happens that comes back and puts our relationship in jeopardy
0.98
02:04:27.060
how are you going to reconcile with me and that relationship and that's essentially what it's
02:04:31.540
about it's minimizing the risk that anything harmful that could happen to you or our relationship
02:04:38.580
that's what it is it's mitigating that risk because women like to do things and believe
1.00
02:04:43.460
they're in full control this is not going to happen beaten cheeks donated two hundred dollars
02:04:48.740
my girl goes out all the time drinks even hooks up with guys at times but very secure in my woman
1.00
02:04:55.940
at least washing off after her hookups she even does off i am super secure in my future you brian
02:05:04.260
yeah i mean thank you beaten cheeks appreciate it man good to see you in the chat dude good to see
02:05:09.780
you did you want to continue yeah yeah i'm saying we have these conversations and we never look at the
02:05:16.260
realities of what actually can happen the possibilities the probabilities we have conversations in general
02:05:21.860
we say oh we don't like this we don't like that or this is insecure this is that but the reality is
02:05:26.180
these things happen they transpire all the time there are guys who they let their girlfriends go to
02:05:30.820
clubs they get cheated on their girlfriends get i can't say drugged yeah they get they know they
02:05:38.340
know okay yeah yeah that happens they might get taken into a bathroom it's just mitigating risk that's
02:05:44.740
what it is and as women women think oh you know this is not going to happen to me i'm in full control
0.96
02:05:50.100
but the reality is women don't know what the fuck is going to happen y'all have no idea what's going
1.00
02:05:54.980
to happen when y'all put yourselves in these situations just like you said and i just i'm not
0.99
02:05:58.340
picking on you but you said yeah i went to the club you had the one night stand or whatever yeah
02:06:02.660
i met a guy this that and the third y'all can't predict what's going to happen and that's just
02:06:06.660
the thing so it's better to avoid the risk altogether simply because you can't predict what's going to
02:06:11.060
happen and that's essentially what it is to us we're territorial we're protective we don't want
02:06:15.940
that to happen to you even if you think that never could the possibility still exists and we're just
02:06:21.060
trying to avoid that possibility you can call it insecurity if you want we call it territorial we
02:06:25.540
call it being protective we call it being a leader as long as you voice that i don't think it should be
02:06:29.700
an opinion like an issue if that makes sense did you have something i was gonna say it could happen
02:06:35.940
anywhere i mean like to be completely fair like differentiating from what area you live in
02:06:42.500
to everything i we're not saying it we're not saying that though yeah but i feel like even in
02:06:47.460
those places specifically why not go together like why not make sure she's safe why not have fun with
02:06:53.940
her why not that's a whole other thing hang out i i don't know what your views are on going out with
02:06:59.460
your girl but i think uh i just think going out in general and i perhaps i'm a bit risk averse in
02:07:06.020
this sense going out to these environments in general is dangerous to begin with like you've been
02:07:12.260
out to parties in iv right how many fights do you see when you go out and party in iv every single
0.99
02:07:18.180
fucking night right some dude fucking brain damage some 19 year old kid smacked his head on the concrete
0.99
02:07:25.540
brain damage rest of his life it's not worth it and like the thing is when you go out with your
1.00
02:07:30.260
girl especially if your girl is not like if she some girls might have a loud mouth right let me ask
1.00
02:07:37.700
you guys a question if you were out with your guy and some guy like walked by and said some shit to you
0.96
02:07:44.020
would you want your man to like defend you intervene on your behalf no because it doesn't matter i was
0.93
02:07:48.900
what does it matter i was but but i was just about to say i said i don't party your club when i'm 30
02:07:53.860
now when i was when i was 20 i went to a club when i was 21 i went to a club with my girlfriend
02:08:00.100
at the time and i don't like those environments i told her i didn't want to go but it was her birthday
02:08:05.540
and her older sister was like we going i got her you know i'm saying we all gonna go together it was
02:08:10.900
me her sister um her male cousin and just for example i hated it i did not want to be there didn't like
02:08:17.060
the environment she got drunk it was her birthday she got a little too drunk and when she was coming
02:08:23.700
back from the bathroom she bumped into a guy accidentally he goes watch where you're going
0.99
02:08:28.740
bitch like that so what do you think i have to do now now i gotta step in because you just you
1.00
02:08:36.020
disrespected my woman she can't help herself she tried to catch herself she couldn't help her sister
1.00
02:08:40.900
was supposed to help her her sister was going to help her because she went to the bathroom with her
1.00
02:08:44.180
but she stumbled and hit him he was like watch where you going bitch so now i gotta step in so
1.00
02:08:48.020
now there's a conflict in the club that i have to defend that i shouldn't have to because i didn't
0.97
02:08:52.260
want to go to begin with but i tried to be understanding and that's what ryan means by risk
02:08:55.940
averse too it's it's a risky environment not only for things regarding y'all drinks drugs all of that
02:09:02.020
stuff but conflict i understand all of this and i feel like it's all pointing fingers towards
02:09:08.180
the root issue at hand which is alcohol which makes people out of control that's why i think
02:09:15.780
it was really cool how you said you haven't been drinking for so many days because our society has
02:09:20.660
normalized it 34 but during my celibacy i was also like not drinking either i do it like periodically
02:09:29.540
because see what kind of issues like we run into like your girlfriend couldn't control herself she
1.00
02:09:33.940
stumbled upon someone people cheat on their partners that's the other men get into fights
02:09:39.780
it does like make people more aggressive it makes people have sex with people they didn't want to have
0.97
02:09:44.980
sex with so i feel like that's really the root issue at hand and that's also why i don't want to be
02:09:50.100
doing it as often so i i understand where you guys are coming from that's why i think it's very different
02:09:56.500
if like girls just like go out with their girlfriends to like a restaurant for example than in a club
1.00
02:10:02.260
because alcohol does pose a lot of issues and that's why if i had go get dinner that's yeah
02:10:08.100
and if i had a significant partner right now like i probably wouldn't want them to go out either
02:10:14.820
because then there's that risk of them cheating on you so i i actually value oh um your point a lot
02:10:21.220
actually it really like opened my mind and i probably if i had a boyfriend right now i probably
02:10:25.780
wouldn't want him to go out and i would respect him not wanting me to go out because there are a lot of
02:10:30.580
risks that would jeopardize the relationship or our safety especially the safety of a woman
02:10:35.620
and to add what q was saying um so if you're if you're a girl especially if there's alcohol involved
02:10:42.740
uh if your girl's mouthy like i've seen so many you can find fight videos online i've seen it in person
0.85
02:10:49.940
um where a girl will mouth off to some dude you can see this anywhere you'll see it like in a nfl game
02:10:57.220
in the stadium i've seen videos of there was this one video of this girl mouthing off to some dude
1.00
02:11:02.660
and then the dude who she was mouthing off to is like okay she's not a threat but the boyfriend is
0.98
02:11:10.020
i'm gonna scorch the boyfriend and he he just fucking boom clocks him cool brain damage good
0.99
02:11:15.860
times so it's just it's a risky situation to be in especially if you got like your girl's drinking
0.98
02:11:22.580
if she can be mouthy and like i bro it's you're it's at risk because a lot of women know that they
1.00
02:11:30.260
can mouth off to a dude and they're not going to do anything but if your boyfriend's in the picture
02:11:34.980
that guy who you're mouthing off to he starts looking redirects aggression to you oh okay he's
02:11:41.460
a potential threat boom now you're in a fight and that could be life-changing
0.99
02:11:45.860
shit people go to people go to bars and clubs they get drunk they punch somebody but the guy hits
0.98
02:11:52.500
his head on the concrete boom murder 20 years in prison or if you're on the receiving end of it
1.00
02:11:58.980
permanent you fucking die brain damage it's crazy so it's just not worth it um and then of course like
0.98
02:12:06.740
he was saying like if you go out like we as men if you guys are looking at us to be protectors
0.98
02:12:11.300
that's us being it like trying to protect you from risky situations and we know that like the guys
02:12:19.940
like you guys said the guys that go these environments might not be the most respectable
02:12:24.740
members of the community who knows what they might try to grab they might try to put something in your
02:12:29.300
drink they might try to yeah they're trying to get late they might try to grab up on you like we
02:12:34.580
don't we don't want you in that position that's us protecting you and wanting to protect the relationship
02:12:39.380
so that's why communication is is so important because if you're just telling your partner hey
02:12:44.420
i don't want you to go to a club i don't want you to go to a party and they're like okay why oh
02:12:48.660
just because i don't want you to go if you're telling them like oh these are the risk factors that
02:12:53.300
are going into it i would understand more but if you're just telling me no and you're like i just
02:12:57.380
don't want you to go i'm gonna think you're being controlling and trying to stop me and i i get
0.99
02:13:00.980
that i understand that um i a lot of y'all they idiots yeah a lot of y'all a lot of y'all they a lot of
0.97
02:13:07.140
y'all date guys who can't articulate themselves they don't know how to explain how they feel
0.98
02:13:11.940
and that's what you resort to you believe okay this is coming from a place of insecurity but when
02:13:16.900
you have guys like me and brian who know how to articulate ourselves i can tell i'm a great leader
02:13:20.820
in my relationships i know how to tell my woman i know how to express exactly to my woman why i don't
02:13:24.580
want her to do something and most of the time she'll understand i say most of the time because
02:13:28.340
sometimes you're hard-headed and y'all stubborn but most of the time she will understand okay i can
02:13:32.340
understand that and and to the guys out there watching it's it's easier to just avoid women who
0.88
02:13:39.940
enjoy doing things like she said like you said you felt trapped you you yeah exactly it was mine
02:13:46.500
wasn't just clubs or bars like mine i couldn't even go to like a trip with my girls to hawaii i wasn't
02:13:52.500
allowed to go to any concerts like the weekend concert like i remember specifically that i like
02:13:57.300
wanted to go with like my girlfriends and like he just like was like no you're not allowed to go do
02:14:01.860
any of that because of the reason that you guys had spoken about okay okay yeah so so it's easier for
02:14:07.380
the fellas out there y'all just date women or try to find women who value what you value who y'all ride
02:14:13.300
in the same circles y'all have the same interests assortative mating is a thing homogamy is a thing
02:14:18.340
date somebody who values the same things you value in terms of activities and things that you can do
02:14:23.620
because there are women who women are entitled to do whatever the fuck they want to do and as a guy
1.00
02:14:29.300
exercising good mate selection is understanding you have to eliminate those women from your dating pool
1.00
02:14:35.060
it's that simple yeah i agree because we would always go out when we were first dating so that
02:14:40.180
that kind of like twisted my mind i was like why why was it okay in the beginning and now it's
02:14:44.980
not like i got snatched of it right and i can understand that too with him switching up that's
02:14:49.300
another thing i agree yeah okay good good talk good talk i would also argue though like
02:14:59.140
as a guy we you mentioned like well there needs to be communication about this i would actually argue
02:15:04.820
that a good woman a high value woman you actually don't need to tell her she does this stuff
02:15:10.580
automatically oh so you just want us to do what you say you snap your fingers and we just know that's
02:15:14.660
not what i'm saying like you just know like that's just how you're coming into the relationship
02:15:20.500
yeah you lose interest in it essentially like i shouldn't have to tell you the stop club first
02:15:25.860
off i personally probably would not pursue a woman who even has a proclivity towards going out because
0.87
02:15:31.220
i don't i don't really drink i'll occasionally have like a beer a glass of wine rarely i maybe have
02:15:36.980
once every three months i'll have a glass of wine i never been blacked out i've got sick one time and
02:15:46.500
then after that i was like okay one two drinks max but i don't go out don't go out to bars don't really
02:15:52.340
drink so i'll give you ladies another example that speaks to brian point um the last relationship i was
02:15:57.460
in at my college i dated one of the women who was on the women's basketball team and the women's
1.00
02:16:03.060
basketball team they like to go out and club and party i mean college women they're always on the
0.98
02:16:07.940
road they play games i went to a division one university so they were super busy so whenever
02:16:11.940
they got the opportunity they went out when we got in a relationship she never wanted to go out with
02:16:16.260
them anymore like she would just tell them just go ahead i didn't even have to say anything i didn't
02:16:19.620
have to tell her i was uncomfortable with it i didn't have to express that she voluntarily gave that
02:16:24.100
up and then what that turned into is because she was one of the captains on the team she said
02:16:28.420
why don't we just have girls night in my room like they would literally just set up beer pong
1.00
02:16:33.620
in their in the room and they would play beer pong they would invite some of the men's team if they
02:16:38.420
wanted to come over they play beer pong we play what's the little game where you take the logs out
02:16:43.060
uh yeah jenga we play that it was really simple she she altered the way that she um heard fun for me
0.67
02:16:51.860
and the whole team followed behind that because she was a captain but i didn't have to say anything
02:16:56.100
because she already knew that that was risky situations and she respected me to the point to
02:17:02.340
where i didn't have to communicate that to her she just knew to do it i got a question for all the
02:17:06.660
girls here would you object to your boyfriend going to the strip club when you're during the
1.00
02:17:12.340
relationship we'll go around the table yes like what you know why don't you trust him
0.53
02:17:19.540
because like you go to that's kind of insecure naked woman that's kind of insecure though
02:17:24.420
controlling that's really controlling that you wouldn't let your boyfriend go to the strip club
0.68
02:17:28.100
other woman like tip me like i'll strip for you but oh but it's a boys night out like he wants to
02:17:33.780
hang out with his boys like have fun blow off some steam no oh okay i'd say as long as he's gonna
02:17:40.980
stay loyal and he's not actually gonna do anything i'd be fine with it okay that's fine do your thing
02:17:47.700
okay you'd be cool with him going to strip club as being a retired stripper i oh yeah i think it'd be
02:17:52.900
okay because when i danced the last thing i wanted to do was be with those guys i'm just here to get
02:17:59.140
your that's fair because i was i was gonna make the point go go please go i was gonna make the point
02:18:04.660
that the reality is though some of you might object to your boyfriend going to the strip club the
02:18:08.900
reality is his chances with the female strippers is like is pretty much close to infinity whereas
02:18:17.300
when you guys go out to bars and clubs you're if you were if so inclined to cheat uh probably like
0.98
02:18:24.020
90 of the dudes in the club would fuck you so that's the difference would and want to
1.00
02:18:30.580
you'd be cool with your boyfriend going to the strip club and i also think that it's a weird concept
0.99
02:18:34.180
it it the way that's how the boys have fun the way i envision strip clubs in my mind is like a
0.97
02:18:42.580
bunch of pathetic men getting together going to the strip club getting hard together and then going
02:18:49.380
home with i was actually a lot of your meetings there when i would work there uh why do it why do
1.00
02:18:56.100
you have to do i know men are much more visual like they seek out they value looks so much more and
0.88
02:19:04.180
like that visual aesthetic and i would actually it's life but i just think it's cringy and pathetic
0.93
02:19:11.460
and i just know what's cringy and pathetic women going out to bars and clubs and but we're talking
1.00
02:19:16.340
about in relationships like you guys were saying if i was in a relationship again i wouldn't want
02:19:22.580
my boyfriend to go out and like i would respect him not wanting me to go out so okay it's the same
0.92
02:19:28.660
thing if you're single do what you want to do i still think it's a little pathetic but you're
0.65
02:19:32.020
cool with the boyfriend going to the strip club into the mic please i'm kind of half and half i don't
02:19:40.740
like the idea if i'm being honest i don't i don't see why he would do that if he has his own girl
02:19:48.100
but why why go to the club if you got a man it's different how's it different it's different depending
02:19:56.340
on the situation like recently i went to the club with my friend to celebrate her birthday so it's
02:20:03.700
like i wasn't there with the intentions of pursuing a man if that makes sense did you get approached when
02:20:10.180
you went out i have before no that specific night though did you get approached i don't think so i don't
02:20:19.540
think so what about you no i would not it's it's not even a trust thing it's just it's a terrible
02:20:24.660
environment you okay maddie what about you absolutely not okay nope all right uh what about this what
02:20:33.700
about your boyfriend paying for another girl's uh or not another girl's but the girl's only fans while
02:20:39.220
in a relationship with you would you object to that yes i wouldn't date a guy like that
0.97
02:20:45.300
i mean it's just a subscription it's just like he's paying to see another girl naked like porn is
0.83
02:20:52.820
free yeah i mean even watching porn yeah that's bad you know what i think is there no like free
02:21:01.060
subscriptions no it doesn't no just say it's it doesn't really matter you're paying to see some
02:21:06.260
other woman maybe not yeah maybe not to pay because it's like come on man you can buy like
1.00
02:21:11.140
lunch with that not even for free it's it's human nature no it's not i think here wait let's go
02:21:18.020
around the table we sorry what was the question would you be cool with your boyfriend paying for
0.99
02:21:23.380
girls only fans no no but you can pay for mine i think your boyfriend should get that shit for free
0.98
02:21:30.660
but okay no and i think it does kind of controlling and insecure of you but there's like intentions behind
0.99
02:21:38.980
that like we're saying it's kind of like the same thing as watching porn i don't think it's normal i
02:21:43.220
think it's become normal and i think that it doesn't just impact relationships negatively i think it
02:21:50.740
impacts the people that are watching it negatively for example it gives you an overload of dopamine
02:21:56.340
which makes you procrastinate the goals you actually want to get to and going to nightclubs
02:22:00.900
bars and parties gives you an overload of those same exact chemicals because you're in a high energy
02:22:07.380
stimulating environment thank you brian yes and guys are hitting on you and you're getting attention
02:22:12.820
no but you're getting attention from other men and men and women value different things so men want
02:22:18.580
men want sex women want attention so you're getting attention from men whether you're you
1.00
02:22:24.980
intend to sleep with them or not so you're getting attention from these other men you're getting
02:22:29.300
validation from them so yeah but you're not getting you should be getting that exclusively from your boyfriend
02:22:35.940
yes we already talked about this that's why if i was in a relationship i wouldn't want
0.97
02:22:41.380
my boyfriend to go out and i wouldn't go out but anyways i think again it's oh so pathetic
0.89
02:22:45.700
for a man to like follow only fans or watch porn when he's in a relationship because then what's the
0.90
02:22:51.780
point of the relationship you might as well be single like that's a commitment you're committing
02:22:55.700
to a person to only sleep with them and see them in that sexual romantic light why do you need
0.91
02:23:00.420
to see other women like that strip club only fans porn would you like can we pull up nick can we pull
1.00
02:23:06.260
up nicole's uh instagram profile um would you be willing to make your instagram private or take down
0.95
02:23:12.660
certain revealing photos on your instagram in a relationship she's like hell no i don't know again
1.00
02:23:21.380
i would need to think of that wait but it's okay it's you would like i would not be would you be
02:23:27.700
would you be would you have an issue with your boyfriend liking other women's instagram photos
02:23:32.740
and like following ig models oh yeah okay but so you would be posting again but no i would not
02:23:39.940
honestly i wouldn't well but you do have those kind of photos on your am i in a relationship and
02:23:44.260
no but if you were i'm asking if you were in a relationship those types of pictures anymore because
02:23:49.060
again i'm constantly like growing but i know what you're talking about and i don't really post
02:23:54.500
pictures like that anymore like no but there's you still have them up okay and that was like part
02:24:00.100
of me i'm a different i'm still the same right but you could you can archive them you can yeah
02:24:04.340
i would yeah if he wants me to yeah you'd be okay with that okay that's fine yeah i think it's
1.00
02:24:10.340
little boy shit what's what's little boy shit watching porn like why don't you go
1.00
02:24:16.340
do that live action with your girlfriend like what if she doesn't want to yeah what if she
1.00
02:24:21.140
doesn't want to then you i don't know i think sex is a very important part of relationships dump her
0.94
02:24:26.820
and if he has to resort to porn then like okay wait you say dump her what if she's on her period
0.98
02:24:33.300
oh that's period sex you're saying you're saying like if it's i i was under the assumption you're
0.99
02:24:38.020
talking like there's a prolonged period of time where your girlfriend doesn't want to have sex with you
0.94
02:24:42.020
no not like a prolonged period of time let's say you guys just have normal sex and then you go up
02:24:45.540
to her you want to have sex tonight oh no that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking if like
0.98
02:24:50.100
there's prolonged periods of time where it's like a dead bedroom and you guys don't fuck anymore if you
0.99
02:24:54.820
if the woman wants to dump the man because he doesn't fuck her anymore that's totally valid too
1.00
02:25:00.340
yeah so do you have something i just had something to do like um with the only fans right um you
0.95
02:25:08.420
mentioned that like online content is like you know a big issue but before i mean yeah it did make
02:25:14.260
it more readily available but before there was online content there were magazines before there
02:25:18.340
were magazines there were hotels before there were hotels there were houses there were brothels it goes
1.00
02:25:23.460
back right so it's sex is a very natural thing for people and i think it's completely healthy where
02:25:30.100
if my partner like if i don't want to have sex with my partner they should be able to go wank off real
0.99
02:25:36.580
quick relieve whatever attention they have and get back to their day you know it's kind of it's
02:25:41.300
their body so i don't see why it would be wrong to have to watch something for it to happen because
02:25:47.060
it's just so natural i mean even in the wild like other animals will watch each other and jack off so
02:25:52.900
it's like huh um what you're saying you're kind of saying that porn has been seen in different sources
02:26:01.300
over the history of time but that doesn't change the fact that it's unhealthy that men going to
0.99
02:26:06.820
prostitutes like prostitutes being prostitutes brothels magazines that doesn't change the fact
0.97
02:26:11.780
that it's still unhealthy in a form of excessive dopamine so this is true i agree with that this is
0.98
02:26:19.700
true thank you but at the same time it could also create an issue because if you have like this
02:26:26.180
unrealistic ideology like let's say you're like oh i only want to have sex once a week and your
0.90
02:26:31.460
partner wants to have sex a little more often and you're like nope once a week and then you don't
02:26:35.540
want them to be jocking off you don't want them to be watching that stuff online right so then what
02:26:41.300
issue does that create for your partner they're stressed they're tense all the time they're probably
02:26:46.260
thinking about cheating because they're so riled up they haven't gotten anything and the way that they
02:26:51.540
are specifically they want it right wait i have something related to that in that situation who
02:26:57.380
should be making the compromise or is that something that should be determined on a relationship by
02:27:02.220
relationship basis should the woman try to compromise and be like try to have more sex with the man should
1.00
02:27:06.980
the man be like well okay well it should be distinguished like amongst both parties you know and if that's
02:27:12.500
something that you feel like like let's say you don't like your partner watching that stuff i feel like
02:27:17.860
that's something you should discuss really up front because a lot of men a lot of women a lot of
1.00
02:27:21.460
people you know are gonna be watching stuff like that and they're gonna be doing stuff especially
02:27:26.500
if they're not having their needs met you know what i'm saying i do have to move the conversation on
02:27:32.580
a little bit i actually have one last example here um let's say you were married had kids
02:27:41.700
and you were let's say you had three kids and it was getting kind of stressful and you wanted to hire a
02:27:48.100
nanny um would you have a preference for example maybe hiring an older nanny compared to like a hot
1.00
02:27:56.340
19 year old nanny i'd say it depends who has more experience because for all we know the 90 year old
0.99
02:28:03.460
nanny might have only been a nanny for two years 19 year old well the 19 you never know she might
1.00
02:28:09.300
have been a nanny from when she was 12 13 who knows yeah who knows you know it just depends on the
02:28:14.260
experience level but i do i do think it would be the case that like a lot of wives would probably
1.00
02:28:18.420
prefer having maybe hiring the less attractive nanny than the like hot super hot nanny how do they not
1.00
02:28:28.900
trust their husbands are they insecure or could it come down to there's temptation and there's opportunity
02:28:36.260
and the means so i think in that situation instead of worrying about who's hot who's not you should
02:28:44.820
think about who has more qualifications to be watching your child like if they're gonna know
02:28:49.380
what to do equally qualified equally qualified whoever i gotta pay less say exact you pay them
02:28:56.260
the exact same i would look i'm not saying all women would choose this but i think
02:28:59.380
all things being equal a lot of women might opt to hire the less attractive one some might not care
1.00
02:29:07.300
but oh yeah absolutely i mean i think there's a little bit less risk with like the older one
02:29:13.060
because i feel like maybe the younger one will be like on the phone and like what if my baby like
02:29:16.900
falls or something you have to assume in the scenario that they are going to take care of your child
02:29:21.540
just and i feel like the older one will like be more wiser like be able to teach me like little
02:29:26.660
things like oh like you should wrap your baby like this or just like more tricks i feel like a
02:29:31.140
19 year old won't know those types of things okay he just said they have the same experience like in
02:29:39.460
everything like the hypothetical was that if all right here we're gonna move on i need to read a
02:29:44.100
couple chats we have tj king hey thank you man ladies do you think married women in today's society
1.00
02:29:48.420
do not notice the man's efforts to support her and the children ie wife you don't spend enough time
0.98
02:29:53.780
with me husband i work 68 60 to 80 excuse me 60 to 80 hour weeks do not notice the man's effort to
02:30:03.140
support her and the children um do you guys want to answer that going around the table
02:30:10.180
i think that that contributes to a lot of problems in mature relationships because obviously us women want
1.00
02:30:17.620
our man to be hard-working but then us women do like attention and validation like you guys are saying
02:30:23.780
like in a relationship we do need that attention validation like show us that you love us like
02:30:28.580
even though we're together and committed like constantly you show us that um but i think that
02:30:36.420
if you want as women if you guys want a top g you're going to have to make certain compromises
02:30:42.420
when it comes to the attention that you get from this guy because if you want a very high earning man
02:30:49.220
which a lot of women are attracted to men with high status or who are high earners dude's probably
0.95
02:30:55.780
going to be busy probably not going to be able to spend as much time with you as your boyfriend in
0.53
02:31:01.460
college that didn't have jack shit going on so yeah definitely but there just needs to be some
02:31:08.580
communication about that or him doing like as much as he can to give anybody have any other thoughts on the
0.59
02:31:16.100
chat or okay all right yo we got cheeks here beating cheeks hey thank you man
02:31:22.740
a high value woman is a traditional woman who has good religious values virgin not fat that will
1.00
02:31:28.580
not be a headache to any man men do not care about your college education your travels or exes
02:31:34.020
that's facts that's facts facts does anyone disagree with that i kind of do because okay i mean like
02:31:48.180
if it doesn't matter about your college degree or anything then are you just picking a woman
02:31:52.180
because she's pretty like do you not like this is the woman that's going to be raising your kids and
1.00
02:31:58.340
you're saying a college degree isn't important what is not important at all yeah that doesn't
02:32:03.380
necessarily correlate sorry yeah you'd be a wife or a mother but um i what i'm just trying to kind
02:32:10.340
of get at was mainly just like education in general like in life skills you know you're saying a high
02:32:14.900
value woman is just going to do whatever you say but if someone's agreeing with you all where is it
0.98
02:32:20.900
unless you got a degree from how to be a wife university well if she's just agreeing with
1.00
02:32:26.580
everything then you have no growth either no well first off some of the most stupid and brain dead
1.00
02:32:32.740
people have college degrees like just because you were able to sit there and let's basically college is
1.00
02:32:43.540
is um is a five figure you you basically want somebody to read to you um like
02:32:54.500
congratulations you're able to be a cog in the machine and complete the tasks i i don't think college is
02:33:00.340
really pumping out any anything really spectacular intellectually so yeah kind of where i was like
02:33:05.940
going with that was more on like education on like how to do real life things um college no
02:33:13.300
sorry um just what i took away from him basically saying college degree was like
02:33:18.180
kind of an education well i mean essentially what he was what he was saying was if you ask women what
02:33:25.220
do men when you ask women what they bring to the table they often say college education i'm educated
02:33:29.780
i'm educated i'm educated yeah so what he's saying is men don't care about that and it's not that we
02:33:35.540
don't care about that's not our predominant that's not our preference like we don't value that if
02:33:39.700
there's a if there's a hierarchy of things that we value in women college education is not going
1.00
02:33:43.860
to be at the top we have a preference for youth and beauty uh uh how kind you are how feminine you are
02:33:49.540
like things that actually make you enjoyable to be around and a mentality and attitude that can raise
02:33:56.580
our kids that's what we value more than the college education this is very true but how are like
02:34:03.140
looks and femininity and all like that all of that going to actually raise your kids that's
1.00
02:34:08.900
attraction you got to create them that's what starts your connection yeah how is how is your
02:34:16.260
degree in what's the fucking the degree that people have women's studies women's studies women's
1.00
02:34:24.260
studies yeah in feminism how's that going to help you raise your children congrats you have a bachelor's
1.00
02:34:30.020
in feminist studies i mean shoot do you learn a little bit of history in that you you learn false
0.99
02:34:35.300
history and bullshit and man-hating well actually i would argue that if you're if your college degree
0.97
02:34:41.700
is in feminist studies that makes you barred you should be barred from having children and families
1.00
02:34:48.180
because if you birth a son you're going to hate your son if you have a husband you're going to hate
02:34:52.340
your husband so no i don't i don't think getting and also the reality is i think in a lot of universities
02:34:58.660
uh i think it's a requirement in my opinion i don't know do you have to take any like sociology
02:35:04.740
or feminist studies classes as general education sociology yeah you got to take sociology but i feel
02:35:12.180
like you can like pick to like what you want to take congratulations you've just learned how to hate
02:35:17.220
men cool essentially basically that's what that is i think that at all these all these college
02:35:24.420
institutions are just churning out man-hating women basically that's what they are they're
1.00
02:35:30.580
indoctrination factories believe this all 99 of my professors are probably liberal okay i'm going to
0.97
02:35:36.980
believe the main the main storyline and i also believe in feminism and men are terrible and men are
02:35:43.300
oppressors even though 60 of college graduates are women are women and women don't have any
1.00
02:35:49.460
opportunities and there's male privilege even though i'm more educated than my male counterparts
02:35:54.660
so hello sorry i'm just ranting that facts it's facts that's true i agree too what do you disagree
02:36:04.260
with on that oh just the fact that what do you disagree with that colleges are teaching
02:36:08.980
that now they are instead of like actual science well most women don't major in in stem they don't
1.00
02:36:17.140
major in any of the in any of the sciences those are predominantly still men most of most of most of
02:36:22.420
the nursing education the feminine studies all of those liberal arts those are predominantly women
02:36:29.700
women are getting degrees mostly in those fields nursing is probably the most useful field that
1.00
02:36:34.340
most women get degrees in your college education does not make you more attractive
1.00
02:36:45.860
i think college or not i feel like everyone's attracted to education like even if it's not
02:36:51.060
through college just someone who has the same values and morals as you and the same ideas as you
02:36:58.900
whether college has to do with it or not you know and i and i i made a video i made a video talking
02:37:04.100
about that i said women who think men should value their their education and their degrees why don't
02:37:09.380
we take only fans and we substitute it with degrees we turn it into only degrees and see how much money
0.99
02:37:15.700
women make by posting their degree degree ass white girl a woman with fat ass degree like why don't we
1.00
02:37:23.460
why don't we take only fans and substitute all the adult content that's posted on there with women
1.00
02:37:30.260
posting their degrees and their education and their credentials and see how much money they make
1.00
02:37:36.020
that shows you what men value right there i think the guy's comment itself was just stupid
1.00
02:37:42.580
the traditional wife is a virgin and yeah uh the traditional wife being a virgin and things like
0.99
02:37:52.660
that like automatically if you want your partner to be a virgin and and you're not like i think i don't
02:38:00.260
think there's anything wrong with that i think people just have their own what's wrong what's wrong with
02:38:04.580
wanting a virgin why why is that like the perfect girl why why is that because she hasn't been sexually
0.99
02:38:12.580
conquered by anybody yet so stupid it's what it's what men are attracted to actually yes nick i think we have
1.00
02:38:21.300
those already pulled up i mean look it's uh one there's hold on hold on nick hold on i mean one
0.99
02:38:28.660
std risk so a woman who's a virgin like absent her getting something from her mother in childbirth
0.91
02:38:35.860
very unlikely to have an std a woman who's okay cool you get tested you have herpes congratulations
1.00
02:38:42.900
don't be with them then wait what but okay if you're if you're promiscuous if you sleep with
02:38:48.580
a lot of people then you the likelihood of you having a sexually transmitted disease is higher
02:38:56.020
yes absolutely and sometimes they're asymptomatic and you can pass it along to your partner the other
02:39:00.180
thing is when women have had a lot of sexual partners uh their ability to pair bond with future
1.00
02:39:07.540
partners is greatly diminished the likelihood of infidelity is much higher the likelihood of
02:39:12.660
reporting relationship and marriage dissatisfaction is much higher uh what else there's the likelihood
02:39:20.180
of divorce is much higher and they've done studies on this
02:39:25.140
and also like men in the the women value experience whereas as a guy you women like men who are leaders
0.94
02:39:33.620
as a guy if you have sexual experience you will be able to have good sex with a woman who's a virgin
0.99
02:39:39.380
it's not clear to me if women seek out virgins like to have really they actually don't they
02:39:45.540
actually don't prefer that according to the research and my last two girlfriends were both virgins i'm not
0.68
02:39:51.700
a virgin i i i know how to date i know how to fuck so but essentially i turned them out they imprinted on me
0.92
02:39:59.300
i liked i liked making them like feel like they were mine that i'm i became the standard of what they're
0.94
02:40:06.180
used to it's an ego stroke it's ego boost i'm not gonna lie about that i put it on the right she'd be
02:40:11.540
like ah all i can think about is you all i realize you you're the only thing i know that that that's
02:40:15.700
attractive to me i like doing that and i'm sure there are men who feel the same way so of course
02:40:19.620
it's an ego stroke it's an ego boost you got to it first and they were my girlfriends i made them
02:40:23.780
my girlfriends that's only fair if you a virgin i'm gonna make you my girlfriend like we can we can
0.99
02:40:28.660
work towards something now i'm not like that a woman doesn't have to be a virgin for me but i don't
0.96
02:40:33.540
want her to have been around the block i don't want her to have had a whole bunch of casual sexual
0.98
02:40:38.500
encounters and that's understandable yeah yeah and that's you can totally have the preference of just
02:40:42.980
like have a normal amount of partners yeah but normal normal in today's day and age is like
02:40:49.700
by the time she's 21 she's slept with 10 plus guys i so i don't want normal and she lost her virginity
1.00
02:40:58.740
at 18 or younger typically younger it honestly depends on the state in the area yeah i was gonna
02:41:05.940
say like 90 of the girls in my area in san diego in my vista area i don't it's in yeah that's a city
0.99
02:41:14.820
in san diego okay is what they're just trad wives is that what you're saying no they're california is
1.00
02:41:22.660
pretty degenerate when it comes to sex so i'm assuming that like probably are you saying women
1.00
02:41:29.860
in your area have a low body count in san diego saying it was like super liberal progressive i don't
02:41:35.620
know about that but we aren't a lot of madison's from wait it's facts yeah you're from san diego okay
02:41:43.620
where are you from i'll tell you after heard also men just biologically are attracted to women who
02:41:53.220
are not promiscuous so virgin is like the epitome of non-promiscuity do you disagree that men are not
02:42:01.380
don't have that are men are not biologically attracted to non-promiscuous women i'm not disagreeing
02:42:08.980
with that i think it's definitely like a possible thing but i've also met men that
02:42:15.940
are remember remember the conversation we had earlier when we were talking about sexual competition
02:42:20.260
and how we evolved to be monogamous because of our polygamous past so it speaks to that so if men
0.84
02:42:26.900
develop spurn competition that mean men were fucking the same woman all throughout our evolutionary history
0.87
02:42:32.580
and those men couldn't tell who the child's father was paternity uncertainty which means one way to
0.98
02:42:39.780
combat that is to simply have a virgin but that's the scientific explanation for why we're repulsed by
02:42:44.980
women who are promiscuous because we have that same wiring in our brain that that evolved that was passed
1.00
02:42:50.980
down we have that same repulsivity that same repugnance for a promiscuous woman because it signals to us
1.00
02:42:57.300
this woman could have us taking care of another man's child and that's disrespectful to a man
1.00
02:43:02.660
unknowingly for him to be taking care of another man's child it's not just disrespectful it is the
02:43:06.900
biggest l of betrayal yeah like to raise to think the child is yours think you've passed on your genes
02:43:14.660
but in actuality this chick is essential could essentially be stealing away your lineage that's
1.00
02:43:21.540
the biggest fucking l a guy can take in life is raising a child you that he thinks is his that
0.98
02:43:28.020
actually isn't doing everything you can to provide protect provision for a child that's not that's why
0.99
02:43:34.180
men care more about this because as as women if you have a kid in all situations you know the kid's
02:43:40.580
yours it could be from this guy from that guy from this guy you know with certainty it's yours because
02:43:45.940
that comes with the fact that you're the ones who actually birth the children however as guys
02:43:51.220
there's not really a way for us to 100 percent know at all so one of the big ways we can look at
02:43:57.540
that and this is just comes down this is just in in the same way that why are women attracted to tall
1.00
02:44:02.100
guys i mean you like a taller bigger guys more capable of physically protecting you a woman who's
0.71
02:44:08.180
promiscuous is more likely to essentially be cucking you that's also why we get jealous as well a lot of
0.95
02:44:15.220
people think jealous i mean essentially jealousy is a byproduct of us deterring potential threats to
02:44:22.660
our woman we get jealous at any perceived threat because of course that raises the risk of you
02:44:27.940
sleeping with him getting pregnant by him and then i'm raising another man's kid so it's better to just
02:44:32.260
deter that man through jealousy if a woman knows her man is jealous she's less inclined to cheat
0.99
02:44:37.060
not all the time because i have experiences where i had really jealous boyfriends and they cheated
02:44:47.940
yeah well i'm i'm talking about why jealousy exists it don't have to be all the time but in general like
02:44:52.740
this is what's been measured and this is what's been found scientifically that's that's why jealous
02:44:56.900
that's why we get jealous essentially okay yeah here let me get a couple chats here we have
02:45:01.140
oh wait did i read i don't know yo thank you cheeks when i go to strip clubs i go to look at
02:45:07.700
the menu for the food ignore the waitresses and dancers and thoroughly enjoy what type of dressing they
02:45:13.060
put in the salad bars never to seek attention there you have it real quick can everyone pull their
02:45:19.140
mics towards the end oh yeah the mics yeah yeah thank you thank you for thank you for pointing that
02:45:25.300
out nick we have stagner what makes a woman high value to a man looking for a partner is that she
1.00
02:45:32.020
acts and lives her life in a way that he trusts her to always make the right decision going to the club
02:45:37.380
does not affirm that well put snack stagner thank you man appreciate appreciate the chat we have uh
02:45:45.940
oh one thing on the club thing um related to what stagner was saying i mean i think the boundary as a
02:45:52.100
guy of not wanting to date a woman who goes to bars clubs and parties is a perfectly reasonable
1.00
02:45:57.220
dating standard for commitment minded men and i think it acts as a great filter against independent
02:46:04.340
women who think that they can kind of salute around toe around while having a stable dude as a safety net
1.00
02:46:12.580
like a lot of women claim that men are commitment phobic but when we say here's what we need
02:46:18.820
for you to secure our commitment you guys don't want to make a lot of compromises it seems so
0.97
02:46:27.380
that's one of the reasons i'm single you must be dealing with some pretty shitty women
1.00
02:46:31.940
it's women who stuck in their own head no i'm actually all most of the women i've dated were not
02:46:37.540
even before dating them they weren't going out to bars and clubs anyways so i i just because i it's it's
02:46:44.500
not even just like a standard or a boundary it's just a a mismatch of values like i don't go i rarely
02:46:52.660
drink i don't go to bars i don't go to clubs i don't go to parties so in addition to me just not
02:46:57.380
wanting it in a partner i don't do it myself so i feel like i wouldn't have a lot of a lot in common
02:47:03.300
with like give me a shy nerdy library chick or some i don't want i don't want the party girl
02:47:08.580
um so here we have a chat here from praxis brian i have excellent news you're a hypothyroid as it
0.72
02:47:16.660
means you're medically disqualified from joining any branch of the military in any capacity okay you
02:47:22.180
and anyone with health health issues like asthma hiv cancer is safe from the draft also warfare is good
02:47:27.860
for men uh i say competition i don't think warfare is good for men like
02:47:35.620
like all the vets that went to world war one and world war ii probably were not like yeah the
0.80
02:47:43.300
fucking glory of war like no trench foot chemical gas um actually do we have i don't know if we can
0.89
02:47:49.860
pull up photos of men who have been who suffered from like mustard gas and shit during world war ii but
0.99
02:47:56.180
uh trust me dude like there's no glory in in war um so yeah warfare is good for men
0.98
02:48:05.540
no dude warfare almost uh i mean look like being part of the military can instill discipline and
02:48:12.820
structure in your life and stuff but actual warfare that breaks men that breaks men so
02:48:21.700
uh jj supply and demand obesity is a problem in usa and hot girls are in low supply and in demand
0.89
02:48:28.900
the few who are attractive can get whatever they want from men with a little effort countries without
0.94
02:48:32.740
obesity issues have women who are multifaceted and hot because they have to compete for men
1.00
02:48:41.780
word thank you jj um oh that's not fair what do you mean let's fact check yeah i feel like that's
02:48:49.300
like kind of like fat shaming what do you what do you mean like is he saying that obese girls like
1.00
02:48:56.340
they don't get that they don't they're not considered hot and they're in low demand he's talking about his
02:49:03.860
own preferences oh wait what you said it was fat shaming yeah i did i thought he was saying like
02:49:12.820
obese women like they're in low supply or like it's like not not no hot girls are in low supply
1.00
02:49:21.380
in demand because obesity is a problem in america is what he's saying wait let me ask you guys a
02:49:26.820
question would you object what's the problem like if you just because it's unhealthy a woman
1.00
02:49:32.500
well i mean if a man wants that yeah but let me let me ask you guys a question bbw is the most looked
02:49:37.300
up in porn i thought it was lesbians but it it doesn't mean that they're not gonna die earlier from
1.00
02:49:44.100
like heart failure and also i feel like that's a fetish wait let me ask you a question would you
0.95
02:49:50.020
object to a guy not wanting to date a woman purely just on her being overweight do you object to that
02:49:58.660
do i object to a man not wanting to be with a woman not wanting to date a woman just because she's
02:50:04.740
overweight that's his choice but do you object to his choice that's his choice right but do you object
02:50:12.420
to that choice but that's his choice that's you're not answering my you can repeat yourself
02:50:18.580
but you're not answering my question do you think it's wrong like you can realize like who am i to
02:50:24.660
who the fuck am i to say you're wrong and right like but do you think he's shaming yeah do you think
0.91
02:50:36.980
okay i'm trying to think how i frame the question he doesn't like bigger girls and do you think that's
02:50:42.020
wrong in his right that's his own preference that he doesn't want bigger girls he has an opinion he's
02:50:51.940
he's okay to have that we'll come back to that donated two hundred dollars the whatever podcast
1.00
02:50:58.260
has been accused of making women look dumb but it is women who week after week volunteer their stupidity
1.00
02:51:04.900
today's feature is in green black and floral tops okay um do you guys want to fire back it
1.00
02:51:14.980
i mean they're the one who spent it's just another fucking loser behind a screen yes
0.99
02:51:26.100
okay shots fired um wait so okay we're considered dumb because we're sitting on this podcast no
0.99
02:51:32.980
don't worry about it okay so yeah you can't take it though all right they're just mad because they're not here
02:51:37.940
super super super mad um do you think it's like superficial or shallow or wrong or any any sort of
02:51:50.340
way for a guy i just think that it was a little like unfair no no forget the chat i'm asking you a
02:51:56.180
question related to the chat but do you think it's wrong for a guy to not want to date she could
02:52:02.340
let's say she's a fantastic woman would you object to a guy not wanting to date a woman who's overweight
1.00
02:52:17.380
you can answer the question go ahead i wouldn't think it's fair say with your chest what i wouldn't
02:52:23.540
think it's you would you wouldn't think it's fair but we're we're in dating this fairness exists
02:52:28.020
we're in attraction does fairness but like what if she was like um what you guys were talking about
0.94
02:52:33.540
like like a virgin and like all these other things but she's just overweight the number one factor that
1.00
02:52:38.660
could be changed though like that yeah but work on that yeah you can but the number one factor in
02:52:44.020
attraction as men like a health condition what if she has like their thyroid problems or something like
0.99
02:52:49.940
that and she just like that that does bother you then that doesn't that but look let me let me
1.00
02:52:55.060
that doesn't change the visceral response we have to seeing a woman when we see a woman and a woman is
02:53:00.500
attractive subconsciously we have a response we release serotonin nor epinephrine these are responses
02:53:08.740
that we have to seeing women who are attractive if we don't get that response and it's because she's
0.98
02:53:13.620
overweight we don't get that response i agree and i'm not saying you know don't put your health and
02:53:20.100
make it like a priority but i was just saying like i just didn't think that that's fair that like
02:53:25.700
i just don't understand what preference is unfair yeah it's a preference like does anyone here before
02:53:31.060
i have anybody else come in does anybody agree with her anybody agree no do you agree nicole
0.93
02:53:40.100
anybody okay um wait hold on let me let me yeah how would you feel that wait if i was obese that
02:53:46.900
makes me unmarried or unmeritable no no i'm like unwifeable and no no i'm not high value just because
02:53:53.780
i'm overweight no what what we're saying is that men have a preference for slimmer bodies especially it
02:54:00.500
can be context specific because um weight is the one fee like the one factor that is variable cross-culturally
02:54:08.660
dependent on where you are so if you go somewhere where food is scarce women who are heavier would
1.00
02:54:13.940
probably be more desirable because it speaks to them being healthier but where food is abundant
02:54:18.740
you would like smaller women so in the west food is abundant we're we're overweight women are overweight
1.00
02:54:24.340
so that means they're consuming too much and not doing enough exercise but what we're saying and what
0.93
02:54:29.300
i'm saying is i just wanted to ask if your boyfriend was to cheat on you with a fat woman
1.00
02:54:34.260
how would that make you feel oh that would hurt my feelings that would hurt your feelings right
0.99
02:54:41.540
like not even just the cheating itself but the fact that it's a fat woman
1.00
02:54:45.300
would that would that just in general that i got cheated but wait because because women are women
1.00
02:54:53.380
engage in intersexual competition too so one of the things women will shame other women for is being fat
1.00
02:55:00.180
so that's why i said that women call each other whores they talk about how old they are and they
1.00
02:55:04.820
talk about being fat so you know that being fat is not inherently desirable to men you would feel
0.99
02:55:12.340
more offended if your guy cheated on you with a fat woman because you'd be like really like the
1.00
02:55:17.380
bitch is fat and i'm admitting to that but i'm not gonna sit here and like be mean to bigger women
1.00
02:55:23.060
or like bully them because that's just not in me i'm not i i like think all women are beautiful
1.00
02:55:28.580
i was just sticking up for that are all men beautiful yeah in their own way yes everyone
02:55:33.460
but are all men desirable are you physically somebody yes no but everybody is for somebody
02:55:39.460
i believe that i my question that i asked you was do you object to a guy not wanting to date a woman
02:55:45.860
because she's overweight and you said yes you do you would object to that you think it would be unfair
02:55:51.940
to judge a woman based on her weight however you wouldn't just date anybody would you no
02:55:58.580
i'm sure do you have criteria and standards and preferences are but are some of those physical
02:56:05.140
preferences that's what he thinks though no but you would object you said you'd object to it you think
02:56:10.100
it'd be unfair yeah but that's his own opinion that's what i'll tell you i'm five seven
02:56:17.060
would you date a guy who's shorter than you no but i have well yes so that's unfair yes that's
02:56:25.540
unfair that you and first and i would also point out height is totally out of a guy's control you
02:56:32.500
can't control your height as a guy as a woman or man you can control your weight so i would actually
02:56:38.500
argue it's much more it's much more unfair to judge a man by his height than to judge a woman by her
02:56:43.940
weight however it's totally cool women will actually insult short men they'll use it as an attack
1.00
02:56:51.940
uh they'll make tick tock videos saying you must be this tall to date me blah blah blah but if a man
02:56:58.500
were to say i wouldn't date a overweight woman there are men though that prefer that though yes there
0.98
02:57:06.020
are i would say most don't though and i'd say the men that prefer overweight women they do it out of
02:57:11.060
necessity because frankly they aren't capable of securing a partner who is more trim are you calling
02:57:17.620
them insecure no i'm not calling them insecure but like the reality is a lot of men date
02:57:23.540
necessitously is that even a word necessitously i don't know if that's a word you might have made
02:57:29.300
that one up they i might have made that one up they date out of like most men have very few options so
02:57:37.300
i think the saying goes i haven't i haven't used this one in a while um women date who they want men
0.59
02:57:43.620
men's well no it's women sleep who they women sleep with who they want men sleep with who they
0.99
02:57:48.580
can yes so if that's your only options is a look there's some men with fetishes that's fine those
02:57:54.180
are outliers the majority of men probably prefer prefer women with a healthy bmi and who are not
02:58:06.260
let me ask what's do you have a height minimum when it comes to who you date not a minimum but like i would
02:58:11.460
prefer somebody that's at least like my height five seven and above which i don't think is that
02:58:17.140
difficult how tall was your last boyfriend we were the same high five okay maybe he would have been
02:58:23.140
five eight right so the reality is most women would probably prefer to date a guy who's taller than them
02:58:30.900
nobody bats an eye at that but when a guy says i don't want to date a woman who's overweight
1.00
02:58:35.140
oh my god that's jamming insecure blah blah i didn't say he was insecure
02:58:39.700
you well okay you said you object to you said you object to a man not wanting to date a woman who's
02:58:46.340
overweight go ahead and i think it goes both ways too because when you are looking at a potential
02:58:51.860
partner that is overweight you got to think about when i have kids a it might be harder for them to
0.54
02:58:57.060
have kids b they could have develop heart issues like like heart's disease not to mention they have a
02:59:03.380
shorter overall lifespan so knowing that you're going to be getting into a relationship that's
02:59:08.260
the and that person might and probably is most likely going to die before you and you're going
02:59:14.740
to be alone with the kids why would you enter into a relationship knowing that those might be the terms
02:59:19.060
and costs because of weight okay if that's the argument then then the guy needs to be literally in the
02:59:25.620
gym every day he needs to be on top of his health also well then to be able to say that and then i would
02:59:31.380
be like okay that's valid because you take care of your health and you make that a priority then i'll respect
02:59:36.260
that but like just being like a big heavyset man and being like oh i'm not going to date somebody
02:59:40.740
that's big like what's like you have a lot of nerve i mean you make a fair point however i would argue
02:59:48.580
that a lot of women desire traits and men that they themselves do not possess for example for example a
02:59:55.460
lot of women want a guy who's funny are they funny themselves a lot of women want a guy who's tall
0.87
03:00:00.980
are they funny themselves a lot of women want a guy who's charismatic oh did i miss that yeah you
03:00:06.420
said funny oh sorry okay um a lot of girls want a guy who's super confident and has charisma
03:00:12.420
yet they're not charismatic or confident themselves a lot of women want a guy who's rich they're not
03:00:18.740
rich themselves so both men and women desire traits in a partner that they themselves do not necessarily
0.96
03:00:26.900
possess now i think i do think when it comes to your like if you're a fat dude
03:00:36.260
women are just women can also choose to not date an overweight dude that's totally fine that's totally
0.78
03:00:42.580
valid so yeah oh i thought there's gonna be a response okay oh can i say something oh yeah of course
03:00:53.220
course um i just you know i often hear women say things like it's not fair and i always say dating
03:00:59.540
is not fair attraction is not fair men and women are sexually dimorphic we have different mating
03:01:04.180
strategies we've evolved different sexual selection strategies and it's for the betterment of us pushing
03:01:10.740
along our lineage that's that's it you know it's just about what is most sustainable what is most
03:01:16.580
attractive to us that will allow us to have kids and their kids to have kids and their kids kids to have
03:01:21.700
kids that's simply what it is you know dating is competition and competition everybody can't win
03:01:27.380
and you said you think there's somebody for everybody i mean clearly that's not true that's
03:01:30.900
not the reality of how the world works because for one there's more no because how can there be when
03:01:37.540
how many people on this planet how can there be when there's a more women than men that's number one
1.00
03:01:46.260
every man is not desirable not even to there's a woman who's going to find you attractive
1.00
03:01:50.500
somewhere no a lot of these guys that you see in the chat and stuff like that they're all giga
03:01:54.580
chats all the chat the chat's giga chats they're all 10 out of 10s but the point is the point is
03:02:00.820
everybody's not going to find somebody for them that is like fairy tale utopian talk and if that was the
03:02:07.700
case the divorce rates wouldn't be as high as they are rejection wouldn't be as common as it is
03:02:15.060
men on tinder who can't get any type of swipes matches that wouldn't happen so dating is just
1.00
03:02:21.620
not fair it's not fair it's never going to be fair and the fact that we select each other on physical
03:02:26.180
qualities physical traits physical characteristics it serves a purpose it serves an evolutionary purpose
03:02:32.580
and women have to suck that up have to be okay with it because it's reality i would actually argue
1.00
03:02:37.940
women are far pickier when it comes to looks than men are
1.00
03:02:43.700
y'all are way more picky and selective when it comes to looks than men well i don't want an ugly baby
0.95
03:02:52.660
i think it kind of just makes sense no but like attraction for example like if you look at
0.91
03:02:58.180
i would argue that like women are far more superficial too when it comes to looks because
1.00
03:03:02.660
a lot of the things that you guys care about when it comes to looks are totally out of men's control
03:03:08.500
for example height 100 out of men's control and a lot of women here be sitting here wanting
1.00
03:03:15.620
guy who's six feet plus okay that's 15 of men cool you want you don't want a guy who's balding
03:03:22.340
most of you especially if you're young that's totally out of men's control if they start balding
0.99
03:03:28.340
early uh and then penis size totally out of men's control but y'all want a guy with a big dick
1.00
03:03:35.780
not all of you but the guy's lacking in the bulge a lot of women got a problem with that not all women
0.99
03:03:41.620
but so y'all will judge men very harshly on things that are totally out of men's control
03:03:46.660
but the one thing that we judge women harshly on weight is 100 in your control and also women
1.00
03:03:53.620
judge men on that too because there's plenty of fit women that would not be prepared to date a guy
1.00
03:03:57.940
who's obese so let's not kid that this is a one directional thing whereas when it comes to
03:04:02.340
balding height and penis size that's absolute men don't really discriminate like most men would
03:04:10.020
don't really care about a woman's height so i would argue that women care far more about physical looks
1.00
03:04:19.460
do you think it's just like a random question do you think that it's being more like judgmental
03:04:24.420
saying like um you know like i don't want to date somebody that's overweight or do you think it's
03:04:30.180
more judgmental to be like oh i don't want to date somebody that's a virgin
03:04:34.900
because that's not a virgin either that's not a virgin yeah what's not fair that like people think
03:04:40.260
that like or you guys were saying that like a high value woman is a virgin she doesn't need to be a
1.00
03:04:47.380
virgin but that would add to her a potential woman being it's a bonus you need not be also i don't
03:04:56.660
like the term like high value male high value woman it's just such this like nebulous vague term and
03:05:02.820
a lot of people like to claim i'm a high value male and it comes off as like kind of braggy and
03:05:07.940
i'm an alpha male that's just like that's just braggy i don't like that i'll say high quality yeah i
03:05:13.780
say quality i say quality but you think so you're saying that it's unfair to want a woman who's a
03:05:21.140
virgin no i was just asking if you thought which one yeah because you thought that i was being like
03:05:27.860
um like by me saying that it oh that's unfair that to call somebody or like to not want to date
03:05:35.380
somebody because they're overweight but i feel like aren't you also being judgy by saying like oh i
03:05:40.580
don't want to date somebody that's not a virgin well i didn't okay that's not my personal view it's
03:05:45.940
not i don't i don't want to exclusively i wasn't like that wasn't my personal view either of like
03:05:50.260
wanting to date somebody that was obese i was just saying like no i know i just didn't think that
03:05:54.180
those sort of not totally understanding what you're saying first off i don't exclusively date
03:05:58.900
women or who are virgins though i'm certainly not opposed to dating a woman who's a virgin would
0.92
03:06:03.380
it be my preference yes am i going to get it that suppose i suppose that depends on the woman
0.99
03:06:07.700
um what i would argue when it comes to body count or promiscuity is the lower bodies the better
03:06:17.140
in the same way that like the guy's bank account the like the more zeros after his you know in his
03:06:22.660
bank account the better be nice to date a millionaire might be nicer to date a billionaire whether you can
03:06:27.860
get it or not that's another thing but i mean i've dated women who are virgins so yeah but it's not
0.98
03:06:34.580
like i have to have like a i'll only date virgin women no indispensable characteristic it doesn't
1.00
03:06:40.020
have to be that but so are you saying that it's judgy to date to prefer want to or prefer a woman who
03:06:48.020
is a virgin is that what you're saying or yeah like does that is that like one character is it judgy
03:06:54.340
makes her more meritable or like makes her more it would it would make her more attractive
1.00
03:06:59.300
and yes i think it would make her a in the dating marketplace i would say it makes her higher value
0.65
03:07:08.100
so what's considered a high value like she has to be a virgin and no she doesn't have to be a virgin
1.00
03:07:13.700
in the same way that a woman who's like a 10 out of in the same way that a woman who's like a 10 out of
1.00
03:07:18.660
10 absolute beauty like would you everyone would prefer to get the most optimal partner they can whether
03:07:25.940
you can get it or not that's a different question but we all want the most optimal we want to make
03:07:32.980
the most optimal choices we can when it comes to who we date who we have relationships with who we
03:07:38.180
sleep with who we marry who we have kids with yeah we have a preference for optimality yeah like some
03:07:44.660
women might say well for example for you you would date a guy who's five seven but it might be a bit more
0.98
03:07:51.380
optimum for him to be five foot eight and it might be more optimum for him to be five nine five ten
03:07:56.740
five eleven six feet six one six two six three etc what would essentially maximize your attraction to
03:08:04.100
that partner just on a physical level because of course you can develop feelings for who he is this
03:08:09.780
person despite the fact that he's five seven and that can compensate for what he lacks in height
03:08:14.100
you know he can be more attractive and you can look at a six two guy boyfriend five seven you'd be
03:08:18.500
like i had a six two guy i don't he don't arouse me because i like everything about my five seven
03:08:21.940
boyfriend but fit like just on a physical scale we want to optimize our attraction to somebody and
03:08:28.180
typically those are physical characteristics so it's like i would prefer a guy who's six one
03:08:34.660
i would prefer a guy who makes six figures i would prefer a guy who has a six pack if i don't get him
03:08:40.820
yeah i'm i'm i can i'm malleable i can maybe shift a little bit but if it were up to me if i could create
03:08:47.380
the perfect guy what would your perfect guy look like and as and for men if he could create the
03:08:52.340
perfect woman she'd probably be a virgin that would a woman who's avert like there if a guy had an
1.00
03:08:59.700
option let's say everything else is equal but she's got a body count of 10 versus she's got a body count of
1.00
03:09:07.540
zero i think any sane man would prefer the the virgin in that situation
0.95
03:09:17.300
you guys disagree on that i mean why why would like even for eat and i'm not particularly inclined to
03:09:23.700
sleep with the girl just once or have a one-night stand with her but even for a one-night stand one-time
03:09:29.220
casual encounter i would always prefer to pick the girl who's a virgin over the girl who's slept with 50
03:09:34.980
dudes even when ostensibly the girl who slept with 50 men could give me a supposedly better sexual
0.99
03:09:43.460
experience as somebody know who knows how to lead in the bedroom like i'll take the virgin every single
0.96
03:09:50.740
time then why are men some men falling in love with strippers and like promiscuous women
03:09:59.620
probably i would call that love well like they build relationships with those women because we
1.00
03:10:08.100
have normalized this sort of degeneracy and men don't realize one that these types of women typically are
1.00
03:10:15.620
not do not make a for a good long-term partner uh their interest in them may be purely short-term or
03:10:23.220
purely sexual uh a lot of men you you will probably heard it from men themselves like yeah
03:10:30.260
we'll sleep with that girl but we'll never wife her up so but me personally i i wouldn't even want
1.00
03:10:36.420
to have casual sex with a girl that i couldn't see potentially yeah like i like oh she's she's
0.99
03:10:45.220
slutty so i'm just gonna sleep with her no i don't even want anything to do with a woman who's
1.00
03:10:49.700
slutty or has a high body count even if she's otherwise down to engage in uh easy sex that
1.00
03:10:56.260
doesn't interest me like i want to if i sleep with a girl i want there to be a continuity so there's
0.99
03:11:01.700
absolutely like there i don't want to get with a girl who's slutty or whatever okay i have a question
03:11:08.740
that correlates to that yeah because you just reminded me of sadia can i don't know if you guys
03:11:14.020
know her she's a psychologist that does she used to follow me we're gonna get her on the show yeah
03:11:17.860
we had a little falling out i really like value her and like all her points that she has to say
03:11:24.100
and it reminded me of this one podcast where she's like men claim they want like a high value woman and
1.00
03:11:32.260
like a good woman but all that they're really doing is spending time with promiscuous women like
1.00
03:11:38.020
following instagram models like favoring that so how do you guys as males explain that like men
03:11:45.540
wanting a good woman like she's saying but then ending up with promiscuous ones or following
0.97
03:11:50.820
instagram models engaging in promiscuous activity or that's that's a good question jude yeah i'll go
03:11:56.740
after i'll go ahead um the reason why is because we're still very visual creatures we're still emotional
03:12:02.500
beings we say all of these things on podcasts when we're actually out there in the real world when
03:12:08.340
we're scrolling social media when we see these women that natural innate reaction is oh she's attractive
1.00
03:12:14.740
these men aren't thinking about what what her wife qualities are like what her motherly qualities
0.99
03:12:20.260
are like and then a lot of these guys who sleep with these women they roll in the same circles they
03:12:25.460
engage in a lot of degenerate behavior themselves these are not these are not the cream of the crop men
03:12:29.860
in turn in terms of integrity and values and things like that so they're just as as compromised as the
03:12:36.180
women that they're getting with these women that they're sleeping with and that's essentially what it
0.99
03:12:40.180
boils down to see a lot of these guys they talk about these things as if they're pure themselves
03:12:45.700
and they're simply not it is that it's the visceral response to seeing a woman that you find attractive
03:12:50.820
physically whether on social media or in the strip club or whatever the case may be whether she got
0.99
03:12:55.780
shit done to her ass or titties whatever is that it's the attraction and then it's the fact that
1.00
03:13:00.820
these men aren't the cream of the crop high value men that they actually claim to be in terms of their
1.00
03:13:07.620
character yeah cute uh and let me just i just want to add on to that q absolutely hit the nail on the
03:13:13.940
head uh a lot of these dudes are absolutely degenerate and granted men are very visual creatures and i think
03:13:22.900
some of the issues that we're seeing in society certainly i mean we have we have agency and we have
03:13:28.820
autonomy so we have some blame on the individual level but like you know these social media platforms
03:13:34.660
are very i mean there's algorithms and you know there's something to be said of you know we we have
03:13:41.300
not evolved to be able to handle this sort of information and stimulation overload and uh i mean try
03:13:50.980
reading a book after you've just scrolled on tick tock for two hours i mean we're we're rewiring our
03:13:56.420
brains to get these dopamine hits and i agree with you what you said earlier porn is not good for men
03:14:04.100
um and me personally i and i'd recommend this to other men like i don't follow i have my personal
03:14:10.260
instagram i'm not really big on social media if i wasn't doing what i was doing like this youtube
03:14:15.860
shit i probably wouldn't even have instagram twitter any of this shit i'm just doing it for my business
0.97
03:14:20.420
but i don't follow any chicks i'm not like liking chicks photos i think it's a big fucking l as a dude
0.99
03:14:28.020
to be liking random chicks photos like instagram models whatever um if like what it's just to me
03:14:36.820
that's just weird so i follow one account on my personal instagram that's my business account that's it
03:14:41.620
i'm not checking out chicks photos like i'm not looking at photos if i'm in a relationship granted if i'm
03:14:47.940
if i'm single uh sometimes listen you got you need a release if it's whatever but in a relationship
0.97
03:14:54.100
i don't watch porn um ever like i'm i'm gonna get my sexual satisfaction just from my girl don't watch
0.99
03:15:04.500
porn plus it fucks you up too if you're watching porn especially in a relationship um and uh yeah so i
0.99
03:15:11.460
think men should definitely try to pull back from porn and certainly bro it's fucking simp
1.00
03:15:15.220
shit to be liking girls photos they already get like come on bro you're already gassing them
0.99
03:15:20.260
them up enough simps have destroyed dating uh you're gassing up these chicks so yeah i don't think dude
1.00
03:15:25.540
should be liking and following all these girls so yeah i agree unless they actually have like a real
1.00
03:15:31.700
life chance of yes this is the point but they don't and it makes a girl look dumb they don't is the
1.00
03:15:37.860
thing um so yeah did you have anything else q or no no you no you good okay you said everything
03:15:45.620
oh we have it we have a chat here and i'm gonna finally get into some of my questions for the panel
03:15:49.460
um oh the this one from high value high value you wanted us to rate everyone everyone so going
03:15:56.900
around the table would you rate your looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead
03:16:02.340
ten ten five five five and a half eight and a half ten ten six point five i'm gonna go with a six
03:16:15.460
today okay i used to say i was a six but i've gained a little bit of weight so i'm a five i'm a five so
03:16:22.740
wait ten ten ten don't take this the wrong way um there's no tens at this table you guys are not tens
03:16:37.940
i think and who are you to say that oh i said i'm a five i don't think i'm like
03:16:44.980
super attractive or anything like i'm a little bit chubby right now i need to lose some weight
0.94
03:16:48.900
um pale as fuck getting old what makes her not i just want to know what makes her not a ten like
0.99
03:16:55.540
i just want to know what is a ten like what is considered a ten it's personal preference yeah
0.99
03:17:00.820
i think beauty is in the eyes of the beholder no but what is makes a ten what makes her not a ten
03:17:07.860
objectively it doesn't exist if you ask me i don't think there's such like there's nines and
03:17:12.180
shit but but you also asked us our opinions so if you can't answer that what makes her not how are we
0.60
03:17:17.140
wrong how it's hard for you want me to like do an analysis of her like facial features and jaw
1.00
03:17:23.380
structure like i'm not going to actually articulate the ways in which she is or isn't a ten so what
03:17:28.260
makes a ten then if you don't you don't have to do it on her just in general what makes a ten
03:17:34.020
i'm not saying she's not i'm not saying you guys are not attractive in your eyes i'm not saying you
03:17:39.380
guys are not attractive women but you're not saying your tens puts you on par with among the most
0.98
03:17:44.660
beautiful hold on let me finish saying you're a ten puts you're saying that that puts you on par
03:17:50.340
with the most beautiful women in the world like where's the modeling contracts maybe you have
1.00
03:17:55.700
them look granted you're an attractive woman you got pretty eyes cool good for you but there's no
1.00
03:18:01.140
tens at this table but that's your opinion it's not my okay here maybe i should ask a different
03:18:06.900
question it's an opinion it's not no but there's an objective component to beauty
03:18:10.660
he's right for example if you were a ten none you would not need to be to wear makeup if you were
0.93
03:18:18.580
actually a ten granted and again i you've been invited on to a pub public platform so i'm not
03:18:25.860
saying oh like you shouldn't be wearing makeup right now but like if you were a ten would you need to wear
03:18:32.820
makeup most of the tens do models yeah most of them do they actually are required to for shoots
03:18:41.700
i mean i could articulate in other ways but i don't really feel the need to actually articulate
03:18:47.540
the reasons why you're not tens i feel like that might be offensive so are you saying to be a ten
03:18:53.060
you have to be a model because that's what you said we're talking about your looks your physical
03:18:57.860
beauty yeah so by you saying you asked us what we thought about ourselves so how is that no but
03:19:03.940
like there's your self-perception does not determine the reality or how other people see you in the
03:19:14.340
world basically in the eye of the beholder do you think all women are tens no do you think all okay
1.00
03:19:23.220
well i'm also not attracted to women so like okay um let me ask you a question can you can you think
03:19:32.100
in your mind right now of a guy who you think is unattractive yeah okay can you think of a guy who
0.98
03:19:39.460
you've ever encountered who thinks he's hot shit but isn't oh yeah okay now what if that guy who you
0.99
03:19:47.060
think is a five or a six and looks said he was a ten well then that's his opinion like but
1.00
03:19:53.060
is he i might not agree but is he wrong some other girl might think he's a ten yeah i mean
03:20:01.460
how different countries have like their different preferences for like beauties too oh yeah like a
1.00
03:20:05.940
preference for beauty like depends on different chimp heart walmart donated 200 every person has a
03:20:12.500
universal attractiveness score if everyone on the planet rated everyone yes there is personal preference
03:20:19.700
a universal seven can be a nine to someone but they are still a seven on the market
03:20:26.020
i mean a better question go ahead i'm sorry i was just gonna say that like from like a scientific
03:20:31.060
standpoint there's like like you said like orders to everything so for instance like acne sun scars
03:20:38.100
sun marks moles that can all be like factored in and like you said there is no really like standard but
03:20:44.660
let's be so for real if any of us were a 10 we'd be on miss universe or like miss america or whatever
03:20:50.500
that pageant show is where they like do like the most attractive like female beauty pageant thing i
1.00
03:20:57.620
don't know what it's called yeah like so you know there are ubiquitous markers of attraction it's been studied
03:21:05.460
across 37 countries six continents when you if i take any of you and show you to different cultures
03:21:14.100
of guys yeah there will be like an average of what you will get a rating for and that's more what we
03:21:20.820
mean when they ask these questions they're basically trying to highlight how delusional you think you are
03:21:25.940
so that's that's no essentially that's that's why they ask the question they want to know how delusional
0.99
03:21:30.580
do you believe that you are well if you don't fuck with yourself then who would yeah it's like
0.86
03:21:35.220
early why do you expect people you know what i mean but like what's wrong with like finding yourself
0.99
03:21:40.260
attractive nothing but wouldn't you think yeah if you're even if you don't think you're that
03:21:44.580
attractive confidence is truly knowing that and being okay with that as opposed to yep saying i'm a 10
03:21:52.260
like objectively i'm more attractive than when i rate myself because women rate me higher but i really
03:21:57.620
think i'm like a 6.5 women rate me higher than that grid one motorsports donated 200 if any of you
0.99
03:22:05.620
were tens you would not be single and having men run away from you or use you for watch sales your
03:22:11.060
sexual marketplace value would be very high please less delusion more reality respectfully i'd love to
0.98
03:22:19.460
see what you look like and your height and your penis size everything give us your tax returns give us
0.97
03:22:26.260
your bank statements first off respectfully thank you do like you do realize that he's not claiming
0.96
03:22:33.460
that he's some like super physically attractive guy like you can still have an assessment over
03:22:40.420
someone's level of the falsity of their own self-assessment when it comes to their physical
03:22:46.020
attractiveness without you yourself being attractive like it's not like oh you must be brad pitt in his
03:22:53.220
youth to be able to to excuse me to be able to determine if a woman is attractive or isn't
03:22:59.700
attractive yeah but it's about his negativity because like that's okay then all right yeah
03:23:05.940
at home that's fine but it's not about yeah okay so you rate yourself a 10 so what do you think someone
03:23:13.060
else would rate you uh again beauty is in the eyes of the beholder like i think that's the one that is the
03:23:20.180
question i don't know it depends i mean i think you know where you fall some people might some
03:23:26.900
people are you being honest with yourself though some people might rate me like a seven some people
03:23:32.900
might rate me an eight some people might rate me nine ten maybe someone might rate me four okay but
03:23:38.660
do do you wake up every day look in the mirror and is like damn i'm a 10 yeah are you honestly are
0.56
03:23:45.300
you just saying like i'm a 10 i honestly do and i'm gonna tell you why yeah it's because i think
03:23:51.060
for you to attract the opportunities you want in your life and for you to attract it attract optimal
03:23:57.620
respect and love and positive experiences you have to respect and love yourself yeah that's where it
03:24:03.700
starts and i think that's just delusion though yeah you can absolutely respect and love yourself but
03:24:09.620
no you're not a 10 good it's no no this is like the body positivity movement this is why it's terrible
03:24:16.260
it's making people delusional it's the yes queen and it's just like it doesn't work it doesn't make
03:24:21.380
sense you have to know your flaws you have to know what you need to work on it's it's delusion are you
03:24:25.940
talking about character or talking about your appearance your look everything well what like tell
03:24:30.820
me what's wrong with me then because like i i like the way i look well i didn't say i didn't say
03:24:35.780
there's anything wrong with you i'm just saying that you have to be honest with yourself and you
03:24:39.700
need to know what you need to work on and by you saying you're perfect you're delusional i'm not
03:24:44.740
saying i'm perfect because you did you said you're a 10 well being a 10 i find myself a 10 i like the way
03:24:50.900
i look okay well you need to be real with yourself there's being a 10 is perfect there's nothing wrong
03:24:57.060
with not being a 10 like you're not say what then say what's wrong with her because you're saying
03:25:01.140
she needs to be real with herself yeah explain why she's not a 10 i mean i might not be a 10 to
03:25:06.740
you and that's totally fine well i want to hear what she has to say about it's not even about what's
03:25:10.900
wrong with you personally and your appearance it's that you're you're delusional you need to
0.84
03:25:14.980
understand why she just called me delusional i could give you one wait you just said delude being
03:25:19.780
delusional is good though i can give you one answer you're you're short that's a reason why
03:25:25.860
you're not a 10. wait hold on as somebody who likes short women i object to that statement
0.98
03:25:36.500
to another person you can be a 10. go ahead sorry but when it comes to height so in order to even be
03:25:41.700
like a model supermodel any of that there is a minimum height requirement exactly no but okay
03:25:46.500
first off a lot of these models are like way thin and like interacts but okay we're using
03:25:51.860
why are we comparing the models because you said you were a 10 and models are typically tens
03:26:01.620
i mean i think it's subjective it's i think that anyone should love themselves for the parts that
03:26:07.460
they can't control i don't think obese like we were saying i don't think obesity and this whole american
03:26:14.580
culture supporting it is healthy because those are things you can't control but i think that people
03:26:20.020
should love the parts of themselves that they can't control because yesterday i was walking on
0.97
03:26:24.420
the street and some girl just decided to be like girl you have no ass and like me i know i have a
1.00
03:26:30.260
fucking ass like i work out all the time wait wait wait hold on wait should we get a little preview
1.00
03:26:34.180
like just so because i'm walking back to my house and she says it's not fucked up and you know why because
1.00
03:26:41.540
she wakes up in the fucking morning she hates herself and she goes out there and hates on other people
0.98
03:26:46.900
the way people treat other people and speak to other people speaks about how they feel about
1.00
03:26:52.100
themselves did she have an ass wait can we want you what because my point is she wakes up in the
1.00
03:26:58.740
fucking show us do you want to show us what show show what my ass i guess no because i know i have an
1.00
03:27:08.020
ass okay all right yeah anyways she woke up and she chose violence me i was about to choose
1.00
03:27:14.500
fucking violence i was so close to my car i was about to run into my house grab my fucking keys
1.00
03:27:20.180
chase her down and like speak my shit or maybe even like i should have just kidding i didn't because
1.00
03:27:25.860
i chose peace was she drunk i don't know maybe that seems like something something she was she was
0.98
03:27:31.540
driving her car and okay that's not i mean that's wrong and my point is for like the part and respectfully
03:27:38.820
she was what you would consider probably mid the girl in white has the face of the catcher's mitt
1.00
03:27:47.540
i can already envision what she's going to look like when she's 40. you're a 4.5 at best but i'm
03:27:54.340
gonna knock you down to a three due to genital herpes bro what no because i walked in and i thought
03:28:01.620
i mean other way not everyone has good taste i think you're really pretty by the way i just
03:28:07.460
want to say that you too i do think you're pretty okay look it's just to consider yourself a 10
03:28:14.580
it's it's delusional it's delusional you know what it is when you think you're a 10
03:28:22.260
and why did you ask our opinions of ourselves he didn't it was when you think you're a 10 he did you
03:28:28.500
walk like a 10 and you believe like you're a 10 and using yourself in the mirror and you say i'm
03:28:35.380
a 10 and you start to being socialized as a 10. like you start walking into places and rooms and like
03:28:43.460
you project that energy and people react to that energy and treat you accordingly hell yes i think
03:28:49.460
that whole thing until you make it is just no i think that's true i think thoughts are very powerful
03:28:55.060
and how we treat ourselves yeah you should have and also you take care of yourself like a 10
03:28:59.620
you should obviously have positive feelings about yourself you're not gonna eat the junk food you're
03:29:04.580
gonna go to the gym operating you can still be operating in reality and be like yeah i'm not the
03:29:11.780
among the most beautiful people in the world but i still love myself and i'm still a good person
03:29:17.460
you need not be delusional to have positive feelings towards yourself like i'm not gonna sit
03:29:24.980
here and say like i am the most intellectual per i'm a 10 out of 10 in intellect no i'm not i'm not a
03:29:31.780
10 out of 10 in my ability to articulate points sometimes i stutter english is my second language
03:29:37.380
like i see my own faults i try to work on them but i'm not gonna be like yeah i'm a 10 out of 10 podcast
03:29:43.300
toast no i fuck this shit up half the time it's cool it's okay i still do the show like it's all
0.94
03:29:50.820
right um i try to work on it but obviously we're talking about something very different here we're
0.98
03:29:54.580
talking about looks um like it's just like just the confident thing would be to say i'm a five and i
03:30:05.060
accept that i'm a six i'm a seven and i accept that i'm cool with that i don't have a perfect xyz
03:30:11.140
uh what you know whatever it might be so um yeah
03:30:23.540
anything else you guys want anything else on that i don't know i think i think i think we're mixing
03:30:28.740
up i mean it's fine to be confident but you have to be able to go home at the end of the day and
03:30:33.060
understand there's things you need to work on like it's totally not you can portray confidence out in
03:30:37.300
public but you don't go around and say you're a 10 and then believe it like yeah let me read the
03:30:42.420
definition of delusional characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality
03:30:50.740
that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary typically as a symptom of a mental
03:30:57.860
condition okay or having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions based on or having faulty judgment
03:31:05.380
mistaken so yeah don't care that i mean that's fine but like no because i'm not saying you guys are
03:31:15.940
not attractive women okay you can say i'm delusional whatever but it has bring me nothing but positive
1.00
03:31:22.100
experiences i would actually argue so what's what you i'm not changing my ways you're stuck with yourself
03:31:27.860
forever but i'm not saying you guys i'm not saying you guys get like down on yourselves and just like
03:31:32.980
sob in the mirror all day because of your physical appearance i'm not saying that obviously live your
03:31:38.260
life in a positive way and move through the world in a positive way but like a lot of people when it
03:31:46.900
comes to dating right i would argue that men value modesty in women far more than the reverse like i think
03:31:55.620
men maybe have a little bit more room because women value confidence men don't really value confidence in
0.92
03:32:00.660
women um but modesty is a very attractive trade in women and if you're not modest and you think
0.98
03:32:09.300
you're hot like we don't want girls with big egos and i think girls don't want men with big egos either
1.00
03:32:14.500
one motorsports donated two hundred dollars it is beyond hilarious to listen to the feminist talk about
1.00
03:32:21.220
seeing themselves as a 10 delusion is not reality feminism has failed you how can the patriarchy save
1.00
03:32:28.820
your miserable existence today yeah thank you grid one motorsports uh cheers to you um i think what i
03:32:37.460
was trying to say was is that should i lost my train of thought um what i was trying to say was
0.91
03:32:45.460
holy shit i actually totally lost my train of thought did anybody have a response to what i was saying i
0.94
03:32:50.100
forgot no oh men valuing modesty yeah like it's not attractive to date a girl with a big ego
0.99
03:32:58.820
like we want a girl who's modest and like i'm fucking hot shit can't tell me nothing i mean did
0.99
03:33:06.820
you want us to say that word twos would that no no but like okay saying i think they want you to be
0.99
03:33:11.860
honest there's a difference between confidence and cockiness though and you just ask us what we think
03:33:16.180
about ourselves we're not saying that that's what the world thinks of us like objectively we're saying
03:33:24.180
what we think of us because we were asked to rate ourselves one to ten right but it's it's like a
03:33:29.540
modesty check this question and and i think men use that to humble woman and there's i feel like
03:33:38.740
there's men out there they feel the need to humble woman because they cannot have they cannot access to
03:33:44.420
women you know men who you know don't have experiences with women and you know have to subscribe to only
03:33:50.020
fans and or have to go to my comments and remind me of how bad i'm gonna end up in you know i'm gonna
03:33:58.020
end up single with cats whatever um it's because mainly they don't have access to women like they
03:34:04.580
in the day-to-day they don't get dates or like they don't get you know like they're not desirable in
03:34:11.620
the dating market and i don't give a if you're trying to humble me i'm just gonna do me and if
03:34:19.700
it that bothers you then just do you think people shouldn't be humble no why no no because like
03:34:27.620
seriously i think the reason men are trying so hard to humble women it's because they cannot have access
03:34:35.620
to them wait you're nick please pay attention because i'm not looking at the screen you're
03:34:40.820
like hiding behind your microphone can you please scoot it closer to you and like no no scoot the
03:34:46.100
microphone close to you and you're like this is what you're doing do you see this you're like oh you're
03:34:51.140
hot we okay go ahead am i good yes go ahead um yeah there's no need to humble woman just level up
1.00
03:34:57.380
as a man like if you're not desirable in the market you know um and you don't get dates it's not a
03:35:03.860
woman's issue is your well i think there's there's it's a two-pronged issue so men obviously need to
1.00
03:35:10.180
level up in various ways but like as a woman and actually we have some of your videos that we're
0.59
03:35:16.180
going to react to if you're delusional and you think you deserve the world just by
03:35:24.420
virtue of being a woman and you deserve a guy who's six feet makes this much money i don't think i deserve
0.99
03:35:30.660
it but what do you mean i will attract it okay well i don't think i deserve it just because i am a
03:35:38.020
woman but i know what i'm bringing to the table and i i'm expected the same okay well well you said
03:35:46.740
you know you you know what you're bringing to the table yeah since you know what it is what what are
03:35:50.980
you bringing to the table well i'm a good woman okay i'm religious christian um i don't go out
03:35:57.140
actually um like clubs and stuff i've had i have okay i've went out you know when i was younger like
03:36:03.940
18 19 i'm 24 now i'm over it um i'm a homebody um yeah i had literally like two serious relationship
03:36:14.900
i've dated but i've saved myself because i come from a household where you know um i my father always you
03:36:22.500
know told me like not to engage with men you know sexually and all that stuff oh so are you you're
03:36:27.300
a virgin no i'm not a virgin oh not at all okay but you know misheard i've went you know i've been
03:36:33.300
how do you say celibacy celibate celibate i've been celibate for three years like from when i was 19 to 23
03:36:40.260
like something like that to the right like this yeah um wait you were in a and you're relate you
03:36:49.140
said your relationship just ended two months ago but yeah you're in a two-year relationship yes i was
03:36:54.900
22 about to be 23 something like that and you've been celibate no no no no no well you said maybe i'm
03:37:02.020
mixing this up but i was celibate for three years and i took that decision i didn't want to you know
03:37:07.540
have no intimacy with anybody i wanted your boyfriend i wanted to like know what i wanted
03:37:13.540
out of a relationship and i think especially younger women don't be so quick to jump into like
1.00
03:37:20.260
engaging in sexual activity why because you're not ready yet like that like you need to have your
0.57
03:37:27.380
moment i feel i you have to have your moment right you have to get to know yourself and what you want
03:37:34.820
in relationships with men and don't make so much so many sacrifices and i think that's why men
03:37:41.460
especially older men tend to go to you know for younger women is because they don't have
0.99
03:37:46.660
like they don't know how to say no you know they don't have the standards and their boundaries set up
03:37:51.380
yet so um yeah as especially younger women just you know like save yourself and i'm i'm all about
0.97
03:37:58.900
saving myself and you know older men older men are attracted to younger women because younger
0.94
03:38:03.780
women are more physically attractive no it's because they're more pleasant they're more
1.00
03:38:07.700
physically attractive they have a low lower body count they have less past relationship trauma and
03:38:12.900
baggage they're more capable they're more fertile they're more capable of
03:38:18.260
they have higher fecundity okay then that you should be okay with the fact that women want
1.00
03:38:24.420
provider men and want successful men they do i totally accept that okay that's totally fine i'm just a
03:38:32.660
a little curious though you said you've been celibate for three years but you were just in a
03:38:35.620
two-year relationship so were you not i was younger like i started like 18 19 like i don't really
03:38:41.300
remember but i took the decision of like being celibate so you were not having intimacy so you're the
03:38:47.700
two-year relationship i was active yeah with my partner bro this is why you no i think you're saying
03:38:54.900
from age 19 to 22 you were celibate for those three years yeah oh i thought you said you were
03:38:59.460
okay yeah yeah no she's saying she's saying from 19 to 22 she was celibate for three years and then
03:39:04.020
she got a two-year relationship okay okay two hundred dollars this panel gives credence to the
03:39:09.940
saying if it floats fly a sore porks rent it the only person that will win in your future reality and
03:39:17.220
shy ops are the divorce attorneys level up not with your attitude oh okay all right here look um
03:39:24.500
here i'll just try to articulate why i think it's important look you guys want to keep thinking
03:39:31.940
you're tens that's totally fine i just think and a lot of women come on the show and look you guys
03:39:36.740
are attractive girls but a lot of women come on the show who are clearly not tens in physical
1.00
03:39:41.700
appearance and think they are tens in physical appearance if you're so gassed up by all the guys
03:39:47.220
hitting on you and all the attention you get on dating apps and all your girlfriends oh my god you're
03:39:52.100
so fucking slay queen and your instagram comments you're going to start being gassed up and thinking
1.00
03:39:59.780
you're hot shit when you're not i'm sure you all know a dude who thinks he's hot shit and you're like
1.00
03:40:05.060
bro this guy needs some fucking humble pie he's not all that so when you think you're really hot
1.00
03:40:11.860
you're gonna think you deserve a certain caliber of guy and here's where women get into trouble
1.00
03:40:18.100
if you think you're 10 you're gonna demand a man who's a 10 whether that manifests itself in his
03:40:22.820
looks his status his money whatever it is his charisma his personality the reality is most women are
1.00
03:40:28.740
average most men are average average people ought to pair up with average people reality is though
03:40:34.740
is and what i see in the dating marketplace a lot of women who are average don't want average men
1.00
03:40:41.380
you're all chasing after the top caliber of god caliber of dudes these dudes might happily
0.97
03:40:46.260
fuck you and sleep with you and string you along keep you in a friends with benefit situation you're
1.00
03:40:51.940
not going to get commitment from a lot of these dudes so what ends up let me just finish so what ends up
1.00
03:40:56.980
happening is that if you don't have an accurate self-assessment of where you land in the dating
03:41:01.860
marketplace you're going to be chasing after a caliber of guy that will never give you commitment but
1.00
03:41:06.340
you're going to get all caught up because that guy's going to string you along and fuck you and
0.99
03:41:10.260
never give you commitment that's why all these girls end up in situationships friends with benefits
1.00
03:41:15.300
six months no commitment and that's because those guys are happy to sleep with you because men and
0.51
03:41:21.620
women value different things men will happily sleep with you string you along they will never give
1.00
03:41:26.740
you commitment they will never give you a ring so maybe you're fine with that a lot of women would
1.00
03:41:32.500
prefer the divided attention of a really high status dude than the commitment and full of
03:41:37.140
attention of a guy who's you view as below you but who's actually on your level who's your looks
03:41:42.900
equivalent who's your status equivalent so if you're chasing if all these women are you mentioned
0.95
03:41:47.300
hypergamy at the beginning of the show if all these women are chasing after the top 10 percent of men
0.85
03:41:51.540
these top 10 percent of men are not going to commit they're not going to settle for you the thing is
03:41:57.940
right women can sleep with average women we get women on the show who are 19 20 college girls thousand
1.00
03:42:04.900
followers on instagram they're fucking nfl players they're fucking nba players men who are at the top
0.99
03:42:10.500
echelons of the dating market who are the most attractive who are wealthy who have status etc
1.00
03:42:17.620
how are you going to date how you can be 19 years old and fuck with an nfl player who's making
03:42:22.660
millions of dollars millions of dollars a year who's in incredible shape and then go back to your
0.97
03:42:28.900
to date a 19 year old college boy who's on your level who will give you commitment it's going to
03:42:34.340
be really hard the lifestyle differential there is going to be very difficult the other thing is
03:42:39.940
so typically for a girl to sleep with a guy that guy needs to be at least attractive enough
1.00
03:42:46.340
for that girl to be in a relationship with that guy for you to sleep with the guy he has to at least
1.00
03:42:50.420
be attractive enough for you to consider being in a relationship but it's totally the reverse for
03:42:54.660
men men will gladly sleep with women and this is just based on their physical attractiveness alone
0.81
03:43:00.340
we'll sleep with the girl but we would just based on her physical attractiveness we'll
1.00
03:43:04.500
never be in a relationship with her but we welcome sex we welcome sex so
0.98
03:43:10.900
because of that women can secure sex from men that are more attractive than them whether that's looks
0.99
03:43:16.900
status uh income wealth whatever you think that that's your level you think that that's your league
03:43:25.060
but the reality is no that guy was never going to get commitment from you your league is the guys who
03:43:30.580
are prepared to commit to you be in relationships with you being monogamous with you and give you a
0.93
03:43:35.140
ring it's not the dude who's willing to fuck you so that's why it's very very very important for
0.93
03:43:40.100
women to have an accurate self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness otherwise y'all
1.00
03:43:44.260
going to be fucking dudes that are out frankly out of your league and then you're going to look
0.96
03:43:49.540
at the guy who's actually on your league who's actually excuse me who's actually in your league
0.99
03:43:54.500
who's on your level who will give you commitment you're going to think you're settling for him
03:43:58.500
and maybe you eventually do and then you're resentful of him the entire relationship even though this guy
03:44:04.260
is on your on your level a lot of dudes excuse me a lot of women look at men who are actually on
1.00
03:44:11.380
their level and think no actually he's not he's not at the same attractiveness level as me
03:44:17.300
and then they curve them and then they wonder by the time they're 30 where are all the good
0.89
03:44:21.620
men oh you curve them in your 20s when you're fucking nfl players and nba players and all this
0.98
03:44:25.620
shit i just want to clarify that i'm not i don't go ahead and look for millionaires and billionaires and
0.99
03:44:33.220
i don't teach that to women i teach them like to like attract providers okay that's what i'm
0.99
03:44:40.660
looking for because to me that's fine to me a millionaire a nfb whatever player um yeah he can
03:44:49.220
have money but he if he doesn't support you he's the equivalent of a broke man so unless a man you know
03:44:56.900
it's not supporting me and it's not committing to me committing you know to me i don't i'm not you
03:45:03.300
know i'm like i don't care about that man in the sense that i would not take him seriously like i'm
03:45:12.180
not those type of woman that be sleeping with millionaires just because he's a millionaire and
1.00
03:45:16.820
then they go home and they're still broke like that to me is stupid i'm sorry um that to me it's dumb
0.99
03:45:23.220
it's the equivalent of you know dealing with a broken so um i'm looking for commitment i'm looking
0.97
03:45:28.580
for stability and somebody that can support me and that doesn't mean that it's not unattainable
03:45:35.780
and i think that you're saying oh women are only going for the one to one percent no we're not we're
0.99
03:45:41.060
going for provider men we need that security and the stability that's not that really doesn't
03:45:46.340
and i came in like making excuses for for lazy men like i don't right but you i mean you even
03:45:51.540
mentioned at the beginning of the show you mentioned hypergamy and that women should be
1.00
03:45:54.740
hypergamous i mean you are basically advocating well i mean you're basically advocating hypergamy
03:46:00.180
is the tendency for women to date men who are of a higher and that could be attractive in this
03:46:04.820
level or a socioeconomic level so i mean necessarily millionaires but okay sure but the whole thing i'm
03:46:11.460
trying to get at and it doesn't even it could even be like you're a college girl and you're just
0.94
03:46:15.060
like fucking the super hot college dudes and then like the guys who are actually prepared to
0.91
03:46:19.940
you're gonna friend zone the guys you got you girls want to know where the guys who are prepared
0.99
03:46:23.940
to be loyal and who will commit to you that's the biggest complaint of women all these men they're
1.00
03:46:28.180
cheaters they they don't commit that's because y'all are chasing after this like small percentage
03:46:32.500
of hyper attractive super attractive dudes you know where the loyal guys are where they'll give you
0.81
03:46:38.180
commitment who will be good boyfriends they're probably in your friend zone because you curve
03:46:42.260
the guys that are actually on your level because you all are chasing after the really hot
1.00
03:46:45.860
fuck boys and shit i don't care and this is evidenced by if you look at dating apps if you
1.00
03:46:50.740
look at okay sure if you look at dating apps women are only swiping on like the top 10 of dudes
1.00
03:46:56.740
they're getting all the women whereas the rest of the guys are getting nothing or the scraps
0.98
03:47:01.540
and and women are another problem oh i mean i was just gonna say that's why i think it's very important
03:47:06.660
that women have a realistic self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness because if you think
0.97
03:47:11.860
you're a 10 you're going to be chasing that dude who you think is a 10 i don't chase what okay however
03:47:18.100
you want to put it you're going to you're going to be going after these guys who are like really
1.00
03:47:23.700
attractive that might be more attractive than you that want to fuck you but will never give you
1.00
03:47:29.460
commitment i don't i don't value attractiveness in a man that's not my in my top priority when choosing
0.99
03:47:35.460
a partner that's fine and with me um i agree with everything brian is saying and for me it runs a
03:47:42.340
little bit more personal than that because i am a certified relationship coach so and i have a huge
03:47:47.300
clientele so a lot of the women who come to me these women come to me wondering why they aren't getting
0.98
03:47:52.900
the dating outcomes that they want and a lot of times it starts with them not being objective about
03:47:59.140
their mate value physical appearance what they bring to the table what they have to offer who they are
0.94
03:48:04.260
and you have to remind them that these are the things that you woke up every day and told yourself
03:48:09.380
in the mirror daily affirmations i'm a 10 i'm this i'm going to manifest this i'm going to attract the
0.99
03:48:14.260
energy that i put out all of that is bullshit all of that is bullshit because you live in a world
0.99
03:48:21.540
to where someone has to pick you too it's just not about what you believe about yourself it's about the
0.99
03:48:27.060
way the world sees you as well and if you have the expectations of as a woman i want to attract
03:48:33.940
this type of guy i think i'm on the level of this type of guy and the reality is you're not
03:48:38.820
you're really going to end up heartbroken i'm i'm telling you like i deal with these women who are
1.00
03:48:43.860
heartbroken they're disappointed they they they wanted to be wives they wanted to be married they
03:48:48.420
wanted to have kids not out of wedlock they're single mothers all types of women they're just
1.00
03:48:53.460
disappointed they're heartbroken and if you would have started being objective and being able to
03:48:58.100
take some constructive criticism and being able to say well you know what you're right it took this
0.98
03:49:04.020
long for me to come to the realization that i'm not the shit that i thought i was or i hyped myself
0.92
03:49:08.980
up to be thinking that i was doing something body positivity or doing something for myself that was
0.93
03:49:13.780
going to manifest what i wanted i realized it didn't work like that and now i'm here and that's
03:49:19.300
what i have to explain to them once they get there so you you ladies are young you don't understand it
0.68
03:49:25.060
you don't see it but if you continue to hold a certain attitude about yourself that is not
0.98
03:49:30.260
aligned with reality reality is going to show you what the fuck is up and when it does it's going
1.00
03:49:37.780
to punch you in the face and you're going to be so much more heartbroken and wish that you had just
0.99
03:49:42.980
been more realistic and maybe took advantage of some of the opportunities that were presented to you
0.99
03:49:47.380
in terms of dating in terms of relationships with guys who could have been good partners but because
03:49:52.100
you felt that you were above him when you really weren't by whatever metric you choose to use
03:49:57.780
now you're single you're stuck you're single and you can't get what you want because you spent all
03:50:02.580
your years that you should have been investing in those guys who are on your level trying to get
03:50:07.060
something better that you weren't really qualified for
03:50:13.380
let me ask i want to last thing on this do you guys want an average man going around the table
03:50:19.140
do you want an average man define an average man um five foot nine 50k a year salary average looks
03:50:37.860
i wanted to make either like more than me or like exact the same as me because i'm planning to have
03:50:44.420
babies and i want to create a family and i need stability and i need support to that sure
03:50:52.500
honestly i don't care as long as he has the life skills to bring to the table
03:50:56.660
and we're able to grow together and fully provide for our family together okay
03:51:03.300
considering my last two were below average i'm gonna say yeah
03:51:06.100
yeah as long as he's a man of god okay like she said i would want him to make as much or
03:51:14.660
preferably more than me and i also would want him to have an above average personality to be honest
03:51:20.900
because i feel as though i have an above average personality as a woman and i don't know if you
03:51:26.020
guys might think that's delusional but i think i do and if you want you can ask me questions
03:51:32.180
um i try to think very positive i never try to bring down other people unless they like
03:51:39.220
bring down me like that girl yesterday i just chose like kindness i'm very
03:51:44.340
respectful i always check up on my friends i take care of my grandparents because my mother isn't able
03:51:50.340
to so whenever i'm at home it's like chaos because my grandma's paralyzed and my grandpa's very old and
03:51:55.700
i grocery shop for them call my grandma every day and like like tell her everything going on in my life
03:52:01.620
and i'm very close to all of my family i stay connected with my friends i always try to like
03:52:10.580
ask them how they are and like open up and i'm very like open i like to share my experiences because
03:52:15.700
i want people to learn from them and every step i'm taking towards my life lately i try to be one of
03:52:24.340
growth and i try to spread that knowledge to the people in my life too so i think that makes an
03:52:31.460
exceptional personality in my opinion you have an exceptional personality i think above average
03:52:37.700
personality yeah and you can ask me more questions if you want do you think you're charismatic i think
03:52:52.580
but does somebody want to tell her wait but again i don't really think that's a personality trait
03:52:58.100
of course charisma is a personality yeah it would be it would be it would be
03:53:01.860
it would be on the extroversion yeah it's a personality trait on the extroversion yeah i'm
03:53:06.420
definitely more extroverted than i am introverted do you have a job uh yeah i do currently yeah
03:53:16.340
i think we have a here what about you do you want an average guy
0.98
03:53:22.260
i wouldn't mind it but as she said i would like someone who makes as much or as more or more as me
03:53:29.220
okay so you anticipate being a high earner or you are well you're 20 so i mean my goal is to
03:53:39.460
earn high yeah and if how much do you want to earn
03:53:45.460
or do you see yourself earning i mean i would like to be like make it yeah i'd like to be well off
03:53:54.260
i'm sure anyone would like to be well whether you'd like to be or not is different than
03:54:00.660
what actually will happen what do you study in university business okay so you anticipate making
03:54:08.900
what what what are you gonna you're a junior or senior junior
03:54:17.540
do you know have you looked into potential jobs have you researched starting salaries what's
03:54:23.380
your starting salary going to be out of high school or sorry not high school out of college
03:54:29.060
what do you mean like how much it's amazing to me this is why i'm so against university is people
03:54:33.780
are going to spend get go into debt spend five to six figures rack up a bunch of student loans
03:54:40.740
maybe some of your privilege and your parents pay for it maybe you have savings and you don't even
03:54:45.220
know how much like the anticipated salary of the field that you're pursuing in university
03:54:51.220
like to me it would occur okay before i spend all this idea because i'm getting my real estate
03:54:57.460
license right now grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars high value is not equals high net
03:55:04.820
worth where all the good men with women who value them why can you not find one they see you coming
03:55:12.740
a mile away the men you want will not want you and their baggage
0.56
03:55:19.060
and i'm not i'm not even directing this at you but it's like so many people go to college get five
03:55:23.140
to six figures in student loan debt they pursue you know whatever the some degrees are absolutely useless
03:55:29.540
and then they can't find a high-paying job like i feel like you should know yeah like here's why i'm going to college so that i can
03:55:37.700
go into this field and have a decent understanding of what the starting salary is and what i can expect
03:55:43.860
to make over the course of five ten fifteen twenty years whatever it may be so did you have something
03:55:48.180
or i was going to say like for example when i worked at jersey mike's as a general manager i made a hundred
03:55:55.300
thousand that year and that was how much i made that year so in like your like your field that you're going
03:56:00.340
into out of college how much will be will you be making on a yearly basis in that first year of working
03:56:06.820
when you get out of college in your like field that you want to go to let's say it's accounting
03:56:10.180
let's say it's like a bank teller how much would you make in that year is what i think i have multiple
03:56:15.220
plans for myself so i more than just like real estate i want to do interior design as well
03:56:21.540
so i you know i'm just kind of just going for it i'm saving up and i feel like with real estate
03:56:29.140
which is kind of specific to me because that's what i'm interested in working on getting a real
03:56:32.580
estate license yeah i'm doing my 135 hour course right now and i think it varies with that specific
03:56:39.220
field because it does depend on like what like the houses you sell and like the area you're in
03:56:45.540
there's different factors oh sorry look i just see the reality is most people are average
03:56:54.340
but what i'm seeing is a lot of people who are average don't want an average person as a partner
03:57:00.740
they think here's what i want but wouldn't it stand to be to wouldn't it make sense that
03:57:08.820
if you're an average person don't you deserve to be with an average person romantically
03:57:14.980
are we just going to gas up women and say even though you're average even though you're not
1.00
03:57:19.860
remarkable in any way you deserve the best you deserve a top 10 guy no top 10 women deserve top 10 men
0.99
03:57:28.340
50 50 women deserve 50 men that's how it is no yeah i agree and i think to attract what you want you
0.97
03:57:36.100
have to be on that level that's how it works scientifically as well um so for someone to
03:57:43.620
want attract for someone to want to attract someone specific they better be matching
03:57:49.380
that person or actively working towards that and you can't expect
03:57:52.900
to receive that if you're not doing what correlates we're gonna move on i have to get a couple chats
03:57:59.860
in madison is the most attractive one on the panel by far every time go madison quick question for
03:58:04.900
madison how has hearing all these panels impacted your views on dating uh quick answer madison if you
03:58:09.700
want um it's honestly made me uh recognize how corrupt the modern dating world is and it's made me
03:58:16.580
feel so incredibly lucky that i have frankie and makes me value my relationship and want to strengthen
03:58:23.780
it even more yo w's w frankie's in the chat can we get wankies in the chat please um all right we have
03:58:32.180
hold on we have bender the offender ladies do you believe shame and judgment is a good thing or bad
1.00
03:58:37.620
thing explain your answers we'll go around the table on this really quick go ahead what is the question
03:58:41.940
again sorry do you believe shame and judgment is a good thing or a bad thing explain your answers
03:58:48.740
shame and judgment i don't know i'll pass i think it's a good thing because i mean you can't
03:58:55.140
know how to grow unless you have criticism right criticism is going to be your best friend because
03:58:59.700
that's how you're going to know what you want to change specifically about yourself in order for
03:59:04.420
you to grow and to be better yeah i'm gonna say um to an extent it's it's fine if you're going a
0.78
03:59:14.500
little too hard and you're just consistently judging making someone feel like shit then yeah yeah i i
0.59
03:59:21.700
agree because i don't think everybody should feel that opinionated i feel like right now everyone feels
0.87
03:59:27.300
super opinionated um but i do think yeah it's it's good to have a little bit of criticism so that way
03:59:35.940
you know what to kind of like work on but also to like i don't think listening to everything is good
03:59:43.220
also because then you're not like really believing in yourself and like what your potential is either
03:59:50.660
i think that it can be good or bad for example that girl yesterday hollering out her car saying i have
03:59:56.900
no ass i think that's bad and it just shows where she stands with herself to be honest i think that's
1.00
04:00:02.980
when it's a bad example of judgment and criticism but i think that it could be good like telling
0.75
04:00:08.580
someone you know you should be losing weight you should be getting in the gym i've noticed you've
04:00:13.460
gained weight like you don't want to go down a bad path and eventually yeah get like heart disease or
04:00:18.740
like other problems or like what we're talking about right now i think that it's good because it can
04:00:24.100
open up our minds and make us think of different perspectives and just this podcast as a whole
04:00:28.900
we've kind of been debating each other in a way to make each other grow so i feel like it kind of
04:00:34.740
it's beautiful depends it is beautiful it honestly is and like i've learned a lot from it so far and
04:00:40.900
it's not even right now but curtis underscully on donated 200 thank you curtis pill i have a true
0.96
04:00:48.100
example in the marine corps the few wms who were below my league were the shit once they leave they
0.98
04:00:54.580
find out they aren't shit emergency room at va four women came in all stds
1.00
04:01:02.420
i mean yeah that's that's actually a good example like a lot of women in the military because there's
1.00
04:01:06.340
so few women there's a lot of dudes uh the the supply and demand basically i mean she
1.00
04:01:16.580
good talk did you have an answer to the the previous tts or period no no good real world um
04:01:24.340
observation i mean you did you have an answer to i think criticism do you believe shame and judgment
04:01:30.100
is it a good thing or a bad thing i think criticism could be helpful like to an extent
04:01:39.220
okay uh i think it's good and it builds character and we need to bring shame back
04:01:48.900
we need to bring shame back there you have it folks there you have it i okay let me finally get
04:01:54.740
into my notes that i actually have from you guys i'm gonna try to get through the through these as
04:01:58.020
quick as possible nikki we have a tweet from you
0.94
04:02:04.900
shout out to the random man who paid for my food in front of me thank you
04:02:08.980
how so what is that a regular occurrence like dude just i just thought that was such a nice gesture
04:02:14.900
it was like a chipotle thing and he like paid for the food in front of me i thought that was so
04:02:19.300
sweet and it was like an act of kindness i think i wanted oh hold on yo ab check thank you for the
0.96
04:02:24.900
gifted 20 memberships appreciate it man you're a fucking legend appreciate it that's what i'm talking
0.89
04:02:29.780
about that's why he's giving me that's why he's the goat the goat okay thank you man appreciate it um
0.96
04:02:39.380
so it just reminded me that there's still like really nice people that like give
04:02:45.140
really nice gestures it sounds like a simp if you ask me
04:02:49.700
i felt like no that wasn't a simp i thought that was like such a like gentleman like that was so
04:02:53.620
nice like you didn't have to do that have you had that before like anybody just like pay for your
04:02:57.380
shit or anything yeah and i don't maybe i just didn't document it that day but that day like how
0.90
04:03:02.500
often i had just gotten out of the gym like i just was not feeling like my best yeah like i had no
0.97
04:03:08.340
makeup like it was just super plain and that guy just like paid for it other ladies here have has
1.00
04:03:13.460
that anything like that ever happened to you like a dude just like oh let me pay for that has that
04:03:18.340
happened yeah i didn't even say it creeped out but you've had offers i guess like i've had it like
04:03:24.740
once but it was a girl it wasn't i've had it once but it was a girl it wasn't like a guy what about you
04:03:29.860
yeah you've had that what about you you get yeah tell us briefly what
04:03:37.700
like free drinks like stuff like free drinks what about like you're getting food the guy
04:03:42.180
any other non-club related paying for food or just like randomly like you're in line chipotle oh let me
04:03:49.140
get that yeah you have you had that yeah have you had that yeah i'm not gonna have you ever had a chick
0.99
04:03:57.540
just like you're total stranger just like oh um i've never had a woman pay for it but i have had
1.00
04:04:06.100
women who work at places give me free food because i'm handsome oh okay all right yeah i would give you
04:04:15.940
food if you got up to the register and couldn't pay for it i'd be like i got you i appreciate that but
04:04:21.380
but a couple of my exes did ask me on first dates and they paid for the first dates or like
04:04:27.140
i'll probably like lx doesn't approve of that we're like free rides home like i don't know
04:04:32.660
just kindness kind of sounds like female privilege a little bit it kind of is and that's real and it
04:04:37.780
exists honestly kind of sounds like life on easy mode oh a little bit don't you think
04:04:46.100
we're definitely just total strangers here let me just finance your life we're the ones with the
04:04:51.380
periods we're the ones who end up having the baby in our stomach oftentimes being left by like
04:04:57.140
the man we had the baby with that's okay i mean there's a whole lot of they're paying for a meal
04:05:02.020
it's not like they're paying for my rent finance my life like you're literally buying me food for a
04:05:07.300
day yeah but i mean maybe some of you have had sugar daddies i mean yeah we can get into that but
04:05:15.300
there's pros and cons to both being a man and woman for sure yeah shoot i mean i guess i was my
04:05:20.580
own sugar daddy because i've been living by myself since i was 12 so yeah see but that that's like
04:05:26.340
expected of men but like um anyways um wait let's also not forget that men get their egos up and they
04:05:36.980
like when they do those those things for a woman it's so simple oh they do you're such a beautiful girl
04:05:43.940
in the line let me pay for your food is if he would have waited till i got there and asked me for my
04:05:52.020
number nothing he just paid for it and then left and then when i got to the register the lady was
1.00
04:05:55.780
like oh that makes him more of us no it doesn't it was just like a kind gesture and then he just
04:06:00.900
have you ever done have you ever done that for a dude have you ever done that for a guy just some
04:06:05.060
random dude like yeah actually i have i've given a guy free drinks before like as a bartender yes i
04:06:11.540
have to pay for it out of pocket that's totally different how this was you're saying this was
04:06:15.780
another guy in line you the question was if i've ever done like a nice gesture right no that's that's
04:06:25.460
that's a very different context like you in your capacity as being employed by a bar and you maybe
04:06:32.580
you found some dude attractive and you bought him a free drink is your argument that people can't
04:06:36.980
just do nice gestures like a nice thing like that's such a bad thing no my argument though is
04:06:42.100
that this tends to be typically from men directed towards women and i think it's simpish to just like
04:06:47.620
randomly see a hot a girl you think is hot let me just pay for her i don't know that's simp i don't
04:06:54.580
know if i would call it simpish but you have a point he has the money to do it and he just finds you
04:06:59.940
attractive and he has no money like no what if you know he has money he's whatever like
04:07:06.180
i only like some money you don't provide you only provide for a girl who is like your girlfriend
1.00
04:07:12.180
that's it yeah i'm gonna provide for random chicks of course oh you're so hot buying a drink is not
1.00
04:07:18.660
providing by the way what's that buying a as a girl 25 drink it's not providing he's saying first off
04:07:26.660
this is another this is another reason why not to go to the bars like it's not 25 drink
04:07:30.980
what the girl drink or food it's not a big go to bevmo and hang out with your girls it's just an act
04:07:36.020
of generosity because like you guys every single one of us said like a man has come up to us and
04:07:41.780
offered to pay for our food but how many times have we been in a restaurant and we decided to
04:07:45.700
actually pay for someone's food like the only time i've ever paid for a man's food that was in
04:07:50.660
front of me is because i rear-ended him in the drive-thru he's just saying women have it easier on that
04:07:55.460
what i have done is like given like a homeless person money that's a bit different how it was
04:08:00.500
a man i thought that's and that was like an act of kindness i didn't have to do that right but
04:08:05.220
like there's something that's like that's almost like um yeah but that's almost like charity like a
0.89
04:08:10.820
guy who you're you're a guy buying your food at the line in chipotle is simp shit because he's doing
0.95
04:08:18.660
it because you you're attracted it's not but i think that like it's not makes him a man to like do
0.98
04:08:23.780
that kind gesture and not expect anything sexually or romantically back it's oh i see a pretty girl
1.00
04:08:29.700
like i have the money for i feel like that's kind of like a really masculine act and whatever chivalry
04:08:35.140
and whenever like a man that's not chivalrous does that i don't think that he's a simp if anything
04:08:39.060
it's very like attractive and i like and then he disappears and you never see him again if there's
04:08:45.220
no basis but it left a mark in my head enough for me to tweet it like that would like wow good for
04:08:50.980
him he really got a lot out of that yeah that was so nice though that was such a nice gesture
04:08:56.100
listen if anybody what value what value did he receive against somebody paying for my food
0.97
04:09:01.700
good for you of course if women just want to send me free money and free shit and buy me stuff i'm not
1.00
04:09:07.620
going to sit here and tell them no and object to it but if we're actually analyzing the situation
0.99
04:09:12.740
the dude's a fucking simp he's just buying a chick random food as well yes going to well
0.99
04:09:21.620
first off i don't encourage men going to strip clubs so yes if you're going to strip club and
1.00
04:09:25.940
this is the same thing if you're tricking women because you yeah that's some attractive i'm glad
0.65
04:09:30.260
you said that it's yeah it's still selfish that's first off like are you upset like a woman isn't
04:09:36.340
simping over you and doing it for you i've had women simp over me not gonna lie it's pretty
1.00
04:09:41.940
fucking dope what is it i love it too huh were they feminine in their ways super feminine yeah
0.98
04:09:48.420
i went on a date last week she took care of everything everything i said okay a girl need
1.00
04:09:53.700
not be like hyper masculine to want yeah we yeah she she asked me did i want to go to dinner and she
04:09:59.460
said she would pay you didn't think that was like nice like that was like yeah like wow i mean she
1.00
04:10:05.940
asked you so she should i mean we went to a museum yeah we went to the museum first when i was in new
04:10:12.100
york we went to the museum in new york the natural history museum and um i took care of that but then
04:10:17.620
while we were there she was like do you want to get um ramen after i'll pay for it so is she a simp in
0.64
04:10:23.540
your eyes right now where do you stand with her right now oh she but she do you appreciate her right
04:10:28.020
now for her paying for oh yeah i'll probably hit her up after the podcast but like is she like in
04:10:33.780
your priority right now yeah do you think she would be less of a priority because she did that
0.99
04:10:39.380
well i don't know i just kind of want to like hop into your guys's minds as you guys well i i like
04:10:44.100
that that's i value that yeah i would i here's the thing i think there's this trope of like oh if
04:10:51.940
and i know ella you probably disagree with this but like if a girl is actually contributing
04:10:56.900
in some way like if she's kind of simping on you that shows a very high level of interest yep and
04:11:03.300
like my personal view is if if having been a guy who's dealt with low interest women and high interest
0.82
04:11:09.620
women it's way better to deal with women who display high levels of interest versus a chick
1.00
04:11:17.060
who's like a fence fence sitter i don't want to deal with the fence sitter chick i like girls that
1.00
04:11:22.900
are like i don't play this game of like this hard to get shit i like you you like me let's be
0.98
04:11:29.540
together let's keep it simple we don't need to play some game so i just don't like the word simp
0.87
04:11:35.700
like i just think that you might not like it but a dude who who who you're not dating a dude who you're
04:11:41.300
not dating who random stranger who just pays for your he's tricking that's a trick right no i just
04:11:50.100
he's tricking is that the word wait do you think i mean that's just his way do you think that girl
1.00
04:11:54.980
is tricking on you then by buying the ramen no but but he has a romantic he has he actually has like
04:11:59.940
an interaction yeah i feel like if it were more like a repetitive thing where it's like you're just
04:12:05.380
going out like once a week to a specific restaurant and that person just happens to be there and every
04:12:09.860
single time they're paying for it yeah they're a simp but if it's like that's not possible yeah it
04:12:14.660
is but what if like paying for your food it doesn't make a difference in his finances yeah like he's
04:12:20.900
just wanting to do it because he wants to do it like it's not of impact it's not affecting because
04:12:26.660
you're pedestal you're pedestalizing some random woman who doesn't deserve it let him be that's how
04:12:32.820
guys flirt i feel like what is the he didn't flirt though but that's their way of showing their interest but
04:12:38.340
not all girls are gonna show their interest by just buying well how about how about here's if you
1.00
04:12:43.540
want to actually flirt with the chick how about he step to you and be like what's up are you single
04:12:48.500
i'd like to take you out sometime and at that point he can start spending potentially spending
0.99
04:12:54.100
resources but to just like buy you your shit and be like peace that's fucking weird that's simp
1.00
04:13:00.100
well some guys are dumb i guess like facts that's his point that's his point dumb as well
1.00
04:13:09.780
he's masculinity if anything like if a man buying you stuff or like randomly buying a drink or whatever
1.00
04:13:16.900
is him like trying to like proclaiming i'm a man it's not masculine okay they like to do that hold
04:13:23.140
up hold up okay so say that is the case did you say anything to him no i didn't get the chance to
04:13:29.220
hear i'd already left okay so if i have men buy me drinks and not even saying hello to me just like
0.99
04:13:35.140
randomly like do you say anything they're pussies and they don't have what it takes to actually step
1.00
04:13:41.300
to you and be like what's up i'm bartholomew nice to meet you you took the extra time in the mirror i
0.99
04:13:48.900
appreciate that that's how i see it have we taken into account that it's like christmas time and
04:13:56.500
that maybe he was like oh i'm gonna do a little like secret sienna real quick and just buy her food
04:14:00.660
and dip i think to do something nice for karma was it from 2020 was it not this month no no it was from
0.88
04:14:06.820
2020 ignore me okay it's look that's just some sim shit that's i mean yeah obviously you guys are
0.86
04:14:15.620
going to object to me categorizing it that way because you guys stand to benefit from men continuing
0.92
04:14:22.420
to just fund your life are you jealous well no because the way i see it too yes i would love it
04:14:27.860
if women should we turn down those things for real should we say no oh my god no i don't mind when
1.00
04:14:34.500
no i don't blame women i don't okay well i take issue with the men doing this i don't there's no blame
04:14:40.580
on women if some dork wants to buy your chipotle and say nothing to you good for you bruv you saved
1.00
04:14:49.540
15 bucks congratulations good for you but like i criticize the men if you're guys please never do
0.84
04:14:56.500
this if you're don't do it what do you do it do that huh what do you think men buy women randomly
1.00
04:15:02.100
think because they're fucking pathetic that's why what are you just jealous please keep buying
0.99
04:15:14.100
trauma son do you feel like you have a little too much to whereby you think that they're like being
04:15:19.940
simps when in reality they're just men that have let go of their ego and pride in that moment
04:15:24.980
and have like healed the parts of them that were hurt by some woman that they just want to do
0.96
04:15:29.060
a kind of thing if they had let if they were on some eckhart toll shit if they're on some power of
0.68
04:15:34.020
now eckhart toll uh the power of now and they're like they're they destroyed the ego they destroyed
0.80
04:15:40.340
the the whatever the it's called it's their heart their heart chakras were aligned
04:15:46.420
it doesn't have to be that deep he would just be like i'm just the ego move is like i'm gonna show
04:15:52.660
how dope i am and pay for this girl's meal no you just be like no i'm gonna buy my own
0.99
04:15:58.500
shit who the fuck i don't give a fuck about this person that's the ego list response the ego
1.00
04:16:03.620
response is like let me flex on this chick let me buy her vegan chipotle son hell yeah and sometimes
1.00
04:16:09.940
it's adorable of them because they think it's like so they're like i'm doing such a great thing
04:16:15.700
i'm gonna say why and it's cute it makes them so i remember when i was younger my dad paid for the
04:16:20.820
ladies in front of me all of her groceries and i not once thought that was like a synth thing at all
1.00
04:16:26.420
i thought that was like such a nice thing that is very nice
04:16:37.540
all of her groceries did he say why yeah she was like a single mom and like two little kids and
0.78
04:16:42.580
i don't know i just i think my dad just like felt like you know sorry for her and understood yeah
04:16:49.460
but i mean but then again he is also a dad and he did see like a mom with two kids struggling to
04:16:54.180
probably pay for groceries yeah i did not at all think that that was a simp i thought wow like that
04:16:59.700
was such a nice thing okay um moving on uh you had a story about a threesome that turned into a
04:17:08.820
foursome story but then went bad oh god was it three dudes two dudes no it was me it was me and a girl
04:17:17.700
who i'm not friends with anymore and we had met these guys at a bar and it was i was kind of liking one
04:17:26.580
of them and like oh so then my friend obviously she's like hooking up with the other guy and
1.00
04:17:39.700
so once we get to the room i start to realize that i actually don't like the guy that i'm
04:17:46.100
was kind of flirting with the whole time at the bar and i just kind of like focused more of my
04:17:51.540
attention on the other guy what my friend was like also like flirting with at the bar too so then
04:17:58.740
we were like trying to like tell tell the like guy that i was talking to from the bar like okay like
04:18:04.420
can you like get out and like this will be just a threesome now like it's not really a foursome and
04:18:09.700
he had like his big old temper tantrum and like started fighting the guy in his own house and like
04:18:15.380
me and the girl just like sitting there like okay like is this really happening and then we just
0.95
04:18:19.940
left y'all should have just fucked each other what wait so there's the main dude whose house it was
0.93
04:18:26.180
who was getting down with you and your girlfriend yeah and they were friends and then there's like
0.96
04:18:31.620
a random dude no no it was two guys and me and my friend so two guys from the bar and you and your
0.87
04:18:37.780
friend but you guys only wanted to fuck the one dude well like at the bar he was cool but then like
0.94
04:18:43.860
after the bar once we got back to the other guy's house like i just realized like how like not cool
0.99
04:18:49.860
he was and just like lame and i don't know he was just being weird like too much like too aggressive
04:18:56.580
and like just too much where as my friend's guy like she was flirting with he was like super cool
04:19:01.620
super laid back like he wasn't being like thirsty about anything like we're already there like you don't
04:19:07.540
have to try anymore just like saying like random things like and just i don't know just being sure
04:19:12.820
well okay uh just question for everybody here at the table who here has had a threesome anybody
04:19:27.940
you almost almost four sums 3.5 okay 3.5 you also said one night stands after the club
04:19:34.340
thoughts um did you have something on one night stands after the club
04:19:38.900
oh like what were my thoughts on one night stands well you mentioned you wanted to talk
04:19:44.500
about it on the show so oh like that was just a question like what was everyone's thoughts of
04:19:49.620
like one night stands after the club disavow i think i like 10 i want a 10 000 night stand
04:19:57.620
like if i fucking excuse me excuse me if i sleep with a girl i want to continue seeing her so
1.00
04:20:07.620
like to me what's the point of like sleeping with somebody once yeah i think they value men much more
0.93
04:20:14.340
like they benefit men much more than they benefit women yeah word okay um let's see you also said
04:20:24.180
personally if you're single you have the freedom to date and do whatever you please i don't think
04:20:27.940
being in the talking stage validates you as being taken yes i agree oh hey nick there's a post that
04:20:35.620
we reacted to it's in the just the dropbox folder i think it is hold on it was a reddit post it's like
04:20:42.900
a weird string of numbers it's like f8 lj it's about the we can react to that actually i don't know if we
04:20:51.700
have time um actually we don't have time but um so do you guys agree with that though if we haven't
04:21:00.260
verbally discussed that we are official and like we're gonna be just like me and you then yeah you
04:21:08.020
can do anything you want other than that i think you're single you're open to date whoever i mean
04:21:14.180
technically yes be safe about it though like don't put nobody's sexual health at risk though like i think
04:21:19.380
that's also important but yeah i'm not gonna be delusional and think that just because we're
04:21:25.620
talking oh my god now let me just not talk to no other guy right now i think that there should be
04:21:30.980
like communication through it like be like hey we're talking are we gonna be serious are we just
04:21:36.740
talking like what's going on you know because when you're talking there's a lot of things that can
04:21:41.380
happen and it can be taken like four different ways so it's always good to just clarify and make sure
04:21:45.780
well and you said you were like you're cool with dating like seeing multiple people it sounded like
04:21:51.380
you recommend women date multiple people yes at what point though do you think that you should
04:21:56.820
open the window to ask that question because i feel like ask the question to be with multiple people
04:22:02.740
no like um be communicative of like um what what are like what is it like are you gonna like not
04:22:09.620
sleep with nobody else like when is when is that window flirting actively like talking about future
04:22:16.420
plans together and talking about perhaps starting a relationship is when you should actually start
04:22:21.780
being like hey when it moves on from the friend stage basically like when you're just friends if
04:22:27.300
you know because you know if someone's trying to date you like you sorry you know if someone's
04:22:31.780
trying to like be with you you know even if you're just talking you can tell like you know so i feel
04:22:39.300
like you should honestly know when to ask i'll give you a more direct answer from the moment you
04:22:44.820
realize that your feelings are deeper and you want more i think that crosses your mind you should ask
04:22:51.380
yeah or like bring up how you feel about it i've got a hot take on this one this is my own personal
04:22:56.980
view and standard the moment i go on a first date with a girl if you want a second date with me
04:23:04.340
it has to be a wrap with every other guy you're seeing you you've decided you want to see me again
04:23:11.140
the other guys are a wrap that's it huh you agree no like look if you want to be a garden tool go ahead
0.98
04:23:20.020
but certainly low if i don't even want to go on a first date with a girl that's fucking another guy
0.98
04:23:25.940
i that doesn't even interest me if you're currently sleeping with a dude i don't care if you're not
1.00
04:23:30.500
exclusive with him i don't care if it's an open thing whatever i don't it's not worth my time to
04:23:36.740
even go on a date with you even if you like fall like you really dig me and you're gonna curve the
0.96
04:23:42.660
dude that you're fucking bro there's no scenario where i want to be going on a first date with the
0.98
04:23:47.540
girl and she's fucking another dude so immediately that's a disqualifier so i want very quickly your
1.00
04:23:54.340
undivided sexual and romantic attention and people might think yo that's some crazy bro that's way too
0.99
04:24:01.220
soon blah blah blah but how many people are complaining about hookup culture how many people
0.98
04:24:05.060
are complaining about being in situationships for fucking six months maybe that's moving too fast but
0.96
04:24:12.020
i just view it like it works like i i don't like i don't want to be dealing with a girl that's like
1.00
04:24:22.100
fucking other dudes or even going on dates with other dudes i want your again your undivided
0.98
04:24:27.220
sexual and romantic attention is it fair for like the woman to ask the same from you though
0.99
04:24:33.300
like if you can get it yeah like if she does that is it like valid and fair for you to do the same
04:24:39.140
like reciprocate that like i mean anyone else i mean it would be a very good screening mechanism
04:24:45.380
because if your goal as a woman is commitment and you might say well i'm gonna scare off the guy
1.00
04:24:50.260
i mean if the guy's really into you he's attracted to you
04:24:57.300
he otherwise he's just exploring his options and you're just an option
0.99
04:25:01.620
um granted some guys they're just trying to poe around fuck a bunch of chicks you might not be able
1.00
04:25:07.460
that early on to get that but i would argue like if you come with that kind of energy early on you might
0.99
04:25:14.660
be surprised you might find a guy who's like let's fucking do this fuck all this situation ship not
0.96
04:25:20.420
knowing where we stand like it actually could be a very positive paradigm for people to approach
0.98
04:25:26.100
things because i don't think people are satisfied with oh let me just be in a situation ship for six
0.93
04:25:30.660
months and he's fucking other chicks and i'm fucking other dudes and so um yeah so for i mean me
0.99
04:25:36.740
personally like i only deal with i well ideally i only deal with women who have a very high level
1.00
04:25:43.300
of interest and if she's cut off or doesn't have other sexual and romantic options for me i'm going
04:25:50.980
to be much more inclined to want to just pursue her so yeah so all right i just want to say that when
04:25:59.860
i encourage women to you know date multiple men i'm not saying that they should be sleeping with
04:26:06.020
those men okay um yeah like don't sleep with men until like they show commitment to you and you know
04:26:13.780
like you guys form a relationship now i encourage women to date multiple men why because we tend to
0.51
04:26:20.340
like bond quickly and um you know develop feelings and you know attachment to certain men and that may not be
04:26:28.660
the best match so i feel women should explore their options right and see okay whose guy is giving me
1.00
04:26:35.780
the most attention whose guy it's giving you know he's ready to commit uh who's putting the most amount
04:26:42.100
of effort you know those things we have to take into account and you know make better decisions for
04:26:46.500
ourselves instead of you know just picking the first guy that we find can i can i and can i respond to
04:26:51.540
that real quick i get that but there's one statement that obstructs her ability to do that but i don't
04:27:05.060
rational okay i feel like women need to be more logic when it comes to relationships and it's true
1.00
04:27:11.460
like we tend to you know go you know make excuses and sacrifices for you know those men like and they may not
04:27:19.220
deserve those sacrifices maybe that men it's not good for us maybe them it's a cheating man it doesn't
04:27:25.220
look for commitment or it looks for all the things that you know doesn't align to what i'm looking for
04:27:30.180
in a relationship so again logic you know you know have your your roster right and see which one it's the best
04:27:40.820
match and compare them that's why i like the idea theory i just it's just and don't sleep with them because the moment you sleep with them
04:27:54.580
i mean look i think it is kind of the status quo that people have come to accept especially with
04:27:59.300
social media and dating apps that people are going to be dating multiple people
04:28:02.980
both men and women i don't think we necessarily need to accept that and um you it it might work
04:28:11.140
doing this whole dating multiple men thing i will say a guy who knows what he wants and he knows that
04:28:18.100
you're just that he's just an option for you i won't put over he's probably just going to be like
04:28:24.420
the other dudes can never and you've maybe lost out on the guy who's
04:28:28.100
who's otherwise would have given you commitment or who's otherwise a great guy i can say for from
04:28:33.140
my perspective if i'm talking to a girl and you might say brian it's unreasonable for you to expect
04:28:38.820
a girl to just drop all her options immediately or to only be talking to you um maybe it's true maybe
04:28:46.500
it's not but what i can say is this is perhaps the case for me and for a lot of us from i don't know
04:28:51.780
if it's for a lot of men because a lot of men really don't have any standards or boundaries
04:28:56.900
or preferences but if a girl tells me that she's dating other men i'm just not going to pursue you
04:29:04.820
that's it i'm not going to try to pressure you into stop no just like goodbye okay it's over like
04:29:13.540
not going to pursue you there's also competitive men i feel um that's fair men are competitive in
04:29:20.340
nature and if they know that you are maybe talking to other men and if he wants to be the man of your
04:29:26.500
life he's gonna do everything in his hands to make sure that he's the only one and you're you know
04:29:33.220
that that you're giving him you know your undivided attention so he's gonna fight for that position
04:29:39.060
what i'm not for it's woman just you know getting with the first two that they find and they make
1.00
04:29:45.940
excuses and sacrifices and that man you know like breaks their heart like no you want to be in my life
04:29:51.460
you have to end your position i just think like when you do fall upon like when you do meet
04:30:01.060
the guy that you really like if it if it becomes evident to him that you're maybe you're not sleeping
04:30:06.180
with other guys although a lot of women are you're dating other men like if i went on a date with a girl
04:30:13.540
and she we we've had girls come on the podcast say they'll go on two dates in a day i don't care how
0.97
04:30:18.660
fucking cool you are if i find out that i took you on a date and then you dipped to go on a date with
0.96
04:30:25.700
another dude it's a wrap i don't want anything to do with you that's just disrespectful similarly
0.99
04:30:33.300
women will go on three four five six dates a week i went on a date with you you got three dates lined
1.00
04:30:38.740
up with other men it's just a headache for me i don't want to deal with low interest women
1.00
04:30:43.780
by the if we go on the first date if you want a second date the other guys have to be around
04:30:47.540
that's it i'm gonna deal with oh you're still you're on the fence about me you still want to get
04:30:53.380
no like okay and not it not every guy agrees with me some guys are like hey that's a reality
04:30:59.620
this is sorry grid one motorsports donated 200 do you only give bad advice please stop
04:31:08.980
one dude at a time dating multiple dudes is an immediate red flag and actual good men will
04:31:14.340
move on to a woman that has respect and dates purposefully
0.74
04:31:24.500
yeah disavow disagree disagree okay um going back to you uh you do old of correct yes what kind of
04:31:31.540
content you do on the of um solo content boy girl girl girl mostly solo have you done any boy girl
04:31:37.700
content um in the past but not any not anymore with just one guy or multiple yeah just one guy just
04:31:43.380
one guy like a boyfriend or something yeah you guys were doing content together yeah okay um i have
04:31:48.180
a question so i noticed you're wearing a cross and then you're nick can you pull up her instagram
04:32:01.940
it's going to take a sec but first woman of god
1.00
04:32:05.140
uh nick nick what's your instagram uh nikki foreign egg god nick
0.71
04:32:13.860
nick nick just put you can pull up the youtube video and it's in the description of the
04:32:29.220
okay um are there any chats are there any chats here uh no there's no chats guys go to twitch.tv
04:32:36.340
slash whatever jobs to follow jobs a prime sub if you have one if you have amazon prime you can link
04:32:41.140
it to your twitch it's a quick free easy way to support the show every single month
04:32:46.340
my bio says god first but what was going to be the question well i got it right yeah i got it right
04:32:56.980
um god first one of one goat is that a goat yeah because i'm a capricorn oh okay what is what does
04:33:03.780
one of one mean like i'm one of one there's only one of me so you're special is what you're saying
04:33:11.140
there's only one version of me there's only one sure that's true i guess yeah there's not a double
04:33:17.300
of me but you think like couldn't anybody say that yeah everyone is welcome to saying that they're one
04:33:22.500
of one themselves yeah so but like doesn't that if you're trying to point out that you're special but
04:33:28.260
everybody is a one if everyone's a one of one don't you think it's kind of arbitrary and redundant
0.77
04:33:33.620
to put it in the instagram profile no because i wanted to put that in my sure uh pull it back
04:33:40.820
up you said god first yes um so i'm curious right like do you consider yourself a traditional woman
04:33:47.780
do i believe in god yes no but different question um do you consider yourself a traditional woman
04:33:54.420
i don't know what a traditional woman would be living in 2003 with housewife type with instagram
0.98
04:34:01.380
and with social media and with the dating pool that's going and with everything that's happening
04:34:06.180
in the world and what how women are becoming like more independent like i'm not i'm not gonna
04:34:11.380
subscribe can you show us the cross the necklace oh you have a tattoo tattooed and i have the cross on
04:34:17.380
my well i'm curious like how do you reconcile god first cross tattoo cross necklace i mean don't
04:34:26.500
do you think god would approve of you doing only fans in porn yes god loves me yes one thousand
04:34:32.100
wait god approves of you god loves me can i just have you feel like this is that scene from from
0.99
04:34:39.540
fucking um the wolf of wall street where they're on the boat with jordan belford and he tries to bribe
0.97
04:34:46.900
the fbi agent or whatever and he and the fbi agent's like can you say that one more time just the way
0.99
04:34:52.980
you said that so in your own words god approves of you doing only fans and porn
04:35:02.900
god loves me no matter what i do god will always no matter what you do yes i i firmly believe that
04:35:10.820
in any decision i make i think god is with me and loves me what if you blaspheme god does he still
04:35:16.180
love you wait theme blaspheme what is that like blasphemy blasphemy yeah blasphemy we're like
04:35:24.500
saying screw god or like i would never say screw god though but you you said he would love you no
04:35:29.540
okay well i would never say that though i guess how do you reconcile being a godly woman but also
0.97
04:35:36.980
engaging in porn and doing only fans because i make money off of that sorry that i make money so what if
04:35:44.900
you made what if you made money off of being a drug dealer i'm not ashamed of being an only fans
04:35:52.980
model or how my profile looks or how i look i'm not ashamed at all i i own it and i am a woman of
04:36:00.100
god and i do believe in god and i do believe that i'm still going to go to heaven regardless of any
04:36:05.460
choice or decision that i've made but the original question is does he approve so god will yes he forgives
04:36:12.660
sin but does he approve of it yes he approves of you're not sinning i regardless i'm still going
04:36:19.940
to go to heaven he's still going to love me and he's still going to accept me no matter what is that
04:36:24.420
how that works um my god will do that for me yes well you're christian i'm assuming or catholic or christian
04:36:34.180
yes okay but like i just how that's where i struggle here it's not i'm not saying i necessarily
04:36:40.660
object to you doing only fans and porn how do you reconcile god first being a christian being cat
04:36:48.500
whatever it is but doing only fans and why is porn and only fans a bad thing what if i'm not making
0.95
04:36:56.100
a judgment about that like what if i like for example what if i was getting raped right and i needed to
04:37:01.700
leave okay just okay make your point you said i couldn't get out of if i couldn't get out of x
04:37:08.020
amount of situation whatever and i had no other choice but to do that and that was going to give
04:37:13.140
me money to be able to get out of a bad situation like why is it a bad thing now would i want to be
04:37:19.700
continued to be in that situation or get out i'm hold on i'm not i mean it's not really a good example
04:37:26.100
but i'm not following the logic here about how you mentioned being there's a lot of girls that
0.99
04:37:32.980
do porn and that are getting out of bad situations that help them to get out of bad situations is that
04:37:40.020
the case for you yes you mean a bad financial situation a bad like home situation yes like
04:37:47.860
domestic violence type thing or i don't remember so you're saying that women are obliged to turn to
1.00
04:37:53.940
porn and doing only fans if they're i'm not gonna i'm not gonna be judged when i go to the gates of
04:38:01.300
heaven and god's not gonna be like oh i'm not gonna let you in because you did only fans or porn
04:38:07.220
no he's gonna judge my character how i was was i a kind person was i um i can't see that word either
04:38:14.820
anyways he's not gonna not let me in because of those things he's gonna either let me in or not
04:38:21.380
because of the choices that i've made by being a good human being and being loving and kind and
04:38:28.420
being a good person but not from only fans i'm not hurting nobody yeah but you're sinning i'm not
04:38:33.940
harming you're sinning you're definitely not harming anyone and it's not like
04:38:39.860
god your god does love you and your god does care about you but if you go for all christian beliefs
04:38:47.140
he would not be happy or accept what you were doing but he would forgive you that's for sure
04:38:53.860
but you say you aren't harming anyone you i mean to be frank with all due respect you i mean you are
04:38:58.820
harming you're harming society you're harming men you're you're kind of warping the way the
04:39:03.300
dating scene is and how traditional values i didn't create only fans but you're participating in
04:39:08.180
it so you're participating in the decay of society really but how people are paying for that and how does it
04:39:13.700
necessarily decay society because it's been around for literally generations it talks about it in the
04:39:18.420
bible because it's warping the way sex is viewed by men so they come in and they see these fetishes
0.97
04:39:26.020
and then they expect it from their wives and they but that's always been a thing since the dawn of
04:39:31.620
time it's just been around since the dawn of time not only fans but just porn in general only fans and
04:39:37.220
porn takes it to a whole new level okay let me give you an example okay in mexico right before
04:39:46.180
even the internet was a thing you could go down to tj and you can go see some questionable stuff
04:39:52.180
for a price what is this this is so right now all you have to do yeah all you have to do is go online
04:39:58.020
and look stuff up and then you can look up like the weirdest fetishes you want available okay but
04:40:01.940
this is this is totally unrelated and irrelevant to the actual conversation at hand i'm asking you
04:40:07.300
because it's totally unrelated if you guys want to derail the conversation i already answered the
04:40:10.980
question no but okay how you you see like if you weren't so publicly outwardly like i'm a godly woman
04:40:18.420
god first you have a you have a cross do you wear the cross while you're engaging and shooting your
0.63
04:40:23.540
porn i do actually i never take it off i've actually never taken it off in like the past i don't know
0.98
04:40:28.500
like five rocks yeah abdul yeah get the rock get the rocks you so while you shoot like okay let me
04:40:37.220
ask you a question does jesus say if you love me keep my commandments
04:40:46.020
it says to follow the ten commandments but that's why jesus died on the cross was because
04:40:50.580
no one's gonna keep my command follow the ten commandments and god knew that no one was gonna
04:40:55.700
100 be able to follow the ten commandments which was why jesus had died on the cross to forgive all
04:41:00.820
of our sins yes so he knew that we weren't going to follow them yeah but as a as if you're if you
04:41:07.300
consider yourself a christian person a godly person you need to start moving in a way so it is
04:41:13.380
so which commandment says not to act in porn okay so i i can address that the purpose of pornography
04:41:21.220
is to create lust lust lust is one of the seven deadly sins lusting is equivalent to adultery
04:41:32.260
but those matthews 5 27 28 i'm sorry i'm reading from uh notes here but okay so that being said
04:41:39.860
though okay what is math i'm not even necessarily making a criticism of porn or only fans what i'm
04:41:45.060
making a criticism of is if you're gonna say god first i'm a godly woman you're wearing a cross
04:41:52.180
you've got a cross tattoo but you are like sorry i'm not atheist are you a christian i love god i'm
04:42:00.660
a man of god i'll just say that i'm a man of god do you follow him closely have you read the book of
0.98
04:42:05.780
enoch the fuck is that that's a good question what the fuck is that it's um a part of the bible
0.97
04:42:10.980
that was taken out um it tells the story of noah's grandfather and what happened during the fall of
0.99
04:42:16.500
the angels do you follow god closely huh do you you said this isn't about me like if somebody wants
04:42:24.580
to criticize me for the way i'm moving that's totally fine but i guess like i'm not i i'm not
04:42:29.380
you've got god first in your instagram bio you've got a cross that's bad though like am i why i just
04:42:34.820
what is this bad thing that i'm not saying i'm not even making god what if it was like my daughter
04:42:39.460
or something like i i like i promote that i love god what's so bad about that no my question to you
04:42:46.180
is with i'm not even so much making necessarily a judgment that you do of effort that you do porn
04:42:52.580
it's like how do you reconcile god first wearing a cross having a cross tattoo what with doing of
04:43:00.820
porn it's clearly against the christian faith so like how do you balance that what do you mean how
04:43:09.220
do i i'm not trying to balance it i'm just doing it like i just love god and i believe god and but
04:43:14.820
if okay if so to identify as somebody who's religious or christian you would have to abide i suspect you'd
04:43:22.420
have to abide by certain behaviors and if you're not abiding by those behaviors are you really
04:43:30.420
like a christian okay so you're a christian right have you you would be going i'm a man of god you
04:43:40.020
would be going against it too if you didn't if you didn't wait to have sex before marriage too so
04:43:45.460
you're sinning as well so what does my sin make a difference between yours i think there's there's
04:43:50.420
just because i'm branding it on myself just because i have it on me doesn't make me any different from
04:43:55.300
you it says in the bible that all sins are created the same so no matter which sin you're doing it's
04:44:01.940
all going to be the same i think there are some that i mean no if you read in the bible if you've
04:44:08.340
read the bible you would know that it literally says that all sin is treated equally in the eyes
04:44:13.300
of the lord a sin is a sin no matter what i'm not claiming to be like perfect and holy but like
04:44:19.140
it's very like but you just said that there were degrees two cents but in god's eyes then i take the
04:44:25.700
l on that specific statement that i said in any case it's just to me it's like okay you've got a
04:44:33.460
you're wearing a christian cross you've got a cross tattooed nick pull up the instagram again you've got
04:44:38.020
god first yes on your instagram and right below it is the link to your link tree or whatever that links
0.90
04:44:45.780
to your only fans where you're doing porn and you're nude and you're you're it's lust link in
0.68
04:44:52.260
bio and then furthermore i mean your photos are pretty revealing yeah it's a marketplace but like
0.55
04:45:03.700
god first i don't reconcile i i don't know how you reconcile nick scroll down on the instagram a
04:45:08.740
little bit let's just see bro it's like booty booty booty is this god first is this godly is this
04:45:15.380
like you're gorgeous oh thank you it's just like bruv it's why does it matter it's just her i'm not
04:45:24.100
seeing her you're not doing anything wrong she's just i think it's just a glaring contradiction is
04:45:29.540
what he's pointing out what i use my instagram for is basically like a billboard for example like i'm
04:45:37.780
i'm i'm i'm basically trying to allure or like bring in people to subscribe to my only fans so i'm
04:45:48.260
promoting it or like making it like a market right so i'm sorry that i'm using my instagram as a
04:45:54.180
business maybe you guys use it as like a personal social no it's just you have god first i'm getting
04:46:00.980
to that i personally use it as a business right that's just a business for me god is not going to
04:46:08.020
shame me or like not accept me because i decided to do one business choice like i it's not he's not
04:46:17.060
going to not love me or not accept me does so i mean this is i think this is one of the complaints of
04:46:24.980
a lot of religion if your religion stands for nothing if you don't if the the the followers of
04:46:31.860
the said religion do not adhere to the religious principles uh then what really if you're not
04:46:40.340
following the doctrine where's the like where is the system i'm not a bad person for doing only fans
04:46:49.940
and then what is the doctrine of christianity then it's certainly you can't like it's certainly
04:46:54.900
not let me make pornographic content do you but do you know like the actual like like what is being
04:47:02.340
christian like what does it entail right there's a there's christian doctrine there's ways in which
04:47:10.420
you should move if you're a religious person and those but not even but your shape are perfect like
0.99
04:47:15.700
that like nobody's perfect sure but like it seems to me like a pretty glaringly a pretty glaring
04:47:25.620
like how it's so it's such a glaring you could try to tear me down about that but i stand firm in
04:47:33.540
that like i still believe that i am a woman of god and i love god and god is god first right it's
04:47:40.660
just like god first right below it here's a link to my only fans like that's not
0.92
04:47:47.700
it doesn't make sense to me you're a bad bitch girl you're fine oh yeah no and to actually reference
1.00
04:47:56.020
like so there's a there's a matthew 5 27 28 the purpose of pornography is to create lust lust is one
0.99
04:48:04.100
of the seven deadly sins that ergo it is sinful okay but what does it say right after the ten commandments
04:48:09.460
and why did jesus die on the cross literally everyone is going to sin yes it could be sinful
04:48:14.420
but guess what so is talking crap on anyone so is wanting the nintendo switch that your neighbor has
04:48:21.380
so is wanting the tesla that your neighbor has so is everything everyone is going to sin and sinning
0.93
04:48:26.500
is a part of life that is why jesus died on the cross and that is the whole point of the christian
04:48:30.740
religion is to acknowledge that you're sinning realize what's going on apologize to god and realize
04:48:38.740
that no matter what you're never going to be better than anyone else we're all in this fight together
04:48:44.260
and we just all need to support each other yes we are human and we will all sin that is not permission
04:48:49.940
to sin you have to it's a call it's a call to be vigilant okay of our thoughts and actions okay but
04:48:59.540
if you're sinning to make a living for yourself that's wrong how because it's a it's a continued
04:49:06.020
pattern of behavior so you don't think that god understands that you're doing it for
04:49:10.500
your own survival in order to be able she can survive without doing only fans okay but it's
04:49:17.060
probably how it's not going to be as convenient are you kidding me just be you think just because
04:49:22.420
something's difficult that it shouldn't be done i don't think that i'm just saying that if someone
04:49:27.460
has an option to make their lives functional for them and they find something that works for them
04:49:33.860
and they're making an income for themselves good for them so god obviously gave her the opportunity
04:49:39.300
to do so everything happens for a reason god who's to say god gave her the opportunity who's
04:49:44.980
to say yeah no no actually who's to say who's to say that this isn't years down the line that this
04:49:52.100
isn't going to be an awakening and opening a door for something else in the future
04:49:56.500
what no not what's not what i meant i actually understand what she's saying so like for instance maybe
04:50:02.020
other agencies maybe other markets there's a lot of things that only fans can open up a door too
04:50:08.900
and to be honest if god led her to this door god has a plan for everyone and i'm not everyone has a
04:50:14.260
path right i'm not saying i'm perfect no i'm not saying that you're saying you're perfect but your whole
04:50:19.700
thing is oh like how would god feel how would god feel none of us know how no we'll know how god will
04:50:25.620
feel but what we do know is that he literally sent down his only son to die on the cross for our sins
04:50:32.660
yeah but that doesn't mean you continually engage in behavior that you know is sinning if i didn't
04:50:38.260
have that in my bio or if i did if i wasn't wearing this if i didn't like is that the difference that
04:50:43.060
i'm just like branding it what's the what is like the thing that's like bothering you about it it's
04:50:48.340
you're wearing a cross you've got a cross tattoo you have i'm just literally secret of god
04:50:55.460
literally a line above your link to your only fans to your porn link it says says what god god first
04:51:04.660
you're clearly not putting god first because if we habitually continually hold on if we can if we
04:51:11.340
habitually and continually constantly joyfully and frequently practice sin we are not children
04:51:18.260
of god and i that's a little note i had here but that's true um i'm not i'm christian i'm not the
04:51:24.580
perfect christian whatsoever um you can still love god but if you want to build a relationship with god
04:51:34.020
if you want to be connected to god you have to let go of sin you have to sacrifice your your oh me and
04:51:41.940
my connection with god is like this honey nobody at this panel or table is gonna does god want you
04:51:48.100
to do porn whatever however i talk to god or however my relationship is with god or whatever
04:51:53.460
my conversations were with god it doesn't matter it's nobody else's opinion but mine it's my
04:51:59.220
relationship with god at the end of the day i don't think god is okay with what you're doing but i do
04:52:06.260
think he'll forgive you so that's fair that could be a fair way to put it that's fair forgive you
0.99
04:52:12.180
but you disagree oh no oh okay link in bio oh my god bro this is the most fucking haram shit ever
0.99
04:52:22.100
haram um okay um we have brigitte brigitte is it brigitte or brigitte brigitte um let's see
0.99
04:52:31.140
fuck we're really behind here on okay i want to okay we're gonna probably end up going a little late but
0.89
04:52:35.700
uh part of me really wants to talk to you guys so you know that not everyone who wants equality
0.99
04:52:40.980
is stupid honestly i feel as though even i could rebuttal your points better than any of these other
0.88
04:52:45.220
women who have literally no points whatsoever um did you want to expand on that there was just
1.00
04:52:52.420
it was like in your very beginning of your podcast tilt your mic so sorry just tilt it down tilt it down
04:52:58.420
a little bit um it was in the very beginning of your podcast more yeah go ahead okay it was in the
04:53:04.660
very beginning like when you first started your podcast i watch you a lot on youtube um there was
04:53:10.740
this one girl and i think you had asked like is it like um it was something about how um you know
04:53:19.220
women always want to be like taken care of you know have their stuff paid for etc etc and you were
1.00
04:53:25.380
like oh kind of like what if like i think you said what if like that like a man were to want that
04:53:30.900
or something like that okay and the woman was like oh like that's wrong like blah blah blah and
1.00
04:53:36.340
you were like why and then crickets like she literally didn't say anything so that was kind
04:53:41.380
of like the main thing that i was looking back to um and once again like especially with that point
04:53:47.380
specifically i feel again as both parties should be equal in all aspects you know when it comes to
04:53:56.020
working yeah if you want you can either have a man having the higher payer job higher paying job or
04:54:01.700
the woman having a higher paying job but what would benefit most is if both parties were working and
1.00
04:54:06.820
both having an income for the house to be able to invest it into a roth ira into a retirement account
04:54:12.980
into a trust fund and then once you have enough saved up together which it's going to be marginally
04:54:18.500
easier to save up as a unit than it would be as a singular person individually making an income
04:54:25.780
right use that money that you saved up buy a house start a family and be able to retire early
04:54:32.580
because you have a roth ira so you were you disagree with something a girl said on the show
04:54:42.420
yeah oh okay cool good times good times oh wait going back to you um wait i have a question for
04:54:51.620
wait plastic surgery oh wait that means boobs or like i mean cosmetic cosmetic surgery any enhancement
0.91
04:55:05.060
anybody cosmetic surgery anything nothing nothing got my tonsils removed
04:55:11.140
what do you have oh like lips botox in the face yeah anything else no nothing else
04:55:19.460
a little lipo here and there a little lipo bbl no i actually did not transfer no i actually did not
0.99
04:55:27.140
oh my god if i got a bbl my ass stop the cap
1.00
04:55:35.700
stop the cap no bbl no i work out like almost every single day
1.00
04:55:55.700
okay all right if you say so oh man okay okay let's see here we have uh shelby oh don't you said
1.00
04:56:03.860
in your instagram it says prettiest girl in the graveyard are you a mortician
04:56:07.060
i want to be oh okay but you're not like a in the funeral business at all no oh okay for some
04:56:14.020
reason i thought you might have been employed in that thing um okay we talked oh wait let me see if
04:56:20.100
the the dude slid in the dms oh let's see the m mr m who's somebody oh my god bro
04:56:30.740
well uh there's a guy who dm me who said that brigitte and normally i don't do this but i'm
04:56:43.700
trying someone says that you gave him head while you're in a four-year relationship
04:56:49.060
who i'm not gonna say what he asked me to keep his name
0.99
04:56:54.660
probably it could be bullshit it could be some bullshit but i don't want to know who is this because
0.98
04:56:59.780
i don't remember that says gave you gave him head while you're in a four-year relationship
0.99
04:57:05.700
i don't know sounds like you might have actually done that shit but okay um
0.93
04:57:10.260
okay let's see uh hold on um i lived in oregon oh breakups and how to do it properly we kind of
0.98
04:57:18.180
talked about that not being a coward and actually being a good person when taking care of hard
0.85
04:57:27.700
i think you've been dating somebody for a while you know like a text is fair you know are you
1.00
04:57:33.700
fucking serious kind of that's pathetic yeah that's the type of shit that makes girls go crazy
1.00
04:57:40.900
yeah like genuinely you're a piece for like a piece of shit for that what if you do a text
1.00
04:57:45.620
yeah i feel girls do that shit too i feel like if you guys were dating yeah but the man had just
1.00
04:57:51.460
proposed in front of her dad like not seem a little off perhaps perhaps um let's see uh
0.99
04:58:06.420
in response to something i said that it was because of trauma oh yes what was it about was
04:58:13.700
it about the it was not about the bar club thing it was something else no but i think she said it
04:58:18.100
twice i think it was about like not being able to let go of your ego and seeing guys as simps for
04:58:24.180
being nice to women oh right you said it was like a trauma because right attached to you yeah
04:58:29.060
no i don't think there's any trauma i've i've heard from other men though and i see a lot of men
04:58:37.940
spending a lot of money on women that are not their girlfriends i think that's some simp
0.98
04:58:44.900
shit you're just mad you're not getting the money what's that you're just mad you're not getting
0.99
04:58:51.300
the money no i it's not that i'm mad that i'm not getting some stranger's money it's just like
0.99
04:58:56.340
like some simp do you guys think as men that trauma from like past relationship follows men
04:59:07.380
much more than women into future relationships because you guys don't have the same kinds of
1.00
04:59:12.900
channels we do to like heal from that trauma or learn from it like do you guys think that
04:59:19.460
your negative experiences follow you guys more into your relationships than they do us we don't go
04:59:25.460
to therapy we start podcasts um okay so that's how they start uh no i mean
04:59:33.380
i i actually think uh i i think it's probably the reverse because men like as women start getting
04:59:41.940
more and more trauma they become more and more masculine typically and that typically makes women
0.99
04:59:47.780
less attractive to partners whereas i think look trauma can break anybody but typically like trauma
04:59:55.380
tends to make makes you a bit harder as an individual right you get a thick skin when you've gone
0.96
05:00:03.140
through shit but like men we're attracted to women who are soft we don't we don't want like a hard
0.99
05:00:10.260
jaded woman tends to turn you a little sour whereas i think that impact on men while it can certainly sour
0.99
05:00:18.340
men it gives men experience and it hardens them and women are attracted to hardened men women aren't
05:00:24.900
attracted to soft boys so i think there's a differential there true i think it depends on
05:00:31.700
the woman yeah i'm definitely not attracted to like hardcore men what do you mean hardcore men like
05:00:38.020
hard men like you were saying that's not attractive so you prefer soft men i do i like who haven't had
05:00:45.220
who haven't struggled who haven't gone through adversity no of course but like men in touch
1.00
05:00:49.620
with their emotions and able to actually communicate like a fucking girl yeah i like that shit being a
0.99
05:00:57.220
hard man doesn't necessarily mean that you have to have gone through a bunch of hardship you can still
0.99
05:01:02.580
be wise and have not gone through any hardship like you could have like a for instance you can
05:01:11.140
have a guy grew up healthy relation like healthy family relationship right good mom good dad went
05:01:17.780
to went to high school finished everything great in his life goes to school has a career
05:01:24.500
right raises a family finds a girlfriend you know like it you don't necessarily where was the wisdom
05:01:31.620
acquired in everything you just said the wisdom what's the point yeah um let's see through schooling
05:01:37.300
through family members teaching sharing their experiences and then eventually once you have
05:01:44.740
like the wife and the kids then you gain experience into fatherhood isn't wisdom typically acquired through
05:01:51.460
first-hand experience yes but that can also come from like work it doesn't necessarily have to be
05:01:57.300
something that's super like hardship you know that comes with everyday life like um for instance he's
05:02:03.620
obviously going to have to have a job he's going to learn life skills at that job he's going to gain
05:02:08.100
knowledge at that job he's technically going to go through hardships at whatever job he's going to
05:02:11.620
go to because you're going to have to deal with stress you're going to have to deal with time
05:02:14.980
management you're going to have to deal with renting your own place and just life in general how does
05:02:19.860
that develop his relationship skills well is he can develop his relationship skills through dating
05:02:26.340
oh oh okay grid one motorsports it's grid one two hundred dollars it's grid one everybody getting
05:02:33.620
out of most relationships is not trauma it's freedom and we rarely look back also real men understand how
05:02:41.300
to deal with fear feelings and are not soy boys crying in the flat whites oh wait i just had i just had a
05:02:48.980
total fucking epiphany i think there's a a really big differential in grid one thank you so much because
0.89
05:02:54.580
that's just like major fucking light bulb went off in my head so are you guys familiar with this trope
0.98
05:03:01.220
of women being attracted to guys who are bad boys yeah like women will be writing letters to dudes in
1.00
05:03:08.260
prison like serial killers and shit men really aren't doing that type of shit so when we're talking about
1.00
05:03:15.060
trauma like a guy will granted there's like women with bpd and they will fucking ruin their life and
1.00
05:03:20.900
shit uh men can definitely get like trauma from dating a chick don't get me wrong however i would
1.00
05:03:27.460
argue that women a lot of women will specifically seek to date bad boy types jerks assholes whatever
1.00
05:03:39.780
because these men typically tend to have dark triad personality traits that a lot of women find
0.99
05:03:44.820
attractive or they confuse for confidence um don't get me wrong there's plenty of good men
1.00
05:03:50.340
that are confident but like i would argue a lot of women would rather date like the bad boy who's a jerk
1.00
05:03:56.340
but he's confident versus like the nice guy right so could it be could it be the case that
0.97
05:04:05.860
women actually develop more trauma because of the very men that women choose to date because women are
1.00
05:04:12.660
attracted to bad boys and jerks and assholes whereas men we're typically attracted to like
1.00
05:04:21.940
i mean like for example for example there's this uh thing called it's hebristophilia is it hebristophilia
05:04:38.580
hebristophilia meaning to perpetuate wait uh oh the phenomenon of an individual being sexually aroused by
05:04:48.980
a criminal offender so this typically manifests itself more so in women than in men
05:04:54.900
and so women are to some degree are attracted to the criminal not all women of course
05:05:00.980
find to some degree criminality attractive in men because men who have a propensity towards violence
05:05:07.460
or criminality are more capable of defend defending you or have the capacity for violence and women
0.99
05:05:14.500
find that attractive obviously i'm not saying women want to be beaten or anything by men but you want a
0.64
05:05:20.180
guy who's capable of protecting you in some sort of self-defense or violence situation so guy who has
05:05:25.540
capacity for violence and this can be met this can be evidenced like if you're a violent criminal that
05:05:31.540
could be attractive to women so could it be the case that women actually confer more trauma and
1.00
05:05:39.380
baggage from their relationships because they're attracted to men who might be toxic yes
05:05:46.340
um one of the things that i learned in psychology is that we tend to date
05:05:52.340
a whoever is reminding us of the most difficult parent so if that person you know um grew up having a
05:06:01.860
difficult father um maybe he was absent or maybe he was abusive that person have the tendency to seek
05:06:09.460
that you know those you know behaviors in you know their partners because you know subconsciously they're
05:06:16.020
trying to like fix their relationship with the you know with their father through their partners and
05:06:23.300
it's also because that's what they're comfortable it's all they've known yeah so it takes some experience
05:06:29.700
to like teach yourself that's not what's normal and getting out of what you're comfortable with because
05:06:35.540
you're used to that emotional instability you're used to that absence yeah use like the manipulation just
05:06:42.100
not having like someone stable so those are organically like the types of people you originally
05:06:48.980
attract but then you like can get out of that cycle you know and realize and come to like matters
05:06:56.020
with the fact that that is why you previously liked people like that and that used to be like me
05:07:02.020
previously like i used to like like boys like for so long because yeah because of family trauma like that
05:07:09.300
also i just i want to add on to my previous point i would argue that
05:07:16.900
perhaps women get more trauma and baggage from relationships because a lot of women pursue men
1.00
05:07:23.940
that excite them in some way you often hear women almost need you need to have the vibe the chemistry
0.98
05:07:31.940
the click etc etc etc this sort of nebulous of vague term the vibe the chemistry the click who is
05:07:38.820
best capable of eliciting that in women typically playerish dudes guys who are don't really give a
0.99
05:07:45.860
fuck about you assholes jerks bad boys etc it's a trope like this is this is a thing this is a
0.99
05:07:51.700
stereotype women are attracted to bad boys okay well low self-esteem women are attracted to a lot of
1.00
05:07:59.140
women there's even women who are high self-esteem women who i need a bad boy phase i need to date around
1.00
05:08:04.180
and date a whole bunch of different kinds of guys like i'm not saying all women but like there's
05:08:09.780
certainly something to be said that women are far more attracted like women are much more willing to
05:08:14.420
date a guy who displays criminality for example than the reverse i would argue um additionally i would
05:08:21.780
say that typically you hear women complain about men being boring he's not funny like for example men don't
05:08:29.700
have it very high on the totem pole of is she funny is she entertaining who's the guy who's going to
05:08:36.020
keep you entertained and keep you on your feet and keep you excited and keep that like dopamine uh keep
05:08:42.180
that the the rush of excitement probably kind of toxic guys that kind of treat you a certain way
05:08:51.460
so and let me add um i hate using the term trauma i think trauma is one of these buzzwords
05:08:57.620
that's getting overused um using to describe regular shit that occurs people break up people
05:09:03.700
go through heartbreak as humans we're equipped to deal with heartbreak it doesn't mean it was trauma
0.90
05:09:08.660
um and women take on more trauma than men do because women have more unrealistic expectations in
0.79
05:09:15.940
relationships which means when their expectations aren't met their goals aren't met they take much
05:09:20.980
more of a hit women have a heightened stress response they respond to stress differently than men
05:09:25.460
they experience stress deeper than men and they're more deeply affected by the way they're going to
05:09:30.100
perceive relationships when they move forward after they didn't meet their expectations in their
05:09:35.140
previous dating experiences the most traumatic thing a man typically experiences with a woman is infidelity
05:09:41.940
and and if you ask me when a man experiences a certain level of acute trauma i'm gonna say acute
05:09:47.380
because there's various types of trauma so acute trauma when a man experiences that acute trauma
05:09:52.500
then what that does is that sharpens him that makes him more aware of the reality of female nature
0.86
05:09:58.580
what women are capable of what women will do and that primes him to better deal with women in his
1.00
05:10:03.860
future set boundaries that he didn't set in his first relationship uh have standards have preferences exhibit
05:10:10.740
those things demonstrate those things things that he probably didn't do because a lot of men love
05:10:15.380
really really naively when they first get into relationships they think women won't do certain things they
05:10:21.060
think women aren't capable of doing certain things and then when that woman does it it's like oh
1.00
05:10:25.780
shit like i got cheated on oh shit she fucked me over now i know moving forward what to look for in women
1.00
05:10:34.340
and that makes him more attractive because now he becomes the guy who's much more hardened emotionally he
1.00
05:10:40.500
becomes the guy who's not scared to tell a woman no he becomes the guy who's not scared to hold a woman
05:10:45.700
accountable these are things that women actually respond to and men they they they like men like that do
05:10:50.980
these things whereas with women women will constantly curb men once they've experienced
1.00
05:10:55.940
something traumatic i'm not going through that again i'm not doing that men ain't shit fuck men
0.99
05:11:01.060
those are the things you hear women say when they've been hurt so i think it affects women a little
0.99
05:11:06.580
deeper than it does men and i think in reverse it makes women less attractive to men and makes them
05:11:11.860
less willing to get in relationships whereas men it preps them more for the reality and the brutality
05:11:17.860
that comes with dealing with women that they were unaware of prior to that that's my that's my
0.75
05:11:23.380
opinion yeah i often i don't often hear men saying oh there there just wasn't the chemistry or there
05:11:30.420
there wasn't the vibe the click he's not she's not funny i need a i need a funny girl like guys aren't
05:11:36.580
really saying that i think when women say there's no chemistry there's no vibe there's no lightning
1.00
05:11:40.900
there's no butterflies there's no whatever it is he's boring translation he doesn't trigger my
05:11:47.460
anxious trauma response which i confuse with the love
05:11:54.020
also like when it comes to men being funny your demands that men be funny or that men be entertaining
05:12:02.100
or whatever like we should not be boring we're not here to be your entertainment if you want
05:12:06.660
entertainment go get netflix but that's not our job i think in the relationship so um let me get
05:12:12.660
through my notes here uh hold on we have uh i want to go what's everybody uh type nah we don't have to
05:12:22.020
do everyone's type um i want to do that uh jordan you said you haven't exactly or you haven't exactly
05:12:28.900
dated since 2019 yeah i haven't dated anyone since 2019 um you said modern dating culture is a disaster
05:12:38.980
um yeah um i mean it's all the online dating apps everything like that i feel like like i said before
05:12:45.540
people are disposable now um everyone swipes on everyone we're doing a first appearance like they
05:12:52.020
see you for two seconds and they swipe on you i just think it's really strange i know not everybody is on
05:12:57.460
the dating apps or anything like that but it's just my opinion on dating now
05:13:03.940
is it kind of stems from feminists i feel like they've ruined the dating culture they've really
1.00
05:13:09.220
ruined men in general they're confusing men so i think men take out women and they don't really
05:13:15.940
know what to expect women get all weird about i could get my door myself and but you also need
1.00
05:13:22.900
to pay the bill and it's it's just it's really strange i think women are just confusing men so
1.00
05:13:28.420
they're turning men feminized wait have you so you said you haven't dated since 2019 um so you've been
05:13:34.660
like have you been celibate yes since 2019 yes 2019 24 years five years almost five almost five
05:13:44.420
four or five wow okay honestly i don't think it's women ruining men i really do agree that people are
05:13:53.860
becoming disposable but i don't think it's women to blame i think it's the extended use of technology
0.98
05:14:01.860
in media that contributes to these dating apps um people's false perception that they have many options
05:14:08.740
and that there are way more attractive people than they are but also you know just perception
05:14:14.420
of themselves the sure yeah the false perception of themselves just the false perception
05:14:20.020
all around and just that false belief that you could get someone else easily because you're seeing
05:14:28.180
so many people you can interact with so many people but that person you might interact with when
05:14:34.020
you stop the connection with the other one might not have a lot of the qualities that the other
05:14:38.340
person did but you have this false perception but see that's what's weird to me is now people are
05:14:43.140
juggling all of these guys and vice versa and to me that's weird i don't even understand how you can
05:14:48.500
find that many people to juggle all at once like these people who will find rebounds like almost instantly
05:14:54.100
has always been it's always it's always been very confusing to me um so for me dating i mean it was
05:15:02.500
kind of like what we talked about earlier i mean once you go out on the second date to me i mean
05:15:06.580
that kind of means you don't really talk to anyone else because you're i mean even considering going
05:15:12.420
out again with someone it's like i to me i i take it a little more seriously because i'm like i'm
05:15:17.700
intrigued by this person now um so therefore all the other people on the sidelines are kind they're not
05:15:23.380
as intriguing so like why would i waste my time but the fact that people are juggling so many different
05:15:28.340
the whole i don't know there's so many of the situationships now and i don't even understand
05:15:33.540
how any of that works it just is very confusing to me but i agree technology is definitely playing
05:15:39.380
a role in uh what's happening in the dating world but i think feminists in general are the ones who are
1.00
05:15:46.260
who are really ruining it what specific actions would you say that feminists do that ruin dating wait
1.00
05:15:53.460
before you answer that and we will have her answer that i do want to go around the table on this do
05:15:58.980
you consider yourself a feminist no non-applicable what do you mean i'm just neither man i just want
05:16:08.260
equality for everyone if that makes sense like even the guys like oh in your notes here you said you
05:16:14.180
were a feminist oh i did and you're a political a political feminist
1.00
05:16:26.740
are you that's just the question i mean like i said like i don't know if it falls in line with
05:16:31.940
feminist belief or with traditionalist belief but i think that like like i've been saying this whole time
05:16:37.780
everyone should work towards their goal equally and a relationship should be a partnership we're both
05:16:43.940
parties are equal and they both do help each other grow okay right sure so yeah okay i'm not like a
05:16:52.500
hardcore nazi kind of feminist but yeah i would say i'm a feminist okay no no not from what it has
05:17:02.420
become yeah me too same you okay obviously yeah i think i need some water
05:17:13.620
um what was sorry your question for her was what specific actions do you feel as though
05:17:21.060
feminists are doing that ruin like modern dating or contribute to the dating apps because it seemed like
1.00
05:17:27.620
you're connecting feminists to dating apps well i think dating apps it's a contributing factor when
1.00
05:17:32.820
i'm saying feminists in general um it's just that culture so it's the you know toxic masculinity women
1.00
05:17:39.060
are very um i feel like they're trying to break men down um they want equality for everyone so long i
05:17:45.540
feel like is they're on top of the pyramid um like i said before they're confusing men so men are supposed
05:17:52.180
to be the ones who go out and they approach you and they set up the date and you know the pressure's
05:17:58.340
on for the men and um i feel like now women are kind of dominating that and men don't really know what
0.97
05:18:05.780
to do because women are just like the whole boss bitch culture and i'm independent and i don't need
1.00
05:18:11.300
you and i can do whatever i want it's it's just i think it's confusing the entire culture
0.99
05:18:16.100
we need the gender roles back basically is what i'm saying i think we do too but i feel as though
05:18:22.340
both men and women play a role in that in their own way yeah i think the gender i think the gender
0.86
05:18:29.220
rules were just kind of crap only because like let's say like you were a good wife right let's say
1.00
05:18:39.620
you did everything everything was perfect you have like three kids right he leaves you don't
0.98
05:18:45.860
have a job you have nothing how are you going to support yourself and your kids are you going to
05:18:50.420
leech off him and then just get child support like you're going to live on child support yes that's
05:18:56.420
what women do through the brutal alimony system feed off of this man who decided to leave like
1.00
05:19:02.900
yes that's exactly how's that when you are maintaining your own son your own blood yeah versus
05:19:08.660
nowadays we can have our own job grow with our partner and then even if our partner does decide to
05:19:13.220
leave we we can still raise the kids ourselves right i'm pretty sure it's mainly women who
1.00
05:19:19.220
initiate majority of the divorces yeah women typically are ending relation women typically
1.00
05:19:23.780
end relationships and they typically are the ones initiating divorce it's like 80 of divorces
05:19:28.820
are initiated by women so it's funny to me because women constantly drone on and on
1.00
05:19:33.780
men aren't willing to commit men are commitment phobic but when you do get relationships when women do get
05:19:39.460
relationships when they do get commitment when they do get the ring when they do get the marriage
05:19:43.540
they overwhelmingly end them it's not clear to me if women actually want commitment because till death
1.00
05:19:50.660
do us part has to mean something and frankly it doesn't well even though it can sometimes be women
05:19:54.900
it's not always women right the majority majority of the time but it's not always is it doesn't have
1.00
05:20:01.380
it don't it don't have to be majority sets the precedent for his point okay but my point also
05:20:08.660
is too so then if a woman leaves right and that's her choice that man can still support himself that
0.50
05:20:14.420
man can still continue to live correct but my point is if we had societal roles back and the man decided
05:20:22.420
to leave then that would put a lot of women in jeopardy of not being able to get a job not being
1.00
05:20:27.620
able to support their family because even child support isn't enough 100 of the time and we all
05:20:32.100
know this especially depending on what state you're in but that's because we're looking at
05:20:34.900
marriage different now now we're looking at marriage as an inevitable divorce that's what
05:20:39.780
we're looking at it so when gender roles back in the day divorce was not common at all so there was
0.97
05:20:45.700
never the threat or danger of that happening because they knew that if they left they'd be
0.99
05:20:51.460
they'd be fucked they'd be fucked yeah they'd be fucked they'd have to pay to support a woman and
1.00
05:20:56.900
their child no what incentive does a man have to leave a woman that he gets down on one knee and
1.00
05:21:01.620
asked to be his wife and spend the rest of his life with there's a lot it depends on that man
05:21:06.580
no no i've seen it happen multiple times no in your opinion what would provoke a man to leave
05:21:14.660
a woman that he proposed to and wanted to be his wife in my opinion there's a lot of things there
05:21:21.700
could be something new maybe they went to go use drugs maybe they found another partner maybe they
05:21:26.900
got cold feet and changed their mind maybe they all of a sudden decided hey you know what this was
05:21:31.780
too fast for me i don't want to be a dad it happens all the time men typically don't leave relationships
05:21:37.620
they just don't they typically don't so do you have like the actual like statistic
05:21:41.940
on like the percentage ratio of men to women that leave like the actual statistic percentage from
05:21:46.820
if if 70 to 80 percent of women initiate divorce that means what that still means that 30 of men
05:21:56.500
that's still 30 of men when you think of how many people are on the planet it doesn't matter what
05:22:00.580
percentages those little percentages that you can think of are still billions of people compared to
05:22:05.860
everyone in the world like if you're looking at this is it a global statistic or is it a statistic
05:22:09.860
from the u.s no that's the stat from the u.s but you assuming it's just men actually the other
05:22:15.540
percentage would be mutual the 80 is mutual no no 80 the 80 is women the the rest is mutual 20 they
0.53
05:22:26.180
agree the most the man and the woman agree to leave the relationship or in the marriage so you're
05:22:30.660
saying that zero percent of the time a man will decide to not because that's what you just said not
05:22:34.660
zero percent but an overwhelming majority of the time it's the woman leaving so your point doesn't
05:22:42.340
hold much weight you're saying majority of the time but my point is that it still happens of course
05:22:47.860
it happens every now and then it's rare though and is it not harder but how does that support your
05:22:52.740
point that supports my point because if we go back to being traditionalists like how are we going to
05:22:58.660
support ourselves like i said because you're thinking about it on the wrong wavelength completely
05:23:03.780
i do rather just like listen to the whim and do whatever someone tells you to do like your property
05:23:09.700
you said before it's a partnership a marriage is a partnership yeah but how are how are you working
05:23:14.100
as a partnership when you're not both working so it's going to take longer for you to save up because
05:23:19.460
you have one person financially bringing in money and majority of that money is going to the child
05:23:24.580
it's going to the mortgage it's going to the car it's going to you where's the savings where's the
05:23:30.260
investments you see what i'm saying it's better if both no i don't think wait wait i'm sorry i do
05:23:37.300
have to move on because we're running low on time i finally want to get to ella here she's been waiting
0.96
05:23:42.580
very patiently we gotta we got we got multiple videos of hers to react to so nick pull up the articles
05:23:47.460
first ella recently went viral of she's got some hot takes here uh nick if you can pull it up
05:23:54.580
i never this is is this the first article in the in the list so this is from which publication nick is
05:24:01.860
this this was in april scroll up this is the independent wait no no no i never scroll up a
05:24:09.700
little bit i never split the bill people call me a gold digger but they've just got low standards
05:24:15.460
uh scroll down just a tad uh scroll just so i could read some of the article uh actually next we'll just
05:24:23.860
look at the other ones this is from the daily mail can you exile that thing in the top left corner
05:24:29.300
whatever um woman 24 who refuses to split the bill on any date slams critics who say she's a money
1.00
05:24:36.740
hungry gold digger insisting men should reward the time and effort she puts in so she can look her best
1.00
05:24:41.620
for them uh can you scroll up just a tad oh there's nothing up there never mind next
05:24:49.940
it's just the same article scroll up or make it bigger a little bit this is from the express
05:24:55.380
i'm a proud gold digger i get what i want and women should learn from my dating rules yeah sometimes
1.00
05:25:03.140
with these publications they definitely like to uh yeah put next one that was a video they
05:25:10.100
mirror from the mirror i never split bill on dates some say i'm a gold digger but it's a man's job
0.98
05:25:15.060
and then finally the new york post i never split the bill on dates women can learn from gold diggers
0.56
05:25:21.860
uh scroll up or make it bigger i mean yeah oh a little too big a little too big uh wait too small
0.98
05:25:30.260
now god damn the new york post the fucking ads scroll up no up i'll just read the first few paragraphs a
0.99
05:25:39.860
new york-based influencer doesn't care that she's been branded a gold digger because she believes that men
1.00
05:25:44.100
should always foot the bill when it comes to dating as a matter of dignity influencer ella
1.00
05:25:49.460
freeman freeman for 24 said that she would never go dutch on a date believing any man who would
05:25:54.740
suggest such an arrangement isn't serious about his role in the potential relationship by splitting
05:25:59.540
the bill i'm agreeing to form a connection with a man who doesn't know his role in a relationship
05:26:04.500
and expect expects me to be 50 50 of the man he's not i've learned that men who split the bill don't
05:26:09.860
value the time and effort a woman puts into herself to look her best for that man
05:26:13.620
plus 50 50 men don't understand that the woman's investments investment was made prior to the
1.00
05:26:18.500
date the self-confident singleton continued wait scroll up i don't want to see that show about the
05:26:23.780
war um a little less so i can continue by uh the self-confident singleton continued by not agreeing to
05:26:32.340
split the bill the woman keeps her dignity intact and avoids bad experiences with men so first off do you
05:26:39.860
feel like the characterizations of some of those titles and those articles do you think they were
05:26:43.300
fair do you think they're kind of putting words in your mouth what are your thoughts on those and then
05:26:46.660
we'll react to some of your videos i don't think they're fair but i know why they would you know
05:26:52.900
write it like that it's sensationalist um it grabs people's attention and society hates gold diggers
0.82
05:27:01.060
um and i think i don't think there's such a thing as a gold digger i think women are naturally
1.00
05:27:08.580
materialistic we're inclined to um seek for partners that are you know successful uh can provide can
05:27:16.260
protect um and mislabeling labeling that's how you say mislabeling like labeling wrong well let's react to
05:27:26.420
some of your tiktoks here so nick it's wrong and it's just trying to um humble woman for you know
1.00
05:27:34.100
something that okay it's ingrained sure ingrained in our dna dna yeah
05:27:41.220
my first viral video all right uh go ahead you can play it if you haven't been called a gold digger
05:27:48.100
at least three times in your life then your standards are too low um how many times have you been called a
05:27:54.100
gold digger countless countless countless times after that video yeah how many times have you been
05:28:01.140
a gold digger i've never been a gold digger i have never i feel i have feelings because i feel like a
05:28:08.500
gold digger you know doesn't care about anyone's feeling doesn't care about consequences and it's
0.78
05:28:13.860
only in it for the money yeah i could never do that um for the next next video i can't uh so we don't
05:28:22.340
even need well we can play go ahead if you're not getting spoiled by men in your hometown come to
05:28:26.740
miami where millionaires pay your bills just because you're pretty
05:28:32.900
is that your experience no it's not but what do you mean you said it in your
05:28:37.220
i said it i said it um i don't know like everyone in my like everyone knows that in miami it's for the
05:28:43.940
girls like you get you know stuff for free all the time like you can go with zero in your bank and
1.00
05:28:51.460
still have fun so kind of sounds like life on easy mode oh we're like you know we live in a
05:28:56.900
patriarchal society and like the little ways that we can benefit from it like we're um patriarchy okay
05:29:03.300
um kind of sounds like female privilege a little bit i mean we're already oppressed so like living in
1.00
05:29:12.100
like trying to dismantle patriarchy and you know all of that stuff like great i'm not gonna
05:29:20.420
want to dismantle no no no like uh wait do you admire people that do that wait you admire women
0.94
05:29:26.740
that want to woman that wants to dismantle dismantle patriarchy of course yeah but i just i'm just not
05:29:33.060
gonna make it make sense but you want the patriarchy to be dismantled like we already living in in in
05:29:40.340
the patriarchal society i don't think so i think we live in a gynocentric i just don't want to live
0.99
05:29:44.740
my life where i constantly have to fight against it if i can benefit from it you know what i'm saying
05:29:52.500
like don't get mad get paid kind of thing so wait you said you're oppressed like women are
0.88
05:29:59.140
oppressed in a patriarchal society no so you're you're oppressed right now i don't feel i don't
05:30:05.540
feel oppressed because i i enjoy rights you know the same rights that men you know enjoy are oppressed
05:30:13.060
what do you say which women are oppressed if you're not in other countries a lot of we're talking
05:30:17.780
about here oh yeah we're talking about the us because she said she asserts that there's a
05:30:21.780
patriarchy in the united states ergo if the patriarchy is oppressive i assume it's oppressing
05:30:27.780
women so well going around the table do you guys do you believe there's a patriarchy i think so yeah
0.98
05:30:34.980
like yeah i don't know yes i don't know what patriarchy means that's fine i don't know no comment what
05:30:44.180
do you mean no comment i don't know do you just are you familiar with the the term of the patriarchy
05:30:53.140
yes i am but you don't know if there is a patriarchy or you just don't want to say it i guess i don't
05:31:00.100
know they said i don't know and i agree why aren't you picking on them well you said no comment initially
05:31:08.260
i would prefer not to talk about okay no i'm just going to assume your position then and i'm going
05:31:18.100
to assume that you believe there's a patriarchy if you choose to not comment on it that's just
05:31:22.340
i'm just going to assume your position the way this isn't even like that controversial of it
05:31:27.780
like this is mainstream like you hear in colleges
05:31:39.700
are you like you're you can't you're not going to get canceled i personally haven't experienced
05:31:46.180
the patriarchy but i believe maybe it exists in some parts of the country or some people have
05:31:51.540
experienced it but i'm not one to say that it does exist and is tangible but from my own life
05:31:56.900
experience that's not a thing i think that still women and men play different like roles so i don't
05:32:04.260
think there's anything wrong with that yeah we have it easier and men are able to take on challenges
05:32:10.020
easier i think so especially when it comes to making money i don't know that's what i you're on a dating
05:32:17.540
podcast like it's okay to have an opinion yeah that's what i think no i'm not talking to you i'm
05:32:21.460
talking to you oh i know so you're just gonna no comments the conversation i'm assuming you have
05:32:33.140
yeah i do why did you want to come tonight if you're not going to engage in the conversation
05:32:38.260
have i not been not really well i apologize for that well this is me trying to reel you into the
05:32:45.780
conversation and just saying no comment like okay whatever i'm not gonna waste any more time on this
05:32:57.540
under the patriarchy those of you who believe in the patriarchy do you think women are oppressed
05:33:01.460
wait correct me if i'm wrong patriarchy is a society where it's predominantly governed by men
05:33:07.540
correct or not or how would you define patriarchy i mean there's a whole bunch of different i mean
05:33:13.140
i've heard various different definitions of it but typically probably the more generous definition
05:33:18.820
of it would be a society where leadership positions top positions in corporations
05:33:29.380
those who occupy positions of power those in government are men typically okay i've heard it's
05:33:36.580
a society built by men for men i've heard that i've heard uh a couple other definitions of it but
05:33:44.980
i mean you use the term so we can we live in a patriarchal we are we live in a patriarchy
05:33:49.940
because most of the presidents and governors happen to be men
05:33:59.140
i don't know um could it could one of the reasons be because it sounds like
05:34:07.620
you don't want to be 50 50 in a relationship right how many women are like you
1.00
05:34:15.860
not a lot nowadays i feel more the modern woman i would say there's a lot of women
0.97
05:34:21.140
who want to be at home and don't want to do 50 50 and want a man to go 50 50. huh i've seen i've
05:34:28.500
yes there's a lot of women going trying to like wants to well here's a simpler question what maybe
1.00
05:34:34.900
some women don't want to go 50 50 but what proportion of women would prefer a guy to pay on the first date
1.00
05:34:40.740
and be a provider okay not you we know you but i don't know the statistics about it um
05:34:49.300
they have oops um why do you think it is that men do you think men are in these higher positions of
05:35:01.620
power and high earning positions because of like some system set up by other men to uphold other men
05:35:11.380
um i think men are naturally very good at being leaders and um okay in command and
05:35:19.300
you know um yeah and they're very organized i so then why would you why would you want to
05:35:24.580
dismantle the patriarchy that you believe exists if you think men are better leaders than women
05:35:29.540
but also we we cannot deny that you know years ago like in history women have been denied the same
05:35:36.820
rights that men have been enjoying since you know the beginning of humanity okay donated 200
05:35:44.740
dollars if the girl in white is too tired to contribute allow me to wake her up open your
0.85
05:35:51.060
mouth woman let me throw a ball into that catcher's mit you call a mouth it might even cure your
1.00
05:35:57.060
herpes jesus christ butler calm down brother holy i'm sorry i'm tired this guy is on fire okay um well okay so
0.98
05:36:08.820
you want a guy to be a provider correct you don't want you want to when you get married how much of
05:36:18.180
the household income do you want to be contributing zero percent like money wise yeah you want him to
05:36:25.860
be the sole breadwinner correct yes now do you and you you think you'll be able to get that correct yes
05:36:33.060
let me ask you a question how many men do you think can go out into the dating marketplace and
0.99
05:36:39.220
want to provide zero financially and expect to get a partner he might want 50 50 he might be able to
05:36:47.060
get it but he goes into it expecting to provide zero financially like a man expecting a woman to
0.77
05:36:54.660
provide zero no no how many men can go into the dating the dating marketplace with the expectation
05:37:00.980
for a long-term partner that his his future wife will provide a hundred percent of the financial
05:37:06.900
resources i don't know very very few what i can name one okay we're yes there's probably dudes that
05:37:19.940
would be fine being stay at home i would argue though that the vast majority of women as a lot of
1.00
05:37:25.620
the women here answered i want a guy who makes at least as much as me or more or it's i want a guy
1.00
05:37:32.900
to be the sole provider so could it be the case that the reason men earn more than women which is
05:37:39.940
the wage gap's already been debunked but for the sake of argument let's assume that's not the case
05:37:45.220
could it be that their reason that there's a patriarchy and that men occupy the highest positions of
05:37:51.140
power and the most desirable jobs and make the most money is because there's a mating pressure on men
1.00
05:37:57.860
that does not exist in women if it's your standard that you want you don't believe in 50 50 you want a
1.00
05:38:05.460
guy to provide for you then that is a very real and powerful mating pressure that exists on men that does not
05:38:15.460
exist in women i would argue one of our greatest motivations in life for both men and women is to
05:38:21.540
find a partner and if it's women's standard that i want a guy to make as much as me or more or more
1.00
05:38:30.420
more importantly if there's women out there a large cohort of women that want a guy to be a sole provider
1.00
05:38:37.220
sole breadwinner doesn't it stand to reason that that creates a pressure on men that does not exist in
05:38:43.060
women that men need to go out and make money and could it be the case that the more motivated you
1.00
05:38:51.140
are to do something the gr the like the more likelihood you are to achieve that yeah the better
0.99
05:38:57.940
so if there so if there is a patriarchy women created it
1.00
05:39:04.020
women really if if there if there's a patriarchy women created it because women because you just
1.00
05:39:10.740
because you just said you want a guy that pays all the bills you want a guy who does xyz that man
05:39:18.660
that's attractive to you so that man men in america are innovative they figure they figure
05:39:25.300
shit out they start businesses they get ideas they form alliances with other men who share those same
05:39:31.700
values same ideas who are also innovators entrepreneurs so they become the top they become the top and they're
0.94
05:39:37.700
what you want so if women didn't desire that they wouldn't have became that also i agree with that
05:39:43.940
men men we don't have a fallback of marrying someone richer if we're not earning enough like pursuing a
05:39:51.220
high-paying career is basic is is a basic necessity for men like we have to we can't fall back on
05:39:59.540
potentially finding a woman who's prepared to be the sole breadwinner in a relationship we don't have
05:40:04.660
that as a fallback and we do know if we want to get an attractive girl if we want to get
1.00
05:40:09.780
a 10 over here a high value woman we have to be the sole breadwinner and providing all in all these
1.00
05:40:16.580
ways so maybe there would be less of a patriarchy if women were like i'm cool with 50 50 or i'm even
1.00
05:40:23.460
cool with fully providing for a man but y'all aren't so i can't i can't even i'm not against patriarchy
05:40:31.860
i'm i'm against men yes you are using abusing you you literally said you're you're like go
05:40:37.940
women who are trying to dismantle like i live in christianity and christianity is based men being
05:40:44.340
leaders but the men is always the pastor you know like men in positions of leadership do you not want
05:40:50.100
a man to be a leader though i do like i'm comfortable with that what i'm not comfortable with is men abusing
05:40:56.020
that power and using it against men should not abuse their supposed power they do sure so do women
1.00
05:41:02.820
but why but why do you why do you think that happens though like not not from a moral perspective
05:41:08.180
but if a man is paying all the bills okay and he comes to you he dates you you date him
05:41:18.020
don't you think he wants you to do everything he wants you to do be everything he wants i understand he
05:41:23.540
will request submission from me and i'm willing to give it because i'm naturally some you know
05:41:29.460
submission um submissive to the right man to a masculine man i had just wanted to add that um
05:41:36.580
the only reason why there's not a lot of women in office and in these higher like power roles is
1.00
05:41:41.540
because a lot of the time women don't want to be in a higher like power role like they don't really
1.00
05:41:47.940
necessarily always want to be in office they want to be taken care of they want to stay home they want
05:41:52.660
to have a sole provider so by saying that there is a patriarchy it just doesn't make sense given
05:41:57.220
the fact that who's actually like raise your hand if you're like actually thinking about like going to
05:42:01.780
congress like doing something in the field of like a high power role like a judge or like deputy chief
05:42:10.740
something like that president no exactly oh another mating pressure aside from just the financial
05:42:17.220
component women are attracted to status i was just about to say that women are attracted to
0.99
05:42:21.540
status in men whereas that's not really an attraction trigger like you can take a really high status
05:42:27.860
woman but if you put like a more physically attractive girl right next to her like the
1.00
05:42:34.820
dude's probably going to want the really attractive girl but beautiful beauty a beautiful woman is a
1.00
05:42:40.340
status symbol yes no that's true that's true but we're talking i'm talking status like in your
05:42:45.220
career okay like yeah it's not on their top priorities for me like a guy can be butt ugly but if he's like
0.83
05:42:52.260
really fucking high status like i'm sure you guys can think of like rappers that probably have
0.93
05:42:57.220
like an endless supply of women they're not particularly physically attractive but they have status
1.00
05:43:03.700
and so men will pursue status and one of the ways they can do that is by having a really high
05:43:08.820
uh like a very respectable or high status career so that's another mating pressure being an expert
05:43:15.540
in something as i said expert expertise is sexy to women so i don't even have to i mean in today's
0.94
05:43:24.020
in today's age especially in the west it can be different domains of expertise that are attractive to
05:43:30.420
women who value those domains it don't necessarily have to be college or um politics but at the end of
1.00
05:43:37.140
the day women value status they value expertise they value skills oh sorry did you have more sorry
1.00
05:43:42.100
i didn't mean to cut you off now you good um nick can you pull up that same video really quick so i
05:43:46.980
just i want to get the other girls input on this yeah yeah let me just restart it i i just need the text i don't
05:43:55.780
uh if you're not getting spoiled by men in your hometown come to miami where pay your bills just
05:44:04.980
because you're pretty come on some dudes paid your bills just because you're pretty right they have
05:44:10.340
they have i'm curious like can you tell us the the deets we need the details ella we need the details
05:44:16.500
so like can you tell us walk us through you're 24 um can you list some of like maybe have you gotten
05:44:24.020
gifts vacations expensive dates oh you said your have you had your bills paid by a dude yeah like a
05:44:30.740
random dude no not a random like a guy you're mostly in relationships okay i see um what's some examples
05:44:37.060
of that um my past boyfriend uh he paid for my rent bills oh well your car i mean it's still a little
05:44:45.460
simpy but it's not simpy and you still broke up with him she
0.99
05:44:52.980
let that be a lesson fellas let that be a lesson can do all they say they say they want all
05:44:58.020
all this done i'm sure she has a reason why she broke up with him yeah of course but that doesn't
05:45:02.740
she probably broke up with him because he probably didn't meet her standards or she probably didn't
0.99
05:45:07.300
feel respected in some way maybe if you feel comfortable you could tell us why but i'm sure
05:45:12.100
she didn't do it that's fine that's fine um have you have you other girls have had that experience
05:45:18.020
where guys will just pull it up again what's it what did pay your bills rent like oh wait hold on
05:45:23.860
grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars women abuse fear power far more often oh they divorce
0.85
05:45:31.140
when bored and use kids against loving fathers women do not have the motivation or determination to do
1.00
05:45:38.020
the jobs men do then complain about it wow well i disagree okay okay i feel for a woman okay
05:45:46.020
naturally woman prioritize what like family their babies right for a woman to break that you know
1.00
05:45:52.660
that you know marriage and you know having have you know their kids you know without a father and you
05:45:59.220
know having you know you know her own children go through that trauma it takes a lot for their
05:46:04.740
women it takes a lot for a woman to break in marriages and i hate that you guys you know
0.84
05:46:10.260
make a scene that all women are just bored and we just end up relationships so you know because of
1.00
05:46:15.940
whatever and it's not like that like for a woman to break that marriage and sacrifice the childhood of
0.99
05:46:22.980
you know her own children it takes a lot what do you think the number one cause of divorces
1.00
05:46:27.540
causes of divorces the number one what do you what do you what do you think the number one cause of
05:46:31.700
divorces i will say it's cheating no it's not it's lack of commitment lack of commitment it's lack of
05:46:36.100
commitment and when it's lack of commitment period like the lack of commitment to the relationship
05:46:42.020
meaning they don't want to do the work they don't want to put in the work that comes in the marriage
05:46:47.060
when you ask them actually break the statement down the number one statement is we've grown apart
05:46:53.220
now does that sound like that has anything to do with duty or does that sound like that's on the
05:47:02.180
basis of her emotions her expectations her perceptions of the relationship how the marriage
05:47:08.580
makes her feel and then when you break that down more what's going on in that relationship what do you
05:47:13.940
think that stems from having unrealistic expectations going into the marriage to begin with
05:47:18.900
it's emotion i don't know the real causes of like you know here well let's this but we let's just
05:47:29.940
move i do have to move on uh yeah it takes a lot from a woman like a woman will try and try and try
1.00
05:47:37.940
to repair the relationship until she is worn out and she's abused and she feels like she can take it
05:47:44.580
anymore what's here going around the table on this because what's like the most simp thing guys
05:47:49.220
done for you i don't believe in simps like that doesn't exist generous what's the most expensive
05:47:53.860
thing a guy has early on has done for you i would say a car a what a car a how wait question how early
05:48:06.020
on did the guy buy you the car no no we were like in um like in a year relationship but like he didn't
05:48:12.900
pay for the whole car like he just helped me a little bit too with this life on easy mode okay um
05:48:23.300
my boyfriend actually helped me get my car out of the impound lot okay my tattoos
05:48:33.060
i think just like diamond earrings if i can think i was have my head okay
05:48:37.220
like jewelry too and like dinners obviously and this one man asked to fly me out but i said no
05:48:46.180
because like i don't know and that's did he find you from the podcast no okay no
05:48:52.740
i don't really have any examples except for tips at work like generous tips at work anything for you
05:48:59.620
i mean on a dinner okay have any of you had a sugar daddy show of hands sugar daddy
05:49:11.460
have you had a sugar daddy anybody anybody here no
05:49:14.500
i'm not a sugar daddy okay i've been a sugar mama oh there you go here let's do the next video
05:49:33.380
men's finances makes you more attractive sorry to tell you wait can you play it or it's just me
05:49:39.540
pose it just press oh that's fine uh if you think not caring about a man's finances makes you more
05:49:46.020
attractive sorry to tell you but men make fun of you behind your back um because you know what i
0.99
05:49:54.020
think men value women with standards men value women you know like you said you don't like women that
05:50:01.140
date multiple men and what is that an exclusive woman right a woman that keeps herself that it's you
1.00
05:50:06.580
know that it's now you know dating and having intimacy with a lot of men right so you value
05:50:12.900
exclusivity in a woman sure okay so women with standards are exclusive like we don't be just
1.00
05:50:20.340
stating whoever like we have a list of standards and boundaries and we choose you know the type of
05:50:26.820
men we want today based based on that so from the start we're cutting a lot of men right and so
05:50:35.860
actually not caring about your the men's finances is not caring about yourself it's not kidding about
05:50:40.340
your your future children we should have offered you a seat booster by the way um okay sorry sorry
05:50:45.300
sorry i'm just like what nothing nothing nothing um because ultimately um the lifestyle of the
05:50:53.540
partner that you choose is going to become your lifestyle because at some point you're going to have
05:50:57.780
to you know like not work can i have you tilt your microphone down just a teeny bit um you're
05:51:03.940
going to have to sacrifice men make so you're saying like men would make fun of a woman if she wanted
05:51:08.260
to do 50 50. i've seen men making fun of women i've seen men not respecting women not valuing women
05:51:14.260
like that i mean big mishas are you aware of the term big misha i think you guys know what i object to
05:51:22.260
this term pick me a pick me yeah oh i love that pick me yeah i'm gonna use that i don't think men make
05:51:30.020
fun of women who want to go 50 50. not necessarily make fun of them but will not value them and will not
0.72
05:51:36.260
respect them i disagree i mean it will walk all over that woman for sure because this is a it's
1.00
05:51:42.580
essentially a woman that doesn't respect herself and doesn't have his standards so a woman that
1.00
05:51:47.780
doesn't respect yourself won't pay i've never been walked over and i do pay 50 50. yeah that makes your
05:51:56.900
well i also never had experiences you guys had but what does that go to show with the men that you're
05:52:03.540
choosing then that i like to save myself and i have a rigorous list of standards that i go by
05:52:10.420
and i prioritize myself my well-being and therefore my standards protect prevent me from bad experiences
05:52:18.260
is your standards just them having money no i i think this idea though like
05:52:24.340
there could be a guy who's perfectly willing to be the sole breadwinner i don't think he that same
05:52:29.860
guy though would necessarily object to a woman also having a job that brings in income to the household
05:52:37.780
so i don't think that they would even if a guy is inclined to be the sole breadwinner i don't think
05:52:43.460
he would necessarily like turn down a girl who is open to 50 50. now obviously if he like really wants
05:52:53.380
a stay-at-home wife that's going to really take care of the children that could perhaps be a
1.00
05:52:58.260
component there but i mean i don't think men make fun of these women but we're not we can't linger too
0.98
05:53:08.980
it doesn't need to play um when he believes in two income household but i believe in multiple
05:53:13.460
vacations a year van cleef bracelets and all of my bills paid okay okay just being silly of course but
05:53:21.460
it um wait have you gotten that treatment by the way bank leaves yeah multiple vacations a year
05:53:35.300
still so that sounds like life on easy mode a little bit i think that's like oppression
05:53:39.940
sounds like pretty privileged to me oh it's not the the patriarchy i've seen women far
0.92
05:53:46.820
attractive like non-conventionally attractive and get pretty like like oh
05:53:51.220
i have a question for you on this how early into a relationship do you think a man should start
05:53:57.380
doing that stuff like because you say pay all of the bills multiple like vacations gifts you know
05:54:03.380
this van cleef bracelet i'm not familiar with the brand um how early do you think a guy should start
05:54:08.580
doing that um whenever he chooses whenever he wants to get serious with a girl well when would you expect it
05:54:17.380
like do you expect it like okay you should start paying all my bills like second date third date well
05:54:24.420
you know what i kind of understand that i have like crazy expectations but it's because i have
05:54:30.820
experienced them in the first place and i don't think you will have to blame me you will have to blame
05:54:37.220
the men that are giving me that type of treatment um but it's just it's based on the person it's you know
05:54:44.260
like it's based based on the person oh i i mean i don't doubt that i'm not expecting anything
05:54:49.300
actually like they're just giving you're they're just giving i'll take it
05:54:54.900
well hold on let's see the next remember ladies you're put on this earth to live in comfort and luxury
1.00
05:55:01.780
don't let a broke man convince you otherwise well hold on i thought you don't have any expectations but uh
05:55:08.260
if nick pull it back up really quick you're put on this earth to live in comfort and luxury ladies
05:55:16.180
and you expect them to pay for everything that's literally an expectation
05:55:21.540
wait i have a question for you are all ladies put on this earth to live in comfort and luxury
1.00
05:55:26.340
if they choose to yes what do you mean if they choose to if they choose to be you know a kept
05:55:31.220
woman and they want to live a soft life um they can go ahead and find a partner uh not a woman want
0.95
05:55:37.140
that and i'm no but you said all ladies you're you're remember ladies you're put on this earth
05:55:43.060
to live in comfort and luxury yeah um well she's speaking to her audience you know you don't have
05:55:52.020
to take it so literally well i mean i'm a man and i tend to take things at face value when people use
05:55:57.700
words i tend to take their word for it but um do you think all and also remember that men out there
05:56:04.420
some men out there are willing to give that to a woman and work and pursue careers so they can
05:56:12.180
attract a woman you know a more traditional woman like you said and they want to give that lifestyle
05:56:17.460
to that woman so if a woman it's you know but she wants that for her life she wants that to be her
0.76
05:56:22.900
lifestyle then why is her what is it wrong for her to want that and to attract that and actually
1.00
05:56:29.380
succeeding in achieving that but you said luxury so when i think of luxury i think of like luxury
05:56:35.220
comes in many forms like it doesn't have to be expensive you know luxury can be literally hold
05:56:40.580
on let me just google the definition of luxury here um the state of great comfort and extravagant uh living
05:56:51.060
and and and in this luxuries or luxury an inessential desirable item which is expensive or difficult to
05:56:57.780
obtain um so okay so my question is but do all women deserve luxury
1.00
05:57:09.220
deserve probably not but pull up the thing again pull it up
05:57:16.740
yeah don't don't switch until i tell you switch
05:57:18.420
you're put on this earth to live in comfort and luxury remember ladies i assume you're talking
05:57:29.060
myself ladies for my the woman that want that okay it's a message to them doesn't everybody want
05:57:36.820
luxury like i feel like so many women have been brainwashed by men to what
0.98
05:57:42.900
too long like not having high expectations like and i think i think to a certain extent i think
05:57:50.740
having high standards and high expectations are healthy to some extent why because those create
05:57:57.700
powerful leader men okay like you said before if women didn't have such high expectations you would
1.00
05:58:06.180
be lazy and do nothing all day every day no since we have this extender extenders we're like okay i have
05:58:14.180
to meet those and i have to work hard and i have to you know achieve things for you know to you know
05:58:20.340
attract that kind of woman so to some extent i think it's healthy you said you said luxury and comfort
1.00
05:58:28.500
i wouldn't say those are high expectations i would say definitely i would say it's unreasonable and
05:58:35.860
unrealistic and the reason i would say that is because a man has to attain a certain level of
05:58:42.180
status and income to provide that for a woman and the economy is competition so every man can't do
1.00
05:58:49.860
that there's only going to be a small percentage of men who can who can attain that level of
05:58:54.420
of provision for a woman and the fact that there can only be a certain level of men who pretend
05:58:59.300
attain that level of provision means they can only be a certain amount of women but i feel every man
05:59:03.780
should strive to to achieve that to be a competitor like um you know in the dating market because
05:59:11.860
if y'all are just making excuses and you know like pretending that all women should settle down
1.00
05:59:18.900
to mediocre standards i don't think that's but even if we do solving anything even if we do
05:59:23.940
strive to be that most men aren't going to become that which means most women aren't going to get
0.90
05:59:30.580
that comfort and luxury i don't know what to tell you well she's she desires comfort and luxury and it
05:59:37.220
seems like she's gotten that and i'm sure she has her valid reasons for leaving but it seems i'm not
05:59:42.420
talking about her specifically i'm talking about her saying remember ladies telling other women yeah
05:59:47.860
telling other women i'm saying that creates unrealistic expectations and that creates entitlement
05:59:54.500
no no no no no because i also teach women hey if you want to attract this kind of person you have to
06:00:01.220
you know appeal to them grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars if toxic daddy issues had a face
1.00
06:00:08.500
this girls would be it you deserve nothing you earn everything and it sounds like you intend to earn it on
0.99
06:00:15.220
your back bro well blame my dad then it just really seems like you don't have standards and you just
0.94
06:00:21.060
more so expect to be pampered and then if you aren't pampered you're just kind of like screw you i'm
0.84
06:00:27.140
gonna leave so you're literally given everything your entire life and you're saying that i don't have
06:00:31.540
standards yeah because you just you're going for the one who has the most money i don't know not necessarily
06:00:38.420
i don't know what the context of your relationship was but i feel like if you had standards like her i feel
06:00:44.180
like what happened to you wouldn't have happened like respectfully and i think that you guys don't
06:00:49.060
seem like you have your standards and that's why your old man stole your money in her case
0.98
06:00:54.260
her man wouldn't have stolen her money that she worked for you stole my money because i was disabled
0.87
06:00:59.220
and in a wheelchair when we were married for drugs too what does that have to do with that we're talking
06:01:06.260
about standards because i wasn't able to like talking about how you okay but so real quick
06:01:10.340
you're saying so if i had standards that it wouldn't have happened maybe you would have seen some red
06:01:15.620
flags and maybe you would have analyzed why he left you without saying anything and you wouldn't have
06:01:22.420
ever been with a man that would disrespect you like that because you would respect yourself and have
06:01:26.660
standards and honestly i feel like women's status is actually measured by being able to say no and hold
06:01:32.180
those standards yes and i think that actually men find that very attractive a woman's ability to say
06:01:38.260
no i think you're making yourself look like a joke okay you want to explain why because you're just
1.00
06:01:44.580
sounding fucking stupid you're talking about okay stop calling me stupid and stop saying i'm making
0.99
06:01:49.700
myself look like a joke and back it up with facts right now well okay you're just mad i actually do
1.00
06:01:55.540
have some facts about her so you don't even know how the relationship was in the first place and
06:02:00.340
honestly in my opinion i thought her fiance was better than a lot of other men that i've met in
06:02:06.740
this day and age he was always very good at communicating he actually genuinely showed no
06:02:11.540
red flags nothing at all he was very honest he would help all the time like you he was basically
06:02:18.980
everything that you guys are explaining that you want in a man and you're bashing on something when
06:02:22.900
in all reality what you guys just said that you would expect in a man is the one who actually just
06:02:28.260
up and dipped and then real quick didn't you say you respected yourself but then had one night
06:02:32.660
stance yeah that was me when i was an 18 year old girl that was me when i was an 18 year old girl
06:02:39.780
and people being a garden tool girl yeah sweetheart when i was a freshman in college that's even worse
06:02:48.820
yeah you don't have to be so negative i'm just saying you can learn from this and we're on here kind
06:02:53.860
of to learn from each other and i've learned so much so why don't you learn from her i'm saying
06:02:58.260
maybe if you actually listen to her and how she holds standards your ex-boyfriend or husband whatever
0.95
06:03:02.980
the fuck he was wouldn't have stolen your money and you wouldn't have been left with no explanation so
0.96
06:03:07.540
his drug addiction was like like a deter like a determined okay sorry so you're telling me so if you
1.00
06:03:14.820
start off a relationship with someone where they're completely normal right and then they flip a switch
06:03:20.820
switch that's my fault because they decided to dabble in drugs and they decided to steal my money so
06:03:26.420
that's my fault i'm really doubting you're saying like what if i stayed that would have been my fault
06:03:31.300
i left respectfully i really doubt that they were normal i think that red flags were probably missed
06:03:38.100
and that you were probably blinded by love like both of you but like i could be wrong sometimes people
06:03:43.460
can flip a switch but at least i was able to commit so you think if i had her standards of like having
06:03:49.780
men pay everything for me well that's just a little portion of it she also wants them to have like a
1.00
06:03:55.860
great personality and like nurture her and bring out her submissive great father oh but if but if i
0.80
06:04:01.140
pay for something then i have low standards okay but what is she offering the man why is the man going
06:04:06.100
to want people have their own preferences to pay why is the man going to want to do all this for her
06:04:11.540
what is bring brought to a table that is going to basically like you know make this man want to
06:04:17.700
support you want you to be the mother of your children like so what what's your guys envision then
06:04:22.180
of standards i think we've been talking about it all along do you want to address her what did you call
0.98
06:04:28.580
her i think you called her did you say call her stupid yeah i called her a joke oh you sorry that's
0.98
06:04:33.780
kind of rude don't you think i mean do you have a response to that yeah i do respectfully do you
0.99
06:04:39.700
look at yourself in the mirror every day and think respectfully do you do you look at yourself
0.96
06:04:44.340
in the mirror every day and listen to what you fucking say yeah like literally dude this entire
0.91
06:04:50.020
podcast you've been sounding like a joke oh no that's so cute thank you anyways do you want to
0.99
06:04:55.140
explain like why i was stupid wait we forgot she called herself a 10 earlier on oh yeah
0.97
06:05:01.060
okay we already addressed that thank you maybe i'm like a different number like i learned from
06:05:07.460
that and i don't know why thank you but okay anyways why can't you take the constructive criticism
06:05:15.860
because you're speaking about things you have no idea about you you i think i have a great idea
06:05:22.020
honestly do you yeah okay miss garden tool yeah keep calling me that okay yeah it won't get to me
06:05:32.980
but i'm glad it gives you a little thrill and adrenaline and dopamine or whatever
06:05:40.260
it's okay i'm sorry if that hurt you i just think that if you had why do you keep talking if you had
06:05:46.900
standards because we're on a podcast what are we here for to sit and be silent i don't wait for
06:05:52.100
brian to talk and ask questions it's it's a i think brian the whatever show it's not enjoying this and
06:05:57.300
he actually likes it when people go on tangents and i think he actually appreciates this right now he's
06:06:02.260
getting good content but to be honest what i'm trying to say more people join if you held greater
06:06:09.300
standards for yourself you probably wouldn't have been disrespected the way you were and sometimes
06:06:13.700
women who have high standards are indeed the ones who are able to leave their connections because
1.00
06:06:18.820
they hold those high standards and yeah i don't know thank you do you have a response it just sounds
06:06:26.820
like a joke to me that's a great response so having high standards is a joke having your standards is a
06:06:34.580
joke but what if well you want to smoke from everybody tonight
06:06:47.940
okay let's do another video um or wait no sorry i have more questions i have more questions let me
06:06:53.860
ask what percent of men do you think can provide women with comfort and luxury not a lot i'm aware of that
06:06:59.460
yeah but i'm also not gonna settle down for mediocrity um word so like what do you practically propose
06:07:08.660
though because like do swaths of women ignore the majority of men and pursue a small percent
06:07:13.860
of rich men who can provide comfort and luxury so like should rich men just have like 50 wives can
06:07:20.420
provide that like if he has a good job yes average men can't provide luxury well not luxury but
06:07:27.620
it wouldn't be considered luxury okay but leave the luxury here here's the economic reality here's the
06:07:33.460
economic reality the majority of people are going to have to have a household where both uh both men
06:07:42.500
and women are providing that's just you're gonna need two incomes really well he needs to get to have
1.00
06:07:49.300
a family he's got what he needs to get two jobs because i'm not bringing in an income no look if you can
06:07:55.860
find a guy that's willing to provide that's fine but just the sheer economic a second job but the
06:08:01.620
sheer economic reality is that for most people most households in order if you want to have kids and
06:08:07.620
have a family you're gonna need two incomes and you know why i say that so confidently and because my
06:08:13.540
father okay he migrated three different countries like he was you know like he came from a poor background
06:08:21.540
right and he made it and i've never seen my mom having to pick up a job like he always you know
06:08:29.940
sacrifice and you know pick up on jobs and stuff you know to make ends meet and it worked out and he likes
06:08:37.060
it like that my mom is comfortable and now we leave in you know well my family leaves you know in a more
06:08:44.180
in a better position right now and that's how i was brought up like i never see my mom working okay
06:08:52.260
all right we got another video here we got another video did it
06:08:58.100
if he can't provide for you is it gonna play or no is it if he can't provide for you then he's not
06:09:04.020
worthy of trust don't trust him with your heart nor your body okay um and what do you mean by trust
06:09:11.940
him with your body do you mean have sex with him with a with a man that hasn't earned those privileges
0.62
06:09:18.900
you mean but you said pull it back up nick if he can't provide for you then he's not worthy of
0.99
06:09:25.460
having sex with you no basically what you're saying yes um
0.97
06:09:32.740
so you only have sex with men who provide who are in committed relationships with me and provide for
0.99
06:09:43.780
prostitution with extra steps that's i mean i don't know how is that prostitution when i'm in
06:09:48.180
a committed relationship monogamous relationship i'm joking a little bit but uh but okay next video
06:09:56.980
i don't care what a dusty has to say at the end of the day they will never know what it's like
06:10:07.220
wake up to what so play it again play just i do what is like to wake up to a 500 deposit from a man
06:10:16.820
just because because have you had that yeah a guy just it's new york like they just but is this a man
06:10:24.180
you're dating or just like a dude i was talking to him and you know we went on a date and yeah i
06:10:32.340
mean he's he's just i woke up and he was like hey a little something for you i've been thinking about
06:10:38.740
you little something so where do you meet these guys um i i'm not on dating apps i used to be on
06:10:46.740
dating apps so you find you know some of them there but i don't like dating ads at all so i just go out
06:10:52.900
two bars wait question so you went on one date with this guy yeah and he but we've been talking
06:10:58.100
like i've known him for a while like actually i met him in college and then we stopped talking and
06:11:04.820
then we started talking again so so for like he just sent you 500 because yeah sounds like life on
06:11:15.460
easy mode like literally life on easy mode but it doesn't happen all the time so how often it's not
06:11:21.540
easy like how often does that happen if it was monthly but it's not how often has it happened
06:11:28.580
not not a lot of times just maybe two three times okay and new york is expensive let me tell you so like
06:11:36.660
five hundred dollars yes it it's substantial amount i'm aware but it's it doesn't cover a lot
0.99
06:11:42.740
in new york these simps are ruining dating ruining dating holy fuck bruv just sending a chick 500 just
1.00
06:11:56.100
because here you go here's five you have never seen miami man oh yeah i know they're tricking um
0.99
06:12:03.460
is that the term to trick i thought it was it ain't tricking if you got it i don't get it
06:12:10.180
oh you never heard that i've heard that term but i'm not sure what that means okay next video
06:12:18.500
that's it that's all of them i have better ones wait really is that all of them the dusty one
06:12:25.540
you can't provide put on this earth to live in luxury all of your bills paid if you think that can't
06:12:31.940
make fun oh yeah okay um wait so i have a question right so um do you question for the table i guess
06:12:40.900
um do you think broke men should not date they can date oh okay they can of course but
06:12:49.300
you're gonna get your feelings hurt why because you don't have
06:12:58.100
what it what it takes to compete with other men and then you're gonna grow resentful woman which i've
06:13:04.340
seen it before you know and men hitting a woman and being really disrespectful and rude when we have
06:13:11.380
standards even like medium to high standards like reasonable standards men will go crazy and say that
06:13:18.980
all women are gold diggers and we have like incredible like expectations of in dating and i think a man
1.00
06:13:28.820
should have his financial you know status right before entering the dating market because a broke man
06:13:38.740
unfortunately it's not desirable in a in the free dating market okay um the same way in an
06:13:48.580
unattractive woman it's not as desirable in the dating market yeah that's fair that is fair um
1.00
06:13:56.740
so you're okay with poor people or broke people dating just not you you don't want them to date you is
06:14:02.980
what you're saying kind of yeah and that's but that's what the thing is though is that you're like
06:14:07.860
it sounds like you're advising or suggesting women not date and i also want to clarify like i'm not lazy
06:14:14.260
i'm running a hair business i'm doing tiktok like i'm moving i'm doing you're hustling i'm hustling i came
06:14:22.180
here that's right shout out to ella i made it happen she made it happen i made it happen she made it so
06:14:32.340
you know like as a woman that is you know trying to level up in in all areas of my life like i'm
06:14:38.580
expecting the same in my partner okay all right well i think those are it for my notes on that um
06:14:46.660
i think uh trying to think hold on let me just double check here oh wait what question for you
06:14:53.700
well you said it's fine for broke men to date so yeah okay i was gonna ask if it's should overweight
06:14:59.940
women not date but but that's not your position you think it's fine i i think it's fine if over
1.00
06:15:07.860
women want to date that's totally fine just not me okay no because i'll date a chubby asian chick
1.00
06:15:15.460
i'll date a chubby asian chick let me put it like this because it also goes for women obviously like
1.00
06:15:20.420
if you want to have a good outcome when like asian women when in dating no i'm not talking about asian
1.00
06:15:26.420
oh so sorry i'm talking about like maybe women aren't who are not fit or who are you know let
1.00
06:15:32.180
themselves go or something like that you know make sure you you correct those things make sure you work
06:15:37.300
on yourself you hit the gym you know like you want to present the best version of yourself so you can
06:15:42.580
get the best men so that's that's my take yeah uh yeah guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a
06:15:53.380
follow drop us a prime sub if you have one if you have amazon prime you link it to your twitch
06:15:57.700
quick free easy way to support the show every single month guys twitch.tv slash whatever thank you
06:16:02.420
guys not it's okay um shoot sorry one of your guys's chats fell off i'm going to read some of the
06:16:08.100
chats there sorry that we're getting to these a bit late but yo way off base hey thank you man
06:16:13.140
appreciate it sorry that it took us a while to get to your chat it is social issue both feminism
0.76
06:16:17.140
and red pills war on the opposite sex is stupid driving people apart these topics are talked about
06:16:21.700
ad nauseum what do you think would be a viable would be a viable solution well first off if men and
0.99
06:16:29.620
women agree that hookup culture is bad we obviously have to stigmatize said hookup culture we have to
1.00
06:16:34.980
shame like like she said like jordan said bring shame back um we need to reprioritize a better social order
0.82
06:16:46.820
you know okay thank you man i appreciate it um did anybody want to answer this like quick answer
06:16:55.460
oh you guys can't see it um what's a viable solutions
06:17:03.060
openly communicating like we are right now that's touching some people might take it too much to
06:17:10.100
heart but i'm sure like your main goal behind this whole thing and why you started it clearly was
06:17:14.020
because of your past like experiences and i feel like you want to share the wisdom like okay sorry
06:17:20.660
you know what i mean like we're here to share wisdom you know what i mean and just have open
06:17:26.740
conversations and it's like you know just hear sides of the opposite sex and i think even just having
06:17:32.260
conversation with like your opposite sex friends about this stuff and realizing that men and women both
06:17:38.580
have grievances just i think communication is a good solution within a relationship or in general
06:17:48.660
that was beautiful thank you wait sorry so hold on i just want to okay way off base i'm very sorry
06:17:56.340
i'm not it's not coming up so i'm not able to trigger it but he wrote he loves you he will forgive
06:18:01.700
you causing others to sin is wrong by creating just that is what you are doing yes everyone sins
06:18:08.260
but admonishing each other for wrongdoing isn't wrong
06:18:14.340
that's directed at you oh me sorry way off base it will stream labs will not let me re-trigger it so
06:18:19.940
i just i know it won't display on stream but i am able to read it like my exes or something i think
0.73
06:18:27.780
they meant like with you doing porn the whole porn and god first and wearing a cross and a cross tattoo
0.63
06:18:39.220
all right i don't know i'm not gonna make any progress there um and then i hold on one sec let
06:18:44.580
me get through these chats uh and then what do you guys think is a viable solution to everyone's
06:18:50.660
dating woes from way off base here is there a solution
06:18:57.780
honestly in today's society in today's society everyone's just gonna do what they want so
06:19:08.660
like we can honestly say a million solutions but in all reality the world's gonna keep turning and
06:19:14.580
things are just gonna keep progressing yeah and i think it's like you shouldn't be scared to date
06:19:20.820
either like you not dating for five years i think you should like give it one more try i don't know
06:19:28.740
i'm not actively seeking that so it's just not a priority right now
06:19:33.460
yeah i respect that but i don't think being like not wanting to date or being scared to date
06:19:40.420
you should like be like that i think you should want to just i don't know interact with humans i
06:19:46.500
think that's kind of club and have a foursome accidentally i don't think we were not put on
06:20:03.380
are you talking about foursomes or what are we talking about here i'm talking about like i don't
06:20:07.060
think that i was put on this earth to not do procreate and like oh sorry sorry
06:20:13.460
wait is that what hold on is that what you were put on earth to do is to make only fans content
06:20:23.140
i don't think that was like my mission but that's just what i'm doing so that is your mission oh my
06:20:29.540
god this girl okay all right we got jrod here 70 divorce is initiated by why 50 of divorced wives
1.00
06:20:36.900
never want to remarry only 30 of men have same sentiment yes most divorces are initiated by women
06:20:43.380
why men effed up they go back to buffet um men effed up they go back to the buffet
06:20:54.260
like the pool a dating pool yeah is that what they go back to the buffet interesting
06:21:01.380
okay all right there you have it um let me just double check here go ahead so there was one comment
06:21:07.620
um like those things that pop up that said that um a lot of women which is true a lot of women don't
1.00
06:21:14.900
want to do a lot of the same hard labor work as jobs but you shouldn't say all women because i know
0.93
06:21:20.420
that i myself i've worked in construction i've worked in the fields and i've done exterior home renovations
06:21:26.420
so you can't really stigmatize it to all women you said he said a lot true most women yeah so he didn't
06:21:35.140
say all did he not say all wait let me ask you a question so you say you do construction you're on the
06:21:40.500
fields right when you're on a construction site or doing a construction gig what percentage are men
06:21:48.180
majority okay so most would you say most then yeah okay well i mean a lot of the women work behind
1.00
06:21:58.580
the scenes more of like in the office and stuff like in the company itself there is still a lot
06:22:03.300
of women that do work in the construction company just not actively out like laying down the concrete
1.00
06:22:08.100
that's not you're not like actually doing the construction if you i mean like the accountant but
06:22:17.620
no i'm sure you were but most women don't want those jobs that's that's the that's because they're
1.00
06:22:22.900
enough for women that is the the joke of feminism you can only have feminism when there's comfortable
1.00
06:22:28.020
air-conditioned office jobs you can't have feminism when it's like brutal physical labor
1.00
06:22:33.540
so this whole idea women weren't allowed to work 200 years ago uh bruv you wouldn't have wanted to
1.00
06:22:41.860
work 200 fucking years ago work was like back but why denied the act like why deny women from you know
0.95
06:22:52.020
working i don't know why even i women really weren't even you if you wanted to i suppose you could have
1.00
06:22:57.060
worked but why the laws were made so there weren't laws could not there weren't laws there were there
06:23:02.100
weren't laws there were like women slaves building the pyramids and stuff too who's well who's physically
1.00
06:23:09.700
stronger men or women technically men what do you mean technically men men because over okay so there
06:23:16.180
are certain instances where let's say you have a male males are born on average 35 percent more muscle
06:23:22.340
mass than females straight out of the womb that's just science that's a fact right but actually hold on
1.00
06:23:28.980
before puberty i think there's actually and i actually might be wrong on this but my understanding
06:23:34.740
is actually before puberty like it's i think it's pretty equal between boys and girls before puberty
06:23:42.180
i could be wrong i i'm not an expert there's still a muscle mass percentage difference am i wrong chat i
06:23:48.420
could be wrong i'm let's look it up i think i thought there wasn't a huge difference it's not it's not
06:23:53.860
until puberty because that's when puberty starts that's when uh testosterone starts to heighten and
06:23:59.060
there's still a difference straight out of the womb though i'm sure i'm sure but like genetically it
06:24:06.420
is muscle it's muscle it's i'm pretty sure it's muscle mass or muscle capacity but i do know that
06:24:13.380
male babies are born straight out of the womb with more muscle mass than a female but let's say that man
1.00
06:24:19.380
specifically let's say he doesn't work out all the time or maybe he does moderately right if you have
06:24:24.980
a woman right that's eating the correct diet going to the gym every day she's benching like 250 she's
1.00
06:24:31.460
gonna be stronger than that guy that's just wearing bench 250 i used to when i played football in high
06:24:36.420
school you benched 250 i did look at her muscles i played d tackle in boys football it's a baby now i
06:24:41.780
haven't worked out in years okay i have not worked out hey well first off impressive good for you
06:24:46.500
you got you got guns but um no but but okay you're like an outlier in that case if you can
06:24:54.260
out bench some guy who well it came from years of working out is what i'm saying anyone can do it
06:25:01.460
it just takes dedication wait how did you play football did you go to like a school yeah did i go
06:25:07.380
to a school where like women could play football can you oh yeah in southern california is a different
1.00
06:25:12.820
year i was just wondering no any female can apply like can try out football sorry no pull your mic
1.00
06:25:19.620
close to the edge um i think women are not barred from playing football but the reality is it's such a
0.99
06:25:26.660
physically like intense sport that they're just not temperamentally drawn to it and there's a certain
06:25:34.980
like they're gonna get they're gonna get hurt what position did you play i played d tackle and i was a
06:25:41.460
starter nice you were you paid d tackle and i was a starter is that the defensive is wait are you on
06:25:52.580
the defensive end yes i was on the defensive line okay i'm right next to the center cool on defense
06:26:00.260
yeah i played d tackle did your team lose no actually i was i transferred from tesoro high
06:26:08.020
school which was a d1 school to rancho buena vista which was a d3 school so i actually helped them
06:26:13.460
bring up their standing jv or varsity um it was jv but i was a freshman okay so sounds like affirmative
06:26:23.460
action or some i don't know i just i get really involved in stuff and i like what i do i like physical
06:26:29.460
things i like working out i like being outdoors i like doing construction i like doing hard physical
06:26:34.900
labor because it makes me feel good that's cool wait but generally speaking men are physically
06:26:42.580
stronger than women they can be what do you mean they can be they are i'm not saying that there's
06:26:48.500
like they have more testosterone in their muscles which allows them to become stronger and develop
06:26:53.940
muscle mass easier it also depends on a lot of things because women can still be as strong as men
1.00
06:27:02.660
it just takes work let me ask you let me ask you a question no no let me ask you a question
06:27:09.140
using what you just said there is the strongest woman does she have does any woman any woman in
06:27:15.300
the world have the capacity to be as strong as the strongest man in the world
06:27:22.260
it depends on what on a lot of factors well okay wait are we talking about like actually or are we
06:27:30.500
talking about just like hypothetically because like actually actually yeah with steroids no and
06:27:37.860
with intensive training no and work naturally naturally probably not if they were both the
06:27:45.300
strongest but i do believe that i do believe that there is a way to become stronger have we actually
06:27:54.260
like even tested this is there actually like knowledge based on two weeks on this thesis yeah two
06:28:00.820
weeks wait so you think okay let me just ask the question one more time do you think that any woman
1.00
06:28:06.980
in the world could be as strong as the strongest man in the world i guess technically no don't walk it back
06:28:18.740
i mean well okay with steroids and a bunch of other stuff okay let's say there's a man on steroids and
06:28:26.980
there's a woman on steroids who's going to be stronger okay then technically the man actually i would
0.98
06:28:32.420
be prepared to argue that the strongest natural guy who's never taken steroids he's going to be stronger
1.00
06:28:39.460
than the woman who's pumped full of steroids even with that uh shit what's the term even with that
1.00
06:28:46.980
advantage a woman on steroids she's not even gonna even then isn't going to be as strong as the
1.00
06:28:52.820
strongest natural guy so even if i concede to you that yes we can we'll come we'll have a woman who's
06:29:01.540
on steroids and have her compete against a guy who's just natural strength no steroids he's still
0.98
06:29:06.980
gonna fucking scorch her in like various lifts certainly in a fight he'll fuck her up i don't think
1.00
06:29:12.260
what the will while she's on like if he's not on steroids and she is that might be a little
0.99
06:29:16.820
different but like if they're both like on equal playing ground then yeah he would beat her even if
06:29:21.540
she has this handicap of taking steroids she's still not going to be stronger than him where's your
0.95
06:29:28.900
evidence where's my what do you mean my evidence it hasn't been tested so you know for a fact look at
06:29:35.060
natural bodybuilding if you compare a male natural bodybuilder to a female steroid bodybuilder
0.55
06:29:44.580
just his physical size is going to be larger anyways in addition like if you probably look at their lifts
06:29:55.780
why don't you look up the world records for lifting
06:29:57.860
with women versus men and look at the disparity right now yes if brian oh but if brian allow you
06:30:06.180
but why don't you do that why don't you look at the disparity look at the female bench press
1.00
06:30:10.020
well that's what i was planning on doing after look at the male bench press record and look at how much
06:30:15.140
more the male's bench press record is world record than the woman's this is the plan wait so do you okay
0.97
06:30:20.180
you think that a woman on steroids but that's actually like not just steroids but has actually like
1.00
06:30:26.580
actively been training been lifting for a majority of time actively pushing herself to be stronger
06:30:34.980
oh she has the ability to she has the ability to be stronger than a portion of men yeah absolutely
1.00
06:30:42.260
but if you were to compare her to a guy who's not on steroids who's been i'm not even going to say
06:30:48.500
training the same amount of time but that would be the fair comparison uh just a guy who's been
0.55
06:30:53.220
lifting for fuck i don't know i i can't put i i mean this is very speculative let's just compare
0.83
06:31:02.660
a guy who's been training for 10 years not on steroids versus a woman who's been training for 10
0.99
06:31:07.060
years on steroids that guy's gonna be able to lift more than she is
1.00
06:31:12.020
that's how great the disparity is between our strengths yeah but it also depends on like that
06:31:23.220
female's testosterone levels too because it doesn't matter you can still have x y chromosomes and have
1.00
06:31:28.100
a higher testosterone spike and do you know how much more testosterone men have than women
06:31:32.500
a bit but there's also a bit a bit it's exponentially at this point it's exponentially more wait am i
06:31:42.980
chat am i am i wrong like don't just side with me because i'm you like my podcast or whatever um a
06:31:49.620
guy let's say a guy who they're both like very serious about the gym is a guy who's never taken
06:31:56.420
steroids going to be stronger than a woman who takes steroids they're training the same amount of time
1.00
06:32:05.700
oh we got courtesy sundas corley on donated 200 when women in combat roles was tested in the usmc
06:32:13.460
they did an experiment eyewitnessed a wm who lifted weights tried to lift to artillery round
06:32:20.020
couldn't do it a 170 pounds male private could do it okay but was she like trained to do that like i mean
1.00
06:32:36.180
anyways what we're getting at good point curtis is that men tend to be stronger than women
06:33:02.260
if you can yeah so this is male high school athletes versus female olympians if boys went
06:33:10.580
against the fastest women is it fair for males okay whatever um so the overall medal count so
06:33:18.260
this is if high school boys were allowed to compete high school boys not male olympians high school boys
06:33:26.500
were allowed to compete in the olympics hold on well that's related to certain things but
06:33:32.740
that's all the medals that they would steal from women if high school boys can compete against women
1.00
06:33:42.020
the top athlete the top female athletes scroll down a little bit we're just going to react to a few
06:33:46.260
that's for speed though i mean but sprint sprinting is related to your
06:33:55.060
that you generate yes like have you seen sprinters slow twitch or did i say fast twitch
06:33:59.940
fast twitch is i might have well you'll you'll have to excuse me i might have mixed the two up
06:34:05.540
slow twitch is when you have lifting typically big muscles right so
06:34:09.940
slow twitch fibers are the muscles that you use when you're doing
06:34:16.740
wait fast twitch is that what sprinters have or is it slow twitch i thought it was fast
06:34:21.540
sprinters have fast i thought sprinters have fast twitch sprinters have fast twitch i think i was
06:34:27.860
in any case i have lifting records yeah no i was right fast twitch have you seen like if you
0.81
06:34:33.860
compare all the women in the hospital and most of them went in that's true damn they're professional
1.00
06:34:39.460
fighter so if you look at sprinters they're super ripped despite it being a race right speed race
0.73
06:34:49.460
they're like super muscular even their upper bodies you're right but if you look at like
06:34:54.580
distance runners they're typically like very thin and don't have a lot of uh muscle buildup muscle
06:35:07.060
so i think it's actually pull it up nick the boy it's actually very fair to compare like a sprint
06:35:13.620
for example as evidence of like fast twitch muscle fiber
06:35:18.900
bear in mind these are high school boys 400 meters 800 meters anyways there's this this goes on and on
06:35:24.660
all the boys steal all the gold medals from women the top female athletes in the entire world just the us
0.99
06:35:30.980
high school boys alone the 5000 meters actually women edge out a little bit because there's some weird
1.00
06:35:36.340
differential for long distance running but yoho bone man dude thank you you're fucking
0.99
06:35:45.300
that's what i'm talking about that's why he's leaving me that's why he's the goat thank you about
0.99
06:35:51.220
you're a fucking legend thank you dude um word do you how oh my god hello huh
0.99
06:36:01.140
so women are stronger than men is what you're saying well apparently not but i thought with
0.99
06:36:11.060
hormones and everything that you could potentially be stronger than men i don't know i've met a lot of
06:36:16.100
men that i was stronger than so no but yes like of course a woman can be stronger than a man but if we're
06:36:22.580
like comparing averages like averages like that average the average woman to the average woman or
06:36:30.900
like a really physically fit women woman if you compare her to a really physically fit man
1.00
06:36:37.380
like say the top bodybuilders or the top power lifters the men are still gonna like natural bodybuilders
06:36:45.140
or natural power lifters would probably probably still lift more and i think do lift more than even
06:36:53.220
women are juiced up i mean probably now that i just saw the actual statistic i mean i had already said
1.00
06:37:00.740
that initially out of the womb that genetically men were stronger than women the question was if a woman
0.99
06:37:06.500
could become stronger than a man so i am now conceding because i was wrong because we just saw the
06:37:11.940
statistics that that is not possible but i thought the question was if not are they
06:37:19.220
if i don't even know how we got there to be honest but um of course there are women that can be
1.00
06:37:25.140
there's there's women that are strong stronger than me but am i pro am i stronger than probably
1.00
06:37:34.420
how much can you press brian well here's the like here's the reality i have i have chronic pain
06:37:43.780
issues i've got um i've got neck pain i've got back pain i have i've had major injuries um i'm pretty
0.96
06:37:52.980
i live a pretty lethargic life i um let's see i don't really exercise much i eat like shit i could
0.94
06:38:01.620
probably beat up like 95 percent of women like not that i would want to not that i would want to
0.78
06:38:10.100
but like granted i wrestled for two years in high school that uh already puts me yeah that helps but
06:38:16.980
that muscle memory maybe 99 of women i don't know it's probably 99 yeah it's probably 99 i've got a
0.51
06:38:23.620
fucking dad bod and i haven't lifted in a long ass time and i'm old and i've got knee pain and neck
0.96
06:38:28.740
pain and back pain i'd probably like still score not that i'm like trying to fight chicks and
1.00
06:38:33.860
shit i'd probably scorch them up in a fight because i'm physically stronger than them and i weigh more
0.96
06:38:39.940
and i'm physically larger i'm six foot one so what percentage of women are six foot one is probably
1.00
06:38:48.900
like less than one percent so i mean shoot technically your height's got a little bit of a disadvantage in
06:38:54.100
fighting just a tiny bit like a like fighting a woman because she's a lot shorter than six feet
1.00
06:39:00.420
are you saying she can like hit me in the goods or some shit yeah like the kneecaps they're right
1.00
06:39:05.380
there they're right there and then you you have to like bend down the ground i mean i have longer i
0.98
06:39:10.020
have more reach she could go under you you know in a fight like if you have further reach that that's a
1.00
06:39:16.340
benefit i was joking okay whatever i was joking okay okay um good times good times um
0.99
06:39:28.100
i thought i have the uh what's it called fuck i have the high ground it's always good to have
0.99
06:39:34.820
the high ground like in a fight you know like you're playing like fortnite and shit like you want to have
0.99
06:39:40.180
the high ground man you want you want love that's never mind okay um i'm trying to think oh i had a
0.99
06:39:47.940
question um who here wants the guy to pay for the first date you you you you you jordan no no you oh
06:39:58.900
you want to go 50 50 okay it kind of depends so i think i think in this day and age it should be 50 50
06:40:05.300
oh okay oh but if it was way back when i would say the man back in the day back in the day question
06:40:11.620
for all the all those of you who said what did you raise your hand on this one yes i did just wasn't
06:40:16.500
you and jordan um will you take your husband's last name if you guys get married yes hyphenating
06:40:26.020
hyphenating you're gonna hyphenate but you want the guy to pay for the first date
06:40:28.660
as long as it's less than 50 okay yes yes yes okay all right that's fair that's fair i did not
06:40:46.020
cool okay what's my last sorry guys i need to find my last note here we have jrod construction
06:40:51.700
wouldn't happen without female administration bts even though they don't do heavy lifting
1.00
06:40:57.780
comparable to trad dads a gentleman would respect the women in front of him especially if they pay
0.92
06:41:03.620
your bills repeat man word okay cool um good times yeah i think i mean i was just saying like the women
0.98
06:41:12.980
who are doing like the administrative work they're not actually doing the construction they're doing
06:41:17.940
administrative work in the construction field like if i'm a janitor at apple it doesn't mean i'm a
06:41:26.820
software engineer um i'm not in the engineering field i'm in the janitorial field um so okay oh
06:41:39.060
body count does should body count matter does body count matter how about this do you object to when
06:41:47.540
excuse me do you object to men caring about body count starting with you we'll go around the table i don't
0.92
06:41:52.500
object if that's a preference uh you prefer women with lower body counts that's totally fine
1.00
06:41:59.860
it's their own personal opinion i really don't do you think it's like insecure they're insecure no i
06:42:05.540
just think it's their own personal preference of what they want okay i don't think it should matter
06:42:13.060
okay i think it's unnecessary to know a woman's body count it's unnecessary to know like a man shouldn't
0.75
06:42:19.380
ask that i think that's like someone's private information but what if they're wanting to be in
06:42:25.700
a relationship with you i'm not gonna lie i'd probably lie though oh i probably lie about my
06:42:33.060
number my number is not high or nothing i would just lie because i feel like i would if he's already
06:42:38.420
asking me he's i feel like he's already has an idea of a number in his head i mean i appreciate your
06:42:45.460
honesty but uh this is why when a girl if she does tell you your body count you might not she might
0.91
06:42:52.100
not being honest so nobody here is going to tell me that if they got asked they would actually tell
06:42:58.580
the truth nobody here some girls really low i've been with three people uh what about you um i think
06:43:09.540
i think it's the same principle as us wanting men that can provide for us so i think it's right for
06:43:15.940
like a guy to care about a woman's body count because i think that's a way to measure a man's
1.00
06:43:21.940
like value is if he can provide financially and i think a woman's value can also be judged in her
0.93
06:43:27.780
ability to say no especially to like sexual encounters good answer thank you i think it's a fair question
06:43:36.580
well fair question but do you do you object because there's men typically prefer women who
06:43:45.140
have low body counts or non-promiscuous do you object to that to men wanting a girl with a low
0.99
06:43:50.260
body count no i don't object to that okay jordan nobody no i don't object okay uh so going around
06:43:56.980
the table what's everybody's body count starting with madison okay we'll start with you and then go
06:44:08.260
around this way what kind of question is that what do you mean i don't feel like you ask that to a lady
0.72
06:44:15.940
and i don't feel comfortable responding to that not because it's high but i don't i think that's between
06:44:42.020
it's actually three i didn't know hers was three but mine's actually three so
06:44:46.260
your friend is running out on your throwing you under the bus
06:44:58.420
the girls count too the girls do not count
0.73
06:45:05.700
were there more than three guys the girls blink blink twice if there's more than three guys it's
1.00
06:45:10.820
girls it's girls it's girls that counts three for you wait girls count yes girls count girls count
06:45:31.700
why would girls not count well i feel like everyone's like can't necessarily lose your virginity
06:45:41.380
to a girl well did you though no because technically like the definition of losing your virginity
06:45:50.980
doesn't i guess you're you people have their own definition your p and the v virginity is intact but
0.99
06:45:56.820
you've had sex so well masturbating is technically like having sex not really
0.99
06:46:05.540
so funny what is it you want to tell us not if she doesn't want me to fine nine women oh well
0.99
06:46:14.660
six women six okay okay gotcha what about you i'm not gonna answer that respectfully i thought you said
06:46:19.780
body count doesn't matter i'm not gonna answer that respectfully
06:46:28.180
i would prefer to not share such personal information wait you shared it last up
06:46:32.420
last episode and i will say if anyone cares and wants to look back at the last i remember here i'll
06:46:37.380
just say it was it was five well it's one more than that then okay because you you were on like
06:46:44.980
a year plus ago i think right like a year yeah i was in like october oh okay 2022 you guys are friends
06:46:52.900
right yeah yes did you tell him the truth do you tell him the truth oh are you asking if he's asking
06:47:06.740
okay what about you i'd prefer not to share i'm not really comfortable sharing that okay jordan
06:47:12.980
um that's something i would be sharing with my partner
0.98
06:47:18.900
okay all right okay gentlemen what are you guys didn't fucking share you guys share jack
0.99
06:47:25.140
shit wait i think that's a conversation with my partner you will share if here if y'all share q will
0.99
06:47:36.180
well i've heard come on just throws q under the bus
06:47:39.460
us if i just if you reveal how about this we'll do one for one we'll make it fair i don't care to
06:47:45.380
know what anyone's body count here how about you you want to do a trade you want to do the trade
06:47:49.380
people want to know the people's champ want to know okay um it's funny to see how
06:47:57.780
can men lie to inflate numbers and women like to decrease those numbers can we guess and you
06:48:05.860
guys tell us if it's not only on body counts and also three other areas three for who for who either
06:48:14.260
or both of us yeah you think they have three i'm gonna say q is like eight definitely eight to ten
0.59
06:48:23.780
his face he's like wait q how old are you i'm 30 oh shit never mind i'm gonna say like 15 to 20.
0.78
06:48:31.540
i think your body count is probably i'd say eight to ten
0.98
06:48:41.380
the way you were describing how you like your relationships
06:48:43.940
he's definitely a player no no i don't think i mean i'm gonna say like six for a while hot or cold
06:49:07.620
four five six seven brian how old are you 34. i'm on some boomer shit
0.99
06:49:18.820
okay okay maybe he's eight to ten you're three years younger than my mom
0.93
06:49:24.900
how old's your mom she's like 37. i can't do math she's how old like 37. she's single
1.00
06:49:32.180
you don't want that don't what no i'm just kidding no she's actually not single um she has a boyfriend
0.87
06:49:55.060
did you know your dad uh i met him like a couple years ago
06:49:59.380
i found him on facebook that's what your that's what your mom told you or your dad told you my
06:50:05.460
dad told me my mom was just kind of like yeah i know him i was like okay
06:50:13.860
cool she's like yeah i know him i was like okay then i found him on facebook and i was like
06:50:19.220
hey you're my dad he's like okay it's like cool hopefully she was like a present figure in
06:50:26.260
your life though it's beautiful it's touching nikki right nicole sorry i said nikki's my nickname
0.98
06:50:32.180
oh nikki's your nickname we got two nickies we got nikki's right next to each other right
0.95
06:50:37.060
next to each other okay any final thoughts before i wrap up the show guys
06:50:47.380
or don't it's actually pretty cool it's pretty nifty to look at
06:50:51.060
i believe it was yeah is it a five year is it a five year i knew there was a five in there
06:50:58.820
somewhere though a five in here wow that's probably where i got confused i'm a free spirit
06:51:05.540
what why you go to nikki's bio wait question go to nikki's question link in bio link in bio
06:51:11.620
are you you're kind of are you a latina or are you asian yeah i was i'm wondering i'm trying
06:51:18.900
to figure this shit out i'm wondering the same thing i'm hawaiian japanese and panamanian
0.96
06:51:29.140
oh it's like a mix kind of so you're latina like the panama yeah
0.97
06:51:33.860
my dad's panamanian that's fire that's where my boyfriend's place oh really yeah that's my dad
06:51:40.660
um the lasting thought i have is that i feel like people in general nowadays need to be less
06:51:49.460
sensitive and open to criticism because i learned a lot being here and i feel like a lot of people
06:51:54.100
couldn't can't handle something like this instead of taking it as like constructive criticism or
06:52:00.420
actually opening their mind everyone just assumes they're right but i learned a lot and i'm grateful
06:52:05.380
for it and yeah thank you guys thank you thank you for coming a lot of people
06:52:18.980
granted i'm kind of toxic as fuck so whatever it's all good like whatever that's the point
0.96
06:52:22.340
too at the same time that's the point you gotta make it into yeah you gotta make it i'm actually
0.97
06:52:26.820
i'm pretty spicy man i'm pretty tame not gonna not gonna lie compared to some other
06:52:31.380
uh a lot of people don't want to wait okay actually a question for you so you're like local
06:52:38.020
right like here in santa barbara yes question for you yes
1.00
06:52:44.980
oh fuck i don't want to ask never mind don't be a pussy oh my god no it's not
1.00
06:52:51.140
like have let me ask you a question have you when we've reached out to you
1.00
06:52:55.300
and like maybe you asked like a girlfriend if she wanted to come on the show like have
06:52:58.660
girls been like hesitant to want to come on the show because it's like
1.00
06:53:02.660
controversial or maybe like have a bad reputation
06:53:09.060
bro we got a lot of haters in santa barbara like
06:53:12.420
look it's a controversial show it's uh you know not everybody's gonna want to have their views
06:53:18.580
challenged and you should relocate to san diego i was gonna say people yeah they definitely come on
1.00
06:53:23.780
they yeah i actually really like san diego like i thought about moving this to obviously somewhere
06:53:28.740
more populated because the prices are better too no and i like san diego san diego feels like a
06:53:33.940
bigger santa barbara like it's still kind of a beach vibe and i don't like la i fucking hate la
0.94
06:53:40.100
san diego could be cool but uh the driving is a lot easier and then you have um
06:53:45.140
um cusd cal state san marcos well you you csd too right yeah yeah and then um san diego state yeah
06:53:55.220
but um cal state san marcos has like a lot of like really friendly people that i'm sure would be
06:54:00.420
more than willing to actually oh maybe i don't know csusm i don't know
06:54:06.580
san barbara's kind of cucked not gonna lie it's beautiful i fucking love santa barbara but it's kind of
0.97
06:54:10.820
cocked good times any any final thoughts from anybody else 50 50 is a scam for a woman
1.00
06:54:25.700
give her her cat back give my cat back i will find you oh wait question do you guys think men only
06:54:30.500
want one thing no no okay good answer wait question
0.99
06:54:36.740
yeah i was gonna i don't want to get into any of the feminism shit i think that when men are young
1.00
06:54:43.380
and immature they do only want one thing because they're not ready and they also don't feel like
0.95
06:54:47.700
they they fulfilled their goals to reach being a man in order to want something more serious so i
06:54:54.660
feel like when i'm a boy is like immature and young yeah i would say he wants sexual encounters more
06:55:01.860
than he would want like a serious committed relationship but once a boy has really matured into a
06:55:05.940
man he's ready to take that on and he feels confident in himself in his journey to provide
06:55:12.180
for a relationship word word okay hold on let me read this last chat from jrod then we're going to
06:55:18.820
wrap up we lie 90 but 10 disparities important ask each woman the panel's content pays your bills
06:55:25.380
if they date your personality then ask your mom if your action is it gentlemanly
06:55:38.580
i'm a little confused is this for me jrod is this the panel's content pays your bills if they date
06:55:44.900
your personality wait like like like me or like would the girls they date ourselves other
06:55:54.260
they date like if we date our own personality yeah would you date your i think jrod i think that's the
06:55:59.780
question would you date your own personality if i was a man would i date myself this is kind of a vague
06:56:05.780
question yeah i would i would wait here let's just actually this came in earlier jrod i'm just gonna
06:56:14.500
have to co-opt your question here and would you guys date me or jaquan jake did i say your name jaquan
06:56:22.660
sorry sorry sorry sorry i scuffed it you got it i don't know you guys personally it's okay you can
0.91
06:56:29.540
you can say i'm a toxic piece of shit that's fine no no no no but yeah i will i will accept a date i
0.94
06:56:36.260
don't know as long as you pay for it you know exactly uh technically i got a man so no
1.00
06:56:44.020
i'd go on a date with you but not him what why he's so handsome not my type you don't like
06:56:54.980
don't go there it's the earrings actually it's the earrings yeah it kind of just reminds me of
06:57:01.460
gay guys i thought his earrings were cool they're cool and they're nice but like i just i have so many
06:57:07.540
gay friends she just called you gay dude no i didn't i just said i have so many gay friends
06:57:12.100
and they all have earrings so when i see a man with earrings i just instantly what do i assume he's
06:57:16.820
gay yeah i would date both of you guys i like that you guys were both very opinionated and
06:57:22.180
i respected your guys's opinion on every topic that we talked about and i like a guy that can like
06:57:27.780
voice his opinion so you both seem like you guys are good communicators so yes i would
06:57:31.700
say all right okay as someone who has high standards and is very careful about who i give
06:57:38.020
my energy to i don't have enough information to assess something like that and be able to answer
06:57:42.900
that so the question is i don't know okay all right that's that's a very politically correct
06:57:50.420
i was gonna say you should be a politician you should be a politician what about you um i sort of feel the
06:57:56.820
same way i don't really have enough information but however he i think you said earlier you are a
06:58:04.420
relationship coach so to me that stands out it in something that like you know a lot about emotional
06:58:15.140
intelligence and a relationship so like i you know why not word uh jordan um i'm intrigued i would say
06:58:33.060
all right there you have it folks okay guys we need to wrap up the show before we hit the seven
06:58:36.820
hour mark guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight
06:58:40.740
and you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to
06:58:43.940
everyone who super chats donate supports the show thank you to the wonderful panel we went long
06:58:48.180
so really appreciate it guys um if you're interested in sponsoring the podcast dm at whatever if you
06:58:54.740
were a girl and you want to be on the show dm out whatever um we'll be live again uh thursday we're
06:59:00.740
doing a debate at like 1 p.m uh tune in for that debate trent rose lila or excuse me trent horn lila
06:59:06.740
rose destiny jasmine jafar that's gonna be a good one approximately 1 p.m i think uh we're gonna go live
06:59:12.660
on thursday anyways guys that's it oh dating talk will be back sunday at 5 p.m we'll see you next time