Jubilee Girl Says She Is A MlSANDRlST?! She DEBATES Brian?! Lawyer Boss Babe?! | Dating Talk #245
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we are joined by a guest who has been a long time friend of the show. We talk about Bitcoin and Bitcoin related topics, as well as Bitcoin related news, crypto options, and much more!
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the whatever channel with that said without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce
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themselves so please tell us your name age occupation where you're from and your education go ahead
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hi my name is maryn career better known as like the no i'm speaking girl um i live in los angeles
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california i'm 19 years old i go to university of rhode island i study psychology and that's it
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and you're going into your uh junior year junior year you said psychology is you're saying okay
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and in uh rhode island yes godhead okay are you originally from california though yeah i'm from
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los angeles born and raised all right and you said you were famous for the no i'm speaking debate i
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fought charlie kirk online i didn't even know who he was but i fought him online what was the process
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for getting on that like you didn't know that he was going to be the guest i literally got it i got a
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text message from i like applied for a jubilee video during covid and then two years later i got
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a text message saying like hey this is like amelia or whatever from jubilee do you want to be in a new
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video and i was like sure why not and i got there and there was a guy wearing a suit and everyone was
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like oh my god that's charlie kirk and i was like i don't know who that is and then i sat down i looked
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him up and i was like oh my god he's on a stage with donald trump i don't know what i'm gonna do
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and then i couldn't contain myself and i argued with him about abortion rights and i went viral
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for that so what was the viral moment from that specific um he interrupted me one too many times
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and you know it's not it wasn't just me trying to be annoying like i do that with lots of people
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he just kept talking over me and so i just repeated the same sentence over and over again which was no
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i'm speaking and i went viral for shutting him down for speaking too much over me what wasn't there
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like as you were finishing up that segment didn't you say something else what did you say to him as
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you were getting up i said and you know what people people asked me if i meant it i did mean it i said
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i said i hope your daughter lives a very happy life which is a nice thing to say and gets away from you
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which i think you know he was upset about and whatever however you know if his daughter does
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have i didn't know he had a daughter when i was doing the hypothetical question but you know if his
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daughter does get raped i hope she lives a very happy life and gets away from charlie kirk because he
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doesn't want her to be free from that okay and um um hold on what was the other thing oh so did they
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provide you the prompts beforehand they during the interview they asked me like a couple questions like
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what are your views on abortion or what are your views on like black on white crime or discrimination
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or whatever and i answered and then they told me like okay it's gonna be you verse one conservative
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they did not give me a name they did not give me any other information so i went in knowing like what
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the vibe was gonna be but i knew it was 25 college students verse one person and i didn't know who the
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person was gonna be i was a little bit surprised to know it was a grown man in a suit who has been a
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political candidate and who has debated multiple college students so that was a little bit unnerving
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but i'm proud of what i did okay what about you um i'm natalia star i'm an adult industry and a dj
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and i'm 32 years old and i didn't go to college i graduated high school and where are you from oh i'm
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polish i grew up in poland but i immigrated to new york city so i grew up in new york grew up in new york
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and you are uh you're 32 when did you immigrate to new york city um in 2000 2000 so when uh
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oh okay so you were very young then when you met well you would have been what 10 or so wait hold on
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see if my math here i don't remember it's like seven or eight or something like that okay got it
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you speak uh it's polish polish yeah okay got it what about you hi everyone my name is lynn i'm from
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los angeles but born raised in china i'm a corporate and tax attorney age i'm 29 years old
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29 and how long have you been in the u.s so uh i moved to the u.s in 2013 so it's been 12 years yes
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and you've stayed here the entire time yes uh actually i was living in washington dc for my first
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two years but spent my majority of my time in los angeles got it okay and um you have or have you
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become a citizen or yes gotcha okay and you said you're a corporate and tax attorney yes so you know
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who to reach out to if you ever have a tax and corporate problem do you work with a law firm are
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you like a sole practitioner what's the term for today uh i'm a affiliate sole practitioner is that
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what it's called uh maybe that'll be my goal one day but right now i'm working for a firm gotcha
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and uh you went here in the i'm assuming you went here in the united states for your law degree
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yes you have a jd yes so i actually did my undergrad at usc and then went on to get my jd
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where did you go for law school um chapman so it's in orange county okay that's a pretty good law school
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right i think so um yeah i think uh i just went for the full right scholarship okay um so growing up as
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a poster child i guess i wanted to save my family more money so gotcha and did you um are your parents
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still in china or did they move here too um my parents they are spending most of their time in
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china but they still come to visit me what part of china are you from so fun fact usually people
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ask me okay which part but it's the closest big city is not beijing or shanghai but it's south korea
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it's near south korea yeah and i actually i found i'm 16 korean through 23 and and me the dna test
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okay there you go which i wasn't aware of before what what's the city um it's a smaller city called
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yantai no way why i've been there no just kidding okay wow um but the funny thing is whenever i say
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it's like a smaller medium-sized city you don't know but actually has six seven million population
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because it's china yeah well that's what i've heard with china there's like how many cities that
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have over like a million people it's yeah i mean one million that's like a rural town probably
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that's the sticks in china okay and okay so you moved here uh when you were younger you've been here
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ever since um all right cool what about you my name is kaylin may i'm a boudoir photographer
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originally from reading pennsylvania and i went to college in philadelphia for an associates in
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photography and then graduated here in santa barbara from brooks institute with a bfa in
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uh fine art photography age 35 got it okay all right well uh and did you do any like undergrad or
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anything or uh in philadelphia got my associates in um professional photographic imaging okay got it
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what about you my name is silvana i was born in argentina living in los angeles for over 30 years
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i am a piano teacher concert pianist and uh that kind of i did it all my life but i slowed down with
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covid and after the death of my husband so i needed to do something else and i became a flight attendant
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so i am a flight attendant and i am piano teacher and i am based in denver denver age i am 47 years old
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all right i'm old what's your uh what's your go-to piano piece to uh what was the question uh you said
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you're a concert pianist classical classically trained what's your like favorite piece to play
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well my very favorite piece to play is the g minor ballad written by ferric chopin i i feel very
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related to ferric chopin and i believe it has to do that i was very lucky to be part of that line of
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musicians because my teacher studied with alberto williams alberto williams studied with george
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matthias in france and george matthias was the favorite student of ferric chopin so
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they guide me through that line of beautiful music okay very cool very cool do we have keyboards
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maybe we'll have her play something or i don't know that would be my pleasure all right what about
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you thank you for having me my name is hayley i am 20 years old i am a wsu student and i am studying
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finance all right and i'm from san cruz california got it sorry what was the name of the university
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uh washington state university i see okay got it all right my name is felicity i'm 19 from santa
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barbara i'm a full-time student majoring in business all right welcome everybody we're going
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to go around the table once more what is your current relationship status so single talking stage
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relationship married if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest
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relationship you've ever been in um i have a boyfriend right now almost six months but the
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longest relationship i've been in was eight months with my ex-boyfriend longest relationship eight
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months okay and uh six months so did you meet him on the charlie kirk jubilee shoot or no no um
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i knew him since senior year of high school and i had a huge crush on him all of senior year all of
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freshman year and then sophomore year of college we started dating he lives near me in la and we just
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knew each other for a while is it you you said you go to school in rhode island though so has it been
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long distance for a period of time it has he goes to school in texas and i go to school in rhode island
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but thankfully we're able to like at least once a month see each other for a weekend we call every
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single night um and again i've known him for like two plus three plus years so i love him so much and
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he's living with me for the summer so we're making it work oh you guys live together yeah are you uh
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are you currently at your parents place or you have your own yeah no i'm at my parents place but
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he lives with me at my parents house because his parents house is a little bit smaller and so my
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parents are chill with him living with me and you just got back to you're in la right yeah you just
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got back to la yeah so i go to school in rhode island and then he got off like a week after i did
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and then he's just been living at my house so he just basically moved in like a couple weeks ago
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or yeah okay and was this like you brought this to your parents and they're cool with it or my parents
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know that since i'm grown they can't really stop me from doing things anymore like they set boundaries
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but he's fine if he sleeps over and i love him so much so he's fine does he get like the guest room
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or he's he's with you in your room yeah he's in my room and but like did you ask your parents if it
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was cool or i kind of just told them like hey just so you know my boyfriend who they know and they
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like him sure he he doesn't want to stay at his dad's apartment because it's in the valley and he'd
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rather just stay here most nights and they said that's fine they're cool with it yeah okay all right
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and uh what about you uh i'm recently single since may 6th uh my longest relationship was like two
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years i'm sorry you've been single since may oh so like three three weeks or one month and you said
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longest relationship two years okay but most of them are like six months most of them when you say
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yeah good question four or five two-year relationships no for six months excuse me one was the two years and
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then the rest were six months the most recent one was six months yeah okay uh the most recent
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relationship who broke up with who i broke up with him okay the two-year relationship your longest
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who broke up with who i broke up with him and then going back to you maryn the eight-month relationship
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who broke up with who i broke up with him okay all right all right my what about you my relationship
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status is kind of uh complicated right now because i have been separated from my husband since 2023
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three but we met each other in 2016 and i think it was the seventh year that we decided to call it
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quit so we're currently going through a divorce proceeding okay and of course he's been my longest
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relationship for seven years seven years okay how long have you been separated um for like a year and a
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half all right have you seen have you been dating anybody else in that time period um i you mean
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since i got separated yeah in the past year and a half oh definitely yeah are you currently involved
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with somebody currently no i'm fully single properly single yeah probably single i'm enjoying it is he
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also an attorney no he's an engineer he's an engineer okay did you guys have a prenup yes how long
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were you guys married so uh i mean we're technically still married um so we've been married since 20
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like end of 2017 so it's been a long time been a long time okay oh you've been sorry you've been
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married since 2017 2017 yeah but we had the wedding in uh the summer 2018 okay and how long are you guys
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dating before you got married it was fairly quick uh we dated for about a year and three months and then
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he popped the question then we got married legally a month after okay wait a month after you were
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no a month after the engagement we got married i see okay how did you have the question it was kind
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of a long story yeah who initiated the divorce uh i think it was like a mutual decision um as we just
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spend more time together we realize we're not the best fit uh also uh i think just we have very
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different personality communication styles and interests and pursuits of life uh and also i have
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to acknowledge that i was very young when i got married like when i met him i was 21 years old
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and i have had like some milestones in my life i have changed a lot i became more independent
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opinionated even um so yeah how old was he when you guys met uh his age yeah so he's 10 years older
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so he was 31 and you are 21 21 yeah at the time okay um and he was an engineer you said uh software
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engineer what kind of engineer um like civil civil engineer uh is he uh was he chinese also or no he's
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from the east coast so he's american white american yeah okay did he help you pay for law school no um i
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my law school education was free oh it was free yeah because i got a scholarship you got scholarships
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yeah okay gotcha all right so you guys were married um let's see here uh who who initiated
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the divorce though somebody typically has to do the filing yeah so i was the one that uh contacted
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the attorney uh who did the petition for me okay and of course um subsequently he secured his own
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attorney as well see all right and uh was he caught off guard or did he kind of see this coming um
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i i i think during our multiple arguments i have made it very clear that it's gonna be the path we
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will take so i think he was probably prepared um yeah it wasn't um something like i thought of just
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overnight but it was a careful decision i wanted to make a while ago all right and um was the divorce
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acrimonious acrimonious i would say it's amicable um i wouldn't say like we're enemies because it's
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really hard to just detach from someone after spending like almost your entire 20s together
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so was there is there any alimony um i mean i honestly i'm financially dependent so i'm not looking
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forward to receiving like alimony because i'm not trying to like profit from a divorce um so i think
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it's all up to the negotiation between the attorneys okay um but do you know has your when you've spoken
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to your attorney has your attorney talked to you about art like seeking alimony um i think it was in
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the prenup but but also the thing is uh our financial situation has changed quite a bit since we got
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married so i think that's still something not settled at this stage what under the terms of
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the prenup what was the uh what was the deal with alimony it's actually kind of vague i wish uh i mean
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i had an attorney after law school um so i just said up to this amount of money but of course since now
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we're making pretty similar amount of money then um i think it won't be exactly what is written in
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prenup i'm sure the attorney is going to have some back and forth like negotiations about all the
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terms you're saying that currently your guys's income is pretty comparable it's similar i would say
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like pretty similar maybe he's still like higher but not that much significantly higher okay and um
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could he potentially are you out earning him um no he still makes more than he still makes more okay
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yeah all right got it and you said that you uh one of the reasons why you guys started to grow apart
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is you became more opinionated uh i guess in what ways did you become more opinionated i think in his
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words which i don't completely agree he thinks uh we are both trying to be the boss but i feel like it
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should be an equal relationship we both should have the say in the relationship but i think he usually
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like to take the lead but after i have had my own education my own career um i wanted to participate
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more um like in decision making um and also i think fundamentally just because as i grew older i
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realized oh we just really have very fundamentally different values uh and pursuits and interests which
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i didn't realize when i was younger um and ever since the marriage i realized okay if you want to be
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compatible together you can't just be going on going on vacation all the time but you gotta spend like
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difficult times together as well to see if this person is the right fit gotcha what were some of
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the you said you wanted more equal stake when it came to uh decision making in the relationship can
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you give me maybe one example where in the relationship there was a conflict as it relates to
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a decision that maybe you guys disagreed on um i think uh maybe financially i grew up in a culture
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where men should take more lead in financial affairs so when we bought the house together of course i mean
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we paid like half and half uh but then as for like daily expenses um like insurance property tax and
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uh like renovation i believe the men should take on more responsibility so we had some arguments over
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that um and then i think just in terms of like um i cannot think of like a concrete example right now
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i may have to think through it uh but he often just thinks like things have to go his way um and if i want
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to make a suggestion and he would be defensive he would say oh you're trying to change me and i'm not
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going to change for you um so yeah it's pretty complicated i would say like like different factors
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are contributing one point of clarification you said that as you got a bit older you wanted to
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take on a bit more uh have a bit more equality when it came to leadership in the relationship although
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you said that when it came to financial components you guys paid 50 50 when it came to the mortgage and
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maybe the down payment is that correct but when it came to the household expenses you had an
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expectation that he cover that fully um i guess there's a bit of confusion on my end oh why on one
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hand you say i want to take on more equal responsibility in terms of leadership but you
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are still holding him to he should pay for yeah i think it would depends on um like which aspects so
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in terms of like financial responsibility um because at that stage when we bought the house he was
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making a lot more money i was fresh out of law school so i figured he is 10 years older than me and
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he's well established in his career so he should probably contributing more um to the expenses but
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of course that's i don't think that's like a fundamental issue for us i think the more fundamental
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issues are like when we are um going through um like for example just going on vacation or just
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handling like daily affairs he probably should let me participate more um or help out more be more
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supportive in things gotcha okay maybe we can come back to that uh is this the only time you've been
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married yes do you have kids no no kids okay gotcha and then well uh since the separation a year and a
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half ago have you been dating any other men yes or what uh what was the longest period of time you've
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dated a guy since the separation yeah i don't think um nothing was too serious even though i did um
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kind of hope it would lead into something uh i think the longest was just about close to six uh no
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close to three months okay here just go that way from now on okay um all right what about you
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i am single i've been single for quite some time my longest relationship was with my high school
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boyfriend he was older he was not in high school anymore um and it was a year and a half longest
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relationship you said a year and a half okay and you've been single for how long most of my adult
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life i mean i live very far from my parents and so what i'm saying i've never changed my facebook status
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to say in a relationship and i've never brought or introduced anyone to my parents in the traditional
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sense of publicly dating so i've had plenty of like mini relationships but i wouldn't say i ever was
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introduced as oh this is my girlfriend so okay um so you when was your year and a half relationship
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when i was in high school 16 to 17 and a half how old was he 21 to 23 is that i think that's a yikes
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that might be that might be a bit of a yikes oh you're saying you're in a state where the age of
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like i started dating him when i was 16 so that was a consensual my parents approved 21 you were 16
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okay um but since then that so that relationship ended when you were 18 correct 17 and a half you've
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not had any relationships no relationships where i was officially dating um okay hold on i need to go
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flash okay um have you had situationships i've had a number of situationships okay some were fun
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some were horrible but what's the longest situationship you've had two years two years
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but you guys weren't boyfriend and girlfriend no never went anywhere in public okay didn't go on trips
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together didn't do holiday gifts birthday gifts didn't hang out with each other's friends all right
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are you currently involved with a guy in some capacity no there's no guy in the picture
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no guy you're seeing even casually sneaky link depends what city i'm in
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are you an escort no but i grew up on the east coast i travel often and so i have friends that i see in
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different cities when i'm there but it's not like i plan the trip to see them it's like hey i'm in
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town you want to go get dinner if i sleep with them afterwards you know what i mean there's someone
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i've known a long time okay um so there's no guy currently though in the picture what there's when's
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the last local situation ship you've had local situation ship in la a couple years
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okay so you've been have you been uh are you celibate no i just have the absolute worst dating
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luck out of anyone you've probably ever met when's the when's the last time you uh hung out with a
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guy in a romantic about a month month and a half ago okay so so you've been celibate for a month and a
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half yeah i don't think i've had sex this month okay um are you wanting to get married or have
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kids or anything like that uh i'm not sure if i've missed the boat on that or not yet it's still a
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you know whether or i would like ideally in an ideal world to find a partner and get married
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and whether i adopt a child or they already have children is like i don't feel the need to birth a
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baby like and have my dna like doesn't feel like something i absolutely have to do but like i'm
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not against it i would have kids so if it happens if i'm but i'm not going to be a single mom i'll be
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the first one in line i've watched enough of my friends get pregnant end up single moms multiple
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baby daddies count me out gotcha okay and uh let's see here uh have you ever had a roster
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definitely how what's the biggest the roster's ever been maybe five five guys i like that
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restaurant that means five guys at once no it means like there's five guys in your phone book
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that you might send a sexy photo to and make plans to see at some point in the upcoming month but
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one guy might be out of town the other guy might be out of town not dating no period
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all right um and uh when's the most like you don't have a roster now though it's it's really not
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no it's dry it's dry yeah we're it's a dry roster okay it's open season and then summertime you got to
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clear out your roster and start fresh in the summer and then just moving back this way for a moment um
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have you ever had a roster uh i don't think so no like so you kind of talk into multiple yeah that's
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one thing i kind of dislike about the american culture i mean guys would hit on like multiple
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girls like send them booty calls but normally i like to focus one guy like a primary guy um but
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maybe there's a sidekick somewhere it all depends there's a sidekick somewhere okay what does that
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mean um like i would try hard to make it work with the primary guy but then it doesn't always work out
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so there's someone probably in the back corner like hoping something would happen and i would still
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have some hope that it may develop between me and that sidekick guy have you ever had like a friends
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with benefits or uh i guess like just very short time short term yeah okay ever had a roster
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yeah totally how big was your roster uh when you did have one i guess
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um yeah depends what city i'm in for sure um at least like five or six different at the same time
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five to six yeah how many do you have a roster currently yeah i have a couple guys i could hit
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up a couple guys i want to like but i also shoot content so i'm just making sure like we could also
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like record it when you say you have a couple guys you could hit up though are they civilians
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no they're usually guys in my industry or guys who have a have you shot who have you shot with
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like any big names or yeah totally johnny sins yep is that one of the guys that you can hit up for
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i literally was in love with him my first scene i was with him and when we did a scene i was like
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oh my god that's gonna be my man that's your man there you go but yeah we could used to hook up
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in like in our private life but not not recently you know maryn uh ever had a roster no no roster
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no okay i've never had a roster i mean like i guess there's there's some guys like i knew that
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if i asked them to they'd hook up with me but i've never like kept a roster or tried to hook up with
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people got it and then going back around the table uh orientation what do you mean uh straight
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bisexual oh like i guess i guess to make it easy i'd say bisexual but i don't really care or no
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so far i've like have you dated any women so far i've only liked or hooked up with men and women
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but i've never like tried to explore anything different i don't really care that much so i i
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would say mainly i've only dated two guys so straight but i'm open i don't know of your kind
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relationships they've been with men yeah but like you have had like a fling with a woman is that
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fair to say yeah yeah i've hooked up with women what about you i'm trisexual i'll try anything
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yeah trisexual i'll try anything once at least well you're saying like she says she's open to
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anything whatsoever i like fluid men you're bi but she'll also do all kinds of interesting sexual
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acts i guess i'll be with i'll i'll hook up with a trans pansexual okay there you go there you go
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but i don't know i don't i don't follow those kind of things i'm just like i'm an energy person so if
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i like an energy if i like what if a tree has good energy i i would masturbate with it because we
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i masturbated with the moon before huh you had like you know on the on the bleach like and the moon
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i like they're like dating the moon no just masturbated with it with it it was like mutual mess
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like you felt a vibe with yeah i felt the moon it was a full moon
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the freaks come out you know what i mean no i had like a like a light directly like coming
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it was the full moon yeah right now you just felt the vibes because we did have a girl on the show
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who was involved with a tree so i don't know i don't know i need to have the consent for sure
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uh romantically like touched it yes oh okay grinded up on it i don't know i don't know if trees can
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consent i don't think i give it a hug i'm a tree hugger yeah um orientation straight by um okay very
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simple i'm straight even though i do like staring at pretty girls on the street you like staring at
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pretty girls on the street okay all right scrutinizing their uh their fashion scrutinizing
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or appreciating depends on how um how they wear gotcha uh and orientation uh i go with straight
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i definitely have had experiences with women and only humans but um only humans only humans no trees
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for me good that's good but as far as dating i don't have any interest in dating a woman so i feel
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like i still prefer the male anatomy all right what about you i am a widow sorry huh oh widow widow
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got it okay yes and uh what's your orientation um i am 100 straight 100 straight okay yes and uh
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you were married how many times so i was married three times uh my first husband is my best friend
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today how long uh let's do a timeline here can you tell me uh at what age did you start dating him
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yes i started dating him when i was 17 years old okay and then when did you get married i got
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married when i was 19 and then how long were you guys together five years uh you were married five
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years yes gotcha so you got divorced at 24 yes around that time yeah and then did you initiate the
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divorce actually we separated and i didn't have the money for the divorce but he initiated it like
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two or two years later after we separated okay gotcha and then you were single for a period of time i was
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single for about seven years and then you met your second husband who died of a stroke
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and um so how old were you when you met your second husband well so i was 32
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because i got divorced at 25 my first husband so 32 i would say a little closer to the mic i'm sorry
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32 years old 32 when you met and how long were you married a couple of years and then you divorced
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or well wait no you're with widowed from him yes no no no no no i'm not we don't know we're
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he died and then i married a third time that was my the love of my life and i was married the last 10 years
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okay so my third husband died in 2020 and i got married in 2010 i was married 10 years no actually
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i got married with him in 2012 wait so two of your husbands are dead yes the second and the third
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but and the second one he died while you were married or after the divorce no no second one i was
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with him he died of a stroke okay gotcha yes and then i married my third husband who who is the love of
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my life i married him on 2012 oh okay so only wait yeah but he passed away too he passed away in 2020
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okay saving my daughter's life oh um what was there what happened what happened what was the it's a long
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story i mean if you let me tell you it's going to take me a good five minutes i love to tell this
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story but i don't want to be taking me give me like the the 30 second plot synopsis version it'll be very
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hard very hard i think i would need at least a minute maybe tell us the uh saved her life from
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what from the world of drugs so my in a couple of worlds my daughter was in drugs for a long time
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and we did anything you can imagine under the sun to help her whatever you come up with we did it
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until we couldn't do any more and it was affecting our life our marriage our finances our everything
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so that's when we decided to move away literally to save our lives and we moved to the other side
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of the country to to to live away from her because she was she would be in our house constantly and
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she was a woman 20 plus 25 years anyways a little story short we moved to north carolina from los
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angeles to north carolina and we lived there the 10 years that we were married those were the best 10
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years of my life with the love of my life until i got a phone call i thought that she was going to put
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herself together now the mama was gone because i was told you give her too much you always take care
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of her leave it alone she's going to figure it out but she didn't i still can believe that she didn't
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when she was by herself but she didn't so i got a phone call 10 years after and that was in 2020 i got
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this phone call telling me we saw your daughter in the corner of venice and sepulveda in a community
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of drug addicts and i almost fainted when i heard that my husband grabbed me he grabbed the phone
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and he said do not call again giving those news he hung up he looked at me and he said honey we
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walked away to be happy and look at you and i said honey i can't help it so he said i'm going to
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la i'm going to go to your daughter he went to la december 5th 2020 that was a wednesday no excuse me
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december 2nd 2020 he died in december 5th he went on december 2nd that was a wednesday so here comes
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the end of the story he landed at lax he picked up the rental car he went straight to venice and
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sepulveda to find her after those 10 years that we walked away and he did he found her he put her in a
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hotel he took care of her she took a good bath she looked terrible 90 pounds looking the worst you can
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imagine he always gave me the news what was happening the next day thursday december 3rd he
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called me he took her to get her nails done her feet facial he was getting pretty december 4th he
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took her to the mall gave her the credit card leave her he left her there she got up at the end of the
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day full of you know makeup and underwear and clothes she was so happy and december 5th the fourth day
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that she was with her and he was talking to her about going to rehab and then he told me we're
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going to make a deal i'm going to make a deal with you my wife he said that's the only thing we didn't
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do and i said what deal i'm going to put her on rehab but if she doesn't accept you're going to let
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go and i said me yes you as a mother you're going to let go we're going to change our name our address
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we're going to be private she will never find us and you will never look for her we need to be happy
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but if she doesn't accept i'll put her in rehab and i'll pick her up myself on the last day we bring
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her to our home and we get her on on her feet and i said deal that's why he came to la well that
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saturday he called me and he told me honey monday she's going to rehab i couldn't believe it because
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she never accepted that after many years so i said honey i'm never going to be gonna it's not it's
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never going to be enough to love you and to thank you for what you're doing with my for my daughter
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for my daughter i hung up and that's the last thing i told him he went to the hotel where they were
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sharing the same room to save money my daughter told me that she went to bed at 8 30 p.m
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he didn't and then she said mama i woke up at midnight i'm looking at his bed and he's at the
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end of the bed in a praying position with music in his ears it didn't look nothing bad it looked like
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he was praying he used to pray and i was hey papa what are you doing what are you looking under the bed
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he didn't answer he was dead so he called the paramedics they took him they did the autopsy
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they didn't find nothing his body was perfect no cause of death i'm looking at my daughter and i said
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he did all that for you now you're going to come to me i brought it to me he flew immediately she flew
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to north carolina and she looked at my eyes when we saw each other after 10 years and she said mama
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for what your husband did for me i owe you a life of loyalty and respect and i said yes you do
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because if you don't do what you have to do now the plan is the same i'm walking away from you
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whether he's dead of a life or alive so because of his death that i'm still trying to figure out what
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happened she's in rehab almost completely rehabbed rehabilitated and that was very quick if i give you
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the details we'll be all crying here but he saved my life and we still don't know exactly why he died
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but he fell dead without a reason and that was enough for her because the thing is that during
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her recovery when she was having her downs because it was ups and downs a lot of downs i would talk to
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her and say remember when you found him dead do it for that make his death worse and he did it she did
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so that's what i'm saying it broke my heart to the point that i almost died i have pictures on my
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phone i can show it to you i went down to 96 pounds i was shutting down i work on my funeral did he go
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to the corner was he sent to the corner yes uh this was in the u.s you said or what what did the
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coroner say was the cause of death they didn't so this is the the last of this the end of the story
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they didn't have a cause of death for a long time and then after a few months finally it came
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a very little dose of fentanyl in his system which we believe that it was the fentanyl that my daughter
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had because that was involuntary exposure i mean for crying out loud he went to save her life he's
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not going to be trying fentanyl for crying out loud he never was a drug addict wait so you think
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your daughter my daughter we believe that my daughter's fentanyl got him because he fell like
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that and that's what happened with fentanyl and later on they found a so small dose that they
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believe that he breathed it because that's what happened my daughter told my mama my fentanyl wasn't
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there in the bathroom i closed the door that if you don't consume fentanyl and fentanyl is on the
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other room you you you fall down dead you can go to youtube and put cop overdosing on fentanyl i saw
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my eyes you know cops can you know they can be helping somebody and the fentanyl is right there
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and they they fall down just as a point of clarification um your daughter she had some
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drugs in the hotel room or whatever in the room fentanyl and he incidentally accidentally came into
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contact with it that's what we believe you're not suggesting that there's any sort of foul play
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correct absolutely not okay absolutely not honestly this is not really related well it's kind
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i'm just being kind of totally off track here i think you just disown your your child if they're on
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drugs like that i think you just gotta disown i don't know i'm sorry i'm not gonna go to the
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hotel and like accidentally come into contact with fentanyl risking my own life i agree with that
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i think whoever is but that's i'm that's an absolutely tragic thing i'm really sorry to hear
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um so she's clean now though or she she's clean you know she's clean she's doing great she's doing
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so much better she's out of rehab and she's putting herself together and she's getting a job
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so she's at the beginning of starting to get herself in society and i'm starting to see the
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results the fruits of his death you know well i appreciate you sharing that with us of course
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um sorry for your loss thank you yeah me too i'm sorry thank you you know you has she taken
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responsibility i mean she kind of killed the guy not a hundred percent well did did she talk about like
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anything about that no no and that's a good question uh no no she i believe that drugs really
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affect her to the point that she doesn't have a great judgment today and she doesn't act
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at the height or at the level that she should after everything that happened when she told me that day
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mom i owe you a life of loyalty and respect she knew it her her mind her thinking told her that
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so i don't know what happened today but you know there's some things that i'm expecting more
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more from her but as long as she's getting out of that life and getting clean i'm happy i'm not
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expecting anymore um okay so uh you've been you're currently wait are you currently in a relationship
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no no no i'm single how long you've been single for since he died uh 2020 december like five five
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years five years yeah and longest relationship was it was my third marriage almost 10 years
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nine years and sorry 20 years 10 years 10 years almost 10 how many children do you have
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two adult children children from my from my first marriage okay then that's it that's it got it
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okay what about you i'm in a three and a half year relationship with my boyfriend and i'm straight
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and no roster longest relationship uh he was my longest this current one yeah gotcha okay how old
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is he he's 19 19 19 yes oh okay and you're 20 yes cougar over here oh my goodness he calls me that
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all the time gotcha so you guys were like high school sweethearts yes kind of okay same grade yes
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okay um all right uh felicity what about you single for like oh a week now oh longest relationship
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was almost two years a year and a half two years this past one she got dumped boy did you get dumped
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or what happened uh he's not faithful he's not faithful i gotta listen to brian wait listen to me
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yeah yeah because i talked to you about it one time you're like i don't know felicity it sounds
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like you know hey whoa don't don't put it on me it's your fault whoa hold on totally i think i was
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giving you advice about how you were moving i'm saying i was giving you advice about how you were
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moving let's not talk about how i was moving but i'll i'll say we should talk about that no no we should
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talk about how you were moving not on stream not on stream okay we'll talk we'll talk after we'll talk
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yeah uh oh shit he cheated on me oh okay how many people he had like a secret snapchat account and he
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had like a lot of girls on there how do you find out well i had a feeling for a while i was like i feel
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like something's going on you know like you're like you're keeping something from me so i asked him like
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would you just show me if you're like or tell me or whatever show me what's on your phone because i
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don't want to go through a phone you know and he's like no just go through it when i'm sleeping i was
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like are you serious he's like yeah go through it when i'm sleeping so i went through it when he was
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sleeping and he had been like snapping other girls for i mean at least a month which was also on my
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birthday but damn yeah good times congratulations congratulations felicity on your newly singleness
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uh here we go jungle donated one thousand dollars thank you bro thanks jungle start this party off
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right and thank you dude sorry for the delay on this can't watch for long tonight cheers cheers
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uh are we all getting some or what's the time well underage underage underage uh would you like some
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champagne i'll take some champagne champagne champagne champagne no for you no thank you okay so
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all right got it uh all right while i'm getting this poured felicity keep telling us about the you
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know the the happenings pass it down break the law in front of the camera just keep passing it thank
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you jungle man i don't know i'm just sad about it still but he's a good liar so he kept it from me for a
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while i mean i asked him multiple times and he said nothing was going on who do i keep passing it uh just
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just just here or wait yeah for her all right uh let's do a quick cheers uh cheers to jungle your
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all right thank you jungle much appreciated we're going to read a couple chats here uh mary pull up
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the shop.whatever.com somebody purchased i believe a hoodie stream labs has to integrate this a little
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better um no no no it's well yeah that's fine actually someone thank you for uh getting the
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hoodie and then jeff here you guys can put your name in it too sometimes though if you don't uh dude
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love your pod last pod was crazy keep up the good work jeff thank you for the uh shop.whatever.com
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purchase we will pull up your message if you make a purchase shop.whatever.com and then we have one
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sec let me see we have lucas here lucas chair three nice to see an esteemed colleague on the panel
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tax work question mark that's impressive why would my jv agreement agreement drafts be going to you for
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review for the allocations 754 adjustments chargeback etc section okay reach out to um to brian for my
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linkedin or my instagram and then we can discuss further after the show well he's an attorney too
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but uh we have wait i think he was asking you though he was asking you though uh like did that
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any of what he wrote make sense he's trying to pick my brain but i just don't want to uh go on
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tangents here because i know brian's gonna hate me for going on tangents no you can respond to him
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do like a 30 10 second response uh i'd rather not answer it here um so i'm not subject to any
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malpractice on this show i'd rather i'd rather maybe a little bit of malpractice would be okay
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i'd rather carefully scheme my answer outside the show yes uh so guys if you want um she's going to
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be giving legal advice on the show so send in any legal questions for her if you have any tax
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questions you wait it's court you said corporate and tax mainly tax yes what mainly tax mainly tax
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what's the other one that you practice uh some corporate guys if you have any maritime law questions
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for her aviation law uh tree law she does a bit of tree law she does dog bite lawsuits if you're the
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victim of dog bite she she hates pit bulls so she just ruthless she litigates i actually love french
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pit bull they're so foggy and cute she is now going to sue me for defamation and slander and other
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things okay we have lucas here chair five argentina surely you are a big fan of martha argerich and daniel
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barenblom absolutely any piano concertos in your repertoire schumann piano concerto in a minor
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brown mining on number three i never played it but i could be in my bucket list beethoven emperor
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tchaikovsky number one i did play the torrent emperor with a usc uh philharmonic and then chair
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one you do realize that charlie kirk hangs out on air force one often and his wife is former miss
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arizona wow do you want to respond to that that's uh for you maryn um do you want to respond pray for
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her pray for her wait why should we why do we got to pray for charlie kirk she's probably okay
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she what do you mean she's probably she got the bags that's what um you know if you know arizona
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there is some conservatives there so if she's conservative i bet she's having a wonderful time
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tell us how you really feel um i fear for any woman who gets close to charlie kirk
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because of his views his political views and his perceptence of what women are and how they should
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live their lives but like so when you say you fear for those women yeah fear of what like violence
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his opinion is so hurtful to so many women that like if you're a woman who believes in what he believes
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in i do i just fear for i'm sorry i just fear a little bit for you because the men
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way though what are you fearful of the men who believe in charlie kirk's views are often more
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violent more upsetting more rigorous and more conservative and if you're a woman who believes
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in all of that then you're probably fine so just to be clear you're saying that however you're saying
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that men who believe in charlie kirk's views are more violent yeah and is there like how do you come to
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this conclusion um you know andrew tate i've never heard of him andrew tate is very similar to charlie
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kirk are they yes i think they'd be great friends how how are they some political views ideals
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energies misogynistic ideals okay and you know a couple things yeah yeah go ahead you know i bet i bet
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charlie kirk's wife believes in everything he says and i hope she's doing really good i that's you know
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miss arizona arizona is a very interesting area sure um and i bet she's totally fine with it however
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i fear she never has to face any thing that's violent or upsetting and i just hope that she lives a
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great life are you suggesting that charlie kirk's wife is uh at risk of violence at charlie kirk's
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hands maybe not even his hands but you know i bet he has a lot of friends who are dangerous and
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upsetting somebody you're saying somebody in charlie kirk's circle is yes has a high likelihood of
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assaulting charlie kirk's wife you know i'm not saying that per se but like i would like what you're
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saying i would not feel comfortable in a room with charlie kirk and his friends
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okay and but i bet his wife does i bet his wife's very comfortable where she is so i hope she just
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i'm just saying i hope she's happy sure would you feel more comfortable in a room with like destiny
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or like some other liberal i don't know who that is you don't know who destiny is no uh what about
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like harry sisson or whatever harry the tiktoker yeah harry sisson like democrat yeah okay
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now i'm a little confused though you said charlie kirk and uh andrew tate are similar i do feel they
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are similar can you be more specific in what ways are they similar um violence even if it's not
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violence physically like political violence against women just hating can you clarify what you mean by
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political violence i think they would share a lot of similar views about abortion and
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can you move your can you move your microphone this way and just no no scoot it this way scoot
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it's good it's good no no no no no this way here just i'm following your thumbs but you're moving
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it too much i'm just trying i'm just trying to get it aligned right here no this way this way more
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uh i mean can you try to be like straight with the table she's too tall okay that's fine like this
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political violence how um andrew tate and charlie kirk have both expressed you know issues against
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women's rights well okay we need to separate andrew tate and charlie kirk yeah i think they have
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very different views i would categorize charlie kirk oh andrew tate is worse uh so andrew tate and
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by worse i mean andrew tate is more aggressive towards his hate towards women and his disrespect
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towards women and charlie kirk tries to hide it but behind christianity however they both
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i think value women less than the normal man and that's what i mean that's what i mean they're
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similar similar sure what has led you to believe so everything i'm gonna well i'm gonna keep it to
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charlie kirk because i it's easier for me to do it this way um what specifically has charlie kirk
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said that would lead you to believe that that he doesn't want women to get abortions but you said
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that something about like equal rights or that no you said that he doesn't view women as equal or as
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having the same value as men yeah okay how so even just saying that women shouldn't be allowed to have
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an abortion is assuming that they have less rights than men the right to their bodily anonymity like their
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autonomy well i'm sure some of the people on the panel want to weigh in on that but okay so abortion
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don't you actually think though uh do you consider yourself a feminist no no no i'd consider myself a
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so a feminist no well what's the difference between a feminist and a feminist believes that everyone is
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equal a misandrist believes that women are actually better than men
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how are they better than hold on hold on so just to be clear you are making accusations that uh well
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my understanding of misandry that would be female supremacy which i guess could fall under the
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categorization of misandry but do you hate men no so misandry what is misandry so so misogyny is what's
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been going on for a really long time where men are better than women men deserve more power than women
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men are smarter than women men are stronger than women blah blah blah misandry believes you know i
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think in a perfect world women would be in charge of everything and if you look at countries that are
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happier and better off women are more in charge and i'm not saying that men suck men are great men are
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needed i'm not saying we should kill all men whatever like i don't i don't support that whole
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message however if you look at countries that are doing better women are in charge of a lot of
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the government and i think women because of the system that men have created which is unfair men are
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taught to be more masculine and strong and whatever however you know if we were all taught
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to be equal i'd be a feminist however because women have been taught to be more empathetic a lot of
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women are just better at handling political and social problems okay there's a lot there um
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let's start with your claim that you're saying that there are countries where there is a
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a predominance of female leadership and these countries are better yeah okay which countries
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are those a lot of scandinavian countries like i think copenhagen and like scandinavian countries
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copenhagen is a is the capital of denmark yeah it's not a country but are you talking i'm just talking
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about scandinavian scandinavian areas are known to be the happiest places on earth and so you're saying
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those countries are not patriarchies a lot of them yeah you're saying the scandinavian countries are not
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patriarchies i'm not saying that exactly but i know they have a lot more women in control than
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the u.s does which right now the u.s is predominantly
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actual women yeah and and you're sure and you're saying that these scandinavian countries
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strictly there's no other factors that might contribute to uh them being at least from your
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worldview better countries such as what i don't know you're the one making the claim how are they better
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countries well the women are in charge and they create rules that are more good for the people
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of the country rather than the rich people of the country i'm not totally versed on this subject however
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based on what i've seen the countries of the world that have more female leaders
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are doing how are the people in those countries are happier and more well off than the women or just
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the people in like the u.s right now for example how so they get health care they go free health care
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free health care free just care in general women get better maternity leave women get everyone is
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saying that they're happier in those countries like i'm pretty sure denmark or
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somewhere just got voted like happiest place on earth for 2025 and it's a place run by women and
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you're saying like for example if we look at norway i believe is a country of uh what is it four or five
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million something around that uh you're saying because there's more female leadership in some of these
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scandinavian countries that uh because simply by virtue of that that's why these countries enjoy
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like more prosperity or are better yeah okay you don't think like for example with norway it might
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have to do with their like abundance of natural resources and you don't think that's because the
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women who rule that country and who help that country have protected those donald trump has taken
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away so many of our natural resources already and people are already unhappy about that well i can't speak
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specifically as well my understanding is this uh as it relates to norway norway's natural resources
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uh the sort of uh prosperity that that has granted its citizenry has been in place for uh many many
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decades very good i'm assuming prior to even the uh increasing uh representation of women in its government
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body okay so i'm not sure that that has the prosperity of norway for example has anything to do with
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like current day uh perhaps increased representation of women in government however if you look at the
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countries that have had increases in women governments and you look at the ones who have had decrease and
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who have had predominantly men you can see a vast difference in the amount of environmental protectionism
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acts and other things that have to do with women's health child health anything to do with like the
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goodness of the people i think and although again i'm not saying that men are a problem because i know
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lots of great men it's just when countries rely on only men for power i think that's dangerous and in a
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world where feminism is seen as a bad thing because feminism means only women i'm going to stick up for
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only women because a lot of men who claim to be feminists or women who even claim to be feminists
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still side with like the way things are right now because things are better now than they were in like the 60s
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a couple clarifying questions here you you cited to uh you cited to scandinavian countries
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uh would you say that these women who are there's there's a greater representation of women in the government
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uh are they typically white i don't think it matters but why would it not matter because i don't think
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race matters with power but but gender does a lot of scandinavian countries are predominantly but so
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i'm just curious why are you saying these countries are better because there's more women in power why
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wouldn't you just make that claim about it's better because of white women because i think even africa
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or somalia would do better with a black woman leader than the leader they have currently okay so
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going back to your claim about misandry can you again explain to me when you say you're a misandrist
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what does that mean i believe that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men do they have a
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better way to lead and they are more and i know a lot of men say women are more emotional i think they're
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just more sympathetic and empathetic to groups of people okay and what are men so what i've seen from
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the world men are more interested in power than they are in the goodness of their country men more
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interested in power and i think women are more interested in making sure that their country is taken
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care of and that could be wrong i'd love for a man to prove me wrong and i some men have proven me
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wrong in certain countries however in the mass majority of like the biggest countries it's been
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scary to see only men in power saying that women can't be in power because of their emotions where men make
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all the emotional destructive decisions what are some of those war what if i told you that uh if they
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were if there was a study for example and there is that they did an analysis of female monarchs
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female queens okay and they actually found that the female queens hold on let me finish i don't recall
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the specific date range but monarchs right so they found that uh female queen or queens were much more
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likely to wage war than kings so this would seem to indicate there's a perhaps a greater propensity for
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violence actually in women well you know one story i know of is one of the queens of france created a war
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against i think it was spain or italy or something because her husband created unfair decisions between
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those two i think it was like the um queen of something medici or something i don't forget her
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full name i can't speak italian the medicis yeah i know i know one queen i know one queen did wage war
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before her husband because her husband died in war and she wanted to restore peace
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and i know war war is a big thing but if you look at the history of the world way more wars have been
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started by men and it's kind of an unfair study to say more women have started wars i would look at
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when you look at like but per capita per when because women were often controlled by men's decisions even if
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they were queen they were told what to do the just to be clear the queen was told what to do yes
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so both kings and queens have counselors but they're never told what to do yeah they they have
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ultimate were you there were you there no well how would you then how would you be able to make the
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claim how because you know it's it's just clear that the women who are in power were not actually in
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power because of stories they've told stories we've heard of different men telling them like by the
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way you should do this because just because your queen doesn't mean you have political knowledge
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passed down from you from generations multiple queens were sold to kings to like just be there wait
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hold on so just to be clear okay so you have the queen who's married to the king who's in power
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but like which queen are you talking about hold on so uh the the monarchy can pass down through
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hereditary lines it's always in the sun though right but if there is no sun it goes to the the
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daughter right and we've we've seen empire we've seen this all throughout history if you look at
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england for example there are plenty of queens when you mean the one that was in power like the one
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that just died yeah the queen yeah the queen yeah yeah and then there was queen i'm not an expert in
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like the united the monarchies of england and britain but i believe queen uh was it queen victoria
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queen elizabeth so there's yeah the queen of england so there's been plenty of queens who uh you know
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it wasn't just like thrust upon them through marriage they became the queen through hereditary lines but a
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majority of queens come through marriage lines because well so because even if you're the eldest
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daughter the castle the the royalty line goes to the oldest son but if there is no eldest son or the
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son dies then yes well then they kept trying for a son as much as they could yeah sure and they but
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they would teach the queen you have to start a war you have to do these things that a man would do
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the count who i don't know if all women were involved in and being like not just one queen
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there wouldn't be any wars there's the wars because all the other men are out there trying to fight so
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if it was all women queens you know there's no way to actually prove it because you'd have to go back
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in time and change the course of history but i believe that if women were in charge for most of
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the world there'd be way less war than there is today so but what you think that but that's just
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an assertion what's the argument for why that would be because it's we've only had wars really attacked
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and chosen by men in this current day and age there's been plenty again historically i can't i
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don't have live recall for like a specific war that some queen in the 16th century started exactly
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okay and you got to speak into the mic you got to speak into the mic margaret thatcher argentina
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she started the war margaret thatcher started the world taking the malvina islands from argentina
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i'm argentina i know that part of the story she was a woman and she um uh motivated and she started
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a war not to be against you but it just came to my mind of course of course there's there's many
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women was started for excuse me do you know what the war was started for for the islands
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the malvina islands the islands that are right next to argentina england took them margaret thatcher
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did she started she was the first minister of uh england okay and uh i was back there it was in 1982
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i was in second i was a junior and um and there was a war a war and in my country was in war because
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of margaret thatcher i can i have a second a second one uh christina kirchner she brought the most
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violence in argentina in the history of argentina thank you seth so i think what you're saying is
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true and there's a lot of cases but there's other cases i i think you're focusing on things that really
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happen i think you're right it happened but but no women women brought a lot of violence in any case
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both parties are going to commit violence but if you look at per capita i think men are more likely
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to commit violence for reasons that aren't justified than women and women at least plan
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things out a little bit so you're saying men don't plan things out no i don't agree with that you
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think i mean it depends i don't i haven't seen all the war plans of america i haven't seen all the
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war plans of different countries but if you look at the biggest terrorist groups the biggest groups
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that have committed mass violence all of them are led by men and if you look at the groups that
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have been led by women they're much more peaceful per capita no it's just fundamentally not true again
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they've done analysis per capita if they've looked at female leaders historically they were just as if
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not more likely to start wars than men but when how would why would that matter because a lot of women
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in early years were completely controlled by men even if they were in power or not uh well
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you don't believe that no typically with monarchies the the monarch especially historically they had
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absolute power but women aren't in the time in the 16 17 almost in the 1800s well we're talking
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about exactly you are too women who had power were raised and taught by only men and a lot of
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their decisions were made by men what do you mean their decisions were made by men they were told
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what to do they were told what is right they were taught what is right by not women not like open you
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know how like in today's world schools aren't fully allowed to teach religion if they're a public school
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and not like a catholic school women who were born into royalty and who they knew they were going to have
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to be royalty for the rest of their lives were not taught by parties who were like
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you know they were taught by parties who were very much for one thing
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do you think you could maybe give an example i'm sorry do you think you can give an example maybe
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marie antoinette she's one of my favorite examples marie antoinette was beheaded because
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she said quote unquote let them eat cake even though she never said that she was taken from austria
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when she was very young and moved to france she barely even spoke the language she was married to
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one of the kings and then when the king went under everyone blamed her for being a bad person and for
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not caring about the poor when she genuinely had no real clue what was going on she was just kept to
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be married to the king and then she was beheaded because she was an evil person however she genuinely
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had no clue what was happening do you have another example i'm not completely caught up on english
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queens and queens but i've been to europe and i've heard lots of stories of different queens that have
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just even if they had their own mind and even if it's documented that they had their own ideas
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you have to understand that at that time every woman's life was controlled by men their father's
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word was the word of god they had no clue what was wrong and what was right and so them believing
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that whatever a man said like let's do war let's do this let's whatever they thought it was correct
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because that was the only thing they were being told and it's very sad and i oh women had their own
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ability do you want to push back you seem like you want to push back i gotta get up go ahead um i'm not
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sure entirely about this but i'm pretty sure in the 1900s maybe 1800s um in england for i think it
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was uh for the right to vote uh they burned a lot of factories down do you think they were led by men
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to do that no i think they were fighting for their rights by burning down factories the factories they
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were forced to work in for no money yeah you gotta rage when you're like trying to protest and stuff
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like that you gotta you can't be nice but earlier you said that women in leadership roles don't commit
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violence i didn't say that in a i said that okay so in a misogynistic world where everyone is uh violent
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women are going to be violent and henna inherently they're going to become violent because of the societal
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what's your what's your question just do you think women well earlier you said that
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women in leadership roles commit violence or don't commit violence and i was just giving you an example
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of them committing violence i don't consider that as big of a violent act as what men in government
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have created you know it's not a genocide it's not some sort of giant war it's them saying what
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we're going through is completely unfair you're making us work in factories for zero dollars you're
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abusing us you're sexually abusing us and we're over it and we want equal rights a revolution is different
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than a war or genocide but i get your point equal rights as in not having a job or no as in women
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being respected as the same way as men women getting equal pay women getting equal hours i mean nowadays
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it's much different we get very equal stuff somewhat but back then it was so different
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somewhat somewhat how how they got like dollars and dollars and dollars less than men how they got
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different hours how they got treated differently by the boss how they got no respect in the workplace
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no i mean somewhat how are we treated unequally now the wage gap is one example
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sexism is the workplace what sexism in the workplace she said the wage gap
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i mean the wage gap is one that's still a thing you can't deny that it might have changed in some
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states it might have been different but it's still an issue there there is no there is no wage gap
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this is completely completely debunked by economists but i do think men and women can get paid differently
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for the same job depending where that instance is taking place thank you as in there are men that are
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willing to do my job for free and would sign up and beg to do my job and i charge money for what i
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do well really quick on the wage gap but here you wanted to go go ahead do you think that women work
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as much as men depends where you're asking it depends who you're asking it doesn't matter in a general
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basis do you think they were it doesn't like the office wait hold on here let's do this explain the wage
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cap if i applied for one job and a man applied for the same job a boss is more likely to give a man
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even if it's just two pennies more a man is more likely to get my job than i am because a boss who may
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or might not even be a woman it's still no let's say i'm pregnant and i apply for a job i probably will
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get rejected because i'm pregnant but a man will get that job even if his wife is pregnant because
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you hold on hold on because i'm going to take a leave of absence yes and it's fair to say listen
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you're completely qualified for this job but in nine months you're going to give birth i can't handle
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that what if i get the job and i give birth two years later i would say that when the first hiring
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process new hires they'll want someone that will work for a longer period of time at first you think
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that's fair yeah i think that's totally fair wait hold on aren't you making an advocation that women
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should occupy a majority of positions of political power so wouldn't it actually be within your like
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your logical framework actually okay for discrimination you're just okay with discrimination
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towards men but discrimination towards women is not okay i'm not saying that men shouldn't be allowed to
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be in a political space aren't you a female supremacist no hold on you said you're a
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misandrist different than a female supremacist the way you explained it earlier no listen a female
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supremacist would say men should not be allowed i don't think they would necessarily say that that's
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what i think a male supremacist would say like oh well women could do these sorts of jobs and you know
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but they wouldn't just outright perhaps ban women from the workforce a male supremacist would say
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women should not be allowed in the political spectrum and i would say we're talking about
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something different now you're talking about the political spectrum we were talking about
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the work you were talking about political by the way just to be clear i'm not making an advocacy i'm
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not making an advocacy for some supremacy one way or the other i'm saying this is probably what they
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would say but i'm a little confused because you were making an advocation towards you're saying women
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are better at xyz ergo they should have uh an overabundance of representation in politics in
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the workforce i never said that i okay tell me what you did say that i personally believe and i don't
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speak for everyone in the u.s i personally believe in a perfect world women would have a little bit more
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power even if it would hold on oh oh even if they were just that's not what you said oh i said women
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are better okay women are better leave that and so i can't enforce that on everyone and i'm a positive
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of that wait what do you mean you can't enforce it i can't tell everyone in the entire u.s women are
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better and if you don't vote for only women i'm going to kill you i can't say that so i think you could
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say it but i can't i think women deserve way more recognition in not only the political workspace but
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the in like everything workspace environmental political everything workspace women should get
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a little bit more because right now it is mainly men okay known for being i have a word hold on we're
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all over the place here so i want to bring it back to charlie kirk but first really quick to get
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through the wage gap so you were saying so i'm gonna put aside the comments about you know you're
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saying that there's uh inequality when it comes to hiring practices let's assume both a man has the
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same job the woman has the same job when you're sitting you're essentially making the argument that
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that woman gets paid i've heard different numbers 70 cents 80 cents whatever it is uh explain
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that component of it to me where women make uh less women get hired for less than men sometimes men are
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more likely to not settle for a smaller amount because women know that they can't get much better
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jobs in like a high corporate position men are much more likely to get a higher paying job than women
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especially if they don't have kids yet if they already have kids and they're not planning on getting
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pregnant again they might get offered more of a salary however women who even have a little bit of a
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slight chance of getting pregnant even if it's not said out loud it is more likely for them to not get
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paid or offered as job i'm just curious on that note but it's kind of diverging a little bit from the
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wage gap conversation if you were running a business would you hire a woman who was uh like seven months
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pregnant i mean usually women who are seven months pregnant aren't applying for a job but it depends on
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her but you would make the argument and you made the claim earlier that it would be unfair for a
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company to not want to hire a woman who's seven months pregnant i know you're saying that most
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seven month women who are pregnant at seven months they on their own don't want to get a job but let's
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assume she is trying to get a job so if you're running a business and say your startup and you have
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like limited resources would you hire like a woman who's seven months pregnant depends how qualified she
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is that's what let's say she's qualified fully more than she's super qualified but you you know
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that within two months she's going to go ahead and take her maternity leave and you're starting up your
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business and the success of your business and your own capital is on the line and if your business fails
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you go out you lose your own money your own investment would you hire that woman well you can ask
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her multiple questions there's multiple women who only get one day of maternity leave and have to go
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right back to work because if they're new hires they have to go right back to work that's the law
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i'm pretty sure it's exceptionally rare for for pregnant pregnant women to take off one day no there
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are some companies that if you are a new hire you're not allowed maternity leave and you can state that
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you can say i know you want a job and i know you're super qualified answer my question however i'm not
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allowed to offer you maternity leave would you hire if they say yes or no i agree that there are some
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women who are like they give birth literally the placenta is still it's still attached and she
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fucking runs to work in her boss when they give birth well no i mean it's the the the what's it
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called the umbilical cord is literally hanging out of her vagina and she runs to work that happens
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probably she runs to work in her boss babe heels and she's like feminism i'm ready to work now putting
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that aside you want to answer my question if you're running a business would you hire that woman it
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depends on what she's willing to do she wants to take she wants to take maternity leave six months
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six weeks what what's the what's the typical i think it's six weeks six weeks sure she wants to
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take six weeks yeah i'll hire you okay so just to be clear you're gonna hire this critical position
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and your business is at stake yeah if she is more qualified than her male counterparts that have
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applied for this position if she's the most qualified person for this position and she says
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i will be able to come back to work and do really well then why not yeah i i'm gonna go ahead and grant
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for the sake of this conversation that she's much more qualified than the men okay but yeah she's still
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leaving you for with six seven eight weeks where she won't be working for you she'll take it for the
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team oh i don't understand how to work a little harder during that time and let the woman she
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wouldn't be working at all no i'm saying that it just uh so the other employees have to pick up the
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slack that's what i'm saying that's what she's saying it depends on the situation completely but
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companies purposefully not hiring pregnant or suspected to be pregnant women is a big issue it doesn't matter
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it doesn't matter if they're taking time off everyone takes time off everyone's eventually
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going to take time off yeah sure let me ask you a question a woman owned business uh would you be
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fine with them not wanting to hire men because they're men no you you'd be okay with that no i i would
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not everyone should be hired no matter what on their credentials but let me ask you this so like
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their credentials if if a man is more qualified than a woman hire the man okay so just to be clear you
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don't think that like a woman who's running a company and she wants to predominantly hire women
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and not hire men you would be against that you would say no you have to hire men yeah okay what if the
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woman had like she had negative uh experiences with men and she doesn't want to hire men because of that
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that's emotional i don't think that's something that is i mean if that has happened i don't think
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that's i mean wouldn't you make the argument that a lot of women have had negative experiences with men
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yeah but as in being sexually assaulted in the workplace like i'll say sure it could be violence
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it could be violence it could be i mean as a business owner and i am a woman business owner
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hiring a male in a in a forward-facing position would not be good for my business i specialize in
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photography for married women okay who are creating private art for their husbands so i have had a male
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photo editor at one point but he was into men he wasn't the kind of guy who's going to jerk off to the
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ladies pictures so in some positions men are not fit for the job even though they would beg to do it
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because they want to see inside the doors of what happens behind the boudoir studio that's a great
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point i mean most businesses who aren't dealing with women's naked photos i think it doesn't matter
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the gender and i think discriminating against anyone is not correct however if you're a boudoir photo
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editor or someone who specializes in filming or editing naked women it makes sense for a company
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to say i only want women why because the customer who's the most important part of the business might
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say i don't want a man looking at these photos but in the adult industry it's mostly men holding the
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camera and doing the editing which is why the perspective that most porn is shot from is the male
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gaze yeah but like you said your company does photos of married women who want to take photos for their
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husbands correct if those women say specifically i'm paying for this service and i don't want a man
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editing or looking at these photos i think it's totally valid to only hire women however in a
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normal like hold on sorry we got the chat coming through uh sorry for the delay on this man sorry
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you realize the usa is regarded as the greatest country to exist since the roman empire built on
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the backs of men name one thing women are better at that both genders can do with evidence what do
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you think about like child care it depends on the couple but no like a child care company and they
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discriminate child care company yeah like um i'm trying to think of an example like a daycare
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would you be okay with them discriminated again discriminating against uh like having male daycare
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employees they discriminate based on criminal record and if you're in the adult industry as in they don't
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think adult industry people should be babysitting kids at a daycare or if you have a violent criminal
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record you have no place in a daycare but their sex or gender of daycare people is yeah men should
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not i'm not saying men should be discriminated against for different positions i'm just saying like
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look at everyone and a lot of companies are because of the way that the world has been set up
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a lot of companies are controlled by men and so slowly but surely the line goes down and women are more
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and more discriminated against in the workplace because of the way that those companies have
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started i'm not trying to say that like in the 1800s when these companies were started like wells
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fargo or whatever that it makes sense for like i'm like not saying that it's bad that a man runs
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that company i'm saying that it's bad if that man has a history of discriminating but okay i'd still
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like to get an answer on this the wage gap explain precisely what the wage gap is that women get paid
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less than men for the same job in a lot of different companies i also think women are afraid to ask for
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more money and there's a lot of a lot of women are afraid to ask for more money and they have a lot of
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like issues with that and men are not afraid of that men will ask hey i need this this and that
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and woman is very much not like that so the men take advantage of that also but so what i'm asking
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though is when we're looking at the wage gap when you hear these numbers what specifically is it looking at
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what do you mean so are you comparing all the money that women make in the country no versus
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all the money that the men make in the country at that so what specifically are you saying it's
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controlled no i'm saying in a lot of different jobs might not be this one it might not be other
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jobs in la specifically but in a lot of jobs if i applied for a job and a male counterpart of mine
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applied for a job a male would be offered more money or given more money for a very similar job
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because he's a man and even if you haven't seen that your very self in this industry that you work
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in it is still a thing in a lot of industries well my industry that i work in i can talk broadly about
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the entertainment industry you live in los angeles for example there's been actually hiring uh practices
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where they're actually exclude or excluding the hiring of white people and white men specifically
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yeah and men specifically there's a massive amounts of affirmative action in the entertainment industry
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so this idea that there's like and it's not just affirmative action in the entertainment industry
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we see this in all industries women predominate in hr and women are overwhelmingly the one who are making
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hiring decisions at these companies i would just i guess what i'm trying to get to with the wage gap
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is so the wage gap doesn't though the one that's often cited 72 cents 82 cents 84 cents who knows
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it's always changing is it's looking at the full-time earnings of all women and comparing it to the
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full-time earnings of all men it doesn't account for hours worked it doesn't account for overtime it
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doesn't account for commute time it doesn't account for uh hazard pay it doesn't account for the type
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of job it doesn't count for like a dozen different metrics it's just simply comparing the money that
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women make to the money that men make and so if it was the case that men work more for example which
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they do men work more hours than women yeah you start to see it shrink and then if you start looking
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at specific industries and you compare like for like it shrinks more you'd agree with me that men and
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women pursue different things when it comes to college education academia and career but do you
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know why choice no yes it's absolutely choice women have any choice that they can pursue you have you
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have a tax attorney a corporate attorney on the panel okay she's not relegated to being a secretary i'm not
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saying and she's also an immigrant too she's an immigrant and a woman and a i would you consider
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a person of color yeah this one i would agree that it's really your person pursue whether you want
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to stick with your dream and uh i don't personally think there's like a significant wage gap i can
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only speak to my own industry that i have compared salaries with my colleagues of course we all no
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matter like men or women we all started pretty much similar salary i think the only wage gap that
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could happen later on was because um of course women they have childbearing responsibility they have
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child care responsibilities because usually i have to say the women have to make more sacrifices in the
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early stage after the child is born so they have to take a lot more time off to take care of the child
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and maybe have to make difficult career decision to step back from promotion opportunities but um but i
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think for from the starting point i think we are pretty equal in terms of my industry however would you
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agree that more women since birth are pushed to being things that make less money than men
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i think that's more a personal choice like some women they may choose to step back and take a more
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to have more work-life balance to take care of their family so that's why they would go into like hr
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and secretary jobs and of course women who are more who choose to be more ambitious and career oriented
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they may take on some more difficult jobs like becoming a doctor or lawyer or some other can i ask
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leadership positions have you only lived in los angeles i have actually lived in china in canada and
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europe and us okay so lots of liberal areas uh i wouldn't say so because um europe i wouldn't say
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china i mean i mean americans american government has been always saying there's so much propaganda like
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going on in china so i wouldn't say china is like liberal and actually a lot of uh americans think
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china is very behind on liberal issues of course so but i mean in the in like the states and like
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whatever have you only lived in la and what'd you say um la and dc but i don't think your
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political opinions or your personal values are affected by like where you are geographically located
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well i know plenty of people who grew up in like more conservative areas smaller towns southern
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towns who would say that since birth they have been pushed towards more idealistic feminist feminism
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gender roles where like they were told to be more girly and to not apply themselves to more male
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as in like the parents who tell their daughters just to go to college so they can find a husband
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exactly as in so my mother's father who was a world war ii that was in the navy he sent all of
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his daughters to college so they could go find husbands now that is still a thing there's also
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generational like i'm from a town where there's women who are generationally having babies to live
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off of welfare and that is something that was like their mother raised them that way and they think
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that they just need to get knocked up they don't need to be with the man so they get the government
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benefits there are problems with the united states so i think sometimes immigrants have a better
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attitude coming into the u.s and they honestly feel like the world is their oyster whereas when you're
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born whether i think your economic or financial situation makes a big difference totally on the
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type of opportunities or fair wages that you get i think a lot of women barely graduate high school
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already have kids there was a daycare in the high school in the city that i went to yeah i mean
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those women never got to figure out who they were or wanted to be but they're already mothers of two
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women they're dealing with that now they're 30 message or 35 messaging me on facebook saying your
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life looks like so much fun because i am single haven't had kids no divorces on paper i'm like
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total wifey material something people say to me is like it's not fair that you're talking about these
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issues when you don't have these issues i'm very lucky to be girl i grew up in los angeles california
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very liberal i grew up with very liberal parents i'm not poor i have a good life i went to a good liberal
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high school and i go to a college you know i have so many wonderful rights but when you look at the
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entire united states if you look at the poor little states poor little cities in alabama
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south carolina like all those places red states if you look at the same thing if you look at the small
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cities in little states that have issues i grew up very close to the amish country yeah virginville
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blue ball intercourse pennsylvania those even yeah pennsylvania amish country there is um all sorts of
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things happening and men who are told they have to marry a woman and there's a lot of arranged marriage
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but these guys are actually on grinder you know i i drove through the town with with my friend who
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prefers men and he got on the app and he couldn't believe all these hot farmer boys that are popping
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up i'm sorry what does this have to do with the wage gap but so back to this it just depends where you
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are where you are and it depends how you're raised with the rage gap but like because you're certainly
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not talking about entry-level positions like a domino's pizza hires people at minimum wage no matter
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if you're a lady right or like in los angeles the wage gap is way less likely to be found well actually
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in major cities if you look at single childless women between the ages of 18 to 29 and most like metro
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city areas they actually out earn men so again but i guess when it comes to the wage gap
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uh there there is an earnings gap so the earnings gap is you're not looking at factors like hours
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worked you're not looking at job you're just literally comparing the money that men make and
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the money that women make there's an earnings gap the question you need to ask yourself is not not
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whether it exists but why it exists you would probably say it's due to sexism and patriarchy and
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misogyny and all this stuff i don't think it has anything to do with sexism really so what does
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it have well you know what i'll actually make the argument that does have to do with sexism it has to
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do with women's sexism such as sure i'll give you a couple example would you say that people who are
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motivated are more likely to earn more money yeah okay would you say that uh people who
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have a desire for status are more likely to earn more money
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yeah when it comes to dating it is a dating podcast after all um right i don't know if your own
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preferences are going to align with this would you say that men or women are more likely to prefer
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a high-earning partner i don't know you don't know okay what about status do you think men or
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women prefer uh have a uh preference for status in a partner i don't know you know i think men prefer
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women of lower status so that they can be more dominating in their relationship men often fear
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women who have more status or more money i would dispute that but i'll go ahead for the sake of
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conversation for the sake of argument i'll go ahead and grant that is that your actual world
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view i would say because of and not because of my views or because of their views because of the way
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that the u.s has been shaped with men being on top not a bad thing it just happened that way because
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of the way that we evolved or whatever what do you when you say evolved what do you mean are you
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saying there's like natural evolutionary because reasons for so if we go all the way back to like
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the start of evolution sure women were known to stay more at the home or the little hut or whatever
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to take care of the cave right to take care of the children and the crops and the society one
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question one one question really quick one question wait wait i swear i'll let you finish i just got one
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quick question back in the hut days the cave days yeah were there air-conditioned office jobs no okay
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go ahead continue women were more likely to stay home because they were more valuable
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men can impregnate multiple women women can't be pregnant with multiple people at once you're
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saying so men were chosen women were more valuable back men were yep men were chosen to go out and hunt
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because if one of them dies in the hunt it's not as irreparable damage as if a woman died wait so
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women even historically speaking were more valued than men yes wouldn't that totally contradict
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can i just say one thing everything you've been saying so far because slowly as men realize that
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they could leverage the fact that they went out and quote-unquote provided can i just say one thing
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there would be no men without women so like okay there would be no women without men there would be no
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food stores without men okay but but well women could go hunt but men would say but women needed a
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protein men would say i'm we're gonna go hunt because if three out of ten men die it's way better
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for the society and is that your view no that's are you saying men are disposable just no well you just
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said it's better if men die in the olden days when there was no anything that was happening and it was
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just like caves and animals and fire yes it made more sense for men to go hunt sure if one man died
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you could still keep the society alive was the patriarchy stronger back then or does the patriarchy
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stronger now the patriarchy is stronger now the wait the hold on the patriarchy is stronger now of
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men thinking that they're greater than women and believing that they're more in charge of women what
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does that have to do with that is the patriarchy men controlling more of what's going on wait so
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today when women have the right to vote the patriarchy is stronger well there was no voting back
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then so well there was a period there was a period of time where more men had the right to vote well
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right when voting started was when the men of the very primal societies started being like wait we're
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hunting we're stronger and we can control you and slowly women started being pushed aside and being
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told you're only allowed to have women wait men religion emerged and men created a rhetoric that
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they were more valuable than women and even if that's not a value that's today like men aren't
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really allowed to say like men are better than women at this stage of life it was a big thing back then
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i actually i reject the premise but that men thought they were better than back then in the 1600s yeah
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i mean look i'm not a christian apologist but uh my understanding of christianity my hold on let me
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finish my understanding of christianity is that there's a there was a complementarian view in so far as
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men and women were different but in terms of uh your value as a human being you uh your your value uh
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there's a specific term that i'll have to look up there is actual equality between men and women
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in terms of your value your life value but in terms of differences of course there's differences between
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men and women and you would agree because you said that men are stronger than women and men were sent
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out to be disposable and if they died not a big deal so wouldn't you actually wouldn't you have to then
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make the argument that actually if women were more valued in society by by the means of protection you
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said well we're going to keep the women safe they don't have to go out and do the dangerous dirty
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activities hunting for example wouldn't this actually be evidence of like valuing women over
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men yeah okay so however i said slowly that started to shift because as different adventures popped up and
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religion popped up and studies popped up men who were quote unquote stronger and who created this
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whole rhetoric of like women need to stay home started evolving and excluding women from that
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started becoming like philosophers and people who created religion and people who created jobs
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those were all men okay and slowly they pushed women down because you know it's human it's human to want to be
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better than it's human to want to win it's it's survival however these men started just valuing
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women as objects let me ask you a question and slowly our necks like put down on the floor like
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you know like they the way society worked women were on the bottom and like with their
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life put down and men were just running i mean this is just fundamentally untrue how you okay you guys
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are committing an apex fallacy you're looking at a very small proportion of men and saying like do you
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genuinely think in like feudal europe that that all the men because they were men had like fantastic
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lives and men just loved it and all men had power the reality is i never said that 0.0001 of men had
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any sort of power there were some women who had some power and then if you look at the vast majority of
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everybody they had no power whatsoever both men and women were oppressed and you can make convincing
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arguments that actually men had it worse in many ways in what ways historically and modern day what
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ways yeah sure so men were uh were basically worker slaves worker bees they worked like extremely
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dangerous physically who made them do that how would that matter men that sounds like victim blaming
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that sounds like victim blaming to me but what would it matter question of who what does it have
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to do if they're men or not i could just make the i could just go to socioeconomic or class i could just
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be like it's the rich people why what does it matter if it's men there's only there's only two sexes
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because even though we can't prove it and that's why this argument is so you can't prove it
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okay you're gonna listen to me though are you gonna listen i'm go ahead even though we can't prove it
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men have been in the front lines of almost everything that has really gone wrong in the world
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and women have not been there and so women have always been there through proxy but men proxy of men
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controlling their lives no no how so you you're making the claim you have to present the evidence
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that the men were controlling their lives every queen had a king and the king was the ruler well actually
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she could get beat to death if she argued with him you know what i mean hold okay first off the if a
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king if he marries a woman she becomes the queen but he is the number one in power exactly but a queen
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she doesn't elevate like if she gets married she doesn't elevate that guy he doesn't become king he
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becomes queen consort so it's not like if the woman who was queen gets married that the man she's married
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to all of a sudden has like any sort of predomination in the relationship she has a father yeah wait hold
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on no if she's the queen the father's dead her father would have been the would have been the king
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and then the father is presumably that taught her everything she knew and that father would have
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also taught his sons in the same way are you talking about like and when i use this word i don't mean in
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the way most people take it you're talking about like grooming royalty like grooming for leadership yes
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that's exactly what happens yes but both sons and daughters were groomed into leadership positions
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no it was exactly the same but okay okay can i ask you a question so uh what do you like about
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your boyfriend i believe you're in a relationship right if you believe that women are better in
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many aspects so do you believe that you're better than your boyfriend in almost every single aspect
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you know talking about like a very small like one-on-one ideal
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maybe but you know not enough i acknowledge i acknowledge that in many ways you know and
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some of the arguments we have or whatever i tend to be a little bit more forgiving
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than he is i tend to be a little less emotional than he is however because he's a he's a really
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great person and he has been taught he has like eight sisters he's been taught he says all the time
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like i am the way i am because i've was raised by so many women so question do you feel like you have
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a more masculine role in the relationship seeing as he moved in with you which would typically be
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something like the girl would do with the guy you know no because i do acknowledge him as the
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masculine part however you know if you're talking about or dominant like like do you wear the pants
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in the family you know do you handle the finances do you technically yes but i enjoy i enjoy him
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being but would you say that's a non-traditional relationship yeah i would yeah so i think there's nothing
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wrong with having views and i feel like her relationship kind of mirrors her views like yeah
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and she has a submissive he knows what i believe in we have debates every once in a while like
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we're very open with talking with each other about this stuff and you know he's very comfortable
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with who i am i'm comfortable with who he is so you think he'll give you a round of applause
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by listening to this oh hell yes he will he listened to my whole charlie kirk thing he said he was
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on my side he was do you think never mind okay do i think what said he was just saying that to get
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in my pants how did you come to that conclusion i don't know the look in your eyes the look in my
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eyes like you wanted to instigate hold on here was the i i think i said was it because like that
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was the extent of the sentence how did you gather the only thing i could think that i want to just
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i just want to finish my point on the wage gap because i was pointing out how it's actually
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the wage gap could actually be uh due to sexism but due to women's sexism such as uh do you want
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a guy to pay for the first date i don't care you don't care i'll offer uh on the first date with
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your current boyfriend did he pay for the date i don't know i think we split it does he ever pay
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for dates yeah okay he asks all the time sometimes i'll like sneak up and like force him to pay it
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sounds like he i mean i'll force myself to pay like i'll sneak off be like i'm going to the bathroom
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and then i'll like slip my card let's hear from the rest of the panel uh yes do you want a
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guy to pay for the first date yes okay i paid for first sure i don't dispute that women on occasion
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will pay for a first date of all the first dates you've been on uh if you had to say like a
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percentage what percent of the time does the guy pay for the first date a lot of the guys that i
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date in my personal life are not as um financially they're broke yeah okay period uh but so but
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overwhelmingly okay majority uh the majority of the time do men pay for the first date for you
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um yeah when i'm going out on um there's different levels of guys i date there's guys that are hot and
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like that is that's the guys i will take out but the guys that are more of the husband material yes i
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would have been paid okay what about you do you uh when you go on first dates who pays for the date
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um definitely the men pay for the first date but it's just the first day doesn't mean he has to pay for
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any future date but of the okay of the people you have dated where it went beyond the first date
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was there still a pattern of him paying for dates beyond the first date um i think generally the men
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would pay for uh would have a bigger share of the cost uh but also depends on the income level
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socioeconomic status of the men i date so you're an attorney do you date many men who work at mcdonald's
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no no no you just but i bet if she met a really hot musician who like played oh yeah that's true
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she would totally potentially go out on some dates with him would you marry him would you marry a guy
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who made like fifty thousand dollars a year i think um just from a realistic standpoint it would be hard
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to have a long-term relationship because i have a different perception uh about money so if i want to
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go on an expensive vacation i don't want to cover 100 the cost for for a man who makes a lot less
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money than i do you would want to date a guy who makes maybe about as much as you yeah we're kind of
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less than me is okay um but at least we need to have like the same perception about money like for
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example um even if i'm dating a super rich guy but i want to go on an expensive vacation just to treat
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ourselves but then he'll be like no i want to save the money even though you make like a million
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dollars a year so i think it's all about whether your perceptions are aligned okay uh what about
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you for states do you pay does the guy pay i definitely prefer if the man pays and if it's
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a situation where we're splitting or i'm paying the guy definitely gets docked in boyfriend potential
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points oh so he like he almost gets friend zoned after that so let's say you're on a date you guys
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went out for dinner the waiter comes and he's like two checks you're saying you would dock points 100
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percent and i think would there be a second i think whoever picks the restaurant and let's say
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you pick a very very expensive restaurant then you should be willing to pay if the other party
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when the check comes doesn't reach what about you i think uh the man should pay on the first date
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what about you all the men should pay felicity what about you man should pay okay well maren you've
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heard uh quite a few yeah women here uh are any of you like consider yourself more liberal or feminist or
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uh i don't consider myself any of that are you consider yourself more liberal or i don't think
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i'm very liberal a little bit conservative i would say okay well so uh maren let's go ahead and just
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say that um yeah there are no liberal women no liberal women who ever want men to pay for first
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dates which i actually think is uh that's definitely there i think there's actually a lot of liberal
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women who still want men to yeah of course adhere to more traditional dating standards hold on
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it's always nice if a man pays it's always like oh thank you yeah but do you think men can get away
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with saying it's nice when women pay yes well they can get away with saying that it is nice when women
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pay sure i'll grant that but do you think that men can realistically go into a date with the expectation
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that the woman's going to pay the entire bill i wouldn't say anyone should go into a date
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expecting that someone's going to pay the entire bill i've only been on a couple dates i've always
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said i'll pay for my food i don't it's a first date you don't even know me we might not even get along
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how many first dates have you been on less than five have you split all of them or has the guy ever
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paid you split all of them um sometimes they're like no please let me pay please let me pay and i'm not
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gonna say no but i'll say no i promise i can pay i don't want you to pay my whole bill we just met
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and sometimes they'll be like it's okay fine you can pay and i'm totally fine paying and it doesn't
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mean i'm gonna count them out of my life sure but so i guess to just i guess wrap up on this the
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argument that i was making here is that even if there was only say 50 percent of the population of
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the female population that had a strong preference towards men being providers and for men paying for
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dates men paying in other ways whatever it is this would actually indicate that there's a mating
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pressure that exists on men that doesn't exist the other way but so by by women's own dating
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preferences and this is not just i think a social construct but also i think there's a biological
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evolutionary basis for women wanting uh providers and when you're talking about the the days of huts
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and the days of caves you know the the men went out and hunted and the women stayed the men were
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providers the men were protectors i think based on women's own stated not just stated but actual
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preferences as it relates to what they find attractive in a long-term partner which typically
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relates to a man who's capable of providing uh and you have you heard it from here we've heard it a
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bunch from women on the show if the guy won't pay for the first date that's it i think that this
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i said you got docked points okay fair enough whatever it is you can redeem yourself yeah i guess
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okay but he has to work harder in some other metrics because anytime you're on a first date
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hold on let me make that's fine okay i'm not going to get into the weeds with you i'm going
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to finish my point do you pay for the date when you're going out on your first date do you pay for
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dinner yeah i pay so the point i was trying to make here is that if women have this mating pressure
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that exists that doesn't exist the other way back like i if if i'm going to be going out on a date
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with a woman there's no world that exists where i'm going to either have the assumption like women
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do or even think it's a possibility that when i go on a date with her she's going to pay the entire
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thing it's dubious if she'll even go 50 50 i've had that that's happened but the majority of the
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time there is a very strong expectation that men are going to pay on first dates this is something
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this is not like some patriarchal system this is actually a system hold on i'll get to you in a sec
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this is a system that women enforce this isn't like men aren't forcing women to have a preference
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towards providers i'm sure men would like be super enthused if women were just simping for them
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all the time and just like here's money taking them on dates the reality is is women place a mating
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pressure on men that doesn't exist the other way and this and there's plenty of other factors but i
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think looking at this alone would explain any supposed or alleged wage gap that exists because if
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men if essentially it boils down to this women are saying you can't have sex with me you can't be in
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a relationship with me you won't be able to reproduce which is like a biological imperative
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for both sexes but as it relates to men all need each other for sure but if women are basically saying
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i won't date you i won't have sex with you i won't give you my time i won't give you my attention i won't
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give you children down the road essentially because dating leads to relationship leads to
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marriage leads to children seems like that's a really big mating pressure on men so if men like
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somewhere back either it's in their conscious or subconscious brain are thinking if i don't have
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a high paying high status job and that's going to prevent me from getting a partner and getting
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a woman and eventually having children i think that that would be a massive motivating pressure
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that women are putting on men that would lead them to greater motivation and greater achievement
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and ultimately uh greater earnings so the earnings gap the wage gap whatever you like to call it
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is actually explained by women's sexism go ahead if i i understand where you're coming from however if
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you take what you're saying and put it towards the history of the world let's just talk about the us for
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a second the history of the us 50s 40s 30s 20s 10s what about it men had the jobs and women often had no
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job women offer often were not invited to have a job and women often just weren't even allowed to have a
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job their job was to find a man get married and have children so uh women have always worked but
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but but what in like a small factory for a penny an hour while men were in like actual jobs you think
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in the 1920s there were like a an abundance of cushy jobs like 99 percent hold on 99 of men had like
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and they had super dangerous and women weren't allowed to work in those jobs wait let me ask you
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a question no no that's fine let me ask you a question you're living can i finish my one quick
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question and i promise i'll let you finish okay you're living in 1930s 1920s pennsylvania yeah with
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the coal mines right you have a choice you can go into the coal mines as a woman you can be the first
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course well hold on i'm asking is my favorite movie so okay great so pittsburgh totally great
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thank you for that non sequitur so anyways let's say you had a choice you could go into the coal mines
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okay and get black lung yeah and die like in your 30s or 40s of lung cancer totally or or you could stay
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home and be a homemaker which would you prefer which was i allowed to do what no which would you prefer
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if i was broke probably a coal miner because people no that's my answer no but hold on answer
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the question if you had the choice and here are your two choices to be a homemaker and your husband
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goes into the coal mines or you get to go into the coal mines and i guess your husband stays home i
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don't know what the deal is but the problem with your question what's the problem with the question
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is that women back then did not get a choice okay sure i'm gonna they were they were told you can't
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work in this coal mine too dangerous for you too whatever i'm not sure they were told your job is
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to be a homemaker even if you don't have kids no no i'm even if you don't have kids your job as a
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woman is not to work in some sort of a physical demanding job it's not to be a ceo it's not to be
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anything that no but it's not to be anything that involves work women do not really get jobs you can be
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a receptionist in the 50s if you want but other than that women were not given the choice even if
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you're a single one by yourself with no kids who needs money because you're going to be homeless
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are you going to answer my question i'm answering right now you're not answering you were not given
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the choice to work women did have the choice to work and they did work barely what like triangle
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shirtwaist factory like it was not a situation where lots of women were available to work
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and so through generations and slow decline where women were slowly able to work more it was still
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a very normal like almost taught thing for women to not work and nowadays it's so much common for women
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to work which is great however do you want to answer the question though what's what is it okay
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if you had a choice between being a homemaker or working in a coal mine and like dying of emphysema
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in your 40s in 1920s sure i wouldn't get the choice that's my choice let's say you did it's a hypothetical
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if i begged and pleaded it has nothing to do with i would pick the coal mine you know what they're
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putting out the coal mines putting out a program they're like we're gonna hire one woman so you do get
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the choice in i would want to work you'd want to you'd prefer to work in the coal mine than be a
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homemaker yes really if i was by myself and i didn't have money and i needed money to live
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yeah i'd rather work in the coal mine that's not really that the purview of the hypothetical
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you're adding the hypothetical doesn't make any sense
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i'm trying if i had the choice and my life was perfect obviously i wouldn't want to work in a coal
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mine but back then there weren't that many options and if i was a poor woman who didn't have a source
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of income who didn't have a husband i would much rather work in a coal mine than sit in a house by
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myself a house i couldn't afford because i didn't have a job because i wasn't allowed one i would have
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to marry a man that is my job back then throughout this this claim that women weren't allowed to work
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through history is just demonstrably false women have always been able to work but what out of a hundred
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women ten women could work all women could work but many women opted it was just the sort of the
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you're so wrong about that how am i wrong because women were often never hired and if they were hired
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they were hired for much less money than they deserved what evidence do you have for this history books
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okay let me ask you a question and i want to move off of the wage gap here pretty soon my grandpa was a
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coal miner so just okay thank you i just heard that i was like this my time if it was actually
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the case that women were paid more than men what's actually stopping companies and what you would agree
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that companies their goal is to make money okay like do you think most like do you think would you
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agree with me that corporations are extremely greedy yes and their primary goal is to is to generate
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profit yeah like you would agree that you might say that corporations like there's a there is sexism
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in corporations you'd probably argue that because men occupy the highest positions in these corporations
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like they're part of the executive team they're part of the board whatever the uh ceos etc uh you
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would say that there uh there could be sexism in these corporations there could be right or you
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probably say that there is so but you would agree that also corporations primary motive is profit and money
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yeah of course okay so do you think that corporations prioritize their alleged or supposed
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sexism over making money no okay so then if that was genuinely the case that you could genuinely get
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away with paying women less what is stopping from corporations just exclusively hiring women and saving
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like 30 percent or 20 percent on their payroll expenses and beating out their competitors by only hiring women
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because men believe that men make more money and men are better at their jobs so a ceo man who is sexist
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i mean i don't know these people but you're saying it's the case that women are just as good as men yeah
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okay so then if that's the case if that's your worldview that's mine that's not a man that's not every
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man's worldview okay so but what is again if it's actually true that you can get away with paying these
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women 30 percent 20 percent why don't the companies just hire women because they don't like women but
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i thought profit was the ultimate motivator not just like boys club sexism yeah but they'll get a
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they're scared they're gonna get a what's it called a lawsuit they're scared they're gonna get a lawsuit
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a sexism lawsuit an ageism lawsuit a pregnancy lawsuit they're scared there's literally women there's only
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there's gyms just for women out here in uh in the valley and men sued because they can't come in so
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like people okay sure it's uh well i guess you're not hypothetical situation if you can bring in a male
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ceo who is known for discriminating against women and ask him these questions and he gives you real
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answers i'd love to see that however they're all going to tell you bullshit what are they going to tell
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you that the men they hire are just great and they didn't mean to discriminate and
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they didn't mean to do any of this stuff but it's you know it's hard to get the truth out of these
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people but if you look at everything i mean the thing is is that um this wage gap thing it's been
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legislated against since the 1960s so so if you can prove as a woman that there is an actual uh
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discrepancy between wages between your male co-workers you can bring a lawsuit but that's the
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problem is people do things so secretively now ageism racism sexism all of it but that can be
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done in such ways where it's avoidable to be sued against i think look ultimately it's definitely
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not as bad as it used to be i'm not saying like the sexism in the workplace is as bad as it was in
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the 60s or 50s it's way better now and i'm so grateful that it's better now however it still exists
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and acknowledging that it's still even if it's like only five percent exists it's still there
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so you're saying 95 cents to a dollar i don't i don't know what do you think is the number i don't
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know well you said there's a wage gap you would have to articulate what that is it depends on each
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person what do you think about google for example they did this internal audit hoping to reinforce some
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of this feminist nonsense and it actually found that uh they were overpaying women
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okay so this would this be evidence of sexism against men yeah they can take it down they can
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do whatever they want why were they paying more women before that like because they the men were
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okay so they were paying those women more because they were not paying women properly so they're going
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to overcompensate that time because women were not getting paid a lot so then when they want to look
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good they want to look good to society no no just i'm asking i'm asking did they find out why they
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were paying women was a woman she well wouldn't you wouldn't you hold on so what do you mean by why
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i mean or how they say like oh we accidentally did this or were they doing that on purpose well let me
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ask you quite what what would it actually matter if it's on purpose or not because if they accidentally
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said oh all these women's performances were just better and we gave them raises and we didn't realize
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that it was only women wouldn't that have to play the apply the other way towards men too yeah but you
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would make the claim if like there was actually merit for the men being paid more for whatever reason
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that is uh you would probably make the argument that that would be due to like sexism and the wage gap
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you can't say probably if if a company showed proof that all the men were working harder and
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doing better than the women i would have zero problem with the men being paid more than the
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women of that company wouldn't you just argue that oh it's just the boys club just it depends well
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that's i mean isn't that the basis of your whole argument just depends though okay everything just
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depends so if it's the case that you found a company where yeah the men were making 10 more you
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would probably say there must be a wage gap due to sexism but if the women is it every single man
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of the company even one who has no position that's better than a woman and the women are making less
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than the men who they're higher than maybe then it's worth looking into but if it's a very obvious
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just distribution of wealth like the men are actually doing better than the women and you know
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some men are getting paid less but some women are getting paid more but most men are getting paid
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more then you can say you know it's the company's it's the company's job to pay who's doing better
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so you you do acknowledge there are scenarios in which the men are genuinely doing better ergo
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they deserve to be paid more yeah i've never said that's wrong it's when a company pays men who are
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even doing worse than women way more than women then it's a problem well how would you how would you
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establish that if they can show proof and in which case i would agree with you they could bring some
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sort of sex sex discrimination lawsuit okay okay but it's not clear to me if that's even happening
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like on a wide scale okay again look i'll just i can only repeat myself here at this point the wage
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gap is simply argued away it's an earnings gap it simply compares all the earnings of men to all the
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earnings of women and not factoring in yeah okay you're talking about the wage gap like if a man and a
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women apply for the exact same position the payment difference i'm not talking about more women don't
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have jobs than men and women make less than men overall per capita of the entire u.s yeah couldn't
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you see a difference between two men though so for example one of the men negotiates for a higher
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salary than the other man does same job it's same exact job but i mean wouldn't you agree that there's a
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there's a component of the company is going to make you an offer and then there's going to be a
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negotiation some people might not even negotiate and they're just going to take the first offer
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that comes to them goes back to her point about women stereotypically don't know how to negotiate
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for themselves and ask more some men who maybe weren't raised with a good relationship with money
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or how if their parents weren't wealthy they don't know that they can negotiate for more so it is all
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based on i think how you were raised but also a lot of the time women who speak up from themselves
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are told that they are like aggressive and disrespectful and rude and a lot of us men who
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speak up from themselves about money are like ambitious and awesome and they're going for it
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you know so it's it's just there's so many different factors i got to read a couple chats here we do have
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to move it on but freaky men oh from the freaky men uh claim uh where is andrew these chair one hello
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where is andrew i don't have the characters to explain how wrong chair one is about everything
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she says ever seen a woman give in during a divorce or do they fight tooth and nail
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if you're talking about andrew the one that said rape is good if the woman enjoys it sorry if the
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woman at his essayed and she orgasms that's a good thing i don't think you're really idolizing the
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correct person um you do realize i mean that's that andrew that's on andrew but that is on andrew
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hold on where's the pickle jar so it's clipped entirely leaving out critical context such as prior
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okay let me ask you a question if you were to say i think it's bad if uh or you you would frame it like
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this you were to say i think it's bad when people uh are racist or hold on what's the best framing for this
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i can't think of an example you could agree though that there could be a situation where
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somebody gets clipped out of context correct okay like and it could be edited in such a malicious way to
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make it appear as if you said something that you didn't or left out context there's also ai well
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that whole clip was um a little bit not use that like if you even did you let me ask you no no that's
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fine let me ask you a question uh the clip in reference did you watch the whole debate well
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any statement the question's not for you i'm just saying like it whatever he said no context would be
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okay with that from start did you watch no from second one to second zero of the entire episode
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that's multiple hours did you even did you even watch like the debate like when i say the debate
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did you actually watch seconds of that debate did you just see clips no okay so you you tuned into our
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video and you watched that segment yeah okay tell me what was proceeding from where the clip began
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they were talking about grape and no they weren't wow you're a total sheep you're not you didn't even
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watch the clip and you you you fell for it sorry you fell for it deceptively talking about they
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andrew was doing an internal critique of uh oliver's position if i recall correctly oliver was saying
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they were talking about something totally unrelated to that and oliver was saying well there's an exception
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there's an exception to what you're saying and again you're gonna have to talk to andrew about
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this not my fucking position um but and then andrew was saying well hold on let me test your logic here
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this terrible thing uh if some of the people that this terrible thing happens to if they'd enjoy it
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would that point towards that thing being good no what do you mean no that's literally the basis of it
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being good right so he was doing an internal critique of oliver oliver by the way who has
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some allegations towards him as it relates to when he was a bit younger he had been he exposed himself
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to a minor and he said the following he said the following and this is actually funny so somebody could
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do the same exact thing so i how do i frame it so i don't get fucking clipped for what somebody else
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said he said that he thinks it's uh he said i manipulated women into doing things that they
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didn't want to do that's what oliver said so okay that's the character of the person who did the
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misleading clip of course right so but it's clear you didn't watch the whole thing i i said that i
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didn't watch right but so the clip is deceptively edited okay in like honestly a completely disgusting
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way of course to make it seem like andrew was suggesting something or essentially being a grape
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apologist okay which if you actually watch the whole clip not the case at all okay well it was an
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interesting take for him to say in that way anyway but that wasn't the question the question was just
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where is andrew so i said if that's who you're idolizing maybe take a check on that and i wasn't
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saying anything else um i don't even remember what the rest of the question for that person
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do women give up during divorce oh i mean it depends on why they're divorcing i mean
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women who divorce who get married super young to an old guy for money maybe no they don't give up or
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whatever but women who are divorcing for genuine reason then yeah i don't really know what your point
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what that do you think context do you think context matters for the divorce no just in general of what
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well going back to the the andrew thing the andrew thing yeah of course context matters yeah um but
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that statement was strange regardless well so before the show i actually warned andrew and i said
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fucking warned andrew was all i was i warned andrew and i was like andrew don't say some
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shit that he's gonna fucking clip was the one he was debating against oliver oliver's the guy he was
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debating okay yeah so he did it to jim bob who he debated against before coercion is bad so
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oliver using coercion to sleep with women when you like to someone about anything that's still
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considered uh grape if you lie about yeah if you lie about your identity that's still great
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because the girl never consented for to your lie the woman never consented but that's not the point
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the point is did andrew get clipped and he got clipped i guess but
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yeah i mean look i'm not going to do the whole spiel with uh with all that so okay
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all right inquisitor zeal uh can you read this please oh my god is it not pulling up hold on
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go ahead read it chair one is correct about women being controlled by patriarchal culture
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everyone was we've abolished that and our civilization is collapsing congrats you've
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proven women must be oppressed forever that must be that's why the society is not
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fucking working because of because we were oppressed for so long we're finally like saying no
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we're finally like like mice in my picture i am a sex worker i see the real world for what it is i
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hang out with ceos all the time like real ceos that you guys talk about working for i'm not going to
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blow them up but like they like to party they like to hang out they cheat on their wives so all right
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clint uh read this from clint she is delusional i am in a very competitive field the percentage of women
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applying get hired more than the percentage of men applying get hired they also get paid the same
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not based on sex but based on seniority seniority why are they hearing getting hired more because
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prior they were not getting hired so it's like the leveling balance we need to balance it up all
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men were working working working now women want to it's my only issue is at clean or whatever like
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we don't know what you actually do in my industry guys don't get paid as much sitting in your room
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like we don't know what you actually do yeah but my guys in my industry don't get paid as much we as
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women we wake substantially more than them so it's like you want to say no i just think you know i'm
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listening it's fascinating it's interesting but for me this conversation is almost um it's hard to
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understand um as a woman because i'm listening to women i am a woman and i'm thinking why don't i
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understand so i'm trying to focus on myself and see why what is it about me that so the question is
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why i never in my life i felt discriminated as a woman why i never lived the experience of being
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paid less as a man actually it's the opposite so why i never felt that i know you might have the
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confidence to like ask for more a lot of women don't have that okay i was actually going to say
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that when that was mentioned because she's it was mentioned here that men are more into hey i can
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negotiate i can ask for excuse me i can do that and i've done it and i've done it and i do it i still do
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it so i don't think that has to do with what if we if we have ovaries or or of course or a prostate
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you know what i mean i don't think it has to do with a the if we're a woman or a man i think it has
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to do with your education and what you choose because i charge 150 dollars for one piano class
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you know and i am a flight attendant too and the men the guys that are working as flight attendants they
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make the exact same money that i do yeah so that's what i find it fascinating i'm learning i don't
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know i it i know it happened before women were able to all right i gotta move it on go ahead read this
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sorry about that jang king meow jang i don't know how to say that his wife played a leading role in
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enforcing purges during the cultural revolution she is directly tied to an estimate a hundred thousand
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to a million deaths she was arrested and convicted for this but do you see how you refer to her as
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that guy's wife you don't refer to her as who she actually is she is under her husband's probable
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control i mean i can't prove it because i don't know her and she's not alive today to say that
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but you literally referred to her as this guy's wife not this woman because it was his wife it was
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not her you know who is um her husband no her husband is chairman mao the founding father yeah
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people's republic of china of course if you simply bring up her name nobody would know like who the
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heck this is so just to clarify they have to emphasize okay this is someone's wife but you don't
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think chairman mao's wife was at all manipulated by chairman mao to do things you think she was
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completely in control what if she wait hold on what if she was the fuck you scared me what
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when i'm asking her though what's your question again you don't think chairman's now chairman mao's
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wife was you think she was completely in control of her own decisions i mean i wasn't living in that
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age so i'm not clearly sure about what happened in the history but unless you have some sort of
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evidence to show me that she was manipulated by the husband yeah you're if you're you're making
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the claim you're going to have to provide evidence that he was manipulating her what if it's actually
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the case that she was like a more fervent ideological supporter of communism maybe she was more of a
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hardcore communist than he was yeah quote unquote maybe but if you look at what happened in history it
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wasn't like she was on the name of all the history books it was him he did all the things and if she
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did part of it you'd have to assume that he had a play in that because at the time even still people
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there men have more power even political power it's not fair to you to say well maybe she was pulling the
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strings you don't know it's like okay but if you look at what was happening he was pulling the strings
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you don't know if she was being manipulated exactly in a world where war is profitable people like
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that's what the society will want to push for you know that's what that's what that's what the
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society's please speak into microphones all right read this chair one women couldn't find work in the
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1920s common female occupations included factory work domestic service teaching nursing and clear
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clear how do you clerical work clerical work never seen that word before like typing bookkeeping bbc
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thank you there wasn't there wasn't like a law there was not a law on the book saying women couldn't work
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i know that however if you look at what was going on it was not common for women to work it was actually
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discouraged you were seen as less than if you had a job such as that because your entire job was
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supposed to be marrying a man and having children do you think that women wanted to work back then or did
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they want to build families they were taught to want to build families is that a bad thing i mean
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in the grand scope of what's happening in the world then yeah everyone should have been taught to be
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equal men should take care of the family as much as women and women should work and so should men
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everyone should work women should have time off for giving birth and pushing a whole human out of them
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for sure but it shouldn't be a normalized thing that women shouldn't have to work at all and men
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should only have to work because if you enforce that then companies only want to hire men and not
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women and then women who don't have husbands are seen as less than than a woman who has a husband or
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a man attached to her and that just reinforces the entire idea of the patriarchy of course women were
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able to work they were seen as less than they were paid less than and they were like just discriminated
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against if they tried to work they were paid less because it wasn't as hard of a job as the men did
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because they weren't allowed to have as hard of jobs listen if you know wait wait i'm sorry
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women didn't have women literally couldn't do the jobs they could but they were not as allowed
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do you do you hold on do you think women have the same physical strength as men right they could
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no no no no yeah but specifically no here but again yeah but into your mic down please tilt your mic
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down but in today's world strength doesn't even matter we have machines but your claim was about
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historical work okay where physical strength mining women can do that building women can do that
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hold on no no no women don't have the requisite general strength to do a lot of these professions
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if it was true why why if they if men and women's physical strength was equal then they would be in
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these positions women have to work harder to gain more muscle that is true men have are easy it's
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easier for men to gain muscle and be stronger but however okay go ahead in the coal mines in the
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buildings in whatever women can still have jobs there not everything is based off of physical
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strength our machines not taking over men and women well we're talking about but you're talking
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just right you're talking historically but we're and a lot of this but a lot of this machinery still
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today that makes physical labor easier still requires a degree of physical strength to operate
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but you think like a jackhammer like instead of instead of swinging a pickaxe to like break up
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stones we have like jack hammers but that it requires physical strength to hold the jackhammer
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to keep it steady etc and are you saying women are incapable of having physical strength no that's
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not what i'm saying i'm saying that generally speaking and you i'm assuming you're going to agree
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with me on this generally speaking men are stronger than women descriptively in science men are able to gain
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more muscle mass than women they're just naturally however stronger than women however if a woman
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puts her mind to it and tries very hard she could still have a job similar to a man's
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and how many how many withstand more pain why is transgender athletes such a controversy now if you
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think men women have equal physical strength well i don't think transgender should be in a woman's
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sport at all yeah that's um that's definitely everyone's opinion but the reason why it's such
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a controversial topic is because these transgender women they still have more physical strength because
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they were born to be they were born as men so she was right it's depending on when they decided to
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transition if they transitioned at a certain time they never developed those men uh aspects and they
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always develop only women aspects i mean i know i know a lot of trans women if a man starts transitioning
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at 11 that's he never they don't have the male physical strength that gives them an advantage in
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some sort of a sport i mean i would probably dispute this because my my position on this is that uh the
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sole difference between men and women is not exclusively relegated to the endocrine system so what you're
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talking about is uh if they're taking puberty blockers but like there's skeletal differences
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there's other differences like lung capacity for example so again even if they do transition at a
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younger age uh yes that's going to have that will have some impact on the musculoskeletal system
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but there are still going to be certain differences between like like a trans women are more women and
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more feminine than any any woman in this room like they're they take their womanisms very seriously
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they take they take being like a feminine like a fucking job most women don't even care about
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i'm sorry are you gonna are you gonna argue that trans women are more women like they're better
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women than women so you're saying men are better women than men yeah because they know exactly what
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you're gonna have to wrap your head around that one so is it so are men better women than women
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my sister is more manlier than my trans friend my trans friend is more feminine more ladylike more
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in her feminine aspect of her life than any like a transgender is not more feminine and more woman
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than i am we are talking about physical strength here physical appearance like how nice your skin is
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doesn't have to do anything with how you can excel in a sport yeah my feminine my my trans friend would
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never even try to join a sport because she was she never like wanted to compete like i believe brian
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was talking about the muscle mass and the lung capacity and i know a large percentage of american
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men who only play video games can barely do a sit-up let alone a pull-up and they're okay can you do a
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i don't know what we're talking yes i can i was a gymnast for most of my life i don't know what we're
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talking about right now i think we're just going out we gotta stop we got here's what we have to do
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though we we can't like always go to the exception i'm gonna sit here and agree with you there are
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definitely individual women who are way stronger than men who could beat up men but what i'm talking
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about is if we're just talking about generalities the majority of men are stronger than the majority
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so yes is there like are there women out there who are stronger there's women there's women who are
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stronger than me off the street and asked them to do a fitness test do i think that women might
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perform better than men currently possibly as in if you pull 12 random people six men six women and
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ask them to do a fitness test i've met a lot of out of shape men recently so i'm saying i think women
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take care of themselves in their um youth because they know that they're supposed to be attractive for
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men and there's a lot of men that have gone into very lazy professions where physical work
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is a part of somebody over here wanted to weigh in or i just wanted to say something quickly i think
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that brian is pointing at we are this side is pointing at exceptions exceptions to the rule but
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in in general let's say the coal mines today not no time before if we have today the coal mines like
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back then and we have today or back then let's say today listen today because i'm not going to talk
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about the coal mines in 2025 yes no i'm not talking about like values i'm talking about strength okay let's
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say today you put a man a 30 year old man and a 30 year old woman healthy without exception 100
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healthy to go work at the coal mines let's see how many buckets of coal the men can bring out in two
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hours and how many buckets of coal can the woman bring depends if they were taught how to work the
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machine no no that's what i'm saying from zero they just learn you know healthy the man is going to do
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more because it's biologically proven scientifically proven if i am the owner of that mine i'm going to
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pay more than man because he brings 30 buckets and the woman brings 25 maybe and i think that's the
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difference it's not because the man is better it's scientifically biologically it is what it is so he's
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going to get paid better now as a work as a woman nothing comes to my mind that a woman is better doing
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it i don't know i have to think about it maybe the woman is paid is getting paid better but i don't see
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that has been underestimated is who gives more who works better i think we're talking about the
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third variable as a minored in sociology you need three variables to be able to judge someone so you
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can't just judge someone on man woman and their job you need a third variable well what's the third
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variable like race class and gender you can't just judge someone off racing class wait you need three
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variables to draw a conclusion minimum is but hold on why would you need okay if if the question is
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stereotypes in america but stereotypes if the question is who is physically stronger on average
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men or women what would the third variable like what's the third variable needed to determine
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do they not work out so let's say no wait let's say let's say that a man and a woman are twins they're
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born at the same time they work out they have the same eating schedule same workout schedule the man is
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going to get stronger than the woman that is true and that because of biology she's correct however
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does that mean that a woman is less than the man no that's not what we're talking about okay
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in the coal mines that might have mattered we moved past that but the argument here is is
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okay so if it is the case hold on hold on god damn let me finish please stop interrupting
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if it is the case that historically the majority of available jobs were physical in nature that's
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not true anymore doctors how many doctors are there makers clothing makers i would argue that even
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like a shoemaker requires like muscular strength in the arms and dexterity and no but back then
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i'm not an expert in like what is the call called when you're there's a specific term when you're a
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shoemaker like a what's called cobbler cobbler like there's probably some level of physicality even
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involved in that um in any case the if it is the if it is the case that the majority of jobs historically
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did require some degree of physical strength this would seem to and if it's the also the case that men
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are just generally physically stronger than women is it any surprise that men were more likely to
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occupy these positions it was purely because of the way society was set up because if women were taught
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to grow strong from a young age and fight to work jobs they could have easily worked those jobs and i get
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that men are stronger physically however if a woman really tried she could get as strong as a man in that
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capacity you sure yeah i'm positive so wait just let me ask you this then if we were to look at the
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strongest so the the strongest man and the strongest woman yeah to have ever existed right or how about
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alive today you would say that their strength is equal i mean i don't know the strongest man or the
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strongest woman so i'm not sure however it's objective it's literally objective however here's 500
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pounds can you lift it go ahead however in the olden days what we're talking about tell me the
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olden days yeah there's no gyms there's just work there's just birth and work i agree if a woman was
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taught to plow fields with her brother and do all that shit with her brother the same time same exact
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teaching styles she could do the same thing so what what do you do when you're plowing a field i don't
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know i've never plowed are you lifting things with your upper body strength no i've never plowed a
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field you should try plow a stonework stonework cobbling work no i don't lift i run you're tall
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i don't feel like lifting i don't want to be strong i think you could do well i probably could if i
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really wanted to you would kill it mary thank you you would kill it in the fields thank you back to the
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fields you go um look the strongest woman to have ever lived isn't even approaching like
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well that's with everything we have today with the weight lifting and the whatever and people
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spent their entire lives dedicated to getting stronger in the olden days what we're talking
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about right now people did not care they just wanted to work and what i was saying is that even
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though women would be capable to work those jobs society set them up to not work those jobs on purpose
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that's all i'm saying well it's not just on purpose it is on purpose there's there's a there's
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just a strength component to it that cannot be ignored but what i just said no but you're saying
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well if these women and look i think that there are women who if they're really strong i think they can
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do the job my argument is if you have a hundred men and a hundred women and both of them you put both of
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them through uh well you're saying the same training the same training and they're both like
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athletic birth same food same everything you do all of that those hundred men are going to be
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stronger than all of those women well maybe the women would find out a way to do it without all the
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strength what work smarter work smarter how okay here's the men do it yeah here's the task here's the
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task i'm a dog move this pile of rocks that each weigh 70 pounds from point a to point b right okay
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men due to their physical strength are going to be superior at women will come up with like a way to
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pull it and so do men so did men i just don't think but the problem with your argument is there's no
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historical value to say that women would not do better because women were never given the chance that's
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all i'm saying there is a precedence for it women were never given the chance to try it's hold on
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why you agree you agree it's a given that men are physically stronger okay and do you think
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historically people also just knew men stronger than women because they forced women to not try yes
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are you saying that physical strength is a social uh like a social structure a little bit you're saying
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it's it's subjective social like physical strength muscular men are attractive muscular women are ugly
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and manly that's a whole thing i've seen that everywhere women who weight lift women who do
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boxing they're not seen as attractive because they're muscular and that is historic and i'm telling
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you right now and that is today's world in the olden days a woman had muscle that's like vile that's
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like against the rights of women against the wait what against the rights of women women have wait
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what rights what hold on what are you talking about women because women were supposed to be weak look
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pretty women are pretty and be tiny maybe you are women are weak maybe you are and also i just don't
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understand like why do you have to make it a social thing because it's just not a good use of
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efficiency if you send women to plot a few why don't you just take the advantage of your each other's
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talents and maybe women are better doing some other jobs like maybe so like what giving birth
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that's why that's not a job that's a part of life that's why you know picking the cherries you know
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everyone has their own strengths we don't we're not trying to diminish men men have their their
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strengths and we have our strengths we're trying to come together as a society we don't want to
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get away from men we love men we want men to just treat us equally and like respect us and not
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like because this is hard because the second men the second men say we're stronger we can do more
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is the second they started having why are you guys comparing yourself your logic that they're
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stronger biologically and what about it is it to me hold on hold on and what about it there's no i
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want to hear what she wants to say about it say it go ahead say it men are biologically stronger no one
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said no so therefore it's therefore they're going to be the ones doing the harder jobs that require
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more strength i.e why women couldn't do the coal mine the construction the whatever you say that they
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didn't get the opportunity to do it's because they're weaker than men and that's why they didn't
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get the opportunity it's not because society made it this way yeah also i agree that men having more
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physical strength doesn't mean they're superior to women and uh this is totally outside the topic
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because a man who is physically we can still treat women like and can still disrespect them but do you
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realize that especially in the olden days when strength actually mattered and even recently men
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like say that being stronger and working in the olden days makes them better than women
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because i've seen that everywhere arguing that nobody's arguing that what it sounds like can we
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agree on this descriptively is it true that men are physically stronger than women they can be in
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some certain aspects it's not just that they can be it's that they are i don't know i know you're
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not going to grant that no i agree with yes there are weak men i don't dispute that if every man and
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every woman on the entire planet did the exact same nutrition routine the exact same workout routine
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physically yes men could be stronger could no would be would be would be stronger however that's not
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the case so if they did studies and showed like they they did this study with like 10 000 women the
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grip strength for example men have orders of magnitude greater grip strength than women so if we're
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looking at upper body strength which is sort of predominated as it relates to physical labor
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typically uh although there's you know there's some component of lower body strength but men are
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also stronger in their lower bodies okay now but would you agree that descriptively that that's true
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yeah does that mean they deserve more rights than women that's not what we're arguing we're just saying
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that i never said they weren't stronger you seem to be making the kit you're arguing well i'm just saying
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if the men and women started out in these jobs i've said since the beginning if they started off
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the same job same diet whatever men would be stronger however that's not the case because
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women have never been given the chance to do any of that okay sure but if if women were given the
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chance at the same starting point to start working in these jobs and through like you know whatever
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it's swinging a pickaxe or digging digging with a shovel okay i still would argue that even if you had a
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woman working the same amount of hours as a man it's not even clear to me if they would have that
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sort of uh ability to even work the same length of time as a man in a physical capacity uh they
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wouldn't they would not be able to develop the same level of strength as a man even if they started at
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the exact same time okay we have your point is a body like our body you're saying i'm wondering what
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the point of the strength argument even is i think the point of the strength there is that it's nothing
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to do with the men being better than women it's a scientifically proven it's biology and it's a fact
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and because they're and because they are stronger they can do work that we cannot do and if we do it
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we could do it but we're not going to do it as good as they do it because we don't have the strength
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that they have and i would like to mention another thing with your permission um back then it wasn't
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only that the women were not given the opportunity i think we all agree that back then as much as
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women were not allowed to vote and they were putting down in other social uh you know points back then
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people were more supporting family who would raise those kids who would take care of the kids
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another thing they all also support um and family and religion and all the all all that was so close
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together that the women were at home taking care of the kids doing the the you know the housework
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and going to church on sundays it was a completely different thing how depressed were those women it was
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different but today today today they don't it's completely different but you know what i support family
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100 and that's what i was taught and i am so grateful for that and to see my parents together
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until the last day and to see my mother taking care of me and my sister i'm grateful to heaven today and
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my mother was not discriminated it was a different level of priorities but that's what i think but in
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general the difference of priorities if a woman's priority is to be a homemaker and have a family which is
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totally normal for women to want that like i'd love that it'd be great if that's a woman's priority
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and the whole society the whole country the whole world believes that a woman's priority is to be the
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homemaker and the family maker then that counts out the other women who don't want a husband who
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don't have a husband who are gay who whatever all of those people wait but all of those people who are
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taught that they have to be a family maker and a homemaker are suddenly left out of the job equation all
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right and that's unfair okay a couple questions here and then i'm i've got to move this on um perfect
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oh yes if i could show you for example if we are looking at the apex of both men and women so for
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example the u.s women's soccer team got completely destroyed by uh like an out like a under 18 boys team
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okay boys are innate having more no but what's the point of that question well the point the point
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is that if we look at sports for example if we look at sports so if you look at elite female athletes
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if they were men with their same scores they would not be able to even qualify to compete in the
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olympics for example okay so if you look at running for example men are faster than women if you look at
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strength sports men are stronger than women there's this website that we've pulled up a whole bunch
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of times have a man get a wax let's see how strong he is then no let's can you finish can you finish the
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point yeah the the point is essentially that if we look at sporting uh sporting events men in that
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dimension and so you would have to agree that uh the elite female athletes most female athletes who are
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elite start at a very young age so they have all the things that you mentioned the good nutrition all
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this other stuff they've been involved in the sport since most olympic athletes have been doing the
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sport since they were like children or whatever uh but if you were to place the women and have them
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compete with the men the men would completely dominate so the strongest women the apex of women you put
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them against the strongest men the men outperform the women even if the women had that base level
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foundation of nutrition and like training that's why women and men compete separate first of all
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second of all men are taller that is just part of life and they're also physically stronger okay they
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have more muscle density okay okay but also men and women have different coaches oh no maryn you're
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killing me here oh the coaches the coaches are different everything's different and even if
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women get destroyed by the men's teams does that make them less of people that's not the argument
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so what's the argument the argument is about you're you're you're saying okay i'm saying men men are
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stronger than women and you're saying well hold on women didn't have the opportunity or there was like
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social stigma or they didn't have the opportunity but and i'm saying you look at elite at elite athletes who did
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have the opportunity uh and you compare elite male athletes to elite female athletes both had
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opportunity the women are not capable of competing with the men i'm not trying to say that it's not a
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biological fact that men can get stronger than women i'm trying to say that the fact that that is a re
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like the reason that men are more like put on higher standards and have more rights than women because
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of strength is not that's not the argument but that's not the argument but that's my argument
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is that it shouldn't be that way you're saying yes biologically men are stronger than women i'm saying
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even if that's the case it should not be a player in why women have less rights than men does that make
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sense okay so but descriptively though i mean i'll it's kind of yes men are stronger than women yeah but it's your
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point is a bit off topic but i'll actually bite with you um so you would agree that uh you'd agree
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that right do you believe in rights yes okay what is a right what do you mean what what you said you
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were talking about rights what are rights just the like we have a set of rights but our rights human
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rights but our rights an invention of the mind are they an invention of society or are there like
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inherent rights invention of society okay so you agree that they're inventions of society yeah okay
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so how do you enforce your rights what do you mean how do how do uh nations enforce their rights or
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people in creating laws okay and who enforces those laws men okay and then you might even say like
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soldiers for example let's say you're a country and another country invades you and then they're going
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to then impose their worldview and their government uh you know whatever their laws on you but maybe
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you disagree with their laws right but you would argue and i'm speaking descriptively here i'm not
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saying what should be i'm saying what is what you would agree that like a suit a country with a superior
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superior military force could invade another country and impose their laws on that country yes that happens
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all the time happens all the time and they do that through force right so they do that and who has a
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monopoly on force men men okay so when it comes to feminism you're saying like talking about women's
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rights you would agree that women have to appeal to men to uh instill their rights yes oh okay i mean
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then there's no argument then but it shouldn't be that way that's my argument so how should it be
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women should just be respected as human beings but it's not the way it is but that's not but that's not
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descriptively by the way men can have their rights taken away too by other men of course so but it
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ultimately does come down to force so feminists in order for feminism to exist you claim you claim you're
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not a feminist you claim you're misandrist but in order for women to have rights men have to grant
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those rights right now yeah that's the way it works right okay do you not you were talking about
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all right i think you brought it full circle and i at least understand what what the point you're
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trying to understand he's trying to say that men have physical more physical force and that's why
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women have to submit to them or whatever that's not versus power that's not look i'm not making a
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should claim i'm just speaking descriptively what's happening i'm saying i agree that is because
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because men have a monopoly on force that there is going to be a natural tendency to move towards
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a patriarchy but i also believe that it's not just men having more strength it's that men rely on their
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strength more whereas if women were in charge since day one and women controlled everything there'd be way
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less emphasis on force and strength to give rights and give laws it would all be more methodical let
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me ask you a question though if there's a dispute between two nations and they can't figure this out
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through diplomacy what do you think is going to be the end result of this conflict depends on the
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conflict depends on the nation drop some acid have them have them girl um just give these little
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little well let's say let's say let me ask you a question that would be the best way to actually
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have a genuine conversation let me ask you a question let's say that there was a matriarchy
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and this matriarchy was the most peaceful matriarchy that ever existed however they were there was
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another tribe and this tribe was a patriarchy and uh this tribe was belligerent and uh they were
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interested in your territory they wanted to conquer your territory uh wouldn't you have to have some
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sort of defensive force even if you were not like interested in going to war you would have to maintain
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a military my question is who's leading the person who's invading is it a man yeah sure i'll
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say it's a man so if it was a woman i don't think they'd invade you don't think they would
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no i don't that's interesting uh so you think you just think women are less violent or yes can
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ask you a question uh related to this bringing it back to uh dating and relationships i guess uh
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how could this actually be the case if for example if we look at uh homosexual relationships so
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if you look at lesbian relationships the incidence of violence in lesbian relationships is highest
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so it goes like this lesbian relationships highest levels of domestic violence you look at heterosexual
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relationships the they're in the middle and then you look at gay homosexual two men uh gay homosexual
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relationships the instance incidence of domestic violence is the lowest when you have two men it's
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medium well in this scale it's medium when there's a man and a woman and the incidence of domestic
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violence is the highest when you have two women how could it possibly be the case then when you have
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two women who are conceivably more peaceable than men are how could it then be the case that the
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incidence of violence is higher in lesbian relationships well first of all i'd love to see
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that article second of all you can it's second of all i think women would be more likely to report it
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if it's a with a woman rather than a man they're scared of actual death when they're being abused by a
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man and they're less likely to report it and i think gay men it i mean i don't i've never seen this
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article but they're still men right they're still men and your position is that men are more violent
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than women well gay men aren't in positions of also what do you think about the statistics what
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what do you think about the fact that women are more likely to commit infanticide
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so infantic infantic they're more likely to kill their children
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well men do that too i agree yes men do that too but women are more likely to kill their children
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you mean abortion or post-birth i'm not wait i'm not even talking about abortion i'm talking about a
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birth post-birth yes killing their child correct women are more likely to kill their children
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well men are more likely to leave i don't know what your point is
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his point is that we all have issues his point is that men is he's trying to say that
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that women can be very violent as well as i gotta let some chats come through we got clane here
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sorry for the delay clane clane donated two hundred dollars chair one is that low-cut top design to
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fight the patriarchy nothing like a bunch of three hundred and fours wearing revealing clothes and
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arguing against men let's see you don't sell yourself for a day on the yacht first of all you
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spelt yacht wrong second of all i'm wearing a tank top under my shirt to hide my boobs i'm sorry i have
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big ones sorry you're looking um and third of all no i'm not trying to fight i'm patriarchy with
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this shirt i just own it two hundred dollars bricks and play her the video of men doing dangerous jobs
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i know men do dangerous jobs so do women so what's your point uh here pull it up pull the discord up
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really quick i'll just we'll rapid fire through it thank you chef dill pickles appreciate it um
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while you're getting that pulled up here uh i'm gonna read this super quick uh let me know when you
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have the discord pulled up do you have the discord pulled up uh chair for reverse rachel
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dolezal is arguing men and women's relative strength versus absolute strength men's absolute
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strength almost always outdoes that of a woman's which is general generally what matters most what
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matters most in what context though all contexts any context conversational context where there's no
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strength used if men want to put every single woman in a cage do you think they could i don't know
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why would they want to do that that's disgusting do you want to respond he called you rachel dolezal
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on the doppelganger i don't know who rachel so-and-so is but um yeah she's she was a white woman who
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said she was black i mean people have asked me my whole life are you sure your dad's not black so
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i don't know okay that's cool i mean i straighten my hair you have it up really quick person all right
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we'll show it we'll show really quick okay so uh go to the or yeah pull it up and i'll tell you where to
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go it can be on behind the scenes but pull it up scroll down on the left hand side nope on the left
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go down to uh men at work there it is uh scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up uh
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all the way up to the very top uh yeah up to the top all right you got um here play the iron workers one
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uh mute the audio mute the audio please beautiful so look the reality is when it comes to some of
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these physically laborious jobs um i'm waiting i think we're just seeing the this thing like there's
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going to be the man is going to grab that steel beam okay and there is a component of strength with
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like we're waiting for it like you need to be able to be like have strength to hold that thing okay
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you don't think any woman could do that well also for him to get up to the position that he's
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currently in he needs to be able to they literally climb up steel beams and the reality is like it's
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not clear to me if women want to do this sort of work like i don't think women want to scale
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skyscrapers i don't think these men dream of scaling skyscrapers it's just that job position
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wait look right here so he's grabbing it he's grabbing it okay and he's redirecting it he's
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moving it he has to literally like it's literally attached to wires and yeah i know it's being lifted
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by machinery but he is going to redirect it and there is going to be a strength component here but
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the the main thing is he's also has to climb they literally have to climb up those things and you'll
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exile that i'll show you a different one like no offense to these men hell no i wouldn't do that
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most men here mad respect to these men no offense i think i could climb that yeah go for uh is there
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where to make it bigger wait hold on no no here x out of that x out just you know i'm not gonna lie
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here click even though it's so nice and impressive that he's doing it i do personally believe that if
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you put me in that beam right now i could climb the whole thing just on the video that you just had
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click it no no the other hold on the other one that's i don't know why i won't uh hit those three
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dots in the corner there oh yeah full screen full screen full screen all right play it
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he's he's doing like a majority of women don't have the physical strength to do that
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but so the have you ever been in a skyscraper yeah yeah you can thank men for that
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like all the thank us for all the things like we could always tally it like this
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no but the reason you can thank men for that is because the men were hired for that if a woman
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women don't want to do this kind of work why men don't want to do that kind of work that is blue
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color work i agree with you but there are some fucking these iron workers uh they're they're
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amazing amazingly brave men incredible they're also a little crazy i would not want to do this
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if you offered me good money i would not be opposed you know give me your number and i think i could
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climb that beam and wait pull it back up pull it back i don't think you'd be able to do it as
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efficiently whatever we should we should because you're weaker hold on we have techno trooper hold
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on hold on because you're a woman but have you measured that me versus that guy on the beam
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i mean we can clearly see that he's way bigger than you you haven't seen me climb that big idiot
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and did you know that shorter men are actually a little bit stronger okay and taller men okay
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all i said is i think i could also do that and you said i couldn't for no reason other than that i'm
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a woman because i never said that you could i literally i said if you were listening i said if you
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were listening to me i said that you couldn't do it as efficiently as quick as as literally why
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not my bad because because i'm a woman yes because you're weaker but you don't know that you're less
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you're not as strong as a man you're not as strong as men get it through your head that get it through
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your head but you literally don't know that you really tried explaining that to you and it wasn't
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going through your head no that you really agree you don't know that man and you don't know me you
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met me today you go to the gym every day and lift a thousand pounds and he could go to the gym every
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day yeah you go what do you do i run can you lift weight 95 pounds who gives any you don't know who i
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am i could do that you could and you don't know who i am if you and i went to the gym after this you
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could bench 95 pounds incline bench because that's what i can do for reps by the way but you
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literally don't know me so yeah i could do that you don't know okay you don't know yeah i want to
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see the proof though i want to see the proof of you being a good person i don't see it
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what's the argument there that you are being disrespectful to me for no reason
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and you're i said i said i said that you weren't as strong as a man and you say that that's
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disrespectful as that man climbing the beam you have no clue who that man is you have no clue who
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i am you're making an assumption based on gender for no reason i mean and that's why i'm being
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annoyed at you right he clear i'm sorry you're annoyed at me he clearly got hired for the job
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which means that he's strong enough i didn't apply for that job go ahead do it let's see if you get
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hired oh i seriously doubt you i will bet all the money i have which isn't much but i will bet all the
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money i have that you would not get hired why because i'm a woman yes because you're not strong
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enough to do that but you don't you don't know that either he's by your team he's silent
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you know what to be fair i'm gonna i'm gonna come construction companies i'm gonna come to the
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defense of marin here uh the behind i saw the burning man oh my god what is this non-sequitur
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shit um i saw behind the scenes i saw behind the scenes marin actually bench pressed charlie kirk
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believe it or not when she was on the set of jubilee she benched him like for for reps i don't think
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he'd let me touch him for a million dollars she was bench pressing charlie kirk so you heard it here
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first but you know even if i couldn't even if i couldn't climb that skyscraper you don't know that
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because you don't know who i am i never said but you did say that i never said that you couldn't i
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said you did i said you couldn't do it as efficiently as a man as biologically you are not
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as strong as a man as the man that we saw in that video then we don't know that he's older than me
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he's done it for longer than me give me time perfect perfect you just you just literally answered
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you literally just won this argument for me you just said that he's done it for longer
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yeah and that he's older which means that he has more experience so let's say i'm his age and i did
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it for the same time as him you don't know if i could do it quicker than him you're making an
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assumption but that's a sexist assumption scientifically and i'm happy that you think
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that's an okay assumption i'm happy for your boyfriend who probably enjoys that he does he does
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oh biologically scientifically he can do it better than any woman but you don't know that yes i do
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it's biology it's not me it's not that it's not that i know it it's biology that men are way stronger
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so he can do it better than you and you know i'm happy that neither of you are gonna ever gonna have
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to do those things it doesn't make him better than us well he makes him a man and that and what makes
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it makes us a woman is that we do things that we do much better than men do and that's the way we
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are created women do certain things that are much better than men and vice versa i can think of so
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many things i don't know at this moment nothing comes to my mind but there's so many things that
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invented the internet that that and i so and then that makes me proud and the man took the credit and
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well i didn't even fake news fake news fake news yeah good talk all right let me move this on here
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guys so we have a couple chats coming through guys if you want pull it up uh get get a message
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rita's 100 tts is 200 streamlabs.com if you want to get it in uh lucas says holy shit am i in the
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twilight zone chair one you are the poster child of retardation women can get as strong as men do you
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realize that the average testosterone level in prime age women is 10 ng a lot of men are taking i'm
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continued i'm i'm also r slurred because i don't know what that means um uh or what it stands for
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i know i know you know do you want me to answer that uh well he has a part two to it so hold on
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felicity my fiancee wants to know what plastic surgery you've had chair one who's the most
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influential woman of history your quick answer and then none no plastic surgery felicity nope okay uh
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most influential influential woman in of history it might be malala who fought for women's education
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but i don't know there's been a lot of influential feminists however a lot of them have been silenced
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so i don't know they've all been silenced evil patriarchy evil patriarchy so you're putting words
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in my mouth thank you you're welcome um whereas the average testosterone level in prime age men
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is 950 uh even today chair one you say you have a boyfriend if so is there a strategically situated
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worn out chair in the corner of your bedroom i don't know what that means i think he's referencing
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the cuck chair is there what does that mean the cuck chair like someone watches no he's saying that
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your boyfriend watches he's saying your boyfriend he's saying don't shoot the messenger go for it
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that there's a cuck chair i don't know what that means so it's like okay if if you're a cuck you're
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a dude who's a cuck you watch you watch your girlfriend get effed by other dudes so and he
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sits in the corner there is no chair of that sort i'm only with one man so he stands no he stands
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in the normally thank you oh no no i that okay whatever hey don't shoot the messenger it was him
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it was he stands what do you mean by that instead of sitting in the cuck chair he just stands in the
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corner and cries no such an instigator i said i only have why am i i'm not the instigator she's
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the instigator felicity over here she stands speaking she she speaks a lot trust me with my eyes
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subconscious anyways yeah all right we have this uh oh shop.whatever.com j misnomer uh yo thank you
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for the uh merch purchase guys shop.whatever.com if you want to get a t-shirt or a hoodie or something
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we'll uh shout you guys out thank you for that uh and then we have we have some super chats we're
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gonna finally get to uh there's quite a three quite a few all right so we have chef dylan fun fact the
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national intelligence law of 2017 of the chinese communist party requires chinese citizens to
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cooperate with state intelligence efforts i don't know that how is it even relevant to the show i
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they they really i don't know do you want to respond to that or no i mean i need to see the
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exact citation um definitely need to fact check even further but i just don't think this is even
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relevant right and we already talked on tangents for like hours we talked a lot of a lot of tangents
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here i thought i'm on a dating show yeah we'll get there all right lucas chair three omg my tongue
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in cheek attempt at levity fell flat this is the guy who sent in the oh the chat earlier about the not
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the most recent one but about like the tax stuff uh i'm a he says he's a partner at an am law 100 new
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york new york city firm over 1 000 attorneys he's i have tax counsel in-house and yes my tax partner
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does separately review the allocations section in my draft jv agreements do you want to respond to our
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good friend lucas that's great we can connect off the show i'd like to be mentored more all right lucas
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she's kind of based she's kind of a legend lucas so if you want to hire her at your super fancy
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snazzy new york law firm are you looking for not right now all right sorry lucas sorry i just want
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to remain loyal to my current company for uh for some time because i just got a new job i just started my
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new job two weeks ago two weeks ago i may remain responsible for my company uh james craig men work
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harder than women thoughts based on what are you even talking about in general craig james craig you
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might have to send a follow-up there but uh men work harder than women thoughts i think he's saying
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in general do you think men work harder than women no no definitely not not at all do do they work more
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hours than women depends where you're looking and you're looking at in general i don't know i agree that
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some women work more hours than some men exactly but there are more men that work more hours than
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women but do we are we going to look at why or are we just going to look at the basic facts and not
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even talk about why well we should also do that with with the wage gap which would discredit the wage
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gap if we look at why because the wage gap is simply an assertion that's it it's just consider
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raising children work or taking care of the household work or are we only talking about work that we get
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paid for true like a clock that we that's a good point because that's there are women that work
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jobs and take care of a household and they're working pretty much 24 7. we have lucas chair one
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you truly have a room temperature iq but here's a thought exercise for you go out and walk around
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for a few hours and compile a list of everything you see that was not put there by nature i promise you
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that every damn thing on your list was both invented and built by a man who brought the man on earth
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like come on no but that's not the point that i'm talking about the point is why was everything
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only built by men because only men were given the opportunity no because they're stronger
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you fucking idiot no men also know i'm the fucking idiot here yeah i'm the fucking idiot
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why why is she an idiot though because she's saying oh men are stronger that's why everything was
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invented by a man first of all inventions have nothing to do with physical strength second of all it's
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because of the education opportunities that men were granted for years and years and decades and
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decades that women were never granted i understand that men have more physical strength than women
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biologically that has nothing to do with so many of the things you're trying to talk about he literally
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showed you proof what videos of how you think that was proof that women that was just videos
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of men are you dumb the building we're in right now is literally proof no are you serious the
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building we're this was built by this was built by men this building was probably every single but
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are you saying that it couldn't be built by women because it could be it could easily be built by
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women i suppose it you i suppose it could there you go ten years later but yes logically
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the men logically it could be built by women but like practically no women were are you having
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a child fan am i an andrew tate yeah i want to know i don't really know much about him what about
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i'm a charlie kirk fan oh she's a charlie kirk fan that makes sense it it all makes sense okay hold
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on let me it's all being put together uh lucas chair one chair one continued beyond that even today the
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average iq of a man is 99 and 97 for a woman more importantly however seven out of eight people
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in the top one percent of iq are men sorry love i know it's triggering but every single man in this
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chat would dominate intellectually but do you realize that that's because men are offered greater
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opportunities of education men men do worse men do worse in college they do worse in college
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you're literally saying that men are intellectually more smarter wait maryn uh you're saying can you
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repeat that last thing you just said men are offered greater opportunities for education than women are
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are you sure about that i'm positive so just to be okay so the statistics would seem to disagree with
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you how so well ever since uh it's either 1979 or 1980 there's been more women who go to college than men
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that's two uh four decades excuse me four decades of there being a greater representation of women
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in higher education this number today is something like i think it's 60 40 split but if you look at
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a high number of college graduates facing unemployment so but her claim of people going to college has
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changed in general i don't see how this is a rebuttal to my america has shipped out all blue collar jobs so
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there's a lot less physical labor jobs i'm over here you're way over here maryn your point was that
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there's less opportunity for what women as it relates to higher education women predominate in
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higher education is this due to sexism against men yes or no if you look let's the hold on if you look
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at the decades before like what 2010 and all the way through history all of that time men have been
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offered way you're nodding your head no but when were women allowed to even go to college and not
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like finishing school they've always been allowed to go to university point blank i think there are
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maybe if you came from a wealthy family where they could afford to send you i'm gonna be fair i do
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believe that i and i don't know the specifics there were some universities that did bar women but yes but
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women were able to go to university but back to the point here if you're going way back historically
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you're saying it was only 2010 and after where there was some sort of shift when it came to
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women's access to higher education it was either it was 1979 1980 1979 1980 when there were more
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women that's four decades more women who started going to college than men so what this means is so
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women who went to university in 1979 1980 they're now retiring so you've essentially had an entire workforce
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through the period of that workforce where women started going to university more than men can i
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see that uh yeah we could pull it up i believe uh mary going to the discord i have it in the let me just double
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check here on my phone i know i pretty sure i have it posted did you go to college i dropped out of college
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but so do you think education matters in how you enter the workforce but also i think sometimes it
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can be helpful i guess in a conservative household men are often pushed towards college more than women
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men are this isn't true but okay and how do you know that how do you know that your claim is true
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because there's data about it you can look it up conservative if this is actually the case how could it
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possibly repeat your claim really quick what claim you your claim that i think you said and correct
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me if i'm wrong a lot that there's a greater push are more pushed towards furthering a greater education
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and becoming wealthy than women how could that possibly be true if there are more women who go
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to university than men so how could that be true because women are slowly starting to try and do not
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just slowly since he's saying that the statistics are saying men are going into blue-collar trade which is
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not university and that women are going into higher education which means the women can become the
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architects and the designers and the men can still i do have it mary pull up the infographics tab in the
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discord keeps happening i hope that grows to be complete if you were oppressed for so many years you're
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finally gonna have the opportunity to do it so men are failing because it's on their own demerit they're
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playing video games they're wasting their own lives they're not they're not trying to have goals like we do
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wait so just to be clear so if there's when men have some sort of negative life outcome it's due to
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men's choices but when women have negative life outcomes it's due to other men and sexism so men
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have agency women don't i actually think i have the greater feminist position men have agency women have
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agency if there's a negative life outcome it's not because of some evil boogeyman patriarchy it's because
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of women's choices when men have negative life outcomes it's often due to their own choices too
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to be fair there are sometimes uh external circumstances that can push you towards negative
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life outcomes but i think a lot of negative life outcomes come down to individual choice can you
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pull it up please no it's all the way to the top just go to the infographics tab scroll just pull it up
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and pull uh all the way to the top please all the way to the top okay so no uh scroll down it's one
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down college okay click on the first one and we're going to tab through these so percentage of u.s
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population who have completed four years of college or more from 1940 to 2021 by gender so it starts in 1940
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uh completed okay so this is completed so this would factor in going even further back
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go to the next one for me u.s college degrees by gender 2017 uh so this is in 2017 there's 100 males
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for every 141 females male 41 females 58 that's from the u.s department of education and it includes
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associates bachelors masters and doctors degrees next uh so this is the year this is the male enrollment
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female enrollment and the number of more females so in 1980 there were uh half a million essentially
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half a million more females going to university than males uh if we go to i can't see it because
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we're blocked but like 2010 uh there were 7.8 million men enrolled in university and 10.2 million
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women enrolled in university 2.4 million more women than men enrolled that's in 2010 but it goes all the
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way back to 1980 next u.s college enrollment by gender 1947 to 2019 okay this was the one i was looking
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for u.s college enrollment by gender so if you look there uh the bluish one it's a little hard to tell
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in month bluish one is men the green one is women in 1980 that's when the overlap changes
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so and even if you look historically the gap between in 1950 the gap between men and women in 1950s so there
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were more men in 1950 if you look at the gap in 20 from the 2000s on or even 1990 on that discrepancy
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is greater in favor of women so there's more women going to enrolling in university next
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oh no i was about to say can i can i say something just one let's get through these also this is uh men
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and women study different things this is sort of related to the weight uh the wage gap here uh but let's
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just go next uh this is for where is this total number of students undergraduate this is for one
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of the i think this is for ucsb uh 61 percent women 39 percent uh men next percentage of all college degrees
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female versus male that's another one next total fall enrollment same i think next okay this is the
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university of california system uh the gender ratios blue male red female so you see there's an
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over-representation of women in the gender ratios for every single uh university of california system
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with the exception of uh uc san diego there's a little bit more men and then ucsc looks that looks
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about equal um next and then uh men or boys are less likely to earn a high school diploma oh this
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is about high school okay less likely to earn a high school diploma less likely to meet uc california and
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california state university requirements less likely to earn a bi-literacy seal less likely to earn a
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golden i don't know what that is but okay uh so i don't know this idea that men are over-represented in
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universities has not been the case for four decades well i didn't say over-represented i said push
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towards it more and like and wait and really quickly let me say yeah go ahead do you think any
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of this has to do with the fact that men know that they're more likely to get jobs even without a
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college degree and women have to work more harder like harder to get a job and they have to have
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more college education than a man does in order to even get there i wouldn't say that that's the reason
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okay well it could be one maybe i mean i don't see a difference i don't think there actually is
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much of a difference in terms of wages between like an uh let's say both of them have a high school
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diploma between a man and a woman and i think there's actually certain positions where a woman is
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probably better suited to get i think a higher paying job right out of high school than a man
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and i'm not even going to factor in sex work to my argument because i just think that's
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that's that wouldn't really even suit myself but work on youtube and like youtubers those people
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don't go to college and they make a lot of money women are also i'm just saying in general like a
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lot of social media people too i would also love to see the confirmation bias on these articles you
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know what i'm talking about the ones i just pulled up yeah confirmation bias when you look for certain
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things you'll find certain things was all this about california or was it about the entire world
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it's well some of the no well some of those were for california the others were for the entirety
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of the united states oh about the world just just the us yeah where i'm talking about yeah the us
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okay but i i would suspect this pattern is the same in other western countries now if you wanted
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to make arguments about eastern countries that's not really that's not my area of expertise but i
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would actually be probably willing you know what i'm not sure actually we don't have to talk
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about because i don't know well it could i could talk about religion there could be a case that
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there's more men going to university in some of these eastern countries but could if i if i was
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looking at like certain asian countries i'm or like india for example i'm not actually sure
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if it's the case i don't but i don't know so i don't want to make a a claim that's just i don't
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know well if we're not talking about feminism in the entire world and just the us the us is way more
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progressive than the entire rest than most of the rest of the world we got a chat coming through
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here and then we'll get the rest of the chats pasty george donated 200 and chair one proves why
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we have a child birth rate crisis by reciting her feministic bullshit good job well first of all you
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have no clue how many children i want to have in the future how many do you want i don't know probably
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more than two two maybe more i don't want them to be lonely i'm an only child second of all um if i
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don't want to give birth then i'm not going to give birth and that's none of your fucking issue
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so who cares if there's a child rape crisis honestly the world would be better off without
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humans anyway yeah wait hold on let's just let's just do
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wait so the world would be better off without humans anyway are you so are you an anti-natalist
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what do you mean like you're not you don't like children or you're against absolutely not but you
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said the world would be better off without in a perfect world there would be no humans i think
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yeah well i mean it begs the question then what's stopping you from just unaliving myself yeah the fact
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that there's an entire world of people around me so it wouldn't really do much if i just killed
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myself well okay sorry i'm alive yeah it's fine um but you said that the world would be better off
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that sounds like an ought claim like global warming and like all the issues we have because we live on
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an overpopulated planet wouldn't exist war wouldn't be happening nukes wouldn't be happening
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but then we wouldn't be alive well and correct wouldn't be alive and correct and i'm saying we're
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already here so hold on wait hold on wait dinosaurs are gonna come back hold on how the
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fuck is that i didn't say that i i'm just saying if evolution skipped human beings and it was just
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monkeys and the rest of the world damn that's a hot take there that's a hot take um but i i it
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does beg the question if like humans are the most mass destruction of the planet
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without humans i think yeah but okay a lot more peaceful let's we're already here i'm not saying we
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should kill all humans i'm just saying we're are like we're already here so it's already happened
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however technically the world would be better off without so if i were to i mean i guess i could go
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ahead and grant that humans are destructive towards the planet although like yeah what precisely does
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that mean i'm sure you enjoy like living in an air-conditioned house and having heating and running
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water of course so however if i was born and raised with none of that i would survive i think we
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sometimes take for granted the comforts of modernity oh i love the comforts we have however
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the comforts come with a cost yes the comforts exist and i'm only here for a short amount of time and so
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is everyone else wait you know hold on i understand that those comforts are a big thing i think global
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warming uh some people even dispute if this is the the severity of it and all sorts of things i think
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this is assuming it is the case is a necessary evil like if you look at electricity uh the the i guess
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the usage of fossil fuels have brought more people out of poverty than sort of like anything else it
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well maybe not uh energy is what has brought more people out of uh poverty and starvation if you
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look at the global uh what's the exact term like the global poverty rate has greatly been diminished
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through human ingenuity and so if you look at the like these sort of civilizations or populations where
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there was mass amounts of like hunger and poverty we've been able through uh energy usage and you know
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introducing industrialization to them we've been able to bring them slowly out of poverty out of
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hunger out of starvation so i think are there negative consequences of industrialization and this
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sort of thing and energy usage sure but i think the benefits outweigh the uh the costs but poverty is a
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construct created by humans monkeys don't look at other monkeys and say they're poor we're gonna not
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give them food like in most animals it's they just have a way of living and it just continues on and
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on and it's just the way it is we've created a whole system that's much more complicated which
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again i'm not saying i'm not saying all humans deserve to be abolished i'm not saying we shouldn't
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isn't that what you were saying no i'm saying that if the world was going to be perfect maybe we
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wouldn't have evolved to this point to a point where we're so um intellectual that we can create
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such giant systems that harm the rest of the planet that's all i'm saying we're already here so might as
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well enjoy it and do what we can to try and save the planet but if if we had all stayed primates and
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none of this complex stuff would happen okay we wouldn't be complaining that we didn't have ac and
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that we weren't rich we would just be living life as simple creatures yes yeah sure i suppose it's the
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case that uh if we didn't evolve then we wouldn't like it's sort of ignorance is bliss yeah which is
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how the other animals live right but most of these animals aren't self-aware but that's what i'm saying
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okay do you have natural our self-awareness and our intellectual abilities has hurt the planet
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do you agree do you do you think the things we've created have hurt this planet whether we want to
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admit it or not so you think we should go back to no we're already here we can't go back here we have
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a chat coming through here thank you pasty george pasty george donated two hundred dollars and once again
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chair one's response proves me s tar veela and rachel wilson correct we are so cooked and near
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collapse because of feminism good job thank you who are either of those women well he just donated
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two hundred dollars just to type that so oh he did you can have that he did just do that i'm proud of
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you did just do that i'm proud of you for spending two hundred dollars to give me that opinion
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do you want to say something nice about pasty george you want to give i just said i'm proud
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of him oh you're proud of him okay love it love it pelagic six thank you for the hundred dollar soup
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chat good to see you in the chat man your uh chair one argues using logical fallacy only she's a total
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clown do you want to respond to that also if you want to wear this hat i do you have to spin done spin
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the helicopter you know i knew two boys in middle school who wore these every day wait how do i you
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you guys spin it slap it there you go love it it's good it's a total clown thank you i'll take i'll
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take it back though you can give it he doesn't want me wearing it too long doesn't want lice
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you've got lice with them here disinfect that felicity all right um let's see here we have lizzie
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plowing a field hooking up ropes to a dragon attached to an ox they cannot do this maybe you can't my
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grandma did that you know what i also um maryn has a finsta and she do not she you post she she
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wrangles cattle i do and she also i've seen her do amazing feats of strength so we do have an outlier
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here at the table maryn um she she has done various she grew up on a farm and she actually
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wrestle my grandparents were farmers and my grandma would help wow all that stuff thank you for
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sharing i appreciate that okay uh and we had cows we i would rangle the cows too i love that um pelagic
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her gaslighting is moronic and insufferable do you want to respond to pelagic there
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is he talking about me i think it's talking about you yeah um okay explain gaslighting i mean
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doesn't know what that means we we just got to give animals time to catch
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i don't know about all that we are all animals what about dolphins
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bro spend a hundred dollars just to tell me that can any of the women at this table name a single
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career that would be more important than staying home at raising homeschooling their own children
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i'll open up to the whole panel here well my question for you is is it sexist to say that
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men can't stay at home and raise the children men are just as capable of raising children as women
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women have to breastfeed for a certain amount of time but after that why can't men teach and
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homeschool their children are you saying that men aren't capable of teaching their children
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i mean my response to this would actually go back to women's own
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sexist traditional gender role expectations of men so even if men wanted to do that i would
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say the vast majority of women are not going to be okay dating a guy who's like i don't want to
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work you be the breadwinner i'm gonna stay home and take care of the kids most women i think even
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feminist liberal women don't want that kind of relationship dynamic whereas i think there's far
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more men who would be assuming they make the earn the the level of income to be able to support
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it and there are more men who would be okay with the reverse so of course however i believe that
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only that only reason for that happening is because of the societal standards that have been placed for
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years and years and decades and decades by men how would it but no it's enforced by women
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how easy but when i'm a woman i don't want to be in a relationship or have children with a man who's not
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willing to be a provider what would that have to do with men that would be strictly women having a
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standard and men being like well if i can't get a wife and i can't have children if i'm not a provider
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as i've said before which you seem to not believe it's because women were not allowed to have as high
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paying of jobs maybe it was because of physical strength but regardless they were not given
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opportunities to have as high paying jobs as men were so men were expected to make the money because
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they were allowed to have higher paying jobs and before there were things as nannies and whatever
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like rich women did have nannies and whatever but like before that was a thing it was the woman's job
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to take care of the children in the home because that was all they were allowed to do the thing is
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though is that if we're talking about modernity and we're talking about current gender roles my position
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would still be even though women have more equality than they've ever had they've had more freedom
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than they've ever had they're making more money than they've ever had in all of human history so
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combine all these things more freedom more rights more opportunity more uh more success than at any point
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in human history and women in the u.s enjoy this especially it's interesting women still don't want to date
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men that's that say or want to be stay-at-home fathers and i believe i mean and it's men's fault
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yeah no no maybe i'm wrong but i believe it's because of the societal pressures that have been
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handed down for centuries to who to men or to women to women their program what which societal pressure
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that we are supposed to stay home and take care of the child and take care of the home and women are
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supposed to cook and women are supposed to clean and you can't cook and clean and take care of the
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the children if you have a job so it's just more like normalized for women to stay home but i but
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like my dad stayed home with me for years while my mom worked your mom was the breadwinner yeah
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she still is are your parents still together yep okay i'm not saying my mom still is the breadwinner
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okay she has the higher paying job and my dad technically has no job right now he stays at home he
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cleans and he cooks and it's and my whole family is totally fine sure and i'm not disputing that that
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happens i'm not saying it's an impossibility i'm just saying that generally speaking even when women
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make a ton of money they still are probably not going to be okay dating a guy who wants to be the
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stay-at-home dad but you say probably like you've spoken to every woman in the u.s you can't just say
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probably you say maybe if this is the appeal you're making i would just reverse the appeal to
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you have you spoken to every single woman in the u.s no that's why i'm not saying every single man in
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the u.s that's why i'm not saying definitely or probably i'm saying they have the ability to and
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if societal standards have you as what they were then maybe not probably let me maybe it would be
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different can i ask you a question have you seen the sky from every single geographical location
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in the world no but you would be confident to say the following for example you might say probably
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the sky is blue everywhere in the world sure okay but probably not at every time so we don't
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what do you mean the sky could be gray at a different place because it's cloud if okay here i'll add a
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qualifier if it's daytime and if there's no clouds and the sun's showing is this exact location i wouldn't
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say probably in any geographic location where those are the the explicit uh circumstances i would
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never say probably about that for one half the world it's nighttime the other half of the world
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it's no but i said it clouds rain i said if there's no clouds if there's no clouds in my exact location i
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still wouldn't use the word probably wait so just to be clear if it was daytime and there were no clouds
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clear skies and i'm in alay california you would say under what circumstance would the sky not be
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blue um in the other side of the world where it's nighttime but no you were saying in your location
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yeah i would never say a probably about the entire world i added okay i added the qualifier whichever
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geographic location it is in that specific location it is daytime and there are no clouds okay you would say
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that it's a blue sky where i was yeah not just where you were but somewhere else like for example
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i make that assumption would you agree that anywhere in california right now it's nighttime
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yeah everywhere currently in california like the sun is not visible
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i don't know i don't know where the sun i don't know what time the sun sets in the northern regions of
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california or whatever but yeah i'd say it's okay probably nighttime in california right now
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all right there you have it that's way different than the question what you said probably you said
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probably all women in the u.s would feel i didn't say i said yeah probably most women would not be okay
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with that sort of am i wrong you say probably you don't know that well that's why i'm saying probably i
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suppose maybe probably probably it's the case okay probably just insinuates that you're probably
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correct when you just may be correct okay well do you think i'm wrong i don't know i haven't asked
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every woman in the entire you don't need to ask every woman you can just use your intuition or just
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like i think so i think if you asked a handful of women if they would be fine doing that if the
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husband said i'm gonna take full responsibility of the kids and the cooking and the cleaning if
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you work a job i'm not sure i feel a lot of women would be okay with that i'd like to ask uh probably
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the highest earning woman here at the table um you're a corporate attorney tax attorney uh do you
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mind saying i don't know if you're okay with it how much do you make per year um you make six figures
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i make um yeah six figure but not a small six figure what can you say what it is uh over 200
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okay would you be willing to date a guy who is a barista and maybe this guy is great but he wants
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to stay home and take care of the kids and stop working once you guys have children to be very
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honest um i think i would prefer a guy who's also financially stable um i mean i don't mind sharing the
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child caring responsibility but i would rather him not be a stay-at-home dad but of course it would also
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depend on the man um because i have seen women who have to support um their husbands or partners
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going through like college getting their uh advanced degrees um so i would say it's really case by case
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thank you okay and really quick just to for the soup chat here if any uh just any of the other women
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here can any uh women name a single career that would be more important than staying home at uh
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raising your own children i don't think uneducated people should homeschool their kids so i answer
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the actual question please if you can but the question is confusing because do you mean like
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there's zero for men or women there's zero occupation that's more important than raising a child because
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you can make the same argument for like no man's job is more important than helping raise their child
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however we need different occupations to survive in the world the way that we've built it
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anybody want to respond to it besides her i mean i just want to chime in i think it also depends on how
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you define important i mean of course it's always nice to have someone like taking care of the child
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at home but also you need a steady source of income to to feed the children to feed the family who's
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going to put the food on the table otherwise we have claim here with a message
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claim donated two hundred dollars thank you man appreciate it animals kill the weak of their
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society humans have evolved to keep even the mentally weak alive see chair one also see chair
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one chest for why guessing boyfriend is deaf and if not poor sum of a bitch
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you spelt poor wrong but other than that um you gotta spell check these guys my boyfriend loves me
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very much so he's not deaf or blind or anything thank you for assuming um and
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scoot into the table a bit um and i don't really know what else to say to that we have another
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super chat here thank you pasty george donated two hundred dollars thank you thank you as long as my
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super chats and tts's contribute to informing good men about the bullshit of feminism to chair one and
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two in turn what duties and responsibilities do women have towards men you spell bullshit wrong
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but the duties and responsibilities that women have towards men um none and men don't have duties or
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responsibilities towards women either so i don't know what you want me to say towards that what about
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you um i'm on the same page as you i want to say something about that sure quick if you can yes
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quickly in a relationship i think that it's based on love society might not support that today women
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are today we're we're asking would you marry a man that makes less money than you and what about
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would you marry a man that treats you well would you marry a man that you love would you marry a man that
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loves you when there's love and i can say it because i did love and my late husband loved me it was
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real love and i was i am a piano teacher i was teaching in my house and i it was a pleasure to
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cook for him it wasn't being a servant it's the fruit the product of loving each other he's going to go
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out he's going to work and he's going to bring me what i need not because he's my servant and i love him
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so much that knowing that he's doing what he's doing i'm gonna iron his his clothes and we all when we
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go out on the date he looks awesome because i love him and i'm going to cook for him so everything
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it's a consequence of love and if we go back back in time what's the origin of love
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god is love god is love god is love no god created god invented god is love and if we focus on
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love and i'm talking about religion i'm not a religious person i hate religion but god a
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relationship with a superior intelligence okay when there's real love when we follow love well
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god god communicates with us through the bible through the bible and when the bible talks about
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family and and there's us things that has to do with history when things that i don't agree with
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the bible okay i'm talking about love i'm talking about family god founded family that was the first
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society that was founded on love on god and if we follow the same way as we follow a car manual we put gas
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in a car we don't put we don't put uh uh gather aid okay same thing for a family if we do this if we
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follow this and what does the bible say so we have to go back to who founded the family who founded and what
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is it founded on and what are the rules and we really go back in in time it really says that the
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men is the protector that the woman and everything is a product of love that's that's pretty much what
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i wanted to say it's not being a servant what are women getting protected from who are who are women
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getting protected from well i can tell you in my case for example my my husband protected me about
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everything about being uh somebody talking back to me protected about uh being making sure that the house
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is closed at night protecting it sometimes when i was sick and i was sick for a long time he was the
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one working hard when i got on myself on my feet i was working helping him so what was i getting
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protected everything he was watching out for me a product of love and love can do everything
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love is not selfish god protects god i mean it's very clear what it is love is a way to manipulate
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people oh yes love oh yeah love is not a factor a lot of people get married because of contracts
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that's no love that's no love that but that's the society we live in exactly but that's not real love
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i'll agree with you love is totally the reason and even though i do not believe in god and i don't support
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organized religion that much i love that people use god as a way to appreciate love just like you said i
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love cooking for my boyfriend i'll make him a sandwich i'll make him a meal i love waiting on
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him hand and foot it brings me joy however he does not expect that which is such a blessing because
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he'll ask me like please let me do it i'll be like no i want to do it i want to make you food i want to
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clean up after you like i enjoy doing that however if he said do it now like make me this food that's
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wrong that's wrong and so much throughout history that has happened and i'm so grateful that i'm at
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a place and i have a person that allows me to be happy giving for him and waiting on him however there's
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a lot of people in the world and even in the us still that don't feel happy waiting on others and are
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still forced to and i think that's like even though we're so lucky to like get men that we want to
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provide for and they let us provide for them and they provide for us in different ways there's
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still the people who don't get that choice and who are more so expected just to do it even if they
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don't want to even if the man isn't nice to them then leave him i agree i agree however sometimes it's
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sometimes for some people it's difficult to do that and that's my point when it's based on love
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it's different it's different you know and if there's no love if you choose a person for money
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if you choose a person for you know the position in society if you choose it then you're gonna
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you're gonna run some consequences and if you just there's you know there's a previous relationship
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before the marriage being a girlfriend being a fiance being you know how to say engaged totally totally
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and then you get to see there that's what it is for you get to see that he respect me can i do this
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and then you might choose yes or not you know but it's when there's true real love nothing none of
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this happens however when you teach the woman that it is their job and duty to wait on the man
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that's when it's no longer about love it's more like they expect that and they can become mean
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about expecting that nobody ever taught me nothing i did it and that's wonderful for you
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but for some people it is taught well but that's that's what i'm trying to say that if we found the
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family on on a very strong route which is love it's not going to happen so you're the one that
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choosing you have an engagement previous to see how is this relationship and if you choose wrong then
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you're gonna if you choose somebody that that makes you a slave then you're going to be miserable but
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then choose choose somebody that loves it choose somebody that isn't a teacher as a servant and if somebody
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does leave him and if you don't like the the amount of money that you're making go study and do it
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get another job it's everything i think is our own decision you know but if there's men that makes
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you do things absolutely that's wrong shouldn't happen absolutely do you expect your boyfriend to
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protect you no no so if a man uh came up to you and slapped you on the ass you wouldn't expect him to
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punch him in the face no really a little vibrational i mean if he did i'd be like oh that's crazy but
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like i can slap a man in the face by myself but would you think that he's indifferent no you don't think
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he doesn't want to get arrested for assault but he's i mean that would be self-defense yeah he would
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be protecting if a man slaps me in the ass and someone else slaps that man that's not self-defense
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you can come to defense of a third party and you would still fall under self-defense laws okay so like
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well if he did that i'd be grateful i would never expect him to do so right but just a clarification on
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the self-defense laws if you're with your your child and an adult starts attacking your child
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that makes sense you can beat the shit out of the person attacking your child what if all three
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parties are adults yeah you can still do that too so so like if if your self-defense would apply
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you can come to the defense of somebody else so this would apply this can apply in all kinds of
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situations okay but i would say if a man slapped me on the ass with no permission and i turned around
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i would not wait for my boyfriend to hit him i'd hit him myself if i felt like it
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do you expect your boyfriend to follow the sidewalk rule what is that um having you walk on the inside
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instead of uh him him walking on the outside where you could he could get hit by a car yes shivery no i've
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never expected that however if he does do that i think it's cute but i literally could not hear less
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i wait in front of the door for the man to open the door for me i open the door for my boyfriend
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all the time he gets offended and i'm like just let me open the door if you gotta let men be men
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and let them be shivers for us we have to allow them to be gentlemen if he is not dead yeah we have
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to allow them we don't give enough enough time enough space for me i know i just don't expect it
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so like when it happens maybe i'm a little bit excited i'm like oh that was like you when i was
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younger but she asked me do i expect him to follow the sidewalk rule do i expect him to hit a man who
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tries to attack me or whatever no i don't expect it at all and i wouldn't be mad at him
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pop whatever you'd like donated one thousand dollars yeah thank you
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pop whatever you'd like brian champagne or kool-aid for the youngins so i uh no more popsicles
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find a man oh i'm off the market sorry long really
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bro said i'm off why are you saying really to jungle i'm off the market as if you're gonna hunt
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down his username and like ask him out after the show i could get them connected but he's off the
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market he's you know whatever but anyways i thought you were single that doesn't mean i'm on the market
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she's off the market guys sorry all right uh so i texted him he was like kool-aid so we're gonna
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instead of champagne we're gonna do um capri sun who wants a capri sun i'm okay you don't want a
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capri sun capri sun capri sun what flavor it's a it's like juice i know what it is you want a bit
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you'll have it you'll have some i'll take water okay i'll have some sparkling water actually yeah
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do you want capri sun back there yeah uh refusado please all right just get four 1942 actually you
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want one i would like some champagne like an adult do you want i do not want juice i am not okay you
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want capri sun okay sure yes yes do you want capri sun it's juice okay do you want one sure okay do
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five do five all right jungle thank you man appreciate it i gotta let the rest of the
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chats come through can i quickly just ask do the mannequins have names yes what are their names uh
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kiki and ashley is kiki the pink haired one blue hair oh okay kiki and ashley i was offered by a company
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to get my home thank you from one of those girls like oh really quick that reminds me before the
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show before the show started uh you you were showing uh maren a pictures of a guy you dated
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no pictures of herself but there was a guy in one of the pictures right yeah well i seem to recall there
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was a you you were showing her pictures before the show and maren you responded by saying
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oh he's very ugly you deserve better that was probably bad i just i said that she was hotter
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than him per se and she made it clear that they were not together anymore and that he wasn't a great
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person i thought you said he was so i'm being supportive during the time we were dating uh after
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i found out he wasn't a nice guy no wait when you say you were being supportive what do you mean
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if a girlfriend shows you a picture of a guy that did her dirty and says look at this one you're not
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going to be like oh my god he's so hot you're going to be like yeah you don't have to say that
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but was it the case i just said he's hotter but you weren't even dating him right no the guy showed
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her yes i was dating him oh okay and i'll take one and i simply said that she was more attractive than
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he was no you said ew very ugly you deserve better and what about it she let me ask you a question let me
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ask you a question let's say there was a guy let's say there was a guy and this guy he was dating a
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woman and you overheard a conversation between two men and the guy i guess had a falling out with his
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girlfriend right and the male friends were saying to the guy who broke up with his girlfriend or
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whatever yeah bro you deserve better that chick was a fatty dude she was fat and ugly ew bro
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ew she had a nose ring how you would you'd be cool with that yeah really yeah even the
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nose ring friends should yeah you're talking about me i think friends should support friends uh let's do
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if if if me cheers okay capri sun cheers cheers capri sun bruh thank you thank you jungle we got the
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jungle juice here i should pay you for that but let's see i thought you said no brands
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and we get something whatever whatever it's capri sun they get some earned no endorsement anyways
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whatever moving on i gotta move it on uh josh brooks chair one women get paid less in sports because
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people don't buy tickets as much as male sports i know that when was the last time you saw a woman do
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a double under leg slam dunk in the wna um i don't watch the nba or the wnba so i wouldn't know
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i don't think it's fair no i do think it's fair that because more people watch men's sports they
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get paid more because they have a bigger audience and their stadiums are filled more that makes sense
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i never said that didn't make sense so i don't know why that person's saying that i said something
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different because we never even talked about it's possible he he might have assumed just because of
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some of your other positions that you would have argued that the the wages between like nba and
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wnba players should be equalized that makes sense but okay i'm nothing nothing to argue with you there
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men's sports have been along for around for way longer and so they have way bigger of a fan base
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they have more people involved they have bigger sports is a way to control people's minds oh okay
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well what you know about that it's a way to make people not think for themselves and watch watch other
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people play sports it's a way to control people it's all fake it's all owned by disney what you know
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what though i mean at the nfl and all of that it's not it's not a good thing to have in society
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i think it's healthy competition and humans they hurt each other their brains their their brains get
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damaged well they sign themselves up for that now children not sure than when they have well they
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have to she's got a bit of a point she has a bit of a point parents totally make their kids play
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sports sometimes but not at a certain age they can get out of it if they want at the nfl level
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i know a lot of nfl guys anyways have you never mind um yes i've been yes big sass energy chair one
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is proof against all of her own arguments she is both more hostile and dumber dumber dumber than man
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dumber dumber sorry i'm drunk off of the capri sun uh despite her claim of the opposite she is
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everything she hates which is herself do you want to respond to that um i have absolutely no clue what
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that comment was trying to say thank you for spending money oh jungle this guy oh my god
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jungle is on fire jungle really wants to talk jungle's on fire oh my goodness i'll pop the
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champagne bottle give me a uh mary can you grab me uh the champagne is it really champagne or is it
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sparkling wine seek and ye shall find champagne is from france with a hat spin the hat take a
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by and realize that your man awaits you out there go get him cheers brian what are you in defense of my
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eggs i'm really oh chair seven oh it's for you yeah yeah put the hat on my hat spin it wait why is like
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the part spin it that's so stupid and then i think something about take a bow it's california
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champagne so it's not champagne champagne is from a region in france oh thank you for thank you for
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the correction there but champagne is made in a region in france so is tequila like tequila is made
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in a region of mexico it can't be named something else it has that sparkling wine that's not it's
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california it literally says california champagne because champagne is from a city yeah but when
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people it's a you do realize like in france i know a lot about champagne okay that's especially
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one she knows a lot about i just don't understand the empty crystal bottle versus what he's actually
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opening yeah like why can't we have that one the one that's empty where's the one for the thousand
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dollars they donate yeah right we get four dollars champagne yeah they called the crystal oh it's
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ah oh i'm just saying i know a lot of french people my french friends would never say that's
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champagne uh do you guys want refills on your champagne i think you're you yeah sparkling wine
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it's champagne it's champagne okay california pass them for me uh felicity here we got pasty george
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here let me call my french guy pasty george donated two hundred dollars chair one what kind of pathetic
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man do you have he would not punch out a random guy who slapped your unicorn you do realize that a
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man will hit you back right you are coping and capping 100 percent instead to grab one first of all my
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boyfriend when a thousand percent hit someone who tried to touch me but i'm i didn't say that he
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wouldn't i said that i wouldn't expect it with you i know for a fact that my boyfriend would fight back
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for me however like i said i wouldn't expect it i wouldn't be mad at him if he didn't because i'm my
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own person and i can offend um defend myself okay cool uh let's do a cheers cheers to jungle a giga
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chad cheers thank you man you're a fucking legend you're a gentleman he's a great decent man he's a
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pioneer cheers that's true yeah talking polish merci beaucoup jungle thank you thank you what a
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fucking legend what a legend here thank you for that jungle okay more chats
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everything was invented and built by men i would love to see women overthrow men to get the privilege
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to higher education or to work more okay i'd love to see it too we all need it's a symbiotic
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relationship we the yin to our yang we need each other in order to survive and to have a better we
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you guys want to fight each other so bad this is this against this this against this we need each
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other we're the yin to each other's yang without men we won't have kids without it's like who it's like
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good i can't say dick whatever it's like a dick sharing contest like who has the bigger one oh my
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god what does it matter we all are here on the society we're all here to try to be a better
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people he's gonna tell you why i'll tell you why it matters why dick size matters so there are
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narratives there are narratives so first off in order for the propagation of the species you need both men
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and women right of course i agree with you it's impossible without men impossible without women in
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order to propagate the species you need both however however there seems to be narratives and these
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narratives are perpetuated by uh feminists by self-described misandrist like marin here that
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seek to diminish the degree to which the all the modern comforts that we take for granted uh how these are
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all a result of male labor and ingenuity and genius and you're diminishing the contribution of men and
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you basically paint men as this monolithic monster and you you paint men as these terrible people
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throughout all of human history and even today and then women are perpetually oppressed and women are
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perpetually victimized and it's a terrible narrative to spin but really realistically
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when it does come down to survival the material reality of existence and survivability uh greatly greatly
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disproportionately depends on men so men are so so inextricably involved in critical infrastructure
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that if you were to remove these men or if all men were to disappear uh this would be so catastrophic
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in a myriad of ways that i couldn't even fully articulate and the cascading effects of the removal
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of men from critical critical infrastructure these men who are nameless who you don't even know exist
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who keep you safe at night who keep the electricity on who keep the water running who keep the telecommunication
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systems going these things these systems many of you probably don't even have a base level
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understanding of if these men were to disappear there would be catastrophic cascading failures the the
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essentially bringing us back within a period of a month to literally put like pre-civilization
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living standards for women no no no here's the difference here's the difference and you're not
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going to be able to argue to the up to the counter so i agree so if all men disappear it's the end of uh
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it's the end of the species if all women disappear it's the end of the species for both however if we're
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looking at what happens in that scenario where all men disappear all women disappear if all men disappear
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that's going it's going to be very sad obviously nobody wants to lose their wives their sisters uh
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mothers etc etc it's going to be the end of the species that's going to massively suck but if you
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look at in terms of survivability men will be able for the you know the years they have left men will
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be able to maintain the current systems and infrastructure because they need the system
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sure yes i agree thank you for proving my point that enable us to enjoy the comforts of modernity
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if all men disappeared trust me you guys would be living in the stone age however you're assuming that
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if history went differently and women were in charge we'd never get to this point you have no
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i'm not making that claim i'm not making the claim but but so you're because no because men
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were able to create the system and shut women out and they created the system and now they rule the
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system yes if all men disappeared we'd have trouble however if in history things went different and
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people were always considered equal men and women were always considered equal and women had the
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opportunity to make their own system i think we would do just fine and you have no proof here pull
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up discord i don't want to see any videos of men doing work yes you do because you assume that women
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couldn't do that work just because you don't have a video of them pull these videos trust me pull
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the shit up pull the shit up mary pull it up no no don't you can't show that here scroll down
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uh men at work please men at work all right scroll down scroll down there's firefighters
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predominantly men let's do line workers uh scroll down uh full screen that first one please click on
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it full screen it okay this is a dude uh women don't want to do this shit i'm telling you women
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don't want to do this like when look when the electricity goes out and it's below freezing
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it's men who are going to be there at 3 a.m in the below freezing cold temperature when it's
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fucking hailing doing shit like doing gangster shit like this you know what if this was my
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only opportunity of job work i could do it and i would do a great job and you just have no idea
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women don't want to do it is the thing because nothing's stopping women from doing this literally
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nothing but their own choice okay isn't that the argument though for why in america we let illegals
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do our like gardening and stuff because nobody else americans don't want to do that kind of labor
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anymore no that's a good point x out of that let me see what else there's there's one other video i
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wanted she made a good point and you just said what does that have to do with anything and moved
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on to show another video of a man doing something that a woman could easily do full screen that
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shit maren you're gonna be doing this you're doing this shit how much money i'm making bro this guy
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gets paid thirty dollars an hour do you know that for a fact i'm just bro i'm spitballing i don't know
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how much he actually makes he's he's not making 200k here in a small town i had no other choices i had
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no exterminators and plumbers make great money why not let's ask let's ask ocean workers click
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that shit click the you know what click no no bro maren you want to do this shit you want to be out
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on there well i'm a little scared of the ocean oh okay she's scared of the ocean but i know women
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who have done that you want to kick it you want to kick it women could easily you're gonna kick it on
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the fucking oil derrick but the problem is that women could do that but why would just because men
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dominate the fields doesn't mean that women can't do it they can do it it's the fact that they
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don't want to do it wait wait hold on nobody wants to do that wait maren uh here play it we're
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gonna watch this shit just play that shit play that shit so here's the thing right you could take
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like this job right here requires so much uh strength and stamina i'm telling you like you could
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take a guy and put him in this and he'll get there at one point i genuinely think it's the case that
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you put most women in what they're about to do i they just don't have the physical strength to do it
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they don't have the physical strength to do it what is that they're it's it's oil workers
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roughnecks i'm not doing that my god so hold on they do these things are like and their fingers get
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fucking smashed and like like this is really these guys are ideal husband material how i'm not sure
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how that relates at all because you keep showing us blue collar men like these are ideal husbands show
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us the ceos they're harder workers than the soy boys that we see everywhere you're just this is not
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like a pointless comment this conversation hasn't it's like it's idiotic i just i think that's not
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the kind that i'm looking at i just i just don't see a point in showing blue collar men and saying
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women don't do this at all and just showing us videos of men when there are women who work those
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jobs and just because there's more men than women doesn't mean jack shit women could still do it
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just because they don't as much just because men are more likely to do so because men are more
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required to be physically strong because of societal standards does not mean that women could never do
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that job that's all i'm saying i love that i'm not saying that women do that all the time men do
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that more often for sure women could still do it oh my gosh jungle jungle can you send me a message
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on instagram what do you want me to pop champagne what do you want me to do your ex he's probably an
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num num i'm saying get out there and make yourself available for that new man chair one yawn chair
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two blah blah ha ha uh jungle i'm i'm messaging with you on instagram right now let me do you want me
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to do a different pop what do you want i wish i had my glasses what do you want me to pop uh thank
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you jungle appreciate it brother all right here let me read the some of the chats here we have
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techno trooper felicity i want you to i want you to read these go ahead and read it
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bye guys women now earn the majority of masters and doctoral degrees in the u.s continuing the trend
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that has that began in the early 2000s so are you saying hey damn bro am i saying that
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men couldn't get a master's degree i've never said that i'm blind in my left eye brian so are
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you saying men couldn't get a master's degree you do you don't know that nobody ever said that thank
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you i wish it's a different font or color but you were saying you were saying that all these men are
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pushed into the universities and women are just man they're just barred from the universities i never
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said barred okay the essence i said men are more likely to get pushed into universities by their
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parents it's not true specifically in conservative areas conservative areas definitely more conservative
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conservative you are the less likely you are to go to university you're gonna go to trade work
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although that's somewhat socioeconomic too okay it's very socioeconomic dark omen thank you for the
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t-shirt purchase shop.whatever.com guys if you want to get some merch shop.whatever.com we've got
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some great stuff on there we got t-shirts hoodies other articles of clothing that can
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prevent you from being naked i guess okay we have uh sib chair one thank you for proving lucas's
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point iq has nothing to do with education iq measures how well your brain thinks not what
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your brain knows iq is mostly 80 percent heritable 20 percent early nutrition
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you want to respond to uh well that's not really a question it's just a thank you
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do you want to like tell him you think he's cool or something you love him okay she loves you
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all right claim chair one they really like you you are never i know they love me you're never
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allowed on my misspelled spelled wrong yeah wow you're right misspelled misspelled but if you can
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explain the pythagorean theorem i may let the others on on it or even easier what is negative 40 celsius
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converted to fahrenheit he spelled bro you spelled fahrenheit wrong negative 40 is like um it's really
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cold i think he maybe he was misspelling it intentionally to get under your skin all those
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words well clean thank you bro you're thank you dude thank you clean clean thank you big sass energy
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chair one did the ordo amoris meme what is that i don't know you brian you really need to start
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bringing in the ordo amoris heat map memes into the the show it's very exposing it demonstrates the
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order of care love i don't know what wait big sass energy what is ordo amoris i'm not sure what that
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is thank you though man appreciate it more money and tell us what you think chef dill pickles chair
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one insulted chair six over three times calm down lady it's just a conversation you did you were a
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little mean to uh she's mean to all women and offending me strongly she was not how am i how
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am i her opinion how am i offending you she wasn't you said she was weak you just look dead in my eyes
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and tell me over and over again that i'm weak and i could never do anything just because i'm a woman
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that offends me greatly i am also weak i also said that earlier okay that should offend you too
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don't take it personally we respect diversity opinions here that's why there's a discussion here
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every not an opinion every tax attorney don't take it personally i'm allowed to take things
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personally though let yeah you know as the person i can she is a misandrist and that is why liberal
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all right uh let's see here we have josh brooks we don't fit in of course however i totally agree
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however no yeah exactly however the however fallacy is atrocious it probably insinuates uh
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possibility to be wrong uh however insinuates a contradiction you can say too much however
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i'm not even american and i know like you're not supposed to was it you no no he's saying that i
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say however too much however however yeah maybe i don't know all right we have chef dill pickles here
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to which he says chair one do men have duties unique to them likewise do women have duties unique to
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them um well men can't give birth so i would say a woman's not duty but something that only women can
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do is give birth do they have a duty to have children no okay they don't do men have any
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duties no they don't no um breathe and live like that's for when women and men what about forced
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military conscription i don't think that should be a thing at all but it is a thing but it shouldn't be
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but it is a thing so you would have to concede it is a male duty but he's asking should men and
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women have different duties or do they already well hold on in my opinion no there's no duties
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specific to men or women in the us's opinion that no he didn't say should sorry he didn't say should
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he said do men have duties unique to them likewise do women have duties unique he's not saying should
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he's saying do they have that um i mean is is the draft even still like a big thing
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different there's well it depends on the country but even in the united states there is a duty that
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men have so there's not an active conscription but there is the selective service system where all men
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have to register for for the selective service which would make them subject to forced military
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conscription women are barred completely from this so i guess i guess that is a male duty however i
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don't think it should be if that makes sense okay but this would probably point towards the oppression of
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men men are oppressing that system why would that matter be what are you talking about why would it matter
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who made that system it wouldn't it wouldn't that's not a a rebuttal to the fact that men would be
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oppressed under said system men created a system where men have to go to war yeah but which men
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which men which men the problem is you don't know that if women were in charge would there be a draft
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we don't know because women haven't been in charge like that to to decide the draft or whatever is going
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on well the the laws as they currently are on the books women are exempt from military conscription men are
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not but i believe and maybe i'm wrong and we can't be i can't be i can't be proven wrong i can't be
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proven right but if women were in charge of the laws maybe the draft wouldn't be a thing maybe
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but you don't know that you're shaking your head no no we can i personally believe
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okay i personally believe there should be no forced militarization there should be no forced draft no
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one should be drafted no one should be taken to the military on purpose like it should be
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a voluntary thing yeah but i can also say there shouldn't be war and there should never be violence
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but given that we live in a society where war is a realistic problem there's a realistic uh chance of
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it happening there could be pretext or reasons for a war occurring it could be a defensive war
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we as a nation could even say we never want to go to war but if another country has a different set
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of values and then they just invade us for conquest you would agree that we would need to have a military
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to defend ourselves right yeah but a lot of people volunteer for the military sure people do volunteer
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but only majority which is majority men by the way but if we had to force people to go to war
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as the law currently stands only men can be drafted well that sucks i don't think that should be a
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flaw well but i didn't make that law a thing but there shouldn't but it's kind of like this sort of
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pie in the sky there shouldn't be a draft well there shouldn't be war but given the reality that
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governments one governments and nations will not relinquish their right to force it's typically
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male citizenry into uh military conflict we have to think about okay well since this is the case
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then what what do you mean then what well it would go it would go to the point that men have duties and
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women don't isn't it but do you think that's fair i don't even think that's fair you're a man you
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think that's fair i don't think it's fair i'm look i'm not in favor i'm very much against military
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conflicts we can both we can all sit here and say war bad no of course everyone thinks war is bad
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or whatever right i'm just saying i don't they're asking me if men have duties and sure but men get
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drafted or whatever do i think that should be the case no and you're acting like i put that law into
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but okay that that's the world that's fine but given the reality that men have to register with a
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selective service do you think women should equally have to register also yeah okay why is that because
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it's unfair to only make one gender register for war sure but i don't think anyone should why is it
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not the case though that like wouldn't this create an equality between men and women and it seems like
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feminists are not really fighting for this i'm pretty sure most feminists just say that no one should
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be forced to go to war everyone should be able to sign up for it man or woman people are not signing i mean
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what i've heard from like my liberal cohorts is that like no one should be forced to go to war no one
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should be picked who didn't offer themselves to go fight in the u.s military okay but here's the thing
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is that it's not something that's ever going to go away like absent some sort of technological
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singularity where like the world we live in is so different and so unconceivably novel to what anything
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we've experienced the reality of it's almost inevitable there are going to be national geopolitical
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conflicts and war is sort of to some degree an inevitability okay so given that there it's just
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never going to go away and so i guess i still believe that even if war never goes away no one should be
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forced into the military but can i let me give you an example then and you tell me what should be the
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case so let's say there's a we're all here in the united states and let's say we're not a superpower
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right because right now we have the most dominant military in the world right uh but let's say we
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weren't and let's say uh i'll use i'll use russia uh russia is just more dominant as a superpower this
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is a hypothetical yeah it's not the actual case currently but russia is more dominant in their military
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might and we know that they're going to be invading us we get some intelligence that they're going to
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invade and this this russia in this hypothetical scenario is very violent and very aggressive
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and they're actually monstrous they're monsters and if they do invade the country it's going to be a land
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invasion and they invade us what they're going to do is kill all the men and they're going to take
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all the women and take them as war brides do you know that what a war bride is yeah yeah okay so they're
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going to force the women into marriages and basically essentially grape the women yeah um
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the only way and we could predict this somehow we don't have the military might to uh defeat russia
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right but if we were to draft men and force men even let's say it's against their free will
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we could force the men to fight and if we did do that then we would be able to stop this country
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uh stop russia from killing all the men and graping all the women under and you were the dictator of
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this country and you could impose this draft would you impose the draft so just to be clear uh all the
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men would die anyways and all the women including yourself would be uh essayed you would you would
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well first the problem is we don't know the outcome when it starts it's a hypothetical question so you can
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give me the outcome before i answer in the which you did i said yes if we don't if we don't draft
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they're going to be victorious but from the start of the war you don't just know oh if we don't draft
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they are going to be victorious you don't know that well you know certainly you can tell the entire
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society if we don't act now if people don't volunteer then we're all going to die or whatever
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yeah but i personally do not think it's ethical to force people into situations
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okay so just and you don't know the outcome huh in in a real life scenario you don't know the
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outcome you can only see can you see why a country under those sorts of circumstances and mind you
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historically uh an entailment of historical wars was that if the other nation invaded your country
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and they were more powerful they were going to kill all the men yeah and they were going to do bad
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things to the women yeah right a lot and so the countries made a determination and they said well
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free will is important but what's more important is having the men possibly survive and making sure
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the women don't get graped so just to be clear if you were the leader you would not force men to go
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and fight under these potential circumstances i wouldn't force anyone so just to be clear your
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lack of action would result in all the men dying anyways and all the women being graped but you
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don't know that's the fact that's the entailment you don't think there's still some people who went
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to the military who would try to fight you don't think we'd have any shot wait if i if a genie came
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to me and said if you don't act now this is what's going to happen then maybe i'd change my answer but
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you never know what's going to happen at the start of a war just so just to be clear those bad things that
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happen in the hypothetical have happened historically yeah when there's been war yeah and there have
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also been men who are like i also don't want to go and die you're not going to force me to go to war
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but they get forced to go to war to prevent that very thing from not happening
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hypotheticals are all hypotheticals i don't really know what you want me to say you could answer the
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i answered and said i would not force anyone to do anything okay and you said that means everyone's
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gonna get killed and raped but that's not the truth is because it's a hypothetical i said great
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but in the hypothetical it's granted that this invading force has more military might okay if
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you told me if a genie came down and told me i'm from the future and this is exactly what's going to
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happen then let's say it's 50 that is not the truth let's say there's never gonna happen hold on
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you're never gonna know what here's here's the intel so here's the here it is 50 chance so if you
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draft the men you could still lose right it's not a certainty but there's a 50 chance that if you draft
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all the military age men that you do have a there's a 50 chance that you're able to defeat the invading
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enemy under those circumstances would you do a draft i don't know i'd have to be a leader of a country and
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know what nuclear powers we had and know all my forces let's assume let's remove nuclear let's
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so we have no bombs no guns no nothing uh there's guns it's just there's guns there's guns but there's
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no nuclear weapons i don't know i would not want to force people to go to war people can make their
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own decisions it would it would suck if my country went down but if everyone in my country said i don't
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want to go to war then i'm not going to say too bad you have to because i believe in rights
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okay sounds like you're not doing what it would take to protect men and women from being killed or
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raped but well i don't know nowadays we have a ton of nuclear weapons we have things protecting us and
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we have a lot of people who volunteer the problem with your hypothetical is it would never fucking happen
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though there's hold on there's currently ongoing military conflicts in the middle east and in
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ukraine do they have a choice to just like end it all no and they do draft people and it is a big
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problem i just believe that no one should be forced into something like that because it's sad
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men or women okay all right i'm gonna move it on we have uh tone police patriarchy great job
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tonight brian you have been dealing with difficult personalities hi felicity great to see you at the
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table chair six great job expressing yourself keep it up one two three four oh chair six okay all right
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we have christian king ah yeah let's have illegal immigrants working slave wages instead of americans
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and abort our working class america will be third world with this ideology liberalism leads to death
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chair six based we should all pay people equal paying rights and we shouldn't use immigrants
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for like the non-paying jobs but this is the world that we live in this is how in order to solve these
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problems you'd have to completely uproot our entire we have to just throw everything out
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they're just saying i'm based all right sorry pasty for the delay hold on quiet guys quiet please
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chair one why aren't more women doing the dirty dangerous menial and labor-intensive jobs in the
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world what is stopping them why are you not doing one of those jobs now care six is based like i've
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already said um women aren't doing those jobs because it's not expected of them because of
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societal pressures that are put on in men which is unfair towards men i agree however it was created
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by men and it's upheld by men um and what was the other thing that they said they said why why am i
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not doing a job like that now because i don't have to and a lot of the people who work those jobs those
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are the jobs that they are able to get i'm sure if you asked a guy on an oil rig would you rather work
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this job or become like a ceo of some giant company he'd pick ceo however not everyone's hand is dealt the
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same circumstances all right we have a waste of money is there a hide that the uh is there a single
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women can do excuse me is there a single job women can do that men can't i can't think of one
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honest question give birth like i don't know that's the only thing job but that's the only thing that's
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the only difference then there is none and i never said there was one oh surrogacy that is a good
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job or a gig well you can get paid for surrogacy what's the difference you can get paid for a gig
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i think when he's talking about job though you have to be a bit charitable here like something that
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is um like a physical job can women be sperm donors no okay i don't think we would say like
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i don't know if that would be like fair to make it but women can't be sperm donors so if you put eggs
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and sperm in the same category women can donate eggs and men can donate sperm and that's like one
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of the only differences but other jobs men and women can both do i never said that women can do
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more than men i'm just saying like we have big sass energy here he says ordo amoris demonstrates
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order of care conservatives care more about the things closest to them family friends humans
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libs care more about rocks trees sticks inanimate objects please use we care about the mother earth
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oh my god thank god well weren't you saying that you think the world would be better if there were
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no humans yeah but it will come back to natural but what i'm saying what does that mean is that
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it would be more peaceful there would be less destruction there would be less global warming and
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things would just be a little bit more peaceful however however humans are already here i'm not saying
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we should get rid of humans by all means like we're already here i just think we should be more careful
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about where we live and we shouldn't only care about ourselves quick question for you are you like
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you're kind of uh consider yourself an environmentalist or yeah a little bit question uh do you think we
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should as on the individual level take steps to reduce our usage of like plastics for example yes yeah
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okay like not drinking from water bottles or reducing our single-use plastics or reducing plastic
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use in general um and you think that this would have a and i actually don't disagree with you this
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would have like a positive impact like if we use less plastics if every single person on the world
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used less plastics then totally however it's hard to get everyone on board especially when plastics are
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so easy so it makes sense that we use people right it makes sense that things are going wrong however
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there's some steps that we could totally take to make things better and we're just not taking okay um
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question for you uh would you consider not wearing makeup yeah well that would reduce that would
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reduce your usage of sort of disposable products often makeup comes in like plastic containers yeah
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and i don't know are you maybe you're wearing just a bit of mascara or eyeliner i'm wearing some
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mascara some concealer some blush i use the companies that i know like don't test on animals and are
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cleaner brands i mean it's hard so i want to wear makeup because it makes me feel pretty but
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i under i understand i understand where you're coming from with that
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well you feeling pretty is more important than the environment
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me not buying a tiny bit of concealer made from a vegan brand
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probably wouldn't save the entire planet however if all women on earth said what if we all stop
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using makeup i'd totally be on board yeah well i don't use makeup every day my makeup lasts me
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months and again i try to use clean brands that don't give out so much fossil fuels and aren't as bad
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for the planet well the however i don't want to go out in public feeling sad every day so i like putting
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on a little bit of makeup well i mean i the cosmetic industry is such a global behemoth i mean
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it's a billion multi-billion maybe even in the trillion dollar industry but it is interesting that
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preying on women's insecurities yeah sure i guess i would agree with that but look it's just interesting
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to me when you know i i think on the look the primary drive of uh environmental um what's the term
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for it environmental uh what's the word uh conservation no there's another it's evading
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me environmental pollution uh is typically through corporations yeah like individual if you look at the
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individuals versus corporations although like these corporations are doing these things in furtherance
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of individual level consumerism so they're kind of inextricably linked but it is interesting to me
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that if we were to get rid of and i don't think makeup really serves any utility except i guess
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as you said making women feel better yeah i guess um i think there's not an actual like for example
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uh like spoons and forks have like a utility like we use that to eat i guess you could just
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use your hands or whatever but there's like there are certain materials that are made that do have
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negative impact on the environment that have a utility i don't think makeup has any actual utility
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and i'd love to see how about viagra why is viagra i think that doesn't have utility why do we make
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viagra i huh it's such a ridiculous point trying to say that i could argue it but it's just such a
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ridiculous uh viagra is not a necessary thing and men get it for free from the doctors
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and birth control is not free but we have to pay for birth control i'm just all the talking i'm
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just saying if you're trying to play gotcha with me it's not a gotcha yes i wear makeup yes i like
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have socks on from cvs who isn't a great brand you know there's lots of things you could play gotcha
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with me about the environment i think socks are necessary though i'm not against okay i'm just saying
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like yes i understand that like i'm not the poster child for environmental protectionism sure however
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i'm saying there are steps that the government could even just take to like lower carbon emissions
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well the only reason i brought it up is you're like well the world would be better without humans i
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assume part of your argument here is that due to the uh humanity's impact on the environment and our
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harm to like ecosystems and whatever part of this relates to uh environmental and ecological um what is
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oh my god why am i keep blanking on the words uh to pollution uh and i was thinking like okay well
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here's one simple thing that you could do on the individual level and i think it'd be great actually
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if all women did it is just cease your consumption of makeup products and i'm asking here if we can do
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a call to action here on the whatever podcast would you be willing to make a a environmental commitment
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to stop wearing makeup entirely for the rest of your life for the sake of the environment
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if some study said that only me stopping wearing my small amount of makeup would save the planet then
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i definitely would do it but but you would agree but but makeup could be natural you could use beat
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to put makeup on this girl i'm you're killing me devil's advocate yeah clearly um go ahead
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there are so many things i could do that would like when i get my when i get my own car i'll try to
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get a hybrid because i know that's the best for the environment okay when i take showers i try to
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make them shorter if i'm shampooing my hair i'll turn the water off and shampoo and then turn the
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water back on but even but i'm just wearing makeup that's it but your thing is like you're like trying
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to play a gotcha moment stop wearing makeup there are so many other things i could do then do those
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things also i do those things but also my choice to wear a little bit of makeup does not make me a
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bad non-environmentalist person i think if you're it does not matter and you can keep playing gotcha
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with me but honestly i don't give a fuck so well i think if you're going to make the argument and you
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did make the you did say that that individual humans or what on the individual level you said that
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we can take actions to reduce our environmental impact and i'm simply offering extending to you
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a call to action stop using your makeup products which are pollutants and they use plastics and they
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there's like even some of these makeup companies use like child labor in other countries well to
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your knowledge no i make a conscious effort you research all the all the makeup you think the
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champagne you bought wasn't made i don't care like stuff like that like he doesn't care i'm not
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an environmentalist yeah no i i to to clarify though i do think it's important to protect the
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environment like i don't think corporations should be dumping toxic sludge into into waterways for
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example i do believe that there should be some controls on corporations from like yeah they shouldn't
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be able to pollute the environment however like i'm not against like fossil fuels like i realize that
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fossil fuels have like positive them either i just think we could use less and we could make an
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effort to use less we should go nuclear that's what i think everyone should do nuclear nuclear would be
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fantastic let me move it on though because we've got a bunch of chats to get through
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george donated two hundred dollars chair one you don't want to go out into the world without makeup
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otherwise you would feel sad you are so full of shithel mfao okay i wear i don't want makeup all the
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time yeah me pasty george well put watch my tiktok there's no makeup in all of them thank you um i don't
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wear makeup a lot of efforts you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar claim says chair six stand your
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ground you are 200 better than chair one yes intentional mistakes uh negative 40c is negative
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40f look it up or just check her ice heart it's not chair one easy to talk about war when you've never
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been you're right i've never been you got me there have you been like what this guy been no yeah clean
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all right keyboard warrior nice bangs big forehead chair one only argues in out and that means she's
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smarter in ought and what about isms she hasn't said anything with a basis in reality entire pod you
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want to respond to those accusations if you believe that i don't think i'm going to be able to change
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your mind if you believe okay thank you dimitri hi brian i'm a myofascial practitioner from denver
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with eight years of experience i've developed groundbreaking techniques that have transformed
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many lives i followed your show and i'm aware of your neck issues for a while hey give me an ice
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i need a nice pack my neck is bugging me uh thank you for bring reminding me dimitri uh i genuinely
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believe i can help you significantly are you interested uh yeah sure man uh have you dm me
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before on instagram just brian atlas x on instagram he wants to give you a massage
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okay he wants to take your money or maybe he wants to help out i don't know i don't think he's i
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think he's probably offering for free i mean uh he's probably offering to help what i'm that's
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i'm not thinking to be true that's a very nice gesture emotional damage chair one sits under the
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comfort men provide to talk like but you guys gotta listen chair one sits under sorry the
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you're what i naturally sign i sit under the no sign is really good and it's good for your energy
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it clears your energy guys please treat these women the way they deserve to be treated this is the
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result of men simping up to these rats i love simps these women are not worth a second look let alone
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our chivalry okay we don't want it from you anyway right oh snap we want it from men that are willing oh
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snap it will yeah i have plenty of men thank you for the 10 memberships thank you i just they don't
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like any of us hey what they like they like you felicity what the fuck i don't know what felicity's
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turning heel boys felicity's turning heel okay here's what we got to do guys we got to get through
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uh you know let's bring it back to wait oh did i not save the comments from
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okay uh i didn't save the stifler comment i don't know where the hell it went did it get
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unstarred somehow that's weird okay anyways whatever uh what a stifler earlier in the
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conversation he said uh going around the table all the women rate your looks on a scale of one
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to ten you can't pick seven starting with you maren can't pick seven it's so funny honestly i
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would say maybe a six or a five okay i don't think i'm not attractive what about you ten ten okay maybe
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eight maybe an eight okay are you able to scoot your chair this way a little bit like scoot that
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way yeah scoot that way uh eight what about you i'll go nine okay nine what about you sophia bergari
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is a ten i'm not a ten i'm a five okay five what about you i do all right what about you six okay
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so we have that we we have ten oh i give myself a five it takes a ten to know a ten give myself a five
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uh so wait ten eight nine okay gotcha uh for those of you who said ten eight nine we'll start
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with ten uh can you tell me a a woman who like maybe a famous woman who you think is a ten megan
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marco oh no no megan the other girl the fox no the girl from australia she plays uh i'm not really
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bad with names wait in the wolf of wall street yeah her her name's not margot i'm really bad
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with names honestly so robbie okay marco that's like that's like the queen or the princess of
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england yeah but she's still a ten too well i'm talking about that's my that's who my okay top
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tier of or uh what's her name uh scarlett johansson and i've seen her without makeup and she was a ten
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and she's a sweet girl she was super sweet when i met her
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you don't think she's a ten scarlett johansson
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sydney sweet i love her too so and so you're i'm like them yes you're on their level in terms of looks
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okay interesting in it okay uh do you can you think of as smart as rich as can you have an eight
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yes myself no but like a like a female celebrity um that would be kind of tough um
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i'll come back to you uh can you think of a nine female like a female celebrity who you think is a nine
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i'm gonna say no i'm not big into celebrity culture and i say that because of the way people
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life experience as in people look at me like like they should recognize me like i'm from some show or
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like i am celebrity i have people come up to me all the time anywhere i go talking about how gorgeous my
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hair is how i have all these amazing features so if you're saying physical looks i think i'm on the
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upper side of the scale i get hit on a lot okay um oh yeah i thought of someone now uh i mean
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because there's not so many well-known asian celebrities but there's this one celebrity from china
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um i think some people have told me i do look like her so i figured if people always say i look
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like her then she's better be oh wait you're asking someone we look like no a celebrity that
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we look like your level yeah your level like she could be a she could be black she could be white
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she could be latina but like your level but just hotness not personality league all the other things
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looks league physical appearance yeah who is it so have you watched this movie called memorial geisha
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nope okay so um the the main character can you pull it up uh can you google it what's her name uh
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her her first name is z-i-y-i and her last name is z-h-a-n-g you like the black pink from the
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korean band oh which one lisa or jenny better be jenny is that racist no no it's like i sometimes get
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caught i look like so and so a lot and i think one time i was in northern california a woman just
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approached me and asked me oh are you like miss korea 2019 i was like i don't even know who the heck
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that is but thank you okay yeah all right thanks and uh let's see how about you what do you think
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about yourself what are you he said five i said i'm a five five yeah five have a little bit more
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self-esteem but just physically like i can't change i actually think you could change you
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could go to the gym you could work out i mean you're tall you're you have good you have good
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eyes you could you could put in a little work we could both work in that department but i know i'm a
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little thick she just said that shit to me and like what are you talking about but as in only thin
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people are hot yeah like she's hotter than her because she's 10 pounds thinner is what you're saying
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wait who that's what i'm insinuating you're saying she could go to the gym and use it wait
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she said that shit to me right sorry i'm giving you i'm giving you look at her like she's a perfect
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10 so i'm saying because she's thinner what you're saying thin equals hot no bro are you listening
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felicity felicity was criticizing me being like brian you can't say that to a woman and i was like
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hold up she said that shit to me first i forgot i've spaced out for a second i'm just saying we all
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have a way to make our markets share a little bit higher and you know you have to put a little
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bit of effort we all have to put in a little effort you are so right thank you
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okay uh okay i'll deal with that later so um oh and then can you tell me champagne can you tell me a
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10 a male 10 that you think is like on your level well i guess he would have to be oh oh chris
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hemsworth can we pull up uh google chris hemsworth did you get the show us the lady
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door show us the lady first then google chris hemsworth door door like yeah yeah i know who that
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is i'm just saying that that's peak okay show us the lady please
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okay you look like her uh she's just a bit older yeah she's older she's a bit maybe the one at the
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bottom when she was honestly bro you're better looking than her oh thank you you're better
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looking all right you're out next time i'll take it next chris hemsworth please all right guys if
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you're enjoying the stream reading 100 tts 200 uh venmo cash app whatever pod let me read a couple
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from you guys jason think for the 15 on cash app thomas think for the two on cash app uh oh what the
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heck okay um colin thank you for the 10 on cash app joanne i think for the 150 on uh cash app
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appreciate it also guys if you're enjoying the stream like the video also go to twitch.tv
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chris hemsworth is a 10 for you correct for who so if you met chris hemsworth you i've met his
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brother liam okay and is liam a 10 too yes so you would be like you could date chris hemsworth
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potentially potentially i don't date all physical features yeah yeah so you're just asking about
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hotness yeah oh so you're saying she has less of a chance based off no she's saying like he might be
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hot but he also might be an asshole and then she wouldn't want to date him exactly you guys always
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go to like these extra what bro there's too much shit going on what the fuck can you all chill out
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holy shit god damn uh okay you're in chris hemsworth's you're in his league i like long hair yes i love
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guys with long hair i get you like guys with long hair are you in his league totally okay um what about
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you you're a nine can you think of a guy who's a nine who's like in your league or whatever no not
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off the top of my head like you're asking about celebrity there'd be a recognizable name yeah
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uh jake gyllenhaal what do you rate jake gyllenhaal seven can we see a picture pull
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it please google jake he looks he's like a little cutie he's like nice looking yeah yeah
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how tall is hold on how tall is jake gyllenhaal are we talking about included or just face card
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like what's the vibe yeah i don't know face he's wait he's six feet oh he's six feet tall
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he reads short on camera i smashed scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down he is a seven
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so yeah hold on whoa whoa whoa wait wait wait wait wait hold on shut the hold on him with hair and
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hold on him with i would go jalen hurts from eagles wait you think he's you think jake gyllenhaal's
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a seven and because we just like different types of men what kind what's your type okay you like
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black guys no it doesn't have to do with race but like 10 would be um this guy i've been following
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for like years charles leclerc my favorite formula one driver charles leclerc yes who's that uh if you
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watch formula one then you absolutely don't know this guy i've been to the gumball but like i said
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yeah some guys some people don't find him hot but i just like a different type of guy all right
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everybody has yeah look it's subjective i'm just so you would be settling for jake gyllenhaal
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depends on that's pretty crazy personality it depends on the personality but i heard he's
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not a very nice person but for you you're in you're a nine jake gyllenhaal's a seven you would
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be settling for jake gyllenhaal as in right i don't find actors like somebody who plays somebody
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else for a living to be that attractive i would go with like a pro athlete like who like jalen
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hurts okay michael jordan michael jordan he's married he's got great moral values his branding is
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great branding what the branding yeah all actors are branded so you're saying do we buy into the
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bullshit girls are like no i don't want to fuck him because of his branding yeah it's hot like
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i'm sorry the whole love hurts nike campaign they changed the whole like love statue in the
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city of philadelphia to put his last name behind like he's hot right now and he's physically hot
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and he just won the super bowl so okay what's his name jalen hurts all right google that guy
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you should see the way he licks his lips on camera it's like super hot i've never thought a
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football player was hot like that before i know who he is now chat i don't even know what to say
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boys i don't know what to say and i and i i love watching men he was totally the underdog all right
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this is totally not him first of all that's the gift you spelled his name wrong j-a-l-e-n hurts h-u-r-t-s
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you said that's not even him first of all like go first can we get this pulled up a little
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quicker who do you think is a celebrity like on your level do you wait do you do you have it
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i'm hearing you're so sassy sorry jalen hurts eagle ball yeah but i do want to know the answer to that
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okay uh scroll down scroll down scroll down i wanted to see more photos okay super physically fit
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uh okay can we see like a face picture i mean scroll up there was a there's a couple okay all
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right scroll up very top can you give me that one other guy just for further reference one other guy
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that's a nine or whatever um i think so many people are hot hey please don't do sidebars we said it
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multiple times at the beginning of the show please don't talk like okay channing tatum is like totally
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google channing tatum please i would never want to date him though wait i don't even know if i know
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what channing tatum looks like what is a guy here give us a guy you're asking me physically like
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physically give us a guy who's in your league who you would also date
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she would pass on channing tatum by the way but okay i'm saying he's probably a player like he's
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probably not the type of guy i want to date but he's hot he's talking about just just superficial
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just superficial yeah okay let's go channing tatum then there we go
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oh yeah i like him okay so is that what it looks like right now i well i mean there's
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variants here there's that second one he looks younger magic mike was my favorite these other
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ones he looks older uh so okay is there jake jump seven really you think jake gyllenhaal's a seven
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these girls are settling for jake gyllenhaal fellas don't group us all young brad pitt
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it's all group young brad pitt what what do you give him like in his 30s so that's like troy or
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wait fight club troy oh fight club yeah that was his prime right she likes the shirtless moments
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with brad pitt there what do you rate he is he's a petite man to me so for me he was always like an
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eight heat wait yeah and he reads he reads small on camera how tall is he how tall is i'm not sure
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i thought he's like i think he's average he's brad pitt's 5 11. wow i'm older than brad pitt
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that's short it's kind of crazy yeah but in film guys are usually smaller that's just facts like
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in acting guys they don't chat this is this is what you're dealing with in the dating marketplace
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these girls think they'd be settling for like these girls you've only asked the three who ran
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themselves very high i mean clearly i think all of these men are far out of my league he's not a
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great dude okay but also i am 19 and they're like in their adults so i'm not sure but i personally
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think i think jake gyllenhaal is even out of my league not chris what hit no all right the guy from
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the notebook no i just never found him too attractive because i think it's like the
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person you know who so many men find attractive and i don't understand that fully is ryan reynolds
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a lot of men think ryan reynolds is like the hottest guy ever and he's not ugly but i like
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don't understand why men specifically like think ryan i think it's like personality thing probably
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he is hilarious they probably are like likely his husband yeah but what does he do he's an actor
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i don't know what he looks like what is ryan reynolds in is he's in some sort of a marvel
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thing i think now she's been cancelled have you seen i didn't say settling for jake gyllenhaal um
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okay not not all of them you must really like jake gyllenhaal yeah maybe who knows maybe you have
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like a guy crush on him wait can i ask you just one question like not offensive at all i just
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genuinely want to know like what's a celebrity a girl celebrity that you think is in your same
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that you think you could pull that you think you'd like be i've pulled celebrities though
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that's not nothing just in terms of looks yeah i rejected so uh taking personality out of it
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completely just like looks wise who do you think you could match up well with i'm not really big in
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on celebrity culture so that was my answer so yeah no i mean i'm trying the thing is is this
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question is more to like look at these sort of extremes where like you guys are rating yourselves
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on par with like like the most attractive people not you these three here though well ten eight nine
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that's like nine is that's cruel in poland i'm a seven in america i'm a ten interesting
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i have all natural features natural hair natural tips natural everything so i do think that i was
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like gifted a beautiful body i've got great eyes and all my teeth so i i don't understand why you think
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i would rate myself any lower like i she has great self-esteem yeah i'm a confident human you could
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say i specialize in making other women feel sexy for a living doing she would take amazing photos
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helping women figure out how to style themselves in lingerie me huh great me i think a five's accurate
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how tall are you i'm six foot one okay that gives you buying points so just to be clear if you and me
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you're how old are you you're 30 35 okay we're i'm 36 we're about the same age so if we met somewhere
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you're a nine and you think you're nine and i'm a five i think i'm a five you think i'm a five
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you would be said you would four points you're going you're going into the ditches to date me
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like you're you're you're scooping the bottom of the bottom of the personally think hot guys cheat
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more so i've i don't have an issue dating somebody who i don't think is like a 10
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on the hot scale like i think personal she was i think personality and like how you vibe with the
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person matters a lot more than how many abs they have because people can get abs you can buy them
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and you can go to the gym so like you might not look great now but if you're in a happy relationship
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you might want to work on yourself a little bit and then you might become an eight or nine
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women can help men level up and vice versa yeah yeah i think like if if we were dating like no offense
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i i i'm not you know maybe we got different assessments you probably wouldn't date me either
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it's all good i'm just saying like in terms of helping each other level up like maybe there's
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work in both departments that could be done that's all i'm gonna say you know you've been directing a
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little bit of a brian saying i'm at my ideal weight right now i was in a car accident two months ago and
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have definitely gained weight since then but it doesn't mean i'm less attractive wait what do you mean
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picking clothes that fit your figure whether you're thin or fat you can be a 10 i don't think
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that you have to be a certain weight and height it's the way you can't be hot well it also depends
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on the person it's styling it's wardrobe guys some guys nothing to do with whether you have a six pack
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or not some guys a little bit uncomfortable sitting next to you why because you were why you keep
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wanting to see young brian i said that one time bro felicity is like let's see you in your 20s
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yeah she's right because she's calling you a little gooner over here she's right i want to
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see you in your 20s i'm not saying he's overweight i'm just saying he's not like in an athletic shape
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when you were he's in video video this is this is peak male i am not hitting on you this is
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peak male performance you no thank you felicity i know i know i'm joking it's a little banter
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pull it up pull it up pull up young brian i mean your pictures on instagram look good with the girl
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i want to see young brian me too like come on welcome okay thank you felicity pull it up
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brian pull it up nothing the the photo but i wonder how old were those instagram pictures
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couple years is he catfishing no what what no i'm saying those pictures on our instagram account you
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actually looked very good there damn bro she's saying how old are they are they ryan night
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why why is this alternative god damn brian you looked good you used to look good
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you could look good again are we pulling it up are you seeing who are dating what's your
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situation it's a young brian picture dog dog or just god damn do i gotta okay felicity entertain them
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try your best yeah or just pull his instagram account up i don't know all right i have a question
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circling back to something from earlier if that's okay so we were discussing how most of us think that
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men should pay on the first date my question was how many dates should a guy take you on before
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you decide to sleep with him and some reading glasses if you're somebody who's waiting for
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marriage do you think the guy needs to pay for everything all the way up until that point oh
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shit anyways back to me yeah that makes sense oh all right here's young brian come on you are so
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fucking hot that's you that's a 10 definitely that's not you you don't even what age are you
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in that are you serious what age are you in that uh like 22 i think wow what happened well don't say
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hey you got a boyfriend chill out i'm just surprised i'm just surprised because you without
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the beard and with that hair is much different than you with the facial hair damn bro you got
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a boyfriend you got to be careful what you're saying and you're what 36 no i'm saying it's not
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even about that it's just saying uh you're saying you would smash another i never said that okay that
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was her my bad i got it i would i just said wow that was the question pull it back and that
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in this in this world where if i'm just shocked because when i'm looking at these two like i can
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see the similarities but also it's very different now yeah you know and i'm just like it's like two
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decades that's like two decades right there yeah when i look at pictures of my dad when he was younger
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i'm shocked because he does not look like my dad what we've done with you guys is we've we've put
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all of you through ai well hold on we'll get to that i need to wait is that what the waiver
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pull up my instagram pull up my instagram pull that shit up put us all through ai uh you'll see
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but oh you put like our faces through what ai to the bottom oh just see what we roll to the
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bottom mary mary scroll to the bottom the mustache wait can i guess the year of the mustache was
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that 2016 oh you're a surfer that's brian this is me that's like scroll up you're a surfer
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wait scroll up to the mustache picture look how thin i was can i see oh my god can we see the
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mustache picture that's hot x out of that go back up for a little bit oh wait go up a little bit
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felicity's gooning over here what the way go up a little bit gooner this is not the same chill out
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felicity bro god damn wait scroll up go up scroll up click on the mustache picture that's coming
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scroll up keep going wait wait wait click the angel one the girls love the puppy yeah what's that
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wow excel dad excel scroll up good sport for doing that costume wait click on one of the mustache ones
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uh yeah that one that's such a you were so what year was that uh that was 2012 i think 2012 i guess
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2016 yeah yeah you can click the other ones if you want so you've been doing whatever podcast for that
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long uh the whatever podcast has been like three years i've been doing well your shirt right there says
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what why i was doing different content oh okay okay it's been whatever for a while but i've been
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whatever for a minute wait your old person costume is actually great did you get professional makeup
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it was it was what's the term in uh special effects there's a word for it though prosthetics
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prosthetics yeah yeah scroll up anyways whatever that's all right there it is young brian i don't know
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why young brian we just prefer without facial hair you would look 10 years younger without the
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facial hair maybe bro the triple chin would be by the way one bitcoin if you want to see suck that
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out the the triple chin you know triple chin i'll shave my beard send five thousand dollars and brian
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will shave one bit wax the beard one bitcoin and i will shave my beard to bitcoin he'll wax it right now
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is bitcoin still a thing i thought that was over it's like at 120 000 it's 110 oh it went down okay i
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don't know whatever i still like all right number four who's rachel de losel you right that's you
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that's a good question what does that mean oh my goodness i have to pull up some chats i've got
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distracted by looking at my young self that's what i'm saying i was so charmed golly me donating two
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hundred dollars suffragettes gain strong male support for the 19th amendment granting women rights privilege
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no duty would these women fight equally marching in washington dc for men's rights without the draft
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who were men to take away our rights why did we not have rights from the beginning you guys don't
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understand the fact that we should have always had rights this rights would shouldn't have been given
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to us the rights should have been we're human we're both like you guys don't that's the point that you
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you guys don't understand why were we not given rights to to the begin with like the rights
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it's frustrating to meet trinek massage donated two hundred dollars thank you bro appreciate it
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you on brian atlas i'd happily do it for free i'm really not blowing smoke either i've changed the game
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new medical understandings of fascia read the reviews for my business do you know what i'll look into it
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thank you thank you dimitri i'll check my dms after the show appreciate the message we have clean
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here good good clean good clean he says yeah a couple times in combat wouldn't bring it up if i
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hadn't little experience with sacrifice and loss umc uh oath oh 311 that i don't know if i'm saying
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that wrong that's a grunt i know that question was next not telling my unit so he did see com he was in
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combat he was in the military well thank you for your service thank you for your service clean thank
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you thank you you should apologize to clean for questioning his i will not do that
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okay we have chef dill pickles chair three oh boy rate z jinping's looks on scale from one to ten
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am i gonna be censored is this a safe space to talk what uh yeah you can yeah i'm actually gonna call his
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wife tonight and uh yeah and then have a more uh orchestrated answer to that what you're gonna have
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a threesome no i said i'm gonna call she's wife tonight yeah because i'm not like close enough to
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like i've never seen him in person so his wife knows better like on a scale one to ten like how what he is
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oh it was a was that a joke no that was a joke yeah you actually know i don't i don't actually uh
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have the contact information of his wife okay even though i wish otherwise i wouldn't be sitting here
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you said it was such a straight face i really thought you were serious oh cool i can play that
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poke her face she's a lawyer yeah wow good times okay uh going around the table do you think you'll
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be better looking in ten years time better looking looks just looks i don't know hopefully it's going
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to the table if you can um i don't know hopefully hopefully uh yes a million percent do you what do
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you think though i don't know if you had to bet if you had to pick one ten years i'll be almost 30
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yep i'll probably have already had kids by then um okay but hopefully i'll keep going to the gym
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sure and stuff um and feeling good about myself i i don't know i can you how about 20 years can
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you definitively say that you'll right now you're better looking than you will be in 20 years in 20
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years i'll be almost 40 yeah to the male gaze yes to the female gaze i don't know i think i'll enjoy
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the way i look when i'm older sure i'm excited to get old you're 32 better looking in 10 years time
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at 42 yes into the mic please yes uh 20 years time 52 yes 30 years time 62 yes 40 years time 72 yes 50
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years time 82 yes 60 years time 92 uh it's i'm gonna be hot no matter what what age any but all the time yes
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here repeat the question back to me just so i know you you're asking me if i'm gonna be less hot
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compared in 10 years or in the more years yeah well better looking yeah yes i think women age grace
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gracefully and i appreciate women you know i appreciate women's age and i love the way they
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look when they're older me too and i don't i don't i think the women should be aging perfectly in age
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when they get older and i think i'm gonna look hot no matter what okay and then uh and the technology
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is gonna be crazy in the next five years even okay so and then going back uh 10 years time
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are you better looking now at 32 than you were at 22 yes okay um so just to be clear 102
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you will be better looking girl than how you look at my grandpa died at 98 so i project to be old
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i would take care of myself sure let's say you yes i feel like 40 i personally would always think
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myself of being hotter age when i grow older and older i will always be as hot and i'm gonna to men
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i don't care what men think but isn't there a component of when we're talking about attraction
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we are talking about something external to us right that's why i asked are we talking about
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the male gaze or are we just talking about what we think maybe to other people know but for me
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personally yes i will always feel hotter and what age the older i get the more confident i'll get the
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more i'll know who i am the more everything will open up like a flower i'll be blooming even more
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so just to be clear when you're 102 uh or let's say let's even here let me make it more realistic
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let's say when you're 50. yes if somebody could come to you at 50 and let's you know there are
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going to be i suppose some technological advancements when it comes to like plastic
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surgery and skincare and this sort of thing but assuming you didn't opt to have any of those things
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and you just age naturally you don't think it would be the case at 50 if you could wave a magic
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wand and get back the looks that you currently have as it exists right now you wouldn't do it no
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so you i love uh sprinkles i think those are beautiful and i think women should be okay to be
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aging gracefully into their natural bodies and i think it's beautiful i think you're
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i don't know if okay whatever uh what about you you're 29 will you be better looking in 10 years
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time 39 i mean hopefully i'm pretty confident i have good genetics because both my parents are
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still look very young and whenever i go out with them and they don't even people don't even think
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they're my parents and one time i was out with my mom and people thought uh she's my co-worker
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um but also just going off her point i think sometimes it's beyond physical appearance it's
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also about your inner confidence your demeanor uh the way you dress like for example um i am
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biologically older but when i looked at my pictures from early 20s i was like despising myself for like
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the makeup i wore and also the outfits i put on so i think it's all about the mentality um if you feel
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good about yourself because i feel people generally build their confidence more as they get older
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okay um uh let's see here uh so 20 years time will you be better looking at 49.
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if you're simply talking about physical appearance then okay i probably won't look as good but
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on the other hand wrinkles can still be pretty it's not necessary to put in a bunch of botox just to
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disguise the fact that you're aging gracefully okay um all right uh is there any age at which
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you will be less good looking than you are now like is it 59 69 79 maybe um 50 50s okay and then
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are you better looking now at 29 than you were at 19 oh definitely okay going to you you're 35 will you
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be better looking in 10 years time at 45 yes uh will you be better looking in 20 years time at 55
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i i'm i believe and agree with what she said and i think that wisdom is beauty and knowledge is power
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and so wisdom is not like fine wine beauty it's right question is about i think my grandmother is just
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as beautiful now in her 90s as she was in her 20s the cope is insane she's as physically beautiful
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she is a stunning woman and she still dresses and everything about it to a t is beautiful so i think
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that style evolves as you age sorry not the answer you wanted all right um okay so you'll be better
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looking at 105 i didn't say that well i'm asking if you would i don't think i'll be alive at 105 let's
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say you are oh my god bro no physically i'll be wrinkly by then like to a probably in a hospital bed if
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i were to live that long okay so at what point like when's your peak i think when your brain diminishes
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your beauty goes with it when you turn into a vegetable things stop looking nice if you love
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you can i ask you can i i want to ask you both a question like why do you hate all my answers because
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you because if you hold on how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning we didn't
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i fast all the time just fine it's just a hypothetical wait so how would you feel if you didn't have
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breakfast this morning fine but what was your answer to the previous you said i you said you didn't have
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breakfast i didn't have breakfast today i usually don't have breakfast neither did i we went to
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lunch okay um so okay 65 versus 35 better looking at what age i'll go 35 okay and then going back in
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time you're 20 uh better looking at 25 10 years ago or 35 now i look like a totally different person
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so i think both were equally hot i see uh okay uh you're 47 will you be better looking in 10 years
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time at 57 i don't think so into them please into the mic i don't think so okay and you're 47 uh were
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you better looking 10 years ago at 37 than you are now 47 no 20 years ago 27 versus 47 no better looking
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now wait so okay better looking at 20 or 47 than 27 100 but you'll be better you're better looking
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now than you will be at 57 i think so can you speak into the mic can you i need you like this close
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this close enough i don't think i'm um i don't think i'll be okay you're 20 will you be better looking
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in 10 years time at 30 no okay uh pull up the age ai advancements some of you guys said some pretty
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crazy answers here uh so this is go go ahead do you think you've reached your peak beauty babe
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you need to have more confidence i think that's so sad that's very sad you think my whole nose is
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going to change shape you have a lot there's so many things you need to work on your self-esteem
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discover about yourself i've worked on i thought i was ugly for the longest time and i had to work
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that's what they called me when i was little growing up my sister's like you're the ugly duckling i had
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to grow grow into the beauty yeah me too all right here and plastic surgery but that helped
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i mean and and what are these ages this is what ai thinks but what i'm gonna age i don't know um
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ai thinks my whole face is gonna change okay and ai isn't capable of actually understanding what
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the aging process fully is for humans but i'm really glad you're trying to play a gotcha moment with
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me once again i don't think it's a gotcha don't think it's a gotcha but i already said that i
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don't know what i'm like you don't know that that's what i'm gonna look like well of course if you
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showed yourself when you were 20 a picture of you now would you believe yourself let's do the ai on
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your 20 year old picture now to see how yeah let's do that but this is not meant to be offensive this is
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like this is usually like the fun part it's not meant to hurt your feelings over the fun part of the
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the show but okay um hold on one second to me it feels like you're trying to be like look how ugly
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you're gonna get when you're old even though i didn't i say that wait did i say i i didn't
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say oh i didn't say you're making you gotta stop interrupting i didn't say that you said the word ugly
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not me okay did i say the word ugly did you hear what i said tell me what oh repeat it then it's
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making me feel like you are i don't care how you feel your feelings have no basis in reality
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unless i've made it you're asking what we think we can think but not feel like we're women so we
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can't feel we can't think or feel bro i literally did not say that you guys were that had it had
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nothing to do well you started the question with do you think you're still gonna be pretty or what
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do you think am i gonna look like when i'm older and then you show me some weird degraded
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ai picture of me when i'm like saggy and old hold on as if that's fact so hold on well first off
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ai is not going to be a perfect representation it's like making a prediction uh you're it's probably
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not perfect i know it could even be really off but it's to give you a potential representation of
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aging but you started the question by saying do you think you're going to be more attractive
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and you just wanted us to say yes so you could show us a picture of us old and i would have pulled
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this up no matter what all of you went through the ai aging process yeah that's what we're going to do
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but i just want to make it clear i'm willing to make let's move past chair one yeah so so what do you
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want me to say about those pictures so what i'm prepared to say is that i do think as people age they
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become less attractive if you think that that's offensive okay i don't know what to tell you but
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i am prepared to make that claim that yes i think as people get older they generally become less
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attractive at what age do you think beauty peaks i think there are some differentials between men and
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women but i think typically uh if you're asking me about women i would say probably like you're looking
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at peaking at 25 and then i think there's like steady decline okay thank you for your answer
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so do you think when you're like an 80 year old man hopefully married to an idiot you're way too far
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from the mic please so do you think when you're an old man maybe married to an old woman you're not
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going to think your wife is attractive you're going to be staring at 25 year olds well you said that old
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people are ugly and that beauty peaks at 25 you can keep putting words into my mouth that's literally
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what you just said how would it literally be what i just said because you said beauty peaks at 25 and
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it gets ugly as you literally be what i just said if i literally didn't say it because you literally
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said that age like beauty peaks at age 25 so i'm asking literally it's not literally said you would
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still find your old wife attractive you did not say that i'm asking the ai too i'm just but i'm
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just asking we're never gonna finish this conversation he said we're not allowed to feel
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that's that i didn't say you weren't allowed to feel i said i don't care that she feels that i was
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about to say something about women being ugly i didn't say that i thought you're about to say that
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nobody's in control ai that's just what ai thinks i just think the question being phrased is do we
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think we're going to be more or less attractive followed by pictures of us as ai grandmas is
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supposed to be a gotcha moment and i don't like that okay i mean thank you for your contribution go
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ahead pull up we're gonna pull up it is reality or is it you and i are at our peak age right now after
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we have kids you're not your peak we're we're going to can't even legally drink yeah we're going
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to yeah and get uglier it's just the fact of life just cope we're all entitled to our opinions that's
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your opinion and that's it it's reality and we're trying that's your reality it might be yeah it might
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be your reality i think ryan happy that you think you're gonna get uglier with age here let's get i
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i want to move the show along so we can hopefully get through this okay oh who's that oh me that's
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batty batty what's up let me take those dentures out look look look let's go
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sorry i'm not hoping you not do that please um okay so you said i look amazing what do you mean
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what that's funny okay troll i look great uh yeah look it's not even gray like my blonde is
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still blonding it's like better blonde than than the one i'm here like my hair is gonna get even
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nicer like see you're looking for her to be offended by the picture i'm not looking i'm not
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troll because she said she thinks she still looks i think it is a bit of a troll answer to be like
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yeah i'm like to to give that answer to say yeah i'm i'm so hot when it's like come on let's be
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realistic here i see that's right so how we're okay i drink a lot of water i'm gonna stay hydrated
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wow what do you think where i will look i'll look i know i think i'll look way better than that
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yeah just by looking at my parents age but it's okay i'm not offended that's just ai
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i can't wait girl that's not even you in the beginning
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wow they did they did a lot of favors for you what the
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so you wow what do you mean there it's it's what they know it's
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you got a hickey maren is that a hickey i don't know what you're talking what the
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fuck maren oh my sorry i have a boyfriend so your own photo that was taken up and sitting
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at this table you're saying got favors sorry you want one i'm just saying they do a little
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there was a tune-up job what it's they they face tuned the first photo and only mine not anybody
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else's no no i think they do the other ones but i don't stop face tuning the original photos uh
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uh whoever's doing it oh my god i could do a better ai job i'm not very photogenic all right
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next it's a state of mind oh my god she's also not photogenic
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all right let's see felicity here oh what the
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fuck god damn so dirty yikes all right go ahead do me but they totally changed your whole face
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oh my god use that photo from now what are you talking about you look like king child
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wow god damn like does i have her picture good they totally changed like her entire facial anatomy
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right look it's ai it's not gonna be like ugly hyper realistic you know i mean you could do like you
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you could fine tune it but it's just like a super quick thing that people in the discord do um is
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there another one of me okay now we're getting into gender are you gonna make us can you double
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check i look like my brother kind of fire i kind of wait to see all right keep an eye on it keep an
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eye on it to see oh boy okay uh roy zoran thank you for the gifted five subs appreciate it we have
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pasty george here thank you pasty george donated two hundred dollars share one the face and body
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sag as you age you can say whatever you want or even claim gotcha however in reality no woman can
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ever beat the world in reality i'm not attracted to children
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who are so butthurt over an ai picture lmfao women age and if you like women i'm not butthurt
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over the ai picture of a woman's body over um period oh god
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and yes women said so do men hector whenever chair men's balls sag they're up to here
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i'm just saying holy fuck dude okay whenever chair one is asked a question she creates a hypothetical
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to deflect from answering honestly otherwise she's stumped as it contradicts or falsifies
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her worldview she sidesteps the point galore andrew wilson would make her cry by holding her feet to the
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fire um andrew wilson probably would make me cry i'm not even gonna lie he's like a master at rage bait
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i'd probably be getting really upset by him um and creating a hypothetical to deflect from answering
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honestly i'd love for you to like pull up lots of evidence of that but also i believe that all my
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answers have been accurate to what i believe so oh sure hate me if you want but i'll never know
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you in real life and i don't care that was beautiful thank you for sharing that okay we need to get to
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uh let's see here uh you sure have life okay uh i wanted to come back to our conversation we our
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conversation at the beginning of the show was all over the place you were talking about charlie kirk and
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then you went you compared him to andrew tate and then you i just said they're in the same
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category in my mind and you said that charlie kirk would be like you're fearful of women in his
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circle or something like that i don't know what that claim was about um oh i wanted to explore this
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you said you're a misandrist can you explain again what that is um you know i just believe that
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if women were in power there'd be a lot less issues going on in the world if every country in the
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entire world was ruled by women i truthfully wholeheartedly believe that we would have
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so many less issues and even though i may not be able to be proven right or wrong
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that is my belief everyone's intelligent believes sure and i'm not saying i hate men i'm just saying
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that i believe that women are smarter than men in certain ways but and maybe you can try to prove me
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wrong but again i believe that a lot of the educational system like has been set up by the
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patriarchy so it's not fair for you to say that men's iqs are currently higher than women's or
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whatever fact you're gonna throw at me one thing at a time you you shot answering one question i know
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but you're shotgunning a lot a lot of points here i'd like to take them one by one if that's okay so
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they all are grouped together in my mind let me really quickly just explore again you said the
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patriarchy as it relates to the education system we already went over it i quite clearly demonstrated that
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there are more women going to college and getting degrees than there are men this would completely
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contradict and debunk your point that the patriarchy is made like if there was a patriarchy wouldn't it
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be the case that they'd be trying to favor men into higher education have you read history books that
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happened all throughout for the past four decades women have predominated in the university four decades
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of hundreds of thousands of years that this yeah we're talking about right now so here let me but you
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can't talk about right now no ignoring history watch while ignoring history yeah for the sake of
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conversation i and i have some disputes as it relates to his your historical points but i'm just going to
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grant for the sake of argument that you're a hundred percent right historically yes women were had all
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these bars to entry into education system now that i've granted your argument on that let's talk about
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modernity in modernity for the past 40 years well 40 45 years women have had a dis have been
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disproportionately represented in higher education now that now let's talk about that how could it be
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evidence current day that the patriarchy has any sort of foothold in anything if it is the case that
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like if the patriarchy wanted to maintain power and and the patriarchy wouldn't you want to exclude women
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from higher education because you would agree that higher education gives people more opportunity
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and it would try to push the majority of men into having uh opportunity as it relates to higher
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education but that's clearly not the case there's more women in higher education it defeats your point
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entirely which is what what point does that defeat that the point women i think women are smarter or what
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patriarchy and women are barred from higher education college doesn't mean you're smart
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i mean i agree with you i'm just saying that i believe that if the world had turned out differently
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and women were in power we would be a lot better off okay question for you that's what i mean when i
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say miss and question for you on that um if if i were to say just to be clear i this is not my position
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necessarily but if i were to say the following would you think it would be sexist i think that the
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world is better because men do have more power in it yes i think that's sexist so how is your position
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not sexist if you were to say i think the world would be better if women were in charge it is okay so
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you're sexist she said she's messing misogyny is the opposite of misandry feminism is in the middle
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okay so you hate misandry but okay misogyny isn't i hate all women it's i believe that men are better
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than women and deserve more power feminism is i think everyone should be equal and misandry is i think
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women deserve more power i believe that women would do better in positions of power than men and that is
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my belief system okay but you would also wouldn't you fight against men making the positive claim
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that men are if men are in positions of power that they actually think that the world would be a
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better place if more men are in positions of power yeah what about it well you would object to that
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statement right they'd object to mine what but shouldn't you object to your own sexist rhetoric no
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so it's okay just to be clear you're against sexism sort of but only if men are sexist towards
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women not if women are sexist towards men you know i truthfully also believe that if women were in power
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sexism would not really be as big of a thing everyone's lives would just be better off and
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that's my again that's my own belief i don't believe that women if women were in power i don't
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believe that women would create a system that is unfair towards men i believe that things would be a lot
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more equal i just think that women would be better off in power i'm trying to explore the logic so you
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would be i assume i do i very ideologically opposed to a man saying that they think that society is
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better or would be better if men well let's say men are currently fully in power uh you would object
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to this sort of statement yeah well men already think that all the time i'm not i'm not sure if that's
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actually the case because you're well that's sort of a male supremacy view but i think a lot of people
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believe in sort of a more complementarian perspective as it relates to gender roles but
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i'm just curious so you think just to be clear you think society would be better if women were in
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charge yeah yeah i do but so then you can't then object i suppose you might disagree but i might
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disagree but i don't object they can say whatever they want to say they can believe whatever they want
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to believe so you're fine but i'll fight them on it and they can fight me on my view i'm fine with
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that i mean they're actually there is some logical consistency there if you're if you're saying you
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would disagree but you'd actually be okay with men saying yeah we should continue the patriarchy because
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i think the patriarchy is better for the world men are allowed to think that yeah and are men also
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allowed to think for example the world would be a worse place if women had predominated in rules of
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power yeah people are allowed to people are allowed to think whatever they want to think
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okay but you would probably categorize it as sexist right sure but you're sexist too yeah
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oh well okay but sexism is bad sexism on a grand scale where women have been like shut down and
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oppressed in multiple ways is a bad thing and i again i believe that if women were in power they would
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not be oppressive towards men it would just be different and again you can never prove me right
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or wrong because we'd have to completely uproot the world and change the way things are that's just what
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i believe mary hide it sorry go ahead i put don't don't worry about it go ahead i was done with my
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sentence can you just repeat the last 10 seconds i got distracted there um i believe that if women were
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in charge there they would not be oppressive towards men it would be different however you
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can't prove me right or wrong and so it's just a belief just like a lot of things are just beliefs
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i'm fine with people arguing with me i'm fine people disagreeing with me that's just my belief system
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okay so sexism bad though yeah okay so why are you engaging in something that's bad because sexism on a
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grand scale where like if we denied men the right to do jobs or to make money or to do different things
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that would be bad however i believe that if women were in power men would not be oppressed in any way
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things would be a lot more equal and women would just do better in positions of mass power that is
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my belief there's no way to prove me right or wrong so you're just gonna have to take it as my word and
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that's just what i believe i'm okay with people disagreeing with me i'm okay with men thinking that
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it's different there's lots of men who think that only men can be in power and you know a woman's just
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gonna bomb someone when they're on their period which is complete bs but that is a big thing that
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a lot of men think i'm allowed to think what i want to think and it's just a belief and there's
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no science behind it i mean there's a little bit of science behind it but i'd have to really do like
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a deep thesis paper on this if i wanted to like really try to prove myself my confusion here is if
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it is your position that sexism is bad and we should move away from sexism how are you going to
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reconcile your own admitted sexism because i don't believe if women were in power they would
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actually oppress the male gender it wouldn't be a sexism thing it's just me saying i think women
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would be better in power the way that men are in power they oppress women in multiple ways i believe
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that if women were in power they would not oppress men people would be equal but women would be more
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in power uh how are women oppressed i don't want to get into this rage bait with you right now
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how how would that be rage bait it's literally you literally just said so many ways that women are
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oppressed okay what ways are women oppressed sexually men have more sexual power if you if you get
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essayed and you go to a judge it's way more likely that a man's going to be let off the hook than a
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a woman wait what men have whoa hold on hold on one at a time please one at a time uh you're saying
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that when it comes to when it comes to prosecutions and somebody being found guilty you're saying women
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are more likely to be found guilty of crimes than men are no i didn't say that's what you just said
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that men are likely to get off the hook for sexual aggression how so as compared to like right now
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trump's trying to like say that diddy shouldn't be in jail did he actually make that claim he tweeted
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that trump sent a tweet about diddy yeah i'm not aware of the tweet maybe but i'm just saying in
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general if in general there's so many stories of women trying to come out about their essay stories
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and getting shut down because you know what were they wearing and different things about men
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there is oppression there and it's if even if it's not the u.s there's mass oppression in oh my
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gosh so many places in the world we're very lucky in the u.s i i know that there we are i am not very
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oppressed as a woman in the u.s you know but there are so many places and we're forgetting that there's
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so many places we're like women aren't even like allowed to sing or speak or go in public without a man
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so everything in the middle east come on like that's terrible yeah that's true and so and so
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yeah it depends on the country and in the u.s we're very lucky to not have to deal with such
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strong oppression however there's still aspects of oppression that we deal with if one woman is
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hurting we're all hurting i have a question different countries we're all women we're all
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here together we're all hurting i have a question for you so you said that in like um
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um feel like countries like scandinavian countries where females are in places of power do you think
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that women are still oppressed in countries like that definitely not as much i mean i'm sure there's
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still some male aggression towards females but i know like in the u.s maternity leave is very like
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subjective however in places like scandinavia i know that they get like paid maternity leave men get
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time off so that they can spend time with the family their hospital like they get cared for
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they have nurses that care for them and give them like spa treatments because they know that birth is
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hard i mean that's just a small example but you know other people are not afforded that because
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okay i'm asking how we've been talking about it
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how are women okay here let's start with something simpler then first can you just uh give me
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a definition of oppression like not getting the same basic rights as other people okay sure so
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what rights do men have that women don't control over their bodies well that's not true women can't
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have abortions anymore women have the right to get abortions not everywhere you know that woman in
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georgia who's like on life support even though she's completely brain dead and the family wants her to be
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killed like be taken away because she's completely brain dead but the hospital will not let them
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take her off of life support because she is pregnant and though so they're using her body
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as like basically like an incubator until the baby is birthed i i can engage with you on the abortion
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thing but is there anything besides abortion you can point to as it relates to uh a right that the man
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has uh women do not in the law no in society you can see it trickling in in just different ways
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but if we're talking about rights typically we are talking about in the law i would say abortion's
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the biggest is there anything else though just not that comes to mind but that's just laws not like
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systematic and social oppression okay so it's okay you don't need to check on it it's fine um
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so on the abortion argument i don't think that this is actually evidence of
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an inequality that exists between between men and women because what we're doing is is doing a
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comparison between men and women what rights do men have that women don't men don't have abortion
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rights so you would have to agree with me but men were able to make abortion rights even though it's
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not their body you're moving away from the actual argument let me make the argument let me make the
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argument so you're saying that women don't have any abortion rights well excuse me you're saying in some
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states women don't have abortion rights because you would you would agree that in other states
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women do have yeah in california we have abortion rights so in those states you would say that there
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is no difference of rights between men and women in the law but socially there is oppression just in
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different ways but as it relates to abortion you would agree that men can't force women to get
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abortions right well by law i guess technically yes by law technically yes they can in some states
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men created the rule that they are not allowed to get abortions but and so that is a man telling
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a woman she's not allowed to get an abortion but men can't force a woman to get an abortion right
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no because it's illegal now even if they want no but a man let's say the woman wants to keep the
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kid and the man doesn't want to have a kid he can't force the woman to get an abortion it depends
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there's no legally no he can't but physically he probably could there's ways sure there could be an
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abusive guy who's like drags her physically to the abortion clinic and is like i'm gonna kill you if
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you don't do it yeah yeah sure that could happen but that has nothing to do with like there is no
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right that would grant a man like an ability to force a woman to get an abortion no okay so wouldn't
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you have to make you would have to agree with me on this that that it would actually create a
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certain level of equality that exists between men and women in order for there to be equality as it
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relates to reproductive rights you would just have to outright ban abortion entirely no yes
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no let me explain it to you men have no reproductive rights so equality would have to dictate that in
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order for there to actually be equality between men and women you would have to walk back women's
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abortion rights for there to be equality but men have the right to impregnate impregnate a dozen women
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at a time and then you're saying those women don't have that's not an argument but okay go ahead and make
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it how is that not an argument as in if a guy gets me pregnant and i don't want to have his or you're
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saying i want to have his child he doesn't want me to have the child right that's the scenario it's not even
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no that's not the scenario he's just saying that in order for abortion rights to be equal men should
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also get a say how about men take birth control he's saying i'm not saying that i'm saying uh
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one no i don't think that that should be the case but two uh men cannot force women to have abortions
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i'm not advocating financial support they can leave the relationship they like they can do it yes
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men and women are allowed to leave relationships cohabitated and then and then the man gets the
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woman pregnant but says i don't want you to have the baby if you don't get an abortion you got to
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get the out of the house how is it her fault that she got pregnant because she had sex literally
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logically doesn't even fall they were in a relationship living together you're talking
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about something completely different the point i'm trying to make here is is you're you're making the
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argument that women are oppressed and that women do not have equal rights to men in the united
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states to which you cite abortion laws or reproductive rights since men have no reproductive rights i would
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say that in order for there to be equal rights to men in the usa between men and women the only means
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by which you can uh arrive at equal rights between men and women would be to walk back abortion rights
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for women i'm not saying that that should be the case what i'm saying is that would have that would be
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how it would have to be for there to actually be equality between men and women if men were like
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seahorses and they could also carry children i would agree with you but they can't so i don't agree with
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you but okay just think about it logically yeah i don't know i am honey if you're not you're putting
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your feelings if you're arguing if i have to carry a baby for nine months and then rip open my vagina to
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give birth to it and a man doesn't even have to be there if he doesn't want to i think i should
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decide if i want to go through but that's not the argument i'm making you're making the argument that
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if we wanted to be a hundred percent equal but what equal is not always fair so you do agree that's not
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equal then so what this is this argument women can't impregnate themselves okay here's the context of
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the conversation the context is it's what rights do men have that women don't so within that context
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men don't have reproductive rights so the fact that in some states women don't have access to abortion
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i don't think that you could say that that should be something women can have they should have access
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to abortions but it's not evidence of men having some sort of advantage or privilege or benefit or
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right that women don't the question is what right does a man do men have that women don't
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as you guys are correct only women can get pregnant but this has nothing to do with a
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comparison of women's rights to men's rights men don't have any rights as it relates to their reproduction
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so your your claim that well abortion rights if i were to go ahead yeah sure okay women don't have
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abortion rights what does that have to do with equal rights between men and women you and i just disagree
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on that and i don't think we're ever going to see eye to eye on abortion rights which a lot of people
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aren't going to see eye to eye on abortion right i'm not having an abortion debate with you i'm having
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a debate with you on men's and women's rights but you thinking that women don't have the right to get
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an abortion by themselves hold on i didn't make that i didn't even make that argument for all you
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know i could be pro-choice but you saying that it wouldn't be equal i think we agree differently on
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that agree differently okay um i could be disagree i could be pro-choice and make the same argument i just
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made and i disagree with that argument so but what is i i'm a little confused here so
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how what specifically do you disagree with the argument about i disagree that in order for
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abortion rights to be equal for men and women abortion should be banned because men don't
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should get an equal say or something okay to clarify i'm not speaking should i'm speaking i
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know hypothetically i'm speaking descriptively so descriptively it is the case that because men
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don't have these i'm not saying that uh men should be able to like get an abortion on behalf like
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that's not what i'm advocating for okay i'm advocating for the that i'm or well i'm actually
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making a counter to your claim that men have rights that women don't okay you would have to
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establish that men have abortion rights to make the claim that in the states where women don't have
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abortion rights men have abortion rights if men don't have abortion rights which they don't in
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any state then how could it ever be the case that women not having abortion rights in a state is
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evidence of men having rights that women don't possess i'm not saying i'm just saying that means
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oppression to me and even a lot of women to a lot of women not having the ability to choose if they
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want an abortion or not is oppression and if you don't think that you don't think that that's your
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opinion my opinion is that it is oppressive to not let a woman make decisions about her own body
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even if a man impregnated her and that is his child i still think the woman has the right to make the
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decision if she wants an abortion or not yeah and so i actually in response to something you said
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before you mentioned how uh you i think you said something along the lines of men don't have bodily
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autonomy when did i say that i think you said something along those lines bodily autonomy
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everyone has bodily autonomy i don't know what you mean by that what you said didn't you can
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somebody rewind the rewind the tape you didn't say something about like men don't have any uh loss of
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bodily autonomy or anything like that oh the right to their bodily autonomy i think that can you repeat
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how you framed it like men don't have a law that like dictates a part of their body the way that women
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do where women could be forced to not have an abortion whereas there is no law that says like
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men aren't allowed to do certain things right how about circumcision or like how about a law that says
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when they turn 13 they all have to get a vasectomy because then they can't get someone pregnant and
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they can get it reversed whenever they want that would be an issue because it hurts their right to their
05:54:23.840
own bodily autonomy however that's not a law the only the only laws that affect bodily autonomy
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happen towards women that's what i can you can you think of any law that or uh can you think of any
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law that relates to the bodily autonomy of men the only thing i can or the taking away of it the only
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thing i can think of would be the draft but i already said that i don't think that should be a thing
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but it is a thing but i already said i don't think it should be just like i don't think women should
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be forced to not get abortions right so like i don't know where you're trying to get at me with
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that but yeah well originally you were making the claim that there's no nothing at least as it relates
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to law that takes away men's bodily autonomy and you you mentioned one i give you i guess some credit
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there for at least saying that forced military conscription would take away men's bodily autonomy
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but like i said i don't think that should be a thing but it is a thing but i it doesn't matter
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what you think it's reality and that's what it is i can give you two others though i'd like to give
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you two other examples uh when it as it relates to bodily autonomy so uh infant boys circumcision
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circumcised that's the parents choice well here's the difference i don't i don't think that should happen
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yes i agree with you i'm well i'm against circumcision but what i would point out to you
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while there aren't any laws for example that force boys to get circumcised you would have to agree that
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there's significant social pressure cultural pressure religious pressure and uh you know even in on the
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healthcare front there's certain uh i would call it propaganda that relates to this yeah where doctors
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are like pediatricians are advocating for the the procedure of circumcision but what i would point
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out though that does sort of relate to thank you for your addition to the conversation i appreciate it
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hold on well i'd like to finish my thoughts so uh there is a law that is sort of related to this so
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the circumcision of uh of baby girls is outlawed yeah so while there isn't a woman it's horrible it's
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female genital mutilation it happens a lot in like um tribes and like somalia and stuff it's very brutal
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and i think it's good that we have laws on the books against female genital mutilation but i think there
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ought to be a corresponding law to prevent circumcision or what i call male genital mutilation sure but there
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isn't so that would indicate to me although again there's no law that says men must be circumcised
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there is a law that prevents it from ever happening to baby girls but society and culture has completely
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accepted this barbaric practice as it relates to baby boys can i say something yep i'm not fully sure
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how circumcision works i've never researched that i'm pretty sure it's like a surgical practice correct
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like the baby boy would go under or would be put under some sort of a medication or something it doesn't
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just happen like right out there in the wild i'm actually not entirely sure i'm not yeah i know they
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do it right when the boy is born and i'm not sure the surgical practice of it but i know that female
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genital mutilation happens when the woman is completely of age and conscious no medical practice is usually
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well it doesn't happen in the u.s yeah but no medical practice is usually used no anesthesia
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no pain meds no nothing the girl is strapped down and just carved up and then stitched up and the
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reason this is also done to the reason it happens is because they want to make sure that the woman is
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a virgin so you can see that she's still stitched up when you marry her circumcision is a religious
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practice that happened a long time ago do i think it's right no do i think i'm gonna circumcise my
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sons no i don't really however go ahead you cannot compare the two fully uh actually i can and here's
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why so for example one of the arguments that they often make there's a social component too as it relates
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to circumcision women's own preferences dictate this like there there is a component of parents being like
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well i live in a society where circumcision is practiced and if my son there's a there's the
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health care component that's kind of bullshit like hygiene whatever uh there's plenty of men in the
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world who are not circumcised who have perfectly good hygiene but there is a social component where
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parents are going to make a determination while everybody else is circumcised is my is my baby boy
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going to fare perhaps worse when it comes to dating or when he becomes an adult when he does become
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uh start dating because of women's genitalia preferences and it seems to me the case there's
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a lot of women especially in countries where men are circumcised women have very strong preferences
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towards circumcised men it's because they didn't have the option of and single moms are almost
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invariably always getting their baby boys uh circumcised in the united states i'll just make the point i've
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never met anyone who cared um i understand that it is a thing and i don't even know what religion
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actually circumcises i've never done research on circumstation or circumcization or whatever sure
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but um do i think it's right i never said that so but i we're talking about we're talking about bodily
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autonomy and i i do actually think the case at least if we're speaking in the us and a lot of western
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countries female general general mutilation and if i'm even willing to grant that like at least
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some of your argument has merit insofar as uh perhaps the reasons they do it are very questionable
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or they do it at a certain age where it's like okay although i would say there's plenty of men who
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didn't get circumcised when they're babies and they get circumcised later on in life circumcised with like
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no pain do they get circumcised with no pain meds no nothing or like i i would like to know how the
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procedure is done i again not a total expert on this i'm almost certain it's not as barbaric
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at adult well in the again in the united states my understanding if you're an adult male and you
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opt to get circumcised there's going to be some level of sedation i assume i don't know if it's
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like localized anesthesia i'm not an expert on adult male circumcisions but i would again point out
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that there are laws on the book that completely completely preclude female genital mutilation so
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that can't be done so that does relate to bodily autonomy then then the other one would be well
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you mentioned the draft so i won't go into that the other one would be uh kind of related to the
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abortion or um the uh getting pregnant or whatever is so we did away with debtors prisons many like
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a long time ago we realized that if you owe the debt if you owed money that you shouldn't have to
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go to prison for it we did away with that uh there can be sort of penalties and ramifications or credit
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score they could they could garnish your wages but you can't be sent to prison if you owe somebody money
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the only way though that this is still actually a thing is through child support and this disproportionately
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impacts men i think 97 of child support payments go from men to women if you uh if you have a kid
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your bodily autonomy can be taken away if you don't pay child support and then in in addition to that
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there's another component besides like prison time or jail for not paying child support you also they
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can essentially in fear of potentially going to prison you're basically can be forced to work when you
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otherwise wouldn't and i would consider that under the purview of taking away somebody's bodily autonomy
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if the court says go to work and work some job that you don't want to do yeah that would kind of be
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taking away your bodily autonomy it's modern day slavery it's a horrible thing it's debts or yeah i guess
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debt slavery i know it's bad i don't i don't support it the but that's the current system system is for
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profit sure yeah but like i could not they put people jump i don't support that and i don't support
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taking away a woman's right to get an abortion so i'm on like both sides and you're acting like i'm
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i'm saying that like all men should have to do all that stuff while women should get all the freebies
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i'm not saying that at all men shouldn't have to deal with that stuff and women shouldn't have to
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deal with our stuff everyone should have the right to their own body do you think men should pay child
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support i mean it it depends if if a mother decides to give up the child then no but no she chooses to
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keep it unilaterally let's say um the man says i don't want it the woman says i do want it no i
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don't think the man should have to pay child support you do recognize though that under the current
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system every single state despite the the man's wishes say he doesn't want the child in each instance
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the woman can force him through the state to pay child support and if he doesn't he ends up in jail
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and i don't think that's if he didn't want to have a child why did he uh ejaculate inside her
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that's not that's not because people get pregnant by accident people get pregnant by accident all the
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time pull out if if he gets her pregnant and she says actually i want to keep it and he says no i
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really don't want to keep it i don't have the money for that i don't have the time for that i don't
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want to be a part of this anymore i'm dumping you and she decides to keep it on her own she's
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responsible for that child he should not have to pay child support it's not the case though
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we can talk about what should be sad like i don't know why i don't like do you want me to like
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become the president and change things like that would be a difficult thing for me to do all i can
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do is advocate for what i believe in i mean and i'm doing that right now i don't think men should
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have to pay child support if they make it clear before the woman gives birth i do not want this child
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if he doesn't know about the child any of that he should not be forced to pay child support
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well i mean i i suppose i would extend and maybe i don't know if this is an olive branch to you
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maren uh i don't know if you've seen how the there's this article recently about how the democrats
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aren't able to reach uh men i don't know if you heard about that they're struggling to capture male
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voters the democratic part are you a democrat i don't really i'm kind of unlabeled well did you vote
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for kamala yeah i voted for kamala um although but like i'm not against republicans i'm purely against
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donald trump okay that's fair enough um i think that and you're also a pro-choice right yes you're
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okay you're you're in favor of abortion you know what could actually be a compelling argument to get
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a bit more men to to be pro-choice but also to lean a bit more uh left or at least more
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democrat shouldn't have to pay child support i think if you make the if you make the argument
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that attached to securing abortion rights for women you were to say in instances where men didn't
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want to have children they could do something called legal paternal surrender where they say i'm
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relinquishing all paternal rights to the child and in so doing i'm not financially or parentally
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obligated to the child in any way now this would be sort of like then the government has to step in
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which house like will help with sure i guess stamps and all that i guess that means we're all paying for
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it the taxpayers are paying for that baby sure but i think anyways my position if we're talking about
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what is in any state where women do have abortion rights i think men should have a corresponding right
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to not have any sort of parental responsibility which includes child support yeah one of my friends
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personally had a baby with a random girl and he was he went to court he went to find for this child
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he wanted that child he helped her he has a child now so there are men who want to take care of their
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kids even good men out there that want to help out no but he's just saying like like imagine you're a
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man and you get someone well he did it he but imagine if he said that's part of him that's still his
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child that's still his dna that's still a part of him why would you not want to take care of something
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that is you a part of that's why women get abortions because they're not ready to have a child
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they don't want to have the child they don't feel physically or emotionally or um financially ready to
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have a child if a man doesn't feel that way and the woman wants to keep it the man should be able
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to not have to take care of the child even if the woman wants him to or not that's like trapping him
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you should be considering all those things before even having sex though
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but also i just don't think it's right to just have the men relinquish their rights so easily what
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if the dad just wants to be a that be that he just simply wants to escape all the responsibility
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after impregnating the woman when the woman can have a choice to not let that into the life
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when he had chose to have sex with this woman he should have considered there's a possibility of
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pregnancy and well but are you are you pro-choice or pro-life i think i'm pro-choice okay but hold on
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but the thing you're gonna have to contend with is people who are pro-life are going to make those same
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exact arguments towards women what the moment of conception but the thing is there but why okay
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but so hold on to be consistent though if you're saying well hold on like let me frame it like this
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the man let's say the man doesn't want to he's not ready to be a father he's not financially ready
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or here let me change it the woman is not financially ready to be a mother
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would you say that under those circumstances it's okay for her to have an abortion
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i mean if she i think this goes to the autonomy of a body so it's women's choice whether they want
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to keep the child or not but yeah but i'm just asking about the reasons why so you might even
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say whatever reason maybe there's no reason she just wants to get an abortion you'd be fine with it
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right um yeah i think it would be fine but of course uh maybe there's some internal discussion
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between the men and women but okay so you would agree though that the woman who wanted to get an
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abortion for the following two reasons she's not ready to be a mother and she's not financially ready
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yeah that's very plausible that's good reasons yes okay but so then why are you saying if the if
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men make this similar argument i'm not financially ready i don't want to be a father why do you then say
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tough luck you should have kept it in your pants you shouldn't have done that why don't you apply
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that same uh that that same like what i said that men should be allowed to have an out just like a
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woman does with an abortion well it's interesting when it comes to women like when it comes to men's
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responsibility you guys are basically like bronze age pro-lifers you should have kept it in your pants
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you shouldn't have had sex not you but that's the argument these two are making they're saying
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they're saying oh well you should have thought of that before you had sex why can't i use that
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argument for women who want to get abortions but why is it also fair for women who want to keep the
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child the women could also be financially unstable and why is it her sole responsibility to raise a
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child because when you go through pregnancy you develop this natural attachment to the children
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so some women they may feel like it's homicide to um to get an abortion so i think like the men
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they could simply use as an excuse um attributing it to their financial distress to not pay for child
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support and i think this will create a lot of legal loopholes for guys to just not take on the
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responsibility they should and but i think look ultimately i don't know if you're going to share this
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view uh if from the from the pro-life perspective uh they would consider this murder if you're getting
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an abortion they consider it murder right so why are women allowed to murder their children but
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it's not okay for men to abandon their children i mean this is murder and abandonment are two different
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things like what's worse of course murder is taking away someone's like life when does life
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begin oh my god i mean that's uh that depends on how it is defined medically uh but i guess
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life begins when you breathe when i guess when the heartbeat life begins when the heartbeat is detected
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okay when's that uh i mean i have never gone through a pregnancy but i guess it depends on the
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trimester you have to ask someone who has been a mom you think life begins when the baby's out no once
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it's out so you'd be you're you're fine with abortions up until birth no but i thought but if
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it's not a life why can't you abort the that's not what i mean but that's you said that's when life
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begins the that literally i think it's at 12 weeks is when the cutoff is but some states have lowered
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that to six weeks which a lot of women don't even know they're pregnant at six weeks sometimes
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um obviously in all states it's illegal to get rid of the baby after a certain amount of time because
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it's like a full formed child and i think that that is accurate i think that should stay a rule you know
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if it's if you're in your second third trimester and you're trying to get rid of the child that is
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murder however i also agree with you like if a woman wants to keep it and the man says i'm not ready
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the man should be able to not be involved in the child's life and should not have to pay child support
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um but also a woman should be able to get an abortion app before a certain time if they feel
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the need to but i guess i'm arguing yeah the whole like they're pro-choice but also men should still be
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responsible that's where i'm i just think it's cruel on the woman to take on the um child care
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responsibility after the child is born like the men they can probably just come up with excuses of
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not being financially able to take care of the child but then they will still be able to
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afford like video games like well uh drinks at the bars wait my issue with that statement is if a
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man went to the woman right when the baby was detected right like when the woman could still
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get an abortion and express to the woman i cannot be the father of this child i don't want this child
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i don't want to be involved and the woman still decides to go through with it she is taking on that
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responsibility and it should not be put all on the man at that point if the man says i'll do it with
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you if you do it and then takes that away when the child's like a year old then it makes sense to like
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go to court and say you need to help me because you said that you would however if he expresses in
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the beginning i do not want this child then it is then the woman's responsibility to take care of the
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child if she decides to have it but i do think she should be able to decide to have it or not
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yeah but also i think like from a morality standpoint it's just really sad to see a man giving up willing
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to give up on his child not willing to establish any sort of connection but on a legal level if you
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want women's to have the right to have an abortion you should also allow men to have the right to walk
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away pasty george thank you george donated two hundred dollars thank you man appreciate it
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male infant circumcision in north america is done without anesthesia and a clamp tool is used to
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secure foreskin yeah that's horrible it is done when the baby is awake and aware it is it is a brutal
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and barbaric practice and so it shouldn't exist anymore i don't like go talk to your local
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government about that i'm not the one uh moving off of abortion maryn again you said you're a
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misandrist why how what is misandry can i not answer this again i've answered this like seven times
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right can like other people speak no um but uh oh okay she she she needs to uh go to a bathroom break
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here uh here we're gonna get into uh lynn you said that a man dating a transgender woman is straight
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why is that um yeah because i think uh transgender women psychologically they believe they are women so
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and uh their id also identifies them as female so of course it's it's not like homosexual
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for men to date a uh transgender woman wait you said their id says that they're they you think people
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do you think people can change their sex yeah i think people who have gone through uh transgender
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surgeries they are able to change their gender on their vacations would you okay um so you i guess you
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can change i well for the sake of argument i'll just go ahead and grant that you can change your gender
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but i don't think you can change your sex um but also sex is identity but what's even the difference
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between like sex and gender i i thought they are interrelated well i think so too yeah and i don't
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but for the sake of argument there's like gender identity and then there's sex yeah so so sex relates
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to your biology your chromosomes yeah so if they're transgender that means they have gone through
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the procedures so biologically not all not all transgender people have their
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stuff yeah but i would say like in my answer i referred most to people have gone through the procedures
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so so you don't think uh xx chromosomes matter i mean the thing is a man who has decided to
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um go through the procedures so that means uh psychologically though a man before they
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uh go through the procedure they are men and then after the procedure and even actually before they
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decided to take the procedure they still um they probably like psychologically identify themselves as
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women already so that's why they decided to go through the procedure and to become a woman legally so i
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feel like it would be an ordeal to to make them still like men after they have gone through all
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the procedures to like change their identity to feel more alive for becoming like who they're more
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affiliated with i still believe that but i do believe if uh a man is attracted to a trans woman i
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still think that's a little bit you think that's that's homosexual i i i think it has to do with if she
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passes as in like i've been at a table with a trans woman who i 1000 thought was a real woman like
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like so many friends like that her work was so good everything was so good and there's straight women
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that with the bbls and the surgeries look like trans women okay so i i'm i'm not finished so if somebody
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if a man finds a person identifying as a woman very attractive and wants to date them i don't
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necessarily think that that makes the man gay until they get deeper into the conversation and
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if he's turned on by the fact that she still has a dick between her legs and likes to put it and is
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so excited to put it in her butt then yeah it is kind of like you'd potentially rather be with a man
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but you're happy because this man is feminine and i think once they're fully transitioned through the
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surgery then it goes back to if if they really pass inspection and 100 look and feel like a woman
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then the men who want to say that they're attracted to femininity and wouldn't you rather say that
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they're attracted to the feminine yeah i would agree with that because you said that they don't care if
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they see a penis i didn't say they don't care you said if they have a bbl and they get the fake
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i'm saying there are there are heterosexual women who get surgeries and it actually makes them look more
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trans so the american beauty standard of what women should look like or what what america finds hot
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has transitioned into trans being attractive like the woman who was just sitting here had eyebrows
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that looked like a drag queen like she could have passed as trans i'm sorry it was fake hair fake
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surgery and her makeup was like a drag queen so i think that there are trans people as a feminine
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woman you should have had that smoke for her when she was here we weren't taught nobody was talking to
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her like we were just talking about her i think really depends on the phase of the transition
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are we talking about wait question so a guy sucking a woman's dick is that women don't have dicks
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yeah i'm referring to people but but trans can trans women hold on can trans women have penises yes
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but that makes them gay i'm not i'm agreeing with if a man is attracted to a penis that means that he
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yeah but also sometimes they're just attracted by the femininity um because if you i know trans
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women and they tell me they guys love the fact that she has a one she they look for that all i'll say
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it's gonna be a hard sell a lot of trans women so if i see a guy but that's sucking on a penis yeah but
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i'm not talking about like a woman who has not finished the transition i'm talking about a woman who
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looks feminine who dresses feminine who feels is there a penis is there a penis probably probably
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not so she's that's not yeah that's not pussy probably that question should have been defined
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more narrowly how do you define transgender all right uh here let me blast through these because
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i want to try to get this hopefully wrapped up on the sooner side really quick if you guys can be
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give me quick rapid-fire answers what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future
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husband i don't care me a lot like probably two three million at least a year a year yeah
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she's got high standards i guess reach for the stars girl 239 is what's my bugatti so
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okay uh what about you just similar to my income you said 220 000 plus i told him yeah but it could go
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lower uh i would just i just don't like to i just don't like any like big discrepancy okay what about
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you there's a lot of variables it depends on for me uh bare minimum where where do we live you know
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like southern california okay minimum 500 000 a year 500 000 a year what i mean i i've made 150 000 a year
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and had nothing left over at the end of it well yeah it's it depends on assets it depends what their
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other like somebody doesn't have to be high income rich if they have all their assets paid off and
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like i think there's a lot of variables that go into play well you said you've been single for
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she's settling for jake gyllenhaal she wants a guy who makes 500 000 minimum 500 000 a year
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you gotta lower your sorry i didn't want to settle for the you gotta settle the losers i've
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been proposed to three times i've had people try to you know get me to do green card marriages for
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money wait you got money doesn't you money doesn't win me over you said you haven't had a relationship
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your entire adult life how did you get three proposals that were legitimate men fall in love
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with me it doesn't mean they were my public boyfriend doesn't mean i ever introduced them to
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my family okay uh what about you minimum yearly income 60k 60k all right she wants five
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500 000 sure because i said i don't care um obviously just i got enough for them hey she's
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talking be quiet please go ahead just enough for them to live on their own even if it's a shitty one
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bedroom apartment even if it's a studio just enough for them to live on their own and then if i have an
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income we can combine ours that's it how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would
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date i'm six foot i would date any man six foot or over what about you because i don't want to date
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someone shorter than me i've dated guys that were five six i've dated i'm five eight okay what about
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you i'm five four so probably five ten what about you i like tall men but i don't discriminate height
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my boyfriend was five three okay what about you five seven and five four all right would you rather
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cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike um usually men who hike are pretty nice so
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probably i don't care however bears are also awesome to see so i'd say bear okay you did say
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bear in the questionnaire here what about you i did say bear bear man okay i would freeze if i see a
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bear what about you man man okay and then for you two why why do you pick bear why don't you pick man
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um well first i said like most men i don't really hike alone so i don't really care um but i know what
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what to do if i see a bear brown lay down get on the ground black attack um white say goodnight
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because you're about to die so i think bears are cool i've seen lots of bears in my hiking adventures
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and they never bother me however you know on the off chance that a man is hiking that has bad intentions
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i mean usually the men who hike don't have bad intentions so like i don't really care but bears are
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awesome so i pick bear when do you think you would have a better chance against a man than a bear
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um i've never had a bear even like really look me in the eye i've been like right next to them they
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really don't want to like bother you unless you like try to like attack it they're also like 500
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pounds and they have really sharp what did you hear what i just said
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bears don't bother you unless you bother they don't bother you so you know a bear attack before
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well depends what that person is doing i know i've seen bear attacks where they're like filming
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the bear and trying to get close to the bear or trying to like touch a cub of the bear and a bear
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might attack but in a normal basis if you're on a hike and you see a bear like you're probably
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definitely gonna be fine however men could do other things and you know i'm not saying that every man on
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a hike is gonna like shoot and kill me or kidnap me however why do you pick bear i could tame a bear
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okay there's not a component of like men you think men are more dangerous
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there was a bear in poland that was um in war like they trained a bear to be a soldier so like
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men are not trainable bears are trainable i'm sorry that is possibly the most retarded thing i've
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heard on this podcast there was a bear in an in world war ii that you realize that there's like
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been millions upon millions of male soldiers who yeah but they trained a bear to be a soldier so
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like that that's freaking cool that was one bear though one bear it was a question she gave you an
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honest answer she said men are not trainable dubious uh bears are trainable okay
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i've seen bears where i'd hike i'm not trying to be mean but like some of the things you say are a
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little a little ridiculous um and maryn is there a thing a component here at least as to you picking
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the bear like you're like okay well a bear could kill me a man could kill me a man could also like
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torture me essay this sort of thing well that is true but like i said honestly on a hike like i'm
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usually not worried about that especially because i don't really hike alone so i don't really care if
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it's a man or a bear i would say hi to both i guess i'm um but i'd rather see a bear because
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bears are cool i can ask you a question do you think do you think if women pick bear over man
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do you think they're sexist no you don't think it's sexist to pick a bear over man you know the
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whole question is like when i hear the question and i see women answering and saying like definitely
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the bear they're not talking and they're not thinking about a normal man that you cross on
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the street like if i saw you while hiking i wouldn't sprint the other way and act dead and
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be scared however if you're asking if would i rather come across a convicted felon rapist
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sorry sorry okay um essayist scary man who's killed someone or something or a bear i'd pick
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the bear and i think a lot of women who hear that question and answer bear are thinking about like
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would i rather see a bear or an aggressive scary man because not obviously not every man who hikes is
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gonna be scary however would i rather see a scary aggressive man on a hike or a bear definitely a bear
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a random man i mean i would still pick bear because i like bears but i wouldn't be scared
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of a random man on a hike okay so but again the question is though is it sexist for women to pick
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bear over man let me ask you a question would it be racist to pick let's say uh i guess you're asking
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you could you'd be asking a white person this uh would you rather come across a bear or a black person
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bear i like bears you'd you'd rather come across a bear than a while hiking black person is it a
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woman or a man hold on when you said bear or man i didn't automatically think of a white man i just
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thought of any man right but so i'm just asking um would okay would you rather come come across a
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bear or a black person i again i don't care but i like bears i would like to see a bear so bear
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but like i said i wouldn't see a black woman or man or whatever on the trail and run and scream and
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hide i would be scared of the white man instead of a black man apparently i'd be scared of the white
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bear so i'd pick a black man over a white bear well over a white bear yeah well you're right so you
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have to give a race to the bear if you're going to give a race to the guy i guess look the the
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reason i asked brown or white bear so my position would be though my position would be we need to
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if somebody picked bear over black person i think that this would point towards racism but i picked
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bear over white man also that would also point towards either sexism but i said black person not
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black man okay well but what gender is the person are you scared of black people oh my god are you
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actually how did you come to that conclusion um that's no i'm not as in i'm not scared no i'm not
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scared of black people it's a hypothetical what i'm trying to say is would i be an asian man would
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i be scared of an asian man why spanish no but what that's a weird analogy well then you would have
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to say that i grew up in the hood i'm not scared of nobody no one you know no one's trying to hurt
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you okay what i'm trying to point to is that there seems to be some level of acceptance of women picking
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bear over man but i think if it was the case that we change the question like i just did uh to say well
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would you pick a black person over a bear and if people started picking the bear over black people
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they'd probably point to this being racist and so i then think if that is racist if that is racist
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then surely it must be sexist to pick bear over man okay what i just said though like in my opinion
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well yeah you want to hang out with a bear no no no but in my opinion when you ask women man or
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bear they're not thinking about a normal man on the side of the street they're thinking about
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the worst case scenario of a man that could hurt them okay sure but like and like the
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majority of a bear could hurt you but the vast majority of men they're not violent they would
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never do they would never like victimize you in any way however if you're asking man or bear
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and you're thinking bear is scary and could kill me but if you want to point towards a man a man could
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also kill me and if i would rather run across a bear than a murderous scary kidnapper man however
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i know that a normal man hiking isn't out to get me and i think a lot of women also know that
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it's just the way the questions phrase make them want to pick bear because they're thinking of the
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worst type of man got it okay moving things on don't want to linger too long just so we can get things
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moving uh you you do say here marin women can't be sexist towards men or you agree with the statement
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rather you agree with the statement that women can't be sexist towards men i view that as the
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same statement of white people white people or black people can't be racist towards white people
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systematically i mean it's almost impossible because of the way that the system has been set up so you
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think racism has to include a component of like systemic power well systemically it's a like a lot
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it's not really it doesn't really happen i mean i'm sure it happens a tiny bit but like low iq what
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being racist is low iq no i'm just saying like i don't think
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system system systemically black people can be racist towards white people i don't think
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systemically women can be sexist towards men because men have the power and men make the decisions
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right now so even if even if a woman on the street is sexist towards a man a little bit
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like it can happen on a tiny level but systemically like no can men experience systemic sexism
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it would take a lot in modeling it would take a lot i mean i don't see it happening men get sex
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i mean all the time we already discussed this it just even goes back to circumcision it goes back to
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forced military conscription it goes back to uh disproportionality men made all those things
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is it sexist if a man did it to another can you speak into the mic please you're it's come on um
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i would say the government so the government is a men does not equal government men are not
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the government the government is a separate entity from men you would agree that there are
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women in the government though what does that matter who wrote whose signatures are on the
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independence are there any women tell me how would that matter tell me which men are responsible
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first off men are not a hive mind uh we were left out of the i'm not explain how i'm benefiting from
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the system as a man by existing you get so much privilege what privilege do i have being here
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what do you having you're here too what i women can have the podcast too women have podcasts as a white
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man what does his race have to do black people have black men have podcasts too
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and they're really good at it in fact the most popular live streamers in the kai sanat i show speed
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two very young black men you had the privilege to drop out of college and that is a privilege
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how is that a privilege to because it meant you saw a life plan for yourself that didn't
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involve needing an education or needing any kind of certification or how would dropping out of
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college be evidence of privilege because it means you could afford to drop out do you think wait wait
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wait so so when men drop out of high school is that privilege high school and college are two totally
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different things you're saying both education flunking out and dropping out are two different things
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how would it be privilege to drop out of high school or college i it's almost like a sense of
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entitlement saying like you know what this was fun but i don't need the education i'm going to go do my
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own thing over here and figure out how to work the system in my favor and maybe it was your parents
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that helped you out maybe you're making a lot of assumptions that you have an assumption this entire
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thing we're assuming we're we're theorizing talking about no not really you are you're making an
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assumption about my live life to life experiences you're asking what your privilege is and base
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you've told told us very little about yourself okay one thing you said was you dropped out of
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college why did you feel why did you not feel the need to finish what if it was the case with the
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statistics you want an answer sure go ahead yeah what if it was the case that because of my gender
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i was struggling in college and that's why i dropped out i don't believe you oh she doesn't but
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that's your experience well just to be clear that's not actually the case but what if it was the case
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how would that be privilege if i dropped out or what if i dropped out because you didn't feel like
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people were being nice to you what what if i try being i'm saying i mean like there there's a a
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number of situations where people are not going to be nice to you it doesn't mean you give up it
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doesn't mean you check out i can argue with maren who's at least attempting to make logical arguments i'm
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sorry i can't i just cannot make like i can't argue why did you drop out of college i'm curious
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because of my male privilege that's why i dropped you you already said that's not because i dropped
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out because of my male privilege that's why um i'm sorry i'm just not going to entertain this argument
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with you because it doesn't make it it's incomprehensible so there's a cheat sheet of what
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your answers are and we're all supposed to go around and guess or explain to you what your privilege
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is as a white man in this country but yeah tell me the first thing somebody says you're saying no
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that's not true it's i don't think it's our observation let me ask you this what would be i
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guess more of a privilege having completed college or having dropped out of college
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i think both are both are a privilege what would be what would have better life outcomes for the
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average person dropping out of college or completing college honestly i think dropping
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out because being uh the the higher education system in america which like i have not paid back
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my student loans uh my college got shut down by a for-profit corporation who deemed it unprofitable
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and it had a 70 year reputation as the best art school in the country so tell like logic doesn't
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always play and it's greed and it's men have the ability to do more okay i'll stop sorry i'm just
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i mean you're clearly irritated so i'm just not hearing an argument the points to irritate us not
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to irritate you right i just don't know i personally think it's situational whether you want to stay in
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college or drop out of college because if you really don't think you're the studying material and
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you can choose to become like a blue collar worker because he's in real life i'm yeah i'm just saying
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like not talking about brian specifically but yeah some plumbers and handymen they do make more money
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but of course if you want to go on to like more complex professions like there are kids who sell
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sneakers online that make more money yeah then you need to complete the degree so it depends on your
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personal choice guys what are we talking about right now the keyword is privilege how is it a privilege to
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drop out of college felicity's right it's it's kind of incoherent so i'm just gonna move it on
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really quick going back to this you said people of color can't be racist towards white people women
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can't be sexist towards men are you talking systemically or would you agree on an individual
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level a black person could be racist towards a white person on an individual level that can happen
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systemically not really not really let me ask you a question if barack obama when he was president
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refused to hire a white janitor would that be systemically uh and not just a singular janitor
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but all the janitors that worked for the white house uh would that be racist i don't think so no
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so just to be clear at the time he was the most powerful man in the united states the most powerful
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man in the world he was the leader and the boss and the president of the executive branch of the united
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states government the executive branch of the united states government being a system so how would
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it not be systemically sexist if barack obama had like a policy to not hire white janitors if he made
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that a policy for the entire u.s and said no one's allowed to hire white janitors federal all federal
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uh institutions could not hire white janitors then yeah that would be i guess racist systemically racist
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yeah okay except for that didn't happen and that hasn't happened so i'm just testing the logic here
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women can't be sexist towards men i assume it would be the same thing like if uh kamala harris she won
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the presidency and she refused to hire male janitors you would have to agree that systemically that this
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would be sexist towards men i guess for both honestly it depends on i mean if she said no one in the
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whole u.s is allowed to hire male janitors or whatever then yeah that would be wrong however if she
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made the executive decision for just the white house only to hire women if she said like that's
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just my choice then no if she said it's because i hate men then that would be sexist sure moving on
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you said women or you agree with the statement women are the primary victims of war not men although
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it seems like you did like kind of a squiggly line so yeah i said i don't really know um i know a lot
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of women and children suffer at the hands of war when are they the primary victims though i think
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everyone's a victim no i agree with you that men and women do suffer in war uh and they are victims
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in war i don't know if they're the primary victims i put a squiggle there because i don't know how to
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answer that question so maybe move on well i'll just ask one clarifying question but i don't intend
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to linger too long on this question um knowing that men are just are almost uh the majority of all
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uh both historical and modern casualties of war so deaths injuries etc like the ones fighting because
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they're the ones fighting yeah you would have to well i would say men are the primary victims if
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they're the ones fighting can you tilt your mic down a bit but go ahead if they're the ones fighting
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can you call them a victim or can you i mean if they were drafted against their will then that's
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victimization but if they chose to be there and they die in the battlefield or whatever but they
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chose to be there then they put themselves in that position whereas the women and children who weren't
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who didn't like even the women who chose to go to war like they are not a victim because they chose to
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do that but the people like even the men who didn't get drafted or the men who didn't go to war
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the people the normal civilization of that place are the i would say are the primary victims of war
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because the soldiers the people that are fighting like i mean if they signed up to be there they knew
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what they were getting themselves into that's different from the people who got drafted they can
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still be considered victims however uh well you can think differently that's just my opinion i would
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agree so here's where i would agree i would say that if you're volunteering to be be a soldier
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you are assuming some level of risk right yeah there's an assumption of risk however you know
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if you ultimately end up suffering and dying in said war which you are voluntarily taking on said risk
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i still think you're a victim um and but that you'd also have to consider that oftentimes in war
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there are men who are forced through conscription i just said like those people are still but those
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people who are conscripted are exclusively men so even if i were to grant that okay well of the
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volunteer force these people aren't victims there are men who are drafted women are not then you would
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still have to say well at least of the men who are drafted and it's just men almost always those men
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are the primary victims of war what do you mean by what do you mean by primary though the first like the
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most victimized i don't know i mean it depends on the other countries war tactics okay let me ask you this
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i'll give you i guess it depends are they attacking the soldiers or are they bombing cities and towns
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you know how about this um uh pregnancy when women are pregnant you would agree that they go through
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there's some deal of suffering like it's uncomfortable uh there's pain there's uh morning sickness it's it's
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uh there is some degree of suffering as it relates to pregnancy especially the actual giving birth component
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where there's physical pain yeah uh labor it is a painful experience for women yeah you would agree
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that as it relates to the suffering that women experience during pregnancy and giving birth they
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are the primary sufferers of that pain right like for example if i'm if i'm with my wife and she's giving
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birth and she's holding my hand and she squeeze it really hard during her while she's you know pushing
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out the baby that hurt my hand really bad but i would never say that well even though i also felt
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pain when she was giving birth i would never argue that i'm the primary uh i don't know victim isn't
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i was about to say i don't primary suffer i wouldn't i wouldn't categorize it as victimhood but suffer the
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degree of suffering i would never say that i'm suffering more and it's also man it's hard to see your wife
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you know in physical pain and dealing with the pains and discomforts of pregnancy but i would never say
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that i am the primary sufferer of pregnancy i would say she's the primary sufferer of pregnancy
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okay so when it comes to warfare there's wives daughters mothers they lose their sons they're going to
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suffer uh then there's civilians who also are going to suffer but the sheer number as it relates to
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military casualties most casualties are related uh there are civilian deaths often in conflict
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but the majority of casualties relate to these soldiers which are predominantly men if that war
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that you're referencing if a war specifically only causes mass casualties to the soldiers and not to the
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the people who live in that country then yeah men are the victims in that primary victims okay
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but if the war affects like in gaza right now the war affected that entire country i would say
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everyone's a victim not just women not just men i'm not saying that there was a primary victim
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ukraine also i would say almost everyone has been victimized i know that they're who's victimized more
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right the men or the women that's hard i don't i'm not fully versed on that but i guess i don't
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really know are they all drafted in ukraine just the men are drafted and they are they are being
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drafted they literally abduct men then i would say they abduct the men i would say the men in that
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situation right now are being primarily victimized to be forced to commit war violence final thing on
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this then we're moving on to the next topic um and i would just point out at least as it relates to
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ukraine so all the men and there was a law that was passed between the ages of 18 and 65 it might
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somebody might be like no it was 60 brian uh between the ages of 18 to 60 or 65 by law martial law
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were forced to remain in the country women on the other hand could flee so you know that is wrong
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i think that's wrong but it is the case okay oftentimes in war women are able to escape they're
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able to flee the country in ukraine's case men are dying in trenches getting ptsd dying by the
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thousands tens of thousands and women there's a lot of ukrainian women who are clubbing in stockholm
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they're clubbing in the uk they're clubbing in spain they're clubbing in france they're clubbing in
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poland they're clubbing they're in miami we had a ukrainian woman on the show a while ago
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she escaped the war she left and she's she's fucking dudes in the club in miami okay if we're
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talking about ukrainian war men are the primary victims yeah there you go it's just interesting
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this conversation we were talking about privilege earlier like we were talking about privilege earlier
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it's just interesting like there's there's all these conversations of historical men were more
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privileged blah blah blah yeah i don't know i'm really the only issue with that argument like i
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understand that it's very it's so horrible that men have to be drafted like that however
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men did create that specific system so that's the only that doesn't matter but it does majority of men
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are not a part of the government but it does and have no more say in governments excuse me governance
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than women okay and what if men made women drafted by the way women i don't think anyone should get
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drafted why are you acting like i'm pro draft i as a man have no more say in how military conscription
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selective service is run than does any woman i have no i i have no women are the majority of of voters
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okay so i could just say women continue to uphold the status quo because women are the majority of
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voters in this country i did just say it and it's true it's true there are more women who vote than
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men so talk to the men tell them to vote okay um they could get up and vote and vote for you people
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too we have a chat here from pasty george pasty george donated two hundred dollars
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chef or wtf are you talking about if brian had white privilege he would have been in a prestigious
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private school and had a high-paying position in a company or firm after graduation
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he didn't actually say white privilege he was just asking what privileges as a man does he have
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and i'm entitled to believe what i want i think that it's a privilege to have your parents help
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it's a privilege to not go hungry it's like a privilege to have nice designer clothes like it's a
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it's a privilege to be american so you were born in america it's a privilege did i get the same one yes
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right i agree well i believe that when it comes to privilege you have to look at the individual
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as in who wasted money on you going to college was it you or your parents or did you get a scholarship
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i mean i went to the city college so it was so it's like a small it's like a small investment
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not a big loss uh yeah and i'm pretty sure i was working at the time so i think my parents helped
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out with some of it but i paid for like textbooks and some of the term there you go congratulations
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people don't have parents to pay for stuff you do not understand people are poor there's okay but you're
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you guys are trying to do this application of brian you're a white man and you have all this
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privilege there's a lot of people you asked us but i believe in looking at privilege as the totality
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of somebody's circumstances so and we don't know the totality of your circumstances well yes i would
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agree sure i would agree if your parents are doing well and they can assist you with college
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sure that's a privilege having both parents all of us currently living or well all of us currently being
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in santa barbara the highest cost living of city in the united states okay be quiet don't okay don't
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okay hold on yeah we're we're in santa barbara county um being god damn why being born here is one of the
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most beautiful places totally irrelevant shit that's made it fucking impossible to keep a train of
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fucking thought like oh i'm sandbar okay so us being here in oh my god bro or we can just move on to
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the next topic yeah i'm just oh my god bro us being in california makes us all really privileged
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very true yes correct like we everybody here everybody here we're we're probably like one
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having the time to even be here being able to have this conversation that's a privilege yeah but y'all y'all
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want to make it like oh men you have like orders of magnitude and leaps and bounds greater privilege
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than women or what like that's just absurd on its face we're not saying we don't have privilege i
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didn't hear any of us say that today well i mean going to the next thing men are more privileged in
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society than women to which marin you agree natalia you agree uh lynn you agree uh kaylin you didn't
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agree with that but uh explain to me let's start with lynn uh how are men more privileged in society
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than women did i circle that answer you did but maybe you accidentally circled it i would say it
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really depends on which aspect but like i said okay i think uh what i was thinking is for a woman that
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is very ambitious and career driven unfortunately they have to make these trade-offs um in their career
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when it comes to child caring responsibilities and um and pregnancy for example i personally consider
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myself very motivated but but i know that at one point in my life i would need to prioritize my
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family so that means i will have to put my career on hold but men don't necessarily have this problem
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because they are the main like bread earners so i think in this way men are more more privileged than women
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because wait can you just repeat that back yeah so um what i was thinking is mainly focused on the
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career perspective so for women who are very motivated and career driven they have to give up on their
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promotion opportunities and further advancement opportunities because later on they will need to
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take on the child caring responsibilities and instead the men they normally take on like less
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responsible household responsibilities so they don't really have this concern of having like a family
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will really hurt their career prospect so for example myself i don't have a child right now but that's
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definitely on my agenda for the future so even though now i'm feeling very molded i want to do well in
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my career but i know at one point i will need to make this trade-off so i think um from this perspective
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i think it makes the men like more privileged because they have the freedom to kind of like
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choose um what they want well my my simple counter argument to be to this would be you mentioned
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choice men having choice i actually don't think it's the case that men have more choice as it relates to
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this and this is how as women you can find a guy who's willing to fully provide for you and you can have the
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choice to stay at home and take care of the kids granted that you find a man who's capable of doing
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that the vast majority of men don't have this sort of uh benefit or privilege to be able to like go out
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into the dating marketplace and be like i want to be uh i want to be a stay-at-home dad most women are
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not going to be okay with that sort of dynamic you yourself would not be okay with that with that sort of
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dynamic but i'm sure you could find a guy who would be willing to say he's a high earner you
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could probably find you're an attractive woman you seem well put together i don't doubt that you'd be
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able to find a man who is a high income earner who would marry you and say you don't have to work if
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you don't want to you can stay home and take care of the kids i think that's a greater privilege
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then men who are the vast majority of men are when it comes to relationships will be
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forced to be providers in some capacity but financial security is not the only thing i'm
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looking for in the relationship because there are so many other factors that are more important
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but what i'm saying is i would argue cannot bear the child as a woman like okay maybe some men can
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afford a surrogate but this is like probably less than 10 percent and most women i cannot speak for
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every single woman but i would say many women would want to experience like bearing your own child
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myself yeah i think that's fine yeah but the thing is like nine months pregnancy you're going through
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these symptoms of feeling like nauseous in the morning like stomach pain and whatever that comes
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with the pregnancy so of course like you have to make the trade-off you have to make a difficult
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decision between your career your personal development and your family so are you saying
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oh go ahead are you saying that kids are a burden then i'm not saying you have to pick between
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your career i never said kids are burden but i'm just saying like it's it's worth it to choose um
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children and family than your career but unfortunately this is a reality that if you're a career driven
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woman if you're motivated you have to make a face the difficult decision you want to weigh in okay do you
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prefer keeping pursuing your career or do you prefer having a stable family with children
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i mean as a woman nothing obligates you to having children if you prioritize your career you can go
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ahead and not get married not have kids and just focus on your career so if you want to do career fine
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yeah but then the thing is that's also a personal choice as a woman i would still because me personally
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i think i'm very family oriented um i think i would not um prioritize my career over the possibility of
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not having children for the rest of my life when i when i'm with the right person but i do think women
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have more options in this regard you can have a career uh i i agree that there could be some
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detriments like you get pregnant that might have an impact on your career but are you going to say
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once you have children you're just you won't be able to be a lawyer no there's plenty of female
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attorneys who have children and while it might be a bit of a setback in the same way if you had like
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a catastrophic injury and you had to take time off of work that would be a setback to your career too
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both men and women could be subject to that uh you you can still even if you do choose to have kids
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i'm sure you can continue being a lawyer if that's what you want to do i agree you'll have to take time
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off and that could have negative consequences but i don't think you're going to be like
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okay i'm a lawyer but i want to have kids if i have kids i'm going to be destitute in the street
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and broken homeless i don't think that i think that's not never my point i think that's way too extreme
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but what i'm saying and also i'm not saying that i'm going to take a huge step back in my career
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but the thing is um pregnancy of course after pregnancy you still have the child care responsibility
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because you're responsible responsible for this child not just the first year but probably the
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first like 15 and 18 years so you want to make sure that this kid grows up in like a healthy environment
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um so who's going to pay attention to this kid of course the mom probably will likely pay more
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attention so i'm just relating i can just relate an example from my co-worker before she had her
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first kid she was telling me i'm gonna focus really hard on getting promoted i'm gonna get all the
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bonuses and her mentality just changed after she had her first child she's like i just miss my child so
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much all i want to do is just to go home from right after my office um my office business hours are over
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what was the question uh we were talking about uh let's see oh uh men are more privileged in society
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than women and she was saying that uh how are men more privileged in society than women natalia
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i don't want to comment maren want to give a comment um i would just say because a mass majority of um
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the system the government different companies are ruled by men men just automatically have a little bit more privilege
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however in today's world it's getting better and that's all i'll say
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pasty george pasty george donated two hundred dollars there are two jumps in and rants about
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topics that have nothing to do with the subject being discussed it's like watching an old person
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with dementia rant crazily we understand your frustration brian lol oh pasty thank you for that
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man appreciate appreciate it um we're not going to be able to do everything on this questionnaire so i'll
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pick like maybe two or three more then we'll get this wrapped up uh guys i'm going to lower the tts
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to 69 69 tts if you want to get a roast in 69 tts a woman's past should not matter maren you agree with
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that statement natalia you may you agree lynn you agree kaylyn you agree uh typically this is in context of
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body count um why should a woman's past not matter as it relates to dating why because why would it matter
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we live in the present yeah a woman's past doesn't define who you are right now just like a man's
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doesn't okay you agree do you agree with that or i agree okay let me ask i i want to start with lynn
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here then i'll ask the rest of you this uh would you date a a guy who previously had sex with men
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um maybe it would make me uncomfortable but i don't think that's a deal breaker but it would make
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you uncomfortable yeah right is he being forthcoming with the information like it like is he up front in
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the date being like i used to be with men um i sure i guess i just want to make sure he doesn't go with
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other men after dating me while dating me uh well let's say he's bisexual i personally genuinely would
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not care at all okay that's fine yeah i don't care uh you said it makes you uncomfortable yeah but the
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thing is uh as long as he's forthcoming um and also as long like i said as long as he's loyal and
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he just doesn't go sleep with another man while dating me otherwise that would be a big issue okay
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but so to be clear you would be okay dating a man who's bisexual yeah let me ask you this would you be
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okay dating a man who a week prior had uh receptive anal sex uh would that be a problem yeah so he told
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you last week it was just a fling but now i'm and he's gonna be loyal right he said i was effed in
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the in the butt by a dude g-spot dog doggy style you wouldn't be like hold on hold on what the
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fuck i will probably give him like a big lol but uh but like why does it matter yeah what happened
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is i would ask about the size and try to provide a uh brian question would it be different if you
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were saying he liked to put toys up his butt well that's up to you that's a good question does it
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make him gay if he likes toys in his butt uh i don't i'm not i don't think that would technically make
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him gay because like a man could engage only in heterosexual sex but i suppose enjoy uh anal play
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i guess right but that how does that pertain she's just asking how what as in what makes you all over
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the place as in if if a guy's too embarrassed to go into a sex store but meets a guy at the gym that
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wants to fuck him in the sauna he might want to see what it feels like and i don't think that makes
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you know what i mean watch you guys don't know about the saunas down the saunas at men's gyms
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because guys are fucking in the saunas all the time and there are straight men
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in those saunas all the time just because it's it don't drop the soap i don't want to go to the gym
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anymore oh in prison yeah that's crazy in america in here in equinox in new york city
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in west hollywood fucking in the equinox you guys shut down the sauna crunch gym on sunset
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what about soul cycle that's the part i've never been if a man had a body count of 100 would that
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matter to you guys would you if a man had a body count of 100 yes would that matter to you i would
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be like that's very low honey you should step up what about what about yeah i wouldn't care better
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than being sexually inexperienced um honestly man or women i think a hundred's a bit high but go you
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um i don't know if i'd care as long as he's all checked out and i don't think that are forthcoming
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or honest with the information so i don't think we ever have an accurate understanding of how many
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people someone has slept with before we sleep with them yeah but also like who really discusses
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the body would i would yeah first question on the date what's your body count your first question
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on the day actually my first question is if they have um i only date women with large with large
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ladies so um like an audi like an audi how do you know if she has a big he asked that's the first
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question he asked on a date first question but are you circumcised or no that's my what's your body
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count how big is your labia and you know what if you meet a girl who wants to answer both those
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questions then like i think you're meant to be how long do you want a woman to hold out with sex before
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she sleeps with you like how many dates will you take a woman on and pay for them before you expect
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her to put out um he's like half yeah he's like please don't back with you kidding i mean i don't
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have any qualms with uh like sleeping with somebody relatively quickly so it could be first second
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third date most of my relationships uh it was relatively quickly so you're easy but you want
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a woman with a low body count i don't see how these two are necessarily contradictory you buy a woman
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dinner a couple times you would agree you wait can i ask one sec you would agree with me though
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that a woman who slept with a thousand men could meet me and be like 100 to a thousand
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what bro can you not interrupt like you interrupt with the most like at least if you're going to
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interrupt like make a good point make a fucking incoherent fucking rambling it's totally incoherent
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has nothing to do with the point i'm about to make oh my god so you would agree that a woman who
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slept with a thousand men and slept with them instantly she could meet me and be like i want
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to wait until marriage right and you would agree that i could meet a virgin and she could want to
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sleep with me immediately like it's logically possible yes okay so i don't what is your argument then
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oh i asked you a question that doesn't really okay what's your question you answered it you said
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a couple times you like when women sleep with you relatively quickly there's probably a is there not
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a correlation then between why you don't have a ring on your finger like do you think you need to get
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to know somebody a little bit better before you ask about their labia size i would be so offended if
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i went on a first date and the first question was what's your body and what you seem like you would
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probably be a size queen like you care about the guy's penis size right like would there be let me
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if he's not packing you're you're gonna have a second date with the guy i don't ask about it till
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i'm like ready to get intimate with somebody like i'm not gonna sit at a table i'll be like do you
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have a big dick okay you'll fuck him and then if he doesn't have a big dick you'll never talk to him
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again your your solution to the problem sounds way better you you misunderstood wait can i ask a
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question go ahead what like what's a body count that you would say is too high for a woman that you're
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dating like if a woman said my body count is xyz like what's a number that's like you're like
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that's pushing it sure i i suppose it would depend on her age like if she's a bit if she's a younger
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woman say she's 25 25 versus if she's like 35 there might be like leeway if she's a bit older okay 25 to
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35 what's like the yeah i'd say so i'd say um well okay the ideal is the lowest possible in terms of
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but you're asking like what's high just like if you asked a woman on a date what's your body count
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what's like the highest you would allow her to go before you'd say i can't fuck you anymore
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can't um i mean again i have a strong preference for the lowest body count possible but like
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uh probably the chat's going to disagree with me but like over 20 okay over 20 i'm starting to think
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like that's a respectable number yeah but like again like i'd prefer it to be under 10 wouldn't
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everyone wouldn't everybody we have pasty george here with his god pasty george donated 70 dollars
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shares one two three and four oh you are all disgusting degenerate feminists wow it's because
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women like you who are allowed to vote that everything is so messed up nowadays the future
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is cooked guys 69 69 69 tts pasty george the reason that we're cooked is because you've spent like
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over a thousand dollars just trying to get his attention by sending weird mean he's not trying
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to get my attention he's criticizing your guys's world view and he's made some good points
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okay doesn't affect us personally i respect his opinion lynn was based she was based at the
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beginning at least i know he's not the person uh i'm ever gonna go on a date with um okay uh wait
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where were we oh the a woman's passion okay should body count matter no no no no not really uh what's
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your body count i don't have infinity holy shit well you're you're in the you're in the industry
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i'm over a thousand for sure you're in the industry right yeah um what i had like 20 in a night
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i used to do uh gangbang parties back in the day i had a guy let's do some
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okay that's a lot of i mean i guess i was about to say that's a lot of information to give online but
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you do it online anyway so good for you on my oh you just did that for fun yeah okay i'm a real
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slut so um you want to give a range of the body count like you think i don't know over a thousand
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yeah around there yeah um i stopped counting in high school i don't know what when did you what
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number did you stop wait you stopped you stopped counting in high school what number
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medial counting something wait wait what number did you stop counting at oh my god i don't know
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like five i don't find that like i don't find what was your body count by the end of high school um
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like eight and then you stopped counting in high school too what was the body count at the end of
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high school you only had sex one probably around ten ten but i mean my question is i the reason i
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stopped counting is because do you only count the guys you want to remember do you count do you count
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the the essays do you count no you don't you don't count right so if those people don't count your body
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count then you're allowed to remove the assholes no like not give people that you want to remember
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you count the consensual like i'll go months i don't care if the guy was a dick you can't have no
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issues with it i don't need to have sex all the time but when i meet somebody that i might want to
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have sex with go for it i i don't need to keep a notebook and tally everybody's like freaking
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numbers that's my what uh range body count what do you think your body count is i would definitely
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say over 100 over 200 maybe i don't know i stopped counting but you think it might be no i've had less
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sex between 25 and 35 than i have between 15 and 25 good times i've been a lot more body count like
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i think it's reasonable i mean within your range i mean i mean because i was in a long-term relationship
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so i was completely loyal what what is it um i think i have the right to not disclose the number but i'm
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saying like um brian would think i'm fine to date based on his standards that's a good answer 19.
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um whatever you think okay uh uh so that's lynn's answer what about you maren i'll say the same thing
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i mean less than these two lovely ladies right here but um yeah you would think i'm fine to date but that
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doesn't mean i'm at 20 that just means that you'd be fine with it i could be between one and 20.
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do you want to give a range so um no i do not what about you one okay two
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okay there it is there you have it folks a woman's passion matter body count should matter
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some of you are a little hesitant to share the body count if it doesn't matter i feel like you'd be
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more a little more forthcoming with sharing the body count but i just really didn't don't count
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i literally have had experiences i forget about and then i'll see something and it'll remind me
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and i'll be like oh yeah i did do that that time like i mean life is so full we do so many things
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like hey look how can you remember every night i get it um brian gets it i i get it you know some
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guys are forgettable like really lackluster in the bedroom i'm a virgin then what the okay uh all right
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guys get them in 69 tts row session get them in here guys get them in if you want to get a message
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ctx are donated 69 dollars chair one is fundamentally dishonest if you want to see proof you deflect watch
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this podcast from the start andrew wouldn't make you cry cause he rage baits it's cause he'd destroy
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your world view would you come back on the show definitely not thank you though with andrew
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a one thousand percent zero percent chance it wasn't that bad i really thought this would be
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like a two-hour ordeal and i've been here for six hours eight and a half oh yeah in the in that case
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um yeah i would very much i'm tired and i'd very much like to leave we're gonna wrap soon um that
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hurts though i thought we i thought this you know this has been an experience for sure are you my
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caucasian i don't know what that means are you my caucasian what does that mean are you my caucasian
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i don't know what that means well let me ask a establishing question are you are you white yeah
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i'm white so are you my caucasian i'm not yours but i don't know what i don't know what you mean
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by that okay i'll explain it like rephrase i i can't believe i got to explain this but let me
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i've never heard that be asked i'm gonna put you on some game so you know how you know how um black
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people will say are you my i can't say it are you my n-word oh like are we friends no one ever said
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that by the way first are you my are you my are you my caucasian are you are you my caucasian i know
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we disagreed on the whole bunch but i think it's been mostly polite i'm okay with you i don't want
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to come back what up my cracker andrew missed his chance mr g andrew you shouldn't call in today
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um all right i don't want to debate andrew i'd get too upset and i know that the internet loves to
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see me upset okay so a couple more things we're you know what we're going to do uh let's see oh wait
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what was the thing oh gotta play the bow video we always play the bow video so i have a video i took
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of my ex-girlfriend uh consensually what what video the fuck okay yes go ahead and play the uh the bow
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video uh hide that before you start it so this is my ex-girlfriend um okay and this is my expectations
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before you play this is what i expect from a girlfriend uh-oh i expect her to bow go ahead
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boom do you hit did you see the bow in japan people all the time wait no play it play keep it what the
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the play that we'll play it back later um okay and you know look i she had to do my laundry super
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quick i this was after a long podcast shoot and um look at this so obviously rage bait hold on
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look she's got my beer she's got my beer ready um she's got my dinner ready well if this pleases her
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then good for her how long i'm happy how much look at that look at her stirring the noodles i'm
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happy that you found this and that she's play it again oh my god i can't believe this boom do you
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look at the fucking bow do you see do you see the bad that's normal how much do you pay the higher
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if she's happy doing that for you and that is what you want then wonderful she proposed it
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i was like i was like babe so who cares you don't have to do and she's like no i want to do this well
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i'm happy that you got that she forced me to watch her bow she forced me i was
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it was again she bowed against my consent she was like you know what fuck you brian i'm about anyways
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you don't want this i'm about and then she kind of i got on her page i was like you know what i kind
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of like this shit well if she likes it then that's the question now is the question now is 69 tts guys
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get them in would for the perfect man for the perfect man would you bow for him not if he asked me to but
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if i felt like it if i if my perfect man would never make me do that however if i just wanted to
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sure like i love my boyfriend that i have right now so much like i said i make him food all the time
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even though he says he'll make it himself i enjoy doing things for him he would never say like bow
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for me what if the framing is this there's a magic genie and he says i will give you the perfect man
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so the perfect man isn't asking for it but it is a condition of the genie granting you this wish of
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getting the perfect man that in order to get the perfect man every single day or when you meet him
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anyways if you're not seeing him every day whatever you have to hit the bow under those circumstances
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would you do it so it's an external third party it's not an expectation of the man but you have to do it to get
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him well he wouldn't be my perfect man if i had to bow so no but but it's not because of him it's
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because of the genie would you do it um if a genie said i could only keep the boyfriend i have right
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now if i bowed every day sure oh you okay so you would do it i mean i love my boyfriend i don't think
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he would find it i don't think he'd force me to do that and if he wasn't forcing me to do it and i was
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just gonna do it then i wouldn't care okay what about you would you do the bow for the perfect man
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no but i've uh i've washed my man you've washed like from top to bottom like i physically like
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i bathed him and like in the shower and i do appreciate the man's body i washed his feet
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i washed everything so i do feel like i could be submissive and i could bow down to him in that
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situation and but not not like that never okay what about you would you for the perfect man yeah for the
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perfect man i probably would if that makes me and him happy but i just don't think bowing to
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someone is a perfect way of showing affection i'd rather just kiss him i agree even give him a shoulder
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rub when he comes back from a long time well that's a given of course you have to do the bow and do
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shoulder rubs yeah i can do i can bow in like a playful way uh but that doesn't mean like innately
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i'm inferior to him it's just doing it out of affection yeah exactly no wait is he gonna bow to me at all
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no nope one way would you bow for the for the perfect man if a genie asked me to i would what
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if the man asked you to i didn't think that wasn't the question it wouldn't be the perfect man
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well you said yes you would do it for the genie now i'm okay does the bow include everything we
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saw in the video like no just the bow oh that's it yeah okay bow for the perfect man so i am dating
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the perfect man and i do bow for him because you watch the show right yeah the bow was from the
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show you learned the bow and he appreciates the bow yes he does okay look i'm just saying i'm
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putting you girls i'm putting you ladies on some game here try the bow you know you might hate it
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but if it gets you the guy i think my boyfriend would laugh in my i think the man you love that
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the man will be like what the heck i also think i also think on the first date if the woman comes
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over she should do your laundry never no i'm never touching anything are you a man that's such a good
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joke that's hilarious a joke oh hold on he should do my laundry no on the first date you bring the
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girl over how about this am i your servants are we still in college she folds the laundry like this
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is a young a young question maybe the man is completely capable of doing it himself but he wants the
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woman to do it first day no big red flag that first date is crazy would you do it no it's not
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even exclusive on the third date what the fuck yeah if okay if i decide to do my boyfriend's laundry
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he'll say oh my gosh thank you i could have done it myself but thank you so much and i'm fine doing
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that he would appreciate no i do it i do it sometimes i'll fold his laundry or sometimes i'll put it away
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however if he said do my laundry i'd be like you're fucking full of shit no you don't say it like that
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here's how you do it she comes over on the first date you you take her hand you hold her hand
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romantically and you guide her to the laundry basket you walk her you walk her to the laundry room now
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i'm a gentleman right in the closet walk you to the atm machine so she doesn't have to do she doesn't
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have to do everything it's already in the dryer she just has to fold it i walk her in i give her
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a kiss on the cheek and you say can you please no i don't say anything i just i look at her
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here i'll put it on i look at her pretend this is the laundry basket oh wait can they see it in the
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frame all right i look at her i look at the laundry basket i look back up at her look at the laundry
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basket look at her and then without saying anything you just walk away i turn and i walk out of the
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laundry room i think i just follow you out just she just kind of knows then that's your perfect woman
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she just knows to do it you know you know what if you want that if that's your provocative and
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that woman wants to do it then good on you both don't you think that's the least you could do with
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they pay for a very expensive dinner i don't i don't make them pay and you and they ask you to fold
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your their laundry i don't make them pay oh he has a maid official not like my man is rich
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he hangs his clothes we don't fold clothes we hang clothes yeah it doesn't matter do your laundry you
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know like i go to the dry cleaners i just drop it off if i become a stay-at-home wife and my husband
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goes to work all day long i'll be happy to do his laundry for him in that scenario however if we're
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a boyfriend girlfriend and we're just in a normal relationship and we both have stuff going on
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he's a grown man he can do his own laundry so you have to be married to provide no it depends on the
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whole situation if i'm a working woman and i go to work the same amount that my husband goes to work
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then he can also do his own laundry however if my husband works so much that i can become a stay-at-home
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wife or whatever i'll totally do the laundry i'll totally cook i'll totally clean whatever however
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that's not the story for everyone so i don't think you should say that's the least i can do without
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like knowing the whole story i mean he paid for your dinner but i literally just told you that i
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don't know you say you don't make him but like let's say he does he offers he said earlier that
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if like if he's clearly insistent on paying you said that yeah he'll pay for my dinner
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you don't think that's the least that wasn't me and also why do you have to do long drawing on
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first date that's just weird wait have you ever had a one night stand uh yes well what's interesting
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to me though is this so you guys complain about the bowel complain about the laundry
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the same women who will suck a dude's dick on the first date you won't you won't do his laundry
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i get pleasure and also pleasing the man in that way sure but wouldn't but you would be pleasing the
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man by doing his laundry so wouldn't that same sort of thing apply no because i'm not getting any
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satisfaction out of doing the laundry i'm getting satisfaction okay how about this women be women
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will you will literally let a man inside of you on the first date okay some people might say that's
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weird it is i'm just saying it seems like the bow or the laundry is less than
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letting a man insert his penis inside of you at risk of you potentially getting pregnant you let
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maybe you let him black maybe you're on birth control you're gonna let him blast inside of
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you you're gonna let him come inside of you you're gonna let him but maybe blast on your face i don't
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know i'm just saying i'm just saying you guys gotta think about these things she likes it i think
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i don't think we should be doing like stuff like that with like doing laundry for each other on the
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first date that's weird like i'm not going to your house first of all i don't know you you've been
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yeah also the men are supposed to give undivided attention to the women and so do women on the
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first date then why would the men be so bothered by the laundry you can just do it the next day when
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the after the women leaves the date yeah but it's like if she can save me five or ten minutes like
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just have her like yeah why is the guy so what would you be doing in the meantime while she's
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doing laundry just watching yeah just watch oh i'd just go on my computer and like watch um
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watch like uh you know okay i if the woman wants to do your laundry and you want to watch tv and she's
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fine with that then like i said that's totally fine i am not the one that's her provocative yeah good for
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that girl for wanting to do that w to all the women out there who will do who will do the bow
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and who will fold your laundry on the first date and they'll love they will love it good for them
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good for i i wish you luck now the reason i bring this up though is interesting to me i would for me
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to get the perfect woman i would even i would never bow to a woman but for the perfect woman i'll hit a
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bow i'll bow for the perfect you gotta realize when we're talking perfect here i'm thinking like
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okay she's a trillionaire and she's hot and she's that scenario hell yeah all these things i'm like
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yeah but when i when i'm talking fuck i think maybe it's unfair to include like she's okay the perfect
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man or perfect perfect woman is a trillionaire maybe that's unfair but like perfect in every regard
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except like okay they're not they're not fucking obscenely with them yeah like looks personality
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perfect there's a lot of things i would compromise on for the perfect women woman i literally will
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break up with you if you're snoring if you snore at night that's a that's a deal breaker i cannot
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i find it very hard i feel like there's a lot of my boyfriend i feel like there's a lot of women
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there's plenty of men like there's a lot of women who they wouldn't make certain compromises for the
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perfect guy and i think it's kind of just interesting um and the bell what was there was something else
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oh we do a segment on the show right before we wrap where's the let's get to it all right
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uh you guys have to remove you don't watch oh my gosh you can remove your makeup if you'd like
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i'm okay i'm good on that you do you want to remove your sure i look the same without makeup
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okay no get the honest ones do it yeah do it oh my goodness they're they're good they're all
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good thanks for looking out for a sister oh wow uh those have more chemicals we we worry about chemicals
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honestly i drink usually out of a glass bottle only i think women should also should i do just half my
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face yeah oh yeah that's a good idea do half just half yeah just half i like that idea
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maren here she's she's sharp she had a good idea there that was good uh i also think women should
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churn butter on a first date too like if she doesn't you're funny guys if she won't churn butter
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find one that will if if she won't yeah keep searching forever if she won't if he doesn't send
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you a thousand dollars to your bank account at the first date don't don't don't go out with him
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at all don't date him we got to do the whole face i don't know should we felicity you're going to do
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this or what if he doesn't pay you're gonna do it you're gonna do it you're gonna do it i'm on the
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fence i'm gonna do it come on she's not felicity yeah we got things to do we got people to see we
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have friends here oh yeah we're we're just about to wrap i'm telling you this and i have my eye bags
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are serving what's that mary oh we got hey we got some reacts actually we do it next time
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gender swap we're not gonna do the reacts we're gonna do those next time oh we didn't even did
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we do the gender swap mary i'll show you a picture of me wait can we do the gender that'd be hilarious
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i look like my brother i've done these pictures already okay i look like my dad it's weird i will
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look pretty i do not want to look like my father do you want to take all of it off okay sure yeah just
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take it i have to do it he's not a good looking man my dad is shorter than my mom like it was just
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not i can take off the face she's gorgeous too yeah because i gotta wash my face at home so anyways
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saves me time by doing it you just see a little more acne i think my eye looks a little bigger on
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this side so pull eyeliner some mascara here's what we're doing the tts we're going to do 30 tts 29.99
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dollar tts we're going to do the roast session then we're wrapping wrapping the show we always end
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with a roast session so if you want guys get it in 30 tts for a little roast you guys need to
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roast keep it half and half yes wait let's look look into this camera right here so that's half and
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half now do you want to just go she looks the same uh you can't tell you can just see more acne i'm like
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which side is the one that you took off yeah i can't tell i just have like you can see my zits
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right here everyone has acne guys normalize it acne is very normal we should not shame
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the acne enjoyers or pavers i guess uh okay acne enjoyers yeah i really enjoy my acne i like popping
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pimples same it's addictive me too if a man let me pop his pimples um that's that's my ex did not let
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me do it i was like what is wrong you pick on you guys stop it's gross all right guys 30 hold on 30
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dollar tts let me get that all set up uh the girls are working on their makeup if you want get a roast
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in get a roast in here uh oh here i'm gonna let some come through these are these are at 60.
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vector donated seventy dollars and 68 cents chair one i get it life is unfair we don't always get what
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we want i want you to shut up but you won't because life is unfair you're out here trauma dumping
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masquerading as intellectually sound when did i trauma dump you did not say i literally said absolutely
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nothing personal vector thank you vector for the message george donated seventy dollars chair one
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you chose not to return because your incorrect world view was challenged and questioned so you
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went to the washroom to cry because you are not used to that calm down woman um i did go to the
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bathroom to take a break because i thought i was going to be here for two hours and it's been what
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eight whatever my stomach hurts i have to drive home tonight pasty george donated seventy dollars
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thank you pasty don't women expect or like it when men bow on one knee when proposing opening doors for
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them yes yes yes protecting or standing up for them what's wrong with a respectful bow we all ended up
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answering yes i do have a yes you want to know if women would propose to their significant other
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no i think he's saying that like a lot like for example do you want to get you don't want to get
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married one day yeah i'm already married she's been oh she's would you want a guy to buy you a ring
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to buy me a ring yes of course and would you want him to get down on one knee yes
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and propose to you yeah i don't know that's i feel like kneeling and getting that's kind of worse than a
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bow but that's the tradition i mean it has been a tradition since maybe a hundred years ago so
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what's the problem like well i would find it super weird if he doesn't want to keep the tradition going
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you know what if my boyfriend didn't get on one knee and just proposed to me standing up i don't
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think i'd care very much like he just took the ring box and just like chucked it at you well that's
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a little disrespectful there you go maryn are you gonna marry me or not well i don't think he'd ever
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ask like that but what and i don't need it to be a big ring either i really don't care a lab ring
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i don't care what if like he took you out to a nice dinner and he didn't like get on his thing
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he just sat across from you i'd literally honestly be fine with that wait what people put in food
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right wait mary do you notice when you're scene switching it are you touching wait can you test
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it out let me just look and see yeah and you're not touching the other button do it again do it
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again go from left to right oh i see when you go right right yeah center right left oh that's so
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oh you know what i might okay i'll have to i'll look that's a technical thing i'll look at it after
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the show can you remind me mary after the show to take a look at that i was noticing that happening
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i'm not sure why uh quick follow-up though on the whole bowing thing uh do you guys want
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a guy to adhere to or observe the sidewalk rule so this is when you're walking down the sidewalk
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the guy walks closer to the where the cars are the street i don't care it's not necessity
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but i think chivalry is not that i would appreciate that
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i think it's a very sweet gesture if a man does that don't you think that that's a bigger ask though
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than about but the thing is about is not as common as the crosswalk thing you were talking about but
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all traditions there is an origin origination point like men kneeling that at some point
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started somewhere and it was not a tradition that i don't know exactly when the knee getting down on
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one knee thing it might even actually be a bit more on the modern side maybe i'm not totally sure
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it has been kept ever since yeah majority of men would kneel but it started at some point right like
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men were probably at one point like man i ain't gonna be no bitch i ain't gonna get down on the
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knee and oh excuse well please can i marry you no it used to be woman you're mine here's here's
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i've never been like this no it was asking their dad like can i just take her and the dad's like yeah
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it's always been a business yeah i'm thinking of like caveman days and
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shit it's a woman did they get married in caveman days here's a here's a dead wildebeest what you're
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my wife woman like it's probably some crazy weird like here's a fucking wildebeest i killed this
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wildebeest for you but yeah no i'd be like hey thanks
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if a man kills a wildebeest for you that's pretty impressive i feel like
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he's the one yeah that means he owns me completely for hey i wasn't saying that i was just saying you
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got to at least be like all right in that time i'll go on a date with a guy he killed a wildebeest
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no shit okay uh lynn will you marry me uh nope after knowing you for just a few hours
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definitely not no i'm very rational rational so you need a green card yeah but that's that's what
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what i'm getting at is is like that's you want a guy to get down on one knee like the way the way i did
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the way the way i did it you wouldn't be okay with it yeah because the historical practice is
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the guy needs to uh kneel it sounds like that doesn't like women that sounds like a man who
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doesn't like women yeah it's because for me i think that's a very sweet and romantic gesture
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because yeah why he doesn't want to kneel to a woman it sounds like you like men you female
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supremacist you want us to get down on one knee and look what kind of oppression you guys are so
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privileged that's not about privilege yeah you guys you guys are ridiculous this is misandry you
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guys are sexist towards men and i'm just gonna say i don't think i think you guys have very outdated
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uh true gender roles i thought we were supposed to talk about modern dating yeah i agree we've been
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talking about the past and history and i don't want his woman to propose to him i thought that
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i don't even want to get married that sounds like a man could propose to you yeah wouldn't you think
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it's weird a guy makes an exception to not kneel at the proposal i would think he didn't really
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put in that much effort he probably doesn't even know how to do a proper proposal would you be upset if
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he bought you a uh a ring off of amazon um like a ten dollar ring if he could afford different then
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maybe i i wouldn't be upset he's a millionaire well then i'd be like what's going on that's smart
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that's smart if i was a billionaire and then look i wouldn't get married but if i was going to get
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married trust me i'm getting her if you were a billionaire you wouldn't get married ten dollar
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ring i'm getting if i was going to get married and i was a billionaire she can get a ten dollar
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i'm getting her ten dollar ring on amazon okay because i'm a gentleman this would never happen
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right right now you're getting a timu ring when she proposed can i just give him like a key key
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chain return yeah i'm gonna give him like yeah like whatever that thing is called it's got a big
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tie you're getting a zip tie it's 69 as a polish born man dot the blonde dumb ass is average at best
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in poland and less than average in the usa don't let her lie to you brian she's your typical dumb
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blonde typical internet 304 we don't claim her you don't claim her i guess he's from warsaw because
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i i they don't like it because every point in poland is racist so i have a lot of scenes with
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non-white people so they don't like me but i am the most famous porn star in poland you're the most
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famous porn star in poland period uh-huh it's facts okay it's facts all right sure i believe you
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we have relentless phallus oh boy relentless phallus donated 69 dollars question for the panel
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who did you vote for or who would you have voted for that's so funny who did you vote for um i voted
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for kamala but not because i support everything that she said just because i really did not want
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donald trump to win okay who or i don't vote i voted for trump you voted for trump okay she's she's
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she's on the fence you know she's kind of based sort of but my count doesn't matter in california
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yeah i don't like them come on okay uh who did who did you vote for in the election
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i didn't who would you have voted for neither okay fair what about you trump
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i did not vote okay all right thank you uh relentless phallus for that question great name
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wonderful name is this mary oh is this this is the mary my producer to do the laundry i always
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bow for my boyfriend and wait you insist on doing the laundry like he's gonna try to do it you're like
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nah okay look ladies i know you don't like this i'll just try it out like go to a guy's the first
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time you go to the guy's house doesn't have to be the first date when you do go to the guy's house
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for the first time just be like look at him wait let me give you the game i'm giving you the game i'm
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i'm giving you the game look deep into his eyes deep into his eyes don't offer him a bj like you
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want to do okay look deep into his eyes and be like i'm gonna do your laundry where's your
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fucking laundry where is your laundry room where no no no you gotta say i i was being i was joking
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you gotta be a bit more like feminine with it be like um can i please do your laundry sir um where's
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your laundry room sounds like the beginning of a porno i'm stuck in the washer that's the only
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time that we would do a laundry just be like where is your where's your laundry room where's your
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laundry go and do his laundry go and offer to do his laundry do his laundry i know you hate to hear
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that but i'm telling you this guy is gonna look at you differently and if that's what it takes to get
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the guy you as a simp if that's what it takes to get the guy then i don't want the guy i'm not
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listening to your advice anymore i don't think so you were already dealing with that dude before you
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met me it's your fault i need to love her oh oh you met me you were dating this guy you started
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doing the laundry which you're probably doing before anyways and then she's trying to blame
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respecting you if you start being their servants no they'll fall in love with you no they'll fall
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in love with you more i don't want to wipe you up i am a goddess and men are supposed to serve me
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and that's how i feel nope and that's how i've been living my life disavow disagree okay so that's
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i've been living my life for the last 10 years and men have been serving me so that's my reality
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no so i agree with you and there's definitely i absolutely agree that women can my ex will do my
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laundry would cook for me yes would do all that stuff will pick me up from the airport
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would do everything for me i agree i guess that didn't work out either i agree with you that men
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will probably because you didn't respect him i agree with you that men will do that
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shit but i'm telling you ladies it's look if you do this it's not going to get you a negative outcome
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if you really like the guy it's not but if you really anyone but if you like if you really like the
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guy and maybe you've struggled in the past with getting the guy if you want to get the guy you
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got to do things beyond what other women are willing to do every other woman is willing to suck his dick
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every other woman is willing to give him sex you got to put yourself beyond what other women are
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willing to do okay and if you think all it's going to take if you that guy you really want
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if you think all it's going to take is to give him sex or have sex with him maybe for simps or dudes
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who don't really like get a lot of women that might work but if you're dealing with a guy who's really
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attractive and all you're bringing to the table is sex it's not going to be enough you got to bring
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value in another way that's all we're bringing that's not what i'm saying either intelligence
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yes it is yeah well no that's not the problem what's that i know a lot i'm sure if i bow in front
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of my crush i child's will occur the formula one driver i was talking about he's not gonna just wife
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me up no if you find the one there will be a balance some women want to do a guy's laundry
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some women don't and they'll find their match but it's a willingness to be submissive
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and show some sort of deference to him yeah showing deference is good also depends on um
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how the men treat you back yes i'm the men the men what's the next problem otherwise you're a masochist
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i'm gonna do his laundry and i shrink everything
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look then he'll never i'll put one red shirt on purpose i'll just i'll just make sure i'll do it
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really bad in the beginning so he'll never ask me to do it again i'm just saying weaponizing
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competence i'll do that the last guy i did laundry for was not faithful and was a total sociopath so
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okay sure and people can do all the right things and still end up with bad people what i am saying
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is though it it actually will not hurt you actually at all to even test it out if you're going to the
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guy's house for the first time oh my god test it out and maybe the response that you get from the guy
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might be like wow okay so yeah i had to like do do laundry it took me five or ten minutes
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and it took hold on it took a bit of effort but then if that gets the guy to be like who is holy
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who is this woman she's like done this thing maybe like at least for me acts of service uh receiving
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acts of service that's your love language receiving acts of service nice yeah that's like but i think
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that's the case for a lot of guys i feel like all of those are for mine all they're all great they're
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all wonderful all of us need all of that when you guys are choosing only one thing everyone needs
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everything you didn't ask us what our love languages were yeah someone doesn't take it for granted
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i'm just kidding i care you don't i can't you care sorry was that on camera my bad um all right let me
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let the chats come through we'll let karma do it 30 tts get them in the chats are coming the roasts are
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energy donated thirty dollars thank you big sass chair two covering up her fooper the entire
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episode one thousand body count expects a man with a million plus salary so comically delusional
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no man with that sort of money or close would settle for you i had plenty of offers babe okay
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trusty texan donated thirty dollars brian on rights women can enslave men by lying
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about birth control guy would have to pay her twenty percent of his income with jail time if he
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refuses to pay with passport automatically revoked if over two thousand five hundred dollars
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uh i mean yeah and the other thing uh so a woman could like poke a hole in a condom there there are
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scenarios men who try to trap me before yeah men can do it too to women but that's why i said like
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like they shouldn't have a lot of women do it they shouldn't if they don't want the child they
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shouldn't have to be involved yeah but there are scenarios like probably the most egregious if the
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woman's allowed to get an abortion if she chooses but there are even there are potentially even scenarios
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where you might i might be able to convince you even in states where abortion is outlawed you might
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even be willing to make some concessions on this so for example uh there are stories of like
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teachers for example who essay their students like right in high school or whatever and the the
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teacher gets pregnant and you would you would agree with me that this is like i don't know if
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you would say it's great but you might say it's like a form of essay it is yeah um and so but
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there have been cases where female uh like child predators got pregnant off of their victim yeah and
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then we're able to pursue child support and i do not think that's fair that's very
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i'm very sad now you're just a rare situation i am using a very extreme example but it it's in
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context of what he brought in states where abortion is illegal and women cannot get an abortion for
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any reason men should have to pay child support however if a woman has the right to choose and
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chooses to keep the child then the man should also get a right to choose whether or not he's involved
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or not pasty george george thank you man appreciate it chair one two three and four all i hear from you
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for is what do you expect from men whether it is traditional or not if you expect things from men
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why can't men expect such a little thing as a boat i literally said i don't expect anything i don't
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expect the sidewalk wait let me say this i did not i don't expect the sidewalk rule i don't expect them to
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pay for me i don't expect anything so count me out of that also i'm tasty george i'm gonna be taking
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a hundred percent from what the men offer i reciprocate and because i never want to owe anything
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but i don't want to make effort on men who don't even care about me who don't make any gesture i think
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it's all about fairness and i think what's fair is women should do laundry on the first date
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if i gotta pay for the first i'm paying for the first day maybe you could do the laundry you
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know what i'm saying god i usually get paid to go on a date if you pay i'll drive
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i get to free food and money on top of that 500 women are the worst drivers
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make up is expensive too did you say women are the worst drivers yes maybe you are it's a joke
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it's a joke calm down i'm an amazing driver i drive ferraris i've rode rolls royces wait guys guys guys
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we got hold on let me read i gotta re-trigger it i gotta re-trigger it i can't is it this one pasty
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george donated thirty dollars care two so a man who refuses to bow on one knee to a woman for proposing
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is hateful to women then by that logic women who refuse to bow to men as a sign of respect
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are hateful toward men good point it is a good point i'm hateful what what i do find interesting and
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i won't linger on this is just like i do think there i do think that women want to sort of abandon or
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what's god damn bro sorry i'm fucking tired women want to abandon their traditional gender roles
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but they want men to adhere to their traditional gender roles so like even feminist liberal progressive
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women are still going to like say stuff like i want a guy who's willing to provide and protect
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and like do that take on the initiative when it comes to courtship and leadership and i want him to
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ask me out i want him to make the first move i want him to go for the first kiss i want him to do
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all the things that are uh associated traditionally with traditional gender roles but like i also want
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to totally like get rid of all my traditional gender roles which i just think is interesting
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i just want to be worshipped i still want to act like okay donated 30 dollars thank you one is
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insufferable oh she's like a petulant 16 year old theater kid who takes herself too seriously
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she thinks women should run the world but can't handle a few hours on a podcast without crying yeah i'm
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having horrible stomach pains right now um and it's what one in the morning crazy back pain right
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now it's my back one in the morning i'm exhausted or whatever it's like 12 something i don't know
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back and neck pain good for you i'm answering a question you should go to yoga come down a little
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bit you should do yoga i did not expect this today i thought this was gonna be a fun two-hour
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podcast where we just talked about dating this was fun was it i had fun arguing with you i have
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felt she had fun since i walked in she you had fun arguing with her too no i did not okay i i am i
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stand corrected maryn had a terrible time i didn't say terrible i just wasn't enjoying myself these past
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eight hours i i do want to say something nice to you maryn i know you know we obviously disagree on a
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lot we were arguing we were debating i do want to give credit where credit is due um a lot of
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people i think on both sides of the political spectrum uh don't want to have discussions with
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the other side there's a lot of political polarization uh so i give you credit in terms of
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your uh your i i don't know if bravery seems like a bit dramatic but like choice your conversation
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your openness and willingness to sit down with somebody who you probably either ideologically
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disagree with substantially have that conversation that shows an open-mindedness uh that that you're
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even willing to have conversations that could be uh difficult or that you you know you're faced with
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viewpoints and world views you disagree with you did participate you you provided a lot of pushback
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so um i do give you credit one nice comment guys i got one nice comment and to his point you have been
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in a lot of ways consistent like with some of the the logical stuff like you are at least consistent
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for the most part there's been a couple things even though we disagree on things i'm still consistent
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and i've said multiple times i think you can have your opinion i can have my opinion and by the way just
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to be clear like again i know we argued no hard feelings whatsoever i don't have any ill will
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towards you i thought it was a fun conversation i kind of enjoy having these uh you know disagreements
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and heated conversations definitely interesting and uh yeah so we have randy here with a message
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oh is it coming through chair one wasn't randy donated thirty dollars i knew it brixton you're
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welcome for me putting you that was you randy thank you man appreciate it he is thirty dollars to buy
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more oh thank you chair one you're insufferable entitled a man hater and midis fugue doctor her boyfriend
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run w chair six scoot more that way run back wait can you guys with the makeup wipes can you just hold
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them up to the camera right here just hold them up so we can see the damage like open it spread
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whoa that sounded weird open it and spread that sounded in my bad house okay uh
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uh we got pasty george pasty george donated thirty dollars
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we in the chat thank you you voted for carmela harris you feminist lmfao that was really nice thank
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you you can roast them back by the way i mean she works carmela harris i've been roasting pasty george
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for spending the past eight hours watching the same podcast and spending all his money on it
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well he's a patron of the show yeah pasty george pasty george he's you should go he's probably like
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in his mom's basement where is trailer swift trailer swift trailer swift we're gonna wrap
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the show we need you here trailer swift you call her trailer swift well it she uh should we pull it
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should we oh my god trailer i'm trailer drift that's that that's her she's trailer drift should we
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play the video yeah show them mary are you able to find the video or not that's a tongue is long
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you're answering yeah i'm like confused mug shotties oh mug okay i'll try to find it while the chats come
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through stargazer donated 30 a compliment chair one you are literally one of the most beautiful girls i
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have ever seen in my life but your positions slash views are just strong i wish the best for you and i
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hope you change your ways god bless you thank you question mark thank you were you able to find it
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mary that was nice yeah mug shotties that ended with two nice comments is it just gonna be they're not
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gonna pin it it's on reels no oh my how many fucking posts oh they have a i'm not gonna find it that's
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like it's not that it's whatever i don't care mary if you can find it do it try to find uh just look
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up my full name 29 no none cares for her career she's a total disgrace simps serve her not real men
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she's only for the money she doesn't follow god she is not polish worthy she's following liberal ideology
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i believe i'm god oh period i am following god does he follow yourself period huh interesting uh
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i mean okay everyone's entitled to their own belief lizzie b 95 donated 69 dollars now that women work
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due to feminism and pay into their own pensions should divorce laws be modernized so they no longer
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allow access to a husband's pension i mean husbands can set up prenups so and so can wives
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pre-nups exist pre-nups are good yeah pre-nups can be challenged and it only applies to
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what is accrued during the course of the marriage course of the marriage so um there are concerns
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there but can't really get guys into it thank you big sass appreciate it thank you liz by the
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way it's gang banged by a bunch of dudes book cakes and came all over but buying for her man is the line
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lololol oh thank you for that big sass energy appreciate it we have snap more i've never done
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snap more donated 29 this misandrist gen is learning pretentiousness and losing sight on accountability
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no morals no humility the most disgusting generation we've ever had in the history of
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human race i think this is the best generation ever you think this generation is the worst
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generation of the entire wait how old are you it's more the millennials and uh the older yeah i was
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about to say i'm younger than you how old are you 20 i'm 19 wow good talk okay we have pasty george
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here snap more things for the message 30 to the panel from chair one to chair six please answer one
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at a time what duties and responsibilities do women have to themselves in today's modern society
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in your own opinion um whatever i want for myself like what do you mean duties and responsibilities
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for myself whatever i want for myself like it's my own decisions i don't really know what that question
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means my duties to make myself happy keep myself happy if you're in the relationship of course being
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devoted to the men but on the other hand if you're not in the relationship you can still be
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financially and spiritually um independent and be happy
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okay as a single person my only job is to make sure that i take care of myself
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stay happy enjoy life stay alive yeah keep myself fed clothed
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so the question just a reminder what duties and responsibilities do women have to themselves
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in today's modern society i think uh being not promiscuous um being loyal but i feel like that goes
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for everybody um respecting everybody especially men and all that they do for us do you have something to
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say to hayley i'm saying if men are sleeping with someone did you grow up like amish or mormon or
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something no i actually uh my family is liberal how do they feel about your views how do they feel about
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my yeah and where are you from i'm from san cruz california really really liberal wow really that's
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crazy how you've been like changed like this my family so crazy yeah it's pretty it's pretty crazy
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well i do think there's a ton of shit wrong with society and so it can make it can push women back
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to the extreme totally go back to the way things used to be because the cardi b songs and the pop the
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pussy and the wop songs and all that shit is not helping men take women more seriously so we can't
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control the movies that hollywood makes or the songs that people put out but what she's saying is we can
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control ourselves and we can go back to being more old school and victorian yes not even old
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i just don't know just being respectful of yourself and not showing off your bi-tech i think that's
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every man every man feel good in it every man on my internet posting your sexy pictures on your
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instagram saying oh it's just for myself it's just right but this is like a societal issue this is not
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just like that we're so right like why does it matter though it's totally fine for you to say
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for you dressing a certain way or posting a certain thing you don't like it it makes you uncomfortable
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that's totally fine but to like put other women down and say like you have a duty to be not promiscuous
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and you being promiscuous is wrong it's just it's ugly it's very like middle eastern well women should
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be fully covered and wear parkas and keep their hair covered and not speak i think that um
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if you want men to respect you then you shouldn't be dressing promiscuously like with the gym all
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those girls that wear the super tight they're in their bra and they're in spandex that you can
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literally see everything yeah but it's not about you can see the you can see the vagina and they're
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like hold on let me finish my point let me finish my point and all the women are like oh why is this
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creepy guy why is he still why is he looking at me in the gym i'm just here to work out but you're
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literally dressed guys you're literally let me finish my point please sounds like you're
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adult and you haven't tapped into your own femininity or sexuality yet at this point in your life please
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don't interrupt me stare at me working out like yeah that's not really don't even work out they're
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just sitting like across men don't work out just to look at me and stalk and watch me work out you
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don't understand that what are you wearing what doesn't matter what i'm wearing doesn't matter what
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i'm wearing because men inherently like are creepy and ass unmarried creepy they've never seen a woman
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before does that mean when i see a man in a speedo i like go up to him and stare at his penis
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feel pretty and feel sexy herself what does her mother has total liberty to feel good i don't
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either think about the gym yeah no one was talking about i was talking about promiscuity and one of
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the main things in promiscuity is in the gym all the girls wear super tight bras have having their
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boobs a sports bra yeah and their boobs are popping out and they wear spandex that go
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right yes i go to the gym what about like a ride up that ride up that you wear sweats and a long
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crazy a vagina i just don't see what she wears a suit to the gym with i could dressing and i
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were like like a real person like they're dressing like a like an object
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ask like lululemon all these brands to stop like producing like tights and don't buy them they're
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actually really bad for you they're made out of plastic so we should all stop wearing that
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actually honestly environment guys yeah we should wake up and you're touching on a topic i would
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have loved to spend the whole podcast talking instead we talked about a bunch of bullshit
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that i'm not well educated she's saying that women dress too promiscuously at the gym wearing a sports
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bra and shorts is too promiscuous them and overly sexual yeah women are like god made me like this one
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you guys can make your arguments just one at a time please go ahead women are like why is this guy
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looking at me when you're literally dressed in nothing but did any of us say that logic
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no we did not so you're just assuming but most women the question was what are your responsibilities
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as a woman in today's yes and i said not dressing promise yeah but women in india still get graped even
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if they're fully dressed what are your responsibilities what not men will are not
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literally names yes exactly yeah do you know how all stds came to be it's from men having sex with
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different animals like if we want to be real let's be real like hold on i'm gonna need a fact
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check honestly you guys like men are not something i'm pretty sure chlamydia came from like a dolphin
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or a cat or something it came from like monkeys or something everything came from an animal
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sexual intercourse with chimps from ben having sex with animals white men this could have been
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way much i mean i get her point some women do but those animals were naked so it's their fault oh my
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god yeah they looked at me she looked at me like this stop for a sec go ahead felicity i get your
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point there are some women that overdo it but i don't think it's really as common as you're making
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it seem to be like at all i go to the gym pretty often and i mean i just wear leggings and
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a t-shirt and i don't i'm not bothered if other women want to wear a sports bra or shorts or
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leggings it doesn't matter and it's not as common as you may think and you have every right to choose
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not to dress permissive yeah but my issue here is why do they complain about men who's staring at them
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the women who are so many women in this so many women are like little why why is this creepy guy
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looking at me but guys will still even even if you're attracted parties even like frat parties
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and they're like that parties that's like literally almost every woman gets raped by one of those yeah
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like okay guys like okay yeah like i get hit on even if i'm just wearing normal t-shirts and jeans
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i'm not saying she's wearing i'm not saying that i'm not saying that you wouldn't get hit on like
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i get hit on even i like staring at a woman who i don't take any who has like nice outfits
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workout ass outfits because i appreciate her being disciplined and being dedicated to her health
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routine yeah and looking good exactly can we watch your drift video we're allowed to love looking at
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people there's guys we're gonna watch her drift video and stop talking about it do you guys want to
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watch it yeah i want to see it and then you're drifting a car yeah um do you want to go home
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uh yeah well yeah we're just gonna skip that okay then i'll never see it uh i've been in tokyo and i've
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been on like the tokyo drift is real i got picked up in a lamborghini my friend and daddy and he didn't
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speak any english it was all japanese and we were rolling it was so much fun no it's because i ran from
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otis driftwood donated 30 dollars for your headache tonight oh thank you these degenerates chair one
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through four murder is not the answer you are promoting a horrible existence okay unaliving
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children is horrendous and murder okay thank you guys
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it doesn't make sense i think chauvinists are listening to this podcast it's like men want to
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have sex but who do you guys want to have sex with if you don't respect women brian's not even the
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best debater on his own show still crushed it tonight i did okay i did okay five seems cool though
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get yourself the fattest of burritos brian you've earned it thank you thank you very much thank you
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justin i appreciate it we have big sass energy thank you big sass energy donated we did uh pull
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up channing taylor please pull up an image side by side i still don't know who this rachel lady is
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like please break it down who is this rachel lady mary you see the name rachel uh google it really quick
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we'll pull up a picture for context thank you big sass energy we have beaten oh my goodness
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beaten cheeks 30 dollars oh my god i just woke up i haven't heard much pots and pans
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bossing ccp rep went from feminine to intolerable after divorce hence her divorce why do you think
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you deserve anything after being a boss babe what ccp mean that's the one of the chinese commune
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the chinese communist party the college of philadelphia is she went from wait the communist
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party thing i honestly was pretty blind i can't even read the subtitles i wish i had grabbed my glasses
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from my car i wish moving on that yeah what's your correction level is it like negative what no i
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mean i have my lasik but you have it okay pull it up rachel don't us all after lasik uh scroll up
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scroll up scroll up to this lady to pretend she was black she pretended she was black and no way
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there is a bit of a striking striking resemblance wait how did she pretend this is jewish hair
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that girl fakes her hair no but she's white she's but that's a fake perm she doesn't even have real
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curly wait that's a before and after picture of her that's crazy no i'm saying your facial structure
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looks like the facial features and your hair is similar to her now you just sound like every other
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ignorant person that's asked me if my dad's black like no i have jewish uh heritage so jewish
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people naturally like thick curly hair i said you look like a white woman so how would that be
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to be a black woman right that's an insult in in most of those photos that came up she looks black
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okay well i got she didn't even know who she was i know this i know who this all right hold on hold
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on moving on oh relentless phallus hey thank you man chair one is the evil version of chair five
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wow thank you she wishes wow ain't that something okay uh thank you for that one person's evil is
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the next person's normal right we live in an evil world uh oh this is below the threshold um what if
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you had only good experiences i suggest people it's below the threshold i'm sorry um it went away
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but what i will do steven villar floor thank you for the message i do appreciate it thank you thank you
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the many faced many for seed donated thirty dollars yeah chair one is pretty but still insufferable
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but she's young so hopefully she grows out of it unfortunately it's probably too late for chairs
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two and four too late for you guys follow a conversation yeah all right thank you for that
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appreciate it appreciate it have you had been under a lot of stress since the charlie kirk debate
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oh my god i got so many death threats it was wild wow and a lot of hate people tried to get me like
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it was just crazy i just got like yeah it was bad but you know what what doesn't kill you makes you
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stronger what doesn't kill you gets you potential death threats gotta love it energy donated thank you
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appreciate it man thank you one to four saying chair five wants to go back to the time when women
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couldn't speak while collectively speaking over her and trying to silence her opinion classic
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classic hypocrite feminist three hundred and so classic guys get them in we're gonna get this
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wrapped so get them in if you want final call final call on tts share one you remind me of my ex
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i lived with for four years you say he ran back to you but all i see is the term manipulating and using
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a man who's trying to grow and gaslighting him for your ego leave him alone wait i never i don't know
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what that person's talking about i never said anyone ran back to me me and my boyfriend are fine
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we've never broken up so i don't but good try what's the freaking zero to one seven donated thirty
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dollars who the fuck is this a dude did you get the nudes i sent in
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who's nude is that a guy please please don't send me nudes uh anybody please don't send me nudes um
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steven villafle donated thirty dollars what if you have had only good experiences i suggest people
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should attune to their lover instead of outside influences that modify their perceptions of what
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their relationship should be like only good and only good thank you steve okay steven oh okay
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pasty george denace george jeff five you are based on this panel for speaking the truth and
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stating common sense shares one two three and four were so triggered by your valid responses that they
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attacked you right away lmfao thank you it's just um crazy it's the fan base
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i believe that beaten cheeks i can't pull up this chat because no it's i'm probably sure a lot
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beaten cheeks i'll read it the the parts that are appropriate when chair
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when chair three speaks i feel my pots and pans are being dropped in my kitchen
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i can't read this part brian if you're being blackmailed into having ccp reps i'll help you out bruv
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oh the ccp is uh going after you tonight watch out yeah see she admits it they're not coming to
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drop your pots and pans they're probably gonna come over and burn your roof careful
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hey she's funny she's she's kind of funny not gonna lie she's got some jokes this is the part
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of the show that can prove chair one's whole world view wrong is how women will treat other women in
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social situations her views differ so let's dog pile and make her feel bad do you feel like they did
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that i do think that they were all speaking at once very loudly so i do agree with the dog pile
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thing but i don't they didn't make me feel bad see what you're doing you're going against the sisterhood
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and the sisterhood will not tolerate dissident opinions that's not the sisterhood is not strong
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with this one what i said was i wish we would have been talking about this on the entire show
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it's not she has an interesting perspective and i'm not saying she's wrong she's very valid in her
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points and her opinions are 100 valid i think it was worth a bigger conversation not a two second
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please put your answer out she's she's totally allowed to have her own opinions it's when she
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tries to force them onto all women that i have a problem with yeah oh wait how can i force by saying
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that all women's promiscuously by how can i it's not you forcing us to but that's what you just said
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i was doing because you're saying that we shouldn't be doing it you're saying i said that you shouldn't
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be doing something that would that's my own choice that would help you in the long run help me with
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what i'm getting a valuable man am i dressed super promiscuously right now not super but your tits are
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out so um the guy i'm with chose this outfit for me i mean under this shirt so that do you think he's
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a yeah what about celebrities he's a like mad gala so celebrities at mad gala and all those uh
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red carpet show they're all like promiscuous that's really sad wow it's a world i do i do
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think that promiscuity is sad i do i just think it's fine if you say that for you personally you
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don't want to be promiscuous and you feel that you're going to get more respect for that and you
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can say that about yourself but to enforce it onto other women is wrong i'm not forcing on i didn't
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say literally i said enforcing i'm trying to give you guys advice for wrong advice that makes me feel
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disgusting and offended not logic okay yeah i'm sorry that i made you feel bad but it doesn't
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mean you have to impose it on us that's what i'm saying i think you should brush your hair that's
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my opinion exactly yeah my hair does get messy after a little while yeah yeah that's a sign of respect
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are we done nope what is that almost almost there's the end music now can we roast each
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other i got you guys i know donated 30 thank you jordan women are for women as long as they agree with
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them as long as they don't try to impose their ideas onto me i'm for all women exactly i'm like this
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one over here hot cheese soup donated 30 dollars always got to be victims bricks and you get the new
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des what did you get the nudes he keeps someone keeps saying that they were sending you nudes so
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i'm yeah good talk uh melanova thank you underscorn over donated 30 dollars chair five gets it good
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on you girl those chicks that wear almost nothing and then act like they're surprised someone notices
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them you know what you're doing and that's why you're doing it thank you yes i'm proud this podcast
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is like giving you the recognition you want though because i wouldn't give it i would not give a
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fuck if they were disagreeing with me sure yeah but also who are watching this podcast what's the
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demographic like oh god uh that's what i'm saying very handsome single men rich chauvinists no very
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handsome men who deeply respect women who have huge penises and who are awesome and really cool and
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also super cool and have huge penises right and they're not gonna get divorced by the age of 30
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mic drop i think divorce is perfectly fine if you don't love the person and if you don't
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want to be with that person do you believe that divorce is wrong i do yes wow are you sure you're
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not mormon do you want to be mormon no i'm actually i'm christian i'm christian
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okay yeah probably fundamentalist christian wait that's like the mainstream catholic
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viewpoint that like divorce is yeah yeah but even but you've had sex before marriage it says it in
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the bible but you've had sex before marriage so you're going straight to hell i am a sinner and
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and you're a sinner and you're not a sinner well i don't believe in god so i'm not a sinner okay
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i don't play that game i hope god finds you one day i'm not a sinner we all are sinners that's your
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opinion yeah this is not a preaching session here so i think being the girls man i'm getting dog
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mild brian i'm getting dog mild i think being sexual and being open with your body and knowing
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who you are as a woman is something that god would appreciate that's why he made our bodies
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the clitoris has nothing to do but orgasm that's the only thing it's made for let me say really
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quick nothing else she can just if she wants you can just wait if you started all your sentences with
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for me personally i would have zero problem with anything you've said however it's the fact that
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you're trying to like make it seem normalized for all women when it's just you can't do that
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within the confines of her worldview what's actually wrong with making prescriptive claims
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about what should be or what she thinks is better for society like what's actually wrong with that
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it's the tone of voice she uses that tone oh did my tone hurt you i'm so sorry
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i mean i'm sorry i'm very pretty i'm so sorry
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not y'all been shitting on me i'm gonna shine you now go for it we're not shitting on you we respect
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the diversity of opinions like brian doesn't want us to be like a silent um podcast or just all sitting
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here like not again if you said otherwise how are how is he gonna get all the donations right
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by me saying it's your tone of voice i mean it's the fact that instead of saying in my opinion
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blah blah blah blah it's you saying like women shouldn't do this and this shouldn't be a thing
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and you guys have you been saying in my opinion yes literally yes yeah i respect the fact you're
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a christian but it doesn't mean that everybody has to follow the christian rules we all are at
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liberty to choose the way we want to live even if i wasn't christian i would still believe that
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promiscuity is bad for us our society okay i think you guys believe then what about all those men that
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like bad i'm glad i used the terminology that he likes having sex with each other who do they want
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to have sex with if the women are opening up their legs brian can we please continue oh you don't want
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the logic like if you guys have i just men want to have intercourse with people i just can't handle
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who are they going to have intercourse with a german bad state virgin like just the pure idiocy i
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just can't it doesn't make sense idiocy okay it doesn't make sense if we should both there then
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men should stay virgins also if you're accusing us of idiocy that means wait actually because she's
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of opinions she's not a virgin in the christian faith though they're prescriptively i think there is
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something chastity is valued in both men and women yeah yeah i also appreciate so it would be
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within the purview of her faith that virginity is like something that's valuable or chastity at the
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least here i gotta get through the rest of the chats though guys because we got what do you mean the
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rest there's a there's we have to do all of them we gotta do we're there we'll get there we'll get
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their marriage rights than women and women can enslave men have their passports revoked and have
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them arrested thank you trusty literal slaves that must work and can't leave okay we've heard that
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next trusty texan i appreciate your message here the girls really enjoyed your message
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pasty george donated thirty dollars thank you five is correct about women objectifying themselves
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for male attention and validation still when they get it from men they don't like they complain and
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post tiktok videos online about it well there's some of those crazy gym videos man toxic crazy gym
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one donated thirty dollars yo toxic thank you man five be proud and strong and loud what does 30
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mean area code it's an area code when you show them how pathetic their lifestyles are it's
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donated thirty dollars oh i'm a dude and they're getting sent i just got up bro don't don't do that
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please oh rude yo 90 bucks just to say that he sent you nudes well i think it was a different
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person that's no it's the same person one two three nine no donated turdin thank you man thank you
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thank you thank you chair three where the company name of lululemon came come oh my god the race
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came come oh it is yeah i don't know oh i the owner it was racist and he only did it because he
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asian women can't orientated donated thirty dollars it's a racist guy i've been where the ladies are
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two's aborts stripper military vet stabbed in the face sexual assault tbi survivor i'm a child of
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wrath but saved by grace my perspective is from both sides uh thank you for that one
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oh my god i'm so sorry you got stabbed in the face and all that other stuff that's scary
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was that was that genuine or yeah that's terrifying you got stabbed in the face
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pasty george thank you pasty george appreciate it thank you thank you the sisterhood was triggered
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again and very triggered they got very triggered incorrect very triggered against chair five you
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feminists are so pathetic and predictable not feminists oh well i get triggered when people are
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rude so was she rude though she seemed pretty nice with her i wasn't i wasn't rude to you until
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you guys were rude to me because you've just been disrespectful towards all women from the start
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i'm disrespectful because i disagree with your opinions it's not that you disagree with me it's
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that you hold disrespectful opinions i would actually i'm not gonna lie but it's okay
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enjoy that that's your opinion exactly brian said this is enjoyable to have this uh interesting
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interchange no no you asked me if if you just sat there and were quiet and just not agreed with
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everything i said i would actually but then you i can just argue with donations well with me i would
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just argue with maren then with me about yes brian you're right about everything about what big sas
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energy i don't know i forgot sharing an opinion of how she thinks certain behaviors would enable a
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better worldly outcome is the same thing you 304s have been doing classic dog pile sisterhood again
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thank you big sas not enforcing i mean it's hilarious gross donated 30 panzer tank chair one
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is gonna be a panzer tank within the next year or two i don't know what that means i don't know
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i guess that's probably mean so no i'm not beaten cheeks beaten cheeks donated thirty dollars
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i speak for a large part of the demographic when i say this we love women just not the high calorie
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feminist ccp type so you don't love the only thing liberal women are good for arm is debbie
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creamy specials oh okay yeah we won't go after him either oh fair oj simpson donated 30 dollars
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We didn't really have a moment like that tonight
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Well you didn't interrupt me as many times as Charlie Kirk did
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straight to my face so we've had him on the show by the way i would never want to look him
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um no i wasn't a little bit not really okay chair one i don't think the sun's real so i can't get
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sunburned lol never said that and i don't i have no clue so i'm trying to think gun crazed panda
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go back to your mom's basement thank you thank you panda appreciate it mom's basement wow are
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you gonna let her talk to you like that bro six five never apologize please don't send any more
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chats i really want to go home when degenerates tried to force their sick destructive ideas on
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society you fight back at every point the hypocrisy is laughable with digins
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bro you got all the republicans in love with you shoddy
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ladies all i hear is a bunch of coke c5 is based af the rest of y'all sound like a bunch of chicks
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clock harder wow good roast thank you man thank you thank you ashley
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three dollars chair five's worldview is correct now the sisterhood is tone policing another woman
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who disagrees or stands in line with them lmfao like we said it's not about them disagree
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man's peaks donated thirty dollars thank you i like chair five pay attention how chair one cuts
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her off and doesn't give another woman the same respect that she demands from herself hypocritical no
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i also got cut off paradoxical 119 donated thirty dollars thank you man seat five based af
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absolutely cooking seats one two three four cooking crushing the dog pie crushing the dog
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what happened to you everything you say is so angry and bitter you're a 50 year old cat lady before even
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hitting 20 i can't wait to be a cat lady world breaker donated thirty dollars prescription for
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society is women wouldn't be oppressive if the world would be run by women as we are oppressive to
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the woman who differs from my opinion congrats you've proven your own theory wrong i'm not being
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oppressive to her i'm just saying that she's being oppressive to women in general erin you oppressed
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i didn't though you oppressed her how however you did exactly i did not i literally just said that
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her opinion is oppressive towards women you mega oppressed her okay you giga oppressed her
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you super do one more you super oppressed her one more let's go super saiyan level three oppressed
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her okay i wish i did a little bossy there from maron okay here we go dodo burp dodo burp donated
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sixty nine dollars chair five is exactly my type the slightly disheveled hair the calm cool and collected
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attitude i'm sure in time you'll find the perfect man for you if you haven't already you're in a
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relationship i am in a i am already with my perfect man he's very happy very very happy you're like
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pretty much in the longest relationship here at the table three and a half years seven years
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you're tired girl you're 19 you haven't lived a life you haven't it's like good for you you're not in a
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relationship you're gonna break up in a couple months don't worry about it i don't know if he's
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gonna go for more than three and a half years it never works out like it it's like kid love
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maybe okay cheers police donated 30 dollars share the second of maybe a polish 10 but she's an
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alabama five and california raisin thank you what am what am i in like uzbekistan am i a 10 in
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uzbekistan what's that i think i'm a solid uzbekistan 10. i don't know where that is but
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go there and find out that's a different race that doesn't matter at all they might not even
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have women there i mean there's nothing to compare it's a different race yeah but i'm
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they're central asians okay then i'm a kazakhstan 10. where kazakhstan that's still like
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uzbekistan's neighbor i mean okay fine i'm a mongolian 10. but still there it's not the same
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i'm a tibetan 10. it's all perspective fine everyone has i'm a azerbaijan 10. you're just
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testing each other's geography yeah okay he's in a beholder yeah yes hot cheese soup donated 30
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dollars thank you hot cheese they think they have their social media i'll give a hint it's not
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empowered women supporting each other it's single men the difference is that on the whatever podcast
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they aren't despised what did i just not understand it it's too small snap more donated
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29 share for you are right dot they are tricky because you are pointing out a valid or claim
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dot these 304s are hopeless share to hide your gunt stfu walk tour no hope for this generation dot
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one and four gaslight sir i think he meant chair five possibly on that yeah he definitely meant chair
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thank you snap more durden one two three nine no donated thirty dollars what is the reason for
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men to get married so they could cheat that does not matter whatever they want like i don't know
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that doesn't really track they could trap a woman and have her stay in a house with the dishes and
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they could have a life whatever they do outside couldn't you cheat on a girl absent marriage they
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need they need someone to do the laundry they don't want to do the laundry they want to get a maid
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well apparently girlfriends are supposed to do the laundry on the first day go out and do whatever
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they want trust me they do all right the point of marriage for men would probably be so they can
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have children with and have rights to their children give their children their last name so mad at chair
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five when the question was literally their responsibilities about themselves i know you're
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grumpy but pay attention fool chair five is hotter anyways um whatever she didn't answer for
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herself though she answered for all of us how do you feel about that last comment though about chair
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five him him saying chair five is hotter that's that's a personal opinion that is just his personal
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opinion we have everyone can have opinions that is true call so kicker donated thirty dollars
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yours turn to this girl for sharing her opinion has been disgusting and you're saying the most
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soft-spoken person here has had a bad tone is beyond hypocritical dot y'all should be ashamed of
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yourself you spelt hypocritical and yourselves wrong sorry i just don't think you like what she said her
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tone sounded fine her tone to me came off as very like honestly derogatory towards women and that's just
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how i saw it and if it wasn't meant to be that way then sorry i heard it wrong it wasn't like she was
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being like a tone like aggressive tone it's the things she said the tone of the words she said would you
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characterize it as holier than thou yes is that the tone oh my gosh yes yeah yeah yeah that's a good
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way to put it do you want repeat the tone repeat what you said what does that mean it means you think
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you're holier than we are like you're just like a better person you think you have better morals
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do you think well i do agree with the better morals part yeah okay yeah i'm glad you think that
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but i do agree that my tone has been pretty normal and i don't know why you were attacking it but
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what's that noise pasty george donated 30 dollars thank you has been respectful during this entire
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podcast chair one how has chair five been disrespectful to all women your words she's
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been disrespectful to all donated 30 dollars guaranteed trump wouldn't even touch chair one
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he'd send her tiger and sherman tank gingerly to ukraine okay i don't know what that okay
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yikes donated 30 shout out to cga chair two looks like a busted can of billsbury biscuits
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i don't know what that means probably for the best toxic 61 donated 30 dollars chair two how does
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it feel sitting directly across from an actual 10 lol i did tell her she's a 10 and she didn't even
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appreciate that she didn't even realize that you you said you were a seven or six no i'm just i'm
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i miss said i i told her that she's a 10 actually i think you're very beautiful thank you and it takes
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it takes a lot for us women to look like this and it's a lot of effort and i appreciate that
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you think you think that this is an accident like you think this is premeditated baby like this
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is it okay okay i'm being cringe i'm being cringe i'm being cringe my bad
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donated thirty dollars the reason why the whatever podcast states that chair five is based is because
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her world view is correct final call guys we're gonna final call to chairs one to four stop being
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oppressive to her and her free speech last call last call i'm just saying you guys want
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final call she's religious so it makes sense that's why she has her opinions but again i said
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even if i wasn't christian i would still think that promiscuity is bad for us and i said i think right
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sorry to interrupt i said i think promiscuity should have been a larger part of our conversation topic
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not talking about ancient kings and queens or some of the other bullshit we talked about for
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eight or nine hours can i also just say if you had just said that you think promiscuity is bad for
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women or whatever like i would have understood that but it's the way you were like all these
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women go to the gym in a sports bra and they complain that men are doing this like they're so
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whatever it's the way you said it and it made me feel very uncomfortable i'm sorry it made you feel
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uncomfortable but um i don't actually know that was a joke but um my first statement was that promiscuity
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is bad and then i went into more detail as to why it's bad and why women think that they
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are able to just say like oh i'm such a victim when they're dressed like three oh foes i think
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okay it's just we don't know where that came from that's why maryn was sort of questioning you because
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it seemed like that you just brought it up for no reason as in the question you were i brought it up
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because that was the role that i think that women should but it wasn't about all women it was what role
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do you think you have for yourself so you could have just answered it for yourself but you
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decided to answer it for all women by saying that all women should not be bad for dressing
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promiscuously pointing her out and using us as examples it was rude so i don't you asked me for
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my opinion on you how is that rude you gave her your opinion on her without her asking
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do you think i'm dressed promiscuously uh yes i'm definitely dressed promiscuously well
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girl a white one down shirt and a skirt that covers everything i mean brian literally had to
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ask you to cover up i'm literally in shorts that go past my knees right now and i'm wearing a shirt
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under my shirt because it's too booby i didn't know we live in afghanistan and i'm sorry i have big tits
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so yeah can you give us some towels brian so you can cover us up you know what i actually have
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some burkas it might be better i'm sorry i forgot my nun costume at home i think we should all just
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start wearing burkas from now on this week that's not the worst idea oh sorry it contaminated your eyes
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they'll still my eyes my eyes are still whoever thinks uh this is too revealing
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oj simpson donated thirty dollars i am overly emotional and not listening to anything anybody
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says because no i am speaking also chair two we all know it's stank uh oj simpson thank you for the
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thank you for the message appreciate it big sass energy donated thirty dollars imagine policing the
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most monotone delivery in the history of the show such cunty behavior from chair one you lost you nasty
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there is no winning and losing in a conversation default your underscore clove five he donated thirty
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dollars chair one two three four all are the mainstream opinions take the red pill like chair
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five has we all had different opinions this whole time i'd take the pink pill please
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i don't understand really quick guys guys if you enjoyed the stream like the video like the video
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also join our discord discord.gg slash whatever if you want to get some merch we've got some great
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check if you have a prime sub available maybe you can check there's 1200 people watching uh check if you
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have a prime sub available drop us a prime if you have one guys it's 18 minutes i think it's bugged
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it's been 18 minutes since the last time we got a prime sub i do think it's bugged you know dream
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thank for the follow galaxy thank for the follow mr vol ds vol ds thank i don't know how to pronounce
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it thank you for the prime man i really appreciate it all right we have these soup chats then hopefully
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these should be uh chair one mid typical feminist chair two is a low class but desperate wannabe chair
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three talks but no substance chair four needs to learn to uh sthu and listen chair five are your views
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real or is it an act absolutely real okay uh dummy thick chair one respect to the consistency do you
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come from a debate background i do not i have no clue what i'm doing i think that's clear and i did
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not know i was going to be debating today at all okay we have john velaquette chair five answers and if
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the others disagree they respond with insults and hypocrisy w chair five john thank you for the
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soup chat i do appreciate it we have riptor with a big 50 thank you man chair five chair one excuse
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me women will never be in power because they orient their life around the idea of being comfortable
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men instinctively embrace and normalize discomfort as opposed to running from it and the simple reason
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is why they will always be on top okay from riptor your top
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okay thank you for that oh we have uh another one coming in here uh chair one you're in for a big
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awakening in life i don't think you're open to having your views changed chair five super super
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based forget about chair one she's bitter much love brian and crucible no andrew tonight uh yet no andrew
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tonight but i think we'll get a call in eventually i do have an interesting guest coming uh next sunday
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he's gonna be making his first time appearance uh pretty big getting a pretty big following on youtube
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he was on joe rogan uh pretty recently so we do have uh an interesting guest coming on june uh the next
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sunday so be sure to tune in for that guys like the video for you enjoyed the stream if there are any more
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coming through on we do have one more here from stream labs you can try to get a final one in here at
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the end here streamlabs.com slash whatever ashley thank you ashley 30 dollars see one your smug
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attitude tonight was disrespectful i meant what i said earlier in my house you would be so grounded
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right after i dog walked you to your room her behavior would see the back of my hand and your
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back of your hand would that's why you're something way worse from me because don't lay a hand on me you
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freak oh ashley she called you freak you're gonna let her actually is a freak you i she dog walked me
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to my room and ground me please kinky to be fair marin is six she is six foot tall i could beat your ass
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and she's built out of muscle steel and oh god can we move on sorry what you don't i'm trying to i'm
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trying to say something nice to marin at the end of the screen are you huh no he wasn't it does it's
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not coming off that way i'm the the the context is this this lady was saying she's gonna beat up
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marin and i'm like hold on marin's like she's six feet and you said she's made ice too that's a
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compliment to be made up look at the double bicep on from marin there at the end fucking guns blazing at
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the end here okay pasty george he says oh my god bro donated thirty dollars wait can you guys
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roast me roast me for like 30 seconds you see george only wants to glaze you your feelings don't
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matter and only come off as entitled and depressive you're feeling so matter constitutional right
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i wasn't listening sorry pasty george i don't care he's had so many i heard it he just said so many
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things it's like thank you pasty over and over again guys get a life final roast roast me
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final roast roast me no they're gonna roast me no final roast roast me the girls they got they got
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can i roast you nope i don't feel like i've been roasted at all they only said that you look like
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they told me i need to shut the heck up and listen like oh so so me wait you want to roast you want
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to be roasted yes i'm down to get roasted wait guys no i want to i've been bored we've talked about
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her once the whole time yeah hello she says a couple things and it causes a stir fry when really i just
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said we should have been talking about that more i know i was falling asleep for real
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yeah sylvana left lynn uh oh lynn on your instagram bio it says you plead guilty to being fabulous
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why not i love that i was just curious about it uh oh natalie natalia star i there's a couple tweets
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you wrote i'm we're not gonna pull it up but i'm just gonna blast through them 30 tts guys if you want
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to get in and roast me you wrote on your twitter is it weird that you're super into fingering men
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i like butt play i like disgusting i like to do a lot of things okay i like to look at
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whoa okay calm down uh you said you're hopeless romantic after your
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uh gang bang you want to be brought flowers okay something i would tweet you also said ladies how
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do you feel about a man who doesn't eat poon poon gay question mark that's what you wrote you wrote
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that you were just like that's yeah that's true
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uh is it a deal breaker just show of hands is it a deal breaker if the guy won't go down on you
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i mean it's disrespect deal breaker really lynn really lynn it's a deal breaker sort of yeah
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if you never reciprocate i've just felt like i have to throw up for like two hours
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well if you do do it on stream just kidding yeah i've had this cup empty next
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nobody ever brought us more water you said what you're supposed to beckon at felicity you're supposed
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to be like excuse me slave girl and go and get me some water and you have to do it in like that
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posh please excuse me they're all too shy but like i want something to do uh you also wrote small
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dick energy ramen noodle looking ass what does that mean ramen noodle looking at this when you have
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soft and you can't get hard and you're like oh you're noodle but i i do take offense to this this
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term small dick energy because i think you know look i think you don't take sorry sorry for
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interrupting look i'll say i'll say why i'll say what look i think we shouldn't shame people for
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things that are out of their control we shouldn't shame people no you don't get a control there's
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a way to inject your your pp to make it bigger they have they have those surgeries yes my friend
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has got that no yes there are there are those surgeries but i don't think men should get those
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surgeries i'm also against like if a woman has a large labia i don't think that she should chop that
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shit off uh i was about to say aren't you into that i thought you said that earlier she feels
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amazing a big labia didn't you say that you like that i do that's why i'm saying women shouldn't
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get the surgery to get rid of it because but besides just my own personal preferences with dating
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i do think it is unfortunate and i'm being serious here i know sometimes i tend to joke but
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it is an unfortunate state of affairs that and i want to caveat this some women do have like
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discomfort with it and they can you know so they're but discomfort in the terms of physical
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discomfort but a lot of women do it for purely cosmetic reasons and i don't think it's a good
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state of affairs that people feel so self-conscious with their physical appearance anywhere on their
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body that they feel the need to undergo dangerous and unnecessary unnecessary surgical procedures to
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fix something that really shouldn't be an issue so uh but with the small dick energy thing i want to
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run a couple uh terms by you what do you think about cavernous vagina energy what does that mean
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well you know small dick energy so cavernous like a cavern oh like big vagina no like
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the the the the vaginal canal is cavernous and we use this we use this as a word to insult women who
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we felt were unacceptable in some way so small dick energy that hurts your feelings the small
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dick energy hurts your feelings that's your personal problem right but i feel like i couldn't get a
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what like men could not get away with like they call us all the time she got small titty she got
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small titty energy small dick energy refers to lack of confidence lack of swagger like insecurity
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it has nothing to do with their actual dick size exactly but you're saying big dick energy is like
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some guy who's super confident really like knows what he wants and and is not afraid to go get it
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small dick energy is like being a which you could say is like being a vagina
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what but it's an insult that is okay whatever i'm not gonna linger on the look cavernous
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vagina energy just we all use slur words differently depending on where you're from
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i love that for you donated thirty dollars chair one even brian can easily toss you through the
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window wait why even stop talking nonsense even okay what are you trying to say george i could
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easily whip your ass but they should never put their hands on what they're saying next he's probably like
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under five seven pasty george i'll tell you um okay big sass energy big sass energy donated thirty
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it's more believable that rachel dolezal was black than that chair four will ever happily be in a
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relationship insufferable okay we have pasty george yes pasty pasty george we'll get her back
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we'll get we'll get really back five had more chances to speak on this panel because i wanted to
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hear more about her non-degenerate world views instead we got the idiotic feminist ideologies
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from the other chairs we'll get her back smh all right pasty george thank you man appreciate it
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conflict-oriented donated thirty dollars don't feel sorry for me being stabbed she was an illegal
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immigrant who stabbed me in the face whilst on my birthday corona bottle smirking face emoji bring me on
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i'm base thank you man appreciate it all right all right guys uh that's it for the show if there's
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any that like trickle through i'll get them but uh no wait what oh yeah yeah just stay seed for just a
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sec guys while we run through this um wait do you do sex work like only fans or no i hold the camera
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i produce and shoot content i work with sex workers i'm a sex work advocate a lot of my friends are
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sex workers okay well uh i do like to always at the end of the show do a call to action by seeing if we
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can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action would you consider stopping sex work
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entirely tonight i stopped five years in 2019 so i just got back recently 20 in december um would you
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consider stopping for what your soul you're meaning that i don't have a soul because i do this no you
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do have a soul but your soul must be saved i have no okay i tried i tried that's that's i have a soul
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and it's definitely enjoying everything i'm doing i do a lot of work i meditate i do breath work i do
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i've done yoga retreats i've done ayahuasca i've done my work i mean like slay queen yeah slay i did
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slay the dragon and i i know who i am and i know who i i know my worth and i will never get disrespected
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by men ever again i've got i've dated poor guys i've dated rich guys i've dated guys who hit me i've
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dated all that shit i i know i worked out and i will never settle for anything that is not what
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i want and i will never do a laundry for a man okay perfect good to know good to know okay gg well
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played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in
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tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you were here with me wow i appreciate that thank
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you to everyone who so generously super chats donates and supports the show this show is viewer
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supported we couldn't do it without you guys so thank you guys so much you guys are freaking
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legends you guys are he's a brave and all of you he's a pioneer and thank you everybody who watches
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of course we will be live again sunday 5 p.m pacific we've got a very interesting first time guest
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appearance uh sunday any girls who want to be on the show you can dm out whatever on instagram
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if you can make it to santa barbara uh and also if you guys need help with um laundering your money
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lynn does offer nope that's against the ethical rule lynn does not offer i don't money laundering
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i do honest services only honest work she has no complaints with the california bar are you licensed
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in any other california just california okay all right i do federal too reach out to lynn if you
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need any you know if any criminal defense nope i don't do criminal defense she will defend you if
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you committed any murders in the los angeles area she only she exclusively defends i'm just kidding okay
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all right i would need to make a clarification yes if you need any help with uh optimizing your
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financial position in terms of maximizing your tax savings either through corporate restructuring
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or through other tax planning strategies you can reach out to me or if you're in trouble with irs or
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franchise tax board i'm also the person to go to but right now there's no spin-off series uh better
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call in but hopefully in a couple years that's good there you go um i actually probably need to ask
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you a question about some tax stuff after the show so okay gotta retainer agreement okay lynn all
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right uh pasty george final thing pasty george donated that's a nice message thank you i want
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to thank the whole panel for showing up to this episode thank you brother have a good night
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yo thank you for having us oh sevens oh sevens in the chat i want to see it blast in the chat oh sevens in
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the chat i hope you guys have a wonderful night oh bro fucking daniel okay pull it over chair one
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do you really hate men that much that you're that jaded also looking at your hands you don't wrangle
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a thing except your dumb views you lucky andrew is not there ma'am daniel freaking of course an
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australian is gonna just we were ending it on a good note he's got to come in uh andrew is not there
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also one v one debate with chair one and miss wilson would you debate his wife no i don't all right
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okay all right fair enough okay thank you guys like the video please and let me just double check
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okay we're all good oh seven's in the chat good night guys we will see you guys next time good night