HEATED Debate With Woke Feminist?! Boss Babe Picks Career Over PERFECT Man?! | Dating Talk #229
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we are joined by a very special guest, a 24 year old DJ from Los Angeles, CA named Brenda. We talk about how she got her start in the EDM scene, her experience with drugs and alcohol, and how she became a DJ in the scene.
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be stopped so then she started crying in my hallway and then um i what was she saying in the hallway
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damian do you remember she said she told me to s oh no she called me the n-word multiple times
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and then she told me to sd twice yeah yeah that was fun and then we have the shoegate situation so
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necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel and i do believe andrew will be joining us
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a little bit later on in the show with that said without further ado we're going to have the guests
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introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where you're from occupation and
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education go ahead my name is brenda i am 24 i am from los angeles and i am a digital artist in
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electronic music dancing and i create content all right any like school college anything like that
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associates degree yeah associates yeah okay what did you get uh bachelor's or bachelor's i'm sorry
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or like what was the major so i went in pre-med and then i changed to nutrition and then just general
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education got it okay and you said you do rave content yeah you're a raver i am a raver yeah we
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should have had you come in rave gear you should have told me i i would have i would have brought
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some i would have brought some stuff i would have yeah right over my head didn't even all right it's
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okay uh next time uh that's cool and how often do you go to raves and stuff um so i work in the scene
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so it's pretty often but uh recently i took a break and now i just go like once a month or whenever i have
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to work then i go for work got it okay cool what about you my name is patrice i just turned 26 years
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old i'm from new jersey for a while i was for the last year i was a stay-at-home fiance but
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currently i'm going back to my right after this trip i'm going back home to my job as a waitress
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bartender um i have a little bit of schooling i've changed my i've changed my life path so many times
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but i started as pre-law and political science that didn't work out so then i spent like a year
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and a half studying health and nutrition doing bodybuilding competitions i did some macro fitness
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work personal training as a side job for a while and currently my i have like a lot of things that
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i'm thinking of doing but i was thinking of going back to school to work in air traffic control especially
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with every all the planes crashing and everything happening it's a consideration so we need it we need
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those atc uh people and uh so you're from jersey you said yes okay and any education any school i
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don't have any official degree no i have some qualifications but did you go to college i did
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yes i did university i went to coastal carolina for a year and then i did community college for a year
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gotcha damien did we recently have someone on who also went to that i could have somebody went to that
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school recently who was it was it was it last show someone from who went yeah okay well cool welcome
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what about you hi i'm kelly like a california and i'm from south korea okay and i moved out here about
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this october gonna be seven years and i used to fashion stylist in korea for kpop idol and any
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other fashion brand after graduated um university school with the fashion major so working for five
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years then when i was 27 i just decided to move out here to explore and any entertainment thing music
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industry any other art industry for yes so right now this i just turned 33 you're 33 okay got it
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and i see you have some gems in your teeth uh what what do you call that what is that it's a tooth gem it's a tooth
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gems so since i think 2019 like was started at that moment and then i got this certificate about
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five years ago five years ago in l.a yeah so i'm a tooth gem technician nice technician yeah okay cool cool
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uh and uh you you offer this though as a service yes i do my location is downtown l.a and there's the plus
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add to the teeth whitening nails and pedicure and grills and grills yes grills okay and you're uh when did
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you move from south korea about seven did you say seven years ago 2018 oh okay got it okay and uh i looked
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at your instagram like you have uh a lot of posts on there like it's over a thousand oh yeah it is i went to
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the very bottom by the way yes thank you i don't know if that's uh if you're like kind of frightened
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by that like whoa he knows what that looks like like 10 years ago oh yeah honestly you've had more
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hair styles more hair colors i think in the history of ever um you've single-handedly propped up
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the hair dye industry so i want to congratulate you oh thank you so much i never tried to board
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hair but i want to try someday i don't know one day yeah um sorry guys i'm getting some bullshits going
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on um okay cool welcome what about uh what about you oh i'm bailey i'm 23 and i'm my bsba from philadelphia
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in marketing and international business all right welcome back what about you hi i'm steph i'm 24 i'm
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from houston and i'm currently going to uhd and i work at a makeup store and i'm a sub
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you're uh sorry i'm sorry age again 24 and you work in a makeup store and am a sub
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missive substitute teacher oh i thought i was too i was like period girl no i understand
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and uh all right any school or anything like that i go to uhd all right what are you studying i'm
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studying to be a teacher teacher okay all right what about you um my name's mary grace i'm from
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santa barbara i have a aaa in music and then a bachelor's in science and i work in medical supervision
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okay um what about you my name is alina i'm 20 years old i'm originally from russia i currently
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live in philadelphia and i'm a student studying business and information systems all right welcome
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everybody sorry mary your your age again 23 all right sorry audience for them having to repeat it we
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uh a little little bs going on um a lot of flakes today eight six six flakes people running late
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so i had to turn some people away um all right so we're gonna go around the table once more what
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what is everybody's current relationship status and then if you're single how long have you been single
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and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead i am single okay and i have been in
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a three-year relationship that was off and on and then a two-year relationship that was also off
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and on okay how long have you been single for um since like may so however long that is
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last year eight months seven months okay and the relationship that ended eight months ago was that
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the two-year the three-year one that was two-year the two-year and both of them were on again off again
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oh no i'm so sorry it was a year yeah it was a year ago no no like the relationship was a little
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bit over a year it wasn't even two years like a year the most recent one yes most recent one yeah
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okay so you had a one year and a three-year yes and a two-year or there was no no no i'm sorry it's
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just we spent so much time together it felt like a long time but both of them were on again off again
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you said towards the end yes towards the end how many times for the for the longest one the three-year
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one how many times was it off and on oh so many times i i can't over 10. probably 20. no i don't
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think that much 10 to 20. 15. i don't i don't know this is 10. this is okay yeah uh who would be
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ending it putting it in the off oh i was so bad i i i would uh end it and but deep down i wanted it
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so that's why i would always like end up going back and he obviously he's for it because he wanted
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me he's for it no he was for like he was for like he wanted he was he would apologize and then i would
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be like no like i don't want your apology and then wait so he would end things with you no no i would
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end things with him okay and then he would apologize and then i would like ghost and then i would come
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back okay yeah uh does that not make sense yeah no no i'm sorry i'm fucking um so uh and then what
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about the other one that was also on again off again yeah okay and uh that one was twice on again
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off who so for both these relationships i guess the final breakup who ended things in each of them
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was it you for both it was mutual mutual okay all right what about you
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so my longest relationship i ever had was four and a half years we had a great four years and a
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terrible half a year and i'm recently single for the last two weeks not from that relationship from
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another relationship i was engaged and we were together about a year and a half okay uh so you've
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been single sorry for how long like two weeks oh two weeks yeah i landed in california single so eight
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months is that your longest relationship my longest relationship was four and a half years no the
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fiance was not my longest relationship okay uh four and a half years who broke up with him the longest
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one oh so he broke up with me i've at the end so we were we were together consistently living together
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for almost four years and then the last six months it was we'd had one breakup at the two-year mark but
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it wasn't serious it was like three days i went and stayed at my mom's house and then we were back together
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lived i moved in after like date one night one and we spent four years four years were great and then
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we spent six months together where it was on again off again on again off again so i he i broke up with
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him he broke up with me i broke up with him he broke up with me he cheated on me okay that was kind of
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the final stroll the most is that the four and a half year one that's the four and a half year one yes okay
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and then this most recent one you were dating uh a red pill guy as you called it yes we were engaged
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okay um but you my understanding you don't want to share your name is that okay and uh so and you were
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where were you i guess when this all went down australia okay uh so you moved to australia i've moved
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so we spent a year pretty consistently traveling where we were in europe we were in the united states we
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were all around the united states back in europe australia europe so it ultimately ended in
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australia 12 hours after i got there yes after i was i mean this was the final push like i was gonna
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have to go back home and get my pets and move them over but besides that like i shipped we shipped stuff
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to australia uh yeah this was supposed to be like we were picking a place to rent while we built home
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and as soon like 12 hours after landing jet lagged tired yeah we ended up yeah he left i was i spent two
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weeks in australia alone uh what was there a reason given um i like i think there's always a
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straw that breaks the camel's back and the communication and the relationship really
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lacked and it was really bad uh and then i would do like this push-pull thing where i would just like
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beg for like the communication and any red pill guy is gonna find that annoying but if you lack the
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ability to communicate there's no relationship so i think you know there was just a straw that broke
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a camel's back there was an argument that escalated one day and that was just that was it like
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there was no communication so it was things piling on top of things on top of things on top of things
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and then one day it was just done okay wow good times good times yeah fun fun times fun times uh all
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right um what about you um so all right how long have you are you single yes singer how long have you been
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single uh about this year gonna be three years this year three years okay longest relationship um always
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the longest like one two years almost two years yeah two years how many two-year relationships have you
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been um like one to two let's say one to two yeah how many four times four times four times and of those
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four one to two year relationships who would break up with who uh usually i said broke let's break up i mean
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like you do the breakout yes okay all right what about you um i'm single i have been for a year and a
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half my longest relationship was a one year been single for a year and a half longest one year all
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right what about you i'm currently in a relationship and my longest one has been a year is that the current
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relationship no how long has your current relationship been uh i'd say about 10 months now
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10 months all right in your one year relationship who broke up with you i did okay your 10 month
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relationship how did you guys meet uh through church through church okay what denomination catholic catholic
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all right what about you i am in a relationship thanks to you that's right and my longest ever
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relationship is not the current relationship that i'm in what's that my longest relationship is not
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not the current one um but three years was the longest how long have you been dating this new guy
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i have been dating this new guy for two months two months best two months of my life i owe it all to you
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all right nice and um let's see here uh so he's a he watches the show he watches is he watching right
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now i think he is you know what how old is the guy 35 is he doing pretty well what's he do for work
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he he is a financial officer oh that's wait the chief chief financial a cfo correct oh uh well and
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he's watching right now he's like he knows you're coming on he knows i'm coming on and he wished me
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good luck and he said don't worry you're gonna do great so he saw your previous appearance
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slid into the dms and now you're dating one of my viewers yes you're invited to the wedding i'm
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wet i'm invited to the wedding i'm this is a matchmaking show it is all these girls come on
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i'm not actually exaggerating there's been probably we've had over something like 2 000 guests i think
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like a hundred of them have dm'd me and said hey i'm dating one of your viewers
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uh so that's pretty wild um a lot of people find love i mean we had our show on sunday
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uh the boyfriend and the girlfriend came on uh mason and alexa they actually they were both they were
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both guests on the show and they kind of met through that so it's the uh hold on let me play something
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here you're welcome you're welcome thank you you know what though because uh because of my assistance
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because i helped my my viewer find love i think a champagne pop is in order and you know what i
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think it should be the crystal pull up the crystal damien does he do does he do does he do crypto does
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he does he's a crypto guy look my ethereum wallet my ethereum wallet is in the description you have to
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send in a super chat too if you want to indicate that you're going to do the the crystal ethereum pop
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one ethereum it's it's low right now fucking crypto's in the trash who lost money on the trump
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fucking coin by the way uh that was rough um everything else the pepe fucked um but uh i think
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a little ethereum pop i mean you know what i mean you're making me sweat a little champagne pop so uh
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let's see here um that's cool though uh and what about you i'm in a relationship for four years
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it is my longest and only the longest and only sweet and um how often do you nag him
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never you never nag him have you ever slashed his tires no have you ever burned any of his clothes no
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have you ever beat him with a belt no have you ever why did you why did you have to pause to think
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about that it's been four years it's a long time so i had to think about it have you ever hit him
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with a frying pan no have you ever fucked up his dinner i've only made him the best dinners of his
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life you know you didn't fuck it up once you know i could never burnt the turkey or chicken or no
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have you ever yelled at him in russian no comment that's does he speak russian no white guy yes okay
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all right all right guys that's everybody's relationship status uh we have a chat coming
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through here in just a sec thank you guys sam thing for the tier one rebel thing for the prime
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appreciate it uh let's see here we have oh here we go okay here's an interesting one coming in
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peter griffin donated 200 chat would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female
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doctor serious surgery so basically would you rather get a massage or die ladies what decade was world
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war one it's 1914 to 1918 yeah period yeah we did this on sunday oh
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i don't know oh oh a little bit all right i'll take a sip on that you're putting on a different
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did you guys answer the question no yeah what was the question as for the first question i think i'd
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rather get a massage instead of dying yeah right why the question is would you rather get a massage
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from a gay man or serious surgery from a female doctor also what decade was world war one well that
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that one's not to you guys it's to the chat right that's what um what decade was world war one it was
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1914 yeah she said it oh who said it wow totally ruined it yeah good job marries failed all right uh
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let's see how about you know what uh what what what was the primary decade of world war ii i wouldn't be
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able to answer that guess guess 50s 50s okay 1940s okay
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oh my god just guess just guess um nine um 1990 1990 okay all right
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um 40s 50s it was 39 to 45 so primarily 40s yes 1935 to 1945 there you go when was the korean war
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i'm sorry 1945 sorry i didn't get the word that you know the word i'm still learning english guys
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sorry about that so yeah 1945 yeah 1950 oh me so horny me love you long time what the
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why was that played that's crazy um when was the korean war 1940 1945 oh five don't don't touch the
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go ahead no when was it 6 25 june 25th wait what i actually don't even know
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it was like the 50s it was like the 50s it was the 50s right wait so korean war yeah it's a year
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it's the 1945 it was 19 it was i didn't know the exact years but i know it was the 50s yeah 19 i 1950
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1953 that's cool that's cool uh uh that's everybody's relationship status so that's awesome we're gonna get
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into some of the pre-show notes here so why don't we do this uh callie uh you said uh wait hold on uh
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in most of your time when you've dated someone for the first time they're taking you to dinner then
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trying to i'm going to just read it verbatim taking you to dinner then trying to straight to
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fuck you after dinner uh so i should have surprised that who ain't touch me for first time date in la
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oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah because you know like usually also la culture is different yes so i
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learned the situation she worked when i'm out here and in korea i i had a good relationship with like
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101 i prefer 101 i got asian korean culture so i always like be ready to be monogamy you know so um
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when i was young still like making good career and still dating with god but at the same time it's
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hard to make it but um so but i made this some long-term relationship though but when i move out here
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it was a long-term relationship it's just two weeks one month or sometimes on and off for
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two years three years something like this so um i'm 33 i just turned 33 i'm ready to make my own
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family but i'm struggling yes you're struggling with the dating scene yes would you um what was it
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you know dating in south korea versus dating in the united states different and do you prefer american
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men versus south korean men um just i have a type sexy tall well you have a type yes okay you're
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describing okay tall tall sexy sexy athletic do they have to have a grill oh do they have to have a
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grill no hair no no tattoo please no tattoo yeah no grill no grill wait so tall sexy have to have what
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like something athletic something strong yeah something strong strong because do you work out
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yes okay you want a guy who works out uh do you erase do you prefer white black uh
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uh native american uh i think i mostly prefer like i mean been dating with african america
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but also mixed with white oh you want uh half mixed half black half white yeah i think i have a date to
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the way i've been you know kind of situation she with black guy yes but uh mixed with white when you
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say mixed though do you mean um the man is half or like some black guys and you did some white guys
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first one first one you like half yeah half black half white half white what about blasian
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oh half black half asian well i never you know dated with blasian but
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i don't know happens it happens yeah exactly okay can i ask you said no tattoos but you have tattoos why
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why is that right uh yeah i know right kind of opposite the type is a you know kind of like i'm very
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look wild but this is kind of just for you know style fun i try to like so i don't mind who got the
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tattoo but i prefer like who got no tattoo or that's more like you know i don't know just the
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i don't care for the tattoo it's just i'm saying you don't like it too much how tall does that you said
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tall right tall how tall six to six six to six two six foot to six foot two yes please yes please
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okay you're so specific wait i have a question too yeah go ahead so if you want a guy that doesn't have
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a girl but you have gems and he doesn't want a girl that doesn't have gems would you take them off for
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him of course no problem but he he will be understand why why i have actually like some
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guys doesn't like me have this tooth jam so i tried the remover but they also respect my you know style
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for business making so to be honest they understand so i don't have to do but when they mention i can
00:29:17.920
consider to remove it it's easy to go so okay that is uh cool so okay black six foot to six foot two
00:29:28.000
uh well yeah tall sexy uh strong strong do you care about money or not really money we can grind
00:29:36.400
together good money yeah we can grind together so right wait so you moved how old were you when you
00:29:41.920
moved here so that you would have been 26 27 27 yeah and so uh but you were and you had pretty much
00:29:49.280
lived in south korea your whole life up until that point right yeah were you uh did you date uh south
00:29:56.320
korean men when you were in south korea or were you dating foreigners oh yeah of course i dated with
00:30:01.040
us korean men and also i'm korean american yes okay what city were uh were you in seoul oh seoul okay and uh
00:30:12.800
okay uh that's some interesting stuff there i do uh before i i want to wait for well uh i guess going
00:30:21.120
around the table what is everybody else's type why don't we start there starting with uh brinda so i'm
00:30:25.840
always going to be the first one yeah okay yeah my type a lot of pressure yeah right um you need it
00:30:32.720
to be like goal orientated you have to have a path in mind you don't have to be there but you have to be
00:30:40.720
just like passionate for yourself and um having a routine of like health is obviously really attractive
00:30:48.640
like if you work out but you don't have to be like fit and muscular as long as like you're consistent
00:30:53.120
um and you're disciplined and i think it's really hot when like uh people are
00:31:01.120
like they they study and like they learn and they're open to like new ideas even if it's like
00:31:05.680
different from their own perspectives and then like in terms of uh any like physical traits is there
00:31:11.520
anything there that you're looking for so i don't think so but all my friends tell me i always go for
00:31:16.080
the same type of guy where it's like yeah what's that what would your friends what would they say they
00:31:22.240
say the awkward awkward either white man uh that's like also hispanic and mixed um but tall but not
00:31:30.400
too tall yeah i don't know but when you say tall what are we talking about here um well not not too tall
00:31:39.120
like five nine five yeah so half white half do you prefer do you have a preference on like are they
00:31:48.240
mexican or puerto rican dominican no so it's dominican like that's latino right uh is dominican
00:31:56.080
thank you thank you yes i don't know if i'm just talking to someone and we click or if i know you
00:31:59.920
for a while and then there's just like some type of energetic connection i'm into it sure so yeah okay
00:32:06.160
and you do um a big thing that you do is a raving i almost want to let's just pull up your instagram
00:32:10.720
pull up your instagram i just went to a rave this weekend i just went to a rave so there are some
00:32:16.400
recent rave i'm gonna send it to damien okay in the private chat but i am more tamed that the
00:32:21.920
outfits that i used to wear were much worse so i have a question for you on this and this has come
00:32:26.960
up on the show before okay uh do you do you consider yourself more like traditional um yes and no i'm
00:32:34.320
i'm open to all ideas and perspectives what about like when it comes to relationship relationship dynamics do you
00:32:40.080
prefer more 50 50 do you prefer prefer the guy leads do you prefer uh maybe are you more dominant
00:32:46.320
are you more masculine what what's your preference there um so in the past i actually sought out
00:32:51.520
relationships where i wanted the man to be more dominant and i was willing to be more submissive
00:32:56.400
but then um kind of like after like my last breakup because it was so messy and i was like all right
00:33:01.520
we need to pause and we need to like just really figure out our values here and i'm i just came to now
00:33:06.880
this new kind of like way of thinking of doesn't really matter who's um taking care of who as long
00:33:13.840
as like there's value on both ends and it could be 50 50 it could be if he needs help i'll help him out
00:33:19.360
i recently paid for a man's dinner and i had no issue with it you know and um but in the past i would
00:33:26.160
have never thought about that i would have never wanted to do that so it just depends i guess on um
00:33:33.040
where i'm at and right now it's yeah whatever okay and uh so um how about though like think think to
00:33:44.160
your future husband do you want to get married yeah eventually you want to have kids yeah okay
00:33:48.800
so you're married you have a husband uh are you gonna any so we're gonna have our own empires
00:33:56.880
and own separate empire we're gonna have our own separate empires and we're gonna um help each other
00:34:01.840
and encourage each other by supporting each other and giving each other ideas and if i were to have
00:34:06.400
a kid um with with having empire i would not mind putting a pause on it because i feel like if i'm
00:34:12.960
making the decision to have a kid then um i will then prioritize that okay uh damian pull up the
00:34:20.000
instagram all right so she's a waver uh scroll down scroll down keep that's my brand right there
00:34:28.080
cyber waiver scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down have a clothing brown wow scroll down
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i'm trying to find like a rave photo they're all right oh how about the one where i'm wearing the
00:34:36.080
cross no no i'm at a rave and i have a cross on in a rosary i might uh i have pasties on i think that
00:34:41.840
that one's epic these are so down now at this point just keep going just go to the very bottom
00:34:48.480
okay they're getting worse they get worse they get worse oh no you still got this okay
00:34:55.440
were you squatting in a rave outfit i was squatting in a rave outfit
00:34:59.840
okay so how many how many raves have you been to i can't tell you but i won i went through an era where
00:35:08.640
i was going to a rave every weekend and traveling just to go to the raves i was getting paid for it
00:35:12.400
of course but like still like it it was uh yeah wait wait wait scroll back up oh there you go
00:35:18.320
there you go wait no go down go down go down down down down keep going down down down down keep going
00:35:25.120
oh god uh it just never stops it's not okay yeah this keeps going well i've been doing this for about
00:35:32.400
three years now this is my job i made it my job up up up no down down down just go down i remember
00:35:37.840
seeing one keep going keep going down down down down there's one video in particular where i was
00:35:42.880
like what is it like describe it i didn't i probably know what it is i don't recall to be honest uh if i
00:35:49.120
see it i'll know it i'll know it when i see it but at this point that's okay some raves all right cool
00:35:57.760
this is when i first got into it so now at this point now i'm just an attendee i'm not working here
00:36:01.840
now okay now we're going i'm gonna attend i'm in college college era working college era so question
00:36:07.680
for you point blank yes you're dating a guy you love him this could be the one you've only been
00:36:13.840
dating for three months though but you're like this is the guy and he's like now that you guys are
00:36:19.680
serious now you're in a relationship he's like yo i don't want you going to raves anymore it's over
00:36:25.920
do you say yes or is it the end of the relationship well that that would never happen we would have never
00:36:30.560
met what do you mean he could have you could have met in the library what are you talking about
00:36:34.800
we wouldn't have a line we wouldn't have connected what do you mean did you go shopping at trader
00:36:39.200
joe's he could have hit you up at trader joe's no i do uh instacart uber eats i only go he's the
00:36:44.080
instacart guy i only go he's the fucking instacart guy i i don't know him so i would never connect with
00:36:48.320
him i would never connect with anyone he's so hot he's dropping off your i don't care chia seeds from
00:36:53.360
costco he's dropping off some fucking chia seeds a flirt yeah he's the one he's the one he's doing
00:36:58.480
instacart he's grinding and then he hit he hits a pump on some crypto and now he's rich and he's
00:37:05.200
like i'm taking care of you fuck this rave shit fuck this work shit i got you i i'm holding it
00:37:11.200
down no but you you can't be doing this rave shit this is my empire that i'm building you're going
00:37:15.760
to be wearing i have two companies because of it so i would never no he's in the billions
00:37:20.320
fuck that shit you don't gotta work another day in your life i i want to work no no he wants
00:37:25.360
he wants to pump out seven kids with you oh i'm good i'm good you're good i'm good on that that's
00:37:31.280
a real dynasty is seven kids not i have two businesses no that's the dynasty for me my
00:37:37.520
my dynasty or just i care about my goals and that's where i'm at right now so you could have
00:37:43.520
whatever the fuck you have and i will support you good for you you know but it's like um i i don't chase
00:37:49.600
that i used to i i would i would have said yes fuck it i don't want to work a day in my life
00:37:55.120
let's do it okay but um i just and so your business is it's like relate rave related it's
00:38:01.520
well it's for the edm community so it's like yeah like rave related but so you're this is the love of
00:38:06.240
your life love of your life we would have never met you could you could meet him some other way i
00:38:12.320
don't think so you could meet him some other way on my mind can i ask a question yeah go ahead
00:38:15.840
so you said that you wouldn't stop going to raves for him but what if the same scenario like he's
00:38:21.600
he's fine i never said that i said we would have never met okay yeah so you meet this guy and he's
00:38:28.160
great you meet him at a rave and he's wonderful fantastic you guys really hit it off and he says
00:38:33.520
babe i want this instagram down like i want these posts down then like we can still go to raves together
00:38:39.200
you just can't post photos like this i want them deleted if we're gonna have a kid together in the
00:38:43.120
future if we're gonna have a future and you want me to take you seriously you have to delete these
00:38:46.000
photos would you take them off of instagram so that's an interesting question and i see where
00:38:52.400
your head is at with that question but because this is my job um i don't just go to raves just to rave
00:38:57.680
i go to raves because this is how i'm going to make my living and if i meet someone at the rave and
00:39:03.600
they decide okay i don't like your instagram i don't like the way that you're posting
00:39:07.200
um and we are um at like a at a point of our relationship where i do like them and i do see
00:39:14.400
a future i do see like value on both ends then i will consider changing what i wear i will consider
00:39:21.440
changing what i post but ultimately like if it doesn't impact like the growth of my business then
00:39:28.160
um yeah i'll consider but again um it's not about the raving it's about i enjoy the music i love the
00:39:34.720
culture and i'm grateful for it so you can still go and you can post like stories with the rave in
00:39:39.920
the story and you can post photos from like waist up but he says i want the photos of your ass off
00:39:44.960
of instagram cool would you take them down yeah of course yeah that was a question yeah yeah yeah
00:39:50.640
would you stop raving well no well no because so she had asked if we had met at a rave and then he
00:39:58.640
was like i we could still go to raves together but you have to take your photos down but if if if
00:40:04.640
in that hypothetical if we met at a rave why why why would he want to stop raving let's say he this is
00:40:12.560
the first time he's ever been to a rave and he's there in an employment context because you're really
00:40:18.000
stuck on i would have never so you you're saying absent you going to raves you never meet men
00:40:24.720
well so when i am at a festival i am in a mode where um i am talking and i am connecting with
00:40:36.480
people and i honestly just spend a lot of time alone or with my friends that i already have
00:40:41.760
connections with so i i don't really connect with anyone other than when i'm working at these like
00:40:47.280
public events okay um and uh so i'm gonna go ahead and chime in so on your instagram you have gym post
00:41:00.720
you're saying that you don't really go out besides raving but you have gym posts let's say a guy comes
00:41:04.640
up to you at the gym hits on you and y'all hit it off would you like still keep going to the gym i mean
00:41:10.880
sorry keep going graving um i mean maybe i'll just keep it like of us working out at the gym
00:41:17.360
if he doesn't like raving and i would i wouldn't further like the relationship with him so i'm not
00:41:23.520
familiar with with raves i've never been to one i just know people like i know people who have been
00:41:27.040
to raves yeah they're notorious for being very druggie alcohol-y kind of events so
00:41:34.240
when a child you meet a guy he's great and you guys hit it off and he wants to have a baby with
00:41:41.920
you are you like leaving the baby at home with a babysitter to go to a rave and get messed up on
00:41:47.680
like i'm not saying that you do ecstasy i'm just saying it comes with the territory or any kind of
00:41:51.520
drug are you leaving this baby home with a babysitter to like go raving when you're 30 35 so i'm currently
00:41:59.840
24 and i do not plan to um i mean if it happens it happens but i i'm setting it for what i'm like
00:42:07.360
in 10 years from now and at that time i have a kid there is one thing to say actually that not all
00:42:16.080
ravers take substances um oh wait you have a kid no no no she gave me a hypothetical that i have a kid
00:42:20.960
oh okay yeah yeah um that and i was just giving some context so not all ravers take substances um
00:42:27.280
a lot of people are there for the music but the culture is big and it does exist and um when you
00:42:32.480
do get into raving that is the first thing that you hit because that's just like what raving is known
00:42:38.320
for and i feel like you a lot of people do fall into a cycle and a lot of people do end up coming out of
00:42:43.760
it because they generally love the music that being said i am in that phase where i generally just love
00:42:49.760
the music and i don't take anything anymore so if i have a kid and my kid is already at an age where
00:42:56.880
they don't need me to be there and me and my significant other want to go to a show because
00:43:04.480
whatever we're gonna go maybe but um it's not to get fucked up or it's not to just like
00:43:12.240
you know it's just to spend time with each other and maybe we haven't gone out for about a year we
00:43:16.720
want to go to do you think you'll still enjoy raving when you're 40 and you're married with children or
00:43:20.960
do you think that because you're you're kind of like i don't know you so i'm not saying it's your
00:43:24.480
entire personality but you're saying it's your job and that's what you're trying to do with your
00:43:27.200
life is make a career out of raving but do you see yourself at 40 or 50 years old still like doing
00:43:32.880
this no i i no no i don't see myself like um like hardcore raver uh like so then it's not a career
00:43:41.760
well i have an entertainment company where we have a podcast in the scene and we have artists that come
00:43:46.480
on to our podcast so no matter what uh we're going to be passing down the reins and so the career has
00:43:52.960
nothing to do with actually going to raves like you said earlier that's just the market the market
00:43:57.520
that uh that we're in is the edm dance scene so they're ravers and i'm a rave i was a hardcore
00:44:04.800
raver here look i'll just ask the question again so it's okay i think we're kind of avoiding the
00:44:10.880
question by saying well in this hypothetical scenario i would just never meet this guy in this
00:44:16.000
hypothetical scenario we're going to go ahead and grant that you did meet this guy he's not in the rave
00:44:21.760
scene whatever he's the love of your life we have to grant it he says i want you to stop raving
00:44:28.400
do you stop raving well then you would have to define what you oh what i mean by stop no what
00:44:35.840
do you mean by raving what is your perspective on raving like what what is it that if i were to go to
00:44:40.640
a rave what am i doing that you want me to know music festivals no raves buying a ticket and entering
00:44:46.000
it doesn't matter what your purpose is there can't go to them that's that's what he wants do you do
00:44:51.680
it um if if me if in that moment me going to a rave has nothing to do with what i'm currently doing
00:45:02.160
for work then i'll consider but if it's going to impact my bank account then i will not consider
00:45:10.160
he makes a million dollars a year i don't care i want my own money what do you mean your own money
00:45:14.320
i don't understand like i want my own money sure sure let me um i have a question on this so um
00:45:20.400
do you mind me asking like how much money you make right now
00:45:25.120
yeah i don't want to put that six figures you want to do a range i don't want to put that on the
00:45:28.560
internet okay yeah let's say your husband makes double what you make and he'll whatever point in
00:45:35.120
life however much money you would make in that point in life he'll be earning double it at at
00:45:40.640
any given point so he makes what you make and then he basically makes what you're making anyways
00:45:48.480
he says i want you to stop working you guys are married
00:45:53.840
you're still generating the exact same amount of money that you would generate do you stop working
00:45:59.600
well legally i can't do that because one company that i have i have it with three other i have i
00:46:05.040
have i have legally because i have a company with three other people so if i just stop then it would
00:46:10.240
be a whole show so i can't just completely stop what do you mean what are you talking about so i
00:46:16.800
me and three i want buy out my shares problem solved well then then that's just me probably not
00:46:22.480
wanting to do that i i what do you mean like i just i wouldn't want to i wouldn't do that
00:46:27.120
like that's my baby and i what's your baby what is it what's the business an entertainment company
00:46:31.840
entertainment yeah what is it what do you guys do it's a podcast eating a podcast and it's okay yeah
00:46:38.080
and this moment i love it and it's it's my baby so it's hard for me to like think about letting it go
00:46:44.960
okay it might change it might it might change so just to be clear like um let me ask you this
00:46:50.240
between having your podcast and your business and making your own money if like here's the two trade-offs
00:46:56.320
husband children or rave podcast and your business and being a boss babe and making your own money
00:47:07.680
if you have to pick one in in this moment you have to pick in this moment if it was today and
00:47:11.600
i had to pick one but for life for life it's all situational i feel like that's the i just explained
00:47:20.000
the situation no like my mindset will change i can't put i i i this is what i can't do
00:47:26.160
the situation is right now right oh yeah right now i would keep what i'm doing i wouldn't have
00:47:29.920
a kid right now no but so the entailment is if you pick right now you're here your podcast is going
00:47:36.480
to be insanely successful you're going to have the most popular raving podcast ever you're going to be
00:47:41.920
making a million dollars a year doing it but that's it that's your business for life and you're going to
00:47:48.160
be uh single for the rest of it or and and i have a clothing brand too okay your clothing brand is
00:47:54.160
does good too or or and you have to select you have a crossroads and you can't there's no going back
00:48:01.840
or husband children which do you pick in this moment i am picking what i'm currently doing okay so
00:48:08.800
but the entailment of that is that you die single and oh okay i see what you mean die single
00:48:14.080
and alone well i love myself so that i will be okay with that you'd be okay dying single and
00:48:20.160
alone but i will have friends yeah i still have friends right sure you can okay then that's all
00:48:25.920
i need yes you can have relationships you can have friends that's all i need but they're going to get
00:48:29.440
married and have kids and they're probably by the time they're in their mid-30s they're probably not
00:48:33.680
your well i mean can i still like flirt with people and like yeah you can fuck oh you can
00:48:40.000
then like you know what i'm gonna limit you i'm limiting you to one person three months
00:48:45.280
situationship that's it i'm cool you get three months situationship and then let's do it they're
00:48:50.400
and then they're gone cool okay new experiences okay so all right i come from a place of attachment
00:48:55.920
with love um so i feel like with that in mind i i'll be okay with that okay yeah huh and so i guess
00:49:04.000
my question is though uh hmm do you like working like do you enjoy it now i do if if you weren't
00:49:14.080
making any money though would you would you do it yeah i don't you would still do it okay i was
00:49:18.480
fucking eating because i was thinking about this the other day i was thinking about this the other day
00:49:22.560
it's like women when it comes to like if you meet a guy who's capable of saying hey i want you to
00:49:27.760
stay at home he's a high earner and he's like just stay at home you don't have to work take care of
00:49:32.320
the kids take care of me take care of the family and i was thinking like a lot of women would say no
00:49:38.240
to that but then i was thinking what if an employer came and said i'm gonna pay you a hundred thousand
00:49:45.600
dollars to do exactly what your husband wants you to do in the home my obviously mine like not sex
00:49:53.520
or anything but like an employer comes and says okay we want you to take care of this household
00:49:58.240
and you're gonna be a nanny and you're gonna raise these kids and we're gonna pay you a hundred
00:50:02.000
thousand dollars a year and i was thinking like it's interesting to me that women would take the
00:50:08.000
hundred thousand dollar a year job i wouldn't well because that's not that's not what i want to do
00:50:12.560
that's not what fulfills me so i'm not gonna go do that i'm not gonna go clean a house if someone
00:50:18.160
that fulfills you then hell yeah go off go off but like that's that's not me um so i wouldn't i would
00:50:24.560
want to make the money in in the field that makes me happy or let me ask you this then let's say you
00:50:31.360
already have kids and then there's some circumstance where you need to stop working
00:50:39.440
it's either your kids or your job kids if i made the decisions all right that's right
00:50:45.520
um we have a new guest who just joined us welcome welcome uh here's what i'm gonna have you do i'm
00:50:50.240
gonna have you scoot into the table and if you can scoot your microphone that way okay this one scoot
00:50:55.440
it uh scoot it push it nope uh that way which one forward can somebody help her please forward yeah
00:51:03.040
uh yeah uh so tell us your name age occupation location hi my name is ivy i'm 24 sorry i'm 24 and
00:51:14.800
i used to be a public school teacher in oakland and now i'm currently transitioning to marketing and
00:51:20.560
social media um so yeah that's my name age occupation all right and uh where are you from i'm from the
00:51:28.320
626 or like san gabor valley yeah sgv yeah sgv okay and uh any education college university oh yeah
00:51:37.040
i graduated from ucsd oh it's san diego okay nice and what was your major i majored in literature and
00:51:44.160
political science double major oh sorry uh literature international literature and then minor in minor
00:51:51.840
science yeah political science okay and let's see uc san diego were you in a sorority uh no i had no
00:51:58.880
social life no social life you think ucsd is pretty good party school i've never been to any parties at
00:52:05.520
ucsd you never went to any what's that not really oh yeah it's like called uc socially dead or is it san
00:52:12.400
diego state i think it's san diego state i mean but they're yeah well whatever um okay cool and uh
00:52:18.400
what's your relationship status uh right now i'm single okay single how long have you been single
00:52:24.480
for right now it feels like it's a long time but i think it's just been 2023 so two years yeah two
00:52:33.200
years all right so it is a long time and then what's the longest relationship that you've been in two
00:52:38.000
years two years and is that the one that ended two years ago no that was it yeah okay uh when was the
00:52:45.120
two year relationship uh i've been in like i think like three no two two-year relationships okay
00:52:51.520
and so that that was a long time ago like right before covid so like high school i know uh high
00:52:58.080
school one and then college when i was at ucsd one uh so those were both two years and then the other
00:53:04.240
ones after that were just one year okay the the one that ended two years ago how long was that one
00:53:10.160
um the one that ended a little bit less we knew each other for exactly one year but maybe we were
00:53:15.680
dating for like six months six months okay and uh of the two two-year relationships who broke up with
00:53:23.040
who i think uh it was like the first one was me i broke up with the first one to date the second one
00:53:31.120
and so the second one broke up with me to go to the military yeah because he was korean so he had to go to
00:53:38.160
the military service got it okay uh and let's see and the most recent relationship that ended two
00:53:46.000
years ago who broke up with who um he broke it with me okay why uh it was a tough decision but maybe
00:53:54.320
it was about i think i'm like a little bit high maintenance when it comes to relationships and at
00:54:00.400
first he was like really gung-ho about it but over time i think i probably exhausted him yeah okay all
00:54:08.000
right rock and roll and uh so everybody here is single except for alina and mary and steph yeah oh
00:54:17.200
and steph sorry wait oh that's right my r looks like an s somehow not sure uh okay so single single
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single single single um what does that actually mean though to be single so eight months two weeks
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three three what was it three years you've been single three months i don't know three years three
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years you've been uh single for two years one and a half is there currently a guy in the picture
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um as of recently yeah yeah but like there he's not like a guy in the picture he's just someone who i
00:54:53.440
had uh the first interest in in a long time and i was like okay so i asked him out okay one before i have
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you answer i'm gonna let the chat come through old man marine donated two hundred dollars thank you
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brian for helping me get my balls back after a horrible marriage i have a new girlfriend now and
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she's expecting congrats young man daddy soon oh great show keep fighting against feminism oh thank you
00:55:20.400
marine appreciate it uh congratulations on the uh the kid man that's uh that's awesome
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that's awesome man congrats al 777 donated 199 dollars this chick is a gingerly and the most
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delusional i have ever seen on your show also that asian chick from sunday about the serbian guy was
00:55:45.760
totally lying and crying fake tears these chicks crazy any responses from any of the panelists on this
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one ginger hair i don't do she has reddish hair i don't know who does that make sense i'm so very
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confused i think you need to donate again and specify yeah huh okay well uh 777 i do appreciate it man
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and then we have here why not uh meet the kaiser thank you man brian how are you man very happy to hear
00:56:20.640
see six chair six found love here as much fun as it is to watch andrew square up with feminists people
00:56:25.840
sometimes forget this is first and foremost a dating podcast congratulations to uh you you want
00:56:32.560
to say anything where's the champagne pop i'm so happy you're a boyfriend you know i don't know if
00:56:36.400
he might call him right now give me my phone i will yeah okay uh well we can't have it we can't have it on
00:56:41.760
you got to call him behind the scenes okay it's technically a felony to record somebody's uh
00:56:49.120
conversation but oh text them for you text them yo give her get her phone do you have her phone
00:56:53.840
what's your phone look like it's it's pink all right yeah no the other that one all right here just
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pass it to me over here all right we're gonna we're gonna peer pressure him we're gonna
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bully so what are we what should i text him yeah text him be like brian is demanding okay brian is
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demanding a champagne oh no i don't i don't like him spending money on me to be quite honest
00:57:16.480
he's not spending money on you on brian on a cause okay yeah he owes me he owes me a favor you know he
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owes me oh my gosh i got you guys linked up i'm a matchmaker over here that's actually my fee i
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forgot to tell him my fee uh it's one one ethereum here's the story though any men watching who want
00:57:34.560
to date any of these women it's a one ethereum we have rather have flowers technically but what
00:57:39.760
wouldn't you rather have flowers huh flowers not roses that are orange what's his favorite flower
00:57:46.240
dandelions yeah good times good times she brought me flowers as a gift i was watching
00:57:52.880
the podcast a couple weeks ago and he he seemed so upset that nobody ever brought him flowers i was
00:57:56.880
very upset yeah so as a thank you for having me on the show i brought up ryan flowers she look at
00:58:02.400
that she actually brought me but you are you gonna give are you gonna take are you gonna give them to
00:58:08.240
another girl tomorrow you said that on the podcast a couple weeks ago i'm giving them to to damien my
00:58:13.360
producer that's so sweet and then he's gonna give them to hit to whatever his girlfriend okay cool yeah
00:58:19.920
oh uh just put it back there thank you though appreciate it that's very nice very nice uh thank
00:58:27.520
you thank you very much okay uh where were we uh we're talking about stuff relationships dating
00:58:34.880
podcast something you're asking what yes we started going around like with our types and we also started
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going around with what a single mean oh yes are you actually thank you thank you uh so you're currently
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involved how long have you been seeing this guy i've known him for about a year but um just been
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on two dates three dates three dates do you have a roster so my version of a roster is i don't sleep
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with all of them but there are oh i only i only ever sleep with one person at the same time i would
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never do more than that but it doesn't mean that i'm not open to talking to new people so my roster
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has maybe like four guys that i could just say hi to like text hey you want to go work out
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um yeah and you've dated you're dating them all though well i wouldn't say a workout's a date uh
00:59:25.200
well hi i mean hanging out but the potential they're so that's the thing they're they're potential
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lovers potential lovers potential lovers yeah huh okay and uh so you have a roster four and then one
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and then there's like the main hoe you have a main hoe i don't have it it's not a main hoe it's
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it's a main piece this sounds so bad it's just just the one person that i'm that i'm actually
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investing more time um and opening myself up more to be more vulnerable with got it and have you guys
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i asked him out and i yeah you asked him out yeah wait what do you mean you asked him like you
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like like like yes i don't know what that question is sorry that question is too much on the internet
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wait when you say like you guys are exclusive no no no no sorry that was just my brain whenever
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sorry that's okay wait so you you asked him like you want are you boyfriend girlfriend no no no no
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like i asked him on a date oh when i'm talking carnal knowledge no i know what you mean and
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again that was just my brain i don't want to put that on i don't know it's just weird to say i'm sorry
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okay that's fine um do the other three or four guys that you're seeing know that
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that you're fucking another dude i don't know how else to say it yeah well like um
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it's it's it's not really like their place to to judge like we're not is but do they know
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regardless of judgment do they know this is not their need to know so it's not their place to know
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another place to know i would want to know but if i'm not fucking you then why why do you care
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well i don't i don't date women who are fucking other men what then well then there you go yeah
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but that's why i want to know so i don't take a girl out on a date who fucked a guy the night before
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well okay but i would i would never let a guy take me out so these guys you said you'd go on gym dates
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or whatever yeah because i just text me i want to go work out or they text hey you want to go work
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out and it's just hanging out with a guy who um that could be a potential lover like potential
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lover so but then in addition to the guys who you're going on these like dates with but you're
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not hooking up with them what about the guy who you are hooking up with and he's like oh what the
01:01:54.160
fuck she's going on dates with other dudes but i'm not fucking them no you said you were
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fucking no i'm not fucking them i'm not no you're fucking a singular man yeah one guy yeah sure but he
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might feel a type of way like oh she's dating other dudes and i was inside of her yesterday
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i don't know how i feel about this then bye really damn cool heartless well yeah like we're not
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exclusive because once i'm exclusive like we're exclusive so if we're not then it's like
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do you think most guys would not care about that i don't know if you were sleeping with somebody
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else and also going out with them do you think most of them would not care or most of them would
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care i'm not sure keep it yeah i've honestly haven't really um like i guess quote unquote
01:02:41.440
dated to like really know that i've always just been in relationships so this is like my first time
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ever single and on my own do you think that a guy would want to take you seriously if you're not
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taking him seriously because if you're not like even if you guys aren't exclusive if you're dating
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other guys like how serious could you be about him well yeah so like the energy that i put out is
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the energy that i receive so if i'm putting out the energy and intention that i don't want anything
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serious then i of course expect the same energy back i'm not looking for a boyfriend so you're just
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having fun you're just i'm just enjoying life like i yeah okay so this energy that you give out don't
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you think it should be like vice versa yeah so i'm not saying it's wrong what you're doing but don't
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you think don't you think it's like i know it's not their need to know but let's say one of those four
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guys wants to take you serious i know you don't want anything with them but don't you think they
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should know as a form of like respect as just a person because if i was in your situation and i
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was a girl and a guy that i was fucking but i wanted to be serious with i found out that he's talking to
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four of the girls i would be hurt and i would want to know because i wouldn't want to waste my time
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um especially if it's just like even if it's just going to the gym i wouldn't want to waste my time
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when i could be getting to know someone that i could actually have a future with yeah 100 that's
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that's a beautiful question because um i i totally hear that and that's that's the beauty of communication
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you know like when someone actually communicates that okay we're starting to like see each other
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more and i'm having a more a bigger interest in you or whatever um and then we would talk and we
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would communicate and that's between us and then yeah but of course i would never lie if someone like
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i'm open book do you want to ask me a question ask me a question i'll answer and then yeah oh so
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they don't know until they ask you yeah and that's like vice versa like i'm not gonna if i don't want
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to know something or i don't feel the need to know i'm not going to ask and if i want to know that i'm
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going to ask and that's the beauty of communication what is the threshold where you view a situation
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reaching something serious where you do need to have that discussion of what's the expectation
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between your dynamic i honestly don't know because i've um this is again like dating is
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like new for me or like this the way that i'm dating is like is the way that dating was able to
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like make sense with my lifestyle and it's new for me so i don't know okay i guess moving on uh you've
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been single for two weeks do you have have yet a rebound yet no i i'm a serial like long-term relationship
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type person i have options but i'm not i think i always believe in taking time to heal yourself and
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figure your i don't i don't think that it's i don't think it ever turns out well when you immediately
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jump into another relationship without working on yourself and healing yourself first i think that you
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just take listen am like am i sad on some level of course i am am i on some level also relieved yes i
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am but that being said i don't anybody that gets into a relationship right after they've left somebody
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else i don't care what they say they're still like a week after that person you're still thinking about
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that person two weeks after that person you're still thinking about that person and a month after
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that person you're still thinking about that person so i don't think it's right to enter into another
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relationship and start trying to learn somebody else when you're still thinking about
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I usually try to give it, like, at least three to six months.
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And I don't enter a sexual relationship until, like, it's exclusive.
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Like, what if the guy's like, I'm not dating anybody else.
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I mean, I was with my, I was with the ex-fiance on the first, like, night one.
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So, I had seen his content and he was basically, like, if you want a girl to take you seriously,
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like, she has to be just, my, after the first date, my Instagram was down.
01:06:51.800
And he, this was just, like, fun and giggles to him.
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Like, I was borderline getting ready to quit my job.
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I was, like, anything he wanted, I would have given him.
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So, I mean, he was just, like, an extraordinary circumstance.
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And I knew that, like, my time with him in the United States before he bounced to wherever
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So, we spent a whole week together after, like, it was night one.
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So, before that, the first boyfriend I ever had in my life, going back to types, like,
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my friends have this joke that I strictly only date balding men in their mid-30s.
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So, the first boyfriend that I ever had, we were together, like, the first person I
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had ever been with, we were together probably, like, three months before we, before there
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And then the next boyfriend, the long-term, the four-and-a-half-year one, we were together,
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Like, did he tell me he was loyal, or what do I think?
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I don't know who, but, like, isn't it, uh, the case, like, closed on the woman's end,
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I think, like, you can't fuck other dudes, he can fuck other dudes, no, other chicks.
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I think that I chose to be proactively oblivious in the relationship a lot of the time, so
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he could, I think he was just telling me what I wanted to hear.
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But there is something that's, like, eh, if I'm not gonna leave the relationship, so
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I can have these insecurities, but if I'm gonna sit there and harp on it over and over
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and over again, he's just gonna lie anyway, so I'd either exit the relationship, like,
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if you're still following girls on Instagram every day, and I see, like, these Insta-hoes
01:08:52.540
that you're following, I assume, like, there's, you're not following them because you want
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Do you, uh, you got, is there a guy in the picture?
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A half-white, half-black, tall, sexy African man?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so after —
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So after my ex, about three years ago, I made him throw the hinge, the dating app.
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So, um, so he's four years older than me, and in Korea, we have the culture who—
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I would say the situation shift in positive way.
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So, actually, situation shift is negative word.
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Kinda like, like, people don't wanna say, I'm in situation shift, you know?
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You said you've been single for, what did you say?
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But you've been—you've been—when's the last—hold on.
01:11:08.060
And you've been seeing him for three years, but you've been single for three years?
01:11:53.060
You had a three-year situationship with the Jamea Yeakin.
01:12:01.060
And so, during that three-year period, were you dating other guys the past three years?
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Oh, we were talking a lot, so we—so, when I started some relationship with him, it's
01:12:37.060
I meant the girl in chair number one is a unicorn and is the delusional one, not gingerly
01:13:01.060
So, after I broke up with my ex, I tried to start another serious relationship.
01:13:07.060
But, kind of, also, I tried to look it up on other men's or so, not only him.
01:13:14.060
So, I missed to focus on him and I tried to date with multiple guys, to be honest.
01:13:23.060
And, but after doing this for, after a year, we were talking more, like, how we are serious,
01:13:33.060
but we cannot make, we cannot build up for now that serious relationship.
01:13:38.060
So, we've been just to, like, try to make some happen, like, to see more, share some moment,
01:14:01.060
I'm, I'm, I'm really interested to know, right?
01:14:04.060
Like, why is it that people think that they can't have a relationship?
01:14:08.060
If you, I feel like if you guys love each other, then, like, what's the problem?
01:14:13.060
Um, I think I'm, I'm a Korean, I still figuring out my accent?
01:14:21.060
Yeah, something like, you know, still learning, still need to, I don't know, something like,
01:14:26.060
so, kind of like, he also figuring out his status, like, I don't want to say that.
01:14:37.060
Something paperwork thing, first, should do it as a non-American.
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So, we are, we both are doing it, and so that's why, like, yeah, so many reasons.
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But you guys can just do those problems together.
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I, actually, I was also not a good woman for him.
01:15:13.060
When you say you're not a good woman for him, in what ways were you not a good woman?
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I think he's a U.K. guy, so I heard that U.K., he is, don't want to say, don't do it, don't do it.
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He doesn't want to have to tell you what you should do.
01:15:44.060
Did you want him to tell you, like, you can't do this?
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Because it seems like you knew what you were doing, like, was not good for the relationship.
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I think I used to do dating with who is insecure, who is trying to lash on me.
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So that's why, like, we try to, like, also, I don't like, also, like, I don't want to
01:16:23.060
talk about what I don't like about his, some point of his life.
01:16:34.060
So, just, we try to be patient to each other, but try to talk, be honest.
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01:17:53.060
I'm curious, like, your dating history sounds really cool.
01:17:59.060
Oh, I tried it, but kind of attractive with more sexist one.
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So, how is it different, like, dating, like, a Korean guy versus, like, the guys that you date now?
01:18:48.060
Of course, I wish I have that Korean guy who is, like, my crush, you know.
01:18:57.060
Because Kurt, when we have a conversation, of course, I have a language barrier.
01:19:05.060
I should, sometimes, he using something word-to-word, then I don't understand.
01:19:12.060
So, kind of, I miss the conversation sometimes.
01:19:20.060
I want to say, like, going off of that, like, the language barrier part.
01:19:24.060
Like, there was one point in my life when I was, like, a college student, and I was working full-time at a Korean restaurant, and I started dating the chef there.
01:19:31.060
And it's funny, yesterday, he just posted that he's getting married, and so, but, but, but, the chef, the reason why I mentioned him is because he actually did not speak any English, and I didn't speak any Korean.
01:19:42.060
And so, there was, like, a language barrier, but we dated for, like, more than a year.
01:19:49.060
So, okay, anyways, so, you've been single for how long, Ivy?
01:19:57.060
Have you been, but in that two-year period, have you dated any guys?
01:20:07.060
Actually, no, no, no situationships or anything.
01:20:10.060
I've been traveling the past two years, so I've been, like, traveling around, bouncing around different countries.
01:20:14.060
So, you've been 100%, like, single, no dudes, two years?
01:20:19.060
Um, like, it's, like, sometimes if I meet some guy, it's, then, you know, we like each other, then, yeah, we'll go on a date.
01:20:26.060
But, um, it never really goes beyond, like, two dates.
01:20:32.060
Um, I was celibate for one year, and I just broke it last October.
01:20:49.060
But I, like, broke my celibacy with this, like, guy that I met through my ex.
01:20:59.060
But you've been, have you been celibate since then?
01:21:08.060
No, no, because he lives in New York, and I live in LA, and I've been traveling around.
01:21:44.060
For just a little, but celibate since September.
01:21:57.060
Well, you three are dating guys, so there you go.
01:22:47.060
So, and I mean, I guess, who's from Southern California?
01:22:54.060
So, like, a lot of people, I guess, when it comes to, like, LA dating, we got three people
01:23:01.060
A lot of people seem to have a lot of complaints when it comes to dating in LA.
01:23:09.060
Distances can sometimes be a problem just because LA is so fucking big.
01:23:17.060
So, do you guys think that LA, at least in the United States, is the worst city?
01:23:28.060
Because, I mean, maybe you could say, like, oh, some town with, like, 20 people.
01:23:36.060
But I'm curious, like, is it the worst, like, larger city to date in?
01:23:45.060
Because I think for my friends that live there, it's, like, everyone thinks that they
01:23:49.060
And even though they meet someone that would match them, like, 100%, they just keep, like,
01:23:53.060
swiping on their apps and, like, oh, we'll see, like, what I can get.
01:23:57.060
So, I have, like, really smart, beautiful friends in LA.
01:24:01.060
And I'm just, like, they are, like, almost going to be doctors and, like, they're really
01:24:04.060
successful and they have really good morals and still they have trouble dating.
01:24:08.060
And so, like, they're literally a catch in, like, a dozen.
01:24:13.060
And then I just look at the guys there and then they're just, like, they'll say, they'll
01:24:18.060
I was there for three days and I did meet a guy there.
01:24:25.060
But anyways, he was saying the most to me, doing the most.
01:24:30.060
And then I see him, like, you know, taking some other girl out to court-sized seats to
01:24:37.060
And so, you're telling me that, like, you have a couple female friends who live in LA.
01:24:44.060
That live in New York and they're catches, as you would say.
01:24:52.060
I'm going to, I want to come back to that later, but I'm going to just keep it right now
01:24:57.060
By the way, chat, what do you think is the worst city to date?
01:25:05.060
Do you think LA is pretty bad when it comes to dating?
01:25:30.060
You know, I want to do a segment called Worst Cities to Date In.
01:25:39.060
Wikipedia, you know what, we have a Korean here.
01:25:50.060
I think Pyongyang's pretty bad, probably, for dating.
01:25:56.060
And then, I'm trying to think where else is a bad city.
01:26:00.060
And you can't, like, be at least, be a bit trollish, but not, like, somewhat realistic.
01:26:05.060
Like, don't say Antarctica, because that's not fair.
01:26:09.060
Chat, what's the, somebody said in the chat, somebody saying Phoenix, St. Louis, North Korea
01:27:02.060
What about, uh, where's, like, a bad place to date, chat?
01:27:11.060
Where, where's, oh, um, can you also Wikipedia the, I think it's the North Sentinelese Island.
01:27:44.060
So these are the top five worst places to date.
01:27:55.060
Keep people are saying Kiev, Russia, Detroit, Missouri, Chernobyl, a couple of the Congo.
01:28:03.060
It was a guy, I don't know which African country.
01:28:10.060
It's a guy who's, a black guy with like blonde hair, who's leaning out the back of like a Jeep.
01:28:17.060
And then there's this like African tribesmen with like white body paint, like chasing him down.
01:28:37.060
It's called, uh, wait, maybe I saw it on Reddit.
01:29:03.060
Uh, here, let's put, let's start pulling up the wikis.
01:29:35.060
Like if I took you to, to there, that would be good.
01:30:07.060
Uh, this place would be, I will pay somebody $10,000 to go here.
01:30:19.060
No, you, but you can't do any research on this place.
01:30:27.060
And you have to go, you have to go on a date here.
01:30:36.060
No, you, you just have to spend 24 hours on the island and a date with one of the islanders.
01:30:45.060
It says that that guy was killed after making eye contact with somebody.
01:30:53.060
Wait, don't scroll down further because I'm pretty sure these guys have their cocks out.
01:30:56.060
Cause they're like, they don't wear clothes for some, so I don't know if we can.
01:31:00.060
Wait, let's just do the next Wikipedia article.
01:31:01.060
It's basically, I don't know if they're cannibals, but.
01:31:17.060
And I was like, oh, I can go there for two hours.
01:31:54.060
Can somebody on my Instagram send me that video of the guy being, the black man in the
01:32:00.060
Jeep being chased by, can somebody send that to me?
01:32:05.060
Because that has nothing to do with dating, but whatever.
01:32:15.060
Loved hearing about him dating with intention for marriage.
01:32:24.060
And there's some interesting feedback when it came to that.
01:32:37.060
We already finished with everybody's like roster and situationships and whatnot.
01:32:44.060
So I wanted to go back to something you were saying, Ivy, if you can like scoot into the table.
01:32:53.060
So you said that you have a bunch of girlfriends in New York who you said they're a catch.
01:33:07.060
Some of them are doctors or going to be doctors.
01:33:14.060
But so are you saying what makes them a catch is that they're really successful and some
01:33:24.060
I'm saying they're also like really pretty and think that they have a very high EQ and they're
01:33:30.060
But yeah, I think that it's just like rough out there in the dating scene.
01:33:34.060
Everyone, guys and girls, maybe there is some problems with the girls, right?
01:33:38.060
They also maybe think that they can do better sometimes.
01:33:40.060
I think it goes both ways because I hear guys and girls do the same thing.
01:33:47.060
And they're just saying that like it's impossible to date in the city.
01:33:57.060
Because the way it sounded earlier was you're saying like, oh, you know, they're so successful.
01:34:03.060
I look at people's personalities and then people around me, they just happen to be like working
01:34:08.060
I think I'm the only one that probably has like a more unconventional lifestyle.
01:34:12.060
Like I just wasn't someone that like, well, I was at one point where I was like a school
01:34:17.060
teacher and then I decided like, oh, I did it for two years.
01:34:22.060
And so it's time for me to like, while I'm young and I can still do this, I just like go
01:34:26.060
around and travel and explore and see what else is out there.
01:34:30.060
So I like don't really stay in the States that often.
01:34:33.060
So I don't really have a lot of roots in the States, but I do know people abroad a lot.
01:34:41.060
One last thing before I go, Gavin McInnes once said that New York was an elephant's graveyard
01:34:53.060
What's the difference between a regular graveyard and an elephant graveyard?
01:35:02.060
Uh, so yeah, it's hard for the women to date in New York.
01:35:08.060
I hear about like girls asking guys out on dates and that shocked me.
01:35:14.060
And then, yeah, the guys are saying it's so fun.
01:35:17.060
So guys definitely have a lot more fun in New York.
01:35:21.060
So I think we have it a lot more easier, but nothing compares to Asia.
01:35:25.060
Cause I think that like definitely girls are chasing guys like in all over Asia.
01:35:29.060
There's like just more girls than guys, I think in like Southeast Asia.
01:35:34.060
Oh, let's do this also for, can you guys grab one of the questionnaires and get a pen?
01:35:47.060
It, there should be some just at the table, I think.
01:36:01.060
You, you can literally pass it to her and then pass it down.
01:36:09.060
We'll just have you fill it out while we're continuing on with the conversation.
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Yes, no for all these, and then answer the questions at the bottom.
01:36:20.060
Uh, I'm going to continue on with the pre-show notes.
01:36:27.060
Brenda, you said you dated someone with public allegations and it turned into a crazily online
01:36:32.060
debacle because honestly you're, we were both just drama and trauma.
01:36:37.060
It was messy and looking back, you see how much of it was fueled by unresolved wounds
01:36:46.060
Uh, so when you say you were dating this guy, was this one of your boyfriends or whatever?
01:36:53.060
Um, well in the pre-show there was like certain things that I can't say.
01:37:03.060
But you, was it involving you or somebody else?
01:37:09.060
He had wounds, didn't, never communicated and people just made allegations about him.
01:37:14.060
So, um, his reputation was, um, already like dented, I guess.
01:37:19.060
And then when I got into it, um, I obviously like, was like, fuck, fuck the allegations,
01:37:26.060
Um, and then I just learned that they're just based off of patterns.
01:37:32.060
You said also pertaining to this, that the situation taught you firsthand how social media
01:37:36.060
can be weaponized in relationships and he tried to exploit you online after you guys
01:37:54.060
So what had happened is, um, he had falsely imprisoned me and, um, I had then posted something
01:38:00.060
online about like what had actually, like what, what had happened.
01:38:04.060
And basically saying all the allegations are, I found out to be true because something happened
01:38:10.060
And then I quickly deleted it after 10 minutes.
01:38:12.060
But then by that time, because our circles are so close, um, he was already getting calls
01:38:18.060
And, um, then a couple hours later he makes a post, um, and, uh, falsely exploits me says,
01:38:25.060
I did X, Y, Z and immediately I, um, create a post and I have video and I posted the videos
01:38:33.060
and like everything that stated basically what he was saying was false.
01:38:38.060
And this is the real story because I have friends with me that day and their videos.
01:38:44.060
He falsely imprisoned you or what, what, what was it that you said?
01:38:47.060
So I don't want to, I don't want to get you because there's a lot of, I would have to
01:38:52.060
say every single thing in order for it to make sense.
01:39:12.060
He, he called, um, 911 and stated that I was doing something that I wasn't doing.
01:39:22.060
So, um, and I, I was less in, I was more in and out of it than he was, but still because,
01:39:31.060
um, I was so in and out of it when I had like woke up from a blackout, I was like talking
01:39:36.060
to the cops and then the process of imprisonment.
01:39:40.060
Was he, wait, the, the process of imprisonment started after the cops came or?
01:39:47.060
Well, yeah, because, so we were in my apartment.
01:40:06.060
And then how long were you in like the, what is it?
01:40:13.060
And, um, the moment that the psychiatrist came in, um, she did an evaluation and then deemed
01:40:25.060
Um, just until the physician came in, which was.
01:40:36.060
So it was my birthday and we had just went out to the club and, um, alcohol was involved.
01:40:46.060
So he, are you saying that the police falsely imprisoned you?
01:40:51.060
So, so basically, um, what had happened is we're in my apartment, we're fighting and it got physical
01:41:02.060
But I would, I was the one who put my hands on him first, but he was the one who shoved me
01:41:19.060
Um, we had just got into a fight because, uh, we were in a relationship and then he, and
01:41:23.060
then we were out of the relationship and then we started talking again and he didn't want
01:41:28.060
So I, um, was already in this mindset of, all right, on my birthday, like, cool, we're
01:41:35.060
And, um, on my birthday, I was trying to get, um, backstage faster.
01:41:38.060
So I was like trying to flirt with the bouncer and I'm just kind of very mad, got angry,
01:41:43.060
um, started to, uh, get aggressive with the bouncer.
01:41:51.060
And, um, this is when he starts yelling at me while we get to my apartment and, um,
01:41:56.060
my friends, uh, leave because they see me go into my apartment.
01:41:59.060
But then because we are in an argument and, um, I wanted him, I wanted to talk about it.
01:42:04.060
Uh, I call him up and I was like, I need help to get into my apartment.
01:42:11.060
He get into my apartment and his laptop is in my apartment.
01:42:14.060
Um, and this laptop was a gift, but, um, he wanted to take the gift back.
01:42:22.060
And he was like, no, like I want my stuff now and I want to leave.
01:42:24.060
And I was like, you can leave, but I'm going to keep your, keep your laptop.
01:42:43.060
Well, yeah, I needed one because, um, he, well, he loaned.
01:42:53.060
No, he said like, this is for you, but he wanted it back.
01:43:02.060
I put my hands on him first is when he shoved me, um, I was holding laptop and I fell to
01:43:08.060
And, um, because I have like concrete floor or not concrete floor, like tile floor.
01:43:12.060
Um, I took it as if like, oh, like, okay, like we're, we're going to go.
01:43:23.060
Um, and so how long were you guys doing like MMA or whatever?
01:43:30.060
I wish I could tell you how long it was, but so he called, then he called the cops.
01:43:34.060
So there's a, so I have an audio recording and it was 10 minutes long.
01:43:37.060
So for 10 minutes, that's how long it took, uh, the cops to get here to get to my place.
01:43:49.060
I was the girl who, um, who was trying to hurt him when it was, uh, back and forth.
01:44:01.060
Like, were you, you guys, were you guys throwing punches at each other?
01:44:04.060
So because he was like choking me, I started to bite him.
01:44:10.060
Like there, there's an arm on my throat, you know?
01:44:21.060
There were pieces of his, of his arm, like skin, skin out.
01:44:30.060
You have, I have nothing to do besides like, no matter what, he's stronger than me.
01:44:35.060
So you, how you bit him multiple times on the arm?
01:45:01.060
Is it like he's trying to choke you out or is he like, it's like a more restraining
01:45:09.060
So I thought it was more choked out, which is why I ended up like making that post.
01:45:13.060
But, um, because we got ended up talking after it was him trying to restrain me because,
01:45:19.060
um, when I finally told him like, I can't breathe dude.
01:45:24.060
Uh, he was like, Oh, but like we were both in like fucking effed up mode.
01:45:37.060
Who, if, if, uh, you were like rewind the tape, who looked more fucked up?
01:45:51.060
Um, because the bruises on my neck came later on.
01:45:57.060
He was, cause he had literal pieces of his arm, you know, and like he looked more.
01:46:05.060
So that's why when the cops came, that's why they made the assumption.
01:46:08.060
But were you, were you, you said, because you said that the cops said that you were like
01:46:19.060
But were you trying to fight the cops and shit?
01:46:23.060
No, the, um, so the moment the cops came in, he was on top of me and then, uh, the cops
01:46:30.060
Did you kick him in the balls like as they were pulling him off you?
01:46:36.060
The cops come on top of me and they put handcuffs on me.
01:46:38.060
And then I'm just like, what the, what's happening right now?
01:46:41.060
Cause I thought the cops were coming to stop the situation.
01:46:43.060
I thought, I thought they were coming to like, you know, like stop it.
01:46:47.060
And I didn't think that I was going to be the one getting detained.
01:46:52.060
And you said there was audio recording of this.
01:47:05.060
I kind of want to hear it, but not appropriate for the stream.
01:47:16.060
So the state didn't put any charges on me and he didn't put any charges on me.
01:47:20.060
I just, I went to, um, I went to the holding cell.
01:47:23.060
They, and this is where I didn't cooperate with the cops because I didn't.
01:47:33.060
So they didn't, they didn't 5150 you at the scene.
01:47:36.060
They arrested you because they brought you to the, the jail.
01:47:44.060
So how are you, were you like losing your mind in the jail?
01:47:49.060
So, so, so that's why I will, I wasn't cooperating.
01:47:54.060
I just moved into this apartment and I'm literally going to get dragged down in handcuffs on my
01:48:07.060
If you commit a crime on your birthday, they, you know, even if it's alleged, right?
01:48:32.060
You're beefing, you're beefing with the other cellies, the people in the cell.
01:48:36.060
So maybe it's not a cell cause I was alone in there.
01:48:44.060
No, cause they wanted my insurance and I wouldn't give it to them.
01:48:55.060
They were asking because they needed to know what hospital to send me to.
01:49:17.060
So, so when we were fighting, I was blacking in and blacking out and blacking in and blacking
01:49:22.060
So wait, if I'm black out, wake up, bite, black out.
01:49:31.060
Did you remember the taste of flashy fucking cannibal?
01:49:47.060
And she's like, this is, I have to stage a domestic violence situation so I can bite
01:49:53.060
And then it's because I think cannibalism, that's pretty serious.
01:49:58.060
But if you're just like, I bit him in self-defense, it's not a big deal.
01:50:06.060
But it was my subconscious mind because I was not coherent.
01:50:08.060
Did you guys end up pressing towards them against each other?
01:50:10.060
Tell us, in the jail cell, you were not being cooperative.
01:50:16.060
Then they called him and they asked him for what my insurance was.
01:50:19.060
And he told them and they took me to the nearest hospital.
01:50:21.060
No, but because you, first they brought you to the jail cell.
01:50:25.060
But then you were not being cooperative in jail.
01:50:28.060
So they're like, yo, she's got to go to the hospital.
01:50:42.060
So there's something that he had said on the phone.
01:50:54.060
And, um, because he had said that on the phone, um, already the cops came in with that
01:50:59.060
Were you banging your head on the glass door of the cell?
01:51:05.060
Because if somebody is hurting themselves that way, they're going to.
01:51:12.060
No, I'm just curious if they put you in a straight jacket.
01:51:16.060
So, so when I was actually in there, they, they'd restrain me because I tried to leave.
01:51:23.060
You said that to the police officers in the jail.
01:51:29.060
When I was in the hospital, I was like waiting.
01:51:35.060
After I tried to walk out, I was like, I'm leaving.
01:51:40.060
You were like a police guard at the hospital, right?
01:52:05.060
But I am so grateful for that experience because I wouldn't have what I have right
01:52:09.060
And I wouldn't have learned like to like not make stupid decisions and get myself into
01:52:23.060
It is cool because again, a lot of growth came from that and I'm like forever grateful
01:52:27.060
that I, it sucks that yeah, I had to be like that to that degree to where I had to
01:52:31.060
like learn something, but like that's just fucking happened.
01:52:45.060
Well, we tried after we went back to each other for a couple months.
01:52:47.060
I made a public statement to like protect him because obviously like the stuff that I
01:53:00.060
If she takes outer flesh out of me, I think I have to break up with it.
01:53:10.060
I know maybe, you know, stuff happens, whatever.
01:53:12.060
Just cannibal, like casual cannibalism in a relationship.
01:53:16.060
But I feel like once she takes, once a girl bites your flesh off, it's, oh, it has
01:53:25.060
Well then like, then they'll choke the girl and then she won't bite you.
01:53:31.060
Well, in bed it's different and totally different in bed.
01:53:34.060
By the way, I don't, who here wants to be choked?
01:53:50.060
What if they tuck you in after and then they cuddle you?
01:53:51.060
Alina is more like, you're Russian, right Alina?
01:53:56.060
What's the, what's the, she does combat sombo in bed.
01:54:20.060
She like goes, she spars before she has, she gets down because she's a combat sombo.
01:54:42.060
Like our, just our relationship entirely, you know, what's up with all y'all wanting
01:54:49.060
Like it went from like wholesome, wholesome to like choke me daddy.
01:55:03.060
I think you guys got like a violence or something.
01:55:06.060
No, but like it, it like reduces, like, it's like a euphoria feeling cause it does.
01:55:11.060
It reduces, it's, it's, you can like look into it.
01:55:16.060
So it's like a euphoric, like lightheaded, like it's, there's a reason behind it.
01:55:20.060
It's not just because like, oh, I want to say that I like to be choked cause it makes
01:55:26.060
Like you'd like to get choked in bed because there's like a deep part of you that's like
01:55:31.060
I don't have trauma, but that's not why I like to get choked.
01:55:32.060
I did not like it until I met my current boyfriend.
01:55:35.060
I would never allow it until I was with my current boyfriend.
01:55:46.060
Um, and he didn't send it and he, I don't think he sent it.
01:55:52.060
Um, because to me it's not like, yeah, it's freaky, whatever, but it's literally like I
01:56:03.060
And that's not something I, it's, and it's hot.
01:56:05.060
And then I was withdrawing off of nicotine too.
01:56:27.060
But I feel like also there's a right and a wrong way to do it.
01:56:34.060
There's a difference between trying to make it an enjoyable experience and trying to
01:56:40.060
Like it's just never, there's a right and a wrong way to do it.
01:56:44.060
You're having somebody with both hands and like, that's not how you do it.
01:56:58.060
Like if it's like a, just the hand on the neck and I can put a little weight on it.
01:57:07.060
But when it's like, it goes into breath play, then I'm a little nervous.
01:57:13.060
Like if a girl just wants a hand on like, and it's like a lip, that's okay.
01:57:18.060
Like some of these girls, man, if you're doing that, at least for advice for men, if you're
01:57:22.060
doing that with a chick, you gotta get her to text you that shit.
01:57:28.060
I want you to do this shit because I ain't gonna, I'm not gonna be in a position dealing
01:57:38.060
If you, and first off, I don't want to, I'm not, I wouldn't smack a girl around.
01:57:46.060
But like a choke or something, hair pulling, whatever, spanking, I'll do it.
01:57:51.060
But like, you want to, you want fucking bruises on your body.
01:57:54.060
You gotta be on fucking camera telling me that shit, but I'm not doing it anyways.
01:58:00.060
Um, but, uh, some more like more tame stuff I'm okay with.
01:58:05.060
Um, but any, any guys out there who like are into the, that stuff and the chicks like,
01:58:12.060
maybe you're a little naive and she's like, Oh, I want you to put bruises on me, hit me,
01:58:19.060
You got to protect yourself in that kind of situation.
01:58:21.060
Cause you know what I mean, chat, you know what I mean?
01:58:31.060
Look, if, if it turns my partner on, right, there are things that don't do anything for
01:58:39.060
And, and so like, if it turns them on, it'll turn me on.
01:58:42.060
But there are just some certain things I'm not going to do.
01:58:49.060
What if you just like try everything once and if you don't like it, you don't have
01:58:53.060
There's some things I just will not do a hundred percent boundary.
01:59:15.060
But if it, whatever, if you know, look, sometimes you care about your partner.
01:59:22.060
They got something a little quirky or interesting.
01:59:25.060
If it's not anything that's a boundary, you can kind of, I think it's fine.
01:59:50.060
This is why no decent man will date a raver, he thought chair eight.
02:00:28.060
I hope y'all been in the lab working on your craft instead of sitting behind the screen busting
02:00:33.060
nuts and dropping your welfare checks on these degenerate 304s.
02:00:37.060
Stop making excuses and feeling sorry for yourselves.
02:00:41.060
First off, Mike Davis, I, uh, Mike Davis is the, the OG.
02:01:03.060
I don't know the last time you've sent in a super chat, but it's really good to see you,
02:01:11.060
I hope you've opened up a bunch more Burger King franchises.
02:01:16.060
Maybe you can like get Quiznos up and running again, too.
02:01:23.060
He's been here since, I don't know the exact number of the episode when you first started,
02:01:28.060
but I think it was like the first 10, first 20.
02:01:31.060
You're an OG back in, I mean, it was for sure back in 2022.
02:01:38.060
Uh, I know you don't stop by as often as you used to, but it's really good to see you.
02:01:42.060
Uh, you, pretty much you single-handedly kept the show going early on because you were like our number,
02:01:48.060
or kind of like our, you, Davon Jackson, uh, were like our kind of really initial patrons.
02:01:58.060
We haven't seen you in a bit, but thank you so much, man.
02:02:17.060
I was on a, I was on a trip all weekend and I, I just didn't get much sleep.
02:02:28.060
Uh, we, uh, we basically took it over strong arm, James pretty proud of that.
02:02:34.060
Did you, I, I didn't see, get to see much just cause I had my own show going, but, uh,
02:02:39.060
did you debate with Brianna Wu or was that somebody else?
02:02:56.060
Uh, we're going to get into, I don't know if you were listening, but we're just going
02:03:02.060
Uh, oh, oh, last thing for this guy, you said to make it a bit more juicier.
02:03:10.060
This same man had an only fan subscription to your best friend and would use it anytime
02:03:27.060
Um, so I, I want to just like put it on the table so he doesn't look like some like,
02:03:30.060
like, or my ex doesn't look like some like weird, weird man, but I also had an OF and I
02:03:37.060
I wouldn't use it, but it was just there to like, uh, collect the money that was from
02:03:40.060
the subscribers that were like already, um, like there.
02:03:44.060
And, um, I got it before we got, wait, wait, hang on, hang on before you continue.
02:03:51.060
It was just there to collect money from subscribers who were already there.
02:03:56.060
I just, um, I've had subscribers cause when I posted about it, a lot of people ended up
02:04:00.060
subscribing and ended up staying and they just pay per month waiting for me to post.
02:04:08.060
Uh, at that time, no, because we were in, we got into a relationship and he felt uncomfortable
02:04:20.060
Um, so because that existed, um, I think probably like it triggered him in his mind to
02:04:30.060
He, uh, she was a good friend of mine and anytime we had an argument, he would go
02:04:42.060
If you think about it from the angle of the boyfriend.
02:04:44.060
So like, if you're doing, if you're doing OF, then you can't really have any moral problems
02:04:54.060
You know what I mean by that's what he was probably thinking.
02:04:56.060
That's why like you want, he was okay with doing that, but I was really hurt in the moment.
02:05:01.060
Of course, when I found out I was like, you know, F you, like, we're not going to talk
02:05:07.060
And, um, yeah, so it actually gets really juicy and I'm down to share it.
02:05:13.060
So when we were fighting during that moment, um, I had, I was already back at my apartment
02:05:18.060
and we were texting this argument and, um, he wanted to talk so bad with me.
02:05:29.060
He called me again and he was like, anything that you need, like from a private number,
02:05:33.060
anything that you need, like this, like, I want, I go, I want to work on this.
02:05:37.060
Um, because around this time is when I was like making a public statement to try to like
02:05:41.060
defend what had happened before, like what I had said, him, like, you know, abusing me
02:05:45.060
And I was like, all right, then I'll send me, send me my rent, send me three K and I'll
02:05:50.060
And, um, he sent me my rent and then we had a conversation and then we got back together
02:06:06.060
But the best friend though that he was subscribed to, like, did y'all still keep in contact?
02:06:11.060
Like she's like, yeah, I'm not going to get mad at it.
02:06:17.060
It's not her fault, but wouldn't you still feel uncomfortable though?
02:06:18.060
Like if I catch my man, like I would have an OnlyFans, but let me say like I would be
02:06:26.060
He's, if you have OnlyFans, he can go subscribe to any girl, but that he specifically chose your best
02:06:39.060
I'm just saying, wouldn't you feel uncomfortable?
02:06:44.060
I mean, maybe it took me a while to like reconnect with her on like the level that we
02:06:51.060
It's kind of like going with the flow and not really thinking too much about it.
02:06:55.060
If anything, he, he told on himself, like there's guys that hang out with their, with
02:07:01.060
And they secretly are thinking probably nine times out of 10.
02:07:05.060
Oh, that friend, I would do this, that, and the other thing with.
02:07:08.060
He told exactly what friend and exactly, he made her more perceptive to the situation
02:07:15.060
I actually really liked that story because I think I went through like a similar problem
02:07:21.060
with two guys that I dated and they both liked like my friend first.
02:07:25.060
And so it was really tough for me because like, Oh no, one of them was the ex I was talking
02:07:30.060
The one that I broke up with to go to the military.
02:07:34.060
And then like he said, he, you know, wanted to like, you know, still be with me.
02:07:38.060
But then as soon as he met my friend, they started talking and he was like, Oh, you know,
02:07:46.060
And then she, I only knew her for a week at that point, but I really liked her a lot.
02:07:52.060
And the same ex, he also hit on my best friend in college at UCSD two years prior.
02:07:57.060
And so, and I still stayed with that guy, but it's like, it is tough.
02:08:00.060
I will say like these friendships, like the girls, like as long as the guy's out of the
02:08:04.060
picture, you can still be friends with the girl.
02:08:05.060
But like when I was still dating that guy, I like lost that best friend at UCSD.
02:08:13.060
I'm like, Oh, I really resonate with that a lot.
02:08:15.060
It's all like the mental mind game, you know, like if you tell yourself like this person
02:08:18.060
is, I'm going to be uncomfortable around this person, you're going to be uncomfortable.
02:08:21.060
But like, if you just don't really think about it that in that way, then you just, you're
02:08:27.060
Well, I, I went to therapy and I talked about it.
02:08:33.060
Like I, I, I'm still dealing with like the whole like healing process, but I'm at a place
02:08:38.060
where I could talk about it and not like, um, did you say, um, did you say that you journal
02:08:45.060
Oh, I journal and I practice mindful meditation.
02:08:59.060
Like, uh, I looked into a stoicism and a Taoism and a lot of like these philosophies have
02:09:02.060
really like rewired my brain to like, not be, um, toxic.
02:09:10.060
The fact that you're not attached to someone's decision and, um, it doesn't just a, I feel
02:09:17.060
like I'm more in tune with my, with my inner emotion because I don't let my actions become
02:09:25.060
And I think that's something that I struggled with in the past of like, I needed to be validated.
02:09:30.060
I needed to control a situation and it would lead me into like what had happened, you know?
02:09:35.060
And the moment that I detached and detached, but still like with love, I was able to just
02:09:42.060
fully, um, feel like more peace of mind and more calm and just, yeah.
02:10:05.060
Cause you know, like when you're younger, you felt like you had to control the situations
02:10:08.060
and that's like a very older child mentality to have.
02:10:10.060
Cause I feel like younger kids are just like, you know, they're the last one.
02:10:15.060
They don't have to like hide things or like care about like-
02:10:23.060
So it's like, I'm at rock bottom and I thought I couldn't go any lower and I just kept getting
02:10:27.060
lower and I'm like, all right, Brenda, like let's figure this shit out.
02:10:30.060
Let's actually like try to be a good person and, um, learn from this.
02:10:35.060
And so I feel like I had to, like, there was no other way.
02:10:38.060
I was just going to keep, I was going to keep going lower.
02:11:01.060
Oh, you look like Alina from like Vampire Diaries.
02:11:05.060
I like how you, uh, how you repeated all of their names so that.
02:11:53.060
Uh, somebody take that pen from her because it's a menace.
02:12:04.060
But I was just going to throw it and let it, let the chips fall where they may.
02:12:19.060
I almost want to just jump into the questionnaire because it's kind of more interesting.
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And then we'll do some of your guys's, uh, notes.
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You said you dated a guy for a month and then he broke up and stole your dog and $3,000.
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Uh, this, the story is, um, it's really traumatizing actually.
02:12:37.060
But yeah, so this guy also I was telling you about another guy that liked my friend first
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I don't know if you guys have been to Korea, but there's like a street.
02:12:47.060
It's really popular for like clubs, people shop, walking.
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He just like, he asked my friends out on the street.
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And then she was scared to go on a date with him because he was a random guy on the street.
02:13:03.060
So she asked me, Ivy, can you and Manami, which is her Japanese roommate, can you two
02:13:09.060
So it's one guy and we only met him the day before and it was three girls.
02:13:14.060
And then during that date, or it wasn't a date, it was like a hangout then.
02:13:20.060
And then he took us to this really beautiful pasta restaurant in Yongnam-dong.
02:13:25.060
And then we actually hit off really well because he studied at UIUC.
02:13:29.060
So it's like, you know, a college in the States.
02:13:34.060
And so I think that's why we hit it off because he's like, oh, I haven't used this much English
02:13:38.060
And then at the time I was actually dating a guy in LA.
02:13:42.060
It was like this Korean chef that didn't speak English.
02:13:49.060
And then I broke up with the boyfriend I was dating in LA to date that guy.
02:13:54.060
And yeah, from the minute we met to us dating, it took us like a week.
02:13:58.060
And we went on a trip with all our friends to Busan.
02:14:01.060
And then, yeah, it was a pretty good time for a while.
02:14:13.060
I just kind of checked out there after like 20 irrelevant details.
02:14:25.060
I was very interested in what type of street lights were there.
02:14:54.060
So, I lived in the Bay before I moved back to LA.
02:15:06.060
I kind of knew it was like eventually like going to be long distance.
02:15:08.060
Because I had to go back to America where I had the teaching job lined up.
02:15:19.060
Because towards the end, I was like, oh, you know.
02:15:23.060
So, like I'll like take care of him while you're gone in the States.
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And it, of course, was a really tiny one of those.
02:16:01.060
But like, they had like, it was a two bedroom, right?
02:16:04.060
And his roommate was like, oh, I actually don't like having Ivy over all the time.
02:16:07.060
And at the time, I was living in the dorms in Korea.
02:16:21.060
And so, the roommate was like, oh, can she not come over anymore?
02:16:26.060
And I was like, I'm literally going to leave back to the States soon.
02:16:31.060
So, I should like, be able to come out and see the dog.
02:16:35.060
Saying like, oh, I can't do anything about that.
02:16:38.060
And so, I told him like, can you just man up a little bit?
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And I kind of like, compared him to my ex-boyfriend.
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Because the entire time, we were on the drive up to Namsan Tower.
02:17:02.060
And so, he was like, I'm just going to drop you off at your dorm.
02:17:10.060
But, I just wanted to let you know, I'm eating some of my daughter's birthday cake.
02:17:34.060
If you're appreciating detail, tell us about band camp.
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If you heard my list of red flags, that's like 70% of like everybody, but...
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Hopefully we can finish it before the end of the show, but...
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I don't know why, but what makes you feel like it's a red flag?
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There's just certain interests where I'm like, you know...
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How many red flags can you overlook before they're out?
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Any of that goofy ass hippie cult shit is always a red flag.
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From the time that my dog was kidnapped by my ex-boyfriend's best friend.
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Look, I do be fucking around with a little bit of neurosis.
02:20:11.060
So you don't own a Pitbull, but you're just like, oh, it's the owner.
02:20:35.060
No, it's like, if she's like, hey, sorry, I just gotta text my mom that I'm here.
02:20:40.060
But if she's like scrolling on Snapchat, scrolling on Instagram, I'm literally, I've done this
02:20:49.060
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say anything to you.
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I'm not gonna be like, yo, what are you doing on your phone?
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You've already demonstrated that you're fucking rude.
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Well, I mean, it displays that they're not interested in my, like, if you have to scroll
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through your phone or you're scrolling through Instagram or something, unless you were having
02:21:18.060
a conversation, like, oh, I have a, like, I have a Belgian Malmoth, for example.
02:21:21.060
And like, I would always kind of use that as a talking point on a date.
02:21:23.060
And I'll be like, oh, like, yeah, I could, I could show you a photo.
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I mean, that's a little different, but if you just blank out on the date and you're like scrolling.
02:21:41.060
Because that's when they're doing that shit with a dude.
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Hairstylist, works in HR, flight attendant, travel nurse, any career where she travels frequently,
02:21:54.060
physical sales, because they're traveling a ton and fucking doctors, flirting with doctors
02:22:13.060
HR can be a type of job that does conflict resolution management.
02:22:20.060
Many, many firms have been adding conflict resolution managers to make sure that their
02:22:35.060
Oh, and then some tattoos don't mind, but no offense, Brenda, sternum tattoo.
02:22:57.060
Spider, any spider web tattoos, especially on the...
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If they have spider web tattoo on the elbow, that, yeah, that, be careful there.
02:23:51.060
But did you get to the part about the $3,000 and the dog?
02:23:58.060
Like, you know, you got to understand, like, who they are and, like, how you met them.
02:24:02.060
Like, for you to, like, be involved in the story.
02:24:47.060
No, but I like to hang out with my family a lot.
02:25:03.060
I can see your nail polish gleaming in the lights right now.
02:25:18.060
I was kind of confused when I first read the sign though.
02:25:37.060
You know, they make you feel like it's all about you and customer service.
02:25:50.060
As soon as I walk in, they greet me right away.
02:27:06.060
I think that's really weird that she got the accent.
02:27:12.060
Can we just acknowledge the fact that there was a female comedian up there, and when she
02:27:15.060
was done, you didn't say she was funny, you said she did a great job.
02:27:19.060
Has anybody in the history of the world ever walked away from a comedy show and been like,
02:27:41.060
I think because some of my friends are comedians.
02:27:44.060
to be like they were hilarious they were super funny we were dying laughing I've heard all that
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I've never heard they've done it they did a great job yeah no it's because I understand how comedy
02:27:54.520
works some of my friends work as comedians so I see the way she wrote her joke and the way she
02:27:59.180
paused and I'm like oh that was a really good job like she scripted it really well and then her
02:28:03.740
accent like her voices I think that she portrayed that character really well as well so I just look
02:28:09.520
to be fair yeah we didn't we didn't finish the whole bit because it was wait there was more
02:28:14.840
yeah there was more it was I'm sure it would have gotten way funnier if you would have just let it
02:28:18.520
I probably yeah probably um but Andrew you weren't a fan it sounds like you didn't think it was very
02:28:23.460
funny he said I thought it was hilarious I was laughing the whole time her accent is the is good
02:28:29.560
can anybody she did a great job right we all get used to we did that late my nails are done by
02:28:37.400
Vietnamese lady in Vietnam in in wait I just came back from Vietnam yesterday oh from yesterday
02:28:43.520
okay that's cool rock and roll okay well uh I don't I have no idea why I pulled that up just just
02:28:51.360
I think you said like because I sound like that is that why no no it was Andrew's fault
02:28:59.180
Andrew told me to pull it up Andrew told me that Andrew sent me the video Andrew sent me the video
02:29:05.840
he's like Brian play this right now because he was saying he was commenting about your voice
02:29:10.360
people comment about that my students in Oakland were like Miss Ivy you sound like you have a list
02:29:15.580
you sound like you have an Asian accent I always get I have an Asian accent but I was born in America
02:29:20.420
like a little bit a little bit I think the past like few years I spent more time in Asia than in
02:29:28.060
the States so I think I adapted their like yeah okay uh all right let's see we okay the here stole
02:29:36.420
your dog $300,000 no 30 seconds imagine 300 oh sorry 3,000 my bad oh my god how did he steal the dog
02:29:43.660
was it just like you couldn't have it at your apartment so he ended up like ultimately taking
02:29:46.900
it like I had my dog really stolen like really went to domestic violence court
02:29:50.080
wait wait wait wait let's just have her tell the story go ahead no no that's true actually I guess
02:29:55.280
you know on paper it was technically his dog because he was Korean so he put the dog under his
02:29:59.760
name and then we were on the street so he was like I'm gonna drop you off for your dorm and I told him
02:30:04.120
don't drop me off my dorm drop me off at this cafe and so it's a cafe next to our college and my
02:30:08.280
friend was waiting for me already there the girl that he'd originally asked out on right here so I'm
02:30:13.120
just gonna okay I'm gonna just ask questions so that we can get to the bottom of the story
02:30:18.380
I was almost done no no how long were you guys doing a great job right yeah I think I was doing
02:30:22.440
a good job how long were you guys dating um a little over a month okay and so you guys bought
02:30:29.020
a dog together uh technically I paid for all of it you paid for the dog okay but it was in his name
02:30:35.220
yeah oh you guys were dating for a month and you bought a dog together yeah he I really liked him
02:30:43.760
at the time the guy put a how does one put a dog in their name okay but have you guys ever dated
02:30:49.080
like a Korean guy they're very like fast they move very fast and they're very were you guys living
02:30:54.260
together no as it happens neither myself nor Brian have dated Korean guys yeah it's like you know like
02:31:00.800
I hate to say but it's like very similar to those like movies that you see like they'll say a lot of
02:31:04.940
stuff and they'll do a lot for you but anyways um we weren't living together but we basically were
02:31:09.620
because I was kind of staying with him every day at his uh at his apartment how much was the dog
02:31:13.480
uh it was like six hundred dollars and then whose idea was it to it was um his idea he was like oh be
02:31:20.920
cute we got a dog I was like oh my god yeah I've always wanted a dog and so that's why okay so you
02:31:26.780
paid for it and then so you but you guys broke up or whatever it was a really bad breakup yeah
02:31:32.860
what do you mean bad oh a little over a month I was like when you say it was a really bad breakup
02:31:38.380
yeah like I I've never like been so heartbroken like my friends were like you're going crazy Ivy
02:31:44.200
I was kind of going crazy yeah I like when you say you're going crazy what were you doing uh just
02:31:49.400
like I think every day just like crying a lot I think that's crazy to me and the breakup he initiated
02:31:54.860
it uh no uh basically like I would say at the time I was still young so when he had done that to
02:32:00.720
me where he just dropped me off I have this like back then I don't have it now I have this toxic
02:32:05.100
trick where if they do something bad to me I immediately blocked their number like even though
02:32:09.160
we didn't break up yet so we didn't break up he just said like oh just I'm gonna drop you off
02:32:13.120
and then he took the dog I was like wait today's like my day with the dog I'm gonna take her but
02:32:17.720
he just like you know he's pretty strong so my friend and him were actually fighting so my best
02:32:21.880
friend and him were fighting together for the dog he took it and then she ran after him he was
02:32:26.700
driving actually and she actually ran after him she's very very good friend and then
02:32:30.680
she got into his car she actually opened the door so hard that she slammed his um window
02:32:35.420
thing against the pole and he got really mad and then yeah but then she told me like oh he'll be
02:32:40.640
back later he'll talk to you and I said oh I don't want to talk to him ever again after what he did so
02:32:44.640
I blocked him and then he tried to call me text me but I still blocked him sure how did he steal
02:32:48.860
three thousand dollars um so that was like um two weeks after the breakup yeah okay how did he how did
02:32:55.740
he do it so there was a period of time like maybe like a week we just went without talking but
02:33:00.040
like every day we'll kind of like text each other like oh hi like something like that and then one
02:33:05.420
day he was like oh can we meet I was like yeah sure and he was like oh I'm going to do something I was
02:33:09.780
like what's up and he was like can we like meet up in person and then yeah so he we went to his car
02:33:15.000
pick me from the dorm and then he was like oh I have like this large credit card bill and like I can't
02:33:20.020
take money out of my bank account and I was like I felt bad because you know yeah at the time I was
02:33:24.780
making quite a bit of money in Korea so I was like oh how much do you need he's like oh this much oh
02:33:28.780
oh yeah I have that like in my purse right now and then you had just you had three thousand in cash
02:33:33.400
yeah in my purse wait was and just uh oh this is like in Korean money this is so it's like three
02:33:39.020
thousand three thousand dollars equivalent in Korean money where it's just like maybe four point five
02:33:45.400
million four yeah four million what's the name of the currency and uh one one Korean one okay but
02:33:51.520
so converted it's three thousand USD um okay and you just had that in your purse and this was in
02:33:58.340
Korea yeah yeah and we were in his car and then um I was like oh yeah and then I was thinking about
02:34:04.440
it for a bit I was like what exactly use it for he just let me pay off my credit card bill I'll pay
02:34:08.200
you back when my brother goes to college and now he'll Venmo you and I was like okay yeah because I
02:34:12.780
know both of the brothers they studied abroad and stuff so I know that they're good for it and then
02:34:17.040
yeah he just took it and then I like reminded him like a couple months later when I was back in like
02:34:22.160
the bay wait hold on really quick from for the rest of the show can you whatever the question is
02:34:28.600
and you're like about to tell a story I want you to start this story by saying this one time at band
02:34:33.360
camp so I'm gonna I interrupted it so we'll we'll do the interest so so say this one time at band
02:34:38.800
camp and now continue on with the story but this didn't happen at band camp I know but just you just
02:34:44.480
have to do it I'm sorry just do it go go go go go say it this one time at band camp that's it yeah
02:34:50.940
but but say it for real no this is one time yeah no no this one time at band camp and then continue
02:34:56.620
with your story this one time at band camp okay keep going and then to keep going with the story
02:35:03.520
yeah um I left Korea and then I never saw him again since then and I never saw the money and I
02:35:09.400
hear to this day that he uses the dog to pick up other girls on the streets yeah so wait a couple
02:35:14.340
things here so from the day that you gave him the money and then how soon after did you leave
02:35:20.560
um I left maybe a month after and it was did he tell you he was going to pay you back yeah of course
02:35:27.320
he said I'm gonna pay back I wouldn't have given it to him if he did and did you ask him I asked him
02:35:31.300
many times to pay me back even after you came back to the USA yeah yeah I called him no we we got
02:35:35.640
into a call it was really cute I was in San Mateo I was like in San Mateo why does it matter
02:35:41.760
you could have been in fucking Antarctica it doesn't matter where you were but okay my friend tells me
02:35:50.640
that she's like I'd be like when you like do your video sometimes you start off with like the time
02:35:54.180
in the place and no one cares what what uh what um was it autumn or fall wait that's the same
02:36:01.800
fall this was fall oh it's fall okay was it was it uh what was the temperature it was like 8 p.m
02:36:07.560
that day what was the temperature it's quite chilly was it chilly it was a chilly San Francisco yeah
02:36:12.500
weather fall day okay color were his socks that day yeah what did you have for lunch on that
02:36:19.180
I had salmon with rice but okay uh you called him I don't know I did we got into a call so basically
02:36:27.160
my friend had threatened him she texted him saying that like if you don't reply to Ivy or if you don't
02:36:31.340
give her back her money then I'm gonna tell like all your friends something what you did and then he
02:36:34.780
was like okay so he actually called me back he messaged me in cacao talk and was like oh Ivy let's
02:36:39.540
talk and then we got into cacao talk um and we called each other and it was really fun we talked for
02:36:44.280
like two hours we laughed he said like oh I'm gonna pay you back and all that stuff and I'm like
02:36:48.360
awesome and then yeah I followed up with him a year after that he didn't and actually a year
02:36:53.100
after that I went back to Korea with the new guy I was dating so I was dating this new guy and they
02:36:57.600
had the same last name and then I told him I told my ex I was like I'm back in Korea I'm here if you
02:37:02.320
can give me the money that'll be great and he was like yeah let me get it to you and then he just
02:37:05.840
ghosted me yeah yeah that's what happened that um damn but my mom said that there's karma and so
02:37:16.100
she said that you shouldn't worry about that because yeah I don't get him uh well I mean but
02:37:21.300
hold on when it comes to the dog you were in Korea but you knew with intention you were going back to
02:37:28.340
the United States right yeah so it seems like well hold on I mean I wasn't take the dog with me to
02:37:34.740
America it's so hard to import pets in and out of the country I just tried to do this in Australia
02:37:40.260
and it's literally insane they have services it costs like ten thousand dollars per pet they have
02:37:46.120
to be quarantined same thing in America for like 30 days it's so stressful and it's really
02:37:51.380
honestly it's okay here's my assessment yeah the dog thing yeah you paid for it but like you
02:37:56.940
you bought it in his country it's his dog and it was it was his idea were you were you gonna you
02:38:03.140
were gonna pay to have the dog flown it's so they have like puppy carrier services so a lot of a lot
02:38:08.580
of families in America like a lot of Korean families they import the dog from Korea it's
02:38:13.060
really regardless of what okay could you afford that for like ten grand no it's a it's one one
02:38:16.980
thousand it's different it's one you could have just bought a new dog wait you bought all the way
02:38:22.080
stop stop stop stop stop stop you bought the dog for six hundred dollars why would you ship I mean look
02:38:31.800
I know you get it you had the dog for like a couple weeks you could just buy a new dog I know but this
02:38:37.760
I thought was really cute what yeah it's a pump spit and it was really quiet so like I know all
02:38:43.160
the dogs that in the town like this one didn't bark that okay cool so did you like bomb with it
02:38:48.440
though you just said it was really cute if I lost my dog I would be distraught she's like my best
02:38:53.340
yeah this was two years ago I was that's why I said it was really bad for me I lost a lot of weight
02:38:57.280
my friends were like oh Ivy you seem like pretty like yeah I was like half the size I was now
02:39:03.140
basically yeah okay um so okay the dog thing whatever the three thousand I think you're in
02:39:11.840
the right there you loaned him the money he said he would pay you back he should pay you back that's
02:39:17.160
wrong he didn't steal it from you though no you have no he didn't but you said he stole your stole
02:39:22.360
your dog and the 3k I don't think I don't think he stole the dog uh there's a dispute a civil dispute
02:39:30.360
hold on hold on hold on hold on there's a civil dispute over the dog there's a civil dispute over
02:39:37.500
through the 3 000 if he went into your purse and took the money out of your purse that would be
02:39:44.300
stealing 3 000 civilly I think he would if you went in front of a court or something he would owe you
02:39:50.500
three thousand dollars you loaned him money he either isn't able to or is unwilling to pay it back
02:39:56.040
I don't think that that's theft or stealing um I am a little confused though on the dog front
02:40:01.820
despite your feelings towards him and the love bombing or whatever it was why you would purchase
02:40:08.140
a dog with somebody with the intention of like wanting to keep it knowing that you were leaving
02:40:14.360
the country in one month time that's a little bit confusing to me you probably I mean this guy
02:40:21.320
maybe does this to other women though this could be like a tinder swindler sort of thing
02:40:25.600
like do you think do you know what's so funny is that you mentioned that because the day after he
02:40:30.260
asked my friend out she swiped on tinder and she saw him on tinder wow yeah are you um are you do you
02:40:36.140
consider yourself a bit naive uh I think I think I took good care of myself I don't think so
02:40:42.180
I don't consider myself just but people might say so people might say I don't I wouldn't like if I
02:40:49.540
was in a foreign country it wasn't that foreign to me because I went there so well you're you're
02:40:55.040
Vietnamese right it's I'm American Vietnamese Chinese American right but you don't have
02:41:00.880
citizenship in Korea no I do have citizenship in Vietnam or no uh no I don't okay and I was living
02:41:07.020
there too okay um I think citizenship doesn't matter there's people that have American citizenships
02:41:13.720
and they wouldn't say they're American but I mean you you had a plan you were coming back to the
02:41:17.820
United States I don't think you like if you're about to leave a country I don't think you give
02:41:24.320
somebody three thousand dollars oh about to leave yeah he said he was an event mommy bag
02:41:29.380
I have a question about the dog would you still have been upset about it if he gave you back the
02:41:34.100
three thousand dollars and said listen I really want to keep the dog like I was the one that wanted
02:41:37.400
the dog the dog I don't know boy girl she it he I don't know lives with me I will give you thirty
02:41:42.080
six hundred dollars to let the dog go would you have said okay yeah I just told him if you can keep the
02:41:45.620
dog if you want just like you know give me the six hundred dollars and he couldn't yeah all right
02:41:50.760
um I'm very reasonable how be honest though how how often were you harassing him oh I was not a good
02:42:01.400
girlfriend yeah oh sorry I would say yeah I wasn't like a good girlfriend back then because like I
02:42:07.240
think that he promised me a lot of stuff so I was like oh since you promised this you know I can demand
02:42:11.200
it I was kind of like that so I was a little bit high maintenance and that but were you like
02:42:14.960
the with the whole dog thing the three thousand dollars even like I imagine you were blowing up
02:42:22.640
his phone oh sending him messages fuck you like oh no no I don't do that no no no I don't I don't
02:42:29.440
say me messages because I think those things can be like yeah I don't like that blow up all right we
02:42:34.640
have a chat here from Jason oh my god who the hell cares chair for okay thank you uh Jason Cassell thank
02:42:40.300
you for the uh hundred man I do really appreciate the message thank you so much we have stifler ask
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actually yeah that's fine ask everyone oh no I have to wait until she's back one moment uh one moment
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there oh we have hold on oh damn this guy sent it in three wait hold on sorry for the delays on this
02:42:58.300
donated two hundred dollars what is bro yapping about right now is that me yapping I'm not sure I think
02:43:05.320
you're the bro yeah I do like penis guys w's in the chat for peanut oh no oh oh my god
02:43:23.460
uh yo anna thank you for being here right now is that me right right now is that me right right
02:43:24.960
dude bro bro he has donated two hundred dollars he sent it in three times what is bro yapping about
02:43:32.240
what is penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis oh my god
02:43:38.840
oh my god unbelievable oh my god freaking he what a trickster penis he got me okay let me shout out
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people on venmo and cash app really quick uh yo anna thank you so much for the ten dollars on venmo
02:43:55.620
thank you so much jeffrey chong thank you for the 25 he has donated two hundred dollars
02:44:00.400
what is bro yapping about how do they have this much money you just send it like that
02:44:06.080
they got they got crypto pumps and stuff uh yo joffrey chong thank you for the 25 w's in the chat
02:44:13.400
for joffrey lannister and then cash app mc rocker thank you for the 10 man colin thank you for the 20
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appreciate it guys all right then mo cash app if you want 100 of your patronage and contribution to
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go to the whatever podcast whatever pod on there links in the description read 100 tts 200 guys like
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the video if you can all right uh i do have to wait for that one really quick so i'll just do a quick
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note from somebody else here while does anybody here have plastic surgery fake boobs lip filler i have
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lip filler lip filler lip filler i want it though my lips are uneven i want to consider that plastic
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surgery though because it um it dissolves after after like six to 12 months okay cool yeah uh ask
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everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you cannot pick seven rate your own looks on
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a scale of one to ten starting with you brinda go ahead okay eight eight okay i think that's a really
02:45:09.040
objective question i know this is a long-winded answer for something that revolve like and should just be
02:45:12.840
short but objectively compared to what like there's women that have plastic surgery that don't really
02:45:19.200
look like that in miami who are objectively tens but if they didn't have that plastic surgery they'd be
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a five so like there's this joke where i live i live in a very small town and the joke is like for
02:45:29.480
that small town they're a nine but if you put them in miami they'd be a four so it's like uh the
02:45:35.020
entirety of the united states so like this encompasses media so it's not just who you can visually see in
02:45:41.820
person but who you've been exposed to your entire life in the media in print in journalism you saw
02:45:48.060
a beautiful woman on the front of a magazine cover you saw her on a tv show you got a celebrity crush
02:45:53.080
uh an athlete whatever it is it's encompassing media but i'm primarily just looking at the united
02:45:59.060
states because there's people always oh okay so it includes like plastic surgery and girls who have
02:46:03.140
like pinched and photoshopped well i mean the thing is with plastic surgery if you ask men of their
02:46:06.800
assessment of women with plastic surgery i think it actually lowers their ranking so this idea that oh
02:46:11.240
okay she has giant fake titties i think she's worse looking i would agree with you so yeah uh i i
02:46:17.240
think it's just uh i guess your own assessment and then what you think men would rate you on average
02:46:22.520
okay now how about just your own assessment let's just do that an eight okay what about you seven
02:46:27.640
into the mic i like a number seven seven into the mic guys what i can't pick seven okay uh i can't pick
02:46:36.460
seven okay eight okay ivy i think if you're putting that standard i would say six sorry if you what
02:46:43.260
was if you're using that standard i would say i'll rate myself like a six what what other standard do
02:46:48.940
you know you said the standard where you're comparing yourself to other people in the media like if you
02:46:52.460
look at like jenny rose like what the heck i can't okay sure what about you still six okay yeah eight
02:47:00.940
six six point nine six point nine that's good i give myself a five andrew what about you
02:47:10.140
uh uh four probably four wow well once again andrew i am uh probably one of the i have the best
02:47:17.820
connections in the modeling industry i've gathered a remarkably attractive uh panel today so there is
02:47:25.100
yes the uh most beautiful women who exist on planet earth seem to always find themselves in their way
02:47:31.180
to the whatever podcast and we know this because we asked them so we know for sure yeah no tens though
02:47:37.500
so i mean that's could be worse a lot of eights but not tens i mean tens yeah you know what i mean
02:47:49.340
uh yeah okay uh well i honestly i don't really honestly unless somebody says nine or ten i don't really
02:47:56.460
feel like if they give themselves an eight it's not that bad right andrew like you know what i mean
02:48:03.260
and they said we can't pick seven like i'm not going to debate the the 10 the rating question if
02:48:08.140
they if unless it's like a nine or ten you know but maybe andrew's a little more uh less forgiving than i
02:48:15.420
am well i just am wondering uh very briefly do raise your hand if you agree with all the girls answers
02:48:23.980
if you agree yeah yeah if you agree with all the girl's assessments i heard six six is above average
02:48:36.140
on a scale of wait so andrew's question is just raise your hand if you like you agree with like all
02:48:43.020
the girls were spot on with their assessment oh you're why are you shaking your head who's wrong
02:48:47.900
who's wrong especially you said that six okay hang on hang on hang on hang on wait wait wait before
02:48:57.420
you say that raise your hand if the girls should have rated themselves higher if you think the girls
02:49:03.340
should have rated themselves higher oh yeah yeah raise your hand if you think the girls should have
02:49:10.780
rated themselves lower okay anyone else you okay so you chair chair two which ones should have rated
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themselves lower do i have to answer that god yes yes oh boy okay so can i start on a positive note
02:49:30.940
and then a negative i think that you're objectively an eight or a nine especially you have no you don't
02:49:35.100
look like you have any work done you rated yourself under a seven men i think would have a lot of men
02:49:40.060
watching this would rate you near the top of this panel so i think that you giving yourself a 6.9
02:49:45.180
was very humble but i think deep down too you know you're not a 6.9 i would have rated you lower than
02:49:52.140
an eight she's wearing a wig yeah she's wearing a wig what was that she's wearing a wig would you have
02:49:57.660
rated her a five or six i mean now uh for you we just got rated a five or six i mean uh what would
02:50:09.500
you rate her um i mean like a six i kind of i guess she rated herself an eight lower rated you a little
02:50:21.020
lower too but then didn't you raise your hand and say that you thought the girls should have rated
02:50:25.740
themselves higher there were some people that like i thought not yet hang on i'm sorry not you the um
02:50:31.980
the the gal i was just speaking to i'm sorry i didn't mean to cut actually for go everybody rated
02:50:35.660
themselves like the number they chose they should have rated themselves higher uh me yeah i didn't
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say every single one should have rated themselves higher i think it's not the one who rated you lower
02:50:46.780
right yeah i mean i'm not going to rate her lower just because she rated me lower i kind of forgot
02:50:52.940
everybody's like numbers but there is specific people that i would have like chose to rate themselves
02:50:57.580
higher okay which ones would you have chosen to rate themselves lower lower yeah no one
02:51:05.660
no one then how could you call the woman who gave herself an eight a six
02:51:13.820
i said six because i forgot she didn't choose six i thought that was the number she chose
02:51:17.980
oh okay strange all right that's all i had okay um i do actually you know what i want the panel to rate
02:51:29.420
me i will not be offended you can give me a zero i won't be upset will not be offended whatsoever don't
02:51:37.100
pull any punches be brutally honest i will not be upset i won't insult you back or anything like that
02:51:46.780
i'll take it on the chin go ahead is it just off a look just looks just looks i mean obviously my
02:51:52.060
personality is going to tank the rating so um yeah that's why yeah yeah i have to just i have to let
02:51:58.220
my looks carry me uh okay go ahead look me deep in the eyes when the eyes actually bring the number
02:52:07.580
up so look me deep in the eyes seven good okay look look into my soul when you say this go ahead so
02:52:15.340
you're like precisely my type except for the fact that you're not balding yet i have i have hair but
02:52:20.220
the facial like the facial hair and everything like the way that you have it that that is my type
02:52:23.660
i would give you an eight okay i'll take it seven point seven seven point seven
02:52:30.860
hands are shaking oh my she's a little nervous okay uh seven point seven okay all right go ahead
02:52:37.180
id oh just because i i don't really find like um white guys yeah no no no no no i just like i only
02:52:44.700
ever dated asian guys so that's why i don't have like i don't see people outside of like no you do any
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just to say oh yeah so i might be like a little bit lower maybe like six yeah sure
02:52:58.940
mary i have i i can't even say the only person i think of is my boyfriend period
02:53:10.060
okay that's fine alina do i know you have a boyfriend so what i pass on rating that's fine
02:53:14.780
uh wait hold on so i have a question wait wait one one question before yours inch one question before
02:53:20.460
yours going to you yeah uh you said you're an eight oh yeah and i'm a you said six you gave
02:53:28.860
me a six so just to be clear you would be you're settling for me what do you mean like you would
02:53:38.060
be settling like if we were to date like you're doing me a favor i just yeah you're dating you're
02:53:43.740
dating down right i mean i have settled i have settled for guys that like and have dated guys that
02:53:50.140
are like now what i would typically go for so i mean i'm not sitting i wouldn't send but i want you to
02:53:55.420
look me deep in my eyes i'm not i'm gonna look at the camera though look me look me deep in my eyes
02:54:01.500
from the side and say brian you fucking uggo i i would say i'm settling for you you
02:54:09.660
fucking mid say it that's so mean that is mean but you can say it conductively and then do that
02:54:18.540
i have very thick skin that's not appreciating content for a while um you have to you you should
02:54:26.220
see my my dms um like they're really mean oh yeah people tell me that like they want to murder
02:54:32.940
me that's so mean is it men is it men or women no i literally get death threats so a girl telling
02:54:38.220
me i'm mid is like the least of my worries you get death threats oh yeah what messages i get
02:54:43.180
death threats like every day okay men or women who do you get worse from uh mostly dudes but like
02:54:48.700
a lot of girls too oh okay go ahead i'm ready i'd fucking settle for you you'd say wait you would
02:54:58.860
fucking that would be like the words they asked for right oh i don't know i forgot what that
02:55:05.660
wow so would i have to wait one one last thing what so because you would be settling for me when
02:55:13.100
it comes to our looks like i'm just i'm way too mid for you do you think that i would have to really
02:55:19.260
make up for it like if i wanted to land you if i wanted to get you on a date and have some carnal
02:55:25.580
knowledge like i would have to like i would have to be really like i'd have to make up for it so
02:55:31.660
like really funny really good personality rich right like do i have to make up for it my lack
02:55:46.060
sorry am i understanding your question right are you asking if you would have to make up for it and
02:55:50.380
look wise for both looks and he looks worse he's saying if he looks worse than you objectively by
02:55:57.180
your standard you're an eight he's a six wouldn't he need to compensate for his lack of looks with some
02:56:02.220
other quality for you to like hypothetically if you were single to date me right so i would say no
02:56:11.100
that you wouldn't have to make up for a big time i would have to make up for a big time that you wouldn't
02:56:15.900
have to make up for a big time not big time but a little bit a little time not big time big time
02:56:23.180
big time little time what would you rate tom brady
02:56:32.380
what would you rate tom brady five just because he's not my type wait what do you prefer so you
02:56:37.020
would you would you would be settling for tom brady yeah yeah yeah makes sense would you uh is your
02:56:44.380
type white latino black do you have a latino okay plus so what's his name plaso pluma peso pluma would
02:56:53.580
you would you rate peso pluma is he your type yeah he's my type because he's like complected i he's
02:57:02.140
wait what what like light complected lights skins latino yeah and that's my type but i'd give him i
02:57:09.660
guess like a an eight okay so he's like you you league like same league like that's a that's a fair
02:57:20.540
matchup okay yeah you're so you're just as good looking as for a woman as he is for a man yeah
02:57:27.340
oh i'm trying to think of a hot what about who's that guy who joe rogan beefed with
02:57:36.620
carlos mencia would you who is that i should probably that's like beyond their time what carlos
02:57:43.580
mencia do you know who that is he's an ugly fucker though i don't know i'm just trying to think of
02:57:48.700
famous latino man okay how about this how about this who's in his prime antonio banderas do you
02:57:55.020
do you know who that is uh a bit i forgot how he looked like in his prime wait who's like a is
02:58:00.220
johnny depp bad bunny tino maluma i think he's white johnny depp is white okay how about this
02:58:08.940
how about an easier one yeah give us a famous actor who you think is who you're really attracted to who
02:58:15.820
you think is about equal and attractiveness to you that's a good question andrew give us a give us an
02:58:33.260
so i don't know i don't know his name exactly but i know like the band that he's a part of
02:58:38.140
and what's he yeah what's the 30 seconds to mars jared leto no i mean like a hispanic band
02:58:44.060
okay what's it called yeah we'll we'll find it what it's called eslabon e-s-l-a-b-o-n
02:58:53.660
e-s and what does he play what's his position he's a singer singer of it's just eslabon armado
02:59:01.340
eslabon i don't speak spanish bro help me out here eslabon eslabon pedro tovar yeah
02:59:15.340
okay pedro pedro tovar can you google image him
02:59:29.580
i mean why are we i don't know oh hey wait he's he's with peso pluma
02:59:49.660
well don't open the image just google images uh whatever his name is okay pedro tovar
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i mean he's not exactly a male model i mean those aren't really pictures of his
03:00:15.420
what i would specifically go for because those are old pictures but yeah that's him you just
03:00:20.140
really have a type i do have a yeah and i mean y'all can look at him and be like okay well he's
03:00:26.460
overweight but i mean i've dated guys that like have some stomach to him i mean he cannot be all
03:00:32.140
y'all's type and be like i'd rate that guy a five y'all can rate me all y'all's numbers that y'all
03:00:37.180
want but it's the level of type of confidence that i am it's not just going based off of looks that
03:00:42.380
i feel like i am but going based off my personality that i know of myself yeah but it's not the
03:00:52.860
it's about looks i know and i still stand at eight because i mean i know what i had to work on and
03:00:59.580
i mean become beautiful like naturally wait how about this well what do you have to work on losing
03:01:05.580
weight what what and then so i i would guess then that when you lose the weight i guess from your
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i don't know if it's like a weight issue right because i feel like you don't i didn't think it
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was about weight i don't think you don't look overweight at all oh thank you but no i i would like
03:01:32.220
like i think that's the why i would rate myself an eight because if it's a weight pop you can get
03:01:36.780
it like literally zapped out and you can just like look like a 10 tomorrow but when you lose weight
03:01:41.340
you lose weight in your face so like your face sorry i got fucking i'm yeah he's dying yeah
03:01:47.820
so i was overweight i was like almost 200 pounds and my face was like
03:01:52.380
completely different wait you used to be 200 pounds yeah yeah photo
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um when i was like 190 yeah yeah yeah but i don't have a lot of photos when i was like bigger
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high school can i ask a question features you have a nice nose yes ask a question who is a woman
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any anybody celebrity celebrity influencer or whoever that you would consider a 10 right now
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like anyone anyone that you would like who what woman do you consider a 10 it could be anybody
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megan fox bro yeah like her too so you're saying if you lost weight that you think you would be on
03:02:27.740
the same level as megan fox i don't think i'd be the same level but what you're rating you're saying
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if you lost weight you'd be a 10 because i'd be confident to be a 10 once i lost the weight so i
03:02:36.780
don't have to look the same as her i don't have well you wouldn't you wouldn't look the same as her
03:02:40.620
but your appraisal of attractiveness despite differences in in look obviously you would be as
03:02:47.100
attractive as her yeah because i mean it's about how i feel like nobody else can feel that same way
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but i mean it's the type of level of confidence that i'll have when i'm a 10 to be like okay i'm
03:02:57.020
just a pretty as her she can have blue eyes i can have brown eyes and i can view myself in a different
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type of way do you think you would be able to track the same kinds of man men that megan fox can
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yeah and i mean it's clear that you're not you're not seeing it you're not seeing it in your eyes and
03:03:17.260
it's pretty obvious but i'm not really looking for like the approval of anybody here to be like oh yeah
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i know i see what like or anybody that's viewing being like oh yeah i would view you the same way
03:03:27.260
that i would view like megan fox or whatever i'm just asking you personally like i know that doesn't
03:03:31.660
matter like i could go get a hundred thousand dollars of plastic surgery and i don't personally think
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that i would ever be on megan fox's level but you're saying that if you just lost a little bit
03:03:39.420
of weight you would be the same levels of attractiveness as her not that you would look
03:03:43.340
the same as her but that you would be objectively to the world and to yourself to the same level
03:03:48.140
that she is the same number as her i wouldn't look the same as her or be on the same level i
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understand what you're saying i'm just confused on like your your gauge that's all
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whoa this is a real debate i think it's just a number on like i'm not saying that you're that
03:04:03.100
you're not like dateable or you're not attractive i just don't think like i don't think anybody on
03:04:06.940
this panel including myself is on megan fox's level and i don't think anything that they could
03:04:10.940
really do would get them there no that's fine but you can do anything you can do anything with money
03:04:16.940
do you see lindsey lohan lindsey lohan yeah yeah yeah she changed she changed a lot like
03:04:23.420
probably surgery regenerative therapy is very very good now and then it's also it's it's an argument of
03:04:28.060
it's fake and it's a lie and megan fox i'm sure she's had a little bit of work done but i don't think that
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she's i don't think that she's changed her entire look or anything i mean we could we could also just
03:04:37.180
say like young megan fox when she was like 20 or something yeah she was a 10 then too we don't even
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have to say like current megan fox like how do you how do you compare to like prime megan fox
03:04:47.820
not you yeah i'm just insane doesn't she still looks like almost the same no no i don't see any
03:04:53.020
difference it's crazy you don't see any age well like obviously she's aged but i still see her as like
03:04:58.940
it's like a hot chick oh i think a lot of people would say she's still very attractive but i mean
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i don't think if you put them together i don't know is it because of her age like uh no it's well
03:05:10.620
i mean the age there's a physical manifestation of her age that like she doesn't look as good as
03:05:17.740
she did when she was younger before less makeup but lately so chair two so then chair two what are
03:05:23.420
the like if you if you were to say uh to the guy you were just talking to about this about the
03:05:30.060
objective beauty standard what are the things that you would say she would need to change to fit your
03:05:35.500
criteria of a 10. is that a question for me yeah that's for you oh okay what for her to be a 10
03:05:44.220
yeah she can't be a 10 no he asking what can she change like oh like you think that if she changed
03:05:51.020
something about her face she can't physically possibly be a 10 i think you do anything with
03:05:54.620
plastic surgery you can literally do anything yeah no i think that there's everybody here could do
03:06:00.220
something to enhance their appearance i i don't like i don't really think that anybody here is going to be
03:06:07.980
a 10 nine maybe a 10 is keep in mind a 10 is like basically unattainable the top 0.5 percent of the
03:06:14.860
world maybe maybe lower than that is a 10 so i don't think that there's anything anybody on this
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panel is going to do to be a 10 there you go uh okay we have sharon chair two and seven thank you for
03:06:26.220
being honest so tired of girls trying to protect girls that they just met feelings this is why men are
03:06:32.780
way more trustworthy than women sharing with the hundred uh that's chair two and then chairs seven
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i believe and then we have a message coming from michael jones thank you man michael jones donated
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two hundred dollars chair six is delusional megan fox is a ten this chick is an adjustable five six
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after losing weight based chair two brian you need to reel in these three hundred and fours also hey
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chair eight what's up michael dude you need you need a wink hey michael oh wow okay all right there it
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is thank you michael for the tts guys w's in the chat for michael jones mike jones are you going to drop
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some more lyrics from uh i don't know what song all right uh final thing on the rating thing do you think
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you'll be better looking in 10 years time you're 24 better looking at 34
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fuck yes okay better looking in 20 years time at 44 no okay you're 26 do you think you'll be better
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looking in 10 years time at 36 i think i'll be just really i think i'll be just taking my my dip
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from my peak like down yeah i don't think i'll be better looking at 36 i think i'll be on the
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on the downturn okay uh so not better looking at 46 no okay but you'll be you think you'll be a bit
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more attractive than you are now or at 30 probably okay uh you're 33 better looking in 10 years time
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at 43 43 oh i'm gonna enjoy my you know age the moment i believe that i'm fine
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so uh better looking at 43 a better looking a better looking to be honest can i guarantee but i
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will try to you know keep this looking yeah so just a yes yes or no yes yes okay 20 years time 53
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53 53 yeah uh 53 i'm not gonna you know like but uh i'm not no better looking no okay and then
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going back 10 years time were you better looking at 23 than you are now at 33 oh i love me looking
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right now 23 okay so better looking now 33 uh ivy you're 23 better looking in 10 years time 33 oh
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i'm 24 but yes um i think at 34 yeah i think i will be better looking at 34 okay and then 10 years
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uh 20 years time excuse me 24 to 44 do you think you'll be better looking uh no i don't think so
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okay so 34 but okay all right and then bailey you're 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33 yes 20 years
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time 43 no okay uh you're 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34 no okay you're 23 better looking
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in 10 years time at 33 no okay alina you're 20 better looking at 30 better probably not okay all
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right there it is do we have the age and gender swaps just age for now okay keep an eye out if there's
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any other batches or the gender swap all right guys we've age advanced you is it ready to go yeah okay
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we've aged advanced all of you i know some of you said no some of you said yes but let's take a look
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oh my god wow wow why do i look so old that's so hot you're cute you're eating hot it was in the
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beginning it was i wasn't even posing okay you're cute you look fine in the first one okay uh all right
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next whoa oh you know what you look like that lady who smokes at like a
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let me hear the hold on you gotta hear the rest at like not like a premiere casino but like a casino
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in reno oh that's hilarious like that's where i would see you my mom my mom is in her trailer park
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grandma trailer park i know i know i do but i think i look just like my mother my mother's had like no
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work done or anything and she's objectively incredibly attractive for her age so i think if i age like her
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i'll be all right to your credit the tits still look great oh yeah no aging there do you know my
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fiancee wanted me to get fake ones it was like a sticking point in our relationship he wanted me to
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get a bbl he wanted me to go he told me i didn't have any boobs he wanted me to get a bbl and giant
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fake tits wow this is a fake no they're real wow wow period oh my god i'm still rockstar
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i like that i like that all right next that's quite cute actually i like oh i can't i don't
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think i can age well you don't look like you age much in the middle one though you look like just
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a little bit but you know there's no way that's 31 34 there's no way that ai was the
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next oh that's cute that's cute oh what's this doll oh my god next oh okay okay abuelita
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next oh oh that's crazy wow it's for fun enjoy it while it lasts yeah i love this
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what the fuck oh that's funny oh yeah where's yours yeah where's yours thank you that's funny
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one uh let's see oh that's pretty not bad that's really nice that's really nice
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andrew fucking gandalf over here that looks exactly like my father oh oh really what the heck
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looks like his dad okay what about you i mean like spitting image of my old man next
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bro yo you guys fucking at least your eyes are so blue so do we have gender swap
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holy fuck bro i gotta lose some weight okay um you got this uh okay well let's keep keep an eye
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out on it though damien in case we get gender swap or another badge uh we have oh no he needs
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donated two that's funny i like that right don't don't don't don't don't do that don't do that oh
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just happen to be blind i think he was referencing the oh the yeah yeah yeah sweet uh let's see here uh
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okay that's it for the rating thing uh we're just gonna get into the uh actually no we have a react i've
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been wanting to react to this since december we're finally gonna do it i think we have enough time to
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do it uh so damien pull up the tick tock yeah uh you might have to adjust the volume a little bit
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we're gonna be reacting to this video some of you might have seen it was this viral video
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uh a woman was broken up with go ahead and pull it up we're gonna get uh started from the beginning
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we have audio too imagine you live in la with your boyfriend and everything's going amazing
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till he says babe i want to move back to texas to be closer to my dad so you give up half of your
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career quit your improv troop and have a goodbye party take off months of work deplete your savings
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to pay for movers and drive to texas so worth it for the love of your life that wants a future with
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you because he said so so you spent a month waiting for your shit to arrive and then another month of
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moving in and building furniture and stuff and you're so happy till he comes back from a family
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vacation he sits on your couch which just turned into the mail and hits you unknown it says we have
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nothing in common we're incompatible oh no hi how did i have known this this whole time during the happy
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years of happiness we've been incompatible this whole time and that we had nothing in common
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for three and a half years how did i not notice well what a surprise thank you for informing me that
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this whole time we had nothing in common so you back up your girl who are reconfitted just gonna get
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crying to her so we have to bag it for you and then you drive to florida to live with your mom
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mom all right um so this went viral uh and so basically she was dating this guy for what three
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and a half years they move he breaks up with her we don't know the exact timeline shortly thereafter
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maybe a month couple months after the move uh your reaction starting with you oh well sorry that she
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went through that if you end up watching this i'm sorry but like it was like there's no communication
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you know because i feel like if you're communicating constantly with your partner um you'd be able to
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know whether or not like they're into the relationship or they're like taking a step back so i just feel
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like okay yeah your take if i just lived that i was moving to another country halfway across like all
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the way across the world so uh i think that was a little bit over dramatic like it doesn't even seem like
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she gave up her her job or anything it sucks like that's always gonna suck but i would never want to
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be with somebody who didn't want me or didn't see so it's it completely sucks but you pick yourself up
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make a little joke out of it and you move on it's traumatic but that makes us who we are so okay yeah
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what about you yeah it is what it is just you know god saved her from you know somebody else i think
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it's a good chance for her moving another chapter start another chapter what about you oh i i felt like that
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was really that was really traumatizing i think i went through a similar experience and so i think
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i can understand that it was wait it's traumatizing yeah it's traumatizing okay what happened to her
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like it was traumatizing i think that she like gave up her whole life for this guy that said that he
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loved her and then yeah i think that it still happens when you know it's i think they were
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communicating i think honestly he just probably found someone better and was like oh there's like
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options out there for me he didn't realize there was well we don't know that she didn't say anything
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about that and he went on a family vacation like he left her for a bit comes back like i want to
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break up like what yeah maybe he talked to his parents and the parents were like yeah this is not
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the girl but um okay what about you bailey what do you think is he a bad guy what do you think i think
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um i think everything happens for a reason and i think that there's someone better out there
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for which for her okay but like is he a dick breaking up with her after the moon like what
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i mean you ultimately can't control what your partner does so i think that she um just needs
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to move on like yes it's gonna hurt but she's gonna be able to find someone who values her and
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everything so i say that sucks because i moved all the way to new jersey for a guy and he broke up with
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me and um we had to move back to texas while we were broken up in the plane so i kind of get what
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she's feeling so she's had to pick herself up he's in therapy and she'll get better okay i mean they were
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incompatible so it's unfortunate alina your thoughts i mean there's definitely more to the
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story than we're seeing my question is why are you posting on social media about a three-year
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relationship breakup that seems like too much um private information out there that um might
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reflect some things that she did in the relationship that made him break up with her
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it's pretty pretty base take um she did i mean she like blocked his face but like total strangers
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won't know who it is but like they obviously probably had like shared friend shared social circle
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kind of putting them on blast like that kind of it really quick before i give my take though pull up
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the comments i think this is like what i thought you know you can criticize the video or whatever but
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like some of these comments are crazy so uh make it a little bigger for me
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sending him generational curses from africa scroll down you gave him wife privilege is without being
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the wife okay whatever that means sending him stress from the engineering world sending so they're
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literally cursing the guy sending him sleepless nights of regret from germany uh he tried to so they
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want they want the guy to suffer it's yeah he tried to dump you politely when he said he wanted to
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move whatever uh do not do anything for men until he puts a ring on your finger oh that's a whole nother
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that's a whole nother conversation we could get into but scroll down a bit he gave you okay whatever
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uh if you're so hurt why do you film yourself and upload it on the internet michael jones i'll get your
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tts in just a sec here uh this whole production makes you queen he owes you financial compensation
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wrong um scroll down um imagine doolingo hold on
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sending him black magic from kolkata india sending him an eternity of chapped lips scroll down i'll do
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a couple more i see balding in this future wow hit the plus scroll down sending him generational
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curses from africa wait guys guys please don't talk while somebody else is talking scroll down uh or he
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owes you financial competition oh did it just duplicate it he cheated blah blah blah okay go
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to the tick tock i want to see the comments on tick tock there's a few more uh so you can criticize
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like what she did but like these comments going after him are kind of crazy imagine he has to read
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it huh that's fine it's fine uh make it bigger though so i can read the comments
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also the internet's bigger they probably found his bigger bigger bigger stuff scroll scroll up let me
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start it from up up up uh okay boyfriends aren't husbands blah blah blah uh he made you move then
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handed you a note i thought okay thank you for uh uh scroll down never let them take you to a second
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location okay that's weird uh it seems like the instagram ones were worse uh oh can't you 80 000
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likes can't you sue him for something and then uh let's see if there's anything take amanda there
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with the verified check take him to court sending them send him the moving costs and furniture to pay
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if he doesn't sue him and claim he used you so the i don't know if these women are joking or they
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genuinely think that there's actually some sort of like legal avenue that she can take here which
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i think is completely ridiculous isn't there palimony like no that's not i mean in canada it's
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fucking oh it's canada canada has some weird cuck shit like that but scroll down hire an attorney i
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did and my ex had to pay that's but totally bogus um maybe in a marriage there's i mean not whatever
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uh so multiple people saying sue him get money ask for money scroll down scroll down
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the uh let me see if there's any more that are interesting scroll down scroll down scroll down
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deserves to go viral uh let that man okay uh anyways so there's like different comments there's
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some comments about money there's some comments like fuck this guy we're we hope he
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gets cursed and that's kind of weird hoping but brian he was on a journey and all he was doing was
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finding himself for self-discovery and then he came home and he told her that he didn't want her
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anymore because they weren't compatible and she freaked out i don't really understand because all
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he really needs is therapy and then he'll find himself okay can we make that go viral too that's
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not a little auto tune maybe a little auto tune in there the interesting thing for me here is at
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least with the comments right before i get into like my reaction to her video the people that are
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calling for her to sue him first off i'm not a i'm not an attorney but there's no i mean look maybe
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some attorneys in the chat can clarify do we have any andrew maybe you have attorneys in your chat
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there's attorneys in our chat there's no legal cause of action you can't do anything there's no
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legal cause of action where you could like oh you spent money on your boyfriend your boyfriend breaks
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up with you he owes you money no absent absent him like you loaning him money in her case for example
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you actually would have a legal claim i don't know the laws in korea though but uh if you spend money on
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somebody in this sort of way that's essentially a relationship you cannot recuperate the spent
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invested money on them in addition to that i think it's really interesting because most of those women
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80 000 it was like 80 000 likes oh you he should be financially responsible you should sue him
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how would women feel if we took y'all on a date and paid for the date and you didn't
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fuck us and we're like oh give me my money back you guys would be like what the fuck no that's crazy
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to even think like that so the same goes for women though just because you invest in us we don't owe
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you like in the same way you don't owe us anything in the same way that women if we take you to dinner
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you don't you don't owe the guy sex i don't i don't think that if you if a guy takes you out he
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pays the bill you don't owe him sex if a guy takes you out for a first date you don't you don't owe him
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a second date you don't owe him you don't know him anything what the point someone in my chat
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points out what about common law marriage i think they were in california i don't think there's
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cohabitation well some states i think you only have to cohabitate for a few months before it applies to
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you well so i don't know the specifics of that but you are right that there is a there is a common
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law marriage where the even though you're not actually married if you've been holding yourself
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i think it's if you there's like cohabitation but you also there's there's other prongs
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to falling in the snare of common law marriage it's not necessarily just cohabitation i think you
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also have to be holding i could be wrong again i'm not a lawyer it's not and it's it's state-specific
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too and i believe they were in california right i don't know i think you have to also be holding
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yourself out as if you were married to i think that is one component of it but nevertheless if
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you're cohabitating in a common law state you might get ensnared neither neither state has it though
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california does not recognize common law marriage yeah so and nexus nexus also there has to be certain
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even relations so even then though when it comes to her out-of-pocket expenses moving
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she wouldn't that wouldn't even be a claim to like recoup her actual expenses she could attempt
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to make a claim for uh under the state's law if there is common law marriage for alimony
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but they were together for only three and a half years the alimony would
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if it was even granted would be for a very short period of time most states i think you have to be
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married beyond for a certain length seven years well it depends on the state but you have to be married
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for a certain period of time before you can get alimony and the length of the marriage would
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determine how long the alimony payment uh is being made in any case she can't recuperate the money for
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the cost of the move this sort of thing but it's really interesting that all these women saying this
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would like laugh in a dude's face if as a guy you take a girl out on a date and she's not interested
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and you're like oh can you just venmo me the 20 bucks that i spent on you for the burgers or whatever
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so like i think that's really interesting that component and then i think the other component is um
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is uh what is it oh i don't think it's interesting like y'all women you'll you'll if you're not into a
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guy like it's done yeah and like if you'd probably clown on a dude if he was kind of upset oh like i took
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you on a date oh we've been dating for a month oh we've been dating for three months oh we've been
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dating for a year it's like if he's all butthurt about the breakup like he can obviously be upset
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but if he's gonna like go and make some video or get all bent out of shape over the breakup
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you're not most women are not gonna be pleased with that sort of situation but it's weird to me
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like why do you and look i know it's not all women but why do y'all feel so entitled to a
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relationship because and i'll paint it like this in the same way that women are not vending machines
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that you put niceness tokens into or date tokens into and it pops out sex women are not sex vending
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machines men are not relationship vending machines so regardless of the investment that you've put into
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us we don't owe you any sort of continuity i don't care if we've been dating four years if i've made a
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determination that i don't want to date you you're gone and i don't owe you anything in the same way
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that if you wanted to dump me for any reason or no reason at all you would do it and you don't owe me
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anything so i don't think just because you've been in a relationship for three three years and that she
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made this move and she totally exaggerated like okay she took off months of work to move
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it doesn't take what about her her improv true her improv true and she she only gave up andrew half
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of her music career only she said she gave up half of it whatever the fuck that means i don't know what
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about what about her improv troupe though brian you seem to be forgetting these strong bonds that
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happen inside of improv troops very strong life altering life-changing bonds that last forever
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and ever from your improv troupe yeah but i i think uh i don't know it's to me because and i got i
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actually i know i could never leave my improv troupe brian it's hard you i actually used to do improv
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when i was like 19. i thought theater was a red flag i am a red flag so anyways um but uh
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no it's uh well you used to used to yeah i gave it up no longer have the red flag could you imagine if
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that video was to the flip side and it was her like with a little tune like and then i packed up and then
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i left him because whatever i didn't like what color socks he was wearing on tuesday the internet and
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the comments would be like hell yeah you go girl boss babe like the comments would be so different
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if the video was her leaving him instead of him breaking up with her when she got there yeah and
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also if he would have made that video the whole internet this is so wrong and the view to make
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this video of her like how dare you put her on the internet even though you blurred her face like
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if the shoe was on the other foot it would be so different yeah it would be like oh he's kind of
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like whoa he's really intense like yeah she won look tough tough buddy she wanted to break up with
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you like that it's a really good point and it's the point i'm trying to make like imagine a guy's like
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man i i i took her out on three dates and she didn't give me pussy they'd be like so like a girl doesn't
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owe you sex because you took her on three dates a guy just because you put some sort some degree of
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investment into the guy doesn't mean he owes you continuity in the relationship i think uh the
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big thing though is like look the criticism here is like why did he do this after the move maybe he
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could have dumped her before but we don't know like maybe he was all in on the move and wanted to keep
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seeing her i think people reserve the right to end a relationship at any time and so maybe he made
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the determination after the move maybe he saw like hmm living with her in one location where
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she's comfortable she's cool but like she's a fucking head case when we're actually stressed out
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and have to do a move i don't want to deal with a girl like that who knows post move and then he ends
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it but we don't look we don't know if that's actually the case but what is interesting is there is
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look people could say look he should have broken up with her before but if like he only came to the
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determination let's say he only came to the determination that he was over the relationship
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after the move how can you fault him for ending like what is he supposed to do hmm i guess i'll
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keep her for three months and then i'll dump her what's he supposed to do also like you don't know
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like anybody there's there's missing context like clearly i mean i do think it's weird that he wrote
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her a note after three years like that's pretty weird like maybe this guy exuberated some red flags
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before that happened you should i don't think you've been dating for three years and you live
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together you're you pass them a note like it's first grade like do you like me check yes or no
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demonstrates so he just doesn't know how to communicate so he just writes it on a letter
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but that being said if he didn't know how to communicate like i knew that my ex didn't know
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how to communicate prior to me moving to australia and i just accepted that i either accept that he
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can't communicate or i'm out and i accepted that he can't communicate she must have known but three
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years in prior to moving that this guy is a little goofy in his communication skills so you could tell
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that she was all for him she literally started building furniture for him like she was all in
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and maybe she was like oblivious to the little signs that he was like giving that he's not in it
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because she really wanted it and then she got the note who's to say he wasn't in he wasn't yeah he
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was so i mean he could have met somebody all assumptions he could have met somebody that he deemed a
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better option he could have she could have done said the wrong thing on the wrong day and it was
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just again like that straw that broke the camel's back anything could happen but because it's from
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her point of view and her perspective there's missing context in that video it's that video and little
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tune was made just to like shame him for breaking up with her yeah also if that guy if anybody if anybody
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knows who he knows who he is i want him on the show i'll fly you out a little vacation from texas
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yes to santa bar i will fly you out because the internet dragged this guy i want his side
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of the story right i will fly you out i'll cover your expenses we'll have him on the show yeah because
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she painted like such a nasty narrative especially like making it with the tune she's like i i obviously
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i don't know if she knew like how the algorithm algorithm works but like you know like that's how
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you get people to like you like this to be funny and witty and you know painting that narrative is
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like fucked up i think crying funny and witty part though well her emojis um her uh the emojis in the
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song like that that was her way that was her comedy or her um her way of being funny and dealing that
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song sucked didn't it it was terrible it was some like artsy hipster you know thrown together
03:33:47.740
kind of thing i i also think that women that cry on the internet i think that women's tears are only
03:33:53.020
truly like true honest to god tears when they're by themselves if you can cry into a camera i don't
03:33:58.540
find it to be like very legit yeah it's like oh my god it's like let me yeah it's like
03:34:04.780
and then they put the phone down and they're like all right what are we going for dinner it's so like
03:34:08.860
it's women's tears are only real when they're by themselves like into their pillow having like a real
03:34:14.780
actual meltdown that's you know and you don't call anyone you don't call your best friend you
03:34:17.660
don't call your mom you have your little emotional meltdown and cry in your bed alone if if you're
03:34:21.660
posting on the internet it's they're fake tears or yeah it's just i don't know can you uh damien can
03:34:27.260
you google wait i'm gonna send it to you there's a beautiful socrates quote go ahead pull that up uh
03:34:34.300
there's a socrates quote i wonder if there's an image search for it uh go to the image search
03:34:40.940
show show me the image search for this oh my god there's wait that's funny tab over just go ahead
03:34:49.100
tab over that's funny there's actually a fucking clip from look at the tiktok clip the fourth one
03:34:57.100
over that's from my that's hey that's a ryan terriban um that's funny that's from my podcast uh click on
03:35:03.580
the first one by wait what oh next one over my bad trust not a woman when she weeps for it is her
03:35:16.380
nature to weep when she wants her will whoa that's really a little bit of toxic masculinity from socrates
03:35:25.420
going around the table do you uh you agree with this you disagree honestly i need to read the
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the the pull it up i'll get the tts's in just a sec guys i apologize for the delay trust not a woman
03:35:41.580
when she weeps for it is her nature to weep when she wants her will um yeah i mean i i do see
03:35:50.860
a lot of like philosophy um you know ideas and i do believe in a lot of them so like when i see this
03:35:58.300
i i see it as like a possible like a possibility to like yeah like be true you know especially just
03:36:03.900
like knowing um like me being a woman i could definitely find myself like you know doing something
03:36:11.100
like attention well brian didn't even give you the good one you see the one of the um students of of
03:36:20.460
socrates to plato and then from plato to aristotle aristotle said wherefore women are more compassionate
03:36:26.380
and more ready to weep more jealous and quarrelsome more fond of railing and more contentious
03:36:32.540
the female is also more subject to depression of spirits and despair than the male she's also
03:36:37.340
shameless and false more readily deceived and more mindful of energy or of injury more watchful more
03:36:43.180
idle and on the whole less excitable than the male on the contrary the male is more ready to help
03:36:47.180
and uh as it has been said more brave than the female and even uh in the malaysia if the sepia is
03:36:55.900
struck with the trident the male comes to help the female but the female makes her escape if the male is
03:37:00.940
struck so just saying the philosophers of old did not seem to have well i mean they had a high opinion
03:37:09.500
of women i guess but they seem to understand the nature pretty well didn't they i just think that
03:37:15.180
overall like obviously these philosophers like they're all male but the one that you reference
03:37:20.380
i like that he mentioned that women are more compassionate because generally women are more
03:37:23.660
compassionate than men so we tend to feel a lot more thing yeah yeah you understand he's not saying
03:37:28.380
that he's saying that you're a slave to passion like he's saying that we're a slave to passion like
03:37:33.020
we have like no emotional agility that we can't control our emotions oh compassion in and of itself
03:37:38.300
um he's he's making a reference here wherefore women are more compassionate and more ready to weep
03:37:45.900
more jealous more quarrelsome right he's saying actually that they're a slave to their passion
03:37:51.260
in this case that their compassion is often misplaced because it's a part of their nature right
03:37:57.420
i think that you do that's what he's saying you do see that comment a lot towards girls like oh
03:38:02.140
you're being too emotional right now or like oh you can't control your emotions and that's not usually
03:38:06.460
towards guys i do see that a lot more i literally said it to my sister last night because she was
03:38:10.780
crying but it's like she cried because she didn't know how to express herself so i don't know some
03:38:15.980
women they feel helpless that they actually can't do anything and so their only other alternative is to
03:38:20.780
cry not and i guess it kind of does play into socrates where he's like a woman cried to like get their
03:38:25.740
way and i could see that as well i think that it's like they don't see any other action that they
03:38:31.020
could take in that moment than to just cry and it's just like a way for them to relieve like
03:38:36.060
stress or built up tension within um and also women i think that you know we feel like it's a
03:38:41.740
lot easier to cry i have not seen that many guys cry in my life and it's like an asian saying like
03:38:47.260
guys only cry three times in their life it's like when they're born when their dad dies and when
03:38:52.140
i don't know their grandma mom i forgot you know the saying right yeah can i ask like would you guys
03:38:58.060
feel as if like um like you know most definitely not the saying isn't that the saying no that is
03:39:04.620
most definitely not the same yeah it's the same no she knows it it's in korean yeah yeah but that's
03:39:11.500
not the three times they cry though oh sorry yeah yeah that i think i did it wrong i think i did it
03:39:15.820
wrong it was like when they're born when someone dies and then for the last one when they went to
03:39:20.300
the military i think it was i think guys mostly view crying as a sort of manipulative thing or i guess
03:39:27.420
most guys because i can say all guys as a manipulative thing of girls to do to just get
03:39:32.620
their way but i think most girls are emotional don't really know how to control their emotions
03:39:40.700
or they're just super emotional and just end up crying because they're hurt not necessarily for
03:39:45.660
wanting to like get their way or wanting to like manipulate their way in their situation
03:39:49.980
because it's only sorry i have to kind of give you a firm disagreement here so i think um i think
03:39:57.100
women don't have much in the way of recourse except two ways vicious slander or through manipulation and
03:40:04.300
here's why i think this so men always have an option women don't which is force women don't even
03:40:10.060
really have a force option against other women right it's not really something they did now it has
03:40:15.180
become more prominent now that women fight or are willing to go fisticuffs with each other but it's
03:40:20.540
still not nearly as common as it is with men and uh on top of that they can't do that with men so what
03:40:27.420
they do instead is their kind of ways of fighting back are either through emotional machinations or
03:40:35.340
through the idea of slander right those are kind of the two pathways that they have because what else do
03:40:40.700
they have so if bob is giving me a bunch of trouble i can punch bob in the mouth and that's totally
03:40:46.780
socially acceptable i can't punch linda in the mouth that's totally not socially acceptable on the other
03:40:53.100
hand if linda punches me in the mouth that's laughable right it's just like uh okay well what did you
03:40:59.820
accomplish here um did you know perhaps you hurt your hand right so the thing is is like they don't really
03:41:06.620
have much but two options and so i think that that's uh i i do think it's a form of manipulation
03:41:12.780
now you could argue that that manipulation is necessary because that's what's at their disposal
03:41:17.100
but i do think it's manipulation for sure i think it's the only defense mechanism that women really
03:41:21.900
have besides what you just said like going on a on a smear campaign just like a skunk gets scared
03:41:27.260
and sprays or a porcupine gets scared and puts their their spikes up women's only real defense
03:41:32.060
mechanism is crying like that's all they can do i wouldn't agree with that because i i would say
03:41:38.700
we could as you know women kind of put in the work and control our emotions and maybe come from a place
03:41:45.900
with logic and conversation you know and not just quiet cry and i get it like but a man who's decided
03:41:51.260
to break up with you that guy that like that video that's how this conversation all started that
03:41:55.180
video of that girl crying there besides her smear campaign and her tears there's nothing that she
03:41:59.580
can do to that guy she could leave he left her that's why she made the video and she was upset
03:42:03.980
he he gave her to tear one's point i don't think she's wrong i think that women are capable of logical
03:42:09.820
discourse and reason everything else i don't think they're incapable of this at all uh i just think
03:42:15.580
that ultimately what backs it with men if if men have like a logical dispute or a reason dispute or
03:42:23.100
something like this we ultimately have something that we can defer to for stalker yes okay i we both
03:42:29.340
think we're right uh so one of us can always just beat the shit out of the other right so we can
03:42:35.340
decide it that way we have a threshold breaker completely that doesn't exist that doesn't exist
03:42:39.660
for women i also think a lot of times just like simply isn't there so so chair one like what do you
03:42:45.340
do to get revenge right i know what men do to get revenge oftentimes like if i ever see that guy again
03:42:50.860
i'm gonna punch him right in the mouth and then they do it right they actually do it women don't really
03:42:55.340
have that available to them so what they do is they run slander campaigns or emotional manipulation
03:43:01.420
like what are the choices available to them they could not to get revenge at all take accountability
03:43:07.340
i agree with that i'm just saying that if if they were to want to for whatever reason that would be
03:43:13.980
the the option available to them yeah yeah yeah or there's the option of walking away evolving
03:43:19.580
becoming the absolute best version of yourself i mean they might never they might never care but
03:43:23.820
there is like if there was all these issues in the relationship and you step away from their
03:43:27.420
from a relationship or from whatever the dispute is and you fix it and you work on yourself and you
03:43:31.980
become a better person at some point i i do believe in the theory that like they always come back i
03:43:37.740
mean and they it might not always be a good thing and they might not always come back in the capacity
03:43:41.020
that you want them back in but women i mean women do possess the ability to take well here let's well
03:43:49.580
let's try it this way okay just uh just quick show of hands do you think that women plot and scheme
03:43:57.580
more than men do by a show of hands oh yeah we just women we'd rather do that a lot of women definitely
03:44:05.580
so definitely women plot and scheme uh more than men do so let me um let me ask you this think about
03:44:13.340
this from a man's perspective women often uh don't don't think of it from our perspective but
03:44:18.220
universally from theirs and why wouldn't they right they're not men they're women so they're going to
03:44:23.180
think of things from their from their perspective it's hard to actually put yourself in the other seat
03:44:27.660
but when women say like men are emotionally closed off they're emotionally closed off they don't want
03:44:33.420
to talk they don't want to talk about their feelings they don't want to talk about things like this
03:44:37.180
did you guys ever think that because if they do it actually gives you ammunition
03:44:42.380
so if they tell you their deepest darkest fears or they tell you or they become vulnerable with you
03:44:46.860
about anything which is emotional since they know that you scheme and plot as a way to either defend
03:44:54.460
yourself or hurt other people whereas they would just like punch them in the mouth right uh by them
03:45:00.620
actually being vulnerable to you that that lays open the trap for your scheming and plotting so in in many
03:45:08.060
ways wouldn't that be a great defense mechanism like wouldn't you actually give men advice don't
03:45:13.580
tell women very much because they scheme and plot and will do bad things to you with the information
03:45:20.780
if they get upset right like that makes sense from a man's perspective well yeah because like society
03:45:25.100
makes it to wherever man cries immediately he's weak immediately he you know is like less of a man because
03:45:31.340
he can't control his emotions and then naturally like because i i have done this like years ago to
03:45:39.020
uh to my first relationship where uh he was vulnerable with me and i do remember mention
03:45:43.900
mentioning to him like when i was crying i was like well when you were crying when you cried i was there for
03:45:48.300
you you know so that's like that i was kind of like using his vulnerability as a way for him to
03:45:53.900
like be there for me and um like so it was a it was a bit of plotting and scheming and manipulation
03:46:00.300
right yeah 100 so this is so this is the case right it's like so in many ways probably the best
03:46:06.380
advice to give men is to not open up to women just open up to the right one the right one and so so
03:46:13.180
well wait it gets worse it gets worse what if it's the case that the reason women are always complaining
03:46:18.860
that men don't open up and aren't vulnerable to them is because what they really mean is this
03:46:24.460
fucking guy isn't giving me ammunition to hurt him with in some cases i would agree that probably
03:46:30.300
maybe most cases i have no idea actually but um like i feel like like when you think about it so
03:46:34.940
you think about it from the man's mind he's like wait a second now that we know they scheme and plot
03:46:38.620
more and they're going to use what i say is emotional ammunition and they get upset if i don't
03:46:44.700
emotionally become vulnerable for them if you put that together in the man's logical brain doesn't
03:46:49.420
he think to himself wait a second this chick just wants me to be emotionally vulnerable and give her
03:46:53.260
my darkest secrets so that she can hurt me with them if she wants to because what other recourse does
03:46:57.660
she have yeah i would say that means you just got to get to know the person that you know you're
03:47:01.660
investing yourself with to like understand their mindset and where they would come from or how they
03:47:05.660
would treat you and trust that they wouldn't do that to you michael jones donated two hundred dollars
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sorry in fact that um i don't know how to make it up to you pick something because i apologize for
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you so great to see you again wink for uncle oj yes chair four why are you talking like that weren't you
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born and raised in the u.s chair one we all know that sweaty rave slit stank wait wait what was it
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was uh you need to donate more and let me know what does sweaty rave slit stink mean oh okay yeah
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what what happened were you born in the united states yeah i have an american passport what the
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heck yeah i was born in modern what was your first language uh first my first language was um
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cantonese okay that's why it's like a little twangy all right we have this um uh you can yeah
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he needs donated two hundred dollars i am a god enjoy andrew's beautiful song
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um i think it's fine play it don't show it just play it
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brian he was on a journey and all he was doing was finding himself for self-discovery and then he
03:48:55.660
came home and he told her that he didn't want it anymore because they weren't compatible she freaked
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out i don't really understand what we're going to do we're just talking about what the heck
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thank you very much thank you uh wow that was be andrew do you want to say anything about that i don't
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know it was a it was a brilliant masterpiece yeah i'm sure it'll go viral um and uh you know we'll
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catch there we'll catch all the right algorithms i did want to just quickly uh let me finish this
03:49:24.460
conversation very quickly just one sec v donated 200 does anyone feel a family member wrote the note
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and agreed no one should give with strings attached hey v thank you very much i do appreciate that yeah i
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i i mean feel a family member wrote the note like his mom his mom his yeah i don't know um i do
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sorry guys i i'm the one who controls all like the tts is coming through i was i stepped away for about
03:49:53.180
10 minutes so some of these came in a little you know 10 minutes ago 10 15 so i apologize for that uh
03:49:59.580
go ahead andrew yeah yeah no problem um so i just wanted to just briefly kind of wrap this up with
03:50:06.460
uh have any of you ever been with a person who like switched on a dime they changed on a dime
03:50:14.460
and suddenly you found yourself having to defend yourself from like vicious allegations or rumor
03:50:21.020
mongering or things like that or even had a close friend by a raise of hands who's done that to you
03:50:28.380
only two of you have ever had a friend of yours or a person you were with
03:50:32.460
ever change very quickly or rapidly oh oh you're talking about like a partner like someone you're
03:50:37.660
dating oh okay yeah of course i think that over a relationship you should yeah it's pretty common
03:50:43.580
pretty common i would say right so if that's the case for you should men would probably think that
03:50:49.180
that would be the case for them too so again why would they be vulnerable but i think men yeah i didn't
03:50:55.740
mean to cut you off i think men do the same thing to women men like to men are fixers so if you complain
03:51:00.460
about something they'll try to fix it for you but they also kind of store that complaint in the back
03:51:04.300
of their mind and they start using anything that you say to like psychoanalyze you and a lot of times
03:51:09.820
try to convince you like why you're messed up and like why they can like fix you men take this the
03:51:16.620
same thing that you're saying women do to men men do to women and they like in my opinion
03:51:21.100
it's what what i don't know wait what about women you're talking about women when women are
03:51:27.820
vulnerable about women bitching about problems no no like literally anything like if women are
03:51:31.820
vulnerable about something that's happened to them like for example if a woman's parents got
03:51:36.620
divorced let's say or something like that and she says like oh like i you're married or whatever and
03:51:42.380
she's like i'm insecure in the marriage about this like because my parents got divorced that guy will
03:51:46.460
take that and he will use that to the end of the earth it doesn't matter what you say he'll be like
03:51:50.540
that's because your parents got divorced and now you're messed up like guys do the same thing to
03:51:55.100
women they take something that you've said and you were vulnerable about and they like twist it for their
03:52:00.060
their own like evil maniacal good in the relationship or to justify something completely unrelated they
03:52:06.620
store that away in the back of their head and they use it against you too like men also why did you
03:52:11.180
say earlier that you think that women are more manipulative and have more nefarious machinations
03:52:17.100
when it when it comes to these manipulations than men i think the difference i think that women will
03:52:22.460
after a relationship they will do more of a smear campaign they'll they'll do more of like the
03:52:26.780
getting with their friends or mutual mutual friends mutual partners and doing like the oh well here's
03:52:32.140
you know he did this and he did that and he sucks because of this and he sucks because of that
03:52:35.740
i don't think men really go to their friends after a relationship or after something bad
03:52:40.140
has happened and do that to the woman they do it or like do it behind her back they do it directly to
03:52:45.660
her so i think that men are more like kind of calculating in the relationship to make vulnerable
03:52:53.980
things a woman has said fit the narrative women don't usually use it against him like to his face
03:52:59.820
they take it and they do a smear campaign with it after like okay behind their back which is worse
03:53:04.380
so men are talking to them about the actual problem and saying here's why the problem may exist which
03:53:09.740
makes sense and women will go behind the back of the man in order to smear them doesn't that way
03:53:16.940
worse yes yeah so then when you're talking about this i would put this in the category of bitching
03:53:22.860
right so it works like this men do to each other they gripe to each other occasionally but if there's
03:53:27.740
too much griping we look over the other guy and we say hey shut the up i don't want to hear your
03:53:32.220
bitching anymore shut up i don't want to hear it be quiet go away right this kind of thing and then we
03:53:37.180
make fun of them and clown on them and and then what that does is it prevents them in the future
03:53:42.780
from bitching anymore right because they know that there's going to be a bunch of negative feedback
03:53:47.020
from men yeah but we can't do that with our women right we can't we can't just be like ah you know
03:53:53.980
why don't you shut the up because i'm tired of hearing your bitching because that's not socially
03:53:57.820
acceptable but that's how we do it with other men right that's how we do it my ex-fiance literally
03:54:02.780
would do that he would literally be like us imagine hang on hang on almost done so from our
03:54:06.860
perspective imagine you're dealing with a woman and she's in this category of bitching all the
03:54:11.500
time of course it's going to be categorized and when you're trying to fix the problem which is making
03:54:15.980
her bitch right uh you're going to try to analyze what's causing the problem so you can fix it right
03:54:22.460
that makes that makes sense that does make sense but i've had it before like we're like i was just
03:54:26.300
saying my ex-fiance would literally look at me and he'd be like shut the up i had a long day at work
03:54:29.820
like i don't care like i don't want to hear about your problems but i've also had it where
03:54:33.180
well i mean he sounds awesome yeah you would like him actually i think um
03:54:39.420
i i would i would rather that though than a guy taking something that i told him like that i was
03:54:45.260
confiding in him in and being vulnerable with and take it and use it against me and be like
03:54:50.060
well you have trust issues because x y and z i don't i don't have a specific example like off the
03:54:55.900
top of my head but i would rather just be like shut the fuck up your bitching is annoying me
03:55:01.260
than having something like that i told them what the fact that women are always psychoanalyzing
03:55:07.180
themselves to the men that they're with constantly to them and telling them why they think they're
03:55:12.620
fucked up so women are notorious for doing this the reason that i talk so much about blah blah blah
03:55:17.660
blah is because this awful thing that happened to me four years ago when i was walking over a park
03:55:23.020
and i was jump scared by you know random like they do that all the time so they're constantly
03:55:28.380
giving descriptive explanations and psychoanalyzing themselves and why they do certain behaviors
03:55:34.380
and then when a man turns around and says wait a second aren't you doing that because by your own
03:55:38.940
descriptive statement you said you're all up because a b and c and then a woman's like you shouldn't
03:55:44.780
say that that's mean that's messed up you're using it against me but it's like you you said that
03:55:49.180
shit right oh that's so true that's a good point i really like what you just said it's a fair point
03:55:55.980
yeah i mean they're always psychoanalyzing themselves that is yeah yeah yeah i think so
03:55:59.980
i think we tried to like help each other out but oh maybe you did this and it's like something that
03:56:04.700
happened like 10 years ago because this happened and then we don't really want to take like full
03:56:08.620
responsibility for what we did yeah they like narrate their behavior yeah right they narrate their
03:56:13.340
behavior all the time like don't you guys narrate your behavior show of hands if you narrate your own
03:56:18.460
behavior like you've been narrating your behavior most of the night right yeah you guys just kind
03:56:22.780
of like narrate your behavior and so we catalog the narration and then we're like okay well it sounds
03:56:27.900
like she needs a b c and d fixed they just they don't use that against me it's like uh well i mean
03:56:33.980
i wouldn't even know it except you just decided to catalog your entire life's work of events to me
03:56:43.420
i remember when i was working as a teacher i had one student that tried to beat me up
03:56:47.420
and then all the other kids were like oh don't get mad at him like i heard that his mom is in
03:56:50.780
the hospital i was like what does his mom being in the hospital have to do with him like threatening
03:56:54.460
me and the kids are just like don't take it personally i was like oh what the heck you forgot
03:56:59.340
you forgot to start with one time at band camp yeah every time you talk you're supposed to do that
03:57:05.340
uh yeah anything did you have more on that andrew or good to move things on okay all right uh aka the
03:57:14.220
closer andrew on the back of what you said about men being able to use force with other men as means
03:57:18.380
of conflict resolution what recourse do men have against malignant women if any they don't have
03:57:26.140
anything the only thing that they have is counter reputational damage which makes them look mean
03:57:30.540
makes women look like victims so the problem especially in modernity is that when women begin
03:57:36.860
slander campaigns and men defend themselves usually the only way that they can do so is to be vicious back
03:57:43.100
this is unfortunately the side effect of slander campaigns is the without in order to uh to defend
03:57:50.940
yourself like let's say for instance a woman is abusive to you and she's hitting you things like
03:57:56.460
this and one night you physically grab her and move her or move her out of your way so you can leave or
03:58:01.260
something like this she files a police report um and now you're being slandered as being abusive this type of
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thing well oftentimes the only way that you can defend yourself from such slander is to be like no
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this lady was hitting me constantly she was awful this type of thing but it makes you because you're
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you're determined socially by uh what is called the schrodinger feminist phenomenon which is i'm a very
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empowered badass woman or the worst victim you've ever seen depending on which situation benefits me most
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in this case uh women will often uh portrayal while they're slandering you that they themselves are
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the victim if you hit back right so this is this would be the same thing in the context of if a woman
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punches you in the face and you punch her back in the face she still immediately gets the victim status
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even though really she doesn't deserve it can i ask a question one second one second also on this
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is like this is basically a holdover from chivalry essentially also the the issue with uh when it
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comes to like reputation destruction stuff here while we keep it center is uh let's just i mean this
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what i'm about to say maybe doesn't necessarily apply so much if you're just like a normie but if
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you have like hey guys guys this is why we need people to show up on time because we called you on
03:59:22.700
the phone so that you can be listening you cannot be having sidebar i've had to shush you multiple
03:59:28.060
times if somebody else is talking don't lean over to your neighbor and start talking to them it's
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disrespectful and rude to whoever's talking it distracts them it's rude and it fucks the audio
03:59:39.980
so please don't do sidebars so anyways back to this page out of andrew's book um back to this
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i already lost my train of thought wonderful that's exactly why we don't want people doing
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talking about reputational damage yeah so let's say you're like a somebody and the girl's a nobody
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i'm not saying this from an ego perspective but if you're a fucking nfl nba player you can't even
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resort to counter reputation destruction really because you have everything to lose and they have
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nothing to lose that's the second thing maybe they're doing it for attention you actually making some
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sort of sort of definitive statement about it gives them the attention the precise attention that
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they want and then furthermore given the lack it's interesting how there's talks about imbalances of
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power a guy who's like really famous or who has a lot of money or resources dating a woman who has
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nothing i actually think in some ways a woman who has nothing who is involved with a man with immense amount
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of power is actually severely disadvantaged in some ways because the woman has nothing to lose
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nothing to lose if she opts to slander slander or destroy his reputation he has everything to lose so
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this idea that there's some power dynamic i find kind of almost laughable when actually women in many
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instances have substantial power in the sort of uh in the way that they can wield it when it comes to
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any sort of false accusations or slander but i guess going back to my point if you have a platform of
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any kind and you're a guy and some whether it's relationship or just somebody talking about you
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you can respond but you've just put all your audience's attention on something that maybe many
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of them wouldn't even hear about or wouldn't care about so it's a two-edged sword yeah you can resort to
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like uh you can resort to a sort of rebuttal of uh reputation destruction but honestly it really
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doesn't help you that much and i think the other thing here is oh shoot i'm trying to think what the
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other thing was related to uh are you like touching on cancel culture no not really uh when it comes to
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oh there's something else when it comes to reputation destruction um oh related to his original
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point what recourse do men have against malignant women and i think the thing the interesting thing
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andrew in society society has broadly recognized that the method by which men uh activate aggression
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through typically physical violence that has been legislated against thoroughly for hundreds of
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years but there's actually no mechanism to police the ways in which women display their aggression
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there's really nothing there's not even really much civil remedies there's no criminal remedies except
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for very severe cases where there's been like they make a false criminal complaint and it's provable that
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she's lying you know you can get them with this uh even even many times when they do like a false police
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report the district attorney opts not to really prosecute it they get off with probation or something
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you know slap on the wrist um and then there's really nothing in in modern society that has any sort of
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enforcement mechanism when it comes to female aggression in the realm of reputation destruction
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and this sort of thing so i think that's interesting well there used to be there used to be just so you
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know there used to be defamation laws and uh defamation laws were actually enforced readily and let me
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give you an example of a of a defamation law which um which was pretty common uh when the country was founded
04:03:39.340
if you talk about a man you would uh end up sword fighting with him in the morning and one of you could die
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or you would go out with a duel with a pistol and blow each other's brains out perhaps uh as part of a
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legal remedy for uh having your honor in some way besmirched or your wife's honor in some way besmirched
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there's many famous cases of this happening however uh there was legal remedies against women who did this
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as well and here's what the legal remedy was you could challenge her husband to a duel right and so that
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was a great remedy because that would take care of her security so she had to be very cautious about
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who she was running her mouth about because then that the other guy decided to besmirch her honor
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her husband was obligated then to duel with him or become honorless so that was a great way to keep
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that in check right oh well you're gonna be homeless and penniless without your husband's fortune
04:04:39.020
uh because i shot him because he he dishonored me right that was uh that was a significantly
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good way to keep some of that in check but unfortunately that's gone like if you brought
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dueling back in modernity 90 percent of society would correct itself in weeks
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bring dueling back bring it back i agree there we go bring dueling what does it um but somebody can
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like turn down the duel i'm pretty sure but then you look like a bitch and they're labeled a coward
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yeah right the whole point of honor was that uh you didn't the reason people didn't run their mouth
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is because either you showed up to the duel or you're labeled a coward who turned down a duel
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right so every time the other person saw you regardless of what you said you'd just be like
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well you're a coward so who cares and that's the end of that right but if a if a person's woman wouldn't
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uh so that i mean this is actually so common the honor culture uh came back over to the turn of
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the 20th century that's why when you watch black and white movies where men will look over and say
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hey quiet that woman down if she's like running her mouth sometimes the husband would turn and smack
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her right and the point of that was it was part of uh the honor culture of saying look you're about
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to get me in hot water here right so there was a corrective lens or a corrective action which used
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to be able to be taken so can i ask the panel a question sure okay so like going around i guess
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starting here if if you hit a man like you full on as hard as you can close fists punch a man in
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the jaw or the eye or whatever you might do do you think that he should be allowed to hit you back
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or are you expecting to get hit back you've chosen to hit like a man can he hit you back or should he
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hit you back depends on who hunted p you hit first oh i hit first
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yeah just don't like beat me beat me up no no you hit him as hard as you hit him as hard as you can
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now he gets to hit you as hard as you can should oh as hard as he can yeah you hit him with full
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force close fists can he use that same degree of force on you that's a good question this is why you
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don't hit a man i agree as a woman let's get the answers though let's get the answers first can we
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come back to me okay what do you uh well before we get you what do you think um of course should be
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expected but after before even i hit i tried to also like my anxiety whatever they
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like that that gage is really the gagey like the gage is too much so
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so anyway i should expectation and yeah so yes yes okay okay yo elder thank you for the membership um
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um what do you think um i think that men should not hit women yeah yeah even if a girl hits you as
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hard as they can so even in the situation she presented the woman hits him first
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do you think i mean but if the guy did would you think that that was wrong if a guy hit the girl after
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she had hit him the hardest that she could yes i think it's wrong for him for the guy to hit her what
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about is it wrong for the girl i think uh is it wrong for the girl to hit the guy okay is it wait
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is that yeah is it wrong is that wrong is it no i don't think so you don't think it's wrong for a
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woman to hit a man i mean depends it's just like one time like she was mad she hit him and it's like
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the hardest she could right well that's quite the concession um yeah or a concession yeah i think
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you said it right yeah i think i conceded there yeah so he's expected to can no go ahead he's
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expected to control his rage and his emotions and his like but the woman she just got mad hit
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okay if you think about it right like i think that's one of the questions on the questionnaire
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like are men physically stronger than women and i and sometimes i'm like yeah men are like built
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physically to be stronger than girls that's why we have different olympics men and women cannot
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compete in the same olympic team wait have you ever hit somebody have i hit somebody yeah i have
04:08:52.460
like a guy yeah uh and did he hit you first no have you hit a guy multiple times no so you hit a guy
04:08:58.700
like you won't tell us the story what happened uh we just fought about something and i was just like
04:09:03.500
so frustrated like i think she said i was like oh and i was just like slapped him and then how hard
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did you slap him i i think the hardest i could yeah and that was the only time you put hands on
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a guy or have you done it before no that was the first time and last time in my life did he smack you
04:09:17.580
back did he hit me back no he just like left he just left the apartment and i didn't see him the
04:09:22.540
whole night what did he do oh um i honestly don't remember what he fought about what we fought about we
04:09:28.300
talked about it again was it cheating or no no no no never what he just didn't take out the trash
04:09:33.900
or something it was like something like it was something i forgot she's like a 1950s wife beater
04:09:39.260
you fucking you overcooked my fucking uh roast beat wait what what was like a common what uh
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uh my iris possible you overcooked the pot roast oh no yeah i was like very petty and no no but no the
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fight was very serious it was about something but i don't remember i think it was about weed i
04:10:00.460
told him to stop smoking yes i'll tell you it was about weed yeah did you guys stay together yeah we
04:10:06.060
lived together at the time yeah oh domestic violence it was domestic my favorite oh we were in college
04:10:12.380
oh wow yeah that's a that's a position of privilege right so the same thing with when when chair one
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has to think about this right she goes hmm this is uh this is a tough question uh there's actually a
04:10:25.180
position of privilege that women have that uh um i don't really understand why they have it because
04:10:31.420
if you want equality and egalitarian i just oh sorry sorry yeah if you want equality and egalitarianism
04:10:37.100
the idea here is going to be based around the fact that chivalry is gone we are now equals chivalry
04:10:43.580
would always put women in a position where they needed to be a protected class and in exchange for that
04:10:49.020
men men got virtues right like chased virgins and things like this they don't get that anymore so
04:10:54.780
they don't really need to give out chivalry if a man hits you in the face and you can punch them back
04:11:00.780
why is it if a woman punches you in the face you can't punch her back that actually doesn't make any
04:11:05.020
sense wait can i add something can i say something yeah because that's exactly why just you just missed my
04:11:11.580
whole point then if you weren't if you're saying that you don't understand it what i'm saying is that
04:11:15.580
men are physically stronger than women like for example like physically stronger than other men
04:11:20.620
so if a man who is less strong than me punches me in the face and i punch him back in the face as
04:11:25.660
hard as i can um i'm still punching somebody weaker than me in the face why is that socially acceptable
04:11:33.500
hang on hang on but not socially acceptable to punch a woman who's weaker that makes no sense
04:11:37.900
no cousin like that guy who's weaker than you that you mentioned is because like maybe he chose to be
04:11:42.460
weak he could like bulk up and get stronger right but the strongest he's not stronger then he's not
04:11:47.740
stronger when i punched him and that's still socially acceptable like for instance if a man who's only as
04:11:52.940
strong as you punches me in the face it is completely socially acceptable even by you for me to punch him
04:12:00.140
back why is it not socially acceptable to punch you back though that makes no sense if you think about
04:12:06.780
it in the olympics like i said like why don't women and men compete together like it just we just don't
04:12:11.500
it's like there's different standards and levels like even when you play golf there's like a lady
04:12:15.180
team yeah well where are the female boxers trying to punch the male boxers then what if it's a male
04:12:20.540
boxer female boxer yeah you saw a punch male boxers if and if they do punch a male boxer then male
04:12:26.940
boxer has right to punch them back right why don't they have mma with between women and men they don't
04:12:31.740
showcase because they don't want to get hit by men therefore they don't want to hit men men are in a
04:12:38.620
different weight class if you go if you go let's go to an mma fight the woman's conceivably going to
04:12:44.460
be punching you in the face right and you're going to be punching her in the face so the way that they
04:12:48.940
avoid the man punching her in the face is to not have that fight just like a way for women to avoid
04:12:53.820
getting punched in the face is by not punching men in the face right pretty simple if you walk outside
04:13:00.380
right now and there was a tiger outside and you threw like a rock at it what would you expect would
04:13:06.060
happen if there was a tiger outside right outside right now and you threw a rock right at the tiger
04:13:11.180
what do you think it would probably like chase me no so why would you throw the rock i don't know
04:13:16.940
to aggravate i don't know i don't know i just throw this wrong you're telling me to aggravate the tiger
04:13:25.340
you you teach seventh grade right i taught seventh grade yes hot seventh grade okay isn't it the case
04:13:31.260
that between about fifth sixth and seventh grade often the girls are much stronger than the boys
04:13:36.540
because they go through puberty first um i think that the girls are i know i've never seen girls
04:13:44.060
stronger than the boys like they were skinny a lot of the girls were skinny and smaller yeah sure sure
04:13:48.860
but it is often the case women reach puberty before men do and so in many cases they they're stronger
04:13:54.860
than men are okay i can see that actually yeah there's so in those so in those cases wouldn't
04:13:59.980
you have to say that if those girls punch those boys or if the boys punch those girls the girls
04:14:05.740
shouldn't hit them back oh actually i think that it's like different because then like i was thinking
04:14:09.820
about it as like we're all adults and then they're hitting each other but it's like they're kids i feel
04:14:13.980
like it's fair game like the guy and the girl and like the little boys and little girls they can fight
04:14:18.060
each other they're like the same level yeah i think that it's like i've seen girls beat up guys i've seen
04:14:22.700
guys beat up girls like not guys sorry like little boys like in seventh grade let's get the answers
04:14:26.700
from the rest of the panel for your question what about you um i think if a girl wants to hit first
04:14:32.620
then you've opened it up for a guy to respond sorry what's the question if you hit a man full force
04:14:40.780
haul off and punch him in the jaw or the face or whatever as hard as you can should he be able to hit
04:14:45.020
you back yes yes i don't think i should be surprised because that would be self-defense everyone
04:14:52.460
should have self-control when it comes to anger and everything else i think uh i guess really quick
04:14:58.460
on this uh i think a guy would be within his right to do it as a woman if you hit a guy i don't think
04:15:05.740
you should be surprised but i would also have to advocate proactively pragmatically speaking as a man
04:15:13.260
uh even in like a self-defense situation you got to just extract yourself from the situation
04:15:18.860
practically speaking because even if you're 100 she hits you first maybe you're 100 in the right
04:15:25.340
whether it's well i was going to say legally or at least from a societal view you can even if she's
04:15:33.260
the initiator as the man you still put yourself at like significant peril when it comes to the criminal
04:15:39.980
justice system if you strike a woman so you just look it's unfair but that's how it is you got to remove
04:15:46.700
yourself from the situation if you can that's why when i say i don't think men should hit women even
04:15:52.060
they shouldn't hit women in that situation you got to remove yourself from that situation and it has
04:15:57.020
to be done with that girl once a girl ever puts hands on you it's over it has to be done
04:16:03.180
so but as a woman you should not be like if you hit a man don't be surprised nobody should hit anybody
04:16:11.740
but don't be surprised if you get a smack back also gentlemen if it's in public you definitely
04:16:19.020
should not smack back because a bunch of white knight simps will intervene on her behalf even if
04:16:23.980
they see her smack you first you gotta you gotta be cautious about the the surrounding environments
04:16:31.420
and you're gonna put yourself not just in legal peril in legal jeopardy but also they're gonna
04:16:36.620
fuck you up the other men are gonna fuck you up if they see you smack a girl even if it's well if
04:16:41.660
it's in return even if it's in return the city will come after you and they'll press charges on you
04:16:46.940
yeah so um did you have something else on this i do want to try to get things moving on though
04:16:52.940
i mean i i don't think they should but i think if you're gonna hit like a man i think that you should
04:16:56.300
be expecting to get hit back and i was just gonna tell a funny story it's like quick i know one time at
04:17:02.060
band camp no i know i know a guy who was getting hit like literally beat by his girlfriend like
04:17:07.500
bloody face and he's like stop hitting me stop hitting me stop and he ends up calling the cops
04:17:12.380
on her this woman was crazy she takes her head bashes it into like a granite countertop now she's
04:17:18.620
all bloody she's like what are you gonna tell him i'm gonna tell him you hit me first like women are
04:17:22.860
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excuse me um oh fuck am i crazy here brian i feel like the gas the chat's gaslighting me but
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in in like elementary school or something like isn't there this tiny window where the girls are
04:18:28.380
taller taller yeah this type of thing and then i think like come back yeah you know what i mean and
04:18:33.420
then you come back two summers later or whatever the boys are all way bigger and stronger and this
04:18:38.220
kind of thing i'm pretty sure that i'm correct about that i think it's a little bit younger yeah
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like fifth sixth grade fourth fifth six yeah blackbird that might be the case yo guys w's in the chat over
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right is it i don't know dude guys w's in chat that's not why they call them oilers right they call
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them oilers because they're whales yeah because you get oil from whales right isn't that oh isn't
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that why they call them oilers yeah not because they're rich in oil but because they're you're
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six or seven i don't know they bumped it or something uh he's a soddy oil prince uh yeah thank you so much
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they say tier one sub is five so okay it's five it's five per sub i thought they raised the price
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on the subs i don't know i thought they were going to raise it whatever okay uh let's get back into the
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show thank you so much um thank you so much uh blackbird you're a fucking legend all right let's get into the uh
04:24:26.700
questionnaire questionnaire here brinda actually no hold on this is for oh she's gone damn okay uh
04:24:35.100
here we're just gonna start i have to wait until she's back uh you know what here we'll go into some
04:24:42.220
of the pre-show notes then uh brinda no we did all of brinda's notes do we have a sophia here that was
04:24:49.260
one of the no shows and angela do we have an angela no those are the flakes uh let's see patrice
04:24:56.620
oh no that's she's gone hold on i think it's just patrice we did all of ivy we did all of brinda
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we did callie uh let's see uh you want to talk about what is real love because hard to find real
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love what you're dating a jamaixican jamae jamae ukian jamae uk okay yeah real love real love
04:25:25.660
do you feel guilty for saying that you're single while knowing you're in like a well i think i said
04:25:32.140
the singer because we never decided to get into the relationship okay since today let's do one
04:25:39.580
on one it's kind of relationship right like but hold on wait wait for it uh-oh uh-oh sorry sorry sorry
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ogle ogle ogle good sir hold on we have a champagne pop here so
04:25:57.900
pop champagne whoever enjoyed the champagne um also i don't know why it's not triggering
04:26:12.380
yo ogle guys w's in the chat for ogle he's a he's a legend and then i don't know why these aren't
04:26:27.900
i'm so happy right now my my youtube memberships were disabled
04:26:33.740
yo kat thank you for the gifted 50 memberships guys w's in the chat for cat she's a homie
04:26:38.060
and then ogle thank you again for the gifted 50. uh cat is a legendary member over there
04:26:46.140
in the discord uh yeah we'll do we'll get cups going uh i feel like i
04:26:55.260
hold on somebody want to like ask a dating question while i'm dealing with the the champagne
04:26:59.900
the champagne i'm doing with the champagne i'm doing it i'm doing it and i'm doing it
04:27:04.540
i'm doing it and i'm doing it and i'm doing it and i'm doing it and i'm doing it and i'm doing it
04:27:06.460
oh god no no i i need a translator um what is love yeah oh no i said the singer but like you know
04:27:16.860
i like him more than friends so um that looks dangerous but unless here they pop
04:27:25.100
i can open it oh what the fuck oh really yeah i took a wine glass oh but this is champagne there
04:27:32.540
we go i feel like it's gonna spill three two one oh really oh
04:27:42.620
it wasn't quite a pop oh i got it at least i got it off right chat all right
04:27:48.860
uh here just pass just pass him uh wait everybody wait hold on alina you already failed um
04:28:01.820
you're not a baby oh everybody's over 21 besides alina right you are not 21. she's 20. yes she's a
04:28:10.060
vampire why are you guys why would hold on i'm no the alcohol the why are you the bottle is here
04:28:21.980
why are you passing empty cops down i'm sorry give it to him or the cops yeah why would you okay sorry
04:28:30.780
i'm ocd here pass the out brian you're perfect pass the champ here pass it down pass it down pass it
04:28:41.180
she you cannot pass an empty cup oh my god i'm sorry i'm losing my mind who does anybody not want
04:28:52.380
does anybody not want champagne who don't want thank you i did you you want champagne
04:28:57.020
can you teach them how to pass cups like they're seventh graders real quick
04:29:03.020
i don't think seventh graders could pass cups that well either what they're pretty it's pretty
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rough after covet they lost two years of learning yeah so they didn't have a lot of good skills like
04:29:14.380
motor skills some of them didn't have motor skills
04:29:16.460
you're welcome very sweet we don't have motor skills
04:29:34.300
thank you ogle appreciate it um okay yummy thanks let me just get caught up here on a couple
04:29:48.780
things and then we'll get into some of the stuff oh man ogle you're a legend thank you so much man
04:29:54.140
thank you thank you good good talk good talk okay where were we oh here we go um let's get into the
04:30:03.900
questionnaire uh brenda actually wait no this is first going to patrice and cali the statement is
04:30:13.580
are men insecure for caring about a woman's body count you both say yes no i oh i was confused earlier
04:30:20.220
like that was the first yeah no they're not insecure okay so it's just uh cali you think men
04:30:24.620
are insecure if they care about the woman's body count of course they um i mean like most guys i don't
04:30:31.900
know kind of like when i see so many um guys in la or random on tiktok social media they talking about
04:30:41.900
the guys care the body body count especially for um especially for um especially for yeah yeah they
04:30:51.580
do be honest they do they do what they care the body count they're insecure oh they're insecure for
04:30:59.180
that and uh so you think it's like what why are they insecure uh of course you know like some type of
04:31:10.780
men love to have a woman like trophy or something like you know oh this is my girl like okay look like
04:31:22.460
i'm a relationship with this girl or before that he wanna he wanna show you one day to his friends family
04:31:31.100
i think yeah who like who dated with over 50 or more like a lot of people like share the like
04:31:50.860
something body count means like having sex so um even we don't like no body count is not i mean like
04:32:00.860
even like in relationship so how many how many relationship you have and then if more count and
04:32:08.140
then you feel possible to insecure possibilities are lower so how does it make him insecure oh like oh you
04:32:16.620
still talk with the ex and then like kind of like when i have that highest body count like they assume
04:32:26.620
like um they try to judge you know i think definitely judge but is it wrong to judge somebody that you're
04:32:35.100
looking to be in a relationship with wouldn't it be the correct thing to do to judge their past i'm saying
04:32:40.780
is like just not generally just some type of insecure man and even i have that experience or so
04:32:50.540
so yes i said yes so you think that men shouldn't care how many bodies a woman has i hope not i hope
04:32:58.780
not but they insecure for the body count uh who here cares about body count
04:33:04.620
um um you know what no yeah like on a girl or a guy like on a guy on a guy yeah yeah on a guy
04:33:15.580
all right uh what what is uh what's your body count my body count let's see i'm 33 and i would say
04:33:25.580
say i got a lot of body count since i moved to la once i moved to la i would not say
04:33:40.540
i'm not good at math but i let's say we can arrange yeah let's say 30. okay let's let's wait let's say
04:33:55.580
i can't i'm not good at math yeah i'm not good at math baby so 30 30. what if you're does uh
04:34:08.380
what's the number in korean oh two oh it's korean is in my laptop two wait what two for my
04:34:17.100
every sex work no no they want to say the number in korean like the real number
04:34:22.140
what is like oh before i move by here yeah in the korean language oh korea ah
04:34:27.180
samshimmyung samshimmyung samshimmyung samshimmyung no she just said 30. she just said 30 in korean
04:34:32.540
oh yeah something something wrong no oh sounds like a something wrong
04:34:39.740
all right um okay i guess going around the table we'll go around brenzo
04:34:43.500
what's your body count so it's it's in the high single digits so nine and i maybe like seven eight
04:34:54.620
nine maybe seven eight nine liar uh what about you can you guess nope
04:35:02.860
uh all long-term relationships but four okay ivy that's a tough question
04:35:12.780
yeah i remember i was a teacher there are kids and i might watch this i will pass on this
04:35:18.220
i don't think they watch i don't know they're not up until 11 and a half yeah they're not watching
04:35:22.860
nobody watches the show nobody watches the show like it's it gets pretty bad views
04:35:28.700
uh it does it does i mean it's really we're on the and we we're only going down
04:35:34.220
you're good okay uh seven okay two one seven oh elena two hey come back here
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did you say you said it last show right what did you say last show
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i think i need a range under 30 under under 30. multiply it by three and that's the real number
04:35:57.500
all right there he is okay for everybody for everybody i don't want to single out mary
04:36:02.140
i'm honest at least four okay uh i feel like a whore
04:36:11.500
so the next statement wrong for man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight patrice
04:36:16.940
you said yes that is wrong no i was so confused by your yes no but at what point did you get this
04:36:23.580
figured out or is this all just i don't know honestly all right um that's probably why you
04:36:29.340
got dumped in oh gosh yes that was why your your poor reading comprehension uh he actually made me take
04:36:37.020
an iq test like before i was allowed to date him and a dna test i like that i'm gonna make all my
04:36:43.020
future prospect girls take iq tests he made me get an ancestry genealogy test and also take an iq test a
04:36:49.180
a paid one and a free one that's impressive okay who is this guy i'm doing that ship from
04:36:54.860
i'm stealing what what was the point of the of the ancestry test he only wants like i mean he's not
04:37:01.180
wrong for this he wants children that looks like that look like him so he was looking for somebody
04:37:04.780
who's kind of the same mix as he is so english irish uh so that was the point of that and then
04:37:11.660
kids inherit iq is and is inherited through genes and he was objectively high q high iq so he would
04:37:17.580
only have children with somebody who was also high iq otherwise you're dulling down your your gene pool
04:37:22.860
like it's the same thing if you're six five and you date a girl who's five foot one
04:37:27.260
your kids probably aren't going to be six five anyways i got to move this on but um the statement
04:37:31.740
is wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight uh stephanie can you clarify what's
04:37:38.780
it's not wrong oh no okay because both remarks okay uh let's see here brinda do men put in more
04:37:45.740
effort oh it depends more effort when it comes oh should men pay on the first date you say no
04:37:51.660
patrice you say yes callie you say yes yes ivy equal bailey stephanie you say yes uh mary didn't
04:38:03.420
respond to that one alina says yes should men pay on the first date yeah just show of hands who's yes on
04:38:09.500
that one okay uh it depends on who who asked who out you know like if a girl's asking a guy out like
04:38:17.660
you're the one taking him out and if he offers to pay then sure like yeah except women don't ask men
04:38:22.220
out i just did i wanted a guy and i wanted to ask him out so i asked him out and took him out
04:38:27.100
yeah so i don't dispute that women occasionally perhaps even rarely ask men out uh but if i were to
04:38:35.340
ask you of all the dates you've been on did you ask them out or did they ask you out i'd probably
04:38:41.740
wager that they asked you out more frequently and i think this would be the case for almost all women
04:38:46.140
um so the whole whoever i should pay thing is kind of that would be a fair statement if women asked men
04:38:53.420
out it was 50 50. yeah i get it it's it's i mean look it is it is what it is but women just don't be
04:38:58.300
asking men out like that but um i do have one question on the who should pay thing um
04:39:04.700
hmm well it's not really super related to this but um just show again who who said yes
04:39:13.500
boom boom boom boom boom boom will you take your husband's last name absolutely i would take my
04:39:18.940
non-husband's last name you put a ring on my finger i like i'm okay what about you huh
04:39:24.300
full you literally just rose your hand full would you take your husband's last name oh yes are you
04:39:31.740
wait wait let me try something are you a fascist raise your hand
04:39:40.620
wait wait wait wait let me try something should north korea annex south korea raise your hand
04:39:54.620
okay um will you take your husband's last name i would but i want to keep my last name
04:40:03.260
wait what like you would yeah i would keep my last name okay all right what about you um i would like
04:40:09.980
to do the hyphen thing too because i have a very cool last name right so okay uh who else will you
04:40:16.620
take i would take it yeah yeah i would it's all i want yes how about this just those of you who are
04:40:22.540
like pretty uh positive about that what if the his last name's bad but he still wants you to take his
04:40:27.980
last name you still take it absolutely i already have a bad last name okay he already has a bad last
04:40:32.300
name so i'll take it beautiful beautiful so wait going to you two you won't take your husband's last
04:40:37.500
name hi oh are you but you guys i mean do you could ivy do you consider yourself more traditional
04:40:42.620
uh am i traditional no i'm not that traditional you're a modern woman okay cali my career yeah
04:40:49.180
chong my korean family name is chong yeah chong so i want to put the chong chong i want to keep
04:40:57.020
the chong oh chong chong chong yes chong okay uh that's cool um don't you think it's fair i mean
04:41:08.940
like so how would if a guy you were on a date with and he takes you to dinner i don't know it's a
04:41:16.380
hundred dollar dinner and then the waiter comes anything else he's like no that's it two checks
04:41:20.460
please oh would there be a second date no nope yeah no no well here's the funny thing about what
04:41:27.740
you guys just said if i was dating a girl and i was wanting to marry her why oh hold on just okay for
04:41:33.980
the sake of it if i wanted to marry her and she was like well i want to hyphenate our last names i'd be
04:41:39.420
like uh goodbye um can i ask you guys ever at least offer to pay for half the bill always okay first date i
04:41:49.900
always offer to pay but then if if he was like okay cool and then you guys just wouldn't talk we
04:41:54.780
got in a fight of who could pay i i wanted to pay on our first date so badly and he refused but going
04:42:02.700
look going back to my point here why do y'all want to keep all the traditions that benefit you guys
04:42:10.300
man takes initiative man takes the lead man has to ask you out man has to move things forward physically
04:42:15.100
etc etc etc man pays for the date man protects you man provides
04:42:20.860
but you won't take his last name what i didn't say that we said we want hyphen yeah that's not
04:42:27.340
taking his last name but then like see for example like some times if you combine my name
04:42:32.140
with someone else's name it sounds cute don't care what what i don't care if his name is the
04:42:37.180
worst i don't care if his last name is hitler you're taking his hold on wait hold on
04:42:42.140
i don't know about oh yeah that was never mind okay uh let me just get out of the
04:42:49.980
fucking oh no um okay let me walk that one back um but anyways look if his name is really bad i
04:42:58.220
don't know it's like corn buggy corn dongle you take his last name yep but so what about your kids
04:43:06.780
though do they get his last name or you hyphenate the kids names too hyphenate hyphenate hyphenate the
04:43:12.300
kids or you you know what that's fine but you gotta deal with a guy who's gonna go 50 50 you gotta
04:43:19.980
you gotta take initiative you gotta lean in for the first kiss i don't know is it an asian thing but
04:43:26.460
most asian moms don't take the husband's last name i mean l l for asian guys i guess i don't know yeah
04:43:33.580
like my parents my mom has like a separate last name from my dad my grandma as well my aunts and
04:43:38.780
uncles like i don't it's not common in my culture wait so in in um you're vietnamese right vietnamese
04:43:46.060
chinese yeah yeah but you're american so who cares okay i guess i don't know i don't know am i american
04:43:53.740
i don't know well i mean you i mean people on this chat say i'm not american but i mean you have american
04:43:59.580
citizenship i have american citizenship yes but i would say like if words come to shove like maybe
04:44:04.540
people in asia would accept me a lot more than american people so it's like is home where like
04:44:09.180
you know you were born or is it where you make it right is my country where i was born or is it where
04:44:14.220
i can make it to yeah like i don't specifically know the culture in china or in vietnam i think it's i
04:44:22.060
don't know if it's a vietnamese thing or chinese thing but i don't know in my like a lot of my friends
04:44:27.180
in asia like yeah i think it's some some east asian like it's like you don't always have to take
04:44:31.580
the guy's last name and it's always it's like totally fine so it's so funny when like my friends
04:44:35.660
are like oh my god happy birthday to like miss chi and i was like oh it's miss chung because like
04:44:40.540
her last name is chung wait so i just i mean look i'm i google this when it comes to chinese names
04:44:45.260
it says traditionally patrilineal so children usually take their father's last name oh okay but hold
04:44:51.580
on however women do not legally change their names after marriage but the children take
04:44:56.620
the father's last name okay and then uh do they take the last name in vietnam uh in most cases
04:45:05.420
fathers pass their last names to their children and when couples marry women typically don't take
04:45:11.100
their husband's last name okay yeah but the children take the father's yeah i have my dad's last name
04:45:16.220
yeah so are you fine with your kids having the father's last name i guess so i didn't know that
04:45:22.620
was actually that's like the first time i never actually researched it but it's like the typical
04:45:26.860
i'm like okay i don't want to make it difficult so i guess they can just take their dad's last name
04:45:31.820
okay yeah brian i have a question for you so i know that you're not on the premise of like legal
04:45:36.620
marriage and legally doing all that you i've seen your other some of your other stuff would the woman
04:45:42.300
that you chose to be with long term and the mother of your children would you still
04:45:45.260
want her to take your last name obviously you'd want the kids to but would you want her to it is
04:45:51.100
sort of a convention of marriage the children would take my last name as far as the the woman
04:45:58.060
uh if we weren't married like would you want her to change her facebook name and her instagram
04:46:02.540
name or and all of that her credit cards would you want her to go by whatever then your last name
04:46:07.900
but you're not marrying her that's a good question i actually i don't i'm not sure
04:46:11.980
her the kids 100 yeah take the last name i don't know if i would honestly
04:46:20.060
it would be better if she did take it i don't know how much i would care would you still put a
04:46:26.220
ring on her finger and like never marry her like long-term forever engagement type thing like does
04:46:30.700
she still get the ring even if you're not getting legally married no ring but she has to ruin her body
04:46:35.420
and push out kids like not that that that's an honor by the way like i think that that's the best
04:46:38.940
thing a woman can do with her life is to have children but yeah but she like she has yeah i
04:46:43.980
work i work to provide i ruin my body too but she doesn't even get the ring or anything that says
04:46:48.940
like just to be clear i know you're laughing over there but like for the vast majority of human
04:46:53.100
history men were laborers and literally ruined their bodies much worse than women going through pregnancy
04:46:59.420
and honestly i can make the argument that like most a lot of work that both well men and women have
04:47:06.940
today involves like copious amounts of sitting which is actually absolutely terrible for your body
04:47:13.100
and so this idea that men through their work and labor don't like hurt their body yeah like and men die
04:47:21.180
much earlier because of all the additional stress that men have as compared to women so well yeah can i add
04:47:26.300
something to that then okay so i like how you mentioned that oh men labor and so they do hurt
04:47:30.860
their bodies but that's like physical like external stuff when women have kids their bodies like never
04:47:36.060
the same after that what do you mean like like uh like if i don't oh i'm not a gynecologist but i just
04:47:41.820
know that one of my doctor friends told me that you know he wanted to have kids with his wife and his
04:47:45.500
wife was like he was like how many kids you want the wife was like oh i can't have more than two it will
04:47:50.060
like physically ruin me what does that mean i don't know what that means it just means that like the more kids you
04:47:53.900
have the more risk you are at like your health declining and also like you know like uh death
04:48:00.860
at birth it's like i know like obviously technology is like more advanced now but there are still
04:48:05.420
mothers that will die in childbirth i mean but my understanding though is like the the greatest risk
04:48:11.740
of like death or like some sort of complication is going to come in the first or second but once a
04:48:18.300
woman's been pregnant once there's a like i'm pretty sure the if she's she went through the
04:48:23.580
pregnant the first one or two pregnancies fine the outlook for her subsequent pregnancies i don't think
04:48:30.700
it's it's worse the more kids you have in fact i think it would be an indicator okay you've been
04:48:35.740
through this before like i actually think you're probably better suited to continue having more kids
04:48:39.980
oh i think you should do some research about this because like actually that's why they kept
04:48:43.260
that women like surrogate women that make money off of getting pregnant they kept them at like eight
04:48:47.260
or something like if you have any more than eight kids like through surrogacy or like
04:48:51.580
giving birth to eight or more kids you might die well you should you could look this up i'm not denying
04:48:56.220
that there are health consequences to pregnancy uh it does take a toll on your body probably in terms
04:49:02.940
of if you're looking at the cortisol uh women are under uh more uh chemical stress during pregnancy
04:49:09.260
it's a stressful process uh so that certainly has an impact and there could be some degree of
04:49:13.820
accumulation that goes on but uh i mean i think you could say this about it i suppose the more times
04:49:20.300
you do anything you know there is in each instance there's going to be a chance of something bad
04:49:27.180
happening if you play russian roulette well i mean i it's i don't think that's a fair uh comparison
04:49:32.860
eventually you're gonna die but uh if you know if you you know the more times you get into a car it
04:49:40.380
probably statistically increases your chances eventually of getting into a car crash if you
04:49:44.860
only drive once or twice you know chances are low but if you drive a lot so but uh i'm not
04:49:54.220
anyways i don't know you're not sold on that like that idea well the original point the original point
04:49:59.740
was what i think the original point you're saying oh you were asking me no you were saying oh okay well
04:50:05.100
women ruin their bodies i'm not like ruin them but she's you know okay so you enter into this
04:50:11.180
agreement okay i'm gonna like let's just hypothetical scenario you and i are dating i'm gonna submit to
04:50:15.740
you i'm gonna listen to you i'm not gonna talk back to you i'm gonna cook i'm gonna clean i'm gonna
04:50:18.860
take care of the kids i'm gonna do everything i'm gonna make you very happy and you're not gonna marry
04:50:24.060
me i'm not taking your last name so i get provided like the providing and protecting and i get to have
04:50:29.500
i get the privilege of having your children or whatever agreement you don't get that much protection
04:50:33.580
because you get to take the bullet so my question was like i don't like i don't even get like the
04:50:40.860
ring like the symbol like like i'm his like he claimed me put a ring on it she's mine on it that's
04:50:46.780
it boom mine mine you're mine you're mine that's it how'd you feel about a caller what the excuse me
04:50:56.540
would you ever cheat on your like the mother of your children the one that you said that you're
04:51:00.060
going to be with forever would you step out no even if she was like old
04:51:06.300
they won that ring for home even if she was old no i would be old too i don't care period uh yeah
04:51:18.540
what's complicated oh we have it here let me do some chats here uh
04:51:22.700
uh christopher murthy rather rather rather okay all right there it is boom all right we have boom
04:51:29.740
boom boom beautiful uh i'm just gonna move on to the next thing then uh you know what let's start from
04:51:35.740
down here uh do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners uh i think everybody
04:51:42.300
says oh no callie you said no on that um why is that oh can can you tell me the question again i will
04:51:55.260
yeah i get it but can you tell me the transgender thing that
04:51:58.940
i kind of don't want to i kind of don't want to let me read um so okay do transgender individuals
04:52:12.220
have a duty to disclose so does a transgender person should they tell the other person that
04:52:18.300
they're transgender you think no um well like ah i try to think about if the transgender is my friend
04:52:31.420
you know like but sometimes the transgender so beautiful like lady boy not lady boy but i'm like
04:52:39.580
they are more beautiful than seriously they are 10 10 i can tell yes but just to have a deep just
04:52:46.300
that's it so i'm just um well that's up to the partner even the transgender didn't mention about it
04:52:56.540
but later after the conversation in person then if the partner tripping about it that's not work but um
04:53:06.860
if it possible to understand that so i think i don't have to yeah you don't have to say that just
04:53:15.020
speak for me you're like oh me so horny me love you long time bro damien why did you play that
04:53:23.660
excuse me damien how could you oh my god oh wait really quick
04:53:32.140
dark omen 42 donated 200 if you have kids in your 20s your body snaps back much quicker and better
04:53:40.140
but feminism convinced you all you had to wait till your 30s and you recover more slowly and not as
04:53:45.820
well overall that's true oh just gotta start pumping out kids right away all right dark omen thank you
04:53:54.140
for the uh thank you for the uh stream labs message man really appreciate it uh okay i think i understand
04:54:02.940
your position um uh i have a question sure to you do you think that kind of takes away the choice that
04:54:18.860
people should have when choosing their partner like i have a preference a sexuality preference
04:54:25.420
to be straight so do you feel like you're robbing me of that well that that gets into our next
04:54:33.580
question which is is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman to which uh you wrote yes and
04:54:39.820
then ivy you also said yes uh so we agree oh well do you want to answer mary's question though oh
04:54:52.060
first of all i'm straight i love it i love man first of all just um i trust
04:55:02.220
i love to yeah i love dick you know what i'm saying but um i'm saying it's just
04:55:07.420
i'm saying it's just um try to literally represent them you know i'm not a transgender but i'm like
04:55:15.900
i try to understand them their life so um of course yeah just that's it like do you like girls at all
04:55:23.580
or just men just hell man okay okay so you're you go you're you're at a bar you out to a bar you're
04:55:30.620
talking to a guy you find a super pretty boy totally your type you guys are hitting it off really well
04:55:36.860
you go back to your room yeah pants come off it he i don't know has no vagina oh yeah how would you
04:55:45.580
feel well absolutely before go to before taking to my room i got attractive from him right from her
04:55:56.700
from the partner so that's why i took him her to my place after i did um
04:56:06.700
i'm straight but i'm gonna talk to her like baby
04:56:09.340
i don't know whoever but maybe i'm a straight but you know since i took her to my place i'm gonna
04:56:20.780
enjoy you know just the bug is just a bug you know i don't know maybe i'm open i'm not sure no
04:56:27.260
what of course i'm gonna feel it like how she's i know like oh i think i i think i know where you're
04:56:36.220
coming from i think i understand i think i understand yeah it's like you're um there's
04:56:40.700
like a type for it like you're um like a type of in like the rainbow where like you like someone for
04:56:48.860
you know the lgbtq plus community there's a things like you i think it's called demisexual pansexual
04:56:57.500
yes yes that's the one stop it wait so hold on time sexual but ivy you said it's straight for a
04:57:06.140
man to date a trans woman yes okay you think that's straight yes yeah i said so yeah why is that um
04:57:17.100
because i think that like now that trans woman or yeah like that person the uh that woman yeah that
04:57:24.220
woman now identifies a woman and she like got the surgery and so she has the female parts and so
04:57:29.900
i think that that's like straight if the guy like likes that woman then he likes her if they still
04:57:35.100
have a penis oh no but you said trans women so i'm assuming trans women no i think that transgender
04:57:40.940
people like i think they fully in my head i think that they fully went through with the surgery so you
04:57:46.060
don't think if they don't have the surgery that they're not trans or they're not women yeah like
04:57:50.540
like what if they dress up like a woman like the lady boys like they still have penis true those
04:57:55.820
lady are they women are they women or are they still men oh they're actually like physically
04:58:00.620
strong like men though and so i think they're ones that have had the gender reassignment surgery
04:58:05.500
they're biologically men they have the chromosomes of a male but then they can't reproduce they can't
04:58:11.260
have children well some women can't reproduce and have children do you do you think that uh
04:58:17.660
uh transgender women are they female uh transgender women are they female yes
04:58:25.100
but you do you understand the differentiation i'm making here between woman and female right
04:58:29.660
so woman would be gender uh female would be sex oh so do you think they're they've changed their sex
04:58:37.100
um what were you teaching these seventh graders i don't touch on this subject actually they would
04:58:43.100
go into a separate class to learn about this wait how old were they they were i taught um fifth
04:58:47.580
graders fifth grader wait fifth graders were learning trans stuff yeah there's like a community like
04:58:52.540
they it's it's actually required all like california schools you have to have the lgbtq flag in the
04:58:57.420
back of your class what what no fucking wait what's wrong with that wait wait wait hold on what's wrong
04:59:03.260
with that don't worry about that but is it true i mean that's why the they made us put it up in our
04:59:07.660
rooms wait hold on do you do you um question was there written communication about this uh what do
04:59:14.780
you like a memo did the memo go out an email no no they just gave us a flag and was like oh it's who's
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that who's they the administrators la usd no i taught in the bay area was it a public school yeah no it's
04:59:27.500
a it's a charter school so public private school so did the parents understand that this was occurring
04:59:32.380
yeah of course and they sent they signed written consent in that i i consent to my child being
04:59:37.500
taught these parents these parents want their kids to go to that school they can't get in unless they
04:59:42.620
apply but wait but hold on it's a you said a private school a public charter school so it's public
04:59:48.220
school it's publicly funded but privately run i'd like a tech school publicly funded but what is that
04:59:56.300
maybe that's a thing but i don't it's a i taught there it's a thing but what does it mean privately
05:00:01.420
so it's privately run so it's like they're not connected to sf usd they have different rules
05:00:06.620
so if fs usd do not want to have the flags and they have a separate rule the school that i worked
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at was a private charter school so they have their own law i thought it was a public it's a public
05:00:16.380
charter school so it's publicly funded so they use taxpayers money and they also take funds from like
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other companies and stuff so they can it's like very weird and then they can like so teachers usually
05:00:29.500
like they have a contract so if you're at a public school it's really hard to fire teaching no matter
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what they did but if you're at a charter school it's like you're at will you're like a tech employee
05:00:37.580
it's like the minute they don't like you they're like we're gonna fire there so they said you had
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to put up a gay pride flag it's not like they said it they just gave it to us and then they just put
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it up for us didn't she did she not just say that they they like had to put up the flags and all
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yeah oh yeah we have to put up the flags like they went to a separate room to learn about like trans
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no there's the kids some kids opted in to like during the lunch during their lunch time which
05:01:00.940
is like their own time then they can take this class and it's 30 minutes every wednesday and then
05:01:06.380
they just go and they give them a pass about what and then it's like a space for them to talk about
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stuff i wasn't a part of this i don't know yeah but you brought that up in the context of the
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conversation about trans stuff oh i brought it up because i think someone asked me about seventh
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graders yeah yeah see what you taught the seventh wait i said that i didn't teach any of this stuff
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to seven because i don't like touching on this yeah because i actually was really bad i got like
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their pronouns mixed up sometimes and so i was like not someone that they would listen about like you
05:01:35.340
know sometimes these students like they change their names like every other month yeah one minute
05:01:40.460
they're like christian the next is like i'm milo okay i'm gonna interrupt you that really catches me
05:01:45.340
by surprise because in the classes that i'm in right now to be a teacher in texas nowhere whatsoever
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if anything the contrary i mean you said texas right i taught in california i know that i know that
05:01:56.460
i'm just saying it catches me by surprise yeah she was teaching sf which is the most liberal
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san francisco is like totally ideologically captured so um damn that's okay anyways we can't
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linger too long on that but i guess really quick on the whole straight thing um so can people change
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their sex yes how i think you just said they get surgery yeah okay i'm just gonna go ahead and say
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yeah you can change your your gender but i don't think you can change your sex i mean you can change
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your gender and i think i mean right now i can say i'm a boy i'm a he but then sex wise it's a part
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it's a part of your body so then you're actually physically changing a part of your body and so you
05:02:35.660
change your sex that part is dictated by genetics you cannot it's a part of your biology you can't
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you can't change your chromosomes you can't change that you can chop off whatever you want i can chop
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off one arm and i can become a one-armed person doesn't mean i was born a one-armed person you know
05:02:53.020
what i mean i can go tomorrow and go get a bunch of plastic surgery and morph myself into a different
05:02:57.180
person but it's not who i am and it's not what i look like just like you can't be a man and go get
05:03:02.300
some surgery and then the next day you wake up and you're a woman but they also do like
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hormone therapy as well it doesn't matter you're still a man you still have the wrong chromosomes
05:03:09.660
you still can't reproduce you're still a man but there's some women that can reproduce some men
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that doesn't that's not pertinent that's a fault it's not what they were biology
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yeah if some of this like oh go ahead go ahead if a man okay if a man put his put a bag over his head
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and you throw him into a room and another guy penetrated him and they just you know you just
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called john jill but it's really a guy and it's friction based is that guy straight he is that guy
05:03:38.540
straight screwed another man is that guy straight is that so he but then does he know that's a man
05:03:45.100
no i can do i i think i'll do this really simply okay yeah so i'm dating a trans well hold on
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i don't want it i don't want to say it in the way it will get fucking clipped a man
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a cis i hate this term cis man is dating a trans woman they proceed to he has anal sex with her
05:04:05.740
her is that straight yeah that's still straight i mean you have anal sex with a woman yeah but that
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would be that would be straight to have sex what if you suck your girlfriend's dick is that straight
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what if you what well she's so your girlfriend's dick is that straight but andrew her her position
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that we have to contend with is that she she only acknowledges that it's a transgender woman
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if they've had the post-operative like they've their post-op so there would not be a penis
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so but she keeps saying but wait these are these are non-reproductive right and you say well wait a
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second there's some women who can't reproduce that's fair what makes those women women
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i don't know like they were you don't know what makes women who can't reproduce still women
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wait you said they were born women their chromosomes yeah okay yeah they were born female yeah so when
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you say there's some women who can't reproduce you're just affirming her position that they're
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still women even though they can't reproduce right yeah like they were born yeah so what makes them
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women i guess like if a man can't reproduce is he still a man yeah he's still a man okay yeah right
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so then what makes them a woman if it's not about reproduction there must be i think it's also
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about your experience right like if you identify as a woman then you get all the experiences that a
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woman would get same if you're a transgender woman then you're gonna identify as being black i mean
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you can't because you aren't black you don't get all the same you don't get all the same hang on what
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if i had all the experiences of a black man could i then identify as being black uh do you have like
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that skin color well wait wait wait wait why would i need this skin color i thought it was about
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experience yeah but you're saying that why would you get those same experiences if you didn't have
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the same skin color how are you going to get the same experience when you look like a dude with a
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wig on how are you going to get the same experience as a woman i mean a dude with a wig on is going to
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have a there but depending on their race so you don't have the same experience as opposed to like
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different races and ethnicities yeah but why do you think that like okay so what you're saying then by this
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logic is that really really really ugly women right can't be women because they don't have the
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experience of women wait what do you mean they have an experience of being oh i never said anything
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about an experience that i think like something that women literally bond over and every woman goes
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through an experience that a trans woman would never in their life experience surgery or not they
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would never have a monthly cycle ever so all of these experiences i'm i'm confused what you're
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referring to because that's a pertinent experience to being a woman i think like there's some questions
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on there about like how you know do women have equal rights to men like are they treated equally
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or like about gender pay gap so i'm thinking about those type of experiences as opposed to like
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genetic experiences bear with me here bear with yeah let's say a woman is really ugly and just looks like
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a man so everybody treats her like a man okay that's what she experiences hang on that's what she
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experiences is she's still a woman i mean but then even though she's treated like hang on hang on
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can you answer my question she's still a woman i think you're asking me a question i'm trying to
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answer it yes i'm answering right now i feel like you're going to answer a question i didn't ask you
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but go no no no okay let me okay i'm going to say the answer if it's not the else then then say it's not
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okay but i think that you're saying that i'm going to reiterate so this woman is looks like a man and
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so she's treated like a man right right and that's is is that what she wants some women want to be
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more masculine and then they oh so she wants to be a woman so she okay okay so in that case even
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though she looks like she looks like a man but she is a woman but then that means like biologically
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she's a woman so she'll have these monthly cycles so she has a similar experience what makes her a
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woman is her biology i mean in that instance yes what okay i'm super confused so help me out here
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yeah it's not like super black and white wait it can't be about sweet it can't just be about the
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experience because it's just about the experience then if you experienced only being treated like a
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man you would be categorized as a man by your logic but if you say wait a second no there's still
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a woman because you default to biology then the default is the biology right no i'm saying that her
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experience is going through monthly cycles of having a period so that's why i would say yeah and i
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think that because she's had that so then what makes them a woman is their biology no no again i
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didn't say that either i'm just saying that it's like all these combined experiences of how people
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interact with you and how i guess like your body works then i think those combined you know create
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the experiences of daily of women in general i guess yeah do you not think that's like supporting
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delusional people we should just give them what they want uh because they feel like it wait what do you
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mean because it's operating out of reality uh like the mindset is not aligned should we support
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delusional people okay so i think if someone were like i was born as a male in this lifetime but i
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believe i was meant to be female then i don't think that's delusional it's like they really believe this
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and there's like movies about it too right where like some people go crazy they want to die because
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they want to become a woman right and it has that really famous actor in it i forgot what it was
05:09:20.540
what if i wanted to be a cat um because i feel like you may know this there is actually i think
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a study where they took the brain scans of uh transgender women and males and like um basically
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like the parts of the brain lit up of the people who like wanted to be the opposite gender in the way
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that they wanted it of the gender they wanted it to be do you know anything about that yeah a lot of
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them were gaming so here here's the question right it's like if you had done that same study with the
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same sample right and they weren't game in would you get the same result and we don't know right
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because many of these studies are biased and then the second is brain scan technology really doesn't
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tell us very much because the sample sizes are so small right you're talking about different areas
05:10:06.780
which are affected in the brain especially they're talking about things like gray matter or various
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chemicals this type of thing what you would need is you would need a sample size large enough where
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oh i scanned your brain you feel like a man and your brain supports that we just don't have that
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kind of this is not enough studies there's not enough data but the reason why i brought that up
05:10:25.580
we're going to be enough data there's not enough data because when you donate to
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like that they don't use the money for unbiased scientific relevant data what makes that unbiased
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so or they follow a scientific method because they're all they're all funded many of them are
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funded by lgbtq groups but don't you feel like bias don't you feel like having data though in areas
05:10:47.740
that we don't have enough information is no matter what is important and like vital for just our social
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experience could be but there's there's publishing bias which happens and there's other biases which go
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into a lot of the ways these studies are conducted so in other words you don't want to do science
05:11:03.500
uh by trying to affirm a world view and so then adjusting for the affirmation of the world view
05:11:11.100
supposed to run an experiment the results are what the results are and that's it but that's not the
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way that many times in sociology these things are conducted and what you're talking about is a mixture
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of sociology and then a little bit of neuroscience when it comes to the scanning so the results are
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uh so let's just put it this way i'll be i'll be the most charitable i can be
05:11:30.700
those results for all brain scan studies right now are inconclusive and since they're inconclusive
05:11:37.020
they're not really showing us anything we're not going to bank on them because uh they're not science
05:11:42.060
right it's not we we can't get something conclusive out of them yet well this is not enough data but again
05:11:47.500
if if there were more studies that we could conclude you know something that's factual but right now it's
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all like it's it's he says to say aren't and we can't conclude then we're not going to defer to it
05:11:59.100
right like that would be like me saying well what if we had a bunch of studies that affirmed my bias
05:12:04.460
worldview yeah well then i guess we'd have to believe your bias that's just your perspective
05:12:09.500
based off of your yeah situations yeah yeah yeah yeah i just brought that up that would be no good
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yeah i i only brought that up because i wouldn't agree that um that people are delusional if they
05:12:21.820
truly feel something and they're to the degree of like wanting you know to harm themselves and there
05:12:26.460
has to be something that happened during development where it's like you know like it's literally inside
05:12:32.860
of them in their chemicals to where like you know this is something that they truly need you're
05:12:37.900
trying to intellectualize something that is not based in reality well the only because there's studies
05:12:42.700
even though they're inconclusive there's still some i understand what you're saying what you're
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saying what you're saying makes sense and if you don't mind i'll uh i'll reiterate the position you
05:12:52.780
can tell me if i get this wrong but i think your position is just this that clearly this isn't delusion
05:12:58.940
these people obviously are feeling this in a very big way or they wouldn't be so adamantly pursuing it
05:13:05.340
right so this this probably is not delusional right yeah i do feel like some people do take advantage
05:13:11.100
of you know those who who deal with this and that definitely you know creates situations where
05:13:15.740
people feel like oh yeah they are delusional because they take a situation and define an entire
05:13:20.460
group i don't think it's like fair to like do that you can feel however you want to feel but don't make
05:13:24.860
it my problem like don't let it negatively impact my choices wait a second so schizophrenics are not
05:13:31.340
delusional right yeah they're not i don't think i just what wait a schizophrenic by your logic would
05:13:40.700
not be delusional i mean they really really feel that way they really really hear the voices they
05:13:46.620
really really want to do what the voices say so therefore they're not delusional i don't i don't know
05:13:51.900
the case studies on schizophrenia so i wouldn't be i do medical assessments and delusions are
05:14:00.780
actually one of the symptoms that we use as a marker to to dictate and help us assess a medical
05:14:07.980
the scale of a medical emergency or the probability of one and a schizophrenic episode is actually one of
05:14:14.860
the markers like scientifically in medicine is delusions um so i mean just so you know like that
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is an aspect of the way that we would measure if something was delusional or not would be only the
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only way i could think of is if we were looking towards behavior which was abnormal otherwise how
05:14:35.900
would you know it was delusional or not like if somebody came over to you and said that gremlins were
05:14:41.420
visiting them at night and you know stealing their socks my assumption is you would think that this
05:14:47.740
was such abnormal uh belief or abnormal behavior that they were suffering from some kind of delusion
05:14:53.420
right so why wouldn't we map that on also to other groups like this and uh well we do and that's why
05:15:02.460
we have things like gender dysmorphia and other uh kind of clinical uh psychoses for this is because
05:15:09.100
we're trying to describe this delusional behavior right i mean there's a reason that it's actually
05:15:16.460
categorized as a mental illness gender dysphoria i think oh graffito tact donated two hundred dollars
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yo graffito thank you sorry for the delay man do you really think surgically created the harj is
05:15:29.980
identical to a real one come on if a man lays pipe and goes to town on that thing it's tearing apart
05:15:36.460
into a bloody disgusting mess like what the heck that's so graphic yes just just very brief oh
05:15:44.060
sorry okay do i have to answer that do you really think sure why not oh i mean because i have a lot of
05:15:52.460
friends that are transgender and then i think so yeah like i've seen them and i'm like you've seen
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the pussy no i like i mean not i've seen it like in my face you've seen the vagina yes like we change
05:16:03.180
in front of each other and like yeah but have they been like spread no no i don't even see my real
05:16:09.900
female like not real but like you've got you oops oops Freudian slip oops oops you said real but uh
05:16:18.700
just real quick uh back back to this chair what just i just have one more question for you um if you had a
05:16:24.940
person who walked around all day on all fours and barked like a dog and ate out of a dish but
05:16:32.940
refused to act any other way than that would you say that that was delusional
05:16:40.300
is that for who you say you say chair one yeah chair one you yeah well so i i know why you're asking
05:16:46.380
that question and it's like there's also gender identity that plays you know it's a big role um
05:16:53.500
when it comes to just yeah this person identifies as a dog but that but their gender identity or
05:17:00.860
their sex like they're i mean just their identity they're now a dog i i don't i don't i don't know i
05:17:08.540
i i wouldn't compare a person to someone barking like a dog but they feel like they are they want to
05:17:14.860
be they feel if they feel like that and that's the way they're living their life that's all that they want
05:17:19.660
to be and they're on all fours all day and they bark like a dog they act like a dog they eat out
05:17:25.260
of a dog dish would you say that that's delusional
05:17:30.860
well yeah because they're acting like a dog but it's it's not like it's not it's not the opposite
05:17:36.060
sex they're not trying to act like the opposite sex and identify what makes that delusional though
05:17:40.140
what makes that actually delusional because it's not it's not a male or female it's not a human it's
05:17:45.820
what about people that want to identify it right right it's so it's what makes delusional is not
05:17:50.140
the thing right what about people that say that they don't have a gender and they're a they or an
05:17:56.300
it what do you think of that is that delusional what do i think of it yeah oh i don't that's the
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reason why i wasn't really in the beginning of conversation because i i don't know how it feels
05:18:04.140
to be in the position of needing uh of needing to to identify as you know it or they and i'm not
05:18:09.980
really one to like judge on that um so i i don't i mean i don't have any delusional because it's not
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true like that's what makes it delusional right i don't have any like opinion on it because i don't
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know how it feels i feel like um i i do believe if they if they want to identify that way i'm not
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one to judge i know other people are going to and cool that's how you want here's a less here's a less
05:18:31.900
rare example then let me let me just try it this way are you aware that there are many many people
05:18:37.420
on this earth who believe they are vampires literally they believe that they are cool and
05:18:43.180
they live a vampiric life they live in coffins not kidding right they won't go out in the sunlight
05:18:49.260
they won't do any of those things because they believe that they're vampires they even drink blood
05:18:54.220
not kidding they even drink blood um are they delusional
05:19:03.260
character or whatever perhaps but yeah it's not fictional they are vampires they are drinking
05:19:11.660
blood they are acting as though a vampire would act 100 percent they are doing all of the things
05:19:18.700
that vampires do what what what makes them fictional oh no no like like vampires are like
05:19:25.500
unless vampires exist and i'm just sounding dumb but
05:19:28.220
i mean the type that you're talking the bram stroker dracula vampire right but these people
05:19:36.620
are vampires i mean they must be because they act identical to them well yeah they're they're acting
05:19:44.700
as if like they're not a human so like yeah no vampires are human well then
05:19:50.540
what where are we getting this information from what if tomorrow i'm honestly i'm confused i just
05:19:58.300
for time management stuff i have to move it on andrew do you have a final thing on this or
05:20:02.460
good to move it yeah it's just a vampire is human a vampire would meet all of the criteria that you would
05:20:07.580
have for an identity you believe that you are the thing you act as though you are the thing 100 you
05:20:15.180
are a human right why are you not delusional what would make that not delusional i come from a place
05:20:22.140
where it's male and female that's it and i just i don't judge and that's it okay all right uh two
05:20:28.380
things really quick the previous thing from graffito tagged i want to come back to it briefly graffito
05:20:33.900
thank you for the tts i apologize for the delay i had to i was up for a bit uh he said it's not the same
05:20:39.980
is it your position that i don't know how else to say natural i guess i don't know what better term
05:20:49.100
it do you think it's the same as trans pussy wait have you have you experienced it so that's why they
05:20:59.180
fuck with the inner they fuck with inner they not make the watch i'm a transgender i heard it
05:21:07.500
what the fuck okay that ivy do you think it's the same um i actually don't like to comment things i
05:21:14.780
don't have knowledge about so i actually don't know about this like if it's the same or not because i am
05:21:19.100
not a male i've not tried well here that's fine you you don't know about it but perhaps if i provide
05:21:24.620
some descriptive uh some sort of descriptions that might help so okay so and and you do know
05:21:32.940
at least you're a biological female right like you're not trans right no would you be upset if
05:21:39.580
somebody thought you were trans i wouldn't you wouldn't find that they just think i have like
05:21:43.260
masculine features then but you have your own experience as a woman you have your own self-awareness
05:21:48.540
there um do you think that for example if say i don't know where we would put it but um let's say
05:21:59.740
somebody put a hole in your armpit oh a hole oh surgically they put a hole where your armpit is
05:22:08.780
and then you had to keep that hole open and then a man stuck its penis inside your armpit hole
05:22:18.540
do you think it would feel the same you think it would be the same as pussy i don't know i'm not
05:22:25.420
a man i really cannot say how about this how about this then um so i believe the procedure that they
05:22:31.980
do is they surgically put a hole in that area where the penis once was and they use tissue from the
05:22:42.780
penis and the testicles and the the scrotum they like fold it they like cut and like fold and like
05:22:49.500
and then i only know growing up i watched this screwed up show called i am jazz i am jazz and she
05:22:56.620
went to get this like plasty and they explained it all in great detail on a kid like a kid's family show
05:23:01.340
on tlc and i remember like i just remember it and it's and then you have to do this thing called dialing
05:23:07.100
where you put these like giant things in every day to like create yeah so but so let me ask you this
05:23:15.660
let's say that uh somebody had um they didn't identify as trans but they uh maybe they're they got i
05:23:25.980
don't know how this would ever happen they they're they landed on a a pole oh and it forced their balls
05:23:40.620
and penis inside of them oh and like would you think that that's a vagina i mean i don't know i again i
05:23:50.940
have not experienced that myself okay yeah i cannot say i'm look i've not encountered
05:23:58.540
trans pussy pussy yeah that's not pussy it's not it's not the same i mean you can't say it unless
05:24:05.660
you try this okay well let's put it this way no but so so forget i have hold on hold on hold on
05:24:13.020
forget the impale thing sure they go to the best trans doctor the best the most uh the best trans
05:24:21.100
surgeon and they get the the surgery and there's no complications whatsoever aside from the uh the
05:24:28.060
dilation that they constantly have to keep up with but no out of the norm uh complications still not
05:24:34.780
pussy that's not pussy let me ask you would you do you feel like it would feel like pussy no it would not
05:24:41.260
feel like it wouldn't smell like it wouldn't is that it's supposed to be a gotcha oh yeah what no
05:24:49.500
it's not supposed to be a gotcha it's just we're just talking just yeah it would not it would not feel
05:24:57.180
the same it wouldn't look the same it wouldn't uh smell the same it's not pussy that's not pussy so
05:25:03.900
what makes pussy pussy for you or for like most men somebody who was born with a vagina with the
05:25:10.460
correct chromosomes uh oh yeah go ahead what uh i was gonna say but let's say let's say they like
05:25:17.820
they um like you don't know that that they're that they're not you know you don't and so they essayed
05:25:22.780
me yeah i i don't know what that anyways whatever go ahead um and like how would you be able to tell
05:25:32.380
like just like just genuine like questions how would i be able to tell yeah like would you be able to
05:25:38.220
tell if they didn't tell you well i've not encountered trans pussy but i'm pretty confident
05:25:44.540
i'd be able to tell so in fact i can make the friends hold on i'm pretty confident if i was face
05:25:50.620
to face with a man who's dressed up as a woman i don't need to undress they don't need to be undressed
05:25:57.580
i can tell before it even gets to anything sexual but what if there's a hypothetical where you just
05:26:04.620
you didn't unfortunately and you're okay so they tricked me they tricked me into having sex
05:26:09.180
well yeah that's that's a hypothetical and so i'm what's the situation oh like like you're
05:26:17.820
about to do the deed and the pussy's in front of you like yeah i'm i'm genuinely curious you want me to
05:26:23.420
articulate like the the the uh visual differences the smell yeah i'm just wondering the feeling yeah
05:26:32.140
i'm just wondering like if if um no you could like teach me on the difference yeah so so i think it's
05:26:38.060
i think actually both men and women can actually make determinations on this so i'm a man i have
05:26:45.420
tools of my own and then i've been with a woman's surprise surprise been with a woman sexually i know
05:26:52.780
what vagina is i know what my own tools look like feel like whatever if you were to invert that it
05:26:59.500
would not it would not feel the same it wouldn't visually it wouldn't look the same physically the
05:27:05.420
lubrication would be different they're deaf i don't know what the fucking smell is like trust me
05:27:09.740
pussy does have a distinct smell unless you're asian okay but at the end of the day it is it is an
05:27:16.780
assumption because you've never like encountered uh because they don't have well i mean you know
05:27:22.620
they some asian people don't have the body odor anyways whatever never mind yeah they don't really
05:27:28.300
sell deodorant in asia either i mean some people have bought some asians have body odor but many of
05:27:33.260
them uh it's like a genetic thing don't have body odor okay so i'm gonna go ahead and ask my question so
05:27:37.980
you're saying that you're not able to answer because you can't feel from a man perspective so i'm
05:27:41.660
going to put it to you like this you're saying that you can't really know how a fake vagina looks
05:27:46.380
like because and again you can't feel it so let's say that the fake penises looks like a sausage wiener
05:27:54.060
that you put on a hot dog i've never seen one and i don't want to see one but let's say it looks like
05:27:58.460
that and it's the closest that they can make it look to it do that does that still make it a woman
05:28:04.940
i don't know why it did i shut the hopefully the champagne is tasty enjoy some more also can we
05:28:14.700
get some phosphorylina what is kvass it's a really good drink i drank it my whole childhood it tastes
05:28:20.700
like beer but it's no alcohol it's really uh w's in the chat for ogle if you who wants more champagne
05:28:27.660
anybody please go ahead why you're pouring that out isn't isn't there an easy distinction to make um
05:28:34.540
you ladies agree that uh there are women who are lesbians right yes okay don't you think they
05:28:41.820
would be able to tell the difference yes i guess so that's a good one yeah but i'm not lesbian so i
05:28:49.580
don't know yeah yeah but but wait a second so they could determine very very quickly even if men couldn't
05:28:56.300
right um i guess so i feel like if they're like i mean also not all vaginas look the same either
05:29:03.820
yeah so maybe it's like a different type that's like saying all pizza doesn't look the same all
05:29:09.500
pizza doesn't look the same but pizza is pizza if you try to give me a taco i would know it was
05:29:15.420
different i don't even care if even if you put sauce and cheese inside of a taco like i would know it
05:29:20.140
was different i'll be honest i'm sorry steph you gave me that question right about like the sausage
05:29:25.500
wiener like on a hot dog i like date a guy who's like you know thing looks like that so that's why i was like
05:29:50.940
how do those bottle girls do at the club every night gotta like jingle the top i know i know how
05:30:00.700
oh you know how they do it well i just i took one glass oh my god you should tell him
05:30:06.220
it twist and pull at the same time it's struggling no it's funny
05:30:25.100
i don't want to continue this conversation it's a little bit uncomfortable
05:30:30.940
it's so uncomfortable i'm not trans i cannot speak on this
05:30:38.700
are you uh are you the president of the united states am i what
05:30:43.500
the president of the united states am i the president of the united states i'm not
05:30:48.060
can you speak about the president of the united states i honestly don't even speak about him i don't
05:30:54.220
yeah but can you can i yes i can yeah and but i choose not to can wait can people wait wait can
05:31:01.500
people competently talk about the president of the united states even if they themselves are not
05:31:05.820
the president of the united states yeah i mean people can do what they want like i said they have
05:31:11.100
their own experience and they want to talk about things that they're they want to talk about but i
05:31:15.500
think that it's a personal choice i'm like oh if i don't really know that experience i don't think
05:31:19.260
i should facilitate like or like pass around like false knowledge and news and like make people
05:31:24.780
like you know misconstrued you know i think it's important to have like all the information and then
05:31:29.500
you make an informed judgment or some informed um argument and i just don't have that in this case
05:31:36.380
with about this topic do you want it in this okay okay okay
05:31:40.140
anybody so then you should defer to those that do in this case us right um i guess i can defer yeah
05:31:50.300
i mean like i'm not gonna take on great well then if you're deferring to those who do have the
05:31:56.380
information you're willing to concede that trans oh it's not saying that i don't have women no no
05:32:02.140
it's not saying that i don't have the information i just don't i've never touched a physical like i've
05:32:06.140
never touched a trans woman's that part like a vagina so i cannot say what it feels like and
05:32:11.340
doesn't and i'm pretty sure everyone here hasn't as well so i don't know if anyone here has better
05:32:16.060
knowledge of what that would feel like so in that case i can't defer on that aspect because i'm saying
05:32:20.940
that i'll only defer if someone else has actually personally experienced it wait i have a question
05:32:24.940
have you ever been to antarctica does brian wait wait wait hold on hold on what a penis looks
05:32:29.340
wait hold on have you ever been to antarctica i've never been to antarctica yeah would you have like
05:32:34.860
an intuition that it would like how it would feel in terms of the temperature i think it'll feel
05:32:39.820
cold okay how do you know that you've never been to antarctica i think that people that have been
05:32:44.700
told me it was cold that's the only reason yeah maybe or like no it's not social media or is it
05:32:50.860
common sense that was it doesn't really quick we need to do uh cheers to ogle cheers to ogle
05:32:59.820
cheers um wait okay really quick what pronouns does a baby have before they can speak um i don't
05:33:17.500
know what did the parents say or the child well before you can even conceptualize the ideas of gender
05:33:24.060
gender identity and sex um what what do you uh what pronouns are the baby given um i think like
05:33:32.380
they're probably given because they cannot speak yet they're probably given the pronouns that they
05:33:35.660
were assigned to at birth i mean assigned to at based on their sex at birth yeah i think for a while
05:33:40.780
though i don't don't quote me on this but i think there was a birth certificate where you could circle
05:33:44.380
like there was like another like unassigned yeah oh but it's just i this is more so related to pronoun
05:33:52.060
usage so it's because with babies we don't use we don't refer to their gender we refer to sex and we
05:33:59.820
use he him she her but that's related to sex so i think kind of with pronoun usage even no yeah that's
05:34:11.900
why that's why i said i was like oh before they can speak and you know when the baby is born i think
05:34:16.620
everyone assumes that their pronouns are going to be what sex they were at birth yeah i don't know
05:34:22.540
anyways i gotta move it on just for the sake of time but um are men physically stronger than women i
05:34:28.060
don't actually know if anybody anybody disagree with that i don't think so okay uh can women be sexist
05:34:34.300
towards men to which uh ivy you disagree yeah why is that i can women yeah i think that so like i think
05:34:46.540
because i went to like a social justice warrior college i was like you know like we learned about
05:34:51.340
like the study of um like gender studies and like um like not yeah mostly did a lot of gender study
05:34:57.580
club courses as like part of my ge's and i learned a lot from it and one of the things is like unless
05:35:02.620
you're in this like a a i don't call me it's been a while since i took those classes but like unless you're
05:35:07.500
in a position of like power or you have a hegemonic status or like you have some influence to like
05:35:14.700
inflict like to influence another social group or another group you know below you or something then
05:35:20.620
you can't really like be is towards them you know whether it's like race is or sexist so in our
05:35:27.340
society we could say like the cisgender male would be someone that has a higher social and that's not
05:35:33.260
in in society like they have more power and so as a result then they would be able to be racist and
05:35:40.300
sexist or as i think that a female even if they were to say sexist things like oh i don't know for
05:35:46.380
for example what like i can't even think of off the top of my head but they would just say something
05:35:49.660
sexist then all men are pigs oh all men are pigs okay is that sexist what that's a sexist
05:35:55.820
thing all men are pigs do you do you think it's sexist is it sexist all men are pigs how
05:35:59.820
about if all women are pigs i don't know because i've heard guys say like oh don't trust men like
05:36:03.820
all men are animals all men are pigs like i've heard men say that so is this are all women
05:36:08.300
gold diggers is that sexist i've heard oh i actually heard it i've heard that is it sexist no i don't
05:36:14.300
think that's sexist i think being sexist is saying that like because you are a female you have only
05:36:21.340
you're only capable to do this i think that is sexist you know and then you're saying that because
05:36:26.140
of your gender then we're not going to give you this race right then i think that's sexist it's
05:36:31.500
when your sex or your um identity as a woman or as a man or no identity as a woman is going to
05:36:37.900
influence the way people treat you in a life in a negative way what's your definition of sexism
05:36:43.100
i think sexism is like um i i don't know the the i don't want to say like something that okay what
05:36:49.180
i think it is um it's like basically someone that has a is in a position of power is um basically
05:36:57.900
prejudice towards somebody based on a specific like based on their gender yeah showing prejudice
05:37:03.900
based on their gender that is sexism in my in my definition so if a woman um a female nurse
05:37:13.020
has prejudice towards uh men and um she's she has access to certain medications in the hospital
05:37:21.500
and uh this is actually something that happens and then she either overdoses these men on the
05:37:26.540
medications they are taking or gives them medication that they're not taking but would
05:37:30.860
would other would kill them for whatever reason um and they're she's specifically targeting them
05:37:35.500
because they're men she's not doing it to women she has some sort of like gripe specifically against
05:37:40.220
men uh would this be sexism i think that because she is in a position of power right in that specific
05:37:46.460
circumstance i do believe so but i think what if she's treating a a really rich person oh i don't
05:37:52.140
think we're talking about wealth at all right it was just mainly about you know yeah
05:37:55.820
yeah male okay what about a woman who uh let's say a woman uh kills a bunch of men
05:38:06.300
but there's not some sort of nurse patient dynamic there's nothing like that she just goes out into
05:38:11.980
the street and just shoots three men because she hates men oh so she's just like a serial killer
05:38:16.060
or something like a male serial killer uh sure okay is that sexist is she being i mean in my definition
05:38:22.460
it's like oh sorry in my in my head it's like did she do anything in her life to like basically make
05:38:28.860
these men's life worser like she just ended it right yeah she just ended it all right worse worse
05:38:35.180
wait so is it does that make their life worse um i don't know it just ended like what is there
05:38:40.540
oh so is it not a big deal i don't know what what do they think right i don't know who they're dead
05:38:44.940
they don't think anything exactly so it didn't make their life worse some people some people believe
05:38:49.660
that living is to suffer so maybe she ended their suffering it's the shame how about how about
05:38:54.140
this let me let me let me ask you this a different way maybe my face is right i say if i say the
05:38:59.820
following phrase is this sexist all women are good for is childbearing is that is that sexist
05:39:08.140
yeah i believe so yes okay is the following phrase sexist all men are good for is working
05:39:14.540
um i don't think so what right okay so now why is phrase one sexist but phrase two is not sexist
05:39:25.740
even though they meet the same criteria okay so hang on hang on um if i could yeah target hey wait a
05:39:32.460
second oh both target a specific group after they've targeted the entirety of that specific group
05:39:38.940
they give specific qualifiers to that group expressing that they're only good for x thing
05:39:45.100
and not other things which meets your definition of prejudice so why is the first one sexist but the
05:39:52.140
second one is not i think for me um like prejudice is like yes it's like come some sort of preconceived
05:39:58.940
notion but what i think is like the next step to make it like sexist is for that saying to actually
05:40:05.180
impact their life so like if a woman is thought to be only good at childbearing that any job she
05:40:11.100
applies for she will not get it because then the labor will be like the employer will be like just
05:40:15.580
go have a kid like don't work you know but if a man is all he wants to do is to work i was sorry if
05:40:21.500
what if society thinks that all a man can do is to work and the man wants to be like i don't know what
05:40:26.940
else could they if they want to be like a singer like they can still do that right it's like they can work
05:40:32.220
and oh yeah so if the man wants to like i don't know like relax i don't even know like being a
05:40:37.740
worker everyone works perhaps do other things like i don't know be looked at as a sage or giving good
05:40:43.260
advice or things like this which are not in the category of work there would become a social stigma
05:40:50.380
against men in those positions right i feel like it's giving advice and if there's a social stigma in
05:40:57.020
those positions by you making the statement affirmatively that men are only good at working
05:41:02.140
that would definitely be sexist right um i believe that the the saying of that all men are good at
05:41:08.700
working i don't think it's sexist just because i don't think it's gonna no no no yeah men are only
05:41:13.740
good for work they're only good for work if saying that i don't think that would negatively impact
05:41:20.140
their life like i don't think it would change their quality of life that much so if a woman
05:41:24.860
or a collective of women think that my only use in life is to work that would not negatively impact
05:41:32.060
my life and like can you give me an example how it would negatively impact your life
05:41:38.060
you're dating whatever so any any example that you would give for how the following phrase all women
05:41:45.100
are good for is bearing children however that would negatively affect women is the exact same way the
05:41:49.980
other statement would negatively affect men by the same criteria whatever it is i just think it
05:41:54.860
wouldn't be the same because like if you use the first thing where like women are only good for
05:41:58.220
childbearing and then they try to apply for a job then the employer's like no you can't then the woman's
05:42:02.140
like screwed like they have no money they can't feed themselves they don't have a home like they
05:42:05.020
don't have to move over their head about men and if you only say that about men uh then they could be
05:42:10.380
disqualified from other things like sagely advice being looked at uh as beacons of honor whether
05:42:16.460
then i don't think that's bad i don't think that's not as bad yeah let me finish beacons of honor
05:42:22.940
instead of workhorses there's all sorts of negative impacts which could happen to them
05:42:26.940
because they're only viewed as being work mules how is that not the same thing it's a negative impact
05:42:32.860
right a social negative impact from the perspective of men just like that's a social negative impact
05:42:37.500
from the perspective of women so i could make the counter argument to you and say nah it's actually
05:42:42.460
good that employers are discriminating against them because then they don't have to work ha based
05:42:48.940
right but that wouldn't make it you would you would say no you would dispute that because you'd say well
05:42:53.180
women don't want that well men don't want to be viewed as only being workhorses so how is it that
05:42:58.220
that's not sexist to men because i think about the base i'll let you respond michael johnson that's
05:43:03.340
i have to let it come in thank you michael is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's
05:43:08.940
sex or gender the whole idea that sexism is prejudice plus power is only held by people with room
05:43:15.180
temperature iq chair four is delulu high chair rate thank you michael jones sorry for the delay on
05:43:23.180
that go ahead yeah so i i want to respond to that two biases in the court for you being a good father
05:43:28.700
things like that because your only view of course is being good for work okay i can see that like
05:43:35.100
that impacting and like the court of law like usually maybe children are given to the the like
05:43:41.100
the mom because they think yeah you're only good for work i can see that yeah but i would say like
05:43:47.180
the fact that i think that as humans wouldn't that be sexist i mean i think about like your experience in
05:43:54.380
life right as humans we basically just need like like i said money food shelter so if a woman cannot
05:44:00.300
get a job based on like this stereotype or this prejudice then that actually affects our ability
05:44:05.100
to access those necessities whereas a man access to their kids because they're only viewed as being
05:44:10.700
workhorses and not as being paternal yeah then that would negatively affect men and that is what is
05:44:16.300
currently happening yeah yes and i believe how's that not sexist and i'm not i'm not saying that's like
05:44:22.060
a bad yeah i guess so i guess i can concede to that yeah it is sexist yeah because it's like he did it
05:44:28.060
yeah i think so wow that's a first i think by the way by the way that that argument that came in from
05:44:36.940
the chat that wasn't mine i was going a different direction somebody else threw it out there credit
05:44:41.420
where credit's due i uh i let me tell me if this meets your definition though of sexism uh let's say
05:44:49.020
let's say you have a really powerful woman let's say kamala harris did you vote for kamala i didn't
05:44:53.340
vote at all okay uh let's say she became the united states president she would be you know very powerful
05:44:59.900
uh she is in the white house and she wants to hire a janitor and she turns down all the male janitors
05:45:07.420
because she refuses to hire a male janitor she refuses to hire a male janitor uh because they're men
05:45:14.300
would that be sexist um i think so because she's in a position of power okay yeah i guess that's
05:45:21.100
consistent though uh let's see here and then going to uh the next one can people be racist towards white
05:45:30.380
people uh brinda which are you a yes or no on this one honestly i don't know enough about all right
05:45:37.340
yeah uh ivy you say it's the same you say no he's like i'm done no no no i still agree i think that
05:45:46.540
one i agree more with that than the sexism one because that one's like so like i think that race
05:45:52.300
and like sex is so intertwined it's like that's what we call it intersectionality so it's really hard
05:45:56.860
to talk about it separately you know like someone's like race and gender and their intersection of that
05:46:02.620
really creates their real experience in life and so it's really it's like in the questionnaire we
05:46:07.100
like separate that and so but i think that race is obviously more like prominent than sex so i think
05:46:13.180
above that i am more like more adamant about my stance there you go so can people be racist against
05:46:19.820
white people um we define the type of person like what people a black person can a black person be
05:46:26.220
racist towards a white person i think that in um and it's very tough i mean i said no yeah on the
05:46:34.540
questionnaire i think like as a society like we cannot but as like an individual i think that this
05:46:40.620
person can can asian can asian people people be racist towards white people um i think that asian
05:46:48.380
people i like we can say things like we'll say stuff right like oh right like we can say
05:46:55.660
that that we so even the word for white person in chinese or for incanties is very like mean it's
05:47:01.020
like they don't even have a word for a white person it's just like that monster you know wait really
05:47:05.500
yeah yeah so wouldn't that be there's no wait there's not a like what about the color white there's
05:47:11.180
they don't use it they say yeah so it's like they just say the word why and i think that probably
05:47:18.860
maybe when they first visited china when the asian people saw them they're like oh that looks like a
05:47:22.700
ghost you know so monster i don't mean monster i mean ghost sorry i said it wrong it's not monster
05:47:27.820
it's ghost why it means ghost yeah but what about just in like the united states can asian people be
05:47:32.780
racist towards white people i think that asian people like they can say racist things um they
05:47:38.540
can say racist things but they cannot be racist can they be racist towards black people i think that
05:47:45.260
yes they can why um because we've seen people like asian people with like power and they've like
05:47:51.900
you know killed black people yeah uh like the la riots weren't you in san francisco yeah wait the
05:47:57.500
la you mean the roof koreans yeah the la they were defending their businesses in korea town they were
05:48:05.580
completely justified that was not from a they were in a position of self-defense not authority they were
05:48:11.820
being they were being attacked their businesses were being burned to the ground they were being
05:48:15.900
shot at and they defended themselves that wasn't a position of power i'm talking about the incident
05:48:20.620
that sparked that i'm not talking about them defending their business oh she's talking about
05:48:24.060
the police brutality yeah she's talking about rodney rodney king no no so i'm not sure you know like
05:48:29.980
what happened what it was like latasha harlan's like she was the girl that got murdered by the the
05:48:34.940
store owner because she went in and she uh the store owner was like thought that she was doing
05:48:39.660
do something dangerous but she just stole a bag of chips it was it was that i don't know that's
05:48:43.580
pretty dangerous so she was robbing the place and got shot she stole a bag of chips or something
05:48:48.380
she was robbing the place and got shot yes yeah that's what happens when you rob places you get shot
05:48:53.420
oh gosh but like tell me why i was in oakland my phone got robbed why did why did no one shoot
05:48:58.540
that guy you know wait i don't know why i don't know why californians absolutely demand that they
05:49:03.660
have no right to defend themselves when they're getting robbed but in the rest wait you got robbed
05:49:07.980
stage i got i got mugged by by um like a person in the convenience store what what race were they
05:49:16.700
i they were wearing a ski mask i can't tell really i really don't know they're wearing a ski mask like
05:49:22.380
i was on the phone my friend and also i don't know ski mask you can see a little bit no and by the way
05:49:27.420
by the way hang on she was shot by a woman yeah she was shot by a woman yes yeah so she was robbing a
05:49:32.940
place where there was a woman who felt to justify and again we're not talking about gender right
05:49:37.820
now we're talking about race that's why i said that i feel more strongly about race than i do about
05:49:41.980
gender they are so interconnected yeah but wait a second she got robbed in oakland doesn't know that
05:49:48.700
okay at 10 a.m in the morning yeah she's robbing the place she's robbing it this woman feels like
05:49:55.420
she needs to defend herself why does she need to defend herself she's just robbing the place like
05:49:59.740
she's not oh she's just rob so i could rob your house you don't feel like i you you you need to
05:50:05.340
defend yourself it's it's like it's like it's material items you're not defending yourself like
05:50:10.780
they're just robbing you it's like you just give it up like take my stuff but you know give me my
05:50:15.260
life it's like they're not physically harming you they're just taking your things and i think
05:50:19.500
that maybe because i'm buddhist but i think that in this world we just how about how about
05:50:23.660
fuck that commie bullshit this is the united states america here if you try to rob our ship
05:50:30.220
we blow you away that's how it works like what what country you think you moved to lady i didn't move
05:50:35.580
anywhere i was born here this is america do you have like a religion right now like for one thing when
05:50:42.940
it comes to force doctrine if a person's willing to rob you there's no reason to assume that they will
05:50:48.700
not do other horrible things to you when a person in the commission of a crime they can easily
05:50:53.500
escalate that commission of a crime like why would i wait for you to pull your gun out if you're
05:50:58.460
already in the commission of crime against me i think that was like oh yeah i think that was like
05:51:03.420
the debate like some people were like oh what if like latasha was gonna pull a gun on her and then
05:51:06.940
like actually look at security cameras like there was no instance of her doing anything she just like
05:51:11.180
stole a bag of chips and yeah but you know what you know how all of that could have been avoided
05:51:15.900
tell me how all of that could have been avoided if one person did one thing differently what would
05:51:20.940
have happened if one person hadn't been oh i don't know fucking robbing somebody the whole situation
05:51:27.820
would have been avoided right i think it was like it's like there's also an understanding right like
05:51:33.340
what human life is worth a bag of chips you know it's like a moral ethic question i think
05:51:39.980
in that case it's like you're saying that you're willing to kill someone because they took
05:51:44.220
a bag of chips from you that's really okay well let's take it to the to the other extreme how
05:51:49.260
much of of everything that i have can a person steal before i'm justified in protecting myself and
05:51:55.900
my valuables can they steal my entire life savings and my house where my children sleep
05:52:01.900
can they steal the car that i that might can they steal all of this so that we're left penniless
05:52:06.940
and out in the snow am i allowed to defend my property then i really hope that if you were
05:52:12.060
getting robbed that much that you have renter's insurance and that you will be able to come
05:52:15.980
yeah i don't have renter's insurance let's say i think that you were just not that bright like
05:52:19.740
you need renter's insurance if somebody really answer the question if somebody were stealing my
05:52:25.580
house if they were literally they came in they stole everything in my house right and burned the damn
05:52:32.540
house down and then stole my car right and drained my bank account am i justified then i mean now it's
05:52:41.660
going off topic because we're talking about race and now this is about like answer my question
05:52:45.820
please i was saying that if a person did all that are you justified in killing them like in the act
05:52:51.500
of him doing all of that you want to shoot them yeah okay yeah i think that's totally fine then why
05:52:57.340
is it not fine for a bag of chips all you're doing oh my god it's so different you're like scaling it
05:53:03.260
so all you're doing you're saying a person's life isn't worth
05:53:06.060
uh 50 cents it's worth a hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars you're actually
05:53:13.020
assigning the value of the life to money i'm signing the value of life to bodily harm that's
05:53:19.660
why your position doesn't make any sense and my position does i never said you never sent them a
05:53:24.140
bodily harm because i just said that she didn't show any way of hitting on this call when i'll let
05:53:29.100
you i'll let you come in there's two there's two i have to let come in okay she was a teacher
05:53:33.420
hitting women young boys go to school to learn math hear this trash and learn to hate themselves
05:53:39.980
her brain twisted up in knots she could be trained to believe up his down or anything else
05:53:47.180
hitting women that's terrible why is that your name bro that's only andrew's position just kidding i'm
05:53:54.060
i'm kidding um yeah that just like that make that actually makes no big pull out guy donated
05:53:59.260
two hundred dollars big chair one has the look to attract a man but the neutral position on every
05:54:04.780
topic makes her personality terrible and will not keep a guy that's the point how much want to keep any
05:54:11.580
guy oh nice thank you big black guy i can't believe i just said that out loud um
05:54:18.860
oh going back to the racism thing i have a question if i mean i think i wanted to answer
05:54:27.660
uh sorry i think he mentioned something about bodily harm and then i want to say that that was
05:54:31.820
something that we had not established because in the case of what happened at that at the la or the
05:54:38.140
latasha harland's case was that she didn't show any signs of going to inflict bodily harm or any harm
05:54:43.340
was going to be done on the owner but the owner had just you know done a really rash decision and
05:54:47.820
decided to kill her on the spot and so i agree but that makes your position more inconsistent
05:54:52.940
that makes my position is that yeah it makes your position worse even because your position is you're
05:54:57.980
not allowed to kill somebody over 50 cents but you can't over a couple hundred thousand dollars
05:55:01.820
no no no my position is that you should not kill someone over things then how come if they're taking
05:55:06.700
unless unless they are hypothetical i gave you all they're doing is taking my things and it was okay
05:55:11.660
to kill them in that no you said they were burning down your house what if you were in the house
05:55:15.740
that's a thing no that's a thing that is so for example like people die in fires like your life
05:55:21.580
is at stake i'm out of the house i'm out of the house i i explained that i'm not in the house oh
05:55:26.460
outside okay they burn they burn the house down they steal everything in my bank account they take
05:55:32.220
off with my car yeah leave us in the snow okay i think that you don't have the right to kill them
05:55:37.100
your life is not injured like you're not in direct harm yeah okay because i was assuming you're in the
05:55:42.220
house hang on do i have the right to call the police to come stop them of course what the heck
05:55:47.580
if the police show up and kill them were they justified um i think that the police will face
05:55:53.420
those repercussions but i don't think the police was justified either okay so then all that we've
05:55:57.900
established is that we should let people steal yeah anything that we do to stop people from stealing
05:56:05.340
shit could lead to their death if you try to stop them from stealing shit yeah i don't think it's
05:56:10.300
worth it to kill someone over things uh okay last question bernie made off he took off with the life
05:56:15.500
savings of tens of thousands of people who were dependent on it okay police officers should not have gone
05:56:22.540
and arrested him because it could have led to a standoff in which he died correct um wait i'm very
05:56:30.540
confused so you're saying that the police should not arrest him because the police could kill him
05:56:35.020
or the wait the police i mean i think that it's just stuff i mean if the cops come to arrest you
05:56:41.900
that escalates the situation it could lead to your death
05:56:45.980
it could but it didn't i don't know like it's just like but it could yeah but it could it could
05:56:51.100
and the police and whoever kills him is going to face repercussions for doing that yeah yeah because you've
05:56:57.740
had you have people shoot up schools and they don't like get killed like what the heck no yes
05:57:03.180
they do all the time they don't know unless they surrender unless they can unconditionally
05:57:08.220
surrender drop their weapons and then get and go peaceably but if they shoot at the police guess
05:57:14.700
what the police oh yeah they shoot at the police yes but i'm saying that like i don't know i just
05:57:18.700
think about like all these like school shooting cases i've seen and heard and also experience like
05:57:23.660
the shooter that comes onto the campus i don't see them get shot yeah that's because they do all the
05:57:29.820
time what it happens all the time no wait the school shootings happen but i don't think about i
05:57:35.820
don't i've never heard about school shooters getting shot well what are you talking about
05:57:40.700
i can give you a so much of a list of these various shooters who've been shot in the commission of these
05:57:46.700
crimes i also a lot of them just self-delete before that can even happen if they don't self-delete
05:57:52.540
there's a very high probability they would have been killed by police but the thing is is that the
05:57:56.940
police show quite a lot of restraint in some of these situations because what they do these school
05:58:02.700
shooters who are total cowards and disgusting and pathetic they put down their guns and surrender
05:58:09.740
and that's kind of if you're not an immediate threat your hands are up you've you've surrendered your
05:58:17.740
uh firearm i mean there's still a chance they could get shot but the police are gonna take you
05:58:23.340
into custody and then they're gonna you're gonna face justice in the court system you had a question
05:58:28.780
then i gotta move it on so so just going back to the racism thing really fast if i'm applying for
05:58:33.660
a job any job let's let's call it i'm going in to be an attorney for a certain law firm and there's two
05:58:41.660
candidates i'm one of them and the other woman is black the woman doing the hiring is also black
05:58:48.300
the other candidate applying for the job is less qualified than me came from a worse grad school
05:58:55.980
worse else uh lsat scores everything everything is everything is worse they scored worse on the bar
05:59:01.980
exam and the black woman hires the black candidate over me is that racist um i don't think it's racist
05:59:09.820
because there are people with more highly better stats than like for example like i don't know
05:59:15.100
i think that stats are really irrelevant at the end of the day it's about your experience and the
05:59:18.700
impact that you leave on the interviewer so i don't know about the impact that you left on her and so
05:59:24.380
one last question on this um what do you think about for like do you think it would be racist for
05:59:29.020
example if in order for harvard or another ivy league school to allow more uh like black minorities into
05:59:35.740
university they actually uh reduce the amount of asian candidates that they accept into harvard
05:59:42.220
do you think that that would be a racist policy um i should have debate with my friend about this i
05:59:47.740
end up crying but i don't think it's racist yeah i was on he was on the other side it wouldn't be
05:59:53.980
racist towards asian people i know so asian people if they score really high in the sats and they otherwise
06:00:00.940
uh you know would have gotten in but the university is like we're capped we're capped right is refusing
06:00:10.380
to let them in even though you know via merit they're more deserving of it they're more intelligent
06:00:15.340
whatever it is and they're letting in people who have scored worse in certain uh tests like the sats
06:00:21.900
you don't think that this would be evidence of uh racism towards asian people i think that schools
06:00:27.420
and similar with companies everyone wants diversity and so it's not up to us on what their criteria for
06:00:33.020
diversity is well if it's publicly like a lot of these uh universities receive public funds so i mean
06:00:41.020
you would be discriminating on the basis of uh race in this situation which is not allowed by the united
06:00:47.740
states government so i think in my experience i also was like a college financial coach as well but
06:00:53.900
i do think that um certain schools will reject students that seem too perfect and because they
06:00:59.340
want to make sure that their acceptance rate is like very um competitive so if a student has like
06:01:04.460
these amazing stats they might think that oh if we even we accept this kid there's no way this kid's
06:01:08.380
gonna accept our our acceptance letter anyway so they might reject them out of that so that's actually
06:01:13.260
like uh like a would you be okay if uh you you were applying for a job and you were clearly more
06:01:18.940
qualified but the job was given to somebody else who was clearly less qualified than you and the
06:01:23.740
sole reason they were given the job was because they were uh like a different minority um you'd be
06:01:29.260
fine with that i think i definitely would be fine with it just because like yeah that maybe they have
06:01:33.500
a similar life experience or like they had that candidate had something more aligned with what
06:01:37.820
that employer was looking for like even though because i know friends that like get these senior
06:01:43.100
roles and they have no experience that much experience but like they have like this one thing that they
06:01:47.020
did at like 20 different things that they've done and because of that one experience and now
06:01:51.660
they're able to lead teams where people are like you know double their age yeah i just want to ask
06:01:55.980
one final question so you're in favor of racism against asian people am i in favor of racism against
06:02:01.420
asian people no i'm not what i have a question it seems like you are i have a question oh um so i'm
06:02:09.100
asian but i have a white last name where would i fall um i think that you're you look asian but if
06:02:14.940
you're looking at my resume where would i fall uh i think that i don't if you wait what do you tick
06:02:20.860
on the box though yeah i tick asian but if you're just looking at bailey slaughter what would like
06:02:26.780
what what would you say i will say you're a recruiter i mean if you take asian then you're asian yeah but
06:02:32.940
you're up blackbird donated 200 thank you blackbird i think one more time i swear also chair one
06:02:45.820
sup ma exclamation mark dot dot dot lol oh he's he said sup ma what's that mean do you want to say
06:02:54.620
something back to blackbird look into this camera give him a wink i am a virgin what
06:02:59.900
okay oh i don't i didn't mean to trigger it twice um santa claus really quick bailey go ahead
06:03:10.780
quick questions i gotta move it on you have something for oh okay go ahead i think yeah go
06:03:15.740
ahead my last question for you is can you just give us one example of something that you would consider
06:03:20.060
racist can i get one example of something that would be racism to you um i think it's because based
06:03:26.380
on my race then even though it's like a okay so what happened to me as a teacher the reason why i
06:03:31.580
no longer teach is because something happened to me and i felt like it was really racist actually
06:03:36.220
and we're both minorities in this case but a situation happened where both of our family
06:03:40.620
members had passed away um two weeks apart actually um and then she was able to get one month off and i
06:03:46.780
only got and i actually got in trouble for even asking for a day off and so i felt like that experience
06:03:52.620
in itself was racist and the principal has sent out a newsletter saying like oh this teacher's
06:03:58.060
family member had passed so we need to like give her our condolences like say like you know help her
06:04:03.500
out whatever but then in my experience like they're like oh sorry you don't have enough pto just because
06:04:08.060
i'm actually curious um what was the was it a race part it was the race i'm asian no no hold on
06:04:15.900
hold on hold on hold on hold on who died for you uh uncle uncle who died for them uh i have no idea
06:04:23.100
they wouldn't disclose that so maybe it was like their husband or their they weren't married they
06:04:27.580
were so she was okay a father a mom they wouldn't disclose it so i don't know yeah well then you can't
06:04:33.500
make any determination here because like i'm not trying to be insensitive towards your uncle but like
06:04:38.300
a cousin three times removed i think is like less of a grievance than like your mom your father but
06:04:46.380
i was just asking to go to the funeral so i asked to go to the funeral can i get a day off to go to
06:04:51.100
the funeral i'm not asking for like a week off a much of uh like a fp mpra i'm not asking for that
06:04:58.220
which is what she had asked so there was unfair treatment i think it was unfair so you didn't get to
06:05:02.060
go to the funeral no i went and when i came back the repercussions were i got fired yeah
06:05:08.140
but okay what does it have to do what what does it have to do they actually say the termination
06:05:13.580
was for the what sorry what did they actually say you were terminated for um they said it was for
06:05:19.740
a month prior a kid has shown a tiktok video to the class and i didn't stop him and the tiktok video
06:05:25.340
was lionel messi kicking off soccer ball so they put inappropriate use of social media in the classroom
06:05:30.940
because they couldn't fire me for that yeah okay so what you're doing is just making this up right
06:05:37.340
i'm not making this up because it was my experience you were fired for a legitimate reason
06:05:42.540
and then you're saying no i just think that they were trying to get revenge against me because i
06:05:47.580
went to a funeral oh but like what actually demonstrates that other than you just uh because
06:05:53.580
i didn't have any problems with admin or anything like legality wise until i'd asked to go to that
06:05:59.820
funeral and then when i came back from that funeral so it was on a friday and so i stayed in la friday
06:06:05.660
saturday sunday and i flew back to sf and then when i flew back and the first day of school like
06:06:10.860
they were like oh miss ivy weren't taking to like the office and then they said that you're not allowed
06:06:14.700
to like talk to anyone we're putting you on administrative leave so that's what happened
06:06:19.340
and then when i come back from my ministry wait hold on hold on hold on yeah a couple questions here so
06:06:26.140
did you ask to get the time off and they told you no and you went anyways yes i said i was sick i called in sick
06:06:32.540
okay um so i used my sick days yeah what and so why do you come to the conclusion that it has anything
06:06:44.860
to do with race oh so what happened was i thought the treatment was unfair okay yeah yeah sure i'm gonna
06:06:51.420
i'll go ahead and grant it was unfair how did you come to the conclusion it has anything to do with race
06:06:56.220
i okay this is my experience so i don't want to like generalize that this is like i just think
06:07:01.980
that what happened to me i felt like it was racist because the principle okay the principle was afro
06:07:08.060
latina and then the co-worker was afro latina that's it and i was asian i have a question what's your
06:07:14.700
stance on affirmative action where's the racism part wait she i think she's like saying there was
06:07:20.700
favoritism yeah to this other race and she got less favorable treatment but it's still that that
06:07:26.060
wouldn't indicate that there's actually any racism i mean i just think that because of so like what if
06:07:31.340
they just liked the other person more had nothing to do with race that could be it but i talked around
06:07:38.060
to other teachers and another asian teacher a grade below me she taught fourth grade she taught math
06:07:44.460
and she was also asian and then she had another teacher that was teaching english and he was
06:07:50.780
black and then what i heard from her experience was like oh yeah miss ivy like i heard about what
06:07:54.780
happened with your family i'm so sorry but i'll be honest like the just you know this happened to me
06:07:59.740
where i showed up to school with 108 degree fever and i wasn't allowed to go home meanwhile my co-teacher
06:08:05.660
got a week off sorry i don't know what the fever was but she had a bad fever and she asked to go home
06:08:10.220
and she wasn't allowed to but meanwhile the co-teacher was able to take a week off to go to
06:08:14.940
japan for vacation so that's why i'm just because wait just this demonstrates a racial element okay
06:08:22.300
sorry he was able but just but just speak like let me ask you a question bad thing happens to black
06:08:28.620
person did that bad thing happen because the person was black no okay i because i don't know what that
06:08:37.100
but like just because something bad happens to you and you happen to be whether you're white black
06:08:43.500
asian latino doesn't matter you can't immediately jump to it happened because i'm of my race it
06:08:50.700
happened because of racism i would need some sort of evidence yeah yeah what was the uh what was the
06:08:56.860
tiktok video it was she said it was messy yeah kicking soccer ball so the kid did like an edit and it
06:09:05.100
was a month prior and during that time actually an admin was in my class to watch because i had
06:09:11.020
like a they were doing a walkthrough and so they saw that i you know i was showing that and then so
06:09:16.620
they didn't say anything to me after that like they didn't say that was wrong nothing and so it's so
06:09:20.860
funny that month later they had said like oh that was the read that's the reason why you're getting
06:09:25.580
fired now even though i didn't get so an administrator was coming through your class and inspecting it
06:09:31.580
yeah saw that something was inappropriate which was happening launched an investigation after the
06:09:37.420
investigation was done right when you came back from this trip they coincidentally fired you for a
06:09:42.940
legitimate reason no i think you're getting the timeline wrong i think you're getting the timeline
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wrong i'm saying that the month ago this had happened and then a month later right between this
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between the video being shown and between me getting fired was a month apart they launched an
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investigation two days before they had fired me i mean sorry two days before they fired me so then
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like it was like not related at all right but then they need a reason all right that's cool um i have
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to move on to the next thing so uh are men the primary victims of war to which i think it's only you
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you or actually callie you uh say no and then ivy you say no why is that well um
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oh what was the question i'm so sorry it's okay ivy ivy was listening go ahead
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uh i think she might have a good answer i feel like i talked a lot no she didn't hear it
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after i listen okay so i think that in war i think women and children are the primary victims
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of war yeah question let's remove children from it who's the primary victim of war men or women
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um that's tough because i guess i guess it i guess there'll be more casualties with men
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so men in that case i was thinking about women and children combined yeah okay well let's just
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split it why do women immediately get the social status of children i mean just because like we
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think about people that were able to fight in wars back then and then the ones that carried weapons and
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were able to fight were men because they were sexist they're saying because you think that's
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wait you think that's bad i mean no i didn't say it's bad no no sorry so i'm using sexism as in a
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term where it doesn't include power now so i'm using but wouldn't this sexist sexism benefit women
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a sexist feminism no this you said it's sexist that women couldn't fight i mean it's like back
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then maybe there were some women that wanted to fight and they couldn't and they couldn't don't
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you think that's privilege isn't that privilege i guess is it privilege a woman can't fight in wars
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yeah they yeah i think so to protect you yeah to protect you i wouldn't want to go to the military
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but so i'm just confused here you said uh between men so if it's just men and women you think it's
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men that are the primary victims of war but if you include children then it's women and children
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women and children yeah because like i think that like oh sorry yes why so i think that you know
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during wars like a lot happened like i don't know you because i watched like human rights film and
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like you know the rape of like nanking and stuff like that like you learn a lot about like comfort
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women being used in like all these asian countries japan korea vietnam um you know and you just think
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like oh wow like women and children are being used like it was like you know underage children so i
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think that uh men being used men were like fighting each other yes also the infirm and elderly and the
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ones who couldn't fight were used experimentally just like women were in those particular instances
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that you're talking about like nanking but let me ask you this question let me ask it in reverse
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who's a primary victim of war uh men and children or women um i think i already said men so men and
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children then right yeah yeah children yeah i don't know i just didn't understand why why children
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instantly get lumped in with women i know right i think that always happens like when you're evacuating
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it's like women and children first i like i think that so female that's that whole chivalry thing
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that yeah i guess so yeah yeah yeah like a carryover yeah yeah yeah um well yeah so i mean
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definitely bad things absolutely do happen to women in war that are kind of more specifically gendered
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when it comes to their victimization but uh even going ahead and granting that and yes of course
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absolutely terrible um how can you and also one typically the war front is pretty far away women have
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time to like escape that uh sometimes like invading armies if they're moving really quickly they can
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go through so like civil uh areas of civilization where there are still popular there's still like
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civilian population um but i mean you see this especially like world war ii when the russians were
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going through germany but so but so so so so what well i mean what where do you um like would you if
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if you could put a hundred men to death to prevent one woman from being uh s-aid would you do it
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what who am i my girl or guy i'm confused oh am i like the person in power that's like doing this like
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if you had to put a hundred men to death to prevent one woman from getting s-aid would you do it i think
06:14:30.780
that um you know what what does that call i forgot what it's called but there's a word for it but
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it's like you want to have the greatest amount of good for like the greatest amount of people and
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i think in that case it's like a hundred men versus one woman yeah so what's your answer so
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the the hundred men you would i would not kill them brenda it seemed like you actually had a
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position on this oh no i'm sorry would you kill the hundred men i was just fidgeting i'm sorry but
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would you kill the hundred men to save one woman from essay would i kill 100 men to save one woman
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i wouldn't kill anyone you if you had to choose
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i don't know i can't i can't kill i wouldn't kill anyone you have to choose though
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who says a woman is getting killed she just said he just said essay
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who's saying the woman's getting killed no no he's don't confuse it more uh which one did you pick
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yeah well you're wait wait no no no no no hold on hold on just a button just push a button 100
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men die or a woman gets essayed it's hard for me to push the button because one person eventually
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gets hurt and one person eventually 100 people versus one person they either or people yet end
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up getting hurt because i've been essayed before so it's hard for me to to make that decision to like
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have that happen i know it's a hypothetical it's just i think this is like digital footprint you
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know what i mean so it's like i can't make that decision
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so you would let 100 men die then i never said that well if you had to pick one
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i can't pick i'm sorry i'm not juicy right now for this how about let me make it simpler would you
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send 100 innocent men to prison to prevent one man from walking free who 100 essayed a woman
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yeah but are they gonna get like the dad's penalty no no but uh they spend three years
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do they do anything they spend three years but they do anything to put themselves in prison or
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they're innocent okay let me repeat the question i'll repeat the question would you send 100 innocent
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men to prison for three years to prevent one man from walking free who 100 percent provably
06:16:52.140
essayed a woman first of all i'm sorry for getting you frustrated it's okay
06:16:57.660
well yeah i just i said yeah i said yeah i would send them 100 innocent men how about a thousand
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i don't i'm not good with these i i don't i don't it's hard for me what's the limit it's hard i don't
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know it's hard for me to to like yes i know it's hard to answer the question
06:17:21.420
what i don't understand what's hard about it you you answered it for a hundred well it's hard because i i
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think about my digital footprint and like i also what is what is your definition of essay
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what do you mean oh i mean i'm just using that as a filler for grape i know that no but i'm asking
06:17:38.220
her like what is it like you were held at knife point by some random guy or like i mean i'm just
06:17:43.500
asking her personally hang on the granular details there we can't really discuss because the nature of
06:17:48.060
the program oh okay um i don't think i don't think anybody's particularly confused about i did have
06:17:52.620
one question for you though chair one i do tend to ask this a lot how would you feel if you didn't
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eat breakfast this morning i would feel hungry because yeah i like to eat so you can't engage with
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hypotheticals i'm sorry so you can't engage with hypotheticals the ones where i could put myself in that
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position like i what do you mean digital footprint like what's the what what is this digital footprint
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thing what does that mean oh well this is going on the internet and if if i truly don't believe
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like in a serious like like these topics are serious you know what i mean and if i truly like
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can't answer it with like the full capability that that i should answer these serious topics with and
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i'm not going to do that because then well you did i mean you you won't say a thousand men but you did
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say you'd send a hundred innocent men because i could comprehend that and i'm just like what's that quote
06:18:50.620
about better to let like a hundred i don't know what is it anybody know what i'm talking about
06:18:58.060
better to let a hundred uh guilty oh better to let like a hundred guilty men walk free than to jail
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like to uh deliver injustice to one innocent person something like that but okay but you said it was in
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i thought you said that the guy who the guy actually did something he did do it yeah okay no so in this
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scenario it's almost the inverse so it's better to let a hundred guilty men go than to imprison one
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innocent person and that's actually i think the basis for the united states criminal justice
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uh system bailey what do you think about this one would you send a hundred innocent men to prison to
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prevent one man from walking free who 100 essayed a woman um in my opinion no i would not i would um
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i would save the innocent men but that that's my opinion where did ivy go we were talking about the
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primary victims of war um interesting uh and then there's a super chat coming for her in just a sec
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well while we're doing that by the way blackbird she's gone from the table so i'm waiting for your
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message to i apologize for the delay uh let's do a couple shout outs here real quick read is 100 tts
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man appreciate it uh okay let's see here uh we have do we have anything there's a few more but i'll
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wait until ivy's back so we have uh let's see why don't we get finish up the pre-show notes uh we did
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everything for brinda everything for cali uh oh patrice we need to still do yours uh let's see
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uh worst breakup of your lives worst uh you were a fine dining waitress you also strip strip club
06:21:04.460
bartender yeah i'm off the fine line and you're so your ex-fiancee asked you requested for you to
06:21:10.940
stop doing that into the mic closer to the mic yeah all of it quit everything quit all my jobs move
06:21:15.500
be with him travel with him travel with him for work everything just drop it and i i did you know what
06:21:21.580
really quick going back to you brinda like at least with the killing one don't you almost think
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not answering like wouldn't that almost have a worse impact on your digital footprint because
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it seems so obvious that the answer ought to be like i'm gonna save a hundred people from death
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death look uh essay's fucking terrible it's a disgusting crime but like a hundred dead people
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like yeah it's really like like oh would you rather save your son or your daughter it's like a really
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fucked up hard thing to think about right yeah no i i hear where you come from and i i think it's because
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i it's not so when i say digital footprint it's not that i care what people think from like from like
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their perspectives it's um i'm answering is what it's with what aligns with how i feel about myself
06:22:15.740
and if i don't know if i don't know the answer to the question then and someone wants to view
06:22:20.540
me not answering it in in that way then cool because like that that i don't care but um i'm
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just i'm not gonna answer it because that's what aligns with what's inside of here yeah but if you i
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guess what i'm trying to say is if you do have an answer but you're like i don't want to share the
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answer because i'm worried about the digital firm no i just don't know i just i but i think people can make
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an inference by like the refusal to answer the question like that could be almost worse i don't
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know anyways whatever another big thing and then it's worse but i just it's because i just don't
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know i can't answer it uh patrice can you read this for us actually no alina you you need to talk go
06:22:58.140
ahead speak chair i can't really see chair one you don't realize it but you're fascist it is better to
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let 10 guilty free than to imprison one innocent man this is the foundation of western justice that
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is the foundation of western justice your lack of education shows do you want to respond to
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christopher thank you christopher the hundred i would say like thanks for um thanks for like the
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information and yeah maybe i should go home and i should learn some more think about it think about
06:23:29.100
ivy we need you back we have a chat for you somebody wants to say something to you ivy
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blackbird donated 200 ivy just be talking like that girl let the girls next to you get a chance
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to speak too you just keep talking and talking oh shit i know i talk a lot but that's why i was like
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oh let her talk let her answer the question wait so fine just really quick on the primary victims of
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war thing uh men or women um i think it was like men or women i think i said you said women and
06:24:08.620
children oh then men yeah okay yeah i guess one final i i mean you've already maybe you've changed
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your position on this but like would you say that for example if a woman is going through birth and
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there's a lot of physical pain uh what do you think she's the primary i wouldn't call her a victim but
06:24:26.780
like she's the primary sufferer of physical pain but as a man watching your wife give birth that could
06:24:34.700
be difficult and you would suffer too to some degree seeing her in physical pain so do you think the man is
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the primary victim of or primary sufferer of the pregnancy no what the heck oh no she squeezed my
06:24:51.260
hand really hard when she was giving birth you know this actually was a video with this two beautiful
06:24:56.700
couple in la like but the girl was like filming the husband because he was crying so much and she was
06:25:01.900
like dude it's not even as painful as him like seeing him cry like she wasn't crying but he was crying a lot and so i think that reminds me of what you say but i think overall that was just like a very special case
06:25:11.420
uh just a few more of these we won't be able to hit all of them do women have equal rights to men in the usa brinda
06:25:16.620
you marked both so i don't really know is that like a maybe um yeah i think because i i had listened to
06:25:25.820
this podcast of how like um like rights have like changed but i just i said maybe because i don't know
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oh okay uh patrice you say yes uh callie you say no ivy you say no uh
06:25:47.580
bailey says she says yes stephanie you say yes so i think it's just callie ivy
06:26:01.900
i'm your friend uh so i guess really quick like uh you think women don't have equal rights to
06:26:10.940
men in the united states how so um i don't think that uh how do you say i said that right but i
06:26:19.020
would say i can't think about specific laws right because i i didn't really study that but i think about
06:26:24.700
the experience experience yeah i think it's really about experience and i think that maybe it's like
06:26:29.900
more like a not what was it it's like more of a de facto law like you know a society law like rather
06:26:35.980
than a de jure law made by like our government um and which i will i would say like maybe women aren't
06:26:42.300
given the same equal rights as men de facto wise not de jure yeah what's an example um an example would be
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can't think of one right now oh gosh um i think about overall i guess i guess i'm thinking about
06:27:02.060
more about back then like um i think about my grandparents like my grandma wasn't allowed to
06:27:08.140
like read or write like this like in her wherever she grew up like they just didn't let women read
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or write but then men in the united states i know she didn't but this yeah she grew up where she grew
06:27:19.980
up in like a small village in vietnam i mean look i don't know the specifics of the vietnamese policy in
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the but we didn't say equal rights in the united states did we it is in the united states yes it says it
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says yes in the united states oh i didn't read that it says equal rights so i guess in america
06:27:40.380
i can't think of one so i guess i will have to default you said it was your grandma yeah she
06:27:44.140
couldn't she wasn't able to learn was it wasn't that also the case for like most of the peasantry
06:27:51.580
in like almost all countries like i would say most of the men were illiterate too
06:27:57.740
i think that it's like different because my grandpa and her came from the same social class
06:28:01.500
class but like wait how how's your grandma this is your grandma yeah my grandma in vietnam yeah she's
06:28:06.940
like 60. 65. so how old was she in the late 1960s do you know when she was born i actually have no
06:28:16.860
idea wait i don't even know her birthday we don't talk about that vietnam was like late 60s early 70s
06:28:22.540
right are you talking about the war yeah but i don't know if they would have been how old's your
06:28:26.460
grandpa uh my grandpa is like 70 70. so wait 70. how old would he have been during vietnam the vietnam
06:28:36.540
war i think he was probably like 35. hold on 30. no hey guys i just want to let you know it was nice
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to meet all of you i appreciate it coming on this fine fine evening and having this great discussion
06:28:51.740
you're all very very kind tonight thank you andrew that felt like we had some really good back and
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force and uh it was nice to meet all of you andrew thank you uh for joining us shoot us over a raid
06:29:01.420
appreciate it man thank you thank you gotcha take thank you good night uh so i wait maybe the chat's
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going to be able to tell me this chat do you have the number how old how old would the grand grandfather
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be at this age i don't know 15 was he would he have been vc i don't know or not vc the uh it's
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vietnam that that's the yeah yeah it would have been he would have been like the nva or wait hold
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on am i getting i'm getting my shit mixed up my family was not really involved in the war yeah it's
06:29:33.100
like there's people like neutral but they were in vietnam yeah they're in vietnam yeah you don't have to
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pick a side you can just yeah but i don't know if it's like okay my mom she couldn't read and write but
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like my dad was getting education no he's getting like gunned down by vcs yeah but again i said my
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family didn't uh participate in the war i don't know if it was my the choice was between like living in
06:29:55.260
a tunnel in the jungle of vietnam versus not being able to read i think i and then just like getting
06:30:02.780
fucking napalmed by the united states government but fucking agent orange and shit no yeah sure there was
06:30:09.340
indiscriminate yeah there's indiscriminate napalm bombing yeah in the vietnam war but it's like
06:30:13.900
they were like a little more insulated more more protected so i mean i think it's kind of probably
06:30:20.060
worse like yeah your grandma couldn't like read and write or wasn't allowed to do that i don't even
06:30:25.740
know what the case is there but like your grandpa was like getting napalmed like what no again my my
06:30:32.700
grandpa did not find no i'm not saying that he would have maybe he would have been of the age where he
06:30:37.820
would have been oh he was of the age he's way older like than that like when the war ended i
06:30:42.860
think they had my mom at that time so like they were able to i mean the war was like what 10 years
06:30:48.460
i think it was a long time yeah so i don't know 10 years maybe they were like above yeah they were
06:30:53.820
like 16 yeah they're probably 16 so they probably would have been able to fight but he didn't
06:30:59.740
well wait if you were 20 in 1970 that would make you 75 yeah so i guess he's 75 we don't really
06:31:10.380
celebrate his birthday so i don't know how old he is he's like 70 75 yeah we don't keep track so
06:31:15.100
he would have been fighting age during the vietnam war yeah i said that he was supposed to yeah i don't
06:31:18.860
know look your your grandma couldn't she wasn't allowed to learn how to read and write your grandpa
06:31:24.620
was of the fighting age where he was getting he well i don't know what side of the fucking conflict
06:31:29.100
no no again they didn't pick us like they were just like affected by the war like they were just
06:31:33.420
trying to not get killed right but there were vietnamese there were like vietnamese fighting on
06:31:37.900
both sides uh no it's like i think it's a majority of people like in any war-torn country like you can
06:31:43.740
think about like in germany like are they fighting like actively fighting or there's people that are just
06:31:49.020
living and going about their daily lives yeah but i feel like being forced to fight in a war is worse
06:31:53.500
than not being allowed to learn how to read or write no one was forcing my grandpa to fight in
06:31:57.740
a war you're saying there wasn't a military conscription in vietnam i mean it depends on
06:32:02.060
what side of vietnam you lived in i'm look i'm not an expert in the vietnamese conflict i'm pretty sure
06:32:07.980
whether you're vc i don't know if the the other side is called the nva i'm pretty sure there's military
06:32:13.660
conscription yeah they were like taking boys and like sending them off to like fight oh that's
06:32:17.820
oh they're sending boys were they sending girls oh that's even worse thank you for bringing that up
06:32:22.620
yeah they're sending child child soldiers that's even and they were just boys right yeah oh that's
06:32:28.620
what what were the the children uh girls doing i don't know they're probably forcing them to like
06:32:34.540
they weren't getting napalmed they're probably forcing them to become comfort women and yeah the
06:32:39.740
most famous picture of getting napalm was like of that girl running you know so she's here in the
06:32:45.180
states now yeah good talk um all right i gotta move it on to uh i think maybe this is the final
06:32:53.740
one are women oppressed in the united states to which uh i think it's just you guys again
06:33:02.380
ivy you said yes women are oppressed in the united states why are they oppressed
06:33:05.580
why that why are they oppressed yeah why women how how are women oppressed i guess maybe it's about
06:33:11.260
our experience i mean because i grew up in a very asian family where my mom was like you have to do
06:33:16.060
this because you're a woman and so that's why i think i had that experience where i think women are
06:33:19.900
getting oppressed yeah but like isn't there a massive amount of pressure on men in asian families
06:33:27.180
i don't know they get treated like royalty what are you talking about you got to succeed
06:33:30.780
same with me i have to succeed everyone has to succeed to be from an asian family regardless of
06:33:34.460
gender okay yeah who's the main provider usually in an asian family um in vietnamese families it was
06:33:42.220
funny women because the men are bad with money really vietnamese culture yeah i think because of
06:33:48.380
some trauma or whatever but like usually it's like a common thing where like vietnamese dads will
06:33:54.060
like gamble and be very abusive and the moms work at nail salons to provide for the whole family
06:33:59.100
yeah uh well here maybe i can that's like very racist i mean that's a stereotype would you say
06:34:04.460
when it comes to the oppression do you think the gender pay gap is evidence of female oppression um
06:34:09.740
yeah i guess there are instances of i mean i you know in my experience do i feel like there's gender
06:34:15.260
gay i said yes because like yeah you believe in the i did say i believe in it just because in my
06:34:20.300
experience i don't i haven't had that experience where like i get paid less because i'm female
06:34:24.940
but i just read about these other people's experiences and i think that overall i cannot
06:34:29.580
you know yeah say i'm like oh i guess there is like a gender pay gap i don't think there is like
06:34:35.820
like think about i think like people in like director roles and stuff like you see mainly men and like
06:34:41.660
these like high level positions of like their ceo directors and so i think that these um opportunities
06:34:47.980
where you can grow within a company oftentimes are given to males and i think like coming from
06:34:52.780
asia why do you say given why don't you say earned oh i mean it's like yeah yeah earned i earned earned
06:34:59.580
by males yeah you know well do you think that maybe you think it's just given to men on a no i don't
06:35:04.460
think so i think they definitely have to earn it like not just like any guy can get this like level
06:35:08.940
position but i would say yeah they definitely earned it but maybe there are some women that were like
06:35:13.740
overlook for that role because of their gender yeah could be i would lean more towards they earned
06:35:19.020
it okay they earned it i don't i don't actually dispute there that there's a greater proportion
06:35:23.980
i mean the data reflects this there is a greater proportion of men that are more in positions of
06:35:29.420
power or who have these kind of more lucrative jobs and corporations executives so forth um but it's
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not clear to me if it was handed to well it isn't it's not the case that it's handed to them simply
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because they're men no yeah yeah no man they definitely have the credentials they're able
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to but maybe if it's like a woman or a guy like up for the same role maybe they might be leaning to
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give it to a guy but i i there's a lot of ways to approach the gender wage gap discourse but i think
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one of the most interesting novel ones that i don't really hear other people talking about this besides
06:36:01.340
me to be honest is uh the social and mating pressure component here so didn't you say you want a
06:36:08.540
guy to pay for the first date okay do you want a guy to provide for you like in a relationship you
06:36:13.500
want a guy that like second third date you want a guy to pay for the date those dates okay yeah and
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then like you you want kids right uh yeah i think so okay and so do you want to take time off work
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um to when you have kids i think it's like yeah like you said go ask the question like who is providing
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then because like if you know the guy is like doing all this and yeah yeah so i guess like yeah
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i think that's important to take off time do my friends like they get maternity leave for their
06:36:43.500
little dogs like you should have it for kids too but so
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in your own personal life even though it seems like you're maybe a bit more
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more would you consider yourself more liberal progressive i don't know i guess i guess liberal
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i guess progressive yeah okay but you still want a man to kind of be traditional in some
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ways like pay for dates etc uh i want just to bring in the entire panel here we're i'm gonna ask you
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like 10 different questions i just want show of hands for each uh are you attracted to men with status
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show of hands status raise them high raise them high so we can see oh no uh raise your other hand
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just because we're on this camera subconsciously though i do do okay uh are you attracted to men
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who are successful show of hands are you attracted to men who make a lot of money
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is that yeah initiative do you have have you ever asked a guy out on the first date
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um on a first date i don't think i've ever asked a guy out and it's like this is a date it's like oh
06:38:03.820
let's hang out and i don't know if it was a date or not like it was just like oh let's get let's hang
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out like to because i like because when i first moved to la i just wanted to hang out with like
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a lot of people uh do you want a man to make the first move for everybody show of hands
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make the first move okay uh do you want a man to plan the date
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the first one yes yeah do you want a man to pay for the first date show of hands
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no for you brinda uh do you want a man to go for the first kiss
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like they should ask for permission right that would make it a little bit not sexy
06:38:39.900
oh really okay uh do you want a man to move things forward physically beyond just a kiss so
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sex yeah uh do you want a man to go 50 50 do you want to go 50 50 with a man financially
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do you want a man to take care of all the bills
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wish wish do you want do you want to take do you want to take a few years off work when you have
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kids um years is a long time years uh but years is a long time how about the cut do you want to take
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months off work yeah yeah final one uh do you want to be a stay-at-home mom while your husband works
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okay so you see all these show show of hands right i'll relate this to one the gender pay gap and
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then two why men hold these positions of uh these executive positions leadership positions more so in
06:39:39.980
company couldn't it just be the case that because when it comes to romance and dating we're just
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more experienced because of your own preferences like all the things i just listed leader take
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charge initiative plan for first dates these would all translate to leadership positions we're more
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practiced in making the first move taking initiative being leaders in our personal private
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lives when it comes to romantic relationships i think that this is going to translate itself to being
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more and i'm more attractive to employers so if you practice a certain like trait uh
06:40:32.780
like you're going to become good at it women don't have that same ability to practice for certain
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traits that are deemed valuable in the corporate world in their romantic life so for example for
06:40:47.580
example and i'll let you come in just a sec uh somebody who's a skateboarder if they could become
06:40:54.220
really good at skateboarding that's going to translate to like snowboarding or surfing other board sports
06:41:01.180
so i don't know it just seems to me like or maybe like you're a really good swimmer that's going to
06:41:06.620
translate in a couple different ways you're going to be really you're going to be better at surfing
06:41:10.780
because surfing requires paddling so these skills that men develop in romantic pursuits lends themselves
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to the corporate world and in addition to that in addition to that you all want you all said you're
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attracted to men with status successful make money leaders you're attracted to all those traits
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so you reward men who develop those traits that translate to the corporate world men don't
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really care about your status your success your money it might be a nice little bonus but i don't
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think it makes you actually more attractive to men and so when it comes to the gender pay gap or men
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occupying there's a men are more likely to occupy these positions uh executive positions
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it's because of you guys it's because of women oh you exert a mating pressure on men that we don't
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exert on you like i would never a girl doesn't want to pay for the first date okay i don't care oh you
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can't you're broke i don't care you're hot and broke don't care uh oh you work at chick-fil-a and
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i'm an i'm an attorney don't care really but like a female attorney you think she's gonna date the guy
06:42:35.420
who works at chick-fil-a even if he's handsome i don't think so i don't think so and so we just value
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different things so i think the wage gap just be completely explained away by by that you put such
06:42:50.220
a massive mating pressure on men they have to earn more they have to work harder because we we both
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have to survive men and women that's that's a huge motivating factor
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can y'all still get laid if you're broke king guys yes some broke guys yeah whatever but like
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if the guy's not gonna take if the if 50 of the women are like the guy has to pay for the first date
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that's a massive mating pressure like oh i have to as a guy we're not just thinking about our survival
06:43:29.100
we're thinking in order for me to attract a woman i need status i need money i need success i don't
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think that probably crosses your like you probably don't think about like when it comes to attracting
06:43:40.940
men you don't think like the first step i gotta do or one of the steps i gotta do is like i gotta get
06:43:46.140
my money right before i can get a dude yeah i don't think you guys think that yeah oh you think that
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yeah well it's not to get a dude it's because eventually like if i have if i am on pursuit to my
06:43:56.140
goals eventually i will attract a man who is also on pursuit to his goals but like i i do recognize
06:44:02.940
that like it is a little bit unconventional to like feel that way but that that's i was gonna ask
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you the question if like do you feel as if like it is pressure on the male if the woman is also putting
06:44:14.540
pressure on herself and that's just what she wants in a relationship she wants she wants she wants someone
06:44:20.860
who's going to be a leader and and have these like ceo um traits because um she as well like
06:44:27.660
wants to learn and wants to have that do you feel like that is also putting pressure on the woman no
06:44:35.020
like like like like in her situation is that her is is that putting pressure on on males that she's
06:44:41.660
also putting pressure on herself like wouldn't that make it equal if she's putting what pressure
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on herself um to have status to have money to have whatever yes i mean but it it wouldn't be for
06:44:55.980
romantic reasons like she wouldn't be like she'd be doing it for her own ambition her own ambition
06:45:02.620
but like the ambition is not fueled by like if i don't do x i won't be able to get a man i don't
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think that thought crosses women's head but like as a guy you're thinking about that all the time and
06:45:17.740
like one of the considerations huh oh sorry oh you don't have to apologize but like as a guy oh you're
06:45:24.780
wait okay sorry sorry default i'm sorry it's okay like as men we are considering like okay
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if i want to look economically financially attractive to a woman i have to be this successful i have to
06:45:38.860
make this much money i want to provide for a girl there's like maybe let's say it's 20 of women
06:45:45.420
want to be stay at home stay at home that means that if they want that 20 of the men have to make
06:45:53.340
enough money to be able to provide that for the woman so that's going to create such a significant
06:45:58.460
pressure on men to do that and then there's just downstream of that okay maybe she doesn't want
06:46:04.540
to be stay at home mom she wants guys to pay for dates she doesn't want to pay for dates massive
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amount of social and mating pressure exerted from women to men yeah so it's interesting to hear that
06:46:20.060
because like in the area that i grew up um it was like very like like low like low income so
06:46:26.380
a lot of the times it was always 50 50 or it was always even sometimes i've had had friends who
06:46:32.780
have taken care of their partners um so like that's that's that's what i that's where i come from of
06:46:38.860
like seeing that and then i also seen the most extreme because i got into it of just like having a
06:46:43.340
male like fully take care um of a woman so it's just it's it's just interesting to hear that it's
06:46:49.100
like uh the kind of like embedded in like society it's like to to to feel the need to feel like you
06:46:55.260
have to do that in order to gain or to have a relationship yeah all right we're gonna do a roast
06:47:02.860
session here 20 uh we'll do 20 dollars we're gonna do 20 dollar roast session uh roast away let me get
06:47:10.460
that all set up though any uh there's a few more notes that we need to get through but any thoughts
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from any of the panelists any topics you want to hit on maybe men are pissing you off in some way
06:47:19.260
you want to ask for advice i don't know uh anybody any but we're on air i do want to ask for advice
06:47:26.860
oh yeah what is it huh oh what you want to ask for advice go ahead do it okay okay i'm gonna do it
06:47:40.380
so so there's this guy who um i had we had seen each other uh twice and he's a guy who i asked out
06:47:48.700
and um i went to it with the intention that you know like i'm not in a place today and i'm not
06:47:56.540
gonna make the assumption that he is so i just wanted to like you know just like enjoy his company
06:48:01.980
i was really energetically attracted to him and it was the first time i ever felt this way so i um
06:48:07.820
really wanted to go out i had a product drop and i wanted to celebrate and i wanted to celebrate with
06:48:11.740
him and um i took him out to dinner and i paid for his dinner and um then he sends me like this text
06:48:19.820
um about like trying to like cut it off saying like i think we'll be just better off friends
06:48:24.300
but our friends but our friends and then i told him like what my stance was i was like okay like i
06:48:28.060
i totally understand your boundaries i thought we were just friends too um blah blah blah blah and
06:48:33.340
then he takes it back he's like oh actually i didn't know that you you felt this way actually like
06:48:39.820
okay that like we're good with where we're at and my question is um this is the first time where like
06:48:46.380
i've ever felt okay to like um contribute financially like in any type of like um like
06:48:54.860
obviously we're not in a relationship but just any type of like something that could be something
06:48:59.820
and i'm not attached to that feeling but i just know that okay so if we go with the flow like whatever
06:49:03.900
happens happens but because i did that i just i feel like maybe it might have scared him and i'd last
06:49:10.460
thing i want is to scare like a man away um so i was my advice my need for advice would be like
06:49:19.820
do i need to like lay back and not be so kind of like not assertive but um like i don't know like like
06:49:29.820
like do these things that society states a man should do if i if i want if a man wants to be with
06:49:39.580
you you'll know if a man men are hunt like we do live hunter-gatherer that it's biology if a man wants
06:49:47.020
you he will chase you if a man wants you he will let you know if a man wants to talk to you he will
06:49:51.580
text you if a man wants to be with you he will take the initiative to be with you a men a man who
06:49:56.780
actually wants you isn't going to play a game with you on this texting back and forth like
06:50:02.700
like oh today we're just friends but now because you said we're just friends now i want more
06:50:06.700
if a man wants you you will know i love that i agree with that thank you for sharing that was so
06:50:12.700
powerful like we touched on the subject earlier that men don't really express their emotions and
06:50:18.940
how like we tend to cry the most so i think whenever a guy decides to express their feelings and
06:50:24.620
say that they want to take you serious that we should uh like be like okay well he decided to
06:50:29.900
actually like express to me like about his feelings so therefore he must actually want me oh i don't
06:50:35.100
know that's a hot take it's like guys are you know they can be manipulative too they can fear that you're
06:50:40.060
leaving and they're like oh shoot i don't want to be alone so they can just say whatever they want
06:50:44.060
or you know say anything just to get you back but i think that yeah if you if he wants you like you
06:50:48.860
definitely would feel it by his actions not only his words but also his actions as well what made you want to pay for
06:50:54.300
dinner is he like a brokie no it was just i was was celebrating a product dropped and um i just
06:51:00.060
wanted to say i'd like to take care of the people that are around me and um i didn't do it in a way
06:51:04.540
where it's like oh i want something from this like it just i just enjoy taking people taking care of
06:51:08.460
people that are around me if i could do it yeah if i can do it i won't do it but if i could you know
06:51:21.340
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
06:51:29.340
no don't read that's not me the roast what was the roast what was the roast
06:51:34.140
no i guess okay can i ask a question then yeah if we do you want advice still or she gave you good
06:51:41.820
advice especially she gave you oh i'm almost all all advice i don't know this is new oh i gotta i'll
06:51:47.020
move it on though uh or did you have to ask something okay go ahead okay i know this is like
06:51:52.460
really like touchy subject but would would girls these days be interested in going on a like getting
06:52:00.780
paid to go on a date but it's not sexual so the guy's not allowed to touch you kiss you or do anything
06:52:07.340
you just he just wants someone to eat dinner with him and watch the movie or play golf and he pays
06:52:11.980
you for your time would you do it that's a sugar daddy it's not sugar daddy because i feel like you
06:52:17.260
have to give sugar to get that money the sugar is your presence have you done that have you done that
06:52:22.460
have i done that um no comment you don't know that is a big fat yes but i'm just wondering is that like
06:52:29.580
a bad thing if it's nothing sexual it's because i don't know if i should disclose that to like
06:52:35.340
future partners is that sex work does that would that be considered sex work like walking the fine
06:52:40.060
line between like escorting and not escorting like i feel like it is but it isn't like i don't know
06:52:45.180
yeah i would probably disclose that like i would i wouldn't be like i don't have to talk about this
06:52:49.260
this is so serious i used to be an escort i would be like haha like men used to i don't think i don't
06:52:53.900
think it would be sex work no if you're not actually it's getting close it's like they just pay you
06:52:59.980
for like like your companionship like oh it's someone to talk to because they feel lonely and
06:53:05.180
they just like like talking to me like i'll be honest i met this random guy on craigslist and sf
06:53:09.180
and i was like looking for furniture and then basically what happened was like he's like oh
06:53:13.260
my god you're so cool like do you want to get dinner and i was like oh yeah we can get dinner
06:53:16.620
like i'm broke like you know i was working the teacher on a 50k salary living in the bay area of
06:53:20.460
course i'll take a free dinner and so we went to go get dinner he paid he was like you know what i
06:53:24.860
really like your presence i have a couple events i have to go to i wouldn't mind paying you just to
06:53:29.340
come along with me and so yeah i just did that and so i was like is that like an escort thing
06:53:34.700
i don't know because it was never anything sexual yeah i think he's trying to smash yeah really no he
06:53:41.740
was so nice and he would like send my kids stuff buy us like crispy cream donuts like every week and
06:53:47.340
like buy for my co-workers too and i never saw him he dropped it off and he leaves i never get to see
06:53:52.300
him but you literally just said that a strange man i'll let you come in a strange man
06:53:59.020
dropped stuff off at an elementary school like he knew i worked there because we like we talked
06:54:04.460
he was like oh so like what do you do so i'm a teacher in oakland and so he would like give us
06:54:08.220
like pencils notebooks he gave the kids gifts i didn't need to let a couple chats come through
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sons of liberty donate i'll let you come in on this though listening to the woke leftist teacher and
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chair one proves how the left doesn't think for themselves they just regurgitate liberal ideology
06:54:25.580
can a confederate flag fly to or just the gay flag uh oh god i think like the confederate flag like it
06:54:33.740
implies like so many other things besides like you know the ideology i feel like it was like not just
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towards one group it's like towards like different groups that they're really like prejudiced against
06:54:42.540
and they try to kill so steph you had something yeah so you mentioned um i said if a guy we were
06:54:49.580
saying that if a guy wants you he will make it known earlier you mentioned guys don't really express
06:54:55.180
their feelings so if they ever tell you and express their feelings like hey i want you we should take
06:54:59.340
it serious since they don't really express it you said that they may just be saying things to manipulate
06:55:04.540
you yet you don't think it's manipulation all the gift buying and things that he was doing to you
06:55:09.260
um i don't think it was manipulation because he never said that these gifts are tied to something
06:55:13.180
and because i give you these gifts i expect the behavior from you it was literally like oh here
06:55:17.260
this is enjoy it like you know have fun as a parent i would feel some type of way about a random man
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buying donuts for my child in elementary can you please say how much signal i need to cut across eight
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lane i turn now good luck everybody else what how much signal i need to cut that's chair three oh i know
06:55:36.620
i'm just reading for myself huh oh my god i dude
06:55:44.220
it's okay can you say it how much huh here i'll play it i'll play it again randy randy you
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you owe me one for this bro chair three can you please say how much signal i need to cut across eight
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lane i turn now okay just read it everybody else chair three can you please say how much
06:56:05.580
signal i need to cut across all right all right coastal operator donated 19.99 cents
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holy shit holy shit chair four you need to stop with them every time bricks and talks
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the chat is absolutely cooked oh yeah she didn't i didn't notice that but she probably does that
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twenty dollars yeah thank you is the type that argues and midway defeats her own argument and then
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forgets she was ever even arguing and winds up agreeing thank you yo thank you blackbird
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yeah donated 20 that's it wait here i'll play it i'll play it again that's funny uh it i think there's a
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so i'll i'll know why i came in that way um maybe there were too many m's uh
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thank you that's a lot of m's you had a lot of time to write those m's
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coastal operator donated 19 and 99 cents chair one you look like sid from toy story boom roasted
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would you rather take chair four out on a date or have carnal knowledge with chair two i'm i'm a virgin
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i don't i'm scared of girls i'm scared i'm scared uh thank you lulu appreciate it um you donated 20
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keep up the good work live in arkansas so only am here stayed up late just so i could get the 20
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so much man appreciate it thank you thank you would you just donated 20 dollars smash it's flat out
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escorting oh wow he says it's escorting i don't oh what he's flat out escorting like going on a date
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like it's not a date like there's nothing romantic involved like he never asked stuff about like my
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dating history he never asked me about stuff like body count or like morals or like what you want a
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partner is there just like oh what are so many stories you have oh my god who the hell oh no i deleted
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one what what are you gonna say oh shit hold on i'm gonna have to pull it up manually my bad
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jones donated twenty dollars chair one can be fixed she has the potential chair four is beyond
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hope he can fix you fellas we should just move on there too i'm still on the fence
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chair eight never change great show keep it up a little wink into the wait so it was michael jones
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shit hold on where is this oh dude that's annoying i'm trying to wait where wait what
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wait what chair one can be fixed oh my god is it mean
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some i don't know that's never happened before one of the tts's was deleted it won't even show it to
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because wait there were to see like deleted ones fuck
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oh man i'm sorry to whoever that was i can't even i can't find any these no no um
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um because it it's showing the one was deleted before michael jones and then it was but after
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the and it won't even show me in the um okay if i don't know i don't know how to figure that out
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five hundred and ninety four donated twenty dollars chair one those tattoos can't hide those chicken
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in the nose let's make up and less talky chair three did someone hit your face with a shovel wait
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that's the one you really did why'd you do that again i didn't he didn't know when he didn't do
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that one no yeah yeah you were here five hundred and ninety four donated twenty dollars thank you
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chair four i can't i don't pick on those who have learning disabilities chair five stay the course
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thank you man what is stay the course spicy ween 89 donated twenty dollars so chair four did your
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students always talk with an upward inflection ending every sentence as if it was a question
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i think that's just me interesting interesting okay uh
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thor donated twenty dollars therefore are you a smoke detector cause damn you're annoying and won't shut
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the fuck up chair one is a perfect example of what happens when your dad doesn't love you they turn to
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raves to feel loved wow hey my dad loves me and i love my dad that's all i want to say damn what the
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fuck bright underscore eyes donated nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents care for you are insufferable
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that's all why we hate comments see that one worked a little better i think it was just too many
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ams before it's a roast session brian if you could be a billionaire but never have any kind of
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physicality with a woman ever or you could sleep with three different women a week forever all sevens
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or eights what would you choose dot why i want the chat to answer this one also because that's an
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interesting question so i mean this would entail can can i still have kids like ivf artificial
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insemination or whatever um if i could still have kids
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fuck that's hard can't sleep with them can i still what can i still have kids that's the big thing
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chat what do you pick would billy chat billionaire but you can never sleep with a woman
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or you can sleep with how many women did he say three it was three different women different women
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a week forever all sevens and eights that's not bad though
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some people are saying take the billion i think that when men have a lot of money what do they go
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for it's women like they just want to be surrounded by oh man that's a hard one everything in the
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world is tied to money and sex does anybody in the chat take the women does anybody in the chat take
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the women uh to be fair if you were a billionaire you could well oh i guess he said you can't right
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yeah i think yeah no you can't you would never be able to have sex again can you what about like
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or does it no it's probably it's always sex in general like you can't feel it and said that
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oral isn't sex so yeah you can okay all right there you go bill if bill clinton said it then uh
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okay we have a couple more i declined donated twenty dollars the best girl there is the one in the
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back with the blue hair because she kept to str8 face during ivy's ranting no blue hair oh sorry
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it's a blue towel okay chris sierka donated 20 dollars sooner or later you'll see extreme
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progressive views of chair four three and one will cause social collapse chair eight will have a family
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before any of you that's a cute comment nice nice toast donated 20 dollars escorting does not always lead
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to sex and so still consider this courting and this courting is considered sex work
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well put i guess so randy donated 20 dollars fine brixton i'll give an extra 20 for the same
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thing but she share three better say this time i turn now good luck everybody else
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wait say it again i turn now good luck everybody else is that from what is that from it's a
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family guy i know now it's the asian woman and family oh my god she's like i think she's korean or
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chinese yeah underscore vagina underscore podcast donated 20 dollars eight woman and the top one says
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literally there's literally nothing for seven hours just sits and looks pretty is that about me yes
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it's about you thank you fake vagina podcast there you go all seven s donated twenty dollars seven
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two a dollar to really in seven hundred and seventy seven and a silly in seven hundred and 77 t
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We've all lost so many brain cells from today's show team.
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Brian, when you're going to go to Andrew's property and do some shooting,
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you could make an in-person appearance on his show for a change, too.
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I'm just so tied up with everything here in California,
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Chairs 1, 2 and 8 are the best looking on this panel.
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Chair 1, learn a thing or two from Chair 8, and you will find happiness and fulfillment in life.
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Chair 4, not my quote, but someone in the chat called you Japanese.
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Plus, the hand is efficient, knows what to do quickly, and goes away after.
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You can surf, hire a chef, cleaner, hunt, shoot.
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Notice how men and God have three letters, while women and the devil have five.
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If I was younger, I think I would have taken the billion.
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Because I didn't have money when I was younger.
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Honestly, once you make beyond a certain amount of money.
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Take the billionaire's money and then get the women.
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Chair one, you're hands down the most beautiful girl I have ever seen.
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Cruella, Deville, Betty Boop, Tokyo, Rose, Petty, Manny, Pass, Pass, Pass, Wednesday,
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Bailey, what do you, what do you, why are you making that face, Bailey?
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Chair four, oh, mm, chair three, say, you go now, you've been here four hours.
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Uh, what would, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
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Or, they don't have to have it, but as long as that's in their mind.
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Then let's say, maybe it's something that's more comprehensible, like, uh, millions.
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But at least if they're working towards that, and they know how to, and they, they know how
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to get there, and they're willing to put in the work, that's what I care about.
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Okay, because, I mean, I don't think, like, a man is lacking confidence if he's just realistic,
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and he's like, I'm not going to be a billionaire.
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Okay, then let, then let's say, let's say, in the millions.
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I want, I, I, I know I can get there, and I want my partner to have that same mindset.
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So, ultimately, I want to be a stay-at-home mother.
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I want, like, the submissive, normal, like, from, like, a 1960s relationship with gender roles.
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But in the interim, like, I don't, I don't mind working.
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I'm someone that'll work 80, 90 hours a week if I have to.
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So, while that goes on, I would not date somebody that made less money than me, so.
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Because I would think that he doesn't have, like, a definitive income.
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Yeah, but what do you date a guy that makes 50K?
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And then by the time he retires, he's making 60K.
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I mean, maybe it's, like, his family's taking care of him.
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I think as long as you have the necessities, you know?
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And what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
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But ideally, I would want him to be, like, 6'2".
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And then I think this will just be the final thing from the questionnaire.
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Have you ever had a sugar daddy and or sold pics?
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Uh, I don't do it actively, but it's, I take it on and off my beacons whenever, like.
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I didn't see it on any of your link tree or anything like that.
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I thought you said that you don't post on it anymore.
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Well, when I was in a relationship, I didn't post on it.
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But I actually recently just, like, I post, like, once every month just to, like, keep
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the subscribers there because people always, they funnel from my platform.
07:16:01.680
Uh, Patrice, you said you sold feet pics for, like, one week?
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Way back in, like, when COVID first hit and everyone was getting on OnlyFans, like, way
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before Foot Finder and nobody had a job and everyone was home doing nothing, I had an
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I think there might have been, like, a bikini photo, similar, comparable to my Instagram
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And then, I don't know how, but the thing ended up with, like, 200 subscribers at $10 a
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month and it was, it was literally just pictures of my feet.
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Um, and then I got the weirdest request ever, which would have permanently turned me off
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to doing anything like that ever in my life, so.
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Stephanie, uh, you said yes, you've had a sugar daddy and or sold pics?
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No, I didn't sell pictures, but I had a sugar daddy.
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No, how much did you make from the sugar daddy?
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Mm, it'd be, like, on and off for, like, a year.
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So, maybe in total you made a couple thousand or something like that?
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Okay, I'm gonna let the rest of the roast come through.
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Chair 4's fake Asian voice is worse than Demi Hawk's fake little girl voice.
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I had to use my Google machine quite a bit to find her name, despite remembering her on
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Wait, like, they found my name, or what are they saying?
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I guess I don't think you're Asian or something.
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Well, I think there are some things most of the panel should research after today.
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Brian, can you show Ivy, the Asian lady in white, the iconic full metal jacket scene with
07:18:53.640
You know, I can't, Jay, I can't do that, but I can play this.
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Some of you have some cooked views, but you took the criticism in stride, so kudos.
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Give or take a few years until the magnetic pole shift event.
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Chair 4 is so indoctrinated she's willing to support a program, DEI, that steals opportunities
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She's dated so many white dudes, she thinks she's one of them.
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Missing lately cause I was out of commission same time as Mason.
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Only reason for women is to birth and raise your children.
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Have not touched one IN 17 years and don't miss them.
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Why is the value not weight based on family dynamic and not the amount in his wallet?
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Now I understand why South Korea is going through a population replacement crisis.
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It's cause it's too expensive to have kids there.
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From the chat, chair three must have been left in a hot car as a kid because she is absolutely
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It's like English is her second language, maybe.
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So it's like, you know, maybe she's fucking like 300 IQ in Korean.
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But like, if a language is your second language, it's harder, you know?
07:24:04.240
We didn't do all of Patrice's notes, so we'll get...
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You wanted to speak a lot about the red pill space.
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You're incredibly red-pilled, but a lot of the men in this space are so fake.
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I wasn't sure what I was supposed to send, because you sent, like, a list of, like,
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So, I was just, like, giving, like, general, kind of, like, answers to topics.
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Like, if you had to just fire off three ways you're red-pilled, how...
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I'm not going to give, like, sub-examples of, like, I think I should stay home and cook
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I think that, like, I do think that, like, I would rather have a male doctor than a female
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Not that I would be upset if a woman was actually qualified.
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Like, if my options were Joe Biden or a qualified woman, I would pick the qualified woman, but
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I would prefer to have Donald Trump or somebody like him in office.
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That was, like, one of the first reels I saw him on was yours, and he was like, oh, I have...
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I was going to, like, give away identifying details, and I'm like, oh, I see.
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But this guy who you were engaged to, but that's off, like, as of two weeks ago.
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Wait, if he reached back out to you, he's like, let's make it work?
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I just took a 27-hour flight home from Australia after I got left there alone.
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I don't really think that's something that is...
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I was just trying to have, like, a conversation about some things in the relationship, and
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he didn't want to have a conversation about it.
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I guess I annoyed him too much one night, and he just packed up and left.
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I kept the ring, and he paid for my flight home, so...
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Literally, I flew 27 hours to live in a different country with this man.
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And leaving my family to go start my own family with him, and I...
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Again, like, he was like, oh, it's just a flight.
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I'm also, at this point, incredibly jet-lagged.
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Like, and he just up and, like, leaves me there by myself.
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And I don't think that's indicative of somebody who's gonna constantly, like, say, oh, I provide
07:27:09.300
Okay, so you guys spent some time together, but then, like, some shit went down.
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We had an argument that wasn't even really an argument.
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It was, like, me stating some things that, like, weren't really...
07:27:17.780
They were incongruent in the relationship, asking for some clarification on some things.
07:27:23.100
Oh, like, he had other women, is what you're saying?
07:27:25.480
No, that's not what the conversation was about.
07:27:32.920
No, it was more, like, the direction that the relationship was heading in, and we were
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finally at this final destination of these plans, and...
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So it was more like we were now at the final destination.
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Like, we're really gonna live in this other country away from my family.
07:27:49.540
Wait, like, you know how earlier you said maybe the girl was a basket case when she got
07:27:55.160
Not that I was a basket case, but I was like, I can't...
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I knew I was going there, and he knew I was gonna have...
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I was just like, I can't drive, because they drive on the opposite side of the road.
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And it's not that I was complaining about that.
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I was, like, asking for some, like, reassurance.
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Like, can I get, like, a cuddle and a hug when we're sleeping?
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Can I get something that proves to me that you actually want me here?
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And he's like, well, you have a ring on your finger?
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What would happen is we would spend, like, six weeks together.
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And then we would maybe not see each other for, like, two...
07:28:38.060
Yeah, we would maybe not see each other for, like, two to four weeks, and then we would
07:28:44.780
Or, of the year and a half, we lived together for probably more than half of it.
07:28:52.560
So, I'm somebody that prior to him, I had multiple jobs.
07:28:56.760
Like, I was somebody who was working, like I said earlier.
07:28:59.180
It wasn't uncommon for me to pull 60 to 80 hour weeks.
07:29:10.040
So, I'm somebody who was constantly, like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
07:29:16.380
I cook basically all my own food just for, like, the health value.
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Well, now, all of a sudden, I have all this time.
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He doesn't want to talk to me and occupy my time.
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But the end of the night would come around and I would make dinner.
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And he wanted to, like, sit out and zone out, watch a show on his computer.
07:30:05.400
Like, you've taken me away from my family, my friends, and everything else.
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Let me let these come through, but we can come back to it.
07:30:51.740
If chair one simp pops a ball of champagne right now, will you go on a date with him?
07:31:03.660
To be fair, chair one simp, give us some details about you.
07:31:33.300
And I would need your Instagram to know who your friends are.
07:31:58.660
I feel like I do the mmm thing, too, a little bit.
07:32:22.280
My great, great granddad fought for the Confederacy at the Battle of Lookout Mountain.
07:32:27.860
To have a first-generation Vietnamese explain to me why the Confederate flag is wrong.
07:32:37.560
Really quick, I'm going to read some of the rest of your notes, Patrice.
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So you said, excuse me, for the guy who you were engaged to, you said,
07:32:47.840
You said, your job, your family, your life, your social media, anything he asked, I did
07:32:55.660
But he constantly was showing me that I couldn't really totally relax around him.
07:33:01.680
I ignore all of that in an attempt to just want it to work and the potential of it working.
07:33:09.920
Are you at liberty to say his profession or would you prefer, you don't know?
07:33:17.880
So like he would ask you to like take, would you take down like revealing photos on your
07:33:23.080
So you'll notice when I first, when I first reached out to you, I had a different Instagram
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with only like five posts and like 50 followers.
07:33:29.860
And it was, it was like, he didn't even have to ask me.
07:33:34.340
So like I was telling you earlier, we literally had gone on one date and there wasn't even
07:33:37.760
any conversation about like exclusivity or anything, but I knew how he was from like
07:33:45.380
And then I still had the Instagram page, but with no posts on it.
07:33:48.560
And then he was like, I want this, like, I want the Instagram page down.
07:34:00.160
But as the, as the relationship progressed, because I've given an inch, now he wants a mile
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and the request became absolutely like ridiculous, like insane.
07:34:17.460
I don't like, I don't want to drink a glass of milk.
07:34:20.840
But he would like demand that I would drink a glass of raw milk and I don't have anything
07:34:31.640
And he would get mad and tell me that I was being argumentative and combative because
07:34:38.760
Like, did he, but did he want you to get your protein intake or something?
07:34:42.520
It was just like a, it was just like a power move.
07:34:45.160
Even my, even my engagement ring was a power move and I didn't realize it at the time.
07:34:48.540
It took like, I realized it after not that I'm like, wasn't appreciative of it, but he
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told me to pick out an engagement ring and I did.
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And I picked out a, like I picked out a diamond and then he was like, no, not a diamond, like
07:34:57.900
And he ended up getting me a ring that was like double the price of the ring I actually
07:35:01.460
wanted just to like, and I'm like, oh, that's so sweet.
07:35:05.420
I feel like even in that moment, it was a power move.
07:35:08.120
Moving on to the next thing in your notes here.
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You said you were in a 4.5 year serious living relationship your entire adult life.
07:35:19.600
Every guy I've ever dated has been like 12 to 14 years older than me.
07:35:22.060
You said he and his family own hotels and such.
07:35:25.800
You walked in on him in the hotel pool area in the steam room, literally cheating on you
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I, that, so that like, you'll see right now I'm two weeks post breakup from across the country
07:35:47.440
Like, I'm not going to lie and be like losing an engagement and you've, you're mourning the
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And I'm not going to sit here and pretend it doesn't suck and I'm not hurt because like
07:35:57.000
But that relationship, I was at this point in that breakup, I was still like in bed, couldn't
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eat, couldn't sleep, couldn't like move, like just in physical agony.
07:36:07.920
So I feel like you go through that one time and like never again, ever again.
07:36:13.260
And then you said that this generation might be the most underfucked and most lonely.
07:36:20.000
I mean, so, I mean, I think that this generation has, first off, I mean, we can pivot to multiple
07:36:25.200
different points in this on dating is difficult.
07:36:28.040
Now women all want to be with the top 1% of men and men all want to be with like objectively
07:36:36.200
Men want the most attractive, most beautiful youngest woman that they can get.
07:36:39.960
And women won't even look in a man if they're not making, like we talked about earlier, like
07:36:44.500
most of the women here, six figures if they're not manly and masculine and all of these things.
07:36:51.660
So nobody, in my opinion, like nobody's having sex.
07:36:55.020
Women are posting revealing posts on the internet, on their Instagrams or whatever, and maybe
07:36:58.920
they have OnlyFans, but nobody is actually having sex.
07:37:02.980
60 years ago, everybody was in a committed relationship and married by the time they
07:37:13.280
Seems like that's kind of how most of the panel is.
07:37:16.640
People aren't having sex five, six times a week.
07:37:18.980
I think less men are having sex, but more women are.
07:37:40.540
Okay, there's a few more chats coming through here.
07:37:52.100
In speech therapy, they teach you if you are using filler words or sounds, just take a
07:38:13.660
I used to associate the red pill movement with men only until I realized it is for both
07:38:19.740
genders because we all head to the same grinder.
07:38:22.900
The 1% get to live life while the rest of us sleep until death.
07:38:32.140
Chair 4, it's insane that you were around children, you lunatic.
07:38:43.760
Chair 8, I wish I had something bad to say about you.
07:38:55.280
If you want to meet a nice guy who wants to start a family with you, what do you think
07:38:59.740
guys out there are going to think of your Instagram pictures?
07:39:03.340
Well, I would take my Instagram pictures down tomorrow if I met a guy that was worthy of
07:39:16.440
Chair 2, where are you from and what is your accent?
07:39:34.880
Chair 1, no self-respecting man would wife you.
07:39:40.160
Chair 2, you think you're a good one, but you're fake.
07:39:56.920
I miss Yarl, but I'm dealing with some shit RN.
07:40:01.980
Am going more ghost than ever after this message.
07:40:16.860
I'm going more ghost than ever after this message.
07:40:25.720
Chair underscore one underscore simp donated $20.
07:40:36.140
I would love to watch the sunset on the waves with you.
07:40:47.000
I don't know who he is, but a champagne pop and I will give you virtual kisses.
07:40:58.600
Well, first you guys get to know each other a bit.
07:41:06.660
Maybe that's, hold on, maybe a little down the road.
07:41:11.560
Chair one has the least unrealistic minimum salary for a man we've seen in a while.
07:41:16.100
I've never said that they have to have a minimum.
07:41:26.720
Your salary could be 20K, but if you are in the pursuit of hitting your goals, whether
07:41:34.500
that be monetary or just actually succeeding with whatever that is, that's all I care about.
07:41:44.820
Chair two is dangerously close to a pick-me girl.
07:42:18.540
Maybe you're the one who's, you got multiple accounts.
07:42:31.040
Okay, and then, Steph, did you have some notes or something you wanted to hit on?
07:42:39.620
You did have one disagreement, so I'll give you that one.
07:42:42.820
Steph, your disagreement was interrupting when trying to answer, and I think in your pre-show
07:42:50.380
notes, you said something along the lines of, in terms of disagreement with the show,
07:42:55.000
where you don't agree how, how at times they speak over the guests to not let them finish
07:43:03.660
I mean, it didn't happen in this podcast, but it's like something that I say in another
07:43:20.300
Well, I mean, as the host, too, you have to direct the conversation, so sometimes I have
07:43:24.600
to interrupt people, cut people off, move things along, so...
07:43:41.480
We don't hate women, but are cautious around them because of the rise of false allegations.
07:43:46.840
We never marry women who are influenced by feminism.
07:43:55.940
You gotta be careful, though, saying that you're...
07:44:00.540
Like, they, uh, they deleted the MGTor, MGTor, Reddit.
07:44:05.480
A lot of those communities online just get nuked by all the platforms, so...
07:44:20.000
On your way out, scream, I'm stealing this lamp.
07:44:23.500
They'll stop you, but ultimately they can't do anything.
07:44:54.680
She's got to make $95 a month, have bad vision, bad arch in her back, and got to drive stick
07:45:16.500
Just listening to y'all makes me tired of the dating game.
07:45:27.780
If there's any more that are coming through, feel free to get them in.
07:45:30.320
I guess any final thoughts from any of the panelists before we wrap this up?
07:45:49.480
I talk a lot, but I was like, the comments are kind of me.
07:46:23.380
In the previous show, you wanted to talk a bit about, like, the Asian dynamics.
07:47:03.960
She's like, oh, I just like to date white men because it feels like I'm colonizing them.
07:47:18.600
Chair underscore one underscore Simp donated $20.
07:47:22.480
Many thanks to Brian for bringing Chair One on the show to let her share her beauty with
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I don't think anybody has simped this much for a girl on the show.
07:47:44.080
What if he brings you to a rave or something for a first date?
07:47:53.100
Well, Chair One, if you do a champagne pop, I will convince her to go on a date with you.
07:48:07.220
I don't have to be on my terms of where I want to go to be safe.
07:48:26.960
I think because I've been traveling around the world.
07:48:32.320
You pay for the experience of being a high up...
07:48:51.240
I'm trying to find that like deleted or denied TTS.
07:49:43.840
Let's read Dostoyevsky and drink vodka by the fire.
07:50:00.640
Big, dumpy brain and a fat boy on small square interrupts and hold up the show all the time
07:50:16.360
Do you want to respond to the Torta allegations?
07:50:18.900
I mean, I don't know because that's not how I feel.
07:51:22.500
Tell us what, Bailey, tell us, can you tell us what happened?
07:51:31.340
I don't think I know what you're talking about.
07:52:00.000
No, I swear, they were like, you know, wanting to know.
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Well, because they were like, Brian, you put words into her mouth.
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Like, I said that, and they were like, oh, you put words into her mouth.
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I mean, I don't know what you want to know about it.
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Like, you want to, this is, this is a band camp.
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I mean, I'm not going to go into detail about, like, him and the whole situation.
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Like, I'm not going to go into, like, detail about, like, the physicality of it all.
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Give me, give me, like, an actual, like, question.
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I just want to, like, I want to understand, like, what happened.
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How did you end up with him on another occasion after the first, like.
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Um, because first boyfriend didn't really have any other sort of judgment of what to expect.
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If somebody forced himself on me one time and I truly woke up the next day.
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Because I could have a separate situation and think.
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If he forced himself on you and made you feel unsafe.
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Not having had any other relationship with someone.
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Growing up in, like, a town of, like, literally, like, literally not many people.
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I grew up in the middle of central Pennsylvania.
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I grew up, like, where I was with white people who called me every other Asian kid's name.
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Like, I didn't have the experience of being wanted.
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So, you woke up at some point, had time to process what had happened, realized, I didn't
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Because I thought, oh, if you have a boyfriend, it's not SA.
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I mean, you thought you couldn't drive in Australia when you can, so.
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And me not having experience, I was just like, I'm not going to, like, say it wasn't.
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I just wanted, because I know, like, the conversation got a little heated last time.
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Because, like, I know it's a super sensitive subject.
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And there's going to be, like, a lot of, like, feelings about it.
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And I'm just, like, and, again, it's a really hard thing to talk about.
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I'm genuinely, like, I've never heard, like, the female perspective on this in terms of, like, what happened.
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I mean, and I want to know what that, and if you're not comfortable sharing, I 100% respect that.
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But I'm just, I guess I'm just seeking clarity and then, like, understanding.
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Because this is an opportunity to, like, I guess, talk about it.
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I think she kind of, like, explained a bit of her background.
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But she did say she felt like she had nobody growing up.
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If, like, she decided to go back, it's, like, her point of view, like, we're not anybody to judge.
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And if you want to judge, just, like, keep it private and stuff.
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But she did say that she felt like she had, like, no love growing up.
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And that's enough for her to, like, felt like that was a reason for her to go back.
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And I don't want to say it's the same criteria, but it's, like, women who stay in abusive relationships,
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they have their own reasoning for it and a different background that, like, we're not one to speak on how they choose to stay in it.
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Well, yeah, I just want you, like, to feel like, you know, I do realize, like, the situation is a lot for you to talk about.
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So I'm just letting you, giving you some assurance that your story is valid despite the views because it is a serious topic.
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Oh, I welcome your experience to talk about it.
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The only reason why, I just want to put in some input, just because, like, you know, you're asking.
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Do you have any questions about, like, the experience?
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I mean, I don't want to, like, bubble up any sort of, uh...
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All right, who's down to take off their makeup?
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Thank you for all the support on Twitch, by the way.
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but it's not because I'm not finding these men.
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That simp might be your best option at this point.
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I always do a British accent at the end of my class.
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all the women will be just madly in love with me,
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Do you know where the panel members find cries?
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No, I was just gonna say that I agree that big labia matter.
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Do you want to be a helmet girl for the whatever podcast?
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We didn't have one today, but you wear a helmet.
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Like, say it was a terrible train accident, right?
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because she just lost the pussy in a train accident.
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I was thinking about all this stuff I have to do.
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So, like I said, thank you, everybody, for tuning in.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
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We don't get any sponsorships or anything like that,
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but next week should be, oh, we got like a couple return guests
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that are going to be very interesting next week, Sunday.
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To everyone, what would you do if modern conveniences,
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technology, and the Internet suddenly ceased to exist?
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To the women, would you depend on men or other women or both to survive?
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Well, that's a heavy question for the end of the show, man.
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It was on Netflix about how like a bunch of people got stranded on an island,
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and then the only one that could help everyone was like the toilet cleaner,
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Would you depend on men or other women to, wait, ladies, would you rather,
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Hold up your, hold it up to the camera, the makeup line.
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Or not chair one, chair one simp, are you still a simp for me?
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We're going to do the raid to Woe Grandma if you want to get her.
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Oh, it's, he's not even, his stream hasn't even started yet.
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And other times, I play World of Warcraft Classic Hardcore.
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He's playing World of Warcraft Classic Anniversary Realms.
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Yeah, I definitely, I wish I had more so like a combat spec.
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The combat spec definitely is going to be so much better.