Whatever Podcast - Warren Smith! Is Chivalry DEAD？! Age Gap HYPOCRISY (She Is 32, Boyfriend Is 24)？! BASED Alina RETURNS! ｜ Dating Talk #246

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00:04:16.480 so please tell us your name age occupation where you're from in education go ahead hi my name is

00:04:22.420 liana i am in event management and i teach group fitness i'm from los angeles and i'm 28 years old

00:04:29.560 all right welcome what about you my name is crystal i'm from the netherlands this is my first time in the

00:04:35.680 usa and i really love it here already uh i work in the fitness industry and uh i post on social media

00:04:43.440 actually make content and i'm 32 years old 32 you're from the netherlands you said what part uh it's on

00:04:51.420 west coast the hague the hague the hague yeah how do you say it in den hague den hague uh i've been

00:04:59.940 to i've been there actually it's nice you've been to the hague as well uh yeah it was there's like a

00:05:04.940 beach nearby right yeah exactly yes i was there it was it was lovely i've been to amsterdam like three

00:05:12.280 times okay love it's one of my i don't typically like big cities but i really actually quite like it

00:05:17.480 so beautiful all right um and you're you're from there like you were born there okay gotcha what

00:05:24.800 about you um my name is casey rivera i'm 26 years old i'm a server and bartender and i currently live

00:05:32.040 in los angeles all right and you're are you from la or i'm born and raised in la gotcha um actually

00:05:38.600 really quick going back uh any education like college or university yeah i went to pasadena city

00:05:44.300 college got my a a um associates of arts to transfer and then i transferred to csun um which

00:05:51.260 is cal state northridge yeah didn't didn't finish what were you uh studying communications com okay

00:05:58.560 gotcha any college or anything uh yeah i did um yeah it's called a university of applied sciences

00:06:06.080 and afterwards i did university but i didn't finish it what were you studying when you were

00:06:11.000 at university um anthropo social anthropology and sociology got it and then any school for you yeah

00:06:19.580 i'd started actually at santa barbara city college and then transferred to csun for communications and

00:06:24.240 journalism gotcha okay uh your intro please uh chelsea i'm originally from nebraska currently residing

00:06:30.420 in virginia um i work in transportation we specialize in agricultural hauling um and i'm 32 education some

00:06:39.940 college never completed gotcha 32 what were you studying when you were in college um i bounced around

00:06:47.460 i didn't really know what i wanted to do so all right my name is alina i'm 20 years old i'm from the

00:06:54.700 city of panza in russia i currently live in philadelphia uh and i'm a student all right what

00:07:02.840 are you studying business and information systems all right welcome back what about you hello my name

00:07:10.500 is katrina i'm 19 years old i am born raised and currently located in south florida i am a full-time

00:07:17.000 college student studying for my bachelor's degree in marketing and i also currently just started

00:07:21.920 uh building up a brand on social media for political and pop culture commentary all right

00:07:28.040 welcome my name is felicity i'm 19 from santa barbara and i study business all right what about

00:07:36.320 you warren smith 38 today it's my birthday hold on let me i gotta play something for that

00:07:42.600 all right guys it's it's warren's birthday you got you guys got to show him a little bit of love in the

00:07:49.960 chat maybe we'll get him we can do a birthday some sort of birthday pop we'll do champagne maybe a

00:07:55.960 cake pop you like pizza what do you like sure man we're gonna do it all we're gonna do it all uh happy

00:08:01.600 birthday uh so you just turned 38 right just turned 38 and uh where are you from i'm from massachusetts

00:08:08.080 all right boston just outside just outside boston and uh education master's degree uh what uh what

00:08:16.160 university and emerson college video field production you said uh film production video

00:08:21.560 field production okay gotcha gotcha and what's your current occupation i do content creation now full

00:08:28.100 time on youtube all right rock and roll and uh your the name of your channel is just warren smith

00:08:35.620 secret scholars society okay and uh what can you explain that what is the secret scholars society

00:08:42.280 what's that came from my thesis project it's kind of a long story it's about during world war ii

00:08:48.020 the role that harvard played in smuggling over technology from england okay so kind of inspired

00:08:55.840 the name got it rock and roll welcome everybody we're gonna go around the table once more what is

00:09:01.540 your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:09:06.560 relationship you've ever been in go ahead i am currently single i've been single for almost a year

00:09:12.100 now my longest serious relationship was just about two years with my last my most recent ex gotcha so

00:09:20.040 the one that ended a year ago was the two-year relationship also your longest who broke up with

00:09:24.260 who it was actually i know people hate when people say this but it was mutual it was mutual we decided

00:09:29.660 that we worked better as friends we started as friends i think just the romance kind of died a little

00:09:34.740 bit and it just became more like a friendly relationship so we just decided that it's probably for the best

00:09:40.880 but we still get along and we're still friends when's the last time you you still hang out with him or

00:09:45.880 yeah when's the last time you saw him in person yesterday question for you though from the point

00:09:52.780 of when the relationship ended there's a clear cut right yeah it wasn't like sometimes people do

00:09:58.760 these breakups and there's like a a lingering you know like a trail of continuity but you're broken up

00:10:06.600 but uh you have not hooked up with him in the past year one month after we broke up we hooked up

00:10:13.300 but since then no okay so that would that be the clean that's the clean break then i would say so

00:10:19.300 maybe one month after yeah i'd say one month after and then i think it's just i feel like everyone just

00:10:23.000 needs to get out of their system like one more time and then you're like okay i'm good at least

00:10:26.280 maybe not a breakup a breakup encounter um you've been single for one year are you uh are there any guys in

00:10:34.360 the picture currently not currently no um i've definitely been on the dating websites

00:10:38.500 trying i don't know i i'm a little too picky i think i think i need to you've been on dating apps

00:10:45.060 yeah currently on them don't love them you're currently on them yeah which apps are you on raya

00:10:50.240 and hinge ryan hinge and have you been on them since the breakup or i think i i signed up like three

00:10:56.580 months after i just wanted to give myself some space and then i was like let me just see what's out

00:11:00.720 there so so there's no guys in the picture no not seriously no uh have you uh has there been

00:11:07.720 any guys you've dated uh like situationship or anything in the past year not in the past year

00:11:13.820 no nothing no no guys i swear nothing i'm i'm busy i have like two jobs a little bit a little bit

00:11:22.320 busy gotcha and so you've been celibate for a year yeah okay all right gotcha um okay ever had a

00:11:30.700 roster i think in college like max three people maybe uh relationship status yeah i'm currently

00:11:38.500 in a relationship and my longest relationship was four years all right how long is your current

00:11:43.620 relationship uh going to two years two years the four-year relationship who broke up with who

00:11:48.480 i would say me you broke up with him yeah okay all right and so you've been seeing this guy for

00:11:56.520 two years uh what was the reason for the breakup of the four-year relationship uh

00:12:02.320 i found it a very controlling relationship and i couldn't continue it he was controlling yeah how so

00:12:09.260 um well uh he started making all the decisions for me in my life and i think yeah that feels like

00:12:17.440 controlling to me was uh that towards because you were dating him for four years how soon into the

00:12:22.140 relationship did he start making all the decisions or some of the decisions after a half year or a

00:12:28.160 year or so okay yeah what what were some of the things that he was doing that was controlling

00:12:32.560 uh checking my bank account uh yeah i mean all my past uh it's um pretty much okay to have each

00:12:40.520 other's uh passwords you say if you want to log into your social media accounts okay but basically

00:12:46.020 yeah controlling it everything got it controlling everything okay and uh would he also maybe say

00:12:54.780 you can't hang out with this certain person or yeah you can't and i would listen you can't wear this

00:13:01.380 you can't go there that sort of stuff or okay you said you're uh are you religious at all uh yeah

00:13:09.040 are you christian or yeah i would call myself was he christian yeah okay gotcha uh what denomination

00:13:15.880 catholic both of you were catholic okay gotcha all right what about you um i'm currently in a

00:13:22.780 relationship and uh my longest relationship was three years i think how long have you been in your

00:13:30.480 current relationship six months six months all right the three-year relationship who broke up with

00:13:35.220 who so he was breaking up with me but then i found out he was cheating on me and he was trying to

00:13:41.960 keep it mutual like a mutual breakup and stay in contact so yeah and then i kind of just cut that

00:13:49.820 off immediately well he broke up with me i guess okay plain and simple so that he could not cheat on

00:13:55.940 you i guess well no he was cheating on me so it was so funny we were breaking up and then um for some

00:14:04.160 reason because i was at his parents house at the time and i had my stuff over so then i started packing

00:14:08.800 my stuff and i was like let me just go through the ipad i went through the ipad and then it turns out

00:14:13.820 that he was sexting another girl in the same house that i was like sleeping with his family and so yeah

00:14:20.480 good times fun fun fun three years nice all right and uh how old were you when you were in the three

00:14:29.920 relationship um so we started 2019 how old am i 26 how old are you

00:14:40.180 um so 20 i think i was no i was 21 yeah gotcha okay got it all right what about you uh i'm in a

00:14:52.560 relationship my longest relationship was five years um i think that covers both of those questions

00:14:59.380 i'm gonna say something your current relationship you've been in it for five years no oh okay longest

00:15:05.360 relationship five years yeah how long have you the current one a year oh one year okay gotcha

00:15:09.920 all right five-year relationship who broke up with who uh i broke up with him you broke up him okay why

00:15:15.700 is that uh we started dating when we were in high school and we moved in together and i was paying

00:15:23.060 all of our bills and he just kind of refused to get a job so i had kind of had enough and i found an

00:15:29.060 engagement ring and i was like i can't live like this for the rest of my life okay uh got it what about

00:15:35.800 you i'm in a relationship it's my longest and i love him how long have you uh been dating

00:15:45.580 four years for four years okay four years you guys engaged yet or what's going on no not yet

00:15:54.220 i'm fighting for it though you're you're fighting for it what does that mean i'm fighting for that

00:15:59.800 ring you're fighting for the ring uh what does that mean i'm trying to prove myself to him that i can be

00:16:07.300 a good wife and good mother to his children and that it's worth the commitment has that not been

00:16:14.140 established yet um again i'm fighting for it so the fight is ongoing yes there's an ongoing

00:16:23.840 so he has doubts about your ability to do those things well that's not a question for me that's

00:16:31.440 more of a question for him but all i know is that you mean the guy you've been dating for four years

00:16:36.500 you haven't had the conversation with him or oh yeah we've had the conversation yeah okay he wants me

00:16:41.880 to prove myself to him which so like two weeks ago he was like hey i'm not sure about you

00:16:46.500 uh not two weeks ago i wouldn't say that so maybe he has something in the works and you just don't know

00:16:52.840 it exactly okay um all right that's cool four years so he's not sold on you or i mean but he's

00:17:04.840 with you again that's not a question for me i don't know the answer to that yeah well you guys you guys

00:17:09.140 are both still finishing up college right yeah yeah all right what about you um i'm currently single i

00:17:15.440 have been for about five months now and my longest relationship was just over a year was that the

00:17:20.960 one that ended five months ago no that was back in high school that year-long relationship how long

00:17:26.340 was the uh one that ended five months ago it was just two months two months who broke up with who

00:17:31.380 uh in this recent one he broke up with me okay and uh the one year relationship who broke up with who

00:17:39.300 i broke up with him broke up with him why did you break up with him it became very toxic and we were

00:17:45.420 very codependent on each other and there was a lot of pressure on me to be somebody that i could not

00:17:52.020 be somebody that he wanted me to be that i couldn't be and then uh the this other relationship

00:17:58.500 who it was him who broke up with you yes in the recent one why is that uh loss of feelings loss of

00:18:05.140 feelings okay good times uh what about you i'm single i've been single for like two weeks my longest

00:18:12.520 relationship was almost two years all right uh warren what about you i am engaged off the market

00:18:21.740 settled congrats yes as the old man here i'm happy to speak honestly although about my experiences if i

00:18:30.260 can provide a sure male perspective sure uh how long have you been uh dating your current two years

00:18:38.120 two years gotcha and how long have you guys been engaged we were talking about it for a while

00:18:43.260 it's that's one of the conversations we can have around whether or not to get the government involved

00:18:49.260 in marriage i think there's an interesting sure dialogue there that i that's one of the things

00:18:55.160 that's been holding me up it's like how do we go about do we need to get the government involved

00:18:58.900 why you know so you're thinking of just getting a or having a ceremony or something yeah but not

00:19:06.360 going to the courthouse and getting a marriage license and all that no it's the most legally

00:19:11.640 significant thing you can do except for dying you're entering a massive contract that i don't

00:19:17.380 think most people understand the impacts of and these past experience i'm referring to i came close once

00:19:24.340 before younger and i learned a lot from that experience so there are lessons to be learned and that

00:19:31.860 goes to prenups and things that that i have an interesting perspective on that it all ties into

00:19:39.140 i guess the legality conversation sure but and uh you said you've been with your current uh partner

00:19:45.180 for two years yes uh what's the longest relationship you've ever had oh man i don't

00:19:49.780 i don't know don't know there's been too many there's just been too many um i'm gonna try and

00:19:57.600 be i don't this is a new environment for sure yeah i don't usually do let's just say so i'm going to

00:20:04.660 speak honestly as best i can that's still so i don't know like five years maybe i guess

00:20:10.600 yeah sounds good we have a chat coming in here from desert joe donated two hundred dollars thank

00:20:18.420 you man appreciate it being a fan of warren for a few years before he got canceled love his takes on

00:20:23.860 various topics based glad to see him live and expanding his reach happy birthday warren

00:20:31.020 thank you desert joe thank you for the message man appreciate it he says you got uh canceled i guess

00:20:37.340 what what's is that true is and what's the story there i just in a way um i was teaching

00:20:42.880 at a high school and a video of me about after i met that girl actually which is interesting

00:20:49.340 i'm near current yes you're the one i've settled with yeah correct about a month later a video of

00:20:57.200 me teaching i had uploaded to my teaching portfolio on youtube and elon musk tweeted it out on x and it

00:21:02.860 kind of went crazy and literally changed my life like overnight in a very strange way

00:21:08.100 and i saw this door open i was like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity i'm making very little

00:21:13.420 money as a teacher my whole life i was describing how my whole background is wanting to connect with

00:21:18.160 an audience through video suddenly had that opportunity so i was like i'm just going to run

00:21:22.200 as far as i can see how far i can get and that the school didn't like that which i in certain ways

00:21:27.640 i can understand they viewed it as a liability fired me that became a story within itself and

00:21:32.840 it's led me to meet and sit down it's like jordan peterson joe rogan some some of the people that

00:21:38.140 i most respect so it's been quite an adventure and now i'm here with you there you go there you go

00:21:43.700 and uh i think i saw the video in question you were like having a conversation with a student

00:21:50.400 yeah and just your socratic method kind of asking questions yeah that's my favorite thing to do it was

00:21:56.800 about jk rowling a student asked if my view of harry potter has changed given jk rowling's bigoted

00:22:03.040 opinion and we just had a five minute exchange and i didn't really think it was that stand out or

00:22:08.780 anything but you can't explain these i don't know why it did what it did but yeah yeah cool cool and

00:22:15.940 maybe for like the panelists and the viewers who aren't familiar it was about like jk rowling and some

00:22:22.280 of the like trans comments she's made is that yes yeah the claim was she's transphobic and i just

00:22:26.760 asked for evidence as you described with the socratic method which i wasn't consciously doing

00:22:31.480 the socratic method right that's my favorite thing to do is just have conversations like this and

00:22:35.240 rock and roll and were you like let go from your job or what i was fired oh you were fired because

00:22:41.980 of the video because of the video yeah and the conversation yeah yeah a few months after that

00:22:46.160 yeah yeah crazy wild wild stuff um we have another chat coming in here from uh one sec here we got

00:22:55.220 just gerald and he writes warren better keep it g or chat's gonna regulate regulate okay you know this

00:23:04.540 you know the song reference here uh thank you man uh warren g regular regulate yeah yeah there you go

00:23:11.360 here we go we got uh well done just just gerald i loved it thank you man appreciate it thank you so

00:23:17.840 much for the uh super chat really appreciate it all right we're gonna just dive right into uh some of

00:23:22.540 my pre-show notes here uh we're gonna start with let's see one sec guys

00:23:31.280 we have uh is it liana yes or okay i got liana yeah you said after dating someone for two months

00:23:42.080 you guys went on a trip to bali together and he got your name tattooed on him correct did you get

00:23:48.400 matching or was it just i got c'est la vie

00:23:50.640 and how long did you uh how long were you dating him after so that was my most recent oh that was the

00:24:01.060 uh we ended up dating for two years the two-year but we were only dating for two months

00:24:05.060 and decided to go to bali i told i was like you do not have to get my name tattooed i actually advise

00:24:10.440 you probably don't um yeah but i kind of liked it i was definitely like sure i didn't get his back so

00:24:17.540 i mean it's he still has it he still has oh yeah oh the guy you you still hang out with him yeah he

00:24:24.120 still has the tattoo do you think he still has feelings for you no he's got your tattoo i mean i'll never

00:24:30.220 forget me until he gets it covered up so i was just gonna say is he talked about getting it covered

00:24:34.100 up oh he said he has to because i always say i'm like oh you're definitely seeing other people and

00:24:37.840 he's like i literally have your name on my thigh so now i don't wait how long ago you broke up about

00:24:44.320 a year ago and he still has the name wow maybe he does still love me you guys talk still like

00:24:51.980 regularly or kind of regularly yeah you guys hung out yesterday yeah we hung out yesterday oh that's the

00:24:56.560 one from yesterday but i always roast him for it i'm like yeah you still have my name tatted oh my

00:25:00.800 goodness i mean he made that i told him not to get it that's is there like a heart around it or is it

00:25:05.920 just the name it's just my name just text yeah just liana and has he i mean you guys been separated for

00:25:11.660 a year has he dated other women um yeah definitely like seriously and like has he told you okay i was on

00:25:19.240 this date with this girl and she saw the tattoo like has he relayed to you stories about the tattoo

00:25:26.460 as it relates to dating new and other women i haven't really asked it is on his thigh so maybe

00:25:32.240 as long as his pants stay on like he doesn't have to tell people but yeah i don't know i haven't asked

00:25:38.380 that's a good question that maybe i should ask well i would give my i'll give my perspective on this

00:25:43.360 if i'm gonna be dating a girl and she has another man's name tattooed on her i don't think i could

00:25:51.700 date her like i she could be like he's dead i haven't talked to him in 10 years i'd be like

00:25:59.040 and you gotta get i can't i can't do it where where it's on the thigh yes like in front like in his

00:26:06.700 like on his thigh i suppose like the the location would also impact it too like if it was like

00:26:11.500 on the pubic like like on the hip on the hip or on the butt oh no way i should have told him to 0.92

00:26:18.900 get it on his butt that would have been funny oh you wait would he have done it i mean yeah he was 0.96

00:26:24.120 pretty in love with me at that time so maybe two months wait two months in it's a red flag yeah i 0.96

00:26:28.320 don't know guys we're not together anymore do you have do you have a tattoo of your any tattoos i have

00:26:34.820 one tattoo and it's north carolina north north carolina yeah north carolina okay there you go

00:26:39.780 rock and roll my home state uh warren when you were single do you think would it have been a red

00:26:44.240 flag for you if you were going on a date with a girl or interested in pursuing something with a

00:26:48.680 girl and she had a tattoo of another dude's name any name no offense to anyone if anyone has a tattoo 1.00

00:26:56.380 with a name but i i just think it's tacky because like how would arrive what caused you to arrive at

00:27:02.520 that thought process you're not thinking like ahead to where this could potentially go sideways and

00:27:07.600 this is a tattoo so it just causes you to question the wisdom of the person hence why i got c'est la vie

00:27:13.640 well you were the you were the smart one we were getting tattoos and i was like yeah i'm gonna get

00:27:20.020 c'est la vie he's like i'm gonna get your name what does that mean it's like that's life

00:27:23.560 something like that who who here has tattoos show of hand show of hands so warren boom boom no tattoos

00:27:33.260 okay all right rock and roll um would you find it objectionable those of you who do have tattoos

00:27:40.820 if a guy didn't want to date you because of your tattoo or tattoos no my current relationship he

00:27:49.860 doesn't like the fact that i have tattoos so i haven't gotten any more since we've been together

00:27:55.160 okay okay and you guys been together for you said what a year yeah okay yeah um gentlemen do not

00:28:05.180 uh after two months in bali or whatever do not tattoo don't don't tattoo a woman i feel i imagine

00:28:13.620 that would be an issue though for any women who are uh like dating him i don't know maybe not

00:28:18.920 maybe not i would run for the hill yeah i would not like that and well and to double down on that

00:28:25.160 though it's not just that he has the tattoo he still hangs out with you i think that'll be the

00:28:30.160 bigger yeah like i could see okay whatever it was in the past but like he has the tattoo and he's like

00:28:36.720 kicking it with her all the time and i believe you that it's just platonic or whatever but like

00:28:40.940 from the girl's perspective she could be like no i'm a jealousy thing for sure i 100 yeah i 100% agree

00:28:48.540 like if i if the roles were reversed and i was the girl that he was dating and he had you know i

00:28:53.500 probably wouldn't be interested but sure none of my business i don't know well moving on you said

00:28:59.360 that you refuse to date a man who hasn't moved out of his parents or slash lived on his own or with

00:29:05.380 roommates before yeah uh okay i who here agrees with that like would you would any any of you here if

00:29:12.820 you sign a lot of you are in relationships if you're single though would you date a guy who is

00:29:17.140 currently living with his parents mom dad whatever yes you would it depends on how old he is because

00:29:24.380 i mean any age my brother lived with our family throughout college and then now he has his own

00:29:31.060 condo like and he's relatively young well i suppose you're uh 19 right it's not at 19 it's definitely

00:29:37.280 especially during college it's not uncommon to still be living with your parents so let's say when

00:29:42.200 you're uh 25 no by that point i would expect some more independence okay so it'd be a complete deal

00:29:50.680 breaker it would be it would yeah i would hope that he's on the right track to uh getting his own

00:29:56.380 place moving out becoming independent in that sense and make sure of it like like i would want it to be

00:30:03.140 sure sure so anybody would know wouldn't i would oh you would absolutely is that more common in the

00:30:11.360 netherlands not sure but if he shows he's a productive person he's working hard for his future

00:30:16.100 and he has plans to move out and absolutely got it okay i heard an interesting quote the other day

00:30:22.260 it went something along the lines of a woman is more likely to date a guy who lives with his wife

00:30:28.540 than who lives with his mom oh god that's so terrible any thoughts on that it's true that's

00:30:36.140 definitely true because yeah when sometimes a lot of the time when women see a man who's already

00:30:41.520 married they think like what is so special about him that he's already married and so they will kind

00:30:48.200 of want him i'm not saying that for myself but for others for some other people uh and some women if

00:30:55.880 they see a man living with his parents they think like he's not established enough to be in a

00:31:01.180 relationship with her like she wants him to have her move in and have her um like join a part of his

00:31:07.740 life and not be with someone who still lives with his parents but i think it's fine before marriage to

00:31:13.700 live with your parents it also depends on age too okay there you go can i jump in real fast i personally

00:31:21.580 just don't feel like you can marry someone without living with them first coming from somebody who's 1.00

00:31:27.220 personally i know cultures and different people believe in different things but personally for me

00:31:31.360 i've lived with two previous boyfriends and you don't really know somebody until you've lived with

00:31:36.480 them and see their living habits like you may think that you spend every day with them but there's

00:31:42.340 going to be little things that bother you and it's whether that's livable for you or not i mean

00:31:46.460 there's obviously things to look past but i don't think you truly know someone until you like you

00:31:51.880 see how they handle bills they you see how they pick up around the house like it's just little things

00:31:57.240 you know like them living in a space because that that's when the walls really break down and yeah i

00:32:02.540 don't know that's just my take is i just i could never i would definitely live with somebody before

00:32:06.800 marrying them as well what were the deal breakers for you then that you experienced

00:32:11.500 financial responsibility um understanding that i mean that also goes back on like i can't really

00:32:19.260 date somebody or live with somebody unless they've lived on their own before and understand the

00:32:22.840 importance of paying your bills on time and like having good credit and these things do matter and

00:32:28.280 it's you know if you're going out to an expensive dinner but you're like six days late on rent and you

00:32:33.560 can't pay for like it's it's priorities i think it shows a lot of responsibility and dependence and

00:32:38.060 priorities may i jump in yeah i totally agree with you as well because there are individuals that

00:32:43.080 just they spend their money irresponsibly they might spend it on like a new fancy sports car when they

00:32:48.240 could have spent put that towards uh their own place of living right it just depends on how you

00:32:53.760 allocate your money and i understand you know economically it's still kind of challenging with how

00:32:58.200 things are um but and i do think it is a cultural difference as well here and in other countries as well but

00:33:05.080 i think it really depends it tells you a lot like if somebody lives on their own how how smart they

00:33:10.240 are with their money how considerate they are with what they have and how they allocate their money

00:33:14.460 appropriately i'm going to go ahead and add to that too because my five-year relationship that was the

00:33:19.620 biggest issue is you know he's going out and he wants to spend money on x y and z and then buys an

00:33:24.600 engagement ring and i come home and i'm like well where's the money for rent why am i sitting here 0.85

00:33:28.160 busting my ass and you can't even afford that going back to your notes you also wrote that 0.95

00:33:34.560 you need someone who's somewhat financially stable responsible and independent you said you've been 1.00

00:33:39.640 stuck paying an ex's rent and bills in the past and you'll never do that do that again uh was that

00:33:50.060 the two-year guy who you're paying his rent there was a period of time where i was helping him pay his

00:33:55.480 rent um we get along now and things have been smushed but i think that that's a big thing where

00:34:01.120 it's i understand like losing a job and things get tough but i just think that moving forward i've

00:34:07.240 realized now that i need to um put my foot down a little bit better about that i tend to just want

00:34:14.800 to help people but like paying someone's bills and rent is not fun and how much was his rent his portion

00:34:21.460 was like 15 1600 oh you guys were living together i see okay okay so living together yeah living

00:34:29.280 together so that's what it was is like we were under the same lease so it's not like i was just paying

00:34:33.020 his rent his separate apartment like we lived together and unfortunately like he lost his job so

00:34:37.800 i was helping pick that up um but i think sometimes people can i don't know i just think that that moving

00:34:45.520 forward i just need to make sure that like i'm not getting taken advantage of i'm not saying that he

00:34:49.760 necessarily did but i just think in the future like i don't know i just need somebody who's used

00:34:56.100 to the financial burden and has a savings for when situations like that happen like obviously things

00:35:01.120 happen people lose jobs and you know life isn't always predictable but maybe just having a backup

00:35:06.400 plan so that you're not always just leaning on the person yeah was he employed what was that was he

00:35:13.060 employed so he he lost his job and that's when i started yeah so supporting him but i just think

00:35:18.500 as i get older and i'm looking for somebody to be with forever like of course you're going to help

00:35:22.100 each other out but it can not become a habit or something like that what was the period of time

00:35:27.980 uh that you were i guess fully supporting him by paying for rent and stuff say like three or four

00:35:33.500 months okay and were you frustrated by that i think yeah it gets a little frustrating after a couple

00:35:41.240 months in because you know he's of course looking for jobs and i understand it's not that easy but

00:35:47.020 so you want to be supportive as a as a girlfriend and as a support system but i'm not the richest person

00:35:53.760 in the world too so like it definitely just takes like what's the word i'm looking for it just it weighs

00:35:59.480 heavily a little bit after a while and you can't help but to feel a little frustrated even if

00:36:03.060 they're trying their best it's just something that i can't sure i'm not your mom sure yeah sorry it's hard

00:36:09.240 puts pressure on a person when you have to feel like you have to take care of another

00:36:13.500 um so yeah i can agree on that but i also probably feel like maybe he also felt frustrated because as

00:36:20.160 a man you want to feel like you can support and be you know the breadwinner and stuff so i'm sure

00:36:24.400 like it probably didn't help his own personal masculinity as well to feel like i had to support

00:36:31.240 was he looking for a job yeah no i know that for a fact because i saw him going to interviews and he

00:36:36.840 did a lot of like at home interviews but it's just i can't help but to be frustrated when like

00:36:42.060 i have to like money is such a touchy subject so it's it's difficult but it's also like you can't

00:36:47.360 help but eventually feel annoyed like please how long did it take before you guys started to move

00:36:52.400 in together after a year yeah so after a year we moved in too weren't there already kind of signs

00:36:58.080 maybe that he wasn't good with his money or anything not off the bat not necessarily um

00:37:05.200 we would go on really nice dates and really nice restaurants but i just felt like maybe he

00:37:10.760 had it like that like maybe it was just you know did he used to pay for all of the dates

00:37:16.680 at the beginning yes for the first few months um i always feel like eventually like i'm going to

00:37:23.500 want to pitch into like i'm always or there's there's been dates that i've fully taken care of

00:37:27.680 but at the beginning he took care of all of them and then obviously once we moved in together it was

00:37:32.100 a lot of split finances of course until i needed to help but um yeah no i paid for dates he's paid

00:37:38.660 for dates but i'd say the majority he paid for to answer your question all right we're going to move

00:37:44.620 on to the rest of the notes here we you know we're going to go to alina here for a bit uh alina uh you

00:37:51.640 said fem cells exist we i think we debated it on that a little bit last show is your position still

00:37:57.800 the same um you know i've done some growing some maturing you know my frontal lobe developed a little

00:38:05.220 bit and i think now the term like incel and fem cell it doesn't make sense because anyone can just if

00:38:14.300 they're so desperate you can pay someone a lot of money to sleep with you so can incel or fem cell even 1.00

00:38:21.080 exist at all because you can pay some you can save up the money if you're so desperate and pay someone

00:38:25.720 well i wouldn't even as it relates to fem cell but i wouldn't even grant that to incels what do you

00:38:32.800 mean like grant that like i wouldn't say okay so yes incels could purchase a prostitute but i don't 0.76

00:38:40.680 think that's really getting at what they mean when they say they're involuntarily celibate like you

00:38:44.700 wouldn't count uh prostitution like paying for for a prostitute as an exception to that no i i wouldn't

00:38:51.660 i wouldn't allow that as like a an exception either for fem cell or or incel but it seems like it apply

00:38:58.400 more to incel but uh it it kind of relates more so to a non-transactional although some people might argue

00:39:08.540 that any sort of you know relationship dynamic could has transactional components to them but in

00:39:15.580 this case it's it's just like uh explicitly transactional um i think this more so applies

00:39:23.960 to just the degree to which you can get sex absent like a transactional nature of the relationship

00:39:30.840 so like a genuine uh a genuine sexual desire and i would say prostitutes don't have a genuine sexual 0.80

00:39:39.360 desire to sleep with their paid clients i suppose it's it's logically possible that they a prostitute 1.00

00:39:46.800 could enjoy the transactional sexual encounter but um i think it's you have to remove the transactional

00:39:55.620 component from it so but in this case though what i think we disagreed on before um well i guess

00:40:02.360 removing whether incels or fem cells could just hire a prostitute which they can 0.99

00:40:08.860 removing that argument do you think fem cells can exist i think that even if you try so hard and after

00:40:17.600 a certain time you find someone you find that guy who is willing to sleep with you that up until that

00:40:23.460 point you would be a fem cell even if it takes you a few years or a few months for those for that time

00:40:28.600 you would consider yourself a fem cell right because you're struggling to find someone to sleep with 0.99

00:40:35.440 whereas a woman who would not consider herself that could just would be confident that she can find 0.93

00:40:41.580 someone right away i mean it's kind of a brainwad discussion anyway but it's i think fem cells could 1.00

00:40:48.840 exist for that time wait it was your prompt it was literally your prompt like six months ago

00:40:55.320 the the what the prefrontal cortex developed you said okay so you back then six months ago you were

00:41:01.440 just brain rot yes six months ago i was pretty brain rot but okay what's a non-brain rot convo

00:41:07.880 you want to have then oh i don't know it'll come up oh it'll come up well then i'll quickly address

00:41:12.040 this then move it on yeah i mean i just think ultimately like you could take like a really

00:41:16.820 unattractive woman and a really unattractive man and you throw both of them on a dating app 0.99

00:41:21.720 and i think that really unattractive guy is going to struggle like substantially to get anything and

00:41:27.180 i think the really unattractive woman if she makes herself sexually available she can get sexual access 1.00

00:41:32.960 within a couple days yeah absolutely i never disagreed with that like i never said that uh the idea of a

00:41:40.740 fem cell or the concept of a fem cell is as common as a male incel that wasn't my point i'm just i was

00:41:48.160 just saying that they could exist like you're saying logically it's possible that a fem cell could

00:41:53.240 like she would be just even if it's for a temporary time a temporary time even if it's for a temporary 0.88

00:41:59.400 time she would consider herself a fem cell in that time because she's like oh damn like i'm struggling 1.00

00:42:04.380 to find someone i'm a fem cell and then she's like oh boom i found this guy i'm no longer a fem cell

00:42:10.000 but i think there's a like fem cell i think it means they can't find a man of the appropriate

00:42:18.880 standard to have sex with whereas like incels literally cannot like they can't even get anybody 1.00

00:42:28.000 even if they lower their standards yeah so i think women struggle to get relationships sometimes 1.00

00:42:33.840 but like i don't think that this necessarily means they're like they have trouble procuring like a

00:42:39.640 one-night stand or something you can be really attractive and still struggle to get a relationship

00:42:44.360 right but this would make you uh not a fem cell i'm not saying yeah it wouldn't make you because

00:42:49.860 fem cell celibate it relates to celibacy strictly sex so anyways you say it's brain rot so i mean if you're

00:42:55.460 not if there's nothing to push back on i'm not gonna linger on it but um warren what do you think

00:43:00.240 about do you feel like you're struggling to find oh me no me no do you know girls that are i knew a

00:43:08.100 girl who um she was struggling to like she was going out to places where she could meet guys and she was

00:43:14.520 struggling to get those guys to stick around not just for a relationship but also for like possible

00:43:20.400 hookups as well like she was down for something like a one-night stand or um like 0.96

00:43:25.440 friends with benefits and um i was with her the one time she met a guy and then later on a few

00:43:32.700 days later they were going to meet and he flaked on her and he said that he was homosexual and so

00:43:39.420 it she said it's not the first time that she had an experience like that so is there a pattern there

00:43:45.180 what do you think is causing that uh for her i honestly have not maybe i don't know her well enough

00:43:51.860 to know that there could be some type of underlying problem that could be causing that

00:43:55.780 i think you know women can get laid easier than men much easier i agree with that even if she's 1.00

00:44:03.300 unattractive but there can be cases where a woman is just really struggling to keep a guy around even

00:44:08.720 for something like a friends with benefits or um even just for hookups for maybe like something was

00:44:16.320 wrong with her personality or like how she is um with him when they're hanging out together like

00:44:22.280 something just strikes like a red flag in him and he doesn't want to see her anymore could be something

00:44:27.340 like that yeah

00:44:28.180 do you want to tell you you actually were a fem cell though me at one point right is that i wasn't no

00:44:36.400 never never oh okay anybody here ever identified as a fem cell first time hearing this word first

00:44:43.880 time hearing the word welcome to brain rot america uh has anybody here like i guess i could ask this

00:44:53.480 uh does any it's one of the questionnaires i don't know if anybody well i'll just ask it

00:44:57.660 uh does anybody here think it's more difficult for women to get laid no no okay yeah that's pretty much

00:45:05.060 it on that cat thank you for the gifted 50 memberships really appreciate it let me pull up

00:45:08.960 there is one chat coming in here so i'll just uh get it going we have lucas yo lucas thank you so

00:45:15.740 much man call it a hunch but warren has been watching a bunch of james sexton am i right you

00:45:23.600 know who that is james sexton yes that's yes i have the the new york city attorney yes like family

00:45:30.260 attorney divorce attorney yeah he has some interesting takes and he's the one who made a very compelling

00:45:34.260 argument around why get the government involved it's going so well it's like right we're so happy

00:45:39.160 you know what we should do let's make it draw this up in a contract with the government because they do

00:45:44.520 so yeah so well so are you getting you said you're uh you're engaged are you going to get a prenup or

00:45:50.360 i don't i don't think anyone should get married without a prenup honestly and this could be an

00:45:57.820 interesting conversation i know a lot of people that's a controversial idea i that saved me in the

00:46:03.040 sense of when i almost got married she came from a very wealthy family i was a school teacher 0.87

00:46:09.260 and her parents were pushing for and i didn't care about it i was like oh sure i'll sign it and

00:46:17.800 there was all these family lawyers and it pushed the process but i realized having to have that

00:46:24.960 conversation is what revealed what i would have been putting up with for the duration of being

00:46:35.080 married and i think it can lead to having because if you can't have a conversation like that it's just

00:46:41.500 simply you should be able to have a conversation like that and be like we don't expect this to go bad

00:46:48.060 but this will simplify both of our lives and i can understand i guess from a woman's perspective

00:46:52.840 if you're marrying for the a certain reason you might not want a prenup i can understand that

00:46:59.460 but i don't think you should scowl at a guy if he wants to have that conversation

00:47:05.000 i guess everybody here at the table uh there's quite a few of you who are in relationships uh let's

00:47:12.000 say you were dating a guy you guys were engaged and then shortly after you know you guys get engaged

00:47:16.440 whatever he's like btw want you to sign a prenup does it introduce a conflict into your relationship

00:47:25.540 are you totally fine with it would you object to the prenup going around the table starting with

00:47:31.020 felicity good um one of the first times i was actually on the show there was a woman named alexa 0.74

00:47:39.200 and she was talking about what she thought of prenups and she changed my mind about it i think i would

00:47:45.000 like a prenup you would like a prenup okay yeah i don't think a prenup is a bad idea i think it

00:47:52.680 actually reveals a lot about a true person's colors depending on how they react if you bring it up to

00:47:57.120 them right and for me it wouldn't i wouldn't mind because i wouldn't be marrying somebody with only

00:48:04.720 intentions of just you know of their money or taking their money right you have to have pure

00:48:09.120 intentions sure can i have you tilt your mic down just a little bit what about you alina i think i need

00:48:14.440 to be more familiar of what's a prenup like what is the details exactly it's an agreement so that if

00:48:20.840 the marriage goes bad which over 50 of marriages do it's just rather than having the government come

00:48:27.960 in and drag this out through a legal process and screw one of the two people over in the end most 1.00

00:48:33.160 likely and lose cost you a lot more money you can it just by having this document just a base it's not

00:48:39.620 even having you sign it it's just having an agreement between the two of you it's just this

00:48:45.760 is how it'll it's often this is my resources going into it your resources going into it and this will

00:48:51.080 be our resources during the marriage this is how we'll divvy it up it can be as simple as that and

00:48:55.000 james sexton does a great job of articulating what that can look like and it's so simple it doesn't

00:48:59.200 have to we have this idea of what it is in our minds it doesn't have to be that is there different

00:49:05.100 rules for someone who's not planning to work like let's say a woman is trying to be a stay-at-home 1.00

00:49:09.240 mom or something and she doesn't really have resources going into the marriage but her resource 0.98

00:49:15.080 her resources are going to be what the husband builds up throughout the marriage good question 0.99

00:49:19.640 and this conversation allows you to figure that out before making this legally binding contract

00:49:26.220 that is marriage that people go to vegas or whatnot metaphorically and enter into this thing without

00:49:31.220 realizing what they've just done there's no handbook is james sexton's like description of

00:49:37.000 this doesn't come with a handbook and this just allows you to figure that out before doing it are

00:49:43.040 you going to am i going to provide can we do this is that the expectation and then if it if we do split

00:49:49.700 in worst case scenario what would be fair to you and you come to an agreement before rather than trying

00:49:56.780 to come to an agreement now when you hate each other okay i guess i'm down for that

00:50:01.880 well that you prenups i agree i think i think they're a good thing it's beneficial for both

00:50:08.860 people you go into it with your own resources you leave with your own resources your own debts

00:50:13.820 whatever it may be it's not somebody else's problem you brought all that into the relationship

00:50:17.500 yourself so i agree as well um just because it protects both of our assets and whatever we

00:50:25.220 grow into like if we if let's say i boom up in my business and they boom up in their brand

00:50:31.540 then i think it's fine to protect both of our businesses um so yeah i would definitely do the

00:50:37.940 prenup yeah me too for the same reasons they mentioned as well and you can really tell uh tell

00:50:43.980 something about the other person you can get to know them probably better too that way yeah i'm 100

00:50:49.000 percent signing a prenup what was interesting for the thing that went wrong for me though it wasn't

00:50:55.080 even so it did reveal a lot about her but i kind of had already gone through this with her and other

00:50:59.320 we'd broken up three times it revealed her family dynamic in this team of lawyers and what her parents

00:51:05.240 were expecting which would have dragged on and dragged on as well so you broke up three times 0.88

00:51:11.480 yeah how does that work like because that's what we do stupid things when we when we have a dream in

00:51:18.600 our minds and we think and on some level you're in love it's fast and more complicated and you want you 0.72

00:51:25.880 you fall in love with the idea especially when you get to an age and that biology clock is ticking for

00:51:31.560 all of us especially you guys as well like and it just you come back and you learned i learned to deal

00:51:40.360 with i don't want to throw around the term narcissist lightly but you can encounter like a clinical

00:51:46.280 level narcissist and that is a pattern that they enacted hoovering bringing the person back in

00:51:51.800 and even after when this happened i was like this is if if you bail on this and blow this up like

00:51:57.720 it's done this is the third time and i know you're going to try and do it again three strikes are out

00:52:03.480 like articulated that plain and simple but they just can't so learn to recognize that it's yeah they're

00:52:10.920 out there okay cool uh let's see we're going to get into uh where is it chelsea chelsea you mentioned

00:52:21.320 in your notes one of the dating topics you wanted to speak on it's body counts so what's your position

00:52:27.320 there um i would have to say that i think women should have a lower body count do i think that's 1.00

00:52:38.120 always the case no and i know that men judge women based on their body count so i guess my question

00:52:44.600 is is like how do females feel about a man judging them for their body count how do you feel about your 1.00

00:52:51.400 own body count and do you like regret what your body count is i'll open that up to the panel but why

00:52:56.840 don't you give us your position on that first which part just my thoughts on it yeah uh well

00:53:03.800 i mean like i said i think that women should have a lower body count i mean any man's desire is to

00:53:09.560 have someone who has a lower body count right but do you object to men for example uh having a

00:53:17.000 preference for for women who have low body no no you're okay anybody want to yeah i think it's

00:53:23.720 the business of the men of course if they want it or not but i also will judge a man if he has a

00:53:28.520 high body kind as well you'll judge him too yeah because i find it disgusting as well so yeah yeah

00:53:33.400 i don't believe in the doubles like the double standard where men can go and do whatever they

00:53:37.800 want and women can like are set to a certain standard and i don't i don't agree with people

00:53:43.000 sleeping around no matter what what what gender you are what sex you are i i think you should be like as 0.56

00:53:48.520 close to like a low as close to zero as you possibly can because i think that shows a lot

00:53:52.760 about how much you respect and how much you you value yourself and you value the person that you

00:53:58.120 plan if you plan to settle down with the person that you plan to share your life with and how

00:54:02.040 you're going to set an example for uh other people around you yeah well we do have a question here on

00:54:09.880 the questionnaire is uh a royal statement rather a woman's past should not matter uh the only person

00:54:15.080 who agreed with that was uh liana really yeah you're the only one who circled that all the other

00:54:21.240 women here seem to uh seem to uh think that a woman's past does matter uh why why do you think or 1.00

00:54:30.760 why do you agree that a woman's past should not matter i don't know i think if you're say 35 years

00:54:36.280 old and you had a college phase where you dated a lot of people and you experimented if i'm like if

00:54:43.720 it's like 15 years down the line and you're like settling down and you're not that person anymore and

00:54:49.320 someone's like well 15 years ago you had a roster and you slept with all these guys in college so i

00:54:54.440 don't want to be with you i would just think that would be a little bit ridiculous um i don't know i

00:54:58.920 just think like that's just like one example but i just think that i mean also it depends like how

00:55:04.440 severe i guess the past is and everyone's entitled to their own opinion if a man doesn't want to be

00:55:09.320 with somebody because they've slept with so many people then that's totally fine you're entitled to

00:55:14.680 your own opinion but i just think it's i think a lot of the time too many men do expect a lot from

00:55:20.520 women but if you were to turn around and ask the same question it'd be like well it doesn't apply to 1.00

00:55:23.960 me it only applies to you because you're a woman i mean i've heard i i had this one saying um someone 1.00

00:55:29.720 in college told me and they were like a key that opens many locks is a good key but a lock that many

00:55:37.640 keys can open is a bad lock or something like along those lines and i just thought it was funny but

00:55:43.240 something yeah something along that i'm like that wasn't exactly you almost got it

00:55:48.120 you mentioned there's a college phase uh did you have a what does that mean what's a call

00:55:52.520 i mean i didn't i mean a lot of people in college like will sleep around or they'll date a lot of

00:55:56.520 people not everyone but i feel like people have phases people high school i mean whatever it may

00:56:00.680 be but high school phase i don't know high school phase hey yeah it goes down in high school i guess

00:56:05.800 like i feel like there's there's times i mean i know people i know somebody who was in a relationship

00:56:10.040 for 10 years all through high school and college and then they broke up and they were like well i never

00:56:15.000 slept with anyone else so like i'm gonna go date around and see what i like and i think that's

00:56:19.320 totally fine sure did you have a college phase i wouldn't say so i i'm unfortunately like a serial

00:56:25.400 relationship dater um or a situationship or which is horrible okay um uh has anybody here had a

00:56:34.600 college phase party phase some people call it the ho phase i've had a party phase but i wasn't sleeping

00:56:40.600 with people they're like anybody no ho phases i went more on a dating phase but i was like trying 0.69

00:56:47.800 to get to know myself on what i like and uh what i would want in like a future partner or just a

00:56:54.040 distraction in that moment so i'll be honest if i i would find a no offense like a situationship

00:57:02.680 serial person more alarming probably

00:57:07.480 a college face i'm sorry like a serial a serial monogamous would make you more worried than

00:57:12.680 someone who's had a bunch of relationship relationship relationship what how'd you

00:57:16.040 situationship like sorry like you're only sleeping with this person but you don't have an official

00:57:19.880 title if you're bouncing from like short relationship to short relationship rather than someone who's

00:57:24.120 like yeah i you know had some fun in college i'm not saying that what if they're not short

00:57:28.760 i had a situationship of four years and that was on me situationship but you had a four-year

00:57:32.840 situation yeah that was horrible four-year that's not a situation well that's what i tried to tell

00:57:38.600 him if you've never if you've never established the relationship it's a long technically yeah well

00:57:42.920 learned my but what do you wait did you did you say i love you to the situationship no

00:57:48.120 did he say it to you he let it slip once and then he was like i didn't mean to say that

00:57:53.240 wait was it were you only seeing him for those four years it was a little bit on and off um but i

00:58:00.040 pretty much was only seeing him um because we i i guess for the first year it was still like

00:58:05.560 casual if you would say so i was open to dating other people i didn't really i i catch feelings

00:58:11.880 for someone and then i'm like not interested in seeing other people i have that problem um and then

00:58:16.840 a little bit into it he was like i don't want you hooking up with anybody else and i won't but i

00:58:21.400 also don't want to call you my girlfriend and i was like weird but okay and then so i was very

00:58:26.200 loyal to that but he wasn't and i think it was just his way of like making sure i wasn't

00:58:32.200 and then he was gonna go do his thing got tricked yeah i definitely uh learned my lesson on that one

00:58:37.560 so would you do it again no right so then it wouldn't be serial right so if i met a girl and 1.00

00:58:42.840 she was doing that repeatedly yeah you're not learning yeah that's a red flag well i learned from

00:58:46.840 that that was like the last time i yeah like if you can't figure out what you want with me in the

00:58:51.880 span of a couple months like maybe we should just move on or call it what it is so yeah and why would

00:58:57.560 you find that more troubling actually i want to know your thoughts well i think it's people do

00:59:01.880 crazy things in college and i can i'm not saying you should do that i can understand why that would

00:59:06.600 be unappealing but as opposed to that pattern not that you are enacting that pattern but i do think

00:59:12.440 that that would be more of a red flag if you're trying to find a sustainable relationship than

00:59:17.000 a balanced well-rounded woman who had some experiences in college or whatnot but also you

00:59:23.400 don't i'll just leave it there but a lot of this you don't need to disclose if you 0.98

00:59:30.200 did some stupid things you know in college we i don't think it's the end-all be-all 0.96

00:59:37.400 just keep it private that's what i want to do okay but you said like you find it more troublesome 1.00

00:59:42.280 going from situationship to situationship and why would that be because it shows you're not learning 0.91

00:59:47.560 as opposed to a short period of time of youthful stupidity as opposed to an adult who should be

00:59:53.800 progressing and learning from those experiences that pattern is more alarming just if i'm just going 0.84

00:59:58.760 to balance two patterns i'm not saying either is good but that would indicate more of a red flag to

01:00:06.440 me does that make sense yeah very much yeah because it also kind of seems like the person is um trying

01:00:12.360 to attach themselves or try to fill a void rather than take accountability and kind of trying to

01:00:18.280 find a sense of dependability on someone else if that makes sense is that what you could indicate

01:00:23.480 a number of things yeah problem okay all right i see your side yeah uh going back to chelsea your

01:00:30.280 notes uh a disagreement that you had with the show is that you said sometimes execution of thoughts are

01:00:37.880 poor what do you mean by that uh sometimes you can like word vomit things and it doesn't me or no no

01:00:48.840 no i would say just in general people who come on the show they might say something and they

01:00:52.760 word vomit it and then they're like that's not actually what i meant oh okay so other people i mean

01:00:58.760 i do that shit but sometimes okay all right uh was was there like a specific topic that you 0.87

01:01:05.320 think the execution is poor on her my first question is are you sure these are my my notes chelsea 0.99

01:01:10.200 yeah uh here let me double check because i i watch your podcast and i don't have any issues most

01:01:17.080 of the time with what you well you sent some like originally let me i mean i'll double check but

01:01:21.880 back in april yeah april 5th body counts sometimes execution of thoughts are poor that's pretty much

01:01:30.680 well no i wouldn't be talking about you i would probably say some of your guests i don't think

01:01:33.960 they always think through what they're saying for sure all right moving on uh you said what i think

01:01:38.760 this is yours maybe i fucked it up again uh you said one time you were pegging a guy no wait who's that 0.98

01:01:47.880 oh my gosh no wait who's wait five year who is that you chelsea no or uh liana liana who said 0.99

01:01:59.480 who sent me the fucking it might have been one of the flakes hold on let me do let me 0.99

01:02:03.800 fucking check on this we had a couple flakes today god damn there's people flaking out let me let me 0.99

01:02:08.600 find this shit speak now was that you unless someone hacked my instagram i wouldn't have said that 0.99

01:02:14.680 five year five year situationship with my younger boss okay that part is true but i did not 0.99

01:02:22.680 the other part now hold on what the fuck wait so is it you or is it not you no that that second 0.88

01:02:28.520 part was me the five-year relation situation is now my current yeah but i wouldn't have said that 0.99

01:02:34.520 other part unless he took my phone which you're just embarrassed to admit it on camera no no you

01:02:41.880 literally hold on chelsea chelsea yeah number six read the whole thing one time you i don't want i

01:02:49.320 want to say i but you did say i but one time you were pegging a guy and he uh did doo-doo on you

01:02:58.040 oh i know then he it's in your notes okay it might be but i'm gonna say that the person that i'm with

01:03:03.720 right now he helped me no seriously he helped me fill these out and he's he watches the podcast and

01:03:08.840 like sister oh so he's pranking yeah okay yeah all right yeah he's yeah okay no seriously so but you 0.96

01:03:17.160 did you actually peg a dude yes oh okay so this happened what the fuck wait this whole time you said 0.96

01:03:28.360 no okay well he kept going and i was like wait where's this wait did you ask to do that no he asked for it 0.87

01:03:35.800 yes oh my god i think your man card gets revoked i mean i don't know i don't know whatever um okay

01:03:44.440 whatever different strokes for different uh you said your five-year situationship was with your

01:03:50.120 uh younger boss yeah so wait you said you were in a five-year relationship but it wasn't a relationship

01:03:54.520 no that situation yeah no no oh you did it you had a five-year relationship and a five-year

01:04:00.280 situation ship yeah but the five-year situation ship is actually like where my current relationship

01:04:05.000 is at wait with your younger boss yeah wait you're dating the your situation ship currently

01:04:10.600 yeah it was like four years of us like being in a situation ship and last year we established a

01:04:15.400 relationship so you've been in a official relationship for a year but you were is this

01:04:21.400 the pegging dude no you pegged this guy no okay that was like the that like i said he likes to

01:04:27.560 joke so that would have been yeah okay five year but you were not exclusive and during the five

01:04:34.360 during the four years we weren't exclusive okay and he's younger than you yeah how you're 32 how old

01:04:40.200 is he 27 okay 27 so he was like 22 when you guys met and you were like 27 i guess yeah okay and he's

01:04:49.080 your boss yes where do you where do you work i work you don't have to say the place i will i work in

01:04:55.480 agricultural transportation you're a truck driver uh no i am like an operations manager so i manage

01:05:03.080 truck drivers you don't do the actual transportation but you're no okay but like logistics i deal with

01:05:08.200 the logistics of things okay so you're like in front you're in an office yeah basically yeah okay and

01:05:14.120 he's your supervisor or something yeah have you disclosed this to hr um is it a small company or yeah

01:05:22.280 yeah his dad's actually the owner of the company so ah okay that's like a lawsuit waiting to happen

01:05:29.240 but okay uh uh okay that's cool uh you said you have a girlfriend lesbian friend like you dated her 1.00

01:05:37.960 or she's i did i dated her for a year we broke up we're better office friends we're currently friends

01:05:44.440 she actually just got engaged last weekend to a woman yes i see okay but you were in so you're bisexual

01:05:51.960 no but you i dated one woman for a year and i yeah it was i was going through a lot of rough stuff

01:06:03.000 and uh just just kind of happened and then did something make you realize like yeah i'm straight

01:06:10.600 yes yeah what was it yeah what was that um well i mean like a conjuncture of things like a lot of things

01:06:20.120 um like i said i think part of the reason that i was in the relationship is because i appreciated

01:06:26.280 who she was as a person and like how she treated me and everything like that but then i came to realize

01:06:31.960 towards the tail end of things that we were just better off as friends like

01:06:35.400 why am i in a relationship this should just be a friendship type situation

01:06:38.760 do you find her sexually attractive um yes yes in the beginning for sure she was definitely 0.98

01:06:49.880 more masculine in appearance and everything so wait going around the table what's everybody's

01:06:55.160 orientation like straight bisexual lesbian i'm straight straight straight well now straight now straight 0.72

01:07:01.960 straight straight straight straight straight uh okay uh that's cool and okay i guess moving on then

01:07:12.360 five-year situation to situationship with your younger boss uh i noticed on your ex you wrote

01:07:20.440 you hate being a girl this is a long ass time ago though your twitter girl 0.94

01:07:25.880 yeah because i know because it's probably when i was in college or something like that's old yeah 1.00

01:07:32.360 i don't i don't get on also you also wrote on your twitter man i just love me a big old bag of dicks 0.99

01:07:41.160 i don't know what a bag of dicks is but no again probably back in college with my like high 0.99

01:07:46.360 school slash college boyfriend and he yeah you said uh related to your current relationship with your 0.99

01:07:52.440 boss which was previously like a four or five year situation ship uh you said his mom hates you

01:08:01.000 why why is that um i don't really have a concrete answer but what he and i have decided is she

01:08:09.640 thinks that any female that he's with is going to end up stealing the lifestyle that she currently has 0.73

01:08:15.880 her lifestyle yes she she works for the company in a very small capacity um but she goes on trips

01:08:27.640 vacations things like that and i think she thinks that any female that he's with because he's he's set

01:08:33.800 to take over the business here in the next um i don't know extended period of time and she's afraid

01:08:41.480 that whoever he ends up with is going to have an like have some type of say in how her lifestyle will 1.00

01:08:49.480 be changed do you her her the mom her lifestyle for sure okay so she's got like a cushy nepo job 1.00

01:08:56.360 and yeah if once he takes over that's potentially at risk because of the new leadership of the company

01:09:03.960 yeah that or like their finances in general will be cut back because his dad will retire and i don't think

01:09:09.240 she likes the idea of that okay all right it's not about it's not really related to like anything

01:09:15.320 about oh no she just doesn't like me though too good times that's yeah yeah she uh yeah okay uh you

01:09:23.800 said that you don't advertise at work that you guys are seeing each other you keep things business at

01:09:27.720 work uh okay you said you're curious as to how other females feel about how dating apps social media 1.00

01:09:34.120 and i'll skip that uh you said that you feel like modern dating has turned into a pursuit for the

01:09:40.040 next best thing women also think that sleeping around puts them on the same level as men okay 1.00

01:09:47.720 yeah yeah yeah i'm not gonna bite there but no it's okay uh pretty much agree uh i'm gonna let

01:09:56.840 some chats come through then we're gonna get into the rest of the notes we have josh brooks here

01:10:00.040 yo josh thank you man warren brings up a good point simply having a conversation about different

01:10:05.880 things that includes and affects both parties seeing the reactions don't put blinders on to

01:10:11.960 the reactions and he has a follow-up message he says he had a girl one time bring this up and out of

01:10:19.400 nowhere asked me how i pronounce demi moore's name turned into a whole situation after i said it wrong

01:10:25.720 and ask some clarifying questions be careful guys wait all over how you said her did she get the ick

01:10:32.760 she you broke up with your girl because you didn't know how to pronounce demi moore 0.98

01:10:39.320 bullet dodged i guess bullet dodge thank you josh books for the uh messages man really appreciate it

01:10:45.240 good to see you man we got beat in cheeks oh boy he's got a roast for that for you guys chair one and

01:10:50.520 four have more red flags than the ccp chinese communist party stay away from them full folk folk 1.00

01:10:58.440 okay plural that uh body count is going to matter for established men perhaps not low testosterone males

01:11:04.520 they don't mind getting leftovers oh my goodness wow okay from beating cheeks anybody uh you have

01:11:10.360 thoughts on that it looks like the body count does matter ah there you have it she she did say that

01:11:16.440 she did say that okay we got lucas thank you be beating cheeks though uh one chair one uh one

01:11:22.200 sexual temperance is optimal for both sexes but there is a double standard i've said this in a previous

01:11:28.600 episode but trust me double standards very much go the other way as well eg when i turn 18 i signed up

01:11:35.160 with the select with selective service you didn't when the titanic goes down you get whisked off to the

01:11:42.600 lifeboat i hang out and listen to the chamber orchestra when some beaches in normandy needed

01:11:47.720 storming a bunch of 18 year old boys were sent to do the storming you stayed back and played rosie the

01:11:54.040 riveter etc i believe this is in response to when we were talking about body count and you were saying

01:12:02.440 how uh there's maybe a double standard as it relates to this like men maybe get judged less harshly when

01:12:10.040 it comes to their promiscuity whereas women get judged quite harshly for theirs i'm still confused

01:12:16.840 on what he said to be honest i just saw a bunch of wait i have a question for you

01:12:23.960 what decade was world war one why do we have to do this right now just just a basic this is a historical

01:12:32.040 discussion podcast don't look at me 1920s 1920s 1920s like 1918 oh i shouldn't have answered 0.96

01:12:43.160 yeah you're helping your girl out um thank god i'm gonna look so stupid right now lucas do you want 0.87

01:12:48.760 to add a clarifying lucas you got her all confused there's you're throwing world war ii history at her 0.65

01:12:56.280 um it's crazy because my ex was a big history buff so but i think when he started to talk about it i

01:13:02.440 just started to kind of like drift off he loved to talk about it and i was like you lost me i'm

01:13:07.640 sorry did you talk about the roman empire do you want me to talk about that did he oh i was like uh

01:13:12.760 i don't even like i said i got he said a lot of things about all of the we have a lot of like we

01:13:18.600 had a lot of books in our house about world war ii so he loved to talk about it but

01:13:21.880 okay going back to uh chelsea's notes then let's see chelsea uh no actually we finished chelsea's

01:13:30.600 notes we did uh kasumi what are the green flags when it comes to dating i would like to know that

01:13:36.680 we're always talking about flags and well yeah uh green i think for a man you need oh i think for a

01:13:43.400 man he needs to be capable and i mean with that i mean um if we're both playing a a game or something

01:13:49.800 he needs to be um showing that he's good at it like mario kart or something what kind of game

01:13:57.320 what are we talking about let me see uh like we're playing soccer for example if he sucks at it and i

01:14:05.320 don't kind of like yeah i like a bit of competition i would say but also in handling situations outside

01:14:12.520 um maybe someone drops a bag with a lot of groceries if i see him act upon that and help the person out with

01:14:19.480 the grocery bags then i think that's like a really green good flag um now my english must not

01:14:26.520 is probably not uh explaining this very well but uh being capable being able to do things better than

01:14:33.560 other people competent competent because we're always yeah because we're always in the game whether

01:14:38.680 we know it or not at some some level every area basically i think that's a big green flag for a man

01:14:44.520 all right uh we'll go around the table give us like one green flag green flag yeah not taking life

01:14:54.200 too seriously sense of humor okay sense of humor what about you i feel like discipline and um knowledge

01:15:01.960 are very important like someone that wants to grow and has like goals for themselves i feel like that's a

01:15:08.520 really green flag for me i would have to say like someone who's compassionate like towards other

01:15:16.600 people compassion okay alina green flag i would say if he has a lot of leadership qualities and he's

01:15:23.720 dominant that's a green flag this sounds uh probably bare minimum but somebody who's mentally stable

01:15:30.600 okay um emotional intelligence what is what is that someone who can someone who can express their

01:15:46.840 emotions and communicate productively may i jump in somebody who's not emotionally unavailable or

01:15:53.160 somebody who's not emotionally constipated yeah pretty much yeah what does that mean emotional

01:15:58.920 unavailability or like you said emotionally constipated yeah it's just like a funny way of saying

01:16:03.640 emotionally unavailable i guess just unable to or struggles to empathize or be able like empathize

01:16:09.560 not in like a like a sociopathic kind of way but just struggles to express themselves does not feel

01:16:14.840 particularly comfortable being vulnerable in a relationship and that can in turn affect a relationship

01:16:21.400 overall more aspects than just a relationship i think in all aspects of life absolutely because

01:16:26.520 i think usually women experience men just shutting down and not wanting to talk about things and

01:16:31.560 emotional intelligence is the opposite of that they can yeah i experienced that with my ex it was

01:16:37.240 like so hard to have a conversation sometimes because he would just shut down and i'm like trying to

01:16:41.240 talk about it then he brings it up later he's like oh but i was upset about that like but you didn't

01:16:45.080 tell me yeah i want someone that can communicate productively exactly and then it also affects

01:16:51.800 us as like the more emotional emotional counterpart or emotionally intelligent counterpart i guess in

01:16:57.560 this case where then we don't feel comfortable it kind of reflects on us and it makes us feel

01:17:01.960 uncomfortable um opening up or expressing ourselves to our partner because we feel like we're going to be

01:17:06.600 judged or not well received by them making our feelings feel valid so you're open to express your

01:17:14.280 feelings and he's open to receiving them and understanding them what if her feelings are

01:17:19.160 wrong you can say that like what if she's just wrong and like i get you feel that way but you're just

01:17:27.080 you're you're wrong about the disagreement or the issue that's those are two different things right

01:17:32.840 you can feel something and that can be legit but your choice in something could be the wrong thing

01:17:37.000 i suppose there can be some degree of separation but i mean expressing like it's okay to feel this

01:17:44.760 way but you are wrong about it like what do you mean in the sense like somebody cheats you and they're

01:17:51.640 like i i feel bad about cheating but it's still wrong that they did that like what do you no no no

01:17:58.280 that's not what i'm like the way she feels about the situation like for example you guys could agree that

01:18:04.680 someone might like feel uh this doesn't really necessarily relate to a dating context but somebody

01:18:10.600 might feel scared but there's actually no uh there's no actual uh

01:18:20.040 reason reason for it there's like an irrational fear right sometimes that happens right sometimes

01:18:25.960 you can feel something and cannot really explain why that is that happens it's very i struggle with

01:18:31.800 this it's very frustrating something i need to improve or whatnot but it appears like that on the

01:18:37.720 surface but also you got to see what is that guy dealing with and what's the dynamic of that

01:18:42.600 relationship is he expected to provide entirely and and there's also different degrees if you just

01:18:49.320 lost a parent or something very difficult happened versus i'm having a bad day or a subtle fear or

01:18:57.240 something it's i'm often oblivious to it that men have that more often when usually women focus on

01:19:06.920 little thingies and uh their emotion can go up and down and men are not really aware of that but

01:19:14.120 some men are and probably that fits into that as well that uh often we're aware of it i think but we

01:19:21.080 just there's almost something instinctual about like okay but i have other you don't say that out

01:19:26.760 loud but your mind is okay but i have all these things i got to do right now and you're trying to

01:19:30.920 address that as well but you said something interesting you're like calling them out um like

01:19:37.400 it's okay to have opposing opinions and i think that it's okay if your partner doesn't want to talk

01:19:43.000 about it right now like they can tell you that i don't want to talk about it and they can if they

01:19:47.640 do want to talk about it and they think that you're just being irrational they just don't agree with

01:19:52.600 whatever your thoughts or feelings are that's okay you can talk about it yeah i think there can be a lot

01:19:58.120 of miscommunications as well because some people deal with their issues differently like uh for

01:20:03.800 some people it may be more beneficial to not talk about their issues all the time because it can make

01:20:08.680 it worse for them whereas for others they want to talk about their issues to someone that they care

01:20:14.520 about like for me for example if i'm stressed about something i don't want to talk about it because if

01:20:19.320 i do it's going to make me think about it more and going to make me more frustrated about it for some

01:20:24.600 people it can be opposite so it's important to establish what your communication style is i guess

01:20:31.320 in the relationship before you jump to conclusions of any kind i agree with that okay uh were we did we

01:20:39.560 get all the way around the table felicity did you say a green flag or yeah i was the one that said

01:20:45.400 emotional intelligence oh that was you okay warren green flag when it comes to dating

01:20:49.800 being able to this kind of goes back to being able to have those conversations but i can

01:20:56.840 i don't want this to be a red flag but often say you're on a date or something i was just thinking

01:21:02.760 about this the other day a couple years ago i had a date at this bar and jk rowling came up ironically

01:21:09.880 and this girl was like i was like why do you care about this so much and then i knew in that moment

01:21:15.720 i might as well leave the states over i was like whatever i'm just gonna have some fun with it

01:21:20.840 what evidence do you have that she's transphobic and like just to hear it out

01:21:24.440 it was just mind-blowing though and that's happened in so many different iterations

01:21:28.760 around like oh jordan peterson says something i really think is intelligent wait a minute are you

01:21:34.920 racist and it leads into this whole thing i can't tell you how many times i've encountered conversations

01:21:39.080 like that that so i guess what i'm trying to say for a green flag would be kind of someone said

01:21:45.320 sanity it's just mentally stable mentally stable more just yeah like the word based is thrown around

01:21:52.840 a lot like to deal with her emotions like learn that she knows how to handle her emotions in a way 0.98

01:21:59.560 yes but it's also rational it's that's very important to be able to if they don't have control

01:22:06.120 their emotions just like in a guy you're it's hopeless absolutely but it's more just are you are

01:22:12.840 they caught up in the narratives that are going around kind of goes to the idea of the red pill

01:22:16.920 blue pill idea because our world is just full of stories that people are buying into in the moment

01:22:21.880 you question that just on the level of jordan peterson said something i've it's wait a minute

01:22:27.400 what is that who are you that's the response you can get and it's more common than you think so

01:22:32.760 hmm hmm green flags in a woman green green flags uh probably uh i i enjoy acts of service receiving

01:22:46.440 not giving so she's basically like if she's down to basically not literally figuratively be a slave 1.00

01:22:55.240 so like do shit for me big green flag oh i you know i got like some uh trees at my house you want 0.95

01:23:03.320 to water the trees all right like doing chores yard work i'm putting her to work basically and she's 1.00

01:23:10.360 like on board she's like yes give me things to do she's a keeper i would describe that as traditional

01:23:17.960 values which is one of the big green flags and the person i'm with now and that was something that

01:23:23.720 i didn't encounter much before it was literally the phrase i'm looking for a man with traditional

01:23:29.080 values and that was like oh that was a big green flag yeah she should be able to uh plow a field 0.84

01:23:42.120 if she can plow a field you know um let's see what's another green flag temperance so i like uh

01:23:49.720 uh i don't i don't drink or do drugs or smoke or anything so i definitely prefer a woman who 1.00

01:23:55.400 uh not not really a drinker doesn't go to bars clubs that sort of thing what else um

01:24:04.440 i'd like a whiskey at night and she doesn't drink at all but she doesn't get on my case about that i

01:24:09.880 kind of laid that out there as something that's important to me i was like you will never here's

01:24:14.520 the deal i made i was like you will never see me drunk and if i'm ever drunk if i can't

01:24:18.680 in an emergency do what i need to do like call me out like you won't see that that's kind of the deal

01:24:23.320 that i made i thought you're about to say like in some emergencies i might need to get drunk yeah

01:24:30.440 getting drunk emergency uh what what are some other green flags um

01:24:35.480 um a lack of vanity lack of vanity is big what does that mean uh well this would manifest itself

01:24:44.840 in a couple different ways so i typically prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup uh i'm i'm like

01:24:50.440 a natural body supremacist so i i don't like plastic surgery i don't like botox i don't like lip fillers

01:24:57.320 i don't like any of that stuff uh so with that you're with come along with that comes the discipline

01:25:03.400 to maintain to put in the effort into fitness so that you can get to that natural beauty nothing

01:25:10.040 stands out like i think what you're saying like natural beauty i don't mind makeup some makeup um

01:25:16.840 but just someone because that if someone is naturally it shows discipline i think on so many

01:25:23.240 different psychological levels it's not just oh you're attractive it shows that you have the

01:25:27.400 discipline and willingness to put in even once we're in this relationship into the future is i

01:25:33.720 think guys are often thinking about that quietly without saying anything what is this woman going 0.58

01:25:39.160 to look like years from now is she gonna get comfortable and everything's you know it's superficial

01:25:44.760 i understand but a man doesn't want to be attracted to anyone else but you ideally i'm okay with

01:25:51.880 like a little mascara eyeliner i'll allow it i'll accept it but anything you're putting on you know

01:25:58.840 yeah it can be overdone it can be overdone you don't want to be catfished like in person or anything

01:26:04.040 yeah and uh well it's interesting the thing with makeup is like as a guy you can be consciously like

01:26:09.880 you can see the foundation or powder or whatever it's called on her face and like and all the other

01:26:15.480 makeup that she has on and you can be consciously aware that she is wearing makeup but you still can't

01:26:20.600 quite pierce through the veil that make up uh that make up sort of the illusion it creates

01:26:27.640 uh you can maybe take some like guesses in your mind's eye of like what she looks like without it

01:26:32.680 but like the effect of makeup i think strikes it a bit more of like a subconscious level almost where

01:26:38.760 it's like the bamboozle even if you know she's wearing makeup the bamboozle has still 1.00

01:26:43.560 like hit you you're perhaps more attracted to her than you otherwise would be uh had it not been for

01:26:50.920 the makeup so um yeah ideally you don't see the makeup i think when that's what you kind of want

01:26:56.840 but if you're going to be in a relationship with her you're eventually going to see her without the

01:27:00.520 makeup right i mean some of these girls man they keep that on yeah at night sleep with you can see it 1.00

01:27:06.440 like if you you can be like babe like you know wash your face like you can see if she has a little 0.57

01:27:12.120 bit you can still see it yeah eventually yeah sure eventually it's gonna be in my bathroom and you're

01:27:17.320 gonna wash your face before eventually you would see it but um i mean i'd still prefer like it's not

01:27:25.320 that i will eventually at one point see what you truly look like it's just i have a preference leaning

01:27:31.560 towards people who just don't wear again mascara a little mascara eyeliner whatever not a big deal

01:27:38.040 but if you're doing like full face typically not my not my thing not my thing you have something

01:27:44.120 on this jump in on this sure what if on a day-to-day basis it's just mascara but you are going out to a

01:27:50.280 nice dinner or to an event so she wants to put on like more makeup that day or something like are you

01:27:55.960 weird about that would you just rather her always be natural i feel like sometimes there's an occasion

01:28:00.760 where it's like yeah yeah i would be flattered like my boyfriend also prefers me with nothing

01:28:05.480 on my face so i would be really flattered if he says don't you don't have to put on anything right

01:28:10.040 if she like for a specific event if she wanted to wear makeup i'd yeah i'd probably be fine with it 0.94

01:28:17.160 but i i would tell her you don't have to do like you don't i wouldn't care but if she wanted to do it i

01:28:23.960 don't think i wouldn't have objection object any objections to it but if like she's wearing that 0.95

01:28:30.440 shit on the regular yeah not a fan not a fan of it that's fair yeah and uh i was thinking about this 0.96

01:28:39.080 the other day though with with the whole makeup thing and i don't know if like sometimes uh 0.98

01:28:44.360 i don't know y'all really like to defend your makeup like you get offended you'll get upset 0.98

01:28:51.160 like the fuck he he's coming for the makeup he's coming for the makeup would you do this trade-off 0.99

01:28:58.360 this would just level the playing field across the board no women could wear makeup nobody could wear 1.00

01:29:03.240 makeup would you give up makeup under those circumstances but you have to right right well

01:29:10.360 it's the idea here i think one of the reasons women wear makeup it's it's compared to what so 1.00

01:29:17.480 if you're like all the other women are wearing makeup and if i don't wear makeup it's kind of

01:29:21.080 like steroids in sports well all the other athletes are doing steroids they're going to outperform me

01:29:26.040 out compete me if i don't do the steroids too but if no women wear makeup there would be less incentive 1.00

01:29:33.720 to wear makeup because no other women are wearing it i mean i guess there's other differences like

01:29:39.400 there's the internal component too so that would be the external but the internal component is

01:29:44.280 like just your own vision of yourself and wanting to feel comfortable or confident when

01:29:48.360 you go out or whatever it is but if nobody else is wearing makeup even that would be somewhat

01:29:53.400 uh reduced i guess no i agree with you 100 i feel like it's all the internal part is because we

01:29:59.480 all are surrounded by makeup on a daily basis like you look at a person you're like oh she did her

01:30:03.640 makeup she looks great so i feel like i need to do my makeup to look great and then it's just stuck

01:30:08.040 in your head and you can't you can't get away from it so no i completely agree if no one wore makeup

01:30:13.160 i think we'd all be a little bit happier my bigger grievance though has to do with plastic surgery

01:30:17.800 like i'm not not a fan of plastic surgery anybody here botox can you tell

01:30:25.400 i just tried to raise my eyebrows and they were just like oh you have how many what is it the

01:30:30.280 what's the the measurement that they have no idea is it cc's units how many units of botox i actually

01:30:38.680 don't know um you lost track no i mean i they don't i just told them this is where i want it and

01:30:43.720 i don't know how many they did but but have you gone like multiple times i've only done it twice

01:30:47.560 twice um it's like a once a year lift they wiggle okay they move what about have you had the filler

01:30:54.360 in the lips yeah just a little bit i i don't like to go overboard but anybody else had lip filler or

01:30:58.840 anything okay yeah i'm not a fan of the all that stuff but sorry no apology accepted makeup i think

01:31:07.480 also everybody and especially women like pretty things they like to look pretty they want to feel

01:31:13.400 pretty so i think next to social media because social media is pushing all the women to wear a 1.00

01:31:18.200 bunch of makeup but i think also i also think that women uh just like to look beautiful and feel 0.99

01:31:24.280 beautiful and makeup is a part of that but are you doing it to enhance your features or are you doing

01:31:28.920 to hide something that's the line in there if makeup was banned people would still find look

01:31:34.680 loopholes in it like uh girls would use like berries and stuff and like 0.98

01:31:39.240 stuff that's like colored like red or different colors or whatever for your eyelashes like in egypt

01:31:45.640 they used to use all types of stuff like before like charcoal or i don't even know so just stuff

01:31:52.120 that's not makeup but just like with every other law people would find loopholes in it well i sure i

01:31:58.760 suppose but the idea here is like you you would just totally get rid of makeup and then uh i don't

01:32:05.000 know there's just like a a social cultural zeitgeist where it's like okay we're just

01:32:10.360 generally not going to put on our face that alters our appearance but how would you know that if

01:32:15.480 somebody has raspberries on her face like for cheek flesh you wouldn't see that but you would just 1.00

01:32:19.960 i mean i would i would see i mean it would happen but you don't know what it is it could be just her

01:32:24.520 natural face you know all right miss loophole over here yo hey get us some some raspberries we're 1.00

01:32:29.640 gonna have her put some raspberries on her face do we have any fruit back there we can have we got 1.00

01:32:34.280 some pizza some pizza some pepperoni some fucking dorito dust should we put some of that on your 0.99

01:32:40.200 face um i would think the world would be a better place actually it would be healthier for us but we 0.99

01:32:46.200 also would have less competition between women because women i think they silently compete with each 1.00

01:32:51.080 other it looks better than the other yeah i think it would be actually a good idea i i think it would

01:32:56.840 actually be a good thing to like well first off i mean the makeup the cosmetic industry is like a

01:33:03.080 trillion maybe i'm exaggerating there it's a like half a trillion dollar industry yearly and like think

01:33:10.760 of those think of those cargo ships sending that paint from fucking china across and you know they're 0.86

01:33:18.360 they're burning bunker fuel i don't know if you guys probably don't know what that is but they're 0.97

01:33:21.960 burning bunker fuel and and it's just like so that women can feel moderately more attractive holy 1.00

01:33:29.080 shit you know i like one thing i like to test out with environmentalists female environmentalists 1.00

01:33:34.680 as i ask them would you would you be willing to never wear makeup again never anyways that's stupid 1.00

01:33:42.040 sorry we're getting off topic uh we got some chats here uh josh brooks okay gotta ask the panel what is 0.98

01:33:47.240 your most embarrassing dating story something that happened in public or private intimate or not

01:33:51.720 that was embarrassing and stayed with you anybody got embarrassing dating story

01:33:58.280 besides the pegging for you over there sorry guys yeah i feel like i do but i cannot think of it

01:34:03.560 on the spot i think it's bad enough that a guy got your name tattooed on it that's pretty i mean

01:34:08.120 that's pretty i'm flattered personally i'm not embarrassed do you think he would be embarrassed

01:34:14.120 oh i'm sure now that we're not together because he does tell me all the time that he regrets it and 0.95

01:34:17.960 i was like i gave you the warning i've got a couple i got a bunch oh shit wait okay let me pull up my bad 0.84

01:34:24.040 dates if i get a notepad thing uh one time i was on this date with this girl and uh she was coming 0.94

01:34:31.560 over and like at my place where i was living at the time there's a bunch of hedges bunch of hedges and

01:34:37.960 she like there's two different entrances entrances and there's there were spiders like spider webs in 1.00

01:34:45.080 the hedge and she got uh and she was coming over and it was going down right and but she got bit

01:34:53.080 like and she can't so she got bit walked through the spider web got bit by the spider needless to 0.95

01:34:58.440 say and then she started feeling unwell so needless to say uh you didn't get i got cock blocked by a 1.00

01:35:04.600 spider that was pretty embarrassing uh there was another time i was on a date with a girl

01:35:10.040 and i had a actually it was kind of like one of these i had a big water bottle with me i brought

01:35:15.160 the water bottle when i'm home though i have like an ro reverse osmosis water system i'm on this date

01:35:21.880 with her and it's going good it's going okay but i could you know by the end of it it i don't know

01:35:27.080 it wasn't a good match whatever and uh we're getting up to leave and then she's like hey i need to

01:35:32.360 i just want to say one more thing to you she's like that water bottle you have she gets really

01:35:38.360 serious it's like uh it's really bad for the environment you should like get like a like a glass 0.91

01:35:47.640 thing i'm like i'm like well i tell her i'm like look i don't drink out of this shit like i i have it 0.92

01:35:53.880 at home i have a glass you know cup and she's like well even when you're going out you know you 0.92

01:36:01.160 should just have a glass uh you know like a little a glass and then i was like hold on let me

01:36:07.480 fucking debate you for a second and i was i was like well what kind of car you drive because 1.00

01:36:13.560 i happen to drive a hybrid oh you you don't drive a hybrid well fuck you and then um and i was like 1.00

01:36:20.920 oh you're wearing makeup that came in a plastic container i see you're wearing a little bit of 0.99

01:36:26.920 something that came in plastic and then but she got upset that i pushed back

01:36:33.480 uh-huh i mean it was clearly nothing was going to happen yeah but she she felt the need to be like

01:36:39.640 make a stand against me on a date because i had a plastic i'm not even joking like this actually

01:36:45.400 happened and i don't know if she was expecting for me to allow her to lecture me

01:36:51.480 like because it was kind of she was condescending with it it wasn't just like hey i had a really

01:36:57.480 nice date um i don't know in what i don't even know how you could like uh phrase that sort of

01:37:04.520 thing to make it not be condescending but she was like really she was upset with me because i had a 0.98

01:37:10.840 plastic water bottle so i was like the fuck and so i had to like i'm the type of person i don't like 0.98

01:37:17.480 conflict but if you're game i'm game so i'll argue with you but then i i started arguing back 0.98

01:37:24.840 with not like insulting her but i was just like well let's investigate your uh footprint what is

01:37:30.760 it called the footprint the carbon footprint let's investigate yours and i was like do you do xyz

01:37:35.880 and then she she started getting up like she just wanted to she wanted to say her piece and leave

01:37:41.480 but i will not allow an environmentalist to have the last word so that was really embarrassing and the 0.99

01:37:47.160 whole the bar started overhearing this shit oh god she waited till the end of the date like she was 1.00

01:37:53.000 like you're saying your goodbyes and she's like by the way your water bottle really so yeah so it was 0.99

01:37:59.240 like it was towards the end of the date because i i we we were there for i don't know two hours or

01:38:04.920 whatever and i was like hey uh the convo was good but i think like she wasn't really feeling it

01:38:11.800 whatever and then i was like okay well hey it was nice meeting you uh you know whatever

01:38:18.440 later and like as we're about to get up she's like one more thing that was that was pretty bad

01:38:24.760 um she saw the water bottle do you mean embarrassing for us or for them

01:38:29.240 that it just that was like mutually embarrassing i think um but it could it could i think embarrassing for

01:38:35.560 you oh or both i don't know well i don't know because i mean mine wasn't i mean whatever is it

01:38:41.240 why do you have what about someone something like that kind of happened to me like we had a we had a

01:38:45.960 good date i don't know it wasn't really a date kind of just like hung out and um at the end he was driving

01:38:52.920 me home and he's like by the way i'm a soundcloud rapper and i was like i was like okay and he said

01:39:00.600 do you want to listen to some of my music and i'm not i'm not going to say no i mean so i was like

01:39:05.480 yeah and it was just the worst stuff i've ever heard and i never saw him again because it was

01:39:10.920 just really uncomfortable and he kept asking me like five times if i liked it and i was like yeah

01:39:17.000 it was awful did he write any songs about you no it was like like a mixture of like screamo

01:39:23.320 like metal music and rap and i would have never expected it from him like he just seemed like a

01:39:29.080 totally normal guy but i guess he makes screamo rap and it wasn't for me i knew a soundcloud rapper

01:39:35.320 back in high school like early high school that was trying to date me and he wrote a couple songs

01:39:41.960 about me it was really sweet oh that's cute that actually reminds me that there was a situation

01:39:49.720 not too long ago where i tried to go on a date with this guy and he drove me back home after and

01:39:55.320 wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't let me get out of the car um i know that sounds horrible but he was like

01:39:59.880 hold on wait and he puts on he puts on the grease soundtrack and like locks the doors and i i swear

01:40:10.280 like from start to finish started like singing all i started like wait hold on like he had the the

01:40:17.800 seat like was it a c no like he pulled it up on like spotify or whatever and like from like

01:40:22.440 started playing every single song in the grease soundtrack how long were you in the car

01:40:26.600 well he like i kept saying like he's like way to know this one and then he put on like hopelessly

01:40:30.200 devoted to you and i was like i have to go and i actually started recording him secretly because

01:40:36.200 i couldn't believe i was like nobody's gonna believe me um yeah sorry the grease yeah so random

01:40:42.840 yeah like fully like the grease soundtrack and he's saying it yeah he was like belting it super high

01:40:47.640 pitch i was like kind of a green flag i'm not gonna let oh you should have heard it you think

01:40:51.640 that's a green i think that's a green flag no my stand was crawling in a car and a guy just

01:40:55.800 sitting there singing to you that you went on a date with no it wasn't like holding you hostage

01:41:02.280 he's like no no no and he kept like locking the door i'd like unlock and he's like no

01:41:06.280 like you got to hear this next one i was like i've watched grease before like i know what comes next

01:41:10.360 you don't have to sing it did he what about like that part where it's like tell me more tell me

01:41:15.080 did she put up a fight i would that would be a scary moment for me i mean when he first locked

01:41:21.400 the doors right when i went to go grab the handle that already scared me i was like i'm gonna get

01:41:25.400 out now and then he asked if i wanted to go another day another date and i said no

01:41:30.120 while you're in the car or like after oh yeah he was just kept texting me he was like so like sushi

01:41:35.320 and i was like so like no sorry what would be the worst musical to start singing while you're on a

01:41:41.320 a date with a girl oh wait and then i'm sorry to interrupt after that one he did what was it the

01:41:46.200 um pitch perfect that's what it was pitch like there was like one pitch perfect song

01:41:52.680 that's when it really got me he was like went from grease to pitch perfect i was like

01:41:56.600 so he was a theater kid i didn't think so i guess i don't know this was this like a hail mary 0.99

01:42:02.120 just like fuck it's not going well maybe if she hears me sing 0.98

01:42:10.120 i musicals from the 1970s or whatever or was it the 80s i don't know um damn yeah i don't know jaw 0.99

01:42:16.360 was to the floor he was blasting it i was like my neighbors can hear this like please shut the music

01:42:20.680 it would be cute if it wasn't like a first date like if she's in the musical i'm sorry if you're

01:42:25.880 married that's an insta divorce if if any women here if you're married to a dude and he starts 1.00

01:42:32.520 singing like grease lightning you gotta well like it's kind of cute if he's like into theater stuff

01:42:38.600 like that's cute i guess but he tries to come off he tries to come off very like like hood kind of so

01:42:45.640 that's when it was like

01:42:50.360 like he tries to be like he's like a sneaker head and like tries to be very like that's like

01:42:54.600 the opposite of mine no when he started singing hopelessly devoted to you i was like i'm out of

01:42:58.920 this car now like if it was at least a little bit predictable i'd think i'd give him the benefit of

01:43:03.320 the doubt getting like secondhand yeah no i had to i unfortunately showed it to all my friends i

01:43:08.280 immediately said you have the video so yeah it's on your tiktok god no i didn't post it anymore i

01:43:12.840 didn't want to like publicly i didn't want to publicly humiliate him but i definitely sent it to the

01:43:16.760 group chat and i was like can somebody just feel this with me it's like i was it was next level

01:43:21.960 secondhand embarrassment i watched that and i watched that in the group chat and then i was

01:43:27.720 like i can't i can't even i couldn't even finish it i watched the first five seconds and i was like

01:43:32.680 she was not stuck in there for like 10 minutes no it was definitely like a five minute long video

01:43:37.560 i was like gotta go you need compensation yeah no i i really do

01:43:41.880 poor guy what if a guy what if a guy uh just started i'm trying to think what what if he

01:43:51.480 started rapping would that have been better that's happened to me before too

01:43:59.240 i had a guy start freestyling and he asked me to hop in

01:44:04.040 he like put on like a tight beat on youtube and was like damn yeah that was kind of funny because

01:44:09.640 i feel like it's it's cringy but it's at least kind of funny like at least it's not that's like

01:44:14.600 a bonding experience you know it's like freestyle date yeah what would be the worst song though to

01:44:20.440 sing to a girl obviously devoted to you let's see we have cha here with message hey warren happy to

01:44:29.400 see you on the podcast i've enjoyed a lot of your content there is something enjoyable about

01:44:34.760 listening to someone who looks like a leftist say based do you want to respond to that that's fair

01:44:46.520 wait throw on you should throw in the jacket you know it'll take maybe i don't know uh we have

01:44:52.040 someone's looks like they bought a t-shirt thank you whoever did that okay moving on with the notes

01:44:57.560 here uh let's see that person was oh wait where am i okay we have uh oh back to kasumi uh what can

01:45:06.360 women do to become more desirable to men and vice versa why don't you start i think uh become a little

01:45:14.280 bit more feminine uh that would help a lot for men um i think women are taking the lead too often 0.98

01:45:21.320 when dating and in relationships and uh if you're not allowing the men to do these things then he

01:45:29.160 wouldn't feel needed so why would he choose you i would say so i think one of the first things is

01:45:35.800 yeah looking at yourself and how can you become more feminine i think being more feminine would make

01:45:41.880 you more desirable to men okay anybody else have any thoughts on that what can women do to become more 0.79

01:45:50.520 desirable to men and vice versa oh i agree with that 100 i think being feminine it's it's very

01:45:57.000 important and to exude those qualities for men i mean at least in the conservative realm of things

01:46:03.560 in the conservative dating area um it is important to exude those qualities as a woman as it is for 1.00

01:46:10.040 a man to uh show qualities of being a provider and being like being able to trust him to uh you know

01:46:20.360 in my case you know when i if i'm going on a date i want to make sure that you know they're

01:46:24.920 eventually in the future they'd be able to uh support me and i think those qualities are

01:46:29.960 important but for a man to be able to show those off i think the woman has to 1.00

01:46:34.280 trust him and learn that level of trust and for a man to be able to provide and be able to do those

01:46:41.400 things a woman does have to exude some feminine qualities to make him trust her in in return wait 0.99

01:46:47.400 the man i was to i'm sorry no no the the woman exudes feminine feminine qualities you know men will 1.00

01:46:54.200 um be more willing to provide for her such as you know wife wife qualities like what brian was saying

01:47:01.320 like willing to do uh certainly you know acts of service or favors i think men will be more willing to

01:47:08.200 commit themselves to a woman that will that will provide those those uh qualities i think though

01:47:14.680 if men were just more dominant and they can have a woman be in their feminine nature already i think 0.93

01:47:21.560 that's what helps be women or helps women be in their feminine nature because i feel like in my in 1.00

01:47:28.360 this in my past relationship i felt like it was always 50 50 that's why i kind of felt like i was in

01:47:33.960 touch with my masculine my masculinity side and my feminine side but not so much my feminine side

01:47:40.280 and now in this relationship that i'm in he just kind of took the lead so i've been already in my feminine

01:47:46.280 side since the gecko so i just feel like it's not more so uh women need to learn how to be more 0.99

01:47:53.640 feminine it's just men need to be learn how to take the lead and kind of open the doors and show

01:48:01.240 and just be the i don't know just be dominant i wouldn't know i 100 agree with that because it it

01:48:07.000 it takes you know we have to learn we have to be able to trust you or trust men and i can say from

01:48:11.960 my first relationship which was you know in high school um i looking back i felt more like the man

01:48:19.240 because he was he just exuded more feminine uh qualities because he was so emotional it felt like

01:48:27.080 it felt like i don't want to say it felt like i was dating a woman but sometimes it did feel like

01:48:31.000 and it's like i i didn't feel secure and you know that was my first relationship so i didn't know what

01:48:35.480 security or what healthiness looked like and the problems in that relationship were more than just

01:48:39.400 he acted more feminine like he he had you know uh it was a very toxic relationship very uh underneath

01:48:47.000 the surface but you know i didn't feel i didn't know how it felt to feel feminine so i totally agree

01:48:54.040 that the man does have to um prove himself as well i think it goes both ways i think both parties do their

01:49:00.120 share i think it takes men longer than you guys even think for for men to develop to that point

01:49:08.440 where they you have to the way i describe it is you have to become it before you can be it

01:49:13.320 and it has to be real in a sense when you're young in your 20s it's like you're playing a game in a way

01:49:18.200 you're trying to go through the motions to simulate these things because it's not cognitively embedded

01:49:24.520 almost and we're living in a culture as well i think many men in that age are afraid to show any

01:49:32.440 dominance of course they don't want to cross some lines so a good thing that women could do would be 1.00

01:49:37.800 to kind of give permission but i don't know how that would i i think that i'm sorry no go ahead

01:49:44.600 i think that would be more of like a a communication sort of like a situation for communicating within the

01:49:51.000 relationship and within you know going on dates i feel like that's part of the point of dating you

01:49:54.680 you get to know people to see if you are compatible if you are well aligned and that's why it's

01:49:58.280 important to get you know examine those those gender roles like from the beginning i feel like

01:50:03.320 to make sure especially when you're politically aligned and religious like very important like

01:50:07.640 you can avoid the dynamic that brian encountered the dynamic i encountered in the same scenario just

01:50:12.520 with jk rowling it's the same thing where they're just shocked that you would disagree and it's like

01:50:17.000 as if they've never encountered that before exactly and i think you know i mean i don't know i i think

01:50:23.960 like you know the the feminist movement in some way has also contributed to making men uh feel more

01:50:29.240 like retreat into their shells and feel scared and not be able to step up feel capable of stepping up

01:50:33.880 or feel comfortable stepping up and feeling dominant because they're worried they're going to be

01:50:37.240 to be accused of something like a me too movement or something dominant has a bad connotation though

01:50:41.240 yeah we need to change that i think it's important that we we change that in a more

01:50:44.920 positive way not toxic dominance but healthy dominance i think that's very important where's

01:50:51.000 the line where's the line yeah do you believe in toxic masculinity no okay interesting does anybody

01:50:58.040 believe in toxic masculinity here i think there can be toxic people who can be masculine i agree with

01:51:03.720 that there's toxic humanity toxic masculinity well i'm just saying it from like my culture i think hispanics

01:51:12.280 like in different um countries they can kind of have a little more of a machismo attitude where it's

01:51:21.320 oh i'm the man of the house so this is my rules that you can uh like it's just kind of that's where i

01:51:29.480 kind of believe in the toxic masculinity i can't say that word masculinity so where's the line between

01:51:35.960 that and dominance though and dominance i would say like just taking the lead of um just

01:51:45.960 i think it's the wording of it right because in the household that i've been in it's more so like

01:51:54.840 they were always talking there was always saying like oh i have to or you have to do that this is

01:51:59.880 what i am i am um i don't have a proper example because i don't know it's in spanish

01:52:07.960 i can't um but i would would you say in your sorry go ahead um because like let's say

01:52:18.840 trying to find it would they have respectful conversations about like how things were

01:52:22.280 going to be handled in your household no they were not respectful they would just more so be

01:52:27.160 like um like this is my way or no way you know what i mean it's more so that i'm on board with that

01:52:34.120 what's wrong with that well no but i think that can be toxic because then you're not really listening

01:52:39.720 to the other person right whereas in like dominance as you said it's more so the healthy dominance of like

01:52:48.360 um hey like i want to do this we have these conversations in the sense of like this is what

01:52:53.880 i want to provide for you rather than it only being one one way because of that person but women can be 1.00

01:53:01.080 my way or the highway as well so where is the masculinity part of this oh touche i don't know

01:53:11.400 i like what you said about men that they sometimes feel like they need to be careful expressing their

01:53:16.600 dominance because when they make a mistake i often feel like they have it a lot harder than women

01:53:22.520 like women oh if they make a mistake i'm just a girl it just happened but when a man 0.51

01:53:29.080 tries to do something or acts upon something if he chooses wrong usually society is way harsher on them

01:53:35.320 so they might be uh especially i think in the last years where of course feminism has been uh it's gotten 1.00

01:53:43.240 so strongly they feel like oh i probably i'm not gonna try anyway because they think i'm doing it

01:53:48.920 wrong anyways uh so i like that you mentioned that of course that that's why i also mentioned women uh 0.70

01:53:57.400 i don't know where it starts is it the men or the or the women but women should uh give space for them to 1.00

01:54:05.480 to uh act in their dominant energy because not everywhere it's not safe for them everywhere to

01:54:11.720 do that i think yeah that's a good point i thought it was really i don't want to oh no go ahead go

01:54:18.040 someone brought up the titanic example and that's one that comes up a lot on here i think that was lucas

01:54:24.360 is i know some guys they're like well that's it's and i want to ask them the ones that don't think

01:54:30.280 it's fair what would you've gotten in the lifeboat and many of them would probably be like yeah why

01:54:35.480 not you know but and then i want to ask what if your kids were on shore and they were going to hear

01:54:44.680 the story later and then there was going to be a movie made and you're like being depicted in the

01:54:49.000 movie now you live on it's like would you would you die for that you know well what's your answer

01:54:54.040 to that would you would you get on the lifeboat try to get on the lifeboat no or would you stay with

01:54:58.760 the sinking no but everyone's probably going to say that but no i think because there's it's as

01:55:04.360 unfair as it is it's the same reason you'd be you'd be storming a beach or whatnot or or drafted

01:55:12.600 well this is where i challenge me diverge a bit from you uh warren i mean uh so my own personal

01:55:19.560 decision if i was on the titanic and this is of course assuming like i i have an option to choose

01:55:26.280 to go on it like there's not like other men who are basically like nope stay back uh even then i'm

01:55:34.120 like i'm fucking fighting to get on that i don't care so the guy in the movie you would do that was 0.97

01:55:39.720 there uh it's been a minute since i've seen titanic he grabs the kid so he can get on the lifeboat 0.97

01:55:45.560 and save himself if there's no repercussions oh yeah i will if there's a uh the most innocent baby

01:55:52.280 i'm gonna punt the baby and take the seat no i mean i'm i'm about self-preservation obviously

01:55:58.440 there's limits like there's certain things i i suppose i wouldn't do to like if it comes at like

01:56:05.000 yeah well it's kind of like that question uh would you annihilate everybody else to save your family

01:56:11.880 your wife and your children that's a different i probably would actually wait hold on let me think 0.98

01:56:17.160 about that that might sound really bad i was just gonna say so you would kill the entire human race 0.99

01:56:21.160 yeah it is yeah yeah so okay the question is would i get on the life preserver on the titanic

01:56:26.040 yeah yeah sure it's like an honorability thing like would you want to would you want to be the guy

01:56:32.280 who jumped on the lifeboat while someone else died like you would have to be that for the rest of your

01:56:36.840 life yeah guys in the titanic movie like i can do it with guilt the one i can do you know what's better

01:56:42.840 than guilt still being alive the guys that are depicted in the movie on the titanic that are

01:56:48.280 jumping on the lifeboat now over 100 years later there's dudes clowning them to this day because

01:56:54.280 they're the guy that jumped on the lifeboat if you don't mind that that's up to you if if you don't

01:57:00.360 mind living with that if you don't mind that being your legacy then that's cool what's the point of 0.89

01:57:04.840 being alive legacy legacy well i look i suppose um i'm in fucking i'm in a movie with leonard 0.97

01:57:15.000 di caprio fuck yeah i don't know i mean you're gonna go back and re-watch the movie and be like 0.90

01:57:19.320 oh i don't know did they look bad did they look really bad yeah they look really bad say a word to 0.99

01:57:25.720 him no i would fucking sit there like he just sits there like you i would be double finger like oh 0.98

01:57:33.720 but to be fair this is like a totally different like social order back then where there were more 0.98

01:57:39.800 traditional expectations like now if it's there's a i'm sitting across like but the but the girl

01:57:44.760 sitting across from me on the lifeboat judging me she's like she's a porn actress and she's like you're 0.95

01:57:50.360 not upholding your traditional male standards i'm like well neither i don't you're you're literally 0.99

01:57:55.480 a prostitute i don't care okay but you should shouldn't you be the change that you want to 1.00

01:58:00.520 see in the world what's the change that i want to see in the world what is it do you tell me 0.97

01:58:05.320 do you want to the world to be back like i was more sorry go ahead more like it was during the

01:58:10.680 titanic times when um the women on the boat were like uh chased uh you know modest women and the man is

01:58:19.000 like super masculine like yes i'm going to save this woman and not jump on yeah are women uh holding up

01:58:25.320 their end of the bargain on that but i'll answer a question but are women holding up their end of 1.00

01:58:29.240 the bargain on that in what you like the imaginary world yeah currently currently you said all women

01:58:34.280 are chased and blah blah no that's not the case currently that's like in the imaginary world that's

01:58:39.880 but we'd have to analyze at the individual level as well yeah sure generalization well and also i just

01:58:44.760 because women reject their traditional gender roles it doesn't necessarily mean mean men must

01:58:50.280 also reject theirs but um i i reject the disposability of males so um i think uh yeah i would

01:59:05.640 i'm against it i guess that's the only way i can answer your question i don't think men should like

01:59:10.600 die for strangers basically i think there's an argument to be made should men die for like their

01:59:14.680 family their children uh maybe their wife but if there's a war and let's say there's a repeat of d-day

01:59:23.000 we don't go just if we don't who who will who will them yeah well you know it's it's interesting i mean

01:59:30.200 maybe i'm being a bit pedantic here i think the united states involvement in world war ii is a bit

01:59:34.680 overstated uh like russia would have just russia would have wiped the floor with germany but that's another

01:59:40.840 conversation um uh there's no wrong yeah it's a really fascinating yeah um

01:59:52.680 it's difficult because i mean my position on war is i find most wars uh even even many of historical

01:59:59.560 wars like just kind of pointless uh world war ii there's a there is a like more stronger ethical

02:00:06.360 moral argument there world war one kind of totally pointless some uh archduke franz fernand was

02:00:13.240 assassinated and that had like a cascading effect where like all these uh like european powers gone 0.98

02:00:18.600 anyways uh vietnam was stupid i'd feel no like national duty or pride to like go bomb like southeast 0.99

02:00:27.640 asians that was kind of ridiculous invaded us like a defensive war uh and they had to enact a draft 1.00

02:00:34.920 should they be drafted should women you know what would you want them running around with guns 1.00

02:00:42.040 no offense the dutch woman yes she can i feel like you could handle yourself i shouldn't have said it

02:00:47.000 like that but i mean the thing is i you're good i don't want to be in the world while i do consider

02:00:51.720 myself more conservative i have some diverged divergences and so far as i i put my i consider

02:00:58.120 myself like a male advocate some people call this like men's rights advocacy so i put that beyond

02:01:05.400 like conservative positions because uh conservatives and feminists are actually similar in a lot of 1.00

02:01:11.080 ways but uh what do you mean in how conservatives and feminists are that are similar uh so i think 0.61

02:01:21.560 well it depends what brand of feminism we're kind of looking at but i think like there are there's a 1.00

02:01:27.240 component of feminist movement that looks towards men's agency to like uh it's but there's a blame 0.98

02:01:34.280 that goes on like it's men's fault men need to fix it whereas conservatives will say won't put a blame

02:01:40.440 on men but they'll still say like agency falls on men men need to be uh the ones like fixing problems and

02:01:46.760 like uh being responsible in like leadership positions and like wartime and being soldiers and so

02:01:53.720 forth i just don't think it comes from i think it comes from the fabric of reality it's not coming

02:01:57.880 necessarily from society it looks like that it's just it's just it's an unfair aspect right it is

02:02:03.160 baked within the fabric of reality itself and yeah it has always existed so i but i don't know like

02:02:09.400 there's probably definitely been historical wars probably like smaller scale conflicts where it was just

02:02:14.040 like there's a belligerent an aggressor who's like we're going to conquer your land

02:02:19.320 uh and then like the people the soldiers in the defensive position there i think there's like

02:02:26.920 good argument to be made that these men should step up for the defense of their land and by extension

02:02:32.760 like historically there are a lot of like war crimes uh committed towards women like essay grape and 0.86

02:02:39.960 for example so like probably uh a cohort of men in these societies don't want to see their women either

02:02:47.800 their wives or just their uh country women i guess getting graped uh and then they just want to 0.97

02:02:53.800 and then if they do lose the war the men are going to get killed anyway so it's like that's kind of

02:02:58.200 compelling but like would i want to like if it was the late 1960s early 1970s would i want to get

02:03:05.240 shipped off to vietnam no no no like yeah i and i wouldn't feel like patriotic if i went to like

02:03:12.680 vietnam and just i don't know about specific war i don't i didn't i wouldn't have seen the purpose but

02:03:19.480 um i agree with that there might have been a more noble cause like in world war ii anyways i feel like

02:03:24.280 i'm just kind of sorry avoiding no no you're fine i was just so did i i don't know if i even answered

02:03:29.880 your question though i think i was just yapping i'm intrigued in the difference between conservative

02:03:35.080 or the comparison of conservatives and feminists and how they're similar yeah yeah um i think 0.82

02:03:44.600 the best way they're they're obviously not the same but there are a lot of similarities i mean

02:03:50.280 maybe you've heard of the what's it called the horseshoe what is what's that called horseshoe theory

02:03:58.520 where like the political spectrum like as i i could be misstating this as you get to some of the

02:04:07.000 extremes of like the left or the right they tend to have like a lot of similarities actually i i'm not

02:04:14.520 a like political guy so i'm probably butchering that explanation but i maybe to bring it back to your

02:04:20.040 point what weren't you asking something on this or am i just gone about draft or what lost my train of

02:04:26.200 thought yeah it initially started with her asking if you wanted to be the change you want oh yeah

02:04:33.960 well i mean i don't know um

02:04:39.400 i i think when it comes to the titanic specifically uh i would have no objections

02:04:47.560 uh men men opting to try to self-preserve their life like i wouldn't like i would if if it's like oh

02:04:55.320 there's a woman i'm going to give my seat on the life draft for a woman or a stranger as well it's 1.00

02:05:01.880 like it's logic yeah it's less that she's a woman it's like i would also not give it to another man too

02:05:09.320 um but there would be a social like pressure component of like women and children first so 1.00

02:05:16.040 if i could opt to take the seat over a woman i would i guess it just comes down to how you want people to see you

02:05:23.080 how you want others to see you and like down in history do you want to be seen as the guy who

02:05:27.800 saved himself and uh as a result of that there was women there was women and children 0.74

02:05:35.000 oh look i don't care like i'm dead i'm not gonna like i don't think you should be a piece of 0.99

02:05:39.720 shit while you're alive but i think it's fine to like want to self-preserve here here's the here's my 0.99

02:05:45.720 position that will probably piss off the whole panel when if there's uh i think the let's say i'm with 1.00

02:05:52.440 my girlfriend or wife or whatever and one of us has to die she can die like there's a bullet and 0.69

02:06:00.440 hypothetical bullet right one of us has to take the bullet she can take the bullet you would have 1.00

02:06:05.960 to live with that for the rest of your life though you know what i'm saying like like if you don't

02:06:11.960 care about that i guess that's your life but for some people they just could not live with that like

02:06:17.400 my wife died my wife died and i'm still alive my child died and i'm still alive like i'm still in

02:06:23.160 this world i still have the audacity to like go and live my life and like stuff like that but the

02:06:29.160 people who i love most in my life who i made a commitment to like that they died at the like

02:06:34.520 to save me and i'm still alive if you're saying i would feel i would have bad feelings

02:06:40.360 no it's not about feelings exactly it's also how people who know you see you you're like a public

02:06:48.600 figure it's how everyone would see you um how you would go down in your history

02:06:55.880 well i think it's actually i'll go down in history as being incredibly honest because most people would

02:07:00.360 virtue signal on this point but when they're in the actual heat of the moment and like a lot of

02:07:06.200 people would virtue say oh yeah i would sacrifice my life for my girlfriend or wife or whatever

02:07:11.160 i think most men are actually honest when they say that but there's probably a cohort of men

02:07:15.160 who will virtue signal and say yeah i'd be willing to sacrifice my life for my girlfriend but like for

02:07:19.880 example andrew tate he says oh it's my duty the reason that i get to have this traditional dynamic

02:07:26.600 with women where they're like doing all the xyz things for me and i'm going to be dominant they're 1.00

02:07:31.480 going to be submissive is because i'm going to be willing to protect her and if that means

02:07:35.480 potentially dying for her then that's why the woman should be submissive is that's one he probably 1.00

02:07:42.040 has other arguments too i actually don't believe him andrew tate dates has multiple women like he he's a

02:07:50.520 unidirectional uh polyam like he they're all uh exclusive to him but he sees multiple women right 0.73

02:08:00.040 i'm confident that he would sacrifice any of his women to continue living like he's a it's a total 0.99

02:08:08.120 virtue signal maybe not his favorite one did i say andrew wilson no i said andrew tate okay yes andrew

02:08:14.600 tate would not sacrifice his life for one of his many girlfriends so he he claims to it's his job to

02:08:23.240 protect therefore that required in order to protect that requires the authority to protect i'm not

02:08:28.840 saying i agree with them yeah but do you plan to have multiple girls or just one no but i'm saying

02:08:33.560 that likes what i am saying is that i think i would believe a majority of men who say they'd be willing

02:08:39.160 to die for their wife in this sort of hypothetical scenario but i think there is a cohort of men who

02:08:45.000 will virtue signal and lie about it but they wouldn't i'm just willing to say no i would not

02:08:51.880 be willing to take a bullet for my wife or girlfriend but there's also men who say that

02:08:57.480 and they actually mean it and don't you think it would make your girl uh want to be more submissive

02:09:03.320 to you if she knew that you would take your so you're saying i should lie no not lie i actually mean

02:09:08.040 it oh so just change my world view want to die yeah but i'm just not because like like i'm just not

02:09:16.760 why but one day you might have a kid and i've experienced this sure and when you have a kid

02:09:22.200 it change it changes and you will and suddenly you'll feel that you're like whoa i would give

02:09:27.400 myself for someone else oh yeah so to be clear like for a child yes separation for the child yes wife

02:09:35.080 nah what if she's your relationship huh what if she's pregnant oh we're gonna get into a 1.00

02:09:40.360 abortion now you wouldn't save her life if she's because that's your child too you know what i'm

02:09:49.400 saying probably it's it's it makes it more complicated how far how far along

02:09:56.280 you can see a life a life is a life no matter what part in the womb what's that a life well

02:10:04.200 it starts at conception i agree with that but i suppose it would have like some she's two days

02:10:09.320 pregnant oh yeah she can take the bullet four months where does it where does it start where 1.00

02:10:15.960 now it's like okay this is my child i'm not saying it's so i'm i'm gonna go ahead for the sake of the

02:10:20.360 well i'm gonna head and grant that life begins at conception so yes she literally the the sperm 1.00

02:10:27.720 implants or whatever the she can like yes still take the bullet from that point on at what point 1.00

02:10:33.080 does that change yeah that's what i'm saying yeah where do you draw the line i'm just to be clear that

02:10:38.120 i'm not making i'm not making or taking a position on abortion by saying this but like the head's popping 0.99

02:10:43.720 out like and the doctor just goes crazy he's like i'm gonna fucking stab your baby i'll be like 0.99

02:10:49.160 like just jump in front of the knife or some shit i don't know some crazy chicks in the 1.00

02:10:54.920 fucking operating room with us but you were your baby you were saying in the future though if you 1.00

02:10:59.400 had a kid and it was you or the kid who had to die yeah would you die for your child yeah for my kid 1.00

02:11:05.880 yes just not for your wife yeah because i could just get another wife okay just not for your pregnant 0.99

02:11:10.840 wife who's pregnant with your twin sons twin sons twin sons twin sons oh man it's hard it's hard

02:11:19.080 uh i don't know i would do as much as i can't this is like the jordan peterson cop i would do as

02:11:27.240 much as i could to not be i would i've made so many mistakes so many mistakes i would just you know

02:11:37.080 do everything in my power to not be in that that position would you want your wife to die for you 0.73

02:11:42.120 would i want her to die for me sure that'd be yes that's a ride or die like but you're 1.00

02:11:49.560 about the ride or die though she's probably no i don't have i don't want to be ride or die she has

02:11:54.600 to be she has to be right why does she owe you that loyalty then if you're not going to owe that

02:11:58.520 loyalty because i believe in unfair dynamics okay i don't believe in fairness what's that it's a bit

02:12:06.840 feminine of you how's that feminine wait hold on let me you want people say look look go ahead

02:12:12.600 say that you want her to die for you but you won't die for her of course but here's the thing

02:12:19.000 i don't want to die for her well i wouldn't not date her but if she's like brian i accept that you 0.81

02:12:26.360 will not take a bullet for me i love you so much i'll take a bullet for you hell why would i not but

02:12:32.840 why would i not do it i don't care most women wouldn't anyways so it doesn't determine like

02:12:39.480 how if you date her or not if she take a bullet for you or not it's not a deal breaker is what

02:12:44.040 you're saying no if she was like not willing to take a bullet for me i wouldn't because i don't

02:12:48.120 think men look to women to be protectors of course not so she's like yeah i wouldn't take a bullet for 0.55

02:12:52.680 you i'd be like okay it's better if you would but i don't care it's better if you would but look uh

02:12:59.560 here i'll say it like this because i get i get attacked for this position brian you're so feminine 0.95

02:13:04.520 felicity thank you you're such a feminine man you're a beta male you're a beta male brian for refusing to 0.96

02:13:12.520 die for a woman but if we look back at some historical uh some some men in history i don't

02:13:19.720 think we would categorize them as betas and these men would undoubtedly sacrifice women for themselves

02:13:27.400 genghis khan had hundreds of concubines and wives

02:13:33.480 if he was presented with this hypothetical mr genghis khan

02:13:39.880 you currently have you probably he doesn't even know the name of like half his wives and 0.96

02:13:43.880 shit he doesn't even know the names of them you're not you think genghis khan i know hold on 0.93

02:13:49.320 hold on i know i'm working on it now you think genghis khan is going to be like well i'm 0.99

02:13:54.280 the leader of like mongolia and i've conquered all this land blah blah blah and i've got like

02:14:00.200 you're replaceable and i've got a million wives and he's gonna like get rid of the wife before 1.00

02:14:07.400 he gets rid of himself i genghis khan was an alpha male but that makes sense genghis khan but we can't

02:14:14.680 say he's a beta male but the example that you're using is that this man just like with andrew tate this

02:14:19.160 man women are disposable to him because he has multiple partners correct wouldn't it be different 0.95

02:14:24.120 wouldn't you argue that it could be different if you just commit yourself to one person

02:14:28.520 this is well yeah but then that would because you haven't thrown out a scenario yet where it's just

02:14:33.880 given an example of another individual who has committed himself to one person it's all it's only

02:14:39.080 been multiple women which that would make that would make women less valuable to that man wouldn't you 1.00

02:14:45.640 think he wouldn't value them as much because he has so many of them yeah i mean i would tend to

02:14:51.000 agree with you that men who like have multiple wait hold on so they're the women are less valuable 0.64

02:14:58.200 than him is what you know what i'm saying is that because he he has so many wives or so many partners

02:15:04.600 he doesn't value them he doesn't hold them to a no i think you can still value them the standard

02:15:10.600 not as highly though i don't think he values them as you would if you were in a committed

02:15:13.880 relationship just one-on-one sure that you have for that one person like how only fans or uh corn

02:15:20.280 stars rather you know how they you know they don't you know what i mean i mean i would agree with i

02:15:25.320 don't think i disagree so okay a man who has one wife is going to value that one wife more than a

02:15:31.640 man who has like four wives is going to like value he's he's probably going to have less value he's

02:15:39.560 going to say yeah he's going to say oh this one can go this one can go i'll get more they're

02:15:42.280 disposable if he has multiple but if it's just one you know if he's has the right the the mindset for

02:15:47.320 that you know committed to one woman he'll think differently he won't see women as easily disposable

02:15:53.800 yeah i mean i would tend to agree that if you have one of a thing you're probably more likely to value

02:16:00.840 the one of the thing that you have so if you have one wife yeah you wouldn't take the the bullet for 0.99

02:16:07.560 her no okay yeah okay but i'm just the the the reason i brought up gang is con was because of the

02:16:14.360 criticisms of it's very feminine or beta to be unwilling to die for a woman but i giving i guess

02:16:22.200 it's like very extreme examples like looking at these examples of like okay you would i don't think

02:16:28.280 you would categorize gang is con who would i mean look out we probably don't have historical records

02:16:34.600 if he's well i mean we know enough about him to probably make a reasonable determination that he

02:16:41.000 would not sacrifice himself for one of his like concubines or wives well that was probably he probably 0.96

02:16:47.080 fucking killed some of them my point was that you would want her to want to die for you that's what 0.98

02:16:53.560 that's why i said that's kind of feminine of you because you're like i'm not gonna die but 0.99

02:16:57.800 she can die for me and i would want that why i i suppose it would be self-serving 0.83

02:17:06.600 to have a woman who would be like wouldn't that be better to have a woman who's willing to die for you 1.00

02:17:15.080 sure because that would mean that like let's say there's a okay there's a bullet boom we maybe we

02:17:22.040 both dodge it but if she's a hundred percent gonna take it for me why would i not want but you said

02:17:27.880 even if she's pregnant like really why you guys got to try to get me in a trap with the abortion 1.00

02:17:33.720 thing basically she has a really big labia brian nope nope so feminine of you i don't think i don't 1.00

02:17:44.200 think it's i don't think it's feminine i'm just kidding uh i actually think in a lot of ways

02:17:51.000 it would be

02:17:54.120 it's well i don't know if it's it's maybe neither feminine nor masculine but i think it's more cut

02:17:59.960 throat this desire to uh want to preserve your own life i think i use the word feminine because it's 0.92

02:18:11.960 like wanting to be protected no it's not that i want to be protected it's a unwillingness on my part

02:18:20.280 to i don't want to die for a woman so the desire is to be cut through it 1.00

02:18:27.480 i don't know if it's necessarily cut throat but can you just say that don't you say like

02:18:34.040 men have duties women have duties stuff like that you say that uh yeah i think sure so what's the man's

02:18:40.600 duty uh to to women or to society the women in a relationship yeah sure uh provide and protect 0.99

02:18:49.480 okay so wouldn't it be protecting if you are willing to take a bullet for her wouldn't that

02:18:54.920 be yes it would be protecting but there are there are for example you would agree that it would be

02:18:59.880 providing to become a trillionaire and like that would be the ultimate manifestation of providing for

02:19:05.400 a woman to become a billion or like billionaire if you're spending that money on your family 1.00

02:19:11.880 yeah but like for example let's say i want to have like a good work-life balance and i could make an

02:19:18.440 extra hundred thousand dollars a year if i work overtime but i choose to not work overtime that would be

02:19:23.480 like a rejection of my role as a provider to some degree are you still providing able to provide for

02:19:29.800 your yeah still but it would be providing that it would be uh i would still there would be a baseline

02:19:36.280 of provisioning but i could provide more similarly there would be a baseline of protection and the the

02:19:43.560 extreme of protection would be sacrificing your life for your wife so in the event of a house invasion

02:19:50.120 i'm gonna get my gun and try to dispatch the home invader but like in a hypothetical extreme

02:19:56.840 hypothetical scenario where it's like one of you has to die she can die you're saying you would

02:20:06.280 take on the home intruder you would take on the home intruder yes instead of your wife so you so you 0.80

02:20:11.560 would put your life at a risk for your girl that you love but there's a component of i'm also at my own

02:20:18.040 life is at risk if there's a home intruder yeah but you're but a component of that would be i'm i'm by

02:20:23.960 extension also protecting my children and my wife but if you don't have children then yeah i'm also 0.99

02:20:30.840 protecting my wife but i'm also protecting me i'm not just going to be a little pussy if there's a home 0.99

02:20:35.480 invader and just be like oh honey you go deal with it no okay i'm gonna get my gun and i'll deal with it 0.99

02:20:42.440 but you would be that way if there's that situation where one of your life is getting taken you would be

02:20:47.640 that little p word and like okay you can take the bullet honey yes that's why i've been saying for

02:20:54.040 the past 30 minutes okay that doesn't make sense because in one situation you're like yes i'm taking

02:20:58.280 on this intruder that could kill me in the other one you're like no honey you take on the bullet

02:21:02.280 that will kill you so as soon as it's guaranteed that you're dying you're immediately just like nope

02:21:06.280 that's all you but if it's like up in the air a coin flip you know you have a chance to fight it off

02:21:10.520 you're you're you will defend your base it's the hypothetical right like if if you look at the

02:21:15.000 trolley problem or the trolley dilemma for example in what world is anybody ever going to literally

02:21:20.840 have like there's a there's you're all of a sudden uh like on a train track and you can pull a lever

02:21:28.040 and you can divert it to kill one person instead of five this is never going to happen it's just a

02:21:33.160 hypothetical situation well wouldn't you argue that getting shot or being faced with the bullet is more

02:21:36.760 likely than that that scenario of being tied down to a trolley to a to train tracks yeah sure the

02:21:43.960 hypothetical yeah sure that's more likely to happen but i i mean i i the scenario where it's like

02:21:50.920 one person has to move in front of the bullet and to block i mean it's not realistic with timing

02:21:57.560 considering how i don't think that that's really that's why i use the titanic example what would you

02:22:03.240 do warren you're gonna you're gonna get on the life life boat are you gonna what are you gonna do

02:22:08.920 acknowledging that many people will say that they would and there's no way to know it

02:22:15.000 i'm gonna say i would though yes you would get on the life boat or you'd stay on sorry i would not

02:22:20.440 you'd stay on the titanic and sink okay i i don't i don't have i don't have external to me push back

02:22:30.600 for anybody who would choose to do that um aside from like uh i think it is a sad state of affairs

02:22:39.640 that like i live i believe in a higher power as well though so i i believe how you live it's not

02:22:45.960 just what you do but how you do it in a way that's more profound than we can even articulate and

02:22:50.040 understand let me ask you a follow-up question warren uh how do you categorize yourself politically

02:22:55.480 are you conservative moderate liberal i don't know i'll pull a peterson on that so on some things

02:23:01.560 i'm probably more conservative okay so let's say your titanic situation you could choose like 0.98

02:23:10.520 person b person b what the fuck person a you can opt to take person a's seat only that person's seat 0.91

02:23:19.240 on the life preserver you know person a's seat uh this person is completed completely ideal ideologically 0.99

02:23:28.360 opposed to you and you know they're a bad person and they're also a child abuser under that circumstance 0.93

02:23:37.400 do you take their seat it's not it's not about that it's a by the way that was a ridiculous 0.77

02:23:44.440 i think your point though yeah but what you do in that person it's as someone mentioned the legacy

02:23:50.680 your grandchild your grandchildren view you how history views you how a higher power views you

02:23:55.000 how everyone on that lifeboat views you it's not about the person whose seat you're taking so that

02:24:00.040 they can die because they're a child abuser it's about something much deeper than that it's so that your

02:24:05.960 relatives the guys who stormed normandy it wasn't about an individual a single and it's about

02:24:13.320 something much larger that i think is deeply ingrained within them that caused them to be

02:24:17.000 willing to do that in which way and we can't grapple with that today in the same way because we've kind

02:24:22.200 of lost that that was i so this is where i struggle with the normandy example though is that certainly

02:24:30.600 there were many many veterans in world war ii who were exceptionally brave and noble uh but i i do wonder

02:24:39.480 that they're probably also um like i i wonder if there's some degree of the words uh evading me

02:24:50.120 of storytelling that goes on when it comes to the sacrifices of young men related to like the norm

02:24:56.840 normandy landing or like other military conflicts like the actual process that like i don't know if like

02:25:05.240 during the like say somebody was shot during the normandy landing and then they like live for another

02:25:11.480 like 30 minutes and they're bleeding out and they're dying i'm not sure for like what's going through

02:25:17.000 their head in that moment is like i'm doing this for my country like i have this sense of pride like

02:25:25.640 glory like they i don't think in that moment they're like glory i think they're like calling out for their 0.90

02:25:31.720 mothers and they're like oh my god i'm coming from fucking nebraska and i had like betty sue i don't 0.97

02:25:39.080 disagree and now i'm in fucking what's your point though my point is is that we perhaps romanticize 0.97

02:25:45.720 the glory of war and i do think there there's plenty of men who are brave and they go out 0.93

02:25:49.960 fucking guns blazing and that's badass but i think like probably the majority of men who die in war

02:25:56.040 it's like cold and alone in some trench in a foreign territory or whatever it is i agree and 0.98

02:26:03.560 it's not glamorous and there's no glory and and or they're not even they're literally just they're 0.99

02:26:10.280 fucking smoking a cigarette they're eating their uh their their ration and like fucking a shell just 0.99

02:26:16.840 implodes their face and they're dead instantly and there's not even a thought process of like 1.00

02:26:21.320 glory or anything like their sacrifice to the country uh that that should be uh respected

02:26:32.440 but i in that moment on the individual level i don't i don't know i don't see it i think you're

02:26:37.640 right yeah if a bomb lands on your head you're not going to think about much in that moment uh brigadier

02:26:43.480 nicholson for example at dunkirk they they said draw the fire knowing they gave that command knowing 13 000

02:26:49.640 men were committing suicide they had they not done that they would not have been able to save 300 000

02:26:55.160 they have lost their almost their entire army was that the right call was this was it you said world

02:27:01.160 war world war ii don't know which i made the order to brigadier okay yeah yeah so wait what's the

02:27:07.800 question basically you sacrifice the few to save the many is what he's asking 13 000 men to draw the

02:27:13.240 german fire away so that they could pull 300 000 men off okay save their entire army yeah i mean i do think

02:27:18.840 there's a component of masculinity where it's like i'm talking about well where you're like

02:27:25.720 sacrificing while she was making the point of there's one right move on the chessboard yeah don't

02:27:30.760 make this move you lose your army oh you lose your entire army minds when the bomb sure okay well now

02:27:38.520 we're getting away from the titanic example though what leads men to be willing to take part in such an

02:27:44.360 endeavor what leads them you tell me i mean this is a more philosophical question that's why that

02:27:50.040 goes back to the titanic example the same thing that would motivate you to not

02:27:55.400 do what you're but like the the men who died on the titanic why do you think they are they like

02:28:01.640 but why do you think they did our lifeboats and they just stood there's not like a titanic

02:28:05.800 men's remembrance maybe there is exactly there's not there's not their sacrifice whereas we have

02:28:11.800 like memorial day we have veterans you know uh soldiers tend to be uh you know have have holidays

02:28:19.720 dedicated to them but like just a dude on the titanic it's like so you only do it if there's like here

02:28:25.480 make a compelling argument for why i should not they're honored within their family within their

02:28:30.200 family like how this is my grandfather who died on the titanic for my grandma like that's what

02:28:37.080 matters to them yeah but like their children at what point does does okay let's say you're the main

02:28:43.800 provider for your family and you're on the titanic and i know if i die on the titanic just the vert

02:28:50.680 just by virtue of my death that's going to be extremely alarming to my wife let's say i have kids to

02:28:56.200 my i have parents i have uh siblings that's going to be really hurtful to them and then let's say i'm

02:29:02.840 the main provider too uh my children are going to grow up potentially in poverty my wife is going to 0.70

02:29:08.440 grow up struggling so i don't know if the trade-off of wow my my family is going to be like wow he was so

02:29:17.160 honorable like i'm looking at it from i don't know if it's more of a utilitarian perspective me remaining

02:29:23.800 alive is going to serve a greater purpose to my family it's going to avoid the i get your point

02:29:30.600 it's going to it's going to avoid the pain and suffering that they deal with as it relates to

02:29:35.480 just my death and then like i'm going to be gone can't provide for my kids and family uh but uh like

02:29:43.240 they the the exchange would be but if i do die and all those bad things also happen 0.99

02:29:48.920 they will feel a sense of like wow my father died with honor fuck fuck honor but if you're 0.99

02:29:56.200 i'm going to survive i'm going to do what it takes to survive for my family but that's why they're not 0.99

02:30:01.640 checking okay how indispensable are you to your family before we let you on this boat it doesn't

02:30:05.880 matter if you're upper class middle class poor all the men do the same thing right because that's

02:30:11.880 what we do what we do well i would just reject that we have to we have to why do we have to going

02:30:19.160 back to brigadier nicholson what's the right move but i think it's unfair to say like okay they had to

02:30:25.800 but let me ask you warren let's say you were um i wouldn't want to i get your point no no you wouldn't

02:30:30.360 want to but you would do it regardless right i wouldn't i i would not want to

02:30:35.960 risk i would not yeah i would not want to throw i would not want to throw away i don't what's the

02:30:44.280 point yeah it's it's a deeper it sounds crazy no it's just i wouldn't to survive it's a biological

02:30:50.120 imperative i wouldn't get i wouldn't be able to live with myself if you let your girl die then who are

02:30:56.200 you going to provide for i would probably commit suicide like the guy you wouldn't wait wait what 1.00

02:31:02.680 happens in the movie he shoots himself oh because he was like oh my god people think i'm a pussy 1.00

02:31:07.000 because i survived fuck them i think it's deeper than that we i don't think we can really understand 0.99

02:31:12.200 the human soul in this way really it eats away at us and i i maybe it's because i believe in a higher 0.99

02:31:17.000 power i think that evil is not a social construct it exists and it can creep in what you think you

02:31:21.400 think intentions and often we can logic our way into bad decisions because sorry it's when illogical

02:31:29.320 behavior saves you is what is intriguing and that's where spirituality for me lies it's the

02:31:35.000 only explanation we were talking about with brigadier nicholson but churchill saying no we're going to

02:31:40.920 fight to the last man when the last one is choking their own blood which is not logical everyone around

02:31:46.200 them saying do the logical move what's the they're making your argument what's the point of going down

02:31:51.160 fighting when we can appease with hitler surrender and live and he said it's better to die

02:31:59.320 defending the temples of your of your ancestors that will allow your forebears to rise again one day 0.99

02:32:07.000 but i think the calculus here is a little bit different because if we're looking so

02:32:11.400 uh if i take somebody else's seat in the life preserver on the titanic only one other like it's

02:32:19.400 one life to one life whereas like there are i don't know if it's a totally fair comparison or

02:32:26.360 equivocal to say okay well if we sacrifice 10 000 soldiers to save a hundred hundreds of thousands

02:32:33.400 of soldiers that's something commonly done in warfare where it's like well okay it wouldn't be one

02:32:38.840 life though because it's all the men don't do it unless you're the only one and that's what makes you

02:32:45.960 lose your legacy wait all the men the men voluntarily stay back except the one who doesn't and that's

02:32:54.040 why all the women sit there and stare at it well i mean i'm very much okay with women disagree like

02:33:03.160 giving me oh my god you're i'm okay like i'm not but i would not social pressure uh or disapproval like

02:33:14.040 women's disapproval is not going to be sufficient enough for me to be willing to die because of women's 1.00

02:33:22.440 disapproval i was using that as no no no i know i know an example of it's something it's much

02:33:26.840 deeper than just the women on the lifeboat looking at you you mentioned the word evil though do you

02:33:30.920 think it's it would be it's evil for a man to get on the life preserver instead of a woman 0.99

02:33:38.600 in that case i mean to be logically consistent i mean i was trying to make the point of it's easy to

02:33:43.480 logic your way into evil i'm not sure i mean it is self-preservation i'm and it's unfair but it's

02:33:50.680 so i'm not sure if evil would be the right word for it but i think it goes against something deeper

02:33:56.680 i bring in the idea of the kids what if your kids were on shore on shore and they would know

02:34:03.560 that would be enough for me and if that would be enough for you then it shows you

02:34:08.200 the magnitude of that decision about this is something deeper even if you don't have kids

02:34:13.880 oh yeah i mean i i would be prepared though to say uh and if my position isn't clear even if i had

02:34:21.800 nobody in my life i would still shake that option you'd be more likely if you had no one in your life

02:34:27.480 that's my point to to what if you did have kids and they were gonna and you would come home to them

02:34:33.160 and they would know and that would be your legacy if we go down let's just metaphorically let's just

02:34:37.720 for the thought experiment it would go down into history and then you'd be in this movie in 2012

02:34:42.440 or whatever and they're depicting you on screen and that's how you're going to be remembered you're

02:34:46.840 saying it doesn't matter to you and i can understand that that's a logical argument why would

02:34:50.200 you're dead who cares oh okay uh wait so okay there's so you're saying like but when i'm still

02:34:56.440 alive is what i'm saying and in that moment that would make me take a different course of action

02:35:02.360 what so just to be clear like when i say i don't like it could very well be the case like being

02:35:07.160 labeled a coward uh that would bring some degree of shame it's not that i'm saying that there wouldn't

02:35:15.960 potentially be guilt or shame but i think my desire to like assume say i have a family right

02:35:23.240 my desire to survive for the benefit of my family and then also i'm i'm not going to virtue signal the

02:35:29.160 benefit of myself and self-preservation i am willing in terms of the calculus of you know the comparison

02:35:37.800 the comparison of all factors uh the totality of all the circumstances survive but like have shame

02:35:44.920 i will i would rather survive and have shame than die and go out doing the honorable thing if that

02:35:55.240 makes sense no i get your position we're just we're kind of repeating it now yeah yeah and even like

02:36:00.120 i would also frame it to my kids like i there could be social pressure impacting my kids like

02:36:07.480 whoa your dad wasn't willing to die i'd be like eh you know you might think that but also i'm still

02:36:13.880 here now and your guys's life would be way more up if i still wasn't alive so to me it's like to the

02:36:20.040 benefit of the family to to the benefit of myself and that supersedes the external social pressure

02:36:28.520 social shame social guilt and uh yeah and i i reject the disposability of males so it's just i think

02:36:39.080 it's a pretty coherent world view i agree with you males should not be i don't males should not be

02:36:45.240 disposable but i mean within your world view aren't they no we're taking a specific hypothetical whether

02:36:53.000 it's brigadier nicholson or the titanic and saying if you were in this horrific situation what is the

02:36:58.360 the least bad course of action that doesn't mean i think men are disposable like i can't just go i

02:37:04.440 don't well just to be clear i don't think they're disposable but i think society thinks men are

02:37:07.960 disposable under both a well yeah then we go back to the russian example of like okay if we are invaded

02:37:15.080 what do we do like you know because it's utility well so i i want to explore that a little bit when

02:37:21.480 it comes to duties and there's actually a chat that came in that will probably prompt this let me pull

02:37:26.760 up the chat though one sec it is uh beaten cheeks what duties do women bring to society or better yet 1.00

02:37:36.600 what do you bring to the table to get your so-called dominant man plenty of men in the usa women need to be 1.00

02:37:42.600 feminist at start not after knowing a man so going around the table starting with you uh what duties 1.00

02:37:47.960 do women bring to society good question like bring to society or bring into a relationship 1.00

02:37:54.920 well he yeah so what duties what duties do you bring like do you have any duties to men and then do you

02:38:03.880 have any duties to society and when i say men like to your future husband or whatever yeah i mean i think

02:38:09.080 it's hard to say society i don't know i guess for me for my man i guess my duty is to be loyal and

02:38:17.400 supportive emotionally there a motherly figure am i going the wrong direction with this i thought you

02:38:22.760 shook your head no oh well when you say loyal i suppose this would be like a equal duty so yeah i guess

02:38:31.480 to be a motherly figure figure be supportive be like emotionally there i don't know it's hard to say

02:38:37.320 because i think a lot of things go both ways but okay yeah sure kind of hard answer what about you

02:38:43.640 scooting to the table if you can so for society of relationships both i think for society being

02:38:49.800 teachers being caretakers that's important role for a woman to take in a relationship i think like 1.00

02:38:55.720 being a cheerleader and also being a place like a safe haven for a man he can be out in the world being

02:39:00.920 masculine and tough but he can be funeral with me and uh yeah be a place of trust okay

02:39:11.560 yeah i was gonna say probably the nurturing side to both society and um to your relationship because

02:39:20.680 it's more so of like how you nurture your relationships whether they're friendships your

02:39:25.240 family members and your uh or your partner you're going to want to be there for them to like kind of

02:39:30.680 care for them and be in that femininity side and then um yeah like as she said supporting as well 1.00

02:39:38.920 okay i agree i think a female's position should be a caretaker in society and in the family i mean 1.00

02:39:45.400 sure most women are teachers because that's their caretakers that's what our role in society should be 1.00

02:39:50.200 okay what about you i think the role is to be a mother and to raise children to be valuable members

02:39:55.400 of society and to also take care of your community like of course there are women who can't be mothers 1.00

02:40:01.560 just because of like health issues and stuff like that you can still take care of your community and

02:40:06.520 serve your husband um in by anticipating what his needs are and what his wants are so that he doesn't

02:40:13.400 even have to tell you what he needs you already know it

02:40:16.040 yeah i agree with uh all of these ladies over here on the panel i will add one thing i think 0.59

02:40:22.120 it's also a duty of women um to not sell themselves short or give too much of themselves to just

02:40:31.080 uh anyone and i i mean that you know in terms of like the the world of like prostitution or only

02:40:36.120 fans or anything like that i think that's very important we owe that to society to set a better example

02:40:40.760 um for to be more respected to be more respected um to not only men but to other women and also

02:40:49.880 uh children as well i think that's very important to um uphold those kinds of qualities in order to

02:40:56.920 exude the more feminine qualities of being a wife and being loyal and being you know just just not

02:41:02.840 being promiscuous i think that's important felicity be a good partner be a good person have children

02:41:09.720 children so do women uh so women have a duty to have children i think we're all here to reproduce 0.98

02:41:20.040 okay so i just really quick i guess bringing it back to like duties so what's interesting to me

02:41:27.960 though when it comes to war and we were talking about this when it came to uh the draft right like

02:41:33.000 like a russia invades um so for the panelists here do you think if a country were to invade us

02:41:40.840 do you think that the men have a duty to like try to fight the enemy join the military become a soldier

02:41:51.960 anyone who's physically capable mostly men i personally would not do very well and

02:41:56.040 i don't want to back out of that i don't think women should be involved in combat i think it's 1.00

02:42:01.880 the woman's duty actually to um become like the the nurse the care to take on the caretaker role 1.00

02:42:08.280 for the men in war for the soldiers in war nurture them nurse them back to health whatever it is i

02:42:13.000 think women also have a role granted it's not as severe as the men have you know being uh faced with

02:42:18.200 imminent death every day but i think women also take on that role and i think it is the man's 0.65

02:42:22.760 responsibility i don't think women because women are biologically less capable than men i think

02:42:29.160 i just think women should stay out of it just stay out of combat i think a more important question 0.88

02:42:33.640 is to ask if the men are capable of being protectors nowadays especially in the usa i think

02:42:41.560 agreed yeah with their diet and lifestyle and and yeah i mean someone has to do it and i don't think

02:42:50.760 the women are going to be in general more capable so i think the men do have a duty they do i agree

02:42:56.840 completely with you but are they capable of of being the strong men that we need for them to protect

02:43:03.960 us they should be but a lot of them aren't as like how progressive things would become if you like

02:43:09.720 and especially like you said with the first ones killed at the war but why the u.s why did you say the

02:43:14.280 u.s um because i what i've learned uh health-wise it's not like the best place to uh be i think

02:43:24.120 affects the men especially here like you when you uh need to get into military in the military you have

02:43:31.080 probably a set of tests you need to do and i'm sure most of the men nowadays are not capable to pass these

02:43:39.240 tests um it's been 10 days in amsterdam those guys are huge six foot over yeah well how about this

02:43:49.640 though because we were talking about like if if russia invades um let's say you guys knew that russia

02:43:55.640 was invading and if we didn't draft men so what i mean by that is by drafting men you're forcing them

02:44:01.720 the state the government forces them to fight like let's say as a guy you're like i don't want to fight

02:44:07.560 the government's like nope send you off to training they will physically force you they'll they'll like 0.56

02:44:13.640 you try to not go the the military police will come to your you gotta put it center if you're

02:44:18.840 stepping away um the military police will come to your house they'll abduct you we've seen this in

02:44:25.640 ukraine they literally abduct men does it make the difference between being overrun or not though

02:44:30.360 those yeah that's so that's what i was going to go to is um if you force men against their will to

02:44:38.840 go and fight uh that is the determining factor in preventing uh say russia from invading and let's

02:44:47.240 say this is like a really nasty version of russia in some like alternate universe where they're going 0.97

02:44:51.960 to kill all the men anyways and then they're going to like take all the women as war brides and basically 1.00

02:44:56.920 essay them um this is obviously something that has actually happened historically in various wars 0.89

02:45:04.760 so would you guys be advocates for forcing men under these circumstances to fight

02:45:14.120 someone has to do it there's no you have to choose it's either going to be the men or who else is it

02:45:20.040 going to be so right but so we now have established that men have a duty to do this right

02:45:27.160 what duties can the state compel women to do to help in there's other positions right in um 1.00

02:45:37.240 in the war you said you were actually i think maybe you two were the only i think you're the

02:45:41.320 only one who answered this correctly uh women's duty is to have children are they though no but 1.00

02:45:48.200 i think many of you would object to the following duty and by the way just to be clear i'm not

02:45:53.880 advocating for this but uh play with me here with the example would you be okay with the following

02:46:00.600 example russia is going to invade but in 20 years i don't know we have a we can see 20 years into the

02:46:05.800 future we don't have the requisite population level uh as it currently stands to combat russia but if we

02:46:15.160 draft women into half into and they can select their partner but the women uh are drafted to give birth 1.00

02:46:24.360 yes and that's the only way to prevent russia we can we know if the women uh each women has two 0.99

02:46:31.880 children if that's the only way and if and if we don't like basically essentially force women to give 1.00

02:46:38.920 birth then russia is going to invade and kill all the men and like you know do bad things to women 0.97

02:46:45.880 would you be in favor of forcing women taking away their free will forcing them to have children 0.98

02:46:52.440 yes i would agree what about you that's hard to say i don't know i for me i mean yeah i do believe

02:47:00.200 that women should have children do i believe all women should have children probably not 1.00

02:47:04.600 i think people who are capable mothers should be like there's a lot of times where people have

02:47:10.200 children and they are drug addicts living on the street and now the child has to grow up in that

02:47:15.640 environment so it's i mean your average woman who is financially responsible or whatever it's like a 0.94

02:47:22.040 it's like a caring mother i mean i think they should if i mean it's getting a little bit away from the

02:47:27.320 question because like for example with the other example i provided uh it's it's possible that you're

02:47:34.680 gonna draft men who are like gonna be incompetent soldiers yeah uh when you draft them um so in this

02:47:41.560 case yeah it's possible that you would be end up drafting like incompetent mothers i guess but 1.00

02:47:46.680 invariably we still need them to birth enough uh future soldiers so under these circumstances

02:47:53.560 would you be in favor of forcing women to give birth to children yeah i guess yes 1.00

02:48:00.200 i guess i have to word it that way when you order like that i mean yes okay yeah i mean yeah and the

02:48:05.880 reason i say this is so we send men off to training when they get drafted and let's say we go to war and

02:48:10.600 they have to go to training well obviously let's say we have the bad mothers who can't take care of 1.00

02:48:14.440 their children why would you not make sure that you have people let's say people who can't even have 1.00

02:48:18.920 kids why would you not have them go ahead and take care of those children and make them into 0.99

02:48:22.360 productive members of society to be able to fight yeah there could be an entire system built around

02:48:26.600 this where there's like uh there's like courses that are taught and they're the women are prepared 1.00

02:48:32.600 to like raise the most badass soldiers warrior children and you know uh guidelines on like nutrition

02:48:40.120 and like you know getting them in good physical shape uh you know this sort of thing so alina your

02:48:45.160 thoughts should we be able to draft women to yeah i mean you said it's the only thing stopping

02:48:51.320 the invasion yeah so yes most of those women are going to want to have children anyway so it's 0.98

02:48:56.680 like if the men's free will is being taken away in the way that they have to get drafted to combat

02:49:02.360 then the women's corresponding responsibility would be their free will being taken away in that way 1.00

02:49:10.120 and they get to choose their partners too so it's like most of them are going to do that anyway

02:49:14.280 they're going to choose their partner and they're going to have children with that men so i think

02:49:18.200 it's fine okay oh yeah i agree i mean i think especially with the choice of uh partner with the

02:49:26.120 choice of partner i think that's um yeah i think it's okay i mean especially since the men can't choose

02:49:31.240 you know who's going to uh take them off the you know okay unalive them so sure all right did you

02:49:39.240 have something on this warren or no it was interesting because when you introduce the

02:49:44.200 second condition that that is required in order for victory or survival yeah importantly what often

02:49:52.680 happens i think the first way it was framed this is how i usually hear this thought experiment framed

02:49:57.080 it's just okay well if men are going to be required to fight should women be required to reproduce 0.99

02:50:01.640 because reproducing is equally important but when you make it a victory condition that's when you

02:50:06.520 suddenly saw people change their minds right they were more on the fence because then it's logically

02:50:11.960 normally i would say you want the minimum number of negatives the only it it's survival in that

02:50:17.960 scenario all we need is this negative requiring men but okay requiring women to reproduce that's an 0.98

02:50:23.960 additional negative that has no correlation to survival but when you make it conditional now it's

02:50:29.240 right doesn't make sense yeah yeah no that makes sense um we're going to do some more chats we have

02:50:34.680 davon jackson i generally disagree with brian on this but it is a raw deal for a man to sacrifice

02:50:41.240 his life to save a woman who will remarry and take some other dude's name anyway the guilt argument doesn't

02:50:47.960 work uh davon jackson thank you uh he disagrees with me raw it's a raw deal yeah it's a raw deal i don't 0.88

02:50:57.960 know she's gonna be back on tinder in like fucking three weeks man i'm dead she said she's on tinder at 0.99

02:51:04.360 the funeral it's like shit didn't you say with a new woman to the funeral oh i was being facetious but 0.99

02:51:11.560 um i don't know when i said yeah if she sacrifices her life for mine uh yeah i was saying back on tinder 0.99

02:51:21.080 i don't use dating apps but as a joke okay we have d's nates is it a woman's duty to provide her 1.00

02:51:28.440 husband sex even if they're arguing if no i work a nine-to-five job to support her with my body 1.00

02:51:34.520 so when we are arguing can i stop supporting her financially

02:51:41.800 that's an interesting one d's nates um

02:51:44.040 that's an interesting anybody gonna bite on that sure yeah i think it's kind of weird yeah i feel

02:51:54.360 like that's bordering on the the toxicity and consensual like the line of being of it being

02:51:59.320 consensual yeah i think it's toxic to stop doing something that you've been doing consistently just

02:52:05.880 because you're arguing like if you're arguing you should figure it out not say i'm going to stop doing

02:52:10.680 this for you that i've been doing all this time yeah but i think he's asking if he's still entitled

02:52:15.480 to having sex with her if they're arguing entitled i don't think anyone's entitled to anything

02:52:21.880 i wonder if uh but like

02:52:28.760 should should there be a scenario where like like what if the the i don't know where i'm going with this

02:52:38.600 like you would all agree though that if a woman stopped having sex with her husband 0.86

02:52:44.360 like that totally is green light for him to end the relationship i think so like how long are we

02:52:51.720 talking for because if it's like you guys are in an argument eventually you're going to work through

02:52:54.680 that argument but if it's like an infinite thing and she's just cutting it off completely well then

02:52:59.000 yeah i don't think that's fair assuming there's like no reason like yeah no health reason or

02:53:05.080 whatever sure yeah i mean i think like this could apply on both ends like maybe the guy's sick or

02:53:11.480 she's sick and neither person wants to have sex i think that's totally fine and i think either 0.99

02:53:17.960 partner should respect the other partner in that situation but it's like uh i don't think it would be

02:53:25.640 a surprise like if a wife stopped having sex with her husband that he would either divorce her or it 0.75

02:53:31.560 could just like introduce i mean he should probably dump her but it would just introduce infidelity

02:53:36.520 he might just start cheating on her like would you blame somebody if they're just like i'm just

02:53:41.080 not having sex with you anymore it depends i mean you should break up but like or i don't know

02:53:48.040 it depends how much you love that person because if you really love them so much you will figure

02:53:52.040 out the issue instead of getting a whole divorce like that's a lot you know what i mean like a

02:53:56.760 divorce is very a big burden on someone's life i agree with that just because you haven't had sex

02:54:02.600 you should do everything that you can to figure out that issue first instead of doing a breakup or

02:54:10.040 a divorce we have a super chat here from lucas here's a twist to the hypothetical what if the husband

02:54:15.480 makes seven figures per year wife is a stay-at-home mom with no job skills they have four kids who 0.99

02:54:22.760 takes the bullet what would be in the best interest of the kids by the way hypothetical does not denote

02:54:28.120 my position uh if the husband makes seven figures per year they have four kids what would be what 0.99

02:54:36.120 okay what would be in the best interest of the kids that's basically like what you said earlier you

02:54:40.120 said if if you were to you know let your wife die and you you go and um you survive you know your kids

02:54:49.000 would know but you're the you're the main provider that's the same point that you made earlier is it

02:54:53.160 not yeah sort of i mean i think my thought on thoughts on this he says if you have four kids

02:54:58.920 so what if the kids are all between the ages of like seven and 12 so they're not like they don't

02:55:05.480 need to be like breastfed or anything um and like the mom's a stay-at-home mom and the guy's making 1.00

02:55:12.520 seven figures per year i think there's actually a pretty compelling argument in this case like

02:55:16.920 it's gonna be better for the kids for the uh for the husband to survive but the wife is a stay-at-home 1.00

02:55:25.960 mom so the money the money that the husband makes would go to her and she is already staying with the 1.00

02:55:31.240 kids more than he is so you could argue that she would still have the resources that he had and she 0.99

02:55:38.120 would be providing that motherly role for them and they would have the honorable story of like their 0.74

02:55:43.800 father it's true they would have uh i see what you're saying you're saying that because he's

02:55:51.800 such a high earner the the collective uh she's accrued enough money from his pre-existing income

02:56:00.680 that's come in to survive yeah but what's she gonna do when that money runs out right exactly because 1.00

02:56:05.720 eventually it's gonna run out she could also work if if but she has no job skills that's in the 1.00

02:56:09.960 scenario she can gain working skills everyone can but is she gonna be able to support her

02:56:14.760 children just with no job skills right off the bat i mean entry-level positions aren't gonna

02:56:19.480 figure it out you would be like oh my husband is dead i have to build up some work skills in the

02:56:23.960 meantime i have the money that he provided but he's gonna watch your kids figures you're gonna

02:56:28.280 watch your kids you're gonna have to find yeah figure it out like every other single mom has 1.00

02:56:32.680 well that you have to work but then you'll be able to take care of your kids what if the comparison

02:56:36.520 is this for a little while so it's it's his scenario but we know that the person is within six months

02:56:43.880 is going to like find a new person and then within another six months will remarry to somebody else

02:56:50.040 so the single mom with four kids who was or is a stay-at-home mom with no job skills 1.00

02:56:58.040 her subsequent partner is probably less likely to be capable of replacing the like seven figures a

02:57:08.200 year is a ton of money whereas the single father with four kids who's a seven figure per year owner

02:57:14.840 or per year earner excuse me i misspoke i think he's gonna have a way easier job

02:57:20.840 finding like finding a commensurate like replacement well actually well actually felicity okay

02:57:31.960 based on how much they've earned the state will pay the parent that is still living a certain

02:57:37.720 amount of money based on how much the one that died made that's only if you have a life insurance

02:57:43.080 policy i mean you get money if you have a life insurance policy but the government doesn't provide

02:57:46.920 you any funds funding i know that i mean there there is like life insurance you can get social

02:57:52.200 security like you can you can pull from social security for your significant other but eventually

02:57:57.480 that's going to run out too it's not a never-ending supply of money anyways thank you lucas appreciate

02:58:02.920 it good to see you in the chat guys read as 100 tts is 200 if you want to weigh in on the conversation

02:58:08.680 also uh venmo cash app whatever pod let me see if i can uh trevor thank you for the 10 on cash app

02:58:14.600 jason uh bar uh thank you for the five on cash app also appreciate it we also have twitch guys go to

02:58:22.280 twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one also discord discord.gg

02:58:27.640 excuse me discord.gg slash whatever uh pull up the twitch really quick guys i think it's bugged boys i

02:58:33.720 think it's bugged guys by the way it's warren's birthday so somebody buy us a uh we'll do instead of

02:58:41.880 a champagne pop if you want to do like a cake pop i i don't know if can i get a cake at this hour i

02:58:46.760 don't know um jay brown thank you for the tier one guys it's been it's been two hours since we've

02:58:51.640 had a prime sub i think it's bugged boys can somebody test out a prime sub in the chat thank

02:58:56.200 you also guys if you want to get oh there it is humane humane thank you for the prime sub guys also

02:59:01.960 if you want to get some merch big lady matter shop to whatever dot com speaking of which not 1.00

02:59:06.920 not speaking of which uh cake here thank you for the gifted five subs appreciate it stifler ask

02:59:12.120 everyone oh wait hold on let me do this follow up lucas no alina we all know money runs out plus

02:59:18.760 the expenses are typically commensurate with the income level she has no job skills or earning 0.96

02:59:23.880 potential what happens then from a purely pragmatic perspective the wife is more disposable she can gain 0.78

02:59:30.920 job skills just like everyone else in this world just like every single mother has in the history of 1.00

02:59:35.400 this world she can spend that time while her money hasn't run out yet to gain the work skills 0.99

02:59:41.160 then her money starts to run out she can start to work it's going to be a struggle it's not going to

02:59:45.400 be a luxurious lifestyle with your husband taking care of you because he's dead so you're four kids

02:59:50.280 though by the way four kids yeah so but but you're saying okay she can gain the job skills or whatever 1.00

02:59:56.120 but the okay of the entire population what percentage of that population is going to go on and make seven

03:00:03.560 figures a year she she's not going to make seven figures right but that's not the man was yeah

03:00:09.320 she's not going to have the same equal standard of living that she did before and but she's going 0.99

03:00:13.960 to have to five bedroom house she's going to have to prioritize her kids and put her kids ahead of 1.00

03:00:18.920 herself let go of certain luxuries and sharing bedrooms now fucking kids sharing they're going to 1.00

03:00:24.920 have to share the bedroom on the floor sleep on the couch do whatever you need but you're going to make 0.96

03:00:29.320 it work but do you want to do that or the man could survive and he's still making the money and

03:00:35.480 he can still provide the household but he hasn't spent all that time with the children he has to

03:00:40.360 work to keep the money coming in he's going to have to either find some step all right he's a 0.96

03:00:45.080 fucking crypto guy how about that that's great he got a crypto pump and actually wait no that's not 0.76

03:00:51.240 fair to lucas's uh his thing anyways we'll move it on though we have uh stifler ask everyone 0.98

03:00:57.000 to rate their own looks on the scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead i can't pick seven i

03:01:05.400 was going to pick seven you can't pick seven can i pick half numbers seven point five no just do

03:01:11.400 full do full numbers i guess eight then eight okay what about you six six okay go for an eight eight

03:01:19.240 okay a four or five elena six point nine uh-huh i'd say a four four warren what about you into the

03:01:29.400 mic if you can five five five all right i give myself a five uh also all right wow everyone's

03:01:38.440 pretty reasonable here look at that love it this is a really based panel like one of the most i know

03:01:42.840 i was a little i'm a little disappointed yes well i mean i kind of got them upset with the whole uh

03:01:49.000 the wife should die thing that was worth that was the best birthday present yeah yeah yeah yeah i

03:01:55.400 mean it was good it was a good combo by the way no hard feelings we disagree no hard feelings uh 0.94

03:02:03.080 we do need to get warren the cake though we need to get you tanked before the end of the show

03:02:08.040 it's your birthday you should have told me i wouldn't have booked you for your birthday oh

03:02:12.280 you don't drink i drink yeah i said just get this guy some seltzers some white claw and uh some some

03:02:21.240 i don't know crystal crystal we need a crystal guys anybody any fans we got a bottle of

03:02:26.600 crystal champagne i you know what it's his birthday it's any any warren smith enjoyers in the chat

03:02:35.400 have you ever had crystal no guys warren smith he's 38 guys never had crystal one ethereum it's

03:02:43.960 one ethereum to pop a ball of crystal so uh get to it boys get to it any warren smith enjoyers okay

03:02:52.360 uh where were we we're gonna get back to the notes no but oh uh do you think you'll be better looking

03:02:56.840 in 10 years time i would hope so but probably not have you just tilt your microphone down a little

03:03:03.080 bit down you're good uh from the back like push it up a little bit good yeah down uh so you're 28

03:03:08.920 better looking in 10 years time at 38 most likely not okay and then are you better looking now than

03:03:13.880 you when you were 18 yes okay you're 32 better looking in 10 years time at 42 no okay uh you're

03:03:22.120 32 were you better looking at 22 10 years ago i think my style is better but i don't know if i

03:03:28.280 looked looked i looked more useful back then okay you're 26 will you be better looking in 10 years

03:03:33.080 time at 36 i believe so uh 20 years time 46 if i'm sticking with my gym routine i would say so you

03:03:43.160 age nicely 30 30 years time 56 better looking i don't think so okay you're 32 better looking in 10

03:03:51.560 years time at 42 absolutely not and then you're 32 were you better looking at 22 yes okay uh you're 20 better

03:03:57.720 looking in 10 years time at 30 i don't think so okay 19 better looking in 10 years time 29 no

03:04:03.240 felicity um 10 years 10 years time 29 i don't know i don't know anymore i used to say yes but i'm gonna

03:04:10.040 go no okay gonna go no all right um we do a segment called i don't know man you guys are too nice i'm

03:04:17.800 gonna have to just intentionally argue with you guys over something um we do a segment where we put all of

03:04:23.960 you through ai and we age all of you oh my god i'm scared so we're gonna do that segment super quick uh

03:04:30.760 mary if you have that going then we have some ray x guys so we'll do we'll blast through that

03:04:35.000 okay all right go for it oh gorgeous make it bigger that's hot bigger 0.94

03:04:45.480 you're are all of them small no it's okay all right uh botox up for that next

03:04:52.520 oh gosh aging is a what how do you call like a grandma in in dutch oma oh i like that yeah next

03:05:10.840 i didn't even see it here it is oh my god

03:05:13.240 because you said 46 that one's 46 in the middle is 46 you don't look bad no i mean you don't look

03:05:23.880 that's bad i hate to say you don't look better but like i don't really look bad yeah sure i mean

03:05:28.280 to be fair it's not you're looking still good you're still looking nice nicely still looking good for

03:05:34.440 the most part all right next scared also a oh my gosh i look i actually look like my grandma kind of

03:05:40.360 that's weird like the lunch lady oh thanks all right oh alina's gonna like this one all right

03:05:48.360 next yikes it's gonna keep them i think the middle one is the middle one isn't bad at all you kind of

03:05:56.200 like this might sound weird i'm the first one is kind of scary too oh thanks like that's some

03:06:06.520 she almost looks like a doll yeah she looks like like one of them in the back it's the first one

03:06:11.320 i wouldn't go that far but like a china like a china doll almost yeah uh okay let's do 0.58

03:06:18.280 whoops next nightmare fuel oh my gosh took some milf wait what okay all right i kind of look like

03:06:28.040 my my mom and my grandmother that's so interesting it's weird all right uh oh we got felicity she loves 0.57

03:06:33.160 this one next oh oh they keep doing you dirty felicity keep doing you dirty what are you okay 0.65

03:06:42.760 you have to keep it up yes all right we got warren coming up let's see warren what the

03:06:50.840 kind of scary uh it looks like the trump mug shot in the last one the trump mug shot oh because he's

03:06:57.480 like scowling at the camera uh all right we'll do me oh okay the eyebrows they took like a 10 plus

03:07:10.440 year this is a 10 plus year old photo oh my god that's an old okay uh is there another one or 0.99

03:07:17.320 oh and then the next segment is we have gender swap wait what the fuck i don't know why that 1.00

03:07:23.480 blah blah blah we uh gender swapped all y'all so uh the question is would you date the male version 0.98

03:07:31.720 of you no and in warren's case a female what do you date the female version of you okay

03:07:38.280 ready oh oh well i also typically don't jawline yeah i typically tend to not date white men anyways so

03:07:46.680 it's fine i would have probably said you what's your uh go-to it tends to be either middle eastern

03:07:53.880 or hispanics my track record eastern or yeah any uh do you date black men or i've like dated before

03:08:03.960 but i haven't been in a relationship so i mean i'd be open to i feel like i'd probably more likely

03:08:09.720 be with a black man than a white man don't ask me why it's just i my attractions i'm just white 0.53

03:08:14.280 enough for the both of us do you not you don't like white guys i just tend to not like my track

03:08:19.080 record i just haven't like i don't know yeah i feel mannerism no i just tend to be more attracted to

03:08:26.280 like other cultures i don't know i would love for my kids to be able to speak another language i don't

03:08:30.920 know i just think i mean that's not just it but i people have types that just happen yeah i wouldn't

03:08:36.200 be against it fully like of course if i meet the love of my life and he's white it's not going to be

03:08:40.040 like oh my god no because you're white it just tends to be that i fall their ways native americans 0.71

03:08:47.080 sure chumash i guess apache why not apache are they hot um okay uh next 0.94

03:08:58.760 wow thank you would you date the male version of you you're actually not sure yeah yeah yes i would

03:09:11.960 i would date you more than i would meet you it's closer to my type right there

03:09:18.760 no i wouldn't you wouldn't no if you i know some of y'all in relationships so just if you were single

03:09:23.800 yeah all right all right next oh rico suave

03:09:34.200 that's not bad the beard yeah like no facial hair is like the middle one's scary but the last one i

03:09:42.680 would go for oh yeah the last one i would go for all right next oh wow okay yeah i would into the

03:09:51.800 mic yeah yeah yeah just can i see it again yeah it's like the last one the middle one's not even

03:09:56.600 that bad but like the last one the facial hair yeah i feel like they we love i feel like i got

03:10:00.840 some favors there if i'm being honest yeah well no that's not what i meant but i i mean whoever's

03:10:07.880 did these like we used to do it where just like i think we started masculinizing the faces a bit

03:10:13.400 because we used to just literally like it would change the hair and uh maybe put a beard but your

03:10:20.520 facial structure stayed the same but it it masculinizes the face a bit more like the

03:10:25.960 for example the nose is a bit bigger and eyebrows get a little bushier or whatever anyway uh next

03:10:34.360 oh wow would

03:10:36.600 he looks young like and kind of asian

03:10:45.560 a little bit wasian i don't know would you date him middle one looks uh like very young the one on

03:10:51.800 the right perhaps i mean if he has riz you know what i'm saying we yeah we know what you're saying uh

03:10:59.480 next oh god oh would you uh date not if i was the last person on earth you wouldn't

03:11:07.240 date he's not he's not bad looking no he's not you wouldn't date him it's scary because i look like

03:11:12.840 my brother somehow then i look a little bit like my brother there so oh you also only date middle

03:11:19.800 eastern men and mexicans okay next oof felicity they did you so dirty why did they give you that 1.00

03:11:32.200 hair yeah this is like in sync from really they gave her like a jumpsuit too yeah whoever does this 0.96

03:11:41.080 bring up the one where i'm wearing the pink shirt i like that she saved it on her phone it's her

03:11:46.120 wallpaper all right warren smith oh i feel like i'd be your eyes are so big highly annoying

03:12:00.920 uh you would you would be highly annoying my personality probably you look like one of these 0.99

03:12:06.040 uwu waifu i don't know wait what the fuck where is it damn i can't find it oh like wait oh man it 0.99

03:12:14.280 takes two two two wait can i find it hold on and oh here we go it will kind of like that i don't 0.90

03:12:26.840 know yeah she cosplays are you part asian no oh okay irish because they made you kind of asian yeah

03:12:37.800 i don't know uh all right last one here um oh my god

03:12:47.320 uh yeah sure i would date myself as a woman

03:12:53.560 if she was a biological woman you know who that that looks like the discord knows who that looks 1.00

03:12:59.160 like and it bothers the shit out of me the girl from the crazy girlfriend meme 0.85

03:13:03.800 oh well no it's not her but yeah um it is a girl we've had on the show before though but okay cool

03:13:11.880 that was an interesting are there more or is that it x out of those we're gonna we got some reacts

03:13:16.840 guys recently on tinder it's taking the internet by storm tinder has introduced a height filter

03:13:27.160 on their app so if you're a woman and i think if you pay for like a premium 1.00

03:13:32.840 feature or something you can sort through height oh is there one for weight for men like if that's

03:13:41.560 going to be that kind of a standard no pull it up like height preferences yeah the height filter thing

03:13:48.040 so this is it um so you can you know put your age range and then the it says height new feature

03:13:54.120 whatever you can do any height i assume you can you know whatever set it to whatever you prefer

03:13:59.720 and there was an outrage on the internet how dare women have preferences 1.00

03:14:07.480 i mean look it's to be fair sometimes y'all crazy with that shit like oh 0.99

03:14:11.560 only date over six foot but would you guys think it's fair should should we have a weight setting next 1.00

03:14:18.760 i feel like it's the same thing that's kind of why i made that comment like yeah yeah right i i don't

03:14:24.760 i think that's silly personally would you guys be fine with a weight setting though on the day i

03:14:33.080 don't really think either one of them is fair i mean yeah we all have preferences but why are we

03:14:36.520 going to put it on a dating app you can kind of judge it just from looking at what you can control

03:14:41.160 yeah i do think this just makes dating way more troublesome

03:14:44.120 you can control your weight just get skinnier i also think it would be kind of you could put it

03:14:48.760 on on the day you should put it yeah i mean it'd be obvious about your pictures right

03:14:54.040 i think what tinder i think actually as a woman you know maybe what do you guys think about this

03:15:00.200 in order for you to even have a have a profile an account on tinder you need to uh they send you

03:15:08.760 a scale and you plug your phone into the scale and then in the app uh you it needs to every day

03:15:16.200 when you log on if you want to access the app you have to step on a scale so it can update because

03:15:21.400 people gonna be lying about their weight yeah yeah maybe yeah that's excessive i i i think the extent

03:15:28.760 i don't think there's anything wrong with having preferences for height or weight but like i think

03:15:33.000 you're gonna have a scale you gotta step on it every day to update that tinder like just get off

03:15:37.240 the dating app at that point like it's chronically online at that point go out and touch some grass

03:15:42.360 and go talk to me word word uh yeah mary go for it uh okay and then once she's once she's back we 0.97

03:15:51.800 have some other reacts to get to uh i'm gonna finish up the pre-show notes then we'll get into

03:15:56.280 the questionnaire stuff by the way guys warren smith over here is not adequately intoxicated

03:16:02.680 you know champagne pop we need it it's his birthday guys can we get him a what the heck

03:16:07.720 i is there hold on let me see if there's a hat do you want to oh

03:16:13.640 is oh no no that's the don't don't get up i can't do that to my my my homie over here

03:16:20.920 you should wear it brian i'm okay i wore it last time um let's see okay going to the show notes we have

03:16:28.360 kasumi oh this is all this will be interesting uh you wrote when you are a young girl uh i assume

03:16:34.680 you mean like when you're a one like a woman and i was a young girl did i wrote that when okay i'll

03:16:42.200 finish the sentence when you're a young girl avoid dating men who are a lot older than you okay so

03:16:46.680 you're saying like yeah i'm assuming you're talking about like adult aged age gap relationships

03:16:53.240 okay so like a 19 or 20 year old dating guys in his 30s right yeah okay uh why is that um

03:17:01.240 at first i was kind of okay with it i thought it would be fine but uh after experienced myself

03:17:08.280 first and also hearing stories of other women i do notice a um a consistent thing with men who are

03:17:16.760 older i think they sometimes date younger girls out of uh insecurity the the older men are insecure

03:17:25.320 yes how how so yes because at first i also didn't agree with this statement like uh it's just because

03:17:30.920 they can't handle uh um a woman their age and they have too much baggage and those kind of things um 0.99

03:17:39.160 i think as adults you can work through these things and i also think a grown man what do you have

03:17:46.120 in common with a very younger girl and it's always about the man trying to control her shape her in a

03:17:54.040 way that he wants her to be mold her in in a way that is easy for him to deal with and i don't think

03:18:00.840 it's um as common as we think uh big age gap relationships it's probably a handful of relationships

03:18:09.720 are like that and yeah i think there would be a dynamic that men would be more controlling over

03:18:16.280 the relationship and usually it doesn't end up well i think okay so there's a lot there you said

03:18:22.680 commonalities you said that the man would be more you think there's a tendency for older men to be more

03:18:29.320 controlling when they're dating younger women yes okay so how would that manifest itself like controlling

03:18:35.480 out uh making decisions for her uh telling her what she can't and cannot do and because she is

03:18:42.040 younger she yeah she probably feels like below him and more unexperienced in life and probably 0.96

03:18:50.040 yeah i think it won't will end up making her not happy she cannot she's not able to experience her

03:18:56.120 life the way she should have okay um when it comes to the control component uh don't you think

03:19:03.960 weren't you at making an advocation for men being leaders i do do certain like didn't you say men

03:19:11.320 should be more like masculine step up etc exactly so couldn't you have like a complete dynamic with a

03:19:16.760 woman exactly your age or even older where that level of i don't know if you would categorize it as

03:19:23.480 control i would categorize it as leadership that would exist in a same age relationship too um

03:19:30.680 um could you rephrase it in a different way could you well okay you're saying that uh

03:19:38.280 the man is more likely to be in correct me if i'm wrong you're saying the man's more likely to

03:19:43.720 be in control of a relationship where the woman is younger yes but isn't that exactly the type of 0.95

03:19:51.240 relationship dynamics that you're in favor of not completely okay so what components of that would

03:20:00.600 you object to um i think from my experience i have um i worked for about a year i stood in front of a

03:20:10.120 class and i had uh people from ages 19 until 25 um i think i experienced hundreds and hundreds of people in

03:20:19.720 one week and usually girls around yeah maybe 19 20 usually not all of them of course but they see

03:20:29.240 why do you refer to them as girls because they're young 19 year girls but it would not be incorrect

03:20:35.080 to refer to them as women right no they're women too okay they menstruated i guess i guess well but 0.97

03:20:41.240 you said 19 and 20 i mean these are adult they're legally adult women yes but i think somebody even

03:20:47.720 mentioned that at 25 your frontal lobe develops i don't know i 19 year old girl is different from

03:20:53.880 a 28 year old are you trying to say that a 19 year old 19 year old girl is more naive yes absolutely

03:21:01.080 wouldn't you argue argue though that if you're going to bring in the um brain development argument

03:21:05.960 wouldn't you say or argue that making these decisions um be getting into these relationships you

03:21:14.360 know sometimes it's all about responsibility like responsibility and wisdom doesn't equate to

03:21:19.160 brain development wouldn't you argue like you like you don't change from being uh

03:21:26.120 a simpleton to put like a simpleton at 24 to having your brain fully developed at 25 the next day you

03:21:30.520 know what i mean you don't that's true right it's true yeah the years uh of experience develop uh yeah

03:21:37.560 couldn't you argue that somebody at 19 could go through something

03:21:40.280 uh could have it's not common but you know have around the same awareness and response sense of

03:21:47.000 responsibility and um understanding of somebody at 25 with their absolutely i agree i don't think it's

03:21:52.760 just the majority of young girls that have this type of understanding of the world how relationships work

03:22:00.600 how men are and social dynamics i don't think the majority of girls around an 18 19 20 have a good 0.64

03:22:09.880 sense of that okay yeah so i have a question do you think that a majority of older men are just

03:22:14.840 controlling in general no i don't think so so then do you say that your statement is just a generalization

03:22:22.040 of all older men in a relationship with a younger female yeah in in general i would i would think so yes

03:22:29.080 okay so then you are saying that majority of older men are controlling in a relationship when an older

03:22:36.920 men is specifically looking for a 10 to 15 year old younger girl there is more behind it than just love 0.97

03:22:44.200 i think so in a sense the same way a lot of men talk about women when they're older they're like

03:22:51.800 um they have too much baggage uh they hit a certain age and they can't attract a a a good relationship

03:22:59.480 anymore the same is with men at some point when they're past 28 they're not in a relationship yet

03:23:04.520 they're probably failing at something in life i think and they look for a younger girl they're able

03:23:09.240 to control more and to have a type of relationship dynamic that he wouldn't be able to have with an

03:23:17.960 older woman do you think that's the case for all age gap relationships no okay so some what percentage 1.00

03:23:24.440 good question as well i don't know you don't know do you think it's do you think the majority of men

03:23:29.720 who want to date a younger woman uh the reason for them wanting to do that is because of this control

03:23:36.760 component that you're referencing it's a part of it but it's also a part because uh of course youth

03:23:43.080 is attracted attractive and also to older men still but i find it yeah odd if a really older man

03:23:51.800 let's say he's 40 and he's only looking to date 20 year olds there's something wrong with him i think

03:23:56.600 what oh go ahead leonardo dicaprio for example yeah there's something wrong with him too for doing

03:24:02.680 that yeah it shows him he cannot have a stable relationship with somebody i think you touched

03:24:08.200 on it where it's i think it's mostly aesthetic more so than it could be a component in some cases of

03:24:14.280 control but i think it's always going to be an aspect of that fabric of reality i keep referring to

03:24:20.760 that biologically because youth indicator reproduction i have this whole theory we don't need to get into

03:24:28.680 unless you're interested in about why we are attracted to beauty certain facial features and it's

03:24:35.320 seeing traits that oh if i reproduce with this person my offspring will have the highest likelihood

03:24:39.320 of having those traits thus carrying on my genetic code and that happens in a split second and this

03:24:44.920 isn't one way that is acted out yeah i agree with that one yes yes but i also think that um

03:24:54.440 just when you think of it a 40 year old man and a 20 year old woman what would they have in common

03:25:01.160 that much i could answer that relationship wise yeah i mean i have a couple of questions on that so um

03:25:08.040 first though just clarifying question um what is a way in which i would have a commonality with a woman 1.00

03:25:17.640 uh that's my age that on the basis of the commonality alone would be the

03:25:25.560 uh would be enough to push me over the edge to wanting to date her 0.95

03:25:29.480 i think certain values in the time that you guys values well i think hold on so when you're talking

03:25:40.280 about commonality are you talking about like shared like cultural like music or movies are you talking

03:25:47.240 about for example that's probably not the most important part but that's in the part of it okay

03:25:53.000 um i guess my confusion though aren't there people could is it logically possible that there's like

03:26:02.120 a 60 year old and a 20 year old who have more in common than does a 60 year old and another 60 year

03:26:11.960 old is it logically possible yeah i guess so there could be a possibility for that but that's not the

03:26:17.640 majority of the cases majority it could be the case but you would agree that there are people your own

03:26:23.560 age who you would be completely incompatible with as it relates to commonality uh could you say that

03:26:31.160 again sorry my english well so for example i'm 36 yeah there are 36 year old women that i have nothing in

03:26:36.760 common with yeah so but you you bring that up though as an argument for like why i shouldn't date them

03:26:42.760 right so or why men shouldn't date younger women because there's a lack of commonality i'm not sure

03:26:49.880 if like men or even women care that much about i agree with you on having shared values but i think

03:26:57.560 values are much more easy to come by than like having like shared cultural touchstones like oh you like

03:27:07.320 the same band you like the same movie also if a girl really likes you you can show her that 0.85

03:27:12.120 shit and she'll start to like it yeah i agree with that so but i mean uh i think for both men and women 0.98

03:27:20.280 i don't think commonality is really high on the totem pole in terms of what people value care about like 0.99

03:27:29.160 if you're a christian then yeah you'd want to date another christian but

03:27:33.960 and also what really i guess i guess i would ask what do men and women have in common really

03:27:42.120 what do women and men have like what do we have in common oh i think uh biologically speaking we 0.59

03:27:49.560 both want to reproduce uh have children i want to want someone we won't don't want to be alone like

03:27:56.040 probably that's everybody here wants love and don't wants to be alone so we have that all in common so

03:28:00.920 we're looking for a partner to close that gap for ourselves um so we have that at the base uh in common

03:28:09.480 and after that of course we want safety uh food we have these basic desires that are all the same

03:28:17.960 that are all in common so we understand each other on that level well let me ask you this what would

03:28:24.280 i have in common with a 35 year old that i can't have in common with a 25 year old um like experience 0.98

03:28:33.240 life experience well when you say life experience i just think more dicks 0.57

03:28:39.880 like she's more guys that's all i can look but what do you mean life experience like i'm like i 0.87

03:28:45.160 wanted to make a point because i was um i i did this job that i was a teacher and i met like hundreds of

03:28:51.960 20 year old girls and i'm standing in front of the class and majority not all of them but they're

03:28:58.760 sitting on their phones unmotivated uninterested when you have a conversation with them they're

03:29:03.080 staring at their screen and stuff they're so like there's not much uh there is not much

03:29:10.680 going on inside their heads so i'm sometimes thinking and i'm saying that's not all of a 19

03:29:17.320 year old woman but what does a 40 year old man with all this life experience he yeah what is he only

03:29:25.480 going for her looks probably yeah probably probably yeah and what what what is the relationship based

03:29:30.760 off of uh i mean what kind of relationship is that uh well i i would say that perhaps there's

03:29:37.480 some scenario where it's it's looks and he's just thinking like okay she's 20 or whatever and she has

03:29:45.480 the most childbearing years ahead of her that that might be it that might be all that he's thinking

03:29:50.840 about yeah i would think that's kind of empty like you need to share the rest of your life with her 0.99

03:29:57.400 basically well yeah you shouldn't like marry a like a twat like somebody's just a piece of 0.99

03:30:02.360 shit or annoying but like maybe that's part of the reason why he wants to be with her is to like 1.00

03:30:07.240 share his experiences with her and like help her grow as a person have you ever like thought of 0.94

03:30:11.640 that as an example as to why older men would be would want to be involved with younger females i would

03:30:16.760 see that more like being a father figure in a sense but you couldn't date someone who is older

03:30:23.160 and still learn those life experiences i'm sure there are uh ways that it could be like that but i

03:30:30.840 also see it in a way that that person knows everything a lot better than you and he will make the choices

03:30:36.680 for you and you cannot experience making errors in your life and create that own life experience for

03:30:42.280 yourself but wouldn't that be kind of a nice way to live you don't have to learn from all of your

03:30:46.840 mistakes and someone can kind of help you just get on the right path in life yeah that's the one is he

03:30:54.120 really teaching you the right path in life and second yeah maybe maybe yeah that's true but um i think

03:31:02.200 we're like taking away a lot of like responsibility from the woman uh from herself in that way but also

03:31:10.680 isn't a man's job to like guide their partner and be like someone to take care of their partner so

03:31:17.960 i guess i don't understand the issue of the age gap situation in that sense either man's supposed to

03:31:24.200 be a provider and a protector but so just because he's 20 years older than her how is that an issue

03:31:32.920 yeah i think for the reason i explained on beforehand um as a 20 year old woman

03:31:39.320 you have like many years in front of you and if somebody is telling you how to live your life from

03:31:45.560 that point i think that could be an issue for for you would you be okay with a 20 year old dating uh

03:31:51.480 like a really masculine and dominant 21 year old and he's like telling her how to live her life

03:31:59.080 because why would a man need to be telling someone to live okay so it's not related to age then you

03:32:04.280 just have an issue with like men being leaders in relationships usually it falls in the in the

03:32:09.000 in the gap of when the man is older he will feel more uh assertive in telling her what to do i dated

03:32:15.560 somebody a year younger than me and it was the most controlling relationship i've ever been in i feel

03:32:19.400 like it depends on the person too i feel like controlling people are going to be controlling

03:32:22.840 people no matter their age but i understand how you can see like because they're older it looks that way

03:32:28.520 but that's a good point i do have an interesting thought process there if the goal is to avoid

03:32:34.520 controlling situations situations in relationships uh what if i were to propose that there's a tendency

03:32:42.120 for the woman to be more controlling as she gets older ergo men should date younger women 1.00

03:32:49.720 so the older women don't control them 1.00

03:32:53.640 person yeah because there's also a tendency that women can be very controlling in relationships as 1.00

03:33:00.120 well i guess but is it okay no but that's true like it's but he's pointing out that age doesn't

03:33:05.880 really play a factor if you're going to be a controlling person you're going to be controlling

03:33:08.920 do you think the age gaps are gross like it's gross is it icky does give you the ick no okay you just

03:33:15.400 you're you're curious about the motivations it sounds like motivations indeed like why isn't that man

03:33:22.120 able to date someone around his age and usually it falls into fun maybe she is not attractive enough 0.58

03:33:28.600 for him or something but it's it's just yeah it just interests me a lot why isn't he able to find

03:33:34.680 somebody around his age if i'm dating a girl who's my exact same age and we have nothing in common

03:33:40.360 should i break up with her if if yeah if you don't love her and no i love she's really attractive 0.99

03:33:45.800 yeah and i love her but we you know what she likes rap music no you should and i don't with her 1.00

03:33:52.840 huh no you shouldn't break i should i shouldn't break up with her no okay that's not a deal breaker

03:33:57.320 for you you don't break up with her but like i also i don't do my nails and she does her nails 0.62

03:34:03.080 we have nothing in common but would you be would want to be with someone like that if we have nothing in

03:34:09.240 common but you like her and she's attractive it depends what are the things like i'm not a big

03:34:15.560 drinker i'd prefer to date if she was a partier and a drinker regardless of her age if she was 21 and 1.00

03:34:22.120 she drank a lot she was 30 40 and she drank a lot wouldn't want to date her either uh so i have a

03:34:29.800 question so let's reverse the roles so i'm in an i'm slightly it's five years difference i'm the older

03:34:34.840 person in the relationship and my significant other is the younger person in the relationship

03:34:41.480 so i guess my question is so i'm not a controlling person he's younger than me and he's more not in a

03:34:46.520 bad way but more controlling and takes the lead in our relationship but you're now putting control and

03:34:52.200 leadership in the same thing but i brought that to you earlier with the man being the older and the

03:34:57.880 female being the younger and being a leader and guiding them i mean my significant other like i said

03:35:02.760 i still learned things from him and he's younger than i am and hasn't had near as much life

03:35:07.240 experience i guess if you want to say as myself so why does it matter if it's a man or a woman who's

03:35:13.480 older because those are usually the stories that you will hear there's more a tendency of older men and

03:35:20.120 younger uh women that have these types of dynamics and i'm i'm dating a way younger guy like i'm the 1.00

03:35:27.560 older one oh how old is he 24 oh what the fuck hey uh you're you know what you are a predator and 1.00

03:35:38.280 you're controlling yeah and you are taking advantage of his undeveloped brain you're you're a 1.00

03:35:44.760 fucking sicko but i'm not just saying not just this girl 32 dating a 24 year old man oh no no no sorry 1.00

03:35:52.360 a boy you're dating a 24 year old boy yes that's disgusting really but that's not what i'm saying 1.00

03:36:00.680 what do you have in common with him i was just getting the same thing he's super hot oh whoa really

03:36:06.680 hot young guy and we have a lot of we we talk about i learn a lot from him he learns a lot from me as

03:36:12.520 well so again so why but i'm not saying it's every single relationship that is like that but i just

03:36:19.640 it's kind of a warning sign for younger girls because usually it's also the more damaged one 0.73

03:36:24.600 that go for older men in relationships there are women are damaged yeah the women are damaged there 1.00

03:36:30.120 are damaged women but i thought you were saying that there's a problem with the man to be uh pursuing 0.99

03:36:35.160 younger women as a generalized because i'm i'm just thinking about what is going on in his mind i'm just

03:36:42.600 thinking about what it what could be going on in his mind if he's actively pursuing girls that are way

03:36:47.720 younger than than him okay so what's actively going on in your mind dating someone who's 24

03:36:53.640 actively pursuing boy okay so maybe i'm not actively looking for younger boys today okay but

03:36:59.480 maybe some of these older men are actively looking for younger women today i'm sure there are situations

03:37:04.760 that just work and they're fine and that's okay but i i there is like why do men's motivations

03:37:11.800 so again we're back to like what percentage i guess so what percentage what percentage of like

03:37:16.360 age gap relationships i guess do you think are controlling and are like toxic from in my own

03:37:22.680 experience i've seen them in my own experience but what's the percentage i don't know the percentage

03:37:27.560 i just got studies on it or anything just a guesstimate though from your personal experience

03:37:31.320 less than one percent five percent ten percent would say like 30 or 20 okay yeah wait can i ask you a

03:37:41.240 question um so can you can you explain to me like what in turn what's the benefit to the man

03:37:50.680 to pick a 31 year old over a 21 year old like what's the actual benefit

03:37:54.680 well i think a more mature woman you have somebody that can uh like has more life experience needs 1.00

03:38:06.120 knows to deal with certain situations better than a 20 year old most men don't uh aren't attracted to a

03:38:12.120 more mature woman though that's the thing like um it matches up in age gap relationships like that 1.00

03:38:17.560 because a lot of time women are attracted to a guy who has more experience more life experience even like 0.96

03:38:24.440 maybe negative experiences it doesn't damage a man as much as it can damage a woman in terms of how

03:38:31.000 she conducts herself in the relationship so that's why it can match up like that like a woman may be 0.98

03:38:37.480 more attracted to an older guy a older guy is more attracted to a younger woman because she has more

03:38:43.080 reproductive years like brian said and like just because of attraction and as long as you have your

03:38:48.280 basic values lined up like um like no drinking for example or like if you want to have children in the

03:38:54.360 future that's the thing that should matter the most not like small things like he didn't listen

03:39:00.920 to the same type of music when he was younger as i am right now like it's it's not about that because

03:39:05.880 those things don't really matter in the relationship i agree with it can matter in like friendships

03:39:10.680 like you can sit with your with your friend in a car and listen to music but like with your husband

03:39:15.000 it doesn't i guess it doesn't matter as much because there's so many other things that matter so much

03:39:20.360 more there are much more things that matter more than the same music i agree with that like

03:39:24.920 commonalities i'm not just talking music like commonalities that have to do with age you can

03:39:29.880 have like basic things in common that matter more and you have an age gap relationship it doesn't

03:39:35.880 necessarily mean that one person is like trying to manipulate the other person no i'm also yeah i'm

03:39:41.480 like maybe it's my english or something but i agree completely with what you said here

03:39:45.880 maybe we'll understand better two people understanding well i mean i guess agree with

03:39:51.240 exactly everything you said i agree with that that's the baseline of it but i think in the group

03:39:58.040 of men that are looking for specifically only younger girls like i'm just trying to understand

03:40:04.600 what is going on in their mind and why they're not able to date somebody of their own age when we go to

03:40:10.280 certain uh other cultures i don't know if i can say this but in in muslim culture somebody they

03:40:15.880 sometimes date or they they marry like 25 year old men marry nine year old girls why well hold on

03:40:23.640 just to be clear we're talking about adult relationships right we're talking about adult

03:40:29.880 relationships okay right so this would mean they're adults both consent so you're talking about yeah that's

03:40:35.320 wrong you're talking about nine year olds yeah i don't think anybody at this table is defending

03:40:41.080 that but okay this we're talking about islam yep oh okay like it i'm not gonna get into the

03:40:50.840 that convo but yeah so i'm just yeah i maybe it's just me trying to understand what is going on there

03:40:57.560 and most people are just just yeah it's it's fine it should be fine i don't think it just we should

03:41:03.000 just look at it like that i was actually on that camp first years ago that but now i'm trying to

03:41:09.160 see like from a different perspective and yeah i just want to know what is going on in a man's head

03:41:17.160 when they choose to go for a much younger girl why they're not able to date somebody their own age

03:41:23.080 wait are you saying are you are you saying so is there a component here where it's like

03:41:28.280 like um the men can't get women their own age so they have to go after these like naive younger

03:41:39.160 women yeah i'm talking about a specific group of men that after a certain age that they're not in a

03:41:46.200 relationship and they're only hooking up and dating with younger girls after what age 28 30 0.96

03:41:52.520 so you're 32 i'm talking about currently dating a 24 year which by the way i have i don't actually

03:41:59.000 have any objections to but um i in general i want to really make this clear i in general don't have an

03:42:06.040 objection for a older man dating a younger girl but there's a certain group of men that i do think

03:42:12.040 they are in somewhat way insecure and they are looking specifically for younger girls to date

03:42:18.280 because that sense of control they they probably enjoy that and it's not it's there's a i think a

03:42:26.280 border between leadership and control okay well i mean i like i wouldn't disagree with you that like

03:42:33.720 perhaps for some men who date younger women they do so for like bad bad reasons or whatever you know

03:42:43.480 they they they're insecure or they are immature and like the older women can suss that out but i think 1.00

03:42:50.600 to paint to paint with a broad brush and just say men in general like i would say it's a very small

03:42:57.000 minority of men who find younger women attractive are like fall within that but i'm willing to grant

03:43:04.760 that yeah there there probably are some men who are insecure and are you know immature or whatever

03:43:11.640 but i don't know if it's worth exploring like a minority of men there you had something yeah i mean

03:43:20.680 if we use if we look at samples in hollywood we see that a lot because i think it they have to be

03:43:28.680 either have a lot of resources to be able to attract a 22 year old when you're 40 or above i can tell you

03:43:37.400 from a man's perspective why dicaprio is probably doing that he's like why would i be with a 40 year

03:43:43.320 old woman when i could be with this it's just aesthetically attraction i i get your i get your

03:43:50.280 point i think it's pretty simple it's pretty simple the reason why they do it my dad married someone 20

03:43:56.680 years younger than him so and i'm pretty sure that was i'm sure just an attraction thing

03:44:01.640 she had already had kids too it's the stereotype right it's not even about yeah leave with for 0.97

03:44:06.520 their secretary it's it's mad men we saw it i mean like my grandfather married my grandmother and there

03:44:14.200 was like an 18 year age gap he's 18 years he was 18 years older but i think that was an arranged

03:44:18.920 marriage so like that's just like a totally different kind of situation we have some chats

03:44:23.560 coming through we have one moment lucas hey lucas thank you man again with this feminist age gap 1.00

03:44:31.320 prattle age gaps are more morally neutral my parents were 15 years the reasons are simple men pursue

03:44:38.280 youth beauty because of fertility and good genes women pursue older continued or pursue older men

03:44:47.880 because of the accumulation of wealth stability ability to protect stop with the control bs talking

03:44:53.960 points stop trying to impose your preferences onto men your opinion is relevant to us uh thank you for that

03:45:00.040 lucas appreciate your message yeah i mean i think it just comes down to what people find attractive and

03:45:07.480 i think just biologically evolutionarily men are attracted to like women probably between the age of 0.96

03:45:13.720 like 20 25 that's probably like the peak uh in terms of what men will deem attractive it just comes 0.78

03:45:20.520 down to uh as warren said like an aesthetic and there is the biological basis of just like that's when women 1.00

03:45:26.280 are the most fertile uh so there's a biological basis for that desert joe says chair two keeps

03:45:33.320 insinuating men aren't able to date their own age this is completely false men generally have a

03:45:39.640 biological preference for women who are in their peak fertility age range not control i also on this

03:45:45.560 one i think desert joe is that i was thinking about this and i actually think that men say like men who are in

03:45:52.680 their 30s early mid 30s whatever who are able to date younger women like say between 20 to 24 or

03:46:00.840 something i think they actually those men in that age range would be are more able to date women in

03:46:09.240 their age range they just opt and choose not to because i think as a guy in your 30s and able to

03:46:16.600 in order to be able to attract a 20 year old i think you have to be pretty damn attractive in

03:46:23.560 whatever the ways that women find men attractive are uh and this would then that level of attractiveness

03:46:30.120 that the 20 year olds find attractive so too should it be the case that the 30 or 40 you know the older

03:46:35.800 women would also find those men attractive too so it's it's actually the case that i think like for

03:46:41.640 example a man who can't attract younger women i think that guy is less likely to be able to attract

03:46:50.600 women uh women of his own age also so i don't know this idea that like oh they can't get women their 1.00

03:46:59.800 own age so they have to go date like really hot attractive 20 year olds it doesn't really track for

03:47:05.400 me that it's like but 30 and 25 is not a big age gap right that's like a small age gap oh well i mean

03:47:12.600 i would i would just give you like 33 dating a 21 year old that's more that's pretty big age gap but

03:47:20.600 i mean i think in order to date to be to be able to get a 21 year old when you're in your 30s you have

03:47:27.640 to be pretty darn attractive in order to get her if and if you're in the 30s and you can't get

03:47:33.720 younger women and argue that you're like probably less attractive to women in your age group 1.00

03:47:44.120 so it's not it's not that they can't get the older women these older men it's not that they can't get

03:47:50.120 them they can get them but they're opting to go with the better option which happens to be younger

03:47:55.720 women and that just means actually when you say better it's just more attractive basically i mean 1.00

03:48:01.320 because others yeah the other things don't matter i won't sugarcoat it but sure yeah yeah more yes

03:48:06.520 more well yeah more beautiful yeah so better yeah that basically is what it comes not i'm not

03:48:13.240 making like a like a claim on their value as a human being no but like as a potential partner

03:48:21.240 yeah they're better it's more attractive so but if better equals more attractive than yes

03:48:25.880 uh we have grid one hey good to see you man hey uh grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars

03:48:35.160 and one cent thank you dude i was 34 and my wife 23 when we started dating married 20 years now i

03:48:42.600 specifically dated younger women you are delusional if you think men are not going to date the best option

03:48:48.600 available to them yeah i mean that's a good point grid one i mean look both men and women we're all going

03:48:53.960 to be we all want the best that we can get we all want to get the the most attractive person or

03:48:59.880 whatever the metrics are for what men and women find attractive we're all gonna like seek towards

03:49:05.320 getting the best that we can get in this case if you can date if you're if you're a guy in your 30s and

03:49:11.960 you can date a 21 year old i think a lot of men are going to gravitate towards that direction but i mean

03:49:17.160 that's not to say that there's men who like some men are gonna be find a great partner who's

03:49:23.800 his age could find a great partner who's even older than him it sounds like in your case you've been

03:49:28.840 with your current boyfriend for two years you're older than him but he i'm sure he's very happy in

03:49:35.720 the relationship and and uh all that but and uh you know it's maybe you could like raise an eyebrow if

03:49:44.360 they're like exclusively you know yeah even then i wouldn't i wouldn't say there's anything wrong

03:49:50.920 there like me me personally i would like i'll date a woman i've dated women older than me i've

03:49:56.760 dated women younger i've dated women my same age uh so it's not like i would only date a woman who's

03:50:03.560 younger but like if i'm being honest yeah i i typically find like 25 year old women more attractive 1.00

03:50:11.320 than 35 year old women you had something worn yeah i would be more likely to question the wisdom of

03:50:17.400 the 21 year old dating leonardo dicaprio it's like are you not picking up on pattern recognition

03:50:22.840 it's and then what's your motivation you know this isn't going to last or you're probably going for

03:50:29.080 the power power that comes with that the fame resources so they're probably the experience gold 0.82

03:50:34.920 digging or whatnot it's these darn gold diggers it depends on the spread like if you're talking like

03:50:39.560 40 and above with a 21 there's some i mean but i can understand the the biological that's always 0.98

03:50:48.200 going to be there from the male perspective the question is like what is the wisdom of the woman

03:50:51.640 who's willing to play that game as well somebody sent me a list here and i'm going to read them

03:50:56.760 so younger younger women more physically attractive more emotionally available more romantic 0.63

03:51:03.560 more energy and optimistic about the future more time to live life and travel the world

03:51:07.960 before starting a family more fertile less baggage and trauma more open to new ideas less stuck in

03:51:13.160 their ways stuck in a job city more agreeable easier to build a life with more grateful and easily

03:51:18.760 satisfied most good men want to satisfy their their woman nothing is more awful than the woman who's 1.00

03:51:23.880 never satisfied less likelihood of having children or a psycho ex younger parents who could be involved in

03:51:29.640 raising the children uh more on equal footing okay whatever that's something else okay somebody sent that

03:51:35.240 into me i don't know whatever i like that he said a good man like a good man okay but you have also

03:51:40.680 not such good men trying to take the lead in a relationship and ends nowhere okay we have ew here

03:51:47.800 thank you for the soup chat 44 year old man here never married no kids make six figures good career not

03:51:52.600 ugly i'd like to marry with the intention of having a family so i'm looking 25 to 32 at the latest for

03:51:58.360 biological reasons so i'm creepy for wanting the right intentions with a partner 0.87

03:52:06.440 like i think people are taking me super out of context here like if you're a good human being

03:52:11.880 you have good values you're a good caretaker if you're making the right decisions like why shouldn't

03:52:18.520 a young girl follow you but i'm saying there is a group of men that group i'm talking specifically

03:52:24.360 about that are just going after younger girls some of them don't have good intentions and maybe it's

03:52:31.560 just me making being a letting younger girls that they should be conscious about dating someone older

03:52:38.040 i have a question so is there a specific age range from the women that you're a younger woman

03:52:44.280 like 18 to 21 because i feel like that's mainly like the topic of everyone's kind of bringing because

03:52:50.520 it seems like you're 32 and your partner is 25 24 but you guys met each other where you're at now

03:52:59.800 where like they're a little more emotionally available and um like older to understand so my

03:53:07.640 question to you is are you is there a specific age range of women that you're talking to or is it just 0.99

03:53:13.960 in general of the age gap i think a specific uh age range like you said from 18 to 23 for 23 yeah i think

03:53:21.960 so but going back to what you just said though wouldn't your main objection here then be like

03:53:29.080 it's just toxic individuals because you would agree with me that like a 21 year old

03:53:35.960 man could have bad intentions wanting to date a 21 year old woman of course that can happen yes 1.00

03:53:44.520 right yeah so it seems like your objection is more towards like bad intentions so are you like

03:53:50.120 attaching bad intentions is this more likely to occur in age gap relationships is that your argument or

03:53:57.080 more likely good question indeed like i

03:53:59.240 it of course every time everything comes down to the person themselves but yeah maybe it's just from

03:54:05.320 my own experience seeing the older men doing that so i'm attaching it okay to them sure yeah uh

03:54:13.240 well i don't have much more on the age gap stuff we're gonna do reacts mary can you pull up the uh

03:54:19.240 the reacts so we have this woman on twitter who uh we tried getting her on the show but i don't know

03:54:24.280 she she actually considers herself a fem cell we're gonna read her tweets pull those up diane yes 0.99

03:54:32.360 we were trying to get her on the show but uh she writes this is kind of a bit vulgar but she would

03:54:37.880 rather be a temporary flashlight for a a man who's a nine or a ten so really good looking guy then a 0.92

03:54:44.840 permanent sex slave and housekeeper for a man who's a five i'm sure most women feel the same way 0.96

03:54:50.760 uh so we have some uh when we did the ratings you know there's some sixes and fives so you guys 1.00

03:54:59.320 uh anyone agree with that you know uh would you rather just be like a a sex toy for like a really hot 0.97

03:55:06.600 dude but that's it or date a guy on your level who's going to give you that more serious long-term 0.94

03:55:13.160 commitment if you could choose i'd rather be with somebody who's on

03:55:20.760 i'd rather be with somebody who's on my level who i can commit to i i mean that's just degrading

03:55:24.840 for you to like to use yourself in that other person in that way that's just degrading on on

03:55:29.960 all accounts sure i agree yeah i agree as well because i feel like if you're meeting someone at your

03:55:36.200 level you could also develop like a an emotional attachment to them and then you'll physically

03:55:43.720 like want to have at least for for women we visit we would physically want to have like sex with them 0.99

03:55:49.880 why would you not be attracted to someone on your level though huh why would you not be attracted to

03:55:54.360 someone that's equally as attractive as you though well because the question was

03:56:00.360 if a nine or ten right well he's saying he said if they were on your attraction level

03:56:06.200 um like how did you rate yourself oh like an e okay so you would

03:56:16.760 so that's what they mean like on your attraction level on the level that you rated yourself sorry 0.52

03:56:21.400 get these girls some energy god damn okay actually um all right um what were we talking about the the 0.85

03:56:34.600 temporary all right pull up the rest here let's just go through the rest of the tweets 0.94

03:56:40.040 she has a few more uh next

03:56:42.200 many such cases avoid like the plague at least being with the nine out of ten

03:56:49.160 um uh it was in response to tweet but we can at least being with the nine out of ten is temporary

03:56:54.200 and you can easily bail when it's not what you want anymore okay next

03:56:59.640 average men could up their value if they were willing to say do their part around the house

03:57:05.160 without being told but no they fight tooth and nail to avoid doing even that so she wants 0.99

03:57:09.960 chore play chore play chore play uh that's what doing chores is going to make you more attractive

03:57:18.280 guys okay next these are the only options men allow women to have other than being alone which

03:57:24.200 is also preferable to the five is there a next or i think that's it right okay i'm pretty sure that

03:57:32.040 does it so okay she's a bit i think she describes herself as i was trying to get her on the show 0.99

03:57:36.280 describes herself as a femme so quite the take there she'd rather be a sex toy to a really hot dude than 1.00

03:57:43.640 marry a guy on her level so is she a femme cell or is she a nine or ten because she's saying she wants 1.00

03:57:49.160 to be with a guy who's nine a nine or ten she's average looking okay so what why does she see a guy

03:57:56.520 who's a five as like below her she doesn't want to settle for a guy who's a five and she's also saying

03:58:01.720 like he needs to do house chores but the same thing would make her like a slave to him you know 0.99

03:58:07.720 what i mean like you should debate her because she's shallow she's not here yep uh let's do the 1.00

03:58:14.520 other tweets we got some kasumi tweets we got some tweets from you let's pull those up

03:58:22.760 oh this this is what you responded okay pull uh scroll up so i posted this on twitter

03:58:27.640 uh can someone explain this female phenomenon that one scroll down that one sweet guy that 1.00

03:58:33.720 would do anything for me but i somehow can't catch feelings for him scroll down because she doesn't

03:58:38.520 find him attractive handsome but the thing is here though uh on this and it got a lot of attention on

03:58:43.880 twitter is she's not saying he's unattractive so i mean we could make the assumption either way so pull

03:58:51.880 it back up really quick and then scroll back up so like the way i'm assuming this is that she does

03:58:59.720 find him attractive but by virtue of him doing the sweet things so he's kind of like being a simp or 0.98

03:59:07.080 whatever i don't know uh she's not attracted so he's like he's attractive but he's being a nice guy

03:59:13.640 and that turns her off that's the way i took that i think it's a given like wouldn't it be a given if

03:59:24.440 the dude's she's not attracted to the dude like he's not attractive of course she's not gonna

03:59:31.720 regardless of how sweet he is she's not gonna like him so but your point was well she's not

03:59:37.720 attracted to him but i don't know why you because i think in the same video she was talking about like

03:59:41.480 a guy treating her like trash but he was really attractive and she would rather have that than

03:59:46.200 the other guy oh wouldn't you think that it's a you want we want what we can't have like that's 0.78

03:59:51.640 why she's attracted to the bad boy rather than the guy that would just handle the whole world

03:59:56.760 word uh let's do the next tweet though

04:00:02.760 uh kasumi do you want to read this yeah okay

04:00:07.320 uh the self-proclaimed red pill gurus tell other men to find a woman

04:00:11.320 who embodies purity and loyalty but the same men often have girlfriends posting half naked pictures

04:00:17.000 online which immediately devalues their message you can't talk about the sanctity of loyalty when

04:00:23.560 your actions don't align with the very principles you preach there's nothing high value about a man who

04:00:29.560 can't even practice what he's selling so what really defines a high value man it's a man who can command

04:00:36.120 the respect of woman who is who is the object of desire for many other men it's not only about her

04:00:42.760 looks a woman who carries herself with dignity confidence and self-respect is a reflection of her

04:00:48.280 partner when you walk into a room with a woman of this caliber you don't need to say a word to make an

04:00:54.120 impact her presence the way she carries herself elevates you it's a silent acknowledgement that you are

04:00:59.720 someone worth looking up to in the end a high value man doesn't have to shout about his worth

04:01:05.640 it's understood by the caliber of woman beside him and the way she chooses to present herself

04:01:11.000 the real question isn't whether she's submissive or not but whether she's someone who brings out the

04:01:16.520 best in you someone who makes you strive to be the to be the best version of yourself when you truly

04:01:22.680 understand that dynamic you realize it's not about the words you speak or the ideal you sell ideal

04:01:29.400 yourself it's about living with integrity and letting the world see your value to your actions and choices

04:01:37.880 okay that was a lot of words um you said it's not about being submissive though and then you also

04:01:44.840 this maybe this is just a nitpick you said a high value man is a man who can get

04:01:50.920 uh with a woman who a lot of other men desire but like you would agree with me that a lot of men

04:02:00.360 desire like do desire have desire uh only fans girls or porn stars and what type of men are those

04:02:12.200 but you said in order to be uh by the way i don't like the like high value or like the alpha male stuff

04:02:17.800 but you said that a high value man is a man who uh can get a woman who is desired by a lot of other

04:02:25.160 men yeah but like there are clearly women who are desired by a lot of men who are just not like 0.93

04:02:35.240 good like high quality women looking the that's like on a bigger scale but usually when you're with your 1.00

04:02:41.880 group of friends there's usually one girl that just like everybody turns their head around like wow she's 0.97

04:02:47.320 looks amazing i would like to date her like as a man sure but she walks in with this guy and so 1.00

04:02:53.240 you have a lot of respect for that guy suddenly because you're walking he's walking next to her

04:02:58.840 in that type of context i mean like andrew tate shouts about his cars about this and that and he's

04:03:03.960 all constantly showing how much of a high value man is he has but look at the women he's dating

04:03:09.240 like they're not the most attractive beautiful looking woman that have that type of presence when 1.00

04:03:14.440 they enter a room so it's like there's a big group of people that look up to andrew tate but also a big

04:03:20.600 group of people that are looking down upon him and don't see him as that high value man like he's

04:03:25.080 self-proclaiming okay i i mean i don't really disagree with you about andrew uh andrew tate but um

04:03:35.400 you mentioned though the submissive you think women shouldn't be submissive or what what's your 0.95

04:03:39.560 position they do in there's certain dynamics in a relationship and uh i feel like also the man

04:03:45.320 should have the final decision but it's both of you uh discussing certain things but yeah to a

04:03:51.720 certain extent yes the man should have the final yeah say okay decisions okay well nothing there for

04:03:59.480 me to disagree with emotional damage says in my opinion women over the age of 30 are basically left 0.88

04:04:03.640 over uh no one they dated wanted oh he said crap okay well i don't i don't agree with that but um

04:04:11.720 no one they dated wanted to marry them in their prime the young men who date older women is doing 1.00

04:04:17.800 so just because of a perverted fantasy rather than the quality of the woman i kind of turned it around

04:04:24.200 there then you you have a response there or um yeah i don't really agree with him of course i don't

04:04:33.640 really either i'm again i'm in a younger relationship yeah and i mean i was technically going to be

04:04:40.600 engaged and get married in my prime and i chose not to because the person that i was with was a piece

04:04:45.240 of crap so completely agree i was engaged too and i so i don't necessarily think that and i think that 0.85

04:04:51.240 realistically right now the relationship i'm in he's five years younger than me and i'm again 0.98

04:04:55.800 i'm learning things from him and i don't think it's some sick perverted thing i think we balance

04:05:00.280 each other out okay um calling women in over 30 leftovers is kind of crazy like that they're not in

04:05:09.640 their prime anymore sometimes i feel like a lot of people are in their 30s are now established in

04:05:13.960 their career and are actually like i don't know i mean men don't want that i feel like that's what

04:05:18.760 yeah it's like they don't really value that they don't like that they don't like to have to compete

04:05:22.440 with um with their woman with their their female counterpart i mean realistically at the end of the

04:05:28.520 day i know we're all supposed to be caretakers and everything like that and if that's the position

04:05:31.560 that i was put in and it was okay i want you to stay home and take care of the kids and everything

04:05:35.480 along those lines i would have no problem doing that even in my 30s like yes i have an established

04:05:39.800 career and everything along those lines but at the end of the day like if that's what's going to

04:05:44.600 make my significant other other happy and that's what our goal is as a family unit then that's what

04:05:48.920 i'm gonna do i don't think i'm leftover crap for that yeah i don't know i know a lot of people are

04:05:55.080 women in their 30s who even look better than when they were in their mid-20s i know it's far and few 0.62

04:06:00.280 between sometimes but like like you know you mature into your face you don't look like a little girl

04:06:04.200 anymore like you are a woman i would feel like if we're even going to talk about looks and stuff like 0.72

04:06:08.040 that which i guess it's all guys care about it seems like that keeps coming up but i know i said earlier

04:06:13.160 that i looked better in my 20s well yeah obviously in my early 20s i looked a lot better than i do

04:06:16.840 now but like i would say my prime was probably when i was 25 27 like even five years ago i think

04:06:22.120 i look better than i do now but again it's because i took care of myself and i you know

04:06:26.760 but i've learned a lot now too i don't necessarily look the best that i ever have but i don't think

04:06:30.440 i look absolutely terrible mm-hmm yeah i just found that interesting i think he just said that to

04:06:36.520 like piss you guys off it's like a reminder to your argument probably i say stuff like that all 0.76

04:06:41.320 the time i know we grew up in a society where uh young girls weren't thought to um marry young 0.79

04:06:50.280 because everybody is telling them to go for their career to first finish their study to get their like

04:06:56.200 be so independent so how can you blame all the women for uh like at 30 having their career and 0.99

04:07:04.200 everything and then waiting for marriage and then i'm sorry i'm not explaining myself so well

04:07:09.640 but yeah society is basically created in a in a way that tells women to first focus on school on 0.99

04:07:16.200 their career and then think about marriage so it's not all their fault for now knowing this later in

04:07:23.400 life yeah i would have taken different choices for example yeah it's a backwards way of of thinking the

04:07:29.160 way that they spun it now you know especially with uh feminism especially you know third and fourth 1.00

04:07:34.920 wave feminism it's all about um hating men hating the patriarchy and finding anything that is dominant 0.96

04:07:42.520 from masculine you deem it toxic masculinity and women are just it's like you said women are just 1.00

04:07:47.800 taught now in modern day society to provide for themselves to be independent this this girl boss but 1.00

04:07:56.040 there's some deep hatred within that as well deep hatred for um for men for the traditional uh gender

04:08:03.080 roles yeah i agree with you yeah because once a woman feels like she doesn't need a man and like in

04:08:08.280 general in society women feel like they don't need men and it's almost like starting to make them feel 0.99

04:08:13.160 like men don't have a purpose so it's they're starting to disrespect men and overall it's just bad for

04:08:20.760 every dynamic every relationship dynamic because men are growing up with this idea that they're not as

04:08:25.960 good as good as women or that they should be like putting women on a pedestal and a lot of women 1.00

04:08:31.960 grew up thinking that they are above men and end up disrespecting them as well

04:08:39.960 some of these comments i wish they could like submit a photo of themselves

04:08:43.480 because i'd be like oh okay they have before yeah one time i think and he wasn't bad looking oh shocking

04:08:51.720 we've been walking it just got quiet and you're like staring at us awkwardly

04:09:08.200 but maybe a question why are men over 30 not leftovers why is because of fertility is that the

04:09:21.400 only reason i think so yeah they're basically saying i think that's what i mean i'm not saying

04:09:25.560 i agree with that but but they're also more established like they more women find men who are

04:09:31.080 over 30 attractive than men find women over 30 attractive that's just the truth like kind of 0.85

04:09:35.800 disagree with that would you choose brad pitt when he was in his 20s or when he was in his 30s he

04:09:40.600 both is famous and serious like when the way okay but i don't think most of the women would choose brad

04:09:47.480 pitt in his uh when he's older if you met brad pitt on the street street and he wasn't brad pitt and

04:09:52.360 it was a matter of how many resources stability and then you factor that in with the traction as well

04:09:59.160 i think you'd be surprised i think many women would choose him but i'm talking about young women

04:10:04.920 like high school women uh girls i'm not talking about high school but girls in their 20s if you

04:10:10.920 would present them with brad pitt when he was 22 23 with brad pitt like over 30 40 what would the

04:10:18.440 girls go for because it's brad pitt probably 40 just because he he aged really well any other regular

04:10:26.440 man he's not that attractive maybe i mean i'd be willing to to grant that probably like a 20 year old

04:10:32.920 woman would be fine dating 22 year old brad pitt like yeah yeah who would she choose between 22 1.00

04:10:40.360 versus 32 yeah i think she'd honestly she'd pick it's hard to say but yeah i'll just say 22.

04:10:47.480 yeah i would think so too and just to make a bigger comparison because men always talk or like people

04:10:53.400 always talk about that women go for the richer wealthier guy with more status if i would put bill 1.00

04:10:59.560 gates here and brad pitt here what would she choose sorry bill gates and who bill gates he's

04:11:05.400 really rich but no no but who's the other one i knew i know who bill but at a certain threshold

04:11:11.320 you have that stability having extra millions even billions it's it's diminishing returns

04:11:19.320 because i think if you're like literally stacking up brad pitt with bill gates i think many people

04:11:23.560 many women would go for brad pitt yeah i mean also still secure it's like no it isn't a good argument

04:11:30.680 though like but i i would agree that like most women would pick uh brad pitt like broke broke brad pitt 0.99

04:11:43.720 or well bill gates super rich bill gates yeah i think most women pick brad pitt oh that's interesting i

04:11:50.840 didn't realize you're talking about broke brad pitt yeah well i don't think she was but yeah but

04:11:55.400 that's a better one that's probably a better way to to frame frame it but i think it's a tough analysis

04:12:03.080 though it's it wouldn't be the same woman in a way here's what i think it would be uh they have the

04:12:11.640 child and well i don't know man i was gonna say they have the child with brad pitt and then they go to

04:12:17.560 bill gates for his resources and then bill gates is like the little simp boy who's like paying for

04:12:23.560 but even then i'm like if the woman had to choose like for everything like to have kids with i think 0.67

04:12:32.200 she takes brad pitt but i don't know if like most women have like a similar choice in life to that so 0.83

04:12:42.200 yeah i think it's impossible it's just like this hypothetical that yeah um people yeah the chat

04:12:47.720 seems to agree like no chick is picking bill gates but i'm sure bro in the 90s bill gates was crushing it

04:12:57.000 he was that silicon valley i mean to be fair like the the silicon valley mass musk passed

04:13:04.920 now i think i was just mentioning this because there's always a discussion online that

04:13:08.760 women are only pursuing uh men with status and money like when they're older that men when they're 1.00

04:13:14.520 older men will have more status and money but the the attractiveness of men will also fade at some

04:13:20.040 point so it's not like if you have a 20 year old girl she would rather go for the hot 25 year old

04:13:27.560 than the 44 year old with money and yeah i agree with that i actually don't disagree and also just to

04:13:31.880 be clear when it comes to the age gap stuff i'm not saying like if if a younger woman who's like 20 wants 0.71

04:13:38.600 to date an older guy you can make that choice but i also acknowledge like probably like the majority

04:13:43.800 of young women have a strong preference or prefer or ultimately end up dating men around their age

04:13:53.560 so it's not i'm not making i'm not saying a should like they should date older men if they want to okay

04:14:01.320 many claim that men peak at the around 35 now i'm not sure how accurate

04:14:07.240 that number is thrown around a lot when are you peaking right now warren like it looks were you

04:14:15.240 just you you went to film school right yeah so you were dealing with like a bunch of theater chicks

04:14:20.840 and stuff and i was super awkward in high school no way dude you were crushing it were you doing theater

04:14:27.080 classes or what not in high school no no no i was just i can tell you this is for any men listening that

04:14:33.480 um because garden state that movie came out back then and there was this idea of being

04:14:41.800 right around the time the manic pixie dream girl came it's like this girl's going to come along and 0.98

04:14:45.880 all you have to do is be the sincere bashful artsy sensitive guy and you just be yourself and

04:14:53.160 and she'll just you know natalie portman will come along and if you live like that it's you'll you

04:14:59.880 kind of regret it later once you gain experience and realize it just doesn't work that way you have

04:15:04.440 to be more adventurous and assertive like i think many people have been describing in the word we use

04:15:10.760 is what dominant is it perhaps that's what i mean by that but um something about the word dominance is

04:15:20.760 a bit like taking initiative a little more it's definitely initiative assertive yes you have to you

04:15:26.040 can't wait for the manic pixie dream girl and so i had that idea in high school kind of that

04:15:32.200 and looking back on it i'm like we got a message here from lucas he says we do not want a woman over

04:15:39.560 30 with a career that challenges us the wisest man ever to walk this earth king solomon once said

04:15:47.080 better to live alone in a desert than with a quarrelsome wife oh this is proverb this is uh yeah i mean

04:15:54.280 pretty much the same then with a quarrelsome and nagging wife uh yo lucas thank you so much for 0.68

04:15:59.400 the message man really appreciate it uh is anybody here just curious anybody here religious are you

04:16:03.320 you're a christian you have the cross uh what denomination are you i'm greek orthodox oh you're

04:16:09.480 okay gotcha um oh i had a question related to that but lucas is sending a follow-up likewise why do you

04:16:17.320 modern day gals fight so hard against biology however you spin it the average woman has lost 90 percent of 1.00

04:16:23.720 her viable eggs by age 30 leftover crap is harsh but the sentiment is true from lucas

04:16:34.680 is that true 90 percent yeah i think yeah it definitely depletes after 0.92

04:16:40.520 that's a nice way of putting these depleted women you do lose your biological value a lot of your 1.00

04:16:46.040 biological value by the time you are 30 i can understand why that's not you know that's not

04:16:49.880 attractive to men especially since we have that primal instinct i mean to reproduce yeah they can

04:16:56.120 get pregnant though they can i mean my mom helped me when she was 41 yeah in the 40s they can still get

04:17:01.560 pregnant you know so uh mary g b day pop i'll buy the pizza wait oh this is mary for are you hungry mary is

04:17:11.800 that it you just want pizza oh somebody has to do you know what i'll do though i'll do uh i'll do

04:17:18.760 one if somebody wants to no no what i'll do is i'll do uh one only one half off champagne pop so we'll

04:17:27.800 do 500 500 champagne pop gotta get warren here liquored up gotta send them back to uh it doesn't cost

04:17:36.120 500 does it if somebody spent 500 on yeah it's up to you guys if you want to but yeah i'll do

04:17:46.680 half off for a champagne pop for our boy warren g okay uh let's oh there's a soup chat coming in

04:17:53.880 emotional damage most women in their 20s would choose broke brad pitt but that's caused their 0.98

04:18:00.360 frontal cortex is not developed and they make bad choices they end up getting engaged to losers like

04:18:05.960 that and then break break it off then they matured to become chair two and four unmarried and unwanted

04:18:13.560 oh my god they're not unwanted how dare you emotional damage i do you have a man you guys have men 1.00

04:18:20.840 uh thank you mike davis good to see you in the chat thank you for your soup chat dude it's been a

04:18:27.320 minute uh oh we have lucas here chair six are you a cradle greek orthodox or a convert both my parents

04:18:37.240 are off the boat from greece i would love to talk about this um so all my grandparents both my

04:18:42.280 grandmothers and my grandfathers are off the boat from greece my parents were born and raised in

04:18:47.800 uh the united states they grew up speaking greek um involved in the greek church and i was baptized

04:18:53.720 uh my siblings and i were all baptized greek orthodox when we were infants less than a year old

04:18:58.120 so i am right from the get-go greek greek orthodox i didn't really have a choice got it um and you said

04:19:05.560 you've been uh wait question as it relates to dating though with your religion like you're you're

04:19:11.080 waiting until marriage right uh yeah yeah okay got it um oh uh wait do we have other super chats or

04:19:25.720 okay you can get those pulled up though um we're gonna get into the questionnaire here i'm gonna

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04:20:53.320 check that out too uh okay we uh are going to go through the questionnaire right now pepper your

04:21:02.200 angus because okay pepper your anger never mind whatever pepper your angus okay uh oh going really

04:21:11.240 quick to this we were talking about body count earlier but i didn't want to just just go there

04:21:15.720 right away because it came up early um should just show of hands should body count matter or should it

04:21:24.360 not matter should it just got you guys all up all confused now

04:21:32.520 okay does any okay going around the table what's your body count starting with felicity go ahead

04:21:39.320 um i don't feel comfortable disclosing that i'm not not comfortable with the number but i think that's

04:21:45.000 something that should be kept between myself and you know whoever i'm dating are you are you a virgin

04:21:51.080 are you willing to answer that question that's the same question is it not

04:21:56.760 well you i'm assuming that you're well i wanted the clarification because you said you don't want

04:22:01.640 to reveal the number which i suppose it could be because it is you know it i i could be 100 percent

04:22:08.280 i 100 believe it is important to disclose that i just don't think i necessarily have to

04:22:12.680 throw that out on the internet but you know no you don't have to intimate you know dating

04:22:17.080 uh in setting for sure i will i will give out that i will offer that number because i know it is

04:22:21.960 important yeah you don't have to give the number i'm just asking for clarification if like if if you're

04:22:27.560 a virgin i assume you would yeah i am oh okay there you go oh okay i got confused because you said you

04:22:34.760 didn't want to give out the number which i guess zero anyway okay whatever what about you lena two

04:22:41.800 okay five five five yeah five okay six i'm also not gonna say it do you want to do a range range

04:22:51.880 it's still countable guys please it's still countable on one hand but that's it okay yeah

04:22:57.000 15 it's gonna make me look real bad multiply it by three and that's the real number no for all of

04:23:06.120 you so um yeah i appreciate the honesty thank you very much appreciate it why do you ask about it

04:23:11.480 warren do you want to share your i'm too old for the script what's yours oh i don't share it what i don't

04:23:20.280 share that uh oh uh virgin no just kidding um let's see here okay uh a woman should not be rejected

04:23:29.640 because of her weight leanna you circled that you circle you agree you agree uh that's pretty much

04:23:39.080 it uh why are you just curious what what's your reasoning there i guess wait i circled that i don't

04:23:44.600 think a woman should be so the statement is a woman should not be rejected because of her weight 0.68

04:23:49.320 you circled it so you agree with the statement i don't think so but i know people are going to do

04:23:53.880 it anyways i mean no you know what i kind of take that back because i think everyone is entitled to

04:23:58.440 their own likes i don't know i was just thinking in a specific situation if you're dating someone who

04:24:07.400 gets fat and she's trying or he or she is trying to do the effort to lose weight then i think you

04:24:13.480 shouldn't be like um um i forgot the word in english so wait she shouldn't reject them because

04:24:22.280 they got fat for example if they're doing the effort to lose the weight again you shouldn't be

04:24:26.840 rejecting them but if it is a preference to you uh to not date someone that is overweight you shouldn't

04:24:31.720 be doing it but the reject the rejecting somebody would typically indicate that it's up front so

04:24:42.680 just to clarify so the woman is trying to lose weight is it your position that a man should not 0.65

04:24:49.400 reject her then if she's trying to lose the weight like he likes everything else about her but she's

04:24:55.080 really fat but she's trying to lose weight so he should go ahead and date her anyways no if he doesn't

04:25:00.440 want to do that then no oh if they're in a relationship you shouldn't just based on that

04:25:05.560 just reject her or like break up okay your thoughts on this um obviously i feel like women should be 0.98

04:25:12.040 rejected for their weight because um the woman body can fluctuate sometimes and sometimes yeah it's not 1.00

04:25:20.200 based on it's not based on what it's not based on uh like i don't know sometimes like people

04:25:29.400 women have a lot of health conditions so okay yeah i feel like they shouldn't be so the guy should 1.00

04:25:36.440 go ahead and date her even though he doesn't want to because she's temporarily fat due to her health

04:25:45.080 problems i mean yeah what liana said like obviously the answer is like i would like not for that to happen

04:25:57.480 but i mean people are gonna like what they like at the end of the day but like women reject men for

04:26:02.360 like a wide variety of physical characteristics i'm not gonna reject a man for his height really

04:26:09.960 most of the men i've dated are short i swear i swear look at you can look at my track record when you

04:26:15.240 say short let's go into details so you you had a uh two-year relationship how tall was he five eight

04:26:21.240 i'll tell you five four okay i mean i've dated a five five guy i mean i typically would prefer if

04:26:27.400 a man's my height or would you date a guy who's shorter than you i did in middle school

04:26:33.560 that's middle school that's different but like okay i mean it's not i wouldn't

04:26:38.360 would you date a dwarf maybe if if he's the best man i've ever met okay i would date a dwarf by the 0.51

04:26:47.080 the way i'm not trying to throw any shade yeah to the dwarf community i think if you anybody knows

04:26:52.600 a female dwarf link me up um okay would you date a guy who's shorter than you no would you date a guy 0.99

04:27:00.600 shorter than you i dated a guy that was my height but okay how about this let me change it because

04:27:05.080 y'all want to play this game is it your preference to date a guy who's shorter than you to be honest no

04:27:12.440 okay all right we're getting to that age right it's gonna start to happen soon i mean some guys 0.98

04:27:29.000 bald even in like high school and shit my grandpa has a full head of like white hair i'm talking like 0.98

04:27:35.400 so full my dad is fully bald and pulled a 20 year old when he was 40 so it could happen 0.99

04:27:41.000 good job go down all right my dad's fully bald and he pulled this is for you we almost talked about 0.98

04:27:48.680 uh wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex you say that's 0.92

04:27:55.320 wrong why is that did i say that's wrong what you agreed to the statement um so wrong for a man to

04:28:03.400 dump his girlfriend if she i do not agree with that i didn't read it right oh okay gotcha all right so

04:28:09.240 you're if she's like if she's only sleeping with him like three times a year you think it's totally

04:28:14.760 fine like yeah like she said you need to work it out to the best of your ability but right yeah okay

04:28:20.680 uh somebody here did you would not date a police officer that's you uh katrina right right uh why is

04:28:28.200 that why would you not do the police officer i think i i have a lot of respect for them i want to preface

04:28:32.040 that respect for police my uncle was a cop i respect them but um i just think you know

04:28:40.200 i think there's a lot that that goes on there i feel like they're the types to

04:28:45.720 like lawyers you know bring their their work home with them and you know there's a lot of um

04:28:51.960 baggage there a lot of trauma that i might just not be able to necessarily carry on i worry that that

04:28:56.360 might you know uh damage the the marriage that i would have with them might somehow interfere with

04:29:01.880 the family and i've seen it before with um with lawyers somebody you know he a lawyer goes in to

04:29:08.840 argue he'll bring eventually over time he brings home his arguments and his debates with him and

04:29:14.120 brings that into the marriage and it just terminates it i don't you know i think similarly that could

04:29:18.440 happen with police officers and i just okay i want to avoid that for myself and my future kids uh you

04:29:24.360 know it doesn't sound like you have anything against police officers though is that correct

04:29:28.680 nothing against them uh let's see here we have one sec uh alina men care more about looks than women

04:29:37.000 do they do to which you agree i think so yeah surprise you're actually the only one who circled that i

04:29:42.920 figured most of the women would think that men see everyone besides alina you guys think women care 0.90

04:29:49.880 more about looks than i wouldn't say more i would say possibly equal yeah like i care about what a

04:29:55.560 man looks like too are we caring about what we look or is a men care a man caring about how he looks

04:30:00.200 are we caring about the opposite sex opposite sex see that's not how the question was worded

04:30:05.160 well it says men care more about uh that's fair so that's where my that's where my i think yes i think

04:30:10.680 men care more about how women look i could see how it could be interpreted where it's your own looks

04:30:16.360 okay perhaps we should reward that uh a woman's career money status makes her more attractive to 1.00

04:30:24.360 men to which leanna you agree well after today's conversation i disagree uh casey you agree with

04:30:31.880 that uh oops and then okay that just so you now disagree well i mean after everything that's been

04:30:39.400 spoken about today i'd like to think that men would like a successful woman as well like not overstepping 0.56

04:30:45.080 like i don't think success equals dominant necessarily but i think it's an attractive

04:30:50.760 quality for a woman to have goals as well and want something for herself a career want to be a mom 1.00

04:30:56.120 and and have other things and i so i feel like i don't know i i would like to think that a man

04:31:03.160 finds a woman who strives to be successful just as much as a man to be attractive but maybe i'm wrong

04:31:09.480 with today's discussions your thoughts on this you also circle the woman's career money status 0.96

04:31:14.760 just because uh like i was thinking of it in my current relationship like we both have goals and

04:31:22.600 ambitions that we both want to pursue and i find it that we like find it attractive within each other

04:31:29.880 that we're constantly wanting to learn wanting to grow and grow our businesses and stuff so that's why i

04:31:35.320 think that it's not uh who who here is currently has a career or is pursuing a career i have a career

04:31:46.680 pursuing pursuing a career do you work do you have a job fitness industry fitness industry career pursuing

04:31:55.720 let's say you meet a guy i know some of you are currently in relationships so say your current

04:31:59.880 boyfriend or whatever uh he ends up getting a new job and he becomes a really high earner

04:32:07.880 your boyfriend or future boyfriend whatever it is says or let me change it to your husband

04:32:14.680 your future husband says to you i want you to stop working 0.98

04:32:20.760 i'm making enough money to support both of us making more than enough money to support both of us

04:32:25.400 want to start and also just show of hands who here wants kids because that's going to be a factor in

04:32:30.840 this conversation no kids for you i'm not biased if my partner wants kids i'm more influenced to want

04:32:36.200 to have children but i don't have like a general design it's not yeah okay it's not all right okay uh

04:32:43.400 are you willing in the scenario where your partner does make enough money to fully support the uh

04:32:48.600 family are you willing to stop working if he asks you to i would be willing to stop working for a

04:32:55.560 period of time to birth and raise my kid for the first few years but i would like maybe once they're

04:33:00.280 old enough for me to return to my passions eventually which are what um so i'm in event

04:33:04.600 management so i plan weddings and um a lot of yeah is that a stressful job yes like but it's extremely

04:33:13.400 rewarding coordinating with people and the bridezilla oh absolutely yeah but so your husband makes so

04:33:19.800 much money at this point that you don't need to work and do you would you and your husband's like

04:33:27.560 a condition i don't know if this is the best framing but perhaps a condition he doesn't say

04:33:31.880 this but a condition of you staying with him you know he's going to be really dissatisfied in the

04:33:35.800 relationship if you continue working because he wants you to stay at home do you stop working

04:33:41.400 because your husband asks you to in the sense of raising children yes but if it's just all 18 1.00

04:33:48.600 years he's like we're going to homeschool those fuckers i think kids should go to school and get 0.99

04:33:53.640 that social like that's just my own person yeah you can do whatever i don't know i think that eventually 0.99

04:33:59.000 i would like to at least have so like i don't just do event management i'm also a group fitness

04:34:03.160 instructor on the side so i'd like to at least have like a side job maybe something that i'm

04:34:07.080 passionate about that i enjoy doing like one or two days a week to keep you know keep keep my

04:34:12.360 passions alive too and things that i like to do just a little side thing not necessarily to support

04:34:16.520 the family but you know i have my own interests and i i'm totally open to like the first five years

04:34:21.960 being fully like the home maker and like the mother and i look forward to that but eventually i'd like

04:34:27.480 to go back to what about you yeah i would also agree and then eventually work on creative outlets

04:34:33.080 i could do so yeah okay so you would stop working if he asked you to okay what about you um i would

04:34:42.040 stop working for like like you said the first five years but um no he wants you to stop working for

04:34:48.920 till 18. till they're all out of the house in college how about that that's crazy why is that crazy

04:34:56.760 well because also i think like the way i think about it i like to have a sense of purpose and ambition

04:35:02.840 your children and your family which yes but then also when they grow up and they're around like

04:35:08.920 let's say 12 years old to uh 18 they kind of grow into an independency state or not independency but

04:35:17.400 like leave me alone i don't want i don't need anything from you so all like you kind of have to do is just

04:35:22.120 cook bring food or whatever so i kind of would want to have a conversation with my partner and want to

04:35:30.440 kind of go back and have like that goal purpose again for myself even though yes my family is the

04:35:38.680 goal okay so you're saying after the kids are out of the household then you would what if he was like

04:35:44.840 even then he's like you know what i need my needs attended to no by you would you then so like a personal

04:35:53.880 slave a mother no not a slave but like you know he provides you take care of the household and you

04:36:00.360 can still take care of the household and not have kids in the household you know take care of him

04:36:06.600 comes from up comes home from work everything's all clean got a meal ready for him and then you can go

04:36:14.680 during the day to your yoga and your pilates and well that's alive you can uh you know watch

04:36:21.560 oprah or whatever is it is she still on network i don't know i think you can have a small side job

04:36:27.800 and still do all of that like oh my goodness we have sorry wait hold on somebody somebody came in and

04:36:35.160 like all right can you get me a champagne bottle one thousand dollars cheers one of the bottles

04:36:43.960 what's up warren enjoy watching your analysis videos bro jungle showing up checking in and hitting

04:36:50.120 hard thank you dude stay safe out there bro la is crazy it is crazy by the way jungle it's actually

04:36:59.000 warren's birthday so thank you for finally getting uh getting the champagne pop in here towards the

04:37:05.480 uh tail end of the show uh just checking in here everybody wants some champagne champagne yes no no 0.97

04:37:13.480 really it's fucking warren legendary it's warren's birthday i'll have some brain you're underage so no no 0.99

04:37:22.920 no but yes no it's warren's birthday i don't drink you don't oh you don't drink okay no no okay yes so 0.99

04:37:31.640 one two you want some warren please four okay lovely lovely you guys are we're gonna it means a lot

04:37:38.600 here in comments like that yeah yeah the audience really uh a lot a lot of fans of your content warren

04:37:45.640 warren are you gonna are you gonna clip up what of tonight do you think you're gonna well not clip

04:37:50.760 up i mean uh are you gonna create a clip uh like on your channel of some of the condo tonight

04:37:56.600 i thought we had an interesting are i think your audience is gonna hate me though because of our

04:38:01.320 exchange i mean you have a very compelling argument if you have your logic it's it's an interesting one

04:38:08.280 they're gonna be like this beta soy soy boy wouldn't go down with the titanic they're gonna be like 0.97

04:38:14.520 fucking warren just mogged the shit out of brian with him warren's he would go down i thought that 0.99

04:38:23.320 he's our man we had some good debaters no it was good it was good impressive all right um here let me 0.99

04:38:29.480 read uh can somebody read for me here alina i'm gonna have you read the read this okay chair six

04:38:36.120 that's really cool find me on x if you wish my ex handle is lucas as well i'm married by the way and

04:38:42.920 an attorney maybe wife slash i can make an intro to a virtuous high earner he'll be hot too 1.00

04:38:51.320 are you is he i have to actually comprehend what that's saying is he trying to set me up with

04:38:54.920 somebody yes yeah it's coming

04:39:00.600 it's somebody greased it

04:39:04.200 it's

04:39:12.600 it's greased 0.97

04:39:15.560 uh yo jungle you're fucking let by the way jungle is the guy who actually um he he uh was the one who 0.97

04:39:24.360 did the pickle jar pop the olive jar it was an olive jar actually oh is he the one he no well uh 0.98

04:39:31.800 jungle is the one who kind of instigated that whole thing it was all jungle's fault

04:39:37.720 viral all over the internet uh all right so we got these budweiser cups from the 80s or some

04:39:45.000 shit they look classic oh yeah i like the rainbow ones yet before you know what felicity

04:39:52.200 let's go back to party city go go put the uh go put the dunce cap on okay who's 0.98

04:39:58.200 yeah we'll pass him down pass it to her uh wait so wait did you get that from lucas though that was

04:40:04.600 directed at you for chair sakes okay alina read this while i'm sorry trying to multitask here

04:40:08.920 a short man cannot change his height without corrective surgery a fat woman can lose weight 1.00

04:40:13.240 this is true any other excuse on why a fat woman being unable to lose weight is pure cope one thousand 1.00

04:40:18.280 percent yeah that's pretty filled up high so just be careful george has a lot to say today i want to

04:40:25.800 know what george looks like can you submit a photo of yourself look he is one of the most handsome 0.63

04:40:30.680 native american canadian man i've oh shit oh geez okay well i don't drink much either well here then 0.99

04:40:39.160 give warren give warren this big one it's his birthday you know what jungle's a fucking giga chat he 0.99

04:40:43.240 might pop more so all right uh let's do a quick uh cheers to jungle uh saloon to thank you uh to 0.96

04:40:53.240 secret scholar society and to warren's birthday happy 30th yay happy birthday it's a good birthday

04:41:04.600 is this how you thought you'd spend your 38th birthday oh

04:41:07.320 no on the whatever podcast with this is like one of the best birthdays i've had in a long

04:41:13.240 time oh wow that was kind of a wholesome moment there on that really was that was sweet you know

04:41:18.040 we've been talking about like stop celebrating when you get older you know you do get this man 0.88

04:41:24.280 a birthday cake it is almost 10 p.m where the fuck can you get a birthday wait let me door let me i'm 0.99

04:41:29.240 door-dashing you some birthday cake quick no i am gonna say can you get a birthday cake at 0.99

04:41:34.360 if it's at this hour from time what time is it if it's past 10 you can't order baskin robbins

04:41:42.280 because they have birthday cakes yeah let me see here guys yeah warren you wanted to talk about

04:41:50.440 oh by the way guys as a celebratory celebratory celebrity celebrity

04:41:56.920 english is my second language uh i've reduced the tts to 69 dollars so

04:42:03.160 pasty george oh my god i screwed it up already it's not i'll read it uh jungle f i would only

04:42:09.800 give the champagne pop to warren and brian the women the oh i gotta re-trigger it the women who 1.00

04:42:15.960 are brainwashed on panel not not worth it happy birthday warren forgot to page george you're not worth

04:42:21.560 that all right so the tts has been fixed i just came through as a read for that one thank you

04:42:29.560 pacey george appreciate it man all right 69 tts guys if you want to get a message in we've lowered it you

04:42:34.920 want to ask our boy you you want to ask my caucasian over here warren warren smith you want sorry i'm

04:42:40.520 already drunk i don't drink so i'm a bit of a lightweight i'm already tipsy so it gets fun when

04:42:44.840 brian drinks oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah brother okay uh wait what i already forgot my you're talking about

04:42:54.520 tts 69 tts if you want to show some love for warren and some hate for felicity okay oh just kidding

04:43:02.440 don't do that or do it whatever she i don't care she doesn't care whatever she needs you know what we

04:43:08.680 need some roasts towards alina over there she's got i can take it yeah you know too many simps last 0.97

04:43:17.080 time okay anyways what the what are we talking okay uh dating dating podcast got it a woman's career 1.00

04:43:24.280 money status warren you're now engaged but when you were single would you have dated a barista who was

04:43:36.120 hot or like would you have cared like is it when you were single was it a high priority

04:43:42.280 like a woman's money or her career or her status or were there other things that were way more

04:43:47.480 important there's other there was definitely other things it's i was a teacher for much of the time

04:43:55.880 and i would i'll literally tell you how much i was making every two weeks i would get a check for

04:43:59.400 one thousand four hundred dollars every two weeks 12 months a year so i was constantly trying to

04:44:07.800 throw hail mary's and think of play a long game and it i got lucky it ended up in an unexpected way but

04:44:17.000 but i mean there was that there was that it was interesting being in a relationship with someone who

04:44:25.320 came from so much money and she didn't work she had never worked a day in her life and it was

04:44:32.680 there's something to

04:44:35.400 adversity and it's not that she just didn't work it's that she had never really faced any adversity

04:44:39.320 in a way and i don't want to like just bad mouth um an ex or anything but it was

04:44:45.800 you could really see it in the in her character but that was an interesting dynamic too

04:44:55.320 to be facing like but it wasn't now that i'm through that it's completely the opposite now and

04:45:04.360 i prefer it the way it is if that makes sense like the person i'm with now it's not

04:45:11.160 they don't come for money at all so it's i feel very fortunate to be in a position where i can

04:45:16.760 provide and be in that role there is something deeply fulfilling i forgot what the question was

04:45:24.600 it's the alcohol it's the the champagne yeah i anyways but it doesn't matter really the oh my

04:45:31.720 goodness can i ask a question on that yes would you prefer that a woman have career goals and aspirations 1.00

04:45:39.800 or doesn't have any goals like career goals are important the question is what are the goals if

04:45:45.720 the goals are to i like the dynamic that's what attracted me one of the things that attracted me

04:45:50.680 to this individual is saying i i really my goal is to be a mom and to that's that was her dream she

04:45:59.320 wanted that and when we entered this relationship i was making a thousand four hundred now that i think

04:46:06.440 about it i'm like whoa that's what was i planning i mean but what else are you gonna do if that's

04:46:13.080 the dream and there's also the potential for i really believe in family businesses and i think

04:46:21.080 i've seen like my uncle contractor company he starts that and his wife my aunt kept the books and

04:46:28.280 things in a way so there's ways to contribute in a family personally i'm gonna just be completely honest

04:46:35.160 like my mom is the strongest smartest most professional 1.00

04:46:42.680 person i've ever seen like she's accomplished things are just incredible and it was a very

04:46:49.160 reverse dynamic is what i would describe as a traditional dynamic so growing up and seeing that

04:46:55.560 and she she's still working to this day because she loves it it's it's but it wasn't it didn't end up

04:47:01.720 they ended up getting divorced as well so i can see where that backfires but i can i can understand

04:47:09.960 someone who needs that purpose so it's a it's a i can understand both sides of it if that makes sense

04:47:18.520 but you would prefer oh my goodness oh goodness another champagne bottle please give me a paper

04:47:24.760 towel dollars yo pasty champagne pop is for warren only but it can be a birthday cake pop instead or

04:47:31.160 something else to one we'll do more champagne happy birthday warren thank you yo pasty thank you so much

04:47:37.560 man yo guys w's in the chat for pasty and also w's in the chat for jungle from earlier thank you so much

04:47:43.320 guys really appreciate it pasty he's our canadian hero he's our native american hero what what tribe

04:47:48.840 are you pasty are you i'm not sure you told us before but uh okay thank you i'll we'll pop another

04:47:57.640 uh that's really nice thank you yes uh wait this is for warren only that's what he said

04:48:04.680 so while warren can't opt to share it with the rest but i'll leave do you want to just pound drink

04:48:12.360 this whole thing i'll fill the glass up he'll have a good amount he'll have to celebrate for sure how

04:48:18.360 much is left pound that warren we'll fill you up pound it it's like a frat house i have a feeling

04:48:25.880 that pasty george doesn't like me he'll be a little bit i don't think he likes any of it 1.00

04:48:29.080 yo pasty you're a legend thank you so much man uh oh i had a question uh okay so kind of related

04:48:37.640 going back to this topic a little bit perfect man for life or perfect career for life perfect 0.97

04:48:45.320 man perfect man perfect man perfect man anybody perfect career damn you guys are too can you guys 0.99

04:48:51.400 argue with me on something like i'll i'll find something how about this this is gonna piss you guys 0.99

04:48:57.080 off uh the guy won't kiss you after you've gone down on him bye bye i don't do that you don't you

04:49:12.760 don't why if i just she's i need like a 24 hour break 24 hours after even if she brushed her teeth 1.00

04:49:22.520 i'm kind of like shut up how old are you again 36 does it mean you're not cleaning yourself well

04:49:30.120 no wait why are you afraid of your own it's not like i could have like autoclaved is that wait what 0.99

04:49:38.360 the i could have autoclaved that shit and i wouldn't even like kiss kiss like i could just be out 0.99

04:49:46.200 fresh out fresh out of the shower done some crazy shit uv radiation uv light i don't it's just i 1.00

04:49:54.520 wouldn't do that would you kiss a woman after would you expect a woman to kiss you after going down on 0.99

04:49:59.560 her oh that's funny because i don't do that you're lying i don't you've never gone down on a woman oh i

04:50:09.480 have but you don't let me tell you the last time i did that uh it was the bush administration you

04:50:15.880 gotta remember i'm 36 right this is the tail end of the bush in this right it was like 2007 2008 obama

04:50:22.280 was about to come into office i have not gone down on the girls since george bush junior junior yes since

04:50:31.000 he was the president of the united states the great united states it's been a long time is what he's

04:50:37.720 trying to explain why the shirt any specific reason relax felicity i know you're very curious

04:50:43.560 about this i don't understand it the shirt yeah why why do you love big labia so much but you won't

04:50:50.760 i mean you won't go near one i know that's i mean a girl like you really love it or apparently i do

04:50:56.440 i am a fan of you're a poser from like far away i'm a poser yeah oh i'm a poser yeah yeah she's trying

04:51:03.400 she's trying to uh shame me into yeah sorry to interrupt you do you expect a woman to go down 1.00

04:51:08.760 on you uh would it would it be a would it would you feel upset if she never wanted to go down on you 1.00

04:51:15.080 it's not a deal it's not a deal breaker if a girl like never like she never will no not a deal breaker

04:51:21.240 it doesn't matter it's not a deal breaker but uh do they do it anyways like like have i dated women 1.00

04:51:29.560 who go down on me but yes sure but but it's not a deal it's not would i prefer them to go down on me

04:51:36.840 yeah it's great but i just i have a sexual boundary i have a sexual boundary i mean sure yeah whatever

04:51:45.560 floats your boat for the perfect woman would you go down on her oh that's a good question i think i 1.00

04:51:52.360 talked about what is it for the perfect woman would he eat the box yeah sure for the perfect 0.95

04:51:57.880 woman yes but that does not exist would you would you sleep with a woman on her period boys it's 0.92

04:52:05.080 greased hold on let me get time i don't like these kinds of conversations why just to visualize it

04:52:12.120 it no he's really trying your eyes look like they're gonna pop out of your head when you do that 0.98

04:52:22.680 damn bro that's crazy yeah the other champagne bottles are not all right let's get oh thank you 1.00

04:52:28.520 yeah anybody want more oh no this is just for porn i guess anybody want to fill up oh you'd like 1.00

04:52:34.680 to gift the rest of us you're saying tilt the cup yeah i used to be a bartender i gotta i gotta 0.89

04:52:38.680 tell you guys the thing though first off look it's a it's a uh sexual boundary you know i just don't

04:52:46.200 enjoy doing that and it can also give you throat cancer what going oh you didn't know warren let me

04:52:54.360 get you caught i gotta get you caught up to speed warren warren's woman going like this i have a feeling

04:52:59.720 going it uh throat cancer men who 1.00

04:53:05.800 eat pussy have a greater risk of developing throat cancer is that true it is true it is true you heard 1.00

04:53:13.880 it from mary whatever if mary says it must be true yes it's i'm telling you i'm telling you uh well there 0.99

04:53:22.200 you guys are still working on their champagne uh but he's not sharing it's for him to share

04:53:30.360 thanks warren we'll fill fill that up yeah i mean yeah but man i got

04:53:43.000 a girl got a if she's dealing with me she's it's a lot to you know i'm high maintenance i'm high

04:53:48.200 maintenance you know describe your perfect woman hey relax felicity felicity uh perfect woman yeah

04:53:56.120 won't touch it giant hey first off let me just make something very clear let me make something

04:54:03.400 very clear okay uh i believe the woman should and needs to come first that's fair if possible multiple 1.00

04:54:13.880 times that's your perfect one well no well i was getting they distracted me from here uh let's do

04:54:21.640 a quick cheers to our good friend pasty george uh my bfa to uh face george salue thank you salue

04:54:29.560 oh i poured it on the cup okay cheers

04:54:38.840 i still wanted to oh my god felicity you asked some crazy question she's got to come first preferably 1.00

04:54:43.800 multiple times if she can do that so i'm it's not like i'm being selfish she's still got to you 0.99

04:54:51.480 know i'm i want to please her i think that's fair but you can do it other ways hands penis 0.99

04:55:01.560 that's pretty much it i mean you could so you know whatever sometimes if you want blow on it from a 0.98

04:55:05.720 but yeah i mean what so is that a deal breaker for anybody like the guy won't go go down absolutely 0.66

04:55:15.960 because i feel like a lot of women don't come off of just penetration they have to be stimulated 1.00

04:55:22.520 and i feel like again like you said fingers toys i feel like you can be stimulated in other ways

04:55:26.920 yeah of course but i don't know i feel like women should get a head true no head 1.00

04:55:38.600 the steel burger for me personally warren you got to clip this clip this put it on your channel 0.99

04:55:43.320 on oral sex secret scholar society presents to you 0.99

04:55:47.720 look i'm just i am saying though you can get throat cancer with that you know if you're doing 1.00

04:55:55.240 that shit man you can get who's that guy who's that actor chat who's that chat chat who's the actor 0.96

04:56:01.480 who got throat cancer it's tied to like hpv because these dudes be you know i mean that's that's one of 0.99

04:56:09.880 the reasons also it's like look if you're dealing with a loyal girl but like yeah people be people 0.93

04:56:18.840 are giving oral sex like early on or even on a one night stand and you don't know where they've been 0.98

04:56:24.760 so it's like you definitely and or your girl could be cheating on you you don't even know 0.98

04:56:28.840 so like the idea of going down on a girl who just dealt with another guy

04:56:33.160 that's a yikes for me so then the question the same thing sure but hold on hold on there's 0.99

04:56:40.280 differences there's differences because as a dude if i i could have sex with a girl 0.96

04:56:47.960 and then go take a shower and i'm good isn't it i'm good i'm fret and i could see i could be with 0.98

04:56:54.440 another woman and i'm fresh the other one she's she's soaked off of me but if a guy blasts inside of you 1.00

04:57:03.800 that shit lingers at least two three days well business days by the way i have a question 0.98

04:57:08.840 though so if someone um or if a woman gets tested regularly and then she kind of she shows you the 0.98

04:57:17.320 test and she's like negative for everything um would you go down on her well look first of all

04:57:23.560 there's photoshop just he won't there's photoshop even a virgin i'm sure well also the thing with the

04:57:29.800 test though is that a lot of these tests they don't test for like herpes typically they don't

04:57:34.520 test for hpv they and also the test could not like she could have taken the test the dude 1.00

04:57:41.560 or she was asymptomatic when she took the test but now she's symptomatic i'm just saying

04:57:47.320 nah i'm good sorry to interrupt yeah no you're good go ahead oh wouldn't the same thing apply for sex then

04:57:53.160 what do you mean like if you're oh yeah sure those yeah but i mean like you're not as worried

04:57:57.720 if you at least i get something out of it so here's my question let's say you're in a committed

04:58:01.800 relationship with someone would you consider it then if you know not even not even it's a boundary

04:58:07.960 even in a committed relationship but for to lena's point the perfect woman there are compromises

04:58:15.800 okay i'm willing to make so you just don't like to do it like you just don't like the actual action

04:58:20.360 of doing it yes correct that's fine well hold on that and all the other negative consequences that

04:58:26.600 i was talking about too like the risk of throat cancer uh like if there's infidelity or if she's

04:58:33.000 dealing with another dude then yeah that would just be gross i agree with that like for me if he

04:58:39.720 doesn't want to do it then i don't want him to do it like it's not going to be enjoyable for me

04:58:43.800 if he's just doing it to please me if he's like oh my god i want to do that so bad then 1.00

04:58:49.240 that's the only way that i will enjoy too the fuck you guys what are you guys talking about felicity 1.00

04:58:54.360 you talking shit what are you talking about felicity nothing nothing mary rat on this we're taking a 1.00

04:59:02.840 picture that's a part of it take a picture yeah no no it's not a view of us the fuck wait can i go 1.00

04:59:12.360 back to the question i asked you earlier yeah what was your question would you sleep with a woman who 1.00

04:59:15.400 was on her period oh uh sorry you know ali wong it's very comedian female comedian yes i typically

04:59:22.280 don't you haven't no i'm not gonna say that comment but i know her she had this she has a 0.88

04:59:28.200 bit and the bit goes like this ali wong is that what you said i'm pretty sure it's ali wong she's

04:59:32.520 like she's dating the most romantic thing a guy can say to a woman is as follows if you tell

04:59:39.960 the guy that you're on your period whatever and he's not like grossed out and he's like 0.84

04:59:43.720 like well i guess we're gonna have to make a fucking mess aren't we i delivered that really 0.99

04:59:50.360 fucking bad but uh it's my preference to not have sex when she's on her period but you know sometimes 0.99

04:59:57.720 what the girl's spotting you gotta stick in there like a champ you gotta finish off full-blown though 0.99

05:00:03.080 but generally either yeah if you know she starts spotting get some blood on you gotta you gotta you 0.98

05:00:08.280 know you gotta be a trooper you gotta be a fucking team player and finish the game but 0.97

05:00:13.720 if she's like hey brian i'm on my period i'm like let's just watch a movie a zombie movie let's 0.99

05:00:20.120 just kick it let's just kick it we don't have to do anything let's order pizza and watch netflix

05:00:25.800 i don't that's not why i'm with you that's nice i kind of figured that would be the answer

05:00:32.360 oh yeah yeah yeah i'm watching lost right now it's been a minute oh i need uh okay we have 0.69

05:00:38.280 chat we have some is the audio chef dill pickles donated 69 dollars thank you the drift is dumber

05:00:45.720 than i thought i miss it when she was quiet has she seriously never heard your blm explanation

05:00:52.040 before oh he's talking about me probably not talking about me i don't know what he's referring to

05:00:57.720 felicity felicity is uh she's been getting a little more confident you know felicity over here i might

05:01:03.720 have to put her back in the back seat she's going the panels a bit too nah i appreciate the uh the

05:01:09.800 input of my my esteemed colleague felicity thank you pasty george donated 70 dollars oh he can oh

05:01:20.200 he can share it if he wants oh also i am indigenous cree he's indigenous creek can canadian what is that

05:01:27.880 wait was that pasty that said the mean one it's native america no it wasn't pasty that said no no

05:01:32.760 it was chef dill pickles who said the mean one okay wait so perfect man or perfect career y'all

05:01:41.720 but everybody said perfect man all right uh let's see here

05:01:50.200 no that one's for like a really hardcore conservative guy so can i just ask it to you 0.65

05:01:55.240 anyways uh would you rather get a bj from a trans woman or the kovid vaccine oh god that's tough

05:02:01.720 the kovid vaccine oh okay uh 0.87

05:02:09.080 a bj from a trans woman or get the kovid jab yeah i had to like i i i got the i had to i was teaching

05:02:19.720 oh it was required yeah emotional brainer really emotional damage says period days are bj days just

05:02:27.480 relive college days girls oh lord uh yeah he's really nice too

05:02:35.960 69 guys 69 tts if you want to get it in we're getting these in

05:02:40.280 quick wait hold on pasty george here are good not again i need to do i need to do a land acknowledgement

05:02:47.720 because we have pasty george in the chat warren would you like to join me in the land acknowledgement

05:02:54.200 sure okay we are hold on let me fucking google how to do a land acknowledgement chat gpt it actually 0.92

05:03:01.080 um here we're gonna do it's chumash here uh chumash land acknowledgement oh my god i can't 0.90

05:03:08.200 tell you right now uh we acknowledge that we are on the traditional lands of the chumash people who

05:03:15.160 have stewarded this region for thousands of years we honor the chumash nation past present and future

05:03:21.240 and recognize their enduring relationship with this land water and community we offer respect to the

05:03:25.960 elders and knowledge keepers of the chumash people and reaffirm our commitment this one's not it needs 1.00

05:03:32.040 to be like we acknowledge we're on stolen land yeah the original stewards you have this coding i can't

05:03:37.960 even see your screen it's like oh it's it's a uh it's a privacy yeah yeah i don't want you seeing my

05:03:44.920 all my notes you know uh oh you were supposed to read part of it yeah he couldn't though that's

05:03:51.720 all right you did good here what about this part can you uh this this one uh we're gathered today

05:03:57.800 from the ancestral lands the barbano chumash if in santa barbara area one of several bands of the

05:04:09.160 chumash nation thank you thank you warren thank you that was great um thank you thank you pasty george

05:04:18.280 wait did i did i even send his oh wait he sends in another one oh my goodness he is on fire pasty

05:04:24.680 george this man is on fire why is it not it's not popping up it's pasty george chair one boinking 0.96

05:04:30.280 pasty george donated 70 dollars chair one boinking a woman who is on her period is gross 0.96

05:04:37.320 that is like asking a man to boink bloody yikes okay i don't know about that but using the word 0.63

05:04:42.600 boink is gross yeah let me start there how old are you define i think we're all adult it gets

05:04:49.720 censored let's right oh it doesn't i think it gets no he did he did pasty george did right point

05:04:56.520 but let's he wanted to make sure it was right he might that could be a cree saying yeah we shouldn't

05:05:03.400 assume it might be his native tongue what about this though um would you guys be offended like let's say

05:05:12.600 you you just start dating a guy and he's trying to kick it with you he's trying to hang out

05:05:17.320 but he at like but it's really new maybe you've only been seeing him for a week or two you've

05:05:22.360 already hooked up with him once but he asks you are you on your period is that going to upset you

05:05:31.800 because that maybe the implication there is he's going to be like if you say yes he's going to be

05:05:35.480 like oh we can kick it another day would you be upset you know i don't think i would be upset just

05:05:44.680 because then that's kind of just showing me where their head's at not necessarily that i need to

05:05:50.040 like take them serious so yeah i agree to an extent i mean yeah they're telling you what their

05:05:57.000 expectations are in the beginning so i mean that's fine that's fair if that's not what you want to do

05:06:01.960 for sure on a first date i actually ask for their tracking app for them to send me a screenshot of

05:06:08.680 it for three months in advance you know the tracking where they've been you know that no 0.97

05:06:13.880 like their body oh the tracking app so i can plan our shit because i'm a gentleman i'm a gentleman 0.98

05:06:21.240 and i'm just i want to plan i want to get to know you i want to plan shit in advance like i want 0.92

05:06:28.600 that's kind of sweet though like bali i wouldn't go to bali if she's gonna be on yeah i don't blame you 0.79

05:06:33.160 i gotta plan that shit i just can't i have no words i just i i just guys look it's fine we 0.89

05:06:41.240 agree to disagree i think it's fair look it's you're gonna lose the girl if you ask for that 0.99

05:06:45.960 shit before the first time you're with her but i think it once you the first time you guys have 0.98

05:06:51.080 ask because you know how they got the tracking apps where it can tell like a couple months in 0.98

05:06:56.840 advance when they're gonna ovulate when they're gonna ovulate when they're gonna be you know on

05:07:01.720 their period ask for the screenshots i thought you meant like red flag run i thought you meant

05:07:09.720 run oh you could don't waste your time on the on the first day just show me the tracking but again

05:07:14.680 he's just showing you his expectations if he's doing that so i mean no matter what you're learning

05:07:18.840 something from it it's either someone you want to be with or not yeah it's just a very respectful

05:07:23.240 thing has that ever happened to anyone here no no i don't even think men know about that 0.98

05:07:29.000 shit i didn't probably not you warren get you gotta you're they got tracking apps they do and 0.98

05:07:34.840 they're good they will they will predict like three months in advance when the girl's gonna get like 1.00

05:07:39.640 her period but like if you're on the pill it's a prediction it can sometimes yeah it's not it's not

05:07:44.440 100 so what if you you plan a date like a week before she happens to get her period early like that

05:07:50.120 guy who took you this is what i do this is what i do book her a flight back home or

05:07:55.960 i leave her there the trip i leave her in bali and i shut up i did what how do you know about the

05:08:05.080 tracking apps who told you but you guys keep that secret it's just so weird it's like how do you know

05:08:10.840 that how do you because you just said to warren that not a lot of guys know they don't how do you

05:08:15.880 know he's extremely concerned about when a girl's on his period clearly so he's made i am uh a man

05:08:22.760 who has dated women before it's for a living you see that yeah warren's totally being your wingman

05:08:30.680 right yeah yeah no i got you covered don't worry no it's like a lot of conversations look you know you

05:08:38.120 just uh these are things that men know some of them some of them okay we have more chats here

05:08:44.280 brian hates brian hat's big labia donated you definitely dyed your hair and beard no this is 1.00

05:08:53.560 natural natural baby chair one is beautiful oh you don't think i'm a dumb bitch 0.99

05:09:03.000 brian hates big labia i love that not true big labia matter blm uh there it is um by the way 0.98

05:09:13.160 we have a rule if you simp on a pan list you have to send in a second it's called the simp tax 0.55

05:09:20.680 so you need to now send in a second 69 tts because you've just simped on her or you can send me a

05:09:26.760 bottle of champagne that works too there you have it we have pasty george our good friend pasty george

05:09:34.440 donated seventy dollars i believe that the land was stolen by those who were in power and not by

05:09:40.440 the everyday normal people who just wanted to settle and work to provide for their families

05:09:45.400 that was actually sweet yeah we mispronounced the chumash i thought it was chumash chumash

05:09:53.080 it's chumash chumash okay let's get back into the questionnaire we got some more questionnaire stuff

05:09:59.160 uh would you what what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband 0.96

05:10:03.960 starting with you from my experience i just i i mean around the same or over like a little bit

05:10:13.240 under is fine but i don't i don't know i would like to be able to you know book vacations and do

05:10:20.440 dinners that like meet up to work kind of where i'm at i don't know i i like like i said before i don't

05:10:26.440 want to fully financially support a man that's just me they don't have to make like more money than me

05:10:32.680 maybe just somewhere around the same range where we have the same financial goals okay what about

05:10:37.560 you that's like 30 to 40 uh k euro okay a year got it what about you um like around six figures i would

05:10:48.280 say because we live in la it's really expensive over here and also i just want to be comfortable with um

05:10:57.240 my family and we want to be able to what did you write on the it looks like a 500 000 yeah that's

05:11:06.200 the minimum well because i i was like no because i was answering the questions and then he was asking

05:11:13.000 for the papers back and i was like quick answer i don't know like a million dollars okay but it's

05:11:17.320 definitely like six figures definitely whatever is going to be more comfortable with uh our financial

05:11:22.440 situation and and just to also like be like experience life because i still haven't traveled

05:11:29.640 the world and we haven't traveled the world so that's where my mindset's at she said a million

05:11:34.680 dollars is you're you've been dating a guy for six months how much does he make uh he almost made six

05:11:41.000 figures okay have you ever dated a guy who makes six figures yeah 500 000 have you did well we broke up

05:11:49.160 uh but i was dating him what about you um i said someone who makes as much as i do or a little bit

05:11:56.520 more which is what how much do i make yeah uh between like 60 and 70k a year dope what about you

05:12:05.640 alina for me it depends on the location where we live right now you live in your area oh siberia

05:12:12.840 yeah it would be a lot less like probably like 60 like 50 000 or something even less than that

05:12:19.560 or like what is the russian currency rubies or rubles rubles yeah yeah what about you this is in

05:12:26.040 the context of marriage yeah um 100k if okay he's the sole provider and i'm stay-at-home mom got it

05:12:33.400 a family cool 150 huh how much 150 we're in santa barbara uh with her high expectations okay uh how

05:12:50.200 tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date i'm five four i think i said five

05:12:54.920 five five what about you oh you do you have centimeters yeah it's like 170 cent it's 170

05:13:01.400 centimeters so a minimum 100 you can scoot your chair in by the way yeah that'll help that'll help

05:13:07.480 out a bit okay so you said you're five eight and then the height of the good seven yeah i think and

05:13:13.000 what about you um i'm five three and i'd want to the height minimum is like six feet six feet

05:13:19.720 mm-hmm bare minimum wait hold on Casey didn't this girl earlier say some 0.97

05:13:25.880 shit about oh my gosh like weight and then oh i would date a short guy bro you wrote six 0.99

05:13:31.880 foot well that question fired back on you that's crazy yeah that's crazy all right what if he's like 1.00

05:13:40.040 5 11 he's that's fine okay she'll settle she'll settle for the 5 11 guy see what about you

05:13:47.960 uh i'm 5 6 i think i said and i said 5 8 5 9 alina i'm about 5 5 uh maybe 5 8 what about you i'm

05:13:56.680 5 5 5 5 10 is the minimum preference felicity 5 5 5 5 9 okay uh and then would you rather cross 0.94

05:14:06.200 wait is is it even worth asking oh y'all said man everybody here said man oh shit any disagreements 0.97

05:14:13.720 no no no no oh my we're all logical ladies i have a disagreement go ahead alina all right speak up 0.96

05:14:20.920 finally so why do you ask the body count that's the disagreement yeah i'm just wondering like why

05:14:29.160 yeah uh i don't know like i just think it's it's kind of like a private detail that if somebody chooses

05:14:38.440 not to share it it then makes them look bad like the body count is too high or like why is she 0.98

05:14:44.040 deciding not to share it like it makes them look kind of sketchy so you're kind of like pushed into

05:14:49.160 saying it but then like a such a private intimate detail of you is out on the internet so it's like

05:14:54.520 it's kind of a trap if i knew you were gonna say yours i wouldn't have said mine to be honest i think

05:14:59.960 a lot of people just opt not to answer it but you're saying like people are making assumptions if

05:15:05.240 the person doesn't answer it yeah like it makes them it makes them look like it's high when it should

05:15:11.480 just be like something like if it's a private detail you don't have to say it then it doesn't

05:15:16.440 mean then then the woman could just answered it well she did yeah yeah i mean i tried to opt out so

05:15:24.920 but i mean initially there was into the mic if you can but it's all good um

05:15:30.840 um well i think that the a woman could say the following um it's low but i don't want to answer

05:15:39.240 so i think you have to give women some agency here like they could answer the question in such

05:15:44.040 a way without answering it without allowing people to make assumptions but i also feel like if you say

05:15:48.920 low that could be for up for interpretation somebody else is low okay it's less than five

05:15:55.880 then they're gonna think four i feel like it's damned if you do damned if you don't it doesn't

05:15:59.400 can i ask you a question um yeah what would you consider low and at what point do you consider

05:16:04.760 it high for somebody who is 30 years old just say that because i know it varies depending yeah i mean

05:16:11.240 there's kind of some differentials here but uh i would generally say

05:16:17.400 i said last time i said i answered this uh and i'm not saying that this is necessarily the ideal but i

05:16:25.000 said like what i start considering high and this is of course factoring in like say a woman who's 35

05:16:31.160 right uh i think quite clearly over 20 is a high body count some people are going to start debating

05:16:37.240 if over 10 is necessarily a high body count uh i think an easy metric would be under 10 is going to be

05:16:45.800 low depending on your age over 10 is going to be high uh if you're 18 19 and you have a body count of

05:16:52.600 nine i think a lot of people are going to say if eight at 18 uh you're going to say that that's a

05:16:58.520 high body count for example when i was 18 yeah my body count was one but now i'm like 28 years old

05:17:04.120 and obviously it's gone up from then multiply it by three and that's the real number i lost my virginity

05:17:09.800 at 17 okay and i had a boyfriend so i was at one but i think most men are going to say and i would agree

05:17:15.880 with this is that uh in terms of our own personal preferences the lower the better under five or zero

05:17:23.000 can i ask you this at what point is a man's body count considered high oh

05:17:29.960 in your opinion well wouldn't this be a female perspective i'm well i want i want to hear your

05:17:35.320 perspective personally uh i would just say the same as whatever i say for a woman is it's the same for a

05:17:41.640 man you think over 10 for a man is high uh well i said there's a bit of gray area there i'll just

05:17:48.760 say over 20 is like a high body count okay for a guy but over 10 is a high body count for a woman 1.00

05:17:56.280 no well i i did make some you retracted your statement and said over 10 so i just wanted to

05:18:02.040 unless you want to go back to over 20 then that's totally fair well i i mean uh i think when it comes

05:18:08.600 to social assessments uh women just care less about male promiscuity than the reverse so i don't know 0.93

05:18:17.320 i just feel like a lot of the men that i know 10 when i've asked them this question their range has

05:18:21.960 always been like over 50 over 30 at the minimum and then i've said say you know 10 to 15 and people

05:18:28.360 are like oh my god that's insane and i'm like you literally just told me you slept with 55 women 0.51

05:18:33.640 we are the same age and i said that i slept with 10 and i'm i don't know why do men have to die on

05:18:39.000 the titanic it's just so unfair one of the one of the perks men have to die on the titanic but we get

05:18:46.280 to be sluts that's that's the trade-off i guess i don't know strange um can you agree with me though 0.99

05:18:52.440 that that's tends to be the perspective of everyone it says yeah i don't care about 0.98

05:18:58.840 body count really warren oh wait you mean when you say you don't care about body count like you don't

05:19:03.240 care about what you're where i you don't care about put it this way are you are you tanked warren

05:19:09.080 more champagne for warren yes now i'm starting to really speak honestly but i would prefer

05:19:16.600 to be with someone who knows what they're doing if that makes sense without it being

05:19:21.560 excessive i'm not going to get with like an only fans model or something like that like you couldn't

05:19:26.520 a woman who's been in one long-term relationship and like absolutely i guess she's had a lot of sex like

05:19:31.640 to one really yeah she but her body counts one right yeah absolutely um so does that make sense

05:19:37.720 yes and no yeah honestly though like here's the thing right is as a guy if you know what you're doing 0.97

05:19:46.920 i think you can take a woman who's never had sex or had very little sex and have really good sex with her 0.80

05:19:53.000 like i don't know sex is not a complicated procedure 0.98

05:20:00.680 you know you know what i mean no it's an art an art it's crazy but like i guess is this an entailment

05:20:09.320 of your position though so would you then say well then if it is the case that i want a woman who's 0.98

05:20:15.240 more experienced it is thus desirable that she has more men like you would want her to have slept with 0.95

05:20:24.840 more men before she met you which i just sounds really untenable you know what i mean right right

05:20:33.320 no i wouldn't say that no but you want okay experience i see someone who's like oh what do i do now

05:20:41.480 that'd be kind of hot but she doesn't have to be like that if you know what i mean that's not how it 1.00

05:20:48.600 goes like you can do the work and teach her and then the next time she's gonna know what she's doing

05:20:55.160 it doesn't take like so many experiences to know what you're doing as especially as a girl yeah i'm

05:21:00.520 not disagreeing with that either and and i do think though on this conversation when it comes to

05:21:05.000 like in terms of the like the actual physical skill set when it comes to sex

05:21:14.280 like it's way harder for a man to be good in bed than it is for a woman to meet like the minimum 1.00

05:21:21.480 threshold of what is good in bed like a man has to have more skill than a woman if that makes any sense 1.00

05:21:31.880 i don't know not necessarily what do you all think like i don't know what it's like

05:21:35.880 well the the reason i said i'll i'll make my argument that women are welcome to respond is that

05:21:42.040 so just due to the differences in anatomy between men and women there's just certain like just

05:21:49.960 realistic differences so uh here's i guess here's the best way i could put it like i think a lot of men

05:21:57.960 if they are like having a sexual encounter with a woman who's a virgin who's had very like really

05:22:04.600 inexperienced sexually uh i'm pretty sure most men could take that woman and they could climax but like 0.71

05:22:13.480 i'm not sure the same can be said for the virgin with like the reverse and also here i guess here's 0.65

05:22:20.360 the here's the no you're totally fine here's the other framing is if a woman was doing literally nothing 1.00

05:22:28.280 like you just you put her in doggy style or whatever position and she just stays there without moving

05:22:36.680 most men they might they might want her to be a bit more involved but most men can bring themselves 0.99

05:22:41.960 to climax having sex with her if a man just stands there or lays there with a a boner 0.91

05:22:48.600 the there's less women who could through their own movement could make themselves climax by doing 1.00

05:22:58.440 that so it just it's easier for it's just anatomy right so that's i guess my reasoning i don't know

05:23:04.760 i'd like to see the statistic on that well look to be fair there's women who are like insanely 1.00

05:23:11.000 orgasmic and can like come super easily but like i would say that like most i think there's a majority

05:23:17.800 of men who if the woman's just like puts herself in doggy and she just is stationary and he's thrust he 0.84

05:23:24.920 can he can make himself come to like majority of men i'd say 95 99 of men can make themselves climax in

05:23:32.280 that situation if you if you as a girl just like have a dude who's just there and he's just stiff 0.99

05:23:40.040 it's way less women who can like they're throwing it back or doing whatever the fuck y'all do 1.00

05:23:44.840 who can make themselves climax i know a lot of women friends of mine who actually have an easier time 1.00

05:23:50.440 being on top because they're in control rather than just sitting there and doing nothing or i mean

05:23:55.400 i guess it's just it depends on the person right like but what he's getting at is that like men can

05:24:00.360 literally climax in any way shape or form it doesn't really matter women it takes more thought more

05:24:06.360 process yeah you have to be like in the mind i feel like women you have to be in the mindset to 1.00

05:24:10.680 want to it's all mind games for us with what whereas for men it's all like biological they're like

05:24:16.440 this is great having fun whatever but women we all get in our head and we think about a bunch of 1.00

05:24:20.840 stuff yeah but how did we get to this by the way i don't know how we got here

05:24:27.320 i really don't know warren was saying he likes a woman to know what she's doing

05:24:30.840 experience yeah oh yeah and i was just i was just saying how like i don't know i think you can

05:24:37.400 you can yeah you can mold a female who has like no experience more as 1.00

05:24:41.640 a man who has experience already knows what he wants yeah anyways we got some more chats coming

05:24:49.000 through we have pasty george guys get him in 69 tts streamlabs.com slash whatever here we go

05:24:56.360 pasty george uh-oh pasty george donated 70 dollars what kind of delusional thank you man

05:25:04.120 makes any woman think that they are worthy of a man who makes over six figures let alone a five 1.00

05:25:09.560 figure income what do you bring to the table to be worthy of all right that's for you you

05:25:14.120 respond to that figure even and like you respond to that um so i would say i would just be very

05:25:23.080 supportive of my partner and um cater to him to like what he needs basically because i was talking about

05:25:31.800 like family too but sorry then the scenario is that we have a family like that that's that that's what

05:25:39.320 my ideal man like we should be making six figures so yeah i would but what i would bring was is

05:25:46.760 definitely like i would cater to my man i'd support my man i'd nurture my man in any kind of way because

05:25:51.240 that's who i want to be and i want to i want to take care of my man that's just what he is

05:25:58.200 five hundred thousand though that's a good amount of money good amount of money

05:26:11.080 god desert joe here thank you man desert joe donated 69 dollars thank you agree or disagree

05:26:17.560 men lie about having a high account women lie about having a low account why women prefer experienced

05:26:25.080 men men men do not have the same preference and this like goes back to that american pie thing like

05:26:30.360 divide by three i the thing is though i feel like i girls maybe you tell me what you think

05:26:38.200 i think even player dudes are gonna lie well probably most of you guys don't talk about body

05:26:45.480 count right i mean this is like a podcast thing whatever but uh i think even player dudes are gonna

05:26:50.680 lie about their body count because they don't want to be perceived as a player and they think

05:26:54.920 if i tell her that i have a high body count this will actually is is gonna reduce my chances of

05:27:00.920 getting laid i hate to be that person but like if i found out that a male had a lower body count

05:27:06.680 i'd be like okay you're inexperienced that's fine that's fair and i'm gonna show you what i like

05:27:10.520 what i enjoy all of those things so i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing but is it true that

05:27:16.200 women like guys with a higher body count i think you don't have to necessarily like dictate and 1.00

05:27:22.600 like explain what you like because they've already had that experience but at the same time like if

05:27:26.840 you know what you like what does it matter how many people they've slept with in the past i 0.78

05:27:31.000 personally just don't want to be with somebody who's never been with anyone before agreed that's

05:27:34.280 just me where i'm at in my age now and experience but i also would prefer if a man has not slept with 0.98

05:27:39.880 the entire los angeles county like i don't know guys that have body counts and i just don't talk

05:27:45.640 to them anymore because i don't like that yeah that's fair i think for me i kind of just don't

05:27:50.200 ask the question because i don't want to know like what you've done in your past like that's your past

05:27:55.480 so this is a hypothesis not hypothesis this is a thought i had not well so there's body count but then

05:28:03.960 there's like a scumbag count so like a girl's body count could be low but if she dealt with like a 1.00

05:28:11.320 grimy dude that's like that's a multiplier that's like an x10 really i've heard your theory on this 0.75

05:28:18.040 and i actually do love this her body can't say her body counts one but she had she she got with um 1.00

05:28:26.440 shit who's like a scummy dude uh like the island boys oh my god with their face tats and they're all 0.99

05:28:32.680 fucked up mangled hair james franco james franco there you go uh who's like just a grimy dude 0.99

05:28:38.600 6ix9ine takashi yeah takashi 6ix9ine i'm just like that like multiplies it by like 10 that's a 10x 0.95

05:28:44.760 multiplier yeah that's worth 10 bodies yeah so if they deal with a grimy dude or like a guy

05:28:50.200 doesn't even have to be celebrity but it's like you know the dude and he's just you don't like the

05:28:54.600 dude it's that's a multiplier agreed you think the same could apply the other way around like a 0.93

05:29:00.840 grimy moment sure yeah yeah well how about this like let's say a dude slept with a prostitute 0.55

05:29:07.800 who you would probably view that like but he's only slept with one prostitute versus a guy who

05:29:12.120 like slept with i don't know like five girls right but they're not prostitutes you'd probably like you 1.00

05:29:18.200 probably put a multiplier on i mean i don't know if this is the best example just because like that

05:29:24.920 that implies other things like why would you sleep with a prostitute how about a corn star

05:29:30.440 let's use that or an only fans yeah something like that yeah or who's just like who's a

05:29:36.360 girl that girls don't even like bonnie blue but she's like but she's also an only fans girl so 1.00

05:29:42.440 let's just like okay i don't know uh who's like who's a girl that women don't like 1.00

05:29:48.520 i feel like women just don't necessarily hate women unless they like yeah who's a girl what's 1.00

05:29:55.400 her name blake lively she's with ryan reynolds i mean we don't necessarily like her but like she's

05:30:01.480 kind of mia khalifa okay how about this she's been amanda binds oh she's that don't do her like 1.00

05:30:11.240 okay but she's wrong leave amanda binds out oh no shit who's just go with the only fans are like 0.98

05:30:18.600 a corn star like no woman is going to enjoy that yo chat who's a who's a grimy woman who's not like 1.00

05:30:25.480 a sex worker of f girl um who's not maybe like a like a rapper like sexy red or something like that 0.69

05:30:32.600 okay yeah but i feel like sexy red has a sex appeal does she okay but it's still at the same time 1.00

05:30:38.760 same grimy kamala harris some people in the chat paris hilton i love her britney spears she's married

05:30:45.800 now britney's oh yo crucible raid yo thank you thank you uh for that appreciate it andrew thank

05:30:51.720 you for the raid man uh thank you welcome crucible crew we're talking about the body count multiplier

05:31:00.840 if a girl's been with a grimy dude that like multiple that's a body count multiplier like she slept

05:31:06.040 with one guy but it's some um takashi 69 not good not good welcome welcome guys to the chat appreciate

05:31:14.680 appreciate it appreciate it okay uh wait where were we moving on oh we got more chats i could agree with

05:31:19.320 like sexy red though like what man would actually like wouldn't that be like a 10 multiplier yes okay 0.88

05:31:25.960 i'm sorry i don't listen to rap who the fuck is that guy i don't listen to okay how about nikki 0.97

05:31:29.880 minaj you have to know who nikki minaj is i mean i wouldn't like her for other reasons like any type 0.97

05:31:36.760 of trashy woman can be really attractive to a lot of men still but um that would still be like a body 1.00

05:31:43.160 count multiplier or whatever like you said uh that that would make it like kind of more icky i guess 0.92

05:31:49.880 to think about sorry go ahead oh no i was just saying like if a guy has been with a few girls

05:31:57.320 and i look at them and they're like well put together and they look really nice and i just

05:32:01.320 know that they're like they hold themselves to a standard that almost makes him like a little

05:32:06.280 bit more attractive because i know that he could pull that but like if you found out that he oh sorry

05:32:10.520 go ahead but if you found out that he slept with like cardi b nikki minaj sexy red you'd be a little

05:32:14.840 bit disappointed yes yes okay what if he just had a redemption arc i don't care nasty she'd still be 1.00

05:32:22.280 like ew oh it is yeah redemption arc from what like he went through a really bad breakup or something 0.99

05:32:27.880 or he got cheated on what's like what's what's your definition yeah in college he was stupid 0.97

05:32:36.520 oh well that's still gross to me like i would still choose to reject that person because like what 0.99

05:32:43.160 are you saying like they were promiscuous in college or something yeah like yeah i just

05:32:47.160 wouldn't like that i'm sure you could say the same about women though no yeah like if we reverse that 1.00

05:32:52.360 question warren said earlier that he didn't have a problem with a girl going through like a college

05:32:55.800 phase he's like everybody kind of does those sorts of things yeah i'm just a bit more i believe in

05:33:00.360 redemption arcs a bit more okay flawed individuals i don't but i don't want to put the wrong

05:33:07.640 redemption arc is great but i can still think it's nasty and not want to date for that reason

05:33:11.960 because it's your personal preference that's good for him like i'm sure he can find someone who would

05:33:15.800 be fine with that like a lot of women would not care if her guy slept with sexy red or cardi b or 1.00

05:33:20.920 something so we've got some more chats coming through we'll let those we have reap what you

05:33:26.520 sow thank you man appreciate it reap what you so donated 69 dollars men and women are different

05:33:34.280 women react to a 30 year old virgin male the same way a man reacts to a 25 year old woman with 30 bodies 0.93

05:33:42.280 woman want a wanted man men want virtuous women 1.00

05:33:48.680 fair taxes yeah i think there's something it is what it is we got throat cancer

05:33:56.760 warren looks like hell from death note happy birthday w warren

05:34:01.160 you that was like i appreciate it oh man we got he's sloshed right now yeah because they just had

05:34:06.440 a backhanded comment and then said something nice uh what i don't know what l from death note is that

05:34:13.320 death note it's an anime no i know but who's l he's like the black hair detective see the main guy the

05:34:19.080 protagonist i don't know we've got pasty george here with another one pasty george donated 70

05:34:25.400 women who do not want to reveal their body count are worried about being shamed which is a normal 0.98

05:34:31.000 human response my body count is four and on the attractiveness scale of one to ten i am a four

05:34:38.040 makes sense are there like reservations in canada for for the native americans up there

05:34:46.360 or they call it first nation people right i wonder if it goes down on like reservations

05:34:53.240 like are you talking like are there night clubs on the reservation like could i go

05:35:00.280 am i allowed to am i yeah you can go another yeah you can go onto a reservation as like a normal

05:35:05.800 like can i kick it i want to kick it with some native americans yeah you could do that like can you if

05:35:11.480 there's any native americans watching can you guys so i want to i want to party with you well so back

05:35:17.400 in nebraska again we're going smoke but that's they they build like casinos and stuff on reservation

05:35:23.000 land so they can make money and so like any normal everyday human can go on to the go into the casino

05:35:28.680 and it's still on reservation land and then yeah you can go get with your caucasians if you want to

05:35:33.560 okay any native americans hit me up we're gonna party at the casino yeah vector donated 70

05:35:45.080 share one your ex could just stick to women named liana he can just rededicate his tattoo every time

05:35:52.440 i hope that the pool of liana's is big wish him luck thank you man could i have you guys just scoot

05:36:00.200 into the table and maybe just scoot that way just a tad all right perfect we're gonna fortunately i 0.95

05:36:03.880 don't think liana is the most popular name maybe it would have been better if my name was like sarah

05:36:11.720 uh makeup is not what you kind of look like young chloe kardashian really thank you i appreciate

05:36:17.480 that thanks before after felicity you kind of look like young

05:36:21.240 young brian i've got the weirdest ones in female version i need to think of a roast for that one 1.00

05:36:30.840 i got furry the other day that one was weird uh wrong for uh chris kristin my real name is crystal oh

05:36:38.280 crystal wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count or virgin women casey you also

05:36:46.040 circled that one okay for the wait he went in the bathroom oh sorry he'll be fine don't worry no he's 0.93

05:37:04.920 good he's fine don't even trip god damn he left okay uh why do you think it's wrong for high body 0.98

05:37:12.520 count men to prefer to date low body count virgin women for you for you i look at this bit of a 0.97

05:37:20.520 like a spiritual aspect i think a virgin woman is worth a lot and yeah i think yeah yeah uh and and

05:37:30.360 man who already has so many bodies and is just looking for somebody who is very young and is a virgin 1.00

05:37:37.400 i think there's some type of energy exchange going on that is kind of more evil

05:37:44.360 what what sounds weird but i believe that um it's evil did you say evil or what did you say if he's

05:37:51.960 constantly looking for only virgin girls and not planning on staying with her and

05:37:58.280 having a relationship well i mean let's be charitable here with the example okay

05:38:01.960 he's interested in pursuing a long-term relationship with her and it's fine okay

05:38:07.320 that's fine um so can you repeat the question because yeah the statement is wrong for high

05:38:14.120 body count men to prefer to date low body count slash virgin women to which you uh agreed to the 0.89

05:38:19.400 statement because i read that comment i forgot who said it um but how like women kind of want more 1.00

05:38:27.480 experienced men and then they said just as how like men would like women with low body count or a

05:38:34.440 virgin um i would just say i retract my answer so thank you because i see i see i see the point

05:38:44.600 where it's like yeah like men kind of or women contemplate saying like yeah like it's okay for men

05:38:50.440 to have like a higher body count because they are like experienced um but then like we we shame the

05:38:57.000 men for wanting younger women or who are virgins so yeah okay i'll take it back uh you said that

05:39:06.360 the statement is women are the primary victims of war not men to which you agree why is that did it

05:39:12.920 say primary victim yeah women are the primary victims of war not men you you agree with that statement 0.98

05:39:19.160 uh when it says primary no then i read it oh okay so women are not the primary victims of war they are 1.00

05:39:25.800 they are victims but who are the primary victims the men who died okay all right well that's it for

05:39:31.320 the questionnaire um we will let some more chats come through guys if you have a message oh my god

05:39:40.920 oh my goodness six foot three legend wait what does the dumpy clap when you walk uh

05:39:48.280 uh he's referring to my uh on occasion sometimes i have heard a clap there's been occasional clapping

05:39:57.400 um felicity recorded at once very rude of her she just rambling gambler thank you 0.93

05:40:03.080 rambling gambler donated seventy dollars i partook in what the red light district is known for in amsterdam

05:40:09.240 17 years ago just because when in rome situation does that rule me out automatically note it's regulated and

05:40:17.480 strict rules well i can't uh leave that to the women so okay pasty george here or no sorry it's

05:40:24.200 rambling gambler my bad oh my god almost slandered our good canadian our good canadian friend pasty

05:40:31.400 george it was rambling gambler it was the i'm a little tipsy you know uh would you date a guy who

05:40:39.080 in his past slept with 0.99

05:40:44.760 prostitute prostitutes in amsterdam in the red light in the red light district that's high traffic was 1.00

05:40:51.720 it one or was it multiple that's high traffic pussy you know that's not just was it one though you know 1.00

05:40:58.200 yeah it tells a lot about his uh personality

05:41:01.320 but yeah it depends on the who he is right now in the moment yeah yeah 0.99

05:41:08.680 okay show of hands would you date a guy who has slept with a prostitute show of hands 1.00

05:41:15.320 maybe maybe i don't believe maybe i would say no no felicity's yes no it depends

05:41:21.000 what you would what does it depend maybe what would depend he would have to have a lot of other

05:41:28.520 redeeming qualities like i i don't even like a man who travels like if he's even been to amsterdam

05:41:35.000 i probably wouldn't even like i like a man who stays home and he doesn't even know what the red light

05:41:40.280 district is like he doesn't even know about all that lifestyle that's my type she wants a man 1.00

05:41:46.280 do you are you the do you wear the pants in your relationship no absolutely not okay all right if

05:41:54.040 you i just don't like a man who's into that lifestyle that doesn't mean i'm like dominating

05:41:59.960 him it just means he doesn't like that lifestyle and he never has that's what i prefer

05:42:06.920 what about you felicity what would uh it depends on how long it's been who he is how many times

05:42:14.920 whatever but like i would say no as just like a simple answer rock and roll okay we got pasty george

05:42:23.640 here pasty george donated 70 dollars yes there are reservations in canada however while most are

05:42:32.440 welcoming and like caucasian people some do not my reserve is one of the many that welcomes caucasian

05:42:39.240 people no scalping lol that's where you want to go is that a thing are they still scalp doing scalping 0.96

05:42:45.080 people and that's like some wild west shit yo uh paste by the way was canada part of the wild west 0.92

05:42:53.080 sort of like vancouver or some i don't know anyways whatever or is that like based 0.89

05:43:00.280 for donated 69 the dakota territory warren happy birthday but on behalf of the whole chat can you 0.99

05:43:06.120 speak into the damn mic for fuck's sake tail adrift did you get rid of your car skunk smell yet 0.99

05:43:13.320 my advice try closing your legs what's that oh wow oh you're gonna drink it 1.00

05:43:21.080 oh i'm good i yeah you want it here you want me to pour in yours sure oh 1.00

05:43:24.840 shit i'm just going to the hotel shit there you go warren warren's gonna be uh are you ubering 0.98

05:43:30.440 i've been up for get this man warren's going hard boys he's he good guy all right east coast time 0.99

05:43:37.800 it's uh it's late um yeah we're gonna one o'clock it's east coast time oh i thought you meant right

05:43:43.480 now i was like what no it's only 10 50 here we have hot cheese soup hot cheese soup donated 69

05:43:51.320 dollars did my ears deceive me did bricks and just admit he has the clap chair one has that wingardium

05:43:59.240 labiosa oh oh bro what no is the the the the it was asking does the dumpy clap when you walk

05:44:11.000 so no i don't have the clap i have the video

05:44:14.440 no i get wingard yeah i get it maybe you i need to pull it up because chair one's not even here

05:44:23.320 though no i get it she's gonna have to listen to it we'll pull that back up okay um oh we're gonna

05:44:29.400 do the bow video we're gonna get that pulled up in just a moment but i'm gonna wait until everybody's

05:44:33.880 here for that uh any final thoughts from any of the panelists like any topics you guys want to hit on

05:44:39.480 we're probably going to wind down pretty soon you know do a few more things to get through but 0.95

05:44:44.040 uh alina what you got for me oh wait what was the question god damn bro stop looking at topics 0.99

05:44:50.120 alina's just looking at herself in the in the i was in the monitor the whole time she's like god damn 0.99

05:44:55.400 i look good in this blue dress or whatever the i'd like warren to bring up a topic that we can all

05:45:00.760 discuss yeah can we yeah let's have warren let's have we need more to you know whatever you want

05:45:06.600 toxic masculinity you wanted to talk on that or did we already kind of hit that we hit that we hit

05:45:11.960 whoa pause wait what let's see what's toxic masculinity you wanted to touch on that 0.54

05:45:23.800 you want to talk about trans stuff we can talk you want to talk about that

05:45:27.880 sure jk rowling anybody would anybody here uh date a guy who reads harry potter 0.89

05:45:34.440 yeah yeah okay i don't know that was a dumb question um does anybody think jk rowling is 0.53

05:45:42.120 transphobic i don't know what she said that i've heard it but i don't know what she said like i don't 0.58

05:45:48.120 know the evidence okay to support that claim all right i'm not aware of the situation how about we just

05:45:55.000 do an open honest question round yeah i will strive to answer questions honestly if anyone

05:46:02.760 wants to ask me how about you ask us questions okay i think that's better for you go ahead alina so

05:46:09.880 if a girl is a virgin right would you would you not like that would you be like oh no i i wish you had 0.98

05:46:16.200 more experience i wouldn't be opposed to that at all i would say that would be very admirable but

05:46:22.440 when you said like uh you prefer a woman to know what she's doing what do you really mean by that

05:46:27.880 someone who has an adventurous spirit i'm i'm speaking very frankly here which i probably shouldn't

05:46:33.080 be doing on the internet about something like this i think everyone wants to in their love life have fun

05:46:40.280 i think play is essential to a healthy relationship someone who can embody that spirit of

05:46:49.960 playing adventure i would encourage you to be open to broadening horizons with travel like if your

05:46:58.680 man wants to be like let's go to amsterdam we don't have to go to the red light yeah that would be great

05:47:04.600 if that's something that he wanted to do with me i would really really enjoy that because i'm also like

05:47:09.000 i'm a very adventurous person and i also like there's a difference between me and my man where

05:47:14.200 he's more like consistent and stable like not stable like mentally but he likes more stability in his life

05:47:20.840 and i like more like um to do more spontaneous things a lot of the time so it's just about finding

05:47:27.000 that balance but when it comes to like bedroom stuff like um you if you love somebody you can figure out

05:47:33.960 what you like together and that doesn't require like experience you know i think it's true it's

05:47:40.120 valid i think spontaneity is a good way of articulating that i agree with you good question

05:47:48.840 anybody else warren what do you got for us you've got to have something

05:47:53.880 what was your goal for coming here oh i was asked why'd you come um i'm just open to experiences

05:48:06.200 open-minded i'd actually never seen the podcast before obviously when i was asked to do it i did

05:48:11.000 a little bit of deep dive and i love a good debate i'm like i have opinions on things as does everyone

05:48:16.120 else and and i like to actually be open-minded and hear other things that change my mind on different

05:48:21.720 outtakes as well cool change anything um i would say so i think yeah i just think that everyone's

05:48:31.000 entitled to their own opinion and it was interesting to hear about i mean it didn't necessarily change my

05:48:37.400 mind but it's interesting to hear how much a man would prefer a woman to not necessarily have career 0.54

05:48:44.040 goals and would rather just have the goals of being a mother which i think is great but i think

05:48:48.600 yeah i don't know i always thought that maybe a man would prefer a woman with career goals as well

05:48:54.040 some ambitions other than just being a mother doing maybe both or yeah i don't know it's been

05:49:01.240 it's been great to hear everyone's opinions i would encourage everybody keep you're very

05:49:06.120 fortunate if you do find a man who can afford that lifestyle many people

05:49:10.680 act like it's expected and it's it is a privilege i was yeah i was fully raised to have my own career

05:49:19.800 and my own money and to never ever rely on a man to take care of me to just be a mother so that's why

05:49:27.400 i'm very career driven i always have been very happy with where i'm at um in my career instead you rely

05:49:33.640 on your employer no i mean i have goals of you know taking this into my own business eventually

05:49:39.960 as well careers start somewhere and they hope to grow i have goals out like in my career i still

05:49:45.400 think that there's higher places but ultimately you're reliant then on an economic system to

05:49:51.080 support you in one way or the other i just want to make my own money and be successful in my own way

05:49:55.880 and i don't want to have to rely on a man to do that because if things went south in a relationship i

05:49:59.960 don't want to feel like i'm high and dry what okay but what if things went wrong in your career

05:50:05.560 what if things went wrong in the economy there was a recession you know i can still be a mom but this

05:50:12.760 idea that it's like oh my god these that that women who are in these uh relationships where they're 1.00

05:50:19.080 being fully provided for by a guy who's a high earner that there's like this sort of existential sorry

05:50:24.760 not uh i'm drunk here that there's this like sort of vague risk on the horizon is just i don't know

05:50:34.840 i don't say i look at it as a risk but i just personally don't feel like i i'm not the type to

05:50:41.240 jump into a relationship and hope that i'll be financially um taken care of i would rather just

05:50:46.520 know that i got myself in case anything happens like not i'm not banking on the downfall long term i just

05:50:51.400 i don't know i feel yeah that's just me i just feel comfortable and well to be fair though every

05:50:56.920 single one of you here said you'd pick the perfect man over the perfect career so i personally love

05:51:03.000 my career so all i'm really looking for now is a great relationship but i yeah wait just to be clear

05:51:08.440 though i think the conversation earlier when i asked uh you're dating a guy who's a really high

05:51:13.880 earner he wants to get married to you and he says uh i want you to not work anymore you said yes

05:51:19.560 you would stop working is that correct for the first five years if it meant as like if he doesn't

05:51:23.800 want me if he just doesn't want me to work in general because he wants me to provide for him

05:51:28.200 i don't think i i think i'm against that but if he wants me to stop working to provide for our

05:51:31.960 children by that um um then that's a different story because i do want to be a mom and i do want

05:51:38.040 to be able to be like to have that experience as well so i totally understand the staying home being

05:51:43.400 the mother and i would love to be like the soccer mom the dance mom and like do all those experiences

05:51:48.280 with the kids absolutely and it'd be fantastic if a man could support me but i do want the

05:51:53.480 opportunity to potentially go back to something that i'm passionate about down the road okay alina

05:51:58.440 did you have another question uh no i was just going to add on uh what um liana was saying um i think

05:52:06.280 the reason part of the reason why men don't find it as attractive when a woman has uh ambitious career

05:52:11.800 goals is because when women reach a successful point in their career they usually think about 1.00

05:52:18.120 how can they secure something for themselves like how can they build security for themselves and how

05:52:22.840 can they not rely on a man in the future but um when men reach a successful point in their career

05:52:30.200 they think about how can i provide for someone else um instead of focusing it on themselves so and i was

05:52:37.000 raised the same way as you like i was raised to focus on like myself and securing um a stability

05:52:43.880 for myself as well but i think the reason why men don't really find that as attractive as women do 0.98

05:52:49.480 is because women's intentions are usually different when with their career ambitions than a man that's fair 1.00

05:52:59.320 all right we have uh two more chats here or well this is i'm going to replay it because it was

05:53:03.720 directed at you kind of donated sixty maybe i didn't need to do this d.i.d my ears deceive me d.i.d

05:53:10.200 bricks and just admit he has the clap chair one has that wingardium labor outside

05:53:17.640 okay i don't know it's crazy i don't know uh we have pasty george here thank you hot cheese soup

05:53:23.720 thank you for that message appreciate it hot cheese soup and then pasty george thank you thank you

05:53:29.560 pasty george donated seventy dollars no canada wasn't like the wild west in the past treaties

05:53:36.840 were used more to ensure the safety of settlers and trade however the federal government didn't

05:53:42.840 honor most of those treaties pasty george i want you as a first nations cree bestow upon me a

05:53:53.880 uh give me a name like uh am i what am i white foot i don't know or i don't know give me a give me

05:54:02.760 like a my native american name you know first nations name beaver face the first i was about to say

05:54:09.400 something beaver face yeah i don't know give me a like a 0.81

05:54:13.080 uh large butt i don't know something well i don't know uh aren't you from france or something 0.95

05:54:22.680 yeah your name's got you got to have a french name it's got to be like 0.95

05:54:27.800 jean baptiste or something you know aren't you from russia shouldn't you be like

05:54:32.360 svetlana or something i have a russian name alina yeah oh okay are you you're from russia yeah

05:54:39.640 yeah oh you speak russian yes let's hear it yeah a bit more

05:54:45.880 oh my god who the hell

05:54:59.800 we're gonna do guys 69 tts if you want to get one in uh we're gonna play the bow video this is so this

05:55:05.160 is a video i took of my ex-girlfriend i want to get the panel's uh reaction to this so guys this is uh

05:55:11.240 this is my expectation i was talking a bit earlier about what i kind of like in a relationship so this

05:55:16.840 is a video i took of my now uh ex-girlfriend but she was my girlfriend at the time unfortunately she's um

05:55:23.560 um she is no longer with us i'm sorry uh yeah moment of silence

05:55:33.480 she's still alive oh my god she doesn't live in the uh california okay uh go ahead play that 0.97

05:55:39.880 shit watch the bow boom do you see oh my goodness the bow huge and then uh i this i got home it was a 0.99

05:55:48.120 late you know long day at the studio you know took my shirt off and uh she's got dinner dinner for me 0.98

05:55:57.000 ready to go ready to go gets me a beer opens it for me cracks it open cracks open a cold one

05:56:06.680 stirs my noodles she didn't do it fast enough though so i had to scold her 1.00

05:56:11.000 and she had those tomatoes and get ready to play one more time just the bow portion 0.99

05:56:15.960 all right this is this is the most important boom you see the deep the depth of the bow uh this is my

05:56:22.360 expectation first but first you know second date i'll allow it i want the the girl i think a girl 0.99

05:56:29.320 should bow to me when she's greeting me would you bow for the perfect man coming around the table

05:56:35.720 well i wouldn't bow for somebody who's not going to go down on me so i guess i could start there

05:56:43.880 speaking of

05:56:50.120 your name shall be beaver muncher beaver muncher okay well i wish he's not clearly

05:56:56.360 uh but thank you very much uh okay so you but i'm not talking about me i'm saying for the perfect guy

05:57:02.520 would you would i do it would you bow i don't i don't think so i don't think i have to wouldn't

05:57:07.800 do it i mean i if he absolutely i don't know he absolutely needs me a condition of you being with

05:57:13.800 him is you guys i don't think i could personally do that with a straight face

05:57:19.560 i just feel like i'd be laughing the whole time okay i don't know but would you do it when you do it

05:57:24.120 that i would do it in laughter sorry i would do it like in laughter i don't know i need like a sign

05:57:30.360 everywhere that just says speak sorry like um what about you would you i wouldn't even know what

05:57:34.920 the answer to this the perfect guy i have the perfect guy okay so if he asked you to bow if he asked

05:57:43.960 me to bow yeah yeah yeah every day every day when he walks in the door i need to bow to him yeah

05:57:50.520 yeah once a day if it gives him so much joy i would do it yes it makes him happy makes him happy

05:57:56.120 yes then i would give it a shot when you go back to amsterdam would you bow for the perfect perfect

05:58:01.400 man yeah if he's making his six figures if he's making five hundred thousand dollars a year

05:58:06.520 she'll go for him what about you yeah yeah helena hell yeah i love that she loves it have you done

05:58:12.840 the ball to your for your boyfriend we've never discussed it but if he likes that i would love

05:58:17.800 that didn't i tell you last time on the show i told you to do it i told you to try no oh maybe

05:58:23.400 i have yet to try but i will do it she'll give the shot what about you no question absolutely

05:58:28.680 absolutely based based bait based okay uh you yeah am i weird for saying that i think this is funny

05:58:39.560 am i missing the whole thing i think it's funny wait you would you would bow or would you ask

05:58:44.200 i'm kidding i don't know would you be cool would you want a woman to to do that or no 0.82

05:58:49.800 really okay okay i mean for the i've even said do you well i've even said for for the perfect woman

05:59:00.760 i even i would bow oh i would do the

05:59:04.680 into the mic yeah i mean if if i if it really meant i think that's what they were saying it's

05:59:13.240 like if it really meant something but it doesn't really mean much to me so but like the non-perfect

05:59:18.120 woman that's what i meant by play oh sorry that's what i meant by play okay you know people i do want

05:59:25.240 a girl to bow though like i do and i i i i've received the bow would you bow to a woman i just answered that

05:59:34.360 oh yeah if she's the perfect one you would that would be yeah sure why not it's like a totally

05:59:38.680 benign yeah so you're both gonna be bowing to each other like you're about to sure yeah yeah that's

05:59:44.920 fine sure but like it's kind of cringe like a girl who i'm just kind of like settling for you know i'm 0.95

05:59:50.440 just like ah all right nah i'm not good about her the mansion really to be doing that shit anyways 0.92

05:59:57.960 that's what i'm saying like you're both gonna she's your perfect girl that means she's bowing for you 0.82

06:00:02.440 yeah so you're also going to be bowing to her like you're about to like duel each other or

06:00:06.200 something square up well the the conditional here is in order to get the perfect girl you just have to

06:00:14.360 do that yeah that's super easy why not good talk um but also like i'm kind of being in my mind i think

06:00:23.960 the perfect woman is like a trillionaire so i'm like doing this kind of thing where it's like

06:00:29.640 like of course she'd be wearing the pants though no she wouldn't no no she wouldn't because i think

06:00:35.720 i think the woman can be the breadwinner and you can still be like in that leadership position but 0.98

06:00:43.880 that's the thing you got to navigate how do you reconcile that brian what do you mean how do you

06:00:49.000 reconcile one person being the breadwinner yet not being able to be the leader of the household

06:00:55.160 well i'm saying that the the things that make a man a leader it doesn't like i'm i'm fine and i

06:01:03.880 advocate for men being the providers but what i'm saying is a woman could be the breadwinner and the

06:01:09.880 man like logically it makes sense to me he could still be the leader couldn't she argue though i pay

06:01:15.080 the bills i'm the one that supports she could i'm the leader she could make that argument but she could

06:01:20.920 also recognize that i think leadership because for example you could also acknowledge that there are 0.97

06:01:26.600 women who are stay-at-home moms and they have provider husbands and they fucking run those 1.00

06:01:32.520 relationships so like the opposite if the opposite is true where you have women who are just like 0.99

06:01:39.560 who who are dating men who are the breadwinners and they're staying at home but they fucking run those 0.89

06:01:44.680 relationships i think the reverse could clearly be the case too and it would be even i think it's even 0.72

06:01:51.640 it makes more sense to me even if it's the case that there are women who are stay-at-home mothers but

06:01:57.400 their husband's the the breadwinner but the women are wearing the pants it would make even more sense 1.00

06:02:02.280 if the woman was the breadwinner and the guy was let's say he's working but he's not the breadwinner

06:02:07.320 that he can still wear the pants in the relationship how would she be running the relationship as a 0.94

06:02:12.680 stay-at-home you don't think that there's like ultra like uh what's the word i didn't say that

06:02:18.520 i'm just asking you oh how i'm just wondering how do you how does that dynamic work if she's 1.00

06:02:24.120 the it would be her home dominating the relationship it would be her 0.95

06:02:28.760 dominant and domineering personality okay so it's based on personality then

06:02:33.160 yeah i suppose yeah okay i'm just trying to well you would agree with me that there are men who are

06:02:41.400 providers that aren't leaders i would say

06:02:48.680 what do you mean men that don't provide but are leaders no you would agree with me that there are

06:02:53.800 men who are capable of providing and they would be uh breadwinners in their specific relationships

06:03:00.360 but they lack the requisite masculine traits or leadership traits uh to make them a leader in 0.87

06:03:07.960 said relationship

06:03:12.520 what what kind of am i missing something what kind of traits like

06:03:17.880 you think just because a guy makes a lot of money that that means he's

06:03:20.920 oh do you mean like not not having that domineering uh

06:03:23.960 uh touch to him i wouldn't even use the term domineering necessarily

06:03:28.440 i don't think a leader need be domineering necessarily they could be but they don't have to be

06:03:37.320 you do you want to you just i think i'm lost no i think i'm lost now what i mean you were asking the

06:03:42.920 question

06:03:45.720 no i mean that second question that you threw at me confused me but overall your point is that you know

06:03:51.400 uh a man doesn't a woman could be the breadwinner or the person being the breadwinner doesn't have

06:03:56.520 to have doesn't have to be the leader it depends on the qualities of the person here's what i'm

06:04:00.840 saying here's what i'm saying it's logically possible that i could date a woman who's a 0.99

06:04:05.080 billionaire ergo she out earns me but she would still look to me to lead the relationship okay 1.00

06:04:10.760 yeah yeah that makes sense yeah yeah it's like i would take certain levels of initiative i would

06:04:16.680 have final decision making power okay and within the relationship

06:04:23.720 that's just no it's just it's just interesting to me because i mean the way i was raised i'm just

06:04:27.000 saying like the way i was raised the the breadwinner who is my dad the bread the breadwinner is the one

06:04:31.960 that makes all the the final decisions the final say that's just i think i was just asking you from

06:04:37.400 you know differing from my personal experience is your are your parents still together yes does your

06:04:42.200 mom work at all or is she just she was she was a stay-at-home mom when my siblings were when you're 0.60

06:04:47.640 were younger when i was younger oh but all the kids are out of the house now right but she even 0.92

06:04:51.480 worked when we were in school when i was still young you know after we got past that but do you think

06:04:57.000 that there would be an inversion if say by chance your mother became the primary breadwinner say i

06:05:03.080 don't know whatever whatever the circumstances are that would enable her to become the breadwinner do

06:05:08.120 you think that would then instantly create an inversion of the roles within the relationship

06:05:15.560 no because my dad has that that personality that leadership personality yeah so but i also think

06:05:22.120 he wouldn't let my mother be the sole provider i think it's it's in his personality it's just in him

06:05:28.360 like he just he needs to be the provider in all those ways including financially speaking okay but you

06:05:34.840 would agree like maybe i don't know if this is the best best example but like let's say your mom

06:05:39.160 bought a lottery ticket and she like hit the jackpot for 30 million dollars you would agree and then 1.00

06:05:44.360 they both like retire or whatever you would agree that this would not be in this would not create an

06:05:49.320 inversion of the uh the roles in the relationship right yeah sure i can agree with you on right so in this

06:05:57.080 case i think you can make the similar claim that if the woman she got some super cool promotion in her 1.00

06:06:03.800 job and then she then became the breadwinner this would not create an inversion in the existing

06:06:09.320 relationship dynamics sure yeah so in this case at least as it relates to the scenario i presented

06:06:18.280 uh i could deal with a woman who earns more than me and i can still be the leader in the relationship 1.00

06:06:24.920 sure i i mean just my personal preference i think for me it's like you know it's a it's not ideal

06:06:31.080 for my you know for my my husband to be calling the shots and also you know not being the one to

06:06:36.760 provide i like just for me that's unideal but i just wanted to pick your brain and just

06:06:41.800 oh yeah i mean how that made sense but i mean for like my personal preference you would rather stay

06:06:46.600 home i'd rather stay at home i'd rather be the mother i'd rather be the one taking care of the

06:06:50.760 household while he brings home the bread brings home yeah no that that's totally fine

06:06:54.600 i mean i was presenting this really kind of wild hypothetical scenario where

06:06:58.920 my perfect woman if i like i have to do a bow and i get the perfect woman she would be like a 1.00

06:07:04.280 trillionaire so you would only go down on a woman if she was a trillionaire uh yes those are the

06:07:10.280 circumstances i mean there i would to be fair i think that there's a lower threshold whereby a woman 0.99

06:07:16.280 could be perfect that wouldn't even necessarily have to do with she can make zero dollars and still be a 1.00

06:07:23.480 perfect woman but that would be like when i think of perfect i would maybe it should be 1.00

06:07:31.080 the bare minimum minimum threshold of what perfect is because then you can get into like

06:07:36.440 finances and others i don't know so so what's the perfect woman perfect woman excluding the 0.89

06:07:43.800 like finance like she's just a bit trillionaire and yeah by extension i then become the richest man 0.91

06:07:49.000 on the world in the world well yeah you said um not financially uh okay so like realistically

06:07:54.760 perfect realistically perfect okay like insanely submissive like a complete near complete i'll just

06:08:03.560 say complete lack of quarreling no nagging uh just like in terms of physical appearance like whatever my

06:08:11.480 perfect vision is of like peak beauty both like face body whatever giant labia can't forget that um

06:08:23.960 i'm trying to think personality wise i mean doesn't go to bars clubs i got a list i you want i have a

06:08:29.880 list you let's hear the list okay here's the list okay it's kind of exhaustive but let's i'll do it

06:08:36.680 quick uh no plastic surgery no uh minimal or no makeup um let's see where is it uh it's hard uh 0.99

06:08:55.160 you want physical traits it's a fucking list uh oh no oh zero no tattoos no tattoos virgin 0.99

06:09:01.880 god uh what what uh uh what are some good hand and arm endurance oh yeah but not like in a sexual 1.00

06:09:13.000 way like i like a girl who can like scratch my back oh and like massage me for like hours on end 1.00

06:09:20.120 so if she likes have you ever dealt with a girl girl warren you i mean my brother is why i'm

06:09:24.440 chuckling oh yeah you do but like have you ever dealt with a girl and like i don't know if you like

06:09:29.240 back scratches or back massage she'll go for five minutes and get tired i'm like that's some rookie 1.00

06:09:34.200 shit you gotta step your game up girl you gotta be i need could it be one or the other does it have 0.98

06:09:40.040 to be both because like what if a girl could just literally sit there and just scratch her back for 1.00

06:09:43.480 like a half an hour is that good enough half an hour are you kidding have you thought about hiring

06:09:47.880 like one hour a slave i don't know like a slave or no like i mean not in that sense but like

06:09:54.600 have you thought about hiring somebody who literally just does whatever you want no it's

06:09:58.440 got to be from your girl like your girl has to do that she's got to be the one to scratch her back 1.00

06:10:03.960 uh you know rub your shoulders but she's got to have the endurance in the arms and hands 1.00

06:10:08.520 she can't oh my carpal tunnel no

06:10:11.800 fucking keep going it's been three minutes oh my i'm tired oh my goodness okay what else could be 0.97

06:10:17.960 worse like the guy you know if they say the jaw thing it's just whatever okay anyways whatever uh 0.98

06:10:23.160 okay like labia guy i already said that the i you know what i need the guinness world record book

06:10:29.880 labia like i don't just need an audi i need like the biggest labia in human history like in in

06:10:37.800 living of course it's crazy how much you speak about labias for not wanting to put your face near

06:10:41.240 one i just think that's kind of crazy to me that doesn't you just like to look at it from like

06:10:46.840 the thing is he would put his face near the perfect woman who would obviously have the biggest labia 0.98

06:10:52.040 yeah and a trillion dollars i have a question actually a kind of introspective question have 0.86

06:10:56.440 you ever thought about uh if you deserve a woman like that oh i deserve yeah yeah what do you bring 0.98

06:11:02.600 to the table well i'm just describing the perfect woman here but have you ever thought about it

06:11:08.600 i think there's room i can improve in ways so like i got i could level up yeah so

06:11:15.160 do i deserve do i deserve the perfect woman 0.99

06:11:22.360 she's probably out of my league i'm not gonna like the perfect woman would be like 1.00

06:11:25.720 a 10 out of 10 like my perfect body type my perfect face uh all those other characteristics

06:11:31.960 i listed i didn't even get to the the personality stuff super submissive uh i have a moderate preference

06:11:38.920 for introverted women i mean i'll date an extroverted chick but it's like be quiet for a bit 1.00

06:11:44.760 um quiet calm soft spoken uh a little bit shy is good a little bit shy um and also like with shy

06:11:54.440 introverted people i think they once they get comfortable around you their personality actually

06:11:58.760 tends to blossom quite a bit modesty very important i don't like big egos or like super vanity diva type 0.99

06:12:05.480 shit brings me peace doesn't quarrel doesn't party doesn't drink doesn't do drugs doesn't go to 0.99

06:12:10.200 bars or clubs low body count or virgin well perfect woman virgin uh undivided i guess this would be 1.00

06:12:17.720 implied if she's a virgin maybe undivided romantic and sexual attention so basically

06:12:25.640 and well this is what i want right so i think it's implied with the perfect woman but it is the case

06:12:32.360 that when you're dating like people are dating other people and i don't want to deal with a girl 1.00

06:12:37.400 who's like even dating other dudes so i want immediately her undivided romantic attention

06:12:44.280 i don't want her to be dating other men even from the jump so initially you want like a very monogamous

06:12:49.320 relationship right off the bat yes okay yeah um from the jump i hate to say that but i feel like that's

06:12:55.400 not like a whole lot to ask but i feel like in modern day it kind of i mean that's how i feel like that's

06:13:00.040 how it was up until the last like dating apps yeah i agree like 20 years you know i don't know

06:13:09.320 what social media was like instagram 2010 i guess dating apps 2012 yeah i would agree well it's been

06:13:16.360 over it's been over a decade but definitely i feel like dating apps and like social media in general

06:13:20.360 have definitely like been the downfall of a lot of relationships where is felicity felicity are you

06:13:24.680 doing cocaine in the bathroom rude um just kidding she doesn't do that she's just on her phone 1.00

06:13:31.320 texting her ex-boyfriend so if i let me know if i have this straight you basically want a woman who 0.86

06:13:37.560 will shut up put out bow down to you and serve you that would be your perfect woman hold on minus 1.00

06:13:44.680 somebody who will shut up put out bow down to you and serve you i think saying shut up is uncharitable

06:13:50.840 framing but well i mean you said you mentioned a couple different times about how i mean you don't

06:13:55.080 want an opinionated woman you want a submissive woman you don't want somebody too extroverted 1.00

06:14:00.520 you don't want somebody who i think introverted women can be opinionated but yeah would you be okay 1.00

06:14:05.400 with an opinionated woman in what way like what when you say opinionated is she going to challenge me 1.00

06:14:11.240 on every you don't want to be challenged on anything ever uh no not really i mean i suppose if i'm genuinely

06:14:17.240 wrong on something sure but like i don't want a woman who just nags me and like is a fault finder 1.00

06:14:23.400 no i don't and a lot of women have a tendency to be fault finders and nag you over like stupid 1.00

06:14:28.280 shit so it's like i think nagging i'll tell you this i'd rather a woman air more on the side of 1.00

06:14:36.280 like letting shit slide than being like uh what's the term there's like uh overbearing and like 0.99

06:14:44.760 constantly like fault finding well i understand that but i think fault finding and nagging is 0.88

06:14:51.720 very different from being opinionated or challenging like i think it's could be fun i mean you you're

06:14:56.680 obviously somebody who likes to debate topics would you want to debate with my girlfriend oh you would 1.00

06:15:00.120 never want to debate a topic with you you would never want to have opposing views and ever want to

06:15:03.480 like debate that i feel like that i wouldn't want no i wouldn't want to like debate or argue with my

06:15:10.520 girlfriend even if it's like a fun topic it's like already his job so it's like oh yeah that's fair

06:15:15.880 okay that makes sense like you want to get away i mean i would hope that there's like 99 alignment

06:15:21.560 on most things with the person i like in terms of values and stuff i seek to have shared values and

06:15:29.720 alignment there okay so like i'm not gonna like i wouldn't date like a super feminist liberal chick

06:15:34.440 who's like believe like is all cool with like immigration like unfettered immigration and i'm 0.98

06:15:40.280 gonna have like a debate with her about like ice and shit oh my god it's so oh my god what they're 0.87

06:15:45.000 doing is so wrong it's like okay i'm not gonna date you but what if you debate things that are not like 0.99

06:15:48.920 political like what like pineapple on pizza sure what's your favorite pasta she can be she can be 1.00

06:15:54.120 like fun things like if it's something that's not of importance then okay fine she's like she i don't

06:16:04.840 know if she was like i don't know she didn't i'm trying to think of an example she uh didn't like

06:16:12.920 chocolate i'm like oh you're what how do you not like chocolate you know it'd be like that but it's

06:16:17.720 i mean yeah i don't know i don't want to like i wouldn't date somebody who has like

06:16:21.640 totally divergent values or political views i feel like yeah like what is the word sorry go

06:16:29.560 on i lost the word no okay i would say it sounds like realistically at the end of the day you're

06:16:33.640 not gonna argue with someone about your like core values and like everything that you believe in

06:16:37.320 there's just no sense i mean because it's never gonna make no relationship is gonna work if you

06:16:40.600 don't agree on certain things i would want her to defer like not constantly question or challenge

06:16:46.920 me on certain things uh if she has like i'm open to hearing her input but if i'm just like

06:16:55.640 this is my decision this is how it's gonna be and if there's like because women will say oh yeah i'm

06:17:01.720 down to be submissive woman i'm down to like be submissive uh but they're not and then they're gonna be

06:17:08.600 like oh but i'm just having a conversation but they're going to literally badger you until you as the

06:17:14.920 man change your mind on the thing and it's like even if she disagrees then like i think you're you

06:17:23.640 got to defer to the man you just don't want any pushback basically it uh i mean i don't want any

06:17:30.840 pushback uh you shouldn't have to explain yourself like realistically if you're saying this is what we're

06:17:36.120 going to do and everything like that you shouldn't have to explain yourself a submissive woman should just 1.00

06:17:39.800 okay if that's what you want to do that's fine that's great whatever you tell me we need to do

06:17:43.640 then that's what we're gonna do and i and that's being a submissive oftentimes i would preemptively

06:17:47.640 offer some sort of explanation or something on the decision my next question like can she like i 0.87

06:17:52.280 don't want like this idea women will say oh yeah i'm like really cooperative and submissive and then

06:17:57.320 they will like perpetually badger you under the guise of oh but it's just a conversation but secretly

06:18:06.840 they're trying to have you overturn your position on the decision as it relates to the relationship

06:18:13.080 or whatever it is so it's like being submissive would entail uh okay just to be clear this is not

06:18:22.360 being submissive if i tell her go jump off a bridge she should rightfully tell me no like you can 1.00

06:18:30.200 disregard my leadership if i told you to jump off a bridge but if it's something like

06:18:38.680 pack your bags we're moving to la tomorrow just whatever even then though i mean it's

06:18:44.440 no but still it's submissive like if you wouldn't ask questions you wouldn't do anything it would just

06:18:48.680 be okay we're moving to la i'm gonna start packing my bags uh yeah it could be something like that or

06:18:54.280 it could just be i'm trying to think of example i'm like there's um oh you're taking if if i was

06:19:01.480 inclined to get married you're taking my last name i don't want to have a conversation about it

06:19:07.240 don't care if you dislike my last name this is how it is that's being submissive 100 that's being

06:19:14.360 submissive that's what if she wanted to have because i've asked this question on the show like

06:19:17.960 then they're actually going around the table would you take your husband's last name yeah i'd prefer to

06:19:22.520 yes yeah yes yes absolutely yes oh okay okay i feel like that's a gen like um i think it's kind

06:19:31.480 of strange like if you're going to commit to the man why not commit to taking the name too like what's

06:19:36.120 the what's the the hold up what's the problem well how does that really cool name well and how do

06:19:41.080 people feel about like hyphenated names then i have a hyphenated name and i really want to die 0.56

06:19:45.400 because of it i'm like it's the worst no it's just the worst thing people didn't take their husband's

06:19:50.360 last names until this recently i didn't know until i started doing weddings and there's a lot of

06:19:55.240 apparently i used to think it was super normal like i used to when i was a kid i used to think

06:20:00.120 like a lot of women didn't take their husband's last name but then i realized that most people don't do

06:20:05.400 that but in some um some places it is popular to uh what's the word uh hyphenate to hyphenate your name

06:20:14.120 i think i would just say this it's like i think a lot of women even progressive feminist liberal 0.96

06:20:22.680 women still look to men at least well at least for those feminist liberal progressive women perhaps 1.00

06:20:28.440 not to the same degree but they still hold men to some pretty gendered traditional expectations

06:20:35.000 and i would just say this like as women you need to make this decision right and i mean some of you get

06:20:40.840 away with actually not even adhering to this if you want a man to be a leader you have to be prepared

06:20:48.040 to be a follower like there's no way around that if you want a man who's a leader you got to be a

06:20:55.880 follower i can't lead somebody who isn't willing to follow and again if i'm again i don't have an

06:21:03.320 expectation that you're just if i tell you to jump off a building you should say no if i tell you to

06:21:09.160 prostitute yourself to make money you should say no like if but if i i don't know i'm trying to

06:21:16.920 think i'm why am i blanking on you're just not like blindly like following someone there's a reason

06:21:22.600 why you're following this person because you trust them yes you trust that they have your best interest

06:21:27.000 in mind yes yeah you if you have somebody's best interest in mind you're not going to tell them to

06:21:30.840 go jump off a cliff right yeah exactly exactly um okay we have some chats coming through guys get

06:21:36.200 them in 69 tts 69 tts we have pasty george here pasty george oh spirit name that's what it's called

06:21:45.320 oh my goodness spirit pasty george donated 70 i cannot give you your seven day you would have to

06:21:55.160 consult with an indigenous medicine man who would direct you on how to get it it usually involves a

06:22:01.080 seven day vision quest of fasting oh chat chat what is my spirit name the chat will assign it thank you

06:22:10.680 pasty george appreciate it thank you we have pasty george again george donated 70 dollars the reason why

06:22:17.480 brian doesn't want to put his face into a vague let alone lick it is because of the high threat of

06:22:22.520 herpes which is a valid concern because stats show that it is higher in western women 0.82

06:22:28.840 i did see some stats that uh women have a little more stds 1.00

06:22:36.440 they're sleeping with dirty men well i think what it is is like uh you have

06:22:44.360 like hyper super attractive men and like a majority a lot of the women are sleeping with like

06:22:51.960 that group of men and so i think that would indicate why there's like higher incidence of

06:22:58.360 i mean i want to be charitable here too i think do it to anatomical reasons i think women are more 1.00

06:23:04.520 susceptible to catching stds do you also think that women are more inclined to go get tested than men 0.99

06:23:11.640 are yeah sure i think that would be it too um we have oh my holy shit 0.98

06:23:18.760 zentians i haven't seen this guy when this is a fucking 20 if it's the same zentians 0.99

06:23:25.320 this is a fucking 2023 oh gee oh this is amazing these bobbleheads on the panel are so solipsistic 0.99

06:23:33.960 that they can't see that brian's list is exactly what what modern women demand all while they're asking do 0.99

06:23:39.880 you qualify how absolutely effing vain he's talking about you women and your standards 1.00

06:23:47.240 based based in red pills zentians dude guys hold on this guy's a fucking og let me put some respect 0.99

06:23:55.320 he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer on zentians his name this guy's an og is that the 0.96

06:24:01.160 confirm or deny is that is that the the zentians i don't know it might be somebody different i don't

06:24:07.000 know it looks it could be different um let's see here if there's anything else oh the bow video oh

06:24:11.480 how about this first date i think the woman should fold my laundry first date first date at the same 1.00

06:24:20.440 time she's she lost her mind right there she's like what the fuck i ain't doing that first date 1.00

06:24:26.440 hey let's go to dinner come how about my laundry after first time she comes over to the house 1.00

06:24:30.680 she's got to fold my laundry so you're looking for a mom why is that mom because you're did you 0.96

06:24:37.160 grow up with you you know how to fold your own i got this that's my quality this is this is wait so

06:24:41.240 hold on not on the first date do you want to provide her yes and i'll see why are you looking

06:24:47.640 for a dad oh why are you looking for you want a guy to protect you why are you looking for a dad

06:24:53.320 but would she need to do that before i don't i don't think that's a first date thing i i've definitely

06:24:59.640 like the men that i've lived with i've folded their laundry have you ever have you had a one

06:25:03.720 night stand yes very far between but i would never do his laundry not a one night stand so just to be 0.99

06:25:09.080 clear though so here's the entailment here you'll let a guy put his penis inside you like the most 0.98

06:25:15.560 intimate thing you can pretty much do right although i guess nowadays women for like people it's like 1.00

06:25:21.320 more intimate to just like hold hands and is to like fuck or whatever whatever um you'll let him do 0.99

06:25:27.000 that but you won't fold his laundry i'm not gonna go on a date with you and then go home 0.98

06:25:33.480 and fold your laundry so romantic though but you also changed your scene point you said okay like

06:25:38.280 the first time we actually hang out at your house so you could have been on multiple dates before you

06:25:41.560 go to his house so let's say three dates in yeah if the first time i'm going to his house he's asking

06:25:49.000 me to fold his laundry i would just be like that's a little bit no he doesn't here watch he doesn't ask

06:25:53.240 this is what the guy oh i just see a basket of laundry and i'm like hold on pause netflix i'm

06:25:57.320 gonna put you guys on some game let me put the men watching on some game you don't ask them okay 0.97

06:26:03.800 here's what you do oh they just walk in there and they're like where's your laundry let me fold it

06:26:06.600 well let me let me give you the answer so you take her hand you're like babe i'm gonna give you a 1.00

06:26:11.880 house tour you show her the house sell my house and then you land in the laundry room oh of course

06:26:20.440 you don't even need to say it and then the look first off just to be clear i'm a nice guy i'm a 0.96

06:26:25.720 gentleman it's in the dryer it's already dry she just has to fold the shit for the first date okay 0.97

06:26:31.160 all right let me walk it back she has to fold it i just walk in i look at her in the eyes 0.98

06:26:38.200 this is the basket of laundry i look at her i look at the basket of laundry look at her look at the 0.88

06:26:51.960 basket of laundry and then i walk out of the laundry room i'd follow you

06:26:57.720 and then it's just like they just like it's it's instinct for women it's just an instinct 1.00

06:27:07.960 they just oh you know like how uh animals just know instincts yeah it's just natural environment

06:27:18.600 i'm sorry that was a bad joke it's a bad joke so it's a joke it's a joke

06:27:24.440 but but yes she should i'm i'm actually serious though she should do my laundry 0.78

06:27:29.640 i was joking about the natural environment thing to be consistent i will agree with you that like

06:27:34.120 if i want a man to pay for me to you know provide for me to pay for me on the first date on on dates

06:27:39.000 whatever i to be consistent i will agree with you that then the only reasonable thing to ask in return

06:27:44.200 is to for the woman to also uh contribute contribute in the way that she she does showing off the 1.00

06:27:49.640 qualities of a wife however where do you do you or just in general like just as a guy 1.00

06:27:55.400 where do we draw the line at providing these qualities these these traits these wife traits 1.00

06:28:01.080 for a man without it coming off as like he he doesn't have to commit right because here's the

06:28:07.240 here's the fear that i have is that i will be so i will be so good to him or i would be so good to

06:28:12.120 um my man let's say hypothetical man and he just thinks you know he has me he has me locked in but

06:28:22.040 he won't commit to me right how do i not give too much of myself away before getting you know getting

06:28:27.160 your ring being being committed sure i mean i suppose it is true that uh you could find yourself

06:28:32.680 in the situation where uh you're sort of being taken advantage of right like you're doing all these

06:28:38.360 things why would he commit but my understanding is you said you're orthodox christian okay so i

06:28:45.480 assume you're waiting until marriage to have sex okay i mean that would be the thing that you give to

06:28:52.200 him once you're married but everything else you know but everything else i mean if i'm assuming you

06:28:58.360 want to also date a man who's orthodox christian it's not a deal breaker if he isn't i mean i didn't i

06:29:04.120 didn't grow up uh relatively involved like very involved in the church i stopped going to the

06:29:08.520 church when i was a child but i continued to um i continued to celebrate you know just traditional

06:29:13.960 christian holidays you know well it's easter orthodox easter okay well i was gonna say if you if you're

06:29:19.480 dating a guy who has an alignment and values as to your religion i think it's unlikely you're gonna run

06:29:26.280 into a situation where he's just but then i i mean i the guy who isn't religious but you're not giving

06:29:34.520 him sex he's not like i don't think if the guy wants sex and he is if he's being monogamous

06:29:45.000 unless he's like asexual or something i don't think he's going to string you along in a relationship

06:29:48.600 just to get like chores out of you okay it's possible um warren what do you think have you ever

06:29:57.880 used a woman for chores i was just i mean my girl's watching this and she's gonna she was probably 1.00

06:30:06.520 cracking up about the laundry because she she genuinely loves it and it to the point where it

06:30:12.040 knows like stop w i just wore those girlfriend slash fiance fiance um it's gonna be honestly it's

06:30:20.760 a conundrum because there are very few and if you can find one it's very it's very admirable

06:30:26.040 if you can find one yeah let me take that champagne away from you move that away we'll be willing to

06:30:33.320 forego that if he's not religious as well because well no religion is important i'm just saying he

06:30:38.440 doesn't have to be in the the branch the orthodox branch but he has to be christian like my ideal

06:30:43.800 i won't settle for any other religion that's that does not interest me right so he has to be christian

06:30:48.920 he has to be christian yeah orthodox not necessarily foregoing sex until marriage right yeah that's going

06:30:56.360 to be yes it's going to be challenging finding a guy like that i think unfortunately today

06:31:03.720 i i would be be try it out as long as it is playing out with it's demonstrating that it

06:31:14.520 has value you act it out and if acting it out is effective continue on it's because you have to

06:31:22.520 test it somehow acting it out as in as as laundry doing the doing the yeah you have to try it out to

06:31:29.480 see if is this going to work yeah in which i mean i don't know how the cohabitation is that going to

06:31:35.080 be a problem like can you be can you try living together without crossing that line i think i i

06:31:42.840 don't necessarily agree with you know moving in or living together before getting married i think i mean

06:31:49.000 i think you know being engaged like that's a different story if you're engaged and you you move in

06:31:53.880 together you know that's great i just i have i just never really always agreed with um moving in

06:32:01.640 together because i saw it as like okay you're just giving him the entire marriage or wife treatment

06:32:06.920 before he gives you the final commitment but you're not sleeping though no so that's that changes the tides

06:32:12.600 then yeah that's a demonstration on his end it's gonna that's a rare man that will do that and if he's

06:32:18.440 gonna act that out that means he's acting out something he believes okay that would be something

06:32:25.000 to go on yeah i think that makes sense thank you laundry first time at the guy's house would you do

06:32:30.840 it i would expect commitment and then i would do commitment yes well really quick something that

06:32:37.000 crossed my mind earlier and i think maybe you kind of uh made the light go off for me in my head on this

06:32:43.800 is is yeah because you're talking about like if the expectation is the guy pays for the first date

06:32:49.240 so like when it comes to the bow when it comes to like doing the laundry right so and by the way on

06:32:54.680 the questionnaire which i put away i'm pretty sure every single one of you to statement five men should

06:33:00.760 pay on first dates every single one of you circled yes men should pay on first dates okay so what's the

06:33:08.440 entailment of that though what does that actually look like so uh what you're then asking when you

06:33:14.600 say men should and it's interesting to me really quick on the should thing women have no problem 0.99

06:33:19.960 saying men should do xyz but the moment men say men or excuse me the moment men say women should do xyz

06:33:31.400 you guys lose your minds women should cook women should clean women should not have careers women 1.00

06:33:36.360 should well women should stay home with kids women should do laundry on the first date women should 1.00

06:33:41.800 bow uh it's it's very interesting it's like well it's misogynistic to say women should do x it's but

06:33:49.400 women put all kinds of shoulds on men but bringing it back to paying for the first date so the entailment 1.00

06:33:55.320 of a man paying for the first date let's say he's a bit younger right we have three women at the panel 19 19 20 0.99

06:34:01.480 uh but it's plausible some of you could be dating a guy who's maybe not a super high income earner

06:34:08.920 so let's say when you're younger you're dating a guy let's say he works a construction job by the

06:34:13.880 way 20 tts roast session get him in let's say you're dating a guy who's a construction worker and

06:34:19.000 he works a really physically demanding job and he makes 20 an hour and there's construction workers

06:34:24.520 who make much less than that if you say men should pay for first dates and let's say to be let's say

06:34:32.360 a date costs 100 so your portion of that is 50 whatever you're saying that the guy has to labor

06:34:39.560 two and a half hours to pay for your date literally labor let's say he digs ditches with a shovel

06:34:47.160 that seems like a bigger ask than just doing doing a bow or folding laundry laundry takes like 15

06:34:58.040 minutes but for a guy to date you he has to work two three hours maybe just to pay for your like the

06:35:06.920 females portion just just not even including his portion because he could not go on that date and

06:35:12.200 just make rice and chicken for five bucks or whatever um but i'll just keep it charitable and

06:35:17.720 just say just to pay for your portion it's 50 to pay for your portion of the date he's got to work

06:35:23.240 two or three hours in order to do that if he's making like 20 bucks an hour let's say he's work again

06:35:29.640 say he's working a physically demanding job he's a laborer or some that's kind of an ask that's an

06:35:37.240 ask it is yeah yeah i would argue like to be consistent and yeah go go get in the laundry

06:35:42.760 room ladies come on get in the laundry room get in the least you can do pick up that basket open 1.00

06:35:48.200 that dryer like a lot of these men work really fucking hard let's go these men work hard to 0.88

06:35:53.080 take you on dates i think also i mean for me personally i don't expect like uh to be like spent 0.90

06:36:01.080 like have fifty dollars a hundred dollars like spent on me on the first date or even like early on

06:36:05.240 in in dating i think you know i'm very simple just like let's go do something fun let's go do

06:36:10.920 something cheap let's go do something fun uh it doesn't have to be some like lavish lavish luxurious

06:36:18.520 dinner at like chef ramsey's restaurant or something like it doesn't i think anything

06:36:22.840 i mean it doesn't even yeah it doesn't need to be anything extravagant right off the bat well i mean

06:36:28.840 i don't think i think it needs to be a hundred dollars isn't like crazy to spend like if you go

06:36:35.400 to like a mid-tier restaurant you each get a drink you get an appetizer you each have a main course

06:36:41.400 you tip you're i mean you could easily spend a hundred bucks on that so i'm not like you could go

06:36:47.320 to a really nice restaurant spend a couple hundred or even into the thousands i'm not saying that but

06:36:53.720 look i mean even if you take her out to you know you each you spend 20 on hers 20 on yours that's

06:37:00.200 still an hour of work if he's making 20 an hour and i'm just saying if that's the if men should pay

06:37:06.920 for first dates you're just saying men should go and physically labor for an hour and then pay for my 0.91

06:37:13.960 shit that's the amount of income you're bringing in it's gonna be really hard to live off just his 0.89

06:37:20.440 wages as well of course it's that's why i have like a set you know a set ideal standard that he 0.83

06:37:26.840 would make in terms of like in the context of like raising a family raising a family practically

06:37:32.680 right and while i was just using an example there like probably you know a girl who's in college 0.77

06:37:38.120 it's reasonable she's gonna date a guy who's making like a lot of these guys are making less

06:37:42.200 than 20 an hour but he's making 20 an hour um even women in college some of them are gonna have 1.00

06:37:49.080 an expectation that the guy pay for the dinner or whatever it is maybe not all of them but uh we

06:37:53.960 have some chats coming through guys twenty dollar tts get them in we're gonna get this wrapped up

06:37:57.320 here uh try to get this wrapped up within about 15 20 minutes so get your messages in twenty dollar

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06:38:16.120 since we last got a prime i'm pretty sure it's bugged i think it's bugged boys can we get a can

06:38:20.600 you can somebody test out if uh the the twitch primes are still working i think it i think it's messed up

06:38:29.240 since three minutes ago okay thank you thank you all right twenty dollar tts get them in get them in we

06:38:34.520 have pasty george pasty george donated seventy dollars wait a minute if women expect men to

06:38:42.600 initiate the first date to pick her up to open the door to pay for the date to drive her home etc why

06:38:49.960 can't a woman fold his clean laundry is it that bad i don't expect a man to pick me up for the first 1.00

06:38:56.840 state actually do you want a guy to observe the sidewalk rule where he stands on the side closer

06:39:03.720 to the street yeah i think it's nice i think it's just a gentlemanly thing to do i don't think that

06:39:08.600 takes but it's kind of like oh he should die no i mean i've caught myself it's literally like

06:39:15.720 girls expectation is like he should be willing to die for me that is so yeah dramatic i guess but i mean

06:39:21.800 okay the idea here with the sidewalk rule is like if it's more dangerous to walk closer to the street

06:39:26.760 like say there's an oncoming oncoming car he can like push you out of the way take the car i'm dead

06:39:33.240 crippled whatever the least you could do is fold the guy's laundry if i gotta walk on the side of 0.95

06:39:40.360 the street i said i will walk closer to the street if you don't have to fold the laundry on the first

06:39:47.080 day i don't understand like what's so wrong with doing the men's laundry like if you like him it's

06:39:51.800 something that you would enjoy like he's not asking you to like change the roof on his house

06:39:58.040 or something i have nothing against doing a man's laundry i've done it a million times before i've

06:40:02.360 lived with a boyfriend i've always like i'm always open to do that but on the first date i don't even

06:40:06.840 know this guy this is my first day meeting you but if you're going on a date with him that means

06:40:11.720 you're like i need to come back home i don't i don't even want to go back to the guy's house on

06:40:14.920 the first date how long do you like to wait before like having sex for the first time with a guy first

06:40:19.800 date second date a few dates i don't i don't sleep with the guy on the first date let's be honest no

06:40:24.280 i'm being honest with you i don't sleep with a man on a first date she said she's been celibate for 1.00

06:40:27.960 the last year yeah i i actually do hold that importance so i'm like i'm not gonna come home sleep

06:40:33.560 with you and then do your laundry i don't know say whatever you want but that's just me i don't know i just

06:40:39.720 feel like it would just be a red flag for a man to take me on a date be like all right now come home

06:40:43.880 and do my laundry i'm looking you in your eyes so how many dates or like how committed would you

06:40:52.040 have to be for you to like decide to do a man's laundry i think if we've been dating okay for a

06:40:57.160 little bit i don't i don't want to put a time period on it but we've been dating we're clearly

06:41:00.360 into each other you're not sleeping with other women and i'm coming back to your house i'll do your 1.00

06:41:03.800 damn laundry yeah i think it's like the conversation if we're exclusive or not or if we're 0.98

06:41:10.200 like um heading to that direction of being in a relationship is when i start kind of performing 0.98

06:41:16.520 those duties or wanting to do those things for my partner just because i feel like there's there are

06:41:22.200 men that also just play a game and why am i going to be like you said like doing putting myself more

06:41:28.440 out there where i could possibly be getting taken advantage of but even if he is playing a game and

06:41:34.200 he has bad intentions with you at the end of the day you're going to be that one girl who he's going 0.95

06:41:39.080 to be like damn that's the one girl who folded my laundry like maybe i did fumble that you know what 1.00

06:41:44.920 i mean like he's going to be he's not going to be thinking about that about any other girl that 0.94

06:41:49.560 didn't do that he's even if he is a player or whatever he's still going to be thinking about you like

06:41:54.840 oh she did something that no other girl wanted to do for me so maybe like even years later down 0.99

06:42:00.280 the line when he matures he's going to be like damn like there was that one girl you know what

06:42:05.240 i mean at that point i feel like i he would be forgotten and i don't wouldn't be thinking about 0.71

06:42:11.080 him i feel like i don't really care if this man i'm not going to go forever ago yeah there's a lot

06:42:15.800 of times where i go on a first date with a man and i'm absolutely not interested a first date is

06:42:19.320 for getting to know somebody it's not for me to be like i am a good wife let me fold your laundry

06:42:23.480 let me do your dishes it's like we're going to go sit down have a conversation and i'm going to

06:42:27.480 ask you questions about yourself you're going to ask me questions about me and then we're going

06:42:30.440 to go about our day and see if we want to see each other again i don't think it's about trying

06:42:33.560 to prove ourselves or trying to so brian modified the question earlier so it's like the first time

06:42:38.280 you go over to this guy's house so how soon after or like how many dates does it take for you

06:42:42.200 to go over to someone's house i think i'd have to be exclusively seeing the guy and him me like i i

06:42:46.920 don't want him to like have me overdo his laundry and then he's going to go hit up another

06:42:49.880 girl to come over and do it so then so that's what i'm getting at so like after you guys have like

06:42:53.080 after you guys have like exclusively said you're going to be together and this is the first time

06:42:56.680 you're going over to his house you would be more inclined to do his laundry the first time you go

06:43:00.280 over to his house after you've like established your relationship yeah okay but i'm not just going

06:43:04.680 to go over like a first time i've ever met somebody and i'm going to their house kind of a thing i

06:43:08.040 got one thing i want to add to this you know how i said i was putting the the men on some game

06:43:13.720 i want to put the women on some game too and this is full circle this is full circle okay 1.00

06:43:19.560 so in the same way i said you know put put men on the game i'm gonna put you guys on some game 0.79

06:43:26.280 the guy okay sorry i'm fucking drunk still from the champagne we had two champagne pops okay give me 0.97

06:43:33.160 here's the game as the woman if you want because you guys were talking about commitment as i stepped 0.57

06:43:39.560 away there for a bit like how do you get the commitment from the guy i'm telling you do

06:43:43.560 something beyond what other women are doing so all women can offer up sex right and if your goal as the 1.00

06:43:50.760 girl if if you actually are really interested in the guy whether he's really attractive or he meets all

06:43:56.760 your uh your standards whatever and i'm hoping your goal is to actually deal with men who you do see

06:44:03.480 long-term potential with you gotta put yourself and especially if you're dealing with like a really 1.00

06:44:10.280 attractive dude you have to do things that other women aren't willing to do so the game for you guys 0.60

06:44:16.440 is you just walk into the laundry room and you fold his laundry he doesn't bring you in there he

06:44:24.600 doesn't tell you to do it you know it's not even well you could even frame it like this 0.95

06:44:28.840 do you have any laundry that i can do for you i know that that blows your feminist brains into a 1.00

06:44:37.480 million pieces but i guarantee you if you've struggled to land the dude and you're dealing

06:44:43.640 with a guy and you you think maybe he's got serious intentions you've got serious intentions

06:44:48.840 i'm telling you that's gonna put you apart and you might hate to do it you might feel like well the

06:44:54.120 the feminist mind virus is telling you nope i'm not doing that for no man i'm not doing it for a guy 1.00

06:44:59.560 but i'm telling you if you do do it mind you if you actually like let me ask you realistically for

06:45:04.040 those of you who are kind of like questioning whether this you're like i ain't doing that

06:45:08.200 shit is it is it actually that much effort like answer me that like is actually doing that thing 0.90

06:45:17.000 i know you might feel like oh i would feel bad doing it but is the actual act of it is it a lot of work 0.97

06:45:22.280 no it's not a lot of work but i will say though if like like i said earlier if i was already in the

06:45:30.920 conversations of like okay where is this going is this going to be like like serious um then that

06:45:38.680 would naturally just come out for me because i'd want to cater to my man and take care of him but 0.91

06:45:44.120 other than that if there's no conversation then there's not an urge for me to want to do more

06:45:48.840 if that makes sense okay so you're saying you're like holding that back reserving that back until

06:45:54.600 you get commitment or a relationship but i'm telling you what if it is the case like have you

06:45:59.640 ever dealt with a guy have you been in a situation ship where you wanted commitment and he didn't give

06:46:03.960 it at first yeah okay what'd you do what'd you do to get him to commit wait you're telling me you've

06:46:11.960 never dealt with a dude like every single guy you've dealt with you ended up getting a relationship

06:46:16.840 oh no okay okay so you've gotten every single guy huh you've got in everyone and when i say got

06:46:26.200 you got a monogamous long-term relationship out of every single dude you've dealt with no was there

06:46:33.880 ever a guy who you wanted that with who you didn't get that from him big ogle in the chat thank you for 0.99

06:46:39.720 the gifted 50 memberships fucking ogle what a fucking legend ogle do you know who this is this 0.99

06:46:44.520 is fucking warren smith get this he's already he's passing out from the alcohol get this man more drunk 0.99

06:46:51.800 uh if you want it's his birthday it's his birthday the big christ you want to do crystal logo you know 1.00

06:46:59.320 we got some regular champagne bottles too ogle but i know you're a fucking top g ogle's a top g he's 0.99

06:47:04.440 a fucking legend so you know if you want to do a little crystal but we also have regular champagne 0.97

06:47:09.880 too thank you ogle dude fucking ogle good to see you man it's been a minute i haven't seen you in 0.98

06:47:14.280 a minute where you been man it's probably less last show i'm forgetting things anyways what were we 0.97

06:47:18.920 talking about oh okay what what i was gonna say is if it got you the commitment if doing that thing

06:47:26.600 was the thing that got you the commitment why wouldn't why not do it i guess i don't know

06:47:32.440 is it the fact that it's laundry could it be like some other like oh it could be like

06:47:36.920 like i want to cook for you i want to cook for you i want to do is there something i can help you with

06:47:42.200 to make your life like my significant other he's a lawn he's like a lawn dad okay he put in irrigation

06:47:47.000 all this great stuff last year but he's really big on pulling weeds if i went out and pulled the weeds

06:47:52.520 it'd be the end of it he'd love it it'd be like everything for him just over weeding just

06:47:57.400 something simple in terms of the weeds yeah in terms of the effort of actually doing some of these

06:48:01.320 activities again i realize you don't like it but it's really not that much effort to do some of

06:48:08.520 these simple things like oh can i just help you like organize your room can i help you clean up your

06:48:12.920 room a bit can i can i vacuum with that whatever it is can it be cleaning can it be cooking can it be

06:48:17.400 doing his laundry i'm telling you you you might not like to hear it you might everything in every fiber 0.74

06:48:25.560 of your body might fight against it because the feminist the feminist mind virus has taken over 1.00

06:48:31.800 but like you could just try it like give it a shot give it a shot and you might be surprised how the

06:48:38.760 how the guy reacts and you're gonna you might get that callback that you otherwise wouldn't have gotten

06:48:43.640 you might get that relationship you might get that ring that you wouldn't have otherwise gotten you

06:48:48.920 got to set yourself apart from the other women i think it's some really good game if you're coming 1.00

06:48:54.200 over to a guy's house to bring him a meal like pick a meal that you would like to make the most that's 0.89

06:48:59.880 really good and just bring it to him be like i made you something food's good food's good food's good

06:49:05.160 bring him some fruit bring him fruit bring him some good food but it look it's uh because if you're

06:49:13.960 dealing with a guy who's really attractive right he's got he's got his pick of options he's got

06:49:18.680 he's got options and if your goal is to to get him 0.99

06:49:23.960 oh shit fucking ogle giga chat here hold on can you get me uh all right we're gonna get 0.99

06:49:32.360 we're gonna get uh our boy warren here 1.00

06:49:34.280 ogle underscore glue dot net gonna get warren drunk and then we're gonna get

06:49:40.280 oh i re-triggered it my bad as i'm traveling but happy birthday to your guests yo thank you man

06:49:45.400 and kudos to a solid panel tonight a-ok hand emoji a-ok hand emoji a-ok hand emoji

06:49:52.840 yo ogle you're a fucking legend dude he's a brave and a decent man yes sorry i i accidentally 0.98

06:50:03.480 triggered it twice my bad yo ogle thank you so much man appreciate it appreciate the champagne 0.97

06:50:08.120 pop here towards the end of the show guys reminder 20 tts um 20 tts uh ogle sends a follow-up here

06:50:17.560 oh what is it not oh i have to wait a little little bit to let this

06:50:21.720 the others are going to come through in just a moment guys we have a message coming in

06:50:25.880 uh i actually think that's a great mindset for a woman just to think about what can you give 0.98

06:50:31.160 instead of taking out a relationship

06:50:35.400 to the middle girl's comment about bringing food the old saying is the fastest way to a man's heart

06:50:41.000 is via his stomach yes i mean it's the gesture too you know it's it's the gesture and uh

06:50:47.000 uh yeah it's just it'll set you apart because i think a lot of guys don't have that experience 1.00

06:50:52.280 and it's like you might say well i'll just suck his dick real good or you know i'll give him 1.00

06:50:56.680 pussy but it's like and if he's an attractive dude like he's getting that he's getting that 1.00

06:51:02.520 how can you set yourself apart and uh i'm just saying i've i've had like multiple women dm me 0.99

06:51:11.720 saying brian i didn't want to do that but i just tried it just as an experiment do this

06:51:19.000 experiment but they all tell me worked great worked great it just shows that you like him

06:51:25.480 like there's nothing wrong with showing someone that you like them yeah it's like the woman and

06:51:29.240 doing um like acts of service or whatever you like to do to show them that you care yeah

06:51:37.000 sorry guys i'm taking off this foil or whatever all right uh let me let some other chats come

06:51:42.040 through while i get this popped we have big ogle the gifted 50 oh my goodness we have amorphous

06:51:47.800 here sorry for the delay on these guys for 69 donated 100 dollars i am the one and only's

06:51:53.880 sentience i leave for a minute and find that nothing's changed with these 304s only in the

06:52:00.360 west do women fight the patriarchy only to submit to an overlord who doesn't care 1.00

06:52:06.360 by the way sorry for the delay on that amorphous we're kind of in god i got a little distracted from

06:52:11.640 my i'm the one i have to manually trigger these now because uh reasons but he's the one and only

06:52:17.400 sentience now i'm getting confused i don't know who's real who's not what what the deal is i'm gonna

06:52:22.120 wait to pop it until our our good friend warren's back here because this is for for warren's warren's

06:52:27.720 birthday so i'll pop it once he's back we have oh this one's funny i like this one indigenous names

06:52:34.200 committee donated twenty dollars and sixty nine cents yo thank you man be it known it has been

06:52:39.560 decreed that henceforth brixton's indigenous name shall be walks with burritos an exception has been

06:52:46.120 granted since we know brixton is unable to fast from eating burritos that's crazy that's crazy that

06:52:52.200 damn walks with burritos how about like okay sure i'll take it i'll take it based thor donated twenty 0.97

06:53:00.120 dollars my sprinkler goes like this 0.99

06:53:09.240 oh that's a good pop

06:53:13.080 comes back like

06:53:18.440 how does it squirt or cream

06:53:22.360 what's that is this would you do the candace owens like charlie kirk or the champagne pops 0.99

06:53:27.880 i don't know if we got any champagne pops uh is this your coat well it is now uh i'm just trying

06:53:33.880 to picture that anybody want you guys want to top off of okay thank you one more i won't make warren

06:53:39.240 drink alone can you just pass it down and i'll all right that's for warren i need to fill it up a little

06:53:47.400 more buddy hold on one sec let me let some other chats come through while i'm getting this done we

06:53:53.160 have cha thank you cha appreciate it man cho xd donated twenty dollars i seldom send this kind

06:54:00.200 of message but i think you have a good half chair six if you commit to ousting the malignant

06:54:05.880 feminist mind virus that will try to take hold it's for you make a great wife one day thank you so much 1.00

06:54:12.360 that means a lot thank you cha appreciate it uh cheers to ogle cheers you're a fucking legend thank you 0.99

06:54:20.920 so much for this uh support man uh salute 0.94

06:54:31.640 all right we have hot cheese soup guys twenty dollar tts get it in roast session

06:54:36.360 twenty dollars warren looks like he's about to go get the boy a chicken leg and some waffle fries

06:54:43.560 for free scooting to the table a little bit guys scooting to the table um your response to hot

06:54:49.000 cheese soup yeah it's 3 a.m yeah we're wrapping up we're wrapping this up soon oh it is we're gonna

06:54:54.760 let these roast we're gonna let some roast come through then they get this all pretty much wrapped

06:54:58.600 up uh we have uh riot thank you riot appreciate it man riot donated twenty dollars

06:55:06.440 yeah you can finish off the stream with a popsicle felicity go for it we have cha coming in again

06:55:18.600 thank you man the entire topic of chivalric behavior in modernity is wild none of the women who expect 0.99

06:55:29.000 this behavior have any idea that the code was intended only for virtuous virgin christian women not you

06:55:39.240 it's like yeah that's a good point it's a good point we got pasty george here

06:55:43.240 pasty george donated twenty dollars my second girlfriend came over to my place on the first date 0.98

06:55:51.000 she did not fold my laundry but she did do my dishes a single plate spoon and fork we were together 0.98

06:55:58.600 for three years i was wrist lol she did your day yeah dishes that's a good one oh it's only a single 0.82

06:56:07.640 okay that's not i mean that's not big ass you know but uh we have oh no brixton's dumpy claps donated 0.93

06:56:14.520 twenty dollars alina's hot i agree you gotta pay a sim tax dude it's there's a 69 dollar sim tax you 0.90

06:56:22.680 gotta you gotta send one does it go to me nope it goes to me it goes to me it's rude okay we have say so

06:56:31.880 thank you man say so nz donated twenty dollars stopped my partner cooking or doing laundry for

06:56:38.360 me women are usually bad cooks i always cook better myself laundry is used as a bargaining tool 1.00

06:56:45.640 guys should be 100 self-sufficient aside from kids

06:56:51.400 yeah you should be able to do this on your own i'm just saying

06:56:54.600 she could you know make your life a little easier uh this is zentians here hey thank you man

06:56:59.720 zentians donated thirty dollars amorphous is an old email i use for roasting i'm still zentians

06:57:07.960 there you go he's got two this is what he's saying yo zentians uh this guy again he's a 0.97

06:57:13.640 fucking og we had a couple ogs we had grid one we had zentians and we had mike davis in the chat 0.98

06:57:19.720 tonight so we had some ogs popping through really good to see zentians an og supporter og supporters 0.99

06:57:25.480 zentians where you been man where you been i don't think i've seen has it there you've popped

06:57:32.840 in i think here and there maybe but you've been mostly gone so it's really good to see you man

06:57:38.840 thank you for the support he's still zentians he's the uh i'm still what's that rap song i'm still

06:57:46.040 i'm still

06:57:52.280 there's like a rapper who's like i'm still the old me or

06:58:00.200 i don't think it's eminem

06:58:04.280 hello cool j i don't know whatever okay da baby

06:58:08.840 the baby donated twenty dollars brian why don't you put the girls instagrams in the description 0.64

06:58:16.360 anymore uh why don't i put mostly just because

06:58:25.800 i don't want

06:58:28.760 them to be bothered by haters because some of them get some nasty messages uh yeah okay brink

06:58:38.680 brixon's dumpy

06:58:42.280 some tax paid worth it stating facts isn't simping though brian lol

06:58:51.720 what's that you watering it watering it no this is just my water cup my water cup uh guys final call

06:59:00.520 twenty dollar tts final call twenty dollar tts get them in get them in get them in uh oh we'll do our

06:59:05.320 final little segment here uh pull it back up uh we we do a final segment

06:59:11.960 if you guys want to uh remove your makeup oh god there you go there you go you guys down to do a

06:59:22.600 makeup removal sure yeah go ahead

06:59:28.200 actually i break out easily though oh i got you the good one those are the good ones

06:59:33.560 are you sure am i break out yeah those are the the good ones i need antibacterial soap

06:59:39.240 yeah trust me that's a good one you're good your skin's gonna be perfect after that trust me

06:59:44.280 beauty you'll be are you liana you're gonna do it you guys no makeup you yeah get her makeup

06:59:50.200 weird but sure i'm just i'm i'm looking out for you guys anybody felicity you gonna do this i don't 1.00

06:59:56.600 wear makeup you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar this is so strange it's the final segment 0.99

07:00:08.600 and then we wrap the show twenty dollar tts get it in get it in gentlemen and get it in it's good 1.00

07:00:17.720 and then when you're done you're gonna hold up the hold up the makeup wipes is there anything else we

07:00:24.440 had to go over we did the bow we pretty much did everything that's pretty much it um it'll be a

07:00:29.400 little shorter show tonight uh yeah well what does warren have to say i feel like warren didn't have

07:00:35.720 a whole lot of things you want to talk about do you want to prolong it no i'm just saying i think

07:00:41.400 warren i mean i'm i'm down to keep going but i feel like warren's tired i feel bad for the guy

07:00:46.920 i don't want to try going well you said earlier can you talk to me about like your thoughts on like

07:00:52.680 marriage and like the contract of marriage i'm actually very curious about your thoughts on that

07:00:59.400 you can do an abbreviated version yeah the legal significance of it i think is

07:01:03.400 more vast than than we realize i would i think

07:01:08.520 that lawyer what's his name james sexton do you want to do it the makeup thing the makeup thing

07:01:13.800 other than this i was just talking to her oh sorry sorry you had to wake me up no thank you

07:01:18.040 i'll take a towel uh no i mean i think we covered the prenup do you have any questions for me yeah

07:01:29.960 anybody what are the topics you talk about online me i apply kind of critical thinking to a variety of

07:01:38.120 topics looking at debates it's i'm more interested in how people think rather than just the information

07:01:45.160 which is what people think there's a lot of people online that can out research and out information

07:01:51.800 i have a lot of respect for destiny i just got to meet him

07:01:55.000 two weeks ago at the national debate championship which is really cool and we were working with high

07:02:00.360 school students but it's just different styles different things that interest me i'm more interested in

07:02:07.960 how to think and philosophy and i think everything that we talk about tonight in one way or another comes

07:02:16.200 back to the idea of living in accordance with the fabric of reality which sounds kind of like what is

07:02:25.000 true what we're talking about how beauty works how attraction works and today we live in a world where

07:02:31.960 many people in these debates i'm looking at people one side seems to think that the fabric of reality

07:02:38.280 either doesn't exist or it's malleable so are you familiar like jordan peterson yes yes i think he

07:02:44.200 caught lightning in a bottle because he was teaching that very idea yeah like nothing will improve your life

07:02:49.960 more than living in accordance with the laws of what is true if that makes sense so i read some of his

07:02:57.880 books did you yeah yeah yeah what did you teach actually before the multimedia video production video

07:03:04.920 technology yeah so it kind of organically flowed into content creation that's how that video ended up

07:03:13.400 rock and roll uh okay we final call guys on the 20 tts if you guys want to get those in we're going to

07:03:20.360 get this wrapped up here within about five minutes uh and then um what was i going to say

07:03:28.840 i think that's pretty much it warren did you want to go back to the titanic

07:03:32.280 i think the only i just wanted to add one final point on that just on my end um is ultimately my

07:03:42.440 position comes down to uh i it is a rejection of the it's a rejection of male disposability so this idea

07:03:53.480 that men should sacrifice their life die uh i reject that just categorically i don't think

07:04:02.200 we should view men as disposable i agree and that would be that's sort of the foundation and basis 1.00

07:04:09.320 for my uh argumentation against men uh going down with the titanic yeah yeah that's that's pretty much

07:04:19.880 it uh we got a couple more coming through creenation creenation donated 20 dollars final call guys

07:04:27.160 so far keep it up brian yo thank you man thank you so much creenation is this

07:04:32.120 pasty george here thank you man appreciate it uh yeah it was uh

07:04:39.880 it was an interesting i don't know y'all y'all should have argued a bit more or something

07:04:45.240 i don't know there there was good moments or something i was hoping for some opportunity to

07:04:50.200 debate i was hoping for that you want to debate anything i don't know you could probably debate me

07:04:54.680 yeah i feel like we're two on the same page just one sec respect for women who are not 0.93

07:05:00.280 insecure about showing their real faces and not their fake masks thanks pasty george w pasty george l

07:05:07.800 felicity in the chat i do not wear makeup he disliked us all show but we took our makeup off so 1.00

07:05:13.160 now he has to like it you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar thank you nemo 1.00

07:05:17.640 underscored you'd extonated 20 dollars privet alina you're a lovely woman i once dated a russian 1.00

07:05:25.240 girl and she said they had a saying back home never let your man leave the house with his stomach empty

07:05:30.760 and his balls fall true slash false i've only heard that in english i'm not gonna lie but i i agree

07:05:38.120 that's fair we got ogle here ogle thank you man bring this panel back oh it was good 0.94

07:05:47.640 it was actually i kind of i feel like i needed a more chill show tonight it's been like it was good

07:05:52.120 the past few panels have been kind of hectic so it was good to have like a a more chill level

07:05:58.600 panel so it was good and we had some pretty fun moments so we have jay big j thank you man donated

07:06:03.640 19 dollars brian remember the good old 5.00 fake news fake news you've come a long way brother

07:06:13.000 happy birthday warren have a great night ladies i saw an old i saw an old episode and like you look

07:06:21.080 like so young like 15 that makes me want to go watch old episodes the table is like tiny and yellow and

07:06:26.760 all that i saw that too yeah old ones well there's like the old uh it was super chats like when i first

07:06:33.000 started the show we read every super chat but i don't think there ever actually was a time even

07:06:38.680 for roasts when we ever did five dollar tts not even ten dollar like roast tts uh tts has always been

07:06:47.560 uh at least sometimes we lower it like we'll go i don't know we it used to be it used to be fifty

07:06:56.120 dollar read a hundred dollar tts

07:07:00.520 that's the only thing i yeah i don't know but jay really good to see you man you're an og as well

07:07:04.520 good to see you thank you thank you we have pasty george thank you pasty george donated twenty dollars

07:07:09.880 i want to thank the panelists for appearing on the podcast and thanks to brian and warren as well

07:07:16.040 this podcast is essential and i will be a thank you thank you man you're a legend good night everyone

07:07:24.920 w pasty w our canadian friend we're we're gonna eventually annex you so you'll be part of the 0.99

07:07:32.280 part of america the great 51st state of okay doing my most terrible trump impression but thank you man

07:07:40.440 i wanted twenty dollars brian if you can host a bunch of debates in one week you can bring back

07:07:46.200 tuesday's show your back or neck pain is not an obstacle it's a cop-out we want tuesday's show back

07:07:54.040 uh i mean the the thing is is like what the back pain and neck pain is part of it but it was also just

07:08:01.640 like there's a lot that goes into behind the scenes to make the shows happened happen and the thing is

07:08:09.400 it's a it's a lot of stress not just related to the back or neck pain stuff that i i deal with but

07:08:18.200 if i continue doing the tuesday show i can guarantee you 2025 would be the last like if

07:08:24.280 i could get through 2025 but it would probably i'd be burnt out and so i was like okay i can continue

07:08:29.960 the show just on sundays and i can continue basically continue it indefinitely in perpetuity

07:08:36.200 but two times a week was just a bit too much so i was like you know what if i if you guys want to

07:08:41.800 see the show like have greater uh longevity then i have to go down to once a week it is possible we

07:08:50.360 could go back to twice a week but for the time being i think this is the best schedule but i am

07:08:56.360 considering introducing a new format i don't know if you guys would be interested in this we're going to

07:09:00.680 call it whatever wednesday where it's uh primarily it's going to be me maybe i could bring on like

07:09:07.960 like a sidekick or like other guests but it's more just like we'll do live reacts to stuff that's

07:09:16.040 going on mostly dating related but maybe get into some other topics but yeah there's like a bunch of

07:09:22.600 stuff that you can react to just on tiktok and i think it'd be cool to explore that and then i we could

07:09:29.080 talk about like some uh men's rights advocacy stuff which i think would be interesting uh so

07:09:35.240 whatever wednesday i that's maybe in the works um okay we have snap more final call guys get them in

07:09:41.480 get them in and then this is getting ready i gotta get warren bricks and i gotta get him back to say

07:09:47.320 that women should be more feminine and i got him too liquored up it seems like the west is too far

07:09:53.320 indoctrinated by marxism disguised as feminism slash education yeah it's true snap more it's

07:10:00.680 true it's hard to someone asked me about the marriage thing um is there any reason that i'm

07:10:08.280 missing that the government should be involved no i actually agree with your standpoint on it i don't

07:10:15.160 understand why the government should be involved i mean if you're committed to someone and they're

07:10:18.840 committed to you and you guys can have that commitment together why do you have to have

07:10:22.920 the government involved beyond taxes i understand yeah exactly like at the end of the day like the

07:10:27.240 only thing you're getting out of being married legally on paper is uh insurance taxes and that's 0.97

07:10:33.720 about it so like realistically why do we have to be like married on paper

07:10:41.880 you could just not get married too no no i agree with that statement like realistically if you love

07:10:47.240 your if you love your partner like i'm with warren on this situation like just have us like just have

07:10:53.080 a ceremony and be happy with how things are worked out like i don't see why you have to go and sign a

07:10:57.720 bunch of paperwork and go and get a blood test and everything else like if you're happy with your

07:11:01.720 person then why do you have to go through all these hoops especially especially like in the long run like

07:11:09.320 realist like i said like insurance and like tax and everything else like if you can do it yourself

07:11:14.040 why worry about yeah james sexen describes it as an antiquated technology that 100 100 100 my

07:11:21.720 my aunt and uncle i guarantee they've been together for forever in a day and realistically they have no

07:11:26.760 kids they have no other assets like they live together realistically i feel like at the end of

07:11:30.680 the day if they didn't have to have like or they didn't feel the need to have like a marriage

07:11:34.040 certificate they wouldn't because they're just they've just been together for forever

07:11:38.440 so why why have why have paper just say that you've been together for forever in a day

07:11:46.920 brian what what are your thoughts on it you raised your eyebrows on on like having like a legal

07:11:52.360 like by marriage with like paper and everything i'm not in favor of marriage okay i'm i'm totally fine

07:11:57.720 with if you want to spend your life with one person and being monogamous and have children i'm not

07:12:02.760 like anti-natalist or anti-monogamy or anti staying with one person but i guess perhaps to warren's

07:12:11.640 point i don't see the actual point of getting the government 100 involved and i suppose if my

07:12:17.720 partner wanted like an arbitrary non-legally binding ceremony i'd be okay with that but like

07:12:24.840 getting the government involved just i feel like it like muddies the water like why why do it if you

07:12:30.440 don't have to uh yeah yeah and then like i don't know it's just there's certain financial financial

07:12:37.640 ramifications in the event of a divorce yeah so like but again you can still sign a contract

07:12:43.800 like maybe not necessarily a prenup but you can still sign a contract before that and say this is

07:12:47.800 what we're doing well the thing is like prenups can only apply you you should probably well i don't

07:12:56.680 want to say definitively if this is the case but prenups typically apply to assets that exist prior

07:13:02.680 to marriage uh i don't think there's certain things you in a prenup that you can do as it relates to

07:13:09.880 community property that's been accrued during the marriage um also prenups can be challenged uh

07:13:18.200 so there's that fear even if you do have a prenup i would say to be charitable i think overwhelmingly

07:13:23.800 prenups are enforced but they can still be challenged that's another complication

07:13:30.840 and it's just like i don't know what i don't know i just don't see the point do you think marriage is

07:13:36.120 good like uh prescriptively for the society and it's just not good for you or you just think

07:13:43.480 no man should get married uh well i think people staying together uh if they have children like i think

07:13:52.520 you can stay together with one person absent marriage so i think like what's the actual

07:14:02.520 difference between and i'm not like common law and like actually having a legal bind like

07:14:09.960 we can still be married it's just why does the government need to stamp i guess it's more

07:14:14.680 difficult to leave like it makes it more difficult to leave well actually i think you can actually

07:14:21.880 make a counter argument here to this uh if you're married there's actually an incentive to leave

07:14:30.360 for the person who's not the breadwinner all of a sudden you get alimony it's like uh we're in a

07:14:36.280 rough patch hmm if i divorce him i get like xyz i get alimony i get this i get community property

07:14:44.280 it's actually an it seems like there's an incentive to get divorced in some cases

07:14:49.400 i guess but that's also a big burden on anyone to be a divorced person it's harder to find the new

07:14:56.200 someone new it's you have a lot of time financial burdens after being divorced or you have children

07:15:03.480 children it's just you know it makes your record like not as clean the benefits don't outweigh the

07:15:11.240 benefits of a divorce might not outweigh um the benefits of staying married in other words

07:15:19.560 so are you for like legalizing your marriage or are you okay with like a civil you're christian

07:15:25.160 right i assume you want to i i want i want to get married in church i i am conservative conservative

07:15:31.720 so you know to an extent i believe you know limited government i don't think the government

07:15:34.760 should be sticking their nose in every aspect of our lives however i will make the exception for

07:15:42.360 marriage i'm not well educated on it like i everybody's making great points at this table

07:15:46.280 as to you know why like compelling arguments as to why you know the government shouldn't be involved

07:15:51.480 in marriage and that's just something i have to look more into i'm not going to pretend to be an

07:15:54.360 expert on that but for now from what i'm what i've been raised around what i'm familiar with with

07:15:58.680 my morals and values currently it is important to me to have a legalized marriage i guess i'm curious

07:16:04.760 for the rest of the panel like how do you feel about like legalized marriage or just being like in a

07:16:09.800 long-term partnership where you all have agreed to just being together for the rest of your lives

07:16:15.560 quote unquote i think if you're not religious then you shouldn't get married i guess but i also

07:16:21.000 wish that more people were religious and would get married i think that's fair

07:16:24.680 well i mean i the thing is if you're not religious i actually don't see the point

07:16:31.320 any benefits like the only pro-religious arguments i've i hear uh would be religious arguments for it

07:16:40.920 because the faith demands that you get married yeah they have a marriage certificate and everything

07:16:46.040 yeah i agree i mean yeah there's like okay there's certain i guess tax benefits but i mean that's just

07:16:51.720 whatever like i said like at the end of the day like realistically your tax tax benefits insurance

07:16:56.920 everything like that like what do you really gain out of that because you can i hate to say it but i

07:17:01.640 work for a small company so like realistically my insurance benefits are way cheaper for me being

07:17:05.880 a single individual than if i had like a partner i don't think people are like getting married for

07:17:12.680 the there are some people who do sure it's possible but i don't think that's like a major driving

07:17:19.320 force like that's not going to push somebody over the like if they're a fence sitter oh the tax benefit

07:17:25.880 i guess i'll do it i don't know it's and also like when it comes to health care decisions you can give

07:17:31.960 somebody an event you can do like a uh power of attorney or advanced health care directive yeah

07:17:38.840 like if i wanted to i could give warren in the event of my incapacitation warren you can make would

07:17:46.120 you uh keep me alive would you would you pull the would you pull the plug deployed anyways i provide

07:17:51.080 my own health insurance but i'm not even i'm not even talking about that i'm just talking about like

07:17:54.760 being able to enroll in like health benefits with your partner like you can get discounted health

07:18:00.120 benefits if you're married to someone yeah but like to your point though what you were asking alina is

07:18:06.280 like well is it better for society but it's like if it is basically the same thing to stay with that

07:18:12.760 person your entire life and have children with them and be monogamous that's kind of like because

07:18:18.920 people think this idea of of marriage it's like okay in order to have x you need to get married so

07:18:26.200 uh to have kids what about kids well i can have kids outside of marriage outside of marriage i don't

07:18:31.960 need marriage to have kids well what about staying with them for you know uh well

07:18:36.120 i can stay i can have kids and stay with them for the rest of my life and we can uh cohabitate

07:18:43.000 i actually have a aunt and uncle who actually that's literally what it is they've been together

07:18:47.240 for forever and a day and they aren't married and they have three kids together and all of them have

07:18:51.720 graduated and they're still together and they've never legally had anything in writing yeah but i guess

07:18:58.120 ultimately it's just it's faith what do i get in marriage that i can't get from a long-term monogamous

07:19:06.440 relationship 100 agree i just heard that um relationships where two people cohabitate and

07:19:13.000 they're not married are tend to be unsuccessful a lot of the time like that's an actual statistic

07:19:18.840 but like how unsuccessful what's the divorce rate so okay these people get married less successful

07:19:24.680 than those who get married even with the high divorce rate but why are they unsuccessful because

07:19:29.160 like i just said i have an aunt and uncle who've been together for at least over 18 years because all

07:19:33.240 of their kids are out of the house and they've been together for as long as their kids have been alive

07:19:37.560 at least i'm just saying you see people for cohabitating non-married people than it is for

07:19:43.880 than the actual divorce rate but the sample pool is completely different as well because what does

07:19:48.360 cohabitation mean you have a lot of people that are just dating not married considering cohabitation

07:19:53.800 it's not the same as like living together right it's not the same as considering well we're married but

07:19:59.000 not under the government wait what are you saying we're talking about the fact that like you can be

07:20:06.360 together with a person for an extended period of time and we're saying like 10 15 years we'll say

07:20:11.800 that for example but you never legally went to the courthouse and filled out paperwork and filled out

07:20:18.280 a marriage license and signed all the paperwork and everything like that and you can have a successful

07:20:23.800 relationship without doing that really quick david sends in the super chat never fly united united

07:20:29.720 airlines got back from stanley cup game to canada tuned in now never get married if you have money if

07:20:36.040 if you meant to be you will be now that was beautiful though some poetry there uh okay fine

07:20:41.000 we're gonna let these last few chats come in then we're gonna get this wrapped up correction

07:20:46.600 jay jayekin donated 19 dollars oh we read all the super chats back then yes brian you're right i meant

07:20:52.920 super chats not tts forgive me i'm old as dirt felicity what's your popsicle count lol it was four today 0.94

07:21:03.080 damn putting up some numbers okay mr base mr basement donated 20 dollars brian's so fat 0.85

07:21:10.920 i gotta lose some weight boys it is what it is the earthquake knocks over my drink and i'm on the east 0.99

07:21:16.760 coast your weight has become a burden to more than just your chair the lori lori that's mean

07:21:24.040 oh oh my god where's the where's the crying tears like that's terrible

07:21:27.560 guys i can't we can that can't be my going out one more send in something nice send send one in

07:21:40.760 one nice one send it in i can't let that be the last one uh what's that that's about how many

07:21:48.520 oh mary's gonna send one oh that's so very nice of mary thank you very much all right uh here i'm

07:21:53.160 gonna do the okay by the way nobody here does of right nobody has anybody here like done in the

07:21:59.640 past no okay that's another whatever w no of yeah i thought warren came here he was like i really

07:22:08.200 hope he saw felicity he's like god what did he stop these should i shut hey hey you're better

07:22:16.600 all right uh so i don't need to do any call to actions to propose that yeah uh i want to say gg

07:22:25.720 well played well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you

07:22:31.960 guys for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me

07:22:37.320 on warren's birthday happy birthday man happy birthday um thank you to everyone who so generously

07:22:44.840 super chats uh donates i'll get it pulled in a sec uh and supports the show thank you guys you guys

07:22:51.560 are uh you know we're viewer supported we don't really we don't ever really do any sponsorships

07:22:57.880 half our shit gets uh like demonetized or whatever so um really appreciate all the support we are

07:23:03.480 viewer supported we will be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific wait uh yeah i got a good show next 0.97

07:23:09.720 sunday uh 5 p.m pacific sunday any girls who want to be on the show you can dm out whatever on instagram

07:23:14.280 if you can make it to santa barbara let me let these final chats come through 20 tts letting

07:23:19.320 these final ones come through then we're going to get this wrapped up get everybody home one sec guys

07:23:24.680 one sec uh here let me just do it here snap more donated 19 dollars brixton loves burrito in the bum bum 0.68

07:23:34.440 not what i was really hoping for but okay uh we have mary oh i should have played this one last

07:23:43.880 mary donated 20 dollars brian you are an icon doing god's work thank you mary appreciate it

07:23:50.680 thank you thank you very much she snorted back there i was just gonna say did a little oink 1.00

07:23:58.520 uh based thor donated 20 dollars taylor drift doesn't remove her makeup cause if she goes back

07:24:05.320 to jail she want to make sure she looks good for her mug shots oh when you're driving home if you get 1.00

07:24:11.160 pulled over let's pull play that video final thing uh let's put uh in the discord that i had a cop or

07:24:17.000 something or what i hit a cop and we'll do video tab for this one with your final thing this is the

07:24:24.280 send off like a poll like you know uh it's wall of whatever in the discord oh my god don't worry

07:24:32.200 yeah video tab and then it was a year ago pull discord uh like three days oh my god let me hide

07:24:39.080 a weekend this all right our very own our very own taylor drift oh no this 18 year old girl from 0.85

07:24:47.960 ventura county driving an infinity g37 my car is fixed by the way a deadly weapon was chased by cops at

07:24:54.360 over 100 miles per hour after also crashing into cops before being taken into custody by cops in a dead

07:25:00.120 end after she took a wrong turn in a pursuit that ironically started as a that's what you did to

07:25:05.000 the cop car shut up notified of a pursuit coming into the ventura area from santa barbara county just

07:25:10.120 and a bar you don't find the driver at the wheel is alleged to be felicity hughes of cam oh 0.98

07:25:15.160 shit freeway went towards auto drive oh shit my car taylor drift she then made a u-turn and hit 1.00

07:25:22.600 the gas before striking a patrol vehicle you know what i have dash cam footage as well oh can we get the 0.99

07:25:28.680 truth i'll send it to you it's short you seem pretty calm no i don't do any of that

07:25:35.960 i was just were you like were you just 50 000 i'm not saying how fast i was going

07:25:42.680 uh you can uh yeah allegedly they clocked me at 115 but um that's just what happened i didn't want to

07:25:51.240 pull over okay you seemed pretty relaxed yeah you were very very calm i will tell you that

07:25:59.560 the cops liked me they let me chill in their cafeteria uncuffed and we just chatted up they

07:26:07.240 were they were asking me questions and they started asking me like what i want to do with my career and

07:26:11.480 stuff and like random they were like you're young what do you want to do with your life oh they're

07:26:17.320 oh okay just like random stuff like asked me about like my family life but like when they were when you

07:26:23.560 were uh being escorted with the handcuffs on you seemed kind of like i feel like a lot of girls are

07:26:30.600 going to be crying like oh my god no you're you seem pretty i wasn't crying there's a mug shot i still

07:26:37.080 need to get it i wasn't crying in my mug shot either and people say because i'm a girl same

07:26:41.960 thing has happened to tons of guys that i know and same thing happened to them they didn't they

07:26:46.360 were only in there for three days charges dropped so i don't want to see any comments you guys about

07:26:51.800 female privilege because it happens to guys how long were you in there three days three days 1.00

07:26:56.680 three days yes all right final two chats then we're justin martin's donated 20 yo justin thank you

07:27:02.920 burrito boy is a heathen no sense in marriage until he finds his faith good seeing you on warren

07:27:09.160 i enjoy your videos yo justin thank you so much man appreciate it all right this should be the

07:27:14.920 final chat 20 dollars thank you man pop brixton is a great guy he looks great too he probably works

07:27:22.120 out a lot oh he also hires ex-cons beautiful hey i believe in second chance restorative justice

07:27:30.840 i've been here for like three months um all right guys uh let me just double check make sure we're

07:27:36.920 all good i'm pretty sure that's it okay guys thank you so much for tuning in thank you again to the

07:27:41.160 wonderful panel it was a good show you guys were dope thank you guys for coming on oh sevens in the

07:27:46.680 chat oh sevens in the chat uh i hope you guys have a good night and we will see you guys next time good night

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Whatever Podcast - June 09, 2025

Warren Smith! Is Chivalry DEAD？! Age Gap HYPOCRISY (She Is 32, Boyfriend Is 24)？! BASED Alina RETURNS! ｜ Dating Talk #246

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