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00:04:45.080 hi my name is maryn career better known as like the no i'm speaking girl um i live in los angeles

00:04:51.900 california i'm 19 years old i go to university of rhode island i study psychology and that's it

00:04:58.520 and you're going into your uh junior year junior year you said psychology is you're saying okay

00:05:04.360 and in uh rhode island yes godhead okay are you originally from california though yeah i'm from

00:05:10.460 los angeles born and raised all right and you said you were famous for the no i'm speaking debate i

00:05:16.340 fought charlie kirk online i didn't even know who he was but i fought him online what was the process

00:05:21.960 for getting on that like you didn't know that he was going to be the guest i literally got it i got a

00:05:26.380 text message from i like applied for a jubilee video during covid and then two years later i got

00:05:31.860 a text message saying like hey this is like amelia or whatever from jubilee do you want to be in a new

00:05:38.040 video and i was like sure why not and i got there and there was a guy wearing a suit and everyone was

00:05:42.580 like oh my god that's charlie kirk and i was like i don't know who that is and then i sat down i looked

00:05:48.620 him up and i was like oh my god he's on a stage with donald trump i don't know what i'm gonna do

00:05:53.340 and then i couldn't contain myself and i argued with him about abortion rights and i went viral

00:06:01.040 for that so what was the viral moment from that specific um he interrupted me one too many times

00:06:07.200 and you know it's not it wasn't just me trying to be annoying like i do that with lots of people

00:06:13.040 he just kept talking over me and so i just repeated the same sentence over and over again which was no

00:06:19.360 i'm speaking and i went viral for shutting him down for speaking too much over me what wasn't there

00:06:26.700 like as you were finishing up that segment didn't you say something else what did you say to him as

00:06:31.680 you were getting up i said and you know what people people asked me if i meant it i did mean it i said

00:06:37.120 i said i hope your daughter lives a very happy life which is a nice thing to say and gets away from you

00:06:44.680 which i think you know he was upset about and whatever however you know if his daughter does

00:06:52.640 have i didn't know he had a daughter when i was doing the hypothetical question but you know if his

00:06:57.840 daughter does get raped i hope she lives a very happy life and gets away from charlie kirk because he

00:07:04.960 doesn't want her to be free from that okay and um um hold on what was the other thing oh so did they

00:07:16.640 provide you the prompts beforehand they during the interview they asked me like a couple questions like

00:07:23.060 what are your views on abortion or what are your views on like black on white crime or discrimination

00:07:28.400 or whatever and i answered and then they told me like okay it's gonna be you verse one conservative

00:07:34.740 they did not give me a name they did not give me any other information so i went in knowing like what

00:07:41.260 the vibe was gonna be but i knew it was 25 college students verse one person and i didn't know who the

00:07:46.760 person was gonna be i was a little bit surprised to know it was a grown man in a suit who has been a

00:07:54.120 political candidate and who has debated multiple college students so that was a little bit unnerving

00:07:59.380 but i'm proud of what i did okay what about you um i'm natalia star i'm an adult industry and a dj

00:08:09.040 and i'm 32 years old and i didn't go to college i graduated high school and where are you from oh i'm

00:08:17.900 polish i grew up in poland but i immigrated to new york city so i grew up in new york grew up in new york

00:08:23.760 and you are uh you're 32 when did you immigrate to new york city um in 2000 2000 so when uh

00:08:32.220 oh okay so you were very young then when you met well you would have been what 10 or so wait hold on

00:08:38.680 see if my math here i don't remember it's like seven or eight or something like that okay got it

00:08:43.760 you speak uh it's polish polish yeah okay got it what about you hi everyone my name is lynn i'm from

00:08:51.020 los angeles but born raised in china i'm a corporate and tax attorney age i'm 29 years old

00:08:57.580 29 and how long have you been in the u.s so uh i moved to the u.s in 2013 so it's been 12 years yes

00:09:06.260 and you've stayed here the entire time yes uh actually i was living in washington dc for my first

00:09:11.100 two years but spent my majority of my time in los angeles got it okay and um you have or have you

00:09:18.800 become a citizen or yes gotcha okay and you said you're a corporate and tax attorney yes so you know

00:09:25.540 who to reach out to if you ever have a tax and corporate problem do you work with a law firm are

00:09:30.000 you like a sole practitioner what's the term for today uh i'm a affiliate sole practitioner is that

00:09:35.400 what it's called uh maybe that'll be my goal one day but right now i'm working for a firm gotcha

00:09:40.720 and uh you went here in the i'm assuming you went here in the united states for your law degree

00:09:45.620 yes you have a jd yes so i actually did my undergrad at usc and then went on to get my jd

00:09:52.980 where did you go for law school um chapman so it's in orange county okay that's a pretty good law school

00:09:59.220 right i think so um yeah i think uh i just went for the full right scholarship okay um so growing up as

00:10:06.620 a poster child i guess i wanted to save my family more money so gotcha and did you um are your parents

00:10:12.840 still in china or did they move here too um my parents they are spending most of their time in

00:10:17.520 china but they still come to visit me what part of china are you from so fun fact usually people

00:10:23.760 ask me okay which part but it's the closest big city is not beijing or shanghai but it's south korea

00:10:30.160 it's near south korea yeah and i actually i found i'm 16 korean through 23 and and me the dna test

00:10:37.400 okay there you go which i wasn't aware of before what what's the city um it's a smaller city called

00:10:43.020 yantai no way why i've been there no just kidding okay wow um but the funny thing is whenever i say

00:10:51.740 it's like a smaller medium-sized city you don't know but actually has six seven million population

00:10:57.280 because it's china yeah well that's what i've heard with china there's like how many cities that

00:11:03.500 have over like a million people it's yeah i mean one million that's like a rural town probably

00:11:10.180 that's the sticks in china okay and okay so you moved here uh when you were younger you've been here

00:11:17.880 ever since um all right cool what about you my name is kaylin may i'm a boudoir photographer

00:11:25.480 originally from reading pennsylvania and i went to college in philadelphia for an associates in

00:11:32.620 photography and then graduated here in santa barbara from brooks institute with a bfa in

00:11:37.580 uh fine art photography age 35 got it okay all right well uh and did you do any like undergrad or

00:11:48.560 anything or uh in philadelphia got my associates in um professional photographic imaging okay got it

00:11:57.360 what about you my name is silvana i was born in argentina living in los angeles for over 30 years

00:12:04.480 i am a piano teacher concert pianist and uh that kind of i did it all my life but i slowed down with

00:12:12.340 covid and after the death of my husband so i needed to do something else and i became a flight attendant

00:12:17.880 so i am a flight attendant and i am piano teacher and i am based in denver denver age i am 47 years old

00:12:28.280 all right i'm old what's your uh what's your go-to piano piece to uh what was the question uh you said

00:12:37.200 you're a concert pianist classical classically trained what's your like favorite piece to play

00:12:42.580 well my very favorite piece to play is the g minor ballad written by ferric chopin i i feel very

00:12:50.000 related to ferric chopin and i believe it has to do that i was very lucky to be part of that line of

00:12:58.720 musicians because my teacher studied with alberto williams alberto williams studied with george

00:13:03.720 matthias in france and george matthias was the favorite student of ferric chopin so

00:13:08.980 they guide me through that line of beautiful music okay very cool very cool do we have keyboards

00:13:17.800 maybe we'll have her play something or i don't know that would be my pleasure all right what about

00:13:23.580 you thank you for having me my name is hayley i am 20 years old i am a wsu student and i am studying

00:13:33.160 finance all right and i'm from san cruz california got it sorry what was the name of the university

00:13:39.140 uh washington state university i see okay got it all right my name is felicity i'm 19 from santa

00:13:47.200 barbara i'm a full-time student majoring in business all right welcome everybody we're going

00:13:52.900 to go around the table once more what is your current relationship status so single talking stage

00:13:59.280 relationship married if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:14:03.160 relationship you've ever been in um i have a boyfriend right now almost six months but the

00:14:08.640 longest relationship i've been in was eight months with my ex-boyfriend longest relationship eight

00:14:13.640 months okay and uh six months so did you meet him on the charlie kirk jubilee shoot or no no um

00:14:20.280 i knew him since senior year of high school and i had a huge crush on him all of senior year all of

00:14:25.240 freshman year and then sophomore year of college we started dating he lives near me in la and we just

00:14:31.980 knew each other for a while is it you you said you go to school in rhode island though so has it been

00:14:36.380 long distance for a period of time it has he goes to school in texas and i go to school in rhode island

00:14:41.520 but thankfully we're able to like at least once a month see each other for a weekend we call every

00:14:47.560 single night um and again i've known him for like two plus three plus years so i love him so much and

00:14:54.700 he's living with me for the summer so we're making it work oh you guys live together yeah are you uh

00:15:00.400 are you currently at your parents place or you have your own yeah no i'm at my parents place but

00:15:06.180 he lives with me at my parents house because his parents house is a little bit smaller and so my

00:15:11.020 parents are chill with him living with me and you just got back to you're in la right yeah you just

00:15:16.160 got back to la yeah so i go to school in rhode island and then he got off like a week after i did

00:15:22.020 and then he's just been living at my house so he just basically moved in like a couple weeks ago

00:15:27.260 or yeah okay and was this like you brought this to your parents and they're cool with it or my parents

00:15:33.900 know that since i'm grown they can't really stop me from doing things anymore like they set boundaries

00:15:39.200 but he's fine if he sleeps over and i love him so much so he's fine does he get like the guest room

00:15:46.340 or he's he's with you in your room yeah he's in my room and but like did you ask your parents if it

00:15:52.080 was cool or i kind of just told them like hey just so you know my boyfriend who they know and they

00:15:58.260 like him sure he he doesn't want to stay at his dad's apartment because it's in the valley and he'd

00:16:04.840 rather just stay here most nights and they said that's fine they're cool with it yeah okay all right

00:16:09.640 and uh what about you uh i'm recently single since may 6th uh my longest relationship was like two

00:16:17.560 years i'm sorry you've been single since may oh so like three three weeks or one month and you said

00:16:26.400 longest relationship two years okay but most of them are like six months most of them when you say

00:16:31.700 yeah good question four or five two-year relationships no for six months excuse me one was the two years and

00:16:39.080 then the rest were six months the most recent one was six months yeah okay uh the most recent

00:16:43.720 relationship who broke up with who i broke up with him okay the two-year relationship your longest

00:16:48.260 who broke up with who i broke up with him and then going back to you maryn the eight-month relationship

00:16:52.260 who broke up with who i broke up with him okay all right all right my what about you my relationship

00:16:58.460 status is kind of uh complicated right now because i have been separated from my husband since 2023

00:17:03.680 three but we met each other in 2016 and i think it was the seventh year that we decided to call it

00:17:11.820 quit so we're currently going through a divorce proceeding okay and of course he's been my longest

00:17:18.620 relationship for seven years seven years okay how long have you been separated um for like a year and a

00:17:26.640 half all right have you seen have you been dating anybody else in that time period um i you mean

00:17:33.340 since i got separated yeah in the past year and a half oh definitely yeah are you currently involved

00:17:38.720 with somebody currently no i'm fully single properly single yeah probably single i'm enjoying it is he

00:17:44.840 also an attorney no he's an engineer he's an engineer okay did you guys have a prenup yes how long

00:17:52.160 were you guys married so uh i mean we're technically still married um so we've been married since 20

00:17:59.520 like end of 2017 so it's been a long time been a long time okay oh you've been sorry you've been

00:18:06.720 married since 2017 2017 yeah but we had the wedding in uh the summer 2018 okay and how long are you guys

00:18:15.920 dating before you got married it was fairly quick uh we dated for about a year and three months and then

00:18:21.900 he popped the question then we got married legally a month after okay wait a month after you were

00:18:28.920 no a month after the engagement we got married i see okay how did you have the question it was kind

00:18:34.940 of a long story yeah who initiated the divorce uh i think it was like a mutual decision um as we just

00:18:42.440 spend more time together we realize we're not the best fit uh also uh i think just we have very

00:18:49.540 different personality communication styles and interests and pursuits of life uh and also i have

00:18:55.360 to acknowledge that i was very young when i got married like when i met him i was 21 years old

00:19:00.460 and i have had like some milestones in my life i have changed a lot i became more independent

00:19:07.560 opinionated even um so yeah how old was he when you guys met uh his age yeah so he's 10 years older

00:19:15.740 so he was 31 and you are 21 21 yeah at the time okay um and he was an engineer you said uh software

00:19:24.060 engineer what kind of engineer um like civil civil engineer uh is he uh was he chinese also or no he's

00:19:31.840 from the east coast so he's american white american yeah okay did he help you pay for law school no um i

00:19:39.620 my law school education was free oh it was free yeah because i got a scholarship you got scholarships

00:19:44.400 yeah okay gotcha all right so you guys were married um let's see here uh who who initiated

00:19:53.260 the divorce though somebody typically has to do the filing yeah so i was the one that uh contacted

00:19:58.620 the attorney uh who did the petition for me okay and of course um subsequently he secured his own

00:20:06.040 attorney as well see all right and uh was he caught off guard or did he kind of see this coming um

00:20:13.600 i i i think during our multiple arguments i have made it very clear that it's gonna be the path we

00:20:20.320 will take so i think he was probably prepared um yeah it wasn't um something like i thought of just

00:20:29.180 overnight but it was a careful decision i wanted to make a while ago all right and um was the divorce

00:20:37.400 acrimonious acrimonious i would say it's amicable um i wouldn't say like we're enemies because it's

00:20:46.140 really hard to just detach from someone after spending like almost your entire 20s together

00:20:51.820 so was there is there any alimony um i mean i honestly i'm financially dependent so i'm not looking

00:21:01.820 forward to receiving like alimony because i'm not trying to like profit from a divorce um so i think

00:21:09.660 it's all up to the negotiation between the attorneys okay um but do you know has your when you've spoken

00:21:17.400 to your attorney has your attorney talked to you about art like seeking alimony um i think it was in

00:21:24.880 the prenup but but also the thing is uh our financial situation has changed quite a bit since we got

00:21:30.320 married so i think that's still something not settled at this stage what under the terms of

00:21:35.520 the prenup what was the uh what was the deal with alimony it's actually kind of vague i wish uh i mean

00:21:43.420 i had an attorney after law school um so i just said up to this amount of money but of course since now

00:21:51.340 we're making pretty similar amount of money then um i think it won't be exactly what is written in

00:21:57.680 prenup i'm sure the attorney is going to have some back and forth like negotiations about all the

00:22:03.920 terms you're saying that currently your guys's income is pretty comparable it's similar i would say

00:22:10.720 like pretty similar maybe he's still like higher but not that much significantly higher okay and um

00:22:19.100 could he potentially are you out earning him um no he still makes more than he still makes more okay

00:22:25.600 yeah all right got it and you said that you uh one of the reasons why you guys started to grow apart

00:22:31.160 is you became more opinionated uh i guess in what ways did you become more opinionated i think in his

00:22:38.320 words which i don't completely agree he thinks uh we are both trying to be the boss but i feel like it

00:22:44.420 should be an equal relationship we both should have the say in the relationship but i think he usually

00:22:49.820 like to take the lead but after i have had my own education my own career um i wanted to participate

00:22:56.700 more um like in decision making um and also i think fundamentally just because as i grew older i

00:23:04.720 realized oh we just really have very fundamentally different values uh and pursuits and interests which

00:23:11.060 i didn't realize when i was younger um and ever since the marriage i realized okay if you want to be

00:23:17.600 compatible together you can't just be going on going on vacation all the time but you gotta spend like

00:23:22.400 difficult times together as well to see if this person is the right fit gotcha what were some of

00:23:28.180 the you said you wanted more equal stake when it came to uh decision making in the relationship can

00:23:33.980 you give me maybe one example where in the relationship there was a conflict as it relates to

00:23:40.120 a decision that maybe you guys disagreed on um i think uh maybe financially i grew up in a culture

00:23:49.200 where men should take more lead in financial affairs so when we bought the house together of course i mean

00:23:55.520 we paid like half and half uh but then as for like daily expenses um like insurance property tax and

00:24:02.180 uh like renovation i believe the men should take on more responsibility so we had some arguments over

00:24:08.160 that um and then i think just in terms of like um i cannot think of like a concrete example right now

00:24:16.120 i may have to think through it uh but he often just thinks like things have to go his way um and if i want

00:24:24.980 to make a suggestion and he would be defensive he would say oh you're trying to change me and i'm not

00:24:30.880 going to change for you um so yeah it's pretty complicated i would say like like different factors

00:24:37.680 are contributing one point of clarification you said that as you got a bit older you wanted to

00:24:42.800 take on a bit more uh have a bit more equality when it came to leadership in the relationship although

00:24:49.380 you said that when it came to financial components you guys paid 50 50 when it came to the mortgage and

00:24:55.260 maybe the down payment is that correct but when it came to the household expenses you had an

00:24:59.480 expectation that he cover that fully um i guess there's a bit of confusion on my end oh why on one

00:25:08.800 hand you say i want to take on more equal responsibility in terms of leadership but you

00:25:14.360 are still holding him to he should pay for yeah i think it would depends on um like which aspects so

00:25:24.400 in terms of like financial responsibility um because at that stage when we bought the house he was

00:25:29.440 making a lot more money i was fresh out of law school so i figured he is 10 years older than me and

00:25:36.100 he's well established in his career so he should probably contributing more um to the expenses but

00:25:42.060 of course that's i don't think that's like a fundamental issue for us i think the more fundamental

00:25:46.860 issues are like when we are um going through um like for example just going on vacation or just

00:25:54.220 handling like daily affairs he probably should let me participate more um or help out more be more

00:26:00.640 supportive in things gotcha okay maybe we can come back to that uh is this the only time you've been

00:26:07.000 married yes do you have kids no no kids okay gotcha and then well uh since the separation a year and a

00:26:14.560 half ago have you been dating any other men yes or what uh what was the longest period of time you've

00:26:19.820 dated a guy since the separation yeah i don't think um nothing was too serious even though i did um

00:26:26.680 kind of hope it would lead into something uh i think the longest was just about close to six uh no

00:26:31.720 close to three months okay here just go that way from now on okay um all right what about you

00:26:39.640 i am single i've been single for quite some time my longest relationship was with my high school

00:26:47.060 boyfriend he was older he was not in high school anymore um and it was a year and a half longest

00:26:53.200 relationship you said a year and a half okay and you've been single for how long most of my adult

00:26:59.700 life i mean i live very far from my parents and so what i'm saying i've never changed my facebook status

00:27:05.040 to say in a relationship and i've never brought or introduced anyone to my parents in the traditional

00:27:10.700 sense of publicly dating so i've had plenty of like mini relationships but i wouldn't say i ever was

00:27:17.760 introduced as oh this is my girlfriend so okay um so you when was your year and a half relationship

00:27:26.300 when i was in high school 16 to 17 and a half how old was he 21 to 23 is that i think that's a yikes

00:27:35.940 that might be that might be a bit of a yikes oh you're saying you're in a state where the age of

00:27:41.820 like i started dating him when i was 16 so that was a consensual my parents approved 21 you were 16

00:27:50.020 okay um but since then that so that relationship ended when you were 18 correct 17 and a half you've

00:28:01.460 not had any relationships no relationships where i was officially dating um okay hold on i need to go

00:28:20.020 flash okay um have you had situationships i've had a number of situationships okay some were fun

00:28:34.920 some were horrible but what's the longest situationship you've had two years two years

00:28:42.660 but you guys weren't boyfriend and girlfriend no never went anywhere in public okay didn't go on trips

00:28:47.560 together didn't do holiday gifts birthday gifts didn't hang out with each other's friends all right

00:28:53.560 are you currently involved with a guy in some capacity no there's no guy in the picture

00:28:57.740 no guy you're seeing even casually sneaky link depends what city i'm in

00:29:03.740 are you an escort no but i grew up on the east coast i travel often and so i have friends that i see in

00:29:13.140 different cities when i'm there but it's not like i plan the trip to see them it's like hey i'm in

00:29:17.980 town you want to go get dinner if i sleep with them afterwards you know what i mean there's someone

00:29:22.540 i've known a long time okay um so there's no guy currently though in the picture what there's when's

00:29:29.460 the last local situation ship you've had local situation ship in la a couple years

00:29:38.880 okay so you've been have you been uh are you celibate no i just have the absolute worst dating

00:29:45.720 luck out of anyone you've probably ever met when's the when's the last time you uh hung out with a

00:29:54.220 guy in a romantic about a month month and a half ago okay so so you've been celibate for a month and a

00:30:02.240 half yeah i don't think i've had sex this month okay um are you wanting to get married or have

00:30:09.560 kids or anything like that uh i'm not sure if i've missed the boat on that or not yet it's still a

00:30:14.880 you know whether or i would like ideally in an ideal world to find a partner and get married

00:30:21.480 and whether i adopt a child or they already have children is like i don't feel the need to birth a

00:30:27.480 baby like and have my dna like doesn't feel like something i absolutely have to do but like i'm

00:30:34.680 not against it i would have kids so if it happens if i'm but i'm not going to be a single mom i'll be

00:30:39.180 the first one in line i've watched enough of my friends get pregnant end up single moms multiple

00:30:44.760 baby daddies count me out gotcha okay and uh let's see here uh have you ever had a roster

00:30:51.840 definitely how what's the biggest the roster's ever been maybe five five guys i like that

00:31:00.560 restaurant that means five guys at once no it means like there's five guys in your phone book

00:31:05.260 that you might send a sexy photo to and make plans to see at some point in the upcoming month but

00:31:11.260 one guy might be out of town the other guy might be out of town not dating no period

00:31:17.820 all right um and uh when's the most like you don't have a roster now though it's it's really not

00:31:29.540 no it's dry it's dry yeah we're it's a dry roster okay it's open season and then summertime you got to

00:31:36.360 clear out your roster and start fresh in the summer and then just moving back this way for a moment um

00:31:41.520 have you ever had a roster uh i don't think so no like so you kind of talk into multiple yeah that's

00:31:47.060 one thing i kind of dislike about the american culture i mean guys would hit on like multiple

00:31:52.180 girls like send them booty calls but normally i like to focus one guy like a primary guy um but

00:31:59.600 maybe there's a sidekick somewhere it all depends there's a sidekick somewhere okay what does that

00:32:04.840 mean um like i would try hard to make it work with the primary guy but then it doesn't always work out

00:32:12.440 so there's someone probably in the back corner like hoping something would happen and i would still

00:32:18.060 have some hope that it may develop between me and that sidekick guy have you ever had like a friends

00:32:24.740 with benefits or uh i guess like just very short time short term yeah okay ever had a roster

00:32:31.500 yeah totally how big was your roster uh when you did have one i guess

00:32:36.780 um yeah depends what city i'm in for sure um at least like five or six different at the same time

00:32:47.020 five to six yeah how many do you have a roster currently yeah i have a couple guys i could hit

00:32:53.540 up a couple guys i want to like but i also shoot content so i'm just making sure like we could also

00:32:59.020 like record it when you say you have a couple guys you could hit up though are they civilians

00:33:02.340 no they're usually guys in my industry or guys who have a have you shot who have you shot with

00:33:09.040 like any big names or yeah totally johnny sins yep is that one of the guys that you can hit up for

00:33:15.920 i literally was in love with him my first scene i was with him and when we did a scene i was like

00:33:20.060 oh my god that's gonna be my man that's your man there you go but yeah we could used to hook up

00:33:25.520 in like in our private life but not not recently you know maryn uh ever had a roster no no roster

00:33:32.440 no okay i've never had a roster i mean like i guess there's there's some guys like i knew that

00:33:39.280 if i asked them to they'd hook up with me but i've never like kept a roster or tried to hook up with

00:33:44.620 people got it and then going back around the table uh orientation what do you mean uh straight

00:33:51.680 bisexual oh like i guess i guess to make it easy i'd say bisexual but i don't really care or no

00:33:59.340 so far i've like have you dated any women so far i've only liked or hooked up with men and women

00:34:05.880 but i've never like tried to explore anything different i don't really care that much so i i

00:34:12.200 would say mainly i've only dated two guys so straight but i'm open i don't know of your kind

00:34:19.160 relationships they've been with men yeah but like you have had like a fling with a woman is that

00:34:24.760 fair to say yeah yeah i've hooked up with women what about you i'm trisexual i'll try anything

00:34:29.380 yeah trisexual i'll try anything once at least well you're saying like she says she's open to

00:34:38.240 anything whatsoever i like fluid men you're bi but she'll also do all kinds of interesting sexual

00:34:44.260 acts i guess i'll be with i'll i'll hook up with a trans pansexual okay there you go there you go

00:34:50.100 but i don't know i don't i don't follow those kind of things i'm just like i'm an energy person so if

00:34:54.820 i like an energy if i like what if a tree has good energy i i would masturbate with it because we

00:35:00.900 i masturbated with the moon before huh you had like you know on the on the bleach like and the moon

00:35:07.280 i like they're like dating the moon no just masturbated with it with it it was like mutual mess

00:35:14.900 like you felt a vibe with yeah i felt the moon it was a full moon

00:35:18.100 the freaks come out you know what i mean no i had like a like a light directly like coming

00:35:24.800 it was the full moon yeah right now you just felt the vibes because we did have a girl on the show

00:35:30.540 who was involved with a tree so i don't know i don't know i need to have the consent for sure

00:35:36.380 uh romantically like touched it yes oh okay grinded up on it i don't know i don't know if trees can

00:35:44.000 consent i don't think i give it a hug i'm a tree hugger yeah um orientation straight by um okay very

00:35:51.820 simple i'm straight even though i do like staring at pretty girls on the street you like staring at

00:35:56.340 pretty girls on the street okay all right scrutinizing their uh their fashion scrutinizing

00:36:01.560 or appreciating depends on how um how they wear gotcha uh and orientation uh i go with straight

00:36:09.540 i definitely have had experiences with women and only humans but um only humans only humans no trees

00:36:17.260 for me good that's good but as far as dating i don't have any interest in dating a woman so i feel

00:36:23.800 like i still prefer the male anatomy all right what about you i am a widow sorry huh oh widow widow

00:36:32.380 got it okay yes and uh what's your orientation um i am 100 straight 100 straight okay yes and uh

00:36:41.060 you were married how many times so i was married three times uh my first husband is my best friend

00:36:47.620 today how long uh let's do a timeline here can you tell me uh at what age did you start dating him

00:36:53.480 yes i started dating him when i was 17 years old okay and then when did you get married i got

00:36:59.480 married when i was 19 and then how long were you guys together five years uh you were married five

00:37:04.440 years yes gotcha so you got divorced at 24 yes around that time yeah and then did you initiate the

00:37:11.040 divorce actually we separated and i didn't have the money for the divorce but he initiated it like

00:37:17.980 two or two years later after we separated okay gotcha and then you were single for a period of time i was

00:37:23.800 single for about seven years and then you met your second husband who died of a stroke

00:37:29.880 and um so how old were you when you met your second husband well so i was 32

00:37:37.980 because i got divorced at 25 my first husband so 32 i would say a little closer to the mic i'm sorry

00:37:45.220 32 years old 32 when you met and how long were you married a couple of years and then you divorced

00:37:50.240 or well wait no you're with widowed from him yes no no no no no i'm not we don't know we're

00:37:56.220 he died and then i married a third time that was my the love of my life and i was married the last 10 years

00:38:01.900 okay so my third husband died in 2020 and i got married in 2010 i was married 10 years no actually

00:38:11.460 i got married with him in 2012 wait so two of your husbands are dead yes the second and the third

00:38:18.020 but and the second one he died while you were married or after the divorce no no second one i was

00:38:24.400 with him he died of a stroke okay gotcha yes and then i married my third husband who who is the love of

00:38:30.340 my life i married him on 2012 oh okay so only wait yeah but he passed away too he passed away in 2020

00:38:38.160 okay saving my daughter's life oh um what was there what happened what happened what was the it's a long

00:38:47.660 story i mean if you let me tell you it's going to take me a good five minutes i love to tell this

00:38:52.140 story but i don't want to be taking me give me like the the 30 second plot synopsis version it'll be very

00:38:59.620 hard very hard i think i would need at least a minute maybe tell us the uh saved her life from

00:39:07.400 what from the world of drugs so my in a couple of worlds my daughter was in drugs for a long time

00:39:15.220 and we did anything you can imagine under the sun to help her whatever you come up with we did it

00:39:20.840 until we couldn't do any more and it was affecting our life our marriage our finances our everything

00:39:27.160 so that's when we decided to move away literally to save our lives and we moved to the other side

00:39:32.280 of the country to to to live away from her because she was she would be in our house constantly and

00:39:37.040 she was a woman 20 plus 25 years anyways a little story short we moved to north carolina from los

00:39:42.380 angeles to north carolina and we lived there the 10 years that we were married those were the best 10

00:39:46.960 years of my life with the love of my life until i got a phone call i thought that she was going to put

00:39:52.480 herself together now the mama was gone because i was told you give her too much you always take care

00:39:58.100 of her leave it alone she's going to figure it out but she didn't i still can believe that she didn't

00:40:03.500 when she was by herself but she didn't so i got a phone call 10 years after and that was in 2020 i got

00:40:10.740 this phone call telling me we saw your daughter in the corner of venice and sepulveda in a community

00:40:16.600 of drug addicts and i almost fainted when i heard that my husband grabbed me he grabbed the phone

00:40:23.980 and he said do not call again giving those news he hung up he looked at me and he said honey we

00:40:31.200 walked away to be happy and look at you and i said honey i can't help it so he said i'm going to

00:40:38.120 la i'm going to go to your daughter he went to la december 5th 2020 that was a wednesday no excuse me

00:40:46.440 december 2nd 2020 he died in december 5th he went on december 2nd that was a wednesday so here comes

00:40:52.940 the end of the story he landed at lax he picked up the rental car he went straight to venice and

00:40:59.520 sepulveda to find her after those 10 years that we walked away and he did he found her he put her in a

00:41:06.840 hotel he took care of her she took a good bath she looked terrible 90 pounds looking the worst you can

00:41:13.780 imagine he always gave me the news what was happening the next day thursday december 3rd he

00:41:21.560 called me he took her to get her nails done her feet facial he was getting pretty december 4th he

00:41:29.620 took her to the mall gave her the credit card leave her he left her there she got up at the end of the

00:41:36.000 day full of you know makeup and underwear and clothes she was so happy and december 5th the fourth day

00:41:43.080 that she was with her and he was talking to her about going to rehab and then he told me we're

00:41:50.180 going to make a deal i'm going to make a deal with you my wife he said that's the only thing we didn't

00:41:54.800 do and i said what deal i'm going to put her on rehab but if she doesn't accept you're going to let

00:42:00.340 go and i said me yes you as a mother you're going to let go we're going to change our name our address

00:42:06.660 we're going to be private she will never find us and you will never look for her we need to be happy

00:42:11.600 but if she doesn't accept i'll put her in rehab and i'll pick her up myself on the last day we bring

00:42:18.740 her to our home and we get her on on her feet and i said deal that's why he came to la well that

00:42:25.480 saturday he called me and he told me honey monday she's going to rehab i couldn't believe it because

00:42:32.700 she never accepted that after many years so i said honey i'm never going to be gonna it's not it's

00:42:40.560 never going to be enough to love you and to thank you for what you're doing with my for my daughter

00:42:44.360 for my daughter i hung up and that's the last thing i told him he went to the hotel where they were

00:42:51.180 sharing the same room to save money my daughter told me that she went to bed at 8 30 p.m

00:42:57.660 he didn't and then she said mama i woke up at midnight i'm looking at his bed and he's at the

00:43:05.560 end of the bed in a praying position with music in his ears it didn't look nothing bad it looked like

00:43:11.520 he was praying he used to pray and i was hey papa what are you doing what are you looking under the bed

00:43:17.380 he didn't answer he was dead so he called the paramedics they took him they did the autopsy

00:43:24.480 they didn't find nothing his body was perfect no cause of death i'm looking at my daughter and i said

00:43:35.040 he did all that for you now you're going to come to me i brought it to me he flew immediately she flew

00:43:42.560 to north carolina and she looked at my eyes when we saw each other after 10 years and she said mama

00:43:47.440 for what your husband did for me i owe you a life of loyalty and respect and i said yes you do

00:43:53.540 because if you don't do what you have to do now the plan is the same i'm walking away from you

00:43:59.660 whether he's dead of a life or alive so because of his death that i'm still trying to figure out what

00:44:05.700 happened she's in rehab almost completely rehabbed rehabilitated and that was very quick if i give you

00:44:16.740 the details we'll be all crying here but he saved my life and we still don't know exactly why he died

00:44:24.120 but he fell dead without a reason and that was enough for her because the thing is that during

00:44:30.240 her recovery when she was having her downs because it was ups and downs a lot of downs i would talk to

00:44:37.160 her and say remember when you found him dead do it for that make his death worse and he did it she did

00:44:42.940 so that's what i'm saying it broke my heart to the point that i almost died i have pictures on my

00:44:49.500 phone i can show it to you i went down to 96 pounds i was shutting down i work on my funeral did he go

00:44:54.260 to the corner was he sent to the corner yes uh this was in the u.s you said or what what did the

00:45:01.100 coroner say was the cause of death they didn't so this is the the last of this the end of the story

00:45:06.840 they didn't have a cause of death for a long time and then after a few months finally it came

00:45:14.480 a very little dose of fentanyl in his system which we believe that it was the fentanyl that my daughter

00:45:23.780 had because that was involuntary exposure i mean for crying out loud he went to save her life he's

00:45:31.240 not going to be trying fentanyl for crying out loud he never was a drug addict wait so you think

00:45:35.540 your daughter my daughter we believe that my daughter's fentanyl got him because he fell like

00:45:42.020 that and that's what happened with fentanyl and later on they found a so small dose that they

00:45:46.960 believe that he breathed it because that's what happened my daughter told my mama my fentanyl wasn't

00:45:52.500 there in the bathroom i closed the door that if you don't consume fentanyl and fentanyl is on the

00:45:57.580 other room you you you fall down dead you can go to youtube and put cop overdosing on fentanyl i saw

00:46:06.900 my eyes you know cops can you know they can be helping somebody and the fentanyl is right there

00:46:10.640 and they they fall down just as a point of clarification um your daughter she had some

00:46:17.640 drugs in the hotel room or whatever in the room fentanyl and he incidentally accidentally came into

00:46:24.300 contact with it that's what we believe you're not suggesting that there's any sort of foul play

00:46:28.220 correct absolutely not okay absolutely not honestly this is not really related well it's kind

00:46:38.560 i feel like you gotta just

00:46:43.340 i'm just being kind of totally off track here i think you just disown your your child if they're on

00:46:52.280 drugs like that i think you just gotta disown i don't know i'm sorry i'm not gonna go to the

00:46:57.760 hotel and like accidentally come into contact with fentanyl risking my own life i agree with that

00:47:03.720 i think whoever is but that's i'm that's an absolutely tragic thing i'm really sorry to hear

00:47:09.980 um so she's clean now though or she she's clean you know she's clean she's doing great she's doing

00:47:16.960 so much better she's out of rehab and she's putting herself together and she's getting a job

00:47:20.860 so she's at the beginning of starting to get herself in society and i'm starting to see the

00:47:26.960 results the fruits of his death you know well i appreciate you sharing that with us of course

00:47:33.360 um sorry for your loss thank you yeah me too i'm sorry thank you you know you has she taken

00:47:42.300 responsibility i mean she kind of killed the guy not a hundred percent well did did she talk about like

00:47:48.660 anything about that no no and that's a good question uh no no she i believe that drugs really

00:47:58.020 affect her to the point that she doesn't have a great judgment today and she doesn't act

00:48:04.260 at the height or at the level that she should after everything that happened when she told me that day

00:48:11.060 mom i owe you a life of loyalty and respect she knew it her her mind her thinking told her that

00:48:18.720 so i don't know what happened today but you know there's some things that i'm expecting more

00:48:23.480 more from her but as long as she's getting out of that life and getting clean i'm happy i'm not

00:48:29.420 expecting anymore um okay so uh you've been you're currently wait are you currently in a relationship

00:48:36.500 no no no i'm single how long you've been single for since he died uh 2020 december like five five

00:48:43.220 years five years yeah and longest relationship was it was my third marriage almost 10 years

00:48:49.060 nine years and sorry 20 years 10 years 10 years almost 10 how many children do you have

00:48:54.260 two adult children children from my from my first marriage okay then that's it that's it got it

00:49:00.640 okay what about you i'm in a three and a half year relationship with my boyfriend and i'm straight

00:49:07.440 and no roster longest relationship uh he was my longest this current one yeah gotcha okay how old

00:49:13.900 is he he's 19 19 19 yes oh okay and you're 20 yes cougar over here oh my goodness he calls me that

00:49:22.160 all the time gotcha so you guys were like high school sweethearts yes kind of okay same grade yes

00:49:28.400 okay um all right uh felicity what about you single for like oh a week now oh longest relationship

00:49:42.720 was almost two years a year and a half two years this past one she got dumped boy did you get dumped

00:49:48.960 or what happened uh he's not faithful he's not faithful i gotta listen to brian wait listen to me

00:49:57.200 yeah yeah because i talked to you about it one time you're like i don't know felicity it sounds

00:50:01.360 like you know hey whoa don't don't put it on me it's your fault whoa hold on totally i think i was

00:50:06.960 giving you advice about how you were moving i'm saying i was giving you advice about how you were

00:50:12.000 moving let's not talk about how i was moving but i'll i'll say we should talk about that no no we should

00:50:16.080 talk about how you were moving not on stream not on stream okay we'll talk we'll talk after we'll talk

00:50:22.560 yeah uh oh shit he cheated on me oh okay how many people he had like a secret snapchat account and he

00:50:35.840 had like a lot of girls on there how do you find out well i had a feeling for a while i was like i feel

00:50:42.240 like something's going on you know like you're like you're keeping something from me so i asked him like

00:50:47.680 would you just show me if you're like or tell me or whatever show me what's on your phone because i

00:50:52.240 don't want to go through a phone you know and he's like no just go through it when i'm sleeping i was

00:50:56.800 like are you serious he's like yeah go through it when i'm sleeping so i went through it when he was

00:51:00.560 sleeping and he had been like snapping other girls for i mean at least a month which was also on my

00:51:08.400 birthday but damn yeah good times congratulations congratulations felicity on your newly singleness

00:51:15.920 uh here we go jungle donated one thousand dollars thank you bro thanks jungle start this party off

00:51:26.800 right and thank you dude sorry for the delay on this can't watch for long tonight cheers cheers

00:51:32.560 uh are we all getting some or what's the time well underage underage underage uh would you like some

00:51:38.560 champagne i'll take some champagne champagne champagne champagne no for you no thank you okay so

00:51:43.840 all right got it uh all right while i'm getting this poured felicity keep telling us about the you

00:51:51.440 know the the happenings pass it down break the law in front of the camera just keep passing it thank

00:51:57.440 you jungle man i don't know i'm just sad about it still but he's a good liar so he kept it from me for a

00:52:05.440 while i mean i asked him multiple times and he said nothing was going on who do i keep passing it uh just

00:52:13.600 just just here or wait yeah for her all right uh let's do a quick cheers uh cheers to jungle your

00:52:21.200 legend dude uh salu salu thank you

00:52:29.840 all right thank you jungle much appreciated we're going to read a couple chats here uh mary pull up

00:52:35.920 the shop.whatever.com somebody purchased i believe a hoodie stream labs has to integrate this a little

00:52:43.040 better um no no no it's well yeah that's fine actually someone thank you for uh getting the

00:52:47.840 hoodie and then jeff here you guys can put your name in it too sometimes though if you don't uh dude

00:52:54.800 love your pod last pod was crazy keep up the good work jeff thank you for the uh shop.whatever.com

00:53:00.160 purchase we will pull up your message if you make a purchase shop.whatever.com and then we have one

00:53:06.640 sec let me see we have lucas here lucas chair three nice to see an esteemed colleague on the panel

00:53:15.920 tax work question mark that's impressive why would my jv agreement agreement drafts be going to you for

00:53:22.400 review for the allocations 754 adjustments chargeback etc section okay reach out to um to brian for my

00:53:32.240 linkedin or my instagram and then we can discuss further after the show well he's an attorney too

00:53:38.240 but uh we have wait i think he was asking you though he was asking you though uh like did that

00:53:44.960 any of what he wrote make sense he's trying to pick my brain but i just don't want to uh go on

00:53:52.160 tangents here because i know brian's gonna hate me for going on tangents no you can respond to him

00:53:56.720 do like a 30 10 second response uh i'd rather not answer it here um so i'm not subject to any

00:54:03.040 malpractice on this show i'd rather i'd rather maybe a little bit of malpractice would be okay

00:54:08.400 i'd rather carefully scheme my answer outside the show yes uh so guys if you want um she's going to

00:54:16.400 be giving legal advice on the show so send in any legal questions for her if you have any tax

00:54:22.400 questions you wait it's court you said corporate and tax mainly tax yes what mainly tax mainly tax

00:54:29.360 what's the other one that you practice uh some corporate guys if you have any maritime law questions

00:54:33.920 for her aviation law uh tree law she does a bit of tree law she does dog bite lawsuits if you're the

00:54:40.800 victim of dog bite she she hates pit bulls so she just ruthless she litigates i actually love french

00:54:47.040 pit bull they're so foggy and cute she is now going to sue me for defamation and slander and other

00:54:53.600 things okay we have lucas here chair five argentina surely you are a big fan of martha argerich and daniel

00:55:01.600 barenblom absolutely any piano concertos in your repertoire schumann piano concerto in a minor

00:55:10.800 brown mining on number three i never played it but i could be in my bucket list beethoven emperor

00:55:15.280 tchaikovsky number one i did play the torrent emperor with a usc uh philharmonic and then chair

00:55:21.680 one you do realize that charlie kirk hangs out on air force one often and his wife is former miss

00:55:28.560 arizona wow do you want to respond to that that's uh for you maryn um do you want to respond pray for

00:55:36.800 her pray for her wait why should we why do we got to pray for charlie kirk she's probably okay

00:55:43.280 she what do you mean she's probably she got the bags that's what um you know if you know arizona

00:55:51.040 there is some conservatives there so if she's conservative i bet she's having a wonderful time

00:55:57.280 tell us how you really feel um i fear for any woman who gets close to charlie kirk

00:56:03.600 because of his views his political views and his perceptence of what women are and how they should

00:56:10.800 live their lives but like so when you say you fear for those women yeah fear of what like violence

00:56:20.160 his opinion is so hurtful to so many women that like if you're a woman who believes in what he believes

00:56:28.080 in i do i just fear for i'm sorry i just fear a little bit for you because the men

00:56:34.480 way though what are you fearful of the men who believe in charlie kirk's views are often more

00:56:42.000 violent more upsetting more rigorous and more conservative and if you're a woman who believes

00:56:50.640 in all of that then you're probably fine so just to be clear you're saying that however you're saying

00:56:55.920 that men who believe in charlie kirk's views are more violent yeah and is there like how do you come to

00:57:03.760 this conclusion um you know andrew tate i've never heard of him andrew tate is very similar to charlie

00:57:11.360 kirk are they yes i think they'd be great friends how how are they some political views ideals

00:57:19.680 energies misogynistic ideals okay and you know a couple things yeah yeah go ahead you know i bet i bet

00:57:29.360 charlie kirk's wife believes in everything he says and i hope she's doing really good i that's you know

00:57:34.560 miss arizona arizona is a very interesting area sure um and i bet she's totally fine with it however

00:57:43.360 i fear she never has to face any thing that's violent or upsetting and i just hope that she lives a

00:57:52.720 great life are you suggesting that charlie kirk's wife is uh at risk of violence at charlie kirk's

00:57:58.560 hands maybe not even his hands but you know i bet he has a lot of friends who are dangerous and

00:58:04.000 upsetting somebody you're saying somebody in charlie kirk's circle is yes has a high likelihood of

00:58:09.360 assaulting charlie kirk's wife you know i'm not saying that per se but like i would like what you're

00:58:16.080 saying i would not feel comfortable in a room with charlie kirk and his friends

00:58:19.680 okay and but i bet his wife does i bet his wife's very comfortable where she is so i hope she just

00:58:25.680 i'm just saying i hope she's happy sure would you feel more comfortable in a room with like destiny

00:58:30.400 or like some other liberal i don't know who that is you don't know who destiny is no uh what about

00:58:35.200 like harry sisson or whatever harry the tiktoker yeah harry sisson like democrat yeah okay

00:58:42.240 now i'm a little confused though you said charlie kirk and uh andrew tate are similar i do feel they

00:58:51.040 are similar can you be more specific in what ways are they similar um violence even if it's not

00:58:57.520 violence physically like political violence against women just hating can you clarify what you mean by

00:59:04.560 political violence i think they would share a lot of similar views about abortion and

00:59:10.160 can you move your can you move your microphone this way and just no no scoot it this way scoot

00:59:15.520 it's good it's good no no no no no this way here just i'm following your thumbs but you're moving

00:59:21.680 it too much i'm just trying i'm just trying to get it aligned right here no this way this way more

00:59:28.480 uh i mean can you try to be like straight with the table she's too tall okay that's fine like this

00:59:36.080 political violence how um andrew tate and charlie kirk have both expressed you know issues against

00:59:45.600 women's rights well okay we need to separate andrew tate and charlie kirk yeah i think they have

00:59:53.280 very different views i would categorize charlie kirk oh andrew tate is worse uh so andrew tate and

01:00:00.560 by worse i mean andrew tate is more aggressive towards his hate towards women and his disrespect

01:00:05.840 towards women and charlie kirk tries to hide it but behind christianity however they both

01:00:12.480 i think value women less than the normal man and that's what i mean that's what i mean they're

01:00:18.000 similar similar sure what has led you to believe so everything i'm gonna well i'm gonna keep it to

01:00:23.600 charlie kirk because i it's easier for me to do it this way um what specifically has charlie kirk

01:00:29.520 said that would lead you to believe that that he doesn't want women to get abortions but you said

01:00:35.280 that something about like equal rights or that no you said that he doesn't view women as equal or as

01:00:42.320 having the same value as men yeah okay how so even just saying that women shouldn't be allowed to have

01:00:49.600 an abortion is assuming that they have less rights than men the right to their bodily anonymity like their

01:00:56.800 autonomy well i'm sure some of the people on the panel want to weigh in on that but okay so abortion

01:01:02.080 don't you actually think though uh do you consider yourself a feminist no no no i'd consider myself a

01:01:07.920 misandrist

01:01:10.960 so a feminist no well what's the difference between a feminist and a feminist believes that everyone is

01:01:16.480 equal a misandrist believes that women are actually better than men

01:01:19.280 how are they better than hold on hold on so just to be clear you are making accusations that uh well

01:01:28.080 my understanding of misandry that would be female supremacy which i guess could fall under the

01:01:33.920 categorization of misandry but do you hate men no so misandry what is misandry so so misogyny is what's

01:01:44.080 been going on for a really long time where men are better than women men deserve more power than women

01:01:52.320 men are smarter than women men are stronger than women blah blah blah misandry believes you know i

01:01:58.640 think in a perfect world women would be in charge of everything and if you look at countries that are

01:02:04.640 happier and better off women are more in charge and i'm not saying that men suck men are great men are

01:02:11.440 needed i'm not saying we should kill all men whatever like i don't i don't support that whole

01:02:15.440 message however if you look at countries that are doing better women are in charge of a lot of

01:02:26.640 the government and i think women because of the system that men have created which is unfair men are

01:02:34.400 taught to be more masculine and strong and whatever however you know if we were all taught

01:02:42.000 to be equal i'd be a feminist however because women have been taught to be more empathetic a lot of

01:02:47.360 women are just better at handling political and social problems okay there's a lot there um

01:02:56.560 let's start with your claim that you're saying that there are countries where there is a

01:03:01.440 a predominance of female leadership and these countries are better yeah okay which countries

01:03:06.800 are those a lot of scandinavian countries like i think copenhagen and like scandinavian countries

01:03:12.320 copenhagen is a is the capital of denmark yeah it's not a country but are you talking i'm just talking

01:03:18.240 about scandinavian scandinavian areas are known to be the happiest places on earth and so you're saying

01:03:24.800 those countries are not patriarchies a lot of them yeah you're saying the scandinavian countries are not

01:03:31.200 patriarchies i'm not saying that exactly but i know they have a lot more women in control than

01:03:36.000 the u.s does which right now the u.s is predominantly

01:03:39.840 actual women yeah and and you're sure and you're saying that these scandinavian countries

01:03:47.200 strictly there's no other factors that might contribute to uh them being at least from your

01:03:52.480 worldview better countries such as what i don't know you're the one making the claim how are they better

01:03:57.600 countries well the women are in charge and they create rules that are more good for the people

01:04:03.680 of the country rather than the rich people of the country i'm not totally versed on this subject however

01:04:10.480 based on what i've seen the countries of the world that have more female leaders

01:04:16.480 are doing how are the people in those countries are happier and more well off than the women or just

01:04:25.120 the people in like the u.s right now for example how so they get health care they go free health care

01:04:33.120 free health care free just care in general women get better maternity leave women get everyone is

01:04:40.000 saying that they're happier in those countries like i'm pretty sure denmark or

01:04:46.720 somewhere just got voted like happiest place on earth for 2025 and it's a place run by women and

01:04:53.280 you're saying like for example if we look at norway i believe is a country of uh what is it four or five

01:04:59.200 million something around that uh you're saying because there's more female leadership in some of these

01:05:05.360 scandinavian countries that uh because simply by virtue of that that's why these countries enjoy

01:05:12.400 like more prosperity or are better yeah okay you don't think like for example with norway it might

01:05:17.920 have to do with their like abundance of natural resources and you don't think that's because the

01:05:22.560 women who rule that country and who help that country have protected those donald trump has taken

01:05:27.200 away so many of our natural resources already and people are already unhappy about that well i can't speak

01:05:33.840 specifically as well my understanding is this uh as it relates to norway norway's natural resources

01:05:40.400 uh the sort of uh prosperity that that has granted its citizenry has been in place for uh many many

01:05:49.920 decades very good i'm assuming prior to even the uh increasing uh representation of women in its government

01:05:57.280 body okay so i'm not sure that that has the prosperity of norway for example has anything to do with

01:06:03.600 like current day uh perhaps increased representation of women in government however if you look at the

01:06:10.160 countries that have had increases in women governments and you look at the ones who have had decrease and

01:06:15.280 who have had predominantly men you can see a vast difference in the amount of environmental protectionism

01:06:22.160 acts and other things that have to do with women's health child health anything to do with like the

01:06:28.720 goodness of the people i think and although again i'm not saying that men are a problem because i know

01:06:37.520 lots of great men it's just when countries rely on only men for power i think that's dangerous and in a

01:06:45.360 world where feminism is seen as a bad thing because feminism means only women i'm going to stick up for

01:06:51.360 only women because a lot of men who claim to be feminists or women who even claim to be feminists

01:06:57.360 still side with like the way things are right now because things are better now than they were in like the 60s

01:07:05.360 a couple clarifying questions here you you cited to uh you cited to scandinavian countries

01:07:12.320 uh would you say that these women who are there's there's a greater representation of women in the government

01:07:17.360 uh are they typically white i don't think it matters but why would it not matter because i don't think

01:07:23.520 race matters with power but but gender does a lot of scandinavian countries are predominantly but so

01:07:29.520 i'm just curious why are you saying these countries are better because there's more women in power why

01:07:34.160 wouldn't you just make that claim about it's better because of white women because i think even africa

01:07:41.280 or somalia would do better with a black woman leader than the leader they have currently okay so

01:07:48.000 going back to your claim about misandry can you again explain to me when you say you're a misandrist

01:07:53.200 what does that mean i believe that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men do they have a

01:07:59.840 better way to lead and they are more and i know a lot of men say women are more emotional i think they're

01:08:05.920 just more sympathetic and empathetic to groups of people okay and what are men so what i've seen from

01:08:15.920 the world men are more interested in power than they are in the goodness of their country men more

01:08:23.520 interested in power and i think women are more interested in making sure that their country is taken

01:08:30.640 care of and that could be wrong i'd love for a man to prove me wrong and i some men have proven me

01:08:36.800 wrong in certain countries however in the mass majority of like the biggest countries it's been

01:08:42.880 scary to see only men in power saying that women can't be in power because of their emotions where men make

01:08:50.400 all the emotional destructive decisions what are some of those war what if i told you that uh if they

01:08:57.840 were if there was a study for example and there is that they did an analysis of female monarchs

01:09:03.120 female queens okay and they actually found that the female queens hold on let me finish i don't recall

01:09:08.880 the specific date range but monarchs right so they found that uh female queen or queens were much more

01:09:14.240 likely to wage war than kings so this would seem to indicate there's a perhaps a greater propensity for

01:09:19.520 violence actually in women well you know one story i know of is one of the queens of france created a war

01:09:25.680 against i think it was spain or italy or something because her husband created unfair decisions between

01:09:32.800 those two i think it was like the um queen of something medici or something i don't forget her

01:09:39.680 full name i can't speak italian the medicis yeah i know i know one queen i know one queen did wage war

01:09:47.360 before her husband because her husband died in war and she wanted to restore peace

01:09:52.960 and i know war war is a big thing but if you look at the history of the world way more wars have been

01:10:02.400 started by men and it's kind of an unfair study to say more women have started wars i would look at

01:10:09.200 when you look at like but per capita per when because women were often controlled by men's decisions even if

01:10:17.040 they were queen they were told what to do the just to be clear the queen was told what to do yes

01:10:25.840 so both kings and queens have counselors but they're never told what to do yeah they they have

01:10:31.840 ultimate were you there were you there no well how would you then how would you be able to make the

01:10:36.960 claim how because you know it's it's just clear that the women who are in power were not actually in

01:10:45.680 power because of stories they've told stories we've heard of different men telling them like by the

01:10:51.360 way you should do this because just because your queen doesn't mean you have political knowledge

01:10:56.240 passed down from you from generations multiple queens were sold to kings to like just be there wait

01:11:01.520 hold on so just to be clear okay so you have the queen who's married to the king who's in power

01:11:07.040 but like which queen are you talking about hold on so uh the the monarchy can pass down through

01:11:13.200 hereditary lines it's always in the sun though right but if there is no sun it goes to the the

01:11:18.160 daughter right and we've we've seen empire we've seen this all throughout history if you look at

01:11:23.440 england for example there are plenty of queens when you mean the one that was in power like the one

01:11:30.160 that just died yeah the queen yeah the queen yeah yeah and then there was queen i'm not an expert in

01:11:36.400 like the united the monarchies of england and britain but i believe queen uh was it queen victoria

01:11:43.680 queen elizabeth so there's yeah the queen of england so there's been plenty of queens who uh you know

01:11:52.240 it wasn't just like thrust upon them through marriage they became the queen through hereditary lines but a

01:11:58.400 majority of queens come through marriage lines because well so because even if you're the eldest

01:12:06.400 daughter the castle the the royalty line goes to the oldest son but if there is no eldest son or the

01:12:14.640 son dies then yes well then they kept trying for a son as much as they could yeah sure and they but

01:12:19.440 they would teach the queen you have to start a war you have to do these things that a man would do

01:12:25.120 the count who i don't know if all women were involved in and being like not just one queen

01:12:32.000 there wouldn't be any wars there's the wars because all the other men are out there trying to fight so

01:12:38.080 if it was all women queens you know there's no way to actually prove it because you'd have to go back

01:12:43.600 in time and change the course of history but i believe that if women were in charge for most of

01:12:50.720 the world there'd be way less war than there is today so but what you think that but that's just

01:12:56.880 an assertion what's the argument for why that would be because it's we've only had wars really attacked

01:13:04.880 and chosen by men in this current day and age there's been plenty again historically i can't i

01:13:11.440 don't have live recall for like a specific war that some queen in the 16th century started exactly

01:13:17.280 okay and you got to speak into the mic you got to speak into the mic margaret thatcher argentina

01:13:24.880 she started the war margaret thatcher started the world taking the malvina islands from argentina

01:13:31.120 i'm argentina i know that part of the story she was a woman and she um uh motivated and she started

01:13:38.320 a war not to be against you but it just came to my mind of course of course there's there's many

01:13:43.600 women was started for excuse me do you know what the war was started for for the islands

01:13:48.640 the malvina islands the islands that are right next to argentina england took them margaret thatcher

01:13:55.280 did she started she was the first minister of uh england okay and uh i was back there it was in 1982

01:14:02.240 i was in second i was a junior and um and there was a war a war and in my country was in war because

01:14:09.200 of margaret thatcher i can i have a second a second one uh christina kirchner she brought the most

01:14:16.560 violence in argentina in the history of argentina thank you seth so i think what you're saying is

01:14:23.680 true and there's a lot of cases but there's other cases i i think you're focusing on things that really

01:14:30.240 happen i think you're right it happened but but no women women brought a lot of violence in any case

01:14:35.920 both parties are going to commit violence but if you look at per capita i think men are more likely

01:14:42.160 to commit violence for reasons that aren't justified than women and women at least plan

01:14:48.640 things out a little bit so you're saying men don't plan things out no i don't agree with that you

01:14:54.320 think i mean it depends i don't i haven't seen all the war plans of america i haven't seen all the

01:15:00.000 war plans of different countries but if you look at the biggest terrorist groups the biggest groups

01:15:05.120 that have committed mass violence all of them are led by men and if you look at the groups that

01:15:11.600 have been led by women they're much more peaceful per capita no it's just fundamentally not true again

01:15:19.520 they've done analysis per capita if they've looked at female leaders historically they were just as if

01:15:25.520 not more likely to start wars than men but when how would why would that matter because a lot of women

01:15:32.320 in early years were completely controlled by men even if they were in power or not uh well

01:15:39.280 you don't believe that no typically with monarchies the the monarch especially historically they had

01:15:45.360 absolute power but women aren't in the time in the 16 17 almost in the 1800s well we're talking

01:15:53.040 about exactly you are too women who had power were raised and taught by only men and a lot of

01:16:02.160 their decisions were made by men what do you mean their decisions were made by men they were told

01:16:07.920 what to do they were told what is right they were taught what is right by not women not like open you

01:16:15.760 know how like in today's world schools aren't fully allowed to teach religion if they're a public school

01:16:20.880 and not like a catholic school women who were born into royalty and who they knew they were going to have

01:16:27.040 to be royalty for the rest of their lives were not taught by parties who were like

01:16:34.000 you know they were taught by parties who were very much for one thing

01:16:40.320 do you think you could maybe give an example i'm sorry do you think you can give an example maybe

01:16:44.000 marie antoinette she's one of my favorite examples marie antoinette was beheaded because

01:16:48.960 she said quote unquote let them eat cake even though she never said that she was taken from austria

01:16:53.680 when she was very young and moved to france she barely even spoke the language she was married to

01:16:58.240 one of the kings and then when the king went under everyone blamed her for being a bad person and for

01:17:05.760 not caring about the poor when she genuinely had no real clue what was going on she was just kept to

01:17:12.000 be married to the king and then she was beheaded because she was an evil person however she genuinely

01:17:16.960 had no clue what was happening do you have another example i'm not completely caught up on english

01:17:23.280 queens and queens but i've been to europe and i've heard lots of stories of different queens that have

01:17:28.800 just even if they had their own mind and even if it's documented that they had their own ideas

01:17:35.120 you have to understand that at that time every woman's life was controlled by men their father's

01:17:42.480 word was the word of god they had no clue what was wrong and what was right and so them believing

01:17:49.920 that whatever a man said like let's do war let's do this let's whatever they thought it was correct

01:17:55.600 because that was the only thing they were being told and it's very sad and i oh women had their own

01:18:03.360 ability do you want to push back you seem like you want to push back i gotta get up go ahead um i'm not

01:18:08.640 sure entirely about this but i'm pretty sure in the 1900s maybe 1800s um in england for i think it

01:18:17.600 was uh for the right to vote uh they burned a lot of factories down do you think they were led by men

01:18:26.560 to do that no i think they were fighting for their rights by burning down factories the factories they

01:18:32.240 were forced to work in for no money yeah you gotta rage when you're like trying to protest and stuff

01:18:39.040 like that you gotta you can't be nice but earlier you said that women in leadership roles don't commit

01:18:46.640 violence i didn't say that in a i said that okay so in a misogynistic world where everyone is uh violent

01:18:54.160 women are going to be violent and henna inherently they're going to become violent because of the societal

01:18:59.040 you know projection of everyone else

01:19:05.520 what's your what's your question just do you think women well earlier you said that

01:19:11.680 women in leadership roles commit violence or don't commit violence and i was just giving you an example

01:19:18.800 of them committing violence i don't consider that as big of a violent act as what men in government

01:19:25.840 have created you know it's not a genocide it's not some sort of giant war it's them saying what

01:19:32.240 we're going through is completely unfair you're making us work in factories for zero dollars you're

01:19:38.080 abusing us you're sexually abusing us and we're over it and we want equal rights a revolution is different

01:19:45.280 than a war or genocide but i get your point equal rights as in not having a job or no as in women

01:19:54.320 being respected as the same way as men women getting equal pay women getting equal hours i mean nowadays

01:20:03.360 it's much different we get very equal stuff somewhat but back then it was so different

01:20:09.360 somewhat somewhat how how they got like dollars and dollars and dollars less than men how they got

01:20:18.400 different hours how they got treated differently by the boss how they got no respect in the workplace

01:20:23.200 no i mean somewhat how are we treated unequally now the wage gap is one example

01:20:30.640 sexism is the workplace what sexism in the workplace she said the wage gap

01:20:37.200 i mean the wage gap is one that's still a thing you can't deny that it might have changed in some

01:20:42.960 states it might have been different but it's still an issue there there is no there is no wage gap

01:20:48.880 this is completely completely debunked by economists but i do think men and women can get paid differently

01:20:56.640 for the same job depending where that instance is taking place thank you as in there are men that are

01:21:02.480 willing to do my job for free and would sign up and beg to do my job and i charge money for what i

01:21:08.000 do well really quick on the wage gap but here you wanted to go go ahead do you think that women work

01:21:13.760 as much as men depends where you're asking it depends who you're asking it doesn't matter in a general

01:21:19.760 basis do you think they were it doesn't like the office wait hold on here let's do this explain the wage

01:21:26.560 cap if i applied for one job and a man applied for the same job a boss is more likely to give a man

01:21:35.760 even if it's just two pennies more a man is more likely to get my job than i am because a boss who may

01:21:44.400 or might not even be a woman it's still no let's say i'm pregnant and i apply for a job i probably will

01:21:51.680 get rejected because i'm pregnant but a man will get that job even if his wife is pregnant because

01:21:57.040 you hold on hold on because i'm going to take a leave of absence yes and it's fair to say listen

01:22:04.080 you're completely qualified for this job but in nine months you're going to give birth i can't handle

01:22:09.040 that what if i get the job and i give birth two years later i would say that when the first hiring

01:22:16.720 process new hires they'll want someone that will work for a longer period of time at first you think

01:22:23.200 that's fair yeah i think that's totally fair wait hold on aren't you making an advocation that women

01:22:28.640 should occupy a majority of positions of political power so wouldn't it actually be within your like

01:22:34.800 your logical framework actually okay for discrimination you're just okay with discrimination

01:22:39.680 towards men but discrimination towards women is not okay i'm not saying that men shouldn't be allowed to

01:22:45.760 be in a political space aren't you a female supremacist no hold on you said you're a

01:22:50.400 misandrist different than a female supremacist the way you explained it earlier no listen a female

01:22:57.280 supremacist would say men should not be allowed i don't think they would necessarily say that that's

01:23:03.280 what i think a male supremacist would say like oh well women could do these sorts of jobs and you know

01:23:10.400 but they wouldn't just outright perhaps ban women from the workforce a male supremacist would say

01:23:15.440 women should not be allowed in the political spectrum and i would say we're talking about

01:23:19.280 something different now you're talking about the political spectrum we were talking about

01:23:21.680 the work you were talking about political by the way just to be clear i'm not making an advocacy i'm

01:23:25.760 not making an advocacy for some supremacy one way or the other i'm saying this is probably what they

01:23:30.720 would say but i'm a little confused because you were making an advocation towards you're saying women

01:23:35.760 are better at xyz ergo they should have uh an overabundance of representation in politics in

01:23:42.080 the workforce i never said that i okay tell me what you did say that i personally believe and i don't

01:23:48.800 speak for everyone in the u.s i personally believe in a perfect world women would have a little bit more

01:23:55.040 power even if it would hold on oh oh even if they were just that's not what you said oh i said women

01:24:01.840 are better okay women are better leave that and so i can't enforce that on everyone and i'm a positive

01:24:08.160 of that wait what do you mean you can't enforce it i can't tell everyone in the entire u.s women are

01:24:13.680 better and if you don't vote for only women i'm going to kill you i can't say that so i think you could

01:24:19.520 say it but i can't i think women deserve way more recognition in not only the political workspace but

01:24:27.280 the in like everything workspace environmental political everything workspace women should get

01:24:35.680 a little bit more because right now it is mainly men okay known for being i have a word hold on we're

01:24:42.960 all over the place here so i want to bring it back to charlie kirk but first really quick to get

01:24:47.360 through the wage gap so you were saying so i'm gonna put aside the comments about you know you're

01:24:52.400 saying that there's uh inequality when it comes to hiring practices let's assume both a man has the

01:24:58.000 same job the woman has the same job when you're sitting you're essentially making the argument that

01:25:02.640 that woman gets paid i've heard different numbers 70 cents 80 cents whatever it is uh explain

01:25:09.200 that component of it to me where women make uh less women get hired for less than men sometimes men are

01:25:17.200 more likely to not settle for a smaller amount because women know that they can't get much better

01:25:22.480 jobs in like a high corporate position men are much more likely to get a higher paying job than women

01:25:29.280 especially if they don't have kids yet if they already have kids and they're not planning on getting

01:25:34.800 pregnant again they might get offered more of a salary however women who even have a little bit of a

01:25:40.880 slight chance of getting pregnant even if it's not said out loud it is more likely for them to not get

01:25:48.080 paid or offered as job i'm just curious on that note but it's kind of diverging a little bit from the

01:25:54.720 wage gap conversation if you were running a business would you hire a woman who was uh like seven months

01:26:00.480 pregnant i mean usually women who are seven months pregnant aren't applying for a job but it depends on

01:26:05.200 her but you would make the argument and you made the claim earlier that it would be unfair for a

01:26:09.760 company to not want to hire a woman who's seven months pregnant i know you're saying that most

01:26:14.720 seven month women who are pregnant at seven months they on their own don't want to get a job but let's

01:26:20.240 assume she is trying to get a job so if you're running a business and say your startup and you have

01:26:25.040 like limited resources would you hire like a woman who's seven months pregnant depends how qualified she

01:26:30.800 is that's what let's say she's qualified fully more than she's super qualified but you you know

01:26:36.000 that within two months she's going to go ahead and take her maternity leave and you're starting up your

01:26:40.720 business and the success of your business and your own capital is on the line and if your business fails

01:26:47.280 you go out you lose your own money your own investment would you hire that woman well you can ask

01:26:53.440 her multiple questions there's multiple women who only get one day of maternity leave and have to go

01:26:57.520 right back to work because if they're new hires they have to go right back to work that's the law

01:27:01.440 i'm pretty sure it's exceptionally rare for for pregnant pregnant women to take off one day no there

01:27:07.360 are some companies that if you are a new hire you're not allowed maternity leave and you can state that

01:27:14.800 you can say i know you want a job and i know you're super qualified answer my question however i'm not

01:27:19.840 allowed to offer you maternity leave would you hire if they say yes or no i agree that there are some

01:27:25.280 women who are like they give birth literally the placenta is still it's still attached and she

01:27:31.680 fucking runs to work in her boss when they give birth well no i mean it's the the the what's it

01:27:38.240 called the umbilical cord is literally hanging out of her vagina and she runs to work that happens

01:27:43.920 probably she runs to work in her boss babe heels and she's like feminism i'm ready to work now putting

01:27:51.200 that aside you want to answer my question if you're running a business would you hire that woman it

01:27:56.080 depends on what she's willing to do she wants to take she wants to take maternity leave six months

01:28:02.320 six weeks what what's the what's the typical i think it's six weeks six weeks sure she wants to

01:28:06.880 take six weeks yeah i'll hire you okay so just to be clear you're gonna hire this critical position

01:28:11.920 and your business is at stake yeah if she is more qualified than her male counterparts that have

01:28:17.360 applied for this position if she's the most qualified person for this position and she says

01:28:23.440 i will be able to come back to work and do really well then why not yeah i i'm gonna go ahead and grant

01:28:29.920 for the sake of this conversation that she's much more qualified than the men okay but yeah she's still

01:28:35.760 leaving you for with six seven eight weeks where she won't be working for you she'll take it for the

01:28:42.560 team oh i don't understand how to work a little harder during that time and let the woman she

01:28:48.400 wouldn't be working at all no i'm saying that it just uh so the other employees have to pick up the

01:28:54.320 slack that's what i'm saying that's what she's saying it depends on the situation completely but

01:28:59.440 companies purposefully not hiring pregnant or suspected to be pregnant women is a big issue it doesn't matter

01:29:07.680 it doesn't matter if they're taking time off everyone takes time off everyone's eventually

01:29:12.320 going to take time off yeah sure let me ask you a question a woman owned business uh would you be

01:29:18.000 fine with them not wanting to hire men because they're men no you you'd be okay with that no i i would

01:29:25.600 not everyone should be hired no matter what on their credentials but let me ask you this so like

01:29:31.120 their credentials if if a man is more qualified than a woman hire the man okay so just to be clear you

01:29:36.720 don't think that like a woman who's running a company and she wants to predominantly hire women

01:29:41.760 and not hire men you would be against that you would say no you have to hire men yeah okay what if the

01:29:47.120 woman had like she had negative uh experiences with men and she doesn't want to hire men because of that

01:29:54.560 that's emotional i don't think that's something that is i mean if that has happened i don't think

01:29:58.880 that's i mean wouldn't you make the argument that a lot of women have had negative experiences with men

01:30:02.960 yeah but as in being sexually assaulted in the workplace like i'll say sure it could be violence

01:30:09.600 it could be violence it could be i mean as a business owner and i am a woman business owner

01:30:13.520 hiring a male in a in a forward-facing position would not be good for my business i specialize in

01:30:19.840 photography for married women okay who are creating private art for their husbands so i have had a male

01:30:26.160 photo editor at one point but he was into men he wasn't the kind of guy who's going to jerk off to the

01:30:31.360 ladies pictures so in some positions men are not fit for the job even though they would beg to do it

01:30:37.200 because they want to see inside the doors of what happens behind the boudoir studio that's a great

01:30:42.080 point i mean most businesses who aren't dealing with women's naked photos i think it doesn't matter

01:30:48.720 the gender and i think discriminating against anyone is not correct however if you're a boudoir photo

01:30:55.600 editor or someone who specializes in filming or editing naked women it makes sense for a company

01:31:01.760 to say i only want women why because the customer who's the most important part of the business might

01:31:06.560 say i don't want a man looking at these photos but in the adult industry it's mostly men holding the

01:31:10.880 camera and doing the editing which is why the perspective that most porn is shot from is the male

01:31:16.400 gaze yeah but like you said your company does photos of married women who want to take photos for their

01:31:22.320 husbands correct if those women say specifically i'm paying for this service and i don't want a man

01:31:28.240 editing or looking at these photos i think it's totally valid to only hire women however in a

01:31:34.000 normal like hold on sorry we got the chat coming through uh sorry for the delay on this man sorry

01:31:39.840 you realize the usa is regarded as the greatest country to exist since the roman empire built on

01:31:46.400 the backs of men name one thing women are better at that both genders can do with evidence what do

01:31:53.520 you think about like child care it depends on the couple but no like a child care company and they

01:32:00.400 discriminate child care company yeah like um i'm trying to think of an example like a daycare

01:32:06.000 would you be okay with them discriminated again discriminating against uh like having male daycare

01:32:10.880 employees they discriminate based on criminal record and if you're in the adult industry as in they don't

01:32:16.080 think adult industry people should be babysitting kids at a daycare or if you have a violent criminal

01:32:20.800 record you have no place in a daycare but their sex or gender of daycare people is yeah men should

01:32:26.480 not i'm not saying men should be discriminated against for different positions i'm just saying like

01:32:30.640 look at everyone and a lot of companies are because of the way that the world has been set up

01:32:36.480 a lot of companies are controlled by men and so slowly but surely the line goes down and women are more

01:32:42.800 and more discriminated against in the workplace because of the way that those companies have

01:32:46.960 started i'm not trying to say that like in the 1800s when these companies were started like wells

01:32:51.840 fargo or whatever that it makes sense for like i'm like not saying that it's bad that a man runs

01:32:58.320 that company i'm saying that it's bad if that man has a history of discriminating but okay i'd still

01:33:05.040 like to get an answer on this the wage gap explain precisely what the wage gap is that women get paid

01:33:11.680 less than men for the same job in a lot of different companies i also think women are afraid to ask for

01:33:17.920 more money and there's a lot of a lot of women are afraid to ask for more money and they have a lot of

01:33:23.520 like issues with that and men are not afraid of that men will ask hey i need this this and that

01:33:27.920 and woman is very much not like that so the men take advantage of that also but so what i'm asking

01:33:33.920 though is when we're looking at the wage gap when you hear these numbers what specifically is it looking at

01:33:39.760 what do you mean so are you comparing all the money that women make in the country no versus

01:33:46.640 all the money that the men make in the country at that so what specifically are you saying it's

01:33:51.120 controlled no i'm saying in a lot of different jobs might not be this one it might not be other

01:33:57.120 jobs in la specifically but in a lot of jobs if i applied for a job and a male counterpart of mine

01:34:05.040 applied for a job a male would be offered more money or given more money for a very similar job

01:34:11.200 because he's a man and even if you haven't seen that your very self in this industry that you work

01:34:18.000 in it is still a thing in a lot of industries well my industry that i work in i can talk broadly about

01:34:25.840 the entertainment industry you live in los angeles for example there's been actually hiring uh practices

01:34:32.000 where they're actually exclude or excluding the hiring of white people and white men specifically

01:34:37.920 yeah and men specifically there's a massive amounts of affirmative action in the entertainment industry

01:34:43.760 so this idea that there's like and it's not just affirmative action in the entertainment industry

01:34:50.000 we see this in all industries women predominate in hr and women are overwhelmingly the one who are making

01:34:56.240 hiring decisions at these companies i would just i guess what i'm trying to get to with the wage gap

01:35:01.840 is so the wage gap doesn't though the one that's often cited 72 cents 82 cents 84 cents who knows

01:35:08.720 it's always changing is it's looking at the full-time earnings of all women and comparing it to the

01:35:15.280 full-time earnings of all men it doesn't account for hours worked it doesn't account for overtime it

01:35:20.800 doesn't account for commute time it doesn't account for uh hazard pay it doesn't account for the type

01:35:26.000 of job it doesn't count for like a dozen different metrics it's just simply comparing the money that

01:35:33.200 women make to the money that men make and so if it was the case that men work more for example which

01:35:37.760 they do men work more hours than women yeah you start to see it shrink and then if you start looking

01:35:42.640 at specific industries and you compare like for like it shrinks more you'd agree with me that men and

01:35:48.000 women pursue different things when it comes to college education academia and career but do you

01:35:53.840 know why choice no yes it's absolutely choice women have any choice that they can pursue you have you

01:36:01.680 have a tax attorney a corporate attorney on the panel okay she's not relegated to being a secretary i'm not

01:36:10.560 saying and she's also an immigrant too she's an immigrant and a woman and a i would you consider

01:36:16.800 a person of color yeah this one i would agree that it's really your person pursue whether you want

01:36:21.200 to stick with your dream and uh i don't personally think there's like a significant wage gap i can

01:36:26.960 only speak to my own industry that i have compared salaries with my colleagues of course we all no

01:36:32.720 matter like men or women we all started pretty much similar salary i think the only wage gap that

01:36:37.520 could happen later on was because um of course women they have childbearing responsibility they have

01:36:42.960 child care responsibilities because usually i have to say the women have to make more sacrifices in the

01:36:49.120 early stage after the child is born so they have to take a lot more time off to take care of the child

01:36:55.440 and maybe have to make difficult career decision to step back from promotion opportunities but um but i

01:37:02.960 think for from the starting point i think we are pretty equal in terms of my industry however would you

01:37:09.840 agree that more women since birth are pushed to being things that make less money than men

01:37:16.880 i think that's more a personal choice like some women they may choose to step back and take a more

01:37:22.880 to have more work-life balance to take care of their family so that's why they would go into like hr

01:37:27.440 and secretary jobs and of course women who are more who choose to be more ambitious and career oriented

01:37:33.760 they may take on some more difficult jobs like becoming a doctor or lawyer or some other can i ask

01:37:39.680 leadership positions have you only lived in los angeles i have actually lived in china in canada and

01:37:45.600 europe and us okay so lots of liberal areas uh i wouldn't say so because um europe i wouldn't say

01:37:53.760 china i mean i mean americans american government has been always saying there's so much propaganda like

01:38:00.800 going on in china so i wouldn't say china is like liberal and actually a lot of uh americans think

01:38:06.320 china is very behind on liberal issues of course so but i mean in the in like the states and like

01:38:12.960 whatever have you only lived in la and what'd you say um la and dc but i don't think your

01:38:21.600 political opinions or your personal values are affected by like where you are geographically located

01:38:27.680 well i know plenty of people who grew up in like more conservative areas smaller towns southern

01:38:34.720 towns who would say that since birth they have been pushed towards more idealistic feminist feminism

01:38:44.480 gender roles where like they were told to be more girly and to not apply themselves to more male

01:38:53.440 as in like the parents who tell their daughters just to go to college so they can find a husband

01:38:57.120 exactly as in so my mother's father who was a world war ii that was in the navy he sent all of

01:39:03.680 his daughters to college so they could go find husbands now that is still a thing there's also

01:39:09.520 generational like i'm from a town where there's women who are generationally having babies to live

01:39:14.720 off of welfare and that is something that was like their mother raised them that way and they think

01:39:20.560 that they just need to get knocked up they don't need to be with the man so they get the government

01:39:24.400 benefits there are problems with the united states so i think sometimes immigrants have a better

01:39:28.880 attitude coming into the u.s and they honestly feel like the world is their oyster whereas when you're

01:39:33.680 born whether i think your economic or financial situation makes a big difference totally on the

01:39:38.560 type of opportunities or fair wages that you get i think a lot of women barely graduate high school

01:39:44.560 already have kids there was a daycare in the high school in the city that i went to yeah i mean

01:39:48.800 those women never got to figure out who they were or wanted to be but they're already mothers of two

01:39:54.400 women they're dealing with that now they're 30 message or 35 messaging me on facebook saying your

01:39:58.640 life looks like so much fun because i am single haven't had kids no divorces on paper i'm like

01:40:03.680 total wifey material something people say to me is like it's not fair that you're talking about these

01:40:09.440 issues when you don't have these issues i'm very lucky to be girl i grew up in los angeles california

01:40:15.440 very liberal i grew up with very liberal parents i'm not poor i have a good life i went to a good liberal

01:40:22.720 high school and i go to a college you know i have so many wonderful rights but when you look at the

01:40:30.640 entire united states if you look at the poor little states poor little cities in alabama

01:40:36.400 south carolina like all those places red states if you look at the same thing if you look at the small

01:40:44.480 cities in little states that have issues i grew up very close to the amish country yeah virginville

01:40:52.320 blue ball intercourse pennsylvania those even yeah pennsylvania amish country there is um all sorts of

01:41:00.560 things happening and men who are told they have to marry a woman and there's a lot of arranged marriage

01:41:05.120 but these guys are actually on grinder you know i i drove through the town with with my friend who

01:41:10.400 prefers men and he got on the app and he couldn't believe all these hot farmer boys that are popping

01:41:14.560 up i'm sorry what does this have to do with the wage gap but so back to this it just depends where you

01:41:18.480 are where you are and it depends how you're raised with the rage gap but like because you're certainly

01:41:23.200 not talking about entry-level positions like a domino's pizza hires people at minimum wage no matter

01:41:27.200 if you're a lady right or like in los angeles the wage gap is way less likely to be found well actually

01:41:33.040 in major cities if you look at single childless women between the ages of 18 to 29 and most like metro

01:41:40.880 city areas they actually out earn men so again but i guess when it comes to the wage gap

01:41:47.120 uh there there is an earnings gap so the earnings gap is you're not looking at factors like hours

01:41:53.600 worked you're not looking at job you're just literally comparing the money that men make and

01:41:57.600 the money that women make there's an earnings gap the question you need to ask yourself is not not

01:42:02.800 whether it exists but why it exists you would probably say it's due to sexism and patriarchy and

01:42:07.840 misogyny and all this stuff i don't think it has anything to do with sexism really so what does

01:42:12.240 it have well you know what i'll actually make the argument that does have to do with sexism it has to

01:42:15.760 do with women's sexism such as sure i'll give you a couple example would you say that people who are

01:42:20.640 motivated are more likely to earn more money yeah okay would you say that uh people who

01:42:29.840 have a desire for status are more likely to earn more money

01:42:35.360 yeah when it comes to dating it is a dating podcast after all um right i don't know if your own

01:42:41.040 preferences are going to align with this would you say that men or women are more likely to prefer

01:42:45.760 a high-earning partner i don't know you don't know okay what about status do you think men or

01:42:51.600 women prefer uh have a uh preference for status in a partner i don't know you know i think men prefer

01:42:59.440 women of lower status so that they can be more dominating in their relationship men often fear

01:43:06.960 women who have more status or more money i would dispute that but i'll go ahead for the sake of

01:43:12.560 conversation for the sake of argument i'll go ahead and grant that is that your actual world

01:43:17.760 view i would say because of and not because of my views or because of their views because of the way

01:43:24.640 that the u.s has been shaped with men being on top not a bad thing it just happened that way because

01:43:31.120 of the way that we evolved or whatever what do you when you say evolved what do you mean are you

01:43:35.040 saying there's like natural evolutionary because reasons for so if we go all the way back to like

01:43:41.920 the start of evolution sure women were known to stay more at the home or the little hut or whatever

01:43:48.240 to take care of the cave right to take care of the children and the crops and the society one

01:43:53.920 question one one question really quick one question wait wait i swear i'll let you finish i just got one

01:43:58.480 quick question back in the hut days the cave days yeah were there air-conditioned office jobs no okay

01:44:05.040 go ahead continue women were more likely to stay home because they were more valuable

01:44:09.360 men can impregnate multiple women women can't be pregnant with multiple people at once you're

01:44:14.800 saying so men were chosen women were more valuable back men were yep men were chosen to go out and hunt

01:44:21.120 because if one of them dies in the hunt it's not as irreparable damage as if a woman died wait so

01:44:27.680 women even historically speaking were more valued than men yes wouldn't that totally contradict

01:44:33.760 can i just say one thing everything you've been saying so far because slowly as men realize that

01:44:38.720 they could leverage the fact that they went out and quote-unquote provided can i just say one thing

01:44:45.520 there would be no men without women so like okay there would be no women without men there would be no

01:44:50.720 food stores without men okay but but well women could go hunt but men would say but women needed a

01:44:57.680 protein men would say i'm we're gonna go hunt because if three out of ten men die it's way better

01:45:05.120 for the society and is that your view no that's are you saying men are disposable just no well you just

01:45:11.040 said it's better if men die in the olden days when there was no anything that was happening and it was

01:45:16.960 just like caves and animals and fire yes it made more sense for men to go hunt sure if one man died

01:45:27.760 you could still keep the society alive was the patriarchy stronger back then or does the patriarchy

01:45:34.720 stronger now the patriarchy is stronger now the wait the hold on the patriarchy is stronger now of

01:45:39.760 men thinking that they're greater than women and believing that they're more in charge of women what

01:45:45.200 does that have to do with that is the patriarchy men controlling more of what's going on wait so

01:45:51.200 today when women have the right to vote the patriarchy is stronger well there was no voting back

01:45:58.000 then so well there was a period there was a period of time where more men had the right to vote well

01:46:02.400 right when voting started was when the men of the very primal societies started being like wait we're

01:46:12.160 hunting we're stronger and we can control you and slowly women started being pushed aside and being

01:46:19.840 told you're only allowed to have women wait men religion emerged and men created a rhetoric that

01:46:27.120 they were more valuable than women and even if that's not a value that's today like men aren't

01:46:32.640 really allowed to say like men are better than women at this stage of life it was a big thing back then

01:46:39.600 i actually i reject the premise but that men thought they were better than back then in the 1600s yeah

01:46:46.720 i mean look i'm not a christian apologist but uh my understanding of christianity my hold on let me

01:46:52.480 finish my understanding of christianity is that there's a there was a complementarian view in so far as

01:46:59.680 men and women were different but in terms of uh your value as a human being you uh your your value uh

01:47:07.360 there's a specific term that i'll have to look up there is actual equality between men and women

01:47:12.480 in terms of your value your life value but in terms of differences of course there's differences between

01:47:18.640 men and women and you would agree because you said that men are stronger than women and men were sent

01:47:22.880 out to be disposable and if they died not a big deal so wouldn't you actually wouldn't you have to then

01:47:27.920 make the argument that actually if women were more valued in society by by the means of protection you

01:47:34.240 said well we're going to keep the women safe they don't have to go out and do the dangerous dirty

01:47:40.240 activities hunting for example wouldn't this actually be evidence of like valuing women over

01:47:46.320 men yeah okay so however i said slowly that started to shift because as different adventures popped up and

01:47:55.280 religion popped up and studies popped up men who were quote unquote stronger and who created this

01:48:01.440 whole rhetoric of like women need to stay home started evolving and excluding women from that

01:48:08.560 started becoming like philosophers and people who created religion and people who created jobs

01:48:14.960 those were all men okay and slowly they pushed women down because you know it's human it's human to want to be

01:48:23.840 better than it's human to want to win it's it's survival however these men started just valuing

01:48:30.640 women as objects let me ask you a question and slowly our necks like put down on the floor like

01:48:36.800 you know like they the way society worked women were on the bottom and like with their

01:48:43.120 life put down and men were just running i mean this is just fundamentally untrue how you okay you guys

01:48:49.840 are committing an apex fallacy you're looking at a very small proportion of men and saying like do you

01:48:54.800 genuinely think in like feudal europe that that all the men because they were men had like fantastic

01:49:02.400 lives and men just loved it and all men had power the reality is i never said that 0.0001 of men had

01:49:10.560 any sort of power there were some women who had some power and then if you look at the vast majority of

01:49:16.240 everybody they had no power whatsoever both men and women were oppressed and you can make convincing

01:49:23.360 arguments that actually men had it worse in many ways in what ways historically and modern day what

01:49:29.360 ways yeah sure so men were uh were basically worker slaves worker bees they worked like extremely

01:49:35.760 dangerous physically who made them do that how would that matter men that sounds like victim blaming

01:49:40.720 that sounds like victim blaming to me but what would it matter question of who what does it have

01:49:45.200 to do if they're men or not i could just make the i could just go to socioeconomic or class i could just

01:49:50.160 be like it's the rich people why what does it matter if it's men there's only there's only two sexes

01:49:55.040 because even though we can't prove it and that's why this argument is so you can't prove it

01:49:59.440 okay you're gonna listen to me though are you gonna listen i'm go ahead even though we can't prove it

01:50:04.640 men have been in the front lines of almost everything that has really gone wrong in the world

01:50:11.040 and women have not been there and so women have always been there through proxy but men proxy of men

01:50:18.000 controlling their lives no no how so you you're making the claim you have to present the evidence

01:50:25.200 that the men were controlling their lives every queen had a king and the king was the ruler well actually

01:50:30.800 she could get beat to death if she argued with him you know what i mean hold okay first off the if a

01:50:38.000 king if he marries a woman she becomes the queen but he is the number one in power exactly but a queen

01:50:45.040 she doesn't elevate like if she gets married she doesn't elevate that guy he doesn't become king he

01:50:50.560 becomes queen consort so it's not like if the woman who was queen gets married that the man she's married

01:50:58.560 to all of a sudden has like any sort of predomination in the relationship she has a father yeah wait hold

01:51:05.760 on no if she's the queen the father's dead her father would have been the would have been the king

01:51:13.520 and then the father is presumably that taught her everything she knew and that father would have

01:51:18.320 also taught his sons in the same way are you talking about like and when i use this word i don't mean in

01:51:23.200 the way most people take it you're talking about like grooming royalty like grooming for leadership yes

01:51:28.400 that's exactly what happens yes but both sons and daughters were groomed into leadership positions

01:51:35.200 no it was exactly the same but okay okay can i ask you a question so uh what do you like about

01:51:41.120 your boyfriend i believe you're in a relationship right if you believe that women are better in

01:51:46.080 many aspects so do you believe that you're better than your boyfriend in almost every single aspect

01:51:52.160 you know talking about like a very small like one-on-one ideal

01:52:00.640 maybe but you know not enough i acknowledge i acknowledge that in many ways you know and

01:52:07.040 some of the arguments we have or whatever i tend to be a little bit more forgiving

01:52:13.920 than he is i tend to be a little less emotional than he is however because he's a he's a really

01:52:21.760 great person and he has been taught he has like eight sisters he's been taught he says all the time

01:52:28.320 like i am the way i am because i've was raised by so many women so question do you feel like you have

01:52:33.760 a more masculine role in the relationship seeing as he moved in with you which would typically be

01:52:38.000 something like the girl would do with the guy you know no because i do acknowledge him as the

01:52:44.000 masculine part however you know if you're talking about or dominant like like do you wear the pants

01:52:48.560 in the family you know do you handle the finances do you technically yes but i enjoy i enjoy him

01:52:55.760 being but would you say that's a non-traditional relationship yeah i would yeah so i think there's nothing

01:53:01.200 wrong with having views and i feel like her relationship kind of mirrors her views like yeah

01:53:07.120 and she has a submissive he knows what i believe in we have debates every once in a while like

01:53:12.160 we're very open with talking with each other about this stuff and you know he's very comfortable

01:53:17.200 with who i am i'm comfortable with who he is so you think he'll give you a round of applause

01:53:21.920 by listening to this oh hell yes he will he listened to my whole charlie kirk thing he said he was

01:53:27.440 on my side he was do you think never mind okay do i think what said he was just saying that to get

01:53:33.520 in my pants how did you come to that conclusion i don't know the look in your eyes the look in my

01:53:38.880 eyes like you wanted to instigate hold on here was the i i think i said was it because like that

01:53:45.920 was the extent of the sentence how did you gather the only thing i could think that i want to just

01:53:50.080 i just want to finish my point on the wage gap because i was pointing out how it's actually

01:53:53.200 the wage gap could actually be uh due to sexism but due to women's sexism such as uh do you want

01:53:59.600 a guy to pay for the first date i don't care you don't care i'll offer uh on the first date with

01:54:04.160 your current boyfriend did he pay for the date i don't know i think we split it does he ever pay

01:54:09.040 for dates yeah okay he asks all the time sometimes i'll like sneak up and like force him to pay it

01:54:14.080 sounds like he i mean i'll force myself to pay like i'll sneak off be like i'm going to the bathroom

01:54:18.400 and then i'll like slip my card let's hear from the rest of the panel uh yes do you want a

01:54:22.240 guy to pay for the first date yes okay i paid for first sure i don't dispute that women on occasion

01:54:28.320 will pay for a first date of all the first dates you've been on uh if you had to say like a

01:54:32.240 percentage what percent of the time does the guy pay for the first date a lot of the guys that i

01:54:36.400 date in my personal life are not as um financially they're broke yeah okay period uh but so but

01:54:46.400 overwhelmingly okay majority uh the majority of the time do men pay for the first date for you

01:54:51.680 um yeah when i'm going out on um there's different levels of guys i date there's guys that are hot and

01:54:57.680 like that is that's the guys i will take out but the guys that are more of the husband material yes i

01:55:04.240 would have been paid okay what about you do you uh when you go on first dates who pays for the date

01:55:10.160 um definitely the men pay for the first date but it's just the first day doesn't mean he has to pay for

01:55:16.960 any future date but of the okay of the people you have dated where it went beyond the first date

01:55:23.520 was there still a pattern of him paying for dates beyond the first date um i think generally the men

01:55:29.920 would pay for uh would have a bigger share of the cost uh but also depends on the income level

01:55:36.800 socioeconomic status of the men i date so you're an attorney do you date many men who work at mcdonald's

01:55:42.960 no no no you just but i bet if she met a really hot musician who like played oh yeah that's true

01:55:49.360 she would totally potentially go out on some dates with him would you marry him would you marry a guy

01:55:54.000 who made like fifty thousand dollars a year i think um just from a realistic standpoint it would be hard

01:56:00.160 to have a long-term relationship because i have a different perception uh about money so if i want to

01:56:06.960 go on an expensive vacation i don't want to cover 100 the cost for for a man who makes a lot less

01:56:13.360 money than i do you would want to date a guy who makes maybe about as much as you yeah we're kind of

01:56:19.920 less than me is okay um but at least we need to have like the same perception about money like for

01:56:25.040 example um even if i'm dating a super rich guy but i want to go on an expensive vacation just to treat

01:56:31.440 ourselves but then he'll be like no i want to save the money even though you make like a million

01:56:35.440 dollars a year so i think it's all about whether your perceptions are aligned okay uh what about

01:56:41.120 you for states do you pay does the guy pay i definitely prefer if the man pays and if it's

01:56:47.840 a situation where we're splitting or i'm paying the guy definitely gets docked in boyfriend potential

01:56:53.120 points oh so he like he almost gets friend zoned after that so let's say you're on a date you guys

01:56:57.760 went out for dinner the waiter comes and he's like two checks you're saying you would dock points 100

01:57:04.320 percent and i think would there be a second i think whoever picks the restaurant and let's say

01:57:08.160 you pick a very very expensive restaurant then you should be willing to pay if the other party

01:57:13.280 when the check comes doesn't reach what about you i think uh the man should pay on the first date

01:57:17.920 what about you all the men should pay felicity what about you man should pay okay well maren you've

01:57:24.000 heard uh quite a few yeah women here uh are any of you like consider yourself more liberal or feminist or

01:57:30.960 uh i don't consider myself any of that are you consider yourself more liberal or i don't think

01:57:36.480 i'm very liberal a little bit conservative i would say okay well so uh maren let's go ahead and just

01:57:43.040 say that um yeah there are no liberal women no liberal women who ever want men to pay for first

01:57:49.200 dates which i actually think is uh that's definitely there i think there's actually a lot of liberal

01:57:53.280 women who still want men to yeah of course adhere to more traditional dating standards hold on

01:57:57.360 it's always nice if a man pays it's always like oh thank you yeah but do you think men can get away

01:58:02.000 with saying it's nice when women pay yes well they can get away with saying that it is nice when women

01:58:08.560 pay sure i'll grant that but do you think that men can realistically go into a date with the expectation

01:58:16.560 that the woman's going to pay the entire bill i wouldn't say anyone should go into a date

01:58:21.840 expecting that someone's going to pay the entire bill i've only been on a couple dates i've always

01:58:27.440 said i'll pay for my food i don't it's a first date you don't even know me we might not even get along

01:58:33.760 how many first dates have you been on less than five have you split all of them or has the guy ever

01:58:38.800 paid you split all of them um sometimes they're like no please let me pay please let me pay and i'm not

01:58:43.600 gonna say no but i'll say no i promise i can pay i don't want you to pay my whole bill we just met

01:58:49.360 and sometimes they'll be like it's okay fine you can pay and i'm totally fine paying and it doesn't

01:58:54.800 mean i'm gonna count them out of my life sure but so i guess to just i guess wrap up on this the

01:59:00.160 argument that i was making here is that even if there was only say 50 percent of the population of

01:59:05.120 the female population that had a strong preference towards men being providers and for men paying for

01:59:11.040 dates men paying in other ways whatever it is this would actually indicate that there's a mating

01:59:16.320 pressure that exists on men that doesn't exist the other way but so by by women's own dating

01:59:22.080 preferences and this is not just i think a social construct but also i think there's a biological

01:59:27.760 evolutionary basis for women wanting uh providers and when you're talking about the the days of huts

01:59:33.200 and the days of caves you know the the men went out and hunted and the women stayed the men were

01:59:37.680 providers the men were protectors i think based on women's own stated not just stated but actual

01:59:43.760 preferences as it relates to what they find attractive in a long-term partner which typically

01:59:49.120 relates to a man who's capable of providing uh and you have you heard it from here we've heard it a

01:59:54.160 bunch from women on the show if the guy won't pay for the first date that's it i think that this

02:00:00.480 i said you got docked points okay fair enough whatever it is you can redeem yourself yeah i guess

02:00:05.120 okay but he has to work harder in some other metrics because anytime you're on a first date

02:00:08.960 hold on let me make that's fine okay i'm not going to get into the weeds with you i'm going

02:00:13.040 to finish my point do you pay for the date when you're going out on your first date do you pay for

02:00:17.760 dinner yeah i pay so the point i was trying to make here is that if women have this mating pressure

02:00:24.560 that exists that doesn't exist the other way back like i if if i'm going to be going out on a date

02:00:30.560 with a woman there's no world that exists where i'm going to either have the assumption like women

02:00:35.840 do or even think it's a possibility that when i go on a date with her she's going to pay the entire

02:00:41.600 thing it's dubious if she'll even go 50 50 i've had that that's happened but the majority of the

02:00:47.600 time there is a very strong expectation that men are going to pay on first dates this is something

02:00:52.640 this is not like some patriarchal system this is actually a system hold on i'll get to you in a sec

02:00:57.920 this is a system that women enforce this isn't like men aren't forcing women to have a preference

02:01:05.440 towards providers i'm sure men would like be super enthused if women were just simping for them

02:01:11.600 all the time and just like here's money taking them on dates the reality is is women place a mating

02:01:17.840 pressure on men that doesn't exist the other way and this and there's plenty of other factors but i

02:01:23.280 think looking at this alone would explain any supposed or alleged wage gap that exists because if

02:01:29.760 men if essentially it boils down to this women are saying you can't have sex with me you can't be in

02:01:37.440 a relationship with me you won't be able to reproduce which is like a biological imperative

02:01:44.880 for both sexes but as it relates to men all need each other for sure but if women are basically saying

02:01:50.720 i won't date you i won't have sex with you i won't give you my time i won't give you my attention i won't

02:01:54.960 give you children down the road essentially because dating leads to relationship leads to

02:01:59.200 marriage leads to children seems like that's a really big mating pressure on men so if men like

02:02:04.960 somewhere back either it's in their conscious or subconscious brain are thinking if i don't have

02:02:10.480 a high paying high status job and that's going to prevent me from getting a partner and getting

02:02:17.440 a woman and eventually having children i think that that would be a massive motivating pressure

02:02:22.640 that women are putting on men that would lead them to greater motivation and greater achievement

02:02:28.640 and ultimately uh greater earnings so the earnings gap the wage gap whatever you like to call it

02:02:34.320 is actually explained by women's sexism go ahead if i i understand where you're coming from however if

02:02:42.240 you take what you're saying and put it towards the history of the world let's just talk about the us for

02:02:49.040 a second the history of the us 50s 40s 30s 20s 10s what about it men had the jobs and women often had no

02:03:02.560 job women offer often were not invited to have a job and women often just weren't even allowed to have a

02:03:10.640 job their job was to find a man get married and have children so uh women have always worked but

02:03:18.400 but but what in like a small factory for a penny an hour while men were in like actual jobs you think

02:03:25.600 in the 1920s there were like a an abundance of cushy jobs like 99 percent hold on 99 of men had like

02:03:32.640 and they had super dangerous and women weren't allowed to work in those jobs wait let me ask you

02:03:38.960 a question no no that's fine let me ask you a question you're living can i finish my one quick

02:03:43.040 question and i promise i'll let you finish okay you're living in 1930s 1920s pennsylvania yeah with

02:03:50.480 the coal mines right you have a choice you can go into the coal mines as a woman you can be the first

02:03:56.160 course well hold on i'm asking is my favorite movie so okay great so pittsburgh totally great

02:04:03.360 thank you for that non sequitur so anyways let's say you had a choice you could go into the coal mines

02:04:08.960 okay and get black lung yeah and die like in your 30s or 40s of lung cancer totally or or you could stay

02:04:18.400 home and be a homemaker which would you prefer which was i allowed to do what no which would you prefer

02:04:24.880 if i was broke probably a coal miner because people no that's my answer no but hold on answer

02:04:34.400 the question if you had the choice and here are your two choices to be a homemaker and your husband

02:04:40.000 goes into the coal mines or you get to go into the coal mines and i guess your husband stays home i

02:04:44.960 don't know what the deal is but the problem with your question what's the problem with the question

02:04:48.800 is that women back then did not get a choice okay sure i'm gonna they were they were told you can't

02:04:54.240 work in this coal mine too dangerous for you too whatever i'm not sure they were told your job is

02:05:00.720 to be a homemaker even if you don't have kids no no i'm even if you don't have kids your job as a

02:05:07.440 woman is not to work in some sort of a physical demanding job it's not to be a ceo it's not to be

02:05:13.040 anything that no but it's not to be anything that involves work women do not really get jobs you can be

02:05:19.520 a receptionist in the 50s if you want but other than that women were not given the choice even if

02:05:25.680 you're a single one by yourself with no kids who needs money because you're going to be homeless

02:05:30.400 are you going to answer my question i'm answering right now you're not answering you were not given

02:05:33.920 the choice to work women did have the choice to work and they did work barely what like triangle

02:05:40.480 shirtwaist factory like it was not a situation where lots of women were available to work

02:05:48.560 and so through generations and slow decline where women were slowly able to work more it was still

02:05:56.240 a very normal like almost taught thing for women to not work and nowadays it's so much common for women

02:06:05.520 to work which is great however do you want to answer the question though what's what is it okay

02:06:10.000 if you had a choice between being a homemaker or working in a coal mine and like dying of emphysema

02:06:15.440 in your 40s in 1920s sure i wouldn't get the choice that's my choice let's say you did it's a hypothetical

02:06:22.320 if i begged and pleaded it has nothing to do with i would pick the coal mine you know what they're

02:06:27.520 putting out the coal mines putting out a program they're like we're gonna hire one woman so you do get

02:06:31.760 the choice in i would want to work you'd want to you'd prefer to work in the coal mine than be a

02:06:36.320 homemaker yes really if i was by myself and i didn't have money and i needed money to live

02:06:42.720 yeah i'd rather work in the coal mine that's not really that the purview of the hypothetical

02:06:49.200 you're adding the hypothetical doesn't make any sense

02:06:53.280 i'm trying if i had the choice and my life was perfect obviously i wouldn't want to work in a coal

02:06:58.720 mine but back then there weren't that many options and if i was a poor woman who didn't have a source

02:07:04.240 of income who didn't have a husband i would much rather work in a coal mine than sit in a house by

02:07:09.040 myself a house i couldn't afford because i didn't have a job because i wasn't allowed one i would have

02:07:14.720 to marry a man that is my job back then throughout this this claim that women weren't allowed to work

02:07:21.840 through history is just demonstrably false women have always been able to work but what out of a hundred

02:07:27.360 women ten women could work all women could work but many women opted it was just the sort of the

02:07:35.520 you're so wrong about that how am i wrong because women were often never hired and if they were hired

02:07:41.680 they were hired for much less money than they deserved what evidence do you have for this history books

02:07:48.240 okay let me ask you a question and i want to move off of the wage gap here pretty soon my grandpa was a

02:07:51.920 coal miner so just okay thank you i just heard that i was like this my time if it was actually

02:07:57.840 the case that women were paid more than men what's actually stopping companies and what you would agree

02:08:03.520 that companies their goal is to make money okay like do you think most like do you think would you

02:08:09.120 agree with me that corporations are extremely greedy yes and their primary goal is to is to generate

02:08:15.040 profit yeah like you would agree that you might say that corporations like there's a there is sexism

02:08:20.880 in corporations you'd probably argue that because men occupy the highest positions in these corporations

02:08:26.160 like they're part of the executive team they're part of the board whatever the uh ceos etc uh you

02:08:31.840 would say that there uh there could be sexism in these corporations there could be right or you

02:08:37.520 probably say that there is so but you would agree that also corporations primary motive is profit and money

02:08:43.440 yeah of course okay so do you think that corporations prioritize their alleged or supposed

02:08:50.640 sexism over making money no okay so then if that was genuinely the case that you could genuinely get

02:08:56.720 away with paying women less what is stopping from corporations just exclusively hiring women and saving

02:09:03.680 like 30 percent or 20 percent on their payroll expenses and beating out their competitors by only hiring women

02:09:10.000 because men believe that men make more money and men are better at their jobs so a ceo man who is sexist

02:09:17.600 i mean i don't know these people but you're saying it's the case that women are just as good as men yeah

02:09:22.800 okay so then if that's the case if that's your worldview that's mine that's not a man that's not every

02:09:29.200 man's worldview okay so but what is again if it's actually true that you can get away with paying these

02:09:34.640 women 30 percent 20 percent why don't the companies just hire women because they don't like women but

02:09:40.560 i thought profit was the ultimate motivator not just like boys club sexism yeah but they'll get a

02:09:47.760 they're scared they're gonna get a what's it called a lawsuit they're scared they're gonna get a lawsuit

02:09:53.280 a sexism lawsuit an ageism lawsuit a pregnancy lawsuit they're scared there's literally women there's only

02:09:58.720 there's gyms just for women out here in uh in the valley and men sued because they can't come in so

02:10:04.320 like people okay sure it's uh well i guess you're not hypothetical situation if you can bring in a male

02:10:13.200 ceo who is known for discriminating against women and ask him these questions and he gives you real

02:10:18.800 answers i'd love to see that however they're all going to tell you bullshit what are they going to tell

02:10:23.040 you that the men they hire are just great and they didn't mean to discriminate and

02:10:28.560 they didn't mean to do any of this stuff but it's you know it's hard to get the truth out of these

02:10:33.440 people but if you look at everything i mean the thing is is that um this wage gap thing it's been

02:10:39.840 legislated against since the 1960s so so if you can prove as a woman that there is an actual uh

02:10:48.720 discrepancy between wages between your male co-workers you can bring a lawsuit but that's the

02:10:55.440 problem is people do things so secretively now ageism racism sexism all of it but that can be

02:11:03.120 done in such ways where it's avoidable to be sued against i think look ultimately it's definitely

02:11:10.400 not as bad as it used to be i'm not saying like the sexism in the workplace is as bad as it was in

02:11:16.400 the 60s or 50s it's way better now and i'm so grateful that it's better now however it still exists

02:11:22.400 and acknowledging that it's still even if it's like only five percent exists it's still there

02:11:29.440 so you're saying 95 cents to a dollar i don't i don't know what do you think is the number i don't

02:11:35.280 know well you said there's a wage gap you would have to articulate what that is it depends on each

02:11:39.280 person what do you think about google for example they did this internal audit hoping to reinforce some

02:11:46.320 of this feminist nonsense and it actually found that uh they were overpaying women

02:11:52.800 okay so this would this be evidence of sexism against men yeah they can take it down they can

02:11:57.840 do whatever they want why were they paying more women before that like because they the men were

02:12:04.000 okay so they were paying those women more because they were not paying women properly so they're going

02:12:09.840 to overcompensate that time because women were not getting paid a lot so then when they want to look

02:12:15.600 good they want to look good to society no no just i'm asking i'm asking did they find out why they

02:12:22.000 were paying women was a woman she well wouldn't you wouldn't you hold on so what do you mean by why

02:12:29.920 i mean or how they say like oh we accidentally did this or were they doing that on purpose well let me

02:12:34.240 ask you quite what what would it actually matter if it's on purpose or not because if they accidentally

02:12:40.400 said oh all these women's performances were just better and we gave them raises and we didn't realize

02:12:45.440 that it was only women wouldn't that have to play the apply the other way towards men too yeah but you

02:12:51.120 would make the claim if like there was actually merit for the men being paid more for whatever reason

02:12:55.760 that is uh you would probably make the argument that that would be due to like sexism and the wage gap

02:13:00.720 you can't say probably if if a company showed proof that all the men were working harder and

02:13:06.640 doing better than the women i would have zero problem with the men being paid more than the

02:13:10.560 women of that company wouldn't you just argue that oh it's just the boys club just it depends well

02:13:16.960 that's i mean isn't that the basis of your whole argument just depends though okay everything just

02:13:21.520 depends so if it's the case that you found a company where yeah the men were making 10 more you

02:13:27.440 would probably say there must be a wage gap due to sexism but if the women is it every single man

02:13:33.840 of the company even one who has no position that's better than a woman and the women are making less

02:13:38.800 than the men who they're higher than maybe then it's worth looking into but if it's a very obvious

02:13:44.720 just distribution of wealth like the men are actually doing better than the women and you know

02:13:48.880 some men are getting paid less but some women are getting paid more but most men are getting paid

02:13:52.640 more then you can say you know it's the company's it's the company's job to pay who's doing better

02:13:58.720 so you you do acknowledge there are scenarios in which the men are genuinely doing better ergo

02:14:04.400 they deserve to be paid more yeah i've never said that's wrong it's when a company pays men who are

02:14:10.160 even doing worse than women way more than women then it's a problem well how would you how would you

02:14:14.720 establish that if they can show proof and in which case i would agree with you they could bring some

02:14:20.000 sort of sex sex discrimination lawsuit okay okay but it's not clear to me if that's even happening

02:14:26.960 like on a wide scale okay again look i'll just i can only repeat myself here at this point the wage

02:14:34.480 gap is simply argued away it's an earnings gap it simply compares all the earnings of men to all the

02:14:40.160 earnings of women and not factoring in yeah okay you're talking about the wage gap like if a man and a

02:14:47.040 women apply for the exact same position the payment difference i'm not talking about more women don't

02:14:52.880 have jobs than men and women make less than men overall per capita of the entire u.s yeah couldn't

02:14:58.960 you see a difference between two men though so for example one of the men negotiates for a higher

02:15:04.400 salary than the other man does same job it's same exact job but i mean wouldn't you agree that there's a

02:15:10.720 there's a component of the company is going to make you an offer and then there's going to be a

02:15:14.400 negotiation some people might not even negotiate and they're just going to take the first offer

02:15:19.280 that comes to them goes back to her point about women stereotypically don't know how to negotiate

02:15:24.400 for themselves and ask more some men who maybe weren't raised with a good relationship with money

02:15:29.840 or how if their parents weren't wealthy they don't know that they can negotiate for more so it is all

02:15:34.160 based on i think how you were raised but also a lot of the time women who speak up from themselves

02:15:38.800 are told that they are like aggressive and disrespectful and rude and a lot of us men who

02:15:43.600 speak up from themselves about money are like ambitious and awesome and they're going for it

02:15:49.360 you know so it's it's just there's so many different factors i got to read a couple chats here we do have

02:15:54.080 to move it on but freaky men oh from the freaky men uh claim uh where is andrew these chair one hello

02:16:02.400 where is andrew i don't have the characters to explain how wrong chair one is about everything

02:16:09.280 she says ever seen a woman give in during a divorce or do they fight tooth and nail

02:16:18.160 if you're talking about andrew the one that said rape is good if the woman enjoys it sorry if the

02:16:23.520 woman at his essayed and she orgasms that's a good thing i don't think you're really idolizing the

02:16:30.400 correct person um you do realize i mean that's that andrew that's on andrew but that is on andrew

02:16:38.880 hold on where's the pickle jar so it's clipped entirely leaving out critical context such as prior

02:16:46.800 okay let me ask you a question if you were to say i think it's bad if uh or you you would frame it like

02:16:54.400 this you were to say i think it's bad when people uh are racist or hold on what's the best framing for this

02:17:03.280 uh

02:17:10.720 i can't think of an example you could agree though that there could be a situation where

02:17:15.760 somebody gets clipped out of context correct okay like and it could be edited in such a malicious way to

02:17:22.480 make it appear as if you said something that you didn't or left out context there's also ai well

02:17:27.440 that whole clip was um a little bit not use that like if you even did you let me ask you no no that's

02:17:34.080 fine let me ask you a question uh the clip in reference did you watch the whole debate well

02:17:38.160 any statement the question's not for you i'm just saying like it whatever he said no context would be

02:17:43.920 okay with that from start did you watch no from second one to second zero of the entire episode

02:17:50.960 that's multiple hours did you even did you even watch like the debate like when i say the debate

02:17:57.360 did you actually watch seconds of that debate did you just see clips no okay so you you tuned into our

02:18:03.600 video and you watched that segment yeah okay tell me what was proceeding from where the clip began

02:18:09.760 they were talking about grape and no they weren't wow you're a total sheep you're not you didn't even

02:18:17.600 watch the clip and you you you fell for it sorry you fell for it deceptively talking about they

02:18:24.160 andrew was doing an internal critique of uh oliver's position if i recall correctly oliver was saying

02:18:31.440 they were talking about something totally unrelated to that and oliver was saying well there's an exception

02:18:38.000 there's an exception to what you're saying and again you're gonna have to talk to andrew about

02:18:42.480 this not my fucking position um but and then andrew was saying well hold on let me test your logic here

02:18:51.200 this terrible thing uh if some of the people that this terrible thing happens to if they'd enjoy it

02:18:57.120 would that point towards that thing being good no what do you mean no that's literally the basis of it

02:19:04.880 being good right so he was doing an internal critique of oliver oliver by the way who has

02:19:11.200 some allegations towards him as it relates to when he was a bit younger he had been he exposed himself

02:19:16.720 to a minor and he said the following he said the following and this is actually funny so somebody could

02:19:22.080 do the same exact thing so i how do i frame it so i don't get fucking clipped for what somebody else

02:19:27.120 said he said that he thinks it's uh he said i manipulated women into doing things that they

02:19:34.240 didn't want to do that's what oliver said so okay that's the character of the person who did the

02:19:39.440 misleading clip of course right so but it's clear you didn't watch the whole thing i i said that i

02:19:45.680 didn't watch right but so the clip is deceptively edited okay in like honestly a completely disgusting

02:19:52.160 way of course to make it seem like andrew was suggesting something or essentially being a grape

02:19:57.440 apologist okay which if you actually watch the whole clip not the case at all okay well it was an

02:20:04.000 interesting take for him to say in that way anyway but that wasn't the question the question was just

02:20:11.920 where is andrew so i said if that's who you're idolizing maybe take a check on that and i wasn't

02:20:18.320 saying anything else um i don't even remember what the rest of the question for that person

02:20:23.200 do women give up during divorce oh i mean it depends on why they're divorcing i mean

02:20:30.960 women who divorce who get married super young to an old guy for money maybe no they don't give up or

02:20:37.680 whatever but women who are divorcing for genuine reason then yeah i don't really know what your point

02:20:44.880 what that do you think context do you think context matters for the divorce no just in general of what

02:20:50.800 well going back to the the andrew thing the andrew thing yeah of course context matters yeah um but

02:20:56.640 that statement was strange regardless well so before the show i actually warned andrew and i said

02:21:04.800 oliver is a clip chimp and i told i

02:21:08.240 fucking warned andrew was all i was i warned andrew and i was like andrew don't say some

02:21:14.080 shit that he's gonna fucking clip was the one he was debating against oliver oliver's the guy he was

02:21:19.840 debating okay yeah so he did it to jim bob who he debated against before coercion is bad so

02:21:27.200 oliver using coercion to sleep with women when you like to someone about anything that's still

02:21:33.440 considered uh grape if you lie about yeah if you lie about your identity that's still great

02:21:39.520 because the girl never consented for to your lie the woman never consented but that's not the point

02:21:43.920 the point is did andrew get clipped and he got clipped i guess but

02:21:50.000 yeah i mean look i'm not going to do the whole spiel with uh with all that so okay

02:21:55.760 all right inquisitor zeal uh can you read this please oh my god is it not pulling up hold on

02:22:03.760 go ahead read it chair one is correct about women being controlled by patriarchal culture

02:22:11.040 everyone was we've abolished that and our civilization is collapsing congrats you've

02:22:16.720 proven women must be oppressed forever that must be that's why the society is not

02:22:23.200 fucking working because of because we were oppressed for so long we're finally like saying no

02:22:27.440 we're finally like like mice in my picture i am a sex worker i see the real world for what it is i

02:22:34.800 hang out with ceos all the time like real ceos that you guys talk about working for i'm not going to

02:22:40.160 blow them up but like they like to party they like to hang out they cheat on their wives so all right

02:22:47.840 clint uh read this from clint she is delusional i am in a very competitive field the percentage of women

02:22:55.040 applying get hired more than the percentage of men applying get hired they also get paid the same

02:23:02.800 not based on sex but based on seniority seniority why are they hearing getting hired more because

02:23:11.360 prior they were not getting hired so it's like the leveling balance we need to balance it up all

02:23:15.920 men were working working working now women want to it's my only issue is at clean or whatever like

02:23:22.000 we don't know what you actually do in my industry guys don't get paid as much sitting in your room

02:23:26.560 like we don't know what you actually do yeah but my guys in my industry don't get paid as much we as

02:23:30.960 women we wake substantially more than them so it's like you want to say no i just think you know i'm

02:23:38.480 listening it's fascinating it's interesting but for me this conversation is almost um it's hard to

02:23:45.280 understand um as a woman because i'm listening to women i am a woman and i'm thinking why don't i

02:23:52.880 understand so i'm trying to focus on myself and see why what is it about me that so the question is

02:24:00.080 why i never in my life i felt discriminated as a woman why i never lived the experience of being

02:24:08.400 paid less as a man actually it's the opposite so why i never felt that i know you might have the

02:24:15.840 confidence to like ask for more a lot of women don't have that okay i was actually going to say

02:24:20.240 that when that was mentioned because she's it was mentioned here that men are more into hey i can

02:24:27.280 negotiate i can ask for excuse me i can do that and i've done it and i've done it and i do it i still do

02:24:33.040 it so i don't think that has to do with what if we if we have ovaries or or of course or a prostate

02:24:40.320 you know what i mean i don't think it has to do with a the if we're a woman or a man i think it has

02:24:46.800 to do with your education and what you choose because i charge 150 dollars for one piano class

02:24:54.640 you know and i am a flight attendant too and the men the guys that are working as flight attendants they

02:25:00.880 make the exact same money that i do yeah so that's what i find it fascinating i'm learning i don't

02:25:06.320 know i it i know it happened before women were able to all right i gotta move it on go ahead read this

02:25:11.360 sorry about that jang king meow jang i don't know how to say that his wife played a leading role in

02:25:19.200 enforcing purges during the cultural revolution she is directly tied to an estimate a hundred thousand

02:25:26.720 to a million deaths she was arrested and convicted for this but do you see how you refer to her as

02:25:32.880 that guy's wife you don't refer to her as who she actually is she is under her husband's probable

02:25:39.840 control i mean i can't prove it because i don't know her and she's not alive today to say that

02:25:44.960 but you literally referred to her as this guy's wife not this woman because it was his wife it was

02:25:53.120 not her you know who is um her husband no her husband is chairman mao the founding father yeah

02:25:59.680 people's republic of china of course if you simply bring up her name nobody would know like who the

02:26:04.480 heck this is so just to clarify they have to emphasize okay this is someone's wife but you don't

02:26:11.520 think chairman mao's wife was at all manipulated by chairman mao to do things you think she was

02:26:17.600 completely in control what if she wait hold on what if she was the fuck you scared me what

02:26:23.920 when i'm asking her though what's your question again you don't think chairman's now chairman mao's

02:26:29.760 wife was you think she was completely in control of her own decisions i mean i wasn't living in that

02:26:35.840 age so i'm not clearly sure about what happened in the history but unless you have some sort of

02:26:41.680 evidence to show me that she was manipulated by the husband yeah you're if you're you're making

02:26:47.760 the claim you're going to have to provide evidence that he was manipulating her what if it's actually

02:26:52.880 the case that she was like a more fervent ideological supporter of communism maybe she was more of a

02:26:59.760 hardcore communist than he was yeah quote unquote maybe but if you look at what happened in history it

02:27:08.240 wasn't like she was on the name of all the history books it was him he did all the things and if she

02:27:16.080 did part of it you'd have to assume that he had a play in that because at the time even still people

02:27:26.800 there men have more power even political power it's not fair to you to say well maybe she was pulling the

02:27:34.320 strings you don't know it's like okay but if you look at what was happening he was pulling the strings

02:27:41.840 you don't know if she was being manipulated exactly in a world where war is profitable people like

02:27:49.120 that's what the society will want to push for you know that's what that's what that's what the

02:27:55.600 society's please speak into microphones all right read this chair one women couldn't find work in the

02:28:02.960 1920s common female occupations included factory work domestic service teaching nursing and clear

02:28:12.000 clear how do you clerical work clerical work never seen that word before like typing bookkeeping bbc

02:28:20.960 thank you there wasn't there wasn't like a law there was not a law on the book saying women couldn't work

02:28:27.600 i know that however if you look at what was going on it was not common for women to work it was actually

02:28:37.440 discouraged you were seen as less than if you had a job such as that because your entire job was

02:28:44.480 supposed to be marrying a man and having children do you think that women wanted to work back then or did

02:28:50.160 they want to build families they were taught to want to build families is that a bad thing i mean

02:29:01.120 in the grand scope of what's happening in the world then yeah everyone should have been taught to be

02:29:06.480 equal men should take care of the family as much as women and women should work and so should men

02:29:10.720 everyone should work women should have time off for giving birth and pushing a whole human out of them

02:29:16.000 for sure but it shouldn't be a normalized thing that women shouldn't have to work at all and men

02:29:21.920 should only have to work because if you enforce that then companies only want to hire men and not

02:29:27.280 women and then women who don't have husbands are seen as less than than a woman who has a husband or

02:29:32.960 a man attached to her and that just reinforces the entire idea of the patriarchy of course women were

02:29:40.480 able to work they were seen as less than they were paid less than and they were like just discriminated

02:29:46.880 against if they tried to work they were paid less because it wasn't as hard of a job as the men did

02:29:53.040 because they weren't allowed to have as hard of jobs listen if you know wait wait i'm sorry

02:29:58.640 women didn't have women literally couldn't do the jobs they could but they were not as allowed

02:30:05.600 do you do you hold on do you think women have the same physical strength as men right they could

02:30:12.320 no no no no yeah but specifically no here but again yeah but into your mic down please tilt your mic

02:30:19.520 down but in today's world strength doesn't even matter we have machines but your claim was about

02:30:26.480 historical work okay where physical strength mining women can do that building women can do that

02:30:32.800 hold on no no no women don't have the requisite general strength to do a lot of these professions

02:30:41.120 if it was true why why if they if men and women's physical strength was equal then they would be in

02:30:48.160 these positions women have to work harder to gain more muscle that is true men have are easy it's

02:30:54.160 easier for men to gain muscle and be stronger but however okay go ahead in the coal mines in the

02:31:00.640 buildings in whatever women can still have jobs there not everything is based off of physical

02:31:07.040 strength our machines not taking over men and women well we're talking about but you're talking

02:31:12.320 just right you're talking historically but we're and a lot of this but a lot of this machinery still

02:31:17.360 today that makes physical labor easier still requires a degree of physical strength to operate

02:31:22.960 but you think like a jackhammer like instead of instead of swinging a pickaxe to like break up

02:31:29.280 stones we have like jack hammers but that it requires physical strength to hold the jackhammer

02:31:34.480 to keep it steady etc and are you saying women are incapable of having physical strength no that's

02:31:39.280 not what i'm saying i'm saying that generally speaking and you i'm assuming you're going to agree

02:31:43.840 with me on this generally speaking men are stronger than women descriptively in science men are able to gain

02:31:50.960 more muscle mass than women they're just naturally however stronger than women however if a woman

02:31:57.760 puts her mind to it and tries very hard she could still have a job similar to a man's

02:32:03.920 and how many how many withstand more pain why is transgender athletes such a controversy now if you

02:32:09.520 think men women have equal physical strength well i don't think transgender should be in a woman's

02:32:15.040 sport at all yeah that's um that's definitely everyone's opinion but the reason why it's such

02:32:20.960 a controversial topic is because these transgender women they still have more physical strength because

02:32:28.000 they were born to be they were born as men so she was right it's depending on when they decided to

02:32:33.680 transition if they transitioned at a certain time they never developed those men uh aspects and they

02:32:39.920 always develop only women aspects i mean i know i know a lot of trans women if a man starts transitioning

02:32:46.000 at 11 that's he never they don't have the male physical strength that gives them an advantage in

02:32:52.400 some sort of a sport i mean i would probably dispute this because my my position on this is that uh the

02:32:58.960 sole difference between men and women is not exclusively relegated to the endocrine system so what you're

02:33:04.880 talking about is uh if they're taking puberty blockers but like there's skeletal differences

02:33:10.480 there's other differences like lung capacity for example so again even if they do transition at a

02:33:15.840 younger age uh yes that's going to have that will have some impact on the musculoskeletal system

02:33:21.360 but there are still going to be certain differences between like like a trans women are more women and

02:33:27.040 more feminine than any any woman in this room like they're they take their womanisms very seriously

02:33:32.400 they take they take being like a feminine like a fucking job most women don't even care about

02:33:39.280 i'm sorry are you gonna are you gonna argue that trans women are more women like they're better

02:33:45.360 women than women so you're saying men are better women than men yeah because they know exactly what

02:33:49.920 you're gonna have to wrap your head around that one so is it so are men better women than women

02:33:54.640 my sister is more manlier than my trans friend my trans friend is more feminine more ladylike more

02:34:01.040 in her feminine aspect of her life than any like a transgender is not more feminine and more woman

02:34:09.040 than i am we are talking about physical strength here physical appearance like how nice your skin is

02:34:14.400 doesn't have to do anything with how you can excel in a sport yeah my feminine my my trans friend would

02:34:20.880 never even try to join a sport because she was she never like wanted to compete like i believe brian

02:34:26.640 was talking about the muscle mass and the lung capacity and i know a large percentage of american

02:34:31.920 men who only play video games can barely do a sit-up let alone a pull-up and they're okay can you do a

02:34:37.600 i don't know what we're talking yes i can i was a gymnast for most of my life i don't know what we're

02:34:41.040 talking about right now i think we're just going out we gotta stop we got here's what we have to do

02:34:45.120 though we we can't like always go to the exception i'm gonna sit here and agree with you there are

02:34:51.600 definitely individual women who are way stronger than men who could beat up men but what i'm talking

02:34:57.760 about is if we're just talking about generalities the majority of men are stronger than the majority

02:35:03.760 of women yeah it's biology

02:35:09.680 so yes is there like are there women out there who are stronger there's women there's women who are

02:35:15.520 stronger than me off the street and asked them to do a fitness test do i think that women might

02:35:21.680 perform better than men currently possibly as in if you pull 12 random people six men six women and

02:35:27.520 ask them to do a fitness test i've met a lot of out of shape men recently so i'm saying i think women

02:35:33.440 take care of themselves in their um youth because they know that they're supposed to be attractive for

02:35:38.720 men and there's a lot of men that have gone into very lazy professions where physical work

02:35:45.200 is a part of somebody over here wanted to weigh in or i just wanted to say something quickly i think

02:35:50.240 that brian is pointing at we are this side is pointing at exceptions exceptions to the rule but

02:35:56.640 in in general let's say the coal mines today not no time before if we have today the coal mines like

02:36:03.280 back then and we have today or back then let's say today listen today because i'm not going to talk

02:36:08.000 about the coal mines in 2025 yes no i'm not talking about like values i'm talking about strength okay let's

02:36:14.880 say today you put a man a 30 year old man and a 30 year old woman healthy without exception 100

02:36:22.400 healthy to go work at the coal mines let's see how many buckets of coal the men can bring out in two

02:36:28.800 hours and how many buckets of coal can the woman bring depends if they were taught how to work the

02:36:33.120 machine no no that's what i'm saying from zero they just learn you know healthy the man is going to do

02:36:40.400 more because it's biologically proven scientifically proven if i am the owner of that mine i'm going to

02:36:46.480 pay more than man because he brings 30 buckets and the woman brings 25 maybe and i think that's the

02:36:52.720 difference it's not because the man is better it's scientifically biologically it is what it is so he's

02:36:57.680 going to get paid better now as a work as a woman nothing comes to my mind that a woman is better doing

02:37:04.080 it i don't know i have to think about it maybe the woman is paid is getting paid better but i don't see

02:37:08.640 that has been underestimated is who gives more who works better i think we're talking about the

02:37:14.400 third variable as a minored in sociology you need three variables to be able to judge someone so you

02:37:19.360 can't just judge someone on man woman and their job you need a third variable well what's the third

02:37:24.000 variable like race class and gender you can't just judge someone off racing class wait you need three

02:37:29.440 variables to draw a conclusion minimum is but hold on why would you need okay if if the question is

02:37:37.520 stereotypes in america but stereotypes if the question is who is physically stronger on average

02:37:44.400 men or women what would the third variable like what's the third variable needed to determine

02:37:50.160 do they not work out so let's say no wait let's say let's say that a man and a woman are twins they're

02:37:57.360 born at the same time they work out they have the same eating schedule same workout schedule the man is

02:38:01.520 going to get stronger than the woman that is true and that because of biology she's correct however

02:38:07.120 does that mean that a woman is less than the man no that's not what we're talking about okay

02:38:14.560 in the coal mines that might have mattered we moved past that but the argument here is is

02:38:21.040 okay so if it is the case hold on hold on god damn let me finish please stop interrupting

02:38:26.400 if it is the case that historically the majority of available jobs were physical in nature that's

02:38:34.720 not true anymore doctors how many doctors are there makers clothing makers i would argue that even

02:38:43.760 like a shoemaker requires like muscular strength in the arms and dexterity and no but back then

02:38:51.920 i'm not an expert in like what is the call called when you're there's a specific term when you're a

02:38:56.400 shoemaker like a what's called cobbler cobbler like there's probably some level of physicality even

02:39:02.800 involved in that um in any case the if it is the if it is the case that the majority of jobs historically

02:39:10.640 did require some degree of physical strength this would seem to and if it's the also the case that men

02:39:16.880 are just generally physically stronger than women is it any surprise that men were more likely to

02:39:24.080 occupy these positions it was purely because of the way society was set up because if women were taught

02:39:31.600 to grow strong from a young age and fight to work jobs they could have easily worked those jobs and i get

02:39:37.840 that men are stronger physically however if a woman really tried she could get as strong as a man in that

02:39:45.760 capacity you sure yeah i'm positive so wait just let me ask you this then if we were to look at the

02:39:51.040 strongest so the the strongest man and the strongest woman yeah to have ever existed right or how about

02:39:57.200 alive today you would say that their strength is equal i mean i don't know the strongest man or the

02:40:02.720 strongest woman so i'm not sure however it's objective it's literally objective however here's 500

02:40:09.680 pounds can you lift it go ahead however in the olden days what we're talking about tell me the

02:40:15.840 olden days yeah there's no gyms there's just work there's just birth and work i agree if a woman was

02:40:22.720 taught to plow fields with her brother and do all that shit with her brother the same time same exact

02:40:30.400 teaching styles she could do the same thing so what what do you do when you're plowing a field i don't

02:40:36.480 know i've never plowed are you lifting things with your upper body strength no i've never plowed a

02:40:40.800 field you should try plow a stonework stonework cobbling work no i don't lift i run you're tall

02:40:47.840 i don't feel like lifting i don't want to be strong i think you could do well i probably could if i

02:40:53.520 really wanted to you would kill it mary thank you you would kill it in the fields thank you back to the

02:40:58.320 fields you go um look the strongest woman to have ever lived isn't even approaching like

02:41:06.480 well that's with everything we have today with the weight lifting and the whatever and people

02:41:10.880 spent their entire lives dedicated to getting stronger in the olden days what we're talking

02:41:16.160 about right now people did not care they just wanted to work and what i was saying is that even

02:41:23.440 though women would be capable to work those jobs society set them up to not work those jobs on purpose

02:41:30.720 that's all i'm saying well it's not just on purpose it is on purpose there's there's a there's

02:41:36.800 just a strength component to it that cannot be ignored but what i just said no but you're saying

02:41:42.720 well if these women and look i think that there are women who if they're really strong i think they can

02:41:50.640 do the job my argument is if you have a hundred men and a hundred women and both of them you put both of

02:41:57.840 them through uh well you're saying the same training the same training and they're both like

02:42:03.120 athletic birth same food same everything you do all of that those hundred men are going to be

02:42:09.520 stronger than all of those women well maybe the women would find out a way to do it without all the

02:42:14.880 strength what work smarter work smarter how okay here's the men do it yeah here's the task here's the

02:42:25.280 task i'm a dog move this pile of rocks that each weigh 70 pounds from point a to point b right okay

02:42:37.440 men due to their physical strength are going to be superior at women will come up with like a way to

02:42:42.560 pull it and so do men so did men i just don't think but the problem with your argument is there's no

02:42:48.960 historical value to say that women would not do better because women were never given the chance that's

02:42:55.040 all i'm saying there is a precedence for it women were never given the chance to try it's hold on

02:43:02.240 why you agree you agree it's a given that men are physically stronger okay and do you think

02:43:09.600 historically people also just knew men stronger than women because they forced women to not try yes

02:43:16.880 are you saying that physical strength is a social uh like a social structure a little bit you're saying

02:43:24.800 it's it's subjective social like physical strength muscular men are attractive muscular women are ugly

02:43:31.600 and manly that's a whole thing i've seen that everywhere women who weight lift women who do

02:43:36.800 boxing they're not seen as attractive because they're muscular and that is historic and i'm telling

02:43:42.800 you right now and that is today's world in the olden days a woman had muscle that's like vile that's

02:43:49.920 like against the rights of women against the wait what against the rights of women women have wait

02:43:56.080 what rights what hold on what are you talking about women because women were supposed to be weak look

02:44:01.600 pretty women are pretty and be tiny maybe you are women are weak maybe you are and also i just don't

02:44:08.720 understand like why do you have to make it a social thing because it's just not a good use of

02:44:13.600 efficiency if you send women to plot a few why don't you just take the advantage of your each other's

02:44:18.160 talents and maybe women are better doing some other jobs like maybe so like what giving birth

02:44:23.680 that's why that's not a job that's a part of life that's why you know picking the cherries you know

02:44:29.280 everyone has their own strengths we don't we're not trying to diminish men men have their their

02:44:34.800 strengths and we have our strengths we're trying to come together as a society we don't want to

02:44:39.680 get away from men we love men we want men to just treat us equally and like respect us and not

02:44:46.560 like because this is hard because the second men the second men say we're stronger we can do more

02:44:53.600 is the second they started having why are you guys comparing yourself your logic that they're

02:45:00.560 stronger biologically and what about it is it to me hold on hold on and what about it there's no i

02:45:07.120 want to hear what she wants to say about it say it go ahead say it men are biologically stronger no one

02:45:14.320 said no so therefore it's therefore they're going to be the ones doing the harder jobs that require

02:45:23.120 more strength i.e why women couldn't do the coal mine the construction the whatever you say that they

02:45:32.400 didn't get the opportunity to do it's because they're weaker than men and that's why they didn't

02:45:37.280 get the opportunity it's not because society made it this way yeah also i agree that men having more

02:45:43.520 physical strength doesn't mean they're superior to women and uh this is totally outside the topic

02:45:48.240 because a man who is physically we can still treat women like and can still disrespect them but do you

02:45:54.160 realize that especially in the olden days when strength actually mattered and even recently men

02:46:03.200 like say that being stronger and working in the olden days makes them better than women

02:46:08.720 because i've seen that everywhere arguing that nobody's arguing that what it sounds like can we

02:46:14.320 agree on this descriptively is it true that men are physically stronger than women they can be in

02:46:20.240 some certain aspects it's not just that they can be it's that they are i don't know i know you're

02:46:25.120 not going to grant that no i agree with yes there are weak men i don't dispute that if every man and

02:46:31.040 every woman on the entire planet did the exact same nutrition routine the exact same workout routine

02:46:38.640 physically yes men could be stronger could no would be would be would be stronger however that's not

02:46:45.200 the case so if they did studies and showed like they they did this study with like 10 000 women the

02:46:51.680 grip strength for example men have orders of magnitude greater grip strength than women so if we're

02:46:57.840 looking at upper body strength which is sort of predominated as it relates to physical labor

02:47:03.920 typically uh although there's you know there's some component of lower body strength but men are

02:47:09.200 also stronger in their lower bodies okay now but would you agree that descriptively that that's true

02:47:15.600 yeah does that mean they deserve more rights than women that's not what we're arguing we're just saying

02:47:21.040 that i never said they weren't stronger you seem to be making the kit you're arguing well i'm just saying

02:47:26.560 if the men and women started out in these jobs i've said since the beginning if they started off

02:47:31.680 the same job same diet whatever men would be stronger however that's not the case because

02:47:35.680 women have never been given the chance to do any of that okay sure but if if women were given the

02:47:40.800 chance at the same starting point to start working in these jobs and through like you know whatever

02:47:46.880 it's swinging a pickaxe or digging digging with a shovel okay i still would argue that even if you had a

02:47:53.760 woman working the same amount of hours as a man it's not even clear to me if they would have that

02:47:58.160 sort of uh ability to even work the same length of time as a man in a physical capacity uh they

02:48:05.200 wouldn't they would not be able to develop the same level of strength as a man even if they started at

02:48:11.040 the exact same time okay we have your point is a body like our body you're saying i'm wondering what

02:48:17.840 the point of the strength argument even is i think the point of the strength there is that it's nothing

02:48:24.320 to do with the men being better than women it's a scientifically proven it's biology and it's a fact

02:48:31.360 and because they're and because they are stronger they can do work that we cannot do and if we do it

02:48:36.720 we could do it but we're not going to do it as good as they do it because we don't have the strength

02:48:42.080 that they have and i would like to mention another thing with your permission um back then it wasn't

02:48:47.120 only that the women were not given the opportunity i think we all agree that back then as much as

02:48:52.720 women were not allowed to vote and they were putting down in other social uh you know points back then

02:48:59.440 people were more supporting family who would raise those kids who would take care of the kids

02:49:06.160 another thing they all also support um and family and religion and all the all all that was so close

02:49:15.760 together that the women were at home taking care of the kids doing the the you know the housework

02:49:23.200 and going to church on sundays it was a completely different thing how depressed were those women it was

02:49:28.960 different but today today today they don't it's completely different but you know what i support family

02:49:35.760 100 and that's what i was taught and i am so grateful for that and to see my parents together

02:49:41.520 until the last day and to see my mother taking care of me and my sister i'm grateful to heaven today and

02:49:48.000 my mother was not discriminated it was a different level of priorities but that's what i think but in

02:49:53.840 general the difference of priorities if a woman's priority is to be a homemaker and have a family which is

02:50:00.720 totally normal for women to want that like i'd love that it'd be great if that's a woman's priority

02:50:05.840 and the whole society the whole country the whole world believes that a woman's priority is to be the

02:50:11.680 homemaker and the family maker then that counts out the other women who don't want a husband who

02:50:17.360 don't have a husband who are gay who whatever all of those people wait but all of those people who are

02:50:24.240 taught that they have to be a family maker and a homemaker are suddenly left out of the job equation all

02:50:29.360 right and that's unfair okay a couple questions here and then i'm i've got to move this on um perfect

02:50:35.600 oh yes if i could show you for example if we are looking at the apex of both men and women so for

02:50:44.480 example the u.s women's soccer team got completely destroyed by uh like an out like a under 18 boys team

02:50:52.560 okay boys are innate having more no but what's the point of that question well the point the point

02:50:58.800 is that if we look at sports for example if we look at sports so if you look at elite female athletes

02:51:06.240 if they were men with their same scores they would not be able to even qualify to compete in the

02:51:12.560 olympics for example okay so if you look at running for example men are faster than women if you look at

02:51:19.120 strength sports men are stronger than women there's this website that we've pulled up a whole bunch

02:51:23.600 of times have a man get a wax let's see how strong he is then no let's can you finish can you finish the

02:51:29.440 point yeah the the point is essentially that if we look at sporting uh sporting events men in that

02:51:35.840 dimension and so you would have to agree that uh the elite female athletes most female athletes who are

02:51:42.640 elite start at a very young age so they have all the things that you mentioned the good nutrition all

02:51:48.880 this other stuff they've been involved in the sport since most olympic athletes have been doing the

02:51:53.680 sport since they were like children or whatever uh but if you were to place the women and have them

02:51:59.760 compete with the men the men would completely dominate so the strongest women the apex of women you put

02:52:08.240 them against the strongest men the men outperform the women even if the women had that base level

02:52:14.320 foundation of nutrition and like training that's why women and men compete separate first of all

02:52:22.080 second of all men are taller that is just part of life and they're also physically stronger okay they

02:52:26.880 have more muscle density okay okay but also men and women have different coaches oh no maryn you're

02:52:35.280 killing me here oh the coaches the coaches are different everything's different and even if

02:52:41.760 women get destroyed by the men's teams does that make them less of people that's not the argument

02:52:47.760 so what's the argument the argument is about you're you're you're saying okay i'm saying men men are

02:52:53.600 stronger than women and you're saying well hold on women didn't have the opportunity or there was like

02:52:58.400 social stigma or they didn't have the opportunity but and i'm saying you look at elite at elite athletes who did

02:53:03.440 have the opportunity uh and you compare elite male athletes to elite female athletes both had

02:53:08.560 opportunity the women are not capable of competing with the men i'm not trying to say that it's not a

02:53:14.800 biological fact that men can get stronger than women i'm trying to say that the fact that that is a re

02:53:20.880 like the reason that men are more like put on higher standards and have more rights than women because

02:53:29.600 of strength is not that's not the argument but that's not the argument but that's my argument

02:53:34.880 is that it shouldn't be that way you're saying yes biologically men are stronger than women i'm saying

02:53:41.360 even if that's the case it should not be a player in why women have less rights than men does that make

02:53:47.360 sense okay so but descriptively though i mean i'll it's kind of yes men are stronger than women yeah but it's your

02:53:54.480 point is a bit off topic but i'll actually bite with you um so you would agree that uh you'd agree

02:54:01.040 that right do you believe in rights yes okay what is a right what do you mean what what you said you

02:54:07.760 were talking about rights what are rights just the like we have a set of rights but our rights human

02:54:14.400 rights but our rights an invention of the mind are they an invention of society or are there like

02:54:20.080 inherent rights invention of society okay so you agree that they're inventions of society yeah okay

02:54:27.280 so how do you enforce your rights what do you mean how do how do uh nations enforce their rights or

02:54:35.360 people in creating laws okay and who enforces those laws men okay and then you might even say like

02:54:42.240 soldiers for example let's say you're a country and another country invades you and then they're going

02:54:48.720 to then impose their worldview and their government uh you know whatever their laws on you but maybe

02:54:55.280 you disagree with their laws right but you would argue and i'm speaking descriptively here i'm not

02:55:00.000 saying what should be i'm saying what is what you would agree that like a suit a country with a superior

02:55:05.520 superior military force could invade another country and impose their laws on that country yes that happens

02:55:12.000 all the time happens all the time and they do that through force right so they do that and who has a

02:55:17.200 monopoly on force men men okay so when it comes to feminism you're saying like talking about women's

02:55:23.760 rights you would agree that women have to appeal to men to uh instill their rights yes oh okay i mean

02:55:33.120 then there's no argument then but it shouldn't be that way that's my argument so how should it be

02:55:39.600 women should just be respected as human beings but it's not the way it is but that's not but that's not

02:55:45.680 descriptively by the way men can have their rights taken away too by other men of course so but it

02:55:51.920 ultimately does come down to force so feminists in order for feminism to exist you claim you claim you're

02:55:57.040 not a feminist you claim you're misandrist but in order for women to have rights men have to grant

02:56:02.640 those rights right now yeah that's the way it works right okay do you not you were talking about

02:56:11.280 why physical strength is a component here okay

02:56:17.920 all right i think you brought it full circle and i at least understand what what the point you're

02:56:21.680 trying to understand he's trying to say that men have physical more physical force and that's why

02:56:25.280 women have to submit to them or whatever that's not versus power that's not look i'm not making a

02:56:30.640 should claim i'm just speaking descriptively what's happening i'm saying i agree that is because

02:56:36.240 because men have a monopoly on force that there is going to be a natural tendency to move towards

02:56:43.600 a patriarchy but i also believe that it's not just men having more strength it's that men rely on their

02:56:50.880 strength more whereas if women were in charge since day one and women controlled everything there'd be way

02:56:58.640 less emphasis on force and strength to give rights and give laws it would all be more methodical let

02:57:05.920 me ask you a question though if there's a dispute between two nations and they can't figure this out

02:57:12.640 through diplomacy what do you think is going to be the end result of this conflict depends on the

02:57:18.400 conflict depends on the nation drop some acid have them have them girl um just give these little

02:57:27.280 little well let's say let's say let me ask you a question that would be the best way to actually

02:57:33.440 have a genuine conversation let me ask you a question let's say that there was a matriarchy

02:57:38.000 and this matriarchy was the most peaceful matriarchy that ever existed however they were there was

02:57:43.760 another tribe and this tribe was a patriarchy and uh this tribe was belligerent and uh they were

02:57:52.720 interested in your territory they wanted to conquer your territory uh wouldn't you have to have some

02:58:00.400 sort of defensive force even if you were not like interested in going to war you would have to maintain

02:58:05.920 a military my question is who's leading the person who's invading is it a man yeah sure i'll

02:58:12.080 say it's a man so if it was a woman i don't think they'd invade you don't think they would

02:58:15.920 no i don't that's interesting uh so you think you just think women are less violent or yes can

02:58:21.840 ask you a question uh related to this bringing it back to uh dating and relationships i guess uh

02:58:28.240 how could this actually be the case if for example if we look at uh homosexual relationships so

02:58:34.960 if you look at lesbian relationships the incidence of violence in lesbian relationships is highest

02:58:41.520 so it goes like this lesbian relationships highest levels of domestic violence you look at heterosexual

02:58:47.840 relationships the they're in the middle and then you look at gay homosexual two men uh gay homosexual

02:58:54.160 relationships the instance incidence of domestic violence is the lowest when you have two men it's

02:58:59.040 medium well in this scale it's medium when there's a man and a woman and the incidence of domestic

02:59:05.360 violence is the highest when you have two women how could it possibly be the case then when you have

02:59:10.000 two women who are conceivably more peaceable than men are how could it then be the case that the

02:59:15.200 incidence of violence is higher in lesbian relationships well first of all i'd love to see

02:59:18.960 that article second of all you can it's second of all i think women would be more likely to report it

02:59:24.560 if it's a with a woman rather than a man they're scared of actual death when they're being abused by a

02:59:30.640 man and they're less likely to report it and i think gay men it i mean i don't i've never seen this

02:59:36.240 article but they're still men right they're still men and your position is that men are more violent

02:59:40.640 than women well gay men aren't in positions of also what do you think about the statistics what

02:59:45.920 what do you think about the fact that women are more likely to commit infanticide

02:59:50.080 so infantic infantic they're more likely to kill their children

02:59:54.000 well men do that too i agree yes men do that too but women are more likely to kill their children

03:00:02.560 you mean abortion or post-birth i'm not wait i'm not even talking about abortion i'm talking about a

03:00:07.680 birth post-birth yes killing their child correct women are more likely to kill their children

03:00:15.040 well men are more likely to leave i don't know what your point is

03:00:17.440 his point is that we all have issues his point is that men is he's trying to say that

03:00:26.560 that women can be very violent as well as i gotta let some chats come through we got clane here

03:00:31.600 sorry for the delay clane clane donated two hundred dollars chair one is that low-cut top design to

03:00:38.080 fight the patriarchy nothing like a bunch of three hundred and fours wearing revealing clothes and

03:00:44.320 arguing against men let's see you don't sell yourself for a day on the yacht first of all you

03:00:49.840 spelt yacht wrong second of all i'm wearing a tank top under my shirt to hide my boobs i'm sorry i have

03:00:54.640 big ones sorry you're looking um and third of all no i'm not trying to fight i'm patriarchy with

03:01:02.320 this shirt i just own it two hundred dollars bricks and play her the video of men doing dangerous jobs

03:01:09.600 i know men do dangerous jobs so do women so what's your point uh here pull it up pull the discord up

03:01:14.720 really quick i'll just we'll rapid fire through it thank you chef dill pickles appreciate it um

03:01:18.880 while you're getting that pulled up here uh i'm gonna read this super quick uh let me know when you

03:01:24.960 have the discord pulled up do you have the discord pulled up uh chair for reverse rachel

03:01:33.120 dolezal is arguing men and women's relative strength versus absolute strength men's absolute

03:01:38.320 strength almost always outdoes that of a woman's which is general generally what matters most what

03:01:43.280 matters most in what context though all contexts any context conversational context where there's no

03:01:51.360 strength used if men want to put every single woman in a cage do you think they could i don't know

03:01:58.400 why would they want to do that that's disgusting do you want to respond he called you rachel dolezal

03:02:02.480 on the doppelganger i don't know who rachel so-and-so is but um yeah she's she was a white woman who

03:02:09.200 said she was black i mean people have asked me my whole life are you sure your dad's not black so

03:02:16.480 i don't know okay that's cool i mean i straighten my hair you have it up really quick person all right

03:02:21.200 we'll show it we'll show really quick okay so uh go to the or yeah pull it up and i'll tell you where to

03:02:25.600 go it can be on behind the scenes but pull it up scroll down on the left hand side nope on the left

03:02:33.120 go down to uh men at work there it is uh scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up uh

03:02:43.440 all the way up to the very top uh yeah up to the top all right you got um here play the iron workers one

03:02:55.600 uh mute the audio mute the audio please beautiful so look the reality is when it comes to some of

03:03:02.480 these physically laborious jobs um i'm waiting i think we're just seeing the this thing like there's

03:03:08.720 going to be the man is going to grab that steel beam okay and there is a component of strength with

03:03:15.040 like we're waiting for it like you need to be able to be like have strength to hold that thing okay

03:03:25.600 you don't think any woman could do that well also for him to get up to the position that he's

03:03:30.000 currently in he needs to be able to they literally climb up steel beams and the reality is like it's

03:03:36.960 not clear to me if women want to do this sort of work like i don't think women want to scale

03:03:43.680 skyscrapers i don't think these men dream of scaling skyscrapers it's just that job position

03:03:50.400 wait look right here so he's grabbing it he's grabbing it okay and he's redirecting it he's

03:03:56.400 moving it he has to literally like it's literally attached to wires and yeah i know it's being lifted

03:04:01.760 by machinery but he is going to redirect it and there is going to be a strength component here but

03:04:07.520 the the main thing is he's also has to climb they literally have to climb up those things and you'll

03:04:13.680 exile that i'll show you a different one like no offense to these men hell no i wouldn't do that

03:04:18.800 most men here mad respect to these men no offense i think i could climb that yeah go for uh is there

03:04:26.080 where to make it bigger wait hold on no no here x out of that x out just you know i'm not gonna lie

03:04:32.240 here click even though it's so nice and impressive that he's doing it i do personally believe that if

03:04:37.520 you put me in that beam right now i could climb the whole thing just on the video that you just had

03:04:41.440 click it no no the other hold on the other one that's i don't know why i won't uh hit those three

03:04:48.880 dots in the corner there oh yeah full screen full screen full screen all right play it

03:04:55.440 he's he's doing like a majority of women don't have the physical strength to do that

03:05:01.840 but so the have you ever been in a skyscraper yeah yeah you can thank men for that

03:05:10.160 like all the thank us for all the things like we could always tally it like this

03:05:14.400 no but the reason you can thank men for that is because the men were hired for that if a woman

03:05:20.800 women don't want to do this kind of work why men don't want to do that kind of work that is blue

03:05:26.480 color work i agree with you but there are some fucking these iron workers uh they're they're

03:05:32.720 amazing amazingly brave men incredible they're also a little crazy i would not want to do this

03:05:39.760 if you offered me good money i would not be opposed you know give me your number and i think i could

03:05:44.880 climb that beam and wait pull it back up pull it back i don't think you'd be able to do it as

03:05:49.120 efficiently whatever we should we should because you're weaker hold on we have techno trooper hold

03:05:54.720 on hold on because you're a woman but have you measured that me versus that guy on the beam

03:05:59.120 i mean we can clearly see that he's way bigger than you you haven't seen me climb that big idiot

03:06:05.200 and did you know that shorter men are actually a little bit stronger okay and taller men okay

03:06:14.480 all i said is i think i could also do that and you said i couldn't for no reason other than that i'm

03:06:19.680 a woman because i never said that you could i literally i said if you were listening i said if you

03:06:24.560 were listening to me i said that you couldn't do it as efficiently as quick as as literally why

03:06:32.480 not my bad because because i'm a woman yes because you're weaker but you don't know that you're less

03:06:38.080 you're not as strong as a man you're not as strong as men get it through your head that get it through

03:06:44.560 your head but you literally don't know that you really tried explaining that to you and it wasn't

03:06:49.760 going through your head no that you really agree you don't know that man and you don't know me you

03:06:54.240 met me today you go to the gym every day and lift a thousand pounds and he could go to the gym every

03:07:00.080 day yeah you go what do you do i run can you lift weight 95 pounds who gives any you don't know who i

03:07:07.520 am i could do that you could and you don't know who i am if you and i went to the gym after this you

03:07:12.960 could bench 95 pounds incline bench because that's what i can do for reps by the way but you

03:07:20.240 literally don't know me so yeah i could do that you don't know okay you don't know yeah i want to

03:07:25.280 see the proof though i want to see the proof of you being a good person i don't see it

03:07:30.480 what's the argument there that you are being disrespectful to me for no reason

03:07:36.560 and you're i said i said i said that you weren't as strong as a man and you say that that's

03:07:41.120 disrespectful as that man climbing the beam you have no clue who that man is you have no clue who

03:07:45.440 i am you're making an assumption based on gender for no reason i mean and that's why i'm being

03:07:50.640 annoyed at you right he clear i'm sorry you're annoyed at me he clearly got hired for the job

03:07:56.400 which means that he's strong enough i didn't apply for that job go ahead do it let's see if you get

03:08:02.400 hired oh i seriously doubt you i will bet all the money i have which isn't much but i will bet all the

03:08:07.920 money i have that you would not get hired why because i'm a woman yes because you're not strong

03:08:15.120 enough to do that but you don't you don't know that either he's by your team he's silent

03:08:24.960 you know what to be fair i'm gonna i'm gonna come construction companies i'm gonna come to the

03:08:29.840 defense of marin here uh the behind i saw the burning man oh my god what is this non-sequitur

03:08:34.960 shit um i saw behind the scenes i saw behind the scenes marin actually bench pressed charlie kirk

03:08:41.600 believe it or not when she was on the set of jubilee she benched him like for for reps i don't think

03:08:46.400 he'd let me touch him for a million dollars she was bench pressing charlie kirk so you heard it here

03:08:50.800 first but you know even if i couldn't even if i couldn't climb that skyscraper you don't know that

03:08:57.040 because you don't know who i am i never said but you did say that i never said that you couldn't i

03:09:02.560 said you did i said you couldn't do it as efficiently as a man as biologically you are not

03:09:12.960 as strong as a man as the man that we saw in that video then we don't know that he's older than me

03:09:18.320 he's done it for longer than me give me time perfect perfect you just you just literally answered

03:09:24.320 you literally just won this argument for me you just said that he's done it for longer

03:09:28.400 yeah and that he's older which means that he has more experience so let's say i'm his age and i did

03:09:32.640 it for the same time as him you don't know if i could do it quicker than him you're making an

03:09:36.480 assumption but that's a sexist assumption scientifically and i'm happy that you think

03:09:40.800 that's an okay assumption i'm happy for your boyfriend who probably enjoys that he does he does

03:09:45.840 oh biologically scientifically he can do it better than any woman but you don't know that yes i do

03:09:53.440 it's biology it's not me it's not that it's not that i know it it's biology that men are way stronger

03:10:01.760 so he can do it better than you and you know i'm happy that neither of you are gonna ever gonna have

03:10:06.240 to do those things it doesn't make him better than us well he makes him a man and that and what makes

03:10:12.320 it makes us a woman is that we do things that we do much better than men do and that's the way we

03:10:18.080 are created women do certain things that are much better than men and vice versa i can think of so

03:10:24.560 many things i don't know at this moment nothing comes to my mind but there's so many things that

03:10:28.640 invented the internet that that and i so and then that makes me proud and the man took the credit and

03:10:34.640 well i didn't even fake news fake news fake news yeah good talk all right let me move this on here

03:10:41.600 guys so we have a couple chats coming through guys if you want pull it up uh get get a message

03:10:47.040 rita's 100 tts is 200 streamlabs.com if you want to get it in uh lucas says holy shit am i in the

03:10:55.120 twilight zone chair one you are the poster child of retardation women can get as strong as men do you

03:11:00.960 realize that the average testosterone level in prime age women is 10 ng a lot of men are taking i'm

03:11:08.960 continued i'm i'm also r slurred because i don't know what that means um uh or what it stands for

03:11:14.640 i know i know you know do you want me to answer that uh well he has a part two to it so hold on

03:11:19.680 felicity my fiancee wants to know what plastic surgery you've had chair one who's the most

03:11:24.400 influential woman of history your quick answer and then none no plastic surgery felicity nope okay uh

03:11:30.400 most influential influential woman in of history it might be malala who fought for women's education

03:11:37.120 but i don't know there's been a lot of influential feminists however a lot of them have been silenced

03:11:41.440 so i don't know they've all been silenced evil patriarchy evil patriarchy so you're putting words

03:11:47.040 in my mouth thank you you're welcome um whereas the average testosterone level in prime age men

03:11:52.000 is 950 uh even today chair one you say you have a boyfriend if so is there a strategically situated

03:12:00.400 worn out chair in the corner of your bedroom i don't know what that means i think he's referencing

03:12:05.120 the cuck chair is there what does that mean the cuck chair like someone watches no he's saying that

03:12:11.680 your boyfriend watches he's saying your boyfriend he's saying don't shoot the messenger go for it

03:12:16.560 that there's a cuck chair i don't know what that means so it's like okay if if you're a cuck you're

03:12:21.840 a dude who's a cuck you watch you watch your girlfriend get effed by other dudes so and he

03:12:29.200 sits in the corner there is no chair of that sort i'm only with one man so he stands no he stands

03:12:35.760 in the normally thank you oh no no i that okay whatever hey don't shoot the messenger it was him

03:12:43.760 it was he stands what do you mean by that instead of sitting in the cuck chair he just stands in the

03:12:48.240 corner and cries no such an instigator i said i only have why am i i'm not the instigator she's

03:12:54.480 the instigator felicity over here she stands speaking she she speaks a lot trust me with my eyes

03:13:02.160 subconscious anyways yeah all right we have this uh oh shop.whatever.com j misnomer uh yo thank you

03:13:08.800 for the uh merch purchase guys shop.whatever.com if you want to get a t-shirt or a hoodie or something

03:13:14.000 we'll uh shout you guys out thank you for that uh and then we have we have some super chats we're

03:13:18.720 gonna finally get to uh there's quite a three quite a few all right so we have chef dylan fun fact the

03:13:27.600 national intelligence law of 2017 of the chinese communist party requires chinese citizens to

03:13:33.360 cooperate with state intelligence efforts i don't know that how is it even relevant to the show i

03:13:40.080 they they really i don't know do you want to respond to that or no i mean i need to see the

03:13:46.560 exact citation um definitely need to fact check even further but i just don't think this is even

03:13:51.360 relevant right and we already talked on tangents for like hours we talked a lot of a lot of tangents

03:13:57.360 here i thought i'm on a dating show yeah we'll get there all right lucas chair three omg my tongue

03:14:03.280 in cheek attempt at levity fell flat this is the guy who sent in the oh the chat earlier about the not

03:14:09.440 the most recent one but about like the tax stuff uh i'm a he says he's a partner at an am law 100 new

03:14:15.760 york new york city firm over 1 000 attorneys he's i have tax counsel in-house and yes my tax partner

03:14:23.200 does separately review the allocations section in my draft jv agreements do you want to respond to our

03:14:30.320 good friend lucas that's great we can connect off the show i'd like to be mentored more all right lucas

03:14:38.400 she's kind of based she's kind of a legend lucas so if you want to hire her at your super fancy

03:14:44.720 snazzy new york law firm are you looking for not right now all right sorry lucas sorry i just want

03:14:52.240 to remain loyal to my current company for uh for some time because i just got a new job i just started my

03:14:58.320 new job two weeks ago two weeks ago i may remain responsible for my company uh james craig men work

03:15:05.840 harder than women thoughts based on what are you even talking about in general craig james craig you

03:15:14.320 might have to send a follow-up there but uh men work harder than women thoughts i think he's saying

03:15:19.360 in general do you think men work harder than women no no definitely not not at all do do they work more

03:15:26.400 hours than women depends where you're looking and you're looking at in general i don't know i agree that

03:15:32.240 some women work more hours than some men exactly but there are more men that work more hours than

03:15:37.840 women but do we are we going to look at why or are we just going to look at the basic facts and not

03:15:42.800 even talk about why well we should also do that with with the wage gap which would discredit the wage

03:15:48.400 gap if we look at why because the wage gap is simply an assertion that's it it's just consider

03:15:55.040 raising children work or taking care of the household work or are we only talking about work that we get

03:15:59.440 paid for true like a clock that we that's a good point because that's there are women that work

03:16:04.400 jobs and take care of a household and they're working pretty much 24 7. we have lucas chair one

03:16:09.040 you truly have a room temperature iq but here's a thought exercise for you go out and walk around

03:16:13.920 for a few hours and compile a list of everything you see that was not put there by nature i promise you

03:16:19.360 that every damn thing on your list was both invented and built by a man who brought the man on earth

03:16:24.240 like come on no but that's not the point that i'm talking about the point is why was everything

03:16:29.760 only built by men because only men were given the opportunity no because they're stronger

03:16:35.360 you fucking idiot no men also know i'm the fucking idiot here yeah i'm the fucking idiot

03:16:42.160 why why is she an idiot though because she's saying oh men are stronger that's why everything was

03:16:47.840 invented by a man first of all inventions have nothing to do with physical strength second of all it's

03:16:52.800 because of the education opportunities that men were granted for years and years and decades and

03:16:58.000 decades that women were never granted i understand that men have more physical strength than women

03:17:03.440 biologically that has nothing to do with so many of the things you're trying to talk about he literally

03:17:09.440 showed you proof what videos of how you think that was proof that women that was just videos

03:17:17.280 of men are you dumb the building we're in right now is literally proof no are you serious the

03:17:25.680 building we're this was built by this was built by men this building was probably every single but

03:17:30.960 are you saying that it couldn't be built by women because it could be it could easily be built by

03:17:36.880 women i suppose it you i suppose it could there you go ten years later but yes logically

03:17:43.760 the men logically it could be built by women but like practically no women were are you having

03:17:52.480 a child fan am i an andrew tate yeah i want to know i don't really know much about him what about

03:17:57.840 i'm a charlie kirk fan oh she's a charlie kirk fan that makes sense it it all makes sense okay hold

03:18:04.720 on let me it's all being put together uh lucas chair one chair one continued beyond that even today the

03:18:11.120 average iq of a man is 99 and 97 for a woman more importantly however seven out of eight people

03:18:17.040 in the top one percent of iq are men sorry love i know it's triggering but every single man in this

03:18:22.560 chat would dominate intellectually but do you realize that that's because men are offered greater

03:18:28.800 opportunities of education men men do worse men do worse in college they do worse in college

03:18:36.000 you're literally saying that men are intellectually more smarter wait maryn uh you're saying can you

03:18:43.440 repeat that last thing you just said men are offered greater opportunities for education than women are

03:18:49.200 are you sure about that i'm positive so just to be okay so the statistics would seem to disagree with

03:18:54.400 you how so well ever since uh it's either 1979 or 1980 there's been more women who go to college than men

03:19:01.520 that's two uh four decades excuse me four decades of there being a greater representation of women

03:19:07.200 in higher education this number today is something like i think it's 60 40 split but if you look at

03:19:12.720 a high number of college graduates facing unemployment so but her claim of people going to college has

03:19:19.760 changed in general i don't see how this is a rebuttal to my america has shipped out all blue collar jobs so

03:19:26.320 there's a lot less physical labor jobs i'm over here you're way over here maryn your point was that

03:19:32.000 there's less opportunity for what women as it relates to higher education women predominate in

03:19:36.480 higher education is this due to sexism against men yes or no if you look let's the hold on if you look

03:19:43.840 at the decades before like what 2010 and all the way through history all of that time men have been

03:19:52.560 offered way you're nodding your head no but when were women allowed to even go to college and not

03:19:59.200 like finishing school they've always been allowed to go to university point blank i think there are

03:20:04.400 maybe if you came from a wealthy family where they could afford to send you i'm gonna be fair i do

03:20:09.360 believe that i and i don't know the specifics there were some universities that did bar women but yes but

03:20:17.440 women were able to go to university but back to the point here if you're going way back historically

03:20:22.240 you're saying it was only 2010 and after where there was some sort of shift when it came to

03:20:27.680 women's access to higher education it was either it was 1979 1980 1979 1980 when there were more

03:20:36.880 women that's four decades more women who started going to college than men so what this means is so

03:20:42.240 women who went to university in 1979 1980 they're now retiring so you've essentially had an entire workforce

03:20:50.080 through the period of that workforce where women started going to university more than men can i

03:20:54.720 see that uh yeah we could pull it up i believe uh mary going to the discord i have it in the let me just double

03:21:00.880 check here on my phone i know i pretty sure i have it posted did you go to college i dropped out of college

03:21:07.360 but so do you think education matters in how you enter the workforce but also i think sometimes it

03:21:16.560 can be helpful i guess in a conservative household men are often pushed towards college more than women

03:21:23.200 men are this isn't true but okay and how do you know that how do you know that your claim is true

03:21:29.920 because there's data about it you can look it up conservative if this is actually the case how could it

03:21:35.280 possibly repeat your claim really quick what claim you your claim that i think you said and correct

03:21:40.880 me if i'm wrong a lot that there's a greater push are more pushed towards furthering a greater education

03:21:46.480 and becoming wealthy than women how could that possibly be true if there are more women who go

03:21:51.120 to university than men so how could that be true because women are slowly starting to try and do not

03:21:56.640 just slowly since he's saying that the statistics are saying men are going into blue-collar trade which is

03:22:01.920 not university and that women are going into higher education which means the women can become the

03:22:06.720 architects and the designers and the men can still i do have it mary pull up the infographics tab in the

03:22:11.440 discord keeps happening i hope that grows to be complete if you were oppressed for so many years you're

03:22:16.320 finally gonna have the opportunity to do it so men are failing because it's on their own demerit they're

03:22:23.360 playing video games they're wasting their own lives they're not they're not trying to have goals like we do

03:22:28.320 wait so just to be clear so if there's when men have some sort of negative life outcome it's due to

03:22:34.800 men's choices but when women have negative life outcomes it's due to other men and sexism so men

03:22:41.120 have agency women don't i actually think i have the greater feminist position men have agency women have

03:22:48.240 agency if there's a negative life outcome it's not because of some evil boogeyman patriarchy it's because

03:22:54.240 of women's choices when men have negative life outcomes it's often due to their own choices too

03:22:59.360 to be fair there are sometimes uh external circumstances that can push you towards negative

03:23:05.680 life outcomes but i think a lot of negative life outcomes come down to individual choice can you

03:23:11.920 pull it up please no it's all the way to the top just go to the infographics tab scroll just pull it up

03:23:18.640 and pull uh all the way to the top please all the way to the top okay so no uh scroll down it's one

03:23:24.720 down college okay click on the first one and we're going to tab through these so percentage of u.s

03:23:29.920 population who have completed four years of college or more from 1940 to 2021 by gender so it starts in 1940

03:23:39.280 uh completed okay so this is completed so this would factor in going even further back

03:23:46.240 go to the next one for me u.s college degrees by gender 2017 uh so this is in 2017 there's 100 males

03:23:54.880 for every 141 females male 41 females 58 that's from the u.s department of education and it includes

03:24:02.880 associates bachelors masters and doctors degrees next uh so this is the year this is the male enrollment

03:24:09.840 female enrollment and the number of more females so in 1980 there were uh half a million essentially

03:24:18.240 half a million more females going to university than males uh if we go to i can't see it because

03:24:24.560 we're blocked but like 2010 uh there were 7.8 million men enrolled in university and 10.2 million

03:24:34.240 women enrolled in university 2.4 million more women than men enrolled that's in 2010 but it goes all the

03:24:42.160 way back to 1980 next u.s college enrollment by gender 1947 to 2019 okay this was the one i was looking

03:24:49.200 for u.s college enrollment by gender so if you look there uh the bluish one it's a little hard to tell

03:24:56.560 in month bluish one is men the green one is women in 1980 that's when the overlap changes

03:25:04.000 so and even if you look historically the gap between in 1950 the gap between men and women in 1950s so there

03:25:12.080 were more men in 1950 if you look at the gap in 20 from the 2000s on or even 1990 on that discrepancy

03:25:21.040 is greater in favor of women so there's more women going to enrolling in university next

03:25:28.000 oh no i was about to say can i can i say something just one let's get through these also this is uh men

03:25:33.200 and women study different things this is sort of related to the weight uh the wage gap here uh but let's

03:25:38.880 just go next uh this is for where is this total number of students undergraduate this is for one

03:25:48.000 of the i think this is for ucsb uh 61 percent women 39 percent uh men next percentage of all college degrees

03:25:59.040 female versus male that's another one next total fall enrollment same i think next okay this is the

03:26:08.640 university of california system uh the gender ratios blue male red female so you see there's an

03:26:15.840 over-representation of women in the gender ratios for every single uh university of california system

03:26:23.200 with the exception of uh uc san diego there's a little bit more men and then ucsc looks that looks

03:26:31.760 about equal um next and then uh men or boys are less likely to earn a high school diploma oh this

03:26:40.560 is about high school okay less likely to earn a high school diploma less likely to meet uc california and

03:26:46.880 california state university requirements less likely to earn a bi-literacy seal less likely to earn a

03:26:52.560 golden i don't know what that is but okay uh so i don't know this idea that men are over-represented in

03:26:59.280 universities has not been the case for four decades well i didn't say over-represented i said push

03:27:03.840 towards it more and like and wait and really quickly let me say yeah go ahead do you think any

03:27:10.320 of this has to do with the fact that men know that they're more likely to get jobs even without a

03:27:14.560 college degree and women have to work more harder like harder to get a job and they have to have

03:27:20.080 more college education than a man does in order to even get there i wouldn't say that that's the reason

03:27:25.360 okay well it could be one maybe i mean i don't see a difference i don't think there actually is

03:27:29.920 much of a difference in terms of wages between like an uh let's say both of them have a high school

03:27:35.040 diploma between a man and a woman and i think there's actually certain positions where a woman is

03:27:40.560 probably better suited to get i think a higher paying job right out of high school than a man

03:27:46.400 and i'm not even going to factor in sex work to my argument because i just think that's

03:27:49.760 that's that wouldn't really even suit myself but work on youtube and like youtubers those people

03:27:55.120 don't go to college and they make a lot of money women are also i'm just saying in general like a

03:27:59.280 lot of social media people too i would also love to see the confirmation bias on these articles you

03:28:04.320 know what i'm talking about the ones i just pulled up yeah confirmation bias when you look for certain

03:28:11.440 things you'll find certain things was all this about california or was it about the entire world

03:28:16.560 it's well some of the no well some of those were for california the others were for the entirety

03:28:22.400 of the united states oh about the world just just the us yeah where i'm talking about yeah the us

03:28:28.560 okay but i i would suspect this pattern is the same in other western countries now if you wanted

03:28:33.520 to make arguments about eastern countries that's not really that's not my area of expertise but i

03:28:38.800 would actually be probably willing you know what i'm not sure actually we don't have to talk

03:28:43.760 about because i don't know well it could i could talk about religion there could be a case that

03:28:49.360 there's more men going to university in some of these eastern countries but could if i if i was

03:28:54.880 looking at like certain asian countries i'm or like india for example i'm not actually sure

03:29:00.480 if it's the case i don't but i don't know so i don't want to make a a claim that's just i don't

03:29:05.520 know well if we're not talking about feminism in the entire world and just the us the us is way more

03:29:11.680 progressive than the entire rest than most of the rest of the world we got a chat coming through

03:29:16.080 here and then we'll get the rest of the chats pasty george donated 200 and chair one proves why

03:29:23.680 we have a child birth rate crisis by reciting her feministic bullshit good job well first of all you

03:29:30.880 have no clue how many children i want to have in the future how many do you want i don't know probably

03:29:36.000 more than two two maybe more i don't want them to be lonely i'm an only child second of all um if i

03:29:41.920 don't want to give birth then i'm not going to give birth and that's none of your fucking issue

03:29:46.080 so who cares if there's a child rape crisis honestly the world would be better off without

03:29:51.280 humans anyway yeah wait hold on let's just let's just do

03:29:55.440 wait so the world would be better off without humans anyway are you so are you an anti-natalist

03:30:04.000 what do you mean like you're not you don't like children or you're against absolutely not but you

03:30:09.040 said the world would be better off without in a perfect world there would be no humans i think

03:30:13.840 yeah well i mean it begs the question then what's stopping you from just unaliving myself yeah the fact

03:30:21.040 that there's an entire world of people around me so it wouldn't really do much if i just killed

03:30:24.560 myself well okay sorry i'm alive yeah it's fine um but you said that the world would be better off

03:30:33.680 that sounds like an ought claim like global warming and like all the issues we have because we live on

03:30:39.200 an overpopulated planet wouldn't exist war wouldn't be happening nukes wouldn't be happening

03:30:43.520 but then we wouldn't be alive well and correct wouldn't be alive and correct and i'm saying we're

03:30:49.520 already here so hold on wait hold on wait dinosaurs are gonna come back hold on how the

03:30:55.840 fuck is that i didn't say that i i'm just saying if evolution skipped human beings and it was just

03:31:01.680 monkeys and the rest of the world damn that's a hot take there that's a hot take um but i i it

03:31:07.200 does beg the question if like humans are the most mass destruction of the planet

03:31:13.680 without humans i think yeah but okay a lot more peaceful let's we're already here i'm not saying we

03:31:18.240 should kill all humans i'm just saying we're are like we're already here so it's already happened

03:31:22.720 however technically the world would be better off without so if i were to i mean i guess i could go

03:31:29.200 ahead and grant that humans are destructive towards the planet although like yeah what precisely does

03:31:35.760 that mean i'm sure you enjoy like living in an air-conditioned house and having heating and running

03:31:42.080 water of course so however if i was born and raised with none of that i would survive i think we

03:31:49.200 sometimes take for granted the comforts of modernity oh i love the comforts we have however

03:31:56.880 the comforts come with a cost yes the comforts exist and i'm only here for a short amount of time and so

03:32:03.440 is everyone else wait you know hold on i understand that those comforts are a big thing i think global

03:32:09.200 warming uh some people even dispute if this is the the severity of it and all sorts of things i think

03:32:15.920 this is assuming it is the case is a necessary evil like if you look at electricity uh the the i guess

03:32:24.640 the usage of fossil fuels have brought more people out of poverty than sort of like anything else it

03:32:30.800 well maybe not uh energy is what has brought more people out of uh poverty and starvation if you

03:32:38.800 look at the global uh what's the exact term like the global poverty rate has greatly been diminished

03:32:46.640 through human ingenuity and so if you look at the like these sort of civilizations or populations where

03:32:53.360 there was mass amounts of like hunger and poverty we've been able through uh energy usage and you know

03:33:01.600 introducing industrialization to them we've been able to bring them slowly out of poverty out of

03:33:07.280 hunger out of starvation so i think are there negative consequences of industrialization and this

03:33:15.440 sort of thing and energy usage sure but i think the benefits outweigh the uh the costs but poverty is a

03:33:23.840 construct created by humans monkeys don't look at other monkeys and say they're poor we're gonna not

03:33:30.640 give them food like in most animals it's they just have a way of living and it just continues on and

03:33:37.600 on and it's just the way it is we've created a whole system that's much more complicated which

03:33:42.480 again i'm not saying i'm not saying all humans deserve to be abolished i'm not saying we shouldn't

03:33:47.360 isn't that what you were saying no i'm saying that if the world was going to be perfect maybe we

03:33:52.320 wouldn't have evolved to this point to a point where we're so um intellectual that we can create

03:34:02.560 such giant systems that harm the rest of the planet that's all i'm saying we're already here so might as

03:34:10.320 well enjoy it and do what we can to try and save the planet but if if we had all stayed primates and

03:34:17.600 none of this complex stuff would happen okay we wouldn't be complaining that we didn't have ac and

03:34:22.480 that we weren't rich we would just be living life as simple creatures yes yeah sure i suppose it's the

03:34:28.720 case that uh if we didn't evolve then we wouldn't like it's sort of ignorance is bliss yeah which is

03:34:35.840 how the other animals live right but most of these animals aren't self-aware but that's what i'm saying

03:34:42.080 okay do you have natural our self-awareness and our intellectual abilities has hurt the planet

03:34:50.320 do you agree do you do you think the things we've created have hurt this planet whether we want to

03:34:55.200 admit it or not so you think we should go back to no we're already here we can't go back here we have

03:35:01.920 a chat coming through here thank you pasty george pasty george donated two hundred dollars and once again

03:35:10.160 chair one's response proves me s tar veela and rachel wilson correct we are so cooked and near

03:35:17.120 collapse because of feminism good job thank you who are either of those women well he just donated

03:35:24.160 two hundred dollars just to type that so oh he did you can have that he did just do that i'm proud of

03:35:31.520 you did just do that i'm proud of you for spending two hundred dollars to give me that opinion

03:35:35.600 do you want to say something nice about pasty george you want to give i just said i'm proud

03:35:40.320 of him oh you're proud of him okay love it love it pelagic six thank you for the hundred dollar soup

03:35:45.360 chat good to see you in the chat man your uh chair one argues using logical fallacy only she's a total

03:35:51.200 clown do you want to respond to that also if you want to wear this hat i do you have to spin done spin

03:35:57.760 the helicopter you know i knew two boys in middle school who wore these every day wait how do i you

03:36:02.720 you guys spin it slap it there you go love it it's good it's a total clown thank you i'll take i'll

03:36:10.320 take it back though you can give it he doesn't want me wearing it too long doesn't want lice

03:36:16.400 you've got lice with them here disinfect that felicity all right um let's see here we have lizzie

03:36:23.520 plowing a field hooking up ropes to a dragon attached to an ox they cannot do this maybe you can't my

03:36:30.720 grandma did that you know what i also um maryn has a finsta and she do not she you post she she

03:36:40.000 wrangles cattle i do and she also i've seen her do amazing feats of strength so we do have an outlier

03:36:48.000 here at the table maryn um she she has done various she grew up on a farm and she actually

03:36:54.320 wrestle my grandparents were farmers and my grandma would help wow all that stuff thank you for

03:37:00.480 sharing i appreciate that okay uh and we had cows we i would rangle the cows too i love that um pelagic

03:37:10.560 her gaslighting is moronic and insufferable do you want to respond to pelagic there

03:37:15.600 is he talking about me i think it's talking about you yeah um okay explain gaslighting i mean

03:37:23.760 doesn't know what that means we we just got to give animals time to catch

03:37:27.920 i don't know about all that we are all animals what about dolphins

03:37:34.320 bro spend a hundred dollars just to tell me that can any of the women at this table name a single

03:37:38.720 career that would be more important than staying home at raising homeschooling their own children

03:37:45.920 i'll open up to the whole panel here well my question for you is is it sexist to say that

03:37:50.960 men can't stay at home and raise the children men are just as capable of raising children as women

03:37:56.320 women have to breastfeed for a certain amount of time but after that why can't men teach and

03:38:00.400 homeschool their children are you saying that men aren't capable of teaching their children

03:38:05.120 i mean my response to this would actually go back to women's own

03:38:09.120 sexist traditional gender role expectations of men so even if men wanted to do that i would

03:38:15.120 say the vast majority of women are not going to be okay dating a guy who's like i don't want to

03:38:21.360 work you be the breadwinner i'm gonna stay home and take care of the kids most women i think even

03:38:28.160 feminist liberal women don't want that kind of relationship dynamic whereas i think there's far

03:38:34.240 more men who would be assuming they make the earn the the level of income to be able to support

03:38:39.440 it and there are more men who would be okay with the reverse so of course however i believe that

03:38:44.960 only that only reason for that happening is because of the societal standards that have been placed for

03:38:50.080 years and years and decades and decades by men how would it but no it's enforced by women

03:38:56.640 how easy but when i'm a woman i don't want to be in a relationship or have children with a man who's not

03:39:04.240 willing to be a provider what would that have to do with men that would be strictly women having a

03:39:09.520 standard and men being like well if i can't get a wife and i can't have children if i'm not a provider

03:39:18.160 as i've said before which you seem to not believe it's because women were not allowed to have as high

03:39:24.800 paying of jobs maybe it was because of physical strength but regardless they were not given

03:39:30.240 opportunities to have as high paying jobs as men were so men were expected to make the money because

03:39:36.080 they were allowed to have higher paying jobs and before there were things as nannies and whatever

03:39:43.120 like rich women did have nannies and whatever but like before that was a thing it was the woman's job

03:39:48.560 to take care of the children in the home because that was all they were allowed to do the thing is

03:39:53.280 though is that if we're talking about modernity and we're talking about current gender roles my position

03:39:58.880 would still be even though women have more equality than they've ever had they've had more freedom

03:40:04.560 than they've ever had they're making more money than they've ever had in all of human history so

03:40:08.720 combine all these things more freedom more rights more opportunity more uh more success than at any point

03:40:16.800 in human history and women in the u.s enjoy this especially it's interesting women still don't want to date

03:40:23.840 men that's that say or want to be stay-at-home fathers and i believe i mean and it's men's fault

03:40:30.640 yeah no no maybe i'm wrong but i believe it's because of the societal pressures that have been

03:40:35.440 handed down for centuries to who to men or to women to women their program what which societal pressure

03:40:40.880 that we are supposed to stay home and take care of the child and take care of the home and women are

03:40:46.320 supposed to cook and women are supposed to clean and you can't cook and clean and take care of the

03:40:50.960 the children if you have a job so it's just more like normalized for women to stay home but i but

03:40:58.480 like my dad stayed home with me for years while my mom worked your mom was the breadwinner yeah

03:41:04.800 she still is are your parents still together yep okay i'm not saying my mom still is the breadwinner

03:41:09.920 okay she has the higher paying job and my dad technically has no job right now he stays at home he

03:41:15.840 cleans and he cooks and it's and my whole family is totally fine sure and i'm not disputing that that

03:41:23.760 happens i'm not saying it's an impossibility i'm just saying that generally speaking even when women

03:41:30.240 make a ton of money they still are probably not going to be okay dating a guy who wants to be the

03:41:36.720 stay-at-home dad but you say probably like you've spoken to every woman in the u.s you can't just say

03:41:42.160 probably you say maybe if this is the appeal you're making i would just reverse the appeal to

03:41:47.680 you have you spoken to every single woman in the u.s no that's why i'm not saying every single man in

03:41:52.240 the u.s that's why i'm not saying definitely or probably i'm saying they have the ability to and

03:41:57.600 if societal standards have you as what they were then maybe not probably let me maybe it would be

03:42:03.920 different can i ask you a question have you seen the sky from every single geographical location

03:42:09.920 in the world no but you would be confident to say the following for example you might say probably

03:42:16.240 the sky is blue everywhere in the world sure okay but probably not at every time so we don't

03:42:24.720 what do you mean the sky could be gray at a different place because it's cloud if okay here i'll add a

03:42:29.520 qualifier if it's daytime and if there's no clouds and the sun's showing is this exact location i wouldn't

03:42:37.760 say probably in any geographic location where those are the the explicit uh circumstances i would

03:42:44.480 never say probably about that for one half the world it's nighttime the other half of the world

03:42:50.000 it's no but i said it clouds rain i said if there's no clouds if there's no clouds in my exact location i

03:42:57.680 still wouldn't use the word probably wait so just to be clear if it was daytime and there were no clouds

03:43:03.600 clear skies and i'm in alay california you would say under what circumstance would the sky not be

03:43:10.640 blue um in the other side of the world where it's nighttime but no you were saying in your location

03:43:17.280 yeah i would never say a probably about the entire world i added okay i added the qualifier whichever

03:43:24.160 geographic location it is in that specific location it is daytime and there are no clouds okay you would say

03:43:31.600 that it's a blue sky where i was yeah not just where you were but somewhere else like for example

03:43:38.160 i make that assumption would you agree that anywhere in california right now it's nighttime

03:43:44.000 yeah everywhere currently in california like the sun is not visible

03:43:49.680 i don't know i don't know where the sun i don't know what time the sun sets in the northern regions of

03:43:55.120 california or whatever but yeah i'd say it's okay probably nighttime in california right now

03:44:02.240 all right there you have it that's way different than the question what you said probably you said

03:44:07.040 probably all women in the u.s would feel i didn't say i said yeah probably most women would not be okay

03:44:13.520 with that sort of am i wrong you say probably you don't know that well that's why i'm saying probably i

03:44:19.440 suppose maybe probably probably it's the case okay probably just insinuates that you're probably

03:44:28.320 correct when you just may be correct okay well do you think i'm wrong i don't know i haven't asked

03:44:35.440 every woman in the entire you don't need to ask every woman you can just use your intuition or just

03:44:40.160 like i think so i think if you asked a handful of women if they would be fine doing that if the

03:44:44.560 husband said i'm gonna take full responsibility of the kids and the cooking and the cleaning if

03:44:50.000 you work a job i'm not sure i feel a lot of women would be okay with that i'd like to ask uh probably

03:44:56.800 the highest earning woman here at the table um you're a corporate attorney tax attorney uh do you

03:45:02.720 mind saying i don't know if you're okay with it how much do you make per year um you make six figures

03:45:07.520 i make um yeah six figure but not a small six figure what can you say what it is uh over 200

03:45:14.880 okay would you be willing to date a guy who is a barista and maybe this guy is great but he wants

03:45:22.640 to stay home and take care of the kids and stop working once you guys have children to be very

03:45:27.760 honest um i think i would prefer a guy who's also financially stable um i mean i don't mind sharing the

03:45:34.400 child caring responsibility but i would rather him not be a stay-at-home dad but of course it would also

03:45:40.160 depend on the man um because i have seen women who have to support um their husbands or partners

03:45:46.320 going through like college getting their uh advanced degrees um so i would say it's really case by case

03:45:54.240 thank you okay and really quick just to for the soup chat here if any uh just any of the other women

03:45:59.520 here can any uh women name a single career that would be more important than staying home at uh

03:46:04.800 raising your own children i don't think uneducated people should homeschool their kids so i answer

03:46:11.840 the actual question please if you can but the question is confusing because do you mean like

03:46:17.520 there's zero for men or women there's zero occupation that's more important than raising a child because

03:46:24.400 you can make the same argument for like no man's job is more important than helping raise their child

03:46:29.440 however we need different occupations to survive in the world the way that we've built it

03:46:37.040 anybody want to respond to it besides her i mean i just want to chime in i think it also depends on how

03:46:41.760 you define important i mean of course it's always nice to have someone like taking care of the child

03:46:46.560 at home but also you need a steady source of income to to feed the children to feed the family who's

03:46:51.600 going to put the food on the table otherwise we have claim here with a message

03:46:55.600 claim donated two hundred dollars thank you man appreciate it animals kill the weak of their

03:47:01.520 society humans have evolved to keep even the mentally weak alive see chair one also see chair

03:47:09.200 one chest for why guessing boyfriend is deaf and if not poor sum of a bitch

03:47:17.360 you spelt poor wrong but other than that um you gotta spell check these guys my boyfriend loves me

03:47:24.320 very much so he's not deaf or blind or anything thank you for assuming um and

03:47:31.600 scoot into the table a bit um and i don't really know what else to say to that we have another

03:47:37.520 super chat here thank you pasty george donated two hundred dollars thank you thank you as long as my

03:47:44.240 super chats and tts's contribute to informing good men about the bullshit of feminism to chair one and

03:47:50.800 two in turn what duties and responsibilities do women have towards men you spell bullshit wrong

03:47:58.320 but the duties and responsibilities that women have towards men um none and men don't have duties or

03:48:06.880 responsibilities towards women either so i don't know what you want me to say towards that what about

03:48:12.000 you um i'm on the same page as you i want to say something about that sure quick if you can yes

03:48:16.720 quickly in a relationship i think that it's based on love society might not support that today women

03:48:25.120 are today we're we're asking would you marry a man that makes less money than you and what about

03:48:30.240 would you marry a man that treats you well would you marry a man that you love would you marry a man that

03:48:34.720 loves you when there's love and i can say it because i did love and my late husband loved me it was

03:48:41.360 real love and i was i am a piano teacher i was teaching in my house and i it was a pleasure to

03:48:49.440 cook for him it wasn't being a servant it's the fruit the product of loving each other he's going to go

03:48:57.360 out he's going to work and he's going to bring me what i need not because he's my servant and i love him

03:49:02.320 so much that knowing that he's doing what he's doing i'm gonna iron his his clothes and we all when we

03:49:08.160 go out on the date he looks awesome because i love him and i'm going to cook for him so everything

03:49:14.560 it's a consequence of love and if we go back back in time what's the origin of love

03:49:21.600 god is love god is love god is love no god created god invented god is love and if we focus on

03:49:33.120 love and i'm talking about religion i'm not a religious person i hate religion but god a

03:49:39.440 relationship with a superior intelligence okay when there's real love when we follow love well

03:49:44.880 god god communicates with us through the bible through the bible and when the bible talks about

03:49:52.640 family and and there's us things that has to do with history when things that i don't agree with

03:49:58.800 the bible okay i'm talking about love i'm talking about family god founded family that was the first

03:50:03.680 society that was founded on love on god and if we follow the same way as we follow a car manual we put gas

03:50:13.440 in a car we don't put we don't put uh uh gather aid okay same thing for a family if we do this if we

03:50:21.200 follow this and what does the bible say so we have to go back to who founded the family who founded and what

03:50:26.560 is it founded on and what are the rules and we really go back in in time it really says that the

03:50:32.160 men is the protector that the woman and everything is a product of love that's that's pretty much what

03:50:37.600 i wanted to say it's not being a servant what are women getting protected from who are who are women

03:50:41.760 getting protected from well i can tell you in my case for example my my husband protected me about

03:50:47.440 everything about being uh somebody talking back to me protected about uh being making sure that the house

03:50:54.800 is closed at night protecting it sometimes when i was sick and i was sick for a long time he was the

03:51:00.160 one working hard when i got on myself on my feet i was working helping him so what was i getting

03:51:05.120 protected everything he was watching out for me a product of love and love can do everything

03:51:13.680 love is not selfish god protects god i mean it's very clear what it is love is a way to manipulate

03:51:20.320 people oh yes love oh yeah love is not a factor a lot of people get married because of contracts

03:51:25.840 that's no love that's no love that but that's the society we live in exactly but that's not real love

03:51:31.120 i'll agree with you love is totally the reason and even though i do not believe in god and i don't support

03:51:37.520 organized religion that much i love that people use god as a way to appreciate love just like you said i

03:51:46.320 love cooking for my boyfriend i'll make him a sandwich i'll make him a meal i love waiting on

03:51:51.200 him hand and foot it brings me joy however he does not expect that which is such a blessing because

03:51:57.760 he'll ask me like please let me do it i'll be like no i want to do it i want to make you food i want to

03:52:02.800 clean up after you like i enjoy doing that however if he said do it now like make me this food that's

03:52:10.320 wrong that's wrong and so much throughout history that has happened and i'm so grateful that i'm at

03:52:16.640 a place and i have a person that allows me to be happy giving for him and waiting on him however there's

03:52:24.640 a lot of people in the world and even in the us still that don't feel happy waiting on others and are

03:52:30.720 still forced to and i think that's like even though we're so lucky to like get men that we want to

03:52:36.960 provide for and they let us provide for them and they provide for us in different ways there's

03:52:42.160 still the people who don't get that choice and who are more so expected just to do it even if they

03:52:49.680 don't want to even if the man isn't nice to them then leave him i agree i agree however sometimes it's

03:52:56.880 sometimes for some people it's difficult to do that and that's my point when it's based on love

03:53:02.720 it's different it's different you know and if there's no love if you choose a person for money

03:53:07.040 if you choose a person for you know the position in society if you choose it then you're gonna

03:53:10.960 you're gonna run some consequences and if you just there's you know there's a previous relationship

03:53:15.040 before the marriage being a girlfriend being a fiance being you know how to say engaged totally totally

03:53:20.000 and then you get to see there that's what it is for you get to see that he respect me can i do this

03:53:24.480 and then you might choose yes or not you know but it's when there's true real love nothing none of

03:53:29.440 this happens however when you teach the woman that it is their job and duty to wait on the man

03:53:36.000 that's when it's no longer about love it's more like they expect that and they can become mean

03:53:42.720 about expecting that nobody ever taught me nothing i did it and that's wonderful for you

03:53:50.080 but for some people it is taught well but that's that's what i'm trying to say that if we found the

03:53:56.240 family on on a very strong route which is love it's not going to happen so you're the one that

03:54:04.240 choosing you have an engagement previous to see how is this relationship and if you choose wrong then

03:54:09.520 you're gonna if you choose somebody that that makes you a slave then you're going to be miserable but

03:54:15.200 then choose choose somebody that loves it choose somebody that isn't a teacher as a servant and if somebody

03:54:19.760 does leave him and if you don't like the the amount of money that you're making go study and do it

03:54:25.680 get another job it's everything i think is our own decision you know but if there's men that makes

03:54:32.320 you do things absolutely that's wrong shouldn't happen absolutely do you expect your boyfriend to

03:54:38.960 protect you no no so if a man uh came up to you and slapped you on the ass you wouldn't expect him to

03:54:46.960 punch him in the face no really a little vibrational i mean if he did i'd be like oh that's crazy but

03:54:55.360 like i can slap a man in the face by myself but would you think that he's indifferent no you don't think

03:55:04.880 he doesn't want to get arrested for assault but he's i mean that would be self-defense yeah he would

03:55:10.880 be protecting if a man slaps me in the ass and someone else slaps that man that's not self-defense

03:55:17.600 you can come to defense of a third party and you would still fall under self-defense laws okay so like

03:55:24.880 well if he did that i'd be grateful i would never expect him to do so right but just a clarification on

03:55:30.640 the self-defense laws if you're with your your child and an adult starts attacking your child

03:55:36.000 that makes sense you can beat the shit out of the person attacking your child what if all three

03:55:40.480 parties are adults yeah you can still do that too so so like if if your self-defense would apply

03:55:47.680 you can come to the defense of somebody else so this would apply this can apply in all kinds of

03:55:52.800 situations okay but i would say if a man slapped me on the ass with no permission and i turned around

03:55:59.680 i would not wait for my boyfriend to hit him i'd hit him myself if i felt like it

03:56:04.640 do you expect your boyfriend to follow the sidewalk rule what is that um having you walk on the inside

03:56:12.240 instead of uh him him walking on the outside where you could he could get hit by a car yes shivery no i've

03:56:19.520 never expected that however if he does do that i think it's cute but i literally could not hear less

03:56:25.840 i wait in front of the door for the man to open the door for me i open the door for my boyfriend

03:56:29.360 all the time he gets offended and i'm like just let me open the door if you gotta let men be men

03:56:33.440 and let them be shivers for us we have to allow them to be gentlemen if he is not dead yeah we have

03:56:38.640 to allow them we don't give enough enough time enough space for me i know i just don't expect it

03:56:42.640 so like when it happens maybe i'm a little bit excited i'm like oh that was like you when i was

03:56:46.640 younger but she asked me do i expect him to follow the sidewalk rule do i expect him to hit a man who

03:56:50.880 tries to attack me or whatever no i don't expect it at all and i wouldn't be mad at him

03:56:57.840 pop whatever you'd like donated one thousand dollars yeah thank you

03:57:03.360 pop whatever you'd like brian champagne or kool-aid for the youngins so i uh no more popsicles

03:57:11.200 find a man oh i'm off the market sorry long really

03:57:15.280 bro said i'm off why are you saying really to jungle i'm off the market as if you're gonna hunt

03:57:20.800 down his username and like ask him out after the show i could get them connected but he's off the

03:57:24.960 market he's you know whatever but anyways i thought you were single that doesn't mean i'm on the market

03:57:30.160 she's off the market guys sorry all right uh so i texted him he was like kool-aid so we're gonna

03:57:36.640 instead of champagne we're gonna do um capri sun who wants a capri sun i'm okay you don't want a

03:57:43.280 capri sun capri sun capri sun what flavor it's a it's like juice i know what it is you want a bit

03:57:50.640 you'll have it you'll have some i'll take water okay i'll have some sparkling water actually yeah

03:57:57.600 do you want capri sun back there yeah uh refusado please all right just get four 1942 actually you

03:58:03.040 want one i would like some champagne like an adult do you want i do not want juice i am not okay you

03:58:09.840 want capri sun okay sure yes yes do you want capri sun it's juice okay do you want one sure okay do

03:58:18.000 five do five all right jungle thank you man appreciate it i gotta let the rest of the

03:58:21.680 chats come through can i quickly just ask do the mannequins have names yes what are their names uh

03:58:26.960 kiki and ashley is kiki the pink haired one blue hair oh okay kiki and ashley i was offered by a company

03:58:34.240 to get my home thank you from one of those girls like oh really quick that reminds me before the

03:58:39.440 show before the show started uh you you were showing uh maren a pictures of a guy you dated

03:58:47.920 no pictures of herself but there was a guy in one of the pictures right yeah well i seem to recall there

03:58:54.240 was a you you were showing her pictures before the show and maren you responded by saying

03:59:00.960 oh he's very ugly you deserve better that was probably bad i just i said that she was hotter

03:59:09.280 than him per se and she made it clear that they were not together anymore and that he wasn't a great

03:59:14.080 person i thought you said he was so i'm being supportive during the time we were dating uh after

03:59:19.520 i found out he wasn't a nice guy no wait when you say you were being supportive what do you mean

03:59:24.880 if a girlfriend shows you a picture of a guy that did her dirty and says look at this one you're not

03:59:28.800 going to be like oh my god he's so hot you're going to be like yeah you don't have to say that

03:59:33.120 but was it the case i just said he's hotter but you weren't even dating him right no the guy showed

03:59:38.800 her yes i was dating him oh okay and i'll take one and i simply said that she was more attractive than

03:59:45.120 he was no you said ew very ugly you deserve better and what about it she let me ask you a question let me

03:59:53.200 ask you a question let's say there was a guy let's say there was a guy and this guy he was dating a

04:00:00.400 woman and you overheard a conversation between two men and the guy i guess had a falling out with his

04:00:08.720 girlfriend right and the male friends were saying to the guy who broke up with his girlfriend or

04:00:13.680 whatever yeah bro you deserve better that chick was a fatty dude she was fat and ugly ew bro

04:00:20.720 ew she had a nose ring how you would you'd be cool with that yeah really yeah even the

04:00:30.880 nose ring friends should yeah you're talking about me i think friends should support friends uh let's do

04:00:36.320 if if if me cheers okay capri sun cheers cheers capri sun bruh thank you thank you jungle we got the

04:00:44.800 jungle juice here i should pay you for that but let's see i thought you said no brands

04:00:50.800 and we get something whatever whatever it's capri sun they get some earned no endorsement anyways

04:00:57.520 whatever moving on i gotta move it on uh josh brooks chair one women get paid less in sports because

04:01:02.720 people don't buy tickets as much as male sports i know that when was the last time you saw a woman do

04:01:06.960 a double under leg slam dunk in the wna um i don't watch the nba or the wnba so i wouldn't know

04:01:13.840 i don't think it's fair no i do think it's fair that because more people watch men's sports they

04:01:19.440 get paid more because they have a bigger audience and their stadiums are filled more that makes sense

04:01:23.760 i never said that didn't make sense so i don't know why that person's saying that i said something

04:01:27.520 different because we never even talked about it's possible he he might have assumed just because of

04:01:31.200 some of your other positions that you would have argued that the the wages between like nba and

04:01:35.920 wnba players should be equalized that makes sense but okay i'm nothing nothing to argue with you there

04:01:41.680 men's sports have been along for around for way longer and so they have way bigger of a fan base

04:01:47.760 they have more people involved they have bigger sports is a way to control people's minds oh okay

04:01:53.440 well what you know about that it's a way to make people not think for themselves and watch watch other

04:02:00.800 people play sports it's a way to control people it's all fake it's all owned by disney what you know

04:02:08.640 what though i mean at the nfl and all of that it's not it's not a good thing to have in society

04:02:15.840 i think it's healthy competition and humans they hurt each other their brains their their brains get

04:02:21.040 damaged well they sign themselves up for that now children not sure than when they have well they

04:02:25.680 have to she's got a bit of a point she has a bit of a point parents totally make their kids play

04:02:30.400 sports sometimes but not at a certain age they can get out of it if they want at the nfl level

04:02:35.520 i know a lot of nfl guys anyways have you never mind um yes i've been yes big sass energy chair one

04:02:43.280 is proof against all of her own arguments she is both more hostile and dumber dumber dumber than man

04:02:50.160 dumber dumber sorry i'm drunk off of the capri sun uh despite her claim of the opposite she is

04:02:56.720 everything she hates which is herself do you want to respond to that um i have absolutely no clue what

04:03:02.640 that comment was trying to say thank you for spending money oh jungle this guy oh my god

04:03:08.240 jungle is on fire jungle really wants to talk jungle's on fire oh my goodness i'll pop the

04:03:13.760 champagne bottle give me a uh mary can you grab me uh the champagne is it really champagne or is it

04:03:21.040 sparkling wine seek and ye shall find champagne is from france with a hat spin the hat take a

04:03:26.240 by and realize that your man awaits you out there go get him cheers brian what are you in defense of my

04:03:34.400 eggs i'm really oh chair seven oh it's for you yeah yeah put the hat on my hat spin it wait why is like

04:03:44.800 the part spin it that's so stupid and then i think something about take a bow it's california

04:03:59.040 champagne so it's not champagne champagne is from a region in france oh thank you for thank you for

04:04:03.600 the correction there but champagne is made in a region in france so is tequila like tequila is made

04:04:09.600 in a region of mexico it can't be named something else it has that sparkling wine that's not it's

04:04:14.640 california it literally says california champagne because champagne is from a city yeah but when

04:04:20.160 people it's a you do realize like in france i know a lot about champagne okay that's especially

04:04:26.480 one she knows a lot about i just don't understand the empty crystal bottle versus what he's actually

04:04:30.720 opening yeah like why can't we have that one the one that's empty where's the one for the thousand

04:04:36.400 dollars they donate yeah right we get four dollars champagne yeah they called the crystal oh it's

04:04:44.160 ah oh i'm just saying i know a lot of french people my french friends would never say that's

04:04:51.600 champagne uh do you guys want refills on your champagne i think you're you yeah sparkling wine

04:04:57.120 it's champagne it's champagne okay california pass them for me uh felicity here we got pasty george

04:05:03.440 here let me call my french guy pasty george donated two hundred dollars chair one what kind of pathetic

04:05:10.800 man do you have he would not punch out a random guy who slapped your unicorn you do realize that a

04:05:17.840 man will hit you back right you are coping and capping 100 percent instead to grab one first of all my

04:05:24.640 boyfriend when a thousand percent hit someone who tried to touch me but i'm i didn't say that he

04:05:29.520 wouldn't i said that i wouldn't expect it with you i know for a fact that my boyfriend would fight back

04:05:36.320 for me however like i said i wouldn't expect it i wouldn't be mad at him if he didn't because i'm my

04:05:44.160 own person and i can offend um defend myself okay cool uh let's do a cheers cheers to jungle a giga

04:05:51.280 chad cheers thank you man you're a fucking legend you're a gentleman he's a great decent man he's a

04:05:56.640 pioneer cheers that's true yeah talking polish merci beaucoup jungle thank you thank you what a

04:06:05.680 fucking legend what a legend here thank you for that jungle okay more chats

04:06:13.280 everything was invented and built by men i would love to see women overthrow men to get the privilege

04:06:18.080 to higher education or to work more okay i'd love to see it too we all need it's a symbiotic

04:06:26.000 relationship we the yin to our yang we need each other in order to survive and to have a better we

04:06:32.320 you guys want to fight each other so bad this is this against this this against this we need each

04:06:37.280 other we're the yin to each other's yang without men we won't have kids without it's like who it's like

04:06:43.440 good i can't say dick whatever it's like a dick sharing contest like who has the bigger one oh my

04:06:48.720 god what does it matter we all are here on the society we're all here to try to be a better

04:06:54.960 people he's gonna tell you why i'll tell you why it matters why dick size matters so there are

04:07:01.200 narratives there are narratives so first off in order for the propagation of the species you need both men

04:07:07.200 and women right of course i agree with you it's impossible without men impossible without women in

04:07:11.200 order to propagate the species you need both however however there seems to be narratives and these

04:07:17.040 narratives are perpetuated by uh feminists by self-described misandrist like marin here that

04:07:24.960 seek to diminish the degree to which the all the modern comforts that we take for granted uh how these are

04:07:34.080 all a result of male labor and ingenuity and genius and you're diminishing the contribution of men and

04:07:44.160 you basically paint men as this monolithic monster and you you paint men as these terrible people

04:07:51.440 throughout all of human history and even today and then women are perpetually oppressed and women are

04:07:58.240 perpetually victimized and it's a terrible narrative to spin but really realistically

04:08:03.920 when it does come down to survival the material reality of existence and survivability uh greatly greatly

04:08:14.160 disproportionately depends on men so men are so so inextricably involved in critical infrastructure

04:08:24.560 that if you were to remove these men or if all men were to disappear uh this would be so catastrophic

04:08:32.240 in a myriad of ways that i couldn't even fully articulate and the cascading effects of the removal

04:08:38.880 of men from critical critical infrastructure these men who are nameless who you don't even know exist

04:08:44.880 who keep you safe at night who keep the electricity on who keep the water running who keep the telecommunication

04:08:51.120 systems going these things these systems many of you probably don't even have a base level

04:08:56.560 understanding of if these men were to disappear there would be catastrophic cascading failures the the

04:09:04.480 essentially bringing us back within a period of a month to literally put like pre-civilization

04:09:11.360 living standards for women no no no here's the difference here's the difference and you're not

04:09:18.000 going to be able to argue to the up to the counter so i agree so if all men disappear it's the end of uh

04:09:26.800 it's the end of the species if all women disappear it's the end of the species for both however if we're

04:09:33.040 looking at what happens in that scenario where all men disappear all women disappear if all men disappear

04:09:39.440 that's going it's going to be very sad obviously nobody wants to lose their wives their sisters uh

04:09:44.800 mothers etc etc it's going to be the end of the species that's going to massively suck but if you

04:09:49.520 look at in terms of survivability men will be able for the you know the years they have left men will

04:09:55.760 be able to maintain the current systems and infrastructure because they need the system

04:10:01.120 sure yes i agree thank you for proving my point that enable us to enjoy the comforts of modernity

04:10:06.560 if all men disappeared trust me you guys would be living in the stone age however you're assuming that

04:10:13.680 if history went differently and women were in charge we'd never get to this point you have no

04:10:19.280 i'm not making that claim i'm not making the claim but but so you're because no because men

04:10:26.000 were able to create the system and shut women out and they created the system and now they rule the

04:10:31.920 system yes if all men disappeared we'd have trouble however if in history things went different and

04:10:39.520 people were always considered equal men and women were always considered equal and women had the

04:10:44.480 opportunity to make their own system i think we would do just fine and you have no proof here pull

04:10:50.480 up discord i don't want to see any videos of men doing work yes you do because you assume that women

04:10:56.080 couldn't do that work just because you don't have a video of them pull these videos trust me pull

04:11:00.880 the shit up pull the shit up mary pull it up no no don't you can't show that here scroll down

04:11:06.560 uh men at work please men at work all right scroll down scroll down there's firefighters

04:11:15.600 predominantly men let's do line workers uh scroll down uh full screen that first one please click on

04:11:22.480 it full screen it okay this is a dude uh women don't want to do this shit i'm telling you women

04:11:32.800 don't want to do this like when look when the electricity goes out and it's below freezing

04:11:39.440 it's men who are going to be there at 3 a.m in the below freezing cold temperature when it's

04:11:44.960 fucking hailing doing shit like doing gangster shit like this you know what if this was my

04:11:51.680 only opportunity of job work i could do it and i would do a great job and you just have no idea

04:11:56.480 women don't want to do it is the thing because nothing's stopping women from doing this literally

04:12:01.440 nothing but their own choice okay isn't that the argument though for why in america we let illegals

04:12:07.520 do our like gardening and stuff because nobody else americans don't want to do that kind of labor

04:12:12.720 anymore no that's a good point x out of that let me see what else there's there's one other video i

04:12:17.440 wanted she made a good point and you just said what does that have to do with anything and moved

04:12:23.520 on to show another video of a man doing something that a woman could easily do full screen that

04:12:28.320 shit maren you're gonna be doing this you're doing this shit how much money i'm making bro this guy

04:12:34.720 gets paid thirty dollars an hour do you know that for a fact i'm just bro i'm spitballing i don't know

04:12:40.240 how much he actually makes he's he's not making 200k here in a small town i had no other choices i had

04:12:47.120 no exterminators and plumbers make great money why not let's ask let's ask ocean workers click

04:12:52.800 that shit click the you know what click no no bro maren you want to do this shit you want to be out

04:12:58.000 on there well i'm a little scared of the ocean oh okay she's scared of the ocean but i know women

04:13:02.240 who have done that you want to kick it you want to kick it women could easily you're gonna kick it on

04:13:07.600 the fucking oil derrick but the problem is that women could do that but why would just because men

04:13:15.040 dominate the fields doesn't mean that women can't do it they can do it it's the fact that they

04:13:20.320 don't want to do it wait wait hold on nobody wants to do that wait maren uh here play it we're

04:13:28.000 gonna watch this shit just play that shit play that shit so here's the thing right you could take

04:13:34.240 like this job right here requires so much uh strength and stamina i'm telling you like you could

04:13:40.960 take a guy and put him in this and he'll get there at one point i genuinely think it's the case that

04:13:47.040 you put most women in what they're about to do i they just don't have the physical strength to do it

04:13:53.200 they don't have the physical strength to do it what is that they're it's it's oil workers

04:13:59.360 roughnecks i'm not doing that my god so hold on they do these things are like and their fingers get

04:14:05.200 fucking smashed and like like this is really these guys are ideal husband material how i'm not sure

04:14:14.080 how that relates at all because you keep showing us blue collar men like these are ideal husbands show

04:14:19.200 us the ceos they're harder workers than the soy boys that we see everywhere you're just this is not

04:14:24.960 like a pointless comment this conversation hasn't it's like it's idiotic i just i think that's not

04:14:31.280 the kind that i'm looking at i just i just don't see a point in showing blue collar men and saying

04:14:37.360 women don't do this at all and just showing us videos of men when there are women who work those

04:14:41.840 jobs and just because there's more men than women doesn't mean jack shit women could still do it

04:14:49.440 just because they don't as much just because men are more likely to do so because men are more

04:14:54.880 required to be physically strong because of societal standards does not mean that women could never do

04:15:00.000 that job that's all i'm saying i love that i'm not saying that women do that all the time men do

04:15:07.120 that more often for sure women could still do it oh my gosh jungle jungle can you send me a message

04:15:16.960 on instagram what do you want me to pop champagne what do you want me to do your ex he's probably an

04:15:22.320 num num i'm saying get out there and make yourself available for that new man chair one yawn chair

04:15:29.920 two blah blah ha ha uh jungle i'm i'm messaging with you on instagram right now let me do you want me

04:15:36.720 to do a different pop what do you want i wish i had my glasses what do you want me to pop uh thank

04:15:40.800 you jungle appreciate it brother all right here let me read the some of the chats here we have

04:15:45.840 techno trooper felicity i want you to i want you to read these go ahead and read it

04:15:54.800 bye guys women now earn the majority of masters and doctoral degrees in the u.s continuing the trend

04:16:02.640 that has that began in the early 2000s so are you saying hey damn bro am i saying that

04:16:11.040 men couldn't get a master's degree i've never said that i'm blind in my left eye brian so are

04:16:16.160 you saying men couldn't get a master's degree you do you don't know that nobody ever said that thank

04:16:21.840 you i wish it's a different font or color but you were saying you were saying that all these men are

04:16:26.320 pushed into the universities and women are just man they're just barred from the universities i never

04:16:31.520 said barred okay the essence i said men are more likely to get pushed into universities by their

04:16:37.600 parents it's not true specifically in conservative areas conservative areas definitely more conservative

04:16:43.920 conservative you are the less likely you are to go to university you're gonna go to trade work

04:16:50.320 although that's somewhat socioeconomic too okay it's very socioeconomic dark omen thank you for the

04:16:56.080 t-shirt purchase shop.whatever.com guys if you want to get some merch shop.whatever.com we've got

04:17:01.040 some great stuff on there we got t-shirts hoodies other articles of clothing that can

04:17:07.120 prevent you from being naked i guess okay we have uh sib chair one thank you for proving lucas's

04:17:13.680 point iq has nothing to do with education iq measures how well your brain thinks not what

04:17:18.800 your brain knows iq is mostly 80 percent heritable 20 percent early nutrition

04:17:27.520 you want to respond to uh well that's not really a question it's just a thank you

04:17:31.760 do you want to like tell him you think he's cool or something you love him okay she loves you

04:17:36.960 all right claim chair one they really like you you are never i know they love me you're never

04:17:43.600 allowed on my misspelled spelled wrong yeah wow you're right misspelled misspelled but if you can

04:17:50.480 explain the pythagorean theorem i may let the others on on it or even easier what is negative 40 celsius

04:17:56.960 converted to fahrenheit he spelled bro you spelled fahrenheit wrong negative 40 is like um it's really

04:18:04.720 cold i think he maybe he was misspelling it intentionally to get under your skin all those

04:18:10.720 words well clean thank you bro you're thank you dude thank you clean clean thank you big sass energy

04:18:17.680 chair one did the ordo amoris meme what is that i don't know you brian you really need to start

04:18:24.240 bringing in the ordo amoris heat map memes into the the show it's very exposing it demonstrates the

04:18:29.600 order of care love i don't know what wait big sass energy what is ordo amoris i'm not sure what that

04:18:35.920 is thank you though man appreciate it more money and tell us what you think chef dill pickles chair

04:18:40.080 one insulted chair six over three times calm down lady it's just a conversation you did you were a

04:18:45.680 little mean to uh she's mean to all women and offending me strongly she was not how am i how

04:18:51.840 am i her opinion how am i offending you she wasn't you said she was weak you just look dead in my eyes

04:18:57.360 and tell me over and over again that i'm weak and i could never do anything just because i'm a woman

04:19:01.120 that offends me greatly i am also weak i also said that earlier okay that should offend you too

04:19:07.040 don't take it personally we respect diversity opinions here that's why there's a discussion here

04:19:11.200 every not an opinion every tax attorney don't take it personally i'm allowed to take things

04:19:17.920 personally though let yeah you know as the person i can she is a misandrist and that is why liberal

04:19:27.040 all right uh let's see here we have josh brooks we don't fit in of course however i totally agree

04:19:34.480 however no yeah exactly however the however fallacy is atrocious it probably insinuates uh

04:19:40.640 possibility to be wrong uh however insinuates a contradiction you can say too much however

04:19:46.080 i'm not even american and i know like you're not supposed to was it you no no he's saying that i

04:19:50.800 say however too much however however yeah maybe i don't know all right we have chef dill pickles here

04:19:57.760 to which he says chair one do men have duties unique to them likewise do women have duties unique to

04:20:03.600 them um well men can't give birth so i would say a woman's not duty but something that only women can

04:20:09.680 do is give birth do they have a duty to have children no okay they don't do men have any

04:20:15.680 duties no they don't no um breathe and live like that's for when women and men what about forced

04:20:24.000 military conscription i don't think that should be a thing at all but it is a thing but it shouldn't be

04:20:28.400 but it is a thing so you would have to concede it is a male duty but he's asking should men and

04:20:34.960 women have different duties or do they already well hold on in my opinion no there's no duties

04:20:42.640 specific to men or women in the us's opinion that no he didn't say should sorry he didn't say should

04:20:47.680 he said do men have duties unique to them likewise do women have duties unique he's not saying should

04:20:53.520 he's saying do they have that um i mean is is the draft even still like a big thing

04:21:00.400 different there's well it depends on the country but even in the united states there is a duty that

04:21:05.680 men have so there's not an active conscription but there is the selective service system where all men

04:21:12.800 have to register for for the selective service which would make them subject to forced military

04:21:18.480 conscription women are barred completely from this so i guess i guess that is a male duty however i

04:21:24.560 don't think it should be if that makes sense okay but this would probably point towards the oppression of

04:21:31.600 men men are oppressing that system why would that matter be what are you talking about why would it matter

04:21:40.320 who made that system it wouldn't it wouldn't that's not a a rebuttal to the fact that men would be

04:21:48.320 oppressed under said system men created a system where men have to go to war yeah but which men

04:21:55.680 which men which men the problem is you don't know that if women were in charge would there be a draft

04:22:02.080 we don't know because women haven't been in charge like that to to decide the draft or whatever is going

04:22:06.720 on well the the laws as they currently are on the books women are exempt from military conscription men are

04:22:12.880 not but i believe and maybe i'm wrong and we can't be i can't be i can't be proven wrong i can't be

04:22:19.520 proven right but if women were in charge of the laws maybe the draft wouldn't be a thing maybe

04:22:26.720 but you don't know that you're shaking your head no no we can i personally believe

04:22:31.440 okay i personally believe there should be no forced militarization there should be no forced draft no

04:22:41.120 one should be drafted no one should be taken to the military on purpose like it should be

04:22:44.880 a voluntary thing yeah but i can also say there shouldn't be war and there should never be violence

04:22:50.320 but given that we live in a society where war is a realistic problem there's a realistic uh chance of

04:22:56.400 it happening there could be pretext or reasons for a war occurring it could be a defensive war

04:23:02.160 we as a nation could even say we never want to go to war but if another country has a different set

04:23:08.320 of values and then they just invade us for conquest you would agree that we would need to have a military

04:23:14.880 to defend ourselves right yeah but a lot of people volunteer for the military sure people do volunteer

04:23:21.680 but only majority which is majority men by the way but if we had to force people to go to war

04:23:27.200 as the law currently stands only men can be drafted well that sucks i don't think that should be a

04:23:32.960 flaw well but i didn't make that law a thing but there shouldn't but it's kind of like this sort of

04:23:38.480 pie in the sky there shouldn't be a draft well there shouldn't be war but given the reality that

04:23:44.800 governments one governments and nations will not relinquish their right to force it's typically

04:23:51.280 male citizenry into uh military conflict we have to think about okay well since this is the case

04:23:58.640 then what what do you mean then what well it would go it would go to the point that men have duties and

04:24:05.360 women don't isn't it but do you think that's fair i don't even think that's fair you're a man you

04:24:11.440 think that's fair i don't think it's fair i'm look i'm not in favor i'm very much against military

04:24:18.080 conflicts we can both we can all sit here and say war bad no of course everyone thinks war is bad

04:24:23.200 or whatever right i'm just saying i don't they're asking me if men have duties and sure but men get

04:24:29.760 drafted or whatever do i think that should be the case no and you're acting like i put that law into

04:24:37.280 but okay that that's the world that's fine but given the reality that men have to register with a

04:24:43.200 selective service do you think women should equally have to register also yeah okay why is that because

04:24:49.840 it's unfair to only make one gender register for war sure but i don't think anyone should why is it

04:24:54.640 not the case though that like wouldn't this create an equality between men and women and it seems like

04:24:59.040 feminists are not really fighting for this i'm pretty sure most feminists just say that no one should

04:25:04.640 be forced to go to war everyone should be able to sign up for it man or woman people are not signing i mean

04:25:10.480 what i've heard from like my liberal cohorts is that like no one should be forced to go to war no one

04:25:17.360 should be picked who didn't offer themselves to go fight in the u.s military okay but here's the thing

04:25:24.560 is that it's not something that's ever going to go away like absent some sort of technological

04:25:30.800 singularity where like the world we live in is so different and so unconceivably novel to what anything

04:25:38.400 we've experienced the reality of it's almost inevitable there are going to be national geopolitical

04:25:45.360 conflicts and war is sort of to some degree an inevitability okay so given that there it's just

04:25:52.720 never going to go away and so i guess i still believe that even if war never goes away no one should be

04:26:00.320 forced into the military but can i let me give you an example then and you tell me what should be the

04:26:04.640 case so let's say there's a we're all here in the united states and let's say we're not a superpower

04:26:10.080 right because right now we have the most dominant military in the world right uh but let's say we

04:26:14.240 weren't and let's say uh i'll use i'll use russia uh russia is just more dominant as a superpower this

04:26:23.040 is a hypothetical yeah it's not the actual case currently but russia is more dominant in their military

04:26:27.920 might and we know that they're going to be invading us we get some intelligence that they're going to

04:26:32.640 invade and this this russia in this hypothetical scenario is very violent and very aggressive

04:26:39.520 and they're actually monstrous they're monsters and if they do invade the country it's going to be a land

04:26:44.560 invasion and they invade us what they're going to do is kill all the men and they're going to take

04:26:50.880 all the women and take them as war brides do you know that what a war bride is yeah yeah okay so they're

04:26:56.080 going to force the women into marriages and basically essentially grape the women yeah um

04:27:01.840 the only way and we could predict this somehow we don't have the military might to uh defeat russia

04:27:09.840 right but if we were to draft men and force men even let's say it's against their free will

04:27:15.760 we could force the men to fight and if we did do that then we would be able to stop this country

04:27:21.280 uh stop russia from killing all the men and graping all the women under and you were the dictator of

04:27:27.680 this country and you could impose this draft would you impose the draft so just to be clear uh all the

04:27:36.240 men would die anyways and all the women including yourself would be uh essayed you would you would

04:27:42.560 well first the problem is we don't know the outcome when it starts it's a hypothetical question so you can

04:27:48.000 give me the outcome before i answer in the which you did i said yes if we don't if we don't draft

04:27:54.080 they're going to be victorious but from the start of the war you don't just know oh if we don't draft

04:27:59.760 they are going to be victorious you don't know that well you know certainly you can tell the entire

04:28:04.960 society if we don't act now if people don't volunteer then we're all going to die or whatever

04:28:10.880 yeah but i personally do not think it's ethical to force people into situations

04:28:15.600 okay so just and you don't know the outcome huh in in a real life scenario you don't know the

04:28:24.720 outcome you can only see can you see why a country under those sorts of circumstances and mind you

04:28:30.800 historically uh an entailment of historical wars was that if the other nation invaded your country

04:28:39.440 and they were more powerful they were going to kill all the men yeah and they were going to do bad

04:28:44.400 things to the women yeah right a lot and so the countries made a determination and they said well

04:28:51.360 free will is important but what's more important is having the men possibly survive and making sure

04:28:57.520 the women don't get graped so just to be clear if you were the leader you would not force men to go

04:29:05.040 and fight under these potential circumstances i wouldn't force anyone so just to be clear your

04:29:09.920 lack of action would result in all the men dying anyways and all the women being graped but you

04:29:14.240 don't know that's the fact that's the entailment you don't think there's still some people who went

04:29:19.760 to the military who would try to fight you don't think we'd have any shot wait if i if a genie came

04:29:25.760 to me and said if you don't act now this is what's going to happen then maybe i'd change my answer but

04:29:30.720 you never know what's going to happen at the start of a war just so just to be clear those bad things that

04:29:36.720 happen in the hypothetical have happened historically yeah when there's been war yeah and there have

04:29:42.240 also been men who are like i also don't want to go and die you're not going to force me to go to war

04:29:48.480 but they get forced to go to war to prevent that very thing from not happening

04:29:55.040 hypotheticals are all hypotheticals i don't really know what you want me to say you could answer the

04:29:59.120 i answered and said i would not force anyone to do anything okay and you said that means everyone's

04:30:04.160 gonna get killed and raped but that's not the truth is because it's a hypothetical i said great

04:30:09.440 but in the hypothetical it's granted that this invading force has more military might okay if

04:30:14.880 you told me if a genie came down and told me i'm from the future and this is exactly what's going to

04:30:20.480 happen then let's say it's 50 that is not the truth let's say there's never gonna happen hold on

04:30:25.280 you're never gonna know what here's here's the intel so here's the here it is 50 chance so if you

04:30:31.840 draft the men you could still lose right it's not a certainty but there's a 50 chance that if you draft

04:30:38.480 all the military age men that you do have a there's a 50 chance that you're able to defeat the invading

04:30:45.760 enemy under those circumstances would you do a draft i don't know i'd have to be a leader of a country and

04:30:54.880 know what nuclear powers we had and know all my forces let's assume let's remove nuclear let's

04:31:01.520 so we have no bombs no guns no nothing uh there's guns it's just there's guns there's guns but there's

04:31:08.160 no nuclear weapons i don't know i would not want to force people to go to war people can make their

04:31:16.480 own decisions it would it would suck if my country went down but if everyone in my country said i don't

04:31:23.600 want to go to war then i'm not going to say too bad you have to because i believe in rights

04:31:31.040 okay sounds like you're not doing what it would take to protect men and women from being killed or

04:31:40.080 raped but well i don't know nowadays we have a ton of nuclear weapons we have things protecting us and

04:31:44.880 we have a lot of people who volunteer the problem with your hypothetical is it would never fucking happen

04:31:50.560 though there's hold on there's currently ongoing military conflicts in the middle east and in

04:31:55.200 ukraine do they have a choice to just like end it all no and they do draft people and it is a big

04:32:01.440 problem i just believe that no one should be forced into something like that because it's sad

04:32:08.480 men or women okay all right i'm gonna move it on we have uh tone police patriarchy great job

04:32:14.720 tonight brian you have been dealing with difficult personalities hi felicity great to see you at the

04:32:19.280 table chair six great job expressing yourself keep it up one two three four oh chair six okay all right

04:32:27.280 we have christian king ah yeah let's have illegal immigrants working slave wages instead of americans

04:32:34.160 and abort our working class america will be third world with this ideology liberalism leads to death

04:32:40.960 chair six based we should all pay people equal paying rights and we shouldn't use immigrants

04:32:46.800 for like the non-paying jobs but this is the world that we live in this is how in order to solve these

04:32:53.040 problems you'd have to completely uproot our entire we have to just throw everything out

04:32:59.440 they're just saying i'm based all right sorry pasty for the delay hold on quiet guys quiet please

04:33:08.400 chair one why aren't more women doing the dirty dangerous menial and labor-intensive jobs in the

04:33:15.040 world what is stopping them why are you not doing one of those jobs now care six is based like i've

04:33:24.000 already said um women aren't doing those jobs because it's not expected of them because of

04:33:28.720 societal pressures that are put on in men which is unfair towards men i agree however it was created

04:33:33.440 by men and it's upheld by men um and what was the other thing that they said they said why why am i

04:33:40.000 not doing a job like that now because i don't have to and a lot of the people who work those jobs those

04:33:45.200 are the jobs that they are able to get i'm sure if you asked a guy on an oil rig would you rather work

04:33:52.400 this job or become like a ceo of some giant company he'd pick ceo however not everyone's hand is dealt the

04:33:58.640 same circumstances all right we have a waste of money is there a hide that the uh is there a single

04:34:08.400 women can do excuse me is there a single job women can do that men can't i can't think of one

04:34:14.400 honest question give birth like i don't know that's the only thing job but that's the only thing that's

04:34:19.840 the only difference then there is none and i never said there was one oh surrogacy that is a good

04:34:26.480 job or a gig well you can get paid for surrogacy what's the difference you can get paid for a gig

04:34:32.720 i think when he's talking about job though you have to be a bit charitable here like something that

04:34:36.560 is um like a physical job can women be sperm donors no okay i don't think we would say like

04:34:43.440 i don't know if that would be like fair to make it but women can't be sperm donors so if you put eggs

04:34:48.480 and sperm in the same category women can donate eggs and men can donate sperm and that's like one

04:34:52.400 of the only differences but other jobs men and women can both do i never said that women can do

04:34:57.600 more than men i'm just saying like we have big sass energy here he says ordo amoris demonstrates

04:35:04.560 order of care conservatives care more about the things closest to them family friends humans

04:35:10.720 libs care more about rocks trees sticks inanimate objects please use we care about the mother earth

04:35:18.080 oh my god thank god well weren't you saying that you think the world would be better if there were

04:35:23.200 no humans yeah but it will come back to natural but what i'm saying what does that mean is that

04:35:30.240 it would be more peaceful there would be less destruction there would be less global warming and

04:35:35.040 things would just be a little bit more peaceful however however humans are already here i'm not saying

04:35:40.880 we should get rid of humans by all means like we're already here i just think we should be more careful

04:35:46.000 about where we live and we shouldn't only care about ourselves quick question for you are you like

04:35:49.760 you're kind of uh consider yourself an environmentalist or yeah a little bit question uh do you think we

04:35:56.400 should as on the individual level take steps to reduce our usage of like plastics for example yes yeah

04:36:03.840 okay like not drinking from water bottles or reducing our single-use plastics or reducing plastic

04:36:10.000 use in general um and you think that this would have a and i actually don't disagree with you this

04:36:15.680 would have like a positive impact like if we use less plastics if every single person on the world

04:36:22.240 used less plastics then totally however it's hard to get everyone on board especially when plastics are

04:36:28.000 so easy so it makes sense that we use people right it makes sense that things are going wrong however

04:36:33.600 there's some steps that we could totally take to make things better and we're just not taking okay um

04:36:38.960 question for you uh would you consider not wearing makeup yeah well that would reduce that would

04:36:48.160 reduce your usage of sort of disposable products often makeup comes in like plastic containers yeah

04:36:55.120 and i don't know are you maybe you're wearing just a bit of mascara or eyeliner i'm wearing some

04:36:58.720 mascara some concealer some blush i use the companies that i know like don't test on animals and are

04:37:04.080 cleaner brands i mean it's hard so i want to wear makeup because it makes me feel pretty but

04:37:09.840 i under i understand i understand where you're coming from with that

04:37:17.280 well you feeling pretty is more important than the environment

04:37:22.480 me not buying a tiny bit of concealer made from a vegan brand

04:37:26.240 probably wouldn't save the entire planet however if all women on earth said what if we all stop

04:37:34.320 using makeup i'd totally be on board yeah well i don't use makeup every day my makeup lasts me

04:37:39.600 months and again i try to use clean brands that don't give out so much fossil fuels and aren't as bad

04:37:46.080 for the planet well the however i don't want to go out in public feeling sad every day so i like putting

04:37:51.920 on a little bit of makeup well i mean i the cosmetic industry is such a global behemoth i mean

04:37:56.720 it's a billion multi-billion maybe even in the trillion dollar industry but it is interesting that

04:38:02.080 preying on women's insecurities yeah sure i guess i would agree with that but look it's just interesting

04:38:08.000 to me when you know i i think on the look the primary drive of uh environmental um what's the term

04:38:18.240 for it environmental uh what's the word uh conservation no there's another it's evading

04:38:25.040 me environmental pollution uh is typically through corporations yeah like individual if you look at the

04:38:32.480 individuals versus corporations although like these corporations are doing these things in furtherance

04:38:38.160 of individual level consumerism so they're kind of inextricably linked but it is interesting to me

04:38:44.800 that if we were to get rid of and i don't think makeup really serves any utility except i guess

04:38:52.080 as you said making women feel better yeah i guess um i think there's not an actual like for example

04:38:59.840 uh like spoons and forks have like a utility like we use that to eat i guess you could just

04:39:05.600 use your hands or whatever but there's like there are certain materials that are made that do have

04:39:09.920 negative impact on the environment that have a utility i don't think makeup has any actual utility

04:39:16.480 and i'd love to see how about viagra why is viagra i think that doesn't have utility why do we make

04:39:23.600 viagra i huh it's such a ridiculous point trying to say that i could argue it but it's just such a

04:39:31.200 ridiculous uh viagra is not a necessary thing and men get it for free from the doctors

04:39:35.280 and birth control is not free but we have to pay for birth control i'm just all the talking i'm

04:39:41.520 just saying if you're trying to play gotcha with me it's not a gotcha yes i wear makeup yes i like

04:39:49.200 have socks on from cvs who isn't a great brand you know there's lots of things you could play gotcha

04:39:54.080 with me about the environment i think socks are necessary though i'm not against okay i'm just saying

04:39:59.360 like yes i understand that like i'm not the poster child for environmental protectionism sure however

04:40:05.120 i'm saying there are steps that the government could even just take to like lower carbon emissions

04:40:11.120 well the only reason i brought it up is you're like well the world would be better without humans i

04:40:15.680 assume part of your argument here is that due to the uh humanity's impact on the environment and our

04:40:21.520 harm to like ecosystems and whatever part of this relates to uh environmental and ecological um what is

04:40:28.480 oh my god why am i keep blanking on the words uh to pollution uh and i was thinking like okay well

04:40:34.400 here's one simple thing that you could do on the individual level and i think it'd be great actually

04:40:38.560 if all women did it is just cease your consumption of makeup products and i'm asking here if we can do

04:40:45.440 a call to action here on the whatever podcast would you be willing to make a a environmental commitment

04:40:52.160 to stop wearing makeup entirely for the rest of your life for the sake of the environment

04:40:58.880 if some study said that only me stopping wearing my small amount of makeup would save the planet then

04:41:05.200 i definitely would do it but but you would agree but but makeup could be natural you could use beat

04:41:10.880 to put makeup on this girl i'm you're killing me devil's advocate yeah clearly um go ahead

04:41:18.880 there are so many things i could do that would like when i get my when i get my own car i'll try to

04:41:25.040 get a hybrid because i know that's the best for the environment okay when i take showers i try to

04:41:30.880 make them shorter if i'm shampooing my hair i'll turn the water off and shampoo and then turn the

04:41:34.960 water back on but even but i'm just wearing makeup that's it but your thing is like you're like trying

04:41:41.520 to play a gotcha moment stop wearing makeup there are so many other things i could do then do those

04:41:46.640 things also i do those things but also my choice to wear a little bit of makeup does not make me a

04:41:53.200 bad non-environmentalist person i think if you're it does not matter and you can keep playing gotcha

04:41:59.280 with me but honestly i don't give a fuck so well i think if you're going to make the argument and you

04:42:03.840 did make the you did say that that individual humans or what on the individual level you said that

04:42:10.320 we can take actions to reduce our environmental impact and i'm simply offering extending to you

04:42:16.320 a call to action stop using your makeup products which are pollutants and they use plastics and they

04:42:22.720 there's like even some of these makeup companies use like child labor in other countries well to

04:42:28.800 your knowledge no i make a conscious effort you research all the all the makeup you think the

04:42:34.560 champagne you bought wasn't made i don't care like stuff like that like he doesn't care i'm not

04:42:38.960 an environmentalist yeah no i i to to clarify though i do think it's important to protect the

04:42:44.480 environment like i don't think corporations should be dumping toxic sludge into into waterways for

04:42:51.440 example i do believe that there should be some controls on corporations from like yeah they shouldn't

04:42:57.520 be able to pollute the environment however like i'm not against like fossil fuels like i realize that

04:43:03.680 fossil fuels have like positive them either i just think we could use less and we could make an

04:43:10.080 effort to use less we should go nuclear that's what i think everyone should do nuclear nuclear would be

04:43:15.840 fantastic let me move it on though because we've got a bunch of chats to get through

04:43:21.440 george donated two hundred dollars chair one you don't want to go out into the world without makeup

04:43:28.080 otherwise you would feel sad you are so full of shithel mfao okay i wear i don't want makeup all the

04:43:36.000 time yeah me pasty george well put watch my tiktok there's no makeup in all of them thank you um i don't

04:43:43.040 wear makeup a lot of efforts you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar claim says chair six stand your

04:43:53.040 ground you are 200 better than chair one yes intentional mistakes uh negative 40c is negative

04:43:59.520 40f look it up or just check her ice heart it's not chair one easy to talk about war when you've never

04:44:04.960 been you're right i've never been you got me there have you been like what this guy been no yeah clean

04:44:12.320 all right keyboard warrior nice bangs big forehead chair one only argues in out and that means she's

04:44:20.320 smarter in ought and what about isms she hasn't said anything with a basis in reality entire pod you

04:44:25.840 want to respond to those accusations if you believe that i don't think i'm going to be able to change

04:44:29.920 your mind if you believe okay thank you dimitri hi brian i'm a myofascial practitioner from denver

04:44:36.400 with eight years of experience i've developed groundbreaking techniques that have transformed

04:44:40.720 many lives i followed your show and i'm aware of your neck issues for a while hey give me an ice

04:44:45.520 i need a nice pack my neck is bugging me uh thank you for bring reminding me dimitri uh i genuinely

04:44:51.680 believe i can help you significantly are you interested uh yeah sure man uh have you dm me

04:44:57.920 before on instagram just brian atlas x on instagram he wants to give you a massage

04:45:04.080 okay he wants to take your money or maybe he wants to help out i don't know i don't think he's i

04:45:09.840 think he's probably offering for free i mean uh he's probably offering to help what i'm that's

04:45:15.360 i'm not thinking to be true that's a very nice gesture emotional damage chair one sits under the

04:45:20.720 comfort men provide to talk like but you guys gotta listen chair one sits under sorry the

04:45:26.480 fuck was that let's all go let it out

04:45:28.880 you're what i naturally sign i sit under the no sign is really good and it's good for your energy

04:45:36.720 it clears your energy guys please treat these women the way they deserve to be treated this is the

04:45:41.440 result of men simping up to these rats i love simps these women are not worth a second look let alone

04:45:48.720 our chivalry okay we don't want it from you anyway right oh snap we want it from men that are willing oh

04:45:54.720 snap it will yeah i have plenty of men thank you for the 10 memberships thank you i just they don't

04:46:04.400 like any of us hey what they like they like you felicity what the fuck i don't know what felicity's

04:46:10.000 turning heel boys felicity's turning heel okay here's what we got to do guys we got to get through

04:46:15.120 uh you know let's bring it back to wait oh did i not save the comments from

04:46:19.840 okay uh i didn't save the stifler comment i don't know where the hell it went did it get

04:46:25.600 unstarred somehow that's weird okay anyways whatever uh what a stifler earlier in the

04:46:31.520 conversation he said uh going around the table all the women rate your looks on a scale of one

04:46:36.160 to ten you can't pick seven starting with you maren can't pick seven it's so funny honestly i

04:46:41.200 would say maybe a six or a five okay i don't think i'm not attractive what about you ten ten okay maybe

04:46:46.640 eight maybe an eight okay are you able to scoot your chair this way a little bit like scoot that

04:46:52.080 way yeah scoot that way uh eight what about you i'll go nine okay nine what about you sophia bergari

04:47:00.640 is a ten i'm not a ten i'm a five okay five what about you i do all right what about you six okay

04:47:08.480 so we have that we we have ten oh i give myself a five it takes a ten to know a ten give myself a five

04:47:13.760 uh so wait ten eight nine okay gotcha uh for those of you who said ten eight nine we'll start

04:47:21.840 with ten uh can you tell me a a woman who like maybe a famous woman who you think is a ten megan

04:47:29.600 marco oh no no megan the other girl the fox no the girl from australia she plays uh i'm not really

04:47:37.520 bad with names wait in the wolf of wall street yeah her her name's not margot i'm really bad

04:47:43.200 with names honestly so robbie okay marco that's like that's like the queen or the princess of

04:47:50.560 england yeah but she's still a ten too well i'm talking about that's my that's who my okay top

04:47:56.720 tier of or uh what's her name uh scarlett johansson and i've seen her without makeup and she was a ten

04:48:02.880 and she's a sweet girl she was super sweet when i met her

04:48:11.920 you don't think she's a ten scarlett johansson

04:48:17.280 sydney sweet i love her too so and so you're i'm like them yes you're on their level in terms of looks

04:48:27.440 okay interesting in it okay uh do you can you think of as smart as rich as can you have an eight

04:48:36.560 yes myself no but like a like a female celebrity um that would be kind of tough um

04:48:44.960 i'll come back to you uh can you think of a nine female like a female celebrity who you think is a nine

04:48:51.280 i'm gonna say no i'm not big into celebrity culture and i say that because of the way people

04:48:57.840 look at me and stop me and talk to me

04:49:02.160 life experience as in people look at me like like they should recognize me like i'm from some show or

04:49:06.880 like i am celebrity i have people come up to me all the time anywhere i go talking about how gorgeous my

04:49:12.720 hair is how i have all these amazing features so if you're saying physical looks i think i'm on the

04:49:18.880 upper side of the scale i get hit on a lot okay um oh yeah i thought of someone now uh i mean

04:49:27.440 because there's not so many well-known asian celebrities but there's this one celebrity from china

04:49:32.480 um i think some people have told me i do look like her so i figured if people always say i look

04:49:38.640 like her then she's better be oh wait you're asking someone we look like no a celebrity that

04:49:43.280 we look like your level yeah your level like she could be a she could be black she could be white

04:49:49.760 she could be latina but like your level but just hotness not personality league all the other things

04:49:58.080 looks league physical appearance yeah who is it so have you watched this movie called memorial geisha

04:50:04.560 nope okay so um the the main character can you pull it up uh can you google it what's her name uh

04:50:14.880 her her first name is z-i-y-i and her last name is z-h-a-n-g you like the black pink from the

04:50:25.440 korean band oh which one lisa or jenny better be jenny is that racist no no it's like i sometimes get

04:50:35.040 caught i look like so and so a lot and i think one time i was in northern california a woman just

04:50:40.720 approached me and asked me oh are you like miss korea 2019 i was like i don't even know who the heck

04:50:46.000 that is but thank you okay yeah all right thanks and uh let's see how about you what do you think

04:50:54.560 about yourself what are you he said five i said i'm a five five yeah five have a little bit more

04:50:59.360 self-esteem but just physically like i can't change i actually think you could change you

04:51:04.640 could go to the gym you could work out i mean you're tall you're you have good you have good

04:51:08.960 eyes you could you could put in a little work we could both work in that department but i know i'm a

04:51:14.480 little thick she just said that shit to me and like what are you talking about but as in only thin

04:51:19.040 people are hot yeah like she's hotter than her because she's 10 pounds thinner is what you're saying

04:51:23.920 wait who that's what i'm insinuating you're saying she could go to the gym and use it wait

04:51:28.880 she said that shit to me right sorry i'm giving you i'm giving you look at her like she's a perfect

04:51:33.680 10 so i'm saying because she's thinner what you're saying thin equals hot no bro are you listening

04:51:39.840 felicity felicity was criticizing me being like brian you can't say that to a woman and i was like

04:51:44.720 hold up she said that shit to me first i forgot i've spaced out for a second i'm just saying we all

04:51:51.040 have a way to make our markets share a little bit higher and you know you have to put a little

04:51:56.000 bit of effort we all have to put in a little effort you are so right thank you

04:52:03.360 okay uh okay i'll deal with that later so um oh and then can you tell me champagne can you tell me a

04:52:12.080 10 a male 10 that you think is like on your level well i guess he would have to be oh oh chris

04:52:17.920 hemsworth can we pull up uh google chris hemsworth did you get the show us the lady

04:52:24.320 door show us the lady first then google chris hemsworth door door like yeah yeah i know who that

04:52:28.880 is i'm just saying that that's peak okay show us the lady please

04:52:36.560 okay you look like her uh she's just a bit older yeah she's older she's a bit maybe the one at the

04:52:42.320 bottom when she was honestly bro you're better looking than her oh thank you you're better

04:52:45.680 looking all right you're out next time i'll take it next chris hemsworth please all right guys if

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04:53:28.080 chris hemsworth is a 10 for you correct for who so if you met chris hemsworth you i've met his

04:53:37.360 brother liam okay and is liam a 10 too yes so you would be like you could date chris hemsworth

04:53:45.840 potentially potentially i don't date all physical features yeah yeah so you're just asking about

04:53:52.560 hotness yeah oh so you're saying she has less of a chance based off no she's saying like he might be

04:53:58.000 hot but he also might be an asshole and then she wouldn't want to date him exactly you guys always

04:54:01.840 go to like these extra what bro there's too much shit going on what the fuck can you all chill out

04:54:09.280 holy shit god damn uh okay you're in chris hemsworth's you're in his league i like long hair yes i love

04:54:20.400 guys with long hair i get you like guys with long hair are you in his league totally okay um what about

04:54:25.600 you you're a nine can you think of a guy who's a nine who's like in your league or whatever no not

04:54:30.000 off the top of my head like you're asking about celebrity there'd be a recognizable name yeah

04:54:36.400 uh jake gyllenhaal what do you rate jake gyllenhaal seven can we see a picture pull

04:54:43.760 it please google jake he looks he's like a little cutie he's like nice looking yeah yeah

04:54:49.040 how tall is hold on how tall is jake gyllenhaal are we talking about included or just face card

04:54:56.400 like what's the vibe yeah i don't know face he's wait he's six feet oh he's six feet tall

04:55:00.960 he reads short on camera i smashed scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down he is a seven

04:55:05.840 so yeah hold on whoa whoa whoa wait wait wait wait wait hold on shut the hold on him with hair and

04:55:11.360 hold on him with i would go jalen hurts from eagles wait you think he's you think jake gyllenhaal's

04:55:17.760 a seven and because we just like different types of men what kind what's your type okay you like

04:55:22.320 black guys no it doesn't have to do with race but like 10 would be um this guy i've been following

04:55:29.040 for like years charles leclerc my favorite formula one driver charles leclerc yes who's that uh if you

04:55:37.680 watch formula one then you absolutely don't know this guy i've been to the gumball but like i said

04:55:43.280 yeah some guys some people don't find him hot but i just like a different type of guy all right

04:55:49.040 everybody has yeah look it's subjective i'm just so you would be settling for jake gyllenhaal

04:55:57.200 depends on that's pretty crazy personality it depends on the personality but i heard he's

04:56:02.640 not a very nice person but for you you're in you're a nine jake gyllenhaal's a seven you would

04:56:06.880 be settling for jake gyllenhaal as in right i don't find actors like somebody who plays somebody

04:56:11.440 else for a living to be that attractive i would go with like a pro athlete like who like jalen

04:56:15.520 hurts okay michael jordan michael jordan he's married he's got great moral values his branding is

04:56:20.800 great branding what the branding yeah all actors are branded so you're saying do we buy into the

04:56:26.720 bullshit girls are like no i don't want to fuck him because of his branding yeah it's hot like

04:56:33.520 i'm sorry the whole love hurts nike campaign they changed the whole like love statue in the

04:56:39.120 city of philadelphia to put his last name behind like he's hot right now and he's physically hot

04:56:43.600 and he just won the super bowl so okay what's his name jalen hurts all right google that guy

04:56:50.960 you should see the way he licks his lips on camera it's like super hot i've never thought a

04:56:54.960 football player was hot like that before i know who he is now chat i don't even know what to say

04:56:59.280 boys i don't know what to say and i and i i love watching men he was totally the underdog all right

04:57:05.280 this is totally not him first of all that's the gift you spelled his name wrong j-a-l-e-n hurts h-u-r-t-s

04:57:14.080 you said that's not even him first of all like go first can we get this pulled up a little

04:57:20.080 quicker who do you think is a celebrity like on your level do you wait do you do you have it

04:57:24.720 oh what is one answer

04:57:29.280 i'm hearing you're so sassy sorry jalen hurts eagle ball yeah but i do want to know the answer to that

04:57:37.920 okay uh scroll down scroll down scroll down i wanted to see more photos okay super physically fit

04:57:43.520 uh okay can we see like a face picture i mean scroll up there was a there's a couple okay all

04:57:51.440 right scroll up very top can you give me that one other guy just for further reference one other guy

04:57:56.880 that's a nine or whatever um i think so many people are hot hey please don't do sidebars we said it

04:58:04.560 multiple times at the beginning of the show please don't talk like okay channing tatum is like totally

04:58:09.280 google channing tatum please i would never want to date him though wait i don't even know if i know

04:58:12.960 what channing tatum looks like what is a guy here give us a guy you're asking me physically like

04:58:17.840 physically give us a guy who's in your league who you would also date

04:58:23.280 she would pass on channing tatum by the way but okay i'm saying he's probably a player like he's

04:58:27.520 probably not the type of guy i want to date but he's hot he's talking about just just superficial

04:58:33.120 just superficial yeah okay let's go channing tatum then there we go

04:58:36.480 oh yeah i like him okay so is that what it looks like right now i well i mean there's

04:58:47.200 variants here there's that second one he looks younger magic mike was my favorite these other

04:58:51.200 ones he looks older uh so okay is there jake jump seven really you think jake gyllenhaal's a seven

04:58:59.360 these girls are settling for jake gyllenhaal fellas don't group us all young brad pitt

04:59:04.800 it's all group young brad pitt what what do you give him like in his 30s so that's like troy or

04:59:10.800 wait fight club troy oh fight club yeah that was his prime right she likes the shirtless moments

04:59:18.160 with brad pitt there what do you rate he is he's a petite man to me so for me he was always like an

04:59:24.000 eight heat wait yeah and he reads he reads small on camera how tall is he how tall is i'm not sure

04:59:29.520 i thought he's like i think he's average he's brad pitt's 5 11. wow i'm older than brad pitt

04:59:35.520 that's short it's kind of crazy yeah but in film guys are usually smaller that's just facts like

04:59:41.360 in acting guys they don't chat this is this is what you're dealing with in the dating marketplace

04:59:47.520 these girls think they'd be settling for like these girls you've only asked the three who ran

04:59:52.720 themselves very high i mean clearly i think all of these men are far out of my league he's not a

04:59:58.320 great dude okay but also i am 19 and they're like in their adults so i'm not sure but i personally

05:00:05.040 think i think jake gyllenhaal is even out of my league not chris what hit no all right the guy from

05:00:11.840 the notebook no i just never found him too attractive because i think it's like the

05:00:25.120 person you know who so many men find attractive and i don't understand that fully is ryan reynolds

05:00:32.160 a lot of men think ryan reynolds is like the hottest guy ever and he's not ugly but i like

05:00:38.240 don't understand why men specifically like think ryan i think it's like personality thing probably

05:00:43.200 he is hilarious they probably are like likely his husband yeah but what does he do he's an actor

05:00:50.880 i don't know what he looks like what is ryan reynolds in is he's in some sort of a marvel

05:00:55.840 thing i think now she's been cancelled have you seen i didn't say settling for jake gyllenhaal um

05:01:00.880 okay not not all of them you must really like jake gyllenhaal yeah maybe who knows maybe you have

05:01:05.520 like a guy crush on him wait can i ask you just one question like not offensive at all i just

05:01:10.400 genuinely want to know like what's a celebrity a girl celebrity that you think is in your same

05:01:17.440 that you think you could pull that you think you'd like be i've pulled celebrities though

05:01:23.040 that's not nothing just in terms of looks yeah i rejected so uh taking personality out of it

05:01:30.080 completely just like looks wise who do you think you could match up well with i'm not really big in

05:01:34.720 on celebrity culture so that was my answer so yeah no i mean i'm trying the thing is is this

05:01:40.720 question is more to like look at these sort of extremes where like you guys are rating yourselves

05:01:46.800 on par with like like the most attractive people not you these three here though well ten eight nine

05:01:53.840 that's like nine is that's cruel in poland i'm a seven in america i'm a ten interesting

05:02:02.960 i have all natural features natural hair natural tips natural everything so i do think that i was

05:02:08.640 like gifted a beautiful body i've got great eyes and all my teeth so i i don't understand why you think

05:02:13.680 i would rate myself any lower like i she has great self-esteem yeah i'm a confident human you could

05:02:19.200 say i specialize in making other women feel sexy for a living doing she would take amazing photos

05:02:25.360 helping women figure out how to style themselves in lingerie me huh great me i think a five's accurate

05:02:33.120 how tall are you i'm six foot one okay that gives you buying points so just to be clear if you and me

05:02:38.400 you're how old are you you're 30 35 okay we're i'm 36 we're about the same age so if we met somewhere

05:02:43.440 you're a nine and you think you're nine and i'm a five i think i'm a five you think i'm a five

05:02:50.240 you would be said you would four points you're going you're going into the ditches to date me

05:02:58.080 like you're you're you're scooping the bottom of the bottom of the personally think hot guys cheat

05:03:04.240 more so i've i don't have an issue dating somebody who i don't think is like a 10

05:03:08.240 on the hot scale like i think personal she was i think personality and like how you vibe with the

05:03:14.080 person matters a lot more than how many abs they have because people can get abs you can buy them

05:03:19.200 and you can go to the gym so like you might not look great now but if you're in a happy relationship

05:03:24.240 you might want to work on yourself a little bit and then you might become an eight or nine

05:03:28.880 women can help men level up and vice versa yeah yeah i think like if if we were dating like no offense

05:03:34.720 i i i'm not you know maybe we got different assessments you probably wouldn't date me either

05:03:40.000 it's all good i'm just saying like in terms of helping each other level up like maybe there's

05:03:44.320 work in both departments that could be done that's all i'm gonna say you know you've been directing a

05:03:49.280 little bit of a brian saying i'm at my ideal weight right now i was in a car accident two months ago and

05:03:53.600 have definitely gained weight since then but it doesn't mean i'm less attractive wait what do you mean

05:03:59.040 picking clothes that fit your figure whether you're thin or fat you can be a 10 i don't think

05:04:05.200 that you have to be a certain weight and height it's the way you can't be hot well it also depends

05:04:09.920 on the person it's styling it's wardrobe guys some guys nothing to do with whether you have a six pack

05:04:15.440 or not some guys a little bit uncomfortable sitting next to you why because you were why you keep

05:04:21.120 wanting to see young brian i said that one time bro felicity is like let's see you in your 20s

05:04:26.320 yeah she's right because she's calling you a little gooner over here she's right i want to

05:04:31.120 see you in your 20s i'm not saying he's overweight i'm just saying he's not like in an athletic shape

05:04:35.200 when you were he's in video video this is this is peak male i am not hitting on you this is

05:04:41.600 peak male performance you no thank you felicity i know i know i'm joking it's a little banter

05:04:47.440 pull it up pull it up pull up young brian i mean your pictures on instagram look good with the girl

05:04:52.080 i want to see young brian me too like come on welcome okay thank you felicity pull it up

05:04:57.760 brian pull it up nothing the the photo but i wonder how old were those instagram pictures

05:05:05.040 couple years is he catfishing no what what no i'm saying those pictures on our instagram account you

05:05:10.320 actually looked very good there damn bro she's saying how old are they are they ryan night

05:05:16.000 why why is this alternative god damn brian you looked good you used to look good

05:05:20.880 you could look good again are we pulling it up are you seeing who are dating what's your

05:05:28.000 situation it's a young brian picture dog dog or just god damn do i gotta okay felicity entertain them

05:05:33.840 try your best yeah or just pull his instagram account up i don't know all right i have a question

05:05:40.720 circling back to something from earlier if that's okay so we were discussing how most of us think that

05:05:47.280 men should pay on the first date my question was how many dates should a guy take you on before

05:05:52.560 you decide to sleep with him and some reading glasses if you're somebody who's waiting for

05:05:56.880 marriage do you think the guy needs to pay for everything all the way up until that point oh

05:06:00.800 shit anyways back to me yeah that makes sense oh all right here's young brian come on you are so

05:06:06.800 fucking hot that's you that's a 10 definitely that's not you you don't even what age are you

05:06:14.800 in that are you serious what age are you in that uh like 22 i think wow what happened well don't say

05:06:22.080 hey you got a boyfriend chill out i'm just surprised i'm just surprised because you without

05:06:28.240 the beard and with that hair is much different than you with the facial hair damn bro you got

05:06:32.640 a boyfriend you got to be careful what you're saying and you're what 36 no i'm saying it's not

05:06:37.280 even about that it's just saying uh you're saying you would smash another i never said that okay that

05:06:41.920 was her my bad i got it i would i just said wow that was the question pull it back and that

05:06:48.000 in this in this world where if i'm just shocked because when i'm looking at these two like i can

05:06:54.800 see the similarities but also it's very different now yeah you know and i'm just like it's like two

05:06:59.840 decades that's like two decades right there yeah when i look at pictures of my dad when he was younger

05:07:04.560 i'm shocked because he does not look like my dad what we've done with you guys is we've we've put

05:07:08.480 all of you through ai well hold on we'll get to that i need to wait is that what the waiver

05:07:12.720 pull up my instagram pull up my instagram pull that shit up put us all through ai uh you'll see

05:07:18.000 but oh you put like our faces through what ai to the bottom oh just see what we roll to the

05:07:23.120 bottom mary mary scroll to the bottom the mustache wait can i guess the year of the mustache was

05:07:30.400 that 2016 oh you're a surfer that's brian this is me that's like scroll up you're a surfer

05:07:35.680 wait scroll up to the mustache picture look how thin i was can i see oh my god can we see the

05:07:41.920 mustache picture that's hot x out of that go back up for a little bit oh wait go up a little bit

05:07:48.640 felicity's gooning over here what the way go up a little bit gooner this is not the same chill out

05:07:53.360 felicity bro god damn wait scroll up go up scroll up click on the mustache picture that's coming

05:07:59.760 scroll up keep going wait wait wait click the angel one the girls love the puppy yeah what's that

05:08:05.440 wow excel dad excel scroll up good sport for doing that costume wait click on one of the mustache ones

05:08:12.240 uh yeah that one that's such a you were so what year was that uh that was 2012 i think 2012 i guess

05:08:20.160 2016 yeah yeah you can click the other ones if you want so you've been doing whatever podcast for that

05:08:27.600 long uh the whatever podcast has been like three years i've been doing well your shirt right there says

05:08:32.240 what why i was doing different content oh okay okay it's been whatever for a while but i've been

05:08:36.960 whatever for a minute wait your old person costume is actually great did you get professional makeup

05:08:42.160 it was it was what's the term in uh special effects there's a word for it though prosthetics

05:08:48.080 prosthetics yeah yeah scroll up anyways whatever that's all right there it is young brian i don't know

05:08:54.640 why young brian we just prefer without facial hair you would look 10 years younger without the

05:09:01.040 facial hair maybe bro the triple chin would be by the way one bitcoin if you want to see suck that

05:09:07.040 out the the triple chin you know triple chin i'll shave my beard send five thousand dollars and brian

05:09:12.400 will shave one bit wax the beard one bitcoin and i will shave my beard to bitcoin he'll wax it right now

05:09:18.880 is bitcoin still a thing i thought that was over it's like at 120 000 it's 110 oh it went down okay i

05:09:25.680 don't know whatever i still like all right number four who's rachel de losel you right that's you

05:09:33.040 that's a good question what does that mean oh my goodness i have to pull up some chats i've got

05:09:37.360 distracted by looking at my young self that's what i'm saying i was so charmed golly me donating two

05:09:44.000 hundred dollars suffragettes gain strong male support for the 19th amendment granting women rights privilege

05:09:51.520 no duty would these women fight equally marching in washington dc for men's rights without the draft

05:09:59.280 who were men to take away our rights why did we not have rights from the beginning you guys don't

05:10:03.280 understand the fact that we should have always had rights this rights would shouldn't have been given

05:10:07.760 to us the rights should have been we're human we're both like you guys don't that's the point that you

05:10:13.200 you guys don't understand why were we not given rights to to the begin with like the rights

05:10:21.120 it's frustrating to meet trinek massage donated two hundred dollars thank you bro appreciate it

05:10:27.200 you on brian atlas i'd happily do it for free i'm really not blowing smoke either i've changed the game

05:10:34.720 new medical understandings of fascia read the reviews for my business do you know what i'll look into it

05:10:41.840 thank you thank you dimitri i'll check my dms after the show appreciate the message we have clean

05:10:46.080 here good good clean good clean he says yeah a couple times in combat wouldn't bring it up if i

05:10:53.440 hadn't little experience with sacrifice and loss umc uh oath oh 311 that i don't know if i'm saying

05:10:59.840 that wrong that's a grunt i know that question was next not telling my unit so he did see com he was in

05:11:07.600 combat he was in the military well thank you for your service thank you for your service clean thank

05:11:12.800 you thank you you should apologize to clean for questioning his i will not do that

05:11:20.160 okay we have chef dill pickles chair three oh boy rate z jinping's looks on scale from one to ten

05:11:27.600 am i gonna be censored is this a safe space to talk what uh yeah you can yeah i'm actually gonna call his

05:11:35.840 wife tonight and uh yeah and then have a more uh orchestrated answer to that what you're gonna have

05:11:43.360 a threesome no i said i'm gonna call she's wife tonight yeah because i'm not like close enough to

05:11:50.640 like i've never seen him in person so his wife knows better like on a scale one to ten like how what he is

05:12:05.840 oh it was a was that a joke no that was a joke yeah you actually know i don't i don't actually uh

05:12:17.760 have the contact information of his wife okay even though i wish otherwise i wouldn't be sitting here

05:12:24.560 you said it was such a straight face i really thought you were serious oh cool i can play that

05:12:30.080 poke her face she's a lawyer yeah wow good times okay uh going around the table do you think you'll

05:12:36.720 be better looking in ten years time better looking looks just looks i don't know hopefully it's going

05:12:42.400 to the table if you can um i don't know hopefully hopefully uh yes a million percent do you what do

05:12:47.920 you think though i don't know if you had to bet if you had to pick one ten years i'll be almost 30

05:12:56.880 yep i'll probably have already had kids by then um okay but hopefully i'll keep going to the gym

05:13:04.480 sure and stuff um and feeling good about myself i i don't know i can you how about 20 years can

05:13:12.240 you definitively say that you'll right now you're better looking than you will be in 20 years in 20

05:13:17.600 years i'll be almost 40 yeah to the male gaze yes to the female gaze i don't know i think i'll enjoy

05:13:24.240 the way i look when i'm older sure i'm excited to get old you're 32 better looking in 10 years time

05:13:29.040 at 42 yes into the mic please yes uh 20 years time 52 yes 30 years time 62 yes 40 years time 72 yes 50

05:13:40.560 years time 82 yes 60 years time 92 uh it's i'm gonna be hot no matter what what age any but all the time yes

05:13:51.360 here repeat the question back to me just so i know you you're asking me if i'm gonna be less hot

05:13:56.800 compared in 10 years or in the more years yeah well better looking yeah yes i think women age grace

05:14:05.200 gracefully and i appreciate women you know i appreciate women's age and i love the way they

05:14:10.640 look when they're older me too and i don't i don't i think the women should be aging perfectly in age

05:14:16.240 when they get older and i think i'm gonna look hot no matter what okay and then uh and the technology

05:14:21.920 is gonna be crazy in the next five years even okay so and then going back uh 10 years time

05:14:29.680 are you better looking now at 32 than you were at 22 yes okay um so just to be clear 102

05:14:39.040 you will be better looking girl than how you look at my grandpa died at 98 so i project to be old

05:14:47.360 i would take care of myself sure let's say you yes i feel like 40 i personally would always think

05:14:52.960 myself of being hotter age when i grow older and older i will always be as hot and i'm gonna to men

05:15:01.200 i don't care what men think but isn't there a component of when we're talking about attraction

05:15:07.280 we are talking about something external to us right that's why i asked are we talking about

05:15:12.960 the male gaze or are we just talking about what we think maybe to other people know but for me

05:15:17.200 personally yes i will always feel hotter and what age the older i get the more confident i'll get the

05:15:24.400 more i'll know who i am the more everything will open up like a flower i'll be blooming even more

05:15:29.520 so just to be clear when you're 102 uh or let's say let's even here let me make it more realistic

05:15:36.640 let's say when you're 50. yes if somebody could come to you at 50 and let's you know there are

05:15:43.280 going to be i suppose some technological advancements when it comes to like plastic

05:15:47.120 surgery and skincare and this sort of thing but assuming you didn't opt to have any of those things

05:15:52.000 and you just age naturally you don't think it would be the case at 50 if you could wave a magic

05:15:59.040 wand and get back the looks that you currently have as it exists right now you wouldn't do it no

05:16:08.560 so you i love uh sprinkles i think those are beautiful and i think women should be okay to be

05:16:15.040 aging gracefully into their natural bodies and i think it's beautiful i think you're

05:16:22.160 i don't know if okay whatever uh what about you you're 29 will you be better looking in 10 years

05:16:26.000 time 39 i mean hopefully i'm pretty confident i have good genetics because both my parents are

05:16:31.760 still look very young and whenever i go out with them and they don't even people don't even think

05:16:36.480 they're my parents and one time i was out with my mom and people thought uh she's my co-worker

05:16:41.440 um but also just going off her point i think sometimes it's beyond physical appearance it's

05:16:48.160 also about your inner confidence your demeanor uh the way you dress like for example um i am

05:16:55.680 biologically older but when i looked at my pictures from early 20s i was like despising myself for like

05:17:02.160 the makeup i wore and also the outfits i put on so i think it's all about the mentality um if you feel

05:17:09.280 good about yourself because i feel people generally build their confidence more as they get older

05:17:14.560 okay um uh let's see here uh so 20 years time will you be better looking at 49.

05:17:23.600 if you're simply talking about physical appearance then okay i probably won't look as good but

05:17:30.400 on the other hand wrinkles can still be pretty it's not necessary to put in a bunch of botox just to

05:17:36.080 disguise the fact that you're aging gracefully okay um all right uh is there any age at which

05:17:45.040 you will be less good looking than you are now like is it 59 69 79 maybe um 50 50s okay and then

05:17:53.040 are you better looking now at 29 than you were at 19 oh definitely okay going to you you're 35 will you

05:17:59.920 be better looking in 10 years time at 45 yes uh will you be better looking in 20 years time at 55

05:18:09.360 i i'm i believe and agree with what she said and i think that wisdom is beauty and knowledge is power

05:18:17.040 and so wisdom is not like fine wine beauty it's right question is about i think my grandmother is just

05:18:22.400 as beautiful now in her 90s as she was in her 20s the cope is insane she's as physically beautiful

05:18:30.240 she is a stunning woman and she still dresses and everything about it to a t is beautiful so i think

05:18:37.440 that style evolves as you age sorry not the answer you wanted all right um okay so you'll be better

05:18:46.320 looking at 105 i didn't say that well i'm asking if you would i don't think i'll be alive at 105 let's

05:18:52.240 say you are oh my god bro no physically i'll be wrinkly by then like to a probably in a hospital bed if

05:18:59.040 i were to live that long okay so at what point like when's your peak i think when your brain diminishes

05:19:05.280 your beauty goes with it when you turn into a vegetable things stop looking nice if you love

05:19:11.760 you can i ask you can i i want to ask you both a question like why do you hate all my answers because

05:19:16.560 you because if you hold on how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning we didn't

05:19:25.520 i fast all the time just fine it's just a hypothetical wait so how would you feel if you didn't have

05:19:32.320 breakfast this morning fine but what was your answer to the previous you said i you said you didn't have

05:19:38.000 breakfast i didn't have breakfast today i usually don't have breakfast neither did i we went to

05:19:44.640 lunch okay um so okay 65 versus 35 better looking at what age i'll go 35 okay and then going back in

05:19:55.200 time you're 20 uh better looking at 25 10 years ago or 35 now i look like a totally different person

05:20:03.600 so i think both were equally hot i see uh okay uh you're 47 will you be better looking in 10 years

05:20:11.360 time at 57 i don't think so into them please into the mic i don't think so okay and you're 47 uh were

05:20:19.840 you better looking 10 years ago at 37 than you are now 47 no 20 years ago 27 versus 47 no better looking

05:20:27.360 now wait so okay better looking at 20 or 47 than 27 100 but you'll be better you're better looking

05:20:37.840 now than you will be at 57 i think so can you speak into the mic can you i need you like this close

05:20:43.600 this close enough i don't think i'm um i don't think i'll be okay you're 20 will you be better looking

05:20:49.360 in 10 years time at 30 no okay uh pull up the age ai advancements some of you guys said some pretty

05:20:55.520 crazy answers here uh so this is go go ahead do you think you've reached your peak beauty babe

05:21:01.760 you need to have more confidence i think that's so sad that's very sad you think my whole nose is

05:21:06.960 going to change shape you have a lot there's so many things you need to work on your self-esteem

05:21:12.880 discover about yourself i've worked on i thought i was ugly for the longest time and i had to work

05:21:19.600 that's what they called me when i was little growing up my sister's like you're the ugly duckling i had

05:21:23.280 to grow grow into the beauty yeah me too all right here and plastic surgery but that helped

05:21:30.880 i mean and and what are these ages this is what ai thinks but what i'm gonna age i don't know um

05:21:37.680 ai thinks my whole face is gonna change okay and ai isn't capable of actually understanding what

05:21:46.480 the aging process fully is for humans but i'm really glad you're trying to play a gotcha moment with

05:21:52.080 me once again i don't think it's a gotcha don't think it's a gotcha but i already said that i

05:21:56.640 don't know what i'm like you don't know that that's what i'm gonna look like well of course if you

05:22:02.000 showed yourself when you were 20 a picture of you now would you believe yourself let's do the ai on

05:22:06.400 your 20 year old picture now to see how yeah let's do that but this is not meant to be offensive this is

05:22:11.600 like this is usually like the fun part it's not meant to hurt your feelings over the fun part of the

05:22:16.080 the show but okay um hold on one second to me it feels like you're trying to be like look how ugly

05:22:22.320 you're gonna get when you're old even though i didn't i say that wait did i say i i didn't

05:22:26.720 say oh i didn't say you're making you gotta stop interrupting i didn't say that you said the word ugly

05:22:34.400 not me okay did i say the word ugly did you hear what i said tell me what oh repeat it then it's

05:22:40.080 making me feel like you are i don't care how you feel your feelings have no basis in reality

05:22:48.400 unless i've made it you're asking what we think we can think but not feel like we're women so we

05:22:53.600 can't feel we can't think or feel bro i literally did not say that you guys were that had it had

05:22:59.760 nothing to do well you started the question with do you think you're still gonna be pretty or what

05:23:04.640 do you think am i gonna look like when i'm older and then you show me some weird degraded

05:23:08.640 ai picture of me when i'm like saggy and old hold on as if that's fact so hold on well first off

05:23:15.440 ai is not going to be a perfect representation it's like making a prediction uh you're it's probably

05:23:22.720 not perfect i know it could even be really off but it's to give you a potential representation of

05:23:31.120 aging but you started the question by saying do you think you're going to be more attractive

05:23:35.520 and you just wanted us to say yes so you could show us a picture of us old and i would have pulled

05:23:41.520 this up no matter what all of you went through the ai aging process yeah that's what we're going to do

05:23:47.920 but i just want to make it clear i'm willing to make let's move past chair one yeah so so what do you

05:23:52.480 want me to say about those pictures so what i'm prepared to say is that i do think as people age they

05:24:00.480 become less attractive if you think that that's offensive okay i don't know what to tell you but

05:24:06.640 i am prepared to make that claim that yes i think as people get older they generally become less

05:24:12.160 attractive at what age do you think beauty peaks i think there are some differentials between men and

05:24:18.320 women but i think typically uh if you're asking me about women i would say probably like you're looking

05:24:24.480 at peaking at 25 and then i think there's like steady decline okay thank you for your answer

05:24:31.200 so do you think when you're like an 80 year old man hopefully married to an idiot you're way too far

05:24:35.760 from the mic please so do you think when you're an old man maybe married to an old woman you're not

05:24:41.760 going to think your wife is attractive you're going to be staring at 25 year olds well you said that old

05:24:45.920 people are ugly and that beauty peaks at 25 you can keep putting words into my mouth that's literally

05:24:52.240 what you just said how would it literally be what i just said because you said beauty peaks at 25 and

05:24:58.320 it gets ugly as you literally be what i just said if i literally didn't say it because you literally

05:25:03.600 said that age like beauty peaks at age 25 so i'm asking literally it's not literally said you would

05:25:09.040 still find your old wife attractive you did not say that i'm asking the ai too i'm just but i'm

05:25:14.080 just asking we're never gonna finish this conversation he said we're not allowed to feel

05:25:21.680 that's that i didn't say you weren't allowed to feel i said i don't care that she feels that i was

05:25:28.080 about to say something about women being ugly i didn't say that i thought you're about to say that

05:25:34.000 nobody's in control ai that's just what ai thinks i just think the question being phrased is do we

05:25:41.600 think we're going to be more or less attractive followed by pictures of us as ai grandmas is

05:25:48.000 supposed to be a gotcha moment and i don't like that okay i mean thank you for your contribution go

05:25:53.280 ahead pull up we're gonna pull up it is reality or is it you and i are at our peak age right now after

05:26:00.080 we have kids you're not your peak we're we're going to can't even legally drink yeah we're going

05:26:05.680 to yeah and get uglier it's just the fact of life just cope we're all entitled to our opinions that's

05:26:15.840 your opinion and that's it it's reality and we're trying that's your reality it might be yeah it might

05:26:21.920 be your reality i think ryan happy that you think you're gonna get uglier with age here let's get i

05:26:27.520 i want to move the show along so we can hopefully get through this okay oh who's that oh me that's

05:26:33.680 batty batty what's up let me take those dentures out look look look let's go

05:26:41.360 sorry i'm not hoping you not do that please um okay so you said i look amazing what do you mean

05:26:47.760 what that's funny okay troll i look great uh yeah look it's not even gray like my blonde is

05:26:53.040 still blonding it's like better blonde than than the one i'm here like my hair is gonna get even

05:26:58.000 nicer like see you're looking for her to be offended by the picture i'm not looking i'm not

05:27:03.920 troll because she said she thinks she still looks i think it is a bit of a troll answer to be like

05:27:08.720 yeah i'm like to to give that answer to say yeah i'm i'm so hot when it's like come on let's be

05:27:15.680 realistic here i see that's right so how we're okay i drink a lot of water i'm gonna stay hydrated

05:27:21.680 love that for you next i also love that

05:27:28.960 wow what do you think where i will look i'll look i know i think i'll look way better than that

05:27:37.360 yeah just by looking at my parents age but it's okay i'm not offended that's just ai

05:27:42.160 i can't wait girl that's not even you in the beginning

05:27:48.560 wow they did they did a lot of favors for you what the

05:27:52.640 in that first photo bro what

05:27:57.520 so you wow what do you mean there it's it's what they know it's

05:28:02.880 you got a hickey maren is that a hickey i don't know what you're talking what the

05:28:08.240 fuck maren oh my sorry i have a boyfriend so your own photo that was taken up and sitting

05:28:13.200 at this table you're saying got favors sorry you want one i'm just saying they do a little

05:28:17.840 there was a tune-up job what it's they they face tuned the first photo and only mine not anybody

05:28:25.200 else's no no i think they do the other ones but i don't stop face tuning the original photos uh

05:28:30.560 uh whoever's doing it oh my god i could do a better ai job i'm not very photogenic all right

05:28:37.440 next it's a state of mind oh my god she's also not photogenic

05:28:45.520 well she i think okay whatever um next

05:29:02.480 no they do facetune the original

05:29:07.440 all right let's see felicity here oh what the

05:29:10.320 fuck god damn so dirty yikes all right go ahead do me but they totally changed your whole face

05:29:17.680 oh my god use that photo from now what are you talking about you look like king child

05:29:23.600 wow god damn like does i have her picture good they totally changed like her entire facial anatomy

05:29:30.000 right look it's ai it's not gonna be like ugly hyper realistic you know i mean you could do like you

05:29:36.320 you could fine tune it but it's just like a super quick thing that people in the discord do um is

05:29:41.520 there another one of me okay now we're getting into gender are you gonna make us can you double

05:29:48.080 check i look like my brother kind of fire i kind of wait to see all right keep an eye on it keep an

05:29:53.120 eye on it to see oh boy okay uh roy zoran thank you for the gifted five subs appreciate it we have

05:29:59.920 pasty george here thank you pasty george donated two hundred dollars share one the face and body

05:30:07.120 sag as you age you can say whatever you want or even claim gotcha however in reality no woman can

05:30:14.880 ever beat the world in reality i'm not attracted to children

05:30:17.040 who are so butthurt over an ai picture lmfao women age and if you like women i'm not butthurt

05:30:23.280 over the ai picture of a woman's body over um period oh god

05:30:30.240 and yes women said so do men hector whenever chair men's balls sag they're up to here

05:30:36.160 i'm just saying holy fuck dude okay whenever chair one is asked a question she creates a hypothetical

05:30:41.600 to deflect from answering honestly otherwise she's stumped as it contradicts or falsifies

05:30:47.440 her worldview she sidesteps the point galore andrew wilson would make her cry by holding her feet to the

05:30:53.280 fire um andrew wilson probably would make me cry i'm not even gonna lie he's like a master at rage bait

05:30:58.800 i'd probably be getting really upset by him um and creating a hypothetical to deflect from answering

05:31:04.560 honestly i'd love for you to like pull up lots of evidence of that but also i believe that all my

05:31:10.000 answers have been accurate to what i believe so oh sure hate me if you want but i'll never know

05:31:15.840 you in real life and i don't care that was beautiful thank you for sharing that okay we need to get to

05:31:23.600 uh let's see here uh you sure have life okay uh i wanted to come back to our conversation we our

05:31:31.040 conversation at the beginning of the show was all over the place you were talking about charlie kirk and

05:31:34.960 then you went you compared him to andrew tate and then you i just said they're in the same

05:31:39.680 category in my mind and you said that charlie kirk would be like you're fearful of women in his

05:31:46.800 circle or something like that i don't know what that claim was about um oh i wanted to explore this

05:31:54.080 you said you're a misandrist can you explain again what that is um you know i just believe that

05:32:03.040 if women were in power there'd be a lot less issues going on in the world if every country in the

05:32:08.400 entire world was ruled by women i truthfully wholeheartedly believe that we would have

05:32:14.160 so many less issues and even though i may not be able to be proven right or wrong

05:32:19.520 that is my belief everyone's intelligent believes sure and i'm not saying i hate men i'm just saying

05:32:25.680 that i believe that women are smarter than men in certain ways but and maybe you can try to prove me

05:32:34.640 wrong but again i believe that a lot of the educational system like has been set up by the

05:32:39.520 patriarchy so it's not fair for you to say that men's iqs are currently higher than women's or

05:32:44.880 whatever fact you're gonna throw at me one thing at a time you you shot answering one question i know

05:32:49.120 but you're shotgunning a lot a lot of points here i'd like to take them one by one if that's okay so

05:32:53.280 they all are grouped together in my mind let me really quickly just explore again you said the

05:32:57.360 patriarchy as it relates to the education system we already went over it i quite clearly demonstrated that

05:33:03.280 there are more women going to college and getting degrees than there are men this would completely

05:33:08.400 contradict and debunk your point that the patriarchy is made like if there was a patriarchy wouldn't it

05:33:14.160 be the case that they'd be trying to favor men into higher education have you read history books that

05:33:20.960 happened all throughout for the past four decades women have predominated in the university four decades

05:33:27.120 of hundreds of thousands of years that this yeah we're talking about right now so here let me but you

05:33:32.080 can't talk about right now no ignoring history watch while ignoring history yeah for the sake of

05:33:37.840 conversation i and i have some disputes as it relates to his your historical points but i'm just going to

05:33:43.600 grant for the sake of argument that you're a hundred percent right historically yes women were had all

05:33:49.760 these bars to entry into education system now that i've granted your argument on that let's talk about

05:33:56.080 modernity in modernity for the past 40 years well 40 45 years women have had a dis have been

05:34:02.640 disproportionately represented in higher education now that now let's talk about that how could it be

05:34:08.960 evidence current day that the patriarchy has any sort of foothold in anything if it is the case that

05:34:15.600 like if the patriarchy wanted to maintain power and and the patriarchy wouldn't you want to exclude women

05:34:22.720 from higher education because you would agree that higher education gives people more opportunity

05:34:27.280 and it would try to push the majority of men into having uh opportunity as it relates to higher

05:34:32.960 education but that's clearly not the case there's more women in higher education it defeats your point

05:34:38.320 entirely which is what what point does that defeat that the point women i think women are smarter or what

05:34:46.720 patriarchy and women are barred from higher education college doesn't mean you're smart

05:34:52.560 i mean i agree with you i'm just saying that i believe that if the world had turned out differently

05:34:58.880 and women were in power we would be a lot better off okay question for you that's what i mean when i

05:35:04.800 say miss and question for you on that um if if i were to say just to be clear i this is not my position

05:35:12.320 necessarily but if i were to say the following would you think it would be sexist i think that the

05:35:18.720 world is better because men do have more power in it yes i think that's sexist so how is your position

05:35:24.960 not sexist if you were to say i think the world would be better if women were in charge it is okay so

05:35:31.600 you're sexist she said she's messing misogyny is the opposite of misandry feminism is in the middle

05:35:39.520 okay so you hate misandry but okay misogyny isn't i hate all women it's i believe that men are better

05:35:46.960 than women and deserve more power feminism is i think everyone should be equal and misandry is i think

05:35:52.480 women deserve more power i believe that women would do better in positions of power than men and that is

05:35:59.200 my belief system okay but you would also wouldn't you fight against men making the positive claim

05:36:06.880 that men are if men are in positions of power that they actually think that the world would be a

05:36:12.720 better place if more men are in positions of power yeah what about it well you would object to that

05:36:18.080 statement right they'd object to mine what but shouldn't you object to your own sexist rhetoric no

05:36:23.920 so it's okay just to be clear you're against sexism sort of but only if men are sexist towards

05:36:29.920 women not if women are sexist towards men you know i truthfully also believe that if women were in power

05:36:36.080 sexism would not really be as big of a thing everyone's lives would just be better off and

05:36:40.640 that's my again that's my own belief i don't believe that women if women were in power i don't

05:36:46.480 believe that women would create a system that is unfair towards men i believe that things would be a lot

05:36:52.320 more equal i just think that women would be better off in power i'm trying to explore the logic so you

05:36:58.320 would be i assume i do i very ideologically opposed to a man saying that they think that society is

05:37:07.840 better or would be better if men well let's say men are currently fully in power uh you would object

05:37:15.200 to this sort of statement yeah well men already think that all the time i'm not i'm not sure if that's

05:37:20.720 actually the case because you're well that's sort of a male supremacy view but i think a lot of people

05:37:26.000 believe in sort of a more complementarian perspective as it relates to gender roles but

05:37:31.760 i'm just curious so you think just to be clear you think society would be better if women were in

05:37:38.400 charge yeah yeah i do but so then you can't then object i suppose you might disagree but i might

05:37:45.440 disagree but i don't object they can say whatever they want to say they can believe whatever they want

05:37:48.720 to believe so you're fine but i'll fight them on it and they can fight me on my view i'm fine with

05:37:54.000 that i mean they're actually there is some logical consistency there if you're if you're saying you

05:37:58.320 would disagree but you'd actually be okay with men saying yeah we should continue the patriarchy because

05:38:04.480 i think the patriarchy is better for the world men are allowed to think that yeah and are men also

05:38:09.600 allowed to think for example the world would be a worse place if women had predominated in rules of

05:38:15.680 power yeah people are allowed to people are allowed to think whatever they want to think

05:38:19.600 okay but you would probably categorize it as sexist right sure but you're sexist too yeah

05:38:25.760 oh well okay but sexism is bad sexism on a grand scale where women have been like shut down and

05:38:35.360 oppressed in multiple ways is a bad thing and i again i believe that if women were in power they would

05:38:41.200 not be oppressive towards men it would just be different and again you can never prove me right

05:38:46.480 or wrong because we'd have to completely uproot the world and change the way things are that's just what

05:38:51.760 i believe mary hide it sorry go ahead i put don't don't worry about it go ahead i was done with my

05:39:00.400 sentence can you just repeat the last 10 seconds i got distracted there um i believe that if women were

05:39:08.000 in charge there they would not be oppressive towards men it would be different however you

05:39:13.600 can't prove me right or wrong and so it's just a belief just like a lot of things are just beliefs

05:39:19.040 i'm fine with people arguing with me i'm fine people disagreeing with me that's just my belief system

05:39:22.960 okay so sexism bad though yeah okay so why are you engaging in something that's bad because sexism on a

05:39:30.320 grand scale where like if we denied men the right to do jobs or to make money or to do different things

05:39:36.640 that would be bad however i believe that if women were in power men would not be oppressed in any way

05:39:42.960 things would be a lot more equal and women would just do better in positions of mass power that is

05:39:49.200 my belief there's no way to prove me right or wrong so you're just gonna have to take it as my word and

05:39:53.840 that's just what i believe i'm okay with people disagreeing with me i'm okay with men thinking that

05:39:59.200 it's different there's lots of men who think that only men can be in power and you know a woman's just

05:40:03.680 gonna bomb someone when they're on their period which is complete bs but that is a big thing that

05:40:08.320 a lot of men think i'm allowed to think what i want to think and it's just a belief and there's

05:40:13.200 no science behind it i mean there's a little bit of science behind it but i'd have to really do like

05:40:16.720 a deep thesis paper on this if i wanted to like really try to prove myself my confusion here is if

05:40:22.880 it is your position that sexism is bad and we should move away from sexism how are you going to

05:40:28.480 reconcile your own admitted sexism because i don't believe if women were in power they would

05:40:34.640 actually oppress the male gender it wouldn't be a sexism thing it's just me saying i think women

05:40:42.400 would be better in power the way that men are in power they oppress women in multiple ways i believe

05:40:48.160 that if women were in power they would not oppress men people would be equal but women would be more

05:40:52.880 in power uh how are women oppressed i don't want to get into this rage bait with you right now

05:40:58.880 how how would that be rage bait it's literally you literally just said so many ways that women are

05:41:04.880 oppressed okay what ways are women oppressed sexually men have more sexual power if you if you get

05:41:12.880 essayed and you go to a judge it's way more likely that a man's going to be let off the hook than a

05:41:16.400 a woman wait what men have whoa hold on hold on one at a time please one at a time uh you're saying

05:41:23.600 that when it comes to when it comes to prosecutions and somebody being found guilty you're saying women

05:41:30.720 are more likely to be found guilty of crimes than men are no i didn't say that's what you just said

05:41:35.280 that men are likely to get off the hook for sexual aggression how so as compared to like right now

05:41:43.600 trump's trying to like say that diddy shouldn't be in jail did he actually make that claim he tweeted

05:41:48.880 that trump sent a tweet about diddy yeah i'm not aware of the tweet maybe but i'm just saying in

05:41:56.800 general if in general there's so many stories of women trying to come out about their essay stories

05:42:03.120 and getting shut down because you know what were they wearing and different things about men

05:42:08.800 there is oppression there and it's if even if it's not the u.s there's mass oppression in oh my

05:42:16.000 gosh so many places in the world we're very lucky in the u.s i i know that there we are i am not very

05:42:23.440 oppressed as a woman in the u.s you know but there are so many places and we're forgetting that there's

05:42:29.120 so many places we're like women aren't even like allowed to sing or speak or go in public without a man

05:42:34.800 so everything in the middle east come on like that's terrible yeah that's true and so and so

05:42:41.360 yeah it depends on the country and in the u.s we're very lucky to not have to deal with such

05:42:46.320 strong oppression however there's still aspects of oppression that we deal with if one woman is

05:42:51.680 hurting we're all hurting i have a question different countries we're all women we're all

05:42:56.720 here together we're all hurting i have a question for you so you said that in like um

05:43:00.960 um feel like countries like scandinavian countries where females are in places of power do you think

05:43:07.760 that women are still oppressed in countries like that definitely not as much i mean i'm sure there's

05:43:12.640 still some male aggression towards females but i know like in the u.s maternity leave is very like

05:43:20.720 subjective however in places like scandinavia i know that they get like paid maternity leave men get

05:43:28.320 time off so that they can spend time with the family their hospital like they get cared for

05:43:33.040 they have nurses that care for them and give them like spa treatments because they know that birth is

05:43:37.760 hard i mean that's just a small example but you know other people are not afforded that because

05:43:43.360 here how are women oppressed

05:43:47.760 okay i'm asking how we've been talking about it

05:43:53.120 how are women okay here let's start with something simpler then first can you just uh give me

05:43:58.160 a definition of oppression like not getting the same basic rights as other people okay sure so

05:44:05.280 what rights do men have that women don't control over their bodies well that's not true women can't

05:44:11.680 have abortions anymore women have the right to get abortions not everywhere you know that woman in

05:44:17.120 georgia who's like on life support even though she's completely brain dead and the family wants her to be

05:44:21.440 killed like be taken away because she's completely brain dead but the hospital will not let them

05:44:27.120 take her off of life support because she is pregnant and though so they're using her body

05:44:32.080 as like basically like an incubator until the baby is birthed i i can engage with you on the abortion

05:44:37.280 thing but is there anything besides abortion you can point to as it relates to uh a right that the man

05:44:42.960 has uh women do not in the law no in society you can see it trickling in in just different ways

05:44:51.200 but if we're talking about rights typically we are talking about in the law i would say abortion's

05:44:56.320 the biggest is there anything else though just not that comes to mind but that's just laws not like

05:45:03.760 systematic and social oppression okay so it's okay you don't need to check on it it's fine um

05:45:13.600 so on the abortion argument i don't think that this is actually evidence of

05:45:18.480 an inequality that exists between between men and women because what we're doing is is doing a

05:45:23.440 comparison between men and women what rights do men have that women don't men don't have abortion

05:45:29.360 rights so you would have to agree with me but men were able to make abortion rights even though it's

05:45:34.080 not their body you're moving away from the actual argument let me make the argument let me make the

05:45:38.080 argument so you're saying that women don't have any abortion rights well excuse me you're saying in some

05:45:46.400 states women don't have abortion rights because you would you would agree that in other states

05:45:50.880 women do have yeah in california we have abortion rights so in those states you would say that there

05:45:55.680 is no difference of rights between men and women in the law but socially there is oppression just in

05:46:04.320 different ways but as it relates to abortion you would agree that men can't force women to get

05:46:09.600 abortions right well by law i guess technically yes by law technically yes they can in some states

05:46:17.920 men created the rule that they are not allowed to get abortions but and so that is a man telling

05:46:23.840 a woman she's not allowed to get an abortion but men can't force a woman to get an abortion right

05:46:30.080 no because it's illegal now even if they want no but a man let's say the woman wants to keep the

05:46:34.720 kid and the man doesn't want to have a kid he can't force the woman to get an abortion it depends

05:46:41.680 there's no legally no he can't but physically he probably could there's ways sure there could be an

05:46:47.200 abusive guy who's like drags her physically to the abortion clinic and is like i'm gonna kill you if

05:46:52.960 you don't do it yeah yeah sure that could happen but that has nothing to do with like there is no

05:46:57.120 right that would grant a man like an ability to force a woman to get an abortion no okay so wouldn't

05:47:03.040 you have to make you would have to agree with me on this that that it would actually create a

05:47:08.480 certain level of equality that exists between men and women in order for there to be equality as it

05:47:13.680 relates to reproductive rights you would just have to outright ban abortion entirely no yes

05:47:21.920 no let me explain it to you men have no reproductive rights so equality would have to dictate that in

05:47:29.280 order for there to actually be equality between men and women you would have to walk back women's

05:47:35.360 abortion rights for there to be equality but men have the right to impregnate impregnate a dozen women

05:47:40.800 at a time and then you're saying those women don't have that's not an argument but okay go ahead and make

05:47:45.920 it how is that not an argument as in if a guy gets me pregnant and i don't want to have his or you're

05:47:52.800 saying i want to have his child he doesn't want me to have the child right that's the scenario it's not even

05:47:58.240 no that's not the scenario he's just saying that in order for abortion rights to be equal men should

05:48:03.840 also get a say how about men take birth control he's saying i'm not saying that i'm saying uh

05:48:10.720 one no i don't think that that should be the case but two uh men cannot force women to have abortions

05:48:18.240 i'm not advocating financial support they can leave the relationship they like they can do it yes

05:48:23.440 men and women are allowed to leave relationships cohabitated and then and then the man gets the

05:48:28.400 woman pregnant but says i don't want you to have the baby if you don't get an abortion you got to

05:48:32.240 get the out of the house how is it her fault that she got pregnant because she had sex literally

05:48:37.200 logically doesn't even fall they were in a relationship living together you're talking

05:48:41.280 about something completely different the point i'm trying to make here is is you're you're making the

05:48:45.920 argument that women are oppressed and that women do not have equal rights to men in the united

05:48:52.080 states to which you cite abortion laws or reproductive rights since men have no reproductive rights i would

05:48:58.720 say that in order for there to be equal rights to men in the usa between men and women the only means

05:49:04.720 by which you can uh arrive at equal rights between men and women would be to walk back abortion rights

05:49:12.080 for women i'm not saying that that should be the case what i'm saying is that would have that would be

05:49:17.200 how it would have to be for there to actually be equality between men and women if men were like

05:49:22.960 seahorses and they could also carry children i would agree with you but they can't so i don't agree with

05:49:28.880 you but okay just think about it logically yeah i don't know i am honey if you're not you're putting

05:49:35.920 your feelings if you're arguing if i have to carry a baby for nine months and then rip open my vagina to

05:49:42.080 give birth to it and a man doesn't even have to be there if he doesn't want to i think i should

05:49:46.880 decide if i want to go through but that's not the argument i'm making you're making the argument that

05:49:52.000 if we wanted to be a hundred percent equal but what equal is not always fair so you do agree that's not

05:49:58.400 equal then so what this is this argument women can't impregnate themselves okay here's the context of

05:50:04.000 the conversation the context is it's what rights do men have that women don't so within that context

05:50:15.680 men don't have reproductive rights so the fact that in some states women don't have access to abortion

05:50:22.480 i don't think that you could say that that should be something women can have they should have access

05:50:26.880 to abortions but it's not evidence of men having some sort of advantage or privilege or benefit or

05:50:35.040 right that women don't the question is what right does a man do men have that women don't

05:50:42.960 as you guys are correct only women can get pregnant but this has nothing to do with a

05:50:47.600 comparison of women's rights to men's rights men don't have any rights as it relates to their reproduction

05:50:53.200 so your your claim that well abortion rights if i were to go ahead yeah sure okay women don't have

05:51:02.480 abortion rights what does that have to do with equal rights between men and women you and i just disagree

05:51:08.160 on that and i don't think we're ever going to see eye to eye on abortion rights which a lot of people

05:51:12.080 aren't going to see eye to eye on abortion right i'm not having an abortion debate with you i'm having

05:51:16.240 a debate with you on men's and women's rights but you thinking that women don't have the right to get

05:51:22.320 an abortion by themselves hold on i didn't make that i didn't even make that argument for all you

05:51:26.480 know i could be pro-choice but you saying that it wouldn't be equal i think we agree differently on

05:51:32.080 that agree differently okay um i could be disagree i could be pro-choice and make the same argument i just

05:51:40.160 made and i disagree with that argument so but what is i i'm a little confused here so

05:51:46.000 how what specifically do you disagree with the argument about i disagree that in order for

05:51:52.720 abortion rights to be equal for men and women abortion should be banned because men don't

05:51:58.480 should get an equal say or something okay to clarify i'm not speaking should i'm speaking i

05:52:04.480 know hypothetically i'm speaking descriptively so descriptively it is the case that because men

05:52:10.560 don't have these i'm not saying that uh men should be able to like get an abortion on behalf like

05:52:17.200 that's not what i'm advocating for okay i'm advocating for the that i'm or well i'm actually

05:52:23.600 making a counter to your claim that men have rights that women don't okay you would have to

05:52:29.360 establish that men have abortion rights to make the claim that in the states where women don't have

05:52:35.600 abortion rights men have abortion rights if men don't have abortion rights which they don't in

05:52:40.960 any state then how could it ever be the case that women not having abortion rights in a state is

05:52:47.840 evidence of men having rights that women don't possess i'm not saying i'm just saying that means

05:52:55.120 oppression to me and even a lot of women to a lot of women not having the ability to choose if they

05:53:02.240 want an abortion or not is oppression and if you don't think that you don't think that that's your

05:53:07.680 opinion my opinion is that it is oppressive to not let a woman make decisions about her own body

05:53:13.120 even if a man impregnated her and that is his child i still think the woman has the right to make the

05:53:18.800 decision if she wants an abortion or not yeah and so i actually in response to something you said

05:53:23.040 before you mentioned how uh you i think you said something along the lines of men don't have bodily

05:53:28.880 autonomy when did i say that i think you said something along those lines bodily autonomy

05:53:35.040 everyone has bodily autonomy i don't know what you mean by that what you said didn't you can

05:53:39.280 somebody rewind the rewind the tape you didn't say something about like men don't have any uh loss of

05:53:45.680 bodily autonomy or anything like that oh the right to their bodily autonomy i think that can you repeat

05:53:50.640 how you framed it like men don't have a law that like dictates a part of their body the way that women

05:53:57.440 do where women could be forced to not have an abortion whereas there is no law that says like

05:54:05.440 men aren't allowed to do certain things right how about circumcision or like how about a law that says

05:54:11.840 when they turn 13 they all have to get a vasectomy because then they can't get someone pregnant and

05:54:17.120 they can get it reversed whenever they want that would be an issue because it hurts their right to their

05:54:23.840 own bodily autonomy however that's not a law the only the only laws that affect bodily autonomy

05:54:30.960 happen towards women that's what i can you can you think of any law that or uh can you think of any

05:54:38.000 law that relates to the bodily autonomy of men the only thing i can or the taking away of it the only

05:54:44.080 thing i can think of would be the draft but i already said that i don't think that should be a thing

05:54:48.640 but it is a thing but i already said i don't think it should be just like i don't think women should

05:54:53.200 be forced to not get abortions right so like i don't know where you're trying to get at me with

05:54:59.120 that but yeah well originally you were making the claim that there's no nothing at least as it relates

05:55:04.800 to law that takes away men's bodily autonomy and you you mentioned one i give you i guess some credit

05:55:09.760 there for at least saying that forced military conscription would take away men's bodily autonomy

05:55:14.880 but like i said i don't think that should be a thing but it is a thing but i it doesn't matter

05:55:20.480 what you think it's reality and that's what it is i can give you two others though i'd like to give

05:55:26.960 you two other examples uh when it as it relates to bodily autonomy so uh infant boys circumcision

05:55:34.480 circumcised that's the parents choice well here's the difference i don't i don't think that should happen

05:55:39.360 yes i agree with you i'm well i'm against circumcision but what i would point out to you

05:55:45.280 while there aren't any laws for example that force boys to get circumcised you would have to agree that

05:55:51.360 there's significant social pressure cultural pressure religious pressure and uh you know even in on the

05:55:58.960 healthcare front there's certain uh i would call it propaganda that relates to this yeah where doctors

05:56:06.080 are like pediatricians are advocating for the the procedure of circumcision but what i would point

05:56:12.720 out though that does sort of relate to thank you for your addition to the conversation i appreciate it

05:56:21.760 hold on well i'd like to finish my thoughts so uh there is a law that is sort of related to this so

05:56:29.200 the circumcision of uh of baby girls is outlawed yeah so while there isn't a woman it's horrible it's

05:56:38.800 female genital mutilation it happens a lot in like um tribes and like somalia and stuff it's very brutal

05:56:47.360 and i think it's good that we have laws on the books against female genital mutilation but i think there

05:56:52.480 ought to be a corresponding law to prevent circumcision or what i call male genital mutilation sure but there

05:56:58.720 isn't so that would indicate to me although again there's no law that says men must be circumcised

05:57:03.920 there is a law that prevents it from ever happening to baby girls but society and culture has completely

05:57:10.240 accepted this barbaric practice as it relates to baby boys can i say something yep i'm not fully sure

05:57:15.840 how circumcision works i've never researched that i'm pretty sure it's like a surgical practice correct

05:57:21.120 like the baby boy would go under or would be put under some sort of a medication or something it doesn't

05:57:26.320 just happen like right out there in the wild i'm actually not entirely sure i'm not yeah i know they

05:57:32.240 do it right when the boy is born and i'm not sure the surgical practice of it but i know that female

05:57:37.600 genital mutilation happens when the woman is completely of age and conscious no medical practice is usually

05:57:45.520 well it doesn't happen in the u.s yeah but no medical practice is usually used no anesthesia

05:57:50.560 no pain meds no nothing the girl is strapped down and just carved up and then stitched up and the

05:57:58.000 reason this is also done to the reason it happens is because they want to make sure that the woman is

05:58:03.760 a virgin so you can see that she's still stitched up when you marry her circumcision is a religious

05:58:11.440 practice that happened a long time ago do i think it's right no do i think i'm gonna circumcise my

05:58:16.480 sons no i don't really however go ahead you cannot compare the two fully uh actually i can and here's

05:58:23.760 why so for example one of the arguments that they often make there's a social component too as it relates

05:58:29.520 to circumcision women's own preferences dictate this like there there is a component of parents being like

05:58:37.040 well i live in a society where circumcision is practiced and if my son there's a there's the

05:58:44.320 health care component that's kind of bullshit like hygiene whatever uh there's plenty of men in the

05:58:49.120 world who are not circumcised who have perfectly good hygiene but there is a social component where

05:58:54.160 parents are going to make a determination while everybody else is circumcised is my is my baby boy

05:58:59.840 going to fare perhaps worse when it comes to dating or when he becomes an adult when he does become

05:59:04.960 uh start dating because of women's genitalia preferences and it seems to me the case there's

05:59:10.240 a lot of women especially in countries where men are circumcised women have very strong preferences

05:59:15.280 towards circumcised men it's because they didn't have the option of and single moms are almost

05:59:21.360 invariably always getting their baby boys uh circumcised in the united states i'll just make the point i've

05:59:27.600 never met anyone who cared um i understand that it is a thing and i don't even know what religion

05:59:32.800 actually circumcises i've never done research on circumstation or circumcization or whatever sure

05:59:38.080 but um do i think it's right i never said that so but i we're talking about we're talking about bodily

05:59:46.720 autonomy and i i do actually think the case at least if we're speaking in the us and a lot of western

05:59:50.960 countries female general general mutilation and if i'm even willing to grant that like at least

05:59:55.920 some of your argument has merit insofar as uh perhaps the reasons they do it are very questionable

06:00:03.040 or they do it at a certain age where it's like okay although i would say there's plenty of men who

06:00:08.240 didn't get circumcised when they're babies and they get circumcised later on in life circumcised with like

06:00:12.960 no pain do they get circumcised with no pain meds no nothing or like i i would like to know how the

06:00:18.400 procedure is done i again not a total expert on this i'm almost certain it's not as barbaric

06:00:24.880 at adult well in the again in the united states my understanding if you're an adult male and you

06:00:30.080 opt to get circumcised there's going to be some level of sedation i assume i don't know if it's

06:00:36.160 like localized anesthesia i'm not an expert on adult male circumcisions but i would again point out

06:00:42.880 that there are laws on the book that completely completely preclude female genital mutilation so

06:00:49.600 that can't be done so that does relate to bodily autonomy then then the other one would be well

06:00:54.160 you mentioned the draft so i won't go into that the other one would be uh kind of related to the

06:01:00.320 abortion or um the uh getting pregnant or whatever is so we did away with debtors prisons many like

06:01:10.480 a long time ago we realized that if you owe the debt if you owed money that you shouldn't have to

06:01:16.400 go to prison for it we did away with that uh there can be sort of penalties and ramifications or credit

06:01:22.000 score they could they could garnish your wages but you can't be sent to prison if you owe somebody money

06:01:28.320 the only way though that this is still actually a thing is through child support and this disproportionately

06:01:34.320 impacts men i think 97 of child support payments go from men to women if you uh if you have a kid

06:01:42.160 your bodily autonomy can be taken away if you don't pay child support and then in in addition to that

06:01:49.120 there's another component besides like prison time or jail for not paying child support you also they

06:01:54.320 can essentially in fear of potentially going to prison you're basically can be forced to work when you

06:02:01.520 otherwise wouldn't and i would consider that under the purview of taking away somebody's bodily autonomy

06:02:07.360 if the court says go to work and work some job that you don't want to do yeah that would kind of be

06:02:14.000 taking away your bodily autonomy it's modern day slavery it's a horrible thing it's debts or yeah i guess

06:02:19.040 debt slavery i know it's bad i don't i don't support it the but that's the current system system is for

06:02:25.600 profit sure yeah but like i could not they put people jump i don't support that and i don't support

06:02:34.400 taking away a woman's right to get an abortion so i'm on like both sides and you're acting like i'm

06:02:40.000 i'm saying that like all men should have to do all that stuff while women should get all the freebies

06:02:45.600 i'm not saying that at all men shouldn't have to deal with that stuff and women shouldn't have to

06:02:50.480 deal with our stuff everyone should have the right to their own body do you think men should pay child

06:02:54.960 support i mean it it depends if if a mother decides to give up the child then no but no she chooses to

06:03:03.680 keep it unilaterally let's say um the man says i don't want it the woman says i do want it no i

06:03:08.960 don't think the man should have to pay child support you do recognize though that under the current

06:03:13.120 system every single state despite the the man's wishes say he doesn't want the child in each instance

06:03:19.920 the woman can force him through the state to pay child support and if he doesn't he ends up in jail

06:03:25.040 and i don't think that's if he didn't want to have a child why did he uh ejaculate inside her

06:03:29.600 that's not that's not because people get pregnant by accident people get pregnant by accident all the

06:03:33.840 time pull out if if he gets her pregnant and she says actually i want to keep it and he says no i

06:03:38.880 really don't want to keep it i don't have the money for that i don't have the time for that i don't

06:03:42.640 want to be a part of this anymore i'm dumping you and she decides to keep it on her own she's

06:03:46.400 responsible for that child he should not have to pay child support it's not the case though

06:03:51.920 we can talk about what should be sad like i don't know why i don't like do you want me to like

06:03:56.960 become the president and change things like that would be a difficult thing for me to do all i can

06:04:00.960 do is advocate for what i believe in i mean and i'm doing that right now i don't think men should

06:04:06.320 have to pay child support if they make it clear before the woman gives birth i do not want this child

06:04:11.680 if he doesn't know about the child any of that he should not be forced to pay child support

06:04:16.240 well i mean i i suppose i would extend and maybe i don't know if this is an olive branch to you

06:04:20.320 maren uh i don't know if you've seen how the there's this article recently about how the democrats

06:04:25.040 aren't able to reach uh men i don't know if you heard about that they're struggling to capture male

06:04:30.480 voters the democratic part are you a democrat i don't really i'm kind of unlabeled well did you vote

06:04:36.240 for kamala yeah i voted for kamala um although but like i'm not against republicans i'm purely against

06:04:42.240 donald trump okay that's fair enough um i think that and you're also a pro-choice right yes you're

06:04:50.320 okay you're you're in favor of abortion you know what could actually be a compelling argument to get

06:04:54.880 a bit more men to to be pro-choice but also to lean a bit more uh left or at least more

06:05:00.640 democrat shouldn't have to pay child support i think if you make the if you make the argument

06:05:05.600 that attached to securing abortion rights for women you were to say in instances where men didn't

06:05:12.960 want to have children they could do something called legal paternal surrender where they say i'm

06:05:18.560 relinquishing all paternal rights to the child and in so doing i'm not financially or parentally

06:05:24.320 obligated to the child in any way now this would be sort of like then the government has to step in

06:05:29.680 which house like will help with sure i guess stamps and all that i guess that means we're all paying for

06:05:36.000 it the taxpayers are paying for that baby sure but i think anyways my position if we're talking about

06:05:42.640 what is in any state where women do have abortion rights i think men should have a corresponding right

06:05:49.280 to not have any sort of parental responsibility which includes child support yeah one of my friends

06:05:56.720 personally had a baby with a random girl and he was he went to court he went to find for this child

06:06:03.120 he wanted that child he helped her he has a child now so there are men who want to take care of their

06:06:07.680 kids even good men out there that want to help out no but he's just saying like like imagine you're a

06:06:15.120 man and you get someone well he did it he but imagine if he said that's part of him that's still his

06:06:21.360 child that's still his dna that's still a part of him why would you not want to take care of something

06:06:26.480 that is you a part of that's why women get abortions because they're not ready to have a child

06:06:31.440 they don't want to have the child they don't feel physically or emotionally or um financially ready to

06:06:37.360 have a child if a man doesn't feel that way and the woman wants to keep it the man should be able

06:06:41.600 to not have to take care of the child even if the woman wants him to or not that's like trapping him

06:06:47.840 you should be considering all those things before even having sex though

06:06:53.280 but also i just don't think it's right to just have the men relinquish their rights so easily what

06:06:58.000 if the dad just wants to be a that be that he just simply wants to escape all the responsibility

06:07:03.200 after impregnating the woman when the woman can have a choice to not let that into the life

06:07:09.200 when he had chose to have sex with this woman he should have considered there's a possibility of

06:07:13.760 pregnancy and well but are you are you pro-choice or pro-life i think i'm pro-choice okay but hold on

06:07:20.720 but the thing you're gonna have to contend with is people who are pro-life are going to make those same

06:07:26.400 exact arguments towards women what the moment of conception but the thing is there but why okay

06:07:34.240 but so hold on to be consistent though if you're saying well hold on like let me frame it like this

06:07:40.880 the man let's say the man doesn't want to he's not ready to be a father he's not financially ready

06:07:49.280 or here let me change it the woman is not financially ready to be a mother

06:07:53.040 would you say that under those circumstances it's okay for her to have an abortion

06:07:59.120 i mean if she i think this goes to the autonomy of a body so it's women's choice whether they want

06:08:05.840 to keep the child or not but yeah but i'm just asking about the reasons why so you might even

06:08:10.880 say whatever reason maybe there's no reason she just wants to get an abortion you'd be fine with it

06:08:15.200 right um yeah i think it would be fine but of course uh maybe there's some internal discussion

06:08:20.880 between the men and women but okay so you would agree though that the woman who wanted to get an

06:08:26.960 abortion for the following two reasons she's not ready to be a mother and she's not financially ready

06:08:33.440 yeah that's very plausible that's good reasons yes okay but so then why are you saying if the if

06:08:40.160 men make this similar argument i'm not financially ready i don't want to be a father why do you then say

06:08:48.880 tough luck you should have kept it in your pants you shouldn't have done that why don't you apply

06:08:53.760 that same uh that that same like what i said that men should be allowed to have an out just like a

06:09:00.960 woman does with an abortion well it's interesting when it comes to women like when it comes to men's

06:09:05.440 responsibility you guys are basically like bronze age pro-lifers you should have kept it in your pants

06:09:12.720 you shouldn't have had sex not you but that's the argument these two are making they're saying

06:09:17.920 they're saying oh well you should have thought of that before you had sex why can't i use that

06:09:22.480 argument for women who want to get abortions but why is it also fair for women who want to keep the

06:09:27.200 child the women could also be financially unstable and why is it her sole responsibility to raise a

06:09:32.880 child because when you go through pregnancy you develop this natural attachment to the children

06:09:37.920 so some women they may feel like it's homicide to um to get an abortion so i think like the men

06:09:46.960 they could simply use as an excuse um attributing it to their financial distress to not pay for child

06:09:52.960 support and i think this will create a lot of legal loopholes for guys to just not take on the

06:09:58.160 responsibility they should and but i think look ultimately i don't know if you're going to share this

06:10:02.720 view uh if from the from the pro-life perspective uh they would consider this murder if you're getting

06:10:09.600 an abortion they consider it murder right so why are women allowed to murder their children but

06:10:16.320 it's not okay for men to abandon their children i mean this is murder and abandonment are two different

06:10:22.800 things like what's worse of course murder is taking away someone's like life when does life

06:10:29.840 begin oh my god i mean that's uh that depends on how it is defined medically uh but i guess

06:10:36.400 life begins when you breathe when i guess when the heartbeat life begins when the heartbeat is detected

06:10:43.600 okay when's that uh i mean i have never gone through a pregnancy but i guess it depends on the

06:10:49.280 trimester you have to ask someone who has been a mom you think life begins when the baby's out no once

06:10:54.880 it's out so you'd be you're you're fine with abortions up until birth no but i thought but if

06:11:01.280 it's not a life why can't you abort the that's not what i mean but that's you said that's when life

06:11:07.840 begins the that literally i think it's at 12 weeks is when the cutoff is but some states have lowered

06:11:14.880 that to six weeks which a lot of women don't even know they're pregnant at six weeks sometimes

06:11:18.560 um obviously in all states it's illegal to get rid of the baby after a certain amount of time because

06:11:25.280 it's like a full formed child and i think that that is accurate i think that should stay a rule you know

06:11:31.200 if it's if you're in your second third trimester and you're trying to get rid of the child that is

06:11:35.200 murder however i also agree with you like if a woman wants to keep it and the man says i'm not ready

06:11:41.200 the man should be able to not be involved in the child's life and should not have to pay child support

06:11:45.520 um but also a woman should be able to get an abortion app before a certain time if they feel

06:11:51.760 the need to but i guess i'm arguing yeah the whole like they're pro-choice but also men should still be

06:11:59.840 responsible that's where i'm i just think it's cruel on the woman to take on the um child care

06:12:05.280 responsibility after the child is born like the men they can probably just come up with excuses of

06:12:10.800 not being financially able to take care of the child but then they will still be able to

06:12:15.360 afford like video games like well uh drinks at the bars wait my issue with that statement is if a

06:12:22.720 man went to the woman right when the baby was detected right like when the woman could still

06:12:27.840 get an abortion and express to the woman i cannot be the father of this child i don't want this child

06:12:34.480 i don't want to be involved and the woman still decides to go through with it she is taking on that

06:12:39.840 responsibility and it should not be put all on the man at that point if the man says i'll do it with

06:12:46.400 you if you do it and then takes that away when the child's like a year old then it makes sense to like

06:12:53.920 go to court and say you need to help me because you said that you would however if he expresses in

06:12:59.200 the beginning i do not want this child then it is then the woman's responsibility to take care of the

06:13:04.880 child if she decides to have it but i do think she should be able to decide to have it or not

06:13:10.080 yeah but also i think like from a morality standpoint it's just really sad to see a man giving up willing

06:13:15.200 to give up on his child not willing to establish any sort of connection but on a legal level if you

06:13:20.880 want women's to have the right to have an abortion you should also allow men to have the right to walk

06:13:25.520 away pasty george thank you george donated two hundred dollars thank you man appreciate it

06:13:31.680 male infant circumcision in north america is done without anesthesia and a clamp tool is used to

06:13:37.600 secure foreskin yeah that's horrible it is done when the baby is awake and aware it is it is a brutal

06:13:45.120 and barbaric practice and so it shouldn't exist anymore i don't like go talk to your local

06:13:51.840 government about that i'm not the one uh moving off of abortion maryn again you said you're a

06:13:58.240 misandrist why how what is misandry can i not answer this again i've answered this like seven times

06:14:06.800 right can like other people speak no um but uh oh okay she she she needs to uh go to a bathroom break

06:14:17.680 here uh here we're gonna get into uh lynn you said that a man dating a transgender woman is straight

06:14:24.240 why is that um yeah because i think uh transgender women psychologically they believe they are women so

06:14:34.560 and uh their id also identifies them as female so of course it's it's not like homosexual

06:14:42.160 for men to date a uh transgender woman wait you said their id says that they're they you think people

06:14:49.920 do you think people can change their sex yeah i think people who have gone through uh transgender

06:14:55.200 surgeries they are able to change their gender on their vacations would you okay um so you i guess you

06:15:04.160 can change i well for the sake of argument i'll just go ahead and grant that you can change your gender

06:15:09.600 but i don't think you can change your sex um but also sex is identity but what's even the difference

06:15:17.120 between like sex and gender i i thought they are interrelated well i think so too yeah and i don't

06:15:23.920 but for the sake of argument there's like gender identity and then there's sex yeah so so sex relates

06:15:31.520 to your biology your chromosomes yeah so if they're transgender that means they have gone through

06:15:37.280 the procedures so biologically not all not all transgender people have their

06:15:41.520 stuff yeah but i would say like in my answer i referred most to people have gone through the procedures

06:15:51.280 so so you don't think uh xx chromosomes matter i mean the thing is a man who has decided to

06:16:02.480 um go through the procedures so that means uh psychologically though a man before they

06:16:09.120 uh go through the procedure they are men and then after the procedure and even actually before they

06:16:14.400 decided to take the procedure they still um they probably like psychologically identify themselves as

06:16:20.960 women already so that's why they decided to go through the procedure and to become a woman legally so i

06:16:28.000 feel like it would be an ordeal to to make them still like men after they have gone through all

06:16:34.560 the procedures to like change their identity to feel more alive for becoming like who they're more

06:16:41.360 affiliated with i still believe that but i do believe if uh a man is attracted to a trans woman i

06:16:47.680 still think that's a little bit you think that's that's homosexual i i i think it has to do with if she

06:16:53.120 passes as in like i've been at a table with a trans woman who i 1000 thought was a real woman like

06:16:58.640 like so many friends like that her work was so good everything was so good and there's straight women

06:17:02.800 that with the bbls and the surgeries look like trans women okay so i i'm i'm not finished so if somebody

06:17:10.640 if a man finds a person identifying as a woman very attractive and wants to date them i don't

06:17:17.200 necessarily think that that makes the man gay until they get deeper into the conversation and

06:17:23.600 if he's turned on by the fact that she still has a dick between her legs and likes to put it and is

06:17:28.880 so excited to put it in her butt then yeah it is kind of like you'd potentially rather be with a man

06:17:33.680 but you're happy because this man is feminine and i think once they're fully transitioned through the

06:17:38.960 surgery then it goes back to if if they really pass inspection and 100 look and feel like a woman

06:17:44.960 then the men who want to say that they're attracted to femininity and wouldn't you rather say that

06:17:52.720 they're attracted to the feminine yeah i would agree with that because you said that they don't care if

06:17:56.560 they see a penis i didn't say they don't care you said if they have a bbl and they get the fake

06:18:03.040 i'm saying there are there are heterosexual women who get surgeries and it actually makes them look more

06:18:08.480 trans so the american beauty standard of what women should look like or what what america finds hot

06:18:14.960 has transitioned into trans being attractive like the woman who was just sitting here had eyebrows

06:18:20.800 that looked like a drag queen like she could have passed as trans i'm sorry it was fake hair fake

06:18:25.760 surgery and her makeup was like a drag queen so i think that there are trans people as a feminine

06:18:32.640 woman you should have had that smoke for her when she was here we weren't taught nobody was talking to

06:18:36.640 her like we were just talking about her i think really depends on the phase of the transition

06:18:40.880 are we talking about wait question so a guy sucking a woman's dick is that women don't have dicks

06:18:49.600 yeah i'm referring to people but but trans can trans women hold on can trans women have penises yes

06:18:58.640 but that makes them gay i'm not i'm agreeing with if a man is attracted to a penis that means that he

06:19:06.000 yeah but also sometimes they're just attracted by the femininity um because if you i know trans

06:19:11.840 women and they tell me they guys love the fact that she has a one she they look for that all i'll say

06:19:19.440 it's gonna be a hard sell a lot of trans women so if i see a guy but that's sucking on a penis yeah but

06:19:26.000 i'm not talking about like a woman who has not finished the transition i'm talking about a woman who

06:19:31.280 looks feminine who dresses feminine who feels is there a penis is there a penis probably probably

06:19:36.720 not so she's that's not yeah that's not pussy probably that question should have been defined

06:19:42.240 more narrowly how do you define transgender all right uh here let me blast through these because

06:19:46.480 i want to try to get this hopefully wrapped up on the sooner side really quick if you guys can be

06:19:51.200 give me quick rapid-fire answers what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future

06:19:55.600 husband i don't care me a lot like probably two three million at least a year a year yeah

06:20:06.240 she's got high standards i guess reach for the stars girl 239 is what's my bugatti so

06:20:12.880 okay uh what about you just similar to my income you said 220 000 plus i told him yeah but it could go

06:20:20.800 lower uh i would just i just don't like to i just don't like any like big discrepancy okay what about

06:20:27.920 you there's a lot of variables it depends on for me uh bare minimum where where do we live you know

06:20:36.400 like southern california okay minimum 500 000 a year 500 000 a year what i mean i i've made 150 000 a year

06:20:48.000 and had nothing left over at the end of it well yeah it's it depends on assets it depends what their

06:20:52.960 other like somebody doesn't have to be high income rich if they have all their assets paid off and

06:21:00.560 like i think there's a lot of variables that go into play well you said you've been single for

06:21:04.400 your entire adult life basically right

06:21:08.800 she's settling for jake gyllenhaal she wants a guy who makes 500 000 minimum 500 000 a year

06:21:15.440 you gotta lower your sorry i didn't want to settle for the you gotta settle the losers i've

06:21:19.360 been proposed to three times i've had people try to you know get me to do green card marriages for

06:21:25.120 money wait you got money doesn't you money doesn't win me over you said you haven't had a relationship

06:21:30.080 your entire adult life how did you get three proposals that were legitimate men fall in love

06:21:34.480 with me it doesn't mean they were my public boyfriend doesn't mean i ever introduced them to

06:21:37.600 my family okay uh what about you minimum yearly income 60k 60k all right she wants five

06:21:45.040 500 000 sure because i said i don't care um obviously just i got enough for them hey she's

06:21:52.720 talking be quiet please go ahead just enough for them to live on their own even if it's a shitty one

06:21:57.680 bedroom apartment even if it's a studio just enough for them to live on their own and then if i have an

06:22:03.040 income we can combine ours that's it how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would

06:22:07.200 date i'm six foot i would date any man six foot or over what about you because i don't want to date

06:22:11.600 someone shorter than me i've dated guys that were five six i've dated i'm five eight okay what about

06:22:16.720 you i'm five four so probably five ten what about you i like tall men but i don't discriminate height

06:22:22.640 my boyfriend was five three okay what about you five seven and five four all right would you rather

06:22:29.040 cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike um usually men who hike are pretty nice so

06:22:38.800 probably i don't care however bears are also awesome to see so i'd say bear okay you did say

06:22:46.080 bear in the questionnaire here what about you i did say bear bear man okay i would freeze if i see a

06:22:52.800 bear what about you man man okay and then for you two why why do you pick bear why don't you pick man

06:23:00.160 um well first i said like most men i don't really hike alone so i don't really care um but i know what

06:23:07.920 what to do if i see a bear brown lay down get on the ground black attack um white say goodnight

06:23:14.960 because you're about to die so i think bears are cool i've seen lots of bears in my hiking adventures

06:23:22.400 and they never bother me however you know on the off chance that a man is hiking that has bad intentions

06:23:31.680 i mean usually the men who hike don't have bad intentions so like i don't really care but bears are

06:23:36.080 awesome so i pick bear when do you think you would have a better chance against a man than a bear

06:23:41.760 um i've never had a bear even like really look me in the eye i've been like right next to them they

06:23:46.160 really don't want to like bother you unless you like try to like attack it they're also like 500

06:23:50.720 pounds and they have really sharp what did you hear what i just said

06:23:55.760 bears don't bother you unless you bother they don't bother you so you know a bear attack before

06:24:00.800 well depends what that person is doing i know i've seen bear attacks where they're like filming

06:24:07.200 the bear and trying to get close to the bear or trying to like touch a cub of the bear and a bear

06:24:12.000 might attack but in a normal basis if you're on a hike and you see a bear like you're probably

06:24:17.600 definitely gonna be fine however men could do other things and you know i'm not saying that every man on

06:24:25.120 a hike is gonna like shoot and kill me or kidnap me however why do you pick bear i could tame a bear

06:24:31.680 okay there's not a component of like men you think men are more dangerous

06:24:36.800 there was a bear in poland that was um in war like they trained a bear to be a soldier so like

06:24:43.920 men are not trainable bears are trainable i'm sorry that is possibly the most retarded thing i've

06:24:49.840 heard on this podcast there was a bear in an in world war ii that you realize that there's like

06:24:55.280 been millions upon millions of male soldiers who yeah but they trained a bear to be a soldier so

06:25:00.320 like that that's freaking cool that was one bear though one bear it was a question she gave you an

06:25:07.440 honest answer she said men are not trainable dubious uh bears are trainable okay

06:25:16.080 i've seen bears where i'd hike i'm not trying to be mean but like some of the things you say are a

06:25:22.080 little a little ridiculous um and maryn is there a thing a component here at least as to you picking

06:25:29.680 the bear like you're like okay well a bear could kill me a man could kill me a man could also like

06:25:34.560 torture me essay this sort of thing well that is true but like i said honestly on a hike like i'm

06:25:40.400 usually not worried about that especially because i don't really hike alone so i don't really care if

06:25:44.080 it's a man or a bear i would say hi to both i guess i'm um but i'd rather see a bear because

06:25:50.720 bears are cool i can ask you a question do you think do you think if women pick bear over man

06:25:57.040 do you think they're sexist no you don't think it's sexist to pick a bear over man you know the

06:26:01.760 whole question is like when i hear the question and i see women answering and saying like definitely

06:26:08.800 the bear they're not talking and they're not thinking about a normal man that you cross on

06:26:15.120 the street like if i saw you while hiking i wouldn't sprint the other way and act dead and

06:26:20.000 be scared however if you're asking if would i rather come across a convicted felon rapist

06:26:28.560 sorry sorry okay um essayist scary man who's killed someone or something or a bear i'd pick

06:26:35.200 the bear and i think a lot of women who hear that question and answer bear are thinking about like

06:26:40.640 would i rather see a bear or an aggressive scary man because not obviously not every man who hikes is

06:26:47.200 gonna be scary however would i rather see a scary aggressive man on a hike or a bear definitely a bear

06:26:54.800 a random man i mean i would still pick bear because i like bears but i wouldn't be scared

06:27:00.960 of a random man on a hike okay so but again the question is though is it sexist for women to pick

06:27:06.640 bear over man let me ask you a question would it be racist to pick let's say uh i guess you're asking

06:27:14.000 you could you'd be asking a white person this uh would you rather come across a bear or a black person

06:27:21.040 bear i like bears you'd you'd rather come across a bear than a while hiking black person is it a

06:27:28.960 woman or a man hold on when you said bear or man i didn't automatically think of a white man i just

06:27:35.760 thought of any man right but so i'm just asking um would okay would you rather come come across a

06:27:44.560 bear or a black person i again i don't care but i like bears i would like to see a bear so bear

06:27:53.920 but like i said i wouldn't see a black woman or man or whatever on the trail and run and scream and

06:28:00.560 hide i would be scared of the white man instead of a black man apparently i'd be scared of the white

06:28:05.120 bear so i'd pick a black man over a white bear well over a white bear yeah well you're right so you

06:28:11.040 have to give a race to the bear if you're going to give a race to the guy i guess look the the

06:28:15.200 reason i asked brown or white bear so my position would be though my position would be we need to

06:28:20.400 if somebody picked bear over black person i think that this would point towards racism but i picked

06:28:26.960 bear over white man also that would also point towards either sexism but i said black person not

06:28:34.560 black man okay well but what gender is the person are you scared of black people oh my god are you

06:28:42.160 actually how did you come to that conclusion um that's no i'm not as in i'm not scared no i'm not

06:28:48.400 scared of black people it's a hypothetical what i'm trying to say is would i be an asian man would

06:28:54.160 i be scared of an asian man why spanish no but what that's a weird analogy well then you would have

06:29:00.720 to say that i grew up in the hood i'm not scared of nobody no one you know no one's trying to hurt

06:29:07.440 you okay what i'm trying to point to is that there seems to be some level of acceptance of women picking

06:29:13.600 bear over man but i think if it was the case that we change the question like i just did uh to say well

06:29:20.560 would you pick a black person over a bear and if people started picking the bear over black people

06:29:25.840 they'd probably point to this being racist and so i then think if that is racist if that is racist

06:29:35.040 then surely it must be sexist to pick bear over man okay what i just said though like in my opinion

06:29:42.400 well yeah you want to hang out with a bear no no no but in my opinion when you ask women man or

06:29:47.760 bear they're not thinking about a normal man on the side of the street they're thinking about

06:29:52.960 the worst case scenario of a man that could hurt them okay sure but like and like the

06:29:59.600 majority of a bear could hurt you but the vast majority of men they're not violent they would

06:30:05.120 never do they would never like victimize you in any way however if you're asking man or bear

06:30:11.040 and you're thinking bear is scary and could kill me but if you want to point towards a man a man could

06:30:16.400 also kill me and if i would rather run across a bear than a murderous scary kidnapper man however

06:30:24.560 i know that a normal man hiking isn't out to get me and i think a lot of women also know that

06:30:30.240 it's just the way the questions phrase make them want to pick bear because they're thinking of the

06:30:34.960 worst type of man got it okay moving things on don't want to linger too long just so we can get things

06:30:39.920 moving uh you you do say here marin women can't be sexist towards men or you agree with the statement

06:30:47.840 rather you agree with the statement that women can't be sexist towards men i view that as the

06:30:52.640 same statement of white people white people or black people can't be racist towards white people

06:30:57.680 systematically i mean it's almost impossible because of the way that the system has been set up so you

06:31:06.720 think racism has to include a component of like systemic power well systemically it's a like a lot

06:31:19.440 it's not really it doesn't really happen i mean i'm sure it happens a tiny bit but like low iq what

06:31:26.720 being racist is low iq no i'm just saying like i don't think

06:31:29.920 system system systemically black people can be racist towards white people i don't think

06:31:36.560 systemically women can be sexist towards men because men have the power and men make the decisions

06:31:42.400 right now so even if even if a woman on the street is sexist towards a man a little bit

06:31:48.400 like it can happen on a tiny level but systemically like no can men experience systemic sexism

06:31:56.800 it would take a lot in modeling it would take a lot i mean i don't see it happening men get sex

06:32:03.440 i mean all the time we already discussed this it just even goes back to circumcision it goes back to

06:32:10.880 forced military conscription it goes back to uh disproportionality men made all those things

06:32:17.520 is it sexist if a man did it to another can you speak into the mic please you're it's come on um

06:32:22.800 i would say the government so the government is a men does not equal government men are not

06:32:33.040 the government the government is a separate entity from men you would agree that there are

06:32:39.760 women in the government though what does that matter who wrote whose signatures are on the

06:32:44.720 independence are there any women tell me how would that matter tell me which men are responsible

06:32:49.840 first off men are not a hive mind uh we were left out of the i'm not explain how i'm benefiting from

06:32:57.520 the system as a man by existing you get so much privilege what privilege do i have being here

06:33:06.080 what do you having you're here too what i women can have the podcast too women have podcasts as a white

06:33:13.600 man what does his race have to do black people have black men have podcasts too

06:33:22.000 and they're really good at it in fact the most popular live streamers in the kai sanat i show speed

06:33:29.760 two very young black men you had the privilege to drop out of college and that is a privilege

06:33:35.760 how is that a privilege to because it meant you saw a life plan for yourself that didn't

06:33:39.920 involve needing an education or needing any kind of certification or how would dropping out of

06:33:44.800 college be evidence of privilege because it means you could afford to drop out do you think wait wait

06:33:50.880 wait so so when men drop out of high school is that privilege high school and college are two totally

06:33:57.680 different things you're saying both education flunking out and dropping out are two different things

06:34:02.160 how would it be privilege to drop out of high school or college i it's almost like a sense of

06:34:09.040 entitlement saying like you know what this was fun but i don't need the education i'm going to go do my

06:34:13.360 own thing over here and figure out how to work the system in my favor and maybe it was your parents

06:34:18.000 that helped you out maybe you're making a lot of assumptions that you have an assumption this entire

06:34:23.520 thing we're assuming we're we're theorizing talking about no not really you are you're making an

06:34:30.480 assumption about my live life to life experiences you're asking what your privilege is and base

06:34:35.280 you've told told us very little about yourself okay one thing you said was you dropped out of

06:34:40.000 college why did you feel why did you not feel the need to finish what if it was the case with the

06:34:45.200 statistics you want an answer sure go ahead yeah what if it was the case that because of my gender

06:34:51.040 i was struggling in college and that's why i dropped out i don't believe you oh she doesn't but

06:34:57.280 that's your experience well just to be clear that's not actually the case but what if it was the case

06:35:02.160 how would that be privilege if i dropped out or what if i dropped out because you didn't feel like

06:35:06.240 people were being nice to you what what if i try being i'm saying i mean like there there's a a

06:35:13.200 number of situations where people are not going to be nice to you it doesn't mean you give up it

06:35:17.280 doesn't mean you check out i can argue with maren who's at least attempting to make logical arguments i'm

06:35:24.160 sorry i can't i just cannot make like i can't argue why did you drop out of college i'm curious

06:35:31.760 because of my male privilege that's why i dropped you you already said that's not because i dropped

06:35:36.800 out because of my male privilege that's why um i'm sorry i'm just not going to entertain this argument

06:35:42.400 with you because it doesn't make it it's incomprehensible so there's a cheat sheet of what

06:35:47.440 your answers are and we're all supposed to go around and guess or explain to you what your privilege

06:35:52.080 is as a white man in this country but yeah tell me the first thing somebody says you're saying no

06:35:56.240 that's not true it's i don't think it's our observation let me ask you this what would be i

06:36:02.000 guess more of a privilege having completed college or having dropped out of college

06:36:09.520 i think both are both are a privilege what would be what would have better life outcomes for the

06:36:16.160 average person dropping out of college or completing college honestly i think dropping

06:36:22.080 out because being uh the the higher education system in america which like i have not paid back

06:36:27.680 my student loans uh my college got shut down by a for-profit corporation who deemed it unprofitable

06:36:34.400 and it had a 70 year reputation as the best art school in the country so tell like logic doesn't

06:36:40.720 always play and it's greed and it's men have the ability to do more okay i'll stop sorry i'm just

06:36:49.520 i mean you're clearly irritated so i'm just not hearing an argument the points to irritate us not

06:36:55.120 to irritate you right i just don't know i personally think it's situational whether you want to stay in

06:37:01.280 college or drop out of college because if you really don't think you're the studying material and

06:37:06.160 you can choose to become like a blue collar worker because he's in real life i'm yeah i'm just saying

06:37:12.320 like not talking about brian specifically but yeah some plumbers and handymen they do make more money

06:37:17.520 but of course if you want to go on to like more complex professions like there are kids who sell

06:37:21.920 sneakers online that make more money yeah then you need to complete the degree so it depends on your

06:37:26.720 personal choice guys what are we talking about right now the keyword is privilege how is it a privilege to

06:37:33.520 drop out of college felicity's right it's it's kind of incoherent so i'm just gonna move it on

06:37:42.480 really quick going back to this you said people of color can't be racist towards white people women

06:37:46.160 can't be sexist towards men are you talking systemically or would you agree on an individual

06:37:50.080 level a black person could be racist towards a white person on an individual level that can happen

06:37:55.040 systemically not really not really let me ask you a question if barack obama when he was president

06:38:00.800 refused to hire a white janitor would that be systemically uh and not just a singular janitor

06:38:08.160 but all the janitors that worked for the white house uh would that be racist i don't think so no

06:38:15.200 so just to be clear at the time he was the most powerful man in the united states the most powerful

06:38:19.920 man in the world he was the leader and the boss and the president of the executive branch of the united

06:38:26.320 states government the executive branch of the united states government being a system so how would

06:38:32.720 it not be systemically sexist if barack obama had like a policy to not hire white janitors if he made

06:38:39.040 that a policy for the entire u.s and said no one's allowed to hire white janitors federal all federal

06:38:47.120 uh institutions could not hire white janitors then yeah that would be i guess racist systemically racist

06:38:54.320 yeah okay except for that didn't happen and that hasn't happened so i'm just testing the logic here

06:39:00.560 women can't be sexist towards men i assume it would be the same thing like if uh kamala harris she won

06:39:05.840 the presidency and she refused to hire male janitors you would have to agree that systemically that this

06:39:10.320 would be sexist towards men i guess for both honestly it depends on i mean if she said no one in the

06:39:17.600 whole u.s is allowed to hire male janitors or whatever then yeah that would be wrong however if she

06:39:23.760 made the executive decision for just the white house only to hire women if she said like that's

06:39:29.680 just my choice then no if she said it's because i hate men then that would be sexist sure moving on

06:39:34.720 you said women or you agree with the statement women are the primary victims of war not men although

06:39:39.600 it seems like you did like kind of a squiggly line so yeah i said i don't really know um i know a lot

06:39:44.960 of women and children suffer at the hands of war when are they the primary victims though i think

06:39:51.440 everyone's a victim no i agree with you that men and women do suffer in war uh and they are victims

06:39:58.320 in war i don't know if they're the primary victims i put a squiggle there because i don't know how to

06:40:03.200 answer that question so maybe move on well i'll just ask one clarifying question but i don't intend

06:40:08.000 to linger too long on this question um knowing that men are just are almost uh the majority of all

06:40:16.240 uh both historical and modern casualties of war so deaths injuries etc like the ones fighting because

06:40:22.320 they're the ones fighting yeah you would have to well i would say men are the primary victims if

06:40:28.400 they're the ones fighting can you tilt your mic down a bit but go ahead if they're the ones fighting

06:40:36.480 can you call them a victim or can you i mean if they were drafted against their will then that's

06:40:42.640 victimization but if they chose to be there and they die in the battlefield or whatever but they

06:40:50.160 chose to be there then they put themselves in that position whereas the women and children who weren't

06:40:57.520 who didn't like even the women who chose to go to war like they are not a victim because they chose to

06:41:01.920 do that but the people like even the men who didn't get drafted or the men who didn't go to war

06:41:08.080 the people the normal civilization of that place are the i would say are the primary victims of war

06:41:16.080 because the soldiers the people that are fighting like i mean if they signed up to be there they knew

06:41:23.280 what they were getting themselves into that's different from the people who got drafted they can

06:41:28.000 still be considered victims however uh well you can think differently that's just my opinion i would

06:41:34.720 agree so here's where i would agree i would say that if you're volunteering to be be a soldier

06:41:42.320 you are assuming some level of risk right yeah there's an assumption of risk however you know

06:41:49.120 if you ultimately end up suffering and dying in said war which you are voluntarily taking on said risk

06:41:58.560 i still think you're a victim um and but that you'd also have to consider that oftentimes in war

06:42:04.720 there are men who are forced through conscription i just said like those people are still but those

06:42:10.720 people who are conscripted are exclusively men so even if i were to grant that okay well of the

06:42:17.440 volunteer force these people aren't victims there are men who are drafted women are not then you would

06:42:23.840 still have to say well at least of the men who are drafted and it's just men almost always those men

06:42:30.080 are the primary victims of war what do you mean by what do you mean by primary though the first like the

06:42:36.240 most victimized i don't know i mean it depends on the other countries war tactics okay let me ask you this

06:42:46.240 i'll give you i guess it depends are they attacking the soldiers or are they bombing cities and towns

06:42:51.680 you know how about this um uh pregnancy when women are pregnant you would agree that they go through

06:42:59.280 there's some deal of suffering like it's uncomfortable uh there's pain there's uh morning sickness it's it's

06:43:06.720 uh there is some degree of suffering as it relates to pregnancy especially the actual giving birth component

06:43:11.920 where there's physical pain yeah uh labor it is a painful experience for women yeah you would agree

06:43:18.320 that as it relates to the suffering that women experience during pregnancy and giving birth they

06:43:23.040 are the primary sufferers of that pain right like for example if i'm if i'm with my wife and she's giving

06:43:30.320 birth and she's holding my hand and she squeeze it really hard during her while she's you know pushing

06:43:37.280 out the baby that hurt my hand really bad but i would never say that well even though i also felt

06:43:43.600 pain when she was giving birth i would never argue that i'm the primary uh i don't know victim isn't

06:43:50.000 i was about to say i don't primary suffer i wouldn't i wouldn't categorize it as victimhood but suffer the

06:43:55.600 degree of suffering i would never say that i'm suffering more and it's also man it's hard to see your wife

06:44:02.480 you know in physical pain and dealing with the pains and discomforts of pregnancy but i would never say

06:44:09.200 that i am the primary sufferer of pregnancy i would say she's the primary sufferer of pregnancy

06:44:17.760 okay so when it comes to warfare there's wives daughters mothers they lose their sons they're going to

06:44:29.520 suffer uh then there's civilians who also are going to suffer but the sheer number as it relates to

06:44:35.840 military casualties most casualties are related uh there are civilian deaths often in conflict

06:44:41.280 but the majority of casualties relate to these soldiers which are predominantly men if that war

06:44:49.280 that you're referencing if a war specifically only causes mass casualties to the soldiers and not to the

06:44:55.760 the people who live in that country then yeah men are the victims in that primary victims okay

06:45:02.160 but if the war affects like in gaza right now the war affected that entire country i would say

06:45:07.600 everyone's a victim not just women not just men i'm not saying that there was a primary victim

06:45:12.560 everyone there has been victimized

06:45:16.560 ukraine also i would say almost everyone has been victimized i know that they're who's victimized more

06:45:20.880 right the men or the women that's hard i don't i'm not fully versed on that but i guess i don't

06:45:30.560 really know are they all drafted in ukraine just the men are drafted and they are they are being

06:45:35.680 drafted they literally abduct men then i would say they abduct the men i would say the men in that

06:45:41.440 situation right now are being primarily victimized to be forced to commit war violence final thing on

06:45:48.640 this then we're moving on to the next topic um and i would just point out at least as it relates to

06:45:53.040 ukraine so all the men and there was a law that was passed between the ages of 18 and 65 it might

06:45:59.440 somebody might be like no it was 60 brian uh between the ages of 18 to 60 or 65 by law martial law

06:46:07.520 were forced to remain in the country women on the other hand could flee so you know that is wrong

06:46:14.560 i think that's wrong but it is the case okay oftentimes in war women are able to escape they're

06:46:21.360 able to flee the country in ukraine's case men are dying in trenches getting ptsd dying by the

06:46:28.320 thousands tens of thousands and women there's a lot of ukrainian women who are clubbing in stockholm

06:46:34.800 they're clubbing in the uk they're clubbing in spain they're clubbing in france they're clubbing in

06:46:38.880 poland they're clubbing they're in miami we had a ukrainian woman on the show a while ago

06:46:44.720 she escaped the war she left and she's she's fucking dudes in the club in miami okay if we're

06:46:50.000 talking about ukrainian war men are the primary victims yeah there you go it's just interesting

06:46:54.800 this conversation we were talking about privilege earlier like we were talking about privilege earlier

06:47:00.960 it's just interesting like there's there's all these conversations of historical men were more

06:47:05.120 privileged blah blah blah yeah i don't know i'm really the only issue with that argument like i

06:47:10.400 understand that it's very it's so horrible that men have to be drafted like that however

06:47:16.960 men did create that specific system so that's the only that doesn't matter but it does majority of men

06:47:23.120 are not a part of the government but it does and have no more say in governments excuse me governance

06:47:29.280 than women okay and what if men made women drafted by the way women i don't think anyone should get

06:47:35.280 drafted why are you acting like i'm pro draft i as a man have no more say in how military conscription

06:47:42.880 selective service is run than does any woman i have no i i have no women are the majority of of voters

06:47:52.400 okay so i could just say women continue to uphold the status quo because women are the majority of

06:47:59.760 voters in this country i did just say it and it's true it's true there are more women who vote than

06:48:07.200 men so talk to the men tell them to vote okay um they could get up and vote and vote for you people

06:48:15.200 too we have a chat here from pasty george pasty george donated two hundred dollars

06:48:20.960 chef or wtf are you talking about if brian had white privilege he would have been in a prestigious

06:48:28.080 private school and had a high-paying position in a company or firm after graduation

06:48:36.000 he didn't actually say white privilege he was just asking what privileges as a man does he have

06:48:41.680 and i'm entitled to believe what i want i think that it's a privilege to have your parents help

06:48:47.280 it's a privilege to not go hungry it's like a privilege to have nice designer clothes like it's a

06:48:52.960 it's a privilege to be american so you were born in america it's a privilege did i get the same one yes

06:49:00.000 right i agree well i believe that when it comes to privilege you have to look at the individual

06:49:04.960 as in who wasted money on you going to college was it you or your parents or did you get a scholarship

06:49:09.920 i mean i went to the city college so it was so it's like a small it's like a small investment

06:49:16.560 not a big loss uh yeah and i'm pretty sure i was working at the time so i think my parents helped

06:49:22.080 out with some of it but i paid for like textbooks and some of the term there you go congratulations

06:49:30.080 people don't have parents to pay for stuff you do not understand people are poor there's okay but you're

06:49:35.120 you guys are trying to do this application of brian you're a white man and you have all this

06:49:39.520 privilege there's a lot of people you asked us but i believe in looking at privilege as the totality

06:49:46.240 of somebody's circumstances so and we don't know the totality of your circumstances well yes i would

06:49:51.440 agree sure i would agree if your parents are doing well and they can assist you with college

06:49:56.240 sure that's a privilege having both parents all of us currently living or well all of us currently being

06:50:03.120 in santa barbara the highest cost living of city in the united states okay be quiet don't okay don't

06:50:09.600 okay hold on yeah we're we're in santa barbara county um being god damn why being born here is one of the

06:50:18.480 most beautiful places totally irrelevant shit that's made it fucking impossible to keep a train of

06:50:23.840 fucking thought like oh i'm sandbar okay so us being here in oh my god bro or we can just move on to

06:50:35.600 the next topic yeah i'm just oh my god bro us being in california makes us all really privileged

06:50:42.400 very true yes correct like we everybody here everybody here we're we're probably like one

06:50:51.440 percenters global one percenters

06:50:56.080 having the time to even be here being able to have this conversation that's a privilege yeah but y'all y'all

06:51:02.320 want to make it like oh men you have like orders of magnitude and leaps and bounds greater privilege

06:51:09.440 than women or what like that's just absurd on its face we're not saying we don't have privilege i

06:51:14.800 didn't hear any of us say that today well i mean going to the next thing men are more privileged in

06:51:20.080 society than women to which marin you agree natalia you agree uh lynn you agree uh kaylin you didn't

06:51:29.520 agree with that but uh explain to me let's start with lynn uh how are men more privileged in society

06:51:36.960 than women did i circle that answer you did but maybe you accidentally circled it i would say it

06:51:43.120 really depends on which aspect but like i said okay i think uh what i was thinking is for a woman that

06:51:49.520 is very ambitious and career driven unfortunately they have to make these trade-offs um in their career

06:51:55.680 when it comes to child caring responsibilities and um and pregnancy for example i personally consider

06:52:01.680 myself very motivated but but i know that at one point in my life i would need to prioritize my

06:52:09.200 family so that means i will have to put my career on hold but men don't necessarily have this problem

06:52:14.960 because they are the main like bread earners so i think in this way men are more more privileged than women

06:52:21.040 because wait can you just repeat that back yeah so um what i was thinking is mainly focused on the

06:52:32.240 career perspective so for women who are very motivated and career driven they have to give up on their

06:52:40.000 promotion opportunities and further advancement opportunities because later on they will need to

06:52:44.880 take on the child caring responsibilities and instead the men they normally take on like less

06:52:50.400 responsible household responsibilities so they don't really have this concern of having like a family

06:52:56.640 will really hurt their career prospect so for example myself i don't have a child right now but that's

06:53:01.760 definitely on my agenda for the future so even though now i'm feeling very molded i want to do well in

06:53:08.240 my career but i know at one point i will need to make this trade-off so i think um from this perspective

06:53:14.960 i think it makes the men like more privileged because they have the freedom to kind of like

06:53:20.240 choose um what they want well my my simple counter argument to be to this would be you mentioned

06:53:27.280 choice men having choice i actually don't think it's the case that men have more choice as it relates to

06:53:32.800 this and this is how as women you can find a guy who's willing to fully provide for you and you can have the

06:53:42.000 choice to stay at home and take care of the kids granted that you find a man who's capable of doing

06:53:49.280 that the vast majority of men don't have this sort of uh benefit or privilege to be able to like go out

06:53:57.040 into the dating marketplace and be like i want to be uh i want to be a stay-at-home dad most women are

06:54:03.600 not going to be okay with that sort of dynamic you yourself would not be okay with that with that sort of

06:54:09.280 dynamic but i'm sure you could find a guy who would be willing to say he's a high earner you

06:54:15.440 could probably find you're an attractive woman you seem well put together i don't doubt that you'd be

06:54:20.000 able to find a man who is a high income earner who would marry you and say you don't have to work if

06:54:26.000 you don't want to you can stay home and take care of the kids i think that's a greater privilege

06:54:31.280 then men who are the vast majority of men are when it comes to relationships will be

06:54:37.760 forced to be providers in some capacity but financial security is not the only thing i'm

06:54:42.400 looking for in the relationship because there are so many other factors that are more important

06:54:46.480 but what i'm saying is i would argue cannot bear the child as a woman like okay maybe some men can

06:54:52.080 afford a surrogate but this is like probably less than 10 percent and most women i cannot speak for

06:54:58.960 every single woman but i would say many women would want to experience like bearing your own child

06:55:04.880 myself yeah i think that's fine yeah but the thing is like nine months pregnancy you're going through

06:55:11.760 these symptoms of feeling like nauseous in the morning like stomach pain and whatever that comes

06:55:17.200 with the pregnancy so of course like you have to make the trade-off you have to make a difficult

06:55:21.440 decision between your career your personal development and your family so are you saying

06:55:27.520 oh go ahead are you saying that kids are a burden then i'm not saying you have to pick between

06:55:32.720 your career i never said kids are burden but i'm just saying like it's it's worth it to choose um

06:55:39.840 children and family than your career but unfortunately this is a reality that if you're a career driven

06:55:45.040 woman if you're motivated you have to make a face the difficult decision you want to weigh in okay do you

06:55:51.280 prefer keeping pursuing your career or do you prefer having a stable family with children

06:55:58.720 i mean as a woman nothing obligates you to having children if you prioritize your career you can go

06:56:06.480 ahead and not get married not have kids and just focus on your career so if you want to do career fine

06:56:12.640 yeah but then the thing is that's also a personal choice as a woman i would still because me personally

06:56:20.240 i think i'm very family oriented um i think i would not um prioritize my career over the possibility of

06:56:29.520 not having children for the rest of my life when i when i'm with the right person but i do think women

06:56:36.320 have more options in this regard you can have a career uh i i agree that there could be some

06:56:42.720 detriments like you get pregnant that might have an impact on your career but are you going to say

06:56:47.680 once you have children you're just you won't be able to be a lawyer no there's plenty of female

06:56:52.560 attorneys who have children and while it might be a bit of a setback in the same way if you had like

06:56:58.400 a catastrophic injury and you had to take time off of work that would be a setback to your career too

06:57:04.720 both men and women could be subject to that uh you you can still even if you do choose to have kids

06:57:11.200 i'm sure you can continue being a lawyer if that's what you want to do i agree you'll have to take time

06:57:17.280 off and that could have negative consequences but i don't think you're going to be like

06:57:21.680 okay i'm a lawyer but i want to have kids if i have kids i'm going to be destitute in the street

06:57:27.120 and broken homeless i don't think that i think that's not never my point i think that's way too extreme

06:57:33.120 but what i'm saying and also i'm not saying that i'm going to take a huge step back in my career

06:57:37.920 but the thing is um pregnancy of course after pregnancy you still have the child care responsibility

06:57:44.960 because you're responsible responsible for this child not just the first year but probably the

06:57:50.240 first like 15 and 18 years so you want to make sure that this kid grows up in like a healthy environment

06:57:57.200 um so who's going to pay attention to this kid of course the mom probably will likely pay more

06:58:02.960 attention so i'm just relating i can just relate an example from my co-worker before she had her

06:58:09.600 first kid she was telling me i'm gonna focus really hard on getting promoted i'm gonna get all the

06:58:14.560 bonuses and her mentality just changed after she had her first child she's like i just miss my child so

06:58:20.400 much all i want to do is just to go home from right after my office um my office business hours are over

06:58:30.000 what was the question uh we were talking about uh let's see oh uh men are more privileged in society

06:58:40.000 than women and she was saying that uh how are men more privileged in society than women natalia

06:58:46.800 i don't want to comment maren want to give a comment um i would just say because a mass majority of um

06:58:58.880 the system the government different companies are ruled by men men just automatically have a little bit more privilege

06:59:06.560 however in today's world it's getting better and that's all i'll say

06:59:10.240 pasty george pasty george donated two hundred dollars there are two jumps in and rants about

06:59:18.320 topics that have nothing to do with the subject being discussed it's like watching an old person

06:59:23.920 with dementia rant crazily we understand your frustration brian lol oh pasty thank you for that

06:59:30.960 man appreciate appreciate it um we're not going to be able to do everything on this questionnaire so i'll

06:59:35.520 pick like maybe two or three more then we'll get this wrapped up uh guys i'm going to lower the tts

06:59:40.800 to 69 69 tts if you want to get a roast in 69 tts a woman's past should not matter maren you agree with

06:59:49.120 that statement natalia you may you agree lynn you agree kaylyn you agree uh typically this is in context of

06:59:55.840 body count um why should a woman's past not matter as it relates to dating why because why would it matter

07:00:04.000 we live in the present yeah a woman's past doesn't define who you are right now just like a man's

07:00:10.000 doesn't okay you agree do you agree with that or i agree okay let me ask i i want to start with lynn

07:00:15.520 here then i'll ask the rest of you this uh would you date a a guy who previously had sex with men

07:00:22.320 um maybe it would make me uncomfortable but i don't think that's a deal breaker but it would make

07:00:28.080 you uncomfortable yeah right is he being forthcoming with the information like it like is he up front in

07:00:34.480 the date being like i used to be with men um i sure i guess i just want to make sure he doesn't go with

07:00:41.760 other men after dating me while dating me uh well let's say he's bisexual i personally genuinely would

07:00:48.880 not care at all okay that's fine yeah i don't care uh you said it makes you uncomfortable yeah but the

07:00:54.000 thing is uh as long as he's forthcoming um and also as long like i said as long as he's loyal and

07:01:01.760 he just doesn't go sleep with another man while dating me otherwise that would be a big issue okay

07:01:06.560 but so to be clear you would be okay dating a man who's bisexual yeah let me ask you this would you be

07:01:12.480 okay dating a man who a week prior had uh receptive anal sex uh would that be a problem yeah so he told

07:01:21.920 you last week it was just a fling but now i'm and he's gonna be loyal right he said i was effed in

07:01:29.520 the in the butt by a dude g-spot dog doggy style you wouldn't be like hold on hold on what the

07:01:37.840 fuck i will probably give him like a big lol but uh but like why does it matter yeah what happened

07:01:47.360 is i would ask about the size and try to provide a uh brian question would it be different if you

07:01:54.080 were saying he liked to put toys up his butt well that's up to you that's a good question does it

07:01:59.920 make him gay if he likes toys in his butt uh i don't i'm not i don't think that would technically make

07:02:08.720 him gay because like a man could engage only in heterosexual sex but i suppose enjoy uh anal play

07:02:18.560 i guess right but that how does that pertain she's just asking how what as in what makes you all over

07:02:27.760 the place as in if if a guy's too embarrassed to go into a sex store but meets a guy at the gym that

07:02:33.440 wants to fuck him in the sauna he might want to see what it feels like and i don't think that makes

07:02:40.160 you know what i mean watch you guys don't know about the saunas down the saunas at men's gyms

07:02:46.400 because guys are fucking in the saunas all the time and there are straight men

07:02:49.840 in those saunas all the time just because it's it don't drop the soap i don't want to go to the gym

07:02:56.000 anymore oh in prison yeah that's crazy in america in here in equinox in new york city

07:03:02.160 in west hollywood fucking in the equinox you guys shut down the sauna crunch gym on sunset

07:03:09.680 what about soul cycle that's the part i've never been if a man had a body count of 100 would that

07:03:18.080 matter to you guys would you if a man had a body count of 100 yes would that matter to you i would

07:03:23.440 be like that's very low honey you should step up what about what about yeah i wouldn't care better

07:03:28.720 than being sexually inexperienced um honestly man or women i think a hundred's a bit high but go you

07:03:35.440 um i don't know if i'd care as long as he's all checked out and i don't think that are forthcoming

07:03:40.560 or honest with the information so i don't think we ever have an accurate understanding of how many

07:03:44.400 people someone has slept with before we sleep with them yeah but also like who really discusses

07:03:49.040 the body would i would yeah first question on the date what's your body count your first question

07:03:56.160 on the day actually my first question is if they have um i only date women with large with large

07:04:01.600 ladies so um like an audi like an audi how do you know if she has a big he asked that's the first

07:04:10.880 question he asked on a date first question but are you circumcised or no that's my what's your body

07:04:16.080 count how big is your labia and you know what if you meet a girl who wants to answer both those

07:04:22.080 questions then like i think you're meant to be how long do you want a woman to hold out with sex before

07:04:26.400 she sleeps with you like how many dates will you take a woman on and pay for them before you expect

07:04:30.720 her to put out um he's like half yeah he's like please don't back with you kidding i mean i don't

07:04:38.480 have any qualms with uh like sleeping with somebody relatively quickly so it could be first second

07:04:44.000 third date most of my relationships uh it was relatively quickly so you're easy but you want

07:04:50.720 a woman with a low body count i don't see how these two are necessarily contradictory you buy a woman

07:04:57.680 dinner a couple times you would agree you wait can i ask one sec you would agree with me though

07:05:02.720 that a woman who slept with a thousand men could meet me and be like 100 to a thousand

07:05:08.800 what bro can you not interrupt like you interrupt with the most like at least if you're going to

07:05:13.600 interrupt like make a good point make a fucking incoherent fucking rambling it's totally incoherent

07:05:23.520 has nothing to do with the point i'm about to make oh my god so you would agree that a woman who

07:05:30.000 slept with a thousand men and slept with them instantly she could meet me and be like i want

07:05:35.040 to wait until marriage right and you would agree that i could meet a virgin and she could want to

07:05:39.760 sleep with me immediately like it's logically possible yes okay so i don't what is your argument then

07:05:47.440 oh i asked you a question that doesn't really okay what's your question you answered it you said

07:05:53.920 a couple times you like when women sleep with you relatively quickly there's probably a is there not

07:05:58.800 a correlation then between why you don't have a ring on your finger like do you think you need to get

07:06:02.720 to know somebody a little bit better before you ask about their labia size i would be so offended if

07:06:06.960 i went on a first date and the first question was what's your body and what you seem like you would

07:06:11.680 probably be a size queen like you care about the guy's penis size right like would there be let me

07:06:17.120 if he's not packing you're you're gonna have a second date with the guy i don't ask about it till

07:06:20.800 i'm like ready to get intimate with somebody like i'm not gonna sit at a table i'll be like do you

07:06:25.200 have a big dick okay you'll fuck him and then if he doesn't have a big dick you'll never talk to him

07:06:30.000 again your your solution to the problem sounds way better you you misunderstood wait can i ask a

07:06:35.520 question go ahead what like what's a body count that you would say is too high for a woman that you're

07:06:40.720 dating like if a woman said my body count is xyz like what's a number that's like you're like

07:06:45.520 that's pushing it sure i i suppose it would depend on her age like if she's a bit if she's a younger

07:06:50.160 woman say she's 25 25 versus if she's like 35 there might be like leeway if she's a bit older okay 25 to

07:06:57.280 35 what's like the yeah i'd say so i'd say um well okay the ideal is the lowest possible in terms of

07:07:04.960 but you're asking like what's high just like if you asked a woman on a date what's your body count

07:07:09.840 what's like the highest you would allow her to go before you'd say i can't fuck you anymore

07:07:14.320 can't um i mean again i have a strong preference for the lowest body count possible but like

07:07:22.240 uh probably the chat's going to disagree with me but like over 20 okay over 20 i'm starting to think

07:07:29.040 like that's a respectable number yeah but like again like i'd prefer it to be under 10 wouldn't

07:07:36.320 everyone wouldn't everybody we have pasty george here with his god pasty george donated 70 dollars

07:07:46.000 shares one two three and four oh you are all disgusting degenerate feminists wow it's because

07:07:53.440 women like you who are allowed to vote that everything is so messed up nowadays the future

07:07:58.880 is cooked guys 69 69 69 tts pasty george the reason that we're cooked is because you've spent like

07:08:06.240 over a thousand dollars just trying to get his attention by sending weird mean he's not trying

07:08:10.960 to get my attention he's criticizing your guys's world view and he's made some good points

07:08:16.960 okay doesn't affect us personally i respect his opinion lynn was based she was based at the

07:08:24.720 beginning at least i know he's not the person uh i'm ever gonna go on a date with um okay uh wait

07:08:32.320 where were we oh the a woman's passion okay should body count matter no no no no not really uh what's

07:08:41.280 your body count i don't have infinity holy shit well you're you're in the you're in the industry

07:08:47.360 i'm over a thousand for sure you're in the industry right yeah um what i had like 20 in a night

07:08:54.720 i used to do uh gangbang parties back in the day i had a guy let's do some

07:09:00.640 okay that's a lot of i mean i guess i was about to say that's a lot of information to give online but

07:09:05.840 you do it online anyway so good for you on my oh you just did that for fun yeah okay i'm a real

07:09:13.600 slut so um you want to give a range of the body count like you think i don't know over a thousand

07:09:23.440 yeah around there yeah um i stopped counting in high school i don't know what when did you what

07:09:29.040 number did you stop wait you stopped you stopped counting in high school what number

07:09:34.480 medial counting something wait wait what number did you stop counting at oh my god i don't know

07:09:39.360 like five i don't find that like i don't find what was your body count by the end of high school um

07:09:48.400 like eight and then you stopped counting in high school too what was the body count at the end of

07:09:53.680 high school you only had sex one probably around ten ten but i mean my question is i the reason i

07:10:02.480 stopped counting is because do you only count the guys you want to remember do you count do you count

07:10:07.360 the the essays do you count no you don't you don't count right so if those people don't count your body

07:10:13.040 count then you're allowed to remove the assholes no like not give people that you want to remember

07:10:17.760 you count the consensual like i'll go months i don't care if the guy was a dick you can't have no

07:10:22.000 issues with it i don't need to have sex all the time but when i meet somebody that i might want to

07:10:26.960 have sex with go for it i i don't need to keep a notebook and tally everybody's like freaking

07:10:32.560 numbers that's my what uh range body count what do you think your body count is i would definitely

07:10:38.320 say over 100 over 200 maybe i don't know i stopped counting but you think it might be no i've had less

07:10:44.640 sex between 25 and 35 than i have between 15 and 25 good times i've been a lot more body count like

07:10:53.280 i think it's reasonable i mean within your range i mean i mean because i was in a long-term relationship

07:10:59.680 so i was completely loyal what what is it um i think i have the right to not disclose the number but i'm

07:11:07.520 saying like um brian would think i'm fine to date based on his standards that's a good answer 19.

07:11:16.000 um whatever you think okay uh uh so that's lynn's answer what about you maren i'll say the same thing

07:11:24.800 i mean less than these two lovely ladies right here but um yeah you would think i'm fine to date but that

07:11:33.040 doesn't mean i'm at 20 that just means that you'd be fine with it i could be between one and 20.

07:11:39.520 do you want to give a range so um no i do not what about you one okay two

07:11:47.040 okay there it is there you have it folks a woman's passion matter body count should matter

07:11:54.640 some of you are a little hesitant to share the body count if it doesn't matter i feel like you'd be

07:11:58.320 more a little more forthcoming with sharing the body count but i just really didn't don't count

07:12:03.440 i literally have had experiences i forget about and then i'll see something and it'll remind me

07:12:07.600 and i'll be like oh yeah i did do that that time like i mean life is so full we do so many things

07:12:12.400 like hey look how can you remember every night i get it um brian gets it i i get it you know some

07:12:19.600 guys are forgettable like really lackluster in the bedroom i'm a virgin then what the okay uh all right

07:12:28.240 guys get them in 69 tts row session get them in here guys get them in if you want to get a message

07:12:32.800 ctx are donated 69 dollars chair one is fundamentally dishonest if you want to see proof you deflect watch

07:12:40.880 this podcast from the start andrew wouldn't make you cry cause he rage baits it's cause he'd destroy

07:12:47.600 your world view would you come back on the show definitely not thank you though with andrew

07:12:55.600 a one thousand percent zero percent chance it wasn't that bad i really thought this would be

07:13:01.920 like a two-hour ordeal and i've been here for six hours eight and a half oh yeah in the in that case

07:13:09.280 um yeah i would very much i'm tired and i'd very much like to leave we're gonna wrap soon um that

07:13:16.240 hurts though i thought we i thought this you know this has been an experience for sure are you my

07:13:20.880 caucasian i don't know what that means are you my caucasian what does that mean are you my caucasian

07:13:27.120 i don't know what that means well let me ask a establishing question are you are you white yeah

07:13:33.280 i'm white so are you my caucasian i'm not yours but i don't know what i don't know what you mean

07:13:40.160 by that okay i'll explain it like rephrase i i can't believe i got to explain this but let me

07:13:45.760 i've never heard that be asked i'm gonna put you on some game so you know how you know how um black

07:13:52.960 people will say are you my i can't say it are you my n-word oh like are we friends no one ever said

07:14:00.160 that by the way first are you my are you my are you my caucasian are you are you my caucasian i know

07:14:10.800 we disagreed on the whole bunch but i think it's been mostly polite i'm okay with you i don't want

07:14:16.400 to come back what up my cracker andrew missed his chance mr g andrew you shouldn't call in today

07:14:23.280 um all right i don't want to debate andrew i'd get too upset and i know that the internet loves to

07:14:28.240 see me upset okay so a couple more things we're you know what we're going to do uh let's see oh wait

07:14:35.280 what was the thing oh gotta play the bow video we always play the bow video so i have a video i took

07:14:40.640 of my ex-girlfriend uh consensually what what video the fuck okay yes go ahead and play the uh the bow

07:14:51.200 video uh hide that before you start it so this is my ex-girlfriend um okay and this is my expectations

07:15:00.720 before you play this is what i expect from a girlfriend uh-oh i expect her to bow go ahead

07:15:08.720 boom do you hit did you see the bow in japan people all the time wait no play it play keep it what the

07:15:14.720 the play that we'll play it back later um okay and you know look i she had to do my laundry super

07:15:22.480 quick i this was after a long podcast shoot and um look at this so obviously rage bait hold on

07:15:29.920 look she's got my beer she's got my beer ready um she's got my dinner ready well if this pleases her

07:15:35.920 then good for her how long i'm happy how much look at that look at her stirring the noodles i'm

07:15:41.120 happy that you found this and that she's play it again oh my god i can't believe this boom do you

07:15:47.760 look at the fucking bow do you see do you see the bad that's normal how much do you pay the higher

07:15:54.720 if she's happy doing that for you and that is what you want then wonderful she proposed it

07:16:00.080 i was like i was like babe so who cares you don't have to do and she's like no i want to do this well

07:16:07.120 i'm happy that you got that she forced me to watch her bow she forced me i was

07:16:17.520 it was again she bowed against my consent she was like you know what fuck you brian i'm about anyways

07:16:23.040 you don't want this i'm about and then she kind of i got on her page i was like you know what i kind

07:16:27.840 of like this shit well if she likes it then that's the question now is the question now is 69 tts guys

07:16:33.840 get them in would for the perfect man for the perfect man would you bow for him not if he asked me to but

07:16:44.080 if i felt like it if i if my perfect man would never make me do that however if i just wanted to

07:16:52.080 sure like i love my boyfriend that i have right now so much like i said i make him food all the time

07:16:56.480 even though he says he'll make it himself i enjoy doing things for him he would never say like bow

07:17:01.600 for me what if the framing is this there's a magic genie and he says i will give you the perfect man

07:17:06.720 so the perfect man isn't asking for it but it is a condition of the genie granting you this wish of

07:17:11.840 getting the perfect man that in order to get the perfect man every single day or when you meet him

07:17:17.200 anyways if you're not seeing him every day whatever you have to hit the bow under those circumstances

07:17:21.600 would you do it so it's an external third party it's not an expectation of the man but you have to do it to get

07:17:25.760 him well he wouldn't be my perfect man if i had to bow so no but but it's not because of him it's

07:17:31.840 because of the genie would you do it um if a genie said i could only keep the boyfriend i have right

07:17:37.440 now if i bowed every day sure oh you okay so you would do it i mean i love my boyfriend i don't think

07:17:43.760 he would find it i don't think he'd force me to do that and if he wasn't forcing me to do it and i was

07:17:48.240 just gonna do it then i wouldn't care okay what about you would you do the bow for the perfect man

07:17:52.560 no but i've uh i've washed my man you've washed like from top to bottom like i physically like

07:18:00.960 i bathed him and like in the shower and i do appreciate the man's body i washed his feet

07:18:05.840 i washed everything so i do feel like i could be submissive and i could bow down to him in that

07:18:10.480 situation and but not not like that never okay what about you would you for the perfect man yeah for the

07:18:17.680 perfect man i probably would if that makes me and him happy but i just don't think bowing to

07:18:22.720 someone is a perfect way of showing affection i'd rather just kiss him i agree even give him a shoulder

07:18:27.040 rub when he comes back from a long time well that's a given of course you have to do the bow and do

07:18:32.640 shoulder rubs yeah i can do i can bow in like a playful way uh but that doesn't mean like innately

07:18:38.480 i'm inferior to him it's just doing it out of affection yeah exactly no wait is he gonna bow to me at all

07:18:43.920 no nope one way would you bow for the for the perfect man if a genie asked me to i would what

07:18:51.520 if the man asked you to i didn't think that wasn't the question it wouldn't be the perfect man

07:18:55.920 well you said yes you would do it for the genie now i'm okay does the bow include everything we

07:19:00.160 saw in the video like no just the bow oh that's it yeah okay bow for the perfect man so i am dating

07:19:06.560 the perfect man and i do bow for him because you watch the show right yeah the bow was from the

07:19:13.120 show you learned the bow and he appreciates the bow yes he does okay look i'm just saying i'm

07:19:17.920 putting you girls i'm putting you ladies on some game here try the bow you know you might hate it

07:19:23.360 but if it gets you the guy i think my boyfriend would laugh in my i think the man you love that

07:19:27.680 the man will be like what the heck i also think i also think on the first date if the woman comes

07:19:32.560 over she should do your laundry never no i'm never touching anything are you a man that's such a good

07:19:39.200 joke that's hilarious a joke oh hold on he should do my laundry no on the first date you bring the

07:19:46.480 girl over how about this am i your servants are we still in college she folds the laundry like this

07:19:52.000 is a young a young question maybe the man is completely capable of doing it himself but he wants the

07:19:58.400 woman to do it first day no big red flag that first date is crazy would you do it no it's not

07:20:05.760 even exclusive on the third date what the fuck yeah if okay if i decide to do my boyfriend's laundry

07:20:13.520 he'll say oh my gosh thank you i could have done it myself but thank you so much and i'm fine doing

07:20:17.440 that he would appreciate no i do it i do it sometimes i'll fold his laundry or sometimes i'll put it away

07:20:21.520 however if he said do my laundry i'd be like you're fucking full of shit no you don't say it like that

07:20:26.560 here's how you do it she comes over on the first date you you take her hand you hold her hand

07:20:31.520 romantically and you guide her to the laundry basket you walk her you walk her to the laundry room now

07:20:36.960 i'm a gentleman right in the closet walk you to the atm machine so she doesn't have to do she doesn't

07:20:42.800 have to do everything it's already in the dryer she just has to fold it i walk her in i give her

07:20:50.640 a kiss on the cheek and you say can you please no i don't say anything i just i look at her

07:20:56.320 here i'll put it on i look at her pretend this is the laundry basket oh wait can they see it in the

07:21:02.080 frame all right i look at her i look at the laundry basket i look back up at her look at the laundry

07:21:10.640 basket look at her and then without saying anything you just walk away i turn and i walk out of the

07:21:17.200 laundry room i think i just follow you out just she just kind of knows then that's your perfect woman

07:21:23.120 she just knows to do it you know you know what if you want that if that's your provocative and

07:21:27.200 that woman wants to do it then good on you both don't you think that's the least you could do with

07:21:32.960 they pay for a very expensive dinner i don't i don't make them pay and you and they ask you to fold

07:21:50.160 your their laundry i don't make them pay oh he has a maid official not like my man is rich

07:21:56.960 he hangs his clothes we don't fold clothes we hang clothes yeah it doesn't matter do your laundry you

07:22:03.200 know like i go to the dry cleaners i just drop it off if i become a stay-at-home wife and my husband

07:22:08.720 goes to work all day long i'll be happy to do his laundry for him in that scenario however if we're

07:22:14.320 a boyfriend girlfriend and we're just in a normal relationship and we both have stuff going on

07:22:18.160 he's a grown man he can do his own laundry so you have to be married to provide no it depends on the

07:22:24.160 whole situation if i'm a working woman and i go to work the same amount that my husband goes to work

07:22:29.440 then he can also do his own laundry however if my husband works so much that i can become a stay-at-home

07:22:35.360 wife or whatever i'll totally do the laundry i'll totally cook i'll totally clean whatever however

07:22:41.280 that's not the story for everyone so i don't think you should say that's the least i can do without

07:22:45.920 like knowing the whole story i mean he paid for your dinner but i literally just told you that i

07:22:50.560 don't know you say you don't make him but like let's say he does he offers he said earlier that

07:22:55.920 if like if he's clearly insistent on paying you said that yeah he'll pay for my dinner

07:23:01.440 um

07:23:01.920 you don't think that's the least that wasn't me and also why do you have to do long drawing on

07:23:07.760 first date that's just weird wait have you ever had a one night stand uh yes well what's interesting

07:23:16.240 to me though is this so you guys complain about the bowel complain about the laundry

07:23:24.000 the same women who will suck a dude's dick on the first date you won't you won't do his laundry

07:23:30.800 i get pleasure and also pleasing the man in that way sure but wouldn't but you would be pleasing the

07:23:38.080 man by doing his laundry so wouldn't that same sort of thing apply no because i'm not getting any

07:23:43.840 satisfaction out of doing the laundry i'm getting satisfaction okay how about this women be women

07:23:48.480 will you will literally let a man inside of you on the first date okay some people might say that's

07:23:57.680 weird it is i'm just saying it seems like the bow or the laundry is less than

07:24:06.640 letting a man insert his penis inside of you at risk of you potentially getting pregnant you let

07:24:11.520 maybe you let him black maybe you're on birth control you're gonna let him blast inside of

07:24:14.880 you you're gonna let him come inside of you you're gonna let him but maybe blast on your face i don't

07:24:18.560 know i'm just saying i'm just saying you guys gotta think about these things she likes it i think

07:24:24.080 i don't think we should be doing like stuff like that with like doing laundry for each other on the

07:24:29.440 first date that's weird like i'm not going to your house first of all i don't know you you've been

07:24:35.280 yeah also the men are supposed to give undivided attention to the women and so do women on the

07:24:40.080 first date then why would the men be so bothered by the laundry you can just do it the next day when

07:24:45.280 the after the women leaves the date yeah but it's like if she can save me five or ten minutes like

07:24:50.960 just have her like yeah why is the guy so what would you be doing in the meantime while she's

07:24:55.600 doing laundry just watching yeah just watch oh i'd just go on my computer and like watch um

07:25:00.240 watch like uh you know okay i if the woman wants to do your laundry and you want to watch tv and she's

07:25:06.480 fine with that then like i said that's totally fine i am not the one that's her provocative yeah good for

07:25:12.080 that girl for wanting to do that w to all the women out there who will do who will do the bow

07:25:19.200 and who will fold your laundry on the first date and they'll love they will love it good for them

07:25:24.800 good for i i wish you luck now the reason i bring this up though is interesting to me i would for me

07:25:30.880 to get the perfect woman i would even i would never bow to a woman but for the perfect woman i'll hit a

07:25:38.240 bow i'll bow for the perfect you gotta realize when we're talking perfect here i'm thinking like

07:25:42.880 okay she's a trillionaire and she's hot and she's that scenario hell yeah all these things i'm like

07:25:50.480 yeah but when i when i'm talking fuck i think maybe it's unfair to include like she's okay the perfect

07:25:56.320 man or perfect perfect woman is a trillionaire maybe that's unfair but like perfect in every regard

07:26:01.840 except like okay they're not they're not fucking obscenely with them yeah like looks personality

07:26:08.960 perfect there's a lot of things i would compromise on for the perfect women woman i literally will

07:26:15.200 break up with you if you're snoring if you snore at night that's a that's a deal breaker i cannot

07:26:20.480 i find it very hard i feel like there's a lot of my boyfriend i feel like there's a lot of women

07:26:26.640 there's plenty of men like there's a lot of women who they wouldn't make certain compromises for the

07:26:32.320 perfect guy and i think it's kind of just interesting um and the bell what was there was something else

07:26:40.080 oh we do a segment on the show right before we wrap where's the let's get to it all right

07:26:48.000 uh you guys have to remove you don't watch oh my gosh you can remove your makeup if you'd like

07:26:53.520 i'm okay i'm good on that you do you want to remove your sure i look the same without makeup

07:27:01.280 okay no get the honest ones do it yeah do it oh my goodness they're they're good they're all

07:27:07.520 good thanks for looking out for a sister oh wow uh those have more chemicals we we worry about chemicals

07:27:13.600 honestly i drink usually out of a glass bottle only i think women should also should i do just half my

07:27:20.240 face yeah oh yeah that's a good idea do half just half yeah just half i like that idea

07:27:25.040 maren here she's she's sharp she had a good idea there that was good uh i also think women should

07:27:29.760 churn butter on a first date too like if she doesn't you're funny guys if she won't churn butter

07:27:38.640 find one that will if if she won't yeah keep searching forever if she won't if he doesn't send

07:27:44.960 you a thousand dollars to your bank account at the first date don't don't don't go out with him

07:27:49.440 at all don't date him we got to do the whole face i don't know should we felicity you're going to do

07:27:53.920 this or what if he doesn't pay you're gonna do it you're gonna do it you're gonna do it i'm on the

07:27:57.280 fence i'm gonna do it come on she's not felicity yeah we got things to do we got people to see we

07:28:05.040 have friends here oh yeah we're we're just about to wrap i'm telling you this and i have my eye bags

07:28:10.880 are serving what's that mary oh we got hey we got some reacts actually we do it next time

07:28:18.000 gender swap we're not gonna do the reacts we're gonna do those next time oh we didn't even did

07:28:22.160 we do the gender swap mary i'll show you a picture of me wait can we do the gender that'd be hilarious

07:28:27.600 i look like my brother i've done these pictures already okay i look like my dad it's weird i will

07:28:32.960 look pretty i do not want to look like my father do you want to take all of it off okay sure yeah just

07:28:39.360 take it i have to do it he's not a good looking man my dad is shorter than my mom like it was just

07:28:45.360 not i can take off the face she's gorgeous too yeah because i gotta wash my face at home so anyways

07:28:55.200 saves me time by doing it you just see a little more acne i think my eye looks a little bigger on

07:28:59.840 this side so pull eyeliner some mascara here's what we're doing the tts we're going to do 30 tts 29.99

07:29:05.680 dollar tts we're going to do the roast session then we're wrapping wrapping the show we always end

07:29:10.240 with a roast session so if you want guys get it in 30 tts for a little roast you guys need to

07:29:17.440 roast keep it half and half yes wait let's look look into this camera right here so that's half and

07:29:24.000 half now do you want to just go she looks the same uh you can't tell you can just see more acne i'm like

07:29:29.520 which side is the one that you took off yeah i can't tell i just have like you can see my zits

07:29:33.840 right here everyone has acne guys normalize it acne is very normal we should not shame

07:29:41.520 the acne enjoyers or pavers i guess uh okay acne enjoyers yeah i really enjoy my acne i like popping

07:29:49.840 pimples same it's addictive me too if a man let me pop his pimples um that's that's my ex did not let

07:29:59.760 me do it i was like what is wrong you pick on you guys stop it's gross all right guys 30 hold on 30

07:30:09.040 dollar tts let me get that all set up uh the girls are working on their makeup if you want get a roast

07:30:14.960 in get a roast in here uh oh here i'm gonna let some come through these are these are at 60.

07:30:21.200 vector donated seventy dollars and 68 cents chair one i get it life is unfair we don't always get what

07:30:29.360 we want i want you to shut up but you won't because life is unfair you're out here trauma dumping

07:30:36.080 masquerading as intellectually sound when did i trauma dump you did not say i literally said absolutely

07:30:41.600 nothing personal vector thank you vector for the message george donated seventy dollars chair one

07:30:49.840 you chose not to return because your incorrect world view was challenged and questioned so you

07:30:55.280 went to the washroom to cry because you are not used to that calm down woman um i did go to the

07:31:02.320 bathroom to take a break because i thought i was going to be here for two hours and it's been what

07:31:06.560 eight whatever my stomach hurts i have to drive home tonight pasty george donated seventy dollars

07:31:13.360 thank you pasty don't women expect or like it when men bow on one knee when proposing opening doors for

07:31:19.120 them yes yes yes protecting or standing up for them what's wrong with a respectful bow we all ended up

07:31:26.400 answering yes i do have a yes you want to know if women would propose to their significant other

07:31:32.000 no i think he's saying that like a lot like for example do you want to get you don't want to get

07:31:35.600 married one day yeah i'm already married she's been oh she's would you want a guy to buy you a ring

07:31:42.960 to buy me a ring yes of course and would you want him to get down on one knee yes

07:31:49.680 and propose to you yeah i don't know that's i feel like kneeling and getting that's kind of worse than a

07:31:57.520 bow but that's the tradition i mean it has been a tradition since maybe a hundred years ago so

07:32:03.760 what's the problem like well i would find it super weird if he doesn't want to keep the tradition going

07:32:08.800 you know what if my boyfriend didn't get on one knee and just proposed to me standing up i don't

07:32:13.600 think i'd care very much like he just took the ring box and just like chucked it at you well that's

07:32:17.920 a little disrespectful there you go maryn are you gonna marry me or not well i don't think he'd ever

07:32:23.360 ask like that but what and i don't need it to be a big ring either i really don't care a lab ring

07:32:28.800 i don't care what if like he took you out to a nice dinner and he didn't like get on his thing

07:32:33.280 he just sat across from you i'd literally honestly be fine with that wait what people put in food

07:32:41.360 right wait mary do you notice when you're scene switching it are you touching wait can you test

07:32:48.400 it out let me just look and see yeah and you're not touching the other button do it again do it

07:32:54.800 again go from left to right oh i see when you go right right yeah center right left oh that's so

07:33:05.760 oh you know what i might okay i'll have to i'll look that's a technical thing i'll look at it after

07:33:10.400 the show can you remind me mary after the show to take a look at that i was noticing that happening

07:33:14.240 i'm not sure why uh quick follow-up though on the whole bowing thing uh do you guys want

07:33:21.840 a guy to adhere to or observe the sidewalk rule so this is when you're walking down the sidewalk

07:33:27.280 the guy walks closer to the where the cars are the street i don't care it's not necessity

07:33:33.760 but i think chivalry is not that i would appreciate that

07:33:36.720 i think it's a very sweet gesture if a man does that don't you think that that's a bigger ask though

07:33:47.440 than about but the thing is about is not as common as the crosswalk thing you were talking about but

07:33:56.800 all traditions there is an origin origination point like men kneeling that at some point

07:34:05.360 started somewhere and it was not a tradition that i don't know exactly when the knee getting down on

07:34:12.160 one knee thing it might even actually be a bit more on the modern side maybe i'm not totally sure

07:34:19.280 it has been kept ever since yeah majority of men would kneel but it started at some point right like

07:34:25.280 men were probably at one point like man i ain't gonna be no bitch i ain't gonna get down on the

07:34:29.680 knee and oh excuse well please can i marry you no it used to be woman you're mine here's here's

07:34:39.280 i've never been like this no it was asking their dad like can i just take her and the dad's like yeah

07:34:45.440 it's always been a business yeah i'm thinking of like caveman days and

07:34:49.040 shit it's a woman did they get married in caveman days here's a here's a dead wildebeest what you're

07:34:57.120 my wife woman like it's probably some crazy weird like here's a fucking wildebeest i killed this

07:35:03.600 wildebeest for you but yeah no i'd be like hey thanks

07:35:09.600 if a man kills a wildebeest for you that's pretty impressive i feel like

07:35:13.760 he's the one yeah that means he owns me completely for hey i wasn't saying that i was just saying you

07:35:18.000 got to at least be like all right in that time i'll go on a date with a guy he killed a wildebeest

07:35:22.960 no shit okay uh lynn will you marry me uh nope after knowing you for just a few hours

07:35:32.160 definitely not no i'm very rational rational so you need a green card yeah but that's that's what

07:35:39.360 what i'm getting at is is like that's you want a guy to get down on one knee like the way the way i did

07:35:44.880 the way the way i did it you wouldn't be okay with it yeah because the historical practice is

07:35:51.120 the guy needs to uh kneel it sounds like that doesn't like women that sounds like a man who

07:35:57.840 doesn't like women yeah it's because for me i think that's a very sweet and romantic gesture

07:36:03.840 because yeah why he doesn't want to kneel to a woman it sounds like you like men you female

07:36:09.920 supremacist you want us to get down on one knee and look what kind of oppression you guys are so

07:36:16.080 privileged that's not about privilege yeah you guys you guys are ridiculous this is misandry you

07:36:24.160 guys are sexist towards men and i'm just gonna say i don't think i think you guys have very outdated

07:36:30.560 uh true gender roles i thought we were supposed to talk about modern dating yeah i agree we've been

07:36:35.920 talking about the past and history and i don't want his woman to propose to him i thought that

07:36:41.120 i don't even want to get married that sounds like a man could propose to you yeah wouldn't you think

07:36:45.600 it's weird a guy makes an exception to not kneel at the proposal i would think he didn't really

07:36:49.920 put in that much effort he probably doesn't even know how to do a proper proposal would you be upset if

07:36:54.080 he bought you a uh a ring off of amazon um like a ten dollar ring if he could afford different then

07:37:03.920 maybe i i wouldn't be upset he's a millionaire well then i'd be like what's going on that's smart

07:37:09.040 that's smart if i was a billionaire and then look i wouldn't get married but if i was going to get

07:37:12.640 married trust me i'm getting her if you were a billionaire you wouldn't get married ten dollar

07:37:16.800 ring i'm getting if i was going to get married and i was a billionaire she can get a ten dollar

07:37:20.720 i'm getting her ten dollar ring on amazon okay because i'm a gentleman this would never happen

07:37:26.320 right right now you're getting a timu ring when she proposed can i just give him like a key key

07:37:30.960 chain return yeah i'm gonna give him like yeah like whatever that thing is called it's got a big

07:37:35.920 tie you're getting a zip tie it's 69 as a polish born man dot the blonde dumb ass is average at best

07:37:43.600 in poland and less than average in the usa don't let her lie to you brian she's your typical dumb

07:37:49.680 blonde typical internet 304 we don't claim her you don't claim her i guess he's from warsaw because

07:37:57.360 i i they don't like it because every point in poland is racist so i have a lot of scenes with

07:38:03.520 non-white people so they don't like me but i am the most famous porn star in poland you're the most

07:38:09.920 famous porn star in poland period uh-huh it's facts okay it's facts all right sure i believe you

07:38:17.840 we have relentless phallus oh boy relentless phallus donated 69 dollars question for the panel

07:38:24.960 who did you vote for or who would you have voted for that's so funny who did you vote for um i voted

07:38:33.120 for kamala but not because i support everything that she said just because i really did not want

07:38:38.240 donald trump to win okay who or i don't vote i voted for trump you voted for trump okay she's she's

07:38:46.560 she's on the fence you know she's kind of based sort of but my count doesn't matter in california

07:38:53.120 yeah i don't like them come on okay uh who did who did you vote for in the election

07:38:59.680 i didn't who would you have voted for neither okay fair what about you trump

07:39:06.080 i did not vote okay all right thank you uh relentless phallus for that question great name

07:39:13.840 wonderful name is this mary oh is this this is the mary my producer to do the laundry i always

07:39:22.960 bow for my boyfriend and wait you insist on doing the laundry like he's gonna try to do it you're like

07:39:28.320 nah okay look ladies i know you don't like this i'll just try it out like go to a guy's the first

07:39:37.680 time you go to the guy's house doesn't have to be the first date when you do go to the guy's house

07:39:40.960 for the first time just be like look at him wait let me give you the game i'm giving you the game i'm

07:39:50.480 i'm giving you the game look deep into his eyes deep into his eyes don't offer him a bj like you

07:39:58.320 want to do okay look deep into his eyes and be like i'm gonna do your laundry where's your

07:40:04.480 fucking laundry where is your laundry room where no no no you gotta say i i was being i was joking

07:40:10.720 you gotta be a bit more like feminine with it be like um can i please do your laundry sir um where's

07:40:16.480 your laundry room sounds like the beginning of a porno i'm stuck in the washer that's the only

07:40:23.440 time that we would do a laundry just be like where is your where's your laundry room where's your

07:40:27.760 laundry go and do his laundry go and offer to do his laundry do his laundry i know you hate to hear

07:40:34.960 that but i'm telling you this guy is gonna look at you differently and if that's what it takes to get

07:40:41.360 the guy you as a simp if that's what it takes to get the guy then i don't want the guy i'm not

07:40:46.400 listening to your advice anymore i don't think so you were already dealing with that dude before you

07:40:51.520 met me it's your fault i need to love her oh oh you met me you were dating this guy you started

07:40:57.280 doing the laundry which you're probably doing before anyways and then she's trying to blame

07:41:01.760 respecting you if you start being their servants no they'll fall in love with you no they'll fall

07:41:06.880 in love with you more i don't want to wipe you up i am a goddess and men are supposed to serve me

07:41:13.280 and that's how i feel nope and that's how i've been living my life disavow disagree okay so that's

07:41:19.920 i've been living my life for the last 10 years and men have been serving me so that's my reality

07:41:25.040 no so i agree with you and there's definitely i absolutely agree that women can my ex will do my

07:41:30.480 laundry would cook for me yes would do all that stuff will pick me up from the airport

07:41:34.640 would do everything for me i agree i guess that didn't work out either i agree with you that men

07:41:38.960 will probably because you didn't respect him i agree with you that men will do that

07:41:42.080 shit but i'm telling you ladies it's look if you do this it's not going to get you a negative outcome

07:41:51.520 if you really like the guy it's not but if you really anyone but if you like if you really like the

07:41:57.760 guy and maybe you've struggled in the past with getting the guy if you want to get the guy you

07:42:04.320 got to do things beyond what other women are willing to do every other woman is willing to suck his dick

07:42:11.280 every other woman is willing to give him sex you got to put yourself beyond what other women are

07:42:18.240 willing to do okay and if you think all it's going to take if you that guy you really want

07:42:24.800 if you think all it's going to take is to give him sex or have sex with him maybe for simps or dudes

07:42:31.200 who don't really like get a lot of women that might work but if you're dealing with a guy who's really

07:42:36.080 attractive and all you're bringing to the table is sex it's not going to be enough you got to bring

07:42:42.000 value in another way that's all we're bringing that's not what i'm saying either intelligence

07:42:47.920 yes it is yeah well no that's not the problem what's that i know a lot i'm sure if i bow in front

07:42:53.680 of my crush i child's will occur the formula one driver i was talking about he's not gonna just wife

07:42:58.160 me up no if you find the one there will be a balance some women want to do a guy's laundry

07:43:04.080 some women don't and they'll find their match but it's a willingness to be submissive

07:43:09.280 and show some sort of deference to him yeah showing deference is good also depends on um

07:43:15.120 how the men treat you back yes i'm the men the men what's the next problem otherwise you're a masochist

07:43:22.240 i'm gonna do his laundry and i shrink everything

07:43:26.000 look then he'll never i'll put one red shirt on purpose i'll just i'll just make sure i'll do it

07:43:32.080 really bad in the beginning so he'll never ask me to do it again i'm just saying weaponizing

07:43:35.680 competence i'll do that the last guy i did laundry for was not faithful and was a total sociopath so

07:43:42.640 okay sure and people can do all the right things and still end up with bad people what i am saying

07:43:47.680 is though it it actually will not hurt you actually at all to even test it out if you're going to the

07:43:55.440 guy's house for the first time oh my god test it out and maybe the response that you get from the guy

07:44:01.200 might be like wow okay so yeah i had to like do do laundry it took me five or ten minutes

07:44:07.440 and it took hold on it took a bit of effort but then if that gets the guy to be like who is holy

07:44:14.560 who is this woman she's like done this thing maybe like at least for me acts of service uh receiving

07:44:22.720 acts of service that's your love language receiving acts of service nice yeah that's like but i think

07:44:28.080 that's the case for a lot of guys i feel like all of those are for mine all they're all great they're

07:44:32.720 all wonderful all of us need all of that when you guys are choosing only one thing everyone needs

07:44:37.600 everything you didn't ask us what our love languages were yeah someone doesn't take it for granted

07:44:43.840 i'm just kidding i care you don't i can't you care sorry was that on camera my bad um all right let me

07:44:51.840 let the chats come through we'll let karma do it 30 tts get them in the chats are coming the roasts are

07:44:56.720 energy donated thirty dollars thank you big sass chair two covering up her fooper the entire

07:45:01.280 episode one thousand body count expects a man with a million plus salary so comically delusional

07:45:08.800 no man with that sort of money or close would settle for you i had plenty of offers babe okay

07:45:18.480 trusty texan donated thirty dollars brian on rights women can enslave men by lying

07:45:24.880 about birth control guy would have to pay her twenty percent of his income with jail time if he

07:45:30.640 refuses to pay with passport automatically revoked if over two thousand five hundred dollars

07:45:37.520 uh i mean yeah and the other thing uh so a woman could like poke a hole in a condom there there are

07:45:43.440 scenarios men who try to trap me before yeah men can do it too to women but that's why i said like

07:45:48.960 like they shouldn't have a lot of women do it they shouldn't if they don't want the child they

07:45:53.200 shouldn't have to be involved yeah but there are scenarios like probably the most egregious if the

07:45:57.520 woman's allowed to get an abortion if she chooses but there are even there are potentially even scenarios

07:46:03.760 where you might i might be able to convince you even in states where abortion is outlawed you might

07:46:10.080 even be willing to make some concessions on this so for example uh there are stories of like

07:46:16.320 teachers for example who essay their students like right in high school or whatever and the the

07:46:21.440 teacher gets pregnant and you would you would agree with me that this is like i don't know if

07:46:25.760 you would say it's great but you might say it's like a form of essay it is yeah um and so but

07:46:31.920 there have been cases where female uh like child predators got pregnant off of their victim yeah and

07:46:40.080 then we're able to pursue child support and i do not think that's fair that's very

07:46:46.000 i'm very sad now you're just a rare situation i am using a very extreme example but it it's in

07:46:53.760 context of what he brought in states where abortion is illegal and women cannot get an abortion for

07:46:59.680 any reason men should have to pay child support however if a woman has the right to choose and

07:47:04.240 chooses to keep the child then the man should also get a right to choose whether or not he's involved

07:47:08.960 or not pasty george george thank you man appreciate it chair one two three and four all i hear from you

07:47:16.560 for is what do you expect from men whether it is traditional or not if you expect things from men

07:47:23.200 why can't men expect such a little thing as a boat i literally said i don't expect anything i don't

07:47:28.000 expect the sidewalk wait let me say this i did not i don't expect the sidewalk rule i don't expect them to

07:47:34.240 pay for me i don't expect anything so count me out of that also i'm tasty george i'm gonna be taking

07:47:40.960 a hundred percent from what the men offer i reciprocate and because i never want to owe anything

07:47:47.040 but i don't want to make effort on men who don't even care about me who don't make any gesture i think

07:47:52.160 it's all about fairness and i think what's fair is women should do laundry on the first date

07:47:58.240 if i gotta pay for the first i'm paying for the first day maybe you could do the laundry you

07:48:03.280 know what i'm saying god i usually get paid to go on a date if you pay i'll drive

07:48:09.840 i get to free food and money on top of that 500 women are the worst drivers

07:48:14.560 make up is expensive too did you say women are the worst drivers yes maybe you are it's a joke

07:48:22.240 it's a joke calm down i'm an amazing driver i drive ferraris i've rode rolls royces wait guys guys guys

07:48:29.440 we got hold on let me read i gotta re-trigger it i gotta re-trigger it i can't is it this one pasty

07:48:34.400 george donated thirty dollars care two so a man who refuses to bow on one knee to a woman for proposing

07:48:42.000 is hateful to women then by that logic women who refuse to bow to men as a sign of respect

07:48:48.320 are hateful toward men good point it is a good point i'm hateful what what i do find interesting and

07:48:55.440 i won't linger on this is just like i do think there i do think that women want to sort of abandon or

07:49:05.520 what's god damn bro sorry i'm fucking tired women want to abandon their traditional gender roles

07:49:11.120 but they want men to adhere to their traditional gender roles so like even feminist liberal progressive

07:49:17.040 women are still going to like say stuff like i want a guy who's willing to provide and protect

07:49:21.600 and like do that take on the initiative when it comes to courtship and leadership and i want him to

07:49:26.160 ask me out i want him to make the first move i want him to go for the first kiss i want him to do

07:49:31.280 all the things that are uh associated traditionally with traditional gender roles but like i also want

07:49:36.960 to totally like get rid of all my traditional gender roles which i just think is interesting

07:49:43.680 i just want to be worshipped i still want to act like okay donated 30 dollars thank you one is

07:49:48.640 insufferable oh she's like a petulant 16 year old theater kid who takes herself too seriously

07:49:54.880 she thinks women should run the world but can't handle a few hours on a podcast without crying yeah i'm

07:50:00.880 having horrible stomach pains right now um and it's what one in the morning crazy back pain right

07:50:07.200 now it's my back one in the morning i'm exhausted or whatever it's like 12 something i don't know

07:50:13.280 back and neck pain good for you i'm answering a question you should go to yoga come down a little

07:50:19.840 bit you should do yoga i did not expect this today i thought this was gonna be a fun two-hour

07:50:28.000 podcast where we just talked about dating this was fun was it i had fun arguing with you i have

07:50:36.080 felt she had fun since i walked in she you had fun arguing with her too no i did not okay i i am i

07:50:43.440 stand corrected maryn had a terrible time i didn't say terrible i just wasn't enjoying myself these past

07:50:49.520 eight hours i i do want to say something nice to you maryn i know you know we obviously disagree on a

07:50:54.560 lot we were arguing we were debating i do want to give credit where credit is due um a lot of

07:51:00.160 people i think on both sides of the political spectrum uh don't want to have discussions with

07:51:06.240 the other side there's a lot of political polarization uh so i give you credit in terms of

07:51:11.040 your uh your i i don't know if bravery seems like a bit dramatic but like choice your conversation

07:51:17.440 your openness and willingness to sit down with somebody who you probably either ideologically

07:51:22.400 disagree with substantially have that conversation that shows an open-mindedness uh that that you're

07:51:29.280 even willing to have conversations that could be uh difficult or that you you know you're faced with

07:51:34.560 viewpoints and world views you disagree with you did participate you you provided a lot of pushback

07:51:41.120 so um i do give you credit one nice comment guys i got one nice comment and to his point you have been

07:51:50.080 in a lot of ways consistent like with some of the the logical stuff like you are at least consistent

07:51:56.880 for the most part there's been a couple things even though we disagree on things i'm still consistent

07:52:01.120 and i've said multiple times i think you can have your opinion i can have my opinion and by the way just

07:52:06.560 to be clear like again i know we argued no hard feelings whatsoever i don't have any ill will

07:52:12.560 towards you i thought it was a fun conversation i kind of enjoy having these uh you know disagreements

07:52:18.080 and heated conversations definitely interesting and uh yeah so we have randy here with a message

07:52:23.440 oh is it coming through chair one wasn't randy donated thirty dollars i knew it brixton you're

07:52:29.280 welcome for me putting you that was you randy thank you man appreciate it he is thirty dollars to buy

07:52:34.160 more oh thank you chair one you're insufferable entitled a man hater and midis fugue doctor her boyfriend

07:52:41.600 run w chair six scoot more that way run back wait can you guys with the makeup wipes can you just hold

07:52:47.680 them up to the camera right here just hold them up so we can see the damage like open it spread

07:52:52.960 whoa that sounded weird open it and spread that sounded in my bad house okay uh

07:52:58.320 uh we got pasty george pasty george donated thirty dollars

07:53:06.400 we in the chat thank you you voted for carmela harris you feminist lmfao that was really nice thank

07:53:12.800 you you can roast them back by the way i mean she works carmela harris i've been roasting pasty george

07:53:19.440 for spending the past eight hours watching the same podcast and spending all his money on it

07:53:24.320 well he's a patron of the show yeah pasty george pasty george he's you should go he's probably like

07:53:30.080 in his mom's basement where is trailer swift trailer swift trailer swift we're gonna wrap

07:53:36.560 the show we need you here trailer swift you call her trailer swift well it she uh should we pull it

07:53:43.680 should we oh my god trailer i'm trailer drift that's that that's her she's trailer drift should we

07:53:50.960 play the video yeah show them mary are you able to find the video or not that's a tongue is long

07:53:57.200 you're answering yeah i'm like confused mug shotties oh mug okay i'll try to find it while the chats come

07:54:02.160 through stargazer donated 30 a compliment chair one you are literally one of the most beautiful girls i

07:54:08.400 have ever seen in my life but your positions slash views are just strong i wish the best for you and i

07:54:14.480 hope you change your ways god bless you thank you question mark thank you were you able to find it

07:54:21.440 mary that was nice yeah mug shotties that ended with two nice comments is it just gonna be they're not

07:54:29.280 gonna pin it it's on reels no oh my how many fucking posts oh they have a i'm not gonna find it that's

07:54:36.160 like it's not that it's whatever i don't care mary if you can find it do it try to find uh just look

07:54:42.400 up my full name 29 no none cares for her career she's a total disgrace simps serve her not real men

07:54:51.280 she's only for the money she doesn't follow god she is not polish worthy she's following liberal ideology

07:54:58.240 i believe i'm god oh period i am following god does he follow yourself period huh interesting uh

07:55:08.160 i mean okay everyone's entitled to their own belief lizzie b 95 donated 69 dollars now that women work

07:55:15.520 due to feminism and pay into their own pensions should divorce laws be modernized so they no longer

07:55:21.440 allow access to a husband's pension i mean husbands can set up prenups so and so can wives

07:55:28.640 pre-nups exist pre-nups are good yeah pre-nups can be challenged and it only applies to

07:55:34.080 what is accrued during the course of the marriage course of the marriage so um there are concerns

07:55:41.280 there but can't really get guys into it thank you big sass appreciate it thank you liz by the

07:55:46.000 way it's gang banged by a bunch of dudes book cakes and came all over but buying for her man is the line

07:55:53.280 lololol oh thank you for that big sass energy appreciate it we have snap more i've never done

07:55:59.440 snap more donated 29 this misandrist gen is learning pretentiousness and losing sight on accountability

07:56:07.280 no morals no humility the most disgusting generation we've ever had in the history of

07:56:13.120 human race i think this is the best generation ever you think this generation is the worst

07:56:19.200 generation of the entire wait how old are you it's more the millennials and uh the older yeah i was

07:56:24.880 about to say i'm younger than you how old are you 20 i'm 19 wow good talk okay we have pasty george

07:56:32.960 here snap more things for the message 30 to the panel from chair one to chair six please answer one

07:56:40.160 at a time what duties and responsibilities do women have to themselves in today's modern society

07:56:46.560 in your own opinion um whatever i want for myself like what do you mean duties and responsibilities

07:56:52.880 for myself whatever i want for myself like it's my own decisions i don't really know what that question

07:56:58.320 means my duties to make myself happy keep myself happy if you're in the relationship of course being

07:57:07.920 devoted to the men but on the other hand if you're not in the relationship you can still be

07:57:12.720 financially and spiritually um independent and be happy

07:57:20.080 okay as a single person my only job is to make sure that i take care of myself

07:57:25.200 stay happy enjoy life stay alive yeah keep myself fed clothed

07:57:32.000 so the question just a reminder what duties and responsibilities do women have to themselves

07:57:36.320 in today's modern society i think uh being not promiscuous um being loyal but i feel like that goes

07:57:44.880 for everybody um respecting everybody especially men and all that they do for us do you have something to

07:57:52.640 say to hayley i'm saying if men are sleeping with someone did you grow up like amish or mormon or

07:57:59.200 something no i actually uh my family is liberal how do they feel about your views how do they feel about

07:58:06.080 my yeah and where are you from i'm from san cruz california really really liberal wow really that's

07:58:12.400 crazy how you've been like changed like this my family so crazy yeah it's pretty it's pretty crazy

07:58:20.080 well i do think there's a ton of shit wrong with society and so it can make it can push women back

07:58:25.520 to the extreme totally go back to the way things used to be because the cardi b songs and the pop the

07:58:30.640 pussy and the wop songs and all that shit is not helping men take women more seriously so we can't

07:58:36.480 control the movies that hollywood makes or the songs that people put out but what she's saying is we can

07:58:41.840 control ourselves and we can go back to being more old school and victorian yes not even old

07:58:48.400 i just don't know just being respectful of yourself and not showing off your bi-tech i think that's

07:58:52.960 every man every man feel good in it every man on my internet posting your sexy pictures on your

07:59:02.960 instagram saying oh it's just for myself it's just right but this is like a societal issue this is not

07:59:09.360 just like that we're so right like why does it matter though it's totally fine for you to say

07:59:16.320 for you dressing a certain way or posting a certain thing you don't like it it makes you uncomfortable

07:59:21.200 that's totally fine but to like put other women down and say like you have a duty to be not promiscuous

07:59:27.200 and you being promiscuous is wrong it's just it's ugly it's very like middle eastern well women should

07:59:33.600 be fully covered and wear parkas and keep their hair covered and not speak i think that um

07:59:41.520 if you want men to respect you then you shouldn't be dressing promiscuously like with the gym all

07:59:48.640 those girls that wear the super tight they're in their bra and they're in spandex that you can

07:59:53.600 literally see everything yeah but it's not about you can see the you can see the vagina and they're

07:59:59.200 like hold on let me finish my point let me finish my point and all the women are like oh why is this

08:00:04.480 creepy guy why is he still why is he looking at me in the gym i'm just here to work out but you're

08:00:09.600 literally dressed guys you're literally let me finish my point please sounds like you're

08:00:14.960 adult and you haven't tapped into your own femininity or sexuality yet at this point in your life please

08:00:20.240 don't interrupt me stare at me working out like yeah that's not really don't even work out they're

08:00:25.600 just sitting like across men don't work out just to look at me and stalk and watch me work out you

08:00:31.760 don't understand that what are you wearing what doesn't matter what i'm wearing doesn't matter what

08:00:35.600 i'm wearing because men inherently like are creepy and ass unmarried creepy they've never seen a woman

08:00:41.520 before does that mean when i see a man in a speedo i like go up to him and stare at his penis

08:00:46.320 feel pretty and feel sexy herself what does her mother has total liberty to feel good i don't

08:00:51.760 either think about the gym yeah no one was talking about i was talking about promiscuity and one of

08:00:57.280 the main things in promiscuity is in the gym all the girls wear super tight bras have having their

08:01:05.440 boobs a sports bra yeah and their boobs are popping out and they wear spandex that go

08:01:11.280 right yes i go to the gym what about like a ride up that ride up that you wear sweats and a long

08:01:17.120 crazy a vagina i just don't see what she wears a suit to the gym with i could dressing and i

08:01:23.360 were like like a real person like they're dressing like a like an object

08:01:28.400 ask like lululemon all these brands to stop like producing like tights and don't buy them they're

08:01:34.400 actually really bad for you they're made out of plastic so we should all stop wearing that

08:01:37.760 actually honestly environment guys yeah we should wake up and you're touching on a topic i would

08:01:41.680 have loved to spend the whole podcast talking instead we talked about a bunch of bullshit

08:01:46.240 that i'm not well educated she's saying that women dress too promiscuously at the gym wearing a sports

08:01:53.600 bra and shorts is too promiscuous them and overly sexual yeah women are like god made me like this one

08:02:04.080 you guys can make your arguments just one at a time please go ahead women are like why is this guy

08:02:08.960 looking at me when you're literally dressed in nothing but did any of us say that logic

08:02:14.720 no we did not so you're just assuming but most women the question was what are your responsibilities

08:02:23.440 as a woman in today's yes and i said not dressing promise yeah but women in india still get graped even

08:02:28.640 if they're fully dressed what are your responsibilities what not men will are not

08:02:32.880 literally names yes exactly yeah do you know how all stds came to be it's from men having sex with

08:02:39.920 different animals like if we want to be real let's be real like hold on i'm gonna need a fact

08:02:44.640 check honestly you guys like men are not something i'm pretty sure chlamydia came from like a dolphin

08:02:50.560 or a cat or something it came from like monkeys or something everything came from an animal

08:02:55.440 sexual intercourse with chimps from ben having sex with animals white men this could have been

08:03:00.560 way much i mean i get her point some women do but those animals were naked so it's their fault oh my

08:03:06.240 god yeah they looked at me she looked at me like this stop for a sec go ahead felicity i get your

08:03:11.680 point there are some women that overdo it but i don't think it's really as common as you're making

08:03:16.720 it seem to be like at all i go to the gym pretty often and i mean i just wear leggings and

08:03:22.320 a t-shirt and i don't i'm not bothered if other women want to wear a sports bra or shorts or

08:03:29.200 leggings it doesn't matter and it's not as common as you may think and you have every right to choose

08:03:35.280 not to dress permissive yeah but my issue here is why do they complain about men who's staring at them

08:03:42.800 the women who are so many women in this so many women are like little why why is this creepy guy

08:03:49.920 looking at me but guys will still even even if you're attracted parties even like frat parties

08:03:55.760 and they're like that parties that's like literally almost every woman gets raped by one of those yeah

08:03:59.600 like okay guys like okay yeah like i get hit on even if i'm just wearing normal t-shirts and jeans

08:04:06.000 i'm not saying she's wearing i'm not saying that i'm not saying that you wouldn't get hit on like

08:04:12.480 i get hit on even i like staring at a woman who i don't take any who has like nice outfits

08:04:18.720 workout ass outfits because i appreciate her being disciplined and being dedicated to her health

08:04:23.840 routine yeah and looking good exactly can we watch your drift video we're allowed to love looking at

08:04:30.080 people there's guys we're gonna watch her drift video and stop talking about it do you guys want to

08:04:34.240 watch it yeah i want to see it and then you're drifting a car yeah um do you want to go home

08:04:40.320 uh yeah well yeah we're just gonna skip that okay then i'll never see it uh i've been in tokyo and i've

08:04:45.920 been on like the tokyo drift is real i got picked up in a lamborghini my friend and daddy and he didn't

08:04:51.680 speak any english it was all japanese and we were rolling it was so much fun no it's because i ran from

08:04:57.120 otis driftwood donated 30 dollars for your headache tonight oh thank you these degenerates chair one

08:05:03.920 through four murder is not the answer you are promoting a horrible existence okay unaliving

08:05:10.400 children is horrendous and murder okay thank you guys

08:05:15.200 it doesn't make sense i think chauvinists are listening to this podcast it's like men want to

08:05:19.680 have sex but who do you guys want to have sex with if you don't respect women brian's not even the

08:05:23.840 best debater on his own show still crushed it tonight i did okay i did okay five seems cool though

08:05:30.960 get yourself the fattest of burritos brian you've earned it thank you thank you very much thank you

08:05:36.000 justin i appreciate it we have big sass energy thank you big sass energy donated we did uh pull

08:05:42.000 up channing taylor please pull up an image side by side i still don't know who this rachel lady is

08:05:47.680 like please break it down who is this rachel lady mary you see the name rachel uh google it really quick

08:05:52.960 we'll pull up a picture for context thank you big sass energy we have beaten oh my goodness

08:05:58.160 beaten cheeks 30 dollars oh my god i just woke up i haven't heard much pots and pans

08:06:03.440 bossing ccp rep went from feminine to intolerable after divorce hence her divorce why do you think

08:06:10.480 you deserve anything after being a boss babe what ccp mean that's the one of the chinese commune

08:06:18.880 the chinese communist party the college of philadelphia is she went from wait the communist

08:06:23.360 party thing i honestly was pretty blind i can't even read the subtitles i wish i had grabbed my glasses

08:06:30.160 from my car i wish moving on that yeah what's your correction level is it like negative what no i

08:06:36.400 mean i have my lasik but you have it okay pull it up rachel don't us all after lasik uh scroll up

08:06:41.840 scroll up scroll up to this lady to pretend she was black she pretended she was black and no way

08:06:47.520 there is a bit of a striking striking resemblance wait how did she pretend this is jewish hair

08:06:54.080 that girl fakes her hair no but she's white she's but that's a fake perm she doesn't even have real

08:06:58.800 curly wait that's a before and after picture of her that's crazy no i'm saying your facial structure

08:07:05.680 looks like the facial features and your hair is similar to her now you just sound like every other

08:07:09.920 ignorant person that's asked me if my dad's black like no i have jewish uh heritage so jewish

08:07:15.840 people naturally like thick curly hair i said you look like a white woman so how would that be

08:07:21.360 to be a black woman right that's an insult in in most of those photos that came up she looks black

08:07:27.280 okay well i got she didn't even know who she was i know this i know who this all right hold on hold

08:07:31.440 on moving on oh relentless phallus hey thank you man chair one is the evil version of chair five

08:07:37.520 wow thank you she wishes wow ain't that something okay uh thank you for that one person's evil is

08:07:45.360 the next person's normal right we live in an evil world uh oh this is below the threshold um what if

08:07:53.520 you had only good experiences i suggest people it's below the threshold i'm sorry um it went away

08:07:59.360 but what i will do steven villar floor thank you for the message i do appreciate it thank you thank you

08:08:05.440 the many faced many for seed donated thirty dollars yeah chair one is pretty but still insufferable

08:08:12.960 but she's young so hopefully she grows out of it unfortunately it's probably too late for chairs

08:08:19.760 two and four too late for you guys follow a conversation yeah all right thank you for that

08:08:25.760 appreciate it appreciate it have you had been under a lot of stress since the charlie kirk debate

08:08:30.720 oh my god i got so many death threats it was wild wow and a lot of hate people tried to get me like

08:08:38.480 it was just crazy i just got like yeah it was bad but you know what what doesn't kill you makes you

08:08:43.280 stronger what doesn't kill you gets you potential death threats gotta love it energy donated thank you

08:08:50.320 appreciate it man thank you one to four saying chair five wants to go back to the time when women

08:08:54.880 couldn't speak while collectively speaking over her and trying to silence her opinion classic

08:09:00.400 classic hypocrite feminist three hundred and so classic guys get them in we're gonna get this

08:09:04.800 wrapped so get them in if you want final call final call on tts share one you remind me of my ex

08:09:11.440 i lived with for four years you say he ran back to you but all i see is the term manipulating and using

08:09:18.080 a man who's trying to grow and gaslighting him for your ego leave him alone wait i never i don't know

08:09:26.000 what that person's talking about i never said anyone ran back to me me and my boyfriend are fine

08:09:30.400 we've never broken up so i don't but good try what's the freaking zero to one seven donated thirty

08:09:39.120 dollars who the fuck is this a dude did you get the nudes i sent in

08:09:43.840 what can't even read next

08:09:50.400 who's nude is that a guy please please don't send me nudes uh anybody please don't send me nudes um

08:09:58.960 but okay

08:10:01.120 steven villafle donated thirty dollars what if you have had only good experiences i suggest people

08:10:07.680 should attune to their lover instead of outside influences that modify their perceptions of what

08:10:12.720 their relationship should be like only good and only good thank you steve okay steven oh okay

08:10:19.440 pasty george denace george jeff five you are based on this panel for speaking the truth and

08:10:25.760 stating common sense shares one two three and four were so triggered by your valid responses that they

08:10:33.040 attacked you right away lmfao thank you it's just um crazy it's the fan base

08:10:41.120 i believe that beaten cheeks i can't pull up this chat because no it's i'm probably sure a lot

08:10:46.960 beaten cheeks i'll read it the the parts that are appropriate when chair

08:10:52.480 when chair three speaks i feel my pots and pans are being dropped in my kitchen

08:10:57.440 i can't read this part brian if you're being blackmailed into having ccp reps i'll help you out bruv

08:11:04.080 oh the ccp is uh going after you tonight watch out yeah see she admits it they're not coming to

08:11:11.760 drop your pots and pans they're probably gonna come over and burn your roof careful

08:11:17.120 hey she's funny she's she's kind of funny not gonna lie she's got some jokes this is the part

08:11:21.440 of the show that can prove chair one's whole world view wrong is how women will treat other women in

08:11:26.880 social situations her views differ so let's dog pile and make her feel bad do you feel like they did

08:11:32.880 that i do think that they were all speaking at once very loudly so i do agree with the dog pile

08:11:41.200 thing but i don't they didn't make me feel bad see what you're doing you're going against the sisterhood

08:11:46.560 and the sisterhood will not tolerate dissident opinions that's not the sisterhood is not strong

08:11:54.240 with this one what i said was i wish we would have been talking about this on the entire show

08:11:59.440 it's not she has an interesting perspective and i'm not saying she's wrong she's very valid in her

08:12:05.200 points and her opinions are 100 valid i think it was worth a bigger conversation not a two second

08:12:11.920 please put your answer out she's she's totally allowed to have her own opinions it's when she

08:12:18.160 tries to force them onto all women that i have a problem with yeah oh wait how can i force by saying

08:12:25.120 that all women's promiscuously by how can i it's not you forcing us to but that's what you just said

08:12:30.880 i was doing because you're saying that we shouldn't be doing it you're saying i said that you shouldn't

08:12:37.360 be doing something that would that's my own choice that would help you in the long run help me with

08:12:43.760 what i'm getting a valuable man am i dressed super promiscuously right now not super but your tits are

08:12:50.320 out so um the guy i'm with chose this outfit for me i mean under this shirt so that do you think he's

08:12:57.680 a yeah what about celebrities he's a like mad gala so celebrities at mad gala and all those uh

08:13:03.760 red carpet show they're all like promiscuous that's really sad wow it's a world i do i do

08:13:10.480 think that promiscuity is sad i do i just think it's fine if you say that for you personally you

08:13:15.680 don't want to be promiscuous and you feel that you're going to get more respect for that and you

08:13:19.200 can say that about yourself but to enforce it onto other women is wrong i'm not forcing on i didn't

08:13:25.520 say literally i said enforcing i'm trying to give you guys advice for wrong advice that makes me feel

08:13:32.400 disgusting and offended not logic okay yeah i'm sorry that i made you feel bad but it doesn't

08:13:40.000 mean you have to impose it on us that's what i'm saying i think you should brush your hair that's

08:13:44.320 my opinion exactly yeah my hair does get messy after a little while yeah yeah that's a sign of respect

08:13:51.120 as well

08:13:58.720 are we done nope what is that almost almost there's the end music now can we roast each

08:14:04.720 other i got you guys i know donated 30 thank you jordan women are for women as long as they agree with

08:14:10.720 them as long as they don't try to impose their ideas onto me i'm for all women exactly i'm like this

08:14:18.560 one over here hot cheese soup donated 30 dollars always got to be victims bricks and you get the new

08:14:25.360 des what did you get the nudes he keeps someone keeps saying that they were sending you nudes so

08:14:32.080 i'm yeah good talk uh melanova thank you underscorn over donated 30 dollars chair five gets it good

08:14:41.920 on you girl those chicks that wear almost nothing and then act like they're surprised someone notices

08:14:48.160 them you know what you're doing and that's why you're doing it thank you yes i'm proud this podcast

08:14:55.200 is like giving you the recognition you want though because i wouldn't give it i would not give a

08:15:00.720 fuck if they were disagreeing with me sure yeah but also who are watching this podcast what's the

08:15:08.960 demographic like oh god uh that's what i'm saying very handsome single men rich chauvinists no very

08:15:16.640 handsome men who deeply respect women who have huge penises and who are awesome and really cool and

08:15:23.840 also super cool and have huge penises right and they're not gonna get divorced by the age of 30

08:15:31.120 mic drop i think divorce is perfectly fine if you don't love the person and if you don't

08:15:35.200 want to be with that person do you believe that divorce is wrong i do yes wow are you sure you're

08:15:41.520 not mormon do you want to be mormon no i'm actually i'm christian i'm christian

08:15:50.000 okay yeah probably fundamentalist christian wait that's like the mainstream catholic

08:15:55.440 viewpoint that like divorce is yeah yeah but even but you've had sex before marriage it says it in

08:16:02.640 the bible but you've had sex before marriage so you're going straight to hell i am a sinner and

08:16:07.840 and you're a sinner and you're not a sinner well i don't believe in god so i'm not a sinner okay

08:16:12.480 i don't play that game i hope god finds you one day i'm not a sinner we all are sinners that's your

08:16:20.000 opinion yeah this is not a preaching session here so i think being the girls man i'm getting dog

08:16:28.000 mild brian i'm getting dog mild i think being sexual and being open with your body and knowing

08:16:34.400 who you are as a woman is something that god would appreciate that's why he made our bodies

08:16:39.120 the clitoris has nothing to do but orgasm that's the only thing it's made for let me say really

08:16:44.480 quick nothing else she can just if she wants you can just wait if you started all your sentences with

08:16:50.320 for me personally i would have zero problem with anything you've said however it's the fact that

08:16:56.400 you're trying to like make it seem normalized for all women when it's just you can't do that

08:17:03.360 within the confines of her worldview what's actually wrong with making prescriptive claims

08:17:07.840 about what should be or what she thinks is better for society like what's actually wrong with that

08:17:12.880 it's the tone of voice she uses that tone oh did my tone hurt you i'm so sorry

08:17:20.560 i mean i'm sorry i'm very pretty i'm so sorry

08:17:24.080 not y'all been shitting on me i'm gonna shine you now go for it we're not shitting on you we respect

08:17:28.480 the diversity of opinions like brian doesn't want us to be like a silent um podcast or just all sitting

08:17:34.800 here like not again if you said otherwise how are how is he gonna get all the donations right

08:17:39.600 by me saying it's your tone of voice i mean it's the fact that instead of saying in my opinion

08:17:45.040 blah blah blah blah it's you saying like women shouldn't do this and this shouldn't be a thing

08:17:49.200 and you guys have you been saying in my opinion yes literally yes yeah i respect the fact you're

08:17:56.880 a christian but it doesn't mean that everybody has to follow the christian rules we all are at

08:18:02.160 liberty to choose the way we want to live even if i wasn't christian i would still believe that

08:18:07.520 promiscuity is bad for us our society okay i think you guys believe then what about all those men that

08:18:14.800 like bad i'm glad i used the terminology that he likes having sex with each other who do they want

08:18:20.640 to have sex with if the women are opening up their legs brian can we please continue oh you don't want

08:18:25.920 the logic like if you guys have i just men want to have intercourse with people i just can't handle

08:18:31.600 who are they going to have intercourse with a german bad state virgin like just the pure idiocy i

08:18:37.360 just can't it doesn't make sense idiocy okay it doesn't make sense if we should both there then

08:18:41.760 men should stay virgins also if you're accusing us of idiocy that means wait actually because she's

08:18:46.800 of opinions she's not a virgin in the christian faith though they're prescriptively i think there is

08:18:52.880 something chastity is valued in both men and women yeah yeah i also appreciate so it would be

08:18:58.560 within the purview of her faith that virginity is like something that's valuable or chastity at the

08:19:05.280 least here i gotta get through the rest of the chats though guys because we got what do you mean the

08:19:09.280 rest there's a there's we have to do all of them we gotta do we're there we'll get there we'll get

08:19:15.280 their marriage rights than women and women can enslave men have their passports revoked and have

08:19:20.640 them arrested thank you trusty literal slaves that must work and can't leave okay we've heard that

08:19:29.200 next trusty texan i appreciate your message here the girls really enjoyed your message

08:19:34.080 pasty george donated thirty dollars thank you five is correct about women objectifying themselves

08:19:41.280 for male attention and validation still when they get it from men they don't like they complain and

08:19:47.200 post tiktok videos online about it well there's some of those crazy gym videos man toxic crazy gym

08:19:52.800 one donated thirty dollars yo toxic thank you man five be proud and strong and loud what does 30

08:19:58.480 mean area code it's an area code when you show them how pathetic their lifestyles are it's

08:20:04.880 thank you toxic appreciate it we have hot

08:20:09.120 donated thirty dollars oh i'm a dude and they're getting sent i just got up bro don't don't do that

08:20:15.920 please oh rude yo 90 bucks just to say that he sent you nudes well i think it was a different

08:20:22.320 person that's no it's the same person one two three nine no donated turdin thank you man thank you

08:20:27.200 thank you thank you chair three where the company name of lululemon came come oh my god the race

08:20:31.760 came come oh it is yeah i don't know oh i the owner it was racist and he only did it because he

08:20:38.720 asian women can't orientated donated thirty dollars it's a racist guy i've been where the ladies are

08:20:43.840 two's aborts stripper military vet stabbed in the face sexual assault tbi survivor i'm a child of

08:20:51.680 wrath but saved by grace my perspective is from both sides uh thank you for that one

08:20:57.360 oh my god i'm so sorry you got stabbed in the face and all that other stuff that's scary

08:21:02.880 was that was that genuine or yeah that's terrifying you got stabbed in the face

08:21:07.040 pasty george thank you pasty george appreciate it thank you thank you the sisterhood was triggered

08:21:11.200 again and very triggered they got very triggered incorrect very triggered against chair five you

08:21:16.240 feminists are so pathetic and predictable not feminists oh well i get triggered when people are

08:21:21.280 rude so was she rude though she seemed pretty nice with her i wasn't i wasn't rude to you until

08:21:27.840 you guys were rude to me because you've just been disrespectful towards all women from the start

08:21:34.240 i'm disrespectful because i disagree with your opinions it's not that you disagree with me it's

08:21:39.760 that you hold disrespectful opinions i would actually i'm not gonna lie but it's okay

08:21:44.240 enjoy that that's your opinion exactly brian said this is enjoyable to have this uh interesting

08:21:50.080 interchange no no you asked me if if you just sat there and were quiet and just not agreed with

08:21:55.600 everything i said i would actually but then you i can just argue with donations well with me i would

08:22:02.320 just argue with maren then with me about yes brian you're right about everything about what big sas

08:22:07.920 energy i don't know i forgot sharing an opinion of how she thinks certain behaviors would enable a

08:22:13.840 better worldly outcome is the same thing you 304s have been doing classic dog pile sisterhood again

08:22:22.160 thank you big sas not enforcing i mean it's hilarious gross donated 30 panzer tank chair one

08:22:29.520 is gonna be a panzer tank within the next year or two i don't know what that means i don't know

08:22:34.720 i guess that's probably mean so no i'm not beaten cheeks beaten cheeks donated thirty dollars

08:22:44.160 i speak for a large part of the demographic when i say this we love women just not the high calorie

08:22:50.480 feminist ccp type so you don't love the only thing liberal women are good for arm is debbie

08:22:55.840 creamy specials oh okay yeah we won't go after him either oh fair oj simpson donated 30 dollars

08:23:06.480 No I'm speaking

08:23:07.100 Do you want to say it one more time?

08:23:24.080 No I'm speaking

08:23:24.720 We didn't really have a moment like that tonight

08:23:27.340 Like

08:23:29.000 Like a no I'm speaking moment

08:23:31.040 There wasn't that moment

08:23:32.020 Well you didn't interrupt me as many times as Charlie Kirk did

08:23:35.060 straight to my face so we've had him on the show by the way i would never want to look him

08:23:41.900 um no i wasn't a little bit not really okay chair one i don't think the sun's real so i can't get

08:23:49.020 sunburned lol never said that and i don't i have no clue so i'm trying to think gun crazed panda

08:23:56.120 go back to your mom's basement thank you thank you panda appreciate it mom's basement wow are

08:24:01.960 you gonna let her talk to you like that bro six five never apologize please don't send any more

08:24:07.380 chats i really want to go home when degenerates tried to force their sick destructive ideas on

08:24:13.160 society you fight back at every point the hypocrisy is laughable with digins

08:24:17.940 bro you got all the republicans in love with you shoddy

08:24:21.220 ladies all i hear is a bunch of coke c5 is based af the rest of y'all sound like a bunch of chicks

08:24:30.920 clock harder wow good roast thank you man thank you thank you ashley

08:24:37.300 three dollars chair five's worldview is correct now the sisterhood is tone policing another woman

08:24:43.740 who disagrees or stands in line with them lmfao like we said it's not about them disagree

08:24:50.800 man's peaks donated thirty dollars thank you i like chair five pay attention how chair one cuts

08:24:57.100 her off and doesn't give another woman the same respect that she demands from herself hypocritical no

08:25:03.180 i also got cut off paradoxical 119 donated thirty dollars thank you man seat five based af

08:25:11.260 absolutely cooking seats one two three four cooking crushing the dog pie crushing the dog

08:25:18.360 what happened to you everything you say is so angry and bitter you're a 50 year old cat lady before even

08:25:25.400 hitting 20 i can't wait to be a cat lady world breaker donated thirty dollars prescription for

08:25:31.960 society is women wouldn't be oppressive if the world would be run by women as we are oppressive to

08:25:37.480 the woman who differs from my opinion congrats you've proven your own theory wrong i'm not being

08:25:43.220 oppressive to her i'm just saying that she's being oppressive to women in general erin you oppressed

08:25:49.800 i didn't though you oppressed her how however you did exactly i did not i literally just said that

08:25:57.460 her opinion is oppressive towards women you mega oppressed her okay you giga oppressed her

08:26:02.700 you super do one more you super oppressed her one more let's go super saiyan level three oppressed

08:26:08.300 her okay i wish i did a little bossy there from maron okay here we go dodo burp dodo burp donated

08:26:16.700 sixty nine dollars chair five is exactly my type the slightly disheveled hair the calm cool and collected

08:26:24.340 attitude i'm sure in time you'll find the perfect man for you if you haven't already you're in a

08:26:30.200 relationship i am in a i am already with my perfect man he's very happy very very happy you're like

08:26:38.320 pretty much in the longest relationship here at the table three and a half years seven years

08:26:43.660 you're tired girl you're 19 you haven't lived a life you haven't it's like good for you you're not in a

08:26:48.980 relationship you're gonna break up in a couple months don't worry about it i don't know if he's

08:26:52.180 gonna go for more than three and a half years it never works out like it it's like kid love

08:26:56.980 maybe okay cheers police donated 30 dollars share the second of maybe a polish 10 but she's an

08:27:05.780 alabama five and california raisin thank you what am what am i in like uzbekistan am i a 10 in

08:27:17.080 uzbekistan what's that i think i'm a solid uzbekistan 10. i don't know where that is but

08:27:23.420 go there and find out that's a different race that doesn't matter at all they might not even

08:27:27.620 have women there i mean there's nothing to compare it's a different race yeah but i'm

08:27:31.700 they're central asians okay then i'm a kazakhstan 10. where kazakhstan that's still like

08:27:39.300 uzbekistan's neighbor i mean okay fine i'm a mongolian 10. but still there it's not the same

08:27:46.680 i'm a tibetan 10. it's all perspective fine everyone has i'm a azerbaijan 10. you're just

08:27:54.040 testing each other's geography yeah okay he's in a beholder yeah yes hot cheese soup donated 30

08:28:00.540 dollars thank you hot cheese they think they have their social media i'll give a hint it's not

08:28:05.560 empowered women supporting each other it's single men the difference is that on the whatever podcast

08:28:11.200 they aren't despised what did i just not understand it it's too small snap more donated

08:28:19.440 29 share for you are right dot they are tricky because you are pointing out a valid or claim

08:28:25.560 dot these 304s are hopeless share to hide your gunt stfu walk tour no hope for this generation dot

08:28:34.500 one and four gaslight sir i think he meant chair five possibly on that yeah he definitely meant chair

08:28:40.640 thank you snap more durden one two three nine no donated thirty dollars what is the reason for

08:28:46.900 men to get married so they could cheat that does not matter whatever they want like i don't know

08:28:52.000 that doesn't really track they could trap a woman and have her stay in a house with the dishes and

08:28:56.420 they could have a life whatever they do outside couldn't you cheat on a girl absent marriage they

08:29:01.580 need they need someone to do the laundry they don't want to do the laundry they want to get a maid

08:29:05.640 well apparently girlfriends are supposed to do the laundry on the first day go out and do whatever

08:29:10.480 they want trust me they do all right the point of marriage for men would probably be so they can

08:29:15.240 have children with and have rights to their children give their children their last name so mad at chair

08:29:20.240 five when the question was literally their responsibilities about themselves i know you're

08:29:25.680 grumpy but pay attention fool chair five is hotter anyways um whatever she didn't answer for

08:29:32.880 herself though she answered for all of us how do you feel about that last comment though about chair

08:29:38.340 five him him saying chair five is hotter that's that's a personal opinion that is just his personal

08:29:46.520 opinion we have everyone can have opinions that is true call so kicker donated thirty dollars

08:29:52.520 yours turn to this girl for sharing her opinion has been disgusting and you're saying the most

08:29:58.480 soft-spoken person here has had a bad tone is beyond hypocritical dot y'all should be ashamed of

08:30:03.940 yourself you spelt hypocritical and yourselves wrong sorry i just don't think you like what she said her

08:30:08.840 tone sounded fine her tone to me came off as very like honestly derogatory towards women and that's just

08:30:16.360 how i saw it and if it wasn't meant to be that way then sorry i heard it wrong it wasn't like she was

08:30:20.820 being like a tone like aggressive tone it's the things she said the tone of the words she said would you

08:30:27.600 characterize it as holier than thou yes is that the tone oh my gosh yes yeah yeah yeah that's a good

08:30:35.280 way to put it do you want repeat the tone repeat what you said what does that mean it means you think

08:30:39.720 you're holier than we are like you're just like a better person you think you have better morals

08:30:44.480 do you think well i do agree with the better morals part yeah okay yeah i'm glad you think that

08:30:52.300 but i do agree that my tone has been pretty normal and i don't know why you were attacking it but

08:31:00.780 what's that noise pasty george donated 30 dollars thank you has been respectful during this entire

08:31:11.540 podcast chair one how has chair five been disrespectful to all women your words she's

08:31:19.540 been disrespectful to all donated 30 dollars guaranteed trump wouldn't even touch chair one

08:31:25.780 he'd send her tiger and sherman tank gingerly to ukraine okay i don't know what that okay

08:31:35.140 yikes donated 30 shout out to cga chair two looks like a busted can of billsbury biscuits

08:31:45.180 i don't know what that means probably for the best toxic 61 donated 30 dollars chair two how does

08:31:56.180 it feel sitting directly across from an actual 10 lol i did tell her she's a 10 and she didn't even

08:32:01.900 appreciate that she didn't even realize that you you said you were a seven or six no i'm just i'm

08:32:07.180 i miss said i i told her that she's a 10 actually i think you're very beautiful thank you and it takes

08:32:14.380 it takes a lot for us women to look like this and it's a lot of effort and i appreciate that

08:32:20.380 you think you think that this is an accident like you think this is premeditated baby like this

08:32:28.460 is it okay okay i'm being cringe i'm being cringe i'm being cringe my bad

08:32:34.300 donated thirty dollars the reason why the whatever podcast states that chair five is based is because

08:32:40.700 her world view is correct final call guys we're gonna final call to chairs one to four stop being

08:32:46.300 oppressive to her and her free speech last call last call i'm just saying you guys want

08:32:51.500 final call she's religious so it makes sense that's why she has her opinions but again i said

08:32:58.300 even if i wasn't christian i would still think that promiscuity is bad for us and i said i think right

08:33:03.900 sorry to interrupt i said i think promiscuity should have been a larger part of our conversation topic

08:33:08.220 not talking about ancient kings and queens or some of the other bullshit we talked about for

08:33:13.020 eight or nine hours can i also just say if you had just said that you think promiscuity is bad for

08:33:18.540 women or whatever like i would have understood that but it's the way you were like all these

08:33:22.140 women go to the gym in a sports bra and they complain that men are doing this like they're so

08:33:27.420 whatever it's the way you said it and it made me feel very uncomfortable i'm sorry it made you feel

08:33:32.220 uncomfortable but um i don't actually know that was a joke but um my first statement was that promiscuity

08:33:40.060 is bad and then i went into more detail as to why it's bad and why women think that they

08:33:48.540 are able to just say like oh i'm such a victim when they're dressed like three oh foes i think

08:33:56.380 okay it's just we don't know where that came from that's why maryn was sort of questioning you because

08:34:01.740 it seemed like that you just brought it up for no reason as in the question you were i brought it up

08:34:07.340 because that was the role that i think that women should but it wasn't about all women it was what role

08:34:13.020 do you think you have for yourself so you could have just answered it for yourself but you

08:34:16.780 decided to answer it for all women by saying that all women should not be bad for dressing

08:34:22.540 promiscuously pointing her out and using us as examples it was rude so i don't you asked me for

08:34:29.980 my opinion on you how is that rude you gave her your opinion on her without her asking

08:34:37.180 do you think i'm dressed promiscuously uh yes i'm definitely dressed promiscuously well

08:34:42.380 girl a white one down shirt and a skirt that covers everything i mean brian literally had to

08:34:47.260 ask you to cover up i'm literally in shorts that go past my knees right now and i'm wearing a shirt

08:34:52.940 under my shirt because it's too booby i didn't know we live in afghanistan and i'm sorry i have big tits

08:34:57.420 so yeah can you give us some towels brian so you can cover us up you know what i actually have

08:35:02.300 some burkas it might be better i'm sorry i forgot my nun costume at home i think we should all just

08:35:05.740 start wearing burkas from now on this week that's not the worst idea oh sorry it contaminated your eyes

08:35:12.380 they'll still my eyes my eyes are still whoever thinks uh this is too revealing

08:35:18.140 oj simpson donated thirty dollars i am overly emotional and not listening to anything anybody

08:35:24.220 says because no i am speaking also chair two we all know it's stank uh oj simpson thank you for the

08:35:33.580 thank you for the message appreciate it big sass energy donated thirty dollars imagine policing the

08:35:39.740 most monotone delivery in the history of the show such cunty behavior from chair one you lost you nasty

08:35:47.980 there is no winning and losing in a conversation default your underscore clove five he donated thirty

08:35:53.340 dollars chair one two three four all are the mainstream opinions take the red pill like chair

08:35:59.340 five has we all had different opinions this whole time i'd take the pink pill please

08:36:04.780 i don't understand really quick guys guys if you enjoyed the stream like the video like the video

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08:36:31.820 check if you have a prime sub available maybe you can check there's 1200 people watching uh check if you

08:36:37.020 have a prime sub available drop us a prime if you have one guys it's 18 minutes i think it's bugged

08:36:43.020 it's been 18 minutes since the last time we got a prime sub i do think it's bugged you know dream

08:36:47.180 thank for the follow galaxy thank for the follow mr vol ds vol ds thank i don't know how to pronounce

08:36:53.260 it thank you for the prime man i really appreciate it all right we have these soup chats then hopefully

08:36:56.860 these should be uh chair one mid typical feminist chair two is a low class but desperate wannabe chair

08:37:03.100 three talks but no substance chair four needs to learn to uh sthu and listen chair five are your views

08:37:09.100 real or is it an act absolutely real okay uh dummy thick chair one respect to the consistency do you

08:37:16.460 come from a debate background i do not i have no clue what i'm doing i think that's clear and i did

08:37:22.140 not know i was going to be debating today at all okay we have john velaquette chair five answers and if

08:37:30.860 the others disagree they respond with insults and hypocrisy w chair five john thank you for the

08:37:35.980 soup chat i do appreciate it we have riptor with a big 50 thank you man chair five chair one excuse

08:37:41.180 me women will never be in power because they orient their life around the idea of being comfortable

08:37:46.940 men instinctively embrace and normalize discomfort as opposed to running from it and the simple reason

08:37:52.780 is why they will always be on top okay from riptor your top

08:38:05.420 okay thank you for that oh we have uh another one coming in here uh chair one you're in for a big

08:38:11.260 awakening in life i don't think you're open to having your views changed chair five super super

08:38:15.820 based forget about chair one she's bitter much love brian and crucible no andrew tonight uh yet no andrew

08:38:21.980 tonight but i think we'll get a call in eventually i do have an interesting guest coming uh next sunday

08:38:27.740 he's gonna be making his first time appearance uh pretty big getting a pretty big following on youtube

08:38:33.820 he was on joe rogan uh pretty recently so we do have uh an interesting guest coming on june uh the next

08:38:40.380 sunday so be sure to tune in for that guys like the video for you enjoyed the stream if there are any more

08:38:45.340 coming through on we do have one more here from stream labs you can try to get a final one in here at

08:38:50.940 the end here streamlabs.com slash whatever ashley thank you ashley 30 dollars see one your smug

08:38:58.540 attitude tonight was disrespectful i meant what i said earlier in my house you would be so grounded

08:39:05.340 right after i dog walked you to your room her behavior would see the back of my hand and your

08:39:11.180 back of your hand would that's why you're something way worse from me because don't lay a hand on me you

08:39:15.820 freak oh ashley she called you freak you're gonna let her actually is a freak you i she dog walked me

08:39:22.780 to my room and ground me please kinky to be fair marin is six she is six foot tall i could beat your ass

08:39:30.860 and she's built out of muscle steel and oh god can we move on sorry what you don't i'm trying to i'm

08:39:40.620 trying to say something nice to marin at the end of the screen are you huh no he wasn't it does it's

08:39:46.220 not coming off that way i'm the the the context is this this lady was saying she's gonna beat up

08:39:52.060 marin and i'm like hold on marin's like she's six feet and you said she's made ice too that's a

08:39:57.500 compliment to be made up look at the double bicep on from marin there at the end fucking guns blazing at

08:40:03.900 the end here okay pasty george he says oh my god bro donated thirty dollars wait can you guys

08:40:10.940 roast me roast me for like 30 seconds you see george only wants to glaze you your feelings don't

08:40:17.020 matter and only come off as entitled and depressive you're feeling so matter constitutional right

08:40:22.620 i wasn't listening sorry pasty george i don't care he's had so many i heard it he just said so many

08:40:27.740 things it's like thank you pasty over and over again guys get a life final roast roast me

08:40:32.620 final roast roast me no they're gonna roast me no final roast roast me the girls they got they got

08:40:38.700 can i roast you nope i don't feel like i've been roasted at all they only said that you look like

08:40:44.700 they told me i need to shut the heck up and listen like oh so so me wait you want to roast you want

08:40:49.580 to be roasted yes i'm down to get roasted wait guys no i want to i've been bored we've talked about

08:40:56.220 her once the whole time yeah hello she says a couple things and it causes a stir fry when really i just

08:41:01.180 said we should have been talking about that more i know i was falling asleep for real

08:41:05.740 yeah sylvana left lynn uh oh lynn on your instagram bio it says you plead guilty to being fabulous

08:41:13.900 why not i love that i was just curious about it uh oh natalie natalia star i there's a couple tweets

08:41:21.180 you wrote i'm we're not gonna pull it up but i'm just gonna blast through them 30 tts guys if you want

08:41:25.580 to get in and roast me you wrote on your twitter is it weird that you're super into fingering men

08:41:33.180 oh

08:41:36.700 i like to know yeah excuse me

08:41:40.540 i like butt play i like disgusting i like to do a lot of things okay i like to look at

08:41:48.140 whoa okay calm down uh you said you're hopeless romantic after your

08:41:51.820 uh gang bang you want to be brought flowers okay something i would tweet you also said ladies how

08:41:59.580 do you feel about a man who doesn't eat poon poon gay question mark that's what you wrote you wrote

08:42:06.460 that you were just like that's yeah that's true

08:42:11.340 uh is it a deal breaker just show of hands is it a deal breaker if the guy won't go down on you

08:42:14.940 i mean it's disrespect deal breaker really lynn really lynn it's a deal breaker sort of yeah

08:42:23.340 if you never reciprocate i've just felt like i have to throw up for like two hours

08:42:29.340 well if you do do it on stream just kidding yeah i've had this cup empty next

08:42:34.940 nobody ever brought us more water you said what you're supposed to beckon at felicity you're supposed

08:42:39.420 to be like excuse me slave girl and go and get me some water and you have to do it in like that

08:42:45.980 posh please excuse me they're all too shy but like i want something to do uh you also wrote small

08:42:53.100 dick energy ramen noodle looking ass what does that mean ramen noodle looking at this when you have

08:43:00.300 soft and you can't get hard and you're like oh you're noodle but i i do take offense to this this

08:43:07.900 term small dick energy because i think you know look i think you don't take sorry sorry for

08:43:14.540 interrupting look i'll say i'll say why i'll say what look i think we shouldn't shame people for

08:43:19.900 things that are out of their control we shouldn't shame people no you don't get a control there's

08:43:23.740 a way to inject your your pp to make it bigger they have they have those surgeries yes my friend

08:43:28.220 has got that no yes there are there are those surgeries but i don't think men should get those

08:43:32.700 surgeries i'm also against like if a woman has a large labia i don't think that she should chop that

08:43:37.500 shit off uh i was about to say aren't you into that i thought you said that earlier she feels

08:43:42.060 amazing a big labia didn't you say that you like that i do that's why i'm saying women shouldn't

08:43:47.580 get the surgery to get rid of it because but besides just my own personal preferences with dating

08:43:54.300 i do think it is unfortunate and i'm being serious here i know sometimes i tend to joke but

08:43:59.340 it is an unfortunate state of affairs that and i want to caveat this some women do have like

08:44:06.220 discomfort with it and they can you know so they're but discomfort in the terms of physical

08:44:12.140 discomfort but a lot of women do it for purely cosmetic reasons and i don't think it's a good

08:44:17.980 state of affairs that people feel so self-conscious with their physical appearance anywhere on their

08:44:23.820 body that they feel the need to undergo dangerous and unnecessary unnecessary surgical procedures to

08:44:30.780 fix something that really shouldn't be an issue so uh but with the small dick energy thing i want to

08:44:37.100 run a couple uh terms by you what do you think about cavernous vagina energy what does that mean

08:44:45.500 well you know small dick energy so cavernous like a cavern oh like big vagina no like

08:44:52.220 the the the the vaginal canal is cavernous and we use this we use this as a word to insult women who

08:45:03.500 we felt were unacceptable in some way so small dick energy that hurts your feelings the small

08:45:09.420 dick energy hurts your feelings that's your personal problem right but i feel like i couldn't get a

08:45:13.980 what like men could not get away with like they call us all the time she got small titty she got

08:45:18.700 small titty energy small dick energy refers to lack of confidence lack of swagger like insecurity

08:45:26.060 it has nothing to do with their actual dick size exactly but you're saying big dick energy is like

08:45:30.700 some guy who's super confident really like knows what he wants and and is not afraid to go get it

08:45:36.700 small dick energy is like being a which you could say is like being a vagina

08:45:41.500 what but it's an insult that is okay whatever i'm not gonna linger on the look cavernous

08:45:46.300 vagina energy just we all use slur words differently depending on where you're from

08:45:51.420 i love that for you donated thirty dollars chair one even brian can easily toss you through the

08:45:58.220 window wait why even stop talking nonsense even okay what are you trying to say george i could

08:46:04.700 easily whip your ass but they should never put their hands on what they're saying next he's probably like

08:46:09.500 under five seven pasty george i'll tell you um okay big sass energy big sass energy donated thirty

08:46:17.420 it's more believable that rachel dolezal was black than that chair four will ever happily be in a

08:46:22.780 relationship insufferable okay we have pasty george yes pasty pasty george we'll get her back

08:46:31.580 we'll get we'll get really back five had more chances to speak on this panel because i wanted to

08:46:36.540 hear more about her non-degenerate world views instead we got the idiotic feminist ideologies

08:46:43.180 from the other chairs we'll get her back smh all right pasty george thank you man appreciate it

08:46:47.820 conflict-oriented donated thirty dollars don't feel sorry for me being stabbed she was an illegal

08:46:54.780 immigrant who stabbed me in the face whilst on my birthday corona bottle smirking face emoji bring me on

08:47:03.100 i'm base thank you man appreciate it all right all right guys uh that's it for the show if there's

08:47:09.340 any that like trickle through i'll get them but uh no wait what oh yeah yeah just stay seed for just a

08:47:17.500 sec guys while we run through this um wait do you do sex work like only fans or no i hold the camera

08:47:24.780 i produce and shoot content i work with sex workers i'm a sex work advocate a lot of my friends are

08:47:31.100 sex workers okay well uh i do like to always at the end of the show do a call to action by seeing if we

08:47:38.140 can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action would you consider stopping sex work

08:47:45.580 entirely tonight i stopped five years in 2019 so i just got back recently 20 in december um would you

08:47:55.180 consider stopping for what your soul you're meaning that i don't have a soul because i do this no you

08:48:04.220 do have a soul but your soul must be saved i have no okay i tried i tried that's that's i have a soul

08:48:12.140 and it's definitely enjoying everything i'm doing i do a lot of work i meditate i do breath work i do

08:48:17.820 i've done yoga retreats i've done ayahuasca i've done my work i mean like slay queen yeah slay i did

08:48:25.420 slay the dragon and i i know who i am and i know who i i know my worth and i will never get disrespected

08:48:33.580 by men ever again i've got i've dated poor guys i've dated rich guys i've dated guys who hit me i've

08:48:38.620 dated all that shit i i know i worked out and i will never settle for anything that is not what

08:48:43.740 i want and i will never do a laundry for a man okay perfect good to know good to know okay gg well

08:48:49.900 played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in

08:48:54.460 tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you were here with me wow i appreciate that thank

08:48:59.820 you to everyone who so generously super chats donates and supports the show this show is viewer

08:49:06.860 supported we couldn't do it without you guys so thank you guys so much you guys are freaking

08:49:11.740 legends you guys are he's a brave and all of you he's a pioneer and thank you everybody who watches

08:49:18.380 of course we will be live again sunday 5 p.m pacific we've got a very interesting first time guest

08:49:24.540 appearance uh sunday any girls who want to be on the show you can dm out whatever on instagram

08:49:29.180 if you can make it to santa barbara uh and also if you guys need help with um laundering your money

08:49:38.700 lynn does offer nope that's against the ethical rule lynn does not offer i don't money laundering

08:49:47.660 i do honest services only honest work she has no complaints with the california bar are you licensed

08:49:54.540 in any other california just california okay all right i do federal too reach out to lynn if you

08:50:01.660 need any you know if any criminal defense nope i don't do criminal defense she will defend you if

08:50:08.300 you committed any murders in the los angeles area she only she exclusively defends i'm just kidding okay

08:50:15.260 all right i would need to make a clarification yes if you need any help with uh optimizing your

08:50:21.660 financial position in terms of maximizing your tax savings either through corporate restructuring

08:50:27.420 or through other tax planning strategies you can reach out to me or if you're in trouble with irs or

08:50:32.620 franchise tax board i'm also the person to go to but right now there's no spin-off series uh better

08:50:38.860 call in but hopefully in a couple years that's good there you go um i actually probably need to ask

08:50:45.740 you a question about some tax stuff after the show so okay gotta retainer agreement okay lynn all

08:50:51.900 right uh pasty george final thing pasty george donated that's a nice message thank you i want

08:50:56.940 to thank the whole panel for showing up to this episode thank you brother have a good night

08:51:01.980 yo thank you for having us oh sevens oh sevens in the chat i want to see it blast in the chat oh sevens in

08:51:08.940 the chat i hope you guys have a wonderful night oh bro fucking daniel okay pull it over chair one

08:51:15.660 do you really hate men that much that you're that jaded also looking at your hands you don't wrangle

08:51:19.020 a thing except your dumb views you lucky andrew is not there ma'am daniel freaking of course an

08:51:24.140 australian is gonna just we were ending it on a good note he's got to come in uh andrew is not there

08:51:28.780 also one v one debate with chair one and miss wilson would you debate his wife no i don't all right

08:51:33.580 okay all right fair enough okay thank you guys like the video please and let me just double check

08:51:39.660 okay we're all good oh seven's in the chat good night guys we will see you guys next time good night

Whatever Podcast - June 03, 2025

Jubilee Girl Says She Is A MlSANDRlST？! She DEBATES Brian？! Lawyer Boss Babe？! ｜ Dating Talk #245

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